Full Frontal with Samantha Bee is amazing

did anyone else watch the first episode? i went in with moderate expectations because while i liked samantha bee on the daily show, i never really thought of her as a standout colbert/carell figure. i was completely wrong. she was born for this role. the first episode surpasses much of what the daily show did, and it completely trounces the trevor noah version. a few of their gags fell a little short (although fwiw others in the room were busting a gut at the same stuff), but for the most part it was just hilarious. the focus appears to be 100% politics, which is fine with me. it relies heavily on the Show a video clip/make jokes Daily Show formula, but she's just much funnier than her competition, in a way that seems natural and unscripted. there was also a little short film about jeb bush (linked below) that started off strange and went into a completely surreal, brilliant place. also, samantha bee is kind of vulgar in a delightful way that's simultaneously raunchier and less juvenile than john oliver.

tl;dr i almost want to say that this is the new daily show you thought you'd never have again, but really i think it's better than that. oliver's show seems like it paved the way for this one.

if you have cable (or a friend's pw teehee) you can watch the first episode here: http://www.tbs.com/videos/full-frontal-with-samantha-bee/season-1/episode-1/episode-1.html

if not, most of the episode is on their youtube channel. i was going to embed these but it might not be a good idea to have 9 youtube videos above the fold on what could be a thread with hundreds of thousands of posts if there is any justice left in this terrible world, so here are the links instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H3mRe-7ra0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZmxdVHIes4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSVCysiGVRM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSmwzj8X3F8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEWevb4pByU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO4nGExCFDc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quoPqs3xccE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhV5aOrz55E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iET5OPnlyGw

noooooooooooooo

i swear i tried to format those so that they were just text links. i've let samantha bee down. now this thread will NEVER get 100,000s of posts

i'll fix. please hold.

Hint: in future, leave the 's' in the 'https'.

i did! or at least, i thought i did. thanks mod.

did that work?

it did. thanks!

I thought it was superb (and hilarious), but when she said something about next week at the end and I realized she wasn't doing a nightly show I felt punched in the gut.

The clips I've seen are great. Is this on Hulu or any other streaming thingy?

I understand if she went to nightly she'd be obligated to pad the show with guests/performances, but I wish there was a nice in-between, where maybe it could be on 2-3 times per week instead of just once. at least during election season, when there's such a surfeit of material (it's been simply tragic that Stewart and "Colbert" the character haven't been around chronicling the lunacy of the past few months).

i'm ok with it being a weekly thing if the show maintains this quality. it would be comforting to be able to check it out when i get home from work every night, the way the old daily show/colbert routine would help me erase unpleasant feelings from the rest of the day, but like (spoilers!) frodo getting on that one boat to cross that one ocean at the end of LOTR, that age has passed.

if you collected all the segments from the full frontal, daily show with trevor noah, and the nightly show with larry wilmore, and arranged them all from least funny to most funny, the samantha bee stuff would be at the very top, even with just one episode's worth of material. so impressive.

Yeah, otm. Watching this, I grew increasingly baffled that she wasn't approached to host TDS, but this format suits her so much better.

the way the old daily show/colbert routine would help me erase unpleasant feelings from the rest of the day

Wilmore's doing this for me; he's been on a serious roll lately.

i gotta circle back to his show - i haven't given it much of a chance since the first month or so, and i'm sure it's a lot better now.

I grew increasingly baffled that she wasn't approached to host TDS, but this format suits her so much better.

yeah, she would have been great with TDS but it's so nice that she doesn't have to bother with doing interviews (the worst part of TDS and colbert report).

Her Nerdist interview made it sound like she had no interest in taking over TDS. She and Jason had already decided they'd leave the same time Jon did, and their Tbs projects just came along at the perfect time.

first ep was very good, and i'm glad it's once a week.

The Wilmore show is 1000% better and funnier now than it was a year ago, or even 6 months ago.

as noted on the Nightly Show thread

This is really good!

