This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2018

Honestly, no better kickoff than this:

A Star Is Born (2018, dir. Bradley Cooper) pic.twitter.com/BudBkeMSmZ

— ☭ a rube ☭ (@faggiecheung) August 28, 2018

i was scared that the Gotham Awards had just been given

Oscar's new calendar is moving everyone forward.

Burt Reynolds fans hoping Kirk and Olivia stay out of the obit montage this year

The Library of Congress invites you to submit your recommendations for movies to be included on the 2018 National Film Registry. Public nominations play a key role when the Librarian and Film Board are considering their final selections. - Deadline... https://t.co/cReNK3OJBu

— AMIA (@AMIAnet) September 4, 2018

Finally, Twilight is eligible!

I resisted suggesting The Fury

Sorry, Her First Biscuits (1909). Better luck last year!

Finally, Twilight is eligible!

― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.),

Paul Newman's last good performance.

https://www.loc.gov/programs/national-film-preservation-board/film-registry/films-not-yet-named-to-the-registry/

1978
The 480 Experience (1978)
Always For Pleasure (1978)
American Hot Wax (1978)
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes (1978)
Big Wednesday (1978)
Blue Collar (1978)
The Buddy Holly Story (1978)
California Suite (1978)
Capricorn One (1978)
The Cat from Outer Space (1978)
The Cheap Detective (1978)
Coma (1978)
Coming Home (1978)
Convoy (1978)
Corvette Summer (1978)
Daughter Rite (1978)
Dawn of the Dead (1978)
A Dream is What You Wake Up From (1978)
Every Which Way But Loose (1978)
Eyes of Laura Mars (1978)
Fingers (1978)
Flight of the Gossamer Condor (1978)
Foul Play (1978)
French Quarter (1978)
Furies, The (1978)
Gates of Heaven (1978)
Go Tell the Spartans (1978)
Grease (1978)
Hardware Wars (1978)
Heaven Can Wait (1978)
Hooper (1978)
House Calls (1978)
Ice Castles (1978)
Impasse (1978)
Interiors (1978)
Invasion of the Body Snacthers (1978)
The Last Waltz (1978)
Lmno (1978)
The Lord of the Rings (1978)
Make Me Psychic (1978)
Midnight Express (1978)
Mongoloid (1978)
The Mongreloid (1978)
Movie Movie  (1978)
Northern Lights (1978)
Paradise Alley (1978)
Piranha (1978)
Rip Van Winkle (1978)
Same Time, Next Year (1978)
The Small One (1978)
The Swarm (1978)
Teenage Father (1978)
An Unmarried Woman (1978)
Up in Smoke (1978)
Viewmaster (1978)
Visions of a City (1978)
Watership Down (1978)
A Wedding (1978)
Who Is Killing the Great Chefs of Europe? (1978)
Whole Shooting' Match (1978)
With Babies and Banners (1978)
The Wiz (1978)

Yes, thank god they reminded us all to nominate The Swarm.

Severe dis of Burt Reynolds' The End as well as "The Furies"

put the unedited last waltz clip of the coke rock in neil youngs nose in the registry

Gotham Award nods announced Thursday, kicking things off in earnest: https://gotham.ifp.org/

And away we go!

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/ethan-hawkes-first-reformed-leads-gotham-awards-nominations-1202984141/

Best Feature
“The Favourite” (Fox Searchlight Pictures)
“First Reformed (A24)
“If Beale Street Could Talk” (Annapurna Pictures)
“Madeline’s Madeline” (Oscilloscope Laboratories)
“The Rider” (Sony Pictures Classics)

Best Documentary
“Bisbee ‘17” (4th Row Films)
“Hale County This Morning, This Evening” (The Cinema Guild)
“Minding the Gap” (Hulu & Magnolia Pictures)
“Shirkers” (Netflix)
“Won’t You Be My Neighbor?” (Focus Features)

Best Actor
Adam Driver in “BlacKkKlansman” (Focus Features)
Ben Foster in “Leave No Trace” (Bleecker Street)
Richard E. Grant in “Can You Ever Forgive Me?” (Fox Searchlight Pictures)
Ethan Hawke in “First Reformed” (A24)
Lakeith Stanfield in “Sorry to Bother You” (Annapurna Pictures)

Best Actress*
Glenn Close in “The Wife” (Sony Pictures Classics)
Toni Collette in “Hereditary” (A24)
Kathryn Hahn in “Private Life” (Netflix)
Regina Hall in “Support the Girls” (Magnolia Pictures)
Michelle Pfeiffer in “Where is Kyra?” (Paladin and Great Point Media)
*The 2018 Best Actress nominating committee also voted to award a special Gotham Jury Award to Olivia Colman, Emma Stone, and Rachel Weisz for their ensemble performance in The Favourite. (Fox Searchlight Pictures)

Breakthrough Actor
Yalitza Aparicio in “Roma” (Netflix)
Elsie Fisher in “Eighth Grade” (A24)
Helena Howard in “Madeline’s Madeline” (Oscilloscope Laboratories)
KiKi Layne in “If Beale Street Could Talk” (Annapurna Pictures)
Thomasin Harcourt McKenzie in “Leave No Trace” (Bleecker Street)

Bingham Ray Breakthrough Director Award
Ari Aster for “Hereditary” (A24)
Bo Burnham for “Eighth Grade” (A24)
Jennifer Fox for “The Tale” (HBO)
Crystal Moselle for “Skate Kitchen” (Magnolia Pictures)
Boots Riley for “Sorry to Bother You” (Annapurna Pictures)

Best Screenplay
“The Favourite,” Deborah Davis and Tony McNamara (Fox Searchlight Pictures)
“First Reformed,” Paul Schrader (A24)
“Private Life,” Tamara Jenkins (Netflix)
“Support the Girls,” Andrew Bujalski (Magnolia Pictures)
“Thoroughbreds,” Cory Finley (Focus Features)

Breakthrough Series – Long Form
“Alias Grace,” (Netflix)
“The End of the F***ing World,” (Netflix)
“Killing Eve” (BBC America)
“Pose” (FX Networks)
“Sharp Objects,” (HBO)

I hope the nomination signals that Ethan Hawke will be part of The Conversation this season.

His category is the dry one this year, of the two leading categories. So odds look good.

Here were last year's nominees in the main categories, for reference:

BEST FEATURE
Call Me by Your Name
The Florida Project
Get Out
Good Time
I, Tonya

BEST DOCUMENTARY
Ex Libris – The New York Public Library
Rat Film
Strong Island
Whose Streets?
The Work

BEST SCREENPLAY
The Big Sick, Emily V. Gordon and Kumail Nanjiani
Brad’s Status, Mike White
Call Me by Your Name, James Ivory
Columbus, Kogonada
Get Out, Jordan Peele
Lady Bird, Greta Gerwig

BEST ACTOR
Willem Dafoe in The Florida Project
James Franco in The Disaster Artist
Daniel Kaluuya in Get Out
Robert Pattinson in Good Time
Adam Sandler in The Meyerowitz Stories (New and Selected)
Harry Dean Stanton in Lucky

BEST ACTRESS
Melanie Lynskey in I Don’t Feel at Home in This World Anymore
Haley Lu Richardson in Columbus
Margot Robbie in I, Tonya
Saoirse Ronan in Lady Bird
Lois Smith in Marjorie Prime

So, two and two from the acting nods (one supporting, which I could easily see happening with Grant's nod this year).

so the Gothams just have zero interest in films that won't be edited/locked til December? or even November 15?

The Gotham noms look pretty optimistic; this is going to be a First Man vs. A Star is Born showdown on Oscar night.

First Man a big b.o. disappointment... awards love is dicey

New Yorkers, MoMA has revealed its initial "The Contenders" screenings, including appearances by Steve McQueen, Paul Schrader, Spike Lee, Paul Dano, Tamara Jenkins etc.

https://www.moma.org/calendar/film/5025?locale=en

First Man's publicity team has a shot at appealing to loony lefty Hollywood by blaming its B.O. failure on wingnut smears over the use or lack thereof of the flag.

GREEN BOOK: Third-rate SOPRANOS cosplay crossed with reverse DRIVING MS. DAISY feat. a protagonist racist enough to throw glasses away because they touched black men’s lips but somehow not racist enough to have the N-word in his back pocket. This film will do very, very well.

— Vikram Murthi (@fauxbeatpoet) October 18, 2018

Vanity Fair's Oscar podcast, on the one occasion they could tear their lips from A Star Is Born's ass, argued basically the same point.

what month does VF start an Oscar podcast? May?

Oh this is a year-round obscenity in your world.

might as well be Jeffrey Wells

those Gotham nominees look pretty dece for the most part!

At this point in the year, they usually do.

I better get used to Glenn Close's name.

British Independent Film Award nominations... My god, do they ever have all the categories:

Best British Independent Film
“AMERICAN ANIMALS”
“BEAST”
“DISOBEDIENCE”
“THE FAVOURITE”
“YOU WERE NEVER REALLY HERE”

Best Director
ANDREW HAIGH (“Lean on Pete”)
YORGOS LANTHIMOS (“The Favourite”)
BART LAYTON (“American Animals”)
MICHAEL PEARCE (“Beast”)
LYNNE RAMSAY (“You Were Never Really Here”)

Best Screenplay
DEBORAH DAVIS, TONY McNAMARA (“The Favourite”)
BART LAYTON (“American Animals”)
SEBASTIAN LELIO, REBECCA LENKIEWICZ (“Disobedience”)
MICHAEL PEARCE (“Beast”)
LYNNE RAMSAY (“You Were Never Really Here”)

Best Actress
GEMMA ARTERTON (“The Escape”)
JESSIE BUCKLEY (“Beast”)
OLIVIA COLMAN (“The Favourite”)
MAXINE PEAKE (“Funny Cow”)
RACHEL WEISZ (“Disobedience”)

Best Supporting Actress
NINA ARIANDA (“Stan & Ollie”)
RACHEL McADAMS (“Disobedience”)
EMMA STONE (“The Favourite”)
RACHEL WEISZ (“The Favourite”)
MOLLY WRIGHT (“Apostasy”)

Best Actor
JOE COLE (“A Prayer Before Dawn”)
STEVE COOGAN (“Stan & Ollie”)
RUPERT EVERETT (“The Happy Prince”)
JOAQUIN PHOENIX (“You Were Never Really Here”)
CHARLIE PLUMMER (“Lean on Pete”)

Best Supporting Actor
STEVE BUSCEMI (“Lean on Pete”)
BARRY KEOGHAN (“American Animals”)
ALESSANDRO NIVOLA (“Disobedience”)
EVAN PETERS (“American Animals”)
DOMINIC WEST (“Colette”)

Most Promising Newcomer
JESSIE BUCKLEY (“Beast”)
MICHAELA COEL (“Been So Long”)
LIV HILL (“Jellyfish”)
MARCUS RUTHERFORD (“Obey”)
MOLLY WRIGHT (“Apostasy”)

The Douglas Hickox Award for Best Debut Director
RICHARD BILLINGHAM (“Ray & Liz”)
DANIEL KOKOTAJLO (“Apostasy”)
MATT PALMER (“Calibre”)
MICHAEL PEARCE (“Beast”)
LEANNE WELHAM (“Pili”)

Debut Screenwriter
KAREN GILLAN (“The Party’s Just Beginning”)
DANIEL KOKOTAJLO (“Apostasy”)
BART LAYTON (“American Animals”)
MATT PALMER (“Calibre”)
MICHAEL PEARCE (“Beast”)

Breakthrough Producer
KRISTIAN BRODIE (“Beast”)
JACQUI DAVIES (“Ray & Liz”)
ANNA GRIFFIN (“Calibre”)
MARCIE MACLELLAN (“Apostasy”)
FAYE WARD (“Stan & Ollie”)

The Discovery Award
“THE DIG”
“IRENE’S GHOST”
“A MOMENT IN THE REEDS”
“SUPER NOVEMBER”
“VOYAGEUSE”

Best Documentary
“BEING FRANK: THE CHRIS SIEVEY STORY”
“EVELYN”
“ISLAND”
“NAE PASARAN”
“UNDER THE WIRE”

Best British Short Film
“THE BIG DAY”
“BITTER SEA”
“THE FIELD”
“TO KNOW HIM”

Best International Independent Film
“CAPERNAUM”
“COLD WAR”
“THE RIDER”
“ROMA”
“SHOPLIFTERS”

Best Casting
“AMERICAN ANIMALS”
“APOSTASY”
“BEAST”
“THE FAVOURITE”
“STAN & OLLIE”

Best Cinematography
“AMERICAN ANIMALS”
“THE FAVOURITE”
“LEAN ON PETE”
“A PRAYER BEFORE DAWN”
“YOU WERE NEVER REALLY HERE”

Best Costume Design
“COLETTE”
“AN EVENING WITH BEVERLY LUFF LINN”
“THE FAVOURITE”
“PETERLOO”
“STAN & OLLIE”

Best Editing
“AMERICAN ANIMALS”
“THE FAVOURITE”
“HAPPY NEW YEAR, COLIN BURSTEAD”
“A PRAYER BEFORE DAWN”
“YOU WERE NEVER REALLY HERE”

Best Make-up & Hair Design
“COLETTE”
“THE FAVOURITE”
“PETERLOO”
“A PRAYER BEFORE DAWN”
“STAN & OLLIE”

Best Music
“AMERICAN ANIMALS”
“BEAST”
“FUNNY COW”
“ISLAND OF THE HUNGRY GHOSTS”
“YOU WERE NEVER REALLY HERE”

Best Production Design
“COLETTE”
“THE FAVOURITE”
“PETERLOO”
“RAY & LIZ”
“STAN & OLLIE”

Best Sound
“AMERICAN ANIMALS”
“THE FAVOURITE”
“A PRAYER BEFORE DAWN”
“TIME TRIAL”
“YOU WERE NEVER REALLY HERE”

Best Effects
“DEAD IN A WEEK (OR YOUR MONEY BACK)”
“EARLY MAN”
“PETERLOO”

Charlie Plummer!

