"Would That It Were So Simple" - The ILX 2016 Film Poll Thread - Voting Ends Sunday, February 26th

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Any film is eligible that was released theatrically in 2016, so if you want to count festivals or rep screenings than have at it.

Ballots can be up to 25 films, weighted, with normal rules applying. Please send a minimum of five films on your ballot. No formatting guidelines but please use English titles where possible.

Send to ilx2016filmpoll @ g ma i l. com

Submissions must be in by midnight EST of Sunday, the 26th of February, with the rollout hopefully beginning the next day.

Excellent thread title--better than the film.

Thanks for doing this again!

Hail Caesar would make a killer Catholic double header with The Silence.

Favorite time of the year! Thanks for doing this once again Gukbe.

Cool year, but perhaps without any gigantic masterpieces. Did everyone get to see A Quiet Passion?

Never opened here.

There was one gigantic masterpiece, Arabian Nights, but it already placed last year. Still voting for it this time.

And we're going to see both New Lonergan and Toni Erdmann before voting, so that could change things

Saw new Lonergan today. It's fine but mostly made me think about how much I hate oscar-season... Toni Erdmann should place very highly, hopefully.

I'm hoping to see A Lullaby to the Sorrowful Mystery and Sieranevada before voting ends. That's probably the ones I expect the most out of. And get a rewatch of Scarred Hearts might move it up a couple places. Great, great film.

Probably will vote for "Certain Women" but I haven't seen "Elle" yet...

I've got about five movies I can actually see in the time left to catch up on. No chance for Right Now, Wrong Then, it seems.

I'm going to rewatch Right Now, Wrong Then and 20th Century Women, both of which six weeks seemed determinedly OK. Toni Erdmann too.

Right Now, Wrong Then has some of the best Hong scenes, but it felt much more sad than it should be to me, I think. I mostly admire how he steadfastly creates the same film over and over and over, but at certain points here it felt really sad and desperate. That was quite probably mostly me, but still.

Is it actually available anywhere?

Well... you know... it's available 'places'. You know... those places... I did see one of the few cinema screenings it got here, though. But yeah, it's available.

The thing with the Hong film is...you have to like the movie he shows the first time.

Oh! Before I forget (again), please do not number ballots when submitted. Top film is 1st, then 2nd, 3rd, etc...

sorry, bullshit early deadline, will not participate

Did everyone get to see A Quiet Passion?

i did at NYFF, but only films that open commercially in NYC count

It's the same deadline every year.

sorry, bullshit early deadline, will not participate

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whaaa?

That aside a few notes on what has taken place on this thread so far:

- Thank you Gukbe for doing this.
- No one apart from Frederik has surely seen A Quiet Passion.
- No one apart from LJ thinks Arabian Nights is a 'gigantic masterpiece' (Trump-like hyperbole there).

Ballot:

- I'll get to watch Toni Erdmann and Cameraperson before I get to cast my vote.
- I'll try and source a copy of Cemetery of Splendour between now and then - never got around to it.
- I'll put Manoel de Oliveira's Visit or Memories and Confessions very high-up on my list - but it got one screening here that I know of and saw nothing on the review front. But please vote if you have (and loved it, and if you haven't what's wrong with you) and hopefully we'll get it in at the bottom end of the countdown.

No one apart from LJ thinks Arabian Nights is a 'gigantic masterpiece' (Trump-like hyperbole there).

These films, by design, were the v definition of 'curate's eggs'. But yes, even 'minor masterpiece' would be on the generous side.

I think Arabian Nights is a masterpiece. Think it was top 3 on my ballot last year.

And I know I'm not the only one to have seen A Quiet Passion. Also, isn't there a uk-faction that will root for it?

Hasn't opened in the UK yet.

_sorry, bullshit early deadline, will not participate

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink_

whaaa?

Trump-like &c

was thinking we could maybe spend a little less time than usual on morbius making the exact same dumbshit post every year

Cemetery of Splendour is on US Netflix so it must be relatively easy to source. Aradian Nights as well, for that matter.

Also available on DVD/Blu-Ray in the UK, and can be rented from Amazon Love Film.

not done w/ 2015 yet; blow me, wins

also Fredz AQP is going to be counted by everyone for '17, pretend you're not a dolt

Hey, sorry I don't keep myself perfectly updated on British release dates, the film had it's world premiere in February.

I loved Arabian Nights btw, might vote for it again

Voted

I could also consider re-voting for Arabian Nights, btw, but iirc we two were the only votes it got, wins, so I guess if it's us to again Gukbe might disqualify it :)

I saw Arabian Nights in Feb 2016, slightly in advance of its UK cinema release, so I think it absolutely qualifies for this poll.

