US Politics March 2019: “I can’t say I’m happy. I can’t say I’m thrilled”

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Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:55 (six years ago)

Symmetry, etc.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:55 (six years ago)

In like a lyin'!

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:56 (six years ago)

thoughts and prayers

The health of Sheldon Adelson, the billionaire casino owner and one of the biggest donors to Republicans, is “dire,” according to his lawyer https://t.co/DbUOsO363d

— POLITICO (@politico) March 1, 2019

Backdoor Pathway To Making Human Penis Started With A Wallaby (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:01 (six years ago)

bury him in the jerusalem embassy, I mean he paid for it after all..

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:03 (six years ago)

I will do a little dance when that old turd dies.

ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:06 (six years ago)

his face looks like donald glover's teddy perkins makeup

voodoo chili, Friday, 1 March 2019 16:08 (six years ago)

problem is adelson's wife (presidential medal of freedom recipient - looooool) is just as crazy

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:13 (six years ago)

meanwhile, what's our favourite melon-headed mclovin cosplayer up to

Incredible pic.twitter.com/q3rEwg4IYo

— Joe Bernstein (@Bernstein) March 1, 2019

Backdoor Pathway To Making Human Penis Started With A Wallaby (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:14 (six years ago)

he wowed'em at CPAC yesterday

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:16 (six years ago)

nvr frgt:

http://cdn.liberalamerica.life/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/seb1.jpg

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:17 (six years ago)

the same way one might wow a baby by jingling a keyring

Backdoor Pathway To Making Human Penis Started With A Wallaby (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:17 (six years ago)

btw ICYMI, in his latest defense against his corruption charges yesterday, Netanyahu kept saying "fake" and "witch hunt."

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:18 (six years ago)

the full article that gorka quote comes from is worth a read btw: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/03/01/trump-national-security-council-225442

Backdoor Pathway To Making Human Penis Started With A Wallaby (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:20 (six years ago)

extremely normal stuff

During the brief Flynn era, NSC staffers were shocked when two men who said they were associates of Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son, showed up at NSC offices in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, wearing badges that indicated someone in the West Wing had let them on the White House grounds. They came with a 10-point plan for how the United States could turn Venezuela’s strongman president, Nicolas Maduro, into a U.S. stooge. The basics, according to people familiar with the incident, were as follows: The U.S. would release two nephews of Venezuela’s first lady who were in prison on drug charges; in exchange, Venezuela would free a young American man it had imprisoned on dubious weapons charges; then, Trump would meet with Maduro and the two would hash out some sort of arrangement where the U.S. would lift sanctions on the country’s kleptocratic government in exchange for unfettered access by American companies to the oil-rich Venezuelan market.

The entire pitch appeared to be “a pretext for this great business opportunity for them,” one person familiar with the incident said.

To prove their bona fides, the men — Gentry Beach and Wadie Habboush — called Venezuela’s foreign minister in front of the NSC staffers, leaving a voicemail, and showed a picture of themselves with Maduro, another person familiar with the episode said. “They pulled out a picture of them hugging Maduro. They were like, ‘Yeah, we were in Venezuela two weeks ago.’ And they were all doing the Trump thumbs-up sign,” the person said. The incident, details of which were first reported by Mic, so rattled the NSC staffers that they immediately reported it to the institution’s legal officers. One of the staffers was so alarmed at what he was being asked to consider that he drafted a resignation letter. The men pitching the idea even managed to get a meeting with Bannon.

Backdoor Pathway To Making Human Penis Started With A Wallaby (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:22 (six years ago)

Very cool idea, Netanyahu, to explicitly tie yourself to turns of phrase that are likely to become the 'I am not a crook'-esque go-tos of every future hackneyed Trump impression.

(Rich Little IV tightens mouth into a sphincter and mimes unzipping an invisible zipper hovering six inches from his face) 'Witch hunt! Fake news! Sad!'

a meating wes convaned (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:26 (six years ago)

'gentry beach'

mookieproof, Friday, 1 March 2019 16:30 (six years ago)

add it to the already-huge list of real-life pynchon-character names this admin has generated

Backdoor Pathway To Making Human Penis Started With A Wallaby (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:30 (six years ago)

The two men, identifying themselves as Glenallen Mixon and Willie Dustice,

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:32 (six years ago)

The men pitching the idea even managed to get a meeting with Bannon.

the "even" in this sentence should be replaced by "unsurprisingly"

voodoo chili, Friday, 1 March 2019 16:39 (six years ago)

totally

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:43 (six years ago)

Good Mariotti piece:

http://time.com/5540879/trump-mueller-report-investigation-collusion/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2019 17:05 (six years ago)

Also I'd been wondering what they'd be saying, if anything, in response to this past week and...

Otto Warmbier’s parents have responded. “We have been respectful during this summit process. Now we must speak out. Kim and his evil regime are responsible for the death of our son Otto. Kim and his evil regime are responsible for unimaginable cruelty and inhumanity...” pic.twitter.com/esU45U8JVL

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) March 1, 2019

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2019 17:10 (six years ago)

Cummings putting down a marker:

https://oversight.house.gov/news/press-releases/cummings-demands-that-white-house-immediately-comply-with-oversight-committee

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2019 17:25 (six years ago)

I asked a question yesterday in the AOC thread about congressional committee coordination of questioning, and this story in Huffpo today gives a little info about how that works--

Working alongside intergovernmental affairs chief Randy Abreu, {AOC aide Klarissa} Reynoso began her research on Cohen last Thursday when the staff learned the date of Cohen’s committee testimony.

The professional staff of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform worked nonstop last weekend to draft a list of 35 questions that each Democrat on the panel could choose from, and put their own stamp on.

On Tuesday, after conferring with Ocasio-Cortez, Reynoso met with committee staff to select a question. She chose to pursue the line of inquiry about Trump’s efforts to devalue golf course property to lower his taxes.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sean-hannity-michael-cohen-congress_n_5c78d06fe4b0de0c3fbf7fec

27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Friday, 1 March 2019 18:06 (six years ago)

makes sense.

and as someone noted upthread, i'm sure the GOP draft list of questions for the same hearing was something like

ask him if he's a liar
ask him if why he can be trusted if he lied
ask cohen if he'll write a book
ask him if he's gonna make money
ask him if he'll agree to not make money

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 March 2019 18:11 (six years ago)

oh that was the wrong link.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-mastered-michael-cohen-testimony-preparation-staff_n_5c78605ee4b0de0c3fbf4eb9

27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Friday, 1 March 2019 18:13 (six years ago)

^^^What was so weird (laughable expected) about watching this was how many congresspeople conducted their questioning that allowed for absolutely no actionable takeaways. Like wtf. AOC did what everyone should've been doing.

Yerac, Friday, 1 March 2019 18:23 (six years ago)

otm

27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Friday, 1 March 2019 18:23 (six years ago)

i have mentioned it before, but I used to conduct investigations for SF86 clearances. After every single category (residence, education, personal references, employment, then the additional questions about foreign national contacts, drug/alcohol use, etc.) of which the subject lists people who can cover the duration of those timeframes, when you actually went to interview those people, you would always, always ask them if they knew of any other people (not already given to you by the subject) who could also corroborate that timeframe or event. Questioning 101.

Yerac, Friday, 1 March 2019 18:30 (six years ago)

And here we go. This is about the timeframe Neal figured initially, IIRC, so hey.

NBC NEWS: Ways and Means Chairman Richard Neal has asked the committee’s attorneys to prepare a request for President Trump’s tax returns https://t.co/ECZchGKj8a

— Michael Del Moro (@MikeDelMoro) March 1, 2019

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2019 22:58 (six years ago)

and the universe cries out for a qualmsley, but hears nothing in return

voodoo chili, Friday, 1 March 2019 23:01 (six years ago)

Scotland wants their money.

Scottish government wins Donald Trump wind power legal costs

Donald Trump's Aberdeenshire golf resort must pay the Scottish government's legal costs following a court battle over a major North Sea wind power development.

Mr Trump battled unsuccessfully in the courts to halt the project before he became US president.

A total of 11 turbines make up the development off Aberdeen.

Judges have now ruled Trump International Golf Club Scotland Ltd should pay the legal bills incurred.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 1 March 2019 23:04 (six years ago)

Glwt

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 March 2019 23:15 (six years ago)

Is it safe to assume the Mueller investigation has already gone through the tax returns?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 2 March 2019 06:15 (six years ago)

They have talked with Weisselberg haven't they, I thought several times. So would think they would have some access to the records, though might have thought there might be more outcry from GOP members that they were looking through things like that without direct Presidential permission. Even if it is what a large amount of the population want them to do

Stevolende, Saturday, 2 March 2019 11:00 (six years ago)

I assume Mueller has seen or has the tax returns, but he is somewhat limited in investigative scope. I imagine he could and likely did pass on anything suspicious to SDNY, where obv. Cohen said there are currently several investigations in progress. The question is whether there is anything in the tax returns that would be of interest or suspicion to congress but not to Mueller or SDNY. Maybe just general assholery, like not paying taxes or not paying enough?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 March 2019 13:40 (six years ago)

Omar 'misstepping' again:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/01/politics/ilhan-omar-engel-statement/index.html

though I don't see anything wrong with this statement. At what point will the Dems give up and stop getting on her tit, or will they keep it up and ostracize her? I don't see her shifting on this topic.

akm, Saturday, 2 March 2019 17:04 (six years ago)

The Israel Lobby will set their dogs on any Congressional representative who fiercely criticizes the Israel Lobby. It is a measure of their power that they can mobilize an instantaneous response, not from the Israeli ambassador, but from inside the Capitol and from US representatives. And not just from representatives in the opposition party, but from Omar's own party. That's a demonstration of power, in case anyone feels like joining Omar as a target.

At what point will the Dems give up and stop getting on her tit? Not any time soon, that's a cinch.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 2 March 2019 17:21 (six years ago)

^^^ This whole thing is becoming as ridiculous as saying one cannot be a feminist and criticize Ivanka Trump at the same time.

Yerac, Saturday, 2 March 2019 17:23 (six years ago)

Trump having a regular one at CPAC

Trump has spent as much time talking about David Weigel during this speech as he has discussing trade policy.

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) March 2, 2019

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 2 March 2019 18:59 (six years ago)

good afternoon!

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:00 (six years ago)

very surprised that trump isn't spending all his time talking about the invasion on the southern border

Karl Malone, Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:01 (six years ago)

pushing two hours of sweaty extemporizing now

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:05 (six years ago)

god, this fucking moron

Trump will speak to the CPAC conference in Maryland shortly. Tweets in this thread.

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) March 2, 2019

Karl Malone, Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:07 (six years ago)

e.g.,

Trump complains of other presidents not challenging "40%" auto tariffs from China. They were not 40% until China retaliated against Trump's tariffs. They're now back down to 15%.

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) March 2, 2019

Karl Malone, Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:07 (six years ago)

the whole speech is nuts

Dan S, Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:09 (six years ago)

lmao there's like 5 tweets about this guy

Trump says that nobody in Hollywood could play US generals, "These guys are like perfect people." He says he met a general named "Raisin Kane." He said he was incredulous but that yes, the guy said, his name is Raisin "like the fruit." ??? someone help me with this one

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) March 2, 2019

frogbs, Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:19 (six years ago)

when he's in defeeeeeeeeeeeeat

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:21 (six years ago)

surely this

moose; squirrel (silby), Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:21 (six years ago)

Trump mocks senators with white hair. He says, "I don't have white hair. I don't have white hair."

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:25 (six years ago)

"Trump has spent as much time talking about David Weigel during this speech as he has discussing trade policy."

is it about his Prog Rock book?

akm, Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:27 (six years ago)

he's claiming Newsom calls him and tells him he's a great president. I find that pretty hard to believe.

akm, Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:33 (six years ago)

I find that pretty hard to believe.

this could be the title of any one of these threads.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:42 (six years ago)

We're all used to presidents who lie strategically, for political reasons. We still aren't used to having a president who lies gratuitously, habitually, vainly, and constantly, often for no reason, or maybe just to perk himself up because it feels good to tell a series of self-aggrandizing lies, the way some people feel better after their first cup of coffee.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:54 (six years ago)

it's even more reflexive and thoughtless than that. it's like stratching his nuts.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 2 March 2019 20:11 (six years ago)

*scratching

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 2 March 2019 20:11 (six years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/2yR4AQe.png

Karl Malone, Saturday, 2 March 2019 21:29 (six years ago)

Love too wear my jammies to work

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 2 March 2019 21:35 (six years ago)

The BBC pic https://www.bbc.co.uk/news for the news story today is Trump cuddling the flag. Has he done it again, or are they just trolling?

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Sunday, 3 March 2019 01:13 (six years ago)

he's done it again

meanwhile, his new tweet exonerates him:

"The brand new manuscript for a new book by failed lawyer Michael Cohen shows his testimony was a total lie! Pundits should only use it."

Karl Malone, Sunday, 3 March 2019 01:19 (six years ago)

Ah well. Good God that is so weird.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Sunday, 3 March 2019 01:27 (six years ago)

He is a deeply weird man. It's hard to look away, but... must... not look... so hard...

(Aimless leaves computer to go make dinner.)

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 3 March 2019 01:40 (six years ago)

what book? what the fuck is he talking about? pundits should only use it? what?

akm, Sunday, 3 March 2019 02:14 (six years ago)

perhaps his previous tweet, published just 7 minutes before that, will enlighten you:

"Virtually everything failed lawyer Michael Cohen said in his sworn testimony last week is totally contradicted in his just released manuscript for a book about me. It’s a total new love letter to “Trump” and the pols must now use it rather than his lies for sentence reduction!"

Karl Malone, Sunday, 3 March 2019 02:40 (six years ago)

BUT THE FBI BROKE INTO HIS OFFICE

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 March 2019 02:41 (six years ago)

someone in the comments said it has to do with a book pitch cohen made a year ago (when he was still employed by trump), but yeah. trump is really, really dumb

Karl Malone, Sunday, 3 March 2019 02:41 (six years ago)

Hopefully he'll die of a BDSM injury

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 March 2019 02:42 (six years ago)

...At one point, Cohen testified that it was true he had shopped around a book about his time with Trump, and that he ultimately turned down a $750,000 book deal. He also testified that he soured on his former employer after the president's response to violence at race-fueled riots in Charlottesville and his meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki.

In his tweets Friday morning, Trump said it was "just revealed" that Cohen penned a flattering book after those events occurred — negating Cohen's stated reason for turning on Trump.

But reporting on the book deal dates back to last year, and cites a book proposal — not a full manuscript, which Trump claimed Friday to have seen a "transcript" of. It's unclear if the book was ever written or when precisely the book proposal was shopped around, though Cohen indicated to Congress Wednesday that talks with publishers occurred "early on when I was still part of the RNC."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-attacks-cohen-over-testimony-calls-him-totally-discredited-n978076

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgXc4S-MOfQ

Karl Malone, Sunday, 3 March 2019 02:43 (six years ago)

Jesus doesn't want Trump for a sunbeam

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 March 2019 02:45 (six years ago)

That whole Dale tweet thread is amazing. The speech today should also confirm that Trump wears diapers or some other body waste management device, as there's no way in hell he does anything for two hours without peeing.

XP You Think You're A Man, But You're Only A Trump

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 March 2019 02:50 (six years ago)

Actual photo of General Raisin Kane:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/California_Raisin_claymation.jpg

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 3 March 2019 04:15 (six years ago)

I like how he met a military guy with an obvious nickname and assumed Raisin was his given name

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 3 March 2019 04:40 (six years ago)

yeah it's a book that, I believe, wasn't even written. what a dumb dumb.

akm, Sunday, 3 March 2019 04:48 (six years ago)

It wasn’t a book, it was a total love letter to “trump”

Karl Malone, Sunday, 3 March 2019 04:53 (six years ago)

NEW: House judiciary chairman Jerry Nadler says "tomorrow we will be issuing document requests to over 60 different people and individuals from the White House, to the Dept. of Justice, Donald Trump Jr. ... to begin investigations" https://t.co/T5uriFOXYo #ThisWeek pic.twitter.com/OYnNw8ELjZ

— This Week (@ThisWeekABC) March 3, 2019

?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 March 2019 15:42 (six years ago)

has Ways & Means chair Neal been dragging his feet on Yam's taxes?

https://revolvingdoorproject.substack.com/p/revolving-door-project-reacts-to

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 March 2019 16:39 (six years ago)

i uh, think he's got this?
http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/wamc/files/styles/medium/public/201804/114_rp_ma_1_neal_richard__1_.jpg

sorry hueg but eh

Hunt3r, Sunday, 3 March 2019 21:09 (six years ago)

Senate has enough GOP defections to pass national emergency disapproval.

Obv gonna get vetoed and there's no veto-proof majority but at least we're making him own it

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 March 2019 22:21 (six years ago)

Senate has enough GOP defections to pass national emergency disapproval.

No they don't. I read the Vox article that listed the "defectors" and the list included Collins, with Rubio and Romney supposedly "on the fence." I will bet actual money that none of them are going to vote no when it finally comes down. Paul will, Murkowski might, and that'll be it, and one of those will be canceled out by Manchin voting yes.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 3 March 2019 23:29 (six years ago)

huh? this bill is the exact type of thing Murkowski and Collins love to defect on, much like the ACA repeal bills, to appear more "middle of the road". and Manchin likes to vote the same way they do (albeit he doesn't always).

not sure why you're dismissing this so confidently.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2019 00:05 (six years ago)

I mean I know some of the posters ITT get boners loudly posting about how the worst possible outcome is obviously going to happen, but Murkowski/Collins have voted to buck Trump multiple times. they're opportunist bullshitters, but they're usually the two most likely to break ranks, like with his wall bill, or the ACA. especially when they know the bill is going to be vetoed by the President anyway, which absolves them of any 'responsibility'.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2019 00:13 (six years ago)

Murkowski's been at least consistent on that front.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 March 2019 00:18 (six years ago)

Murkowski I can see voting no, and Paul too. But I expect less than nothing from Collins, never mind Romney or Rubio.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 4 March 2019 00:24 (six years ago)

My senator Tillis actually bothered to write a whole op-Ed criticizing the declaration iirc. I mean I guess he could always still vote no but that would make the op-Ed a pretty weird flex.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 4 March 2019 00:37 (six years ago)

Paul has said he will vote no.

earlnash, Monday, 4 March 2019 01:15 (six years ago)

wait, what? or do you mean "yes"?

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2019 01:24 (six years ago)

w the Dems

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 4 March 2019 01:26 (six years ago)

oh ok.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2019 01:27 (six years ago)

there are butthurt conservatives posting how he "joined the swamp" on twitter now lol

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2019 01:27 (six years ago)

Jane Mayer’s Fox News deep dive is a doozy. Who’s surprised that Trump got debate Qs in advance? Can the guy ever stop projecting???

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-the-fox-news-white-house

maura, Monday, 4 March 2019 16:02 (six years ago)

Also enjoyed Remnick’s chat with AOC:

Ocasio-Cortez says that she has tried to keep her focus partly by avoiding watching Trump on television: “He relies and thrives on attention, and so the less attention he’s given, even if it’s just one set of eyeballs, the weaker he is.” She said that watching Trump in the House chamber at the State of the Union address made her feel “sick” and “underwhelmed.”

“He is such a small, mediocre person,” she told me. “I grew up with a real romanticism about America. I grew up in a first-generation household where your parents give up everything, and for me America was the greatest thing ever to exist. To be there on the floor of the House was beyond anything my parents would have ever dreamed of. But the person behind the podium was so unskilled. It was kind of sad.”

maura, Monday, 4 March 2019 16:04 (six years ago)

sorry, link https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-is-coming-for-your-hamburgers

maura, Monday, 4 March 2019 16:06 (six years ago)

Trump sez he gave FEMA the order to give Alabama "A plus treatment" after their tornadoes.

He makes disaster relief sound like fucking hotel concierge service ffs

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2019 18:14 (six years ago)

boom...?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/us/politics/trump-obstruction.html

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 4 March 2019 18:28 (six years ago)

misleading URL btw

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 4 March 2019 18:28 (six years ago)

again, so many impeachable offenses, like several a week.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/report-trump-ordered-officials-to-pressure-doj-to-intervene-against-tiem-warner-att-deal

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 4 March 2019 18:33 (six years ago)

and it's all out in the fucking open. all this stuff does is confirm what he already said and what we already knew.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 4 March 2019 18:33 (six years ago)

Other than a big burst of posting around Cohen's testimony, it feels like the US politics threads have calmed a fair amount since the government shutdown ended. The Dems capturing the House makes Trump less relevant, except as a crash dummy. The new Congressional investigations are only at the starting line. The Green New Deal is still too shapeless and far down the road to get much more from us than general approval of the concept. M4A might have legs, but until 2021 it remains an election issue with a legislative sidebar.

This is a nice chance to take a breather and stretch.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 4 March 2019 20:23 (six years ago)

Here, this will help raise blood pressures: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/04/omar-israel-house-democrats-1201881?fbclid=IwAR0BzBylWabRlwhrPGge11rmAV6vHKISKZoVaABeQTPJQuHLNPZuWNdn4mA

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 March 2019 20:28 (six years ago)

this OTT reaction from Dems only seems to prove her point. meanwhile you've got wings of the GOP actively calling her a terrorist. great job, Dems!

frogbs, Monday, 4 March 2019 20:42 (six years ago)

like most things nowadays it just feels like bad faith all around. based solely on Omar's comments, does anyone really feel like it's necessary for Democrats to issue a congressional resolution to demonstrate they are against anti-Semitism? i don't think so, which suggests they are signalling something else, like...

questioning support for the U.S.-Israel relationship is unacceptable. (1/2)
— Rep. Juan Vargas (@RepJuanVargas) March 4, 2019

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 4 March 2019 20:51 (six years ago)

fuck these nerds. guess for the next 2 years the money i usually give to PP & ACLU is going to Omar and primary opponents of every bad faith dickhead trying to run her out of town

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 4 March 2019 21:05 (six years ago)

Rep. Juan Vargas, "As the duly-elected representative of hundreds of thousands of American citizens, I see it as my duty not to ask questions about America's foreign policy. Really. No questions at all. That's my position."

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 4 March 2019 21:16 (six years ago)

An excellent Yglesias piece summarizing what we learned from the Mayer reporting: https://www.vox.com/2019/3/4/18249847/fox-news-effect-swing-elections

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 March 2019 21:38 (six years ago)

Robert Mueller's office has notified Judge Amy Berman Jackson about an Instagram post from Roger Stone that could be in violation of Judge Jackson's strict gag order on Stone. https://t.co/UNp0Ux1xi1

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) March 4, 2019

mookieproof, Monday, 4 March 2019 22:30 (six years ago)

speaking of predictable events....

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:50 (six years ago)

Was just watching last nights John Oliver and he was discussing the story about Jared’s security clearance from what, four days ago, that has essentially vanished from the news while everyone gets worked up about Rep. Omar again. Good job media, attaboy Congress.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:53 (six years ago)

conrgess is gonna congress, frankly this is a media problem.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:53 (six years ago)

After seeing that disgusting wapo op-Ed comparing Omar to Steve King I’m inclined to agree

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 02:48 (six years ago)

my own congressman is dining out on supposed anti-semitism among democrats but he has declined nearly all invitations to actually speak with the jewish congregations in his district (there aren't many). he's a perfect example of "anti-semitism" being weaponized in a way that has nothing to do with harms done to (or perceived by) actual jews.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 03:04 (six years ago)

This is crazy, for those fascinated and/or needing a chill way to wind down the evening:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/03/04/puzzling-through-the-house-requests/

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 03:16 (six years ago)

some GOP rep said on NPR this morning "did Jared compromise security? nothing to see"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 03:21 (six years ago)

he almost certainly did, though

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 03:24 (six years ago)

well done Democrats

Representative Ilhan Omar is again under fire for her terrible comments concerning Israel. Jewish groups have just sent a petition to Speaker Pelosi asking her to remove Omar from Foreign Relations Committee. A dark day for Israel!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 5, 2019

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 04:36 (six years ago)

A dark day for Israel!

I'm pretty sure no one in Israel had a worse day today because of this. It's not exactly like she is committing or even inciting mass murder of Israelis. She didn't even make someone stub their toe or get a paper cut.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 04:44 (six years ago)

theres zero chance he knows A) what she said or B) why people are upset about it

(of course the fact that anyone's upset is idiotic and I suspect none of this is done in good faith and HOLY SHIT DEMS DO NOT DO THE GOP'S JOB FOR THEM)

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 04:49 (six years ago)

NYT: “Senate prepares to block wall emergency, setting up rebuke to Trump. The vote would force Mr. Trump to issue the first veto of his presidency, signaling that his grip on Republicans in Congress ma be slipping.”


his grip on Republicans may be slipping, right!

Dan S, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 05:52 (six years ago)

I'm sure some of them like their handies differently

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 05:53 (six years ago)

"donald trump has issued an executive order sentencing everyone who voted for hilary clinton to death. the nra is urging its members to form posses and kill everyone who is responsible for their persecution. 12 republican senators are believed to be considering opposing trump's order, dealing a major blow to party unity in a time of great strife and uncertainty for donald trump."

