Good mourning! We're still less than 18 months into the goat show.
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Friday, 1 June 2018 07:57 (seven years ago)
one more reason to sharpen a special gilded guillotine Just for ted cruz:
Senator Ted Cruz, whose higher political ambitions were dashed by Donald Trump in 2016, is apparently happy to work with the man who once called his wife ugly if it means helping out his own horrible friends.After the White House announced on Thursday that Trump would pardon Dinesh D’Souza—the conservative commenter, unreformed racist, and peddler of conspiratorial home videos—the Daily Caller reported that Cruz played a substantial role in making his buddy’s felony conviction for illegal campaign donations go away.
― capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 June 2018 08:48 (seven years ago)
Goat mourning!
― the salmon mousse (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 1 June 2018 12:44 (seven years ago)
meanwhile, in virginia:
Nathan Larson, a 37-year-old accountant from Charlottesville, Virginia, is running for Congress as an independent candidate in his native state. He is also a pedophile, as he admitted to HuffPost on Thursday, who has bragged in website posts about raping his late ex-wife.In a phone call, Larson confirmed that he created the now-defunct websites suiped.org and incelocalypse.today ― chat rooms that served as gathering places for pedophiles and violence-minded misogynists like himself. HuffPost contacted Larson after confirming that his campaign website shared an IP address with these forums, among others. His sites were terminated by their domain host on Tuesday.On the phone, he was open about his pedophilia and seemingly unfazed about his long odds of attaining government office.“A lot of people are tired of political correctness and being constrained by it,” he said. “People prefer when there’s an outsider who doesn’t have anything to lose and is willing to say what’s on a lot of people’s minds.”When asked whether he’s a pedophile or just writes about pedophilia, he said, “It’s a mix of both. When people go over the top there’s a grain of truth to what they say.”Asked whether there was a “grain of truth” in his essay about father-daughter incest and another about raping his ex-wife repeatedly, he said yes, offering that plenty of women have rape fantasies. According to Larson’s campaign manifesto, his platform as a “quasi-neoreactionary libertarian” candidate includes protecting gun ownership rights, establishing free trade and protecting “benevolent white supremacy,” as well as legalizing incestuous marriage and child pornography.In the manifesto, Larson called Nazi leader Adolf Hitler a “white supremacist hero.” He urged Congress to repeal the Violence Against Women Act, adding, “We need to switch to a system that classifies women as property, initially of their fathers and later of their husbands.” He also showed sympathy for men who identify as involuntary celibates, or incels, suggesting it is unfair that they “are forced to pay taxes for schools, welfare, and other support for other men’s children.”
In a phone call, Larson confirmed that he created the now-defunct websites suiped.org and incelocalypse.today ― chat rooms that served as gathering places for pedophiles and violence-minded misogynists like himself. HuffPost contacted Larson after confirming that his campaign website shared an IP address with these forums, among others. His sites were terminated by their domain host on Tuesday.
On the phone, he was open about his pedophilia and seemingly unfazed about his long odds of attaining government office.
“A lot of people are tired of political correctness and being constrained by it,” he said. “People prefer when there’s an outsider who doesn’t have anything to lose and is willing to say what’s on a lot of people’s minds.”
When asked whether he’s a pedophile or just writes about pedophilia, he said, “It’s a mix of both. When people go over the top there’s a grain of truth to what they say.”
Asked whether there was a “grain of truth” in his essay about father-daughter incest and another about raping his ex-wife repeatedly, he said yes, offering that plenty of women have rape fantasies.
According to Larson’s campaign manifesto, his platform as a “quasi-neoreactionary libertarian” candidate includes protecting gun ownership rights, establishing free trade and protecting “benevolent white supremacy,” as well as legalizing incestuous marriage and child pornography.
In the manifesto, Larson called Nazi leader Adolf Hitler a “white supremacist hero.” He urged Congress to repeal the Violence Against Women Act, adding, “We need to switch to a system that classifies women as property, initially of their fathers and later of their husbands.” He also showed sympathy for men who identify as involuntary celibates, or incels, suggesting it is unfair that they “are forced to pay taxes for schools, welfare, and other support for other men’s children.”
more here if you can stomach it: https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/nathan-larson-congressional-candidate-pedophile_us_5b10916de4b0d5e89e1e4824
― capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 June 2018 12:45 (seven years ago)
I'm starting to come around to the notion of just pulling the goddamn Band-Aid off already re: the wholesale dissolution of civilization.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 12:49 (seven years ago)
(trigger warning for the rest of that story btw, it wanders into some pretty horrifying territory)
― capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 June 2018 12:53 (seven years ago)
shit's starting to feel a little biblical
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:00 (seven years ago)
it's cool that in just a few months we've had both an honest-to-goodness nazi win a primary in illinois and now an actual paedophile rapist is out there seeking office
i was just gonna say blood meridian is starting to feel like a manual for american society
― capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:01 (seven years ago)
"wanders into"
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:01 (seven years ago)
xpost Your outlook seems a little overly-optimistic, tbh.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:03 (seven years ago)
okay, "strides boldly and upsettingly"
― capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:04 (seven years ago)
This all sounds very Kaufmanesque...
― Mark G, Friday, 1 June 2018 13:04 (seven years ago)
Franz Kaufman
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:05 (seven years ago)
eichmannesque maybe
i'm gonna take the occam's razor view here but i'd be fucking delighted to be proved wrong
― capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:06 (seven years ago)
Roy Moore was before his time I guess
― frogbs, Friday, 1 June 2018 13:13 (seven years ago)
I've spent the last year and change reading a ton of stuff about the US of fifty years ago, which on the one hand has provided a lot of useful context for where we find ourselves currently but which on the other hand has not gone a long way toward convincing me that our species isn't essentially insane and driven toward self-immolation. In some ways, the Nixon era is starting to feel more and more like a more charming and cozy hellscape than the one we find ourselves in today.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:21 (seven years ago)
I mean, it's still ultimately a choice on par with deciding which side of your body you want dipped in acid.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:22 (seven years ago)
gotta be the left side for that authentic two-face vibe imo
― capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:26 (seven years ago)
The unmentioned catch being that your unblemished half still looks like Tommy Lee Jones.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:29 (seven years ago)
still an improvement on what i'm working with now tbh
― capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:33 (seven years ago)
Breaking: Trump administration officials are making plans to order grid operators to buy electricity from struggling coal and nuclear plants in an effort to extend their life, a move that would represent an unprecedented intervention into U.S. energy markets.— Jennifer A. Dlouhy (@jendlouhyhc) June 1, 2018
― Eliza D., Friday, 1 June 2018 13:36 (seven years ago)
breaking: Trump administration bans movie streaming services in order to boost struggling VHS rentals .
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:42 (seven years ago)
your free market at work, folks
― capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:44 (seven years ago)
I predict that the Infrastructure Weeks of the near future will lead to interstate potholes filled with Trump steaks and crumbling bridges held together with Trump ties.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:48 (seven years ago)
btw congrats to everyone who made money by the president leaking the jobs numbers ahead of time
― frogbs, Friday, 1 June 2018 13:52 (seven years ago)
I kinda support Trump overtly hatefucking the economy like he's been doing this week because I've long predicted that it would take him pissing off the moneyed elites before any real move to chuck him into the street would begin in earnest.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:53 (seven years ago)
"This'll be the thing that finally takes him down!"
― Evan, Friday, 1 June 2018 13:57 (seven years ago)
sounds like dirty socialism to me?
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:00 (seven years ago)
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/grieving-mother-after-meeting-trump-it-was-talking-toddler/amp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:01 (seven years ago)
xxpost Yeah, I don't ever say that as a general thing. He's sitting pretty until and unless the people in/with power see him as more of a liability than an asset. If (not necessary when) that day comes, though, getcher popcorn.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:01 (seven years ago)
.@FLOTUS will NOT be joining the president at Camp David this weekend, per her office. (Mrs. Trump has joined him on 3 of the 5 trips he's taken there - last was Sept. 2017.) Her office said this wk she's been working - holding staff mtgs on initiatives/long-term planning.— Hallie Jackson (@HallieJackson) June 1, 2018
shes dead
― frogbs, Friday, 1 June 2018 14:04 (seven years ago)
Being consoled by Donald Trump after suffering a tragedy is probably not unlike treating a wound by repeatedly jamming a knife directly into it.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:04 (seven years ago)
I've spent the last year and change reading a ton of stuff about the US of fifty years ago, which on the one hand has provided a lot of useful context for where we find ourselves currently but which on the other hand has not gone a long way toward convincing me that our species isn't essentially insane and driven toward self-immolation.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch)
yeah, unfortunately trying to make sense of what's happened to the world in the past couple years has led me to delve really deep into history and in doing so i've found that all the positive values i believed in (democracy, reason, humanism, etc) were always lies.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:05 (seven years ago)
I dgaf about Melaniagate generally speaking, but this is honestly starting to feel like Shelly Miscavige Mk 2.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:06 (seven years ago)
I know, I'm just so exhausted that even totally reasonable speculation gives me dreaded OPPO DUMP flashbacks.
xposts
― Evan, Friday, 1 June 2018 14:06 (seven years ago)
sneaky autocorrect tried to make me post "POOP DUMP".
― Evan, Friday, 1 June 2018 14:07 (seven years ago)
i don't think the question has ever been whether he's an "asset". i mean let's be fair, we're talking about a coup, a Business Plot if you will. such things are fairly dangerous endeavours.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:08 (seven years ago)
Nah, her Win10 Fembot software updates didn't take.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:13 (seven years ago)
Where's Melania? I want to go there
― Evan, Friday, 1 June 2018 14:17 (seven years ago)
What the noble Bush 41 did with his pardons was so much worse than what Trump has done because Bush not only pardoned his criminal aides but did so to kill an investigation into Bush himself. Trump may abuse the pardon power that way in the future but has not yet done that. https://t.co/JdnGAIC9iz— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) June 1, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:12 (seven years ago)
my god, these stories
https://people.com/crime/donald-trump-meets-santa-fe-shooting-families-mom-confrontation/
Trump, 71, repeatedly called the gunman “wacky” while speaking at the gathering, at a Houston military base, according to Rhonda Hart.“He kept calling him this wacky kid who was wearing a wacky trench coat,” says Hart, whose 14-year-old daughter, Kimberly Vaughan, was fatally shot along with nine others in the May 18 attack in Galveston County.At that point, Hart recalls, “I raised my hand and said, ‘I have something to say here. Let’s just get to the mental health part.”She then explained that her daughter had anxiety, Asperger’s syndrome and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder and “took medicine daily.”“I said, ‘The shooter might have been depressed, but he wasn’t wacky.’ But if that kid needed help, he needed to have proper access to it,” Hart says, “meaning you shouldn’t repeal the Affordable Care Act (one of Trump’s cardinal promises) and get them the help they need and take away the stigma of mental illness.”She says she told Trump, “Mental illness needs to be addressed.”“I said all that and he didn’t say anything,” she says. “He was just like, ‘Uhhhh …’ ”
“He kept calling him this wacky kid who was wearing a wacky trench coat,” says Hart, whose 14-year-old daughter, Kimberly Vaughan, was fatally shot along with nine others in the May 18 attack in Galveston County.
At that point, Hart recalls, “I raised my hand and said, ‘I have something to say here. Let’s just get to the mental health part.”
She then explained that her daughter had anxiety, Asperger’s syndrome and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder and “took medicine daily.”
“I said, ‘The shooter might have been depressed, but he wasn’t wacky.’ But if that kid needed help, he needed to have proper access to it,” Hart says, “meaning you shouldn’t repeal the Affordable Care Act (one of Trump’s cardinal promises) and get them the help they need and take away the stigma of mental illness.”
She says she told Trump, “Mental illness needs to be addressed.”
“I said all that and he didn’t say anything,” she says. “He was just like, ‘Uhhhh …’ ”
― frogbs, Friday, 1 June 2018 15:14 (seven years ago)
I guess w/o Hope Hicks there's no one to give him a sheet of paper with "5. I hear you" on it
― frogbs, Friday, 1 June 2018 15:20 (seven years ago)
he was just living up to his promise to 'have a little fun'
"We are going to Dallas, we are going to Houston. We are going to have a little fun today. Thank you very much," President Trump says as he head to Texas to meet with the families of Santa Fe school shooting victims https://t.co/LJJOcM4YsX pic.twitter.com/2sDFcgdoCX— CBS News (@CBSNews) May 31, 2018
― capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:20 (seven years ago)
They told him he could come down the evacuation shute when they land at Dallas.
― Mark G, Friday, 1 June 2018 15:21 (seven years ago)
Of course he didn't respond to Ms. Hart's drag of a question. She was harshing his buzz.
Plus also it's real awkward to field inquiries about mental illness when you're a septuagenarian saddled with decades of unaddressed personality disorders.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:24 (seven years ago)
North Korean envoy at White House hand delivering a letter from Kim Jong Un to Trump at the moment.
― how's life, Friday, 1 June 2018 17:59 (seven years ago)
Kim and his advisors prob had a lot of fun cooking up just the right mix of vague promises and flattery, so he will swallow it whole.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:02 (seven years ago)
stuffed with anthrax I hope
xp
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 18:02 (seven years ago)
that north korean letter in full https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg0CSwqUkAALbf3?format=jpg
― capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:06 (seven years ago)
jackietreehorn.jpg
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:17 (seven years ago)
summit back on
― frogbs, Friday, 1 June 2018 18:48 (seven years ago)
this is all so stupid
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 18:50 (seven years ago)
kim jong un's back on the "very honorable" list, eh?
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:50 (seven years ago)
hey remember when Obama bent the knee and assured wall street there would be zero retribution from his admin for their cratering of the world's economy? and then how corporate america spent the next 8 years whining about "uncertainty", implicitly (and some very explicitly) laying the blame for a sluggish recovery at this feet?
haha that was fun
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:58 (seven years ago)
I feel like such a fool for prematurely selling all my challenge coins.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 June 2018 19:23 (seven years ago)
More detail on propping up uneconomic coal plants.
https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/doe-plans-to-order-guaranteed-profits-for-coal-nuclear-power-plants#gs.LxHabMg
Quote from the heritage foundation at the end hopefully supports this theory:
I kinda support Trump overtly hatefucking the economy like he's been doing this week because I've long predicted that it would take him pissing off the moneyed elites before any real move to chuck him into the street would begin in earnest.― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 11:53 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink]
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― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 1 June 2018 20:01 (seven years ago)
This story seems to fit our paranoid times. Raise the rhetoric, raise the blood pressure and seemingly some are going bang.
The blind fold detail with an immigrant worker is such a strange detail.
https://nypost.com/2018/06/01/paranoid-millionaire-charged-in-death-of-worker-hired-to-dig-personal-nuke-shelter/
What was on this guy's CD player? "Paranoid Chant" by the Minutemen.
― earlnash, Friday, 1 June 2018 21:59 (seven years ago)
Whomp whomp
new SCOOP from Singapore: The U.S. is trying to find a discreet way to pay for Kim Jong Un’s luxury five-start hotel: https://t.co/jk9WVgBYBc— John Hudson (@John_Hudson) June 1, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 June 2018 23:45 (seven years ago)
> Democracy Dies in Darkness
Or if you have adblock installed
― koogs, Friday, 1 June 2018 23:58 (seven years ago)
(that link gives me a page containing just the Washington post banner)
― koogs, Friday, 1 June 2018 23:59 (seven years ago)
Sure hope 'discreetly' means 'on the American taxpayer's dime'.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Saturday, 2 June 2018 00:19 (seven years ago)
can this, or any of this, be corrected still?
― Stevolende, Saturday, 2 June 2018 00:20 (seven years ago)
open that shit in incognito/private mode, my guy
xxp
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 2 June 2018 00:21 (seven years ago)
Are we paying for Kim's hookers too?
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 June 2018 00:37 (seven years ago)
Are we paying to have some substance rubbed on anyone's face?
― nickn, Saturday, 2 June 2018 00:44 (seven years ago)
Donald Trump says his letter from Kim Jong-un was “a very nice letter”.Eight minutes later, he says he hasn’t opened it yet. pic.twitter.com/ZOgqODlsY7— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) June 1, 2018
This is some kind of rodeo alright
― frogbs, Saturday, 2 June 2018 01:18 (seven years ago)
they gave him a comedy oversized envelope. he likes it because it is yuge. the content does not matter to him, because he does not, and possibly cannot, read. he certainly cannot process anything he does read.
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Saturday, 2 June 2018 07:02 (seven years ago)
"Thank you Kim, the letter is very nice. Very interesting. I'm told it's for me! That's very generous."
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cf/9c/13/cf9c138b4d1622d9382e96c72daa34b6.jpg
― Evan, Saturday, 2 June 2018 13:21 (seven years ago)
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 June 2018 13:45 (seven years ago)
well, good mourning!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 June 2018 13:47 (seven years ago)
lol
― flappy bird, Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:25 (seven years ago)
Don’t worry it’ll be over in 6 years
― flappy bird, Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:26 (seven years ago)
― flappy bird
don't even joke about that, i can't live through six more years of this shit
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:40 (seven years ago)
Florida will!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:44 (seven years ago)
eh if the economy stays "strong", or even if it takes a hit following Dems taking back House or maybe Senate, allowing the GOP/ Trump/ complicit MSM to effectively place blame on them, i could easily see Trump winning again in 2020.
this is who we are now.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:45 (seven years ago)
Fuck off, he lost by 3 points, you idiots.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:46 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZIwwf1onKM
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:47 (seven years ago)
Yeah I wasn’t joking, he’s the incumbent. I remember 2004. Preparing myself now.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:48 (seven years ago)
eh if the economy stays "strong", or even if it takes a hit following Dems taking back House or maybe Senate, allowing the GOP/ Trump/ complicit MSM to effectively place blame on them, i could easily see Trump winning again in 2020. this is who we are now.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:49 (seven years ago)
Although hey if your miserable fantasies come true you won’t have me to kick around any more, that’s for fucking sure.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:49 (seven years ago)
Killfiled
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:51 (seven years ago)
Here's the thing: how adversely have the lives of most Americans been affected by a Trump presidency at this point? People have become largely inured to the notion of corrupt politicians. They're all crooks, this is what they do, etc. If the actual lives and livelihoods of a significant number of citizens don't appreciably degrade over the next two and a half years, and in a way that is somehow easily attributable to Trump, I honestly don't know if Trump's status as one of the worst living humans is going to be enough to persuade people to rock the boat. Particularly if the Democrats don't offer a compelling alternative (and even more particularly if they think harping on Trump's awfulness should be a significant part of their messaging). I won't be surprised if a lot of right-leaning never-Trumpers hold their nose a second time. Because just like all of the GOP POS-es in Congress, they know that maintaining their control is about more than the paramecium-in-chief.
Clearly, I don't want Trump's reelection to happen (I will be leaving the country if it does), and I don't think it'll happen, but if he even survives that long (which is a super big if), I don't think his loss will be as decisive a rout as we might prefer.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Saturday, 2 June 2018 18:08 (seven years ago)
FYI, it makes me almost physically ill to acknowledge pretty much any of that. But my blind optimism is pretty much depleted at this point.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Saturday, 2 June 2018 18:10 (seven years ago)
how adversely have the lives of most Americans been affected by a Trump presidency at this point?
Having Republicans in charge of health care law and policy has already adversely affected large numbers of people and the repeal of the individual mandate will drive insurance premiums sky high next year. Trump's new tariffs will adversely affect many more. A lot of these affected people live in rural America. It will interesting to see how tribal loyalty withstands such direct hits.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 2 June 2018 18:25 (seven years ago)
the appointing of SCJ Gorsuch & the other lifetime-term federal district court judges may have a much more lasting effect on us than any straight policy tbqh.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 2 June 2018 18:35 (seven years ago)
I do want to stress that I was talking about Trump's perceived real-world impact in the present moment. I do think things will get a lot worse for a lot of American citizens over the next couple of years. It remains to be seen to what extent people hold Trump responsible (when we all know that it's really the fault of Clinton and Obama and Soros and CNN and the monster under the bed and spirit cooking and fluoridated water).
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Saturday, 2 June 2018 18:44 (seven years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/NakXoLE.jpg
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Saturday, 2 June 2018 18:46 (seven years ago)
Here's the thing: how adversely have the lives of most Americans been affected by a Trump presidency at this point?
god jesus, what on earth is your bar for "adversely affected"? i mean, even if you're one of the approximately 40% of americans who are literally cartoon dogs in burning rooms - roseanne got her show cancelled! do you know what sort of a catastrophe that is?
also, anybody who is seriously speculating about the president being re-elected is catastrophizing and needs to talk to a therapist instead of trying to exacerbate the problem on internet message boards.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 June 2018 18:47 (seven years ago)
WASHINGTON — President Trump’s lawyers have for months quietly waged a campaign to keep the special counsel from trying to force him to answer questions in the investigation into whether he obstructed justice, asserting that he cannot be compelled to testify and arguing in a confidential letter that he could not possibly have committed obstruction because he has unfettered authority over all federal investigations.ahahahaaaahshisbdinsnjajhttps://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/02/us/politics/trump-lawyers-memo-mueller-subpoena.html
― maura, Saturday, 2 June 2018 19:02 (seven years ago)
“Ensuring that the office remains sacred and above the fray of shifting political winds and gamesmanship is of critical importance,” they wrote.ahahahahhahahsboobsbosboabaobanbdobdonrono
― maura, Saturday, 2 June 2018 19:04 (seven years ago)
I feel like the safest bet is to begin from the assumption that Trump absolutely could be reelected and then figure out how to prevent that from occurring. Telling ourselves that it couldn't possibly happen in a million years proved to be pretty ineffectual the last time around.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Saturday, 2 June 2018 19:38 (seven years ago)
It's the absolute last goddamn thing in the world that I want to seriously consider, trust me, but if no one who's opposed to that outcome wants to confront the possibility, it feels like we're opening ourselves up to a very rude shock. History is replete with things that could never ever happen but that happened anyway.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Saturday, 2 June 2018 19:45 (seven years ago)
Only one president in the last thirty years has lost re-election, so, yes, assume history is on his side and work to thwart it.
or, as OL said.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 June 2018 19:49 (seven years ago)
is it possible that we've all been misunderstanding trump this entire time?
when he says "NO OBSTRUCTION" we've all been taking it for granted that he's implying "...on my part"
but really what he means is "...because it doesn't exist, conceptually, for a president"
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Saturday, 2 June 2018 19:50 (seven years ago)
Only one president in the last thirty years has lost re-election, so, yes, assume history is on his side and work to thwart it. or, as OL said.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 2 June 2018 20:03 (seven years ago)
tbf tho no president with polling data available has had this sustain level of lower approval ratings
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 2 June 2018 20:22 (seven years ago)
The distinction between "hope for the best, prepare for the worst" and "the american people deserve this guy, after all, we elected him he won the electoral college" is an important one to me. and yeah anybody who sounds like they're taking the latter position is catastrophizing.
Blaming the dems for running a sad sack with a shitty message in 2020 when we haven't even made it through the midterms is also pathetic self-flagellating crap.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 June 2018 20:23 (seven years ago)
not blaming the dems, just preparing for the worst. and I fall into the former camp - not fatalistic, but I remember how crushed & shocked I was when Bush was re-elected when I never even considered the possibility. I’d say Trump is less likely than Bush to be re-elected, but who knows. It’s too early to say anyway
― flappy bird, Saturday, 2 June 2018 20:31 (seven years ago)
Blaming the dems for running a sad sack with a shitty message in 2020 when we haven't even made it through the midterms is also pathetic self-flagellating crap.I want them to do better! But it doesn’t look like they learned anything from 2016. I hope they do soon
― flappy bird, Saturday, 2 June 2018 20:34 (seven years ago)
I don't want to have this discussion again, but we had ample evidence that Bush II would win a close re-election. Trump surprised me.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 June 2018 20:34 (seven years ago)
flappy, go use the pool! It's a beautiful day in most of the country.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 June 2018 20:35 (seven years ago)
It’s about to torrentially rain where I am. I could actually just go outside, it’ll be like going to the pool
― flappy bird, Saturday, 2 June 2018 20:36 (seven years ago)
See? You're already looking at the bright side.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 June 2018 20:37 (seven years ago)
it's swimtime in the USA
https://i.imgur.com/GrQdXnp.jpg
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Saturday, 2 June 2018 20:54 (seven years ago)
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone)
right, yes, yes, "when the president does it it's not illegal", we've been through this, can we skip directly to the part where you resign in disgrace please
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 June 2018 21:22 (seven years ago)
if it's too early to say, why on earth are you spending your valuable headspace speculating about what might or might not happen in 2020?
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 June 2018 21:27 (seven years ago)
Font aficionados will be interested to know that the letterhead on John Dowd’s letter to Mueller was written in Comic Sans. https://t.co/SlisOfxwxj— Amy Fiscus (@amyfiscus) June 2, 2018
― maura, Saturday, 2 June 2018 22:01 (seven years ago)
oh jesus christ is nothing sacred
― capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 2 June 2018 22:10 (seven years ago)
just to satisfy Tom, as with W, he'll win a pop majority next time
hell Biden could be the new Kerry
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 June 2018 01:34 (seven years ago)
honestly if Biden somehow ran and won it might do even more harm in the long run don't @ me
― Simon H., Sunday, 3 June 2018 01:59 (seven years ago)
You guys are fucking morons
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 3 June 2018 02:11 (seven years ago)
hahahahahaha te amo tomboto
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 3 June 2018 02:16 (seven years ago)
(FWIW I don't think even the Dem establishment is dumb enough to run Biden anyway)
― Simon H., Sunday, 3 June 2018 02:24 (seven years ago)
well, unlike Simon or the Eagles, i don't believe in a long run
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 June 2018 02:33 (seven years ago)
Simon.....how?
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 June 2018 02:38 (seven years ago)
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, June 2, 2018 5:27 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
im twisted
― flappy bird, Sunday, 3 June 2018 03:45 (seven years ago)
The guys online I get all my news filtered though said that Dems are running midterm campaigns based exclusively on (get this) “Russia hysteria and Hamilton references” now clearly they have not learned the lessons that I have learned from 2016.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 3 June 2018 04:47 (seven years ago)
You know what Keynes said about the long run
― valorous wokelord (silby), Sunday, 3 June 2018 04:48 (seven years ago)
https://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/mp/products/T812A231MPA1663PT17X18Y0D1013296543FS5363/views/1,width=800,height=800,appearanceId=231,backgroundColor=E8E8E8,modelId=121,crop=detail,version=1912791424/twisted-tea-men-s-premium-t-shirt.jpg
― you bet, nancy (map), Sunday, 3 June 2018 04:56 (seven years ago)
silby v otm
― Hunt3r, Sunday, 3 June 2018 06:35 (seven years ago)
Only one president in the last thirty years has lost re-election
So, one in four.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 3 June 2018 09:00 (seven years ago)
One in five, surely :)
― Frederik B, Sunday, 3 June 2018 11:17 (seven years ago)
― Simon H., Saturday, June 2, 2018 9:59 PM
otm. Biden will appoint SCOTUS justices and federal judges that believe in limiting class action law suits and reproductive rights. He'll sign dangerous executive orders that will allow administrators to bypass Obama federal regulations, and appoint Cabinet secretaries like Scott Pruitt. We gotta stop this dreadful thing from happening.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 June 2018 11:17 (seven years ago)
No, wait, you're right! God dammit, it's supposed to be 'one president in thirty-eight years'
― Frederik B, Sunday, 3 June 2018 11:18 (seven years ago)
personally i don't see how the democrats will ever unseat trump if they stick to their sinister conspiracy to run a manchin/lieberman ticket in 2020
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 3 June 2018 11:40 (seven years ago)
Would thi8nk that anything that might go towards making possible Democratic voters stay home was a positive for teh Republicans and therefore something to be avoided. Hoping that the pattern from elections throughout the year so far might carry over to the mid terms but think they do need more fo a reason to vote for Democrats rather than vote against Republicans because just abstaining is a factor that seems to have contributed heavily to 2016.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 3 June 2018 11:49 (seven years ago)
Clinton/Lieberman is what I've heard. The slogan will be 'Told you so you fucking idiots, now what are you going to do?' although Clinton worries it's too long.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 3 June 2018 11:49 (seven years ago)
i hear clinton is pushing for "We Don't Care About You" as a slogan. i don't know, could work, has that "refreshing honesty" thing going for it
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 3 June 2018 12:47 (seven years ago)
Weirdly, we've somehow had two presidents in the last 30 years lose election!
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 June 2018 12:52 (seven years ago)
also, her plan to conduct her entire campaign on twitter is really playing to her strengths
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 3 June 2018 12:52 (seven years ago)
i've seen the democrats' 2020 draft platform, and it's a winner. it's got a twelve pages explaining thoroughly why george soros was not the architect of the holocaust. also a picture of obama's birth certificate. it's a slam dunk! they can't lose!
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 3 June 2018 12:57 (seven years ago)
Here's an idea: what if the Democrats sneakily made peace with the North Koreans first! Then when Trump gets there they'd be all, sorry, we already made a peace treaty, you're too late. Then Trump would just sort of scratch his head and take credit, and the Dems will suddenly leap out of the Oval Office closet and yell, "it was us, we did it! We made the peace!" Trump will have a heart attack and die, everyone will love the Dems, and then they get the White House and mint a bunch of "in your face" challenge coins and give one to everyone (they can arrange them to be good for a free item off of McDonald's dollar menu, which will now include the McRib and the Shamrock Shake year-round) and people will love them forever and then they can officially and formally outlaw racism forever and fix the roads.
And then they'll lose the election the next time for outlawing racism and fixing the roads, because fuck you, I won't do what you tell me to, I want someone who tells it like it is, not someone who fixes things and outlaws racism.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 June 2018 13:04 (seven years ago)
also, i'm told by reliable sources, by which i mean the same people who keep telling me about the "pee tape", that clinton has already drafted her entire cabinet and will announce it at the same time she announces her candidacy. she believes this will show her strong work ethic, initiative, and her commitment to transparency. henry kissinger is going to make a great secretary of state!
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 3 June 2018 13:14 (seven years ago)
*drums fingers impatiently on table*
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 June 2018 13:15 (seven years ago)
https://media1.giphy.com/media/fpdql5AgW7ziM/480w_s.jpg
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Sunday, 3 June 2018 13:30 (seven years ago)
this thread is off to a dull start, if i'm honest
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 3 June 2018 13:44 (seven years ago)
Exciting Ghouliani soundbite this morning!
"The president has no plans to pardon himself. Doesn't mean he can't!"
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 June 2018 14:27 (seven years ago)
There are lots of things the president can go do to himself afaic.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Sunday, 3 June 2018 14:34 (seven years ago)
Doesn't mean he won't!
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 June 2018 16:17 (seven years ago)
I don’t want Biden to be the nominee either but what’s the basis for “he’ll appoint people like Scott Pruitt”?
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 3 June 2018 18:08 (seven years ago)
That’s meant to be a joke.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 3 June 2018 18:23 (seven years ago)
Oh jeeeze. Yeah obviously now that I reread it. Sorry folks.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 3 June 2018 18:39 (seven years ago)
Melania not traveling to G7 next week, and not traveling to Singapore mid-June. Pretty strange, whatever is going on.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 June 2018 22:47 (seven years ago)
Or not strange at all if you figure she’s a rational person with the means to hire her own lawyers and has decided to GTFO while GTFOin’ is good, before the gasoline-soaked bag of manure she married catches fire.
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 3 June 2018 23:07 (seven years ago)
idk why people assume she's any better than / "above" her husband considering she pushed birtherism publicly
― Simon H., Sunday, 3 June 2018 23:12 (seven years ago)
I just assume she’d prefer to have some money left over. Separating now is a good risk management decision for her and Barron.
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 3 June 2018 23:19 (seven years ago)
She's not going to leave. She went on TV and defended him over grab-em-by-the-pussy! They already lead completely separate lives anyway, so what would be the point.
― Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 3 June 2018 23:42 (seven years ago)
and featuring pat nixon as martha mitchell
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 3 June 2018 23:56 (seven years ago)
the only reason I hope she's not secretly dying is because it might give his poll numbers a sympathy boost
― Simon H., Monday, 4 June 2018 00:49 (seven years ago)
speaking of which
President Trump has 2nd highest "own party" job approval rating since World War II at day ~500, only behind Bush43 (after 9/11) (Source: Gallup) pic.twitter.com/cNhEAjMObO— Bruce Mehlman (@bpmehlman) June 3, 2018
― Simon H., Monday, 4 June 2018 01:01 (seven years ago)
that's not so surprising given how much his party is shrinking/reshaping to where affiliation is congruent and coterminous with "approves of donald trump"
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 4 June 2018 01:05 (seven years ago)
yes, though it further proves that "never Trump" republicans truly have no constituency
― Simon H., Monday, 4 June 2018 01:18 (seven years ago)
now show the graph of increasing partisan polarization
― j., Monday, 4 June 2018 01:40 (seven years ago)
Or the graph of increasing amy poehlerization
― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 June 2018 02:50 (seven years ago)
or the pie chart of increasing your momification
― you bet, nancy (map), Monday, 4 June 2018 04:00 (seven years ago)
Or the point on the graph that points out that pointing out the lack of a constituency for anti-Trump Republicans is worth anyone’s time in the back half of 2018, as if that was an insight
― El Tomboto, Monday, 4 June 2018 05:00 (seven years ago)
Elected Republicans: they don’t seem to have much in the way of principles! Film at fuck yourself
― El Tomboto, Monday, 4 June 2018 05:01 (seven years ago)
that's not so surprising given how much his party is shrinking/reshaping to where affiliation is congruent and coterminous with "approves of donald trump"― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 4 June 2018 01:05 (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 4 June 2018 01:05 (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://i.imgur.com/wMPv8.jpg
People need to see this movie. (It's not quite the laff/riot "sequel to The Producers" it looks like, btw)
― Mark G, Monday, 4 June 2018 09:47 (seven years ago)
(Actually, that laff/riot reference was to a poster of the same file I didn't post, so ..)
― Mark G, Monday, 4 June 2018 09:48 (seven years ago)
More famously a play (which I've seen)
― imago, Monday, 4 June 2018 09:50 (seven years ago)
yeah the film is kinda crap
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 June 2018 11:50 (seven years ago)
As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong? In the meantime, the never ending Witch Hunt, led by 13 very Angry and Conflicted Democrats (& others) continues into the mid-terms!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 4, 2018
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 4 June 2018 13:01 (seven years ago)
hmmm
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 4 June 2018 13:02 (seven years ago)
I don't think Cohen and Giuliani count as either numerous or legal scholars, but okay dude.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 June 2018 13:06 (seven years ago)
come for Melania gossip, stay for the Tiffany shade. from nymag:
This weekend she skipped a family trip to Camp David (which even Tiffany attended).
― evol j, Monday, 4 June 2018 13:23 (seven years ago)
Wondering at what point even the hardcore 'who cares about Melania'-ers will begin to admit that this is strange.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 June 2018 13:27 (seven years ago)
It's strange but the simplest reason for it is probably the most likely - she doesn't want anything to do with being flotus when the potus defends his porn fling.
― BrianB, Monday, 4 June 2018 13:32 (seven years ago)
isn't the simplest explanation still being under the knife?
― Simon H., Monday, 4 June 2018 13:39 (seven years ago)
I mean, yeah, it's probably nothing more complicated than a separation. I just wonder how far down the 'everything is fine and I am fine and I love being flotus' robo-tweet rabbit hole it's going to get before the truth finally comes out.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 June 2018 13:39 (seven years ago)
i don't see what's strange about the first lady saying, in essence, "fuck this i quit".
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Monday, 4 June 2018 13:40 (seven years ago)
I don't see what's strange about us saying, "Who gives a shit?"
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 June 2018 13:41 (seven years ago)
^^^
― Simon H., Monday, 4 June 2018 13:42 (seven years ago)
personally i both give a shit in the sense that bad things (in this case, one assumes, some kind of marital rift) happening to the trumps is endlessly rewarding, but also do not give a shit in the sense that it will doubtless do no damage to trump's standing in the eyes of his supporters and does nothing to further any effort at advancing effective opposition to his administration
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 June 2018 13:48 (seven years ago)
well, amusing rather than rewarding, i should say
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
true, we need to get this thread back to important and productive discussio....
hahahahahaha no i can't do it
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:02 (seven years ago)
I give a shit to the extent that Melania goes directly to Mueller and says 'let me tell u everything I know about the scrotal sac I am married to'.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:12 (seven years ago)
never forget
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DezHKYvUcAUdoS8.jpg:large
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:18 (seven years ago)
Does this tweet seems suspicious to anyone else? pic.twitter.com/aviQcvMuFt— popular comedy account “the pixelated boat” (@pixelatedboat) June 4, 2018
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:35 (seven years ago)
I'll give you suspicious.
BREAKING: EPA aide tells House investigators she did personal tasks for Pruitt, was asked to help get used Trump hotel mattress.— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) June 4, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:49 (seven years ago)
um
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:50 (seven years ago)
i uh waht
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:52 (seven years ago)
I take this to read that it's a mattress Pruitt used IN a Trump hotel -- which is weird enough and begs questions -- but if it's Trump's mattress from a hotel, then even more uh.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:54 (seven years ago)
I dunno, collecting any detritus which poses a grave public health hazard because it's been in direct physical contact with the body of Donald Trump seems well within the purview of the EPA.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:57 (seven years ago)
doing things which fall within the purview of the epa seems distinctly out of character for scott pruitt tbf tho
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:58 (seven years ago)
this is another thing I hate about this presidency, they're so shady and perpetually dishonest that it's turning everyone into truthers
― frogbs, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:59 (seven years ago)
A CNBC reporter mentioned seeing her last week around the West Wing or the like, so I've been skeptical if amused. Supposedly she's turning up at an event in the WH today.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 June 2018 15:00 (seven years ago)
could have been a ghost tbf
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:02 (seven years ago)
As for the mattress
https://www.apnews.com/a21259d0e3a4431791ee32813f838a59/Aide:-EPA's-Pruitt-sought-used-Trump-hotel-mattress
In a letter to committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, they say Hupp carried out personal errands for Pruitt. They include helping him find a place to live in Washington, D.C., and book a Rose Bowl trip. There also were discussions to secure a used mattress from the Trump hotel.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 June 2018 15:16 (seven years ago)
Said event is closed to the press, of course. I'll wait for a proof-of-life photo holding up USA Today.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:27 (seven years ago)
my bet is at this point they are just letting the speculation continue until she shows up like nothing happened. Queue SHS being her horrible self and chastising the lame stream media for freaking out so much about it.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:41 (seven years ago)
"Her nose has ALWAYS looked like that."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 June 2018 15:43 (seven years ago)
she's getting work done to look even more like him
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 4 June 2018 16:02 (seven years ago)
not gonna lie that would be great
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 June 2018 16:05 (seven years ago)
As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself
As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, Congress has the absolute right to define what is and isn't impeachable and in my view, any president who PARDONED themselves has committed an impeachable abuse of power.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 4 June 2018 16:05 (seven years ago)
Lucky for Trump, you aren't among the many Congresspeople who will look in the complete opposite direction when/if he decides to do so (although I look forward to several of them issuing very stern and completely inefficacious Maverick-esque statements condemning such an action).
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 June 2018 16:11 (seven years ago)
xxp If Melania and Donald decided to pursue a whole Genesis P. Orridge/Lady Jaye thing I would totally be there for it.
― Eliza D., Monday, 4 June 2018 16:12 (seven years ago)
too bad half of the people in Congress are sycophants for this idiot
― frogbs, Monday, 4 June 2018 16:13 (seven years ago)
and in my view, any president who PARDONED themselves has committed an impeachable abuse of power
But Aimless, what if the investigation was a total partisan WITCH HUNT led by totally Flawed, Compromised Democrats, and the president did nothing wrong, and the phony "Crimes" were just a distraction from doing the people's true business, which is MAGAing?
Huh? What then?
I mean, in such a circumstance the President has not only the right but the Duty to make the FAKE INVESTIGATION go away, so that he can get back to serving the pee, um, people.
― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 June 2018 16:21 (seven years ago)
brb, changing the DUMPLINGS! autoreplace to PARDON MYSELFs.
― WilliamC, Monday, 4 June 2018 16:31 (seven years ago)
i am exasperated and ready to separate from civilization for a week. here are three things that nate silver said this morning:
1) In general, election-related punditry (i) is a few weeks behind the actual data, but once it catches up to the shift in the polls it both (ii) exaggerates swings and (iii) overestimates precision (underestimates uncertainty).Nate Silver added,
2) So instead of:
"Over several months, the House has gone from modestly favoring Democrats to more like a toss-up; it's a meaningful-ish change but a wide range of outcomes remain plausible"
We get:
"OMG a BLUE WAVE was ALL BUT ASSURED and now SUDDENLY Democrats are BLOWING IT!"
3) ou can also find examples of people erring in the other direction and denying that there's been *any* good news for the GOP.
Need to hold these 3 ideas in your head at once:
1. It's gotten a bit better for the GOP2. It's still pretty good for Dems3. Uncertainty is very high
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 4 June 2018 16:51 (seven years ago)
don't know why i didn't just embed those tweets
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 4 June 2018 16:52 (seven years ago)
uncertainty (and stakes) is high
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 June 2018 16:55 (seven years ago)
this will dent GOP prospects, no matter what the outcome
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/04/immigration-dreamers-house-republicans-617945
― Οὖτις, Monday, 4 June 2018 17:00 (seven years ago)
they finally found someone who looks enough like Melania
https://www.politico.eu/article/melania-trump-conspiracy-to-return-to-public-eye-monday/
― frogbs, Monday, 4 June 2018 17:02 (seven years ago)
I don't see the resemblance myself.
https://am12.akamaized.net/med/cnt/uploads/2018/05/Screen-Shot-2018-05-11-at-10.31.04-PM-1200x785.jpg
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 June 2018 17:08 (seven years ago)
I can't see how any republican would want Trump to stay where he is instead of mild mannered Pence - unless they enjoy how he attracts all attention to smoke screen their evildoing
― Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Monday, 4 June 2018 17:37 (seven years ago)
There is also likely an extent to which the GOP recognizes that formally recognizing Trump's illegitimacy calls into question their own complicity/legitimacy/judgment. If your brain only recognizes the short-term consequences of your decisions, I guess doubling down on a dumb play makes sense.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 June 2018 17:47 (seven years ago)
It's not that they all like him, but the Republicans who dislike Trump are afraid of facing the anger of Trump voters, if they allow him to be removed from office. Besides, working with people you loathe is an integral part of politics.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 4 June 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
Yeah I agree with Aimless re:
I can't see how any republican would want Trump to stay where he is instead of mild mannered Pence
They don't love Trump as much as they fear the thousands of froth-beflecked redhatters in their districts, who will call for their heads if they fail to bow down to the EmperOrange.
― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 June 2018 17:58 (seven years ago)
conspiracy nerds a-frothin'
There was an American witness. Melania. https://t.co/wQOrGHGjL3— emptywheel (@emptywheel) June 4, 2018
― Simon H., Monday, 4 June 2018 18:01 (seven years ago)
It's no surprise yet totally surreal to see liberals attacking Trump on North Korea **from the right**. The significance of the summit is not that it might restrain Kim Jong Un, but that it might restrain Trump from starting a catastrophic war.— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) June 4, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 June 2018 18:45 (seven years ago)
There was that Pelosi comment (which was admittedly terrible and counter productive) about Trump’s cancellation letter and some pundits speculating that he’s “getting played” but is this honestly something lots of liberals are doing? I feel like people are more just worried he’s going to cancel it again.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 4 June 2018 19:08 (seven years ago)
I don't know is it actually beneficial that he goes through with it . Isn't it a kudos getting operation from North Korea.Only benefit I can see coming from this is that Trump looks even more absurd tahn he does already when it doesn't go the way he want sit to.
― Stevolende, Monday, 4 June 2018 19:12 (seven years ago)
Moon may go to the summit, in which case it will be a SK-NK affair
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 June 2018 19:15 (seven years ago)
if you didn't read the Schwarz thread:
And if Trump is being duped by anyone, it's not Kim Jong-un, but Moon Jae-in. Everyone everywhere should support that duping, which could be incredibly good for Koreans and the world.— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) June 4, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 June 2018 19:20 (seven years ago)
Who cares about the world, I'll bet they don't even have an America.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 June 2018 19:22 (seven years ago)
I agree w Schwartz re: support the duping, any semblance of an agreement that avoids returning to the rhetoric from 2017 should be supported. Hopeful that Trump is not talking about it in terms of it being a “long process” etc. problem is Schwarz endorses Tim Shorrock’s reporting in that thread and that guy has been overly optimistic.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 4 June 2018 19:44 (seven years ago)
on the lighter side
The Hill reports:
The Pentagon’s inspector general has officially launched an investigation into allegations of misconduct by former physician to the president Ronny Jackson, a spokesman confirmed Monday.
“What I can tell you is that the DoD Office of Inspector General has initiated an investigation into allegations related to Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Ronny L. Jackson,” inspector general spokeswoman Dwrena K. Allen said in a one-sentence email.
Jackson faces a slew of allegations that he drank on the job, overprescribed medications and created a hostile work environment. The unconfirmed accusations came to light after President Trump nominated Jackson to become secretary of Veterans Affairs.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 June 2018 20:14 (seven years ago)
Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Ronny L. Jackson
heh heh heh
― akm, Monday, 4 June 2018 20:18 (seven years ago)
Rear Admiral (Lower Half)so he was a proctologist huh
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 June 2018 20:18 (seven years ago)
Hey, the surgeon general would HAVE to be a proctologist to ensure that all the BS from this administration keeps flowing freely! (plays shitty political song on the piano while wearing a star-spangled porkpie hat and an expression of weary desperation)
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 June 2018 21:45 (seven years ago)
Only benefit I can see coming from this is that Trump looks even more absurd tahn he does already when it doesn't go the way he want sit to.
Doesn't this just set him up to play the card of how victimized he is, how undermined by the deep state, how unfairly treated by the media? He and his crowd will never admit to having been played.
― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 June 2018 21:48 (seven years ago)
For people who do not read the canadian politics thread, some federal govt. actions that might be encouraging!
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/steel-tariff-maple-syrup-toilet-paper-1.4686833
In retaliating against U.S. tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum, Canada crafted a list of quirky, mismatched targets for its own tariffs that may look more like MacGyver's shopping list than a strategic plan to bring about a change to U.S. policy.From pizza and quiche to strawberry jam, ketchup and mustard, the tariff target list Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland released today seems completely remote from steel and aluminum. (What does hair lacquer have in common with a steel girder?)"This list was clearly drawn strategically to exert maximum pain politically for the president," said Maryscott Greenwood of the Canadian American Business Council."The idea is, you look at a map of the congressional districts of the United States, you look at which members of Congress are in leadership positions and then you look at the big industries in those districts and then you draw up your list accordingly," she said. "And this list was clearly drawn up with this in mind."
From pizza and quiche to strawberry jam, ketchup and mustard, the tariff target list Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland released today seems completely remote from steel and aluminum. (What does hair lacquer have in common with a steel girder?)
"This list was clearly drawn strategically to exert maximum pain politically for the president," said Maryscott Greenwood of the Canadian American Business Council.
"The idea is, you look at a map of the congressional districts of the United States, you look at which members of Congress are in leadership positions and then you look at the big industries in those districts and then you draw up your list accordingly," she said. "And this list was clearly drawn up with this in mind."
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 4 June 2018 22:48 (seven years ago)
heh
― Οὖτις, Monday, 4 June 2018 22:50 (seven years ago)
those clever bastards
― Οὖτις, Monday, 4 June 2018 22:51 (seven years ago)
My Trump Home Mattress Collection by Serta is setting records--they are really phenomenal. You can order them at http://t.co/oeCVxEGZ— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 18, 2012
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 4 June 2018 22:54 (seven years ago)
^^^ a real tweet
So sad.
Fox ad execs are having difficulty selling ads for Hannity and Laura Ingraham. “The pro-Trump thing isn’t working,” one staffer says. “We can’t monetize DACA and the wall and that right-wing shit.”https://t.co/4BfIq9Efxy— Gabriel Sherman (@gabrielsherman) June 4, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 June 2018 23:12 (seven years ago)
Ad revenue is not the only way to monetize supporting the Trump admin though...
― fajita seas, Monday, 4 June 2018 23:19 (seven years ago)
good lede!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:00 (seven years ago)
Hahah!
JUST IN: U.S. Special Counsel Mueller says ex-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort has attempted to tamper with potential witness - court filing pic.twitter.com/9Dcxi9YGyw— Reuters Politics (@ReutersPolitics) June 5, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:41 (seven years ago)
New filing: Mueller's team says there's "probable cause to believe that Manafort has violated 18 U.S.C. § 1512(b) by attempting to tamper with potential witnesses while on pretrial release and, accordingly, has violated the conditions of his release."https://t.co/qKYaCdarwO— Ellis Kim (@elliskkim) June 5, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:46 (seven years ago)
Well, there goes any chance of getting him to cooperate, probably.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:47 (seven years ago)
Good thing he wasn't deeply involved in the Trump campaign or anything.
I mean, I heard he just brought them coffee or something.
― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:48 (seven years ago)
Love too hear about manaforts upcoming pardon
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:49 (seven years ago)
meanwhile, only a 148 or so of the nearly 290,000 documents seized from Michael Cohen are considered privileged.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:49 (seven years ago)
On the contrary, I think this concentrates the mind wonderfully.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:50 (seven years ago)
witness tampering was manafort's plan D. now maybe he'll move on to plan E, flight to avoid prosecution.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:57 (seven years ago)
I'd love to see him try it.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:58 (seven years ago)
my guess is it's that, or else seek asylum in the Ukrainian embassy. the Russian embassy would just be too embarrassing.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 01:06 (seven years ago)
Oh for dumb.
Rudy on Trump Dictating Statement: We didn't lie. It was a mistake! "It was a mistake. I swear to god, it was a mistake. The guy made a mistake." pic.twitter.com/2cAIl6vHKF— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) June 5, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 01:38 (seven years ago)
First time for everything, I guess.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 01:49 (seven years ago)
Giuliani's position clarified: when I take an oath to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, then I don't really need to bother about thinking carefully about what I say, because I can always "correct" it later on when someone notices my sworn testimony wasn't truthful. No big deal. I tell all my clients not to sweat about telling the truth under oath. Say whatever comes to mind. It's not like it matters.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 01:54 (seven years ago)
It's increasingly difficult to argue convincingly that it does.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 01:56 (seven years ago)
Hey, even Mister Rogers made mistakes, am I right?
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 01:56 (seven years ago)
This is something.
Amazing. CNN reporting Pompeo told Trump it would be "counterproductive" to allow Bolton to attend the Oval Office meeting with visiting North Korean official Kim Yong Chol. Non trivial probability Bolton doesn't last much longer. https://t.co/Ri5MCb9LMp— Tom Wright (@thomaswright08) June 5, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 03:56 (seven years ago)
Cadet Bone Spurs cancels Philadelphia Eagles visit: http://wnep.com/2018/06/04/president-trump-cancels-philadelphia-eagles-visit-to-white-house/amp/
In response to Trump’s announcement, former Eagles receiver Torrey Smith, who was a member of the championship team and was traded during the off-season, called the move “a cowardly act.”“So many lies smh Here are some facts 1. Not many people were going to go 2. No one refused to go simply because Trump ‘insists’ folks stand for the anthem 3. The President continues to spread the false narrative that players are anti military,” he said in one tweet.Smith continued: “There are a lot of people on the team that have plenty of different views. The men and women that wanted to go should’ve been able to go. It’s a cowardly act to cancel the celebration because the majority of the people don’t want to see you. To make it about the anthem is foolish.”
“So many lies smh Here are some facts 1. Not many people were going to go 2. No one refused to go simply because Trump ‘insists’ folks stand for the anthem 3. The President continues to spread the false narrative that players are anti military,” he said in one tweet.
Smith continued: “There are a lot of people on the team that have plenty of different views. The men and women that wanted to go should’ve been able to go. It’s a cowardly act to cancel the celebration because the majority of the people don’t want to see you. To make it about the anthem is foolish.”
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 03:57 (seven years ago)
This kind of validates that Jon Schwarz tweet Morbious shared upthread. Very dangerous for the Dems to demand that our insane president achieve an impossible and hawkish result out of the summit.
Democratic Senators to Trump: Any deal with N. Korea must completely dismantle Pyongyang’s nuclear and ballistic missile programs permanently—oh, and please keep us in the loop on plans before negotiations begin.https://t.co/SZD11H4wgY— Jonathan Cheng (@JChengWSJ) June 5, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 04:19 (seven years ago)
Some hilarity here as one Ted Cruz attempts to explain himself in a Twitter thread:
On the question of whether a president can pardon himself, we're seeing an abundance of knee-jerk partisanship and dishonest journalism.— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) June 5, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 04:20 (seven years ago)
wonder how this Eagles thing is playing out in the swing state of Philadelphia
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 12:32 (seven years ago)
lmaooo
We have had many Championship teams recently at the White House including the Chicago Cubs, Houston Astros, Pittsburgh Penguins, New England Patriots, Alabama and Clemson National Champions, and many others. National Anthem & more great music today at 3:00 P.M.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 5, 2018
....@NASCAR and Champion @MartinTruex_Jr were recently at the White House. It was a great day for a great sport!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 5, 2018
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:00 (seven years ago)
Featuring such hits as the National Anthem and more!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:04 (seven years ago)
by Radiohead!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:08 (seven years ago)
greeeat
A “pro-white” marcher in the Unite the Right Charlottesville rally was just elected to a Republican Party post in Washington state https://t.co/dNBg49HLbs Via @KELLYWEILL— Sam Stein (@samstein) June 5, 2018
― Simon H., Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:25 (seven years ago)
The piece of paper certified that Allsup was now a precinct committee officer for the Whitman County, Washington Republican Party.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:30 (seven years ago)
whit(e)man count(r)y morelike
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:34 (seven years ago)
whitman county is right next to moscow, mueller needs to look into this
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:36 (seven years ago)
btw FOX News showing images of Eagles players kneeling while praying and NOT during the anthem (in fact, none of them did) feels extra propagandish
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:37 (seven years ago)
the defeatism this month is really starting to piss me off. people looking at the approval polls as if they make a hen's lick of difference. it takes time and effort to hate somebody, and if people don't want to waste their time disapproving of the president this month, i'm not bothered by it. i know silver is only feeding us obsessives' demand for data, but data is, at this point, of no actual use, because it tells us absolutely nothing about what will happen in november. we have a president who thinks he's andrew jackson but is actually john quincy adams, and i'm not going to predict how it plays out, historical precedent is just as much cherry-picking as polls, but a bloodbath wouldn't surprise me.
i do think the whitman county thing is more important than tombot gives it credit for, because republican party policy is set in places where the republican party is powerful - on the west coast that's out east, places like whitman county in wa and malheur in or. it's the reverse of the problem the democratic party has re: gerrymandering - republicans in cities, which is to say the numerical majority of them, don't count for shit. what counts is the racists who only go to the cities to start street fights with antifa and then go home and elect somebody who believes what they believe to congress.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:14 (seven years ago)
Presidential Job Approval Ratings for Barack Obama, 2010
Approve Disapprove No opinion2010 Jun 28-Jul 4 46 45 92010 Jun 21-27 45 46 92010 Jun 14-20 47 45 82010 Jun 7-13 46 46 8
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:20 (seven years ago)
stop trying to make me feel sorry for jeff sessions you fuck
The Russian Witch Hunt Hoax continues, all because Jeff Sessions didn’t tell me he was going to recuse himself...I would have quickly picked someone else. So much time and money wasted, so many lives ruined...and Sessions knew better than most that there was No Collusion!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 5, 2018
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:21 (seven years ago)
They’re taking a leaf from the religious righr’s book: run for city council/school board and introduce boilerplate legislation c+p’d from [their right-wing think-tank of choice].
― suzy, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:21 (seven years ago)
So many lives ruined :(
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:32 (seven years ago)
I might feel sorry for Jeff Sessions if someone ran him through a human-sized Veggetti slicer. Otherwise, nah.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:33 (seven years ago)
xp okay who the hell is he referring to there? this is breaking my brain
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:33 (seven years ago)
I think we thought it was Hope Hicks? Because the media circus is obviously the worst thing that happened to her.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:41 (seven years ago)
Always safe to assume that Little Lord Flatulence is referring to the one person in the world that he recognizes as real.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:42 (seven years ago)
just to add to this I'm sure FOX will not offer any sort of retraction or clarification on this while CNN had to spend an entire day apologizing for implying that Trumps "animals" comment was directed at immigrants in general, even though it clearly was
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:45 (seven years ago)
i feel like if you're scrutinising trump's tweets for correlations to objective reality your brain might alreayd be broken tbh
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:46 (seven years ago)
(People of the future, please note that bizarro's post was written prior to the point when reality underwent a wholesale renovation during one of our quad-monthly Infrastructure Weeks and had a gaudy, 40-ft. high TRUMP bolted to its side.)
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 15:23 (seven years ago)
(We have as yet failed to recognize that our emperor has clearly been fully-dressed this whole time, but we'll come to our senses soon enough.)
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 15:25 (seven years ago)
ha ha ha like yeah sure there will be people in the future, get the fuck outta here with that crazy talk
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 15:25 (seven years ago)
I say 'people of the future', you say 'horribly mutated survivors of multiple apocalypses who only resemble us inasmuch as they're wearing our tattered skins to keep warm'. Let's stop splitting hairs.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 15:35 (seven years ago)
WH official tells me -- last Thurs, the Eagles submitted 70+ names to attend. On Fri, Eagles tried to resked event for days when POTUS was gonna be in Singapore. On Mon, they said the group avail on pre-planned date wld be TWO or THREE players + owner + MASCOT.— Annie Karni (@anniekarni) June 5, 2018
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 15:38 (seven years ago)
You know you're hot when you can count an inanimate eagle costume among your supporters.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 15:44 (seven years ago)
I didn't live through Nixon, obviously I could read about it but that wouldn't impart the same visceral sense, so: when Watergate was happening, how strong was the general level and sentiment of people agreeing that it was all a witch hunt
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:13 (seven years ago)
Xp Lol anyone whose been alive since like 1985 knows with this douchebag you keep EVERY receipt for future reference. [he still wont pay and you end up in court or writing off loss]. So lets see the player list iggles
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:14 (seven years ago)
I've not listened to all of this yet, but I think it is helpful in chronicling the era and the context http://www.slate.com/articles/slate_plus/watergate.html
― + MASCOT (stevie), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:18 (seven years ago)
GOP didn't turn on Nixon (like, at all) until the Saturday Night Massacre, and even then it was just a handful of Senators
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:21 (seven years ago)
for most of 1973 it didn't register. It took the hearings over the summer and the Saturday Night Massacre later in the year to turn the tide.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:21 (seven years ago)
i remember the Admin and its puppets declaring "One year of Watergate is enough"
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:26 (seven years ago)
I would say things are different now, and it's going to take something much more extreme to dislodge GOP support than the firing of Sessions/Rosenstein/Mueller which at best is only going to (maybe) sway the votes of Hucklberry Butchmeup and Grassley and Corker
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:26 (seven years ago)
House GOP caucus will clearly never turn on Trump, even if a live boy/dead girl is involved
That watergate podcast is so great. All the different forgotten individual players they focus on are fascinating in their own way. I didn’t live through it but really gives you a contextualized and convincing POV of what it felt like to see each new shoe drop. It seems framed to make you compare to what’s happening now for sure but doesn’t push that angle too heavy.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:27 (seven years ago)
"Witch-Hunt" was used in the headline of a Woodward-Bernstein story in July '73
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/19/15659314/trump-nixon-watergate
That's WH staffers being quoted anonymously. To get "the people's" sentiment you might have to check Gallup.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:30 (seven years ago)
I can't find the thread for congressional and state-level politicking, so I'll put this here -- Roger Wicker's Senate seat is up for re-election but isn't getting any ink because he's likely a lock. One of the "Dem" candidates is the venture-capitalist husband of actress Sela Ward -- he was a Republican in California who donated $5000 to Wicker last year but then registered to vote in MS last September. Speculation is that he's just there to fuck up the candidacies of actual Dems. (Primary is today.)
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:44 (seven years ago)
yeah, obviously staffers then and now have and will always call such things a witch hunt, what I'm specifically interested in is the level to which a large swath of the general public also agreed
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:44 (seven years ago)
(and obviously I learned about it in school, but in general, a lot of history is taught in schools as if everyone was on the "right side of history" and objections were scattered and inconsequential)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:48 (seven years ago)
My understanding, katherine, based on Woodward-Bernstein's accounts and Mary McCarthy's invaluable little book is that the case was off the radar until well past the 1972 election, nearly a year and a half after the break-in occurred.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:57 (seven years ago)
since he won a big landslide when the story was barely 4 months old, it took awhile to turn the 'Nixon Democrats.' But nearly everyone who voted for McGovern hated him, I think it's fair to say. Middle-aged Dems had hated him since they were teenagers.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:00 (seven years ago)
The podcast makes the point and (plays clip) of McGovern ineffectiveky trying to make hay out of it during the election (I had previously assumed it never came up) but again was really early.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:07 (seven years ago)
There's also just so much shit going on under the surface that no one knows about for sometimes decades. Was just this morning reading about Nixon employing Anna Chennault to sabotage the Vietnam peace talks prior to the '68 election. Can't wait to see what comes oozing out of our current era 20-30 years after the fact.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:18 (seven years ago)
in 2018 conservatives would think Trump goons doing Watergate is "Cool"
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:23 (seven years ago)
guy's a maverick. plays by his own rules. any means necessary to keep illigetimate dems out of office and save our constityoooshun
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:24 (seven years ago)
hey just a little b & e to own the libs
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:25 (seven years ago)
Was just this morning reading about Nixon employing Anna Chennault to sabotage the Vietnam peace talks prior to the '68 election
That was a big o_O moment in the Burns doc.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:28 (seven years ago)
Also worth noting that he was, at the same time, saying that he wouldn't dream of making any public statement that might endanger the possibility of a resolution. Such pure and undiluted sociopathy.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:34 (seven years ago)
The real crime is all the norms he violated in the process.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
Norm Crosby, Norm McDonald, etc.
― nickn, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:33 (seven years ago)
Was wondering why everything seemed so quiet lately. Then I realized this thread was created.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:34 (seven years ago)
waiting for prez tweet on the end of the Miss America swimsuit competition
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:34 (seven years ago)
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/390784-mcconnell-cancels-senates-august-recess
“Due to the historic obstruction by Senate Democrats of the president’s nominees, and the goal of passing appropriations bills prior to the end of the fiscal year, the August recess has been canceled," McConnell said in a statement.
Turtle gonna Turtle
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:43 (seven years ago)
very canny of him to say "historic" rather than "unprecedented". hell, everything the Senate does goes into the historic record, so when they pass a resolution announcing that ice cream tastes good, it is "historic".
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:46 (seven years ago)
Letter from @LindseyGrahamSC to Dep AG Rosenstein:1) Are you a witness in Mueller’s Investigation?2) If not, why not?3) If so, should you recuse yourself? pic.twitter.com/ni3rvov4dG— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorp) June 5, 2018
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:50 (seven years ago)
1) Are you a member of the Republican party?2) If so, are you currently on fire?3) If not, should you immolate yourself?
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:55 (seven years ago)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9e/ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmC%2BC.jpg/220px-ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmC%2BC.jpg
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:56 (seven years ago)
I truly don't understand what Graham is trying to accomplish there, or why.
He is known to have no Trumpophilia. He's not even up for reelection this time; even if he's trying to avoid a challenge from the right no one will remember this stunt in 2020.
Is the DOJ's internal integrity his "ethics in gaming journalism"?
― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:02 (seven years ago)
First, "if not, why not" is a question for Mueller to answer, not Rosenstein.
Next, the big difference between Sessions and Rosenstein is that Sessions was a member of the campaign who met with Russian officials numerous times during the period under investigation and who could conceivably become a subject of the investigation, while Rosenstein was a witness to various words and actions during events of interest to the investigators, but only incidentally, just as anyone might witness a car accident without having any connection to the drivers of the vehicles, and the police might take a statement from them without their being under suspicion.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:04 (seven years ago)
Is the idea to tar everything so that supposedly there is no such thing as an objective witness. Try to make sure taht anybody who can be thought to have seen anything is enmired in a way that they would incriminate themselves,?
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:07 (seven years ago)
we are all potential witnesses in the Mueller investigation
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:09 (seven years ago)
I've seen some things.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:11 (seven years ago)
maybe Graham thinks he can convince Trump to invade North Korea like he keeps saying he wants him to do if he has his back on this.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:12 (seven years ago)
Most likely some hotshot on Graham's staff dreamed up this stunt and Lindsey thought it was clever enough to gain some attention and get him talked about approvingly by FOX News, conservative radio talk hosts, and retirees in feed caps. So, he had the letter written, read it, and signed his name to it.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:18 (seven years ago)
thanks Aimless - not least for "retirees in feed caps."
― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:42 (seven years ago)
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-asks-appeals-court-to-restore-his-power-to-block-critics-on-twitter
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:42 (seven years ago)
uses his time and leverage wisely, this guy
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:44 (seven years ago)
His butt, it hurts.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:54 (seven years ago)
The Washington Post reports:
Three months after Scott Pruitt was sworn in as head of the Environmental Protection Agency, his executive scheduler emailed Dan Cathy, chairman and president of the fast food company Chick-fil-A, with an unusual request: Would Cathy meet with Pruitt to discuss “a potential business opportunity”?
A call was arranged, then canceled, and Pruitt eventually spoke with someone from the company’s legal department. Only then did he reveal the “opportunity” on his mind was a job for his wife, Marlyn. “The subject of that phone call was an expression of interest in his wife becoming a Chick-fil-A franchisee,” company representative Carrie Kurlander told The Washington Post via email.
Marlyn Pruitt never opened a restaurant. “Administrator Pruitt’s wife started, but did not complete, the Chick-fil-A franchisee application,” Kurlander said. But the revelation that Pruitt used his official position and EPA staff to try to line up work for his wife appears to open a new chapter in the ongoing saga of his questionable spending and management decisions, which so far have spawned a dozen federal probes.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:55 (seven years ago)
Pruitt is like the guy who always tries to talk the cashier into letting him use her employee discount.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:57 (seven years ago)
If you keep having to say it...
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/05/sarah-huckabee-sanders-im-an-honest-person-625914
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:06 (seven years ago)
lmao "America hour" at the White House lasted all of 7 minutes
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:09 (seven years ago)
Next, the big difference between Sessions and Rosenstein is that Sessions was a member of the campaign who met with Russian officials numerous times during the period under investigation and who could conceivably become a subject of the investigation, while Rosenstein was a witness to various words and actions during events of interest to the investigators, but only incidentally, just as anyone might witness a car accident without having any connection to the drivers of the vehicles, and the police might take a statement from them without their being under suspicion.― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, June 5, 2018 7:04 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, June 5, 2018 7:04 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
rosenstein is a witness, imo. he wrote that bullshit ass letter blaming comey's handling of hillary's case as pretext to fire him.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:09 (seven years ago)
Trump unable to remember words to "God Bless America" at replacement event he commissioned to prove his patriotism: https://t.co/LrMPaCEnen pic.twitter.com/oCcWMX9g39— Deadspin (@Deadspin) June 5, 2018
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:20 (seven years ago)
Who gives a swift shit
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:26 (seven years ago)
(no shade carne)
lol no doubt
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:29 (seven years ago)
trump has tony clifton mannerisms all through that god bless america video
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:38 (seven years ago)
As was said on Twitter, surely he's the chief negotiator.
Report: Dennis Rodman is going to Singapore for the summit https://t.co/dSOO0x9liV— Jesse Rodriguez (@JesseRodriguez) June 5, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:39 (seven years ago)
Donald Trump forgetting the words to "God Bless America" during the 7-minute "America Hour" that he had to schedule because an entire football team snubbed him seems like a scene that's going to be played in many future documentaries about the fall of the USA
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:40 (seven years ago)
looks like this is gonna happenhttps://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/05/filemon-vela-vicente-gonzalez-democrats-daca-discharge-624869
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:49 (seven years ago)
xp It's cheap irony, good for a momentary amusement. Now, if he'd forgotten to wear his American flag lapel pin, I'm sure conservatives everywhere would be blasting him for his lack of patriotism, but this is entirely different.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:51 (seven years ago)
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:09 (seven years ago)
apparently there's a new round of deficit hype going on
as a general rule if you hear someone talking about politics and, within 5 mins, it’s not clear what their ideology is they’re selling you one or all of 3 things, all of which are things only billionaires want:—gutting social security—gutting Medicare—charter schools— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) June 5, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:27 (seven years ago)
From four years back, of course.
Dennis Rodman was either drunk or on drugs (delusional) when he said I wanted to go to North Korea with him. Glad I fired him on Apprentice!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 8, 2014
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:28 (seven years ago)
lmao everything that's going to happen from now until the end of his presidency is buried somewhere in his tweets from 2010 to 2014
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:49 (seven years ago)
That McCain mocker from a few weeks back has been 86d
Kelly Sadler is out https://t.co/Aeq4a2XERK— Lachlan Markay (@lachlan) June 5, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:49 (seven years ago)
The sad, beautiful young lives lost because of the partisan WITCH HU... oh, wait
― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:56 (seven years ago)
Keith Ellison leaving Congress to run for MN attorney general, WTF?
― suzy, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 22:22 (seven years ago)
Stepping stone to presidential run
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)
If you're a D attorney general right now, elected or otherwise, you can get a lot of positive attention by suing the present presidential administration. Bob Ferguson in WA has sued the admin like 17 times already.
― valorous wokelord (silby), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 22:33 (seven years ago)
Ilhan Omar, who I loooove, running for MN5.
― suzy, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 22:33 (seven years ago)
About right
Bewildered White House Press Watches Dueling Huckabee Sanderses Each Claim She The Only One Telling Truth https://t.co/lOYFUpVlNJ pic.twitter.com/QTIFndoO9e— The Onion (@TheOnion) June 5, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 22:36 (seven years ago)
Meanwhile, one of the funniest things out there is Jonah Goldberg and Seb Gorka endlessly insulting each other on Twitter for months now.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 00:36 (seven years ago)
Seems about right
pic.twitter.com/JjaCcdiAXl— Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) June 6, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 01:04 (seven years ago)
tucker really has that facial expression down pat
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 01:13 (seven years ago)
This is the best thing all year coming from a Sarah Sanders Press Conference. A WH reporter for Playboy, @BrianKarem yells out "What color is the sky in the President's world?"This guy deserves a raise!! pic.twitter.com/TLdWRAAGL6— Brian Krassenstein (@krassenstein) June 5, 2018
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 01:24 (seven years ago)
Real troll would have asked the question outright instead of shouting it as she walked away but sure
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 01:28 (seven years ago)
In summary:
pic.twitter.com/ZPQ3K2mNM2— Allahpundit (@allahpundit) June 6, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 01:48 (seven years ago)
should've voted for Jill Stein:
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has canceled the Senate’s normal month-long August recess, with a promise to push through the confirmations of more of President Trump’s nominees.
