a hot dog is

some disputation: http://firstwefeast.com/eat/philosophy-of-meat-bread/

a hot dog is delicious pig parts mashed into a tube i don't understand the question

on the atkins, i see

it's a pie

Why is there a picture of a sausage sandwich in the hot dog thread

indeed, quite cantankerous of you to deploy sausagebutty.jpg there j

the world is full of messy cases, it is our job to bring order to the chaos by carving nature at the joints (the fda has ruled that the joints cannot be added to the meat vat)

to me a sandwich is food between two pieces of bread. not sure if that's what a hotdog is.

^ a sly one

if a lobster roll is a sandwich, then a hot dog is a sandwich

any particular reason you've chosen hot dogs for this question j? literally everything can be categorised as either a sandwich or not a sandwich

Do we tell him about subway?

(dl)

i guess a filled baguette would count as a sandwich if you're going to be obstreperous about it, but i'd still be surprised if someone said they were buying a sandwich and then came out with a baguette (or a hotdog for that matter).

Yeah, no, a hotdog is not a sandwich. Nobody goes around eating a hotdog and saying 'I am eating a sandwich'.

nor should they, they might choke

literally everything can be categorised as either a sandwich or not a sandwich

you need your choice of categories to be responsive to reality otherwise it is merely an arbitrary imposition, like chopping the world up and putting it into your category-shaped tubes despite not actually ever taking that tube form in nature

I thought hot dogs were a pizza crust stuffing.

that just raises the additional problem of whether pizzas can have sandwiches as crusts

and whether pizzas can themselves be sandwiches

What isn't a hot dog?

xp well, is the pizzaburger a pizza?

is a calzone a sandwich? if i put chicken salad between two slices of domino's meateor is it a sandwich?

when i went to australia some schoolkids told me they don't have hot dogs, just sausages in sandwich bread

Are bunless pizza crust cheeseburgers sandwiches?

http://cdn.foodbeast.com.s3.amazonaws.com/content/uploads/2013/09/pizza-hut-cheeseburger-pizza.jpg

open-faced sandwiches, if they are

looks like one giant open-faced sandwich to me xp

basically i think i'm coming to the realisation that everything is a sandwich

Go ahead guys, go about your day to day life calling hot dogs sandwiches, go do that

xp but 'sandwiches' were invented at some point in human history

so what you're really saying is that the earl of sandwich DISCOVERED that everything was a sandwich

… was ALREADY a sandwich

had always been a sandwich

we're through the sandwich looking glass here for sure

it's sandwiches all the way down

http://content-img.newsinc.com/jpg/1171/28437689/18772360.jpg?t=1422290460

We have got onto slippery ice. Back to the rough ground meat.

This question has already been considered by Judge John Hodgman and he made his ruling here: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/05/04/magazine/04-one-page-magazine.html

He says: If your friend’s hot dog is a sandwich, why doesn’t he just cut it in half? HE CAN’T, CAN HE? Because it is not a sandwich, but a hot dog, indivisible and sui generis — a culinary anomaly so compelling that we actually eat it, even when it is cooked in a tank on a cart.

your mom

wtf, of course you can cut a hot dog in half

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/billyboy71_2006/NJ%20Hot%20Dog%20Tour%202009/IMG_0104.jpg

this is like some reverse-king-solomon shit

(i realise those aren;t halves of the same dog but you get my meaning)

xp how is it reverse, he cut the baby in half just like that

not so sure he did tbh

any particular reason you've chosen hot dogs for this question j? literally everything can be categorised as either a sandwich or not a sandwich

your mom is

A hot dog sandwich is always a sandwich. A hot dog is sometimes a sandwich. A cheese dog is never a sandwich. A chili dog is two sandwiches, surprisingly enough.

what about a corn dog?

like a 360-degree sandwich

Negative sandwich.

I have seen quasi-serious discussion of whether a hot dog is, or is not, a taco.

http://the-toast.net/tag/is-a-hot-dog-a-taco/

I have not seen (until now) discussion of whether a hot dog is a sandwich.

This raises (not begs) questions like: is a sandwich a taco? Is a taco a sandwich? The world awaits.

If stuff-in-a-pita is a sandwich, then why not a quesadilla or calzone?

A pizza folded in half is basically a taco.

http://www.midcenturymenu.com/2013/02/frankfurter-loaf-1967/

stunned

a copernican revolution

#notallbeef

https://my.vanderbilt.edu/johnmcjunkins/files/2013/02/nicolaus-copernicus.jpg
http://www.indypartyrentals.com/items/Gold_Medal_Lil_Diggity_Hot_Dog_Roller_Grill/gm8023%5B1%5D.jpg

A pizza folded in half is basically a taco.

And a taco folded in half is... a messy shirt.

so if you take a couple of slices of frankfurter loaf and spread some egg salad between them that's definitely a sandwich right

yes

a taco folded on itself several times is heading into like a savoury baklava situation imo

Pass gravy and barbecue sauce.

This got me a trip to the emergency room once.

Is this a sandwich y/n

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5pssQET93R4/UIy7YH7DPzI/AAAAAAAADgk/_B9MamkIRng/s1600/011.jpg

sure why not

ftr I was composing my poll while on a conference call and completely missed mattressless's post

damn this is a hot topic in 2015

john hodgman and hannibal buress and now ILX weighing in

on the menu at the O hot dogs are listed in a separate category from sandwiches, this answers the question, praise be to God

xp greasy finger feeling around in the forearm fat for a faint pulse

euler surely you of all people must see that that could be a merely verbal distinction

back to the meats themselves!!!

tbh I just want a plate of fries from the O

the objectivity of the sandwich is not affected by the fact it is a matter of our arbitrary choice which part of all the food on the earth we mark off and elect to call "the sandwich".

the sandwich fusion

not to be confused with a fusion sandwich

The Weather Report Reuben

is a hot dog identical to a hot dog in a bun

well how could it be if a bun is not nothing

Is a hot dog on a bun more or less of a sandwich if the bun it is on is not a hot dog bun?

