the flat earth society is meeting here todayyyyyyyyyyyy

lol...these guys

https://www.indy100.com/article/flat-earth-conspiracy-theorist-spirit-level-plane-prove-curvature-7746121

see the best way to prove the earth is flat with a level would be staying on the ground and placing the level on every possible point on the ground to make sure it is flat

I don't have the data to back it up, but I feel like the overlap between flat earthers and Darwin award winners is pretty sizable.

He appears to have literally no idea how gravity works/what it is.

xxp no no no the best way is to get a really really long level

Loving that he took a photo of the spirit level with in the background his iPhone - which has a spirit level.

Though I'm sure it's a commonplace with him that technology is corrupt, only trust the pure bubble.

"Now we take the fight to the enemy"

More like twat earth society amirite

On another music forum I have frequented since its creation in 1999, there was a longtime member who I got on with fairly well. We had similar tastes and his attempts at making original music initially inspired my own. We never really interacted outside of the forum, but he always struck me as a very level-headed, nice guy. He did, and far as I know, still does smoke a lot of marijuana. This no doubt had an impact on his easy going nature, but probably also contributes to his, uhh, "ideas."

A month or so ago, there was a post in the off-topic forum basically poking fun at flat earthers.

In comes this guy to basically confess to being one of them. It was a shitshow of dog piling on him and him validating every reply with his own reply. Just embarrassing.

So, I guess it goes to show that even the nicest and most genuine people can be absolute morons.

I love this though

https://www.indy100.com/article/australia-doesnt-exist-hoax-shelley-floryd-facebook-viral-funny-7647391

Okay, that is especially hilarious because the dude I was talking about in my previous post is Australian.

. . .or is he?????

http://io9.gizmodo.com/hugh-jackman-didnt-know-wolverines-were-real-animals-un-1795397482

Here's a good headline to counter:

Austin Didn't Know Australians Were Real Robots Until After He Started Reading The Internet

Did the actor playing Hugh Jackman know Australians weren't real before he began playing one?

Now you're just being silly.

Of course he did.

Oh my god, this was in the related stuff on that Indy 100 link:

https://www.indy100.com/article/flat-earth-conspiracy-theorist-spirit-level-plane-prove-curvature-7746121

Fucking excellent.

I must admi t I'm not quite sure what motivates these folk s

Quest for truth iirc

everybody wants to feel special

mainly it's the belief that the earth is flat iirc

Is it tied in some way to the bible or Yesus?

wikipedia sez at least partially:

Modern flat Earth hypotheses originated with the English writer Samuel Rowbotham (1816–1884). Based on conclusions derived from the Bedford Level experiment, Rowbotham published a pamphlet Zetetic Astronomy, which he later expanded into a book Earth Not a Globe, proposing the Earth is a flat disc centered at the North Pole and bounded along its southern edge by a wall of ice, Antarctica, with the Sun and Moon 3,000 miles (4,800 km) and the "cosmos" 3,100 miles (5,000 km) above Earth.[7] He also published a leaflet titled "The inconsistency of Modern Astronomy and its Opposition to the Scriptures!!", which argued that the "Bible, alongside our senses, supported the idea that the earth was flat and immovable and this essential truth should not be set aside for a system based solely on human conjecture"[8] (see Biblical inerrancy).

Rowbotham and followers like William Carpenter gained attention by successful use of pseudoscience in public debates with leading scientists such as Alfred Russel Wallace.[9][10][11] Rowbotham created a Zetetic Society in England and New York, shipping over a thousand copies of Zetetic Astronomy.[12]

After Rowbotham's death, Lady Elizabeth Blount established a Universal Zetetic Society, whose objective was "the propagation of knowledge related to Natural Cosmogony in confirmation of the Holy Scriptures, based on practical scientific investigation". The society published a magazine, The Earth Not a Globe Review, and remained active well into the early 20th century.[13] A flat Earth journal, Earth: a Monthly Magazine of Sense and Science, was published between 1901–1904, edited by Lady Blount.[14]

flat earthers, hollow earthers, sun-orbits-around-the-earthers, i love 'em all

how could i forget young-earthers

Is it tied in some way to the bible

not really, i am reading 12th century Biblical commentary and even in that they are lolling at flat Earthers too

There was an idea that the Earth must be flat or the water wouldn't flow to California.

Found it odd that my Philosophy lecturer in turn found it odd that there would be an idea that the earth might be flat before shown to be otherwise. You need an awareness of distance to come up with parallax and other proofs don't you. If you're going by sight as far as you can see stops before you register curvature.

