Wenger Out?

he's got to go. he's got to get to fuck.

Manager of the Year, now he's a cunt.

My membership pack arrived this morning, with a nice glossy paperback of Herbert Chapman's Thoughts On Football in there.

he's got to go. he's got to get to fuck.

― you've got male (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:45 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Like.

I am an Arsenal fan and Wenger will still be manager of the club at the end of the season

;_;

oooh whats that like ismael?

Haven't read the book but the pack's pretty good - got the book, a season preview dvd (my fault for applying late, now I know what's on it), a few other nicknacks and a nice lapel pin which I'd wear to work but y'know. The box itself is quite swish too.

I am not an Arsenal fan and Wenger will still be manager of the club at the end of the season.

I was going to go today as well (there were away tickets available a week ago but I was too indecisive). Really wish I had now.

He'll stay I reckon but it's all getting a bit Rafa by now.

I am not an Arsenal fan and Wenger will still be manager of the club at the end of the season.

what he said

this is all kinda ehhhhh

they just made another £20m profit in the transfer window

i'm a wenger fan but he won't be there by the end of the season. The game in england has moved on. Go then, arsewenger, there are other leagues than these.

to be clear, i don't think he should be sacked- but it'd be nice to know if has any money to spend or not. If he has cash but is refusing to spend it then.....yeah.

the systemic underinvestment is by far the most significant aspect of arsenal's recent failures, an uneasy collusion between a manager who doesn't demand investment and a board that is content with just being in the champions league every year

i think wenger is too mindful of 'value' to really pressure the board to cough up the inflated prices for people like cahill, mata, m'vila

exactly

I like Wenger even when he's being ungracious in defeat but I'll be surprised if he lasts the season. Arsenal need a change at this stage and he doesn't look like he's got any answers.

usually when wenger is being ungracious in defeat i'd be on his side- re reffing calls anyway. his tendency to bitch about opposition tactics is smdh x 1000

i'm not an Arsenal fan and I think Wenger will still be manager at the end of the season assuming the ownership structure remains the same

srs, wenger out we are losing to chicken

I don't endorse this opinion, except the hilarious economical way in which it is stated.

I'm an Arsenal fan and last season I was still 'Hodgson must stay' at Christmas.

is this arsenal fan thing srs now ik

they just made another £20m profit in the transfer window

― diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 17 September 2011 15:37 (50 minutes ago)

that'll bridge the gap from losing out on europe in may then.

is this arsenal fan thing srs now ik

― talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:28 (1 minute ago)

did you never read his trrfc piece on run of play about enjoying the liverpool downfall more than anything? basically, be worried if ik starts supporting yr team!

For present purposes anyway. I'm paying (some of) Koscielny's wages, I feel I've got some sort of stake in this fiasco - that's some sort of fandom I guess.

Ha yeah xp, this is like the overblown sequel. Speed 2 maybe.

making cesc keanu jumping ship before it goes under

I am an Arsenal fan and Wenger will still be manager of the club at the end of the season

And I am fine with that tbh.

Hope they don't sack him, those of us in Nth. Ldn. who are not Arsenal fans are enjoying this too much. They wouldn't find a better manager anyway.

Le bateau ivre and, to a twatty extent, Tom d otm.

Love that my phone's dictionary has "twatty" in it btw.

No offence, obv.

hang on

thought IK was a liv fan?

iirc he recently purchased an official AFC membership to give discounted tickets as a gift.

It's true. I'm trying to give Arsenal my second-best this year and to an extent it's working, but tbh these are just straight hilarious lols compared to the deliciously complex agony of pool last year.

Can't they just appoint Hodgson and get it over with.

xp It's maybe a bit what sponsoring an urchin feels like. While nominally it's for altruistic reasons, there's always a hint of smugness there too. And if the scamp will insist on truanting, drinking and not signing proper defenders anyway, you'd feel aggrieved for a while but ultimately it's not going to ruin your own life.

tbf, can't blame chesney for any of it so that's still ok.

before this thread popped up i was thinking of putting together a list of potential replacements for a poll but then this popped up and i got stuck in a transfer embargo (great way to start the season, fuck you consortium who fucked off instead of making the mighty o's rich) and i gave up. terribly scared that rafa is one very high level name of unemployed managers looking for work in england. also scared that moyes may want a different challange and push to make himself a candidate.

i am not an Arsenal fan, Wenger will be coach at the end of the season, but his contract (i don't know, this man has an eternal contract maybe?) anyway, it should not be renewed. time for a change, etc.

Sam, chill.

prospect of rafa will never not make me scared as fukkk

moyes at arsenal, what an experiment

I saw Moyes being tipped by someone as a potential future Sunderland boss midweek ("they could do a lot worse"). It was a bit heartbreaking to hear, just seems like finally the whole world has given up on him getting a crack at the big time.

Rafa would sort your defense out tbh. Happy for Wenger to stay though ;)

the same rafa who signed the likes of dossena, kronkamp and degen etc.?

don't mock, you'd kill for agger or skrtel. kyrgiakos would prob improve you too, would have been about an eighth of the price of mertesacker.

ya there is no room for an arsenal nor spurs fan to criticise rafa on defence

finally caught the highlights. mertesacker displaying some more of the statuesqueness he was giving out in the dortmund game

don't follow international football - how does he have 75 caps for germany

aiui he is ok when surrounded by anything approaching competence

Calling it now. 'arry to Engerland or jail in the summer.

Wenger in at Spurs.