http://assets.kraftfoods.com/recipe_images/New_Orleans_Curly_Dogs.jpg

What about a Tornado?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-G2OrSefHCLM/TyKhleTOeyI/AAAAAAAAE4k/9kLgcDl8Oxw/s1600/photo.JPG

this might be a good thread if it were possible to argue that a hot dog is a sandwich, but seeing as it is impossible, no one has taken it up to do so & thus the thread sucks

not unlike the foregone conclusion of a thread polling whether you suck then

oh my goddddd. someone lock this shit and bump the viking thread plz

what even is a sandwich really i mean

"hot dog" is ambiguous about whether it has a bun imo

trying to define the problem away eh

a sandwich is something with another two somethings on the outsides of it

the kfc double down is called a sandwich ffs

XXP come on we're talking about a hot dog in a bun like regular people eat, we're not asking if a hot dog cut up and put in macaroni and cheese is a sandwich, don't add fuel to this not-a-sandwich truther nonsense

But is a hot dog piece between two macaronis a sandwich? Is that just a plateful of mini sandwiches? Things that make you go hmmm.

I am impressed that we got this far before someone wrote "resulting paste"

A pizza folded in half is basically a taco.

― You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Friday, July 31, 2015 11:15 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i am leaving ILX over this post

But is a hot dog piece between two macaronis a sandwich? Is that just a plateful of mini sandwiches? Things that make you go hmmm.

― You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch)

things that make me go yummmmm.

crüt, does it soften the blow if I tell you that a flattened taco is also basically a pizza?

Food is basically all the same except for how it's folded, is the takeaway.

basically just excrement with unextracted nutrients, is what you're saying

xxp goddammit, a flattened taco is a tostada, I will brook no opposition on this.

and an unflattened hamburger on a bun is a meatball hoagie, we could do this all day

a hot dog is a sandwich

Tostada is just another name for pizza, iirc?

If you squeeze a hot dog out of the package and into your mouth it's basically a Gogurt.

(Wanted to head everyone off at the pass before they wasted their time creating a poll about whether a hot dog is a Gogurt or not.)

hotdogdownhallway.gif

There are no women posting in this thread.

tostadadownhallway.avi

^ would watch

a hot dog is not a goddamn sandwich

But a sandwich is technically a hot dog, so who even knows anymore.

http://www.blogofmanly.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/ladies-man.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1484956/not%20a%20sandy.png

can some Britisher post here and create further ruckus?

are hot dogs an ingredient of beenie weenies?

my wife was served bunless hot dogs, not cut up, in Eastern Europe in the early 90s.

need a full report form pepsi marketing on this question

Britishers put rocket on their hot dogs.

Are mashed or whipped hot dogs a thing? Those would definitely not count as sandwiches. Except...maybe?

i hate all of you fyi

hot dog is totally a sandwich btw

maybe my south american brothers & sisters can speak up with me for the important and often disgusting use of hot dogs on the continent.

but here is evidence from bolivia in favor of "is a sandwich":

El perro caliente (del inglés hot dog) o panchito (vocablo compuesto de pan y chorizo) es un sándwich con una salchicha de Frankfurt o vienesa en un pan alargado que suele acompañarse con algún aderezo. Se ha convertido en el entremés infaltable en torno a la fogata de San Juan, festividad que se avecina.

this is a typical Chilean hot dog

http://cuentaporfavor.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/completo.jpg

it is a sandwich

a hot dog is a river

i can tell you it's nigh impossible to get a decent hot dog in the UK. 999 times out of a thousand the onions are the best bit

I got a match day hot dog once and it didn't even have the onions:(

My favorite sandwich:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5gRGTsFe6dU/UfGFRXJAo3I/AAAAAAAAKcE/eabw8D3IRYo/s1600/102_8345.JPG

hot dogs in France usually look like this

https://www.kelownanow.com/files/files/images/Paris%20hot%20dog.jpg

I've never had the nerve to order one and I hope I never do.

I wish I had a hot dog I could skate away on.

you understand

xxp in that situation i'd go for the Croque obv

ich bin ein Frankfurter

hot dogs are like tattoos

The French ones look like they got fused with welsh rarebit

it is a razor

http://i.imgur.com/zXqS9Dy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PP4ObE7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vNqpadk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9tWXOBm.jpg

euler are you kidding those look amazing

i can tell you it's nigh impossible to get a decent hot dog in the UK. 999 times out of a thousand the onions are the best bit

idgi yall got hogs and factories over there rite

idgi either, we do decent sausages, but everything sold as a hot dog here is either tasteless floor scrapings inflated with water or gristly fake wurst

and don't get me wrong, i like cheap, fatty sausages, but British tradition is that hotdogs shd always be a crushing disappointment

onions are very tasty. would eat an onion tube with diced hot dogs on top.

idgi either, we do decent sausages, but everything sold as a hot dog here is either tasteless floor scrapings inflated with water

oh well actually

a hot dog doesn't have proper layers. you should be able to extract a core sample from any point on the horizontal plane of a sandwich and get a similar result.

a topological argument! very creative

Doesn't have proper layers. Pssh. What are 'dark pink membrane' and 'light pink gelatinous slurry' if not layers?

grain man over here xxp

turn the bun on its side, you got uniform layers bread > dog > bread from top to bottom, so ergo it's a sandwich?

Is the bun hinge a quibbling point? Because you can break that shit and then it's just a hingeless bun like magic.

