AGNES VARDA, mother of the nouvelle vague

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Ooh, good news! I've always wanted to see Lions.

Cherish, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link

mur murs is great, & uncle yanco's one of the most perfectly formed things she did, i think - it's so vibrant & formally inventive & beautiful.

i watched le bonheur last night, i'm kinda patchy with the earlier films, they're nice but i come to them expecting the wrong things on account of the richness of her later/essayistic work

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link

i saw her discuss La Pointe Courte after this screening a few months ago. She is in fact tiny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfC0UBiTG4g

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link

At least you didn't call her the 'grandmother' of the nouvelle vague

Le Bonheur's ending is like the beginning of Haneke. Cleo is as good as any French film classic from the time.

The docs and in-between experiments are def overlooked. Lions is proto-reality tv.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link

Came across this today: http://cleojournal.com/category/vol-3-issue-2-camp/

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link

i watched le bonheur recently also & dug it v much

also watched the jane birkin one kung fu master/le petit amour - considering the premise its surprisingly watchable but id not really recommend it, best part is prob charlotte gainsbourg who you can already tell is a natural actress

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link

Embarrassed to say that I've never seen anything by her. Where should I start?

The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 22:53 (nine years ago) link

Cléo

rack of lamb of god (WilliamC), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link

Cleo, La Bonheur, Le Pointe Courte.

Docs are as important. Mur Murs is great, she is probably the only French filmmaker who did anything of note with her time in America (not that others from that generation made any serious attempts)

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 August 2015 09:27 (nine years ago) link

gorin! on a not dissimilar wavelength.

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 13 August 2015 09:40 (nine years ago) link

good shout actually.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 August 2015 10:11 (nine years ago) link

interesting (to me at least) abt le Bonheur -- its wiki entry had previously described the guy as proposing a threesome to his wife after she confronts him abt his affair. I thought this was bizarre but maybe like lost in translation or something. That ref has since been removed & the wiki cleaned up & edited w/ some historical perspective also in connection w/ some class project, v cool

johnny crunch, Thursday, 13 August 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link

Docs are as important.

The Gleaners and I

Jacquot de Nantes (after you've seen a few Demy films)

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 August 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link

the scene where he's explaining his affair in beautiful bucolic return-to-nature fantasy apple orchard terms is so unbearable, seinfeldian menage hints would've been preferable

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 13 August 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link

The Gleaners and I

One day I'll see it..

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link

so good. need to watch more.

e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:27 (nine years ago) link

prob too obv to mention, but vagabond <3

drash, Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:30 (nine years ago) link

She's awesome yeah

Her films show up from time to time on mubi, though not as often as marker. Also docalliance put a load if her films up for free a while ago.

Surprised nobody has mentioned the beaches of Agnes yet, so good

killfile with that .exe, you goon (wins), Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:34 (nine years ago) link

yep

Sandrine Bonnaire is amazing in Vagabond

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link

I'm not big on Cleo but Le Bonheur, Vagabond, The Gleaners and I are impressive.

Would love to have heard the breakfast chatter between her and Jacques Demy.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 August 2015 01:22 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...
two months pass...

chats with Miranda July about generational shifts, Jane Birkin, work and family—and the time capsule that is KUNG-FU MASTER.

When a woman works, you say, ‘who’s caring for the kids,’ when a man works, nobody asks. I remember people, they would ask me and I would say, ‘Do you ask Truffaut?’

https://www.fandor.com/keyframe/the-lens-miranda-july-and-agnes-varda

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 November 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link

she's so great.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 12 November 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link

four weeks pass...

so much varda on mubi a few months ago, i got overwhelmed and watched none of it

carly rae jetson (thomp), Thursday, 10 December 2015 14:38 (nine years ago) link

She met Castro, after several attempts – it was a last-minute affair at his favourite seaside restaurant. “He was good-looking, nice, calm,” Varda remembers. She made him stand before two huge boulders, so he appeared to have wings of stone. In her film, she noted: “He incarnates Cuba the way Gary Cooper incarnates the wild west.”

gag

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2015 14:42 (nine years ago) link

The Moré photo is beautiful. Would watch a Varda doc on post-coup Cuba.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2015 14:43 (nine years ago) link

Really hope they restore Marker's Cuba Si someday (if someone hasn't done that already?) The Varda doc is so good.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 10 December 2015 14:47 (nine years ago) link

seven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb6EFdB1x1E

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 8 August 2016 07:09 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

Lions Love is fantastic.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 03:06 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...
three weeks pass...

