Anyone Who's Good Enough For Middlesbrough Won't Be On Dis Ting: SPL 2010/11

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HE'S READY (to spend the year under the sunbed).

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

no better way to start the SPL topic than with cumbersome, third rate takes on its big brother's tricks.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:48 (fifteen years ago)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/48017000/jpg/_48017945_lennon_snsb466.jpg

HE'S READY (to realise St Mirren's ambition to finish in round about the same place as last year)

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48357000/jpg/_48357259_juarez_282i.jpg

HE'S READY (subject to a medical)

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

http://celticfcminded.footballunited.com/files/2010/05/Neil-Lennon-001.jpg

THEY'RE NOT IN THE SLIGHTEST BIT READY (but at least they're laughing about it)

ailsa, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:00 (fifteen years ago)

Morton are ready!

Ward Fowler, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:23 (fifteen years ago)

(im sure its only a matter of time before they're in the spl lol)

Ward Fowler, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:24 (fifteen years ago)

Celtic got Braga of Portugal in their first CL qualifier - away on 27/28 July then home on 3/4 August.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 10:33 (fifteen years ago)

Great stadium iirc

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Friday, 16 July 2010 10:36 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.mimoa.eu/images/2518_l.jpg

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Friday, 16 July 2010 10:38 (fifteen years ago)

Dressing rooms out of shot on the right, players abseil onto the pitch.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 10:43 (fifteen years ago)

that is awesome, although I wouldn't like to be the ballboy.

Braga seems pretty tough. Who else could they have drawn?

Merdeyeux, Friday, 16 July 2010 10:44 (fifteen years ago)

Spurs played Braga two or three years ago, they weren't very good, although I accept they may have improved.

Matt DC, Friday, 16 July 2010 10:50 (fifteen years ago)

Celtic, having fallen spectacularly from their last 16 adventures of a few years ago, were unseeded and could have faced Ajax, Braga, Fenerbahce, Dynamo Kiev or Zenit St Petersburg.

Braga looks the best option out of that lot.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 10:51 (fifteen years ago)

Spurs played Braga two or three years ago, they weren't very good, although I accept they may have improved.

They scored 4 goals though - Spurs won each leg 3-2.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 10:55 (fifteen years ago)

Spurs played Braga two or three years ago, they weren't very good, although I accept they may have improved.

― Matt DC, 16 July 2010 10:50 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

Aw, cmon, we've definitely improved

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Friday, 16 July 2010 10:56 (fifteen years ago)

Stadium set up for headline: CELTIC EURO CAMPAIGN ON THE ROCKS

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 16 July 2010 10:57 (fifteen years ago)

The fans of Braga are known as Arsenalistas due to their teams uniforms that resemble that of English club Arsenal.

You can never get enough Arsenalistas in the Champions League :(

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 11:03 (fifteen years ago)

Braga beat Portsmouth 3-0 in 'arry's last match.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 11:06 (fifteen years ago)

if we get past braga do we face auxerre, sevilla, spurs, samp, or werder bremen? draws are ~confusing~

kim jong-ill (cozen), Friday, 16 July 2010 11:06 (fifteen years ago)

Spurs please

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 16 July 2010 11:07 (fifteen years ago)

Haven't even looked at the next round, might not be worth bothering tbh.

Braga's home league record last season W14 D1 L0 - with 10 clean sheets - giving them their best ever league finish.

Have we got a CL/Europa 09/10 thread yet?

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 11:13 (fifteen years ago)

Would prefer Celtic to most of that lot as well.

Matt DC, Friday, 16 July 2010 11:16 (fifteen years ago)

Don't blame you

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 16 July 2010 11:17 (fifteen years ago)

(If I understand it correctly) You don't get any of that lot - they're on Spurs' side of the draw. xpost

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 11:20 (fifteen years ago)

The Eagles Has Not Landed

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 16 July 2010 11:21 (fifteen years ago)

Winners of
AFC Ajax (NED) v PAOK FC (GRE)
FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) v KAA Gent (BEL)
BSC Young Boys (SUI) v Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)
SC Braga (POR) v Celtic FC (SCO)
FC Unirea Urziceni (ROU) v FC Zenit St Petersburg (RUS)

go into a draw with AJ Auxerre, Sevilla FC, Tottenham Hotspur FC, UC Sampdoria and Werder Bremen into the play-off round. I assume the five teams already in that round are automatically seeded high than the teams in Celtic's round but I might be wrong.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

next round draw

Celtic OR Braga
Fenerbache OR Young Boys
Kiev OR Gent
Unirea OR Zenit*
PAOK OR Ajax*
Sampdoria
Auxerre
Sevilla*
Werder Bermen*

*spurs can't play these

kim jong-ill (cozen), Friday, 16 July 2010 11:25 (fifteen years ago)

happy with missing out on those 3 tbh

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Friday, 16 July 2010 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

Is it me or does the new ICT strip
http://www.ictfc.co.uk/javaImages/8d/4/0,,10447~8848525,00.jpg
look a hell of a lot like Sandy Jardine should be wearing it?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2723/4258421351_5b5b999616_m.jpg

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

Not just you. It hurts me in my heart that they still get to use the Thistle name :-/

ailsa, Friday, 16 July 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

Hibs to play Videotron, or, even better for Irvine Welsh fans, Maribor Stork Nightmares. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/8829217.stm

In other news, Celtic's underwhelming spending spree continues with the capture of Daryl Murphy. Lenny selling it to the fans big style "I think he'd do all right"

ailsa, Friday, 16 July 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

btw, there was a competition on the SPL's official facebook page to win two season tickets to a club of your choice by nominating the funniest moment in the history of the SPL (was coming here to alert peeps due to paucity of entries not of the "lol Celtic getting thumping off St Mirren/Huns/Caley Thistle" variety, but it closed five minutes ago, sorry).

Anyway, was quietly confident with my entry of "Michael Stewart falling over in the tunnel", but think I have been pwned by "Billy Reid swinging on the dugout and falling over" :-(

ailsa, Friday, 16 July 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

Also won't be saddened to be beaten by Jim McLean's square go with John Barnes (BBC reporter version).

ailsa, Friday, 16 July 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

I think I prefer this manager vs reporter spat to the McLean vs Barnes one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naOTHAAIb4c

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)

Never seen this one before. I'm no fan of Smith but I'm loving the complete disdain he has for wee Chick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtMl_X4n7FA

Thing is though, how many hacks have criticised Gordon Strachan's habit of treating stupid questions with contempt while praising Walter's quiet dignity?

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, more people should get it right up Chick, the self-important wee bawbag. I can't imagine that wouldn't be splashed all over the back of the chip wrappers to a huge fuckwit-driven outcry if it was MON/Gogs/Lenny giving Chico grief.

ailsa, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

Usual places have the Celtic v Man Utd friendly up, if anyone's still awake and fancies watching Mark Wilson being shit.

ailsa, Friday, 16 July 2010 23:25 (fifteen years ago)

Charlie Mulgrew = fearbringer.

ailsa, Friday, 16 July 2010 23:28 (fifteen years ago)

btw, Shaun Maloney exists. 21 minutes in and his legs are still intact.

ailsa, Friday, 16 July 2010 23:32 (fifteen years ago)

(see also: Thomas Rogne)

ailsa, Friday, 16 July 2010 23:34 (fifteen years ago)

Looking not bad so far but I can't really be arsed watching it all.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 23:40 (fifteen years ago)

two huge chances for Man U after I posted that :)

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 23:42 (fifteen years ago)

looks like they've got quite the good crowd there. This has been pretty decent but gosh I'm tired.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 16 July 2010 23:44 (fifteen years ago)

Aye. Crosas looking useful. Also <3 Shaun Maloney.

Oh, here's a good idea. Let's leave Berbatov standing on his own.

ailsa, Friday, 16 July 2010 23:46 (fifteen years ago)

ah that was nice, probably a mistake to not bother marking Berbatov though.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 16 July 2010 23:46 (fifteen years ago)

Good goal from Berb. Giggs & Scholes, with a combined aged of Davie Weir, are bossing this.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 23:47 (fifteen years ago)

OK, the dude whose stream I'm watching on Justin is about to lose his copy of the Man Utd POTY Awards 09/10 off his Sky+ box.

ailsa, Friday, 16 July 2010 23:49 (fifteen years ago)

Decent shot by Mulgrew. now learn to defend please...

ailsa, Friday, 16 July 2010 23:55 (fifteen years ago)

Hey Fortune we've signed a bigger non-scoring forward than you, time you looked half-interested!

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 16 July 2010 23:57 (fifteen years ago)

Half time coverage on Man U telly makes ITV look positively professional. Is C67 this bad?

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:08 (fifteen years ago)

MUTV now conducting interviews with women about which shirts they like best. Fascinating stuff.

haha, xpost

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:10 (fifteen years ago)

oh look, it's Sami on for Fortune. One non-scorer for another non-scorer. Whoo.

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:13 (fifteen years ago)

"Celtic should be ahead in the their fitness as they've already played a game" - aye two days ago! Plus we've got half a team of permabroken guys. Hard to believe they're managed to get Rogne, Maloney and Wilson all running at the same time.

Sami on oh joy...

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:13 (fifteen years ago)

Darren O'Dea is a Bad Defender. It worries me that no-one on the staff seems to have noticed.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:15 (fifteen years ago)

Yay - oh, no, offside Sami ya clown :-/

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:17 (fifteen years ago)

btw, link from some fud in a justin.tv chatroom:

http://www.setanta.com/ien/Articles/2010/07/15/Bullard-set-for-Rangers/gnid-72703/

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:17 (fifteen years ago)

You get rid of Darren O'Dea, you are left with Glenn Loovens, who is also a Bad Defender. Does Jos Hooiveld exist still?

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:20 (fifteen years ago)

Loovens > O'Dea imo.

Then again Caldwell > McManus > Loovens but what do I know?

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:23 (fifteen years ago)

Obertan has Mulgrew on toast here. Whole defence is running away from him. Thank fuck there's no-one in the SPL who can run with a ball.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:24 (fifteen years ago)

114 shots in 2 minutes for Man U.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:27 (fifteen years ago)

More than Tony Mowbray, imo (xpost). You're aware I'm not a huge fan of Darren O'Dea, but he never used to give me the fear this badly before he went away on loan. Loovens has less bombscarey moments, but I'm never wholly comfortable with him either. Would rate any of them over World's Slowest Man Josh Thompson though.

Saying that, comedy defence and THG 2.0 keeping Man Utd at bay there.

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:27 (fifteen years ago)

ooh, penalty. Who takes them now that Robbie's away?

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:27 (fifteen years ago)

pen!

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:28 (fifteen years ago)

Should have been red card tbh

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:28 (fifteen years ago)

nice! Bring on the new Sami, better than the old Sami!

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:28 (fifteen years ago)

Sami! Never in doubt (apart from the doubt written all over his face) :)

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:29 (fifteen years ago)

Go Sami! (don't actually go, like, not if yuo're going to run past people and cross balls in and stuff. that's useful!)

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:32 (fifteen years ago)

Hang on, who went off for Sami? Shaun?

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:33 (fifteen years ago)

Here come the Koreans (noticed a lot of Korean-based advertising hoardings, so presumably this is where they are brilliant and sell lots of jerseys)

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:36 (fifteen years ago)

Aye I think so. Crosas off now - we'll not bother passing it any more then...

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:36 (fifteen years ago)

Cha Du Ri = blimey, a speedy full back!

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:40 (fifteen years ago)

Hang on, what, this might have to go to penalties because Canadians don't understand the concept of draws? Madness!

Hang on pt 2 - Ben Hutchison?

Hang on pt 3 - Maloney was still on?

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:41 (fifteen years ago)

Shop window performance from Sami here - might be the last time we see him.

Aye Cha looked fast + good there.

Maloney just coming off now - no idea who disappeared for Sami then :)

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:42 (fifteen years ago)

So who went off for Sami? Is James Forrest still there?

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:42 (fifteen years ago)

Actually, is Scott Brown still on?

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:42 (fifteen years ago)

Ben Hutchison wtf

Aye I think Forest's on the right, can't really see much through the pixelation. Brown maybe? xpost aye I think so

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:43 (fifteen years ago)

Oh look, comedy defending :-(

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:46 (fifteen years ago)

Hey Darren, get the right side of your man for once, eh?

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:47 (fifteen years ago)

pfft total pish at the back there, you can't even call that defending.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:47 (fifteen years ago)

pfft what I just said

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:54 (fifteen years ago)

This is better than last year when we were romping the Wembley Cup and dreaming of glory though, eh? Least this way we have no expectations to be crapped upon.

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:56 (fifteen years ago)

^ do not necessarily believe this

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:56 (fifteen years ago)

Hooray, we're still crap. Bring on teh Portugeezers :-/

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 01:00 (fifteen years ago)

+ves: Sami, Forest, Crosas, Ledley, Zaluska (though I think he could maybe have saved the 2nd one)
-ves: Fortune, O'Dea, Fortune, Wilson, Brown, Fortune

Jury out on the rest. Liked what little I saw of Cha and Ki. Where is Morten Rasmussen?

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 01:04 (fifteen years ago)

Fortune OK then (two negatives make a positive!)?

Thought Brown did OK first half, but then again, it took about 20 minutes before I noticed he wasn't even there in the second :-o

Think Sami's doing a Donati; as you said, I don't expect him to be there at the end of the window but he's doing everything to make it look like he should be.

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 09:13 (fifteen years ago)

Facebook has just suggested Jimmy Bullard to me. "Many who like Jeff Stelling also like Jimmy Bullard". :-(

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 09:24 (fifteen years ago)

Fortune OK then (two negatives make a positive!)?

Three negatives make a very negative in my scoring system.

I'd be surprised at the Huns taking Bullard if they can't afford Eagles. Bullard being touted for Celtic and Rangers but no-one in the English Premier makes me think no-one wants to touch him. I think he's averaging about 12 games a season uninjured - can't see anyone taking a £40k a week punt on that.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 09:36 (fifteen years ago)

Where is Morten Rasmussen?

Reason I'm asking is that we have a physical presence in 6'4" Samaras who doesn't score goals, 6' Fortune who doesn't score goals and we've signed Murphy at 6'3" to give us a physical presence and probably not score goals when when already have 6'1" Rasmussen who has a physical presence and, get this, scores goals!

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 09:40 (fifteen years ago)

Oh aye, still asleep, didn't see the extra negative Fortune in the middle (lol Fortune in the middle, etc).

Can't see any truth in the Bullard to Huns rumour either, but googling for Bullard Rangers last night brought to light the revelation that the person he turned to for advice* as to whether he should go to Celtic was, um, Lee McCulloch. That's surely on a par with "hey Artur, should I sign for Rangers?"

* talking of which, have we scrapped this Lenny mentor idea now, btw?

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 10:00 (fifteen years ago)

Whoo, we have an early contender for false headline of the year:

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/3058288/Neil-offers-MoJo-a-job.html

(Neil Lennon does not meet Maurice Johnston, does not offer him a job)

Still, Dario Franchitti is going to end bigotry by being the 8 zillionth Celtic fan to be on friendly terms with Rangers fans. Clue: it's not these people who are the bigots.

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 10:05 (fifteen years ago)

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It's like they don't even know me :-(

ailsa, Saturday, 17 July 2010 10:24 (fifteen years ago)

I'm being recommended the Liberal Democrats because I like The Thick Of It :/

I've stopped getting football recommendations since I unliked Robbie Keane.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 11:16 (fifteen years ago)

how'd cervi do?

156, Saturday, 17 July 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't play. Was at fault for goal against Union iirc.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 17 July 2010 17:00 (fifteen years ago)

I'd like to thank Neil Lennon for signing Daryl Murphy. After Keane wouldn't take him to Ipswich, I thought we were never going to get rid of him.

The notion of DM providing a "physical presence" is very funny. For a big bloke, he gets pushed off the ball all the time. He's hopeless in the air, and I've watched him out-jumped and out-muscled by, err, Shaun Wright-Phillips.

He can run, but his control is poor and his vision is woeful, and his crossing (on the rare occasion he beats a full-back) consists of a blind hoof in the vague direction of the penalty spot.

His total ineptitude as both a centre-forward and a winger have seen him recast in the role of a "striker-winger".

He's rubbish.

Ranking Rupert, Saturday, 17 July 2010 17:10 (fifteen years ago)

Aye he's pish. Juarez and ledley signings really pleased me. This has brought me back to earth. Another useless "striker".

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 17 July 2010 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

as good a player as Juarez seems to be I'd be wary, he must be an idiot to leave behind a club with this kit:

http://www.uksoccershop.com/images/pumas_away_0708.jpg

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 17 July 2010 17:20 (fifteen years ago)

Banamex: racist.

Humbert Humberto Suazo (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 17 July 2010 17:22 (fifteen years ago)

blind hoof in the vague direction of the penalty spot.

>>>> Lee Naylor then

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

Forgot about tonight's friendly (not forgot so much as assumed it was going to be on a lot later than it was).

Which means I missed a Paddy McCourt goal, and the WTF sight of Cillian Sheridan at left back. Anyone got Lee Naylor's phone number?

ailsa, Sunday, 18 July 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

Cervi made an arse of it for their goal apparently. Sammy scored a goal that was chopped off in order to give a penalty and send off the keeper :/ sounds like woeful refereeing.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 18 July 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

Yesterday's NOTW had Celtic back in for Bullard and also after Speroni.

No to Bullard and mibbes aye to Speroni.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Monday, 19 July 2010 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48402000/jpg/_48402491_miller-alexander_466b.jpg

didn't realise the Nacho Novo to Sporting Gijon move was a straight swap with their home kit going the other way.

Merdeyeux, Monday, 19 July 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)

Actually, that's an old Rangers change strip from the 60s or 70s

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Monday, 19 July 2010 12:00 (fifteen years ago)

Possibly blue stripes rather than red though

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Monday, 19 July 2010 12:01 (fifteen years ago)

Also heard David James as potential new keeper. Wouldn't say no to Speroni though.

ailsa, Monday, 19 July 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)

Gordon Strachan's importing of the SPL player-by-player to the Championship continues apace, looks like Craig Conway's going next.

ailsa, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

dinnae be mibbying speroni, he's been the top keeper in the championship for a good few years now - flaps like a tart at crosses but his shot-stopping is so unbelievable it hardly matters.

long-term though kieran westwood is really good if you can afford the £2-3m.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)

flaps like a tart at crosses but his shot-stopping is so unbelievable it hardly matters.

We just got rid of one of them :-)

We're routinely chucking in excess of a million quid at strikers who can't score, so chucking in excess of a million at a keeper who might compensate for their shortcomings sounds like a no-brainer. Unfortunately, no-brainers seem to be running tings at Celtic just now, so we'll probably end up with, I dunno, Jamie Langfield or something.

How old is Speroni now? It seems like a million years since he was at Dundee. I did get a good few points out of him in Fantasy Football when CryPal were Prem, right enough.

ailsa, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

He's 31 - another good few years in him.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

Cheers - is hard enough sneaking about on interwebs at work without trying to check two pages at a time :-)

ailsa, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

Clocked a bloke in town today with a Rangers shirt with "Drogba 9" on the back of it. Quality amounts of wishful thinking going on there.

ailsa, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

make a change from the one i saw with
July
12
FTP

on the back

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 16:43 (fifteen years ago)

File Transfer Protocol?

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 16:45 (fifteen years ago)

One? They're everywhere.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 16:46 (fifteen years ago)

feel the pain

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 16:47 (fifteen years ago)

Andy Goram still struggling with his issues, I see, claiming Vile Laughatme can be a 25 goals a season striker. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/8838632.stm

Also nice to see the BBC tradition of illustrating stories mentioning Kris Boyd with really REALLY bad photos of him (even by his standards) continues even though he's away.

Best Celtic shirt I saw was the

Albert Kidd
86

one I saw a few years back.

ailsa, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

I've only seen one, was a wee while ago when I was coming out of the chippy, a guy early 20s. Seen plenty of the july 12 tops over the years but not with FTP on it.
I dont suppose the polis would do anything if one of them saw it even if they know fine well what it stands for.
xp

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:20 (fifteen years ago)

fight the power

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

fight the police, surely?

ailsa, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

fuck tha police was going to be my next effort

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

(deep) Fry The Pizza is more apt as it's Scotland.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:36 (fifteen years ago)

I expect there will be an accies fan somewhere with FTW on it. (fuck the well, incase you need to ask)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

the initials thing must be taking off, the salvation army building got IRA graffiti on it the other week and one of the spraypainted things was FTQ.
I blame texting, when I was a lad sectarian graffiti had the full words on it. Those kids today..

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:40 (fifteen years ago)

Shortening FTP/Q has been a thing for as long as I can remember.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:54 (fifteen years ago)

xposts, it was never going to be "for the win", was it?

btw, the guy who suggested Billy Reid falling over won the SPL competition. Bah, that's so passe it's even been a what happened next on Question of Sport. Mickey Stewart falling over way better, as any fule kno.

xpost, yes, but Lanarkshire's more civilised, innit? oh, wait...

ailsa, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:55 (fifteen years ago)

rangers just got £2m rising to £5m from Liverpool apparently. Maybe they can get Eagles now.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

First beer opportunity home game of the season is the Braga game two weeks today. Onimo, do the wee yins get that one on their season books too, or are we going to drink beer and whinge about left backs? (Jim, let us know if you're ever around for pre-match beering and moaning as well)

ailsa, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)

For Wilson, or just as a generous gesture from a kindly stranger?

ailsa, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:59 (fifteen years ago)

*googles*

ah, OK? pfunkboy, as someone who thought Liverpool offering £3m for McGeady would be a waste of money, I assume you're apopleptic with rage at paying that for a guy with virtually no experience who makes David Weir look quite good?

ailsa, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 18:00 (fifteen years ago)

Two weeks tomorrow is it not? Aye the boys will be getting their first taste of European football.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 18:00 (fifteen years ago)

Ive not seen him tbh, so I dont really know much about him. But if he makes weir look good, oh dear.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, I thought it was the Tuesday. You can see I'm excitedly counting down the days.

lol, I've just read the BBC report about Danny Wilson. "Ibrox chief executive Martin Bain insists the move will net the Glasgow club £2million". Good old Martin Bain, you keep telling it like you think it is, doesn't mean even the BBC believe you.

ailsa, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 18:02 (fifteen years ago)

I don't imagine anyone here is a baseball fan, but Celtic is set to play Sporting Lisbon (instead of Rangers) at Fenway Park in Boston, and this is what it looks like:

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5503/fenway597x447.jpg

Danny Dyer (dan m), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:11 (fifteen years ago)

haha some shitty seats there for watching football. Perfect for baseball obviously.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

Agreed. I've been to a couple of MLS matches in converted baseball stadia, and it basically doesn't work at all.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:20 (fifteen years ago)

Plenty of exercise for the ballboys running behind the goals to retrieve the latest MAF attempt at worrying the keeper.

ailsa, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)

rumours on the accies msg board yesterday says james mcarthur is off to wigan

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 10:25 (fifteen years ago)

That's one of the longest standing rumours in history surely?

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 10:28 (fifteen years ago)

I know what you mean but it's supposedly happening on thursday.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 10:44 (fifteen years ago)

There's nothing on the bbc yet but the msg board says its happening.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 10:45 (fifteen years ago)

and the club are to issue a statement

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 10:46 (fifteen years ago)

statements up actually
http://www.acciesfc.co.uk/

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 10:48 (fifteen years ago)

i presume he gets a medical and signs tomorrow

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 10:50 (fifteen years ago)

So Wigan have James McArthur and James McCarthy, is there a James McCartney at Hamilton at all?

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 10:51 (fifteen years ago)

im sure theres deed poll to be used if needed

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 10:52 (fifteen years ago)

btw david james to Celtic: want or do not want?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 10:52 (fifteen years ago)

Sure, we'll have him. Any more English OAPs avaiable?

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 10:53 (fifteen years ago)

Sol Campbell? David Beckham? Jamie Carragher? Paul Scholes? Nicky Butt?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 10:55 (fifteen years ago)

Heskey...

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 10:56 (fifteen years ago)

Would be better surely to bring young guys through, there must be some good young players at Celtic & Rangers. Typical of Rangers to punt theirs though.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 11:02 (fifteen years ago)

Would prefer an experienced goalie to a young guy at this stage.

There are good young players at Celtic, always have been. Some don't make it but do OK elsewhere where the competition isn't so fierce, some (Aiden McGeady, Steven McManus for recent examples) do. Whether or not they do a Ryan Giggs and stay forever, or whether they go for money because money is needed and these players are replaceable, doesn't make Celtic any different from, say Hamilton punting McArthur, or in fact Celtic punting a bought-in player, say Caldwell or MacDonald, when the time/money is right.#

I can't believe this has to be explained every sodding transfer window.

Also, why so surprised at young players being punted for money by a club who need money? They're punting everything they can get a price for.

ailsa, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 11:24 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not surprised, I just said it was typical.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 11:35 (fifteen years ago)

It's typical of every club (and business) ever, to be quite honest (need money, have an asset, realise that asset). So typical in fact that singling Rangers out for doing it seems like you're setting them apart for some reason, which I misinterpreted as surprise.

ailsa, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 11:44 (fifteen years ago)

I think any club that bins more than 20 players in two years and signs no-one is pretty much singling itself out.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 11:53 (fifteen years ago)

Rangers more in need of asset realisation than most. Hey, they're skint, stop the presses, drudge sirens, etc.

ailsa, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

The obvious must never be stated on a football thread.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 13:32 (fifteen years ago)

Tru dat. case in point:

Other bits of the internet just now: "Oh God, not David James, he's rubbish, let's stick with Zaluska and Cervi". Same other bits of the internet a couple of months ago "Oh God, not Steve McClaren, he's rubbish, let's stick with Neil Lennon".

Blinkers*, don't ya just love them? Why let actual fact get in the way of received wisdom and revisionist bullshit**?

* not Regi

** should be the board description when we finally get I Love Football

ailsa, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)

Apparently Big Fat Sol to Celtic is a thing.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 22 July 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

I thought it wasn't a thing any more, or does he come as a BOGOF old English blokes deal with David James? I can't keep up. If he's anything like every other centre half we've tried since the loss of the godlike Gary Caldwell, his hamstrings will be borked within 25 minutes of his first game.

ailsa, Thursday, 22 July 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

Campbell should switch to Rangers after a season just to make himself as popular in Glasgow as he is in London.

Matt DC, Thursday, 22 July 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

He'd be just about old enough by then, so why not?

ailsa, Thursday, 22 July 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, and as an addendum to the FTP discussion upthread, I noticed this morning that someone had sprayed FTP at on the wall of the shop at the end of my road. Someone else has now added "olis" at the end. So, um, there you go.

ailsa, Thursday, 22 July 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

Penalty shootout from friendly against Sporting Lisbon last night (lol Americans need a winner in a friendly). WTF is Mark Wilson doing being our first guy up in the shootout?

http://www.nesn.com/2010/07/celtic-fc-sporting-cp-settle-tie-with-penalty-kicks.html

So, our record of scoring goals in pre-season friendlies thus far: Sami is quite good at penalties now. Everyone from open play, cow's arse, banjo. GET ONE ROBBIE KEANE (or Scott MacDonald or something) BACK PLEASE KTHANXBYE.

ailsa, Thursday, 22 July 2010 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

xp

lol thats a good un

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 July 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, graffiting shop walls is brilliant :-/

ailsa, Thursday, 22 July 2010 16:43 (fifteen years ago)

FTQueensofthestoneage-Kyuss4ever

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 July 2010 16:44 (fifteen years ago)

Neil Lennon playing right into your hands here re Efrain Juarez:

He's young too and if he does well there will be a re-sale value

ailsa, Thursday, 22 July 2010 16:44 (fifteen years ago)

any hibs players to replace him with?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 July 2010 16:57 (fifteen years ago)

someone had sprayed FTP at on the wall of the shop at the end of my road. Someone else has now added "olis" at the end

one of my earliest memories is of seeing 'fuck the polis' spraypainted on a railway bridge in my hometown and wondering why they had misspelled 'police'. The last time I passed by it was still there, gallantly hanging over the main road into the town centre for at least twenty years and counting.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 22 July 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)

which town?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 July 2010 18:02 (fifteen years ago)

Port Glasgow.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 22 July 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

jeez what is it with ILX and that area

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 July 2010 18:14 (fifteen years ago)

we did nothing wrong :'(

who else is from around there?

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 22 July 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

Is the Motherwell game not on telly anywhere?

ailsa, Thursday, 22 July 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

dont think so

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 July 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

Someone on justin claims to have it on Icelandic telly, but I think they're telling fibs, can't find a link anywhere.

ailsa, Thursday, 22 July 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

Was looking to half-watch it while watching something else on the telly - will have to make do with live updates via the BBC website, can't be arsed with Radio Scotland.

ailsa, Thursday, 22 July 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

(Mother)Well done, chaps. Up the coefficient!

ailsa, Thursday, 22 July 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

Neil Lennon: "Bedlam will start when we return."

Who is this Bedlam and can he play left back?

Strange to have a manager talking up his transfer activity instead of playing it quiet - especially after already signing 5 or 6 players.

Mad Martin's being talking up McGeady, hopefully we'll get a sizeable chunk of the Milner money for him.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 23 July 2010 09:17 (fifteen years ago)

Fuck a Sol Bamba, tbh.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Friday, 23 July 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

He was tired after all those games he didn't play in the World Cup!

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Friday, 23 July 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe Gordon Strachan will take him off your hands?

ailsa, Friday, 23 July 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

lol Jamie "new Kirk Broadfoot" Langfield.

The 30-year-old spilled boiling water over his right foot during the bus journey south after the bus jerked while he was attempting to pour water from a small kettle while making himself a cup of coffee.

http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/1841338?UserKey=#ixzz0ucguNJW7

ailsa, Saturday, 24 July 2010 17:47 (fifteen years ago)

For the love of god, stop it with the madness:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/celtic/william-gallas-is-interested-in-a-move-to-celtic-1.1043487

ailsa, Saturday, 24 July 2010 23:26 (fifteen years ago)

So this Hooper guy then - any good?

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Monday, 26 July 2010 16:43 (fifteen years ago)

what division is he coming from?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 July 2010 16:46 (fifteen years ago)

The English Championship - scored more than a goal every two games with a struggling Scunthorpe side.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Monday, 26 July 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)

Seems decent enough from what I've read. Possibly worth asking on the lower leagues thread?

ailsa, Monday, 26 July 2010 17:43 (fifteen years ago)

Scunthorpe fans on the BBC message boards seem gutted to be losing him, but convinced he's destined for better things. Also his nickname is Hoops, so Hoops on the Hoops seems to be a no-brainer for marketing purposes :-)

ailsa, Monday, 26 July 2010 17:47 (fifteen years ago)

btw, not looking forward to having to listen to our European adventures on the radio. Cheers for not wanting any TV money, Portugeezers :-/

ailsa, Monday, 26 July 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

cough

"A station is available and will appear here from 16:00 on the day of the event."

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Monday, 26 July 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

:-) But from where? Some dude with a camcorder on top of the rockface stand?

ailsa, Monday, 26 July 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)

I am informed by regular web watching colleagues that vipstand dot net could be the place to be tonight, if that other one doesn't work.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)

Look, it's our new non-Smudger-shaped 12 foot lizard. A cricket bloke.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/8863484.stm

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

Bricking it for the game tonight. Off for a wee nervous nap.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

Anyone able to get to Paisley, Borgia on New Street have their Portuguese telly on, apparently. Unfortunately I have zero cash money so can't go myself. Stupid UEFA and their stupid timing of putting games on two days before payday :-(

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 17:55 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, and Paul Hartley has signed for Aberdeen.

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 17:55 (fifteen years ago)

Oh I should have given yous the scoop on that yesterday morning - he was sitting with one of my colleagues on a flight to Bristol and told him Aberdeen was pretty much a done deal.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

Other linky here if anyone needs it

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

oops, here

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

Looks like

-------------------Zaluska-----------------------

Cha ---- Loovens ---- Hooiveld ---- Mulgrew

Juarez --- Brown --- Ki --- Ledley -- Maloney

-----------------Sami---------------------------

Scary defence + midfield who'll meet each other for the first time at kick-off + Sami. What could possibly go wrong?

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

haha, shit.

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

Just looking at the team sheet makes me miss Lee Naylor :(

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

Lineup confirmed, wine going down at great rate of knots already. Split screen game + ILX on the laptop. Going to be a long night...

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

trying to drag words out of the Portuguese commentary, all I have so far is 'George Lucas'.

McGeady not even on the bench? That's the end of him, then.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

14000 viewers on my stream and rising - and it's only one of five on this site.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, that's what I figured as well.

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

orange ball? What madness is this.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

Keep us updated with links if any of them go down, that one I linked to is off already.

(what I figured was about McGeady being off, not that there were 14000 people watching the same channel as onimo)

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

Oh brilliant, Charlie Mulgrew booked already :-/

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

Back four giving me the fear. Ki and Sami looking good.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

Sami doing his usual "spotted in midfield surrounded by people zillions of miles from goal" lone striker routine, but that's OK for now. Ledley unafraid to go forward (hi dere Scott Brown, you used to be able to do that)

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

orange ball?!

cozen, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

Mulgrew's gash so far.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

what did he get booked for? I missed it

cozen, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

Spot the superfluous "so far" in the above sentence...

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

Eek, fear! bring back Paul Telfer and Lee Naylor! Take it Andy Hinkel's for the off as well, btw?

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

(joking about Telfer, not so much about Nayls)

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

irrational football beliefs: it's impossible to play good football w/a coloured ball

cozen, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

fuck sake

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

^ this

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

thought stop start penalty runs were banned?

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

What is Shaun Maloney supposed to be doing? Has anyone noticed that unless it's "nothing" he isn't doing it?

Daft pen for Ki to give away, we were looking ok for a while :(

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

Forgot he was playing, tbh. I think he has an' all.

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

Some Portuguese dude's just tried to wake him up by chopping him in half. Let's see if that works (or breaks him again).

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

Portuguese dude won the ball imo.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

wasn't being entirely serious. am not enjoying this at all now.

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

what is the deal with stop start penalties

cozen, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

Wiki says (citation needed) that you can slow down but can't stop once you start your run-up

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

noticed ajax are playing stekelenburg, van der wiel and suarez

cup-tie-a-rific

cozen, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/football/05/19/football.penalty.FIFA.WorldCup/index.html

(CNN) -- Footballers taking penalties at next month's World Cup finals in South Africa will no longer be able to stop at the end of their run up to try and trick the goalkeeper.

The rule change is a reaction to the growing number of players, particularly in South America, now using so-called feints to deceive the opposition.

In an announcement made at a meeting of the International Football Association Board (IFAB), chaired by FIFA president Sepp Blatter on Tuesday, those who halt just before kicking the ball will receive a yellow card for "unsporting behavior".

"Feinting in the run-up to take a penalty kick to confuse opponents is permitted, however feinting to kick the ball once the player has completed his run-up is now considered an infringement," FIFA secretary general Jerome Valcke told a press conference held at the organizations headquarters in Switzerland.

Players may also be forced to retake the penalty if the ball goes into the net.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

This is all assuming it was a deliberate handball in the first place, which wee pixelly screen isn't convincing me of at all.

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

Is good that it took me half an hour of the season to start moaning about refereeing mistakes. Where's Kerr when you need him? :-)

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

Oh dear God, can we not just get Mjallby out of the dugout and into the middle of that defence?

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

I thought it was a pen. Ref's a fussy prick all the same, giving fouls for every wee nudge..

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

I love* how we have 8 million midfielders and have already resorted to the big pointless hoof up the park to the no-one up front. And seriously, how is it possible to keep finding even worse left backs every single time?

* not really

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

Mulgrew looking every inch the player you give away to get a Lee Naylor from Wolves.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

can we give him away again and get Lee Naylor back from Shettleston Jobcentre?

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

look everyone, the season is an hour old and my knee is jerking already. It's good to be back.

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

ah being reasonable is no fun, if somethings going to make me care about Scottish football this season I'm pretty sure it won't be the football itself.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

I can't work out what kind of football Neil Lennon wants his team to play here. I know it's early days and all that but they seem directionless.

Murphy on now for Maloney - expect more hoofing of long balls.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

Dear TV peeps, stop showing Lenny + Thommo + Dolph, it's like the "here's what you could have won" bit when you win fuck all at the end of Bullseye and they wave a fucking speedboat in your face when you're standing there with a bendy Bully and your bus fare home.

Oh, here comes Darryl Murphy.

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

First time ever any of those three have been compared to anything speedy.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

Right, time to get positive and get this away goal.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

of my fucking god celtic that's shocking

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

lol. I was going for vaguely classy and of value compared to what you actually have.

Oh shite. FFS.

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

Did that actually come off Glenn Loovens?

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

ah jeezo guys you're supposed to defend corners.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

Loovens out.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

It's bouncing at his feet wtf is he doing?

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

At least we have another few weeks to sign another new team.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

Make room in the taxi for Mulgrew as well. I will be positive here and say I like the look* of Juarez when the game's not passing over the top of his head

* not his actual looks. Saw him described somewhere else as just a car crash away from being Carlos Tevez, which is o_0 but lol

Oh, here comes James Forrest. Teeny hero time! (who went off, was it Sami?)

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

Just think, I have only 24 hours before I have the same reaction.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

No. not Sami, just seen him.

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

MARIBOR STORK NIGHTMARES already copyrighted by me. You're welcome.

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

fuck off!

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

Oh ffs

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

Zaluska out

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

Going to need a bigger taxi...

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

Forrest out for that fucking dive as well - put us from a good position straight back into the shit.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

well hey, at least a Europa League playoff tie with Man City will be fun, right?

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

What Europa League play off tie? Thought there was only a parachute from the next round, which we won't be in?

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

No, this *is* the round with the parachute.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%9311_UEFA_Champions_League#Third_qualifying_round

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

Not looking forward to seeing Aston Villa's Aiden McGeady ripping Charlie Mulgrew a new one :-(

(can that happen? Haven't bothered looking at seedings, but it seems crushingly inevitable)

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

Rangers edging closer out of debt then with all champions league cash again then.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

Watching us vs Holland in 78 on ESPN classic. Fuck me we were awesome.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

and still losers at the same time.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:37 (fifteen years ago)

i could watch *that* goal another million times though.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8uchI1g3tM

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:43 (fifteen years ago)

Can he play left back?

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)

I would imagine, at whatever age he is now, he will still be a better left back than Danny Fox!!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)

Would take Danny Fox back right now, tbh.

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

http://celticfc.net/news/stories/news_280710221413.aspx

Man of the Match: Glenn Loovens

World officially gone mad.

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

Andreas Hinkel omission explained:

Although Lennon indicated McGeady still had a future at Parkhead, the same cannot be said for right-back Andreas Hinkel, who was also not in the squad - because he was not registered.

"He's got a year left on his contract and we can't afford to let that run down," Lennon said.

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/10/07/28/SOCCER_Celtic_Quotes.html

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)

you also can't afford to let two inexperienced fullbacks try to get you the European big bucks, but whatevs, you're the boss.

ailsa, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 22:50 (fifteen years ago)

Season over then?

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 July 2010 09:07 (fifteen years ago)

Nah we've got a realistic shot of running Rangers' 4 remaining players really close this year.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 09:17 (fifteen years ago)

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/celtic/189011-lennon-mcgeady-injury-ruled-him-out-against-braga/

After the final whistle, he insisted injury and not a potential transfer had caused him to leave McGeady out.

"He was complaining of a chronic back injury last night," the Celtic manager said.

If you're going to talk about player injuries and still want to sell them please don't use the word "chronic" as it tends to knock zeros off the end of the price!

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 09:19 (fifteen years ago)

Received txt last night, in a desperate display of straw clutching, reminding me that we went on to win the title after Artmedia mugged us. Still would rather not have lost 5-0 to Artmedia tho.

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 July 2010 09:25 (fifteen years ago)

We won the home tie 4-0 against Artmedia (& probably should have scored more) - can't see Braga letting one in never mind four.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 09:29 (fifteen years ago)

maybe he just meant chronic as in stocious?

cozen, Thursday, 29 July 2010 09:36 (fifteen years ago)

"Fuckin' chronic" about describes that result last night

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 July 2010 09:37 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe he was carrying too many Dr Dre albums in his bag.

we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 09:43 (fifteen years ago)

Hey, Lenny, thanks for another midfielder. Going to teach your defenders to involve them rather than punting the ball right over their heads, kthanxbye

ailsa, Thursday, 29 July 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

He spent years looking up at long punts when he was playing for Martin O'Neill, he thinks that's what midfielders do.

shakiraghmac (onimo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

jeez i only saw this result now

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 July 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

Was a bit of a doing considering Braga weren't that great and didn't do much. Soft (though file under "seen them given") penalty that should maybe have been retaken, the shittiest defending from a corner ever and a weird long range free kick that seemed to take a deflection against fresh air, jubilani style, and made an arse of the keeper.

Not very much to report in front of goal apart from that. It's telling that Celtic's best chance was Daryl Murphy trying a cheeky goal from his own half when pretending to give them the ball back following an injury.

shakiraghmac (onimo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

the shittiest defending from a corner ever

Keen students of the Celtic defence will know that this is a bold claim, but I tend to agree we've got ourselves a winner. You know it's bad when you find yourself wishing for Steven McManus not to have left :-/

ailsa, Thursday, 29 July 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

Reporting Scotland unable to get footage to show the Braga goals, so they've wheeled out "highlights" of the Artmedia Bratislava game from five fucking years ago. Cheers.

ailsa, Thursday, 29 July 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

Motherwell 1-0 up with ten minutes to go. Not all disastrous in Europe this week for teh coefficient.

ailsa, Thursday, 29 July 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

btw, I really hate the wee flash of Jimmy Calderwood's creosoted mug every time I load this thread. Cheers, Merdeyeux :-(

ailsa, Thursday, 29 July 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

I should've thought through the effects of multiple viewings, it's true. Consider it encouragement to take up bookmarking.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 29 July 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

That's what I was going to suggest.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

I use bookmarking but sometimes there's been so many posts since the last bookmark they don't work and then you're stuck looking at jc's mug ; )

colossal fucking snob (cozen), Thursday, 29 July 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)

Poor the Well.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

what is that expression he's got on anyway?

colossal fucking snob (cozen), Thursday, 29 July 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

Essence of creosote.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE.

That's yr comedy defending, right there.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

Hooray, the women's athletics is back on justin.tv

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

did motherwell get knocked out?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

Gave away a penalty with the last kick of the ball for a draw. Away goal will come in handy for the return leg though.

Boo, the football's back.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

ahh ok, first leg.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

It's a two-legged tie, Kerr. I realise European football is of no interest to a Hamilton fan at this stage, but Lolverpool are playing the same competition tonight (in fact, they are 1-0 up on Metal Mickey even as we speak).

xpost

Poor the Hibs. Get on with it, coefficient-restorers!

I do use bookmarks, but occasional refreshing of thread leads to a momentary flash of Calderwood, like when you blink and have an image frozen on the eyelids. An image of Jimmy fecking Calderwood.

ailsa, Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

to a Hamilton fan at this stage

Should say "at any stage", really.

ailsa, Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

We get a whole three more games this season before you can zing right back...

ailsa, Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

when I'm in charge we'll all have images of Jimmy Calderwood tattooed onto the insides of our eyelids...

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

^ Needs to go on this thread: invent a terrifying scenario in 10 words or less

ailsa, Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

Why is it always Martina Ratej throwing the javelin?

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

Bring back Martina. Although I think there was a foul in the buildup to that.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

UTTER PISH

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

Welcome to our world. It's shite, isn't it?

ailsa, Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

At least yours was against a side somebody had actually heard of.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

oh dear. Slavoj Zizek, uuuuh some other Slovenian, some other Slovenian, your boys have handed out one hell of a beating.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

Hibs fucked. Motherwell carrying the flag. Gonna be a long fucking season.

Oh, Die Hard's on Film4 - fuck a shitty Hibs stream.

shakiraghmac (onimo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

Yogi out

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

david james has gone to a bigger club then after all.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:01 (fifteen years ago)

Better, not bigger

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

Midfielders signed by Celtic in since Gordon Strachan arrived in 2005, with apologies if I've missed any or if anyone thinks Gary Caldwell, Georgios Samaras or Adam Fucking Virgo should count as a midfielder.

Shinsuke Nakamura, Roy Keane, Jiri Jarosik, Evander Sno, Thomas Gravesen, Paul Hartley, Scott Brown, Massimo Donati, Barry Robson, Koki Mizuno, Paddy McCourt, Marc Crosas, Shaun Maloney, Niall McGinn, Willo Flood, Landry N'Guemo, Zheng Zhi, Ki Sung Yueng, Diomancy Kamara, Joe Ledley, Efrain Juarez, Beram Kayal

I make that 22 in 5 years. Given that we've pretty much played a rigid 4-4-2 in that time that's five and a half teams worth of midfielders!

shakiraghmac (onimo), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

bloody hell

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

Bearing in mind that Scott Brown is immovable from the midfield unless suspended and that Aiden McGeady isn't even on that list since we didn't buy him, that's a *lot* of guys into not very much space (team sheet wise, like, there's always loads and loads of actual space in the middle of the park when you play with two blokes stapled to the touchlines).

There's some good players on that list (but a decided lack of steel since Hartley and Robson went away), btw.

ailsa, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

not only is it 22 in 5 years, it's 14 since 2008! Should really be going with the classic 0-10-0 formation.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

We tried that against St Mirren last season, didn't we?

ailsa, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

did sny of you guys see this? https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=World-Cup-History

I dont know if it was posted on the world cup thread or not

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 July 2010 23:49 (fifteen years ago)

So McGeady's chronic back injury isn't really that chronic. He misses a crucial champs league game then plays in a nonsense friendly :/

shakiraghmac (onimo), Saturday, 31 July 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

'tic fans have taken over my neighbourhood this ar'ternoon

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Saturday, 31 July 2010 12:49 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/heart_of_midlothian/8873858.stm

Hearts have been hit with a record £60,000 fine after a sixth successive season of poor discipline.

The Scottish Football Association have ordered the Tynecastle club to pay £50,000 within 30 days, with £10,000 suspended until January.

The SFA have penalised Hearts every year since the 2004-05 campaign.

And the Edinburgh outfit were again the worst offenders in the Scottish Premier League last term, with 10 red cards and 89 cautions.

You really can't argue with Hearts clogging record. Motherwell ran them close for a few years but the class always comes through.

shakiraghmac (onimo), Saturday, 31 July 2010 13:01 (fifteen years ago)

More shit defending then a good fightback from 2-0 for the draw. Forest & Hooper looked good. Mulgrew with a few deadly crosses, he's still not a left-back.

shakiraghmac (onimo), Saturday, 31 July 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

McGeady's chronic back has mutated into a knacked calf now. Hmmmmmm.

Didn't see yesterday's game at all due to Sky+ error (OK, human error of forgetting to set Sky+, whatever). Settling down for today's ill-timed meaningless shitfest right now.

ailsa, Sunday, 1 August 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

Kilmarnock manager Mixu Paatelainen has made his first signing since taking over at Rugby Park, snapping up [...] winger David Silva.

good signing, that.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 1 August 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

ha, I totally had to double-take on that when I read it earlier.

ailsa, Sunday, 1 August 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

Neil Lennon gives his new mentor the vote of confidence:

"He doesn't need to be my pal, we're just going to talk football,"

Hey, I'm not Neil Lennon's pal, I'll talk football to him. "Charlie Mulgrew's no' that good, mate". There you go, simple, I'll take cash or a cheque, ta. I sort of really don't quite understand what Baxter's actual job is going to be. It doesn't appear to have been mentioned on the club site yet, so I don't even know if it's an actual job, or if he's just someone Neil Lennon isn't necessarily pals with but might phone up if he remembers he hasn't got a clue what he's doing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/8877120.stm

Oh, and the Scotland squad's announced. I remained underwhelmed.

ailsa, Monday, 2 August 2010 17:20 (fifteen years ago)

Better quotes in the Evening Times:

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/stuart-baxter-my-role-at-celtic-1.1045256

putting the "he doesn't need to be my pal" in context. Doesn't Neil Lennon have people like, ooh, I dunno, Martin O'Neill, that he can ring up for a chat, rather than having an officially-sanctioned ear to bend?

I still don't know if he's actually *employed* by Celtic to be Lenny's personal advice line. " I am in contact with them as a consultant, in inverted commas" doesn't sound very official to me. Is he paid by the minute? By the good idea?

ailsa, Monday, 2 August 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

Ah, seems he's not a thing. As you were.

I am watching last Friday's "The Football Years". Here's Jim McLean mumping about overpriced foreign footballers infiltrating Scottish football on the back of Rangers buying the league in 1998/99: "we were bringing players from all over Europe to try and stay in the league. Some of them were good and some of them were DUMPLINGS!. We had enough of them here already without bringing in more from overseas". <3

ailsa, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

Hey, look what I found on the old thread:

The international, who has 32 international caps, could play in centre midfield, on the left hand side or even fill in at left-back as he has done on occasion for Cardiff.

^ about Joe Ledley, who played the second half at left back tonight. Still, at least it only took Lenny 135 minutes of competitive football to realise what we've all been saying for ages, that Chuckie Mulgrew is crap.

Still, a win's a win, even when it's an overall loss. Up teh coefficient!

(Zaluska + Loovens = fear, btw)

ailsa, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:23 (fifteen years ago)

lol why did no-one tell me about neil lennon's twitter

cozen, Thursday, 5 August 2010 06:52 (fifteen years ago)

Bugger!
32 minutes ago via TweetCaster

cozen, Thursday, 5 August 2010 06:52 (fifteen years ago)

Still, we're going to rip The erse out of this Europa league!
30 minutes ago via TweetCaster

cozen, Thursday, 5 August 2010 06:53 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, fucking wank-socks!
2:31 PM Jul 28th via TweetCaster

cozen, Thursday, 5 August 2010 06:53 (fifteen years ago)

mulgrew is even worse than i had previously thought.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 5 August 2010 08:48 (fifteen years ago)

Agreed, and I had previously thought he was fucking gash and shouldn't be seen anywhere near a Celtic team.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 09:19 (fifteen years ago)

he is terribad no doubt

cozen, Thursday, 5 August 2010 09:19 (fifteen years ago)

rofl
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-10881566

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 5 August 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)

Ras fails to turn up shocker

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 13:34 (fifteen years ago)

"his present whereabouts are unknown."

Can't the police work out where Celtic train?

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 13:35 (fifteen years ago)

maybe that's why the game wasn't on the telly last night http://www.smileyslord.com/smileys/ninja-disappearing-smiley.gif

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 5 August 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)

Mr Rasmussen is charged with driving in his Audi car at 43mph in a 30mph area...

This passes for Wild Man behaviour in Denmark

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 August 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/celtic-glasgow-an-werder-profi-niemeyer-interessiert/news/anzeigen_43850.html

Google tells me that says
"Celtic has an eye on Peter Niemeyer by Bundesliga Werder Bremen thrown. The Scottish first division looks after the departure of the last borrowed Cameroonian Landry N'Guemo (AS Nancy) action at the six position. Niemeyer could occupy the position in defensive midfield. "Yes, there is contact with Celtic," Niemeyer's advisers acknowledge Gerd Merheim on demand from Transfermarkt.de."

I thought Biram Kayal was the new improved N'Guemo?

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

no sure about this
http://celticsuperstore.co.uk/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_celtic-69865.jpg

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

             Boruc
Hinkel Caldwell McManus Naylor

vs

           Zaluska 
Cha Loovens Hooiveld Mulgrew

I choose last year :(

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

looks like the snp logo on the left hand side just below the T

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 5 August 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

It's '1888' in squinty futuristic writing from 1974, it looks like shit. I like the colour though.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

yeah calculator writing.

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 August 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

Shirt says "boobs" if you hold it upside dwon

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 August 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

5537637 amirite

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

yeah tis a nice shade of green

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 5 August 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

am no a 317718 am a Tim

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/8889822.stm

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 5 August 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

Interesting wee dilemma for Gers fans:
If Rangers sign Jelavic and Celtic are drawn against Rapid Vienna in the Europa qualifier, Rangers would need Celtic to go through to avoid Jelavic being cup-tied for the Champion's League.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

Surely we can't play Rapid Vienna again

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 August 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

If they go through tonight it's possible :(

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)

Actually their game was on Tuesday so they're already through to tomorrow's draw.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

surely no chance they're buying him? they couldn't afford to give eagles £15k a week - allegedly.

I like the new away strip and think i might buy it. i concede that it is sort of ganting.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 5 August 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

Aye I don't get how they can let Boyd go rather than pay him £20k a week then sign a (reportedly) £3.5m striker when they can't afford Eagles.

Then again, Celtic going out last night = £2m extra for Rangers from UEFA.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

Down to minus £78 million then, surely they can afford to go daft now!

Cannot agree with "Charlie Mulgrew is pure gash and then some" comments enough.

Also, stop it with the fecking midfielder, OK? Though if we're going to turn Joe Ledley into a left back, then maybe another one wouldn't go amiss, especially since we seem to have broken Shaun again.

ailsa, Thursday, 5 August 2010 16:54 (fifteen years ago)

Maribor score. Nightmare.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

shaun has been diabolical since he came back, give or take a couple of games, get him to fuck.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 5 August 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

Maribor score. Nightmare.

20th minute as well, Hibs mirroring Celtic again, get your dough on 2-1.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

I am not that stupid, we'll never score twice. Or once.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

Oh well, that was RONGOPEDIA.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't want to play in europe anyway.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

:( i feel your pain.

i wish there was an i love football just because then i would get away with starting a thread called CELTIC and populating it with responses that were just CELTIC CELTIC CELTIC in bold letters.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 5 August 2010 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

Yogi out

― Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:13 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://www.rickey.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Yogi-Bear-3D.jpg

(stolen from 'up the arse corner')

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Thursday, 5 August 2010 23:58 (fifteen years ago)

Was just reading about about the Europa League draw and came across this:

Liverpool FC and Juventus sealed their passage when the second legs concluded on Thursday evening and are not the only former European Champion Clubs' Cup winners in the Friday's draw, with six holders of the continent's biggest prize preparing to make their bows. Porto are chief among them, with PSV, FC Steaua Bucureşti, Aston Villa FC, Feyenoord and BV Borussia Dortmund completing a stellar lineup.

THEY FORGOT ABOUT US!?!?

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=1510070.html

ailsa, Friday, 6 August 2010 08:15 (fifteen years ago)

Possible ties that might mess up the old coefficient:

Juventus vs Dundee United
Man City vs Motherwell
Celtic vs anyone from Grasshopper, Trabzonspor, Utrecht, AIK, Qarabağ

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 6 August 2010 11:07 (fifteen years ago)

Carrier Bag? They're no Robotnik.

what's this thing about an appeal re Villareal?

Merdeyeux, Friday, 6 August 2010 11:11 (fifteen years ago)

Do we have to get someone from our group then? I couldn't even actually work out their explanation. Ah well. Celtic v anyone anywhere in Europe will mess up the coefficient. I wasn't even joking about hoping we wouldn't get Motherwell (even though I know we can't)

ailsa, Friday, 6 August 2010 11:12 (fifteen years ago)

I think that's how it works, otherwise why are there groups at all?

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 6 August 2010 11:14 (fifteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FK_Qaraba%C4%9F

The club was the first club outside Baku to have won the Azerbaijan Premier League. They are also the most successful Azerbaijani football team in European competition (with 3 continuous wins)

better than us then

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 6 August 2010 11:16 (fifteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Karab8.jpg
A fan with FK Qarabağ bandage.

New merchandising opportunity for Celtic Superstore, a Hoops jakey bandage :)

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 6 August 2010 11:18 (fifteen years ago)

o jeez. That ball where the mouth should be is srsly distressing.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 6 August 2010 11:19 (fifteen years ago)

Celtic vs Utrecht

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 6 August 2010 11:51 (fifteen years ago)

Dundee United vs AEK Athens

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 6 August 2010 11:54 (fifteen years ago)

Odense vs Motherwell

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 6 August 2010 12:01 (fifteen years ago)

Interesting ties. What I mean, I've heard of all of those teams... even Motherwell

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Friday, 6 August 2010 12:02 (fifteen years ago)

hm, three ties in which it's vaguely conceivable that the Scottish team wins. By which I mean they'll run em close, by which I mean they'll get hammered.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 6 August 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

You think Dundee Utd have a chance against AEK? Are they not quite good (by which I mean I have vague memories of them being good an unspecified number of years ago)?

ailsa, Friday, 6 August 2010 12:37 (fifteen years ago)

iirc it was AEK knocking Rangers out of the Champs League that prompted the infamous Chick vs Wattie spat.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 6 August 2010 12:43 (fifteen years ago)

I have a vague sense that they've gotten significantly rubbisher in the past few years, but I don't really know what my basis for that is. It seems they finished their league last season in 4th, 17 points behind winners Panathinaikos, so I guess that sense has some place in reality? My half-memories are most likely still exaggerating in thinking that Utd have a chance, though.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 6 August 2010 12:44 (fifteen years ago)

Just checked - that was 16 years ago o_O

1994/1995
European Cup Rangers 0-1 AEK Athens 24-08-1994
European Cup AEK Athens 2-0 Rangers 10-08-1994

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 6 August 2010 12:44 (fifteen years ago)

Ah, happy days

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Friday, 6 August 2010 12:49 (fifteen years ago)

Aye the only thing that helped with the endless gloom of the 90s was seeing Rangers come up short in Europe.


1995/1996
European Cup Rangers 0-4 Juventus 01-11-1995
European Cup Juventus 4-1 Rangers 18-10-1995

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 6 August 2010 12:53 (fifteen years ago)

o_O

http://www.scotsman.com/celticfc/Carluke-man-jailed-for-making.6461950.jp?
Carluke man jailed for making Cheryl Cole death threats and threatening to blow up Celtic Park

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 6 August 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, I remember reading about that at the time when he made the threats, and wondering why it wasn't really a thing (you'd think NUTTER THREATENS TO BLOW UP CELTIC might be right up the Record's over-reacting street, tbh). Might have been here, might have been on another popular but now-rubbish Celtic-based website though.

ailsa, Friday, 6 August 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6297979,00.html

"Celtic are stepping up their interest in Birmingham forward James McFadden, skysports.com understands."

Not keen on that one, much as I love his occasional heroics for Scotland.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 6 August 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

Least he's not a midfielder, though don't we have enough non-prolific strikers? Can he play left-back, etc?

ailsa, Friday, 6 August 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

I'd say he's closer to midfielder than centre-forward tbh.

This is all smoke and mirrors of course, we'll unveil 1 x goalie, 1 x left back, 1 x centre half, 1 x Robbie Keane and 1 x Craig Bellamy just in time for the Europa deadline :)

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 6 August 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

retroactive swap deal with Fiorentina with Frey, hijack Real's bid for Cole and Arsenal's bid for Mertesacker, and DONE.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 6 August 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)

Don't see why not - we only had 10,000 empty seat for the champs league qualifier so the cash must be flying in. 1000 kid's season tickets will pay Robbie Keane's wages, for a week.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 6 August 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

What with all the money they're saving by cutting back on minimum wage piestand assistants*, we'll be laughing all the way to the pound shop :-)

* don't even know if they pay the one at our bit of the north stand, as I believe it's Lukas Zaluska's kid. No idea how many pies have been dropped.

ailsa, Friday, 6 August 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

ooh look, Rangers players be pulling out of the Scotland squad (Elbows and Webster).

And it looks like Aiden's off to Moscow for reals (and £9.5 million). Cheers for a few good goals, a lot of unrealised potential and the opportunity to yell "OH FFS PASS THE FECKING BALL TO SOMEONE" 8000 times a season. Hopefully the money will go to 1 x left back, 1 x goalie and 1 x Craig Bellamy/Robbie Keane

ailsa, Sunday, 8 August 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)

and 1 x centre half. Hearing rumours that someone (else) might be stupid enough to part with cash money for Glenn Loovens. Hopefully cheerio and thanks for, er, I'll get back to you on that.

ailsa, Sunday, 8 August 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)

I remembered that he went kung fu on a Rangers player's knee once, but looking it up I see it was Edu rather than anyone deserving. Half marks?

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 8 August 2010 18:00 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, was in the shop earlier and clocked a "Rangers knock back Eidur Gudjohnsen" headline. As in "Rangers can't afford Eidur Gudjohnsen's wages, but let's pretend they had an option of saying yes rather than embarrassingly shuffling outof the list of clubs he's being hawked round places on loan". Sunday Mail, obv.

ailsa, Sunday, 8 August 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

Um, should have maybe finished rewriting that before hitting submit, eh?

ailsa, Sunday, 8 August 2010 18:11 (fifteen years ago)

I hear that we've also pulled out of the race for Ibrahimovic. Wouldn't be able to hack it in the physical SPL, innit.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 8 August 2010 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

Fake Paddy McCourt might be onto something.

PaddyMcCourt20

Zaluska's in pieces wondering if he'll ever save a free-kick again. Told him to crack out Boruc's Pope t-shirt to buy himself time! #Celtic about 1 hour ago via Echofon

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Sunday, 8 August 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

Fake Paddy McCourt underestimating the tolerance factor of yr average Celtic fan (well, taking me as yr average Celtic fan).

ailsa, Sunday, 8 August 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

It's nice to be top of the division - even if it is only for one week.

treefell, Sunday, 8 August 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

Frances says Dumbarton are performing like she expected.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Sunday, 8 August 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

Dear the internet: Neil Lennon will not be sacked and replaced by Martin O'Neill. Large amounts of you are mental.

ailsa, Monday, 9 August 2010 18:11 (fifteen years ago)

lol

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

O'neill is a money manager, there's more chance of him being the next Boro manager than Celtic.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

there's more chance of the ailsa/onimo dream team!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

Which left back would be your first signing btw? ;)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

Lee Naylor.

ailsa, Monday, 9 August 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

just reliving the horror of the end of the 2004-5 season on that year's SPL thread, and departure of MON not exactly lamented. Saying that, I'm also getting all excited at the prospects afforded by the brilliant Maciej Zurawski on same thread and bigging up Craig Beattie, so was evidently under influence of drugs for the year.

ailsa, Monday, 9 August 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

Predictor's back up and running, folks. Will try and get a mini-league sorted, unless someone (or general apathy) beats me to it.

ailsa, Friday, 13 August 2010 11:45 (fifteen years ago)

Farewell then, at last, Aiden. I've moaned at your final ball/shot/inability to look up as much as the next entitled season-book waving arsehole but on your day you were an absolute joy to behold. Good luck, and we'll maybe see you again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN-nGDRIduE

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

I bet during the season plenty of you will realise what you're missing now he's off.
You better hope Lennon spends wisely.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 12:52 (fifteen years ago)

Assuming the biscuit tin doesn't get it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 12:52 (fifteen years ago)

Good luck, and we'll maybe see you again.

But hopefully not Maloney-style

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Friday, 13 August 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

Keep Maloney fit and Celtic & Scotland have a really good player.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 12:55 (fifteen years ago)

I bet during the season plenty of you will realise what you're missing now he's off.

