This life's HARD man, but it's HARDER if you're stupid! aka CRIME/MYSTERY/THRILLER/NOIR movie POLL nominations thread

please nominate as many films as you think fit in this category. I am keeping this pretty open. Within these parameters, obviously gangster films can be included though I'm hoping for a top ten that isn't strictly Academy Award winning mob movies and so on...

To cite examples of films, I'm going to nominate a few to start off with:

The Friends of Eddie Coyle
The Last Seduction
Kiss Me Deadly
Le Doulos
One False Move

please argue with each other and yell at me about the rules, even though none really exist.

I'm putting out the bat signal for:

max
s1ocki
hungry4ass
horseshoe
da croupier
shakey

if none of them see this, I'm going to contact them directly.

Le cercle rouge
Wind river
No country for old men

more melville:

Le Samourai
Bob Le Flambeur
Army of Shadows

Chinatown
Breathless
Bonnie & Clyde
The Sting
Three Days of the Condor

The Maltese Falcon
Laura
The Big Sleep
Out of the Past
White Heat
Tokyo Drifter
Touch of Evil
Point Blank
Get Carter (1971 obv)

pickup on south street
the stranger
they live by night
blast of silence

Pépé le Moko
Green For Danger
Elevator to the Gallows
The Thin Man

M
Dr Mabuse the Gambler
In a Lonely Place
Dead Heat (1988)
The Hidden

Blood Simple
LA Confidential
Bound
Catch Me If You Can
Run Lola Run
Leon / The Professional

gonna nom some more good late-'80s/early-'90s era stuff too. some of these only i will vote for, maybe.

Cop
The Big Easy
Basic Instinct
Light Sleeper
China Moon

The Ladykillers (1955)
The Third Man
Scarlet Street
Miller's Crossing
Eastern Promises
Collateral
Goodfellas
Strangers on a Train
Night and the City
Pickpocket
Shadow of a Doubt
White Heat
The Fugitive
Le Trou

A Simple Plan
Blue Ruin
Carlito’s Way
Badlands
A Prophet
Heat
Dog Day Afternoon

some of these may be outside what you have in mind? let me know if I’m off base

Big Deal on Madonna Street
The Grifters

all good, VG! keep em coming.

The Raid
The Raid 2
Vengeance is Mine
Battles Without Honour and Humanity (would count the series as one film)
A Short Film About Killing

i'm cool w/BWOHAH being one film (and a vv exceptional one too.)

Pusher
Pusher 2: With Blood On My Hands
Pusher 3: I'm the Angel of Death

tempted to count this as one series too, but i think the films vary in enough ways that maybe separately is ok too? if anyone has an opinion on this please chime in.

I think your slashes in the title categories makes it an awfully large pool.

oh here you are, thanks for coming. i know, i'm kinda keeping it large. i want people to vote skewing as much towards crime and thriller and mystery as much as possible. i think the line can be blurry between genres here so i'm letting the voters decide.

Out of Sight
Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion
25th Hour
Michael Clayton
Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai
Mona Lisa
Witness
Enemy of the State
Zodiac
Leon
Fargo
River's Edge

The Woman in the Window
The Big Heat
The Late Show

The Long Kiss Goodnight
Pulp Fiction

Silence of the Lambs
In Bruges
Mulholland Drive
Devil in a Blue Dress
Inherent Vice
Long Goodbye
Gaslight (1944)

Who'll Stop The Rain?
Cutter's Way
House of Bamboo
52 Pick-Up
Charley Varrick
The Taking of Pelham One Two Three

no need to specify a year for that last one

Running Scared (1986)

the french connection
se7en
manhunter

the untouchables

Memories of a Murder
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
To Die For
Gun Crazy
Tell No One
Lift to the Scaffold
Kiss of Death
Drive
Detour
The Limey
Sexy Beast
Odd Man Out
The Killers
The Woman in the Window

OK I can already see that we need to agree on a title for Ascenseur pour l'échafaud before everyone votes

House of Games
Thief
Johnny Handsome
The Hit
The Long Good Friday
The Good Thief
The Cotton Club
Atlantic City

Out of the Past = Build My Gallows High, in the UK

OK I can already see that we need to agree on a title for Ascenseur pour l'échafaud before everyone votes

― scotti pruitti (wins), Sunday, March 11, 2018 1:32 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Rise Up to the Noose

The Killing

Le Deuxième souffle

I'm sure that all the usual suspects will be nominated--pun half-intended--so I'll wait till the end to see if anything I'd vote for is missing. I'll nominate one thing I think will be overlooked, primarily because it exists at the edge of noir: Rounders. To me, gambling-related films belong.

Mesrine: Public Enemy#1/Killer Instinct

probably trash, but I loved it at the time.

Your thread title was so familiar: "Is that in something I've seen in the past week or so?" Had to look it up, and yes, it is.

Stray Dog
High and Low
Night of the Hunter
Notorious
Elle
The Killing of a Chinese Bookie
Branded to Kill
Election
Good Time
Blue Velvet
Criss Cross

While I remember, another one that may be missed: Raw Deal from 1948. Some of the best noir cinematography ever.

asphalt jungle

man this is gonna be a tougggghhhhh ballot

While I remember, another one that may be missed: Raw Deal from 1948. Some of the best noir cinematography ever.

