I Love Politics board redux - this time with feeling!

Voted.

Sharted

You can also vote no if you don't want it...

Tbf the shart wasn't my vote

A lot of clean up either way, TBH

The best kind of offshoot boards are those addressing hobbies and parochial interests, where enthusiasts can ride their hobby horses as hard as they wish. Politics are a hybrid subject in that politics affects governance and government affects everyone. But politics consist of hundreds, if not thousands of issues, of varying degrees of breadth or importance, and political enthusiasts tend to treat minutiae with the same intensity as huge issues.

My sense is that an I Love Politics board is not going to successfully segregate out the hundreds of braided strands of politics into localized discussion threads for each of them. It would be less like I Love Music, with large numbers of active threads, and more like I Love Hoops or I Love Books, where one sprawling central thread captures 95% of the traffic, and subsidiary threads see very little interest.

Seems better to me to just keep politics threads in ILE and those who don't wish to dive in to the mega-thread don't have to. I'm not sure spawning a different board would change anything for the better. It would just rearrange the furniture.

That's fair.

My own argument in favor of a new board is that the politics threads seem to take up a huge amount of attention on ILE, and multiple posters have reported this has a negative effect on their wellbeing.

No.

everything is political, and we already have a board called i love everything, so do the math(s) people

God damn commies

the threads are not the thing affecting posters’ well being. I voted no and I’m right.

tombot otm

no

Voting no that is

bg otm

looks like we may have a horse race after all, ladies and gentlemen

voted no

in fact we need to start eliminating boards

Lol, didn't realize this was such an unpopular idea based on the discussion in the other thread.

its ok that ppl disagree with each other

in fact if we hadnt abandoned that basic principle oh six years ago we would prob be ok today

everything is political, and we already have a board called i love everything, so do the math(s) people

― bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, September 9, 2018 9:11 PM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

God damn love too luv commies

― F# A# (∞), Sunday, September 9, 2018 9:13 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the threads are not the thing affecting posters’ well being. I voted no and I’m right.

― Paleo Weltschmerz (El Tomboto), Sunday, September 9, 2018 9:21 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

all otm. voted no.

Lol luv u bae

Are you talking about political disagreements or disagreements over a new forum?

xxp

Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray
South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio
Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television
North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe
Rosenbergs, H-bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom
Brando, "The King and I" and "The Catcher in the Rye"
Eisenhower, vaccine, England's got a new queen
Marciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
Joseph Stalin, Malenkov, Nasser and Prokofiev
Rockefeller, Campanella, Communist Bloc
Roy Cohn, Juan Peron, Toscanini, Dacron
Dien Bien Phu falls, "Rock Around the Clock"
Einstein, James Dean, Brooklyn's got a winning team
Davy Crockett, Peter Pan, Elvis Presley, Disneyland
Bardot, Budapest, Alabama, Krushchev
Princess Grace, "Peyton Place", trouble in the Suez
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
Little Rock, Pasternak, Mickey Mantle, Kerouac
Sputnik, Chou En-Lai, "Bridge on the River Kwai"
Lebanon, Charlse de Gaulle, California baseball
Starkweather, homicide, children of thalidomide
Buddy Holly, "Ben Hur", space monkey, Mafia
Hula hoops, Castro, Edsel is a no-go
U2, Syngman Rhee, payola and Kennedy
Chubby Checker, "Psycho", Belgians in the Congo
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
Hemingway, Eichmann, "Stranger in a Strange Land"
Dylan, Berlin, Bay of Pigs invasion
"Lawrence of Arabia", British Beatlemania
Ole Miss, John Glenn, Liston beats Patterson
Pope Paul, Malcolm X, British politician sex
JFK, blown away, what else do I have to say
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
Birth control, Ho Chi Minh, Richard Nixon back again
Moonshot, Woodstock, Watergate, punk rock
Begin, Reagan, Palestine, terror on the airline
Ayatollah's in Iran, Russians in Afghanistan
"Wheel of Fortune", Sally Ride, heavy metal, suicide
Foreign debts, homeless vets, AIDS, crack, Bernie Goetz
Hypodermics on the shores, China's under martial law
Rock and roller cola wars, I can't take it anymore
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
But when we are gone
Will it still burn on, and on, and on, and on
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it

xp *waves at everything*

So I agree that we should be more welcoming of different opinions, but I think the forum question is more about accommodating people who feel overwhelmed by politics in general, and would like a break from dealing with these threads constantly being at the top of SNA.

Never saw anyone nitpick this much when the other boards were first created

Convenient eh

a break from dealing with these threads constantly being at the top of SNA.

I am really unsympathetic to the notion that this creates some kind of genuine unavoidable psychological/emotional hardship

Voted no

A hearty no.

