FP: Should 31 be the new 51 y/n

display the number of FPs next to the posts that draw them imo

^^this system works on the football forum i post to. also offers a chance for lolz

hey, i'm only thinking of the lolz

colour coding of display names for every 10 FPs, goes to flashing red and black when you reach 50

also anybody who reaches 31 has to go to an "Are You Sure You Want To Post This?" confirmation page before every subsequent post is accepted.

^this page is adorned with floating gifs of previous much-flagged posts

ban no longer lasts for 30 days but is over as soon as the culprit handwrites 51 letters of apology to the relevant ilxors

how do you know who is relevant?

What is FP?

flag post. i've only ever done it for one person & one post

ban no longer lasts for 30 days but is over as soon as the culprit handwrites 51 letters of apology to the relevant ilxors

― Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Sunday, October 29, 2017 9:45 PM (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is an idea I can embrace

I don't want any email from gabbneb or larry appleton, thanks

abolish the cowardly system altogether plz

another important question would be how many times a poster has FP'd

Fuck me, Twitter and FB are click for like type meritocracies, and look at the fucking state of them for goodness sake. And 99% of football forum "content" is enough to drive you to ending it for good. I'd say do not change anything ILX.

Yeah I'm not into public display of which posts have been FP'd and how many times, way too much like FB

has the board really had an issue with abusive or seriously disruptive posters recently?

remarkable how prevalent the cop mindset is tbh

we're all cops

I think it's just one example that caused this post

and that individual has now been banned, for hitting 51

Good Gulags are needed in these difficult times, the type that Solzhenitsyn + Shalamov would approve of imo.

write 51 times i will not be a bad poster

i like the new party atmosphere on the Admin Log

Fuck me, Twitter and FB are click for like type meritocracies, and look at the fucking state of them for goodness sake. And 99% of football forum "content" is enough to drive you to ending it for good. I'd say do not change anything ILX.

― calzino, Sunday, October 29, 2017 7:04 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wisdom

Aw whaddi miss whaddi miss

we're all cops

― ogmor, Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:16 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes.

I think it's just one example that caused this post

― El Tomboto, Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:20 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not really. A bit though yeah, def.

Lots of people otm here, some a bit too eager even to my own liking but that comes with the territory.

Feels like the ilx massive wants to exclude a person or two for quite some time. And it's not happening. Fine by me, but the system seems flawed for 2017 realness. Which is why I asked 31 for 51.

Shoulder to the wheel etc

i think we need more posters

is advertising in the budget?

21 imo

1

11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUFSB2plwzM

Don't Cry vs November Rain has new answers

so that was not a useful lead for finding out who you want iced

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3DllvVSsLc

Guys. I was going to wait but

I found the perfect venue for this year's ILX reunion

http://www.311cruise.com/

So wait... we're complaining because there are less dickheads needing/getting flagged/banhammered because theres less of us now, and this is a problem why exactly?

I think that brings up a good point - we might dislike certain posters more than we ever would have in, say, peak noize dude era, because there are less of us, and so the, uh, noize floor is more noticeable

39, because I just rewatched the 39 Steps

i support bernard snowy's proposal, seems sound.

if it's true that there are fewer of us, that makes us more vulnerable to assholes hanging around forever, never to reach 51 but able to really derail every thread at their whim. i always thought 51 was kind of shockingly high but i guess people used to do a lot more lol-SBing and you had to compensate for that.

btw at first glance I assumed this was a thread about flagging anyone who posted some lifestyle article about how age 31 is "the new 51"

would support that flag policy btw

why are we proposing a solution to a problem we do not have, is the question

^^^^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6U-TGahwvs

why are we proposing a solution to a problem we do not have, is the question

― k3vin k., Monday, 30 October 2017 02:57 (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There aren't any fp's. Try to keep up.

I just flag the really bad posts with each of my 27 sock accounts

I suspect this poll was prompted by a particular poster who may have been 51'ed under a different username, but came back and is still a frequent irritant. My sense is that if any poster rises to the level of unacceptability requiring ejection, ILX will muster the necessary 51 FPs.

I personally doubt that there have been many posters who accumulated more than 31 active FPs who did not also pass the 51 threshold soon afterwards, but that is merely a guess on my part. Picking the 'right' number is not a science, but a fairly inexact heuristic. I'm fine with any number, as long as it is high enough that it cannot be driven by relatively small cabal. 51 has been adequately functional so far, imo.

I also note that 51 has deeply entered ILX lore. Changing it would render that lore illegible.

52

the 51'd should be redirected to a false ilx full of bots

ERROR #36536424 SARCASTIC RESPONSE NOT FOUND

stet would probably add a tell to be sure that he himself never got trapped in fake ilx. something subtle but absurd. like mordy bot always posting about jenga in the boardgame thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixL_jmGRDXY

you can't just rename Area 51

BTW, the admin log is now flashing pink.

you say this like it's a bad thing

Thing is, on the rare occasions that a particularly obnoxious or abusive/racist/homophobic new poster appears, they tend to attract 10-20 FPs almost immediately which alerts us to them. Most of the time it's so obvious that we just ban them straight away, in the same way we would if we came across those posts by reading a thread normally.

As far as it goes for ILX regulars, the high threshold is kind of the point. You need to piss off a lot of people to get to that point. A lower threshold would be more open to abuse and as Kevin K says it's a solution to a problem we don't really have right now.

manufactured pop 'music' sucks, where's the fuckin rock

Capitalism is nuff fab.

donald trump is just a guy doing his best

pizza is best left to the British

ok, this started as a flaggable posts riff, but seriously, wouldn't the true ilx equivalent of likes/+1s be a tick.jpg link and an invisible tally of clicks until a post hits 51 and is then auto added to an aggregated excelsior page.

You can like an unfunny post tbf

I only FP for dumb revives. Revive with caution my Gs.

I'll take the risk

The football forum I post to has an interesting system that isn't without its flaws. There's a Like button AND a LOL button, as well as a FP button. Three buttons for every post! The biggest difficulty comes with LOLs, which are handed out both for genuinely humorous content and embarrassing nonsense. I've thought maybe a fourth button - LOL @ - to differentiate from 'LOL with' - and perhaps a fifth, a sort of 'super like', which you can dole out thrice per week to distinguish full hero-worship from the posts you vaguely concur with. A sixth button would be a 'dislike' - not as strong as a flag but nonetheless admonitory in nature. Other buttons for gratitude, shock or incomprehension suggest themselves. It really is limitless when you think about it

a good system would be one where -- right below where someone posts -- there's a space where you can put a follow-up comment, perhaps of approval or derision, perhaps a further joke, perhaps suggesting the thread steer more towards your own interests

that is sedition and you belong in a facility

instead of having options for how ppl express themselves, you want to force them to communicate in a box

what about if all threads were polls and answers could only be expressed as sub-polls?

I would like to cast my vote for a textless, all-button ILX.