― clemenza, Sunday, March 11, 2018 5:22 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago)

Drunken Angel

a little bit of early Kurasawa/Mifune.

(xpost) Yes--a whole section on him in Visions of Light, as I recall (or maybe it was Scorsese's documentary on American film).

i think pretty much all my faves are listed.
hmm.

add,
Payday (really a character study more than a crime film, but the climax imo is the comission of a murder.
Night Moves (1975)

and say what u will about tarantino, but no one has bothered to nominate jackie brown or reservoir dogs?

oh, THE HOT ROCK!

Straw Dogs.

blade runner
total recall

^^ Thinking outside the box! I like it!

make it a trilogy ill rep for minority report all day

rewatched last year, enjoyed.

the 39 steps

Night and the City
Laura

Ace in the Hole
The Big Clock
The Breaking Point
Double Indemnity
I Confess
Jackie Brown
Key Largo
Sweet Smell of Success
Sunset Blvd.
Taxi Driver

My idea of a true '70s noir, as much or even more than The Long Goodbye or Chinatown or Night Moves: The Conversation.

The Musketeers of Pig Alley (1912)
Underworld (1927)
The Docks of New York (1928)
Thunderbolt (1929)
Asphalt (1929)
The Informer (1929)
Private Detective 62 (1933)
Woman in the Dark (1934)
Fury (1936)
They Drive by Night (UK, 1938)
Le Jour Se Leve (1938)
Panama Lady (1939)
Stranger on the Third Floor (1940)

Family Plot

control F Frenzy, nope.

Frenzy

A lot of the (often deservedly) better-known choices already made here, but don't sleep on this:

Act of Violence---1948, dir. Fred Zinneman, starring Robert Ryan, Van Heflin, Janet Leigh, Phyllis Thaxter, and Mary Astor. (In her autobiography, A Life on Film, Astor recalled filming her scenes for Act of Violence while simultaneously shooting Little Women: "For two weeks or so I was with the Zinnemann company playing a sleazy, aging whore, with Van Heflin and Robert Ryan. It was such a contrast that it was stimulating---and reviving...." Thanks, TCM.com!). Shit you can't take back, no matter how much you pay, in a star-spangled postwar suburban way or otherwise---crisis of the intractable, locked gears, friction grips, film fucking noir. (I got a bit tired of the earnest running around that Leigh, Astor, and Thaxter have to do, but the guys do it too, in a grimmer way, all in the maze.)

― dow, Thursday, July 6, 2017

That's from Last (X) Movies You Saw, which I think is also where forks and I got into a discussion of Nightmare Alley, go watch it now.

man, ONE FALSE MOVE! i haven't thought of that movie in so long and now i really need to see it. wow. and THE LAST SEDUCTION too. just the first post in this thread has me scrambling.

Cynda Williams!

i watched GUN CRAZY three times last year.

yes, Cynda! man. so great.

All the President's Men, because of the garage-freak--minus him, maybe not.

there are really too many good movies mentioned on this thread. would be too hard to make a definitive list.

So many things to watch. So little time.

so many sterling hayden movies...

kinda feel like film noir should have its own poll. so many amazing movies.

oh, gun crazy is on filmstruck. here we go!

best movie ever.

i mean i'm not even french and i kinda think it's perfect.

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
The Spanish Prisoner

Perfect Blue

Yojimbo?

What nails me in this neck of the woods is the struggle with a sense of guilt, however inchoate/bone deep, your own and someone else's, probably several somebodies, who are a lotta trouble (not like you got time to crawl off and get your head straight/penance on). Which includes the two I just mentioned, and also Clash By Night---no gangsters etc., but so much torture of self and others---b-but they can't help it! Or can they? Senses of personal motherfucking responsibility (except for cute little old uncle who goes on a demented glee spree of tongue-wagging)
xpost Blade Runner goes even deeper: don't tell me what you did, what are you, man? Can you tell me that?

Brick
Hard Candy

In No Country For Old Men and Get Carter, it's all somebody else's fault, but visionary vengeance quests take personal responsibility so far that body parts could end up scuttling across the road to the next reckoning, if the movies went on a little longer. Bardem's character has tracked his shit down, killed the guilty etc. parties, why the wife too, she asks him. He promised her husband he would, he explains dutifully, quietly-sadly? Maybe deferentially, for she is part of the price that must be paid. Carter is HS-HAAAA, he'd never say anything like this, but he's payin' it forward too.

So anyway here's my ballot so far, just in the order they come to mind:
Nightmare Alley
Blade Runner
No Country For Old Men
Get Carter
Chinatown
Clash By Night
The Postman Always Rings Twice (all three versions prob, although been a while since I've seen the Italian)
Detour
Act of Violence
In A Lonely Place
Vertigo
Taxi Driver

HA-HAAAA, that should be.

Homicide (the Mamet film from 1991)
Red Rock West
The American Friend
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
The Getaway (1972)

Has anybody else seen Hit Man, the Blaxploitation version of Get Carter released the next year w/Bernie Casey & Pam Grier?

https://www.grindhousedatabase.com/images/Hit_man_insert.jpg

Thieves' Highway

Casino
Across 110th Street
Straight Time
The Seven-Ups
Prime Cut
The Outfit
The Driver
Blue Collar
Klute
The Onion Field
The Laughing Policeman
The Yakuza

Wanna see Hit Man! What is Thieves' Highway about?? Good title.

