ilx is twitter now

Sorry if that's racist but it's just how I feel

— Jordie 🔵 (@BarstoolJordie) November 15, 2016

https://mobile.twitter.com/louisjagger/status/860242068794462208

@BarstoolJordie fp

— Louis Jagger (@louisjagger) May 4, 2017

Things used to be simple. You just tried to raise 'em right. Now—with social media—being a good grandparent means being a good brandparent. pic.twitter.com/3FtYTAgTe6

— Big NAFTA Jeb Lund (@Mobute) March 24, 2017

more like twitter is ilx now, rehashing all the discussions done better here

no, op is right, ilx has diminished itself by imitating social media, it's a tiny bit of a bummer but wcyd

imo both are right

Despacito #1 in the world. Thank you

— Justin Bieber (@justinbieber) April 24, 2017

the beauty of ilx and other traditional message boards is that there's not this in-built power imbalance where a conversation started by someone with a huge follower count, even if others are making more cogent points, is dominated by whoever can get boosted to the top by their popularity

the ilx hivemind has its own bad tendencies cultivated over the years and has alienated some great voices, though, so it's not an inherently superior form

BLOBY IS BALLS DEEP IN 2017

— Mr. Blobby (@WorstBlobby) January 1, 2017

i've been superseded by mr. blobby

mh you are right about that. but stylistically ilx has been very heavily impacted by twitter/the rise of social media. I mean note that this post ends now instead of 1000 words from now.

Forget May the Fourth. The only Fourth I care about is the Fourth of July. Independence Day, baby. Merica.

— Cloyd Rivers (@CloydRivers) May 4, 2017

agree 100%

wait geordie racer and i invented supershort ilx posts in 2001, only nitsuh was allowed to post at length

I guess that's why I never felt the need of twitter in my life.

How do we get @WorstBlobby a blue tick?

RIP big poppa

i just found out my uncle used to work for nintendo in the secret mario division when i was in grade 3.. i found his security card and gun

— volte (@vvvolte) September 22, 2015

on the other hand on olde ilx JCLC's post would be 1000 words to make the same point

pic.twitter.com/wcAp3ml8fD

— AMO AMO (@xxnx957) April 18, 2017

the ilx hivemind has its own bad tendencies cultivated over the years and has alienated some great voices, though, so it's not an inherently superior form

― a landlocked exclave (mh),

i didnt fp u for this but only cos its u man

The only criticism I have to make of you, if I may, is that you all want to appear too clever.

— Lacan sans contexte (@Lacan_nocontext) April 27, 2017

btw i akways liked jclcs thousand word posts. about cheese mainly iirc.

Jacques I feel like he who smelt it dealt it in this instance n'est-pas

beauty of ilx's format is that it can be twitter, irc, and a blog all on one dynamic platform

also I think tweet embeds are sometimes good and sometimes bad, can we make them have a smaller font somehow? they're very big

The clean format of ilx has ruined the rest of the internet for me. All of it looks cluttered and sickening.

Lightweight reporter Alex Pareene @pareene is known as a total joke in political circles. Hence, he writes for Loser Salon. @Salon

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 15, 2012

twitter doesn't have anybody like me on it

where you gonna go for the el tomBOT-oh?
twitter? aint no
facebook? aint no
etc.

Ty v mucho mr tomboto

Ed Balls

also I think tweet embeds are sometimes good and sometimes bad, can we make them have a smaller font somehow? they're very big

can we get them to embed in zing

Is that Pareene tweet real or.

Actually twitter is ilx.

#notallilx

Trayce, it has a link to twitter.com where you can view it's authenticity for yourself, if you can believe your eyes

@calummarsh my initial reaction to this pic.twitter.com/Kw0C31NqSv

— Matt Erspamer (@erspamer_matt) March 18, 2017

you can see who has you blocked (??) on twitter and not who has you blacklisted on ilx though

You are blocked from following @M4ttHelgeson and viewing @M4ttHelgeson's Tweets. Learn more

?!?

You can blacklist people on ilx? How?

browser scripts

I mean... why did site new answers tell me there's a new answer on this thread -- I don't see any?!