Though the idea of a round globe heavily predates Columbus, contrary to what you hear in Primary school.

Australia takes its name from the idea of a counterweight continent to balance out the great landmass in the north dunnit? Not sure when the idea of Terra Australis first appeared though.

There was an idea that the Earth must be flat or the water wouldn't flow to California.

https://media.tenor.com/images/fb3f2d1e814190100a4ae401b1660d5b/tenor.gif

I mean if you say to them" ok maybe the earth is flat" so what? what happens next? teh rapture?

just wondering what is keeping flat Earthers from embracing other antiquated worldviews. like you would think there would be a revival of Galenic/Humoral medicine. "fuck big pharma, they are hiding the truth about black bile"

antivaxxers aren't too far off that level of delusion really

Columbus miscalculation was based on an underestimation of how wide the circuumference of the earth was which i think was based on a Ptolemaic calculation.
I don't think people trusted massive ocean voyaging though Columbus is supposed to have followed in the wake of a cod fishery fleet. I think the discovery of the New World had a lot to do with fishing. First long term European settlements had to do with providing shelter for fishermem then provided shelter for people fleeing Europe.

& of course the Vikings had been out that way way before him, as had the Malians and the Chinese.

I just fell like asking"what is below flat earth? eternal dirt?

so gravity is not a force towards the centre of massive objects its just a "down" force?

dude the earth is round but we are on the inside surface, plz keep up

or actually down

I got told that there was thought to be a force called gravity in philosophical thought way before Newton defined it. So could be a pre-Newtonian idea of the concept.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes

mid third century BC, calculated the circumference of the Earth to within a few percentage points of error

THE MOON IS A POTATO

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBneRdJVoAAs118?format=jpg&name=large

o shit

I heard about that Egyptian dude on a r4 program once, pretty astonishing work was that.

Could this be the secret of the Freemasons!?!

my father-in-law's a mason and i'll be seeing him this weekend - i'll press him for details and let u know

http://i65.tinypic.com/28ipbes.png

'is knowledge truth?'

makes u think

the fully costed masons

I was thinking earlier today of how airline routes prove a globe-shaped earth only to find out that there are MULTIPLE sites devoted to showing that they demonstrate a flat earth.

https://aplanetruth.info/2016/12/03/commercial-air-flights-on-a-flat-earth-work-perfectly/comment-page-1/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNVgzk3tbl0

"20,000 volts running through it"

my problem with all these flat earth conspiracy videos is that they're all like 20 minutes long, c'mon, give me the good stuff in two minutes like the illuminati folks do

not that surprising that flat earthers aren't keeping up with the times, tbf

the sun just goes around in a circle above flat earth? what the f holds it in place?

duct tape iirc

wait they also think the sun orbits the earth?

Unfortunately it looks like RT has deleted the much-mocked op ed Sam Gerrans did for them last month suggesting that a round Earth is hoax / conspiracy.

da plane pour moi

The earth is indeed flat, dull, stale, boring, lifeless...

what the f holds it in place?

gravity/centrifugal force/big bang/celestial spheres take your pick of terminology

So do they think that all planets are flat or just Earth? Or do they not believe in any other celestrial bodies, do they indeed think that 'stars' are in fact stars as in the five pointed shapes?

I think they think the universe is a dome above flat earth

also unclear on what exactly the motives of the perpetrators of this hoax are

this guy's channel is ummmm pretty good. this one's got some ASMR vibes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIRjxQIYOj4

Its like if Neil Breen had an idea about what the universe is like

lol

I want to gain the confidence of some flat earthers and string them along for a long time before I'm all like, guys guys...what if the earth is actually mildly convex? Best to start slow, don't want to blow their minds all at once.

i am enjoying this chaos ballet

God, that YouTube about the plane flights. The dude says, flat out, "I don't think this flight exists" in two different scenarios. So, they're just, like, listing it on the site to keep the "conspiracy" going?

I love this graphic in all it 'do you see' glory.

https://planetruthblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/fe-air-map-5.png

The lack of demand for flights from Hobart to Buenos Aires is clear proof that true world is flat.

Incidentally they just launched a Melbourne to Santiago flight that comes awfully close to crossing the Antarctic. I wish there were one that went all the way to BA because flinching iver he South Pole would be so awesome.

This twitter UI update is great pic.twitter.com/KOhzzRNTpl

— Krystal (@krystalbepsi) June 16, 2017

Yeah Ive seen that "these routes dont happen so thats proof!" claims before. Which were immediately shot down (er pardon the phrasing) by a pilot who flies AU-Sth america all the time.

