Guys Guys, I'm Sorry, No, There's a Mistake - The 2016 ILX Film Poll Results Thread

Voting thread, brief as it is: "Would That It Were So Simple" - The ILX 2016 Film Poll Thread - Voting Ends Sunday, February 26th

Started rolling out over there. Will continue over here.

The Story So Far...

60. The Club (d: Larrain) - 47 pts. 3 votes
http://i.imgur.com/cI9Sp9V.jpg

59. Our Little Sister (d: Koreeda) - 50 pts. 3 votes

http://i.imgur.com/mT1qdWA.jpg

Oh I voted for both of these!

― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:18 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So surprised to see Our Little Sister this low! Not Koreeda's best by any means, but lovely all the same

― tangenttangent, Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:18 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Xpost I liked "No" and "Tony Manero" a lot

― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:18 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No more Larrain please.

― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:19 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Our Little Sister got a much higher placement though. It's really, really lovely

― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:19 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

We're going to have to think of an adjective for it other than 'lovely'

― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:19 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ive never heard of "our little sister"

― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:20 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Therapeutic

― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:21 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what is the general consensus as to Koreeda's best film? I just saw After Life for the first time this week. It was very odd but interesting

― Dan S, Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:22 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My friend wrote a great essay about it here: ‘Our Little Sister’: Making Enough Room for the Half-Sister

― tangenttangent, Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:23 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

After-Life is still my favourite! So earnest and frequently hilarious. Those talking heads-style performances are excellent.

― tangenttangent, Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:24 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Club probably my favorite Larrain, along with Jackie. Hm, tough choice, actually. Consider Club a 2015 release, though, it managed to come out in Danish cinemas in the fall.

After Life is the best Kore-eda, by far, imo. Such a unique creation. Maborosi and Distance also very good, and after that there's a drop in quality, though many of them are fine. Still Walking probably more than that. Our Little Sister fine as well, but I would have voted for Sweet Bean by Naomi Kawase for my feel-good Japanese film of the year.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:26 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I really liked Nobody Knows as well.

I was crazy about The Club at the time, but over the year it sunk further and further in my estimation. Would need to see it again to gauge my feelings properly, but it did make it onto my ballot. I'm cool with massive tonal shifts

― tangenttangent, Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:29 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Friend's essay hype again: http://www.btchflcks.com/2016/08/our-little-sister-making-enough-room-for-the-half-sister.html#.WL9DTBKLSi4

got a copy of Nobody Knows on dvd, am planning to watch it sometime this week

Completely forgot about Our Little Sister - would've been top 20 for sure.

First of several ties in the lower half:

57. (Tie) De Palma (d: Baumbach, Paltrow) - 56 pts. 2 votes

http://i.imgur.com/CXjItfz.jpg

57. (Tie) The Love Witch (d: Biller) 56 pts. 2 votes

http://i.imgur.com/szl1Jjo.jpg

After Life is the best Kore-eda, by far, imo. Such a unique creation. Maborosi and Distance also very good, and after that there's a drop in quality, though many of them are fine. Still Walking probably more than that. Our Little Sister fine as well, but I would have voted for Sweet Bean by Naomi Kawase for my feel-good Japanese film of the year.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:26 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LOL - what is this thrash

I think I voted for De Palma. Very enjoyable, like a documentary version of those Faber books

Why would ppl make a doc on De Palma? wtf?!

It's enjoyable enough even if I'm still largely agnostic on him. Skips past some of his best work though.

Happy that xyzzzz has arrived itt

56. Zootopia (d: Howard, Moore) - 56 pts. 3 votes

http://i.imgur.com/TjfnD2h.jpg

i threw zootopia 4 points, so we have to wonder where the other 52 came from

The Love Witch hasn't been on my radar, but I like the description of it in the NY Review of Books: "a very dry, stylized, totally obsessive horror comedy that, in its tale of an amorous witch playing the field in Eureka, California, is both a New Age satire and a credible pastiche of an American International drive-in flick, circa 1970."

Why would ppl make a doc on De Palma? wtf?!

Easily the most prolific of the core American filmmakers of the '70s, one of the two or three best many would argue (I wouldn't--top six or seven), and, I assume, a big influence on Baumbach. I had it pretty high.

Yes, not really sure why I haven't heard of this Love Witch film!

I don't normally go in for that kind of pastiche but it's smart and quite funny. And immaculately costumed.

"The Love Witch" sounds intriguing

wait did i throw zootopia 4 points

what was the ballot position/points arrangement

55.Rams (d: Hakonarson) - 57 pts. 4 votes

http://i.imgur.com/DuHIHNj.jpg

I didn't vote, because I don't see enough new movies during the year for a ballot of mine to be in anyway meaningful, but Zootopia is still currently my favourite feature-length film that I've seen from 2016.

Easily the most prolific of the core American filmmakers of the '70s, one of the two or three best many would argue (I wouldn't--top six or seven), and, I assume, a big influence on Baumbach. I had it pretty high.

― clemenza, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Scarface is certainly worth a doc - lots of material to work with (and you can hang some things around that film) but I just couldn't find myself caring for what he's done.

oh now this is really great, my #8 in a good year

funny, chilling, incredibly sad film about sheep and men

Is that Roman Gabriel? He looks old and very sad.

imago: You gave it 6 points.

De Palma doc is great, De Palma is great fuiud

Like 'Of Horses and Men', but with rams. And just as good. Final scene is really something.

The Love Witch looks great but it's about half an hour too long

Was the De Palma doc a Netflix (or whatever) only thing? My library claims they can't get the DVD...

Your library otm cryptosicko

De Palma was distributed by A24, it was not a streaming service thing

It's on Amazon Prime.

54. The Pearl Button (d: Guzman) 62 pts. 2 votes. 1 #1

http://i.imgur.com/c8tNaTn.jpg

No its not. xp

First of my votes.

I dont know this one

It was the follow up to Nostalgia for the Light. Which was incredible. I didn't see this one.

Missed the scant screenings of this that I could have caught...

De Palma is on Amazon Prime -- I just added it to my watch list.

I'm so bad at voting strategically...

No De Palma hack bullshit job! Guzman was made by what happened to his country, goes back again and again to the events from different angles and shades. I really needed to see more from him when the BFI put up a season two years ago - a lot to discover.

Another tie here

52. (Tie) Tower (d: Maitland) - 63 pts. 3 votes

http://i.imgur.com/WSYT8dr.jpg

52. (Tie) Indignation (d: Schamus) - 63 pts. 3 votes

http://i.imgur.com/ptzUe3N.jpg

Nostalgia for the Light was class, so I'm up for this.

Indignation was my number 4. I loved it, and it seemed to just come and go.

Last three seem intriguing and I've not even heard of any of them

Another tie

50. (Tie) Anomalisa (d: Kaufman, Johnson) - 65 pts. 3 votes

http://i.imgur.com/dsNdUYZ.jpg

50. (Tie) Maggie's Plan (d: Miller) - 65 pts. 3 votes

http://i.imgur.com/dvc5wBl.jpg

Anomalisa is just one of the worst trailers - not sure how anyone could sit through (never mind vote!) for it.

I had a strange pull to see Maggie's Plan but never got around to it.

The Love Witch seems like it's going to be some bullshit capital-c camp thing, where everything is in quotation marks. But instead it simultaneously takes its premise (feminist tale of a real witch with plenty of death and weird rituals) AND its style of filming (late 50s/60s lavish studio Technicolor) 100% seriously, and takes them to their natural limits. Also, moreso than any film I've seen this year, it doesn't tell you what to think about its characters or the events of the film.

The Love Witch also totally beautiful, the costuming and the set design, all shot in 35mm, with really well-modulated performances. I didn't write these tweets but this thread sums it up for me. https://twitter.com/MrPaulDuane/status/833101458891472896

I was one of the Indignation voters, another one where I was pleasantly surprised. It seems like it's going to be a stodgy period-piece prestige literary adaptation, but it ends up being far more interesting than that thanks mainly to an incredible 10-minute scene between Tracy Letts and Logan Lerman halfway through

I gave Anomalisa my no. 1 vote

I like capital-c camp a whole lot

I hate-watched Maggie's Plan and Cafe Society on the same day, but Maggie's Plan was actually pretty enjoyable. It was like a smoother-flowing Listen Up Philip.

Micheal B: You did, I'm sorry I forgot to note that.

"Capital-c camp" was the wrong way to put it. What I meant is that the film isn't saying "Isn't the way they used to make movies ridiculous? Aren't old styles of acting bad and corny?" like some things I've seen.

I didn't vote for Zootopia but Jason Bateman is a fox.

Anomalisa made me feel incredibly sick on several levels, but it was quite astonishing to see that appalling feeling of gut-wrenching paranoid reappraisal writ large for a semi-mainstream audience. The breakfast scene was the most memorable part for me.

49. Sing Street (d: Carney) - 66 pts. 3 votes

http://i.imgur.com/3PkQA6s.jpg

I feel like Anomalisa was one of those movies with a big message that I didn't quite get, but I really liked the idea that the sound of one's voice can be the key thing that makes them attractive to you

I enjoyed watching Sing Street, as flimsy as it is. My main takeaway is that, in my mind, they play a song that just sounds like Alphabeat's "Fascination" when I think of it, though not as good.

saw and liked sing street but couldn't imagine voting for it haha

Screenshot does a great job of encapsulating the best things about the film

haha otm

"I didn't vote for Zootopia but Jason Bateman is a fox."

lol

48. The Lobster (d: Lanthimos) - 68 pts. 4 votes

http://i.imgur.com/VwNadtF.jpg

My film critics circle pick! http://www.miaminewtimes.com/arts/florida-film-critics-circle-awards-snub-moonlight-in-its-major-categories-9012735

I'm not a fan, but it's a triumph of tone and quiet yuks/yucks.