A.V. was on hand to introduce One Sings, the Other Doesn’t at NYFF yesterday. I liked the first hour fine, but the next 45 mins were a little heavy on mid-'70s feminist acoustic-guitar ballads extolling Engels and pregnancy.

It was a new DCP, apparently forthcoming on Criterion?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link

he next 45 mins were a little heavy on mid-'70s feminist acoustic-guitar ballads extolling Engels and pregnancy.

I initially read this as "mid-'70s feminist acoustic-guitar ballads extolling EAGLES and pregnancy.

the general theme of STUFF (cryptosicko), Monday, 2 October 2017 16:53 (seven years ago) link

only if she had stayed in L.A.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 17:11 (seven years ago) link

Don & Glenn From 5-7

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link

What did they think of her work?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

Loved One Sings, the Other Doesn't when i saw it last year - really liked the journey from of the two friends (in the context of so much talk of female friendship in fiction this slots right in), the Iranian journey (although Varda's Iranian work in the context of the Shah could be a troublesome aspect), as all r/ships, was v well done - one of her best films. The songs and their filming on unsuspecting punters was kinda funny and not cruel. Playful.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 October 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I liked the punter reactions. The Iranian trip didn't make me think of Varda re the Shah but about Teheran on the eve of revolution.

I haven't watched this, is it just excerpts from OStOD?

http://bbook.com/film/watch-agnes-vardas-1976-short-film-plaisir-damour-en-iran/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:57 (seven years ago) link

I have seen that short a few years before OStOD and can't remember. In fact its what I was thinking of - lots of ppl got money off the Shah during that period, so...troublesome.

As a piece of cinema - divorcing the politics for now - it works.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link

well, when Orson Welles and tons of Hollywood productions shot in Spain in the '50s and '60s, they said you could get all the resources you wanted as long as Franco's minions got their money.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 19:38 (seven years ago) link

I still haven't seen An Angel at My Table but I'm inclined to wag my finger at her for championing Sweetie.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 16:33 (seven years ago) link

Criterion needs to do a sweepstakes surrounding this closet.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 16:42 (seven years ago) link

They'd have to cap the number of movies you could take. I'd have far less shame than the people they typically feature.

jmm, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 16:55 (seven years ago) link

You'd have a tough time outdoing these clowns:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSdxbBsShak

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link

ugh i was just thinking about that, it looked like they took like 50 movies

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:49 (seven years ago) link

I mean, I'd grab exactly 53 myself ... and then a few more DVD-to-BR upgrades to boot.)

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:56 (seven years ago) link

Amoeba has a similar video series and I feel conflicted about watching them since I know that they're just trying to ease me into an acquisitive mindset.

jmm, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link

Certainly putting the word "collection" in their brand didn't already serve the same purpose.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 18:02 (seven years ago) link

was afraid she'd died (sorry Agnes, you're probably immortal, I know)

anyway <3 that closet picks! :)

Ludo, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link

well holy shit I had no idea ELECTION was being added to the Collection! sweet list, Eric! gonna preorder that one ASAP, one of my favorite movies

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link

A.V. was on hand to introduce One Sings, the Other Doesn’t at NYFF yesterday. I liked the first hour fine, but the next 45 mins were a little heavy on mid-'70s feminist acoustic-guitar ballads extolling Engels and pregnancy.

It was a new DCP, apparently forthcoming on Criterion?

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius)

Saw this screening also and had a similar reaction. Too many songs! And acting was inconsistent. Didn't realize the mother of "Pomme" was played by the mother of the actress.