_also I think tweet embeds are sometimes good and sometimes bad, can we make them have a smaller font somehow? they're very big_

can we get them to embed in zing

Sorry, to clarify, they embed on the click thru but they look like a big mess before... can we get it to show something slicker, the same way [ b ] becomes * , etc

Lightweight reporter Alex Pareene @pareene is known as a total joke in political circles. Hence, he writes for Loser Salon. @Salon

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 15, 2012

Wait, is this tweet what Ally was referring to the other day? I thought it was about something new, but I couldn't find it.

How to Pronounce Poonit ↺RT❤ https://t.co/vJ6V7BqKsu #vagina #shakeeb #horney #chaki #ilxor #chakibi #goatfuckers #shag #

— DVPhilip (@DvPhilipgarcia) August 9, 2017

???

DVPhilip

Tweets
523K

Followers
23

thats quite a strike rate

What's up with all the ilxor hashtags on twtr?

im sorry for posting tweets

upload your twitter bitch I'm the topic
Profess it but
Gucci didn't graduate from college
Your girlfriend say's my ear rings are erotic
My lambo doors open upward they're robotic

otm

Dog Umbrella Dance pic.twitter.com/K3KUvO692g

— Nature is Amazing ☘️ (@AMAZlNGNATURE) October 7, 2017

Can we do an official poll to determine whether Twitter embeds should be banned forever? No socks plz, thx.

(I've been guilty of this myself fwiw, so don't @ me.)

The UK Politics thread would disappear down a sinkhole tbh.

Twitter embeds are useful for seeing inconsequential tweets from bad people that I wouldn't see otherwise

while I wouldn't complain about banning twitter my request for ILX is just that we can turn off auto-embedding of tweets.

turn off auto-embedding of tweets

This would satisfy me as well.

People complaining about twitter embeds < the embeds themselves, many of which are indeed muck. Depends if you think threads moving slower is good or not, or if you want to address that many comments don’t get addressed and we are often talking at or past each other though.

Would that mean we could still copy the text from the tweet and post it on here?

Also, use zing, are you all using desktop or mobile for this to be such a thing? I just see stuff as text links unless I click on a specific post.

Would that mean we could still copy the text from the tweet and post it on here?

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:00 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Screenshots pasted into a youtube video ftw

Would that mean we could still copy the text from the tweet and post it on here?

That's fine imho since I assume people wouldn't do so systematically.

xp lol LBI

Robbie Rotten with the face of Neil Warnock. pic.twitter.com/L6M1GECRL7

— Football Manager Hair on Politicians (@visualsatire) January 23, 2020

Robbie Rotten with the face of Neil Warnock

I have no idea who either of these people are so this is a perfect example of why dis-embedding would be good not bad.

I’m sorry you had to see that pom

for the uninitiated that eschew the low discourse of twitter, FMHoP is just simply the worst best account on it!

Depends if you think threads moving slower is good or not

I'd rather have slower threads with fewer but more thoughtful posts than drive-by tweets (that gather at best a few words of response). if the writer of that tweet wants an ilx response then there's nothing preventing her for posting here. otherwise they've chosen their platform and whatever "conversation" they want should unroll there.

same for the re-tweeters here: why not just talk about whatever you're tweeting about on twitter, and post your own thoughts here?

one of my life would be different if i'd ever been on ilxor

— dissonance ebooks (@diss1_ebooks) December 25, 2016

looking up ilxor.com to see if it's "all that".

— Chrystie Hill (@itgirl) April 4, 2007

xp as I’ve said before this is the only place I discuss politics, for various reasons I do not do so publicly on twitter & the fact is that huge amounts of UK political news/gossip/shitposting happens on there.

Looking up twitter.com to see if it's "all that".

:D

(that's actually the oldest ilxor mention on twitter!)

but then I’ve always advocated people posting what they’d like to see, so I can’t say I have ever had much sympathy for the “clearly seething but not really contributing” position.

I use twitter to bring info to discussions on here (half the time anyway, the rest are jokes). Sometimes they are threads, so embedding works to the good.

Seriously though, I think twitter-embeds are good not bad, and aside from D3nn1s P3rr1n popping up way too much, ilxors show a remarkable amount of restraint posting them, usually only for context or discussion.