“Due to the historic obstruction by Senate Democrats of the president’s nominees, and the goal of passing appropriations bills prior to the end of the fiscal year, the August recess has been canceled. Senators should expect to remain in session in August to pass legislation, including appropriations bills, and to make additional progress on the president’s nominees,” McConnell said in a statement.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/mcconnell-cancels-august-senate-recess-to-push-through-more-trump-appointees
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 01:56 (seven years ago)
and a move to make it difficult for democrats to campaign in their districts for the midterms
― Dan S, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:08 (seven years ago)
*states
― Dan S, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:09 (seven years ago)
Well, for anyone.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:10 (seven years ago)
this slate watergate podcast is pretty darn good, thanks for the link.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:11 (seven years ago)
Well I...wait.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/05/politics/state-department-heather-nauert-germany-israel/index.html
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:12 (seven years ago)
such a fine line between love and hate
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:15 (seven years ago)
I don't get the good mourning joke ;_;
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:33 (seven years ago)
Such skills
Trump wants Kim to commit to a nuclear disarmament timetable in next week's Singapore meeting, and might offer a follow-up session for Mar-a-Lago in the fall https://t.co/uReAfYBBis— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) June 6, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:36 (seven years ago)
Spokesperson Heather Nauert responds to the press. Can I just? Uh. Jeez. I'm sorry. I can't. I just can't. No. Really. I'm OK. Just leave me alone for a minute. I'll be alright.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:40 (seven years ago)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine)
i know you've mentioned woodward and bernstein, but "the final days" is a generally underread book and reading it gives one a highly distinct sense of deja vu, i have found
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 03:20 (seven years ago)
...Four reporters spotted Melania in the White House last week walking merrily along to a meeting. They never reported the sighting because it would hurt the sick narrative that she was living in a different part of the world, was really ill, or whatever. Fake News is really bad!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 6, 2018
yea she's definitely dead
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 14:54 (seven years ago)
"merrily along" lol
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 14:54 (seven years ago)
i've never merrily walked to a meeting in my life, what's her secret
(apart from being a ghost)
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 14:55 (seven years ago)
Bourbon and Ambient.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 14:57 (seven years ago)
wild turkey and the future sound of london
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 14:59 (seven years ago)
Bourbon and Ambient
Alfred just described the only "a box of ____ shipped to you every month" service I would actually subscribe to
― Simon H., Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:03 (seven years ago)
melania was also at an event that they denied the press access to, so if you want to get your story out there, maybe make some changes you dumb fuck
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:25 (seven years ago)
love that the dude who pushed birtherism for years is now mad that people are coming up with conspiracy theories about his wife which he could easily debunk but chooses not to
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:29 (seven years ago)
Kansas is a sick place.
― droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:29 (seven years ago)
speaking of dumb fucks, james comey everyone
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/doj-watchdog-finds-comey-defied-authority-fbi-director/story?id=55670834
The draft of Horowitz's wide-ranging report specifically called out Comey for ignoring objections from the Justice Department when he disclosed in a letter to Congress just days before the 2016 presidential election that FBI agents had reopened the Clinton probe, according to sources. Clinton has said that letter doomed her campaign.Horowitz's draft report cited Comey for failing to consult with Lynch and other senior Justice Department officials before making his announcement on national TV. While saying there was no "clear evidence" that Clinton "intended to violate" the law, Comey insisted the former secretary of state was "extremely careless" in her "handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.""I have not coordinated or reviewed this statement in any way with the Department of Justice or any other part of the government. They do not know what I am about to say," Comey said before cameras on July 5, 2016.
Horowitz's draft report cited Comey for failing to consult with Lynch and other senior Justice Department officials before making his announcement on national TV. While saying there was no "clear evidence" that Clinton "intended to violate" the law, Comey insisted the former secretary of state was "extremely careless" in her "handling of very sensitive, highly classified information."
"I have not coordinated or reviewed this statement in any way with the Department of Justice or any other part of the government. They do not know what I am about to say," Comey said before cameras on July 5, 2016.
also discussed is dumb fuck bill clinton putting lynch on a box on this issue because of their tarmac meeting
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:35 (seven years ago)
Problems, problems.
BREAkING: new Guardian exclusive. Cambridge Analytica director 'met Assange to discuss US election & channeled cryptocurrency to Wikileaks’https://t.co/c24KXw3eFA— Carole Cadwalladr (@carolecadwalla) June 6, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:38 (seven years ago)
are we all too down in our nihilistic wormholes to discuss the primary results last night cuz Dem turnout shows no signs of abating, and Districts' across the country continue to flip/become competitive
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:42 (seven years ago)
but he's so honorable!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:47 (seven years ago)
and tall!
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:49 (seven years ago)
Comey is a shitbag narcissist, game recognize game
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:50 (seven years ago)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:42 AM
I was going to post in the Democratic Party thread.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:51 (seven years ago)
his guiding motivation has always been to develop/project/maintain his image as UPSTANDING G-MAN NUMBER ONE, and that's it.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:51 (seven years ago)
his reverence for david brooks informs his sophomoric political instincts that back up his bs g-man front
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:58 (seven years ago)
Comey is such a fucking doofus. one of the lowkey worst things about the Trump Debacle is this fucknut being rehabbed into a resistance hero.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 16:16 (seven years ago)
*rehabbed as
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 16:17 (seven years ago)
Image search for a Comey/Guevara mashup yields zero results. So disappointed in the internet right now.
― Buttholt Brecht (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 16:21 (seven years ago)
Comey's best trait is that he wrote copious notes following all his meetings with Trump, which, when you think about it, is pretty crappy to have as your best trait.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 16:23 (seven years ago)
One of my bandmate spotted John Brennan at a carnival a few days ago, wearing shorts and riding the bumper cars with (one presumes) a grandchild. Incidentally Brennan and my dad were on a softball team together in the 1970s.
― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 16:43 (seven years ago)
Kim Jong Un is going to love this. Rudy Giuliani: The N. Korean leader got “on his hands and knees and begged” for the summit to be held.@felschwartzhttps://t.co/0mm9K4n3bo— Jonathan Cheng (@JChengWSJ) June 6, 2018
Rudy is possibly the only person dumber than Trump
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 16:43 (seven years ago)
people made fun of Kim K but she managed to get Trump to actually do something decent, which is impressive
― Simon H., Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:16 (seven years ago)
and I had the same thought:
I wouldn’t be surprised if part of this was a way to give a retroactive black eye to Obama for not pardoning her himself.— T. (@RickyRawls) June 6, 2018
― Simon H., Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:20 (seven years ago)
his motives were not to be decent though but rather to align himself with personalities he believes can benefit him in some way. xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:22 (seven years ago)
plus that xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:23 (seven years ago)
http://phillysketchfest.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Goat-Rodeo-Logo-300x300.jpg
xxxp
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:23 (seven years ago)
Hey, the Worm's got some assist.
Sebastian Gorka announces that he and Sean Hannity are heading to Singapore pic.twitter.com/UwV0uDLUnM— Dave Brown (@dave_brown24) June 6, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:25 (seven years ago)
Grudges, he's got 'em
SCOOP: When Trudeau pressed Trump on national security justification for tariffs on Canada Trump responded: “didn’t you guys burn down the WH?” That was Britain during the War of 1812 https://t.co/tj4iHX7wPD— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) June 6, 2018
kinda wish Britain would do a repeat at the moment tbh
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:28 (seven years ago)
You burn down Buckingham Palace, we burn down the White House, deal?
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:29 (seven years ago)
As someone else pointed out, Canadians *do* take credit for that a lot so him citing it seems like fair game to me
― Simon H., Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:30 (seven years ago)
Canada did something good once?
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:31 (seven years ago)
Long ago.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:34 (seven years ago)
O ancient of days
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:35 (seven years ago)
If the War of 1812 did not happen we probably would not have the Star Spangled Banner, so Trump should be grateful and more patriotic.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:39 (seven years ago)
that goat rodeo image upthread is a+++++
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:42 (seven years ago)
:D
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:43 (seven years ago)
good
this ought to be his legacy forever
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:58 (seven years ago)
btw throwing the election to Trump and then getting fired and smeared by him because you weren't sufficiently subservient is really the ultimate Donald Trump experience isn't it
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 18:05 (seven years ago)
p much
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 18:05 (seven years ago)
Fun times at the EPA.
Wow. EPA spox Jahan Wilcox to @elainaplott when she called for comment on this story: “You have a great day, you’re a piece of trash.” https://t.co/mXpa3Pcgug— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) June 6, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:12 (seven years ago)
How sweet!
I asked Scott Pruitt a quick question about the reports he tried to help his wife become a Chick-fil-A franchisee. "With great change comes, I think, opposition...I love, she loves [Chick-fil-A]" pic.twitter.com/gND2tdMq1e— Jessica Smith (@JessicaASmith8) June 6, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)
Meantime, something new Stormy-wise...
New Stormy Daniels lawsuit claims her former lawyer betrayed her and "hatched a plan" with Trump attorney Michael Cohen to get the adult film actress to publicly deny she had an affair with President Trump. https://t.co/RvYitjrdOO— MSNBC (@MSNBC) June 6, 2018
Attached to the Stormy Daniels lawsuit are text messages exchanged between Michael Cohen and Daniels’ former lawyer Keith Davidson.They’re worth a read. More here: https://t.co/N3ioPrZXlW pic.twitter.com/vV4EkWtlzr— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 6, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:19 (seven years ago)
Further to which:
Wait what pic.twitter.com/WjNgHjhHE5— Susan Simpson (@TheViewFromLL2) June 6, 2018
So, it looks like Trump called in his fixer in to break the news to his wife that he was being sued as a result of his affair with a porn star.— Susan Simpson (@TheViewFromLL2) June 6, 2018
And as long as we're talking Trump and Cohen, how about a different Trump?
https://www.buzzfeed.com/anthonycormier/ivanka-trump-putin-moscow-meeting-michael-cohen-tower?utm_term=.ltOOlN9Px#.lmeDQ6rPv
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:23 (seven years ago)
And what gifts were they bringing?
This one is the most intriguing. Who are “the wise men”? pic.twitter.com/Vqj5EcZ1pL— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) June 6, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:27 (seven years ago)
Can you call me please?
Please call me
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:29 (seven years ago)
U calling?
U up?
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:33 (seven years ago)
Hey
― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:35 (seven years ago)
The concept of "wise men", who stand out of the limelight and quietly advise public figures based on their many decades of experience, is well-established in national politics, but knowing the identity of these particular "wise men" would be intriguing.
Also, Cohen calling Stormy's lawyer "pal"!
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:35 (seven years ago)
being considered a wise man in the trump admin is some real ‘tallest dwarf’ territory
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)
I'm guessing this collection of Wise Men is comprised of...I'll be conservative and say maybe only like 40% former Celebrity Apprentice contestants.
― Buttholt Brecht (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:43 (seven years ago)
OT but Lunch, what about Butthurt Brecht?
― Martin Landau Ballet (Leee), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:51 (seven years ago)
NEWS: Just told by senior EPA person that Sarah Greenwalt, senior counsel to Pruitt, has also resigned. Asking EPA public affairs for confirmation. Comes after another aide Millian Hupp also resigned today— Eric Lipton (@EricLiptonNYT) June 6, 2018
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)
A pizza guy made a delivery to a military base in Brooklyn. A military police officer at the base asked him for his immigration documents, then called ICE, which detained him. He has two kids. https://t.co/hUf2y3XcAE— Josh Nathan-Kazis (@joshnathankazis) June 6, 2018
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:58 (seven years ago)
time to start doxxing ice agents imo
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:59 (seven years ago)
Not to diminish the awfulness of what happened, but you can get pizza delivered to a military base??
― Martin Landau Ballet (Leee), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:04 (seven years ago)
Only from Bombino's
― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:08 (seven years ago)
Sure, sure.
Giuliani on Stormy Daniels: Melania Trump 'believes her husband' https://t.co/dr4RPPwUc3— Allahpundit (@allahpundit) June 6, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:12 (seven years ago)
the fact is no one actually gives a shit that Trump slept with a porn star. The GOP doesn't care, the Dems don't care, it won't sway votes. What does matter is legal fallout.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:14 (seven years ago)
He's done so many worse things, this doesn't even register in the top 25. But I am rooting for plenty of legal fallout, involving revelations of illegal activity much slimier than just him cheating on his wife.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:21 (seven years ago)
One of my bandmate spotted John Brennan at a carnival a few days ago, wearing shorts and riding the bumper cars with (one presumes) a grandchild. Incidentally Brennan and my dad were on a softball team together in the 1970s.― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:43 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:43 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
many xps but I totally misread this as "John Brannon" and got way too excited/impressed for a second
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:23 (seven years ago)
this melania android they brought out today is pretty convincing!
― akm, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:07 (seven years ago)
it helps when the human melania was a longtime resident of the uncanny valley anyway
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:10 (seven years ago)
Don't know where else to post this. Scary
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/06/world/asia/china-guangzhou-consulate-sonic-attack.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=67100509&pgtype=Homepage
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:12 (seven years ago)
eh who needs state dept employees anyway, amirite? I mean what deals did they ever make
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:13 (seven years ago)
p clear that one of the communist regimes (probably Russia, would be my guess) have some freaky new sonic weapon in their spy arsenal
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:14 (seven years ago)
didn't something similar happen in cuba or something?
― akm, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:16 (seven years ago)
Yes, still going on IIRC
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:17 (seven years ago)
oh yeah http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article203221919.html
― akm, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:17 (seven years ago)
Although whenever I read one of these stories I think of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwRvWpsiM2w
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:21 (seven years ago)
hawkwind were ahead of their time
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:21 (seven years ago)
jinx!
It makes me think that we haven't heard from Fred Durst in a while, just saying.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:27 (seven years ago)
p clear that one of the communist regimes (probably Russia, would be my guess) have some freaky new sonic weapon in their spy arsenal― Οὖτις, Wednesday, June 6, 2018 4:14 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, June 6, 2018 4:14 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Russia isn't communist any more iirc
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:30 (seven years ago)
were they ever
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:31 (seven years ago)
― Martin Landau Ballet (Leee), Wednesday, June 6, 2018 2:51 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
As kind of a general guideline for life, I try whenever possible to draw emphasis to the butthole.
And yes, you can totally get pizza delivered to a military base. There's a procedure, and different bases/sections of bases have different clearance requirements. IME, the less secure parts of military bases are almost frighteningly easy to fuck around in (assuming you aren't very obviously trespassing).
― Buttholt Brecht (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:32 (seven years ago)
(Join my 'two hellish years of high school stuck on a Navy base in rural IN' AMA already in progress.)
― Buttholt Brecht (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:34 (seven years ago)
Unimpeachable logic. xp
― Martin Landau Ballet (Leee), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:39 (seven years ago)
Good thread re tariff impacts. Buckle up.
hello, Pennsylvanian in heavy manufacturing here, the supply chain situation is um, extremely not good and getting, uh, extremely not gooder https://t.co/VJ7HDxvztN— Kilgore Trout (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 6, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:39 (seven years ago)
and...
the best part is watching all the people in my industry who were very MAGA for a year slowly lose their resolve about MAGAing and saying out loud maybe this guy doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:43 (seven years ago)
Toomey rightly taken to task in those responses for being a spineless shitbag, it's too little/too late here
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:43 (seven years ago)
xpost Yeah I do love that. (But you snipped out the part burning Salena Zito as well.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:45 (seven years ago)
― I want to change my display name (dan m)
I did this as well
― sleeve, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:47 (seven years ago)
little boy: grandpa tell the story about how you stood up to president?@SenToomey ah yes. it was june 6. i questioned the tariffs as “disturbing”— Paul A. Ticz (@MyPoliticsAcct) June 6, 2018
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 22:06 (seven years ago)
I’m super not into this sonic poisoner device wtf
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 22:41 (seven years ago)
https://gfycat.com/HarmfulImmaterialIndianpangolin
I'm laughing at this more than I probably should
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 22:50 (seven years ago)
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 22:51 (seven years ago)
That's nice but it's only partway to sanity. They may retreat from full-throated Trumpitude but still think the other options are worse. All the same etc.
John Brannon
Did I say John Brennan? Actually it was John Barron. I mean Bannon. Crap. These cats need more different names
― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 22:53 (seven years ago)
I'll take some realization over none.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 22:55 (seven years ago)
I'm laughing at this more than I probably shouldI'm not
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 23:04 (seven years ago)
have we covered this bizarre and hilarious clip from the fema hurricane season briefing today
https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/8p2y7v/trump_in_inexplicably_decides_to_put_his_water/
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 23:17 (seven years ago)
Oops.
Special counsel Robert Mueller's team is requesting that witnesses turn in their personal phones to inspect their encrypted messaging programs https://t.co/UqxymTm12D— Investigate Russia (@InvestigateRU) June 6, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 23:44 (seven years ago)
My stance has evolved
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 23:48 (seven years ago)
https://m.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Is-Texas-ready-for-another-Harvey-12972164.php#photo-15677013
Sixteen thousand people, many of them in Texas, for whatever reason that is. People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane,” Trump said. “That didn't work out too well. That didn't work out too well.”When asked later to confirm if people were out on boats to gawk at the storm, Abbott said he had “no information one way or another about that.”
When asked later to confirm if people were out on boats to gawk at the storm, Abbott said he had “no information one way or another about that.”
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 June 2018 00:07 (seven years ago)
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― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 June 2018 00:10 (seven years ago)
According to sources close to him, all Trump needs to lend his stamp of approval to a new book is positive coverage of the book on Fox News. Trump associates and White House aides all acknowledged that it is rare he actually reads the book himself https://t.co/q5DfW1HvJK— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) June 6, 2018
Six months from now it'll say "Trump associates and White House aides all acknowledged that he cannot actually read above a second grade level, but that the greatest Americans have always communicated in pictograms."
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 7 June 2018 00:19 (seven years ago)
(aide hands DJT an Executive Order) "Mr President, could you please draw one of your funny fuzzy caterpillars with this Magic Marker? It's for a friend."
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Thursday, 7 June 2018 01:12 (seven years ago)
a BIPARTISAN res to limit the president's tariff powers? Every Beltway pundit just creamed his/her pantaloons.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 June 2018 01:23 (seven years ago)
Oopsy.
On April 11, I called Trump’s favorite architect to ask about jobs he did in Eastern Europe that recently drew Mueller’s eye.Within hours, John Fotiadis closed down his 10 yr old architecture firm, deleted his portfolio and left Twitter. He’s still MIA.https://t.co/1hSyqfbARP— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) June 7, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2018 01:27 (seven years ago)
(He's not totally truly MIA, but he is now working for a commercial architecture firm in Montvale, New Jersey, so make yer own jokes.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2018 01:42 (seven years ago)
Hey remember when Assange DM'd Hannity asking him to reach out on an encrypted app?Tonight Hannity is freaking out about Mueller searching encrypted apps and "advised" all Mueller witnesses to "bash" their phones "into itsy bitsy pieces" pic.twitter.com/cZhaUqVNQk— Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) June 7, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2018 01:44 (seven years ago)
The power team is upset!
Sebastian Gorka: "Dennis Rodman is nothing more than a clown who's looking for more publicity." pic.twitter.com/Z0vFLyFoIb— Dave Brown (@dave_brown24) June 7, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2018 01:47 (seven years ago)
― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin)
as long as they can be persuaded that voting is futile and they should just stay home, i'll be happy
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 June 2018 01:48 (seven years ago)
seb gorka not recognizing game : /
― mookieproof, Thursday, 7 June 2018 01:56 (seven years ago)
Was gonna say, that description makes Rodman sound like presidential material to me.
― Buttholt Brecht (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 June 2018 02:01 (seven years ago)
the day after this nightmare is over they're going to tell us it would be too "political" and "destructive" to investigate all the crimes and atrocities currently being committed— Official Centrism (@pareene) June 6, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 June 2018 02:49 (seven years ago)
Probably. On the other hand, tons of cases are already in court and are going to outlast his presidency, that stuff is going to have long-term consequences.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 June 2018 02:51 (seven years ago)
i have my doubts.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 June 2018 03:25 (seven years ago)
Too many constitutional issues have been raised and are going to require being addressed. Some people in trump’s circle are likely to go to jail. I doubt he will suffer any personal consequences himself.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 June 2018 03:27 (seven years ago)
Things are definitely going to be investigated tho. They already are.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 June 2018 03:28 (seven years ago)
I can already see the fight in 2018 being between "investigate and prosecute Trump's circle for the real crimes they have committed" and centrist "OMG you can't threaten to jail your political opponents, are we no better than they are", an argument which the latter side will win and then proceed to lose elections with
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 June 2018 03:33 (seven years ago)
thx Obama
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 June 2018 03:36 (seven years ago)
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Seems like one of his macho posturing things. I don't need any water, I am the ship of the desert!
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 7 June 2018 04:25 (seven years ago)
But Pence just mindlessly repeating the action. Were both bottles empty? Who knows. It just looks ridiculous when Pence monkey-do’s
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 7 June 2018 07:14 (seven years ago)
Trump is going to retain the title President as long as he lives, which in itself is pretty revolting innit?Would love to see him stripped of the title
― Stevolende, Thursday, 7 June 2018 09:00 (seven years ago)
re water, clearing the tabletop of clutter for a photo to be taken I believe.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Thursday, 7 June 2018 10:24 (seven years ago)
― Stevolende,
Considering his diet and that he'll be, what, 78 when he leaves office in 2014 he won't live long
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 June 2018 11:31 (seven years ago)
he's going to live to 120
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 11:35 (seven years ago)
― Simon H., Thursday, 7 June 2018 11:57 (seven years ago)
these assholes always take FOREVER to die
As long as he's stuck in the middle of a human centipede for the last 50, I can live with it.
Get crackin', mad scientists.
― Buttholt Brecht (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 June 2018 11:57 (seven years ago)
no cracks about millenials allowed today
Your morning moment — these photos of newly elected Athens, GA, commissioner Mariah Parker being sworn in on a copy of Malcolm X’s autobiography. https://t.co/1FCID9gTjf pic.twitter.com/P0d0WGoVWU— elizabeth catte (@elizabethcatte) June 6, 2018
― Simon H., Thursday, 7 June 2018 12:29 (seven years ago)
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/391115-hannity-advises-witnesses-in-mueller-probe-smash-their-phones-to-little-itsy
"Maybe Mueller's witnesses, I don't know," Hannity said on air. "If I advised them to follow Hillary Clinton’s lead, delete all your emails and then acid-wash your emails and hard drives on the phones, then take your phones and bash them with a hammer to little itsy bitsy pieces, use BleachBit, remove the sim cards and then take the pieces and hand them over to Robert Mueller, and say, Hillary Rodham Clinton, this is equal justice under the law."
feel like it's maybe illegal to suggest this on air, but what do I know
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 June 2018 13:14 (seven years ago)
nothing is true, everything is permitted - hillary clinton
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 13:18 (seven years ago)
― frogbs
i'd agree that the fight is going to happen, but assuming an outcome is not really warranted. yeah, that's the way it turned out in 1974, that's the way it turned out in 2008. both of which are a pretty good argument for not letting it turn out that way this time. i'm a disgruntled centrist - i think compromise is good and desirable and the best possible basis for government. i'm also persuaded it's impossible right now. the natural tendency of elected representatives to forgive and compromise has been, and is likely to continue to be, checked by the refusal of the people who elected them to allow it.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 June 2018 13:35 (seven years ago)
lmao
.@morningmika just now 👀👀 "I know someone who spoke to Donald Trump recently about life in the White House and @realDonaldTrump biggest complaint was that he's not allowed to watch porn in the White House." pic.twitter.com/6jcs8TAkJc— Jon Levine (@LevineJonathan) June 7, 2018
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:10 (seven years ago)
Pruitt out?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:13 (seven years ago)
who's stopping trump watching porn? does john kelly have him in a chastity belt or something?
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:14 (seven years ago)
LET POTUS MASTURBATE AGAIN #lpga
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)
I knew the '70s were back but man, even acid-washed emails
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)
Appears Pruitt has resigned.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:03 (seven years ago)
Really worth reading: WaPo got audio of Trump's closed-door FEMA "hurricane briefing," in which Trump just rambled about midterm polls, the economy, Foxconn, coal, the popularity of his cabinet, Air Force One, and aircraft technology, among other things. https://t.co/8tsaYtRULJ— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) June 7, 2018
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:03 (seven years ago)
where are you guys seeing this Pruitt news?
kinda would've preferred he stayed in tbh, his replacement isn't going to be any better and a distracted/embattled evil EPA head probably preferable to one who isn't. but idk maybe chaos at the dept is the best we can hope for.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:06 (seven years ago)
at least the Senate won't confirm whatever shitbag replacement Trump nominates
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:07 (seven years ago)
'fuckin magnets, how do they work', exclaims brain-worm-riddled president
He then complained that the military was too frequently buying new and in his view, unnecessary, equipment — citing aircraft technology as an example.“Part of it is, they want to have all new. Instead of having the system that throws the aircraft off the [ship], which was always steam,” he said. “They now have magnets. They’re using magnets instead of steam. . . . They spent hundreds of millions of dollars, I’m hearing not great things about it. It’s frankly ridiculous.”
“Part of it is, they want to have all new. Instead of having the system that throws the aircraft off the [ship], which was always steam,” he said. “They now have magnets. They’re using magnets instead of steam. . . . They spent hundreds of millions of dollars, I’m hearing not great things about it. It’s frankly ridiculous.”
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:07 (seven years ago)
man that mariah parker photo is awesome btw
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:08 (seven years ago)
Love to hear the most incurious man alive deliver his autogenerated explanations of how things in the world function.
― This Bobo Isn't Going to Honk Itself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:12 (seven years ago)
not seeing that Pruitt news anywhere. Where is anyone saying that?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:20 (seven years ago)
instead of magnets why doesn't he talk about the f35, which doesn't fuckin work
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:26 (seven years ago)
It seems that the Japanese PM has quoted the wrong Trump tweet. pic.twitter.com/pAKlbf3wDb— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 7, 2018
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:40 (seven years ago)
nah shinzo abe is famously consumed by hatred of arizona senator jeff flake
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:41 (seven years ago)
jeff flake (flake(FLAKE))
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:53 (seven years ago)
guys there's a new poll!
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/poll-economic-satisfaction-under-trump-isn-t-helping-his-party-n880721
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 June 2018 16:17 (seven years ago)
now let us all completely readjust our expectations since the last poll
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 June 2018 16:18 (seven years ago)
Look, just tell me what to think, huh? Is that so much to ask?
― This Bobo Isn't Going to Honk Itself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 June 2018 16:20 (seven years ago)
Ah yes.
BREAKING: Trump on June 12 North Korea summit: “I don’t think I have to prepare that much. It’s about attitude.” per @justinsink— Mike Dorning (@MikeDorning) June 7, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2018 16:39 (seven years ago)
Can we agree as a nation to not retaliate when another world leader inevitably beats him into a coma?
― This Bobo Isn't Going to Honk Itself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 June 2018 16:41 (seven years ago)
How in the world is Scott Pruitt only 50? He's well on his way to looking like Jeff Sessions; looks like a sphincter, if a sphincter could smirk.
― even in your onion (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:19 (seven years ago)
Is that a trick question? Because he is a sphincter.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:24 (seven years ago)
What?
― Martin Landau Ballet (Leee), Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:51 (seven years ago)
(Trying to work a Wayne's World reference in there if it wasn't clear.)
So exacting!
EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt had his staff drive him to multiple Ritz-Carlton hotels in search if a particular lotion they sell, according to people familiar with his security detail. By @JDawsey1 @Eilperin @Brady_Dennis https://t.co/iNjvKJefBC— Laura Helmuth (@laurahelmuth) June 7, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:28 (seven years ago)
Gee, wonder what Pruitt does with all that hotel lotion.
― This Bobo Isn't Going to Honk Itself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:30 (seven years ago)
What do the simple folk do?
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:31 (seven years ago)
beautiful lotion lives ruined
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:32 (seven years ago)
welp
Pirro interviewed to be the DAG. Sessions resisted. When he resisted, Trump advisors told him if he didn't give her a hearing, Trump might end up giving her SCOTUS https://t.co/wI8My3hMiY— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) June 7, 2018
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:41 (seven years ago)
lol that news oughta keep Kennedy from retiring lol
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:47 (seven years ago)
Nobody tell him he can just expand the SC if he gets Congressional approval (if I have that right?)
― Simon H., Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt had his staff drive him to multiple Ritz-Carlton hotels in search if a particular lotion they sell, according to people familiar with his security detail.
I don't care what he does so long as this administration keeps stickin it to the elites!
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:50 (seven years ago)
that lady is an insane person! i just can't anymore
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:51 (seven years ago)
― This Bobo Isn't Going to Honk Itself (Old Lunch),
it rubs the lotion on its skin
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:52 (seven years ago)
I’m just here for when it breaks that Pruitt had someone shopping for an old coin-operated magic fingers bedframe and a ceiling mirror— Kilgore Trout (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 7, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:53 (seven years ago)
worked well for FDR
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:57 (seven years ago)
I'm sure rising suicide rates are fine and not for any particular reason
― valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:59 (seven years ago)
my off-the-cuff guess would be: increase in the availability of opioids + guns
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:02 (seven years ago)
Judiciary Act of 1789 called for six, but it waxed and waned until the Grand administration.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:03 (seven years ago)
Trying to look at the bright side of this dark dark Pirro shit and hoping maybe that people will wake the fuck up someday soon and stop granting any legitimacy to sucking voids who are famous for simply being on the teevee. Preferably before The Situation is sworn in as Secretary of State.
― This Bobo Isn't Going to Honk Itself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:09 (seven years ago)
(Who am I kidding, they won't and this country/world is uberfucked.)
― This Bobo Isn't Going to Honk Itself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)
and when do you expect this little scenario to happen?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)
wouldn't be worse than some people in the cabinet
I think climate change is more complex than global warming will make it hotter. It has to do with disruptions of atmospheric conditions,ocean patterns, jet streams and shit like that— Vinny Guadagnino (@VINNYGUADAGNINO) December 29, 2017
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)
Per my last tweet about global warming and ppl saying it’s bad when someone from “jersey shore” educates the president etc.I get the joke but why does having a summer shore house automatically make u stupid?No smart ppl ever partied with friends on weekends?— Vinny Guadagnino (@VINNYGUADAGNINO) December 29, 2017
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:11 (seven years ago)
The Situation seems like a really nice and down to earth guy lately I'd take him over whoever is in there now tbh xxp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:11 (seven years ago)
(I know that's Vinny, just couldn't resist)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:12 (seven years ago)
Vinny 2020
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:12 (seven years ago)
not to mention / in concert with generalized hopelessness over the future
― Simon H., Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:18 (seven years ago)
MGTLGA
― hangry like the wolf (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:21 (seven years ago)
the situation's impulse in most conflicts seemed to be vigorous de-escalation, which was an interesting quality in a successful reality tv star and in a president would put him at least as high as jfk
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:23 (seven years ago)
tbf this has always been with us
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:23 (seven years ago)
yes, but given the steady decline of stable career paths / increase in precarious work, I'm going to go ahead and assume it's getting worse.
― Simon H., Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:29 (seven years ago)
I predicted a Chelsea-Situation election awhile ago
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:32 (seven years ago)
but unemployment is at an all time low ! surely that is all that matters and everyone is happy,right ? xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:32 (seven years ago)
Yeah, they're trying that "unemployment is low!" line in Canada too and everyone under 35 knows it's horseshit.
― Simon H., Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)
"why don't you love your shitty job?"
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:43 (seven years ago)
Why is Pruitt such a mega-creepster? And otm above, how is he only 50?
― Yerac, Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:48 (seven years ago)
climate change denial is a helluva drug
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:51 (seven years ago)
Stephen Miller will overtake him easy
― Evan, Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:51 (seven years ago)
A tiny problem.
NEW: NYT: A White House economic analysis of President Trump’s trade agenda has concluded that Mr. Trump’s tariffs will hurt economic growth in the United States, according to several people familiar with the research. https://t.co/Gpwa2liOM8— Evan Rosenfeld (@Evan_Rosenfeld) June 7, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:52 (seven years ago)
well, scrap that then!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:55 (seven years ago)
By "that" do you mean the CEA, because there's no way he's abandoning this?
― Martin Landau Ballet (Leee), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:57 (seven years ago)
Everything. He's scrapping everything. Everything must go!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:59 (seven years ago)
My own analysis of the White House economic analysis has concluded that 'a-doy'.
― This Bobo Isn't Going to Honk Itself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 June 2018 20:09 (seven years ago)
who knew macroeconimcs was so complicated
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 June 2018 20:24 (seven years ago)
Rudy CAN fail.
Yikes. I asked @FLOTUS spokeswoman @StephGrisham45 about Giuliani saying that she believes her husband re Stormy Daniels. Response: “I don't believe Mrs. Trump has ever discussed her thoughts on anything with Mr. Giuliani.”— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) June 7, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2018 20:47 (seven years ago)
Melgiulianiagate
― hangry like the wolf (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 June 2018 20:51 (seven years ago)
someone help! this person is choking!
― Evan, Thursday, 7 June 2018 20:52 (seven years ago)
did rudy's dumb ass get back from israel yet? he's obviously looking at psy group/black cube documents, right?
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 7 June 2018 21:39 (seven years ago)
EXCLUSIVE: U.S. immigration authorities say they are temporarily transferring 1,600 detainees to federal prisons https://t.co/YYzuL2Vk5V pic.twitter.com/arzO0cUvjd— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) June 7, 2018
it would be really spooky if some of these for-profit prison owners just happened to donate to GOP candidates
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 June 2018 21:52 (seven years ago)
Is that even legal
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 June 2018 21:56 (seven years ago)
🤷♂️
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 21:57 (seven years ago)
Bit of an oddity.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/07/politics/justice-department-senate-intelligence-staffer/index.html
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2018 21:57 (seven years ago)
So is the plan to shift immigrants from sub-minimum wage work to slave labor?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 7 June 2018 21:58 (seven years ago)
Yes. Yes it is.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 June 2018 22:10 (seven years ago)
More Pruitt fun
oh my god: Scott Pruitt Made Public Servants Fetch His Protein Bars And Greek Yogurt https://t.co/0ycw7auC9L— andrew kaczynski🤔 (@KFILE) June 7, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2018 22:44 (seven years ago)
Like what is up with this guy?!? It's like Home Alone: White House Rulz.
― Yerac, Thursday, 7 June 2018 22:46 (seven years ago)
Trump's gonna have to pardon a lot more of his peeps to make room for all those incomomg immagrants.
― BrianB, Thursday, 7 June 2018 23:15 (seven years ago)
Well this isn't all further complicated, is it.
Breaking: Stormy Daniels’ former lawyer is counter-suing Daniels, Michael Avenatti and Michael Cohen https://t.co/P29v0GMOps— MJ Lee (@mj_lee) June 7, 2018
(If he was just countersuing Avenatti and Daniels, that'd be one thing, but Cohen as well? No love lost.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2018 23:28 (seven years ago)
Oh well!
JUST POSTED: MANAFORT secretly steered https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1004890337381371904.4M to a company run by two journalists tasked with getting European pols to vouch for YANUKOVYCH. But the journos — @alanfriedmanit & Eckart Sager — dimed out Manafort when he asked them to lie to MUELLER. https://t.co/4OWG0u2CPb— Kenneth P. Vogel (@kenvogel) June 8, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 June 2018 01:06 (seven years ago)
NYT headline is that San Francisco is a “liberal city pushed to the right by urban ills.” The article consists of quotes from interviews with “members of the San Francisco Republican Party” who were gathered at “an upscale sushi restaurant” to watch election results. pic.twitter.com/4BU77c9dc1— Daniel Denvir (@DanielDenvir) June 7, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 June 2018 01:12 (seven years ago)
― Dan S, Friday, 8 June 2018 01:15 (seven years ago)
the SF mayor's race has turned out to be a ranked choice cliffhanger, first London Breed was winning, then when Jane Kim's 2nd place choices were counted Mark Leno pulled ahead, now it's almost a tie, with still many votes still to be registered. could be undecided for another week! no republican in sight
― Dan S, Friday, 8 June 2018 01:20 (seven years ago)
Yeah we’re just sitting back here. Such members of the GOP as around connive and fume but that’s mostly it.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 June 2018 03:47 (seven years ago)
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/07/obamacare-trump-administration-court-case-texas-606930
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 8 June 2018 05:53 (seven years ago)
the countdown to the next WITCH HUNT tweet begins... now
place your bets pls
I am heading for Canada and the G-7 for talks that will mostly center on the long time unfair trade practiced against the United States. From there I go to Singapore and talks with North Korea on Denuclearization. Won’t be talking about the Russian Witch Hunt Hoax for a while!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 8, 2018
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 8 June 2018 11:31 (seven years ago)
mourning!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 June 2018 11:38 (seven years ago)
I love it when he leaves the country.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 June 2018 11:49 (seven years ago)
he doesn't
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 8 June 2018 11:51 (seven years ago)
wait is it a false hunt for Russian witches, or are Russian witches faking a hunt, or are the Russians hoaxing a witch hunt? I thought the Witch Hunt was real?
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 8 June 2018 11:52 (seven years ago)
BREAKING: Trump calls for Russia, ousted from group of leading industrial nations after annexing Crimea, to be reinstated.— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) June 8, 2018
wow that's weird
― frogbs, Friday, 8 June 2018 12:53 (seven years ago)
no puppet
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 June 2018 12:54 (seven years ago)
makes u think
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 8 June 2018 12:55 (seven years ago)
in other news
BREAKING: President Trump says he may pardon deceased boxing great Muhammad Ali.— The Associated Press (@AP) June 8, 2018
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 8 June 2018 12:59 (seven years ago)
i can only assume this precedes trump's conversion to the nation of islam
pardoning dead boxers = his bridge to "my African Americans"
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 June 2018 13:14 (seven years ago)
also, "famous people can't do anything wrong"
― maura, Friday, 8 June 2018 13:16 (seven years ago)
even better if they're dead, cuz they can't object
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 8 June 2018 13:17 (seven years ago)
not the first time that trump has pushed the boundaries of consent iirc
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 8 June 2018 13:18 (seven years ago)
he'll be posthumously making black people white soon
― President Keyes, Friday, 8 June 2018 13:26 (seven years ago)
Waiting for him to pardon Stagger Lee next.
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Friday, 8 June 2018 13:29 (seven years ago)
He's not pardoning himself because he's "not done anything wrong".
so...
― Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2018 13:42 (seven years ago)
Trump on @FLOTUS, per pool: He said Melania is indoors on doctors orders.— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) June 8, 2018
this is so weird
― frogbs, Friday, 8 June 2018 13:55 (seven years ago)
who know she was an actual vampire ?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 June 2018 14:01 (seven years ago)
1. The first lady is NOT a vampire2. She likes bloody steaks, but that's it.3. So she talked to some vampires, who doesn't?4. Ok, she ripped someone's throat out once, but it was an Eastern European peasant5. She's the Queen of the Vampires, but that's not illegal
― President Keyes, Friday, 8 June 2018 14:10 (seven years ago)
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 June 2018 14:11 (seven years ago)
You can call it anything you want. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what you call it. It used to be the G8, because Russia was in it, and now Russia's not in it. Now... I love our country. I have been Russia's worst nightmare. If Hillary got in I think Putin's probably going "Man, I wish Hillary won" because you see what I do. BUT, with that being said; Russia should be in this meeting. Why are we having a meeting without Russia being in the meeting? And I should recommend - and it's up to them - but Russia should be in the meeting, it should be a part of it. Yaknow, whether you like it or not - and it may not be "Politically Correct", but we have a world to run. And in the G7 - which used to be the G8 - they threw Russia out. They should let Russia come back in, because we should have Russia at the negotiating table.
― pomenitul, Friday, 8 June 2018 14:34 (seven years ago)
Beyond the headlines, every now and then I need a reminder of what a moron he is, linguistically speaking.
― pomenitul, Friday, 8 June 2018 14:35 (seven years ago)
If Hillary got in I think Putin's probably going "Man, I wish Hillary won" because you see what I do.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 8 June 2018 14:48 (seven years ago)
those stories about the dangers of asbestos? fake news, folks
In a 1997 book, Donald Trump claimed that the push to remove asbestos from buildings "was led by the mob, because it was often mob-related companies that would do the asbestos removal." https://t.co/sNRz97PT2M— MSNBC (@MSNBC) June 8, 2018
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 8 June 2018 14:48 (seven years ago)
I thought pomenitul quote was a joke impersonation, because i didnt think he’d be so trumply fucking blankly stupid
― Hunt3r, Friday, 8 June 2018 15:04 (seven years ago)
He is going to end up supporting the reannexation of baltics u know. Also nato is a bad deal u know.
― Hunt3r, Friday, 8 June 2018 15:07 (seven years ago)
Trump also apparently said Melania surgery was 4 hours long and she can't fly for a month (?).
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 June 2018 15:37 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NxSDaNTlwM&t=461
"well, it's an asbestos company run by kids. that's the hook. all kids, all asbestos, all the time. we have fun, 'cause it's - we make it fun to work there. we make it fun to make - we put the fun back in asbestos."
jason penopolis for president?
― maura, Friday, 8 June 2018 15:40 (seven years ago)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NxSDaNTlwM&t=461
Of course there's the danger that the body rejects the angel wings
― President Keyes, Friday, 8 June 2018 15:51 (seven years ago)
Thanks to my loyal sponsors from @potcoin and my team at @Prince_Mrketing , I will be flying to Singapore for the historical Summit. I'll give whatever support is needed to my friends, @realDonaldTrump and Marshall Kim Jong Un. pic.twitter.com/QGPZ8nPrBE— Dennis Rodman (@dennisrodman) June 8, 2018
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 June 2018 16:37 (seven years ago)
http://uploads.neatorama.com/images/posts/383/92/92383/1472785944-0.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 June 2018 16:43 (seven years ago)
Where does this go:
From the Editorial Board: Longtime columnist Charles Krauthammer says his cancer has returned and he has weeks to live https://t.co/9Bg6HonDae— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) June 8, 2018
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 June 2018 16:49 (seven years ago)
the NRO or Shakey-writes-an-obit thread.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 June 2018 16:51 (seven years ago)
show of hands who's willing to mercifully push him down a staircase
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 June 2018 16:52 (seven years ago)
Mercifully for us.
― Eliza D., Friday, 8 June 2018 16:59 (seven years ago)
they often tell you not to fly after some surgeries due to air pressure changes but I think the risk itself is very low
― akm, Friday, 8 June 2018 17:16 (seven years ago)
not for kidney surgery though I don't think.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 June 2018 17:22 (seven years ago)
fwiw family member is about to have surgery related to liver and dr says "no international travel for 3 months, US for 6-8 weeks. I should be fine after 4-6 weeks but probably the first month I'm mostly at home doing nothing"
― dan selzer, Friday, 8 June 2018 17:29 (seven years ago)
As for Krauthammer, "the evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with the bones" pretty well sums it up for me.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 8 June 2018 17:30 (seven years ago)
in other news― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, June 8, 2018 10:59 PM (yesterday) i can only assume this precedes trump's conversion to the nation of islam― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, June 8, 2018 10:59 PM (yesterday) pardoning dead boxers = his bridge to "my African Americans"― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, June 8, 2018 11:14 PM (yesterday) also, "famous people can't do anything wrong"― maura, Friday, June 8, 2018 11:16 PM (yesterday) even better if they're dead, cuz they can't object― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, June 8, 2018 11:17 PM (yesterday) not the first time that trump has pushed the boundaries of consent iirc― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, June 8, 2018 11:18 PM (yesterday) he'll be posthumously making black people white soon― President Keyes, Friday, June 8, 2018 11:26 PM (yesterday) Waiting for him to pardon Stagger Lee next.― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Friday, June 8, 2018 11:29 PM (yesterday)
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, June 8, 2018 10:59 PM (yesterday)
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, June 8, 2018 11:14 PM (yesterday)
― maura, Friday, June 8, 2018 11:16 PM (yesterday)
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, June 8, 2018 11:17 PM (yesterday)
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, June 8, 2018 11:18 PM (yesterday)
― President Keyes, Friday, June 8, 2018 11:26 PM (yesterday)
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Friday, June 8, 2018 11:29 PM (yesterday)
please also note that there has not been a conviction standing against Ali since 1971, and all draft evaders were pardoned in 1977. apart from the dumb, obvious racial optics, dude is establishing that the president CAN pardon someone even when they haven't done anything wrong.
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Friday, 8 June 2018 17:34 (seven years ago)
Breaking: Donald Trump says he is likely to support ending federal ban on marijuana https://t.co/5gwp7Sl0re pic.twitter.com/HIwneF9pp5— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) June 8, 2018
if the Dems get beaten to the punch on this then they deserve to lose everything from now until forever
― frogbs, Friday, 8 June 2018 17:53 (seven years ago)
ok
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 8 June 2018 17:56 (seven years ago)
That’s just another “fuck you” to Jeff Sessions
― Οὖτις, Friday, 8 June 2018 17:57 (seven years ago)
I would say thats as believable as his gun control proposals
yeah the motherfucker sure says a lot of things, what a thing-sayer
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 8 June 2018 17:58 (seven years ago)
sorry dems!
right but none of the POC who are in jail for w33d related crimes will be pardoned so JS can still hsve his way also some billionaire probably wants to open a weed farm in NoVA
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 8 June 2018 17:58 (seven years ago)
The Jack Johnson and possible Ali pardons are so bizarre, I never would have guessed his involvement with boxing got to the level of actually knowing the name of any boxers.
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 8 June 2018 18:04 (seven years ago)
He should pardon DB Cooper and the real killers of JFK just to see if they come out of hiding
― President Keyes, Friday, 8 June 2018 18:06 (seven years ago)
trump brand hash oils
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 8 June 2018 18:10 (seven years ago)
Ibongka
― hangry like the wolf (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 8 June 2018 18:10 (seven years ago)
btw I know he's incredibly unlikely to do anything because he answers "we're considering that...we'll see..." to literally everything but it's all about ~*messaging*~ at this point, just think of how difficult it was to kill off that "most pro LGBTQ president ever" thing
― frogbs, Friday, 8 June 2018 18:15 (seven years ago)
BREAKING Paul Manafort charged with additional counts of witness tampering and obstruction of justice, that is intimidation or force against a witness. Earlier: https://t.co/1ZFYv58Clq pic.twitter.com/SU6U50mZy7— Spencer Hsu (@hsu_spencer) June 8, 2018
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 June 2018 18:23 (seven years ago)
Can we all please start chanting "Lock him up!"? Or would that be too derivative and lowbrow?
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 8 June 2018 18:28 (seven years ago)
my god wont you please think of the decorum
― frogbs, Friday, 8 June 2018 18:32 (seven years ago)
The Left Can't Scream
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 8 June 2018 18:37 (seven years ago)
so Manafort just got indicted for the 37th time
― frogbs, Friday, 8 June 2018 18:41 (seven years ago)
Putin must be laughing his ass off at how this is all playing out
― Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Friday, 8 June 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)
In Russia ass laughs YOU off
― Οὖτις, Friday, 8 June 2018 19:56 (seven years ago)
c'mon, Shakes, we waited for you to say something about Kraut.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 June 2018 20:01 (seven years ago)
irl lol shakey
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 8 June 2018 20:09 (seven years ago)
The expanded full quote is just ...
“I have been Russia’s worst nightmare,” Trump said. “If Hillary got in I think Putin is probably going ‘man I wish Hillary won,’ because you see what I do. But, with that being said, Russia should be in this meeting. Why are we having a meeting without Russia being in the meeting?”The president added: “It may not be politically correct, but we have a world to run. And in the G7, which used to be the G8, they threw Russia out. They should let Russia come back in. Because we should have Russia at the negotiating table.”
The president added: “It may not be politically correct, but we have a world to run. And in the G7, which used to be the G8, they threw Russia out. They should let Russia come back in. Because we should have Russia at the negotiating table.”
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 8 June 2018 20:09 (seven years ago)
My feelings about krauthammer are well established, I would hope
― Οὖτις, Friday, 8 June 2018 20:14 (seven years ago)
we have a world to run
out of the mouths of babes
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 8 June 2018 20:14 (seven years ago)
Man, my Twitter followers are having an absolute field day about that Krauthammer guy dying of cancer. Jesus fucking Christ.
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 8 June 2018 20:35 (seven years ago)
Fuck him. War criminal imo.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 8 June 2018 20:35 (seven years ago)
He is not someone I'll mourn. Just stopping there because cackling with glee is nagl
― hangry like the wolf (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 8 June 2018 20:38 (seven years ago)
Interesting point being made that of all the charges against Manafort, working as an unregistered foreign agent is the least of them, and least likely to lead to jail time. So why witness tamper for the sake of trying to weaken that charge? He's ended up in a far worse place. Which implies that maybe there is more there than we know.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 June 2018 21:14 (seven years ago)
Interesting point being made that of all the charges against Manafort, working as an unregistered foreign agent not colluding! NO COLLUSION! is the least of them, and least likely to lead to jail time being very unfairly treated. So why witness tamper for the sake of trying to weaken that charge? He's ended up in a far worse place. Which implies that maybe there is more there than we know WITCH HUNT!
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 8 June 2018 21:29 (seven years ago)
gowanus in the news
USA Today says the assessed market value of the properties bought by the Kushner venture for $72.5 million, to start this series of transactions, was $3 million.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/06/07/cozy-land-deals-meant-big-money-trump-family-and-friends/677126002
― mookieproof, Friday, 8 June 2018 21:32 (seven years ago)
He sets the terms of the G7, he sets the terms of what the press focuses on more than media wants to realize, he sets the terms of engagement over and over. All while arguing he is a victim of seen and unseen forces. https://t.co/KLofoRsAPh— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) June 8, 2018
so sick of her bullshit! you're part of the god damn problem Maggie
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 June 2018 21:36 (seven years ago)
ugh yeah
― Οὖτις, Friday, 8 June 2018 21:41 (seven years ago)
It's like colonel sanders tweeting about how horrible the fast food industry is for making people fat. Fucking infuriating
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 June 2018 21:49 (seven years ago)
I love that maggie well do a heinous tweet, get super fucking defensive and get in the mud with people in her menchies, then use 'im bad at twitter' as an excuse.. maybe stop fucking posting then?
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 8 June 2018 23:09 (seven years ago)
that is otm
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 9 June 2018 00:10 (seven years ago)
So why witness tamper for the sake of trying to weaken that charge
Maybe because he's an entitled jackass who thinks he's above the law no matter what he does - and has plenty of evidence to back up that belief - but ultimately at heart like all these people he's a fucking moron? Occam's Razor plz
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 9 June 2018 00:13 (seven years ago)
otm. he sees a Justice Dept. special counsel investigation as just another system he can game his way past, like he always has before.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 9 June 2018 00:30 (seven years ago)
Man, there is so much greasy money rolling around in US politics with those 501 groups, Those groups don't have to say who gave them the money, it could be from literally anywhere and from anyone, Manifort is just one fish in a big oily sea. It is pretty much legalized institutional graft.
Beyond whatever happened with Russia, that is just one part of the sludge pile. And both parties and their partisans are deep in that muck.
― earlnash, Saturday, 9 June 2018 01:00 (seven years ago)
used to work in the office next to krauthammer’s. fuck him tbh
― maura, Saturday, 9 June 2018 01:25 (seven years ago)
he used to come into the bookstore where i worked. unlike several other DC figures, he was neither creepy nor a dick. but yeah
― mookieproof, Saturday, 9 June 2018 01:29 (seven years ago)
When people are actively trying to kill you you are allowed to cheer their demise gtfo everyone
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 9 June 2018 01:37 (seven years ago)
― President Keyes
he should pardon ted cruz's dad?
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 9 June 2018 12:11 (seven years ago)
Read that Roger Stone was trying to get Trump to pardon Marcus Garvey. If Trump manages to somehow taint reggae along with everything else I will be extra pissed.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 June 2018 13:03 (seven years ago)
Re: Manafort, I'm sure he is an entitled arrogant asshole, but surely* his lawyers told him that the unregistered foreign agent charge was minor and not worth focusing on. That that is the charge we know he tried to tamper with speaks volumes, not the really legally bad stuff but the most seemingly inconsequential of the indictments. Maybe we'll find out there was more tampering going on, but the fact that this action also snagged Konstantin Kilimnik - literally a Russian operative middleman/possible spy - I still say shows what may be weighing on Manafort's mind more than the money laundering.
*I am sure of nothing anymore.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 June 2018 13:08 (seven years ago)
The imprint of French President Emmanuel Macron's thumb can be seen across the back of Trump's hand after they shook hands at the G7. Great frame from @LeahMillis pic.twitter.com/VA8RlkYX8a— corinne_perkins (@corinne_perkins) June 8, 2018
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Saturday, 9 June 2018 14:07 (seven years ago)
at least krathhammer dies hating Trump so he regained one tiny smidgen of respect for him
― akm, Saturday, 9 June 2018 15:34 (seven years ago)
Corey Long, one of the Charlottesville rally protestors (protecting himself and another with a makeshift can/flame) was just found guilty and sentenced to a year, all but 20 days suspended. Residents took to the street to protest and were arrested, including a person in a wheelchair who is in the wheelchair due to the white supremacist plowing through the crowd last July. http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/city/activists-upset-by-corey-long-conviction-arrested-during-protest/article_73bebb1a-6b93-11e8-be35-1f7666f3511e.html
― Yerac, Saturday, 9 June 2018 15:52 (seven years ago)
correction, last August.
I wonder if Trump's starting to regret the strong-arm handshakes now that every world leader is using their handshake as an opportunity to mash the living fuck out of his hand
― Dan I., Saturday, 9 June 2018 16:06 (seven years ago)
die of a heart attack you fucking imbecile
“It’s going to stop. Or we’ll stop trading with them. And that’s a very profitable answer, if we have to do it,” Mr. Trump said, adding that “We’re like the piggy bank that everybody’s robbing and that ends.”...Several of the leaders responded aggressively to Mr. Trump’s demands — as they have repeatedly in public — listing their own complaints about American policies on tariffs and other trade measures, the official said. Several countries have said publicly they will retaliate against the United States’ new steel and aluminum tariffs with increased tariffs of their own.“If they retaliate, they’re making a mistake,” Mr. Trump said, suggesting that the trade imbalance between the United States and those countries would make tariff increases more destructive for their economies.In his remarks to questions on Saturday, Mr. Trump repeatedly insisted that the private discussions with his counterparts had been positive, saying that "the relationship that I’ve had with the people, the leaders of these countries has been — I would really rate it on the scale of zero to 10, I would rate it a 10.”...Mr. Trump said some of the other leaders he met with during the Group of 7 summit appeared to admit that their trade arrangements with the United States were unfair.“A lot of these countries actually smile at me when I’m talking,” he said. “And the smile is, ‘we couldn’t believe we got away with it.’ That’s the smile.”That assessment by Mr. Trump stands in contrast to the public statements by those leaders, who have repeatedly insisted that they will not accept the kinds of tariffs that Mr. Trump has imposed on their industries....Mr. Trump also blamed former President Barack Obama for Russia’s invasion, in which the country sent troops into Crimea. Mr. Trump said that it was Mr. Obama who should take responsibility for Russia’s actions.“Crimea was let go during the Obama administration, and you know, Obama can say all he wants, but he allowed Russia to take Crimea,” the president said. “I may have had a much different attitude, but, so, you really have to ask that question to President Obama. You know, why did he do that?”
...Several of the leaders responded aggressively to Mr. Trump’s demands — as they have repeatedly in public — listing their own complaints about American policies on tariffs and other trade measures, the official said. Several countries have said publicly they will retaliate against the United States’ new steel and aluminum tariffs with increased tariffs of their own.
“If they retaliate, they’re making a mistake,” Mr. Trump said, suggesting that the trade imbalance between the United States and those countries would make tariff increases more destructive for their economies.
In his remarks to questions on Saturday, Mr. Trump repeatedly insisted that the private discussions with his counterparts had been positive, saying that "the relationship that I’ve had with the people, the leaders of these countries has been — I would really rate it on the scale of zero to 10, I would rate it a 10.”
...Mr. Trump said some of the other leaders he met with during the Group of 7 summit appeared to admit that their trade arrangements with the United States were unfair.
“A lot of these countries actually smile at me when I’m talking,” he said. “And the smile is, ‘we couldn’t believe we got away with it.’ That’s the smile.”
That assessment by Mr. Trump stands in contrast to the public statements by those leaders, who have repeatedly insisted that they will not accept the kinds of tariffs that Mr. Trump has imposed on their industries.
...Mr. Trump also blamed former President Barack Obama for Russia’s invasion, in which the country sent troops into Crimea. Mr. Trump said that it was Mr. Obama who should take responsibility for Russia’s actions.
“Crimea was let go during the Obama administration, and you know, Obama can say all he wants, but he allowed Russia to take Crimea,” the president said. “I may have had a much different attitude, but, so, you really have to ask that question to President Obama. You know, why did he do that?”
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/world/americas/donald-trump-g7-nafta.html
anyone got an ebook of this
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41BK23E2V0L._SX287_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Saturday, 9 June 2018 16:23 (seven years ago)
Macron is v adept at making sure he never looks displeased to see Trump, seemed actually delighted by his late arrival to the gender equality session (probably a lot of relief around the room at his initial absence).
― nashwan, Saturday, 9 June 2018 17:20 (seven years ago)
I would really rate it on the scale of zero to 10, I would rate it a 10.
that means big tits, right?
― emotional support legume (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 9 June 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
Macron to Trump on JCPOA "You’re not comfortable with an agreement signed by your predecessor, maybe just because it was signed by your predecessor, but don’t stop others from respecting it and don’t push Iran to leave, because that’s the best protection we have today." #G7Summit— Julian Borger (@julianborger) June 7, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Saturday, 9 June 2018 20:50 (seven years ago)
Angela Merkel's office has released this photo taken today at the G7, which tells you a lot about how things went. pic.twitter.com/IXX6K3ayys— David Mack (@davidmackau) June 9, 2018
― koogs, Saturday, 9 June 2018 21:05 (seven years ago)
god just look at that petulant giant toddler
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 9 June 2018 21:07 (seven years ago)
lol, good work trudeau
Trump's draft-dodging grandfather, who was deported from Germany, ran a BROTHEL in Canada. @JustinTrudeau just trolled Trump in the most amazing way, so yes Sarah, it was a great moment.https://t.co/1sCSGN09KI https://t.co/wAptgB7iSh— Polly Sigh (@dcpoll) June 9, 2018
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 9 June 2018 21:25 (seven years ago)
that picture is incredible
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 9 June 2018 21:54 (seven years ago)
I had forgotten the face of John Bolton. I was happy, then.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 9 June 2018 22:01 (seven years ago)
Trump looks pretty chill in that photo tbh
― President Keyes, Saturday, 9 June 2018 22:18 (seven years ago)
Surely the people in that room collectively have the power to make him just...disappear.
― This Bobo Isn't Going to Honk Itself (Old Lunch), Saturday, 9 June 2018 22:39 (seven years ago)
“Canadians amused by the improbable presidential run of Donald Trump...”the lede of that 2015 cbc piece. sigh
― maura, Saturday, 9 June 2018 23:08 (seven years ago)
posting in full because none of this is real anymore
LA MALBAIE, Quebec (AP) — President Donald Trump threw the G-7 summit into disarray Saturday, tweeting that the U.S. was pulling back its endorsement of the group’s communique in part because of what he called Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s “false statements” at a news conference.Trump’s tweets from Air Force One, which was flying him to Singapore for next week’s summit with North Korea’s Kim Jong Un, came just as Canada released the group’s official communique, which took a generally positive view of the leaders’ positions on trade matters even though there were tensions with the U.S.In a pair of tweets, Trump lashed out at his G-7 host, accusing its leader of being dishonest and weak and contending that Canada had taken advantage of U.S. interests. A few hours earlier, Trudeau had told reporters that all seven leaders had come together to sign a joint declaration.“Based on Justin’s false statements at his news conference, and the fact that Canada is charging massive Tariffs to our U.S. farmers, workers and companies, I have instructed our U.S. Reps not to endorse the Communique as we look at Tariffs on automobiles flooding the U.S. Market!” the president tweeted.He followed up by tweeting: “PM Justin Trudeau of Canada acted so meek and mild during our @G7 meetings only to give a news conference after I left saying that, “US Tariffs were kind of insulting” and he “will not be pushed around.” Very dishonest & weak. Our Tariffs are in response to his of 270% on dairy!”
“Based on Justin’s false statements at his news conference, and the fact that Canada is charging massive Tariffs to our U.S. farmers, workers and companies, I have instructed our U.S. Reps not to endorse the Communique as we look at Tariffs on automobiles flooding the U.S. Market!” the president tweeted.
He followed up by tweeting: “PM Justin Trudeau of Canada acted so meek and mild during our @G7 meetings only to give a news conference after I left saying that, “US Tariffs were kind of insulting” and he “will not be pushed around.” Very dishonest & weak. Our Tariffs are in response to his of 270% on dairy!”
"justin's false statements"
what a fucking asshole
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 June 2018 01:13 (seven years ago)
i can't believe it took him 18 whole months to start a trade war
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 10 June 2018 01:23 (seven years ago)
All I know how to say in response to news these days is "cool, cool, cool," but it's the "cool, cool, cool" of someone who is about to be run over by a steamroller and knows that isn't really cool.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 10 June 2018 01:24 (seven years ago)
it's not just bullying, it's bullying that is literally of the 3rd to 4th grade style. a few years back i was at some event that involved someone else's extended family. there were all these people there i had never before met and probably never will again. still, i tried to be polite with everybody and asked them questions and got to know them a bit. somehow i ended up playing a game of chess against a precocious 8-year-old while his family watched and cheered him on. i'm not very good at chess and my end game is terrible, but i understand the rules and i can usually at least avoid obvious fatal mistakes, so i thought i could take this kid without much effort. i did some stupid things near the end, but eventually i cornered his king with a couple of my pieces and i thought it was over. the mood had gotten really sour in the room as the endgame approached, but suddenly they all lit up with laughter and joy as one of them noticed that we were in a stalemate condition, meaning that the game would be declared a draw. honestly i didn't fully understand the conditions and ramifications of a statemate, until they gleefully explained it to me. but they were so fucking happy that it was a draw and not a loss, the kid was trash talking me and the family was high-fiving each other and shouting and pulling in people from the kitchen to explain what had happened and laugh together. trump reminds me of that kid
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 June 2018 01:27 (seven years ago)
Starting to really get worried about how this NK summit is gonna go
― frogbs, Sunday, 10 June 2018 01:30 (seven years ago)
The only other thing I know to say is VOTE, VOTE, VOTE YOU FUCKERS
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 10 June 2018 01:36 (seven years ago)
it's bullying that is literally of the 3rd to 4th grade styleHe has freely said, in one of his only two introspective statements ever, that his personality has not changed since he was seven or eight years old and judged a problem child by his school
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Sunday, 10 June 2018 01:37 (seven years ago)
I honestly hope they poison him.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 10 June 2018 01:38 (seven years ago)
xp I suppose one is forced to ask what it is about the nature of US politics which has allowed this personality to rise to its zenith #trenchantcommentary
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 10 June 2018 01:51 (seven years ago)
Fingers crossed, unperson
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 10 June 2018 01:55 (seven years ago)
that was a very engrossing story about the chess game, but I'm stoned. I want more.
― akm, Sunday, 10 June 2018 02:04 (seven years ago)
Never spent so much time wishing death upon someone.
Lately I've been wishing that he would shit himself to death during a speech.
It's a bummer to focus so much on hopes of misery.
― Cow_Art, Sunday, 10 June 2018 02:17 (seven years ago)
Every so often, my perspective shifts and I feel awed and grateful and humbled to live in the same society with thousands of people who have such a level of faith in justice and the basic tenets of our civilization that, over the course of seven decades of interactions with Donald Trump, they have to a number refrained from what I'm sure was an almost overwhelming instinctual urge to drive a steak knife directly into his jugular. Not even an attempt, as far as I know. It's quite astounding to consider, and it gives me a great deal of hope in our species.
― This Bobo Isn't Going to Honk Itself (Old Lunch), Sunday, 10 June 2018 02:17 (seven years ago)
i mean, what, he's going to break the economy? fuck it, why not, he's broken everything else, why not the economy too? god, if he was a half-decent dictator, which isn't hard, i could at least be afraid of him, but there's no real benefit in that, is it? fear isn't going to keep anyone safe. historical metaphors are wholly suspect at this juncture, but i can relate to how anybody living under one of the later julio-claudians must have felt.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 10 June 2018 02:25 (seven years ago)
No. No. No. Hope that the person who poisons him is a U.S. citizen of WASP background. If NK does it we'd have to go to war and millions would die. You should want his assassin to be unconnected to anybody we'd end up nuking or sending out troops against, or lynching. That includes Bernie Bros or anyone associated in the slightest way to Planned Parenthood.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 10 June 2018 02:56 (seven years ago)
the only good thing that could happen is a murder (family over 18)/ suicide
Anything else will garner way too much sympathy
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 10 June 2018 04:54 (seven years ago)
p sure Krauthammer hates Trump for being uncouth, not for his destructive actions
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 10 June 2018 05:13 (seven years ago)
NK meeting will be a great success initially because TheDonald's always your best friend when he's in the same room as you. The childish crap only starts after the meeting.
― StanM, Sunday, 10 June 2018 06:37 (seven years ago)
Exactly. Let's fast-forward:
• Before the meeting, Trump makes insanely sycophantic opening statement about Kim to the press, revealing staggering historical ignorance in the process (and possibly making some kind of major grammatical error)• Immediately after the meeting, Trump makes statement implying that he'll give Kim anything he wants• Safely back on the plane, Trump splatters the walls with hostile tweets about how he's gonna blow up the world
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 10 June 2018 12:44 (seven years ago)
I think after G7 he’s gonna be kind of desperate to make this go well? My guess is NK gets everything they want, Trump spends the next two years bragging about how he Art of the Dealed him
― frogbs, Sunday, 10 June 2018 13:45 (seven years ago)
It's so massively disheartening to watch someone again and again come up with bad solutions to problems of his own invention. It's just baffling. It's so, so close to replacing the drinking water with Gatorade for the naming rights money. Like picking a fight with Canada because NAFTA is the "worst deal ever" - which one could make a case for, if they wanted to, but then he insists he can make a better deal, learns he can't, or that it takes more than a week, then blows up the talks because he can't get what he wants, because he doesn't know what he wants, just what he doesn't want. Like a child or bad house guest. What I can't figure out is ... I mean, I know he lacks a fundamental understanding of the/any facts or economic mechanics or whatever, but the people around him ... are they stupid? Lunatics? Mere enablers? I don't get it. Statistically speaking, they can't all be any/all those things. Are these all just departments of one while the everyday government workers just sit on their hands and wait this shit out? Besides recent appointees, does someone like Bolton have *any* allies in the government? Does Pompeo? Does Trump? Or is this just all an inner circle neo-cabal flailing around while the regular folks wait it out?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 June 2018 14:03 (seven years ago)
the people around him ... are they stupid? Lunatics? Mere enablers?
Yes.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 10 June 2018 14:11 (seven years ago)
Trump is the most popular politician in the GOP. Literally the only thing these guys care about is staying in power. I don’t think there’s too much more to read into it
― frogbs, Sunday, 10 June 2018 14:14 (seven years ago)
So will they literally do anything, no matter how stupid, to stay in "power"? And what good is being in power, if you are required to do stupid stuff to stay there, and said stupid stuff erodes said power? Because it doesn't seem to be expanding their power.
Anyway, November couldn't come sooner. And if there's no change in November, we're all doomed for real, probably.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 June 2018 15:01 (seven years ago)
They’ve all bent to the whim of a reality show who is too stupid to sit through an intelligence briefing that isn’t broken down into 5 easy bullet points. I don’t think it’s a question anymore
― frogbs, Sunday, 10 June 2018 15:05 (seven years ago)
I think it's safe to assume that the GOP will debase themselves to whatever extent Trump expects of them. And it's all about what serves everyone the best in the immediate moment. They'll worry about tomorrow tomorrow.
― How Stank Was My Hooba (Old Lunch), Sunday, 10 June 2018 15:07 (seven years ago)
on a related note, we're about to go to a meeting on nuclear weapons without an expert on nuclear weapons. our last secretary of energy was ernest moniz, who has a phd in theoretical physics from stanford. our current secretary of energy is rick perry.
WASHINGTON — As President Trump prepares to meet Kim Jong-un of North Korea to negotiate denuclearization, a challenge that has bedeviled the world for years, he is doing so without the help of a White House science adviser or senior counselor trained in nuclear physics.Mr. Trump is the first president since 1941 not to name a science adviser, a position created during World War II to guide the Oval Office on technical matters ranging from nuclear warfare to global pandemics. As a businessman and president, Mr. Trump has proudly been guided by his instincts. Nevertheless, people who have participated in past nuclear negotiations say the absence of such high-level expertise could put him at a tactical disadvantage in one of the weightiest diplomatic matters of his presidency. “You need to have an empowered senior science adviser at the table,” said R. Nicholas Burns, who led negotiations with India over a civilian nuclear deal during the George W. Bush administration. “You can be sure the other side will have that.”
Mr. Trump is the first president since 1941 not to name a science adviser, a position created during World War II to guide the Oval Office on technical matters ranging from nuclear warfare to global pandemics. As a businessman and president, Mr. Trump has proudly been guided by his instincts. Nevertheless, people who have participated in past nuclear negotiations say the absence of such high-level expertise could put him at a tactical disadvantage in one of the weightiest diplomatic matters of his presidency.
“You need to have an empowered senior science adviser at the table,” said R. Nicholas Burns, who led negotiations with India over a civilian nuclear deal during the George W. Bush administration. “You can be sure the other side will have that.”
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 June 2018 15:09 (seven years ago)
David Frum gets it.
Trump is locked into a cycle in his top-level diplomacy: bully-cringe-bully-cringe. He bullies traditional friends and allies; he cringes to adversaries, dictators, and potential funding sources for Trump enterprises. Bullying the G7 was the weekend’s story; cringing to North Korea—and behind it, China—will be the story of the week ahead.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 10 June 2018 15:33 (seven years ago)
Anyone that still identifies as a Republican, including that fucker, is part of the problem.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 June 2018 16:02 (seven years ago)
I might omit 'part of'.
― How Stank Was My Hooba (Old Lunch), Sunday, 10 June 2018 16:14 (seven years ago)
the absence of such high-level expertise could put him at a tactical disadvantage
otoh, Trump's inability to stick to any agreement he makes or position he takes, coupled with his willingness to lie or to say whatever he thinks someone else wants to hear, then renege on it later, means that whatever substance the negotiation appears to have achieved will be pure illusion - even if Trump signs his name to it.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 10 June 2018 16:50 (seven years ago)
Yeah, the trick to winning a negotiation with Trump seems to be being the first one to break the agreement in your own favor.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 10 June 2018 16:54 (seven years ago)
Gooooood moooouuurrrrninnnng!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 10 June 2018 16:56 (seven years ago)
Or is this just all an inner circle neo-cabal flailing around while the regular folks wait it out?
― Josh in Chicago
trump is the only person in the entire republican party any republican voter cares about or who has any power whatsoever, and though i don't want to attribute any ability to learn to the president whatsoever, i do rather suspect he is beginning to figure this out. i certainly can't imagine why anybody who wasn't a wholly unprincipled sycophant would be working for, or even defending, the president at this juncture.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 10 June 2018 17:03 (seven years ago)
Are these all just departments of one while the everyday government workers just sit on their hands and wait this shit out?
Pretty much
Besides recent appointees, does someone like Bolton have *any* allies in the government?
Nope
Does Pompeo? Does Trump?