I couldn't vote for it in the end - it was just too much and yet not enough.

heh I checked my ballot for last year and it turns out I didn't vote for it so I guess I saw it around March time? So hard to keep track... Had I seen it in time I def would have voted it in the 2015 poll and it would have done a bit better, doesn't sound like its chances of getting in this year are great but I'll prob vote for it idk

I won't disqualify anything.

I saw Arabian Nights at the cinema in March/April of this year and will certainly be voting for it

Um trust me, it'll place

i voted for the 5 flicks i saw this year but don't worry i bet my #1 will place in the top 5 (maybe even dark horse for #1 overall) and the other 4 good shots to place as well. if you're unable to find/pay a babysitter on the reg v discriminating about what u see u can make sure to only see things you like

the quintessential amateur hour poll

in the universe, not on the board

What's the fun in only watching things you like?

i think we're even. i'm ignorant of new film releases and you're ignorant of everything else xp

did someone say something? no

Well I'll be, I might throw 20th Century Women on my ballot. Funny year.

Just watched Panique au village: La Rentrée des classes (A Town Called Panic: Back to School) - only 26 minutes this time but every bit as hilarious and brilliant as the 2009 film :) Belgium's answer to Aardman do it again

Aquarius and Little Sister are on Netflix for those catching up.

Will Puiu's Sieranevada get anglo-saxon release in 2017, or has it already been released? Because I saw it last saturday, it's masterful, and in top three of the year, or thereabout.

i wont see toni erdmann in time :(

I am seeing at the weekend (probably).

Anyone voting for Camaraperson? This is probably going to be top 5 for me. Incredible, a fairly singular achievement.

Definitely on my ballot.

yes

I don't know when/if Sieranevada will get a UK cinema release (I'm assuming there will be a physical media/streaming version available at some point; Second Run in the UK have just released a home viewing version of Puiu's first film, Stuff and Dough, which I very much want to see.) Have you seen Aurora, Fred B? I have it on a pile of discs somewhere, yet to be watched.

Also hoping to see Toni Erdmann at the weekend, but if I love it, I will be voting for it in next year's poll, not this one.

Does anyone have a link to last year's results?

"It's not Bro Time, It's POLL Time" The ILX 2015 Film Poll Thread - Voting Ends Sunday February 21st at Midnight EST

Thanks, wins!

np

Cameraperson has one showing here, this Saturday. I was thinking of going up to London for the march but can see myself skipping it & heading to cinema instead. Similarly I might blow off my 1st meeting of the year w case worker for my one chance to see fire at sea

we'll definitely try to catch that, along with MBTS and Toni Erdmann. anything else you'd nudge our way?

Aurora is very good as well. I had it in a dvd-pile as well, then watched it when I realized I had a chance to see Sieranevada. Also Stuff and Dough. Apparently Death of Mr Lazarescu, Aurora and Sieranevada is first half of a six-part series of tales from Bucharest. They really fit well together, and he has turned his film language into something really unique.

Did everyone get to see American Honey? I love Andrea Arnold and think it's her best.

v simply, Being 17 isnt on DVD til March, so i can't vote

tying this dogmatically to the Oscar date makes no sense to me.

It's less about the Oscar date (though, why not) than it is about getting it done by the beginning of March. Oscar sort of works because a lot of films will get released in some form (whether the prestige pictures i.e. Silence or the art films on home media) by February, giving people a month to catch up. It's not perfect, nor could it ever be, but running it much further into the next year seems silly. I, myself, would prefer to move on by the third month.

And if you think it's unfair, try living somewhere other than New York or LA (and even then...)

Voted, about 15-20 films released last year with a few older films that had a re-screen.

Just couldn't face padding out with nice but forgettable. Or I dunno, anime. Watching Brook's King Lear was such an unforgettable afternoon.

Also hoping to see Toni Erdmann at the weekend, but if I love it, I will be voting for it in next year's poll, not this one.

Voted for it this year, know it was just so out of the LOL Jan cut-off point btu other ppl are voting for it too.

So good I'll happily vote for it next year.

through gritted teeth I will concede that Cameraperson is in fact great, maybe even as great as xyzzzz says it is

Why the grits?

'hilarious' 'feud' with loveable culture snob jul10

i could grit my teeth even more and say that his post up there made me buy tickets for us but...oh too late, shit

I saw the trailer and thought "ok, not Marker" is it better than not Marker?

Or is it something else entirely?

the latter tbh (says tt who's seen more than the 20 minutes of marker that everyone's seen)

Toni Erdmann is good. I was surprisingly taken with American Honey. Krisha is...a first feature film. The Red Turtle is quite moving.

Anyone rate Childhood of a Leader or Christine? Think I want to wrap up my catch up this weekend and see John Wick 2.