I already noted his absence (or the absence of anyone holding the ball) vs FC Braga. Dunno why you'd make that bet though, given that you rated him worth about a quarter of what Spartak paid.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 12:58 (fifteen years ago)

Keep Maloney fit and Celtic & Scotland have a really good player.

By "keep" you mean "get" - he's already limped off this season and we've hardly kicked a ball. At least he made it to October last year.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 12:59 (fifteen years ago)

oh don't get me wrong, i like mcgeady as a player, i just don't think he was worth £9.5m . He still was the most talented player in Scotland, despite his inconsistencies

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 13:09 (fifteen years ago)

I bet during the season plenty of you will realise what you're missing now he's off.

S'alright, we've got plenty other players unwilling or incapable of making the crucial pass at the right time 9 times out of 10.

Pretty much what onimo said generally though. Frustating, but occasionally (too occasionally for my liking) brilliant. I hope Moscow treats him well (I suspect less chance of being beaten up in the street, for starters).

Would give Sami or MAF a go on the wing for now.

ailsa, Friday, 13 August 2010 13:16 (fifteen years ago)

really? can you loan us paddy mccourt then?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

No. There are two wings, and often substitutions. Sorry. Go find your own cheap prodigies in cheap leagues.

ailsa, Friday, 13 August 2010 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

james beattie will score many many fine goals imo

"It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 13 August 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)

Who for though? Cannot see them being able to afford him since they couldn't afford Chris Eagles' mighty wage demands.

ailsa, Friday, 13 August 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

signed for rangers?

"It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 13 August 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6310179,00.html

"It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 13 August 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

soz 2 brake hart

"It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 13 August 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

We'll survive

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Friday, 13 August 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, OK, didn't realise it was a done deal now (BBC not so quick off the mark). First signing for two years. No pressure then.

ailsa, Friday, 13 August 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

he'll do it. would take him ahead of crouch tbrr

"It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 13 August 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

though he's no kevin davies

"It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 13 August 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

Kevin Davies has been linked with a move to Rangers every year since records began. Though I doubt Kevin Davies is aware of this though.

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Friday, 13 August 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

which one was the giant guy?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

Andre

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

lol

ailsa, Friday, 13 August 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Majstorovi%C4%87

^latest rumoured Celtic signing - wiki already says he's at Celtic.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

Jolly good. Can we have a left-back and a goalie now please?

ailsa, Friday, 13 August 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

Almunia for Celtic - heard it all now

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/tamcowan/jumpers.jpg

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

beattie should score a ween of goals up here

cozen, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

One good season in the Championship and another umpteen years ago aside he's hardly been prolific. 2 league goals last year and 7 the year before, 13 in three seasons with Everton. Even if he doubles his scoring rate he won't come close to Boyd's level. I think he'll do well for Rangers but won't be a 25 a season striker.

Didn't know whether to be more embarrassed for him or the laptop loyal at his press conference:
Hack: "So is this the biggest club you've ever played for" ("please please give me a Bigger Than Celtic quote")
Beattie: "uh... well I got a lot of texts from people telling me I'd just signed for the biggest club in the world"
Hack: "hahaha" (scribble scribble)
(something about the challenge of playing for the mighty Gers)
Beattie: "Yes, stepping out for the Biggest Club In Scotland, maybe in Europe..."
Hack: "BINGO YA FUCKIN BEAUTY GET IT RIGHT UP YEES" (scribble scribble wank wank)

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

spl tho innit

hopa dreams (cozen), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

How many 5-15 goals a season past their best strikers have actually come up from the Premier League and scored for fun in the SPL? It doesn't really happen nearly as often as people think.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)

football is still ~voodoo~ to me tho after 20+ years so whudoIkno

xp

hopa dreams (cozen), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)

don't think there's any are there

sutton/hartson/(keane?) did well enough but didn't score for fun, really, flo/bellamy's records good but a little worse

hopa dreams (cozen), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

Sutton was never *that* prolific in England or Scotland and wasn't past his best (£10m move then one bad season at Chelsea before coming to Celtic)
Hartson improved a good bit - from one every two games for Wimbledon & Coventry to two every three for Celtic or thereabouts.
Keane is the best example probably, and even he was still getting a goal every three games for Spurs.

The only player I can think of who better than doubled his scoring record coming to Scotland is Henrik Larsson - who was often played out wide for Feyenoord.

Oh wait, Marco Negri probably had a tenfold increase in goals for the five minutes he could be arsed scoring them.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Negri

More than a goal a game but only made 30 appearances in 4 years lol

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

Negri scored 23 goals in his first ten league games.

o_O

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

didn't he score 27 before christmas? then give up

ridic

hopa dreams (cozen), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

from youtube

Ive known marco and his wife monica for 10 years he did get an eye injury playing squash but thats not what kept him out so long he got an injury in training and picked up a flesh eating bug on his calf and when dick advocat came in he was frozen out he loved scotland and rangers

hopa dreams (cozen), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

I always thought "eye injury playing squash" was code for "punched by team-mate/manager".

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

xp

also yeah fairly sure henrik was a winger (or outside forward) at feyenoord and sutton's record was better than I remember, looking over the wiki page, but granted he was always more the heel in the SAS

hopa dreams (cozen), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

watching a negri compilation right now btw

so many hateful cnuts: durie, cleland, albertz etc

think that's the last time I properly cared about scottish football. rip

hopa dreams (cozen), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

His low-key celebrations were noteworthy - often he felt the need only to exchange a handshake with other players and showed little in the way of facial expressions.

Has anyone ever looked more gutted to score five goals?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8DquCot2ss

(lovely Bergkampesque third btw)

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

(first sentence there was a wikipedia quote)

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

oleg didn't look exactly ecstatic against cameroon, maybe it's a rangers thing

hopa dreams (cozen), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

did at least crack a celebration tho

hopa dreams (cozen), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:23 (fifteen years ago)

I do believe Christian Dailly just got shown two reds for the one incident.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

WTF @ BBC Scotland tonight - preview of the season ahead from... the Ibrox trophy room! Also "Rangers have signed England internationalist James Beattie" - he hasn't been capped for six years! Why did they ever let England internationalist Francis Jeffers go?

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Friday, 13 August 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

Minileague name: ILX SPL league 2010
Password: g8gssjb8

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Saturday, 14 August 2010 06:21 (fifteen years ago)

a Paul Hartley hat trick! Has everyone been out enjoying the games or do we really care so little this season?

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 14 August 2010 16:44 (fifteen years ago)

I was away all day at Blair Drummond with a shitty mobile signal - occasional texts from Ailsa let me know we were top of the league teatime.

Congratulations to Paul Hartley on his stunning etc. Aberdeen have as many new players as Celtic, looks like they're gelling a bit quicker.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Saturday, 14 August 2010 23:28 (fifteen years ago)

*until* teatime

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Saturday, 14 August 2010 23:28 (fifteen years ago)

This is going to end up 6 each again, isn't it...

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Sunday, 15 August 2010 12:42 (fifteen years ago)

There have been enough chances for it but Well's poor finishing and great goalkeeping have kept it to just the five goals so far. Bamba's taking persistent to a whole new level without being booked for it - just runs into the back of anyone with the ball over and over.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Sunday, 15 August 2010 12:52 (fifteen years ago)

Deek's been rubbish. Might explain why he's been making public noises about a new contract.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Sunday, 15 August 2010 12:53 (fifteen years ago)

Miller and Stokes will win most of Hibs points this season - Miller on his game can run a midfield & Stokes is always in the right place. Deek was poor but set up two goals with great crosses - I'd rather have that than e.g. McGeady being great and setting up no goals with no great crosses.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Sunday, 15 August 2010 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

Motherwell looked very good yet contrived to lose a game they controlled for large periods. Still fancy them to make the top six again.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Sunday, 15 August 2010 12:58 (fifteen years ago)

Fair point on Deek. Well should comfortably make the top 6, I reckon top 4.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Sunday, 15 August 2010 13:02 (fifteen years ago)

Has everyone been out enjoying the games or do we really care so little this season?

Sorry, have been in That London, where I watched the Celtic game in a pub with three people (including me!) dancing ecstatically round one tiny telly going "OMG PADDY McCOURT WE LOVE YOU", occasionally remembering to text onimo to remind him that Charlie Mulgrew is still gash, while the rest of the 87 squillion people in the pub got all excited about some London team or other not scoring against some guy that won a stand-off with Shay Given. Or something.

Also, still traumatised from a Scotland team with two ex-St Midden players in it.

ailsa, Sunday, 15 August 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)

Aldo, yr ILX minileague appears to be adding on points from last year an' all.

Which is fine, because I appear to have one single solitary point for this weekend.

Oh, and I saw Murdo McLeod at the airport tonight, he appeared to be waving his family off on holiday or welcoming them back, or something. There was hugging anyway.

ailsa, Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:06 (fifteen years ago)

Thought celtic played alright yesterday. Clean sheet away is always nice. Mccourt is an enigma wrapped in a celtic tap wrapped in a beard. I think I'm getting his name on the back of my shirt. Something I never even did when I was a wean.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:19 (fifteen years ago)

Clean sheet away is always nice.

You say that like it's almost a regular occurrence. Clean sheets away are a 2004 kind of thing, but I'm all for their comeback.

sorprendentemente noioso (onimo), Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)

Inverness is always a terrible place to go (for Celtic, like, I quite like it myself, what with being from there and everything), so clean sheet good, but we did still look like we were doing that giving-teams-a-headstart thing, even if they didn't capitalise on it. We could also have done with an actual centre forward at some point.

I love Paddy McCourt though. I don't wear Celtic shirts, but I would have his name on one if I did.

ailsa, Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)

Not sure it does, as mine looks right. But if it's fucked up then it's the BBC's fault and I'm sure they'll notice think about fixing it puppies at some point.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Monday, 16 August 2010 06:03 (fifteen years ago)

hi dere big beastie centre half!

http://www.dn.se/polopoly_fs/1.833136.1238355480!image/2565877685.jpg_gen/derivatives/article-landscape/2565877685.jpg

ailsa, Monday, 16 August 2010 13:42 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/editor-s-picks/nikica-jelavic-could-go-on-work-to-rule-1.1049022

"Nikica Jelavic could go on work to rule"

"Nikica Jelavic could be ready to down tools"

"Jelavic could “pick up an injury”"

So which is it? Doesn't "working to rule" mean training and playing if selected?

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 11:55 (fifteen years ago)

A Go Slow then - he'd fit in a Rangers for sure then

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 12:02 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/scottishpremier/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/10/08/18/SOCCER_Celtic_Izaguirre.html&TEAMHD=scotspremiership

Celtic manager Neil Lennon has confirmed Honduras left-back Emilio Izaguirre has signed for the club.

A LEFT BACK!

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

We said that about Danny Fox! And Edson Bawheid! (I don't remember saying it about Charlie Mulgrew, right enough...)

I hope it's pronounced like "Es are good" so he has an instant song if he's not rubbish.

ailsa, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

'Spose too much to expect "Izaguirre - Wrath of God" headlines from Daily Record subeditors?

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

Izaguirre = Ees-ah-gear-eh.

Sorry to disappoint :)

scotstvo, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

'E's a geezer, then?

ailsa, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

kinda fear for celtic this season, beattie and weiss seem like much better signings than your lot already :/

do rate hooper though

r|t|c, Thursday, 19 August 2010 11:28 (fifteen years ago)

They've got Vladimir Weiss? Bastards.

It dreamed to Tom D. of the Caucasus (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 August 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Weiss

this is one of my favourite wiki pages

r|t|c, Thursday, 19 August 2010 11:32 (fifteen years ago)

WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY Weiss's performance against the Kiwis in the World Cup, looks like it'll be a good signing for Rangers

Inspector Anthony Slade, Thursday, 19 August 2010 11:35 (fifteen years ago)

Beattie's 2 goals a season for Stoke have certainly got me scared. I know little about Weiss other than that he's a promising talent who graced the Bolton bench. His comments about wanting to follow in Lubo Moravcik's footsteps and play for Celtic will endear him to all of his new supporters.

If they sign Jelavic I'd imagine Kenny Miller and/or Kevin Davis and/or Madjid Bougherra won't see the end of the transfer window at Rangers.

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Thursday, 19 August 2010 12:33 (fifteen years ago)

would imagine it's pretty hard to improve on your goal tally if you're injured half the season then the manager nuts you and banishes you from the first team. was very effective for them the previous season - arguably the main reason they stayed up - and was way too good for the championship before that. if he hasn't let himself go recently beattie will do well in scotland imo.

r|t|c, Thursday, 19 August 2010 12:48 (fifteen years ago)

22 starts last season despite injuries and headbutts.

13 goals in 76 starts over three seasons with Everton when he was in his prime.

I think he's a handful of a player to mark and he'll get his share of goals but he won't match Boyd's tally.

Jelavic looks like going to Rangers btw - omitted from the Rapid team for tonight. He looked a handy player last season against Celtic and Villa (scored in all four games iirc).

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Thursday, 19 August 2010 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

Will be very happy if Steven Davis and/or Kenny Miller and/or Madjid Bougherra go before the end of August.

Am hoping that Weiss is like every other player that euphemistically snubbed a Celtic approach to go to Rangers instead (Adamzcyk, Petric), or indeed the other way round (Loovens, Gravesen). Basically, we all need new scouting policies that aren't "nab whoever the other guy is after". Think John Hartson might be the only decent guy ever to come out of this scenario, tbh.

xpost Jelavic looks a decent signing for them, aye.

ailsa, Thursday, 19 August 2010 13:02 (fifteen years ago)

kinda fear for celtic this season, beattie and weiss seem like much better signings than your lot already

I would like to suggest that, based on tonight's evidence, they will not be better than Efrain Juarez and Beram Kayal. Juarez was immense first half, and the presence of actual midfielders had a very positive effect on Scott Brown. Now if we can actually get a real left back playing at left back rather than Joe Ledley, and a centre half that isn't Glenn Loovens, and a goalie that doesn't give me the fear, we might be on to something.

ailsa, Thursday, 19 August 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

As a great man once said, you can prove anything with facts:


Nikica Jelavić Georgios Samaras
Age 24 Age 25
Career: 159 Apps, 51 Goals (0.32gpg) Career: 253 Apps, 79 Goals (0.31gpg)
Cost: £4.1 million Cost: £1.5 million
Caps: 6 Caps: 38

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Friday, 20 August 2010 12:17 (fifteen years ago)

(also worthy of note is that Sami's spent a lot of time playing wide)

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Friday, 20 August 2010 12:23 (fifteen years ago)

sami's goal was really well taken last night

bela guolaosi (cozen), Friday, 20 August 2010 12:44 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't stop today's Record hotline being full of idiots wanting to sell him and Fortune :-(

Good luck Lee Naylor, who has just signed for Cardiff.

ailsa, Friday, 20 August 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

I would like to suggest that, based on tonight's evidence, they will not be better than Efrain Juarez and Beram Kayal.

gonna resist the temptation to scream LOL DARYL MURPHY at full blast and instead say yeah perhaps i did put that a bit strongly. but i dunno, from afar i'm still getting the cadete-hooijdonk-di canio era good players but rangers will brutally turn them over vibe. do very much hope i'll be proved wrong cos i am no fan of rangers.

r|t|c, Saturday, 21 August 2010 10:21 (fifteen years ago)

I am pretending Darryl Murphy doesn't really exist, and is merely a "oh aye, him" replacement for Chris Killen/Ben Hutchinson.

ailsa, Saturday, 21 August 2010 10:28 (fifteen years ago)

Am hoping Dan Majstorovic is the answer to Rangers' brutal overturning of everything in their wake, and look forward to him punting Kyle Lafferty into row Z first opportunity he gets.

ailsa, Saturday, 21 August 2010 10:29 (fifteen years ago)

was checking pierre's career stats lately

dude could score a goal

bela guolaosi (cozen), Saturday, 21 August 2010 10:30 (fifteen years ago)

I am pretending Darryl Murphy doesn't really exist, and is merely a "oh aye, him" replacement for Chris Killen/Ben Hutchinson.

― ailsa

This seems to be Neil Lennon's strategy too :)

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Saturday, 21 August 2010 11:12 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, playing with no actual centre forwards in the absence of Gary Hooper seems to be paying off (for now). Who needs them anyway?

ESPN pulling in the crowds with Hamilton v Hearts.

ailsa, Saturday, 21 August 2010 11:15 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not getting how Rangers minus Boyd, Thompson, Novo, Beasley, Wilson plus Beattie, Jelovic, Weiss makes them a better prospect for the league this season.

For me it's a question of whether or not Celtic are better than they were under Mowbray - early days yet but I'm tentatively thinking they might be. Juarez and Kayal look like the actual proper passing, running, shooting & tackling midfielders we've been missing for a long time. I still think we've got a striker, a keeper and maybe a centre half to come in.

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Saturday, 21 August 2010 11:17 (fifteen years ago)

First my first prediction of the season already :(

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Saturday, 21 August 2010 11:18 (fifteen years ago)

*Missed* my first

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Saturday, 21 August 2010 11:19 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, losing Wilson means they are a late-bid-for-Bougherra away from playing with a pensioner and Kirk Broadfoot at the back. Not that I quite ever got the Wilson love, but having NO backup at all (given that Broadfoot also backup for Whittaker, so break anyone and they basically have no defence) doesn't scream title assault to me.

Cracking goal from Templeton for Hearts there, btw. Comedy defence and keeper action as well.

ailsa, Saturday, 21 August 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, I missed it by about 30 seconds an' all. Fuck a noon kick-off, really.

xpost

ailsa, Saturday, 21 August 2010 11:24 (fifteen years ago)

I got mine in with about 30 seconds to spare, but I might as well not have bothered. Hamilton are never going to get a consolation goal out of this, are they?

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Saturday, 21 August 2010 11:48 (fifteen years ago)

No. Is that Scott Booth on the punditry panel (have the sound off)? He looks like someone else that I can't quite place (possibly Austin Healy?) His hair looks fake and his face is orange (though that might be my computer, to be fair).

ailsa, Saturday, 21 August 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)

lol, just turned the sound on to hear commentator accidentally claim that Dougie Imrie cost £25m.

ailsa, Saturday, 21 August 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i just think it will come down to mentality rather than simply talent and celtic seem like they might be brittle in comparison. on paper you were better than them last season too.

also disagree that rangers are significantly weaker - weiss is better than beasley, beattie & jelovic look like an upgrade from boyd and novo to me. true enough about any injuries though.

r|t|c, Saturday, 21 August 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

4-0 Hearts, both teams down to ten men (no-one will be at all surprised to find out that the two sent off were Palazuelos and Canning!), Hamilton looking like relegation fodder already.

ailsa, Saturday, 21 August 2010 12:38 (fifteen years ago)

The Hamilton Hearts game was so entertaining I fell asleep before half time...

treefell, Saturday, 21 August 2010 12:39 (fifteen years ago)

Celtic weren't actually that brittle last season, but they failed because trying to play two lightweight midfielders and two wingers stapled to the byline against five SPL cloggers was never going to work as a game-bossing tactic, especially with no settled defence behind them. The addition/retention of a Hartley or a Robson or similar would have made a massive difference. This idea of playing non-wingy wingers who are actually strikers with three midfielders, one of whom has a licence to go forward at will, seems much more suited.

ailsa, Saturday, 21 August 2010 12:43 (fifteen years ago)

beattie & jelovic look like an upgrade from boyd and novo to me

Don't know enough about Jelavic, but Boyd and Novo pretty much knew what the SPL was about and how to play in it. I think losing both of them will be a huge blow to Rangers. I think they'll miss Kevin Thompson massively, and if they lose Steven Davis as well then a midfield of McCulloch (actually forgot about him as a stand-in centre half, and also forgot they've got Andy Webster back from Dundee United as well), Weiss, Fleckaldinho and Edu isn't going to cause me many sleepless nights (apart from McCulloch-induced nightmares)

ailsa, Saturday, 21 August 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

Hamilton looking like relegation fodder already.

― ailsa

They'll be ok if they bring their promising youths through
http://videocelts.com/2010/08/blogs/five-goal-james-keatings-on-fire-for-youths

"James Keatings made his first youth team appearance of the season as Celtic’s youth side demolished Hamilton Accies at 8-0 at the Barrafield."

:)

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Saturday, 21 August 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

Think Hamilton will probably be ok tbh - didn't they have a similarly shit start last year?

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Saturday, 21 August 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

Can't remember, tbh. I hope they stay up, because that means more likely that ICT will go straight back down again. I would fear for a Mixu-helmed Killie though.

ailsa, Saturday, 21 August 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

They had a shocking start


Hamilton 2009/2010 results and fixtures
Scottish Premier Kilmarnock 3-0 Hamilton 15-08-2009
Scottish Premier Hamilton 0-3 Aberdeen 22-08-2009
Scottish League Cup Ross County 2-1 Hamilton 25-08-2009
Scottish Premier Rangers 4-1 Hamilton 29-08-2009
Scottish Premier Hamilton 2-0 Hibernian 13-09-2009

I would fear for a Mixu-helmed piss-up in a brewery.

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Saturday, 21 August 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

Only putting 2 past Hibs, that *is* shocking (sorry aldo!)

ailsa, Saturday, 21 August 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

First Celtic player on the scoresheet as Graham Carey scores for Huddersfield.

ailsa, Saturday, 21 August 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/3105632/Arsenal-eye-Juarez-after-four-games.html

(journo seems to think we're playing St Mirren today, so A+ research and journalistic credentials)

ailsa, Saturday, 21 August 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

I suppose Arsene forgot to watch Mexico when he was at the World Cup.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 21 August 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

Load of old bollocks - still World Cup 'star' + long contract + Champs League goals = £wonga. We are all about the resale value these days but it would be nice to get a couple of seasons out of them first.

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Saturday, 21 August 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

Internet also rumouring that Glenn Loovens is going away back to Wales to shore up the Cardiff defence alongside Nayls. Bye! Hopefully someone else coming in because thus far Jos Hooiveld doesn't walk it like he talks it at all, Rogne is good but perma-knacked, and Josh Thompson, if he still exists, makes Gary Caldwell look like Usain Bolt.

ailsa, Saturday, 21 August 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

Allan McGregor been taking cheating lessons from Vile Lafferty as he attempts to get Derek Riordan sent off.

ailsa, Sunday, 22 August 2010 11:52 (fifteen years ago)

Jesus, the is one bad-tempered game. Lafferty is a pure arsehole.

ailsa, Sunday, 22 August 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)

I was just coming on to post that. xpost about Scotland's Top Stopper.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Sunday, 22 August 2010 11:59 (fifteen years ago)

Hibs red card a bit soft, tbh (see also Derek Riordan booking for making Allan McGregor feign injury)

ailsa, Sunday, 22 August 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

Rewatching the red cards, there's no way McBride should have gone. On the other hand, Lafferty is pure mental ned violence on stupid gangly legs.

ailsa, Sunday, 22 August 2010 12:11 (fifteen years ago)

I'm pretty happy with the start to the season for Raith.
Of course going it alone at top of the table after beating your biggest derby rivals and scoring 8 goals in the first three matches is about as good a start to a season as I can remember!
I think it should be an interesting game midweek against Hamilton.

treefell, Sunday, 22 August 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

Well done Raith. treefell, when was it you were planning over to Glasgow again? we should definitely try and arrange to have an Scottish Football thread FAP.

I am more than happy with Celtic over the last couple of games. Is weird having nothing to moan about (we've just dispensed with the idea of fullbacks all together). Couldn't even choose a man of the match today out of a good six or seven front runners! (fwiw, I think I've decided it would have been Scott Brown just over MAF.) This new-found optimism is a bit unsettling.

ailsa, Sunday, 22 August 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

I'm tempering my enthusiasm with the knowledge that we'll need actual full-backs against teams that can keep the ball & we've got a really nervous looking goalkeeper. Everything from midfield forwards is looking pretty good and we seem to have found the centre half pairing that makes the fewest mistakes.

Neil Lennon told Radio Scotland they're close to signing a keeper and that it's not Shay Given, that should put that rumour to bed.

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Sunday, 22 August 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

I'm through for the the Wilco gig on the 16th September and I'm staying overnight after the gig so I might be able to hang around town on the Friday too.

treefell, Sunday, 22 August 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

Keeper is Fraser Forster, Newcastle's third-choice keeper. He's 6'7". And he isn't Lukas Zaluska.

Teams won't get to keep the ball because our new winning midfield will never let them have it for long enough. Keep the faith, man!

ailsa, Sunday, 22 August 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

Hearing that bobby zamora may be our new number 7.
about 5 hours ago via TweetDeck

I should really stop fishing around the net for rumours and just wait and see what happens.

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Monday, 23 August 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

Oh man, stop it! I'm trying not to believe the theory that we've signed a cheapo left back and a cheapo goalie because we're saving all the money for a shiny exciting #7, but then people keep flinging vaguely credible theories as to who they might be saving the jersey for and I get all excited again. Will be glad when it's next Tuesday night, tbh, and James McFadden is not our new number 7 the madness ends until January.

ailsa, Monday, 23 August 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

forster's meant to be excellent by all accounts. if i was in charge i'd plonk the ~£3m down for keiren westwood and be sorted for the next four + years though - is there some sort of young goalkeeping megatalent celtic are keeping the gloves warm for or is it just short-term thinking?

r|t|c, Monday, 23 August 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

If there is megatalent around, they're hiding him behind Dominic Cervi, so assume it is short-termism enough to win the league and get back into the Champions League again and allow us a bit more spending power to improve. Neil Lennon spent his career at Celtic with Rab Douglas standing behind him and they did alright, so I'm guessing he's working on the assumption that if the ten guys in front of him are great, the keeper just needs to be OK. Still doesn't stop the involuntary shudders whenever the ball goes near Zaluska though...

ailsa, Monday, 23 August 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

As I think I said to Ailsa at the game, Zaluska's no worse a keeper than Rab Douglas, but his belief in his own ability to deal with back passes bears no resemblance to the reality. The defenders need to be told to use the back pass as a last resort rather than treating him as a fellow footballer.

Forster looks a prospect and I'm happy he's coming but I'd much rather have a permanent first choice goalie the manager believes in.

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Monday, 23 August 2010 16:43 (fifteen years ago)

The defenders need to be told to use the back pass as a last resort rather than treating him as a fellow footballer.

Truthiest of truthbombs. I believe I may have suggested the excessive use of the Loovens/Zaluska one-two as an effective laxative.

ailsa, Monday, 23 August 2010 16:51 (fifteen years ago)

hamilton sign jimmy floyd hasselbaink's nephew

cozémon (cozen), Monday, 23 August 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

haha, OMG, there are people on the internet who want us to sell MAF and replace him with Chris Eagles. Transfer window needs slamming shut ASAP.

ailsa, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

So the Rovers beat Hamilton - I did say I thought it would be an interesting match.

treefell, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

Ooh, congratulations! (and commiserations to pfunk, obv)

ailsa, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

Stokes to Celtic done and dusted according to some Internet rumour-mongers.

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:14 (fifteen years ago)

Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Cheaper than what we paid for Daryl Murphy, to basically be Daryl Murphy when we already have a Daryl Murphy that we paid a Daryl Murphy sized fee for. Yippee.

ailsa, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:21 (fifteen years ago)

He's almost a goal a game in Scotland but was nearer a goal a team in England. I'd happily put him in front of Murphy in the queue of bench warmers.

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

OK, so he's Chris Killen then :-)

ailsa, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:26 (fifteen years ago)

This is more a criticism of Daryl Murphy (well, of his signing) than of Stokes, btw.

ailsa, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:27 (fifteen years ago)

ooft
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-11084526

cozen, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 13:14 (fifteen years ago)

Fortune picked last night then sold this morning wtf is going on?

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Friday, 27 August 2010 12:52 (fifteen years ago)

Waah. RIP big man, heaven (well, West Brom) needed someone to squish wee dudes just by leaning in their direction. Like Lee Naylor, I liked you even when no-one else did (except when you were rubbish).

This had better not be leading up to the unveiing of Anthony bloody Stokes, btw.

Just read in the Herald about Craig Brown punching someone last night. Way to go, old man!

ailsa, Friday, 27 August 2010 13:07 (fifteen years ago)

Stokes is coming, as far as anyone anywhere on the Internet and seemingly in the know knows.

Aye heard on the radio that Brown punched someone in retaliation to a shove - hopefully it's on youtube. More fight in him than our lot that's for sure.

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Friday, 27 August 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

Stokes is coming

Whoo and indeed hoo. lol at everyone who thought the removal of Strachan and Mowbray would stop the procession of Hibees in the Celtic Park revolving door (me included, btw).

ailsa, Friday, 27 August 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

New left back looks happy :-/

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48903000/jpg/_48903361_emilio466.jpg

Also this: "I will put the effort in during training every day and play each match with Celtic as if it's the last game of my life."

Carry on like the last few incumbents of the left back slot and we'll all be wishing it is the last game of your life, mate :-)

btw, I've worked out what is creepy about Joe Ledley. He looks like *that* picture of Anthony Hutton from Big Brother.

ailsa, Saturday, 28 August 2010 12:25 (fifteen years ago)

Seriously, that photo's great. It's almost like he KNOWS that jersey is cursed.

ailsa, Saturday, 28 August 2010 12:25 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, and for fellow lazy predictors:

Due to technical problems with our log-in system for The Predictor, the game is unavailable this week.

Some players had entered scores before the system locked everyone out. So that no-one has an unfair advantage, no points will be awarded this week. We are extremely sorry to interrupt your enjoyment of the game. Please come back next week when the new log-in system will be in place

ailsa, Saturday, 28 August 2010 12:36 (fifteen years ago)

Saves me having to try and muster some enthusiasm for Celtic's defensive capabilities and zero strikers :-)

ailsa, Saturday, 28 August 2010 12:37 (fifteen years ago)

Hamilton 1-0 up on Caley after 40 seconds, Dougie Imrie scoring before Caley even touched the ball :-O

ailsa, Saturday, 28 August 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

Some players had entered scores before the system locked everyone out. So that no-one has an unfair advantage, no points will be awarded this week.

Fuckers, I got mine on on Monday. What about the unfair advantage everyone else gets when I forget to put mine on?

Accies on a charge. Fastest goal of the season.

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Saturday, 28 August 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

Probably been watching that fastest-spl-goal-ever Anthony Stokes clip some clowns are wheeling out on the internet to justify his imminent arrival as Celtic's saviour :-(

ailsa, Saturday, 28 August 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

You're not stoked for his arrival then?

I'm of the opinion he'll score lots of goals for us and that that is a good thing.

Still pondering over the wisdom of this whole Fortune thing. Lennon's moaning about guys not throwing their bodies on the line for the team then selecting a guy who obviously won't do so as he's leaving in the morning and doesn't want e.g. a broken leg to prevent the move.

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Saturday, 28 August 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

Not exactly, no. I don't get the MAF thing either. Bit of an eff-you to Darryl Murphy an' all, if Lenny'll let a guy with his feet out the door on in front of a guy he actually paid cash money for. I was all for MAF starting, he was part of the in-form team from the weekend, after all, but when he's rolling up in the Midlands 12 hours later, then not so sure it was a good idea.

Morten Rasmussen's just scored again for Mainz, btw.

lol 1-0 to Super Saintee Johnstones at Ipox :-)

ailsa, Saturday, 28 August 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

celticrumours Samaras looking likely to be playing in Spain as of Wednesday.
7 minutes ago via web

Is "no strikers" the Glasgow Celtic way?

ailsa, Saturday, 28 August 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

Ah well, Sasa Papac ruins the dream, for now. 1-1.

ailsa, Saturday, 28 August 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

Stokes is a striker iirc

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Saturday, 28 August 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

Stokes and Daryl murphy as our only available frontmen come Wednesday if we're daft enough to part with a reported 4 million for the former by then? God give me strength.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 28 August 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

1 million is a more likely figure

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Saturday, 28 August 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

We haven't signed him yet (haven't sold Sami either, tbf). Could do with some more back-up as well as hoofing everyone out the door.

Anthony Stokes, aged 18:

"Anthony didn't sleep the night after learning that Celtic had an offer accepted [last week]. We thought it was a done deal," the player's father and advisor, John, said on Sunday. "He loves Celtic and was prepared to accept less money to play for them. When he gets up in the morning he listens to Celtic songs and by the time he goes to bed at night he's watched Celtic videos." Yet there was only so much less money he was willing to accept. It is understood Celtic offered a deal worth " only" £8,000 a week.

None of your crawling-over-broken-glass nonsense here, eh?

xposts

ailsa, Saturday, 28 August 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

Ryan Conroy, who was on our bench on Thursday, has just scored for Queen of the South. Squad depth, hurrah!

ailsa, Saturday, 28 August 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

No Juarez or Kayal. Murphy up front. Long day expected, should have gone to the boozer.

always be cozen (onimo), Sunday, 29 August 2010 10:38 (fifteen years ago)

Bench:
Zaluska Kayal Juarez McCourt Ki Towell Hooiveld

^I'd fancy that lot vs our starting XI dunno wtf Lennie's thinking with this selection.

always be cozen (onimo), Sunday, 29 August 2010 10:44 (fifteen years ago)

arrgh, was just about to switch on. Have massive fear (and no booze in the house).

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 10:47 (fifteen years ago)

Do not need to see semi-naked Motherwell players, kthanxbye

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 10:53 (fifteen years ago)

"It's as simple as that"

GET ONE NEW PHRASE BURLEY YOU COCK

Maloney misses (another) sitter :(

always be cozen (onimo), Sunday, 29 August 2010 11:07 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, OK, I'll stop giving Darryl Murphy a hard time based on reputation (and Lennon's reluctance to play him), that was a decent move and effort.

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 11:11 (fifteen years ago)

wtf with the Craig Brown love-in, "one of Scotland's most prominent septuagenarians* now that Sean Connery is an octogenarian" also "lololol you prankster, you punched a man in the face lololol".

* alongside Davie Weir, obv

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 11:14 (fifteen years ago)

Majstorovic is struggling to mark Motherwell + Glenn Loovens. Good luck big man.

always be cozen (onimo), Sunday, 29 August 2010 11:17 (fifteen years ago)

wtf with the Craig Brown love-in, "one of Scotland's most prominent septuagenarians* now that Sean Connery is an octogenarian" also "lololol you prankster, you punched a man in the face lololol".

vs
Just read in the Herald about Craig Brown punching someone last night. Way to go, old man!

― ailsa, Friday, 27 August 2010

FITE

always be cozen (onimo), Sunday, 29 August 2010 11:19 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not supposed to be an impartial broadcaster. But whatever.

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)

Do not want manager interviews mid-match. Would like to see them being all "lolol you punched someone" if Johann does it to their trackside reporter.

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 11:40 (fifteen years ago)

Hey, commentators, can you maybe mention 2005 some more?

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

Saunders off, straight red, penalty. Who takes them now Sami's off?

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 12:29 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, OK, Murphy. Nice one (bit stoppy-starty, cheers for momentary fear, mate...)

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 12:30 (fifteen years ago)

dear ESPN, there is a game on. I would like to watch it. Cheers.

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 12:31 (fifteen years ago)

God, the size of the gap that opened up round Paddy there...let's exploit that man advantage, aye?

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

Three points and a clean sheet. I'll take that after Thursday, ta.

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

Have just flicked over to Sky Sports 4 to see our new saviour of the forward line (what forward line?) against St Mirren.

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 13:06 (fifteen years ago)

Thought Murphy and Maloney were decent (and Paddy when he got one) but were playing like they had a player in the middle to knock their hard worked efforts into the net for them, except there wasn't one. Several chances went a-begging. An actual centre-forward would be ace. Would have preferred one while we were still in Europe, but since we aren't and all we have to win is the SPL, Stokes'll do me for now (if he's not bought with big visible Scott-Brown-esque pricetag to hang him with if it doesn't work out). Would have settled for Sandaza or Cadamarteri, both available on frees from Dundee Utd at the moment - cheaper and also able to score in the SPL, since I'm guessing Hooper is going to be the main guy when he comes back.

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 13:16 (fifteen years ago)

God, Sky are in on this interviewing managers during the game thing as well. Stop it!

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

"I'm not supposed to be an impartial broadcaster. But whatever.

― ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 12:23 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink"

Is this the exact opposite of "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"? If you agree with them and think it's funny (like me, I mean come on: 70 year-old manager punching random foreign dignitary is up there with Jim McLean whacking random journo) why can they not say it out loud?

That said, I'm fairly sure Neil Lennon punching an oppo's director of football wouldn't have brought the same reaction.

always be cozen (onimo), Sunday, 29 August 2010 22:16 (fifteen years ago)

Precisely because they wouldn't think it was funny if it was Neil Lennon, it was annoying me same as the elevation of Craig Brown to national treasure status was annoying me. Because trivial things annoy me when I'm hungover on a Sunday morning. Also I am occasionally paranoid, and frequently hypocritical, and like to use this thread as an outlet for my random illogical thoughts, which vary according to all manner of circumstance.

That's all.

ailsa, Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:56 (fifteen years ago)

oh look I posted here last night o_O

Think I better keep away from the "My recent posts" button.

Stokes reportedly having a medical and set to complete his switch to Celtic for something more than the £800k we initially offered, presumably not much above £1m.

I'm coming round to the view of the 'Sami Out' campaigners.

always be cozen (onimo), Monday, 30 August 2010 12:18 (fifteen years ago)

Oh well, hi dere Anthony Stokes. Bucketloads of goals, plz.

I like Sami, but would like him better if he would turn it on more often. Also if someone could work out what to do with him and where to play him. "Somewhere that isn't Celtic" possibly the answer, which is a shame, because on his game, he's brilliant. Which is, regrettably, about twice a season (and usually only against Kilmarnock).

ailsa, Monday, 30 August 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)

In a rare moment of OTMness (even a broken clock etc) Craig Burley described Sami as being all "smoke and mirrors" - coming deep and looking involved and keen and full of effort etc but not actually achieving anything at the business end of the pitch. The more I think about it the more I agree, even if Sami has chipped in a couple of goals and assists recently.

Burley's still a dick though, it's as simple as that.

always be cozen (onimo), Monday, 30 August 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

Hearts vs Hibernian just listed as a world famous football derby on Only Connect. 'Old Firm' didn't make the cut.

always be cozen (onimo), Monday, 30 August 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

no one told me Only Connect was back!!!!

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Monday, 30 August 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

Me neither!

ailsa, Monday, 30 August 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

I keep thinking these are my posts in here, onimo u berk, and I'm like wait was I drunk last night and didn't know it and then posted lots in the spl thread?

xp id gi (cozen), Monday, 30 August 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

I keep thinking it's you as well, tbh.

ailsa, Monday, 30 August 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

haven't ~properly~ cared abt football since 97/98 I don't think

jozam djinn (cozen), Monday, 30 August 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, not on this thread :-)

ailsa, Monday, 30 August 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

Players' Player of the Year Jackie McNamara Celtic
Young Player of the Year Gary Naysmith Heart of Midlothian

sounds about right

jozam djinn (cozen), Monday, 30 August 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

ha I don't even care abt the EPL/serie A/la liga/etc, still follow but just barely and not w/any intent

jozam djinn (cozen), Monday, 30 August 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

sorry :)

(it was this Only Connect on BBC4 - repeat of last year's semi-final http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00lskhg )

New series starts on next Monday.

onimo, Monday, 30 August 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

ha np, only ever watched one only connect (the first one) and was so bamboozled I never watched another

is it actually worth watching? do like a good quiz show obv (eggheads/uni challi)

jozam djinn (cozen), Monday, 30 August 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

Goody good. Something to warm the brains up before watching University Challenge.

xpost, is annoyingly smart-arsed. Eggheads is *not* a good quiz show.

ailsa, Monday, 30 August 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

that's my level :'''(

jozam djinn (cozen), Monday, 30 August 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

I like the format of Eggheads but frequently want to inflict violence on the smug bastards.

Only Connect is quite hard & also v satisfying when you do well.

Uni challenge is mostly too hard though I got four in a row correct tonight, on Dr Who themes :)

onimo, Monday, 30 August 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

I watch University Challenge and Only Connect with a friend and we are so sad that we compete and keep scores. I'm three in a row on University Challenge! But I don't think I've ever won Only Connect due to her crazy linguistic skills meaning when it comes to the final round she gets every answer immediately. :'(

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Monday, 30 August 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

aye but what's ur eggheads head-to-head

jozam djinn (cozen), Monday, 30 August 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

I got tons on University Challenge tonight, like LOADS*. There's an Only Connect game on the BBC website, and I got about six out of the first twenty walls completed - some I couldn't even get one line out of it in time :-(

I think what I hate most about Eggheads the way that Dermot/Jeremy keep reinforcing the smugness of the Eggheads by going on about how they are unbeatable superbrains that mere mortals cannot beat. Except that tons of people have excellent general knowledge, they just don't ever appear to go on Eggheads, instead you get people who think that Andy Warhol was a 19th century impressionist and stuff like that.

When I was off sick last week, I discovered that Challenge TV does re-runs of 15 to 1 in the afternoons. Now *that's* a quiz show. See that guy that got the maximum ever score on that? Some smart bastards brought him in as a ringer in our local pub quiz once. AND WE BEAT THEM :-)

* I use my braincells to store trivia and not to pay any attention to whether Samaras is any good or not, obv

ailsa, Monday, 30 August 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

family fortunes > eggheads > the weakest link >>>> uni challi >>>>> > 15 to 1 > mastermind

: P

jozam djinn (cozen), Monday, 30 August 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

I like the Weakest Link. I wish they still had Weakest Link pub quiz machines, they are the only ones I've ever won the jackpot on. Both pubs removed the machine the week after I won it :-(

ailsa, Monday, 30 August 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

I see Jelavic is so highly rated and amazing that Rapid Vienna have had to replace him with, er, Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink.

ailsa, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 08:29 (fifteen years ago)

Old Firm will join the Premier League - Dermot Desmond

DD comes out of hiding to throw us a fuckin bone on transfer deadline day. How's about throwing us a centre half and a new #7 instead?

(also BBC right up to speed there with a photo of Cardiff's Lee Naylor)

onimo, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)

Yobo's gone to Fenerbahce, so that's one rumour shot down right there. Not really expecting anything exciting until the English window shuts and a whole bunch of players find themselves dunted out of their squads. And even then, I'm not expecting anything exciting.

ailsa, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

I shouldn't really be disappointed with signing an entire team but then it's hardly a convincing one and we've let a better one go in the last year.
Best goallie ever sold - replaced with Newcastle 3rd choice
£9m for Aiden - banked
£2.6m for Fortune - more than half banked, rest spent on Stokes (who previously knocked us back in favour of failing in England)

I think we're close to £10m in profit on summer deals and have significantly cut the wages. What happened to "every penny will be spent on the team"?

onimo, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Helicopter just swooped over my building heading east. That'll be Darren Huckerby finally sealing a dream move.

onimo, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

Probably going to pick up Dermot Desmond and take him away before he's lynched.

ailsa, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 17:20 (fifteen years ago)

Am hearing Ricky Foster to Rangers, with Andrius Velicka going to Pittodrie in return. It's like Willo Flood groundhog day.

ailsa, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 17:45 (fifteen years ago)

Also, in all the excitement, I notice we've got Caley Thistle in the league cup. Draw other teams! Raith get the chance to knock out the Sheepies again, Scottish Cup final replay with Ross County vs Dundee Utd, Mixu gets to show the Hibees what they're missing ("not a lot" is my guess), and hopefully Dunfermline will bring back the glory days of the Le Guen revolution by scudding Rangers.

Full draw:

Rangers v Dunfermline
Kilmarnock v Hibernian
Aberdeen v Raith Rovers
Falkirk v Heart of Midlothian
Celtic v Inverness Caledonian Thistle
Ross County v Dundee Utd
St Johnstone v Queen of the South
Brechin City v Motherwell

ailsa, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

Ricky Foster to Ibrox is a thing, with Andrius Velicka going the other way, on a season-long swap deal (you what now?)

David Tanner tells us that this is a good thing for Rangers as their main priority was a utility player. And we think Celtic have low aspirations in this window!

ailsa, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 17:59 (fifteen years ago)

More gubbins from Sky Sports News: Scott Severin to Dundee United, and Casalinuovo of Dundee United going to Hamilton.

ailsa, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

Three and a half hours before we continue the season without a #1 or a #7. Well done Celtic. I look forward to cheering on the balance sheet from my increasingly-not-feeling-like-value-for-money seat.

ailsa, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

STAND UP FOR THE SLIGHTLY REDUCED DEBT!

HAIL HAIL THE DEBTS ARE PAID!

WE DON'T CARE IF WE WIN, LOSE OR DRAW (AS LONG AS THE CEO GETS HIS BONUS)!

onimo, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

See you next Saturday then :-)

ailsa, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

Aye I'll to Stokesed for the madness.

onimo, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

Presume there's a shortage of iron-on 1s and 7s in the club shop (hence also apparently locking number 17 Marc Crosas in a cupboard).

ailsa, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

Hibs new blokey Jonathan Grounds: "I'm keen to get playing for Hibernian," Grounds told the Hibs website. "It looks like an exciting league and a great club to be part of."

Um, OK then...

ailsa, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

Still, good to see one bloke reversing the trend for SPL -> Middlesbrough. Hibs have also signed some dude called Francis Dickoh from Utrecht (didn't play against us).

Presume there's a shortage of iron-on 1s and 7s in the club shop (hence also apparently locking number 17 Marc Crosas in a cupboard).

Cupboard opened, Crosas papped off in the direction of Greece, possibly.

So what happens with all the dudes left out of the 25-man squads? Can people borrow them?

David Tanner on Sky Sports News claiming that Kenny Miller might be off to top up his tan in the Middle East somewhere. No clubs mentioned.

ailsa, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

that was quite an uneventful final day of the transfer window. shame kenny misser didn't get a move anywhere. glad sammy stuck around as well, cult hero (obviously the only people interested in him were herculés and they must have forgotten about him post-trezeguet).

"the mcgeady money will be reinvested". Well, about a tenth of it maybe.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)

Kenny still on for a move to the unnamed club in the unnamed country in the Middle East as their transfer window doesn't shut for another fortnight.

ailsa, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 09:19 (fifteen years ago)

so not gonna happen

onimo, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

Well, duh, hence why this interest isn't actually from anyone. But now Rangers can claim success in holding onto their top (only?) asset, if anyone actually believes a word coming out of David Tanner's gob.

ailsa, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 11:59 (fifteen years ago)

I still don't think he'll sign a new deal meaning he'll be off soon or will run his contract down and be another valuable asset leaving for nothing (see Boyd, K.). Not that Walter Nosurname will give a shit as it's his last year anyway.

onimo, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 12:02 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, weren't they offering him a reduced salary despite him finally coming good on the prolific scoring thing after a zillion years of earning the "misser" tag? Presumably this will allow them to go "look! interest in him!" when they try to hook him in January (if his legs hold out until then).

I'm sure Wattie will be uncaring, but the bank might not be so cavalier with the free and easy attitude towards repaying their debt.

(note, I am v. concerned with Rangers repaying their debt, not so much with Celtic maintaining their healthy balance sheet, such are the vagaries of being totally biased)

ailsa, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

Here is a nice article in the Guardian, excusing (a minority of) Rangers fans for breaking Manchester, assaulting police officers and ending up on Crimewatch. It wasn't their fault, you see. It was the pubs' fault for not having enough drink, and TV repairmen for not working through a riot.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/sep/01/rangers-fans-manchester-united-wigan

This hack might want to have a wee chat with public officials in, say, Barcelona or Villarreal if he thinks it was just because of a broken telly.

I do love the idea that people might just go on the train to Wigan, sit in a stadium to watch the game, then go home again though. It's like a holiday!

ailsa, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

The Rangers supporters who rioted could have stayed at home and watched the game on TV, but instead they were encouraged to travel and attend a sort of city centre party where the match would be shown. And then it wasn't.

So not true. City of Manchester Police released numerous YOU ARE NOT WELCOME statements and only attempted to set up viewing zones when it became apparent everyone was ignoring them.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 16:29 (fifteen years ago)

And, just before that:

Perhaps that does not excuse rioting and vandalism

Perhaps?

ailsa, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

Cowboy vs Accies: FITE

" As they went into the dressing room, Mr McCormack said "get your tackle out lads, Jillian's coming to see who's got the biggest tadger".

Mr McCormack decided to take a shower before boarding the team bus home. At that stage Miss Galloway was in a corner of the dressing room. She felt uncomfortable at being there and was pretending to attend to things in her treatment bag. Mr McCormack went over and undressed in front of her. He returned to the same spot after his shower and dressed there."

^not grounds for lawful dismissal

" Before the final match against Dundee United, Mr McCormack gave a team talk in the dressing room. Both Mr McAvoy and Miss Galloway were present. Mr McCormack told the players "this is like the wee tickly bit before you come". He then added words to the effect "even Jillian is excited - look how hard her nipples are".

just o_O

pissky in the jar (onimo), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2010/09/celtic-if-you-know-history.html

Very interesting blog, and thoroughly depressing.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

Just been reading through that as and when I get the chance this morning. Am off to go and sob pathetically in a corner for the rest of the afternoon now.

ailsa, Thursday, 2 September 2010 11:41 (fifteen years ago)

SO, the team for tonight. No Faddy, no Dorrans. A right back at left back (which is good, because Scottish leftbacks = Charlie Mulgrew and Danny McFox = Do Not Want). Lee sodding McCulloch. Let the madness commence!

ailsa, Friday, 3 September 2010 10:18 (fifteen years ago)

I'd resigned myself to losing this but I'm beginning to think Faddy out + Naismith playing with Miller might give us a decent chance on the counter attack rather than relying on a wee bit of magic from McFadden.

I'll be recording this tonight and ignoring all texts then watching it on fast forward through my fingers at midnight.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:42 (fifteen years ago)

it's times like these that i'm glad i don't really care all that much about the national team.

mediocre squad, full of Rangers players. really not confident of a victory at all and wouldn't be ultra-surprised at a defeat. i will actually watch the game, since i'm not working, have been working for maybe the last 3 or 4 Scotland games so it's been a long time since i had the dubious pleasure of watching them play.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:43 (fifteen years ago)

ignoring all texts

OK, will direct spleen-venting/ridiculous YAY-ing to someone else then :-)

ailsa, Friday, 3 September 2010 10:47 (fifteen years ago)

"Davie Weir is probably the best centre-back we have got at this time," said Levein.

I swear I read this exact thing 20 years ago.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:49 (fifteen years ago)

Scotland's away record since beating Iceland in September 2008:


28 March 2009 Netherlands 0–3
12 August 2009 Norway 0–4
10 October 2009 Japan 0–2
14 November 2009 Wales 0–3
11 August 2010 Sweden 0–3

P5 L5 F0 A15

wur aw doomed!

pissky in the jar (onimo), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:50 (fifteen years ago)

"Davie Weir is probably the best centre-back we have got at this time," said Ally MacLeod.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:51 (fifteen years ago)

Pathetic I know, but I'm not watching this game for the simple(-minded) reason that there are far too many Rangers and ex-Rangers players involved

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:52 (fifteen years ago)

... also cannot be arsed traipsing round London on a Friday night trying to find a pub that'll show a Scotland game

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:55 (fifteen years ago)

With the size of the Rangers squad and impending champs league midweekers I'm quite happy for them to be involved as much as possible. That way "Scotland's best defender" (© Tommy Docherty, 1971) might not see the season out.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:58 (fifteen years ago)

I'm always surprised the man Andy Beattie once called Scotland's most promising youngster manages to see out the week.

I never realised VNV Nation sounded like the Pet Shop Boys before (aldo), Friday, 3 September 2010 11:04 (fifteen years ago)

Similarly do not understand various Celtic fans on other internets saying "why hasn't he picked Shaun Maloney" - we have enough trouble keeping him unbroken here without sending him half way round the world to break things.

xpost

ailsa, Friday, 3 September 2010 11:13 (fifteen years ago)

Agreed, but why hasn't he?

pissky in the jar (onimo), Friday, 3 September 2010 12:25 (fifteen years ago)

because he knows he'd break down after 20 minutes? No idea, tbh.

ailsa, Friday, 3 September 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

Celtic allegedly chasing Danny Shittu who made a grand total of 0 appearances for Bolton last season :/

pissky in the jar (onimo), Friday, 3 September 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

TS: Shittu vs Scheidt

I never realised VNV Nation sounded like the Pet Shop Boys before (aldo), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

This would only be good because of the sweary-word filter on Kerrydale Street forum which had this rumour on it yesterday as Danny Shampootu, which made me laugh (same filter which had us signing Gary Hooper from Scarrothorpe).

Otherwise, meh.

ailsa, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

Bleh, being Scottish is rubbish. We were basically OK up as far as the front, but bloody hell Stevie Naismith was so not the answer to whatever the question was.

ailsa, Saturday, 4 September 2010 10:01 (fifteen years ago)

Fancy fannydangling SPL last week, as Skoosh, David Wotherspoon, Steven Davis AND Paul Hartley all get featured on Soccer AM's showboating. I didn't even know Paul Hartley was capable of fannydangle!

ailsa, Saturday, 4 September 2010 10:30 (fifteen years ago)

Been chatting to my dad, we decided the question was "so who can I pick ahead of Shaun Maloney who would have been a better provider for Kris Boyd who would have been a better option than Kenny Miller at some stage, and would also have been better at free kicks after we realised Barry Robson was never going to do anything with any of them?"

I am glad Shaun Maloney didn't go from a Celtic point of view, as he'd have been kicked black and blue, but Scotland could really have done with him. Was surprised at no Dorrans at any stage either, is he not quite useful?

ailsa, Saturday, 4 September 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)

Faddy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naismith, btw.

ailsa, Saturday, 4 September 2010 11:28 (fifteen years ago)

by the second half I couldn't pay attention to anything other than John Robertson mentioning 'that little bit of quality' every thirty seconds. I don't know what gave the worse feeling of abyssal vertigo, that or the fans singing Flower of Scotland a third faster than it was being played.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 4 September 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

McGregor, Hutton, Weir, McManus, Wallace, McCulloch, Brown, D Fletcher, McFadden, Miller, Boyd

At least we're not going ultra-defensive against the might of Liechtenstein. Major trip to offie required on the way home tomorrow nonetheless.

ailsa, Monday, 6 September 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

Levein defends defensiveness, while failing to notice some middle ground between playing lots of positive players and not playing any:

“There are reasons for saying that the way to get results is through solidity. Everybody assumes that if you put James McFadden, Charlie Adam, Kris Boyd and Graham Dorrans in your team then you are going to win. People say ‘well, it’s obvious, if you put all these guys in your team then we are going to win the game’. But you are more likely to lose the ball. The counter-argument is that one of the reasons why Lithuania only had one shot on target was because of the work ethic of my whole team.

“I think this is the best way to qualify. I may be wrong, there may be better ways, but in my experience at clubs in the past this is the way I have found to be best. All I am asking is give me an opportunity to go down this road and see if I can get it to work.”

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

by the second half I couldn't pay attention to anything other than John Robertson mentioning 'that little bit of quality' every thirty seconds.

Didn't have to go to the pub because the game was on Freeview (channel 301), tho I only discovered this by accident about halfway thru the 1st half. Yeah, was wee Robbo on acid or ecstasy or something? Funniest thing was how he crashed from absurd over-optimism to crushing despair almost instantaneously when he finally realised Scotland weren't going to score after all (about 2 minutes from time).

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

Some good news, for a change

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 17:43 (fifteen years ago)

Yay, well done the weans!

Gordon Smith would not be my first choice of a person whose opinions on Scotland I would be seeking, so thanks for that, Reporting Scotland.

Oh, and good luck to Brian Laudrup, diagnosed with lymphoma.

http://news.stv.tv/scotland/196180-former-rangers-star-brian-laudrup-diagnosed-with-cancer/

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

But you are more likely to lose the ball.

And still he perseveres with a midfield of Darren Fletcher and Scott Brown, eh?

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

Watching this in a pub solo /oddball

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

Kris Boyd got the ned mascot then. Also looked more likely to sing GSTQ to the Liechtenstein anthem tune rather than Flower of Scotland, tbh.

Amy MacDonald playing the part of Corries dude. Not very well.

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

She's v pretty and altho she may have been shite (I dunno sound wasn't on here) but had enough of Mr cmon.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

She is very pretty, but she sounded like a cat being strangled. She did shout C'Mon though.

This is not inspiring stuff, is it?

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

also, well-timed not-offside run from Liechtensteinian dude who has realised Weir being halfway down the pitch + Mick's propensity to play everyone onside = best chance you're going to get here. Thankfully the linesman up that end as bad the one who flagged Boyd off at the other end.

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

Haha she did the cmon.

This is fairly rotten. Booing was bad tho. That should be reserved for Mowbray era celtic.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

Am considering suing my parents for not moving to Spain 30 years earlier. Being Scottish is pish.

Faddy well off the pace. Hate myself for thinking Charlie Adam might be the answer :-( Hate Levein more for not giving many more options (broken Shaun might have had more luck.

James Morrison on for Faddy as I was typing that.

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

Waahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :-(

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

ah ye've gotta laugh.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

OH FOR FRICK'S SAKE (thank you Daily Record, I'll take the credit when you use that tomorrow)

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

I really, really, really wish I didn't care. I am trying to focus on BB instead but it's not entirely working.

It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

Decent chance for Fletcher there, hopefully spurring on. Barry Robson looking more useful in five minutes than Faddy managed in forty five.

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

No country so small we can't lose to it.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

KENNY MISSER! <3 (for now!)

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

James Morrison looking about 100000 times more useful than first-half Faddy. Mutton still pish.

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

Sack the board.

Better than mcfadden is about all you can say for robson.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

He looked alright for about five minutes!

That mad strobing advertising hoarding behind the goals is doing my head in.

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

Ouchy. Still, it's only Alan Hutton...

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

Never in doubt

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

They wouldn't let it Lie(chtenstein).

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

Supporting Scotland isn't fun.

treefell, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

What a pile of mince, didn't deserve the win.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

lol mindmeldy "never in doubt" text message xpost with onimo

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

Fuck watching Scotland tbh. That was fucking shocking.

My team for the Spain match:

Martin, Caddis, Hanlon, Wilson, Scobbie, Arfield, Coutts, Wotherspoon, Bannan, Maguire, Goodwillie.
Subs: Murphy, Gallacher, Forrest, Marr, Saunders, Shinnie, McGinn

(can't bring myself to put Billy Stark as coach)

pissky in the jar (onimo), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

And yet... Lithuania beat the Czech Republic, so we're not doing that badly really *inane grin/ thumbs up*. Was watching this in a pub with the England game and Ireland game going on simultaneously - English fans alternately sneering+laffing, Ireland fans supportive - when we scored most of the handful of Scottish fans when apeshit, while I stood there stony-faced, thinking "What a fucking great achievement. Well fucking done."

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:39 (fifteen years ago)

can't bring myself to put Billy Stark as coach

Mate of mine's wee brother just got married to Billy Stark's daughter. The highlight of the wedding, for the groom's family at least, seems to have been that Packy Bonner was there.

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:41 (fifteen years ago)

Pat Bonner was sitting a few rows up and along from us at the League Cup Final a couple of seasons ago. There was serious hero-worship going on all around - at least half a dozen random people nudged me and others randomly passing on the way up the stairs to point him out in his seat. He was sitting with Tom Boyd and I don't think anyone was paying *him* the slightest bit of attention.

ailsa, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:47 (fifteen years ago)

Oi! Tom could play at full-back! Remember full-backs?

pissky in the jar (onimo), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:59 (fifteen years ago)

I obviously paid him some attention! I noticed he was there! I liked Tom Boyd, mostly.

What's a full back?

ailsa, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:00 (fifteen years ago)

TomBoyd was a good player but not cult figure material

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:01 (fifteen years ago)

Cult hero status afforded for his terrible singing at the stopping-the-ten title party when he grabbed the mic and started singing Stand Up For The Champions as everyone cringed at him. Also for bouncing waving a trophy around to Roll With It whenever that was (97 league cup final?). He makes me laugh. Except when scoring o.g.s against Brazil, obv.

ailsa, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:06 (fifteen years ago)

"Smell The Glove" has something of a cult status.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:11 (fifteen years ago)

We need to start winning titles to bring back the tradition of t-shirts that no-one understands.

ailsa, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)

Also also because it's better than not winning titles, obv.

ailsa, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:26 (fifteen years ago)

"It wasn't luck - you just need to keep going and keep going and keep going. If you score in the last minute it's lucky, if you score in the first minute it's good play.

"It doesn't matter when you score, as long as you get the goals. I think it was definitely down to character rather than luck."

A good point well made, Mr McManus. His years at Celtic have taught him well.

ailsa, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:39 (fifteen years ago)

(we were still rubbish though)

ailsa, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:39 (fifteen years ago)

It's good to know we have the character to eke out beyond last minute wins against Liechtenstein, it will serve us well against Spain.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

I have seen talk on other fora of a new-found positive attitude which will take us onwards past a faltering Spain. These people are clearly mental, and presumably forgot the preceding 96 minutes of fluffed passes, blokes falling over each other and general bumbling ineptitude. Also also forgot that it was Argentina that Spain were playing and not Albion Rovers.

ailsa, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

Tom Boyd used to go to the same mass as me. Remember sitting a couple of rows behind him not long after the OG.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

Other mass spotting: Paul McStay used to go to the same mass as me. Different chapel.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

last week I attended my first mass for a funeral. You guys are nuts. In a good way.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

I used to go to the same mass as ex-St Mirren and Caley Thistle goalie Les Fridge. Different class of celebs in Inverness.

ailsa, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

I once went to a funeral mass with (well not with, attended by) Jinky. I think that's my only mass/football story.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)

xpost I think you mean ex-CHELSEA goalie Les Fridge!

I don't think I have anything footballing to add to my mass story. I guess I'll have to attend more often.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 16:39 (fifteen years ago)

Jinky's funeral was at aforementioned church that mcstay used to go to. Jinky and I are both Uddingstonians(ha, don't know if that's a word) from the adjoining areas of viewpark and tannochside.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 16:53 (fifteen years ago)

He wasn't ex-anything at that stage, btw, he was just Inverness Thistle goalie at the time. One game for Chelsea! He was signed after limiting Celtic to a measly 6 goals in a Scottish Cup game, btw, he was outstanding.

Useless football trivia, Inverness division. That game was in 1985, and Inverness Thistle's substitute striker was a chap called Jim Calder who, when the clubs (now Inverness Caley Thistle post-takeover) next met in the Scottish Cup 15 years later, was the goalie who made Super Caley Go Ballistic and Celtic Look Atrocious. My mum used to work with his wife, and he's a mad raging Hun. Not ever likely to see him at Mass.

ailsa, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)

Hamilton v Huns live on ESPN kicking off shortly - freeview this weekend for folks without a subscription.

ailsa, Saturday, 11 September 2010 10:57 (fifteen years ago)

Clubfoot hurted, replaced by renowned worldbeater Ricky Foster (still, at least they pocketed a wee bit of overdraft reduction for Danny Wilson, eh?), Miller rested after his international exploits. Squad at paper-thin already and we're not even half way through September.

lol Foster looking well shakey there. hahaha.