Also, a seriously good ilx-feature is that the text of a tweet is kept even said tweet is deleted.

If The People want an off switch on the embeds, that's entirely fine by me.

It's not fine by me, it's an ok feature and Euler is talking about this almost as a way to police how people post.

u luv 2 see me tap the sign:

the way i see it, people who come on here and submit content that is not up to par, could possibly be considered the "Villains" of this site

— wint (@dril) September 16, 2016

pvmic

xp

All that's missing is a gratuitous reference to LJ.

Or Fred

Option to turn off embeds makes sense, it’s an extension of the existing option for images and it would make the complainers shut up (he said naively)

As a personal option that's better.

Yeah I think it would be the most elegant solution. Isn't that what Euler was suggesting in the first place? Unless I misread him.

new rule: only good posters are allowed to be issued a longform license, the bad ones will have to learn humility by being marched barefoot up to the mountains and down to twitter, during which period they can only post embeds with lol underneath!

I'm happy with the personal option. We already have killfile, but I only resort to that in the most annoying cases.

twitter is good at two things: a) breaking news and b) making its regular users' brains as silky smooth as a bowling ball

its primary use here on ilx, where we have multiple world politics threads active at any given time, is to provide a quick and easy way to share news and thus is a very valuable feature

ilx obviously provides its own very specific form of brain-polishing so twitter's secondary ability is less relevant here

also something something dennis perrin amirite

the END TO END BERNERS THREAD always now opens for me at NERDSOCK P posting a MICHAEL TRACEY tweet from feb 2019 promoting a pro-sanders piece he (MT) had written for THE FEDERALIST

as this somehow summarises all that's ghastly abt human cultural and political evolution since the mayan event in dec 2012 i would not wish things different

also we're not talking enough abt #WARNYMPH

i'm okay with that tbh

I have no idea who either of these people are so this is a perfect example of why dis-embedding would be good not bad.

Don't think taking away twitter embeds will do much on that front tbh, I've been baffled by references outside my georgraphic or cultural remit on ILX since 2003ish, integral part of the charm of the place.

I don’t even own a tv know who Dennis Perrin is so idg quite why he boils so much piss but it must be like one of those things you can’t stop noticing once you start

I know as much about Dennis Perrin as I do about gabbneb.

I'd be happy with a compromise solution where someone posting a tweet about news on the UK politics thread emits a pleasant floral scent, but attempting to post a Loki Belmont tweet administers an electric shock.

Loki is the one of the best news sources on UK politics rn so I'm megging a 1000 volt pulse right at AF for that lack of respect!

Lol what is do objectionable about Loki?

*so

be fine with auto embed if it didnt completely discombobulate threads opening on the last-read post, but unfortunately it does, and the page jumping all over while the embeds load is a real pain

the posting of the tweets themselves or otherwise wont solve any of the problems with the site rly

the "no images" option turns embedded tweets into a plain text version already but I guess there could be an even more tweet-suppressing option

I personally will campaign for an option, on by default, which replaces all ILX posts with tweets by @HourlyLynxes, best account on twitter

The UK politics thread is regularly now derailed by embeds of completely inconsequential people saying moronic things, and then you end up with several posts of people arguing with an individual who isn't even on the thread and never will be. It gives ILX the false impression of some hellscape where half the population is, I dunno Frances Weetman or whoever.

Clearly the only solution is to delete Twitter in its entirety.

oh how im tempted to fix that post matt

Twitter penetration must be low as the only twitter name I recognize from the above few posts is michael tracksuit

most of my politics tweets are twitter embeds lately, but sometimes people put something so neatly that it feels clumsy paraphrasing their good, concise thoughts in my poorly-thought-out verbose style (also dishonest, like someone might catch you - "hey that isn't your clever thought, you stole that off an actually clever person on twitter")

plus it is dangerous posting yr actual thoughts and opinions on the politics thread for fear of being inscrutably zinged, perhaps for having the wrong opinion or expressing an adequate opinion poorly or posting at the wrong moment and interfering with another ilxor's contemplation of what to have for dinner, so if you just repost other people's thoughts then you can claim "ah lol I just pasted that because it was so rongggg, imagine having that as yr honest opinion, how funny"

I have blocked so many but then just see their tweets on ILX anyway. Serves me right tho.

plus it is dangerous posting yr actual thoughts and opinions on the politics thread for fear of being inscrutably zinged, perhaps for having the wrong opinion or expressing an adequate opinion poorly or posting at the wrong moment and interfering with another ilxor's contemplation of what to have for dinner

Truly the safest of spaces.

maybe there could be another breakaway uk politics thread for people who hate twitter and love [political figure/journalist who is derided on the other rhread]?