American Animals came and went from NYC in about a week. Maybe the title sends a message.

Well there's one step closer to a win for Bradley Cooper:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/viggo-mortensen-says-sorry-using-n-word-q-a-1159813?utm_source=twitter&utm_source=Direct

i guess it's a good thing Eminem didn't play that role

lmao that's such a dumb controversy, like obviously he shouldn't be dropping n-bombs but given the context there's clearly zero malice involved

has never mattered to snowflakes

they deserve all the awards

In a contest between Green Book and snowflakes ...

tbh I don't think anyone will remember this when the movie comes out and makes massive bank

I'm obviously being tongue in cheek. If Casey Affleck can win an Oscar ...

No idea if this is a thing or not, but this thread is baked on the premise of a whole bunch of non-things, so:

12th Annual Cinema Eye Honors

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN NONFICTION FEATURE FILMMAKING
Bisbee ‘17
Directed by Robert Greene | Produced by Susan Bedusa, Bennett Elliott and Douglas Tirola

Hale County This Morning, This Evening
Directed by RaMell Ross | Produced by Joslyn Barnes, Su Kim and RaMell Ross

Minding the Gap
Directed by Bing Liu | Produced by Bing Liu and Diane Moy Quon

Of Fathers and Sons
Directed by Talal Derki | Produced by Ansgar Frerich, Eva Kemme, Tobias N. Siebert and Hans Robert Eisenhauer

Three Identical Strangers
Directed by Tim Wardle | Produced by Grace Hughes-Hallett and Becky Read

Won’t You Be My Neighbor?
Directed by Morgan Neville | Produced by Caryn Capotosto, Nicholas Ma and Morgan Neville

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN DIRECTION
Robert Greene | Bisbee ‘17
RaMell Ross | Hale County This Morning, This Evening
Bing Liu | Minding the Gap
Talal Derki | Of Fathers and Sons
Sandi Tan | Shirkers

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN PRODUCTION
Susan Bedusa, Bennett Elliott and Douglas Tirola | Bisbee ‘17
Stephen Maing, Ross Tuttle and Eric Daniel Metzgar | Crime + Punishment
Josh Lowell, Phillip Manderla and Peter Mortimer | The Dawn Wall
Elizabeth Chai Vasarhelyi, Jimmy Chin, Evan Hayes and Shannon Dill | Free Solo
Ansgar Frerich, Eva Kemme, Tobias N. Siebert and Hans Robert Eisenhauer | Of Fathers and Sons
Daniel McCabe, Geoff McLean and Alyse Ardell Spiegel | This is Congo

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN EDITING
RaMell Ross | Hale County This Morning, This Evening
Julien Faraut | John McEnroe: In the Realm of Perfection
Joshua Altman and Bing Liu | Minding the Gap
Michael Harte | Three Identical Strangers
Jeff Malmberg and Aaron Wickenden | Won’t You Be My Neighbor?

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN CINEMATOGRAPHY
Jarred Alterman | Bisbee ‘17
Shevaun Mizrahi | Distant Constellation
Jimmy Chin, Clair Popkin and Mikey Schaeffer | Free Solo
RaMell Ross | Hale County This Morning, This Evening
Emmanuel Gras | Makala
Bing Liu | Minding the Gap

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN ORIGINAL MUSIC SCORE
Keegan DeWitt | Bisbee ‘17
Travis Wilkerson | Did You Wonder Who Fired the Gun?
Marco Beltrami | Free Solo
Nathan Halpern and Chris Ruggiero | Minding the Gap
Ishai Adar | Shirkers
Dan Deacon | Time Trial

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN GRAPHIC DESIGN OR ANIMATION
Syd Garon, Anton Goddard and Chris Kirk | Bathtubs Over Broadway
Toby Cornish | Beuys
Patrick Mate | Harold and Lillian: A Hollywood Love Story
Shofela Coker | Liyana
Lucas Celler and Sandi Tan | Shirkers
Ariel Costa and Rodrigo Miguel Rangel | Won’t You Be My Neighbor?

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN A DEBUT FEATURE FILM
América | Directed by Chase Whiteside and Erick Stoll
Distant Constellation | Directed by Shevaun Mizrahi
Hale County This Morning, This Evening | Directed by RaMell Ross
Minding the Gap | Directed by Bing Liu
Shirkers | Directed by Sandi Tan

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN NONFICTION SHORT FILMMAKING
Baby Brother | Directed by Kamau Bilal
Concussion Protocol | Directed by Josh Begley
My Dead Dad’s Porno Tapes | Directed by Charlie Tyrell
Skip Day | Directed by Patrick Bresnan and Ivete Lucas
Volte | Directed by Monika Kolecka and Karolina Poryzala

SPOTLIGHT AWARD
The Distant Barking of Dogs | Directed by Simon Lereng Wilmont
Island of Hungry Ghosts | Directed by Gabrielle Brady
The Other Side of Everything | Directed by Mila Turajlic
Roll Red Roll | Directed by Nancy Schwartzman
The Silence of Others | Directed by Almudena Carracedo and Robert Bahar
A Woman Captured | Directed by Bernadett Tuza-Ritter

Lol, love the single weird nomination for 'Makala' which is indeed one of the best shot films I've seen all year. Otherwise I'm rooting for 'Minding the Gap'.

has anyone seen the Greene?

the doc I keep hearing about this year is What are You Going to Do When the World's On Fire?

been meaning to check out both, not sure if they passed through yet

I'm obviously being tongue in cheek. If Casey Affleck can win an Oscar ...

― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, November 9, 2018 11:40 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he won in early 2017 - if Manchester By the Sea had come out a year later, he wouldn't have even been nominated. he won by the skin of his teeth.

x-post: Yeah, it's good. Solid reenactment doc, sorta like an Act of Killing for US anti-union history. But I felt I've seen most of it before.

yeah missed Bisbee when it ran here but i'm sure there'll be some year-end screenings

flappy otm re the New Oscars

European Film Awards noms

https://www.europeanfilmawards.eu/en_EN/nomination-current

^all five of those nominated films look interesting to me

went to a decently packed matinee of Boy Erased yesterday and the projectionist started playing Beautiful Boy instead 😂

Skip both

Jeez, Independent Spirit Award nominations are announced this Friday.

Boy Erased is like Joel Edgerton's acting.

I thought Flea was OK

I'm reading the memoir, and, boy, is it funnier/more fun than the movie

Some of the bigger dates this season, btw:

Film Independent Spirit Award Nominations (ISP) – November 16, 2018
National Board of Review (NBR) – November 27, 2018
New York Film Critics Circle (NYFCC) – November 29, 2018
Golden Globe Nominations (HFPA) – December 6, 2018
Los Angeles Film Critics Circle (LAFCA) – December 9, 2018
Screen Actors Guild Nominations (SAG) – December 12, 2018
Oscar Shortlists Announced – December 17, 2018

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-oscar-race-became-a-referendum-netflix-1160629

Some Academy skeptics are railing against Netflix's reliance on four-walling, a strategy akin to self-publishing in the cinema world, in which a distributor pays theater owners for the privilege of screening to the general public, rather than booking a theater and sharing a percentage of the gross. By four-walling, Netflix removes the burden of revealing any unfavorable box office numbers, a privilege none of the other companies releasing their best picture contenders the traditional way will enjoy. If Netflix secures a best picture nomination for Roma based strictly on these purchased screenings, multiple knowledgeable sources say they believe the film will become the first ever four-walled movie to do so in the modern era.

that's an interesting wrinkle

It’s November 15th. pic.twitter.com/RuifiA2FpD

— Mike D’Angelo (@gemko) November 15, 2018

John Waters is the only first list, year in and year out, to me. Nonetheless ...

http://time.com/5454739/best-movies-2018/

STEPHANIE ZACHAREK
01. Roma
02. Won’t You Be My Neighbor?
03. First Reformed
04. Eighth Grade
05. The Favourite
06. Can You Ever Forgive Me?
07. A Star Is Born
08. If Beale Street Could Talk
09. Bohemian Rhapsody (!)
10. Paddington 2

Truth be told, though, I don't know of any particular Phantom Thread or Silence proposition waiting in the wings this year. (Vice for sure ain't it.)

Alan Sepinwall tweeted that due to print deadlines, not only had he had to do his Best of 2018 list already, he had already seen a new tv show that deserved to be on that list.

LOL

i detest this premature shit more every year

You detest everything more every year

07. A Star Is Born
09. Bohemian Rhapsody
10. Paddington 2

waht

P2 is a defensible choice and it'll show up on more lists

And Bohemian Rhapsody is a runaway hit and I'm sure she's getting heat from her editor.

Paddington 2 is from 2017 in my book, but if it came out somewhere in 2018, it's definitely among the best of that year.

Yeah, it's pretty securely on my list at this point, and pre-judging what's yet to come.

i'm certainly running away from BR

Can You Ever Forgive Me? was good and its place in the bottom half of a top 10 is appropriate in a relatively mediocre year

Yeah, I'm not much in love with movies this year tbqh.

Feeling very 2006 to me, only this time there isn't a David Lynch to pull me out of it at the last minute. (Though there is a Cuaron.)

Damn, and 2006 was the year of sandbox, and there isn't much of a detrius thread to relive it: end-of-2006 film stuff (detrius 2, the Richard Donner Cut)

the Cuaron doesn't look like it's gonna get here until 2019 (just like Inland Empire in 2007)

otherwise i'm most excited for The Favourite and If Beale Street Could Talk

Infinite Football towers over anything else released this year, imo. But I'm guessing An Elephant Sitting Still will win most polls.

I hope everyone gets to see Transit before the year's out.

I have, but looks like 2019 for the US.

I'm guessing An Elephant Sitting Still will win most polls.

You're admirably odd.

wrong adverb

lol. I do want to see it

a lot of the films that got talked about at Cannes and Venice this year looked interesting to me: 3 Faces, Asako I & II, Ash Is Purest White, Border, Burning, Cold War, Capernaum, Donbass, The Favourite, Girl, Lazarro Felice, Long Day’s Journey Into Night, The Image Book, Manta Ray, Roma, Shoplifters, The Sisters Brothers, Suspiria, The Wild Pear Tree. I haven’t seen any of them yet, probably won't until 2019

I rolled up every shirt sleeve I own as I prepare to fight the "Roma fucking sucks, you lemmings" fight this season.

To clarify, I'm not saying 2018's slate of movies is bad (or 2006's, in retrospect). Just saying I'm in a hibernation cycle.

Ash Is Purest White rules, at least. Burning has been slightly overrated.

xxp I don't even have a bete noir this year :(

(A Star is Born is far too slight for me to count.)

knowing the year is backloaded and i simply missed a lot of stuff, this is a pretty good shortlist of US releases for me

First Reformed
8 Hours Don't Make a Day
Let the Sunshine In
Claire's Camera
Monrovia, Indiana
The Death of Stalin
The Guardians

Ash also 2019 in US.

Burning hasn't been overrated, it's that no one except Reverse Shot has written well about it.

That said Yeun is amazing in it and I hope he's properly recognized

As of right now ...

24 Frames
First Reformed
Zama
Let the Sunshine In
Paddington 2

I'm sure the Wiseman will sneak into the upper ranks. My screener of Burning looks like ass, so don't expect I'll see it til next year. The Death of Stalin was grim and unfunny.

