when the levy breaks: summer transfer window 2019

its on

sky sports news understands nothing

nothing

Heh, I was gonna go for the same title

im not sure that ndombele is a very rafa signing so please god ta fuck its enough to keep poch holding daniels hand in the street

I'm happy with our Championship winger

and Championship manager

last good around the same year iirc

Manchester United have reached an agreement with Crystal Palace to sign Aaron Wan-Bissaka.

More: https://t.co/sjQTOZ2bpc#bbcfootball #MUFC #CPFC pic.twitter.com/E8VFOIawtX

— BBC Sport (@BBCSport) June 26, 2019

Young is still going to be first choice isn't he

lol Packy Bonner on the Arsenal:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48732772

I have to say, and no doubt time will make a fool of me, but Utd's signings so far this summer haven't convinced me that top 6 is an unattainable dream for us lesser clubs

AWB is a brilliant signing imo. Best one on one defender in the league

Bit more business to do for sure though

AWB was nailed on to go to Utd for a chunk of change since November I'd say. A very obvious coincidence of needs for the player and the two clubs I reckon.

Packie Bonner's comments on Tierney are indicative of how hard it's going to be for anyone from the Premier League to sign players from much less wealthy leagues. Why should Celtic a first team player with a contract to an English club for anything less than £25m?

awb is a very good signing id love to be calling him a useless cunt for us next season

It's not so much AWB as let's say the rebuild necessary and the money already spent

not that i would put United as the likeliest target to overtake for teams looking to finish 6th.

If the transfer ban is upheld I'd imagine Chelsea will be the team to beat

Looking at them yeah

theres a lot of fat in that squad and i know just the man

Official and confirmed: Joao Felix is new Atlético Madrid player, here we go! €126M to Benfica, deal done 🔴⚪️ #JoaoFelix #transfers #Atléti #AtleticoMadrid

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) June 26, 2019

Juventus have found an agreement with Matthijs de Ligt. He’s ready to accept a contract until 2024 for €12M/season. Raiola also wants a release clause in the agreement. Now Juventus will start official talks with… https://t.co/Bvpq5oIV5h

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) June 26, 2019

Inter will propose loaning Lukaku for two seasons for a £9m fee with an obligation to buy at the end of it for £53.7m for a total package worth £62.7m. Selling Icardi proving difficult so far so Inter exploring an alternative proposal for Lukaku #mufc https://t.co/R4RqkAk1YW

— James Ducker (@TelegraphDucker) June 27, 2019

Perhaps TWP could come back

Take a bow, @WayneRooney! You are ridiculous. 😱 pic.twitter.com/On1oDnp8dX

— Major League Soccer (@MLS) June 27, 2019

or maybe Utd should switch to MLS

yes better

all that clip is missing is a rolex and a skip, embarrassing

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48782683

I've just checked and they currently have 32 players out on loan, which is likely to mitigate the transfer ban a bit. Abraham, Mount, etc, are likely to come back, i guess.

It's friggin' Charlie Adam, what do you expect him to say?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48780865

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/lee-bowyer-renews-attack-rangers-17264372

lee bowyer took the absolute piss out of rangers and Scottish football by saying their latest signing mr gummy sweets would have made a wiser career move going to brentford, then he completely owned himself by complementing the grunting semi-sentient troglodyte gerrard.

It sounds like the Ndombele deal is a long way from being done.

the fuck time of the morning is this to wake me for that

He was at Spurs' training ground yesterday so I'm quietly confident.

But, you know, Spurs

At the Spurs' training ground looking at houses.

willian scars run deep yet

Milan banned from the Europa League for FFP violations. Do Man City next.

lol

BREAKING: Arsenal have today bid £40million for Crystal Palace winger Wilfried Zaha, Sky Sports News understands

— Sky Sports News (@SkySportsNews) July 1, 2019

lol

should cost more for a whole mid to lower table prem team :p

the fuckin state of that bid

i no longer know how much footballers should cost but palace have fuckin gotten into the premiership at the right fuckin time

United have apparently bid £34m for Bruno Fernandes, which is likely to be as successful as the Zaha offer.

Barcelona have supposedly put up £100m for Lautaro Martinez, scorer of six Serie A goals last season (who does look an excellent prospect tbf).

there's a story floating around that Fernandes had a clause inserted in his contract that if Sporting turn down any offer above €35m, they have to pay him €5m

no idea of its veracity, but it seems weirdly specific

I saw that and couldnt tell if it was yknow every time or what

I preferred the ceefax/teletext days of reading about summer transfer rumours, the mountain of worthless shit on newsnow is just too much to filter.

i solve it by not believing a fucking word until i see somebody turn up for a team's first fixture

I solve it by reading about summer transfer rumours on teletext.

the last time we signed someone there wasnt any other option tbf

AS understand Tottenham Hotspur have agreed a loan deal to sign Real Madrid midfielder Dani Ceballos with the two clubs 'optimistic' on completing the move. #THFC pic.twitter.com/oPkCklpBSq

— Talking THFC (@TalkingTHFC) July 2, 2019

Oh and Utd have bid £70m for Harry Maguire

oof

wouldnt get in Ireland team

ceballos hardly come to us in good attitude imo

loan tho. hmmph.

ndombellllllleeeeeeee

goodbye Helder Costa, i for one will miss you ;_;

Leeds 😅

he deserved better but i'm sure he'll enjoy working for Bielsa

spanish media (fwtw) claim mpappe transfer request

mpappe roach

Man city sign Rodri for 62m making him the second most expensive Welshman ever

false giggs economy

26.5m for tyrone mings

No seriously

some pissed up druggy from the local park who can still pass a beep test and kick a ball is worth at least 50 grand these days.