The 'hey, get a look at this idiot' and 'dank memes 4 socialist teens' stuff is a curse on the UK left and should be discouraged but Twitter is still a useful jumping-off point for breaking news and has a place in the politics threads, imo. At this stage, it feels like we've discussed pretty much every substantive issue about eleven times, though, which probably contributes more to the lack of long-form posts than embeds do.

👀

That 'best news source on UK politics' in their full appearances UK politics thread: (my apologies to those avoiding the thread for a variety of reasons)

You talking about Nick Cohen Suzanne? https://t.co/sd3qp3ZPB7

— Loki Belmont (@Lokinash06) January 7, 2020

Tfw when a single mother from Wigan is behind bars for benefit fraud pic.twitter.com/3JIp8qugSh

— Loki Belmont (@Lokinash06) January 7, 2020

Labour members should stay in their place and never question Keir Starmer, yes his campaign is primarily run by members of the labour right and yes Keir's campaign is run from an accountancy firm linked to the paradise papers but members should just ignore that

— Loki Belmont (@Lokinash06) January 11, 2020

Mfw I'm thinking about paramilitaries to stop the Scottish pic.twitter.com/KI0e6tBu0z

— Loki Belmont (@Lokinash06) January 15, 2020

Tom why did you miss out RLB? Is this a campaign for Keir Starmer you do seem to be the vice chair of his constituency

— Loki Belmont (@Lokinash06) January 20, 2020

I've no idea what's going on but this might be worse than Michael Tracksuit

I started defaulting to ILX with images disabled for the sake of discreet workplace posting but it works a charm for twitter embeds, as well. A tweet shows up as unobtrusive quoted text which is readily identifiable as a tweet without being obnoxious in announcing itself. As such, I'm a proponent of embeds because I do see the occasional diamond among the dung which I almost certainly wouldn't have been bothered to click through and read.

twitter is good at two things: a) breaking news and b) making its regular users' brains as silky smooth as a bowling ball

... breaking news which turns out to be garbage 30 seconds later.

ship has sailed but ftr the insufferable torrent of unprocessed sewage that is the politics thread definitely puts some ppl off making long posts or indeed bothering w ilx at all

Please give Mr. Glass my condolences.

hi ogmor, I have been worrying that my slightly obnoxious posting @ u ft. uncalled-for jay rayner comparison has contributed to ur recent absence, if so pls accept my sincere apologies and let us try to brook some kind of entente 😭

I am just out of a meeting so haven’t read back everything but how many of these problems could be solved by people using zing

I mean, seriously.

I might use it if I knew what it was.

maybe there could be another breakaway uk politics thread for people who hate twitter and love [political figure/journalist who is derided on the other rhread]?

xp I feel like you clearly like me calling you a granddad? But it’s the ilx app, granddad

insofar as loki b tried to move a #metoo-related story from very longrunning rumour-scandal among in-the-know media circles to actual public open conversation where it belongs -- and was legally stepped on for this (in my view) courageous attempt -- i do tend to #standwithhim on the general gawker-form muckraking principle: the raising of the stink (and the tone of the raising) may offend yr high-minded and pretty sensibilities but you'll fkn miss it when it's gone

im ok with tweets as-is but still kinda amazed @ the idea that "twitter is a good source of breaking news" persists in 2020

xp I feel like you clearly like me calling you a granddad? But it’s the ilx app, granddad

Never knew such a thing existed. Maybe it was launched on Board 77?

Separate options for showing images and Twitter embeds is the best solution.

Personally, I'm in favour just to reduce the temptation to click on the links and wind up in some Twitter rabbithole, but that's me.