Sadly, yes (Parts of CBP, ICE, some factions in DoD I'm sure)
Yes
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 10 June 2018 17:07 (seven years ago)
and yet for some reason wall st seems cool with all of this.
which supports my lol theory that while the market might not be rational, it is racist
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 10 June 2018 17:40 (seven years ago)
seems about right. the market consists of people, who are both irrational and racist. since the only driver is greed, as long as their irrational racist choices make money, they are happy.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 10 June 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
My friend said his dad voted for Trump for economic reasons, but he keeps explaining to him that you cannot separate that from the racist stuff. The result was that for several months his dad blocked his phone number.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 June 2018 18:10 (seven years ago)
What could possibly go wrong?
Whoa. This is sliding toward what we have all feared: Kim flatters Trump; no one’s around to warn Trump; T gives something important away, because he doesn’t understand the issues, bc he didn’t prepare and couldn’t care less about the US architecture in Asia. This is a bad idea https://t.co/PRQ80nLq2S— Robert E Kelly (@Robert_E_Kelly) June 10, 2018
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 10 June 2018 18:58 (seven years ago)
particularly since there were never any rational economic reasons to vote for trump anyway!
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 10 June 2018 20:28 (seven years ago)
everyone is an expert on the economy
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 10 June 2018 20:59 (seven years ago)
Anyone who's not rooting for North Korea to further embarrass and outmaneuver Trump is a cop tbh
― Simon H., Sunday, 10 June 2018 21:02 (seven years ago)
Cool strategy as long as it doesn’t end up in a war
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 June 2018 21:03 (seven years ago)
Considering the meeting involves nuclear warheads I'm on team #noonegetsembarassedormad.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 10 June 2018 21:03 (seven years ago)
OTM. The thing is Trump has appointed the type of people to advise him who at the very least have entertained the idea of a military strike. It’s a “by any means necessary” type of situation to make sure that doesn’t happen. And it would be better if his desire to make this deal was motivated by pragmatism instead of narcissism.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 10 June 2018 21:31 (seven years ago)
Moron can’t even get Canada to be happy with his administration, I have no hope anything good will come out from that meeting.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 10 June 2018 22:13 (seven years ago)
Maybe Robert E Kelly should worry more about what his own kids are doing
― the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Sunday, 10 June 2018 23:38 (seven years ago)
I really feel like most of the people working for this administration who aren't ignorant grifters like Pruitt or Zinke or Carson are striving to hold down blood puke most of the time. But it can be hard to differentiate sycophants from believers in this town.
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 10 June 2018 23:48 (seven years ago)
I just don't understand how, if it's/he's as bad as it seems, more ambivalent/ambiguous/seemingly not insanely ideologue folks like Rex and McMaster and Cohn and other exes haven't been more outspoken. They're so fucking coy and elliptical. It would help to have someone (other than Omarosa) come out of this fucking mess and confirm that yes, we are not going nuts, it's a total shitshow, and here are some specific examples.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 June 2018 23:53 (seven years ago)
I doubt that one of these people coming out will do more than simply confirming our suspicions.
Heck, these are not even suspicions anymore. We know what we are dealing with.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 10 June 2018 23:56 (seven years ago)
i'm not really sure how what you propose would help or what it would accomplish. there's plenty of evidence already out there that the administration is a total shitshow, with specific examples. this hasn't done a great deal to keep me from going nuts, truth be told.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Monday, 11 June 2018 00:39 (seven years ago)
kind of a wild example right here
very normal habit picked up in the process of doing normal legal things https://t.co/RlCNCfowUj— Official Centrism (@pareene) June 10, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 June 2018 00:40 (seven years ago)
Those fucking embroidered '45's on his cuffs...
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 June 2018 00:42 (seven years ago)
he is 6
or 8. he's 6 to 8 years old.
also, don't mean to trash talk one of the victims here but you're a real piece of shit reginald young jr
One of his colleagues, Reginald Young Jr., who worked as a senior records management analyst, said that during over two decades of government service, he had never been asked to do such a thing.
“We had to endure this under the Trump administration,” Young said. “I’m looking at my director, and saying, ‘Are you guys serious?’ We’re making more than $60,000 a year, we need to be doing far more important things than this. It felt like the lowest form of work you can take on without having to empty the trash cans.”
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 June 2018 00:44 (seven years ago)
ok, this is a little long but can we make entire excerpt the july thread title
Lartey said the papers he received included newspaper clips on which Trump had scribbled notes, or circled words; invitations; and letters from constituents or lawmakers on the Hill, including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer.
“I had a letter from Schumer — he tore it up,” he said. “It was the craziest thing ever. He ripped papers into tiny pieces.”
Lartey did not work alone. He said his entire department was dedicated to the task of taping paper back together in the opening months of the Trump administration.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 June 2018 00:48 (seven years ago)
This to me reeks of the habit of a man very used to hiding his tracks.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 11 June 2018 01:05 (seven years ago)
Had a very dark thought today that our boi trump is assigned to devalue the US currency enough that Russia can swoop in and buy the eastern seaboard up with cash but that would be crazy right
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 11 June 2018 01:33 (seven years ago)
:)
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 11 June 2018 01:34 (seven years ago)
― Simon H., Monday, 11 June 2018 01:48 (seven years ago)
As an eastern property owner I welcome our new Russian overlords
― emotional support legume (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 11 June 2018 02:04 (seven years ago)
A Canadian perspective on Trump's tantrum
― Ρεμπετολογια, Monday, 11 June 2018 03:04 (seven years ago)
i'm gonna arm myself like one of those Red Dawn kids
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 June 2018 05:43 (seven years ago)
so deNiro said "f Trump" twice on the Tonys last night. Odds that there will be a response tweet?
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 June 2018 14:10 (seven years ago)
inevitable
― Simon H., Monday, 11 June 2018 14:12 (seven years ago)
lmao Trump wants out of Singapore as soon as possible
this whole thing is just gonna be a dumb photo op isn't it
― frogbs, Monday, 11 June 2018 14:13 (seven years ago)
it depends what the "touch and feel" tell him
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 June 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)
pros: it's a business-friendly police statecons: full of foreigners
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 June 2018 14:16 (seven years ago)
The root of Trump's tendency toward isolationism is that every country is weirdly full of foreigners. Where are all the Americans, Singapore? Sad!
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 June 2018 14:51 (seven years ago)
what the fucking fuck at everything in that article
Lartey, 54, and Young, 48, were career government officials who worked together in records management until this spring, when both were abruptly terminated from their jobs. Both are now unemployed and still full of questions about why they were stripped of their badges with no explanation and marched off of the White House grounds by Secret Service.Irene Porada, the head of human resources who personally terminated both men, did not respond to an email requesting comment. A White House spokesman also did not respond to a request for comment about the terminations.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 11 June 2018 15:56 (seven years ago)
Celebrating birthday, a bit early. pic.twitter.com/laVLNs7J2j— Vivian Balakrishnan (@VivianBala) June 11, 2018
lmao they're literally throwing him a birthday party to keep him happy
― frogbs, Monday, 11 June 2018 16:06 (seven years ago)
nothing but respect for my president piss baby
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 11 June 2018 16:11 (seven years ago)
Don't Russia and China also have huge stockpiles of gold (xpost to that devaluing the USD).
― Yerac, Monday, 11 June 2018 16:16 (seven years ago)
the biggest country that can tank the USD imo is the Saudis. they've been propping it up using it as the currency for oil deals since the 70s. also assume china could fuck us hard if they stop buying our bonds. (almost typo'd to 'bongs')
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 11 June 2018 16:28 (seven years ago)
please god rudy just do as he asks i'm begging you
Mr. Giuliani: my client deserves an apology for your sexist, disgusting, comments about her and women in general. I strongly suggest you provide one. Are you really taking the position that you have not viewed porn in the last year? Ever hear of something called an IP address?...— Michael Avenatti (@MichaelAvenatti) June 11, 2018
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 June 2018 18:22 (seven years ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/jun/10/a-fox-news-host-has-accidentally-referred-to-the-highly-anticipated-summit-between-president-donald-trump-and-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-as-a-meeting-of-two-dictators
― StanM, Monday, 11 June 2018 18:24 (seven years ago)
Another Huntsman briefly inspires hope and then immediately dashes it.
― Martin Landau Ballet (Leee), Monday, 11 June 2018 18:28 (seven years ago)
I will be first in line to purchase Avenatti's book, Baiting Deadfalls for Dummies (To Fall Into) (Over and Over Again).
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 June 2018 18:29 (seven years ago)
BREAKING: Trump administration will stop granting asylum to victims of domestic abuse and gang violence. Tens of thousands impacted. Story coming shortly.— Evan Halper (@evanhalper) June 11, 2018
― mookieproof, Monday, 11 June 2018 19:33 (seven years ago)
Instead of asylum they'll be given guns and sent back home to take care of business.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 June 2018 19:39 (seven years ago)
^ awesome action movie premise, tbf
― emotional support legume (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 11 June 2018 20:33 (seven years ago)
kind of lol but mostly i wanna die now
― Hunt3r, Monday, 11 June 2018 20:41 (seven years ago)
“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free and tell them to f-off I'm going golfing.”
― earlnash, Monday, 11 June 2018 22:37 (seven years ago)
Hope this is just the start of sudden heart attacks in this administration
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:06 (seven years ago)
The fact that I am having a meeting is a major loss for the U.S., say the haters & losers. We have our hostages, testing, research and all missle launches have stoped, and these pundits, who have called me wrong from the beginning, have nothing else they can say! We will be fine!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 11, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:16 (seven years ago)
Who is saying having the meeting is a major loss? WTF does that even mean!?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:19 (seven years ago)
'stoped'?
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:25 (seven years ago)
Larry Kudlow had a heart attack.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:25 (seven years ago)
all missle launches have stoped
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:29 (seven years ago)
things we have
― del griffith, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:30 (seven years ago)
all missle launches have stoped! just look in the tunk.
https://cartoonessays.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/ralph-for-prez.jpg?w=660
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:37 (seven years ago)
https://m0vie.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/xfiles-kitsunegari1.jpg
Next?
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:46 (seven years ago)
We will be fine! is the secret crown jewel of that tweet
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:54 (seven years ago)
weird handshake. also kind of odd that trump appeared to say so much to kim during the handshake, since it seems very unclear that he speaks fluent english?
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 02:02 (seven years ago)
best variant of this joke I've seen
tbh im not hopeful that the warlike backwater shithole country will denuke but maybe kim jong un can talk some sense into trump— chunky are law (@See_Em_Play) June 12, 2018
― Simon H., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 02:18 (seven years ago)
Maybe he was briefed in advance that if he tried his muscleman squeeze on Kim, a North Korean goon would leap out and chop Trump's hand off at the wrist? And I don't think he ever considers whether the person he's talking to understands English or not.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 02:22 (seven years ago)
it seems very unclear that he speaks fluent english?
yeah but kim prob has enough for both of them
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 02:35 (seven years ago)
Didn't Kim go to college in the UK?
― nickn, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 02:43 (seven years ago)
I heard he was educated in Switzerland.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 02:44 (seven years ago)
Ah, OK, I just remembered Europe, so I assume some fluency in English.
― nickn, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 02:46 (seven years ago)
so what the fuck was the point of all this? was this just a dumb photo op the whole time?
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 03:36 (seven years ago)
That Dennis Rodman was somehow involved in this whole thing makes me demand a refund on this historical timeline, I want a new one for me and my family.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 03:43 (seven years ago)
xp that's my impression
― Dan S, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 03:44 (seven years ago)
lmao at the Flag Respecters
― Simon H., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 03:46 (seven years ago)
I wonder if the dairy system in North Korea is fair, unlike say Canada.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 03:48 (seven years ago)
this whole thing was ridiculous and content fee, and as expected the press lapped it up and will be reporting on it for days
― Dan S, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 04:18 (seven years ago)
Kim just wanted to see him in private to tell him he's got the pee tape.
― StanM, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 04:19 (seven years ago)
― Dan S, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 04:21 (seven years ago)
Just now:
"A really fantastic meeting -- a lot of progress. Top of the line. We are going right now for a signing," President Trump just told reporters.— Jeff Zeleny (@jeffzeleny) June 12, 2018
How very...content free.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 04:41 (seven years ago)
Trump gonna sign some trading cards.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 04:44 (seven years ago)
happy talk
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 04:44 (seven years ago)
wow, top of the line, it must be good!
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 04:57 (seven years ago)
Trudeau should get some nukes, open some gulags and murder some relatives. That's obviously the way to get deals done these days
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 05:10 (seven years ago)
Apparently he's 'Presidential' now. He also brushed off a late in the (hour long!) press-er question about legitimizing Kim's oppressive regime...and he talked about putting hotels on N. Korea's beaches.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 09:32 (seven years ago)
he talked about putting hotels on N. Korea's beaches.>would be a scandal in itself under most other regimes.Business as per usual with him though. THe State as a way of promoting his business projects.Did his popularity go up at all because of this trip.God i'm disgusted on so many levels by this whole farce and the continuous farce it's a smaller part of.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 10:40 (seven years ago)
we are going to save "a tremendous amount of money" by ending military exercises w/ SK
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 11:09 (seven years ago)
I understood that spending unlimited money on the military was a key plank in MAGA, though?
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 11:23 (seven years ago)
more money to spend on invading canada
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 11:29 (seven years ago)
Honestly if a grift is what it's gonna take to make sure he never attempts an actual war I'm all for it
― Simon H., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 11:30 (seven years ago)
Trump on North Korea and Kim Jong-un: "His country does love him. His people, you see the fervor. They have a great fervor."
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 11:42 (seven years ago)
no notes cuz guess why
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/391769-trump-on-lack-of-notes-from-kim-meeting-i-have-one-of-the-great
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 11:46 (seven years ago)
Cannot wait until the soldiers show up to whip me into my government-mandated fervor.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 11:47 (seven years ago)
i mean he just woulda ripped up the notes anyway
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 11:58 (seven years ago)
This is crazy, people normally keep the working so that they have something to look at in future. Just in case things go wrong , like.Is this supposed to be a lasting anything or is it just a way for him to get new sites for a hotel business he shouldn't be involved in while performing a serious role?
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 12:04 (seven years ago)
Donald, I know you're one of the smartest and least racist people I've ever met with one of the all-time great memories, but...mmm, I dunno, you don't seem like you'd be all that great at flying. Y'know, going to the top of one of your buildings and leaping off and soaring through the air like an eagle? I'm just not sure you have it in you, sorry. Sad, even! Oh, well. Sigh. I guess that'll just have to be the one thing you're really terrible at. Unless you'd like to prove me wrong?
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 12:05 (seven years ago)
Trump has accomplished nothing (in the presidency as in his prior life) that wasn't completely self-serving. Nothing lasting or substantive will come of this, aside from the possibility of Americans being required to conform to particular haircuts under threat of death.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 12:08 (seven years ago)
its such a bad thing to stop sabre rattling up around korea hmm
― laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 12:36 (seven years ago)
lmao this entire thing was about Trump Tower North Korea right
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 12:39 (seven years ago)
Sorry, I'm a hater and a loser, it's my job to blubber libtears over the major losses I've suffered.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 12:39 (seven years ago)
I did wonder if this was all a ploy to put a Trump logo on Ryugyong tower tbh
― raise my chicken finger (Willl), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 12:44 (seven years ago)
President Trump Made a Fake Movie Trailer for Kim Jong Un with the Two Leaders as Heroes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A838gS8nwas
― Eliza D., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 12:54 (seven years ago)
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:23 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's a key foundation of all US politics. if you recall just a week or so after the Shithole comment #TheResistance signed off on giving the hated dictator a bigger military budget than he asked for
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 12:56 (seven years ago)
PyongYAM
― emotional support legume (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:12 (seven years ago)
would not be at all surprised if Trump's approval rating (44% last I saw) creeps north of 50% in the next week or so.
― evol j, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:17 (seven years ago)
if you recall just a week or so after the Shithole comment #TheResistance signed off on giving the hated dictator a bigger military budget than he asked for
what, one person on twitter?
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:17 (seven years ago)
Trump's approval is at 41 right now and I don't think it'll ever break 45
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:22 (seven years ago)
like I get that this is probably a good thing, even if the US got played here at the very least Trump probably talked himself out of starting a war so that's good
that said this'll all be forgotten in two days, remember how Trump got all our allies pissed and threatened to start a trade war with everyone
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:25 (seven years ago)
― evol j, Tuesday, June 12, 2018 8:17 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Seriously, because this is an historic moment of great import and not just two autocrats emptily jerking one another off all over the rest of the world's population.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:26 (seven years ago)
the US getting played in shit (for them) deals against all the other countries is good tho
― laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:26 (seven years ago)
― evol j
elections are in november, people, not june.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:30 (seven years ago)
That video. That fucking video. Peak dystopia is nigh.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:34 (seven years ago)
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, June 12, 2018 9:30 AM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm aware. Just lamenting the likelihood that a significant number of low-information citizens are likely to take away from this circus a belief that significant progress was made toward achieving global peace. While a summit is certainly preferable to presidential rage-tweeting, we're miles away from tangible results.
― evol j, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:01 (seven years ago)
I keep thinking that I've come across dystopian sci fi stories that start with set ups like I'm hearing in the news over the last few days. Only I think you'd dispose of a character like the U.S. President as being too cartoonish to be real.Editor would probably get on teh writer's back about it.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:02 (seven years ago)
after 9/11 gwb had a fucking 90% approval rating. donald trump actually having a positive favorability rating for once in his miserable life isn't going to shatter my faith in humanity.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:07 (seven years ago)
Thank goodness that 90% approval rating was shortly followed by his being chased out of the WH with torches and pitchforks and that he's spat on in the street to this day. Justice.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:09 (seven years ago)
No, I think he reinvented himself as a great portrait artist
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:10 (seven years ago)
If we last that long, I basically expect Trump to replace Santa Claus as the figure most beloved of children everywhere as they cower in fear from whatever vampire lord has taken over the country at that point and delights in publicly feeding on squalling infants.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:12 (seven years ago)
those low info people were going to vote for a GOP moron or Trump anyway!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:13 (seven years ago)
― Not with a bang but a MAGA
my implication was more along the lines of "i can't fathom why anybody would have any faith in humanity left to shatter at this point", ol
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:13 (seven years ago)
Oh, okay, then yes 100%.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)
the low info people can, and do, change their opinions, and probably their core beliefs, at the drop of a hat, so what they think in june is of basically zero relevance.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)
My take continues to be a kind of sad resignation, though. Too many people are just too easily led, and there are always evil & manipulative pieces of shit all-too-willing to exploit that. Mine isn't a lack of faith in humanity but rather a lack of faith in humanity's collective ability to avoid being duped.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:17 (seven years ago)
“They have great beaches. You see that whenever they’re exploding their cannons into the ocean. I said boy look at that, wouldn’t that make a great condo...
“And I said instead of doing that you could have the best hotels in the world right there. Think of it from a real estate perspective. You have South Korea, you have China and they own the land in the middle. How bad is that, right? It’s great.”
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:29 (seven years ago)
One more thing about KJU. While I know @potus is trying to butter him up to get a good deal, #KJU is NOT a talented guy. He inherited the family business from his dad & grandfather. He is a total weirdo who would not be elected assistant dog catcher in any democracy.— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) June 12, 2018
hmm
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 15:40 (seven years ago)
Galaxy brain
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 15:42 (seven years ago)
He inherited the family business from his dad & grandfather.
Surprisingly strong shade.
― Fanfare for the Comma, man (WilliamC), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 15:44 (seven years ago)
Fredo recognize Fredo
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 15:45 (seven years ago)
having woken up late like an asshole, i just watched the highlight reel of trump talking about what happened
got to "...once you start the process it means it's pretty much over...you can't use them, that's the good news, and that's going to start very soon, i believe it's going to start very soon" and did a coffee spittake
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 15:50 (seven years ago)
think NK's just gonna be on the honor system
President Trump says he got North Korea to commit to destroying a major missile testing site but "we didn't put it in the agreement because we didn't have time."— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) June 12, 2018
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 15:51 (seven years ago)
"chairman kim has told me that north korea has already destroyed a major missile engine testing site. that's not in your signed agreement, we agreed to that AFTER the document was signed."
so you agreed to something that already happened after the document was signed. this guy is good
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 15:52 (seven years ago)
haha, xpost. and sorry, i just relistened and i guess trump said "north korea is already destroying", not "north korea has already destroyed"
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 15:54 (seven years ago)
Yes, Donnie, NK is going to ditch their nuclear armaments just like you're totally going to pay all those contractors someday. It's coming, just you wait.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 15:58 (seven years ago)
mission completed so theyrehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7edeOEuXdMU
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 16:07 (seven years ago)
Anyway, back to reality!
Michael Cohen has told friends that he expects to be arrested any day now, a source close to Cohen tells Vanity Fair."Trump should be super worried about Michael Cohen," a former W.H. official said. "If anyone can blow up Trump, it’s him." https://t.co/3o1Mvdxsf4— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 12, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:22 (seven years ago)
Cursed image:
Another person who is enjoying the West Wing’s current power structure is Jared Kushner. Trump’s son-in-law had been sidelined by Kelly this past winter when he lost his security clearance. Now, Kushner openly flaunts his status in front of Kelly, having had his clearance restored. According to a Republican in frequent contact with the White House, Kushner recently stood up and walked out of a meeting that Kelly was leading. Kushner has told people that Kelly will be gone by the end of summer, according to a person who’s spoken with him recently. “Jared is strutting around with his balls out,” said the Republican.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:24 (seven years ago)
Gross
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:26 (seven years ago)
Vote 'em out with your scrotum out
― emotional support legume (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:26 (seven years ago)
We're at the point where I genuinely wouldn't assume with any certainty that that was meant metaphorically.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:27 (seven years ago)
“Jared is strutting around with his balls out,” said the Republican.
can someone smash them w a hammer
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:28 (seven years ago)
If there were reports that Trump was showing up to meetings completely unclothed and openly masturbating, I'd think, 'yeah, that sounds about right.'
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:29 (seven years ago)
we must not normalize balls outing
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:31 (seven years ago)
It amuses me that PotCoin hasn't gotten any kind of measurable bump out of this.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/potcoin/
― Simon H., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:49 (seven years ago)
So no more US military exercises in South Korea. South Korea was not even alerted.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:51 (seven years ago)
Trump will probably schedule one for tomorrow by the end of the day
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
pretty sure Trump was just planning to ghost on the next war games date with SK
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:03 (seven years ago)
looks like we got our "scandal that would've ended the Clinton presidency" by noon today
Did Trump let classified information slip? Jeremy Bash on MSNBC said “I’m not sure he should have said that." pic.twitter.com/Jeh0nc4s76— Michael Crowley (@michaelcrowley) June 12, 2018
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:04 (seven years ago)
Keep up with the new rules, Crowley. If the President says it, it is declassified. He's the head of all intelligence agencies. If the President does it, it is not illegal. He's the chief law enforcement officer.
This is really simple; amazed you libtards don't get it yet.
― emotional support legume (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:06 (seven years ago)
When you've lost this chump....
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:06 (seven years ago)
You place a high value on the issue of human rights and the evils of the North Korean gulag.
Oh, fuck off you absolute piece of shit. You don't give a fuck about human rights.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:11 (seven years ago)
anyway it's not all bad news today
my condolences to @CSIS, five of their biggest donors––Raytheon, General Dynamics, Northrop Grumman, Leonardo-Finmeccanica and Boeing saw their stocks go down today. https://t.co/GXZ0o4FW2T— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) June 12, 2018
― Simon H., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:16 (seven years ago)
the president can declassify whatever he wants and, like, knowing where industrial/military operations are because of the heat signature is...not exactly ground-breaking or top secret
― gbx, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:26 (seven years ago)
It's clearly amazing to at least one person. "You know they can SEE HEAT? Amazing. I'd like to point that at some beauty-pageant contestants' crotches, ifyaknowhwatimeanandithinkyado."
― emotional support fungus (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:30 (seven years ago)
Coordination!
McConnell says he wants any agreement with North Korea to be submitted to Senate as a treaty— Burgess Everett (@burgessev) June 12, 2018
Pence told Senate GOP that military exercises in Korea will continue, per Sen. Gardner— Burgess Everett (@burgessev) June 12, 2018
NEW: Pence’s press sec tells @lachlan that reports he said military exercises with Korea will continue are “false”— Sam Stein (@samstein) June 12, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:11 (seven years ago)
god these fuckin idiots
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:12 (seven years ago)
these people would fuck up a baked potato— Kilgore Trout (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 12, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)
These people would fuck up eating a baked potato.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:18 (seven years ago)
'Where it go at?' (forcefully inserts piping-hot potato into anus)
^^How Covfefe happened, iirc.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:39 (seven years ago)
.@VP was very clear: regular readiness training and training exchanges will continue. https://t.co/9tnKhqxnMz— Cory Gardner (@SenCoryGardner) June 12, 2018
uh oh Pence drama incoming
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:42 (seven years ago)
I swear on my mother I thought the tweet read, "These people would fuck a baked potato."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:48 (seven years ago)
that's a terrible thing to call Ivanka
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:52 (seven years ago)
i guess i won't share the Adam Johnson tweet on FB since my brother-in-law works for GenDyn
anyway, seeing some lib hawks go all Curtis LeMay today has been a laff
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:54 (seven years ago)
So hopw's that Noble prize bid going?
& are the meeting coins at a premium yet?
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 20:57 (seven years ago)
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, June 11, 2018 4:10 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Didn't take that long! Lol this douchebag
Robert De Niro, a very Low IQ individual, has received to many shots to the head by real boxers in movies. I watched him last night and truly believe he may be “punch-drunk.” I guess he doesn’t...— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 12, 2018
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:13 (seven years ago)
"to many"
yeah but that punctuation reflects a staffer's faux trumptweet imo
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:17 (seven years ago)
"to many shots to the head" should be on the shortlist for July thread titles
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:23 (seven years ago)
Cheers!
― DJI, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:25 (seven years ago)
even funnier when you remember this is the guy who is making executive decisions based on the advice of Sylvester Stallone
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:35 (seven years ago)
Thank you for the gift of that tweet, Donald (or faux Donald, whatever). Grammatically-incorrect and/or misspelled slams on another's intelligence are very very high on my list of favorite things ever.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:36 (seven years ago)
get a brain, moran
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:39 (seven years ago)
RdN and Yam deserve each other, imho. Add Alec Baldwin for a 3-way standoff.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:39 (seven years ago)
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/391806-alec-baldwin-i-would-absolutely-win-if-i-ran-for-president-in
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:41 (seven years ago)
surely you meant "jerkoff"
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:51 (seven years ago)
"South Koreans do not trust Kim or Trump, or believe in the possibility of a quick reunification. They are simply aware of the toll that seventy years of national division have taken, and are eager for an alternative future." https://t.co/heapWAHB2T— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) June 12, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:54 (seven years ago)
not gonna lie, the prospect of four more years of president brainstem is almost worth it if it meant alec baldwin getting utterly humiliated on the international stage
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:56 (seven years ago)
― maura, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:17 (seven years ago)
sorry but... seriously? the time for celebrity deathmacth lolz is way over
Rather.
Separately:
Feud erupts between DOJ and Nunes, with Rosenstein now threatening to call for a House investigation into Nunes staffers after DOJ rebuts account of heated, closed-door clash, per @LauraAJarrett https://t.co/wYMoUGJBVn— Manu Raju (@mkraju) June 12, 2018
Staffers for Devin Nunes apparently threatened to hold Rod Rosenstein in Contempt of Congress in a recent meeting. He told them if they did, he would have the right to subpoena their communications and put them on the witness stand to prove them wrong. He's 100% right about that. https://t.co/a41tMnT4du— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) June 12, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:42 (seven years ago)
Elsewhere:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/rene-boucher-describes-attack-on-neighbor-rand-paul.html
In September, Paul piled limbs and trimmings from shrubs in a 5-foot-high and 10-foot-long pile near the property line between them. Boucher, who called the pile “unsightly,” after several weeks moved the debris into portable dumpsters and had them taken away.In October, Paul reconstructed the pile. A few days later, Boucher again had them hauled away. Less than 10 days later, Paul again made another pile of limbs and leaves, again in the same spot. Boucher took his beef to the Rivergreen Homeowner’s Association, but it did not help.On Nov. 2, Boucher hit some kind of limit with his patience. He poured gasoline on the pile of debris and set it on fire. The resulting fireball gave him second-degree burns on his arms, neck, and face.
In October, Paul reconstructed the pile. A few days later, Boucher again had them hauled away. Less than 10 days later, Paul again made another pile of limbs and leaves, again in the same spot. Boucher took his beef to the Rivergreen Homeowner’s Association, but it did not help.
On Nov. 2, Boucher hit some kind of limit with his patience. He poured gasoline on the pile of debris and set it on fire. The resulting fireball gave him second-degree burns on his arms, neck, and face.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:48 (seven years ago)
The one time a HOA doesn't all get up in one's shit...
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:02 (seven years ago)
(Onion Headline) Gigantic Metaphor of Political Divisiveness Set On Fire
Echoes of IRL sinkhole in White House lawn
― emotional support fungus (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:08 (seven years ago)
New In Reader's Digest: Life In These End Times Of The United States
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:12 (seven years ago)
I'm wondering where Paul got all the debris for the second and third piles. Was he decimating his own yard? Raiding other houses' yard waste bins?
― nickn, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:16 (seven years ago)
he made a desert and peaced
― burzum buddies (brownie), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:22 (seven years ago)
I like the idea that Boucher probably failed several times to light the PILE OF STICKS AND LEAVES on fire. And then had to drive to the gas station and ask for a jerry-can of gas, drive back, muttering to himself the whole time, picturing it all in his head, just working himself into an absolute state and then burning the fuck out of himself.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:27 (seven years ago)
Is it really a crime if any living person subjected to the same conditions would react in the same completely understandable way?
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:33 (seven years ago)
imagine Rand fucking Paul being a member of your HOA
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:35 (seven years ago)
Good fences make good neighbors iirc
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:38 (seven years ago)
Just the phrase "affluent Kentucky suburb" gives me like a full-on panic attack
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:39 (seven years ago)
HLN's ticker really wants people to feel bad about Kudlow. And I'm like...
― maura, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:40 (seven years ago)
I've had annoying neighbors before but never set myself on fire.
Somewhere there is a Michael Jackson / Pepsi joke there but I am too tired to construct it.
― emotional support fungus (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:40 (seven years ago)
I actually did that once! Attempt to ignite a pile of wet leaves with gasoline. Only used a little! Thought it'd be like super lighter fluid. Caused 3 explosions! Not major, but enough to get people running out of the house to see what happened. (This was during a Thanksgiving weekend in upstate New York, when it was still legal to burn leaves.) Nobody got hurt, but we was dumb.
― henry s, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:53 (seven years ago)
Ha ha I keep piling a bunch of debris between the neighbor yard and mine but it’s because they always let their dog out and it comes through a clear path between trees into our yard and poops.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 00:29 (seven years ago)
Ah, Virginia.
neo-Confederate Corey Stewart just won the GOP primary in the Virginia Senate race, so I'm re-upping my reporting on him calling white nationalist Paul Nehlen his "personal hero" and naming a neo-Nazi his campaign's "volunteer of the week" https://t.co/zvlx5Pe01J https://t.co/RsqFAn8hCs— Caleb Ecarma (@calebecarma) June 13, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 01:13 (seven years ago)
Yeah, I heard there were Democrats who voted for Stewart in an attempt at selecting the crazier (therefore weaker) general election opponent. If true, gah. Guys have you heard of a fellow called Trump? Immanentizing the eschaton is not sound strategery anymore (if it ever was).
― emotional support fungus (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 01:39 (seven years ago)
Yeah, there's no percentage in betting against the most outrageously awful option these days. People might just decide that 'outrageously awful' is the kind of change we could use.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 01:44 (seven years ago)
People might just decide that 'outrageously awful' is the kind of change we could use.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch)
not sure how giving an outrageously awful racist political power counts as "change" in 2018, but ok
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 01:49 (seven years ago)
Make America Even Worse!
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 01:53 (seven years ago)
I mean, I'm sure there are people who are disappointed that big softie Trump hasn't instituted concentration camps and roving death squads yet.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 01:55 (seven years ago)
have you all seen this? trump played this for kim jong-un. the fact that this is real and that happened is one of the most intensely strange things i've ever heard of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYsaC2CADs0
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 02:04 (seven years ago)
it is a fake trailer. he played him a fake trailer
i always thought hyperreality, simulacra, mapping simulation onto reality, etc were all kinds of metaphors - i am starting to think a blending of metaverses is actually happening
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 02:05 (seven years ago)
It always seemed purely theoretical in a way that suggested a big toke was in order after laying it all out but we're definitely right in the middle of it. Even separated from the rest of the madness, a reality show star won the ultimate prize: the power to create a show out of reality itself.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 02:12 (seven years ago)
definitely. the reality show angle is strong. it's also kind of like one of those custom recruitment videos that some college teams make for high school kids, subbing in the kid's name and face in, having the narrator describe them making the winning shot in the championship game. also, it's another narrow reference but there's heavy fallout (videogame series) vibes, the exuberant, unbridled propaganda / jingoistic nature of it, all very surreal and "late-stage" whatever you want
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 02:19 (seven years ago)
if we have to be stuck in an alternate reality why does it have to be an alternate reality from one of the less compelling episodes of "sliders"?
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 03:12 (seven years ago)
And afterwards they read each other's fan fiction and then made plans for the impending extradition & execution of Seth Rogan and James Franco.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 03:33 (seven years ago)
Does it strike anyone else, that that weird trailer really reeks of those weird $cientology propoganda films? I mean *really* reek of it?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 04:06 (seven years ago)
J. Don Trummppard
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 04:10 (seven years ago)
sanford lost
smh
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 04:26 (seven years ago)
oh lol
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 08:48 (seven years ago)
Also I’m 100% down with any Virginia Democrats who voted Stewart in the primary. Bring it on
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 08:51 (seven years ago)
it makes sense as the only way to draw obvious contrast with the blob of nothing that is Tim Kaine
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 11:53 (seven years ago)
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:06 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's mimicking North Korean propaganda I believe
― cr.ht (crüt), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:23 (seven years ago)
there's a theory that South Korea made it (today's NYT)
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:28 (seven years ago)
They got the Moonies to make it.
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:30 (seven years ago)
good mourning!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:32 (seven years ago)
Funny you should say that.
BREAKING: Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen likely to cooperate with federal prosecutors in New York as his attorneys leave case, sources tell @ABC News. https://t.co/AHPYOLGt1Q pic.twitter.com/R0DjCZf2Tn— ABC News (@ABC) June 13, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:37 (seven years ago)
B-but I'm sure Trump extracted a loyalty pledge from him! What is this world coming to when the living embodiment of chaos can no longer trust his underlings.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:44 (seven years ago)
can a legal expert tell me if it's good or not when all your lawyers abandon the case
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:52 (seven years ago)
I think it's a good thing when they realize how watertight a case you have and they pass because they're so sick of winning.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:01 (seven years ago)
btw when we're discussing "alternate realities", here's a good one
https://www.thecut.com/2018/06/melania-trumps-disappearance-is-right-out-of-hitchcock.html
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:05 (seven years ago)
Proposed by Senators Tim Kaine and Bob Corker, its radicalism approaches that of a constitutional amendment. Their new AUMF would subvert an article at the core of the Constitution, gutting a vital protection against tyranny devised by the Framers. It would authorize multiple existing wars without even debating them individually. It would empower Trump and his successors to unilaterally wage war in new countries, expand their ability to indefinitely detain prisoners without charges, and empower them to unilaterally kill individuals even inside the United States.In opposition, the ACLU has declared, “It would be hard to overstate the depth and breadth of the dangers to the Constitution, civil liberties, and human rights that the Corker-Kaine AUMF would cause … The Corker-Kaine AUMF would cause colossal harm to the Constitution’s checks and balances, would jeopardize civil liberties and human rights at home and abroad, would lead to a broad expansion of war without meaningful oversight, and would represent a sharp break from adherence to international law, including the United Nations Charter.”
In opposition, the ACLU has declared, “It would be hard to overstate the depth and breadth of the dangers to the Constitution, civil liberties, and human rights that the Corker-Kaine AUMF would cause … The Corker-Kaine AUMF would cause colossal harm to the Constitution’s checks and balances, would jeopardize civil liberties and human rights at home and abroad, would lead to a broad expansion of war without meaningful oversight, and would represent a sharp break from adherence to international law, including the United Nations Charter.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/congress-may-declare-the-forever-war/562175/?utm_source=atlfb
― Simon H., Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:44 (seven years ago)
this would make Kaine a better veep for trump than Pence
perpetual war is as bipartisan as shit
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:48 (seven years ago)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/robert-mueller-files-request-for-150-blank-subpoenas-in-paul-manafort-case
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:53 (seven years ago)
I was surprised Sanford had hung on this long tbh, after that whole stupid Argentina thing
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:56 (seven years ago)
TIP: Two Republican insiders just told me that GOP Rep Nunes, GOP Rep Rohrabacher and Sean Hannity are currently under criminal investigation by the Federal Gov’t.— Scott Dworkin (@funder) June 13, 2018
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:00 (seven years ago)
xposts i'm no legal pro, but cohen agreeing to cooperate with prosecutors seems likes a pretttttty big deal
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:02 (seven years ago)
p obvious what Nunes and Rohrabacher have been engaged in, not so sure about Hannity. must be related to the Cohen thing.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:03 (seven years ago)
Meh. Cohen accomplished exactly nothing for most of his clients; in that regard one could be forgiven for thinking he won't be of much help to the prosecutors either.
― emotional support fungus (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:04 (seven years ago)
though I guess you might wanna take that with a grain of salt
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:04 (seven years ago)
of course, his clients couldn't threaten him with prison time for doing a bad job, so he might try a little harder for the prosecutors
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:05 (seven years ago)
Could you get Hannity on obstruction if he calls on witnesses to destroy their phones?
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:05 (seven years ago)
I don't think so
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:10 (seven years ago)
should i poll the AUMF story just to make sure "shrug" wins?
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:16 (seven years ago)
sadly, the only people in congress who seem to care about AUMFs are the people trying to destroy them
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:21 (seven years ago)
I would so have loved a Kaine primary fight.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:25 (seven years ago)
https://www.vox.com/2018/6/12/17455922/wisconsin-special-elections-results-june
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:41 (seven years ago)
Pimp wins GOP primary: https://www.yahoo.com/news/legal-pimp-defeats-nevada-lawmaker-070355548.html
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:50 (seven years ago)
Corker-Kaine needs to die a death ... here's Paul Ryan, Bernie Sanders, a FOX commentator, an ACLU guy, and several others all coming down on the same side of the AUMF question:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?446614-1/constitutional-experts-testify-war-powers-hearing
― Brad C., Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:13 (seven years ago)
by Paul Ryan I assume you mean Rand Paul lol
― Simon H., Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:20 (seven years ago)
Meantime
NEW: Per @KatyTurNBC, Michael Cohen has received word from federal prosecutors that they are preparing paperwork to arrest him.— Caroline O. (@RVAwonk) June 13, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:45 (seven years ago)
lol yes we would not see Paul Ryan on that panel ... war powers stuff seems like Rand Paul's one good issue
― Brad C., Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:46 (seven years ago)
I was briefly very confused
― Simon H., Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:48 (seven years ago)
rand paul is piling up brush along the canada and mexico borders right now
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:34 (seven years ago)
brush = dead emigrants
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:41 (seven years ago)
The reason great dealmakers do not OPENLY celebrate a deal, especially one that is not complete, is that it shows weakness to the other side— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 25, 2013
Trump.........otm????
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:09 (seven years ago)
good thing he hasn't been then
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:18 (seven years ago)
Please tell us more things that distinguish you from great dealmakers, Don.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:20 (seven years ago)
I was trying to figure out why word of Cohen's flipping/imminent arrest would be getting leaked to the press (probably by Cohen himself, cuz why would the attorney's office announce they're about to arrest someone?) and WaPo's Waldman has an explanation that makes a lot of sense:
we should consider one more possibility: that Cohen fed the story of his possible flip to the press in order to convince President Trump to pardon him.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:00 (seven years ago)
can you pardon someone before the full charges have been announced?
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:04 (seven years ago)
yes
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:05 (seven years ago)
Lemme tell you a little story 'bout a guy named Dick.
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:05 (seven years ago)
this crew merits the most cynical interpretation always, and then try to imagine something more evil on top of that.
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:05 (seven years ago)
but only federal crimes, I think?
yea I don't think there's anything Trump can do about Cohen right now
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:06 (seven years ago)
well he could always have him assassinated
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:19 (seven years ago)
hillary would have known what to do
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:20 (seven years ago)
she would've locked herself up!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:21 (seven years ago)
Ingraham has turned on Pruitt. probably means something but she seems like a canary in the dumbass goldmine sometimes, so maybe more will join her
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:22 (seven years ago)
'probably means nothing', i meant
as noted by YMP, Ford pardoned Nixon before he was charged with anything. it can be done. but only if Cohen's looking at federal charges - if there's state charges I don't think Trump can do anything about those. Correct me if I'm wrong, fine legal minds of ILX.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:23 (seven years ago)
Nope.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:25 (seven years ago)
my vague understanding is that mueller is well aware of this and is arranging state charges wherever possible?
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:30 (seven years ago)
― sleeve, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:31 (seven years ago)
otm
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:32 (seven years ago)
BREAKING: Republican Senator Inofe says EPA's Pruitt may need to leave his post. Inhofe represents Oklahoma, where Pruitt was state attorney general.— Mike Dorning (@MikeDorning) June 13, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:35 (seven years ago)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:40 (seven years ago)
reminds me of another RIP thread I should make
Inhofe has been indicating that he was turning against for Pruitt for a while, now, too
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:55 (seven years ago)
have the rocks in his head finally ground out a coherent thought
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:56 (seven years ago)
I'm amazed Pruitt had lasted this long when so many others have resigned under duress.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:14 (seven years ago)
the manbaby likes him, is why
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:14 (seven years ago)
I like that ingraham quote about *pruitt's* judgment making trump look bad, as if president piss baby has no ability to get rid of him at any time
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:23 (seven years ago)
manbaby would never exercise such poor judgment
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:30 (seven years ago)
White House counsel McGahn recused his office from Mueller probe https://t.co/F9bGOZj4Ei— Laura Walker 🍸🦈 (@LauraWalkerKC) June 13, 2018
White House Counsel Don McGahn recused his entire staff last summer from working on the Russia investigation because many of his office’s lawyers played significant roles in key episodes at the center of the probe, former White House attorney Ty Cobb said on Wednesday.McGahn made the decision to halt his staff’s interactions with Special Counsel Robert Mueller because many of his own attorneys “had been significant participants” surrounding the firings of national security adviser Michael Flynn and FBI Director James Comey, Cobb said.
McGahn made the decision to halt his staff’s interactions with Special Counsel Robert Mueller because many of his own attorneys “had been significant participants” surrounding the firings of national security adviser Michael Flynn and FBI Director James Comey, Cobb said.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:42 (seven years ago)
What does that mean though and why is Cobb even talking about it?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:50 (seven years ago)
He doesn't work there any more, he can say whatever.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:51 (seven years ago)
This happened last year though right? I'm just not sure what the significance of this is.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:54 (seven years ago)
yeah why is something that happened a year ago being referenced now
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:57 (seven years ago)
huh
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/392117-sherrod-brown-tops-gop-challenger-by-17-points-in-ohio-senate-poll
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 22:00 (seven years ago)
Another similarity between the Trump White House and media companies https://t.co/cQSmcgV6g3— David Uberti (@DavidUberti) June 13, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 22:17 (seven years ago)
I'm amazed Pruitt had lasted this long
Leaving him in place is just another form of trolling libs / collecting libtears. The line on Pruitt is that even if his spending on perks may LOOK a trifle lavish, he's saving America much more money than that by cutting excessive, job-killing regulations.
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 22:45 (seven years ago)
Also whatabout whatabout whatabout. Blah blah thousand-dollar toilet blah blah $500 hammer blah blah welfare queens
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 22:46 (seven years ago)
Mari Stull, a former food and beverage lobbyist-turned-wine blogger under the name “Vino Vixen,” has reviewed the social media pages of State Department staffers for signs of ideological deviation. She has researched the names of government officials to determine whether they signed off on Obama-era policies — though signing off does not mean officials personally endorsed them but merely cleared them through the bureaucratic chain. And she has inquired about Americans employed by international agencies, including the World Health Organization and the United Nations, asking their colleagues when they were hired and by whom, according the officials. “She is actively making lists and gathering intel,” said one of the sources, a senior diplomat. Stull was named in April as a senior advisor to the State Department’s Bureau of International Organization Affairs, which manages U.S. diplomatic relations with the United Nations and other international institutions.Her probing, along with a highly secretive management style, has become so uncomfortable that at least three senior officials are poised to leave the bureau, according to the sources. Officials there have warned some Americans employed by the U.N. to sidestep traditional meet-and-greet sessions with the department’s upper management to avoid drawing attention to themselves.“She is gunning for American citizens in the U.N. to see if they are toeing the line,” the diplomatic source added.http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/06/13/trumps-vino-vixen-compiles-loyalty-list-of-u-s-employees-at-u-n-state-mari-stull-political-appointee-state-department-international-organization-united-nations-political-retribution-chaos-dysfunction/
― maura, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 23:18 (seven years ago)
Trump claims, preposterously, that parents of Korean War veterans came up to him during the 2016 campaign and said, "when you can, we'd love our son to be brought back home -- you know, the remains."The Korean War ended in 1953. pic.twitter.com/f4HEHZ22YM— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 13, 2018
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 23:49 (seven years ago)
Whomp whomp.
BREAKING NEWS: Sarah Sanders and Raj Shah are preparing to leave the White House - CBS News, citing sources— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 14, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:12 (seven years ago)
xp lol TRUMP: OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DONE SOME REALLY BAD THINGS
― mookieproof, Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:19 (seven years ago)
FOX NEWS ALERT
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:20 (seven years ago)
Just doing the arithmetic for the exquisite fun of it - let's say an 18 year old was killed in Korea in 1953, thus born in 1935, to, say, 18 year old parents born in 1917, who would now be 101 years old. I'm impressed they realised that Trump was the man to bring the 65 year old remains back, and even more impressed that the North Koreans have taken care of the remains for that long.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:47 (seven years ago)
don't worry right wing, i've got you covered - korean war never really "ended", and there were two american soldiers killed on the DMZ in the 80s in firefights with north korea, trump could have talked to the parents of one of those guys, trump talks to many people, many people have said he is the smartest and never lies to us
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:56 (seven years ago)
lol my dad (87) was fresh outta school and serving not in theater in 52, so i’m... “holy crap even trump has to know the math, because he wouldnt even _need_ fuckin math” but as usual, NOPE.
― Hunt3r, Thursday, 14 June 2018 01:06 (seven years ago)
Shuckabee disputing the report, might be one of those planted stories
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2018 01:29 (seven years ago)
Says she's thinking about the end of the year, so plenty of time to mysteriously change her mind.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2018 01:32 (seven years ago)
Also worth noting
White House source will not confirm the CBS news report, but is willing to throw Mercedes under the bus.— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) June 14, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2018 01:33 (seven years ago)
Mmm...cult? Nah.
Complacency is our enemy. Anyone that does not embrace the @realDonaldTrump agenda of making America great again will be making a mistake.— Ronna McDaniel (@GOPChairwoman) June 14, 2018
Starting to get some handout photos from our tour with @HHSGov. Here’s the Trump mural I mentioned to @chrislhayes inside the shelter for incarcerated child migrants. Also their beds and the towels they shower with. pic.twitter.com/EPEQ1VGAAF— Jacob Soboroff (@jacobsoboroff) June 14, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2018 02:01 (seven years ago)
Holy shiiiit
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2018 02:35 (seven years ago)
Well, I can officially say I've never wished harder for our president to peacefully pass away in his sleep tonight. Or just right now, if he doesn't feel like waiting that long to bow out.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 June 2018 02:40 (seven years ago)
That chairwoman tweet gettin a hell of a ratio
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2018 02:43 (seven years ago)
Our govt has been doing this to kids for years, cept we lock em up in malaria-riddled 3rd world tent cities and leave them there for 10years :(
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 14 June 2018 03:53 (seven years ago)
someone tell turnbull to mention this to Trump, it'll seriously improve relations
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 June 2018 03:53 (seven years ago)
Trumble, please.
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Thursday, 14 June 2018 04:54 (seven years ago)
lol i had forgotten about Trumble!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 14 June 2018 05:24 (seven years ago)
Okay this is hilarious.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/13/white-house-hill-job-fair-645592
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2018 05:31 (seven years ago)
It'll eventually just be Trump and Stephen Miller, Big & Little Edie-ing it in a crumbling White House full of raccoons.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 June 2018 10:27 (seven years ago)
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 June 2018 12:31 (seven years ago)
fuck these clowns
the quote in that mural is from THE ART OF THE DEAL. worth noting that apparently there are murals of other presidents around the facility; their images are paired with pro immigration quotes
― maura, Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:22 (seven years ago)
time for this motherfucker and his faithful pull a jim jones/ peeps temple
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:28 (seven years ago)
this probably isn't the place for this, there probably isn't a place for this, but i woke up at 2 am thinkin bout things and wrote this blog post. it's probably bullshit but all writing on politics is these days, isn't it?
http://shoutinginabucket.blogspot.com/2018/06/democracy-has-failed.html
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:55 (seven years ago)
#BREAKING Major military exercises 'suspended indefinitely' on Korean peninsula: US official pic.twitter.com/37FtPqrxH8— AFP news agency (@AFP) June 14, 2018
― Simon H., Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:57 (seven years ago)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/us/nicholas-bukoski-sanders-kamala-threat.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
The defendant said he did not have access to a firearm because his “parents won’t purchase a firearm based on his history and the strict gun laws in Maryland,” and said that he “probably won’t be able to get one,” the memo said.
whoa. weird. really weird. what the hell
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:12 (seven years ago)
The kind of pathetic that quickly shifts into horrible.
“I don’t want to kill people unless I absolutely need to,” the defendant reportedly said.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:16 (seven years ago)
“My heart is messed up and evil, and part of me wants to see people suffer, goddammit,” it read. “Anyway, good luck and Godspeed finding my presents. This will be my only message.”
jfc
― Simon H., Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:19 (seven years ago)
“I am intending to send the message that gun control, bomb control, or any other kind of weapons control will not stop attacks, it is an issue of the heart.”—The defendant said he did not have access to a firearm because his “parents won’t purchase a firearm based on his history and the strict gun laws in Maryland,” and said that he “probably won’t be able to get one,” the memo said.—Hmmmm
― circa1916, Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:23 (seven years ago)
The final bit about how he was arrested for robbery at knifepoint earlier this year already tells me this guy has general problems.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:29 (seven years ago)
*Stringer Bell voice* https://t.co/SDjRc6a5s5 pic.twitter.com/qe85bts7Qq— Adam Serwer 🍝 (@AdamSerwer) June 14, 2018
― Simon H., Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:56 (seven years ago)
At what point does 4chan get considered as a radicalizing terrorist cell?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:03 (seven years ago)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-york-files-suit-against-president-trump-alleging-his-charity-engaged-in-illegal-conduct/2018/06/14/c3cbf71e-6fc9-11e8-bd50-b80389a4e569_story.html?utm_term=.e6f7d9711f7a
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:05 (seven years ago)
How will his base spin this pose?
Even Kim Jong-Un looks like he’s thinking ‘Um, are you supposed to be doing that’ pic.twitter.com/DPwqt8Moe5— Jason Isbell (@JasonIsbell) June 14, 2018
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:08 (seven years ago)
pic.twitter.com/FZu7ZTEIiO— whataboutism advocate (@NormsRespecter) June 14, 2018
― Simon H., Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:13 (seven years ago)
"In addition, in 2012, a Trump golf club agreed to pay $158,000 to settle a lawsuit with a man who was denied a $1 million hole-in-one prize during a tournament at the club. The Trump Foundation paid the money instead of the club, Underwood said."
― circa1916, Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:21 (seven years ago)
https://www.politicalorphans.com/preparing-for-political-violence/
otm:
When white people carry guns in a standoff with authorities it raises the cost of confrontation, making them hesitant and reticent. When non-whites carry guns while challenging authorities, it justifies any degree of violence the authorities choose to deploy.Complain it about later. Understand it and use it now......If you are a white, materially successful, law-abiding citizen with a sterling credit rating, you are America’s little precious. When something happens to you, the country reels. You are also entirely unaccustomed to any form of conflict with government authorities. Your disobedience is worth several hundred bombs
Complain it about later. Understand it and use it now...
...If you are a white, materially successful, law-abiding citizen with a sterling credit rating, you are America’s little precious. When something happens to you, the country reels. You are also entirely unaccustomed to any form of conflict with government authorities. Your disobedience is worth several hundred bombs
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:26 (seven years ago)
Now that I am back from Singapore, where we had a great result with respect to North Korea, the thought process must sadly go back to the Witch Hunt, always remembering that there was No Collusion and No Obstruction of the fabricated No Crime.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 14, 2018
this may have made more sense in the original Russian
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:28 (seven years ago)
'thought process'
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:29 (seven years ago)
thought processor
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:31 (seven years ago)
is No Crime like Thought Crime
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:32 (seven years ago)
So, the Democrats make up a phony crime, Collusion with the Russians, pay a fortune to make the crime sound real, illegally leak (Comey) classified information so that a Special Councel will be appointed, and then Collude to make this pile of garbage take on life in Fake News!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 14, 2018
feel like this is missing a Nice! at the end
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:33 (seven years ago)
'reactive and involuntary spasming of my nervous system in response to the swarm of angry hornets ricocheting off the inside of my otherwise empty skull'
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:33 (seven years ago)
No Obstruction No CrimeDear little darlin', don't shed no tears.
― Evan, Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:34 (seven years ago)
btw remember how they claimed "Melanie" was a spellcheck error but "Councel" isn't even a word
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:35 (seven years ago)
I'd been meaning to ask: has he still refrained from slamming Avenatti? Because if so, that would be the most impressive bout of self-restraint he may have ever exercised.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:36 (seven years ago)
trump is sadly mistaken - it is well documented that the fabricated No Crime was committed by Not Me, in collusion with Ida Know
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:36 (seven years ago)
it's a celibate lawyer
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:37 (seven years ago)
ok lol
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:39 (seven years ago)
Doctor, I'm slightly disappointed you of all posters didn't make a Billy Joel reference re: "No Crime"
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:39 (seven years ago)
hahaha
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:47 (seven years ago)
I feel like I can almost see behind the curtain on this one: He sort of knows there are two words, "counsel" and "council," but he doesn't know which one applies here, so he's splitting the difference, which makes him look even dumber than he really is.
― Eliza D., Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:47 (seven years ago)
This is from a real estate investment banker. When the NY Times, Washington Post, etc. report on Trump's base, they should go talk to people like this, who are by far the most powerful part of it. pic.twitter.com/KaWYRm2Ghi— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) June 14, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:53 (seven years ago)
The sleazy New York Democrats, and their now disgraced (and run out of town) A.G. Eric Schneiderman, are doing everything they can to sue me on a foundation that took in 8,800,000 and gave out to charity more money than it took in, 9,200,000. I won’t settle this case!...— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 14, 2018
this doesn't seem suspicious to me
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2018 16:01 (seven years ago)
Seems easily checked
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 14 June 2018 16:04 (seven years ago)
no settlement eh? let's get that deposition scheduled then.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 14 June 2018 16:05 (seven years ago)
the thought process must sadly go back to the Witch Hunt
...because I can't stop thinking about it, cause I'm scared shitless.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 14 June 2018 16:13 (seven years ago)
why must we keep talking about this thing that I keep talking about??
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 14 June 2018 16:14 (seven years ago)
'the' thought process synecdoche?
yeah seems like the singuuar being viewed as the general by the single minded person supposedly possessing the definite article.
but surely, No thought no process? or no process to the though anyway.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 14 June 2018 16:35 (seven years ago)
Looks like the IG report coming out today will not be the bombshell Trump was hoping it would be.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:07 (seven years ago)
that oughtta shut him up for a while
― the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:17 (seven years ago)
Trump is going to treat it like a huge bombshell that validates everything he's ever said
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:18 (seven years ago)
what's actually in it is irrelevant
"slapstick corruption" is the single best phrase I have ever read to describe this administration
This is just such slapstick corruption from the Trump Foundation pic.twitter.com/aY8l1E2AJF— Sam Stein (@samstein) June 14, 2018
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:27 (seven years ago)
The media is focusing on the leaked anti-Trump texts aspect of the report.
These are stunning texts for FBI officials to have written.Lisa Page: “[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!”Peter Strzok: “No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it.” https://t.co/AbfxwPeeow— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) June 14, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:32 (seven years ago)
not good
― sleeve, Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:38 (seven years ago)
lmao good luck usa
― Simon H., Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:39 (seven years ago)
there you go
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:40 (seven years ago)
yep. trump will never ever shut up about those texts until the day he dies, and neither will his base. it's going to be nauseating.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:43 (seven years ago)
yup.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:44 (seven years ago)
but her texts
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:44 (seven years ago)
the worst part is we won't even get the satisfaction of the destruction of the FBI out of this
― Simon H., Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:45 (seven years ago)
It’s a repetition of how the election itself was covered for sure.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:46 (seven years ago)
We've seen those texts already.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:47 (seven years ago)
Yup.
Justice Dept finds no evidence of political bias by Strzok, Page: report https://t.co/z6nYPKr5oJ pic.twitter.com/QO5ZuVwpIG— The Hill (@thehill) June 14, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:47 (seven years ago)
It doesn’t matter apparently
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:47 (seven years ago)
not the "we'll stop him" exchange. that's newly disclosed.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:50 (seven years ago)
How will this be any different from other awful Trump tweet storms besides Tapper's high moral dudgeon?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:50 (seven years ago)
cue the conversation about how none of this matters, they would have found something in the IG report to hone in on and complain about until the end of the days. all of that's true. just saying, we are never going to hear the end of "we'll stop him"
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
jake tapper and maggie haberman both ran with those texts as the big takeaway before the rest of the report was out in the open
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:53 (seven years ago)
Hahah HERE'S the news, if you ask me.
IG found that on numerous occasions, COMEY used a personal GMail account to conduct official FBI business, according to source briefed on the report.— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) June 14, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:53 (seven years ago)
not that it was ever REALLY in doubt but i think its pretty clear that trump will not be impeached at this point
― gbx, Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:55 (seven years ago)
or like found guilty of anything
i'll be plenty happy with no second term at this point
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:56 (seven years ago)
It’s not just that we live in a simulation, it’s that we live in a simulation of Hillary Clinton’s personal idea of hell https://t.co/PsFI5BG5d1— David Klion 🔥 (@DavidKlion) June 14, 2018
― Simon H., Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:59 (seven years ago)
Err fun with formatting there
― Simon H., Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:00 (seven years ago)
People routinely pretend that there haven’t already been indictments and guilty pleas in the investigation already.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:02 (seven years ago)
Isn't no punishment of the most corrupt incumbency ever likely to lead to repetition though?JUst hoping that there is some honesty in the near future and it's more than simply a brak in the new normal.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:03 (seven years ago)
JUst hoping that there is some honesty in the near future and it's more than simply a brak in the new normal.
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:05 (seven years ago)
Do I know what about the USA? My Dad lived there for about 30 years.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:10 (seven years ago)
did things get more or less normal during those 30 years
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:12 (seven years ago)
i don't even know wtf i'm talking about, disregard
how do you really stop a tyrant i wish we knowed
― Hunt3r, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:15 (seven years ago)
the pittsburgh post-gazette has fired its political cartoonist of 25 years, pretty obviously because of his anti-trump cartoons
― mookieproof, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:17 (seven years ago)
We've undoubtedly reached the point where we can confidently refer to this as "situation normal", so all good, right?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:17 (seven years ago)
Comey personal gmail news is some beyond ironic bullshit
― Dan S, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:19 (seven years ago)
Aaron Mate at the Nation argues it still ain't collusion yet.https://www.thenation.com/article/mueller-indictments-still-dont-add-collusion/
― Simon H., Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:19 (seven years ago)
Anyway, here's the report
https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:21 (seven years ago)
Hmmm
Source briefed on the IG report says issue of alleged leaks to Rudy about Clinton investigation info isn't limited to what's in this report. More info to come on that later.— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) June 14, 2018
My automatic response to what I'm sure will be thousands of smug invocations of 'we'll stop him' would be something like 'well, did they?'
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:22 (seven years ago)
Did they? Have they? Have they even slowed him? Has anyone hindered him more than he's hindered himself?
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:23 (seven years ago)
Aaron Mate piece is predictably awful, he’s been aggressively downplaying and moving goalposts throughout this whole thing though for whatever reason.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:28 (seven years ago)
lol WaPo has changed their headline from the "we'll stop him" quote to "Watchdog report blasts Comey, documents major missteps in FBI probe of Clinton’s email"
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:40 (seven years ago)
Lol of course. Bad faith interpretations in defense of the fascist president but from the left.
Peter Strzok helped launch/oversee the FBI's initial Trump-Russia investigation in summer 2016 and later joined Mueller's team as its top agent before being removed in July 2017. This is not a good look: https://t.co/ChOuOJi6kA— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) June 14, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:40 (seven years ago)
Inspector general Michael Horowitz accused Comey of insubordination, saying he flouted Justice Department practices when he decided only he had the authority and credibility to make key decisions and speak for the Justice Department.
Comey made a “serious error of judgment” in sending a letter to Congress on Oct. 28 announcing he was reopening the investigation of Clinton’s use of the server while secretary of state, the report found, and called it “extraordinary that Comey assessed that it was best” for him not to speak directly with either the Attorney General or the Deputy Attorney General about his decision beforehand.
wasn't this the cover story Rosenstein & Trump initially put forward for firing Comey
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:44 (seven years ago)
libs like Nerdstrom ready to interpret any critique of any "anti-Trump" force as a defense of Yam
wd probably be up for a coup though
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:45 (seven years ago)
this hope that Mueller, the FBI etc would ever serve as any kind of significant check on Trump was always unrealistic, as I've said repeatedly. The only solution to stopping Trump is a political one - ie, control of Congress + winning elections
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:46 (seven years ago)
in the meantime, this fight between law enforcement and Trump is producing the ideal outcome at the moment - keeping the president distracted, embattled, and under a cloud.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:47 (seven years ago)
wrt USA quote above I was just pointing at honesty in USA life & saying things are gonna about as you’d have to expect
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
also popcorn sales are up xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:53 (seven years ago)
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OK, just hoping that there are not going to be other incumbencies competing with this one for rewriting the norms to the absolute worst.Maybe a little idealistic.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 14 June 2018 19:03 (seven years ago)
yamsymps like morbs need to come correct youre better dead than yam.
― Hunt3r, Thursday, 14 June 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)
nice try
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 June 2018 19:13 (seven years ago)
War Dems on the march!
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senators-move-block-trump-removing-us-troops-south/story?id=55866351
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 June 2018 19:23 (seven years ago)
Like, what exactly is your analysis of authoritarianism if it includes *giving* the president *more* powers of domestic surveillance and *stopping* the president from withdrawing troops from foreign countries? https://t.co/YdmbWkTLFe— corey robin (@CoreyRobin) June 14, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 June 2018 19:36 (seven years ago)
Stopping the president from doing something is more authoritarian?
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 14 June 2018 19:50 (seven years ago)
the more troops everywhere, the more free everyone is
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 June 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)
or
In the 1970s, when liberals and Democrats were serious about their fears of an authoritarian presidency, they moved to *limit* the president's ability to deploy troops abroad. Today, they do this. https://t.co/AlvGWPVz91— corey robin (@CoreyRobin) June 14, 2018
Chris Murphy has been pushing a fairly consistent anti-war agenda, he’s smart enough to know that the answer isn’t as simple US eliminates all military presence abroad.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 14 June 2018 20:02 (seven years ago)
v important that you guys figure out the correct stance on this bill that has no chance of passage
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 20:08 (seven years ago)
yeah when I saw Murphy's name attached I had my doubts about the headline, and the headlines have been wrong -- check out the IG report -- all day.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 June 2018 20:08 (seven years ago)
construction of tent city for captive kids to commence
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-admin-will-house-migrant-kids-tents-tornillo-texas-n883281?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 June 2018 21:17 (seven years ago)
what the fuck is any of this
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 14 June 2018 21:19 (seven years ago)
what could possibly go wrong
I assume it will be called "Trumpville"
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 21:20 (seven years ago)
Any inept email usage from anyone over 45 years old is a super "no shit?" moment.
― Yerac, Thursday, 14 June 2018 21:30 (seven years ago)
ARRRRRRRRGH
But my emails. https://t.co/G7TIWDEG0p— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) June 14, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2018 21:41 (seven years ago)
motherfuckers will put a sign at the gate that says "el trabajo te libera"
― a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Thursday, 14 June 2018 21:44 (seven years ago)
in other newshttp://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/392222-poll-casey-holds-double-digit-lead-over-barletta-in-pa-senate-race
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 21:45 (seven years ago)
The poll also shows Gov. Tom Wolf (D) with a similar double-digit lead over his GOP challenger, former state Sen. Scott Wagner.
nice
― sleeve, Thursday, 14 June 2018 21:48 (seven years ago)
let's start from the position that hillary's the past, trump's the past, ICE is the past, the FBI is the past, let's get past all that shit into something new please
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 June 2018 21:59 (seven years ago)
trump reponsding to that tweet saying he's sending the DOJ after her
someone fucking remove these people from the planet please
― akm, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:10 (seven years ago)
that's a fake account
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:11 (seven years ago)
oh that wasn't really him, nvm
― akm, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:11 (seven years ago)
remove twitter from the planet please
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:11 (seven years ago)
yes, I'm pwned like an old person on the internetz
i'm all for vacuuming this admin into the dead of space though
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:12 (seven years ago)
at this point it's just a cesspool of misinformation
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:12 (seven years ago)
BREAKING: Republicans are floating a draft bill that would end family separations as the U.S. plans to reopen a tent shelter to house migrant children.
A draft text of the Republicans’ bill also calls for visas for young undocumented immigrants known as “dreamers” as well as billions in funding for President Trump’s border wall. Conservatives and moderates are reserving judgment on the legislation ahead of expected votes next week.
The compromise bill would end the practice of dividing immigrant children from their parents at the border, a policy criticized earlier Thursday by Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.). The U.S. will soon begin housing migrant children at a shelter site near El Paso that was last used in 2016 to house migrant children and families in large canvas tents. The site will have recreation areas and educational programming, and the tents are air-conditioned, officials said.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:14 (seven years ago)
Pelosi said earlier no Dem will vote for this fwiw
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:15 (seven years ago)
does that matter? serious q.
― sleeve, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:16 (seven years ago)
maybe no one born before 1955 should be allowed to hold office or vote or tweet
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:16 (seven years ago)
^^ works for me
does it matter that no Dems will vote for it? Probably, considering Ryan is now a lame duck speaker and the caucus is very divisively split over immigration. Freedom Caucus members are already complaining about the "compromise" bill (although they are at least getting their vote on the Goodlatte bill - which the GOP "moderates" and Dems both hate and will never pass)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:18 (seven years ago)
gotcha, I was just envisioning Pence breaking a tie but it's even more likely that FC or some grandstanding R senator will join the Dems and vote no
that being said, I'll believe it when I see it
― sleeve, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:28 (seven years ago)
Pence doesn't cast votes in the House
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:30 (seven years ago)
also this "compromise" bill is basically what got killed in the Senate earlier (minus this provision about families being separated, which was not policy back during the Senate debate) - in fact, this very framework was what Trump wanted most, and it got the fewest votes of the options that were put up by McConnell.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:31 (seven years ago)
so basically this has next to no chance of becoming law, but it is notable because it *does* have the chance to expose deep divisions in the GOP caucus ahead of the elections and make various members' more vulnerable
absurd bill, stop attaching your fucking border wall to everything dumbasses.
― akm, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:38 (seven years ago)
oh duh sorry for House/Senate confusion, thanks outic
― sleeve, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:39 (seven years ago)
there goes social security
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:42 (seven years ago)
Jesus Christ, no more mentions of the bible or religion in any kind of government space. That's beyond absurd.
― Yerac, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:48 (seven years ago)
stop attaching your fucking border wall to everything dumbasses.
this is their only legislative strategy - they keep thinking if they attach it to something a) the president will sign it and b) Democrats will be tricked (or coerced) into voting for it
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:48 (seven years ago)
tbf the Bible totally endorses indentured servitude for children, worked out great for Joseph iirc
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:49 (seven years ago)
i would've have agreed in the past but it's becoming increasingly clear that the olds are going to happily hoover it up for themselves but are actively destroying it and Medicare for their kids and grandkids
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:55 (seven years ago)
boomers, the shittiest generation
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:56 (seven years ago)
BREAKING: Republicans are floating a draft bill that would end family separations as the U.S. plans to reopen a tent shelter to house migrant children.A draft text of the Republicans’ bill also calls for visas for young undocumented immigrants known as “dreamers” as well as billions in funding for President Trump’s border wall. Conservatives and moderates are reserving judgment on the legislation ahead of expected votes next week.The compromise bill would end the practice of dividing immigrant children from their parents at the border, a policy criticized earlier Thursday by Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.). The U.S. will soon begin housing migrant children at a shelter site near El Paso that was last used in 2016 to house migrant children and families in large canvas tents. The site will have recreation areas and educational programming, and the tents are air-conditioned, officials said.
also adds 25 billion for the fuckin wall
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:57 (seven years ago)
Dems wanted to trade DACA reinstatement for funding the wall. R's wanted to tack on a lot more immigration crap beyond funding the wall in exchange for reinstating DACA. No deal. Now the R's think stopping treating foreign-born children like pieces of shit is a good exchange for the Dems funding the wall. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the art of the deal.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:09 (seven years ago)
exactly
― Dan S, Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:27 (seven years ago)
When white people carry guns in a standoff with authorities it raises the cost of confrontation, making them hesitant and reticent. When non-whites carry guns while challenging authorities, it justifies any degree of violence the authorities choose to deploy.Complain it about later. Understand it and use it now...
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will)
so i had to look chris ladd up because i had to know how he knew so exactly well what sen. merkley _should_ have done, because god knows every member of congress wants to be the next leo ryan. rationalwiki has a page on him!
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chris_Ladd
"If you want to read more reasonable moderate (compared to the GOP at least) conservative opinions he's probably one of your better choices."
this guy is a "moderate conservative"? either rationalwiki's entry is out of date or we're all fucked. possibly both.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:40 (seven years ago)
― (•̪●) (carne asada)
and alcohol sales. and the suicide rate.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:46 (seven years ago)
― Yerac
i'm def looking forward to being totally inept at email in three years
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:47 (seven years ago)
details from the IG report about the Lynch/B. Clinton meeting. wow, sounds like a great time was had
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/clinton-lynch-doj-ig-tarmac-meeting
The conversation lasted 20 minutes, Lynch recalled, before one of her staffers boarded the plane to intervene.Meanwhile, among Lynch’s staff waiting on the tarmac in her motorcade, a panic was beginning to swell, according to the report:The Deputy Chief of Staff said that they quickly realized that the meeting was problematic, because Clinton was not just the former President but was also the husband of someone who was under investigation. The Deputy Chief of Staff said that she felt “shocked,” and that they all “just felt completely…blindsided.” The Senior Counselor said that they immediately were aware that the meeting was ill-advised and that the “optics were not great.”They called DOJ’s Public Affairs Director Melanie Newman and “sounded the alarm.”
Meanwhile, among Lynch’s staff waiting on the tarmac in her motorcade, a panic was beginning to swell, according to the report:
The Deputy Chief of Staff said that they quickly realized that the meeting was problematic, because Clinton was not just the former President but was also the husband of someone who was under investigation. The Deputy Chief of Staff said that she felt “shocked,” and that they all “just felt completely…blindsided.” The Senior Counselor said that they immediately were aware that the meeting was ill-advised and that the “optics were not great.”