Josefa, Sunday, 8 October 2017 05:55 (seven years ago) link

Faces Places had its poignant moments but she's shot and made to act like an old little dear.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:11 (seven years ago) link

multi-critic debate I witnessed had one fiercely insisting this film is not "twee"

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:37 (seven years ago) link

It's too brief and amiable to give offense, but the reviews I've read that praise her attention to the working class don't mention how touristic the approach

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:43 (seven years ago) link

Twee's a moving target. A fresh from film school trust fund floppy haired boy? Twee. A French octogenarian who has frequently shared air with Chris Marker? She gets a pass.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:54 (seven years ago) link

how about a classic director having her Godard-aping co-star take photos of he bare feet while she gigges?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:05 (seven years ago) link

Split decision. I know nothing about this JR character, so he may torpedo the whole thing.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:46 (seven years ago) link

well, she is an old little dear.

A fair amount of this was staged/written, no? like the Godard 'villainy' climax.

I was tired and almost nodded off a few times, but Agnes OTM in the cemetery.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link

I liked the tough union wives

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 17:48 (seven years ago) link

hahaha

Varda on her honourary Oscar https://t.co/4fScxq2BdE: pic.twitter.com/zdJowFkyTc

— Women Film Directors (@women_direct) October 9, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 November 2017 16:31 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

Agnès Varda! https://t.co/QUCMeXBVTL pic.twitter.com/2BF4JagBiw

— Jackson McHenry (@McHenryJD) January 23, 2018

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

Faces Places worked better on me the second time; it's about AV's mortality to a large degree, the Cartier-Bresson graveside scene being crucial

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link

gotta be honest, this bump scared me

flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link

I haven't watched this yet because I get annoying Mr. Brainwash vibes from the co-director.

Chris L, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

gotta be honest, this bump scared me

― flappy bird, 15. maj 2018 18:59 (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Otm :(

Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link

You don't have to love JR to like the film. I'd probably sleep with him, tho.

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link

Jesus, I thought you dummies had killed her by bumping this, don't do that!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

she's still working! what are we supposed to do?

turns 90 in a week or two

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:26 (six years ago) link

assorted retros going on, esp at MOMI in NY

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/5707-agn-s-varda-on-the-cusp-of-ninety

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 May 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

This (Faces Places) was terrific, very moving.

WilliamC, Monday, 11 June 2018 02:25 (six years ago) link

I saw Kung-Fu Master! yesterday, where Jane Birkin falls for a 14-year-old boy (played by Mathieu Demy). Good, strange little film, oddly not protested by any snowflakes I could see.

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 June 2018 05:55 (six years ago) link

Filmstruck had a large program of Varda films for six months and that was one of the few I missed. :(

WilliamC, Monday, 11 June 2018 15:21 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

First of all, VARDA STILL ALIVE.

Just got out of a DCP screening of One Sings... Really beautiful and still timely, albeit perhaps a tad too long?

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 August 2018 02:35 (six years ago) link

Reviewing the thread, I see my issues have been brought up already. One funny thing is how that wordless song at the end is more or less "Dust In The Wind".

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 August 2018 03:04 (six years ago) link

missed the DCP when it was here in July, out on home video yet?

flappy bird, Sunday, 19 August 2018 06:35 (six years ago) link

Vagabond is still the only Varda I've seen

flappy bird, Sunday, 19 August 2018 06:35 (six years ago) link

Janus Films is touring it, so I imagine Criterion will have it out sooner or later.

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 August 2018 07:27 (six years ago) link

And I assume that edition will have The Pleasure of Love In Iran (a companion short featuring three of the lead characters) as a bonus.

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 August 2018 07:38 (six years ago) link

There's already a perfectly fine Region B Varda Blu Ray set that includes One Sings...

https://curzonartificialeye.com/the-agn%C3%A8s-varda-collection/

Ward Fowler, Monday, 20 August 2018 07:58 (six years ago) link

Saw the trailer for her latest film and I despise JR. What possessed her to collaborate with this creature?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 13:52 (six years ago) link

he made a quick impression, eh

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 14:01 (six years ago) link

well she usta like Fidel Castro too

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 14:01 (six years ago) link

She might still like Castro for all we know!

Seriously, I think Varda could've just hung around Hoxton/Shoreditch for a few weeks and got it out of her system instead?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 14:14 (six years ago) link

@ ward i don't have a region free player :(

flappy bird, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 17:36 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

Don't scare me, thread.

