Greatest goal ever

half thinking about this being a nomination thread for above, in the vein of the greatest tv shows and greatest movies threads (not the knockout format used for foods/canon etc).

But y'know, all the others seem like a lot of work, and a lot to live up to, so i'm not committing myself or anything :)

youtubes obviously welcome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2BFWtCBdGY

the best goal ever

Go for it Darragh, but keep noms limited to five or ten each - the dance music polls are going very wrong in this regard.

Will wrack(?) brains etc.

Yeah do a proper poll, limited nominations I think.

Matt- I did see that other thread but tbh it didn't seem to fit the dedicated purpose of a nomination thread tbf.

IK- i bow to your experience in these things, and yeah i hadn't forseen a huge amount of individual nominations but tbh i've got a bit of time during the weeks this next while so i'm going to let it run and see how it goes.

comedy nominations such as lj's will be weighed up before acceptance however.

blurbs would be good with nominations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSarLt2hSzo

One of the greatest examples of vision allied to execution that has graced a football pitch.

my fucking shitting mind is blown

lj is this in retaliation for your 'i'm drinking everything once' thread?

no but it is now :D

5 nominations each, i think. should concentrate the mind, and it seems like plenty? (given that there'll be loads of duplicates?). then the usual ballot of the list produced and countdown of the top 50 etc?

That Bergkamp goal is probably my favourite ever. I think because with almost all goals, no matter how brilliant, they are always imaginable. I'll be watching on TV and yell "shoot" even if it's from some improbable distance or urge someone to hit a volley off a spinning ball even though the odds of getting it on target are massively against. With that Bergamp goal however, I was watching the match and it literally never for one second crossed my mind that he would do that in that way. Incredible!

Plus even if it's really obvious the van Basten Euro '88 Final goal has some of that quality also.

post it!

tho if you want to take time to think it over that's cool too :)

and yeah, the brevity of the bergkamp goal is part of what makes it so stunning- "oh look i've done this" and every single person watching it for the first time reaches for the rewind button.

terry venables didn't even give bergkamp's goal Goal Of The Day on ITV's Premiership show

that honour went to chris marsden vs ipswich

Why's anyone even bothering to debate?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVcIR6ftJuk

because di canio's volley was better!

(tho that was from a sinclair assist tbf)

scholes goal that weekend one fo the greats too, but not worthy of this thread i don't think.

paul breitner in the 74 (?) world cup is hovering around the edges of my consciousness, as are a couple of the team goals from the dutch in that tournament

glenn hoddle and matt le tiss will get one spot each, but my ignorance of other leagues and maybe lack of historical knowledge will let me down. hopefully we'll discover a football morbs along the way to berate us for our MOR picks and broaden our horizons

that'll be me. but after i've had lunch

self proclaimed football morbs.

heavy mantle imo

look, the video title even says so:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VSOpeYqgSI

lets get some the obvious ones out of the way first

maradona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk-kXwjASEE&feature=related

tony yeboah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vmf9UsV23E

take your pick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSsdfe4Z69g

some incredibly half-assed tackles going in here tbh but ill nom. it nevertheless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMnR1QM5Te4

can't decide if sam's are likely to be all 90's-00's gunner efforts or if he's gonna have a trove of CM4 legends previously looked up for research purposes ready to blow our minds with (that ibrahimovic goal for ajax suffers badly from 'shit opposition' syndrome tho, imo, and will lose its way if nominated for ballot)

michael b knows what's up imo, get er lit

jabba that's awesome

more info pls, if nominating!

glenn hoddle and matt le tiss will get one spot each

Hoddle v Watford 1983? Cos that is my 'just say the first answer that comes into your head' response to this qu and has been since I was football-sentient

I'll try to keep up the Scottish football end of things here. Currently I'm thinking:

Archie Gemmill v Holland 1978
Shunsuke Nakamura v Rangers 2008

and some other obvious candidates (James McFadden v France, David Narey v Brazil, John Hartson v Liverpool) which, while undoubtedly favourites of mine, aren't really Best Goal Ever candidates.