Maybe Villa thought they were buying an ancient dynastic vase and were sent a footballer instead.

lool!

he's the quality of player mick mccarthy would have got for a few hundred grand and a bag of cones and balls 10 years back!

and then never play him cos he didn't run enough laps of the pitch one day in training

"Played 23 times in 4 years"

If Villa were actually interested in Kongolo as reported, then seriously he is literately a £50 million player at least at this valuation of talent.

26.5m for tyrone mings

No seriously

LOL, insanity.

it's probably really 18m and loads of silly extras of which most won't ever be paid, but still absolute insanity.

https://pics.me.me/the-man-who-does-more-than-he-is-paid-for-2354123.png

A meme from the instagram account of one of our players who has made 7 appearances in 2 and a half years and done next to fuck all!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bc/ca/08/bcca0825ecb4652f0e468d413ab42ef0.jpg

at least he followed it up with something also suitably sibylline and enigmatic tbf!

at the risk of exposing myself to the ridicule of the masses...

Tyrone Mings was fucking fantastic for us in the second half of last season and was a massive factor in that ridiculous winning streak that took us from mid-table into the playoffs. he is a total fan fave already and i'm glad we've got him on a permanent deal. i mean probably we are massively overpaying but when Man Utd are talking about spending 70m on Harry Maguire or whatever the figure is being quoted atm i don't really care, what even is money

Do you rate Tuanzebe, Windsor?

Tyrone is a Big Character. He is steadfastly, unwaveringly Up For It. He Loves It.

He'll probably also be picking up some straight reds for abysmal last ditch interventions during 6-0 defeats to ooh, most of the top 8

I think Villa will go back down, because they have to pretty much buy a new team, and they seem to be taking lots of punts on unproven players to facilitate it. Maybe they'll sign loads of players with Premier League experience later in the window idk, but dropping 20mil on Tyrone doesn't suggest they're on some ultra-patient 5d chess bargain hunting

The Guardian piece on Maguire today seemed pretty OTM, you can imagine a Guardiola or a Klopp or a Poch turning him into a real £70m player but the idea of Solskjaer doing that?

aside from it defeating the purpose to pay 70m for a player you have to then turn into a 70m player

Has Pep improved Stones’ defending? Has Poch improved anyone’s defending? Idk.

Maguire has been consistently good enough over the last two years to suggest he doesn’t need to get that much better to be a regular starter in a top 4 defence. £70m seems about the going rate. West Ham are valuing Issa Diop at £5m more.

£70m seems about the going rate.

For the English market, yes. For anyone outside it seems bonkers. Hell, Juve and Ajax are still bickering about De Ligt (for somewhere between 55-70m, in euros iirc). Maguire going for £70m is insane all over the world, except in England. I get why, up to a degree (file under: homegrown etc). Just wondering how many Tyrone Mings and Maguires it takes till England corrects, or is forced to correct, this hyperinflation. Not anytime soon, not with this tv dough, I reckon.

a 19-year-old with one season under his belt just went for €126m

it's mental all over

poch improved walker and vertonghen defensively

You know the market is as it should be when you see Feyenoord signing one Liam Kelly from Reading on a free and hailing him like the second coming of the lord jesus christ tbf

On topic: I don't understand why ManC or Liverpool or ManU hesitate to fork out 100m for De Ligt, when they seem all to keen to waste their money on filler like Stones and Maguire etc.

xp Poch arguably improved Vertongen, but not defensively imo

well he'd have to want to go there in the first place

De Ligt is proving he's the anti Frenkie 'Barca has always been my dream club so I'm going there' de Jong. He's about the money, coupled with a club w/ some prospects, true. So that rules out ManU. ManC and Liverpool still very much asleep imo.

seems like an unnecessary extravagance for Liverpool

City, I guess, but they can't spend 50m+ on a centre back every season

Liverpool's defence could be immense with a Van Dijk/De Ligt center, and relegate trash like Lovre/Gomez/Matip to the bench. I don't think that's too extravagant. For City, perhaps.

Gomez was great first half of the season and matip was excellent in the second half of the season so this 'trash' talk is hysterical nonsense.

yeh thought gomez looked promising

Calling Gomez trash is just rude and ignorant. And Matip was superb when he stepped in, really upped his game. He was the equal of Virgil in several games

lol howay the fucking Magpies on suicide watch when Brucey is announced!

yeah wtf Gomez and Matip are not trash. ridiculous statment.

FWIW I think Pep has improved even Stones although not anywhere near to the level he should be. FWIW Maguire is already better than Stones ever was but is likely to be brutally exposed with a United midfield that's starting to look like it'll be very short of anyone that can tackle.

our midfield as it stands (and minus, presumably, Pogba) is laughably poor in every respect

Really quite excited at the idea of Newcastle replacing Rafa with Steve Bruce. Has any other club managed to collect all four of McClaren, Allardyce, Bruce and Pards?

Maguire is much better than his detractors claim. Newcastle is lol.