Keep still being weirded out by hearing the name Hasselbaink.

ailsa, Saturday, 11 September 2010 11:47 (fifteen years ago)

Richard Gough has resigned his position as "man who looks like an old lesbian". Thankfully Colin Hendry is there to pick up the baton from him.

ailsa, Saturday, 11 September 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

Craig Burley unsurprisingly au fait with muppets (Ray Stubbs has just likened him and Derek Rae to Stadler and Waldorf, which is pretty apt, except that Stadler and Waldorf were funny in their constant moaning)

ailsa, Saturday, 11 September 2010 12:05 (fifteen years ago)

lol og. Mon the (other) hoops :-)

ailsa, Saturday, 11 September 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

1347: "The Hamilton fans sense at least a point here."
BBC Scotland commentator Liam McLeod

1349: GOAL! HAMILTON 1-2 RANGERS (KENNY MILLER)

Hooray for the BBC.

It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Saturday, 11 September 2010 12:52 (fifteen years ago)

Who says the esspeeell isn't exciting? 5 minutes, four goals, three matches.

It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Saturday, 11 September 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

WTF? United 3-0 up on Aberdeen after 9 minutes.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Saturday, 11 September 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

My update didn't include Utd's third. What's going on?

It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Saturday, 11 September 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

Big Glum Jum moaning and getting himself sent off today. First goal definitely on-side, second maybe off, flag raised in error umpteen times so he should stfu really.

Paddy McCourt with yet another sublime solo effort. He really is a special player.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

Is there a Spanish football thread for this season? Barca currently 2-0 down vs the Bumble Bees of Hercules.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

I was just searching for it myself, can't find anything. Good work, Celtic away.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

Pique must have lost a body's worth of blood in the past few months.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:45 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkw-MfBjlbQ

Paddy's goal from 1.50 ish

pissky in the jar (onimo), Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)

I <3 Paddy McCourt. Crowd reaction was totally OMG WTF *silence as 45000 jaws drop* YAY!!!

ailsa, Sunday, 12 September 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

never done this before but when I get my strip this year mccourt's going on the back :)

post below to show ur support for I love football separatism (cozen), Sunday, 12 September 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

btw, onimo, I was right, that was his first one at Celtic Park. Others were Falkirk away, St Midden away, St Johnstone away, Caley Thistle away.

ailsa, Sunday, 12 September 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

Sami's controversially disallowed goal missing from the BBC highlights, I see.

ailsa, Sunday, 12 September 2010 17:17 (fifteen years ago)

Stokes' disallowed first half goal also missed the cut for some reason.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Monday, 13 September 2010 09:21 (fifteen years ago)

Was at work yesterday. Texted my mate who I'd given my ticket to when paddy came on saying I'd be pissed off if he saw paddy's first goal at paradise and I missed it :(

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Monday, 13 September 2010 11:17 (fifteen years ago)

Saturday I mean of course. Lol drunkenness.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Monday, 13 September 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)

Good luck Evander Sno, recovering in hospital from a suspected heart attack (insert your own "don't you have to expend energy to put pressure on your heart?" type comment here):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/8995971.stm

ailsa, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 07:39 (fifteen years ago)

(insert your own "don't you have to expend energy to put pressure on your heart?" type comment here)

I'd rather not, thanks.

Get well soon Evander.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 09:21 (fifteen years ago)

Jim Jeffries has "apologised"


"It was then relayed to me that some pictures showed he was offside but I have seen other footage from a different angle which appears to be the correct one and it clearly shows me that Murphy was marginally onside, and I accept that.
"I can'take back what I said, I can only apologise for it.
"I have spoken to Hugh Dallas and asked him to apologise to Francis Andrews on my behalf, as I don't have his number.

Here's an idea Jim, ask Hugh Dallas for Andrews' number and apologise personally you ungracious prick. Note no retraction of his "when you come to this place" nonsense - almost as embarrassing as his cohort Brown's "hundred years" pish a few years back.

"marginally onside" I mean seriously o_O

pissky in the jar (onimo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 09:23 (fifteen years ago)

Mad Vlad's off on one again.

Romanov waded into the row yesterday with another of his trademark attacks on the "mafia" running Scottish football. While the content was largely familiar and likely to land the club in further trouble with the authorities, Romanov's rant also mentioned for the first time the possibility of him giving up the struggle to take on the duopoly of Celtic and Rangers - a cause for concern among Hearts fans, given the fact the club's substantial debt is owed ultimately to Romanov.

"It is not me who you punish again by allowing two goals scored from offside in the game Celtic v Hearts," said Romanov. "You kill yourselves as human beings, turning into animals who live just to get food.

"I spoil not just your jolly mood but business - and that's why you punish my team with the cards and then fine me for complaining about it.

"I have nothing to prove to you. I proved everything in my first year of 2005 when I took away from you whatever I could.

"For 40 years you play games with the fans and deceive them about your wish to play in England. It would be much better if you merge the Scottish and the Lithuanian leagues. That is going to be more useful for you.

"It is hard to imagine what harm you cause to your country, to your nation every day by deceiving every week hundreds of thousands of fans.

"But sooner or later they are going to realise that they are being fooled and when it happens every day for you is going to become like torture."

He added: "I am bringing up the kids, the young players, watching your joy when you defeat them with the help of red cards and penalties.

"Of course, it is not worthwhile spending money and time on you. It would be possible to abandon this useless work, but I pity the fans. Not those, naturally, who are celebrating cheap victories when the opponents of your team are given three reds and three yellows. To see such a crowd is a frightful sight.

"You announced that you would like to sell your clubs. You are ready to get rid of them. But what decent and honest person would want to continue your showbusiness?"

Presumably the Mafia running Scottish football have doctored the BBC's footage to make the two offside goals look onside.

Really hoping Celtic release footage of the wrong offside decisions (e.g. Sami's disallowed goal) as a huge stfu to all concerned.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 10:56 (fifteen years ago)

that pat mccourt one there is possibly the lowest-quality solo wondergoal i've ever seen

r|t|c, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:08 (fifteen years ago)

yeah if i scored it in Pro Evo it's 50/50 whether i'd celebrate or immediately turn up the difficulty tbh

k¸ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:16 (fifteen years ago)

Aye it's about fifth in his last five solo efforts. The great thing about him is that he only does solo efforts.

Defences get a lot of criticism when he drifts past them as they look as if they can't be arsed tackling. Hearts are no strangers to the full-blooded equaliser (as shown by iirc four straight years at the top of the foul play tables) so it's not like they'd be shy about taking him out. He has a knack for putting people off balance so that they're not in a position to even make a challenge. If you look at some of his other goals (St Mirren last season maybe the best example) it's the same thing - a bunch of cloggers can't get in position to clog him because he's ended up not being where they expect him to be.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)

he's always had great balance alright. him or mcgeady iyo?

k¸ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:25 (fifteen years ago)

Welcome back, Mad Vlad, I've missed you and your baseless paranoid nutjob mutterings so much (lol yes, ironing, stereotype Celtic fan, my entire internet-based football-discussing career, etc, I know). And apologies if I caused any offence caused by flippancy over scary heart attack thingies. I am not good with scary things.

some xposts, onimOTM about how easy McCourt makes it look. This is why he is awesome and I love him (McCourt, not onimo).

ailsa, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:25 (fifteen years ago)

he's always had great balance alright. him or mcgeady iyo?

Paddy, no question.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:26 (fifteen years ago)

does he get a game for norn ireland?

k¸ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

Think he's got maybe 2 caps? And yes, Paddy over Aiden any time.

ailsa, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:33 (fifteen years ago)

Just 3 caps :(

xp

pissky in the jar (onimo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

Missed a trick there, Paddy, they're all playing for the Republic these days

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:35 (fifteen years ago)

wtf then? cos you'd imagine mcgeady would have had more than that for them, had theny nicked him first

k¸ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:35 (fifteen years ago)

xp!

k¸ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:35 (fifteen years ago)

Not sure of your point?

ailsa, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:41 (fifteen years ago)

Paddy has spent a lot of time injured or not being being selected for various clubs so it's not surprising he's only on the fringes of his national team. Neil Lennon's arrival at Celtic has seen McCourt make more appearances in 12 league games than he did in two full seasons before. Even Lennon questions his fitness levels on a regular basis. I can only assume he's a lazy git in training because he never looks as if he's struggling on a match day.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:42 (fifteen years ago)

I don't know if I've seen McCourt in anything but highlights, does he do anything other than occasionally score the goal of the season? It kinda seems like a hairy Messi should have a little more recognition than just a Kitson-esque cult following. (kinda xpost, although if anyone has anything more to say, go for it!)

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:42 (fifteen years ago)

Yes, he creates chances for team-mates, passes the ball better than anyone (maybe with the exception of new arrival Kayal) and gets lots of shots on target.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:44 (fifteen years ago)

No wonder Strachan wouldn't play him

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:45 (fifteen years ago)

eh he's always had 'personal issues' iirc

k¸ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:57 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/hibernian/8998040.stm

"Lithuanian moves to Edinburgh and doesn't sign for Hearts" shocker!

ailsa, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

He's a mole

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

No he's on loan from Hearts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Mole

pissky in the jar (onimo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

Wow he's scoring less than a goal a season - I remember thinking he was something of a prospect.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

The New Franny Jeffers

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:01 (fifteen years ago)

lol at rangers fans crying on the news

if you act like adults in future, you'll be treated like adults

cozes kiptanui (cozen), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 17:41 (fifteen years ago)

What are they crying about?

pissky in the jar (onimo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

they're being treated LIKE PRISONERS

should i watch robocop y/y (cozen), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

do the crime, do the time imho

should i watch robocop y/y (cozen), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11292626

Boohoohoo.

ailsa, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

Lee Naylor just scored for Cardiff.

ailsa, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

hey! celtic signed a mexican-american on loan (w/option to buy), Adrian Ruelas. young fit striker, six foot two, grew up in the US but trained and played in mexico. he looked good in the milk cup last month, i wonder if celtic scouts saw him there.

sam acre, Thursday, 16 September 2010 07:19 (fifteen years ago)

Celtic have signed something with a Mexican club with a view to making money in yet another country* finding the best young new talent in Mexico.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/celtic/195613-celtic-to-forge-partnership-with-mexican-club/

* there's still an option to read the official club website in Chinese, despite the fact that Zheng Zhi has left, and never really featured that much when he was here.

ailsa, Thursday, 16 September 2010 07:52 (fifteen years ago)

a view to making money in yet another country

We already have a Mexican internationalist, signing a kid who won't get a game isn't going to boost our appeal in Mexico.

I'm pleased about this new partnership though, mostly because I spent two seasons at Santos Laguna on Be A Pro mode in FIFA 10 and became club captain before moving to Barcelona.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Thursday, 16 September 2010 09:03 (fifteen years ago)

signing a kid who won't get a game isn't going to boost our appeal in Mexico.

No, but that's the idea behind the linkup, that article makes mentions marketing and promoting the Celtic name abroad and stuff. I have no idea if it's going to work or not (my money's on "no", how did the Ujpest Dozsa thing work out again? Koki Mizuno? Du Wei? Zheng Zhi?), but I was talking about the linkup being the theoretical moneyspinner, not this actual striker chap himself.

ailsa, Thursday, 16 September 2010 09:36 (fifteen years ago)

Koki Mizuno and Zheng Zhi both looked v capable players to me before they were put out of position or ignored. I've no problem with trying these things if there's a chance unearths a good player and raises the profile of the club (not that I'm saying it will).

Plus Santos wear these so it's all good
http://www.uksoccershop.com/images/santos_laguna.jpg

pissky in the jar (onimo), Thursday, 16 September 2010 09:40 (fifteen years ago)

No, I don't have a huge problem with it either. A Ki or a Naka will always compensate for a Du Ri or a Du Wei. Was just saying it was a thing (also said in strikethrough that it was a thing, fwiw).

ailsa, Thursday, 16 September 2010 09:42 (fifteen years ago)

Who is this Ki you speak of?

pissky in the jar (onimo), Thursday, 16 September 2010 09:48 (fifteen years ago)

Don Ki?

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 September 2010 09:50 (fifteen years ago)

He's the new Marc Crosas with added international jersey-selling appeal! :-)

ailsa, Thursday, 16 September 2010 09:52 (fifteen years ago)

I'm trying to gauge our central midfielders in order of preference and I reckon

Biram Kayal = Efraín Juárez > Marc Crosas (who?) = Ki > Ledley = Brown
?

Allowing for three in the middle I reckon Brown should be out on his arse and Ledley needs to do more to convince me he should be above players who don't get a sniff of a game.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Thursday, 16 September 2010 09:54 (fifteen years ago)

and that's with Brown doing a lot more of late and trying to learn to pass the ball and crazy things like that

pissky in the jar (onimo), Thursday, 16 September 2010 09:55 (fifteen years ago)

btw, I should make it clear I'm not sure how much I buy into this mass-marketing international appeal stuff, but it's hard not to be when Peter Lawwell starts spouting off about it. I could also be cynical about how some of these chaps suddenly rock up in the team when we're playing Rangers and attracting our biggest worldwide TV audience, but I'm not playing that level of cynicism today for fear of being shouted at (also have no stats to back it up, just a general feeling of "WTF where did they come from?" when Koki and Zheng made the team for a couple of derby matches. Saying that, I had one of them for Willo Flood turning up for one as well, and I hardly think he was signed to sell jerseys)

xpost, that sounds about right. <3 Kayal, he's like what Scott Brown is meant to be like, what with his fancy giving-the-ball-to-a-team-mate ways and everything.

ailsa, Thursday, 16 September 2010 10:00 (fifteen years ago)

btw, I should make it clear I'm not sure how much I buy into this mass-marketing international appeal stuff, but it's hard not to be when Peter Lawwell starts spouting off about it.

Peter Lawell seems oblivious to the fact that our mass-market international appeal is basically a small section of the Irish Catholic diaspora in the USA and a couple of blokes in Australia.

Nakamura was a genuine star of Japanese football and I'm sure he sold a few jerseys, but not enough imo to make it some kind of profitable deal - I'm just glad he was a good footballer. We're not going to get many new long-term foreign Celtic fans out of any of these signings. Hopefully they're good enough to win the league and we might just claw back some of the 15000 domestic supporters who've disappeared.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Thursday, 16 September 2010 10:14 (fifteen years ago)

We're not going to get many new long-term foreign Celtic fans out of any of these signings.

DING DING DING! Now someone tell Lawwell that. Is good when an actua footballer turns up from a nation we haven't tried before, but it's the scattergun approach of "hey, there are lots of people in China! Let's buy a Chinese guy! Millions of people will now love us!" that's weird. Especially when said blokes either aren't very good or are good but don't really get a game because they don't quite fit in the team.

I wonder if those guys that were the Japanese version of us in that Naka documentary a couple of years back still watch Celtic now that he's away?

ailsa, Thursday, 16 September 2010 10:19 (fifteen years ago)

i dunno guys i've already got the spartak moscow home and away kits and am looking at getting satellite just for mcgeady's stellar turns in subzero conditions

k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 September 2010 10:22 (fifteen years ago)

Some Celtic forums are posting Spartak match reports. Like good luck and all that Aiden and thanks for the £millions but I really don't give a fuck that your team got a spawny result last night.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Thursday, 16 September 2010 10:26 (fifteen years ago)

am thinking about learning russian actually, as it's only a matter of time before paul mcshane is sent to a fucking gulag too

k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 September 2010 10:36 (fifteen years ago)

Hey, Rudi Skacel's back! He was brilliant that year I won the SPL Fantasy Football League!

Also Bazza fancies another go at being an international footballer. If we're going to led idiotic toy-chuckers in (and it seems we are, boo), I'd rather him than Lee McCulloch. Still, this is good:

It was the way it ended; I thought it was childish, to be told you will not represent your country again by fax.

Not like the mature way you ended your international career, then?

I held my hands up. I was stupid

Yes, yes you did. And yes, you were.

ailsa, Thursday, 16 September 2010 11:09 (fifteen years ago)

Hey Deek can resurrect his favourite song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7snz7zVUsos

pissky in the jar (onimo), Thursday, 16 September 2010 11:11 (fifteen years ago)

Turns out Celtic didn't sign a Mexican kid but agreed to have him come train with the team.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Thursday, 16 September 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/more-scottish-football/fears-for-dundee-as-melville-calls-time-1.1056430

Dundee look fucked. Little or no money, investor walks away, no credit, an SPL wage bill and former employees looking for compensation.

I don't get "tried to resign from the club’s board" - he did resign.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 13:01 (fifteen years ago)

I see we all enjoyed the weekend action so much not a single post was made. Glad I missed the Celtic match - looks like they really struggled to get 5 minutes of highlights out of it.

pissky in the jar (onimo), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 13:02 (fifteen years ago)

There was v little to report in the Celtic game. Scott Brown got borked, Paddy got borked, we still appear to have an actual left back, Glen Loovens isn't very good, Shaun Maloney is, Anthony Stokes tried to do the Henrik tongue-sticking-out celebration after his goal but it just made him look daft, some gits moaned about offside (he wasn't), some gits moaned about Darryl's stop-start penalty run-up (he claimed he just slowed down), Neil Lennon somehow forgot that Fraser Wright cacks his pants at the sight of Sami and left him on the bench. Didn't see anything of any of the others except the Rangers goals (an assist for Weary David!).

We all up for the wee cup then?

ailsa, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

I didn't comment because the weekend convinced me we'll probably go down. 10 off the top, 1 off the bottom. Rachel Riley would struggle with those numbers.

It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

nah Hibs will finish somewhere between 5th and 8th. St Mirren are going down.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

I Love Football.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)

Had tried to buy a ticket for tonight online a while ago and it fucked up. Never bothered going in the end. Missed a Sammy hat-trick: total nightmare.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:05 (fifteen years ago)

Might revise my Hibs prediction down a bit given that they were punching fuck out of each other after losing tonight.

Celtic were as good as they've been for years. Looked like scoring with every attack. Sami's enigmameter swinging back into the green. Hooper looks like Skippy with a work ethic. Stokes chipping in with two (second was a peach). Only concerns are Loovens at centre half (Big Dan playing for two) and that we seem be running out of full backs again. Ki was excellent, as was Juarez.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:08 (fifteen years ago)

love this photo
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/49210000/jpg/_49210952_samaras.jpg

at one point tonight Sami was trying to wring his shirt out.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:09 (fifteen years ago)

It was raining about that much when he was doing it, btw. It didn't work. Brilliant night, made even better by the numpties in the posh seats right behind us who didn't know who anyone was, what the rules were, and didn't even notice the whole Stokes getting brought down and winning and then scoring a penalty incident at all.

ailsa, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)

That Sammy photo = my new wallpaper on my phone.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

I love him again, btw. Probably just until Saturday, mind.

John Hughes' post match interview was v. strange, he sounded like he was just practising speaking English for the first time, and was well out-eloquented by Mixu. We got "siege mentality" in the game of cliche bingo though!

ailsa, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:22 (fifteen years ago)

Quarter-final draw

Aberdeen v Falkirk
St Johnstone v Celtic
Motherwell v Dundee United
Kilmarnock v Rangers

Ties to be played on Tuesday 26 and Wednesday 27 October

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

Reasonably happy with that. Would have like Them at Celtic Park, but I'll settle for a repeat of the 2008 final (with almost entirely different players). In fact, we could get the same semis for proper history-repeating stuff, but would rather forego the 12 penalties each shootout in the semi if that comes to pass.

ailsa, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

Wanted Rangers at home tbh, otherwise I'm quite happy for away games that I don't need to spend money on.

Wonder what game the BBC will choose to televise...

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

"Them" was meant to indicate Rangers, btw, not that I wanted the reverse of the fixture we actually got. Was going for the Chick Young school of "Them".

I'm struggling to remember the last game of ours on the Beeb. Think it was Kilmarnock a couple of years back.

ailsa, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't notice the capital T, sorry.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

Last non-Hampden Celtic game on the BBC was Killie in the League Cup quarterfinals in 2008, I think, iirc our Scottish Cup games were all on Sky last year (or not televised).

ailsa, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

Forgot my favourite bit of John Hughes' interview from the other day - "a lady little bit of luck".

Hard-won three points today at Celtic Park - God, watching Cha Du Ri is hard work. Actually thought Charlie Mulgrew did alright before he was hooked at half-time and Loovens was playing really well until I said "I don't want to jinx it, but Loovens is playing really well". Sorry :-(

Shaun Maloney was cack.

ailsa, Saturday, 25 September 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

Hooper + Stokes not as good as midweek but still signs of a good partnership developing.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Saturday, 25 September 2010 17:46 (fifteen years ago)

thought mulgrew was good for once,taken of because of a knock i suppose? Maloney is a minister without portfolio. Free agent on the field whose displays make you think he should just be a free agent full-stop. stokes looked pretty rotten at times imo but not all bad. sammy looked lively when he came on but still a bit "mercurial". the human weapon cannae defend. glenda started well but went rotten, well taken goal mind you. juarez and ledley i thought were really good, ledley less so when moved to left-back - not really his fault. brown's passing prowess was back to usual but good goal and decent work rate, about what you expect from brown, perhaps a step-down from the start of the season when he actually seemed to be playing like a proper good player. big dan impressed again.

overall team performance i thought was decent in the first half and spells of the second. but we were completely overrun at some stages of the second-half. just looked completely uncomposed, everything that was up in the air round the middle of the park was going unchallenged and we seemed unable to deal with opposition players even when we had them outnumbered.

how sunny was it? if there was actual uv coming from the sun we have in this country i think i would have gotten burned.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 25 September 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

taken off even

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 25 September 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

also i wish i'd just paid a bit extra and got a seat in 105 instead of 405. was sitting in the former today, because my dad was on holiday, and the view was a lot better ;_;

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 25 September 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

we were completely overrun at some stages of the second-half

We got edgy towards the ends and gave the ball away a fair bit but Hibs had one shot on target the whole game (unless you count the 40 yard free kick straight into the keeper's arms. We could have won 5-1 with the second half chances, Sami alone could've had a hat trick with better luck/finishing.

Shaun's looked our best player at times this season but needs to be played through the middle as out wide he has no interested in staying wide and playing like a wide player. I'd rather have had Sami out there when he came on and put Shaun behind Stokes.

Thought it was a very important win overall. Under Mowbray and late-era Strachan we'd have chucked two points away in those nervy closing minutes

also i wish i'd just paid a bit extra and got a seat in 105 instead of 405. was sitting in the former today, because my dad was on holiday, and the view was a lot better ;_;

We were moved from 407 to 107 on Wednesday and much appreciated the better view but the seats are seriously cramped together down there - I like my legroom.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Saturday, 25 September 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

Some baffling decisions today - Murray making a strong play for the Old Firm game.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Saturday, 25 September 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

What was your legroom like in 105, Jim? As onimo says, we were a bit cramped in 107 on Wednesday, but that might have been because we were in the row just in front of the posh seats, and it felt like they'd been shoehorned in, it was like the difference between BA and Ryanair tbh. I don't remember being that cramped when I used to sit in 114 a million years ago.

Some baffling decisions today

Made even more baffling by the clown behind us suggesting that red cards should be issued to defenders for being one-on-one with a striker in marginal offside decisions. No idea what he was on about, tbh.

I've decided I like Stokes. Hooper is like a moan-free Skippy (which is a good thing). Thought Broonie was worth his MOTM overall - some bad passes, but he was breaking up things in the midfield, was in the middle of some good moves, put in a power of work clearing things up and winning things back, and his goal was a belter. Liking big Dan more and more, would like to see Rogne in beside him though, he's looking too much like he's doing the work of two men when he's running about with his big broom to sweep up Glenda's lackadaisicalness.

ailsa, Sunday, 26 September 2010 09:11 (fifteen years ago)

I've sat in that row, though not that section a good few times and find the leg room fine, I'm 6 2.not as much as top teir perhaps, but at least in line with stadia I've visited.

Rangers penalty actually was a penalty today. Shocker.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 26 September 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

Mad Vlad's off on one again

ailsa, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:51 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, we are getting on the telly for once. Well done, BBC, I *knew* you were lurking on our thread/earywigging me and onimo.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_cups/9030472.stm

ailsa, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

dempsey scored ^_^

waka flocka flame judi dench (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 2 October 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

sorry i have no idea what thread this is for i thought 'spl' was premier league

is this for relegated teams?

waka flocka flame judi dench (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 2 October 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

Spl is the Scottish premier league.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 2 October 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

Has Yogi been sacked yet?

Some decent goals today at Celtic Park, but OMG looking at Glenn Loovens is not a hangover cure. If anyone can explain where Craig Thompson found 5 minutes extra time at Tynecastle today btw, I would be muchly appreciative.

ailsa, Saturday, 2 October 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

aye, and when even the radio is saying that the free-kick that the sons of satan scored from was never a foul you know it was some bullshit.

today was woeful. hamilton could easily have gone two up in the first ten minutes.

Two goals from set-pieces and one from a defensive mistake illustrates how toothless we were in attack. pushing everything out to the wings and whipping in terrible crosses, often with no-one in the box anyway, or trying to go through the middle and getting no joy.

hooper was a bit anonymous, except for the very well taken goal, which admittedly came from his only chance. pinging long balls up to a guy the size of danny devito maybe wasn't playing to his strengths though.

joe ledley is not a defender. more worryingly: neither is cha du ri. although i think we all knew that already.

green brigade giving it "bring on the rangers" at the end. optimists! we play like that and we're fucked. walter will be happy with a draw at parkhead if we've both got a perfect record when we meet, they've had a much tougher run than us. so those bawbags sitting back and hitting us on the break is the worry. kenny miller vs loovens = fear.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 2 October 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

oh and efra was rank. and dave needs to get his finger out.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 2 October 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)

I'm right back to the stage where I'll take rank as long as we keep winning. Revisionism is dangerous stuff, but I'd take a return to the Strachan years after a year of Mowbray making me realise you don't konw what you've got til it's gone. I'm actually mostly enjoying the games again these days (but seriously, can we have a centre half to play with Majstorovic please?). Neil Lennon's SPL record is way more impressive than I was willling to believe it was going to be when he took over.

btw, treefell, what happened at the weekend? Your mob burst my coupon.

ailsa, Sunday, 3 October 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

we're going to lose against rangers if we play like we did yesterday and that could be the beginning of the end. yes i know that's pretty hysterical and pessimistic, but i think it's correct.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 3 October 2010 17:19 (fifteen years ago)

I predict a glowing ascent to hero status for Fraser Forster against the mankies. And a goal for, I dunno, Cha or someone (on the way to the last derby I predicted a Lee Naylor goal, so I've decided I'm good at this). Dan Majstorovic to eat Weiss and kick Lafferty into the stands.

ailsa, Sunday, 3 October 2010 17:44 (fifteen years ago)

I was watching the Ryder Cup, so I missed the score until after it finished. From the sound of it, though, typical Rovers versus opposition they're expected to beat - create a million chances and miss them all while the other side sneaks goals as a sucker punch.

treefell, Sunday, 3 October 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

Just reading http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/hibernian/9055667.stm

Manager John Hughes is concerned by Hibernian's poor form but insists he has no fears over his job security.

and just had a text saying "Yogi out!" from a mate. Anyone? Seemed somewhat inevitable.

ailsa, Monday, 4 October 2010 08:32 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, just gone by that old chestnut "mutual consent".

Oddest rumour sees Mowbray at Boro and us with WGS.

It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Monday, 4 October 2010 10:14 (fifteen years ago)

lolz all round. I heard Michael O'Neill was maybe a thing? I await all the Jimmy Calderwood rumours starting RIGHT HERE.

ailsa, Monday, 4 October 2010 10:31 (fifteen years ago)

Jimmy Calderwood has been the default option since the game at Parkhead. Depressing, innit.

It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Monday, 4 October 2010 10:46 (fifteen years ago)

haah, really? There is v. little imagination in managerial appointments in Scotland. Has Gus McPherson got a job yet (joek, sort of)? There might be a wee whirl of the roundabout with, I dunno, Derek McInnes going to you and Calderwood going to St Johnstone, maybe?

ailsa, Monday, 4 October 2010 10:56 (fifteen years ago)

So long Yogi - I'll miss playing post-match interview bingo in the car :(

He just didn't get that lady bit of luck.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Monday, 4 October 2010 10:57 (fifteen years ago)

I'll miss playing post-match interview bingo in the car

Now, you just have to develop a siege mentality. Install it, if you will. Get a bit of fight about you.

ailsa, Monday, 4 October 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)

Google sez:

Jimmy Calderwood 4/1
Derek Adams 5/1
Michael O'Neill 6/1
Gus McPherson 7/1
Tony Mowbray 8/1
Billy Reid 10/1
Mark Venus 10/1
Alan Pardew 14/1
Pat Fenlon 14/1
Paul Ince 16/1
Stuart McCall 16/1
Henrik Larsson 18/1
Ian Dowie 18/1
Mike Newell 20/1
Csaba Laszlo 25/1

ailsa, Monday, 4 October 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

oops, took that off a Hibs board. Updated odds, including Derek McInnes and Gogs, from McBookie

Jimmy Calderwood 3/1
Derek Adams 5/1
Michael O'Neill 6/1
Tony Mowbray 6/1
Gus McPherson 9/1
Billy Reid 10/1
Derek McInnes 10/1
Mark Venus 10/1
Alan Pardew 14/1
Pat Fenlon 14/1
Paul Ince 16/1
Stuart McCall 16/1
Henrick Larsson 18/1
Ian Dowie 18/1
Gordon Strachan 20/1
Mike Newell 20/1
Csaba Laszlo 25/1

ailsa, Monday, 4 October 2010 17:14 (fifteen years ago)

Fucking hell, Scotland callups for Cammy Bell and Don Cowie? Really?

ailsa, Monday, 4 October 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

If anyone can explain where Craig Thompson found 5 minutes extra time at Tynecastle today btw, I would be muchly appreciative.

Thank you Michael Grant of the Herald today for doing just that in your match report.

The second half contained four bookings (all for Hearts players) and four substitutions. Referees are expected to add 30 seconds for each of those, which amounts to four minutes. There were stoppages for treatment to Jelavic and David Obua, too. The five minutes were explicable, and Rangers scored in the fourth of them.

Have never heard this 30 seconds added on per booking thing in my life, btw.

ailsa, Monday, 4 October 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

Obv such a thing that it was necessary to justify it in a national newspaper in order to tell Jim Jefferies to stfu and stop moaning. Even if your justification smells of shite and makes me want to start counting up injury time vs bookings and subs in every other game for the rest of the season.

ailsa, Monday, 4 October 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

If you added 30 secs per sub and booking to the stoppages for injuries plus time for the goal celebration then Hearts should have been given an extra two or three minutes to equalise.

I am all for clocks stopping for every break in play and having them prominently displayed at every stadium so everyone knows exactly how long is to go and taking your time over a free kick only makes you late home for your tea.
Or, if it's somehow deemed necessary by FIFA for the referee to be the only person who can decide when the clock stops, have a big clock in the stadium linked to his watch so you know what stoppages he somehow doesn't think are stoppages.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

Warm reception for Zander Diamond and Michael Paton next time they go to Ibrox then. Christ, if I reported every fucking stupid thing I saw posted on Facebook, I'd never leave the house. Interesting to see no actual comments made (according to the report) about Rangers, but it's a Rangers fan moaning that it doesn't help relations between Rangers and Aberdeen, and Diamond's team of choice gets a wee mention as well. Would *love* to see the moaning on Follow Follow, tbh. Bet there's nothing offensive in there at all.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2010/10/07/aberdeen-stars-zander-diamond-michael-paton-in-hot-water-over-offensive-facebook-remarks-during-pope-s-visit-to-scotland-86908-22615030/

ailsa, Thursday, 7 October 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

Also, team for tomorrow night. This looks suspiciously like a midfield featuring Gary Caldwell to me. BRING ON THE BEER :-(

McGregor, Hutton, Weir, McManus, Whittaker, G Caldwell, D Fletcher, Dorrans, Morrison, Naismith, Mackie

ailsa, Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

Fucking shameless of the Daily Record to manage to mention Celtic twice in an article that doesn't concern them.

If I was paranoid, which I'm not, I'd wonder why the form striker in Scotland (up until Saturday Celtic was the only team in the league that had scored more goals than Kenny Miller) who's the ideal man to play up on his own (seriously Mr Levein, take a look at his game versus Man Utd) has been dropped and I'd be wondering if it has anything to do with his fitness being even more crucial with the serious injury to his club strike partner. I'd maybe wonder if Walter Smith had possibly put some pressure on the Scotland manager by threatening to withdraw players.

But I'm not paranoid, so I'll assume dropping your star striker in favour of a debutant for a crucial away tie against a top team is a tactical decision based fuck knows what.

san te cross (onimo), Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, levein being strongarmed would actually be a good thing cos god help you all if he's come out with that teamsheet just on the sole basis of having watched mackie play a few times (if that). i mean mackie is playing excellently right now but a lot of it is down to warnock recognising that him being a wing-forward means he's neither a winger or a striker, so you get the best out of him by playing him in a 4-2-3-1 where he tirelessly harries from deep and/or picks off scraps from the target man.

if the czech defence is particularly lumbering i guess levein is maybe thinking pace will unsettle them more so than anything fletcher and miller can provide. what sort of player is naismith? (i've just got him down as "crap")

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

love the rule of andrew cole where our jamie has suddenly become james now btw. otoh quite disappointed he's nae jimmy mackie.

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:48 (fifteen years ago)

Not a target man, if that's what you're getting at. I wouldn't go as far as crap, but he's not who I'd pick if I had Steven Fletcher or Kenny Miller or even Kris Boyd at my disposal.

ailsa, Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

i guess levein is maybe thinking pace will unsettle them more so than anything fletcher and miller can provide

Miller has plenty of pace plus he's currently in the richest vein of form in his life. Mackie's worthy of a call up from what little I've seen/read but I can't believe he's being thrown straight in ahead of Miller when the manager has frequently said he picks on form (in fact form was his stated reason for dropping Boyd).

Naismith's alright, bit of pace, quite tricky, works his arse of and gets the odd goal. A bit like Mackie in terms of positional strengths (not quite a winger or a striker) only not so good.

san te cross (onimo), Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:52 (fifteen years ago)

hmm, fuck knows then.

kris boyd is so bad the boro fans are saying they want mido back btw.

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:57 (fifteen years ago)

But they want Tony Mowbray back as well, don't they?

ailsa, Thursday, 7 October 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

besides him being a club legend there i think most championship sides would be quite happy with mowbray in charge - his reputation is undiminished.

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 October 2010 23:07 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not saying Boyd is the answer, far from it, but I don't think a Naismith/Mackie pairing is the way to go. Naismith + A.N.Other that he plays with and knows might be the better way to use him.

xpost, really?! Is that just because no-one pays attention to what goes on in Scotland?

ailsa, Thursday, 7 October 2010 23:09 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, pretty much i'm afraid.

did levein confirm he's playing a 4-2-2-2 as well then? i guess that might mean he's expecting dorrans and morrison to get the goals rather than the two up top.

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 October 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)

his reputation is undiminished

Yet he's still unemployed.

san te cross (onimo), Thursday, 7 October 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)

thing is managerially speaking paying attention to what goes on in scotland is already out the window cos we still remember how shite levein was at leicester, so...

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 October 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)

Naismith + A.N.Other that he plays with and knows might be the better way to use him.

Just remembered we did that against Lithuania. It didn't work. But they've had a few more games together for Rangers since then, so it still seems more logical than insisting in keeping him in to partner this Mackie chap.

ailsa, Friday, 8 October 2010 00:21 (fifteen years ago)

kind of distressing to see a Scotland lineup feature someone you've never heard of, but I guess on investigation that's alright and more reflective of my ignorance than anything else. Still odd over goal-machine Millar and actually properly good Fletcher, though.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 8 October 2010 00:45 (fifteen years ago)

Thinking about it more, I don't even get why Naismith is getting the nod over Shaun Maloney for the tricky wee not-quite-striker role? Has plank levein even BEEN to celtic park, etc?

ailsa, Friday, 8 October 2010 09:17 (fifteen years ago)

Shaun didn't even make the last squad despite being (imho obv.) the best creative player in Scotland. Silver lining though - one less game for him to get broken in.

san te cross (onimo), Friday, 8 October 2010 09:22 (fifteen years ago)

Caldwell holding midfielder? Lol

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Friday, 8 October 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

Given how much of the ball we won't have I fully expect Caldwell to be mostly a 3rd centre half. Naismith will likely be dropping off to help out in midfield - making the 4-2-2-2 more of a 5-4-1.

san te cross (onimo), Friday, 8 October 2010 12:01 (fifteen years ago)

Dundee a step closer to administration:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/dundee/9044022.stm

ailsa, Friday, 8 October 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)

making the 4-2-2-2 more of a 5-4-1

silly me, it's a 4-6-0 :/

san te cross (onimo), Friday, 8 October 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

Naismith will likely be dropping off to help out in midfield

Or at left back.

Fuck me, that was woeful. Has he gone yet?

ailsa, Saturday, 9 October 2010 08:25 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, seriously. 4-6-0? Against a team coming off the back of a defeat at home to Lithuania? What was really galling is that right from the off it was clear that the Czechs were slack at the back and some of their passing was poor. Why not just go "hey, I got this wrong, I over-estimated them, let's have a fucking go here"? Nope, instead we park a really ineffective version of a bus. No style, little creativity, a complete fucking embarrassment.

ailsa, Saturday, 9 October 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

imo he won't be sacked. He'll be allowed to finish this unsuccessful qualifying campaign then the job will be given to Smith when he's done with Rangers; semi-retirement - if he wants the job.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 9 October 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

Hurrah, more negative tactics! Though at least Smith plays with strikers.

ailsa, Saturday, 9 October 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

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pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 October 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)

Craig Levein is a complete hypocrite, he moaned about Accies "negative" tactics at Tannadice yet last night played with no strikers, we got in their penalty box about twice in 90s minutes and did not have one single shot in the whole game. We made so many cynical fouls in the first half, i cant imagine that any scottish team in the past committed more. Absolutely shameful.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 October 2010 17:03 (fifteen years ago)

He's got form tbh - I remember a few years back he took Hearts to Celtic Park and played what was supposed to be a 4-5-1 but with the wide guys coming back into defence and the lone "striker" coming back into midfield to help out, making it a 6-4-0. They inevitably lost 2-0 and were booed off by their own fans. On the way home I heard his post-match interview where he said "a lot of team will lose worse than 2-0 here" as if he got some kind of result. He got stick all week for it and ended up coming out and saying he accepted his tactics were wrong and it wasn't fair to the Hearts fans who'd travelled and paid good money to watch them.

Seems he didn't really learn any lessons :(

It's all very well being defensive and trying to play counter-attacking football - but what he did last night amounted to sacrificing the ball completely and crossing his fingers that the opposition wouldn't take one of their numerous chances. It doesn't count as containment when the opposition *always* look like scoring and when you don't commit a single player in front of the football even when you have it.

I'm currently reading Jonathon Wilson's excellent "Inverting the Pyramid: A History of Football Tactics" - full of brilliantly researched stuff about how coaches, many of them Scottish, changed the way football was played through the ages - he needs to bring out a new edition entitled "Inverting The Pyramid, Blowing It Up and Stamping Down Any Wee Bits That Are Sticking Up Slightly"

There were points last night were I decided I didn't want Scotland to get anything from the game. We deserved to lose 4-0 and be slammed for weeks for that ridiculous performance.

san te cross (onimo), Saturday, 9 October 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

We all looking forward to Tuesday then?

ailsa, Saturday, 9 October 2010 18:04 (fifteen years ago)

Aye if spain play well and I can see scotland get their baws felt in 3d it may be alright.

Scotland did have a shot. Yon english lad had a dig from 30 yards that was wide as the Clyde and a pathetically weak.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 9 October 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

I was planning taking my dad out to watch in it 3d, but I believe there are laws prohibiting the torture of your parents.

ailsa, Saturday, 9 October 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)

nice little article about ruelas' loan (trial? training? the article says loan) http://watchsocceronline.blogspot.com/2010/10/ruelas-adjusting-to-life-with-celtic.html

avinha, Saturday, 9 October 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

Loan, possible move in the summer.

Wish him well, friendly against bohs will be a reserve match essentially.

Number 46 by the looks of it :'-(

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 9 October 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

Well worth a read: http://www.scotsman.com/sport/Tom-English-39What-next-Two.6573605.jp

Tom English: 'What next? Two goalkeepers and nine in defence against Spain?'

His paranoia about exposing his team to a heavy defeat is in contrast to the image he presents of himself, that of a strong leader. It betrays a lack of confidence in his own players, but also in his own ability. When he said he'd "learned a lesson" after playing the freewheeling James McFadden against Liechtenstein it was chilling. He said he regretted going away from his better instincts that night. In short, he wished he'd played five in midfield and kept it tight. Against Liechtenstein. At home.

san te cross (onimo), Sunday, 10 October 2010 13:41 (fifteen years ago)

We know the limitations of this Scotland side only too well, but they're not so bad that they can't go to Prague and back themselves to create some chances and, perhaps, score a goal. Of course, they haven't scored on the road in two years. Levein's approach to this problem on Friday was to raise the white flag and not even try. It was a depressing, and unacceptable, surrender.

Every fucking paragraph sadly otm.

Sack this excuse for a manager now.

san te cross (onimo), Sunday, 10 October 2010 13:43 (fifteen years ago)

Tom English OTM. The more I think back on Friday, the worse it gets in my mind. There's no excuse for it. No excuse at all. You, me, everyone with eyes could see that the Czechs weren't that good right from the off - at least twice in the first twenty minutes Dorrans had the ball down at the corner flag stemming from slack passing across the middle by the Czechs, looked up, went "where the fuck IS everyone?" and lost it again. Even if you pretend that it was a good idea on paper to limit the opposition (which it wasn't, ffs!), it took Levein over 70 minutes and a goal down (by which time the Czechs had sorted out their teething troubles) to try and change it when it was obvious right from the get-go that they were there for challenging and he'd got it all wrong. And even then, his changes were wrong.

ailsa, Sunday, 10 October 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

Fans of pish football might like to know that Ross County v Partick Thistle is on BBC Alba just now.

ailsa, Sunday, 10 October 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/9078131.stm

"A lot's getting made of the formation, but it doesn't really matter what formation you play"

Professional football in "doesn't get professional football" shocker. I fucking despair, I really do.

Fuck him and every other cunt who defends this shit.

san te cross (onimo), Sunday, 10 October 2010 22:31 (fifteen years ago)

"We could have been doing with at least a point, but there is no point in being downbeat," he said.

At least. O.M.F.G.

san te cross (onimo), Sunday, 10 October 2010 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

"I've never seen a team play without a striker before. We talked about it in training on Saturday.

"Even teams such as San Marino or Liechtenstein, who know before the game they will lose, they still play with one striker."

Marc Crosas gets it.

san te cross (onimo), Monday, 11 October 2010 09:36 (fifteen years ago)

"If I'm being brutally honest, Scottish football fans probably need to get used to the fact that this is the way our teams will go about trying to get results."

Peter Houston doesn't.

san te cross (onimo), Monday, 11 October 2010 09:40 (fifteen years ago)

http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Interview-Johan-Cruyff-Catalan-national.6573580.jp

"Football is not about suffering. It's about enjoyment. Control the ball, be friendly with it, try to attack, try to score goals. Of course defending is part of it, but you can defend in a lot of ways. You can defend going backwards, but you can also defend going forwards, which is what I like. Of course, it can mean taking some risks, but that's OK."

Cruyff was demoralised by this summer's World Cup finals, where Holland betrayed their past, and too many teams in the opening round sought only to avoid defeat. "I followed it, but there were teams there that I don't even remember playing. What did they do? At least Chile were enjoyable to see. They said, ‘let's go and have a look, let's get past the first level'. They can be proud of themselves. But playing for two draws and a loss... that makes no sense."

Suggest to Cruyff that Levein is only playing to his squad's strengths, just as Walter Smith, the Rangers manager, did at Old Trafford, and he quickly cuts you off, showing not a shred of sympathy. "If they are not the right type of players, it means that you didn't look for them, didn't create them. Don't use it as an excuse."

well said Johan

san te cross (onimo), Monday, 11 October 2010 10:09 (fifteen years ago)

anyone got Trap's email address?

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 10:24 (fifteen years ago)

That quote from Peter Houston makes me want to cry. Fuck this shit, seriously. I was trying on Friday to remember that I still support Scotland even when they're shit, but this is making it really fucking hard for me.

ailsa, Monday, 11 October 2010 13:40 (fifteen years ago)

yeah I've just read his comments.
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/3173823/Get-used-to-this.html

I'll watch the Spain game (to see Spain) then I'm never watching another Scotland match until these useless negative arseholes get sacked.

If avril plays a striker, we get humped, he will probably go down the 4-6-0 route again in the future claiming its justified.

But of course its always someone elses fault, its never his. Its the Lavvy way.

FUCK OFF LEVEIN

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 11 October 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)

PS I hope loads of teams play 4-6-0 at tannadice and let houston find out how the rest of us feel.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 11 October 2010 22:02 (fifteen years ago)

Pele get it right up you http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/9085409.stm
(the scotland goal)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/dundee/9085810.stm

Manager Gordon Chisholm and his assistant Billy Dodds have become the first casualties of the administration process at financially-stricken Dundee.

Can't see how putting £200k to get them through administration then raising another £200k just to get them to the end of the season is going to make much of a difference when they're >£2m in debt. I think the best they can hope for (beyond a new crazy sugar daddy) is survival and 3rd division football next season. Such a long way from having Caniggia and Ravanelli run out for them in the SPL.

Anyone remember Fabian Caballero from that Dundee team of the early 2000s? Always wanted to see him at Celtic.

ask chaki (onimo), Friday, 15 October 2010 12:36 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/sportscotland/predictor/

We are extremely sorry to announce that due to ongoing technical issues The Predictor is being withdrawn for this season. Please accept our sincere apologies for the loss of this service.

useless fucks :(

4-6-0 what a horribly formed joke (onimo), Friday, 15 October 2010 13:24 (fifteen years ago)

At least when I ran the predictor it worked :)

treefell, Friday, 15 October 2010 13:46 (fifteen years ago)

If you're still running a competition, Clydesdale Bank do virtually the same thing. it's cbfootball.co.uk or something

scotstvo, Friday, 15 October 2010 17:19 (fifteen years ago)

Somebody's not happy about being left out of the squad yet again despite a load of midfield injuries:

http://twitter.com/#!/marccrosas/status/27628682539

What else do i have to do?
14 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

not that kind of poster (onimo), Sunday, 17 October 2010 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

Forster, Wilson, Loovens, Majstorovic, Izaguirre, Maloney, Ki, Ledley, Samaras, Hooper, Stokes.

Looks like maybe a 4-2-1-3. Intersting. (though it might be a 4-4-2 with Sami as a winger for all I know)

not that kind of poster (onimo), Sunday, 17 October 2010 11:43 (fifteen years ago)

Really enjoying this so far - about 8 attempts & an early goal.

Not sure about the 2 man midfield though, hopefully we just keep the ball for 90 minutes.

not that kind of poster (onimo), Sunday, 17 October 2010 12:05 (fifteen years ago)

fuckers :(

not that kind of poster (onimo), Sunday, 17 October 2010 12:25 (fifteen years ago)

This lack of midfield plan is going wrong here Lennie let's sacrifice one of the four strikers eh? Not looking for a 4-6-0 or anything.

not that kind of poster (onimo), Sunday, 17 October 2010 13:04 (fifteen years ago)

NO FUCKING WAY REF YOU ARE TAKING THE FUCKING PISS

not that kind of poster (onimo), Sunday, 17 October 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

Dougie McDonald, George Peat, Hugh Dallas, Stewart Regan, Jim Farry, Gordon Smith. Your boys took a hell of a beating.

Absolute farce today. Ref gives penalty after Hooper was fouled twice, linesman runs over to his position on the touchline for the penalty, they have a wee chat = drop ball. Three other hand balls in their box ignored as well, one of which led to our winner. Wonder how many men we'll be playing against next week.

not that kind of poster (onimo), Sunday, 17 October 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

^ this. Fucking shameless. We were busy debating which one of Kenneth or Pernis was getting the card for conceding the penalty, and which colour it would be.

All the handballs were more blatant than the one Steven Whittaker copped for on Tuesday.

ailsa, Sunday, 17 October 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

nonsensical refereeing today, but we won, and played well.

next week is the real deal. rangers actually look good the now and will probably sit back and try and hit us on the break. i am nervous.

C. Tuomas Howell (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 17 October 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr8T8qPmvDo

:D

underrated football teams I have owned (onimo), Sunday, 17 October 2010 23:17 (fifteen years ago)

Colin Calderwood, then. Hmm.

Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Monday, 18 October 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

Is it? Strachan's just left Middlesbrough, you could change your minds...

ailsa, Monday, 18 October 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, OK, Calderwood's doing his press conference on SSN now. Could have been worse, could have been the tangoed Calderwood.

ailsa, Monday, 18 October 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

That was only ever a joke, despite all the pieces hilariously coming into place at the last minute.

Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Monday, 18 October 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

It was one gloriously optimistic comedy lol thought for a brief moment. Am hearing Mogga in at Boro though, which'll have Scott McDonald shiting it.

Hugh Dallas on SSN backing Dougie McDonald and assistant referee Steven Craven. I can't even be arsed swearing about it any more.

ailsa, Monday, 18 October 2010 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

btw, I totally forgot about the foul in the run-up to Dundee United's goal.

Sunday's going to be a laugh :-( Willie Gollum's got it, btw. Thought Conroy was a shoo-in an'all.

ailsa, Monday, 18 October 2010 17:31 (fifteen years ago)

Dundee - things can get worse.

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)

o_O

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 08:08 (fifteen years ago)

Crack researchers at the Daily Record, which i was reading at work yesterday, suggesting that the SPL contingent at Middlesbrough would be worried at the departure of wee Gogs. Including Chris Killen. Who left Middlesbrough in June. Also note everyone's favourite rubbish wee Irishman has changed his name to Willow.

And the 46-year-old - who is evens favourite to land the role - would almost certainly bin Strachan favourites such as Scott McDonald, Barry Robson, Chris Killen, Stephen McManus and Willow Flood all over again

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/england/2010/10/19/anxious-wait-for-middlesbrough-s-ex-celtic-contingent-as-tony-mowbray-tipped-to-replace-gordon-strachan-at-riverside-86908-22644834/

When I was looking for the article just now, I just came across this other one. I liked the phrasing of this quote, lol Lee Miller, less high-profile than Willo Flood.

Strachan signed several high-profile SPL players, including Kris Boyd and Kevin Thomson from Rangers and Celtic stars Stephen McManus, Barry Robson, Scott McDonald and Willo Flood. He also signed Lee Miller from Aberdeen.

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

Sunday's assistant linesman has tried to resign, and not been allowed to. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Convictions, courage of?

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/celtic/204426-linesman-craven-offers-resignation-to-sfa/

ailsa, Friday, 22 October 2010 22:14 (fifteen years ago)

more the refs fault than his, end of the day the ref saw it, and then took the opinion of someone further away, who was unsighted, and who ultimately is not responsible for the final decision and changed his mind based on that.

C. Tuomas Howell (jim in glasgow), Friday, 22 October 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

i.e. just use a bit of fucking common-sense and we won't have to have anyone resigning.

C. Tuomas Howell (jim in glasgow), Friday, 22 October 2010 22:21 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, exactly. If - let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say - Craven saw the replay and decided he'd played his part in getting shit wrong and offered to quit as a result of not having the courage to stick up for the opinion he offered at the time, then Dougie McDonald should be hanging his head in shame* because he had the better view and fucked it up. Also every other major decision in the game, let's be honest.

*If he had any.

ailsa, Friday, 22 October 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

Strachan signed Lee Miller??? I thought he just suffered an appalling run of bad luck at Boro, but with decisions like that I guess not.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 23 October 2010 00:48 (fifteen years ago)

oh jesus, really, you what now?

http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Police-to--write-to.6595619.jp

also, lol Speaking at full-time, Houston hit out at Lennon, saying: "Celtic were celebrating as if they won the league. I am going to start running down the track for 30 yards after we score a goal. Celtic seem to get away with it, the whole backroom staff, the lot."

Yeah, no-one ever fucking celebrates this way if they score at Celtic Park. Ever.

Also, um, a fixture which has grown increasingly stormy in recent seasons? When did that happen?

ailsa, Saturday, 23 October 2010 10:32 (fifteen years ago)

New manager, same old Hibs :-/

ailsa, Saturday, 23 October 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

same team from last week

is he going to play 4-2-4 again? I've got the phear

http://i54.tinypic.com/2e2mrtl.jpg (cozen), Sunday, 24 October 2010 11:47 (fifteen years ago)

ref's set himself a bad early precedent w/stokes' booking

http://i54.tinypic.com/2e2mrtl.jpg (cozen), Sunday, 24 October 2010 11:48 (fifteen years ago)

oops I just got up.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 24 October 2010 13:27 (fifteen years ago)

Just watching Charlie Nicholas being staggeringly OTM re. that fucking penalty embarrassment. Utterly disgraceful refereeing for the second week in a row.

Celtic were alternately shite and lacking in imagination for the entire game, and seemingly oblivious to the problems. And if I never seen Glen Loovens in a Celtic shirt again, it won't be a moment too soon. Grrr.

ailsa, Sunday, 24 October 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

Dan was pish too.

Just awful.we deserved to lose but that doesn't temper how fucked the penalty decision was.

C. Tuomas Howell (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 24 October 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

Dan was pish today, but Glen is consistently pish and tried to get himself sent off into the bargain (though plus points for taking it all out on Vile Lafferty, if I'm being honest), also wtf was going on at the o.g.? Really? Just watching the post-match analysis through my fingers, and cringing at all of their goals. All of them. Two at our defence, and one at that awful bloody ref.

ailsa, Sunday, 24 October 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

Just deleted the rest without watching (slight slip of the hand on Sky+ control, oops), having watched the goals for my own peace of mind (and the destroying thereof), but if anyone watching the game wants to explain the handbags incident to me and why Ki got booked and Naismith didn't, that'd be nice. Also how many fouls Elbows committed after his booking, how many Bougherra committed full stop.

Stokes lucky to stay on the pitch, tbh.

ailsa, Sunday, 24 October 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=4g3zft&s=7

^ Sky Sports coverage of Bigfoot's dive. Third replay is the best for showing Gollum's back turned.

ailsa, Sunday, 24 October 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

not going to even watch it. too sickened. i think i might go to bed just so i can get this day over with (also actually tired because i had 5 hours sleep last night, after drinking 20 bottles of beer).

C. Tuomas Howell (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 24 October 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

Mad Vlad just a nod away from owning 98% of Hearts. Football financing is weird.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/heart_of_midlothian/9123930.stm

ailsa, Monday, 25 October 2010 11:21 (fifteen years ago)

So he loans himself money to buy Hearts, loans himself money to run Hearts (putting them in debt), then pays himself back with pieces of Hearts, which he already owns, thus vanishing the debt. Or something? I'd call shenanigans but things like this just hurt my head (cf David Murray "clearing" £50m of Rangers' debt buy taking money out of one pocket and putting it in another).

How did Hearts amass £35m of debt without buying (m)any good players or paying top wages?

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Monday, 25 October 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

No idea. (bearing in mind they sold a Craig Gordon as well). My head was totally hurting even thinking about Vlad sitting either side of the counter at the bank he owns with his Hearts hat on on one side and his Ukio Bank hat on on the other. I thought "weird" about covered it.

ailsa, Monday, 25 October 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/aberdeen/9121100.stm

The Aberdeen manager then defended his own record as a manager, stating: "Go and look me up on Wikipedia. I've got a track record.

ahahaha

So I did

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_McGhee

This spotlighted him as an up-and-coming young manager and he was offered the chance to move to Premier League Leicester City. His move in December 1994 came despite having agreed a long term contract to remain at Reading. However, he joined with the Foxes adrift in the relegation zone and was unable to keep them up, finishing second bottom.
He remained at Filbert Street post-relegation and set about launching a promotion campaign but did not see the season out after being approached by Wolverhampton Wanderers. He left to take control at Wolves in December 1995, less than 12 months after arriving at Leicester. This was the second successive time he had walked out on his post, creating a media image of him as being disloyal and ruthlessly ambitious.

...
their early season form returned in the final months and they failed to win any of their final 8 fixtures, ending in 20th, just 3 points clear of relegation, marking their lowest finish since returning to the division in 1989.

...
a poor string of results in the final 10 games, allowed surprise package Barnsley to snatch second place behind runaway champions Bolton Wanderers, condemning Wolves to the play-offs. McGhee saw his team concede two late goals in a 3–1 defeat at Crystal Palace in their semi final tie, which ultimately cost them the chance of reaching the Premier League

...
The 1997/98 season saw the club largely outside the play-off places, ending in 9th

...
the following twelve brought just two victories. This prompted Wolves to fire him on 5 November 1998

...
The 2002–03 season saw McGhee take the club to 9th, falling eight points short of another play-off finish. The next season saw things take a downward turn as his relationship with chairman Theo Paphitis strained and players began to be sold. McGhee left The New Den on 15 October 2003, following a 0–1 home defeat to Preston North End

...
He managed to keep the club in the Championship the following season in 2004/05, finishing 20th, their highest league position in 14 years.
However, he led the club to relegation the following season, when they were finally mathematically condemned at home by Sheffield Wednesday. McGhee was sacked as Brighton manager on 8 September 2006

...
His first competitive match in charge turned out to be a complete disaster as Aberdeen were beaten 5–1 at home by Czech team SK Sigma Olomouc in the Europa League on 30 July 2009.[11] On 6 August 2009, they lost the return leg 3–0.[12] This 8–1 aggregate defeat is Aberdeen's heaviest in UEFA competition. After another poor result against first division side Raith Rovers in February, McGhee claimed he was spat at by members of the Aberdeen support

ahahaha

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 10:09 (fifteen years ago)

Recommended for the Celtic job an' all (thanks to a bit of not-reading-Wikipedia from his mate Gordon Strachan). And shortlisted for the Scotland job when Levein got it. Well done everyone everywhere for everything involving McGhee's managerial career. Including himself.

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 12:41 (fifteen years ago)

Celtic on free to air telly tonight - first time in yonks.

First rong commentary "we knew Celtic would line up 4-4-2" - obviously hasn't watched Celtic since we were last on free to air telly.

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

i don't actually have an aerial and i don't know if i can be bothered watching this shite on my computer. Put it on the tranny and play the xbox i think is the way for me to go.

C. Tuomas Howell (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

Seems Sami, Loovens and Stokes didn't do enough to play their way out of the team on Sunday.

Or maybe they did and this is the new second string for the CIS Cup...

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

Stokes is magic I tells ya!

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

What crisis? :P

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)

holy shit lol

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

Haha,why doesn't this happen when I watch?

C. Tuomas Howell (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

lol at "they're having kittens at the back here, St Johnstone". Why, they do know that's Anthony Stokes and Niall McGinn there, and not like Messi and Drogba, right?

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)

oh look, another linesman on the cunt list - good goal disallowed then St J score at other end

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

fucking hell, taxi for Loovens please. Shitey linesman yet again. pfunkboy's been awfy quiet this last few weeks of shit-fan-interfacing.

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

Loovens clears the ball.

Commentator "Glenn Loovens away"
Me: "yay! oh, not actually REALLY away. Booo!"

I hate hating on Celtic players. I stand up for the pishest of the pish. But I really can't do it for Loovens at all.

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

Blokes on Another Forum wanting Hooiveld back in for the weekend. Rock. Hard place. Frying Pan. Fire.

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

Heard from a friend of a friend who knows a guy that Lennie told Hooiveld he'll never kick another ball for Celtic.

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

Let's count the central defenders on the bench should Glennda manage to get injured bouncing off of Colin Samuel.

Subs: Zaluska, Juarez, Crosas, McCourt, Mulgrew

uh...

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

No loss afaic. Get Rogne necking the painkillers pronto and get the chequebook out in January.

Um, OK. Let's revert to plan "give the ball to Paddy McCourt and just try to score more than we let in"

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

..if anything happens to Glenda, like.

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

Thought maybe something might have happened to him at half time but he seems to have somehow escaped a doing from Mjallby.

Getting pissed off with the entire narrative being about how St Johnstone can get back into this and what they need to do etc - you'd think we didn't score three goals in seven minutes.

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

I sort of like how they keep referring to Chris Millar as "chrismillar" (all one word), because it is making me sing Bohemian Rhapsody to myself to distract myself from the rest of the gibbering.

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

(I am v. easily entertaining when sitting at home on my own with nowt but a bottle of wine and the internet for company, obv)

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

I'm assuming they had all their "Celtic haven't lost two games on the bounce since..." stats all looked out, and are just using them anyway, even if it's when we've got a free kick in a dangerous position and we're already 3-1 up.

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

fucking hell :-(

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

fuckin shambles tbh

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

hell of a miss from Hooper

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

Christ aye. These commentators are doing my head in, btw.

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

If this was someone else's team I'd be laughing my ass off at this shit. We're one more ball into the box from a "three nil and you fucked it up" chant.

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

We were a bad linesman call away from going 4-0 up and demoralising the fuck out of them. Not that that is any excuse at all for even looking like chucking away a three-goal lead, which we do every time they get forward. Where's all this belief and thunder and passion and shit we were promised?

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

Um, wrong use of shit. I know where that is...

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

tbf big Johan's looking fairly thunderous

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

Hooper ffs

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

commentators going on about how that "penalty" decision was spot on, yay well done ref etc etc. Was anyone even appealing? He fucking fell over!

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

lol they're telling the viewers to switch over and watch the Apprentice

xpost I think Hooper was appealing tbh

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

really? twat. I think he's very unappealing right now (thank you, I'll be here all week, unfortunately)

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

offside against non interfering Hooper there with Stokes running in on a spilled cross wp linesman

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

"Celtic about to bring Charlie Mulgrew on" omg no

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

haha, was just coming here to say that! WTF?!

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

Bits of the pitch looking unplayable. If it goes to e/t we can maybe hope for an abandonment :)

save of the season there from Forster

Tilting at Bushmills (onimo), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

Fucking hell. Fucking fucking hell. That was terrifying in places.

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

Guess who and where we're playing on Saturday :-(

Least I'll be in the pub for that one.

