Niche interest regional politics threads ftw.
India seems to be sliding further into sectarianism by the week. A string of top scientists and artists have returned state-awarded honours in protest at the growing "culture of intolerance" and failure to stem fanaticism.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-34664597
Along with the lynching of a Muslim for allegedly eating beef, there have been several cases of 'rationalist' / 'left-wing' historians and academics, like Dr Malleshappa Kalburgi, apparently killed for presenting a version of Indian cultural heritage at odds with right-wing factions.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-34105187
Critics of the critics have pointed out that quite a few of them were happy to accept honours from Indira Gandhi after Operation Blue Star so are in no position to judge.
RSS, the ruling BJP's sister organisation, has called for a "national population policy" to correct the demographic shift caused by increasing numbers of Christian and Muslim Indians:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/RSS-calls-for-national-population-policy-to-correct-demographic-imbalance/articleshow/49613558.cms
Al Qaeda, whatever that means these days, seems to have taken credit for the latest in long line of attacks of secular writers and bloggers in Bangladesh.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/31/asia/bangladesh-blogger-killed/
There was a bomb attack on Shi'ite worshipers last week:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34625375
and "ISIS" appears to be getting in on the action, killing two foreign nationals in targeted gun attacks.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34634743
Nepal is in the middle of a constitutional change, which would have some positive aspects, including mandated percentages of female MPs, but has been fiercely opposed by minority groups who feel it marginalises them. A protest blockade, which had meant the country ran out of fuel several times over the last week, has just been removed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-34696080
There has been some positive news from Pakistan recently, though, despite the ongoing problems. The economy is growing, perceptions of corruption are lower and there's a general sense of a return to some kind of normalcy, from what i hear.
― Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Monday, 2 November 2015 09:11 (nine years ago)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/09/narendra-modi-the-divisive-manipulator-who-charmed-the-world
Strong piece from Pankaj Mishra in the Guardian ahead of Modi's visit to the UK, a country that maintained a full diplomatic boycott of him (including travel ban) between 2002 and 2012.
Feel like “hit the fraudulent literati with boots” is a slogan that could be re-purposed elsewhere to positive effect though.
― Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Monday, 9 November 2015 22:04 (nine years ago)
Salman cleared of all charges!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-35059007
Pretty outrageous but not wholly surprising.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 10 December 2015 09:07 (nine years ago)
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/PM-Modi-pays-tributes-to-Netaji-Subhas-Chandra-Bose/articleshow/50693626.cms
Modi has declassified 100 documents relating to Chandra Bose, some of which apparently lend more credibility to the idea he died in a plane crash.
Any squeamishness about heaping praise on him seems to have evaporated. India's cultural centre in Nepal was recently renamed in his honour, which presumably went down well with the Gurkhas.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Sunday, 24 January 2016 10:21 (nine years ago)
Lots of sedition going around atm:
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/02/india-jnu-sedition/462567/
Indian student leader arrested for sedition after protest over hanging.
“If anyone raises anti-India slogans, tries to raise questions on country’s unity and integrity, they will not be spared,” said Rajnath Singh, a BJP lawmaker who serves as India’s home minister. “Stringent action will be taken against them.”
http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/sedition-charge-against-the-daily-star-editor/article8224270.ece
Editor of Bangladesh's biggest English medium newspaper charged with sedition for criticising the current PM during the 2007-2008 military government.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/south-asia/Former-Bangladesh-PM-Khaleda-Zia-to-appear-in-court-accused-of-sedition/articleshow/50719449.cms
In a separate case, Bangla's last PM is also being charged with sedition related to comments about the 1971 war deemed unpatriotic. The case has been filed by a government ally rather than the state itself but he intentions are pretty clear.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Saturday, 13 February 2016 14:04 (nine years ago)
28 dead and hundreds injured in protests / riots related to caste quotas in India:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-35638161
A proportion of government jobs are allocated to "Backwards Castes" - a designation that currently excludes Jats. The Jats want in, Congress had indicated they would agree but the move has subsequently been blocked on the grounds the community is too privileged to qualify.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 February 2016 08:44 (nine years ago)
This was interesting:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35809798
Someone hacked into the Bangladesh Central Bank and started sending transfer requests to the Federal Reserve Bank in New York, tapping into the country's foreign currency reserves. NY eventually cottoned on, noticing a combination of higher-than-average traffic and elementary spelling mistakes, but not until the hackers had pinched $100m. Had it all gone to plan, they would have received $1bn.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 12:29 (nine years ago)
https://newrepublic.com/article/133014/new-face-india-anti-gandhi
Long, detailed profile of Modi and the allegations against him in The New Republic.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 19:02 (nine years ago)
Terrible-sounding hostage situation in Dhaka. Two RAB officers killed and at least 20 people being held hostage, supposedly by a group claiming some kind of affiliation with ISIS. It's in the fancy Gulshan district and a lot of the hostages are thought to be Italian.
ISIS' own claims are that 24 have died already though that is obvs unconfirmed.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Friday, 1 July 2016 23:02 (nine years ago)
28 dead including 20 hostages. This was right in the middle of the embassy district and a stone's throw from the Australian High Commission i've been to. Looks like it was chosen as a relatively soft target (would probably still have armed guards) in an area guaranteed to have lots of foreigners.