Oh yeah and also for my ballot: Salesman, which seemingly totally makes sense as an Iranian situation today, but also so very true in so many places and times that ya don't think first (or maybe at all) of calling the cops, calling any Authoritah.

Pitfall
Murder, My Sweet

xp Thieves' Highway: guy comes home from the war to find that his father has been crippled by a shady underworld character, guy vows revenge. From about five minutes into the film it's just absolutely relentless tension.

I don't watch that many movies but it's one of my favorites fwiw.

oh man, Laughing Policeman is so good. Gotta find a way to rewatch that soon.

Liked the Outfit too -- one of the better Parker adaptations.

I love the story Jules Dassin shares on the Thieves Highway CC disc about how (supporting player) Jack Oakie had become deaf (during the war?), but nobody knew because as a result he became such an expert lip-reader.

gonna watch night moves again now i guess.

man, i gotta watch cutter's way again soon too.

probably a bunch of repeats here, sorry:

Snake Eyes
The Fugitive
Das Boot
Paper Moon
The Hunt For Red October
Shaft (1971)
The French Connection
Port of Shadows
Dead Calm
Batman Returns
A Fish Called Wanda
The In-Laws
Clue
The Third Man
Dial M For Murder
The Poseidon Adventure
Subway
The Wages of Fear
Johnny Dangerously

A couple of helpful Letterboxd lists:

Classic Noir
Neo-Noir

dead mans shoes
red riding 1980

The Two Jakes

can i get a ruling on Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

crime noir mystery def

Violent Cop
Boiling Point
Sonatine
Hana-bi

The Offence

Hell is a City
The Criminal
Robbery

Pickpocket

dark city

The Grissom Gang
Dirty Harry

Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
The Handmaiden
The Naked City
Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans

The General (1998 John Boorman with Brendan Gleeson)
Paddington 2

Insomnia (the Skarsgard one)
Rear Window
Accident (Cheang, 1992)

sorry 2009 not 1992*

I might end up splitting my ballot across the genres - Lock Stock is basically the perfect crime movie but doesn't have much of the Mystery or Thriller.

The Big Lebowski

(It probably would only make my ballot in a poll of comedies, but with Big Sleep and Long Goodbye present here, it felt missing.)

so everything but 'romcoms' qualifies apparently

no.......?

xp we've saved your usual seat for the results thread, but you might have to be Waldorf and Statler, is that cool?

because i've never had any desire to watch Hollywood butcher Insomnia i've only just realised it's Nolan who butchered it

"The Handmaiden"

this is a good call xxxps, I fancy watching that again.

Zodiac

Nightcrawler

every James Cagney film that isn't a musical

Not mentioned so far, afaic, from most recent to oldest, and with a focus on non-US stuff that if put on the spot I probably wouldn't call "greatest ever" but that's really satisfying and interesting and sorta the reason why I love crime films:

Killer Joe
Il Divo
Infernal Affairs II
Old Boy
City On Fire
Blue Velvet
Into The Night
La Balance
Emergency Squad
Revolver
Big Guns/Tony Arzenta
The Outside Man/Un Homme Est Mort
The Italian Connection
Milano Calibro 9
Two Lane Blacktop
Z
A Colt Is My Passport
The Small World Of Sammy Lee
Salvatore Giuliano
Pigs & Battleships
The Man Upstairs
Touch Of Evil
The Ship That Died Of Shame
The Big Combo
The Hitch Hiker
On Dangerous Ground
Pool Of London
Petrified Forest
The Lodger
Fantomas

I love a noms list that just doubles as a general curiosity list for the genre. We'll be able to do long ballots too I hope??? So many good flicks in the noms already.

The Godfather Part III

My aim would be a minimum of 25 flicks ideally and a maximum of 50. I think that's what I did for the action films?

Aiming for a reveal list of 75. Maybe 100. I dunno. We'll see!

Serie Noire
The Line-Up
Crime Wave (1985; The John Paizs film, not the Raimi film)
Side Street
Peeping Tom
Le Boucher
La Ceremonie
Purple Moon

here i am with some post-millennium flicks. is there some sort of "no supernatural elements" rule?

Animal Kingdom
Memento
Oldboy
Gone Baby Gone
Gone Girl
End of Watch
Non-Stop

Personally, I'm interpreting 'thrillers' in a somewhat restricted sense, in what seems to be the spirit of the poll (crime as the central genre). I wouldn't vote for supernatural thrillers.

Force of Evil
Brute Force
The Killers (1964)

How do we feel about gialli falling under these genres? I feel like a whole lot of Argento belongs on here: Deep Red, The Bird with the Crystal Plumage, Tenebrae, Trauma . . .

Maybe some Fulci, too, but I don't like any of his movies anywhere near as much.

For organizing polls to fit more options --
run several polls, concurrently or in a series, dividing fils by decade?