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 14 February 2019 20:20 (five years ago) link

we're not gonna lock it just cuz she's 90

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 February 2019 20:43 (five years ago) link

Like Aaliyah (and Ryan Adams?) said: "Age ain't nuthin' but a number, Morbs."

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 14 February 2019 21:05 (five years ago) link

The new one is a delight. A bit slight, mostly just Varda talking about herself for two hours, but who doesn't want that? Made me want to rewatch all her films and make my own.

Frederik B, Thursday, 14 February 2019 21:44 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

RIP

Alba, Friday, 29 March 2019 10:50 (five years ago) link

☹️☹️☹️

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 March 2019 10:55 (five years ago) link

should have lived forever. Glad she managed to make a film THIS YEAR.

Cleo de 5 a 7 probably the greatest nouvelle vague movie ever.

Ludo, Friday, 29 March 2019 11:26 (five years ago) link

Infinite respect for working until the very end

flappy bird, Friday, 29 March 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link

at least she lived to become a meme on instagram?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 29 March 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link

v sad news

i saw vagabond for the first time last year and it is pretty incredible

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 29 March 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link

i saw her talk at screenings at least twice, and she seemed both warm and thoroughly unsentimental. (See the cemetery scene with JR.)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 March 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link

My little obit.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 March 2019 04:49 (five years ago) link

nice.

Faces Places was pretty corny, but the bizarre Godard scene (including and especially Varda's reaction) kinda saved it for me.

Ludo, Saturday, 30 March 2019 11:33 (five years ago) link

JR is a no no as a collaborator although now she has gone maybe I think maybe the fault is with me - she was so good at seeing something in everyone and all the places she visited.

Carolee, Barbara and now Agnès. Three women who only got the recognition they deserved in the last few years of their life and who were making work til the end. Programmers and funding bodies must take note and give women retrospectives (and money!) before the end of their lives.

— Another Gaze: A Feminist Film Journal (@anothergaze) March 29, 2019

^ this tweet is all the usual rhetoric (the larger point is true enough) but it doesn't make sense in regards to Varda. She realised her vision early on (no 'lost' years) just kept making film after film and doc after doc, working till the end. There have been solid retros of her work in London for as long as I've known French film and she has never been upstaged by her husband at all or had her work brushed aside. The 'Grandmother' thing rankles tho'.

Only Godard left now isn't it? Its all so sad to see this amazing generation of filmmakers go.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 March 2019 12:59 (five years ago) link

Happiness which is top 3 Varda - is playing on MUBI

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 March 2019 13:29 (five years ago) link

Not in the US, but they are showing three others.

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 March 2019 14:09 (five years ago) link

it doesn't make sense in regards to Varda

agreed, she was everywhere the past few years -- they even had a life-size standee of her greeting folks at the MOMI in Queens.

a few of her films are still pretty obscure, some very deservedly so (like the one she made on the 100th anniversary of cinema). but the great ones are pretty well recognized as such and widely seen.

it's easy to be cynical about varda's meme-ification of late, what with her becoming a sort of virtual den mother to lots of female artist intragammers and so on, or at least they treated her as such. but i try not to be, because every bit of attention she got was well-deserved, her work deserves wide exposure, and it's important for young people to have someone like her to look up to and by which to claim a heritage.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 30 March 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link

also she was, like, literally everywhere -- travelling constantly, making appearances in paris (of course), london, new york, los angeles.... AFAICT she seldom ended up cancelling visits, even in her late 80s. not so shabby.

speaking of female french filmmakers, clare denis is making a ton of appearances in NY next week/end, and then is showing up in chicago as well.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 30 March 2019 17:25 (five years ago) link

life-size standee

she was like 5'1" or something--maybe even shorter in her old age. so my friends and i towered over said standee. i think her size had something to do w/ the way she was often treated, somewhat condescendingly that is, although she sometimes leaned into that "eccentric little granny" thing in recent years.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 30 March 2019 17:27 (five years ago) link

vagabond is all-time btw.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 30 March 2019 17:27 (five years ago) link

late to the party and stating the obvious but on friday I watched Cleo & La Pointe Courte - I was struck by how Varda beat Bergman to the Persona punch by 11 years with that one profile shot. the Resnais connection is less striking I guess since he edited it, and I'm assuming nicked quite a bit from the experience for Hiroshima and Marienbad.

flappy bird, Monday, 1 April 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link

I watched Beaches of Agnes and it has got to be one of the most exciting and successful memoir films I can recall. Some of her work doesn't click w/ me but this did. I feel like a schmuck for waiting over a decade to watch it.