I don't exactly get it either, but I take other posters complaints at face value unless given a good reason not to.

xp

Still have hopes for the silent majority

should there be an I love music

Exactly

No i love politics no i love music

that's an argument for "no" surely?

But there still is an i love music

I voted yes without really giving it any thought. If you had a specific political board, maybe people would be more inclined to start a thread on, I don't know, Edmund Muskie. But Trump has been so exhausting--I don't post very often on the Trump threads anymore--I don't have any strong feelings on the issue.

Hell no, shit no, fuck no -- there's my 3 votes.

bad idea

I voted yes because I am pro-compartmentalization in all things.

democracy sucks

I voted no out of badness but really where's the harm?

that was me in the gay marriage ref

high five

injust want to make it clear i voted yes to gay marriage that was a joke post on ilxor.com

I want a messageboard where people are more positive towards the poisonous corrupt psychopaths that are making many ppl's lives not worth living to the point of suicide. FFS I'm not asking for a lot!

deems backtracking on a joke is why this place is going to hell. #voteno

vote yes on the no option

I want a messageboard where people are more positive towards the poisonous corrupt psychopaths that are making many ppl's lives not worth living to the point of suicide.

Ok, this is a slightly unfair characterization of politics thread posters.

not really in the context of this thread tbh!

i thought calz was talking about left twitter tbh

I Love Gulags has 1023 new answers

yes i mean no

no

xxp
well yeah, that's an abortion - no argument, but it doesn't make Bama/Blair apologist twitter any more appetising!

So you are for relegating said psychopaths to their own forum or no?

very poor + disingenuous rhetoric there Moodles, but I wouldn't much better tbf!

Yes to Gulags, no to I Love Politics

Lol, ok

xp

veering into unsavory territory

xxxp

Yes to Gulags, no to I Love Politics

― xyzzzz__, Monday, September 10, 2018 12:25 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My man

All joking aside, there seems to be a non-trivial amount of no voters whose argument is "the quality of discussion on politics threads is horrible, so let's make sure they are perpetually at the top of ILE".

Of all the possible outcomes to this poll/question, that must be the most far-fetched. I wonder how you came to this conclusion at all.

voted yes as part of a social experiment but bizarro gazzarra is right, politics spill into everything. would you put the us open thread there? maybe we need a "politics" tag like a "NSFW" tag you could put on threads to help people avoid those threads (joeks tag)

Well, I'm genuinely surprised that there are so many strong no votes, did not expect that given that so many people seem bothered by the persistence of politics threads

xp

no need for a politics tag as long as we can see user names on sna

there seems to be a non-trivial amount of no voters whose argument is "the quality of discussion on politics threads is horrible, so let's make sure they are perpetually at the top of ILE".

I have never seen this expressed here, but maybe I don't have the right decoder glasses.

voted no

I spend half of half of my time having nervous breakdowns and worrying about surviving under the most (arguably) far-right Tory government we've had in the last century. And then realising how lucky I am because I have one terminally ill and one severely disabled in my house, and they haven't worked out how to murder us yet! But no matter what happens I will hate these people and their apologists forever, even if I win the lottery tomorrow.

Ban seeing user names

Tru demokrasi for all

*hammer and sickle*

we need the eggs

Egghead

you masochists

^

Gets it

Omg is that a james franco ref in 2018? My life hasn’t been for naught

i think it was an Alvy Singer ref (alert the snowflakes)

Voted yes so fewer ppl will see my bad posts

There’s other ways to achieve the same goal

Another option could be just renaming I Love Everything to I Love Politics and moving all the quality content to a new board.

yes

i wd like to spoil my ballot

Voting yes will trigger the article 77 process which will give us two years to negotiate the relationship between ILP and ILE. The negotiations will be spectacularly incompetent and result in ILP crashing out of ILE with no deal. Chaos will ensue.

the electoral college will hand the Yeses a win

i move to place all 'yes' votes into a single district (I Love Vinyl!)

This desire to subdivide cannot stand. I opt for dismantling all boards and all threads and make all of ilxor.com just one single thread.

(77 borad stays obv)

As always De Subjectivisten are the front runners of this idea. We wrap the whole world and every topic imaginable into two threads: film (obv) and the shadow cabinet. It's not complicated.

burn it all down!

the electoral college will hand the Yeses a win

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, September 10, 2018 2:44 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who are the ilx superdelegates?

Voted yes because it would encourage more interesting threads tangential to the daily digests

Would it though? Would it?

Not So Bad After All: Your Favourite Conservatives

;)

That was already a thread tbf

Chances are slim I'd have learned about, let alone heard of, Joanna Wang, if it would have been a thread on an I Love Taiwanese-American Music borad.

xp lol

Let's Start A Weekly Change Dot Org Petition (DISCUSSION THREAD)

I'm satirising my own vote ffs, how quickly we recant

i cant believ lbi is literally advocating for this because of j wang

i won't trust these results until we switch to paper ballots

xp have to admit i first thought it was abt chung wang, y'know, of 'dance hall days' fame. still tho.