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:58 (fifteen years ago)

http://i52.tinypic.com/nzn0vb.jpg

might need to open this in a new tab to read it

a fucking abortion (onimo), Friday, 29 October 2010 12:52 (fifteen years ago)

lol

ailsa, Friday, 29 October 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

CIS Semis:
Celtic vs Aberdeen
Rangers vs Motherwell

Ties last weekend in January at Hampden.

a fucking abortion (onimo), Friday, 29 October 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

I like how all the arrows from "Was it a dive?" go to the same place "PENALTY!!!! SWEET!!!!"

a fucking abortion (onimo), Friday, 29 October 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

http://i54.tinypic.com/34zxb44.jpg

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 30 October 2010 22:16 (fifteen years ago)

coo. *grabs popcorn*

ailsa, Saturday, 30 October 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

We should be OK for CIS semi tickets having bothered our arses to go to the Caley game, aye?

ailsa, Saturday, 30 October 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

Also "Super Caley Go Ballistic", um, getting a draw! well done! ballistic!

ailsa, Saturday, 30 October 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)

There's some comedy gold in Craven's interviews. This is going to be brilliant.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2vds50k.jpg

Marked down for booking a hun? Marked down for not sending off a Celtic player? Brilliant. Still, more time to go hanging around listening to CDs with his best mate Terry Butcher :-)

ailsa, Saturday, 30 October 2010 23:31 (fifteen years ago)

Can't see how Dallas can survive this it's true he encouraged his officials to continue lying. Hats off to Steven Craven for coming clean about the whole thing.

a fucking abortion (onimo), Sunday, 31 October 2010 10:56 (fifteen years ago)

Correct. Stewart Regan's not exactly coming up smelling of roses either.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/dundee-united/referee-dougie-mcdonald-lied-over-celtic-penalty-admit-sfa-1.1064819

Dougie came off and gave information to the referee observer about what had happened in that process. You can call it a lie if you wish. I think there’s acceptance that Dougie said things in the heat of the moment that weren’t true.

OK, I'll call it a lie then, if that's OK with you. It wasn't in the heat of the moment, it continued into his referee's report!

I also notice that the lies which suggested Craven resigned because of threats made towards him are also, um, lies. Expect apologies to arrive in the papers carrying the earlier stories of threats and abuse delivered on the back of pigs flying over an icy hell.

I hope some other officials/ex-officials come forward this week and back Craven's allegations of bullying, otherwise it could just be turned into one man bumping his gums about not getting on with his boss.

ailsa, Sunday, 31 October 2010 11:14 (fifteen years ago)

Hearts get wired in an' all, putting right paid to the "it's just moany paranoid Tims" nonsense.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/hearts/205643-hearts-statement-on-referees-in-full/

ailsa, Sunday, 31 October 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

btw, decent result for Mixu's horribles at Swinecastle this afternoon, three excellently-taken goals as well. Decent result for St Midden yesterday an' all, it's starting to look v. interesting down the rotten end of the SPL.

ailsa, Sunday, 31 October 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/celtic/205645-my-goals-are-just-a-bonus-says-celtic-winger-mcginn/

Celtic winger Niall McGinn scored twice to help his side to a 2-0 win at St Johnstone on Saturday

Um, OK?

ailsa, Sunday, 31 October 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

This is incredible, btw.

http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/gordonwaddell/2010/10/regan-must-be-strong-or-games-a-bogey.html

The fact that other teams are moaning as well seems to have passed him by. Jim Gannon had a right good go at it last year just before he left Motherwell, for starters. Craig Levein's not been shy of criticising referees in the past. It's not just Celtic paranoid bleating about a wrong decision that's to blame here, it's exposure of corruption within the SFA (btw, wasn't Peter Houston outspoken about the standard of McDonald's refereeing at Tannadice post-match?).

He seems to be saying that McDonald was made to lie because Celtic would want answers as to why a crucial decision was overturned. Never mind the fact that it WAS overturned and it needs to be explained in the referee's report and basically McDonald didn't have enough conviction in his own original decision to just run with it (yet somehow it's Regan who needs to grow a pair).

ailsa, Sunday, 31 October 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9143038.stm

Martin Cryans denying it all, ignoring the fact that Dallas went on the radio on Monday going along with the untrue version of events, and choosing to have a pop at Craven into the bargain.

"But the suggestions he's making come from someone who, by his own admission, was going by Christmas. He has chosen to go a month early and has given his side of events to a newspaper.

"The guy who was going has chosen to take a pop and there's not much more to it there."

Aye, and he said he was chucking it because of Dallas. Having a pop vs explaining why he felt his position was untenable. Not much more to it except claims of harrassment, bullying and victimisation. So nothing to see here, let's move on, etc. Clown.

Notice how every single BBC report about this has ended with a reminder that the SFA want to speak to Neil Lennon.

ailsa, Sunday, 31 October 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

Was it a penalty? Because everyone I've asked who has seen it (yes inc celtic fans) say it probably wasn't a penalty. Not seen it myself.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 31 October 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

Not the point. The corruption of the officials has been exposed.

Incidentally there was at least one foul on hooper in the box.

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 31 October 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

That's not the point. The point is the lying and the covering up of what happened.

FWIW, I thought it was a penalty at the time. I thought there was a potentially decent shout for one about half a second before it when Gary Kenneth tried to push Gary Hooper off the ball. He stayed up and went over under the challenge from Pernis. McDonald was looking straight at the incident and gave it straight away.

Judge for yourself.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/9126050.stm

xpost!

ailsa, Sunday, 31 October 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

I was just asking if it was a penalty or not. Thanks Ailsa will have a look once I've watched the highlights of us beating the scum over the clyde.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 31 October 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

ok i watched it first, keeper definitely gets the ball before the player no penalty (but it does take replays to prove it). Correct decision was made eventually, but it seems it's not about this anymore , i'll go downstairs and have a read at my dads sunday mail about the cover up.

I'll enjoy the accies game in a min!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

Getting the ball doesn't stop something being a foul.

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

it still wasnt a penalty. My dads still reading the paper will read it later.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

^ this. Hooper was brought down. I still think he'd have had a decent shout at one if he'd not shrugged off the challenge from Kenneth as well. But it's absolutely not even about the penalty decision itself as about the stuff that followed.

Delighted that Hearts have come out with a statement that doesn't involve Vlad chuntering on about monkeys and submarines and birdshit and doesn't have his name attached to it, thereby making a fucking mockery of this paranoid timmy bollocks. I'd like someone to have a wee chat to Jim Gannon as well now that he's out of Scottish football, and I wish Craig Levein hadn't taken the SFA dollar after his broadside at Mike McCurry. I am trying to hope this turning point happening in a game involving a dude on the SFA payroll in his day job doesn't make a difference (considering he had a pop at the ref as well: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/9100198.stm)

ailsa, Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

xpost to jim

ailsa, Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

it doesn't make good reading for Hugh Dallas. Wonder what Dougie McDonald will say about it as it's just 1 guys word against the others at the moment.
I dont think its anti-celtic bias though, god knows how many times dallas has done this when refs have cocked up against other teams.

Motherwell shoulda had a 2nd penalty yesterday judging by the replays. Oh well makes up for the joke decision that cost us the game 3 seasons ago I guess.
Refs in being incompetent shock.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

Video technology and referees explaining big decisions would mean most of this bullshit wouldn't happen, fuck you Platini!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

Um, if referees lie in reports, what's to stop them lying when giving these big explanations in any other forum? Craven has claimed they *did* explain the decision to Neil Lennon. By lying to him.

Oh well makes up for the joke decision that cost us the game 3 seasons ago I guess.

Quality example of "these things even themselves out", near as good as what I read earlier today elsewhere on the internet, which was that Derek Johnstone was on the radio bumping his gums about a penalty decision in 1979!

ailsa, Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

hahaha. the point is the evens itself out thing is bullshit. But at least we got the breaks this time even if it was 3 years late.
Cover ups are another thing entirely and now you wonder if this has happened before but not involving celtic or rangers and that's why it's never come out.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

if this had been dundee utd vs kilmarnock or something then nothing would be made of it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

Um, this hasn't involved Rangers?

ailsa, Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

i said OR, it involves one of them.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

Yes, so why not just mention the one it involves? Do you work for the Daily Record? (thinking of the time they did a "player who plays for one of the Old Firm teams is arrested for being alleged rapey" front cover splash when the players involved were a Rangers player and a St Johnstone player...)

ailsa, Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

Because my point was the same fuss would have happened if it had been rangers instead of celtic, but not killie,accies,inverness or whoever.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 31 October 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

resisting urge to suggest world would spin off axis if dodgy refereeing conspiracies were seen to disadvantage Rangers in any way...

ailsa, Sunday, 31 October 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

Have thought about this a little more now. I'm guessing this came up because it's the first time this guy's been asked to lie to cover something up and it's given him a reason to go to the papers and talk about other stuff that's been bothering him about his part time SFA gig. You'd think if he had been asked to lie in the past about other things in other games not involving Celtic (or Rangers), he might have mentioned it when given an open platform. Maybe he's saving the big Aberdeen v St Mirren tenth-place-tussle revelations for next week's instalment.

Until anyone else comes and speaks out (Craven's interview mentions witnesses to the bullying), I'm treating this as a serious one-off incident, with a separate undercurrent of allegations of workplace harrassment. I presume the Record will have had their lawyers all over it before printing.

I think we all agree that the standard of refereeing is crap right across the board in Scotland. But there's a huge difference between crap refereeing and downright lies about crap refereeing.

Still interested to know where the reports of Craven resigning because of threats made by Celtic fans came from, btw.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 00:21 (fifteen years ago)

Off to bed in a sec, but here's Dougie's take on it.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/3205450/I-refuse-to-quit-I-can-be-trusted-to-ref-Old-Firm-again.html

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 00:28 (fifteen years ago)

Heard him being interviewed on Radio Scotland this morning on my way into work, peddling the "we've all told little white lies" line. Amusingly, he couldn't actually get his own details straight, claiming that Craven removed "my, I mean his" communication earpiece thingie.

Keep digging, Dougie!

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 11:11 (fifteen years ago)

Dundee scudded with a 25-point deduction.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

Is there a precedent for such a large point deduction?

treefell, Monday, 1 November 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

Accies got 15 points deducted which relegated us when the dodgy board failed to pay the wages again and again and the players went on strike.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

treefell, I think it's because they've been in administration before, maybe? It seems ludicrously large and a fairly arbitrarily-chosen figure, aye. Certain relegation, you would think, which won't help their financial plight at all.

Am I right in saying they don't own their stadium so they can't sell up for supermarket/housing and move in to Tannadice?

I'm not saying they shouldn't be punished, but effectively giving their rivals 25 points of a headstart seems way too much of a "that'll teach you for living outside your means" point to make.

I must confess I haven't been paying as much attention as I could have been - I thought Calum Melville had ringfenced some money to pay of HMRC, but owing the taxman rather than the rest of their creditors seems to be the reason they are being scapegoated to this extent which I hope serves as a warning to Certain Other Club(s).

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

(also not paying attention to the difference between "of" and "off", obviously)

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

Weren't Livvie relegated two full divisions?

Anyone who's seen Morton play this season might think Dundee are still in with a shout.

a fucking abortion (onimo), Monday, 1 November 2010 18:08 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah. I think that was due to some technicality between administration and insolvency though, which my brain cannot compute because everything else has broken it. Same thing happened to Gretna iirc.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

Livingston was because they could not fulfil their fixtures. Gretna went totally bust and didn't come back in the 3rd.
Remember this is the 2nd time in 7 years Dundee, have effectively cheated, by living beyond their means. Whilst I have sympathy for their fans ,and the players out of a job, the club twice in 7 years have went into administration and there needs to be a higher penalty. The SFL relegated Accies for much less so the same should happen to Dundee.

But Dundee fans should not give up hope, Accies got good owners and turned the club around, A club of Dundee's size should be able to do the same.

If Rangers had went into administration, I wonder if they would have been docked points? (my guess is no unless they were clear at the top of the SPL by 10 points).

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

Well if they did, I imagine they would have to be or there would be hell to pay.

Livi refused to play a third division fixture as a stance against their relegation, which took place in the close season after they had gone into administration. As I read it, there was concern that their financial situation meant they might not be able to fulfil their fixtures in the first division, it wasn't they actually failed to do so.

Gretna resigned from the league after they were relegated to the third, but that doesn't alter the fact that they were relegated due to their potential inability to fulfil fixtures as a result of being placed in administration.

I don't think anyone's doubting Dundee's ability to fulfil their fixtures, so that'll maybe be why they've been hit with a deduction rather than relegation. I'm still not sure why potentially not fulfilling your fixtures in a different division is an answer to anything though.

Very many clubs are living beyond their means, and I don't see condemning them to gates of 300 people as a way of getting anyone their money back. Now I'm off to google what happened to that money Melville gave them to pay off HMRC.

Thought you'd have been more raging at Motherwell avoiding relegation after administration because Brockville was too shite for the SPL.

Once we're done with the refs, let's get transparency everywhere else, eh?

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

Ah, Melville's money didn't go far enough and they still owed the taxman loads more. Hopefully putting the shits up some other clubs.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

I'm still raging those fuckers in the mid 80s were saved by league reconstruction brought in just to keep them in the Premier League because they were a big team.

The whole not allowing Falkirk up thing was an embarrassment to Scottish football and showed the world what a joke closed shop the SPL was at the time.

I still hate (the late) alex cameron (and also at the time, Terry Butcher) who wanted a top 10 of the biggest supported clubs in the Premier League with no relegation and thought the other clubs should cease to exist. This was late 80s when they wanted to scrap the 12 team league.

Alex Cameron made Hugh Keevins look sensible.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

And you guys know how much I hate Hugh Keevins.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

Am not convinced someone else is going to put money into a sinking ship with no assets, but I hope to be proved wrong, because more clubs going tits up is not what Scottish football needs at all.

What we need is a more competitive league structure that allows promotion and relegation on a more than one-up-one-down basis, better TV money or the ability to survive on what's available, less chance of being fucked over in Europe on a regular basis allowing yr Motherwells, yr Hearts, yr Dundee United the ability to make a bob or two out of decent league runs thereby building their ability to challenge more effectively in the SPL making it a better competition that more people want to pay to see (through the gates OR on telly). When we're done with that, I'll have the moon on a stick please.

Dundee are ostensibly fucked because they're trading like an SPL club without any of the SPL benefits, and fuck all chance of getting those benefits back any time soon. This is where Gretna and Livi failed, Motherwell could have failed, why Partick/Clyde etc get so near then find themselves twatted. They could operate like yr Raiths and Ross Counties and whatever, but there's got to be some incentive to try and attain the bigger prizes or else more is going to go very wrong for more people as it continues and the gap will get wider and wider.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

The problem is that Celtic & Rangers usually oppose a bigger league set up as that means they have to share all the money with other teams. Walter Smith might be in favour of a 14 team league but I doubt the rangers board are. Celtic's board definitely oppose it and every year try to get into the english league (so not gonna happen).

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

Id rather see a 16 team league with 30 games a season leaving free weeks for international & european games, but then clubs complain they lose too much revenue from gate money.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

And they'd be right. Reducing games and gates isn't going to help anything.

Celtic don't try every year to get in the English leagues, do you have evidence of this? It's mentioned in dispatches from time to time, but not as a going concern. tbh, if the status quo continues up here, it's seeming like a more viable way to keep gates and interest up (not to mention getting the fuck away from the SFA and SPL). Rangers' board voting for less games - turkeys voting for Christmas.

Without the TV money (this has been discussed on, I think, the football finances thread with actual figures and percentages), everyone's fucked. So without some other strategy (which I am way too underqualified to work out), everyone's fucked and everything stays as it is. No-one clinging onto the little scraps available is going to vote for potentially less.

You're voting for only four games against the big two rather than 6 or 8 (depending on top six pish, which is another load of old arse) is potentially taking money off yourselves, btw. You would really rather play Ross County in Dingwall a couple of times a year instead?

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

Tv rights are too paltry. Majority of Celtic's revenue is ticket sales. Best attended games are against Rangers. Why should we sacrifice cash we badly need (to remain competitive in Europe - if we're even doing that now: ok we aren't) to bring even more dire teams into our top division?

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Monday, 1 November 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

Altruism, like what pfunkboy seems to be wanting from the big two? If a more competitive and open league brings in more interest/punters-through-turnstiles/sponsorship and TV money, I'd be all for it. But it won't.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

in other words jim doesnt care about scottish football as a whole, only celtic.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

= the whole problem with scottish football

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

and yes id rather teams only played each other twice. Its boring watching 1 team playing another 4 sometimes 5 or 6 times in one season. Jim might want to watch rangers 4 times a season, but does he want to watch "dire teams" 4 times a season?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

First off I've never claimed to care about Scottish football. The majority of teams that play us have supporters come to our ground and sing the billy boys - fuck them.

But: more teams equals more games approaching 3 figure crowds. The more home games against the old firm a small club plays the better for them financially.

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Monday, 1 November 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

I'd rather watch that Killie v Hearts game I watched on Sunday than watch another second of Rangers, btw.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

Jim, tbh, there were massive gaps in the crowd at McDiarmid Park on Saturday. The cup game on Wednesday was pay at the gate for away fans. The idea that people get the crowds in when Celtic or Rangers come calling has gone. They're losing out to the TV, and the TV money isn't covering the losses.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

does gate money even get split, btw, or am I swallowing some big-payday-at-Ibrox-or-Celtic-Park myth about where clubs get their money from?

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

No, I'm making it up. Ignore my earlier point about turkeys voting for Christmas. Though I'd bet more Celtic or Rangers fans would rock up in away ends than Ross County or QotS fans. Might be wrong.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

hang on, that wasn't my turkeys voting for Christmas point. This is what happens when I go off and concentrate on something less boring for a bit. Let me regroup. I meant my "not going to Ibrox or Celtic Park twice each a season for dosh" thing.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

Exactly, games against rangers or celtic, whilst bigger than other games, still dont sell out, nowhere near.
People cant afford £20 to go see Accies (or more for bigger teams) , the standard is shite,refs are shite and every team thinks the ref is biased against them, not just celtic fans,the games are on TV, you play teams 4 times a season and its boring. Hardly anyone goes to football in december/jan/feb cuz theyre skint and the weathers shite. If its on TV its hardly surprising people stay at home. Unfortunately noone has the answer to change all this. But only caring about your own team certainly wont fix it, and as ailsa says, club owners arent going to sacrifice some money to make everything else better. They will look after themselves and themselves only. The fans dont get a say.
In short, football is fucked.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

cup games get split 50/50, thats what you were thinking of I think

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

Some might say that the four home games against the old firm is clubs leeching off celtic & rangers, but since celtic & rangers wont want to lose the money from their 2 home games against each other, does that mean celtic & rangers leech off each other? lol

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, probably.

If people want to go see their team, they'll find a way of affording it. I do. Fuck it if it's fucked, tbh, it's still my team.

People presumably can afford £20 to see Accies, btw, or you'd be playing to empty grounds every week.

not just celtic fan

No-one on here thinks it's just Celtic fans.

xpost lol? I would gladly ban them from Celtic Park. I'd rather they fucked off forever and we won the league every year and got into the Champions Laegue and "leeched off" (really?) Man Utd and Barcelona every year. But aye, I absolutely don't have a problem in principle with playing more teams less often. bring them all on. Doesn't mean it's going to happen.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

We could get capacity crowds playing against everyone in SPL within the last 10 years, btw. Didn't matter if it was Rangers or Kilmarnock. A return to that would be nice. No leeching off of anyone, just people actually willing to pay to see what was on offer.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

Bring prices down and attendances will rise. Celtic & Rangers are slightly different in that as there's so many of them, if they sign superstars the punters will gladly pay extra to watch them.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

Issue of the cost of tickets is sort of moot. In order to run a football club a lot of revenue is needed that isn't going to magic itself into club coffers.

Don't see how more teams improves anything.seeing mirren twice at Celtic park in a season vis a vis seeing them once and Patrick thistle once equals who cares?also less games against well supported clubs would mean less televised games and therefore less money for smaller clubs?

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Monday, 1 November 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

Celtic couldn't afford superstars even if they doubled the price of tickets.

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Monday, 1 November 2010 21:10 (fifteen years ago)

You get your money at the start of season. You don't get extra if you do get a game shown on tv.(unless its a cup game) Celtic & Rangers get the biggest amount. Clubs get a lot less now than they did with Setanta.

Generally the only time a club like accies gets on tv is a home game against Celtic or Rangers. Because its on tv, the games dont sell out. Rangers & Celtic home games are never shown unless its derby games to protect the clubs gates falling. The rational is that home games vs the old firm the #s still go up compared to normal games.
But if you take away the TV money, most clubs would go to the wall. There is no way that will fix things and get the backing of every club.(i think you need either celtic or rangers to back it as 10 other clubs vs the 2 old firm votes arent enough to change anything IIRC) So you get the status quo with the odd tinkering with expanding/minimising leagues every so often.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 21:15 (fifteen years ago)

Yes you get the money at the start of the season: presumably less money if there's more teams and less games against the old firm on the cards.

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Monday, 1 November 2010 21:20 (fifteen years ago)

I dont think the lack of old firm games would make a difference. You get the same money whether you have 30 or zero games on tv BUT obviously 14 or 16 teams getting a split is less than 12.

The problem is rangers and celtic are far bigger financially than anyone else, this is exacerbated by the allocation of tv money each season. If everyone got an equal split then the gap wouldnt be as much, but of course celtic & rangers would complain the money is only there because of them, so they want the lions share (lets face it, they want the lot).

There is no way out of this. I can only see this north atlantic league happening as the EPL wont lets celtic or rangers in, again clubs wont be turkeys voting for themselves at christmas.

But i still dont see the NAL happening in the next 5 years at least if ever.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

I don't hold much hope for an escape from sphell.

Rangers and Celtic get more money because they attract the viewers.as much as it pains me to say it probably over 50% of Scots who like football I.e. are rangers supporters (with or without a fondness for a local side).do you propose they receive a disproportionately small amount of the tv money?

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Monday, 1 November 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)

I.e. the majority I meant to write.

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Monday, 1 November 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)

Have you got figures for how the Sky & ESPN money is split? I tried googling but couldn't find anything? Isn't there a requirement to go to each ground a certain number of times a season? Obviously get better ratings if you pick each team hosting Celtic and Rangers, but there are others shown too.

Do the BBC pay for the games they show on a delayed broadcast on Alba? I don't think Celtic or Rangers ever feature on those.

(I'm watching something else on telly just now so no time for extensive googling, sorry)

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)

do you propose they receive a disproportionately small amount of the tv money?

I didn't say that. I'm just saying if you want a more competitive league, that would be the best way so everyone works off the same money. I'm not saying its fair to celtic or rangers. It's not. I also said it will never happen.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

lol, never occurred to me to look at the SPL website!

+ How is commercial and broadcasting revenue distributed between SPL clubs?
All revenues generated by the SPL are effectively put into one pot. A support payment to the SFL and parachute payments to recently relegated clubs are then deducted from that pot. All associated costs of running the SPL are also deducted.

The remaining amount is split two ways to the member clubs: 48% is divided equally between all 12 clubs while 52% is distributed to teams dependant upon their final league position. The higher up the table that a club finishes, the more money they will receive.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 22:22 (fifteen years ago)

i.e. Rangers and Celtic get more money because they finish higher up the league.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

That sounds fairer than "oh we have a bigger support give us the money". Only problem is the differences in finances means noone else will ever challenge. Rangers were skint yet still won 2 leagues in a row.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)

Are those last two sentences not contradictory? No-one can challenge because they haven't got the money but Rangers don't have money either and they still win by miles?

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

Larger support means that the old firm contribute the viewers which earns the money. So essentially the rest of the league is already being subsidised by the OF.

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Monday, 1 November 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

Addendum: I realise Rangers make their own extra money from gate receipts, so still not entirely level, but they weren't spending it on players

xpost, aye, but that works in every league in the world. You think Blackpool are getting the EPL megabucks because they're Blackpool, or because everyone wuvs watching The Best League In The World Ever? That La Liga rights are flying out the door so everyone can watch Hercules and Malaga?

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 22:48 (fifteen years ago)

Barca and real get over 50% of the rights iirc.then remaining big teams, valencia,atleti,depor maybe,athletic?, get a proportion,then the remaining loads of teams split slightly less again.

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Monday, 1 November 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

Rangers & Celtic home games are never shown unless its derby games to protect the clubs gates falling. The rational is that home games vs the old firm the #s still go up compared to normal games.

Not true. Each SPL club is guaranteed at least four home league games shown a season. We only play Rangers twice. I think we had home games against Hibs and Hearts shown last year.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 23:25 (fifteen years ago)

Celtic's board definitely oppose it and every year try to get into the english league (so not gonna happen).

Your source for this "definitely"? I never see anything more than rumour or speculation about who voted for what.

Last I heard Celtic were prepared to vote in favour of a 14 team league with a 6-8 split (play 13 teams twice then the other top five twice = 36 games).

I believe this will happen very soon, possibly even this season (saving Hibs?).

I don't really care if we play St Mirren four times or them twice and Raith Rovers twice but I think we should give it a go and see what happens. The status quo certainly isn't working.

a fucking abortion (onimo), Monday, 1 November 2010 23:26 (fifteen years ago)

well Peter Lawwell likes to go on about it. I'd say that is more than rumour and speculation.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 1 November 2010 23:29 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah Peter Lawell mentions the English league occasionally as a wee pipe dream to gee up the disillusioned masses - it doesn't work. I was referring to you saying the Celtic board definitely opposed restructuring and asking where you got that from.

a fucking abortion (onimo), Monday, 1 November 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)

Your source for this "definitely"? I never see anything more than rumour or speculation about who voted for what.

I already asked for that, as well as for proof of "The problem is rangers and celtic are far bigger financially than anyone else, this is exacerbated by the allocation of tv money each season. If everyone got an equal split then the gap wouldnt be as much, but of course celtic & rangers would complain the money is only there because of them, so they want the lions share (lets face it, they want the lot)." I ended up googling the TV money bit myself and found that almost half the income of the SPL is split equally and the rest goes on prize money via league placings, so it's not directly going deliberately to Celtic and Rangers.

I can't find any evidence of Celtic opposing reconstruction and the last stuff I found about Celtic (and Rangers) trying to get into the English league set-up was mooted by the chairman of Bolton.

But you can't beat a bit of anti-OF conspiracy theorising with nothing to back it up.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)

Kerr, if the league was reconstructed and you got to play, say, Cowdenbeath or Ross County or Queen of the South as well as Aberdeen, Hibs, Killie, etc - would you be more likely to go along each week?

I'll go and watch Celtic play whoever they are playing, but I pays my money upfront. This season and last I didn't even know who our manager was going to be, let along what sort of team I'd be watching. I'm guessing I'm not the lost-to-the-SPL fan that reconstruction would be chasing back (I even watch games on the telly not involving my team some weeks, I believe despite your protestations that you don't get on the telly unless you're playing Celtic or Rangers I might even have watched Hearts v Hamilton just this very season!), so perhaps I'm not best placed to gauge what would happen.

ailsa, Monday, 1 November 2010 23:45 (fifteen years ago)

not been following much, but this peno that the linesman's quit over- was a peno, right?

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:33 (fifteen years ago)

^ lol

ailsa, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 09:05 (fifteen years ago)

btw, Hugh Dallas not going anywhere. Dougie McDonald not going anywhere. Nothing to see here, lying is OK, let's move on.

(though lolling at the fact that Dougie McDonald now in trouble for saying Santa doesn't exist in his "explanation" of when it's OK to tell a lie!)

ailsa, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

Look everyone, Celtic are signing another midfielder! Just what we need...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/9150885.stm

ailsa, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

lololol, just googled to find out why Rangers had "Respect" in place of "Tennents" on front of their shirts:

http://www.rangers.co.uk/articles/20101101/gers-show-respect_2254024_2204221

Regulations are in place in Spain which does not allow alcohol shirt sponsorship at any football match so the decision was taken to pass over the shirt space to RESPECT - a campaign that underlines respect for the game, opponents, fans, referees and rules and ensures integrity and diversity exists at football's highest echelons

There's so many levels of "WTF haha yeah right" that I don't even know where to start.

ailsa, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

RESPECT leader passes judgement

a fucking abortion (onimo), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 00:14 (fifteen years ago)

I initially thought it was just on McGregor's shirt, thought that Tennents had objected to some booze-fuelled rampage of his that I missed.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 03:47 (fifteen years ago)

That falsified document in full: http://bit.ly/bJwZSq

scotstvo, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

Gary Hooper thinks referees "want" to give decisions against Celtic because they are one of the world's big clubs.

The striker was asked if the Glasgow side have a disproportionate amount of decisions given against them.

"We are one of the biggest teams in the world and everyone wants to beat us, all the teams," said Hooper.

"The referee wants to give a decision against us so he can say something after the game. I think all the big teams get it."

hahahahahahahahahahahahahag
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

oh my

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:54 (fifteen years ago)

first time ive ever heard anyone say the big teams get the wrong decisions against wee teams due to biased refereeing. Someones spiked the water at celtic park methinks.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

You've honestly never heard a Celtic player or supporter think that they get discriminated against? Really? I think we've mentioned several times on this thread some ridiculous refereeing decisions that have gone against Celtic and they aren't just when we're playing Rangers.

I assume you're not going to provide evidence for your earlier claims of yearly attempts to get Celtic into the SPL, or answer my question about effect league reconstruction would have on your attendance at games (taking you as the only regular contributor to this thread who doesn't regularly attend games, but used to, I think?).

ailsa, Thursday, 4 November 2010 09:30 (fifteen years ago)

out of the SPL/into the EPL. Take your pick. Still hadn't had my coffee at that stage.

Excited about our upcoming friendly against the Faroes then, everyone? Thought not. Is nice to see the idea of giving young chaps a go instead of just wheeling guys that we know what they can do back in to replace players playing too many games (i.e. Elbows and Weary).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/9156631.stm

^ I watched this Barry Bannan chappie for the Under 21s in a game I was at last year. He was definitely our outstanding player on the day (not saying much, tbh, but he looked a wee touch of class)

ailsa, Thursday, 4 November 2010 11:21 (fifteen years ago)

so you think referee's are biased against big teams like Hooper says? I think if anyone truly believes that they need help. The whole idea of referees being biased AGAINST big teams is laughable.

Im not googling for how many times lawwell has sugested joining the EPL, hes said it often enough and you know it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:51 (fifteen years ago)

infact im staying off this thread again for a while. I'm fed up with this whole paranoia bullshit.
I only came here because i was summoned on that other thread.
If anyone wishes to talk to me they can do so via aim,googlechat, msn or email.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:54 (fifteen years ago)

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pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:54 (fifteen years ago)

you don't need to be such a fanny about spitting the dummy out.

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 4 November 2010 17:13 (fifteen years ago)

in the week when it's actually been revealed that officials have lied about a decision made during a Celtic game it still gets called paranoia. GIRUY.

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 4 November 2010 17:14 (fifteen years ago)

So, Kapo, anyone ever been less inspired by a signing? Ah well, good luck to him. Most interesting thing about his signing is that he appears to have been assigned the number 77 jersey, so we now have a 77 and an 88 in Hooper. The prince among men Antonio Cassano wears the number 99 for Sampdoria* though, so he's got them beaten.

*apparently his preferred number is 18, but it was taken so he opted for 99 as 9+9=18.

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 4 November 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

anyone ever been less inspired by a signing

Me, when Darryl Murphy showed up. See also Mulgrew, Charlie.

In the event you're still lurking, Kerr, I was genuinely interested in what effect league reconstruction would have on an armchair supporter such as yourself. But if all you're interested in is blindly getting a rise of people who are prepared to actually develop their own arguments without doing so yourself, then fine.

fwiw, yes, I do believe that Celtic are, on occasion, treated differently by referees. I'm not necessarily extending this "big teams" as a whole, as I don't pay massive amounts of attention to any other big teams on a consistent basis, but yes, Celtic do get treated differently by some referees within the confines of the SPL (players being booked for leaving the field of play to celebrate goals seems to happen disproportionately to Celtic, that insane booking Artur Boruc copped against Falkirk last season which hasn't happened to any other keeper), and I can see how Gary Hooper could answer as such when prompted to comment by a hack. I could google up some anecdotal evidence, but with Kerr's dummy out the pram, I'd be preaching to the converted. I'm happy to try and do so if required though.

ailsa, Thursday, 4 November 2010 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

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a fucking abortion (onimo), Thursday, 4 November 2010 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

um.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 6 November 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)

christ dissolve the spl already

acoleuthic, Saturday, 6 November 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ an xpost after a 2-day gap (3 seconds between posts)

acoleuthic, Saturday, 6 November 2010 16:50 (fifteen years ago)

Not over yet, you can still end up with more goals than players?

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Saturday, 6 November 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)

granite city more like gannet clitty amirite

Adrian Roosevelt "Adie" Mike (nakhchivan), Saturday, 6 November 2010 16:56 (fifteen years ago)

Best! Game! Ever!

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

Made even better by Henrik Larsson and Chris Sutton doing the half-time draw. If I'd won it, I'd have asked him how he felt about his cruel exclusion from the ILF HOF.

Lovely moment when Paul Hartley went over to take a corner at the Celtic end to a standing ovation, we know how to treat returning heroes. Even lovelier when he took one for his mates shortly after :-)

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

surely you must feel sick after watching that and knowing that your league is a joke

acoleuthic, Saturday, 6 November 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

No, Aberdeen are a joke. Not the same thing.

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)

Also bullet dodged - we were a bawhair away from having McGhee as our manager!

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

Seriously, Aberdeen were possibly the worst team I've ever seen, and I've been to second division games and used to watch the Highland League on a regular basis. By the end I think they'd just given up, but even before that they were just rank rotten.

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

yeah lj i don't think spl viewers are unaware of the lack of quality in that league, but within that what are you going to do? no more dispiriting than watching cristiano ronaldo try to score five against _______ (hence i don't bother)

Adrian Roosevelt "Adie" Mike (nakhchivan), Saturday, 6 November 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

someone invite kapo to 77

sometimes do idly wonder what would happen if celtic would went full nazi and try to build a team blooded only from the youth ranks

cozémon (cozen), Saturday, 6 November 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

has any maddie on the internet put together a litany of the bad decisions that have gone against celtic in the spl over the years? must be one out there somewhere

cozémon (cozen), Saturday, 6 November 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

they could use a borrowed kapo first amirite

Adrian Roosevelt "Adie" Mike (nakhchivan), Saturday, 6 November 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

(xp)

Adrian Roosevelt "Adie" Mike (nakhchivan), Saturday, 6 November 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

btw, there was a massive stushie a few years back in the press when Celtic had the audacity to stick 8 past Dunfermline, one leading hack even claiming it was embarrassing and suggesting that Celtic should have eased off for the good of the game and suchlike, much like LJ is doing here. Don't recall anyone calling for the Prem to be disbanded when Man Utd scudded Ipswich.

cozen, aye, they have. I'll try and look it up for you. Google "honest mistakes" and a couple of the usual suspect names (McCurry, Brines) and you might find it?

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

there's supposedly a bit of a taboo against huge thrashings in italy (and southern europe generally)

a few years ago roma beat one of the stragglers 7-0, and there was a lot of bad blood near the end and in the aftermath cuz it was thought they should have eased off once victory was assured

but the idea of a team doing that just to uphold the nonexistent (e)quality of the league is risible

Adrian Roosevelt "Adie" Mike (nakhchivan), Saturday, 6 November 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

I mind we were scudding Aberdeen (yes, them again) up at Pittodrie a few years ago. I think it was 4-0 when Celtic were denied a stonewall penalty (lol really). Scott Booth (ex-Aberdeen player, btw) laughed and said it would have been unfair to Aberdeen if we'd gone further ahead. IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK LIKE THAT!

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

btw, just to round off a corking wee for everyone's favourite head of refereeing development:

http://www.philmacgiollabhain.com/just-a-joke/

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

um, week. not wee. even though he's pish, lol amirite?

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

I parsed that the first time as "I just had a cracking wee" and thought you had just drunk a bit too much after the match.

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Saturday, 6 November 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

No drink at all after match! Several lined up though.

Just realised I have mod powers and could have deleted that post :-(

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

Haha

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Saturday, 6 November 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

http://oi55.tinypic.com/25fna6u.jpg

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

CONSPIRACY!

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Saturday, 6 November 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

now now, we don't do conspiracies here. But that Dallas brandishing a card at Pope image is a doozy and too good to pass up.

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

no wonder he looks so nervous, if he's going to make that gesture to the pope he's gotta get the angle right [via the pope having plenty of practice]

Adrian Roosevelt "Adie" Mike (nakhchivan), Saturday, 6 November 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

Had the pleasure of watching young Andrew Dallas refereeing today. You'll have him to look forward to in a few years :)

scotstvo, Saturday, 6 November 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

Jesus, they're breeding referees now!

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

They're like Sontarans, they just grow them in a tank.

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Saturday, 6 November 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

btw, should also point out two hat-tricks today and I wouldn't have given either of them man of the match, that honour goes firmly to Shaun Maloney.

Also kudos to Stokes for having the opportunity to up his goal tally by taking the third penalty and instead passing it over to Paddy McCourt just as we were all agreeing that a Paddy McCourt goal would be the icing on the cake. Was hoping for a dribbling-round-every-remaining-sheeep-twice type goal, but I'll take any Paddy moment where I can get it.

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)

christ dissolve the spl already
...
surely you must feel sick after watching that and knowing that your league is a joke

gtfo with the weak troll trying to have a dig at Celtic on the one day we hook everything up. It was a freak scoreline against a team that up until very recently often did well against Celtic.

Since March:
Chelsea 6-0 West Brom
Wigan 0-6 Chelsea
Chelsea 7-1 Aston Villa
Chelsea 7-0 Stoke
Chelsea 8-0 Wigan

Dissolve the English Premier League now?

the reasonable one (onimo), Saturday, 6 November 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah,chelsea stick goals past minnows with more regularity and alacrity than we ever will.

I considered not going today.hangover and dreich(?). Best decision ever!

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 6 November 2010 23:07 (fifteen years ago)

Also get Dallas to fuck. Bigot wank.

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 6 November 2010 23:09 (fifteen years ago)

We were talking on the way to the game about how Aberdeen games are never dull. Weren't expecting that though :-)

Hope Chris Maguire's enjoying his copy of today's paper:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/aberdeen/2010/11/06/we-can-take-advantage-of-celtic-s-shaky-defence-insists-aberdeen-hit-kid-chris-maguire-86908-22696591/

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 23:20 (fifteen years ago)

Some corking goals in the SPL today, just watching the goals on Sky Sports News. Michel Duberry lucky that he's not even the scorer of the comediest own goal of the day.

ailsa, Saturday, 6 November 2010 23:27 (fifteen years ago)

Hope Chris Maguire's enjoying his copy of today's paper:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/aberdeen/2010/11/06/we-can-take-advantage-of-celtic-s-shaky-defence-insists-aberdeen-hit-kid-chris-maguire-86908-22696591/

Chris Maguire's really been paying attention
"If you look at Celtic's record you will see they have conceded in every league game they have played this season apart from last Saturday at Perth."

Except for the 1-0 away at Inverness, 4-0 at home vs St Mirren, 1-0 away at Motherwell and 3-0 at home vs Hearts he's on the money. 6 clean sheets out of 11 in the league - maybe Mark McGhee should have a word with him about the danger of telling someone to go and look at records.

the reasonable one (onimo), Sunday, 7 November 2010 00:15 (fifteen years ago)

haha, I didn't even register that bit, tbh. Also aye, blind ignorance of fact is a nice wee trait developing in sheepland.

Heard from a friend of a friend who knows a guy that Lennie told Hooiveld he'll never kick another ball for Celtic.

Amazing the difference a Rogne suspension and a Wilson injury can make. Presume Hooiveld back in on the "at least you're not Glenn Loovens" rule.

Forgot there's a midweek card this week. Rogne suspended for Swinecastle, I take it?

ailsa, Sunday, 7 November 2010 00:27 (fifteen years ago)

Craig Thompson chopped off a Rangers goal for nothing there. It's a conspiracy.

the reasonable one (onimo), Sunday, 7 November 2010 12:48 (fifteen years ago)

Then a pen against them, they're really overdoing the "things balancing themselves out" thing this week. SFA making a concerted effort to stop Celtic from moaning at them impo.

the reasonable one (onimo), Sunday, 7 November 2010 13:37 (fifteen years ago)

Worked on the huns in the pub this afternoon "aye, they tims can stop bleating about never getting decisions, look at that, three pens, us getting a goal chalked off, omg, penalty against us, blah blah". Aye, one fucking weekend. Well done.

(lol at impo, btw)

ailsa, Sunday, 7 November 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)

Calderwood out, btw. And I assume the DEEKVOLUTION is off, aye, since he's now got himself suspended for the midweeker at Ibrox?

ailsa, Sunday, 7 November 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

Rob McLean appears to be doing a Movember tache. It's the 8th already, surely he should have sprouted more fluff than that?

ailsa, Monday, 8 November 2010 23:16 (fifteen years ago)

Deekvocuntion or something. I am self-anaesthatising for the leg at ridiculous levels to compensate for the football shite. If I felt any better I'm sure I would be miserable.

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Monday, 8 November 2010 23:40 (fifteen years ago)

Appearance of the lesser-spotted Velicka not stopping the sheep losing at the dungheap with five minutes to go. Taxi presumably booked in McGhee's name?

ailsa, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

<goes off to Wikipedia to look up Mark McGhee's record, like he wants me to>

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

Anyone Who's Good Enough For Middlesbrough Won't Be On Dis Ting: SPL 2010/11

Looking up factoids is the new taking it on the chin.

(talking of which, I see Mogga's got Boro on the up courtesy of a couple of goals from Boydichenko and the moaning marsupial)

ailsa, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

Really? I thought he'd got them up after a last minute own goal which was so inept that had it happened in Scotland Kerr would have been claiming it was a conspiracy.

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

That was on Saturday. They won again tonight.

ailsa, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)

They'll be printing 'Two In A Row' shirts as we speak.

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 22:18 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder if Middlesbrough's tiny upturn in fortune is because of Mogga, or is it just coincidence that they've not conceded a goal for a game and a half since Steven McManus got himself injured at the weekend.

ailsa, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:18 (fifteen years ago)

I only just realised I didn't notice Sami was missing on Saturday. Presumably injured?

Loovens vs Hooiveld to replace the suspended Rogne - feeling the fear tbh, hopefully we'll score another handful of goals to keep us in it.

I heard on the radio this morning that if Celtic don't allow Ki to go to the Asian Games he'll be called up for 18 months national service o_O

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 11:10 (fifteen years ago)

Also on the radio, a good rant from Mark McGhee at his post match press conference - accusing the hacks in the room of cheering Aberdeen defeats.

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 11:11 (fifteen years ago)

the ever humble Jos Hooiveld:

"If you give me games I will give you the title"

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/celtic/208034-hooiveld-if-i-play-celtic-will-win-the-spl/?

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)

I only just realised I didn't notice Sami was missing on Saturday. Presumably injured?

He was on the bench, I'm sure I saw him jogging about behind the goals a few times?

ailsa, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 11:51 (fifteen years ago)

I vote we just play with one centre half. Mark Wilson or Milan Misun about anywhere just now? World's Slowest Man Josh Thompson fallen down the back of the couch again? ANY of these options preferable to Loovens or Hooiveld, I think.

ailsa, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 11:54 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't hear that McGhee interview, but I did see him being interviewed on Sky last night straight after the match and he was v. ranting and angry at the very suggestion that he might quit when there was no reason he would or should.

ailsa, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:11 (fifteen years ago)

Just checked and you're right, Sami was on the bench. Funny how you don't even think about him when you have attacking players in their proper positions doing their jobs properly.

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:37 (fifteen years ago)

I know I'm right, that's why I said "he was on the bench" - wasn't sure I'd definitely seen him though. Can't believe you think I'd come on this thread without unbackupable evidence, ffs :-)

I think McGinn did enough against St Johnstone to secure his place above him. And then I expect Neil Lennon realised that the whole place (sheep excluded) were having too much fun to have anything other than a Paddy appearance at the end. I expect Sami'll be back in as soon as one of the wee yins knacks their fragile hamstrings.

ailsa, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

No idea how Sami managed to win a place back in the team, but it's not working. Whole team looking flat - Hearts first to everything. Hibs beating Rangers (so far) is softening the blow. Hopefully Lennie delivers a dozen swift arse kickings at half time (extra one for the sub after he cunts Sami to fuck out of the team).

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

Ledley deciding the best thing to do in front of a card happy referee is to jump in two-footed and leave us a fucking mountain to climb. Oh look 2-0 :(

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

Dreading a huns super fightback.

rappa ternt sagna (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

oh look, ref denies us a clear pen - that'll be the "things evening up" done for another season

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

Calderwood out. (pre-emptive, before we lose 3 goals in the last 10)

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

Fouls 16 vs 16
Cards 2Y vs 5Y+1R

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 21:10 (fifteen years ago)

fucksake

cozen, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 21:58 (fifteen years ago)

fucking hell. lenny does everything right when we're winning, doesn't have a scoob when we're not. Learn to change things effectively, aye? (clue: don't get rid of a guy who can defend for a guy that can't. Don't get rid of anyone else when Sami's having a cnuty fecking cnut of a game, notwithstanding the fact he shouldn't have been on in the first place)

As I just said earlier: I think McGinn did enough against St Johnstone to secure his place above him

Think he did more in any given 30 seconds after he came on to show why he should be playing. I hope for his sake that Anthony Stokes is broken, because if that was a tactical substitution then something is very wrong.

Still well done to the Hibees and St Midden making some of my mates happy at least.

ailsa, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 22:02 (fifteen years ago)

I am not happy. Papering over the cracks does nobody any favours.

(NB this is a thinly disguised attempt at hoping if I keep complaining we might pick up the points we're supposed to this season)

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 22:07 (fifteen years ago)

Papering over cracks = my patter last three years. You can learn to enjoy the intermittent results if not the overall picture. Do you want Calderwood out already? My internal jury is still out on Lennon.

Any word on the injuries that took Edu and Papac off? Am not going anywhere else on internets until I've watched The Apprentice.

ailsa, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't want him in the first place tbh.

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 22:26 (fifteen years ago)

Best laughs I had all night:

v. sweary text from onimo
bloke in pub when camera panned round cheery Jambos "aye fuck off, your real team's getting fucked"
bloke walking round pub with an empty pint glass with a couple of coppers in the bottom of it "care to contribute to the collection to buy out Samaras' contract?"

ailsa, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 22:27 (fifteen years ago)

My cracks have been papered over enough to make me forget I didn't want Lennon until we actually encounter any potential banana skins, all of which we've skited over in comedy pratfall fashion except Tannadice.

ailsa, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 22:29 (fifteen years ago)

My knee is jerking. This needs to stop.

ailsa, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 22:29 (fifteen years ago)

dissolve the league etc

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)

:D

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)

we just arranged this entire round of fixtures to pwn you, actually. Even my reaction. Bah, rumbled. Did it work?

ailsa, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

Edinburgh 5 Glasgow 0

Disband this league already and get Edinburgh United into the Conference.

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)

capital punishment

cozen, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)

^ texted a terrible "we need to capitalize on this" pun to my brother earlier after Rangers went a goal down :-(

ailsa, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)

Do we think Ledley's tackle was a straight red? (you may refer to other tackles in the SPL in your answer?)

ailsa, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 23:42 (fifteen years ago)

Not sold at all on it being a straight red, but it's certainly worthy of a card. "Seen them given", as they say. Penalty is a penalty in my opinion, although you could argue it's his momentum carrying him towards the ball and he does look like he's pulling his hand out of the way a bit.

Love Templeton's attempted volley when they hit the bar.

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Thursday, 11 November 2010 09:49 (fifteen years ago)

Jim Farry died.

ailsa, Thursday, 11 November 2010 13:48 (fifteen years ago)

"An excellent administrator" according to Hugh Keevins this morning - faint praise indeed. I'll keep my thought to myself Mr Farry's merits.

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Thursday, 11 November 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

Speaking as an excellent administrator, failing to deal with paperwork does not an excellent administrator make. Dealing with paperwork efficiently is kind of what you're there for.

ailsa, Thursday, 11 November 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

breaking news on Sky: Mark McGhee going nowhere.

ailsa, Thursday, 11 November 2010 17:01 (fifteen years ago)

Well we could have told them that.

Oh, you mean he's not leaving the club.

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Thursday, 11 November 2010 17:14 (fifteen years ago)

lol

ailsa, Thursday, 11 November 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

Colin Calderwood decides to climb down nearly three years too late rather than get booed at by Motherwell fans:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/hibernian/9181186.stm

Also, read something odd in the Herald today in their match report of the Huns losing to Hibs:

Rangers had not lost in the Clydesdale Bank Premier League since defeat to Inverness Caledonian Thistle last year.

Um, have they been consulting the Chris Maguire books of statistics? I'm guessing they meant at home, because I distinctly remember us beating them this year. And St Johnstone scudding them an 'all.

ailsa, Thursday, 11 November 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

DEEKVOLUTION

ailsa, Saturday, 13 November 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

Love the Rovers coming from behind to share the points at East End Park!

treefell, Saturday, 13 November 2010 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

@marccrosas Marc Crosas Luque
believe it or not spanish referees are as bad as scottish.
2 hours ago via web Favorite Retweet Reply

I choose "not" :)

It's worth following Crosas btw - occasionally posts some nice behind the scenes squad photos plus there's his recent date with Efrain Juarez
http://yfrog.com/mj3wydj

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 23:51 (fifteen years ago)

never in doubt :-)

Pish fucking game though, and Daryl Murphy? Really? Cha on the right wing with a fit McGinn on the bench?

Still <3 Paddy.

ailsa, Sunday, 14 November 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)

Lennon getting away with murder with his subs and tactics tbh. Stole 2 points from St Mirren today. Enjoyed their "it's a conspiracy" chant for every decision against us.

+ points for Hooper and Rogne and Ki and last minute Paddy. Everyone else pretty meh. I've worked out why Juarez isn't getting more games - it's because he's a fucking shitebag.

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Sunday, 14 November 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)

+ for Wilson from here too. Just. Maybe Izzy as well. I have several witnesses who heard me shout "you fucking powderpuffy shitebag" at the telly at a Juarez "tackle" this afternoon in the pub.

This led to a post-match discussion about what would sort the lack of grit in the midfield. We agreed Joe Ledley was missed, and after a summary discussion of things at our disposal, couldn't come up with a better answer than "Scott Brown". Or opening the chequebook. there were a few out-of-position options discussed, which sounded reasonably better than having nothing, but still not good and probably never entertained sober or off the back of an decent game.

My dad claims he met a man who knows a man who knows a man who knows stuff today who insists Shay Given's a done deal for January when Forster goes back to sit on a bench. My "heard it! every year ever!" insistence that his mate's mate's mate was talking pish was met with "aye, I said that, but he reminded me I said that about Robbie Keane", so, um, aye, not gonna happen, but a bloke who knows a bloke who drinks in a pub in Spain with my dad says it's a thing.

ailsa, Sunday, 14 November 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

Thought Forster was a season long loan?

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Sunday, 14 November 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)

So did I, but I heard from a couple of folk that Newcastle were taking him back in January.

*googles*

Not definitely going back, but he could. It was definitely pub talk last weekend.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2932/spl/2010/10/06/2152743/on-loan-celtic-goalkeeper-fraser-forster-not-keen-on-january

ailsa, Sunday, 14 November 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)

So when I said "when", I meant "if". Failing to back up my talk with evidence, consider my wrists slapped.

ailsa, Sunday, 14 November 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

I'm of the opinion Shay Given can take his wage demands elsewhere and we should punt a couple of £mill to Newcastle right now on Forster - despite my worries about his kicking and occasional flappy punching.

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Sunday, 14 November 2010 22:39 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, me too. Just saying, like. Forster's iffy kicking and flaps still give me less fear than even the mention of the words "Lucas Zaluska".

ailsa, Sunday, 14 November 2010 22:53 (fifteen years ago)

Squad for Faroes game after weekend call-offs. Everyone in Scotland is broken, and Mark Wilson or Deek still can't get a game?

Goalkeepers: Bell (Kilmarnock), Gordon (Sunderland).

Defenders: Bardsley (Sunderland), S Caldwell (Wigan), Wilson (Liverpool), Crainey (Blackpool), Kenneth (Dundee Utd)

Midfielders: Adam (Blackpool), Bannan (Aston Villa), Commons (Derby), Fletcher (Manchester United), Maloney (Celtic), Robson (Middlesbrough), Bryson (Kilmarnock)

Forwards: Goodwillie (Dundee United), Kyle (Hearts), Mackie (Queens Park Rangers).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/9187834.stm

ailsa, Monday, 15 November 2010 09:31 (fifteen years ago)

Quite amazing that Shaun Maloney needed NINE call-offs from a pointless friendly no-one wants to play just to make the squad.

Scottish internationalists who played on Saturday but somehow miss out: McGregor, Weir, Broadfoot, Whittaker, McCulloch, Miller, Naismith

hmmm, I think I see a pattern...

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Monday, 15 November 2010 10:34 (fifteen years ago)

Well done Airdrie United's marketing department :-O

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1329830/Airdrie-United-football-club-puts-Nazi-picture-Remembrance-Day-programme.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

ailsa, Monday, 15 November 2010 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

Oh come on, it's an honest mistake. It's not like Airdrie have any history of questionable politics is it?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotland/5405722.stm
http://doingthe116.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/section-b-5.jpg
http://doingthe116.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/section-b-1.jpg
http://doingthe116.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/section-b-4.jpg

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Monday, 15 November 2010 17:29 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/9191681.stm

yawn :-(

ailsa, Monday, 15 November 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

nah I can't see the SFA making up a new job and filling it with a Rangers man, so not like them

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Monday, 15 November 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

That camera run along the line-up was a good exercise in proving how many Scotland players I wouldn't recognise if I fell over them (about three).

Shiting hell, Faroes hit crossbar.

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

Do Rangers get more money off Lolverpool now that Danny Wilson's a proper international footballer then? Where "proper international footballer" = "only centre half in the country who isn't broken or plays for Rangers and therefore needs a rest".

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

Cracking finish tbh - then my stream died.

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

It was. Commons did well for the second, Barry Bannan's just hit the upright.

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

Conclusive proof that Pittodrie is the coldest place on earth - Craig Gordon has a long-sleeved shirt on.

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

us are amazin

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

I am watching Brighton in the pub instead. You are very, very nearly making me think I should get them to put Scotland on instead but I publicly swore off after the last time.

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

3-0 Jamie Mackie. We are brilliant, honest.

Commentators on about how it's all first-time goal scorers. By my reckoning, only Maloney and Fletcher have international goals, so it was fairly likely that it was going to work out like that.

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

aldo, it's not really brilliant, I'm just pretending that to outsiders. Was just remarking to other half that he might as well enjoy it because next time round these promising kiddies will be replaced by Davie Weary and Elbows McCulloch etc.

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

YES I CALLED STEVEN CALDWELL A PROMISING KIDDIE WHAT OF IT?

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

aldo, yr manager's doing the half-time punditry as well. He's very dull and not very insightful.

I've just realised that two of Scotland's squad today played in that 2-2 draw in the Faroes (Crainey and Kyle). Perhaps the commentators already mentioned that.

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

James McArthur on for his first cap, and Kerr's not here to get excited about it.

(this is not much of an achievement tbh when your other options on the bench include Craig Bryson)

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 21:15 (fifteen years ago)

I stand by my statement some weeks ago that Charlie Adam is better than Stevie Me. Any evidence tonight to doubt that?

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

He's gone off broken.

OMG, Craig Bryson is actually coming on. Wowzers. I must only be about three or four player injuries away from my own first Scotland cap.

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, we've got Cammy Bell in goals now.

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

Right, I watch a fair bit of SPL football, etc. But seriously, who the holy shitting hell is Steven Saunders? Apart from "the bad guy in 24 a couple of years ago".

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

I worked with him and his girlfriend tried it on with me when I was drunk.

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry, she was drunk. I was sober enough to say no.

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)

PENALTY CHEATING BLIND CNUT USELESS REF, etc etc

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

That was massively pointless, and quite entertaining. Most of these dudes will never trouble a Scotland squad ever again.

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

I watched The Core instead. Hilary Swank > Steven Caldwell

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)

I'm still wondering if aldo means bloke out of 24 who played Steven Saunders, btw, or whether he's really worked with a 19 year old kid with a girlfriend who hit on him.

Saunders was the bloke sent off for Motherwell against Celtic earlier this season. Still don't remember him :-)

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

I'll let you make your own mind up.

(no, it's somebody completely different)

ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

ha, ok, I never even considered that possibility. I shall retain the mental concept of you being hit on by teenage Lanarkshire WAGs though.

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

spot the deliberate mistake
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/7789/imag0144d.jpg

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 23:06 (fifteen years ago)

o_O

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

Is it "manager: Craig Levein" :-)

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 23:20 (fifteen years ago)

Has there ever been a Scotland team with fewer Scotland-based players in it? Shaun Maloney is the only SPL player in the first XI.

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

I'm guessing not.

There are cynical people elsewhere on the internet suggesting that Shaun Maloney didn't get taken off at any point because Peter Houston wanted him knackered before they face each other in their day jobs on Saturday.

ailsa, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 11:43 (fifteen years ago)

who the holy shitting hell is Steven Saunders?

I had the same thought for Craig Bryson, tho he apparently plays quite a lot for Kilmarnock. (I'd guess I watch a lot less SPL than you do.)

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

Craig Bryson scored against Celtic when he was with Clyde :-(

ailsa, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)

Ricky Foster looking like Charlie Mulgrew here btw. Yr man Eremenko looks the biz.

ailsa, Saturday, 20 November 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

Everyone looking like Charlie Mulgrew, tbh :-(

Pishy stupid substitutions, bad decision-making from several players and a whole ton of midfield shitebaggery. Bah.

ailsa, Saturday, 20 November 2010 18:06 (fifteen years ago)

Referees possibly taking strike action next weekend, according to the BBC. Which would be illegal, since they need to give 7 days notice to their employer of their intention to hold a ballot on strike action and the SFA claim to know fuck all about it. Unless, of course, someone's lying. But that would never happen...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9214212.stm

ailsa, Sunday, 21 November 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, Peatypaws:

He said: "The behaviour of some people in recent weeks has tarnished the image of Scottish football. It has demeaned the game.

"The climate of inference, innuendo and conspiracy theories must stop."

Yes, lying officials and "comedy" sectarian emails sniggering about child abuse do not tarnish reputations, that's just done by people complaining about them. Pesky people wanting fairness and transparency and honesty and decency. How very dare they.

ailsa, Monday, 22 November 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

Bring on the category 2s.

rappa ternt sagna (jim in glasgow), Monday, 22 November 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

They're out in support of their colleagues, I believe. Bring on the foreign refs.

ailsa, Monday, 22 November 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

Ah,read somewhere they were being used.suppose if they officiated it would ruin their prospects in the cliquey world of refereeing.

rappa ternt sagna (jim in glasgow), Monday, 22 November 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

I'm as tired of Celtic's moaning as anyone else at this point, but if this illegal strike leads to the sacking of some referees I wouldn't allow near a friendly game of fives I'm all for it.

Of course once the dust settles the whole thing will be Celtic's fault.

We should draft in some referees from our neighbours in Ireland, let's see how that works for a weekend...

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Monday, 22 November 2010 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

What people (i.e. Peat) seem to be forgetting is Sir Walter of Dignity picking on and complaining about officials with suspiciously Timmy-sounding surnames, their national manager getting lamped into McCurry, Jim Gannon speaking out about the poor standard of refereeing, etc. But no, look, they can have a big pile-on and, legitimately or otherwise, blame the paranoid Celts this time. I do really wish MacDonald had lied to someone else instead, but perhaps it's just that - he didn't. Or wouldn't. It *was* against Celtic, and they have every right to have a whinge about it.

ailsa, Monday, 22 November 2010 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

I take it they've all forgotten (as I just did) the statement that Hearts put out about refereeing as well. Maybe it's the Hearts dude that's the "some people" and I'm being too paranoid!

ailsa, Monday, 22 November 2010 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, and we all missed the excitement of the Scottish Cup draw:

Aberdeen v East Fife
Berwick Rangers v Celtic
Dundee v Motherwell
Dundee United v Ross County
East Stirlingshire v Buckie Thistle
Falkirk v Partick Thistle
Hamilton Accies v Alloa Athletic
Hearts v St Johnstone
Hibernian v Ayr United
Inverness CT v Elgin City
Montrose v Dunfermline
Morton v Airdrie or Beith
Queen of the South v Brechin or Annan
Rangers v Kilmarnock
Stenhousemuir or Threave Rovers v Stranraer
St Mirren v Peterhead

A few decent ties in there, and for once I don't have to go "oh ffs why did I sign up for the home cup ticket scheme and have to spunk away my post-Christmas pay packet on that shit".

ailsa, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)

looking forward to singing "worst than East Fife" at the sheep in a few weeks time :-)

Ties on 8th/9th January. Reckon Huns v Ayrshire Huns on the telly, maybe Hearts v St Johnstone if the BBC are getting one as well? Maybe Berwick's big payday will be on, allowing everyone to dust down their 1967 Scottish Cup giantkiller factfile.

ailsa, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:04 (fifteen years ago)

BBC swallowing the "it's just they paranoid Celtic lot at it" bait, the Hearts statement being completely ignored by all and sundry.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9216271.stm

btw, here it is again:

"I would not like to comment on any specific situation in the game in Scotland, but I would like to suggest that the refereeing standards need to go up significantly.

"If there is poor performance on the park by players it does not mean that the referee needs to match that level.

"Referees need to come out after the game and comment and explain their decisions. Refereeing is a big part of the game and people want to see high standards, hear the reasons behind decisions and gain clarification. Human error is part of the game, but it should be in minimal proportion.

"There is no place for a high proportion of human error meaning low standards - it can easily be a cover for bias and match fixing.

"If the Scottish FA is interested in showing there is no bias and minimizing the risk of match fixing the organisation needs to continue working to improve refereeing standards, by implementing the best practices available in the world and being innovative to insure that the Scottish game is not a place for reputation damaging situations.

"And there should be no double standards - all clubs need to be treated equally, not just those that dominate the game. I do not remember any other situation where referees have been so strictly cautioned when it involved any other club outside the Old Firm.

"In an era where players, managers and clubs are suspended or fined heavily for their actions on the pitch, it will leave a bitter taste in the mouths of every honest employee and supporter of football clubs around the country that match officials could act as deceptively as has been reported.

"It is time that the Scottish FA implements a proper system of accountability otherwise the integrity of our game will be further diluted by future incidents. How long might it be before attempts by a referee to verbally engineer a situation to suit his own purposes spills into a referee actively engineering situations through actions rather than words? Only a fool would say 'That could never happen'.

"However it is also crucial that our referees are helped in every way possible. In addition to the actual support that a proper system of accountability would provide for them, they should be encouraged to be transparent in their actions.

"When players and managers are interviewed in the minutes after a game, referees should also be given the opportunity to explain decisions to supporters.

"We would also urge the Scottish FA to continue its lobbying in world football for the implementation of video technology. We appreciate this is a wider issue but it has to be adopted in time otherwise the spotlight will remain on the officials as much as the players and managers.