The only things left this year I'm really interested in are the Cuaron, Coens, and Bodied, which has a surprising multi-week engagement at TIFF's venue rn

Zama would probably top my list this year but I caught it at TIFF '17

all 3 principals in Burning seemed like concepts, not characters, tho i found much to like in it.

did Western get US release this year? will certainly be high on my list. still have reservations about Asako i & ii, but none have stuck with me more; looking forward to hearing people thoughts.

It did, and it was an oversight by me not to mention it!

If i was still voting in a critics' group, I would give some consideration to Gary Graver's cinematography for the Welles film.

Wait, which one did you vote in before?

If you're talking about the same one I'm still in, it's like impossible to get kicked out of it.

I quit. It seemed honorable as I was no longer writing.

you mean the OFCS? I quit for the same reason as Morbs but the reply-all squabbling ended up making it satisfying to do so

Claire's Camera
Ava
Zama
Winter Brothers
First Reformed
You Were Never Really Here
Let the Sunshine In
The Guardians
Support the Girls
Museo

whoops -- I meant Sorry to Bother You

me : YWNRH :: Soto : Roma

actually looking over my list I really loved all of these:

1. Let the Sunshine In
2. 24 Frames
3. You Were Never Really Here
4. First Reformed
5. Wobble Palace

if the next few months don't disappoint, might not be as dire a year as I thought

I've liked or loved most of the Kiarostamis I've seen, but I confess 24 Frames flew right over my head. don't understand the appeal at all

Paddington 2 is from 2017 in my book, but if it came out somewhere in 2018, it's definitely among the best of that year.

the bear film was US 2018, because Weinsteins: when Harvey finally went under investigation, Bob scrambled to sell it elsewhere so it wouldn't go down with the ship

Put me in a trance. I also realize on a different day, it could've put me to sleep. xp

Not a bad thing sometimes, as I learned from Hou and Tsai.

I'd have loved a trance; I found myself calculating remaining runtime

yeah, and having said all that, it's still my least favorite Kiarostami (of the ~10 I've seen).

Best video store rental so far has been TEN. the DVD includes 10 ON TEN, which is just 80 minutes of film school from Kiarostami himself in a car. Fucking incredible, both of them. Saw they didn't get any votes in the recent poll, not sure how obscure those films are.

and for what it's worth, Claire's Camera really, really bored me. maybe on a different day...

I quit. It seemed honorable as I was no longer writing.

Same, but at the same time it feels more honorable to remain as a bulwark against the Green Book demo.

(I know, I know. It matters not.)

don't know how widely it's been seen but i was impressed by Cocote

would happily join a critics' circle for elitist, embittered former OFCSers. run the poll after the OFCS' closes, and everything that wins one of their awards is disqualified

That wouldn't be difficult.

elitist and embittered sums up ILX film nerds too

The results from the 2017 film poll never did actually get revealed, did they.

the real results from the 2017 film poll were the friends we didn't make along the way

they did! sic took over and did it in the summer

that bullshit horror-comedy finished #2

to I Cannot Stand "Chic"

Eric posted in the results thread, but in case anyone wants to revist: Delayed Due To Projection Issues - the 2017 ILX Film Poll Results Thread

Ah right, I remember now. I think maybe there was a different movie poll that's still on ice.

I keep thinking the first image on this thread is an animation of someone milking a cow, which I guess would be kinda appropriate for the topic.

Independent Spirit Award Nominations -- We the Animals leads with 5 nods; Eighth Grade and First Reformed each get 4

BEST FEATURE

Eight Grade
First Reformed
If Beale Street Could Talk
Leave No Trace
You Were Never Really Here

BEST DIRECTOR

Debra Granik, LEAVE NO TRACE
Barry Jenkins, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK
Tamara Jenkins, PRIVATE LIFE
Lynne Ramsay, YOU WERE NEVER REALLY HERE
Paul Schrader, FIRST REFORMED

BEST FEMALE LEAD

Glenn Close, THE WIFE
Toni Collette, HEREDITARY
Elsie Fisher, EIGHTH GRADE
Regina Hall, SUPPORT THE GIRLS
Helena Howard, MADELINE’S MADELINE
Carey Mulligan, WILDLIFE

BEST MALE LEAD

John Cho, SEARCHING
Daveed Diggs, BLINDSPOTTING
Ethan Hawke, FIRST REFORMED
Christian Malheiros, SÓCRATES
Joaquin Phoenix, YOU WERE NEVER REALLY HERE

BEST SUPPORTING MALE

Raúl Castillo, WE THE ANIMALS
Adam Driver, BLACKKKLANSMAN
Richard E. Grant, CAN YOU EVER FORGIVE ME?
Josh Hamilton, EIGHTH GRADE
John David Washington, MONSTERS AND MEN

BEST SUPPORTING FEMALE

Kayli Carter, PRIVATE LIFE
Tyne Daly, A BREAD FACTORY
Regina King, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK
Thomasin Harcourt McKenzie, LEAVE NO TRACE
J. Smith-Cameron, NANCY

BEST SCREENPLAY

Richard Glatzer (Writer/Story By), Rebecca Lenkiewicz & Wash Westmoreland, COLETTE
Nicole Holofcener & Jeff Whitty, CAN YOU EVER FORGIVE ME?
Tamara Jenkins, PRIVATE LIFE
Boots Riley, SORRY TO BOTHER YOU
Paul Schrader FIRST REFORMED

BEST DOCUMENTARY

HALE COUNTY THIS MORNING, THIS EVENING
MINDING THE GAP
OF FATHERS AND SONS
ON HER SHOULDERS
SHIRKERS
WON’T YOU BE MY NEIGHBOR?

BEST INTERNATIONAL FILM

BURNING (South Korea)
THE FAVOURITE (United Kingdom)
HAPPY AS LAZZARO (Italy)
ROMA (Mexico)
SHOPLIFTERS (Japan)

BEST FIRST FEATURE

HEREDITARY
SORRY TO BOTHER YOU
THE TALE
WE THE ANIMALS
WILDLIFE

BEST FIRST SCREENPLAY

Bo Burnham, EIGHTH GRADE
Christina Choe, NANCY
Cory Finley, THOROUGHBREDS
Jennifer Fox, THE TALE
Quinn Shephard (Writer/Story By) and Laurie Shephard (Story By), BLAME

BEST EDITING

Joe Bini, YOU WERE NEVER REALLY HERE
Keiko Deguchi, Brian A. Kates & Jeremiah Zagar, WE THE ANIMALS
Luke Dunkley, Nick Fenton, Chris Gill & Julian Hart, AMERICAN ANIMALS
Anne Fabini, Alex Hall and Gary Levy, THE TALE
Nick Houy, MID90S

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY

Ashley Connor, MADELINE’S MADELINE
Diego Garcia, WILDLIFE
Benjamin Loeb, MANDY
Sayombhu Mukdeeprom, SUSPIRIA
Zak Mulligan, WE THE ANIMALS

JOHN CASSAVETES AWARD

A BREAD FACTORY
EN EL SÉPTIMO DÍA
NEVER GOIN’ BACK
SÓCRATES
THUNDER ROAD

BONNIE AWARD

Debra Granik
Tamara Jenkins
Karyn Kusama

ROBERT ALTMAN AWARD

SUSPIRIA

McCarthy didn't get mentioned eh

She should've.

On the other hand, what is so special about Support the Girls? sure, Regina Hall was fine, but there was nothing there. fwiw I hated that guy's last movie Computer Chess

Madeline's Madeline got robbed :(

Loved Computer Chess and not much else he's done.

BEST SUPPORTING MALE

Raúl Castillo

Rowr.

BEST INTERNATIONAL FILM

BURNING (South Korea)
THE FAVOURITE (United Kingdom)
HAPPY AS LAZZARO (Italy)
ROMA (Mexico)
SHOPLIFTERS (Japan)

Pretty hard to argue against this lineup, overall.

Neither Elephant nor Bear in that lineup, though

no Transit, La Flor or Ash makes me sad

I'm glad you liked Transit as much as well. One of the best films I saw at Berlin. Felt a bit tired at Ash, even though it's probably the best of the three recent big Jia Zhangke films. I miss the scrappiness a bit, though :(

http://gothamist.com/2018/11/16/snow_storm_1.php#photo-1

I would think none of these are eligible, as they all will be released in '19.

also Frederik stfu

sorry, i meant neither Transit, La Flor nor Ash are 2018 releases

the IFP isn't yet rarified enough to laud films invisible to the public

Uh, isn't that essentially the only thing that they do?

blow me

Have not seen HAPPY AS LAZZARO or SHOPLIFTERS

Look forward to hating Roma all season.

nobody outside of a few festivals has seen ELEPHANT in this country, you clown

xp

Look forward to hating Roma all season.

Of course it's funny - this is all
too laughable to be anything else.
You know what I think about this -
this ROMA obsession of yours - and
now this ridiculous attempt to whip
yourself up into an angry froth

It is possible - even conceivable - that you've confused me with that gang of backward ILXers you've been playing tricks on - that you have the same contempt for me that you have for them?

Very effective. But why take it out on me?

oh the boys are doing their routine again

BEST SUPPORTING MALE

Raúl Castillo
Adam Driver

I would willingly make my directorial debut with these two on a closed set.

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BPHRW9/laura-harring-justin-theroux-mulholland-dr-2002-BPHRW9.jpg

ACTION!

"An Elephant Sitting Still" wins Best Film at the @Golden_Horse awards. Even more so than normal, I haven't and won't see everything of importance this year; but of those I have, Hu's is definitely the standout, a major masterpiece that should be discussed among the decade's best

— Michael J. Anderson (@Tativille_MJA) November 17, 2018

He doesn't even have a blue check mark.

I'm planning on turning him into the Dick Nixon of ilx film threads.

loved him in the red room

Gothams: best film to The Rider; Hawke, Collette

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/gotham-awards-winners-list-2018-new-york-1203037073/

Hawke and Schrader's writing noms the likeliest to keep appearing this semester.

Not sure how, but The Rider already had its shot at the IFP indie awards last year.

I hope First Reformed doesn't get swept aside for Bohemian Rhapsody/A Star is Born. Hawke and Schrader have never won Oscars in their respective categories right?

Schrader has never even been nominated.

for writing?

Hawke, we should note, has two supporting noms for acting and one for co-writing (Before Sunset).

Just saw an assembly cut of VICE.

Wait, that was the finished film? Oy gevalt.

— Jordan Hoffman (@jhoffman) November 26, 2018

we dont do Oscars in November in this fuckin' thread

even tho it's ALL THAT MATTERS NOD NOD NOD

This thread isn't even spelled right, what kind of rules do you expect for a thread like that anyway?

Cider House

https://media1.tenor.com/images/83e9f264560cb0f7347e86610d9fb318/tenor.gif?itemid=4268615

A thread like this the doesn't nod toward Oscars is like a thread about gin that doesn't mention martinis.

eff 'em and all AA scholarship

this is about the GOOD stuff

you and yer gotdamn nodz

eff 'em and all AA scholarship

this is about the GOOD stuff

As if on cue, here are this year's National Board of Review results ...

Best Film
GREEN BOOK

Best Director
Bradley Cooper, A STAR IS BORN

Best Actor
Viggo Mortensen, GREEN BOOK

Best Actress
Lady Gaga, A STAR IS BORN

Best Supporting Actor
Sam Elliott, A STAR IS BORN

Best Supporting Actress
Regina King, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK

Best Original Screenplay
Paul Schrader, FIRST REFORMED

Best Adapted Screenplay
Barry Jenkins, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK

Best Animated Feature
THE INCREDIBLES 2

Breakthrough Performance
Thomasin McKenzie, LEAVE NO TRACE

Best Directorial Debut
Bo Burnham, EIGHTH GRADE

Best Foreign Language Film
COLD WAR

Best Documentary
RBG

Best Ensemble
CRAZY RICH ASIANS

William K. Everson Film History Award
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WIND and THEY’LL LOVE ME WHEN I’M DEAD

NBR Freedom of Expression Award
22 JULY

NBR Freedom of Expression Award
ON HER SHOULDERS

Top Films (in alphabetical order)

The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Black Panther
Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Eighth Grade
First Reformed
If Beale Street Could Talk
Mary Poppins Returns
A Quiet Place
Roma
A Star Is Born

Top 5 Foreign Language Films (in alphabetical order)

Burning
Custody
The Guilty
Happy as Lazzaro
Shoplifters

Top 5 Documentaries (in alphabetical order)

Crime + Punishment
Free Solo
Minding the Gap
Three Identical Strangers
Won’t You Be My Neighbor?