Absolutely hated this. Had a UK cinematic release back in about March 2015. So arch and smug

I thought it was some bullshit. I remember being actually appalled at the shot of Ashley Jensen on the ground.

Anomalisa: Really liked it minus one revelation about 2/3 of the way through (to say more would be spoiler-y) that felt puzzlingly arbitrary to me.

The Lobster: Got half-way through before something happened that revulsed me so much that my sympathies were no longer with the film, and thus continuing with it was (I felt) pointless. Again, to be more specific would require spoilers, but lets just say I'm a dog person.

When it comes to the primacy of children, it can't be smug enough.

i know some people really love this the lobster, but it played like a high-concept napoleon dynamite to me

Did it make it to the list last year?

we should say the hell with release date pedantry

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, March 7, 2017

or the hell with time-traveling nihilists

no Fred, bcz the hell with Europe

Lobster is great, btw. Visually the best Lanthimos by far. First half is best, but second half was more of a bonus to me, rather than a letdown.

a high-concept napoleon dynamite

what a terrible oxymoron; watch Dogtooth

It just seemed somehow so overwrought and stilted (beyond the intentional stiltedness). Barely hung together and was full of gross little touches that made me never want to see Dogtooth no matter how often people say to.

Oh Dogtooth is far more gross.

It didn't make the list last year. I was so surprised at how low it was I rechecked the ballots.

47. High-Rise (d: Wheatley) 69 pts. 3 votes

http://i.imgur.com/O7Bu7ew.jpg

does dogtooth have a scene as stupidly overwrought as "The gun whose trigger you just pulled wasn't loaded!" break-in thing in the middle of the lobster?

My #3. Fuck you alllllll

imago won a t-shirt from Ben Wheatley at the Q&A

Wheatley speaks to my soul and on this occasion he speaks to my soul with a giant overblown mad-ride through trenchant social commentary and it's GLORIOUS

Felt afterwards like I should have read the book instead.

the book stinks too

I don't see enough new movies during the year for a ballot of mine to be in anyway meaningful

didn't stop our douchiest regular, apparently

Tower wouldn't have shown up if I hadn't self-loathingly voted, so there's that. damn u Gukbe

obv O.J. is winning

46. Jackie (d: Larrain) - 70 pts. 4 votes

http://i.imgur.com/FeD2w69.jpg

my main revelation from this film - I didn't realize Jackie Kennedy had such a weird accent

shoot this movie back and to the left

Jackie Kennedy had such a weird accent

Marilyn Monroe's!

45. The Fits (d: Holmer) - 71 pts. 4 votes

http://i.imgur.com/Nbbjc1A.jpg

^brought this home from the library this very night

The plot reads similarly to The Falling (which I loved). Does anyone know if there's a connection there?

One of the films I regret missing.

It's pretty great.

44. Sieranevada (d: Puiu) - 72 pts. 2 votes

http://i.imgur.com/dpai3AP.jpg

wish I could have seen this. I really love The Death of Mr. Lazarescu

I've not hear of any of these films! Good work ilxors!

Saw it, liked it enormously; ineligible in my eyes. Still apparently w/out US distribution.

Yeah, pretty stoked to see it whenever it eventually comes out.

You people and your unreleased Romanian films.

Every Year!

unlike ESPN miniseries

43. Arrival (d: Villenueve) - 73 pts. 5 votes

http://i.imgur.com/tlxjOs7.jpg

Was among the two votes for Love Witch and am at least glad it's placement here is going to spur a lot of redressing.

And The Fits gets better and better in memory. Already wish I'd have slotted it higher.

GTFO with Jackie

42. 20th Century Women (d: Mills) - 76 pts. 5 votes

http://i.imgur.com/Y2oIpl6.jpg

Lots of people I know love this. I saw it twice and thought Mills interfered, as usual, with the3 pathos of his own material.

That film gets better the more I think about it. Molly Haskell was pretty good on it.

Bening and Crudup are terrific together.

wish I liked the Jóhannsson score to Arrival more, it was disappointing to me.
loved 20th Century Women

Tower is something which shouldn't work, but the rotoscope pulls you in more effectively than a straightforward reenactment would and the scene where the newscaster announces his grandsons death is one of the most gut wrenching scenes of last year.

Last one for the night

41. Loving (d: Nichols) - 77 pts. 4 votes

http://i.imgur.com/21SrSV3.jpg

that image captures the best moment of the movie for me

The worst I can say about 20th Century Women is its more of a showcase for great moments than a great film. Which is to say, it made my list without hesitation.

Sometimes too quiet; I don't think Nichols has the skill yet to make that sort of stillness work. Often moving, though, especially Negga. If you got kids, watch it on a double bill with I Am Not Your Negro.

The Fits: Quite good, and surprising. I went in expecting something like, I dunno, Real Women Have Curves or some such thing and got something much closer to It Follows.

I was expecting 20th Century and Loving to be tedious awards bait (despite Nichols especially), but was pleasantly surprised to find both far more intelligent and engaging as a result.

Love Witch ran maybe 2 weeks in NY, missed it. Doesn't seem to be a DVD or on Amazon.

20th Century Women felt like it could slot in with movies like Slums of Beverly Hills and Little Miss Sunshine.

The Love Witch is apparently coming out on dvd 3/14

20th Century Women felt like it could slot in with movies like Slums of Beverly Hills and Little Miss Sunshine.

― Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Tuesday, March 7, 2017 9:40 PM

you dishonor it

Love Witch played 2 special screenings in DC and that was it. Rented it last month on iTunes.

dishonor it? Maybe Little Miss Sunshine isn't that great, but Slums is a fantastic film. Sure there's no performances as great as Bening though.

Slums is solid. Little Miss Sunshine is solid waste.

Saw the James Baldwin tonight. (The right one this time.) I probably would have put it around #10 on my list. If you're going to double-bill it with something, it should be O.J. Do they ever double-bill eight-hour films?

Just noticed the thread title and can only presume it's prophetic.

#1: Rules Don't Apply

lol

obv myopic american parochialism should be the rule, not sure we should even allow foreign language films tbh

I'd forgotten about Rams & the club, might have voted for the former if I'd remembered it. The club hasn't stuck much beyond a vague sense that it was a bit like father ted. Should have voted for the falling too! Tracy thorn <3

Wanna see love witch, it's opening Friday here and has four showings but they're all during work hours smh

I was the #1 for the pearl button, if you like nostalgia for the light it's more of the same

So happy for Sieranevada, my #2 (or #3 perhaps, can't remember). Just assumed it wasn't going to get distribution anywhere anyways, so put it on this year. Now it can votesplit its way to the mid-fourties two years in a row. Yay! But wow, it's such a masterful film, perhaps Puiu's best.

Jackie should have been much higher, obviously. Among the best of the oscar-pap. The light especially. That long shot of the procession that ends up on John Jr's face inside the limo. Great film.

I'm equally annoyed by the low placing of Zootopia/Zootropolis and The Lobster.

Kackie

Keechie

I voted for The Lobster but I saw it in '15

I mean I *would have* voted for The Lobster

maggies plan was p bad imo, gretas character was a lot like her character in mistress America, but w/o like poking fun @ that archetype

We not discussing these?

I get what Loving was doing at the same time that I was indifferent to it. That's virtually all I have to say about it.

I was hoping it was a Henry Green adaptation

well Nichols could've called it Party Going.

NRQ once of this parish dreamt of adapting Party Going for the screen. Wonder if he's worked on doing so

The Love Witch looks great. I missed the only two screenings it had here, unfortunately.

And The Fits gets better and better in memory. Already wish I'd have slotted it higher.

Same here. I really loved it. I'm going to have to check out the Falling movie TT mentioned.

I'm pleasantly surprised Maggie's Plan made it. Also, Still Walking is crazy good Koreeda.

The Falling is amaaazing

Not sure about that but it's v good. As I said at the time, at one point I genuinely thought they might get through the whole story without having a character literally explain the etymology of the word hysteria

The creepy-Crowley older brother playing with his synth *shudder* (incidentally I didn't realise the director's own brother is Paul Morley!)

btw I just saw cameraperson and am registering my intent to vote it quite highly in next year's poll, hopefully I will reread this thread & this can serve as a reminder

Still Walking is definitely the fourth best Koreeda, no doubt about it.

I like films such as 20th Century Women just fine, but it's sad that it's higher than Sieranevada. That's world film distribution, though, but still.

Wait til Captain America places in the top 20.

tw I just saw cameraperson and am registering my intent to vote it quite highly in next year's poll

you missed it; do better next time

i mean the only rational way to adjudicate this is no one can vote for anything until it's been released everywhere (while Frederik will continue to vote whatever's festival-only)

it's sad that it's higher than Sieranevada

yes it's sad ppl haven't voted for something they've had no chance to see. sad!

it seems a lot of 'vital' films from last year are becoming available to people in March. Gukbe, consider an April 1 deadline next year.

films such as 20th Century Women

what does this mean -- "released films"

films seen outside of Denmark and Romania

20th Century Women is a fine, unadventurous indie-film. Yeah, it's just easier to see. Sieranevada is exhilarating, experimental and hilarious. It's almost everything a film should be, from a master of the art who has made three masterpieces in a row.

It hasn't been shown in Denmark yet, btw. I tried to set up a screening, but failed.

Still Walking is definitely the fourth best Koreeda, no doubt about it.

Definitely!

20th Century Women is a lot better than just an "unadventurous indie-film". It certainly trades in a lot of the standard tropes, but it's surprising in just the right ways and very perceptive. Plus I liked the "Reagan is about to happen" prism.

