Liverpool have 2nd sewn up - EPL 2018/19

Adios Fernando Hierro.

HE'S READY:

Ashley Williams, Kevin Mirallas, Cuco Martina and Nikola Vlasic have been told to train away from Everton’s first team squad by Marco Silva.

— paul joyce (@_pauljoyce) August 2, 2018

Classic AVB move here from Silva. This will end well.

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THEY'RE READY

E'S NOT READY

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HE'S READY

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HE'S READY FOR SOMETHING ELSE

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HE'S READY

xps Haven't Stoke signed Ashley Williams?

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/27/21/0CC818B300000514-0-Fulham_s_lengthy_managerial_hunt_has_come_to_an_end_after_Slavis-a-11_1451251739315.jpg

HE MIGHT BE READY, FRANKLY NO ONE IS QUITE SURE

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HE'S TAKING A KNEE

fuck me, didn't realise that old football hooligan Ronnie Jepson was at Cardiff with Warnock. I once saw him making an absolute pissed up prick out himself on a train and would say he is a deeply unpleasant and violent idiot to say the least. Welcome to the Prem lads!

im over this season already tbh

Shouldn't the EPL be mentioned somewhere in the title? Or has the EPL just swallowed football whole? (Silly question)

I can't believe Cardiff are starting a Premier campaign with Lee Peltier at RB and Danny Ward amongst the forwards, no wonder Warnock will gone by October.

Warnock is one of these managers where the same backroom and same garbage players follow him about from club to club like a bad smell. Yeah he's had loads of promotions and I used to love him when I was a kid (early 20's tbf!), but it is probably a good thing that his crude methods are just not good enough for the Prem.

Literally everything about Cardiff is unpleasant and I hope they go straight back down with the lowest point score in history.

Lots of chatter about Spurs bidding £30m for Lewis Cook, who is exactly the sort of player we could do with and one I can see really improving under Poch.

Also Chelsea chasing Grealish too now apparently

Kid's had his head turned by JT

Poor RLC.

with winks seeming to be quite a similar player would it possible be a case of too many cooks

I am literally threadbanning you for that.

test

wouldve been deserved cant lie

Ahmed Musa is off to KSA, apparently. 25's p young to go there, though I can't recall a KSA team paying this much for a player.

Shouldn't the EPL be mentioned somewhere in the title? Or has the EPL just swallowed football whole? (Silly question)

Also, why is it on ILE and not on ILF?

was always an ile thread

Too big for ILF.

I've never wanted Aberdeen to win a football match more:

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/01/football/brexit-burnley-back-in-europe-spt-intl/index.html

As a Dons fan I know posted the other day, when Burnley qualified for Europe all they had was a dream and 120 million quid.

about time the ILX Dyche backlash gathered pace, the guys a fucking degenerate!

and don't get me started on the good people of Burnley!

I put EPL in the thread title, in case people get confused and think we mean the Liverpool that play in Scotland or Abu Dhabi.

can’t believe kane’s golden boot hasn’t earned him a move to a big club

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_F.C._(Montevideo)

people might want to use the search function to find the EPL thread!

Burnley - Aberdeen into extra time

Game over, stupid fucking handball penalty.

Joe Hart + Ben Gibson look done deals to Burnley. Both of them passing Dyche's stringent criteria for what makes a solid Burnley signing.

we've now beaten 3 decent top tier Euro sides(Lyon,Bolagna,RB Liepzig) 3-1, 2-1, and finally 3-0 just now. We're ready!

Adama Traore signing for us this morning. Domagoj Vida signing for...somebody?...this week. Love this jigsaw we're building.

Middlesborough seem to be having a very FFP friendly window, probably watching the QPR situation. I expect us to be linked with Caveleiro .. again, when this is confirmed.

That seems 50/50. I don't think we *need* to move Cav on but obviously the speculation won't go away. My guess is - not this window. But we'll see, there's no sentiment in our transfer policy now.

i think if our Limbombe deal truly is dead, and he 's off to the Geordies, then there will be another attempt to sign Cav.

so then

1. Citeh
2. ManU
3. Pool
4. TBC, not Chelsea

18. Newcastle
19. Brighton
20. Cardiff

1. City
2. Liverpool
3. Chelsea
4. Utd
5. Arsenal

17. Tottenham
18. Cardiff
19. Southampton
20. Crystal Palace

:)

net spend an all that

1. City
2. Pool
3. Spurs
4. Arse
5. Chelsea
6. ManU
7. Portugal Wanderers
8. Everton

Breaking | Manchester United have turned down a €50m + Yerry Mina & André Gomes offer for Paul Pogba from Barcelona, according to @DiMarzio.

— Get French Football News (@GFFN) August 6, 2018

lol

so Mina *is* available

1. Liverpool FC as hot as hell
2. United
3. Tottenham
4. Arsenal
5. Watch my lips and I will spell
6. Cos they don't just play but they can rap as well

20. Crystal Palace

Gonna start FPing people predicting Palace to go down

whats yr predictions

1. City
2. Pool
3. Spurs
4. Arse
5. Chelsea
6. ManU
7. Portugal Wanderers
8. Everton

I like this though there's no way Everton are finishing 8th.

1. City
2. Liverpool
3. Man united
4. Spurs
5. Chelsea
6. Portugal
7. Arsenal
8. Everton
9. Leicester
10. West Ham
11. Bournemouth
12. Burnley
13. Fulham
14. Palace
15. West Ham
16. Southampton
17. Watford
18. Cardiff
19. Huddersfield
20. Brighton

do you guys know something abt brighton I don't?

Brighton won't finish rock bottom, and probably have a realistic chance of finishing above Watford + Southampton for starters!

we are bidding £13.5m for Montpellier's Issac Mbenza. The consensus from their messageboard seems to be: talented, but those English clubs, they crazy! But saying that 10 goals playing on the right last season in Ligue 1 is at least very impressive on paper.

and like with Wagner, Hughton won't be sacked when the going get's tough, which can go either way, but clubs changing managers mid-season aren't always lucky enough to get that Mark Hughes bounce!

just felt they looked a bit lightweight and vulnerable to a second season slump tbh. beyond Cardiff it's a lot harder to pick 3 to go down

At some point Rafa's patience will run out and then Newcastle are gone

I guess when I say "at some point" I mean when Ashley declines to cough up again in January

yeah i fancy them for a relegation season

i wonder if Ashley has fantasies about treating the staff of his football team the way he treats the rest of his employees?

he probably has a stipulation that the manager's contract is null and void if they drop dead in the workplace!