They called DOJ’s Public Affairs Director Melanie Newman and “sounded the alarm.”
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 June 2018 00:04 (seven years ago)
Yet one more example of Clinton's much overrated political skills abandoning him.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 June 2018 00:14 (seven years ago)
even now, he doesn't seem to understand the problem.
Clinton, in his interview with the inspector general investigators, said he was surprised by the scrutiny the meeting attracted.“The mainstream media wasn’t as bad on that as they were on a lot of things, I thought, I think the ones that were criticizing me, I thought you know, I don’t know whether I’m more offended that they think I’m crooked or that they think I’m stupid,” he said, according to the report.
“The mainstream media wasn’t as bad on that as they were on a lot of things, I thought, I think the ones that were criticizing me, I thought you know, I don’t know whether I’m more offended that they think I’m crooked or that they think I’m stupid,” he said, according to the report.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 June 2018 00:16 (seven years ago)
Sorry, Bill, but if you think the appearance of impropriety, without the disinfectant of transparency, can be dismissed just by taking offense, then fella, you are stupid. In fact one the greatest stupidities of very smart people is thinking that smart is something you just are, rather than a trait that only appears your actions.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 15 June 2018 00:23 (seven years ago)
this guy is a "moderate conservative"? either rational wiki's entry is out of date or we're all fucked. possibly both.
i follow him some on social media and i may be wrong but i get the impression that Ladd was a "moderate" Republican who's gone pretty far left (relatively) as the GOP has heartily embraced the ugliest elements of Trumpism
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 15 June 2018 00:28 (seven years ago)
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy)
This is on a non-rolling basis. I don't know how many high paid, elite douches (to include relatives of past presidents) I have had to explain the difference between single clicking and double clicking to or not to "reply all".
― Yerac, Friday, 15 June 2018 01:10 (seven years ago)
50 Billion in tarriffs on Chinese goods
Isn't this how the Phantom Menace started?
― akm, Friday, 15 June 2018 02:15 (seven years ago)
From Mate's piece:
"But lying to reporters is not an indictable offense, and neither is showing a willingness to obtain foreign dirt."
I thought the latter was an indictable offense?
― the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Friday, 15 June 2018 02:29 (seven years ago)
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/7/10/15950590/donald-trump-jr-new-york-times-illegal
― the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Friday, 15 June 2018 02:31 (seven years ago)
political orphan on Ladd and its founding: "One party has embraced white nationalism while the other struggles to sustain an unsteady coalition of ‘everyone else.’"
i'm not judging Ladd's moderation, but this observation if it reflects Ladd's own opinion, is about right.
― Hunt3r, Friday, 15 June 2018 03:05 (seven years ago)
it's been interesting watching Ladd and especially Bruce Bartlett lurch further left than your average Sensible Centrist Democrat
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 15 June 2018 03:14 (seven years ago)
XxxxxpostThat political violence article drastically understates the cops' willingness to bash & kill white liberals
― Bnad, Friday, 15 June 2018 04:17 (seven years ago)
Yeah, I was gonna say... The Bundys are a special case, not the norm.
― nickn, Friday, 15 June 2018 06:22 (seven years ago)
honestly mostly i wanted to find out if chris ladd was white
if he's not that piece is defensible
if he is then modeling how white men should behave is somewhat more useful than lecturing other white men about how they're doing it wrong
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:29 (seven years ago)
It's not really either/or
― Frederik B, Friday, 15 June 2018 12:43 (seven years ago)
feel like it's gonna be a very Trumpy day today
― frogbs, Friday, 15 June 2018 12:51 (seven years ago)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:52 (seven years ago)
today i learned that advocating borrowing from the cliven bundy playbook makes one more "left" than Sensible Centrist Democrats who quail at instigating armed conflict
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:54 (seven years ago)
Wow, the highest rated (by far) morning show, @foxandfriends, is on the Front Lawn of the White House. Maybe I’ll have to take an unannounced trip down to see them?— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 15, 2018
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:57 (seven years ago)
Ladd is white. and i'm not (nor do i think he is) suggesting the Left needs to strap up and take a nature preserve.
but i *do* think this is worthy of consideration.
Recognize your leverage... At this stage of the conflict, placing your white body in the way of an unjust authority is an act of war capable of achieving consequential victories. You will experience inconvenience. You might even be briefly detained. But you will bring down painful outcomes that will shift power inside those organizations. Force your enemy to pay a price for the ground they are trying to seize. You may discover that they were weaker than you thought.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:57 (seven years ago)
"liberaltarian" Will Wilkinson (also v white):
If you're white, your duty is to run interference. Just a few seconds of being in the way--acting dumb, having an argument you lose, spilling a drink, locking a door and "losing" the key, etc.--can be the difference between liberty and captivity, can save a family from ruin.
Especially if you're an older authoritative looking management type, use your social capital. Harangue ICE or CBP agents about warrants, demand badge numbers, deny their authority to be there or do what they're doing. The point isn't to be right, the point is to stall.
"How do I know you're really the government?" Call the cops on them. Create administrative confusion. Make them physically move you. If getting arrested for interference keeps some kid's honest, hardworking dad out of an immigrant prison camp, and won't much harm you, cool.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:01 (seven years ago)
what a pathetic tweet
― mookieproof, Friday, 15 June 2018 13:05 (seven years ago)
Ladd is white. and i'm not (nor do i think he is)
Okay, this confused me a lot for a while.
― Frederik B, Friday, 15 June 2018 13:06 (seven years ago)
he's the president of TV ratings
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:13 (seven years ago)
and he's cheesy af
― circa1916, Friday, 15 June 2018 13:16 (seven years ago)
president infomercial
― maura, Friday, 15 June 2018 13:17 (seven years ago)
why can i see his stupid smug grin through that tweet
― circa1916, Friday, 15 June 2018 13:18 (seven years ago)
Because his stupid smug grin will be burned onto the backs of our eyelids until the day when sweet merciful death finally takes us.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:21 (seven years ago)
President Trump on everything but roller skates!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:22 (seven years ago)
Trump on Kim Jong Un: “He speaks and his people sit up in attention. I want my people to do the same.”— Rebecca Ballhaus (@rebeccaballhaus) June 15, 2018
― frogbs, Friday, 15 June 2018 13:23 (seven years ago)
in case it wasn't obvious that Trump's fawning admiration for KJU was anything but sheer jealousy
He's followed up with a press gaggle and claimed people didn't understand sarcasm.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2018 13:31 (seven years ago)
he's kidding but he's not really kidding
― cr.ht (crüt), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:33 (seven years ago)
man "understanding sarcasm" sure has gotten this admin out of some tight spots
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:33 (seven years ago)
Donald Trump, humor expert
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:35 (seven years ago)
he's probably the most humorous man in the world, so it's understandable that it's hard for you fools to keep up
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:41 (seven years ago)
"his people" do exactly the same! he just doesn't have as many of them as he seems to think.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:44 (seven years ago)
see the galaxy on less than 30 liberaltarian bitcoins a day
if one's going to crib from the sovcit playbook i guess it's at least refreshing to admit that there's no point to it other than to create disorder, and it's also refreshing to hear a white man admit that the only thing white men are really good at is fucking things up, but frankly i'm kind of sick of it. i'd like to see white men make an effort to not actively fuck things up for a change. i think we can get there.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:51 (seven years ago)
"I hate it," Pres. Trump says of administration's policy of separating children from parents at the U.S. border, claiming he has no ability to alter the policy without votes from Democrats. https://t.co/FaycODDn27 pic.twitter.com/zEJT1XgxKk— ABC News (@ABC) June 15, 2018
no words for how much I hate this guy
― frogbs, Friday, 15 June 2018 14:08 (seven years ago)
for that matter, i'm not exactly sure how a white man making himself the center of attention - again - is supposed to constitute "running interference". if someone other than a white man asks me to use my white male-presenting body in those ways, i'll do whatever i can to help, but wilkinson and ladd aren't going to get my allegiance.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 15 June 2018 14:11 (seven years ago)
I swear. I know the comparisons have been made over and over but I get the exact feelings of hopelessness when a domestic abuse victim refuses to leave their abuser and you're waiting it out. How can people still support Trump?
― Yerac, Friday, 15 June 2018 14:16 (seven years ago)
The myth of white supremacy is a helluva drug.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 June 2018 14:17 (seven years ago)
Or, more generally, tribalism is a helluva drug.
I mean its pure hatred at this point isn't it?
how can they ever dislike Trump if he pisses off the libs so much?
― frogbs, Friday, 15 June 2018 14:20 (seven years ago)
I still have a lot of friends, mostly teachers, that still think they can pander to them with "civil" discussion and facts. And I know they are educators so they'll keep trying but it's beyond absurd to me at this point.
― Yerac, Friday, 15 June 2018 14:23 (seven years ago)
'Trade wars are good, and easy to win'
JUST IN: In response to new US tariffs on China, China calls “on all countries to take joint action, resolutely put an end to this outdated and regressive behavior, and firmly defend the common interests of mankind.” https://t.co/NjzVMcOhf5— NBC Politics (@NBCPolitics) June 15, 2018
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 June 2018 14:25 (seven years ago)
weird, that quote isn't in the linked article
― sleeve, Friday, 15 June 2018 14:27 (seven years ago)
the PRC, last defender of the free market
― Smolov pupper (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 June 2018 14:27 (seven years ago)
but wilkinson and ladd aren't going to get my allegiance.
i can't speak for either of these guys but i'm right at positive they're not asking for your "allegiance"
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 15 June 2018 14:29 (seven years ago)
xpost that is weird. huh. i have tweeted at NBCPolitics about it, i'm sure they'll get right back to me
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 June 2018 14:30 (seven years ago)
white man making himself the center of attention - again
ok i honestly know how you're getting this from what they're proposing.
i'm sure someone much more well-versed in the theories and legalities of civil disobedience can tell me why these white dude musings don't fall into this category, but i really don't think these guys are on some "sovcit" bullshit.
(ftr Wilkinson isn't some bitcoin loon; he's a leftwing social 'libertarain' who seems much more at ease with dem socialist domestic policies than neolib saber rattling, afaict)
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 15 June 2018 14:39 (seven years ago)
surely there's a better way of conveying that ideology than "liberaltarian"
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 15 June 2018 14:52 (seven years ago)
ugh i typed it out and it's like i can't get the word off my fingers
lol yeah it's bad
who seems much more at ease with dem socialist domestic policies
or at the very least comes across as so on twitter. i do think he's 'evolved' on a lot of this stuff since he was at Cato. (and fired from there during Obama's first term iirc )
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 15 June 2018 14:54 (seven years ago)
I mean this is one of the rare cases where making himself the center of attention is valid as a deflection technique
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 15 June 2018 14:57 (seven years ago)
yeah I don't know anything about this guy but the quotes here seem fine to me
― Simon H., Friday, 15 June 2018 15:00 (seven years ago)
Lindsey Graham live on @CNN: "If you don't like me working with President Trump to make the world a better place, I don't give a shit" pic.twitter.com/iNnqiYjZpV— Saagar Enjeti (@esaagar) June 15, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 June 2018 15:50 (seven years ago)
i was wondering why all the replies to that tweet were positive and then i read "white house correspondent for the daily calller"
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 15 June 2018 15:54 (seven years ago)
listening to Huckleberry Butchmeup curse is like hearing Julie Andrews admit she loves cock.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 June 2018 15:56 (seven years ago)
except not cool
his about face was pretty abrupt and extreme. he's not even up for reelection until 2020 right?
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 15 June 2018 15:59 (seven years ago)
If I understand Graham's phrasing correctly, he's telling us that he's dangerously constipated.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 June 2018 16:01 (seven years ago)
i'm going to be thinking about Julie Andrews talking about cock for the rest of the day
― Smolov pupper (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 June 2018 16:01 (seven years ago)
Manafort jailed
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-06-15/manafort-sent-to-jail-after-judge-cancels-house-arrest?__twitter_impression=true
― I am using your worlds, Friday, 15 June 2018 16:01 (seven years ago)
xpost One might certainly assume that Team Trump must've stumbled upon some particularly juicy Lindsay Graham kompromat.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 June 2018 16:02 (seven years ago)
excellent
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 16:02 (seven years ago)
in other news, GOP "governing"!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/family-separations-cause-rift-between-gop-leaders-wh-042149469--politics.html
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 16:24 (seven years ago)
President Donald Trump ignited eleventh-hour confusion Friday over Republican efforts to push immigration through the House next week, saying he won't sign a "moderate" package. A top House Republican said the chamber would not tackle the issue without Trump's backing.
The tumult erupted days before GOP leaders planned campaign-season votes on a pair of Republican bills: a hard-right proposal and a middle-ground plan negotiated by the party's conservative and moderate wings.
House Speaker Paul Ryan has said that Trump backs the compromise plan. GOP aides said Trump's remark caught party leaders off-guard, and White House officials did not immediately respond to requests to clarify the president's comment.
So basically the moderates missed their chance to file the discharge petition, and now they got screwed (again!) by GOP leadership. Who could have foreseen this.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 16:25 (seven years ago)
I guess they could still try to file the discharge petition next month but who knows
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 16:26 (seven years ago)
Democrats are now urging moderate Republicans to vote against a procedural move next week to bring the conservative Goodlatte measure to the floor for a vote. Doing so would keep a discharge petition — brought forward by moderate Republicans to force a series of immigration votes — alive. That petition is just two signatures short of succeeding.
The moderate Republicans who prompted the immigration fight were scrambling Friday to determine if Trump really meant what he said during his “Fox and Friends” interview.
“I’m not sure that the president understood the question, so we’re checking to see if he did,” said Rep. John Katko (R-N.Y.), a moderate who participated in the talks. “I still have faith that when he sees the bill and has a chance to digest it, he’ll support it.”
Katko sounds like a real bright guy rmde
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 16:29 (seven years ago)
by "sees" he means "eats" and by "bill" he means "big bowl of chocolate ice cream"
― valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, 15 June 2018 16:30 (seven years ago)
this separating children from their mothers thing seems like a major PR disaster for the GOP, Dems are gonna push that shit hard in their election messaging, I would think. it's so fucking inhumane, instant outrage-inducing motivation
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 16:35 (seven years ago)
maybe the wrong thread, but does anyone know the best organizations to either donate to or work directly with to help people trying to cross the border?
― k3vin k., Friday, 15 June 2018 16:36 (seven years ago)
otoh Bill Nelson doesn't even have a Spanish language web presence
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 16:36 (seven years ago)
Bill Nelson doesn't even have a Spanish language web presence.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 June 2018 16:51 (seven years ago)
at this point my guess is the Senate comes out kind of a wash - maybe the GOP gains a couple seats. Dems win in AZ but lose in FL, Manchin and Tester probably hang on. who knows what happens in Missouri.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 16:53 (seven years ago)
literally all paul manafort had to do to enjoy a quiet life of egregious crime was not win a presidential election— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) June 15, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 June 2018 16:55 (seven years ago)
― Οὖτις, Friday, June 15, 2018 5:35 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i think this has legs
― you bet, nancy (map), Friday, 15 June 2018 16:59 (seven years ago)
I’m stunned speechless. Daou is normally the lowest of hacks. pic.twitter.com/tKfHsMFGvZ— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) June 15, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 June 2018 17:01 (seven years ago)
lmao @ the angry Clintonites in his mentions and the rose twitter folks defending him! wild
― Simon H., Friday, 15 June 2018 17:02 (seven years ago)
many xps to Karl - looks like that China Commerce Ministry quote is from this other article (which I posted on the US Economy Into The Shitbin thread)
http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/14/news/economy/trump-china-tariffs/index.html
― sleeve, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:04 (seven years ago)
lot of interesting stuff in here, including actual pushback from conservatives/evangelicals on the separating families thing: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2018/06/15/daily-202-trump-is-losing-the-debate-over-splitting-up-immigrant-families/5b2305ab30fb046c468e6ee4/?utm_term=.bc604ac3a6da
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:10 (seven years ago)
It’s telling that Trump himself doesn’t take credit for the policy, his line is essentially to pretend “Democrats are making me do it”
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:12 (seven years ago)
Henwood and Daou
https://tenor.com/view/two-spiderman-pointing-meme-gif-11796793
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:13 (seven years ago)
yeah I'm not sure if anyone is buying this or how well it's playing - I would think his base of racist monsters would WANT him to take credit for it.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:18 (seven years ago)
Sessions is the one playing 'bad cop' on the separation of families, not that it is much of a reach for him. He seems to want to jail everyone who's not a god-fearing white person or who can impersonate one.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 15 June 2018 17:22 (seven years ago)
"seems to"? no need to equivocate
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:24 (seven years ago)
may not be as direct as you're looking for but National Immigration Law Center has a really good rep afaik
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 15 June 2018 17:30 (seven years ago)
https://www.raicestexas.org/ ?
― dan selzer, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:31 (seven years ago)
SCOOP: A fmr top CIA interrogator is training ICE's deportation agents in interrogation methods, documents show.He was hired *3 days* after the Trump admin authorized its policy of separating undocumented families caught crossing the border.https://t.co/jyBzjhXbWX pic.twitter.com/pv3EQPclgy— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) June 15, 2018
― Simon H., Friday, 15 June 2018 17:44 (seven years ago)
can't even spell their fucking headers correctly
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:46 (seven years ago)
I just got this from Elizabeth Warren's office re: organizations to donate to to help families at the border: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/ew-kidsattheborder?refcode=20180615em1-full
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:48 (seven years ago)
lot of interesting stuff in here, including actual pushback from conservatives/evangelicals on the separating families thing: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2018/06/15/daily-202-trump-is-losing-the-debate-over-splitting-up-immigrant-families/5b2305ab30fb046c468e6ee4/?utm_term=.bc604ac3a6da― Οὖτις, Friday, June 15, 2018 12:10 PM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Οὖτις, Friday, June 15, 2018 12:10 PM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yea between this and making buddies with KJU I do feel like we're seeing a bit more "man even I can't defend this anymore" this week
guessing having a campaign manager go to jail is pretty significant too. I mean my god, imagine the bloodlust if Clinton won and Robby Mook got locked up for life
― frogbs, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:53 (seven years ago)
I think the economic blowback from the trade war is going to be more detrimental than KJU photo op tbh
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:58 (seven years ago)
trade war blowback will be strongly evident by 2020 election and the business community will be very resentful about it. but then, about half of Trump's cabinet or senior staff has been reported calling him a moron or a fucking idiot behind the scenes. these two things are not unrelated.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 15 June 2018 18:09 (seven years ago)
The photo op/summit polled very well I thought. Beforehand for sure it was something majority wanted him to do. The unnecessary lines of praise toward KJU afterwards might hurt somewhat and who knows whatever disconcerting consequences come from his repeatedly lying about what the North Koreans agreed to.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 15 June 2018 18:11 (seven years ago)
well I won't pretend to be able to game out 2020 w any confidence at this point because who knows wtf is going to happen on this directionless rollercoaster. But if markets start to tank ahead of the Nov 2018 elections... I dunno how likely that is, economic consequences can take awhile.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 18:12 (seven years ago)
this tweet rules in every way
Wow, what a tough sentence for Paul Manafort, who has represented Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole and many other top political people and campaigns. Didn’t know Manafort was the head of the Mob. What about Comey and Crooked Hillary and all of the others? Very unfair!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 15, 2018
― frogbs, Friday, 15 June 2018 19:00 (seven years ago)
I doubt any Americans knew a G7 meeting even took place.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 June 2018 19:04 (seven years ago)
https://apnews.com/3361a7d5fa714ea4b028f0a29db1cabc
fuck all the GOP to fucking hell ASAP
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 June 2018 19:05 (seven years ago)
this is a fukcing disgrace, I really dont think i can be more disgusted with this whole fucking thing. Just waiting for the stores of abuse and neglect that will eventually come to light in this damn concentration camps .
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 June 2018 19:12 (seven years ago)
Ben Garrison agrees
#RobertMueller tears apart a family!! So cruel & Heartless to seperate Paul Manafort from his family! #EndTheWitchHuntNow #FamiliesBelongTogether https://t.co/E1fVWR3SeG— Ben Garrison Cartoons at GrrrGraphics.com (@GrrrGraphics) June 15, 2018
― frogbs, Friday, 15 June 2018 19:14 (seven years ago)
― frogbs, Friday, June 15, 2018 7:51 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― frogbs, Friday, 15 June 2018 19:15 (seven years ago)
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 15 June 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)
xposts Yes, I feel all kinds of anger and frustration over the injustices that adults visit upon other adults, but there is a special white hot rage that wells up inside me over children being mistreated. I do not have words for how furious stories like this make me.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 June 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)
not to mention it's literally the Eric Andre meme
"Why would Democrats do this??"
― frogbs, Friday, 15 June 2018 19:24 (seven years ago)
it's going to be a heart-swelling victory when Dems take back power and settle for deporting adults in record numbers instead
― Simon H., Friday, 15 June 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)
hmmm https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/06/15/scott-pruitt-is-going-to-be-fired-very-soon/?utm_term=.d538c35dd056
at this point my only question is will his tenure be longer than Gorsuch's mom's
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 19:48 (seven years ago)
They do, but it's only because of the Trudeau feud.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 June 2018 19:49 (seven years ago)
dissension in the ranks!http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/392507-gop-lawmaker-house-republicans-considering-removing-paul-ryan
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 20:05 (seven years ago)
Very useful thread re Manafort's current bind from a former US attorney.
Thread:Some thoughts on the immediate practical effects of Paul Manafort having bail revoked.1. He will spend tonight in jail.2. He will stay in jail until either (a) an appeals court overturns the bail ruling or (b) his trial. /1— Mitchell Epner (@MitchellEpner) June 15, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2018 20:31 (seven years ago)
I predict Manafort doesn't flip and bets everything on getting a pardon
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 20:33 (seven years ago)
which tbh looks like a very safe bet
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 20:34 (seven years ago)
he has been treated so very unfairly iirc
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 June 2018 20:36 (seven years ago)
"considering" is a word doing a lot of work there; I'm "considering" selling all my possessions and moving to the woods like justin timberlake
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 15 June 2018 20:36 (seven years ago)
what do mob rules say? that's what he'll do.
― Hunt3r, Friday, 15 June 2018 20:44 (seven years ago)
lolhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-i-certainly-wouldnt-sign-house-gop-immigration-compromise/2018/06/15/731ffedc-70a0-11e8-9ab5-d31a80fd1a05_story.html?utm_term=.7286a418a974
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 20:45 (seven years ago)
mob never had a don in the WH
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 15 June 2018 20:45 (seven years ago)
“The president supports both the moderate and the more conservative House immigration bill,” one of the two White House officials said Friday. The other official said Trump misunderstood the question that was posed on “Fox and Friends,” which prompted the president to say that he “certainly wouldn’t sign the more moderate one.”
let's guess which one of these officials is about to be fired
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 20:47 (seven years ago)
"deception, detection, and eliciting responses training", huh
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 15 June 2018 21:48 (seven years ago)
enhanced euphemization
trump tweet
'The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda. Any Immigration Bill MUST HAVE full funding for the Wall, end Catch & Release, Visa Lottery and Chain, and go to Merit Based Immigration. Go for it! WIN!'
this is a hostagetaker
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 June 2018 22:20 (seven years ago)
it's sick
yup
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 22:21 (seven years ago)
monstrous. I don't think this gambit will play well with the general public tbh (or the Democrats)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 22:22 (seven years ago)
fucking "catch & release"
anything and everything to dehumanize immigrants
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 15 June 2018 22:51 (seven years ago)
yeah, it's part of their official lexicon, even: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/need-know-catch-release/at least where i grew up, "catch & release" was always - every single time - a term about animals, fishing, hunting
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 June 2018 23:03 (seven years ago)
well wellhttp://thehill.com/homenews/house/392505-cook-political-report-moves-gop-chairmans-race-to-toss-up-inbox-x
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 23:05 (seven years ago)
what the fuck are these people (from the hill)
http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/menuimage/rising-web-header-navigation_405x75-fixed.png
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:22 (seven years ago)
Both names sound like porn star names.
― nickn, Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:30 (seven years ago)
― Οὖτις
am predicting the markets will tank right _after_ the 2018 elections and everybody will blame the democrats, because markets are dumb.
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― Hunt3r
"you're all fools" iirc
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:42 (seven years ago)
Suck Bexton.
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:49 (seven years ago)
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/theres-no-stopping-him-trump-insists-on-a-russia-summit
Russia may soon to turn out to be yet another test. Washington’s Russia hands are already steeling themselves for the possibility of a lavish, televised lovefest between the President and Putin. The President appears to have no agenda for his desired summit beyond the wish that it take place, leading many experts to fear that the meeting could turn out to be little more than a “bonding session with another brutal dictator,” as Alexander Vershbow, the U.S. Ambassador to Russia during George W. Bush’s Presidency, put it. Many Russia experts, however, worry that Putin is intent upon securing major concessions from Trump, such as relief from the tough economic sanctions that the U.S. and its allies have imposed on Russia since its 2014 Crimea invasion and 2016 election meddling. And Trump, they fear, might want to give it to him (though a veto-proof majority in Congress stood by the sanctions just last year).
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 June 2018 01:16 (seven years ago)
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Saturday, June 16, 2018 1:49 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i approve of this post
― you bet, nancy (map), Saturday, 16 June 2018 03:25 (seven years ago)
That piece quoting Sessions upthread is pretty frightening: “I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13, to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained the government for his purposes.” Unambiguously claims divine authority for whatever laws can be passed. Church and State, separated for too long by nasty godless liberals!
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 16 June 2018 03:48 (seven years ago)
And this from a bunch of goons who are constantly all “govt is evil; get government off our backs!!”
― tobo73, Saturday, 16 June 2018 09:22 (seven years ago)
If they meant one word of that shit about obeying the law, there wouldn't be any complaints about having to bake cakes for and shoot wedding photos of same sex couples.
― a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Saturday, 16 June 2018 11:30 (seven years ago)
Paul Ryan gettin ratio'd HARD here
My life changed the day I became a father. Liza, Charlie, and Sam are my highest priority. Wishing all of the dads out there a happy early #FathersDay pic.twitter.com/w3UsSkR4Lf— Paul Ryan (@SpeakerRyan) June 16, 2018
― frogbs, Saturday, 16 June 2018 21:24 (seven years ago)
You know Ryan puts his family first. He's not running for reelection just so he can spend more time with them. I hope he never works again and becomes a house daddy, happily raising his children to be better people than he is. Much better people.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 16 June 2018 22:45 (seven years ago)
This seems somewhat important: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/southern-baptists-call-off-the-culture-war/563000/
― Frederik B, Saturday, 16 June 2018 22:47 (seven years ago)
If the generational shift the author is describing has already happened in the SBC, then it was a shift that made no difference to U.S. politics in 2016. It's hard to believe that whatever is happening with Southern Baptists is anything but a gradual, almost imperceptible, change in terms of voting patterns.
The worst outcome for the Republicans would be an erosion of their control over the political organizing power the churches represent. Churches are the nuclei of community in the rural south, at least as potent as the local high school football team.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 16 June 2018 22:58 (seven years ago)
Classy leadership.
"A lawsuit filed against Pressler alleging decades of sexual molestation, beginning while the plaintiff was just 14, included two additional affidavits from individuals alleging that Pressler had committed sexual misconduct against them while they were young men. And Patterson has drawn criticism for encouraging abused women to submit to their violent husbands. He was dismissed from his post as president of Southwestern Seminary after being accused of failing to properly report at least two allegations of rape. More than 3,000 Southern Baptist women signed a petition calling for his resignation."
― earlnash, Saturday, 16 June 2018 23:45 (seven years ago)
get the actual foh. like evangelicals—even country club evangelicals like the SBC—are just going to chill out with their axe-grinding. their grievance theology is the only thing that fills pews anymore.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 17 June 2018 00:24 (seven years ago)
what, you think you're annoyed about thousands of children being separated from their families for no reason? stephen miller is annoyed that YOU'RE annoyed, so eat it
“No one in our government is willing to take moral lectures from people who support and perpetuate policies that grievously harm innocent Americans,” Mr. Miller added.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:09 (seven years ago)
if stephen miller was more visible and vocal i think he'd be the second hated man in the united states
second most hated man
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:10 (seven years ago)
Billy Graham's son and the Catholic bishops both came out strongly vs the child detentions this week.
Let's see if they're willing to protest.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:12 (seven years ago)
give him a couple months and he probably will be
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:14 (seven years ago)
Billy Graham's son... came out strongly vs the child detentions this week.that is legitimately shocking
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:16 (seven years ago)
“No one in our government is willing to take moral lectures from because we're people who support and perpetuate policies that grievously harm innocent Americans,” Mr. Miller added
FIXED
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 17 June 2018 02:52 (seven years ago)
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I mean, you're probably right, but the article seems to me to be claiming the shift is in response to 2016 and #MeToo.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 17 June 2018 10:51 (seven years ago)
Chuck Schumer said “the Summit was what the Texans call all cattle and no hat.” Thank you Chuck, but are you sure you got that right? No more nuclear testing or rockets flying all over the place, blew up launch sites. Hostages already back, hero remains coming home & much more!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 17, 2018
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 June 2018 11:54 (seven years ago)
hero remains coming home & much more!
― cr.ht (crüt), Sunday, 17 June 2018 12:25 (seven years ago)
a brand new bestie for one.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 17 June 2018 12:32 (seven years ago)
“what’s that? no, i meant a hero remains, coming home. was talkin bout myself! Great!”
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 17 June 2018 12:49 (seven years ago)
Wtf @ “all cattle and no hat” rmde
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 17 June 2018 14:19 (seven years ago)
It’s “all hat and no cattle” u morans
Makes a lot more semantic sense that way dunnit.All cattle and no hat means things would be too real or sumthin surely?Or people might be about to get sunburn
― Stevolende, Sunday, 17 June 2018 14:22 (seven years ago)
http://www.popculturediedin2009.com/post/174807017021/madtv-predicted-a-trump-north-korea-summit-in-2005
― maura, Sunday, 17 June 2018 14:46 (seven years ago)
So the backwards phrase was actually Schumer not Trump? Could see T spoonerising it . since i thought he made a habit of things like that.Is Schumer also much of a wordmangler.Seems to have made some odd decisions for an opposition spokesman recently anyway.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 17 June 2018 15:24 (seven years ago)
never thought i'd say it but fuck man i miss harry reid
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 17 June 2018 15:26 (seven years ago)
schumer will do that to you. when reid indicated that he was the heir apparent it was such a deflating moment, in the wake of the election
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 17 June 2018 15:45 (seven years ago)
Reid's only talent was for fighting, offensive or defense it didn't matter to him. That's why he's missed.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 June 2018 15:47 (seven years ago)
Well, not only his only talent: He runs the Nevada Dem machine, which accounts for its turning blue.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 June 2018 15:48 (seven years ago)
My hometown in Michigan (heavy GOP territory) was devastated by flash floods overnight, rly trying to hold off making trump/bootstrap/FEMA etc jokes today.
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Sunday, 17 June 2018 16:35 (seven years ago)
Moderate asshole Susan Collins:
Wow. This is the private letter @SenatorCollins is sending to her constituents rationalizing Trump's policy of separating children from their families. #mepolitics pic.twitter.com/WmY5ZQYxUQ— Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) June 16, 2018
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 June 2018 16:45 (seven years ago)
trying to hold off making trump/bootstrap/FEMA etc jokes today.
you're a better person than i
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 17 June 2018 16:48 (seven years ago)
the USA is creepy as fuck
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 17 June 2018 16:48 (seven years ago)
If this is just about to blow up in Sessions face because he's the most vocal supporter and instigator of it , will he take anything else with him when he goes.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 17 June 2018 18:03 (seven years ago)
Todd noted the headline came from an Washington Post article that included an unnamed White House official who said “the thinking in the building is to force people to the table.”Conway said she wanted “that person to say that to my face.”But, over and over, she tied Trump’s separation policy to congressional negotiations.“I would tell everybody, this week, when the President goes to Congress at 5:30 on Tuesday, get together,” Conway said at one point, before an astonishing attempt to blame Democrats for not bringing the issue up during a televised meeting between Trump and members of Congress in January, three months before the new policy was announced.“One hour! Did this issue come up?” she asked. “The Democrats only want to talk about DACA.”“Kids weren’t being separated from their parents then!” Todd said. “This policy [was] implemented in April!”Conway was unfazed: “What they should have said is, look, we had a surge over the border in 2014, Mr. President, under President Obama, and it shocked everyone, and we simply didn’t have the capacity. We want to avoid that in the future and work with you.”
Conway said she wanted “that person to say that to my face.”
But, over and over, she tied Trump’s separation policy to congressional negotiations.
“I would tell everybody, this week, when the President goes to Congress at 5:30 on Tuesday, get together,” Conway said at one point, before an astonishing attempt to blame Democrats for not bringing the issue up during a televised meeting between Trump and members of Congress in January, three months before the new policy was announced.
“One hour! Did this issue come up?” she asked. “The Democrats only want to talk about DACA.”
“Kids weren’t being separated from their parents then!” Todd said. “This policy [was] implemented in April!”
Conway was unfazed: “What they should have said is, look, we had a surge over the border in 2014, Mr. President, under President Obama, and it shocked everyone, and we simply didn’t have the capacity. We want to avoid that in the future and work with you.”
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 17 June 2018 18:04 (seven years ago)
I'm leaving the ICE Detention facility in Elizabeth, NJ after having met with 5 men, fathers, who came here seeking asylum and instead were separated from their families. This is what they shared with me: pic.twitter.com/9JcCBCPBMO— Carolyn B. Maloney (@RepMaloney) June 17, 2018
I pass this place every time I take the train into NYC.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 17 June 2018 18:59 (seven years ago)
if Obama had done what Trump did re Kim (not SAID what he did), Schumer wd be over the moon I suspect
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 June 2018 00:24 (seven years ago)
I suspect that the Christian identity/patriarchy cultists (as described here) have zero issue with the current state of things on the border..https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/a21345667/stay-at-home-daughters-christian-patriarchy/
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 18 June 2018 06:36 (seven years ago)
Children are being used by some of the worst criminals on earth as a means to enter our country. Has anyone been looking at the Crime taking place south of the border. It is historic, with some countries the most dangerous places in the world. Not going to happen in the U.S.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 18, 2018
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 June 2018 13:54 (seven years ago)
go back to wherever you were, melania
But Melania Trump weighed in, saying she “hates to see children separated from their families and hopes both sides of the aisle can finally come together.” Mrs. Trump “believes we need to be a country that follows all laws, but also a country that governs with a heart,” the first lady’s office said in a statement.By laying responsibility for the situation on “both sides,” Mrs. Trump effectively echoed her husband’s assertion that it was the result of a law written by Democrats. In fact, the administration announced a “zero tolerance” approach this spring, leading to the separations.
By laying responsibility for the situation on “both sides,” Mrs. Trump effectively echoed her husband’s assertion that it was the result of a law written by Democrats. In fact, the administration announced a “zero tolerance” approach this spring, leading to the separations.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 18 June 2018 14:01 (seven years ago)
she should just say "be best" and nothing else. be best
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 18 June 2018 14:02 (seven years ago)
It is the Democrats fault for being weak and ineffective with Boarder Security and Crime. Tell them to start thinking about the people devastated by Crime coming from illegal immigration. Change the laws!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 18, 2018
― jmm, Monday, 18 June 2018 14:03 (seven years ago)
wait we're being boarded now?
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 18 June 2018 14:04 (seven years ago)
saw someone on Twitter remark that Trump's at the "I don't want to hit the kids, but when you don't listen to what I say you make me hit the kids" stage of his presidency
― frogbs, Monday, 18 June 2018 14:05 (seven years ago)
this has to be one of the most plainly shameful episodes in the history of this country. this is happening in real time, in broad daylight, we see it as it's happening rather than learning about it in retrospect.
this century is going to be full of immigration and migrant crises, thanks in part to the only major political party on earth who denies climate science. the early returns on the way the US will handle this are gutwrenching.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 18 June 2018 14:13 (seven years ago)
Is Crime going to be a proper noun now? It sounds very dystopian.
"you have been found guilty of Crime"
― jmm, Monday, 18 June 2018 14:16 (seven years ago)
the Hives invented Crime as noun i think
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 18 June 2018 14:19 (seven years ago)
I saw reference to how people acted during the Holocaust and a few other actual witch hunts and how you'd know how you'd react by your response to this current situation.It is going to be on record that a first world country tried to get away with this.Hopefully somebody is going to go down for it and rapidly. Outcry is happening across the globe.
If Sessions is the main person who is actively advocating this and not trying to say that it has to be obeyed because it is the law, is he likely to be crucified for it. & if he does is everything remotely positive that is happening because he has not been removed from the position as AG already safeguarded?
― Stevolende, Monday, 18 June 2018 14:21 (seven years ago)
'The Hives - Invents Crime as a Proper Noun' Track 16 on Veni Vidi Vicius.
― Frederik B, Monday, 18 June 2018 14:24 (seven years ago)
this is so disgusting. i hate this all so much!
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 18 June 2018 14:26 (seven years ago)
sessions is one of many people advocating this. john kelly, the chief of staff, is a strong advocate for this policy. and there are many more people who support the policy by not giving a shit about it and continually voting for the cowards who won't lift a finger against our petulant child-president. my parents are these people. every morning i read the news and it fills me with rage and shame that i'm related to people who defend them. i can't believe that i read through Eichmann in Jerusalem back in lol college without realizing that my parents were Eichmann, or at least they would be if given the chance. the banality of evil is real. i wish i could rearrange my dna and become a plant.
sessions won't be crucified for anything, and if he is, he'll be the last to know about it. he'll be shielded inside a maze of lies until he leaves this wretched earth. they are all living in an alternate state of reality which they've constructed together. they have so much money that the consequences of their actions hardly matter. even purely evil people like scott pruitt are jealous, because he doesn't have the money to fully protect himself within their maze - he's too close to the common people for comfort, it's agonizing for him. trump's rage against those who attack him is based less on the substance of their complaints and more that someone dares to threaten their alternate world. meanwhile the rest of us can only hope that some mechanical claw of the law, or what's left of it, can hover over their bullshit island and pull him out by the neck so we can all have a momentary glimpse of something real, no matter how ugly it gets.
also fuck the hives
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 18 June 2018 14:49 (seven years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/ZQmJ1wF.png
― frogbs, Monday, 18 June 2018 14:49 (seven years ago)
In "lol nothing matters" news, let's contemplate the way the administration says all of the following things:
- It's a horrible thing that is Democrats' fault- It's an entirely defensible deterrent, and perfectly normal law enforcement- That's not actually happening, you're wrong because Fake News- But if it WERE happening, it would be okay because if THEY didn't break the law it wouldn't be happening- But it's still Obama's and Hillary's fault because reasons
...without needing to address (or even pretend there is a need to address) the contradictions and hypocrisy.
If it were not being used in the service of unmitigated evil I might say the brazen DGAFness had a sort of majesty.
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 18 June 2018 15:01 (seven years ago)
not to mention the whole "they're not cages"/"well they're sort of cages, but we don't treat them like animals"/"it really hurts our feelings when you call them cages" thing
― frogbs, Monday, 18 June 2018 15:06 (seven years ago)
xpost yeah, this whole administration is quintessential domestic abuser "Look what you made me do."
― Yerac, Monday, 18 June 2018 15:07 (seven years ago)
The people of Germany are turning against their leadership as migration is rocking the already tenuous Berlin coalition. Crime in Germany is way up. Big mistake made all over Europe in allowing millions of people in who have so strongly and violently changed their culture!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 18, 2018
he's really close to just tweeting out the 14 words isn't he
― frogbs, Monday, 18 June 2018 15:07 (seven years ago)
xpost in an earlier rehearsal for this episode:
- global warming is not real- in fact, global cooling might be the real problem- if global warming is real, humans aren't the driver of it- there is no consensus on global warming- this is consensus on global warming, but it’s a conspiratorial consensus. scientists across the world are part of a conspiracy. the entire world except for the republican party is in on this conspiracy.- global warming is actually a good thing, for agriculture- if global warming is real and humans are the driver of it and it's a bad thing, there's nothing we can do about it at this point
at some point in the near future i expect they'll add "liberals caused global warming" to the list
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 18 June 2018 15:14 (seven years ago)
Yerac OTM. I'm not saying these guys are smart - merely that the playbook has the brutal effectiveness of "Stop hitting yourself! Why are you hitting yourself?" going for it.
It's like "the news is fake but the leaks are real." The brazenness and sloppiness are features, not bugs.
Say enough vague, confusing, but nevertheless rousing shit and you can address all your key audiences simultaneously, while not saying anything specific enough to fix your position in time or space.
At the same time, be sure to undermine the legitimacy of anyone who questions the content or the conduct of your anticommunicative communications strategy.
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 18 June 2018 15:14 (seven years ago)
kirstjen neilsen is john kelly in a wig, right?
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 18 June 2018 15:15 (seven years ago)
Ye Mad Puffin OTM. I tuned in to CSPAN for the first time in ages this morning, and I heard Republican-line callers argue all five of those things in some form or another. So I guess the contradictory statements the administration is issuing are "successful," in that their base have no problem internalizing and regurgitating all of them.
― even in your onion (Dan Peterson), Monday, 18 June 2018 15:17 (seven years ago)
Okay if you're still on team "but what can I do?"* Here's plugs for:
Legal Aid Justice Center https://www.justice4all.org/
Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services https://actionnetwork.org/campaigns/endfamilyseparation
* = not that I think a lot of people ITT are on the fence, just sayin
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 18 June 2018 15:21 (seven years ago)
saw a quick poll on the child concentration camp issue - something like 46% of republicans support, 14% dems support, 24% independents support
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 18 June 2018 15:22 (seven years ago)
y'know I always wondered "how could so many people have just rolled with genocide like that" during the Third Reich but I never thought I'd get the answer in my early 30s
― frogbs, Monday, 18 June 2018 15:25 (seven years ago)
So Steve Bannon is President after all.
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Monday, 18 June 2018 15:26 (seven years ago)
White children being murdered in US schools is acceptable. Of course brown children in cages will be acceptable.
― Yerac, Monday, 18 June 2018 15:27 (seven years ago)
One sees a lot of "end this horrible practice" without a lot of "do this instead" so far. I hope we can get to a good solid "do this instead" that doesn't sound too much like "lol what even is a boarder, why have them?" (which feeds a useful right-wing caricature of the left).
What are the countervailing lines? 1. Seeking asylum is not illegal, and even if you're skeptical about an individual asylum claim this is the wrong thing to do in response. 2. Even the illegal things about border crossings are misdemeanors, for which jail and resulting family separation are vanishingly rare. 3. All migrants are entitled to legal representation and due process in determining their status. 4. ?
Is the suggested alternative, at this point, treating every asylum claim as valid on its face? Or is it simply giving every entrant a legal avenue in which to argue for asylum (while denying many/most asylum claims in probably arbitrary ways)?
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 18 June 2018 15:52 (seven years ago)
Crime in Germany is way up.
It's at its lowest since 1992. Cage this Nazi prick.
― nashwan, Monday, 18 June 2018 15:53 (seven years ago)
Thx for links YMP
Nihilism is not helpful, the rest of you
― Οὖτις, Monday, 18 June 2018 15:56 (seven years ago)
…(xxp) and, further, foregoing detention altogether (allowing asylum-seekers to remain with friends or family while seeking resolution of their asylum claim)? Or allowing family units to be detained together (gah, that's only slightly less evil than family separation)?
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 18 June 2018 15:57 (seven years ago)
While it does not excuse separating kids from their parents, which is purely punitive, I did learn, assuming this is correct, that these are not legit (as in legally) asylum-seekers, per say. In order to seek asylum you can't pass through multiple countries to a destination of your choice, I think it legally only applies to the bordering country. So if you go from Honduras through Mexico to America and then claim asylum, that doesn't fly legally. Similarly, you supposedly need to demonstrate the threat of personal harm or persecution, you can't leave a place just because it is run poorly or is poor or has a high murder rate or is otherwise unsafe or chaotic. The (phony?) argument I encountered this morning brought up the disparity between, for example, the murder rate in America and Germany. Just because the murder rate is 8 times higher here than in Germany, it doesn't mean we have a right to seek asylum in Germany. Nor would they humor it. Though obviously they have their own refugee issue.Anyway, this is all moot, because if the government gave a shit they can change all this pretty quickly. Though yeah, what they would change it to is a different story.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 June 2018 16:00 (seven years ago)
The bottom line I guess is that these are not all or even mostly asylum-seekers, these are largely refugees, and correct me if I'm wrong there's really no standard way to deal with refugees. How many do you let in? How far away can they come from? I don't think there's an answer, but the key is to at least treat them humanely until they figure it out.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 June 2018 16:08 (seven years ago)
That is incorrect. You don’t have to apply in the first safe country.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 18 June 2018 16:17 (seven years ago)
I thought I wwas hearing that the Trump regime had overturned a process by which you could apply for asylum from the country of origin that had been established during Obama's incumbency. This in turn lead to people having to come to the US border to apply for asylum they could have done more remotely previously.
― Stevolende, Monday, 18 June 2018 16:30 (seven years ago)
I don't pretend to have a solution in mind; I just think the #Resistance ought to settle on a recommended alternative policy even if only as a strategic move.
Also, improving the conditions of detention (walls instead of chain-link; Nintendo vs. foosball) doesn't help much from a moral point of view. It's still a fucking jail.
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 18 June 2018 16:32 (seven years ago)
So asylum is a free for all? That is, you can pick where you want to claim asylum? I mean, obviously you can try for asylum anywhere at any time, but I don't know what the legal standard is.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 June 2018 16:37 (seven years ago)
The (phony?) argument I encountered this morning brought up the disparity between, for example, the murder rate in America and Germany. Just because the murder rate is 8 times higher here than in Germany, it doesn't mean we have a right to seek asylum in Germany.
There goes my plan to fly to Sweden and say "take me in, I'm afraid of getting shot at Wendy's, or of dying because my health insurance runs out."
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 18 June 2018 16:40 (seven years ago)
I wish!
"Take me in, Sweden, my country is aggressively stupid stupid and needlessly violent and definitely emotionally distressing! Can I bring my Xbox?"
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 June 2018 16:44 (seven years ago)
It’s complicated and subject to change depending on policy and local conventions. There is nothing in the 1951 UN convention that say you have to claim refugee status in the first country you get to. It’s a broadly-applied principle that you should, though, France, for example, has an agreement that a refugee who enters Europe via Greece can be deported to Greece. The US could agree with Mexico that any Hondurans applying could be deported back to Mexico - but this would be subject to challenge as Mexico is notorious for not reviewing cases properly. An agreement is, however, in place with Canada to do this, iirc.
The other question is whether Central Americans are able to claim asylum status in the first place if they’re not being persecuted by the government, and the answer is probably, generally no, but that’s a complicated thing itself.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 18 June 2018 16:57 (seven years ago)
I know it goes up and down but trump is currently at his highest approval since inauguration (45%) =|
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 18 June 2018 17:39 (seven years ago)
OTOH . . .
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Df_Rfb4W4AYUP1Y.jpg:large
― Eliza D., Monday, 18 June 2018 17:42 (seven years ago)
According to Josh's presumed standard, refugees must always flee from their home country by land routes, or if they fly away by airline, then they must simulate fleeing on land by flying only into a neighboring country? Those who find themselves in a distant country with non-contiguous borders to their home country when, let's say, a military coup occurs at home, must find their way back to a neighboring country before seeking asylum? This makes no sense at all to me.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 18 June 2018 17:43 (seven years ago)
just realized i now officially belong to an age cohort that will almost always be noticeably more wrong about things than the 18-34 demographic
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 18 June 2018 17:48 (seven years ago)
ice agent with probable white supremacist ink, what's on yr ipod
Learn more about HERO Child-Rescue Corps, a program for wounded, injured & ill Special Ops Forces to receive training in high-tech computer forensics & law enforcement skills, to assist federal agents in the fight against online child sexual exploitation https://t.co/g0DpFeb3fE pic.twitter.com/b7qTIbnuRR— ICE (@ICEgov) May 25, 2018
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 June 2018 17:56 (seven years ago)
Rich Lowry says y'all are being too strident.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 June 2018 18:01 (seven years ago)
I think a lot about this study, a finding of which was that the most popular/consensus opinion on immigration by some margin was the most far-right opinion offered: "the immediate roundup and deportation of all undocumented immigrants and an outright moratorium on all immigration until the border is proven secure"
http://stanford.edu/~dbroock/published%20paper%20PDFs/broockman%20approaches%20to%20studying%20representation.pdf
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 18 June 2018 18:02 (seven years ago)
(and by "I think a lot" I mean "it terrifies me")
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 18 June 2018 18:03 (seven years ago)
Let's stick the NRO goons in a cage for a week or two. Sustenance optional.
― Simon H., Monday, 18 June 2018 18:03 (seven years ago)
‘proven secure’ is a frighteningly vague concept
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 June 2018 18:19 (seven years ago)
We elected a grifter reality TV star president. Nothing about this country is ever gonna be "secure."
― even in your onion (Dan Peterson), Monday, 18 June 2018 18:25 (seven years ago)
This quote from New York magazine's interview with Ben Rhodes is very, very apt:
What I’ve heard from a number of foreign governments since Trump came to office, including pretty senior people is that, you don’t understand. It’s not just that Trump’s president, it’s that your country elected Trump. And essentially that’s why Trump’s presidency, I think, is more destructive than any one event that will take place under Trump. I think for a lot of Americans, we like to separate ourselves from Trump and say, “This is an aberration.” I think the rest of the world is thinking, “How did this person get elected?” Just him losing the election in 2020 won’t fully correct that something that is broken. America was a country where that wasn’t supposed to happen. To have basically an authoritarian demagogue get elected president.So I don’t think it’s fully recoverable. The policies are recoverable, right? We can care about climate change again. We can work with our allies again. We can advocate for human rights again, and you can go down the list. But the second troubling thing I’ve heard is that, like, Trump is totally recognizable because yeah, we’ve all had a corrupt leader — and I’ve heard this in Southeast Asia and Latin America — the rich liar with the son-in-law is usually who runs the country....But that makes America just like everybody else. And that’s what China’s argument is, right? I think the biggest shift is going to be be toward America just being another big, powerful country. Maybe even the most powerful country — but something will have been lost. I also think that four years is survivable, and eight years is not, in that the change that you can make take root in eight years is exponentially greater than four. So I think it’s hard to overstate the importance of the next midterm and presidential-election cycles to how the story ends.
So I don’t think it’s fully recoverable. The policies are recoverable, right? We can care about climate change again. We can work with our allies again. We can advocate for human rights again, and you can go down the list. But the second troubling thing I’ve heard is that, like, Trump is totally recognizable because yeah, we’ve all had a corrupt leader — and I’ve heard this in Southeast Asia and Latin America — the rich liar with the son-in-law is usually who runs the country.
...
But that makes America just like everybody else. And that’s what China’s argument is, right? I think the biggest shift is going to be be toward America just being another big, powerful country. Maybe even the most powerful country — but something will have been lost. I also think that four years is survivable, and eight years is not, in that the change that you can make take root in eight years is exponentially greater than four. So I think it’s hard to overstate the importance of the next midterm and presidential-election cycles to how the story ends.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 18 June 2018 18:29 (seven years ago)
No surprise here: Commerce secretary Wilbur Ross didn't divest from his firm. He's in business with companies co-owned by the Chinese government, linked to Vladimir Putin’s inner circle, and a Cyprus bank caught up in the Robert Mueller investigation." https://t.co/HAgO5RB3Eg— Lily Herman (@lkherman) June 18, 2018
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Monday, 18 June 2018 18:35 (seven years ago)
since it's bring brought up...what do y'all think we should do with people entering illegally?
― frogbs, Monday, 18 June 2018 18:38 (seven years ago)
According to Josh's presumed standard, refugees must always flee from their home country by land routes, or if they fly away by airline, then they must simulate fleeing on land by flying only into a neighboring country?
No, I just though it had to be relatively direct. That is, you could fly from Syria or Russia or China direct to the US to claim asylum, but you couldn't fly from Syria to, say, Canada and then cross over to try and claim asylum in the US. Right? But it's all pretty complicated and inconsistent, afaict.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 June 2018 18:43 (seven years ago)
xpost I think it's a tougher question than many angry people think!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 June 2018 18:44 (seven years ago)
Forcibly relocate them...to one of the shitty, empty white-homeland states like Idaho or Nebraska. New York and L.A. and Chicago have enough people already. Let's make Wyoming's population a little more dense. Make 'em earn their two senators.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 18 June 2018 18:45 (seven years ago)
... Or just let them in, in the vast majority of cases.
― Simon H., Monday, 18 June 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
In theory I'm cool with that, but ... How many? What benefits will they get? Any requirements? Do they become citizens immediately? Etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 June 2018 18:52 (seven years ago)
― frogbs, 18. juni 2018 20:38 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think it's a tougher question than many angry people think!
― Josh in Chicago, 18. juni 2018 20:44 (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I know I'm a foreigner so of course don't understand anything about the US, but why is it more difficult for you than for the rest of the world? They are asylum seekers, build refugee camps, have the families live there, send them home when their claim is rejected.
― Frederik B, Monday, 18 June 2018 18:52 (seven years ago)
Do they become citizens immediately? Etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, June 18, 2018 2:52 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah I would go for that so when ppls come back to try and take their citizenship away they have standing in US courts
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 18 June 2018 18:55 (seven years ago)
we like to separate ourselves from Trump and say, “This is an aberration.” I think the rest of the world is thinking, “How did this person get elected?”
It is not possible to draw a straight line from any prior point in US history directly to the election of Donald J. Trump. We got here by the crookedest of paths. He's what we vomited up after ingesting several decades worth of political poison and economic corruption. Let us hope he was a sufficiently emetic dose to cleanse the system, if not back to 'health', at least back to a semblance of functionality.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 18 June 2018 18:56 (seven years ago)
MIchael Avenatti has just advertised that he's entering the fight against family separation I see.Hope he isn't just about to team up with the Mooch in other areas though.
― Stevolende, Monday, 18 June 2018 18:57 (seven years ago)
People seeking asylum is one thing, I'm talking more about people who cross over in search of a country richer than their own or whatever. Obviously theres got to be some process here.
― frogbs, Monday, 18 June 2018 18:57 (seven years ago)
Trump is so obviously a feature of America, not a bug. Come on. Xps
― Simon H., Monday, 18 June 2018 18:57 (seven years ago)
xpost And some limits, right? The alternative is open borders.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 June 2018 18:58 (seven years ago)
― valorous wokelord (silby), Monday, 18 June 2018 18:59 (seven years ago)
All civilized people should aspire to ending borders tbh
― Simon H., Monday, 18 June 2018 19:01 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZyBSQC1RZI
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 June 2018 19:02 (seven years ago)
imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3eQv9YC6NI
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 18 June 2018 19:03 (seven years ago)
Many xpost recommendation for They Thought They Were Free:http://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 18 June 2018 19:05 (seven years ago)
for what it's worth "open borders; unlimited immigration" was also an option on the study I linked, but garnered the lowest support, also by a huge margin
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 18 June 2018 19:09 (seven years ago)
Since some of the population of the US is so concerned with lower birthrates, let everyone in who wants to fill out the form.
― Yerac, Monday, 18 June 2018 19:09 (seven years ago)
older ILX thread/poll: open or national borders?
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 18 June 2018 19:15 (seven years ago)
What I’ve heard from a number of foreign governments since Trump came to office, including pretty senior people is that, you don’t understand. It’s not just that Trump’s president, it’s that your country elected Trump. And essentially that’s why Trump’s presidency, I think, is more destructive than any one event that will take place under Trump. I think for a lot of Americans, we like to separate ourselves from Trump and say, “This is an aberration.” I think the rest of the world is thinking, “How did this person get elected?” Just him losing the election in 2020 won’t fully correct that something that is broken. America was a country where that wasn’t supposed to happen. To have basically an authoritarian demagogue get elected president.
Wtf, imotherfucker, we re-elected Nixon, Reagan, and Dubya. How much disillusionment do you need?
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 18 June 2018 19:17 (seven years ago)
Pictures of President Trump and Kim Jong Un in the West Wing of the White House. A few weeks ago, these frames surrounded pics of Trump with Emmanuel Macron, president of France, one of America’s closest allies. pic.twitter.com/RZja99SDnJ— Michael C. Bender (@MichaelCBender) June 18, 2018
― frogbs, Monday, 18 June 2018 19:26 (seven years ago)
Tough not to support Macron erasure tbh
― Simon H., Monday, 18 June 2018 19:35 (seven years ago)
New: ProPublica has obtained audio from inside a U.S. Customs and Border Protection facility, in which children can be heard wailing. Border Patrol agent jokes, “We have an orchestra here.” https://t.co/pkmD8DKYmo— ProPublica (@ProPublica) June 18, 2018
― Eliza D., Monday, 18 June 2018 19:54 (seven years ago)
i don't know if i can bear to listen to that, i'm angry enough
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 18 June 2018 19:59 (seven years ago)
okay i am listening to this and am just sick to my stomach
Wish that was a Current 93 recording, but sadly it's not.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 June 2018 20:17 (seven years ago)
motherfuckers!
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 18 June 2018 20:21 (seven years ago)
so when are people marching ? this is enough of this shit
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 18 June 2018 20:22 (seven years ago)
There's this
Look for an important announcement TONIGHT on @allinwithchris re *major protest against family separation* in DC & nationwide. @RepJayapal, one of our utmost champions, will share plans. All hands on deck. @chrislhayes @MoveOn @domesticworkers @waltshaub #FamiliesBelongTogether— Anna Galland (@annagalland) June 18, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 June 2018 20:27 (seven years ago)
good, thx Ned
― sleeve, Monday, 18 June 2018 20:28 (seven years ago)
I hate to break the news but this is far from novel.
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Monday, 18 June 2018 20:33 (seven years ago)
Certainly with Dubya, maybe not so much with Reagan but everybody was still laughing up their sleeve about him.
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Monday, 18 June 2018 20:34 (seven years ago)
Supposedly Sanders and Nielsen will be giving a joint presser in about half an hour.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 June 2018 20:35 (seven years ago)
yes! thanks .i just feel like all the fuckery this administration has reveled in is really about to come to a head here.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 18 June 2018 20:40 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoncXfYBAVI
TRUMP!!
― frogbs, Monday, 18 June 2018 20:41 (seven years ago)
that didn't take long (unsurprisingly)
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/texas-deputy-sexually-assaulted-undocumented-immigrant-s-child-sheriff-says-n884176
― Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Monday, 18 June 2018 20:42 (seven years ago)
yeah sadly that won't be the last i suspect
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 18 June 2018 20:48 (seven years ago)
fuck these motherfuckers straight to hell
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 18 June 2018 20:49 (seven years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=40&v=6QFPdGiD8EE
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 18 June 2018 20:51 (seven years ago)
oops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QFPdGiD8EE
well at least that was a solid lol
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 18 June 2018 20:56 (seven years ago)
Ah, cowards
A White House official tells @jeffzeleny that @PressSec didn't want to do the briefing today amid questions on child separation policy, so @SecNielsen is being flown in from New Orleans to take questions.— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) June 18, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 June 2018 20:56 (seven years ago)
agree
Members of ICE should be outed and ostracized. Hassled at restaurants, malls, when they pick their kids up from school, etc. You should not be able to be a part of the machine separating children from their families and clock out for a peaceful evening.— mike cernovich is a rapist (@ArielleSwernoff) June 18, 2018
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:01 (seven years ago)
I'm waiting for whoever that really is to pull off the mask. Could it be Franken? I mean, "Dick Painter" is the kind of character name he'd come up with, and the voice is hilarious.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:01 (seven years ago)
dude has a neurological disorder that causes him to speak that way
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:04 (seven years ago)
Right, been wondering what that was looks like a stroke victim on some of the tv appearances I've seen.
― Stevolende, Monday, 18 June 2018 21:10 (seven years ago)
god this is heartbreaking and infuriating. fuck all of these people, rot in fucking hell. stephen miller at the least needs to visit The Hague ASAP.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:12 (seven years ago)
Homeland Security sec on teevee now; they ain't backing down.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:21 (seven years ago)
this press conference is being delivered like monotone propaganda. Which, I mean, it is.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 June 2018 21:21 (seven years ago)
Part of the reason that Trump's approval numbers have been slightly better in 2018 than 2017 is that he is completely untethered from big GOP domestic legislative projects.— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 18, 2018
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:24 (seven years ago)
"Homeland Security" always sounded Orwellian, but now...jesus
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:25 (seven years ago)
Wait, they're claiming 10,000 kids were sent with strangers?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 June 2018 21:28 (seven years ago)
This woman is such an asshole.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 June 2018 21:31 (seven years ago)
assholes are useful
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:32 (seven years ago)
this woman is scum
Seriously.
― jmm, Monday, 18 June 2018 21:32 (seven years ago)
Sanders turns to Newsmax reporter for lifeline under relentless Qs over immigration policies toward children. He challenges POTUS' truthfulness over untrue claims there's been a spike of violent crime in Germany under Merkel.— David Folkenflik (@davidfolkenflik) June 18, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 June 2018 21:59 (seven years ago)
woah
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Monday, 18 June 2018 22:01 (seven years ago)
btw Joe Manchin joined every other Senate Democrat:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/06/18/all-senate-democrats-now-support-bill-would-prohibit-border-separations/710803002/
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 June 2018 22:08 (seven years ago)
I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but it's amazing how the Trump administration keeps finding the absolute worst women to appoint to things.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 June 2018 22:09 (seven years ago)
Well well
CRUZ introduces “emergency legislation” to keep families together at the border and provide funding for new immigration judges to expedite court proceedings for asylum cases. Summary from his office: pic.twitter.com/gL5TuLtndi— Andrew Desiderio (@desiderioDC) June 18, 2018
Cornyn and Cruz both speak up within just a couple hours of each other. Wonder how this is polling in Texas https://t.co/XvytP4Ynia— Lachlan Markay (@lachlan) June 18, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 June 2018 22:12 (seven years ago)
There will probably be a stupid “Can you believe Cruz has done more on this than the Dems?” take from one of the large follower left accounts that gets massive retweets soon.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 18 June 2018 22:18 (seven years ago)
Leaked State Department memo advised Trump administration to push for “Islamic reformation” https://t.co/NKw93C5toB by @mehdirhasan @ryangrim pic.twitter.com/hlQsnfMGkf— Charlotte Greensit (@cgreensit) June 18, 2018
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Monday, 18 June 2018 22:21 (seven years ago)
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, June 18, 2018 6:09 PM (twelve minutes ago)
lots of awful republican women out there. i've arranged my social circles for maximum avoidance of them, both on purpose and by accident.
― maura, Monday, 18 June 2018 22:23 (seven years ago)
Sorry to just post a Twitter link but
Appealing to the humanity and empathy of people who have repeatedly demonstrated they have none does not feel like a winning strategy.— dan sinker (@dansinker) June 18, 2018
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 18 June 2018 22:23 (seven years ago)
Meanwhile this c*nt is making you all great again by proposing a Space Force. Classic ludicrous strongman dictator vanity. Rapidly losing faith that the US will rebound from this apotheosis of self-regard and the embrace of hard right propaganda.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/06/18/trump-says-hes-directing-pentagon-to-create-a-new-space-force/?utm_term=.5d250ac10729
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 18 June 2018 22:27 (seven years ago)
Q: are the children being used as pawns for a wall?DHS Secretary Nielsen: the children are not being used as a pawn. we are trying to protect the children, which is why i'm asking congress to act
wait...you're asking congress to act...to prevent your own agency from doing unethical things to children?
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 18 June 2018 22:30 (seven years ago)
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/18/republicans-splitting-families-midterms-border-652369
Republicans want to talk about tax cuts. Instead they’re talking about kids in cages.Rather than touting lower taxes and a steady job market, House and Senate Republicans are being forced to answer for President Donald Trump’s contentious immigration policies — whether it’s separating migrant kids from their parents, removing DACA protections or building a border wall. And that’s likely bad news heading into November.
Rather than touting lower taxes and a steady job market, House and Senate Republicans are being forced to answer for President Donald Trump’s contentious immigration policies — whether it’s separating migrant kids from their parents, removing DACA protections or building a border wall. And that’s likely bad news heading into November.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 18 June 2018 22:50 (seven years ago)
This is was my one hope when Trump got elected, that he would show his ass stupidly enough for citizens to run to the voting booth and mitigate the damage for the next 2 years.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 18 June 2018 22:54 (seven years ago)
A terrifying story:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/06/18/florida-senior-citizens-vote-election-2018-218758
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 June 2018 23:03 (seven years ago)
I mean it is but...not that surprising?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 June 2018 23:04 (seven years ago)
Not to me because I live among them. For the rest of you, however.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 June 2018 23:15 (seven years ago)
Austin, Houston, and San Antonio are ringed with filth like that.
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 18 June 2018 23:25 (seven years ago)
Aileen Milton, 67, isn’t worried about what Republicans will do to Medicare and Social Security, in part, because their reforms won’t affect her generation. “They are kicking the can down the road,” says Milton. “It’s a young-person problem.”
― earlnash, Monday, 18 June 2018 23:31 (seven years ago)
^^^Sounds about white.
― Yerac, Monday, 18 June 2018 23:33 (seven years ago)
Sounds like the death panels might have been a good idea.
― earlnash, Monday, 18 June 2018 23:35 (seven years ago)
Let's see, thousands of lily white, economically secure, medicare-supported retirees, living in a protected bubble of privilege, including dozens of golf courses groomed daily by brown-skinned people, who reliably vote republican? I am shocked by these revelations! (no) I'd further bet that the foundations of many of those economic privileges and retired prosperity were laid down in the New Deal, Fair Deal, and Great Society programs.
The white middle class loved Reagan because he assured them that their glowing false memories of traditional white virtue, as implanted by Hollywood movies and 50s television, were who they really were. Now they fervently believe in a make-believe past and want to kill anyone who wants the same opportunities they got.
Fuck 'em.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 18 June 2018 23:37 (seven years ago)
For folks looking for a useful initiative to help out / donate to, this seems good (s/o to the Chapo subreddit)
RAICES is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit agency that promotes justice by providing free and low-cost legal services to underserved immigrant children, families, and refugees in Texas. In 2017, RAICES staff closed 51,000 cases at no cost to the client. Our advocacy and commitment to change are driven by the clients and families we serve every day as our attorneys and legal assistants provide legal advocacy and representation in an immigration system that breaks apart families and leaves millions without pathways to legal status.If you'd like to help, volunteering or donating to their fund would make a hell of a difference. A lot of immigrants do not receive legal counsel and end up unrepresented during mass immigrant trials.
If you'd like to help, volunteering or donating to their fund would make a hell of a difference. A lot of immigrants do not receive legal counsel and end up unrepresented during mass immigrant trials.
More info + donate here:
https://www.raicestexas.org/
― Simon H., Monday, 18 June 2018 23:44 (seven years ago)
trump has already unilaterally abrogated an international nuclear agreement, paris agreement, now he going for an actual treaty (in fucking space). but its always been like this, right?Also i figure trumps angle is for the billionaires as usual, not military?“The financiers and entrepreneurs behind these operations want assurances that regulations are in place that will not stifle the nascent (space) industry. “What the space industry wants is regulatory certainty without regulatory burdens that are going to strangle innovation,” says Bridenstine. “That’s a delicate balancing act.””xp
― Hunt3r, Monday, 18 June 2018 23:48 (seven years ago)
http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/outer_space_treatySorry meant to put link in
― Hunt3r, Monday, 18 June 2018 23:54 (seven years ago)
We need to weaponize grandkids refusing to visit. Vote Trump and you’ll never see your great-granddaughter.
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 18 June 2018 23:56 (seven years ago)
I’ll never get how reluctant some people are to estrange themselves from family members
― valorous wokelord (silby), Monday, 18 June 2018 23:57 (seven years ago)
(joke, probably)
I no longer talk to my dad and brothers. It doesn't matter. They love Trump more.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 00:02 (seven years ago)
i'm pleasant enough to my family on the phone when i talk to them every 2-3 months, but i don't plan on visiting in person again.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 00:08 (seven years ago)
Watching Chris Hayes now...don’t think I’ve ever seen him so pissed
― frogbs, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 00:09 (seven years ago)
Appealing to the humanity and empathy of people who have repeatedly demonstrated they have none does not feel like a winning strategy.
— dan sinker (@dansinker) June 18, 2018― ... (Eazy)
"humanity and empathy" isn't an act we're putting on to win votes, motherfucker
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 00:32 (seven years ago)
The project/June 30th march announced on Hayes's show by Rep. Jayapal
https://www.familiesbelongtogether.org/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 00:33 (seven years ago)
I don't read that tweet as calling out performative empathy. He's saying appealing to the non-existent empathy of Trump and the greater GOP won't work.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 00:56 (seven years ago)
Still proud to have Jayapal as my rep, recommend everyone move to her district so you can also be proud of someone
― valorous wokelord (silby), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 01:05 (seven years ago)
the brick wall that empathy hits is the core belief of the greater GOP: "if you are breaking the law, then anything that happens to you is unavoidable and justified."
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 01:07 (seven years ago)
there seems to be one condition missing there though
― frogbs, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 01:11 (seven years ago)
Right, just to synthesize these last two posts, "if you are not white, then anything that happens to you is unavoidable and justified."
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 01:16 (seven years ago)
The importance of The law is highly conditional
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 01:17 (seven years ago)
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles)
it's not about performative empathy, it's about, if anything, performative realpolitik.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 01:25 (seven years ago)
The importance of The law is highly conditional― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 01:17 (twenty minutes ago) Permalink
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 01:17 (twenty minutes ago) Permalink
i don't know who came up with it but i've seen this formulation on twitter a few times:
the core of conservatism is that there must be in-groups that the law protects but doesn't bind and out-groups that the law binds but doesn't protect
― you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 01:43 (seven years ago)
it's a Frank Wilhoit quote.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 19 June 2018 01:46 (seven years ago)
Help me out peeps
Why does there even need to be funding for a border wall
Isn't Mexico paying for it
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:05 (seven years ago)
Soooo this is a thing.
