Most ridiculous choice in the Premiership managers' Team of the Decade

NEVILLE

didn't look any further down

thinking of individual GTFness and not the sheer horrible unworkability of that as a team btw

Is van der Sar really the best the Prem. has to offer?

i doubt that too

I suppose he is "consistent"

was gonna say that about vds but thought i'd be accused of partisan bias. surely in 10 years there have been better keepers than him, probably several.

also wasn't shearer at the ass end of his career by 2000 or so? lampard can feel hard done by too, even if people do hate him here. he's prob scored more goals in 10 or 11 years at chelsea than scholes or giggs have in their entire careers. i know it's not all about goals but still...

Stevie Me holding on by his fingernails too, IMO

has to be Ratboy

Giggs is a ridiculous pick really but then i started trying to think of great Premier League LMs.

Hmm - vds, Mr X, wasn't Shearer a crock by then?
Alright - the rest, not really interesting enough to disagree with tbh.

Wait, why do 'team of the decade' in May 2011? This isn't ILF.

dont understand ronans vds hate (other than he plays for united of course), he is pretty solid. cech was better there for a while until he got concussed. given is better but he got shafted at city.

Doesn't seem right that there are so many English players in there, not very Premiership

Is Terry better than Rio?

Or just too many Man Utd players already?

I imagine a Shearer/Drogba pairing just standing in the centre circle butting each other like angry stags.

Haha, by my reckoning this XI has Scholes in the Makelele role.

Premiership X of the decade, three minutes in.

English referees not allowed, so Vidic makes it Premiership IX of the decade at some point

henry for shearer, and that list is fine besides

Henry. Doh!!!!

Keane? Vieira?

Just looked up Shearer's stats and hey, he did still have three good seasons left in him in the decade. The things google autosuggest comes up with, though.

GK: Edwin van der Sar - can't complain, only Cech has really come close to matching him
RB: Gary Neville - struggling to think of better right-backs
CB: Nemanja Vidic - yep
CB: John Terry - Carvalho instead
LB: Ashley Cole - yep
RM: Cristiano Ronaldo - obv
CM: Steven Gerrard - Lampard instead
CM: Paul Scholes - yep
LM: Ryan Giggs - who would the haters have instead?
S: Didier Drogba - yes obviously
S: Alan Shearer - come on, I fucking hate Thierry Henry and even I know he should be in this team over Shearer. So should Van Nistelrooy. Even Rooney would be better.

Shearer 188 (84)
Drogba 197 (95)

Henry 223 (157)
V Nistelrooy 150 (95)

Boringly enough I'll have to cosign Matt DC's team, and reasoning. Shearer's 3 seasons over Henry is utter utter madness. Lampard also merits his place and this is coming from a Liverpool fan FFS!

Actually what were the Stam years? Was it end of 90's?

Tend to think that Stam, Keane, Viera etc probably suffer for being at their peak in the late 90s/early 00s, but that hasn't stopped Shearer getting in here.

Stick Zola in there as well.

gerrard/scholes not as a partnership but as individuals, yeah. Only lampard really challenges over ten years.

obv lfc bias here but reina's gotta be up there with the best keepers.

Think Reina's arguably been more consistent than Cech but Cech's highs are maybe higher?

It should definitely be Cech, van der sar's only there by retirement goodwill

would say reina over vds over cech

Consistency above all else in gk

yeah matt makes a good point about shearer

CB: John Terry - Carvalho instead

S: Alan Shearer - come on, I fucking hate Thierry Henry and even I know he should be in this team over Shearer. So should Van Nistelrooy. Even Rooney would be better.

These two seem the most obvious to me. Terry has heart or whatever they call it; deeply sociopathic criminal tendencies but he's a good captain when he's not out of his friggin mind. Henry had a petulance at Arsenal that used to drive me crazy. Yes, he was an attacking player but if he didn't get any service, he would be nowhere to be seen; the opposite of Rooney for example who can be spied on the pitch in any number of weird places fighting for 'his' ball. It's a hard one 'cause I liked Shearer at points but if I had to choose between having Terry or Carvalho and having Shearer and even any number of other big lugs up front, I'd still probably opt for someone else up front.

i hate shearer with a passion.