it seems Newcastle have made 30m in this transfer window and are still sniffing around for freebies, they had a huge wage bill in that promotion season(running at a £90m loss + easily treble of Hudds+Brighton combined). Getting Kennedy on loan again was a good move tho, but they look a bit weaker on paper now. I'm plumping for Geordies, Watford + Southampton for bottom 3 this year.

hey even if Cardiff get a good manager in by October they will still have that squad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFM-vAcRK_c

looks p ready to me

I totally forgot about Cardiff, they are already preparing for the 21/22 season in league 1!

brighton had the best defence in the bottom half of the prem last season, they were just unable to score any goals. glenn murray only managed about 12, all the rest of their strikers were fairly useless. they've got rid of baldock this summer and signed a few interesting-looking attacking players, though they're all unproven at prem level. there's also the hope that locadia will refind the form he had at psv. certain to be the kiss of death, but i think they'll stay up

hart's gone to burnley

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Buying Joe Hart that's really going to improve a side who not only couldn't beat Aberdeen over 180 minutes but were outplayed for much of the time.

Alex Smithies would have been a much better option if the transfer criteria is basically: truss no foreigns!

traore to wolves too

yeah, just want another centre half now i think

It's going to be both a bit awkward and really funny when everyone at Burnley realises that Joe Hart is the worst of the three keepers they have at their disposal.

Also, Arsenal, blimey.

1. Liverpool
2. City
3. Spurs
4. Man u
5. Arsenal
6. Chelsea
7. Wolves
8. West ham
9. Everton
10. Leicester
11. Fulham
12. Palace (if they keep wilf)
13. Burnley
14. Brighton
15. Southampton
16. Watford
17. Huddersfield
18. Bournemouth
19. Newcastle
20. Cardiff

Only really confident about the top 2 and bottom 2

#thisyearisouryear

Pessimism hasnt got me anywhere

lads

its tottenham

and 90% sure to sell alderweireld

Why do some people think City won't be champions? Liverpool seem stronger but I can't see them as a serious title contender. City can afford to be complacent or sloppy and still run away with it imo.

i'm going with "wishful thinking"

deep dive into posters in q to determine whether theyve ever *under*estimated lfc performance

im sure it happened once for me

but im an optimistic guy in general

1. Huddersfield (if they keep VLP)
2. City
3. Spurs
4. Brighton
5. Arsenal
6. Chelsea
7. Wolves
8. West ham
9. Everton
10. Leicester
11. Fulham
12. Palace (if they keep wilf)
13. Burnley
14. Brighton
15. Southampton
16. Watford
17. Liverpool
18. Man u
19. Newcastle
20. Cardiff

smoking crack cocaine is fun!

I know we're all assuming Leicester will finish somewhere blandly midtable but without Mahrez and possibly Maguire IDK they could be looking at a relegation battle here.

Mahrez is massive loss to them and was almost the difference alone between us getting something/getting absolutely battered, at their place last season.

Multi x posts but I'm going with the difficulty of retaining the trophy theory. It's not *that* outlandish to suggest the clear bookies second favourites having strengthened significantly in pretty much all key areas might have a shot of wrestling the title away from the mighty City

That and wishful thinking

Maddison looks a reasonable acquisition for Leicester but sure a relegation battle is possible and I don't see them finishing higher than 10th

LFC title talk not so outlandish. I'm all for teams overturning 25-26pt deficits from the previous season. EFC to edge LFC to 5th, then.

calz lay off that pipe man

im telling u no way spurs get third

Chelsea, arsenal and Man U all potential shitshows this season, in which case it's yours by default. Maybe one of them will pull it together but not looking great for any of them right now

my expectations for Man U largely revolve around them having a new manager by January

agree Chelsea will do poorly, Arsenal is an interesting situation waiting to reveal the form that its lulz will take

Liverpool unluckiest Premier League team & Manchester United luckiest, says study

However, the study found Huddersfield should have been relegated instead of Stoke when 'incorrect' refereeing decisions were taken into account.

:D

Sarri's plan appears to involve playing David Luiz in a 442 with the fullbacks not pushing too far up the pitch, which sounds like the absolute worst way to get the best out of the resources available.

xp
just like how some of our players can barely even control a ball at times, sometimes destiny is just as intractable;p

i think chelsea could be on for a good season tbh if (and it's a huge if) the fans / roman show a little patience. sarri knows what he's about.

kante / jorginho is as good a midfield base as any in the world, hazard is still hazard, there is a fair scattering of talent throughout the rest of the squad and they're apparently about to splurge on a couple of big new signings (kepa on his way in as a courtois replacement tonight im reading)

batshuayi is a weird one, apparently he's likely to go out on loan but it was only a few weeks ago that sarri was saying he's in line for a shot with the first team. wouldve thought after his form for dortmund he'd have earned his shot as the returning prodigal who's "like a new signing for us"

building the defence around david luiz looks like risky business though, yes

Generally Liverpool hype and optimism pre-season would be an obvious recipe for disaster and disappointment but with Klopp I'm not so sure. City for the title obviously.

Chelsea will do alright but I suspect it will take a while for Sarri to make his presence felt

Giroud/Morata are both problematic

I was very wary of this earlier because of the money involved but Chelsea have agreed to pay a world record £71m to sign goalkeeper Kepa Arrizabalaga. Full story on @TeleFootball #cfc

— Matt Law (@Matt_Law_DT) August 7, 2018

Well that'll take a little bit of pressure of Alisson, if nothing else

pressure *off* Alisson, obvs.

Highly recommended watching the clip where Pep tells Carragher and Gary Neville that he'd "never forgive them" for not winning a trophy with England's golden generation. And then calls Gary 'Phil' to compound the matter.

"Shaqiri is not as supremely talented as Coutinho was but he possesses the same invention and guile as the Brazilian. With the forward trio of Mo, Mane & Bobby, a reborn Sturridge, Shaqiri's invention and the ever industrious midfielders, Liverpool are frightening"- #bbcfootball

— Esther Agbarakwe (@estherclimate) August 7, 2018

Liverpool fans getting excited about Shaqiri. Sturridge on fire in pre-season. That's Liverpool probably fucked then!

My gut says Liverpool are going to be decimated by injuries and not have a particularly good season.

all it'll take is one to VVD tbh

i'm sure athletic club will have plenty of other gk options if kepa goes :/

lol when aduriz finally retires theyre gonna have no keepers or strikers of la liga quality

p sure aduriz will never retire tbh

Herrerín's not too bad iirc.

http://e1.365dm.com/18/08/16-9/20/skysports-premier-predictor_4383576.jpg?20180808080626

The stats-based Sky Sports Predictor outed as bitter Leeds Utd fan-bot.