Also for some reason, Brian Cox seems to attract a lot of these nutters?

I spoke with my friend last night and he revealed he thought the flat earthers made some good points. I asked him if he was kidding. He's not and of course he's a Trump supporter.

The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle and the earth is at least moderately flat.

the earth is flying saucer shaped, and flying saucer sightings are caused by atmospheric anomalies producing a complex mirage

if the earth wasn't flat, how come cars drive off cliffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkO3qRD2GZQ

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/25/us/b-o-b-flat-earth-gofundme-trnd/index.html

The cities in the background are approx. 16miles apart... where is the curve ? please explain this pic.twitter.com/YCJVBdOWX7

— B.o.B (@bobatl) January 25, 2016

Met my first bonafide Flat-Earther yesterday and he was British. It was kinda lol but mostly sad.

https://pics.me.me/where-is-the-curve-research-flat-death-star-28182361.png

http://wspa.com/2017/11/09/flat-earthers-from-around-the-world-descend-upon-nc-for-convention/

quality headline

This man is about to launch himself in his homemade rocket to prove the Earth is flat

“I don’t believe in science,” said Hughes, whose main sponsor for the rocket is Research Flat Earth. “I know about aerodynamics and fluid dynamics and how things move through the air, about the certain size of rocket nozzles, and thrust. But that’s not science, that’s just a formula. There’s no difference between science and science fiction.”

Dunning-Kruger

nothing scientific about doing an experiment that proves a hypothesis

may offer some evidence towards natural selection

this is all so purely in the realm of not even wrong

Hughes only recently converted to flat-Eartherism, after struggling for months to raise funds for his follow-up flight over the Mojave.

i doubt his commitment to this cause.

I don't have the data to back it up, but I feel like the overlap between flat earthers and Darwin award winners is pretty sizable.

― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Sunday, 21 May 2017 17:23 (six months ago)

It's rare to read a pre-obituary. Godspeed, dude who's about to smear himself across the Mojave.

But that’s not science, that’s just a formula.

Does this person know what the word science means?

*trying not to mention Trump*

one of my 10th grade chemistry students just told me he's a flat earther

i asked him why, he said "because it looks flat to me"

i asked him about all of the evidence for a round earth (including photos from space) and his response was "that's just shit adults tell me, and most shit adults tell me is bullshit"

hard to argue with that

the argument is that "most" doesn't equate to "all"

ask him what thinks is on the other side of the flat earth. also what happens to planes when they fly to the edge of earth.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/71/53/db/7153db148076be56ad4f9d7ab1230acd--poster-ads-strip.jpg

It's a ridic position because this isn't even something so complex that you just have to take experts at their word about it. It's pretty easy to follow along step-by-step the logical path that leads to "Earth is a sphere", and there's numerous paths which lead to it. They're just too lazy to do it themselves.

internet flat earth people are insane cultists. there's no other explanation.
the amount of stuff they don't believe is real is baffling.

It's an infantile response to an uncertain, confusing world. "These 'adults'* don't have a 100% spotless record of telling me the truth about stuff, so therefore I will assume EVERYTHING they tell me is wrong googoogaga". You see the same thing with people post-2016 election going "well it's a poll and the prez election polls were wrong so therefore I totally dismiss it"
*for actual adults saying this, swap in "experts" or "scientists"

I had a conversation with one of these dopes where when confronted with the extremely obvious contradictions and fallacies in their 'theory' they then explained "well actually we're living inside an artificially generated construct so how could we really know, makes u think, etc".

this is a thread I never expected to get to 100 posts. makes me kinda depressed :/

yeah in some way I think this particular flashpoint is really symbolic of the current in-vogue strain of know-nothingism

they even made fun of flat-earthers in Encyclopedia Brown ffs

Was just checking to see how spectacular Mike Hughes's entrance to Valhalla was. Psssh. What a tease. But at least the update has some choice pull quotes.

His project has cost him $20,000, which includes Rust-Oleum paint to fancy it up and a motor home he bought on Craigslist that he converted into a ramp.

"My feeling is that one of the top executives at the Bureau of Land Management called Needles, California, saying ... 'What's going on? Who permitted this?'" Hughes said.