I believe it’s called a field, technically
Xp

appreciate the explanation

appreciate the rewording of my joke

Something like FP has to scale, I think. After all, with a million posters 51 would be achieved too often to be useful, and with 50 posters it wouldn't be reached. If we have fewer posters now maybe it should be scaled down; I don't really care either way. I've only ever clicked the FP button by mistake on my phone, as far as I recall.

who says humanity ever scaled

greyscale punishment for 51 seems just

Fewer posters since when? When was FP introduced?

i thought pissing off each other was our raison d'etre

oh off? whew

I seriously doubt we have fewer posters due to FP/SB or anything like that. It is more likely its because we aged out, and also a lot of women left ILX for reasons I'm sure no one needs to go over for the enth time.

Going over things for the enth time ... on ILX ... where there are currently 200+ new posts arguing about the merits of Tusk vs. The White Album?

yeah but this time someone is totally wrong about the white album

i never thought a late night bump about the white album being scary would cause so much tsuris

scary is not a word I associate with anything about the Beatles, except for maybe the thought of contracting diseases from their rotting corpses

LBI

in lieu of lowering the cap, how about this: tell us who you want to banned, and i will FP them. sure many others would be happy to oblige

flappy w/ the surprise yiddish drop

killfile/ block poster on zing takes the edge off ilx’s worst (tusk white album thread is Swiss cheese chez moi) but maybe The System could auto fp the fools we’ve blocked since as it is I have to actually look at the trash to fp it o/w I’m not doing my part to purify ilx

The System could auto fp the fools we’ve blocked

Seems like there would be plenty of reasons to block someone you didn't particularly care for that don't rise to bannable offenses. The point of blocking/killfiling is precisely that it is personal to oneself and tailors ILX to your own predilections. Banning is universal and affects all ILX.

Yeah to FP and ban people is pretty serious & really only extends to personal attacks, thread stalking, and obviously if they're being openly racist/homophobic/misogynistic/etc etc etc.

I was going to say that people who post without actually engaging with others is the worst, but maybe the worst people just have every other poster killfiled

do you mean ignoring people or not engaging with people in good faith conversation?

Yeah to FP and ban people is pretty serious & really only extends to personal attacks, thread stalking, and obviously if they're being openly racist/homophobic/misogynistic/etc etc etc.

― flappy bird, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 18:37 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

100% wrong

Modban for that

Read the histories son

xp both seem fair?

imo some posts can only be engaged with in bad faith

ban turrican

there it is

Everyone wants the perfect society but nobody wants to be a citizen

i am going to go back on an fping spree so watch out

fingp's surely

ban turrican

― marcos, Tuesday, October 31, 2017 2:47 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't know why I didn't block Turrican after he called me "the Roger Waters of 9/11"

oh i just read the white album v tusk thread hahahaha. an fp was handed out i can tell you that much

"the Roger Waters of 9/11"

Not really sure what this means?

surely roger waters is the roger waters of 9/11

I now remember why I mostly avoid ILM
can we get quotes around the word "love" in the board name plz

Quotes around "music" also a fair request imo

at least I got a new screen name out of this

this is the story: I accidentally posted something in the "unusual details in wikipedia articles" thread that was meant for the twin peaks thread. it was a detail about the building in the opening scene of the first episode not existing, and that someone had figured out the made up building was in the same spot as a church that was destroyed on 9/11, along with a very old Sycamore tree. just something to think about within the twin peaks thread. then Turrican said "Flappy bird is to 9/11 as Roger Waters is to WWII," because i guess he's read enough of my posts to figure out that I lived next to the Twin Towers when 9/11 happened and felt it was necessary to insult me apropos of nothing. Fuck him.

DJP with all due respect it's really not funny

do you think he has a little counter on his screen where he gives himself points for being rude

xp. it's at least a little bit funny

knowing you actually lived there, what the ever-loving hell was T doing

i'm not sure T thinks he's engaging with real people.

i mean i hope not.

"Flappy bird is to 9/11 as Roger Waters is to WWII,"

Right, I see, so you father died in 9/11.

being an annoying pedantic asshole is one thing but the 9/11 comment is so over the line & I really don't want that to become a joke because it's not funny and I'd really like to not have to read it in display names and shit, sorry if i'm being a downer

Is this better?

none of my family died. i'd rather not get into it for obvious reasons.

jim & DJP- i really don't like that line or any reference to it because it was by far the most hurtful thing anyone has ever said to me on ILX. separate from 9/11 references, which obviously I have to deal with every day, it's a fact of life. i mean i'm not gonna FP you but i'd appreciate not having to read a display name that references a really fucking mean line directed at me

xp lol, yes. sorry for being a stick in the mud

tbh flappy i thought the way you changed your o.g. login name without making a fuss about it when some of us were having a go at you was v classy so

fair's fair i meant to add

apologies for being flippant

#neverforget

oh yeah, i mean i had no idea my old username was offensive outside the USA, as soon as someone said as much, it was only right to change it

xp no worries jim! love ya ;p

huh i have no idea what flappy's o.g. login name was.

I'm really confused about this Roger Waters thing, tbh.

yeah it doesn't make much sense to me, shd ban Turrican anyway

musical hang-ups about history and fathers iirc

but in flappy's case it's weird projection and personal attacks

comparing someone to roger waters is way over the line imo

otm

I took it as "he brings up 9/11 and how it affected him as frequently as Roger Waters brings up WWII and how it affected him," which is something people have said to my family and me in the past so it was especially nasty and ignorant because dude knows nothing about me

total respect to you flappy bird, because I probably had a pop at your o.g. login and was probably very unnecessarily rude and tactless, such was my m.o. at the time and probably still is sometimes. Anyway you seem a million times better a poster than that unmentionable one.

proud of my part in this: no way sna

Roger Waters' father was killed in WW2, later in life I think he might have wrote a few songs about this... or something. The implication being that flappy was somehow milking his personal connection/experience to 9/11 for... something or other.

lol, calzino certainly did have a pop, if you follow my link there :D

lol i forgot that it happened in the no way sna thread

flappy's a good guy and upright citizen imo

flappy's film opinions are amongst my favourites on ile

thanks guys, i appreciate it, i love ilx

flappy bird is totally cool i appreciate them

turrican bums me out

i frequently mix up flappy and turrican, and i am shocked to find they are enemies

one of them hates future islands

one of them hates animal collective

i have researched this matter, and i offer apologies to flappy bird

i think because flappy bird and turrican are so often interlocutors in a circuitous and seemingly endless colloquy it was, at first, easy for me to also confuse the two

true

flappy not an aggressively tedious dullard so I have no problem distinguishing him.

I took it as "he brings up 9/11 and how it affected him as frequently as Roger Waters brings up WWII and how it affected him"

Yup, I remember this and this was pretty much the way that it was intended, although I didn't actually know that you lived so close to the twin towers when I wrote that (I've only found that out, like, right this second) - I just assumed that you were more than a touch obsessed with 9/11 and didn't bother to look into why that was. Now that I know why, it's understandable that you'd want to talk about it so much and now feel my comments were unwarranted and incredibly mean.

i was unaware that flappy allegedly 'brings up 9/11 and how it affected him frequently' -- i had him tagged as 'knows too much about smashing pumpkins'

* updates xls *

I sometimes get my flappy birds, flopsons and frogbs confused, one of them is a YMO stan.