From what I can tell Kepa pretty much kept Bilbao in La Liga last season so they're right to extract such a ridiculous fee from Chelsea.

#thfc first bid for Jack Grealish was £3M plus Joshua Onomah. [Daily Mirror]

— Hotspur Related (@HotspurRelated) August 8, 2018

villa have told spurs to shove it according to sky

tbh

sounds about right

that Sky predictor some kind of fake?

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/11465325/tottenham-finish-as-runners-up-ahead-of-liverpool-manchester-united

nope

lol always thought the football media had something against us

If Cardiff finish above Town then we'll surely deserve to go down, but so not happening Uncle Neil!

Is there any chance that Wolves could just QPR this?

Anything is possible. I'll take a bet with anybody who thinks we'll go down tho.

"Spurs to make big money deadline day bid for Ryan Sessegnon..."

they'd probably be wise to not fuck this one up as well, by offering derisory bids with dud player swap options so close to the deadline. And especially when dealing with a super rich club under no pressure to sell.

Wolves are closing in on a deal to sign Belgium international Leander Dendoncker, according to Sky sources.

The Anderlecht midfielder is travelling to England to discuss personal terms and undergo a medical.

Looks like suddenly Dendoncker's back on? If this does go south it'll be an order of magnitude beyond QPR

Lol just got here same time

sessegnon, grealish, id take that but seems unlikely.

rose and alderweireld out, youd need to raise 100m and replace with a good centre half, doable but again seems a lot at this stage

not much point finishing top four against the odds every season to then refuse the platform tho

Thrilled and terrified at what we're spending. Unifying link is this is a young squad bar Moutinho

Dendoncker makes me wonder if Nuno's gonna persist with Saiss as a centre half tho. By all accounts not his favoured position, and nobody thought he looked comfortable there on Saturday.

glad we've managed to palm off Malone to the Lampard Project. Jesus, we spent 6m on him just because he give us the runaround in 2 champo league games - always the most dud criteria for a signing. He looked like Jim had fixed it for him in the prem.

city have signed another attacking midfielder for some reason, 19yo arzani, who looked decent in the wc.

floggin the ukranian lad to wolves?

looks like kovacic to Chelsea

hard to get excited about us signing jermaine defoe again tbh

Are Spurs fans generally as 'it's ok if we sign noone shrug' like you are?

eh they'll get rojo or smalling as a makeweight for anderweireld

this is apparently true

xp im not happy but at the same time idk.

we are as likely to sign shite as not, we are actually better off without aurier or sissoko and thats 55m, and probably more like 75m if bought today. fuck that.

if pochs ok im ok

if hes not then levy has fucked up hugely

but, if poch has forgotten how to make squad and youth players better, thats a strange turn of events too

Kovacic to Chelsea is already official

damn quick work

He went as part of the Courtois deal

It's only a season-long loan. No option to buy

wait theres a courtois deal now

poch out

So no players either in or out today?

jose: The information I have is no.

out of all the big dogs I wish we were playing Man U first game rather than Chelsea

The absolute best we could hope for at this point is another CB anyway

Not exactly going to get pulses racing

he'll get what he wants

and if not, not getting what he wants is a close second in terms of his preferred MO these days

Manchester United are chasing a deal for Atletico Madrid defender Diego Godin, Sky Sports News understands.

probably bullshit but omfg do it do it do it

totes awks for toby if that happens

Godin's only got one year left on his contract and is 32. I for one would welcome him marshalling the ManU defense.

BREAKING NEWS

Tottenham will not be making a further bid today for Aston Villa midfielder Jack Grealish, Sky Sports News understands.

BREAKING NEWS

Everton officials are in Barcelona trying to finalise a deal for Barcelona defender Yerry Mina, Sky Sports News understands - with the player having a medical in the Spanish city to save time.

fuck you Zinchenko i hope you never play again

That's a real shame. He's uttered he thinks he's got a chance at cracking the 11 at City but I doubt it. He could've been good for youse.

fuck the little wanker

"Can you play centre back?" pic.twitter.com/dr09kG9bed

— Jonny Sharples (@JonnyGabriel) August 9, 2018

corden has been a better manager recently

there's no place for praise of that cunt on this board, ironic or not

youll get me in training for that breach of unspoken rules

Dendoncker deal done

The Godin thing appears to have been a ruse by his agent to negotiate a better contract with Atleti. Bugger.

ooof thats not any way to treat a club with utds history and market capitalisation

i'm not even sure Dendoncker's's 1st team, this window has been awesome

So not only will Spurs be the only team in the top 5 European leagues not to sign anyone, we're also on course to be the first PL club ever to not sign anyone in the Summer transfer window since it was introduced in 2003

#newwayofworking

On the plus side I don't think we're going to let anyone go.

on the neutral side tbh

the plus side would be the twin temptations of sissoko and aurier out

fuck, everton have been busy today

andre gomes, yerry mina, bernard all anounced in the last 15 minutes

no united news apart from tim fm going to fulham for the season ;_;

Fuck we've got Evertong on Saturday

Zouma as well, blimey.

what does an everton starting 11 look like now?

what they can still only start xi? oops

think they just might survive rooney leaving

Everton Wolves is just going to be 22 complete strangers on the pitch wondering wtf they're supposed to be doing.

loool

Pretty sure about 7 of our starting line will be last season's squad

Seems like we've rather panicked after the defeats by Blackburn, Rennes, Valencia and Cammell Laird U17s but better this than sacking Silva.

Any news on whether Burnley are going to get the signing of Tommy Robinson over the line? #DeadlineDay

— RTB (@RichardTheBurns) August 9, 2018

I hope I haven't just unmasked Calzino here.

10 out of 10

lool! Ain't it the truth!

Although a loan initially, LFC set to get £20m when Danny Ings deal becomes permanent next summer. £18m with extra £2m bonuses. Also secured 20 per cent of any future sale.

— Chris Bascombe (@_ChrisBascombe) August 9, 2018

how do Liverpool pull off this kind of shit?

Revised prediction

18 Newcastle
19 Southampton
20 Cardiff

lol that's £32 m from the Ward and Ings sales in this window, one pretty duff goalkeeper and a so so championship striker. Liverpool will be exporting "Premium Quality" sand to Saudi Arabia next.

xp Would expect Palace to be in the mix now Jordan Ayew's joined them

board to Jose: drop dead

Jose Mourinho was told by Manchester United that the club would only sign a world-class defender of the calibre of Real Madrid’s World Cup winner Raphael Varane rather than compromise with a lesser light, despite the manager’s demands otherwise.