Chris L, Monday, 1 April 2019 17:55 (five years ago) link

NYT:

It was also during (the California) period that she befriended Jim Morrison, the frontman of the Doors, who visited her and Mr. Demy in France; according to Stephen Davis’s “Jim Morrison: Life, Death, Legend” (2004), she was one of only five mourners at Mr. Morrison’s funeral in the Père Lachaise cemetery in Paris in 1971. That same year she became one of the 343 women to sign the “Manifesto of the 343,” a French petition acknowledging that they had had abortions and thus making themselves vulnerable to prosecution.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/29/obituaries/agnes-varda-dead.html

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 15:15 (five years ago) link

AO Scott counters, a little, Alfred's evaluation of "late Varda as brand":

By putting herself — body, voice and mind — in the frame as she made her way across beaches and marketplaces, Varda insisted that filmmaking could be a kind of companionship, a communal act of looking, wondering and feeling. What makes “The Gleaners and I” and her last feature, “Faces Places” (co-directed with the artist J.R.) so moving is that they create a bond between director and viewer that feels very much like friendship.

I don’t mean this to sound soft or sentimental, or to create a misleading impression of niceness. Friends can be difficult. Friendship is demanding. It is also transformative, and if Varda was among the most welcoming of directors, she was also among the most rigorous and radical. Her movies are intensely personal, which is another way of saying that they are profoundly democratic. That’s the history that needs to be written.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/29/movies/agns-varda-appreciation.html

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link

I rewatched Le Bonheur last night, and, boy, I undersold its radicalness. I forgot how ambiguously she treats what happens to the spurned wife.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 15:30 (five years ago) link

I'd count 'Varda by Agnes' as a feature too, though, and it's a very nice final look back.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 15:34 (five years ago) link

For the French speakers ARTE recently broadcast two hours of her "film class" at the Cinématheque. Along with the full 8- episode series of Bertrand Tavernier's "Voyage à travers le cinéma français" ( also 2019 ) it's essential viewing.

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 16:10 (five years ago) link

I think that film class is 'Varda by Agnes'?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 16:18 (five years ago) link

Yes, you're right!

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link

wow

Madonna was touched by the story of Cléo [a story of a women waiting for a cancer diagnosis], and she asked a woman to adapt the screenplay for her. It was OK with me. But her mother had cancer and died, and she quit the project. If I had remade it in the US at the time, I thought it should be a black woman being afraid of Aids – in those years, Aids was such a terrible threat. I would have loved to make it with Whitney Houston.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/mar/29/agnes-varda-last-interview-i-fought-for-radical-cinema-all-my-life

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:47 (five years ago) link

There's a clip of Varda and Madge appearing together on a French talk show and discussing the by then abandoned remake on the Criterion box set edition of Cleo, but that Whitney thing is new-ish and amazing.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:40 (five years ago) link

I had forgotten about Bonnaire getting old Aunt Lydie drunk in the last half hour, a delight.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 April 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link

*the last half hour of Vagabond, that is.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 April 2019 16:48 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

La Pointe Course was a good first film, although ultimately a little schematic. Le Bonheur and One Sings, the Other Doesn’t were both fantastic I thought

Le Bonheur was an interesting critique of male psychology. Its use of color was striking and had the effect of making the evanescence of happiness in the story more poignant

Dan S, Saturday, 14 September 2019 01:30 (five years ago) link

apparently on its release in 1977, Amy Taubin found One Sings, the Other Doesn’t insufficiently radical, but she completely revised her opinion in an essay for Criterion this year

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/6399-one-sings-the-other-doesn-t-bodies-and-selves