Politico has a stunning sentence about the White House chief of staff talking about impeachment:https://t.co/WkNxeMDMYd pic.twitter.com/LOSYJOoqrH— Steven Dennis (@StevenTDennis) June 19, 2018
I really want to know how much - or if - Kelly was joking when he made this comment. Like, I'd want to hear it on tape.— Steven Dennis (@StevenTDennis) June 19, 2018
FWIW, it wasn’t a joke, according to my source, who said his attitude is let the shit hit the fan, make Corey chief of staff, instruct Cabinet secretaries to do things that are illegal — so be it.— Eliana Johnson (@elianayjohnson) June 19, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:07 (seven years ago)
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, June 18, 2018 4:56 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― valorous wokelord (silby), Monday, June 18, 2018 4:57 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark
my sister and I disowned my dad this year for a number of reasons, but chief among them was his belief that post-election he now had a license to speak as hatefully he wanted
― sleeve, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:09 (seven years ago)
*as* he wanted
― sleeve, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:10 (seven years ago)
Thread: How did we get here? In 2015, I shook President Obama’s hand, thanked him for DACA, and asked him to reverse course & close the for-profit baby jails (also known as “family detention centers”) he opened in Dilley & Karnes City, Texas. What he said shook me to my core 1/ pic.twitter.com/K5vi6S2RPj— R. Andrew Free (@ImmCivilRights) June 19, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:11 (seven years ago)
That's a great piece.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:31 (seven years ago)
It is a highly educational thread and I have no idea how immigration lawyers are supposed to find the time to teach us laypeople about how any of this shit works, or where the bad ideas come from, but they do. One of the ways smartphones and microblogging are living up to the promise, perhaps.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:39 (seven years ago)
Long Twitter threads are such a weird way to publish an essay of 2000 words or more. There should be a better vehicle for this that would reach just as many people and be quickly and easily distributed, but this trend seems to be here for the foreseeable future.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:43 (seven years ago)
Sure but that's for another thread. Point he's making is: This is a policy that has deep roots. Understanding those deep roots is important to any lasting immigration reform. If we can use Dump Trump sentiments to mobilize against this particular policy, that's great, but the rules and the way they're being executed come from previous administrations, quite specifically Obama's second term.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:49 (seven years ago)
These are the names of the contractors who are coordinating the children’s concentration camps in TX-
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16Z04gxhORlgmS5sDhnX_ryDfSF8T2a6AwZWV1PMY-H8/mobilebasic
― you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:58 (seven years ago)
On the lighter side
NEW: Rudy tells @dsamuelsohn that his call for Mueller to be suspended last week was just for show:“That’s what I’m supposed to do,” Giuliani said. “What am I supposed to say? That they should investigate him forever? Sorry, I’m not a sucker.”https://t.co/Br2mJO8hxZ— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) June 18, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 04:06 (seven years ago)
I cant help but continue to wonder if the US hasnt, for years, looked admiringly at how we've been doing things in AU when it comes to deterrent punishment.
Christ some of them have been on Naru for YEARS. Quite a few have died in the process.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 04:07 (seven years ago)
XP NARRATOR: "He was a sucker."
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 04:10 (seven years ago)
Rudy's legal talent has never been very keen compared to his ability as the emcee of his own media circus.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 04:12 (seven years ago)
Definitely has nothing to do with his political opponent leading a march and is absolutely because Ted cares about immigrant families, right? https://t.co/VJHk40Bs9S— Alex Da Toke Villain (@threetwentykbps) June 18, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 06:23 (seven years ago)
since when has what pols BELIEVE been relevant? idgaf
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 06:34 (seven years ago)
(they sure don't)
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 06:35 (seven years ago)
I cant help but continue to wonder if the US hasnt, for years, looked admiringly at how we've been doing things in AU when it comes to deterrent punishment.Christ some of them have been on Naru for YEARS. Quite a few have died in the process.
Yep - on asylum and broader immigration policy it’s pretty clear that sections of the US government have been looking at Australia, the U.K., Hungary, etc. It wouldn’t be a surprise to see them propose seizing jewellery and other valuables from people at the border to pay for their detention like Switzerland and Denmark. Policies that are considered harsh / brutal very quickly become accepted - and then, in many cases, seen as not harsh or brutal enough to be effective deterrents. If the US public can successfully push back in a way that Aus / Europe, by and large, hasn’t it’ll be a terrific achievement.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 06:36 (seven years ago)
meanwhile
lol of course it was pic.twitter.com/s4JaNrpOry— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) June 19, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 06:49 (seven years ago)
It wouldn’t be a surprise to see them propose seizing jewellery and other valuables from people at the border to pay for their detention
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 06:52 (seven years ago)
#trenchant
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 08:21 (seven years ago)
Ha...like there's gonna be a '2070'
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 10:41 (seven years ago)
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain)
yeah, we'll have adopted HE dating by then and it'll be 12070
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 11:44 (seven years ago)
dope
People in Portland have blockaded an ICE building, preventing ICE employees from going home to their families. #OccupyICEPDX https://t.co/3DqvXkJZ1W— PMbeers (@PMbeers) June 19, 2018
― Simon H., Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:00 (seven years ago)
this is good praxis
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:05 (seven years ago)
The NYT spoke to Stephen Miller on the record with audio and they spiked it because the White House “were not comfortable using the audio...when they found out his voice was going to be on a podcast they were not happy about it. So they asked us not to use it.”— Josh Sternberg (@joshsternberg) June 19, 2018
― Simon H., Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:28 (seven years ago)
this is bad praxis
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:32 (seven years ago)
praxis makes perfect
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:37 (seven years ago)
Paper of Resistance
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:40 (seven years ago)
icymi
The Huffington Post reports:
Attorney General Jeff Sessions rejected claims that the Justice Department’s new zero-tolerance immigration policy echoed Nazi Germany because concentration camps “were trying to keep Jews from leaving.” Sessions spoke with Fox News’ Laura Ingraham on Monday and defended his agency amid a growing outcry over family separations at the U.S.-Mexico border under the new DOJ policy.
“Well, it’s a real exaggeration, of course. In Nazi Germany, they were keeping the Jews from leaving the country,” Sessions said. “We need to think it through, be rational and thoughtful about it. We want to allow asylum for people who qualify for it, but people who want economic migration for their personal financial benefit, and what they think is their families’ benefit, is not a basis for a claim of asylum.”
what the FUCK
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:56 (seven years ago)
XP...or, "Tired huddled masses--Go Fuck Yourselves!"
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:57 (seven years ago)
if Rod Serling was God, Sessions would wake up in Bergen-Belsen
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:01 (seven years ago)
F U C K the New York Times, with apologies to friends who work there.
― ian, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:36 (seven years ago)
I see there is a protest at the US embassy in Dublin on Thursday. I assume that will be happening a lot around teh globe. Wonder if it will lead to protest tent cities, though not sure if that works in ballsbridge.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:42 (seven years ago)
I scraped LinkedIn for people that work for ICE: https://t.co/MJuuyMeAal— Sam Lavigne (@sam_lavigne) June 19, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:53 (seven years ago)
I'm sure Miller would love to be a politician himself and reap all the "glory" from his "ideas." It's grimly hilarious that in a profession in which Ted Cruz has found tremendous success, Miller is still too much of a loathsome, nauseating pud to ever get elected to anything.
― evol j, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:53 (seven years ago)
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius)
i'd settle for a bernie krigstein comic
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:01 (seven years ago)
Crime in Germany is up 10% plus (officials do not want to report these crimes) since migrants were accepted. Others countries are even worse. Be smart America!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2018
the immigrant crime is totally real folks
― frogbs, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:05 (seven years ago)
until he does...
― Evan, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:06 (seven years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/KaAlbiI.jpg
this is insulting to wormtongue and theoden, sorry
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:08 (seven years ago)
The president has a point. We didn't fight hard enough to keep the Drumpfs out and just look at what's happened.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:08 (seven years ago)
omigod that's perfect lol
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:12 (seven years ago)
the analogy falls apart when you remember that theoden was a once good man, capable of redemption
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:13 (seven years ago)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ann-coulter-fox-news-trump-immigrant-children-child-actors-zero-tolerance-policy-a8405631.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1529398559
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:14 (seven years ago)
Democrats are the problem. They don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country, like MS-13. They can’t win on their terrible policies, so they view them as potential voters!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2018
just tweet the 14 words Mr President
― frogbs, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:18 (seven years ago)
'infest' huh
― jmm, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:22 (seven years ago)
wow
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:27 (seven years ago)
He's close to asking everyone to leave the country for a few days so he can fumigate
― Evan, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:35 (seven years ago)
Not sure Trump is writing these Nazier ones e.g. both using 'tenuous' and spelling it right.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:42 (seven years ago)
trump 2020: not eloquent enough to be a nazi
― paul mccartney & whinge (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:47 (seven years ago)
yeah these are Miller
― frogbs, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:52 (seven years ago)
I'd expect media outlets to now be scrambling over one another now in an effort to get taped interviews of Miller in a country with a functioning fourth estate, but oh well, I guess.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 15:00 (seven years ago)
Attorney General Jeff Sessions rejected claims that the Justice Department’s new zero-tolerance immigration policy echoed Nazi Germany because concentration camps “were trying to keep Jews from leaving.” Sessions spoke with Fox News’ Laura Ingraham on Monday and defended his agency amid a growing outcry over family separations at the U.S.-Mexico border under the new DOJ policy.“Well, it’s a real exaggeration, of course. In Nazi Germany, they were keeping the Jews from leaving the country,” Sessions said. “We need to think it through, be rational and thoughtful about it. We want to allow asylum for people who qualify for it, but people who want economic migration for their personal financial benefit, and what they think is their families’ benefit, is not a basis for a claim of asylum.”― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:40 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:40 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
omitted here is the nazis tried to deport the jews before exterminating them. the US didn't do them any favors by refusing to accept them.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 15:05 (seven years ago)
BREAKING: Trump plans to withdraw from UN Human Rights Council today, per @nwadhams— Mike Dorning (@MikeDorning) June 19, 2018
cool
― frogbs, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 16:20 (seven years ago)
about that "the difference is the Nazis wouldn't let 'em leave thing"
They have detained this pregnant Honduran woman for 6 weeks while her 5 y/o son is being held in a separate detention center.She has just been asking that they go ahead and deport she and her son so they can go home and be together. They refuse.https://t.co/XYmpETDwgk pic.twitter.com/GQkNcmPj28— Shaun King (@ShaunKing) June 19, 2018
― frogbs, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 16:25 (seven years ago)
stephen miller is like the kid in high school that the jocks, nerds, band geeks, burnouts, can all agree sucks. great that he's found such a powerful position to focus on his niche interests
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 16:43 (seven years ago)
god damn i am just seething with hatred for trump and his entire administration. moreso than usual. them mouthing their hateful disingenuous talking points. all this suffering and trauma and child abuse, at their orders, and they just keep talking about how "the democrats" want "open borders" and then spouting this fascists dehumanizing shit on top of that. fucking christ i hate them.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 16:45 (seven years ago)
It's been a slow burn, but this administration finally seems to be stretching its limbs and showing us that they can actually be just as awful and destructive as we feared. If the Dems don't completely clean up in November, I might have to officially be done with this shit.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 16:48 (seven years ago)
you can't buy hemlock at the A&P.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 16:53 (seven years ago)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_W1zTZKL45w0/S8ioPay6ShI/AAAAAAAAAus/DKuXPNSmUVc/s1600/crimes.png
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 16:54 (seven years ago)
The President says Canadians come to the United States, buy shoes, scuff them up and smuggle them back to Canada.— Phil Elliott (@Philip_Elliott) June 19, 2018
― maura, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 16:56 (seven years ago)
Can't tell if that's a joke or not.Also not sure what difference in price between the 2 sides of the border would be.
Sounds like , somebody buys something, uses it and tehn takes it home with them. Which is of course a crime since all Canucks are libtards innit?
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:00 (seven years ago)
it's not a joke. it's part of a trade war rant
― maura, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:02 (seven years ago)
A proud Canadian tradition
― jmm, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:07 (seven years ago)
the use of the word "infest" (and "animals", recently) must really warm the hearts of his neo-nazi supporters. the president says that immigrants are infesting the nation and his top advisors advocate putting their kids in cages even after the rest of the world and most of his own citizens react in horror. neo-nazis don't have to read between the lines or look for little cues from trump anymore, they're out in pure daylight, unapologetically.
sorry, got a little nihilistic there but that is the world we live in
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:09 (seven years ago)
I find myself obsessively running thought experiments of what the president could say about immigrants that would be a breaking point, and and feeling panic that the answer is: nothing.— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 19, 2018
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:12 (seven years ago)
*points, laughs*
https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-jr-cancels-fundraiser-with-jeb-bush-son-17f70c48-39ac-4975-92b2-e54fa7057cfe.html
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:13 (seven years ago)
I'm just more baffled that they're still feigning innocence over trading in their dog whistles for air horns. Like, everyone knows what you're promoting, you fascist smeg golems.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:13 (seven years ago)
Good post, Karl, but it needs puppets
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:19 (seven years ago)
When you've been gargling Israel's balls as long as the US has, quitting the UN Human Rights Council is just a formality.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:22 (seven years ago)
meanwhile in "Trump is doing a great job with the economy" landhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2018/06/19/stocks-trump-tariff-threat/713022002/
― Eliza D., Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:30 (seven years ago)
Now imagine this garbage.
Sean Spicer just announced that he is now the cohost of a podcast called “Everything’s Going To Be All Right”: pic.twitter.com/4zmFeYyDQC— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) June 19, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:34 (seven years ago)
The stuff about migrants to Europe 'violently changing the culture' of the nations who take them in is unadulterated neo-Nazism.
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:37 (seven years ago)
How's that Nobel Peace Prize nomination coming along though?
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:38 (seven years ago)
Right. Gee, what kind of niche interest can I imagine the kid that the jocks, nerds, band geeks and burnouts all hate picking up ...
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:42 (seven years ago)
meanwhile in "Trump is doing a great job with the economy" land
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2018/06/19/stocks-trump-tariff-threat/713022002/
― Eliza D., Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:30 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Now that is what I'm talking about. If the economy/stock market remain relatively hale, I honestly feel like elections this year and even in 2020 could be a total toss-up because too many (incredibly fucking dumb) people will be hesitant about rocking the boat however plainly batshit the captain may be. So bring it on imo.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:43 (seven years ago)
so much enraging shit happening but that Canadians buying shoes comment is really aggravating/revealing: you don't pay customs to the US on goods you buy there when you exit, you pay customs to Canada on goods you bring in from outside when you return. So he's pissed that Canadians are spending money in the US (plus sales tax) and then lying to their own govt about it to avoid paying duty tax.
― rob, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:46 (seven years ago)
He literally understands nothing about how anything works but he reserves the right to become infuriated over his incorrect interpretation. A mental health professional would have to tell you exactly what that tendency is called, though.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:49 (seven years ago)
idk seems like p standard old white guy entitled bullshit, i don't need to crack the dsm for that
― gbx, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:50 (seven years ago)
Compromise: every ICE official gets locked in a cage, but they're allowed to call it whatever they want.— David Klion 🔥 (@DavidKlion) June 18, 2018
― Simon H., Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:57 (seven years ago)
Here's Trump hugging the flag for some reason pic.twitter.com/Ylgyr54R0m— VICE News (@vicenews) June 19, 2018
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:51 (seven years ago)
Barron buying this as we speak:
https://www.amazon.com/Outfit-Independence-Patriotic-Holiday-Costume/dp/B075R8JVLV
― evol j, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:59 (seven years ago)
never been a better time to burn a flag imo
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:02 (seven years ago)
Naturally:
NEW: Rudy Giuliani tells HuffPost that FBI agents questioned him — in his suite at the Trump International Hotel -- about leaks that hurt the Clinton campaign. Story with @svdate: https://t.co/L8WMRRUxwX— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) June 19, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:03 (seven years ago)
That final paragraph:
“They said they were satisfied,” Giuliani said of the two agents who interviewed him. “If they want to interview me all over again? They can interview me all over again. ... Maybe they’ll come raid my office like Michael Cohen.”
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:04 (seven years ago)
Here's Trump hugging the flag for some reason
We know why he does it.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:04 (seven years ago)
Him feeling the need to constantly bask in flag humping is so visually appalling.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:05 (seven years ago)
rubs up on it
― valorous wokelord (silby), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:05 (seven years ago)
Grab 'em by the poll!
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:07 (seven years ago)
just digesting trump's latest encyclical- immigrants are criminals who are a danger to the countries they travel to- in fact they are like insects- democrats are encouraging these criminal insects to cross the border and infest America because they will end up voting democrat in elections and democrats know this- i.e. democrats are actively encouraging crime and immigrant infestation for their own political gainjust want to make sure I've got that straight
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)
Immigrants AND Canadians!
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:11 (seven years ago)
Well Trump has never been tat strong on history but that does sound like quite a good description of his family history doesn't it?
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:12 (seven years ago)
he's one step away from calling democrats "kuffirs"
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:13 (seven years ago)
btw i always knew this display name would have legs, but i will admit being a little disappointed by how right i was
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:14 (seven years ago)
Tracer, you're an immigrant. What country are you infesting again? I am infesting one in SA.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:17 (seven years ago)
- immigrants are criminals who are a danger to the countries they travel to- in fact they are like insects- democrats are encouraging these criminal insects to cross the border and infest America because they will end up voting democrat in elections and democrats know this- i.e. democrats are actively encouraging crime and immigrant infestation for their own political gain
Dang, Mexico better get to work on that wall toot sweet. What's the holdup? Probably some BS permitting thing.
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:29 (seven years ago)
the uk but I'm white and middle class I'll be ok even if things are a LITTLE WEIRD HERE FOR PEOPLE WHOSE IMMIGRATION STATUS IS BASED ON THEIR EU CONNECTIONSxpost
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:30 (seven years ago)
can someone explain where these numbers are coming from cuz I'm seeing people read this as "5 out of 6 kids were being sent by human traffickers"
We must always arrest people coming into our Country illegally. Of the 12,000 children, 10,000 are being sent by their parents on a very dangerous trip, and only 2000 are with their parents, many of whom have tried to enter our Country illegally on numerous occasions.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2018
― frogbs, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)
Truly convincing.
Just spent 1-on-1 time with Manuel Padilla, chief of Border Patrol’s Rio Grande Valley sector — the epicenter of separations. He told me conditions in that processing center with cages are “not that bad,” he sees kids there smiling and he’s spoken with them about the World Cup.— Jacob Soboroff (@jacobsoboroff) June 19, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:42 (seven years ago)
i can virtually guarantee that all of those numbers are completely fabricated
― gbx, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:42 (seven years ago)
this is a total goat rodeo
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:43 (seven years ago)
it really is
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:43 (seven years ago)
brb, going to go chat with incarcerated people about sports and see if that makes them feel less like they're in FUCKING JAIL
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)
also going to contemplate whether the "process" implied by "processing center" is or is not akin to the same root when used in the term "food processor"
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:49 (seven years ago)
how much of this is a misapprehension of how this would play out in the court of public opinion and how much is calculated hostage-taking?
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:51 (seven years ago)
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:51 (seven years ago)
or, more likely, is it just an opportunity to double-down, get approx half the voting public and major media players to carry their water, thereby creating a 'new normal'
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:52 (seven years ago)
yea looks like "they're doing this to stop human trafficking" is starting to become the official right wing line, if Dilbert is to be trusted
You took the pro-child-trafficking side over the temporary cages side. There were only two options on the table. https://t.co/53zTFaOwug— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) June 19, 2018
― frogbs, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)
i can say from personal experience that the rio grande CBP are among the most unpleasant and stupid people on the planet.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)
would be a real gd shame if their everyday lives were made into a living hell
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:55 (seven years ago)
human ingenuity for self-justification is one of the most powerful forces the universe has ever known
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:56 (seven years ago)
will: The administration's communication strategy is not either/or but both/and. The aptest metaphor is the throwing up of rhetorical chaff.
They don't give much of a shit about the predictable reactions of bleeding-heart lib softies (who already think Trump is the embodiment of evil - what's the incentive to try to win over the pantywaists?). Just shake in a soupcon of "but the Democrats!" to obfuscate the picture just enough for low-info voters.
The real effort is to dogwhistle to racists while maintaining a fig leaf deniability by not actually tweeting this shit in the original German.
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:02 (seven years ago)
christ “but human trafficking!!” is their go to line for everything huh. never mind trump’s longstanding palling around with jeff epstein of course
― maura, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:04 (seven years ago)
...or Trump being in the hotel industry, which has knowingly and unknowingly profited of Trafficking since forever.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:12 (seven years ago)
'human ingenuity for self-justification is one of the most powerful forces the universe has ever known' - la rochefoucauld
― j., Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:16 (seven years ago)
I thought that was Bob Marley but what do I know
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:21 (seven years ago)
You get the impression that when Coulter dies her body won't be found for a few weeks.— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) June 19, 2018
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:33 (seven years ago)
bullshit, ann coulter’s been an ambulatory corpse for decades
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:35 (seven years ago)
this is all going to be a complete mess
WASHINGTON — Republican senators moved on Tuesday to defuse a political crisis by seeking passage of legislation that would swiftly bring an end to President Trump’s practice of separating children from their parents when families cross into the United States illegally.
i'm assuming it's Breaking News on NYT because they mean they're willing to bring the child separation to an end as a separate piece of legislation from the hypothetical Immigration bill that would fund the stupid fucking wall, reduce visas, and generally ratchet up border enforcement? did they somehow solve the problem of house tea party assholes torpedoing any bill that isn't cruel enough to migrant people? or the trump administration using the separated children as a hostages for said comprehensive legislation?
on top of that, there's this:
But Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader, immediately shot down the Republican approach, saying that Mr. Trump could — and should — use his executive authority, not legislation, to quickly end the family separations.“There are so many obstacles to legislation, and when the president can do it with his own pen, it makes no sense,” Mr. Schumer said.
“There are so many obstacles to legislation, and when the president can do it with his own pen, it makes no sense,” Mr. Schumer said.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:43 (seven years ago)
fund the stupid fucking wall
But this is easy, we just send the bill to Mexico. Right?
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:50 (seven years ago)
More likely he’ll pull some tariff bullshit with Mexico that results in a couple billion dollars for his friends, which he’ll cite as proof of “Mexico paying for it” at the expense of everyone else
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:52 (seven years ago)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, June 19, 2018 7:53 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
seconded
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:05 (seven years ago)
Pleasant smart people in not signing up for those jobs SHOCKA
― john woo tang clan (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:06 (seven years ago)
- democrats are encouraging these criminal insects to cross the border and infest America because they will end up voting democrat in elections and democrats know this
this is absolute nonsense, I'm not able to vote here
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:07 (seven years ago)
There are a lot of ignorant people in the US who take whatever Txxxx says at face value; when such a huge portion of his words are blatant lies, it doesn't change anything for his minions.
― ian, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:13 (seven years ago)
Well don't worry there's still one adult in the roo-
Over the past 24 hours I've heard from several sources that Defense Secretary Mattis has been iced out by POTUS and has increasingly become isolated.— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) June 19, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:13 (seven years ago)
i don't know the economic situation in the rio grande valley as well (they've got spacex now though lol), but over in west texas the big bend CBP is literally the only big employer south of the 10, so i think at least in part it's a case of no other options and CBP making people worse, rather than preexisting cruelty/stupidity.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:14 (seven years ago)
Mattis should do the right thing and cut Trump's throat tbh. Then Miller's.
― ian, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:16 (seven years ago)
We need news -- we just got it.. Un-fucking-believable.
U.S. District Judge Julie Robinson on Monday ruled a Kansas law that requires new voters to prove citizenship is unconstitutional and ordered Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach to return to school as punishment for repeated violations of court rules.
Her 118-page ruling sides with the American Civil Liberties Union in a two-year legal battle over the law’s burden and effect on elections. She provided a damning assessment of Kobach’s witnesses, calling their evidence flawed, invalid, biased, irrelevant, unreliable and untrustworthy.
Robinson also takes aim at Kobach for “repeated and flagrant violations” of court procedures during the March trial. His repeated last-minute efforts to introduce new evidence showed a pattern of “flaunting disclosure and discovery rules that are designed to prevent prejudice and surprise at trial,” she said.
As a sanction, Kobach must take six hours of continuing law education in addition to any hours required for his law license.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:18 (seven years ago)
From yesterday but yeah, that's both great and hilarious.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:20 (seven years ago)
Trump: "When you are prosecute the parents for coming in illegally — which should happen — you have to take the children away." pic.twitter.com/uv5oF2eeJd— Meg Wagner (@megwagner) June 19, 2018
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:21 (seven years ago)
Video of quote embedded in tweet ^^^^
Such politics
STATE OF PLAY—Variety of GOP ideas, no clear consensus for fixing family separation. Trump supports some (overturning Flores), not others (more judges). Democrats believe Trump broke this, can fix it, don’t see a viable legislative path. POTUS gets briefed soon on House GOP plan.— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) June 19, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:35 (seven years ago)
"POTUS gets briefed soon on House GOP plan."
of which he said, earlier today:
“We have a House that’s getting ready to finalize an immigration package that they are going to brief me on later, and I’m going to make changes,” Mr. Trump vowed, without providing details about what he plans to change.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:58 (seven years ago)
FYI the Medium post of ICE workers from LinekdIn was taken down.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:02 (seven years ago)
Author shared out the raw data on Twitter.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:02 (seven years ago)
ah i see it now
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:08 (seven years ago)
Ah how sweet
Trump tells House Republicans now that Ivanka talked to him about family separation at the border and that the images are not good.— Rachael Bade (@rachaelmbade) June 19, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:12 (seven years ago)
well, he wasn't watching TV before, see
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:13 (seven years ago)
How heartwarming.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:14 (seven years ago)
(Word yesterday was he was thinking they were all fakes.)
ivanka/melania is how he will find a way to save face, per
Confused about what's happening here? Don't be. A medievalist can explain. + pic.twitter.com/6SEvjBrniW— Sonja (@Sonja_Drimmer) June 17, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:16 (seven years ago)
LIVE: Activists are outside a Trump Hotel fundraiser blasting leaked audio of children crying at a detention center. https://t.co/NWilIiWezz— Alejandro Alvarez (@aletweetsnews) June 19, 2018
Since the president is lying about this, I'll reiterate that we obtained internal CBP documents that show that ****91%**** of parents whose kids are taken away are being prosecuted for misdemeanor FIRST TIME entry.— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 19, 2018
― gbx, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:18 (seven years ago)
this NPR interview with a border patrol official is chilling:
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19/621578853/border-patrol-official-discusses-family-separation-policy
he repeatedly argues that the media is getting the story wrong, that it's all overblown, "when people hear zero tolerance you'd think we're prosecuting 100% that cross the border - in fact we're prosecuting between 10 and 20 percent of the people crossing the border", etc. upon repeated questioning, admits that he's only talking about Border Patrol, that he can't speak to what happens when these people go to ICE, and that "we don't know what happens when they go to ICE". he then shifts to arguing that nothing has changed on the border since 2014, and then after repeated questioning clarifies that he means "from the Border Patrol's perspective". His message boils down to nothing to see here, this is the media's fault, and also:
"what happens with ICE, after that - I don't know...they have to go to ICE first, and what happens after that, I don't see it"
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:26 (seven years ago)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/members-of-sessions-church-accuse-him-of-child-abuse-for-border-policies/
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:28 (seven years ago)
The skillful touch of our leader.
WOW! Trump: “Is Mark Sanford here? I just want to congratulate him on running a great race.” Room goes silent. Trump then called him a nasty guy and the room booed, a bit.— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) June 19, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:33 (seven years ago)
Such focus
Trump appears to be more interesting in talking about anything BUT immigration at this conference. He is re-living the past, going through GOP successes from rebuilding the military to opioids to tax cuts to NK to fighter jets and lots and lots of winning, per sources in the room— Rachael Bade (@rachaelmbade) June 19, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:36 (seven years ago)
XPS Literal Holy Shit!
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:37 (seven years ago)
Trump to House Republicans tonight: "We gotta take care of separation. It's too nasty."This is amazing considering the Trump administration both executed the policy and has the power to stop it.— Josh Jordan (@NumbersMuncher) June 19, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:42 (seven years ago)
Hooray uh er
At the end of the day, gop leaders got what they wanted out of that meeting: a statement they could position as a full-throated endorsement of the immigration bills. And the president got to insult Mark Sanford — a popular man who has been in the House for more than a decade.— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) June 19, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:49 (seven years ago)
Shot...
“It made me mad as hell,” Rep. Walter Jones says about a Trump comment regarding Mark Sanford. Said Trump talked for 45 minutes straight and no one had a chance to say anything.— Lissandra Villa (@LissandraVilla) June 19, 2018
...chaser.
Oh. The Walter Jones who wanted to impeach Obama? https://t.co/KXzXyTvIQP— I'll ride with you📎 (@mrshellwinger) June 19, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:57 (seven years ago)
Is nasty the new sad?
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:03 (seven years ago)
― Yerac, Tuesday, June 19, 2018 8:17 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Wait, you're in Lesotho?
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:04 (seven years ago)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:05 (seven years ago)
Nasty woman. It's such an old dad word to use.
xpost I'm in south america.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:17 (seven years ago)
Nasty is a sexy word more than an offputting one, imo.
― ian, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:20 (seven years ago)
I guess it depends on who is saying it.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:24 (seven years ago)
Whatever could prompt such concern.
Trump made clear on a few occasions in the meeting that he’s with the house republicans all the way. A big concern in gop circles is that trump frequently abandons them or gets wobbly on policies they back.— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) June 19, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:29 (seven years ago)
THIS time he really means it u guys, honest
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:30 (seven years ago)
Hmm at this last detail:
Hagin on his way out, via @peterbakernyt. Among other people who are rumored to be leaving this - Dan Scavino >>> https://t.co/YwKpZjvKJx— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) June 19, 2018
Scavino leaving would be...interesting.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:34 (seven years ago)
he's going to the private sector to write tweets for bigger, richer morons
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:47 (seven years ago)
Can't wait for the Musk tweets
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:47 (seven years ago)
Oo-er missus
trump asks staffers whether “others are leaking, and he recently told one person that ‘the Bushies in the White House are out to get me,’ according to someone with direct knowledge of the discussion.” https://t.co/YwKpZjvKJx— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) June 19, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:52 (seven years ago)
"Are you a hu-man?"
"Mr. Trump has grown isolated within the West Wing, according to advisers, and is eager for human contact..." https://t.co/hxeiALIJp8— Joel Siegel (@joelmsiegel) June 19, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:53 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SWsiFVxpbA
― Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 00:00 (seven years ago)
I suspect I've been reading that Haberman tweet since April 2017.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 00:03 (seven years ago)
Freshly washed, each time.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 00:31 (seven years ago)
― Dan S, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 00:38 (seven years ago)
DHS Secretary Nielsen just got driven out of a Mexican restaurant here on 14th Street by activists. DSA, I believe. pic.twitter.com/lTKutryXBO— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) June 20, 2018
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 00:42 (seven years ago)
hahaha!
― Dan S, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 00:45 (seven years ago)
https://www.facebook.com/MetroDCDSA/posts/803611493171511
FB live video of them heckling her here
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 00:50 (seven years ago)
love it
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 00:53 (seven years ago)
at a mexican restaurant ffs
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 00:58 (seven years ago)
and you just know she and her dining companion snickered when mexican was suggested for dinner
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:01 (seven years ago)
she really fuckin' tried it
― maura, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:23 (seven years ago)
I have posted about this elsewhere (immigration thread) but if you would like to give money to an organization that has been working with dreamers and asylum seekers for several years now, might I recommend http://www.santafedreamersproject.org
full disclosure: it's my friend's org and I'm hoping to start doing psych evals for them soon (not to horn blow but in case the ilx connection might sweeten the deal)
there's also a whole lot of other organizations that could use your money. and remember, if money seems "easy" or disconnected or whatever, just consider the fact that the lawyers and staffers need to get paid and the lights kept on, monetary support is real support
― gbx, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:25 (seven years ago)
that's great, gbx
― Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:34 (seven years ago)
yep, donated.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:39 (seven years ago)
nice, done! thx gbx.
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:41 (seven years ago)
gbx - just donated. godspeed
― 龜, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:42 (seven years ago)
hey thanks to you folks, fundraising is (I'm told) a huge pain in the ass and literally anything helps
― gbx, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:46 (seven years ago)
yes also donated
I really hope that these people won't prevail
― Dan S, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:47 (seven years ago)
'nasty' is the word of the day, apparently
Homeland Security @SecNielsen did a fabulous job yesterday at the press conference explaining security at the border and for our country, while at the same time recommending changes to obsolete & nasty laws, which force family separation. We want “heart” and security in America!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 20, 2018
― jmm, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:49 (seven years ago)
in full support of doxxing ICE agents
― Simon H., Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:55 (seven years ago)
http://archive.is/vvDgw
"tender age" shelters, really? this is so disgusting
― Dan S, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 02:23 (seven years ago)
honestly, thinking through it... the people who support this are worse than the nazis. people who stood by silently and supported the nazi regime at least had a bit more plausible deniability than this. really, how many people would have supported the nazis if concentration camp footage was plastered all over the media? there are no words for such depravity.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 02:40 (seven years ago)
Sociopath Corey Lewandowski responds "Womp Womp" to story of a Down Syndrome child being taken for her mother. pic.twitter.com/Jv9YBmmuxB— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) June 20, 2018
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 02:43 (seven years ago)
as astonishingly terrible as ann coulter is, what's even worse is fox news giving her a national platform on a regular basis for what, 15 years now? 20?
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 02:44 (seven years ago)
@ rushomancyTo paraphrase a tweet, at least the Germans had "reeling from WWI" as an excuse - - what do the chuds have?
― Simon H., Wednesday, 20 June 2018 02:51 (seven years ago)
Reeling from the cancellation of "Roseanne"?
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 02:52 (seven years ago)
Reeling from Obama?
― nickn, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 02:53 (seven years ago)
yes, based on the psycho ex-high-school-classmates my wife was attempting to engage with on FB
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 02:57 (seven years ago)
HE DID IT TOO
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 02:58 (seven years ago)
"Trump will bring world peace in five years" - no lie, for real
To paraphrase a tweet, at least the Germans had "reeling from WWI" as an excuse - - what do the chuds have?
― Simon H.
well, i mean, capitalism has completely failed them. rather than confront it they just make up their own Dolchstoßlegende - that part isn't terribly new.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 03:06 (seven years ago)
Don’t forget Harvard made womp womp lewandowski a fellow http://iop.harvard.edu/fellows/corey-r-lewandowski
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 03:06 (seven years ago)
i usually just ask the high school fb chuds: if Obama was doing all this before then why didn't he get any credit from ghouls like Hannity, Tucker, Ingraham, Coulter et al?
they usually either block or ignore me. it's fun.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 03:09 (seven years ago)
all the world needed was a five year series of daily US temper tantrums to get its head on straight
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 03:10 (seven years ago)
Most Trump voters aren't lower-class; by and large, they're far from capitalism's worst American victims.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 20 June 2018 03:26 (seven years ago)
didn't realize it was DSA folks who chased Nielsen out of dinner; good for them
DSA did some work today pic.twitter.com/K1GxmhJTqU— Christopher Mathias (@letsgomathias) June 20, 2018
― Simon H., Wednesday, 20 June 2018 03:43 (seven years ago)
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:09 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah seriously if the GOP cared a single bit about this happening under Obama it would have been abolished yesterday
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 03:45 (seven years ago)
yup, expelling millions of immigrants and and extrajudicial killings abroad were A-OK by them.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 20 June 2018 03:47 (seven years ago)
i'm not saying we need to go full "hillbilly elegy" here, but i think a case could be made for the economic uncertainty engendered by reaganite capitalism causing widespread hardship. of course chuds are the same people who worked hardest to put reaganite capitalism into place, but i think the problem is less that they're not suffering than that they fundamentally lack both the knowledge and the critical thinking skills to understand the causes and possible solutions of that suffering.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 03:52 (seven years ago)
That's a fair analysis.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 20 June 2018 03:57 (seven years ago)
It is good to see that righteous people in DC can still flash mob the secretary of DHS at a restaurant and walk away without bullshit arrests on bullshit charges. Thank fucking god for the little things.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 04:51 (seven years ago)
(I’m completely serious, in case that reads as sarcasm to anyone)
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 04:53 (seven years ago)
Lewandowski would be completely ostracized immediately from a truly moral, compassionate society
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 05:05 (seven years ago)
u know we don't have to figure "worse than the Nazis" for these ppl to be bad enough
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 06:23 (seven years ago)
pretty sure gratuitous cruelty against brown people is the plan https://t.co/sAUIjRmffn— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) June 20, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 06:32 (seven years ago)
Ugh, I'm sorry. If nothing else, it is my job to actually be able to speak while I'm on TV.What I was trying to do -- when I suddenly couldn't say/do anything -- was read this lede:1/6— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) June 20, 2018
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 09:36 (seven years ago)
29 years and nine months ago I registered to vote and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose slavery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump.— Steve Schmidt (@SteveSchmidtSES) June 20, 2018
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 10:18 (seven years ago)
lol @ Schmidt praising Baker, Hogan and Kasich.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 10:30 (seven years ago)
i hear you, i'm not a big fan of internet-hyperbole, and i do want to be clear that i'm not necessarily talking about the leadership here - there isn't, and i pray to god won't, be sufficient evidence to allow for a direct worst-case comparison. i'm strictly talking Good Americans here, and in this particular case i do believe that a fearless moral reckoning is in order.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 11:17 (seven years ago)
Recall that before Kirstjen Nielsen ran the Trump family separation policy, she was Senior Director for Preparedness and Response on the Bush White House's Homeland Security Council, where she ignored specific warnings in 2005 leading up to Katrina https://t.co/qFRf6IUkDW pic.twitter.com/FNl86V1w1S— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) June 20, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 12:55 (seven years ago)
Donald Trump doesn't care about people.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:05 (seven years ago)
can 'womp womp' be the July thread title
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:21 (seven years ago)
6 stages of Trump
1) we don't have that policy2) actually it was Obama's policy3) okay maybe it is our policy, we need to do it to deter illegal immigration4) we don't like the policy either, but have no choice because the Dems won't agree to fund our border wall5) it's actually really offensive of you to get mad at us for putting kids in concentration camps, we're just following orders6) womp womp
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:27 (seven years ago)
http://thehill.com/latino/393171-michigan-receiving-detained-immigrant-children-as-young-as-3-months-old
this is fucking reprehensible!I know damn well thye have no plan in place to get this babies back with their parents at any point .
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:32 (seven years ago)
I have no idea how I had got this far without realising that Ned and Corey’s favourite expression is sad_trombone.wav
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:58 (seven years ago)
womp womp rats
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:08 (seven years ago)
that or "We Got Space Force", or "Space Force Womp Womp".
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:12 (seven years ago)
"Space Force Womp Womp".
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, June 20, 2018 7:12 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the long lost zapp single
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)
prob should've gone with my first instinct to make a monster magnet joke
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:16 (seven years ago)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:18 (seven years ago)
xpost As a descriptor for the GOP?
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:18 (seven years ago)
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:18 (seven years ago)
the comrades are good as hell
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:33 (seven years ago)
yeah all the direct action shit has been super inspiring
― Simon H., Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:34 (seven years ago)
https://apnews.com/1dafadd6fee4447cadd4a0179553026e
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:35 (seven years ago)
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:37 (seven years ago)
but wait they were just doing their jobs and Democrats needed to change the laws to stop it, I'm so confused
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:38 (seven years ago)
"according to two people familiar with her thinking"
They asked her ex and her bestie
― Evan, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:39 (seven years ago)
the lede from that link
WASHINGTON (AP) — Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen is drafting an executive action for President Donald Trump that would direct her department to keep families together in detention after they are detained crossing the border illegally, according to two people familiar with her thinking. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the effort before its official announcement.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:39 (seven years ago)
It's a little thing, but I'm on hold right now with SiriusXm to cancel, mostly for the satisfaction of decrying the garbage on the Patriot channel.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:39 (seven years ago)
trump and his neo-nazi friends are going to be disappointed to learn that public outcry might force them to stop taking children and their families hostage
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:41 (seven years ago)
eh they got what they wanted: half the country is frothing at the mouth in excitement over ripping brown kids away from their parents. and they'll get to say they "fixed" it. but we should still be doing it. but hey, at least they reversed what was *actually* obama's fault. but it's actually good. and needed.
and the next thing will be worse. and the chuds will enthusiastically cheer that, too. even though it was really obama's doing.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:41 (seven years ago)
The person said the secretary believes there is little certainty that Congress will act to fix the separation issue that has been dominating news coverage and she is trying to find a solution.
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
― sciatica, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:42 (seven years ago)
Corey Lewandowski, who said "womp womp" on national TV today regarding a 10-year old immigrant girl with Down Syndrome being taken from her mother, works for a PAC that gets donations from a company that owns private immigration detention facilities. https://t.co/CQJRCGfSXy pic.twitter.com/rztMztYisI— Aaron Sankin (@ASankin) June 20, 2018
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:42 (seven years ago)
This was always the goal: hold on until the last, most excruciating moment, making sure that Congress got duly blamed, then sign an exec orer that makes Trump look like a hero to his racist base.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:44 (seven years ago)
half the country
this is never true
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:44 (seven years ago)
you're right: approx half the voting public
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:46 (seven years ago)
also, put all the other Nazi crap in the bill:
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/gop-bills-to-lock-up-families-together-are-fulfilling-the-trump-admins-wishes
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:47 (seven years ago)
how many ppl voted for Trump? 63 million? so i guess maybe only 60-61 million or so support the shit out of this.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:47 (seven years ago)
This is what happens when immigrant families cross the border outside a port of entry: https://t.co/n0BCeT8OmP thanks @darlacameron @CEssig @emmaplatoff pic.twitter.com/K1CHq4zUc3— amanda zamora (@amzam) June 20, 2018
i hope people are paying attention on the day we finally receive stats on the number of children who were sent to foster care because relatives in the US couldn't be located.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:04 (seven years ago)
60million voted for trump, 63million voted for Hillary, I thought.
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:04 (seven years ago)
the president's third wife is an immigrant. and so was his first wife. his sons, and one of his two daughters were born to mothers born outside our borders. i hope the GOP come to their senses but i'm not holding my breath
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:12 (seven years ago)
good praxis https://splinternews.com/heres-stephen-millers-cell-phone-number-if-you-need-it-1826985626
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:16 (seven years ago)
I'm so confused pt 2: weren't they just saying everything was fine, media was making something out of nothing? why would they need to make an executive order or have Congress pass a law to fix something that isn't broken??
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:20 (seven years ago)
the important thing is that from the perspective of the border patrol, everything is fine and nothing has changed since 2014, these children are only detained for a couple hours, tops. they do hand them over to ICE and they have no idea what happens after that, but keep in mind that everything is fine and nothing has changed, from the border patrol's perspective.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:24 (seven years ago)
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:24 (seven years ago)
the president's third wife is an immigrant. and so was his first wife.
... and so was his mother. Paleskins though.
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:27 (seven years ago)
xp will I don't totally get that post, can you clarify?
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:28 (seven years ago)
It's non-white immigrants.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:30 (seven years ago)
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:31 (seven years ago)
ah thx
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:31 (seven years ago)
womp womp
This is unbelievable.The Capitol is filled with wives, husbands and kids, who have flown into town because they were invited to go to the White House. This is a highlight of many congressional families’ summers. https://t.co/FvNz2YjGqf— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) June 20, 2018
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:35 (seven years ago)
I am watching this bullshit conference with Trump. Such bullshit.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:35 (seven years ago)
Shakespearean!
President Trump on immigration:“The dilemma is that if you’re weak... the country is going to be overrun with millions of people, and if you’re strong, then you don’t have any heart. That's a tough dilemma. Perhaps I’d rather be strong, but that's a tough dilemma.” pic.twitter.com/YYkGgW4yjm— NBC News (@NBCNews) June 20, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:37 (seven years ago)
cool cool, just the president deciding if he'd rather be feared or loved in the middle of everything
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:40 (seven years ago)
anyway, like always, this is a particularly depressing day for blue feed red feed
http://graphics.wsj.com/blue-feed-red-feed/#/immigration
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:42 (seven years ago)
(yes, "like always" and "particular"; every time is a new nadir of depressing)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:45 (seven years ago)
oof.
President Trump is preparing to issue an executive order as soon as Wednesday that ends the separation of families at the border by indefinitely detaining parents and children together, according to a person familiar with the White House plans.Mr. Trump’s executive order would seek to get around an existing 1997 consent decree, known as the Flores settlement, that prohibits the federal government from keeping children in immigration detention — even if they are with their parents — for more than 20 days.
Mr. Trump’s executive order would seek to get around an existing 1997 consent decree, known as the Flores settlement, that prohibits the federal government from keeping children in immigration detention — even if they are with their parents — for more than 20 days.
The President says he’s signing an executive order to end family separations. The actual aim seems to be to pick a fight with the courts and allow separations to continue while blaming judges. According to The New York Times, the President will sign an executive order allowing children to be detained indefinitely with their parents. The problem is that that violates a 1997 consent decree saying that you can’t detain/imprison children for more than 20 days (technically what’s currently happening isn’t detention). It straight up violates that order. So what will almost inevitably happen is that a court will step in, say you can’t do that and then Trump will announce that the judge is forcing him to keep separating families.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:00 (seven years ago)
Could result in a more interesting order than he's expecting, though.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:02 (seven years ago)
thanks Karl, that's totally what he's doing here
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:03 (seven years ago)
'I'm not touching you, you can't get mad' shall be the whole of the law.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:05 (seven years ago)
Like this has just been a year and a half of Trump with his finger waggling in the periphery of our vision and being all, what, I'm just staaaaanding here.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:06 (seven years ago)
an important tidbit to keep in mind when you're arguing with my mom people who try to bypass the tricky "detaining toddlers" aspect of the story with "all i care about is enforcing the law and keeping this country safe" bullshit:
For all the talk from the WH about immigrant criminals, the practical effect of the new policy is to radically shift public resources from prosecuting people with criminal records to prosecuting desperate people with no record seeking refuge.— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 20, 2018
Before this policy roughly 90% of prosecutions in McAllen federal court were of detained immigrants with criminal records. Since the new policy it’s flipped! 90% of those being prosecuted have no record and are facing misdemeanor charges for first time entry.— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 20, 2018
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:20 (seven years ago)
Christ, people (my mom and dad) so concerned about the country being safe never even fucking leave their street.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:38 (seven years ago)
Absolute nightmare fuel:
https://www.revealnews.org/blog/immigrant-children-forcibly-injected-with-drugs-lawsuit-claims/
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:38 (seven years ago)
trump retweeted this a few hours ago:
Once the mid terms are over, liberals won’t talk about detained or separated illegal immigrant children until 2020. #itsallpolitics— Dr.Darrell Scott (@PastorDScott) June 19, 2018
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:43 (seven years ago)
donald trump is every privilege you don't deserve. rebuke aristocracy and chill the fuck out
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:45 (seven years ago)
Even if that were true that’s just a 1 year break, though the 2020 election season is gonna start in March of next year roughly
― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:45 (seven years ago)
they assume that because they don't care about anything other than their own naked self-interest, nobody else does either
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:47 (seven years ago)
Yup. Bogeyman.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:51 (seven years ago)
tbf sounds like they've got the Schumers, Kaines et al pretty much nailed
xpost
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:51 (seven years ago)
taking a nice look at pastor dr darrell scott's page. he's a real piece of shit. his use of hashtag #itsallpolitics is basically just a reflection on his own worldview
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:51 (seven years ago)
fall into trump's trap and take him and his literally rather than the final gasping of desperate grifters in the twilight of reagan's america
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
Even if that were true that’s just a 1 year break, though the 2020 election season is gonna start in March of next year roughly― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, June 20, 2018 5:45 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, June 20, 2018 5:45 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol it starts November 7th, my dude
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:55 (seven years ago)
well sure but there's still the matter of presidential candidates officially declaring and that I think will still at least wait until after congress is sworn in
― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:57 (seven years ago)
What a heel turn er wait
WOW- Cohen takes swipe at Trump- "...the images and sounds of this family separation policy is heart wrenching,” Cohen wrote to RNC. “While I strongly support measures that will secure our porous borders, children should never be used as bargaining chips." https://t.co/B4butq6bb8— John Santucci (@JTSantucci) June 20, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 18:00 (seven years ago)
^ was tired of being out of the headlines
― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 18:02 (seven years ago)
Well he was going to make them anyway:
EXCLUSIVE: Longtime Trump attorney Michael Cohen resigns as deputy finance chair of the RNC's Finance Committee, sources tell @ABC. https://t.co/dCmksACH88 pic.twitter.com/lb8rFApQHC— World News Tonight (@ABCWorldNews) June 20, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 18:03 (seven years ago)
The presence of an incumbent president will keep most potential Republican challengers deeply incognito until late 2019. Democrat hopefuls won't bust out the big announcement until at least May, but they will be making plenty of friendly phone calls to donors, governors, state party chairs, activists and operatives long before that. And dropping hints to the media.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 18:04 (seven years ago)
REVENGE OF THE MOOCH
As I predicted Monday, once @POTUS got focused on the child separation issue he put an end to it. President @realDonaldTrump is a compassionate person. He was getting bad advice and info from his Chief of Staff, who started pushing this policy in March 2017 while at DHS. https://t.co/M4DDSJjSau— Anthony Scaramucci (@Scaramucci) June 20, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 18:18 (seven years ago)
mock the tastes of the underprivileged, bourgeois know-it-alls, and reap republican rule
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 18:24 (seven years ago)
"I alone can save you from me"
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 18:27 (seven years ago)
my libertarian prof who insisted walmart and gop is the best friend poors ever have had
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 18:28 (seven years ago)
Common theme: A Trump supporter in Duluth, one of many waiting in a long line outside tonight’s rally location, just told me she has compassion for separated families but ultimately believes that the detainment center photos and videos are fake and photoshopped.— Katie Rogers (@katierogers) June 20, 2018
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 18:35 (seven years ago)
So we're now supposed to believe that Trump has been acting under the dictate of someone who isn't a Fox News anchor? Yeah, okay, pull the other one and see if it jingles, bruh.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 18:36 (seven years ago)
lol as if the person who will ultimately replace john kelly isn't corey fucking lewandowski
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
https://splinternews.com/heres-stephen-millers-cell-phone-number-if-you-need-it-1826985626
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 19:32 (seven years ago)
My big worry now is that Trump's new order will improve things slightly and the whole episode will be forgotten, even though the family separations are just one of the uglier aspects of a much larger immigration catastrophe.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, June 20, 2018 11:58 PM
oh!
I thought Ned's whomps were "here's another news story [drops pile of paper on table, whomp]"
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 19:39 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObdC3uhPeEY
― even in your onion (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 19:42 (seven years ago)
― gbx, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)
Thank you democrats for fixing this thing that only you had the power to correct !
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 19:54 (seven years ago)
ned's womps are pure
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 20:05 (seven years ago)
One tries.
Meantime, drama! (Read the whole thread.)
🔥🔥Mark Meadows and Paul Ryan are in a very heated discussion in the middle of the house floor.— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) June 20, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 20:31 (seven years ago)
like watching a battle between a water bottle and a pitcher
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 20:31 (seven years ago)
Oh yeah, remember last week.
DefSec Jim Mattis says he is "not aware" of any North Korean steps towards denuclearisation, saying "detailed negotiations have not begun".— Julian Borger (@julianborger) June 20, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 20:32 (seven years ago)
Oh. Oh my, this headline.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/20/rudy-giuliani-love-life-white-house-657981
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 20:33 (seven years ago)
JUST IN: Senior Justice Department official Gene Hamilton confirms the Flores settlement still controls, and that unless Congress or the court acts, the government can only detain families together for "up to 20 days."— Steven Portnoy (@stevenportnoy) June 20, 2018
this is reprehensible, and will probably work for trump, politically. it at least puts him in a better spot. now he's started a 20-day countdown clock until the separations start happening again, and he'll just say that congress has to act. of course he has the option of ending the policy of prosecuting EVERYONE who crosses the border illegally, which is what's driving all of this, but no one expects him to even consider doing it. instead, it'll just be "congress has to act" and everyone will buy it. it shifts the problem into the hands of congress, where it has a strong chance of becoming embroiled in the larger immigration legislation.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 21:22 (seven years ago)
White House senior policy adviser Stephen Miller has all but become the face of the issue, a development that even supporters of Trump’s “zero-tolerance” position say is damaging the White House. “Stephen actually enjoys seeing those pictures at the border,” an outside White House adviser said. “He’s a twisted guy, the way he was raised and picked on. There’s always been a way he’s gone about this. He’s Waffen-SS.”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06/stephen-miller-family-separation-white-house
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 21:39 (seven years ago)
While attending Santa Monica High School, Miller began appearing on conservative talk radio.[22][20] In 2002, at the age of 16, Miller wrote a letter to the editor of the Santa Monica Outlook, criticizing his school's response to 9/11 in which he stated that "Osama Bin Laden would feel very welcome at Santa Monica High School."[22][25] Miller was in the habit of "riling up his fellow [high school] classmates with controversial statements"[26] and telling Latino students to speak only English.[23][26][27][28]
"the way he was raised and picked on"
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 21:44 (seven years ago)
He actually manages to make DT seem likeable in comparison
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 21:47 (seven years ago)
he'll just say that congress has to act.
Based on the House, he gets to eat that too.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 21:52 (seven years ago)
Oh here's something fun
WSJ scoop: Federal authorities have subpoenaed the publisher of the National Enquirer for records related to its 50K payment to a former Playboy model for the rights to her story alleging an affair w/Trump, as part of the broader Cohen investigation.https://t.co/JDNfaPhg1M— Rebecca Ballhaus (@rebeccaballhaus) June 20, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 21:54 (seven years ago)
https://www.vox.com/2018/6/20/17485488/executive-order-immigration-trump-families-together
Good summary of the EO.
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 22:14 (seven years ago)
“Stephen actually enjoys seeing those pictures at the border,” an outside White House adviser said. “He’s a twisted guy, the way he was raised and picked on. There’s always been a way he’s gone about this. He’s Waffen-SS.”
, while arranging his collars
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 22:41 (seven years ago)
"With the nation's attention rightly fixated on President Donald Trump's horrific treatment of immigrant children, House Republicans on Tuesday quietly unveiled their 2019 budget proposal that calls for $537 billion in cuts to Medicare, $1.5 trillion in cuts to Medicaid, and four billion in cuts to Social Security over the next decade in an effort to pay for their deficit-exploding tax cuts for the wealthy."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/06/19/morally-bankrupt-after-tax-cuts-richest-house-gop-unveils-54-trillion-attack-nations
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 22:50 (seven years ago)
54-trillion-attack-nations
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 22:53 (seven years ago)
I’m sure alone in never having heard of the term “tactical pants” until now and no one else thinks that’s weird.
https://interc.pt/2yubiXH
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 22:55 (seven years ago)
xp That the white supremacist response album to Public Enemy?
― Martin Landau Ballet (Leee), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 22:56 (seven years ago)
William Gibson's book Zero History deals extensively with military styles bleeding over into consumer fashion, and the masculine insecurity that drives the market. Pruitt seems like a very insecure specimen to me.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 23:14 (seven years ago)
on yr lesser american television stations are many commercials for tactical sunglasses, tactical flashlights and tactical lighters, any of which could be vital in a tactical situation
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 23:40 (seven years ago)
Those cargo pants with zippers at the knees that the guy won’t use despite it being 100 degrees outside, those are tactical pants
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 23:43 (seven years ago)
Oh yeah. I don't have cable, I have a digital antenna, and half the channels I get are constantly running marathons of torture-porn shows like Criminal Minds, or Clint Eastwood movies, and those are half the commercials - the rest are for catheters and walkers.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 23:48 (seven years ago)
Try joining massdrop because you innocently wanted a pair of the special black Porta Pros. 90% of what’s on offer from them are these ridiculously militarized versions of every item imaginable.
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 23:48 (seven years ago)
oh god EDC cult
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 23:50 (seven years ago)
after trying and winning at travelling for 2 weeks, with hiking and running in a single carry-on, i'm...ready for zip-up pant legs. *cries*
― Hunt3r, Thursday, 21 June 2018 00:00 (seven years ago)
Crowd chants "Space force!" at Trump rally in Duluth, Minnesota. https://t.co/lFSRt1oUv6 pic.twitter.com/9SdAyfDbml— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) June 21, 2018
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 21 June 2018 00:57 (seven years ago)
yeah, sure, legal battles are just as easy for the president to win as trade wars!
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 June 2018 01:02 (seven years ago)
[url=https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/20/merger-education-labor-departments-641084]Good evening!/url]
The Trump administration plans to advocate a merger of the Education and Labor departments as part of a sweeping government overhaul, according to two individuals familiar with the proposal who declined to be named because it’s not yet public.
The new combined agency, if approved by Congress, would be part of a broader government reorganization plan that could be announced as soon as Thursday, POLITICO reported. Mick Mulvaney, director of the OMB, has been working on the reorganization plan since his confirmation more than a year ago.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 June 2018 01:04 (seven years ago)
I used to specify 'peacefully, in his sleep' but I will take it any way we can get it at this point. Fucking enough already.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 01:08 (seven years ago)
It seems like every corporation that is bogged down and spinning its wheels rolls out a new org chart and claims it will solve everything. Next, he'll redesign the Presidential Seal, maybe having the eagle holding cruise missiles instead of arrows, and putting an evil glint in its eye. Because logo redesign is just about the lowest rung you can reach when you are flailing and failing.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 June 2018 01:13 (seven years ago)
maybe having the eagle holding cruise missiles instead of arrows
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 21 June 2018 02:08 (seven years ago)
wait. wait a second. i know it's easy to drift over stuff like this, but consider what happened here:
Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., approached Ryan during a vote and began an animated discussion that lasted roughly half a minute. Both men pointed fingers at each other and reporters in the gallery could hear Meadows say, "I'm done! I'm done!" Meadows then turned and walked away while Ryan resumed chatting with other members.Sources tell Fox News that the dispute stemmed from confusion over which of two immigration bills the House is expected to consider ThursdayThe more conservative legislation has been dubbed "Goodlatte," after the bill's author, Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va. But a second bill, commonly called the "compromise" bill, has also been referred to as "Goodlatte," since he’s a sponsor of that package as well. Notably, House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., rebranded the compromise bill "the president's bill" instead of the "leadership" bill.
Sources tell Fox News that the dispute stemmed from confusion over which of two immigration bills the House is expected to consider Thursday
The more conservative legislation has been dubbed "Goodlatte," after the bill's author, Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va. But a second bill, commonly called the "compromise" bill, has also been referred to as "Goodlatte," since he’s a sponsor of that package as well. Notably, House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., rebranded the compromise bill "the president's bill" instead of the "leadership" bill.
i mean, we all know the senate is dysfunctional, particularly whatever is going on in the republican party. but there are two separate bills that both had the nickname "Goodlatte", and it very possibly caused confusion that led to mark meadows yelling at paul ryan in public, which is a priori a funny and good thing, i admit.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 June 2018 02:48 (seven years ago)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/20/livid-rep-mark-meadows-yells-at-speaker-paul-ryan-on-house-floor.html
surely even fox news readers have to pause over this. in what organization do two competing and very similar ideas get assigned the same dumbass name?
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 June 2018 02:49 (seven years ago)
Costello: Well, all I'm trying to find out is what's the guy's name on first base?
― j., Thursday, 21 June 2018 02:52 (seven years ago)
and now that i think of it, last night i was listening to an NPR interview with Goodlatte, and i was laughing because they were like "uh, so you're sponsoring two different bills, one that is more conservative, one that is seen as more of a moderate bill - which of the two do you support now?" and he was non-committal, saying that he supported both and that should be obvious since he was a sponsor of both. and the interviewer pressed him a bit, like "don't you think you should support one over the other so that it has a better chance of passage?" and he doubled-down, no, both bills are good. obviously he just wanted his Goodlatte bill to be the one that solved the crisis.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 June 2018 02:54 (seven years ago)
welcome to GoodLatte, home of the GoodLatte, can i take your executive order
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 21 June 2018 02:58 (seven years ago)
Reality is finally stretched so thin that we barely even acknowledge that the major players have ott Pynchonesque names no one would've accepted as seriously belonging to actual people a couple years before.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 03:26 (seven years ago)
Ty Cobb. Remember him? That happened. Can't wait to see what role Euripides Burgerking winds up playing in this apocalyptic saga.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 03:28 (seven years ago)
the mooch
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 June 2018 03:29 (seven years ago)
Michael Pemulis or Ann Kittenplan is gonna crop up on the national scene any day now
― valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 21 June 2018 03:38 (seven years ago)
Newsweek reports:
During his controversial meeting with leaders of the G-7 less than two weeks ago, President Donald Trump allegedly threw two pieces of Starburst candies on the table in front of German Chancellor Angela Merkel, saying “Here, Angela. Don’t say I never give you anything.”
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 June 2018 03:57 (seven years ago)
95% chance they were a lemon and an orange
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2018 04:03 (seven years ago)
Strange that Trump acts out the nihilism so many of us feel in this country. I fucking hate that guy's guts, but I feel that way about how this country's become... just throw up a huge middle finger.
For him, it's a performance, I'm sure heavily researched by his boys down at ... now... Data Propria.
― funzone76, Thursday, 21 June 2018 04:06 (seven years ago)
Democrats/opposition suck dick at that kind of psychological marketing research. That shit works. They're in the stone age with that stuff.
― funzone76, Thursday, 21 June 2018 04:07 (seven years ago)
Hi larry
― sleeve, Thursday, 21 June 2018 04:18 (seven years ago)
I ain't no larry, this comes from experience working on successful campaigns involving Trump simpaticants. Cuz I'm a conflicted, mercenary fuck.
Heed my words, baby.
― funzone76, Thursday, 21 June 2018 04:21 (seven years ago)
Christ, here we go again.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 04:30 (seven years ago)
Here we go again with what? Bringing hard won goodies to you people? Bah!
I'll just disappear into the shadows like I know I should, and stick to the Erotic Thriller's thread.
― funzone76, Thursday, 21 June 2018 04:33 (seven years ago)
"I don't want to rip families apart. I don't want to be sending parents away from children. I don't want to see the deportation force that Donald has talked about in action in our country."—Hillary Clinton, 3rd Presidential Debate, 10/19/16You all knew what was on the ballot. pic.twitter.com/oMvK9wB982— Ethan Grey (@_EthanGrey) June 21, 2018
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 21 June 2018 04:46 (seven years ago)
That shit works
It works if your only political goal is stuffing as much money into the pockets of yourself and your cronies as you can while spewing out a steady stream of incoherent nonsense and reducing government to a shambles. Because all it can do is distract easily distracted people; it can never be the basis of a government by and for the people.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 June 2018 05:21 (seven years ago)
Hey America, do it like we do!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/21/dear-america-we-can-teach-you-about-cruelty-to-refugees-love-australia
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 21 June 2018 05:21 (seven years ago)
oh, and I'll try not to feed Mr. Appleton any further. he ain't nothing but a hound dog.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 June 2018 05:23 (seven years ago)
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/styles/cd_large/public/headlines/gettyimages-9064880321_0.jpg
The prospect of taking $5.4 billion out of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security appears to to be sending Paul Ryan fully Two-Face.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 21 June 2018 09:15 (seven years ago)
bah, sorry for hueg
Also sorry for billion - it's 5.4 trillion of course.
Huh, it's not playing that well on Fox News either: http://thehill.com/homenews/media/393208-geraldo-rivera-to-hannity-when-did-we-become-the-party-of-child-abuse
― Frederik B, Thursday, 21 June 2018 09:18 (seven years ago)
They've had Geraldo serve as the one who goes against the party line on immigration in the past (his famous screaming match with O’Reilly). My understanding is the network is pretty much on board with defending the policy.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 21 June 2018 11:50 (seven years ago)
Yeah sure, perhaps I'm just naive that it would actually matter when someone says it's straight up child abuse.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:29 (seven years ago)
Sandy Hook already proved they don't care about kids.
― Simon H., Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:33 (seven years ago)
Ronald Reagan hating his kids proves they don't care about kids
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:36 (seven years ago)
The July cover of @TIME: "Welcome to America." https://t.co/fg85ZIZWDM pic.twitter.com/4Do7ssmn7D— NBC News (@NBCNews) June 21, 2018
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:38 (seven years ago)
Trump, thinking he sees a KFC extra crispy thigh instead of a child.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:39 (seven years ago)
WOW
― Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Thursday, 21 June 2018 13:25 (seven years ago)
I might actually have to buy Time magazine
― Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Thursday, 21 June 2018 13:26 (seven years ago)
Trump will love that cover because he will see nothing but his own picture.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 13:28 (seven years ago)
probably the most covers ever
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 June 2018 13:31 (seven years ago)
"do I look thin and handsome" xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 21 June 2018 13:33 (seven years ago)
Could just see the outraged masses buying Time to get the story behind the cover and trump taking it all to heart as the distribution numbers must be a positive since it had his face on the cover.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 21 June 2018 14:59 (seven years ago)
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, June 21, 2018 4:46 AM (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh fucking spare me this ignorant sanctimony
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 June 2018 16:16 (seven years ago)
4real
― gbx, Thursday, 21 June 2018 16:21 (seven years ago)
apparently 1600 ICE employees got doxed today
bout to see some real interesting social media posts soon I think
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2018 16:51 (seven years ago)
She didn't want to send parents away from children she just wanted to be sure kids got shipped back to Honduras to risk death at the hands of the death squads she helped bring back to the country, foh xp
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 June 2018 16:54 (seven years ago)
the archive.is link I posted earlier still works FYI xp
― Simon H., Thursday, 21 June 2018 16:54 (seven years ago)
Well, the good news is she lost, so we don't need to worry about that scenario. These people are safe and sound in US detention facilities, no doubt getting the best treatment possible, kind of like summer camp.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 21 June 2018 16:58 (seven years ago)
Moodles one of my closest friends was just held in a detention center for 3 months so don't fucking talk to me like I don't know what I'm talking about
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:02 (seven years ago)
and so the PR kicks in :
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/21/melania-trump-family-child-separation-detention-centre-visit-surprise
― mark e, Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:03 (seven years ago)
I'm from McAllen Texas. I grew up with shoeless undocumented kids with dirt floors. Don't you dare fucking smarm me over this. xp
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:03 (seven years ago)
Ok, I don't doubt your sincerity, but is it possible for once to resist the urge to let all the rubes on here know that Hillary was just as bad, if not worse?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:06 (seven years ago)
no
― j., Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:10 (seven years ago)
I agree with President Donald Trump Moodles, relitigating Hillary Clinton's record seems like a real constructive project at this particular juncture, let's dig in.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:14 (seven years ago)
"for once" mm you're right, this is absolutely my consistent posting style xp
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:16 (seven years ago)
i'm droppin it, i'm over it
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:18 (seven years ago)
Presidential debates are all ignorant sanctimony and no substance, no one here would disagree. I would be more interested in hearing about McAllen and your friend who got detained for 3 months.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:22 (seven years ago)
Ok, fair is fair, I don't consider this your regular posting style, and I know you were away for a while. There have been a lot of threads over the past couple years that have devolved into some variation of this argument, and it's really enough.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:24 (seven years ago)
let me devolve for you, M
Immigrant rights groups must take full advantage of liberals' raucous disgust with Trump's deportations before the next Dem president is elected and liberals go back to sleep.— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) June 17, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:27 (seven years ago)
thread connections
No one knows what’s going on. It’s a goat rodeo. https://t.co/AmHs39n0OA— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) June 21, 2018
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:31 (seven years ago)
hoos is actually one of the few itt that actually gets out there and does activist shit (unlike myself)
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:36 (seven years ago)
Morbs, if this keeps people focused and sparks further change, I think that's great. I've already stated that I'm worried that yesterday's EO is going to lead to diminished attention.
If someday, Democrats find themselves back in power, then by all means, hold their feet to the fire. I just don't see any real benefit to the endless rub-ins for depressed Clinton supporters at this particular point in time.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:42 (seven years ago)
ums, that's absolutely true
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:44 (seven years ago)
When I get aggro, I call my mother to yell at her about the whole family voting Trump. Yesterday was a bad day so of course I called her. She brought up Hillary. I was like "HOW DARE YOU"! My poor immigrant mother. I should send her a new purse.
― Yerac, Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)
Make a donation in her name tbh
― ian, Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:58 (seven years ago)
When I was considering trolling my family on our last holiday together immediately after the election I almost made a donation to BLM in my dad's name. But thought he might have a stroke.
― Yerac, Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:07 (seven years ago)
would have been a stroke of genius imo
― Simon H., Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:13 (seven years ago)
make up a certificate that names her a lieutenant in good standing in the antifa supersoldier army, get it framed and have it delivered to her house imo
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:15 (seven years ago)
very psyched to have a piece in that issue of TIME
― maura, Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:17 (seven years ago)
(it's about the beyoncé and jay-z album)
nice!
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:17 (seven years ago)
xpost My mom would not appreciate any of that. Despite being in the US for over 45 years it's like she is fresh off the boat. She only watches asian TV now that Donohue and soap operas are off the air.
― Yerac, Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:18 (seven years ago)
xpost NICE!
― Yerac, Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:19 (seven years ago)
congrats maura!!
― Simon H., Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:20 (seven years ago)
excellent maura.get several copies, frame them and given them as xmas presents.
― mark e, Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:25 (seven years ago)
I know optics mean zero to this administration but how are they so bad at it
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5871221/Melania-Trump-wears-jacket-REALLY-DONT-CARE-U-visit-immigrant-children.html
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:27 (seven years ago)
"Let them eat cake."
― earlnash, Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:29 (seven years ago)
What the actual complete and total fuck right there.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:30 (seven years ago)
classic Antoinetteism
xxp haha
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:30 (seven years ago)
Also, congrats, maura!
But seriously rn.
Great piece, Maura. http://time.com/5316426/everything-is-love-beyonce-jay-z/
― Yerac, Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:31 (seven years ago)
Does Melania not know how to read and her stylist is trolling her???
― Yerac, Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:32 (seven years ago)
god part of me is thinking she did that intentionally to sabotage her shitty husband, i mean i have no idea what the actual hell kind of other reason she would wear that.
― omar little, Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:40 (seven years ago)
maybe she doesn't read her clothes the way some ppl don't know lyrics
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:41 (seven years ago)
truly Melania peaked when we all thought she was dead.
― evol j, Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:43 (seven years ago)
the original Melania is dead
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:44 (seven years ago)
killed by a cyber-bully no doubt
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:46 (seven years ago)
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, June 21, 2018 1:41 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
So embarrassed to just now realize that I wore my 'EAT SHIT' hot pants to work today.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
not a great choice for your job serving lunch at the sewage processing plant imo
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:56 (seven years ago)
zing
Crisis actor spotted at Texas child migrant detention center https://t.co/fFZdd4XyT7 (via @latimesopinion) pic.twitter.com/PuFihaUOmr— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) June 21, 2018
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:58 (seven years ago)
lmao off that jacket is real? i saw it for a second and thought it was a shop
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:01 (seven years ago)
her spokeswoman already commented on it, could've just said "FAKE NEWS" but now they're fucked
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:03 (seven years ago)
i want to know who made the 'welcome first lady' signs for this unexpected visit
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:04 (seven years ago)
That LA Times tweet is a thing of deep and abiding beauty.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)
Border patrol agents question drivers at I-95 checkpoint about citizenship
is america's vacationland is getting more scrutiny, or is this normal?
― Hunt3r, Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:13 (seven years ago)
The road north out of the Rio Grande Valley & into open Texas chokes through Falfurrias, where there's been a CBP checkpoint since before I was born; I'd never seen a surprise-checkpoint elsewhere til this admin started.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:20 (seven years ago)
One would think that the very fact of this administration's existence is becoming a deterrent to immigration of any sort. Not to mention citizenship.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:25 (seven years ago)
not to mention population reduction as I have considered more than once the advantages of being dead in the last 1 1/2 years
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:31 (seven years ago)
can confirm that the Border Patrol in Texas in the 90s would pull us over leaving Big Bend and challenge the citizenship of everyone in the car with a Hispanic name.
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:35 (seven years ago)
Politico reports:
National security adviser John Bolton will visit Moscow next week to discuss a potential meeting between President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, the White House said on Thursday morning.
“On June 25-27, U.S. National Security Advisor John Bolton will meet with U.S. allies in London and Rome to discuss national security issues, and travel to Moscow to discuss a potential meeting between Presidents Trump and Putin,” National Security Council spokesman Garrett Marquis said in a tweet.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:36 (seven years ago)
lol this is actually real
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgPQVjyU0AEk2cW.jpg
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)
Very evocative, imo. I can vividly imagine scalping that dude.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:40 (seven years ago)
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/tucson.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/c4/fc4c7367-6adb-5ece-8fdc-16a4803ea76c/4fb8449432e1d.image.jpg
why do these guys always try to avatar themselves into the most interesting man in the world?