I've changed my mind, I Love Politics should exist but if you post in it you're locked in and can't use any other board for 4 years.

including Facebook!

Voted no to ILExit.

Voted no to ILExit.

(only once, mind).

there's an idea!

Voted yes, because the "Rolling East German Nazi Mobs Attacking POCs With Impunity" thread I keep forgetting to start would take longer to drop out of sight on a separate board.

but ILX's innovative search facility means out of sight doesn't mean gone!

out of sight means Solid Gone (man)!

i voted yes with this account but i voted no with my sock, because i don't actually believe in democracy but not voting is apparently immoral(?)

You didn't have to do that! You could have twinned with your sock, and stayed home. That's how democracy works...

No option for making daily posting on ILE politics thread mandatory for all?

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

We’re gonna win this time

what if the "yes" unexpectedly wins, the politics threads get moved to the desert, and i spend the next two years being super depressed at how wrong everyone was around me

years being super depressed at how wrong everyone was around me belongs in the 70s album titles and the your terrible ideas thread simultaneously

lol

I don't think yes will win

the 70s album titles and the your terrible ideas thread simultaneously

i like to think of this as the "sweet spot", or "my home zone"

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

boom

inconclusive

Lets poll it a third time to make sure

holy crap i had no idea there were that many ilxors

Impressive turnout!

Thread is worth it for reminding us how many lurkers there are

1 gross of ilxors

Heh, now do an I Love America board poll.

create 'i love pubes' board & make me tha mod

This is all russian bots

russian butts

Half of the people that voted no got their sox to vote yes for kix

Filthy yanimals

can we really trust these results....I mean how many were from illegals

Or Beagles

Heh, now do an I Love America board poll.

― Yerac, Saturday, September 15, 2018 9:42 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I like this idea a lot. A place to swap apple pie recipes, chat about baseball and american football without european interlopers, encourage a spirit of entrepeneurship

^^^It will be the greatest board on ILX.

1 gross of ilxors

― faculty w1fe (silby), Sunday, 16 September 2018 00:59 (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

Fugg it lets do it

We all know america for all its flaws is the best country out there right now

i would like it if there were an i love california board then too. my favorite california factoid is the origin of the name

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calafia

you people

50 states, 50 boards, 50 mods

I call it my 50/50/50 plan to get ilx back on track in 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LzGss9QGAk

Here’s a curveball for yall

Im actually american

Born and raised

Free and brave baby 😎

Here's a curveball 4 ya

No1gaf

Is I Love Politics Board a states' rights issue?

Xp

Damn jelliness is hi in u bro

Like lay off your the cheetos

Cathy (Cathy) wrote this on thread Where do you go to discuss politics? on board I Love Everything on Jan 15, 2006

x-post - I'm rather disheartened with talking politics on ILX. I don't know whether I'd feel better about it if there was an I Love Politics board. I'd certainly check it, if there was one though. But there are so few political threads on ILE now, I can't imagine an ILP board thriving.

god be with the days

wait til Shakey starts his Pelosi board

What about just a killfile for entire threads?

if only there was some way to simply not click on things

A mallet to all internet-connected devices

Another option could be just renaming I Love Everything to I Love Politics and moving all the quality content to a new board.

― how's life, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:14 (nine months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes

― NAGL usa (darraghmac), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:23 (nine months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

we solved this quandary didnt we

I'll stick with my original assessment in the first few answers to this thread.

It would be less like I Love Music, with large numbers of active threads, and more like I Love Hoops or I Love Books, where one sprawling central thread captures 95% of the traffic, and subsidiary threads see very little interest.

You think that if politics threads were balkanized, it would just turn into one rolling thread? Given the current number of politics threads on ILE, I highly doubt it.

It is true that there's more than one behemoth political thread going most of the time these days. Right now there are 3. The Democratic Primary and Brexit Lol threads are capturing well over 60% of the politics traffic. The Tory leadership thread, which is going strong now, will soon peter out.

The monthly US politics thread is down to 10% or so of the politics thread traffic. Not a heck of a lot of play on any of the other region/country specific threads. I guess the SCOTUS thread could be called politics, but it is very sporadically active.

Rolling Marxism Thread 2019
Rolling Viktor Orban Thread
Rolling Unions Thread

if only there was some way to simply not click on things

― Οὖτις, Thursday, June 27, 2019 3:38 PM

everything is political

ergo i love everything is the politics board

facts and logic wins again

https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-b2st9rn/images/stencil/original/products/16/28/ansell_chekmate_lubricated_condoms__28683.1402899828.jpg

Another option could be just renaming I Love Everything to I Love Politics and moving all the quality content to a new board.