The core sample argument doesn't work because I could extract a uniform core sample from a cupcake that had been squashed between a rice cake and a slice of watermelon but I don't think very many people would call that a sandwich.

i believe our friend slugbuggy was proposing it as a test the hot dog fails, not one makes anything passing it a sandwich

fun will m fact: i used to eat hot dogs sideways so they would be more "sandwich-like" with bread on top and bottom
fun hot dog fact: is a sandwich

there's the concept of toppings, which suggests the open portion of the hot dog is the nominal up side, the toppings go on top. you can turn that sideways if you want to, i guess.

hamburger toppings go in the middle! wait do we even call those toppings? i'm confused. do we even call them toppings on hot dogs?!

yeah, they're toppings:

http://www.viennabeef.com/filebin/images/historyOfChicagoDog.jpg

they go on top of the meat

but are they called hamburger toppings?

yes

Are they called hamburger toppings if they're on a hot dog?

see THIS is why ppl leave ilx

youre all morons

NOT A SANDWICH

nobody leaves ilx

meat on a bun is never not a sandwich

inclined to agree with VG
i.e. i wd not call a hot dog a sandwich & can't think of any ordinary language occasion in which i or anyone else wd do so

i say this as a latter-day wittgensteinian
& as a woman (only anecdotal data so far but there seems to be gender split on this question)

*fist bump*

^^^^

a hot dog is not a sandwich even when it is on new england style "buns"

here are some hot dogs i made

https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11800346_10100548918409906_2029251620406984586_n.jpg?oh=c5ae640d336f457f363208e31ba85920&oe=564EAF6D

not a sandwich, no one has ever called a hot dog a sandwich ime

sending a takedown request to your image host gbx

sorry for partying

What if you gave someone a pastrami on rye and said, here eat this. And they ate it and after you ate it you said, did you enjoy your SANDWICH? And they said yes, establishing an implicit mutual agreement that it was a sandwich. Only then you reveal that you secretly put ground up hot dog between the pastrami and like the lettuce or whatever you put on a pastrami and rye. And they say, oh you got me, guess a hot dog can be a sandwich, good one.

what if you were a big fat liar, you mean, well that seems like an issue for another thread

Philosophers are often like little children, who first scribble random lines on a piece of paper with their pencils, and now ask an adult "What is that?".

A cut-up hot dog in a bowl of milk is cereal. We can all at least start from that indisputable point.

A philosopher easily gets into the position of an incompetent manager who, instead of getting on with his own hotdogs and just keeping an eye on his employees to make sure they do theirs properly, takes over their hotdogs until one day he finds himself overloaded with other people's hotdogs, while his employees look on and criticize him.

ground up hot dog is not 'hot dog'

A cut-up hot dog in a bowl of milk is cereal.

ok

http://autofood.ir/UserFiles/gallery/hotwich.jpg

https://koshersamurai.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/pizza-cone-21.jpg

http://ourobengr.com/wp-uploads/2012/09/discordian-hotdog.jpg

what fresh hell

NSFW warning, please.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/229/479747578_1c780b3cf5_o_d.jpg

http://www.gotfunnypictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Toothpaste-Dog.jpg

Ceci n'est pas une brosse à dents.

the john wayne gacy of hot dogs

That looks like a tofu pup too.

HOT DOG is...

Hearty
Often yummy
Too delicious to ignore

HOT DOG is...

Dinner
On the money
Good food I adore

HOT DOG is...

your friend <3

ienjoyhotdogs wrote this on thread What sounds 'cutting edge' in 2015? on board I Love Music on May 27, 2015

farts

RIP

functionally a hot dog is a sandwich, but it's farther away from the platonic ideal of sandwichness than a a blt or ham and swiss on rye. it's less of a sandwich. things that are sandwiched are between, a bun is singular, the dog is within. layering is not a necessary condition, it's a connotation, a belief that things go in order, that if you notate something thusly then that's what it looks like. a hot dog with stuff just glopped on it is just fucking chaos.

"Less of a sandwich" otm. Degrees of sandwichosity rather than a polarizing yes/no. "Girls, you're BOTH pretty."

Platonic ideal of sandwich is bread, savory food, bread, arranged in a vertical vector.

Of course there are things that don't fit that that we can still call a sandwich. Open-faced sandwiches (e.g. croque m.). Ice cream sandwiches.

The orientation of the meat-slot (ahem) is salient, but it is not dispositive. I'd sooner welcome a lobster roll into the sandwich family than a hot dog. Some subs are served with the slot facing vertically, but I suspect most users turn them round for eating.

(This illustrates one flaw in the design of the hot dog bun: if you hold it upright, the most flavorful elements are farthest from your taste buds! You get a tongue-full of blandness and all the fun is pointing at the roof of your mouth.)

A hamburger is definitely a sandwich. As are all mcmuffin-style breakfast sandwiches.

Bread is pretty much essential. BreadING, as in a corn dog, does not count. Tortillas do not count, so a wrap or quesadilla is not a sandwich. Chicken, in the infamous Double-Down, is a one-off exception that has been discontinued and is unlikely to gain traction with the public again. If a calzone (or folded piece of pizza) is a sandwich, then so is a chicken pot pie, which is plainly absurd and a notion not to be entertained among the civilized.

I see hierarchies of information as situational. Seals and sea lions are different, but the distinction matters a lot more to marine biologists than to, say, third-graders. Some distinctions will only ever be interesting to highly interested persons. See also: apes and monkeys.

So if a restaurant does not specialize in sandwiches, I wouldn't fault them for including hot dogs among a general heading "sandwiches." Bread/stuff/bread, close enough.

But if you claim expertise in sandwiches, you will want your taxonomy to be more granular: hamburgers, paninis, wraps, subs, hoagies, open-faced sandwiches, hot dogs.

Nah

This song's been stuck in my head since the thread began.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHhheCf0G1I

Hodgeman had ruled. THAT IS ALL!

I agree with virtually everything Ye Mad Puffin said except the part where he says a hot dog is not a sandwich. I love the good judge Hodgman but his ruling is absurd. A sandwich is defined by something you cut in half?! What kind of prescriptive nonsense is that?!

A sandwich, to me, is something where it's put in bread to be easier to eat with your hands. The "dachshund sandwich" was a frankfurter in a bun so people could eat it at a ball game. IT WAS CALLED A SANDWICH before someone changed its name to hot dog.

I trust that ILX will not fuck this poll up when there is such a clear and correct answer.

Also I have probably earned more SBs on this thread than in the history of my ten years on ILX but idaf ahdias

well now you're just askin for it

Hot dogs were originally bunless; there is a story (possibly apocryphal) of a hot dog vendor who provided his customers with gloves to protect their hands while eating the dogs. Too many customers kept the gloves instead of giving them back; his wife suggested hey, maybe just put them in bread?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_dog#History

Tangent: I should note that I am originally from St. Louis. "Inventing the hot dog bun" is one of the things that St. Louis's cheery boosters (my mother among them) will not shut up about. St. Louis also claims to have invented the ice cream cone at, of course, the 1904 World's Fair. I say this with bounteous and tolerant love: St. Louis, the reason you will never be a major modern city is because you cannot shut up about achievements that happened in 1904.

lol

Not a sandwich. Has there ever been a time when you were at a deli ordering a sandwich and they asked "What kind of meat would you like?" and offered hot dog meat as an option?