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 05:56 (six years ago)

lol

Dan S, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 05:57 (six years ago)

Republicans are like the parent insisting their kid didn't shit on the floor in the dressing room of a JC Penneys

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 05:59 (six years ago)

The only "grip" Trump has over Republicans in Congress is their fear of getting primaried out of office by his yahoo supporters. It certainly isn't his inspiring leadership, his shrewd maneuvering for their ultimate advantage, or his prowess at policy.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 06:00 (six years ago)

I'm wondering how this 72 year old man was able to give a vehement, completely insane speech for 2 full hours on Saturday without taking a break or even a sip of water as far as I saw

Dan S, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 06:13 (six years ago)

Insulin Pump full of Stem Cells.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 06:50 (six years ago)

He is high on the one thing that truly stimulates or satisfies him: talking about himself in front of a crowd. Being able to talk on and on, fabulating both nonsense and bullshit while other people listen. If he tells stories about how great he is, and there are people listening, then he can pretend to himself that they are true, and even more, pretend that the other people believe the same thing.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 07:14 (six years ago)

Also, loads of drugs.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 07:16 (six years ago)

And a catheter.

nickn, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 07:34 (six years ago)

trade wars are good https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/05/trump-ejects-india-from-56bn-tariff-deal-over-negative-trade-barriers

my future think tank (stevie), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 10:11 (six years ago)

xp I prefer to think of him just freely wetting and soiling himself as he spoke, but nobody mentioning it

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 11:26 (six years ago)

good morning!

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 11:32 (six years ago)

Trump is def high on more than applause. He does rails of Adderall

The president does rails of Adderall.

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 12:23 (six years ago)

whoops: https://www.complex.com/life/2018/12/ex-apprentice-staffer-trump-snorts-adderall-cant-read

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 12:24 (six years ago)

if you view everything through the lens of 2020 all GOP lines of attack will be based around:

a. anti-semitism/support of israel
b. socialism
c. infanticide
d. the border wall/racism

thats the modern conservative movement, folks.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 16:25 (six years ago)

yep, if you play those notes one after another, eventually you're going to gather up all of the base. for my father-in-law it's mostly d.) with a healthy dose of b.). for my sister's mother-in-law, it's almost all c.) with a smidgen of b.).

i still don't think a.). is much of a factor with many voters.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 16:36 (six years ago)

I think these four fall into two distinct categories: c) and d) are meant to inflame the base, but a) and b) have as much to do with pleasing lobbyists and large donors

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 16:40 (six years ago)

I mean Trump's base by and large is not comprised of taxpayers vulberable to a proposed tax rate of 70%.

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 16:42 (six years ago)

They could drop "socialism" and "Israel" from their rants and the base probably wouldn't blink

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 16:43 (six years ago)

PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 5, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 16:57 (six years ago)

SHOTS!

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:00 (six years ago)

Trump in with the most efficient précis of the past two years that I've yet encountered.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:04 (six years ago)

Trump is def high on more than applause. He does rails of Adderall

The president does rails of Adderall.

― heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, March 5, 2019 4:23 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

an obese septuagenarian speed-freak is quite an unlikely prospect

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:07 (six years ago)

and yet

Number None, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:07 (six years ago)

lol

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:08 (six years ago)

As someone who has took mountains of adderall in my late teens and early twenties (all prescribed, which seems insane in hindsight) i believe the adderally theory. I wouldn’t behave exactly like him, but kind of

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:23 (six years ago)

*has taken

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:23 (six years ago)

I honestly don’t think it’s a crazy theory. I can’t imagine how he would have this much energy otherwise.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:25 (six years ago)

lots of diet pepsi.

he also just sits in a chair watching tv and firing off tweets all day

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:27 (six years ago)

He's a president flyover states can relate to.

contains pieces the size of a child's esophagus (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:28 (six years ago)

He's saved all that energy from a lifetime of not exercising.

Yerac, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:28 (six years ago)

Exactly. Adderall gives you a lot of cheap, bullshit energy that is good for stuff like tweeting and picking fights and leaves you unable to relax.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:29 (six years ago)

Xp

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:30 (six years ago)

Incredible:

This is a real closing paragraph from an actual Wapo column re. Ilhan Omar. pic.twitter.com/BoBRBXF6Wn

— Eli Valley (@elivalley) March 4, 2019

Of course, the whole Ceasar-story was massively sexist all along. And with Omar, it's with a healthy dose of Islamophobia.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:38 (six years ago)

hey Ancient Romans! Do better!

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:42 (six years ago)

Wish more trenchant op-eds would present arguments as if the last several millennia of political history never happened.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:53 (six years ago)

The author is @henryolsenEPPC. The 'ethic center' thinktank that pays him was run by Elliot Abrams for years, the same war ghoul @IlhanMN was questioning in the House recently.

TLDR, this is a pure hit piece - a bootlicker covering for his former bosshttps://t.co/i40JTtKMC7

— Lionel Cosgrove (@LionelCosgrove1) March 5, 2019

^ not bothering to verify bc I assume it’s true

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:55 (six years ago)

OL I take it you didn't spend the W years reading Lewis Lapham columns in Harper's

rob, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:56 (six years ago)

Let us not forget the lessons of history, such as when Caveman Ug failed to swiftly exile Caveman Brap after Brap acted imprudently with the communal mastodon pelts.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:56 (six years ago)

(You take it correctly.)

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:57 (six years ago)

It's not fair to compare him to that trash op-ed really, but Lapham's capacity for relating literally anything the Bush admin did to some bit of classical history was astounding

rob, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 18:01 (six years ago)

indeed -- and it was basically anything, not just the bush admin

mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 18:03 (six years ago)

xps The Ethics & Public Policy Center is currently headed by Ed Whelan of Kavanaugh Zillow theory infamy. Great work, WaPo.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 18:09 (six years ago)

You'd think the fourth estate might've seen our current era as a prime opportunity to seize the moral high ground and aspire to something better but not so fucking much.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 18:14 (six years ago)

The WaPo editorial board wishes to keep its spotless record of defending free speech by giving a much-needed voice to the servile toadies of the rich and powerful.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 18:47 (six years ago)

“Veteran suicide is an incredible thing to watch” — @realDonaldTrump

— Andrew Feinberg (@AndrewFeinberg) March 5, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 19:21 (six years ago)

wtf

27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 19:23 (six years ago)

Trump is def high on more than applause. He does rails of Adderall

The president does rails of Adderall.

weird how ppl in this thread keep reminding us of his only likable, relatable trait, aka his very likely frequent drug abuse

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 19:25 (six years ago)

New @QuinnipiacPoll: 64% say Trump committed crimes before becoming president and 45% say Trump committed crimes while president

— Jesse Rodriguez (@JesseRodriguez) March 5, 2019

sure but how many of them will still vote for him

mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 19:27 (six years ago)

It's nice to see at least that much realism reflected in the general population.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 19:28 (six years ago)

He committed crimes because he's smart, duh.

DJI, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 19:29 (six years ago)

Yeah, an important metric to measure now is how many people think it's cool having a criminal for a president.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 19:30 (six years ago)

weird how ppl in this thread keep reminding us of his only likable, relatable trait, aka his very likely frequent drug abuse

racist quas-fascist rapist despots are likeable if they are drug addicts?

my future think tank (stevie), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 20:06 (six years ago)

his only likeable trait IMO was saying bloodsport was his favorite movie. i still think everyone would be better off if he was curbstomped.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 20:11 (six years ago)

no argument from me on that score

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 20:14 (six years ago)

Likes Twisted Sister (although it was not reciprocated)

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 20:15 (six years ago)

Hates Jeff Sessions

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 20:19 (six years ago)

Mortal.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 20:22 (six years ago)

hardcore adderall abuse is not relatable (unless you work in media)

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 21:02 (six years ago)

tbf Trump works mainly in media

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 21:09 (six years ago)

tough words from a board that embraced "gucci gucci" with open arms

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 21:09 (six years ago)

I only said "drug abuse" but sure I'll concede that specific trait is more niche (fwiw I have never done it myself)

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 21:11 (six years ago)

Adderall is an evil substance imo

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 21:18 (six years ago)

that's a bad o

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 21:21 (six years ago)

I don’t fully feel that way i guess. I didn’t enjoy feeling dependent on it.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 21:21 (six years ago)

If it helps people then good for them—i wouldn’t want to disparage that

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 21:22 (six years ago)

Yeah, an important metric to measure now is how many people think it's cool having a criminal for a president.

Well he didn't commit Crimes like minorities do, such as stealing a cigarette or attempting to cross a line on the map. He committed ""crimes"" like smart rich white guys do.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 21:35 (six years ago)

they weren't even real crimes, he was just being sarcastic

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 21:37 (six years ago)

Fox News Quietly Ditched Trump-Loving Sheriff David Clarke

The one-time Fox News regular, who was previously considered for different senior posts in the Trump administration, was effectively “banned” last year by the network, according to two sources familiar with the situation.

The decision was more sweeping than the “soft bans” that Fox has imposed on other guests or contributors, such as former White House official Sebastian Gorka, who was barred from Fox’s “hard news” programming but regularly appeared on opinion shows like Hannity.

And Fox News isn’t the only organization to apparently part ways with the demagogic lawman.

Two knowledgeable sources confirmed that Clarke is also no longer a senior adviser and spokesman for pro-Trump super PAC America First Action, where he landed in late 2017 after he resigned as sheriff and was repeatedly blocked from getting a position in the Trump administration. (For instance, Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon wanted to hire Clarke as a White House official, primarily to make TV appearances and take on members of the media.)

...

It’s not totally clear why Fox News hasn’t welcomed Clarke back on its air in more than a year.

“His rhetoric became crazier and crazier and most shows refused to use him,” one source familiar with the situation told The Daily Beast.

Another Fox source suggested that it probably didn’t help that the loud-mouthed sheriff repeatedly bashed high-school-aged Parkland shooting victims—at one point accusing them of being funded by George Soros to “spew anti-gun talking points”—at the same time Fox News was attempting to tread lightly after its primetime star Laura Ingraham faced a massive ad boycott for mocking the students.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 02:53 (six years ago)

So the people running things at Fox, like producers - do these people recognize their hosts and guests as clowns and crazies?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 02:57 (six years ago)

remarkable that mocking the parkland victims and survivors is only one *possible* explanation and does not, by itself, seem like an open-and-shut reason for fox to cut him loose.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 03:11 (six years ago)

i dunno. you'd think they would have declared him to have crossed a line years ago.

akm, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 03:24 (six years ago)

seems more likely that clarke and/or gorka took a shit on the green room floor or something

mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 03:25 (six years ago)

xposts

remarkable that the president of the united states was the leading face of the birther movement, and still promotes the idea in the oval office

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 03:30 (six years ago)

tough words from a board that embraced "gucci gucci" with open arms

― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, March 5, 2019 2:09 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was an excellent lol thank you dc

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 03:31 (six years ago)

clarke is like those early nazis who were too crazy for hitler and goebbels etc. once the party had to get down to the business of running a country

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 05:02 (six years ago)

like Julius Streicher

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 05:03 (six years ago)

House Dems postpone vote rebuking Omar amid pressure from left

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 15:43 (six years ago)

What a stupid situation. Dems get a little of power and spend it all getting derailed by this bullshit.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 15:45 (six years ago)

of course

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 15:49 (six years ago)

I will keep on saying it because it seems increasingly likely: party's gonna split at some point in the not-too-distant future, probably once it slowly dawns on us that the wheezy rasp in the GOP's hate-filled respiration has developed into an unmistakable death rattle.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 16:00 (six years ago)

love a schism

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 16:06 (six years ago)

I will keep on saying it because it seems increasingly likely: party's gonna split at some point in the not-too-distant future, probably once it slowly dawns on us that the wheezy rasp in the GOP's hate-filled respiration has developed into an unmistakable death rattle.

― Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Wednesday, March 6, 2019 4:00 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's way optimistic. people were saying this in 2015/16, look what happened. fascism is resilient.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 16:07 (six years ago)

people were saying this in 2015/162008

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 16:08 (six years ago)

true!

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 16:09 (six years ago)

2015/16 is better example given relevant events. But yeah people say it all the time

Evan, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 16:11 (six years ago)

The survival of the GOP at this point depends largely on a life support system of cheatery and flim-flammery that is, admittedly, still pretty robust. The more power the dems gain and the more dems in power focus their attention on eg redistricting and voter rights legislation and campaign finance legislation, the less viable that life support system is going to become. Having a criminal for a president and a slew of GOP-ers who've hitched their wagon to him certainly doesn't hurt.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 16:59 (six years ago)

unless they just go full autocracy which they are clearly working toward

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 18:27 (six years ago)

speaking of focusing att'n on eg voter rights legislation: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/6/1839953/-House-Oversight-Democrats-announce-investigation-into-Georgia-s-war-on-voting

davey, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 21:27 (six years ago)

evergreen

At one point, Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), a close Pelosi ally, pleaded with Democrats: “Everyone stop tweeting!” https://t.co/268pnsXAkm

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) March 6, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 22:26 (six years ago)

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/ay6he2/my_failed_selfie_attempt_with_the_president_of/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 7 March 2019 02:04 (six years ago)

I cant find it now but there was an article (not sure if recent or old), re demographic change and saying that with increasing urbanization by some point in the future (2030? 2040? 2050?), 70% of the population will live in 15 states (and only 30 senators between them). I hadn't actually though about how internal migration would effect that quite so much before (not sure what the figures are now)

anvil, Thursday, 7 March 2019 02:21 (six years ago)

I've been hearing the Repugs are dying for 20 years

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 March 2019 02:45 (six years ago)

I will keep on saying it because it seems increasingly likely: party's gonna split at some point in the not-too-distant future, probably once it slowly dawns on us that the wheezy rasp in the GOP's hate-filled respiration has developed into an unmistakable death rattle.

The GOP is more uniform today than ever and old white people aren't going to die off en masse.
Even the 'demographics are destiny' stuff only matters to national races - a uniform GOP can control the state governments and Senate seats of half the country for decades to come unless people start building communes in the Dakotas and shit.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 7 March 2019 02:53 (six years ago)

If 30% of the pop can have 70% of the senators, GOP death seems a long way off

anvil, Thursday, 7 March 2019 02:54 (six years ago)

WASHINGTON (AP) — Sen. Martha McSally, the first female Air Force fighter pilot to fly in combat, said Wednesday that she was sexually assaulted by a superior officer, and later, when she tried to talk about it to military officials, she “felt like the system was raping me all over again.”

The Arizona Republican, a 26-year military veteran who retired as a colonel, made the disclosure at a Senate hearing on the military’s efforts to prevent sexual assaults and improve the response when they occur. Lawmakers also heard from other service members who spoke of being sexually assaulted and humiliated while serving their country.

i can only assume that her colleagues, like susan collins, believed that she had in fact been assaulted by someone but did not believe that it was by a superior officer

Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 March 2019 05:40 (six years ago)

old white people aren't going to die off en masse.

Fentanyl's pretty cheap; the DSA could make some real progress toward this goal if they'd just get their heads in the game.

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 7 March 2019 11:28 (six years ago)

good morning!

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2019 11:35 (six years ago)

when did the u go missing

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 7 March 2019 13:17 (six years ago)

The midterms i think. Fixed everything iirc

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 March 2019 13:35 (six years ago)

wheres those tax retuurns

j., Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:20 (six years ago)

Whither the qualmsey in the eye of our American tempest, whither

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:30 (six years ago)

WASHINGTON (AP) — Sen. Martha McSally, the first female Air Force fighter pilot to fly in combat, said Wednesday that she was sexually assaulted by a superior officer, and later, when she tried to talk about it to military officials, she “felt like the system was raping me all over again.”

McSally in Oct 2018: “But let’s make sure that people are not susceptible to false allegations, that just because someone says something doesn’t make it true.”

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:46 (six years ago)

It’s grim. She wasn’t seated yet for the kavanaugh vote, but I’m assuming she would have voted for him. Every single senator must personally know many people who have sexually assaulted, if they weren’t assaulted themselves. I’m a complete nobody and I know of many, inside and outside the family. I cannot understand how nearly every single one is so completely hypocritical on an issue that is so intensely personal and direct and emotional.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 March 2019 18:38 (six years ago)

I've heard that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 March 2019 18:41 (six years ago)

NEW: House Democrats are wary of targeting Trump’s adult children, fearing that it could backfire.

Oversight Chairman Elijah Cummings is among those who is wary of zeroing in too hard on them.

Story w/ @BresPoliticohttps://t.co/r6kXWq6hN3

— Andrew Desiderio (@desiderioDC) March 6, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 March 2019 18:46 (six years ago)

xp She SAID she would have voted for him, unless you take that as, "I have to say this for my base but luckily I don't have a vote so it's immaterial," which is possible.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 7 March 2019 18:47 (six years ago)

Everything, literally everything, they do makes sense when you remember that 90% of what animates Dem leadership is fear of white suburban petite bourgeoisie backlash. They think they lost the Kavanaugh hearings because America loves its boys so much. https://t.co/BPpdJDIQun

— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) March 7, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 March 2019 18:48 (six years ago)

lol

Louie Gohmert says he’s voting against the anti-hate resolution.

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) March 7, 2019

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:44 (six years ago)

you laugh now but the pro-hate wing of the GOP will clean up in the 2022 midterms

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:45 (six years ago)

BREAKING: Paul Manafort has been sentenced to less than four years in federal prison. The guideline range was 19 to 24 years. https://t.co/MFlViwSU84

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) March 8, 2019

a preview of future sentencing downgrades

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Friday, 8 March 2019 00:11 (six years ago)

Well, the nation needs to heal . . .

nickn, Friday, 8 March 2019 00:21 (six years ago)

NEW: Judge Ellis says that the sentencing guidelines are "excessive" and he says that Paul Manafort was involved in "lots of good things" he says Manafort is "a generous person." He says Manafort, "has lived an otherwise blameless life.”@GaryGrumbach reporting. https://t.co/XrNx4nNIMU

— Tom Winter (@Tom_Winter) March 7, 2019

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Friday, 8 March 2019 00:22 (six years ago)

hope he gets extraordinarily renditioned

moose; squirrel (silby), Friday, 8 March 2019 00:22 (six years ago)

Some fucking bullshit right there ! justice for rich white dudes fuck this place

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 March 2019 00:25 (six years ago)

wonder how much roger stones' buttcheeks will get

Send Roger Stone to prison for felony fashion crime pic.twitter.com/aa27zhXbEC

— Max Burns (@themaxburns) March 7, 2019

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 March 2019 00:43 (six years ago)

Holy shit Manafort has lived the worst possible life and he gets less than a black dude selling weed

frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2019 00:55 (six years ago)

I can't believe I'm still naive enough to have thought he'd get a proper sentence. What a joke.

pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 8 March 2019 00:57 (six years ago)

What a joke. Manafort was and has always been a fucking soulless demon, finding the evilest people to support and bringing misery to millions.

DJI, Friday, 8 March 2019 00:59 (six years ago)

Apparently he has sentencing for other stuff next week along with any outstanding SDNY stuff that’s floating out there

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 8 March 2019 01:00 (six years ago)

there's still a second sentencing hearing for manafort this week, but yeah, the first one was bullshit. (it's also possible that his second sentence will be allowed to serve concurrently with the first, rather than consecutively).

also, gotta love this tidbit:

Manafort’s allocution was notably light on expressions of remorse. He alluded only to the “conduct” that had gotten him into his situation and the “questionable circumstances” he will avoid in the future.

“I was surprised that I did not hear you express regret for engaging in wrongful conduct,” Ellis told Manafort at one point.

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 March 2019 01:01 (six years ago)

xp

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 March 2019 01:01 (six years ago)

Holy shit Manafort has lived the worst possible life and he gets less than a black dude selling weed
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/us/texas-woman-voter-fraud.html

Fucking infuriating

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 March 2019 01:02 (six years ago)

He's going to jail, faces sentencing in front of a DC judge next week -- that's enough for me.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2019 01:02 (six years ago)

please note how much time the Watergate conspirators served.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2019 01:02 (six years ago)

notable that the judge (TS Ellis), ronald reagan appointee, was also the one who recently made waves for being a complete dick to the team prosecuting manafort.

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 March 2019 01:05 (six years ago)

Manafort, "has lived an otherwise blameless life.”

What a crock of shit. Does this judge really have the brass to say he unaware of any crimes Manafort committed, apart from the eight counts for which he was indicted and found guilty by a jury, so therefore he's practically innocent? Gee, if you eliminate all his premeditated crimes from consideration, he's a heck of a nice guy!

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 8 March 2019 01:10 (six years ago)

"Forty-seven months is nothing to sneeze at," said the judge. "That's a very heavy sentence. You have to remember we're talking about a white guy here. He's not some fucking-" [bailiff dives across, knocking microphone away]

— Splitcoil (@Splitcoil) March 8, 2019

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 8 March 2019 01:24 (six years ago)

ALL the best blameless people

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2019 01:26 (six years ago)

My God, Martha Stewart got a year for trading on a golf course stock tip ...

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) March 8, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2019 01:40 (six years ago)

Without knowing anything else about Judge Ellis, I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t be a shame if he found out tomorrow that he has long-undiagnosed testicular cancer.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 8 March 2019 01:51 (six years ago)

Also, so far Reality Winner is doing more time for trying to warn us about Russian meddling than anybody is for participating in it.

— Schooley (@Rschooley) March 8, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 8 March 2019 02:27 (six years ago)

No one with the last name of Trump is going to spend even five minutes in jail.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Friday, 8 March 2019 04:02 (six years ago)

While light sentences aren't going to be surprising in the slightest, I had thought that there would be one fall guy that would receive a heavy sentence for the sake of appearances. But then I'd also thought Manafort might be that guy!

anvil, Friday, 8 March 2019 04:54 (six years ago)

Xpost you mean he's not even gonna visit those guys who sacrificed their...

Aha!

Mark G, Friday, 8 March 2019 07:41 (six years ago)

lol ken starr

Just incredible hearing @JoeLockhart describe the differences between Robert Mueller, who has run the most tight-lipped operation in recent memory, and Ken Starr, who used to address the media from the end of his driveway.

As Lockhart spoke, Starr sat right across from him... pic.twitter.com/BpwuLfMLmR

— Josh Campbell (@joshscampbell) March 8, 2019

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 March 2019 13:28 (six years ago)

Lockhart might as well have blown Ken Starr, if just to repeat the Clinton years.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2019 13:49 (six years ago)

NEW SCOOP: Trump cheered Kraft’s team to Super Bowl victory with founder of spa where he was bustedhttps://t.co/CqsNwdNRqB

— julie k. brown (@jkbjournalist) March 8, 2019

by the light of the burning Citroën, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:15 (six years ago)

While light sentences aren't going to be surprising in the slightest, I had thought that there would be one fall guy that would receive a heavy sentence for the sake of appearances. But then I'd also thought Manafort might be that guy

It's insane. I wasn't really expecting serious consequences for most of these guys but Manafort is a lifelong criminal and a traitor to this country, who committed crimes while IN JAIL. He forced his wife to have sex with his buddies and his daughters changed their last name because they wanted nothing to do with him. He is the exact opposite of someone who is "otherwise an upstanding person". At this point it's like, why are we even doing any of this if the person who gets the harshest sentence is gonna be Reality Winner?

frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:15 (six years ago)

Oh man

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 8 March 2019 14:16 (six years ago)

when I used to work at investment banks people came to me a lot for exceptions to, like regulatory requirements. It was either always they wanted the "good guy exception" or the "he brings a lot of money to the firm" exception.

Yerac, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:20 (six years ago)

Reality Winner better get a ticker tape parade when she gets out.

Yerac, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:20 (six years ago)

wow who would have thought that trump would consort with sexual abusers

oh right everyone

(not dismissing the scoop, just saying he’s a fucking scumbag)

maura, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:29 (six years ago)

I found the discussion of Manafort's sentence on Twitter last night kind of annoying, not that I disagree with the position at all but there were A LOT of people jumping all over each other to point out that ACTUALLY Manafort's sentence is Fine, the bigger problem is that the entire justice system is insanely unnecessarily punitive. which is totally true, but c'mon guys, can't we all just shit on Manafort for an evening? (have to say I'm very glad to see that's what's happening on this board).

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 8 March 2019 14:33 (six years ago)

it's true, light sentences for people like Manafort will inevitably lead to reduced sentences for non-white people caught with $5 worth of marijuana

frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2019 15:08 (six years ago)

The Miami Herald reports:

Seated at a round table littered with party favors and the paper-cutout footballs that have become tradition at his annual Super Bowl Watch Party, President Donald Trump cheered the New England Patriots and his longtime friend, team owner Robert Kraft, to victory over the Los Angeles Rams on Feb. 3.

Sometime during the party at Trump’s West Palm Beach country club, the president turned in his chair to look over his right shoulder, smiling for a photo with two women at a table behind him.

The woman who snapped the blurry Super Bowl selfie with the president was Li Yang, 45, a self-made entrepreneur from China who started a chain of Asian day spas in South Florida. Over the years, these establishments — many of which operate under the name Tokyo Day Spas — have gained a reputation for offering sexual services.

Most Christian president ever.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:40 (six years ago)

Oh THIS is good:

https://www.axios.com/jared-kushner-ivanka-trump-security-clearance-leak-0a312b92-4a2d-4a70-a7fa-7fb7980d5305.html

The White House this week rejected the committee's request for documents on the process for granting security clearances to staffers.

But the House Oversight Committee in early February had already obtained the leaked documents that detail the entire process, from the spring of 2017 to the spring of 2018, on how both Kushner and Trump were ultimately granted their security clearances.

Kinda brilliant to get Cipollone stonewalling on record only for it to be the case they already had the documents.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 March 2019 15:44 (six years ago)

lmao at omar’s comments on obama

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:45 (six years ago)

I personally wouldn't characterize the situation exactly that way, I think "pretty face and a smile" is a little too glib, but absolutely 100% agree that pushback against Obama's cruelest and most draconian policies is warranted and frankly I'm very grateful to see someone willing to risk being a bit too strident the other way when the vast majority of mainstream liberal discourse bends over backwards to give him a pass.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:52 (six years ago)

couldn't find a chelsea manning thread, so

Former Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning has been jailed for refusing to testify to a grand jury investigating Wikileaks.

