The Martin Shkreli trial roffles thread

Because there has already been plenty. Today's update:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2017/06/28/he-was-born-this-way-martin-shkrelis-attorney-offers-defense-as-securities-trial-opens/?utm_term=.7ec1f7495d98

The trial got off to a slow start as lawyers struggled to seat an impartial jury. Over three days, more than 250 prospective candidates were dismissed for their views of the defendant.

One juror said Wednesday: “The only thing I would be impartial about is which prison he goes to.” Another said he didn’t like Shkreli and “I don’t understand why someone would take a medication that people need and jack up the price.” The potential jurors voice was shaking as he turned to Shkreli and raised his fist. “I would just go over there … is he just stupid or crazy?,” the potential juror said.

“He is probably guilty and there is no way I can let him slide,” a third potential juror said. He then added that he didn’t like that Shkreli had been disrespectful to the Wu Tang Clan.

last sentence there is key

more than 250 prospective candidates were dismissed for their views of the defendant.

This is fuckin hilarious!

bookmarked

if the fuckin enron defendants couldn't get a change of venue this fuckin guy shouldn't

He then added that he didn’t like that Shkreli had been disrespectful to the Wu Tang Clan.

should be on the supreme court

i judge wisely, as if nothin ever surprise me

http://static.deathandtaxesmag.com/uploads/2017/06/pharma_bro_145903290-copy-1498607052-640x400.jpg

this is gonna be such a shit Scorsese movie

OsamaThumbsUp.jpg

OMG, that sketch is hilar. And somehow better at capturing Shkreli's true essence than any mere photograph.

Something about the confirmation that he's no less smug on trial than at any other point in his day-to-day existence is both breathtaking and completely unsurprising.

It came without ribbons!... it came without tags!... it came without packages, boxes, or bags!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ec/94/8f/ec948f14ee6e6924765e0db581d0dde4.jpg

I wonder if any potential jurors were dismissed for voicing admiration for him.

Fuck this guy
(Sorry but someone had to say it)

https://www.wired.com/geekdad/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/gollum-serkis.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPmtM3rWsAAhUtN.jpg

Smooth.

Shkreli mocked the prosecution team from Brooklyn as the “junior varsity” to the federal prosecutors in Manhattan. https://t.co/uyjHJyK9UZ

— Devlin Barrett (@DevlinBarrett) June 30, 2017

As was further noted

The point isn't that this will anger the prosecutors (spoiler: they wake up angry). The point is it may anger the judge https://t.co/lCne33zIC4

— Devlin Barrett (@DevlinBarrett) June 30, 2017

So glad that both leprechaun and gollum were posted in response to that sketch because they were though #1 and #2 microseconds apart

Found guilty!

Sentence this pig fucker to twenty to life

that was quick

reaaaaaallly hope he does prison time

he will not do well in gen pop

"We, the jury, wish to award Bill Murray all of Shkreli's assets, especially the Wu Tang album."

looooooool

Can he be sentenced to that Superman II space mirror? https://t.co/7ydF4BIkPu

— Joseph Hughes (@nczeitgeist) August 4, 2017

This is a fine day. Now to see the Fyre Festival bro suffer the same fate.

no way is this dude actually going to prison, right?

hoping that people are treated poorly in prison is a shitty, shitty look imo

What JCLC said.

Guilty on three counts, not guilty on five.

who cares about looks, it's a shitty frame of mind, period

Martin Shkreli was so unappealing and obnoxious that the DOJ convicted him of a white collar crime. https://t.co/DYvTHXZtGB

— Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller) August 4, 2017

c'mon now, I'm not gonna drop my "wishing terrible things on terrible people" schtick for this asshole

See, now this is how the wheels of cosmic justice are supposed to turn wrt completely irredeemable rich white assholes.

Cosmic or comic?

Why not both?

What's going to be great is if this is the one guy Trump pardons, for no particular reason.

SHHHH don't give him any ideas

Whaddaya mean, 'for no reason'? Do you even realize how many positions he still has unfilled in his administration?

Martin Shkreli, Surgeon General

who cares about looks, it's a shitty frame of mind, period

ordinarily i'd agree but this dude's exterior matches his interior so perfectly that it's hard not to comment on it

I just

Martin Shkreli's reaction when his lawyer says he is a "brilliant young man but sometimes people skills don't translate well" pic.twitter.com/vUCvL8un73

— Steve Kopack (@SteveKopack) August 4, 2017

who cares about looks, it's a shitty frame of mind, period
ordinarily i'd agree but this dude's exterior matches his interior so perfectly that it's hard not to comment on it

― the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Friday, August 4, 2017 12:21 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was referring to this:

hoping that people are treated poorly in prison is a shitty, shitty look imo

― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, August 4, 2017 11:53 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm just nitpicking the whole "don't do this because it makes you look bad", when it should be more like "don't do this because it's mean and being mean is bad", but it really doesn't matter i guess.

trump called this guy a brat or something iirc

xxpost He was clearly just providing a visual aid.

Prison is bad enough without extra indignities befalling you. But this dude was eventually going to get punched in the face no matter what, prison or no. So I guess it's going to happen in prison.

Abolish prisons!!!!