Like, I don't really give much of a shit if people get upset over my posting style or my opinions on music, but I really don't want to be upsetting people over their very real offline issues.

i appreciate the apology, turrican. i don't think i talk about it that much on here but i can see how one could misconstrue w/o context i guess

and i know way too much about the smashing pumpkins

and by know too much i mean i saw 3 shows with Mike Byrne on drums

ok back to regularly scheduled programming

lol

lol silby

Anyhow - flappy, as much as we may have had our conflicts over music from time to time (I will never understand your Animal Collective fixation, for one), I apologise for the Roger Waters comment. It was highly insensitive and I wouldn't have made the comment in the first place if I'd truly known your situation.

thank you

fp'ing you both for this disgusting display of maturity

😜

Like, I don't really give much of a shit if people get upset over my posting style

well maybe you should care. or something.

hey, it's never really upset anybody

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Once.

should be a thread where the 51'd can make one last post with full knowledge of who 51'd them

or maybe the 51'd can post it into any thread. but the 51'd will know that it will surely be the last post before banning. no time limit.

doubling back to the auto-killfiling anyone you FP, couldn't disagree more. SB being downgraded to FP, whatever its flaws, makes it about the post not the poster. good posters can make terrible posts though it is comparatively rare I guess

Sensible words from Sheldon Casino.

My beautiful thread all ruined by a disgusting display of human kindness ;_;

Lol that old chestnut about SB changing when it was renamed

Turrican kept on reiterating a phrase that ties into struggles I've had and family have had outside of here and that really bothered me.

But I still got time for him and think flappy is awesome

lol @ everyone being expected to know every posters personal history.

(I remain clueless as to who flappy is, or turrican for that matter but eh ILM is an alien desert to me)

I dunno about 31 or whatever guys but can we acknowledge that something needs to happen with ilx because....I mean...it's fucking awful now

Or I mean don't u think?

we need to recruit new posters

Well yes that is part of it yes

also ban donald trump

If its fucking awful now, you're still here why exactly?

Boredom sheer boredom

i don't think it's awful.

deems stays in this relationship out of love. he's irish and sentimental.

I like the threads I post to.

xp no true irishman

I don’t want to autokillfile anyone I fp, I want to auto fp anyone I killfile, because I don’t want to have to see their shite in order to fp them.

But there’s really just one in particular right now who everyone else is naming so maybe we’ll get that one pretty soon. Worse than geir I think

the will's not there I think. if it was gonna happen it would have happened

Unban Dom

I missed having this discussion. I see everybody has really reflected on their positions and is in listening mode now, well done all, for a while I thought the anti-banning crowd were rigid ideologues who'd wholly immunized themselves against discourse

the next best thing to fp would be if everyone just ignored the shitposts leaving a trail of droppings to step around instead of “engaging “ them which just gets you too covered in shit

I also must have disengaged enough from the general life of the board as to have NO idea why people are saying it's so awful. I'm here several times a day I feel like it's pretty ok? Easy enough to avoid shitty threads?

The shitposts > the mediocre posts it's like when Michelle Pfeiffer is the teacher and you know by the end it's the real stinker of a pupil you'll be rooting for

yeah I have no complaints really, existing fp process seems to be working fine.

and this place doesn't seem nearly as hostile/full of unrepentant assholes as it used to be 10+ years ago

xp

Well look let's not go there

we’re just more subtly about how we phrase things

the word "shitpost" is one of the worst things about the present era and its use should be met with Stalinesque vigor

Your horse, it is high

I thought this thread was mostly ppl wondering why the thread was made in the first place

Plus turrican bashing

"Shitposting" is actually the perfect term for my posting style, really

the word "shitpost" is one of the worst things about the present era and its use should be met with Stalinesque vigor

― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, November 1, 2017 7:03 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ON THE MF MONEY

i HATE this phrase

Love is a shitpost, to quote a phrase

Are yiz angry at 'shitpost' or angry at shitposting if the former unjust question your priorities

yeah i'm against whatever the phrase describes but it makes my skin crawl, i hate it, i hate that it's become ubiquitous so quickly

shitpost just has the wrong mouthfeel

lol

ok now im dizzy

i also dislike shitpost, it sounds so angry and entitled

it isn't a phrase, though. we can agree on this at least?

it's a compound neologism

Explaimless vmic

it seemed more positive than "not a phrase"

lol i see we're getting a lot done here

It was. Just throwing in a little compound neologism of my own. An onimologism.

I would categorize yours as more of a portmanteau neologism, but let's not permit a little disagreement like that to come between us, ok?

entitled? everyone shit(post)s

the people have already spoken on the issue of banning vs laissez fair/anarchic hands off modding

https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=100687

you have to recognize when lag∞n is just having bad ideas

smh mods the people have spoken

People forget about this moment of executive overreach.

I haven’t forgotten.

I read a couple of other sites where people have weighed in revealing some of our ‘funny’ ex-members as real-life abusers, and conversely some ppl who left really are pretty chill and I wish them well, so the system works well enough

I’ll tell lagoon

he knows and is ok

and if not I think I know where he’s at and I have vacay days to go hang and tell him irl

keep everyone banned it maintains the fiction that they still want to post here, if they could

― ≖_≖ (Lamp), Wednesday, October 1, 2014 11:44 AM (three years ago)

although i really like this take from lamp, this does make us look pretty cool

otm

eek I am sorry about my diction I just wanted to turrican bash. ilx is mostly good these days but the exceptions glare

honestly I have little sympathy for people complaining about awful posters on threads about The Beatles or U.S. Politics. It goes with the territory.

it's like complaining about displays of autism on a year-end poll thread

If both jclc and estela refuse to endorse shitpost as a term then it is hereby rescinded

it's like complaining about displays of autism on a year-end poll thread

wow this is, like, a bullshit way to put that

"shitpost" IS shorter than "post where someone claims the last 4 Tarantino movies were good"

turrican should be forced to change his display name because "turrican 2" is such an awesome game i can't bring myself to hate him no matter how much stupid shit he posts

unban guybrush threepwood

Keep on Turrican'

rusho otm, turrican ii rules

it's like complaining about displays of autism on a year-end poll thread

― sarahell, Thursday, November 2, 2017 3:29 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wow this is, like, a bullshit way to put that

― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, November 2, 2017 7:14 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agreed.

Yes. Kind of a shithttp://www.interactivetraining.co.uk/images/symbols/space_margin.gifpost.

some posters have a terminal case of uncorrectable edginess, they are just so out there and not easily constrained within the narrow confines of this pc nonsense etc....

there are many legitimate complaints to make against sarahell but i don't think that's among them.