But in no way is 8 years of rooney preferable to 3 or w/e of him

Henry was hardly some immobile target man who was helpless without "service." He made his goals, and everyone else's besides. He could be moody, so the fuck what.

Shearer's the ultimate English Centre Forward, so I can see why he's included

nat lofthouse

He could be moody, so the fuck what.

I think Henry was great but his moodiness combined with his teams' reliance on him cost them goals and sometimes games. I also didn't say he was immobile just that he was so committed to being forward that Arsenal's attack sometimes faltered (that and the fact that they often seem to be scared of taking a shot on target when some clever passing in front of goal is available).

Andy Carroll

manager?

Mourinho, grant or prob hodgson

Wenger. He can go back to managing adults for a change.

wenger? Would sell that lot and be playing diaby within a year

Sir Alex Ferguson's 2007/8 Manchester United side were chosen as the outstanding team of the decade, ahead of Arsenal's 2003/4 'Invincibles' and Jose Mourinho's 2005/6 title winners.

Voted for by managers like Mark Hughes, Steve Bruce and Alex McLeish, whose sides always roll over twice a season for the red-nosed old drunk's Utd team.

yeah that's utter nonsense tbf

00-01 utd side better than all of them, tho obv gk was an issue, but invincibles and chelsea of those years strides ahead of the ugly stepchild champions utd have served up intermittently since 2007 or whenever

Manager would surely surely be Ferguson and not close- you can't simultaneously claim both that United have been a talent-and-flair limited side since CR7 and that his isn't an astonishing achievement of motivation and cunning?

(haha I guess I stopped reading at Mourinho and didn't realise the others were lol suggestions - somehow Hodgson is still super legit in my mind)

all the elevens here, and the official one, are heavily coloured by the last 2/3 years of the decade.

plus like, if it's "of the decade" vidic has only been at man u since about 2005 or 2006? surely this opens the door for a whole host of players who were prominent from 2000-2005.

yeah it does, name one that had those five years like vidic has had the latter half.

I'm thinking maybe vieira, dunno after that

Again, sorry about the obvious LFC/anti-Hodgson bias here, but Nice Roy manager of the decade ***WTF***

00-01 FC Copenhagen
01 Udinese
02-04 United Arab Emirates
04-05 Viking
06-07 Finland

07-10 Fulham
10-11 lol
11 WBA

gp- yes, if i have to go on the record and explicitly state it, ferguson/webb/clattenberg are by some distance the managerial team of the decade.

plus like, if it's "of the decade" vidic has only been at man u since about 2005 or 2006? surely this opens the door for a whole host of players who were prominent from 2000-2005.

Like Shearer?

Most of the players in the XI have been good-to-great for at least five years of the last decade. Gerrard-Scholes-Giggs-Neville-Terry-Cole have careers that practically span the whole 10 years.

Pretty sure that most Premiership managers really hating Wenger has harmed a few Arsenal players' chances though.

chris you're just jealous cos at least 4 of those teams are better than rafa's liverpool

Ps it was not a serious suggestion

Pps pete's reaction to grant will be even worse

Think Mourinho's Chelsea win the best XI for sheer longevity, Robben and Duff notwithstanding.

dunno, think anyone who faded out about 2005 is just not near enough in the memory to be included in a stupid list.

x-post matt I was about to post LIKE ALAN SHEARER as a joke after i made that point, there are loads of more worthy candidates than him i'm sure, it's hard to bat for someone who's long gone versus someone we all saw last week.

lol eyes went straight to the hodge and missed grant tbh. xxp

Neither Roy nor Grant took a team down in the 00s. Not sure about Mourinho.