And i will tape a few nightly shows. the first three months was patently bad.

Sorry, I do not feel that way about the Nightly Show. I think it is still very bad. The most tolerable/enjoyable bits are when Larry is just talking to the camera. However whenever they deviate from that...

i will give it another shot, but i just didn't think he was very funny. i liked what he chose to talk about and when he took a stance, i agreed, but when it came time to say something humorous, i just never lol'd. but i will try again!

second episode, just as good if not better. the only problem i have with this show is that i want more of it

yep. so fast!

thought about posting her Kasich thing, but it was more righteous than funny

she is absolutely killing it right now

definitely. ppl shouldn't sleep on this show, totally worthwhile

It's completely satisfying to watch her show up Oliver and the Daily Show. I like Oliver but her takedown of Trump vis a vis the RIP GOP thing this week was so much sharper.

Agree that it's the best show of the three, which makes me fear for its security (at 10:30 on a Monday night on TBS).

"10:30," "Monday," and "TBS" are a terrible combination. They couldn't make it less likely for me to see or be able to see it if they tried.

You know what all TV channels should do? Just replay the previous night's talk shows and whatnot the next morning. People are all passing around "viral" clips anyway, everything will be just as timely/funny, there's nothing better to watch in the morning and they don't have to pay to make new content. Conan, Colbert, Kimmel, whomever, just put it on in the morning, too. Who the hell is watching TV 10:30 Monday night? (Granted, I don't know who is watching Monday morning, either, but at least more people are awake.)

They may not be allowed to air certain shows in the daytime due to content restrictions.

Yeah, they should change that, too.

it's a pain in the ass to watch anything at the exact time it airs, that's why we have stuff like On Demand and Hulu now

yeah most of the time i watch it on On Demand a few days later

But it's only 9:30 for you Josh!

True enough, but also don't have cable.

Full episode on the Youtubes: https://youtu.be/nTnPCF9OWHM

this is holding up very well so far

i agree, pleasantly surprised. honestly thought i'd get sick of Bee's persona fast but it's working for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPJHdfzZ5rU

this show isn't incredibly rhetorically sophisticated (by which i mean, it's very blunt and didactic), but it is smart. i like their multi-part piece on the christian right, which argues that politicized evangelism was always about racial identity, and that the support of the religious right for trump is not by any means out of historical character.

As much as I enjoy SB snarking in front of photoshops, the little filmed pieces of this are the highlights for me. The Bergman JEB! film haunts me to this day. I can't think of a better satire show at the moment (recommendationsS), not least because she's not afraid to get rightously angry.

her team is excellent and poised to get real famous.

The Halloween episode was Samantha at her best. Love her.

Her young millennial impression is on point

http://www.slate.com/blogs/schooled/2016/06/17/the_upper_west_side_is_new_york_s_latest_school_integration_battleground.html

Who doesn't like a good school segregator?

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/15069097_1931484700412500_2876756555909321460_o.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/fullfrontalsamb/photos/a.1771924126368559.1073741828.1765033567057615/1931484700412500/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/fullfrontalsamb/videos/1928453617382275/

Who's watching tonight's show with Glenn Beck? I'm excited, I like her so much!

oh dang, i'm definitely gonna watch (tomorrow, though, or whenever it goes up online)

i wish her show could be on every night

So, like, her being in favor of segregated NYC schools isn't a deal breaker?

hmm?

something tells me that's an oversimplification of whatever the heck lpz is referring to.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/schooled/2016/06/17/the_upper_west_side_is_new_york_s_latest_school_integration_battleground.html

it's all jason jones to be fair, but this is something the daily show would make fun of: One P.S. 452 parent speaking out against the move is comedian and former Daily Show correspondent Jason Jones, who’s married to Samantha Bee. "To portray any opposition as classist or racist is as bad as it can get," Jones told WNYC. And elsewhere: "We are not divided,” he said at a public hearing about the proposal, “we are absolutely united in wanting what's best for our children," then encouraged fellow parents not to talk to the press about the controversy.

two white supremacists just palling around for our entertainment pleasure

I think it's pretty hard to find a human being who isn't a hypocrite about something.

but they both dislike trump so let's laud them obv

i remember this from when it first came out, definitely does seem like a shitty stance on its face and ideally it would be nice to see she and *Jones at least address it in some context to offer their reasoning. but it hasn't kept me from enjoying her show, no.