Oh, and Little Sister is fine. Missing what Brody saw in it though.

little sister was decent yeah

Childhood of a Leader has its moments. I would not have expected it of this actor.

American Honey is the best kind of shambling picture. One of my five best.

really want to see american honey

Netflix has got it.

cool ty. hope you don't mind if i leave your writeup for afterwards

oh shit i forgot to vote for childhood of a leader

oh hey, i know where the title quote is from now -- best scene from maybe the worst film i saw last year

American Honey isn't on UK Netflix, btw (it doesn't get a UK DVD release until 20th Feb)

I couldn't find it on US Netflix last night either.

florida netflix uber alles

I didn't know it was 'cultural snobbery' to point out garbage posts!

Bump

Remember: Hey, I might get to see La La Land before voting ends!

Lol, forgot to delete remember. Ironically.

Haven't read that thread but can't imagine it will do well here. But who knows!?

I have a hard time imagining I'll be voting for it either. But now I can yell at everyone when it inevitably makes the top 25!

High-Rise is really mediocre, given all that busyness and effort.

Aw

almost as annoying as the Ballard book.

I Am Not Your Negro, essential

I haven't stopped thinking about it or rereading Baldwin, hearing Jackson's voice in my ear.

Conservative film twitter personality compared it to a Dinesh doc. I disagreed.

It's fantastic. Really well and thoughtfully made. I'm a huge Baldwin fan, though, fyi.

I had a couple issues with some of the musical ironies (esp "Fascination"/Rodney King) but small caveats mostly

(also Doris Day was not that innocent)

I agree that the film of High Rise was extremely mediocre, bordering on poor. The book is a masterpiece (and Cronenberg's Shivers is the definitive 70s 'come as the sick soul of the high rise apartment complex' party)

you all hate fun

"High Rise" is a bit of a mess but I did enjoy the midnight movie zaniness of it all

Final ten days. Very few ballots in so far. Hopefully it'll be a last minute rush thing.

(he says, having not done his ballot yet)

yea i will vote soon; plan to see toni erdmann & maybe a few other candidates shortly~

Still trying to see a few things. I'll vote for sure, though.

Bump

I want to vote but I just counted and so far I've only seen 13 movies from 2016, only 6 of which I'd count as "recommendable" (7/10 and up) and only 2 of which I thought were Very Good or better (8/10 and up)...and it is highly debatable whether one of them even counts as a "movie."

I'll have a list soon.

4 Days.

As added motivation keep in mind that if you don't vote my pathetic ballot will have undue influence on the results.

Very few ballots in at this point. Do people need more time or is their just not much interest?

I'll have one done on sunday! Still watching 2016 films :)

I've got most of mine done, gonna watch Cameraperson tonight. Place your bets if i'll find time to watch Arabian Nights before sunday.

I'm not simpatico with Morbs on much, but I wouldn't dream of voting on my favorites of 2016 until about 2021.

need another 5 weeks

also, invalidate the ballot of thr guy who watched 5 films

Doing a "five years later" poll later in the year isn't such a bad idea, actually. Would be especially interesting if we have a contemporary poll to compare it to, mind.

I'm willing to extend a week if there is interest. I don't really mind when it's done, as I finally finished my ballot last week and have happily moved on to 2017 films or, more accurately, watching older movies until November when I'll frantically catch up on 2017.

ill get a ballot in either way, but another wk would be nice :)

Any objections to extending the deadline to March 5th?

Morbs, would love to have a working ballot thrown in by you, and not just because I'm hoping for The Other Side recognition.

ill get a ballot in either way, but another wk would be nice :)

cosign this.

I had my ballot ready for the first time in three years having crammed in the last two weeks but WHATEVER.

I might see a couple more if you extend it, but I'll definitely vote regardless.

Extending the deadline would mean I'd get to see... Birth of a Nation... so it probably wouldn't change my ballot that much.

I get to see the last of the oscar best pic noms: FENCES.

and then on to the good stuff!

So, is the deadline extended? I watched one this week that landed in my top ten. It's why I never submit early.

Yes, we'll extend it a week.

Ok, I'm happy it got extended. Saw Certain Women a second time today and it went from pretty good to pretty masterful. So that just jumped a pretty long way up the list.

So excited to see that, opens here next month

I keep forgetting to put a ballot together but my sense is that this was a good year

If you need an old guy to screw up the countdown when you get to #1, I'm volunteering.

5 days left. for real this time.

It could all be so simple
But you'd rather make it haaard

Silly. I have no beef.

I know OJ and Lemonade are my top 2 slots. Trying to see where Season 2 of RuPauls Drag Race All-Stars fits on my ballot.

i already sent your Slant list via a sock account

Yay to doubling up on my influence!