There are lots of western commentators saying 'well, of course - Bangladesh has failed to crack down on militants' but you can't really go more than a day reading the local papers without seeing "RAB kills three resisting arrest" or "two killed as RAB search hideout" tucked away in a small column on page seven. Sheikh Hasina (who incidentally is the aunt of the British Labour MP Tulip Siddiq) has led a deeply authoritarian, militarised campaign against Jamaat-e-Islami, the local equivalent of something like the Muslim Brotherhood which may have inflamed things even more. It looks like some are switching to 'ISIS' instead, which Hasina has always played down.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Saturday, 2 July 2016 09:38 (nine years ago)
It is looking like a majority of Italians and Japanese amongst the fatalities. I don't know if this is just propaganda: "Bangladesh's Daily Star newspaper said the gunmen tortured anyone who was unable to recite the Koran. They provided meals overnight for only the Bangladeshi captives, it said."
― calzino, Saturday, 2 July 2016 10:04 (nine years ago)
obviously this is trivial but i can't imagine any cricket teams visiting bangladesh for the next...indefinite period (see pakistan)
― imago, Saturday, 2 July 2016 10:07 (nine years ago)
i say trivial but it must be these goons' partial intention to cut bangladesh off from the world
― imago, Saturday, 2 July 2016 10:08 (nine years ago)
England are touring in October. Wouldn't be enormously surprised to see it switched to UAE but the World Cup went ahead without any problems .
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Saturday, 2 July 2016 10:20 (nine years ago)
what is the likely policy response to this do you think
― imago, Saturday, 2 July 2016 10:47 (nine years ago)
Probably even more of a crackdown on generic 'Islamists' targeting both Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen who have been responsible for most of the bombings / attacks not attributed to ISIS and Jamaat-e-Islami who form a fair proportion of the political opposition. 3000 people were arrested last month, hundreds of them opposition political activists not linked to militant activity. It'll probably be used as a tool to consolidate power. The interesting thing will be whether Hasina acknowledges that ISIS is proliferating as a brand. She has been extremely reluctant to do so.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Saturday, 2 July 2016 10:55 (nine years ago)
The Bangladeshi government has rejected ISIS' claim of responsibility for the cafe attack and decided it was the work of Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen and a former army major who has supposedly been trying to organise a coup.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/bangladesh-names-two-masterminds-behind-dhaka-attack/story-nOurUyHk2j3uUAe5r7zcwM.html
Nine 'suspected militants' were killed by the police in a recent raid.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 14:03 (nine years ago)
The Canadian 'mastermind' of the cafe attack was killed alongside two other people in a police raid yesterday:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/08/bangladesh-police-kill-main-dhaka-cafe-attack-suspect-160827050800585.html
Which is arguably quite handy if you don't want anyone contradicting the government line that it wasn't ISIS.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Saturday, 27 August 2016 07:29 (nine years ago)
The language training institute i went to see today ran a series of ads last week along the lines of "had you learned your English with us, you'd have got the full $1bn!", which went down very badly with the government but was pretty funny.
obviously this is trivial but i can't imagine any cricket teams visiting bangladesh for the next...indefinite period
They're staying at the same hotel as me rn!
The government announced yesterday that they'd killed 33 militants since the cafe attack, which given that they killed 11 this week, seems a pretty conservative estimate. It's BAU at the moment, though. The only change is that if you're standing outside an office block the armed guards will casually wander across to stand in front of you in case you get shot.
Myanmar say nine police officers were killed on the Bangla border this week during clashes with Rohingya rebels:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/10/myanmar-nine-police-killed-insurgents-bangladesh-border
India / Pakistan is heating up again with Modi more or less putting the country on a war footing over Kashmir. He has ordered arms manufacturers to stand by to ramp up production and has suggested that Indian troops will move into Pakistan if they feel the need to go looking for terrorists there - having bombed Pakistani Kashmir last month.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Will-breach-LoC-to-hunt-terrorists-India-tells-Pakistan/articleshow/54774376.cms
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Monday, 10 October 2016 15:49 (eight years ago)
This is...bold.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37906742
Modi announced earlier today that 500 and 1000 Rupee notes are being withdrawn from midnight, will cease to be legal tender for transport or state business from Friday and may not be accepted for bank deposits after December the 31st. There are varying estimates but around half of all daily cash transactions (by value) are in those denominations and over 80% of cash wealth is held in them - which for a lot of families, will be how they keep their savings.
It's a bit like saying all US notes over $10 are being cancelled at the end of the week and anyone with $100 or more in cash will have to swap it for new bills and explain its origins. It could bring a lot of cash into the system or it could go horribly wrong. The big complaint from Indian capitalist reformers has often been that too many people keep their money in cash or gold and banks don't have enough liquidity.
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 18:55 (eight years ago)
man do all the announcements have pictures of him on them? that's kind of weird.
― xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 21:54 (eight years ago)
Nawaz Sharif has just been ordered to resign by Pakistan's Supreme Court! He was linked to corruption exposed in the Panama Papers. Unanimous 5-0 verdict.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 28 July 2017 07:32 (eight years ago)
This seems like it could be huge and a bit surprising to me, coming from Modi/BJP. The fact that they seem to have no detailed plan on how to pay for it is a little worrying.:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/01/business/india-modi-health-care.html?emc=edit_th_180202&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=64660325&referer
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 February 2018 22:46 (seven years ago)
Nepal's ruling coalition partners CPN-UML and CPN Maoist Centre unify to form Communist Party of Nepal, with Marxism and Leninism as the governing ideology: https://thehimalayantimes.com/kathmandu/uml-maoist-centre-unify-party-named-communist-party-nepal/
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 23 February 2018 23:03 (seven years ago)
This seems like good news. Aiui they’ve never really gotten along well and merging the parties is designed to put barriers in the way of one or the other pulling out of the coalition.