*sees Shkreli going to jail*

my position on this issue has evolved

— sick transit, gloria (@samknight1) August 4, 2017

^^^^^^^

If, in terms of demographics and temperament and criminal leanings, prisons were comprised mostly of Shkrelis, I would likely feel much differently about prisons.

abolish prisons and bring back the pillory

that tweet is killing me

call 911

tell my wife I love her

he has the mannerisms of Weird Al

I'm guessing he won't give those back, either

big roffles: https://harpers.org/archive/2017/09/public-enemy/

juror no. 52: When I walked in here today I looked at him, and in my head, that’s a snake — not knowing who he was. I just walked in and looked right at him and that’s a snake.

I often find myself wondering with dudes like this: did he have the misfortune of inheriting the face of a villain and decide to just embrace it rather than working to develop any decency or humanity?

he could have at least tried to become a typecast character actor

the court: The question is, have you heard anything that would affect your ability to decide this case with an open mind. Can you do that?

juror no. 144: I don’t think I can because he kind of looks like a dick.

the court: You are Juror Number 144 and we will excuse you. Come forward, Juror Number 155.

juror no. 155: I have read a lot of articles about the case. I think he is as guilty as they come.

the court: Then I will excuse you from this case. Juror Number 10, please come forward.

juror no. 10: The only thing I’d be impartial about is what prison this guy goes to.

xp: Martin Shkreli is "Young Steve Buscemi"

also long live juror no. 144

juror no. 59: Your Honor, totally he is guilty and in no way can I let him slide out of anything because —

the court: Okay. Is that your attitude toward anyone charged with a crime who has not been proven guilty?

juror no. 59: It’s my attitude toward his entire demeanor, what he has done to people.

the court: All right. We are going to excuse you, sir.

juror no. 59: And he disrespected the Wu-Tang Clan.

i hope that last one was an over the shoulder, on the way out of the courtroom shout

wait is that article real transcripts or a creative writing project?

I often find myself wondering with dudes like this: did he have the misfortune of inheriting the face of a villain and decide to just embrace it rather than working to develop any decency or humanity?

― Say, I Heard You Had a Quarrel With Your Best Girl (Old Lunch), Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:03 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's like that phenomenon where guys named John Dentist become dentists

xp apparently real

The doctor who performed circumcisions in the hospital where my kids where born was named Dr. Cox.

better that than dr butcher i guess

Reality Winner a good example... i think

Anthony Weiner obv

just read the Harper's story, LOL'd at this:

BRAFMAN: So much for the presumption of innocence.

Phenom is called 'nominative determinism'

yes armand hammer is a good one

yeah, because he makes his living as a blacksmith

No he's a box of baking soda

for a split second there, I was thinking: that Martin Skrtel always looked a bit of a dodgy fucker.

No he's a box of baking soda

he certainly has all the charisma of a box of baking soda

Phenom is called 'nominative determinism'

― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:55 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ooo gotcha. my brother said it's called an 'aptronym'

aptronym is good!

http://www.businessinsider.com/martin-shkreli-journalists-domain-name-custom-2017-8

smdh

take solace in the fact that he's going to get the shit kicked out of him in prison

The wind up...

I think Ive just realised all this time Ive been mentally calling him martin "shrekli"

I guess I can understand the mechanics of filling a human skin with feces but I can't figure out how you then get it to do things like walk around and buy web domains.

His own personal 9/11

Read #MartinShkreli apology here: pic.twitter.com/sFM8sa2QOt

— Dan Mangan (@_DanMangan) September 12, 2017

Wait, what did he say about Clinton? I missed that bit (and fuck wading thru twittr)

he suggested people pull here hair out while she was on her book tour and that he would pay 5k per clinton hair offered up to him
what a profound fucking moron.

on a different point:
https://nyulocal.com/i-look-like-martin-shkreli-and-its-ruining-my-life-45979b4e3a92

http://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*7HNRtJpjjdqmqrKKnv_MiQ.png
start by working on yr posture dude

Easy celebrity impersonator gig, should pay for NYU

Byeeeeeeee

BREAKING: Ex-pharmaceuticals company CEO Martin Shkreli has bail revoked in New York securities fraud case, heads to jail.

— The Associated Press (@AP) September 13, 2017

well at least there's one asshole in the world getting his comeuppance. now about those other guys...

in light of this impassioned plea to the judiciary i have reconsidered my stance on martin shkreli

https://i.redditmedia.com/SpKjX2DSiUPm_bhkj6kqWsHBONIQlt2W0sOjMihDTTM.jpg?w=432&s=cdc99bbdf93899b0d17792673e90d14a

^^ Key item in my future Dadaism and the Alt-Right seminar

If I looked that much like shkreli I'd shave my head and register as an et impersonator instead

I fully believe he belongs in a messy jail cell.

The Good Martin is in the messy room, and he can't leave...

that letter is so gross. "hey mr judge man, you don't get it, threatening people shouldn't be illegal because all my shut-in dickhead internet friends think it's funny, ps jacking up drug prices 1000% is bedroom model tinkering, i'm smart, peace"

-AIDS medication
-unreleased wu tang album
-lock of hillary's hair

poor shkreli, jailed RIGHT before collecting all the potion ingredients

— rachel axler (@rachelaxler) September 14, 2017

Which I assume is some magic tonic which will make his face stop doing that thing his face does.