Bit o' hyperbole, be cool lads.

all good

is trippier even gonna start this season? i've somehow ended up with him in our draft we've got going

There have been rumours for months he's going to Napoli. The lure of playing alongside Vlad Chiriches must be strong.

thats a rumour that time and repetition have made no less bizarre

hes our best rb, if we need two new rbs (we do) then ive not seen solid links to them yet

because historically this is how your owner thinks

ive not seen that lately tbh.

getting rid of trippier for 30m is good half-business

maybe poch thinks its kwps turn to become ok, maybe trippier was just that wrecked from wc

surely aurier is first out the door after fuckery on-off pitch and wages

Toby to Roma with Zaniolo coming the other way?

been touted for a week now, but:

- swap deals never happen

- why would he go there

yeah Rome is awful compared to North London

we can only presume his last chance at a big contract decision will rest upon the quality of piazza available yes

I'm just saying it's imaginable that someone might choose to do a thing for reasons other than the bottom line, dude.

villa after trezeguet too

never heard of the team he plays for

xp not to be testy tim but yr response practically sighed and blew its hair out of its eyes tbh- the question wasnt thrown out there as a parochial slur on anywhere

'there' is roma the club, we can obv build in the quality of life factors (weather aside, are they so different for an athlete multimillionaire celebrity between london and rome? who knows?).

is roma the club a step up? id have said not, history and all that say its level at present.

is the salary on offer (after tax and all whatnot) at roma now (inc years offered) going to beat any spurs offer (likely, likely) as well as any other offer coming in (id really have thought not)

and then the old "am i in the right place now, is the risk of a move a factor"

theres a ton of places id have thought were obvious better options on a range of relevant items....idk do spurs fans overrate him or what but id have him walking into pretty much any first xi in the world, and 30 isnt any age for a centre back without any real history of injuries.

its a curious one, is all. maybe hes decided already to run down the last year?

All of which does beg the question: why on earth are Spurs considering letting him go?

It's not long before the £25m release clause in Toby's contract expires. Given his age and the fact he has one more year on his contract it's unlikely that, great as he is, he'll be worth much more than that. So I guess Levy is desperate to offload him.

The alternative is he signs a new contract, which I personally would love, but that's the likely end of any major resale value.

Vertonghen has been the better CB over the last couple of seasons but Toby's playmaking abilities and long passing ability from CB are a really underappreciated aspect of the way the team plays. There aren't many CBs who can do that.

He's technically good enough, not to mention smart enough to have at least 4 more years in him (arbitrary figure, probably) - that's the value, innit? Strikes me there aren't many of Toby's quality around so unless he's agitating for a move, you do everything you can to keep him?

Or what Matt said.

yeah pref to resign him on decent money, imagine that the length of contract is the major prob.

pref after that is another year out of him at current salary. 25m isnt that much to forego for the calibre of player in it, and if nothing else it reinforces levys hardman ego

xxp I'm feeling untestily Fridayish, even in the face of unwarranted and hurtful hair jibes directed at one of ILx's baldest men.

'there' can be Roma the club if you like but 'there' is also unavoidably Roma the city, and Italy the country, right? Also Italy the footballing culture. I understand the requirement for close reading of your communiques but insisting on only one of these 'there's as a subject for your speculation is a bit bleedin' rich I'd say.

There are only a few reasons why a football club would want to retain the services of a player but there are loads of reasons why an individual might want to make a move, even a sideways move. I mean, we can play a game of imagining personal motivations if you like?

ill put my scantily clad pate up against any non-finn here tbh

Promises, promises.

I'll out-bald you pretenders all day, any day.

Wondering if the 'sideways' comment is acceptable to Tottenham ILXspurs fans.

anyway, if i ought to clarify that the *why there* carried the unspoken *instead of * of ~all of the supposed options~ and not just stayin at spurs then im happy to do so.

like imagining personal motivations is p much baked in to what we are discussing but its very hard to not imagine madrid, barca, juve and a host of others not offering a better overall package from cafes to dusky evening sunlight year-round but being an obviously more appealing destination career wise.

utd or city for cash while stayin in england if for family reasons or whatever thats a concern

ajax for sentiment

i stand by the confusion over roma being:

- especially appealing to him as an option

but more, i suppose

- being the best offer he has, that we know of

Wondering if the 'sideways' comment is acceptable to Tottenham ILXspurs fans.

― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Friday, 12 July 2019 14:16 (twenty-eight seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

i for one am enjoying even the opportunity for such magnanimity tbh, its lovely up here

My "sideways" was a ref to deems's "history and all that say its level at present" fwiw. I try not to get into "which club's bigger" anymore because I can't make sense of the arguments involved; was happy to rely on the opinion of a hairy expert.

* trying desperately not to make a comment about Exeter City *

anyways spending even five mins imagining such a dilemma has put me in right good form tbh

now pondering a transfer-column style breathless reporting of rumours linking me with a move to the office of public works

"he likes their style of operating, but the location on the southside could be an issue for him, we hear"

"the salary package is fine, but the departments are wrangling over the final details and hes asked for a window desk which will upset a number of long-serving incumbents"

two bald men fighting over a rome at this stage

"there was a fall-out in the weekly team meeting in which two cups of coffee were spilled"

xp haha

griezemann to barca is done?

Apparently, which makes Neymar seem far more unlikely to me but fuck it, small club mentality

BREAKING - #AtleticoMadrid confirm they are taking #FCBarcelona to court on signing of Antoine Griezmann, they believe they are entitled to an extra €80m https://t.co/3LtlBZBggO pic.twitter.com/168zwRkjPb

— footballespana (@footballespana_) July 12, 2019

Juventus 'complete £63m deal for Ajax star Matthijs de Ligt' https://t.co/An6xS6tS3d

— MailOnline Sport (@MailSport) July 12, 2019

Bruno Génésio is currently in England for talks to become Newcastle manager on a 4-year contract.

(Source: Le Progrès) pic.twitter.com/ruyRPMTEkJ

— Transferchanger (@TransferChanger) July 16, 2019

Sensible to pick a manager with strong experience of being hated by his own supporters and, on occasion, players.