So a work emergency has come up, so I only have about 2 hours to get through the next 20. I'll try to keep it at an even pace but if I get too far behind they'll come a bit faster nearing the time I have to go back in.

40. The Death of Louis XIV (d: Serra) - 81 pts. 3 votes

http://i.imgur.com/FHxAfbH.jpg

One of the ones I def want to see.

so I only have about 2 hours to get through the next 20

No worries I can do all my screaming by bedtime.

JPL looks fantastically ridiculous in that.

Surprised at seeing this! Rated it highly. Perfect festival-film, as soon as that celluloid sunset came on, with the bird noises and everything, it was perfectly relaxing.

I gave 20th Century Women a good review, but it's an unadventurous indie film, and that's fine.

I'd put Still Walking second among Kore-eda's work.

39. Sunset Song (d: Davies) - 82 pts. 3 votes

http://i.imgur.com/tw5P27r.jpg

Watchable but nowhere near his earlier work.

Then again there is not a lot that is!

I was enthralled until he ran out of movie in the last 15 minute. Kevin Guthrie is beautiful.

Got a tie here. A few more of those coming up, but not many.

37. (Tie) Fire At Sea (d: Rosi) - 82 pts. 4 votes

http://i.imgur.com/dcDd1DS.jpg

37. (Tie) No Home Movie (d: Akerman) - 82 pts. 4 votes

http://i.imgur.com/ydTFUN1.jpg

now that's a double feature

Kevin Guthrie is very beautiful. I love ears like that that stick out! But the other dark haired tall guy would have been better in his role. It doesn't matter much though because it's terrible in lots of other ways.

Sigh, those two urn-like vases. RIP Chantal Akerman :(

I should probably have voted for Sunset Song, but I completely forgot about it. That it was just the second best Davies-film I saw in 2016, and that it's really from 2015, no reason not to vote for it.

SS easily Davies' best in 20 years, think I had it #2

Fred, either you go or I do. You're a horror.

pedantic little ****

Two more of my votes. Fire at Sea had some originality and is right at the forefront of the migrant crisis, a merge of film and the times.

No Home Movie was heartbreaking.

I preferred The Deep Blue Sea. Was left a little cold with this one.

No Home Movie pretty high on my ballot. I need to really sit down and catch up with her work.

SS easily Davies' best in 20 years, think I had it #2

You voted in the end?

36. Childhood of a Leader (d: Pitt) - 83 pts. 3 votes

http://i.imgur.com/moDK9ie.jpg

Keen to see this.

Or hear it anyway.

oh hey one of the 5 flicks i voted for good stuff

I'm usually in line with the cult favorite movie scores every year, but I didn't think much of this one.

classic example of "promising debut I don't care much about"

35. Knight of Cups (d: Malick) - 83 pts. 4 votes

http://i.imgur.com/PxfkJ8S.jpg

Or hear it anyway.

― Heavy Doors (jed_), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LOL yeah.

So how is the soundtrack?

Childhood of a Leader (d: Pitt)?

is this some Brad Pitt joke I'm missing?

lol, in my mind i confused Michael Pitt and Brady Corbet

Knight of Cups was stirring in places, much better than To the Wonder, when it didn't look like an Aetna commercial.

re: Knight of Cups - all the tragedies buried in fragmentated narrative might sound tired on the page but I really liked it. A lot of energy to it.

36. Childhood of a Leader (d: Corbet) - 83 pts. 3 votes

fwiw i had no interest in the soundtrack and if i noticed it at all it was def secondary. more interested in the attempt to link psychosexual childhood development w/ latent fascism and connecting it to the WW1 reconciliation period + Versailles. i think it was v ambitious + provocative tho he doesn't end up quite pulling all the strings together by the end.

33. (Tie) Little Men (d: Sachs) - 85 pts. 5 votes

http://i.imgur.com/bvxMWFD.jpg

33. (Tie) Everybody Wants Some!! (d: Linklater) - 85 pts. 5 votes

http://i.imgur.com/p8b5B40.jpg

goofed on the points of the Everybody Wants Some image there, in case conspiracies start to swirl.

Ira Sachs is an example of someone who "uninteresting indie" films that are excellently written, acted, and thought-through.

*makes

did anybody write a one-line review of everybody wants some, e.g. "i don't."

Can't be arsed w/Linklater these days

Ira Sachs is an example of someone who "uninteresting indie" films that are excellently written, acted, and thought-through.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"and that's fine"

I think Love is Strange is the only one of his I've seen

EWS was a pretty good "dudes being dudes" movie but I can't imagine putting it on a ballot or really ever thinking about it again.

32. Weiner-Dog (d: Solondz) - 91 pts. 4 votes

http://i.imgur.com/Eaphbkg.jpg

Glad to see Everybody Wants Some! place low.

31. Hunt for the Wilderpeople (d: Waititi) - 92 pts. 6 votes

http://i.imgur.com/bAWfhtK.jpg

haven't heard of this one!

It's brilliant

30. The Measure of a Man (d: Brizé) - 108 pts. 4 votes

http://i.imgur.com/hYYT3jU.jpg

Little Men in lower half of my ballot - sublimely drawn

Wiener-Dog a couple of places higher I think? Feels like Solondz's grandest fuck-you to modern life yet maybe - an ecstasy of cynicism and completely unbothered about what anyone will think of it

I gave up on Solondz years ago. Maybe I should try again? But I don't feel it warrants it as I was never a big fan anyway.

Oh, suspect I forgot to vote for Measure of a Man as well. Best Actor performance of the year for me, I think.

Danny DeVito was (typically) very good in Weiner Dog. The theme song did not appear to become the big hit it seemed destined to be.

29. The Other Side (d: Minervini) - 111 pts. 4 votes. #1

http://i.imgur.com/GpeNUHC.jpg

Weiner-Dog was very high up my ballot. I've always been a huge Solondz fan, but admittedly some of his more recent efforts have fallen a bit flat. Not so here though! Deliciously misanthropic, even for him.

Best Actor performance of the year for me, I think.

yep

I thought wiener-dog was kinda bad :-/

Poor wiener dog. No one wants him.

I watched it during a very low ebb and its refutal of all positivity felt somehow weirdly motivating. And the dog is so lovely.

I wanted it to be funnier

I think I laughed most at the stupid joke of the devito film poster for "apricots!" and it's a takeoff of woody allen's bananas

Yes the dog was a good dog

28. Mountains May Depart (d: Jia) - 112 pts. 4 votes

http://i.imgur.com/7WZedyS.jpg

julie delpy's bit was fucking hilarious tbf

I forgot Solondz existed

I love Jia.

Really liked A Touch of Sin, think I was way too busy to catch Mountains.. aargh

Wasn't a huge fan of the final section, thought the first 2 parts make it worth revisiting. Also, "Go West".

27. A Bigger Splash (d: Guadagnino) - 114 pts. 4 votes

http://i.imgur.com/VLSqzz0.jpg

The trailer for this made me feel too ill to ever want to see it

Everybody wants some! Was a gorgeous boy-fest primarily but I thought it was good in other ways too.

A Bigger Splash is a gorgeous boy-fest too.

26. Victoria (d: Schipper) - 115 pts. 6 votes. 1 #1

http://i.imgur.com/c8hoLnC.jpg

I haven't recovered from the opening scenes in which Mathias Schoenaerts rolls in the mud.

Victoria opened here in fall '15. My heart was in my throat the last 30 minutes.

This was good and I may have put it too low on my ballot - if anything it was better than its gimmick and didn't need it (although technically brilliant sure). Nightclub scene was amazing

Oh, oh, Alf. Will definitely check that.

Nightclub scene captured the 4 a.m.-eternal vibe of my clubbing experiences in my twenties better than anything I've seen.

Lotsa of gorgousness to A Bigger Splash - that was all it had, i.e. not very much at all. It was probably kinda ok for the Italian tourist industry.

my local multiplex had a poster up for victoria for abt ~8 months maybe? only recently was switched, the movie never played as far as i know

25. Hail, Caesar! (d: Coen Brothers) - 118 pts. 5 votes. 1 #1

http://i.imgur.com/tB1Eu5e.jpg

This was fun! Next to Victoria on my ballot I think. In fact I put it one place higher. If I'd swapped them around then they'd have swapped around here - and I'm now thinking I should have done. But hey - they're both good, even if you don't want to give Trivial Coens a cheap pass

the reviews calling this a great film about catholicism made me wonder if i'd fallen asleep and missed an hour

Agree with all those saying EWS was lackluster. I watched it twice and the second time it just fell flat and the only good scenes IMO were the cliched' as hell stoner dude.

I'm sympathetic in 2017 to well-turned empty gorgeousness like A Bigger Splash.

God Victoria feels like an age ago, I'd forgotten about it. I just checked last year's ballot to see if I voted for it then or something, I hadn't but did vote for Rams & the falling which I wasted some time talking about upthread. I should maybe pay more attention to which years I see things in (lol jokes nobody should)

gonna repeat my hot take here for the nth time. Hail Caesar! is a fantasy of the old H'wood studio system, from the POV by the studio system - thus the loyal, upstanding hatchet man is the protagonist, there's commies behind every bush, the talent are all good-for-nothing degenerates and traitors, only the enforced acquiescence to the beneficence of the system keeps things running smoothly.

that being said, Brolin's not given enough to work with and as such the seams stitching all the pastiches together show a bit too much

24. Son of Saul (d: Nemes) - 129 pts. 5 votes 1 #1

http://i.imgur.com/HauP8uP.jpg

With distance I just wasn't that arsed by Victoria - the 'gimmick' has been used a couple of other times already in blockbuster films, the main character's story was underwritten and I'd rather it wasn't told. Near the bottom of my ballot, that's about right for the average thing it was.

Victoria and Son of Saul are right next to each other near the bottom of my ballot lol. Distance really made me cool off on both.