Lol

This one's for Ned

And Martin Shkreli is sent to jail where he will never obtain the ham he so desires. pic.twitter.com/gnm58ZOXJY

— Courtney Enlow (@courtenlow) September 14, 2017

Hahah

I SO hope this is true, BTW

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-09-14/martin-shkreli-s-2-million-wu-tang-album-might-not-be-a-wu-tang-album

Martin Shkreli, who became notorious as the boyish Pharma Bro after he raised the price of a lifesaving drug by 5,000 percent, paid $2 million in a 2015 auction for the album. He owns the rights to do anything he pleases with it, except sell copies. But interviews with rappers and managers involved in the recording raise questions about its provenance and value: Is Once Upon a Time in Shaolin a true Wu-Tang Clan album? Or did Shkreli pay lavishly for the work of a little-known producer with a peripheral link to the storied rap group?

Shkreli, who currently faces a prison sentence for fraud, may himself have been played.

How's that eBay auction going I wonder?

End of the story says it was at 1 million so he's still losing on the deal.

http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowAllQuestions&iid=132319745117&requested=martishkrel_7&redirect=0&frm=2047675&ShowASQAlways=1&ssPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_VI&clk_rvr_id=1310442671363&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true

Gonna leave this here - The "Questions/Answers" section is, um, interesting...

I’m usually not surprised by these things, but nothing sets off my “It belongs on a museum!” reaction like

The feds want Martin Shkreli to fork over the https://mobile.twitter.com/stewartbishop/status/936622249431445509 million Wu-Tang Clan Album. pic.twitter.com/5QLWcJgDP7

— Stewart Bishop (@stewartbishop) December 1, 2017

Motherfucker has an Enigma machine

So allegedly he's swole now:

https://www.inc.com/bill-murphy-jr/americas-most-hated-ceo-got-buff-in-prison-people-actually-like-him-there-heres-what-happened.html

There are no photos, only courtroom sketches, but at least according to the Post, Shkreli looked a lot harder and stronger under his blue jail uniform.

"He's got his prison muscles, the Post quotes a "source close to the defense" as saying. "They like him in there. ... They don't put their arms around him and say 'Give me your money' like they do to other new prisoners. ... They like him."

There are also two letters that he's sent that have been made public--one to a friend named Lisa Whisnant, and the other to a Brooklyn-based media company called The Tab. He seemed like he was doing OK in both letters.

"Jail has some redeeming qualities," he wrote to The Tab. "It's probably the most social environment I've been in. ... There is camaraderie akin to a military setting. You learn just how lucky you are, you help others out, learn cool slang, watch BET all day. Great times!"

Separately, he wrote Whisnant, "Things are not THAT awful here. ... There are some bright sides. I am teaching these prisoners some new things and hopefully some ways to change their lives."

There's just one small problem, per news from earlier today:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-crime-shkreli/pharma-bro-shkreli-to-be-held-responsible-for-10-4-million-in-losses-u-s-judge-idUSKCN1GA2DB?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social

The ruling from U.S. District Judge Kiyo Matsumoto could mean more prison time for Shkreli, since the amount of financial loss plays a major role in federal sentencing guidelines. While Matsumoto must consider the guidelines at the sentencing, which is scheduled for March 9, she is not bound to follow them.

IOW, pretty much just need a batch of super serum or something and then we'll have the supervillian for the second series of The Defenders.

lol

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/03/politics/trump-maralago-remarks/index.html#

wtf wrong article

http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/05/news/martin-shkreli-wu-tang-forfeiture/index.html

How many times they gonna take away this dude's wu-tang record? Feel like I was reading that same exact article years ago

Aw.

shkreli is crying at his sentencing right now

— allie conti (@allie_conti) March 9, 2018

what a fuckin snowflake

Getting weird over there

"There's no conspiracy to take down Martin Shkreli. I took down Martin Shkreli with my disgraceful actions." lol damn dude

— allie conti (@allie_conti) March 9, 2018

lmao the judge is talking about lauren duca

— allie conti (@allie_conti) March 9, 2018

Oh my god.

oh also earlier shkreli's own lawyer mentioned wanting to punch him in the face so there's that

— allie conti (@allie_conti) March 9, 2018

And bye!

martin shkreli was just sentenced to 7 years in prison

— allie conti (@allie_conti) March 9, 2018

wow, that is unexpected. I didn't know people actually went to prison for this shit

bernie madoff? ENRON men? shkreli followed their lead, made a high profile "example"

Now I'm crying. With laughter.

I didn't know people actually went to prison for this shit

They never do in the UK, they know how to treat rich scumbags over here.

federal time has minimal parole too. he'll be in for at least 6 years. only ways out early is exemplary behavior (lol) or a drug treatment program

xxp well yea but his crimes seemed relatively minor when compared to Bernie Madoff or Enron. what was the grand total of prison years served in the subprime mortgage collapse?

obviously a well-earned sentence either way

[Outro: Judge]
Guilty, next case

xxp well yea but his crimes seemed relatively minor when compared to Bernie Madoff or Enron. what was the grand total of prison years served in the subprime mortgage collapse?

obviously a well-earned sentence either way

― frogbs, Friday, March 9, 2018 7:17 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the key way to do time is to be flagrant as fuck about it. enron was made an example of because it was super public, had a ton of photos of people on the street with their boxes and shit - but no other company had similar circumstances (there were other prosecutions of vile CEOS like adelphia, etc but not as high profile I guess).

the financial crisis perps had the advantage of cover. EVERYONE was guilty as fuck so it was impossible to make an example out of anyone in particular. the enron trial was also time consuming, expensive and not a guaranteed win. no ambitious prosecutor was going to take all that one and risk losing.

lmao omar

yea that makes sense

hard to imagine Shkreli's persona didn't come into play here

imagine being such an asshole that even being rich and white couldn’t save you from a hefty prison sentence, that’s like fuckin super-saiyan levels of unpleasantness

By the way:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-09-14/martin-shkreli-s-2-million-wu-tang-album-might-not-be-a-wu-tang-album

he did make a really powerful point in the midst of his tears, though

#MartinShkreli is dabbing tissue at his eyes now, his voice wavering and choked with emotion."Many of you who love me, support me and look up to me should reassess your position," he says.