Top 10 Independent Films (in alphabetical order)

The Death of Stalin
Lean on Pete
Leave No Trace
Mid90s
The Old Man & the Gun
The Rider
Searching
Sorry to Bother You
We the Animals
You Were Never Really Here

Best Foreign Language Film
COLD WAR

Best Documentary
RBG

Best Ensemble
CRAZY RICH ASIANS

hell of a hat trick

Best Film
GREEN BOOK

hell of a shat brick

I didn't know there was a word for such happiness!

damn i meant to predict that

Jeffwey Wells will cream himself, if that's still possible

I daren't admit that I prefer Green Book to A Star is Born.

dasn't you?

i just feel like reminding Eric of a film that won 3 Golden Globes for acting:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073766/awards

I debated whether I should wait for a screener or pay to watch goddamn Green Book tomorrow night.

Best Supporting Actor - Motion Picture
Richard Benjamin

Legitimately more laughable than Pia Zadora.

do not pay to see green book xp

^^^^^^ this, let your most elderly relative buy your ticket this holiday season

i have no plans to see Green Book EVER

Benjamin's good, i just watched it again

(he's in it more than Burns tho)

Viggo basically plays @nycguidovoice personified in Green Book.

izzat some twitter celeb?

I had a visceral, must-flee, "John Simon every time he laid eyes on Liza Minnelli" reaction to every scene Benjamin appeared in.

howbout Goodbye Columbus?

re morbs:

I neva meant ta say anyting dat was racialist [burping up sauce] I respect all races and people [more pasta barf] POCs are *kissing fingers*

— nYC Guido Voice (@nycguidovoice) March 12, 2017

Can confirm, this is the Twitter account Viggo Mortensen plays in Green Book.

so what is the arthouse horse this year, say for the NYFCC (tomorrow?)

i guess NY will go either Roma, Beale St or First Reformed?

Nice to see The Guilty mentioned :)

I don’t trust the NYFCC anymore, in the wake of their La La Land best pic citation.

The Guilty is OK sub-Hitchcock suspense.

some crix group will pick Binoche as best actress I hope

Maybe something fringe and highly unofficial (in the best possible sense) like the Muriels, maybe.

every generation gets the Driving Miss Daisy it deserves, I guess

I don’t trust the NYFCC anymore, in the wake of their La La Land best pic citation.

― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:29 PM (two hours ago)

that one bothered me too, but their choices are often better than those of the other end-of-year film critics groups

saw The Rider last night, enjoyed it more than I thought I would

not sure why NBR is making a distinction between 'films' and 'independent films'

The Rider is fine, so is Lean on Pete, perfectly decent platonic equine movies.

xps I know; and virtually every critics' org has had their year of major embarrassment in the top award (e.g. Nat'l Society opting for Capote)

def preferred Lean On Pete, w/ surly Buscemi and resigned Sevigny plus the horror of LoP's exit

Mark Harris goes all in on Green Book: https://www.vulture.com/2018/11/green-book-flopped-but-who-was-it-supposed-to-be-for.html

Another movie might have explored Don’s costumed hauteur from within, understanding it as a defense, a calculation, even a performance. (The real Shirley was also a psychologist, a fact about which Green Book expresses virtually no interest.) But this film uses his remoteness geometrically; it’s one point on a triangle, exactly as far from the apex that represents a warm and human ideal as the other point — Tony’s unregenerate coarseness and frank racism — is. Green Book sometimes feels less imagined than measured with a protractor. Tony needs to stop referring to black people as “jungle bunnies,” but also Don needs to stop saying highfalutin things like, “It is my feeling that your diction, however charming it may be in the tristate area, could use some finessing.” Tony needs to broaden his horizons and learn how to write his wife a nice letter (he ends up taking dictation, Cyrano-style, from Don, who naturally has nobody to write nice letters to), but also Don needs to learn to enjoy fried chicken and Aretha Franklin and be more comfortable in his skin. Tony needs to grow up (because racism is, in movies like Green Book, primarily a sign of immaturity), but also Don needs to loosen up; he’s so constricted that he owns a chess set with only white pieces! Tony needs to get a little smarter, but also Don is too smart, like Obama was. “It don’t look fun to be that smart,” Tony — so unrefined yet so observant about deeper truths! — writes home. (Don didn’t need to help him with that sentence.)

Jeffrey Wells looks with alarm at the failure for Green Book (and Widows and The Front Runner and others) to make any kind of significant bank: http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2018/11/dropping-like-flies/

The concern of the moment is that recently opened critical and film-festival favorites (Widows, Green Book, Boy Erased, The Front Runner, Can You Ever Forgive Me?, Beautiful Boy) are underperforming or limping along while generic family-friendly sludge movies (Ralph Breaks the Internet, Creed II, Dr. Seuss’ The Grinch, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Bohemian Rhapsody, Instant Family, A Star Is Born) are making all the dough.

The general social-pledge attitude of the moviegoing audience used to be that (a) they would pay to see low-rent, mass-appeal popcorn fare (horror, CG-driven, superheroes, stupid comedies) all through the winter, spring, summer and early fall, but that (b) they’d willingly shift gears and pay to see prestigious, well-reviewed, award-contending movies in November and December.

The new general attitude seems to be “fuck the prestige human-drama movies…we’ll watch them on Netflix or Amazon when they come around in three or four months.” Even in the case of a feel-good flick like Green Book, which audiences are completely in love with (I heard yesterday that it got a standing ovation in Hartford from a regular paying audience)…even with Green Book they seem to be going “ehh, well, maybe not…I can wait.”

(I'd argue that Green Book and The Front Runner more than meet the standards for being tagged "sludge," as well.)

I'm sort of amazed Green Book is flopping. Things actually do change sometimes!

Boy Erased has made $1.5 million on 672 screens, hardly a flop.

and I'm not sure Green Book can be called a flop yet. It still has plenty of white Academy members and old people to charm.

Pls, let me hope that the days of feel-good racism movies are over.

Sadly, I'd sooner believe Wells' basic argument that basically any non-franchise, non-jukebox movie is doomed at the box office going forward than I'd accept Harris's argument that audiences are wising up to white savior movies.

Another non-fan of Green Book ... this time, a relative of Dr. Shirley.

https://shadowandact.com/green-book-is-full-of-lies-dr-don-shirleys-family-speaks-out

"I think to consistently see our stories and our Black icons filtered through the lens of a racist white person like Tony Lip does nothing to advance the understanding of Black history and only serves to perpetuate white supremacy.”

sorry i guess nyfcc aint til tomorrow

pic.twitter.com/I0fdsF3URw

— Peter Labuza (@labuzamovies) November 27, 2018

Turn on your notifications for @Sidney_Falco on Twitter!

I'd hate to take a bite outta him

You're a cookie laced with aspic.

Special Award: David Schwartz, stepping down as Chief Film Curator at Museum of the Moving Image after 33 years #NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney_Falco) November 29, 2018

Special Award: Kino Classics Box Set “Pioneers: First Women Filmmakers” #NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney_Falco) November 29, 2018

(I'm told the critic who's been in the news the last could days is a no-show.)

Best First Film: Eighth Grade (Bo Burnham) #NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney_Falco) November 29, 2018

someday i'll tell the story of how KJB may have made David Schwartz's leaving easier

Best Foreign Language Film: Cold War (Pawel Pawlikowski) #NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney_Falco) November 29, 2018

Which seconds NBR's choice.

A good film but can think of at least three or four better ones...Shoplifters, Border, and, of course, Roma

— J Don Birnam (@jdonbirnam) November 29, 2018

"of course"

even just from the TIFF program notes it was obvious awards fodder

Its advantage over its other B&W criticbait competition Roma: it's way shorter.

Best Non-Fiction Film: Minding the Gap (Bing Liu) #NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney_Falco) November 29, 2018

That will draw a HUHHHH? from Hollywood Shitwhere

Looks incredibly light to me, but then again, so was the likely other front runner (Mr. Rogers)

when i saw this title i assumed it was a DVD extra

Best Non-Fiction Film: Minding the Gap (Bing Liu) #NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney_Falco) November 29, 2018

sorry, THIS one

Best Animated Film: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (Bob Persichetti, Peter Ramsey, Rodney Rothman) #NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney_Falco) November 29, 2018

Figured that’s what you meant.

i guess Stan Lee pushed that one over the top? or new members are MCU dorks

Or there were no other viable candidates.

Side note: Bo Burnham has basically swept the table on first film at this (very early) stage.

could be... i don't think ive seen any animateds this year. xp

Did Mirai come out in the US this year? Because that should basically win all the awards.

Apparently comes out here tomorrow.

i guess the only first features i've seen that are nearly as good as 8G are Wildlife and Summer 1993.

I'm getting Roma feelings (I guess it can win best film and not foreign film? cuz hey)

bcz

Best Cinematography: Roma (Alfonso Cuarón) #NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney_Falco) November 29, 2018

23 minutes... bathroom break for Rex Reed?

Best Supporting Actor: Richard E. Grant / Can You Ever Forgive Me? #NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney_Falco) November 29, 2018

NYFC loving a NY performance shockah.

He deserves consideration, though

hooray for the aging alkie queers

*raises hand*

Beale St is mostly set in NYC

I know Uhlich loved it

screens here next week

I'm seeing Annie Stark won supporting actress for The Wife

Best Supporting Actress: Regina King / If Beale Street Could Talk #NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney_Falco) November 29, 2018

that's funny, there's a tweet from Falco Ink in the #NYFCC feed 15m ago that said Annie Starke, I guess a joke

OK, that one feels like an Oscar win sealed at this point.

Best Actor: Timothee Chalamet/Beautiful Boy#NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney__Falco) November 29, 2018

oh shit

And that one feels like an Oscar win that's absolutely not going to happen.

Second year in a row for him tho.

they think he's a beautiful boy at this point

pretty sure i passed Tim coming out of the men's room in Lincoln Center a couple months ago

tall, tossed his hair back

I hope you didn't grab the peach.

how long did it take for you to go back in?

NYFCC is always a rough day for me, American Hustle apologist.

— Chris Feil (@chrisvfeil) November 29, 2018

Sure, NYFCC went nuts for AMERICAN HUSTLE in 2013, but do you know what LACFA thought the best movie of the year was in 2011? THE DESCENDANTS.

— Morgan Leigh Davies (@MLDavies) November 29, 2018

he was coming out, i was going in

not interested til he starts shaving

xp is this BA tweet also a joke

didn't Chalamet receive the award from them last year?

Best Actor: Ethan Hawke / First Reformed #NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney_Falco) November 29, 2018

Best Actor: Ethan Hawke / First Reformed #NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney_Falco) November 29, 2018

that's more like it

Did someone legitimately hack their account?

hell yeah

Ah, I get it; there's a double underscore in the fake account's name.

thought KJB musta hacked it

Falco Ink @Sidney__Falco
7 minutes ago
Best Actress: Kristen Stewart/Jeremiah Terminator LeRoy/Lizzie #NYFCC

Think they just gave up.

if that's the level of their imagination, sure

Hawke is gonna be one of those narratives where he sweeps the critics groups and somehow doesn't even get a nomination.

— 🌲 Mister Jackpocket ❄️ (@brendanowicz) November 29, 2018

if the Oscars trick ordinary hicks into seeing First Reformed, there will be Tree of Life-style demands for refunds

this is not the Oscar thread, schlubs

ie bet on Green Book

and you've tricked me in talking about the motherfucking Oscars xp

ie who cares if he gets a nomination; badge of honor

Best Actress: Regina Hall / Support the Girls #NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney_Falco) November 29, 2018

Here's the surprise we were waiting for.

banner year for Reginas

damn!

She was on my short list for best of the year.

I am so on board for this win!

don't understand the love for Support the Girls at all - bottom of the barrel festival dreck

Movie's OK, she's superb

victorious Reginas

Yeah, NYFCC has been as good as any crix awards body in awarding performances IN SPITE of the surrounding films.

That right there may end up being the climax of detrius season, folks.

Jeffwey Wells will be outraged

Best Screenplay: First Reformed (Paul Schrader) #NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney_Falco) November 29, 2018

double fuck yeah

we'll be seeing Hawk and Schrader's script tag teaming for a few weeks more

This is all leading up to one big Alfred tantrum when Roma takes best picture.

nice

easy call there for NYC

Hawke and Schrader are both doing the NY MoMA screening of the film tonight

(i will be on the floor above watching silent comedies)

Best Director: Alfonso Cuarón / Roma #NYFCC

— New York Film Critics Circle (@nyfcc) November 29, 2018

I'd rend my garments but it's 64 in Miami.

Deadlocked between Roma and First Reformed, Rex Reed breaks the tie in favor of Green Book.

Best Film: Roma #NYFCC

— Falco Ink (@Sidney_Falco) November 29, 2018

Jesus, that feels like first-ballot wins on both.

Deadlocked between Roma and First Reformed, Rex Reed shows a photo of his performance in Myra Breckinridge.

I knew it

I haven't watched Roma yet, but that feels like the solid-est NYFCC winner slate in many years.

Also, I am reasonably certain that none of that top 6 outside of Regina King will turn into an awards season steamroller.