23. I, Daniel Blake (d: Loach) - 137 pts. 6 votes

http://i.imgur.com/s680ebv.jpg

fuck the tory scum!

my #6. wanted to cheer at the end

That scene at the food bank..

Don't think it's opened in the US yet. It played a festival here but I missed it.

22. The Neon Demon (d: Refn) - 141 pts. 7 votes

http://i.imgur.com/RGlKjpD.jpg

Keanu is pretty great in this

Final one for the day. Apologies again for the fast clip, but it couldn't be helped. I promise tomorrow will be at a more reasonable time and at a more leisurely pace.

21. The Assasin (d: Hsiao Hsien) - 143 pts. 5 votes. 1 #1

http://i.imgur.com/dYu3VKI.jpg

Placed at 19 last year.

the 20th best film of the biennial

Neon Demon is an immoral picture.

I've heard some defences of it, but as far as I know, Refn still has not publicly apologized for Only God Forgives, so I won't be watching it.

Weird to see Neon Demon place so high. I like Refn (and horror) more than most and thought it was pretty vapid, overall, a weak reflection of much better films by Hélène Cattet & Bruno Forzani. Eyeball scene is astonishing, but it only goes so far toward redeeming the rest.

my God, you... what do you people see

... in mediocrity?

... in films from 2015?

well, many of them voted for a wheezy retread four months ago

The Other Side is the standout of that stretch.

Neon Demon is trash..not even its elevation of substance over style can save that.

I meant style over substance...

Uhlich had an intriguing but ultimately unconvincing defense. Bits have stayed with me, but mostly the eye and Malone and "is he just pulling straight from Girl Model?"

I meant style over substance...

lol struggled for a minute there

lol

The Other Side is the standout of that stretch.

yeah, that's why no one had anything to say about it, didn't have the cachet of renowned auteur Brady Corbet

We were just waiting for you to set the tone of our discourse.

I'm a little surprised there weren't 2 dozen articles and blog posts about it post-election.

I was out watching a 4K version of Ugetsu, to mention a film that towers over everything i saw from last year

I haven't recovered from the opening scenes in which Mathias Schoenaerts rolls in the mud.

i haven't recovered from his acting, or the bimbette's

not partic looking forward to Guagagnino's Armie Hammer-teenage Italian boy romance as a result

Loving the rundown so far. Good thing about relatively small polls is seeing all the things that only make the 50 because of your own ballot (starting with The Club, Our Little Sister and Rams). The POWER.

Childhood of a Leader, Sing Street and The Lobster the only "get this off the list" moments for me so far.

Victoria was my #1 in a very personal 3am eternal kind of way. It left me ravished.

EWS was a pretty good "dudes being dudes" movie but I can't imagine putting it on a ballot or really ever thinking about it again.

― Gukbe, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 23:11 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Agree with all those saying EWS was lackluster. I watched it twice and the second time it just fell flat and the only good scenes IMO were the cliched' as hell stoner dude.

― Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 9 March 2017 00:16 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The good thing about these posts is that the both make sense if you read them with my initial thought that EWS stands for Eyes Wide Shut.

The Other Side was banal. I wrote a political blogpost about it in fall 2015, and there's really nothing to say. Oh, look at these freaks...

Could we ban 'trash' and 'style over substance' from future discussion? This is ILX, we have standards.

Catching up -

The Assassin was my number one - by some distance the best 'new' film I saw in 2016 (and yes, fit to be viewed alongside a digital restoration of Ugetsu). I liked it so much I went back to see it again on a screen a couple of days later, something I haven't done in years.

Nice pairing of Fire at Sea (which I've seen) and No Home Movie (which I haven't) - bet they would make a good double bill.

EWS was a pretty good "dudes being dudes" movie but I can't imagine putting it on a ballot or really ever thinking about it again. So OTM - other (non-bro) films on this list that I enjoyed but not enough to note for = Rams, Victoria, Hail Caesar.

I'm not by any means a Refn-hater, but thought Neon Demon was amongst his very weakest films, and it's high-ish placing here seems generous, to say the least. Also, surprised by people praising The Falling so much - to me the script seemed seriously undercooked, and the 'folk horror' elements superficial, even cynical. Have no interest in: Zootopia, Sing Street, Hunt for the Wilderpeople.

Mountains May Depart is the film I most regret not seeing - I think it only got screened in Scotland as part of the Glasgow Film Festival, and I missed that, and so far there is no Region 2 Blu.

Oh, and I gave a high vote to Serra's Death of Louis XIV (which I again, I saw on its only screening in Scotland). Among its many pleasures is definitely the sense of it being a eulogy to Leaud, his face and body in old age (it was a good year for the older male lead actor - Measure of a Man yes, and I, Daniel Blake too.) Perhaps not quite as amazing as Serra's previous Story of My Death, but still a really wonderful chamber piece.

Neon Demon probably also benefited from people being able to see it. I liked it very much, though it's not as good as Only God Forgives. The problem with filmmakers 'elevating style over substance' is rarely the lack of substance for me, but that they're never stylish enough. Refn is.

The Assassin was great, yeah. Amazing style, amazing substance (and I did get annoyed at people who claimed it was impenetrable, where it just played off a fairly well known historical situation, in China at least).

calling EWS!! a "dudes being dudes" movie = classic surface-only categorism nonsense

Hail Caesar and Malick's Beverly Hills Crap possibly my bottom two of the year

To give an impression, to give a shit, after all, would cloud the sheen of Refn’s film. It shows ts a series of well-dressed and attractive women who, to a symphony of yawns, get hurt. That it’s women hurting women instead of men is supposed to be progress in 2016.

yeah it was bullshit

This is literally Everybody Wants Some in 6 seconds.
https://twitter.com/ComplexSports/status/821461936218972161

Back to at least Bleeder Refn has been obsessed with inhumanity, with reducing his characters to essentials and have them run loose. When he's best it becomes like a fairy-tale world, the Nørrebro of Bleeder and Bangkok of Only God Forgives, for example, are incredible filmic creations imo. Neon Demon does the same thing with literal vampires, and it's not at all surprising anymore. But on the most simple level, people moving in rooms, it's still often breathtaking.

Neon demon looked and sounded great but was just too stupid & unpleasant. The greasy strangler took that space on my ballot

And the COLOUR. It knocked me out. Don't know how I would thought of it if I'd seen it on a small screen.

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I was out watching a 4K version of Ugetsu, to mention a film that towers over everything i saw from last year

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 8, 2017 11:12 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ooooh, this might be an implied answer to my ponderings in the Criterion thread about whether it was ever going to get a BR release.

yes, the Janus logo etc take it to the bank

I'm shocked that one of the upper-most echelon masterpieces of all world cinema would tower over the 50 or so odd films one saw from the most recent calendar year.

you aren't. others wd be

nice Slant review btw

(62 odd films and counting, aiming for 90)

xp Can't bear to look.

morbius otm re:EWS!!

The good thing about these posts is that the both make sense if you read them with my initial thought that EWS stands for Eyes Wide Shut.

It gets even better imagining the title as Eyes Wide Shut!!

it's been nearly 10 years since i saw ugetsu monagatari but iirc it's great, would have probably been in my top 3 or 4 for 2016

Heh, #5 in 1953 ... but then again would've been my #5 in 2013 too.

Usually if I vote in these things I wonder if my email actually was received or if maybe I've just got shit taste, but my top 3 has already featured and Sunset Song which I thought most of ILX either hated or were indifferent about. I love the look of The Death Of Louis XIV.

Heh, #5 in 1953 ... but then again would've been my #5 in 2013 too.

― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), T

you're too short for that gesture

20. Hell or High Water (d: Mackenzie) - 143 pts. 8 votes

http://i.imgur.com/L03ZLXE.jpg

best of the American 'Oscar movies' that i've seen

^otm

Often very good and would watch it again and am glad that the OMIGOD THIS IS HOW MOVIES USED TO BE MADE trope didn't take hold in December or January.

yay, first one ive seen and have strong feelings about, really a great film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFim0IPtmrM

well, no
xp

could've used a third less foreclosure/loan signs, we GET it

Bridges-Gil Birmingham scenes, esp the last one, among my faves of the year tho

can't believe i don't remember that actress from No Country

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0101358/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t26

19. Green Room (d: Saulnier) - 160 pts. 8 votes

http://i.imgur.com/HSfAfiU.jpg

18.I Am Not Your Negro (d: Peck) - 163 pts. 7 votes

http://i.imgur.com/koCUAv4.jpg

Green Room was thrilling

had IANYN 10th. Read Baldwin's The Devil Finds Work, about cinema and much more, before or after.

The friend I saw it with pointed out that Dick Cavett's reaction shots were a highlight.

The Devil Finds Work is among the greatest one-off works of film criticism.

first Baldwin I read twenty years ago

17. Arabian Nights (d: Gomes) - 165 pts. 5 votes 2 #1

http://i.imgur.com/wISGbDx.jpg

Combined trilogy was at 38 last year. This year it was all for the trilogy save one, for part 1. I just put them together.

My #1. Completely astounding and felt like a new cinematic language

Also hilarious, tearjerking, insanely surreal, beautifully observed, patient, grand and playful - as if made for me

Also I love chaffinches so I'm more than happy to sit through an hour of them

looking forward to seeing this!

I rewatched the whole thing. Woulda downgraded off my ballot. :/

(from last year)

had I voted (didn't feel like I'd seen enough to vote) Green Room would have been my #1

I loved Tabu but still haven't got around to these. Guess it's just a mental block on 3 films. Maybe if they cut them down into bite size episodes on ESPN...