"Until then, honesty amongst our match officials remains paramount to the game. Those officials that fail that basic character trait should realise that the football pitches of Scotland are no place for them. High standards and not double standards - this is what we need to raise the game to a higher level."

ailsa, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

wow Morton got a home tie!

I think something like their last 17 cup draws have been away from home apart from the one against Celtic (i.e. the one they would *want* to be a way from home for £££s).

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Monday, 22 November 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, and they didn't even get telly rights for that, and I missed Lee Naylor being good an' all :-(

That's actually a really good set of ties, looking at it properly. Couple of potential upsets, few wee teams guaranteed in the pot for the next one, some fairly evenly-matched scraps.

ailsa, Monday, 22 November 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

ooh, referees strike gone national on the news, with scarcely an actual fact in sight. Well done, world.

ailsa, Monday, 22 November 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

World spins off axis as Michael Kelly of all people talks more sense on Newsnight Scotland than anyone else I've seen or read all day on this piece of pish.

ailsa, Monday, 22 November 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)

He said: "The behaviour of some people in recent weeks has tarnished the image of Scottish football. It has demeaned the game.

"The climate of inference, innuendo and conspiracy theories must stop."

Apologies for failing to notice the lol ironing of Peat refusing to name outright the source of the innuendo to which he refers.

ailsa, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

Got an email from a mate saying we should set up a new referee's initiative tackling Transparency, Integrity and Clarity - let's call it the TIC initiative :)

This is interesting: http://sport.scotsman.com/football/David-Weir-brands-referee-strike.6636473.jp
David Weir brands referee strike 'damaging' as SFA scours Europe for cover

A sentence seems to have been edited from the original article where he said:

“It’s definitely had an effect on the game. In the real world these things happen.

“The Italian players have got a dispute just now and there have been disputes in England in the past. Its not only Scotland where the cheating has gone on.”

Whatever could he mean?

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 17:41 (fifteen years ago)

Oh wait retract that - just spotted the errant "Its" - looks like I was probably sent a fake.

Fuck you internet!

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 17:42 (fifteen years ago)

Ferdinand and Vidic rested for the Rangers game, they must have a big game at the weekend.

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 17:44 (fifteen years ago)

Least they might have a game at the weekend as European refs refuse to cross picket lines.

Interesting take from the Herald:

The SFA could also look to the Republic of Ireland as the Airtricity League is in its close season, although bringing Irish referees on board to replace Scottish officials would clearly be a controversial move.

Why would it be controversial if referees are all impartial, eh?

ailsa, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

Also, not sure how this strike can be resolved. How can referees be guaranteed protection from criticism? Have any of these threats been mentioned to the police, are there any investigations to find any of the people who have carried out these threats (let's assume they actually exist...) and consequently ensure they do not attend football matches etc?

Given that two people are currently in jail for actual real violence towards a prominent figure in Scottish football, I think this is a very real issue that should be pursued through courts etc. So why isn't this happening, eh?

ailsa, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

Also also loving the idea that the idea of replacing Scottish referees with Scottish referees must be okayed by the refereeing committee. Made up of former Scottish refs.

Has the big heid bummer of the refs had anything to say on the strike, btw? Has anyone criticised Gary Kenneth for speaking out against the referee at the weekend, claiming that he might have acted differently had he not been asked to act against Celtic? Because that seems mighty similar in theory to the bias Gary Hooper's been getting pelters for mumping about.

ailsa, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

There's no picket line if there's no strike. As I understand it the refs are self employed and have said they won't make themselves available for the weekend games - it is not a strike. I think it will lead to the SFA being in breach of its contract with the SPL to provide referees. I see no reason why the SPL cannot employ referees from any other EU nation.

Arabs Chairman Steven Thompson thinks Celtic shouldn't question the integrity of referees then... questions the integrity of referees!

Thompson also believes that smaller clubs have more right to complain about dodgy decisions going against them than the Old Firm do.

He said: “You go to Celtic Park and they think the world is against them.

“When you are a club who goes to the Old Firm you don’t get ANYTHING against them. It is a joke what they are going on about.

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

News that it's not really a strike fails to reach the head of the STUC. Who doesn't want to see a non-Scottish ref at the Dundee Utd v Rangers game at the weekend.

Not sure what administrative procedures should be in place to avert the strike? Apart from NOT FUCKING LYING TO MANAGERS AND ON NATIONAL RADIO AND IN POST-MATCH REPORTS.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9221836.stm

ailsa, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

This isn't the same STUC bloke who wanted Celtic to wave Palestinian flags at left-leaning trade-union-friendly Hapoel Tel Aviv in protest, btw.

ailsa, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9216271.stm

Striking refs want Scotland's top football clubs to confirm that the integrity of officials is not in doubt.

BBC Scotland has learned that the Scottish Football Association has until Thursday to obtain support from all 42 of the country's senior clubs.

lol good luck with that.

ailsa, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

would love Celtic to come out with an ambiguously worded "based on recent events we have no doubts about the integrity of the referees"

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

Vile Lafferty out after a "freak accident", according to Sky Sports News. An accident befalling a freak, I think they meant to say.

ailsa, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

lolverpool after Sami?

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_6525153,00.html

ailsa, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 17:41 (fifteen years ago)

It remains to be seen whether Samaras will see out the season and leave for free next summer or whether manager Neil Lennon opts to cash in on his services in the New Year.

I choose option 2.

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 17:53 (fifteen years ago)

http://i54.tinypic.com/2rhr5tu.jpg

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

Some git journo on the news just now saying that the Catholic Church calling for the removal of Hugh Dallas (on the grounds that the SFA might not be seen fit to take an anti-sectarian stance when employing someone in a senior position who finds anti-Catholic jibes amusing) is indicative of the head of communications of the Catholic church in Scotland not having a sense of humour or proportion and that it will be seen as the Church interfering in a row between Celtic and referees.

Fucking hell, if the press are so resolutely missing the point and blurring two separate issues (not to mention noticing it's not just Celtic who moan about refs), then there's no hope of anyone getting it.

ailsa, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.theglaswegian.co.uk/football/partick-thistle-fc/partick-thistle-news/2010/11/25/angry-partick-thistle-fans-told-the-cuddle-is-no-celtic-rip-off-102692-22739239/

IAN MAXWELL has told raging Partick Thistle fans the Cuddle is here to stay.
A section of the Jags support vented their fury when Ian McCall's side performed the ritual before last weekend's Scottish Cup win at Stirling Albion.

Why would anyone be "raging" or "furious" at their team doing a huddle?

it's rubbish to suggest our players Jackie McNamara and Simon Donnelly were behind it. They weren't even on the pitch at the time

...

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Thursday, 25 November 2010 11:16 (fifteen years ago)

Good old cuddly Partick. Oh, wait...

ailsa, Thursday, 25 November 2010 12:10 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9216271.stm

Scotland's top referees have refused to call off their weekend strike despite holding "positive talks" with the Scottish Football Association.

...
They had stressed that their protest would go ahead no matter what the talks produced

seriously wtf - do they what what striking is for?

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Thursday, 25 November 2010 13:29 (fifteen years ago)

Well done to Willie McStay on getting a job - he's the new Ross County manager.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/ross_county/9227820.stm

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Thursday, 25 November 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

Nice one re. Willie McStay. I've always had a wee soft spot for the Staggies.

We're getting foreign refs in the SPL at the weekend. Herald today still peddling the supposed controversy that would surround the appointment of any League of Ireland refs. Clowns.

As I understand it, positive talks with the SFA mean nothing with assurances that no-one from a single member club of the SPL or the SFL will ever question or doubt the integrity of any ref. Even the one that is still in a job after lying to an employee of an SPL club.

ailsa, Thursday, 25 November 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

...mean nothing WITHOUT assurances...

ailsa, Thursday, 25 November 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

They had stressed that their protest would go ahead no matter what the talks produced

I think this needs to be repeated over and over - these fucks will send small clubs to the wall no matter what.

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Thursday, 25 November 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

and then they'll blame Celtic/Neil Lennon/John Reid </paranoia>

Can all these wee teams sue the SFA for failing to provide a referee?

ailsa, Thursday, 25 November 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

I think that's up to the SFL and SPL who have an SLA with the SFA. DUC?

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Thursday, 25 November 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

OIC. FU, SFA, AFAIC.

ailsa, Thursday, 25 November 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

interesting wee post today on the blog of the bloke who broke the Dallas email story that claims Hugh Dallas "offered to call off the referee's strike if his disciplinary hearing into the Pope email was called off"

wheels within wheels...

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Thursday, 25 November 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

from the Guardian

“The SFA were quietly confident of securing enough referees earlier in the week but their options continue to diminish. The Dutch FA had expressed willingness to send officials on Tuesday but, like many other associations, they also appear to have performed a swift U-turn.

Gijs de Jong, the KNVB’s competition manager, told media in Holland: “When we heard there were death treats, we pulled out.””

Death threats? From Scottish refs?

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Thursday, 25 November 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

This whole affair continues to bring what would be the roffles if it wasn't so serious. Haven't checked any of the blogs today, has anyone had a proper go at that clown from the Scotsman who was on Reporting Scotland last night?

Remember on this thread many moons ago I was considering applying for a admin job in the refereeing department of the SFA? Missed opportunity (like I'd have got in, ffs...)

ailsa, Thursday, 25 November 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/nov/24/celtic-neil-lennon-referees-behaviour

(headlined as "Neil Lennon to lay off referees" on the main football page, nicely ambiguous phrase in a sort of industrial dispute...)

Another decent example of headlines not being backed up by the story then. I love Neil Lennon as a public speaker. He's very careful with his words.

ailsa, Thursday, 25 November 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

also I see the story about the Catholic church having a moan at Dallas and the SFA is being lumped into a story specifically about Celtic.

ailsa, Thursday, 25 November 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

grapevine says Dallas out

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Thursday, 25 November 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

BBC Scotland doing some outstanding ref-backing here. Impartial broadcaster my arse.

ailsa, Thursday, 25 November 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

This shower of fuds on the radio blaming Celtic for starting all this can take a running jump, btw. Last time I looked, Celtic didn't fucking lie to themselves here. Fuck's sake. This is the IMPARTIAL broadcaster, thank feck i'm not listening to Clyde or Real Radio.

ailsa, Thursday, 25 November 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

Is it me or are Throbbing Gristle singing HOLY GOALIE at about 3.45?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4peQ756tvA

:)

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Thursday, 25 November 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

You really expect impartial from anything involving (not listening but guessing) Chick Young, Gordon Smith and Billy Dods?

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Thursday, 25 November 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

Haha, it was even better than that. They had Donald Findlay on at one point!

btw, John Yorkston has just said on national radio that the loss of revenue this weekend is not down to the SFA or the referees, it's the club that started all this. Celtic.

Not challenged (actually encouraged by Jim Spence).

This would be hilarious if it weren't so fucking wrong.

ailsa, Thursday, 25 November 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

Isn't it terrible when managers question the integrity of referees?

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Thursday, 25 November 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

Isn't it terrible when managers can't control themselves on the touchline?

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Thursday, 25 November 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

Radio Scotland Hun bias redressed by having Willie McStay on. And, er, not mentioning referees once. D'oh!

ailsa, Thursday, 25 November 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

switch it off?

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Thursday, 25 November 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

Know your enemy and all that (I have, I'm watching I'm a Celeb now)

ailsa, Thursday, 25 November 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

Rio Ferdinand otm

@rioferdy5 Rio Ferdinand
Has kenny miller only paid 4 a spray tan on his face?? His neck is white + his face....well...is a different colour all together!
24 Nov via ÜberTwitter

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/4579132427_102b3bde2f.jpg

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Thursday, 25 November 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9230434.stm

So, referees reiterating that they don't want anything, they don't have any demands, we should all just have a nice wee think about a world with no Scottish referees in it. Now, let me just have a wee think... yep, byeeeeeeeeee.

This is not just a small group of mavericks making a point for self-interest.

No, to be fair, it's not. It's a large number of people carrying out a huge exercise in self-interest. And attention-seeking.

ailsa, Friday, 26 November 2010 10:22 (fifteen years ago)

Hopefully no controversial incidents in games at the weekend. I notice the referees have no problem with refereeing (Craig Thompson going red-card happy in the Champions League this week), just with refereeing. Might be nice therefore just to have reciprocal deals with other European FAs going forward, where referees can go anywhere in Europe to referee, like we just draw a referee out of a hat, they could be Scottish/Norwegian/Spanish/Polish/Dutch or whatever.

ailsa, Friday, 26 November 2010 10:25 (fifteen years ago)

but but think of the environmental footprint! and the damage to Scotland's reputation from sending these fannies to proper leagues.

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Friday, 26 November 2010 10:38 (fifteen years ago)

..just with refereeing in Scotland, that should say, btw.

You can't call them fannies, onimo! That's disrespectful, and quite possibly abusive! Then they'll NEVER come back. Oh, wait, no, carry on. Here's hoping :-D

ailsa, Friday, 26 November 2010 11:04 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9216271.stm

Poles showing some reffing Solidarity. Games might be in doubt again.

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Friday, 26 November 2010 11:40 (fifteen years ago)

Ach, that's just three games. Get the Scottish Cup replays tae feck </big club mentality>

ailsa, Friday, 26 November 2010 11:49 (fifteen years ago)

Excellent (yes, really!) viewpoint in the Herald today from Fraser Wishart

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/more-scottish-football/talking-to-a-brick-wall-farce-surrounding-our-game-epitomises-problems-we-face-in-scotland-says-fraser-wishart-1.1070848

ailsa, Friday, 26 November 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

Ach, that's just three games. Get the Scottish Cup replays tae feck </big club mentality>

Or two Scottish Cup games and Morton.

ailsa, Friday, 26 November 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

The Morton game will be off, the pitch is frozen and unlikely to heat up much.

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Friday, 26 November 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/212178-smith-scottish-referees-must-name-clubs-they-have-a-problem-with/

“I don’t think anyone at my club, certainly I haven’t, has questioned the integrity of a referee,” said Smith.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/3534955/Rangers-manager-Walter-Smith-explains-rant-about-assistant-referee-Football.html

"I think it was quite clear it was onside. Mr Murphy was quick to allow a Scott McDonald goal at Celtic Park and was quick to disallow that [Boyd goal]."

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Friday, 26 November 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

Do they think we're all fucking thick and can't dig this shit up in two minutes?

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Friday, 26 November 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

According to the BBC it's one of the three losing out to the Polish refs not coming - presume they chose that one to cancel because it wasn't likely to go ahead anyway (Annan game also off because of frozen pitch).

xpost yes, I think they do. I notice many newspapers aren't quite so quick to do this thing called journalism that they get paid for though.

ailsa, Friday, 26 November 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

Also, what everyone is failing to notice is that the integrity of one referee (possibly more, this guy McKendrick that's all over the radio/papers now was the fourth official at Tannadice and was presumably party to the wee post-match chats re. the overturning of the penalty decision) is already not so much in question as has been shown to be somewhat iffy.

btw, ever notice none of the talking heads quoted in the papers over this are from Celtic?

ailsa, Friday, 26 November 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

everyone = everyone in more of a position of media power than us. We're quite good at noticing the facts here.

ailsa, Friday, 26 November 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

Chick Young, 2008, following Celtic getting a favourable decision:

Mike McCurry, Eddie Smith and now Charlie. No more, gentlemen. Get a grip of your whistles and as one go forward together. Our game cannot take much more of this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chickyoung/2008/08/chick_youngs_blog.html

How does that compare with his opinion last night?

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Friday, 26 November 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

In an amusing turn of events, the same Luxembourgian referee is doing the Celtic game on Saturday AND the Rangers game on Sunday. Presume

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/celtic/212220-luxembourg-ref-to-take-charge-of-both-rangers-and-celtic-fixtures/

ailsa, Friday, 26 November 2010 17:17 (fifteen years ago)

oops, didn't mean to hit submit. Presume this will allow us to fairly judge his handling of both the whingy ones and the dignified ones, comparing and contrasting.

Off to google him now, obv.

ailsa, Friday, 26 November 2010 17:19 (fifteen years ago)

STV News reporting that the Portuguese refs turned round at the airport and effed off back to Portugal again.

There's a Scottish fourth official at our game tomorrow. Not sure where he's come from if they're all off in the huff - Stephen Allan? Also at Rangers games (their one's called Andy Tait. Any relation to Bobby?)

ailsa, Friday, 26 November 2010 18:08 (fifteen years ago)

He referees junior fitba. Officious type. #scaredtosayanythingmoreincasethejuniorrefstakethehuffandthrowthetoysoutofthepramaswell

scotstvo, Friday, 26 November 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

Nice justification. No more comedy hashtags from me :)

scotstvo, Friday, 26 November 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

Brian McGinlay chips in -
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2010/11/23/ref-crisis-this-would-never-have-happened-if-sfa-had-the-bottle-to-stand-up-to-celtic-86908-22733472/

McGinlay believes one club above all others has been guilty of relentlessly going after the men in the middle - ever since the Dougie McDonald debacle at Dundee United five weeks ago.

He said: "You could put Celtic up on a charge of bringing the game into disrepute but that would probably result in making the already aggrieved feel even more aggrieved.

Brian McGinlay chipping in earlier -
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4809/mcginlaybigot.jpg

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Friday, 26 November 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

Dallas actually out this time.

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Friday, 26 November 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)

gtf u cunt

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 26 November 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)

and i thought he was shameless, my bad hugh. cya

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 26 November 2010 22:04 (fifteen years ago)

Can't believe I've been on the internet solid for two days waiting for this. Give up on the grounds it's late on a Friday night, and I miss it :-/

:-D

ailsa, Friday, 26 November 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

ha, i've been ignoring this for the most part (you covered most of it in one post tbf) but just caught the anouncement on sky news as it happened. lol.

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 26 November 2010 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

Citing "family reasons" according to STV - meaning (impo) there'll be a "Celtic fans harassing my family" exclusive in a Sunday pap.

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Friday, 26 November 2010 22:38 (fifteen years ago)

fake Paddy McCourt keeping it classy

PaddyMcCourt20 Patrick J, McCourt
If Maggie Thatcher pops it tonight I'm cracking out the moisturiser for a two-handed celebratory power wank. #goodtimes #Celtic
6 minutes ago

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Friday, 26 November 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)

Friday Night Football has just started on STV

"Hugh Dallas has left the SFA" *footage of Neil Lennon arguing with a referee*

I fucking despair.

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Friday, 26 November 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

Journo bawbags in the faces of Portuguese refs at Glasgow Airport giving it "you do know you're scabs breaking a strike by blokes who have had death threats, right? blah integrity! blah paranoia! blah intense scrutiny! blah!"

Portugeezers presumably went "jesus, we've no' even left the airport and we're under fucking scrutiny! fuck this for a game of soldiers, also it's fucking freezing" and decided to just go home."

ailsa, Friday, 26 November 2010 23:16 (fifteen years ago)

http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Hugh-Dallas-departs-from-SFA.6641838.jp

SFA PRESIDENT - "Fuck all to do with me"

SFA president George Peat would not confirm the other departures, but said last night: "Stewart Regan (SFA chief executive] has interviewed a number of people at Hampden.

"I have not been in there today. I stayed away because, if he has dismissed anyone, any appeal from people who have been dismissed would come to me.

"I don't know if people have gone or not – that is possible.
"Some people have phoned me and told me that five have left, but I don't know how many have gone and who they might be. I don't want to get involved."

Fucking shambles of an organisation. Same thing happened with boozegate - CEO and President taking different positions in public without speaking to each other.

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Saturday, 27 November 2010 09:03 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/under-fire-dallas-quits-sfa-over-pope-e-mail-1.1071202

accompanied by picture of him pushing Neil Lennon.

Struggling to see how he's left for "family reasons" along with four other staff who sent the same email.

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Saturday, 27 November 2010 09:06 (fifteen years ago)

http://i56.tinypic.com/71hj0k.jpg

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Saturday, 27 November 2010 10:48 (fifteen years ago)

Citing "family reasons" according to STV

The charming ditty "Go home ya Hun, go home" comes irresistibly to mind

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 November 2010 11:48 (fifteen years ago)

Didn't Smudger resign for "family reasons" as well, before taking up a position slagging off Celtic offering impartial opinions on Radio Scotland?

ailsa, Saturday, 27 November 2010 18:06 (fifteen years ago)

note I'm not talking about the football, because I don't have enough bad words to throw at Dan Majstorovic.

ailsa, Saturday, 27 November 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

Fake Paddy McCourt OTM again:

Fuck this referee nonsense, our defence are CONSPIRING to throw away the league! Cunts couldn't keep an elephant out a phone box. #Celtic

ailsa, Saturday, 27 November 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

Poor Real Paddy McCourt scores another peach and the cunts behind him can't make it count.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F83GblEWE4

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Saturday, 27 November 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

Take it to the rolling (well, stationary) Paddy McCourt thread!

ailsa, Saturday, 27 November 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

Just as well today's refs were used yesterday, otherwise expensive old job getting refs in for abandoned games.

ailsa, Sunday, 28 November 2010 11:15 (fifteen years ago)

lol refs pt #infinity

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/sport/Referees-seek-points-deductions-for.6642336.jp

Nobody has a problem with a manager questioning a decision a referee makes but when certain people start saying that a ref 'couldn't wait to give a red card against us' or say that the ref 'conspired against us', then that is not right. When it veers into conspiracy and innuendo, then there should be a clear sanction in place."

ailsa, Sunday, 28 November 2010 11:49 (fifteen years ago)

So Rangers backdated points deduction for the Mr Murphy innuendo and 2008-09 title award to us then please?

ailsa, Sunday, 28 November 2010 11:51 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, no, wait, innuendo is OPEN TO INTERPRETATION. So how can you clearly sanction something that isn't clearly definable? Away and raffle yersel, ya rocket.

ailsa, Sunday, 28 November 2010 11:51 (fifteen years ago)

Glenn Loovens and Marc Crosas have found the answer - BUILD a new centre half (lifesize recreation of Dan Majstorovic, actual size, about as effective, probably about as useful)

http://yfrog.com/f7e5o0j

(from Marc Crosas's twitter)

ailsa, Sunday, 28 November 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)

Don't think that worked. Link here:

http://yfrog.com/f7e5o0j

ailsa, Sunday, 28 November 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

marc crosas' twitter is decent to follow(although being able to read spanish and understanding a little catalan helps), especially for the photos. that had me in hysterics.

game yesterday was boufing. boufing and, when the sun went down, absolutely baltic. majstorovic is so inconsistent. he looks like a god at times and then he can just be an absolute nightmare, like yesterday. charlie mulgrew is a fucking joke, as is daryl murphy. i know lennon wasn't given much cash, but still, two absolute fucking donkeys. Joe Ledley was anonymous, I'm really taking a dislike to him.

singing section 20 minutes silence - combined with the really fucking low attendance - made me realise i want to move my seat over there. was in my dad's seat yesterday as he's off home for a few weeks but my seat is much the same atmosphere-wise. not into the RA songbook or the crass political statements but i'm sick of sitting with old men and moaning like one. i want some atmosphere. i want a wee singsong.

rappa ternt sagna (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

DRUDGE SIRENS.jpg

Dougie McDonald has quit!

ailsa, Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

sorry, he's retired. On a Sunday night. When he's on strike. My bad :-D

ailsa, Sunday, 28 November 2010 18:08 (fifteen years ago)

rip dougie dougie

rappa ternt sagna (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 28 November 2010 18:09 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9236198.stm

Some cracking quotes in there. Basically he's taking one for the refereeing team so folk can get back at picking on people who pick on referees rather than picking on him. But wait, it's not just Celtic, it's Aiden McGeady as well (and, amusingly, Scotland's assistant manager). No mention of, oh, i dunno, Walter Smith questioning linesman at all.

ailsa, Sunday, 28 November 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

Oops. BBC missing out the dig at Jim Gannon.

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/news/dougie-mcdonald-statement-56567/

ailsa, Sunday, 28 November 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

Bookies must love the SPL

OptaJoe 45% - 45% of SPL matches have been won by the away side this season, vs just 36% for teams on their own turf. Backwards #StAndrewsDay

Oh, and happy St Andrew's Day. Are we supposed to do something for it? Eat haggis or get pished or something?

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:58 (fifteen years ago)

Fancy a pint in honour of, er, something? :-) (I don't think we're meant to do anything. What happened to our bank holiday that the SNP promised us? Well, vaguely muttered about at some point once?)

ailsa, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:21 (fifteen years ago)

am aff it (until Friday)

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:52 (fifteen years ago)

Was only joking, is too icy to go near a pub.

Ex-referee heid yin swallowing the "it's all they whiny tims" line, if only we had decent men like Jim Farry behind the refs, etc.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9240326.stm

ailsa, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:41 (fifteen years ago)

nice aerial of the green of Celtic Park surrounded by snow

http://yfrog.com/2gahanj

Dork Twisted Fantasy (onimo), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

ooh, that is nice. Nicking that for my wallpaper, I think.

ailsa, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

Not really football now, but Richard Dawkins weighs in some way wide of the mark on Hugh Dallas' sacking.

http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/39Weasel39-attack-on-Catholic-spokesman.6645563.jp

ailsa, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

Dicky obviously familiar with the ins and outs of Scottish football, of course.

I like the name 'Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science', such a strong ring of creepy fascist purity to it.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

I feel bad putting this on the Scottish football thread, as it's not really much to do with football, just so happens that the SFA are an organisation supposed to be working alongside others to eradicate sectarianism and they had a chap in a pretty senior position who was a bit of a twonk and put himself in a fairly untenable position. I kind of feel sorry for this Peter Kearney chap - he's not speaking for himself, he's speaking on behalf of the whole of the Catholic Church in Scotland, but he's getting singled out as a focus for the furore.

The amount of line-blurring and point-missing going on over the various issues these last few weeks is kind of incredible. You'd almost think that most sports journalists in this country were lazy and stupid.

ailsa, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

Celtic’s fourth round Scottish Cup tie with Berwick Rangers has been put back 24 hours to Sunday January 9 with a 3.30pm kick off.
The match will be screened live by Sky Sports

Result.

Dork Twisted Fantasy (onimo), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)

Hoping to get to that game but tickets may be a problem.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)

STV reporting that the Aberdeen vs Celtic match is off.

Dork Twisted Fantasy (onimo), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:10 (fifteen years ago)

entire card off :(
http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/aberdeen/213399-spl-fixture-card-wiped-out-by-weather/

Dork Twisted Fantasy (onimo), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

There goes my ATP Saturday lunchtime curer excuse

Dork Twisted Fantasy (onimo), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry, what, you need an EXCUSE to go to the pub at ATP? You're not doing it right :-)

ailsa, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:29 (fifteen years ago)

Rumours abound that Mark McGhee has found himself with a bit more time on his hands to do some googling.

ailsa, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

no longer rumours

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/01/mark-mcghee-sacked-aberdeen

Dork Twisted Fantasy (onimo), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

RIP big man, heaven needed someone to be nice about Adam Virgo.

ailsa, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

my friend frank has just kicked up a bit of a shitstorm on the WSC message boards with a piece abt scottish refs (i don't know enough abt the subject to get involved):

http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/5994/38/

Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, that article's a crock of shit, Ward, sorry. Steven Craven stated in the national press there had been no threats. John Reid's previous employment record should have no bearing on his actions as Celtic chairman. He's right - Dougie McDonald made up a story, falsified the match report (and the head of refereeing development colluded with this and peddled the false version on national radio before getting found out), and lied to an SPL manager. Of COURSE people were questioning his integrity and calling for his resignation). Likewise, Gary Hooper's previous club is neither here nor there. He also seems to be ignoring the actual real assault on Neil Lennon, for which two men are currently in jail, which has obviously more basis in reality than these threats that no referee appears to have ever taken further than spreading conjecture and hearsay.

Neil Lennon has been pretty understated, and in fact the majority of whinging directly after the Dundee United game came from the Dundee United manager (his post match comments linked to upthread, now no longer available...). I suspect his opinion on Neil Lennon's combative nature has no basis in reality either - his disciplinary record in Scotland during his playing days was pretty decent for a supposedly aggressive player.

There's tons of evidence on this thread alone of other managers criticising referees, which the wider press seem to be forgetting in the rush to blame Celtic for everything. This article just seems to be a rehashed summary of the one-sided press reporting, rather than bringing anything new to the table.

I'm sure your mate's a nice bloke though :-)

ailsa, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

Craig Brown for Aberdeen? Them's the rumours.

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

Celtic v Killie called off stupidly early, considering the mankies still have to go up the A9 to play the Highland horribles. Still, at least I won't miss it when I'm at ATP.

ailsa, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/aberdeen/9257495.stm

Craig Brown quits Motherwell. A good move for Aberdeen, I think?

ailsa, Friday, 10 December 2010 00:59 (fifteen years ago)

they picked the wrong Brown. :'(

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 10 December 2010 01:49 (fifteen years ago)

I hope you're referring to Phil, because that would have been awes.

ailsa, Friday, 10 December 2010 02:10 (fifteen years ago)

Could have enjoyed the hotseat (directly under the sunlamp) previously occupied by Tango.

ailsa, Friday, 10 December 2010 02:10 (fifteen years ago)

absolutely Phil. I'll accept him as the replacement for a fired-after-two-months McCoist.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 10 December 2010 02:29 (fifteen years ago)

There's a vacancy at Motherwell...

(guy in the office heard Terry Butcher's in line for a return).

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Friday, 10 December 2010 10:38 (fifteen years ago)

Not been in the east end recently so I can't attest to conditions,tho I can see CP out my windae, but in Finnieston it's just wet now.no sign of ice or snow. Seems daft the game is off.although seeing as I'm still awake plus we have iza,forest,kayal,broonie still to come back from injuries maybe postponements are ok.

rappa ternt sagna (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 11 December 2010 07:05 (fifteen years ago)

Hearts 5-0 Aberdeen FT

lol good luck C Brown, your team just took a big enough humping to go bottom of the league.

Celtic game should never have been called off. Don't the police look at weather forecasts? It's all well and good having players get more time to recover but a win today would have taken us top and given us a good wee confidence booster.

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Saturday, 11 December 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)

See I wasn't expecting ict to get a result.

rappa ternt sagna (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 11 December 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

I'm trying to watch the Rangers ICT highlights and I'm so confused, I really can't tell who's who half of the time. Who decided that this combination of kits was a good idea?

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 12 December 2010 04:03 (fifteen years ago)

oh cozen already mentioned the clash on the amazing goal thread. never mind me then.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 12 December 2010 04:04 (fifteen years ago)

I just loaned a Julian Cope book to a colleague and he discovered I had left a bookmark in it - ticket for Celtic vs Bordeaux, Thursday 9th November 2000 - £19

We lost 2-1 and were out of Europe before Christmas for about the 20th year in a row :(

I would take that losing team before our current lot:
Celtic: Gould, Boyd, Valgaeren, Mjallby, Agathe, Petrov, Moravcik (Johnson, 77 ) , McNamara (Healy, 39 ) , Petta (Berkovic, 105 ) , Larsson, Sutton
Subs not used: Kerr,Stubbs,Smith,Crainey,

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Monday, 13 December 2010 12:58 (fifteen years ago)

Join the dots:

The Association of British Bookmakers is investigating irregular betting activity over a red card shown in Motherwell's match against Hearts.

Motherwell midfielder Steve Jennings was sent off during Tuesday's 2-1 defeat by the Edinburgh side.

[...]

It is understood that several bets were put on a red card being dished out at Fir Park, including one from a new account opened in Liverpool, where a £500 bet was placed on a red card at odds of 10/1.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/motherwell/9291880.stm

From Wikipedia:

Steven "Steve" John Jennings (born 28 October 1984 in Liverpool, England) is an English professional footballer who currently plays as a central midfielder for Motherwell in the Scottish Premier League.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jennings_%28footballer%29

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 21:58 (fifteen years ago)

Thing is though, he got a straight red for fuck all (shouted for a pen, touched the ref's arm) so if it's dodgy it implicated the referee imo.

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 23:04 (fifteen years ago)

implicates*

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

Commentary was along the lines of "that's an absolutely shocking decision. I don't know what the referee is thinking there."

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 23:06 (fifteen years ago)

The live Sky commentary, that is, not the bit on the BBC highlights clip.

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 23:07 (fifteen years ago)

He accused the referee of cheating his team which, as we all know, should make the referees all go on strike again because they are fine upstanding men of honour.

But aye, was a pretty lame red. If you're going to get yourself deliberately sent off, you go for a high tacklle or a handball or something. Didn't see the game itself, but my dad was on the phone just after it and he said he thought the referee was giving Hearts everything.

ailsa, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 23:18 (fifteen years ago)

Turns out the bet was on a Motherwell player being sent off rather than that particular Motherwell player, in which case there's nothing dodgy about it - I said during the game that Motherwell wouldn't finish with eleven players given their clear frustration with the refereeing. I wouldn't have put £500 on it but I'm sure such bets are placed fairly often.

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Thursday, 16 December 2010 10:08 (fifteen years ago)

Dry yer Ibrox mate

Gives us a chance to go top for more than a couple of hours on Saturday, assuming we've somehow learned to defend in the last couple of weeks.

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Thursday, 16 December 2010 17:35 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, also handy for them in that it means Boogie, Misser and Naismith don't have to try and avoid a yellow card in order to not be suspended for the New Year game </paranoia>

ailsa, Thursday, 16 December 2010 17:45 (fifteen years ago)

(disclaimer: read that somewhere else, haven't googled their disciplinary records yet)

ailsa, Thursday, 16 December 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)

I spy a fixture pile-up a-coming :-(

ailsa, Saturday, 18 December 2010 10:16 (fifteen years ago)

summer football ftw

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Saturday, 18 December 2010 11:16 (fifteen years ago)

This is fucking nuts, btw:

Some clubs outside the strategy group will lobby for end of season play-offs to determine the SPL champions. In what would represent a highly controversial move, the top four teams would meet in semi-finals and a final. The plan aims to increase competition and provide lucrative fixtures at the end of the season. It is 25 years since a team other than Rangers or Celtic won the Scottish championship.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/19/scottish-premier-league-reconstruction-meeting

ailsa, Sunday, 19 December 2010 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

should go all out and have it in Qatar.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 19 December 2010 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

christ dissolve the spl already

― acoleuthic, Saturday, 6 November 2010 16:49 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Monday, 20 December 2010 11:32 (fifteen years ago)

Seems odd that last week when there was no snow and temperatures forecast to be above freezing for 4 days that we had our game cancelled yet this week there's snow everywhere and it's minus 8 and our game is going ahead.

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Monday, 20 December 2010 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

Be lucky if we can see the pitch from our seats if it's anything like it is just now :-(

ailsa, Monday, 20 December 2010 12:10 (fifteen years ago)

Think I'm leaving at half-time, btw as I've got tickets to go and see Belle and Sebastian at the Barrowlands. On currently form, it means I get to see our goals and then leave before we chuck the lead away :-) Will need to catch up with you beforehand to get my ticket off you.

ailsa, Monday, 20 December 2010 12:12 (fifteen years ago)

If I didn't have your ticket I might have not bothered going due to freezing & general SPL fed-upness and the pain in the arse that is getting the kids to a midweek game.

oh and freezing second half capitulation >>>>>>>>>>> Belle and Sebastian :)

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Monday, 20 December 2010 12:28 (fifteen years ago)

Listen, if you don't want to go, that's a perfectly good excuse for me to not go either. I'm still hoping it will be called off, though I have no idea if Glasgow's as foggy as it is out here.

ailsa, Monday, 20 December 2010 12:43 (fifteen years ago)

Few games called off for tomorrow, including Rangers at Tannadice. Pitch inspection at Celtic Park, fingers crossed it's off as well.

ailsa, Monday, 20 December 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

Old Walter's memory is failing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/9305423.stm

The Rangers manager says the SPL refused to extend the season when his side faced a backlog in 2007/08.

Rangers had to play nine games in 24 days, including the finals of the Uefa Cup and the Scottish Cup.

"Surely if the season's not going to be extended for one team, they can't extend it for any," said Smith.

You'd think whoever interviewed him would kindly point out that the season *was* extended in 2008.

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Monday, 20 December 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

But EVERYONE forgot it, even at the time. It was extremely weird. Also surely it's better to extend it when everyone's fucked, then it's not just to give one team an advantage.

ailsa, Monday, 20 December 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

Last five home games L W (lolberdeen) D D D - not exactly title form eh? Needed a late goal tonight for deny Killie a worthy first win at Celtic Park in 50-odd years.

We had something like 15-20 corner kicks and created exactly fuck all from them.

Welcome back Scott Brown - took him all of 4 minutes to start a fight.

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)

Scott brown looked amazing in comparison to some of the imposters on show.

Basically holding on to the fact that rangers might lose miller and thus drop points for fun rest of the season.

My feet are still cold.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

"If we play like that for the remainder of the season I will be delighted because I think we will win a lot more games playing like that than not."

System not working so stick with it - good work Lennie. Completely failing to see that getting wide and getting lots of crosses in + winning 15 corners might look like domination but it isn't really when none of these things results in goals. No guile through the middle + no muscle = everyone has sussed out that as long as you defend crosses against Celtic you can run through them as soon as you have the ball.

Also "winning more than not" isn't really a recipe for success in the SPL. Tony Mowbray won more than not. Just.

ploppin caps and takin names (onimo), Thursday, 23 December 2010 11:05 (fifteen years ago)

rafa in

abbott & coztello (cozen), Thursday, 23 December 2010 11:18 (fifteen years ago)

^ my dad actually said that to me on the phone last night! Nearly as unlikely + lol as the "Allardyce in" I saw on a Celtic forum yesterday.

As much as I didn't have faith in him, I thought Neil Lennon might at least have seen how badly we did with two shitebags in the middle and two wee guys stapled to the tramlines, compared to how teams he played in worked. But no, he seems to have stuck to Tony Mowbray's "it looks nice on paper and should work in theory and therefore I'm doing it" tactics. We're back to Gordon Strachan's opening game of the season four or so years ago when we watched the slowest and dullest game ever seen and were told that we won it on paper (it was a goal-less draw). Fuck you, this isn't boxing.

I didn't go on Tuesday night due to cold and a prior commitment, and I'm bloody glad I didn't. Thunder absolutely not even remotely close to being brought back, Mr Lennon, over to you.

ailsa, Thursday, 23 December 2010 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

Just heard on the news that Scott Brown thinks this is the best squad he's played in. Christ knows what they've been giving him for pain relief.

ailsa, Thursday, 23 December 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

You have to remember that the best Celtic have been since his arrival was in the run of games he was suspended for when Robson and Hartley won us the title - so best squad he's played in isn't saying much, as they've all been shite.

ploppin caps and takin names (onimo), Friday, 24 December 2010 11:08 (fifteen years ago)

I did laugh at the wee report they did on Reporting Scotland last night, rubbishing his claim by pointing out he'd played with good people like Naka (aye), Boruc (mostly), McGeady (sometimes) and, er, Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink (no).

ailsa, Friday, 24 December 2010 11:12 (fifteen years ago)

Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink (no)

Couple of crucial winning goals for us that season though so nothing but <3 for the big useless lump.

ploppin caps and takin names (onimo), Friday, 24 December 2010 11:13 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, for that alone he's worth 10000000000x Darryl Murphy, but I wouldn't exactly rate him v. highly. Crucial points also courtesy of Chris Killen, so it's not really an indicator of, well, anything.

JVOH does get special hero status for that goal against the huns though, and also for Desktop Jan. Still wouldn't pick him over Hooper.

ailsa, Friday, 24 December 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

Aaarggh, 90 minutes of PISH (Darryl Murphy: why?!) + two flashes of awesome. Cha's celebration = highlight of the season that isn't a Paddy McCourt goal so far.

ailsa, Sunday, 26 December 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

Signing a virtually retired player is not the answer.

Today was even worse than Tuesday. Suppose because st johnstone mad no attempt to play and their defensive play showed how toothless we are.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 26 December 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

Virtually retired player >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daryl Murphy

ailsa, Sunday, 26 December 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

He's no a striker though. Yes I know,neither is Murphy,boom boom.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 26 December 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

ho ho. I worry a lot about the next few games. Rangers are going to destroy us :-(

ailsa, Sunday, 26 December 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

Broon is a cunt. that is all.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Sunday, 26 December 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

Am reading some Ugly Betty shaped rumours on the internets. No!!!! You cannot ruin The Greatest Thing On The Internet Ever just to plug a hole in our leaky defence.

ailsa, Sunday, 26 December 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

Anyone Who's Good Enough For Middlesbrough Won't Be On Dis Ting: SPL 2010/11

^ wish I'd paid proper attention to this :-(

ailsa, Sunday, 26 December 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)

http://i53.tinypic.com/k0su38.jpg

harlan, Monday, 27 December 2010 07:45 (fifteen years ago)

Huns game off again tomorrow. Wattie's insistence that the league cannot possibly be extended may come back and bite him on the balls.

Hearing rumours that Ibrox might not be playable for Sunday...

ailsa, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 13:46 (fifteen years ago)

Ringing endorsement for Dwayne De Rosario from non other than the legend that is Paul Dalglish.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/celtic/8227089/Celtic-target-Dwayne-De-Rosario-is-a-bit-special-says-Paul-Dalglish.html

onimo, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

the most extravagantly gifted player to appear at Parkhead since Slovakian playmaker Lubomir Moravcik

Never trust a man who has evidently never seen Paddy McCourt, tbh.

ailsa, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

padinho just scored another bumper

the bbc highlights of the weekend game made it look like everything went through him

cozen, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

#thederrypele

cozen, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

Might have been a wee deflection but good stuff from Paddy all the same. Kapo looked ok till he went off crocked - now Murphy's back in after having his substitution cheered at the weekend.

Usual period of huge dominance with scoring tonight until Paddy's magic just as we were losing momentum - I expect more dominance in the second half followed by a weak capitulation on 87 minutes.

Stuart McCall taking the Motherwell job tomorrow btw.

onimo, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

Murphy - 2 penalty goals all season in the SPL
Samaras - 0 goals all season in the SPL

Those two penalties must have earned Murphy a bench spot - no other "striker" if he or Stokes gets crocked.
Sami is being saved for the derby match :P

onimo, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

Those two penalties must have earned Murphy a bench spot - no other "striker" if he or Stokes gets crocked.

AAARRGGGHH. Murphy out.

onimo, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

Celtic in SPL:
P17 W12 D3 L2
2.3 points per game

Celtic in SPL without Scott Brown:
P8 W4 D2 L2
1.75 ppg

Celtic in SPL with Scott Brown:
P9 W8 D1 L0
2.8 ppg

#captain

onimo, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

Kayal, who replaced the injured Murphy, who replaced the injured Kapo, is injured. I think he bit a hole in his own face :/

onimo, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

Whoever it is this week out

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

I think Hamilton are officially fucked now - everyone else 6 points ahead of them after today.

Paddy & Izaguirre by far out best players yet again so far. Ki being missed through the middle. Getting close to scary capitulation time - a second goal would be most welcome.

onimo, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

Brown sent off and will miss the Rangers game.

onimo, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)

#captain

onimo, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

RT @joshooiveld20 Keenan Cahill is the bomb hahaha hilarious! http://yfrog.com/gzl1lbtj

hey DARSH (cozen), Thursday, 30 December 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

RT @VladiW7 Cast away is on tonite! One of the best films ever for me.. Wat u think?

hey DARSH (cozen), Thursday, 30 December 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

My facebook suddenly full of annoying women all deciding they want season tickets to Celtic to go and look at Freddie Ljungberg. Grrrrr.

ailsa, Thursday, 30 December 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

~deletes 'ooh ljungberg he's so dreamy' status update~

hey DARSH (cozen), Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

tbh though
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_01/LjungbergKleinFILER_468x645.jpg

xp

onimo, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

though he's no http://images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/285x214/49249_1.jpg

onimo, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_01/LjungbergKleinFILER_468x645.jpg

Nah, does nothing for me. Seriously. Also, horrible tattoo.

ailsa, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

haha, xpost to post EXACTLY the same picture.

That is one BAD picture of the Derry Pele though.

ailsa, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

ljungberg is smokin'

~updates list of inspirational people~

hey DARSH (cozen), Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

henrik knows

RT @Henrik_Larsson: Freddie on the pitch at Old Firm? Definitely a boost!

hey DARSH (cozen), Thursday, 30 December 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1343027/Celtic-exchange-Georgios-Samaras-land-Sporting-Lisbons-Marco-Caneira.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Celtic are keen on a deal for Sporting Lisbon centre half Marco Caneira that could see Georgios Samaras move in the opposite direction.
Reports in Portugal say a fee of about £1million has been verbally agreed for Caneira's move to Parkhead, but that could change if Samaras can be talked into heading to Portugal.

hmm

onimo, Friday, 31 December 2010 13:07 (fifteen years ago)

Gonna end up with a team full of guys who haven't played football for months. Still >>>>>> any team with Sami in it though

onimo, Friday, 31 December 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

:-(

Sami's not all bad. He's no Daryl Murphy anyway (damning with faint praise, I know).

Gonna end up with a team full of guys who haven't played football for months

Haven't seen much evidence of the current incumbents doing much in the way of footballing, tbh.

ailsa, Friday, 31 December 2010 13:14 (fifteen years ago)

OH FFS

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Saturday, 1 January 2011 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

CalderwOUT

I reckon we should offer the job to Roy Hodgson, he'll be looking for work by the middle of the week and can't be any worse.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Saturday, 1 January 2011 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

I am watching Only an Excuse. It is almost as pish as Hibs.

ailsa, Saturday, 1 January 2011 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

Damning it with faint praise.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Saturday, 1 January 2011 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

I lolled at a few bit of OAE. Might have been a bit drunk though.

Hibs were shite. Hearts land of the giants keep the ball in the air crap is annoyingly effective.

onimo, Saturday, 1 January 2011 15:00 (fifteen years ago)

Ooh, look, no Ljungberg, Charlie Mulgrew in midfield, Sami up front on his own. Rangers have a 19 year old that no-one's ever heard of in midfield. This'll be, um, interesting.

ailsa, Sunday, 2 January 2011 12:30 (fifteen years ago)

Not terrible so far (famous last words?). Mulgrew ludicrous yellow for getting brought down then stroked across the face by Boogie. McCulloch ludicrous non-yellow for kicking Mulgrew up the arse. Decidedly lacking in a striker, though Sami doing better than expected.

ailsa, Sunday, 2 January 2011 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

yasssssss

joran van der snood (cozen), Sunday, 2 January 2011 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

allan mcgregor sold the pooch lol

joran van der snood (cozen), Sunday, 2 January 2011 14:06 (fifteen years ago)

screwed the pooch even d'oh

joran van der snood (cozen), Sunday, 2 January 2011 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

sami's on the nandrolone today!

joran van der snood (cozen), Sunday, 2 January 2011 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

no second yellow for bougherra?!

joran van der snood (cozen), Sunday, 2 January 2011 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

He's unsendoffable, do you not remember the last time he was on a yellow after five minutes then spent the rest of the game kicking people for fun?

ailsa, Sunday, 2 January 2011 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

feels good, man

joran van der snood (cozen), Sunday, 2 January 2011 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

Samaras, Rogne, Kayal, Izzy, all excellent. Did Misser get the ball at all at any time?

ailsa, Sunday, 2 January 2011 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

once or twice to no effect, rogne had him in his pocket.

joran van der snood (cozen), Sunday, 2 January 2011 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

what's the deal w/crosas... do him and lennon just not get on?

joran van der snood (cozen), Sunday, 2 January 2011 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

Rumours are that him and Juarez have off-field issues.

ailsa, Sunday, 2 January 2011 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

btw, Sol Bamba off to Leicester - don't know if that's going to make Hibs better or worse...

ailsa, Sunday, 2 January 2011 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

:D

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 2 January 2011 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

Still awake.just watched 6 and a half hour long Celtic documentary. By the end of it I almost forgot yesterday's score,but my fergus mccann impersonation has improved a bit.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Monday, 3 January 2011 09:26 (fifteen years ago)

Celtic allegedly after a huge striker that doesn't score goals. Now why would we need another one of those?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Huseklepp

onimo, Thursday, 6 January 2011 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

interesting numbers (though can't be arsed checking the accuracy)

TheAwayEnd The Away End
by celticrumours
Interesting statistic re the costs of the Old Firm's starting line-ups on Sunday. Rangers XI cost £13.2m, compared to Celtic's £3.85m.

onimo, Thursday, 6 January 2011 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

There was a breakdown on Kerrydale Street yesterday, seemed accurate enough. Obviously if you ignore the fact that all our expensive players (Brown, Hinkel, Hooper, Murphy, Ki) are broken or suspended or crap or on international duty, then it makes us look like expert wheeler-dealers. Rangers had expensive Jelavic out as well, tbf.

Also, surely after huge striker who doesn't score goals because his surname is nearly Hunskelper.

ailsa, Thursday, 6 January 2011 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4831/leckiewalksinrain.jpg

^Bill Leckie looking for a date, don't contact him if you have a bad cough.

onimo, Thursday, 6 January 2011 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

I keep meaning to post that, it's great, isn't it? Such a way with words for a bloke who writes for a living.

Also, lol honesty's crucial. If we meet, feel free to tell me that all of the above is a load of nonsense. If I ever pass him in the street, I will gladly tell him what I think of his crucial honesty.

ailsa, Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

Just stumbled across this from a Guardian link, excellent footage of the 2-2 derby match from 1967.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL2YQxQhMRo

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2011/jan/07/joy-of-six-anni-mirabiles

onimo, Friday, 7 January 2011 13:31 (fifteen years ago)

Walter Smith moaning again about the financial constraints placed on him despite him just losing to a Celtic team that cost less than Kyle Lafferty.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11788_6639425,00.html

"Of course the ironic aspect, not just for Rangers but for everybody, is that the banks are telling us what we can and can't do.

"Maybe someone should have done that with them a long time before they started."

There you have it - it's the bank's fault that Rangers spent too much money.

onimo, Friday, 7 January 2011 13:35 (fifteen years ago)

also

There isn't a long-term view, they are only looking at it from a short-term perspective.

says Walter Smith, who leaves Rangers in four months time.

onimo, Friday, 7 January 2011 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

At what stage of the bank telling them what they can and can't spend their money on does it become the case that they are in administration?

ailsa, Friday, 7 January 2011 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

No fucking idea.

Jelavic + Beattie = more than Celtic spent in the summer window so he really needs to just shut the fuck up.

onimo, Friday, 7 January 2011 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

http://celticfanzone.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/anysparechingemister.jpg

onimo, Friday, 7 January 2011 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

lol

Herald main front page today has a black-edged picture of poor Wattie - looking like an obituary edition of the paper - and then the sports section has a whole front page devoted to his "boo hoo we so poor" bleatings about not even being allowed to borrow players, let alone spend non-existent money on them. Then you turn inside and some Honduran mate of Izaguirre's and that Bouzid chappie from Hearts are all "hi dere we are going to sign for Rangers", and an article about a £2m bid being put together for David Goodwillie.

ailsa, Friday, 7 January 2011 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

Aye see if they manage to sign a couple of players it will be all about how Walter played a canny hand and forced the bank into investing where it was needed etc etc. No-one will go "so ye were talking pish the other day then Walter?"

onimo, Friday, 7 January 2011 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sportsound-on-BBC-Radio-Scotland/139728596065539

Rangers agree to sell Kenny Miller to Birmingham City. More on Sportsound at 6:10pm BBC Radio Scotland MW.

onimo, Friday, 7 January 2011 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

Byee!! Looking forward to Laughable leading the line already.

Rumour on Twitter than the fee they couldn't knock back is a massive £700k.

ailsa, Friday, 7 January 2011 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

Presume he's one of the higher earners though, aye?

ailsa, Friday, 7 January 2011 16:26 (fifteen years ago)

Exactly what they're supposed to have offered for Goodwillie, funnily enough.

xp

onimo, Friday, 7 January 2011 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

No idea what he's earning but I can't imagine there are too many on better money. Looks like Nosurname's expecting to sign Goodbilly and that's why the moany bank story came out - so it's their fault and not his that they accepted an offer for Miller.

onimo, Friday, 7 January 2011 16:34 (fifteen years ago)

The Kenny-knocks-back-move-so-we-can-pretend-we-tried-to-sign-Goodwillie-but-don't-actually-have-to plan didn't take long!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jan/07/kenny-miller-birmingham-rangers?cat=football&type=article

ailsa, Friday, 7 January 2011 22:16 (fifteen years ago)

The Sun's columnists are just incredible, btw. After Leckie's pish last week about orchestrated coughing and the audacity of the polis letting a bloke in fancy dress attend a football game, Andy Goram takes talking pish to a whole new level.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/3337270/We-will-note-this-down-as-the-day-bankers-cost-Gers-the-title.html

ailsa, Saturday, 8 January 2011 02:19 (fifteen years ago)

wow.

There are many more teams in England with higher debts than Rangers who are still able to operate in the transfer market.

The last time I looked Hearts had major debts of £30m.

1. Many more teams in England have much higher guaranteed income, actually service their debts, and don't have £15-£40M pound tax bills hanging over them.
2. Rangers *are* operating in the transfer market. As long as 24 hours ago they made a made for one of Scotland's most promising young players.
3. Hearts debts are owed to the bank owned by the man who owns Hearts. He's unlikely to start hammering himself to pay himself when he's in a comfy position of siphoning off millions in interest every year.*
4. RANGERS' POSITION IS ALL THEIR OWN FAULT!

*Romanov getting bored and fucking off will destroy Hearts. It won't have them second in the league with games in hand and able to field a team against Celtic that features the 6 most expensive players on the pitch.

Funny how Nosurname's hands being tied only became a story following and embarrassing home defeat to Celtic. It was all rosy a week ago.
Funny how when we're "in crisis" the manager and the players are questioned by the press yet when it's Rangers it's all down to the banks. No-one thought for a second that a Rangers first team (only Naismith out iirc) would lose badly to a Celtic team so short of midfielders that Mulgrew got a game. Everyone (including me) thought Rangers would win and go a long way to securing the league. That they didn't is nothing to do with The Bank.

onimo, Saturday, 8 January 2011 11:28 (fifteen years ago)

What's also amazing is how all the financial info is coming from the Cardigan and everyone's swallowing it and feeling sorry for him. Can you IMAGINE if Neil Lennon was talking to the press every day about his financial constraints and blaming everyone but himself? He's be laughed out of the room. Yet the Cardigan gets black-edged leaders on the front of the Herald like he's fucking died or something. Why's no-one talking to the chairman/rest of the board?

Also Can you imagine what Walter would have done had he had the money Dick Advocaat had to spend?
If Walter had been able to splash out £85million, Rangers would be Kings of Europe by now

He would have just spent it on an assortment of past-it hackers and cloggers, and maybe one player who looks half-decent but ends up perma-broke. FFS, they cranked open the "warchest" in the summer and the best he could come up with was spending money on James fucking Beattie? Yet £85m will take them past Barcelona, aye? You might want to see how much money has been spent on Real Madrid recently, I'd put forward the idea that Jose Mourinho is a better coach than Walter (never wanted to work in the Scottish media yesterday...), and look at what happened to them last time out.

Mind you, they don't have new wonderkid Jamie Ness, do they?

ailsa, Saturday, 8 January 2011 12:20 (fifteen years ago)

How much did Walter spend first time out, btw? Surely he didn't add to the debt mountain that's threatening to collapse and bury his beloved Gers?

ailsa, Saturday, 8 January 2011 12:28 (fifteen years ago)

No idea - he's spent around £20m with his hands tied since he came back. Fuckin magician tbh.

Kelvin Wilson's signed a pre-contract to join Celtic in the summer.

onimo, Saturday, 8 January 2011 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

Colin LOLderwood, amirite?

ailsa, Saturday, 8 January 2011 16:51 (fifteen years ago)

Past caring. We could focus on not going down, at least.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Saturday, 8 January 2011 16:55 (fifteen years ago)

Also lol St Midden.

onimo, you wanting to go to the CIS semi-final? Should give us a better chance of tickets for the final. £20 a throw, I can get them and you can pay me back if you want...

ailsa, Saturday, 8 January 2011 17:04 (fifteen years ago)

aye could do - wee day out at Hampden vs a resurgent sheeple team

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Saturday, 8 January 2011 17:22 (fifteen years ago)

Will email you then.

ailsa, Saturday, 8 January 2011 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

Rangers game off midweek as they were due to play St Midden who now have a replay against the mighty Peterhead instead. Backlog!

ailsa, Saturday, 8 January 2011 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, and Misser's bigger offer is apparently from Fiorentina.

ailsa, Saturday, 8 January 2011 22:21 (fifteen years ago)

It was Marseille the other day.

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Saturday, 8 January 2011 22:33 (fifteen years ago)

Take it the middle east thing's off then? Just sticking pins in maps, I reckon.

ailsa, Saturday, 8 January 2011 22:38 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.u.tv/News/Bullet-death-threats-mailed-to-Celtic/deda36b7-32a8-48d5-a57c-6970d66d0dbc

Fucking shocking.

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

Read that on a forum last night, but hadn't seen a link to it so wasn't sure if it was right enough. Disgraceful, aye.

Lurgan-born Lennon has received other threats in the past, quitting his playing career for Northern Ireland in 2002 after a warning from sectarian gangs

Not to mention being beaten unconscious while out for a pint, and having "Neil Lennon RIP" painted onto the street outside his house.

Targetting the Northern Irish blokes at Celtic, take it Paddy's too hard to fuck with...(I know, is not really time for joking).

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

24 ZALUSKA, Lukasz
5 MAJSTOROVIC, Daniel
12 WILSON, Mark
21 MULGREW, Charlie
25 ROGNE, Thomas
16 LEDLEY, Joe
20 MCCOURT, Paddy
33 KAYAL, Beram
49 FORREST, James
7 LJUNGBERG, Freddie
9 SAMARAS, Georgios

Mulgrew puts a good shift in in midfield against Rangers so Lennie makes him a left-back again :/

Freddie makes his debut - hopefully his first cup game goes better than those of Roy and Robbie Keane.

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

Robbie Keane's first cup game was OK, it was his first league game that was a stinker.

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

(for a value of OK that includes getting a fright off Dunfermline, obv)

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

oh aye, was thinking Ross Co was his first.

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

Terrific article about Neil Lennon:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/rising-above-great-divide-2489414.html

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

ta for the link, v good read

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

Mulgrew charged

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-12145642

A Celtic footballer and his wife have been charged under section 12 of the Children and Young Persons Act.

Charlie Mulgrew, 24, and his wife Alana, 22, were charged after reports a child was left in a car in a Costco car park in Springburn, Glasgow, on 22 December.

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

Assumed Majstorovic had the wean covered while he was positioned elsewhere, eh :-)

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

Twitter just gone lolz with "OMG Charlie Mulgrew, don't leave the mascot in the tunnel" type jokes. I got mine in first :-)

'mon teh hoops!

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

fuck off Davie Provan - shoulder to shoulder fuck all challenge and he's shouting for a pen.

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

Zaluska as confident and assured as one would expect :/

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

Shieldfield Park looks like Kingsmills Park Inverness RIP :-(

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, look, Charlie Mulgrew on an early booking.

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

Is izzy on the bench? I'd put him on now tbh.

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

dickish challenge from Wilson - both full back s booked :(

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

Don't think he is. Can't believe a bunch of 3rd division part-timers are getting the better of Charlie Mulgrew. Last week, flashiest of pan-flashes ever. Possibly because he wasn't having to defend.

xpost about Izzy

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

Dan!

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

<3

Even though he gives me the fear.

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

http://i54.tinypic.com/1z1yann.jpg

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 16:33 (fifteen years ago)

lol

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 16:49 (fifteen years ago)

LOL Bamba suddenly getting adequate.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

Celtic likely to go to Hamilton on Wednesday with no strikers (current evidence of Anthony Stokes suggests he doesn't count). FEAR.

Thankfully no Hamilton fans on this thread to laugh at us.

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 17:52 (fifteen years ago)

<3 this photo http://yfrog.com/h7l2azzj

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

does this work?
http://a.yfrog.com/img619/1561/l2azz.jpg

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

haha, yeah, saw that yesterday. Amazing.

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

Or earlier today, dunno. Ki v. fond of the old self-portraits on Twitter though, but Cha's photobombing is A++++

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

Neil Lennon
@OfficialNeil

^not sure about this yet.

"Following 1" - @marccrosas

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

fake Paddy hanging up his account :)

PaddyMcCourt20 Patrick J, McCourt
Touched and slightly freaked by the number of 'don't go' tweets guys, but Laugherty's maw won't ride herself you know! Peace out #Celtic

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

not sure about Neil Lennon or Gary Hooper, don't seem likely. Will miss fake Paddy, but PaddyFacts still a valuable source of lolz.

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

Lennon is legit, Hooper one already suspended.

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

lol
marccrosas Marc Crosas Luque
Yes..the gaffer is on twitter!
30 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

DominicCervi1 Dominic Cervi
@
@marccrosas Does this mean I need to follow him?
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

you know the darts are rubbish when you spend the whole match looking at football shite on the internet.

Love this Lennie shot
http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/UMjoYeUsgCASWbmLPPkGUA67057/GW360H268

also future gaffer vs future captain
http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/73wyOY8_Py4ZYnWn1z-oYQ68353/GW360H268

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

Does Neil Lennon even know who Dominic Cervi is?

xpost, aye, been doing exactly the same! That first pic = quality excuse to break out "have you seen a handsome Hun?"

ailsa, Sunday, 9 January 2011 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

MIND CONTROL
http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/qh1JxPVJIzW_D5vNW1vYhw425153

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Sunday, 9 January 2011 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

That'll get you a quarter of a Goodwillie, aka a Badwillie.

Prince wouldn't ‘woa’ (onimo), Monday, 10 January 2011 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

haha, he's not playing tonight, so chance to see the dream team lineup of Laughable and James Beefie live on telly.

ailsa, Monday, 10 January 2011 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

Kyle Lafferty taking on the mantle of The Unbookable One tonight. Urgh. I had to go and look at baby pandas on the internet to redress my rage balance.

ailsa, Monday, 10 January 2011 21:41 (fifteen years ago)

Fifth round draw. Can you guess which one's going to be on the telly?

Aberdeen v Montrose OR Dunfermline Athletic

Inverness Caledonian Thistle v Greenock Morton OR Airdrie United

Rangers v Celtic

Hibernian OR Ayr United St Mirren OR Peterhead

Hamilton Academical v Dundee United OR Ross County

Stenhousemuir OR Threave Rovers OR Stranraer v Motherwell

East Stirlingshire OR Buckie Thistle v Queen of the South OR Brechin City

Heart of Midlothian OR St Johnstone v Falkirk OR Partick Thistle

ailsa, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

Must've fucked up and done "round ball round ball" - I blame Biffy Clyro.

onimotopoeic (onimo), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

Neil Lennon handed a ridiculous six-match ban after appealing a two-match ban handed down after a game at Tannadice where Peter Houston wasn't exactly the embodiment of decorum:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/9358188.stm

Celtic re-appealing, unsurprisingly.

ailsa, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

I asked this question of alisa on the MLS thread, brought it over here to see if I can get any more info.