Like this is my ilx experience, I only get annoyed by things like people’s behaviour and not the sea of leftist filth some feel they’re drowning in.
https://i.postimg.cc/x1J6Zwpq/AB02-EA62-4-CC5-4029-AC5-E-25-C78-D19-E0-AB.jpg

Have no idea what comrade accelerationist is linking, not particularly minded to click and find out, simply continue scrolling.

Btw Tom seachtó is a seacht contains the single best ilx thread, the one where we post pictures of our cats.

wtf @ light mode

I thought the same thing

new.css template with images off is the closest I could get to making this place resemble a mid-'90s X-Files newsgroup but close will have to be enough, I suppose.

AF I am not really getting what's so awful about it. Were every single of those Loki tweets ever posted on ilx? His stuff on NC is not unimportant for reasons mark s states (I'd add that if a prominent journo whose pieces are often mentioned on ilx is behaving like this then you can see the merit of it? Especially in the way he writes about the issue of anti-Semitism by framing it in a highly moral way that I've seen him doing).

He has dug out some dodgy stuff that Jess Phillips was up to in terms of campaign contributions (?)

I mean you like Marie Le Conte. Give me one useful contribution she has made?

Light mode works very well if you are trying to make ilx look relatively boring and innocuous on your phone screen, fwiw

I never even think about the different templates and methods of viewing employed by various ILXors and the psychological impact thereof. Like what if it's just a discordant color scheme that makes some people aggro, makes u think.

light mode cru UNITE

dark modes make my eyes go weird

Lol @ imago's sewage as "slightly obnoxious", light mode posting!

How many clusterfucks could have been avoided if everyone was on naus.css?

belatedly agreeing with mark s

afaict this is actually about
• having a couple of posters on politics threads missing from peoples’ killfiles and/or
• not having Zing (or Flagging) as your main means of experiencing ILX or
• insisting on leaving images on by default, which seems crazy even if you only ILX from home

So there doesn’t appear to be much of a need for a poll to end embedded tweets. Just employ any of the existing options.

tweets are fine and lovely on flagging imo

some of the more precious posters (who we are very lucky to have gracing our presence tbf) shouldn't always assume just because a load of embeds of lefty sewage they consider beneath their contempt have buried their "post of the week" that nobody has read it.

I don't like browsing ILX on my phone. Too cramped, too much of a pain to type anything remotely coherent.

(granddad)

my eyesight is not good, but at least with flagging you can click on a post and enlarge it.

ship has sailed but ftr the insufferable torrent of unprocessed sewage that is the politics thread definitely puts some ppl off making long posts or indeed bothering w ilx at all

― ogmor, Thursday, 23 January 2020 bookmarkflaglink

idk really I think ilx is still a relatively calm place for making thoughtful posts but that thread is very much a rolling thread. I don't really see how twitter has further degraded these dynamics. I am more concious not to post very in left twitter shit.

It is ilx tradition to say that thoughtful posts/threads get ignored but it's also true that what you give in time and effort to make the post also needs same from the group reading the content.

I still think it's possible to get something good out of the place. Just that time to think something out every now and then.

How many clusterfucks could have been avoided if everyone was on naus.css?

― jmm, Thursday, January 23, 2020 7:50 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Just briefly sampled this one out of curiosity. I guess I lost a little time because I suddenly find myself drenched in the blood of my freshly-slaughtered coworkers. Thanks a lot, pal.

Were every single of those Loki tweets ever posted on ilx?

Yes, they're the entirety of his tweets that have been posted to the current UK politics thread (I only checked that one, my impression is that he's not really come up before, at least by that name).

It's a fair point that Loki's one good tweet has been removed from the thread, and a role as Hannibal Buress is not a bad one - but no-ones posting any other daring muckracking from him, just the same pointless shite.

Light mode works very well if you are trying to make ilx look relatively boring and innocuous on your phone screen, fwiw

'on your phone screen' is my problem here (though I'm aware not everyone's) - a page with text and words and such looks 100% less suss than visibly peering at my phone in work.