United would have paid £100 million for Varane but the World Cup winner was never available and as the options were put to them over the course of a transfer window there were too many good reasons to ignore them. It means they go into their first game against Leicester City at Old Trafford on Friday night without signing the centre-back Mourinho has asked for during pre-season.

The club believe they have delivered over the course of the last two windows on the agreed targets with around £73 million invested this window in Fred, Diogo Dalot and goalkeeper Lee Grant, as well as the £35 million cash committed for the fee for Alexis Sanchez in January.

It was around five hours before the deadline that United were linked with Atletico Madrid’s veteran Diego Godin, the club cited as having made an approach for the Uruguayan. In reality an intermediary had contacted United a few days earlier asking whether they would be interested in Godin. United said they were happy to be kept informed. The next and final conversation was the intermediary telling United that Godin has signed a new contract.

Yerry Mina was offered by Barcelona to United and a number of other clubs before the World Cup finals for €11m in an attempt by the Spanish champions to get their money back on a player they signed in January. Post-World Cup finals it was not the price being quoted for Mina but the structure of the agents’ fees being proposed that made the club uncomfortable. United felt paying them would set a damaging precedent set that could prove a problem in the future.

Mina was regarded by United as very far off the level that they wanted in a centre-back – and certainly not in the category of Varane. The Colombian’s standout performances at the World Cup finals, including England, marked him out as a specialist player, one for certain opponents whose threat would come in the air, but there were concerns about his all-round game.

The offer of signing Jerome Boateng, the 29-year-old Bayern Munich defender, was the easiest to reject. By United’s calculations he had simply missed too much football through injury over the last three years – playing no more than 19 league games in each season. United are wary of buying from Munich since their expensive misadventure with Bastian Schweinsteiger. To a lesser extent they feel that Owen Hargreaves also came to them in 2007 with the basis of what would become effectively a career-ending injury.

Harry Maguire was a genuine target although no progress was ever made with Leicester, and while it has proved impossible to change minds the softening of the club’s stance over time with Riyad Mahrez has given United some encouragement that it could be a long-term project. There was no offer made at any point for Toby Alderweireld at Tottenham Hotspur, another one whom United felt that in the long-term would not materially improve their five centre-back options.

How Mourinho reacts from now will be dictated to some extent by results but the key objectives at the turn of the year have all been fulfilled as far as the club are concerned. The signing of Fred from Shakhtar Donetsk to give energy to the midfield, was a long-term project with serious negotiations starting in Kiev in February. Signing Sanchez when he became available was another. Mourinho wanted a third-choice homegrown eligible goalkeeper –Grant was signed. The United manager also wanted Marouane Fellaini re-signed on a new contract.

The centre-back discussion has only become an issue this summer, and the club have felt that the options open to them have not warranted the investment they would have required.

xp feels like the club is just taunting imago now, signing a relegation jonah like ayew

alderweireld absolutley improves utd or am i just wearing my spurs shades

it's certainly a provocative assessment of their current backline from Man U

i think the long-term bit is key, from what i'm reading there's a boardroom concern that jose just wants to splurge on short term fixes that won't leave united any better off when he inevitably storms off in a huff. not sure how many good years tobes has in front of him though - surely he'd be dece for at least another 3 years or so?

Saying 'only of the calibre of Varane' is ludicrous when £100m could get you CB comfortably better than Jones or Smalling plus at least one fullback (and they really need those).

Obviously Alderweireld improves us, but paying over 50m for a a 29-year old that's available for half that amount that in a season's time doesn't make much sense

Jose's bought two CBs for a total of 70m-ish over the last two seasons. I can see why Woodward was reluctant to splash out on another

The left-back situation is bizarre though. We were never even credibly linked with one

Toby would cost you 50m and 7.5m per year on salary = 75m for a 4 year contract, with hardly any resale value. Ie. madness.

Blind could've stayed as LB and we'd still be better off than we're now.

big season for luke shaw tbh and i'm keen to see dalot in action

we're gonna win the league

uh

think youll find its already sewn up there buck

wait is this an actual live free epl game on sky 1

jesus this is horrible

Typical United

lump lump lump

puke football

mout

bullshit. It hasn't been good, but it's not long ball

Maddison playing well

theres a three match ban for fred anyway

It's the first game man. Leave something in the tank

fri night i have no idea how to pace for this

bad offside calls itg

ref having a laugh if thats not at keast yellow

This game is dire.

Sanchez continues to confound

Woeful. So much for that pre season form

shouldve been a pen

You mean stepping in front of a guy and pushing him over your leg isn’t a fair tackle?

depends on shirt obv but usually not

horrible visions of leicester equalising followed by the season's first sighting of fellaini

that was wonderful from Bailly

real football

fucking cack though this innit

did rom really just miss that?

ref held them at bay and united hit em on counter

plan

holy shit luke shaw

haha that first touch

wait that's the first goal he's scored ever ever?

and now he's joint first golden boot

fuck off harry kane

that was...fine. Which is more than I was expecting tbh

Bailly and Pogba were good, Pereira and Fred encouraging

front three was brutal though

That was so weird that I feel robbed of the opportunity to celebrate our first goal of the season.

Terrible defending.

poch still hasnt learned to voach centre halves man marking i see

Oh but I'm feeling all the anger of our first concession. This is all wrong.

Dunno what's more embarrassing, the goal or Poch's Spurs school blazer badge.

Fabulous cross tbfttl

ehat a ball

This might be the season when we realise why we signed Aurier.

...lol

when *we* do it its great attacking obv

aurier back ever since tbf

Crazy defending on both sides.

defending is jut shocking

Kane's inability to clear the ball is getting really annoying.

Genuinely can't see Newcastle not scoring, even if accidentally.

yes

general play gone very sloppy even tho overall a good performance

Jesus christ.

this is actually jol days defending

the centre halves just not even pretending to concentrate

The state of Cardiff's first XI underlines what a miracle worker Warnock has been. I'm not sure the last team that started a PL season that looked worse on paper.

Time to stick a tenner on Paterson scoring. Love that he's achieved his dream of playing in the Premier League.

Dunno if Colin's a miracle worker or if it's easier to bully Champo officials

either way he'll be fine in this league so

gone by november [/wycleff]

Commentators talking shit, definitely a red

Yea it was a red, glad that wolves got an equaliser, they deserved it

Donkey tackle, great free kick, going OK so far. We look nervy as fuck so

all things considered that was ok

Naby Keita tho

Liverpool look terrifying, Keita has been brilliant so far.