Chicago is being linked with David Wittenveen and Mickael Antoine Curier from the SPL, any opinions? I've not heard much to be excited about.

dan m, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

Neil Lennon handed a ridiculous six-match ban after appealing a two-match ban handed down after a game at Tannadice where Peter Houston wasn't exactly the embodiment of decorum

It's for the game against hearts at tynecastle.

I don't know who the first one of those two is and seem to remember curier being ok haha,useful.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

Ah, OK, I thought it was for Tannadice. Never mind, I have forgotten how to read the links I link to. Anyway, still a ridiculous ban.

dan, I had a go at your question on the MLS thread.

ailsa, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

one of these days, I will use my mod powers to delete posts where I demonstrate extreme stupidity.

ailsa, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

Apparently we're having a feud with the SFA, according to Reporting Scotland, who have just spelt Mjallby's name wrong on their caption.

ailsa, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

haha, wtf, just saw the draw, George Peat actually said "you're in trouble boy" to Biffy Clyro dude who did the draw :-)

ailsa, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

Walter Nosurname charged through an official into the Hibs dugout to offer Mixu a square go - 4 match ban. Lennon shouted at a ref, first ever offence as a manager - 6 matches. That's one less than Luis Suarez got for biting someone.

onimotopoeic (onimo), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, but he's CONTROVERSIAL. And his playing style was CONFRONTATIONAL.

If you believe crappy newspapers. Which I really should stop reading, but I like maintaining the shoulder-chip.

In other news, Hearts papped out the cup by the Super Js.

ailsa, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, and this is a load of old arse an' all. Not often you'll hear me saying "good for Terry Butcher" but, um, good for Terry Butcher.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/inverness/219850-butcher-fumes-at-spl-over-rangers-date/

ailsa, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 23:26 (fifteen years ago)

Paddy also sent a bullet. Obviously in a true Paddy metaphorical style, his got a bit further without anyone being able to intercept it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12168533

Graham Spiers had an article in the Times yesterday about why Neil Lennon is so despised by idiots - the usual confrontational (see every manager in the SPL ever), outspoken (ditto), Irish (oh noes!), Catholic (ditto) and swaggering. He does however make the excellent point that Graeme Souness was also confrontational and controversial and swaggering and gallus and whatever, and never got NEAR the level of abuse and agression that Lennon has to deal with on a daily basis. Other than that, it's a fairly meh article, but I thought the Souness comparison was a decent one.

http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/138055-excellent-article-on-lennon-by-spiers-in-todays-times/

(this isn't the forum I read it on, because I would go nutzoid on the morons posting comments on it)

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 09:43 (fifteen years ago)

Paddy caught his bullet mid-flight and threw it back across the Irish Sea, straight into the heart of the sender.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

I have thought he'd have dribbled it around a couple of innocent bystanders first tbh.

onimotopoeic (onimo), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

Anyway, fuck these bigots, fuck the sfa, fuck the shambles that is premier league restructuring (i.e. every suggestion vetoed by someone).

When can we join the Blue Square?

onimotopoeic (onimo), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

and can we rename the Green Square? :P

onimotopoeic (onimo), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

I'm increasingly of the opinion that we need to get out of the SPL (and I don't mean by getting relegated to the SFL). The TV and gate money are crap up here and getting crapper as time goes on, and our chances of decent European football are looking remote, so I think I'd rather play in a fair and honest league and work our way up to whatever level it turns out we deserve to be at.

I'm not sure this would be wildly popular among the wider support though - a few seasons of lower-league football against teams you've only heard of on Soccer Saturday, rarely on the telly, and no chance of getting into Europe at all. But the rewards could be decent in the long-term.

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

wtf sfa

Not up to speed here but that statement seems completely out of order re: celtic appeal

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 17:41 (fifteen years ago)

Out of order, and typical SFA bullshit. Neil Lennon refused to comment pre-match other than to say that it was in the hands of the legal team (I take it you're talking about George Peat's gibberings, and not Celtic statement as linked to upthread).

Seriously, time to get the fuck out.

(you can tell I'm excited about watching Celtic right now, playing with no fucking strikers against Hamilton Accies)

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

I really fucking hate when Sky Sports split-screen the football to listen to a manager babbling inanely.

Sorry, hate to stop typing to go WAU at Paddy McCourt being awes again. <3

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

DIRTY CHEATING CNUT LINESMAN etc. Probably on an SFA bonus to prompt Neil Lennon into proving himself to be all angry and undisciplined and that </paranoia>

None of this is taking away from the fact that we are basically pish.

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

stokes as a lone frontman doesnae even begin to work.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

how the fuck was that a straight red?!

geronimo (cozen), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

oh it's the old firm peno ref

disregard the qn above

geronimo (cozen), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

smh, scottish football is a fucking disgrace.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

skelton for hamilton has made about 5 or 6 fouls and has yet to be booked.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

fuck sake paddy, you have been diabolical.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

DIRTY CHEATING CNUT LINESMAN etc. Probably on an SFA bonus to prompt Neil Lennon into proving himself to be all angry and undisciplined and that </paranoia>

This was before the Forrest red, btw.

Celtic are not great, but the refereeing has been pish. Bring back the Luxembourg dude, at least he only disallowed one goal wrongly.

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

hi guys, sorry to interrupt the agony. Leigh Griffiths, Dundee, any good?

Tinker Tailor Soulja Boy Tell 'Em (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, decent striker.

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

Not that I know what one of them is, I've been watching Anthony Stokes for an hour.

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

booked for being fouled in the box. brilliant.

celtic have been fucking rotten though, thrown away the whole benefit of having beaten the huns.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

Rotten-ness will be the story, but this refereeing has been fucking shameless. Seriously, wtf does Gavin Skelton have to do to get booked? (play for Celtic, I assume...)

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:31 (fifteen years ago)

Truly baffling substitutions, btw.

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:32 (fifteen years ago)

right who is taking this?

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

stokes, fear.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

Get it right fucking up you, ya dobbers. Andy Walker bumping his gums about how Mensing shouldn't have been sent off for dumping Izzy on his arse right in front of goals.

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

Jesus fucking Christ.

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:40 (fifteen years ago)

fuck sake izaguirre, geez a fucking break.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:42 (fifteen years ago)

DIRTY CHEATING CNUT LINESMAN etc. Probably on an SFA bonus to prompt Neil Lennon into proving himself to be all angry and undisciplined and that </paranoia>

"Mr Murphy" slow to disallow that eh?

Ref was a cunt. Forest tackle was maybe a booking but never a red - compare with the over the top studs first tackle into Kayal in the first half. Skelton had numerous fouls, including one after the game had stopped for his last foul. Penalty for McGinn refused and he's booked for diving - is that Collum calling McGinn's integrity into question?

Stokes is a fucking joke up front on his own. We'd have been better with Levein's 4-6-0 given the injuries we had.

Why didn't Hamilton want the football, even with a man extra?

onimotopoeic (onimo), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:49 (fifteen years ago)

should Celtic be giving some credit to the SFA for finally being out in the open about their biases?

unrelated q: where does the Walter Nosurname meme come from?

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 22:02 (fifteen years ago)

Always referred to in the media as Walter.

That was a fucking shameless display of "refereeing". Amazing how a linesman that can't see a man standing miles offside can see a ball crossing a line when he's not even in line with it.

lol, paused the post-match to rant to my dad for a while. Gavin Skelton got the man of the match and the interviewer asked Canning if he thought the Canning-offside-goal was the sort of break that Accies could do with. FFS.

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 22:07 (fifteen years ago)

(you can guess the sort of laughing that I was lolling with, obv)

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 22:07 (fifteen years ago)

unrelated q: where does the Walter Nosurname meme come from?

― Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 22:02 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Always referred to in the media as Walter.

This is very noticeable when Neil Lennon is frequently referred to as "Lennon". Last week on Radio Scotland someone called him "Sir Walter" and they all had a wee laugh about it, like it was an in-joke with those in Scottish sports media.

onimotopoeic (onimo), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

Penalty given at 90 mins. Sign says 6 mins added. Game finally kicks off again on 92 mins after delays with Hamilton players arguing with the ref and not leaving the field and (I kid you not) the Hamilton keeper running away with the ball. Total stoppage time added: 6 mins.

onimotopoeic (onimo), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 22:15 (fifteen years ago)

b-b-but you get 30 seconds per goal and 30 seconds per booking! It sez so upthread! Surely the referees aren't applying different rules in different games. They have INTEGRITY! And we can't question it!

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 22:26 (fifteen years ago)

George Peat trending in the UK just now on Twitter.

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 22:45 (fifteen years ago)

btw, the commentators said at the start that Gollum was a last-minute replacement for the designated referee. Who was it meant to be, and why weren't they available?

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

cannae mind and sick.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 23:06 (fifteen years ago)

Ah, OK, it was Mike Tumilty. At least they had an adequate replacement...oh, wait (can't remember if I hate Tumilty or not, tbh)

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 23:08 (fifteen years ago)

View My Video

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 23:43 (fifteen years ago)

^ oops, nabbed the BBCode for that off a website, didn't bother checking it. Anyway, Martin Canning is fucking MILES offside.

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 23:44 (fifteen years ago)

lol:

joshooiveld20 jos hooiveld
Can someone send me Babel's nr.. Have to get some photoshopping done!

ailsa, Thursday, 13 January 2011 00:04 (fifteen years ago)

This is very noticeable when Neil Lennon is frequently referred to as "Lennon".

Was also noticeable vs "Strachan" and "Mowbray" as well, it's not just an anti-Lennon thing - and Strachan's a cheery wee media-friendly pundity kind of a guy as well, not like aggressive and controversial Neil Lennon :-).

I mean, Neil Lennon continues to be subjected to death threats, lives with depression, has been beaten unconscious, etc and still mostly comes across as a level-headed and articulate figure in dealings with the press, but you wouldn't think it to read some of the reports about him. Similarly, the "Sir Walter" thing really REALLY grinds my gears. Guy's a nasty piece of work who would get football stopped. Is this really what we'd rather hold up as a shining example in this country? (I know the answer to this already, btw)

My mind is still boggling at George Peat, btw.

“Celtic’s policy of airing their grievances in public is becoming tiresome,” he said.

“It is ironic that they have chosen to criticise the SFA’s processes and structures yet again on the eve of our two-day seminar which will culminate in a new strategy, incorporating streamlined structures and more efficient procedures."

I find George Peat (a man who criticised inference and innuendo by refusing to name the people he was moaning about, with no sense of self-awareness) to be tiresome. Where else are Celtic going to air their grievances? There's an appeals procedure for a reason, should they just know their place and shut up?

Also how is it ironic that Celtic are critical of old procedures when they are still in place? Has he been listening to Alanis Morrissette again?

Oh, and how come he's allowed to openly criticise a club and make his feelings known when there is an appeal pending?

ailsa, Thursday, 13 January 2011 09:36 (fifteen years ago)

It is also ironic, given the constant demands for transparency and accountability, that the statement issued by Celtic last night was not attributed to anyone

that stood out for me as particularly crazy bit of nitpicking. What are they supposed to do, have a long list of names at the end detailing who comes under the umbrella of Celtic Football Club?

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 13 January 2011 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, that's just mad. The statement wasn't on behalf of any individual, it was on behalf of the club. When the media officer of the Scottish Catholic Church put his name to a statement on behalf of the Church having a pop at Hugh Dallas, it became all about him and not about the church as a whole. You can't win!

ailsa, Thursday, 13 January 2011 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

Different thing though - Celtic statement is clearly from the entity 'Celtic Football Club', Catholic Church statement was from someone claiming to speak for the Catholic Church with no evidence of any consensus of opinion. I know of no Catholic who was consulted on it.

onimotopoeic (onimo), Thursday, 13 January 2011 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

Surely he was speaking on behalf of the decision makers or heid yins whatever though, I mean I doubt whoever the media/legal bod that drafted and issued the SFA statements went round speaking to all the youth-team players and the ticket office drones and whatever. The company/organisation will have a broadly-agreed stance on stuff which they're happy to have portrayed in the media, if it's coming from the PR dept or communications office or whatever, it should be assumed to be in line with organisational policy.

ailsa, Thursday, 13 January 2011 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

Celtic statements about the SFA, that is.

ailsa, Thursday, 13 January 2011 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

I don't know. High heid yins in churches aren't usually shy about speaking their own minds ime.

Everyone who appealed against dismissal from the SFA now has their job back btw, except for Hugh Dallas. I'm sure one of the IT bods asking George Peat if he'd like to see the contents of a memory stick containing records of who sent what to whom had no bearing on this (Peat declined btw, several times).

onimotopoeic (onimo), Thursday, 13 January 2011 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah that's as may be, but you agree the point of having a communications officer for issuing public statements, no, whether (s)he has a name or not?

Are you using inference and innuendo there, btw :-)

ailsa, Thursday, 13 January 2011 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

celtic were rotten to be fair

geronimo (cozen), Thursday, 13 January 2011 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

Yes, but if they'd been rotten and not a goal down and a player down and had been awarded a penalty for McGinn being clattered in the box, it might have still ended differently. Might. I did hear quite a lot of "but Hamilton had two players sent off and you got a penalty" counter-argument at work, like getting some decisions right counteracts getting a couple of game-changers completely wrong.

ailsa, Thursday, 13 January 2011 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

Thomas Rogne quoted in the papers today giving it the old "evens itself out over the course of the season" line, by saying that Hamilton had a controversial goal given for them on Wednesday, but they might find themselves on the receiving end of a similarly controversial goal in their next game. Who's their next game against again? :-)

ailsa, Friday, 14 January 2011 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

joshooiveld20 jos hooiveld
Funny to see how the scottish newspapers translate norwegian.. Scandalous! Big thomas won't say such things..

^following reports that Rogne claimed Celtic were cheated (since denied by Celtic's Nofirstnameorsurname http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory.php?item=544)

onimotopoeic (onimo), Friday, 14 January 2011 13:50 (fifteen years ago)

There was a tiny bit in the Herald saying that his comments in the Norwegian press won't see him hauled up on a disrepute charge for questioning refereeing integrity since he gave a much nicer review of them to the Scottish hacks. I still hope his comment that Hamilton got a dodgy goal given against Celtic but might lose a dodgy one to Rangers was intentionally-worded to be ambiguous enough to be construed as "these things even themselves out" though :-)

ailsa, Friday, 14 January 2011 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

Paddy McCourt says our refs are no worse than LoI refs, so that's something.

onimotopoeic (onimo), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

David Goodwillie and David Robertson interviewed by police in connection with a sexual assault, according to Reporting Scotland just now. No charges brought, they are helping police with their enquiries.

ailsa, Friday, 14 January 2011 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

It's really shitty of Reporting Scotland to have named them (the police didn't name them, RS "understood" that they were the players involved), btw.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-12193925

ailsa, Friday, 14 January 2011 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, when it was Allan McGregor being accused of stuff, they didn't even narrow it down to a club...

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7418/attackb.jpg

ailsa, Friday, 14 January 2011 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

Hooper's back, as is Brown. No Ledley or Mulgrew

             Forster
Wilson Rogne Majstorovic Izaguirre

Brown Kayal

Forrest McCourt
Stokes Hooper

Dioufy Cam Sexy (onimo), Saturday, 15 January 2011 11:43 (fifteen years ago)

I think that's close to the best team available, I'd maybe go with Ledley for Forrest (who's been struggling since coming back from injury) and moving Brown out to the right, though not as wide as Forrest.

Seem to recall that Mexican lad looking special for five minutes in the dim and ddistant. No idea what went on there.

Dioufy Cam Sexy (onimo), Saturday, 15 January 2011 11:51 (fifteen years ago)

Any chance of at least attempting to score? This is fucking dire.

Dioufy Cam Sexy (onimo), Saturday, 15 January 2011 12:28 (fifteen years ago)

we're just fucking shit the now really aren't we?

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 15 January 2011 12:34 (fifteen years ago)

Yogi says he's enjoying it. That says a lot.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Saturday, 15 January 2011 12:34 (fifteen years ago)

first shot 33 minutes.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 15 January 2011 12:36 (fifteen years ago)

first shot for celtic anyway.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 15 January 2011 12:36 (fifteen years ago)

majstorovic's headers just go anywhere. he can't aim a fucking header.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 15 January 2011 12:42 (fifteen years ago)

YAAAAS!

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 15 January 2011 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

I was about to post a moan about Hooper missing there :)

Great goal.

Dioufy Cam Sexy (onimo), Saturday, 15 January 2011 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

amazing by hooper there.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 15 January 2011 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

Craig Burley reckons a football pitch is more than 100 yards wide, no wonder we sign so many wingers - they must get lost out there.

Dioufy Cam Sexy (onimo), Saturday, 15 January 2011 12:53 (fifteen years ago)

yeah that was a pretty remedial spell of conversation.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 15 January 2011 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

^_^

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 15 January 2011 13:09 (fifteen years ago)

some of the fans at Easter Road

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg612/scaled.php?tn=0&server=612&filename=sxpdk.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

Dioufy Cam Sexy (onimo), Saturday, 15 January 2011 13:10 (fifteen years ago)

feel like we might have thread wars if MON criticism continues in same vein on naming rights thread.

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Saturday, 15 January 2011 13:12 (fifteen years ago)

ismael klata put slade in his place with "Outstanding work there. Anyone-who-spends-zero-pounds-or-more-without-winning-the-treble out."

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 15 January 2011 13:14 (fifteen years ago)

true i feel the ship's been righted somewhat

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Saturday, 15 January 2011 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

hey I love O'Neill the man I just think his managerial track record is /\/\/\/\/\

I'll make you bang, combinating with smang (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 January 2011 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

a house of cards?

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Saturday, 15 January 2011 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

MIA's third album?

Dioufy Cam Sexy (onimo), Saturday, 15 January 2011 13:23 (fifteen years ago)

Great goal from Stokes there - Hibs are a shambles tbf.

Dioufy Cam Sexy (onimo), Saturday, 15 January 2011 13:24 (fifteen years ago)

got a fiver on a 1-3. 'mon the hibs.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 15 January 2011 13:26 (fifteen years ago)

Wow strikers. That is all. Oh aye, and <3 Kayal

ailsa, Saturday, 15 January 2011 18:38 (fifteen years ago)

Word on the streets (well, the internets) is that Jos Hooiveld's off to talk himself up and then be pish at Copenhagen for the rest of the season. Hopefully a proper defender on the way, because if Rogne or Dan get suspended/hurt, that leaves us with Glenda. And no-one wants to see that.

ailsa, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

I was hoping Hamilton would keep us up but a ten team league puts the kybosh on that.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:14 (fifteen years ago)

David Goodwillie charged with rape, according to the Beeb.

That photo of Jos, Efra and Crosas totally belongs in the bromance thread.

ailsa, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

things you really, really shouldn't laugh at: 'goodwillie charged with rape'

a fierce jet of passion-fruit cream and powdered mint leaves (acoleuthic), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

he did always seem like a pretty terrible person. All part of his ploy to make himself seem like a natural Rangers player.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

Means (some) Celtic fans only need to change the name in their song if McGregor is sold.

David Murray talking to Jim Traynor many moonbeams ago:
http://twitpic.com/3qy6jw/full

"I want to get involved with Ayr... no other club interests me."
"Football is a business. Therefore, you don't sell your assets."

Dioufy Cam Sexy (onimo), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

ha, I've just been reading that article. How's his basketball, volleyball and hockey teams doing these days?

ailsa, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

LA Lakers doing pretty well IIRC.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Monday, 17 January 2011 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

Hibs = still pish. Sorry aldo.

ailsa, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

Absolute peach from Mark Roberts. lol defending though

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, when a second division team are taking the piss out of your defenders, then the game's a bogey.

ailsa, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

Eddie Turnbull is only 17 years older than Craig Brown. Maybe we should try him.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

Laugh, cry, shoot Calderwood, all the same.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:50 (fifteen years ago)

Somebody on the BBC boards has suggested Hibs are the worst team in the league, which is absolute rubbish, obviously.

We're worse than nearly everybody in Junior football too.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:55 (fifteen years ago)

Least unexpected "giant"-killing ever?

I am currently watching Cardiff v Stoke on S4C with someone who sounds very like John Hartson commentating in Welsh - various ex-SPLers on show, and a way better game than Ayr v Hibs.

ailsa, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 22:08 (fifteen years ago)

what the shit is that tattoo on walters

a fierce jet of passion-fruit cream and powdered mint leaves (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

Terry Butcher having a right good go at tonight's referee & the SPL, and ends by threatening to smash a bottle of wine over someone's head (the intended recipient of his glassing not named, so expect a statement about disrespecting referees, tiresome airing of dirty laundry in public and some bleating about inference and innuendo at an SFA hearing near you soon....). Is it just me, or does he sound *gasp* PARANOID here? (I think he has some good points, btw)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/9366087.stm

ailsa, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 00:09 (fifteen years ago)

From Olivier Kapo's blog:
http://zebwe.com/2011/01/19/celtic-ma-decision-est-prise/

You'll need to use Google Translate to turn this into "Peter Lawell's an interfering bawbag."

onimo, Thursday, 20 January 2011 13:41 (fifteen years ago)

Helpful translation for you:

As far as I can see, it basically goes like:

Celtic: have a three month trial to see if you're worth what we'd like to pay you if it turns out you're good. *three months pass* Right-o, we don't think you're worth it. How about these different terms based on what we've seen?

Kapo: No ta

Celtic: Cheerio then!

ailsa, Thursday, 20 January 2011 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

oops, forgot the link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jan/19/olivier-kapo-celtic

ailsa, Thursday, 20 January 2011 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

I think I prefer Kapo's version of the truth. He did more in a game and a half than Joe Ledley has done all season (though tbf Joe can kick a ball into the boot of a car from quite far away).

onimo, Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSLs3xUgPK8

onimo, Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

I presume there's more goes on in training that we don't see (hence disappearance of Crosas and Juarez, for example). Also, Ledley's no' that bad.

ailsa, Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

One pass in the Rangers game aside, he's no' that good either imo. I just don't see why he was rated so highly at Cardiff.

onimo, Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

Glenn Loovens was highly rated at Cardiff as well, fwiw.

ailsa, Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

fuckin Cardiff bastards

onimo, Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

They bought Lee Naylor too. Cardiff's opinions of footballers seems fairly at odds with the rest of the world, it must be said.

ailsa, Thursday, 20 January 2011 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/01/20/kenny-miller-arrives-in-turkey-gets-mobbed-pic-and-video/

lol

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 20 January 2011 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

if miller goes it leaves sammon of knowledge as best striker in the spl...maybe

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 20 January 2011 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

Sammon maybe behind Hooper and Jelavic. There was nothing in his previous seasons to suggest he'd become a 20 goals a season striker - dunno what's come over him this year.

I wonder why Rangers aren't in for him when he'd cost half as much as Goodwillie...

onimo, Thursday, 20 January 2011 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

couldn't keep miller out of the hoops eh

cozen, Thursday, 20 January 2011 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

Further to Joe Ledley's car boot success, turns out Daryl Murphy was the only Celtic player to succeed in the crossbar challenge being filmed today for Soccer AM.

I assume his success stemmed from someone telling him that he was actually supposed to get the ball INTO the net.

ailsa, Thursday, 20 January 2011 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

http://file010b.bebo.com/large/2006/04/19/09/336968770a639636284b993475378l.jpg

good times

flopson fauxhawk (nakhchivan), Friday, 21 January 2011 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

Have Rangers got a sell-on clause for Charlie Adam?

ailsa, Saturday, 22 January 2011 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

This Hearts v Rangers game is 100mph not-very-good stuff.

ailsa, Saturday, 22 January 2011 13:31 (fifteen years ago)

hearts threatening to make the league interesting

cozen, Saturday, 22 January 2011 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

Back pass incident was ridic.

They played Mogwai over the tannoy as I was walking in :)

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 22 January 2011 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, orchestrated campaign from somewhere or other. Think they were playing the tail end of it as we were coming in, but my ears were too cold to register anything. Would like to see the backpass thing again - my instinct was that it *was* a backpass, but I presume the disallowing of quick free kick and restarting with a dropped ball was because the referee disagreed.

Honest answer - did you think Stokes was going to not score after it took him four touches to get round Langfield?

ailsa, Saturday, 22 January 2011 18:02 (fifteen years ago)

Aye,I didn't think he was going to score even when I was watching the replay. V composed tho to be fair. Hooper's pass was great.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 22 January 2011 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

Quick swatch at a forum full of blokes watching game on Channel67 seems to suggest the backpass came off Kayal on the way to Langfield so wasn't a backpass at all.

ailsa, Saturday, 22 January 2011 18:11 (fifteen years ago)

Reminded me of Maciej Zurawski in the League Cup Final a few years back - why take one touch when seven will do? Everyone all "yay", me and onimo breathing huge comedy sighs of relief and decking ourselves laughing.

Another clean sheet, this time with a defence featuring Charlie Mulgrew at centre half for most of it. Sheep were really poor in the final third of the field.

No fecking idea why Hooiveld was allowed to go away on loan. We were joking before the game about being an injury away from a recall for Glenda, then Lenny said on the radio that Loovens was "out", so um, help?

ailsa, Saturday, 22 January 2011 18:14 (fifteen years ago)

I did wonder.keeper wouldn't have picked it up if it was a backpass I suppose. Very rarely happens.

Aye mulgrew at cb surreal,tho he wsnt bad. Not too much to contend with suppose.

Jam tarts be a much more difficult game.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 22 January 2011 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

Timed the Hearts goal brilliantly - were just walking past the Crown when we heard a big shout go up, stuck head round the door and looked up at the telly to see the ball just outside the box and two guys inside the door saying how it should have been a penalty, ten seconds later, ball in net, pub going mental. Hurrah!

ailsa, Saturday, 22 January 2011 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

Best bit of the Hearts game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIwv_dDwkYM

ailsa, Saturday, 22 January 2011 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

Onimo, mind we were talking about them fudging the form guide on Sky to make Celtic look bad? Six-game form guide available here via the dropdowns:

http://www.scotprem.com/content/default.asp?page=home_statistics

Disciplinary stats a bit of an eye-opener as well.

ailsa, Sunday, 23 January 2011 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

You can prove anything with stats eh - I checked the form guides last night as well :)

Kayal and Majstorovic putting in a hefty challenge for the cloggers league this year. Kayal has been booked in 4 out of 6 SPL games since coming back into the team. Big Dan managed 6 bookings in about 8 weeks leading up to Christmas.

Talking of cloggers - holy shit @ Muscrat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxdgSBbFLP4

onimo, Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jstAoQBAbZU

except a bit more vicious.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 23 January 2011 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

ouch.

ailsa, Sunday, 23 January 2011 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

noises about Georgios Samaras coming to MLS... is he on the outs?

dan m, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:44 (fifteen years ago)

I hope not, but I will probably be in a minority with this view (and I'll probably have changed my mind next time I see him play). Massively frustrating, and certainly not popular with fans, though given a huge amount of goodwill for now for scoring twice at Ibrox.

I think he's injured just now though.

ailsa, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:54 (fifteen years ago)

Richie Towell gone on loan to Hibs.

ailsa, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

Oh look, Darren O'Dea's on telly. Looking quite good as well. I'd have him back before Hooiveld or Loovens. What happened to Josh Thompson?

onimo, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

On loan at Rochdale apparently. Two central defenders out on loan and we're trying to buy one because we don't have any :/

onimo, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

Three out on loan - Josh, Jos, and DO'D. This is like when we sold Heid and put Mick out on loan last year :-/

ailsa, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

Also O'Dea back before Jos and Glenda = lessest of three evils tbh.

ailsa, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

Phil MacGiolla Bhain on Clyde One phone-in, making Jim Delahunt crap himself.

"Can I remind you you're on LIVE radio" straight after he opens with "I was talking to Martin Bain...." and drops the figures about Rangers' financial situation. Lots of "um, interesting, er" comments straight after.

http://www.4shared.com/audio/uz1gF4Sa/Phil_on_Clyde.html

ailsa, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 23:52 (fifteen years ago)

from Celtic Underground

Child neglect charges against Charlie Mulgrew have been dropped.

Looking forward to seeing that on the front page tomorrow.

Loovens apparently trained today. Be afraid.

onimo, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:06 (fifteen years ago)

Loovens apparently trained today

That's it, I've changed my mind about driving. I'll be hitting the booze at around 10am, before working out how to get a sofa to Celtic Park to hide behind for 90 minutes.

(have emailed you, btw)

ailsa, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:08 (fifteen years ago)

Phil seems very well informed for an Irish based journalist. I wonder who at Rangers & SFA is speaking to someone with a name like MacGhiolla Bhain.

(Am I recalling correctly that he was plain old McGullivan or similar when he lived in Scotland?)

onimo, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:09 (fifteen years ago)

No idea. Maybe it's Martin Bhain.

Guy's a bit up himself, possibly due to having zillions of slavish devotees hanging on his every word, much like a certain another Celtic blogger, but he does seem to have his sources for stuff (unlike the other one with his as-yet-unseen dossier)

ailsa, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:14 (fifteen years ago)

Sami, or fake Sami, is leaving

http://twitter.com/#!/samar9s

samar9s Georgios Samaras
I would like all the Celtic fans for there support you are truly legendary but it is time move on. Hail Hail in my heart always.
14 minutes ago

he never us

onimo, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:59 (fifteen years ago)

Not too shabby.

I think I walked by bobby petta outside.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 23:10 (fifteen years ago)

Football Manager 2011 knows what's what at the SFA.
http://a.yfrog.com/img616/5188/qf2.png

Great game tonight. Worst fucking shambles of a ref since the last one. Celtic barely put a tackle in and somehow got half a team booked while Skacel and Black got to kick anything they wanted (though Skacel's actual booking was harsh - I figure the ref decided he'd need to book someone before it looked too ridiculous). Was it just me or did he pause for 5 seconds trying to work a way to disallow the 3rd goal?

onimo, Thursday, 27 January 2011 00:07 (fifteen years ago)

Weirdly enough, I saw a bloke who looked like Bobby Petta standing talking to a couple of blokes on the concourse when I went for coffees at half time, but decided I'd forgotten what Bobby Petta looked like and it probably wasn't him at all. Perhaps it was him. Or we both saw the same bloke who looked a bit like Bobby Petta. Or he's got lookalikes all over the place.

Just watched the goals on Sky Sports News, the fresh air kick (or "nice dummy" if you're as charitable/hilarious as the bloke who sits next to us) on the lead-up to Paddy's goal still cracking me up.

I reckon sending off for Kello for the third goal, btw. Last man, brought Hooper down. Some ridiculous decisions, and Ian Black has reclaimed his place on the leaderboard of dirty horrible bastards with some (lack of) style. Our yellow cards were ridiculous, the only bad tackle we clocked from a Celtic player went unpunished! (Mark Wilson, second half, when he was already on a stupid dissent booking).

Nice to know Juarez exists outside the twitterverse.

ailsa, Thursday, 27 January 2011 00:42 (fifteen years ago)

Googling Bobby Petta (think it was him, btw!), turns out his real name is Alfred. Also he runs fitness bootcamps in the building I used to work in.

ailsa, Thursday, 27 January 2011 00:46 (fifteen years ago)

oh, and green brigade songs/applause was for a guy taken ill in the section next to them. thanks, internets!

ailsa, Thursday, 27 January 2011 01:09 (fifteen years ago)

I reckon sending off for Kello for the third goal, btw. Last man, brought Hooper down.

I'd agree with this if the ref stopped the game and gave a penalty (and I wanted a red at the time) but thinking about it now Kello didn't deny a goal scoring opportunity given that we scored.

Bobby Petta - now there was an enigmatic footballer. Hampden showboating that led to the Rangers players taking shots each at trying to cripple him (if I was a Gers fan I'd maybe have been applauding Reyna's charging two footed demolition that led to the red card). Looking like a fucking star away at Ajax. Turning Ricksen so many times he was hooked after 20 minutes and is still dizzy. Getting kicked out of a league cup final in 11 seconds (and subbed after 11 minutes?). Mostly being shite.

onimo, Thursday, 27 January 2011 10:45 (fifteen years ago)

oh yeah, we were talking about him during the game (discussing seating arrangements at Hampden - I was sitting right about six rows back just in front where he got halved in the cup final), I wonder if that's why I had him in my head when I saw a bloke that looked like him?

I hate the term "denying a goalscoring opportunity" (though source of many jokes whenever, say, Kenny Miller got tripped in the box). It was a straight-up foul and should have been punished as such, regardless of the outcome. What if Stokes had missed?

ailsa, Thursday, 27 January 2011 11:10 (fifteen years ago)

Straight up foul != red card.

Which of these do you think it was?

These are:
Serious foul play (a violent foul)
Violent conduct (any other act of violence)
Spitting at anyone
A deliberate handling offense to deny an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by any player other than a goalkeeper in his own penalty area
Committing an offence that denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity (informally known as a professional foul)
Using offensive, insulting or abusive language or gestures
Receiving a second caution (yellow card) in one game

Even if Stokes missed the tap-in he still had an obvious goal-scoring opportunity.

onimo, Thursday, 27 January 2011 11:17 (fifteen years ago)

I could made a vaguely coherent argument that he cost Hooper his obvious goalscoring opportunity, regardless of what Stokes did afterwards.

ailsa, Thursday, 27 January 2011 11:23 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/sport/Commons-join-Celtic-Rams-accept-offer/article-3151858-detail/article.html

Derbyshire press reporting Commons as a done deal.

onimo, Thursday, 27 January 2011 11:23 (fifteen years ago)

Can he play centre half?

(am being massively unfair on Chaz Mulgrew here, who did alright yesterday, but we're still one bad tackle/injury away from having another defensive crisis*)

* crisis which isn't exactly resulting in goals being shipped, obv, not that you'd know that from looking at the papers.

ailsa, Thursday, 27 January 2011 11:25 (fifteen years ago)

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/celtic/223860-commons-arrives-in-glasgow-ahead-of-celtic-move/

Whoop-de-doo.

ailsa, Thursday, 27 January 2011 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

Is he bringing Stevie Me's wife with him? ALLEGEDLY

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Thursday, 27 January 2011 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

I notice Richie Towell passed his Hibs initiation ceremony of being shite last night, btw.

ailsa, Thursday, 27 January 2011 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

CalderwOUT has no option but to throw him in tbh.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Thursday, 27 January 2011 18:05 (fifteen years ago)

Bottom of the table looking interesting. Had a brief chat with a Hibs season ticket holding mate last night, general impression was ARRRGGHH FUCK OFF PETRIE CALDERWOOD AND EVERY PLAYER EVER.

I fecking hate Hampden. And I fecking hate the annoying wee lassie sitting along from us who left her seat and clambered past to go somewhere about 20 fecking times. And I hate the family section because you can't get a quiet time to go and get a coffee because every fucker's buying stupidly overpriced hotdogs for their kids all afternoon.

Looking forward to going back in a month, obv.

ailsa, Saturday, 29 January 2011 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

Kenny Misser scores his first goal in Turkey. He's offside, and what looks like a handball as well. What a guy.

ailsa, Saturday, 29 January 2011 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

Couple of crackers from the BBC here:

Brown felt the third goal - the penalty scored by Anthony Stokes - was the crucial goal as it all but ended hopes of an Aberdeen fight-back. "We had hit the post to try to make a comeback when we were 2-0 down but when they scored the penalty it was an uphill struggle from then.

Third goal was Thomas Rogne, ya clown.

"I said to my players at half-time: 'we have to win the second half' - we did get one back and I actually think we had a great chance to get three other goals.

Kudos to onimo for predicting he would mention winning the second half. Off to read some more reports now to see if he won on any other statistics that don't matter as much as the one where we had more goals in the scored column and less in the against column.

ailsa, Saturday, 29 January 2011 22:19 (fifteen years ago)

Also, Broonie admits that Kris Commons is better than a 50 year old former drug addict:

"I've got to think that Commons's goal was a cross, he was very fortunate. I was right behind him and he was crossing the ball, in my opinion.

"If it was a shot then he's a far more skilful guy than Maradona"

ailsa, Saturday, 29 January 2011 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/9381148.stm

Commons not been there long enough to meet his team mates.

"especially with a left back like um er thingy that guy at left back"

:)

New drinking game - 1 shot for every time Kris Commons says "credit to" - you wouldn't have time to pour them in that 2 minute interview.

onimo, Sunday, 30 January 2011 10:45 (fifteen years ago)

Just read on twitter that there was a Rangers fan on the phone-ins last night saying everyone should withdraw their money from Lloyds banks. A Celtic fan came on after and said "for every fiver they withdraw I'll put in a tenner"* :D

Dunno why Gers fans are blaming Lloyds for this shit tbh. Like "how dare you loan us money we can't pay back!" No-one seems to be questioning who's borrowing it.

* for anyone who doesn't know, that was a direct dig at Rangers supremo David Murray's statement a few years ago that "for every fiver Celtic spend I'll spend a tenner!" - yet they wonder why they're in debt.

onimo, Sunday, 30 January 2011 12:55 (fifteen years ago)

1348: "The game is still evenly-balanced, I have to say," says former Hibernian manager john Hughes, summarising the action for Sportsound on Radio Scotland 810MW. Apart from the goal United have, of course.

Almost makes me want him back.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Sunday, 30 January 2011 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

David "the famine is over" Healy has gone to his natural home.

onimo, Sunday, 30 January 2011 15:00 (fifteen years ago)

Great goal for Edu there :(

Hampden looks empty.

my Bébé just cares for me (onimo), Sunday, 30 January 2011 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

you can take solace in the fact it wasn't, say, Lafferty or McCulloch. It's pretty grim how shabby this looks, what with the mud bowl field and empty stands.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 30 January 2011 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

I know newspaper ratings don't matter worth a shit but wtf at this from last week:

Rangers beaten 1-0 by Hearts. Daily Record's Rangers player match ratings - 80pts.
Celtic beat Hearts 4-0. Daily Record's Celtic player match ratings - 73pts.

They're going heavy with Jamie Ness being the new Danny Wilson (i.e. young guy talked up until someone spends money on him) - he got 9/10 (along with a two page spread) in their defeat while Celtic's motm by a country mile Biram Kayal got 7/10 in a 4-0 win.

Ness looks ok tbh - but he could easily be the next John Fleck - young guy talked up until no-one spends money on him and everyone notices he's really not that good and he quietly shuffles back into the reserves.

my Bébé just cares for me (onimo), Sunday, 30 January 2011 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

Laptop out of action all day, but you seem to have covered everything today.

Attendance 23k at Hampden the day. 12k less than us v Sheep, see the mankies have been taking their money out of Lloyds and putting it to their team. Was listening to the radio in the car when I nipped out at halftime in the Dundee United v Hibs game and Gordon Smith was getting quite indignant at the very suggestion (backed up with stats) from Richard Gordon that David Healy wasn't really a prolific striker outwith his great run years ago for Northern Lreland (repeatedly referred to as Ireland by the wiggy wonderboy, btw). Insisting that it was just because he'd never had service like he'll get at a proper team like Rangers.

I listened to some rentagub or other (Derek Johnstone, probably) on the radio last week going on about how Rangers were being really shabbily treated by the bank with plenty of agreement and not a single "hang on a second....". I too have never heard a single person point out that they won multiple trophies by buying players they couldn't afford, and this level of debt is the price you pay for it. It was all just "boo hoo that nasty wee Celtic snatching Kris Commons from under our noses, how could the bank let this happen, boo hoo."

ailsa, Sunday, 30 January 2011 17:40 (fifteen years ago)

A booking on Tuesday night against the Sheep (yes, them again.."can we play you every week... oh, what, right, we can? Cheers...") would see Kayal, Brown and Stokes missing the Rangers game. Place your bets...

ailsa, Sunday, 30 January 2011 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

Kayal and brown defo bookings.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 30 January 2011 21:20 (fifteen years ago)

Abdoulaye Faye to Celtic? Conor Sammon to Derby? Chris Maguire to somewhere that isn't Aberdeen? Danny Invincible to the job centre?

No idea what's going on, tbh.

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 13:12 (fifteen years ago)

You forgot the big one. Big Derek Johnstone has moved to Real Radio!

my Bébé just cares for me (onimo), Monday, 31 January 2011 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

James Beattie to Blackpool. LOL.

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

(you have email, btw)

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

Well done to Rangers if they got rid of Beattie. Useless lump of wood from what little I saw of him.

my Bébé just cares for me (onimo), Monday, 31 January 2011 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

I have twice watched games where he's apparently been on since the start when the first time I noticed him was when he was being subbed off.

The lack of lolling over on the transfer rumours thread suggests that his reputation supersedes his actual half-season up here.

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

Zemmama no longer on dis ting, apparently being good enough for Middlesbrough.

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

beattie out healy in is some like for like swapping. once decent striker now about as much use as a chocolate fireguard.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Monday, 31 January 2011 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

got a feeling celtic aren't going to sign anyone. so CB pairing mulgrew and mark wilson.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Monday, 31 January 2011 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

haha, I had forgotten about Healy already and it was only yesterday! Was just contemplating the firepower afforded by Jellyfish and Laughable for our upcoming run of games against them.

xpost, Charlie Mulgrew's a pretty good centre half! Does less damage when he's not having to do all that complicated moving-about left-back stuff.

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

aye admittedly he has looked good but that's been next to rogne who seems to be our best defender now.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Monday, 31 January 2011 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

Him and Wilson managed to not concede any goals as a partnership on Saturday when Aberdeen were attempting to stage a fightback. Don't think Rogne will be out for long, and Dan should be back soon as well.

No-one mention Glenda to me, OK?

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, it's not an ideal centre-half pairing, but for one game, I think it'll be OK. I would like to think we'll have at least Rogne back for Sunday.

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

Rangers insisting that Willie Collum, Craig Thompson, Callum Murray and Ian Brines are not for sale

my Bébé just cares for me (onimo), Monday, 31 January 2011 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

David Tanner on SSN just now suggesting that Rangers might not have time to spend any money they get from the Charlie Adam transfer. No mention of the fact they probably won't be allowed to spend it.

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

BBC Sport's Chris McLaughlin: "Celtic have made another bid to Nottingham Forest to take Kelvin Wilson to Glasgow now. But the Championship club have rejected the latest offer. The bid was 'several hundred thousand pounds'. The central defender has already signed a pre-contract agreement and will make the switch to Celtic in the summer."

Guy's played 2 games since October yet Forest knock back presumably something around half a million for a player who's unlikely to play 6 more games for them. Seems odd to me. Ah well, Big Charlie Mulgrew it is then.

my Bébé just cares for me (onimo), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:05 (fifteen years ago)

'several hundred thousand pounds' sounds like 'fuck all' when you stick it next to the English thread :)

my Bébé just cares for me (onimo), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:06 (fifteen years ago)

Inspired signings from Nosurname - the flute mimer who said "the famine is over" and the guy who spat on Celtic fans.

my Bébé just cares for me (onimo), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, them up front with Vile Laughable and it's almost enough to make you wistful for the days of Nacho Novo.

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

No banks thanks :)

my Bébé just cares for me (onimo), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

lol that was meant to be a strikeout. Wish I was a mod.

my Bébé just cares for me (onimo), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

I would change it for you but I can't actually do that because mod powers are shit I think I'll just leave it and make you look stupid :-)

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

jesus christ.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

Can we tempt you over to the good guys yet? :-)

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

Gers have also signed Kyle Bartley (who I assume will be Arsenal Wunderkid Kyle Bartley in tomorrow's rags) on loan.

my Bébé just cares for me (onimo), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:14 (fifteen years ago)

Andy Webster off to the diet huns on loan

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:18 (fifteen years ago)

Dioufy is a Hun, according to Graham Spiers on Twitter.

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:52 (fifteen years ago)

Edwin Van Der Graaf Generator off to Excelsior.

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 22:10 (fifteen years ago)

as tempting as Tim-hood now looks, I think if I defected one of my brothers would gently rib me forever and the other would possibly literally disown and/or murder me. I'll just have to hone my contrarian get-behind-the-bad-guys skills even more.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Monday, 31 January 2011 22:45 (fifteen years ago)

Good luck with that!

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 22:46 (fifteen years ago)

New addition to the illustrious ranks of Hibs Hair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akpo_Sodje

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

Shows how exciting Hibs Football is that there's even such a thing as Hibs Hair.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

you started the Hibs Hair thing around the time of the DEEKVOLUTION.

In other news, Falkirk not being shut down after agreeing terms to repay their debts to HMRC.

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:04 (fifteen years ago)

Yes, back when we were marginally less shite.

Marginally.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:07 (fifteen years ago)

anyway, you have plenty "oh sod ye" headlines coming for the rest of the season. At least you signed someone today. We have four fullbacks in defence tomorrow night.

ailsa, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:14 (fifteen years ago)

Might have been a bit premature with Webster-to-Hearts, various places reporting he's been freed by Rangers, along with Velicka (presumably to free up some wages to pay Dioufy). Any chance we could nick in for Webster if he's a free agent now then, get a bit of SPL experience for cover at the back since we've given away all our centre halves that aren't broken?

Thought Velicka was on loan to Aberdeen - does Velicka's contract being terminated mean an end to Ricky Foster at Ibrox?

ailsa, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 09:32 (fifteen years ago)

^ am reserving my right for 1st February straw-clutching and knee-jerking, despite the fact that this time last year we signed a zillion players then went out and got horsed off Kilmarnock because no-one knew who anyone else was.

ailsa, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 09:34 (fifteen years ago)

I think coming out of a transfer window with not one single fit centre half, and with three out on loan, is good reason for knee-jerking - especially with the run of games coming up.

my Bébé just cares for me (onimo), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 10:44 (fifteen years ago)

Here's Izaguirre being a bouncer

http://www.celticfc.net/images/IzaguirreGoal.jpg
"Aye you, get tae fuck!"

my Bébé just cares for me (onimo), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 10:45 (fifteen years ago)

Am glad we didn't meet Forest's demands for Kelvin Wilson, don't think punting a guy who's not getting a game into a makeshift defence is the answer, but a loan move for a match-fit and/or experienced guy wouldn't have been the worst idea in the world. Or, y'know, not having all our fit centre halves out on loan apart from the one promising prospect development project guy who we just punted to Swindon.

ailsa, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 12:10 (fifteen years ago)

nice centre-back's header there from wilson.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

Proper Suttonesque goal. Glad to get another three points under the belt, always thought this would be hardest out of the three games against the sheep. At 1-0 at half-time, even with the man advantage, thought we'd do something daft, glad to see us killing it to put the pressure on. Who needs centre halves anyway, we finally put on on (OK, a foetus centre half) and didn't even play him at centre half!

ailsa, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

Also now nicking Mulgruyol from KDS for future use, btw.

ailsa, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:49 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/9383040.stm

(Diouf) told the Rangers website: "I am very happy to join one of the biggest clubs in the world.

People really need to stop calling Rangers "one of the biggest clubs in the world" when no one will buy it for £5m less than an Andy Carroll.

my Bébé just cares for me (onimo), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 12:31 (fifteen years ago)

Possibly the greatest 4 minutes of Craig Burley's commentating career. lol at Scott Booth's pathetic appeal for respect for Wattie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_eOcsSJtKI

ailsa, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:08 (fifteen years ago)

Can't decide if he's slightly less of a dick or just wants to get people talking about his uncompromising opinions 4U.

part time jambo - one night only (onimo), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

"It's as simple as that" count at an alltime low. I prefer his opinion to that off El Hadji Booth in the studio, and even though he's a dick, I'm glad someone in the media has said "Diouf's a disgraceful cnut"

ailsa, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

DEEK LIVES

part time jambo - one night only (onimo), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

WTF, are we allowed to put the ball in other people's nets?

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

Haha, was coming to post something to that effect. First goal for, what, 11 hours of football? BRING TEH DEEKVOLUTION.

ailsa, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:11 (fifteen years ago)

Wotherspoon? No, with his foot!

heart's no in it (onimo), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

Two goals is just overdoing it.

ailsa, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:41 (fifteen years ago)

Wait, we're actually allowed to beat teams as well? WAU MIND = BLOWN

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:42 (fifteen years ago)

Hibs up to the heady heights of the top ten.

I think Hearts are officially out of the race for second. They could probably do next to nothing for the rest of the season and still finish 3rd given how erratic everyone below them is.

heart's no in it (onimo), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:50 (fifteen years ago)

Never got to see the game, but apparently kicking Dioufus is punishable by a yellow card rather than a laurel wreath and a magnum of champagne. Bah.

ailsa, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:52 (fifteen years ago)

Wattie getting a bit upset at some people not taking to his new signing as well as he'd hoped. It's all Scotland's fault apparently, we all know the height of the regard in which Doofus is held in the rest of the world.

Extra lolz in the form of moaning about judicious editing of his post-match comments to not give the full story :-)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/9385793.stm

ailsa, Thursday, 3 February 2011 11:01 (fifteen years ago)

From Evening Times article about Jellyfish:

His transfer was the biggest outlay of the summer for manager Walter Smith, but the £4.5million fee appears to be money well spent so far, with the Croatian bagging five goals already.

Aye, fucking well done, five goals in six months. I suppose if you measure in terms of James Beatties, rather than Anthony Stokeses or Gary Hoopers, then it seems money well spent.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/editor-s-picks/jelavic-maps-out-a-path-to-derby-glory-like-pal-prso-1.1083312

ailsa, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

(Lloyd TSB's money well spent, if we're being particular)

ailsa, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

Fanny Jeffers to Motherwell!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/motherwell/9387116.stm

ailsa, Saturday, 5 February 2011 08:53 (fifteen years ago)

Rangers FC, the very embodiment of brown brogue rectitude...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/feb/06/kevin-mckenna-hadji-diouf-rangers?cat=commentisfree&type=article

cozen, Sunday, 6 February 2011 09:42 (fifteen years ago)

I had to stop reading that halfway through, I was getting so cross with it.

ailsa, Sunday, 6 February 2011 12:03 (fifteen years ago)

starting to play some nice stuff here, thought it might be a rout after the first 5

cozen, Sunday, 6 February 2011 12:36 (fifteen years ago)

The Jamie Ness love-in wankfest isn't going to be abating any time soon.

Decent stuff so far, but I'm still slightly concerned about Majstorovic. Scott Brown on a mission to wind up Doofus. Charlie Mulgrew has been excellent again...

Oh bollocky bollocks.

ailsa, Sunday, 6 February 2011 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

Stupid Fraser Forster.

ailsa, Sunday, 6 February 2011 12:55 (fifteen years ago)

is this real life

cozen, Sunday, 6 February 2011 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

Note to Andy Gray and Richard Keys: men don't all know the offside rule either, if this clown at Ibrox is any indication.

Cannot believe Brown got booked for standing still, ffs.

ailsa, Sunday, 6 February 2011 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

http://a.yfrog.com/img619/2103/80wik.jpg

ailsa, Sunday, 6 February 2011 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2397/monthen.jpg

ailsa, Sunday, 6 February 2011 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

lol.

i managed to sleep through this, was there any reason for brown's taunt besides diouf generally being a pure bawbag?

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 6 February 2011 17:22 (fifteen years ago)

Nah, was just general pwnage.

ailsa, Sunday, 6 February 2011 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

That was pretty much as comprehensive a gubbing as I've seen for a while. Scunnered that we couldn't finish it off, and sadfaced that Ledley will be missing for the replay. But 67% possession when down to ten men is a decent showing.

I think my favourite thing, apart from Brown's general awesomeness, was the realisation that the Allan McGregor world class wonder save that Provan thought was worthy of Goram etc was actually just smacked off his face and he knew fuck all about it.

ailsa, Sunday, 6 February 2011 18:05 (fifteen years ago)

thought celtic played some very nice football at times and only counted one or two actual hoofs up the park in the second half (one of which was to an onside samaras) which is v.v.nice imo

if I managed a team you'd get fined £100 everytime you lifted the ball off the ground ;)

cozen, Sunday, 6 February 2011 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

http://i53.tinypic.com/1q5xsi.gif

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Monday, 7 February 2011 00:28 (fifteen years ago)

I think my favourite thing, apart from Brown's general awesomeness, was the realisation that the Allan McGregor world class wonder save that Provan thought was worthy of Goram etc was actually just smacked off his face and he knew fuck all about it.

Goram? I heard the words "Gordon Banks" and "Pele" in the room I was in!*

*5 blues vs 2 greens, we were like this http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2397/monthen.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/fjeubr.jpg (onimo), Monday, 7 February 2011 11:11 (fifteen years ago)

Several match reports I've read today going with the wonder-save, excellent-reaction thing. Not so much with the smacked-off-his-face-the-flukey-big-git thing.

Fellow Celtic supporting blokey at work spotted standing around with arms outstretched in Broonie pose. Think this is destined to become a thing.

ailsa, Monday, 7 February 2011 11:37 (fifteen years ago)

lol

AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Monday, 7 February 2011 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

Goram? I heard the words "Gordon Banks" and "Pele" in the room I was in!*

Just occurred to me that I'm not sure what's more ludicrous, comparing McGregor to Banks or Sami to Pele?

ailsa, Monday, 7 February 2011 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

btw, has anyone seen a match report which mentions the Sami miles-onside-but-flagged-off incident? It's not in any i've read, and it's not on the highlights. Like so many other honest mistakes, airbrushed from history.

Ledley's yellow (which means he's missing the replay) was a touch on the soft side an' all.

ailsa, Monday, 7 February 2011 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

no reason why the prem fans should have all the fun: give us yr post-92 celtic/etc XIs

cozen, Monday, 7 February 2011 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

mine would probably be pretty 00s.

Boruc, McNamara, Big Dolph, Bobo, Izaguirre (ha, yes, a bit early i know), McGeady, McStay, Petrov, Moravcik, Sutton, Larsson.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Monday, 7 February 2011 21:11 (fifteen years ago)

First stab, subject to change - I've gone for post-1990 so I can get Elliot in, if that's not allowed I'll go for Rieper or Stubbs, probably Stubbs.


Boruc

Agathe Elliot Mjallby Izaguirre (xpost jim otm :) )

Lennon Lambert
McGeady Moravcik

Larsson Sutton

AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Monday, 7 February 2011 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

Actually I might drop Lennie for Petrov. Also a good case for Burley though his new career is tarnishing my memory of him week by week it's as simple as that.

AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Monday, 7 February 2011 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

Boruc, Agathe, Rieper, Valgaeren, Lambert, Lennon, Petrov, Moravcik, diCanio, Larsson, Sutton

(cunningly solving the left-back problem by not having one - would be McKinlay over Mahe, with some consideration for that really good season Lee Naylor had)

subs/just missing out: Broto, Mjallby, Stubbs, Thom, Thompson, McNamara, Cadete, Hartson, Naka

Huns:
Goram, Reyna, Amoruso, Cuellar, Numan, Ferguson, Laudrup, Gascoigne, Albertz, McCoist, Negri

ailsa, Monday, 7 February 2011 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

Nice wee game for Scotland tonight - looked attacking, some decent performances, and a comedy "meant it, honest" goal from James McArthur. Norn Iron were pish, but still, it's a pleasant change from the 4-6-0 pish of last year.

<3 Kris Commons.

ailsa, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 23:09 (fifteen years ago)

I didn't even realize Scotland were playing tonight until I saw the score on the BBC live update page!

treefell, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 23:17 (fifteen years ago)

Hearing that if West Brom appoint Chris Hughton, Colin Calderwood might go to the Hawthorns as his number 2. Obvious "lol number 2" jokes aside, means Hibs get to try again, right? Can they get it wrong again?

ailsa, Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:44 (fifteen years ago)

Yes. Yes, we can.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Thursday, 10 February 2011 08:02 (fifteen years ago)

Jimmy Calderwood? Yogi back in? Gordon Strachan? Gus McPherson?

ailsa, Thursday, 10 February 2011 10:51 (fifteen years ago)

Derek Adams.

AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Thursday, 10 February 2011 10:57 (fifteen years ago)

Oh aye, forgot about him :-) Got his team to a Scottish Cup final last year, so instantly better than any Hibs manager since the glory days of Big Feck.

ailsa, Thursday, 10 February 2011 11:00 (fifteen years ago)

Got his team to a Scottish Cup final last year, so instantly better than any Hibs manager since the glory days of Big Feck.

I was thinking "£free" but yeah that too.

AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Thursday, 10 February 2011 11:10 (fifteen years ago)

Remember this?
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/scottish/smith-relieved-at-settlement-with-scottish-fa-431900.html

Saturday, 13 January 2007...
After three days of wrangling, the SFA and Rangers have agreed a £400,000 compensation package

Rumour hazzit said £400k payment has never appeared anywhere in Rangers' or SFA's accounts.

AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Thursday, 10 February 2011 11:33 (fifteen years ago)

Did we not "joke" about that at the time, back when we were doing the Scottish press' job for them?

ailsa, Thursday, 10 February 2011 12:41 (fifteen years ago)

― AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo)

^^finest

cozen, Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/hibernian/9393498.stm

"I'm thoroughly enjoying my time (at Hibernian)"

Think you're on your own there, mate :-)

ailsa, Thursday, 10 February 2011 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

JUST GO

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Thursday, 10 February 2011 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

Nice bit of spin here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9395012.stm

Wattie has a moan, Lenny is asked for his opinion, says "mibbes aye, mibbes naw (mostly naw)" and voila OLD FIRM MANAGERS THINK HUNS' STADIUM NOT COPING WITH A BIT OF RAIN => CELTIC LEAGUE WIN

ailsa, Friday, 11 February 2011 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

(note revisionism re Rangers' UEFA Cup Final season and a touch of the Wengers about Celtic's)

ailsa, Friday, 11 February 2011 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

St Johnstone v Aberdeen off. Fixture congestion a go go!

ailsa, Saturday, 12 February 2011 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

Decent wee win on a total midden of a pitch. Mark Wilson, who hadn't scored for five years until last week is now equal on goals scored with Kyle Lafferty :-) Another couple of innocuous bookings (including the obligatory goal celebration one which doesn't seem to apply to any other team), another goal wrongly ruled out for offside, same old shit, different day.

ailsa, Sunday, 13 February 2011 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

In the interests of balance, we dodged a red card with Wilson's foul leading to the goal.

I wish Neil Lennon would stop subbing his best players off (Commons twice in a week, Kayal, Stokes).

AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Sunday, 13 February 2011 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

ESPN gave the MOTM award to old ten-bob-bit head. I'm not convinced these guys even watch the games.

ailsa, Sunday, 13 February 2011 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

Not-offside offside decision, plus Gary Hooper making an arse of it and falling over his own feet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzDChJfhfMk

ailsa, Sunday, 13 February 2011 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

Dundee Utd: 11 fouls, 1 booking
Celtic: 5 fouls, 3 bookings

Papers full of how the ref did us a favour by letting one Celtic foul go without a booking. Front page news in the Herald!

It's kind of amazing we only committed five fouls playing a pressing game on a bog of a pitch in the pishing rain.

AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Monday, 14 February 2011 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

Papers full of how the ref did us a favour by letting one Celtic foul go without a booking

Must have missed the article moaning about the same thing happening to Rangers when Madjid Bougherra was booked after about 5 minutes then spent the next 85 kicking lumps out of anything that moved in a green and white shirt. They *did* write an article like that, didn't they? No?

(I do think Wilson was kind of lucky, tbh, but I also think my views on the excessive number of bookings for goal celebrations by Celtic players are fairly widely known, so hurray, one thing sort of evened out for once. Small steps, tiny acorns, etc)

ailsa, Monday, 14 February 2011 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

FFS, has it stopped raining in Dundee yet? How come we got to play on their midden but no-one else is allowed to?

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 22:59 (fifteen years ago)

huh, it was indeed pure pishing down for most of the day today, but not completely abnormally so, and this was the first rain for a while. someone's determined to get summer football on the go.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 23:07 (fifteen years ago)

It'll be that permanent black cloud hanging around over Peter Houston's head.

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 23:09 (fifteen years ago)

Cheerio, Marc Crosas, you're quite entertaining on Twitter, and you scored a good goal against St Midden once. Wish you'd gone out on loan for a bit, but maybe you were never going to make it. Shame, you looked a decent prospect :-(

Just as well we've got Freddie in for catalogue modelling now, eh?

ailsa, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:42 (fifteen years ago)

Bumping this as my bookmark isn't disappearing despite there being no new messages. Presumably a message was deleted (so is ILF modding not recorded in the admin log?).

AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

I deleted a duplicate of my last message for tidying up purposes almost as soon I realised it had gone through twice, but that shouldn't have affected anything?

ailsa, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:46 (fifteen years ago)

But yes, looks like modding actions not being recorded in the admin log. Will find out about that...

(all I've ever done is delete a duplicate message and a broken image link, I'm not going all Nazi on anyone)

ailsa, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:48 (fifteen years ago)

that shouldn't have affected anything?

I would have the first of the duplicate messages bookmarked but the system knows there's another one after it (even though I can't see it) and therefore keeps displaying the thread in my bookmarks list.

AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:24 (fifteen years ago)

Ah, that make sense, sorry, I am stupid. I'm looking into the admin log thing.

ailsa, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:27 (fifteen years ago)

Admin log should be visible for ILF from now on.

ailsa, Friday, 18 February 2011 13:50 (fifteen years ago)

Marc Crosas asked the club to post a thank you letter to the fans on the official website. So cute, and unsurprising really given his genuine-seeming enthusiasm which he tweets all the time (I'm ignoring the lapse into third-person-speak).

Dear All,
After three years in Glasgow it's time to say goodbye. And it's hard. As a football player, all I want is to play and now it's time for me to move to another club and another league. Everything here at Celtic is fantastic, but another club is calling me with the possibility to have the minutes that I need. My job is to play football, and as much as I love this club, I need to play.

Over the last three years I have learnt a lot of things. Now I can say that I’m one of the lucky Bhoys to have played at Paradise in the green and white shirt. Being a part of the Celtic family has been great and Celtic will always remain in my heart.

After my time here I have came to understand why the Celtic supporters are well known all around the world and why this club is so special. There will always be a big space for all my fantastic memories here, the good moments when I was playing and even the bad ones. Marc Crosas is moving to another place, but a big part of his heart will remain here.

I would love to thank everyone who made me feel at home here – the staff, players and fans. I leave a lot of friends here. Real friends! I believe in this team, I believe in this club and I wish that at the end of the season every Celtic fan on earth will be proud of Lenny, Thommo, Johan, Garry and all my team-mates.

Hail! Hail!
Marc

ailsa, Saturday, 19 February 2011 09:03 (fifteen years ago)

Supporting Rangers officially poisonous:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/3421263/Warning-Docs-say-Gers-tattoo-is-bad-for-you.html

A FOOTY fan was left stunned when docs told him his blood had been infected by his RANGERS tattoo.

But the cheeky medics added that he'd have been OK if he'd got a CELTIC one instead.

specialists decided his immune system had reacted to red, blue and black ink in the Ibrox club's crest on his chest. And they claimed he wouldn't have had problems with GREEN ink.

AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Saturday, 19 February 2011 17:43 (fifteen years ago)

we r shite. unadulterated evil should be more effective than this.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 20 February 2011 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

canter

ofwgktaxlrmde (cozen), Sunday, 20 February 2011 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

:-)

So many highlights, I particularly liked the rousing rendition of "let's all do the Broonie" where the entire stadium (except the Rangers fans) all stood with their best "come ON" arms-outstretched actions on.

Merdeyeux, you're right, you really were shite. I couldn't really find much redeeming in your team at all, but I will concede that you do have a better keeper (even if he's a bawbag). Davie Weir is basically now playing like a 40 year old man. David Healy was completely fucking comedy rubbish (nice rendition of "who are ya?" when he came on, haha). You were basically backfooting it all the way through. Celtic, and this has taken some time (remember two months ago we were salvaging points at home to Killie, ffs) are actually playing like a team. Kris Commons is looking like the steal of the season.

ailsa, Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:02 (fifteen years ago)

btw, I wholeheartedly withdraw every negative comment I made upthread about Carles Mulgruyol. Guy's the best centre half in the SPL! (tbf, he's still never a left back...)

ailsa, Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

Come on the 87th minute goals. Never in doubt etc.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

Amazing static St Midden defence helping immensely, tbf.

ailsa, Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

amazingLY static. They are anything but amazing.

ailsa, Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

6 MEN marking him. 6.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Sunday, 20 February 2011 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

Good fun today, couple of high quality goals as well. As bad a performance as I've seen from Rangers since Sir Waltercame back.
http://a.yfrog.com/img640/4186/e9hbg.jpg

AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Sunday, 20 February 2011 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

double sieg heil imo

ofwgktaxlrmde (cozen), Sunday, 20 February 2011 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

"I'm getting too old for this shit"
http://www.scotsman.com/getEdFrontImage.aspx?ImageID=475326

AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Sunday, 20 February 2011 22:29 (fifteen years ago)

love this mad commentator
http://www.101greatgoals.com/hooper-2-commons-earn-celtic-a-comfortable-old-firm-win/84425/

AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Sunday, 20 February 2011 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

Allan McGregor being handed the match ball: *confused face* "the fuck's that?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pbAgK2TCaA

ailsa, Monday, 21 February 2011 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

Still buzzing/hungover from yesterday.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Monday, 21 February 2011 21:15 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/feb/22/football-loans-richard-williams

One leading club is currently paying three-quarters of a former international player's £40,000 a week, with the borrowing club supplying the difference, mostly because their supporters cannot stand the sight of him.

Any guesses :-)

ailsa, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

Press conference in 20 minutes to unveil Coisty as the new Rangers manager when NoSurname goes at the end of the season. Seems an odd time - didn't everyone know it was happening anyway? And what if the surely-soon-to-be-unveiled moonbeamtastic new owners (haha!) want their own guy when they take on the crippling debt one of the biggest clubs in the world (currently valued at £5m less than Andy Carroll)?

ailsa, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

Super Sally profile in Shoot from when he was a Mackem. Strange that a "lifelong Rangers fan" seems to have forgotten all about them in his likes and dislikes, other than a wee moan about losing a game to them.

http://twitpic.com/4396xy/full

Devo!

on... imo (onimo), Thursday, 24 February 2011 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

DALGLISH? MCCOIST OUT.

maybe it's just that we live in a relatively dark cultural age but his tastes seem fairly interesting as footballers go.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 24 February 2011 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

o_O at Devo. Wants to meet the Queen, I see.

Jim White's desperation when it looked like Rangers were going out tonight was hilarious. Real Radio's Big Fat Derek Johnstone was the studio pundit watching on the telly and relaying back to the Sky Sports studio, and he was all positive picture painting "Rangers are going positive! They've taken Davie Weir off!" [subtext: old man who wasn't even supposed to be there is fucked] and Jim White was all "but Derek, I know Rangers are going out, but...is it deserved? Do they look bad? How have the played?" Also the NoSurname thing appears to have taken off nationally, as Walter wasn't granted a surname once.

I'm glad they got through. More coefficient points for us, more games for Davie Weird and the rest of the paper-thin squad to get knackered in, less opportunities for them to play their rearranged games, more chance to point and laugh when "we don't want an extension, we didn't get one in 2008, honest, the league always ends on a Thursday night" comes back to bite them on their knackered arses.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 February 2011 23:16 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, onimo said that on the Europa League thread.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 February 2011 23:18 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljBbMJhEyPc

has this been posted already? cuz, awwww.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 25 February 2011 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

Any Hibs fan here? Just wondering how Victor Palsson's getting on, signed from Liverpool last month.

territory of the magic wand (Chris), Friday, 25 February 2011 13:27 (fifteen years ago)

Aldo of this parish is a Hibee.

on... imo (onimo), Friday, 25 February 2011 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

has this been posted already? cuz, awwww.

Aye, there's a few vids of them doing various Celtic songs, think one might have been posted on the old thread. That one was played on the big screen before the game on Sunday, the lad that went over to volunteer at the school and taught them all the songs was the boy that was murdered in Blantyre a few weeks ago.

If anyone's interested, there's a website been set up in his memory for donations to the charity that runs the school:

http://www.everyclick.com/rememberingreamonngormley

ailsa, Friday, 25 February 2011 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

Looks all right on the ball, but looks like the Dagenham & Redbridge player he is most of the time. I'm sure in the long run he'll be OK, but he seriously needs some football under his belt having never got any at Liverpool.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

Funny this hasn't appeared in the Scottish press despite the video being widely circulated
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/brian-mcnally/Brian-McNally-column-How-moronic-Rangers-fans-shamed-club-with-sick-Celtic-Tommy-Burns-song-in-Lisbon-article707125.html

video here, @ 27 seconds, just after the woman says she's making sure everyone's on their best behaviour.

http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/?t=Adeptos-do-Glasgow-Rangers-em-Portugal-para-enfrentar-Sporting.rtp&headline=20&visual=9&article=419326&tm=27

on... imo (onimo), Saturday, 26 February 2011 17:14 (fifteen years ago)

Saw that this morning. Weird how they subtitled some but not all - didn't the translator think something was a bit amiss?

ailsa, Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:53 (fifteen years ago)

phoned 'well ticket office 15 minutes ago. 40 seats left in the (mixed) phil o'donnell stand. damn. streaming it is.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 February 2011 10:29 (fifteen years ago)

I just read elsewhere that the NOTW mentioned the video of the Rangers fans singing about Tommy Burns (apparently just under an interview with Graeme Dott where he claims that Rangers' songs are just banter) but didn't see fit to print pictures of them and ask if anyone knew who they were, instead printing a picture of a Celtic fan making a monkey gesture at El Haddy Diouf and starting a witchhunt against him.

I'm not defending the monkey-gesture bloke AT ALL, btw, just wondering out loud why other instances of racism and general odiousness (I heard thousands of racist and sectarian fuckers giving it laldy as monkey-boy was doing his individual thing) aren't being given the same treatment.

ailsa, Sunday, 27 February 2011 12:05 (fifteen years ago)

Still, here's a good idea. Let's have two teams in the lesgue not play each other any more (though once Rangers go bust, this won't be an issue anyway).

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2011/02/27/police-call-for-an-end-to-old-firm-derbies-in-bid-to-end-bloody-mayhem-86908-22953466/

ailsa, Sunday, 27 February 2011 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

hun news never going to report that it's always so much worse when they get beat. ah, well, not going to worry about it, new years resolution not to care about what they do or sing and i've pretty much stuck to it. our racist lad is a nob.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 February 2011 12:21 (fifteen years ago)

Right, off to watch Celtic try not to drown in Fir Park. Laters.

ailsa, Sunday, 27 February 2011 12:26 (fifteen years ago)

they'll no drown but they might pick some tatties.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 February 2011 12:30 (fifteen years ago)

Mulgrew reverts to type. what an arse.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 February 2011 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

Lasley kicking the ground = penalty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_FtNFHPJxs

on... imo (onimo), Sunday, 27 February 2011 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

We were still abjectly pish, but that was a joke of a penalty.

Amazing the difference an off-form Scott Brown and a missing Beram Kayal make. That looked like the Celtic that were doing my nut in before New Year. Bah.

ailsa, Sunday, 27 February 2011 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, soft pen but the Well were well worth the 3 points.

Obese Pony-hating Liberal (Billy Dods), Sunday, 27 February 2011 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

Fuck off, when am I meant to get my summer holidays?!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9409976.stm

ailsa, Monday, 28 February 2011 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

This "one-off dispensation to rearrange games to accommodate pre-season friendlies after the season starts" thing's a corker though. Hats off to our 12 foot Hampden lizards.

ailsa, Monday, 28 February 2011 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, and Simon Mensing takes drugs.

ailsa, Monday, 28 February 2011 22:03 (fifteen years ago)

HOW THE FUCK HAVE WE WON 5 IN A ROW?

And bye-bye to the 'B' in R\o/\o/ney

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

SODJEVOLUTION, innit.

ailsa, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 11:20 (fifteen years ago)

this is fuckin AMAZIN so far

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

i really really enjoyed that

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

Shit game, but really really enjoyed seeing Whittaker, Bougherra and Diouf getting what's coming to them. Walter Smith's post-match comments about how having one single solitary shot on target and being shit was better than getting horsed 3-0 and being shit are the kind of crap I'd be really embarrassed to hear from the manager of a team I supported. Also, seriously, who the fuck rolls about feigning injury and wasting time when your team are getting beat, ffs?

ailsa, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 23:34 (fifteen years ago)

one of the worst games of football i've witnessed. but they were horrific and their fans played along with it. glad to beat them.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 3 March 2011 05:17 (fifteen years ago)

battered them without ever looking very convincing

hail hail

el tuomboto (cozen), Thursday, 3 March 2011 07:27 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/9412373.stm

el tuomboto (cozen), Thursday, 3 March 2011 07:28 (fifteen years ago)

All the part-time pundits are out in force today at work. It's hilarious, and a rather useful idiot-detector.

ailsa, Thursday, 3 March 2011 10:09 (fifteen years ago)

did mccoist make a smart remark or something, was really weird how him and lennon were sort of matey then lennon just exploded.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 3 March 2011 10:36 (fifteen years ago)

I assume that's what happened, haven't seen it all yet, but I have it recorded to watch when I get home from work tonight.

But seriously, fuck this "closed doors games" nonsense. Ban away fans from either ground by all means, I'd happily never listen to another word of their filth and even more happily never darken the doors of Ibrox again. It's just ridiculous playing the games behind closed doors - it'll just be an extra 60,000 people in the pub watching instead. And THAT will make everything MUCH better. And El Hadji Diouf will still want to make a tit of himself and Steven Whittaker and Madjid Bougherra will still kick everything that threatens to move past them at speed.

Cup Final's going to be fun :-)

ailsa, Thursday, 3 March 2011 11:02 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, and I'm LOVING all the reviews and articles about Old Firm shame, Old Firm controversy, Old Firm players, lots of bookings, etc. Name fucking names please (yes, BBC, I'm looking at you - three red cards for Rangers players and they lead with a picture of Neil Lennon). Celtic had three players booked, one of who was booked for the heinous crime of allowing Davie Weir to kick him.

One team was disgraceful yesterday. Not The Old Firm.

ailsa, Thursday, 3 March 2011 12:41 (fifteen years ago)

More Shame Game Shite

Gotta laugh that Chick "Mr Impartial" Young's comments tho:

The behaviour of El-Hadji Diouf [Rangers player] was absolutely scandalous.

In the end here is a player who throws his top, and indeed his skins, to the fans as if he were some kind of hero when he had hardly kicked a ball for Rangers.

... the biggest scandal for Chick appears to be that Diouf didn't play well enough

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 March 2011 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

First yellow for Whittaker was way harsh but deserved the red that came minutes later for stupidity alone, and the other 2 reds were unquestionable. With Rangers embarrassing themselves might have been best for Lennon to have stayed well out of it but who knows what was said to provoke him.

Paulo Odd Futre (pandemic), Thursday, 3 March 2011 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

Doesn't take much to provoke Lennon... unfortunately

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 March 2011 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

This some other Lennon you're talking about?

That yellow for Whittaker might have been harsh in itself, but I suspect the ref might have been taking the dozen or so other that preceded it into account. He was lucky to get away with a really late one on Izaguirre not long into the game, tbh.

ailsa, Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

I've only seen 'highlights' so you're probably right about the sequence of events Ailsa.

Paulo Odd Futre (pandemic), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

I've only seen it in real time from the very back of the stand, so they may all have been as innocuous as anything, but it's Steven Whittaker, so I doubt it :-)

ailsa, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

The most 'shameful' thing about this is the first minister apparently has nothing better to do that to arbitrate between two football teams.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:47 (fifteen years ago)

Just heard the news on Radio 2 there, blah blah Old Firm shame, three red cards (no mention who to), blah blah. RANGERS SHAME, right? RANGERS. Still managed to mention Neil Lennon's name first though.

ailsa, Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:03 (fifteen years ago)

did lennon say something racist to diouf?

el tuomboto (cozen), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ all this Sick Filth banning talk in the press. Stop the only show in town and the league's dead. All for banning away fans though - we could spread out a bit and maybe the stadium wouldn't shake so much with all the dancing.
Mad enjoyable game despite lack of football.

on... imo (onimo), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

Cozen, if you believe Rangers fans on twitter, possibly. So, probably not.

ailsa, Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

maybe the stadium wouldn't shake so much with all the dancing

actual panic attack onset last night after the goal :-(

ailsa, Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

Not Lennon, but I saw footage today of a foul on Diouf next to the Celtic bench where there's an audible Glaswegian "well done, kick fuck out of the black bastard" on the Sky feed.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

Moron next to me (not onimo, the guy on the other side) was on about "stupid black bastard" as well. He was a bit scary so I didn't challenge him, but I did glower a bit.

ailsa, Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

Anyway, there are tits in football crowds, stop the presses, drudge sirens.jpg etc. There are racist fuckwits in every ground in the country, I'm not claiming halos for all Celtic fans. But claiming that Celtic were as shameful as Rangers last night is beyond disingenuous. And that we're going to be responsible for getting half the league stopped.

ailsa, Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

Now, let us offer our congratulations and shocked awe to your Clydesdale Bank Manager of the Month... MR COLIN CALDERWOOD. *breaks bottle of champagne over aldo's head*

ailsa, Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

Not excusing or denying racist tits are everywhere myself.

You watch, we'll all be calling for his head again by the time I get back (flight leaves in 90 mins, not back till 21st).

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

There'll be no Scottish football by the time you get back :-(

ailsa, Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

Get your comedy Sally pics here.

ailsa, Thursday, 3 March 2011 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

what

http://img141.imageshack.us/i/dct.mp4/

el tuomboto (cozen), Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

no your ears /don't/ deceive you, that /is/ dick gough getting on his high horse about winding up the opposition

el tuomboto (cozen), Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

o_O

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJGxVXbtaMU

on... imo (onimo), Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

I read about Gough on the internets last night - can't listen at work, but did he *really* say it was probably Neil Lennon's fault that that nice Alan Shearer kicked him in the face?

Radio reporting this morning that it's good news for Neil Lennon that his touchline ban was reduced to four matches. Er, last time I looked that's still a doubling of the initial ban. But never mind, I'm sure he'll get another few games in the stand for snarling at nice cheery cheeky chappy Coisty. Who was in no way antagonistic at all, btw. No sirree.

Still o_O at Scott Brown's booking. So basically our part in the "shame" was Dan being booked for his first tackle after Whittaker had been kicking lumps out of izzy for half an hour (Sky's highlights showed the kick-off then jumped to the 27th minute, so no sign of Whittaker's persistent fouling for the casual fan), Wilson taking one for the team as Rangers pressed for an equaliser in the last minute, and Scott Brown being Scott Brown in the presence of Saint Davie of Saga. SHAME ON US.

ailsa, Friday, 4 March 2011 09:11 (fifteen years ago)

Gough says something like "I've known Lennon since he was a youth footballer and he's always annoyed people and got under their skin. My very good friend Alistair McCoist is a peaceful man wouldn't react like that unless extremely provoked. You have to remember Alan Shearer kicked Lennon in the head and he doesn't just go kicking people in the head for nothing. The FA didn't even punish him for it so what does that tell you?"

a) It tells us you're a cunt, several times over.
b) It tells us Shearer is a cunt.
c) It tells us the FA are cunts for caving to Shearer's threats to quit the England team.
d) It tells us the cunts at BBC Sport Scotland agree with you entirely as everyone else in that studio sat there and swallowed that shite without speaking out once.
e) Something else about cunts.

on... imo (onimo), Friday, 4 March 2011 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

Hoax nailbomb sent to Neil Lennon. Let's hear Gough defend that one.

SUSPECT package addressed to Neil Lennon was today intercepted at a Royal Mail sorting office in Saltcoats. Alert postal staff spotted it and, thankfully, it proved to be a hoax.

It comes just weeks after bullets were sent through the post to the Celtic manager, along with two of the Club’s Irish players, Paddy McCourt and Niall McGinn.

Celtic Chief Executive Peter Lawwell said: “Clearly, this most recent sickening event in a long line of threats to Neil and his family is extremely worrying.

“This demonstrates the intensity and pressure which Neil endures as the Celtic manager. However, he has coped with these issues incredibly well during his short time as manager, showing what a strong character he is.

“Indeed, it is extremely sad that Neil has had to contend with such issues for more than a decade, both as a Celtic player and manager.

“No-one in any walk of life should have to live their life in this way and those responsible should be condemned.

“It goes without saying Neil and his family will continue to receive every support from the Club.

“We know Neil will also have the full backing of all our fans as he and the Club did on Wednesday evening. While these events are very concerning, we would ask that they continue to back the Club in this positive Celtic manner.

“While the authorities and other commentators have taken a close interest in recent football events, we would hope they would give similar attention to also condemning such actions.”

ailsa, Friday, 4 March 2011 17:59 (fifteen years ago)

Top of the league here are Defence Force i.e. the actual Army. They seem to be about the same standard as Hamilton, based on the highlights package I've just watched.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Friday, 4 March 2011 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

Er, what exactly is a "hoax nail bomb"? Did it have nail bomb written on it or something? There must be more to the story cos I'm just left with thinking that a package addressed to Neil Lennon looked suspicious but turned out not to be. I guess if the contents were absolutely nothing then that's suspicious in and of itself because who would send someone nothing?

Paulo Odd Futre (pandemic), Friday, 4 March 2011 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

I'm guessing it wasn't primed to go off, maybe? He's had a bullet already in the post.

ailsa, Friday, 4 March 2011 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry, it doesn't say nailbomb in that story, which was copied from official Celtic site. Had read elsewhere that it was a nailbomb, most sites just reporting hoax explosive device now.

ailsa, Friday, 4 March 2011 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

But yeah, he's only been hospitalised and attacked and given death threats and sent a bullet in the post. People are probably over-reacting. I mean, he brings it on himself, tbh.

ailsa, Friday, 4 March 2011 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

Ach, fuck it. People hate Neil Lennon. The idea that packages addressed to him are subject to suspicion is enough to piss me off. Do you think people root through Walter Smith's mail looking for fake bombs and bullets?

Rangers fans actually singing about how they hate Neil Lennon on Wednesday night. Walter Smith's a tedious hypocritical bastard, but I wouldn't waste my breath singing songs about hating him (which I don't anyway) while my own team were getting beaten in front of me.

ailsa, Friday, 4 March 2011 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

I didn't mean to shrug it off as if it was nothing. I was just a little confused. It seems that there is every reason for Lennon to feel threatened and it is by no means an over reaction to believe that someone may actually target him with an actual explosive device. Sorry if I seemed frivolous.

Paulo Odd Futre (pandemic), Friday, 4 March 2011 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

Nah, it's fine. I'm probably over-reacting. I mean, a suspicious package addressed to a leading footballer manager, which closed a sorting office and caused an evacuation of nearby streets, doesn't even warrant a mention on the BBC news.

In other news, following Wednesday's wee handbags incident:

Lennon's ban is four matches as this is the second time he has been reported for misconduct this term, while McCoist's punishment is standard for a first offence.

Which'll be why Neil Lennon was whacked with a six-matcher, aye?

ailsa, Saturday, 5 March 2011 08:05 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry, McCoist gets a two-match ban.

ailsa, Saturday, 5 March 2011 08:05 (fifteen years ago)

Still no mention of the bomb hoax, but a couple of bored messageboarders making up allegations (which Diouf, the supposed recipient of the abuse, has gone on record as saying never happened - statement made through his agent at the weekend) *does* make the main headlines on the BBC?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-12659077

Couple of really dull games at the weekend, was nigh on asleep before Kris Commons decided to wake me up by near ripping the back off the net. Hamilton are really manky (with the exception of Nigel Piggybank, who looked quite nippy), and I'm glad I won't have to watch them any more for at least a year and a bit. Rangers v St Mirren actually DID send me to sleep.

ailsa, Monday, 7 March 2011 10:56 (fifteen years ago)

Good results for the Rovers at the weekend - 6 points clear at the top of the league for now.
If this keeps up I might actually have to take an interest in the SPL next season!

treefell, Monday, 7 March 2011 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

Hooray!

Must be crap being Ross County, Cowdenbeath or Stirling Albion - imagine your rivals getting docked 25 points and STILL being above you in the league o_O

ailsa, Monday, 7 March 2011 11:51 (fifteen years ago)

but a couple of bored messageboarders making up allegations

Couple of hundred I heard. Every single fucking one of the cunts should be charged with wasting police time by making false allegations against Neil Lennon.

on... imo (onimo), Monday, 7 March 2011 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

I did read someone surmising on twitter that this might backfire on them as it's giving the police a handy catalogue of people who hold a grudge against Neil Lennon to allow them to investigate ongoing death threats as well. No idea if that's true or not, but it's nice karma if it is.

ailsa, Monday, 7 March 2011 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

Some more quality journalism :-(

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/editor-s-picks/support-the-charity-neil-lennon-needs-to-build-on-his-celtic-foundations-1.1089008 (scroll down a bit)

PART TO PLAY says BERT MITCHELL

The vilification of Neil Lennon and the disgraceful and sinister variety of threats that have led to the Celtic manager requiring round-the-clock security for both himself and his family are a sad reflection on our society.

Indefensible and abhorrent they may be, but they are, to a certain extent, a product of Lennon’s snarling presence on the field of play and now in the technical area.

The only way Lennon can play his part in diffusing this sickening situation is to start to apply some managerial distance between himself and the action.

On Saturday outside Parkhead, Lennon touched the statue of the legendary Jock Stein in a show of reverence.

In Stein, he has the perfect template to mould himself in a dignified, managerial likeness that would bring him new-found respect from friend and foe alike, and render these ghoulish gestures obsolete.

Indefensible, but still his own fault? FFS.

ailsa, Monday, 7 March 2011 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, FFS pt 389408302:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/9417556.stm

We consider that the management team at Celtic FC are out of control

^ actual statement from the Rangers Supporters Trust

See this incident in the tunnel at Ibrox? Why did it have to be redressed on Wednesday? Why not during the reasonably peaceful league game midway between the two Cup games?

ailsa, Monday, 7 March 2011 18:52 (fifteen years ago)

We consider that the management team at Celtic FC are out of control
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8593/screenshot20110304at201.png

on... imo (onimo), Monday, 7 March 2011 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

'Old Firm' faultline is once again a political football

Sick of this bollocks.

Celtic ... historically draw their support from the descendants of Irish Catholics who emigrated to Scotland after the Great Famine.

Not historically accurate to claim Irish Catholic immigration to Scotland is entirely (or even predominantly) down to the famine.

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 16:26 (fifteen years ago)

Have there been any summits or calls to end junior football, btw?

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/brawls-halt-football-match-1.1084977

ailsa, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 18:01 (fifteen years ago)

Have there been any summits or calls to end junior football, btw?

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/brawls-halt-football-match-1.1084977

Oi!

scotstvo, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 18:14 (fifteen years ago)

We don't need mounted polis on the pitch during our games, mister!

ailsa, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

Ahem. Look how effectively these horses break up the trouble.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3QgvadRsaw

Bit of a stain on the junior game that one though, granted.

scotstvo, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

"Ephraim Hardcastle" doesn't exist btw. Some other cunt being a cunt (possibly popular Private Eye target Peter McKay).

on... imo (onimo), Thursday, 10 March 2011 12:38 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, someone still wrote it though, regardless of what they're calling themself when they write it.

ailsa, Thursday, 10 March 2011 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

Just like the anonymous internet death-threat-mongers, in fact...

ailsa, Thursday, 10 March 2011 13:03 (fifteen years ago)

Daniel Majstorovic's broken toe means we're back to the scary "one injury away from a Glenda sighting" scenario.

ailsa, Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:14 (fifteen years ago)

Diouf and Boughie hearing on 12 April - add a week or four for appeals then a week or two to enforce then neither of them ever misses another Rangers game. Good job SFA.

on... imo (onimo), Thursday, 10 March 2011 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

Well fucking done, powers that be. Celtic game off today, so rescheduled for Tuesday, meaning postponement of league game on Wednesday.

ailsa, Sunday, 13 March 2011 09:57 (fifteen years ago)

rescheduled for Tuesday

Wednesday, it say here - http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=806

Why does the cup game take precedence over the league?

on... imo (onimo), Sunday, 13 March 2011 12:33 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, it was going to be Tuesday when I posted that this morning, then Sky decided there was too much Champions League on Tuesday so shifted it to Wednesday.

And to answer your question, because the SFA are a bunch of stupid incompetent cnuts. I'm sure everyone who has already arranged time off work, travel and accommodation for the Hibs game on Wednesday is fucking overjoyed that they can come all the way to Glasgow to watch a different game on the fucking telly.

ailsa, Sunday, 13 March 2011 17:49 (fifteen years ago)

In other news, I really quite enjoyed the Dundee Utd v Motherwell game this afternoon.

ailsa, Sunday, 13 March 2011 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

Look everyone, Walter Smith is questioning a refereeing decision! (note he doesn't mention the stonewaller Killie were denied right at the end)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/9423742.stm

ailsa, Monday, 14 March 2011 10:09 (fifteen years ago)

8 team semi-final draw:

Dundee United or Motherwell v Brechin City or St Johnstone
St Mirren or Aberdeen v Inverness CT or Celtic

on... imo (onimo), Monday, 14 March 2011 13:23 (fifteen years ago)

Oh God, the prospect that we might have to watch Aberdeen AGAIN :-( Sick of the sight of them, tbh.

Successful seasons are a pain on my wallet...(note: this does not mean I want us to lose to ICT again)

ailsa, Monday, 14 March 2011 13:54 (fifteen years ago)

Stupid game's not on stupid Sky thanks to stupid Champions League :-(

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 22:31 (fifteen years ago)

That was always going to be the case since it got moved.

Wish I was going to it now. Definitely would be plenty spares going,left it somewhat late now tho.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 23:10 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, I read somewhere that it was Wednesday rather than Tuesday because of TV. Should stop believing stuff I read on the internet. Could have had a ticket, but might have been struggling for a couple of days off work. Stupid SFA.

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 08:38 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, seriously, why would Sky lose the one game that's guaranteed viewers, asking Celtic to cancel a home game (+ attendant hospitality, etc) into the bargain to accommodate it? Could it not have been played next week, that would still leave time for a replay if

Also this is bugging me a bit:

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/editor-s-picks/celtic-s-fixture-fear-after-cup-tie-ko-1.1090321

They were each due to collect £85,000 from Sky, who were to show the tie. As the re-arranged date clashes with coverage of the Champions League matches, the rules do not allow it to be shown live. So the £170,000 will be added to the pot which is shared between all eight clubs which participated in the cup quarter- finals.

So Sky have paid £170,000 to NOT show a game? WTF? And because Caley Thistle didn't put their brollies up, Brechin City get some more money and we lose out?

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

+ necessary

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

Sky aren't allowed to show the game.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 09:48 (fifteen years ago)

And cup

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 09:48 (fifteen years ago)

Games take precedence over league games under sfa rules iirc

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 09:49 (fifteen years ago)

It's still shitty and ridiculous. Is there a reason why today became the first available date to play the game when, y'know, we already had a game on? And the semi-finals aren't for another month?

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 10:18 (fifteen years ago)

On c67 outside UK and RoI so potential of shite interweb stream.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 10:20 (fifteen years ago)

It became first available date because as I said cup takes precedence.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 10:21 (fifteen years ago)

but WHY? WHY? Why aren't weekend league games being cancelled to accommodate the other replays which are being played next FREE AVAILABLE midweek? The Motherwell - Dundee United game's not for a fortnight?!

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 10:24 (fifteen years ago)

(I realise you don't know the answer to this, I'm just having a rant)

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 10:24 (fifteen years ago)

Also, why are Sky still paying money for a game they can't show, and why as a result are other people whose game wasn't even televised getting OUR MONEY?

(I am happy to concede that the Evening Times don't know wtf they're talking about, btw)

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 10:46 (fifteen years ago)

You going to the Cup Final, Jim?

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

Juarez --- Loovens --- Mulgrew

Does Neil Lennon like losing cup games to Highlanders or something? /negativity

Sami had one of his three good performances this season against ICT so fingers crossed.

on... imo (onimo), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

lol Channel 67 is fucking rubbish. I'm watching Jim Craig reading a Celtic View trying to work out the teams.

Apparently this week's View has a poster of Neil Lennon with the four Irish players (Stokes, McCourt, McGinn, Murphy - bet you forgot him) in front of a big tri-colour back drop, despite only 3 of them being from the Republic of Ireland.

on... imo (onimo), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 19:48 (fifteen years ago)

2 of them. and i'm sure they're no bothered.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

Aye, two, sorry - meant to type "not being".

I don't expect the Celtic View to start printing big red hands in the centre spread but these guys are Norn Iron internationals and they're being electronically draped in another country's flag.

on... imo (onimo), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

Sami's got his ten-bob-bit head on.

on... imo (onimo), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

niall mcginn drinks in the brazen so i'm not sure how offended he would be to be associated with the flag of the irish republic.

Izaguirre looks great as usual. Kayal looks maybe injured ;_; would be a disaster.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

jesus, sammy.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

oh look Loovens fucked up shocker

on... imo (onimo), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

lennon's choices of line-ups is often a bit gordon strachan head-scratching. i would never play loovens ahead of rogne, i would never play samaras ahead of stokes, well not never but not against fucking inverness.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

To be fair to Sami he only scores against Inverness and Rangers.

I wouldn't play Loovens ahead of me.

on... imo (onimo), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

that was comedy. james forrest getting announced as the scorer five minutes after ledley scored.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

Channel 67 looking for people to text them the scorer lol (xpost!)

I've got the commentary from an Old Firm game over the top of this :/

on... imo (onimo), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:19 (fifteen years ago)

I was watching in the pub on a dodgy stream piped through the pub telly. Texted my brother after the second goal to see who scored (he was listening to the radio) and he texted back with "commentators don't know if it's Ledley or Forrest. Obv couldn't be arsed driving to Inverness and watching on same stream as you").

I would mostly play Sami ahead of Stokes. He also scores against Kilmarnock, but somehow Neil Lennon's not noticed this and keeps not playing him against them.

And who could forget Daryl Murphy?! Managed the crossbar challenge even after being goosed by Scott Brown in a mankini! Stuff legends are made of! (if you don't care about stuff like being good at football and that)

ailsa, Thursday, 17 March 2011 09:05 (fourteen years ago)

Playing sami ahead of Stokes when Stokes is our top scorer is heavy challops.

N.b. he might no longer be but he's there or thereabouts.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 March 2011 10:32 (fourteen years ago)

I'm with Jim on that one. Sami's occasional skelping of Rangers doesn't make up for seasons and seasons of infuriating fucking around and bad decision making. Still, he's no Daryl Murphy.

on... imo (onimo), Thursday, 17 March 2011 10:58 (fourteen years ago)

Infuriating fucking around and bad decision making got Aiden McGeady a £9m move to Russia, it's the Celtic way! I just like Sami better, but could pretty much go never having to watch him do that huge "get the ball, turn round and go the long way round via the halfway line to get five yards further up than where I started and then pick the wrong pass" thing ever again.

Ach, I'm all about the challops. Healthy debate, and all that. I do like Sami though, even when he's rubbish. His ineffectiveness is less annoying (to me) than Stokes' thing of having a shot from miles out at the merest glimpse of goal on the off-chance he might score another wonder goal. (that's a bit challopy-for-challops-sake as well, tbh, I like Stokes a lot better than I thought I would when I was mumping about not wanting to sign him)

ailsa, Thursday, 17 March 2011 14:14 (fourteen years ago)

You going to the Cup Final, Jim?

― ailsa

just read this the now. aye.

crosas on twitter:

"I've always been a big PSV fan...well by always I mean since this afternoon."

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 March 2011 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

Yay cup final! We have really shit seats, so near the pitch I might have to construct a periscope to see the other side :-(

ailsa, Thursday, 17 March 2011 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

no sure where i'm sitting as my mate purchased them, east stand/celtic end is all i know. at the semi against aberdeen i had what i would construe as alright seats for hampden in terms of view (north stand, quite far back but not right at the back, nearer to east stand, and consequently further away from the set of goals that were scored into than the other) and despite the fact that we were standing it was still rotten. decent atmosphere though, and if we have the upper-hand on sunday i can envisage it being even better.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 March 2011 21:19 (fourteen years ago)

celtic vs hibs rescheduled to wednesday the 6th april 19.45.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 March 2011 21:21 (fourteen years ago)

Oh FFS, seriously, stop making me rearrange stuff AGAIN. I fecking HATE the SPL/SFA and all who sail in her. And their stupid national stadium.

We were in the East Stand kind of diagonally up from the corner flag that's nearest the north stand, miles back, for the semi final. Couldn't see fuck all because of (1) being miles away, (2) Hampden being shit, (3) annoying woman in the row in front who kept going for a pie/pish/wander every five minutes thereby making her entire row stand up and block our view to let her out/in and (4) being under a huge Celtic shirt-shaped banner/flag thingie for loads of the second half.

Basically, I hate fun. Give me a seat where I can see wtf's going on anywhere on the pitch and I'm happy.

Was five rows from the front at the last CIS Cup Final we got to. Let me tell you, you don't want to look at Sasa Papac from that close range. Urgh. And now we'll be even nearer :-( Actual literally spitting distance from Doofus :-(

ailsa, Friday, 18 March 2011 07:39 (fourteen years ago)

btw, was having a wee moan last night about Terry Butcher's comments after the cup tie on Wednesday.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/i/inverness_ct/9427541.stm

Basically: Celtic got a free kick we wouldn't have got. Celtic player wasn't sent off but the referee would have sent our guy off in similar circumstances? Fans influencing the referee? Thinks his players are being booked for nothing?

That's pretty much the kind of shit that would get a Tim called paranoid! In fact, it's pretty much the shit that copped Gary Hooper a trip to Hampden to get his knuckles rapped and a suspended fine.

Also, hooray, I finally have an answer to "when was the last time a refereeing mistake had a negative effect on the outcome of a game for Rangers?" Foreign refs, eh, you wouldn't get that happening in the SPL...

ailsa, Friday, 18 March 2011 07:45 (fourteen years ago)

i'm drinking 8 beers tonight so i can sleep. also so when i drink my 6 beers before the game tomorrow i'll be totally fucked.

gtf alec salmond.

but don't fear, i have no wife to beat.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 March 2011 01:04 (fourteen years ago)

loovens tho.

jesus.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 March 2011 01:04 (fourteen years ago)

Enough to drive you to major alkiedom :-(

I am shiting nervous about this one. No idea why - we're better than them and they are missing key players. If the Loovens thing is true, guessing team will be:

Forster
Wilson Loovens Mulgrew Izzy
Commons Ledley Kayal Broonie
Samaras Hooper

Which is what I'd choose apart from I'd rather have Rogne in alongside Mulgrew. I'd rather have any variety of "my granny, and she'd been dead for 33 years!" type figures ahead of Loovens. Feck it, I'd rather put Mark Wilson at centre half and Juarez at right back rather than Loovens. Though I'm trying to remain positive about the fact that Loovens was a key part of a defence kept a clean sheet in the last cup final against the forces of fuddishness alongside fecking Darren O'Dea.

Rangers team surely picks itself as they only have about 11 fit players (well 10 and Davie Weir). Unless they unleash some other wunderkind from the reserves for an instant 9/10 rating in the redtops tomorrow and a touted move to a Big Four team.

ailsa, Sunday, 20 March 2011 12:15 (fourteen years ago)

Fuck.

ailsa, Sunday, 20 March 2011 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

Aye,pish.bit like the display against motherwell few weeks back.

Ah well,just the league cup. Hope Izaguirre's not too badly injured.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 20 March 2011 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

Did he get hurt?

ailsa, Sunday, 20 March 2011 20:42 (fourteen years ago)

Thought Wilson, Mulgrew, Kayal and Ledley were decent. Commons, Sami and Hooper weren't at the races at all. Couple of saves from Forster might be worth ffwding through the rest of the "highlights" to see again.

ailsa, Sunday, 20 March 2011 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

did hooper touch the ball? besides the last min shot obv

nultimate fighting champ (cozen), Sunday, 20 March 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

Sami gets minor plus points for putting together a couple of decent chances (and for his part in the goal), but he's not a partner for Hooper at all.

ailsa, Sunday, 20 March 2011 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

Hooper was fecking mince today though.

Major lolz at the collective intake of breath the first time the ball went towards Loovens. Seriously, 20,000 simultaneous intakes of breath :-)

To be fair to Glenda, he did alright when he came on.

ailsa, Sunday, 20 March 2011 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

Saw the highlights last night (nice to see BBC showcasing the first silverware of the season with a whole 10 minutes of highlights, eh?), didn't realise Izaguirre was limping when he went off. Still, international week and a one-game suspension after it (that's right for a straight red, aye?) should maybe see him fit when he comes back.

Worrying thought: Charlie Mulgrew back at leftback and Loovens in the middle to cover Izzy's suspension :-( Would rather put Ledley at LB, tbh.

ailsa, Monday, 21 March 2011 09:23 (fourteen years ago)

Mark Wilson on the left, Juarez or a returning Hinkel on the right. Superglue on Big Dan's toe. Facelift on Johann Mjallby. Sorted.

I was really rude to a friend who called to talk to me about the game last night. I better make amends once I'm fully over the grumpiness.

you can be happy also (onimo), Monday, 21 March 2011 11:48 (fourteen years ago)

Superglue on Big Dan's toe. Facelift on Johann Mjallby. Sorted.

Was that not your plan for yesterday anyway :-)

I was a bit rude to my mum on the phone last night. You'd think after years of being my mum that she would know not to expect me to be on top chirpy form after a cup final defeat.

ailsa, Monday, 21 March 2011 12:04 (fourteen years ago)

Some more dignified commenting about referees by Sir Walter of Nosurname, complete with some tiresome innuendo:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/rangers/rangers-manager-critical-of-referee-thomson-after-dangerous-decision-to-rescind-penalty-1.1091500

ailsa, Monday, 21 March 2011 22:17 (fourteen years ago)

fuck a 6pm kick off

you can be happy also (onimo), Friday, 25 March 2011 12:13 (fourteen years ago)

^ this (actually works out not too bad for me as I finish work at 4.30 so can get to pub easy enough for 6, and be done early enough to sleep it off before work the next day, but still, in principle, fuck it)

ailsa, Friday, 25 March 2011 12:17 (fourteen years ago)

I have a lecture at 6pm every Tuesday meaning I'll miss the entire game. Bastards.

you can be happy also (onimo), Friday, 25 March 2011 12:22 (fourteen years ago)

:-(

I generally don't approve of mucking around with fixtures, and as a former frequent traveller to away games, making a game that would ordinarily be a quick drive after work into a whole afternoon off work in order to avoid three rush hours (Glasgow, Stirling, Perth) is just mean and stupid.

ailsa, Friday, 25 March 2011 12:45 (fourteen years ago)

PS you should fake a violent coughing fit at college, so annoying that they have to send you home. I will then be waiting round the corner with a nice cooling medicinal beer to soothe this terrible sore throat you have.

(I am bad woman, and I know you won't do this, but it's what I'd do, because I have bad prioritisation skills when it comes to real life)

ailsa, Friday, 25 March 2011 12:47 (fourteen years ago)

how do you guys rate hooper then? i am musing on a players qpr should sign this summer list and wondering if he still merits inclusion for the 4th year running

r|t|c, Friday, 25 March 2011 13:00 (fourteen years ago)

Fit and on form Hooper = best striker at Celtic in years.

you can be happy also (onimo), Friday, 25 March 2011 13:03 (fourteen years ago)

The half fit off form Hooper we've had these past few weeks has been a passenger, and not helped by having to play with whatever the fuck Georgios Samaras is supposed to be (I know it's not "strike partner" as that would involve knowing what being a number 9 means).

you can be happy also (onimo), Friday, 25 March 2011 13:05 (fourteen years ago)

He's not a lone striker, and you're as well being a lone striker if you're playing with Sami (who I mostly like, tbh, but not as a partner for Hooper). When playing with Anthony Stokes, it works. When he's not, it mostly doesn't. I like him though.

Somebody tell me about Craig McKail-Smith. He's a name I know from seeing it pop up on Soccer Saturday vidiprinter from time to time (which suggests he scores goals from time to time), but now he's getting a gig against Brazil for us.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/9431234.stm

ailsa, Friday, 25 March 2011 13:24 (fourteen years ago)

quite hard to accurately gauge any of those peterborough lads after their atrocious season in the champ. the once similarly rated george boyd and to a lesser extent aaron maclean have also looked the business in league one under ferg jnr but not so much at any other time.

mackail-smith is one of those hustling bustling lost-cause chasers with a good finish i think.

r|t|c, Friday, 25 March 2011 14:36 (fourteen years ago)

always assumed big cheating oaf grant holt was a scot, any word you of you lot approaching him as well?

r|t|c, Friday, 25 March 2011 14:38 (fourteen years ago)

I was about to say we've already had him, but realised I was confusing him with useless big lump Gary Holt.

ailsa, Friday, 25 March 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

Broonie limps off after 64 minutes of a cup final, goes to Spain to play golf with these cunts
http://thecelticblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/scott-brown-golf.jpg
then is to start in a pointless friendly against Brazil. (also wtf at that get up)
Naismith played 120 minutes of the cup final then withdrew from the Scotland game with an injury.

you can be happy also (onimo), Saturday, 26 March 2011 13:01 (fourteen years ago)

Pish. Charlie Adam is rubbish at taking corners. Don Cowie has Scotland caps.

ailsa, Sunday, 27 March 2011 15:12 (fourteen years ago)

Says it all when we bring on a Peterborough player.

I said Omorotic, not homo-erotic (aldo), Sunday, 27 March 2011 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

Kayal scored a decent headed winner last night for Israel. i didn't watch the scotland game. i was working, but i doubt i'd have watched it if i wasnt. find it very hard to care. glad that kris commons and scott brown have emerged from it intact.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 March 2011 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

Kris Commons wasn't on for very long, and seemed to just come on in order to stand next to Barry Bannan at a free kick and make him not look like a such a short-arse on his own. I have an excellent photo from the cup final on my camera of the teams standing about just after full-time and Kris Commons is standing between Rogne and Sami and he looks positively Lilliputian.

Mark Wilson also intact by not even getting off the bench.

ailsa, Sunday, 27 March 2011 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

We had a spell of about 15 minutes in the second half when we looked half decent, apart from that decidedly meh.

I said Omorotic, not homo-erotic (aldo), Sunday, 27 March 2011 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

Shaun Maloney is temporarily fit and is training with the first team!

death, taxes and (onimo), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 12:04 (fourteen years ago)

Won't last :-(

ailsa, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 12:25 (fourteen years ago)

Being temporarily fit won't last? You mean he'll become permanently fit?

death, taxes and (onimo), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 12:38 (fourteen years ago)

Ha, yes, that's EXACTLY what I meant, honest :)

ailsa, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 13:18 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/mar/29/german-teenager-banana-brazil?CMP=twt_gu

The mystery of who tossed a banana onto the field during Sunday's friendly meeting between Brazil and Scotland has been solved, with confirmation that the object was thrown by a German tourist with no racist intent.

Maybe now the SFA can get on with looking at the actually blatant repeated bigotry that we see every week.

death, taxes and (onimo), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 15:49 (fourteen years ago)

Damage done though, innit? Banana thrown + Neymar deciding immediately that getting booed for being a diving wee cnut with a silly haircut is racist (how come not booing all the other Brazilians, eh?) and something he doesn't want to talk about (yet talks about it anyway every time someone shoves a mic under his nose).

Compare and contrast with Kenny MacAskill (famed for getting arrested for being pished at the football, btw) says last Sunday's league cup final was a marvellous spectacle and a jolly old showpiece and something we should all be proud of, etc. Presume fingers in ears for the renditions of Famine Song, Billy Boys, No Pope of Rome, etc, yet hooray, the Old Firm Problem is over!

(Another hoax bomb addressed to Neil Lennon intercepted in the post this week, btw)

ailsa, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 17:01 (fourteen years ago)

Right, whose heart is bleeding for poor Tony Mowbray then?

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/celtic/239725-celtic-prevented-mowbray-from-taking-up-other-posts/

ailsa, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

What possible reason did the German teenager have for throwing a banana at his other than racism? Worried about his potassium levels?

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

You've taken a banana to the game for half-time peckishness. In a moment of daft emotion you throw the fruit towards the pitch before thinking, "Hang on, that probably wasn't the best idea..."

Always thought it was weird that a racist would be in the crowd at a Brazil game. In any case I suspect racists don't think of the Brazil team as proper black people.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

Americans on ILX do.

I said Omorotic, not homo-erotic (aldo), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

ha

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

lol

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 07:04 (fourteen years ago)

Mixu's away to be the Finland national manager.

ailsa, Thursday, 31 March 2011 12:36 (fourteen years ago)

Bye Mixu!

I wonder if that'll be the end of Killie's new footballing ethos - will they go back to kicking everything that moves, preferably if it isn't round. I think I might have called them the best footballing team in the league somewhere early in the season.

death, taxes and (onimo), Thursday, 31 March 2011 13:07 (fourteen years ago)

Depends who takes over, I guess. And if they get to keep Eremenko. Having an actual footballer has done them wonders, one of the best performances I've seen this season was their dismantling of Hearts at Swinecastle.

ailsa, Thursday, 31 March 2011 13:11 (fourteen years ago)

This image is kind of unnerving, especially if you scroll the page

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/polopoly_fs/13119319-1.1093801!image/3204389673.JPG_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/3204389673.JPG

falling into Murray wwwwaaaaaaahhhhh

death, taxes and (onimo), Thursday, 31 March 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

WAH NIGHTMARES!

ailsa, Thursday, 31 March 2011 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/12932160.stm

The amount Rangers owe to creditors due within the next year has increased by nearly £3.5m to £29m, according to the Scottish champions' half-yearly report.

Most of that is believed to be owed to Lloyds Banking Group, but Rangers insist that their net debt has fallen while refusing to say by how much.

The club suffered a drop in pre-tax profit from £13m to £9m during the six months to 31 December.

Turnover for the six-month period decreased by £4.1m to £33.7m.

Rangers say that was because of fewer home games for the Glasgow club in the Scottish Premier League.

There was also a 4.9% decline in the number of season tickets sold, together with a reduction in sponsorship income.

Reduced profit, turnover, sales and sponsorship *and* reduced (by some unspecified amount) debt? Happy 1st April Teddy Bears fans.

Still there's always the Whyte Knight who has promised £25m in player investment in the next five years - with that kind of money they'd have been able to buy Beattie and Jelavic last summer. Um...

death, taxes and (onimo), Friday, 1 April 2011 09:57 (fourteen years ago)

would celtic fans want rangers to go bust? or would they find themselves staring into a void of infinite and meaningless scottish titles

Packie Bonner (Local Garda), Friday, 1 April 2011 12:26 (fourteen years ago)

I think we'd be more likely to be staring into the void of not having a viable league for the size of the club a la Cardiff, Wrexham and Swansea.

death, taxes and (onimo), Friday, 1 April 2011 14:04 (fourteen years ago)

would probably prompt a lot of talk of them joining the prem

Packie Bonner (Local Garda), Friday, 1 April 2011 15:28 (fourteen years ago)

It's not gonna happen anyway - the half-released interim results and the takeover talk and everything else adds up to the SFA being able to somehow say that Rangers are still a solvent organisation and apply for a UEFA licence for them to compete in CL/Europa next year to guarantee that income to prevent them going under to enable them to lather, rinse and repeat. Or something.

This guy's well worth a read - http://rangerstaxcase.com/

Possibly a Celtic fan with an axe to grind but he seems to know a lot about what is going on there.

death, taxes and (onimo), Friday, 1 April 2011 15:35 (fourteen years ago)

This kind of shit would put me off if I was Mr Whyte.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51975000/jpg/_51975903_banners.jpg

Not as much as the potential £50m tax bill would put me off, but still.

death, taxes and (onimo), Saturday, 2 April 2011 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

lol @ keeper stepping aside to show Goodwillie the entire goal - best viewed around the 45 second mark. P sure the commentator calls him a cunt as the ball goes in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzBLn67ecyY

death, taxes and (onimo), Saturday, 2 April 2011 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

Govt summit to follow? *holds breath*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-YpTRXI3Ns

death, taxes and (onimo), Sunday, 3 April 2011 10:28 (fourteen years ago)

Glenn Gibbons finally puts into print the question several non-deluded Celtic fans have been asking for ages - where the fuck is David Murray and why are the bank copping the flak for all this?

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sport/Glenn-Gibbons-Deluded-Rangers-fans.6744625.jp?articlepage=1

ailsa, Monday, 4 April 2011 13:59 (fourteen years ago)

Also, this is comedy gold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4G-3Vbv7X4

ailsa, Monday, 4 April 2011 14:10 (fourteen years ago)

My particular favourite is right at the end when Chick, after being called incompetent for failing to provide a quote for a silent acknowledgement from Alistair Johnston*, is getting increasingly frustrated by Traynor twisting everything to make it look like Young is painting an unnecessarily bad picture of Johnston. He strikes out at Traynor in response, accusing him of being a Rangers puppet. Traynor doesn't deny this, he just asks Chick if he's jealous. LOL REALLY?

* ignoring the question of why, if Johnston *did* nod when asked if Rangers could go into administration, did none of the attendant hacks pursue this further?

ailsa, Monday, 4 April 2011 14:15 (fourteen years ago)

Brilliantlt effective police summit about scheduling of derby games sees Rangers v Celtic scheduled for, um, 12.30 on Easter Sunday. No-one getting pished because they've got the Monday off work then, aye? Also, I seem to recall there being quite the thing about not scheduling derby games on bank holiday weekends and not at all because that date would have seen Bougherra suspended and Scott Brown not, rather than the way it actually ended up in the past:

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/spl-old-firm-date-chaos-for-rangers-v-celtic-ibrox-crunch-1.979000

ailsa, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)

Top of the league with the games in hand all dispensed with. Happy days :-) We did look worryingly directionaless when Kayal went off and Brown went back into the middle though (despite winning of penalty, obv).

I don't think I've done enough I LOVE BERAM KAYAL eulogising on this thread. I do. I love him. I actually say "I love him" out loud about five times a game now. I feel Paddy's place in my heart has been gazumped.

btw, aldo, your mob were giving it laldy with "We Are The People" tonight. I expect a fair display of hunnery from most away supporters, but I was surprised to hear it from them.

ailsa, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 22:27 (fourteen years ago)

Theyve been doing it all the time at cp and ibrox last few years.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 22:28 (fourteen years ago)

At Ibrox? Do they get into "naw yer no', WE'RE the people, right?" fights?

ailsa, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 22:35 (fourteen years ago)

I think they probably started it at ibrox as a wind-up,then realised it would also work as a wind-up at Parkhead. Couldnae care less tbh.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 22:42 (fourteen years ago)

You kind of want to look at yourself if you're fronting with the WATP shite for laughs, imo. I'd be too embarrassed, wind-up or no. Then again, I was called a Hun off three Celtic fans tonight for glowering and shaking my head at their "banter", so maybe I'm not the best judge of these things up here on my high horse.

ailsa, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 22:45 (fourteen years ago)

I don't even know what it means to be honest. Life's too short to bother thinking about these things.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 22:51 (fourteen years ago)

Just watched the BBC highlights. Was convinced at the game that the Hibs penalty and Celtic's second penalty were both correct decisions. Wavering a little on both now.

ailsa, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 23:19 (fourteen years ago)

I've lifted my self-imposed ban on reading the Record, since their coverage of the Decline and Fall of the House of Murray is hilarious.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2011/04/07/rangers-to-be-hit-with-three-match-european-ban-over-sectarian-chanting-86908-23043583/

The club will also question UEFA over whether or not they act on reports submitted by people other than official delegates and police but stress they won't be attempting to say they aren't tracked around Europe by morons.

This deranged and also dangerous element have refused to believe UEFA were prepared to take more serious action but they are now about to experience that reality.

Now, how come UEFA have ears but the SFA don't, eh? And, um, aren't they tracked around Scotland by these deranged and dangerous morons as well? And don't they go to Ibrox every week as well? (Also loving the implication that only officials can complain about being offended* when the full Rangers songbook can be heard by anyone with a TV or a radio - FFS their own fans post clips on YouTube where anyone can go and take offence)

* presumably by extension this means that Kenny McAskill's love of happy party atmosphere and gala occasion doesn't count then

ailsa, Thursday, 7 April 2011 10:30 (fourteen years ago)

Rangers seem to be saying they've done all they can to stop sectarian chanting so UEFA should leave them alone. They're not quite getting that if they've done all they can and the chanting hasn't stopped then someone else needs to do something. Is it their position that nothing more should be done and therefore we all have to keep listening to that shite?

death, taxes and (onimo), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (fourteen years ago)

Kenny McAskill's love of happy party atmosphere

Thanks for planting a Russ Abbot song in my head :(

death, taxes and (onimo), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:23 (fourteen years ago)

You're welcome.

Rangers' defence also appears to include "leave us alone, it's not just us" which is like "aye, so I murdered someone, so did someone else, therefore don't punish me for it because it's a thing some other people do as well".

"We do, however, believe that it is absurd to think that only Rangers supporters sing offensive or sectarian songs. That is patently not the case and we are left to conclude that there is a disproportionate focus on Rangers. It has also become clear there are people who have been determined to undermine our Club at any cost and have constantly lobbied UEFA and other organisations to take action against Rangers."

Last sentence sounds a bit paranoid an' all. And no-one lobbied any organisations to accuse Neil Lennon of shouting racist slurs at El Hasbeen Diouf, did they? I for one would be quite happy to see, say, Killie and Hearts and Muddywell fined for sectarian singing an' all if the SFA ever grew a pair (of ears).

ailsa, Friday, 8 April 2011 09:31 (fourteen years ago)

Hold on, so they were fined by UEFA previously after their games against Villarreal, Osasuna and Urinary Tract? What happened after their UEFA Cup final assualt on the city and police force of Manchester?

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:35 (fourteen years ago)

Was outside the stadium, therefore outwith remit of UEFA (see also pishing on statues in Barcelona)

ailsa, Friday, 8 April 2011 09:37 (fourteen years ago)

Ah, clever morons!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:38 (fourteen years ago)

Stokesy's dad in trouble again:

http://news.stv.tv/scotland/west-central/242469-father-of-celtic-player-arrested-on-firearms-charges/

ailsa, Friday, 8 April 2011 12:44 (fourteen years ago)

After Delboy McInnes getting launched into some major integrity-questioning on Radio Scotland this afternoon, Duberry's at it on Twitter as well. Expect strikes and fines and summits and that anytime soon, obv.

Original_Dubes Michael Duberry
I have never seen such a blatant offside! I hope the officials that did our game are embarrassed by there performance today! #F*ckingRubbish
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Original_Dubes Michael Duberry
I f*cking hate refs!!! #RealTalk
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ailsa, Saturday, 9 April 2011 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

Am not talking about the match, because a team so guff that the stadium MOTM award is given to a guy who only played for 20 minutes, and when Glenn Loovens is the answer to the question "who did least wrong throughout the 90 minutes?", is not worth commenting on :-( Was like watching a shitey Strachan team. Thank fuck the buds missed a total sitter right at the end.

Congrats to Livi, first team to clinch a league title in Scotland.

ailsa, Saturday, 9 April 2011 21:07 (fourteen years ago)

how many spl players are as good or better than abou diaby?

thinking scott brown, izaguirre

also, how is former new rooney john fleck doing?

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 April 2011 21:49 (fourteen years ago)

Fleck's been replaced by Gregg Wylde this week as the new saviour of Scottish football. Last month it was Jamie Ness. So, um, not that good. Everyone's forgotten about him. Even Walter Smith. I think he played one game recently without anyone noticing he was even there.

SPL actual good players: the two you said, Beram Kayal (who i love, btw, I might mention this a lot), Paddy McCourt (for about five seconds every six weeks), Gary Hooper, probably Joe Ledley. Maybe Steven Davis. Shaun Maloney during those rare moments when he isn't broken.

ailsa, Saturday, 9 April 2011 21:59 (fourteen years ago)

Is hard to tell. I wouldn't have pegged Charlie Adam as a future Prem POTY candidate when he was plugging away at St Mirren.

ailsa, Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:00 (fourteen years ago)

thanks ailsa

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:02 (fourteen years ago)

Liam Miller has delusions of adequacy.

I said Omorotic, not homo-erotic (aldo), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:05 (fourteen years ago)

delusions being the correct word. Waste of a potentially good player, that.

ailsa, Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:07 (fourteen years ago)

Oh aye, he's turned out mince.

I said Omorotic, not homo-erotic (aldo), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:09 (fourteen years ago)

Talking of mince, I had to teach my phone dictionary the word "mincer" today to describe St Midden to a mate in comparison to Celtic. I'm glad I taught it "pish" "pishy" and "pishiest" a couple of years back. I decided it wasn't worth teaching it "Ljungberg" since we'll hopefully never see him again.

ailsa, Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:19 (fourteen years ago)

how many spl players are as good or better than abou diaby?

Ten, or thereabouts, depending on form.

Kayal, Izaguirre, Brown, Hooper, Ledley from Celtic. Maybe Stokes on a good day, Samaras twice a year, and an unbroken Maloney. Commons looks like best cheapo signing for years but has disappeared from enough games lately for me to not believe the hype (despite his 20 mins motm & winning goal performance today). Wilson isn't a "better" player but I'd rather have him at right-back than Diaby in my midfield fwiw.
Jelavic, Davis, McGregor from Rangers. Maybe Bougherra when I'm not blinkered by hate for him. I'd have said Miller before he left. I keep grudgingly thinking there's a very good player somewhere in Whittaker (& that Rangers are training it out of him).
Maybe Templeton and Skacel from Hearts.
Eremenko at Kilmarnock.
Riordan & Miller at Hibs both capable of being top players but don't seem overly arsed about it.

death, taxes and (onimo), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:46 (fourteen years ago)

You didn't have that phone when JFash was at Airdrie then. </BManning> xpost

I said Omorotic, not homo-erotic (aldo), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:46 (fourteen years ago)

Deek is a better player, aye, but he seems to be confusing being picked with being on the bench and has been missing most games this season. Won't be sad when he moves on.

I said Omorotic, not homo-erotic (aldo), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:49 (fourteen years ago)

Way to grab your audience

By David McDaid

1220: Good afternoon! If you're just up after a nice, long Sunday lie-in and haven't looked outside, it's cold, it's wet and it's just downright miserable. Just stay in and follow the live text!

1223: Okay, so my weather report is not strictly accurarte... but stick about anyway. Please?

death, taxes and (onimo), Sunday, 10 April 2011 11:27 (fourteen years ago)

Celtic Quick News leading with a story containing an alleged email allegedly sent by one of the guys on the SFA Disciplinary Committee (David Dowling, well known Inverness man about town, and apparently a Rangers shareholder to boot*), which contains confidential details of Bobo Balde's contract, which would appear to be in clear breach of the Data Protection Act if it's been circulated outwith the SFA as the alleged evidence shows. "Evidence" contains clear "laughing at member club" sentiment, which is clearly what we expect from our heid yins.

http://celticquicknews.co.uk/?p=5097
http://docupub.com/docs/870cbe24-b549-464a-b6e5-f02c43a607ee/Bobo%20email%20blocked1.jpg

(is that enough "alleged" and whathaveyou to cover my back if this turns out to be a great big hoax?)

*handy when he's ruling on Doofus and Boogy tomorrow

ailsa, Monday, 11 April 2011 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

hmm sent to outgoing SFA president George Peat and apparent incoming president Campbell Ogilvie. I wonder how they reacted...

No institutional bias against Celtic at the SFA though, just more "banter" to file in their funnies folders.

death, taxes and (onimo), Monday, 11 April 2011 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

Article from Inverness Courier about David Dowling:

http://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/fullstory.php/aid/8426/Clach_still_seeking_calm_waters.html

Among the photos is a picture of him with his two sons Scott (24) and Christopher (27) — both partners at Cairngorm Windows — all wearing Rangers shirts at the UEFA Cup final in Manchester last year.

He is a shareholder in the Glasgow club he has supported from boyhood

Just the chap you want deciding the fate of two Rangers players the week before a derby game, then.

ailsa, Monday, 11 April 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

Cqn talks pish.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Monday, 11 April 2011 23:07 (fourteen years ago)

Had a dossier of doctored match reports during dallasgate. Except he didnae really.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Monday, 11 April 2011 23:08 (fourteen years ago)

Aye, that's a stick he's going to have to beat himself up with for a while, but at least he's provided something to go with this story. If it's pish, his reputation's in tatters.

ailsa, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 10:17 (fourteen years ago)

After Delboy McInnes getting launched into some major integrity-questioning on Radio Scotland this afternoon, Duberry's at it on Twitter as well. Expect strikes and fines and summits and that anytime soon, obv.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13041607.stm

ailsa, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 11:36 (fourteen years ago)

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/243197-bougherra-claims-he-faces-no-further-punishment-for-old-firm-flashpoint/

Diouf and Bougherra fined, no bans. Referees' next strike in protest at legitimising of manhandling and disrespect expected sometime around the time hell goes sub-zero.

ailsa, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 12:23 (fourteen years ago)

McCoist's ban overturned on appeal. SO basically shame game, summits, but mostly nothing to see - Bougherra's fine on a par with Hooper's, Diouf avoiding the instructions of the SFA and the police is worth half a day's wages, and McCoist did nothing wrong. So basically, it's all Neil Lennnon's fault. Smashing. I love the SFA.

ailsa, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 13:29 (fourteen years ago)

Sometimes I'm really glad I don't live in Scotland anymore

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 13:37 (fourteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/4266062.stm

"In such circumstances, where there is physical confrontation with an official, they should be considering a five-match suspension,"

Awaiting some updated comments from referees following the implication that referee-handling is now OK in Scotland...

ailsa, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 13:50 (fourteen years ago)

No discussion of the awesome front page Daily Record story about the Rangers managerial staff going rafting? I can't think of anything more important right now. Plus: "White Walter Rafting". Come on!