That's a silly criterion

this thread is for serious criteria only

How is it silly? Ordering a sandwich is like every day behavior for millions of people. Delis specialize in sandwiches so I would defer to their authority over a restaurant that sells sandwiches soups salads steaks pasta all kinds of foods and thus might label a hotdog as a sandwich more out of menu space concerns.

there are all sorts of sandwiches you can't get at a tpyical deli. they only sell the "greatest hits" sandwiches. you are being very breaderonormative right now

I guess to really answer this question we would need to ask an archaeologist about how prehistoric man enjoyed his hot dogs.

place is overrun w Sandwich Justice Warriors /s

Literally "they don't sell hot dogs at the sandwich shop so it's not a sandwich" is the worst argument for anything I've ever heard.

A hot dog is a damn sandwich! Meat between bread, it's the platonic ideal of sandwich.

Would you ever say the words "Hot dog sandwich"?

Any other sandwich contains the word "sandwich". You don't eat a "Peanut Butter and Jelly", you eat a "Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich". You don't eat a "Egg Salad" you eat an "Egg Salad Sandwich".

Would you ever say the words "hamburger sandwich"?

Croque Monsieur sandwich

I have before, and I might again someday.

xps - a muffaletta is a sandwich but doesn't require the word "sandwich" to know what it is and that it's a sandwich. Ditto po-boy, hoagie, grinder, Reuben, etc

A hot dog is a sandwich.

my takeaway here is that Adam isn't very familiar with sandwiches

if anyone ever said blt sandwich i might laugh at them

BLT also. You guys are right about that.

Still I think one must differentiate between breads, a hamburger/hotdog bun is not easily replaced w your standard slice of white or wheat bread.

"I'd like a turkey club."
"You want a meat cudgel made out of pressed turkey????"
"What? No, I want a turkey club sandwich."
"Oh! You have to say 'sandwich' otherwise no one knows what you're talking about."
"Shut up, Adam."

Still I think one must differentiate between breads, a hamburger/hotdog bun is not easily replaced w your standard slice of white or wheat bread.

confirms DJP's takeaway completely

"breaderonormative" = threadwinner imo

I mean of course it is true to say a hot dog is a sandwich, obviously, obviously, it obviously is a sandwich, and of course it is more accurate to say that it is a hot dog that is how categories work

And you can cut one in half. Why is there a person who thinks that you can't cut a hot dog and why do they think that is a defining characteristic of a sandwich

Has there ever been a time when you were at a deli ordering a sandwich and they asked "What kind of meat would you like?" and offered hot dog meat as an option?

if it's a torta place, then yes.

http://www.seriouseats.com/torta.jpg

A torta is a sandwich before anyone starts

Why is there a person who thinks that you can't cut a hot dog and why do they think that is a defining characteristic of a sandwich

I think if we can answer this question, we will be capable of solving most of the social crises that currently threaten modern civilization.

Are we saying that a hot dog bun is two slices of bread? Typically it comes as one unified bun.

That is the most bonkers thing itt even beating out dog latin's assertion that filled baguettes are not sandwiches

Xp

hinged bun already a confirmed non-issue, subway calls their sandwiches sandwiches and they come on hinged buns

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/2/12/1360687508527/Benugo-Tuna-mayo-salad-008.jpg

^unified bun

^sandwich

^otm

A hot dog is a sandwich.

― rack of lamb of god (WilliamC), Monday, August 3, 2015 12:35 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree with all of the above logic and yet i voted "not a sandwich" because "not a sandwich" is a feeling

Like climate change denial

"Typically it comes as one unified bun." - yes, also true of many bun/sub roll/baguette-based entities (as wins correctly notes).

Sloppy Joe - on a bun, fits the basic bread/stuff/bread criterion regardless of whether the bun-hinge is complete or severed. It is a sandwich.

Lobster roll - on a bun, fits the basic bread/stuff/bread criterion regardless of whether the bun-hinge is complete or severed. It is a sandwich,

Croque monsieur (cf. all open-faced sandwich-like entities): often served on ONE piece of bread. While it is not bread/meat/bread, it is still traditionally and rightly classed as a sandwich, via a grand-pere clause.

I have no idea what a torta exactly is, but based on Jordan's photo I would eat the fuck out of one right now. That's amore.

They are dope

Yeah whatever that is it looks fucking awesome.

I voted non-sandwich despite having to acknowledge that the pro-sandwich people have logic on their side, guess it's kind of a heart/mind dichotomy.

Tortas are DOPE

Torta cubana is the shit

I'm hungry

The original question is a bit confusing because it does not specify is breading is involved or not. You could take it to mean a hot dog complete w the trappings or simply a hot dog straight out of the package, cooked solo over a campfire.

Agree that pro-sandwichers have logic on their side.

Spider dogs!

https://hotcheapeasy.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/2011-july-montauk-049.jpg

not a sandwich, but def awesome

If 'open-faced' is a legitimate variety of sandwich, then the parameters of sandwichdom seem far-reaching indeed. If you don't even need two pieces of bread, who says you need bread at all? Looking forward to the sandwich avant garde.

http://www.bookcaseangel.com/images/octodog.jpg

http://www.bookcaseangel.com/images/octodog.jpg

hi dere molecular gastronomy: https://www.google.com/search?q=molecular+gastronomy+sandwich&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CDwQsARqFQoTCLyM2Yq1jccCFUPVgAodFfAA4Q&biw=1249&bih=585

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/38/7a/79/387a794cb7780e38c889f501504622a3.jpg

these fuckin guys

I voted non-sandwich despite having to acknowledge that the pro-sandwich people have logic on their side, guess it's kind of a heart/mind dichotomy.

is-sandwich leaners are looking at this as question of scientific taxonomy, as if these were natural kinds; is-not-sandwich leaners see these as distinct cultural kinds, looking at this question more ethnographically & nominalistically

If you don't even need two pieces of bread, who says you need bread at all?