Dan S, Saturday, 14 September 2019 01:31 (five years ago) link

*La Pointe Courte*

Dan S, Saturday, 14 September 2019 01:33 (five years ago) link

One Sings is didactic but endearing enough to more than make up for its message movie tendencies

flappy bird, Saturday, 14 September 2019 04:58 (five years ago) link

the songs, oy

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 September 2019 05:16 (five years ago) link

lol

Dan S, Saturday, 14 September 2019 06:37 (five years ago) link

Calling this film didactic is just lazy. I mean how many people knew or cared to know what this film talks about at the time it was made.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 September 2019 06:52 (five years ago) link

watching it again Vagabond still seems really moving

Dan S, Thursday, 26 September 2019 03:38 (five years ago) link

Need to watch that again. Saw it when it first came up and was worried about how it was going to work but seems like many obvious pitfalls were avoided.

The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 September 2019 03:40 (five years ago) link

Calling this film didactic is just lazy. I mean how many people knew or cared to know what this film talks about at the time it was made.

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, September 14, 2019 2:52 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

I like it a lot, but it's exactly what you said, a movie of its time

flappy bird, Thursday, 26 September 2019 03:49 (five years ago) link

don't think xyzzzz___ was saying it was a movie of its time though

Dan S, Thursday, 26 September 2019 04:02 (five years ago) link

what was revelatory in 1977 comes off as stiff, but OSATOD more than makes up for it

flappy bird, Thursday, 26 September 2019 04:42 (five years ago) link

The issues in that film are all around us so no it's not a film of its time.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 September 2019 07:00 (five years ago) link

I appreciate “The Gleaners and I” more seeing it again. I don’t find interviews and voice-over exposition in general all that interesting, but in this film they seem perfect

Dan S, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 01:34 (five years ago) link

a natural subject matter for her, as a 'gleaner of gleaners'

“…and then there is my hand up close. I mean, this is my project: to film with one hand my other hand. To enter into the horror of it. I find it extraordinary. I feel as if I am an animal, worse, I am an animal I don’t know.

And here’s Rembrandt’s self-portrait, but it’s just the same in fact. Always a self-portrait.”

Dan S, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 01:50 (five years ago) link

Cinévardaphoto is a nice trio of short films

Dan S, Saturday, 12 October 2019 01:25 (five years ago) link

Beaches of Agnes is really great, it is both nostalgic and forward thinking and is so beautiful, it's one of my favorite films of hers

Dan S, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 03:59 (five years ago) link

I remembered a moment from beaches of agnes the other day, when she's on the boardwalk at the card sale, she finds a flyer for Documenteur and says "Oh! my favorite"

flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 04:49 (five years ago) link

she had such a generosity of spirit

Dan S, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 05:14 (five years ago) link

the reminiscences of her many lives in Beaches of Agnes reminds me of all of the Varda films I still haven't seen

Dan S, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 22:29 (five years ago) link

saw JR’s The Chronicles of San Francisco and revisited some of Agnes Varda’s documentaries recently, then this week rewatched Faces Places and was even more taken with it than I was the first time. I like the quote above about her films forming a bond with the viewer that feels like friendship

Dan S, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 01:00 (five years ago) link

Varda tries to unmask JR’s identity, or at least get him to take off his sunglasses, even pressing his grandmother

Dan S, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 01:30 (five years ago) link

“prepared to sit right inside their own hearts”. I liked the whole exploration about how much of ourselves we are willing to give to another

Dan S, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 01:34 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

Did she do any lesser feature than Lions Love? Ragni, Rado and Viva seem like the 3 most annoying bohos in '68 LA.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link

Lions Love is fantastic.

― aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Monday, January 23, 2017

'splain!

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:33 (four years ago) link

lol, I have no memory of the film now. Obviously it make a strong impression at the time though!

Miami weisse (WmC), Monday, 10 February 2020 22:54 (four years ago) link

Don’t think I made it to the end of that one

TS: Kirk/Spock vs. Hitchcock/Truffaut (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 February 2020 23:03 (four years ago) link

Did she do any lesser feature than /Lions Love/? Ragni, Rado and Viva seem like the 3 most annoying bohos in '68 LA.