West Ham seem to have decided not to play a midfield tbf

Based on this first half an hour I've seen absolutely nothing to suggest that Liverpool can compete for the title.

Absolutely nothing whatsoever

they've got the linesmen, um, onside already

Feel like Liverpool have missed a real opportunity not to just write 'CAPTAIN' across Milner's headband. It'll probably ruin their entire afternoon when they realise that.

Emery out.

City's three subs today have been Sane, Kevin de Bruyne and Gabriel Jesus.

Lolz.

Beeb p much otm

TWP done good

Insane sequence from Wayne Rooney to save a goal and then assist on one pic.twitter.com/AdcL8CjBJO

— Born Salty (@cjzero) August 13, 2018

Good right back play there

Not so sure about having the keeper up for the corner when you're not even behind.

loooool NV

there it is

levy out

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what "critical safety systems" means?

shit, I can't believe they used Pimlico Plumbers on such a big job!

sissoko in front of back 4

Find someone who looks at you the way Florent Hadergjonaj looks at Eden Hazard pic.twitter.com/TCTVVXlFW7

— Cobham Blues (@cobhamblues) August 11, 2018

can't really blame Hadj, when Hazard came on it was like watching a 5d chess master doing a demonstration to tiddlywinks players.

de bruyne out for three months, potentially

They don't play anyone you wouldn't expect them to beat (Liverpool) til the 6th of October

And City's players tend to come back sooner than expected anyway

we've already established foden is ready

TWP at it again (although the keeper could probably have done better)

.@WAYNEROONEY WITH A BEAUTY! 😍 #DCvPOR https://t.co/5nyftQ74ZZ

— Major League Soccer (@MLS) August 16, 2018

rank

couldn't have hit that better for the goalie lol

I'd have saved that ffs

It is easy when everything is good to be there, but when the winter is coming it’s easy to run away. I want to be there on the front line, fighting and trying to win.

“I feel the responsibility to be here and that is why I am. And then because I am happy and I think Tottenham gave us, all the staff, a lot of things that always we will be grateful for. It was a moment to say ‘we are going to be with you all, fighting in the circumstances’ because we knew what was going to happen.”

Asked whether the failure to add to his squad, together with the uncertainty over when the cub will move into the new stadium and the fact so many of his players were away at the World Cup, makes this season the hardest of Pochettino’s time at Tottenham, he replied: “I think yes.

“For everything, for me it will be the toughest season and I think if we want success we have to give more than our best. It’s not enough 100 per cent, it’s 200 per cent. We know from inside that it will be hard, the season, and because we are warriors we want to fight.

“We want to be proud at the end, we want success and we do not want to complain or make excuses. I am a winner and I love the challenge, so that is why I feel full of energy. We want to go again.”

fucking hell my ovaries

not for me to contrast with any other top 6 manager but can u imagine jose in this situation can u

well no, Jose actually wins trophies

may his reign last for 1000 years

KDB out for three months.

City say De Bruyne, 27, has a lateral collateral ligament lesion in his right knee, but does not need surgery.

'Lateral collateral ligament lesion' was Tool's 'New Yersey' iirc

well,... actually..

― Number None, Friday, 17 August 2018 11:17 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

😏

Watched the first episode of the Amazon City documentary. It's essentially a Pep hagiography, and the fact that season went so well for them makes it inherently less interesting, but the level of access is impressive

0 - Kenedy failed to complete a single pass in the first half against Cardiff City - he is the first outfield Premier League player to fail to complete a single pass in 45+ minutes of play since Nikola Kalinic against Birmingham City in March 2010. Passenger. pic.twitter.com/6EZbhRNI9B

— OptaJoe (@OptaJoe) August 18, 2018

huh

he was probably their best player in the last game

Update: he just completed a pass! Straight red for Hayden.
.

Kennedy caps off a completely shit performance with a lame str8 down the middle pen with the last kick of the game!

lol

Perfect end to a perfect match

I'm at Wembley and I'm excited about seeing Shop Window Toby.

some really good stuff

Alli less than useless

kane is completely unfit but actually pulling off those rooneyballs

if not for lloris we'd be behind

refs a cunt

miss of season from lucas and he *might* have gotten into trouble for that tackle on the goalie but lovely goal

poch out

what an og in the leiceter game

that red incident in the Newcastle cardiff game was a p intense two seconds of violence

happy to predict that lucas gets eriksen/alli/son levels of goals this season

and dier is responsible for as many combined

piss easy

so so easy to beat us with any cross

poch out

jesus our defending is *awful*

trips u beauty lamela u beauty kane u beauty

Trippier can do this regularly, apparently? It’s an amazing talent to have seemingly developed recently.

anyone that can hit a deep cross first time can hit a fk imo

maybe he needed the chance for england to even get near the ball for spurs tbf

I think Wolves have so far spent more time playing against ten men than eleven and have still somehow failed to win.

"are you Wenger in disguise" didn't last long!

id like to rescind the lucas miss as a contender for miss of the season, or indeed day

who's usurped him

arsenal and chelsea

unbelievable string of spooned sitters

lol right?

I mean commentator hyperbole can fuck off but sitters were missed

jesus it didnt stop.

dont think i ever saw a display of shocking finishing like it

Sarri in a T-shirt is adorable

I was watching this game live - pissed, admittedly - and didn't notice but Kante seems to have got forward a lot?

yeah was the same last week

As yet I still can't hear the name Sarri without automatically thinking of the Sarry Heid...

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5f/6b/65/5f6b6575f58824a9daa001e74450491b.jpg

watch this one, it was fun

im really uneasy about that moura tackle on gk tbph wouldnt complain about a red

Should've booked Kane for that tumble

fuck off

Oooh goal

No wonder you'm always slating your defence

told ya

woah this kid brooks looks abt 13

Think that's just a shit haircut

Callum Wilson continues to fuck with my theory that he's actually rubbish

God I've gotta listen to fucking Lineker gloating in a minute

no hes endorsing my theory that english defences are shit if you test em

That was dogshit defending tru

over-hype an Ings tap in much?

loooooooool Walcott

phew cos his goal and assist hadcme questioning meself

ouch

A reassuring return to the norm, yeah

Shit I forgot Hughes was still there. Danny Ings must have a close relative in the MotD staff

never not loving the killybegs sinus out of coleman

hughes is a minge

Silva is my fave Prem manager who doesn't manage us

me too

tho jokanovic has fulham playing nice stuff too

So what team will Brendan Rodgers be managing by Christmas? West Ham, maybe.

Is it me or is Lineker green screening this interview v obviously?

thats just a verification test for you to continue watching

That Everton squad has a lot of players I like too. Also Walcott, but hey.