1. WHAT THE FUCK

2. GK: Edwin van der Sar - EW. Reina, Given, Seaman, Jussi and Cech all rate higher.
RB: Gary Neville - ...I guess? Seems wrong though. So very wrong.
CB: Nemanja Vidic - Fair 'nuf.
CB: John Terry - EW. Sol, Rio, Gallas, Carvalho, King, Hyppia, Lescott, Kompany all more deserving. EW.
LB: Ashley Cole - I guess he's been around longer than Evra.
RM: Cristiano Ronaldo - Fair 'nuf. Him being here makes it a 4-3-3 too, as the '00 team should be.
CM: Steven Gerrard - OH FUCK OFF. Both Xabi Alonso and Mascherano from his own fucking team are more worthy, not to mention...
CM: Paul Scholes - OH FUCK OFF PT. 2 ...Vieira, Makelele, Lampard, ESSIEN, Fletcher, Modric, CESC etc.
LM: Ryan Giggs - OH FUCKING HELL REALLY? PIRES ROBERT FUCKING PIRES? HEY GUYS, REMEMBER ROBERT FUCKING PIRES? Ok if not Pires how about ROBBEN? In all honesty I think I'd pick Ashley Young or Malouda over Giggs.
S: Didier Drogba - I guess so. Think van Nistelrooy maybe more deserving for the #2 spot for striker after Henry. Maybe pips Bergkamp. Also guess that Owen, Torres and Shearer deserve at least a mention, but none would really be worthy of playing next to Henry.
S: Alan Shearer - ...............
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I think I may be sick.

3. I'D TAKE FUCKING MARK VIDUKA OVER SHEARER. MARK FUCKING VIDUKA. OR YAKUBU. OR DEFOE. FUCKING
ALAN
FUCKING
SHEARER
BEAT
THIERRY
HENRY
ON
WHAT
FUCKING
PLANET
DO
THESE
PEOPLE
LIVE
FFS
BOMB THE FUCKING LOT

4. No Essien was a disgrace.
No Pires even more so.
No Cech or Reina is pretty disgusting.
Vieira and Cesc and Lampard ignored?
BUT FOR FUCKING ALAN SHEARER?

^^^ Basically what I started the thread for.

Clearly everyone in football management hates Wenger. They pretend to love Arsenal, but secretly they despise them.

Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink over Viduka btw.

Also lol Kompany.

Hahahaha. And yes, boy do they hate Wenger. Even Dalglish.

dunno i mostly agree with sam's rage...apart from i think you're all fucking nuts if you exclude gerrard. scholes should be out for lampard tho, or vieira. he was a brilliant player but has no consistency in the 00s.

could prob argue roy keane more deserving than scholes, if we must have a man u player there. and that's not an irishman speaking, i've no great love for the psychotic corkman.

you guys are nutso for going against VDS. check his record, 605 played and only 1 conceded
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_van_der_Sar

i accept that's a fairly good record but he had great defences in front of him throughout his career

that goal wasn't even conceded this decade to boot

lucky for him, he had an absolute nightmare that day. conceded one but could have been two.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/EvdS.jpg/270px-EvdS.jpg

Not your typical wikipicture, I'm liking it

sam

Yr rant is fun but mainly nonsensical.

Too many of yr alternatives had patchy decades, with one or two good seasons.

Scholes better than fabregas for prob 7 years of the decade, that's being kind

Vieira kind of disappeared soon after the invincibles, would have no prob placing gerrard ahead of him or keane for the time period in question, tho both were better players at their peak.

Pires got a player of the year, the year he deserved it. His dad wouldn't have him ahead of giggs here.

Terry is a slag but it's him or ferdinand, hon mention to carvalho and imo hyypia. None of the others were good enough for long enough, off the top of my head

Hasselbaink ahead of many of yr strikers.

Strikers not mentioned yet- keane, berbatov

In the decade, keane merits mention over torres and most of yr other picks

Owen, van nistelrooy legit calls tho

Essien? Three great years, same with yr two lfc midfielders.