And now, at long last, we arrive at the sorites paradox (though in truth we were there all along).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorites_paradox

Most reasonable people will agree that one grain of sand is definitely not a heap of sand. Also, most reasonable people will agree that a million grains of sand definitely constitutes a heap of sand.

So at what point does it become a heap of sand? Two grains? Three? A hundred grains? If so, then why 100 grains and not 99 grains?

Similarly, if we say a sandwich requires two pieces of bread, why two and not one? Or three?

drash otm on the competing frames of reference.

I'm still on team "degrees of sandwich"

I take the heap of sand with a pinch of salt.

Oh, and of course

http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/it-is-my-hope-that-i-will-be-remembered-as-a-great-10896

"Perhaps it will be treaties that will come to be known for eternity as Sandwiches. Great leaders of countries will say, "Let us enact a Sandwich, that our two nations shall cease to be enemies. By the terms of this most sacred and honorable Sandwich, let us have peace in our great lands." That would be a most fitting tribute to me, considering my tireless contributions to the treaty of Aix-la-Chapelle in 1748."

hey guys, i'm having a barbeque lunch meal on Tuesday. hamburger sandwiches and hot dog sandwiches will be served by humans, but please bring a side food dish. you'll probably want to wear short pants because it's supposed to be a high-temperature day.

-unabomber

enjoying Ye Mad Puffin posting itt because his name has been making me think of

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/C5E602/two-tins-of-ye-olde-oak-american-style-hot-dogs-sausages-in-brine-C5E602.jpg

Like climate change denial

― j.enjoyhotdogs (wins), Monday, August 3, 2015 11:53 AM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol :(

can't believe there are believe on this thread who haven't had a torta. i had two this weekend (which is atypical but welcome. although i have to be careful with some of the giant taqueria versions, because they are huge & bready and i know i'm incapable of saving half for later).

http://s3-media4.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/huYxR3suLcBDXRt6DWERyQ/o.jpg

Basically what I'm getting there is that they're a portal into the Sandwich Dimension.

so important to brine the hot dogs

what we talk about when we talk about sandwiches

Similarly, if we say a sandwich requires two pieces of bread, why two and not one? Or three?

― Ye Mad Puffin, Monday, August 3, 2015 1:24 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

3 slices of bread in a club sandwich. one piece of toast between two pieces of untoasted bread is a toast sandwich. and if dagwood bumstead is to be believed, there may very well be no upper limit to the number of pieces of bread allowed to still call it a sandwich (aside from real-world physics and human biology, something DB gets to ignore).

is-sandwich leaners are looking at this as question of scientific taxonomy, as if these were natural kinds; is-not-sandwich leaners see these as distinct cultural kinds, looking at this question more ethnographically & nominalistically

― drash, Monday, August 3, 2015 1:23 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imo this is a less a case of scientific/taxonomical vs cultural/ethnographical and more a case of sandwich as transgressive food delivery mechanism vs. tightly-curated finite list of predetermined, vetted creations. the "it's not a sandwich" crowd are like the people who see patrissy (a mix of patron and hennessy) as a "mixed drink" and not a "cocktail." frankly I'd include "wraps" as sandwiches if it didn't seem like everyone pita-industrial complex wasn't on a PR smear mission to ensure everyone believes it is superior to (and therefore not) a sandwich.

btw patrissy is real, someone told me about it on saturday. nas's brother drinks it.

of course he does

Will M. makes good points. Since you mentioned drinks, this can be usefully compared with martini purism. Lots of things can be put in a martini glass and given a name that ends with "ini."

There will always be people who say that a martini can only be gin, vermouth, and an optional olive. Vodka makes it a non-martini automatically (to those holding this purist view), and if you're using a pearl onion you must call it a Gibson BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS CALLED. A vodka-based chocolate-orange-tini can never be a martini (to those holding this purist view).

I personally don't care enough to get up in arms about it but I am amused that there are those for whom "vodka martini" constitute fightin' words.

imo this is a less a case of scientific/taxonomical vs cultural/ethnographical and more a case of sandwich as transgressive food delivery mechanism vs. tightly-curated finite list of predetermined, vetted creations

dying

one piece of toast between two pieces of untoasted bread is a toast sandwich.

somehow I missed this when I read Will's post before and it's genius

That's some bread connoisseur work, at that point you're not even in it for the carb kick, it's the contrast of the textures.

"First you butter the bread, then you butter the toast, then you butter the other bread"
"But-"
"Different butters!"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_sandwich

this wikipedia article is 100% gems, i almost want to poll that article's best parts

white bread (slightly heated)
salt & pepper
olive oil
white bread (toasted)
olive oil
salt & pepper
white bread (slightly heated)

― stoomcursus rockisme (unregistered), Thursday, 2 July 2015 02:04 (1 month ago)

^this is still one of my most satisfied 'wiching experiences (although properly speaking, the items being 'sandwiched' were the oil and the seasonings rather than the toast)

*most satisfying

"This is the culinary equivalent of a Rothko painting. Or it's like a sandwich by Marcel Duchamp! It questions the essence of sandwich and language both!"[11]

Okay, I was not expecting that.

patrissy :-(

two perfectly drinkable drinks in combat, why

is an empanada or calzone or pasty a sandwich?

pastry isn't bread, nice try tho

1) no pastry in the first two at least
2) what madness, "pastry is not bread", good grief

is a gordita or an arepa or a pupusa a sandwich?

is ravioli a sandwich

you're a sandwich

not the 1st time I've been subposted

stuffed pastries will maybe be sandwiches one day, but today is not that day. sorry empanadas, calzones, pasties, gorditas, arepas, and pupusas (i am assuming these are all stuffed breads/pastries -- not easy to find all of these in my city). ravioli is one step further removed.

pastry can be the bread of a sandwich though, ham and cheese on a croissant is A) delicious B) pastry-based C) sandwich.

as the self-appointed ILX Dean of Sandwiches I thank you all for your sandwich questions. I shall eat one sandwich deemed a "hot dog" in each of your honours.

war criminal

you can't self-appoint yourself to a position of power without breaking a few eggs

and before you ask, an omelet is not a sandwich

Gonna have some taco sandwiches for dinner tonight, can't wait.