*maybe i'm being an apologist for Bee but everything I've seen about this story has only quoted her husband and not her. can't automatically assume they're lockstep on this issue.

two white supremacists just palling around for our entertainment pleasure

it will never stop surprising me how many heroes there are on the internet.

and how many apologists

i'm ready to accept your teachings, just tell me how to live, dammit!

Bee's piece on the liberal resistance was good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm6CnP8CsCw

the entire episode was fantastic. that was one of her very best, i think.

^ Completely agree.

her show feels like the heiress apparent to bush-era daily show, only better

I can never figure out when this show is on. It either seems to constantly be on hiatus or about to come back from hiatus.

it's on wednesday nights. they just came back last week, after a 3 or 4 week hiatus that was unexplained. it would be cool if they ever just updated the website with a "we'll be back in a month!" kind of message.

Hi Josh, I'd recommend watching it on http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC18vz5hUUqxbGvym9ghtX_w

It's usually up on the same night. But if you prefer cable, that's cool.

It's funny looking at one of the series listings they finished season 1 on the 1st anniversary of the show, then did series 2 episode 1 then took a couple week's break so they're now on series 2 episode 3 I think.

^ Yeah, it's been pretty confusing. IMDB lists by season and usually has dates ahead of time, but this is a tough show to follow schedule-wise.

Find some of this funny but was surprised/disappointed about the fawning over Clinton and calling her "a proggesive feminist". Unless that was a joke but I don't think it was.

Some of the interviews seem unnecessarily mocking too.

what's going on here? I thought she was starting a new season but can't see upcoming episodes.
Was the Not the Correspondents Dinner thing a sign off or something?

There's a new episode tonight.

TBS is really isn't doing her any favors though. She'll be back for two, three, four weeks, and then have a week or two weeks off, and then come back, and then be off.

According to tv listings, the next new episode after tonight is on May 31st.

Great segment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE5o4JoyMkE

Again, can never tell when it's on! Tbf, I don't have cable, so I try to find copies of it online, but even when clips proliferate the spots where I can usually find my TV faves there's typically no Sam Bee. She lives in the same weird purgatory as Conan.

I am...curious about how that segment at the left forum turned out

I just have to DVR it, otherwise I'd never know

show is great but the field correspondent segments are kinda cringey to me

> ven when clips proliferate the spots where I can usually find my TV faves there's typically no Sam Bee.

it's on youtube, you tube.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC18vz5hUUqxbGvym9ghtX_w/playlists

Child Brides segment was great

There's a weekly set of Comedy News taht turns up on at least PIrate Bay that it turns up in. That also includes all the monologues from the Night shows like Conan, Stephen colbert etc.

have had a couple of individual torrents of FF recently that haven't worked on my memory stick/tv set up. But could at least watch it on my computer.

Bee has really upped her game IMO, show is on fire

really loved the mike pence/children of the corn joke from this week

It will never not be hilarious that Elizabeth Warren's favorite TV show is Ballers

really loved the mike pence/children of the corn joke from this week

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, June 30, 2017 8:49 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

slightly perturbed that they illustrated it with Village of the Damned children not ones from the right film though

piece on Kurdistan was great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpdoyBhrfI4

In 1988, I volunteered building an elementary school in Costa Rica. My host was a local named Nixon.

she's great but never clear when she's on

yeah too many damn gaps in scheduling

it's so fucking confusing. becomes an act of research to confirm when she's on - which sucks

Jo Miller, the executive producer and head writer of “Full Frontal with Samantha Bee” since its debut in 2016, has parted ways with the show, the network confirmed on Monday.