The move to bring Maoist parties into the democratic process as been legit impressive and seems to have a much better prospect of long term success than the fairly fragile peace in Colombia.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 24 February 2018 02:19 (seven years ago)
That all makes sense. I'm interested to see what this government can achieve.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 February 2018 02:35 (seven years ago)
Congrats to the Awami League on winning, uh, 96% of the seats in the Bangladeshi election:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-46718393
― ShariVari, Monday, 31 December 2018 17:39 (six years ago)
Er...
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 01:54 (six years ago)
https://scroll.in/article/902177/no-hindi-hindu-hindustan-implemented-fully-bjps-hindutva-renaming-will-wipe-out-a-lot-of-india
interesting piece on the BJP's current renaming drive. reminds me of efforts to purge english of latinate and greek words like percy grainger's 'blue eyed english'. quaint can turn to fascist p quick.
― ogmor, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 10:11 (six years ago)
Ugh, yeah, they also renamed Ross, Neil, and Havelock islands after Subhash Chander Bose (independence leader who conflicted with Gandhi and teamed up with WW2-era Germany and Japan to form the Free India Army): https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/01/india-strips-islands-british-colonial-names-renames-freedom/
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 16:14 (six years ago)
This story is really fascinating to me: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/02/indian-women-form-620km-human-chain-in-support-of-lifting-of-temple-ban
A recent Supreme Court ruling overturned a proscription on pre-menopausal women entering the Sabarimala Ayyappa temple in Kerala. The priests and Hindu traditionalists have been (physically) fighting against the change, with BJP support, and have blocked many women from entering, with feminists and the Communists (who rule Kerala at the state level) fighting on the other side, including the formation of a 620 km human chain. Two women have entered and prayed now, which has been followed by protests and 'purification' of the temple by priests.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 16:19 (six years ago)
Some quality Indian English in some of the quotes btw:
“Have the Communists desecrated Sabarimala shrine by facilitating entry of women of restricted age group into the temple? Devastating, if true.”
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 16:21 (six years ago)
Nationwide strike; five states basically shut down. Is this getting any Western coverage outside extreme left rags?
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/india/trade-unions-strike-evokes-mixed-response-on-day-1-complete-bandh-in-kerala/amp_articleshow/67440537.cms
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:56 (six years ago)
Not that I’ve seen - perhaps there is a perception that hartal/ bandh is so common in India it no longer qualifies as news.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:11 (six years ago)
They still cover French protests but yeah. This does seem big; idk how it will play out. Violence is worrying but unsurprising.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:34 (six years ago)
We will ensure implementation of NRC in the entire country. We will remove every single infiltrator from the country, except Buddha, Hindus and Sikhs: Shri @AmitShah #NaMoForNewIndia— BJP (@BJP4India) April 11, 2019
https://thewire.in/rights/assam-nrc-may-campaign-marginalise-muslims
Rolling further towards open religious fascism.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 11 April 2019 19:32 (six years ago)
Are they really excluding anyone whose name does not appear on the Mar 1971 electoral rolls and is not a descendant of someone who does (or an Indian citizen who moved to Assam)? Sounds nuts.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 12 April 2019 14:30 (six years ago)
Good news for Gautama at least.
What's a reliable source for Indian news? Not knowing the media landscape there, I tend to only read about it in the Guardian.
― rob, Friday, 12 April 2019 14:34 (six years ago)
Ha, yeah, "except for Buddha" jumped out for me too.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 12 April 2019 14:42 (six years ago)
Awful news from Sri Lanka. Three hotel and three churches bombed, it looks like. Reporting at least 137 dead.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 21 April 2019 07:09 (six years ago)
Horrible. Forgive my ignorance, but have there been significant tensions between religious and/or ethnic communities lately?
― pomenitul, Sunday, 21 April 2019 08:05 (six years ago)
Not as far as I know, it seems comparatively out of the blue.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 21 April 2019 08:34 (six years ago)
How awful. My quartier has a large Sri Lankan population, mostly Tamils. Many go to mass with us, and people were lamenting this Easter morning.
― L'assie (Euler), Sunday, 21 April 2019 08:49 (six years ago)
I read somewhere that the police were warned of an imminent church attack last week, but I'd imagine it wouldn't have been the first time. Lots of predictable Islamophobic shit coming from the usual suspects and I'm reading it might have been committed by Bodu Bala Sena - the Buddhist extremists.
― calzino, Sunday, 21 April 2019 08:49 (six years ago)
Another explosion.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 21 April 2019 09:00 (six years ago)
2 police officers confirmed dead in 7th blast.
― calzino, Sunday, 21 April 2019 09:03 (six years ago)
8th blast. Fucking hell.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 21 April 2019 09:19 (six years ago)
wtf.