Updated ballot (my comments on some of these are upthread)
Nightmare Alley
Blade Runner
No Country For Old Men
Get Carter
Chinatown
Clash By Night
The Postman Always Rings Twice (all three versions prob, although been a while since I've seen the Italian)
Detour
Act of Violence
In A Lonely Place
Vertigo
Taxi Driver
Salesman
The Human Beast (good info here, and I gotta check some of those linked under People Who Liked This Also Liked...)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029957/

Bitter Moon
Hell or High Water
Good Time
12 Angry Men
On the Waterfront
Sexy Beast
The Vanishing (1988)

Hell Or High Water will def be high on my list. So good.

wind river on that note

I nominated that one already

nods

Touchez pas au Grisbi
Classes Tous Risques
The League of Gentleman
The Silent Partner
The Anderson Tapes
Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion
Milan Caliber 9
Cash on Demand

Oh right, Classes Tous Risques. I grabbed the Criterion DVD when I found an inexplicably cheap used copy a few years ago. Time to finally watch that thing!

Milano Calibro 9 is such an amazing movie. I like a lot of that poliziotteschi stuff but that's the one I'd recommend even to ppl who don't share my tolerance of the campier aspects of the genre.

Love Investigation... too. I tried starting an Elio Petri thread sometime ago but there were no takers.

Quai des Orfèvres
Ronin
Jumping Jack Flash

Rififi
The Public Enemy
Scarface (1932 and 1983)
Little Caesar
No Orchids for Miss Blandish
The Story of Temple Drake

Panic Room. Underrated Fincher IMO.

In my mind I distinguish between crime films (lone wolves or small groups of freelance professionals) and gangster films (from Cagney and Robinson to the Godfathers to yer triad and yakuza epics). I'm not suggesting anyone else adopt this weird distinction tbh.

Does anyone remember the name of a black-and-white movie about a heist in a small midwestern town? 1950s or early 60s. Maybe not Robert Aldrich or Don Siegel, but someone like that. It focuses on a cross-section of the townspeople rather than just robbers, iirc. And there's a pretty brutal fight scene in a farm or barn or something.

Anyway - that film.

not an answer to that question but another nomination:

Bad Day at Black Rock

Crime Wave (1953)
The Phenix City Story
Kansas City
Kansas City Confidential
The Set-Up
Little Murders

The Honeymoon Killers

Oh, and a couple of Fullers:
The Naked Kiss
Underworld USA

I love Little Murders, but it's really stretching things to call it a crime/mystery/thriller/noir movie! I mean, The In-Laws is a closer fit, if we're talking Alan Arkin joints.

I don't agree at all, especially compared to some of these nominations.

Damnation
Europa
Police (1985)
L'argent

Les Diaboliques

nominations thus far!