Plus, as he and his team were preparing to leave Wednesday, the motorhome/rocket launcher broke down in his driveway, he said.

just fell down a youtube rabbit hole on some local flat earthers' videos. basically, all of their questions can be answered by gravity. which they deny the existence of, of course

feel like i should give my 2 cents as a physics educator

what's funny is that some of these people actually are science-ing and doing good experiments, the problem is they're not proving what they think they're proving. they're just proving a basic assumption in physics - that a small enough piece of a large enough curve can be accurately approximated by a flat surface. similarly you could misuse erathosthenes' experiment to disprove the curvature of the earth (really you'd just be proving the assumption that at a big enough distance from the source, light rays are assumed to travel parallel to each other).

while it's kind of cool i guess that people are attempting to think scientifically the distrust of "book learning" is really sad. i feel like a lot of these people haven't done the basic research and just aren't aware of really simple proofs, like, say, eratosthenes' experiment. also even though they're exercising scientific thinking they're pretty bad at it, cf just not understanding what they're proving or disproving

hmmm...that might be true, but does any of that matter if we're living in a computer solution? just sayin

dude it is precisely by spotting and noting such inconsistencies in the programming of the matrix that we can bring the whole facade crashing down

he should have tried flying to tucson, arizona - well-established experiment for testing whether we are living in a computer simulation

lol tlg

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https://imgur.com/gallery/NyVfb

How could he know the lengths of the shadows at exactly the same time though?

Eratosthenes heard about a famous well in the Egyptian city of Swenet (Syene in Greek, and now known as Aswan), on the Nile River. At noon one day each year — the summer solstice (between June 20 and June 22) — the Sun’s rays shone straight down into the deep pit.
...
Eratosthenes erected a pole in Alexandria, and on the summer solstice he observed that it cast a shadow, proving that the Sun was not directly overhead but slightly south.

first paragraph should be

Eratosthenes heard about a famous well in the Egyptian city of Swenet (Syene in Greek, and now known as Aswan), on the Nile River. At noon one day each year — the summer solstice (between June 20 and June 22) — the Sun’s rays shone straight down into the deep pit. They illuminated only the water at the bottom, not the sides of the well as on other days, proving that the Sun was directly overhead.

But how does he know exactly when noon is? Would that be using the shadows to prove the shadow lengths?

and just who IS this eratosthenes, anyway?

More like error-tosthenes, amirite?

He knows that on one day (Summer solstice, which civilisations have always been very good at noting and marking) there is no shadow at Syene, and some shadow the whole day at Alexandria - the shortest shadow will be the point at which the sun will be closest to being overhead.

https://imgur.com/gallery/BxA9T

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYQiHLhX0AIN0al.jpg:large

same tbh

he looks pretty happy about it. Blissful ignorance I suppose.

https://www.indy100.com/article/flat-earthers-reality-show-joke-7959556

(xps) insert 'blue balls' joek here...

email correspondence posted on guardian writer dawn foster's twitter account:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYfR_epWAAAQTZM.jpg

"the suez canal is 100 miles long and there are no locks" is i think my favourite

https://www.flatearthconventionuk.co.uk/

3 day convention coming up in Birmingham, with talks by many "high educated heliocentric believers". Quotes from Tesla, Socrates and Neil deGrasse Tyson on the site!

The reality TV idea is fun, but I'm afraid that the participants will either be so suspicious of anyone involved that they would think they were being tricked whatever they were shown, or (and I reckon this is at least 80% of flat earthers) trolling.

"the suez canal is 100 miles long and there are no locks" is i think my favourite

The Standedge Tunnel is the longest, deepest and highest canal tunnel in Britain. It is 5,500 yards (5,000 m) long, 636 feet (194 m) underground at its deepest point, and 643 feet (196 m) above sea level.

I have been through this, it is deep and high at the same time, this might be confusing to Flat Earthers.

Flat Earthers not Ike and Tina fans, then?

I'm more curious about Tina's take on Sir John Ramsden's very narrow canal!

https://noizetv.vhx.tv/mad-mike-hughes-the-launch-or-non-launch/season:3/videos/to-the-world-the-end-the-begining

They still haven’t been able to get us a picture of the whole earth in one pic. I’m skeptical on space at all. Over 50 years later and still no actual proof that we’ve been out of low earth orbit

— jerry mcgregor (@benchmarksr) November 19, 2018

unrelated to flat earth, but i also like this idea:

You should be asking that on a street, not at a place where around 100% will say they're ready.

— SecretAngel (@SecretAngelOp) November 19, 2018

(in response to the tweet "Raise if your hand if you're ready for humanity to wake up and start becoming a galactic civilization.")

yeah, take to the streets to ask everyone if they're ready to start becoming a galactic civilization! that's where such ideas are taken very very seriously

I have never seen the back of my own head with my own eyes, whose to say its there at all, I am skectipal.