Chicken pot pie - sandwich? It is stuff surrounded by a breadlike product.

For that matter, so is an apple pie.

pies are cousins of sandwiches. and tacos where is that even coming from

your logic traps do not make hot dogs any less a-sandwich

you're a cousin of a sandwich

i do have a cousin named reuben so joke's on you

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6f/2e/69/6f2e6903af68ea2cec74507b851fced3.jpg

it's a clever pun you dumb idiots!

http://www.tmfile.com/mark/?q=783764574

because of the sandwiches which are there

i would like to draw everyone's attention to this sandwich called a "mother-in-law"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother-in-law_(tamale)

i found this while researching sandwiches. after all a leader should be knowledgeable of that in his purview

your mother-in-law's a sandwich

once I ordered a pork chop taco in SA and it was a : pork chop, cooked normally with bone in, in a tortilla. I think that taco at least was a sandwich.

transgressive food delivery mechanism vs. tightly-curated finite list of predetermined, vetted creations

self-appointed ILX Dean of Sandwiches

after all a leader should be knowledgeable of that in his purview

oh i see, it's the old story, radical/revolutionary —> tyrant
sandwich robespierre

i'll have you decapitated and your headmeat served on a kaiser, motherfucker, test me

a hot dog is

what i'm going to have for dinner

we talking grilled and neat? or some swanky body hot dogs at a secret NYC club?

i'm just gonna sweat them in a bit of water in my frying pan, toss some butter in, brown'em, and then put them in a coupla buns with mustard and some cheddar slices, nbd, basic monday, what's with all the questions

i'm just gonna sweat them in a bit of water in my frying pan, toss some butter in, brown'em, and then put them in a coupla buns with mustard and some cheddar slices, nbd, basic monday, what's with all the questions

― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, August 3, 2015 7:24 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my man

starting to think i should've found a way to exclude the queen's subjects from this poll, it's too important to have a bunch of people who don't know shit about hot dogs up in it

real talk

britishers are making a good case but I will keep voting for "not a sandwich " until system (a britisher too iirc) gets it

still not a sandwich

a hot dog is a sandwich if you slice it into thin, flat, and round slices, and then you put those on tiny slices of bread to make tiny bologna sandwiches

i'm game, don't slice too fine
http://newyork.seriouseats.com/images/2011/10/20111012-cumbre-headcheese-sandwich.jpg

a sliced hot dog, in slices, sliced on bread of any kind --- is not a hot dog

if the tube is intact between even an infinitely planar surface, it is still a hot dog, hinged bun be damned.

what about a hot dog annulus on a hamburger sandwich's bun?

or a hot dog annulus between smaller and larger radius bread annuli?

would that we had the technology

still a dog, dogg

https://www.rover.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/pug-buried-in-sand.jpg

If the thread didn't want UK input, it shouldn't have strayed so close to 'what is a pie' - pie phones are ringing softly across the country.

1741: His first completed work - a slice of bread, a slice of bread on top of that, and a slice of turkey on top of both - fails miserably. Bitterly disappointed, he returns to his studio and begins again.

"jason waterfalls (gbx)
Posted: August 3, 2015 at 7:06:51 PM
a sliced hot dog, in slices, sliced on bread of any kind --- is not a hot dog

if the tube is intact between even an infinitely planar surface, it is still a hot dog, hinged bun be damned."

God bless you my friend and saint and scholar

Main ingredient: bread.

I am not going to eat a "hot dog annulus." nope

cf andouillette

andouillette is like the supremum of hot dogs (sans bun of course)

Even though it literally smells like shit

Would you ever say the words "Hot dog sandwich"?

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, August 3, 2015 5:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

are you arguing for tautology?
Since a hot dog is inevitably a sandwich you would be declaring the same semantic referent twice wouldn't you?

Is bologna a sausage?

Rag bologna is a long stick, or "chub" of high fat bologna traditionally sold wrapped in a cloth rag.

Our Hot Dog Was, Is (Townshend, 3:23)

I'm sorry, I know it's off-topic but can we go back to "patrissy" for a second?

lol that pug

i am making a late pass on this but imo this is a silly question. my thoughts:

1) yes, a hot dog is a sandwich - it is food served between pieces of bread. it does not matter whatsoever that people do not typically call it a sandwich or say "i want a sandwich, maybe a hot dog sandwich!", it is still technically a sandwich
2) a hot dog (or a folded pizza) is not a taco, fuck outta with that bullshit, a taco requires a tortilla, that is what makes it a taco, not goddamn bun. i can't even imagine what you are thinking when you call a hot dog a taco.

also
3) a "toast sandwich" is some stupid bullshit and really is not worth anyone's time

Harry Rose is the final authority on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6HB-w_7xRM

There is a Limp Bizkit song on this issue but hell if I am ever going to post a Limp Bizkit video.

i really doubt they have a line as good as the Yom Kippur one by Harry

Wait til you hear about the fucked up kid with the fucked up knife

1745: After four years of frenzied labor, he is convinced he is on the threshold of success. He exhibits before his peers two slices of turkey with a slice of bread in the middle. His work is rejected by all but David Hume, who senses the imminence of something great and encourages him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry4vNrDeNzo

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--brfplWJD--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1375026751838010799.jpg

what was his answer?!??

I don't know; I don't watch ESPN. I just spotted the image.

sometimes i feel like you don't care at all about some of the most important things

Not all hot dogs are sandwiches, but these hot dogs are sandwiches:

http://images.tastespotting.com/uploads/thumbnail/96099.jpg

when i went to australia some schoolkids told me they don't have hot dogs, just sausages in sandwich bread

this is a different thing fyi

and a glorious tradition of democracy

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

A hot dog is a wave and a particle.