16. The Witch (d: Eggers) - 168 pts. 8 votes

http://i.imgur.com/Wg5pRoa.jpg

gah

creepily diverting then the last fifteen minutes were pure trash sorry

(didn't feel like I'd seen enough to vote)

If I Love Film runs a poll, that can be a concern then.

Would've predicted that one higher here.

Loved it. Including the ending.

I started to watch it, turned it off for no good reason – think my kitchen needed scrubbing

gah

creepily diverting then the last fifteen minutes were pure trash sorry

― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Thursday, March 9, 2017 9:58 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jesus christ WHAT

gonna rewatch during time off next week

i mean i love pure trash but it didn't occur to me to align the ending of the vvitch with trash

(especially bc i think the last 15 minutes are the best part of the movie)

First fadeout would have been the perfect ambiguous-but-final point to end it, then look here is Big Crowleyan Goat Sex Master to steer her into Full Magick ugh

the ending pretty much makes the film for me, looking forward to what eggers does next.

can I just say that I love freeze frames of James Baldwin?

there's a free display name there if anyone wants it btw

I resisted thinking of Arabian Nights as the best film of the year, with imago telling me on an almost daily basis that it definitely was, but eventually I had to concede that I also thought so. For originality of voice more than anything else, it is the film that I thought about more than any other and the director whose work I am most excited to follow. It's so wild.

Also loved Green Room - a pretty incredible genre exercise that was genuinely terrifying.

First fadeout would have been the perfect ambiguous-but-final point to end it, then look here is Big Crowleyan Goat Sex Master to steer her into Full Magick ugh

― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Thursday, March 9, 2017 10:03 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah that shit is awesome

ending on ambiguity would've just made the film a big metaphor and imo fuck metaphors

liked the ending, also liked the scenes with the goat and the rabbit

I've seen complaints that the end is a tonal shift, but that never gelled with me considering 5 minutes into the movie we actually see the Witch. It's not like it's building suspense as to whether there is something supernatural going. I also appreciate taking historical writings on "superstitions" literally. The fact that it functions as a critique of patriarchy without really expanding on the sources is a bonus.

Hated The Witch. Found the main bulk of the film achingly dull and empty and all of its semi-lucid points about repressed female sexuality rendered totally null and boring by a blatantly misogynistic ending.

I don't understand how that's a misogynist ending.

Having a male goat-figure as master of her awakening is about as patriarchal as it gets imo

goatriarchal

ok i will take y'alls word for it but idk a group of witches levitating above a fire is Fucking Awesome imo

I think, within the parameters of the time, it was the least misogynist ending.

the last 15 minutes are the best part of the movie)

― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson)

the ending pretty much makes the film for me

― devvvine

getting it

Naked women floating in the woods under the spell of a devil goat is the misogynist fantasy created at the time, and I think it makes sense that after all the "female weakness" and fear of sexuality that goes through, that it seems like the best alternative. The fact that the movie sees it as cathartic rather than scary is why I can't see it as misogynist.

"ok y'all go cry about your rotting crops imma go fly in the woods"

being a cool af witch >>>>>>>> doing farm work

"I've seen complaints that the end is a tonal shift, but that never gelled with me considering 5 minutes into the movie we actually see the Witch."

I didn't really feel like this. I started out thinking that the movie was going to be more about psychological and religious fears and thought the shift in perspective was gradual

That ending shot was right out of Goya.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Witches_Flight_Goya.jpg/300px-Witches_Flight_Goya.jpg

Why should a centuries-old fantasy be the basis for the interpretation of a contemporary film? That makes zero sense. It's not critiquing the fantasy in any way. I love levitating witches as much as anyone and in concept, this film was something I couldn't wait for. But ceding literally all the power of all the women to one man? Fuck that. Also it was very boring.

I mean the film is pretty much subtitled 'a folktale' and the 'one man' is literally the devil?

have The Witch out of the library. might watch if i renew it 99x

If you're taking the film word for word from primary sources, with the aim of putting on screen bit and pieces from what was said and believed at the time, then yes, it is the basis of interpretation. We interpret it differently because of how it's made/edited/what he's chosen to use, and because we have a different belief system/understanding of gender.

Her smile at the end (it must be the first smile in the film since playing with the baby) says a lot. Maybe you guys just don't want to live deliciously!

*splutters*

The devil could have been incorporated in many different ways. I just don't think it needed such a tired exposition. I thought it undermined everything that had been semi-interesting about the exploration of female sexuality in that context.

I liked the film, but at the time I remember wondering if the ending would have been more powerful without any supernatural reveal.

The performance by the young boy, in his one big scene, is quite remarkable.

I imagine you'd struggle to find the devil as being a woman during the witch trials, but maybe.

15. Cemetery of Splendour (d: Weerasethakul) - 178 pts. 5 votes

http://i.imgur.com/Lg2db4t.jpg

I really loved this movie. The scene with the dead princesses was eerie and beautiful.

The first Joe I didn't love.

intended a rewatch that didn't happen, couldn't vote for it. Nodded off a bit seeing it at 2015 NYFF. Obv some arresting imagery and usual Joe mysterious rhythms.

I'm starting to worry about Deadpool turning up at all.

It's OK to nod off during Joe and still love it (I didn't this time)

The final voiceover in the film (probably better in Thai): “There is a mountain of bricks. It spreads out like a flower blossom. It stretches to the sky to devour the sun. It is very far away. It looks ominous and fearsome. It pretends to be a pure and flawless being, pretends to be as soft as a child's palm. Before it disappears the wall bulges and changes shape, as if it knows that when it falls it will be an astounding sight to behold.”

All of his films seem to me to be variations on the idea that the spirit world and real world coexist, that all you need to do is open your eyes

I wish The VVitch had been released completely under the radar so that people didn't feel the need to point out how overrated it is.

It's great, btw, eff the haters.

I'm starting to worry about Aferim! turning up at all

Wtf is this weird reliance on historicity as the pinnacle of cinematic meaning? If the film is really only about recapturing and depicting the morals of the time then I just have no idea why anyone would think it was even interesting to make that film. Had there been a valuable critique of the devil as this power-giving puppeteer inherent in obvious interpretations of the film then it would have been alright, but why do I want to watch yet another film about men being the key to sexuality? It's lazy and disappointing. Why couldn't she have found the coven on her own? What would that have detracted from the so-called accuracy of the film? It sounds like the supporting argument here is 'ah but it wouldn't have been like that because in those days the devil would have intervened'.

Okay, I'll stop talking about The Witch now because I think maybe there is a need to be less negative but idk idk I just hated it I'm sorry

Old Lunch otm

Historical accuracy isn't the pinnacle of cinematic meaning, but if the filmmaker sets out to take historical record at face value and go from there, then I'm okay with approaching the work from that perspective. Granted, I have a personal appreciation of this, having spent years in a history degree where you read Gregory of Tours talk about God's intervention in Clovis' life and you're asked to interpret that to mean x, y, z, etc. If she makes the choice, she makes the choice, and within the context, it seems the most empowering one, regardless of the gender of the goat.

Or maybe I should say that everyone knows the devil as a female seducing goat doesn't exist...what this movie presupposes is..maybe he did?

lol

Okay, well as I have a personal appreciation of the depiction of female sexuality, I think that the gender of the goat is not something to be so easily dismissed

cemetery of splendour is fuckin amazing incidentally

i also spent years studying gregory of tours so maybe thats the key to liking it

14. The Handmaiden (d: Park) - 185 pts. 8 votes

http://i.imgur.com/UqSUB2W.jpg

I didn't dislike The Handmaiden but the suspicion that the straight male director was leering at the lesbian sex didn't escape me.

well worth the vadge POV shots

ridiculous and beautiful

Had a great time with that one.

You dirty rotter

the very final scene felt very unnecessary and leering but really enjoyed the rest on the edge of my seat

in retrospect, could have worded that differently

I didn't dislike The Handmaiden but the suspicion that the straight male director was leering at the lesbian sex didn't escape me.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, March 9, 2017 10:55 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's a lot of writing about this you should read

here's a horribly nested tumblr post about it http://abloodymess.tumblr.com/post/158162931240/shesnake-katherinebarlow-itsnoriarty

The devil could have been incorporated in many different ways. I just don't think it needed such a tired exposition. I thought it undermined everything that had been semi-interesting about the exploration of female sexuality in that context.

― tangenttangent, Thursday, March 9, 2017 9:31 AM (eleven minutes ago)

Young woman exists in a patriarchal, oppressive system that denies her all agency. She is seduced by that system's fantasy of evil, conveyed primarily through images of female power (present in both beauty and terror). When she finally finally accepts the Devil's hand, she is liberated, literally elevated.

It makes sense to me that the "ultimate evil" of Puritan imagination appears here as a male Devil. And the film's themes come through more clearly, I think, when the heroine's embrace of what her culture fears is played using traditional imagery. Packs a bigger shock-wallop that way, too.

Honestly, I think it's less about the rejection of Christianity or the patriarchy as a means of self-empowerment as the rejection of "the good". Like, to be evil is better than good, freer, truer, more powerful and happier. But, sure, a female Devil would have been interesting.

Loved The Handmaiden. The more explicit/sleazy elements of the sex scenes didn't bother me, but nor did I think they added much. Was more troubled by the pointless and overlong torture sequence. Great movie despite all that.

That line about "you seem really good at this for a novice" made the sex scenes worth it.

13. Love & Friendship (d: Stillman) - 186 pts. 9 votes

http://i.imgur.com/qQhVbAE.jpg

this film rules

woohoo! whit stillman is so darling

i didn't even know he had a new one let alone it was good!

When she finally finally accepts the Devil's hand, she is liberated, literally elevated.