I'll get back to you when I get home from work and have a wee think.

the turn and chip? yeah, i'd not be as certain that's my #1 as you are, but it's up there on merit, definitely

hoping against hope that van der vaart is the closest we've come in a long time to that kind of firepower in midfield, btw

(xp)

Archie Gemmill REPRESENT

sorry mine was mick channon for southampton vs liverpool in 1982....his last goal for the club iirc

i'll have to narrow down an irish goal in my 5 too, because fuckit local flavour etc.

whelan vs russians, houghton vs italians would be standouts but houghton's prob not in 'greatest goal ever' stakes

xp properly awesome goal, the kind of thing i'd be hoping for from this thread tbh

think my noms might go along the lines of - fav irish goal, fav spurs goal, fav long range, fav pure skills, random pick - or suchlike, just to make it easier to pick.

remember this, darragh? 2:27 - 2:39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdWVc8j4P44

Never seen jabba's before but o_O what a goal!

My dad's favourite goal ever is a Billy McNeill header against Vojvodina in 1967 when Celtic were en route to the European Cup Final. I must try and find that somewhere (youtubing time limited at work), but I do refuse to believe that a header will win dis ting.

i remember that one michael but i'm not even sure it's mcateer's best for ireland, he scored an opener against oh i dunno macedonia or someone that was a peach drive early on in kerr's tenure (pulling all of these facts out of the air tbh)

a header will not win dis ting

a header will almost certainly win the partner poll 'Best OG ever' (Frank Sinclair I'm looking at you here bud)

this deathly boring thread idea is another great advert for i love football, kudos

happy with zamora let's leave it at that

maybe there'll be an 'i love whinging' board some day, eh?

with a dedicated football thread and everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6soG_agvQZc

NOW YOU'RE TALKING

that bergkamp one... i actually don't like it tbh, it's the only goal i can think of that scares me a bit. it's sinister

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk9RinZAE1Q

^ Was looking for some Peter Lorimer goal from way back, found this epic Eddie Gray one instead

you're one step away from saying 'commie' there

e gray one's good.

peter osgood has to have a youtube thread somewhere

bobby charlton's long range drives too boringly inevitable? feel like scholes will suffer the same fate- oh woo another volley from a corner, where's the imagination

Quality of opposition? Check.
Team involvement? Check
Individual endeavour? Check
Sweet fnish? Check?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wiPgqG4Ark

Brilliant individual skill, this time against QPR. Falls down on quality of opposition, of course. The ball would never have reached Maynard if QPR could have defended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCsfGkrqDQk

first one's class. approve of QC test also.

falls down on barnets tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSwilt4kfFM

and for the commentary alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exlBHTyB1R0

an ashley cole goal for arsenal against villa a few years back was another beautiful team move

i can't really be in and out of youtube so i'll look later.

xp- good examples of great goals elevated by context too

Rod Wallace. This was a sweet one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nzbsdFGl04

ha yes, that's a good one tho quality of opposition very fucking questionable

Haha, did that commentator have an actual orgasm watching the Bergkamp goal?

your boys took a hell of a beating-off?

That Rod Wallace goal makes me think of *that* Giggs goal v Gunners 1999

makes me think of david nugent!

here are Ailsa's goals for the uninitiated:

Gemmill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1axsnMRbbo

Nakamura:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVLXW7-IscQ

(had a wee look for the Billy McNeill one but I can't find it.)

i hadn't considered 'that' giggs goal as yet. hmmmm. context again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quI_LkMj4HI

^ seen it a million times, the hairy lad does great though

henrik's goal against rangers in the 5-1 is a thing of majesty, too

del piero's cried only twice in his adult life- birth of son and at giggs' goal, apparently

let's get RECENT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN6zTox-hhk

ahahaha pissing myself @ mortal kombat music over rod wallace goal

messi may get his own separate thread, just to fuck off lj

surely he deserves two separate threads, maybe three

we can take him off of here and rename it 'greatest goal ever apart from those couple dozen by Messi'.

thread needs more shit like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnmsERstpHw

and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8dCPT4puo8

just warming up btw

oh has this not been done yet?

it's better than bergkamp's. it's like bergkamp 2.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdVzzvMEG08

I think Bergkamp still has the edge because I can at least understand the mechanics of the Gourcuff goal whereas Bergkamp's is sheer witchcraft, but ey not bad eh.

That Messi v Zaragoza was the first time I laughed hysterically at a goal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16ZOK3sR9WQ

^ lol Hoddle, amazing touch though

Thanks Merdeyeux. For twinned-with-commentary lolz, James McFadden v France can only be shown if it has Peter Martin-Maguire's insane screaming on Radio Clyde played over the top as that elevates it into classic territory.

I toyed with Larsson's chip over Stefan Klos as well, btw.