:(

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/arts/television/samantha-bee-showrunner.html

show has sadly become drastically uneven and still has not got past being patchy as to when it airs. when it's good it's great but the celebrity musical numbers and many of the produced bits are particularly bad. last episode's attempt to engage the acting crew seemed a bit desperate; they need to incorporate them but shuttling from talking head to talking head ain't gonna work.

Hello! First post from a random mutt wandering by. Last week a Samantha Bee show producer spent an hour with me scoping out a story...

Speaking of patchy, that's my byline where I write about furries. Lately there's a bit of a nazi problem in that community, yes that's a word for it lately too...

There's a new book about them out yesterday from Cleis Press. And speaking of the nazi thing here's tags for it (one) (two) if you care.

The news site is a silly hobby thing, but interesting stuff has happened with it. The nazi thing is yet another push into geek groups (along with gaming, sci fi, comics) so we had some infiltrators document them from the inside, which synched with the Charlottesville nazi marching. I documented a couple of them on the scene of violence. We had them do "swatting" against a furry convention with a 5-figure security cost. And there's been more in the news like another convention getting ruined by them, I broke a story about it that Rolling Stone picked up. With all this going on I would be into stepping up the game by learning from peers in indie reporting.

welcome, sparkledog.

your post is really, really interesting, and i bet a lot of people on ILX would want to know more. this isn't the most heavily visited thread - you should check out the the alt-right thread.

(which, to be clear, is a thread for discussing the alt-right, not a thread for alt-righters!)

that's what an alt-righter would say tho

hahahaha
that's where they get you

altfurry fascism. what a world.

yeah, welcome sparkledog; look around you might find some good conversations to join in.

Welcome Sparkledog!

show is still on point

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwSQHAt3lSc

Has it just done the same thing as last year and officially launched a new season then gone on a few weeks holiday? Seems to have been missing since valentine's Day which at least IMDB has as Season 3 episode 2.
Is there any logic behind that. Like why call it a new season and then take a break? I thought the old season was pretty much ongoing up to that point anyway.

seems like they basically run the show through most of the year (season 1 was 39 weeks total, season 2 33) with small breaks throughout. "Season" just seems to mean "year": season 1 runs from Feb. 8, 2016-Feb. 8 2017.

Yeah figured taht was what made most sense that you start counting again at a specific date. Cos does seem to be the pattern that the break comes almost immediately after the year mark passes.
Seem to be back on 14th March from what I saw

was on March 7th, damn is this show confusing to follow schedule wise

yup. super annoying still. plus they do specials like this upcoming Puerto Rico thing which is probably throwing it off

Still good! May 2 episode was great

still good is right

idk why i hate all comedy news format shows except this one

Maybe cuz it’s good my man?

Hold on, did Samantha Bee just get pressured into apologizing for calling Ivanka a cunt? What a pussy.

NEW: White House demands TBS cancel Samantha Bee’s show https://t.co/u9ATGwDxZz

— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) May 31, 2018

this is what it's going to fucking be like from now on? nothing but whataboutisms all fucking day . i hate this shit

Michelle Wolff had the right idea, don't back down, double down.

She shouldn't have apologized. WTF.

I mean it goes without saying that most of the women in that administration are feckless cunts.

nothing but whataboutisms all fucking day

Yup cause their collective mentality is that of a 5 yr old

the only justification I can see for Bee apologizing is that the network threatened to cancel her show if she didn't and she didn't to screw over her entire workforce like that.

*didn't want to screw over

The only justification. Maybe she should've just kept it safe and went redux: Aunt Coulter.

If the network threatened to cancel her show and she relented, then she's stupid, because they're just going to do it again if they don't do it anyway.