― omar little, Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)
*reads conservo agitprop*
yknow the avatar isn't really his biggest prob but yeah seems correlative
― Hunt3r, Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:54 (seven years ago)
i already saw that scalping scene in Westworld
― akm, Thursday, 21 June 2018 20:11 (seven years ago)
don't see how "I REALLY DONT CARE. DO U?" isn't the July thread title right now
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2018 20:12 (seven years ago)
1000% agreement.
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 21 June 2018 20:22 (seven years ago)
it’s only june 21st, there’ll be at least four or five more titles to choose from before the next thread begins
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 June 2018 20:34 (seven years ago)
that's true I thought "womp womp" was a shoo-in and now look
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2018 20:37 (seven years ago)
it's 80 degrees where Melanie came from and 90 degrees where shes going so there was no reason for her to have a jacket on why is everything surrounding this administration so deeply weird
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2018 20:40 (seven years ago)
you will never "runway" with a utilitarian attitude like that
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 June 2018 20:43 (seven years ago)
iiuc trolling big part of media strategy for some people in that administration. xpost
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 21 June 2018 20:43 (seven years ago)
I think people are spot on them wanting people to be enraged by Melania and provide some feckless cunt redux. Everyone is a Russian troll now.
― Yerac, Thursday, 21 June 2018 20:45 (seven years ago)
US politics really just about zings now.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 21 June 2018 20:47 (seven years ago)
I learned Medina and her family were deported today.She came to FL as a kid escaping war. Her parents own a small business, she graduated JROTC, wanted to join the US military, & sang the National Anthem at events. They were, in every sense, contributing to America.Just sad https://t.co/TKMMNSG9Oq— Steve Schale (@steveschale) June 21, 2018
good job america
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 21 June 2018 20:50 (seven years ago)
The Trump administration wanted the images on cable news of the First Lady visiting Upbring New Hope Children’s Shelter. They staged quite a photo-op at the shelter. The problem is the White House then canceled the trip to the real detention center where children are being caged.
FFS I know there are plenty of talented PR people with no souls they can hire to do a much better job at this shit.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:08 (seven years ago)
but then again as stated up thread by someone their PR strategy is to be horrible people so they are doing great i guess
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:11 (seven years ago)
A bunch of US mayors attempted to visit a detention center, were unsurprisingly denied entry
https://austin.curbed.com/2018/6/21/17489634/austin-mayor-council-detention-immigration
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:21 (seven years ago)
wait hahaha wtf with melania's jacket????
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:22 (seven years ago)
does anyone else think it looks like something out Kanye's clothing lines ?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:23 (seven years ago)
it would not surprise me at all if it is
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:24 (seven years ago)
it's a $39 Zara jacket
― sleeve, Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:24 (seven years ago)
melania's jacket is where i finally question whether we're living in a simulation
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:25 (seven years ago)
well played steve bannon
I learned Medina and her family were deported today.
I honestly read this as Melania. I just don't even know anymore.
― even in your onion (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:25 (seven years ago)
If jackets are going to polarize the nation, tradition requires that they say either "Sharks" or "Jets."
― ~ cows come home (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:27 (seven years ago)
*snap*
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:28 (seven years ago)
fucking zara. never underestimate these chumps’ cheapness
― maura, Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:41 (seven years ago)
^^ my friend who caught that notes "maybe she was paid to wear it"
― sleeve, Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:44 (seven years ago)
i just can't with the jacket wtf wtf wtf
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:48 (seven years ago)
I've spent the last couple years desperately seeking any evidence that we haven't all been unwittingly Lawnmower Manned, without much success.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:53 (seven years ago)
BREAKING: Trump administration clamps down on media access to USGS scientists. Many scientists will no longer be able to talk directly to the media without first obtaining approval, including for breaking news such as earthquakes.#ScienceNotSilencehttps://t.co/aY9X1Ec5mo— Lucky Tran (@luckytran) June 21, 2018
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:55 (seven years ago)
sure, sounds legit
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:58 (seven years ago)
“I REALLY DON’T CARE, DO U?” written on the back of Melania’s jacket, refers to the Fake News Media. Melania has learned how dishonest they are, and she truly no longer cares!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 21, 2018
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:00 (seven years ago)
Why Doesn't Donny Care?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:01 (seven years ago)
Seriously: choking on a mouthful of incinerated steak, massive intracranial bleeding sustained from a staircase fall when no one was there to hold his hand, sepsis from somehow accidentally slamming his dick in the Oval Office door jamb and failing to get it treated...I'll take whatever fate decides to dole out at this point so long as it's terminal.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:03 (seven years ago)
okay she didn’t die she just had a month-long ludovico technique treatment
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:03 (seven years ago)
She's been to Lake Laogai.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:06 (seven years ago)
Keep in mind her own press officer gave a completely different explanation earlier.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:11 (seven years ago)
i don't understand what is happening in that trump tweet
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:12 (seven years ago)
the brain worms have spread throughout his entire body
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:14 (seven years ago)
what she's trying to say is they betray her, they didn't keep their promise, they trick her, and she doesn't care anymore.
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:17 (seven years ago)
Jesus, if even one kid is permanently taken from his parent, this may be the lasting shame of the most shameful people ever in charge of this country.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:18 (seven years ago)
As we all tend to do when we're absolutely unconcerned about a thing that doesn't bother us in the slightest, President Trump is once again loudly broadcasting how little he and those in his circle care about something (which in this case would be the lies of the Fake News Media, and definitely not the attention being drawn to Melania's insane wardrobe choice).
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:20 (seven years ago)
They should have this song at the rallies in future:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLpfbcXTeo8
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:21 (seven years ago)
Josh, I'd say that eventuality is a near-certainty, and for probably far more than one child. And these monsters won't feel the slightest twinge of shame or regret.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:22 (seven years ago)
Naw they should play this song at his rallies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wbAn6Z_4QI
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:23 (seven years ago)
First lady Melania Trump on Thursday visited unaccompanied migrant children in a shelter in McAllen, Texas, a sign of goodwill and compassion even as her husband refuses to address the thousands of families already separated as a result of his “zero tolerance” prosecution policy.Yet, the jacket Melania Trump wore on her way to McAllen quickly caused a stir. Bitch Media identified the coat the first lady was wearing as she climbed the stairs to her plane: “I Really Don’t Care, Do U?” it reads.
Yet, the jacket Melania Trump wore on her way to McAllen quickly caused a stir.
Bitch Media identified the coat the first lady was wearing as she climbed the stairs to her plane: “I Really Don’t Care, Do U?” it reads.
a) she didn't realize the jacket had writing on it or forgot about itb) she honestly didn't think anyone would make a connection between "I Really Don't Care" and her visit with migrant children. (spokesperson's explanation)c) she wants to send a message to everyone that she no longer cares about the fake news media, because of their dishonesty (trump's explanation, i think?)d) she wants to send a message that "I really don't care" about something else (the migrants? but then why did she visit with them?) e)?
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:23 (seven years ago)
but then again,
Do U?
so bizarre
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)
might just have to go paint a big "Y" on the back of my jean jacket and hit the streets
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:25 (seven years ago)
I mean, I don't think it's any more complicated than a general statement of intent wrt engaging with the world-at-large.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:26 (seven years ago)
If anything, it's refreshingly honest.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:27 (seven years ago)
her spokesperson:
Today’s visit w the children in Texas impacted @flotus greatly. If media would spend their time & energy on her actions & efforts to help kids - rather than speculate & focus on her wardrobe - we could get so much accomplished on behalf of children. #SheCares #ItsJustAJacket— Stephanie Grisham (@StephGrisham45) June 21, 2018
interesting angle, this is all the media's fault for drawing attention to the gigantic words written on the back of her jacket. and in fact, if the media would stop paying so much attention to what she wears all the time, maybe we would make some real progress with these incarcerated children. but they can't, because they're too busy covering her wardrobe.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:33 (seven years ago)
e) she can't read or write English
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:34 (seven years ago)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44570688
Hours after the photo of her departure outfit went viral, she again donned the jacket to disembark the plane at an Air Force base outside Washington DC.
She ignored question from reporters as she entered the presidential motorcade.
the old are they really dumb or are they evil question emerges again
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:35 (seven years ago)
not defending Melania, but I thought the jacket's message was supposed to be 'I don't really care about being fashion forward, this is a $39 jacket' and that this whole thing was just cluelessness and bad optics
― Dan S, Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:41 (seven years ago)
Except... she continued to wear it
― circa1916, Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:42 (seven years ago)
I've lost all ability to give anyone close to Trump any benefit of the doubt at this point.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:42 (seven years ago)
yeah, the vox story adds this detail:
Though the first lady arrived at Andrews Air Force base in Maryland wearing the jacket, by the time the plane landed in McAllen, Texas, she had changed into a far more innocuous cream colored jacket instead.In a rather brazen move, however, she changed back into the jacket upon landing back in Maryland later in the afternoon, despite the swift criticism and the fact that the temperature was 81 degrees. This time around, photographers were also given full view of the offending garment.
In a rather brazen move, however, she changed back into the jacket upon landing back in Maryland later in the afternoon, despite the swift criticism and the fact that the temperature was 81 degrees. This time around, photographers were also given full view of the offending garment.
https://i.imgur.com/hyjw3Tw.png
#SheCares
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:44 (seven years ago)
yeah maybe you guys are right
― Dan S, Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:45 (seven years ago)
nobody would do that on accident, period
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:47 (seven years ago)
by accident i mean, I am not 7 years old
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:48 (seven years ago)
You mean to tell me that a woman who spent her entire career paying attention to her clothes and who's current job consists almost entirely of putting on appearances didn't know what the fuck she was wearing— FALLOUT 69 (NICE) (@dubsteppenwolf) June 21, 2018
― gbx, Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:49 (seven years ago)
helluva way to find out that melania can’t read
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:53 (seven years ago)
if someone wrote a gigantic message on the back of my jacket i'd probably be google translating that shit before wearing it outside
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:56 (seven years ago)
― Dan S, Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:56 (seven years ago)
when you google translate “I Really Don’t Care, Do U?” into slovenian, it comes out"Res ne skrbi, naredim U?". if you translate that back into english, it's
"Do not worry, I do U?"
this is all getting sicker than anyone could have imagined
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:59 (seven years ago)
So the jacket *is* an off-brand MAD foldout.
― Martin Landau Ballet (Leee), Thursday, 21 June 2018 23:02 (seven years ago)
Like I almost want to believe this is some strategy to get the current narrative out of the news but this plays directly into the “these people don’t care about kids” thing and plus we know no one in this administration talks to each other
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2018 23:05 (seven years ago)
Sometimes when I am volunteering at my kid's old elementary school I ask a kindergartner or 1st grader what, without them looking, their shirt says. Much of the time they've forgotten or didn't pay attention or otherwise have no idea their shirt says "Batman" or "Unicorns are awesome" or something like that. It's kind of adorable. In a child.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2018 23:10 (seven years ago)
“Pop quiz, hotshot”
― omar little, Thursday, 21 June 2018 23:13 (seven years ago)
When he's right, he's right.
One of the worst and most boring political pundits on television is @krauthammer. A totally overrated clown who speaks without knowing facts— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 5, 2015
― Simon H., Thursday, 21 June 2018 23:15 (seven years ago)
Y Kant Melania Read?
― womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 June 2018 23:28 (seven years ago)
wow, Trump otm
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 June 2018 23:29 (seven years ago)
Yeah oddly that just brings to mind that Krauthammer’s only good take ever may be the “Trump is a threat to democracy” one.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 21 June 2018 23:35 (seven years ago)
Meanwhile, who needs politics to live the good life?
https://www.facebook.com/508911809136285/posts/2096893513671432/
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 21 June 2018 23:47 (seven years ago)
some garbage from the nyt
So who was the target of that not-so-hidden message? That the first lady had shed the jacket by the time she disembarked in Texas may indicate it was not, in fact, the families at the heart of the immigration issue. Besides, there are numerous alternative possibilities, when you start to think about it....Or maybe, just maybe, it was a message for those of us who like to read messages into her clothes. One that said, “I’m going to wear whatever I want and I don’t care what you think about it.” After all, she wore the jacket again deplaning later at Andrews — wore it unapologetically knowing all the hoo-ha it had caused, the confusion and umbrage, the distraction from what she said was her core message of compassion. Wore it as if to give direct proof to the words on her back. That would be kind of meta.
...Or maybe, just maybe, it was a message for those of us who like to read messages into her clothes. One that said, “I’m going to wear whatever I want and I don’t care what you think about it.” After all, she wore the jacket again deplaning later at Andrews — wore it unapologetically knowing all the hoo-ha it had caused, the confusion and umbrage, the distraction from what she said was her core message of compassion. Wore it as if to give direct proof to the words on her back. That would be kind of meta.
so maybe, just maybe, she finally decided to word-attack those of us who like to read messages into her clothes, and decided to do it on the way to the visit to the shelter, perceptions be damned, and then again later that day after it had already pissed off and confused. fuck the timing, this attack against the message readers of clothing must commence ASAP
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 June 2018 23:59 (seven years ago)
jesus who wrote that?
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 22 June 2018 00:15 (seven years ago)
maybe, just maybe
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 June 2018 00:17 (seven years ago)
Hey guys, maybe Melania Trump, who chose to marry one of the most wicked and repulsive people on earth, is also a bad person and, to the extent she’s ever discussed at all, should no longer receive the already far too generous benefit of the doubt
― Dan I., Friday, 22 June 2018 00:20 (seven years ago)
Like u seriously ever entertained the thought that she actually did give a shit about immigrant kids!?
― Dan I., Friday, 22 June 2018 00:21 (seven years ago)
of course not
anyway: http://www.santafedreamersproject.org/immigration-101-podcasts/
― gbx, Friday, 22 June 2018 00:26 (seven years ago)
Found it in questionable taste that one of the sites for a Tender Age centre was on Emancipation Avenue.
― Stevolende, Friday, 22 June 2018 00:26 (seven years ago)
(sorry for the street teaming but 4llegr4 and I have been friends for nearly 20 yrs and this stuff is important)
― gbx, Friday, 22 June 2018 00:28 (seven years ago)
Trump favorable ratings (%)Fox viewers: 82Everyone else: 25(Suffolk) https://t.co/qioNBOEVYm— Adrian Gray (@adrian_gray) June 22, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 June 2018 02:19 (seven years ago)
seen it posited elsewhere that the Trump admin is deliberately trying to provoke reactions at this point, between this, Ivanka's pic with her kid right as the baby jail story broke, and Miller & Nielsen going to eat at Mexican restaurants where they know they'll get shouted at. perhaps they saw the Sam Bee & Al Pacino stuff as wins for them and want to portray their opposition as vulgar, shouting animals, especially knowing that publications like the NYT will use it to "both sides" away the atrocities of this administration. seems plausible but then again, assuming these guys have a coherent shared plan at all is probably a mistake
― frogbs, Friday, 22 June 2018 02:35 (seven years ago)
These dudes have a super, highly researched and tested plan. Why the hell do you think they've been so successful?
― funzone76, Friday, 22 June 2018 02:38 (seven years ago)
Miller & Nielsen going to eat at Mexican restaurants where they know they'll get shouted at
don't buy this shit at all, sorry
― Simon H., Friday, 22 June 2018 02:43 (seven years ago)
pls stop attributing 4d chess strategy to these oblivious, cruel morons
― funzone76, Friday, June 22, 2018 3:38 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sorry but this is a terrible take, like the left-wing version of "crisis actors."
they're successful because the u.s. is largely a stupid racist place and they're stupid racists
― i want to get cancer (map), Friday, 22 June 2018 02:47 (seven years ago)
Yeah.
― funzone76, Friday, 22 June 2018 02:48 (seven years ago)
I'm sure it took a great deal of forethought and careful planning for these monsters to all get on the same page re: behaving like monsters.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 02:58 (seven years ago)
You're right, I'm just acting like a drunken wacko here. Probably should stay away from political shit from here on out.
― funzone76, Friday, 22 June 2018 03:01 (seven years ago)
Makes me act all crazy. Trump reminds me of my father. Really gets to me.
― funzone76, Friday, 22 June 2018 03:02 (seven years ago)
Go sleep it off, Larry.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 03:03 (seven years ago)
^ sounds like a highly researched and tested plan that's bound to be successful
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 22 June 2018 03:03 (seven years ago)
idk when Bannon explains that they enacted the travel ban on a Friday afternoon to draw the maximum amount of protestors and Miller talks about how having Kiddie Concentration Camp all over the news is actually good for them it kinda makes me think that these guys may be doing this kind of shit deliberately
I mean I highly doubt that Melania is in on it but this jacket thing is just so mindboggling and strange given how deliberate it obviously was
― frogbs, Friday, 22 June 2018 03:04 (seven years ago)
Occam would suggest: Melania is a monster.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 03:10 (seven years ago)
I'm just glad we can finally, once and for all, put that "maybe she's secretly decent" shit behind us for fucking ever.
― Simon H., Friday, 22 June 2018 03:11 (seven years ago)
it is important to this administration that Americans remain as divided as possible
― cr.ht (crüt), Friday, 22 June 2018 03:12 (seven years ago)
Melania is basically Carmella Soprano. She may not be the one who's pulling the trigger but she sure has enjoyed the fruits of that trigger pulling.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 03:18 (seven years ago)
Godspeed to everyone out there doxing ICE agents, setting up shop in their field offices and obstructing their operations
― Simon H., Friday, 22 June 2018 03:19 (seven years ago)
xp - except all the real fruits she enjoyed were well in place before Trump declared his candidacy. reports that she hates the WH and being FLOTUS seem very believable.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 22 June 2018 03:20 (seven years ago)
Until or unless she literally curb stomps Donnie boy no one should give a fuck about her imho
― Simon H., Friday, 22 June 2018 03:23 (seven years ago)
She is, by design, extremely peripheral to this administration, so yeah, whatever she is or does is probably beneath notice in terms of real US politics.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 22 June 2018 03:25 (seven years ago)
Her primary utility AFAICT is as a galvanizing icon of sociopathic obliviousness so maybe she should just keep it up
― Simon H., Friday, 22 June 2018 03:28 (seven years ago)
They obviously want to make the midterms about immigration/white fear because they 100% believe that's how they won two years ago and they don't understand it was ~also electoral college + Comey. Between now and November that administration is going to trigger plenty of shit of the kind we saw in the past few days, wouldn't be surprised if the african american crime rate is the next thing they will get at for example. It works because Fox has their back no matter what at this point, it keeps that fuckface on 24/7 news cycle, and it keeps the base motivated enough to have leadership GOP on the defensive (who wants to be the next Sanford). No healthy democracy should have such a thing as a large Trump base, to begin with so in normal circumstances it would be a stupid plan, but let's not pretend like they didn't struck gold and they don't have monstrous calculations on how to mine racism and xenophobia in the coming months/years for their benefits. Melania may be in or out of these calculations with her jacket moment (I think she was fwiw), it doesn't matter as much as the White House refusing to make a clear apology and them once again mining the moment and portraying Melania as some sort of conspiracy victim.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 22 June 2018 03:54 (seven years ago)
good post, thanks
― sleeve, Friday, 22 June 2018 03:56 (seven years ago)
Not quite doxxing ICE agents but I approve
https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/Billboard-880-vandalized-make-kids-disappear-ice-13014667.php
https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/3632344_062118-kgo-droneview7-ice-billboard-raw-vid.jpg
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 22 June 2018 05:17 (seven years ago)
It’s kind of dumb to be like ‘immigrants worked minus my faith in the democratic strictures of an oligarchy’ re trump maybe they’ll hit black on black crime again for a greatest hits redux.’
Two things: immigrants aren’t going away, for either the right or the left. Dox ICE on your way to abolishing them. Write on their Facebook pages; their wives’ twitter; their registries. Worry their grandparents.
Second: That middle ground between 5d chess and dumbfoubdery is latching on to a faceless El Salvadoran who can be whoever the country wants: ms13; hope. That chimera has no longer and hasn’t been for some time a super predator in Chi. This is Trump’s play.
Either way, THE DISCOURSE eats its children — it’s a fucking shame that so many are children. Ramp it up, don’t stop, eat DHS.
― lion in winter, Friday, 22 June 2018 08:41 (seven years ago)
ohhhkay?
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 22 June 2018 10:03 (seven years ago)
lion in winter, I can't even imagine what your emotional state must be like at this point, but you're doing heroic work that is greatly appreciated. I greatly appreciate it.
(Mods, is there a way to automatically affix a '(Note: lion in winter is an immigration lawyer in 2018, simultaneous with the presidency of Donald Trump.)' tagline to lion in winter's posts so I can stop getting so IA when someone inevitably responds to him with snark or dismissiveness?)
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 10:26 (seven years ago)
with or without knowledge of what lion in winter does (which is awesome) i thought that was a booming post
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Friday, 22 June 2018 10:42 (seven years ago)
Far out - I was just having trouble parsing it. Maximum respect LIW.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 22 June 2018 10:47 (seven years ago)
A little extra background on Zara, makers of Melania's amazing lib-triggering dreamcoat:
• They had to recall a denim skirt that had a Pepe frog on it• They had to recall a striped shirt with a six-pointed yellow star on the chest• Jared Kushner owes Zara's parent company, Inditex, a lot of money - they have an interest in 666 Fifth Avenue
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 22 June 2018 12:04 (seven years ago)
Zara is also a notorious knockoff fast-fashion label that steals from artists all the time because they (the smaller artists) rarely have the ability to sue
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 22 June 2018 12:26 (seven years ago)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 June 2018 12:28 (seven years ago)
http://www.mtv.com/news/2194501/zara-discrimination-survey/
https://www.xojane.com/fashion/another-zara-racial-discrimination-case
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 June 2018 12:31 (seven years ago)
Republicans should stop wasting their time on Immigration until after we elect more Senators and Congressmen/women in November. Dems are just playing games, have no intention of doing anything to solves this decades old problem. We can pass great legislation after the Red Wave!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 22, 2018
lol red wave
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 22 June 2018 12:40 (seven years ago)
no, carne, the Red Wave
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 June 2018 12:42 (seven years ago)
Is he making yet another disparaging remark about women's whatevers?
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 12:47 (seven years ago)
So while we discuss Melania this horror passed in the House.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 June 2018 12:51 (seven years ago)
I don't know about 4D chess but every time they manage to divert everybody's attention to some witless malfeasance that would seem like a gradeschool, Politics 101 to avoid there seems to be something else they are trying to get done in the background.
― Stevolende, Friday, 22 June 2018 12:55 (seven years ago)
that's every US administration ever
(🎨 by @mshaw8730) pic.twitter.com/DYQTO95J5q— 🌐IPM 💯🏧💍🌈🚀🚩 (@IPM_Prime) June 21, 2018
― Simon H., Friday, 22 June 2018 12:58 (seven years ago)
Dubya looks like Justin Bieber as a man.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 June 2018 13:04 (seven years ago)
Protestors are outside of DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen’s Alexandria townhouse, playing audio of the detained children. She appears to be still be home. pic.twitter.com/akIcxOcM3q— Philip Lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) June 22, 2018
― frogbs, Friday, 22 June 2018 13:23 (seven years ago)
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 June 2018 13:25 (seven years ago)
Bet Nielson is wishing we hadn't pulled out of the UN Human Rights Council about now.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 13:26 (seven years ago)
Good. More of that. And if they think this will just get better when this is over, they should be made wrong.
Was reading a good thread about Ivanka the other day, asking if she is jus deluded, and somehow thinks she really is thought of as reasonable, respected, or smart, or successful, and that this is all just a bad storm that will blow over and allow her to rejoin society as anything less than a pariah. These people are all going to hell, years before they die.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 June 2018 13:32 (seven years ago)
The civility-first assholes haven't quite run out of bad arguments yet
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/let-kirstjen-neilsen-stephen-miller-eat-mexican-food-maybe-way-ncna885571
― Simon H., Friday, 22 June 2018 13:40 (seven years ago)
As I said before all the field ICE/border patrol I have met had histories of domestic abuse/violence allegations. I am sure if they abolish ICE, they can find jobs at their local PD.
― Yerac, Friday, 22 June 2018 13:43 (seven years ago)
Yerac, how many of these guys have you met and why??
― ian, Friday, 22 June 2018 13:53 (seven years ago)
x-post -- from Alfred's farm bill link
The House farm bill would also tighten eligibility criteria under SNAP — changes that would result in some 400,000 households losing SNAP benefits. Thousands of children would also risk losing their enrollment in free and reduced-price school meal programs.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 22 June 2018 13:55 (seven years ago)
I did secret/top secret/sci background checks for several years (irs, dea, fdic, national labs, military, border patrol, ICE, etc). And after 9/11 when they were hiring like crazy. It's complete bullshit that they let the administration/Kushner get away with lying on their forms so many times. We always told them to bring their passports to interviews so we could be sure of dates.
― Yerac, Friday, 22 June 2018 13:59 (seven years ago)
not sure we have a "marketing revolution" threa so I'm just gonna leave this here:
Comrades, we've got the guillotine.
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― sleeve, Friday, 22 June 2018 14:00 (seven years ago)
Is this the bill (SNAP) that had work requirements if your area had lower unemployment rates? ie. urban areas have lower unemployment so there are work requirements. Rural areas did not. You can guess the demographics.
― burzum buddies (brownie), Friday, 22 June 2018 14:03 (seven years ago)
makers of non-functional guillotine jewelry get the guillotine
― ian, Friday, 22 June 2018 14:04 (seven years ago)
These people are all going to hell, years before they die.
Most of these people will be working at think tanks, cable networks, universities etc, just like John Yoo and company.
It's like that, and that's the way it is.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 June 2018 14:05 (seven years ago)
― burzum buddies (brownie), 22. juni 2018 16:03 (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
No, that bill was in Michigan, iirc.
― Frederik B, Friday, 22 June 2018 14:24 (seven years ago)
http://www.trumphotels.org/
― frogbs, Friday, 22 June 2018 14:26 (seven years ago)
I heard a great prediction of Trumps post-Trump from one of the Crooked Media guys, centered on Ivanka but applicable to all. Before all this Ivanka was useless but tolerated, like a lot of rich people. Rich now she is useful, but toxic. Post Trump, she and others will be useless *and* toxic, which will be new territory for these assholes.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 June 2018 14:35 (seven years ago)
one of the friends of Fox and Friends had this to say this morning:
“We can’t let everybody in that wants to be here. These are not, like it or not, these aren’t our kids. Show them compassion. But it’s not like he is doing this to the people of Idaho or Texas. These are people from another country and now people are saying that they are more important than people in our country who are paying taxes and who have needs as well.”
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 June 2018 15:25 (seven years ago)
Really good article on the history of the Italian fascist slang that translates to "I don't care" or "I don't give a fuck."https://overland.org.au/2018/06/a-brief-fascist-history-of-i-dont-care/
― ian, Friday, 22 June 2018 15:27 (seven years ago)
xp (Reopublicans on immigrant kids vs Americans)Sanctimonious, hypocritical bleuurgh. I thought those people paying taxes wanted to cut them as much as possible and get other people to and cut any protection for those other people that they could.Also get other people to do the work which I thought was largely these individuals that are now getting prosecuted for trying to get into the country to get away from the horror that the US has helped create in their own countries. & so on.
― Stevolende, Friday, 22 June 2018 15:29 (seven years ago)
No-one likes us, we don't care
― womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2018 15:30 (seven years ago)
What is this conservative brain disease that translates a plea for humane treatment into a shrill liberal edict to place the needs of the disadvantaged far above the needs of everyone else? 'now people are saying that they are more important than people in our country', GTFO you fucking moron.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 15:35 (seven years ago)
What, I should give up my home for illegal immigrants? I should just sign my paycheck over to them, give them all the food from my pantry? This is what you're telling me I should do? I thought this was America, for heaven's sake!
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 15:37 (seven years ago)
Fuckin' Butthurt Nation.
GOP: Why won't you think of the US children that we are screwing over first.
― Yerac, Friday, 22 June 2018 15:37 (seven years ago)
― sleeve, Friday, 22 June 2018 15:38 (seven years ago)
yall if we just cut taxes on millionaires i'm pretty sure they will not only fix the water crisis in Flint but ALSO pay for the wall.
― ian, Friday, 22 June 2018 15:47 (seven years ago)
Millionaires are America's immune system, basically.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 15:49 (seven years ago)
-actually- the problem is with the media. they're spending so much time covering melania's wardrobe, they can't help the children
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 June 2018 15:52 (seven years ago)
through the looking glass
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 June 2018 15:53 (seven years ago)
i was hoping i could float over here or something, it seems more or less the same, but worse
god it must be so fun to work for this jagoff
Background on Trump’s Space Force: he idly came up with the idea, the Pentagon thought it was dumb, so he got mad and just announced it was happening https://t.co/3qXrJNdx6Q— Helen Kennedy (@HelenKennedy) June 22, 2018
― frogbs, Friday, 22 June 2018 15:55 (seven years ago)
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/crying-migrant-girl-in-heartbreaking-photo-wasnt-separated-from-her-mother_us_5b2cd289e4b0321a01d02a91?utm_medium=facebook§ion=politics&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013&utm_source=politics_fb&utm_campaign=hp_fb_pages
Obviously if this photo is not representing what it was supposed to be because the mother & child weren't actually separated after their arrest the whole protest against the current process must be invalid innit?Shame the photographer isn't omniscient & not sure how he could have factchecked taht beforehand. BUt god hate to think that taking a stand not to separate mothers and young children has been shown to be a lie by this.But Then again thankfully I'm not a republican so I don't think like that.
― Stevolende, Friday, 22 June 2018 15:56 (seven years ago)
oh great, looking forward to snide morons pointing that out all over my FB feed
― sleeve, Friday, 22 June 2018 15:58 (seven years ago)
We really just need to learn how to shout 'FAKE NEWWWWWS!' right back at 'em.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 16:00 (seven years ago)
Like, leave the well-argued appeals to reason to those arenas where there's a chance they might resonate. The GOP playing field is the elementary school playground, and every time we try to elevate the conversation with them, we lose.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 16:05 (seven years ago)
re: stupidity of space force, trump "idly coming up with idea"
i've heard the idea of a new military space branch floated for a while now, outside of trump. Mike Rogers (R - AL) was promoting it heavily last year when he co-authored legislation to create a new "Space Corps" within the Air Force: https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a27317/space-corps-military-branch-approved-by-house/
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 June 2018 16:10 (seven years ago)
I will sign off on Space Force if we also get a Volcano Force and Ocean Floor Force who can be sent to other places where only an eight-year-old boy staging fantastic battles with his action figures might conceivably think we would ever need a military force.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 16:17 (seven years ago)
By which I mean: fuck you Donald Trump (the general subtext of most things I say these days).
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 16:18 (seven years ago)
dinosaur force is STRONGEST xp
― Hunt3r, Friday, 22 June 2018 16:19 (seven years ago)
everybody makes fun of space force, but it kind of seems obvious to me that militaries from across the world will be in space, sooner or later. i think it's a bad idea and i wish it wouldn't happen, but it's probably going to happen. if the bottom of the ocean was more accessible we'd have ocean floor force too
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 June 2018 16:21 (seven years ago)
the fear of sputnik hovering over the united states in the 50s, the immense amounts of money poured into the space race - was this not an early battle for supremacy in space, strongly motivated by strategic/militaristic considerations?
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 June 2018 16:22 (seven years ago)
I thought it was mostly a combination of Red Scare and 'Uhhhh, not fair! They did something before we did it!'
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 16:28 (seven years ago)
nah we were legit freaked
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 22 June 2018 16:36 (seven years ago)
What is this conservative brain disease that translates a plea for humane treatment into a shrill liberal edict to place the needs of the disadvantaged far above the needs of everyone else?
― maura, Friday, 22 June 2018 16:39 (seven years ago)
i mean, if you want to talk about full scale overreactions to “please don’t kill us”...
― maura, Friday, 22 June 2018 16:40 (seven years ago)
It seems to be an age-old issue, fueling much of the backlash to the civil rights movement, etc. I mean, I guess it's just Whitenationalistitis, but the symptom set is insanely broad.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 16:45 (seven years ago)
i love how Dems take a break from breathlessly condemning the outrageous abuse of state power to sign over one of the biggest military budgets ever
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/19/u-s-military-budget-inches-closer-to-1-trillion-mark-as-concerns-over-federal-deficit-grow/
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 June 2018 16:46 (seven years ago)
xpost I'd have to read up on conservatism pre-'64 to know if it went any further back, but that tendency has definitely been baked into the DNA of the GOP since then.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 16:47 (seven years ago)
Is that the definition of the word reactionary?
― Stevolende, Friday, 22 June 2018 17:19 (seven years ago)
I might call it 'reactioperbole'.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 17:22 (seven years ago)
I think it betrays an unconscious awareness of what actually will need to happen (i.e. white people losing a lot of their status and power and capital and stuff) if brown people are ever to be truly treated equitably in this country.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 17:28 (seven years ago)
The huge ass military budget = the best jobs for most will be military service or become a dependapotomaus so you can be assured adequate healthcare/safety nets.
― Yerac, Friday, 22 June 2018 17:29 (seven years ago)
dependapotomaus
I like this word which I had never before heard.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 June 2018 17:47 (seven years ago)
I only learned it a couple of months ago. It's been a thing for a couple of years.
― Yerac, Friday, 22 June 2018 17:49 (seven years ago)
I was reading all the dependapotomaus definitions and stories on reddit or something and just really laughing because it's a shitty term but I kind of appreciate someone coining it because a lot of it was spot on.
― Yerac, Friday, 22 June 2018 18:00 (seven years ago)
Here's the official list of the people to whom Trump is giving a speech in a couple minutes. ICE and Border Protection agents are also in attendance. pic.twitter.com/kjtJuCCTql— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) June 22, 2018
yes I'm sure that tripling down on the immigrants = crime thing is sure to turn the tide around on this negative press cycle
its kinda starting to appear like Trump was legitimately blindsided by the revelation that people actually care about ILLEGAL ALIEN kids too
― frogbs, Friday, 22 June 2018 18:48 (seven years ago)
ICE should ban cars next. Fight the real enemy.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 22 June 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
what the
Everything Trump touches turns tacky. Each parent of a kid slain by undocumented immigrant is holding poster of the kids’ face… with a big ol’ Donald Trump autograph. pic.twitter.com/HTKgboORa9— Andrew Kirell (@AndrewKirell) June 22, 2018
― frogbs, Friday, 22 June 2018 19:00 (seven years ago)
boy I wonder if we're gonna hear "permanent separation" another 10,000 times from this administration to justify the kiddie jails
― frogbs, Friday, 22 June 2018 19:01 (seven years ago)
If we're preemptively locking up all undocumented immigrants to prevent those with criminal intent from indulging their baser impulses, doesn't it make sense to go ahead and lock up the entire population of the country lest we fall victim to the bad guys in our midst?
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:07 (seven years ago)
I'm gonna have a chat with Space Force about this.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4737024/rep-ted-lieu-plays-audio-detention-center-house-floor
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:11 (seven years ago)
god this administration is just so fucking gross
― gbx, Friday, 22 June 2018 19:14 (seven years ago)
not that it is relevant to how we treat infants, but ...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgUYy62V4AAN55g.jpg:large
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:22 (seven years ago)
hands down the #2 thing texas could do to reduce crime is replace all the texans with immigrants. #1 is ban guns, of course.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:23 (seven years ago)
data there from noted leftist propaganda mill the cato institute
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:24 (seven years ago)
The people who are most vocal about “crime” are always the least likely to be the victims of property crime or violent crime.
― valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:25 (seven years ago)
Same with "terrorism". There was a neat graphic that showed the scale to which it was skewed as such.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:38 (seven years ago)
c/p'd from my friend's fb feed:
"As I type this I can already sense people getting mad at me but please read to the end. I am troubled by the constant reference of where children are being held as "concentration camps". That is not what they are. Believe me when I say that I am not trying to soften the injustices that the Trump Administration is perpetuating. Instead, I am trying to defend the Flores Settlement, which is being attacked by Trump's newest executive order that purports to end family separation. The Flores Settlement was not created to separate families. It was created to protect kids from being put into federal detention indefinitely. The rules are that when they are detained by ICE (in those god forsaken cages, yes that is ICE and border patrol doing that), they cannot be kept long and have to be put into the custody of Health and Human Services and the Office of Refugee Settlement. Once they are there, because of the Flores Settlement, those agencies' job is to place them, with no unnecessary delay, with family members or friends so they are out of detention. Ostensibly, they are tasked with taking care of them while they get them as far as possible from federal detention. The whole thing is inarguably wretched. A nightmare. It is an awful bureaucratic mess and there has to be seriously high standards of care and oversight and human rights monitoring put on those agencies and it is certainly upsetting that there are private contractors getting rich off of the misery. But they are not concentration camps. Their whole reason of the Flores Settlement and these camps is to get kids away from the horrific conditions of detention and into safe sponsor's arms as quickly as can be. But you wanna see a concentration camp? Go to a family detention facility. Check out the South Texas Family Residential Facility in Dilley, TX, for one. The aim of these facilities is not to keep kids comfortable while they find a safe place for them. In family detention children are detained, yes with their parents, in horrific conditions while the government seeks to deport them back to the hell they came from. The effect of Trump's executive order is to validate using family detention to indefinitely detain and eventually deport families and pretend it is humane because it is "keeping families together". I 100% agree that families belong together. That is why we should never, ever detain immigrants or refugees whether they are adults or children. I don't think any scheme where anyone is detained is humane. I think an interesting thought exercise, though, when considering if family detention is better than "family separation" is to imagine if you were on the border with your own children and your option was to be detained with them in a federal family detention facility for a long time while facing detention, or to get them out of there via the Flores Settlement and send them to a relative who can hug them and feed them and give them love and care. Obviously both choices stink. I don't have an answer for which is better but I know we can't automatically assume that keeping families together in a horrifying family detention facility is automatically preferred to getting the kid to safety of a sponsor. The good thing is we don't have to do either. We can just not detain anyone. And to me, that is the only acceptable change that Trump can offer."
― gbx, Friday, 22 June 2018 21:21 (seven years ago)
heard a podcast with andrea pitzer about https://www.amazon.com/dp/0316303593 and it was interesting.
actually it's here? http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/trumpcast/2018/06/are_detention_centers_concentration_camps.html
― Hunt3r, Friday, 22 June 2018 21:24 (seven years ago)
I think an interesting thought exercise, though, when considering if family detention is better than "family separation" is to imagine if you were on the border with your own children and your option was to be detained with them in a federal family detention facility for a long time while facing detention, or to get them out of there via the Flores Settlement and send them to a relative who can hug them and feed them and give them love and care. Obviously both choices stink. I don't have an answer for which is better but I know we can't automatically assume that keeping families together in a horrifying family detention facility is automatically preferred to getting the kid to safety of a sponsor.
question on the "finding relatives" part of this: do we know how often HHS is able to identify a relative or friend who can take care of them, vs how often they're sent to a foster family?
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 June 2018 21:33 (seven years ago)
the autographing of the dead peoples' portraits is incredible
― mookieproof, Friday, 22 June 2018 21:39 (seven years ago)
yeah, that floored me. what a fucking prick
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 June 2018 21:41 (seven years ago)
good question, karl, i'm not really sure! i can ask
― gbx, Friday, 22 June 2018 21:41 (seven years ago)
i'd kind of guess that no one knows? i'm not sure. in the midst of all this media coverage, somehow it took me a couple days ago to realize that these children were being sent to relatives/foster families, and that immediately made me wonder how many of these kids end up on the foster side of the equation. it's a dilemma with zero good options - like your friend said, it's not like we would want to send the children back to whatever dire situation they were trying to escape from. and i don't doubt that most of the foster families are very good people who want to do a good thing. but still, some of these immigration courts have backlogs until 2021. that means a child placed into a foster family could be there for 3 or more years before...what? before they're reunited with their convicted parents somewhere? before they all get deported together? honestly, i'm not even sure what typically happens after the migrants are prosecuted.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 June 2018 21:47 (seven years ago)
Ohhhhhh, I misunderstood and thought people were posing with signed photos of Trump, which was just weird. Now I understand: it's actually full-bore sociopathic.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 21:50 (seven years ago)
"Sorry about your kid. Here, have an autograph. Wow, she was really attractive...really attractive. Not quite an Ivanka, but certainly a Tiffany or just above. Just above. Alright, let's get some people thrown out the country!"
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 June 2018 21:54 (seven years ago)
He is so clearly not fit to serve. Shame the next in line is pretty bad too.Also shame you can't declare the 2016 election null and void and have another go with immediate results.
― Stevolende, Friday, 22 June 2018 22:01 (seven years ago)
In a world that actually functioned, I'd think that simply spending any time in the presence of Donald Trump would be the the most watertight anti-Trump argument imaginable.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 22:05 (seven years ago)
'Oh christ...this malfunctioning Skynet robot in an ill-fitting human suit who can't disguise his naked contempt for even his staunchest supporters is the guy I've been championing?'
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 22:08 (seven years ago)
For the fourth straight day there was no WH briefing. No officials to explain how the admin plans to return the separated kids to their parents. This is how the briefing room looks.. a few reporters waiting for answers that aren’t coming yet. #whereistheplan #whereispresssec pic.twitter.com/aLok8zcEbc— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) June 22, 2018
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 June 2018 22:10 (seven years ago)
I keep getting reminded of the Dr Who story Aliens of London and the Slitheen where grossly corrupt, venal aliens take over top positions in the UK government etc for personal gain.ButTI assume that Trump does still pass for human at least.Is it a skin suit though?
― Stevolende, Friday, 22 June 2018 22:13 (seven years ago)
oh my fucking god Chris Hayes is marvelous tonight
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 June 2018 00:08 (seven years ago)
WHAT THE FUCK
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Government-Reform-and-Reorg-Plan.pdf
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2018 00:24 (seven years ago)
goodbye, America
what a wonderful time to be a government contract employee
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 23 June 2018 00:28 (seven years ago)
goodbye, Army Corps Of Engineers, it was nice knowing you
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2018 00:34 (seven years ago)
maximum confusion, organizational arson, total corruption, melania's jacket.. it's like the fuckin Joker is in charge
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 23 June 2018 00:36 (seven years ago)
I wonder which government contractor(s) wrote the report
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 June 2018 00:36 (seven years ago)
xp not sure I get the significance of this, but really sure I don't want to read 132 pages of this government's proposals
― Dan S, Saturday, 23 June 2018 00:37 (seven years ago)
it's pretty much the "drown government in the bathtub" stage of things
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2018 00:39 (seven years ago)
It won't get past Congress. It won't even come close.
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 23 June 2018 00:39 (seven years ago)
I hope you're right but I'm not even sure there's gonna be a Congress in the next six months
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2018 00:41 (seven years ago)
don’t say things like that
― k3vin k., Saturday, 23 June 2018 00:42 (seven years ago)
oh come the fuck on, dude. they can declare martial law at any point.
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2018 00:45 (seven years ago)
Yeah, I've been saying the US is over for a while, but I really do think whatever is currently in motion, we won't come back from in our lifetime.
― Yerac, Saturday, 23 June 2018 00:50 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqY2apae6Nk
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 June 2018 00:55 (seven years ago)
― k3vin k., Saturday, 23 June 2018 01:01 (seven years ago)
An unpopular opinion, but there are many organizational inefficiencies (often caused years ago by carelessly crafted legislation) in the federal government that really could be improved by reorganizing part of it. Individual agencies do this all the time. It is, however, a massive pain in the ass for everyone involved, Congress will never approve this, and ideally it would be something undertaken by something other that the most incompetent administration in American history
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 June 2018 01:08 (seven years ago)
It’s also rife with opportunities for pure bureaucratic evil that are too complex and boring for the American public to understand or care about
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 June 2018 01:10 (seven years ago)
https://m.nationalskillscoalition.org/news/blog/administration-reorganization-would-eliminate-critical-workforce-and-education-programs-and-expand-ineffective-work-requirements
― alomar lines, Saturday, 23 June 2018 01:19 (seven years ago)
They can’t even implement a one page executive order without stepping on their own dicks. I think even congress realizes this and won’t let this happen.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 23 June 2018 01:26 (seven years ago)
Read that .org as "Nationals Kills Coalition" and was like "Yeah, totally an official part of this administration..."
I think this week has aged us all thirty years...
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 23 June 2018 01:31 (seven years ago)
xp again, in all sincerity, let's hope so
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2018 01:31 (seven years ago)
also, thank u Alfred
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2018 01:32 (seven years ago)
Melania confounds everyone again by wearing one of those jackets with all the NBA logos on it pic.twitter.com/ueJZJ6B7Cc— Dan Hopper (@DanHopp) June 22, 2018
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 June 2018 01:37 (seven years ago)
pretty sure Bob Dylan wore that in 1985, which makes Melania cool.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 June 2018 01:46 (seven years ago)
is this what it looks like when someone slowly gets sucked into another dimension on live tv
Tom Arnold just gave one of the most amazing cable news interviews I’ve ever witnessed pic.twitter.com/3aRwmuxeWe— Jon Passantino (@passantino) June 23, 2018
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 June 2018 02:05 (seven years ago)
that was painful to watch, he was also kind of incoherent on Lawrence O'Donnell's show
― Dan S, Saturday, 23 June 2018 02:51 (seven years ago)
there aren't nearly enough stories that try to explain what migrants are fleeing from, but this is a good one:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/22/us/immigration-border-children.html
Though it’s impossible to know yet whether the Trump administration’s “zero tolerance” crackdown on illegal border crossers will have a significant deterrent effect, one thing was clear this week at the Arizona-Mexico border: Many families — especially those from countries in Central America plagued by gang violence and ruined economies — are making the calculation that even separation or detention in the United States is better than the situation at home.“Why would you undertake such a dangerous journey?” said Magdalena Escobedo, 32, who works at the migrant shelter here in Tucson, called Casa Alitas. “When you’ve got a gun to your head, people threatening to rape your daughter, extort your business, force your son to work for the cartels. What would you do?”
“Why would you undertake such a dangerous journey?” said Magdalena Escobedo, 32, who works at the migrant shelter here in Tucson, called Casa Alitas. “When you’ve got a gun to your head, people threatening to rape your daughter, extort your business, force your son to work for the cartels. What would you do?”
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 June 2018 03:36 (seven years ago)
Tom Arnold link seems to have disappeared between me seeing it on my phone and going to look at it on my desktop.
He does sound a bit weird on the Lawrence O'Donnel show anyway.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:10 (seven years ago)
Sorry, just loaded now. My feed must be not loading fully or something.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:11 (seven years ago)
https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/immigrant-mom-loses-effort-regain-son-us-parents/story?id=16803067Not a great precedent. & can see how this is likely to become one from what i'm hearing about a lack of planned out process. & maybe this is what the White house wants anyway.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 23 June 2018 09:22 (seven years ago)
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 23 June 2018 12:17 (seven years ago)
Yeah they definitely can't declare martial law in any constitutional way. Plus with so much decentralized power in the U.S., I'm not even sure how it work. You'd have whole cities and states where the local law enforcement authorities would not respect the authority of the feds.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 23 June 2018 13:16 (seven years ago)
again, I hope you're both right.
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:32 (seven years ago)
Please don't say, "But y'all said that about Trump winning in 2016!"
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:37 (seven years ago)
thankfully that did not cross my mind
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:40 (seven years ago)
regarding the "why people seek asylum" question:
So we're gonna pretend these refugees aren't a result of our actions in Central America?
yeah it's Daily Kos link but it links through to more detailed reports
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:43 (seven years ago)
the woman who beat mark sanford was in a serious car crash last night
― maura, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:47 (seven years ago)
man i really hope Sarah Huckabee Sanders ends up in a serious car crash
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:23 (seven years ago)
using the official @PressSec twitter account to go after a business that refused her service last night.
how long until we've got PizzaGate 2?
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:25 (seven years ago)
The USA has been fucking around with Central America since forever. It's probably the single most disgraceful part of our long history of foreign interventions.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:27 (seven years ago)
Wouldn't you rather she realised she was wrong, and dedicated her life to the service of others? Car chrash may be more likely, but while we're wishing for things that seems better.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:27 (seven years ago)
Which is more likely. That one is the one I want
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:33 (seven years ago)
I'm not sure that makes sense, but okay.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:53 (seven years ago)
Seems easy enuf to parse
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:57 (seven years ago)
For every person involved in this administration who eventually has a half-hearted 'come to Jesus' moment years after the damage they participated in has been done (a la Glenn Beck), there will be 150 who go to their graves bitterly doubling down on their own shitbaggery.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Saturday, 23 June 2018 19:15 (seven years ago)
I REALLY DON’T CARE. DO U? https://t.co/L2o6H2KXC2— John Dingell (@JohnDingell) June 23, 2018
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 23 June 2018 19:36 (seven years ago)
dingell is the red foreman of the democartic party that we need
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 23 June 2018 19:45 (seven years ago)
perfect
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2018 19:49 (seven years ago)
of course sarah massaged the truth to make herself feel better.
Several Red Hen employees were gay, [the owner] said. They knew Sanders had defended Trump’s desire to bar transgender people from the military. This month, they had all watched her evade questions and defend a Trump policy that caused migrant children to be separated from their parents.
“Tell me what you want me to do. I can ask her to leave,” Wilkinson told her staff, she said. “They said yes.”
It was important to Wilkinson, she said, that Sanders had already been served — that her staff had not simply refused her on sight. And it was important to her that Sanders was a public official, not just a customer with whom she disagreed, many of whom were included in her regular clientele.
All the same, she was tense as she walked up to the press secretary’s chair.
“I said, ‘I’m the owner,’ ” she recalled, ” ‘I’d like you to come out to the patio with me for a word.’ ”
They stepped outside, into another small enclosure, but at least out of the crowded restaurant.
“I was babbling a little, but I got my point across in a polite and direct fashion,” Wilkinson said. “I explained that the restaurant has certain standards that I feel it has to uphold, such as honesty, and compassion, and cooperation.
“I said, ‘I’d like to ask you to leave.’ ”
Wilkinson didn’t know how Sanders would react. She said she didn’t know whether Trump’s chief spokeswoman had been called out in a restaurant before, as the president’s homeland security secretary had been days earlier.
Sanders’s response was immediate, Wilkinson said: ” ‘ That’s fine. I’ll go.’ ”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/06/23/why-a-small-town-restaurant-owner-asked-sarah-huckabee-sanders-to-leave-and-would-do-it-again/?utm_term=.451cbf1fa4b1
― maura, Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:11 (seven years ago)
Sarah, I know you don’t care even a tiny little bit about the ethics rules, but using your official account for this is a clear violation of 5 CFR 2635.702(a). It’s the same as if an ATF agent pulled out his badge when a restaurant tried to throw him/her out. https://t.co/Fj6OfBAdew— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) June 23, 2018
― maura, Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:20 (seven years ago)
and the punishment for violating 5 CFR 2635.702(a) is...
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:36 (seven years ago)
an invisible feather ploofing down on the wrist in the middle of a lovely dream, years later
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:37 (seven years ago)
her punishment is that she gave the restaurant that 86’d her a bunch of free publicity, excellent work by a true communications professional
― sciatica, Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:42 (seven years ago)
free publicity and probably now a target of threats by insane dumbasses from around the country. a friend of mine works at a really nice restaurant in DC called The Red Hen. it's not the one that sanders visited, and it's unaffiliated. even this unaffiliated restaurant is getting bombarded with 1-star reviews on yelp, and is anticipating threats. i'm sure it's much much worse for the real thing
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:50 (seven years ago)
their facebook page is a toilet now.
probably not the worst idea to hire full-time security.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:53 (seven years ago)
Went on the Red Hen's Yelp page to have a good lol at the Magaists' reviews and here is what the admins are doing:
Active Cleanup AlertThis business recently made waves in the news, which often means that people come to this page to post their views on the news.While we don’t take a stand one way or the other when it comes to these news events, we do work to remove both positive and negative posts that appear to be motivated more by the news coverage itself than the reviewer’s personal consumer experience with the business.As a result, your posts to this page may be removed as part of our cleanup process beginning Saturday, June 23, 2018, but you should feel free to post your thoughts about the recent media coverage for this business on Yelp Talk at any time.
While we don’t take a stand one way or the other when it comes to these news events, we do work to remove both positive and negative posts that appear to be motivated more by the news coverage itself than the reviewer’s personal consumer experience with the business.
As a result, your posts to this page may be removed as part of our cleanup process beginning Saturday, June 23, 2018, but you should feel free to post your thoughts about the recent media coverage for this business on Yelp Talk at any time.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:17 (seven years ago)
The Yelp reviews are a sewer. One guy photoshopped a rat b/w hamburger bread.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:17 (seven years ago)
guys
― sciatica, Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:24 (seven years ago)
"Sarah, we the people of the USA are the owners of the White House, and we'd like to ask you to leave."
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:36 (seven years ago)
https://cdn.worldvectorlogo.com/logos/cracker-barrel-1.svg
― earlnash, Saturday, 23 June 2018 22:50 (seven years ago)
free publicity and probably now a target of threats by insane dumbasses from around the country. a friend of mine works at a really nice restaurant in DC called The Red Hen. it's not the one that sanders visited, and it's unaffiliated. even this unaffiliated restaurant is getting bombarded with 1-star reviews on yelp, and is anticipating threats.
So emblematic of the red hatter's that when one of their queens spots them the exact location of the restaurant to bombard, they still get it wrong. I imagine there are Red Hen restaurants and businesses getting a similar treatment in Washington STATE now too.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:10 (seven years ago)
they're as mad as a red hen!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:13 (seven years ago)
I don't own a restaurant, but if I did, and if a person I didn't like tried to patronize my restaurant, and I would rather they not but had already done so, I would think that instead of asking them for a private word out on the patio with the intention of asking them to leave, I'd prefer to politely confront them in front of everyone with the reasons I didn't like them, and then let them know their meal was on the house before letting them go ahead and leave whenever they felt sufficiently humiliated enough to do so. But straight up asking someone to leave, whether you take them aside privately beforehand or not, is frankly unamerican.
― del griffith, Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:22 (seven years ago)
Hey, maybe the next restaurant visited by an administration official will preempt any possible retaliatory action by never letting said official leave their establishment again. Something about the thought of Trump's cabinet chained up in various bistro basements across DC makes feel all warm and fuzzy.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:24 (seven years ago)
and you could say: see there's a such a thing as free lunch in america!
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:25 (seven years ago)
Eat the rich
― Stevolende, Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:28 (seven years ago)
― del griffith
I admit to feeling slightly uncomfortable too but according to the manager she let them finish their meal.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:30 (seven years ago)
Yeah it's easy to imagine how it can escalate in the worst possible way for people of color and the lgbtq community.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:33 (seven years ago)
I agree and I think the way the Hamilton cast addressed Mike Pence, for example, is a better thing to do...however that actor revealed recently that he was bombarded with death threats for ages after that. so no fucking pleasing everyone. MAGAs don't give a fuck if you're polite or not
― akm, Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:38 (seven years ago)
The White House’s hastily crafted executive order to end child separations spurred confusion and fights within the federal government, and second-guessing from the president who had demanded the order in the first place.
In private conversations with aides, Trump said he wanted to sign a full immigration bill as part of an executive order, which one administration official described as “a pretty insane idea.” The president was told by government lawyers that he could not change immigration law by fiat, said a person familiar with the discussions.
Trump then demanded that an executive order be written, and said he wanted it on his desk for signing by that afternoon, according to people involved in the discussions. Given hours to produce a complex legal document, government lawyers crafted one that met the moment’s political demands but only added to confusion within the agencies tasked with implementing it.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 24 June 2018 07:38 (seven years ago)
Goat Rodeo
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 June 2018 07:43 (seven years ago)
Goat Rodeos, July 2018
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 June 2018 13:48 (seven years ago)
The Goatest Rodeo
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 24 June 2018 13:58 (seven years ago)
Donald Trump's Goatse Rodeo
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 June 2018 14:28 (seven years ago)
mountin’ goats
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 24 June 2018 14:31 (seven years ago)
Goat Mournting!
― Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 24 June 2018 15:40 (seven years ago)
It’s very sad that Nancy Pelosi and her sidekick, Cryin’ Chuck Schumer, want to protect illegal immigrants far more than the citizens of our country. The United States cannot stand for this. We wants safety and security at our borders!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 23, 2018
We wants it!
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 24 June 2018 15:56 (seven years ago)
I doubt Trump is that savvy, but I wonder if any of his staff tell him "the typos are good! They make your base feel better about themselves! Leave the typos!"
― a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Sunday, 24 June 2018 15:59 (seven years ago)
Again with this 'far more' shit. How about this: I care far more about protecting undocumented immigrants than I do about protecting you and the people who enable you. If I had the power, I would reassign the Secret Service to protecting them and leaving you to fend for yourself. Signed, a lib.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 June 2018 16:15 (seven years ago)
So racism is pretty much the only plank of Trump's midterms campaign then.
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Sunday, 24 June 2018 17:57 (seven years ago)
I thought this was a confirmed thing they were really doing.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 24 June 2018 17:57 (seven years ago)
On the reorganization stuff, I have been approached by a client about doing some consulting work on the proposed GSA/OPM merger. I'm not even remotely interested in helping these mousefuckers (even if they were to accidentally try to do something beneficial, as Karl says) so no. But it's also not going to happen. I am not sure how harshly I should judge people who want to make money off of failure, but that's a separate question.
but it kind of seems obvious to me that militaries from across the world will be in space
Yabbut we have the already existing Air Force Space Command http://www.afspc.af.mil/ as well as Navy Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command http://www.public.navy.mil/spawar/Pages/default.aspx .
The party of small government advocating the creation of a new redundant bureaucracy, oh my paws and fucking whiskers
― ~ cows come home (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 24 June 2018 20:59 (seven years ago)
Sooooo not going to happen?
― tobo73, Sunday, 24 June 2018 21:04 (seven years ago)
Space Force camo, spotted on FB:
https://scontent.fewr1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36043836_256982791718521_7104012620687998976_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=54210608814d75cf3a0bf6185a611a8c&oe=5BE936BC
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 24 June 2018 21:32 (seven years ago)
I’m still maintaining the reality that I just hallucinated the whole “space force” thing.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 24 June 2018 22:13 (seven years ago)
I would never bugger a man wearing tapered pants. He'd have to look like Jake Gyllenhaal.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 June 2018 22:21 (seven years ago)
anyway, send to your friends:
The money behind DC made its decision a long time ago: profits over people. They will happily accept fascism as the price required to keep the people suppressed. pic.twitter.com/6PV2XwgMrL— Being weird isn't enough 🤕 (@Lostwanderfound) June 24, 2018
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 June 2018 22:25 (seven years ago)
I am not sure how harshly I should judge people who want to make money off of failure, but that's a separate question.
― maura, Monday, 25 June 2018 00:12 (seven years ago)
more hostage-taking
HOUSTON — Central American men separated from their children and held in a detention facility outside Houston are being told they can reunite with their kids at the airport if they agree to sign a voluntary deportation order now, according to one migrant at the facility and two immigration attorneys who have spoken to detainees there.
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/06/24/kids-exchange-deportation-migrants-claim-they-were-promised-they-could/
― Karl Malone, Monday, 25 June 2018 00:42 (seven years ago)
Incivility would be kidnapping Sarah Sanders’ kids, caging them, and only reuniting them with her if she agrees to leave the country. Refusing her a meal is merciful.— David Klion 🔥 (@DavidKlion) June 24, 2018
― Simon H., Monday, 25 June 2018 01:16 (seven years ago)
Even Kamala Harris is leaning towards joining the call to abolish ICE (though "we need to probably think about starting from scratch” lacks oomph)
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-abolish-ice_us_5b2fb918e4b0321a01d25415?utm_source=reddit.com
― Simon H., Monday, 25 June 2018 01:23 (seven years ago)
she's a prez hopeful -- that's how it goes
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 June 2018 01:24 (seven years ago)
Sanders dodged the question today but I'd put money on him pivoting in the next week.
― Simon H., Monday, 25 June 2018 01:27 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O973zLjkCuw
― velko, Monday, 25 June 2018 01:38 (seven years ago)
meanwhile, OccupyICE folks continue to get the goods
Just announced that ICE cancelling operations at 201 Varick Street tomorrow (Monday). #OccupyICENYC pic.twitter.com/oZNhSWOU5W— VictoriaLaw (@LVikkiml) June 25, 2018
― Simon H., Monday, 25 June 2018 01:45 (seven years ago)
It would be hilarious if he didn't have nuclear weapons.
.@jimmyfallon is now whimpering to all that he did the famous “hair show” with me (where he seriously messed up my hair), & that he would have now done it differently because it is said to have “humanized” me-he is taking heat. He called & said “monster ratings.” Be a man Jimmy!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 25, 2018
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 25 June 2018 01:47 (seven years ago)
seriously messed up
― j., Monday, 25 June 2018 01:48 (seven years ago)
ratings monster
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 June 2018 01:50 (seven years ago)
How can you seriously mess up hair that is already seriously messed up
― Zelda Zonk, Monday, 25 June 2018 01:51 (seven years ago)
I just freaked out and tried to escape to a parallel universe where Donald Trump and Jimmy Fallon both don't exist
― cr.ht (crüt), Monday, 25 June 2018 01:51 (seven years ago)
US Politics, July 2018: He Seriously Messed Up My Hair (womp womp)
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 25 June 2018 02:29 (seven years ago)
The Red Hen Restaurant should focus more on cleaning its filthy canopies, doors and windows (badly needs a paint job) rather than refusing to serve a fine person like Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I always had a rule, if a restaurant is dirty on the outside, it is dirty on the inside!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 25, 2018
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 25 June 2018 12:08 (seven years ago)
That's my rule for politicians too!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 June 2018 12:09 (seven years ago)
Oh, fuck this.
It's amazing how my desire to watch him get helplessly sucked into some piece of heavy machinery and ground into chum only grows with every day and every utterance.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 June 2018 12:18 (seven years ago)
That would be too quick and oblivious a death.
― Yerac, Monday, 25 June 2018 12:45 (seven years ago)
President Yelp
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 25 June 2018 12:56 (seven years ago)
Hiring manythousands of judges, and going through a long and complicated legal process, is not the way to go - will always be disfunctional. People must simply be stopped at the Border and told they cannot come into the U.S. illegally. Children brought back to their country......— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 25, 2018
manythousands
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 25 June 2018 12:56 (seven years ago)
who needs judges when you can just hire someone to people that what they're doing is illegal
― cr.ht (crüt), Monday, 25 June 2018 13:01 (seven years ago)
I thought the government was already trying to send a lot of Air Force judges to help out with the prosecution of border crossers.So assumed he was behind that. Hope it did manage to get stopped though
― Stevolende, Monday, 25 June 2018 13:06 (seven years ago)
boo hoo math is hard!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 25 June 2018 13:16 (seven years ago)
have we ever had such a wimpy, crybaby president??
im sure we have they just didn't get a chance to poop their pants all over twitter like this one .
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 25 June 2018 13:22 (seven years ago)
so glad the national discourse has switched from kids being put in cages and potentially never getting to see their families again to some lady getting kicked out of a restaurant
― frogbs, Monday, 25 June 2018 13:47 (seven years ago)
Is it strategic restaurant choice? Did Kjirstjen Neilsjen deliberately go to a specifically Mexican restaurant at this time for this reason.& is the Red Hen known for liberal staff or something?
― Stevolende, Monday, 25 June 2018 14:14 (seven years ago)
they are not that smart
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 25 June 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)
I keep hearing people ask/speculate along those lines and my considered answer is a) almost certainly not and b) it makes not a whit of difference xp
― Simon H., Monday, 25 June 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)
Trolls gonna troll. Seems like a Miller/Bannon/Stone thing to get a good laugh by choosing those restaurants.
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 25 June 2018 14:23 (seven years ago)
most likely she just wanted to get some mexican food
― cr.ht (crüt), Monday, 25 June 2018 14:26 (seven years ago)
Just curious - Trump can slag off Meryl Streep as 'overrated' and so forth, that's his opinion etc.
But, if he says a restaurant is filthy, that's a statement of fact, right? Can they sue?
― Mark G, Monday, 25 June 2018 14:51 (seven years ago)
In their defense, Mexican food is usually delicious.
― ~ cows come home (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 June 2018 14:58 (seven years ago)
i would think they probably could sue, yes
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 25 June 2018 15:05 (seven years ago)
I would like to see people flooding Yelp with reviews of Trump properties which are just the text of his tweet with the business name changed.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 June 2018 15:08 (seven years ago)
Mar-a-Lago is a dump that failedmany inspection
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 25 June 2018 15:32 (seven years ago)
NEW: Special counsel Mueller has obtained the phones and computer of Trump ally/Blackwater founder Erik Prince. A spokesperson for Prince (who is also Betsy DeVos' brother) said he has provided Mueller with “total access to his phone and computer.” https://t.co/NfxI4Wd2x0— Caroline O. (@RVAwonk) June 25, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 June 2018 16:01 (seven years ago)
ned
u gotta stop with the hope on this shiy
― under a mand'rin tsar (darraghmac), Monday, 25 June 2018 16:05 (seven years ago)
Nothing will happen suddenly. But the slow grind's still worth noting.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 June 2018 16:06 (seven years ago)
dude I come here to see this stuff Ned post , it often seems futile but what else ya gonna do ? xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 25 June 2018 16:10 (seven years ago)
thx Ned, that is legit good news
― sleeve, Monday, 25 June 2018 16:14 (seven years ago)
It is certainly interesting (to me at least) that instead of either 'no comment' or loud blasts at Mueller and the probe combined with protestations of innocence, Prince's team is almost hilariously cagey. The exact importance of his role and actions is still unclear, though, however suggestive it might be.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 June 2018 16:15 (seven years ago)
On a separate Roger Stone-related front, meantime:
Protip: when you proclaim "I won't be a rat," you imply you have incriminating information to supply, increasing the chance you will be subpoenaed. https://t.co/HVEQGt6Wuk— ThisIsNotNormalHat (@Popehat) June 25, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 June 2018 16:16 (seven years ago)
I would trade convictions for the lot of them for Erik Prince doing time. I'm sure he'd get pardoned ASAP so preferably something that could also get state charges.
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 June 2018 16:32 (seven years ago)
A spokesperson for Prince (who is also Betsy DeVos' brother) said he has provided Mueller with “total access to his phone and computer.”
Couldn't happen to a nicer species of profoundly evil pond scum.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 25 June 2018 16:37 (seven years ago)
https://slate.com/business/2018/06/harley-davidson-and-trumps-trade-war-some-motorcycle-production-moving-abroad.html
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 25 June 2018 16:43 (seven years ago)
― under a mand'rin tsar (darraghmac), Monday, June 25, 2018 6:05 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ned shouldn't stop, but hope there is none tbf. Nothing matters.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 25 June 2018 17:12 (seven years ago)
this is a nice little preview of what we can expect whenever trump finally leaves office: dog whistles to his supporters to incite violence
Congresswoman Maxine Waters, an extraordinarily low IQ person, has become, together with Nancy Pelosi, the Face of the Democrat Party. She has just called for harm to supporters, of which there are many, of the Make America Great Again movement. Be careful what you wish for Max!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 25, 2018
― Karl Malone, Monday, 25 June 2018 17:20 (seven years ago)
Uh, I don't think he needs to leave office for that tbh.
― womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2018 17:22 (seven years ago)
Mid-Continent Nail of Poplar Bluff, Mo., the largest U.S. nail manufacturer, cut 60 jobs on June 15 and plans to lay off an additional 200 workers in a few days, citing plummeting sales following the imposition of Trump’s metals tariffs. The company said it may not survive past Labor Day if it doesn’t get relief from the tariffs.
“It’s not just us. There will be many, many companies that will pay a price for this,” said George Skarich, vice president of sales and marketing. “I’m disappointed in Trump. We didn’t see this coming.”
Mid-Continent’s orders for July are only 30 percent of what they were last year, and Skarich is afraid that many of his lost customers will never return.
Skarich voted for Trump, as did 79 percent of surrounding Butler County.
didn't see it coming eh
― Οὖτις, Monday, 25 June 2018 17:22 (seven years ago)
tbf, they had it on good authority that trade wars are good, and easy to win
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 25 June 2018 17:24 (seven years ago)
xposttrue, but it's going to be a fucking nightmare once he does. no matter how it happens, in court or in an election, he'll claim that it was rigged and that the successor's government is illegitimate. it's almost unthinkable that he WON'T do that.
― Karl Malone, Monday, 25 June 2018 17:25 (seven years ago)
xpostpoplar bluff is a piece of shit town
Someone has a sad.
NEW: Paul Manafort is appealing his bail revocation, 10 days after being jailed for alleged witness tampering pic.twitter.com/inmQ9Sd9RS— TheBeat w/Ari Melber (@TheBeatWithAri) June 25, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 June 2018 17:35 (seven years ago)
it's almost unthinkable that he WON'T do that.
although many people are saying that Trump is the healthiest person ever elected president, and many other people are saying he is God's chosen instrument to do His will here in the USA, it should be noted that he plays much golf in Florida and there is always the chance he will be struck by lightning and God will call him home.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 25 June 2018 17:41 (seven years ago)
If he is about to get struck by lightning, you'll notice his hair will first stand up and then quickly dart away to find shelter in a nearby burrow.
― Evan, Monday, 25 June 2018 17:55 (seven years ago)
I would trade convictions for the lot of them for Erik Prince doing time.
Yeah, he is #1 on my wishlist.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 25 June 2018 18:22 (seven years ago)
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, June 25, 2018 5:43 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I mean, the optics of this.
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Monday, 25 June 2018 18:29 (seven years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/QwMdUGO.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/a0ZwElB.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/rJo6aYm.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/v4fyb9g.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/5iVAzs9.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/Vevgvtd.pnghttps://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/us/politics/trump-women-north-korea.html
― Karl Malone, Monday, 25 June 2018 18:37 (seven years ago)
mow them all down
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 25 June 2018 18:39 (seven years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/a0ZwElB.pnghttp://classicrockmag.nl/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/itcotck.jpg
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 25 June 2018 18:40 (seven years ago)
is that rose in a 40oz bottle on their table
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 25 June 2018 18:45 (seven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twdpYiW6B8A
― tsrobodo, Monday, 25 June 2018 18:45 (seven years ago)
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, June 25, 2018
it's a quart of baby's blood.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 June 2018 18:46 (seven years ago)
worst Carrie remake ever
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 25 June 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
"A model walked the runway to the North Korean national anthem" ?!!
― visiting, Monday, 25 June 2018 18:52 (seven years ago)
ah ok sorry i didn't click through.
― visiting, Monday, 25 June 2018 18:53 (seven years ago)
amazing photos
― i want to get cancer (map), Monday, 25 June 2018 18:56 (seven years ago)
i think my new goal for 2018 is to heckle a republican politician
― i want to get cancer (map), Monday, 25 June 2018 19:00 (seven years ago)
good! hecklers i feel really need to step their game up in these trying times
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 25 June 2018 19:08 (seven years ago)
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, June 25, 2018 6:45 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
whole foods sells these now, its maybe the most overtly racist thing i've ever seen at a grocery store
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 25 June 2018 19:11 (seven years ago)
how
how would u open one of those
― under a mand'rin tsar (darraghmac), Monday, 25 June 2018 19:15 (seven years ago)
Whole Foods, which btw is now owned 100% by Amazon
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 25 June 2018 19:17 (seven years ago)
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/1d/56/7a/1d567aa8ebc51d1026ce928bafdc22ba.jpg
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 25 June 2018 19:38 (seven years ago)
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/930e3825857007.5634bd0ed1870.jpg
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 25 June 2018 19:42 (seven years ago)
http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/lookandlearn-preview/M/M808/M808295.jpg
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 25 June 2018 19:44 (seven years ago)
I recommend bringing a nice, solid prop.