― calzino, Sunday, 21 April 2019 09:21 (six years ago)
there is going to be a nationwide curfew that begins in 3 hrs and a shutdown of all social media and messaging services.
― calzino, Sunday, 21 April 2019 09:38 (six years ago)
The seventh and eighth bombs seem to have been set off as the attackers were being chased down by the police. They were not high-profile targets like the others.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 21 April 2019 09:58 (six years ago)
death toll up to 207 now.
― calzino, Sunday, 21 April 2019 12:29 (six years ago)
So awful
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 April 2019 12:44 (six years ago)
Is there a reason why Bodu Bala Sena would want to kill tourists? Serious question.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 21 April 2019 15:46 (six years ago)
it probably wasn't them. But lots of ppl seemed quite sure who was responsible literally 20 mins after the first few blasts occurred. The usual suspects though.
― calzino, Sunday, 21 April 2019 17:02 (six years ago)
Jesus. All my Sri Lankan colleagues seem to be ok but someone from our US office visiting them was killed at the Cinnamon Hotel.
― ShariVari, Monday, 22 April 2019 12:47 (six years ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/29/indonesia-election-270-officials-die-as-overwork-takes-toll-in-huge
wtf! I thought there might have been an erroneous extra zero, but everyone else is reporting the same.
― calzino, Monday, 29 April 2019 07:57 (six years ago)
BJP set to win 300+ seats. All I'm hearing from Indians are lamentations: ppl decrying Rahul Gandhi; debate about whether the Congress party even has any future; lots of concern about possible electoral fraud; ppl pointing to the state of the media & coarsening of discourse. Amartya Sen has spoken of Modi's magic, his magical thinking and his way of tricking ppl with over-hyped policies like his healthcare bill and demonetization. Seems that the Indian right have been v successful in getting ppl to vote not on governance or the economy but on identity and security.
― ogmor, Thursday, 23 May 2019 21:39 (six years ago)
300/543 seats for one party is wild when there are, what, 30 parties in the Lok Sabha? Even wilder when the economy is actually doing badly. I will be surprised if the party of Nehru and the Gandhis never recovers. I don't really know why they stuck with Rahul after 2014, though. Good for the South for resisting the right wing tide, I guess, but the overwhelming global rightward shift continues to be worrying.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 23 May 2019 22:53 (six years ago)
https://www.theonion.com/india-continues-surge-towards-status-as-first-world-nat-1834980952
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 24 May 2019 03:16 (six years ago)
866k people in Bhopal voted for Sadhvi Pragya, currently on bail for a string of charges related to the 2008 Malegaon bombings.
― ShariVari, Friday, 24 May 2019 05:58 (six years ago)
This is quite good on the roots in the decay of Indian democracy, mapping it back to its beginnings:
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2019/07/18/indira-gandhi-long-undeclared-emergency/
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 20 July 2019 15:31 (six years ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/15/india-millions-stateless-assam-red-tape-illegal-immigrants
this is some next level hostile environment volkisch nationalism from the BJP, trying to make millions of indians stateless
― ogmor, Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:35 (six years ago)
Yep, and as the article points out, Assam is only the first stage. The long-term objective is going to be 200m, not 4m.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 15 August 2019 10:28 (six years ago)
I'm wondering what the people who have thought about it actually expect to happen to all these people
― ogmor, Thursday, 15 August 2019 10:37 (six years ago)
i.e. do they expect to expel people en masse (and if so how many) or do they expect ppl to stay and treat them however they like?
― ogmor, Thursday, 15 August 2019 10:39 (six years ago)
'Ends > means' is likely the full extent of their pangs.
Or, as Ion Antonescu put it, 'I don't care if we go down in history as barbarians'.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 10:40 (six years ago)
I strongly suspect the objective is a system where Muslims are largely politically disenfranchised but are not actively deported - just left to live as second-class residents. If you want to combine democracy and exclusionary ethno-nationalism, Israel would be the model to copy.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 15 August 2019 10:45 (six years ago)
Jesus. Fuck the BJP.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 August 2019 20:33 (six years ago)
What happened in London today Is least of India’s concerns. Only country that should worry about this is UK. UK is fast becoming terror hub and they won’t be able to save themselves— Sunanda Vashisht (@sunandavashisht) August 16, 2019
the total lack of any real disagreement that the UK is on the verge of being ruled by fundamentalist jihadis in the comments on threads like these is incredible, not really sure how you go about addressing it without getting immediately dismissed
― ogmor, Friday, 16 August 2019 08:33 (six years ago)
State propaganda has lost nothing of its effectiveness in the internet era…
See also: Russian 'documentaries' about the 'no-go zone' that is Paris.
― pomenitul, Friday, 16 August 2019 08:40 (six years ago)
Wait, is this a reference to the stabbing in front of the Home Office? Does that have anything to do with Islamic terrorism? I can't find any other major news stories about attacks in London.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 16 August 2019 14:31 (six years ago)
Thread = insane tho
Oh, is it about 10 people being arrested for the killing of a police officer in Berkshire? I don't see any news about a major terror attack on the BBC or Guardian pages. This is surreal.
We saw videos from the Indian high commission in Britain-istan. Their capital city London-istan is ruled by one Caliph Sadiq.— Shailendra Mishra (@tweet2ssm) August 16, 2019
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 16 August 2019 14:44 (six years ago)
It's not about a specific terrorist event. The mindset is very similar to that of the 'Eurabia' boosters on the European far-right, the fiction that Europe is being taken over by Muslims resonates with the idea that India is losing its Hindutva due to a (very marginally) higher Muslim than Hindu birth rate.