12 Angry Men
25th Hour
52 Pick-Up
A Colt Is My Passport
A Fish Called Wanda
A Prophet
A Short Film About Killing
A Simple Plan
Accident (2009)
Ace in the Hole
Act of Violence
All the President's Men
Animal Kingdom
Army of Shadows
Asphalt (1929)
Atlantic City
Bad Day at Black Rock
Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans
Badlands
Basic Instinct
Batman Returns
Battles Without Honour and Humanity
Big Deal on Madonna Street
Big Guns/Tony Arzenta
Bitter Moon
Blade Runner
Blast of Silence
Blood Simple
Blue Ruin
Blue Velvet
Bob le Flambeur
Boiling Point
Bonnie and Clyde
Bound
Branded to Kill
Breathless
Brick
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
Brute Force
Carlito’s Way
Cash on Demand
Casino
Catch Me If You Can
Charley Varrick
China Moon
Chinatown
City On Fire
Clash By Night
Classes Tous Risques
Clue
Collateral
Cop
Crime Wave (1954)
Crime Wave (1985, John Paizs)
Criss Cross
Cutter's Way
Damnation
Dark City
Das Boot
Dead Calm
Dead Heat
Dead Man's Shoes
Deep Red
Detour
Devil in a Blue Dress
Dial M For Murder
Dirty Harry
Dog Day Afternoon
Double Indemnity
Dr. Mabuse the Gambler
Drive
Drunken Angel
Eastern Promises
Election
Elevator to the Gallows
Elle
Emergency Squad
End of Watch
Enemy of the State
Europa
Family Plot
Fantomas
Fargo
Force of Evil
Frenzy
Fury (1936)
Gaslight (1944)
Get Carter (1971)
Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai
Gone Baby Gone
Gone Girl
Good Time
Goodfellas
Green For Danger
Gun Crazy
Hana-bi
Hard Candy
Heat
Hell is a City
Hell or High Water
High and Low
Hitman
Homicide
House of Bamboo
House of Games
I Confess
Il Divo
In a Lonely Place
In Bruges
Infernal Affairs II
Inherent Vice
Insomnia (1997)
Into The Night
Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion
Jackie Brown
Johnny Dangerously
Johnny Handsome
Jumping Jack Flash
Kansas City
Kansas City Confidential
Key Largo
Killer Joe
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
Kiss Me Deadly
Kiss of Death
L.A. Confidential
L'argent
La Balance
La Ceremonie
Laura
Le Boucher
Le Cercle Rouge
Le Deuxième souffle
Le Doulos
Le Jour Se Leve (1938)
Le Samourai
Le Trou
Leon / The Professional
Les Diaboliques
Light Sleeper
Little Caesar
Little Murders
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
M
Manhunter
Memento
Memories of Murder
Mesrine: Public Enemy#1/Killer Instinct
Michael Clayton
Milano Calibro 9
Miller's Crossing
Mona Lisa
Mulholland Drive
Murder, My Sweet
Night and the City
Night Moves
Night of the Hunter
Nightcrawler
Nightmare Alley
No Country For Old Men
No Orchids for Miss Blandish
Non-Stop
Notorious
Odd Man Out
Old Boy
Oldboy
On Dangerous Ground
On the Waterfront
One False Move
Out of Sight
Out of the Past
Panama Lady (1939)
Panic Room
Paper Moon
Payday
Peeping Tom
Pepe le Moko
Perfect Blue
Petrified Forest
Pickpocket
Pickup on South Street
Pigs & Battleships
Pitfall
Point Blank
Police (1985)
Pool Of London
Port of Shadows
Private Detective 62 (1933)
Pulp Fiction
Purple Moon
Pusher
Pusher II: With Blood On My Hands
Pusher III: I'm the Angel of Death
Quai des Orfèvres
Raw Deal (1948)
Rear Window
Red Riding 1980
Red Rock West
Reservoir Dogs
Revolver
Rififi
River's Edge
Robbery
Ronin
Run Lola Run
Running Scared (1986)
Salesman
Salvatore Giuliano
Scarface (1932)
Scarface (1983)
Scarlet Street
Se7en
Serie Noire
Sexy Beast
Shadow of a Doubt
Shaft (1971)
Side Street
Snake Eyes
Sonatine
Stranger on the Third Floor (1940)
Strangers on a Train
Straw Dogs
Stray Dog
Subway
Sunset Blvd.
Sweet Smell of Success
Taxi Driver
Tell No One
Tenebrae
The 39 Steps
The American Friend
The Anderson Tapes
The Asphalt Jungle
The Big Clock
The Big Combo
The Big Easy
The Big Heat
The Big Lebowski
The Big Sleep
The Bird With the Crystal Plumage
The Breaking Point
The Conversation
The Cotton Club
The Criminal
The Docks of New York (1928)
The French Connection
The Friends of Eddie Coyle
The Fugitive
The General (1998)
The Getaway (1972)
The Godfather III
The Good Thief
The Grifters
The Grissom Gang
The Handmaiden
The Hidden
The Hit
The Hitch Hiker
The Honeymoon Killers
The Hot Rock
The Human Beast
The Hunt For Red October
The In-Laws
The Informer (1929)
The Italian Connection
The Killers (1946)
The Killers (1964)
The Killing
The Killing of a Chinese Bookie
The Ladykillers (1955)
The Last Seduction
The Late Show
The League of Gentleman
The Limey
The Line-Up
The Lodger
The Long Good Friday
The Long Goodbye
The Long Kiss Goodnight
The Maltese Falcon
The Man Upstairs
The Musketeers of Pig Alley (1912)
The Naked City
The Naked Kiss
The Offence
The Outside Man/Un Homme Est Mort
The Phenix City Story
The Poseidon Adventure
The Postman Always Rings Twice (1946)
The Postman Always Rings Twice (1981)
The Public Enemy
The Raid
The Raid 2
The Set-Up
The Ship That Died Of Shame
The Silence of the Lambs
The Silent Partner
The Small World Of Sammy Lee
The Spanish Prisoner
The Sting
The Story of Temple Drake
The Stranger
The Taking of Pelham One Two Three
The Thin Man
The Third Man
The Two Jakes
The Untouchables
The Vanishing (1988)
The Wages of Fear
The Woman in the Window
They Drive by Night (UK, 1938)
They Live By Night
Thief
Thieves Highway
Three Days of the Condor
Thunderbolt (1929)
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
To Die For
Tokyo Drifter
Total Recall
Touch of Evil
Touchez pas au Grisbi
Trauma
Two Lane Blacktop
Underworld (1927)
Underworld USA
Vengeance is Mine
Vertigo
Violent Cop
White Heat
Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Who'll Stop The Rain?
Wind River
Witness
Woman in the Dark (1934)
Yojimbo
Z
Zodiac

338 films

The Passenger

The Lady from Shanghai
Angel Face
Murder By Contract
Gilda
Leave Her to Heaven

You left off Rounders or omitted it intentionally, which is fine--the more I think about the thread title, it doesn't really fit. There are gambling films that obviously do, but Rounders would be pushing it.

The Strange Love of Martha Ivers

wait, godfather 3 is nominated but not the first two?

I haven't seen Rounders but I suspect it fits the thread better than The Poseidon Adventure.

(xpost, but was wondering about that Godfather thing as well)

Re. Das Boot: I would argue that war pictures don't belong on this poll. Unless someone wants to make a distinction between official combat versus espionage, sabotage, and/or personal beefs?

As for The Poseidon Adventure, natural disasters seem to me to be right out.

Beyond the Poseidon Adventure is about crims if i remember but who wants to vote for that?

Oldboy is duplicated as Old Boy in the list btw

Alphaville

Le Corbeau
1940 version of Gaslight
Infernal Affairs (only II seems to be listed?)
Panique

I refrained from commenting on The Poseidon Adventure when I saw that. I tend to be pretty loose when it comes to nominations (as I've said many times, specious ones die of their own speciousness), but...

Shoot the Piano Player

Oops I'll update with Rounders later thanks for the heads up.