Wrighty you thick twat

I knew Doc had scored but that was a screamer

Two jammy goals ffs

yeah

tasty tackles in all these highlights

cunt

Blatant rec

horrible piece of shit tackle

the fuck is this two nil ffs

Can't judge off 5 minutes of highlights but I think we still look the part, Nuno is great at learning and moving on

Hayden an uncontroversial red too.

Junior Hoilett has moments that are way better than a Warnock team deserves.

Citeh next Saturday :D

It's a freebie really

good old Easy City, we'll send out a 2nd string this aft and head them off at the pass - well if we can get that parked stagecoach moving!

So we're stuck with Ian Wright all season? Privatize the BBC.

gotta give it him, it takes a very special level of wankerdom to make otherwise reasonable ppl side up w/ R Keane.

when did wrighty ink up

holy jesus! nothing to worry about today. No Mooy and starting with a CB who looked out of his depth in the Championship!

https://occ-0-901-2433.1.nflxso.net/art/16b5f/c223c1dbc0044396bde5710126a7ccc07e316b5f.png

1987 man city 10 - 1 Hudds

consolation goal scored be ex City player, manager SuperMac said 3 of them were offside - although he was pissed most of the time in them days!

yeah well it probably won't be that bad eh?

will probably be surprisingly solid, but ugly af and easily beaten bt two goals, is my bold prediction!

Looking like it might be a few more than two

dunno, a Human Centipede/A Serbian Tale twofer today seems more entertaining than the prospect of 90 mins of this!

Hamer with his best imago impression there

I guess that's the Ederson Cannon claiming its first victim of the season

Hamer with his best imago impression there (x3)

Lossl would have saved two of them ffs, but we do need to make this 10 - 1 happen again, so good work Hamer!

Just 6 to go now

Project 10 - 1 update: Depoitre (with his new hair transplant) on for Sabiri who didn't even get a touch in the 1st half. Need some sense of urgency if we are going to concede 6 more in the next 40!

bit late now setting these high targets when ye had all summer to sign chris smalling

Lol @ De Bruyne Jr deciding to jump on his dad's knee

i'm scared

The Stockport Iniesta does actually look good.

looking forward to watching us play these on TV in a pub full of piss-taking bastards next weekend

Mouve along, nothing to see here

2-0

oh the lolmanity

everyone should do this to this shower

we should have given Levy whatever he wanted lol

old trafford moved brick by brick by sirs bobby and alex

Mou on course for an early Oct sacking.

nbc uk commentators think pogba is arrogant

find that lvl of opinion in my actial commentator unseemly partic when its shit

not a nicer player in the league than young to have his ankle studded imo

very good work Brighton, but with the caveat that they might find the going tougher against one of the big clubs!

obv could do without utd stealing poch before christmas but

"arrogant" always one of my most hated bullshit criticisms

ref a cunt obv

ref not showing red there is a coward and a cheat

impression of fred so far: scumbag

I don't think it counts if you're trying to take out your own player

All bantz aside though, I think that might actually have been the worst performance of the post-Fergie era

and there's a lot of competition obv

Seaguuullllls

hadn't seen this goal before, very tasty

Still, Huddersfield will always have this: pic.twitter.com/xkjfkuByqS

— Adam Hurrey (@FootballCliches) August 19, 2018

classic goal! Rob Edwards - who finished off that wonderful spell of passing is a humble wood butcher from Holmfirth these days!

Honley ... i should have said.

Huddersfield to be this years Palace imo, at least being this bad very early on gives you time to turn it round

tbf they have scored a goal before October.

Bad move that, yeah

If we don't beat Cardiff next week (just about the same side did the double on us inc a 3-0 dicking at home in our promotion season), there are some pretty harsh fixtures to see us through to October. I think we'll be rooted to the bottom of the table for some time yet. Character building stuff for these extra 12000 fans we've acquired in recent history!

tbf you get an extra {(sum of all football fans) - (sum of Cardiff fans)} fans when you play Cardiff

of course you get Colin's hordes of autograph hunters, in their dozens as well!

After Cardiff play you though, their next 7 league games are Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Burnley, Spurs, Fulham & Liverpool

Oh I definitely think as the season takes shape, Cardiff will be rock bottom. We might be a bit vulnerable this time, without the cushion of a good start - even though he has made some shit tactical decisions so far and sometimes his extreme pragmatism is infuriating - I have faith in Wagner to not let the decline become terminal. I think we've just been beaten by the Champions and runners up so far, when you are 2-0 down against Chelsea and Hazard comes on, you might as well abandon all hope, and Man City's 2nd string would finish top 4.

man, that's a tough one to take for Palace

decisions were all correct by the letter of the law but they definitely deserved something out of the game. If they got rid of Benteke they could be a real force

Liverpool no great shakes but fairly terrifying on the counter as always

Thread title is so spot on it's relegated my experience of watching LFC to getting a flat beer.

Boo hoo

Palace looked very good but I thought we deserved the points. Game management was a nice improvement on yr typical lpool

Great result, Palace are always a team we slip up against. Keita looks class, there was a little turn he did from deep in defence followed by a long ball to Salah that was incredible. Salah looks a bit off the pace, he could have scored a couple of goals yet he was still involved in the two goals we got. I'm not so sure about the sending off, think Wan-Bissaka (who looked excellent) was hard done by alright. Mané is back to his best form, he took his goal well

Yeah, Salah took a v heavy touch fractionally before Wan-Bissaka got to him, which concievably made it a much less clear goalscoring chance- in real time it initially looked like he might have got the ball.

Still, even Salah off his game is fckin terrifying to face

I'm not really moaning about the sending off tho tbh, he was brought down when clean through.

VR football feels like a fundamental misunderstanding of what actual football fans want to see, so business as usual you Sky cunts

Do they still do that PlayerCam thing? I could never work out why anyone would bother with that.

That Salah penalty isn't even an issue if that game kicked off at 3pm on a Saturday. It's about three fouls. Oliver significantly better than some of the refs, even with his trashcan heart.

sloshed Lloris loves getting pickled

fucks sake

no it was probs fucks chablis in this case!

ha!

heh

dammit i came to make the "blotto lloris loves getting ticketed" joke

how about

at least he has more points than arsenal

^ charlesfosterkane.applauding.gif

this is a good contest

it's almost like if you try and compete with Man City rather than stand off and admire them, then you don't get fucking arseholed by them!

indeed

How a player of Jimenez's experience got himself offside there I don't know, but yeah this is our best performance so far this season, can see some of ours starting to find their feet. Back 3 way more frightening than last season tho.