So is Steve Bruce standing outside St James's Park with a suitcase having told his wife he's leaving her?

shes turned the toons agin me

Trippier to Atletico Madrid looks like a done deal as well.

yes saw that

you see it being backfilled by aurier/kwp/~~foyth~~ or dyou think theyd like a good right back

My understanding is that Aurier is up for sale as well. I like KWP but it still feels too early for him, Foyth should be nowhere near the team.

So yeah I'm guessing we're buying one. RB and central midfield were our main problem positions last year.

of the two id have trippier ahead of aurier certainly, even before wages

Weird one, Trippier doesn't seem near the level ATM aspire. Who'll be his replacement?

depends on whether you think last season was purely post-russia groin strain induced

i mean what even is a good full back now? theyre all shit afaict.

Fair point. Trippier's not better than Arias though, so not sure why they'd go for Trip.

I feel like it's easy to assume that under performance in the Prem won't define your ability in other top flight Euro leagues

Given that "under" is a question of perception in any context, D

also think that full back is a position pochs tactic asks so much of that the difference between "walker is now worth 55m"(when 55m was a lot) and "how can this fool who started the cl final possibly move to a big club" is really marginal.

its a horribly exposed position with huge asks in both attack and defence and if you make a slip our centres and goalie havent been great at covering, but facts is that trippier has had a year of slips and as a result his stock is probably undeservedly low.

still kinda impressed at the move. fair play to him.

tbf every manager on earth's tactics ask so much of a full back. it's a brutal position and you can't do it right really.

and of course, fair play to him.

Rooon locked in a helpless reverie right now

:D

I hear that Andy Robertson guy is not shit.

Though he might be if played for Spurs, of course.

lfc have two crackers for sure but they have a good gk

The other big difference between World Cup Trippier and last season's Trippier is that England played in a back five with Walker there to cover for him.

Trippier's main assets are the quality and accuracy of his cross and his ability with a dead ball and as an old fashioned English winger he might have worked well but high level teams don't play with them any more.

For a while it looked like Poch intended to go with a back five but without Dembele our squad lacked the really commanding midfielder who can protect them.

Probably the best analogue is the role Victor Moses played under Conte. No one thought Moses was a world class right back but he did exceptionally well in a team where everyone knew their role and they never needed to rotate. Moses could go forward because he had two (at the time) excellent recovery defenders in Azpilicueta and Cahill and an erratic but talented one in David Luiz whose mistakes they could also cover for. They also had probably the world's best defensive midfielder in Kante and we haven't come close to finding a player like that. On the other side Marcos Alonso also had an amazing season and hasn't played quite as consistently well as that since.

The closest parallel to that excellent recovery defender in the Spurs squad is Sanchez who has also the pace and ability but is still cutting out his own mistakes. Better to trade up for a proper well rounded right back rather than wait for Sanchez to progress to the level when he can reliably bail Trippier out.

Bruce appointed at Newcastle after all. Rondon sounds like he's off to Dalian and Perez has already gone to Leicester. Joselu has also left. I think that leaves Gayle as their only striker.

Great, a season of Bruce's earnest regretful whinging, "You don't like to be critical, they've got a hard job to do, but...". When I say 'season' I mean until he's sacked, of course.

amazing stuff

Tbf he's got an excellent track record in the Champo

I think that leaves Gayle as their only striker.

Yoshinori Muto is still there iirc.

Bruce couldn't have happened to a nicer club tbf.

My theory is that Bruce's championship record is inflated somewhat by him usually going where a decent amount of bunce is being chucked about and then leaving/getting sacked when it's gone. This pattern started when he fucked off the blades for tinpot Hudds just as we'd been bought out by a wealthy benefactor. I'll never believe he's even a half decent manager.

rondon already gone i thought
gayles going to stoke too isnt he?

as long as Rondon goes anywhere other than the Wolves i'm happy

3-0 to the Wanderers

matt 100% re trippier

the newcastle disaster of 2020 is so inevitable and reliably predictable at every juncture that it will be like watching it on replay as it happens, déjà tun

BruceOut# trending much faster than our nauseating bookie kit sponsor's attempt at lame advertising bantz, literally within minutes of him being unveiled.

are the saying boooooooo or broooooooceouuut

West Ham pay 45m for Sebastian Haller o_O

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/15/west-ham-sebastian-heller-eintracht-frankfurt-transfer-window

He was really good last season but idk how much of that was down to the Jovic / Rebic / Haller partnership.

I know him from his spell at Utrecht, during which he was already impressive. Hate to see a quality player like that end up at WHU.

They have made two good signings this summer and appear to be doing an anti-Newcastle which is disappointing behaviour from the Premier League's second best comedy club.

tbf, Anderson / Diop / Yarmalenko was a good summer for them last year too.

I think people are being harsh on Steve Bruce. He'll have a good chunk of the summer to make his mark on the team, assess the gaps in the squad and then spend the entire transfer budget on Yannick Bolasie on deadline day or whatever

bolasie come home

Xp irl lol Sgt

LOL I'd forgotten Bruce had been Sunderland manager. How many games do we think he'll last?

You're forgiven for forgetting that, as it's just one of the many, many reasons those poor toon fans are up in arms.

Wiki taught me chairman Mike Ashley - who wouldn't open his wallet if he had a gun to his head - "stated that he regretted buying Newcastle United, but admitted that he was "wedded" to the club." Lmao.

Bruce will be there all season, or at least won't be fired until March when it's too late for his successor to do anything about it.

Great season to be a newly promoted club, Newcastle look doomed already and Brighton don't appear to be in great shape either.