I put that in print so I could ruefully quote it downthread in two months.

Also, I am reasonably certain that none of that top 6 outside of Regina King will turn into an awards season steamroller.

― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.),

Wait -- don't you meant the opposite? Grant, Hawke, Schrader, etc will come up again, King won't.

I meant after the crix awards have had their say. I don't see that group making an unbroken streak of wins during the Golden Globes/BFCA/Oscar portion of our tour.

I actually do see Regina King making a pretty clean sweep though.

Most importantly, A Star Is Born shut the fuck out!

yes, that makes sense xxpost

white ppl gonna hafta deal with knowing their Reginas

speaking of J Wells:

Best Actress: Regina Hall, Support The Girls. HE response: Who?

he's all "it's Glenn Close's turn"

It can still be her turn at the Oscars. Especially if the critics groups continue to leave the middlebrow field open to her.

slooooowly i turn....

... kvetch by kvetch

we're rehearsing for our Sunshine Boys production already?

Apparently the closest calls the whole meeting were First Reformed for picture (which, surprising given the speed it was announced) and Yuen for supporting actor.

Yuen can be my Best Support.

He's very compelling and sexy. The role ultimately bored me.

nothing for the Elephant Sitting Down? unbelievable.

yeah, A Star is Born was shut out.

To think this was the event that used to start up the detrius threads.

John Waters' Top 10 in Artform: https://www.artforum.com/print/201810/john-waters-77686

jfc

I actually do want to see The Green Fog. The others range from sounding potentially rewarding (Let it Fall), to interesting-sounding-in-theory (Jeannette) to yucky Mom and Dad).

Also, its maybe a little surprising that Waters didn't really go for Boots Riley's grotesque, hysterical Sorry to Bother You but I'm guessing that received too much acclaim for his liking.

John is otm re: Soller's Point & Blindspotting

Also, its maybe a little surprising that Waters didn't really go for Boots Riley's grotesque, hysterical Sorry to Bother You but I'm guessing that received too much acclaim for his liking.

― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Sunday, December 2, 2018 7:34 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh please, he's a populist. the movie just wasn't that good

As the recently-bumped poll thread on Waters' picks from earlier years reminded me (after I posted here), this is true. This year's list just looked particularly obscure in a way that I suspected was willful.

Sollers Point is terrific.

check out his previous film I Used to Be Darker if you haven't. and Putty Hill (starring Sky Ferreira 👀)

xxp this year was its own peculiar brand of cinematic suckitude

I don't particularly believe in "weak years." More people are souring on trad linear narratives, bcz as I've noticed for awhile, It's All Been Done.

KJB will be happy that someone else liked the Nico movie. Waters has an extra spot open now since there won't be any more Woody Allen films.

More people critics are souring on trad linear narratives, bcz Bohemian Rhapsody.

Since we have to wait until next Sunday for LAFCA, here's some highlights from Detroit's critics awards:

PICTURE: Eighth Grade
DIRECTOR: Adam McCay
ACTOR: Ethan Hawke
ACTRESS: Toni Collette
SUP ACTOR: Josh Hamilton (Eighth Grade)
SUP ACTRESS: Regina King
DOC: Three Identical Strangers
SCREENPLAY: Green Book; Vice (tie)

Eighth Grade as best film is friggin' hysteria

More people are souring on the sound era, bcz Bohemian Rhapsody.

More notably, David Ehrl1ch's annual top 25 countdown montage: https://vimeo.com/304064569

Fucking VICE.

Eighth Grade is, as someone said, Todd Solondz w/out the disturbing misanthropy (that saves his films... some of them, anyway)

This is the first moment to give me hope that Ethan Hawke is sweeping it all.

I think almost everyone said Eighth Grade is Todd Solondz without the misanthropy.

well no wonder it stuck with me then

Eighth Grade is, as someone said, Todd Solondz w/out the disturbing misanthropy (that saves his films... some of them, anyway)

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Mo

hence my liking it (not more than that)

10 awards for The Favourite

https://www.bifa.film/news/winners-2018/

I'd rather hate a movie than like it.

has anyone here actually seen VICE yet?

I told the PR person who organized the screening two weeks ago that I had the mumps

should have told them someone shot you in the face imho

Atlanta, dear god:

1. THE FAVOURITE
2. A STAR IS BORN
3. ROMA
4. A QUIET PLACE
5. FIRST REFORMED
6. EIGHTH GRADE
7. BLACKkKLANSMAN
8. Tie: FIRST MAN
WON’T YOU BE MY NEIGHBOR?
10. BLACK PANTHER

Atlanta Film Critics Circle Awards:

Best Lead Actor
Ethan Hawke in FIRST REFORMED

Best Lead Actress
Olivia Colman in THE FAVOURITE

Best Supporting Actor
Sam Elliott in A STAR IS BORN

Best Supporting Actress
Emma Stone in THE FAVOURITE

Best Ensemble Cast
THE FAVOURITE

I can't abide A Quiet Place getting the "it's this year's Get Out" treatment.

Having The Other Side of the Wind, Eight Hours Don't Make a Day, and Ganja and Hess eligible for 2018 lists is some brutal blood-on-the-walls ringer shit, Globetrotters vs. Washington Generals.

— 𝕿𝖗𝖔𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖊 𝕰𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖞 𝕯𝖆𝖞 (@NickPinkerton) November 30, 2018

I'd rather hate a movie than like it.

― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, December 3, 2018 11:37 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I generally just assume this is true for virtually everyone in this thread.

Hadn't thought of Sam Elliott for Best Supporting Actor, but it makes sense if this carries over to the Oscars.

The part was made for awards. Would've preferred him getting recognition for his co-star role in that Blythe Danner film from 2016.

could also be make-up for his overlooked lead in The Hero last year

these are Sam's lifetime achievement honors

yeah

is Flea getting any attention for his role in Boy Erased? shit movie but he was good

Also, its maybe a little surprising that Waters didn't really go for Boots Riley's grotesque, hysterical Sorry to Bother You but I'm guessing that received too much acclaim for his liking.

oh please, he's a populist. the movie just wasn't that good

it's v v Watersy. though what he made 38 years ago isn't necessarily what he wants to see now

putting American Animals on at all, let alone so high, makes one suspect he only saw 11 films this year

Adrian Martin's top 5 cinephile "things" for 2018:

https://filmalert101.blogspot.com/2018/12/defending-cinephilia-2019-adrian-martin.html

Cahiers du cinema's top 10:

01. “The Wild Boys” (Bertrand Mandico)
02. “Coincoin and the Extra-Humans” (Bruno Dumont)
03. “Phantom Thread” (Paul Thomas Anderson)
04. “Burning” (Lee Chang-dong)
05. “Paul Sanchez est revenu.” (Patricia Mazuy)
06. “The Post” (Steven Spielberg)
07. “On the Beach at Night Alone” (Hong Sang-soo)
08. “The House That Jack Built” (Lars von Trier)
09. “Leto” (Kirill Serebrennikov)
10. “Treasure Island” (Guillaume Brac)

“The Wild Boys” is real annoying pansexual crap.

what annoyed you other than the Duran allusion?

ugh Dumont

The Post?? lmfao

did anybody see Burning? I missed its run here - how stupid should I feel?

thought Dumont's Life of Jesus, Flanders, Slack Bay were all really good

and especially Humanité

Yes, looking forward to Coincoin and the Joan of Arc musical, if either of them ever get any kind of UK release.

Burning is overrated

Dumont est merde

why are you laughing at the Greatest Filmmaker, flappy?

did anybody see Burning? I missed its run here - how stupid should I feel?

― flappy bird,

It's good, despite a muddle of an ending.

agreed. but it wouldn't make my top 10 I don't think

The Indiana Film Journalists Association (IFJA) have announced their nominations representing the best in film for 2018. The winners will be announced tomorrow.

Click below to see the nominations.
BEST PICTURE
Annihilation
Avengers: Infinity War
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Ben Is Back
Black Panther
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
Chappaquiddick
Crazy Rich Asians
Eighth Grade
The Favourite
First Man
First Reformed
Green Book
The Hate U Give
Hearts Beat Loud
Lean on Pete
Leave No Trace
The Long Dumb Road
Love, Simon
Madeline’s Madeline
Paddington 2
A Quiet Place
Ready Player One
The Rider
Roma
Stan & Ollie
A Star Is Born
Suspiria
Tully
The Wife
You Were Never Really Here

BEST ANIMATED FILM
Incredibles 2
Isle of Dogs
Mirai

BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
1945
Border
Capernaum
Cold War
The Guilty
Roma
A Sublime Life

BEST DOCUMENTARY
Andre the Giant
Dead Man's Line: The True Story of Tony Kiritsis
Free Solo
Itzhak
Minding the Gap
On Her Shoulders
RBG
Satan and Adam
Three Identical Strangers
Won’t You Be My Neighbor?
​
BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Andrew Bujalski, "Support the Girls"
Bo Burnham, “Eighth Grade”
Diablo Cody, “Tully”
Joel & Ethan Coen, “The Ballad of Buster Scruggs”
Deborah Davis and Tony McNamara, "The Favourite"
Hannah Fidell & Carson D. Mell, “The Long Dumb Road”
Cory Finley, “Thoroughbreds”
Brett Haley and Marc Basch, “Hearts Beat Loud”
Peter Hedges, "Ben Is Back"
Tamara Jenkins, “Private Life”
Sam Levinson, "Assassination Nation"
Andrew Logan and Taylor Allen, “Chappaquiddick”
Andrew McCarten, “Bohemian Rhapsody”
Paul Schrader, “First Reformed”
Nick Vallelonga, Brian Hayes Currie and Peter Farrelly, “Green Book”
Bryan Woods & Scott Beck and John Krasinski, “A Quiet Place”

BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
Ali Abbasi, John Ajvide Lindqvist, and Isabella Ekloff, “Border”
Jane Anderson, “The Wife”
Jacques Audiard and Thomas Bidegain, “The Sisters Brothers”
Elizabeth Berger and Isaac Aptaker, “Love, Simon”
Ryan Coogler and Joe Robert Cole, “Black Panther”
Debra Granik and Anne Rosellini, “Leave No Trace”
Alex Garland and Jeff VanderMeer, “Annihilation”
Andrew Haigh, “Lean on Pete”
Armando Iannucci, David Schneider, Ian Martin and Peter Fellows, “The Death of Stalin”
David Kajganich, “Suspiria”
Rebecca Lenkiewicz and Sebastián Lelio, “Disobedience”
Eric Roth, Bradley Cooper and Will Fetters, “A Star Is Born”
Josh Singer, “First Man”
Audrey Wells, “The Hate U Give”

BEST DIRECTOR
Greg Berlanti, “Love, Simon"
Bo Burnham, “Eighth Grade”
Damien Chazelle, “First Man”
Joel Coen and Ethan Coen, “The Ballad of Buster Scruggs”
Ryan Coogler, “Black Panther”
Bradley Cooper, “A Star Is Born”
Alfonso Cuarón, “Roma”
John Curran, “Chappaquiddick”
Josephine Decker, "Madeline’s Madeline"
Coralie Fargeat, “Revenge”
Peter Farrelly, “Green Book”
Hannah Fidell, “The Long Dumb Road”
Cory Finley, “Thoroughbreds”
Alex Garland, “Annihilation”
Debra Granik, “Leave No Trace”
Luca Guadagnino, “Suspiria”
Andrew Haigh, “Lean on Pete”
Brett Haley, “Hearts Beat Loud”
Peter Hedges, "Ben Is Back"
John Krasinski, “A Quiet Place”
Nadine Labaki, “Capernaum”
Spike Lee, “BlacKkKlansman”
Christopher McQuarrie, "Mission: Impossible - Fallout"
Pawel Pawlikowski, "Cold War"
Lynne Ramsay, “You Were Never Really Here”
Björn Runge, “The Wife”
Paul Schrader, “First Reformed”
Bryan Singer, “Bohemian Rhapsody”
George Tillman Jr., “The Hate U Give”
Chloe Zhao, “The Rider”

BEST ACTRESS
Yalitza Aparicio, “Roma”
Jessica Buckley, “Beast”
Glenn Close, “The Wife”
Elsie Fisher, “Eighth Grade”
Lady Gaga, “A Star Is Born”
Thomasin Harcourt McKenzie, “Leave No Trace”
Regina Hall, “Support the Girls”
Helena Howard, “Madeline’s Madeline”
Dakota Johnson, "Suspiria"
Eva Melander, "Border"
Carey Mulligan, "Wildlife"
Michelle Pfeiffer, “Where is Kyra?”
Natalie Portman, “Annihilation”
Julia Roberts, "Ben Is Back"
Amandla Stenberg, “The Hate U Give”
Emma Stone, "The Favourite"
Charlize Theron, “Tully”
Rachel Weisz, “Disobedience”
Rachel Weisz, "The Favourite"
Mary Elizabeth Winstead, “All About Nina”