Need to unleash Traore sooner rather than later second half, give their defence something else to occupy them

Wolves doing well!

deservedly in the lead as well imo.

lol handball!

goal was kind of handed to them though

Gold and black specs on but not deliberate imo

it's kind of upsetting me that this proves we were just completely embarrassingly bad last week. But fuck these arrogant twats!

Closer to offside if anything

my position has always been that you can't award a goal that's come off someone's hand, deliberate or no

but fuck it like

I turned on the telly and City immediately scored. Sorry Wolves fans.

Aguero loves a dive doesn't he

More points dropped at home, worrying.

Luckily there's no law about goals bring disallowed from accidental hand contact, arses, or beach balls on the pitch.

Wish Adama had come on sooner but he's still building fitness I assume. He's gonna be a lot of fun.

3pms pass without a single comment

milner should be off but thats not how refs work is it

lol even Danny Mills said he shd've been booked

felipe anderson can carry it huh

Top of the league, lads

reffing that finds giving a penalty for that tackle on coleman difficult but sending richarlison off for rubbing eyebrows easy is the fucking problem

I heard earlier that Karius had been exiled loaned to Besiktas for 2 years, harsh but fair!

jesus this ref

that push on wilson could not have been more obvious

pretty dumb selfcunt from keane there but hope hes ok

red card for mendes lang there all day

fuck warnock and all warnocks and their teams

I watched one of the 3pm games and it took me a full 30 seconds from imago’s q to recall which (arswhu)

i watched a 3pm too but it was in league one and featured maybe more inaction than all the premier league games combined, so you got the better deal maybe

our best player yesterday was our £17.5 m record signing, which I suppose underlines the dearth of quality in our squad in nearly every other position where much less has been spent. It might not have really been a league one style fixture, but it was a damn good stab at doing an impression of one.

Warnock kills everything he touches tbf

Cholevas’ goal was probably unintentional but Watford have looked pretty good all round today.

Of course, having said that, Zaha scores.

Hodgson has been patient with Benteke

hes a wonderful man and long overdue an apology

It's bordering on gross negligence tbh, but I guess they have no money

Newcastle Chelsea got interesting

required some negligence from the ref though

I would like to suggest that "noble Rafa performing miracles whilst cruelly underfunded" is largely a bullshit narrative put about by his PR people

again

what!

no, rafa has always been a saint fighting against the bean counters!

he's found his spiritual home at Newcastle

at the time we got promoted their wage bill was 112m + and roughly the same as Leicester's, who'd recently won the league!

maybe they could do with spending more on scouting, idk

astonishing from hart there

not a fuckin word from commentary about the cunt either

all this club sizes talk is rendered ridiculous these days, by the hyper inflated tv money. Bournemouth have something like 4 times our wage bill and still get called a small club cos they play in a L1 stadium. Massive Newcastle are hamstrung with a load of overpaid flashy wasters, but apparently deserve better because loards of pissed up hordes of thick geordie twats are the best fucking ppl in the world!

Newcastle had only 19% possession at home not a good sign

that was a clear elbow on giroud and a clear peno murphy is such a contrary little cunt

playing Matic in a back three with Jones and Smalling

Jose you incorrigible rascal

ye'll win one nil the details are irrelevant

is utd full back thugs a meme yet

should be red

fuckin stupid

Lemme guess, Fred?

lucas

jesus this is piss from spurs

messin about at thebback and nobody passing up front

not tracking runs either

This is quite a game, all 22 players on the pitch appear to be playing terribly.

this is the best Utd have looked in ages lol

lol

both true things

absolutely

Actually Phil Jones has looked alright.

Oh wait I saw that again its a penalty.

lol old trafford lol cunt refs

nope

Def a peno

such a clear penalty youd be a parody to deny it

spurs just gifting the ball this is shit

Fred doing well so far. Rose having a 'mare

alli not coming back tbh

There's a chant of 'Hugo Lloris, he drives when he wants' and I've no idea which set of fans it's coming from.

drinks iirc

were two men down and theyre both dele alli

lol

this is... i dont know what this is. prob manu bringing out the very worst in every opposition they play.

dreary alli

fred is fucking shit

dele fffffffsssss

lucas playing v poorly in the air

i wonder if, just for tonight like, we should stop launching it to him

what an embarrassing passage of play

i'm all for spurs slaughtering manu if it gets mou out of the way but

dele alli. my god. he wouldn't make the sunderland XI.

Spurs shouldve had a pen and they created 2 good chances even though United are the better team. Anything could happen yet

Fred's been good ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lukaku and Pogba have both been horrible

starting to believe Shaw might actually win over Mourinho, more fool me

it's still not a penalty

't were a half decent 45 mins, before ruud fucking gullit turned up pretending to pundit

*throws telly into the garden*

dele as bad as usual but looks our most likely to actually score or create one

Shaw is p good! Bossing the wing like Robben ffs.

Matic isn't the Matic of last season so far.

FUCKING KANE smdh

fuck this fucking shit

*throws another telly in the garden*

oh my stream is behind the

Matic has been invisible but I doubt he's remotely fit

Phil was going to give something away sooner or later tbh

fuckfuckfuckfuckthisbullshit

Lol

woof woof woof wof wodj ijdmsk

three nil inc peno

this is fine

If you allow Lucas fucking Moura to score against ye, abandon all hope etc

Lucas Moura is the signing of the summer I'll have you know.

lucas moura was genuinely a great signing wtf

United defending fucking hell

As it stands United are below Arsenal.

Allow me to be irrational for once ok lads? Moura is quite alright.

0-2 is not enough. Let it be 0-7, so Mou can be butchered. Hattrick by Harry Kane, the dullest paedophile of the PL, will do nicely.

Mouout

Easy there now lbi, he's not the Pope

ITS FELLAINI TIME!

A bit harsh on Jane there, LBI!

Kane even!

Kane's dull though, so I was at least half right...

Def Fellaini time. Bring him and his brother on!

dele lol

what is Lindelof?

Alli in refusing to use his left leg shocker

xp

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/620/434/f9e.gif

blessig u moura

"united have NEVER lost 2-0 in the EPL. NEVER!"

great stuff arlo white

lol

lol that was like witchcraft

I'm not sure Premiership defenders are really used to a player with Moura's pace and directness going through the middle like that. Difficult to tell with this United back four though.

Its United's back 4, he looks pretty decent tho tbf

You've got to feel for Mourinho being beaten by teams who spent millions in the summer.