I just can't comfortably look past this, nor do I find it a powerful or shocking device in the slightest. I think Puritanical fear of female liberation was a more central issue that for me would have made more sense here as the coven forming in opposition to patriarchal force rather than that being its catalyst.

ooo and apparently on amazon prime so i know what i'm watching tnite

Love and Friendship was great fun

your sixth movie of the year

xp

I think I rank Stillman's differently to everyone else (Barcelona > Damsels in Distress > Metropolitan > Last Days of Disco > Love & Friendship) and I definitely got sick of Tom Bennett's nincompoop schtick.

Still pissed at how the trailer ruins the best joke though. Ban trailers

ditto, which is why L&F is slightly overrated

xp

glad I saw this on dvd. understanding the rapid-fire introduction of the characters and their interrelationships benefited from some rewinding

sorry that was garbled

i like love & friendship a lot. it is very likable

I saw it again over the holiday break and loved it anew

Enjoyed Love and Friendship, but I've managed to remember very little of it beyond the fact that I had a good time watching it.

Yeah, I watched the 1995 Persuasion right after and that's stuck in my head more. But L&F was funny.

I said at the time that The Handmaiden was queer in a facile way. I may watch it again.

12. Silence (d: Scorsese) - 206 pt. 9 votes

http://i.imgur.com/VlzxbYY.jpg

lol

pretty amazing film imo

the most un-scorsese of scorsese films, i think. i really enjoy his stylistic tics overall, which is why i've never minded him returning to the well often, but this one is a late breakthrough for him directorially.

oh I want to see it, was just amused by the uh silence

that silence pic made some of us catholic types think it was Angelus-time!

it seemed v Scorsesey to me

was struck that Scorcese made this with no soundtrack or score (outside of a few scenes with local music). is this something new for him? it was kind of refreshing

missed opportunities: "Get Off of My Cloud", "Hanging Around", "Walking with Jesus"

lol

11. O.J.: Made in America (d: Edelman) - 209 pts. 6 votes 3 #1

http://i.imgur.com/T2KlD5E.jpg

Is this where I say I liked the Ryan Murphy serial and would be interested in seeing this too?

cue Morbius grumbling

interested in this but tbh my least favorite thing in the world are graphic death photos.

Let me be Morbs for a minute and quote from Reverse Shot:

This mesmerizing, multilayered production from ESPN for its 30 for 30 documentary series was a continually regenerative and revealing investigation into OJ Simpson as both man and symbol, while never losing sight of the larger societal and sociological forces that both created his public identity and conspired to allow him to get away with murder. This television show, nearly eight hours in length but made digestible for home viewing because it was divided into five segments of approximately ninety minutes each, is a marvel of editing and dialectical inquiry, endlessly searching yet confident that the indirect lines it’s drawing between the decades of racism and urban unrest in Los Angeles in the second half of the twentieth century and the lead-up and public response to the beloved African-American athlete’s acquittal in the murder of his long-abused wife will bear dramatic fruit. After watching this absolutely penetrating, perfectly structured episodic television study of this era-defining event, which passes from OJ’s childhood to his football and post-sports entertainment careers and on to, most extensively, the televised courtroom drama that became a part of nearly every American’s living room in the mid-nineties, any attentive viewer will no longer be able to think of the murder trial as a contained event with its own beginning and end. This devastating television miniseries reminds you that history—personal or public—exists on a continuum. Check it out on ESPN or Hulu or other channels for your television. —Michael Koresky

Also missed: "Turning Japanese"

cue Morbius grumbling

I expected this to be first.

so holding out hope for an Elle win

I thought the early sections of this with OJ's childhood in SF and his time at USC and then in Buffalo were interesting

lol jed

10. Elle (d: Verhoeven) - 216 pts. 9 votes

http://i.imgur.com/sP43dmd.jpg

too low, funniest film of the year

oh damn me, a Marvel top nine i guess

Seeing Elle next weekend.

I resisted thinking of Arabian Nights as the best film of the year, with imago telling me on an almost daily basis that it definitely was, but eventually I had to concede that I also thought so.

Louie is this the only time you've convinced anyone of anything?

big Oscars/ILX overlap this year (and that's ok)

idk jools you tell me

was struck that Scorcese made this with no soundtrack or score (outside of a few scenes with local music). is this something new for him? it was kind of refreshing

It did have a score – but very minimal.

http://filmdoctor.co.uk/2017/02/02/silence-composer-kim-allen-kluge-in-conversation/

Into the first couple of parts of O.J. Its good TV, wouldn't vote for it.

Silence was definitely my thread of the year. ILE at its best.

oh damn me, a Marvel top nine i guess

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, March 9, 2017 1:21 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I refrained from voting so that I could do my part in sparing you this hell, Morbs.

ILX has done extremely well to push a certain fairly obscure documentary this high btw

9. Certain Women (d: Reichardt) - 223 pts. 8 votes

http://i.imgur.com/sP43dmd.jpg

oops!

9. Certain Women (d: Reichardt) - 223 pts. 8 votes

http://i.imgur.com/qxjmwjg.jpg

John Landis's Don Rickles Project?

xxxp

lol morbs

I guess 'documentary' is a bit misleading

voted CW 11th, thought the M Williams segment was a notch below the rest. Fine tho.

Louie is this the only time you've convinced anyone of anything?

...convinced in spite of, just to be clear

see, I've never convinced anyone of anything

Lol, I'm sorry

Aw, just kidding! <3

I think Jute Gyte appearing annually on the eoy albums poll can be credited partially to lj's efforts tbf

that is a nice little segue into a certain musical movie I expect to come next

Count me among those astonished OJ didn't get into the top 10, much less top 5 or #1. Did you all throw your "give Morbs an aneurysm" votes to Beyonce?

8. Embrace of the Serpent (d: Guerra) - 239 pts. 10 votes

http://i.imgur.com/CdnWsoT.jpg

Oh shit! My #7, utterly captivating. The bit when the invaders turn up to torch the town is an especially amazing scene

brilliant film, my number 4

just beautiful, glad it made the top ten

voted for the last three

Was starting to worry it might not place at all.

had that 9th despite lysergic windup

I thought the ropey death cult segment let the whole film down tbh

brb adding 'hates psychedelia' to my morbs xls

7. Cameraperson (d: Johnson) - 244 pts. 9 votes 1 #1

http://i.imgur.com/3mHpSjM.jpg

ELLE could've been called CERTAIN WOMEN

Cameraperson 15th for me. Echoes in disparate projects were just implicit/explicit enough.

Aha! Here it is. My #5. Went into it expecting some faintly pleasing visual collage - the sort xyzzzz would go apeshit for just to sound arty - but left profoundly moved. Love that she shares her kids with Ira Sachs too

Also, has a single Bosnian kid ever stolen a movie so comprehensively?

I thought the old woman wrapping the scarf around her neck stole the movie

That too

KIDS PLAYIN' WITH AXES

The scene that Gukbe's image is taken from is one of the best of the year too

Tried to find an image of the kid with the axe! Those women were great though.

6. Paterson (d: Jarmusch) - 247 pts. 11 votes

http://i.imgur.com/SMTS35M.jpg

best actor

best ensemble perhaps as well, along w/ Elle

I'm liking these selections so far

The antidote to 2016

Elle was nothing like I was expecting it to be after skimming some reviews, her idiot son and his psycho partner and her responses to them were absolutely hilarious.

oh god the cut to hupperts face after "It's a blueberry dessert but I was feeling creative...So i added more blueberries!" killed me

Thought O.J. would surely finish higher. I missed Reichardt somehow, will have to catch up with that.

Top 5 starting shortly.

just control f-ed Things To Come, I'm guessing that won't have made the cut at this point.

no way things to come doesn't place

5.Things to Come (d: Hansen-Løve) - 271 pts. 10 votes 1 #1

http://i.imgur.com/v8AbNCR.jpg

lol i was right. my number 1, i love this film. it’s beauty and sincerity just bowled me over and has stayed with me since in a really profound way.

(it also really reminds me of kiki’s delivery service)

xp Huh.

Didn't come close to voting for it, tho I liked

lol! what I know about the ilx movie clique can be written on a grain of rice. I honestly didn't think many people would vote for it.

tt, just now: "I hate French emotion"

Things to Come was typically smart Huppert flick

Lord strike me dead if La La Land is in the top 5.

4. Moonlight (d: Jenkins) - 297 pts. 11 votes #2

http://i.imgur.com/kyS5Hxn.jpg

shit, we didn't see this in time, feel a bit bad now

I thought this would have got the no. 1 spot actually

Thought this was going to be number 1 for certain. Definitely feeling guilty about throwing a number of points to La La Land now...

just control f-ed Things To Come, I'm guessing that won't have made the cut at this point.

― calzino, Thursday, March 9, 2017 12:44 PM (thirteen minutes ago)

no way things to come doesn't place

― devvvine, Thursday, March 9, 2017 12:45 PM (thirteen minutes ago)

5.Things to Come (d: Hansen-Løve) - 271 pts. 10 votes 1 #1

― Gukbe, Thursday, March 9, 2017 12:48 PM (ten minutes ago)

nice work

I think moonlight is great but have really enjoyed alfred's review/criticisms of it

toni is winning this right?

Does that mean 2 people voted Moonlight #1?

Oh – I see it correct on the photo now.

so many things I loved about this - the scenes with Juan, Naomi Harris and the shocking silent 'faggot!' moment of the first part, the violin score, the love scene-fight scene-revenge scene sequence of the middle section, Ashton Sanders (the best of an amazing cast in my opinion), “classic man”, the redemption of the third part, Trevante Rhodes, Andre Holland, “hello stranger”...

Becoming concerned that my own top 3 is going to be the actual ilx top 3

why is that a cause of concern?