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Emily Blunt, “A Quiet Place”
Kayli Carter, “Private Life”
Kiersey Clemons, “Hearts Beat Loud”
Olivia Colman, "The Favourite"
Mackenzie Davis, “Tully”
Cynthia Erivo, “Bad Times at the El Royale”
Claire Foy, “First Man”
Danai Gurira, “Black Panther”
Rachel McAdams, “Disobedience”
Millicent Simmonds, “A Quiet Place”
Tilda Swinton, “Suspiria”

BEST ACTOR
Mahershala Ali, “Green Book”
Christian Bale, "Vice"
Jakob Cedergren, “The Guilty”
John Cho, "Searching"
Jason Clarke, “Chappaquiddick”
Steve Coogan, “Stan & Ollie”
Bradley Cooper, “A Star Is Born”
Ben Foster, “Leave No Trace”
Ryan Gosling, “First Man”
Ethan Hawke, “First Reformed”
Brady Jandreau, “The Rider”
Rami Malek, “Bohemian Rhapsody”
Jason Mantzoukas, “The Long Dumb Road”
Viggo Mortensen, “Green Book”
Joaquin Phoenix, “Don’t Worry, He Won’t Get Far on Foot”
Joaquin Phoenix, “You Were Never Really Here”
Charlie Plummer, “Lean on Pete”
Jonathan Pryce, “The Wife”
John C. Reilly, “The Sisters Brothers”
John C. Reilly, “Stan & Ollie”
Tony Revolori, “The Long Dumb Road”

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Simon Russell Beale, “The Death of Stalin”
Steve Carell, "Vice"
Timothee Chalamet, “Beautiful Boy”
Adam Driver, "BlacKkKlansman"
Sam Elliott, “A Star Is Born”
Hugh Grant, “Paddington 2”
Richard E. Grant, “Can You Ever Forgive Me?”
Josh Hamilton, “Eighth Grade”
Lucas Hedges, "Ben Is Back"
Ed Helms, “Chappaquiddick”
Jonah Hill, “Don’t Worry, He Won’t Get Far on Foot”
Russell Hornsby, “The Hate U Give”
Nicholas Hoult, "The Favourite"
Michael B. Jordan, “Black Panther”
Matthew McConaughey, “White Boy Rick”
Alessandro Nivola, “Disobedience”
Jesse Plemons, “Game Night”
Jonathan Pryce, "The Wife"
Christian Slater, “The Wife”

BEST VOCAL/MOTION CAPTURE PERFORMANCE
Josh Brolin, “Avengers: Infinity War”
Bryan Cranston, “Isle of Dogs”
Tom Hiddleston, “Early Man”
Ben Whishaw, “Paddington 2”

BEST ENSEMBLE ACTING
Bad Times at the El Royale
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
Crazy Rich Asians
First Man
Hearts Beat Loud
Leave No Trace
Love, Simon
A Quiet Place
Thoroughbreds
The Wife

BEST MUSICAL SCORE
Lorne Balfe, “Mission: Impossible - Fallout”
Geoff Barrow & Ben Salisbury, “Annihilation”
Marco Beltrami, “A Quiet Place”
Nicholas Britell, "If Beale Street Could Talk"
Carter Burwell, “The Ballad of Buster Scruggs”
Erik Friedlander, “Thoroughbreds”
Ludwig Göransson, “Black Panther”
Jonny Greenwood, “You Were Never Really Here”
Nathan Halpern, “The Rider”
Ian Hultquist, “Assassination Nation”
Justin Hurwitz, “First Man”
Jóhann Jóhannsson, “Mandy”
Dario Marianelli, "Paddington 2"
Philip Miller, “Where is Kyra?”
Jocelyn Pook, “The Wife”
Max Richter, “White Boy Rick”
Rob, “Revenge”
David Shire, “Love After Love”
Alan Silvestri, “Ready Player One”
Thom Yorke, “Suspiria”

BREAKOUT OF THE YEAR
Zain Al Rafeea, “Capernaum” (actor)
Jessica Buckley, “Beast” (actress)
Coralie Fargeat, “Revenge” (writer / director)
Hannah Fidell, “The Long Dumb Road” (director / co-writer)
Cory Finley, “Thoroughbreds” (writer / director)
Elsie Fisher, “Eighth Grade” (actress)
Brady Jandreau, “The Rider” (actor)
Thomasin Harcourt McKenzie, “Leave No Trace” (actress)
Helena Howard, “Madeline’s Madeline” (actress)
Gustav Möller, “The Guilty” (director / co-writer)
Nick Robinson, “Love, Simon” (actor)
Evan Rosado, “We the Animals” (actor)
John David Washington, “BlacKkKlansman” (actor)
Chloe Zhao, “The Rider” (writer / director)

ORIGINAL VISION
Isle of Dogs
A Quiet Place
Eighth Grade
The Long Dumb Road
Madeline’s Madeline
The Rider
​Sorry to Bother You

Way to cut through the clutter there, Indiana crix.

ROMA will not be eligible for today’s AFI Awards as it is not an American Film. However, remember that THE ARTIST won a special award in 2011. Something similar could happen today. Stay tuned for the Top 10.

— Matt Neglia (@NextBestPicture) December 4, 2018

Ooooooh. Do you think?.

Excellent.

I am already detrius'ed out. Can't even bring myself to post the nominations for the Annie Awards.

obv Indiana broke you

relax with some F Troop episodes

Indiana wants me
lord I can't go back

AFI's Top 10...

“BlacKkKlansman”
“Black Panther”
“Eighth Grade”
“If Beale Street Could Talk”
“The Favourite”
“First Reformed”
“Green Book”
“Mary Poppins Returns”
“A Quiet Place”
“A Star Is Born”

not bad

I didn't, I couldn't take Oscar bloggers seriously when they started crowing about Mary Poppins 2. I should've known.

xp let's agree to disagree

I didn't see Black Panther but seems high

wtf is Mary Poppins 2

Tho I am starting to truly think the girl in Eighth Grade will land Glenn Close's slot now.

I didn't see A Quiet Place either, looked stupid. everything else on there is good. I mean, I'm assuming Beale Street is gonna be cool.

I keep getting confused between A Quiet Place and Leave No Trace. The latter is supposed to be very good.

Yes.

Mary Poppins 2 is a sequel to Mrs Doubtfire

Did you review it, Al? xp

Leave No Trace is very good

Nope, but I recommend it. I prefer it to Winter's Bone.

Leave No Trace is probably the best movie made yet about Iraq/Afghanistan PTSD

Not only have the nominations for one Golden Globes category been announced, but so has the winner!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Globe_Award_for_Best_Actress_%E2%80%93_Motion_Picture_Comedy_or_Musical

Re: The John Waters list and a few comments upthread...

Jeannette was one of the worst films I have ever seen. I don't think I have ever felt such regret at not having walked out of a movie. Everything about it is simply intolerable. Not only did I hate it but I have a hard time believing anyone could like it (I can imagine someone liking a 10-15 minute short version, but the gag stales very quickly).

I saw it because I have a thing about seeing every movie about Joan of Arc. I watched the trailer and was fairly warned. But that still didn't prepare me for the endless pain of seeing it through.

thank you for the warning!

xp that wikipedia entry is hilarious

Burning was not only good, it surprised me so much, it's stuck with me so hard, all the images, absolutely haunting performances, it's my favorite of the director's films, it may be my favorite of the year, I was stunned!

Shirkers, which is on Netflix, is going to end up being one of my favorite films of the year. An uncommonly fascinating and moving documentary.

all the many Joan of Arc films I've seen are at least good (even Rivette's), but i'm unsurprised that Dumont wd break the streak.

Shirkers, which is on Netflix, is going to end up being one of my favorite films of the year. An uncommonly fascinating and moving documentary.

― Chris L

Watching it tonighit.

NYT crix top 10s:

Manohla Dargis

01. Roma
02. Burning
03. Shoplifters
04. Zama
05. Happy As Lazzaro
06. BlacKkKlansman
07. First Reformed
08. The Death of Stalin
09. Monrovia, Indiana
10. Colophon (for the Arboretum Cycle)

A.O. Scott

01. Monrovia, Indiana; Bisbee '17; Hale County This Morning, This Evening; Minding the Gap (tie)
02. Happy As Lazzaro
03. First Reformed
04. Private Life
05. Roma
06. Let the Sunshine In
07. Can You Ever Forgive Me?
08. BlacKkKlansman
09. Capernaum
10. The Favourite

Would have rather seen A.O. Scott commit to a mostly-doc list.

Zama at last

It's on my list, whenever that gets finished (2023).

Let the Sunshine In at last

Bisbee '17 at last

Sunshine also on my list, whenever that gets finished (it won't).

Sunshine never left my list (first and last time you'll see any version of this sentence).

Oscar VFX finalists:

Ant-Man and the Wasp
Aquaman
Avengers: Infinity War
Black Panther
Bumblebee
Christopher Robin
Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald
First Man
Incredibles 2
Isle of Dog
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
Mary Poppins Returns
Mission: Impossible – Fallout
Mortal Engines
The Nutcracker and the Four Realms
Paddington 2
A Quiet Place
Ready Player One
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Welcome to Marwen

First Man
Paddington 2

burn the rest

Golden Globe noms announced in a few

They snubbed Roma in every category but foreign film! Your kinda people, Soto!

Also the line between Ethan Hawke winning everything and Ethan Hawke never getting mentioned again this detrius season.

While people are transcribing the nominations, here's one more top 10 list, from Vanity Fair's K Austin Collins:

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/12/10-best-movies-2018-k-austin-collins

#1 ... First Reformed

Robert Redford, The Old Man and the Gun

John C. Reilly, Stan & Ollie

what

Best Motion Picture – Drama

Black Panther
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
If Beale Street Could Talk
A Star Is Born

Best Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy

Crazy Rich Asians
The Favorite
Green Book
Mary Poppins Returns
Vice

Best Motion Picture – Animated

Incredibles 2
Isle of Dogs
Mirai
Ralph Breaks the Internet
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

Best Motion Picture – Foreign Language

Capernaum
Girl
Never Look Away
Roma
Shoplifters

Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture – Drama

Glenn Close, The Wife
Lady Gaga, A Star is Born
Nicole Kidman, Destroyer
Melissa McCarthy, Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Rosamund Pike, A Private War

Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture – Drama

Bradley Cooper, A Star is Born
Willem Dafoe, At Eternity's Gate
Lucas Hedges, Boy Erased
Rami Malek, Bohemian Rhapsody
John David Washington, BlacKkKlansman

Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy

Emily Blunt, Mary Poppins Returns
Olivia Colman, The Favourite
Elsie Fisher, Eighth Grade
Charlize Theron, Tully
Constance Wu, Crazy Rich Asians

Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy

Christian Bale, Vice
Lin-Manuel Miranda, Mary Poppins Returns
Viggo Mortensen, Green Book
Robert Redford, The Old Man and the Gun
John C. Reilly, Stan & Ollie

Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in any Motion Picture

Amy Adams, Vice
Claire Foy, First Man
Regina King, If Beale Street Could Talk
Emma Stone, The Favourite
Rachel Weiss, The Favourite

Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in any Motion Picture

Mahershala Ali, Green Book
Timothee Chalamet, Beautiful Boy
Richard E. Grant, Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Sam Rockwell, Vice
Adam Driver, BlacKkKlansman

Best Director – Motion Picture

Bradley Cooper, A Star is Born
Alfonso Cuaron, Roma
Peter Farrelly, Green Book
Spike Lee, BlacKkKlansman
Adam McKay, Vice

Best Screenplay – Motion Picture

Roma
The Favourite
If Beale Street Could Talk
Vice
Green Book

Best Original Score – Motion Picture

A Quiet Place
Isle Of Dogs
Black Panther
First Man
Mary Poppins Returns

Best Original Song – Motion Picture

“All The Stars,” Black Panther
“Girl in the Movies,” Dumplin’
“Requiem For A Private War,” A Private War
"Revelation," Boy Erased
“Shallow,” A Star Is Born

what

see also: Bohemian Rhapsody in best drama picture (which ensures the Globes will get way higher ratings than the Oscars this year)

(I was wrong, Roma is in two other categories.)

Best Motion Picture – Drama

Black Panther
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
If Beale Street Could Talk
A Star Is Born

FYI, A Star is Born is going to defeat four films starring non-white actors.

Chalamet and Weisz in supporting? Fabulous category fraud. Guess they figure it'll help their Oscar chances.

Glad to see Theron mentioned at least (McCarthy too).

happy to not see cold war

I saw it again on Tuesday to confirm its vaporousness.