Should've gone with "feckless...wherever..."

kinda wish bee had doubled down on her right to say this word or at least accompanied her apology by noting that what she said was not even in the same galaxy as roseanne's remark, but we live in a deeply fucking stupid country that elected donald fucking trump so

Yeah would think it was a precedent one didn't want to set if one is a satire show.
JUst wondering if that devalues her doing the show.
But then I'm used to the word cunt in English usage and heard it was harder in U.S. usage. But still it is true of the whole family so can a defamation charge be brought against it? Thought that was one of the hinge points.

Ivanka is complete and utter trash of course but I'm not happy that SB is just tossing a gift to the perpetually outraged right like this

But who the fuck cares about them? They're perpetually outraged! You think they're going to just shut up now that they smell blood and want a body of their own?

Just wondering if that devalues her doing the show.

Yes. Because who knows what they are nixing behind the scenes. If you back down for a generic insult under pressure from the White House, what else will you back off?

i agree, apologizing does nothing, which is why it's an idiotic move on TBS' part (I'm assuming it wasn't Bee's idea). nothing short of cancellation will appease the chuds.

Michelle Wolff had the right idea, don't back down, double down.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, May 31, 2018 3:33 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think Samantha Bee just might? I mean it's a pretty traditional comedy trope to walk back the blunt phrasing and then twist the knife back in...

I'm not reading her apology so maybe there's less room for that but idk I don't think of SB as being of weaker moral character than MW or any other comic

Her apology is totally weak.

I would like to sincerely apologize to Ivanka Trump and to my viewers for using an expletive on my show to describe her last night. It was inappropriate and inexcusable. I crossed a line, and I deeply regret it.

— Samantha Bee (@iamsambee) May 31, 2018

What a wuss.

I like Samantha Bee a lot, but she is flat wrong to call Ivanka a cunt.

Cunts are powerful, beautiful, nurturing and honest.

— Sally Field (@sally_field) May 31, 2018

Yeah, way to go Sally Field, you have more balls than Bee.

At least the apology was for the use of an expletive and not the content. All these people embracing being a deplorable are all of a sudden super hyped on "civility."

Civility is the new Personal Responsibility.

Look what happened to annoying Kathy Griffin, who took a hundred hits, backed down, ended up in a worse position, and then immediately regretted it, because the president and his entire family are huge pieces of shits.

Civility Under Non-Negotiable Threat.

Everyone is living in a fucking migraine.

does a double n make it more powerful?

i didn't care for how everyone started acting all pearl-clutchy about "cunt" a few years ago

i can think of few ppl on earth who deserve the designation more than SHS

It's because oeople in the US stopped watching Guy Ritchie movies.

lol

I instinctively recoil from the insult tbh

That's probably why it was the right word for her to use.

oh wait Ivanka, not SHS.

well, anyway.

too early to know how this plays out, but most of the ways i see this going are not going to be good for tbs. i don't see how their attempt at "moderation" and "civility" doesn't wind up with their looking like government lapdogs.

something something something samantha bee fake outrage something pic.twitter.com/5bc5PPBGOK

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) May 31, 2018

i would guess after a hard afternoon's thought samantha bee will come to regret it, and that in the end she will end up doing a segment on it that will end with her proudly calling ivanka every other possible name that you can say on TBS, and it will be funny and feel good to watch but in the end hardly anyone will see it

regret apologizing, i mean

Those blowhard right-wingers who say they’re having nothing to do with TBS never watched it to begin with.

Michelle Wolf is awesome. Her new show isn’t great but she’s easy to admire

Also sally field is a total class act

we really like her!

The right uses asymmetrical, dirty warfare while liberals line up in single line formation waiting for a battle of manners no one cares about.

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) May 31, 2018

But norms! And mores! And traditions! And ... yeah, lining up like red coats.

perhaps predictably, the new episode isn't on youtube.

I watched it last night, but on one of the streaming sites. She always swears a lot on her show. It really is the responsibility of TBS who let it go to air. And seriously fuck any person who is "outraged".

xpost, it used to be on youtube because that's where I saw it.

ugh she apologized?? come on!

Everyone should chill on chastising her for apologizing. She has a family

She has to pay bills

Estimated net worth of $7 million. She'll be fine.