I hadn’t realised Llorente is out of contract. Fiorentina would probably be a good move for him.

twould be a good move for any of us ifaith

It was tough to settle initially, there's a language and food barrier

Wolves U-23 Ed Francis on the alien food culture of, um, the Netherlands.

Have a heart NV, I see they had him parked at Almere. Wouldn't wish that city on my worst enemy.

I'm guessing it doesn't have a Nando's

food is v bland ime tbf, like fried egg on plain pasta bland

A shocking experience for Cheshire-born Ed

lol

Netherlands is right up there for worst "national cuisine" in Europe

theyll have their fun wont they NN

hard times when two paddies have to defend british isles cuisine against the self loathing brits wha

My initial point, sir, is that the cultural difference could hardly be described as a "barrier"

not til october anyways

no need to worry about the food barrier if you're not allowed to play in Europe tbf

First trophy of the season

big Xi is wearing a Wolves top now!

still hasn't quite got the cachet of the JPT tho :p

Vincent Janssen off to my favourite Liga MX club, Monterrey!

sympathies

at what stage is zidane a workplace bully

Really don't understand what's going on here at all.

It's gonna be really disappointing when he just turns up at PSG and his career completely fizzles out from there.

i can see it as an utterly ruthless "its a lot better for me that you not be here" set of power moves.

beckham was iirc treated much the same by capello so obv at rm theres a cultural thing that possibly british players might be missing where the fuck-off-hints are expected to yield results far earlier in the process and tetchiness ensues

Did the same with mcmanaman he ignored it as well and picked up another la Liga and champs lge before seeing out his contract iirc

WHAT A GOAL FROM HARRY KANE 🔥
pic.twitter.com/HRhTqqaEiQ

— talkSPORT (@talkSPORT) July 21, 2019

Niche interest but as someone who watched an enormous amount of Australian football last season, for lack of anything better to do on a Saturday morning, it’s good to see Sarpreet Singh get picked up by Bayern Munich.

He’s one of the best passers of the ball in the league, albeit with next to no competition, but it’s difficult to judge how useful he would be to a decent team. It’ll be interesting to see how he develops in Germany over the next couple of years.

Biggest NZ transfer in history, surely? Had never heard of him before but am keen on seeing him play.

£17m for Phil Billing from Bournemouth will be astonishingly good good business. And I like the idea of such a tinpot player as him going to such a tinpot shit ground no fans club. He puts in a couple of 8/10 shifts and scores a pretty amazing goal tbf then starts thinking he's a superstar who should be at Barca. He's a total diva who downed tools and spat his dummy out when the going got tough. It probably didn't help with one of our morons calling him a "black donkey" on twitter, but he's still a total waster and probably no more than a few mill worth of midfielder at best.

if he doesn't get his move in this window he'll end up playing with the reserves, so the pressure is all on him.

We are delighted to welcome our new club record signing - Joelinton!

Full story: https://t.co/t7Qe83xUnX #JoelinToon #NUFC pic.twitter.com/wmzjHbkJxE

— Newcastle United FC (@NUFC) July 23, 2019

40m, reportedly. That is a lot of money.

Disaster waiting to happen or what?

don't know if we were genuinely interested or just getting linked to every player on the market this season. lol at Bruce with a 40 mil striker tho

jolyon ton

keeping up the proud tradition of brazilian footballers exchanging their perfectly nice real names for unholy monstrosities

Had the same goals per game ratio as James Ward-Prowse last season but maybe he is worth £40m too now.

We have reached agreement with Mexican side C.F. Monterrey for the transfer of @vincentjanssen.

We wish Vincent all the best for the future.

— Tottenham Hotspur (@SpursOfficial) July 23, 2019

(xp) His scoring record doesn't suggest the new Alan Shearer.

goodbye sweet vince

lots of buzz around ISP providers being encouraged to crack down a lot harder on streams this coming season.

reason to be fearful or unlikely to be effective?

id pay except they dont offer a package to just watch one team so absolutely fuck em

Unlikely to be effective. If you've been following the footy w/ streams for years I don't see how that would suddenly change now. Alternatives will pop up (no pun intended), there will always be streamers in it for a couple of hundred quid a month on ad sales.

I've basically given up on streams, it just isn't worth it for the extreme unreliability and virtually guaranteed malware.

unless ive been living happily with malware all year ive somehow avoided that tbh.

have you just not been watching or is there a non-stream solution you're being discreet about

I've just been paying and tbh most Spurs games have been screened anyway.

Sky reporting that a deal for Cutrone is close now so I'll start to take it a llttle more seriously even tho apparently he really really doesn't want to come.

wtf is that young utd lad trying to take home the goat's leg? a souvenir?

Liverpool FC have submitted a bid to trademark the word 'Liverpool'

oh fuck off

LOL let's here the Scousers justify that.

Nicholas Pépé to Arsenal for £72m seems like it’s going to happen.

Villa at full strength today, bringing a cannon to a swordfight

Jesus

Lille were so fun to watch last season so a bit sad to see them splitting up but inevitable I guess. Pepe was v good indeed last season. Weird also to see fakir going from lyon so cheaply even with his slight drop off in form would have liked to see him at LFC playing in a midfield 3 in those games when the opposition is in ten men behind the ball mode.

Arsenal fans will be very saddened by the news that Ryan Shawcross has broke his leg in the last pre-season fixture.