She does have history of thinking the R-word is big + clever, I've f'ped her a few times.

There are no legitimate complaints against sarahell. We shouldn’t chase away our few remaining distinctive posters.

sarahell is a great poster and ilx wouldnt be the same without her but that was a dumb post imo

srsly. if you guys get rid of sarahell i'm out of here. losing nakh wasn't enough???

there are legitimate complaints about every poster

exactly, nobody is getting chased anywhere. People can exercise their moaning /fp privileges without folk screaming "witch hunt!".

if the complaints are legitimate, ilx has ways to try and shut that whole situation down iirc

No legit complaints about me, iirc? I'm perfect.

Perfect.

I've been locked inside your lunch-shaped box for weeks

maybe it's time for a New Lunch

read my lips: no new lunches

where's that ilxor mashup thread? we just invented Nude Lunch

that's my favourite burroughs book

that's the joke

innaresting

makes u think

that's the joke. 'innaresting' 'making u think' was the joke. you did it again.

it's like complaining about displays of autism on a year-end poll thread
― sarahell

wow this is, like, a bullshit way to put that
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi)

agreed.

― mod

Yeah, completely agreed on this. Not gonna FP sarahell as she's generally awesome, but this is very much not okay.

(disagree on 'shitposting' as a term, though, it's perfectly descriptive.)

that's the joke. 'innaresting' 'making u think' was the joke. you did it again.

not gonna lie, this made me think

omg stop posting the joke!

that's the joke

it most certainly was. you had me trapped. and that was the joke. the joke you just posted.

IDGI

O wait now IGI

steely resolve

there are legitimate complaints about every poster

Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:54 PM I Love Music Thread: Crystal Castles (rule) had its title updated to: Crystal Castles

haha

oh, non-funny reasons

a swing and a miss

Unnaresting

sry that post was in honor of banned edgelord sarahell, rip

seriously though, what would have been a non-bullshit way to summarize and refer to complaints about said behavior? I honestly didn't intend that to be an "edgy" word choice

autism is a real thing and using it as a zing against ppl whose content or posting style you dislike is offensive. i also FP any reference to asperger's done in this way, for the same reason. thankfully i feel like, as with the r-word, they've been on the decline around these parts. good poster, bad post.

No, I was using it to describe content and posting styles that resemble behavior of someone on the Autism Spectrum. No like/dislike involved. Just descriptive.

51 is a mystical number
change it at your own peril
this is what the ancients of ilx decreed

I'm apologizing because I can see now how it could easily be interpreted as a pejorative, zingy post ... even though I didn't intend it as a pejorative, just as a description

For me, I don't think of obsessive, list-making behaviour as stereotypically "autistic" - particularly as understanding of the spectrum (and gender differences within it) has developed, it doesn't ring true, and seems reductive to the point of offensiveness. Putting it on a thread like this definitely makes it read as a zingy put-down, but even if it were somewhere else I'd still feel very uneasy about it.

Also the dual edge of pathologising personality traits/diminishing difficulties that people with disorders actually have to live with. It's just... not good.

(I'm sure other people can put this stuff better than me, but those are the things that stick out to me.)

I could put it better but perhaps let's keep the peace

:)

For me, I don't think of obsessive, list-making behaviour as stereotypically "autistic"

it has historically been stereotyped this way on ilx. that's what I was referring to.

and my point was merely, to complain about "obsessive, list-making behaviour" in the context of a thread where people make lists and then compile them and discuss the results, is a bit absurd. And I have been guilty of that complaining in the past, and I am aware of the absurdity of my past behavior.

/For me, I don't think of obsessive, list-making behaviour as stereotypically "autistic"/

it has historically been stereotyped this way on ilx. that's what I was referring to.

How many fucking layers

i guess "obsessive", "trainspottery", "filing", "stamp-collecting", "nerdy" i use in different contexts to try and do the job of describing compulsive nit-picky cataloguing but none of them are perfect. something to do with Pokemons might work. or killing butterflies.

"nobjectivism" might have some mileage

I like 'anal gazing' myself.

I like Strindberg's phrase to describe his own nobjectivism, 'knappologi' (trans. 'buttonology').

it's like walking up to a buffet table and saying "this looks like some food for diabetics!"

I like 'anal gazing' myself.

As blank and pitiless as the sun

mmm slow thighs

Sorry to break topic here, and excuse my ignorance, but— does the flagged poster receive any sort of notice when they have been flagged?

I've never received any such thing myself, so maybe I've never been flagged. But, I think a notification system for when one has been flagged would be of some sort of use. Kind of as a semi-polite way of saying, "Hey, cut it out."

Did you receive like eight or nine notifications just now? Hang on, let me try again.

iirc mods sometimes email people when they are approaching 51, but it's been done case-by-case

my suggestion is to keep the 51 number, but allow each of us to have two active FPs on any given poster, instead of one.

No, you don't receive a notification - you can post on the "request my SB/FP number" thread and if a mod's around they can tell you how many you've got (this isn't really an officially mod-sanctioned thread but it's also not frowned upon as far as I'm aware). The mods will also message you if you're approaching 51, but at that point it should probably be relatively clear from other posters what you've done that's been riling people.

xp with sleeve

I may not have agreed in every instance, but approximately zero of the instances where someone was 51-ed and banned have been surprising. Unless you're super un-self-aware, I would guess you'd probably know when it's at least a likelihood.

my third was kind of 'et tu brute'

forgot it was 3, i assume that's the record and likely to remain so

should probably change the number from 51 to 23

153 is a very holy number

i thought whiney had 4, or are you tied

No, I was using it to describe content and posting styles that resemble behavior of someone on the Autism Spectrum. No like/dislike involved. Just descriptive.

the spectrum is broad (that's why the term "spectrum" was brought into use) & calling things "autistic" is reductive, dismissive, and offensive, and I hope you'll reconsider your position on using it in this way.

it's like walking up to a buffet table and saying "this looks like some food for diabetics!"

― mh, Thursday, 2 November 2017 19:20 (three hours ago) Permalink

is it bad that this makes me lol

I read a couple of other sites where people have weighed in revealing some of our ‘funny’ ex-members as real-life abusers

Is this just going to pass by uncommented on, then?

^^^^^ otm

one of them has been brought up here in the past, not much point in relitigating

they're permabanned, and the accusation was exactly zero surprise

relevant search terms?

What kind of abuse are we talkin about here

I'd like to know that. Stop the shady stuff.

Also we can give Sarahell a break now; she apologized and explained, that's that imho.

I looked for the link again recently but couldn’t find it, basically someone on m3tafilter mentioned in reference to DP that she dated him and he was an abusive pos

Rhymes with Pom Dassatino?