U.S. District Judge Claude Hilton ordered Manning to jail Friday after a brief hearing in which Manning confirmed she has no intention of testifying. She told the judge she "will accept whatever you bring upon me."

Manning has said she objects to the secrecy of the grand jury process, and that she already revealed everything she knows at her court martial.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/chelsea-manning-jailed-for-refusing-to-testify-on-wikileaks-1.4327902

Simon H., Friday, 8 March 2019 15:55 (six years ago)

why you gotta bring us down when Paul Manafort's out here living his otherwise blameless life?

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:57 (six years ago)

mao at omar’s comments on obama

― PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Friday, March 8, 2019 10:45 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
for reference

Omar says the “hope and change” offered by Barack Obama was a mirage. Recalling the “caging of kids” at the U.S.-Mexico border and the “droning of countries around the world” on Obama’s watch, she argues that the Democratic president operated within the same fundamentally broken framework as his Republican successor.

“We can’t be only upset with Trump. … His policies are bad, but many of the people who came before him also had really bad policies. They just were more polished than he was,” Omar says. “And that’s not what we should be looking for anymore. We don’t want anybody to get away with murder because they are polished. We want to recognize the actual policies that are behind the pretty face and the smile.”

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:57 (six years ago)

My representative!

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:59 (six years ago)

ilhan omar i luv u

invited to an unexpected ninja presentation (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:03 (six years ago)

Ilhan Omar is Dr. Morbius and I claim my 5

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:04 (six years ago)

I really admire Omar's burn it all downess.

Yerac, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:05 (six years ago)

time is a flat horseshoe

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:08 (six years ago)

wow AOC no longer the realest Congressperson

frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:10 (six years ago)

The amount of oxygen this controversy is sucking up is kind of frustrating

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:13 (six years ago)

friendship ended with alexandria

now ILHAN is my best friend

invited to an unexpected ninja presentation (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:14 (six years ago)

I see that a typical response to Omar's criticism of Obama's "mirage" is that he was

wait for it...

NOT PERFECT

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:14 (six years ago)

not like all those other presidents the movement admires

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:16 (six years ago)

fuck presidents

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:21 (six years ago)

People are really weird about Obama. There was a funny moment in the Patriot Act ep about student debt where Minhaj says "Barack Obama" and the audience all cheer. Then Minhaj goes on to explain how Obama helped create the current student debt crisis by making the DoE the lender and subsidizing the debt servicing industry

rob, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:23 (six years ago)

it's not weird to identify how a pol serves his corporate masters

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:24 (six years ago)

lol I meant his stans are weird, like they've never looked into a single thing he did in office

rob, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:27 (six years ago)

but he was a ROCK STAR

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:32 (six years ago)

that's not really so surprising though given what he represented as the first black president, plus his whole hope + change rhetoric, plus consideration of how most Democrats feel about his predecessor and successor.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:32 (six years ago)

Obama is still probably the most naturally talented politicians I've ever seen, often he'll give a speech and I'll have to remind myself why I don't really like him

frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:34 (six years ago)

it's weird and sorta hilarious how Dubya has been pretty much completely written out of right-wing orthodoxy in the past couple of years. meanwhile Reagan is still lionized. and it seems like the distinction is mostly just a matter of who Trump decided to bash.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:35 (six years ago)

Reagan was already a sort of fictional character while he was president

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:35 (six years ago)

exactly

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:36 (six years ago)

he may as well have been computer generated

omar little, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:38 (six years ago)

For the rhetoric course I teach, my students have to analyze five pieces of oratory to see how they observe Ciceronian canons of rhetoric, among which are Reagan's farewell speech from the Oval Office, Trump's inauguration, and Michelle Obama's DNC speech. I played them in class.

I felt distinct waves of discomfort during Trump's; no one wanted to discuss it much. Lots of students know Reagan by name but had never seen him; several praised how "soothing" he sounded, how hopeful (this is the Shining City on the Hill speech). After Michelle O spoke, I felt the love in the room, a sense that Something Had Been Lost.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:39 (six years ago)

xp
The psychology isn't hard to understand--and I agree with frogbs--it's just depressing how knee-jerk the adulation is especially since in my example the context of student debt had already been established.

rob, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:41 (six years ago)

What the hell:

BREAKING: Pentagon 'Thinks' the Air Force Secretary Has Resigned https://t.co/4v70060eAt

— Katie Bo Williams (@KatieBoWill) March 8, 2019

UPDATE: Air Force officials confirm that Secretary Heather Wilson has submitted resignation and will be accepting a position as president of UT-El Paso. She informed her staff earlier today. According to one member of her staff, nobody knew about this until this morning.

— Sandra Erwin (@Sandra_I_Erwin) March 8, 2019

Bill Shine has quit, per White House. The fox executive didn’t last a year in the West Wing. More to come.

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) March 8, 2019

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 March 2019 17:02 (six years ago)

E Pluribus Unum being changed to LOL Nothing Matters

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:03 (six years ago)

Shucks! I'd just finished Jane Mayer's story about FOX and Bill Shine yesterday!

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:06 (six years ago)

if everyone quits is Trump our king?

rob, Friday, 8 March 2019 17:07 (six years ago)

whee, typical trump friday

27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:11 (six years ago)

He's apparently being routed to a campaign role, but even so.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 March 2019 17:11 (six years ago)

In baseball analysis there is the concept of "replacement-level players." I'm not sure where the baseline is when the doors revolve so quickly.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:16 (six years ago)

“I feel very badly for Paul Manafort,” Mr Trump said. “Both his lawyer, a highly respected man, and a very highly respected judge, the judge, said there was no collusion with Russia. It had nothing with collusion. There was no collusion.

He added: “It’s a collusion hoax, a collusion witch hoax. I don’t collude with Russia. The judge… made the statement that this had nothing to do collusion with Russia.”

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:20 (six years ago)

it's weird and sorta hilarious how Dubya has been pretty much completely written out of right-wing orthodoxy in the past couple of years. meanwhile Reagan is still lionized. and it seems like the distinction is mostly just a matter of who Trump decided to bash.

This is ahistorical. George W Bush had already been more or less disappeared from the Republican hero chart by 2012. He didn't even go to the GOP convention!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:22 (six years ago)

collusion witch hoax

without looking it up I rate the probability at about 20% that there is actually a Guided By Voices album called this

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:22 (six years ago)

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I was going to post literally that!

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:26 (six years ago)

Well, 'song' instead of 'album' so I guess I'm engaging in a witch hoax of my own.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:27 (six years ago)

Beat me to it, both of you.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:27 (six years ago)

The Fall: Live at the Witch Hoaxes

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:29 (six years ago)

It just serves to underscore the extent to which his speech has devolved into an almost meaningless patchwork of words. I suppose it's only a matter of time before he starts regularly bringing his very own neologisms into the mix.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:30 (six years ago)

a very highly respected judge, the judge,

what a coincidence that this very highly respected judge would be named "the judge"

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:34 (six years ago)

"devolved"

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:41 (six years ago)

It's true! My gf noted that Trump sounded almost like a functional human in that Calamari clip from The Apprentice that was floating around last week. He's always been a moron, and especially so since at least the time when he started entertaining political notions, but I think it's safe to say at this point that he's firmly in the 'doddering' phase of his rapid mental decline.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:56 (six years ago)

I see that, but must insist on the reams of Sopan Deb transcripts during the 2016 race which gave form to the advanced written Trump impression. The decline over the last three years isn't quite as meteoric as all that.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 8 March 2019 18:01 (six years ago)

No, I agree, it's isn't meteoric but it is progressive, like the degradation of elastin which with each passing day brings his wizened sac into measurably nearer proximity to the toilet water's surface.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 March 2019 18:15 (six years ago)

nobody striking imagery that

moose; squirrel (silby), Friday, 8 March 2019 18:16 (six years ago)

plop plop fizz fizz oh what a relief it is

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 8 March 2019 18:16 (six years ago)

I still think "Very Rude Elevator Screamers" would make an excellent band name but the downside is it would always remind people of Donald Trump

frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2019 18:38 (six years ago)

lol

This is one of the most anti-semitic things I’ve ever seen. Also, this reveals so much more about you than it does me... https://t.co/IdfGuWcJZu

— Meghan McCain (@MeghanMcCain) March 8, 2019

frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2019 19:10 (six years ago)

pic.twitter.com/NiWT6cclPr

— saeen (@_Saeen_) March 8, 2019

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Friday, 8 March 2019 19:11 (six years ago)

g_d bless eli

maura, Friday, 8 March 2019 19:26 (six years ago)

He's always been a moron, and especially so since at least the time when he started entertaining political notions

NB: this was 1987

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 8 March 2019 19:33 (six years ago)

I knew someone would go there, and it's only natural that that someone would be you, friend.

Okay, political notions that didn't include overtures to Oprah as a running mate.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 March 2019 19:37 (six years ago)

oh, I thought I was agreeing with you

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 8 March 2019 19:43 (six years ago)

was this before or after the brain spiders

How is ABC Television allowed to have a show entitled "Blackish"? Can you imagine the furor of a show, "Whiteish"! Racism at highest level?

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 1, 2014

frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2019 19:43 (six years ago)

His political ambitions have always been so thoroughly mixed up with simple self-promotion that even in 2016, after he had the republican nomination, he apparently viewed the election as the world's biggest infomercial on his own behalf.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 8 March 2019 19:46 (six years ago)

2016, 2019

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 8 March 2019 19:51 (six years ago)

he literally sends out emails hawking 2020 campaign merch

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 8 March 2019 19:53 (six years ago)

(well, the royal "he")

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 8 March 2019 19:54 (six years ago)

It's just a little stunning to look back at eg that interview that leaked prior to the election where he was praising Hillary Clinton, where he doesn't seem completely incurious or like he was raised in a box and only released into the sunlight for the first time somewhere in his twilight years. Yes, again, he's been a huge blowhard dummy throughout his existence as a public figure, but the erosion in recent years is noteworthy. And not dissimilar to the pre-/post-presidency mental decay seen in GWB.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 March 2019 19:58 (six years ago)

Parallel lines on a slow decline
collusion witch hoax

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 March 2019 22:39 (six years ago)

Another excellent Eli Valley cartoon:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0w7HNKX0AAkr00.jpg

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 8 March 2019 23:08 (six years ago)

Anyone post this amazingness?

https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 March 2019 23:42 (six years ago)

Shit, this:

The video is just jaw dropping pic.twitter.com/xRMxo1arwf

— Scott Stedman (@ScottMStedman) March 8, 2019

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 March 2019 23:43 (six years ago)

that fucking family should be put in front of a firing squad

maura, Friday, 8 March 2019 23:46 (six years ago)

Prince, I discovered, seems to have a Trumpian relationship with the truth. He tried to suggest that a car bomb exploded at Baghdad’s Nisour Square “five minutes” before Blackwater guards shot and killed 14 innocent Iraqis on September 16, 2007. I reminded him that there was no such explosion at Nisour Square. He denied that his current company, Frontier Services Group, is planning to build a “training facility” in Xinjiang, China, where more than a million Uighur Muslims are being held in Chinese detention camps, dismissing a press release confirming the news as a mistranslation from Mandarin. I had to inform him that the press release was issued by his own company, FSG, in English.

https://theintercept.com/2019/03/08/erik-prince-trump-mehdi-hasan/

maura, Friday, 8 March 2019 23:47 (six years ago)

Bold Prognostication: Not gonna be the last time we hear "Maybe the transcript is wrong"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 8 March 2019 23:48 (six years ago)

that fucking family should be put in front of a firing squad

― maura, Friday, March 8, 2019 5:46 PM (ten minutes ago)

oh jesus, don't let treeship hear you

27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Friday, 8 March 2019 23:59 (six years ago)

intreeshent proposal

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:00 (six years ago)

Guys we gotta knock this off

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:10 (six years ago)

The firing squad is going to be mega-overbooked in 2019, we need to give them some weekends and bump a few into 2020

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:11 (six years ago)

I would be ok with some Katniss archery squads.

Yerac, Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:31 (six years ago)

These suggestions of utilizing a firing squad against unpopular public figures are just disgraceful. Did you think for one second about how much more satisfying a public stoning would be? For shame.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:33 (six years ago)

Can we just put them all on a diarrhea cruise ship for forever.

Yerac, Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:37 (six years ago)

Wait...is the ship going to be made of diarrhea?

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:41 (six years ago)

powered by

j., Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:45 (six years ago)

Helluva way to go

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:47 (six years ago)

Just everything on the cruise ship gives you diarrhea and everyone on it has diarrhea. And no one is there to clean. It's a diarrhea prison. I have never been on a cruise but this is how I imagine they could go.

Yerac, Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:48 (six years ago)

poopship destroyer, in so many words, then

pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:01 (six years ago)

glad we got that sorted

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:06 (six years ago)


that fucking family should be put in front of a firing squad
― maura, Friday, 8 March 2019 23:46 (yesterday) Permalink

it's actually quite an achievement to have raised two people who became such utterly valueless people as betsy devos and erik prince. i assume some sort of regularly-scheduled satanic rite was involved.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:06 (six years ago)

and in re firing squads, i keep thinking that if these people keep parading their inhumanity in public and get rewarded for it, there is going to be a thirst for retribution that hasn't been seen in a long while. like robbespierre type shit.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:07 (six years ago)

truth and reconciliation defenestration

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:08 (six years ago)

Did we catch this? From this weekend's On the Media:

Mexican officials and U.S. Customs and Border Protection are using a secret database to target journalists and advocates at the southern border. This week, On the Media speaks with a reporter on the list who was detained for questioning by Mexican authorities. ...1. Mari Payton [@MariNBCSD], reporter at NBC 7 in San Diego, and Kitra Cahana, freelance photojournalist, on the secret government database of immigration reporters and advocates.

https://www.npr.org/podcasts/452538775/on-the-media

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:19 (six years ago)

I love our new sheriff so much


http://m.startribune.com/hennepin-county-sheriff-endorses-bill-for-driver-s-licenses-for-immigrants-here-illegally/506909692/

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 9 March 2019 13:43 (six years ago)

if it ends up being Trump v Bernie in the general gonna love the media's wailing and hand-wringing over the ascendant "anti-semitic" left's criticism of Israel being somehow worse than Trump's out n proud "Jews will not replace us" neo nazis & groyper gang.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 9 March 2019 14:32 (six years ago)

The fact that Bernie Sanders is Jewish will make absolutely no difference.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 March 2019 14:43 (six years ago)

republicans being terrible are too dog bites man an angle

maura, Saturday, 9 March 2019 14:51 (six years ago)

i assume some sort of regularly-scheduled satanic rite was involved.
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, March 9, 2019 1:06 AM (thirteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Calvinism + capitalism = monsters like these soulless ghouls

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Saturday, 9 March 2019 15:00 (six years ago)

good morning!

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 March 2019 15:04 (six years ago)

that erik prince clip is so deeply satisfying

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 March 2019 15:20 (six years ago)

yeah it really is. but then i think about being alive in a time when half of America's voting public is like "yep, clearly the transcript got it wrong nothing to see here #MAGA" and it's pretty deflating

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 9 March 2019 16:27 (six years ago)

realDonaldTrump liked this tweet: https://t.co/Gi7GWxwpdI

— Trump Alert (@TrumpsAlert) March 10, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 10 March 2019 05:04 (six years ago)

huh

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 05:11 (six years ago)

is trump conscious or aware enough of twitter to know what 'liking' things means

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 10 March 2019 06:44 (six years ago)

almost certainly not

Simon H., Sunday, 10 March 2019 06:57 (six years ago)

Trump campaign advisor defends White House diversity: “How many black people were in Lincoln’s West Wing?" https://t.co/imYUUn1cez pic.twitter.com/BrinYsqZQq

— The Hill (@thehill) March 10, 2019

Spoiler: It's Katrina Pierson.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 10 March 2019 21:21 (six years ago)

'Israel is the nation-state of Jews alone': Netanyahu responds to TV star who said Arabs are equal citizens https://t.co/emzCmPa3cY

— Haaretz.com (@haaretzcom) March 10, 2019

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 March 2019 01:34 (six years ago)

Why is Bibi not in prison yet, I haven’t been keeping up with that story

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 11 March 2019 01:38 (six years ago)

I believe the NYT suggested some think he is "indispensible" to Israel

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 March 2019 02:11 (six years ago)

meanwhile, icymi while obsessing idiotically over Glenn Greenwald

Footage Contradicts U.S. Claim That Maduro Burned Aid Convoy https://t.co/jXBw2qdecV

— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) March 10, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 March 2019 02:12 (six years ago)

ctrl+f's "greenw"

...why are you shouting at yourself?

steven, soda jerk (sic), Monday, 11 March 2019 02:17 (six years ago)

ref to idiot thread

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 March 2019 02:18 (six years ago)

That was already posted twice in the Venezuela thread.

Frederik B, Monday, 11 March 2019 07:59 (six years ago)

🔥Mueller has “completed his report. It is said to recommend indicting 3 of @realDonaldTrump’s children—Don Jr, Ivanka & Eric—as well as Jared Kushner...Mueller wants Trump himself to be indicted. Barr is said to oppose this.”

Hence, the delay...🧐https://t.co/7Htd7mOhJS

— Dr. Dena Grayson (@DrDenaGrayson) March 10, 2019

what is spectator.us

frogbs, Monday, 11 March 2019 13:24 (six years ago)

The Spectator is a right wing UK magazine.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Monday, 11 March 2019 13:26 (six years ago)

... don't know if they're connected.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Monday, 11 March 2019 13:27 (six years ago)

there's a 'go to spectator uk' link at the top of the page which leads to the right-wing uk magazine, so i assume they must be?

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 March 2019 13:29 (six years ago)

The columnist had predicted — in a piece published earlier this week in The Spectator — that Mueller would submit his report in an official capacity on Friday, March 8. But that did not happen. Cockburn then went back to his sources to find out why his earlier prediction was wrong. That is when he was told by his sources that the report had been scheduled for a March 8 delivery, but the disagreement between Mueller and Barr over an indictment caused the announcement to be postponed.

see i'm still right

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 11 March 2019 13:34 (six years ago)

I thought that guy who predicted the rapture died

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 11 March 2019 13:54 (six years ago)

At a recent round table meeting of business executives, & long after formally introducing Tim Cook of Apple, I quickly referred to Tim + Apple as Tim/Apple as an easy way to save time & words. The Fake News was disparagingly all over this, & it became yet another bad Trump story!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 11, 2019

but he just said yesterday that he actually said "Tim Cook Apple"

frogbs, Monday, 11 March 2019 14:17 (six years ago)

yeah but that's a complete sentence. no one really believes he's spoken one of those.

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 11 March 2019 14:20 (six years ago)

this happened on wednesday - good to know trump's definitely not been stewing on it for nearly a week before taking to twitter to explain that his brain isn't melting, actually, how dare u

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 March 2019 14:21 (six years ago)

Holy shit, he used a big word almost correctly.

By which I mean "recent."

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2019 14:26 (six years ago)

I know it shouldn't be shocking to see the President of the United States get himself caught up in such an obvious and pointless lie, and yet here we are. it's like I'm not fully desensitized yet

frogbs, Monday, 11 March 2019 14:28 (six years ago)

not to mention the idea of Donald Trump trying to save "time & words"

frogbs, Monday, 11 March 2019 14:31 (six years ago)

when you spend 2+ hours humping the flag and screaming about socialism to a room full of mutants you gotta make up that time on the back end.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 11 March 2019 14:32 (six years ago)

Is there like a filter I can use to have every presidential utterance sent directly to my spam folder?

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 March 2019 14:35 (six years ago)

I mean, give me a heads up if he announces that he's sent the missiles a-flying but I'm otherwise just done being reminded of his blighted existence.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 March 2019 14:37 (six years ago)

DONALD TRUMP ON MARCH 12, 2019: "actually I said tim cuck apple"

theorizing your yells (katherine), Monday, 11 March 2019 14:42 (six years ago)

The American public could take a page from the book of Trump's parents re: neglecting the living fuck out of him.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 March 2019 14:45 (six years ago)

yeah, I don't think I recall anything GWB said or did in the final year he was in office. I wish I could tune Trump out like that.

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 11 March 2019 14:52 (six years ago)

At least GWB was smart enough the stfu during the financial crisis.

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 March 2019 14:54 (six years ago)

Dem 2020 convention: Milwaukee

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 March 2019 15:11 (six years ago)

good morning!

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2019 15:16 (six years ago)

why would they want fucking Milhaukee when they can have Miami

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2019 15:16 (six years ago)

tribute to recently-departed working-class hero penny marshall iirc

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 March 2019 15:19 (six years ago)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b9/SawyerBronzeFonz2008.jpg/200px-SawyerBronzeFonz2008.jpg

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 March 2019 15:20 (six years ago)

that's an hour away, should I try to go ???

frogbs, Monday, 11 March 2019 15:20 (six years ago)

xpost, but of course, great minds, etc.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 March 2019 15:20 (six years ago)

!!!

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 March 2019 15:21 (six years ago)

why would they want fucking Milhaukee when they can have Miami

presumably surrendering FL to Yam already

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 March 2019 15:22 (six years ago)

I like Milwaukee, fun town

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 11 March 2019 15:27 (six years ago)

a buncha late night writers furiously pitching beer jokes right now

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 11 March 2019 15:30 (six years ago)

presumably surrendering FL to Yam sea level rise already

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2019 15:31 (six years ago)

Milwaukee's great.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2019 15:58 (six years ago)

Guess they want to make sure they don’t accidentally forget to campaign in the upper Midwest again

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:06 (six years ago)

that's why Clinton lost, recall

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:08 (six years ago)

Pelosi:

There have been increasing calls, including from some of your members, for impeachment of the president.

I’m not for impeachment. This is news. I’m going to give you some news right now because I haven’t said this to any press person before. But since you asked, and I’ve been thinking about this: Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he’s just not worth it.

https://t.co/VJq71C7F83

Simon H., Monday, 11 March 2019 20:34 (six years ago)

She's right. Why announce what you're going to do before the evidence has accumulated and anyone has voted? The House Judiciary Committee has launched an investigation. That's how Watergate began.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2019 20:37 (six years ago)

healthy government

To slow down Democrats, Colorado Republicans requested a 2,000-page bill be read in its entirety. But Democrats then decided to have the bill read by a computer at a speed incomprehensible to humans https://t.co/uZxQfOIUJf via @denverpost

— Mitchell Byars (@mitchellbyars) March 11, 2019

mookieproof, Monday, 11 March 2019 20:50 (six years ago)

maybe i'm giving pelosi too much credit, but there's an argument that trump is the ideal candidate to run against in 2020, and impeachment is likely to be a distraction from that, perhaps even one that benefits him.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 11 March 2019 20:53 (six years ago)

enh fuckit let’s just hand control of the government over to skynet at this point why not xp

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 March 2019 20:53 (six years ago)

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1PlKQyaneAvKE

contains pieces the size of a child's esophagus (Sanpaku), Monday, 11 March 2019 22:13 (six years ago)

It's true that, if the country at large does not endorse impeachment, then pursuing it will only cause a reaction by a majority of voters against the Democrats in 2020. Pursuing investigations, otoh, does not carry the same dangers as continuing straight to impeachment proceedings.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 11 March 2019 22:25 (six years ago)

I'm actually with Pelosi on this. Impeachment qua impeachment is way too charged. Far better to just investigate and investigate and investigate and report the results of those investigations and keep a running tally of all of it in easy-for-even-morons-to-understand form so every Democrat running for office, from the local level on up, can run on the platform "Donald Trump is a criminal and a shambling mountain of garbage in vaguely human form - vote Democrat in 2020."

Either that, or hire a disgruntled ex-military sniper to camp out in the woods near Mar-a-Lago. I'm good with either one.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 11 March 2019 23:06 (six years ago)

Impeachment is not removal -- the Senate ain't moving an inch on removal. It doesn't mean you don't investigate. Plus, she's the speaker. She can change her mind.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2019 23:07 (six years ago)

Yeah seriously. I have friends whining and it's like hmm...do I publicly as Speaker indicate impeachment is coming or a high possibility when the House investigation just launched and Mueller report is forthcoming? Where AT BEST both investigations miraculously present open and shut cases and somehow the GOP discovers scruples.

Or, more likely, the narrative that the House investigation has already made its conclusion and is looking for confirmation bias facts only, which could disengage some indie voters, plus be a PR nightmare for her with her leftist supporters if she has to reverse course.

Why choose the option of zero flexibility which only placates your base and leaves you no room to maneuver? She's just preventing cheap, easy sound bytes. Lesser ranking reps have more latitude to be reckless than she does.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 March 2019 23:21 (six years ago)

The most annoying thing is the press changing her quite cutting statement - "he's just not worth it" - to "[impeachment is] just not worth it".

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 11 March 2019 23:44 (six years ago)

I've no doubt Pelosi has read Laurence Tribe's To End a Presidency (review in The Atlantic). I haven't read the book, but the review offers a really chilling reason why impeachment isn't worth it (at least until Trump becomes an immanent risk of nuclear conflict): like or not, an impeachment campaign risks a widespread outbreak of right-wing extremist terrorism, or worse. Quotes from Tribe:

Well-justified calls to impeach the president can simultaneously empower him, harm his political opponents, and make his removal from office less likely … Because removing a truly determined tyrant may unleash havoc, the risks of impeaching a president are apt to be most extreme precisely when ending his tenure is most necessary.