Blah blah poll blah blah but can I just point out that if people nominate in the form of Youtube only then it's impossible to CTRL F and make sure you're not repeating earlier noms?

we require staunch research and careful reading of other contributions to this thread. no apologies.

let's get a little more obscure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10dQQDK1RKY

and on that theme, here's the best world cup goal ever, no argument

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy4IatYSTQU

the argument is that maradona vs england is better

Y'know what? Justin Fashanu at least deserves a nomination. Pour one out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owCt1dGrK2E

dalian atkinson, was it? 1993 run and chip for villa?

fashanu was on crazy bonuses to score, hence shots from anywhere

used it in a HR project once, as a classic example of rewarding the wrong type of behaviour iirc

Did u use a video of that goal as a counter-example?

would have been counterproductive in context of my point tbh. if the lecturer did her research then it would explain the shitty mark though, it's true

'i refute it *thus*' kinda thing

hahaha

Excuse the derail but I just got a vision of Johnson turning to Berkeley and going "RONG!"

Sweet xp even if it's not the best world cup goal ever. However, world cups in Mexico *are* the best world cups.

another thread!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0eUq-orqLE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3HcdvHbtN4

not feeling pato tbh

I thought about putting that last one here but there's only so much masochism a man can undertake

best goals against charlton will be my first thread on ILFootie

best arsenal goals against charlton could genuinely be a thread of its own

this deathly boring thread idea is another great advert for i love football, kudos

happy with zamora let's leave it at that

― r|t|c, Monday, 20 September 2010 13:07 (1 hour ago)

this is a lil bit harsh, nothing wrong w/ a thread of great goals but polling it is a bit bargain dvd 'best goals ever' comprised of 90s prem and a few outliers

the idea of a greatest ever goal is kinda absurd so i posted two i rly like that clearly aren't 'the greatest'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDD89Gbo5hw

I WAS THERE

well the value was always going to be in this thread tbh, i may not follow through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI6FzAPyTcY

ok class

shd have posted that as the first....

rly!

there are a lot of great recent goals w/ crap quality youtube clips

seperate thread!

i have spelled separate any way i wanted to all day today i feel as glam as a little shampoo model

glad you called yourself on that

u've a fuckin cheek you've clearly spelled cambirdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun incorrectly in ur DN

kept it faithful to del's original creation tbh

Can't really participate until I get near a computer that can handle youtubes. I'm not nominating this one, but here (I hope) is one from last night that had Jibe and I simultaneously (I imagine) punching things with frustration then delight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ_3SWjOvEU

Also, is nakh's nomination above van Persie's in-off-the-shin volley at The Valley? Because that saves me a slot if so.

of course it is that goal

yeah off the shin fluke, glad u pointed that out!

Shin or no, it's still one of the greatest goals of all time.

so proud it happened on the hallowed turf <3

wouldn't make le tiss top 10

wouldn't make steven reid top 3 tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q090EJ6B7Lk

love that fat lazy genius

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vp1OvDUGUA

2:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Bdie7q3LU

similarly

fuckit, i'll allow it

:D

gotta have that ovechkin falling-wrong-way back-of-stick goal as well in that case

I wanted to be Bobby Orr as a kid.

to b orr not to b orr

xpost to IK about Jussie goal: that goal did not have me punching anything with delight. With frustration yeah, but not delight. But tbh as a fan of Lyon, I was punching things in frustration basically from the start of the game onwards.
Also, not nominating this but I still like that "goal", especially for Platini's reaction afterwards (quick search shows only shitty youtubes of said goal, sorry, start at 50sec mark and go till you see Platini around the 1:30 mark):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63mpjgVXnwk&p=CA41A3A72F2CD34A&index=8

Had he scored it today, his goal would have been allowed.

Yeah sorry, I feel your pain.

ah that's different class style

ginola's juggle, juggle, WHAM for newcastle in the UEFA cup is kind of similar in style?

VdV has a few beauties

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx3ldRNzWM

breitner 10-19 secs

<3 platini. not so much <3 edman, but still:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP7z7SXQnrY

oh man that goal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGLffPzKi6g&p=788A6B5F206DE704&playnext=1&index=3

Love this goal, they make it look so easy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUBXHXY_-9k

1. Diego Maradona
Argentina v Greece, World Cup first round 1994

I was going to pick this anyway just for being so cool, but there's some gorgeous one-touch interplay in almost no space beforehand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCanx-yBPFg

2. Zinedine Zidane
Real Madrid v Bayer Leverkusen, European Cup Final 2002

Jawdropping that he even tried it. Just watch him waiting for it to drop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWujLMH1N8w