Even I'm not voting for Poseidon Adventure here.

I was leaving it open w/noms but as far as thrillers go I guess I was thinking more on the Hitchcock or Depalma or even Argento tip than big old thrilling action-y films.

wait, godfather 3 is nominated but not the first two?

Yes, everyone was avoiding nominating Godfather movies, so I went ahead and nominated one.

Close poll immediately.

(Er, close nominations rather)

Brighton Rock

let’s get them on the books
Godfather
Godfather II

my def of "thriller" is very informed by I guess 80s/90s promotional genre language, in which The Hunt For Red October is functionally a "thriller" in the same way as The Fugitive - films that contain suspense, revolve around adult characters, maybe with some intrigue or a heavier mood, marketed as at people in their 30s and 40s more than teenagers, but with more thrills/chases/stakeouts/death than just a "drama." basically the descendants of hitchcock for better or worse.

and so yeah I'd include poseidon but I'd also understand someone saying it's off in a different zone of popcorn movies despite the gestures at adult themes and the age cross-section of the cast etc. problem is we already did "action" so I dunno if "blockbusters" / "spectacles" or w/e will ever exist as a category, and "disaster movies" might be too niche. i dunno, it's not my poll and i doubt I'd actually end up with room for poseidon on my ballot but imho that's exactly how these things shake out - take a broad view with the noms and then the results indicate what people really think the genres contain.

Diva

London Alert: the Prince Charles is showing Gun Crazy next Tuesday.

of course another thing thriller" covers propmotionally, sometimes with "erotic" in front of it, is non-supernatural horror.... your cape fears and straw dogses. and those I don't think feel belong alongside mysteries and noirs.... can't explain why. "legal thriller" also another one but I can't imagine voting for any of those in any poll whatsoever, zzzzzzz

I wouldn't vote for it myself, but I remember Croupier as being pretty noirish.

the slashes in the title add qualifiers to “thriller” though, surely? - crime/mystery/noir drills “thriller” down from where you’re at

if it was *just* a thriller poll it wd be different but i think we need to keep the noms in context of these genres as they work together

at least that’s my interpretation

Bande à part
Pierrot le fou
Night Train to Munich
The Man Who Knew Too Much (34)
The Man Who Knew Too Much (56)
North By Northwest

Somebody else can do the scan through the Hitchcock filmography for other noms.

The Trial

Call Northside 777
It Always Rains on Sunday
While the City Sleeps

Rope

Spellbound

Hangover Square
This Gun for Hire

Thrillers that didn't more comfortably fit into either the action or horror poll would be a fair way to interpret that.

The Manchurian Candidate (1962 and 2004)
The 1931 version of the Maltese Falcon (and 1936's Satan Met a Lady, for the LOLz)
The Black Hand (1906)
The 1951 version of M
Les Vampires (1915-16)
The High Sign (1921)

The Black Hand

^^^

apparently this is the very first mafia movie

Ichi the Killer
Death of Honor (both Fukasaku + Miike versions)
Gonin (T. Ishii, feat. Kitano)
A Better Tomorrow (and sequels)
Dangerous Encouters First Kind (incredible Tsui Hark thriller w/mercenaries, Triad members and teen anarchists)
Nobody Will Speak of Us When We're Dead (starring Victoria Abril)
Black Caesar

the good the bad the weird

Thrillers that didn't more comfortably fit into either the action or horror poll would be a fair way to interpret that.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.)

This seems like a reasonable test; The Silent Partner, the Canadian film from the late '70s, passes.

I nominated Vertigo, second North By Northwest, Rope, Rear Window, Strangers On A Train, which was based on young Patricia Highsmith's first hit, and reminds me of The Talented Mr. Riply (the only Ripley movie I've seen, hoping for more to be made dammit! Incl. The Boy Who Followed Ripley).
Amen also of course to Bande à part, Breathless, and add Cruel Story of Youth, from 1960, when Oshima was a punk following Godard.

ooh I have a nom

The Interview (1998)

I actually want to specifically lobby for this & encourage ppl to check it out. It’s on Netflix right now - australian movie starring Hugo Weaving & Tony Martin. It’s SO good, maybe my favorite Weaving performance ever.
Please to watch!!!

the list is updated!

my only request henceforth is to please try to nominate separately from discussions, as VG did above. I think I've caught everything but I don't want to miss anything. I think that's why I missed Rounders the first time around.

another dozen nominations from me:

Mean Streets
The Departed
Prince of the City
Serpico
Fresh
New Jack City
King of New York
Miami Blues
State of Grace
We Own the Night
American Me
Deep Cover

omar otm:how did we miss Serps until now?
gotta have Serp.

Departed is otm for this genre but it is also so much in my rearview that idk if i care to even rewatch it ever again.
Something about 00’s movies often has that quality for me

Witness for the Prosecution (1957)

Ripper of a movie.

Purple Moon is nominated, should be Purple Noon.