Howl
for Paul Pogba

I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by Mourinho, starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through Old Trafford at night looking for an angry fix,
angelheaded Fellaini's burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night,
with the absolute heart of the poem of life butchered out of their own bodies good to eat a thousand years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkNp56UZax4

Loving Poch's new callous hitman look this season

Love it lbi

excellent passive aggressive stuff from Mourinho at the end there

Mou applauding the fans now like its over for him, very odd

Some HBO-level drama from Mourinho there at the end. Either that Woodward fired him by text after the third goal.

i want mourinho sacked and if anyone gives him a big appointment they should be executed imo

mourinho has been managing sarcastically for about 6 months it's quite magnificent tbh

"From a tactical point of view, we didn't lose"

— Barney Ronay (@barneyronay) August 27, 2018

inject this into ma veins

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11483960/jose-walks-out-of-press-conference

Never change, Liverpool goalkeepers.

⚽️ Leicester 1-2 Liverpool | Ghezzal (GOAL) 63' pic.twitter.com/vrAeKyvBpl

— D9INE (@TheFinalNexus) September 1, 2018

lol!

beautiful

they accused Grobelaar for less than that

got it out of his system he'll be fine now

He has been v cocky since he started, that'll soften his cough

Cresswell with a quality forearm smash to Doherty, ref deigns to give a yellow.

ssssooooonnnnnn

is he avoiding military service then?

comedy fans will enjoy Raul Jimenez tripping over his own feet from 6 yards in front of an open goal tonight. i'm off to cut myself tho.

Some comedy misses from benteke to keep him company

Hon Wolves

Traore with the daylight robbery!!!!

Fuck a West Ham

not robbed them but what few chances there were have been at both ends

wd have liked us to be more convincing but again that's probably a good win and now Adama is off the mark i think he's gonna tear shit up

Huddersfield should probably have won this. I don’t think Everton had a shot in the second half.

despite the awful start I think we will improve, but terrifyingly VLP still looks better than any of our attacking players recruited in the summer!

Miss of the season by Raul Jimenez? pic.twitter.com/CzqD8ou1wm

— ‏ً (@UtdHenry) September 1, 2018

it appears Manuel needs some gel, that old chestnut eh?

kinda worrying, the crush Shearer has on us atm

Cech surely can’t continue much longer. Just passed directly to Arter on the end of the box - though he contrived to miss somehow.

Cardiff look like they could go at least a few more weeks before scoring.

Lol. Timing.

Mou silencing the doubters at Burnley

Comedy defending from Watford there

Toby nearly returned the favour.

Goal had been coming.

As had that one.

poch out

what a time to check the score for the first time ffs

2 goals conceded from corners

four this season from crosses

This ref wandered in from an aussie rules football game.

sort the fuckin crosses out lads

Kudos to Watford, unbelievable start from them

Callin it: Watford 2 emulate leicester and clown the premier league is too predictable brigade

We'll destroy Spurs in the CL

*runs*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qys7Kziu6XI

i was eagerly awaiting the grime communitys response to this crisis

fairly accurate dissection of the issues tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEx90Okj9xE

here to help guy for new manager

rip lucas

it's sad he was a racist

I love some of the Fascsplaining from Brazilians on twitter, nothing to see here!

was told to take up that position imo

will make a late drift into the centre id imagine

It’s not good.

The best you can say is that it doesn’t sound like he has thought it through particularly strongly. The propaganda effort has been so effective in blaming the left for all the country’s problems it is unfortunately not uncommon to hear people reflexively endorsing Bolsonaro as something new and different- though you could probably have said the same thing about Germany in the thirties.

if he stops illegal logging and safeguards the rainforest i will support him myself

thing about the fash though is that they generally don't give a shit about things like that

o for an ecologically sound bigot

should probably take this to controps thread but basically environment uber alles, i don't rly give a shit about anything else ultimately. obviously policies that safeguard the environment usually come hand in hand with a progressive social agenda

hey as long as the death squads dispose of bodies in a sustainable way right?

if they are the bodies of illegal loggers then yes

anyway this is probably moot as this bolsonaro fucker probably wants to turn brazil into one giant cattle ranch

all prog albums to be recycled

dont ye have a fuckin board yet

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/david-wagner-i-had-to-look-after-myself-very-early-i-had-to-become-an-adult-mqpwfvqk5?shareToken=0e14b3add7bb1ea4ae6abddadce9f209

Wagner on his Thai heritage, foodbanks, brexit etc.. He's definitely no Graham Souness - thank god.

this is gonna be shit

thread and 70% of UK Ilx will be dead before 3pm!

Starting as we mean to go on.

It’s going to be five nil by half time.

Thanks to the good people at iFollow I'll be able to watch some good and true League One football come 3pm, so count me out as well. If Worcestershire reach the T20 final I'll be even more distracted

vorm that is pathetic

Shared credit to Toby for lumping it against a Liverpool player and Eriksen heading backwards directly to Mane in the run-up.

oh a collection but nothing serious shouldve arisen

ref tbh letting plenty go from the red defence that seems a free when we do it.

but lfc were v quiet between the two goals. terrified of our badge?

dier shit.

Not sure the strategy of whacking it upfield in the hope that Lucas (5’8”) can win headers against Van Dijk will ultimately pay dividends.

Gini's first away goal o_O

Jesus Christ

Poch out

It’s going to be five nil by half time.

Too pessimistic. By full time.

cracking tackle on the diminutive right winger from Gomez there!

pisstake of a performance from vorm and dier

shockers

poch not doing his job tbh

SUPER MOEEN sorry wrong webforum

that Wijnaldum is Van La Parra's half-brother, might be a good omen for us today. Need to clutch at some straws as Zaha is starting.

wretched nonsense from p much every starter except Moura but if I was a Liverpool fan I'd have been at least as pissed off by the end I think

I'm a bit pissed off it wasn't 5-0 like but that's tempered by the 100% start to the season despite not playing all that well

both teams embarrassed by that score

ref still shouldve given that penalty on son tho

come to pub for 12.30 kick off ffs

first pint problems

eh, I'll live I guess

30 shots!

need to work on finishing and nerves but that was great, we mullered them. Also they were not any better considering 2 week break

Coadyenbauer has definitely progressed from the pretty good champo level midfielder we sold Wolves. Albeit based on hearing the inane ramblings of Holloway, but it sounds like he's comfortable in the prem.

Zlatan's got a black belt. #Zlatan500 pic.twitter.com/0iteGKX9cL

— Major League Soccer (@MLS) September 16, 2018

Coady is quite possibly Nuno's finest achievement so far

Richarlison a big absence, not totally surprised

Re Wolves was a real never in doubt match