3. Fabio Grosso
Italy v Germany, World Cup Semi Final 2006

119th minute of the most beautiful goalless game ever. Talk about stepping up. It's not just about context though - fabulous shot, and some great celebrations. (and even then, the del Piero goal a minute later is still the one that gives me the shivers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twx2NHwSH38

4. Alan Shearer
England v Holland, European Championships first round 1996

Jonathan Wilson's The Anatomy of England turned me onto this. Wonderful move dragging the dutch around, and Sheringham's feint is exquisite. If only it wasn't Shearer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG0i0aK8LOs

5. Jared Borgetti
Mexico v Italy, World Cup first round 2002

It's so outrageous you can't believe he meant it, but there's nothing else he could've been attempting here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD80XYD1FvU

5A. Steven Gerrard
Liverpool v West Ham, FA Cup Final 2006

Just about the sweetest strike ever. Cruel on West Ham, but hey.

a bit rockist but they're all pretty good

I'm all about the big stage, matey. Guessing you'll have the lo-fi end covered anyway.

eeh, you've just reminded me - Clint Dempsey v Juventus, 2010

yr not gonna get much better than this tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWEmtar6Xz8

a few of my favorites

golazo to win the gold cup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcGA2W4d5_E

blanco on fake grass w/ gridiron lines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcfBSZbX22E

preki vs brazil 'cos it's the only time usa ever beat them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jYiUwR9t_w

here's one from the archives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NLueHEhKTc

for sheer moment - 3rd goal of this hattrick, I remember my pint going all over the living room - beautiful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro9dA0rKLzw

here's the greatest GOTS contest ever in any league - it's a kinda 'how to volley' compendium but don't let that dissuade you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTMY72Lj2Ic

that's all in one season, folks

i thought this was gonna be about hockey.

http://particle.physics.ucdavis.edu/Graphics/Canada/Orr.jpeg

Jeez, that Rivaldo hattrick ... to think he's remembered mostly for chasing $ and clutching his face.

Question: I had wanted to put up a great big barrelling header because they're my favourite sort of goal*. Borgetti's is amazing but not exactly of that type. I had been sure Joe Jordan's against Czechoslovakia in 1973 was a classic, but from the 4-second(!) youtube clip, which doesn't even show the goal properly ffs, it doesn't look all that. I've got a memory of seeing him in a b&w photo making a towering leap to head in for Scotland and I thought it was then - what might I be thinking of instead?

* though volleys clean up in the 'most amazing things ever' category tbh

Matt Taylor's scored some beauties in his time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvC_NbVPWk

thought about that one although it possibly wasn't the best goal of its MONTH

(best GOTM coming up)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzUyYOCKzcE

btw ismael found this looking for 'vieri header'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3ufW4aZA0Q

oh my, turns out that's as good a headers compilation you'll see, the one at 1:10 makes for a great slo-mo but my favourite is probably the one at 2:48

Oh good work - will check that out when I get back onto a faster computer. Til then I'll just have to daydream of Andy Carroll.

i'd never seen that hearts goal before - just chuckled at the showboating at first but it was the only goal of the game?? in the last few minutes?

pretty sound ploy really - drew the furious defender right out of position

exactly - and there's something about the cosmic provenance of that leading to a goal which makes it truly inspired

haha

"By great good fortune the TV cameras didn't track Tommy for the celebrations which was just as well because he must have run 30 yards up the ash track at Ibrox giving two fingers to the Rangers fans."

My favorite header... Came only three days after he'd scored a header against AC Milan to win the CL. maybe not the best but it is quite impressive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMct3rBJb5k

(again sorry for shitty quality)

prefer his song w/ waddle tbh

lovely header tho

nothing beats sinclair

just 4u ronan here is my fave liverpool goal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TNb57ZNuWQ

porkpie otm, that is one of the great goals for sure.

patrick mbomba (sp?) was one of the purest headers of a football i've ever seen, he'd maybe be worth looking up.

sorry for quality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRbwdVb6vrA

bow down. i'm not picking any out, except the lob against flowers and the obvious backheel over himself beat three men tapin maybe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSsdfe4Z69g

so many great hockey goals are really hard to see

and i'm not kidding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNj6VFaLCd0

<3 (ffwd to 1:30 for the shot)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRoNqiiY6Lg&feature=related

haha, OK, that Hearts v Rangers thing <3 <3 <3

I think the Billy McNeill one my dad's always going on about is the one about 1:10 into this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMnFrVk1rrM

Not best ever but C. Ronaldo's header against Roma is pretty memorable just in the way he appears out of nowhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LvkTkA1Dng

The best goal I've actually witnessed with my own eyes is the Andy Goal overhead kick at about 4:21 on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyuQpnfoXPA

Any John Barnes itt yet?