No Johnnie To/Milkyway yet (aside from Election)?:
Too Many Ways To Be No. 1 (solo Wai Ka Fai)
The Longest Night (Patrick Yau)
A Hero Never Dies (To/Wai)
The Mission
Exiled

More Hong Kong:
The Killer (John Woo)
My Heart is that Eternal Rose (despite title, def. gangsters - directed by Wong Kar-wai mentor Patrick Tam)
Final Victory (more Tam, co-scripted by Wong this time -- supposedly intended as part of a trilogy with As Tears Go By-- also features Tsui Hark as a crime boss!)
On The Run (Alfred Cheung, starring Yuen Biao as cop and Pat Ha as hitwoman)
Taiwan:
Goodbye South Goodbye (Hou Hsiao-hsien - basically a remake of Mean Streets, except with pig smuggling)

more noms:

Drug War (Johnnie To)
Cape Fear
The Night of the Hunter
Bad Lieutenant
Election 2 aka Triad Election

a pair of outstandingly great Korean crime films:

Nameless Gangster
New World

updated nominations list! keep 'em coming. I'll leave this open for awhile yet.

please let me know if I missed something you nominated, too.

12 Angry Men
25th Hour
52 Pick-Up
A Better Tomorrow
A Better Tomorrow II
A Better Tomorrow III
A Colt Is My Passport
A Fish Called Wanda
A Hero Never Dies
A Prophet
A Short Film About Killing
A Simple Plan
Accident (2009)
Ace in the Hole
Act of Violence
All the President's Men
Alphaville
American Me
Angel Face
Animal Kingdom
Army of Shadows
Asphalt (1929)
Atlantic City
Bad Day at Black Rock
Bad Lieutenant
Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans
Badlands
Bande à part
Basic Instinct
Batman Returns
Battles Without Honour and Humanity
Big Deal on Madonna Street
Big Guns/Tony Arzenta
Bitter Moon
Black Caesar
Blade Runner
Blast of Silence
Blood Simple
Blue Ruin
Blue Velvet
Bob le Flambeur
Boiling Point
Bonnie and Clyde
Bound
Branded to Kill
Breathless
Brick
Brighton Rock
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
Brute Force
Call Northside 777
Cape Fear (1962)
Carlito’s Way
Cash on Demand
Casino
Catch Me If You Can
Charley Varrick
China Moon
Chinatown
City On Fire
Clash By Night
Classes Tous Risques
Clue
Collateral
Cop
Crime Wave (1954)
Crime Wave (1985, John Paizs)
Criss Cross
Croupier
Cruel Story of Youth
Cutter's Way
Damnation
Dangerous Encouters First Kind
Dark City
Das Boot
Dead Calm
Dead Heat
Dead Man's Shoes
Death of Honor (Fukasaku)
Death of Honor (Miike)
Deep Cover
Deep Red
Detour
Devil in a Blue Dress
Dial M For Murder
Dirty Harry
Diva
Dog Day Afternoon
Double Indemnity
Dr. Mabuse the Gambler
Drive
Drug War
Drunken Angel
Eastern Promises
Election
Election 2, aka Triad Election
Elevator to the Gallows
Elle
Emergency Squad
End of Watch
Enemy of the State
Europa
Exiled
Family Plot
Fantomas
Fargo
Final Victory
Force of Evil
Frenzy
Fresh
Fury (1936)
Gaslight (1940)
Gaslight (1944)
Get Carter (1971)
Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai
Gilda
Gone Baby Gone
Gone Girl
Gonin
Good Time
Goodbye South Goodbye
Goodfellas
Green For Danger
Gun Crazy
Hana-bi
Hangover Square
Hard Candy
Heat
Hell is a City
Hell or High Water
High and Low
Hitman
Homicide
House of Bamboo
House of Games
I Confess
Ichi the Killer
Il Divo
In a Lonely Place
In Bruges
Infernal Affairs
Infernal Affairs II
Inherent Vice
Insomnia (1997)
Into The Night
Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion
It Always Rains on Sunday
Jackie Brown
Johnny Dangerously
Johnny Handsome
Jumping Jack Flash
Kansas City
Kansas City Confidential
Key Largo
Killer Joe
King of New York
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
Kiss Me Deadly
Kiss of Death
L.A. Confidential
L'argent
La Balance
La Ceremonie
Laura
Le Boucher
Le Cercle Rouge
Le Corbeau
Le Deuxième souffle
Le Doulos
Le Jour Se Leve (1938)
Le Samourai
Le Trou
Leave Her to Heaven
Leon / The Professional
Les Diaboliques
Les Vampires (1915-16)
Light Sleeper
Little Caesar
Little Murders
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
M
Manhunter
Mean Streets
Memento
Memories of Murder
Mesrine: Public Enemy#1/Killer Instinct
Miami Blues
Michael Clayton
Milano Calibro 9
Miller's Crossing
Mona Lisa
Mulholland Drive
Murder By Contract
Murder, My Sweet
My Heart is that Eternal Rose
Nameless Gangster
New Jack City
New World
Night and the City
Night Moves
Night of the Hunter
Night Train to Munich
Nightcrawler
Nightmare Alley
No Country For Old Men
No Orchids for Miss Blandish
Nobody Will Speak of Us When We're Dead
Non-Stop
North By Northwest
Notorious
Odd Man Out
Oldboy
On Dangerous Ground
On The Run
On the Waterfront
One False Move
Out of Sight
Out of the Past
Panama Lady (1939)
Panic Room
Panique
Paper Moon
Payday
Peeping Tom
Pepe le Moko
Perfect Blue
Petrified Forest
Pickpocket
Pickup on South Street
Pierrot le fou
Pigs & Battleships
Pitfall
Point Blank
Police (1985)
Pool Of London
Port of Shadows
Prince of the City