I probably have said this before but the key reason why hypocrisy arguments, while completely valid, do not work is because they don't take offense to calling someone a bad word (or racist comments, or anything else), they take offense to calling someone a bad word whom they don't think deserves it.

Oh fuck Simon. Okay reset

I cried when she says at the end thank you, I love you.

Wrong thread sorry

way to go Sally Field, you have more balls than Bee

sally field does not have a career to jeopardize anymore. it's one of the perks of getting old that it's easier to say whatever the fuck you feel like saying. as an oldster, I appreciate having this freedom. it's liberating.

So why does Bee do what she does? Just for the cash? And how mean is she allowed to be, and to whom? John Oliver (and HBO) stood up to a defamation suit for insulting an angry billionaire coal baron. Bee backed down after calling the in the public employee grifter daughter of a dickhead a bad word.

TBS barely knows what to do with Full Frontal in the first place. Last Week Tonight is one of HBO's anchor series at this point.

I would guess that Bee does what she does for a complex set of reasons, among which is earning a living, but only as one motive in a fairly long list. What Sally Field does these days is whatever she pleases. She has a lot less on the line than Bee, which makes it much easier for her. It's like playing with the House's money.

I don’t think she should have apologized but the fascist president trying to get a tv show off the air for having criticized his administration seems like the way worse part of this whole thing, regardless of the host’s net worth imo.

The only thing worse than a fascist president trying to get a show off the air, or stop the NFL from kneeling, or virtually anything else he wants to do, is allowing him to do it. Far more expensive and watched shows like Brooklyn Whatever and The Expanse were canceled but then picked up by others. If TBS does not have her back, like HBO has Oliver's, then she is doomed anyway and should be working on her resume.

Agreed they shouldn’t cave.

I don’t think she should have apologized but the fascist president trying to get a tv show off the air for having criticized his administration seems like the way worse part of this whole thing, regardless of the host’s net worth imo.

Well, yeah.

I watch Samantha Bee every week since it started. It's informative and does political/women focused pieces that no one else is doing consistently. She has a very very diverse writing staff as well. (in answer to why she does what she does). She's "mean" on the show but none of her targets in general are undeserving. News is moving so fast it's becoming impossibleto rely on any one news source or viewpoint. No one is ever going to get it 100% without messing up and it's probably bad to think they can, and I guess that's the point of all of this Trump vomit.

I don’t think she should have apologized but the fascist president trying to get a tv show off the air for having criticized his administration seems like the way worse part of this whole thing, regardless of the host’s net worth imo.

"Never apologize to a right-winger for anything" seems like a good approach at least through 2020 and probably into the indefinite future.

Never apologize to anyone affiliated with the Trump admin or family because they’ll never apologize to you, and then they’ll do it to you twice as bad.

none of her targets in general are undeserving

Apparently Ivanka Trump is undeserving.

i saw this moment live and loved it. didnt think us tv had that much of a clear runway. pity i was right.

xpost basically what katherine says above.

the one bad thing though is that all sorts of male maga mouthbreathers now think it's cool to call all women they don't like cunts. Which they already thought it was great before, but now it's really bad.

I generally hate the #resistance habit of thinking cursing = really dropping the mic. It just comes off as frustrated and petty.

Everyone swears (maybe I should check on the swearing thread to see how much people swear). I am wondering a little if her British writer was the one that dropped the cunt in, since it was scripted.

Yeah, but to quote Tom of the Trillbillies, "They don't know how to cuss good"

pettiness is good

I thought feckless cunt had a pop. And who in the world was the first one that started riling people up about it. Like, no one even watches the show.

^ I was wondering the same thing! They should ride their notoriety all the way to the bank

This is all my fault

I thought the right wing issue was not omg potty mouth but how dare she insult Ivanka with the most horrible of words, this is like Rosanne times 100, she should kill herself on TV but apologize directly to everyone forever first. All bets should be off for this bunch of Trump cunts.