— Stephanie Clifford (@stephcliff) March 9, 2018

no one has really addressed how the masses who love him and look up to him should feel. this is a tough time for shkreliNation

going to jail probably sucks

if only opera man were still around to give us "Shkreli in jaili" tomorrow night

https://slate.com/business/2018/03/martin-shkreli-is-going-to-jail-for-the-wrong-reasons.html

yep

a comeuppance that's hollow, really.

The RZA
The GZA
The SKZA

Here's the thing: I can happily agree with the larger premise of that piece and yet still be quite happy he's going to prison for a few years. The guy was clearly a showoffy, heartless dick to *everyone,* treating absolutely nothing seriously beyond his ranty power trip, and this is what it got him, and that's a chunk of his life gone and a permanent record to boot. Reform the system and target some even more egregious criminals by all means, but c'mon.

Oh for sure. Dude is a scumbag.

imagine being such an asshole that even being rich and white couldn’t save you from a hefty prison sentence, that’s like fuckin super-saiyan levels of unpleasantness

― I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Friday, March 9, 2018 4:56 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

again it was the fact that he was a public figure, easily one of the most widely reviled people in America in 2015, and was made an example of. see again: Skilling & Lay, Madoff

Kinda increasingly feeling like people who exist just to smugly wipe their asses with the social contract should be locked up on that basis alone. Or like banish him. Why don't we banish people anymore? I guess I don't know where we'd banish him. Locking him up works for me, sure.

madoff stole from, and embarrassed, rich people. that's why he's in prison for 150 years.

Think this sentence is proof that we will basically accept people being evil predatory fucks, but have zero tolerance for people publicly gloating about it like cartoon villains.

i think this sums up the reasons for the lengthy sentence quite well

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/09/martin-shkreli-sentence-jail-arrogance-sentencing-fraud

Yes, but think it has wider implications that the article doesn't cover

[Outro: Judge]
Guilty, next case

― omar little, Friday, March 9, 2018 1:21 PM (yesterday)

aw fuck yeah

yea even the Daraprim thing was hard to get too worked up about - pharma companies do evil shit like that all the time, Shkreli's job is to make money for his investors and we live in an idiot country where you can do stuff like this (besides, were any patients actually affected by the price hike? I honestly don't know). he's a fucking idiot for continuing to act like a total dipshit even after being nabbed. I know people who've been in legal trouble like this and the #1 priority is to convince the judge that you're not going to be a risk anymore - one guy who probably deserved a 6-year sentence got off w/ 7 months + work release because he was so damn sincere throughout the entire process (plus being a white guy helped). maybe he really wasn't gonna clean up his act but he damn well believed it at the time. Shkreli on the other hand has that Deathdr0ne thing where his entire persona revolves around his open, unrepentant repulsiveness, as though acting like a normal human being for an entire day would cause him to lose his sense of self. it's like Mr Dilbert where he finally found an audience that accepted his awful personality wholesale and thus felt no choice but to dial it up at every opportunity. he fuckin' earned it.

it was very easy to get worked up about the price gouging I completely disagree with you and am kinda shocked to read you say hey it's his job in

My reaction is somewhere in the middle. The gouging was egregious and gross but the level of gross and egregious behavior which is not only acceptable in but also actively expected of a pharma exec probably only differs by a matter of degrees. Like, he's an awful person who should be shot into space but he's also the product of the worst excesses of capitalism and probably not as much of an outlier as we'd like to believe.

i feel the same way as frogbs. Shkreli is an scarecrow & focusing so much ire & glee in his punishment is very silly. this isn't a victory or an achievement of any kind, there is no advancement, corporate gouging & raiding will continue unabated.

Sometimes you gotta hate the player and the game

Like, he's an awful person who should be shot into space

I also don't understand this hyperbolic & vindictive rhetoric, hyper violent & cartoonish. that's Shkreli's default - why copy?

As I mentioned upthread, banishment is probably the best move with someone like this but, because that's an impractical suggestion, I'm now very sincerely proposing that we opt instead to utilize our controversial malcontent-launching technology to send him into orbit. I know human rights organizations like to boo-hoo about all of the asphyxiated douchenozzles currently circling the earth, but what's one more, I ask you.

It's nothing really to celebrate. Here's a cartoon villain to be pointed out when anyone says the parasite class never pay for their crimes, meanwhile all the others of his sort get to look restrained in comparison, and likely get away with worse.

His real crime was coming from a background where he never had the opportunity to learn that the malevolent gloating should be done only behind closed doors. I could almost feel sorry for him if he wasn't such a fucking prick.