So sadddd

Patrick Cutrone to Wolverhampton, confirmed! Paperworks time with AC Milan and medicals soon for €18M + add ons (around €4M). Total agreement reached. 🐺 #Wolves #transfers #Milan

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) July 28, 2019

Real Madrid president Florentino Perez has blocked Gareth Bale's move to China as he believes the Welshman is too valuable a player to let go on the cheap, according to The Telegraph 💰 pic.twitter.com/mggZF4fvO9

— Goal (@goal) July 28, 2019

...Bale has negative value at this point

I will exhale on Cutrone once he's here and wearing a Wolves shirt. H hasn't exactly been angling for a move away from Milan even tho both clubs want it. Intrigued anyway, he's unlikely to be a starter from the beginning of the season so there is a little less pressure on him and time for him to settle in.

34 league appearance last season, 3 goals?

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that a lot of those were substitute appearances.

Yeah I don't think he was a regular starter last season but that's a bit chicken and egg as far as goals are concerned. Given his age and the fact that he isn't an immediate first 11 purchase I'll trust Nuno's judgement for now.

@goal

Real Madrid president Florentino Perez has blocked Gareth Bale's move to China as he believes the Welshman is too valuable a player to let go on the cheap, according to The Telegraph 💰
2:35 PM - Jul 28, 2019

Is that... Comic Sans?

yeah they've had that font for years now

Must've forgotten that I knew that *shrugs*

Quiet transfer period so far, EPL wise, with one of the top bbc stories today about a possible return of Adebayor!

Not Comic Sans though - the cross-bar on the A is too steep and goes outside the right-hand downstroke. Whatever font that is is worse than Comic Sans IMO.

BREAKING NEWS

Phil Billing has completed his medical at Bournemouth today, without managing to get injured or falling out with the medical staff. £15m fee agreed.

Here's the Real Madrid font, it's not actually Comic Sans but some are seeing a resemblance. Certainly different. pic.twitter.com/gtUrEMdbDm

— AS English (@English_AS) June 27, 2013

Seems they have a new font every year. This was the Bale 12/13 font.

/quality research during work hours ilx-post

its pretty funny that the Chinese team wanted Bale on a free.

tbf, they'd save Real Madrid about £85m in wages if he's not sitting on their bench for the next three years.

As I said above, due to his wages he essentially has negative value

They were doing Real a favour

oh yeah. that makes sense.

Moise Kean to Everton, here we go! Total agreement reached with Juventus, last details will be completed on next hours. The striker will fly to UK tomorrow to undergo his medicals and sign the contract. 🔵 #transfers #Everton #Juve

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) July 30, 2019

It's weird when Moise Kean seems like a fantastic coup but otoh it's up to £36m for a 19yo after a good season in Serie A. I don't even know anymore.

It’s an amazing deal. He looks like one of the most talented young strikers Italy has produced in years and the price is a relative steal imo. I am really surprised that Juve agreed to let him go without the €60m buyback clause.

Potentially shifting him and Dybala and keeping Ronaldo / Higuain looks really strange.

Yeah, a great deal. Everton doing well so far. Brands rarely disappoints.

For Juve though, SV otm. No idea why they're letting go of the younger hot prospects relatively easily.

Probably think they'll hate living in the UK and come back eventually after two or three lacklustre seasons.

They'll be trapped inside Boris's wall by then tho

Cutrone in confirmed :)

Congrats, big signore!

Aston Villa have signed Zimbabwe international midfielder Marvelous Nakamba for an undisclosed fee - their 12th signing of the summer.

MARVELOUS NAKAMBA.

£85m for Maguire then

oh, seems it's actually 80m. Bargain!

Nakamba has like three career goals, so there may be limited opportunities for Guy Mowbray to shout "now that WAS marvelous" in that uh inimitable tone he does, but you never know

Personally think Maguire is better than his worst detractors allow and there's always a premium on home grown-ness. Don't see how he doesn't improve Umited

oh he absolutely improves us

Shaw Maguire Lindelof AWB is more than decent

meanwhile, this Lukaku Dybala swap appears to actually be a thing. Weird

about time we had the new Prem thread altho it's not like i'm actually watching the Charunity Shield

lol and as if by magic

mignolet gone to brugges

meanwhile, this Lukaku Dybala swap appears to actually be a thing

Apparently not any more.

What kind of wages do you need to be demanding for the people who gave Alexis Sanchez half a million quid a week to say no?

maybe theyve learned

yeah i'm not bothered about missing out on Dybala in these circumstances

i'm pretty fucking concerned that we appear to be going into the season with significant reinforcements in midfield or attack though

our midfield options as it stands are fairly grim - Pogba, Matic, McTominay, Fred, Pereira

Seems like our Hirving Lozano is off to Napoli for around 40m. He's not been playing well recently, and we've got (younger) youngsters eager to fill in his position, still a bit sad to see him go though.

Malcom could be forced out of Zenit St Petersburg just days after £37m arrival from Barcelona as racist fans display banner rejecting black players in latest incident to shame Russian football https://t.co/p3CeN8VABr pic.twitter.com/Pjwe1ChQ38

— MailOnline Sport (@MailSport) August 5, 2019

Telegraph reporting that Wayne Rooney is in talks with Derby about a player-coach role

please god please

also there isn't a non-Prem thread for 19-20

eriksen to utd for 50m sounding more solid by the hour

surely Eriksen to Utd cannot be real. I expect him to have at least two more good years before cynically cashing in giving up all hope in life?

rumours our mad owner is considering selling our talismanic striker to brentford for no reason

even i would be burning shit to the ground

Today's Mirror:

"Bruno Fernandes agent 'holds fresh Man Utd transfer talks' ahead of £65m move"

"Bruno Fernandes 'agrees personal terms with Tottenham' to rival Man Utd transfer"

Somehow I don't think when Eriksen talked about a next chapter, chugging around the Europa League with Solskjaer as manager was quite what he had in mind.