The hot dog is not the territory.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

a mandate

!!!
(tbh confess i voted 'not' but am shocked by these results; expected obverse landslide)

A great victory

morning in america

^

a great time to eat a hot dog btw

i expect some of our friends across the atlantic will be outraged

they lost the revolution

i ate some hot dogs yesterday they were v good

3) a "toast sandwich" is some stupid bullshit and really is not worth anyone's time

― marcos, Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:58 AM (3 weeks ago)

wonder bread (soggy)
mayonnaise
kraft cheese
bologna
marcos, Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:58 AM
bologna
mayonnaise
wonder bread (soggy)

From this day forth, I'm going to call every sandwich I eat a hot dog to protest this outrage.

A hot dog is a wave and a particle.

― Herbie Mann's Push Push Pops (Old Lunch)

ultimately i think this is the truest (non)position

you know who's a real hot dog is that trump feller

i leave ilx for one fucking minute and

may be yr hot dog despotism begot this revolt

its not a sandwich

Is a hamburger a hot dog?

If a sandwich is just bread with a filling then surely a hotdog is a subset of sandwich?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/42/9b/ee/429bee7e3b734114d2838c1eea65c475.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf4peGGhVck

http://68.media.tumblr.com/b714e6c5a16112f066609f817ee6831a/tumblr_ola1c2ymYr1vj3g26o1_500.jpg

FIENDISH

ugh I eat some gross shit that shouldn't go in anybody's mouth and I don't want to eat that

https://mobile.twitter.com/matttomic/status/859117370455060481/photo/1

good night, blt-right

A hot dog is basically a gyro minus the tzatziki.

as a true neutral bordering on samm-archist that profoundly disturbs me

Picturing a mass of hot dogs slowly roasting on a gyro wheel. I think I just glimpsed a glorious future.

on your face, forever

there's enough content in that chart to keep ilx arguing for the next eighteen months

I appear to be True Neutral, which is how I like my D&D characters tbh

i'm struggling to understand the mindset of anyone who thinks a chip butty is anything other than a sandwich, a worldview so diametrically opposed to mine that it might as well be extraterrestrial

i think i'm structural neutral, ingredient rebel

in d&d terms that would be what, chaotic neutral? oh shit, am i a sandwich libertarian?

neutral evil i'd've thought, sorry to break it to ya

now I'm wondering whether we should draw the Good-Evil spectrum against structure or ingredients

nah you're right, chaotic neutral, Good and Evil has to be structure-based

glad we sorted this out

thx for yr support nv

gonna read up on Chaotic Neutral, it seems one of the more difficult alignments to define

A hot dog? Meatloaf? The same thing. The same damn thing.

I do like the way that chart allows people a rudimentary language with which to discuss their feelings on this important matter.

However, I think that like any typology it fails to capture nuance and matters of degree. The nature of definers and rule-makers is to categorize. The nature of exuberantly questioning humankind is to defy categorization. Consider the burger whose bun is a doughnut. Consider the late lamented Double Down, in which fried chicken acted as bread. This is why I think the only solution is to move away from binaries and toward spectra.

Nobody much cares what I think, but: my philosophy is one of relative sandwichness rather than a binary is/isn't. I believe a BLT is more of a sandwich than a hot dog is. AND I think a hot dog is more of a sandwich than a Pop-Tart is. AND a Pop-Tart is more of a sandwich than Bolivia or trigonometry or a Chevrolet Camaro is a sandwich.

One might call the opposite position... hotdogmatic.

oh god no

yeah I kind of think in terms of set theory whereby a hot dog belongs to the absolute set of sandwichness but not necessarily to the core sandwich set

Is a Gyros a sammich?

Is Goofy a dog?

Is a hot dog a giro?

Noodle, yeah in legal philosophy this is sometimes referred to as core vs. penumbra.

A "core" case would be one that the statute is intended to cover. In the classic example, a statute that bans vehicles from a park is obviously intended to cover cars. A "penumbra" case would be one not considered by the creators of the law, such as a skateboard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart%E2%80%93Fuller_debate

Good thing we're not discussing whether or not cereal is a soup.

can't believe we haven't tackled the oreo question itt

xp uh cereal is obviously a stew.

"Not the thing that springs to mind when you say sandwich" is sort of my wife's criterion. Her test is like, "If you asked for a sandwich and somebody brought you (X), would you be satisfied or boggled?"

If I said "Hey, I'm making some soup. Want some?" and then I brought you a bowl of cereal, you'd be like WTF?

If I said "Hey, I'm making a sandwich. Want one?" and then I brought you a taco, you'd be like, um, huh?

(But you'd still eat it, because my tacos are fucking delicious.)

Special cases get special categories, such as breakfast sandwich (e.g., Egg McMuffin) or open-faced sandwich or ice cream sandwich. The extra specificity lets your hearer know what to expect. If you ask for a sandwich and someone brings you an Oreo, you'd be like wtf dude. But if you had asked for a sandwich cookie, you'd be pleased.

can't believe we haven't tackled the oreo question itt

― adolf hitler, the moses hightower of national socialism (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, May 2, 2017 7:57 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Good point. If you chew up a hot dog and spread the resultant paste between two other hot dogs, is that basically an Oreo? Yes. Of course it is.

new display name locked in, cheers

"Sandwoid"TM

Any food product which is pureed and packed into a casing counts as a hot dog, I'm pretty sure. Similarly, one could argue that the contents of a hot dog removed from the casing would be considered a food product.

WaPo: 'A hot dog is a taco. A steak is a salad. A Pop-Tart is a calzone.'

hot dog is a pizza via the Four Foods Theory

I don't think it's unfair to assert that resolving the mysteries posed itt is the first step towards universal accord between the peoples of the world.

ugh why is it always the "hot dog isn't a sandwich" people who need to pull out a fucking whiteboard and talk to ruth bader ginsburg

Hotdog is a sandwich.

This is one of my favorite threads.

Poll results are a classic case of hearts overruling minds.

see THIS is why ppl leave ilx

youre all morons

NOT A SANDWICH

― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, July 31, 2015 3:30 PM (three years ago)

^ still posts here

what unites us is greater than what divides us

hot dogs are like tattoos

― oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, July 31, 2015 1:52 PM (three years ago)

The French ones look like they got fused with welsh rarebit

― xelab, Friday, July 31, 2015 1:53 PM (three years ago)

xelab was responding directly to SG btw.