I am wondering a little if her British writer was the one that dropped the cunt in, since it was scripted.

I thought we'd established on the other thread that the word is eqaully as offensive when applied to a woman in the UK as it it in the US.

we can all agree that the c word is used more liberally in dear old blighty, tom

I missed that thread. I feel like it's has different value when a woman says it about another woman.

Was that the swearing thread? I only glanced at the top poll.

The word's been discussed in three different threads today! I admit, being a man, I don't know much about woman-on-woman use of the word in either the UK or the US.

If a man called me that, I would think insulting, misogynist, gross, abusive. If a woman of equal or lesser power than me called me that I would think insulting, hmmm maybe I have been a bit cunty.

my partner got some shit from the school recently because she posted something innocuous and friendly on their twitter, but her twitter nom is lazy cunt is what the problem was! The family liaison manager from the school advised her she shouldn't post anything else until she picks a more SFW nom (on deaf ears!).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a man can get away with calling a man that word, and by and large a woman can get away with calling a woman that name. But a man can't really call a woman that word, and I'm not sure a woman would call a man that word.

everything's regional ye aul cunts

i used to call my dog a cunt fwiw

As much as I hate apologizing to these fucks, this was a self-own. You can’t use the c, n, or r word on corporate tv and expect no blowback. You guys can’t be serious.

yep

Her show isn’t live, is it? Seems odd that in between her saying it in front of an audience and all the post-production work and handoff to the network, no one said anything

Really this whole thing is like geological layers of shittiness

But fuck conservatives for equating this with racism
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But Samantha Bee sucks and also saying cunt was a dumb move
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But Ivanka actually is a cunt for enabling this administration's evil
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But Ivanka is not a cunt for tweeting a photo of herself with her son
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The reason this whole thing started is BABIES ARE BEING TORN FROM THEIR MOTHERS

Pretty much. I'd add that it mostly sucked cause there was just no universe where it was funny, though I know being funny is usually secondary to raging out when it comes to "political TV comedy" or w/ever

Like it's part of this awful twitter/media condition we have now where we are addicted to getting outraged about the peripheral while avoiding addressing the core because it affords easier opportunity for owns.

Also I just find the raging out extremely pathetic and indirect, perhaps for the same reason.

Pretty much. I'd add that it mostly sucked cause there was just no universe where it was funny

i mean does anyone here really disagree that ivanka trump is a feckless cunt

though I know being funny is usually secondary to raging out when it comes to "political TV comedy" or w/ever

this is the real problem here imo. the left/liberals have trump derangement syndrome and their comedy is shit.

idk i can't stand almost any political tv comedy shows and bee's is often really well written

y'all seem to be mischaracterizing it

It's possible, I haven't watched in over a year. I probably never laughed but I occasionally respected the reportage/angles.

i'll admit that i didn't even get to the end of the segment in which this thing apparently happened bc it seemed to take that highly misinterpreted story as a jumping off point

the show is v funny and cathartic and takes p smart positions often (even though it doesn't have a 100 percent batting average see "hug a nazi") and isn't really very much about raging? at least not as much as john oliver is, almost chewing through his increasingly shitty analogies

it is def better than Oliver I will grant that

Is TBS basic cable? Is this live? Does it carry a rating? I have no idea.

i imagine i'd like it more than john oliver bc sam bee isn't nearly as grating but i've tried with all these shows and it's just impossible for me, it really is just screaming to me

john oliver/his writers are weirdly obsessed with animal jokes, ranging from benign to gross

No, Trevor, you may nowt write another joke about the Alpine Grizzlies! Bad Trevor!!

lol

I like John Oliver's show.

the Dasha video he poked fun at last week was funnier than he's ever been tbh

xp Josh - it does have a rating, but it's bleeped out on the show. On YouTube they remove the bleeps

So how is that her fault?

this is the real problem here imo. the left/liberals have trump derangement syndrome and their comedy is shit.