3. American Honey (d: Arnold) - 300 pts. 10 votes. 1 #1

http://i.imgur.com/Lwi34Gq.jpg

ugh

hahahahaha does this mean what I think it means

Xp because I'm a precious little flower? It's not really but that's one down 2 to go

Moonlight is a 7/10. Probably around #27-30 for me.

Honey has a few moments, but half-gaseous, to be charitable.

fuck the haters this is an amazing film

really looking forward to seeing this

Woody Allen will win next year's poll if his 1950s Coney Island movie has a Rihanna needledrop

Woody Allen will win next year's poll if his 1950s Coney Island movie has a Rihanna E-40 needledrop

thought that the whole concept of door-to-door magazine subscription sales was odd, is this a real thing? but really liked the movie overall, and despite meandering it did not seem overlong

It seemed to be shot entirely at sunset! The scene with the guys from the oil rig was great

mag subscription selling is a real thing.

idea came from this 2007 piece http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/21/us/21magcrew.html

American Honey makes a great neo-realist musical

Alright, here's the top 2. They were runaways.

2. Manchester by the Sea (d: Lonergan) - 379 pts. 15 votes 2 #1

http://i.imgur.com/vqUMI57.jpg

1. Toni Erdmann (d: Ade) - 475 pts. 18 votes 2 #1

http://i.imgur.com/sqnQcHm.jpg

correct

both amazing films and toni erdmann the slightly more amazing, my #4 and #2, good stuff ilx

Not quite as thrilling as KING winning the album 77, but it'll do.

FFS, can we just run this on I Love Film next time.

a deserved winner, not as high on it as a lot of people but can't help but root for it <3

ILE for Marvel, ILF for A24?

Been a long time making American Honey and the film avoids the issue of smartphones and perhaps exact time period.

La La Land tied for #62 with Aferim! btw

I just saw Toni Erdmann on Sunday and it made my number 2 slot. It could have easily got in at first place. Its unlike any movie I've ever seen, hard to know which way it was going to go

Was I the only person crass and tasteless enough to vote for Triple 9?

Thanks for running poll, Gukbe. It made for a very good list, I reckon.

yes thank you! a fine selection to be sure, looking forward to seeing the ones i haven't

Yeah I had the top 3 as my top 3 same order so I can't complain. The bit in Toni Erdmann where she follows him to the park when he's all dressed up as the Bulgarian spirit monster thing was the most moved I've been in a cinema all year

that whole extended scene was like some kind of out of body experience, nothing has been like it

otm

My highest non-placed pick: Louder Than Bombs at #16, closely followed by Couple in a Hole and Julieta.

Annoyed I missed Cameraperson in cinemas and newly determined to catch up with Arabian Nights.

yeah thanks Gukbe this was great!

Your Name didn't place but it's super fun and people should see it

What a fantastic list. And the fact. That La La Land came in joint 62nd place with a black and white Romanian film is the cherry on top.

yes thanks!

Manchester fell just short for me (wd've voted for Fences before it, possibly). Had Toni #7.

humbly suggest March for FYCs next year, first week of April rollout

I'm surprised Tale of Tales didnt feature in the list

My highest non-placed pick: Louder Than Bombs at #16, closely followed by Couple in a Hole and Julieta.

Oh, I forgot Tale of Tales actually – my #14. Overall, only six of my 25 didn't make top 50. Mr Mainstream.

Grats on liking such unpopular movies everyone

Top 60, I mean.

Henderson who is a really great character actor is excellent in Fences.

Best top ten in a while.

I haven't learned to love Erdmann yet, but I've I've watched it twice. It's a baffling, fascinating movie.

i can't believe bloggers get screeners ;)

Louie is this the only time you've convinced anyone of anything?

...convinced in spite of, just to be clear

― tangenttangent, Thursday, 9 March 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sounds like you've been brainwashed

FFS, can we just run this on I Love Film next time.

― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 9 March 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Its 2017, 100 years since the Bolshevik revolution - shit is happening and you don't have the stamina for the Trump era I'm afraid - never mind for what's coming.

Thanks for doing it Gukbe, this is a p/good list

can't believe the film poll didn't have enough children's films in it

Or Anime!

Gukbe can you post the full list please

Hooray for American Honey, Toni Erdmann, and Things to Come! Good year for female directors. Plus I feel weirdly in sync with ILX this year.

No animation other than Tower and Anomolisa, thought 'Kubo & the Two Strings' would place.

Also, thanks again for doing this Gukbe!

Excellent work with the screen grabs too.

I strongly suspect Your Name will place very highly next year. Perhaps top ten.

Toni Erdmann 475 18
Manchester By The Sea 379 15
American Honey 300 10
Moonlight 297 11
Things to Come 271 10
Paterson 247 11
Cameraperson 244 9
Embrace of the Serpent 239 10
Certain Women 223 8
Elle 216 9
O.J.: Made in America 209 6
Silence 206 9
Love & Friendship 186 9
The Handmaiden 185 8
Cemetery of Splendour 178 5
The Witch 168 8
Arabian Nights 165 5
I Am Not Your Negro 163 7
Green Room 160 8
Hell or High Water 143 8
The Assassin 143 5
The Neon Demon 141 7
I, Daniel Blake 137 6
Son of Saul 129 5
Hail, Casear! 118 5
Victoria 115 6
A Bigger Splash 114 4
Mountains May Depart 112 4
The Other Side 111 4
The Measure of a Man 108 4
Hunt for the Wilderpeople 92 6
Weiner Dog 91 4
Everybody Wants Some!! 85 5
Little Men 85 5
Childhood of a Leader 83 3
Knight of Cups 83 4
Fire At Sea 82 4
No Home Movie 82 4
Sunset Song 82 3
The Death of Louis XIV 81 3
Loving 77 4
20th Century Women 76 5
Arrival 73 5
Sieranevada 72 2
The Fits 71 4
Jackie 70 4
High Rise 69 3
The Lobster 68 4
Sing Street 66 3
Anomalisa 65 3
Maggie's Plan 65 3
Indignation 63 3
Tower 63 3
Pearl Button 62 2
Rams 57 4
De Palma 56 2
The Love Witch 56 2
Zootopia 56 3
Our Little Sister 50 3
The Club 47 3
Eisenstein in Guanajuato 46 2
Aferim 45 2
La La Land 42 2
Train to Busan 41 2
A Quiet Passion 40 1
Being 17 40 1
Visit or Memories and Confessions 40 1
Weiner 39 2
Chevalier 38 2
The Woman Who Left 38 2
Deapool 37 2
Under the Shadow 37 2
When Marnie Was There 37 2
White Girl 36 1
Tale of Tales 35 3
Dirty Grandpa 33 1
Julieta 33 2
Mustang 33 2
The Nice Guys 33 1
The Red Turtle 33 2
Remainder 32 2
My Golden Days 31 3
Happy Hour 30 1
Kubo and the Two Strings 30 1
Nocturnal Animals 30 2
Standing Tall 30 1
Hypernormalisation 29 2
Right Now, Wrong THen 29 2
The Illinois Parables 29 2
Captain America: Civil War 28 1
Cosmos 28 1
Scarred Hearts 28 1
Keanu 26 2
Nothing Left Unsaid 26 1
The Greasy Strangler 26 1
The Wialing 26 1
Evolution 25 2
Ixcanul 25 1
Kate Plays Christine 25 2
Men and Chicken 25 2
Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping 25 2
Supersonic 25 1
Swiss Army Man 25 1
Couple in a Hole 24 2
In the Last Days of the city 24 1
Lemonade 24 1
Mapplethorpe: Look at Pictures 24 1
Queen of Katwe 24 2
Triple 9 24 1
Into the Inferno 23 1
Mimosas 23 1
The Edge of Seventeen 23 1
The Invitation 23 1
A Lullaby to the Sorrowful Mystery 22 1
Aaaaaaah! 22 1
Author: THe JT LeRoy Story 22 1
Christine 22 1
Florence Foster Jenkins 22 1
Passengers 22 1
The Treasure 22 1
Dog Eat Dog 21 1
Kaili Blues 21 1
The Son of Joseph 21 1
Tickled 21 1
Your Name 21 4
Histoire(s) Du cinema 20 1
The Ornithologist 20 1
Girls Lost 19 1
The Hateful Eight 19 1
Don't Think Twice 18 1
Neruda 18 1
Not Film 18 1
10 Cloverfield Lane 17 2
Aquarius 17 1
Creepy 17 1
Eat That Question: Frank Zappa... 17 1
King Jack 17 1
Nocturama 17 1
Serena 17 1
A Town Called Panic: Back in School 16 1
El Sur 16 1
I Am Not A Serial Killer 16 1
Louder than Bombs 16 1
The Jungle Book 16 1
Doctor Strange 15 1
Don't Blink 15 1
In the Shadow of Women 15 1
Captain Fantastic 14 1
Harmonium 14 1
Le Fils de Joseph 14 1
My Friend from the Park 14 1
Neon Bull 14 2
Other People 14 1
February 13 1
Star Trek Beyond 13 1
Sully 13 1
Janis: Little Girl Blue 12 1
Sweet Bean 12 1
Hacksaw Ridge 11 1
Halfway 11 1
Microbe and Gasoline 11 1
The Happiest Day in the Life of Olli Maki 11 1
The Sundial Carved with a Thousand... 11 1
Uncle Kent 2 11 1
American Pastoral 10 1
JLG/JLG 10 1
The United States of Love 10 1
Godless 9 1
King Lear 9 1
Sweaty Betty 9 1
Cafe Society 8 1
One Sings, the Other Doesn't 8 1
The Untamed 8 1
In the Realm of the Sense 7 1
Papusza 7 1
The Last Family 7 1

Sigh. I was the lone voter for more than half my ballot, including my #1. Fucking release dates...