As I mentioned upthread, banishment is probably the best move with someone like this but, because that's an impractical suggestion, I'm now very sincerely proposing that we opt instead to utilize our controversial malcontent-launching technology to send him into orbit. I know human rights organizations like to boo-hoo about all of the asphyxiated douchenozzles currently circling the earth, but what's one more, I ask you.

^

What can I say, I just lust for his blood. And I have an equal amount of lust for sardonic hyperbole and those who are able to discern its presence in a text.

Lol as if I didn’t pick up on your sarcasm. there’s a scrim of real anger there that ive seen elsewhere & itt that is baffling and very dumb

The actions of unfettered capitalists are often directly at odds with the conduct required to perpetuate society qua society. Thousands of years ago, our hunter-gatherer ancestors would have shunned or banished or beaten to death any upstart who threatened the integrity of their society by flagrantly disregarding their shared values while enjoying the benefits conferred by that society. Things have changed considerably, obvs, but I think many people still have an inherent and understandable repulsion towards those who seek only to exploit their own society without even the illusory courtesy of pretending to care about the world outside themselves. It's an enduring testament to our notions of civility that we generally restrict ourselves to cartoonish reveries and a faith in justice in lieu of forming a mob and driving out the cancerous elements ourselves.

heh

https://assets.rbl.ms/17066844/980x.gif

i normally see that screed used against social welfare recipients but carry on sure

otm

bloodlust in general nagl imo

There's probably an argument to be made that Shkreli actually met the business end of justice in part because he's the rare one-percenter who's shitty at redirecting righteous anger onto some demonized underclass, but it's a saturday night and watching movies is funner than making arguments.

Guys, seriously, don't know where the 'bloodlust' thing even came from itt. I cheered for Shkreli's imprisonment and I made what I thought were obviously ridiculous propositions for his banishment and his ejection into space. Even in the latter case, I'd argue in favor of giving him a lifetime supply of canned goods and a pot to piss in.

look on a board that called for #malegenocide yesterday i dont even know what to believe anymore

imagining the last scene of good bad ugly itt ever since its good

hey flappy and frogbs, have you known anyone who's died from AIDS?

yes

Thousands of years ago, our hunter-gatherer ancestors would have shunned or banished or beaten to death any upstart who threatened the integrity of their society by flagrantly disregarding their shared values while enjoying the benefits conferred by that society.

yeah we also used to hang people publicly times change

good to see this fool go down but obv there are thousands just like him that aren't as blatant/public about it specifically for public justice fantasies OL hinted at and they will get away with it just like they always have bc public bloodlust has been satiated through this jackass sacrifice

hyperbole doesn’t work very well in the middle of what people think is reasoned discourse

I vote each ilx thread gets a big switch at the top and you can view the hyperbolic posts or the debate

Probably just easier to killfile me tbh.

the third setting on the switch turns on the electric chair

Old Lunch should just change his name to New Bloodlust

Best not to look at UK political threads then, it's guillotines this, gulags that...

have a hunch about active UK political hyperbolist Old Tea

no point in prosecuting one criminal as long as a single other worse criminal gets away with things

yes

if you controlled the price of a drug that kept them alive, would you have raised the price of it by $636.50 a pill, because this was a thing that you could do? when it had already cost 75x more per pill in the US than in Australia, before you raised the price?

sorry in advance to Tombot if it's uncool to think it hurts people here to pay 4,167% more for a medicine than elsewhere

Best not to look at UK political threads then, it's guillotines this, gulags that...

the fuckin worst

its all rhyming slang lads

LOL at anything in the universe being worse than ILX US politics threads tbh.

ILM music threads

Not even those.

Thanking u all for picking up the hyperbole torch in my absence, it's touching really.

(j/k, US politics threads the worst thing to happen since the invention of written language.)

at least US ILX have the hilarious Chapo Trap House phenomena. I mean cumtown, the R word chucked about like in the old days, so edgy + viscerally funny etc...not so many laughs on Uk politics thread I will admit.

no point in prosecuting one criminal as long as a single other worse criminal gets away with things

yes

if you controlled the price of a drug that kept them alive, would you have raised the price of it by $636.50 a pill, because this was a thing that you could do? when it had already cost 75x more per pill in the US than in Australia, before you raised the price?

― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Sunday, March 11, 2018 6:32 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sorry in advance to Tombot if it's uncool to think it hurts people here to pay 4,167% more for a medicine than elsewhere

― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Sunday, March 11, 2018 6:35 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i never said MK wasn't a scumbag, just that orgiastic celebration over his downfall is silly

*MS

I don't understand this hyperbolic & strawman-ish rhetoric, hyper-sexual & cartoonish. That's Shkreli's default - why copy?

Daraprim is still $750 a pill. Does anyone actually pay that price? Is it actually prescribed with any regularity anymore?

I assume it's still prescribed since it doesn't have any competitors as far as I know. I was looking around yesterday trying to find some details on how the price increase impacted actual users. It's hard to find confirmation of how much anyone's paying out of pocket for it. Supposedly, Turing provides free drugs for uninsured people and assists with copays so that no one's paying more than $10 per tablet.

At the very least, the price increase impacted users by adding an additional stress about whether they'd be able to access the drug. e.g.