Private Detective 62 (1933)
Pulp Fiction
Purple Noon
Pusher
Pusher II: With Blood On My Hands
Pusher III: I'm the Angel of Death
Quai des Orfèvres
Raw Deal (1948)
Rear Window
Red Riding 1980
Red Rock West
Reservoir Dogs
Revolver
Rififi
River's Edge
Robbery
Ronin
Rope
Rounders
Run Lola Run
Running Scared (1986)
Salesman
Salvatore Giuliano
Satan Met a Lady
Scarface (1932)
Scarface (1983)
Scarlet Street
Se7en
Serie Noire
Serpico
Sexy Beast
Shadow of a Doubt
Shaft (1971)
Shoot the Piano Player
Side Street
Snake Eyes
Sonatine
Spellbound
State of Grace
Stranger on the Third Floor (1940)
Strangers on a Train
Straw Dogs
Stray Dog
Subway
Sunset Blvd.
Sweet Smell of Success
Taxi Driver
Tell No One
Tenebrae
The 1951 version of M
The 39 Steps
The American Friend
The Anderson Tapes
The Asphalt Jungle
The Big Clock
The Big Combo
The Big Easy
The Big Heat
The Big Lebowski
The Big Sleep
The Bird With the Crystal Plumage
The Black Hand (1906)
The Breaking Point
The Conversation
The Cotton Club
The Criminal
The Departed
The Docks of New York (1928)
The French Connection
The Friends of Eddie Coyle
The Fugitive
The General (1998)
The Getaway (1972)
The Godfather
The Godfather Pt. II
The Godfather Pt. III
The Good Thief
The Good, the Bad, and the Weird
The Grifters
The Grissom Gang
The Handmaiden
The Hidden
The High Sign (1921)
The Hit
The Hitch Hiker
The Honeymoon Killers
The Hot Rock
The Human Beast
The Hunt For Red October
The In-Laws
The Informer (1929)
The Interview
The Italian Connection
The Killer
The Killers (1946)
The Killers (1964)
The Killing
The Killing of a Chinese Bookie
The Lady from Shanghai
The Ladykillers (1955)
The Last Seduction
The Late Show
The League of Gentleman
The Limey
The Line-Up
The Lodger
The Long Good Friday
The Long Goodbye
The Long Kiss Goodnight
The Longest Night
The Maltese Falcon (1931)
The Maltese Falcon (1941)
The Man Upstairs
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934)
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956)
The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
The Manchurian Candidate (2004)
The Mission
The Musketeers of Pig Alley (1912)
The Naked City
The Naked Kiss
The Night of the Hunter
The Offence
The Outside Man/Un Homme Est Mort
The Passenger
The Phenix City Story
The Poseidon Adventure
The Postman Always Rings Twice (1946)
The Postman Always Rings Twice (1981)
The Public Enemy
The Raid
The Raid 2
The Set-Up
The Ship That Died Of Shame
The Silence of the Lambs
The Silent Partner
The Small World Of Sammy Lee
The Spanish Prisoner
The Sting
The Story of Temple Drake
The Strange Love of Martha Ivers
The Stranger
The Taking of Pelham One Two Three
The Thin Man
The Third Man
The Trial
The Two Jakes
The Untouchables
The Vanishing (1988)
The Wages of Fear
The Woman in the Window
They Drive by Night (UK, 1938)
They Live By Night
Thief
Thieves Highway
This Gun for Hire
Three Days of the Condor
Thunderbolt (1929)
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
To Die For
Tokyo Drifter
Too Many Ways To Be No. 1
Total Recall
Touch of Evil
Touchez pas au Grisbi
Trauma
Two Lane Blacktop
Underworld (1927)
Underworld USA
Vengeance is Mine
Vertigo
Violent Cop
We Own the Night
While the City Sleeps
White Heat
Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Who'll Stop The Rain?
Wind River
Witness
Witness for the Prosecution
Woman in the Dark (1934)
Yojimbo
Z
Zodiac

Angels with Dirty Faces
The Asphalt Jungle
The Killing
Mikey & Nicky
The Public Enemy

What happened with this?

Shh! I wanted (re)watch time!

Noms still open, what happened is people have slowed their roll a bit.

I'm nominating

Miami Vice

(xpost)

Kidding, of course. I could probably put together a nice ballot of 30-40 movies off the top of my head, but there are a good number of key films that I really should watch before voting, plus a handful of things that I haven't seen in years. Ideally, I'd love to spend a good month doing a deep dive into the genre, but dissertation chapter, grading, life, etc would never permit that.

sorry guys, I haven't dropped the ball on this, but I've been busy.

are there enough people interested in this thing to make it a viable endeavor?

I'd drop a ballot, yeah.

I missed this but would probably vote. category seems... pretty broad

Totally, in favour of a long voting period though

Big yes to both participating and a long voting period.

the category can be as broad as anyone wants but i do recommend some self-restraint in some instances.

and the most serious crime would be not voting!

This prob deserves a nom

You Were Never Really Here

What's up with this poll? Is it dead?

I would chuck a ballot in, sure

I don’t really have time for it these days so if someone else wants to run with it go ahead.