― Simon H., Monday, 25 June 2018 19:50 (seven years ago)
amazing how CNN and MSNBC have spent the entire day whining about liberal incivility while thousands of MAGAheads threaten to burn down completely unaffiliated restaurants in other states
maybe Trump was right about the media after all
― frogbs, Monday, 25 June 2018 19:51 (seven years ago)
they shouldve given Sarah Sour a nice dessert in the face
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 June 2018 19:55 (seven years ago)
An attorney says a woman, who finally did get to talk to her 7-year-old daughter, says she couldn’t understand what the little girl was saying because she was crying so hard. “The only thing the child (said) that she could hear: ‘Mom you don’t love me why did you leave me .’”— Sonia Moghe (@soniamoghe) June 25, 2018
yes this is very sad but what about the time Huckasanders was kicked out of a restaurant
― frogbs, Monday, 25 June 2018 19:55 (seven years ago)
btw a number of people have noted a number of consistent responses along these lines and have speculated that these kids are being told that their parents abandoned them
― frogbs, Monday, 25 June 2018 20:08 (seven years ago)
It’s encouraging that Sarah Huckabee Sanders was judged not by the color of her skin but by the content of her character.— Anthony King (@theanthonyking) June 23, 2018
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 June 2018 21:05 (seven years ago)
“btw a number of people have noted a number of consistent responses along these lines and have speculated that these kids are being told that their parents abandoned them”― frogbs, Monday, June 25, 2018 1:08 PM (one hour ago)
Is there any recommended reading on this?
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 25 June 2018 21:40 (seven years ago)
Federal prosecutors, quite reasonably, view Michael Avenatti as a loose cannon and not as an ally. They don't like his antics. https://t.co/MngZKhnR6j— ThisIsNotNormalHat (@Popehat) June 25, 2018
According to a fuller email exchange shared by Avenatti, Assistant US Attorney Nicolas Roos responded that the meeting was canceled because "we have learned that you leaked to the press the fact and location of our meeting with your client.""Such leaks are inappropriate in and of themselves, and more importantly, call into question your commitment to maintaining the required confidentiality of the substance of our meeting with your client," Roos said. "Such confidentiality is critical to the diligence, fairness, and integrity of this, and indeed all, investigations conducted by this Office. For these reasons we have cancelled our meeting, and will reassess how to proceed."
"Such leaks are inappropriate in and of themselves, and more importantly, call into question your commitment to maintaining the required confidentiality of the substance of our meeting with your client," Roos said. "Such confidentiality is critical to the diligence, fairness, and integrity of this, and indeed all, investigations conducted by this Office. For these reasons we have cancelled our meeting, and will reassess how to proceed."
#basta
― Karl Malone, Monday, 25 June 2018 21:57 (seven years ago)
lmao owned
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 25 June 2018 22:00 (seven years ago)
avenatti kind of reminds me of alan grayson - a smart guy that you want to cheer for but he just won't shut the fuck up
― Karl Malone, Monday, 25 June 2018 22:01 (seven years ago)
Did he get involved in the Southern border situation or was that just advertising.
― Stevolende, Monday, 25 June 2018 22:17 (seven years ago)
ah right looks like he came out with some ideas down there taht haven't been very popular.& apparently leaked the names of his clients to mass media which is being frowned on.Maybe Avenatti is just too much of an egotist, hoped he might be some help.
― Stevolende, Monday, 25 June 2018 22:32 (seven years ago)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/06/25/trumps-approval-plummets-way-way-down-to-where-its-been-for-a-while/?utm_term=.10aac9f88674
― Οὖτις, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:06 (seven years ago)
We're through the looking glass - Trump is now tweeting about Lynch:
“Director David Lynch: Trump Could Go Down as One of the Greatest Presidents” https://t.co/AcgnIZNh6e— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 25, 2018
― Zelda Zonk, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:12 (seven years ago)
Hopefully lynch will have the sense not to respond
― Karl Malone, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:18 (seven years ago)
David Lynch takes paychecks from massive con artists like Transcendental Meditation. How do you all think the world works?
― funzone76, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:20 (seven years ago)
of course he's tweeting about him, Lynch is a celebrity filmmaker
― Οὖτις, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:21 (seven years ago)
uh oh is that my cozen Larry
You guys really are scared to face reality, huh. Man! Why do you even bother???
― funzone76, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:22 (seven years ago)
Avenatti is just too much of an egotist
He's just the usual publicity hound, looking to goose up his business at the high end money and inflate his hourly rates. The fact that he has been able to look x10 smarter than Cohen, Giuliani, and Trump's entire legal team is mostly based on the fact that he was dealing with people with very pedestrian legal abilities and an out-of-control client.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 25 June 2018 23:24 (seven years ago)
my dude perhaps youtube is a better medium for your conspiracy theory bullshit
xp i'm talking to the mushroom
― maura, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:25 (seven years ago)
(funzone guy, fungi, etc)
Conspiracy theory? Do a websearch, Lynch is a key dude in their marketing materials. Cripes.
― funzone76, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:26 (seven years ago)
You people really are so innocent, aren't you all.
lmaoooo
― maura, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:27 (seven years ago)
who even are you, gtfoh
he's larry appleton
― Karl Malone, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:27 (seven years ago)
How can you expect to fight these battles and win when you're in this state? Geez. I've been trying to help with the shit you hate, but none of you can handle it.
Whatever! I'm moving on, packing my shit uup, and headin' out.
― funzone76, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:27 (seven years ago)
bye!!!!!!!!
― maura, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:28 (seven years ago)
funzone's self-regard is dialed up to 11, as per usual. how about we invite him to go be totally awesomely in-the-know in some other neck of the internet? reddit, maybe.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 25 June 2018 23:29 (seven years ago)
Avenatti has been doing great with the Stormy Daniels/Cohen stuff, keeping it in the news, advancing the story. He seems overextended/distracted with the border stuff, but I think he has been a net-positive, even if even he can't escape the inexorable march of the exhausting Trump news cycle.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:31 (seven years ago)
Maura, you get mad at ME for easily confirmable facts outside my control that sheds light to help you make sense of things, answering questions you all had.
Would you prefer to live in a fantasy world? Great. Get crushed because of it. That's the end result going that road.
It's not my job, man. Altruism has brought me nothing but trouble.
― funzone76, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:33 (seven years ago)
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 25 June 2018 23:34 (seven years ago)
i think avenatti got himself involved in the border stuff / caged children because he sensed that his time in the spotlight was fading. he's not trying to escape the exhausting trump news cycle, he's trying to make sure he remains a part of it
― Karl Malone, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:35 (seven years ago)
i definitely know about lynch's meditation interest so try again on that. i look forward to not watching your 45-minute videos exposing THE REAL STORIES
― maura, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:43 (seven years ago)
Do you know how much money is involved in that stuff? Way more than being a film director.
Maura... geez. How about you stop being a coward, and join me in the abyss.
― funzone76, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:45 (seven years ago)
if it's full of charmers like you i'll pass
― maura, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:48 (seven years ago)
It's information to help you navigate the world and strategize, because I'm not sure you appreciate what's going on right now. I'm an info junkie because I'm a fucking masochist who can handle it.
Whatever. I was clearly wrong with my agenda here.
― funzone76, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:50 (seven years ago)
Pearls before swine. Whatever. I'm done 100% with this crap.
Uuuugh do we really have to wait for 51 with this guy
― Dan I., Monday, 25 June 2018 23:52 (seven years ago)
I was an idealistic idiot. That I'll admit. Prodigal son, I'll come back.
Stay in your fantasy worlds, get crushed. Could give a rat's dick. Laterz!!!
― funzone76, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:53 (seven years ago)
he has to say he's leaving 51 times before he'll actually leave
― gbx, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:54 (seven years ago)
Having a hard time deciding which hysterical self-righteous post to fp tbh
― Οὖτις, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:54 (seven years ago)
Fine, whatever, I'm gone. I was a fucking utopian idiot. Grew up. Seeya!
― funzone76, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:55 (seven years ago)
Oh good you’re still here
― Οὖτις, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:56 (seven years ago)
J/k
I hate these long goodbyes.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 25 June 2018 23:57 (seven years ago)
Larry. Fuck the fucking fuck off.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 June 2018 23:58 (seven years ago)
I'm not sure if:
1) You guys are really weak; or 2) You guys are insiders who hate me talking about this
If 2), at least you could've given me a "lol"!
― funzone76, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:02 (seven years ago)
If 1), this shit upsets you, prepare for 10,000 times worse. Man. I'm just trying to be nice here, and you tell me to go fuck myself.
― funzone76, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:03 (seven years ago)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/80/Longposter.jpg/225px-Longposter.jpg
― womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:20 (seven years ago)
very entertaining thread!
― Dan S, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:22 (seven years ago)
Elloit Gould's gerat in that movie, first half hour of him is just grumbling
― funzone76, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:23 (seven years ago)
unlike larry, who's breathing out of his mouth
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:30 (seven years ago)
i'm weak and also an insider who hates you talking about this
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:33 (seven years ago)
Great. Well, I'll stop then, cuz I'm clearly a fucking utopian moron, and learned my lesson here.
― funzone76, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:38 (seven years ago)
i thought you stopped like an hour ago
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:39 (seven years ago)
this is one of the most hyped exits of the century
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:39 (seven years ago)
Larry even if you were a uniquely brilliant warrior for truth, you are very bad at posting, this is the main reason people are telling you to stop posting
― devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:39 (seven years ago)
*the bachelorette voice*
"COMING UP..."
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:40 (seven years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/o9BLSy7.gif
― womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:42 (seven years ago)
I don't think that at all, silby. I just come from a Fist of the North Star world, so I'm adjusting myself here. I'm a lot more charming in person, but in person, I'd never tell you these thoughts.
Because I'm a weak motherfucker, too! HA! Guess what? I'm as frustrated as you all are, I just have no use for pretense. Throw it all out there.
― funzone76, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:44 (seven years ago)
How drawn up you all are in my schtick, I'm good at this, right? No shit I understand this stuff. Hurrrrr.
― funzone76, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:46 (seven years ago)
What good is life without pretense or a warm towel against your head?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:49 (seven years ago)
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5909515e6552fa0be682bce9/master/w_727,c_limit/dr-strangelove-still-580.jpg
― Swedes and Löw (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:53 (seven years ago)
So there we go: The whistleblower client Michael Avenatti teased allegedly got footage of one of the child camps in the southwest, which will supposedly be broadcast on MSNBC shortly.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 01:27 (seven years ago)
NOW what happened? just larry?
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 03:48 (seven years ago)
Larry was the whistleblower. Rip buddy
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 03:50 (seven years ago)
APPLETON, LAWRENCE Larry Appleton was born in Everett, Massachusetts on May 12, 1933 and left this world on June 25, 2018. Larry lived in Florida for over 50 years and considered himself a transplanted Yankee. He loved his home in Geneva, Florida where he lived with his loving wife, Micki, for 44 years. Their home on Lake Harney was one of his passions and he often said that looking out his kitchen window onto the lake was like medicine to him. He loved the lake, fishing and boating. Both he and Micki enjoyed gardening. Their young children were raised on their mini ranch and have many wonderful memories of this time. Larry served in the United States Coast Guard before moving to Florida and then spent his entire 33 year working career at Martin Marietta. He was responsible for the company's food service, recreation and travel programs in Orlando and other facilities. Larry leaves behind his beloved wife, Micki, who has been his guiding angel; children, Lee Fedi, Alan Stuart Appleton, Jill Lund, Sandy Appleton, Judith Procell and Scott Appleton along with 10 grandchildren and 2 great grandchildren.
― velko, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 03:58 (seven years ago)
(takes hat off, places it against his chest for a moment, replaces it on his head)
let's get back to the business of US politics
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 04:01 (seven years ago)
larry is an object lesson in why sb was better than fp
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 07:12 (seven years ago)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/us/video-diatribe-mexicans.html
A man and his mother were doing yard work in California when a woman unleashed a diatribe against Mexicans, and — invoking President Trump — called them rapists, animals and drug dealers.The encounter was captured in a video that was posted on Twitter early Monday morning and had been viewed more than two million times by night.In the video, which lasts about 35 seconds, the man — identified as Esteban Guzman — went back and forth with the unidentified woman, who at one point appeared to make a vulgar gesture with her middle finger.“Why do you hate us?” Mr. Guzman asked.“Because you’re Mexicans,” the woman said.Mr. Guzman told the woman that “we’re honest people.” She laughed and countered with her own impressions: “Rapists. Animals. Drug dealers.” She mentioned the president, who has at times made similar remarks about illegal immigrants coming across the border, often from Mexico.
The encounter was captured in a video that was posted on Twitter early Monday morning and had been viewed more than two million times by night.
In the video, which lasts about 35 seconds, the man — identified as Esteban Guzman — went back and forth with the unidentified woman, who at one point appeared to make a vulgar gesture with her middle finger.
“Why do you hate us?” Mr. Guzman asked.
“Because you’re Mexicans,” the woman said.
Mr. Guzman told the woman that “we’re honest people.” She laughed and countered with her own impressions: “Rapists. Animals. Drug dealers.” She mentioned the president, who has at times made similar remarks about illegal immigrants coming across the border, often from Mexico.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 11:32 (seven years ago)
"Be careful what you wish for."I knew I'd seen this Trump tweet before. https://t.co/sZ1Uh3oNNr pic.twitter.com/wnufVhHYnJ— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) June 25, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 12:06 (seven years ago)
Imagine what it would be like if we had the world's *most* racist person as president.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 12:16 (seven years ago)
i give zero fucks about HD in general but this is insane
A Harley-Davidson should never be built in another country-never! Their employees and customers are already very angry at them. If they move, watch, it will be the beginning of the end - they surrendered, they quit! The Aura will be gone and they will be taxed like never before!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 26, 2018
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 12:25 (seven years ago)
Cannot wait until the Trumpists start going after bikers*. May they get the Altamont they so richly deserve.
(*Note: unsure of how much overlap there is in the 'biker/Trumpist' Venn diagram)
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 12:35 (seven years ago)
Big overlap, although the bikers, like all suburban dads, would deny it whenever it’s convenient
― Dan I., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 12:38 (seven years ago)
Well, then, I look forward to bikers attempting to reconcile their divided loyalties. Have a feeling Trump ain't gonna come out on top with that one.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 12:52 (seven years ago)
trump vs. harley davidson has to be the quintessential racist baby boomer version of sophie's choice— M//R (@BillyWerner) June 26, 2018
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 13:00 (seven years ago)
So I fixed the controversial TIME Magazine cover. This is much more appropriate. You’re welcome @time pic.twitter.com/VMDtGTj5Zy— Jim Carrey (@JimCarrey) June 25, 2018
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 13:02 (seven years ago)
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:52 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
My Trump-loving father-in-law worked for Harley for several years and has owned them his entire life. I haven't seen his take on this contretemps yet but I find it very hard to imagine anything compelling him to sour on our soft wet oaf president at this point. Most likely he'll just separate the bikes and the good honest folk who work in the shops and factories from the out-of-touch assholes in corporate/upper management.
― evol j, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:00 (seven years ago)
I just checked his FB page for the first time in a while and he recently shared a dank meme of a little Mexican girl petting a big German shepherd that says "They'll Turn Out Good if You Raise Them Right...The Dog Too." Lovely.
― evol j, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:04 (seven years ago)
That management v line workers opinion comes so so soooooo close to a breakthrough tho xp
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:05 (seven years ago)
haha right, maybe i'm giving too much credit. siding with the proletariat to own the libs.
― evol j, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:07 (seven years ago)
i like how this red-meat red-state all-american has now publicly shit on both the NFL and Harley-Davidson
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:10 (seven years ago)
They can take it, because they're American!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)
Gotta get NASCAR involved somehow.
― ~ cows come home (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:46 (seven years ago)
BRB, gonna go start a line of car window stickers which replace Calvin with a cartoon version of Trump peeing on the various entities he's slagged off in his tweets. Gonna make a mint.
(P.S. Said stickers will be made with only the most toxic materials I can find. Which I figure is philosophically right in line with my anti-regulation customer base.)
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:53 (seven years ago)
Muslim ban upheld by SC
― sleeve, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:59 (seven years ago)
asbestos scratch and sniffs are the way to go xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:59 (seven years ago)
5-4 vote huh? fucking cock sucker McConnell is to blame for this shit xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:05 (seven years ago)
Congrats on making it happen, America. Become who you are. Let there be no doubt as to your true nature.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:07 (seven years ago)
I'm at the point where I genuinely don't think this country is going to get un-fucked in my lifetime. Once this garbage starts getting set in stone by SC decisions, the paths to fixing things in Trump's wake become ever narrower.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:09 (seven years ago)
Giving a tyrant enough rope is a terrible strategy and for the millionth time since 2016, time is not our friend. fatigue and internal turnover makes successful resistance ever less likely. but fine, wait for midterms.
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:11 (seven years ago)
yea it's not even so much today's rulings as it is the constant gerrymandering which require the Dems to win by 10 points in order to gain a seat. kinda underscores my ongoing theory that politics is just one giant game of Prisoner's Dilemma, wherein Obama tried to play nice and civil and got utterly fucked for it, while the GOP gleefully screws over everyone, breaks the law, and abuses the rules, and got rewarded with total power that will last a generation
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:14 (seven years ago)
NYC folks: there's a rally at Foley Square at 6.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:24 (seven years ago)
I know the incumbent party doesn't do great in the midterms but I still say insist that Obama and Rahm's decision to let the banksters skate after destroying the economy in 2008 sealed their fate to get sonned in 2010
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:26 (seven years ago)
also helped trump's rhetoric about everything being 'rigged' in 2016
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:27 (seven years ago)
This one will surely be the one that brings the administration to its knees.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:39 (seven years ago)
fuck off
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:41 (seven years ago)
public displays of solidarity and resistance are important in and of themselves
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:42 (seven years ago)
just thought people might want to know ffs xps
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:42 (seven years ago)
no you're good , i might stop by now that i know
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:43 (seven years ago)
possibly; I've only found them deeply depressing. particularly the ones with cheering when there is nothing to cheer about
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:43 (seven years ago)
Well you need to remain optimistic otherwise you just give up innit?
Is this just endless nihilism on the GOP side. I guess they're all oldish or whatever so they don't care what happens over the next 50 years BUt I'm still assuming there is a supposedly logical teleological end somewhere. maybe an epistemology that views dark skin as human is too out of step with this prevailing ethos.BUt do have to hope taht something is going to stop this before whatever version of nazism, fascism MAGAism takes over completely.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:44 (seven years ago)
so what's the alternative? yelling at people on the internets, doing nothing , having a bake sale ? xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:44 (seven years ago)
there is absolutely no reason to be optimistic given the chain of events, and optimism has been proven wrong daily since 2016, sometimes spectacularly wrong
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:45 (seven years ago)
xp there is no alternative, that's the worst part
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:46 (seven years ago)
optimism and nihilism are two sides of the same coin, swinging radically in either direction is not really helpful tbh
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:46 (seven years ago)
the joy is in the struggle, y'all - resistance is a valid end in and of itself
― sleeve, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:47 (seven years ago)
y'all know there are actual groups doing shit you can join or support, right
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:48 (seven years ago)
I mean, no? children are going to be carted to detention centers regardless of whether I stand in a street at 5:30 p.m. today, take a nap, or die
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:48 (seven years ago)
fuck that! there are all kinds of things to be optimistic about one being the amount of young people I encounter regularly that are out doing good things and fighting for what they believe in.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:48 (seven years ago)
Leave the US.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:49 (seven years ago)
the correct response is to figure out what needs to be done, find people who share your goals who are doing it, and work with them to get it done
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:49 (seven years ago)
wallowing in despair is counterproductive
there's plenty to do. ICE just got kicked out of Portland and right here next door to me last night the Springfield jail canceled their ICE contract because a fuckton of people showed up to protest at the meeting.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:50 (seven years ago)
Seriously, other people have had to leave their countries for generations due to colonial violence, tyranny, political upheaval, etc., why not Americans?
xps
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:50 (seven years ago)
xp -- it's great how people just say "leave the US" as if that were a thing that were possible in today's world for most people without resources and incredible luck
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:51 (seven years ago)
because of the people that would get left behind and what would happen to them, that's why
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:51 (seven years ago)
the only way to stop this shit is to win elections
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:52 (seven years ago)
I thought resistance fed on optimism that there is going to be a way of ending things. So would hope it was a spirit that kept people going since it is more positive than desperation.I thought desperation was energy sucking.
I'm not saying optimism is the end in itself, just thinking it is something that helps drive people forward and not retreat into a corner.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:53 (seven years ago)
It is well known that only such people move to other countries ever.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:53 (seven years ago)
and conveniently for them, the GOP is making that increasingly more difficult via gerrymandering, voter restriction laws and the like
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:53 (seven years ago)
Those with resources and incredible luck, that is.
ah, mourning
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:54 (seven years ago)
xp -- yes, and it is well known that people without resources or incredible luck have great odds and a hearty welcome moving to other countries, as evidenced by (gestures broadly to the news)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:54 (seven years ago)
This Is Just the Beginning
I do not believe that Trump administration officials should be able to live their lives in peace and affluence while they inflict serious harms on large portions of the American population. Not being able to go to restaurants and attend parties and be celebrated is just the minimum baseline here. These people, who are pushing America merrily down the road to fascism and white nationalism, are delusional if they do not think that the backlash is going to get much worse. Wait until the recession comes. Wait until Trump starts a war. Wait until the racism this administration is stoking begins to explode into violence more frequently. Read a fucking history book. Read a recent history book. The U.S. had thousands of domestic bombings per year in the early 1970s. This is what happens when citizens decide en masse that their political system is corrupt, racist, and unresponsive. The people out of power have only just begun to flex their dissatisfaction. The day will come, sooner that you all think, when Trump administration officials will look back fondly on the time when all they had to worry about was getting hollered at at a Mexican restaurant.
Of course, I'm also in favor of working within the system where possible, but bombings (of congressional offices and the like) and assassinations (not the big man, but local and state level and above) are frankly A-OK by me.
Re leaving the US, I think about it every fucking day and am taking concrete steps in that direction which I opt not to share with the group. It's hard but it's not impossible. People tell you it is to keep you cowering in place.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:56 (seven years ago)
I mean, precisely?
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:56 (seven years ago)
I mean, just speaking for me -- very far toward the privileged/with-resources end of the axis here, compared to most people who might leave their country -- it would be impossible unless I married someone who lived elsewhere (getting to the marriage stage is difficult enough under normal circumstances) and/or found a job abroad (getting a job is also difficult enough under normal circumstances, and I have basically zero job skills anyone gives a shit about)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:57 (seven years ago)
This doesn't read impossible to me. Pain in the ass? Sure. Impossible? Hardly.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:04 (seven years ago)
quitters
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:05 (seven years ago)
this is my country, I ain't leaving it
my family's been here since the fucking 1680s, and in California since the 1890s I'm not ceding it to a bunch of fascist fuckwits
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:06 (seven years ago)
People being forced to migrate (often due to American musadventure) is not the same as voluntarily leaving the US. You have options.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:07 (seven years ago)
my father's father moved here from Germany (after being imprisoned in Portugal) under a certain set of adverse circumstances around 1940, I have all the documents I need to apply for German naturalization, so
― devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:09 (seven years ago)
When I feel down and useless about the state of everything I try to keep in mind that there has suddenly been a mainstreaming of knowledge about things such as intersectionality, black culture, confirmation bias racism etc. I've been really hard on myself the last couple of years for being naive about so much of it. But on the other hand, I also think that growing old in the US is unsustainable for the majority of people. I don't want to spend the last decades of my life worried that getting sick will completely bankrupt me.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:10 (seven years ago)
i'll admit i don't really follow non-US politics much at all, but my general sense is that Europe is...pretty much just as shitty? not every country of course but generally speaking there's plenty of incipient facism and demonizing of migrants/refugees.
― evol j, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:14 (seven years ago)
xp — pretty sure writing a few reviews of american CDs from time to time does not qualify one for a freelance visa, and that is all I am capable of
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:14 (seven years ago)
Europe is v much just as shitty (and probably even more racist)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:15 (seven years ago)
also xo yeah, Europe has its own far right resurgence
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:15 (seven years ago)
Incipient fascism in some places? Sure. Ubiquitous gun violence? A nonexistent healthcare system? Not so much.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:16 (seven years ago)
so Canada it is then? I've made my peace with Drake.
― evol j, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:17 (seven years ago)
Antarctica is looking pretty good to me tbh. Get in before it melts away.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:17 (seven years ago)
but then the shoggoths will get you!
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:18 (seven years ago)
I think I might take my chances with the shoggoths.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:19 (seven years ago)
I am in France/UK like 2 months out of the year. This trip I feel like there is more annoyance/hostility towards Americans (prolly some even from me, ha!)
― Yerac, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:20 (seven years ago)
Also I fully endorse shunning friends/family who are pro this shitshow and publicly shaming Trump officials.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:21 (seven years ago)
I think Canadians' perception of the US deteriorated the most since fuckface-in-chief got elected.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:23 (seven years ago)
My brother worked in Australia for a couple of months during Dubya's presidency, and the anti-American sentiment at that time made him miserable. I can't even imagine how much the world must despise us at this point. Thank goodness for my facility wrt accent mimicry, is alls I'm sayin'.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:28 (seven years ago)
As a consolation prize, you can count on being welcomed with arms wide open in Russia, North Korea, Israel and the Philippines, among other stalwart bastions of human rights.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:29 (seven years ago)
Israel is probably my best option lol
― devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:31 (seven years ago)
Not judging others here for their reactions/actions but: I am far less worried about myself (and what will ostensibly happen to my straight white male ass) than what is being done to other, less-privileged humans.
Given that my beef with the Trumpoid program is that it systematically degrades and oppresses people of color, women, the poor, the disabled, sexual minorities... what good does MY leaving for France (or whatever) accomplish?
tl;dr: Outic OTM
― ~ cows come home (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:32 (seven years ago)
exactly, there is also that; I just do not feel there is anything I can do personally, with my given location, skill set, personality, and clout, to even move the dial on that. even voting doesn't do shit because I live in a solidly blue state (this includes primary day; even if I could vote in the primaries, which I can't, I don't live in any of the contested districts)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:35 (seven years ago)
I also think that growing old in the US is unsustainable for the majority of people. I don't want to spend the last decades of my life worried that getting sick will completely bankrupt me.
This is a major factor in my decision-making.
Oh, horseshit. You sound like a MAGA chud who's never left his home state.
What it boils down to is I have no sentimental attachment to America-the-idea. I want a good (better, happier) life for me and my wife. If that was gonna happen here, I'd stay. It's not, so I'm gonna do what it takes to get the fuck out.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:36 (seven years ago)
This is very simple to me.
Organized, regular everyday people and their movements are responsible for the most significant social improvements of the last century. And there's no movement without one turning into two, turning into three, and so on.
Voting sometimes matters a great deal; often it doesn't. What matters most is keeping power-holders accountable and, when useful, afraid of the rest of us.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:37 (seven years ago)
An inability to grow old and to raise a family on a median income were big reasons we left the USA three years. There is here in France the threat of fascism and a deep seated suspicion of non French among about 1/3 of French people but I’ll take my chances there compared with the American situation—-especially as a Latino. And here in France“all sides” recognize the seriousness of fascism, a seriousness that is scarce in the USA at large. We will need slide into fascism—-if we do it, it will be with clarity.
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:38 (seven years ago)
yes, and it is well known that people without resources or incredible luck have great odds and a hearty welcome moving to other countries, as evidenced by (gestures broadly to the news)
Go to Scotland, they need more people there.
― womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:39 (seven years ago)
There's an art and maybe even a science to movement building, and active participation can take a lot of forms: protesting, sure, but donating, or having conversations with people to poke at their own complicity, or feeding or housing or clothing movement people, or child care, or making time and space for the tired and burned out
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:40 (seven years ago)
*not* slide into fascism xp
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:40 (seven years ago)
anyway personally i have very little to lose these days and am willing to bite it if it comes to it
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:42 (seven years ago)
xp -- the only one of those things I am capable of doing (people don't usually want to talk to me in general, let alone about burnout or complicity) I've applied to countless child-care jobs and volunteer roles and been rejected) is donation, and while I do that, as I understand it organizations tend to be flooded with donations in the wake of events like the 2016 election, to the point where any individual contribution accomplishes next to nothing. (not even political donations or money, too; for instance, donating clothes often gets your clothes sent to landfills as rags or, alternatively, sent to other countries to sell at rock-bottom cost and ruin their textile economies)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:44 (seven years ago)
Organized, regular everyday people and their movements are responsible for the most significant social improvements of the last century.
The gay rights movement went from near invisibility in the closet in 1965 to gay marriage in 2015 because they started to organize relentlessly, formed alliances, lobbied, protested, and took to the streets.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:44 (seven years ago)
Decent people leaving gives evil fux0rz free rein to do what they will to the downtrodden. What they have always wanted to do.
Dunno about you, but my conscience doesn't sit well with the idea of sitting comfortably in a Dublin pub while the Pence Patrol (tm) rounds up disabled black kids in Philadelphia. Or whatever.
― ~ cows come home (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:45 (seven years ago)
shakey and hoos simultaneously otm
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:45 (seven years ago)
xpost Would you be surprised at all if those advances and rights were suddenly reversed with a court decision or sweep of the pen? I wouldn't. That's where we are now.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:49 (seven years ago)
There’s always someone that genuinely needs your money. My town has an escalating homeless crisis and a useless waste of a mayor unable to stand up to Amazon and Vulcan when trying to pass piddling tax measures to do something about it. So I funnel money into a couple supportive housing orgs. They are mostly funded by restricted grants and contracts and big dollar donors but I’m pretty confident unrestricted small dollar donors are helping pay for case workers and toilet paper. If you’re concerned about the impact of your dollar, keep your money close to home and give it to orgs you trust that are trying to house your neighbors sleeping outside.My imo.
― devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:50 (seven years ago)
anyway personally i have very little to lose these days and am willing to bite it if it comes to itI understand where you’re coming from here, but you should know that we all want you to gradually and gracefully turn into old man hoos shaking your fist at the bullshit, all the way to the very end. The willingness to sacrifice is noble, but it will be very hard for a single act to outweigh all the good things you’re going to help create for the rest of your life.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:57 (seven years ago)
This SC ruling on the CA abortion law is bullshit. How can you be a licensed or unlicensed clinic and be allowed to lie to your patients and not give full medical care?
― Yerac, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:59 (seven years ago)
Feel like I need to just start ignoring as much of what's going on at the national level as I can and refocus all of the energy I burn on anxiety towards local initiatives. Mad props to anyone who has the wherewithal to tackle federal-level bullshit, but it all just feels way too overwhelming to me. Hunkering down and taking care of local vulnerable communities feels much more doable, and I think it's going to become increasingly important as this shitshow continues.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:00 (seven years ago)
anyway, apologies if I've upset anyone, I just genuinely do believe that A) things are going to get worse, and there is a chance they are going to get much worse; they've already gotten much worse than people were expecting, the mainstreaming of actual Nazis being an excellent example, and B) both the system and my personality are such that I am useless at best, and more likely actively making things worse.
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:00 (seven years ago)
silby is otm, there are always orgs and initiatives happening where individual donations are actually are impactful
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:00 (seven years ago)
Would you be surprised at all if those advances and rights were suddenly reversed with a court decision or sweep of the pen? I wouldn't. That's where we are now.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, June 26, 2018 4:49 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no, i wouldn't be surprised--the battle never really ends. all we get to do is choose our side, fight, and advance.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:03 (seven years ago)
Legal mobilization is a thing movements do, too.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:04 (seven years ago)
I mean, as far as legal mobilization, assuming you're talking about the courts (apologies if you're not) the end game for that is to go to the Gorsuch Supreme Court
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:05 (seven years ago)
I fully believe it's going to get a lot worse too. But I am not going to change. As a woman, I am taking great joy in really feeling my natural assholishness protrude by calling Trumpster ideologies out in public when I see it occur. I don't feel like that will ever flag no matter how hopeless it seems. I have been thinking a little of moving residences from NYC to GA for voting reasons.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:06 (seven years ago)
the battle never really ends. all we get to do is choose our side, fight, and advance.
^^^ wisdom.
never expect a permanent victory. There is no such thing, really.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:06 (seven years ago)
Besides movements on the left, what greater evidence do we need of the power of organized protest than what the right has done since the late '70 in reversing decades of New Deal/Great Society advancements?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:08 (seven years ago)
for instance, with the travel ban, I remember people celebrating lower court victories, which have all essentially been nullified as I understand it. (and I don't know how indexed this thread is, but I will say that this is something that may have direct repercussions for my family. probably already has)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:09 (seven years ago)
The thing anyone can do no matter what their circumstances or abilities is to stick to their ideological guns no matter how grave things get or how much despair may threaten to overwhelm, particularly as the normalization sets in and people slowly capitulate in response.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:12 (seven years ago)
europe is much better than the US fyi just clarifyin not bragging
― under a mand'rin tsar (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:12 (seven years ago)
I remember people celebrating lower court victories, which have all essentially been nullified as I understand it
they delayed implementation of the ban for over a year. people got safely into the country because of that.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:14 (seven years ago)
donating to this guy fyihttps://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/swing-CA-10-left?refcode=20180525_em&link_id=1&can_id=53c9aca1103164752a73897299ff1df1&source=email-ca-10-meet-your-new-nominee&email_referrer=email_365197&email_subject=ca-10-meet-your-new-nominee
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:18 (seven years ago)
true, but going forward? I'm sure people affected will be very heartened knowing that it's OK, a few people were okay because they happened to want to enter/exit the US a year ago. (and this is even without taking into account that protesting is exactly what the administration/bannon wing specifically wanted and planned for)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:18 (seven years ago)
specifically, his comments were that he timed the implementation of the ban "so the snowflakes would show up at the airports and riot"
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:20 (seven years ago)
I didn't say it was okay, I was pointing out the direct positive effect that legal challenges had.
But I get that you're on this "the cup isn't just half empty, THERE IS NO CUP" steez, it's just tiresome and not helpful. you are not telling anybody here anything we don't already know.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:21 (seven years ago)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, June 26, 2018 5:05 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
for now. maybe it's naive of me to even have a long game in mind in days like these, but yknow, pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:22 (seven years ago)
I mean, sorry? I honestly don't know what people want me to do, other than pretend things are good when they are bad
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:22 (seven years ago)
donate time and money and stop the handwringing
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:22 (seven years ago)
shakey you're being a dick
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:23 (seven years ago)
probably
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:25 (seven years ago)
Not to be all eyes-on-the-prize, but we're in at the culmination of a giant backlash that has been brewing for decades. It could be prolonged and fundamentally alter the course of the next century in the United States -- or it could be a four-year wildfire that does a lot of damage but burns itself out before it consumes anything irreparable (like, the Constitution). The latter is every bit as likely as the former, and the difference will be how hard people fight for it.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:31 (seven years ago)
https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN1JM1FO
“A Harley-Davidson should never be built in another country-never! Their employees and customers are already very angry at them,” Trump said on Twitter early on Tuesday. “If they move, watch, it will be the beginning of the end - they surrendered, they quit! The Aura will be gone and they will be taxed like never before!” Trump said.It was unclear what taxes Trump was referring to, and why the company might have to pay them, since it intends to maintain production in the United States for U.S. customers.
It was unclear what taxes Trump was referring to, and why the company might have to pay them, since it intends to maintain production in the United States for U.S. customers.
This fuckin' guy...
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:33 (seven years ago)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:31 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is exactly what I'm worried about -- arguably, we're still in the prolonged fundamental alteration of the backlash to Reconstruction
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:33 (seven years ago)
Ooh we need a Second Reconstruction let’s call it that.
― devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:34 (seven years ago)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/06/26/chasing-white-house-officials-out-of-restaurants-is-the-right-thing-to-do/
Tom Scocca made it into the WaPo
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:39 (seven years ago)
lol @ that profile pic
he's otm of course
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:44 (seven years ago)
Absolutely. Hence all the battles over Confederate monuments. We're still fighting about which country we're going to be. Demographics and the rule of law are more on the side of the angels than not, current conditions notwithstanding. The culture matters, too. (Up to and including "This Is America" as a #1 jam.) I live in a blue city in a red state, and women's marches and gay rights parades draw enormous crowds, much bigger than any Trump rally.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:49 (seven years ago)
one thing i stupidly didn't do in 2016 but really do plan to do this year is phone bank. I honestly don't know how statistically effective it's been proven to be but it's something at least. and it's not a matter of trying to convince someone who disagrees with you but rather either encouraging people to register or encouraging already-registered Dems to actually vote. that's the only chance we have. many of our more idiotic representatives and pundits may think there's a persuadable bloc of Trump voters but it's probably a pipe dream and even if they do exist they're negligible next to the bloc that already agrees with us but just didn't get off their asses two years ago.
― evol j, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:20 (seven years ago)
I have been thinking a little of moving residences from NYC to GA for voting reasons.This isn’t the worst idea. I remember snickering at libertarians 15 years ago and their “Free State” scheme in New Hampshire. People—particularly younger ones—are likely more mobile now than ever. If only freelancing leftists could be convinced to stop moving to NYC and maybe try a purple state. Or perhaps even something even more ambitious like forming a critical mass in a sparsely populated state like Wyoming. Which is admittedly a tall fucking order. I have no dependents and work for myself but the thought of moving to WY is a little grim.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:34 (seven years ago)
it's pretty there
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:36 (seven years ago)
Oh I have no doubt. Guess i’m just addicted to city life even if it’s not NY/LA/CHI
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:38 (seven years ago)
for what it's worth I phone banked during the 2016 election and a few of the interim ones and it was a lot of voicemail and "sorry, we have no more numbers for you to call today"
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:38 (seven years ago)
see I’m the problem!
xp -- I've heard that argument, I have also heard the argument that no, actually what we should do is encourage leftists to move *to* the blue states, since it's a census year and the electoral votes would become more consolidated; plus, people's other reasons for moving probably swamp anything like that
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:39 (seven years ago)
I phonebanked for District 10 (linked upthread) a few months ago and actually reached people and told them about a townhall where they could go and yell at Denham it was cool. Now that Dems have an actual candidate there, next time it'll be about the really important thing - turning out the vote.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:40 (seven years ago)
WY has big mountains, lots of wind, rather barren terrain, and nasty winters. Not exactly paradise, except for about 6 weeks a year.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:41 (seven years ago)
Has anyone ever met someone who moved to a different state for the purposes of increasing its blue vote by 0.00001%?
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:47 (seven years ago)
moving to just up the numbers obv does very little, but moving to "get involved" can have impact i bet
― gbx, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:50 (seven years ago)
tho be ready to stand accused of carpetbagging
― gbx, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:51 (seven years ago)
to be fair in a lot of local elections one vote does indeed count
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:52 (seven years ago)
“I don’t like short people or tall people, I like middle people – people from Wyoming,”
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:55 (seven years ago)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:58 (seven years ago)
I see what you did there
I have for sure thought about finishing my teaching degree, embedding somewhere conservative, and infecting as many little minds as possible with my libruhl agenda. I just don't know if I'm built to withstand existence in the midst of hardcore Trump country.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:00 (seven years ago)
People—particularly younger ones—are likely more mobile now than ever.
currently the opposite is true
https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardgano/2018/02/05/unlike-previous-generations-millennials-arent-moving-but-neither-are-other-age-groups/#3800421b7093
― sleeve, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:09 (seven years ago)
nobody has money to move/homes are too expensive
― sleeve, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)
I might consider buying a house when my household has less than $180K in student loan debt
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:11 (seven years ago)
yeah, I could move to a red state but I would almost certainly be unemployed with my skill set
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:12 (seven years ago)
just like everybody else soon will be in red states
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:14 (seven years ago)
Every city is effectively a blue city in a red state. Moving into the country won’t change much; we need to keep depopulating the countryside.
― devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:15 (seven years ago)
go on...
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:15 (seven years ago)
xp yeah sure but the opposite is happening in (e.g.) Seattle, everyone's getting priced out
― sleeve, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)
I know! Housing in Seattle is my top political issue.
― devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:18 (seven years ago)
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/394171-poll-comstock-trailing-by-10-points-in-va-house-race
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:20 (seven years ago)
forming a critical mass in a sparsely populated state
https://www.opb.org/images/fetch/c_fill,h_300,q_90,w_400/http:/s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/opb-media/artsandlife/2012/11/rajneeshpuram_main.jpg
― ~ cows come home (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:23 (seven years ago)
― gbx, Tuesday, June 26, 2018 6:50 PM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ya this is what i was about to say, guys like Jesse Myerson or Johnathan Smucker who've left NYC to go start grassroots orgs in Indiana and Pennsylvania are doing dope shit imo
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:31 (seven years ago)
What’s JM Smucker been up to, anyway? I liked his book
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:44 (seven years ago)
he tweetin, ever with a well considered analysis https://twitter.com/jonathansmucker
and in the way of a good leader he's "organizing with" (i.e. is a founder of) new local PA org Lancaster Stand Up that's doing GOTV work and confronting shitty PA pols
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 20:23 (seven years ago)
impossibly, i have still not read his goddam book despite literally everyone telling me to read it
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 20:25 (seven years ago)
I mean I live in Chile most of the year, I constantly get tipsy and make hard left turns and the women love it. It's still a pretty fucking conservative country where job listings say they are only looking for older men and abortion is illegal. I probably won't make a dent and I am likely viewed as one of those self involved americans but at least the idea is out there as not being science fiction.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 20:40 (seven years ago)
Schumer and Pelosi continue to successfully hold their caucuses together: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/democrats-reject-gops-narrow-fix-to-trumps-family-separation-policy/2018/06/26/1c716b2e-7943-11e8-80be-6d32e182a3bc_story.html?utm_term=.2b2c8d4af574
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 20:50 (seven years ago)
We confronted @SenateMajLdr and @SecElaineChao with @ProPublica audio of children separated from their families at the border while leaving a @Georgetown event. We must #AbolishICE & #AbolishCBP! #FreedomforImmigrants pic.twitter.com/ljv70F3F0L— Roberto (@Roberto62543651) June 26, 2018
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 21:01 (seven years ago)
good for them
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 21:03 (seven years ago)
in other newshttps://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/26/judge-rejects-challenge-676814
if u think about it, every undocumented immigrant is a criminal, therefore trump is correct that they "bring crime" into the country! slam dunk! maga!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 21:08 (seven years ago)
really makes you thing
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 21:26 (seven years ago)
oh by the by me n some pals are gonna go say hi at the frozen water headquarters tomorrow: https://www.facebook.com/events/252504972178951/
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 21:28 (seven years ago)
good luck!
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 21:33 (seven years ago)
I've definitely encountered this argument before
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 21:36 (seven years ago)
when immigration is outlawed only outlaws will be immigrants
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 21:40 (seven years ago)
How about the argument that immigrant parents are "irresponsible" for "breaking the law with their children"
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 21:54 (seven years ago)
Trump's parents were irresponsible for not immediately dashing his brains out on the nearest rock following his birth
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 21:56 (seven years ago)
Their own 'brains' tbf.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 21:59 (seven years ago)
Even removed from whatever pernicious influence they had over his upbringing, I have to wonder how many disassembled pets the Trump family had to go through before they were finally able to admit that Little Donnie just came out wrong.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:06 (seven years ago)
I know this is a shitty thing to say, but I can't help but shake my head at the thought of left-liberal advocates contemplating moving to hard-red areas to enlighten the locals with progressive thinking. The people in Trumpland know what they want, they voted for what they want, they got what they want, and they're happy with what they got, for the most part. Expressing challenging opinions to people who are on some level aware that their beliefs are inequitable / NAGL / "un-P.C." simply causes them to double down. As a naïve outsider it looks to me that the only way this schism will resolve is to wait for the boomer bigots to die. Thanks to the gutting of the health system even 5-10 years will make pretty significant inroads into their numbers.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:36 (seven years ago)
there's always more bigots in the heartland, my guy
― devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:37 (seven years ago)
I live in a very liberal part of a very liberal metropolitan area. A few weeks ago my wife's cousin visited from Omaha. One day here she was wearing a "resist" shirt, or something along those lines, and said it was so weird to be wearing it in a place where she didn't see a single MAGA hat, let alone several, on any given day.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:38 (seven years ago)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:39 (seven years ago)
Yeah, you think the bigots will die out but hello, there is a bumper crop every year.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:39 (seven years ago)
I also just want to move to GA. Bigots and zombies be damned.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:41 (seven years ago)
xpost to myself Strangely, to me at least, my wife's cousin didn't seem particularly distressed, which must be a family trait, because all of the Omaha family have been died in the wool liberals who just step up and do their thing. One of my wife's grandmothers broke from her Methodist church after some 50 years when they didn't support gay marriage. The other grandmother would, or so I was told, stand on coffee tables and decry Nixon and the Vietnam war. Those people are heroes to me, and they never leave Nebraska. With the exception of my wife's gay (and married) cousin who left Nebraska for Kansas.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:42 (seven years ago)
and in Trump districts you'll often meet people, often under 40, with, for example, gay best buds or gay relatives whose husbands/wives/lovers they accept. Then they go on Facebook.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:44 (seven years ago)
why I would even bet that some of their best friends are black
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:45 (seven years ago)
One of the good ones!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:46 (seven years ago)
Americans who live in single-family homes are always going to be a problem, is basically my heuristic. They are the worst demographic at every scale.
― devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:48 (seven years ago)
I'm pretty sure it's a causal relationship.
I'm in a single family home. My neighbors, on my block, are black, Irish, gay, special needs, Italian, Indian, old white folks, Latino, kids, no kids, divorced, mixed families. Assholes are assholes, especially if they're surrounded b other likeminded assholes, with no contrast to reveal to them that they are assholes.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:53 (seven years ago)
I mean in aggregate, yknow?
― devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:53 (seven years ago)
Oh, and my immediate neighbor, who is of Mexican descent and is married to a German, whose kids still, in this progressive paradise, get shit at school for being darker skinned.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 22:54 (seven years ago)
Since moving into a single-fam home for 1st time as an adult I have caught myself having a few "the outside world is scary, my castle and kin needs to be protected at all costs" type thoughts so I get where you're coming from silby and yeah I think on aggregate there's something to it...but Josh also right that assholes are assholes and I gotta think the main factors are education/intelligence, parents as role models/morality teachers, direct experiences with wide variety of people, a strong and frequently-exercised empathy muscle, etc.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:03 (seven years ago)
^^^People, a lot of white people, are fucking terrified of everything/willing to stab their mother to maintain what they think is godsent. Callback to that The Root article "white people are cowards."
― Yerac, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:08 (seven years ago)
But also about Europe. Most of it better than the US. FFS one can actually afford nice vegetables, bread and cheese here. Farmer's markets in the US are the most bougie. expensive shit.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:10 (seven years ago)
xp to myself Those qualities are the commonalities I've noticed among non-assholes. However, if you go back a couplefew generations, pretty sure most had ancestors who lived in urban areas. Like my friends (and obv my family) had grandparents who were raised in urban areas in apartments, moved out to the burbs after WW2 to start their family, and instilled liberal mindsets in their kids, and on down the generations.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:10 (seven years ago)
I gotta think the main factors are education/intelligence, parents as role models/morality teachers, direct experiences with wide variety of people, a strong and frequently-exercised empathy muscle, etc.
This is so right. Been thinking a lot about how parents, especially fathers, can shape this.
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:14 (seven years ago)
People, a lot of white people, are fucking terrified of everything/willing
Very small sample size and could be some data cherry-picking but I've noticed that people who have the typical "fear and loathing" conservative outlook are likewise scared to try new foods, go to unfamiliar places, deviate from routines, deviate from the crowd, and in an almost constant state of worry far out of proportion to any real threat.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:16 (seven years ago)
Guess I'm echoing what those studies of conservative vs liberal brains have found huh. ie conservatives have larger amygdalas etc.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:19 (seven years ago)
I guess my Boomer logic is that the fewer people voting who have direct memory of living a privileged, consequence-free lifestyle ignorant of its cost will be fewer, and thus the sense of entitlement (excuse me, "American freedom") will diminish a little.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:28 (seven years ago)
yeah it's hard to argue with "fewer people ... will be fewer"
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:29 (seven years ago)
At this point I think the only thing that will dent Trump is if the economy seriously tanks - which of course it may well, what with trade wars and tax cuts that will mean there's no money in the coffers to deal with a downturn. But it's pretty depressing to think the only way out of this might be an economic crisis
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:47 (seven years ago)
Usually I'd say, "Fuck this guy," but Steve Schmidt is being unusually eloquent on Chris Hayes' show, and apparently he's going to help Democrats in the fall.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:16 (seven years ago)
after watching woody harrelson as schmidt Game Change it's hard not to think of him as this charming, affable guy
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:21 (seven years ago)
^in^ Game Change
i'll say fuck that guy for you
deathbed conversions annoyed me even in Catholic school
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:22 (seven years ago)
If he contributes to the Democratic collections box, then he can expire in December 2018.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:32 (seven years ago)
so weird to be wearing it in a place where she didn't see a single MAGA hat, let alone several, on any given day.
you know now that i think about it i'm not sure i've even seen a maga hat in person since even the election. nice!!
― j., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:42 (seven years ago)
STFU Pelosi
https://www.salon.com/2018/06/25/nancy-pelosi-turns-on-maxine-waters-criticizes-her-unacceptable-anti-trump-rhetoric/
― sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:47 (seven years ago)
you don't have to agree with it, just don't make public statements against it.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:48 (seven years ago)
well, remember how John McCain and John Boehner's condemnation of Joe Wilson in 2009 for shouting YOU LIE decisively swung the 2010 midterms in the Democrats' direction.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:55 (seven years ago)
"I will love everyone, I will love the police as they kick the shit out of me on the street"
― sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:58 (seven years ago)
on in
don't even get me started on this pro-civility garbage
― sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:59 (seven years ago)
Lol right? Get mad about stuff that matters plz
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:59 (seven years ago)
I can't even parse that anymore
― sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:00 (seven years ago)
Er xp
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:00 (seven years ago)
ah ok thx
― sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:01 (seven years ago)
xxxxp but
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, June 26, 2018 7:19 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
close but not quite; this is a fairly common result found on the Big Five/OCEAN model of personality, that openness to experience is positively associated with liberalism. (conscientiousness -- self-discipline, duty, order, etc. -- is positively associated with conservatism)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:19 (seven years ago)
(incidentally, this is somewhat related to what Cambridge Analytica was doing with personality profiling
http://theconversation.com/how-cambridge-analyticas-facebook-targeting-model-really-worked-according-to-the-person-who-built-it-94078 )
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:25 (seven years ago)
Uh guys I think Ocasio-Cortez is gonna win the primary
She was outspent by the incumbent 10:1 so this is kind of a big deal
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:32 (seven years ago)
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/26/new-york-primary-election-results-2018-updates-677637
Yup
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:36 (seven years ago)
really????!!!! oh I hope so
― Dan S, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:37 (seven years ago)
Good for her
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:37 (seven years ago)
we're partying in the Dem strategy thread
― Simon H., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:38 (seven years ago)
Good morning!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:49 (seven years ago)
fuckin lol
Wow! Big Trump Hater Congressman Joe Crowley, who many expected was going to take Nancy Pelosi’s place, just LOST his primary election. In other words, he’s out! That is a big one that nobody saw happening. Perhaps he should have been nicer, and more respectful, to his President!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 27, 2018
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:21 (seven years ago)
Uh, Ocasio-Cortez ain't exactly Roy Moore, dude. Don't know what your celebrating here.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:25 (seven years ago)
Big Trump Hater loses to someone who doesn't like Trump at all. Win-win!
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:26 (seven years ago)
― Dan S, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:28 (seven years ago)
i bet he's celebrating it because he's v v stupid
― gbx, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:34 (seven years ago)
https://www.facebook.com/kbrezler/videos/10156361035083326/
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:36 (seven years ago)
I heard a pretty good take on Twitter (can't remember who) but it said that every Dem in office when Trump got elected is going to have to prove themselves. That seems pretty otm right now - on Monday we had both minority leaders repudiate Maxine Waters for suggesting that people be rude to Trump officials and today we saw huge blows to both civil and voting rights entirely attributable to Mitch McConnell stealing a Supreme Court Seat. like RIGHT THERE is a pretty big reminder of what you get when you try to be civil with these fuckers. the utter uselessness of establishment Dems is getting pretty exposed right now, especially given that the Trump admin literally kidnapped thousands of kids and is currently holding them for ransom and all this stupid country can talk about is a fascist mouthpiece getting booted out of a restaurant. I hope Crowley losing to a 28-year old sends a big message to all these people.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 03:18 (seven years ago)
and, by the way, I'm not suggesting Ocasio-Cortez didn't 100% deserve this, but Dems themselves said this wasn't gonna be competitive as recently as one month ago
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 03:19 (seven years ago)
Trump 100% thinks a Republican defeated Joe Crowley.— Chris Jackson (@ChrisCJackson) June 27, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 03:34 (seven years ago)
Meanwhile he's back to pimping his own golf courses
The legendary Gary Player at Turnberry in Scotland! https://t.co/3oGoqWhhtA— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 27, 2018
― Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 03:39 (seven years ago)
Such a great player he's playing out of a bunker, nice example pic.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 03:48 (seven years ago)
Not the combo of "bunker" and "Trump" I was anticipating.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:14 (seven years ago)
lmao how are these guys in total control and yet still know absolutely nothing
STUNNING!That so-called blue wave? More like a red tsunami... https://t.co/cIeI1II52U— Kayleigh McEnany (@kayleighmcenany) June 27, 2018
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:23 (seven years ago)
Why are you sharing that
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:24 (seven years ago)
Like a white woman named Kayleigh RT’d Trump saying something profoundly dumb and put her own dumb on top of it - OK never mind I see how this is funny now
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:26 (seven years ago)
cuz chuds (and the President himself) thinking that a Democrat got primaried by a Republican is like, really funny to me
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:26 (seven years ago)
and she's not just any white woman, she was one of the people that CNN gave 4 hours of daily airtime in order to serve as a Trump mouthpiece
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:28 (seven years ago)
and continues to give airtime to...
― Dan S, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:36 (seven years ago)
ACLU on FB:
BREAKING: We just won a big victory in our fight to reunite families!The judge ruled that the Trump administration must reunite separated families within 30 days, and children under 5 must be reunited with their parents within 14 days.
The judge ruled that the Trump administration must reunite separated families within 30 days, and children under 5 must be reunited with their parents within 14 days.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:54 (seven years ago)
Up to TWO WEEKS apart for under-5s. I can't even process how bad that must be.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 05:27 (seven years ago)
legal weed in oklahoma ✔️
― sciatica, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 05:34 (seven years ago)
Stupid people getting massive amounts of time on CNN is also 🤷♂️ though
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 06:11 (seven years ago)
All these mofos that still stay at his hotels and play at his golf courses can eat shit too.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 07:26 (seven years ago)
i guess Fox & Friends didn't cover Ocasio-Cortez heavily
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 07:28 (seven years ago)
Tomorrow’s broadcast will be a helluva treat then
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 08:53 (seven years ago)
Or what?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 11:25 (seven years ago)
Ocasio -Cortez will likely be my district's rep. Maybe I won't be moving to GA. Tears and hearts.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 12:25 (seven years ago)
At least the good news from New York will soothe us before SCOTUS delivers its anti-public union opinion in a hour or so.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 12:28 (seven years ago)
Guys
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 12:39 (seven years ago)
yes Lisa
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 12:40 (seven years ago)
Kayleigh McEnany knows what a primary is. She thinks left wins are good for the GOP. I think she’s wrong but let’s not fall into this trap of think they’re all dumb yokels again.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 12:41 (seven years ago)
Kayleigh McEnany knows what a primary is. She thinks left wins are good for the GOP.
Many political journalists agree!
WIDGETVILLE, OH -- As his second cup of coffee cooled, Joe Sixpack grimaced. The Democratic Party that had elected "that socialist lady in Queens," he said, had left him behind. A lifelong Democrat, he now planned to join the Federalist Society.— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) June 27, 2018
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 12:47 (seven years ago)
A lifelong Democrat, he suddenly hated immigrants, women and minorities, plus abortion, civil rights and unions.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 12:59 (seven years ago)
"What has become of my party?" he asked, as he dusted his collection of Confederate memorabilia.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:00 (seven years ago)
Waiting for Trump to gloatingly RT that.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:01 (seven years ago)
i'm completely lost as to which of y'all are capable of discerning jokes anymore.
― evol j, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:01 (seven years ago)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/Michael_Jackson_-_Man_in_the_Mirror.png
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:03 (seven years ago)
The likeminded comments on the Weigel thread are pretty funny. Some faves:
"This and the cancellation of Roseanne were really my last straws," Lesley Drummond, a blue collar Harrisburg Democrat said at a local Speedway."
"Time was, I voted against my party because of Nancy Pelosi. Then I voted against my party because of Hillary Clinton. This year I was ready to do it over Maxine Waters. But now I'm definitely against my party because this Bronx lady wants to send my kids to college. For free."
“I’ve been on the fence about Trump and concerned about his border policy’s heartbreaking family separation” said Brittney Soccermom of Wichita, “but when I heard some socialist lady in NYC wants healthcare for all, that’s where I draw the line.”
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:04 (seven years ago)
Along similar lines and in response to my question from yesterday, this was lifted directly from the front page of FT today:
At Harley's power-train plant in Wisconsin, support for the president seems unshaken by the prospect of job losses as the result of his tit-for-tat tariff war with rival economies. 'He wouldn't do it unless it needed to be done, he's a very smart businessman,' said one worker on a smoke break.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:09 (seven years ago)
Classic. I think we're getting closer to figuring out what Trump voters think!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:14 (seven years ago)
"His heart's in the right place, but he's new to this," says Stephanie McAllister, bouncing a sleepy infant cradled in her arms as she waits for a cup of coffee at the counter. "We should just give him some time." Still, not everything Trump says or does sits well with this suburban mom. "I really do wish he would tweet less," she says, furrowing her brow and absentmindedly patting her baby's back, coaxing out a disproportionate belch.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:18 (seven years ago)
'think'
I mean, that's basically the mentality of a cult member. Dude's pointless actions directly threaten the viability of your job and you still give him a big thumbs up and a smile.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:19 (seven years ago)
Give him time!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:20 (seven years ago)
In his final words as President Trump sat on his chest and drew the knife to his throat, Sixpack confidently said, 'I'm sure this is all for a good reason, he's very sma...'
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:21 (seven years ago)
Trump should see how many of his hardcore supporters he can get to hand over their firstborn. I'm guessing a percentage somewhere in the 90s.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:24 (seven years ago)
Kayleigh McEnany knows what a primary is. She thinks left wins are good for the GOP. I think she’s wrong but let’s not fall into this trap of think they’re all dumb yokels again
idk kind of sounds like that was a post-hoc rationalization especially given that Trump explicitly said that Crowley lost because he wasn't nice enough to Trump. yokels until proven non yokels
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:28 (seven years ago)
'He wouldn't do it unless it needed to be done, he's a very smart businessman who has been bankrupted several times,' said one worker on a smoke break.
― Arthur Funzonerelli (stevie), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:31 (seven years ago)
I realize from this vantage point that that's probably a nonstarter with his supporters, many of whom have probably suffered bankruptcies that they weren't able to bounce back from. The fact that he did so several times over makes him very, very smart.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:35 (seven years ago)
http://www.businessinsider.com/photos-show-north-korea-still-upgrading-nuclear-plant-after-trump-pledge-2018-6?utm_source=reddit.com&r=UK&IR=T
very surprised by this development because from what i've read our President already achieved world peace .
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:41 (seven years ago)
HOUSE REPUBLICANS SHOULD PASS THE STRONG BUT FAIR IMMIGRATION BILL, KNOWN AS GOODLATTE II, IN THEIR AFTERNOON VOTE TODAY, EVEN THOUGH THE DEMS WON’T LET IT PASS IN THE SENATE. PASSAGE WILL SHOW THAT WE WANT STRONG BORDERS & SECURITY WHILE THE DEMS WANT OPEN BORDERS = CRIME. WIN!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 27, 2018
CAPS LOCK HER UP
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:43 (seven years ago)
CRIME=WIN!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:44 (seven years ago)
Are a lot of regular Americans so dickmatized by Trump because he's, like, the one famous person that they've gotten near? It's like fucking Teenbeat with these interviewees.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:53 (seven years ago)
Not the Weigel satire but the piece on HD.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:54 (seven years ago)
I see a lot of news sites talking about some Latina woman beating Crowley last night, this may be weird but she doesn't appear to have a name ?????
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:57 (seven years ago)
Her name is Ofcrowley.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 14:04 (seven years ago)
― maura, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 14:09 (seven years ago)
(It was first used about Oprah.)
v v v proud of the organizers that made the ocasio-cortez win happen. crowley outraised her 10 to fucking 1 and they still beat his ass by double digits. that's a fucking ground game.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 14:17 (seven years ago)
xpost, I should find that book. I think there is a lot of freedom in not being in awe of or being impressed by any celebrity. I can find their creations interesting or joyful, but that's it. I think the only time I have considered snapping taking a pic with someone was because Weird Al was in my building and my bf from hs loved him so much I thought she would get a kick out of it. But I had a large ice coffee in my hand and didn't want to put it down to deal with my phone.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 14:42 (seven years ago)
in other newshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/27/federal-judge-enjoins-separation-of-migrant-children-orders-family-reunification/?utm_term=.879711bb2e04
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:46 (seven years ago)
judge is a Dubya appointee from a military family in San Diego
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:48 (seven years ago)
the details in that order are damning. of course these hapless morons didn't keep records of the families they were splitting up.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:50 (seven years ago)
i've got to admit i'm finding the SC rulings on the muslim band and gerrymandering to be pretty bleak and depressing and hopeless
― Arthur Funzonerelli (stevie), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:57 (seven years ago)
rulings can be overturned
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:58 (seven years ago)
recent example: Lily Ledbetter Act
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:58 (seven years ago)
another recent example: Korematsu, in the process of establishing Korematsu Pt. 2
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:14 (seven years ago)
yeah that was p odd
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:14 (seven years ago)
meanwhile, today's equivalent of withdrawing from the Human Rights Council in bleak "why the fuck not, it's nothing that isn't already the case"-ness
SCOOP: Former @FoxNews co-president Bill Shine is in final talks with @realDonaldTrump about becoming @WhiteHouse Communications Director. Announcement could be soon.— John Roberts (@johnrobertsFox) June 27, 2018
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:39 (seven years ago)
not for the first time, i thank the elder gods that roger ailes is dead
― Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:44 (seven years ago)
Some days, the only thing that keeps me going is remembering that every single one of these fuckers will one day follow suit. Cold comfort.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:46 (seven years ago)
for fans of my dinosaur-meteor thread and its attendant political-carrtoonist-friendly metaphors
There is an asteroid named after Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. https://t.co/MC5ON45QMl pic.twitter.com/QDt7M4SN59— John M. Cunningham (@jmcunning) June 27, 2018
― mark s, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:49 (seven years ago)
House immigration bill failed 121-301.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:56 (seven years ago)
nice majority they've got, shame if something were to happen to it. Did they buck the Hastert rule on this?
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:58 (seven years ago)
hahahaha
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:58 (seven years ago)
lol silby
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:00 (seven years ago)
I guess with no D ayes that's the barest majority of the majority they got to vote for whatever Goodlatte's interns scraped off the floor
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:01 (seven years ago)
ALERT: justice kennedy is retiiring— Robert Barnes (@scotusreporter) June 27, 2018
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:04 (seven years ago)
oh ffs
― This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:05 (seven years ago)
― sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:05 (seven years ago)
ugh
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:05 (seven years ago)
from a lawyer friend:
Democrats must insist that Justice Kennedy's seat will remain open as long as an illegitimate president would nominate his replacement. Hold the line.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:06 (seven years ago)
yeah they wont be doing any of that shit
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:06 (seven years ago)
they can't even hold the line at disneyland
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:07 (seven years ago)
I know
― sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:07 (seven years ago)
at this point even the trump equivalent of harriet miers would maybe get one GOP senator to make some vague statements of "concern" and then vote yes anyway. the dems have no leverage, following mcconnell's gorsuch nuclear option. but since they can't actually stop a kennedy replacement, they might as well make sure everybody in the country hears what bullshit this is, and loudly.
― This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:08 (seven years ago)
Does Trump even have to bother with pardoning Cohen once he's a SC justice? Not sure how that works.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:19 (seven years ago)
Fuck, I can't even joke anymore, this is just sickening.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:20 (seven years ago)
he dems have no leverage, following mcconnell's gorsuch nuclear optio
actually they have no leverage after Harry Reid eliminated the nuclear option. Remember? I'm not saying it wasn't the right thing to do.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:20 (seven years ago)
there's nothing the Dems can do to stop this. the best they can do is procedural delays.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:21 (seven years ago)
and use it as a rallying point to try and take back the Senate, I guess
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:22 (seven years ago)
Every nominee should be targeted for assassination by antifa supersoldiers, if any are actually out there
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:22 (seven years ago)
yeah I asked in the other thread whether there was a realistic chance that kennedy's replacement could be appointed after midterms
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:22 (seven years ago)
god what an awful week this has been
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:23 (seven years ago)
thanks Justice Kennedy, that's the second or third time you've fucked america this week
― akm, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:25 (seven years ago)
Reid did not eliminate the nuclear option for Supreme Court justices - they were specifically excepted from the 2013 rule change. McConnell axed that when Dems filibustered on Gorsuch.
― This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:27 (seven years ago)
Right! Sorry.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:32 (seven years ago)
wow did that immigration bill go down in flames
surprised the all-caps tweet didn't work
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:32 (seven years ago)
fuck u kennedy u fucking wiener
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:37 (seven years ago)
It’s really beyond time for everyone who has those conservative/racist relatives I’ve heard so much about to cut them out of their lives. And friends, bosses, children, coworkers. If you live in a Republican area, sacrifice your local ties and leave. Leave these fucking scum behind, they don’t get to enjoy your civil neighborliness anymore. Set fire to their lawns when you drive off.
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:40 (seven years ago)
John Roberts now the swing vote! Great news!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:40 (seven years ago)
some good newshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/06/27/democrats-are-looking-stronger-in-senate-races/?utm_term=.d57c8971447f
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:42 (seven years ago)
silby otm
Seriously if you still talk to any Republicans I’m going to call you a Nazi sympathizer that’s just how it is at this point.
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:43 (seven years ago)
This is how the US becomes Gilead.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:45 (seven years ago)
otm!
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:47 (seven years ago)
Anyone who has supervisory authority over anyone should start monitoring social media of their employees. Fire your Trumpists. Eat the lawsuits. It’s your responsibility.
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:47 (seven years ago)
Interesting, if true: Jeff Flake says he will block Trump's judicial nominees until there's a vote on tariffs
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:48 (seven years ago)
Hey, maybe let's all agree to make every moment a GOP elected official spends outside of their home an absolute miserable slog which forces them to rethink the wisdom of ever going into politics in the first place, whaddaya say, gang.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:48 (seven years ago)
Flake said that before Kennedy retired though
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
sounds good to me OL
Who do I talk to about getting involved in terrorism
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:52 (seven years ago)
No one. That's kinda how it works.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:55 (seven years ago)
I don’t want to do unorganized terrorism. The 9/11 conspirators had a whole operation.
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:56 (seven years ago)
They knocked it out of the park
july: democrats encourage republicans to pick a justice "in the kennedy mold"aug: trump nominates giuliani, democrats act betrayedsep: democrats urge restraint, the gop invokes the nuclear optionoct: heitkamp votes to confirmnov: heitkamp loses re-election anyway— chris hooks (@cd_hooks) June 27, 2018
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:58 (seven years ago)
Just hang loose until the fallout has time to start really affecting people's lives. This is the kind of shit that radicalizes fairweather political dilettantes. Take note, GOP!
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:58 (seven years ago)
we all recall the anti vietnam war group The Weatherman
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:01 (seven years ago)
I seriously am disgusted with people who are still listening to /associating with their trump supporting family members/friends too. I cut that shit off right at the holiday after the election. One woman who got mad at me about being a "purist" said she needed her parents for childcare and they really loved the children. I was like life's a bitch, I am sure they are traumatizing your children while you are at work. That is exactly how that shit rolls.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:06 (seven years ago)
And the Baader-Meinhof person
― ~ cows come home (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:14 (seven years ago)
i hate everything and i'm so angry
― This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:15 (seven years ago)
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)
i cant even work right now
It feels like an awful lot has been decided by smaller states with smaller impact on culture and the economy, by their countryside and by their suburbs.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)
Set fire to the suburbs
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:17 (seven years ago)
^^I had the same response when they got Doug Ford elected here and imo it's a solid international strategy
― Simon H., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:18 (seven years ago)
I think city people should really start using their economic impact to change things.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:19 (seven years ago)
it feels like an awful lot has been decided by one fucking idiotic man by the name of anthony kennedy
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:19 (seven years ago)
so... with McCain out, McConnell's majority is just 50-49. Seems like next course of action is to pressure every potential swing vote (Dem and Rep) to vote "no", since Blobfish can't afford to lose, say, both Collins (who does legit care about Roe v. Wade iirc) and Flake without picking up Heitkamp or Manchin.
I would think the Constitutionality of many of Manbaby's actions loom large over the Senate but idk
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:22 (seven years ago)
Collins legit cares about a lot of things, but will always vote against them anyway
― frogbs, Wednesday, June 27, 2018 11:57 PM (yesterday)
why do you go to so many of these sites
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:25 (seven years ago)
we must insist
w/ extreme prejudice
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:28 (seven years ago)
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, June 27, 2018 12:19 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm all for annexing and bulldozing as many unincorporated single-family areas as possible but there's tons of single-family zoning inside city limits that needs to be bulldozed first
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:28 (seven years ago)
Oh, when I advocated upthread about relentlessly hounding all elected GOP officials every waking minute of every day? I should've specified that this continues even after they're out of office, until the day they finally kick the bucket. These motherfuckers don't get to just ride off into the sunset and enjoy a peaceful retirement. Hell no. Demonize and marginalize every single goddamn one of them.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:30 (seven years ago)
so single-family homes are your scapegoat for US problems huh. Cool.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:30 (seven years ago)
city-states or bust
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:30 (seven years ago)
I was thinking more about strikes and blocking key infrastructure and financial infrastructure and show the american public that the GOP's entire notion that they represent order is entirely false.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:32 (seven years ago)
I mean also close down rural schools, ban private high school, ban homeschooling, re-educate the youth in the cities. Mandate robot farming.