IchLugeMullets

yes, in case it wasn’t obvious

Well theres another D(J)P around here, didnt want him inadvertently sullied

DJP is most certainly not an ex-poster

This is fine

I sometimes get my flappy birds, flopsons and frogbs confused, one of them is a YMO stan.

present

I am not gonna lie, the first thought that crossed my mind when I read mh's post was "shit, if I ever leave then Domcrimes are gonna follow me around like an albatross"

your crimes are fun and music/liquor/pun related, completely different ballgame

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

that's the joke

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

that's kismet, or something

31 got 31'd

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/684086060847083525/Zt8xO8iK.png

Righteous

seriously 51 is not working

it’s working fine. start a “ban poster” thread if you need to

can't - writer's block :(

Who is DC trying to ban?

prob JB

Not trying for a ban so much as praying for one.

don’t have to write, just copy/paste a list of links to really shit posts and put them in an admin request thread

don’t have to write an essay of justification

Who’s JB?

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/08/05/us/05onfire1_xp/05onfire1_xp-facebookJumbo.jpg

??

Maybe ILM is exploding again. The rest of ILX seems to be pretty tolerable atm. Surely one could cavil at a few posts, but no conflagrations in sight.

Think it's because Ronan criticised cat ppl then overtalked the thread where are the mods ffs

cat people ain't got no reason to live

randy newman has much to answer for

oh. I've been trying to stay away from the sexual politics threads lately, both for my own sanity and for the greater comfort of the participants.

As I was saying...

If ILX has become an intolerable hellhole recently due to insufficient banning, it has escaped my notice.

Well a poster corrected someone’s spelling in a thread about a personal tragedy that befell them so

Not more hellholish than it used to be/ The numbers have changed tho.

wtf xp

not really sure where else to post this without feeling awkward, but: our house on lawton street caught fire last week. my roommate's room, our kitchen and living room were totally wiped out, ditto the upstairs kitchen and living room, and every bedroom in the house got at least some measure of smoke and water damage. everybody has had to move out and is in the process of extracting and trying to clean/save anything not blatantly soaked and sooted to the bone. this has not really been very fun in a lightless house with face masks and headlamps. the worst thing of all is that our cat passed away of smoke inhalation, which i really don't even want to talk about. we're hoping it was quick and relatively painless.

i say all this as a preamble to, there is a gofundme for all us housemates (save Shuj4 H41d3r who lived downstairs of me - if you follow him on twitter you know he got his act together sooner to set up a fundraiser [plus had separate additional expenses to deal with] and has also shared this one). i hardly would ask any of y'all internet cats here to donate but please consider sharing, and more in the spirit of ILX, coming out to the bar-room fundraisers this friday! happy hour at marcos (broadway & malcolm x) from 2 to 8 followed by band showcase at The Gateway from 8:00 on. come have a drink, bring your friends, spread the word! i will be the frequently unshaven man wearing stupid hipster aviator glasses.

― Doctor Casino, Thursday, March 1, 2018 11:46 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jeezus Doc, what a bummer. hope things go well, fast!

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, March 1, 2018 11:50 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sorry about your losses. Someone on your page should probably spell Rafael Espinal's name correctly.

― Moo Vaughn, Thursday, March 1, 2018 11:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^ gets it

that's a heartbreaking story. stay strong Dr. C!

best wishes to you Dr Casino!

Thoughts Dr c

If, which is I think unlikely, you're casually checking out fp threads

mods i beg u

real talk: are there 51 ilxors remaining in total

if there are there fucking shouldnt be

31 for turrican, 51 for everyone else

Good compromise.

First they came from the Turricans, and I did not speak out because I was not a Turrican.
Then they came for Fred B.

oh theres nobody we're missing there huh

Let's all move to mastodon, the new happy place.

I set up a mastodon account & am following no one

Everyone gets to issue one permaban with no appeal. Last one left'll be the mod with all the alts. It'd clean this joint up in a hot minute.

Ogmor otm!

xp itd be just me, you and the modhead a la good bad and ugly

First they came from the Turricans, and I did not speak out because I was not a Turrican.
Then they came for Fred B.

― Matt DC, 17. august 2018 11:05 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They came for me a year and a half ago, mate. Nobody cared. And honestly it wasn't that big of a deal.

You should get a 24 hour ban any time you are FPed 9 times within a 1-hour window

I think the way Turrican has (miraculously) survived so far is by *posting intensively only occasionally and only in certain specialist threads and posting blandly and uncontroversially in lots of others the rest of the time - even I don't mind him when he does that. Also he only posts on ILM, I doubt he would survive long if he posted anywhere else. I think I'm right in saying Turrican only survived his last scare because his FPs were widely distributed and some were now considered 'out of date' - I don't how that mechanism works. Fred has made mistake in the past of posting intensively more frequently in threads that were well populated and were about something more profound than what guitars George Harrison played on "Abbey Road" - thus running up a lot of FPs in a shorter period.

(*for 'posting' here read 'annoying people')

i wouldn't say nobody cared fred, at least 51 people did. good to know that having a large portion of the active positing population here wanting you to be forcibly prevented from posting has not chastened you at all tho.

he must still be polling strong wtih the base

.....

leave fred alone tbh

yes. #teamfred

make a tearful video & i'll think about it

i've defended fred recently, my quip wasn't meant to imply i wanted him to leave

i dont think fred is too worried about what a fake treezy sock says

lol

i am a mod

Can't believe some ppl want to abolish the HOT TAKE

i am a mod

― Trϵϵship, 17. august 2018 17:09 (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I AM AN IIIIIIISLAND

and a mod feels no pain

I kno the truth about nouveau treesh

And the truth will set u fr

ϵϵ

I'm honestly loving my epsilons. Should have stylized my name like this from the start.

http://members.tripod.com/~redrooster_2/mods.jpeg

"nouveau treesh" is nice work

fred has been a better poster since his ban imho

Treesh have i ever told u u hav beautiful epsilons

Theyre the perfect size

Objectifying treesh's epsilons is nagl, fp-ed you imo.

€ k by me

fred has been a better poster since his ban imho

he's definitely the smartest person on the US politics thread. Even he thinks so!

fred has been a better poster since his ban imho

― mortal kombats fill your eyes (Doctor Casino), 17. august 2018 18:01 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean, thank you, but you should probably wait a bit on that judgment until midterm election is over...

U got it, Flagerick P

MY NAME ISN'T SPELLED WITH A 'CK'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #º€%&!#"!#

Ugh, that's so irritating. Your name is right there for people to reference. Sorry you had to deal with that, Fraderrink.

ok lol

he's definitely the smartest person on the US politics thread. Even he thinks so!

― Οὖτις, Friday, 17 August 2018 16:10 (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that joyous statement was in a very specific context, most will not have been aware of it but you certainly are, so this seems in bad faith

honestly, that post brought joy to everyone idk why people want to make frederik feel bad about it

oh so now you're speaking on issues of faith?

the tables have turned

it was magnificent xp

idgi mh

footnote to a prior discussion, nbd

no man

you had yr dig

lets hear it

*crowd silences*

geez everyone's in a fighting mood these days

Say that to my fists, son.