Publicists have determined that Weisz and Stone are supporting in The Favourite and Colman is lead, instead of the other way around. Guess they think Gaga is winning either way.

by my reckoning Weisz is on screen longer than Colman, but I don't hold stopwatches up either.

I saw it again on Tuesday to confirm its vaporousness.

I admire the commitment.

A whole lot of Bs in the best drama category

haven't seen it and not a lanthimos fan, but colman's run on peep show >> basically every oscar winning performance,so glad they've gone that route

xp what I've also seen people mention in the past is that, in cases where screen time is basically equal, class/status tends to come into play, along with in Brokeback's case, top/bottom status

Seeing The Favourite tonight or tomorrow but yeah the way that literal character hierarchy has apparently translated into performance category hierarchy seems to be pretty transparent

(and hilarious)

John C. Reilly, Stan & Ollie

what

hater

(opens end of the month here)

Brody names 40... first list i've seen with The Spy Who Dumped Me on it.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/2018-in-review/the-best-movies-of-2018

That Hale County film looks v interesting.

I'm delighted to see Sollers Point showing up instead of being buried in afternoon screenings at film festivals (as it was here in March).

so Brody liked Jeannette

just saw Let the Sunshine In. feel like I need to see it again

John C Reilly's makeup wattles playing old Oliver Hardy look like they could store lunch for the entire shoot

Alm0nd has no time for any of the AFI top 10: https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/american-film-institute-top-films-2018-list-bad-judgment/amp/

I’ll save you the click:

It’s the first week of December and the nation’s countless, overeager awards groups have already begun parceling out their year-end encomiums. They kowtow to Hollywood, obviously without having seen all the films yet to be released in 2018 — only movies that the big studios from Disney to Netflix have already decided are award-worthy.

The most egregious of these early-starters is the American Film Institute, which rushed the awards race with its 10 Best choices, sprinting out of the gate before a couple of the listed movies have even opened in theaters. The problem is that movies no longer have a chance to register in the culture or to become beloved or reviled by the public. It’s the case of yet another institution, based in Hollywood or D.C. (the AFI has feet in both), making decisions for the rest of us, indifferent to our participation.

The AFI began 51 years ago, after a Johnson-administration call for an organization committed to preserving America’s film heritage. It was originally funded by the National Endowment for the Arts, the Motion Picture Association of America, and the Ford Foundation, so its list sounds official. But the movie awards game is part of the commercialization of pop culture.

Even the debatable idea that the government should finance artists (through any means) is belied by the endorsement of commercialism rather than artistic expression. Be assured, there’s a political component to this: The films that won the AFI’s approval are all politically motivated and represent social-justice precepts rather than moral virtues or aesthetic standards. In other words, they’re propaganda.

Listed alphabetically, the AFI films assume the same values that are promoted in politically biased mainstream media; the list resembles an index for Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals.

BlacKkKlansman. In this clumsy race satire, “ridicule is man’s most important weapon” — Alinsky’s Rule 5. Spike Lee distorts a black-police-informer (and real-life race-traitor) tale about infiltrating the Ku Klux Klan and then uses slanted documentary footage to incite resistance to the current administration.

Black Panther. This Marvel Comics adaptation works from the idea that “a good tactic is one your people enjoy,” as Alinksy’s Rule 6 states. The black Millennial audience is exploited, its childlike need for empowerment used against it by replacing historical fact and learning with fantasy.

Eighth Grade. By assuming a teenager’s perspective, writer-director Bo Burnham follows Rule 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people” (the clueless market, in this case). With this approach, he makes the idea of “girl power” maudlin.

If Beale Street Could Talk. Using a minor James Baldwin novel to “go outside the expertise of the enemy” (Rule 3), Barry Jenkins’s white-guilt collage mixes romance with prison reform, religious mockery, and other topical targets. His Baldwinetics fake African-American authenticity.

The Favourite. Through this perverse Anglophilic tale, America’s inferiority complex manages to “maintain constant pressure upon the opposition” (Rule 10). By fostering contempt and scandal, the filmmakers show contempt for the audience.

First Reformed. Here, religious skepticism is the means of carrying out Rule 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” So Ethan Hawke’s manic Calvinist minister is radicalized, becoming a crazed eco-terrorist without faith or redemption.

Green Book. The relationship between a straight white bigot and a gay black artiste dishes up a trite lesson in brotherhood, by which the racist “threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself” (Rule 9). Everyone is patronized.

Mary Poppins Returns. Moviegoers are forced to endure remake/reboot mania as Hollywood’s dominant form of indoctrination, proving that “a tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag” (Rule 7).

A Quiet Place. This insipid horror film retread, based on the premise that “power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have” (Rule 1), inspired the fallacious label “Smart Horror.” Fanboys, beware.

A Star Is Born. The latest showbiz shell game follows the command to “never go outside the expertise of your people” (Rule 2), thus inspiring more celebrity worship.

Roma. Boutique neorealism in this Mexican import, which won a “Special Award” from AFI, owing to its foreign-language status, helps “keep the pressure on” (Rule 8). Its pathetic “humanitarian crisis” is uncannily in tune with the Caravan vs. Invasion canard now favored by media and open-borders politicians.

It’s obvious from this roll call that the AFI committee is not a group of adventurous filmseekers. (As critic John Demetry responded: “Two Emily Blunt movies!”) The Special Award to Alfonso Cuaron’s Roma reveals ignorance of movie history plus an irresistible urge to conflate political sentiment and artistic objectives. American film culture has reached a point where propaganda has become a goal even while its shameless obviousness goes largely unrecognized.

The AFI list shares a certain smugness with AFI alum Paul Schrader’s recent tirade against the contemporary film audience: “It’s not that us filmmakers are letting you down, it’s you audiences that are letting us down.” Ralph Waldo Emerson’s maxim “Tis the good reader that makes the good book” is offended by these “official” statements on movie quality and film perception. The AFI’s hastiness forces elite political preferences over the public’s intellectual, spiritual, and aesthetic needs.

These insidious “entertainments” destabilize U.S. culture. The rush to proclaim a 2018 movie canon without even a brief test of any film’s probable worth is merely another example of the industry’s habit of deception. Can anyone clean up this intellectual swamp?

he's right that the Spike joint is clumsy

but they often are

a Spike joint that isn't clumsy is a Trump rally without LOCK HER UP

His Baldwinetics fake African-American authenticity.

He's become a bad writer who won't get the copy editing he needs.

Update! According to Deadline, THIS is the most wide-open Oscar race in years. Forget those other years, THIS IS THE ONE. https://t.co/DxEJIN9rX5 https://t.co/ohGKGA0toV

— Mark Blankenship (@IAmBlankenship) December 6, 2018

I even started the Oscars thread for you.

I'm so happy you're happy.

For me?! Oh how nice of you!

How nice for Eve. How nice for everybody.

LAFCA is this Sunday and Boston (who awarded Phantom Thread last year) the next Sunday. But here are Chicago's way too many nominations:

BEST PICTURE
The Favourite
First Reformed
Hereditary
Roma
A Star is Born

BEST DIRECTOR
Bradley Cooper, A Star is Born
Alfonso Cuarón, Roma
Yorgos Lanthimos, The Favourite
Lynne Ramsay, You Were Never Really Here
Paul Schrader, First Reformed

BEST ACTOR
Christian Bale, Vice
Bradley Cooper, A Star is Born
Ethan Hawke, First Reformed
Rami Malek, Bohemian Rhapsody
Joaquin Phoenix, You Were Never Really Here

BEST ACTRESS
Yalitza Aparicio, Roma
Toni Collette, Hereditary
Lady Gaga, A Star is Born
Regina Hall, Support the Girls
Melissa McCarthy, Can You Ever Forgive Me?

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Mahershala Ali, Green Book
Timothee Chalamet, Beautiful Boy
Richard E. Grant, Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Michael B. Jordan, Black Panther
Steven Yeun, Burning

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Olivia Colman, The Favourite
Elizabeth Debicki, Widows
Zoe Kazan, The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Regina King, If Beale Street Could Talk
Rachel Weisz, The Favourite

BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
BlacKkKlansman by Charlie Wachtel, David Rabinowitz, Kevin Willmott & Spike Lee
Can You Ever Forgive Me? by Nicole Holofcener & Jeff Whitty
The Death of Stalin by Armando Iannucci, David Schneider & Ian Martin
If Beale Street Could Talk by Barry Jenkins
A Star is Born by Eric Roth, Bradley Cooper & Will Fetters

BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Eighth Grade by Bo Burnham
The Favourite by Deborah Davis & Tony McNamara
First Reformed by Paul Schrader
Roma by Alfonso Cuaron
Vice by Adam McKay

BEST ANIMATED FEATURE
Incredibles 2
Isle of Dogs
Ralph Breaks the Internet
Ruben Brandt: Collector
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-verse

BEST DOCUMENTARY
Free Solo
Minding the Gap
RBG
Three Identical Strangers
Won’t You Be My Neighbor?

BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
Burning
Capernaum
Cold War
Roma
Shoplifters

BEST ART DIRECTION
Annihilation
Black Panther
The Favourite
Paddington 2
Roma

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
Cold War – Lukasz Zal
The Favourite – Robbie Ryan
First Man – Linus Sandgren
If Beale Street Could Talk – James Laxton
Roma – Alfonso Cuaron

BEST EDITING
First Man
The Other Side of the Wind
Roma
Widows
You Were Never Really Here

BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
First Man – Justin Hurwitz
If Beale Street Could Talk – Nicholas Britell
Mandy – Johan Johannson
Suspiria – Thom Yorke
You Were Never Really Here – Jonny Greenwood

BEST USE OF VISUAL EFFECTS
Annihilation
Black Panther
First Man
Mission: Impossible – Fallout
Paddington 2

MOST PROMISING FILMMAKER
Ari Aster, Hereditary
Bo Burnham, Eighth Grade
Bradley Cooper, A Star is Born
Bing Liu, Minding the Gap
Boots Riley, Sorry to Bother You

MOST PROMISING PERFORMER
Yalitza Aparicio, Roma
Elsie Fisher, Eighth Grade
Lady Gaga, A Star is Born
Thomasin Harcourt McKenzie, Leave No Trace
John David Washington, BlacKkKlansman & Monsters and Men

Steven Yeun, Burning

at last

I'm glad they remembered Joaquin; otherwise, that Best Actor lineup is pretty much what we'll expect through February, isn't it?

Mortensen will sub for Phoenix later.

how nice that Wiseman and Bisbee '17 are falling short of the RBG and Rogers documentary cults

nice to see Hereditary get a Picture nod

Maybe I'm looking only at lists selectively, but I've seen Monrovia and Bisbee on way more lists than RBG, at least.

and nothing for the well intentioned but perfunctory Love, Gilda (Radner)

did anyone subject themselves to Mr Rogers Film

millions!

I can't.

me neither, the trailer was enough

happy to see that Burning is still playing here, excited to check it out next week

The Mr. Rogers movie is a perfectly fine DVD bonus feature.

on the Rosemary's Baby Criterion edition

Worth noting that in LAFCC gave its Best Actress trophy to Yoon Jeong-hee for Poetry, another Lee film.

*in 2011

loved that film and the performance

LAFCA is doing their thing.

Best Editing, Winner: Joshua Altman and Bing Liu, MINDING THE GAP (Runner-up: Alfonso Cuarón and Adam Gough, ROMA)
Best Production Design, Winner: Hannah Beachler, BLACK PANTHER (Runner-up: Fiona Crombie, THE FAVOURITE)
Best Supporting Actor, Winner: Steven Yeun, BURNING (Runner-up: Hugh Grant, PADDINGTON 2)
Best Music/Score, Winner: Nicholas Britell, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK (Runner-up: Justin Hurwitz, FIRST MAN)
Best Cinematography, Winner: Alfonso Cuaron, ROMA (Runner-up: James Laxton, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK)

The Douglas Edwards Experimental Film Award will be given to Evan Johnson, Galen Johnson and Guy Maddin's THE GREEN FOG
Best Animation, Winner: SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE. (Runner-up: INCREDIBLES 2)
Best Actress, Winner: Olivia Colman, THE FAVOURITE (Runner-up: Toni Collette, HEREDITARY)
Best Supporting Actress, Winner: Regina King, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK (Runner-up: Elizabeth Debicki, WIDOWS)

Category fraud!

so:
NY Film Critics - Best Picture: “Roma”
LA Film Critics - Best Picture: “Roma”
Toronto Film Critics - Best Picture: “Roma”
SF Film Critics - Best Picture: “Roma”
Chicago Film Critics - Best Picture: “Roma”
Philadelphia Film Critics - Best Picture: “Roma”
NY Film Critics Online - Best Picture: “Roma”

kind of tedious

Cuaron has learned the secret: no digitally tweaked car chases

instead, he digitally tweaks boring memories

Full final LAFCA awards...