Many Americans who voted for Trump view themselves as belonging to a victimized, disenfranchised class that has finally discovered its champion. For some of them, Trump’s appeal is less what he will accomplish programmatically than whom he will attack personally. Were Trump removed from office by political elites in Washington, DC—even based on clear evidence that he had grossly abused power—some of his supporters would surely view the decision as an illegitimate coup. Indeed, some right-wing leaders have already denounced the campaign to remove Trump as a prelude to civil war. This rhetoric, too, escapes reality and indulges pernicious tendencies toward apocalyptic thinking about the impeachment power.

contains pieces the size of a child's esophagus (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 00:26 (six years ago)

That argument is making a weird (and unsupported by evidence to date) assumption that the right-wing extremist terrorism isn't coming anyway.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 00:42 (six years ago)

there's an argument that trump is the ideal candidate to run against in 2020

That's what they said in 2016

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 01:00 (six years ago)

good lord the past few years have been fucked up

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 01:20 (six years ago)

That's what they said in 2016

In 2016 voters could only theorize what a Trump presidency would look like. He encouraged them to project whatever wishes and desires they wanted onto him with his many outlandish promises about "winning", bringing back industrial and manufacturing jobs, inflicting pain on CHI-NUH, providing everyone with great cheap medical insurance, making Mexico pay for a border wall, etc. Like any good con, the marks were willing, even eager, to be conned.

Now they've opened the package and have seen what's inside. Not every Trump voter from 2016 is happy about his record so far. For example, there are a lot of farmers in the Midwest who aren't stupid and see exactly how much his policies are costing them, down to the dollar. He's not a blank projection screen any more.

But, I think it's a mistake to see the 2020 election as a simple yes-no referendum on Trump. There will be another major party candidate to compare him to and most 2016 Trump voters are conditioned to view ANY democratic opponent with a jaundiced eye. As of today, he would easily claim more than 40% of the vote against anyone the democrats nominate. It will still be a battle. It won't be the Triumph of the Left.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 01:24 (six years ago)

I think the correct pronunciation is JI-NUH.

clemenza, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 01:36 (six years ago)

My God, it's not difficult. You can call for his head all you want. She can't. She does it now, they hit her with "vendetta" when the time comes.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) March 12, 2019

jaymc, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 02:28 (six years ago)

^ A subject where Richard M. Nixon should, of all people, know what he's talking about.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 03:27 (six years ago)

obviously not surprised at this point but it never stops being depressing how the GOP reaction to a Dem/liberal/left proposal to resolve a problem is not "We think there's a better way to fix it, which is..." but "This problem does not exist at all and you're insane for even suggesting it does." I'm not going to reprint it but in this case I'm talking about Trump signal-boosting some former Greenpeace idiot who's still out here in the year of our lord 2019 denying climate change exists. a Googled this fool's name and saw headlines where he'd referred to AOC as a "twit" so that was enough for me, fuck investigating this asshole any further.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:27 (six years ago)

Yeah, in keeping with their death cult status they're uninterested in solving problems which might hinder the impending eschaton.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:31 (six years ago)

good morning!

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:31 (six years ago)

I haven’t been following the news much over the past few days. But I guess trump told a bunch of donors that “democrats hate Jews”? Did I get that right? Sarah sanders, when asked if it’s true that trump thinks that “democrats hate Jews”, during the first press briefing in FORTY-TWO days, said “you’ll have to ask the democrats that”.

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:32 (six years ago)

Just now realizing that there are no democrats who are also Jews. Very supisious!!!1!

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:34 (six years ago)

the reporter will have to ask the democrats what Trump thinks? 🤔

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:37 (six years ago)

They call me Mr. Jexit!

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:13 (six years ago)

anyone ready to have their morning ruined

Donald Trump takes off his hat at Mar-a-lago - forgetting he's not wearing his toupee. pic.twitter.com/CZQ2B9a66O

— Paul Lee Ticks (@PaulLeeTicks) March 11, 2019

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:16 (six years ago)

Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly. Pilots are no longer needed, but rather computer scientists from MIT. I see it all the time in many products. Always seeking to go one unnecessary step further, when often old and simpler is far better. Split second decisions are....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 12, 2019

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:17 (six years ago)

....needed, and the complexity creates danger. All of this for great cost yet very little gain. I don’t know about you, but I don’t want Albert Einstein to be my pilot. I want great flying professionals that are allowed to easily and quickly take control of a plane!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 12, 2019

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:18 (six years ago)

what the fuck, what has prompted this latest madness

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:18 (six years ago)

let's talk about planes now. the pilots are flying them up too damn high. it's dangerous. I don't like it. got to make them lower

— wint (@dril) August 18, 2014

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:19 (six years ago)

omg, trump look so much like my dad without his toupee. (although he probably looks like a lot of dads).

Yerac, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:20 (six years ago)

your dad has an unconvincing computer-generated forehead too?

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:24 (six years ago)

pretty much.

Yerac, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:26 (six years ago)

:D

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:34 (six years ago)

anyway, can't believe the star of one flew over ther cuckoo's nest would do this

Trump's proposed budget would steer $20,000,000 to a hospital project backed by golfer Jack Nicklaus. Nicklaus lobbied Trump on the golf course in Florida. Trump personally directed HHS to earmark the funds, Politico reports. https://t.co/KcQN4gVxkK

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) March 12, 2019

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:35 (six years ago)

Wonder how much tiger’s projects will get (he was on that same golf outing with Nicklaus)

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:36 (six years ago)

That hospital's just two miles from me.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:37 (six years ago)

This is the most bizarre technique for blowing out birthday candles that I’ve ever witnessed. Mitt Romney is a deeply weird dude. pic.twitter.com/kLGuJawDpv

— Bradford Pearson (@BradfordPearson) March 12, 2019

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:44 (six years ago)

oh god hairless trump ;_;

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:45 (six years ago)

Without clicking on the link, I wonder if he uses a blow dryer.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:45 (six years ago)

The only explanation for those airplane tweets I can come up with is that Trump asked to fly Air Force one

rob, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:45 (six years ago)

Donald Trump Awards Donald Trump Trump's 20th Trump Golf Club Championship

Physically, the man looks like some sort of hideous British dessert—some sort of meringue that’s been boiled for a day inside a pair of men’s underpants and somehow tastes exactly like baloney—and stands like he’s in the middle of a windstorm. A thin rivulet of beige liquid has been leaking from his ears since at least 2014.

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:45 (six years ago)

bologna boiled in old mayo

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:49 (six years ago)

i've missed romneybot, glad to see he's every bit as tantalisingly almost-human as ever

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:49 (six years ago)

Mormons aren't allowed to blow twinkies.

Yerac, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:51 (six years ago)

The airplane tweets are about boeing's planes being grounded.

Yerac, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:52 (six years ago)

Tbf that method does more or less avoid blowing your spit germs over everyone's cake. I don't hate it.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:54 (six years ago)

"What are you guys gonna have?" - always a classic birthday cake joke

jmm, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:54 (six years ago)

@CBSThisMorning
.@SenJoniErnst & @SenMikeLee are unveiling a new proposal for paid family leave.

The "Cradle Act" would allow new parents to use Social Security savings to pay for time off after birth/adoption. Users would then delay their retirement to pay the money back.

paid-by-yourself family leave

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 15:36 (six years ago)

Are they fucking serious

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 15:37 (six years ago)

hell yeah, that's how you win the hearts and minds of voters

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 15:46 (six years ago)

Do plane crashes in Africa killing all 157 people on board not get reported in the US or something?

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 15:47 (six years ago)

The plane crash isn't what prompted his tweet storm. The grounding of the aircraft model involved in many countries did.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 15:53 (six years ago)

I want to return to when planes were simple enough to be flown safely by drunks

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:07 (six years ago)

I am scared of flying so of course I watch a lot of plane crash re-enactment shows. The idea that boeing put this new flight feature in the control system of the plane type that crashed twice now and didn't notify or train people on it terrifies me.

Yerac, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:09 (six years ago)

The FAA hasn't grounded it yet. Insists it is safe. They may be right but seems like a better idea to be safe?

Trump, despite his tweets, just oversaw the sale of 100 of these planes while in Vietnam...cos of course he did.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:42 (six years ago)

see it all the time in many products. Always seeking to go one unnecessary step further, when often old and simpler is far better.

Maybe he should step back on Twitter and go back to yelling at whoever crosses the village square

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:45 (six years ago)

Of course Trump is feting the notion of 'old and simple'. Of course he is.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:02 (six years ago)

Can't stop, won't stop: Ilhan Omar drives the Fox hordes nuts again.

Omar on Trump and Obama: "one is human, the other is really not" pic.twitter.com/Mwr3TWS09P

— TPM Livewire (@TPMLiveWire) March 12, 2019

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:06 (six years ago)

Boeing should be getting dragged in front of a house committee tbh

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:08 (six years ago)

Can’t believe my state keeps giving tax breaks to those fuckers when they just spend the money shipping jobs to North Carolina and apparently rails of coke for the avionics engineers

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:09 (six years ago)

Tomorrow, he suggests replacing Obamacare with leeches

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:14 (six years ago)

it's interesting to see a Dem like Omar sussing out what any number of Republican reps have for a long time: she's going to be reelected by her district not the national press

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:31 (six years ago)

that's a real good answer, in terms of not retreating while addressing the disparity between the Grifter and... others

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:33 (six years ago)

More people need to point out re: Trump that taking on a vaguely-human shape does not in and of itself a human being make.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:44 (six years ago)

Chuck Tingle tried to tell us.

furious trump unable to control his blinding crab rage, spilling over with bubbling void tar as he attempts to maintain his human form pic.twitter.com/7d15USDTqM

— Chuck Tingle (@ChuckTingle) October 10, 2016

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 18:12 (six years ago)

that's karl malone's handiwork iirc

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 18:23 (six years ago)

Do plane crashes in Africa killing all 157 people on board not get reported in the US or something?

Africa is a shithole country and/or countries iirc

steven, soda jerk (sic), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 18:57 (six years ago)

Lol, yes that is mine. I’m guessing more people saw that in chuck tingle’s tweet then saw it as the cover image to doonaldjtrump.com, which is why I made it in the first place.

I blame boing boing, who kept using it for their articles without crediting me, even after I contacted them and was told they would stop using it (which was lame because I didn’t want them to stop using it, I wanted them just give me an illustration credit)

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 19:38 (six years ago)

I didn't know that was yours! I've remembered it ever since.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 20:24 (six years ago)

I blame boing boing,

Great song!!

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 20:28 (six years ago)

hearing that to the tune of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR9d4ESlpHY

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 21:12 (six years ago)

Don't blame it on the sunshine
Don't blame it on the good times
Blame it on the Boing Boing

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 21:14 (six years ago)

wow i didn't know Karl Malone wrote Chuck Tingle's entire bibliography. that's cool

⅋ (crüt), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 21:35 (six years ago)

Karl Malone has talent for more than just basketball.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 22:59 (six years ago)

I can't say I'm thrilled!

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 23:00 (six years ago)

The Fake News photoshopped pictures of Melania, then propelled conspiracy theories that it’s actually not her by my side in Alabama and other places. They are only getting more deranged with time!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 13, 2019

fake Melania confirmed

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:17 (six years ago)

remember

President Trump pointed to a window in the White House residence, and said: “She’s doing great. She’s looking at us right there.” Reporters turned to look at the spot he indicated, but there was no sign of the first lady. https://t.co/8zLn4h6YPz

— Dan Zak (@MrDanZak) May 25, 2018

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:41 (six years ago)

still can't tell whether "fake melania" is a joke or not, either way it's not funny and i don't give a shit

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:42 (six years ago)

60% joke, 40% I wouldn’t put it past him-ism

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:51 (six years ago)

Well at this point a certain percentage of real Melania is probably fake anyway.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:56 (six years ago)

Fake Melania is so dumb and everyone participating should feel bad

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:04 (six years ago)

hey don't disparage Fake Melania like that! she my not be the smartest Melania but she has a good heart

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:06 (six years ago)

I must be dumb then because I'm really starting to think there might be a fake Melania

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:06 (six years ago)

if there really is a fake melania it's definitely funny

Simon H., Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:08 (six years ago)

I mean _I_ believe the reason she vanished for like, 3 months that one time is because he beat the shit out of her so I won’t look down on anyone’s baseless theories involving DJT and this administration

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:09 (six years ago)

the real Melania will never be as fake and dumb as her husband, but she is v definitely both

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:12 (six years ago)

I must be dumb then because I'm really starting to think there might be a fake Melania

― frogbs, Wednesday, March 13, 2019 8:06 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i have a feeling if i searched this board for "fake melania" it'd just be a sequence of frogbs posts so... we know

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:14 (six years ago)

Is it accurate to call someone 'fake' when she's been slowly replaced cell-by-cell through overexposure to the Thing-like organism posing as her husband? I mean even though those dogs belied their apparent doghood when they erupted into a mass of fleshy tendrils I don't know that I would've called them 'fake' per se.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:17 (six years ago)

We're clearly living in a weird horror story at this point so I'm not going to be too hasty in dismissing any possible scenario.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:18 (six years ago)

Fake Melania is so dumb that ... it's as likely to be as real as everything else dumb about this man and his life.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:21 (six years ago)

agree

some of these posts re melania are....super weird tho

Simon H., Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:24 (six years ago)

good morning!

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:25 (six years ago)

(I guess because we're also at the point in my personal lifetime when credulity is at an all-time high and critical faculties at an all-time low, I should point out that I'm 100% goofing on the notion of fake Melania and that my mind has not appreciably eroded as a result of the slow-motion collapse of reality to which we're all bearing witness.)

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:27 (six years ago)

This presidency is so surreal that I really don't know where I would draw the line when it comes to something so ridiculous I'd dismiss it outright.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:28 (six years ago)

simon otm

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:31 (six years ago)

i think we're all overlooking the possibiity that there's never been a real melania at all

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:34 (six years ago)

https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2019/01/03/magazine/04-m-night-shyamalan.w570.h712.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:36 (six years ago)

ok i give up enjoy yourselves i guess

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:36 (six years ago)

BN also otm

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:38 (six years ago)

fuck does the 'm' in m. night shyamalan stand for... melania?

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:39 (six years ago)

the fake melania shit being reported by real news sources makes me want to slap people.

Yerac, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:41 (six years ago)

and otm that it's not even funny.

Yerac, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:41 (six years ago)

slow news day eh

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:42 (six years ago)

fuck does the 'm' in m. night shyamalan stand for... melania?

― kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:39 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No, the 'M' is short for "M. Night Shyamalan"

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:43 (six years ago)

everyone involved in this historically terrible fiasco of a government, however they've opted in, are worthy of scorn, derision, ridicule and potential criminal investigation
i am not excepting Barron, who I fully expect to be plotting an overthrow of canada as we speak
but maybe, in general, focusing on actual horrible things they're doing instead of invented craziness is a wiser route

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:43 (six years ago)

I mean all else aside it's very hard for me to square the existence of a person who would voluntarily put themselves in a situation where they risk regularly seeing Donald Trump's naked body.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:45 (six years ago)

focusing on actual horrible things they're doing instead of invented craziness is a wiser route

this is nobel and all but like you said in the start of the post it's all a shitty mess and nobody cares about anything real anyways

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:55 (six years ago)

*noble

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:56 (six years ago)

I thought she was in hiding waiting for the swelling etc to reduce from having A Little Work Done.

suzy, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:58 (six years ago)

heh

ABJ: “It’s not particularly persuasive to argue that an investigation hasn’t found anything when you lied to the investigators”

— Andrew Prokop (@awprokop) March 13, 2019


"Saying I'm sorry I got caught is not an inspiring plea for leniency." - Judge in Manafort trial

— John Santucci (@Santucci) March 13, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:59 (six years ago)

ABJ announces the sentence:

60 months on Count 1, 30 months of that served concurrently with EDVA sentence
13 months on Count 2, to be served consecutively

— Andrew Prokop (@awprokop) March 13, 2019

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:02 (six years ago)

So satisfying that Manafort will be ever-so-slightly older when he's finally released from prison. Wave goodbye to your late sixties and maybe even a little bit of your early seventies, Paul!

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:06 (six years ago)

He's going to miss at least a couple seasons of his favorite shows. So delicious, this justice.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:07 (six years ago)

So 73 months makes last week's 47 months moot. It's an improvement.

27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:08 (six years ago)

so it's 43 months added to 47, right? Minus 9 already served. 6.75 years.

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:10 (six years ago)

oh, I misread that tweet

27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:12 (six years ago)

Guys it’s gonna amount to a few more months before he’s pardoned anyway

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:13 (six years ago)

Am I correct in assuming a pardon will also wipe out the $25 million he’s been ordered to pay back?

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:14 (six years ago)

i'm just curious which "photoshopped image" DJT is referring to? the Alabama thing was a video. did he take a real picture of his wife to be a Photoshop?

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:16 (six years ago)

Note: Donald Trump doesn't actually understand what 'photoshopping' means or entails.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:19 (six years ago)

'photoshop' is just another way that his brain worms have latched onto to say 'fake news'

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:20 (six years ago)

Do I gotta Snopes dis sumbitch for yall

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:23 (six years ago)

Eh, I'm given to understand that Snopes is totally photoshop. Sad!

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:36 (six years ago)

I should probably remind those here that Melania is easily the most disengaged presidential spouse of my lifetime. she is irrelevant. even her husband gets her name wrong sometimes (iirc, "Melanie").

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:42 (six years ago)

come on Be Best Aimless

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:47 (six years ago)

Paul Manafort has just been charged in New York by @ManhattanDA with Residential Mortgage Fraud and other crimes

— Aaron Katersky (@AaronKatersky) March 13, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:47 (six years ago)

It is still funny that the media agreed with him that the photos are really Melania, shit at unflattering angles, or photographed on low grade TVs

So he is presented with an open goal and whiffs by saying the pics are Photoshopped, implying he agrees the photos aren't actually her.

Which is not what he meant but lol

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:47 (six years ago)

*shot

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:47 (six years ago)

Ideally State of New York has several other sealed indictments ready to play, sort of the opposite of the Get Out Of Jail Free card.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:51 (six years ago)

Also, Trump can't pardon him for any New York shit.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 17:00 (six years ago)

What do you call an EGOT for crimes https://t.co/dEhVOT6iPx

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) March 13, 2019

my future think tank (stevie), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 17:19 (six years ago)

is that 4 jurisdictions? i musta lost one

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 17:23 (six years ago)

Also, Trump can't pardon him for any New York shit.

― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, March 13, 2019 1:00 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post P

is this true?

k3vin k., Wednesday, 13 March 2019 17:30 (six years ago)

Yes

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 17:34 (six years ago)

Trump can only pardon people for federal crimes.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 17:43 (six years ago)

EGOT em all

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 17:46 (six years ago)

Well well

Nadler: “Unlike in the hearing room, Whitaker did not deny that the president told him to discuss the Michael Cohen case and personnel decisions in the Southern District.”

— Nicholas Fandos (@npfandos) March 13, 2019

“While he was acting AG, Whitaker was directly involved in conversations about where to fire 1 or more US attorneys.”

Nadler says Whitaker also in convos re: “scope of SDNY USA Berman’s recusal & whether the Southern District went too far in pursuing the campaign finance case”

— Nicholas Fandos (@npfandos) March 13, 2019

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 21:01 (six years ago)

so is this another one of those "holy shit members of the Trump admin committed felonies in broad daylight" dealies that everyone's just gonna forget about in 2 days

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 21:08 (six years ago)

I guess if you are going to break bad, might as well go all the way. That whole thing with Trump having pictures at the Superbowl with the Chinese woman that owned Day Spa's implicated by the FBI in a sex trafficking crime and the owner of the Pat's implicated did not even seem to make much of a blip.

earlnash, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 23:26 (six years ago)

Well, he doesn't even know her, right?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 March 2019 00:31 (six years ago)

Have we ever seen this degree of brazen, pathological mendacity in American public life? One day he makes a harmless slip of the tongue, something any mentally balanced person would laugh off.

— George Conway (@gtconway3d) March 14, 2019

omar little, Thursday, 14 March 2019 00:38 (six years ago)

(long ranting thread)

omar little, Thursday, 14 March 2019 00:39 (six years ago)

that thread is the question i ask every fucking day for the past... 4 years?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 14 March 2019 01:02 (six years ago)

does George Conway ever ask this question over the dinner table while looking into his beloved wife's eyes

steven, soda jerk (sic), Thursday, 14 March 2019 01:18 (six years ago)

It's how he starts foreplay.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 March 2019 01:25 (six years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLjtdiNLK10

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 March 2019 01:35 (six years ago)

Was at a non-political function recently and GC was in the house, wandering around while everyone tried to keep their distance. He is a certifiable schlub in person.

tobo73, Thursday, 14 March 2019 01:47 (six years ago)

Birch Bayh has died.

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:30 (six years ago)

*stereotypically white sounding voice* as a centrist i dont have strong feelings about this one way or another

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:33 (six years ago)

The House just passed a resolution 420-0 calling for the public release of the Mueller report. https://t.co/XoC5CNBFb1

— Rebecca Ballhaus (@rebeccaballhaus) March 14, 2019

my future think tank (stevie), Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:40 (six years ago)

https://apnews.com/b7c693b602744f63bddd2efbf52ef5c6

my future think tank (stevie), Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:41 (six years ago)

420 huh, nice *tokes*

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:43 (six years ago)

Yam Republic dogwhistle

Trump to Breitbart on how the left plays tough: "I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump — I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point and then it would be very bad, very bad."

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) March 14, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:54 (six years ago)

Mmmm yeah how does the military feel about that statement

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:56 (six years ago)

wait Bikers For Trump is supporting Trump this year?

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 14 March 2019 17:06 (six years ago)

huge if true

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Thursday, 14 March 2019 17:11 (six years ago)

My senator Tillis actually bothered to write a whole op-Ed criticizing the declaration iirc. I mean I guess he could always still vote no but that would make the op-Ed a pretty weird flex.

― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, March 3, 2019 7:37 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I should know better by now than to ever underestimate the spinelessness of these ham-brained fucks.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 14 March 2019 19:13 (six years ago)

Gotta say, though, 59-41 is a bigger slap from the Senate than I expected.

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 14 March 2019 19:16 (six years ago)

VETO!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 14, 2019

is this how he thinks vetoing works

frogbs, Thursday, 14 March 2019 19:31 (six years ago)

"i declare Veto"

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 14 March 2019 19:34 (six years ago)

Veto O'Rourke

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 March 2019 19:35 (six years ago)

prezzing by twit

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 March 2019 19:41 (six years ago)

I want to skip to the chapter where we find out who exactly has what dirt on Lindsey Graham.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 March 2019 19:57 (six years ago)

He went on a "charm offensive" last week or so, doing the interview rounds, and he was wholly unconvincing. "When I agree with the president I will say so, and when I disagree with the president I will say so, too." He brought up Syria and the murder of the journalist in SA as areas in which he disagrees with the president, and the interviewer pressed him and asked, basically, so what are you going to do about it? And he gave the same runaround. "I will do what I can when I can, etc., sometimes behind closed doors, but I am not going to confront this president just for the sake of blah blah..." "I am the same Lindsey Graham I have always been blah blah." "My good friend John McCain didn't agree with Obama on everything but offered to support him when he could, and I am doing the same with blah blah."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 March 2019 20:56 (six years ago)

He also conceded (no surprise) that he's in the business of politics, so he knows it's more politically beneficial to support Trump than spar with him.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 March 2019 20:56 (six years ago)

yeah i'm just going to be over here assuming the absolute worst about Lindsey

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 14 March 2019 21:01 (six years ago)

(re dirt)

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 14 March 2019 21:01 (six years ago)

why stop there

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 March 2019 21:02 (six years ago)

Eh, the worst is bodies in the basement. I think he just fucks/is fucked by men.

Dunning-Kruger Overdrive (Sanpaku), Thursday, 14 March 2019 21:03 (six years ago)

I honestly believe he's more terrified about the latter being made public than the former.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 March 2019 21:19 (six years ago)

ehh Lindsey has plenty of shit to give him a hard time about let's let this stuff a rest

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 14 March 2019 21:21 (six years ago)

you know who else has got to be a closet case is orrin hatch

macropuente (map), Thursday, 14 March 2019 21:50 (six years ago)

we could ask his son but he is no longer on ILX

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 March 2019 21:55 (six years ago)

ftr my suspicions have nothing to do with Graham being a closet case and everything to do with him being a kiddie fucker

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 15 March 2019 02:02 (six years ago)

agree with carne asada

Dan S, Friday, 15 March 2019 02:43 (six years ago)

So Thom Tillis NC writes a prominent op-ed in the Washington Post arguing against Trump’s emergency declaration and then votes to uphold it?

Dan S, Friday, 15 March 2019 05:31 (six years ago)

Is it not more likely that Lindsay's always been an awful piece of shit, and he saw a career opportunity in opposing Trump, but that didn't pan out so now he's firmly on the Trump train? Have none of us ever watched a gangster movie before?

my future think tank (stevie), Friday, 15 March 2019 09:23 (six years ago)

No surprises, but this morn Two-Scoops went from tweeting about helping New Zealand to the "Jewexodus" for the Democratic Party & Obama spying on him (both latter stories from Fox and Friends, natch).

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 March 2019 13:08 (six years ago)

Excuse me, "Jexodus".

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 March 2019 13:09 (six years ago)

who knew you could link the word exodus to the jews

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 15 March 2019 13:13 (six years ago)

"@twitt_be_cray: @realDonaldTrump go fuck yourself you dumb fuck" When was the last time you had a date-such terrible language (& picture).

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 24, 2013

frogbs, Friday, 15 March 2019 13:24 (six years ago)

Interesting development - Mueller not done with Rick Gates. Since Mueller *is* done with Manafort, that means Mueller is working toward someone else with Gates ...