Cmon

jaaskelainen

hibbert dunne distin baines

makelélé

nolan campo

duff

viduka kanu

alternatives

Friedel
Dunne

disagree on duff, campo, hibbert, baines they've not done it long enough???

Duff injury patchy like, tho he's good enough besides

carroll
clegg
brown
blanc
o'kane
davies
djemba djemba
scholes
wallwork
manucho
bellion

g nevs testimonial's decent.

Great fk from young juve player there.

Krasic just like nedved

Not nearly (re: Krasic).

He picked a smart hairstyle-club combo though, ensures he'll be a little overrated. I like him but he can be frustrating.

rep ire gonna win the euros imo

who is this flaming haired right back, looks a real talent. v reliable, get him in more often trapp.

personally i'd say partition was our best ever win against northern ireland but this is fairly good

26-6 what a result

And one or two of theirs fairly hotly disputed too like

dunphy and co wanted us to push on for more as far as i recall, there were ructions on rte as we sat back content with the 26.

it was one of those results, it looked a result at the time, but circumstances after maybe made it look a bad result.

what a player this lad is at rb

i'd like to see him in a bigger game. dependable is the word that comes to mind. you think of collapses in games in the past and it's that sort of player we've missed.

btw to continue the derail, simon cox finally gets a chance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy0YuNuPrhw&feature=related

ah nice to see Ward-y and Foley in the shop window

gary neville is a red, he hates scousers... ROONEEYYY, ROONEEYYY, ROONEEYYY

team of the decade is united 06/07, then Chelsea 04/05 then the arsenal lot.

Can;'t really fuss about Van Der Saar, great keeper, Cech had an iffy 18 months after Hunt tried to kill him. No other serious competition.

terry over carvalho every time. Carvalho had a two great seasons and then two sporadic ones. terry's way more consistent and at his best - 02-06 especially, was sensational. Doesn't necc mean I'd take terry over rio, mind.

gerrard over lampard, or indeed anybody, is ridiculousness obviously, as is the presence of Shearer. Essien? Not a chance.

Fabregas should be there, and probably Henry.

carroll
clegg
brown
blanc
o'kane
davies
djemba djemba
scholes
wallwork
manucho
bellion

Worst episode of Last of the Summer Wine ever.

Liam Miller a glaring omission. Oh and Dong Fangzhou up front.

thought about miller...but scholesy needed to get in.

Ha, somehow i didn't even notice Scholes.

neither do his kids when he picks them up from school. lots of horn-tooting and shouting their names required most days.

                Reina
Carr     Campbell  Vidic    Cole
         Makelele   Cesc
Ronaldo       Lampard
                       Henry
              Drogba
Subs: Cech
Ferdinand
Evra
Essien
Pires
Van Nistelrooy
Bergkamp

boom. would DESTROY the team the managers picked.

Carr had a nightmare decade, Campbell was a joke for a good bit of it.

Cesc is frankly out of his class there

Yr subs bench would prob beat that xi tbh

4-2-3-1? 4-2-2-2?

Where is Cudacini, btw?

that's a lopsided 4-2-3-1 aka the dunga formation, w/ ronaldo a roving right winger and henry left inside forward

The formation would be ok tbf, Henry could cover lw and striker

Hard to say how good ronaldo would be without Rooney?

Shearer's the ultimate English Centre Forward, so I can see why he's included

no english striker since him can tick as many boxes tho (rooney has more flair but nowhere near as reliable), may not see his like again?

still wouldn't have him in ahead of Henry or RVP tho

Carr had a nightmare decade

new thread idea

Boy, there are a lot more boxes than 'reliable' unticked there

Hard to say how good ronaldo would be without Rooney?

Seems to be coping well enough without him at the moment. I'd say his real problem would be playing second fiddle to Drogba and Henry.

That's your job, guv.

Hi number none have you met darraghmac?

Ah, i see

They did have a pretty good partnership though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WywowkFwtSA

The answer is Shearer

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