I would be willing to split the difference and accept that a hot dog is half a sandwich. Can we all agree on that much, at least?

Lunch, I am definitely of the school that there are degrees of sandwichness. A hot dog is more of a sandwich than, say, a suspension bridge is. But less than a BLT is.

It might (and perhaps has) been argued that a suspension bridge is just the filling in a discontinuous landmass sandwich.

god these poll results get me steamed

Steamed like a hot dog which is most assuredly not a sandwich, would u say?

Burgers are also not sandwiches

is an open-faced sandwich more or less of a sandwich than a hot dog, and if so why? (because it has sandwich in the name is not an answer i will accept)

By that logic, the Earl of Sandwich would also have been a sandwich.

Or would not have been, rather. And we all know that he was.

an open faced sandwich is not a sandwich

Bears a certain family resemblance one’d have to admit

I would submit that once you establish the bread-->meat-->bread arrangement, the burden of proof shifts to the "not a sandwich" party. And I have not seen one argument re: "not a sandwich" that has gone beyond "it doesn't feel like a sandwich to me."

yes and facts don't care about your feelings of course

I have not seen one argument re: "not a sandwich" that has gone beyond "it doesn't feel like a sandwich to me."

Fair point, PBKR, but. Let's not be too hasty in dismissing that argument on its face (or its open-ended).

A lot of categorization is exactly that. Let's say someone asks you what you want to eat and you say "oh, how about some soup?" Bowl of chicken noodle, cool. Bowl of chowder, okay. Bowl of gazpacho, hell yeah. Bowl of Cheerios... what the fuck?

Now. Somebody asks you what you want to eat and you say, "a sandwich." They bring you a BLT, cool. Croque-monsieur? Cool (even though it is not bread-meat-bread). They bring you an Oreo, you'd be like WTF. A taco? Um, thanks but huh?

A hot dog is a middle case. For a lot of people it does, in fact, hinge on whether it "feels" sandwichy.

Also the framing is flawed.
Peanut butter and jelly; grilled cheese. Neither is bread/meat/bread but both are definitely sandwiches.

A lot of categorization is exactly that. Let's say someone asks you what you want to eat and you say "oh, how about some soup?" Bowl of chicken noodle, cool. Bowl of chowder, okay. Bowl of gazpacho, hell yeah. Bowl of Cheerios... what the fuck?

cheerios relation to soup is not like hot dogs relation to a sandwich at all. soup is composed of vegetable and meat and stock/juice/water. a sandwich is meat between pieces of bread

(apart from the examples you have listed which are exceptions which prove the rule!)

an open faced sandwich is not a sandwich

i’m a chef based in chicago i sell plates for affordable prices ($35-$50). I’m revolutionizing the way we see and taste hotdogs, I need more exposure & more clients. A simple RT/Like can make that happen. pic.twitter.com/dqUAyQkzLx

— JUNKYARDPOPSTAR (@HEFFYRAPS) July 12, 2019

I hate this, but I recently decided David Lee Roth is a genius. So I am paralyzed.

Hot dogs, when you really think about what they are, are horrifying. An affront to nature. And I feel that the best way to truly revolutionize them is to bring their inherent horror to the forefront where it cannot be ignored. This is what I do to your food. Enjoy.

Do you like? I have made your hot dog look like a centipede drizzled with the viscera of an unwell fish. Bon...apetit.

You know that JUNKYARDPOPSTAR (@HEFFYRAPS) is not really a chef right

completely disgusting foods our parents ate

#notallhotdogs

In much the same way that a corndog is unquestionably a popsicle, anyone who's willing to breach all bounds of human decency in preparing a hot dog is a chef in my book.

https://buttondown.email/theswordandthesandwich/archive/notable-sandwiches-89-hot-dog/

Of course, this is one of the defining debates in Internet history—it’s been addressed by everyone from Ruth Bader Ginsberg to John Hodgman, with associated verdicts by myriad major publications and many winking, smarmy Twitter-trend pieces besides. It’s been the subject of frenetic and often tedious contention for over a decade now.

But, dear readers, I wanted—no, needed—to seek out wisdom from higher authorities, rather than simply glean gristle and leftover bits of pre-prepared content and stuff them into the sausage casing of this column.

So I emailed thirty professors of semiotics, linguistics, ontology, psycholinguistics, information science and other pertinent disciplines, and encouraged these academics to get in touch.

I had two chicago dogs for dinner at home last night. Great sandwiches.

Tea is soup

Soup is tea probably more accurate.

I'm just going to refer to anything edible as "food" from now on and not bother being more specific

hot dogs are a Christmas movie are not a sandwich

"Sometimes a hotdog is just a hotdog (by the way, this must be written as one word, as it is a compound noun; "hot dog" describes a dog… that is hot). "

people who think English is German:

Sarah Stroup, Philologist and Professor of Classics, University of Washington
Jesse Sheidlower, Lexicographer, Columbia University; Former Editor-at-Large, The Oxford English Dictionary
Frankie Huang, Consulting Semiotician
J.D. Connor, Associate Professor, Media Studies, School of Cinematic Arts, University of Southern California
Jim Lohmar, Senior Lecturer of Classical Languages, College of Charleston

hot dog describes a sandwich
hotdog describes skiing

I'm on Team 'It's a Weird Sandwich, But Close Enough', in part because if it ain't a sandwich, then it's a freak of nature.

I think in degrees of sandwichness. A hot dog is more of a sandwich that than a chair is a sandwich.

But a BLT is more of a sandwich than a hot dog is.

Please see this story in which a man in New Zealand and a man in Spain Noth placed bread on the ground at the same time. For a brief time, the earth and everything on it was a sandwich.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a30633840/earth-sandwich/

Last night I was thinking that a definition of "sandwich" might be: some sort of protein wrapped in some sort of carbs, which would make you, dear reader, a sandwich—and I am a sandwich, as well.

This is funny, and this may be an idiotic question, but which part of the human body is a carb now?

mmmm parts of yr liver really and that's about it

You are meat in a skin casing. You are a sausage.

“You’d expect supermarkets around the world to have the exact same kind [of bread],” Naude told The World. “Apparently not.”

What?

this debate is a clear broth