― how's life, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:14 (nine months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

moving all the quality content to a new site

wait where’s the quality content

they mean my posts

Start a new board or just rename everything except ILE I Hate Politics. Either way, I’m for it.

I Love Posting

recount pls

today of all days let us make this a reality

🙏

yes please

Excellent absentee poster Mordy has promised me via private message that he will return if this is brought about. What are we waiting for

what if you hate politics but still want to bitch about politicians which board would that be

it'd be great to have mordy back

i think a ILP board would be fine, makes sense

Agreed.

IHP board

what if you hate politics but still want to bitch about politicians which board would that be

that's actually a part of q, Q is Joe Biden, another non-US Politics thread (Q Anon, Qanon, Q_anon, Joe Biden is Q)

xxxp yes "I Hate Poltics" for obv reasons

No IHP is I Hate Pumpernickel

some of us love poltics, ok

it would be good for politics to be off my SNA - i would not add i love politics to it, if such a board existed - so i could avoid annoying the libs by shitposting in the 50 american politics threads that are always running.

on the other hand:

that goes against #onethread

i have just been doing this through self-discipline recently

sickos xp

Insane Harlequin Posse

Pumpernickel is one of the few foods I would describe as entirely irredeemable tbf

Germanophobe.

It doesn't even fry well

I don’t think anyone should be looking to you for cooking tips lj

Pumpernickel is a wonderful word.

#onethread, like Q, is liquid and adaptive. you cannot "go against" #onethread, because it's like time and Joe Biden - it only moves forward.

xps

Everything is political, though. Why even...(looks around, picks up bong)...even this is political, when you really think about it (lights bong, tokes bong).

the prospect of being able to color-code pol threads in SNA is mouth watering

I vote yes

It's almost like my reputation for cooking is still founded on what I did when I was 21, as opposed to now, when I will merely fry the pumpernickel and attempt to use it as a soup dip

wait - we should have a ballot poll about this.

one that ends on election day 2024

imago, my reputation for cooking is 90% anecdotes about me getting fry oil on my arm and whining about it and complaining about how it itches. so what i'm trying to say is: i bet you're an amazing cook!

I'm pretty good, I usually don't place the entire frying pan in the oven and then handle it ungloved

What I'm trying to say is, that was a one-off and I'm learning

Growing

FPs on I Love Politics should count twice.

Careful what you wish for.

i like the idea of having an entirely new, experimental FP system for ILP

Can we all just get together and celebrate how we have all grown as chefs over the past four years

In the time of Trump

I've put a lot of work into my chef's kiss, definitely working at the pro level at this point

It's almost like my reputation for cooking is still founded on what I did when I was 21, as opposed to now, when I will merely fry the pumpernickel and attempt to use it as a soup dip

Is it growth to have the same pot of soup on the stove for the whole four years idk

*eleven hour

Look, swede softens at its own pace okay

And my food poisoning scare was because my organic delivery service was hiding tiny slugs in the pak choi, I didn't manage to wash them all off, must have eaten a few. Not the chef's fault that. Not a cheffing error

lj irl https://i.imgur.com/NNa1oCB.jpg

The ideal onion soup broils for like 2.5 hours on a low heat, I thought this was common scientific knowledge

Boils, even. I used broil because it's a cooler word, yet inaccurate

Can we do four borads, e.g.

I Love US Politics

I Love UK Politics

I Love Other Anglo Politics

I Love Other Non-Anglo Politics

Mods ban pom for “Anglo”

I Love Broiling

I Love Brawling

I Love Bowling

I thought of you while writing that. <3

xp

you can forget that doughnut

I Poll Lolitics

Alright, alright, we can throw in a fifth borad, I Love Celtic Politics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4O1A-mmBWw

Eire Love Politics surely

I'm 100% in favor of a politics board

This is a good idea but

Having an movie board sadly doesn’t keep movie stuff off ILE

RIP

have one main ILE board and an option to tag subcategories on threads - film, games, books, politics, etc. then people can filter 'em but they're all still in a big list so people can see and comment

If a talkie is discussed on ILE it's a movie, if it's discussed on ILF it's Film

pumpernickel is fine, quit slandering pumpernickel

Gonna immolate in the great Bread Polls of 2021

...which is what I envision for an ILE freed from political shackles

we have an i love football board and the most popular football thread - by a loooong distance - is always posted on i love everything ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I Love Puh-puh-puh-puh-puh...

This is a good idea but

Having an movie board sadly doesn’t keep movie stuff off ILE

RIP

― All cars are bad (Euler), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:30 (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is the thing, youd need mods to agree to ban fuckers who didnt comply

ppl piping in w the naysaying shhhhh