I do look at some threads in incognito mode, which does the embedding pretty well - but that, like phone browser, like I understand zing has the issue where it'll show you the text of the tweet but not any embedded one, which has led people including myself to miss context with hilarious results.

I mean you like Marie Le Conte. Give me one useful contribution she has made?

I don't post tweets by her in the threads, as part of the truce that prevents the posting of wariotifo and Eusebio and only exists in my head.

Wait - who is Eusebio in this context?

Did you read the outrageous comment from Nandy on Scottish nationalism Loki is responding to? And one of the other tweets is concerned with Starmer's top comms man running dirty ads that make nonsense of Starmer's talk of less factionalism. It is interesting stuff if you are interested in the direction Labour are going to take after this leadership election.

i've got to admit - and no troll intended - but i'm still not getting what the objections are to embedded Tweets

/no Tom D.

people post bad tweets

Following that logic we should disable posts altogether.

I mean, primarily my own posts, but still.

mods, i stand with old lunch, please disable his posts #solidarity

this!

be fine with auto embed if it didnt completely discombobulate threads opening on the last-read post, but unfortunately it does, and the page jumping all over while the embeds load is a real pain

this is my objection to embedded tweets

also lol at "just use zing", I'm not buying a fucking iPhone just to read ILX, wtf!

i've got to admit - and no troll intended - but i'm still not getting what the objections are to embedded Tweets

Did you read the outrageous comment from Nandy on Scottish nationalism Loki is responding to? And one of the other tweets is concerned with Starmer's top comms man running dirty ads that make nonsense of Starmer's talk of less factionalism. It is interesting stuff if you are interested in the direction Labour are going to take after this leadership election.

Then post the actual fucking news, the interesting part, not this snarky shit!

People seeing stuff they think is a waste of time

god forbid we waste the time of *checks notes* people posting on ilxor dot com

👊 CP

i think it's interesting that the worst offender in this thread is making this a referendum on how useful discussion is on ilx

xxxp

yes "the news" indeed Andrew, that most reliable source of political reportage!

there is still plenty of space for a thread of the kind of parlour room style chit-chat some of youse seem to desire. It's very easy to start a no hoi polloi/twitter embeds politics thread, it's even easier than starting a new centrist party!

Weird take tbh.

i've got to admit - and no troll intended - but i'm still not getting what the objections are to embedded Tweets

People seeing stuff they think is a waste of time

― steer karma (gyac), Thursday, January 23, 2020 9:02 AM (fifty-one seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

Serious q: are there ILXors who lack the ability to selectively read posts that are of interest to them and abandon/scroll past those that are not? Because, yeah, I can see where that might be a legit waste of one's time.

Wait - who is Eusebio in this context?

I have almost certainly got his name wrong - the fellow who was hilariously creating fake articles under real bylines - I think he's also groovyguyzone, who I see won't actually be bothering Twitter for a while.

"Yes, they're the entirety of his tweets that have been posted to the current UK politics thread (I only checked that one, my impression is that he's not really come up before, at least by that name)."

They have been spaced over a period of time I mean I don't see his stuff that often. I think what ppl object to are the number of twitter embeds not that they come from a particular twitter poster.

I think that there's an argument that the sheer amount of NOISE and wasted energy and pointless beefing on Twitter is just exhausting and depressing and the more purposeful noise and wasted energy and beefing we do here is something of a refuge from that. I have some sympathy with that tbh.

the thing with Twitter embeds is that during heightened times of national anxiety in the Trump politics threads, especially in the early years of his Presidency, during busy days at work, it helped that I could get bite-sized "latest development" tweets when I didn't have time to read 50-60 posts, and wanted to avoid Chris Cilliza takes on CNN.

however if someone wanted to pay me a nice stipend and get me some perks, I may be swayed into lobbying against tweet embeds.

all Ilxors will raise your taxes. the difference is I told you I would.

i do T embeds bcz i am not 2006 vintage nabisco, i am not going to compose 500-word posts for this joint

xp this is a fair point and maybe we would benefit from a general shitposting thread (unless people started beefing about that being updated more often than serious threads).

i just skip over the stuff like "hey here's something Perrin oozed out of his bacteria cavern"

yes "the news" indeed Andrew, that most reliable source of political reportage!