DON'T MENTION HIS NAME WHEN CELTIC ARE PLAYING CALEY THISTLE IN THE CUP TOMORROW KTHANXBYE

do it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XONWAITML4Yom/watch?v=XONWAITML4Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3GkoWKO56A

i'd imagine it took a lot to curve the industrial steel footballs they used in britain in the 70's this much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3ARNPVf7jQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sXeSnpNyrs

vazques ribona, obviously

swap s and z there, also obviously

um, we're not playing tomorrow, I got all carried away there. Ignore me.

Sorry if somebody already posted. This is def. my fave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgqsaDnsEq8

na i slagged it earlier!

ibra's best is coming up, just for you....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sdDmiv2SCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SCyXGiJ-jc

^ john barnes v brazil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrPj4Me4CZ8

^ gerrard v middlesborough

this wll never not make me want to hit a football immediately upon watching it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVVSOGLyAcU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRMtPojA4vE

ha you're on some real 'kill the art' kind of trip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JHSXkD98_k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUh-NcHi5ug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbASd5CU3H8&feature=related

Have we had that Saudi Arabia goal?

Ibrahimovic Ajax goal still the best, how dare you suggest that NAC Breda are not a quality team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQXrMbArqSs&feature=related

i'd post r carlos' free kick but tbh i feel it's been sullied by the 150341 attempts that ballooned wildly over or wide in teh rest of his carer.

I've seen at least two goals where he's smashed in from out wide on or near the byline

that's still only 1 goal in every 50113.66 attempts tbf

I also saw a counter-counter-factual stat once to the effect that his scoring rate from free-kicks was higher than Beckham's - not that I believed it for a second, I'm just saying there's more than one school of thought here.

Now that you raise the issue, the very concept of a free kick expert whose particular skill is 'hitting the ball really hard' is kind of odd, no? It's hardly a remarkable trait among professional footballers.

i enjoy those fachts as much as the next person, but let's be real- how does his assist rate stack up with Beckham's from set plays? Because Carlos never did nuthin but sprint and batter it, whereas Beckham was a trajectory machine.

He is still with us.

Well, this is what I'm getting at- Carlos hit the air tube or w/e that one time, it went around the world, he got the rep, nobody ever pulled him aside and said 'enough's enough with the 'R1, d-pad fwd and holding down the square button to max free kicks, son'.

They both are, actually.

yeah on an unrelated note i approve the shit out of players going all over the place after their peak- power to them if it keeps the equivalent of a local jenas out of a team somewhere

The whole thing proved a bit of a dilemma really. Great goal etc, and in principle that justifies everything. Of course there came a point a couple of years later where you realised that no matter how often he tried it it was never going to happen again. The problem then arose a couple years after that when pundits & commentators twigged to the same thing and eg Ron Atkinson starts treating him as a figure of fun. So of course you find yourself willing it to be otherwise - I'm sure that implausible stat was employed by me on many an occasion even though I always knew it had to be bollocks.

You're just saying that to get rid of Robbie Keane back up to the SPL, aren't you?

xpost

not specifically, ailsa, but i mean if you think it's help then ya sure why not

stuff like that really makes me feel like I've lost my moral bearings sometimes wrt footy (xp to self)

ha didn't read that before dashing off to lunch.

essentially, it was actually a once-in-a-lifetime goal. i do think his coaches ought to have had a go at him within say a season of trying to emulate it and therefore wasting 80% of all setpieces within 45 yards of goal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDCCJxHXKH0
Here's the byline goal for reference. He's never meant it though has he?

i waver on that one but i favour that he did- see above discussion on r carlos's attitude to 'having a fackin go'

seedorf from the halfway line or near it is in that category

this one ain't bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqBvNYnAXBw

also HAPPY ILF DAY EVERYONE

Love the commentator's yelling. And great goal too obv

dunno what has been posted in the 'show all messages' and don't want to spend yet another day of my life watching beautiful goals but i'll nom these five, sorry if they've already come

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y-Y56PQlNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdy5fKdLvL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP9t8FI_bTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPNjELcdyUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oHL0am0Q84

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjq2xT-tx38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q5-ANGlhuM

^ making me nostalgic for the MOTD 60's 70's & 80's boxset an ex-future father-in-law cadged off me a week before the relationship went tits-up. i reckon he fucking knew something i didn't tbph