Population control is Modi's big new idea and there was a proposal raised by a BJP politician (which Modi hasn't endorsed aiui) that Muslim family size should be legally restricted.
― ShariVari, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:05 (six years ago)
So "what happened in London today" = "a generally increasing Muslim population in the UK"? That's bizarre. Lol @ Indian Hindus being concerned about the white British population getting outnumbered, though.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 16 August 2019 15:09 (six years ago)
What happened in London was just a protest outside the Indian Embassy
― ShariVari, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:10 (six years ago)
Oh, that's ridiculous.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 16 August 2019 15:12 (six years ago)
"Make Tea Not War" is a quality slogan.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 16 August 2019 15:13 (six years ago)
iirc it's an old peace punk slogan
https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a3558793968_16.jpg
― sleeve, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:16 (six years ago)
(sorry for size)
― ogmor, Friday, 16 August 2019 bookmarkflaglink
Just wondering how different is that from I dunno just having a bunch of Tories being in their own bubble on twitter or fbook? I've seen threads with almost no disagreement in the past.
The Indian population demographic shift scares have been around for a long time. I remember my aunt vividly talking about it way before Modi came into the picture on a visit to India.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:19 (six years ago)
This is purely anecdotal, of course, but my Indian neighbours are deathly afraid of setting foot in certain parts of the city I live in due to the mere presence of a 'visible' Muslim community there. Like ogmor said, it's almost impossible to have a reasonable conversation when this topic comes up; the animus is just too deeply embedded.
― pomenitul, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:21 (six years ago)
kingfish has been posting some good Mark Fenster quotes on FB(from Fenster's 2010 book on conspiracy theory), and this comes to mind:
‘By definition, conspiracy theory perceives itself to be continually dominated and manipulated by its more powerful conspira- torial adversary. This holds true even when conspiracy theorists have amassed enormous resources or the power of the state—even then, the conspiracy is always on the verge of complete victory. Thus, in govern- ment regimes based on the fear of a secret group, such as the Third Reich and the U.S. Congress in the throes of McCarthyism, the fear of a Jewish or communist conspiracy was based on the fear of a group con- sidered more powerful than the nation in peril. In contemporary liberal democracies, individual conspiracies may be exposed and condemned by society on a regular basis (for example, Watergate, Iran–Contra). By contrast, conspiracy theory as a totalizing phenomenon, as a whole way of life, continually finds itself frustrated by its inability to persuade and affect the political order.‘
― sleeve, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:22 (six years ago)
I think that initial tweet was a follow up to a tweet about the protests. All these tropes have been in the air for quite a long time but there seems to be less pushback now and the state of political discourse on Indian social media seems as bad as anywhere
― ogmor, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:23 (six years ago)
I liked how there was a lot of heated debate over Priyanka Chopra's tweet on kashmir
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:36 (six years ago)
Awful: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-49382682
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, 17 August 2019 18:56 (six years ago)
Yes.
And so is this you can see where it's going:
How casually Hindu extremists in India call for ethnic cleansing of Muslims at a BJP rally. pic.twitter.com/0YztEo9znM— Ashar Jawad (@AsharJawad) August 18, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 15:11 (six years ago)
Depressing, to say the least. It very much confirms what ShariVari posted upthread.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 15:23 (six years ago)
Then again, fascism is invariably obsessed with fertility rates and reproductive behaviour.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 15:26 (six years ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/aug/30/nightmarish-mess-millions-assam-brace-for-loss-of-citizenship-india
The Hindu nationalist-led government of Narendra Modi, which supports the project in Assam, has pledged to roll the process out across the country. The home minister, Amit Shah, has previously promised to deport immigrants, describing them as “termites”.The BJP-led Assam state also plans to build an additional 10 detention camps to house those declared to be migrants.
The BJP-led Assam state also plans to build an additional 10 detention camps to house those declared to be migrants.
I hadn't realized the BJP planned to do this outside of Assam, though it's obvious in retrospect. The prospect of both China and India detaining Muslims in camps en masse (not to mention what the US is doing) is making my blood run cold the way it usually does only when reading climate change reports
― rob, Friday, 30 August 2019 14:22 (six years ago)
Jesus. I guess they were waiting to win a second term before they went all in?
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 30 August 2019 15:26 (six years ago)
The most honest man in the BJP. pic.twitter.com/6Q4D43uo0d— Rahul Gandhi (@RahulGandhi) October 21, 2019
seem to have been a lot of concerns about the companies who make and maintain the electronic voting machines
― ogmor, Monday, 21 October 2019 08:01 (five years ago)
I've never known what problem electronic voting machines are supposed to solve, what advantage they provide over simple paper ballots.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 21 October 2019 14:04 (five years ago)
there is none, the machines are specifically made & designed for voter fraud imo
― Book Doula (sleeve), Monday, 21 October 2019 15:50 (five years ago)
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/09/world/asia/india-muslims-citizenship-narendra-modi.html
Mr. Modi’s fellow lawmakers in the B.J.P. are unapologetic about their pro-Hindu position.“There are Muslim countries, there are Jew countries, everybody has their own identity. And we are a billion-plus, right? We must have one identity,” said Ravi Kishan, a famous action-film hero and member of Parliament who is a central supporter of the citizenship legislation.