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 March 2019 14:38 (six years ago)

Would love to see Tom Barrack indicted

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 15 March 2019 15:31 (six years ago)

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-politics-beto-orourke/

theorizing your yells (katherine), Friday, 15 March 2019 16:40 (six years ago)

who knew that the "cramped calves" tweet was a reference to beto's writing all along

http://www.textfiles.com/groups/CDC/song.of.the.cow

theorizing your yells (katherine), Friday, 15 March 2019 16:40 (six years ago)

ULTRA TRENDY: "Well... the reason I don't go in the pit, is... well... see, I uh... broke my leg... yeah, I broke my leg... and I'm not wearing a cast because... uh... because... because I'm tough! Yeah... I'm tough... I don't need a cast.... By the way, did you get the new Sex Pistols bootleg?" -- an actual thing beto said this is INCREDIBLE

theorizing your yells (katherine), Friday, 15 March 2019 16:48 (six years ago)

self x-post re Barrack

Today, @PostKranish @marycjordan @thamburger and I took a close look at the Chairman’s Global Dinner, the glitzy kick-off to Donald Trump’s 2017 inaugural. (1/7) https://t.co/6s279V1VNk

— Rosalind Helderman (@PostRoz) March 15, 2019

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 15 March 2019 16:58 (six years ago)

Per pool: Trump called the terror attack a "horrible, horrible thing" and said he called the PM to convey US "sorrow," then turned to “crimes of all kinds coming through our southern border.” He added, "People hate the word invasion, but that’s what it is.”

someone really need to deal with these invaders maybe take it into their own hand and show them where they belong

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 March 2019 20:07 (six years ago)

I just had that increasingly infrequent shock of realization and disbelief that Donald Trump is the president of the united states

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 March 2019 20:12 (six years ago)

I just had that increasingly infrequent shock of realization and disbelief that Donald Trump is the president of the united states


it’s the worst kind of bummer

maura, Friday, 15 March 2019 23:58 (six years ago)

Direction and view of economy by young voters and older voters. For first time, we see younger voters less optimistic about direction of US. pic.twitter.com/D91ay4ov9o

— Adrian Gray (@adrian_gray) February 27, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 16 March 2019 03:10 (six years ago)

these goddamn millennials

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 March 2019 03:23 (six years ago)

I know enough of those goddamn millennials to agree with them.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 16 March 2019 03:35 (six years ago)

what took them so long

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 March 2019 03:56 (six years ago)

defense of the right to exclude takes up 98% of the amygdala xxxxxp

Hunt3r, Saturday, 16 March 2019 03:57 (six years ago)

he called the PM to convey US "sorrow," then turned to “crimes of all kinds coming through our southern border.” He added, "People hate the word invasion, but that’s what it is.”

This man cannot leave office soon enough. He's a walking plague virus.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 16 March 2019 04:02 (six years ago)

drossier

Christopher Steele used information from 2009 posts to CNN’s “iReports” site to help him prepare his dossier, believing they were written by CNN journalists. In fact they were posted by unknown users. This reportedly from depositions in the XBT/Webzilla suit. https://t.co/u0fIvQH69R

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) March 16, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 March 2019 13:59 (six years ago)

good morning!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 March 2019 14:09 (six years ago)

are these cites material and detrimental to the supportability of the overall or specific assertions, or is taibbi offering these to publicly undermine steele’s reliability and method? Either way it’s not a bad find, but based on the totality of info i’m inclined to say hard nope.

Hunt3r, Sunday, 17 March 2019 14:10 (six years ago)

Direction and view of economy by young voters and older voters. For first time, we see younger voters less optimistic about direction of US. pic.twitter.com/D91ay4ov9o

uhh did anyone actually look at this graph? it's pretty clearly not the first time this has happened... also both older & younger voters seem to be more optimistic than at any point in the past 10 years? I don't get this tweet at all???

https://i.imgur.com/SxiNF14.png

⅋ (crüt), Sunday, 17 March 2019 14:34 (six years ago)

oh doi. there were two graphs. that's the other one.

⅋ (crüt), Sunday, 17 March 2019 14:35 (six years ago)

nothingtoseehere.gif

⅋ (crüt), Sunday, 17 March 2019 14:36 (six years ago)

I could see projections and attitudes going either way, like: of course we're optimistic for the future because how could it be worse than the present, but also: if you think we've hit bottom you may be in for an unpleasant surprise my friend.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Sunday, 17 March 2019 14:53 (six years ago)

Morbs quoting Taibbi quoting Tracey is like the end of days. Or sunday. It's more like every fucking sunday.

Frederik B, Sunday, 17 March 2019 14:54 (six years ago)

still waiting for the Sunday where you have an industrial accident

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 March 2019 14:56 (six years ago)

Jesus

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 17 March 2019 15:01 (six years ago)

now now, im sure he just means that frederirk's nine inch nails cover band loads the wrong synth patches and ends up playing "head like a hole" with pitched dog woof sound effects

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Sunday, 17 March 2019 15:04 (six years ago)

Morbs provides evidence for changing fp back to sb on at least a monthly basis.

Also, my sunday 'industry' is church singing, so m bison pretty close to otm.

Frederik B, Sunday, 17 March 2019 15:05 (six years ago)

^^ dog woof NIN would sound pretty rad imo

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 17 March 2019 15:06 (six years ago)

THERE'S NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SB AND FP.

WmC, Sunday, 17 March 2019 15:20 (six years ago)

Lol was waiting for that

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 17 March 2019 15:25 (six years ago)

Also in the final battle Carol is clearly holding a Pred ship

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 17 March 2019 15:27 (six years ago)

i think Flag Post has run its course & it should be repackaged "Destroy Poster"

⅋ (crüt), Sunday, 17 March 2019 15:31 (six years ago)

Xpost wrong thread

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 17 March 2019 15:34 (six years ago)

good rule about being offended by posts:

grow a pair

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 March 2019 15:59 (six years ago)

I agree with the sentiment in general (see my interactions with Treeship), but you're still a rancid piece of shit so I FP'd you for the post in question.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 17 March 2019 16:00 (six years ago)

appreciated, fuckface

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 March 2019 16:04 (six years ago)

Xpost I am trading him off my Madden team when I get home

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 17 March 2019 16:04 (six years ago)

good rule about being offended by posts:

grow a pair

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, March 17, 2019 10:59 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

*uses second pair of hands to type this message while hitting FP with a 3rd hand*
*and that 4th hand, reader? fliping you off (the bird)!!!*

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Sunday, 17 March 2019 16:26 (six years ago)

I agree with the sentiment in general (see my interactions with Treeship), but you're still a rancid piece of shit so I FP'd you for the post in question.


You really need to stay on ILM

brimstead, Sunday, 17 March 2019 17:49 (six years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/mar/15/preet-bharara-interview-doing-justice

Stevolende, Sunday, 17 March 2019 20:29 (six years ago)

THERE'S NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SB AND FP.

― WmC, Sunday, March 17, 2019 10:20 AM (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This just in... pic.twitter.com/GozxRsNH

— Pete Buttigieg (@PeteButtigieg) September 12, 2012

jaymc, Monday, 18 March 2019 03:52 (six years ago)

a poignant message to one-issue ilxor voters everywhere

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 18 March 2019 04:22 (six years ago)

the question is, would he support 31

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Monday, 18 March 2019 04:25 (six years ago)

Hmmm. Wonder what Mayor Linda Hudson's position is on this.

pplains, Monday, 18 March 2019 15:32 (six years ago)

good morning!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 March 2019 15:34 (six years ago)

holy fuck you have no idea how long and how many searches it took to get from suggest ban to somebody to snap back to spina bifida to 'oh fuck, duh, 'south bend''.

Hunt3r, Monday, 18 March 2019 15:59 (six years ago)

taibbi offering these to publicly undermine steele’s reliability and method?

someone sound the KREMLIN AGENT siren

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 18 March 2019 17:38 (six years ago)

I hear Taibbi LIVED in Russia once

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 18 March 2019 17:42 (six years ago)

This just in... pic.twitter.com/GozxRsNH

— Pete Buttigieg (@PeteButtigieg) September 12, 2012

― jaymc, Sunday, March 17, 2019 9:52 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thank you for loving esby

shoulda zagged (esby), Monday, 18 March 2019 17:47 (six years ago)

what's his position on hen fap?

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 18 March 2019 17:49 (six years ago)

50 Tweets over the weekend!

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-fox-news-tweets-809375/

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 March 2019 18:32 (six years ago)

What else is he gonna do, govern?

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 March 2019 18:46 (six years ago)

so much happened on the tv!

rob, Monday, 18 March 2019 19:12 (six years ago)

And he railed against an ...Snl Christmas rerun?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 March 2019 19:35 (six years ago)

Just imagine all the clouds he shouted at without tweeting about it.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 March 2019 19:37 (six years ago)

someone sound the KREMLIN AGENT siren

if u aiming at me, that's not it boss, but i kinda wanna know what's the what in that clapzilla suit, or whatever claimant is called. the reason facts are sought in a depo might be to establish that content of the dossier was either false or maybe there was a lack of care, or some other relevant fact. life is too short for me to figure out exactly what this SCARY PIECE OF INFO was getting to by researching it esp if ilx know. and it's fine if the reason deponent was asked for is different from taibbi's reason for re-barfing it. but shit is done for reasons it's reasonable to wanna know why.

Hunt3r, Monday, 18 March 2019 19:48 (six years ago)

The short version is that Webzilla sued Buzzfeed for defamation for publishing the Steele dossier - which they claimed was both incorrect and recklessly compiled. Alexei Gubarev, who runs Webzilla, was accused of directly participating in the DNC hack. iirc Buzzfeed retracted and issued an apology but he sued anyway - partly with an aim of finding out how he ended up in the dossier in the first place. Steele’s deposition, and the iReports thing, related to that.

ShariVari, Monday, 18 March 2019 20:00 (six years ago)

This is what Pelosi and Schumer are asking for in the investigation into Cindy Yang pic.twitter.com/itc0ZNuNIV

— Sam Stein (@samstein) March 18, 2019

my future think tank (stevie), Monday, 18 March 2019 20:14 (six years ago)

xp That the dossier is raw intelligence has been reported 5,000 times. So, sorry to go red scare on you Milo, but why is Taibbi retweeting the worst of Twitter (M. Tracey), shouting about this?

by the light of the burning Citroën, Monday, 18 March 2019 20:26 (six years ago)

thanks for summary SV and patience with my laziness all

Hunt3r, Monday, 18 March 2019 20:45 (six years ago)

"raw intelligence" posted by "unknown users" ... so, literally reading the comments?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 March 2019 20:57 (six years ago)

No.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Monday, 18 March 2019 20:58 (six years ago)

why is Taibbi retweeting the worst of Twitter (M. Tracey?)

This is really not that surprising

Frederik B, Monday, 18 March 2019 21:48 (six years ago)

retweeting the worst of Twitter (M. Tracey)

Yes, definitely much worse than the millions of openly fascist Twitter accounts.

Russia has curdled so many brains.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 18 March 2019 22:07 (six years ago)

hyperbole, dude. I get that there are worse people out there, but he is terrible, and his post is bosh.

you might want to lay off the Russia card just a bit yourself?

by the light of the burning Citroën, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 00:08 (six years ago)

i both hate when people are into russiagate fanfic and also really hate it when people bring up "russiagate fanfic" as a way of shaming people who are legit interested in some of the very serious and very sketchy stuff related to russia's meddling in the election, their relationship to trump and his cronies, etc.

it's like social media makes people so eager to "take sides" that people can't occupy a sensible middle ground.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 01:15 (six years ago)

Russia has curdled so many brains.

i have seen the best shitposts of my generation destroyed in the interest of board comity, bullshit hilarious retweeted, dragging us all through the woke streets at brunch looking for a centrist fix desperate post-hipsters agitating for some enervated post-wwii regurgitation of a cold war memento in the machinery of trump’s blight

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 02:37 (six years ago)

it's like social media makes people so eager to "take sides" that people can't occupy a sensible middle ground.


yes

maura, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 03:16 (six years ago)

seconded

the dossier stuff is widely believed to be BS, is it not?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 03:38 (six years ago)

as far as I know the dossier is a great deal of paint thrown at a wall, some of which has stuck, but maybe just because the trump administration is an especially paint-seeking wall

that metaphor got a bit away with me, but

theorizing your yells (katherine), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 03:47 (six years ago)

And even where the details are not exact, the general thrust of Steele’s reporting seems credible in light of what we now know about extensive contacts between numerous individuals associated with the Trump campaign and Russian government officials.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-dossier-retrospective

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 04:24 (six years ago)

sure, so we can go by what’s actually been reported by legitimate media outlets and verified. this isn’t that hard

k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 04:43 (six years ago)

curious what parts seem the farthest fetched for you? (sorry to pin you for specifics, it is 35 pages long!)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 04:57 (six years ago)

well, the pee tape stuff specifically, and generally that it was largely compiled from russian sources

k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 05:36 (six years ago)

I think Steele gave that a 50/50% probability.

But... if you're interested in what Steele wrote about Michael Flynn, Carter Page, Paul Manafort & Michael Cohen, I think you'd find that between the prison sentencing and guilty pleas that there may be a bit more to the dossier than you realize.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 06:09 (six years ago)

there's a certain line among some of my friends "on the left" (how they'd describe themselves, i guess) that any attention paid to russiagate is wasted motion. they might allow that some of it is true, and even that some of it is worrisome, but i think they feel that it's essentially a distraction from a genuine populist progressive project. which always seems vaguely insulting to me, like they are projecting their own inability to multitask, to think along two tracks at once.

the problem is that the russia stuff, whatever you think of putin's actual impact on the US election, is inextricable from the essentially cronyism and antidemocratic values not just of trump but of the entire GOP at this point. so there's no dividing line between a "genuine populist project" and the deep corruption of those in power, because there's no hope for the former if the latter become genuinely entrenched for a generation.

/high horse

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 06:23 (six years ago)

Pee tape was one paragraph in 35 pages.

Jeb! campaign sponsored HUMINT is little different from state sponsored HUMINT. The raw input is rough and preliminary. Some of the dossier has been substantiated, a lot was probably fed to Steele or his sources by Russian FSB, a mix of truth and dezinformatsiya. IIRC, some of Steele's Russian associates disappeared after the dossier became public, so the FSB was fishing for loose lips too.

Steele was/is held in high regard by US intel, which had access to the dossier months before it was leaked to news outlets and further months before its publication. They found enough to alarm them that they ramped surveillance of the Trump clan's foreign contacts in the summer of 2016, and after the election took steps to compartmentalize their investigation from future interference. At least that's what I've inferred following former NSA analyst John Schindler since then.

with Chew Guard™ technology (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 06:33 (six years ago)

Is there any reason to find John Schindler a more reliable source than any other Twitter pundit? Based on the little I’ve seen from him his primary motivation is making himself seem relevant and in-the-know.

JoeStork, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 06:59 (six years ago)

there's a certain line among some of my friends "on the left" (how they'd describe themselves, i guess) that any attention paid to russiagate is wasted motion. they might allow that some of it is true, and even that some of it is worrisome, but i think they feel that it's essentially a distraction from a genuine populist progressive project

I'm probably more or less one of those people - at least to an extent. Its partly that its difficult to actually keep on top of what is actually the case, partly a feeling that on some level there's some wishful thinking about russiagate, partly that I don't know that realistically its going to result in anything (I don't see how impeachment is possible, criminal charges seem unlikely against a sitting president, and I think he's much more easily removed via the ballot box in 18 months time).

I don't want Mueller not to do his job! But I'm not putting any focus on it, and I'm not sure that Democrats focusing on this instead of policy is either a net good, or a winning strategy. I get the point about multitasking but airtime is limited, messaging space is limited, and I think results are generally won around a single flagship issue that gains momentum, and the others follow in its wake.

Dems should be focussing not just on getting rid of Trump via the front door but what they are going to do when they get in. If Mueller somehow gets him out some other way, fine, thats Mueller's job. Otherwise the danger is that we end up with Biden in office

anvil, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 07:34 (six years ago)

Democrats focusing on this instead of policy

this seems like (mostly) a straw man to me, which is sort of what i was suggesting in my allusion to multitasking. aside from some folks on the internet, is anyone with a truly significant pulpit or power actually doing this -- that is, focusing on russiagate to the exclusion of policy. the best that i can think of is that one congressman from california whose name i am forgetting at the moment.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 08:08 (six years ago)

ted lieu! that's who i was thinking of.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 08:09 (six years ago)

...you might even say that he's focusing on russigate in lieu of spending time writing policy

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 08:09 (six years ago)

don't forget to tip your waiter.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 08:09 (six years ago)

Ted lieu and the pharmacists

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 08:13 (six years ago)

is anyone with a truly significant pulpit or power actually doing this -- that is, focusing on russiagate to the exclusion of policy

i was thinking of CNN more than the politicians themselves! i guess people like Maddow?

anvil, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 09:06 (six years ago)

She does cover a lotof stuff other than Russia, has looked at corruption and lack of response to natural disasters etc.
Russia is something she returns to frequently but not sure to what extent to the actual exclusion of other topics.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 09:41 (six years ago)

I am not dismissive. I am waiting for the legit reports.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 11:15 (six years ago)

good morning!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 11:25 (six years ago)

I know this got reported last year, but it's worth mentioning again. From the NYT story about Trump + Deutsche Bank:

n the late 1990s, Deutsche Bank, which is based in Germany, was trying to make a name for itself on Wall Street. Its investment-banking division went on a hiring binge.

The bank recruited a handful of Goldman Sachs traders to lead a push into commercial real estate. One was Justin Kennedy, the son of Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 11:25 (six years ago)

xps salacious/absurd ≠ farfetched

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 11:29 (six years ago)

Pretty sure the UK’s current Home Secretary, Sajid Javid, was working at Deutsch Bank around that time.

suzy, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 12:24 (six years ago)

is anyone with a truly significant pulpit or power actually doing this -- that is, focusing on russiagate to the exclusion of policy

i was thinking of CNN more than the politicians themselves! i guess people like Maddow?

― anvil, Tuesday, March 19, 2019 5:06 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this stuff obviously gets ratings. i only tune in to Chris Hayes occasionally but it seems like he devotes at least a segment to Russiagate every night even in the absence of real news on the subject and likely his own personal lack of interest (at least judging from his Twitter feed and podcast, wherein Russia rarely comes up).

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:28 (six years ago)

Maybe one of the problems here is people still giving televised news a single iota of their attention. The Russiagate discussion I'm exposed to is basically limited to these threads.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:33 (six years ago)

Hayes has made it clear the Russia stuff is for the sake of his producers, whereas Bush bottom feeders like Nicole Wallace got shows for the purpose of bipartisan outrage over Trump's vulgarity.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:35 (six years ago)

I feel like there's at least eight or twelve forms of covering/focusing on Russia stuff, and some are more valid than others. The Russian government tried to interfere in the elections process, which seems worth investigating, and the entire GOP has elected to deflect and make excuses and change the subject, because their guy may have been the beneficiary (or may have had people on his team who were in on it, or may have had some inkling what was going on, or may even have been in on it himself, whatever). That mass deflection and denial on the part of a major political party and all its elected officials seems legitimately scandalous and has a claim to being daily front-page news until something's resolved. It's just when it gets entangled with a mentality of this being how to "get" Trump or the GOP, by people who want life to be a multi-season procedural about hero lawyers bringing down a conspiracy that goes all the way to the top, that it becomes one of the most tedious possible conversations you could get stuck in at a bar.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:38 (six years ago)

Unfortunately the corporate media shapes and also reflects the widespread conviction held by the public that Donald Trump is a crass outlier, and if only Barack Obama and even George W. Bush were in command so we can forget about paying attention to the news. I know b/c this percentage comprises most of the fiftysomethings I know who watch MSNBC.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:47 (six years ago)

Otherwise the danger is that we end up with Biden in office


Positing this as a worst case scenario is why “the left” can gfi

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:48 (six years ago)

otoh that is the "postponing the inevitable" scenario

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:58 (six years ago)

Y'all acting like you ain't heard the Zager and Evans song. We got a good 7500 years comin

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 14:03 (six years ago)

Positing this as a worst case scenario is why “the left” can gfi

Second-worst.

Simon H., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 14:04 (six years ago)

Worst case scenario:

1. Trump reelected, Dems lose House majority

Best case scenario:

1. Asteroid collides with Earth.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 14:09 (six years ago)

hell yeah

Simon H., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 14:15 (six years ago)

Is Asteroid running? Which party?

Is there any reason to find John Schindler a more reliable source than any other Twitter pundit?

No. He's just angrier than most. (In the same way that Louise Mensch is more batshit than most.)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 14:34 (six years ago)

By then, though, Mr. Trump had become a reality-TV star, and he was swimming in cash from “The Apprentice.” Deutsche Bank officials also were impressed that Mr. Trump did not have much debt, according to people who reviewed his finances. Aside from his history of defaults, he was an attractive borrower.

...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/18/business/trump-deutsche-bank.html

maura, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 14:46 (six years ago)

it's hard to know when NYT reporters paraphrase, use irony, or are credulous.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 14:54 (six years ago)

srsly

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 14:59 (six years ago)

I thought "The Apprentice" paid him like $50K.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 15:04 (six years ago)

he made 3 million an episode for Celebrity Apprentice

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 15:07 (six years ago)

well, that's swimming in it if they gave him ones xp

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 15:08 (six years ago)

The Apprentice also relaunched his brand, with tie-in merch etc.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 15:10 (six years ago)

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/434686-beck-to-hannity-we-are-officially-at-the-end-of-the-country-as-we-know-it-if

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 16:25 (six years ago)

i’m ok with the end of their version of america tbh

maura, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 16:27 (six years ago)

Sounds good

pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 16:28 (six years ago)

the "faith-based reporters" coooould do the right thing and release the transcript themselves, but something tells me they won't

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 16:56 (six years ago)

I wear an inverted crucifix in public a lot now

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 16:59 (six years ago)

Mostly cos of Evangelicals

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 17:00 (six years ago)

http://memegenerator.net/img/instances/53538019/mostly.jpg

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 17:29 (six years ago)

fun fact:

Aliens would prove to be Henn's only major acting role: By the time the film was released, she and her family had moved back to the United States, and she soon decided to pursue a career in education. She now teaches fourth grade in Northern California; occasionally, one of her students will bring in an Aliens DVD for her to sign.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 17:30 (six years ago)

cool

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 17:33 (six years ago)

(off topic but who the fuck is letting a fourth grader watch Aliens? that sounds like nightmare central)

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 17:34 (six years ago)

(jeet heer is doing the bloggins on TPM this week)

Partially, this is just a matter of the political thermostat adjusting itself to a change in temperature. With Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House, ordinary Democrats might feel like that Trump is being held in check and they can concentrate on other matters, notably the presidential primaries.

But the silencing of the Resistance might also be a result of Democratic Party leadership deliberately trying to demobilize the grassroots, lest they push for politically challenging action like impeachment. As Yglesias reports, “One veteran operative who’s deeply involved in party-aligned work on corruption issues tells me he thinks congressional leaders have deliberately demobilized the resistance because they’re so afraid of the impeachment issue.”

This demobilization follows a familiar pattern. Democrats are the party of governance, so once they win elections elected officials focus more on Washington politics than riling up the base. By contrast, Republicans tend to be on a constant war footing at all times, including even when they control all branches of government, as seen in Trump’s non-stop rallies since he won the presidency. One of the biggest mistakes of the Obama presidency was the demobilization of the grassroots movement that won him the presidency in 2008. We might be seeing history repeat itself, unless Democrats can figure out a way of keeping the fires of the Resistance going.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/farewell-to-the-resistance

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 17:47 (six years ago)

xxp: Hayes did a good interview with David Wallace-Wells on his podcast.

I think that's where the outrage about Trump will come for the next century. Because he exited the Paris Accord, not because he was a narcissist criminal bore. Its certainly why I will never patronize anything associated with the Trump brand (incl Scion or American Idea hotels, and the sport of golf).

with Chew Guard™ technology (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 17:54 (six years ago)

trump's currently doing a press conference with all around good guy jair bolsonaro, and of course repeatedly praised him throughout his intro.

looks like he learned a new word today, too

"reciprocity - my favorite word, reciprocity"

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:02 (six years ago)

I am not dismissive. I am waiting for the legit reports.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, March 19, 2019 11:15 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is what greenwald for eample keeps saying, but what constitutes "legit reports" keeps to keep slipping from "some real evidence of impropriety" (which is hyperabundant, and often in public view) to, if it keeps going in the same direction, something like "audiovisual footage of trump slurping putin's ejaculate, notarized by God".

i'm not suggesting you're the same!-- just that this seemingly sensible "waiting for legit reports" mantra can be used in bad faith -- as for instance it's been by republicans day in and day out.

in re. maddow, i guess i rigorously avoid cable news so if they are nonstop russiagate still, i wasn't aware of it. that's on me.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:06 (six years ago)

fox news just announced the addition of all around good guy Paul Ryan to its board of directors

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:08 (six years ago)

Who's gonna be the one to break the news that Trump's new favorite word necessarily entails the totally gross concept of doing things for other people?

Soupy Slacks (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:13 (six years ago)

wow. i'm sure he'll do the right thing and steer them in the direction of a more responsible, ethical journalism centered on encouraging good government and fiscal resp--

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:13 (six years ago)

xpost

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:13 (six years ago)

I'm stumped atm trying to think of a word that's more anathematic to Trump's absence of ethos than 'reciprocity'.

Soupy Slacks (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:14 (six years ago)

honesty?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:18 (six years ago)

such a dirty word?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:18 (six years ago)

I mean like any other similar concept (eg 'generosity' or 'fairness') is something he might expect of someone else while having no intention of returning the favor. 'Reciprocity' is never one-sided, so it seems almost beyond his conception.

Soupy Slacks (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:22 (six years ago)

He's such a piece of shit, you guys.