We are in the version of 2001 where Dave just pees on the monolith while flipping it off.

i need some good sincere pro flat earth memes for a project (the more "sciency" and professional looking the better) - plz help??

I sometimes think the more "sciency" and professional looking ones are likely to be spoofs.

That "suez canal has no locks" is a crackup. How does he think the ocean works!?

https://steemitimages.com/DQmRRNjWxx4aZtyo24GsmuQEW9FAZsKjzcRttsCR3tem9TA/FB_IMG_1506536175486.jpg

https://goo.gl/images/FaJ7c6

Wait, what is the flat earth explanation for night and day? In the above model, wouldn't it be sunny 24 hours a day?

light switch

https://i.imgur.com/gpC4NVG.gif

seems plausible

So the sun is a directional light source. Fascinating!

Kinda want to employ Karl to turn that into my next music video (just turn earth and sun into records)

Waitamo, if that gif was accurate the sun would rise in Sydney before Melbourne.

another question. according to the flat earth model, are the Sun and the Moon also flat?

Sun and the moon are on sticks coming out of the North Pole IIRC.

There’s a great flat earth documentary on Netflix right now. The funniest bits are the flat earth scientists who go out to disprove that the earth is round and keep getting clowned by physics and reality.

A pictorial representation of the sun:

https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_1bf07f64-ee93-47c3-bb44-222992c638f9?wid=48&hei=488&fmt=pjpeg

Lol, hueg and not so hueg. It's a paradox!

I'll spare a drop of cheap scotch for limo driver, daredevil, and flat Earth conspiracy theorist Mike Hughes, who sought altitude on a DIY rocket to prove all prior geographers, navigators, physicists, space scientists, rocket pioneers, astronauts and modern world travellers wrong.

DAREDEVIL 'MAD' MIKE HUGHES DEAD AT 64 ...Fatal Rocket Crash Landing

Dead Pool 2020

whatever the opposite of "daredevil" is that's how i "self-style"

He certainly dared the devil

the flat earth claims yet another victim

Good thing he didn't manage to crawl round to the underside, he'd have fallen off (is that what these clowns believe?)

turtles all the way down mate

https://moviecomicswhoswho.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/splintercomics2.jpg

the video of the crash is quite distressing - looks like the parachute deployed on take off and then fell off, so once the rocket hit the top of it's rather steep arc, it just hurtled back into the ground at like 300 mph

https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.536370043.3007/flat,550x550,075,f.u60.jpg

:) otm

Not to get too tin hatty, but this sounds like the work of Big Spherical to me. Possibly in collusion with Big Darwinism. Watch your backs, my climate change denying brethren, Big Global Warming will sneak skin cancer into you when you least expect it.

Waldo Stakes, a colleague who was at the rocket launch, said Hughes, 64, was killed.

“It was unsuccessful, and he passed away,” Stakes told The Associated Press. He declined further comment.

This is what they call in the scientific community a "lose/lose."

What a hill to die on. Desert, in this case.
Mantle?

man the lengths the Globies will go to silence the opposition, you hate to see it

not even the best Mad Mike ffs

This comic was in today's funny pages, in one of those weird coincidences.

https://www.gocomics.com/pricklycity/2020/02/23

Had no idea they were already using neural networks to generate newspaper strips. It really does look almost like something a human made!

At any rate, this should really be a celebration of someone who died doing what he loved: engaging in reckless activities with the stated purpose of proving something deeply stupid and the implicit purpose of committing messy suicide.

I don't have the data to back it up, but I feel like the overlap between flat earthers and Darwin award winners is pretty sizable.

― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Sunday, May 21, 2017 12:23 PM (two years ago)

Prophetic.

whut

https://www.inverse.com/article/21098-flat-earthers-trees

The flat-earth nonsense about 40 mile tall trees in that article is just a clickbait lead-in for a longer discussion about deforestation and loss of old-growth, climax forests. The proposal that 'in the Big Picture they aren't all wrong' is just the segue to keep you reading about the author's real concerns. He hopes you won't notice that he stops talking about the flat-earther idiocy that fetched you in and you'll imbibe some environmental awareness. It is a stupid rhetorical gambit that won't work nearly as well as the author hopes it will.

Flat Earthers went to Antarctica to show that the midnight sun didn't exist. Hilarity ensues. I wonder why they didn't look for the edge while they were there.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Flat_Earth#So_why_is_there_no_24-hour_sun_in_Antarctica.3F
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsETzrRr3is