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:33 (seven years ago)
Dem. Senator BLUMENTHAL: “The Senate should do nothing to artificially delay” consideration of next justice, but POTUS should take his time & make a centrist choice.— Garrett Haake (@GarrettHaake) June 27, 2018
― Eliza D., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:34 (seven years ago)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:34 (seven years ago)
For the sake of clarity, I would never propose escalation because the powerful usually wins escalations but at this point I would say it's self defence, the roll back on human rights is bound to be pretty nasty.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:35 (seven years ago)
Might be time for some more ballgames
― Simon H., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:35 (seven years ago)
SEN. HARRIS on SCOTUS vacancy pic.twitter.com/tr8d8H5d0f— Lily Adams (@adamslily) June 27, 2018
― Dan S, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:39 (seven years ago)
If the SC justice selection somehow gets miraculously dragged out until the Dems have the power to block any and all nominations and they subsequently fail/refuse to do so, fuck the Democratic Party forever imo.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:39 (seven years ago)
xpost. Three cheers for Harris, at least.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:41 (seven years ago)
Kamala Harris still wants to be president and she knows where her bread is buttered right now
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:41 (seven years ago)
Collins is a dumb asshole.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:42 (seven years ago)
I have no illusions that Harris is anything but a pragmatic former prosecutor who is maybe a scoche to the left of the latter DLC consensus but if she thinks the left Dem platform is a winner and can sell it I’m happy to have her running on it
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:44 (seven years ago)
Jesus fucking christ, Blumenthal is committing political malpractice with that statement.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:44 (seven years ago)
if she thinks the left Dem platform is a winner and can sell it
former is clearly the case, I am hopeful about the latter
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)
These motherfuckers don't get to just ride off into the sunset and enjoy a peaceful retirement.
hey I have an ideahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF5NW94K51A
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:48 (seven years ago)
Do you have a newsletter, and if so how do I subscribe?
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:49 (seven years ago)
Also yeah, if the GOP does well in November I'm losing all hope.
(note: yes I'm still hopeful)
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:56 (seven years ago)
swing for the fences, sports fans
― Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:57 (seven years ago)
xpost Don't worry, if the GOP maintains their majority, they'll behave so awfully that people will TOTALLY wake up and defect in droves. That will ABSOLUTELY happen, for sure.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:58 (seven years ago)
Kennedy retiring is bad for Dems in the midterms right? seems like the sort of thing that would drive GOP turnout up
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:59 (seven years ago)
apparently turnout jumped way more dramatically in dem primaries than republican primaries yesterday so that's some hope. We need a crushing victory here, then total obstruction of Trump, then in 2020 we pack the court and or strip jurisdiction. Scorched earth.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:59 (seven years ago)
― frogbs, Wednesday, June 27, 2018 2:59 PM (twelve seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Actually I don't think so, unless he can't get his pick through before January.
Real devil's bargain at work there
― Simon H., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:02 (seven years ago)
Was actually able to reach a staffer in Blumenthal’s office for whatever that’s worth.
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:04 (seven years ago)
feel like Dems not only need to hammer on the Garland thing but also the whole "a POTUS who was elected by a foreign power and is under investigation for actively colluding with them should not get to nominate justices"
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:04 (seven years ago)
There is a laundry list of things they can hammer, they need to do their homework and check what resonates with who and target well.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:06 (seven years ago)
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, June 27, 2018 7:17 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1388377440l/52493.jpg
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:19 (seven years ago)
― frogbs, Wednesday, June 27, 2018 3:04 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, June 27, 2018 3:06 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
agree, and the goal should be to lay the groundwork for either court-packing or jurisdiction stripping when we (hopefully) retake the senate and the white house. No more indignance for its own sake.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:22 (seven years ago)
wow this is amazingly bad
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:23 (seven years ago)
had to look up jurisdiction stripping (been a few years since I last re-read the Federalist Papers), seems like a more easily wielded tool than court-packing
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:24 (seven years ago)
not comfortable with the terrorism hyperbole itt - this is a public forum guys
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:37 (seven years ago)
Then leave.
― ian, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:39 (seven years ago)
Nah don't leave, it's a legitimate concern.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:51 (seven years ago)
eh, calm down ppl are just (understandably) venting
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:57 (seven years ago)
Murphy, Duckworth, Durbin, Schumer all already saying no nominee should get a vote, per Mitch's own tortured logic. I'm sure Mitch doesn't care but they're staking out their territory.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 21:00 (seven years ago)
McConnell told reporters that the nominee will be confirmed before this fall; Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) has said that historically it takes about two months on average from the time a president nominates a new justice to the time a Judiciary Committee hearing is held. What that means practically is the Senate is likely to have installed a firm conservative majority on the high court by the time voters go to the polls in November.
“The goal will be to get a conservative confirmed before the election,” said Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.), the No. 4 GOP leader. “I’m delighted to see President Trump have another opportunity to appoint another Supreme Court justice. And I’m sure he’s going to appoint somebody just like Antonin Scalia and Neil Gorsuch.”
Whether Republicans can jam through another Scalia or Gorsuch remains to be seen. GOP Sens. Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska are moderate on social issues and will have heavy sway in what’s sure to be a narrow vote. Murkowski declined requests for comment in a brief interview.
Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) faces a difficult reelection in a swing state. And Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who is retiring, said that he and other senators won’t “rubber stamp” a judge just because it’s a Republican nomination.
But Flake, like most in the GOP, expects the president to nominate someone far more conservative than Kennedy, a long-standing swing vote.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 21:02 (seven years ago)
can't the nominee just lie their faces off to appease collins and murkowski anyway
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 21:18 (seven years ago)
well yeah, that's the deal
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 21:20 (seven years ago)
Today I'm thinking a lot of this quote from Andreas Malm in The Progress of This Storm, his book on climate & capital:
“Some on the left maintain that progressives should not stoke panic — they ought to be less ‘catastrophist’ and ‘apocalyptic’ — but if we accept the principles of climate realism and stay up to date with the science, the boot is entirely on the other foot. … Dare to feel the panic. Then choose between the two main options: commit to the most militant and unwavering opposition to this system, or sit watching as it all goes down the drain.”
for 'the principles of climate realism' perhaps substitute 'the history of ascendant fascism'
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 21:38 (seven years ago)
*sits*
― cr.ht (crüt), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 21:44 (seven years ago)
Kennedy was an unprincipled simpleton and it was poisonous in its own way that everyone had to spend years and years inventing ways to discuss fundamental issues so as not to set him off, like the Twilight Zone kid— Tom Scocca (@tomscocca) June 27, 2018
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 21:50 (seven years ago)
Are we supposed to take comfort in that or some gtfo
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 21:55 (seven years ago)
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, June 28, 2018 6:37 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ian, Thursday, June 28, 2018 6:39 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This was really unnecessary, cmon guys. I know people are pissy but ILX is better than "if you dont like it leave" ffs.
I agree with Matthew. Speaking in what does come across as serious manner about terrorism and assassinations is NAGL. We've seen people have the feds on their doorstep for less on FB and such, just sayin.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 28 June 2018 00:11 (seven years ago)
calling someone stupid + pop culture reference = political insight
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 June 2018 00:41 (seven years ago)
also great idea to burn down the suburbs, not like any voters live there
ah yes the suburban vote will bring us our socialist future
― gbx, Thursday, 28 June 2018 01:04 (seven years ago)
Thanks Trayce, that was the motivation behind my comment. I know people are angry and fully agree with the sentiment, I just think it's very unwise in the current climate to make jokes like that in a visible, traceable manner. "Then leave" is a shitty response to dissent.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 28 June 2018 01:18 (seven years ago)
To add to the conversation about Dems wanting to leave the country: please wait until after the next presidential before you decide that there is nothing left for you here.
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 28 June 2018 01:27 (seven years ago)
I grew up in a suburb and now live in a suburb
― cr.ht (crüt), Thursday, 28 June 2018 01:37 (seven years ago)
I live in New York, my effect on the next presidential is exactly zero
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 28 June 2018 01:39 (seven years ago)
You add to the popular vote total -- that's plenty.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 June 2018 01:40 (seven years ago)
because hillary's popular vote victory is pulling so much weight
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 28 June 2018 01:51 (seven years ago)
Almost as much as Gore's!
― Fetchboy, Thursday, 28 June 2018 02:06 (seven years ago)
just going to weigh in for a sec and say that, venting or not, talking about assassination is totally defensible rn and concern trolling about it is the fucking worst.
― i want to get cancer (map), Thursday, 28 June 2018 03:07 (seven years ago)
and yeah, if you don't like it, you can fucking leave! trust, you are not the one "dissenting"
― i want to get cancer (map), Thursday, 28 June 2018 03:08 (seven years ago)
― cr.ht (crüt), Wednesday, June 27, 2018 9:37 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 June 2018 03:16 (seven years ago)
In recent days we have heard shameless attacks on our courageous law enforcement officers. Extremist Democrat politicians have called for the complete elimination of ICE. Leftwing Activists are trying to block ICE officers from doing their jobs and publicly posting their...— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 28, 2018
...home addresses – putting these selfless public servants in harm’s way. These radical protesters want ANARCHY – but the only response they will find from our government is LAW AND ORDER!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 28, 2018
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 June 2018 03:30 (seven years ago)
Somebody invite Trump to a Hot Dog Eating Contest next week, and the rest should take care of itself...
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 June 2018 03:30 (seven years ago)
Oh, the horror
Sean Hannity just presented this agenda as a negative pic.twitter.com/mYoByIRyr5— Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) June 28, 2018
I mean, really, at what point do viewers look at this and think some of these things aren't that bad?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 28 June 2018 03:39 (seven years ago)
Support seniors? You mean like 90% of the people who watch your show?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 28 June 2018 03:42 (seven years ago)
Seniors: "We support ourselves, thank you very much... except for <insert list of government programs> #MAGA!"
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 June 2018 03:48 (seven years ago)
I live in New York, my effect on the next presidential is exactly zero.
idg the joke, as a similarly powerless NYer
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 June 2018 04:31 (seven years ago)
map yr the worst bruh
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 June 2018 04:33 (seven years ago)
concern trolling about it is the fucking worst
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 28 June 2018 04:36 (seven years ago)
and yeah, if you don't like it, you can fucking leave!
Sweetheart, I've been here for 15 years, I'm not fucking going *anywhere*.
BTW: in my country, "if you dont like it, leave" is a racist dogwhistle said to immigrants.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 28 June 2018 04:36 (seven years ago)
"If you don't like it, leave" is going to be Trump's 2020 campaign slogan.
― Yerac, Thursday, 28 June 2018 07:56 (seven years ago)
Next election, if you are in the suburbs, if you can take the day off from work, if you can convince your job to give people the day off or half a day, spend that time shuttling people to and from the polls. I would happily donate to gas funds. And then we can burn the suburbs down. We will probably need another thread for this eventually.
― Yerac, Thursday, 28 June 2018 07:58 (seven years ago)
When you think that these things are going to be given to poor, probably non-white, people, and hard working whites like yourself are going to have to pay for them.
(I realise it was probably a rhetorical question)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 28 June 2018 08:11 (seven years ago)
^^^Yeah, people I know who have young kids, young kids who have disabilities are still against things like free education, healthcare. I've said this before but my brother who has a very young son who will need surgeries, leg braces, possibly a wheelchair his entire life is still against universal healthcare. He gets free Batman like gadgets from Children's Hospital donated (even though they could afford it) but he is fine taking that handout because "it's not from the government."
― Yerac, Thursday, 28 June 2018 08:18 (seven years ago)
Y’all can mock Mathew K like a Narc, but Trump just tweeted about how doxxing ICE was on his radar. I suppose faith in due process and legal blindness prevails.
I also suppose most of you didn’t have the get go to fuck with a (rocks not neat) agent. So it must be nice to insult someone’s concern from a place you deem safe.
Doesn’t seem like that’s how lessons are going now, right? The neutralish rage of being barely online isn’t a moral good.
― lion in winter, Thursday, 28 June 2018 08:33 (seven years ago)
And being pissed at a someone asking for caution seems like the most pathetic fantasy at work
― lion in winter, Thursday, 28 June 2018 08:35 (seven years ago)
― Yerac, Thursday, June 28, 2018 8:58 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^^ this
― Arthur Funzonerelli (stevie), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:07 (seven years ago)
I thought people not voting in 2016 was a pretty major factor still. Getting over apathy might help avoid anthe r 4 years of the current mess.
Also wondering if checking that one was on the voter register countermanded electronic attempts to oust people from being able to vote. I mean if the current regime has done next to nothing to prevent further hacking, like.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:15 (seven years ago)
13% of enrolled Dems voted in the Ocasio-Cortez primary
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:11 (seven years ago)
Samantha Bee has had a thing about this throughout the last year and a half. Apathy of Dems, who just hope that the next results will be better.& I noticed taht michelle Wolf is going on about Dems not actually getting anything done whereas GOP is doing Evil.
Also, was just trying to work out if hacking had removed people who had checked once that they were actually on the electoral list. Like once you check once you're not going to go back and check again before the time you're actually in the polling station. & if hacking is misalligning details in your electoral registry, making the attempt to vote invalid that could presumably happen between checking you're on and going to vote.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:15 (seven years ago)
you guys' new friend Schmidt
Steve Schmidt attacks Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for ‘dishonest progressivism’ — and says it’s bad as ‘Trumpism’ https://t.co/WcdXEtsgki— Raw Story (@RawStory) June 27, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:34 (seven years ago)
“And what Trump is doing is radicalizing American politics,” the conservative strategist continued. “And he is a beneficiary the more radical politics becomes. When it becomes a game of incitement between a far left who says everybody is going to have a government job, everybody is going to have daycare, everybody is going to have retirement, free schools, free college education — as we careen toward $30 trillion in debt.”
― Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:44 (seven years ago)
and of course the debt only counts when we’re talking about public benefit - trump’s tax cuts can add a staggering amount to the deficit and no-one in the gop blinks an eye
― Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:48 (seven years ago)
Granted everyone having a government job could be the military. Fuck it, I would be for mandatory military service if that gave people healthcare, a pension, free higher education etc. Tricare for everyone.
― Yerac, Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:54 (seven years ago)
Her platform seems entirely reasonable, but people hate to share unless it's their head on the block.
― Yerac, Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:56 (seven years ago)
I'm been teetering between my usual pessimism and cynicism and arguably worse things, like desperation and nihilism and fatalism. There are few reasons to be hopeful. At the same time, I sort of sometimes sense that feeling is itself, weirdly enough, a kind of luxury stemming from all the progress made more or less just over the span of my lifetime. Things feel desperate because we know what's at stake. We know what's at stake because we've overcome so much. When idiot was elected I had this conversation with a few people. In the '60s, we had MLK assassinated, Malcolm X assassinated, Kennedy and his brother assassinated, we were at unwinnable war (with a draft), racism was *legal*. And somehow things got better, even if we almost immediately got Nixon. And then soon after, Reagan. At the same time, it's disheartening to watch and listen to what is in essence the aggressive rejection and repudiation of decades of social progress. Just because those battles were mostly won does not make it heartbreaking to have to fight them all over again, for no reason at all beyond spite and ignorance and bad intentions and nihilism. There are all sorts of bad players in this, but I sometimes wonder if, similar to what I was babbling about above, some people really understand what's at stake, because they've spent their lives with much less at stake, thanks to progress in civil rights, labor rights, reproductive rights, economic rights, and so on, rights that have made their lives even slightly easier or better that they take for granted.
Anyway, I liked this thread:
I tweeted this earlier today but just going to say again: abolitionists lost every single SCOTUS case. every single one. John Brown failed. And chattel slavery is over now.— Dr. T’Chanda Prescod-Weinstein🙅🏽♀️ 🇧🇧 (@IBJIYONGI) June 27, 2018
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:57 (seven years ago)
just a lotta bloodshed was needed
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:59 (seven years ago)
Yes, but at least people were willing to fight. I had this discussion with a friend yesterday, though: would people have mobilized in large, diverse numbers *without* the draft? The last years seems to indicate "yes," but I don't know what effect that has had so far.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:03 (seven years ago)
My biggest worry, I realized last night, is that people who live in liberal-leaning states fight for their rights while those in conservative ones let their citizens die because, thanks to recent SCOTUS rulings and where we're going jurisprudentially, we're becoming an atomized country, reminiscent of the pre-New Deal and Progressive days: if you wanted redress, seek it from your state government because the fed can do nothing.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:04 (seven years ago)
It will take a couple more severe shocks, at least, to get 60s-style/levels of mobilization going, I think. Society is much more atomized than before so it's tough. Kids in cages has upped the tension level; I shudder to think of what the next big trigger could be. (Roe v Wade getting overturned will be a big one but I suspect something else will happen sooner.) (xp!)
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:07 (seven years ago)
That atomisation is also a result of income inequality. Are those on the positive side of that inequality going to risk their status for those not on that side?
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:13 (seven years ago)
Well, they're increasingly outnumbered, so it might not matter.
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:14 (seven years ago)
if you wanted redress, seek it from your state government because the fed can do nothing.
Might be for the best, especially if/when Roe is overturned and 20+ states at the very least consider banning abortion immediately. Hell, in Ohio last year, iirc, there was a bill that wanted to make abortion a death penalty offense. If people on the local level are harmed or aggrieved or persecuted/prosecuted, that is an opportunity to more rapidly change the balance of all the states away from right wing policies as a bulwark against Federal antipathy or indifference. Back to what I was saying about taking things for granted, I wonder how many people actually do want to live in a heartless right wing neo-theocracy, whether the thing they have been implicitly clamoring for for decades is actually the thing they actively want.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:18 (seven years ago)
I am sure there are loads of people who are fine with letting women in their family go to jail for miscarrying but unable to prove it wasn't an illegal abortion.
― Yerac, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:29 (seven years ago)
the atomization is also happening on an individual/personal level, too. many people have smaller and looser social circles. I often think about what I could do to influence people until I realize how bad I am at influencing people on even the most minor of things.
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:49 (seven years ago)
A helpful Red State update.
It can be difficult to pay for healthcare services not covered by insurance. #OnJuly1inTN a new law allows physicians to accept a barter of goods and services in exchange for healthcare services.— TN Senate GOP Caucus (@tnsenategop) June 26, 2018
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:50 (seven years ago)
(worth reading for comments)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:52 (seven years ago)
pawn shop usa
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:52 (seven years ago)
I would actually say that is a useful law if the doctors only accepted guns.
― Yerac, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:55 (seven years ago)
Armed medical militia really could bring about Ragnarok though
― imago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:02 (seven years ago)
Or if it was a reducing guns program. But whatever, we can't count on any lawmaker that wants to spend money on constituents. So, oral sex for all doctors!
― Yerac, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:04 (seven years ago)
worth remembering ragnarok brings about new life in the end mebbes
― Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:19 (seven years ago)
the apocalypse gets a bad rap rly
― Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:20 (seven years ago)
The apocalypse will ultimately only be tragic because other non-human species will have to suffer the fallout (possibly literally) of our insistence upon self-annihilation.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:32 (seven years ago)
We need some Captain Trips action up in this piece imo.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:33 (seven years ago)
Josh Marshal:
How do we react? I wrote yesterday that we can’t expect the courts to save us? That was clear with yesterday’s decisions. It’s even more overwhelmingly clear today. Litigation remains critical. But the fight for voting rights, for instance, will be won at the ballot box. Change will come through robust political coalitions — at the local and state level, building to the federal level. Everything else must follow the same path. We are on our own, left to our own devices. The history, whatever mistakes, misfortunes and interventions, is simply the terrain we now grapple with.
Coming off the brutal 2004 election, George Bush was reelected with his Republican majorities after an unexpected midterm election pick-up in 2002. There were numerous articles and even books explaining the Republicans’ “permanent majority,” a mix of wedge issues, money and geography which locked in a Republican majority something like forever. Two years later the entire Republican congressional party was shattered. Things change quickly – often dramatically and at the worst moment. I continue to believe that the Republican right is involved in an essentially defensive action, trying to lock in policy gains and anti-democratic obstacles to stave off an electorate which is growing and largely hostile to their views.
That’s an analysis, a prediction. But predictions and analyses can be wrong. We don’t know the future. As an historian, I know we don’t even really know the past. I wrote this the day after President Trump’s election: “At such a moment I come back to a thought I’ve told family members at times of stress or grief. Optimism isn’t principally an analysis of present reality. It’s an ethic. It is not based on denial or rosy thinking. It is a moral posture toward the world we find ourselves in. If everything seems great, there’s no need for optimism. The river of good news just carries you along.”
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:35 (seven years ago)
I mean, I apologize because I already know people are going to yell at me for this, but at this point I see optimism as about as rational as climate change denial
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:18 (seven years ago)
WATCH: Our interview with former @ICEgov spokesperson James Schwab was interrupted by a surprise visit from government agents.@JamieYuccas reports ➡️ https://t.co/QlDGflrdP4 pic.twitter.com/4shmAqutD8— CBS This Morning (@CBSThisMorning) June 28, 2018
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:22 (seven years ago)
holy shit
― Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:25 (seven years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/Vn0U7D2.gif
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:28 (seven years ago)
love the tactical sunglasses the agent on the right is wearing
― Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:30 (seven years ago)
Ive turned off all feeds for stories, i cannot take the endless stream of shitnews with long long tails. Cant’t play right now. Cant do it.
― Hunt3r, Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:30 (seven years ago)
Yeah, I'm self-imposing a news blackout while I drink beers and get sunburnt next week and I'm not sure when/if I'll return to it tbh. Like I can feel the stress taking a physical toll, and what the hell can I even do about shit like this ffs.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:39 (seven years ago)
Taking no position on how good it doesn't or doesn't feel to post about criminal activity on ILX, it is not a good idea to do it for your own sake and I would recommend against it.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:52 (seven years ago)
An email thread among my housemates, including a specific phrase uttered by one of them, was a key piece of evidence in a recent J20 trial.
I know but my coping mechanisms are all out of wack
― devops mom (silby), Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:53 (seven years ago)
(and the one who uttered the phrase wasn't the one on trial) xp
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:53 (seven years ago)
I'd make being a vulgar and incoherent crank at public comment sessions at city hall my new hobby but I've got a job
― devops mom (silby), Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:54 (seven years ago)
please be the new whats up bootlickers tho
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:17 (seven years ago)
starting to get a bad feeling that everyone's gonna walk because of this Strozk thing
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:23 (seven years ago)
not legally.. but the court of public opinion consists of morons so maybe
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:24 (seven years ago)
yeah legally I don't think this will have much impact
this is being overshadowed by the SC stuff afaict
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:25 (seven years ago)
Nate Silver on the David French line about a SCOTUS pick helping GOP enthusiasm:
But let me pick a few nits with French’s claim. One questionable assertion is his idea that “a new Supreme Court pick will galvanize the entire [Republican] base for months.” That may understate how many other stories the Supreme Court pick will compete with for attention. The news cycle moves very quickly these days, and Trump’s nomination of Neil Gorsuch for the Supreme Court last year was a major news story for only a couple of weeks. The death of Antonin Scalia and the Republican refusal to consider Barack Obama’s nomination of Merrick Garland also did not gain much traction as a news story in the 2016 campaign given how much else was going on.
Perhaps, as the exit poll data implies, the Supreme Court was an overlooked issue in 2016 that was more important to evangelical voters and other parts of the Republican base than the media assumed. But it was not necessarily a top-of-mind issue to these voters. The exit poll question specifically prompted voters to think about the Supreme Court. But when Gallup and other pollsters ask open-ended questions about what issues are most important, the Supreme Court doesn’t really register. Nor does abortion, for that matter, with issues such as immigration and the economy rating as being much more important.
Also, assuming Trump has his choice confirmed by the Senate before the midterms, the Supreme Court will arguably be more of a backward-looking issue in 2018 than it was in 2016. I say “arguably” because Kennedy probably won’t be the last justice to retire under Trump; liberals Ginsburg and Breyer are retirement risks, as is conservative Clarence Thomas. Still, in 2016, voters were deciding on an open Supreme Court seat and not just the prospect of further vacancies.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:10 (seven years ago)
I can't imagine Ginsburg retiring under these circumstances, she will go to the grave first.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:15 (seven years ago)
She could become incapable of continuing in the job, it does happen to people at that age.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:16 (seven years ago)
as morbid as it is john mccain is a comparison point here, until recently he still continued in the job despite being far worse off than rbg
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:18 (seven years ago)
I wish Thomas had retied yesterday.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:18 (seven years ago)
xp, that's true, and her clerks can (and probably do) 95% of the work for her, they can just up it to 98% or whatever.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:20 (seven years ago)
it is truly upsetting that he remains alive, yes
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:21 (seven years ago)
well at least he got to stick his thumb in McConnell and Trump's eye over the ACA
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:24 (seven years ago)
People were mad at the Dems for applauding McCain when he returned to the chamber post diagnosis but I wonder if he would have done that solid re:ACA had they...I don’t know say done something overtly uncivil in that context.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:30 (seven years ago)
So after they overturn Roe, will the GOP rallying cry be "vote for us, or they'll make abortion legal again?"
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:39 (seven years ago)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:41 (seven years ago)
definitely.
― Hunt3r, Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:54 (seven years ago)
Are we going to have states, then, that keep flipping between illegal and legal?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:59 (seven years ago)
Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election! Where is the DNC Server, and why didn’t Shady James Comey and the now disgraced FBI agents take and closely examine it? Why isn’t Hillary/Russia being looked at? So many questions, so much corruption!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 28, 2018
Russia says it didn't happen. also why is no one looking at Hillary/Russia. DO SOMETHING!!
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:01 (seven years ago)
rockabye sweet shady james
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:08 (seven years ago)
God even when this asshole gets only good news for him and his asshole cronies all week it's whine whine whine. never hated anyone so much in all my goddamn life.
― This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:10 (seven years ago)
Because I will take small pleasures as the ship sinks:
Rod Rosenstein skillfully SMACKS DOWN Rep. Jim Jordan in a cinematic way…“There’s no way to subpoena phone calls.”Must watch: https://t.co/rAbWDIt1k1— Jason K. Morrell (@CNNJason) June 28, 2018
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:11 (seven years ago)
xp agreed. he's whining cause he's still scared tho, so that's my silver lining.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:12 (seven years ago)
Given the non stop bullshit from the GOP, I see every incentive for the FBI to be exactly what they are being accused of being and work double-time to take these assholes down.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:13 (seven years ago)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:14 (seven years ago)
in the end I think these guys will all pay for fucking with the FBI, as has historically been the case
When was a case that the FBI got back at some government asshole? I don't know my history well enough.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:17 (seven years ago)
Ever hear of a guy called Mark Felt?
― can'tdelabra (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:22 (seven years ago)
Ha, I was about to come back to post "besides Mark Felt!"
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:24 (seven years ago)
In his case, though, how was what he did payback? Payback for what? For Nixon breaking the law? But he did it under the guise of righteousness, not revenge. Right?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:26 (seven years ago)
motivation is irrelevant
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:29 (seven years ago)
Well, your implication was that fucking with the FBI will get you fucked. Felt didn't need that prodding. But under this congress and administration, the FBI is being actively impugned.
The whole exchange with Jordan is in here, btw:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/06/28/jim-jordan-reveals-just-how-nutty-republicans-have-become/
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:30 (seven years ago)
have you heard of J. Edgar Hoover
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:32 (seven years ago)
wow @ that CBS This Morning clip
my my but the "libertarians" on facebook sure are quiet these days
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:33 (seven years ago)
Hoover was a thug who fucked with people *before* he was fucked with. Basically the sort of person the GOP is accusing many in the FBI of behaving like now. I'm just saying that the idea that the likes of Jordan or Nunes or whomever will get theirs for messing with the FBI is unfounded, unless the FBI has some actual evidence of criminal wrongdoing or the like. In which case the FBI would be taking them down regardless of their behavior. My point was that their behavior is so crazy and beyond the pale that it's all but daring the FBI to become what they are accused of being, an aggressive, conspiratorial off the leash bunch of plotters.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:41 (seven years ago)
eventually everyone folds for the boss or gets folded. don't like it? better change that boss. clock is ticking.
― Hunt3r, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:42 (seven years ago)
Possibly already linked -- had to take a break from this thread for some calm -- but some fun here:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-inconvenient-legal-troubles-that-lie-ahead-for-the-trump-foundation
Civil trial in October and the judge has refused to delay the date at Trump's lawyer's request, while also pretty much telling them 'you know, you all should probably settle this.' Key bits:
Most private companies keep their internal financial information secret. The Trump Organization, though, is unusually opaque. Even now, despite all of the scrutiny it has faced, there is much we don’t know about how it raises funds, spends money, and functions internally.A series of subpoenaed e-mails and a fascinating deposition offer a glimpse into the work of a mysterious figure, Allen Weisselberg, who has handled Donald Trump’s finances for as long as he’s had any. First hired by the President’s father, Fred Trump, Weisselberg has been the one steady presence in the Trump Organization for the entire period that Donald Trump has run the company. I have spoken to many current and former Trump Organization employees who have shared the same description of the company: it is a chaotic mess, in which projects are randomly distributed to in-house staff. A lawyer might be asked to negotiate a real-estate deal, an executive might be tasked with setting up a product-licensing arrangement. While there are traditional titles, such as general counsel or senior vice-president of operations, there is no standard business hierarchy. Trump, before he became President, would tell people what they should do with no clear regard for consistency. The currency of the place was always one’s proximity to the big boss, Donald Trump, so people didn’t tell colleagues which projects they were handling, out of fear that those colleagues might undermine them. I heard, repeatedly, that there were only two people who knew about every deal the company made: Trump himself and Allen Weisselberg. However, Trump, rather famously, rarely concerned himself with details and often forgot who had received which assignments and how different deals were structured.Weisselberg’s testimony in the trial, then, could prove revealing. He is perhaps the only non-family member who knows the inner workings of the Trump Organization. Michael Cohen will be a key figure in understanding Trump’s recent business relationships with several overseas partners suspected of potentially engaging in money laundering, corruption, and sanctions violations. (A federal criminal investigation of Cohen includes more than four million business files that will soon be turned over to investigators and are likely to shed light on the company’s operations during the ten years that Cohen was involved.) But it is only Weisselberg who can recount the essence of the Trump Organization from the beginning of Donald Trump’s involvement: in the nineteen-seventies, when the company first discriminated against African-Americans; in the eighties, when Trump appears to have been in business with the New York mafia; in the nineties, when Trump’s casino was in violation of anti-money-laundering laws; and through the aughts, as Trump developed ties to many Russian and former-Soviet oligarchs and political figures.
A series of subpoenaed e-mails and a fascinating deposition offer a glimpse into the work of a mysterious figure, Allen Weisselberg, who has handled Donald Trump’s finances for as long as he’s had any. First hired by the President’s father, Fred Trump, Weisselberg has been the one steady presence in the Trump Organization for the entire period that Donald Trump has run the company. I have spoken to many current and former Trump Organization employees who have shared the same description of the company: it is a chaotic mess, in which projects are randomly distributed to in-house staff. A lawyer might be asked to negotiate a real-estate deal, an executive might be tasked with setting up a product-licensing arrangement. While there are traditional titles, such as general counsel or senior vice-president of operations, there is no standard business hierarchy. Trump, before he became President, would tell people what they should do with no clear regard for consistency. The currency of the place was always one’s proximity to the big boss, Donald Trump, so people didn’t tell colleagues which projects they were handling, out of fear that those colleagues might undermine them. I heard, repeatedly, that there were only two people who knew about every deal the company made: Trump himself and Allen Weisselberg. However, Trump, rather famously, rarely concerned himself with details and often forgot who had received which assignments and how different deals were structured.
Weisselberg’s testimony in the trial, then, could prove revealing. He is perhaps the only non-family member who knows the inner workings of the Trump Organization. Michael Cohen will be a key figure in understanding Trump’s recent business relationships with several overseas partners suspected of potentially engaging in money laundering, corruption, and sanctions violations. (A federal criminal investigation of Cohen includes more than four million business files that will soon be turned over to investigators and are likely to shed light on the company’s operations during the ten years that Cohen was involved.) But it is only Weisselberg who can recount the essence of the Trump Organization from the beginning of Donald Trump’s involvement: in the nineteen-seventies, when the company first discriminated against African-Americans; in the eighties, when Trump appears to have been in business with the New York mafia; in the nineties, when Trump’s casino was in violation of anti-money-laundering laws; and through the aughts, as Trump developed ties to many Russian and former-Soviet oligarchs and political figures.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:43 (seven years ago)
opposition needs to get the story going NOW and CLEAR that all appointments under trump WILL BE REVERSED and ANNULLED in the event of his removal for cause. who's doing that story?
― Hunt3r, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:44 (seven years ago)
Hoover was a thug who fucked with people *before* he was fucked with.
^this
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:45 (seven years ago)
The/a question is if things keep accelerating/amplifying, and Mueller or whomever is not done looking into the shit they're looking into, would they release an incomplete report as an emergency measure? Clearly they know all sorts of shit at this point. The Manafort charges alone go deep. If Mueller et al. are going to be shut down, or if issues of national security (like, say, an election) are at stake, would they or can they intervene and at least indicate the direction things are heading in, or would that undercut the whole weight of the investigation?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:46 (seven years ago)
Ted Lieu's audible sigh of a self promotional tweet: "I will soon be questioning Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein and @FBI Director Christopher Wray at this stupid and ridiculous emergency Judiciary Committee hearing on Hillary Clinton's emails from 2016."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
would they release an incomplete report as an emergency measure?
Mueller doesn't strike me as the sort who would do that. He seems more of a methodical prosecutor, who will prefer to gather and arrange the evidence into as complete a picture as possible, knocking off each major player only when he's built the most airtight case he can.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:59 (seven years ago)
Yay, horseshoe theory still a thing
Extremism was already on the rise before Trump, but he has turbocharged it. With his reactionary agenda and his unhinged attacks on Democrats as traitors and criminals, he is ushering in the rise of a new class of radicals who will play by his rules. Me: https://t.co/zb9t6DkgHU— Max Boot (@MaxBoot) June 28, 2018
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/06/28/trumps-far-right-extremism-is-driving-his-opponents-to-the-far-left/
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:35 (seven years ago)
lmao that profile picture
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:40 (seven years ago)
There are certainly some people whose existence in the discourse make it silly to deny it’s obviously a real thing.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:40 (seven years ago)
extremism on the right: separating parents from children, fascist fear-mongering, suppressing democracy, looking the other way when nazis attack peopleextremism on the left: a social safety net, rolling back an immigration thug organization established under GWB, phasing out fossil fuels
clearly both equally bad, good luck USA
― This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:42 (seven years ago)
extreme health care for all!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:42 (seven years ago)
I just mean the type of people who self identify as left wing but complain about SJWs.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:44 (seven years ago)
Kelly reportedly exiting this summer.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:45 (seven years ago)
Alas, will still be existing.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:46 (seven years ago)
shorter max boot: polarization exists, we should probably bomb someone about it
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:52 (seven years ago)
love to just bomb out my feelings
― devops mom (silby), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:54 (seven years ago)
jack boot morelike amirite
― Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:56 (seven years ago)
"Me:"
― devops mom (silby), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:57 (seven years ago)
starting to feel like the center might not have held gang
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:57 (seven years ago)
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, June 28, 2018 2:44 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I believe the blanket term for these people is 'fucking morons' iirc.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:57 (seven years ago)
professional writers are insane
"I wrote a thing"
"Me"
"my latest"
chill, dude
― devops mom (silby), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:58 (seven years ago)
xpost As in 'that fucking moron doesn't understand the basic definition of the words he's using, what a fucking moron.'
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:58 (seven years ago)
The "14 words" is a white supremacist slogan that goes "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children." New DHS press release is also 14 words, and is titled: "We Must Secure The Border And Build The Wall To Make America Safe Again" https://t.co/1cXGUqlwPq— Christopher Mathias (@letsgomathias) June 28, 2018
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:02 (seven years ago)
technically it's from February -- obviously that is not the key point but
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:03 (seven years ago)
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Thursday, June 28, 2018 7:57 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i mean there are tankies (e.g. doctrinaire "support the Democratic People's Republic of Korea" communists) and anarchists you'll find out there who rail against "SJWs/radlibs" as essentially being liberals masquerading as radicals through their vocabulary
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:03 (seven years ago)
i feel like i'm always seeing those maniacs pop up on random twitter threads but i find it hard to believe there's actually that many of them
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:22 (seven years ago)
at this point I'm giving them no benefit of the doubt on that 14 words thing
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:25 (seven years ago)
JD i tend to think they're small and fringe in the U.S., where we don't have a strong organized communist history, but that's just not true in the wider world, and it's easy to find people from the global south constantly dunking on western leftists--they, i think, are much greater in number.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:35 (seven years ago)
normal times
Right now: 4 NYPD officers stationed outside @nytimes headquarters as a precaution after newsroom shooting in Maryland #nbc4ny pic.twitter.com/j2a9M9w7zk— Michael George (@mgeorge4NY) June 28, 2018
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:59 (seven years ago)
the huge rallies on Saturday ought to be interesting, stay safe everyone
― sleeve, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:01 (seven years ago)
wtf at my tortured syntax, sorry
― sleeve, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:02 (seven years ago)
at the risk of turning into QAnon, uh...what the hell??
There are 14 points in the article, and the final point contains the number "88" for no good reason -- 88 is also a Nazi dog whistle for "Heil Hitler". https://t.co/WLT3CEqfUw There is absolutely no doubt now that this article is intentionally a signal to Nazis. pic.twitter.com/njS5MDMNIr— Laurie Voss (@seldo) June 28, 2018
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:16 (seven years ago)
i'm petrified of some panzerwaffen militia group showing up at a mass demonstration tbh. with the amount of guns in this country, seems like the next likely frontier in our slide into 'incivility' and indifference to gun violence
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:19 (seven years ago)
My barber had CNN on when Rosenstein was testifying. Someone needs to shit down Darrell Issa's throat, pronto.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:21 (seven years ago)
That Rosenstein grilling made my blood boil.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:35 (seven years ago)
Darrell Issa is going to be gone by November Morbz. Still deserves a good throat-shitting tho
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:37 (seven years ago)
I read that as "throat-slitting" and thought, "Here we go again..."
― Martin Landau Ballet (Leee), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:40 (seven years ago)
― sleeve, Thursday, June 28, 2018 4:01 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm set to go to one of these on Saturday. A little nervous, but we can't allow ourselves to be cowed, can we?
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:55 (seven years ago)
I was planning on going to the big rally in front of the state house on Saturday but then just got an invite from Movimiento Cosecha to join a civil disobedience later in the day, targeted at one of the local prisons, to protest cooperation between our local law enforcement and ICE. Now I need to perform some sort of impact analysis to decide which one to do.
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:09 (seven years ago)
the latter
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:15 (seven years ago)
agreed, you can always post your Gofundme here and we'll help you pay your fine
― sleeve, Friday, 29 June 2018 00:07 (seven years ago)
absolutely
― Simon H., Friday, 29 June 2018 00:08 (seven years ago)
Thank you. <3
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Friday, 29 June 2018 00:10 (seven years ago)
Not nervous at all, taking the kids on Saturday, it's going to be a family outing.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 00:20 (seven years ago)
Boston area ilxors interested in the action vs ICE, there’s a training tomorrow eve for it. Pm me for details (or check Cosecha Boston’s fb page).
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Friday, 29 June 2018 00:29 (seven years ago)
1. The report is from ABC NEWS and this is very significant for various reasons. Prime reason being: ILLEGALLY FUNNELING MONEY into the Trump campaign. https://t.co/Yn1LMFs3vN— Ale (@aliasvaughn) June 28, 2018
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2018 01:00 (seven years ago)
The show seems to be headed to one hell of a sweeps week sometime this summer.
― earlnash, Friday, 29 June 2018 01:53 (seven years ago)
overton window keeps on a-movin'
News: @SenGillibrand just told Chris Cuomo she supports abolishing ICE.— we're going to abolish ICE (@SeanMcElwee) June 29, 2018
― Simon H., Friday, 29 June 2018 01:53 (seven years ago)
my lord what is it with russiagate people and neverending tweet threads
― Simon H., Friday, 29 June 2018 01:55 (seven years ago)
Hey hell yeah CG kick it with Cosecha! What part of the country are you in? I might know some of the folks that'll be there.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 June 2018 02:01 (seven years ago)
huh. over $1bn in loans. what a coincidence
One person who knows both men remarked on the affinity between Mr. Trump and Justice Kennedy, which is not obvious at first glance. Justice Kennedy is bookish and abstract, while Mr. Trump is earthy and direct.
But they had a connection, one Mr. Trump was quick to note in the moments after his first address to Congress in February 2017. As he made his way out of the chamber, Mr. Trump paused to chat with the justice.
“Say hello to your boy,” Mr. Trump said. “Special guy.”
Mr. Trump was apparently referring to Justice Kennedy’s son, Justin. The younger Mr. Kennedy spent more than a decade at Deutsche Bank, eventually rising to become the bank’s global head of real estate capital markets, and he worked closely with Mr. Trump when he was a real estate developer, according to two people with knowledge of his role.
During Mr. Kennedy’s tenure, Deutsche Bank became Mr. Trump’s most important lender, dispensing well over $1 billion in loans to him for the renovation and construction of skyscrapers in New York and Chicago at a time other mainstream banks were wary of doing business with him because of his troubled business history.
About a week before the presidential address, Ivanka Trump had paid a visit to the Supreme Court as a guest of Justice Kennedy. The two had met at a lunch after the inauguration, and Ms. Trump brought along her daughter, Arabella Kushner. Occupying seats reserved for special guests, they saw the justices announce several decisions and hear an oral argument.
Ms. Trump tweeted about the visit and posted a photo. “Arabella & me at the Supreme Court today,” she wrote. “I’m grateful for the opportunity to teach her about the judicial system in our country firsthand.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/28/us/politics/trump-anthony-kennedy-retirement.html
― maura, Friday, 29 June 2018 02:22 (seven years ago)
Yeah, that story came close to making me wretch.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 June 2018 02:23 (seven years ago)
hey at least it proves that he wasn't only in hock to russia!!!!!
― maura, Friday, 29 June 2018 02:25 (seven years ago)
http://www.newsweek.com/2017/12/29/donald-trump-russia-secret-deutsche-bank-753780.html
― maura, Friday, 29 June 2018 02:26 (seven years ago)
Mr. Trump is earthy and direct crude and crass.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 29 June 2018 02:26 (seven years ago)
Fucking Jesus
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 June 2018 02:27 (seven years ago)
I was juuuust thinking this morning that there's no way Kennedy made the decision to retire in a vacuum.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 June 2018 02:32 (seven years ago)
he cashed out
― maura, Friday, 29 June 2018 02:42 (seven years ago)
might be time to abolish the supreme court along with all that other stuff
― Simon H., Friday, 29 June 2018 02:46 (seven years ago)
Xxxp big hoos I’m in Boston!
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Friday, 29 June 2018 02:51 (seven years ago)
holy shit. listening to that brit harding last year who wrote about deutsche underwriting trump against all odds, and now to hear this. that. is. amazing.
https://www.npr.org/2017/11/21/565654507/journalist-investigating-trump-and-russia-says-full-picture-is-one-of-collusion
― Hunt3r, Friday, 29 June 2018 03:06 (seven years ago)
i think there's gonna be stuff here (NM) but it's moving day for me -- if there's stuff up in santa i'm gonna try to go
― gbx, Friday, 29 June 2018 03:06 (seven years ago)
ha maura sorry i hit your link afterwards, lol. yup. xp
― Hunt3r, Friday, 29 June 2018 03:08 (seven years ago)
pretty safe to protest in NYC as we have a mostly unarmed populace
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 June 2018 03:13 (seven years ago)
best of luck to all Ilxors protesting on Saturday, I'm proud of you all and you are doing great, great work
― Arthur Funzonerelli (stevie), Friday, 29 June 2018 06:50 (seven years ago)
Douche Bank also just failed their stress test, which is hilarious.
― Yerac, Friday, 29 June 2018 07:51 (seven years ago)
I'm not saying the stress tests are easy but they are not hard since you know they are coming up and you have loads of time to prepare.
― Yerac, Friday, 29 June 2018 07:52 (seven years ago)
(Voiceover: there were 13 points in the article)
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 June 2018 09:31 (seven years ago)
Also the article (by which we mean press release) is about DHS's ardent desire to build a wall because 'illegal alien crime' is "a large portion of total crime". Nazi pareidolia seems at best point-missing, and at worse "wait, but what if this were bad?"
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 June 2018 09:35 (seven years ago)
Idk I thought the press release’s title similarity to the 14 words and the inclusion of 88 in there were enough to make me believe it was intentional.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 29 June 2018 14:10 (seven years ago)
The title similarity seems totally intentional to me. It's the opposite of surprising if there are hardcore nu-fash types working at DHS.
― Simon H., Friday, 29 June 2018 14:13 (seven years ago)
Okay, sure, someone blew on this whistle and the dogs immediately came running and it has the image of a dog engraved on it but that doesn't make it a dog whistle per se. It's not like it was purchased at a pet store...oh, it was? Well, it could be a whistle for any kind of pet then. A cat, perhaps, or a goldfish.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 June 2018 14:14 (seven years ago)
i'd be willing to buy it was a coincidence if this administration hadn't "accidentally" signaled to Nazis so many times already
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)
good mourning!!!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 June 2018 14:17 (seven years ago)
Maxine Waters says she's faced increased threats, cancels attending 2 events
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/28/politics/maxine-waters-threatened/index.html
― sleeve, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:19 (seven years ago)
Civility!
― devops mom (silby), Friday, 29 June 2018 14:20 (seven years ago)
America is great because America is good
My 5-yr-old client can’t tell me what country she is from. We prepare her case by drawing pictures with crayons of the gang members that would wait outside her school. Sometimes she wants to draw ice cream cones and hearts instead. She is in deportation proceedings alone. https://t.co/johWiKbzHh— Laura Barrera, Esq. (@abogada_laura) June 28, 2018
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:25 (seven years ago)
I increasingly wish i could recover my belief in hell
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 June 2018 14:34 (seven years ago)
it's all around, if you just open your heart and take a look
― This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Friday, 29 June 2018 14:41 (seven years ago)
Well, I'm no expert. Fortunately..
https://t.co/bTpoV4DSXq— Mark Pitcavage (@egavactip) June 29, 2018
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:57 (seven years ago)
at this point i'm not trusting any white man who's saying 'but it's not REALLY a nazi reference' to anything emanating from this white house
if that makes me crazy, whatever
― maura, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:59 (seven years ago)
nah I'm with you and I'm a white guy
― sleeve, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:59 (seven years ago)
This was a bit prescienthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmkFDb79-nk
― Stevolende, Friday, 29 June 2018 15:05 (seven years ago)
― maura, Friday, June 29, 2018 9:59 AM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
B-but he kicked off his mansplanation with an 'actually'! He clearly knows his stuff!
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 June 2018 15:10 (seven years ago)
truly what is going on? https://t.co/u41VSVENBK— Charlie Warzel (@cwarzel) June 29, 2018
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 29 June 2018 15:25 (seven years ago)
I wish I could find the facebook comment a friend made to the effect that the Nazis in 1933 weren't the 1939 Nazis or the 1943 Nazis either, and maybe this administration will or won't head all the way in that direction but it's bad enough as it is and there are certainly signs.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 29 June 2018 15:32 (seven years ago)
I think it's safe to assume that any group which strongly emphasizes their white identity is ultimately capable of any of the heinous shit which has historically been perpetrated by those who did likewise. It's a banner which functions as a tacit justification for psychotic behavior.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 June 2018 15:49 (seven years ago)
Putin's heel https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jun/29/quit-eu-bilateral-trade-deal-trump-told-macron-us-france-terms
― Arthur Funzonerelli (stevie), Friday, 29 June 2018 16:14 (seven years ago)
weird tactical manuver to go after france directly and not tinker around the edges of italy portugal spain or whatever.
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 29 June 2018 16:32 (seven years ago)
Not sure where else to put this but here, but more ripple effects from SESTA/FOSTA:
Virginia makes law to arrest & indefinitely detain without bail the partners, employees and roommates of sex workers. https://t.co/ps5mTC2ool— Maggie McNeill (@Maggie_McNeill) June 26, 2018
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 29 June 2018 16:44 (seven years ago)
just gonna throw in a "fuck you" to everyone who voted for SESTA/FOSTA (incl Bernie)
― Simon H., Friday, 29 June 2018 16:46 (seven years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg4BPVbWAAAUBQo.jpg:small
― mookieproof, Friday, 29 June 2018 17:30 (seven years ago)
double huck
― can'tdelabra (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 29 June 2018 17:34 (seven years ago)
Sextagenarian emoji?
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 June 2018 17:35 (seven years ago)
god damn
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 29 June 2018 17:40 (seven years ago)
hyuckabee
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 29 June 2018 18:02 (seven years ago)
A podcast host pretending he was Sen. Bob Menendez tried prank-calling the President — and it workedhttps://t.co/zF49oxIjQH— Axios (@axios) June 29, 2018
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 29 June 2018 18:26 (seven years ago)
wait, did trump really think Menendez was from North Dakota or was that a typo?
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 29 June 2018 18:40 (seven years ago)
i looked up the podcast, it mostly appears to suck but i skipped around and found the call around 1 hr 6 minutes
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 29 June 2018 18:42 (seven years ago)
he knows who Macron is, probably generally thinks France stands in for all of Europe. no other countries have fries, so they don't count as real.
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Friday, 29 June 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
Come on. France and Europe are two completely different countries. Lots of people are saying it.
Whenever you're trying to assess Trump's thinking, it helps to assume his level of understanding wrt most things is about on par with a dog of medium intelligence.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 June 2018 18:53 (seven years ago)
Like, I'd be genuinely impressed if he could point to Europe on a map without assistance.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 June 2018 18:54 (seven years ago)
trump is an idiot but he has to know who stuttering john is no? he’s been on stern a bunch
― maura, Friday, 29 June 2018 18:56 (seven years ago)
Students came to peacefully protest the Idaho State GOP Convention. Rep. Priscilla Giddings took a picture with them and posted it to FB with the following caption: pic.twitter.com/zbjLySRtbP— Anne Helen Petersen (@annehelen) June 29, 2018
the fuck?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 29 June 2018 18:57 (seven years ago)
idgi
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 June 2018 18:58 (seven years ago)
why would anyone be carrying around an empty shell casing from a cannon, and why would protestors be interested in seeing one
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 June 2018 19:00 (seven years ago)
Should I threaten these protesters with implied violence y/n
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 29 June 2018 19:00 (seven years ago)
but civility
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 29 June 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)
I'd told my kids we were going to the march/protest tomorrow, and they didn't really say much (that's just what mom and do every few months). But I learned today that on her own my older kid convinced a couple of her friends to come, too, and they're apparently getting together tonight to make signs. It's a win-win: protest and crafts! Not a bad two-for for summer vacation.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 19:12 (seven years ago)
Trophy from shooting a man in Pocatello just to watch him die, iirc.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 June 2018 19:15 (seven years ago)
I guess mentioning ammo is implied violence but she's specifically citing a) spent ammo and b) ammo that you couldn't use to shoot anybody anyway, unless you happen to have a military aircraft or a cannon, which is kinda weird in itself
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 June 2018 19:15 (seven years ago)
no other countries have fries
Au contraire, mon frere.
Turkey fries: http://www.texas-backyard-bbq.com/turkey-fries.html
― this ukulele annoys fascists (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 29 June 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)
I guess one of the kid's signs says artillery? maybe that's what she's referring to. implying that these kids don't know the difference between military artillery (which she apparently carries around in her truck for some reason? to remind her of past military conflicts?) and assault weapons?
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 June 2018 19:17 (seven years ago)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_mm_caliber
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 June 2018 19:18 (seven years ago)
it's a totally weird
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 29 June 2018 19:22 (seven years ago)
it's a me, mario iirc
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 29 June 2018 19:23 (seven years ago)
maybe it's one of those "gotcha!" things where she *wants* people to respond like it's a threat just so she can turn around and say "lol u morans, don't you know what an empty 30mm shell is, I just wanted to show them this cool military souvenir"
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 June 2018 19:24 (seven years ago)
i figured it was her letting them know she’d been shot at. a dick move no matter what
― maura, Friday, 29 June 2018 19:26 (seven years ago)
she's specifically citing a) spent ammo Maybe she looked at her reference to a 30mm shell just before posting and thought “I’d better not make it look like I mean anything violent here” and added the word “empty” before it
― Karl Malone, Friday, 29 June 2018 19:27 (seven years ago)
That round is so big you could hurt someone just throwing it at them.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 19:30 (seven years ago)
well it would definitely be illegal for her to be carting around a live 30mm shell. it's the size of a fucking coke bottle.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 June 2018 19:30 (seven years ago)
weird how my dog is several states away and I can still hear it barking
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 29 June 2018 19:32 (seven years ago)
Do you think I should show these girls my bloodstained chainsaw that’s out of fuel?
― Karl Malone, Friday, 29 June 2018 19:34 (seven years ago)
The statement, like the shell, is empty.
Kinda wish she'd gone through with it. "Look, you naïve anti-gun kids, here's a thing that used to be ammunition! SEE? Now doesn't that change your mind about everything you _thought_ you knew?"
Meanwhile the kids are looking at her, looking at the shell, looking at each other, and going "So what?"
And she's like "But don't you get it? Look! It's a shell! And I even know the proper way to refer to it, which is by its diameter!"
"Um, whatever, lady. We still don't think dying is cool."
"But but but, it's a SHELL. And it was in my TRUCK. Wake UP, sheeple!"
― this ukulele annoys fascists (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 29 June 2018 19:35 (seven years ago)
Priscilla Giddings is a stupid fucking troll.
I am going to show these rapey men my fake dick.
― Yerac, Friday, 29 June 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)
^ I'm going with that one.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 29 June 2018 19:43 (seven years ago)
brb gonna put a pic of nude Newt Gingrich in my Honda trunk, drive to a high school, and threaten to blow up the school with it.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 June 2018 19:43 (seven years ago)
If Nude Gingrich Is Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have Nude Gingrich
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 June 2018 19:46 (seven years ago)
Kinda figured this was obvious. Also, interesting story to have surface about now.
Publicly Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein stands by his role in Comey firing. In private it’s been a different story. W/@adamgoldmanNYT https://t.co/jt0amRcgWK— Michael S. Schmidt (@nytmike) June 29, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 June 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain),
speaking of, what would Don 'n' Ghost of Glenn say about these times?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 June 2018 19:56 (seven years ago)
gee I wonder how our new SC overlords will overturn this one
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/06/29/kentuckys-first-in-the-nation-requirement-that-medicaid-recipients-must-work-is-blocked/?utm_term=.2830a5fc3a56
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 June 2018 20:12 (seven years ago)
For anyone that believes Robert Mueller knows all, I just saw it reported that the feds were tipped off to the existence of Manafort's storage locker by a journalist.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 20:27 (seven years ago)
sort of - AP journos were asking Feds if they knew about Manafort's storage locker, which turned out to be the first time the Feds had heard of it.
first day of testimony in Manafort's trial, bound to be tons of stuff like this coming out
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 June 2018 20:28 (seven years ago)
I think that was pre-Mueller, too?
yeah, April 2017, about a month before Mueller's appointment
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 June 2018 20:30 (seven years ago)
Mueller's investigators work within a different set of rules than investigative journalists, so it's not surprising a journo could hear things they haven't heard. I'm happy to hear the journo shared notes with them.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 29 June 2018 20:51 (seven years ago)
that's not exactly what happened (as noted) but the real reason this is significant is because the House GOP has been accusing the FBI of leaking news of the locker (among other things) to AP - when it turns out something closer to the reverse happened.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 June 2018 20:57 (seven years ago)
SCOOP: As Trump fights w/ Merkel on defense spending, Pentagon staffers ordered to analyze the costs of a large-scale withdrawal of American troops from Germany. Word of the move is causing a nervous scramble at European embassies in DC https://t.co/FAjLdW1bLc— John Hudson (@John_Hudson) June 29, 2018
@PhilipRuckerTrump was taken aback to learn there were 35,000 U.S. troops in Germany and expressed interest to aides in removing them
― mookieproof, Friday, 29 June 2018 21:20 (seven years ago)
Yeah, can't Russia put some troops there instead?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 29 June 2018 21:24 (seven years ago)
Maybe we just put some troops in one half of Germany and Russia can put some in the other half. Teamwork!
― this ukulele annoys fascists (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 29 June 2018 21:25 (seven years ago)
i'm curious about how he finally learned this information
― mookieproof, Friday, 29 June 2018 21:26 (seven years ago)
why are we removing troops from germany and south korea but also increasing the defense budget by 150b
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 29 June 2018 21:29 (seven years ago)
to give money to Trump's buddies
― sleeve, Friday, 29 June 2018 21:29 (seven years ago)
to nuke Iran
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 June 2018 21:37 (seven years ago)
=|
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 29 June 2018 21:45 (seven years ago)
Cuz we make weapons and sell them?
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 29 June 2018 21:48 (seven years ago)
there are so many things that trump doesn't know about yet. it's gonna be a wild ride
― Karl Malone, Friday, 29 June 2018 22:05 (seven years ago)
there are so many things that trump doesn't know
― Karl Malone, Friday, June 29, 2018 6:05 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ftfy
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 29 June 2018 22:10 (seven years ago)
sadly, so true. oof.
is there ever a point where congress, republicans, or congress republicans will lift a finger against him? at this point i really do think he could just unilaterally pull the US from NATO while russia simultaneously moved forces in and they would do nothing. maybe when he announces our new military alliance with russia and declares that france and germany are now enemies of the united states? 50/50 odds that they'd do something in that scenario
― Karl Malone, Friday, 29 June 2018 22:14 (seven years ago)
nah
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 June 2018 22:21 (seven years ago)
they will never turn on him. they owe him for taking back the entire federal gov't, the tax cut, and now the supreme court - a debt he will never let them forget. they are supine and toothless.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 June 2018 22:22 (seven years ago)
"supine and toothless" = lesser-known Talking Heads b-side)
― this ukulele annoys fascists (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 30 June 2018 00:10 (seven years ago)
I was wondering earlier how it would have felt in 1913 or 1938 in a country outside of the main combatants of the next years. If the tensions of imminent explosion were visible from the sidelines.THough doesn't really seem to be a neutral point at the moment does there.JUst going to be glad that the repeal of the 8th amendment in Ireland happened before abortion in the US became any more in question.& the UK seems to be in the middle of a meltdown. I know not seems.& the BBC are still using Nigel Farrage as a go to guy for opinion on this mess. Though maybe that was Northern Irish BBC I was hearing yesterday and did seem to recognise his very blinkered view of things..
― Stevolende, Saturday, 30 June 2018 00:27 (seven years ago)
from allegra, who has some good talking points for when you get into it with your uncle or w/e:
"Even though at Santa Fe Dreamers Project we constantly bear witness to reprehensible ICE actions, I used to think the concept of #abolishICE was too radical. I think that even I, an immigration lawyer fighting detention and deportation, had internalized the criminalization of immigrants so deeply that I believed this agency, at least in part, should be funded and functioning. After thinking and reading a lot about it, I no longer think #abolishICE is radical. I think it is rational. Why on earth do we have a massive, out-of-control law enforcement agency policing something that is not a crime? That immigration isn't a crime is not my philosophy, it's the law. These are mostly civil/administrative violations ICE is policing, literally like violations of OSHA or the tax code. (Sometimes I fantasize if it wouldn't be easier if immigration were a crime and you could have free lawyers, due process, speedy trials, and consequences for fourth amendment violations-- you know, rights). So why do we just accept that we have the largest law enforcement force in the country policing civil violation and doling out insanely disproportionate penalties? Can you imagine if you were picked up at your home and ripped from your family and detained for months for an OSHA or minor tax violation? But our country truly believes that immigrants are so dangerous, by living and working here, that we need to pay this huge army of reckless officers to terrorize our communities and detain our neighbors. Look, I am all for law enforcement. But if anyone, including an immigrant, in my community commits a dangerous crime, we have criminal codes and state/local law enforcement to deal with it. In fact, from where I stand these days, it is ICE who is making my town and my state scarier and more dangerous and far more un-american than any of my immigrant neighbors. So I guess this is all too suggest, if #abolishICE seems too radical for you, I think it is worth taking some time and learning about it (ICE has only existed for 15 years, ICE doesn't really police the border but Customs and Border Protection (CBP) does, immigrant communities have a far lower crime rate than citizen communities, immigrants make our economy stronger, etc) and examining what assumptions you might be carrying around that make it seem radical. And if you let go of these assumptions, doesn't abolishing ICE seem like a rational and practical step to ending the abject suffering our government is inflicting on our neighbors?"
― gbx, Saturday, 30 June 2018 00:27 (seven years ago)
Stevolende:
I know that I shall meet my fate, Somewhere among the clouds above; Those that I fight I do not hate, Those that I guard I do not love
― this ukulele annoys fascists (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 30 June 2018 00:36 (seven years ago)
Re tax cuts as the thing that republicans will campaign on this year:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/29/not-what-we-expected-trumps-tax-bill-is-losing-popularity/That leaves immigration
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 30 June 2018 03:13 (seven years ago)
"maybe when he announces our new military alliance with russia and declares that france and germany are now enemies of the united states?"
I'm pretty slow but I'm coming around to thinking that this might really happen? not sure how that plays out wrt Iran, which is why I haven't fully come around on this happening yet
― droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 30 June 2018 09:32 (seven years ago)
gbx that is booming. i love the comparison to OSHA
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 30 June 2018 13:29 (seven years ago)
More “argument about ice with your centrist uncle” material
THREAD: Amid all of the calls to #abolishICE, I found myself asking, where did it come from? Why did we do it? Maybe we made a mistake. I was there and remember it thematically, but I wanted to remind myself. Maybe it will help others. 1/— Moira Whelan (@moira) June 30, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 30 June 2018 13:48 (seven years ago)
Hamilton Nolan gets phone calls from righties
https://splinternews.com/we-get-voicemails-1827231694
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 30 June 2018 14:22 (seven years ago)
Here in San Francisco -- and apparently across the bay in Alameda as well -- today's march was notably light on millenials. I wonder if this was broadly true.
― fajita seas, Saturday, 30 June 2018 20:30 (seven years ago)
Didn't check IDs, but lots of young people here.It was a good march, good to be around so many like-minded people, even if it was fucking hot. Got a sandwich at a Vietnamese place after. The woman saw my shirt and asked if I was marching. We talked a bit and she told me she came here as a refugee in 1976 (I think) because it was the greatest country in the world. Then she told me she was sponsoring the asylum claims of two people, one from Cuba, the other from Venezuela, and that it's hard work and time consuming but still worth fighting for. She thanked me for my support, and I've got to admit, it felt good.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 June 2018 20:37 (seven years ago)
At the Baltimore rally, I feel like the median age was hovering somewhere between 35-40.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 30 June 2018 20:38 (seven years ago)
lotta young folks in Eugene OR but yeah the median was probably closer to what Raymond saw, tons of pissed of elders with signs
― sleeve, Saturday, 30 June 2018 20:51 (seven years ago)
felt a tiny bit younger than that here. Maybe somewhere 25 to 35? 25-45?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 June 2018 20:51 (seven years ago)
https://splinternews.com/at-families-belong-together-marches-this-is-what-dem-1827262000
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 30 June 2018 20:52 (seven years ago)
It was fucking fantastic. Hot as heck, but the vibe was positive, lots of socializing and commiserating and hope.
Shout out to chill Antifa crew hoisting a huge banner and supplying free bottled water in an ice chest
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 30 June 2018 20:54 (seven years ago)
Went to the Queens March but was late due to baby nap. Hit it at the end where a small crowd was gathered in a park in Corona. Got to hear Ocasio-Cortez speak so at least I’ll be able to tell that to my grandchildren.
― dan selzer, Saturday, 30 June 2018 23:33 (seven years ago)
WASHINGTON — U.S. intelligence agencies believe that North Korea has increased its production of fuel for nuclear weapons at multiple secret sites in recent months — and that Kim Jong Un may try to hide those facilities as he seeks more concessions in nuclear talks with the Trump administration, U.S. officials told NBC News.The intelligence assessment, which has not previously been reported, seems to counter the sentiments expressed by President Donald Trump, who tweeted after his historic June 12 summit with Kim that "there was no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea."
The intelligence assessment, which has not previously been reported, seems to counter the sentiments expressed by President Donald Trump, who tweeted after his historic June 12 summit with Kim that "there was no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea."
this is unsurprising and still foreboding
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 1 July 2018 05:57 (seven years ago)
jesus
― cr.ht (crüt), Sunday, 1 July 2018 06:11 (seven years ago)
Enh
― Simon H., Sunday, 1 July 2018 06:22 (seven years ago)
Color me skeptical when it comes to US intelligence services and reporting on other countries' movements
― Simon H., Sunday, 1 July 2018 06:25 (seven years ago)
It’s in line with what pretty much every NK and arms proliferation expert predicted.
What a nutter. 1) Open-source information corroborates IC claims. 2) In 2017, the IC repeatedly leaked administration plans to launch preventive strikes on NK in order to prevent them--hardly a "war-hawk bureaucracy" move. 3) NK has not agreed to give up nukes https://t.co/tlKqyQJE2O— Van Jackson (@WonkVJ) June 30, 2018
The claims the intel community is making are reasonable, predictable--because the Kim summit was a rhetorical show, not a deal for denuclearization, and because North Korea has no theory of security without nukes. Of course North Korea's going do what it can to retain nukes— Van Jackson (@WonkVJ) June 30, 2018
Beware the claims of anyone who spends their time trying to discredit the work of Trump's enemies--you know, mainstream journalism and public servants— Van Jackson (@WonkVJ) June 30, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 1 July 2018 08:25 (seven years ago)
Simon, there's a fundamental difference compared to Iraq in that it goes against what the government is saying. Pet peeve but blaming the WMD lies on intelligence really lets Rumsfeld and Cheney etc off the hook.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 1 July 2018 08:26 (seven years ago)
Also, fuck Glenn Greenwald.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 1 July 2018 08:28 (seven years ago)
Still I’m in the weird place of rooting for Trump to just ignore it (and John Bolton and Lindsey Graham) completely instead of lashing out and acting betrayed.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 1 July 2018 08:29 (seven years ago)
yeah, otm
― Frederik B, Sunday, 1 July 2018 08:31 (seven years ago)
1 in 120 is displaced or asylum seeking. Christ
― Garden variety uncouth (Ross), Sunday, 1 July 2018 08:44 (seven years ago)
― Simon H., Sunday, July 1, 2018 2:25 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I mean I understand being skeptical but if there's any party for whom you should reserve even more skepticism than US intelligence services it's fucking North Korea
― cr.ht (crüt), Sunday, 1 July 2018 12:46 (seven years ago)
Whether it’s correct or not is almost immaterial. DPRK is under no obligation to stop its nuclear programme, aiui, just as the US is under no obligation to delay the opening of the $11bn base in Pyeongtaek or lift sanctions. The agreement reached, as far as I know, was for DPRK to halt test fires and the US to step back from military exercises deemed ‘provocative’ in the short term - with a pact to negotiate further de-escalation. That negotiation is likely to cover things like stopping work on some elements of the nuclear programme and declaring / opening up sites to international inspection in return for sanctions relief and other stuff, but that is all TBC.
Leaving Greenwald aside, the criticism I’ve seen of the leak / framing of the report from people like Tim Shorrock is the suspicion it has been put out there to make the second phase of discussion less likely - by framing DPRK as bad actors (which they are) and Trump as a rube (which he is), it is aiming to turn public opinion against the only viable route to an imperfect peace accord.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 July 2018 13:02 (seven years ago)
You've really got it backward if you think whether or not it's correct is immaterial, while free speculation as to the motives of the leaks is the real story.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 1 July 2018 13:09 (seven years ago)
Neither story is particularly huge - DPRK continues to do what they have always done pending further discussion, some sources who don’t like the proposed negotiations leak stuff to the press. It doesn’t have a gigantic bearing on the discussions either way.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 July 2018 13:15 (seven years ago)
No, you're right. But the story about DPRK continuing to work on their nuclear program is at least a story, since Trump lied about them doing so. And for some reason, there was a discussion in a lot of media I read whether or not he should be credited for that bluster. The intention behind the leaks is unknown, and is not even a story.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 1 July 2018 13:32 (seven years ago)
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 July 2018 13:34 (seven years ago)
we had a bit of confusion in Boston so some of us who intended to be trained for the civil disobedience action at South Bay Detention center ended up at a sign-making meeting instead. So ... it was arts-and-crafts activism for me this time!
The action itself went ok it seems. About twenty arrested ... all released by 3ish this morning. Onwards!
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Sunday, 1 July 2018 14:58 (seven years ago)
so there was kind of a 'riot' in Portland
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2018/06/portland_police_revoke_permit.htm
also, eff Frederik
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 1 July 2018 15:10 (seven years ago)
got a 404 on that link?
"riot" = fascists beating protestors with flagpoles
― sleeve, Sunday, 1 July 2018 15:13 (seven years ago)
sorry
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2018/06/portland_police_revoke_permit.html
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 1 July 2018 15:21 (seven years ago)
paintballs filled with pepper spray? That's a new one to me. I admire your creativity, Portland Police.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 1 July 2018 16:06 (seven years ago)
i know this isn't surprising at this point, but it's still startling to see them side-by-side
He didn’t even bother to delete the old one pic.twitter.com/A47TuOFfNS— Ryan Lizza (@RyanLizza) June 30, 2018
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 1 July 2018 16:43 (seven years ago)
It’s not though! It’s not remotely startling, covfefe. Can we make the July thread into less of a mess of dumbfoundedness at the “world burning down?” Duh, of course it is. To the extent our systems allow it to. Also if you talk about trump winning re-election please punch yourself in the genitalia Where are the 1987 Korea style protests demanding direct popular elections?
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:00 (seven years ago)
wrt anyone using Iraq as a frame of reference for “this is the deep state trying to undermine the president’s peace plan” theories
Brief, remedial class on the drive to war in Iraq: The invasion was pushed by political appointees in the Bush admin who manipulated raw intelligence, previously discounted by analysts, and created a whole new intelligence office to out-hawk what they viewed as a "liberal" CIA.— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) July 1, 2018
"The agency, called the Office of Special Plans (OSP), was set up by the defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, to second-guess CIA information." https://t.co/HyZgVjygqH— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) July 1, 2018
Meanwhile, as McClatchy reported in 2002, anonymous "U.S. intelligence officials said evidence actually suggested that Saddam had been careful to keep al Qaida at arms' length to avoid giving Bush an excuse to invade Iraq." https://t.co/kS34X66Lfy— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) July 1, 2018
But some people believed the White House, seeing the CIA as a den of liberals determined to undermine an elected president's foreign policy.— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) July 1, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:02 (seven years ago)
If the IC had been as bad and deceitful as Greenwald/Simon says, that Colin Powell presentation would have been a lot more impressive.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:25 (seven years ago)
I wasn't trying to make a direct Iraq parallel fwiw - my distrust of / wariness towards US intelligence services is more general.
― Simon H., Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:53 (seven years ago)
We can tell. Your aptitude as a generalist is undisputed
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:55 (seven years ago)
Do we have a July thread?
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 1 July 2018 19:32 (seven years ago)
generalists are always pushing for wariness
― Evan, Sunday, 1 July 2018 19:35 (seven years ago)
is there no july thread because no one can decide on a title
― maura, Sunday, 1 July 2018 21:48 (seven years ago)
“Goodlatte 2: DPRK Nuke-a-Dupe”
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:07 (seven years ago)
US Politics July 2018: Let's Eat Grandma
― a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:21 (seven years ago)
Among contenders upthread were "womp womp", "We Got Space Force" and "I REALLY DON'T CARE. DO U?" of which the latter is the most nihilistically apposite.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:35 (seven years ago)
i really don't careforce 1
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:57 (seven years ago)
I'm down with the third option MatthewK presented
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:58 (seven years ago)
Shall I
Option 3 for sure.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 1 July 2018 23:13 (seven years ago)
marches lighter on millenials are marches heavier on voters, and so a good thing.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 2 July 2018 10:43 (seven years ago)
The new name has always been a surprise.
Just sayin.
― Mark G, Monday, 2 July 2018 10:48 (seven years ago)
US Politics, July 2018: FART
Surprise!!
― Mark G, Monday, 2 July 2018 10:49 (seven years ago)