Soupy Slacks (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:22 (six years ago)

I am waiting for the legit reports

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:28 (six years ago)

All I can offer is a reenactment of Trump becoming self-aware

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3D96AsewYE

Soupy Slacks (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:37 (six years ago)

He could easily mean reciprocity in the Godfather sense. I will do this thing for you, and sometime in the near or distant future I may ask something of you. This time may never come, but when it does, you owe me.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:55 (six years ago)

oh he very definitely means it that way

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:58 (six years ago)

so in that sense reciprocity is the perfect word for him. I will only do something for you after you have done something for me. and even that is no guarantee.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:00 (six years ago)

reciprocity in the chicago sense

theorizing your yells (katherine), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 22:08 (six years ago)

And Chicago in the Obama sense.

LEOPLOD BLOOMPS (Leee), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 22:16 (six years ago)

I still listen to Ex-Factor in 2019 too

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 23:21 (six years ago)

With Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House, ordinary Democrats might feel like that Trump is being held in check and they can concentrate on other matters, notably the presidential primaries.
But the silencing of the Resistance might also be a result of Democratic Party leadership deliberately trying to demobilize the grassroots, lest they push for politically challenging action like impeachment.

I can only speak for myself, but as a representative politically involved grassroots Democrat, it's definitely the first thing for me. And no, not that I want to concentrate on the presidential primaries. I don't. I feel like I have been busting my ass for two years doing everything I can think of, writing letters, writing checks, calling politicians, participating in protests, urging people to run for office, etc., to forstall the worst, and all that work did not go for nothing, Democrats won the governorship of my state and took back the House, so yes, I feel like I can take a breath and think about other things besides politics for a few months. I don't know what it would mean for the Democratic Party leadership to "deliberately try to demobilize" me. We're not in touch.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 23:41 (six years ago)

I ain't gonna be demobilized and the "Democratic Party leadership" has no leverage over how and where I put my time, energy and money.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 00:16 (six years ago)

i'm pretty sure that the "demobilization of the grassroots" that heer/yglesias were writing about wasn't referring to people like you, but rather the people who help to organize and fund the protests you have participated in, and most importantly, the media. obviously it's more complicated than that, and the DNC doesn't have a direct phone line to everyone who is interested in organizing (and many of those interested in organizing would tell them to fuck off, even if they did). but they do have an influence. and the things that you read or hear in the news, and on blogs and podcasts and op-eds, etc etc, that are also partly influenced by Democratic party's leadership. it's the politico-media complex.

it's more straightforward when you look at how all this works with the GOP and their grassroots. no one was asking for a 30-foot racist wall across the border until trump came along. but once he did, it wasn't long until limbaugh, hannity, coulter (his inner circle) took up his flag and ensured that conservative voters would never stfu about it. or, look at #benghazi.

it's a lot messier than that on the democratic side (thank god). but party leadership does have some influence on what the "national conversation" is and how certain issues are framed, and that, in turn, does influence quite a few people in grassroots politics

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 01:19 (six years ago)

so I guess baby really lost his bottle again today

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:20 (six years ago)

alfred the day is waning...

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:21 (six years ago)

20 hours

mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:23 (six years ago)

Our President r/t Larry The Cable Guy.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:37 (six years ago)

man, what a relief that this thread has been mostly dormant today

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:52 (six years ago)

otm

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:55 (six years ago)

Did the speech at the tank factory go wayward?

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:57 (six years ago)

didn't he just shit on mccain? like, who cares, but it's funny to watch ppl get butthurt about it

gbx, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:58 (six years ago)

He has spent the entire day ranting about McCain.

akm, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:58 (six years ago)

can't wait for him to start ranting about other significant dead people.

akm, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:59 (six years ago)

Trump going at McCain and losing his marbles is like The Tell-Tale Heart

omar little, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:05 (six years ago)

Trump otm

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:06 (six years ago)

Ghost McCain getting the job done, I see.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:12 (six years ago)

finally doing something useful

Simon H., Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:12 (six years ago)

I heard that Ghost McCain was threatening to primary Trump, that might explain his agitation.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:31 (six years ago)

Someone should stand outside his bedroom and go "Oooooh, it's me, Ghost McCain, and I am here to primary yoooouuuuuu. And don't think for a second this is Melania calling from her own room, she is fast asleep and dreaming of a better life. This is Ghost McCain, and I am here to scaaaaaare you! Oooooooh!"

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:32 (six years ago)

Someone should stand outside his bedroom and go "Oooooh, it's me, Ghost McCain, and I am here to primary yoooouuuuuu

how would they be heard over Fox News turned up all the way?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:40 (six years ago)

Florida

In November, a supermajority of Florida voters approved a constitutional amendment restoring voting rights to former felons who’ve completed their sentences. On Tuesday, Florida Republicans advanced a bill that will strip hundreds of thousands of these individuals of the franchise once again.

That measure, which GOP lawmakers voted out of committee along party lines, is a direct assault on Amendment 4, which altered the state constitution to reinstate felons’ right to vote. It is an astonishing rejection of Floridians’ overwhelming support for the amendment and a flagrant power-grab designed to suppress potential Democratic votes. And because the Florida Legislature, governorship, and Supreme Court are dominated by Republicans, the bill stands an excellent chance of becoming law, reversing the biggest voting rights victory of the 21st century so far.

Shortly after the 2018 election, it became clear that Republican lawmakers would attempt to undermine Amendment 4. By its own terms, the law is self-executing; it requires no implementation by the Legislature. Floridians who have completed a sentence for a felony conviction should now be permitted to vote, so long as they did not commit homicide or a sex offense. Yet GOP Gov. Ron DeSantis (who opposed the amendment) and his allies in the Legislature quickly asserted that it is not self-executing and requires “implementing language.” That’s not true, but it allowed Republicans to curtail the amendment’s impact under the guise of “implementing” it.

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:47 (six years ago)

holy shit!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:50 (six years ago)

so fucked up

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:50 (six years ago)

Sorry, meant to include this too:

We learned the answer on Tuesday, when the House of Representatives’ Criminal Justice Subcommittee passed a bill designed to sabotage Amendment 4. The amendment unambiguously declares that “voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.” But the new bill adds a new hurdle: Felons may not register to vote until they’ve paid all court costs, fines, and fees associated with their sentences.

To understand why this provision is a poison pill, it’s important to understand the system of “cash-register justice” practiced by Florida and many other states. To finance its criminal justice system, Florida imposes both fines and “user fees” on defendants upon conviction. Individuals may be fined up to $500,000 for their crime, then saddled with a mind-boggling array of administrative fees. Defendants must pay hundreds or thousands of dollars to fund court costs, “crime prevention” programs, and local jails. They must pay a fee to apply for a public defender, to receive medical treatment in prison, to reinstate a suspended driver’s license, and to participate in drug abuse treatment. Those who receive probation must pay “surcharges” to fund their supervision or room-and-board at a halfway house, as well as electronic monitoring and urinalysis.

... Here’s the unspoken but well-documented truth about these fines and fees: Almost no one ever pays them in full. Former felons already struggle to find employment upon completion of their prison terms, and few can afford to tithe a large portion of their salary to the state. According to WLRN, Florida courts levied $1 billion in felony fines between 2013 and 2018; each year, only 19 percent of that money was paid back. The Florida Court Clerks and Comptrollers (FCCC), an association that releases annual summaries of assessments, labeled 83 percent of court fines levied between 2014 and 2018 as having “minimal collections expectations.” That indicates that there is little chance that the money will ever be paid.

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:51 (six years ago)

Hope Gillum is fundraising several hundred million dollars to help pay all the newly franchised/disenfranchised people’s fines, in addition to registering people to vote

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:53 (six years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2I4eGoXgAEfKiV.jpg

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:36 (six years ago)

is that photoshopped? did that actually happen? i know it's part of the devin nunes lawsuit

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:38 (six years ago)

GOP stealing votes, and Schmuck continues to prioritize as only he can

I look forward to soon re-introducing my legislation re-naming the Senate Russell Building after American hero, Senator John McCain.

— Chuck Schumer (@SenSchumer) March 20, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:42 (six years ago)

gonna be fun as hell watching Meghan McCain being “forced” by socialist baby-killers into supportIng Trump in 2020

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:43 (six years ago)

Meghan McCain should kiss Ho Chi Minh's ass for giving her a lucrative life.

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) March 20, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:44 (six years ago)

Daily Beast sez LOYAL REPUBLICAN GOES OFF ON TRUMP FOR MCCAIN ATTACKS

.....aaaand the nut graf:

“It’s deplorable what he said,” Isakson said. “It will be deplorable seven months from now if he says it again.”

indeed, what a powerful condemnation

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 21 March 2019 00:50 (six years ago)

That’s a really sick burn xp

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 21 March 2019 01:00 (six years ago)

Remember when Hillary called people deplorable?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 21 March 2019 01:51 (six years ago)

hillary c is president
https://youtu.be/wqbEsS5kFb8

Hunt3r, Thursday, 21 March 2019 02:20 (six years ago)

Kellyanne Conway’s humble New Jersey roots laid the foundation for a long career in a male-dominated world of politics. Now, she’s the one consistent figure in the otherwise revolving door of the Trump White House. #BadassWomenDC | @DanaBashCNN https://t.co/9KH5FyB3z6 pic.twitter.com/G6X271J2N0

— CNN (@CNN) March 20, 2019

#BadassWomenDC
@CNN

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 March 2019 03:21 (six years ago)

#destroyingamerica #loweringthebar

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 21 March 2019 03:56 (six years ago)

has a tweet from a media outlet as big as cnn ever been deleted just because it sucked so bad

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 March 2019 03:57 (six years ago)

Kellyanne Conway's badness is not confined to her ass.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 March 2019 03:58 (six years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkJnAgmyBmA

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 21 March 2019 05:20 (six years ago)

Pretty sweet to be living in an era where there's no media outlet so reputable that they'd surprise me by dropping a puckish 'Is it possible the Nazis were right?' tweet solely for the sake of all those wonderful outrage clicks.

Soupy Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 March 2019 10:25 (six years ago)

AKA throw the MSM into a pit and fill it with concrete, plz.

Soupy Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 March 2019 10:26 (six years ago)

the nation of finland - much-beloved, of course, by ilxors - lines up to dunk on nikki haley after she maligns their healthcare

Health care costs are too high that is true but comparing us to Finland is ridiculous. Ask them how their health care is. You won’t like their answer.

— Nikki Haley (@NikkiHaley) March 20, 2019

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 March 2019 13:46 (six years ago)

lol self owned so hard

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 21 March 2019 14:19 (six years ago)

That reminds me of some Scandinavian election some time back, maybe Norway? There was a politician, possibly on the left, whose platform was basically that entitlement spending was not high enough and that lower income people could simply not make a living without huge increases. And then all these people getting government money were basically, no, we're good, actually. And he looked at the numbers and basically conceded, huh, yeah, I stand corrected, we're good.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 March 2019 14:29 (six years ago)

Make Norway as Adequate as it has Been for Some Time Now

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 March 2019 14:32 (six years ago)

Norway iirc has made huge advances in sweeping the forest floor

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 21 March 2019 14:41 (six years ago)

That reminds me of some Scandinavian election some time back, maybe Norway? There was a politician, possibly on the left, whose platform was basically that entitlement spending was not high enough and that lower income people could simply not make a living without huge increases. And then all these people getting government money were basically, no, we're good, actually. And he looked at the numbers and basically conceded, huh, yeah, I stand corrected, we're good.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, March 21, 2019 2:29 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and who was that politician, ladies and gentleman? it was me.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 21 March 2019 14:43 (six years ago)

You I won’t like their answer.

fixed

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 March 2019 14:45 (six years ago)

Thought Nikki Haley was a PoS back for her vehemently anti-union work for the Lazy B as SC governor. It's been depressing to see her advancement since, including getting a spot on the Lazy B's board.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 21 March 2019 14:47 (six years ago)

she's the sane Republican now, remember

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 March 2019 14:48 (six years ago)

She can hold a conversation! She knows words and appears to just use them on the fly. She is the leader of the next generation

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 March 2019 15:00 (six years ago)

can confirm that the "moderate conservative" (nazi light) staffers of my congressman have boners for nikki haley -- they can only be anti-anti-trump (it's too embarrassing to directly defend him) but will happily stan for haley.

every single republican politician is garbage. the rot is all the way through.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 21 March 2019 15:45 (six years ago)

same with kelly, when he was working in the white house. kelly's more obviously a fascist than haley, though.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 21 March 2019 15:46 (six years ago)

I have a co-worker who worships Haley.

Simon H., Thursday, 21 March 2019 15:55 (six years ago)

on what grounds? wtf has she achieved in her career?

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 March 2019 15:57 (six years ago)

nothing. she's a "conservative" and doesn't have an immediately obvious severe personality disorder. that's it.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 21 March 2019 16:05 (six years ago)

Conservatism isn't an immediately obvious severe personality disorder?

Soupy Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 March 2019 16:07 (six years ago)

one staffer for my rep. likes to post "inspirational" memes involving people like this, like "nikki haley is living her best life!" he tries to stay positive even though he's on Team Fascist (whether or not he realizes this, I don't know). were there Nazis like this?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 21 March 2019 16:07 (six years ago)

like people who felt that hitler was a bit too much so instead just talked about how qualified göring was?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 21 March 2019 16:08 (six years ago)

are-we-the-baddies.gif

Neus Anneus (voodoo chili), Thursday, 21 March 2019 16:26 (six years ago)

will-we-keep-on-fighting-to-the-end.wav

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:07 (six years ago)

Haley probably has a more hawkish foreign policy than Don. She'd give her right arm to see some tomahawks launched at Bander Abbas

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:13 (six years ago)

Bandar

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:13 (six years ago)

Judge rules against Republicans in Wisconsin, negates laws passed at the last minute to limit Dem gov's powers.

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/21/705536383/wisconsin-governors-powers-restored-after-restricted-by-lame-duck

Incl. specifically:

Evers seized on the decision almost immediately, calling on the Wisconsin Department of Justice, led by Democratic Attorney General Josh Kaul, to withdraw the state from a lawsuit that seeks to overturn the Affordable Care Act.

"As the governor has requested, please take whatever steps are necessary to remove Wisconsin from Texas v. United States," wrote Evers' chief legal counsel, Ryan Nilsestuen, in an email to the Department of Justice shortly after the ruling was released.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 March 2019 21:19 (six years ago)

awesome

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 21 March 2019 21:22 (six years ago)

more good news here:

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/8xyj5a/2020-democrats-are-dropping-like-flies-from-pro-israel-aipac-conference

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 21 March 2019 21:29 (six years ago)

Genuine question here, what did Haley mean by "you wont like the answer". What "bad answer" was she aiming for?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 22 March 2019 00:28 (six years ago)

There is no point asking genuine questions about anything that GOP operatives say in 2019. They are not aiming at anything other than riling people who are uninterested in facts. Their words are emotional prompts to a tribe, not representing any actual thoughts, statements, or beliefs.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 22 March 2019 01:08 (six years ago)

everyone was supposed to think that finland has terrible healthcare. of course they do, because everyone's healthcare is terrible compared to ours. the american healthcare system is the best system in the entire world, or at least it was until the socialist obamacare takeover!

that's seriously what conservatives think

xp

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 March 2019 01:09 (six years ago)

People who insist upon 'medical treatment' instead of bravely allowing their gangrenous limbs to fester and drop off are lib cuck betas. #MAGAMAGAMAGA

Soupy Slacks (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 March 2019 02:34 (six years ago)

I never fail to boggle at this graph
https://www.ineteconomics.org/uploads/articles/ftotHealthExp_pC_USD_long-1.png

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 22 March 2019 05:06 (six years ago)

that only goes up to 2014. US life expectancy has gone down since then.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 March 2019 05:12 (six years ago)

Yes but who wants to live 10 years longer if it's under Sharia Law in a socialist hellhole without any guns?

Carmel Sprout (Tom D.), Friday, 22 March 2019 08:14 (six years ago)

so I guess Israel and not Puerto Rico will be the 51st state

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 March 2019 11:10 (six years ago)

good morning!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2019 11:19 (six years ago)

Insane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lZiNeP-6uQ&feature=youtu.be

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 22 March 2019 12:37 (six years ago)

link not showing up, what is it, carne?

my future think tank (stevie), Friday, 22 March 2019 12:54 (six years ago)

sorry messed it up on mobile then had to get off the train and walk to the office

this crazy ass shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lZiNeP-6uQ

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 22 March 2019 13:05 (six years ago)

Is this what the Israel as 51st state comment was about

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 22 March 2019 13:15 (six years ago)

what the FUCK is that shit

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 March 2019 13:17 (six years ago)

I believe that's the seventh seal being opened.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 March 2019 13:25 (six years ago)

these people are a fucking delusional lost cause , they live is a fucking make believe land . we're fucked

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 22 March 2019 13:28 (six years ago)

I need an atheist translator for so many things with this administration.

Yerac, Friday, 22 March 2019 13:30 (six years ago)

check, please

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 22 March 2019 13:42 (six years ago)

Yam recognized Golan Heights as Israeli territory

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 March 2019 13:51 (six years ago)

Ah thank you

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 22 March 2019 13:58 (six years ago)

re carne's link: fuck a duck

my future think tank (stevie), Friday, 22 March 2019 14:05 (six years ago)

Seeing a bunch of Mueller report chatter today. Is it imminent or something?

Simon H., Friday, 22 March 2019 15:06 (six years ago)

been imminent for months, today's as good as any for the great unboxing video

WmC, Friday, 22 March 2019 15:07 (six years ago)

Heard pee tape is dropping today as well.

TICK TICK TICK

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:10 (six years ago)

might as well get it out of the way and we can all come to terms with it having no impact whatsoever on trump

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:11 (six years ago)

No way, man, he's going down for sure now. FOR SURE, NO DOUBT.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:12 (six years ago)

well i for one want him to wither away his remaining years in a state of permanent embarrassment, maybe this will help

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:23 (six years ago)

He will live to a very ripe old age and die peacefully in his sleep, nestled in a big comfy bed with a deeply-satisfied grin stretched across his scrotal visage.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:24 (six years ago)

I see no evidence that he is capable of embarrassment

Simon H., Friday, 22 March 2019 15:25 (six years ago)

He's certainly capable of embarrassment (see: any suggestion that he's less wealthy than he pretends to be), just not wrt the negative impact his existence has on the rest of the world.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:33 (six years ago)

CocaineReligion is a hell of a drug.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:45 (six years ago)

He will live to a very ripe old age

He is both old and very ripe right now

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:46 (six years ago)

An overripe age, then. He has extensive experience with burdening everyone around him but he has yet to reach the joyful plateau of becoming a corpulent invalid who clings bitterly to life until even his caretaker children are elderly and thoroughly broken down.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:54 (six years ago)

Don't worry about this violatation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Surely they'll stop at their Sudetenland.

https://www.darkmoon.me/uploads/blogger-image-1842373925.jpg

with Chew Guard™ technology (Sanpaku), Friday, 22 March 2019 16:05 (six years ago)

I’m sorry Kayleigh, but the Jews can fight antisemitism just fine without your shiksa-splaining.

These white nationalist loving are inciting hate against us while claiming to fight antisemitism by supporting Netanyahu.

It’s absolutely disgusting. https://t.co/FQfAJ8oobG

— Max Berger🔥 (@maxberger) March 22, 2019

Watching “Stuart” and “Kayleigh” discuss antisemitism is such a clear example of how the right uses Jews as a wedge.

They actively do not give a shit about our wellbeing or opinions. They use us as a tool to divide the left and enrich themselves.

We will outlive them.

— Max Berger🔥 (@maxberger) March 22, 2019

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 March 2019 16:13 (six years ago)

fascinating.... NYT:

President Trump undercut his own Treasury Department on Friday by announcing that he was rolling back North Korea sanctions that it imposed just a day ago.

The move, announced on Twitter, was a remarkable display of dissension within the Trump administration and represented a striking case of a White House intervening to reverse a major national security decision made only hours earlier by the president’s own officials.

“It was announced today by the U.S. Treasury that additional large scale Sanctions would be added to those already existing Sanctions on North Korea,” Mr. Trump said on Twitter. “I have today ordered the withdrawal of those additional Sanctions!”

Mr. Trump appeared to confuse the day that the sanctions were announced, saying the move occurred on Friday rather than on Thursday.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 March 2019 19:22 (six years ago)

cue "Yakety Sax"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 March 2019 19:22 (six years ago)

only explanation here is Putin gave the pee tape to Xi who then passed it along to Kim. not 100% sure whether MBS has a copy.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 22 March 2019 19:24 (six years ago)

Mr. Trump appeared to confuse the day that the sanctions were announced, saying the move occurred on Friday rather than on Thursday.

Chances that he first learned about the sanctions this morning while watching tv? 80...90%?

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 March 2019 19:40 (six years ago)

Pretty sure Fox News is the only way he learns about anything that he doesn't directly experience and participate in. And there will probably come a time when he'll simply sit there puzzled and unsure how to proceed until he sees Hannity very slowly demonstrate the process by which one consumes a taco bowl.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 March 2019 20:05 (six years ago)

the halls of Congress—and especially the House—have been crawling with elected officials who don't just cater to people whose only sources of information are Fox News and talk radio. They are those people.
"One of the side-effects of this kind of Fox News lunacy is that other actual members of Congress believe it, and see it uncritically," says Ocasio-Cortez. "So I was on the floor [of the House] once and this guy came up to me, and he was like, 'Is it true that you got $10 million from Netflix?' And I was like, 'No?' And it was like, in the well—we're voting on, like, gun reform. And I'm like, what else do you not know? This is concerning."

not just him

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 22 March 2019 20:08 (six years ago)

Would love to see all elected officials have to take a televised citizenship test as a prerequisite to hold office.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 22 March 2019 20:51 (six years ago)

***Barr has the Mueller Report***

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:02 (six years ago)

ugh not ready for this

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:03 (six years ago)

it's on

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:10 (six years ago)

ugh, i feel sick. I need to go exercise and then drink a bottle of wine.

Yerac, Friday, 22 March 2019 21:12 (six years ago)

Hey guys

Trϵϵship, Friday, 22 March 2019 21:14 (six years ago)

going straight for the wine

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:14 (six years ago)

Mueller Report out. Probably too crowded first weekend. I’ll get a bootleg at the swap meet next week.

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:15 (six years ago)

Who has a good scribd link?

Trϵϵship, Friday, 22 March 2019 21:15 (six years ago)

i wonder how long this thing is actually going to be? is this gonna be like the warren report w/ the 27 extra volumes of evidence?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:17 (six years ago)

Mueller Report out. Probably too crowded first weekend. I’ll get a bootleg at the swap meet next week.

― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, March 22, 2019 9:15 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there are usually scalpers outside the venue, if you're willing to pay a bit more.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:17 (six years ago)

Mueller has wrapped up. Don, Jr. has not been indicted. Time to shift our hopes and dreams to the House Oversight Committee's investigations.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:17 (six years ago)

and don't forget to bring some extra cash for the swag.

xpost

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:18 (six years ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/us/politics/mueller-report-release.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:19 (six years ago)

The House voted unanimously in March on a nonbinding resolution to make public the report’s findings, an indication of the deep support within both parties to air whatever evidence prosecutors uncovered.

yeah... that's not my read on that. "non-binding" is a key phrase.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:19 (six years ago)

Barr statement: anticipates making principal conclusions public as soon as this weekend

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:20 (six years ago)

i mean that supposition ("deep support within both parties") goes against literally everything the GOP has done for the past 2 years.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:20 (six years ago)

the usual NYT credulity

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:20 (six years ago)

has to be extremely calculated, willful credulity at this point

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:20 (six years ago)

basically Barr's going home, mixing a cocktail, and settling by the fire with a copy of the report.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:21 (six years ago)

and feeding certain pages into it

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:22 (six years ago)

aimless, where i come from that's called "jinxing" and it's illegal xp

Trϵϵship, Friday, 22 March 2019 21:22 (six years ago)

Barr is going to make a statement like "while there are circumstances and incidents that are troubling... fuck all you bitches who said I look like John Goodman on the toilet."

Yerac, Friday, 22 March 2019 21:23 (six years ago)

Report delivered earlier this afternoon per Justice official, delivered to DAG’s office and then within minutes to AG Barr; report described to me as “comprehensive”

— Laura Jarrett (@LauraAJarrett) March 22, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:26 (six years ago)

Wow, comprehensive!!!

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:28 (six years ago)

good luck usa

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:30 (six years ago)

how did you pay for those extra exclamation points???

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:30 (six years ago)

it's, freakign mueller time

global tetrahedron, Friday, 22 March 2019 21:33 (six years ago)

https://www.madsenworld.dk/anigif/light/siren.gif

rip van wanko, Friday, 22 March 2019 21:35 (six years ago)

can’t wait for mueller to lock up hillary for doing pizzagate

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:38 (six years ago)

Well, I'm gonna mix a cocktail and re-watch High and Low. Y'all notify me when Barr's ready.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:41 (six years ago)

part of our heritage requires a 3 yr shambolic brexit style shitshow amirite

Hunt3r, Friday, 22 March 2019 21:47 (six years ago)

Breaking: Mueller is not recommending any further indictments, says a Sr. Justice Department official.

— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) March 22, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:50 (six years ago)

Mueller is not recommending any further indictments

That's pretty obvious even without someone telling it to Del Quentin Wilber.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:53 (six years ago)

Further indictments not under seal?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:54 (six years ago)

Barr statement: anticipates making principal conclusions public as soon as this weekend

― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, March 22, 2019 4:20 PM

Barr: “I am reviewing that report and anticipate that I may be in a position to advise you of the Special Counsel’s principal conclusions as soon as this weekend.”

The "you" is Congressional leaders, not the public. I assume those congresspeople will drop some bombs and spin some spin, but Barr didn't say he was making anything public.