60. The Club (d: Larrain) - 47 pts. 3 votes
59. Our Little Sister (d: Koreeda) - 50 pts. 3 votes
57. (Tie) De Palma (d: Baumbach, Paltrow) - 56 pts. 2 votes
57. (Tie) The Love Witch (d: Biller) 56 pts. 2 votes
56. Zootopia (d: Howard, Moore) - 56 pts. 3 votes
55.Rams (d: Hakonarson) - 57 pts. 4 votes
54. The Pearl Button (d: Guzman) 62 pts. 2 votes. 1 #1
52. (Tie) Tower (d: Maitland) - 63 pts. 3 votes
52. (Tie) Indignation (d: Schamus) - 63 pts. 3 votes
50. (Tie) Anomalisa (d: Kaufman, Johnson) - 65 pts. 3 votes
50. (Tie) Maggie's Plan (d: Miller) - 65 pts. 3 votes
49. Sing Street (d: Carney) - 66 pts. 3 votes
48. The Lobster (d: Lanthimos) - 68 pts. 4 votes
47. High-Rise (d: Wheatley) 69 pts. 3 votes
46. Jackie (d: Larrain) - 70 pts. 4 votes
45. The Fits (d: Holmer) - 71 pts. 4 votes
44. Sieranevada (d: Puiu) - 72 pts. 2 votes
43. Arrival (d: Villenueve) - 73 pts. 5 votes
42. 20th Century Women (d: Mills) - 76 pts. 5 votes
41. Loving (d: Nichols) - 77 pts. 4 votes
40. The Death of Louis XIV (d: Serra) - 81 pts. 3 votes
39. Sunset Song (d: Davies) - 82 pts. 3 votes
37. (Tie) Fire At Sea (d: Rosi) - 82 pts. 4 votes
37. (Tie) No Home Movie (d: Akerman) - 82 pts. 4 votes
36. Childhood of a Leader (d: Pitt) - 83 pts. 3 votes
35. Knight of Cups (d: Malick) - 83 pts. 4 votes
33. (Tie) Little Men (d: Sachs) - 85 pts. 5 votes
33. (Tie) Everybody Wants Some!! (d: Linklater) - 85 pts. 5 votes
32. Weiner-Dog (d: Solondz) - 91 pts. 4 votes
31. Hunt for the Wilderpeople (d: Waititi) - 92 pts. 6 votes
30. The Measure of a Man (d: Brizé) - 108 pts. 4 votes
29. The Other Side (d: Minervini) - 111 pts. 4 votes. #1
28. Mountains May Depart (d: Jia) - 112 pts. 4 votes
27. A Bigger Splash (d: Guadagnino) - 114 pts. 4 votes
26. Victoria (d: Schipper) - 115 pts. 6 votes. 1 #1
25. Hail, Caesar! (d: Coen Brothers) - 118 pts. 5 votes. 1 #1
24. Son of Saul (d: Nemes) - 129 pts. 5 votes 1 #1
23. I, Daniel Blake (d: Loach) - 137 pts. 6 votes
22. The Neon Demon (d: Refn) - 141 pts. 7 votes
21. The Assasin (d: Hsiao Hsien) - 143 pts. 5 votes. 1 #1
20. Hell or High Water (d: Mackenzie) - 143 pts. 8 votes
19. Green Room (d: Saulnier) - 160 pts. 8 votes
18.I Am Not Your Negro (d: Peck) - 163 pts. 7 votes
17. Arabian Nights (d: Gomes) - 165 pts. 5 votes 2 #1
16. The Witch (d: Eggers) - 168 pts. 8 votes
15. Cemetery of Splendour (d: Weerasethakul) - 178 pts. 5 votes
14. The Handmaiden (d: Park) - 185 pts. 8 votes
13. Love & Friendship (d: Stillman) - 186 pts. 9 votes
12. Silence (d: Scorsese) - 206 pt. 9 votes
11. O.J.: Made in America (d: Edelman) - 209 pts. 6 votes 3 #1
10. Elle (d: Verhoeven) - 216 pts. 9 votes
9. Certain Women (d: Reichardt) - 223 pts. 8 votes
8. Embrace of the Serpent (d: Guerra) - 239 pts. 10 votes
7. Cameraperson (d: Johnson) - 244 pts. 9 votes 1 #1
6. Paterson (d: Jarmusch) - 247 pts. 11 votes
5.Things to Come (d: Hansen-Løve) - 271 pts. 10 votes 1 #1
4. Moonlight (d: Jenkins) - 297 pts. 11 votes 2 #1
3. American Honey (d: Arnold) - 300 pts. 10 votes. 1 #1
2. Manchester by the Sea (d: Lonergan) - 379 pts. 15 votes 2 #1
1. Toni Erdmann (d: Ade) - 475 pts. 18 votes 2 #1

Here is my extremely pedestrian ballot:

Things to Come
American Honey
Moonlight
Embrace of the Serpent
Elle
Manchester by the Sea
The Handmaiden
Toni Erdmann
Hell or High Water
Love and Friendship
Your Name
OJ: Made in America
Cameraperson
The Witch
I, Daniel Blake
Arrival
The Neon Demon
Captain Fantastic

hi-5 to the other person who voted for The Red Turtle

sup, calzino

also hello to the other persons who voted for Popstar and Queen of Katwe

here is my extremely motorised ballot

Arabian Nights (Parts 1-3)
Toni Erdmann
High-Rise
Manchester By The Sea
Cameraperson
I, Daniel Blake
Embrace Of The Serpent
Rams
Wiener-Dog
Our Little Sister
Chevalier
Love & Friendship
Green Room
Remainder
Little Men
A Town Called Panic: Back To School
Men And Chicken
The Club
Hail, Caesar!
Victoria
Keanu
Zootopia

if you have 25 minutes to spare, the town called panic thing is completely heartwarming

aw i wanted to see the red turtle, maybe i will

Aw, nice to see a vote for Men and Chicken :) Rewatched it the other day, it's quite good.

Alfred, I take it from the long list you voted Being 17 @# 1?

I strongly suspect Your Name will place very highly next year. Perhaps top ten.

― Frederik B, Thursday, 9 March 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There might not be a world left to live in by then so..

My top ten:

American Honey
Eisenstein in Guanajuato
The Handmaiden
Standing Tall
Cosmos
Silence
I Am Not Your Negro
Cemetery of Splendor
Things to Come
Toni Erdmann

x-post: Somehow, perhaps involving time travel, we will find a way. Zen zen zense.

Thanks for doing this.

1. O.J. Simpson: Made in America
2. De Palma
3. Maggie’s Plan
4. Obit
5. American Honey
6. Manchester by the Sea
7. Sing Street
8. Mapplethorpe: Look at the Pictures
9. Moonlight
10. Christine
11. Arrival
12. Jackie
13. Nocturnal Animals
14. Paterson
15. Eat That Question: Frank Zappa in His Own Words
16. Silence
17. Don't Blink – Robert Frank
18. Wiener Dog
19. Mustang
20. Janis: Little Girl Blue

Not that it mattered, but I don't think the Obit or Robert Frank votes were counted. I would have included James Baldwin if I'd seen it in time.

Visit or Memories and Confessions (De Oliveira, 1982/2016)
No Home Movie (Akerman, 2015)
Camaraperson (Johnson, 2016)
Toni Erdmann (Ade, 2016)
I, Daniel Blake (Loach, 2016)
The Assassin (Hou, 2015)
Knight of Cups (Malick, 2016)
Things to Come (Hansen-løve, 2016)
Fire at Sea (Rosi, 2016)
Pearl Button (Guzman, 2015)
The Measure of Man (Brizé, 2015)
Histoire(s) Du Cinema (JLG, 1988 - 1998)
Julietta (Almodovar, 2016)
American Honey (Arnold, 2016)
Love and Friendship (Stillman, 2016)
El Sur (Erice, 1983)
Embrace of the Serpent (Guerra, 2015)
Victoria (Schipper, 2015)
Son of Saul (Nemes, 2016)
Sweet bean (Kawase, 2015)
The Sundial Carved with a Thousand Years of Notches — The Magino Village Story (Ogawa, 1985)
JLG/JLG: Self-Portrait in December (JLG, 1995)
King Lear (Brook, 1971)
One Sings, the Other Doesn't (Varda, 1977)
In the Realm of the Senses (Oshima, 1976)

thanks gukbe!

Cameraperson
Certain Women
I Am Not Your Negro
Moonlight
Everybody Wants Some!!
Aferim!
Paterson
Things to Come
The Love Witch
The Treasure
Love and Friendship
De Palma
Cemetery of Splendour
Manchester by the Sea
Toni Erdmann
Silence
Indignation
The Fits
Sully
Handmaiden
Kate Plays Christine

A Quiet Passion
Sieranevada
Cemetery of Splendour
The Assassin
Scarred Hearts
Toni Erdmann
Certain Women
In the Last Days of the City
Mimosas
A Lullaby to the Sorrowful Mystery
The Son of Joseph
The Ornithologist
Moonlight
The Death of Louis XIV
Nocturama
Jackie
Fire at Sea
Harmonium
The Woman Who Left
The Neon Demon
The Happiest Day in the Life of Olli Mäki
The United States of Love
Godless
The Untamed
The Last Family

Anomalisa
Toni Erdmann
American Honey
Embrace of the Serpent
Silence
Hunt For the Wilderpeople
Supersonic
Sing Street
The Invitation
Author: The JT LeRoy Story
The Neon Demon
Manchester by the Sea
Weiner
High Rise
The Witch
I Am Not A Serial Killer
A Bigger Splash
Remainder
Train to Busan
Green Room
Hell or High Water
10 cloverfield lane
Tale of tales
Hypernormalisation
Amanda Knox
Deadpool
Holy Hell