This fall, three years since my last neurosurgery, my shunt suddenly failed. I once again found myself in the ER. This time, I was more nervous than usual. What if the hospital didn’t have Daraprim because of the recent price hike? How much co-insurance would I have to pay for Daraprim? Would I be able to get my prescription filled for my post-operative course of Daraprim? None of these questions should have been running through my head at a time when I was rapidly losing cognitive and motor function.

The possibility of an ACA repeal must also be a huge worry for people relying on Daraprim.

it also limits where they can get the drug, which is now only available through a single dispensing pharmacy

and while the consumer isn't paying the $750/pill themselves, the insurance companies are....I'm sure they then pass the cost along to their customers somehow

my only two posts in this thread are a joke about armie hammer having a brand name for a name, and this

Sentence this pig fucker to twenty to life

― El Tomboto, Friday, August 4, 2017 2:49 PM (seven months ago)

so with regards to sic and his dearest loved ones, well, I guess I hope they all die of a readily preventable illness

I don't understand this hyperbolic & strawman-ish rhetoric, hyper-sexual & cartoonish. That's Shkreli's default - why copy?

― Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Sunday, March 11, 2018 11:11 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

martin shkreli is anything but sexy

iirc there are occasionally other threads on which you get lightly cranky about ppl worrying that some things in America are damaging to the populace

I’m fairly certain my position on our healthcare system has been consistent but “whatevs”

i saw Garbage Pail Kids at age 7 and liked it, hopefully nobody will judge my cinematic tastes due to that

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bureau-of-prisons-opens-new-investigation-into-martin-shkreli-11552069443

Paul Manafort must be a role model

God help me, I enjoy reading Shkreli’s prison blog. I think being locked up has somehow made him more likable.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/17/857612249/pharma-bro-martin-shkreli-denied-release-from-prison-to-research-coronavirus-cur

I miss his blog.

https://www.elle.com/life-love/amp35021224/martin-shkreli-christie-smythe-pharma-bro-journalist/?__twitter_impression=true

glad these two awful people have each other

oh the end is even better!

During the trial, she visited his apartment and listened to the Wu-Tang album—“for research,” she says.

not gonna link to her acct but she's continuing to defend him and her actions on twitter smh

phenomenal

absolutely make sure to read to the end

yup

that is a dire fucking story

oof

Strange and sad article. I feel for her I guess but Christ.

She says she did this partly to correct false information—he didn’t increase the price on the EpiPen, for instance, and he is 5'10", not 5'7"

tbh somebody already told me to search shkreli on twitter before I even saw this thread had been updated so the ending of the article was spoiled for me

hence one word response above

truly we are so far beyond our simian ancestors

"I don’t know if everything he was saying was true, but maybe like 1 percent is, and that’s awesome on its own.”

Ze heart wants what ze heart wants! And if what ze heart wants is for someone to take a shit upon it, who are we to judge?

I just can't help but feel that her ex-husband is a very lucky man.

I’m sure investment management guy is ok

i feel bad for her tbh unless i missed some truly awful detail in the story. feel like she’s really caught in a web

"bloomberg tracked how many seconds its reporters filed stories ahead of their competitors"

if u wanna know why we are were we are

yeah, lo key the most depressing detail of that story

i felt bad for her but the story doesn't press her on some of the glaringly bad things that her beloved definitely did do, e.g. the price gauging

i feel bad for her tbh unless i missed some truly awful detail in the story. feel like she’s really caught in a web

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, December 21, 2020 7:34 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

while I do not share your sympathy, this was a very underdeveloped part of the story!

The thing where she keeps wrapping herself in webbing despite the umpteen red flags emblazoned with 'CAUTION, U ARE CAUGHT IN A HUGE FRICKIN WEB RN' make me a little less inclined to feel bad for her. She has to want to help herself but all she wants to help herself to is a sweet slice of that hot Shkreli lovin'.

Another underrated passage:

Smythe has only one photo of the two of them, propped next to her bed. Shkreli, his arm around Smythe, has a wide-open smile. “Doesn’t he look human there?” Smythe says, laughing.

Y'know, in the correct light, if you squint just right, he really does look like something that was birthed rather than summoned!

The thing where she keeps wrapping herself in webbing despite the umpteen red flags emblazoned with 'CAUTION, U ARE CAUGHT IN A HUGE FRICKIN WEB RN' make me a little less inclined to feel bad for her. She has to want to help herself but all she wants to help herself to is a sweet slice of that hot Shkreli lovin'.

yeah that is the main vibe i got

Yeah, that much is clear, but she's also had a year away from him to clear her head and has apparently chosen to lean in to the gaslighting instead.

That's sort of the enigma of it all. She's being manipulated ... by a universally reviled sleazy criminal repellent troll douchebag, not some infamous charmer. Even Stephen Miller has more supporters than this dude. It's pretty baffling.

If there's one thing I know about douchebags like this, they attract a certain special % of the population. Only the slightest manipulation necessary.

Number one thing I learned writing a book about fraudsters; they are horrible people and they cannot be trusted on even the simplest things.

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) December 21, 2020

mfw I see the second @ in that tweet 🤭

We were talking a little bit about this kind of thing on the Friday night hang recently.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41cPMjJduxL.jpg

Probably posted upthread but worth a rescreen at any rate:
https://i.imgur.com/ectms6i.jpeg

How could she possibly have seen past the charms of the master manipulator? I mean after her husband, friends, professors, employer, colleagues all told her she was possibly being manipulated, how could she have seen it?