(Sorry, my dad taught me that one.)

yr dad

his fists had....ears?

They had names, why not ears as well

You should get a 24 hour ban any time you are FPed 9 times within a 1-hour window

― faculty w1fe (silby),

otm

Be careful what you wish for (FPs tlg for the fifteenth time this hour).

sorry about that, Fråd

It's Fræd!

(It's literally pronounced that way, rather than with an English e. Frætheræk)

now i'm learning something!

Good work lads

This thread is a nice balance to the gongshow happening in the y ppl leev ilks thraedism

what is the mushy ae supposed to sound like? like in encyclop(ae)dia? freethereek?

lol, that looks like a hashtag from that season of Game of Thrones where Theon got castrated.

Like the 'ea' in 'thread' or 'dead'

... or like the "e" in "Fred"

surely if you pronounce it in Danish the vowel sound of the first e is more like the a in "pat"

wait... so it sounds exactly like an english E

or do other english accents pronounce the E in "med" different from the ea in "dead"? i am perplexed

xp lol

as is the i

and the middle e like the e in "the"

I think fratherrack comes closer

i'm afræd of Danes

dønt bæ

(who hæte the Intercept)

Yeah, it's just a bit darker.

Whan that aprille with his shoures soote

googles a suitable reference worth noting that English has around 15 vowel sounds, whereas well-organized languages tend to get by with 5 or 6. The choice of vowel sound to use in many words also tends to vary by region.

nice overview of AmE vowels with an ESL perspective http://ocw.uci.edu/upload/files/vowels.pdf

'well-organized languages'

Yeah, this isn't Danish, lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stød

wow, morphological vocal fry

googles a suitable reference worth noting that English has around 15 vowel sounds, whereas well-organized languages tend to get by with 5 or 6. The choice of vowel sound to use in many words also tends to vary by region.

― faculty w1fe (silby), Friday, August 17, 2018 1:56 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

where i grew up you were lucky if you heard two different vowel sounds, mostly it was just a growl and then kind of another louder growl

I think the Danes had quite a bit of influence on the development of English.

these vowels all got imported from somewhere that's for sure

Will M., raised by wolves

xp

No that's Noodle Vague you're thinking of there.

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article10543439.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Wolverhampton-Wanderers-Unveil-New-Manager-Nuno-Espirito-Santo.jpg

gosh he looked so young 12 months ago

Let me see if I have the pronunciation of Frederik down now, is it this

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91uvLOmmyxL._SY550_.jpg

That's Swedish, and after being called out for calling Ireland part of the 'British Isles' I'm really not in a mood to be confused with those ässhöles. Jüst stöp it!

if denmark is so great, why does Dane (almost) rhyme with LAME

https://data.whicdn.com/images/253994130/original.gif

Had no idea 'croonchy' was a real word. ILX teaches me new things every day!

if denmark is so great, why does Dane (almost) rhyme with LAME

― Trϵϵship, 17. august 2018 21:09 (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Because those who invented English were racist.

(cue deej: 'Danish is not a race!')

after being called out for calling Ireland part of the 'British Isles'

heh, was this what prompted that poll

pretty good comeback fred xp

https://media.giphy.com/media/xT0GqdzIPUeojOf9Yc/giphy.gif

after being called out for calling Ireland part of the 'British Isles'

heh, was this what prompted that poll

― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), 17. august 2018 21:18 (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol, didn't you know that? Yeah, it's on the 'British literature is shit' thread, which again was prompted by a remark of mine on the 'British cinema is shit' thread, and at that point I'd probably shat enough on, um, 'the wet and foggy isles west of glorious Jutland', was that what we ended up agreeing to?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQyuKHiPMdI

what is our consensus on the worst nationality?

Because those who invented English were racist.

Isn't Jutland in Denmark anyway?

frankly i thought we should never have left europe, i was agin it

xp american

american on the internet

Sorry, Denmark is in Jutland rather.

'the wet and foggy isles west of glorious Jutland'

def voting for this poll option, just rolls right off the tongue

Or Denmark is Jutland? Expect some of it's in Germany. I think.

jutland is part of denmark

Is Denmark part of Germany

i lived in copenhagen for a few months so i think i know more about denmark than anyone else on ilx. ask me anything.

denmark is in fact part of germany

denmark is the northern six counties of germany

jeez fuckin yanks

what is our consensus on the worst nationality?

― Trϵϵship, 17. august 2018 21:23 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, sorry but it's definitely American. And we could make a poll about it, but it would be ruined by the Americans.

Because they ruin everything.

I suppose it's called Jutland because it juts out. Has to be. Frætheræk?

excuse me while I ruin æverything

fair, although america has produced a whole lot of globally beloved music over the past century xp

That's what they used to say about Germany.

There’s no way Americans are worse than British Islanders

obama era will be known in time as weimarica iml

lads lads take it to the disgusting savages thræd

Isn't a Denmark a kind of money?

(Internet Americans are definitely the worst nationality, I concur.)

You’re thinking of weregeld

Frætheræk - I think that's how they pronounce it in most of Scotland tbh.

I suppose it's called Jutland because it juts out. Has to be. Frætheræk?

― Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), 17. august 2018 21:30 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's because it's the land of the 'judes' or 'juthes' or 'iuthær' as it was spelled in the middle ages.

I was born in Jutland as well, and, true story, I used to think 'Hey Jude' was about people like me.

Frederik, check your email.

lol

lol what

Someone's done for Fred! Infamy!

i really liked jutland when i visited fwiw. aarhus was a fun city and the countryside was pretty surreal in terms of just how many acres of snow there was in all directions

want a fræth in the morning, trϵϵsh in the evening
just like meeee

Be careful what you wish for (FPs tlg for the fifteenth time this hour).

― Melted Belts, Priced To Move (Old Lunch)

i can think of at least one personal interaction i've had on ILX during the past week that would have played out very differently - for better or worse - if we had a cooling-off mechanism like this

That or fitting all users with some sort of genital-shocking contraption would really do wonders for this place, I feel.

keep your weird sexual fantasies to yrself please

it gets turned off if you get tok many FPs

Good to see that someone gets me.

Someones, I should say.

How many ppl is tlg

i contain multitudes

this thread is interesting because when I flag posts it is because I think the post itself is objectionable, contains objectionable language, etc., and then the expectation is that the individual post is deleted but the poster is not advanced up some kind of fifty-strikes-you're-out-no-questions-asked scale.

this seems very...unintuitive. especially since the flag post screen tells you are flagging the *post* for attention of the moderators

Yeah it’s a fiction unfortunately.

Used to be called suggest ban before my day. That seemed a clearer term.