“There are Muslim countries, there are Jew countries, everybody has their own identity. And we are a billion-plus, right? We must have one identity,” said Ravi Kishan, a famous action-film hero and member of Parliament who is a central supporter of the citizenship legislation.
― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Monday, 9 December 2019 14:23 (five years ago)
Lok Sabha passes Citizenship (Amendment) Bill. 311 votes in favour of the bill and 80 against it. Live updates here: https://t.co/Onl48CsBEJ pic.twitter.com/PISAtnjhHy— Times of India (@timesofindia) December 9, 2019
― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Monday, 9 December 2019 18:48 (five years ago)
Have to admit that I've been avoiding reading about this stuff because it feels like too much to process emotionally which, yeah, is privileged etc. Will get to it all in one go soon.
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 03:29 (five years ago)
Similar thing with Brexit and the UK:
“The economy is in tatters,” said Aman Wadud, a human rights lawyer in Assam. The bill, he said, was “the only issue left to polarize the country and distract people.”
As there are less returns to be had from Capital hate against the minority...
The same playbook in Brazil, the US, much of Europe.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 14:48 (five years ago)
Mass protests happening in India, centred around universities, against the new citizenship law. Meeting heavy repression from police with tear (and possibly worse) gas and (possibly live) ammunition.— libcom dot org (@libcomorg) December 15, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:26 (five years ago)
Jesus
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Monday, 16 December 2019 00:10 (five years ago)
https://amp.scroll.in/article/947545/in-assam-an-adivasi-man-burned-to-death-last-week-as-caa-protestors-targetted-shops-of-outsiders?
The mob on a rampage against all
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 December 2019 09:47 (five years ago)
A BJP minister reminding Muslims of the Gujarat genocide. "The majority here is capable of repeating it" https://t.co/wSspBFMYjK— Rana Ayyub (@RanaAyyub) December 20, 2019
Stuff like this reinforces the obscenity of idiots like Ian Bremner who backed Modi as an ‘economic reformer’ currently churning out articles about how disappointed they are in his far-right turn. Apparently overseeing one pogrom killing 2000 people while governor wasn’t enough to tip them off that he might be a wrong ‘un.
― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Sunday, 22 December 2019 15:33 (five years ago)
No words
― Un sang impur (Sund4r), Sunday, 22 December 2019 19:46 (five years ago)
In UP, Muslims have been picked up en masse from all over,thrashed, their homes barged into, properties confiscated & met with live fire on streets. And no one will be prosecuted because it is being done by the State. UP is already Hindu Rashtra. A thread on chilling reports(1/n)— Asim Ali (@AsimAli6) December 26, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 December 2019 12:08 (five years ago)
Thanks for sharing that. It's horrible. Could this be as bad as the 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms?
― Un sang impur (Sund4r), Friday, 27 December 2019 01:16 (five years ago)
Kerala becomes the first state in India to pass a resolution against CAA in legislative assembly. All members except the lone sanghi there voted in favour. Another proud Malayali moment :)#IndiaDoesNotSupportCAA pic.twitter.com/cJpUdRGpAl— Sankar Das (@mallucomrade) December 31, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 08:08 (five years ago)
Good for Kerala, although I hope this spreads wider than a tiny state.
― Un sang impur (Sund4r), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 16:40 (five years ago)
Doubt it but I am going to taking any glimmer of hope.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 16:49 (five years ago)
Good news (I think):
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/11/india-modi-ruling-party-poised-to-lose-delhi-election-after-polarising-campaign
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 14:49 (five years ago)
Pogroms taking place in Delhi..
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:33 (five years ago)
Mobs using data to work out who to target:
Wow! What fantastic use of technology. Using an app, rioters identified vehicles belonging to the Muslims and then burnt them down.#DelhiRiots #DelhiBurning #delhivoilence pic.twitter.com/21CG5g7zan— Chaai Wala (@Chaai_Wala) February 26, 2020
Absolutely not an unforeseeable/ unforeseen consequence of the government-level move to ensure everyone is trackable online and irl.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:41 (five years ago)
fuck this is horrible
― pet friendly (Euler), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:49 (five years ago)
Horrifying
― Sund4r, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:50 (five years ago)
xp
Over 200 million Muslims call India home. Widespread anti-Muslim mob violence has killed at least 27 and injured many more. Trump responds by saying, "That's up to India." This is a failure of leadership on human rights.https://t.co/tUX713Bz9Y— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) February 26, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 22:10 (five years ago)
so incredibly grim
― ogmor, Thursday, 27 February 2020 09:12 (five years ago)
It’s grotesque and the coverage is almost universally lying about it too.