Fox News Has Normalized a Lie About the Origins of ILX (WmC), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:55 (six years ago)

xxp ok write it up for lawfare

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:55 (six years ago)

holy shit it’s leaked already

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 March 2019 22:05 (six years ago)

ah yes ok xxp

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 22 March 2019 22:06 (six years ago)

Oh my god, this is earthshattering stuff. I had a suspicion about how the mold got broken, but to see it spelled out in black and white...wow.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 March 2019 22:15 (six years ago)

wow, it starts coming and doesn't stop

Simon H., Friday, 22 March 2019 22:16 (six years ago)

Oooh. LXVIII, damning stuff.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 March 2019 22:17 (six years ago)

smash mouth was right xp

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 March 2019 22:18 (six years ago)

well, i definitely wrote that before clicking the link

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 March 2019 22:18 (six years ago)

At least it gets O'Rourke out of the news.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) March 22, 2019

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2019 22:25 (six years ago)

holy shit that report

rip trump family

Van Horn Street, Friday, 22 March 2019 22:29 (six years ago)

Can’t believe they didn’t censor exhibit D

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 March 2019 22:32 (six years ago)

Ilxors have connections though, you guys write for rolling stone and stuff. Plz discretely ilxmail me the report thank you

Trϵϵship, Friday, 22 March 2019 22:41 (six years ago)

In other news which now seems entirely inconsequential, Lachlan Murdoch officially succeeded his pop as the head of Fox News this week. It remains to be seen whether that means a goddamn thing, but I'll take whatever slim chance there is that he sees the power he now wields and decides that he'd prefer to go down in history as maybe just a medium-grade POS rather than the hardcore + unalloyed variety favored by so many of late.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 March 2019 22:43 (six years ago)

gonna rank the ten most delicious findings in the Mueller report brb

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2019 22:43 (six years ago)

Poppy Trump Interzone

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 March 2019 22:48 (six years ago)

If I wanted to write a review of the mueller report for pitchfork, who should I pitch that to?

Trϵϵship, Friday, 22 March 2019 22:50 (six years ago)

Pitchfork?

Van Horn Street, Friday, 22 March 2019 22:51 (six years ago)

I'll take whatever slim chance there is that he sees the power he now wields and decides that he'd prefer to go down in history as maybe just a medium-grade POS rather than the hardcore + unalloyed variety favored by so many of late

No one actually cares where they'll "go down in history."

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 22 March 2019 22:54 (six years ago)

i have not clicked the link so i have no idea if any of you are taking the piss

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Friday, 22 March 2019 22:54 (six years ago)

Yeah, they are rick rolling. sigh.

Yerac, Friday, 22 March 2019 22:56 (six years ago)

Time to shift our hopes and dreams to the House Oversight Committee's investigations Bernie-Oprah.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 March 2019 22:59 (six years ago)

To Mueller Forever

nashwan, Friday, 22 March 2019 23:14 (six years ago)

No one actually cares where they'll "go down in history."

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, March 22, 2019 5:54 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not everyone is faced with the decision of whether to tap the brakes on a media outlet that's been actively leading the POTUS by the shorthairs towards his worst impulses or whether to say 'fuck it' and snap off the steering wheel as we hurtle towards the abyss. I can see where someone in that situation might ponder how their choices will be viewed in the future (either by subsequent generations or whichever intergalactic travellers happen upon the desiccated husk of what was once a life-giving world, depending).

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 March 2019 23:40 (six years ago)

man sure enjoying all the civilians who became political analysts overnight (not itt, elsewhere)

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 March 2019 23:41 (six years ago)

Does the office of Special Counsel dissolve on the presentation of the report, think I heard a presenter say that this week.
So does that mean that Mueller is totally through and anything else in the hands of the other law departments he's handed findings over to.

JUst read comment that Ecuador are expelling Assange from the embassy.

JUst keeping fingers crossed that something more comes of this and Barr can't get away with simply suppressing everything

Stevolende, Friday, 22 March 2019 23:42 (six years ago)

it doesn't dissolve, it melts

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 March 2019 23:44 (six years ago)

Heads up: rumor has it Mueller is finishing his report and it will be filed within the next couple of months.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 March 2019 23:46 (six years ago)

Rumor is everyone should start drinking/campaigning/filing for visas or hope that SDNY has something in the bag.

Yerac, Saturday, 23 March 2019 00:02 (six years ago)

to state the obvious...no further fucking indictments? i understand why trump wouldn't be one of them - pointless because of the dumbass policy about not being able to indict a sitting president - but how the fuck did don jr get out of this? he even expected to be indicted, right?

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 March 2019 00:10 (six years ago)

i suppose it could always be something akin to option 4 on this marcy wheeler post?

4. No further indictment, but a report showing a great deal of evidence a conspiracy took place, with The Report explaining why (including Presidential prerogative on foreign policy) it can’t be indicted, with or without an accompanying HJC Road Map.

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 March 2019 00:12 (six years ago)

Nothing concrete means months and months of more bullshit. it will never end.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 March 2019 00:23 (six years ago)

If the report is made public and it is damning, isn't it a massive boost for dems entering the elections? + Trump can be indicted as soon as he is out of office?

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 23 March 2019 00:28 (six years ago)

Rumor is I'm going to stay drunk through November 2020.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Saturday, 23 March 2019 00:35 (six years ago)

Not everyone is faced with the decision of whether to tap the brakes on a media outlet that's been actively leading the POTUS by the shorthairs towards his worst impulses or whether to say 'fuck it' and snap off the steering wheel as we hurtle towards the abyss. I can see where someone in that situation might ponder how their choices will be viewed in the future (either by subsequent generations or whichever intergalactic travellers happen upon the desiccated husk of what was once a life-giving world, depending).

The people with that kind of power are precisely those who care least. They're filthy rich, their descendants are filthy rich, they don't give a fuck. The feelings of the eggheads and the poors mean absolutely nothing to them.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 23 March 2019 00:35 (six years ago)

this is gonna be the phantom menace of politics isn't it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 23 March 2019 00:58 (six years ago)

meesa think so

pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 23 March 2019 01:31 (six years ago)

https://media.giphy.com/media/6NhHFB86oCaUU/giphy-downsized-large.gif

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 March 2019 01:37 (six years ago)

Thread title otm.

Fetchboy, Saturday, 23 March 2019 01:41 (six years ago)

Not everyone is faced with the decision of whether to tap the brakes on a media outlet

If only James had been appointed instead, by next Wednesday we could have Trump tweeting angrily about Soundbombing II only getting 3 mics in The Source - "very unfair!", and signing executive orders to reopen vinyl plants to get Pharoahe Monch's solo debut back into print

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 23 March 2019 03:16 (six years ago)

Phantom Menace is stretching it, maybe the Holiday Special.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 23 March 2019 03:38 (six years ago)

maybe a fan edit

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 March 2019 04:03 (six years ago)

Word is that Lachlan is even more of a one-eyed conservative mf than his dad, I don't think he has any warm/fuzzy ideas re social responsibility and media.

umsworth (emsworth), Saturday, 23 March 2019 06:01 (six years ago)

again, i think we should retire the word "conservative" at least in re. folks like this. fox news went straight-up fascist a while ago. it's like calling lenin a "progressive."

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 07:29 (six years ago)

my congressman doesn't hold town halls or other truly public meetings. he has a tight circuit of nursing homes, contracting businesses, and christian schools that he visits for photo ops. all white folks, mostly men, mostly old. here's his latest event:

https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/54729295_10156368262132815_6155866592589643776_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-2.fna&oh=4f547f5f0cc557cee53f3c1736d48d6d&oe=5D05E302

america!

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 07:39 (six years ago)

loool

del griffith, Saturday, 23 March 2019 07:45 (six years ago)

you have to admit it's a novel rendition of the last supper.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 07:51 (six years ago)

props to the tearaway with the Mike Tyson eye tattoo though

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 23 March 2019 08:01 (six years ago)

that first one might be the most WHITE MAN AMERICA picture i've ever seen

- the red-tinted hard plastic coke cups
- the fluted plastic pitcher of icewater (even though judging by what they're wearing it's cold outside)
- the low-ass ceiling
- the off-center "fancy" ceiling fan
- the haphazard jumble-sale americana
- the importance of having a tv within sight
- the tidy stacks of individual plastic containers of smucker's
- the faux old-timey "pioneer" stonework columns
- the general air of hopeless small-town malaise

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 23 March 2019 09:23 (six years ago)

Cigar store Indian...

Is lacking a flag though.

koogs, Saturday, 23 March 2019 11:30 (six years ago)

good morning!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 March 2019 11:37 (six years ago)

Barr letter sounds more positive about keeping both Mueller and Rosenstein in the loop than I feared.
Still not sure what no further indictments means. Nothing fresh, but a few outstanding?
Surely bringing extreme pain to several of the Trump family and GOP higher echelons is mandatory?

Stevolende, Saturday, 23 March 2019 12:47 (six years ago)

so he's recommended no more indictments

perhaps he's recommended people to be dropped from a 12 story building though

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:23 (six years ago)

Or, as some hypothesize, perhaps he knows SDNY and any of the other investigations have the same information and are on it. One of many bigger questions I and others have is, for example, if he's done and the report is finished, then why is Mueller still requesting that Andrew Miller testify? For the purpose of what?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:25 (six years ago)

I mean the idiot GOP's rush to say that the 'no additional indictments' clears Trump clearly means they are concerned about what's going to be in the report.

the rest of Trump's family not being indicted, ok, that's a surprise. but Mueller was not going to suggest Trump be indicted because he doesn't believe in the indictment of sitting Presidents.

doesn't mean the report won't say there wasn't obstruction, though.

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:26 (six years ago)

more likely, I bet there is going to be stuff in the report that is extremely embarrassing to the President, and might actually establish that he obstructed justice, and what's going to happen is the obvious difference in interpretation between Dems and Pubes as to the seriousness of his 'crimes' and whether impeachment should occur.

the real hope should be that the report has enough damning information to hurt Trump in the polls so we can kick the fuck out of him in 2020.

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:30 (six years ago)

It's quite likely the report will show Trump did nothing overtly illegal but was so incompetent and taken advantage of at every turn by the grifters and criminals he hired.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:32 (six years ago)

the Russia stuff will probably show that. I'm interested in Mueller's conclusions on the Comey firing.

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:33 (six years ago)

you have to be flailing when your argument is "if the result is NO COLLUSION, then the investigation should never have occurred in the first place".

cos I'm sure they also feel that way about civilians who have lost years of their lives and tons of their savings defending themselves in court from egregious charges.

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:36 (six years ago)

We will find that Trump wrote his criminal directives in cheeto dust and tacos bowls, which he then promptly ate. No evidence, no collusion.

Yerac, Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:42 (six years ago)

He keeps his Cheeto dust in a drawer

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:43 (six years ago)

you have to be flailing when your argument is "if the result is NO COLLUSION, then the investigation should never have occurred in the first place".


Thing is, by tweeting “NO COLLUSION!” almost every day for the last 2 years, trump really did succeed in redefining the argument along those terms in the minds of everyone who might vote for him. It doesn’t matter if he’s clearly corrupt and surrounds himself with scum and orders people to do things in the manner of the mafia. If it can’t be proved beyond reasonable doubt that he directly colluded, then he “won”

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 March 2019 14:10 (six years ago)

Would think that several things that have been in public knowledge since they happened coupled with recent highly publicised knowledge would have things way too close to collusion for any other public figure.
The presence of Russian officials in the oval office on the day of Comeys firing. The gifting a penthouse to Putin and all other.public acts of obeisance to him.etc etc.

Would certainly be things any other leader would consciously avoid even if just for appearance sake.

But I guess everybody concerned has found that despicable since it was first aired.
I don't get it or what the GOP see in an inept idiot like him.

Stevolende, Saturday, 23 March 2019 14:18 (six years ago)

Xpost those people were going to vote for him regardless. Even if he went to a National Park and tried to fuck a tree

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 March 2019 14:29 (six years ago)

ESPECIALLY if, who among us hasn't etc.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Saturday, 23 March 2019 14:53 (six years ago)

fucking a tree would honestly be the high point of Trump's presidency

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 23 March 2019 15:03 (six years ago)

Perhaps the lack of indictments at federal level is the only sane response to the problem of 45 pardoning individuals as they happen? NY courts can do their worst, though.

suzy, Saturday, 23 March 2019 15:10 (six years ago)

or maybe a lifelong republican lawman who helped make the case for the Iraq war and never flinched at expanding surveillance of us citizens was never gonna sink a republican president anyway

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 March 2019 15:17 (six years ago)

^^^^

This. Plus Manafort and others blocked access and covered up

curmudgeon, Saturday, 23 March 2019 15:30 (six years ago)

Yea I'm officially done with speculation for the weekend.

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 March 2019 15:33 (six years ago)

" Trump can be indicted as soon as he is out of office?"

I can't see this happening, just as it didn't happen to Cheney or Rumsfeld or Bush.

akm, Saturday, 23 March 2019 15:47 (six years ago)

of all the takes i see, the "he didn't indict because he's gop" is one of the less convincing.

rather thought that figuring out one russia-related conspiracy-- at least to alter the gop platform, e.g.-- would be do-able, but i have not followed manafort issue closely enough.

mills of justice: slow. mills of injustice: also pretty slow, if there's rules and shit.

if we just got rid of the law, maybe god would move faster.

Hunt3r, Saturday, 23 March 2019 15:51 (six years ago)

he didn’t indict because there was no collusion obv

⅋ (crüt), Saturday, 23 March 2019 16:06 (six years ago)

I really wonder what those fools who in all seriousness thought Mueller would direct a "SWAT" team up the Truman Balcony are doing now.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) March 22, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 March 2019 16:52 (six years ago)

there's definitely a little fanfic in this thread. mueller would not have withheld indictments simply because he figured NY would do it instead. if his team thought there was reason to indict, he would have indicted. so what we got, we got.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 17:18 (six years ago)

Still it is a bit dumb to already be reacting like we know the contents of the report. We just know no more indictments.

DJT himself was never going to be indicted, his kids should have been, but this report could still take a steaming shit on him a or suggest that he obstructed justice without recommending indictment because he's a sitting President (I think it's a long shot but hey, we all said with certainty that Mueller would be fired 73 times)

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 March 2019 17:53 (six years ago)

I read somewhere that DOJ policy forbids him from focusing in the report on people he isn’t going to indict.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:26 (six years ago)

Even if there was a ton of evidence that fell juuuuust short of enough to indict, because he isn’t being charged with a crime, it gets thrown out as irrelevant in the final report.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:27 (six years ago)

Mueller's job wasn't to indict, it was to investigate. All the indictments he pursued were to obtain cooperation with the investigation. Presumably, he and his office decided that he had sufficient evidence without an indictment (on his part) of Kushner, Trump et al.

To my knowledge, his remit didn't extend far enough from Russiagate to investigate the nefarious shit Kushner has been doing with the UAE and Sauds. That MF may be the worst of the lot.

with Chew Guard™ technology (Sanpaku), Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:28 (six years ago)

So the report will include everything he found?

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:30 (six years ago)

Even if he didn’t decide it was criminal?

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:30 (six years ago)

I feel extremely depressed.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:39 (six years ago)

I'm with Sanpaku. As I read it (with lots of added conjecture) Mueller played it the exact opposite of Starr, by sticking strictly to investigating Russian interference. Where he uncovered evidence of crimes outside his investigative sphere he either used them to obtain cooperation or he passed off the evidence to other prosecutors for further investigation or indictments. It is also very possible that one or more sealed indictments exist.

The near-instantaneous 'leak' that "no further indictments were recommended" was carefully worded, as most such manipulative leaks are, to suggest much more than it says. It seems wise to presume that the conclusions it wants you to draw are a misdirection from the truth.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:49 (six years ago)

It is also very possible that one or more sealed indictments exist.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/22/special-counsel-mueller-has-no-sealed-indictments-as-russia-probe-ends-nbc-news.html

Special counsel Robert Mueller has concluded his investigation and will not file any more indictments in connection with his inquiry into Russian interference in the 2016 campaign, NBC News reports, citing a senior U.S. law enforcement official.

There are no sealed indictments.

It is possible that leads uncovered during the special counsel’s inquiry and handed off could lead to charges brought by state prosecutors or other parts of the Department of Justice.

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:51 (six years ago)

Lame

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:58 (six years ago)

Maybe mueller was the best thing to happen to trump

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:59 (six years ago)

cmon son

⅋ (crüt), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:03 (six years ago)

i too am disappointed and plan on drinking a lot tonight, again.

however, i will hold off on the true bender until we find out what's actually in the report. because, c'mon.

although i will hold off on the true bender, i will not hold off on idle speculation to make myself feel better. here goes:

last night i was mad about don jr et al not being indicted when they have clearly participated in conspiratorial activity. but there are other ongoing investigations, in some cases referred by the mueller investigation, that would be able to pursue those convictions in a way that can't be immediately overturned by a pardon.

also, i think it's notable that trump hasn't tweeted in 23 hours, when in previous weekends he's tweeted like FIFTY TIMES A DAY or some shit. that suggests to me that he's not absolutely sure that he and his family are in the clear yet with these investigations, and/or that he's not sure if the report will make him look like complete dogshit while not actually recommending criminal charges.

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:09 (six years ago)

Maybe mueller was the best thing to happen to trump

Mueller's investigation led to busting Cohen and gaining his full cooperation. His trove of evidence may be the wedge that pries opens the books of Trump Organization. Nothing is over, yet. Where it ends is still unknown.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:10 (six years ago)

The point of the Mueller investigation was never about indicting Trump. It is part of a larger intelligence gathering operation re: Russia.

⅋ (crüt), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:12 (six years ago)

Federal and state prosecutors are pursuing about a dozen other investigations that largely grew out of his work, all but ensuring that a legal threat will continue to loom over the Trump presidency. https://t.co/NJv71GOxmA

— Adam Goldman (@adamgoldmanNYT) March 23, 2019

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:13 (six years ago)

Treeship, really?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:16 (six years ago)

I know

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:16 (six years ago)

not sure if the report will make him look like complete dogshit while not actually recommending criminal charges.

Barr would do his damnedest to bury any such parts of Mueller's report, and justify it by citing Justice Department policy against revealing prejudicial evidence that might undermine the reputation of individuals who will not be indicted. That is generally a good and wise policy, but coupled with the Justice Department opinion that a president can never be indicted, it is a recipe for protecting presidents who have committed "high crimes and misdemeanors".

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:17 (six years ago)

Aimless is right:

The near-instantaneous 'leak' that "no further indictments were recommended" was carefully worded, as most such manipulative leaks are, to suggest much more than it says. It seems wise to presume that the conclusions it wants you to draw are a misdirection from the truth.

― A is for (Aimless),

What's most likely is that Mueller has chummed the water for state prosecutors for years to come.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:17 (six years ago)

It seems like he played this well. Made “no collusiom” the sticking point—moved the goalposts to a place where he actually might have been innocent—and now he can plausibly (to anyone half-sympathetic) play up that he was the target of a witch hunt.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:18 (six years ago)

and how would THAT have changed if Mueller had given you the results you wanted?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:19 (six years ago)

If he gets arrested when leaving office at age 9 million in 2024 who cares really

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:19 (six years ago)

He got his time torturing the country every day

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:19 (six years ago)

You are at this point in this turd's presidency inordinately concerned with the consciences of Trump voters who can't be turned and can never be trusted.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:19 (six years ago)

You're becoming emotionally incontinent, treesh.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:20 (six years ago)

from the front page NYT story:

Even as the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, submitted his confidential report to the Justice Department on Friday, federal and state prosecutors are pursuing about a dozen other investigations that largely grew out of his work, all but ensuring that a legal threat will continue to loom over the Trump presidency.

Most of the investigations focus on President Trump or his family business or a cadre of his advisers and associates, according to court records and interviews with people briefed on the investigations. They are being conducted by officials from Los Angeles to Brooklyn, with about half of them being run by the United States attorney’s office in Manhattan.

Unlike Mr. Mueller, whose mandate was largely focused on any links between the Trump campaign and the Russian government’s interference in the 2016 presidential election, the federal prosecutors in Manhattan take an expansive view of their jurisdiction. That authority has enabled them, along with F.B.I. agents, to scrutinize a broader orbit around the president, including his family business.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:22 (six years ago)

I just don’t want another four years of this. In addition to pursuing frightening, destructive, and racist policy, he is sowing paranoia and division among his followers, fueling recism and extremism, and making a mockery out of our entire system of government. The last point might not sound as serious but it adds a sense of comic hopelessness to the whole nightmare.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:22 (six years ago)

so vote him out

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:23 (six years ago)

yeah come on treeship, make your vote worth a bunch of electoral votes and then vote him out

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:24 (six years ago)

then call your representative in NYC and make sure that they don't like trump. being NYC, i'm sure they're all about trump. you have to change their mind so he'll lose the election

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:24 (six years ago)

your emotional reaction to president biff from back to the future II is invalid

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:25 (six years ago)

yeah come on treeship, make your vote worth a bunch of electoral votes and then vote him out

― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, March 23, 2019 7:24 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

move you and your clan to wyoming, maybe? or idaho?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:28 (six years ago)

Lol my clan

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:28 (six years ago)

also, i think it's notable that trump hasn't tweeted in 23 hours, when in previous weekends he's tweeted like FIFTY TIMES A DAY or some shit. that suggests to me that he's not absolutely sure that he and his family are in the clear yet with these investigations, and/or that he's not sure if the report will make him look like complete dogshit while not actually recommending criminal charges.

Does Trump have a history of responding to perceived threats with silence? That doesn't sound like him. It seems like silence could just as well mean he actually feels exonerated (for the moment).

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:28 (six years ago)

Who cares? He’s a monster

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:29 (six years ago)

if you want to barf all over the place, i recommend this piece: https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/23/politics/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-robert-mueller/index.html

xp

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:29 (six years ago)

Yeah i read that. He was basking in the sunlight on the patio or something

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:31 (six years ago)

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation (all times local):

1:30 p.m.

Attorney General William Barr will not be providing Congress with special counsel Robert Mueller’s findings on Saturday.

That’s according to a senior Justice Department official. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the person wasn’t authorized to publicly discuss the review process.

Mueller has concluded his investigation of Russian election interference and possible coordination with Donald Trump’s campaign.

Barr is reviewing Mueller’s confidential report and has said he expects to provide Congress with the “principal conclusions” this weekend.

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:34 (six years ago)

https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/03/23/after-mueller-an-off-ramp-on-russia-for-the-venal-fucks/

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 March 2019 20:06 (six years ago)

This is a good write up

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 20:21 (six years ago)

Another great day on the links! Thank you to POTUS for having me and to EVERYONE at Trump International for being so wonderful. What a great man, so down to earth and so fun to be with!! KEEP AMERICA GREAT!! -Kid Rock pic.twitter.com/cSsswI5PbW

— Kid Rock (@KidRock) March 23, 2019

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 23 March 2019 22:48 (six years ago)

that trump waxwork is extremely unconvincing

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 March 2019 23:10 (six years ago)

fuck kid rock forever

maura, Saturday, 23 March 2019 23:11 (six years ago)

As if I ever needed anything to buttress that age-old sentiment.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Saturday, 23 March 2019 23:43 (six years ago)

brb burning down Kid Rock’s honky tonk

⅋ (crüt), Sunday, 24 March 2019 00:54 (six years ago)

i'm sad to say that degree of brazen lying about this is surprising me. this is what the barr summary of the mueller report says:

https://i.imgur.com/z9Sw6Pq.jpg

No Collusion, No Obstruction, Complete and Total EXONERATION. KEEP AMERICA GREAT!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 24, 2019

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 24 March 2019 20:51 (six years ago)

lol, the formatting of that makes it look like trump tweeted that highlighted caption, but that's just a screenshot i took posted just above the trump tweet

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 24 March 2019 20:52 (six years ago)

it would be really great if trump did accidentally tweet that highlighted excerpt

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 24 March 2019 20:52 (six years ago)

poor sheriff joe

WATCH: Exclusive video of @RealSheriffJoe getting called "a fucking fascist" at last night's @STLCountyGOP meeting. pic.twitter.com/yjN8fyIi01

— The Jewish Worker (@JewishWorker) March 24, 2019

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 March 2019 00:30 (six years ago)

Will Dems be able to get Barr to release the actual report (and in a timely manner)?

curmudgeon, Monday, 25 March 2019 03:06 (six years ago)

Not likely.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 25 March 2019 03:34 (six years ago)

find out next time, on...

Evan, Monday, 25 March 2019 03:42 (six years ago)

They can call/subpoena Mueller to testify before the house, though, and more likely than not in open session.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 25 March 2019 03:50 (six years ago)


i'm sad to say that degree of brazen lying about this is surprising me

hey, it's worked so far....

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 25 March 2019 04:24 (six years ago)

"be able to get Barr to..."

signs point to _Fuck Off Not What I Was Brung To Do_

Hunt3r, Monday, 25 March 2019 04:24 (six years ago)

This reminds me that I used to have a copy of The Starr Report that ran as a special section in the local paper.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 25 March 2019 04:35 (six years ago)

where's the tax returns?

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 25 March 2019 05:09 (six years ago)

Did Mueller manage to get to see them.
Looks like Weisenberg was being uncooperative for most of the time. Not sure if other access routes were more useful.
& Whitehouse were refusing to cooperate over requested documents last thing I heard.