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

No case to answer:
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8593/screenshot20110304at201.png

Four match ban:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01843/lennon-mccoist_1843622c.jpg

Fuck the SFA.

death, taxes and (onimo), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 11:43 (fourteen years ago)

Ally McCoist, assistant to then Scotland manager Walter Smith, wrote in his Daily Record column, “When I heard the news of his three-match suspension, with no additional points added to his disciplinary record and a return date that puts him in line to play against Hearts on October 15, I was surprised to the point of being staggered by the SFA’s leniency.”

“If I was the match official involved I would feel I had been let down by my employers at the SFA.

“Before anyone is narrow-minded enough to think I’m speaking as a former Rangers player, let me nail that one to the wall straight away.

“If Fernando Ricksen had clashed with Dougal at Ibrox in an identical manner, I would have advocated the same, heavier sentence for him too. This is about the punishment fitting the crime and nothing to do with allegiances.

“Whatever I have to say about Lenny’s case is the opinion of someone trying to be an objective journalist. And someone who, as part of Walter Smith’s coaching team, is trying to think of what’s best for Scottish football.

“If Lennon had been given a five game ban on Tuesday night at his Hampden hearing I’d have said that was a real result for him.”

I await Sally's criticism of the SFA for not giving Bougherra a five match ban. Maybe he'd think fine of less than two hours wages was a "real result for him".

death, taxes and (onimo), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 11:46 (fourteen years ago)

Graham Spiers tweeting that the SFA should be suing Paul McBride for slander for calling them dishonest, dysfunctional and biased. Surely it's only slander if it's wrong?

ailsa, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 12:00 (fourteen years ago)

Fuck off, Spiers

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 12:02 (fourteen years ago)

It's only slander if it's in England, I think.

scotstvo, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 12:23 (fourteen years ago)

What is it up here? Defamation of character? Whatever it is, it isn't it, because he's basically right.

ailsa, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 12:32 (fourteen years ago)

Awaiting some updated comments from referees following the implication that referee-handling is now OK in Scotland...

Stuart Dougal first head up over the parapet.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/editor-s-picks/referee-dougal-urges-regan-to-go-public-on-rangers-let-offs-1.1096149

ailsa, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 13:04 (fourteen years ago)

Duberry's handball incident from yesterday's game, a truly baffling decision.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9XBBK6C_-U

ailsa, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 13:26 (fourteen years ago)

Nearly as baffling as deciding to start with Daryl Murphy up front.

ailsa, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 13:28 (fourteen years ago)

I'm sure we'll get an explanation of it on the SFA's Whistleblower site. Oh wait, they closed that after threatening to strike and getting a 40% pay rise...

death, taxes and (onimo), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 13:36 (fourteen years ago)

Hooray, Vlad's back, and in some style too... http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/england/2011/04/13/vladimir-romanov-i-was-mad-to-pass-up-opportunity-to-buy-liverpool-86908-23058045/

ailsa, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 13:37 (fourteen years ago)

Lots of people saying Lennon was right to go with Murphy and Sami and play it long because of the state of the pitch. Don't suppose it's worth pointing out that most of our best chances and the actual goal came from the rare occasions when the ball was played on the deck.

Apparently at this point in the season performances don't matter as it's all about getting results. Does watching that pish (and the pish vs St Mirren on Saturday) matter? Should we all stop going and just check the results later?

death, taxes and (onimo), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 13:40 (fourteen years ago)

People be insane. I can understand not playing Stokes alongside Samaras (doesn't strike me as a particularly productive partnership), but would have thought Shaun in behind Sami would have been a better option, no? We were bypassing the midfield something chronic, it was a full 23 minutes before I even realised Joe Ledley was playing, and that was just because the cameras panned across the box at a corner.

We'll be not-pish on Sunday against the Sheeps though. Got a Scottish-Cup-semi-shaped monkey to get off Lennon's back.

ailsa, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 13:44 (fourteen years ago)

Murphy was woeful and playing both him and samaras in the same role,one they're both not adept at,holding the ball up and receiving long balls was as big a tactical fuck up as going 442 on Saturday with two wingers when it's been more or less proven that we're shite playing like that.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 13:55 (fourteen years ago)

I thought the biggest disaster on Saturday was dropping Joe Ledley for Ki, actually. He was gash, had no idea what he was meant to be doing, and seemed to be asleep for most of the game (see St Midden numpty taking the ball off his toes as he fannied about deciding which player behind him he was going to attempt to pass it to).

ailsa, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 13:59 (fourteen years ago)

was resting players. Which I can complain about less.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 14:15 (fourteen years ago)

He wasn't resting them, he was avoiding them getting bookings and missing the derby game.

death, taxes and (onimo), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 14:17 (fourteen years ago)

Ledley wasn't a booking away from missing the Rangers game, and Stokes, who played, was. I can understand thinking you can beat St Mirren without Brown and Wilson and thinking they're vital for Ibrox, but the additional tinkering of removing another midfielder from an already-changed team was a step too far.

ailsa, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 14:20 (fourteen years ago)

I told you at the time, Neil Lennon doesn't want to pick Stokes vs Rangers and would have been quite happy for a booking to take the decision out of his hands. I'm all about the conspiracies.

death, taxes and (onimo), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 14:25 (fourteen years ago)

Good article -

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/celtic/embarrassing-against-the-rules-and-shameful-1.1096025

One must wait for the ballot today when the referees, presumably enraged at the leniency of the sentences, take to the picket line.

death, taxes and (onimo), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 14:43 (fourteen years ago)

Was going to post that earlier but got distracted, it's excellent stuff, yes. And not replicated across the rest of the papers, sadly.

I believe I agreed with your Stokes conspiracy, I think he'll start with Sami at Ibrox. Still don't understand the Ledley thing though.

ailsa, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 14:52 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X5wZIEguGY&feature=player_embedded

daym.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

Ugh, is too early to be contemplating Kyle Lafferty's face :-(

ailsa, Thursday, 14 April 2011 08:40 (fourteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/13072210.stm

WOnder who else they're thinking of suing? Everyone who's used #fuckthesfa on twitter?

The Scottish FA is now considering, with the benefit of legal advice, whether to sue just Paul McBride for damages or whether to also sue other parties.

I'm looking forward to their clarification of yesterday's decisions after the 7 day window has passed (just in case El Hasbeen and Boogieman want to appeal their harsh punishments).

ailsa, Thursday, 14 April 2011 11:06 (fourteen years ago)

BBC article misses out the best bit of McBride's response to the SFA statement, which is him saying that it's stupid, and like the missing page of a Monty Python sketch.

ailsa, Thursday, 14 April 2011 11:29 (fourteen years ago)

Private Eye on the case of the fakeover:

http://img840.imageshack.us/i/privateeye.gif/

ailsa, Thursday, 14 April 2011 11:41 (fourteen years ago)

I'm looking forward to their clarification of yesterday's decisions after the 7 day window has passed

Or now, as it happens.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/editor-s-picks/why-rangers-trio-escaped-bans-1.1096389

ailsa, Thursday, 14 April 2011 12:35 (fourteen years ago)

POTY nominations, and it seems Beram Kayal's so good that no-one even thought it was worth nominating him. Get your money on divey wee Naisy and [controversial mod edit] wee Goodwillie, I reckon.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13078886.stm

ailsa, Thursday, 14 April 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

Rangers looking at an £80k fine and a two-game away fans ban following the sectarian chanting at the PSV away game, with possible further sanctions if/when the home leg is brought up as a separate issue. Martin Bain's response - we've done all we can*, stop picking on us, that nice Northern Irish UEFA delegate didn't have a problem with it so why should anyone else, especially anyone from an organisation tasked with tackling racism in football?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13088419.stm

* obviously not enough though, is it?

ailsa, Thursday, 14 April 2011 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

Previous UEFA statement on how they found them not guilty of sectarian singing that time round:

http://www.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirst/matchorganisation/disciplinary/news/newsid=413514.html

After studying the evidence at hand as well as the statement of Rangers FC, the Control & Disciplinary Body conceded that supporters have been singing the song "Billy Boys" for years during national and international matches without either the Scottish football or governmental authorities being able to intervene. The result is that this song is now somehow tolerated.

Well done, SFA o_O

ailsa, Friday, 15 April 2011 11:35 (fourteen years ago)

One for the conspiracists. The title race could go down to the wire and Celtic might need to beat Motherwell in the last game to win the league. Celtic winning that game and winning the league would guarantee Motherwell a place in Europe regardless of the outcome of the Cup Final. Would Stuart McCall throw a game to guarantee getting Motherwell into Europe if it meant Rangers missing out on the league?

every day I'm (onimo), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:24 (fourteen years ago)

Was hanging out with some Rangers fans at the weekend (long story), comparing persecution complexes, we think everyone in Scotland is against us and they think everyone in the world is against them, so they win I suppose

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:57 (fourteen years ago)

Can't believe the fakeover has hit another snag. Going to need another ironing board for all these details.

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 13:12 (fourteen years ago)

they think everyone in the world is against them

Whatever happened to "no-one likes us, we don't care"?

every day I'm (onimo), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 13:22 (fourteen years ago)

I see Dioufy, when he's not hanging with the Gaddafis, has evidently been briefed on the media requirements to talk up any young Rangers prospect:

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/244280-diouf-kerkar-has-a-bit-of-zidane-in-him/

Though if you read the quotes properly "Salim is a player who has great qualities,” Diouf told Le Buteur. “I mean, a lot of qualities"

So he doesn't mean great qualities, just, er, qualities.

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 13:25 (fourteen years ago)

It's become "No-one likes us, we're shitting ourselves" (xp)

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 13:26 (fourteen years ago)

they think everyone in the world is against them

seems fair tbh

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 13:26 (fourteen years ago)

Everyone in the world other than the people than matter in Scottish football, maybe.

every day I'm (onimo), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 13:28 (fourteen years ago)

well yeah obv

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 13:28 (fourteen years ago)

Further to Motherwell's dilemma upthread, I see the same thing could be an issue in England too, whereby Stoke losing could get them a go in Europe:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13130370.stm

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 14:37 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/vIxOh.jpg

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:15 (fourteen years ago)

actual bombs this time.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:15 (fourteen years ago)

i fucking despair about this country

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:57 (fourteen years ago)

i blame catholic schools.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:59 (fourteen years ago)

oh wait no i don't i'm not an exec of the sfa

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:59 (fourteen years ago)

wish it was as simple as that

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:00 (fourteen years ago)

what kind of person sends parcel bombs because of football.

infact what kind of person sends parcel bombs

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:02 (fourteen years ago)

oh wait no i don't i'm not an exec of the sfa

― tending tropics (jim in glasgow),

has an sfa executive come out against catholic schools?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:03 (fourteen years ago)

gordon smith famously blamed sectarianism on catholic schools.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:03 (fourteen years ago)

despite the fact that the club with the sectarian singing issue is rangers, and not too many of their fans go to catholic schools i would imagine.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:04 (fourteen years ago)

oh and also the bomb hoax and bomb threat issue this season.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:04 (fourteen years ago)

gordon smith was also a tosser

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:04 (fourteen years ago)

Still is, based on what i've heard on radio scotland.

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:37 (fourteen years ago)

Talking of tossers, that was some refereeing masterclass from willie collum at tannadice this evening.

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 23:13 (fourteen years ago)

hey Celtic fans, is it true that they now train in the grounds of the ex mental hospital Lennox Castle?

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 23:23 (fourteen years ago)

It is, aye.

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 23:50 (fourteen years ago)

Wikipedia says it's ex- nhs land next door, actually.

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 23:59 (fourteen years ago)

wish it was as simple as that

I assume this is just a really badly-phrased response, BTW..

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 09:11 (fourteen years ago)

Just called out a fucking idiot in the office making Lennon bomb jokes. Fuck this country.

every day I'm (onimo), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 09:13 (fourteen years ago)

Glad I'm out of Scotland this weekend. Resisting the urge to suggest that Celtic do the same.

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 09:19 (fourteen years ago)

@BBCBreaking
BBC Breaking News
Police investigating suspicious package sent to former minister Brian Wilson, who is a director of Celtic FC, on island of Lewis

This shit is seriously depressing me.

Hearing that the police have known for weeks that someone is sending nail bombs to Celtic supporters & staff but asked for a news blackout wtf? Don't they think anyone crazy enough to send nail bombs to politicians, QCs and football managers might just have an inclination to throw one into a pub full of Celtic fans?

Fuck this country and fuck its football and seriously fuck any cunt who even attempts to give me any "all as bad as each other" shite.

every day I'm (onimo), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:00 (fourteen years ago)

Well done to Berwick
http://www.berwickrangers.net/newsitem.php?nid=497

every day I'm (onimo), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:01 (fourteen years ago)

Twitter is destroying my will to live. Graham spiers is taking the piss.

btw, excellent win tonight. If football still matters.

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 22:54 (fourteen years ago)

Last bit of goodwill for the 'nation' that calls itself scotland just ran out.

Was really impressed by our showing tonight.but rangers is a totally different proposition.shitting myself.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 21 April 2011 02:22 (fourteen years ago)

Will be fine. I'd put Sami out on the wing instead of Forrest (yes, really), and leave everything else the same. It'll be fine. Honest. They're pish and on their last legs. We seem to have learned how to play football again after two and a half dismal performances against St Mirren, St Johnstone and Aberdeen.

ailsa, Thursday, 21 April 2011 09:24 (fourteen years ago)

Graham Spiers is ok on twitter, I think. Mostly. Considering the flak he gets from all sides.

Good performance last night shook me out of some of my depression over everything else that's going on.

every day I'm (onimo), Thursday, 21 April 2011 09:26 (fourteen years ago)

Ailsa you're maybe forgetting our ineptitude last time out against Rangers. I agree that we're playing properly again but once more I think we'll see a tactical change for Rangers that'll take some of that football out of the team.

Sami shouldn't be within a mile of a Celtic team.

every day I'm (onimo), Thursday, 21 April 2011 09:28 (fourteen years ago)

I'd blotting that final out of my mind, thanks - but you're right, it was shit. Proper Celtic turned up again the following midweek against Hibs though. We basically need to start like we did last night, and not let Rangers stifle us into submission.

I still, despite everything, have faith in Sami. And I'm guessing his inclusion will be the tinkering, but I was none too impressed with Forrest last night and think Sami's pace and strength will be the replacement in Lenny's eyes. I think he'd be a more effective guy to run straight at the Rangers defence, but I suspect Shaun will get the nod. I wouldn't play Forrest against them, and Ljungberg can get tae.

Graham Spiers last night on Twitter said "There is an inherent danger, though, of Celtic fans being pumped-up by this Lennon saga. The pro-IRA chants were notably greater and louder." I thought the support for Neil Lennon last night was, as expected, brilliant, and I didn't hear owt more embarrassing than usual last night (we really need to drop The Celtic Symphony though, and not just because it's shit).

ailsa, Thursday, 21 April 2011 09:51 (fourteen years ago)

I think there was more and louder upping of the ra than usual and I think there is a danger of "Celtic fans being pumped-up by this Lennon saga" - I'm fucking fuming about the whole thing but I'll do little more than moan and call out twats in the office who think it's all funny. I imagine some of our nutter element (and let's not pretend we don't have one) will be fucking fuming as well - they might (might!) be more inclined to react with more than an outraged internet post.

every day I'm (onimo), Thursday, 21 April 2011 10:17 (fourteen years ago)

I'll beg to differ on that one then. I'm fucking raging about the whole thing too, but I really don't think we'll see much more reaction than calling out twats for being twats and even more unity on the Neil-Lennon-as-Spartacus front, and that's hardly what I'd call an inherent danger. I hope not to be proven wrong any time soon.

(I heard the Up the Ra stuff, which is why I said no more embarrassing than usual, and also said it should be dropped. I don't think it was a reaction to recent events as it's been heard in away grounds for long enough, and I hate that it's started creeping in via the Green Brigade at Celtic Park after going on record here as saying you won't hear stuff like that at Celtic Park*).

* debate about whether it's actually wrong for another time, imo it's *unnecessary* and draws unwanted attention and gives Rangers fans and apologists a straw to grasp when playing the "bad as each other" game.

ailsa, Thursday, 21 April 2011 10:48 (fourteen years ago)

Further to the Berwick Rangers youth player mentioned upthread, a Clyde U19 player also suspended:

http://www.clydefc.co.uk/news/2011/04/21/3863/

ailsa, Thursday, 21 April 2011 12:39 (fourteen years ago)

Next time anyone says to me anything along the lines of "One side's as bad as the other" I'm going to punch them in the face

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 April 2011 12:44 (fourteen years ago)

St Mirren and Motherwell also investigating two youth players for social network messages. Makes you wonder what shite our u19s put up with on the field.

every day I'm (onimo), Friday, 22 April 2011 11:26 (fourteen years ago)

what shite our u19s put up with

Not enough to put them off - U19 title secured yesterday with a 4-0 win over Motherwell.

Nerves kicking in big time for the big boy's game. Is it too early for a Fusilier?

every day I'm (onimo), Sunday, 24 April 2011 09:13 (fourteen years ago)

Commons and Stokes dropped for Ki and Sami wtf Lennie?

every day I'm (onimo), Sunday, 24 April 2011 11:07 (fourteen years ago)

I'm only watching out the corner of my eye but it seems like McGregor is pulling off crazy mad saves every five minutes?

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 24 April 2011 13:04 (fourteen years ago)

inc. that one.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 24 April 2011 13:14 (fourteen years ago)

(listening to Panda Bear's 'Benfica' with football crowd sample while watching this in silence = confusing.)

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 24 April 2011 13:14 (fourteen years ago)

Maybe if you've only looked at the screen 3-4 times. But he has had a cracking game.

scotstvo, Sunday, 24 April 2011 13:18 (fourteen years ago)

Celtic finally get a dodgy penalty at Ibrox and proceed to miss it. Still I would think a point will do them okay.

what?...it's a penalty...piss off (pandemic), Sunday, 24 April 2011 13:29 (fourteen years ago)

Celtic finally get a dodgy penalty at Ibrox

Was completely unsurprised to see Wattie saying afterwards that this proves Celtic have nothing to be paranoid about and we do get decisions in our favour. Aye, one. Count it. ONE.

(and we are so honest and upstanding that we couldn't even bring ourselves to take the extra two points that scoring it would have afforded us...nah, can't do it. Fuck letting Sami take a penalty when Kris Commons is on the pitch)

ailsa, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

Thought it was debatable and on the soft side but seen them given tbh - one Stokes was booked for was a pen as well, even if he did throw himself down.

People have been pointing out how many penalties we've had since the big SFA showdown shite but I think Sunday's was the *only* questionable decision we've had, others were all definite penalties. Are people saying it's wrong that we've had a couple of months of getting *correct* decisions?

Smith moaning about penalties against him is a joke considering he got one against us earlier this season from a ref who was looking away from the incident/dive. He seems to have forgotten getting three penalties in one game during the week and finishing the game 11 vs 8.

Fuck letting Sami take a penalty wear a Celtic jersey ever again.

Fixed.

every day I'm (onimo), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

When I got back to spend time with various people who may frequent these boards, my description of the penalty incident was "exactly the sort of thing that makes people say 'seen them given. Put it this way, would have been raging if it had been given against us".

Poor Sami :-(

ailsa, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 22:25 (fourteen years ago)

btw, raging about soft penalties being given is not mutually exclusive with thinking they are still penalties.

Thought the Stokes one looked a pen as well.

ailsa, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 22:29 (fourteen years ago)

play a game of what-if

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cugn15q47g0mtcq/title_run_in_2011.xls

every day I'm (onimo), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

Youth cup final into extra time @ 1-1. Guess how many shots Rangers have had.

every day I'm (onimo), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

Baby Hoops won the double - 2-1 aet tonight with what sounded like a brilliant goal from Gormley.

every day I'm (onimo), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

Goals from the Young Bhoys taking advantage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp8gGxTrKIs

every day I'm (onimo), Thursday, 28 April 2011 11:11 (fourteen years ago)

ESPN really needs to crawl out of Walter's arse.

every day I'm (onimo), Saturday, 30 April 2011 10:53 (fourteen years ago)

Maurice Ross is either really really shite or is actually playing for Rangers here.

every day I'm (onimo), Saturday, 30 April 2011 11:42 (fourteen years ago)

Half time summary: Already booked Lafferty gets away with a blatant RVP knowing the whistle had gone. John Sutton booked for being fouled. Rangers scoring after a foul on Sutton not given. Motherwell denied a penalty.

every day I'm (onimo), Saturday, 30 April 2011 11:50 (fourteen years ago)

Apparently Davie Weir has "congratulations William and Kate" embroidered on his shirt o_O

every day I'm (onimo), Saturday, 30 April 2011 11:52 (fourteen years ago)

Maurice Ross is either really really shite

Fairly certain he's just shite. Is there any suggestion that the barrage of dodgy decisions is evening up that one soft penalty that Celtic got once?

ailsa, Saturday, 30 April 2011 12:20 (fourteen years ago)

Apparently it's a tough game being a ref and video evidence wouldn't have helped (except that it clearly would).

2-0, I'm off to cut the grass :(

every day I'm (onimo), Saturday, 30 April 2011 12:24 (fourteen years ago)

I am on a bus, which is preferable to watching this on the telly. Still slightly boggling at Davie Weir's embroidered top.

ailsa, Saturday, 30 April 2011 12:30 (fourteen years ago)

Twitterverse leads me to believe that Weir's patriotic shirt is in breach of some regulation or other. What a shame.

ailsa, Saturday, 30 April 2011 15:36 (fourteen years ago)

RIP Eddie Turnbull. We'll always have 7-0.

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Saturday, 30 April 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

Was just coming here to post about that. RIP.

Congratulations to Dunfermline and welcome back to the SPL.

ailsa, Saturday, 30 April 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

Aye well done to Dunfermline & commiserations to Raith Rovers and all their SPL thread supporter.

every day I'm (onimo), Saturday, 30 April 2011 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

Will try to remember to make the thread title less SPL-centric next season. Or we could have a lower league thread too.

ailsa, Saturday, 30 April 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

Or at least less old firm centric.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Saturday, 30 April 2011 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

Fault of the people who do (or don't) post, that. Just think it's a bit wrong to call it the SPL thread when it's just generic Scottish football in general, national and domestic.

ailsa, Saturday, 30 April 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, I guess so. Don't hold out much hope for discussion about East Fife though. :(

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Saturday, 30 April 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

One of the six(?) Scottish senior league clubs whose name begins and ends with the same letter.

scotstvo, Sunday, 1 May 2011 09:18 (fourteen years ago)

Celtic, kilmarnock, east stirlingshire, dundee united...who's the sixth one? Alloa don't count.

ailsa, Sunday, 1 May 2011 14:36 (fourteen years ago)

Heh, it could be five :)

scotstvo, Sunday, 1 May 2011 14:45 (fourteen years ago)

Aye, five right enough according to this: http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071110170845AAiassW

Here's a complete list, including the Junior leagues

Celtic
Kilmarnock
Dundee Utd
East Stirlingshire
East Fife
East Kilbride Thistle
Spartans
Neilston
Benburb
St Anthonys
St Rochs
St Andrews
Wishaw
Arbroath Victoria
Dundee North End
East Craigie
Tayport
Tranent
Nairn St Ninian
New Elgin

scotstvo, Sunday, 1 May 2011 14:48 (fourteen years ago)

Good stuff.

Some good goals at Celtic Park this afternoon, with Daryl Murphy doing his nest Paddy impression to round it off. (yes, really!)

Not at all impressed with Forrest this afternoon, but pressure still being applied in the title race. And now I'm off to sit in the sun and not worry about another midweek trip to Inverness.

ailsa, Sunday, 1 May 2011 14:55 (fourteen years ago)

was a weird one today. lots of chances and can hardly complain after scoring 4 goals and only conceding one. but we were so inconsistent. forrest was pish, not that i want to get on the wee man's back too much, and we really missed ledley. stokes was murder as far as linking up with hooper, well except from setting him up with a perfectly weighted ball for the first goal. just a strange one all round. beram kayal 25 yard left foot screamer and daryl murphy scoring that goal. wtf.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 1 May 2011 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

Izaguirre player of the year :D

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 1 May 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

Best player who isn't kayal imo.

ailsa, Sunday, 1 May 2011 23:05 (fourteen years ago)

I was happy to see that John McGlynn got manager of the year. Given the resources at his disposal what the Rovers have achieved this year has been pretty amazing.
It's a pity we ran out of steam during the run in, but it was a good ride while it lasted.

treefell, Monday, 2 May 2011 08:35 (fourteen years ago)

stokes was murder as far as linking up with hooper

Stokes joined up midfield to attack brilliantly and was involved with most good things we did in the game. Maybe the disconnect with Hooper was Hooper's fault? What did Hooper he do apart from his goal? Stokes was up there with Commons, Izaguirre & Kayal for motm from where I was watching.

every day I'm (onimo), Monday, 2 May 2011 08:57 (fourteen years ago)

Hooper he do

Please tell me he actually gets called that, in an exciteable way with a distinct exclamation mark at the end.

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Monday, 2 May 2011 09:00 (fourteen years ago)

SPL awards last night and your SPL Family Champions for the season are.... Rangers. WTF? Also had a wee chuckle at best media relations going to Motherwell, replacing tabloid-friendly chappie Craig Brown with tabloid-friendly chappie Stuart McCall. Don't think Celtic were ever in the running for that, with Neil Lennon basically going "you're all fucking dicks and I don't even want to give you the time of day" to every hack ever.

Izaguirre player of the year, Goodwillie young player. Mixu manager of the year (didn't I start this thread saying he'd get Killie relegated?). World refusal to acknowledge the genius of Paddy McCourt continues as Deeks gets goal of the season for scoring against Celtic. Least Allan McGregor getting smacked in the face by a Sami header didn't win save of the season.

ailsa, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 08:33 (fourteen years ago)

googling "samaritans".

bottling bastards. terrible managerial decisions. double whammy.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

bogey ground

cozeny mubarak (cozen), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

Bogey ground fuck off. Taking off both your strikers when you need goals = the second coming of Tony Mowbray (phoned my dad at halftime and said Stokes was shite, but was advocating Paddy on and let Shaun push forward supporting Hoops, no fucking way was Murphy on his own an option, weekend wonder goal or no). Can only assume Lenny has gone insane, Izzy still has a hangover from all his POTY nominations, and that Stokes is actually completely shit. But really, fucking mark free blokes in shooting positions, stop arsing around, and remember there's a fucking title to be won. I will gladly buy all regular posters on here a pint if we fucking win this league now. Upper hand back to Rangers, and I can't see a way we get to win it now.

This was only the third time I ever cried in a pub. First was Helicopter Sunday, second was Maurice Edu's winner last year when I began to believe we could haul something out of nothing and we were taken out of it. I am completely unashamed to admit I bawled like a bairn today. We had it, we needed it, we had a game against a team with fuck all to play for. And we never fucking once looked like we could do it. Taking all your fucking strikers off when you need goals? WTF? The penalty shout after the penalty was borne out of desperation, we should have never had needed to be crying out for a lifeline against a team like Caley bastarding Thistle. Fuck you, Celtic. Manager has been the victim of attempted murder. Rangers are on the verge of financial ruin. What more fucking incentive do you NEED to turn up against a team that aren't even in the same half of the league as you to take the actual real lead in the title race?

(PS, can someone shave the pointy corners off of Dan's head, kthanxbye)

Off to forget tonight actually happened. And to remember how I felt after the draw at home to Motherwell in 2008, which turned out OK in the end. And, er, to paranoidly google refereeing appointments.

ailsa, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 21:47 (fourteen years ago)

Thankfully I am a mod on dis ting, and can delete my shameful drunken ramblings in the morning :-)

ailsa, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 21:53 (fourteen years ago)

hmmm

Forster; Wilson, Majstorovic, Rogne, Izaguirre; Forrest, Brown, Ki, Commons; Murphy, Hooper
Subs: Zaluska, Juarez, Maloney, Cha, McGinn, McCourt, Mulgrew

Looks like Mulgrew is taking the hit for the ICT game. Soft as shite midfield again, not looking forward to this at all. I'd have gone for Mulgrew, Ki, Brown, one of Forrest/Maloney/Paddy/Commons across the middle. I'd even have considered Juarez, if he was anything like the Juarez from the start of the season.

Sami picked for Ibrox yet behind Maloney and McGinn(!) and misses out on the bench following 14 of his team-mates having absolute shite performances vs ICT and four team changes. Time to call your agent son.

charlie adam's sister's pants (onimo), Sunday, 8 May 2011 11:12 (fourteen years ago)

Sami picked for Ibrox yet behind Maloney and McGinn(!)

and Murphy, obv.

charlie adam's sister's pants (onimo), Sunday, 8 May 2011 11:13 (fourteen years ago)

Shocking game. Nice time to get a sneaky undeserved goal.

Collum looking card-happy today. Get your money on a red card for someone - 7 in his last 6 games.

charlie adam's sister's pants (onimo), Sunday, 8 May 2011 12:38 (fourteen years ago)

Commons is the best £300k we've spent since Lubo. Brilliant goal once again.

charlie adam's sister's pants (onimo), Sunday, 8 May 2011 13:12 (fourteen years ago)

Get the feeling this could be too little too late. My old man reckons Rangers will slip up before the end of the season, but I really can't see it.

Sami was suspended today, btw.

ailsa, Sunday, 8 May 2011 15:46 (fourteen years ago)

Can't see Rangers dropping points tbh - Killie will offer nothing and Dundee United seem keen on Rangers winning the league, going by their centre-forward's comments this week.

charlie adam's sister's pants (onimo), Sunday, 8 May 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

As I said, me neither. Serves us right for a rotten patch in December, as well as stupid missed opportunities more recently. Marathon not sprint, etc. We shouldn't have needed this last-minute sprint for the line tbh. Still, will have a tearful reminisce the paranoia opportunities afforded by that game at New Douglas Park.

Hilarious gag by Killie playing 'Paranoid' over the PA as the teams came out.

ailsa, Sunday, 8 May 2011 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

Seven arrests over gun alert at Celtic's training camp

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 12:03 (fourteen years ago)

So long Hamilton, you made the relegation issue almost interesting for a week.

charlie adam's sister's pants (onimo), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, was in the pub with some very nervous Buddies on Saturday.

Have lost most of my enthusiasm for football, and the thought that all I've got to look forward to in real life for the rest of the season is looking at Motherwell isn't helping, even with two trophies at stake. Hopefully this is just a temporary blip caused by prolonged exposure to Kyle Lafferty.

ailsa, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 21:48 (fourteen years ago)

lol

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/9800/unledrgr.jpg

charlie adam's sister's pants (onimo), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:35 (fourteen years ago)

Good to know that there's always stupid huns to laugh at and cheer me up :-)

ailsa, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

this fucking country :(

charlie adam's sister's pants (onimo), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 19:59 (fourteen years ago)

Aye, fucking shameful. And the only surprising thing is that it hasn't happened before.

ailsa, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

have only seen it once, briefly

didn't look like a 'fight' to me, contrary to graham spiers' take. looked like the loon lamped lennon

LDDDDLWLDDLDL (cozen), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 21:18 (fourteen years ago)

Spiers taking pelters on Twitter, sticking head in sand going 'what? What did I say?'. Guy's a tit but not entirely unrepresentative of a popular viewpoint if pub dickery tonight anything to go by. Overheard: 'difference is, like, your Arsene Wengers get irate then sit down, Lennon keeps on looking angry', 'thing is, what do you expect in a country that associates freemasonry with proddyism (sic)', and this is in a Celtic-friendly pub!

I've had enough. I was nearly greeting listening to Johan's post match interview with yer Wenger bloke above shouting at his girlfriend and mates and I wanted to emigrate on the spot. I can't believe we aren't winning the league for Neil Lennon - I've never wanted a title more, and that includes stopping rangers' ten in a row and the Tommy Burns year. I am running out of ways to express how I feel about this. I want out.

This has all overshadowed what was a great performance under pressure from a makeshift team at a tough ground. But this stopped being about the football a while ago.

ailsa, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 23:35 (fourteen years ago)

btw, bless stupid wee Kris Commons for thinking a red-card-resultant suspension wouldn't kick in for 14 days. I genuinely think he thought he would get sent off for going to the fans and it wouldn't kick in until next season, until the Sky Sports interviewer put him right and gave him a total redder.

btw, Wenger-excuse bloke was also giving forth about how Commons would appeal his red and get to play on Sunday. I turned round and said "naw, mate, you can only appeal a straight red, his red was a second yellow so he's definitely out" "aye", says Mr Fannybaws, "he'll just appeal the first yellow then" "he can't do that, you can't appeal a yellow, just a straight red". His mates were all "lol you got pwned by a lassie" at him and he looked a bit raging (so probably deserving of a punch and some letterbombs, by his own logic) so I shuffled off to the other end of the bar to talk to someone else. I hope I'm right, btw, not for Commons's sake, but just to score petty points in a pub argument with a twat.

ailsa, Thursday, 12 May 2011 00:11 (fourteen years ago)

You're right (afaik) - a yellow can only be appealed for cases of mistaken identity.

charlie adam's sister's pants (onimo), Thursday, 12 May 2011 09:04 (fourteen years ago)

Spiers "what did I say" shit is classic disingenuous internet trollery, hopefully everyone stops feeding and following him.

Jeffries is a tit as well, implying that it all kicked off because of a "six and half a dozen thing" on the touchline when Obua swung a punch at Mulgrew in response to being shouldered off the ball.

Sick and tired of these "he bring it on himself" arseholes in the media/internet/at work. I know blaming the victim is a tried and tested strategy for those whose position is threatened but it's getting ridiculous here. Neil Lennon did nothing, absolutely nothing, last night to inflame the Hearts supporters.

Derek Johnstone's Real Radio commentary is a treat - here's how he describes an unprovoked attack on Neil Lennon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HnC-QCA7pg

Three great goals and some tasty football completely overshadowed by bigoted bawbags once again.

charlie adam's sister's pants (onimo), Thursday, 12 May 2011 09:15 (fourteen years ago)

To quote Brasseye, depressed beyond tablets @ the way this season has turned out and the stupid cunting country of Scottish cunts

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 May 2011 11:08 (fourteen years ago)

And there's more.... Suspicious package found at Celtic Park

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 May 2011 12:51 (fourteen years ago)

Sick and tired of these "he bring it on himself" arseholes in the media/internet/at work

Advise you to keep well away from Sky News' marvellous "Neil Lennon's History of Controversies" article and the comments thereafter. The article itself is all crap, starts of with why is Lennon so demonised, and comes up with one suggestion from Andy Walker, that he was attacked for suggesting Hearts didn't try enough against Rangers (which he has denied alleging, and it's not like Hearts didn't drop their best players anyway, much like Dundee United mysteriously dispensing with previous-game-hattrick-hero Jon Daly on Tuesday). Obviously the accompanying photo is him snarling at Sally.

Actually I advise anyone to stay away from Sky News anyway, but I got suckered in via a link on Twitter.

ailsa, Thursday, 12 May 2011 13:17 (fourteen years ago)

o_O

And that aspect of his persona – the irrepressible Taig who has haunted the imaginings of Ulster Protestants for 300 years – has to be a factor in the visceral hatred directed towards him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/celtic/8510762/Neil-Lennon-is-an-Irishman-who-polarises-opinion-like-no-other.html

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Thursday, 12 May 2011 23:16 (fourteen years ago)

Wow, that's...something. Glad I'm getting out of Scotland for the next few weeks of victim-blaming.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Thursday, 12 May 2011 23:30 (fourteen years ago)

Wow. Can anyone please give a me a list of the inciteful snarling brawling uppity-Taig behaviour shown by fellow bullet-recipients Niall McGinn and Paddy McCourt? Other than, er, being Catholics from Northern Ireland who play for Celtic?

I look forward to a similar article condemning Trish Godman for having the insolence to support a football team.

I went off on a long-winded rant to my dad on the phone last night about the possibility of Celtic appealing to UEFA to be allowed to leave the Scottish football set-up on grounds of safety. I'm not sure how serious I was, but every single one of these articles/incidents/numpties in the pub makes me more certain that I feel increasingly unsure of whether I want Celtic to continue. I mean, of course I do, for one, they're my team, for two I don't want these idiots to think they've won. But balance that against human safety, and it's horribly murky.

By the way, I'm still not entirely convinced of Neil Lennon's managerial credentials. We might lose the league to a threadbare squad on their knees, ffs, even though I accept a massive turnaround in a year (I said elsewhere we've drawn level from a long way back, that in itself should ensure him another start on a level playing field to see if the improvement continues). But I have never wanted something for someone as badly in footballing terms as I want Celtic to win this league for Neil Lennon.

And *if* he's forced out by this, I like to think Celtic would take a long hard look at whether they want to remain in a country that allows this to happen.

ailsa, Friday, 13 May 2011 08:46 (fourteen years ago)

Celtic appealing to UEFA to be allowed to leave the Scottish football set-up on grounds of safety

Great idea. I'm about go ballistic (like Super Caley) if I hear one more ignorant twat call this "an Old Firm problem".

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 08:50 (fourteen years ago)

What, you think it's a whole of Scotland problem Tom? I'm not sure Hibs and Hearts fans do it to each other, but it certainly happens on both sides of the Old Firm divide.

http://thesun.mobi/thescottishsun/sport/spl/3321599/They-sent-me-bullets-and-vowed-Id-be-killed-by-the-IRA.html?mob=1

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:24 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not sure Hibs and Hearts fans do it to each other

Seems like Hearts fans do it to Celtic managers though, eh?

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:26 (fourteen years ago)

Good article
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1386524/Neil-Lennon-assault-proves-time-Scots-admit-scale-sectarian-sickness.html

As former Celtic striker Andy Walker acknowledged yesterday: ‘I’ve never known any figure to be so loathed, so demonised, so hated. We have to ask ourselves why that is.’

It’s got nothing to do with his touchline behaviour. Jefferies himself is every bit as animated, every bit as aggressive in challenging decisions, as Lennon. Neither man is alone among peers in cutting a confrontational figure from time to time.

Yet there are racists and bigots who want to drive Lennon out of the country — a second-best option, in their eyes, to putting him in an early grave.

Then there are casual abusers who, while lacking the core motivation of the extremists, are happy to join in the attacks on a man whose greatest offence may be a refusal to prostrate himself before his critics.

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:27 (fourteen years ago)

What, you think it's a whole of Scotland problem Tom?

Yes, and if you think otherwise then I give up

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:28 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not sure Hibs and Hearts fans do it to each other

didn't a jambo attack Deek on the pitch last year?

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:29 (fourteen years ago)

This is a problem with Scottish society not just Scottish football

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:31 (fourteen years ago)

That's OK Tom, thanks for clarifying that you think it's a whole of Scotland problem. I agree with you to a degree, but most times when people say "it's not an Old Firm problem" they tend to be blaming one side only.

Hypothetical question - how is this necessarily different to the Dida incident? IIRC Brian Quinn said the incident was inexcusable BUT obviously Dida's behaviour played his part in it and that should reflect how we viewed it. I also think general public reaction was that he was just being a cheeky wee laddie.

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:35 (fourteen years ago)

derailing from Scottish crap for a minute I've just discovered this

Soccer - America's Path To Socialism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBkbj_S3etY
Why in the name of our Lord and Savior who was killed by the Jews so we could have ever lasting life, is America in some soccer tournament?? Why? Because it's all part of Barak Osama Homo bin Laden's plot to install socialism on our shores.

Saviour starts with S!

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:37 (fourteen years ago)

G, I was thinking more about sending bullets to players. If players getting attacked by opposing fans is the issue then the problem's with football as a whole (or maybe even any team sport, it happens in rugby too), rather than Scottish identity or any religious issue.

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:37 (fourteen years ago)

but most times when people say "it's not an Old Firm problem" they tend to be blaming one side only

And when people say "it's an Old Firm problem" they tend to be blaming both sides equally

I also think general public reaction was that he was just being a cheeky wee laddie

I really don't know who you hang about with in that case

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:38 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not sure I see where you're going on the Old Firm point.

Maybe I'm misremembering the Dida thing then, but the focus as I remember it was definitely on Dida's reaction and not what the boy did.

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:42 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not sure I see where you're going on the Old Firm point.

Well if I knew where you were going I might know where I'm going.

Maybe I'm misremembering the Dida thing then, but the focus as I remember it was definitely on Dida's reaction and not what the boy did.

I can't even remember what Dida did tbh. I don't know anyone who didn't say, "What that fuck's that moron doing on the park, GET TAE FUCK!" or words to that effect

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:45 (fourteen years ago)

And when people say "it's an Old Firm problem" they tend to be blaming both sides equally

^otm - I'm happy for blame to be apportioned where it's deserved. Mark one off for bullet to Fernando (which was news to everyone when he said as it seemingly wasn't reported to the police or reported in any way whatsoever at the time he received it). Mark one each off for bullet to Lennon, bullet to Lennon, bullet to McCourt, bullet to McGinn, bomb to Lennon, fake bomb to Lennon's QC, fake bomb to Lennon, Lennon being bottled by a ned in George Square, Lennon being knocked unconscious by two thugs in the West End, idiot trying to drive Lennon and his child off the motorway. Another one or two off Timmy for vandalising Nacho Novo's motor and posting his address online. Anyone keeping score? No side is whiter than white here but anyone remotely claiming "thur aw as bad as each other" and thinking Neil Lennon gets the same treatment as Walter Smith has their head in the sand/up their arse.

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:46 (fourteen years ago)

Also, maybe my memory is playing tricks here, but has a manager ever been attacked during a match before?

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:48 (fourteen years ago)

Maybe it happens to Walter Smith all the time, I don't remember

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:49 (fourteen years ago)

I was at the Dida game - hardly anyone noticed it at the time as the game was up and we were all heading for the exits. Initial story was that he'd been attacked, initial reaction was "oh fuck some wee bastard's just got us thrown out of Europe", reaction to video was "well Dida's made a proper arse of himself there but we will still be punished", reaction to punishment was "fair enough, given what happened".

Still pissed at the wee cunt for taking the shine off what should have been a famous victory.

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:49 (fourteen years ago)

has a manager ever been attacked during a match before?

Yes. Mixu Pataalainin was chased into his dugout and grabbed by a mad man who had to be restrained and dragged away. His name was Walter iirc.

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:51 (fourteen years ago)

Dedicated Dida thread here:

Dida is a cheating bastard

Post 2 - "A fine for a fan coming on should suffice."

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:53 (fourteen years ago)

Coming on the pitch != trying to attack someone

You honestly think that Jambo prick the other night was the same as that wee nyah nyah giruy Celtic tit? I think you're reaching tbh. Also lol @ quoting Scottish football's most nuanced ilxor.

A fine probably will suffice for Hearts. No-one's going to close them down. Attacker should be jailed.

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:56 (fourteen years ago)

(xp) LOL, that's was Kerr! Actually, thread reminds me of what Dida did now, Celtic 3 Rapid Vienna 0 might explain the reaction of Celtic fans

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:57 (fourteen years ago)

oh look, here's a post from me

It's not like the wee prick did nothing wrong here kerr. He shouldn't have entered the field and he shouldn't have attempted to hug/punch/midge swat/whatever Dida. I hope he is identified and I can't see Celtic taking any action less than making sure he never attends another Celtic match.

Dida making a tit of himself isn't really the key issue here. That he's an opportunistic fuck who tried to seize a chance to redeem a match he'd cost his team is without question, but this isn't the first time we've had fans entering the field on European nights in recent years and I'm sure UEFA will punish Celtic heavily for it. It would be a shame if it ended up costing the players a deserved result or prevents us non-ned supporters from attending future CL matches. I'm hoping for a big fine and a stern talking to but precedents have already been set Dida flare thing vs Inter, Denmark vs Sweden - I don't think last night's incident was anywhere near as severe but the point is that bad stewarding could have ended up with Dida being actually injured rather than making a fanny of himself.

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Friday, 13 May 2011 11:59 (fourteen years ago)

Aye, and when Dom makes that same point he just cops for it. ailsa says he was " wee idiot thinking he was having a laugh".

I was going to stay out of this until the whole thing had calmed down and I wish I had tbh.

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Friday, 13 May 2011 12:28 (fourteen years ago)

I can only speak for myself here tbh, I think my post re Dida was fairly balanced. And my Ali pic was awesome.

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Friday, 13 May 2011 12:31 (fourteen years ago)

ailsa says he was " wee idiot thinking he was having a laugh".

He was, wasn't he?

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 12:33 (fourteen years ago)

Yes, I also said we should cop a censure and a fine for allowing a fan onto the pitch and I'd be OK with that. In that same post, I also mentioned about the severity of the punishment being based around his intent, which didn't seem to be to cause harm. Celtic Park didn't become a more dangerous place to go that night.

I suspect the guy who went for Lenny at Tynecastle on Tuesday could also be categorised as an idiot thinking he was having a laugh, but the fact he swung for him rather than laughingly twatting around would allow for value judgments about intent over and above idiocy.

ailsa, Friday, 13 May 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

And the fact that the attack on Neil Lennon the other night was a Hearts fan in Edinburgh should firmly shove the tin lid on the "Old Firm"/"West of Scotland" pish.

btw, Joe Ledley's car got the same treatment as Novo's, if you're keeping tabs. Lafferty's did an' all, but I don't think anyone proved it was Celtic fans that did it, and I'm also not sure if Ledley's was attributed to Rangers fans, so maybe it's just an occupational hazard of having a big fancy motor. Also, I might be wrong, but wasn't the Novo address that got everyone up in arms a fake one, like 1690 Orange Drive or something? Addresses are hard to keep secret anyway, if anyone wanted to follow Neil Lennon or Ally McCoist or some random St Mirren player or whatever home from training or from the pub, it wouldn't be that hard. Neil Lennon's address particularly not hard to find since there were pictures of his house helpfully plastered all over the paper when the street outside was graffitied.

ailsa, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/opinion/Leader-Celtic-also-have-a.6767978.jp

Some more classy ostriching, this time from the Scotsman.

ailsa, Saturday, 14 May 2011 10:02 (fourteen years ago)

Rangers 3 up in 8 mins! FFS Kilmarnock!

pandemic, Sunday, 15 May 2011 11:43 (fourteen years ago)

Thank fuck that's over, most horrible season ever. Looking forward to the cup final though, especially since Motherwell failed in their repeated attempts this afternoon to break Gary Hooper in advance of it.

ailsa, Sunday, 15 May 2011 14:55 (fourteen years ago)

having started going to celtic games in 1994 a last day of the season when we've not won the league comes easy to me.

sort of looking forward to the final, though if we play well it shouldn't even be a competition. it's coming slap bang in the middle of a depraved long weekend i'm having so i'll be lucky to remember it.

Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 15 May 2011 15:12 (fourteen years ago)

Donald "Derry's Walls" Findlay QC has been sent a suspicious package. Not a bomb but "intended to cause alarm".

http://news.stv.tv/scotland/east-central/249854-suspicious-package-found-at-cowdenbeath-football-club/

Country's going mad :(

For some reason there's nothing in the news about Rangers fans rampaging through Glasgow yesterday smashing shop windows (including the Celtic shop, obv) and fighting. Such good winners.

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Monday, 16 May 2011 15:50 (fourteen years ago)

Walter Smith starting his retirement by having a good moan about Celtic ruining the season for him. Boo hoo.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/16/rangers-walter-smith-celtic-neil-lennon

If they're not good enough, they'll not win and they can't look at anybody else, whether it's referees or any other influence

Aye, that penalty given when the referee's back was turned at Celtic Park at 2-1 had no influence on our team's chances of turning the game around. Going a blatantly-offside goal and a man down at Hamilton didn't affect us at all. People attempting to murder their boss? Nah, can't have affected the players at all.

Also still peddling the revisionist theory that Celtic caused the refereeing strike. Not sure what he means by "put up a challenge ... to everybody else" though?

Guardian hack not helping: That was one of several occasions on which Lennon or Celtic complained about match officials, failing to mention that (1) plenty other managers and/or clubs complained about officials, (2) the MacDonald/Craven display at Tannadice proved that we were well within our rights to and (3) Dioufy and Bougherra's disrespect to match officials seems to have escaped everyone's notice.

So cheerio you bitter auld man. Can't say we'll be missing you.

ailsa, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 09:00 (fourteen years ago)

Neil Lennon named in cocaine scandal (for no apparent reason).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-13423701

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 11:25 (fourteen years ago)

If they're not good enough, they'll not win and they can't look at anybody else, whether it's referees or any other influence

Walter never criticised referees of course

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 11:29 (fourteen years ago)

"I don't think anybody can say that that was a penalty out there."

Walter Smith - 22 days ago

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 11:34 (fourteen years ago)

Mark Wilson, voice of reason.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13427175.stm

"If I won the league, I'd just be delighted my team had won the league instead of having a parting shot,"

Amen to that.

ailsa, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

Derek Adams back at Ross County after all of five minutes at Hibs.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-first/ross-county/250674-derek-adams-back-in-charge-of-ross-county/

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Thursday, 19 May 2011 13:39 (fourteen years ago)

It's surely near enough the end of the season for the "biggest load of guff printed in the name of journalism" to be handed out then, eh?

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/247017/McInnes-on-Monday-column

ailsa, Thursday, 19 May 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

^ warning, may cause apoplexy, or possible injury to sides through consistent laughing, or a breakdown of neural synapses as you try to work out how many milk tokens you would need to mastermind the signing of Jellyfish and "maverick" Kyle Lafferty, while also working out how the hell you come up with the idea that Dan Majstorovic and Freddie Ljungberg are on £30k a week.

Seriously considering a wee email regarding the scare quotes round the word victims when referring to Neil Lennon et al, fuckwit. Also, don't they proofread columns, I assume they certainly don't vet them for content?

ailsa, Thursday, 19 May 2011 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

lol @ Tony Hamilton

polishturnstile
#Celtic will be without Shaun Maloney at Hampden - he's out with a calf strain, but you probably know that already #Beatleshavesplitup

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Friday, 20 May 2011 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

I very nearly tweeted 'lol' back at him for that one.

Stokesy's dad's pub was on Have I Got News For You tonight.

ailsa, Friday, 20 May 2011 23:28 (fourteen years ago)

Hearing rumours that the recent producers of a program on Scottish football bigotry, BBC Scotland, have brought in Hugh Dallas as a pundit for the cup final today.

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Saturday, 21 May 2011 09:43 (fourteen years ago)

^turned out to be bullshit :)

Don't need Dallas when he have idiots like Jim Delahunt (Clyde sport - accused Ki of being racist for cupping his ears and copying Neil Lennon, like what the Rangers players did without comment last week) and Rob McLean (BBC - accused Celtic of sectarian singing - I didn't hear a single sectarian song, unless "Stokesy's Dad hates the queen" counts, and that was sung after the accusation).

Great day yesterday only marred by pishing rain and being stuck in it for 45 minutes at Mount Florida. Game finished at 4.50 and it was 6.40 before we made it to a city centre pub.

Going to have a day of rest and watch the English relegation battle.

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Sunday, 22 May 2011 13:30 (fourteen years ago)

Is it worth having a Scottish off-season thread or shall we just all stick to the same one once the English leagues & Champs League are done?

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Sunday, 22 May 2011 13:32 (fourteen years ago)

Dunno, maybe just stick with the generic off-season one, then start a new thread when the season kicks off again?

Staggered that McLean and Nevin felt the need to have a go at the Celtic support. Must have missed the bit where they gave it to the Rangers party tunes at the last cup final. Oh no, wait, that was a gala occasion. My bad.

Apparently Rod Stewart was behind the 'In Lennon We Trust' plane.

Delighted with the cup win, not so much with SPT. I feel sick, and am blaming the soaking I got on the way to the pub rather than the gallons of overpriced Guinness consumed when I got there.

Kudos to the dude who tried to start a 'Something Inside So Strong' chant on the train (didn't work), and also the dudes in the pub with the "Commentator's Eye" tshirts. "he's got tae go, he's got to get tae fuck". Quality. I want one.

ailsa, Sunday, 22 May 2011 13:46 (fourteen years ago)

I got into central at 5.50. Got train fae queens park,as is my wont after games at hampden. Sorry to rub it in,haha.

Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:17 (fourteen years ago)

These things even out over the course of a season.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4415/spl2011.jpg

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Monday, 23 May 2011 21:03 (fourteen years ago)

:)

I see Alastair Johnston has been removed from the board of directors at Ibrox.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13518277.stm

Also, buried halfway down the article, Martin Bain and Donald McIntyre (financial director, hmmmm) have been suspended. That's more interesting to me at any rate, more interesting than "Whyte gets shot of the blokes who didn't want him". What's the enquiry into then, eh? EH? Enquiring minds want to know (and I bet the Celtic research dude on Twitter will be on it).

ailsa, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 11:52 (fourteen years ago)

What's the enquiry into then, eh? EH? Enquiring minds want to know

Except Martin Bain doesn't want us to. So I'm sure we'll find out via Twitter in due course.

ailsa, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 10:22 (fourteen years ago)

There's a Scotland game on tonight, btw. Are we all excited? Did we even remember?

ailsa, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 10:22 (fourteen years ago)

Well done Scotland in looking very good in defeat half a Wales team in a meaningless tie in an empty Irish stadium. Press reaction not far away from pre 78 World Cup confidence.

Yesterday was the 44th Birthday of the Lisbon Lions. Just saw this on twitter:
FRONT
http://i54.tinypic.com/2qa4hle.jpg
BACK
http://i53.tinypic.com/2e5pqvr.jpg

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Thursday, 26 May 2011 10:02 (fourteen years ago)

There's a Scotland game on tonight, btw. Are we all excited? Did we even remember?

Listened to it on the radio... and actually got quite into it! Bring on the Irishes!!!!!!!!

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2011 10:49 (fourteen years ago)

I quite enjoyed the second half. Scotland brought on someone I really genuinely have never actually heard of (Grant Hanley). Not much of a test against half a Welsh team, but will be interesting-ish to see how we do against Ireland.

That postcard is awesome.

ailsa, Thursday, 26 May 2011 12:38 (fourteen years ago)

Half a Welsh team featuring Celtic's new right back (how many's that now?) Adam Matthews for a bit.

ailsa, Thursday, 26 May 2011 12:39 (fourteen years ago)

COME ON LADS YOU CAN DO IT.

(i feel the need to work up a bit of excitement before football disappears for the summer. it's not going very well.)

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 29 May 2011 17:41 (fourteen years ago)

Changes afoot at Hampden:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/13673776.stm

(spot the deliberate mistake in the reporting of the refereeing situation last season, also the mention of Shug's indiscretions being listed in the middle of a catalogue of Celtic's tiresome moanings, rather than being an entirely separate disciplinary issue, with a wee "oh aye, and Rangers appealed some decisions" tagged on the end for "balance")

Glad to see the back of Peat and his stupid dinosaur and his general idiocy. Not convinced Ogilvie will be any better, mind...

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:10 (fourteen years ago)

I assume that article's been updated since then as none of that stuff is there now.

Hopefully Hugh Keevins was talking out of his arse this morning with "McFadden to Celtic" and "Kayal to Bolton". Those two transfers would imo make us worse than we were when Lennon took over.

reverse the jelly baby of the neutron flow (onimo), Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:35 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, totally different article. Old one said that the Craven/MacDonald incident arose after a penalty award to Dundee United, then listed several incidents of Celtic being uppity (with a wee mention of Hugh Dallas's email scandal contained in that section which was otherwise about Celtic) and causing the refereeing strike by questioning integrity (no mention of anyone else questioning integrity, or the fact that, y'know, some referees had told big fibs and anyone could justifiably have a moan about their integrity as a result). Brief cursory "btw, Rangers also employed a QC to appeal the punishments to two of their players during the Shame Game" tagged on the end, with no mention of the actual punishments, crimes, or results of appeal. Still, balance innit.

James McFadden to Celtic is so ten years ago. Do. Not. Want. Also, seriously, I might cry if Kayal goes. Hopefully Keevins is talking pish. Won't be the first time - still remember his shameful exclusive about Scott Brown leaving based on, well, absolutely nothing.

ailsa, Thursday, 9 June 2011 11:36 (fourteen years ago)

(might be slightly misremembering the article, but there was definitely more emphasis on Celtic's supposed misdemeanours, and they did say that it was a penalty award to Dundee United that started the fibbing. I wouldn't be surprised if the accompanying picture wasn't Lenny snarling at McCoist, but I'm not claiming that it was)

ailsa, Thursday, 9 June 2011 11:59 (fourteen years ago)

Bobba "he was shite but now he's better" Petta considering coming out of retirement to play for Alloa.

http://sport.scotsman.com/football/Petta-considers-return-with-Alloa.6784056.jp

He's four years younger than David Weir so he might still do a job...

blood on this hand (onimo), Monday, 13 June 2011 12:05 (fourteen years ago)

Blimey. Glad he mentions that his fitness is fine, not much of an advert for his personal training business otherwise, is it?

Nearly brought up my lunch today when reading part of the serialisation of Walter Smith: Legned's book today in the Herald.

ailsa, Monday, 13 June 2011 12:54 (fourteen years ago)

Radio reports Scott Brown being tied up to a new deal to fend off a £6m bid from Newcastle (whose manager thinks the SPL is shit and doesn't test players).

Kayal apparently giving it "th£y have to $how th£y r£ally want m£" over his new deal.

I think I'd be happy to punt Brown and show Kayal the money.

some greenzo (onimo), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 13:08 (fourteen years ago)

Agree. Think Scott Brown's looked good this year, but think Kayal makes the midfield he's looked good in.

ailsa, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

Fat Gaz back at Hibs.

ailsa, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

It'll be a bit weird seeing O'Connor line up with Sproule and Riordan - so much for that old adage about never going back.

Oh, Ian Murray as well - Hibs team full of former Hibs players :/

some greenzo (onimo), Friday, 17 June 2011 08:59 (fourteen years ago)

Wait, did Deek leave? He's not listed in Hibs squad on wiki.

some greenzo (onimo), Friday, 17 June 2011 09:00 (fourteen years ago)

Good wee "where did it all nearly go right?" thing on Hibs' starlets on 2004 - Stephen Dobbie, Garry O’Connor, Derek Riordan and Tam McManus.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/hibernian/old-enough-to-know-better-but-still-young-enough-to-succeed-1.1107168

some greenzo (onimo), Friday, 17 June 2011 09:04 (fourteen years ago)

Fixtures out. No New Year derby game, instead it's on the Wednesday night between Christmas and New Year. Brilliant :/

Still, wee result as I've got a couple of things I can't get out of later in the year and we're away for both of them.

ailsa, Friday, 17 June 2011 09:31 (fourteen years ago)

How come our visit to Ibrox is still at a weekend? Wasn't the Summit supposed to have recommended moving all 'Old Firm' games to weekends? Or is it only when it inconveniences Celtic fans?

some greenzo (onimo), Friday, 17 June 2011 09:37 (fourteen years ago)

By visit I mean visits, both of them currently scheduled for Saturdays.

some greenzo (onimo), Friday, 17 June 2011 09:38 (fourteen years ago)

I was so drunk last night I think I convinced myself this morning that I'd made this whole Gordon Smith thing up to wind up pub Huns. It's a thing though. Ex-head-Hun in charge of the SFA, ex-head-SFA in charge of the Huns. Magic.

ailsa, Saturday, 18 June 2011 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

How come our visit to Ibrox is still at a weekend? Wasn't the Summit supposed to have recommended moving all 'Old Firm' games to weekends? Or is it only when it inconveniences Celtic fans?

CQN running with the allegation that the New Year game was switched to avoid paying the polis double time on a public holiday (see also Easter Sunday rather than Easter Monday last time out).

ailsa, Monday, 20 June 2011 13:51 (fourteen years ago)

Vlad's back in some style:

http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/20110624/hearts-statement_2241384_2381659

ailsa, Friday, 24 June 2011 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

The Hearts Board of Directors has issued the following statement in relation to outside influences on players and the club.
"What's happening with the club today is not a new thing. For almost 7 years we have been fighting to shield the club from crooks, criminals and thieves. Many of the top players at the club have felt the bitter results of the swindles that have been carried out with them on their own skin. Skacel and Webster have returned to the club after realising where these 'football patriots' have led them.

"Over a short space of time 4 players at our club have been on the wrong end of the law. We note that 3 of them are represented by the same agent - Gary Mackay - who has been so vicious in his attacks against Mr Romanov.

"Taking into account the facts that have been omitted by the media it can be presumed that each of these cases is not a coincidence, but the result of targeted actions of a mafia that wants to manipulate the club and the results.
"Every year Hearts fights to be in the top 3, but even last season in the last 12 games of the season it was almost like someone replaced the team with a different one. Whose fault is that? Players? Manager's? Or it is mafia.
"Stealing players, bad games, problems with the law - all of that on top of record SFA fines. Problems are just shifted to another level.
"Mafia are dragging kids into the crime, in order to blackmail and profit on them. It is not possible to separate these people from pedophiles, and you don't need to do that. Each year we are forced to fight against these maniacs harder and harder. We are standing in their way not letting them manipulate the game of football in the way they want. As such they undermine us in every possible way they can.
"The task of the club is to tear these kids out of hands of criminals."

ailsa, Friday, 24 June 2011 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

i posted it in rolling wtf thread because i didn't think it should languish in our provincial thread, but i don't think that gets much traffic either. it's really a must read for anyone who likes laughing.

Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Friday, 24 June 2011 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

Was toying with the idea of a separate Vlad thread years ago, around the time of the monkeys stuff. Guy needs a wider audience than the SPL thread, def.

ailsa, Friday, 24 June 2011 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Getting near time for a new thread with the season kicking off in less than two weeks. Title suggestions anyone? Will we make it a generic Scottish football thread now rather than SPL?

Was toying with "Summits, Sex Offenders and Shite Football" but figured no-one would want that open in a tab at their work.

ailsa, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 14:16 (fourteen years ago)

"There's no grass on it - Scottish football in 2011"

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 14:21 (fourteen years ago)

Scottish football 2010 - Oh god not another year of this rubbish...

treefell, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 14:31 (fourteen years ago)

2011, even

treefell, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 14:31 (fourteen years ago)

"tearing our kids out of hands of criminals" - Scottish Football 2011

ailsa, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

Celtic B v the jags at fir hill 3pm,tenner at the gate. Apparently going to feature 45 minutes of EMILIO. Going solo like roald dahl.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 16 July 2011 09:34 (fourteen years ago)

Half thinking about that. Still in close-season mode though, can't believe we kick off next week.

ailsa, Saturday, 16 July 2011 09:38 (fourteen years ago)

Aye it's ridiculous. Not complaining too much tho,my life is p empty without it!

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 16 July 2011 09:43 (fourteen years ago)

"tearing our kids out of hands of criminals" - Scottish Football 2011

― ailsa, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:22 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^seconding this.

Hi thread. I've been away. Have we signed or sold a left back?

some greenzo (onimo), Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

no.

izaguirre looked like he'd gained a few during the off-season today.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 17 July 2011 02:03 (fourteen years ago)

"Tearing our kids out of hands of criminals" - rolling Scottish football 2011/12 thread

Have at it.

ailsa, Sunday, 17 July 2011 10:45 (fourteen years ago)


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