― median punt (gyac), Thursday, 27 February 2020 09:47 (five years ago)
Soul-crushingly depressing, but I can't say I'm surprised, what with a fucking firestarter at the top.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Thursday, 27 February 2020 09:50 (five years ago)
Hard to even read: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/india-delhi-after-hindu-mob-riot-religious-hatred-nationalists
― Sund4r, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 02:40 (five years ago)
following events through arts/food/politics-related indian twitter is strange/bathetic/poignant, ppl talking about how to gently persuade modi-sympathising relatives, very dark humour, outrage with centrist platitudes... when the stakes are raised the discourse still follows the same rules. makes this piece about the media and discourse around the 2002 gujurat violence and rwanda in the 90s very interesting imo
https://thepolisproject.com/journalism-as-genocide/#.Xl4cL6j7SCo
― ogmor, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 09:09 (five years ago)
lots of reports of dalits being attacked as well, par for the course I suppose
― ogmor, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:10 (five years ago)
There's a strong anti-leftist / anticommunist element to this as well. RSS types are obsessed with the idea of 'urban Naxalites' undermining the country.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:23 (five years ago)
Waiting for the first cricket team to refuse to play India. You'd have thought New Zealand would have, if anyone. Maybe today at the WWC?
― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:28 (five years ago)
Tomorrow even
― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:29 (five years ago)
A cousin linked me this to correct the misinformation I have apparently been exposed to from the MSM. It certainly provides an, um, alternative perspective: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=140303730563256
― Sund4r, Saturday, 14 March 2020 17:32 (five years ago)
Really alarming situation described here for vast numbers of people who are stranded under the sudden lockdown, with reports of widespread police violence: https://www.democracynow.org/2020/3/26/amitav_ghosh_india_coronavirus_lockdown
― Sund4r, Friday, 27 March 2020 03:05 (five years ago)
With this and his Kashmir actions I believe Modi's solidly in the lead and pulling away from the field as the most horrible authoritarian elected president right now. When you consider the field includes Duterte and Bolsinaro, that's quite an achievement.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 27 March 2020 04:18 (five years ago)
leading the vanguard of never-letting-a-crisis-go-to-waste, uttar pradesh suspends almost all labour laws for 3 years to spur investment https://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/up-govt-to-exempt-businesses-from-all-but-three-labour-laws-for-3-years-120050701531_1.html
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Sunday, 10 May 2020 17:11 (five years ago)
Tesla should move it's factory over there
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 10 May 2020 17:47 (five years ago)
Haven't brought myself to read the last story yet but this story seems to put the rest of the world to shame: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/14/the-coronavirus-slayer-how-keralas-rock-star-health-minister-helped-save-it-from-covid-19
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 14 May 2020 19:04 (five years ago)
It's fantastic! I posted that on the UK pols thread
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 May 2020 19:20 (five years ago)
Yeah, I thought of putting it on Canadian politics, esp as Kerala has basically the same population size as Canada (and is more dense). Our handling of this doesn't seem as satisfactory anymore.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 14 May 2020 19:21 (five years ago)
Impressive!
― pomenitul, Thursday, 14 May 2020 19:26 (five years ago)
Three Indian soldiers killed in a clash with the Chinese Army in Galwan Valley.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 09:12 (five years ago)
So this situation has been going for a while?
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 09:13 (five years ago)
Since independence, i guess, but this is apparently the first time anyone has been killed in 45 years.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 09:17 (five years ago)
There was a Chinese 'incursion' about three weeks ago, i think, that kicked things off again.
Actually, to be more accurate, i think the incursion came as part of the Chinese response to India building a new bridge across the valley, against China's objections.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 09:19 (five years ago)
apparently now it's up to 20 casualties
― dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 18:20 (five years ago)
The report I heard mentioned hand to hand combat, rocks and clubs used, it sounds as brutal and deadly as army combat gets without shots being fired.
― calzino, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 18:26 (five years ago)
I saw that too. 20 soldiers beaten to death strains credulity imo, but obvs it's too early to know anything concrete
― dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 18:30 (five years ago)
yeah the subtext probably is shots were fired but neither side can admit that.
― calzino, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 19:29 (five years ago)
The two armies jostled and hand-to-hand fighting broke out – neither side armed in line with decades of tradition supposed to ward off the possibility of escalation between the nuclear-armed neighbours.Then an Indian commanding officer was pushed, fell from the narrow ridge and plunged to his death in the gorge below.Reinforcements from the Indian side were summoned from a post about 4km away and eventually about 600 men were fighting with stones, iron rods and other makeshift weapons in near-total darkness for up to six hours, Indian government sources said, with most deaths on both sides occurring from soldiers falling or being knocked from mountain terrain.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 07:38 (five years ago)
jfc!
― calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 07:56 (five years ago)
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-india-52990324?
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 10:56 (five years ago)
Not even the well connected middle-class are being saved. The BJP will be ramping up their culture war etc. to max levels to get auntie voting for bigotry at the next election.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 11:03 (five years ago)
afaict the main control in place to combat COVID is a 9pm - 5am curfew. idk what what's meant to do other than curb potential disorder.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 11:26 (five years ago)
xpostok wow I hadn't realized the insanity of fighting in that kind of terrain
― dip to dup (rob), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 11:47 (five years ago)
It's off-the-scale crazy. These are two advanced, nuclear-armed superpowers fighting with sticks in the dark for six hours.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 12:02 (five years ago)
Looks like Modi has blinked. Says there was no incursion into Indian territory. China has subsequently reiterated that the valley is within their LAC.