Best Picture: Roma
Runner-up: Burning

Best Director: Debra Granik – Leave No Trace
Runner-up: Alfonso Cuarón – Roma

Best Actor: Ethan Hawke – First Reformed
Runner-up: Ben Foster – Leave No Trace

Best Actress: Olivia Colman – The Favourite
Runner-up: Toni Collette – Hereditary

Best Supporting Actor: Steven Yeun – Burning
Runner-up: Hugh Grant – Paddington 2

Best Supporting Actress: Regina King – If Beale Street Could Talk
Runner-up: Elizabeth Debicki – Widows

Best Screenplay: Nicole Holofcener and Jeff Whitty – Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Runner-up: Deborah Davis and Tony McNamara – The Favourite

Best Cinematography: Alfonso Cuarón – Roma
Runner-up: James Laxton – If Beale Street Could Talk

Best Editing: Joshua Altman and Bing Liu – Minding the Gap
Runner-up: Alfonso Cuarón and Adam Gough – Roma

Best Production Design: Hannah Beachler – Black Panther
Runner-up: Fiona Crombie – The Favourite

Best Music Score: Nicholas Britell – If Beale Street Could Talk
Runner-up: Justin Hurwitz – First Man

Best Foreign Language Film: (TIE) Burning • South Korea & Shoplifters • Japan

Best Documentary/Non-Fiction Film: Shirkers
Runner-up: Minding the Gap

Best Animation: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Runner-up: Incredibles 2

New Generation Award: Chloé Zhao

Career Achievement Award: Hayao Miyazaki

The Douglas Edwards Experimental/Independent Film/Video Award: Evan Johnson, Galen Johnson and Guy Maddin – The Green Fog

Special Citation: The Other Side of the Wind

Roma as emergent consensus fave is awfully boring.

Steven YUM more like

Yeun/Grant is a nice supporting actor pairing, I must say

After watching Paddington 2 last weekend in a catch-up session, I'll agree.

What are the big bear films this year?

And now we arrive at the nadir of detrius, the Oscar-nomination predictions from BFCA, who also throw in predictions for the People's Choice Awards in the bargain:

BEST PICTURE
“Black Panther”
“BlacKkKlansman”
“The Favourite”
“First Man”
“Green Book”
“If Beale Street Could Talk”
“Mary Poppins Returns”
“Roma”
“A Star Is Born”
“Vice”

BEST ACTOR
Christian Bale – “Vice”
Bradley Cooper – “A Star Is Born”
Willem Dafoe – “At Eternity’s Gate”
Ryan Gosling – “First Man”
Ethan Hawke – “First Reformed”
Rami Malek – “Bohemian Rhapsody”
Viggo Mortensen – “Green Book”

BEST ACTRESS
Yalitza Aparicio – “Roma”
Emily Blunt – “Mary Poppins Returns”
Glenn Close – “The Wife”
Toni Collette – “Hereditary”
Olivia Colman – “The Favourite”
Lady Gaga – “A Star Is Born”
Melissa McCarthy – “Can You Ever Forgive Me?”

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Mahershala Ali – “Green Book”
Timothée Chalamet – “Beautiful Boy”
Adam Driver – “BlacKkKlansman”
Sam Elliott – “A Star Is Born”
Richard E. Grant – “Can You Ever Forgive Me?”
Michael B. Jordan – “Black Panther”

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Amy Adams – “Vice”
Claire Foy – “First Man”
Nicole Kidman – “Boy Erased”
Regina King – “If Beale Street Could Talk”
Emma Stone – “The Favourite”
Rachel Weisz – “The Favourite”

BEST YOUNG ACTOR/ACTRESS
Elsie Fisher – “Eighth Grade”
Thomasin McKenzie – “Leave No Trace”
Ed Oxenbould – “Wildlife”
Millicent Simmonds – “A Quiet Place”
Amandla Stenberg – “The Hate U Give”
Sunny Suljic – “Mid90s”

BEST ACTING ENSEMBLE
“Black Panther”
“Crazy Rich Asians”
“The Favourite”
“Vice”
“Widows”

BEST DIRECTOR
Damien Chazelle – “First Man”
Bradley Cooper – “A Star Is Born”
Alfonso Cuarón – “Roma”
Peter Farrelly – “Green Book”
Yorgos Lanthimos – “The Favourite”
Spike Lee – “BlacKkKlansman”
Adam McKay – “Vice”

BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Bo Burnham – “Eighth Grade”
Alfonso Cuarón – “Roma”
Deborah Davis and Tony McNamara – “The Favourite”
Adam McKay – “Vice”
Paul Schrader – “First Reformed”
Nick Vallelonga, Brian Hayes Currie, Peter Farrelly – “Green Book”
Bryan Woods, Scott Beck, John Krasinski – “A Quiet Place”

BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
Ryan Coogler, Joe Robert Cole – “Black Panther”
Nicole Holofcener, Jeff Whitty – “Can You Ever Forgive Me?”
Barry Jenkins – “If Beale Street Could Talk”
Eric Roth and Bradley Cooper & Will Fetters – “A Star Is Born”
Josh Singer – “First Man”
Charlie Wachtel & David Rabinowitz and Kevin Willmott & Spike Lee – “BlacKkKlansman”

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
Alfonso Cuarón – “Roma”
James Laxton – “If Beale Street Could Talk”
Matthew Libatique – “A Star Is Born”
Rachel Morrison – “Black Panther”
Robbie Ryan – “The Favourite”
Linus Sandgren – “First Man”

BEST PRODUCTION DESIGN
Hannah Beachler, Jay Hart – “Black Panther”
Eugenio Caballero, Barbara Enriquez – “Roma”
Nelson Coates, Andrew Baseman – “Crazy Rich Asians”
Fiona Crombie, Alice Felton – “The Favourite”
Nathan Crowley, Kathy Lucas – “First Man”
John Myhre, Gordon Sim – “Mary Poppins Returns”

BEST EDITING
Jay Cassidy – “A Star Is Born”
Hank Corwin – “Vice”
Tom Cross – “First Man”
Alfonso Cuarón, Adam Gough – “Roma”
Yorgos Mavropsaridis – “The Favourite”
Joe Walker – “Widows”

BEST COSTUME DESIGN
Alexandra Byrne – “Mary Queen of Scots”
Ruth Carter – “Black Panther”
Julian Day – “Bohemian Rhapsody”
Sandy Powell – “The Favourite”
Sandy Powell – “Mary Poppins Returns”

BEST HAIR AND MAKEUP
“Black Panther”
“Bohemian Rhapsody”
“The Favourite”
“Mary Queen of Scots”
“Suspiria
“Vice”

BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
“Avengers: Infinity War”
“Black Panther”
“First Man”
“Mary Poppins Returns”
“Mission: Impossible – Fallout”
“Ready Player One”

BEST ANIMATED FEATURE
“The Grinch”
“Incredibles 2”
“Isle of Dogs”
“Mirai”
“Ralph Breaks the Internet”
“Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse”

BEST ACTION MOVIE
“Avengers: Infinity War”
“Black Panther”
“Deadpool 2”
“Mission: Impossible – Fallout”
“Ready Player One”
“Widows”

BEST COMEDY
“Crazy Rich Asians”
“Deadpool 2”
“The Death of Stalin”
“The Favourite”
“Game Night”
“Sorry to Bother You”

BEST ACTOR IN A COMEDY
Christian Bale – “Vice”
Jason Bateman – “Game Night”
Viggo Mortensen – “Green Book”
John C. Reilly – “Stan & Ollie”
Ryan Reynolds – “Deadpool 2”
Lakeith Stanfield – “Sorry to Bother You”

BEST ACTRESS IN A COMEDY
Emily Blunt – “Mary Poppins Returns”
Olivia Colman – “The Favourite”
Elsie Fisher – “Eighth Grade”
Rachel McAdams – “Game Night”
Charlize Theron – “Tully”
Constance Wu – “Crazy Rich Asians”

BEST SCI-FI OR HORROR MOVIE
“Annihilation”
“Halloween”
“Hereditary”
“A Quiet Place”
“Suspiria”

BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
“Burning”
“Capernaum”
“Cold War”
“Roma”
“Shoplifters”

BEST SONG
All the Stars – “Black Panther”
Girl in the Movies – “Dumplin’”
I’ll Fight – “RBG”
The Place Where Lost Things Go – “Mary Poppins Returns”
Shallow – “A Star Is Born”
Trip a Little Light Fantastic – “Mary Poppins Returns”

BEST SCORE
Kris Bowers – “Green Book”
Nicholas Britell – “If Beale Street Could Talk”
Alexandre Desplat – “Isle of Dogs”
Ludwig Göransson – “Black Panther”
Justin Hurwitz – “First Man”
Marc Shaiman – “Mary Poppins Returns”

I love how they threw in every contender in every category.

They seem to not have gotten the memo re: First Man tho

Hey, Glenn Close finally got a crix award. (San Diego.)

sight & sound: https://www.bfi.org.uk/best-films-2018

1. roma
2. phantom thread
3. burning
4. cold war
5. first reformed
6. leave no trace
7. the favourite
7. you were never really here
9. happy as lazzaro
9. zama
11. the image book
12. if beale street could talk
13. blackkklansman
14. the other side of the wind
14. shirkers
14. shoplifters
17. sorry to bother you
18. faces places
18. the rider
18. western

if it tops one more thing I'm joining Soto on the Roma haterade parade

lol, i knew some people were fooled but cold war at 4 is a shock. some of the better stuff here, zama and western, placed higher last year

I've read some good things about Cold War but haven't seen it. I guess Ash Is Purest White isn't getting a release anywhere until 2019

(anywhere outside of China/Hong Kong)

San Diego:

Best Picture: LEAVE NO TRACE (Runner Up: GREEN BOOK)
Best Director: Debra Granik, LEAVE NO TRACE (Runner Up: Peter Farrelly, GREEN BOOK)
Best Actor: Ethan Hawke, FIRST REFORMED (Runner Up: Viggo Mortensen, GREEN BOOK)
Best Actress: Glenn Close, THE WIFE (Runner Up: Melissa McCarthy, CAN YOU EVER FORGIVE ME?)
Best Supporting Actor: TIE – Richard E. Grant, CAN YOU EVER FORGIVE ME? & Timothée Chalamet, BEAUTIFUL BOY
Best Supporting Actress: Nicole Kidman, BOY ERASED (Running Up: Nina Arianda, STAN & OLLIE)
Best Comedic Performance: Hugh Grant, PADDINGTON 2 (Runner Up: Jesse Plemons, GAME NIGHT)
Best Original Screenplay: Bo Burnham, EIGHTH GRADE (Runner Up: Nick Vallelonga, Brian Hayes Currie, Peter Farrelly, GREEN BOOK)
Best Adapted Screenplay: Armando Iannucci, David Schneider, Ian Martin, Peter Fellows, Fabien Nury, THE DEATH OF STALIN (Runner Up: Joel Edgerton, BOY ERASED)
Best Documentary: THREE IDENTICAL STRANGERS (Runner Up: FREE SOLO)
Best Animated Film: ISLE OF DOGS (Runner Up: SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE)
Best Foreign Language Film: SHOPLIFTERS (Runner Up: CAPERNAUM)
Breakthrough Artist: Thomasin McKenzie, LEAVE NO TRACE (Runner Up: Charlie Plummer, LEAN ON PETE)
Best Ensemble: GAME NIGHT (Runner Up: THE FAVOURITE)

I'm imagining the....vertigo from Leave No Trace to Green Book

haven't seen any of these films but it seems like the choices of the San Diego critics are more interesting than those of any of the other critics groups

Sight and Sound

Fun fact: ZAMA got 15 votes in this year's @SightSoundmag poll (placing ninth) and 27 votes in last year's (placing fourth). Combined, that's more votes than either this year's or last year's #1 films received. https://t.co/AmvOK2fNWg

— Guy Lodge (@GuyLodge) December 11, 2018

GAME NIGHT for Best Ensemble is pretty lol, don't really get the appeal of that movie at all tbh

Any movie that gives off the impression that there's any remaining hope for even halfway respectable, non-franchise popular filmmaking is cause for celebration.

(That said, saw First Man last night and *shrug*.)

Think Western also appeared in this year and last year's S&S poll.

Join us tonight at 7pm as we reveal our Best Films of 2018 poll live at @FilmLinc! The event will feature a discussion with @melvillmatic, @haskmoll, @sheilakathleen, @NickPinkerton & @NicolasRapold: https://t.co/nF2LgEXHPd pic.twitter.com/hUYjcspmeO

— Film Comment Magazine (@FilmComment) December 11, 2018

Is Cuaron good now or something?

It took B&W proletariat chic to make him acceptable to critics groups.

i think my favorite film by him is A Little Princess