Man, I don't actually mean "If it's not being shown on the 9 O'Clock news then it's not happening", but considering that someone had displayed a link to Lisa Nandy bigging up Catalonia on Andrew Neil, I'm not sure what Loki was bringing to the table here.

*the treatment of Catalonia

fair enough point Andrew.

I think you've been getting radge about this stuff much longer than anyone else on this thread ftr!

i donated £3.60 to Loki because I thought some of his investigative stuff is important, even though Vice ran another piece that revealed a further layer of rotten onion around the JP project (namely the stuff about "affordable housing" quotas involved with the property developer whose pocket she is in). But even though it was a tiny amount of money it's more than I'll ever give to the Graun.

i still dont know what a shitpost is

unless they all are

Also did not mean to come across “get an iPhone plebes”, but flagging is the android app, I just called it zing in the manner you’d call a vacuum cleaner a hoover or w/e.

xp shitposting is like when you post the news that Terry Jones has died in the form of a completely unremarkable Dennis Perrin tweet the day after people were getting annoyed at you for posting too many Dennis Perrin tweets.

to be clear, I didn't mind, even found it slightly funny

I have some extremely melty views on Rage as formed by the medium of Twitter if you ever feel your piss is insufficiently boiled, calzino!

And of course I genuinely like pretty much everyone on the thread, and we have far more in common than divides us etc etc.

It isn't about what we have in common though

a level of civility between ourselves is good and to be encouraged/worked on but i think expecting us to be civil to third parties or to avoid rhetorical (pointless) radge is a bit beyond the possible

As much as the pushback on this issue makes some sense, I would hope the fact that many posters are anti-tweets, have expressed their hatred of twitter in general, have identified specific accounts they are weary of seeing on ilx, etc., might prompt pro-twitter posters to consider whether they need to post quite so many tweets. Maybe like a 5% reduction would be a kind gesture to your ilxor chums. If you come here because you hate us all and like pissing people off, I guess fp-ing might be a better solution than asking for a new user feature.

For one thing, and nashwan made a similar point earlier, I have less control over what tweets I see on ilx than I do on twitter, which can be galling (e.g., when someone posts a Trump tweet, which I can't help but have a reaction to).

I kinda loathe twitter as a medium and social media in general but don't generally mind the tweet embeds of ILXors given to careful curation and often appreciate that they share things here that I otherwise would've never seen.

my position is also that twitter embeds are fine, but there's a proxy war concerning the politics threads which is almost a parallel issue

just to reiterate, it's not the tweets themselves that annoy me, it's that embedding tweets fucks up the page scrolling to #unread. if it just showed the text of the tweets and didn't mess up the page that would be fine with me. or if whatever is fucking up #unread was fixed that would also work

I have never got on w/ 'real' Twitter so I appreciate people giving me a digest-like version of it here. It's enough.

Have no beef w/ Morbs but Perrin and that godawful Nixon account seem like very poor representations of his own, more bracing opinions.

Honestly what is the Dennis Perrin thing/who is Dennis Perrin, is there really so much discussion over an account with 1k followers?

there's a proxy war concerning the politics threads which is almost a parallel issue

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imago otm there kinda

(assuming i understand him) (i.e assuming he's said what i believe except in a weird way)

There should be a thread for Dennis Perrin deets.

I think that there's an argument that the sheer amount of NOISE and wasted energy and pointless beefing on Twitter is just exhausting and depressing and the more purposeful noise and wasted energy and beefing we do here is something of a refuge from that. I have some sympathy with that tbh.

Another thing that might just be me but run it up the flagpole anyway, is ILX twitter users posting stuff from some complete fucking nonentity who, for some reason, is some sort of twitter celebrity and somehow expecting non-twitter users to know who the person is and be familiar with their shtick. Admittedly there was an election on at the time so things were getting a little feverish, but I literally had to stop and ask several times if the person being re-tweeted was being serious or was some sort of ho-ho twitter parodist - not helped by the fact that 99% of twitter parodies are as funny as tooth extraction.