That’s really unnecessary and ignorant of how that kind of thing works.

I'm not sure why we're affecting a softer touch wrt the reporter manipulated by Shkreli than we do with the multitudes manipulated by, say, the current POTUS but okay

i would prefer to frame it like: i have a lot of sympathy for ppl who are indoctrinated into cults which are often run by ppl like shkreli

i would say both analogies aren't very appropriate tho. idk

the ending just made me sad

I'm not sure why we're affecting a softer touch wrt the reporter manipulated by Shkreli than we do with the multitudes manipulated by, say, the current POTUS but okay

At the risk of making gyac, who I like a lot, think less of me, I can't help finding lols at someone being manipulated by a face this punchable:

http://imgur.com/t/martin_shkreli/YeTcYK9

At least Manson had drugs and perhaps some animal magnetism. This is like being manipulated by Snidely Whiplash!

Fuck! I bet Shkreli could post an img.

photo fashion credits for that woman's pictures list her dress as being by "The Vampire's Wife" which is just...

Sometimes you just need an excuse to get out of a bad marriage.

It was a bit on the nose wasn’t it

Seriously, when they got to:

When Shkreli found out about this article, though, he stopped communicating with her. He didn’t want her telling her story, she says.

My immediate thought was, "oh, honey, he's got someone else."

She seems like a very bad person so I'm glad this is happening to her.

yeah other than taking her younger siblings to McDonald’s instead of church I don’t find her very sympathetic

I'm not saying she should be cast out of society but she's a well-educated person who seems to be aggressively pursuing some 'most egregiously-bad decisions' world record. Everyone seems eager to tell her so. Even (spoilers?) Shkreli himself m/l seems to be alluding to the same in Dickhole-ese. It's not even an 'aw, crap, I've somehow wound up married to Martin' sitch she can't easily extract herself from. She is not in direct contact with or legally bound to him in any way. She may have trashed her marriage and her job but she hasn't crossed some line where her reputation is unsalvageable. As I said before, her perspective is out of whack and she clearly needs help, but she has to want it. 'That's sweet' doesn't indicate to me that she wants it.

I didn't think anything in the article was funny

She seems like a very bad person so I'm glad this is happening to her.

― Fetchboy, Monday, December 21, 2020 12:04 PM (fifty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i keep not being able to see this, should i read her twitter feed

she seems awfully normal and boring until she meets shkreli in that story

well-educated and smart ppl fall for this shit all the time

from finance bro to pharma bro

I can’t lie I chuckled at he’s aCsHuAlLy 5’10”!!!1

the air being perfumed with chicken wings for their first kiss is such a perfect detail that i did lol

My immediate thought was, "oh, honey, he's got someone else."

My first thought was he was working on his own book/movie/concept album pitch and wanted to keep the details exclusive.

5'10" = king of the manlets

im a wee lad maybe 5’9” myself so like hey I get it but it’s just so funny how important it was for this lunatic to let the world know that her sociopath jailbird boyfriend is definitely NOT 5’7”

this was boring

Brad otm.

will never not feel good about bourgeois trash getting their comeuppance. let us have this in 2020

im a wee lad maybe 5’9” myself so like hey I get it but it’s just so funny how important it was for this lunatic to let the world know that her sociopath jailbird boyfriend is definitely NOT 5’7”

― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Monday, December 21, 2020 1:26 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'm guessing she insisted on correcting this point because it is a huge priority for him

i also don't know if it's going too far to insist you should be careful using the word "lunatic" to describe someone especially a woman

sorry to infringe on the good vibes

After that, “he kept toying with me for a while,” Smythe says. He would dangle an on-the-record interview and then grant one to one of her competitors.... Through the summer, Shkreli kept up his game of cat and mouse, offering Smythe tantalizing hints about evidence, then ghosting her for weeks over some perceived offense.

to me, this is textbook, but i forgot if it happens to a certain kind of person it's righteous class war

Let’s just say the reaction I got here for even suggesting this didn’t exactly lend itself to me deciding to spend time itt explaining it, but you’re a better person than me. As long as people can call a woman a “lunatic” (great look on a board with a dwindling population of female posters, can’t think why women feel so unwelcome) without stopping to think about it for two seconds, why ruin their fun?

She cares more about feeling like "a political wife" and holding court with a bunch of princeton econ sociopaths than the very real evil Shkreli smugly and unapologetically committed. That's the "certain kind of person" she is.

okidoke

i will say the worst way to become anti-incarceration is because you're in love with martin shkreli

now i am going to return to not thinking about these people

Good idea.

i'm guessing she insisted on correcting this point because it is a huge priority for _him_

i also don't know if it's going too far to insist you should be careful using the word "lunatic" to describe someone especially a woman

Shkreli heads (like those dumbass college kids in the story) and Trump faithful occupy a very similar territory in my head

see also online Musk stans.

Seems to me that this kind of behavior is best filed under Duly Noted and not thought about for too long. Or so I have heard.

pic.twitter.com/dyMmMFkoEL

— Bad COVID-19 Takes (@BadCOVID19Takes) December 21, 2020

Ah, so there's a new NEW piece.

https://www.elle.com/life-love/a35036400/christie-smythe-stephanie-clifford-martin-shkreli-story/

heh, maybe we’re the suckers. she’ll have a gofundme up by the end of the week

Basically this woman seems like someone I don’t want to be around but… she also hasn’t really done anything other than be a little bit of a(n arguably self-destructive) dick? I wouldn’t be surprised if she regrets this later but the only person in this scenario she’s currently hurting is herself and I kind of… don’t care?