Not sure but you are OTM about the leads in this. Should be so much more substantial given the luck of being in LA in June 68

flappy bird, Monday, 10 February 2020 23:54 (four years ago) link

It's SET then, over a mere week, but I'm sure they cheated some. There was a billboard for The Odd Couple visible in one car scene that read "2 Academy Award Nominations," which had to be shot in early '69.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 01:16 (four years ago) link

Ohhh gotcha

flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 01:26 (four years ago) link

Shirley Clarke otoh is magnetic, but she doesn't have enough scenes.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 02:01 (four years ago) link

yeah iirc we're stuck with those fucking hippies for most of it

Uniquely irritating in a way that ruins the movie for me, just like Stranger Than Paradise

flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 02:48 (four years ago) link

one month passes...
one month passes...

This August, we're celebrating the boundless creative vision of Agnès Varda with a comprehensive collection of her genre-blurring, culture-shaping films, bringing together all thirty-nine of her features, shorts, and documentaries for the first time! 🧡💜💗https://t.co/qYMbWfwmus pic.twitter.com/7nMiXmPdqs

— Criterion Collection (@Criterion) May 11, 2020

flappy bird, Monday, 11 May 2020 17:09 (four years ago) link

omg

herds of unmasked cletuses (WmC), Monday, 11 May 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

And indeed, I now have that set, just arrived today. I look forward to exploring it in full steadily over time.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link

I'm seeing some reviews that some (but not all?) of the older color films have been piss filtered.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 20:25 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

did she ever do another movie as dark and angry and formally cutting as Le Bonheur? not Vagabond, that's presented in a much less oblique way.

flappy bird, Thursday, 29 October 2020 07:31 (four years ago) link

No, I don't think so.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 October 2020 08:06 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

So, "Les Creatures". Michel Piccoli goes berserk and attacks some children and an old man with a dead cat; has a conversation with a rabbit about his wife's pregnancy (the rabbit answers him btw); plays a weird chess game, using holograms of the other characters in the film, with an evil scientist. Catherine Deneuve is in it but is mute for almost the entire film. Varda considered it a failure and I'm inclined to agree with her. Definitely worth watching though!

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:27 (three years ago) link

Agreed. Nice showcase for FrancoScope, like watching a movie through a goddamn fishbowl.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link

Piccoli later compared the character he played in Les Creatures to the character he played in Dillinger is Dead, only one of Marco Ferreri's multiple masterpieces.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link

Did she do any lesser feature than Lions Love? Ragni, Rado and Viva seem like the 3 most annoying bohos in '68 LA.

The two guys are terrible but Viva is great, though I wish there'd been less of her doing her patented Warhol wack job routine and more bits like the straight-to-camera monologue she does at the end.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, 22 January 2021 00:41 (three years ago) link

Never made it through that one

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 January 2021 00:48 (three years ago) link

I barely made it through the first 10 minutes tbh.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, 22 January 2021 00:53 (three years ago) link

Viva is good, I like her more in Cisco Pike though (where she has some direct addresses as well, iirc)

flappy bird, Friday, 22 January 2021 01:44 (three years ago) link

And they're all so old! Viva was 30 and the two Hair guys were even older, Jim Rado was born in 1932! I couldn't see past the wig he had on too.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 January 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

I must have said this elsewhere but I'm slowly filling (the vast) holes in my film knowledge and am largely being led by what I read on here. I've watched a couple of Vardas in the last week (Gleaners and Cléo From 5 To 7) and it has been like discovering a new author in some ways. This may just be coming to understand film grammar, but there's something very literary about her use of symbolism and the authorial frame.

Varda makes things seem so simple, almost as if there were barely an editing process at all; both films in their way, particularly Gleaners, feel like dérives. I know the answer is 'wherever the rapid passage through varied ambiences takes you,' but where does one go next?

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

I searched for this image because *eyes on stalks*. Didn't even notice the angel wings at the time.

https://www.classicartfilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Cleo-2.bmp

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

I watched Le Bonheur last year, and I thought it was devastating... so pretty to look at, but such a dark outcome

Also: Vagabond holds up really well, such a good film

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

New bio coming out by Carrie Rickey looks promising!

Thrapple from the Apple (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 July 2024 05:51 (five months ago) link


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