I've made a list. Now tinkling with it until sunday :)

When you said that doing a list was a piece of piss...

I did put World Series Game 7 and Woody's Crisis in Six Scenes at the top of my Eric ballot.

Huh, haven't watched one movie since the Oscars.

Voted anyway.

The Birth of a Nation probably won't make my ballot...

I'm seeing anime Your Name on monday, aka first potential best film of 2017.

voted!

Have an 'I've voted' bump on me.

voted!

Voted

Voted :)

sleeping

sent another ballot, had to make a couple of changes

we're fine-tuning ours

Voted!

Finally! Ballots!

you got mine too right

Okay, work emergency. Will tabulate the results tonight. Roll out hopefully beginning tomorrow.

oh man, thought the deadline was today for some reason! looking forward to the results in any case.

You can still submit a ballot until 6pm est

awesome, just sent my ballot in

Okay, ballots have been counted and tabulated. Because of work etc I'll do some tomorrow night and Wednesday night (or late afternoon, early evening for the US and a bit later on for those across the pond), and I'll do the top 20 at a more reasonable time on Thursday as I'm off that day. 26 ballots in total, which is one more than last year, so thanks everybody!

Yay!

I ended up being busy all weekend with a family medical emergency but cobbled together a ballot just before going to bed on deadline day, pretty sure I missed something off. Seeing certain women, cameraperson and american honey later this week

hope everything's ok wins

Yeah it's fine, granny was hospitalised with signs of heart failure - not great but she's going strong for 87. I stayed with her over the weekend after she was discharged just in case, did end up watching a few films but wasn't gonna try and convince her to sit thru the assassin or I am the pretty thing that lives in the house so I could catch up for this!

you're a good man, kiu

as for the films...well, yeah, there was loads of stuff we didn't get around to (for less urgent reasons) either...hopefully it'll all even itself out in the rollout

Alright, so work ran late and I've just now started to pull images together. Because I'm starting so late and the Europeans are probably heading to bed shortly, I'll expand the countdown and throw out 60-41 tonight. Hopefully tomorrow I'll start a few hours earlier, and on Thursday the top 20 will be rolled out at a reasonable time.

So 26 ballots. 176 films voted for. A couple from last year's list have placed again.

60. The Club (d: Larrain) - 47 pts. 3 votes

https://goo.gl/photos/JfczdhLKvV8U6YpXA

Sigh. I'll find another hosting site.

https://ibb.co/ikDQgF

The ending of The Club seemed like a fatuous trick when I saw it long, long ago.

http://i.imgur.com/cI9Sp9V.jpg

Result!

Should results be a separate thread?

I've always used the same thread because there aren't really enough posts to warrant it.

I haven't seen The Club. I'm pretty ambivalent on Larrain.

Larraín could end up with 3 films on this list?

59. Our Little Sister (d: Koreeda) - 50 pts. 3 votes

http://i.imgur.com/mT1qdWA.jpg

You should start again on another thread, maybe? It's just that some ilxors will be interested in the results but not look at the voting thread. Up to you, of course.

Oh I voted for both of these!

So surprised to see Our Little Sister this low! Not Koreeda's best by any means, but lovely all the same

Xpost I liked "No" and "Tony Manero" a lot

No more Larrain please.

Our Little Sister got a much higher placement though. It's really, really lovely

We're going to have to think of an adjective for it other than 'lovely'

Ive never heard of "our little sister"

Therapeutic

what is the general consensus as to Koreeda's best film? I just saw After Life for the first time this week. It was very odd but interesting

My friend wrote a great essay about it here: ‘Our Little Sister’: Making Enough Room for the Half-Sister

After-Life is still my favourite! So earnest and frequently hilarious. Those talking heads-style performances are excellent.

The Club probably my favorite Larrain, along with Jackie. Hm, tough choice, actually. Consider Club a 2015 release, though, it managed to come out in Danish cinemas in the fall.

After Life is the best Kore-eda, by far, imo. Such a unique creation. Maborosi and Distance also very good, and after that there's a drop in quality, though many of them are fine. Still Walking probably more than that. Our Little Sister fine as well, but I would have voted for Sweet Bean by Naomi Kawase for my feel-good Japanese film of the year.

I really liked Nobody Knows as well.

I was crazy about The Club at the time, but over the year it sunk further and further in my estimation. Would need to see it again to gauge my feelings properly, but it did make it onto my ballot. I'm cool with massive tonal shifts

Alright then: Guys Guys, I'm Sorry, No, There's a Mistake - The 2016 ILX Film Poll Results Thread

Ha. Sorry G! Keep up the good work!

we should say the hell with release date pedantry