It doesn’t sound like anyone better wants Eriksen. idk, it would be a huge shame to lose him but Lo Celso and Fernandes would both be an upgrade if he continues to play at 50% capacity for another year.

late af to be at any of this shit

very disappointing window given the shit poch has put up with the past two years.

meanwhile

Lukaku was due back at Carrington today... https://t.co/pDV563Wew3

— Paul Hirst (@hirstclass) August 6, 2019

thats stormzy

shut up

If no one better wants Eriksen I wouldn't be surprised to see him just sign a new contract.

Possible, but unlikely I'd say. Considering he can leave on a free next summer and e.g. Ramsey is now on 400k a week at Juve after doing the same

Tottenham Hotspur have made an offer to sign Philippe Coutinho on loan from Barcelona

Manchester United are attempting to sign Christian Eriksen@garyjacob and @hirstclass reporthttps://t.co/vDsFuv5BZZ

— Times Sport (@TimesSport) August 6, 2019

£21m loan fee :/

heard somewhere (second captains??) that coutinho's in retrospect Bad Choice to go to Barca was motivated in large part by significant pressure from nike?

wouldnt take the lads as gospel but the propensity for nike to influence that kind of thing would have come up before iirc

you following the gaa on the podcast, out of interest?

shut up

― Number None, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 12:30 (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

whats up your arse btw?

Excited for Arsenal going full Ossieball by playing Aubameyang, Lacazette, Coutinho and Pepe and no one at all in defence.

xp lol references

What is happening

Tottenham have agreed a €70m deal with Juventus to sign Paulo Dybala, according to Sky in Italy.

— Sky Sports News (@SkySportsNews) August 6, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQGUJK7Na4

apparently Utd had agreed a deal with Juve too, but it was Dybala's agent's demands/excessive wages/image rights/lack of desire to play for a shit team that scuppered things

Juve seem pretty desperate to shift him though

you following the gaa on the podcast, out of interest?

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Tuesday, August 6, 2019 12:27 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

can't really watch it anywhere, so nah

lol i was thinking tbh ty

xp that

gbx, watching the gaa is shit. listen to oisin tho hes great

If he can't get United to pay his wages good luck with Levy.

There seem to be four or five playmakers/wide forwards in play with no idea of where they'll end up.

we thought it would be poch having all the fun

its levy

hes in the sweet shop, shoving kids out the way

Manchester United are considering signing former #thfc striker Fernando Llorente on a free transfer. [Di Marzio]

— Hotspur Related (@HotspurRelated) August 6, 2019

Absolute scenes.

please, let's try and maintain some dignity in this thread over the next couple of days

love nando tho

throw that guy on the point of a crossing team every week hes def got a double figure season left in him

not sure thats utd under ole

Man Utd have called a halt to talks over potential transfer of Christian Eriksen because they think if he does leave Spurs, he would prefer move to Spain. Utd still in talks with other targets, although so close to deadline, chances of getting any deals done is not high.

— Simon Stone (@sistoney67) August 7, 2019

cool cool

as long as it doesnt stop us signing fernandes/dybala like

dybala to spurs is the only signing i'd be excited abt this window. it's a slow show so far.

dybala bit now

Crystal Palace have rejected a £70m bid from Everton for Wilfried Zaha plus James McCarthy (permanent) and Cenk Tosun on loan. Palace have said they want £100m for the Ivory Coast forward so "deal is dead" #efc #cpfc

— Ed Aarons (@ed_aarons) August 7, 2019

thats proper shutting it down tbf

I don't think there are many clubs where one player is the difference between staying up and relegation but that's definitely the case for Palace. I'd shut it down in that position as well.

best case scenario is he stays and gets a 9-month injury

they'll still stay up, we'll sell our best players for 2m, get relegated and never play them again

^^ wasn't gonna say it but

xp

Was gonna say earlier he's essentially priceless to Palace so

news here is Ajax refused two bids (50m, then later 60m) from ManU for David Neres fwiw

wouldn't give much credence to that

BREAKING: Wilfried Zaha has handed in a transfer request at Crystal Palace

— Sky Sports News (@SkySportsNews) August 7, 2019

that changes everything

Ok now we're cookin'

As per reports from France, I'm told David Luiz refused to train with Chelsea today and wants to move to Arsenal. I don't think Arsenal have made a formal bid yet

— Matt Law (@Matt_Law_DT) August 7, 2019

i dont think arsenal know yet

all this excitement has been nice but im reasonably certain that spurs finish tomorrow with lo celso and sessegnon in and eriksen cryin on the bench for a few games

David Luiz to Arsenal would be one of those astonishing transfers that would somehow manage to make every single party worse off.

except agent

Sessegnon, Lo Celso and Ndombele would represent a very good summer's business tbh. Pretty sure we'll take Llorente back as well.

yeah i dont know what the idea behind all the messing the last week has been but those three and possibly a professional footballer at right back would have been a good wishlist.

idk about llorente, im not sure we use him and for my money troy parrott is ready for minutes.

not like llorente covers for kane injury anyway

Lukaku to Inter agreed

his touch was going that far anyways

So, we'll be going into the season having lost two senior midfielders and a striker without replacing any of them

Greenwood better be the TBWP

absolutely

Still a lot of nonsense banter about Al sorts of midfielders being on the move tbf

Wanayama, Khedira etc

believe that first one

derby will hardly loan us their new rb dye think

oh and I see Neres has signed a new contract. Shocker

Wanyama has a recurring knee injury, with which he's currently in the treatment room, and hasn't managed to string a proper run of games together in maybe two years. If he's going it's for something very nominal.