That said I don’t watch any of these shows because I read the news and work in DC so it’s mostly just old information with a lot of mugging.

The entire Jon Stewart diaspora is basically a list of very funny, talented people I can’t be bothered to keep up with. That goes for Colbert too.

Just so I'm clear: Calling a woman a "cunt" is perfectly fine if you oppose her politically. Or is this exclusively a liberal privilege? pic.twitter.com/exEvKuxZLu

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) June 1, 2018

How's Dennis doing?

jim in vancouver’s post 15 hours ago is sorta hilarious when read after that stupid tweet

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this is the real problem here imo. the left/liberals have trump derangement syndrome and their comedy is shit._


You’ll always have the emoji movie. Also treeship was funnier than you.

Like it's part of this awful twitter/media condition we have now where we are addicted to getting outraged about the peripheral while avoiding addressing the core because it affords easier opportunity for owns.

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive)

to be fair there is not really anything most of us can do at this point to "address the core". everybody i know is fucked up and crazy and i'm disinclined to judge. if twitter outrage keeps you from killing yourself in utter despair go for it.

this place is almost as boring as liberal comedy

But you keep it spicy by reposting Glenn Greenwald and Dennis Perrin tweets.

guys its TEARING US APART

And she concluded her show with a wink at the very profanity that landed her in trouble: “Good night, everyone. See you next … Wednesday!”

har har

wait Dennis Perrin has only 957 followers? I thought he was a big deal or something

only here on ilxor dot com, much to our collective dismay

Michelle wolf took a dig at bee on her 2nd episode of the break (“feckless cunt host” was the quote). Tho she sort of ran it back by the end of the ep

wolf’s show is nigh unwatchable but good for her i guess

Only watched the first episode and ... hoping it finds its stride someday.

Wolfs show also has the same lame pan to DJ/band thing as colbert any time she cracks a joke. I wish that trend would die as it makes me feel like my iq is decreasing

Like the shows scripted, yer dj’s shock and awe is a performance + he looks like he just walked out of a supreme endo hotbox sesh

i admit, i kinda love Michelle Wolf. she's just winsome.

Only watched the first episode and ... hoping it finds its stride someday.

― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, June 7, 2018 6:32 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i admit i'm dismissing it early and i hope it gets good

We watched the first episode, and every time it felt like we were being yelled out they made a joke about viewers probably feeling like they were being yelled at. Don't know what to think about that.

folks is it wrong to support michelle wolf and want her to succeed but at the same time refuse to watch her show because her voice is like nails on a chalkboard to you

MW's stand up is strong. The pre-recorded pieces are meh. Her voice is whatever, I only cringe sometimes because I can tell that other people hate it.

I don't mind her voice, it is what it is, but there was one bit in the first episode with that other comedian where they were on a couch literally yelling at us.

I thought the Amazon Echo lunchmeat thing was hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBStCs2TOfE

I do like when MW puts on the Elizabeth Holmes fake voice.

The me too skit was funny in episode 2

One of my qualms with wolfs show is her segments like “cute animal videos and fails” or whatever, which feels like someone is YouTubing for me and that’s terrible. Thankfully she used that segment to tear down Roseanne instead

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WsUycrAtN7c

i find michelle wolf's voice to be weirdly compelling

also find it endearing/cool that apparently she used to be a collegiate track athlete and is really into ultramarathons?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdX6p_JQw_g

loved this, show could just be descriptions of alex jones imo

Show’s still good

i want to live inside the funk that plays when you get an answer right on her game app

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRjRCGDvzFA

still routinely enjoying this show lol

I still watch this every week. I catch bits and pieces of The Daily Show, Colbert and Seth Myers (the monologues) from the night before or like on the weekend when I am cooking and although I like all of those there is way, way too much overlap in political jokes. Hasan Minhaj, John Oliver, Sam Bee and weekly formats are so much better for fresher political takes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFBkN9M_Tk0

thought this was great, enjoyed the reveal of sam as a teenage judas priest superfan

aww cute