Peter Reid now available.

Peter Reid's always available.

peter reid tried to beckon me into a dark alley last night, pretty sure i saw emerson thome skulking in there behind him too.

"Overall we scored 6 goals and lost the game."

Beautiful.

The Arsenal chief executive Ivan Gazidis has insisted that Arsène Wenger's position as manager is not under threat, despite the club's worst start to a season since 1953.

Arsenal have lost three of their first five Premier League matches this season and have not won a trophy since the FA Cup in 2005. The club's last Premier League title came in 2004.

However, Gazidis said that sacking Wenger is "a route we are not going to go down", adding that having critics and fans portray Wenger "as some kind of idiot" is damaging for football.

Speaking at the Sport Industry Breakfast Club in London, Gazidis said Wenger "is not broken... he did not suddenly become a bad manager or somebody who became out of touch with the game. That is complete nonsense."

I think it very unlikely that Wenger will be sacked, he's too woven into the fabric of the club now. I wouldn't bet against him leaving voluntarily, or stepping upstairs in some capacity.

I mean there's ample evidence that Arsenal stand by their people no matter what, as shown by still retaining Pat Rice as assistant manager in place of someone good, when he doesn't appear to do anything other than sit there looking like a bewildered supporting priest from Father Ted.

wenger up

he did not suddenly become a bad manager

Gazidis OTM, there's been nothing sudden about it.

I think everyone would be cool with Wenger went upstairs, or took a semi-retirement where he could work solely on scouting or the academy or whatever he is interested in.

I mean there's ample evidence that Arsenal stand by their people no matter what, as shown by still retaining Pat Rice as assistant manager in place of someone good,

Perhaps that's Wenger making sure this isn't any kind of successor or rival at the club? Maybe not. But he is in complete unquestioning control of the team if he hasn't got anyone half decent around him.

including defence?

Seeing Pat Rice on Saturday in his stupid shorts and sunglasses shouting impotently at the team just made me irrationally angry. I've no idea what he actually brings to the table.

can't decide btwn 'martin jol' or 'chris armstrong' in response tbh

proper British passion, you don't get that from your foreign imports and what-have-yous

Arsenal aren't alone in having guys sitting on the bench who don't appear to be bringing much to the table

Christ no

Shouts to Terry Connor

not to mention on the pitch

And, as I say, some managers are happy to keep it that way

Yeah he just looks particularly stupid. Mike Phelan hate is justified but disproportionate when there are guys like this around:

http://dailyfootballnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/pat-rice-arsenal.jpg

And what does Phelan do now he doesn't have to give interviews anymore?

'bewildered supporting priest from Father Ted' is dead right xp

I don't get where this is coming from. I mean a football club is more than match day. Maybe there isn't a need for coaches to turn up on a Saturday when they could be working with the reserves instead? Like of course Pat Rice or Phelan or whoever does a shit ton of good work, you don't become an Assistant Manager at a major CL club and keep yr job for years if you are just a wet tissue.

sometimes you can be the manager too yes.

you don't become an Assistant Manager at a major CL club and keep yr job for years if you are just a wet tissue

was gonna answer this but ken nailed it really.

you can meet limited, non-committal boss-pleasers in any medium to large organisation, usually working at a level way beyond any actual talent they might have.

hooray sez i

in lieu of pointing out that the only thing measured by your rise in a given setting is your ability to rise in that setting

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

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Congratulations, Arsene.

Impressive turnout. 11 Arsenal fans?

We did a 'where will they finish' poll for Liverpool, I think Arsenal and Stoke editions would be interesting.

I can see Stoke still being in the top six in January and then having a bit of a slump and finishing 7th or 8th.

Can we 'ave a "'arry out" poll with similar options to this one?

Arry Out?

Matt Fortune‏@MFworldfootball

Ivan Gazidis has told Daily Mirror that Arsene Wenger is to be offered a new Arsenal deal when his current £7m p/a ends in 2014

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this morning i found myself singing 'mertesacker' to the tune of 'bodhisattva' by steely dan

"Gervinho" to the tune of "Biko" kinda works too

unofficial reports saying he's not gone

Strong rumours that Avram Grant's been asked to step in in a consultancy role.

Read a couple headlines yesterday that were like 'wenger to assess future at end of season' like wtf maybe it is someone elses job to decide whether the guy should be fired

aw-should i fire myself from this great job where im paid a load of money and can do what i want?
aw-no
aw-cool, glad we had this talk

not really, not in the circs. who all else at arsenal qualifies?

Given that Guardiola walked away from one of the greatest club teams ever, why would you bet against Wenger deciding he just doesn't fancy it any more? I mean apart from the fact he's been stubborn as fuck up to now.

He might still be booted upstairs in some capacity as well.

I dread to think who he'd identify as his own successor. He's said to like the look of Christophe Revault, a young goalkeeper-manager currently keeping a steady ship at midtable Ligue 2 side Le Havre.

guardiola had nothing to do at barca, play one cm4 game until serge makofo hits 25 and you'll understand the feeling

Actually xp he's probably counting on lunchlady Doris being ready when the time comes.

o'leary in

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booking tickets on the trainline for those european away draws

the reflection of the mouse in the monitor is a nice touch

Arsene's got a good '80s Open University look going on there, if only Dennis were 20 years younger.

Professor Wenger a-settin' the world to rights again

https://twitter.com/CrazyGooner007/status/452814964227850240

there's no case for getting rid of him except that they could probably do much better ito trophies with another manager