This article was especially bizarre since it didn't mention that he's been engaged for the past year (to Maureen Lohry).

I also noticed Christie Smythe has redacted Maureen Lohry from images (e.g. Smythe's pinned tweet). It's so bizarre.

Wait what

Maureen Lohry and Shkreli dated after the arrest. They became engaged sometime after he started his sentence. Lohry has been controlling a lot of his assets (i.e. weird pharma scams), e.g. she's the current CEO of Prospero.

Trying to make Spinal Tap joke about The New New Originals.

The article also provided no evidence that Christie Smythe and Shkreli had anything other than the obvious journalist and source relationship (regardless of what Smythe thinks). This entire situation is bizarre and shady.

Besides the fried chicken kiss.

wait if you're Albanian you get free wine?

Enver Hoxha's greatest triumph

lol

I feel like there's an episode of Jonathan Creek a bit like this

Albanian kind of strange language.

The article also provided no evidence that Christie Smythe and Shkreli had anything other than the obvious journalist and source relationship (regardless of what Smythe thinks). This entire situation is bizarre and shady.

― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, December 21, 2020 6:58 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

good point...

The article also provided no evidence that Christie Smythe and Shkreli had anything other than the obvious journalist and source relationship (regardless of what Smythe thinks). This entire situation is bizarre and shady.

Is this a joke? She helped his attorney file a affidavit in Federal court that they were in a relationship and would be living with her upon his release.

an affidavit

And you were on Clubhouse last night. I’m so out of it, I don’t know what that is. What is Clubhouse?

That was wild. I didn't know what Clubhouse was; I should’ve Googled it. Apparently it's some Silicon Valley thing and it had some association with trolls, and I didn't know that offhand. Somebody invited me to go because they said they were talking about me. And I said, okay, sure. The moderator was great. She was very promoting of respect. And it actually was a very good and healthy discussion, I think.

Glad this was cleared up.

Fun fact: the worst wine I've ever had was in Albania. It tasted like brine.

seventeen glasses
brine wine

It takes a heart like Christie's these days when your man gets weak.

the story of the year makes it into the paper of record

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/21/business/media/martin-shkreli-christie-smythe.html#click=https://t.co/wJFHGIhe6T

i don't like that this is THE STORY OF THE MOMENT when we're all dying but i guess that's clickbait (tm)

the pharma bro story did not include the bit where she was like 'my man will save us from the coronavirus' pic.twitter.com/ktsq2EpOXU

— James Palmer (@BeijingPalmer) December 21, 2020

If I understand her correctly, I believe she's asserting that he knows so much about viruses because he is, himself, a virus.

"His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy
There's vomit on his sweater already, Martin Shkreli" - my head all day

The article also provided no evidence that Christie Smythe and Shkreli had anything other than the obvious journalist and source relationship (regardless of what Smythe thinks). This entire situation is bizarre and shady.

what? I'm a news reporter for a bloomberg rival who also regularly covers court and nothing about Smythe and Shkreli's relationship as described is normal in any sense of the word.

I know most TV and films seem to think all female journalists sleep/flirt with their sources and I'm so sorry this story seems to feed into that bs, but come the fuck on.

Ms. Smythe said she had no regrets about how she had dealt with the ethically perilous issue of covering someone she had developed feelings for. “In journalism school, they don’t really tell you what to do when this comes up,” she said. “I just tried to muddle through it and handle things as best as I could.”

This quote from her in the NYT story is also... gah. If you start developing romantic feelings for your source, you take yourself off the story or end the relationship, jfc.

United States Sells Unique Wu-Tang Clan Album Forfeited by Convicted Hedge Fund Manager Martin Shkreli https://t.co/hVHDk9nH4h

— US Attorney EDNY (@EDNYnews) July 27, 2021

i bought it, selling listens for $50/listen

YSI?

Don't know how I forgot about the reporter in a 'relationship' with Shkreli. Guess she's was still completely snowed as of a couple months back:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wvdtiEv-qo

A blast from the past!

BREAKING:

Martin Shkreli must pay a $64.6 million fine and is BANNED FOR LIFE from "participating in the pharmaceutical industry in any capacity," a federal judge ruled.

DEVELOPING story, @LawCrimeNews. https://t.co/WZ3owSJGYX pic.twitter.com/t8aSYXU6ar

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) January 14, 2022

lmao

I wonder if he still wears that smirk all the time.

if only they did this to every monopolist

how creative are judges allowed to get with injunctions, exactly? can they require him to release Once Upon A Time in Shaolin?

It’s already been sold to some bullshit crypto wankers.

He never owned the rights to release it, just a CD.

it's just a 60 minute version of "Got Your Money" anyway

apparently the case was pretty badly banged up

lol that this dude was sitting in prison during the insane runup of crypto

And he's out and about (and per the post above, just in time to totally miss crypto's bubble):

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Pharma-bro-Martin-Shkreli-released-from-17182037.php

back in the game

https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/nation-world/judge-martin-shkreli-to-turn-over-all-copies-of-wu-tang-clan-album/507-8d7c0d1f-7fc7-47a1-9f12-191464a2b1f6

lol "RELEASE THE WU!"