Good to see it de-escalate.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Saturday, 20 June 2020 09:12 (five years ago)
Indian government proceeding with criminalizing intermarriage: https://t.co/3hdeBSMXpL— Murtaza M. Hussain (@MazMHussain) December 5, 2020
Genuinely interested to see how far he can push stuff like this and still have Western leaders pal around with him.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Saturday, 5 December 2020 11:58 (four years ago)
In a country where love was meant to be a celebration, Narendra Modi has criminalised interfaith love because it is a regime that has survived and sustained on hate. My take on legitimising the dangerous and fictitious Love Jihad theory in @PostOpinionshttps://t.co/agSPBTm7vF— Rana Ayyub (@RanaAyyub) November 29, 2020
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Saturday, 5 December 2020 11:59 (four years ago)
Wtf? No way this is constitutional?
― actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 December 2020 13:30 (four years ago)
Likely not, but it will have to go to court first
― rob, Saturday, 5 December 2020 14:44 (four years ago)
Kerala High Court did rule this way: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/all-interfaith-marriages-not-love-jihad-court/articleshow/61147349.cms
― actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 December 2020 16:56 (four years ago)
Heartbreaking and believable: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/23/pollution-killed-nearly-17-million-people-in-india-in-2019-study
― They sold me a dream of Christmas (Sund4r), Thursday, 24 December 2020 06:03 (four years ago)
why aren’t we talking about this?! #FarmersProtest https://t.co/obmIlXhK9S— Rihanna (@rihanna) February 2, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 15:07 (four years ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/18/indian-mosque-bulldozed-in-defiance-of-high-court-order
― rob, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 16:20 (four years ago)
Ugh, that seems shockingly brazen, even for the BJP.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 16:48 (four years ago)
In other shockingly brazen, even for the BJP news...
Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram have been put on notice in India and may cease to exist for failing to comply with Centre's new I-T Act. New social media rules to come into effect on May 26. @maryashakil shares more details with @ridhimb pic.twitter.com/wLvsSbbOqH— News18 (@CNNnews18) May 25, 2021
The short version seems to be that they forged some documents suggesting Congress was planning to run a campaign that would ‘tarnish the image of the country’ over COVID, Twitter labelled it as ‘manipulated media’ when senior politicians posted it, the police raided Twitter’s offices yesterday and now they, and Facebook, have 24 hours to comply with new laws or face closure.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 07:19 (four years ago)
Wow.
I got a FB msg from a cousin in India today so I'm guessing they either complied or the rules aren't being enforced?
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 17:59 (four years ago)
some follow up here: https://slate.com/technology/2021/06/india-silicon-valley-twitter-google-censorship.html
― trap door to hell opens underneath (rob), Sunday, 13 June 2021 17:18 (four years ago)
Finally read this; it's as depressing as I feared.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 5 July 2021 17:45 (four years ago)
Went back to it after reading this: https://theprint.in/india/journalist-activist-jailed-under-nsa-for-45-days-over-cow-posts-in-manipur-its-not-unusual/684133/
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 5 July 2021 17:53 (four years ago)
Sometimes writing editorials is not required. Just the placement of news is enough pic.twitter.com/9tyP9JkMym— Ghazala Wahab (@ghazalawahab) June 28, 2022
― rob, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 12:57 (three years ago)
o_O
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 13:16 (three years ago)
more on Zubair and Alt News: https://restofworld.org/2021/fact-checking-modis-india/
― rob, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 13:53 (three years ago)
Protesters occupy President's residence, burn down PM's and force both to resign in Sri Lanka: https://www.nytimes.com/article/sri-lanka-president-protests.html
While I don't question that there are good reasons to want a revolution in Sri Lanka, it's v unclear to me what will come next and nothing I've seen suggests that the protesters have a clear idea themselves. Also, one thing I've not seen addressed anywhere yet is whether Tamils or Muslims are represented among the protesters.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 11 July 2022 13:05 (three years ago)
Indian government accused of attack on democracy as 141 MPs suspended:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/19/indian-government-accused-attack-democracy-mps-suspended-modi-bjp
― rob, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 18:33 (one year ago)
Really grim
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 09:37 (one year ago)
Modi has done so many fascist things over the years, it’s so expected
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 09:55 (one year ago)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckdgg87lnkdt
Hasina has stepped down and fled the country.
― ShariVari, Monday, 5 August 2024 10:44 (one year ago)
100+ dead.
― nashwan, Monday, 5 August 2024 12:09 (one year ago)
That was just yesterday, there have been hundreds more since the protests started.
Hasina’s pretty much been operating the Rapid Action Battalion of the Bangla police as a death squad for years so the impulse to shoot first and ask questions later wasn’t a surprise.
― ShariVari, Monday, 5 August 2024 12:17 (one year ago)
🤔 do you notice something about that cover photo. Anything missing? https://t.co/wQGwSwUOng pic.twitter.com/0Ec5mYTdOj— rm (@rmrm232323) August 9, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 9 August 2024 12:16 (one year ago)
Oddly misleading title for the video, but interesting interview with Abhijit Iyer Mitra on an Indian perspective on Russia and American's re-alignment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd4AFNfjDq8
Sees the current global re-alignments very positively and hopes they go faster, pleased with the Trump presidency so far is hopeful of a much closer US-Russia relationship going forward, which is something he's wanted for a long time.
Also makes an interesting point about India being adept and playing divide and rule within Europe (suggesting India was partly persuasive of De Gaulle). Doesn't really see Europe as viable
― anvil, Monday, 24 March 2025 05:08 (six months ago)