It's all agent/silly season bullshit but you end up living in fear until the window shuts

So, looks like Tierney is on his way to Arsenal after all. Bummer.

well theres no need for that tom

Apparently that full back Man Utd bought from Crystal Palace is twice as good as him.

apparently we have been sniffing around a troy parrott loan

plsss

oh fuck off

really want him to be a different but not llorente option for us this year ffs

Tottenham have this morning agreed a deal worth £25m for Ryan Sessegnon. @SamWallaceTel has the latest https://t.co/xLHEtqx73p pic.twitter.com/472alIAr0L

— Telegraph Football (@TeleFootball) August 8, 2019

Tottenham close to reaching agreement to sign Juventus forward Paulo Dybala. Deal not done but clubs hopeful. #THFC stepped up interest after their pursuit of Sporting Lisbon midfielder Bruno Fernandes ended over fee & Man Utd’s proposed move for Dybala was called off #JUVE #MUFC

— David Ornstein (@bbcsport_david) August 8, 2019

really dont see it tbh

No, it would be the most surprising signing since Klinsmann, and with significantly higher barriers.

The only way it would work would be if Levy's decided the current wage structure is unsustainable. Realistically, idk if Harry Kane is going to be happy earning exactly half as much per week as Aaron Ramsey, for the next six years.

Don't they have a ridiculous bonus system that means their real earnings are significantly higher than their weekly reported wage though?

I mean it seems implausible that they're going to get this far down the road and then go "oh, we didn't realise Dybala's wage demands were going to be so high" but who even knows. Maybe Levy is deluded enough to think he can boardroom hard man him into submission.

Or it was all a bluff to get Betis to fold on lo Celso, idk.

ive more concerns about him fitting tbh

weve moved up from salary caps and fees being a ceiling given progress and money saved the past few years

but cant see levy or poch chucking the bases for that progress out to start behaving in a way that has badly failed arsenal or utd recently

imo he'll go to utd now lukaku funds freed

Not a whisper of any business for us

Apart from dumping Rojo on Everton

Still time for Ollie to register himself

BREAKING: Tottenham’s proposed move for Paulo Dybala is OFF after Juventus ultimately decided not to sell the 25-year-old Argentina forward #THFC #Juve

— David Ornstein (@bbcsport_david) August 8, 2019

Lol Dybala is cancelled

Ah beaten to the punch

bbc guy says that eriksen is on his way to carrington

do they even have a football team?

levy'd

eriksen surely leaves, whether utd today or a european outfit later matters not

but lo celso/ndombele in, eriksen/wanyama out is neither a disaster nor a huge leap forward, regardless that it'll be painted as both

Lo Celso and Ndombele are several years younger than either and Ndombele is almost certainly a major upgrade on any of our central midfielders. Sessegnon looks like it's happening as well although he's obviously a work in progress I'm confident in Poch to work his magic on him.

Twitter seems to think Sessegnon has hit problems.

Think I'm just going to turn the internet off until about half past five tonight.

Why would anyone want to go to Arsenal, igi, but really why would Luiz want to?

can we start arguing about this season's thread title now so it's ready for tomorrow? would propose "Your old car is completely reliable, but you want a new one and two weeks later it breaks down" but it's a bit much

Throwing "Steve Bruce is the rock on which Newcastle's free flowing football finally flounders" up for consideration, stumbled on it somewhere

just been reminded that Leon Clarke is technically a Premier League footballer at the moment

You must be Joachim: Liverpool will not compete for the Gibraltar Premier Division 2020

gah i've not been able to get this out of my head since hearing robyn in the co-op this morning, someone's going to have to fill in the blanks for me though:

paulo dybala / he's not the guy you're taking home / we'll just get _____ ____ on loan

thank god andy carroll doesn't scan

Looks like Sessegnon and Lo Celso are done.

I honestly couldn't tell you how good lo Celso is and i've probably seen him 15 times. I'm looking forward to seeing how he does, though.

Mooy and Maupay to Brighton is good business imo.

Sarr to Watford too.

Everton have agreed a deal to sign Arsenal and Nigeria winger Alex Iwobi for a fee in the region of £35-40m #EFC #AFC

— David Ornstein (@bbcsport_david) August 8, 2019

kieran tierney to arsenal confirmed :'-(

see ye in jan

lo Celso is a loan?

Loan w/ option to buy him for 55m next year

Which is a pretty sweet deal imo

different info on whether its an obligation or an option

Mooy isn't one of the wasters that downed tools last season but he's been a shadow of the player he was for a while. This funny business of getting him to sign a contract extension then loaning him to Brighton might backfire on us - if he has another dud season it might be hard to move him on when the club is thinking how much they could have got for him in this window. He must have agitated for the move because we just received £15m for Billing and are not under pressure to sell and the players all take 40% wage cuts with the relegation - or something like that is written into all their contracts. Proper tight northern bstads!

I think it's an obligation to buy Lo Celso unless we fail to qualify for Europe. In which case it becomes an option, and he won't want to take it.

wasnt benik afobe....good...recently enough?

Went to shit at Bournemouth when he realised he wasn't good enough for the Prem iirc

can we start arguing about this season's thread title now so it's ready for tomorrow? would propose "Your old car is completely reliable, but you want a new one and two weeks later it breaks down" but it's a bit much

― seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:39 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

fire it up, slackers liverpool is already up 3-0 and it's only been 30min

Lads, it's the Premier League thread - EPL 2019/20