^^^^^^

this is becoming a bit of a multifaceted issue

rly just need for tweets not to mess up "unread" answers thks

I think when someone puts a tweet like that is to show how some people are thinking about something. It probably needs a robust post of your own to set it in context so I am sure if you aren't on twitter it's alienating but it is politics, it's usually aligned to what the issue of the day might be, and in a fast moving day it can be difficult to do. XP to Tom D

"completely unremarkable" nu board name

Put me down as being in favor of keeping Twitter embeds. I think they are a great way to get key information or links on here quickly. Yes, they are sometimes abused, but are more often not.

If I post a Tweet from some unknown person, it's probably because there is some information to share, and probably has little to do with the actual person who tweeted. There's a good chance that I don't know who they are either, and I would never expect anyone on here to be familiar with random Twitter personalities.

Pretty sure Dr. Morbius is the only person on here posting Dennis Perrin or similar tweets, and most everyone else doesn't care. It's part of the Morbs brand.

I think when someone puts a tweet like that is to show how some people are thinking about something. It probably needs a robust post of your own to set it in context so I am sure if you aren't on twitter it's alienating but it is politics, it's usually aligned to what the issue of the day might be, and in a fast moving day it can be difficult to do. XP to Tom D

The way Twitter embeds look on the iPhone is EXACTLY how it should be done on Desktop and would solve a lot of these problems: just a nice mildly unobtrusive blue quote box. ILX programmer dude, get on that. And while you’re at it, maybe fix the error I always get when I try to remove a Bookmark on my iPhone.

i think it should be possible to turn off twitter embeds and convert them to just a url link to the tweet in the same way as turning off youtube embeds works on here

^^ this, please

whichever .css I use, or possibly one of the anti-tracking plugins I use, already converts all twitter embeds to plain text, so everyone complaining should just set their browser preferences more sensibly

(personally I’d rather see the embeds, but my browser has no problem jumping to unread messages, so I’m happy to know I’m getting a tradeoff)

I just gave my monitor a swift kick and now instead of twitter embeds I'm just seeing an array of flickering green lines. So that's another quick fix if you want to give it a go.

I ate a live duck

THE FIRST THING I ATE WAS CLOACA TODAY

It depends on the tweet I think. 'This guy's done a thread on the effects of this policy' is obviously worth posting. 'Lol did Michael Gove just shit his pants in the Commons?' even more so. Some failed Labour candidate laying into the leadership in a way we've seen a million times before really isn't.

Sure, but someone laying into the failed Leadership candidate isn't either - I have full faith that we can produce this content locally and at a higher quality.

As someone who despises about 80% of the MPs from the political party I'm a member of. Sometimes I will favour anger and hatred over quality. But the austerity policies they helped through parliament did almost kill me twice so I will continue despising them until they die!

Obv sometimes a bit of chill is required but I don't think I'm only one on here that genuinely despairs at these fuckers grasping back control of the party and the commentary on it from nominally *left * media.

Tldr start a melt thread!

Whats your favorite kind of sandwich?

One of the nice things about Twitter embeds is context for links. And I don't even mean the Twitter user's commentary, but the link preview that shows the headline and image. Especially on a phone, it's easier to post a tweet that displays all of that information than to drop a URL and then have to describe what it is.

^ that I don't see this on either browser or zing is one reason that I usually endeavour to describe what I'm linking

i think it should be possible to turn off twitter embeds and convert them to just a url link to the tweet in the same way as turning off youtube embeds works on here

The way Twitter embeds look on the iPhone is EXACTLY how it should be done on Desktop and would solve a lot of these problems: just a nice mildly unobtrusive blue quote box. ILX programmer dude, get on that. And while you’re at it, maybe fix the error I always get when I try to remove a Bookmark on my iPhone.

lol <3

I hate the tweets on ilx but I just scroll past like I am humoring a dad who sent me an unsolicited blooper video.

most of them are just confusing that someone felt a need to curate it for another audience.

Oh, ILX programmer dude? I'm bored. Entertain me with this banana.

has anyone figured out mr. blobby's relation to 2020 yet

lol if we got rid of embeds there'd be a bunch of posts like "Someone on twitter said..."

yes that happened all of the time before twitter embeds

ilxors against quotation, want authentic posts in message board rockist shockah