I’m not sure we need that much more moderation though idk. My friend moderates a massive subreddit and she is constantly rooting out hateful, hateful stuff that ilx luckily doesn’t seem to have much of.

well a) we're an increasingly shrinking and insular circle, and b) really hateful stuff will almost always get modded and banned without FP coming into play

it's true

has someone checked on fred? that "check your email" message was p ominous

was that happening a lot when i was gone? ppl get that message from a mod and then vanish without a trace from ilx/irl?

yes

Usually, could be a warning that he's getting close to the limit.

darragh got emailed by the modsock and next thing we knew he’d been replaced with an exact replica

the mod aint been anointed yet that can @ this

flag posts can't stick to the wind

in all seriousness "let someone's posts stand unhindered without warning or action until 51 people dislike them" seems like an extremely dysfunctional way to moderate... anything

how long have you been posting to ilx?!

this is not how it works

if a post is actionable you get a mod to action it

if you want the poster banned for an accumulation of offences flag the post

this has been done in about forty threads

like

deej hasnt done anything bannable

but very soon hes likely going to be 51'd for i dunno the fourth time

its a good system

again, though, this seems very counterintuitive, because the link says Flag Post and the text says "Confirming this will flag the post for the attention of the moderators," so I guess I've been using this wrong for years

if you want a Referendum on Person button then the text should probably be changed to reflect that

yeah they fucked it up when they changed the wording without changing anything else

hilariously, ppl were delighted with the wallpaper change

im as confused as you about it

I'm at a loss as to what Fred did to get banned this time around...?

that was weird

I p much only fp for egregiously racist/anti-semitic stuff, it's not that often really

pretty sure Fred isn't banned and don't see why he'd be close altho i don't really read US politics threads tbf

i don't think posters like fred or deej should ever be banned

fred hasnt been banned

egregiously racist etc stuff is grounds for banning separately to the "you cant blame mods for this but you know you were shitacting" of fp

you ppl

(the system also makes me hesitant because I can easily see a situation where people decide to flag someone just because they personally don't like them. it's less likely with 51 people but that's only because of the scale of this place, 51 people is nothing for, say, twitter)

i take your point Treesh but let's not revive the whole "to SB or not to SB" debate here

Twitter also has this system and it's easily abused by hordes of extremely online nazis~ xp

srsly this has all been done

nobody has ever been 51d just because ppl decided not to like them

again....youve been on ilx for some years......
......... is this stuff srsly new to you now?

srsly this has all been done

nobody has ever been 51d just because ppl decided not to like them

again....youve been on ilx for some years......
......... is this stuff srsly new to you now?

nice

ilx is a flat circle

i don't think posters like fred or deej should ever be banned

you might've missed some stuff - sometimes ppl need to take a break

this is the first time I have heard of this, yes

i think when the system was first implemented katherine 51 was a sufficient number so that it wasn't about people "personally" disliking somebody but that if somebody made enough posts that annoyed enough people the board wasn't made worse by them taking a break for a month or two.

i think banning should be reserved for people like that guy l4rry 4appl3t0n who make people super uncomfortable

the system mostly works but it can be very slow sometimes.

fairly recently we had a couple of longtime regular posters permabanned (and never to return) by the mods before they hit 51, at least one of them had it coming for a very long time.

there was another longtime regular who was banned, then returned after 30 days, and has seemingly left. though it should have been a mod permaban in the first place, it was another one that would have been deserved.

^^^all of these were related to men being habitually unable to not be creepy about women.

oh and adam bruneau self-permabanned recently. not sure what broke him, but he did seem to have some issues with The Last Jedi that may have destroyed him.

larry apps was imo harmless compared to others who were given a longer leash but ymmv

"posters lik x or y should never be banned" is a statement so facile as to be utterly useless

poster x should be banned if they behave like asses long enough tlor badly enough to get 51d

totally respect other posters differing opinions about this too but it's very hard to point to an example of somebody being 51'd when they hadn't been pretty antagonistic to a broad circle of posters for a reasonable period of time

xp well theres a lot to argue with in all of that omar im not even gonna start tbh

it just seems like there should be some middle ground in moderation between nothing and month-ban

If dom would just be unbanned...

Wait no

Noodle Vague is correct imo

(that nothing isn't "week ban" or "day ban," it's something like moderators stepping in and temporarily locking a thread)

Speaking as someone who got a 6 day tempban for offensive socking i can attest such middle ground exists

xp

but then one idiot in theory could stop a bunch of non-idiots in mid conversation?

Problem is other people start a thread called WHYD U LOCK THE THREAD U IMMORAL NAZI GOEBBELS MODS

it just seems like there should be some middle ground in moderation between nothing and month-ban

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 20:58 (twenty-four seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

mods can do all and everything they could before fp came in about a decade ago, and sometimes they will step in with deletions or a tempban but tbh ive not seen the likes in some time

who are we talkin about here omar? xp

was this all in the past six months when i was living in seclusion among the wolves?

mods can do all and everything they could before fp came in about a decade ago, and sometimes they will step in with deletions or a tempban but tbh ive not seen the likes in some time

this is completely bizarre to me, like going to the doctor and being told "you sprained your wrist but we're not going to do anything about it, come back when you have heart failure or something"

well you seem to be talking about a specific instance where you didn't like a conversation that was happening

tbh mods shouldn't react to that imo

i think an over-modded board would be really bad and would have a chilling effect

They don't always know what's happening in every thread immediately either.

Which is why they ask for posts in MRF

Threads get locked under egregious circumstances. I don't think we are anywhere near that rn.

[I can easily see a situation where people decide to flag someone just because they personally don't like them.

The idea behind the 51 was precisely so that a small clique couldn't control who was banned, due to personal beefs or bullying. It was meant to require a broad sample of ilx sentiment that a poster had crossed lines into unacceptable territory. It isn't perfect, but it does tend to work as designed.

The suggestion to reduce the number to 31 was valid enough for discussion and become appropriate as numbers of ilxors dwindle. We should probably poll it periodically, maybe annually.

As for the change from "suggest ban" to "flag post", I don't recall the change giving rise to any particular delight, but rather a lot of confusion, followed by a moderate amount of ridicule when it became obvious that nothing had changed but the nomenclature.

i think an over-modded board would be really bad and would have a chilling effect

as opposed to the chilling effect of people who are put off by the lack of moderation

like

theres fuck all happens around here that mods need to react to

and a case being made that even with this total lack of controversial or objectionable content, the mods should somehow be more active..

i dunno. seems like we're back to a conversation about what ilx is

which leads to a conversation about what it uses to be

and nowadays thats a load of posters who arent rly very good ilxors (inc yrs truly) taking lazy halfremembered potshots about very good former ilxors because ilx used to be great and mean and now its neither

A couple posters were banned because of a Swans beef that devolved into some “interesting” opinions on women, though the more egregious one was also pretty much stalking an ILXor across board over another weird issue.

That was a pretty long time ago, at least a year maybe?

I don't understand why "great" has to be synonymous with "mean." I deal with enough meanness in my day-to-day life and I really don't need any more of it

you have turned "and" into "synonymous" and that is not an innocent manoeuvre imo

it seemed to be implied

if it wasn't implied I apologize but it very much seemed to be and it isn't the first time I've seen a "this board used to be better when people weren't so nice" type sentiment

it wasnt!

now, thats not to say it wasnt more to my personal taste

and tbh i think losing one has affected the other

but no i dont think it was synonymous for the purposes of my point

deems likes the kind of entertainment supplied by meanness, when it is inventive meanness. old-ilx was often mean in inventive and colorful style. it suited his tastes better than present day ilx suits him. but ilx persists and he still arrives every day to punch in.

all I can say to that is this kind of personal taste completely baffles me and I'm completely incapable of understanding the worldview of someone who wants that

anyways

fp

it works for what its meant to do

but i dont know if mods would ever have locked that thread today at amy stage of ilx

and if they had done, it would have caused ructions

funny that we flag drunk posts for moderation

xxp

im not here to defend it tbh

and park in the driveway

there's also a complicated relationship between civility and quality of posts. it's *possible* that if nobody is allowed to call anybody else a numbskull then the numbskull population might run out of control

(given that we all have numbskullery within us)

To prevent numbskullery you just need to educate and lead by example and lead a blameless life like I do

i think Jesus is a historical example of how that attitude just attracts numbskulls tbh

whereas a lot of Zen masters seem to have inculcated wisdom in their apprentices by judicious application of a big stick

jesus crucified atop golgotha or numbskull mountain

"forgive them Father, for they are numbskulls"

anyway

mods

51 is too high we used to have 40 good posters now we have 4 the new number should therefore be 5

Lol

That would be a bloodbath

the bark would fly

but not in the organized, purposeful way that your name implies

Wonder how many people are on 5 or more at any given time

I think i have historically had at least five whenever i checked in

you probably know where that ended up. good to have you back.

I wasn’t banned

I self-banned for the second time after making quite the scene

i know. was talking about copying your post to the out of context thread.

Ah

I suspect I am at least halfway to 51 by this point

I doubt you’re at 10

I suspect most people reserve fps for extremely offensive posts, don't recall anyone getting banned for a bit of bickering

xp yeah you have to actively try pretty hard to get close to 30 iirc

I mean I definitely didn’t until now, I’ve flagged a lot of posts under the impression I was just flagging a post for review and potential deletion, not voting for a ban. it’s what the button says, after all

Some people are promiscuous with them but getting to 51 is still a feat

tbf 26 is not at 10. but I doubt katherine has any fps.

don't know Trϵϵship's history but really like their posts. katherine's too. so please don't stop posting, either of you

I'm not promiscuous I'm generous

Any??

Xp

The particular clusterfuck we've been discussing today isn't close to being the ugliest argument in the past week.

She definitely has a few like all decent posters do

I doubt you’re at 10

otm

this is completely bizarre to me, like going to the doctor and being told "you sprained your wrist but we're not going to do anything about it, come back when you have heart failure or something"

mods used to be way more obvious, but a) ILX is less rambunctious now and b) it was realised about ten years ago that modding quietly caused fewer shitstorms re: modding

out-and-out trolls do get removed by mod action

a bunch of FPs on one post will also raise mod attention & discussion, it's not a fully automated SB system

if ppl want a post edited or deleted, MRF is still there and used regularly, and has been for about 16 years

as deems keeps saying, this has been litigated in literally thousands of posts over the last decade

xp you fp'd katherine, is how i'm reading this situation

id be suprised if anyone currently posting had more than 40 and tbh anyone near that is deej, fred and meself maybe

probly lj too obv

sic otm is a meme by now but sic otm

nu-LJ for sure isn close to 40

We should make a pool though

theres twenty posters minimum dont post anymore but have 6 month reminders to log in and fp lj i dont agree with it but its true

What a spectacular career it’s been for l0u15

he's perhaps the one exception to *actively* annoying tbfttl. sometimes.

ilx always refers to the early work innit

tbfttl google search only brings up porn sites

wouldn't be happy at all if lj stopped posting

LJ runs a network of tbfttl porn sites. I don’t agree with it but it’s true

lol

lol I thought you meant googling lj's monicker only brought up porn sites for a minute

3.1 should be the new 51 with some of the fuckheads here

(waits for sic to attack)

Each fp its worth 1 not .01

I mean, once you’re a full member and get your platinum card and satin jacket obv

fundraising comes round again soon....perks start at ten bucks iirc

Oh man, the airline miles have been a godsend for me this year

And i love my ten speed bike

the flag posts of ppl who the mods don't like are not registered and ones they do like are set to 2x value true story

you jest but there was a bug whereby anyone banned from a subboard didnt have their sb buttons count for a good few months iirc

juicy

man was the church ever not worth losing sb privs for

Yeah can't remember where I got my sub board ban but that was a painful time

The biggest flaw in the SB/FP system afaict is that I've been allowed to post here for like a decade and a half with no repercussions, how tight a ship can this even be really.

be good to go out in a blaze of glory but no targets now rly

old lunch somewhat otm

have given old lunch a few efpy awards

(ehbubadeesaybubadeeyon)

I aiiiiiiiiiin't got noooooooboooooooooooody

(tho tbh ill prob just take a glass of whatever goes with the meal)

I feel bad now. I've never actually fp'd the old lunch.

FALCON PUNCH

Hadouken

give the harkonnen a blade

51 is a joke. You need to get anywhere need it -- you just have to piss off one of the "right" users or mods (or one of octopus mod's many tentacles) and you're timed out.

oh good, another county heard from

I’ve reread my own posts a day later and thought “wow, that guy seems like an anxious mess who doesn’t need to be litigating a vague nothing on the internet” and flagged my own post.

I mean, sometimes it’s people being outright dicks or doing ban-worthy things like outright racism and misogyny. Other times, it’s recognizing that someone’s kind of messed up right now and could use a break

like when the bartender at your local cuts you off after two beers and says “hey buddy, I don’t think you need another drink, why not go home and get some rest”
not too many of those bartenders out there but it’s nice when it happens

I can handle more than two beers; ilx can handle some prickly characters such as deej and turrican.

there are reasons we’re on this side of the bar

I wouldn't put deej and turrican together - very unfair on deej.

That’s true but this whole thing was enflamed by mr. d-40. To be fair though no one called for his ban

poor turrican

Both of them could probably do just fine as bartenders though

deej yes, turrican no way.

No, mh and i

I’d be a great bartender mod.

can we drop the rather pocket-sized events of yesterday that got pulled into another dimension of headache across multiple threads and just get back to wondering wtf Turrican’s personality disorder is

No, that's unkind, I hate his online persona but he's probably OK irl... I hope.

i've groaned at turrican many a time, maybe more than any other poster who's gotten under my skin, but good people on this board have taught me that throwing around "personality disorder" is a bad look and unkind; i'd politely ask that you walk that one back.

Yeah, I'm glad the other convo has settled down, but I don't think the best alternative is to endlessly drag a different poster.

Yes “cunt” is not a personality disorder

I apologize for that phrasing

Like Tom, I assume he’s normal and interacts that way because he genuinely can’t help himself