Stevolende, Monday, 25 March 2019 08:20 (six years ago)

Lots of loose ends.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 March 2019 12:00 (six years ago)

good morning!!!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2019 12:06 (six years ago)

maybe time to dust off that u

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 25 March 2019 12:08 (six years ago)

oh my god @ the dozens of "NOW, everything changes" takes on this, as though the hundreds of crimes exposed in the interim are nothing

frogbs, Monday, 25 March 2019 13:59 (six years ago)

i must have missed the part where those hundreds of crimes had any effect on trump

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 25 March 2019 14:07 (six years ago)

And none of those things are juicy Netlfix Original narratives. Totally boring.

Evan, Monday, 25 March 2019 14:10 (six years ago)

Barr's letter : a vast number of conservatives :: deathbed conversion : St. Peter

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 March 2019 14:15 (six years ago)

'...Arright, ya rascal, we forgive ya (puts Trump in playful headlock and gives him a noogie, spends the next twenty minutes trying to disentangle hand from unruly mass of wispy hair-like follicles).'

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 March 2019 14:17 (six years ago)

The last 48 hours have been excruciating

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 March 2019 14:19 (six years ago)

only 60,000 more to go

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 25 March 2019 14:22 (six years ago)

I can't say I'm thrilled!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2019 14:25 (six years ago)

there's something especially maddening about this - Trump unambiguously obstructed justice on national TV, Junior admitted to attempting to collude w/ Russia through Twitter, and Mueller...can't find evidence of either?

frogbs, Monday, 25 March 2019 14:36 (six years ago)

It's cool to see people immediately jumping to the most facile, bad faith conclusions. Seventy years of ill-spent public life, magically washed clean in a single weekend! Hail our exonerated god emperor!

A day might eventually come when human beings can be trusted with something as complex as civilization, but I doubt it.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 March 2019 14:37 (six years ago)

Why did mueller hand off the obstruction recommendation to the AG?

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 14:37 (six years ago)

I should have been picked as the special counsel

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 14:37 (six years ago)

And why didn’t he subpoena trump?

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 14:38 (six years ago)

lol Trump never even got interviewed for this thing, what a joke

frogbs, Monday, 25 March 2019 14:40 (six years ago)

Barr made it clear a sitting president could not be indicted; I imagine Mueller took this seriously.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2019 14:43 (six years ago)

mueller is a nerd

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 14:44 (six years ago)

exclusive footage of robert mueller addressing the #resistance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RzmjzP2GoM

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 25 March 2019 14:57 (six years ago)

especially excruciating:

trump obstructed justice, in the open, on a nearly daily basis for 2 years, through firing comey and explicitly saying on national tv that it was because of Russia, through his constant rage at jeff sessions for recusing himself from the investigation, through his barely veiled threats to the intelligence agencies and the special counsel’s team. (at least, all of that sure seeeeemed like obstruction to me, but what do I know, as I am officially losing my mind)

and yet, a real, actual defense of all this by trump’s team, including the genius, triumphant rudy giuliani, is that none of this was trump actually obstructing anything, it was just trump being trump. you know, gregarious, outspoken, emotional. and that you can’t actually KNOW that it’s obstruction unless you get inside trump’s head. and they wouldn’t let anyone interview trump about his intentions because they knew he’d implicate himself, either by admitting it on accident, or on purpose. so Mueller leaves it in the open – and then Barr (who received confirmation votes from Doug Jones, Joe Manchin, and Kyrsten Sinema) looks at all this and decides it’s ok that trump, the one person who could speak to trump’s intentions, didn’t need to be interviewed and there’s no evidence supporting obstruction. Besides all the obvious public stuff that we all just witnessed for the last 2 fucking years.

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:04 (six years ago)

and also implied in the barr argument: because the thing that trump would have hypothetically obstructing (collusion with russians in the election) didn't happen, he can't be guilty of obstructing justice.

oooooooook

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:06 (six years ago)

seriously, in cloud cuckoo land here

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:06 (six years ago)

At this point, I'm just trying to take comfort in the low probability of Trump surviving to the end of his second term.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:08 (six years ago)

This guy is otm for once:

Barr’s logic is upside down. He is saying the finding of no criminal collusion undermines the findings that Trump obstructed justice. In fact, the obstruction undermines the findings of no criminal collusion.

Mueller has apparently found no criminal collusion between Trump and Russia, a finding that is hardly shocking. As Trump’s defenders have pointed out, collusion is not a crime. There are crimes that fall under the category of collusion — many former prosecutors have theorized that Mueller could indict Trump or his campaign under a conspiracy charge. Mueller did not find evidence strong enough to prove in a court of law, and possibly not at all.

It is bizarre, however, to spend two years insisting collusion is not a crime and then turn around and call the absence of crimes proof that there was no collusion. Of course Trump colluded with Russia. He literally went on camera and asked Russia to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails, promising that Russia would be rewarded by the American media, and Russia responded to this request by attempting a hack to steal Clinton’s emails that very day. Trump’s campaign aides repeatedly welcomed and sought out Russian assistance. His campaign manager passed on 75 pages of intricate polling data to a Russian operative during the campaign. And he did all this while secretly pursuing a lucrative business deal with Russia.

To define this nexus of communication and shared mission as something other than “collusion” is to define the term in a way that nobody would have accepted before this scandal began.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:09 (six years ago)

yeah it's the "only Trump knows if Trump is a racist" thing again, it's idiotic

I have never seen anyone get more of a pass for being a dumb grifting asshole in my life. feels like next year we'll be griping about all the Trump Org investigations concluding with "of course he scammed people, but that's Trump for ya!"

frogbs, Monday, 25 March 2019 15:10 (six years ago)

I told a buddy yesterday that there's another thing to consider: had Mueller had waited until this weekend to announce the indictments of Manafort, Gates, Stone, etc, we'd be thinking, "Holy shit, this is serious!"

Obviously this could never have happened because he needed one to rat on the other or to indict one to pressure the other.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:12 (six years ago)

It’s all really weird.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 15:19 (six years ago)

well that's kind of the media's desperation to frame anything they can as a "big win for Trump" - like, I keep seeing the take that this was a waste of money and a fruitless "witch hunt" when in fact it produced multiple indictments

not getting Junior is pretty stunning though

frogbs, Monday, 25 March 2019 15:23 (six years ago)

Still somehow hoping there is another boot to drop.

Stevolende, Monday, 25 March 2019 15:26 (six years ago)

Also, listening to the ladies from Mueller She Wrote saying that if all of this data can be collected and sorted through and no 'crime' found then maybe the definition of crime needs to be looked at.

Stevolende, Monday, 25 March 2019 15:28 (six years ago)

Whatever. Back to the primaries!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:34 (six years ago)

I’m surprised mueller was so willing to let down his fans

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 15:53 (six years ago)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/25/politics/mueller-obstruction-conclusion/index.html

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2019 16:04 (six years ago)

Seems weird

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 16:13 (six years ago)

He should have interviewed trump then

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 16:13 (six years ago)

If that was the case

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 16:14 (six years ago)

Look, when you have a shot at a primo Mar-a-Lago parking spot, you have to play your cards very carefully.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 March 2019 16:16 (six years ago)

Are special counsels supposed to push off a decision to the AG? Seems like the point of his role was to maintain independence

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 16:19 (six years ago)

The most disappointing thing is lack of any new secret scandal revelations - but then why trust this guy Barr who looks like John Goodman constipated - he is obviously covering things up

| (Latham Green), Monday, 25 March 2019 16:20 (six years ago)

Maybe trump is actually an ok guy

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 16:22 (six years ago)

I'd be willing to accept "too out of it to be capable of collusion"

| (Latham Green), Monday, 25 March 2019 16:26 (six years ago)

A lot doesn’t add up. The letter suggests russians solicited help from the campaign but were rebuffed by trump’s team. But why didn’t they report this to law enforcement then?

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 16:34 (six years ago)

And then try to cover it up, necessitating this whole investigation? Maybe “russia” was the wrong hook to go after trump but he has definitely been secretive and weird about a lot of things.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 16:36 (six years ago)

Whatever. Back to the primaries!

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Monday, 25 March 2019 16:39 (six years ago)

XP yeah Trump, maybehe's just got a bit of a behaviour problem. Somebody pretty similar to him seem sto have clouds of continually criminal behaviour happening all the time. Unfortunately they look so much like him that everybody thinks its him, they are almost identical and cospatial apparently.

Is taht the source of information r the information in that ccan't reach a conclusion thing. THought he had done things right in front of people. BUt since it's him it can't be criminal can it?

THing about how crime is defined is about an egalitarian leveled uunderstanding where similar behaviour across the board winds up with similar results,. I thought that was one of teh major problems people had with teh initial sentencing of Manafort, the idea of sentencing guidelines was supposed to make things far more equal across society & geiography so somebody sentenced for a similar crime anywhere would get similar sentencing. & similar behaviour from different people would be seen as at least nominally similarly treated. BUt wonder if that will ever happen.

Stevolende, Monday, 25 March 2019 16:40 (six years ago)

Well that was certainly a run of posts

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2019 16:47 (six years ago)

Avenatti arrested

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2019 17:31 (six years ago)

Now Trump will REALLY be ina good mood

| (Latham Green), Monday, 25 March 2019 17:32 (six years ago)

xpost soon to be frozen in carbonite

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 25 March 2019 17:32 (six years ago)

"I don't love you"

"i know"

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2019 17:34 (six years ago)

"Still somehow hoping there is another boot to drop."

(whimpers....'oppodump')

akm, Monday, 25 March 2019 17:38 (six years ago)

Attorney General Bill Barr has known for three weeks that special counsel Robert Mueller would not be making a determination on whether President Trump obstructed justice, multiple outlets reported Monday.

A source told CNN that this “unexpected” move on Mueller’s part left it to Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to determine how to weigh in on the issue.

There has been much speculation over how it took Barr only 48 hours from the time Mueller’s final report was submitted on Friday to release his Sunday afternoon summary, in which he said he and Rosenstein concluded there was “not sufficient” evidence to bring such a charge. This new development reveals the two Justice Department officials had more time to reach this conclusion. It’s not clear how much of the evidence Barr and Rosenstein were shown before Friday.

Karl Malone, Monday, 25 March 2019 17:43 (six years ago)

Barr has been a Republican crony for years

"Barr was known as a strong defender of presidential power and wrote advisory opinions justifying the U.S. invasion of Panama and arrest of Manuel Noriega, and a controversial opinion that the FBI could enter onto foreign soil without the consent of the host government to apprehend fugitives wanted by the United States government for terrorism or drug-trafficking.[7]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Barr

| (Latham Green), Monday, 25 March 2019 17:46 (six years ago)

ugh

"Barr is an avid bagpiper; he began playing the bagpipes at age 8, and has played competitively in Scotland with a major American pipe band. At one time, Barr was a member of the City of Washington Pipe Band.[31]

Barr and Robert Mueller have known each other since the 1980s and have been described as good friends. Mueller attended the weddings of two of Barr's daughters, and their wives attend Bible study together.[69]"

| (Latham Green), Monday, 25 March 2019 17:48 (six years ago)

I keep hearing this. Exoneration means you were in Cleveland when the fire started. Lack of evidence means the gas can was for the lawnmower. But only lawyers care about that. https://t.co/k7CIBzcv5g

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) March 24, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 March 2019 18:06 (six years ago)

god i can't imagine how embarbassing it must be one of those twitter "resistance" twerps that had done nothing but reply to trump and other repub figures with "tick tock" and game of thrones "mueller is coming" means

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 March 2019 18:15 (six years ago)

don't rely on heroes on white horses.
& shit floats.
Innit.

BUt just hope taht it does remain a catalyst for people to want to get up and get involved as it seems to have done for the last couple of years. But back then people still had hope, I guess.

Stevolende, Monday, 25 March 2019 18:22 (six years ago)

god i can't imagine how embarbassing it must be one of those twitter "resistance" twerps that had done nothing but reply to trump and other repub figures with "tick tock" and game of thrones "mueller is coming" means

This was always super embarrassing so part of me thinks it can't be much different for them now

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Monday, 25 March 2019 18:24 (six years ago)

really delightful that Rush Lumbago is screaming HOAX

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 March 2019 18:28 (six years ago)

im not sure who need to get over themselves more twitter resistance twerps or their haters, but luckily neither of them are capable of embarassment so here we are

Hunt3r, Monday, 25 March 2019 18:35 (six years ago)

Just a reminder that @DaftLimmy is probably the most prescient political commentator we've had in recent history. pic.twitter.com/GDG7yh96o8

— Madeley (@Madeley) March 24, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 25 March 2019 18:37 (six years ago)

Why does he get away with everything though? Why him?

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 18:49 (six years ago)

It’s still weird

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 18:51 (six years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo8s5fuSwo8

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 March 2019 18:57 (six years ago)

Because he is the most unfairly treated president of all time

xp

Karl Malone, Monday, 25 March 2019 18:58 (six years ago)

I'm always here for Jane Child.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2019 18:59 (six years ago)

it is weird. I mean the guy is more Teflon than Reagan now.

akm, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:04 (six years ago)

is he just lucky? he definitely was dancing along the edge of impropriety his entire life and yet, while almost all of his inner circle was taken down by mueller--for reasons other than conspiracy--he is "vindicated" somehow.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:08 (six years ago)

it is preposterous that michael cohen is going to jail and trump is not.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:10 (six years ago)

the Cohen thing is totally separate though

frogbs, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:11 (six years ago)

Part of the charges were related to campaign finance violations and lying to congress about trump tower moscow

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:12 (six years ago)

He’s not just going to jail for taxi medallions

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:13 (six years ago)

it is weird. I mean the guy is more Teflon than Reagan now.

― akm, Monday, March 25, 2019

Reagan averaged over 50 percent approval for most of his presidency and was personally popular like his party wasn't.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2019 19:13 (six years ago)

limmy rules. his take is right until we make it not right.

i guess in favor of resist twerps, theyre at least kicking against assholes, possibly distracting opposition, and i think being ridic overly optimistic in good faith. It’s not always a straight self-interested grift in the case of several, tho definitely not for all.

Twerp resistance haters are sort of interesting. Profiles seem to point a lot to “haters of establishment that FAILS US,” “haters of clintons,” “haters of women,” “haters of privilege,” “haters of _ANY_ support of status quo,” “haters of dems,” and even “haters of losers.”

Hunt3r, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:18 (six years ago)

I think the preferred one to me “haters of failure to recognize the valuable causes”

Hunt3r, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:22 (six years ago)

We definitely need to steer more in the direction of encouraging putative allies to tighten up their perspectives/messages rather than unburdening our would-be conquerors the effort of dividing us. I mean, our 'narcissism of small differences' game is on point, but maybe it's worth considering whether that might be a pointless act of self-annihilation, idk.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 March 2019 19:26 (six years ago)

Idk. It seems russiagate was a catastrophic distraction there should be some soul searching here

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:33 (six years ago)

Here's an oxymoron to contemplate: GOP hairshirt.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 March 2019 19:39 (six years ago)

It seems russiagate was a catastrophic distraction

catastrophic? oh, puh-leeeze spare us. what marvelous things were denied us because the nation was too distracted by russiagate? what catastrophe has overtaken us that was not born of Trump's election, rather than our distraction from... remind me what were we supposed to be doing instead?

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 25 March 2019 19:43 (six years ago)

Treesh bb are you having a time again

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 25 March 2019 19:47 (six years ago)

necessary esp given the gop buy-in for trumps hardcore oligopoly model.

russiagate has some dimensions. still it was necessary to ask 1 was it real, 2 should it be criminal and was it, and 3 should it disqualify pres? Answers for resist are yes, yes and yes. Answers from mueller are, so far, 1 yes, 2 only for a few flunkies and russians, and 3 ?!?

play on imo.

Hunt3r, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:47 (six years ago)

the idea that Mueller would find proof of Donald Trump, who does not use a computer, writing something like "YES I WILL DROP SANCTIONS IN EXCHANGE FOR HILLARYMAILS. BEST, [EKG-like signature]" was always a pipe dream, especially since Jr. leaked proof of himself doing just that and got away scot-free

frogbs, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:51 (six years ago)

there should be some soul searching here

pvmic

mookieproof, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:51 (six years ago)

https://www.vox.com/2019/3/25/18280122/congress-investigate-trump-tax-return

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:51 (six years ago)

by the way, even if they *HAD* found that proof, wouldn't that just lead to months of "So what, it isn't a crime!!! He's just willing to do what it takes to win!! He's a winner!!!", which I think would raise my blood pressure even more

frogbs, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:52 (six years ago)

remind me what were we supposed to be doing instead?

organizing voters and describing socialism to them

difficult listening hour, Monday, 25 March 2019 20:02 (six years ago)

^^^ otm, also pushing for voting reform everywhere i.e. vote by mail not the dumb "election day holiday" idea

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Monday, 25 March 2019 20:08 (six years ago)

i confess that part of my desire to see this vermin squashed is not just revulsion at trump’s disgusting and abusive and actually harmful core qualities, but wanting to remove the social and political impulses to install stronger larger fash policies and extractions. and also to deny his type greater access to actual levers of power. systems can fail worse than this. If you think it cant be worse, you are mistaken. If you think there’s a better oppty to eradicate it than now, i actually fear you may be wrong.

Hunt3r, Monday, 25 March 2019 20:10 (six years ago)

indeed!

difficult listening hour, Monday, 25 March 2019 20:10 (six years ago)

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/435681-trump-campaign-sends-memo-asking-tv-producers-challenge-past-guests-who?#_=_

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2019 20:30 (six years ago)

Honestly this is such a gift to his campaign

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 20:32 (six years ago)

I guess, but are any of the current dem candidates the ones that focused on collusion?

Evan, Monday, 25 March 2019 20:34 (six years ago)

Funny you should ask. Charles Pierce is following a few candidates:

Put simply, anyone who's telling you that the Democrats are in danger of overreaching in their criticism of El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago is selling you wooden nutmeg. In my first weekend following the 2020 election around, I heard general questions and answers about the president*'s character. (Pro tip: he has none.) And I heard a lot of talk about prying the presidency loose from the brigade of grifters, temp workers, and clucks he's installed in those executive branch jobs he's deigned to fill. But, mostly, I heard dialogue about a lot of problems and possible solutions that stretch beyond the green rooms of cable news—an environment, I admit, not unknown to me, and even less unknown to Cory Booker, truth be told. For example, remember criminal justice reform? Remember the carceral state? It's still out there as an issue.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2019 20:35 (six years ago)

no shit

difficult listening hour, Monday, 25 March 2019 20:37 (six years ago)

Remember the carceral state?

never seen someone identify his audience so clearly in so few words

difficult listening hour, Monday, 25 March 2019 20:37 (six years ago)

I had to talk a white male acquaintance off a Facebook ledge yesterday after he moaned that Donald Trump was re-elected.

Put simply, I'm really fucking tired of some of you guys on this thread implicitly begging Trump to win so you can return to moaning about how awful things are.

Those of us who are brown and gay in a state that Ron DeSantis barely won thank you for the leftist solidarity.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2019 20:38 (six years ago)

before the internet, you'd bury the lachrymose drivel in a spiral bound notebook. Congratulations.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2019 20:39 (six years ago)

White House spokesman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Monday that media figures and Democrats who accused President Trump of working with Russia were guilty of treason — and could face the death penalty.

“They are literally, the media and Democrats have called the president an agent of a foreign government. That is an accusation equal to treason, which is punishable by death in this country,” she said on NBC’s “Today” show.

The fuck

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 20:56 (six years ago)

Oh maybe she is just saying the dems accused trump of treason. The paper of record (nypost) is suggesting she is saying schiff and co committed treason

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 20:58 (six years ago)

No, "media figures and Democrats who accused President Trump of working with Russia were guilty of treason — and could face the death penalty" means "media figures and Democrats who accused President Trump of working with Russia were guilty of treason — and could face the death penalty."

CPAP Makers Scrambling After New ILX Sub-board Unveiled (WmC), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:02 (six years ago)

"Anyone I don't like and that has said mean things to me...BOOM! DEATH PENALTY!"

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:06 (six years ago)

what's new guys ?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:07 (six years ago)

I think at this point charging Schiff with treason would be an interesting test of our country's health.

pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:08 (six years ago)

It’s not cool

Trϵϵship, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:11 (six years ago)

You know that this would never happen right guys

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:17 (six years ago)

Like I'm not saying inflammatory language as such isn't alarming but uhh it's also what the Trump admin does daily and we're not going to wake up to guillotines tomorrow

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:17 (six years ago)

yeah I'm just saying it'd be interesting for them to try

pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:22 (six years ago)

guys isn't it weird how everyone, including basically all mainstream media, is taking this as a total exoneration of Trump, despite the fact that all we got was a 4-page summary written by a guy specifically installed to clear the President's name

frogbs, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:25 (six years ago)

Honestly this is such a gift to his campaign

people are gonna forget about this in 2 weeks

frogbs, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:26 (six years ago)

he's going to keep reminding them

Dan S, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:27 (six years ago)

She’s a piece of shit but that’s obviously not what she meant, she was emphasizing how serious the accusations were. lol that it’s the nypost though.

JoeStork, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:28 (six years ago)

yeah, her line was "the media and democrats have called the president an agent of a foreign government...that is an accusation that is equal to treason, which is punishable by death in this country."

Dan S, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:29 (six years ago)

people are gonna forget about this in 2 weeks

― frogbs, Monday, March 25, 2019 5:26 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yup. or at least the republicans will stop doing their victory dance if they have any sense. it's clear from barr's letter that the report is full of evidence that trump obstructed justice. it's in their interests to move on.

p.s. schiff should be primaried from the left. he fucken sucks.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:30 (six years ago)

We should probably give up on 2020 as a lost cause, given that something good happened for trump 19 months before the election and he’ll be steering a tight ship with the utmost competence for the rest of his term.

JoeStork, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:33 (six years ago)

Clinton's final "exoneration" in the emailgate cost her the election because it brought back up ugly associations. If the Pubs are wise, they'll take their victory lap and move on.

Dems should not let it happen tho. Make Barr and Mueller testify. Get the whole report released. Continue with your investigation.

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:33 (six years ago)

Lol Joe

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:34 (six years ago)

This is getting pretty... funny I guess?

JUST NOW: McConnell blocks Schumer measure calling for Mueller report to be made public

— Steven Dennis (@StevenTDennis) March 25, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:36 (six years ago)

Goddamn Trump called for it to be public. Put the fucker out there and stfu.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:45 (six years ago)

Myrtle speaks:

No collusion. No conspiracy. No obstruction. It’s good news that we can conclusively set aside the notion that the president and his team had somehow participated in Russia’s interference in our electoral process.https://t.co/OAfiDBeZ8d

— Leader McConnell (@senatemajldr) March 25, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:09 (six years ago)

here's what some very smart and sincere left-wing activists are saying on my fb feed:


watching the media and other bloviators tie themselves in knots is something to behold. As Matt Taibbi said, its this decades WMDs. Sad.
Time to talk about what's going on in peoples lives and the destruction of the federal government from within thats happening in plain sight every day. And then work to change it.

i can't help but feel that making this an either/or thing (we either concentrate on the russia stuff, or we work together to make the world a better place, or whatever) suggests a lack of imagination. no, mueller was never going to don a cape and save us. only idiots and grifters put any faith in that. but if you think that trump and the GOP's mercenary corruption and alliance with wordlwide bad actors isn't congruent with--a basic part of--the essential challenges we face toward achieving progressive goals, then... well like i said it suggests a lack of imagination.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:18 (six years ago)

i mean, i'm certainly more sympathetic to that view than to the louise mensches (sp?) of the world, though frankly i haven't really encountered those sort of "it's mueller time!" people in the wild and kind of doubt they exist in great number (even if some folks here have testified to their mothers brothers uncles workmates etc. being susceptible to that sort of wishful thinking). but again, the fact that our president is both a grifter and someone easily manipulated by flattery, a man whose instincts draw him to authoritarians, despots, and bigot -- all of which is part of the "russiagate" stuff--is a central fact of our political moment. and it's congruent with the antidemocratic, authoritarian MO of the contemporary GOP and the fascist media driving that.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:22 (six years ago)

I especially love how the Taibbi fans boy use Trump lingo ("Sad!"). But to be fair they're not alone -- a credulous media loves its presidents' language. Hence my avoiding "shellacking" and "normalcy." I only respond to "Fourteenth Amendment."

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:31 (six years ago)

McConnell blocks Schumer measure calling for Mueller report to be made public

This was as predictable as the sun rising. Every attempt will be made to block the release of anything beyond Barr's summary.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:36 (six years ago)

tbf i don't think trump ever had a copyright on "sad!"

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:37 (six years ago)

mcconnell might be the single worst actor in our entire contemporary political drama. he's certainly worse than trump, who at least has the excuse of being an addled syphilitic idiot.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:38 (six years ago)

i wonder if mcconnell even pretends to any aspiration beyond the accumulaton and exertion of power for its own sake, to himself.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:39 (six years ago)

maybe he'll choke on his own cock tonight

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:39 (six years ago)

"it's mueller mcconnell choking on his own cock time!"

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:40 (six years ago)

or y'know, die of old man with uncured mumps disease

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:41 (six years ago)

still have no idea where McConnell's ex-boyfriends are

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 March 2019 23:20 (six years ago)

people are gonna forget about this in 2 weeks

well, certainly by the election, unless they don't

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 March 2019 23:20 (six years ago)

from the nyt:

MUELLER REPORT
Trump and Republicans Seek to Turn the Tables in Post-Mueller Washington

President Trump and his allies vowed to pursue those behind the Russia inquiry after the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, found no conspiracy.
Mr. Trump denounced adversaries, calling them “treasonous” people who are guilty of “evil deeds” and saying they should be investigated themselves.

great job, america!

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:06 (six years ago)

Feel like this is familiar but I can't beng my hazi on why

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:08 (six years ago)

“treasonous people who are guilty of evil deeds”

I think he's been watching Advise and Consent: (Charles Laughton) "You're dealing with devious men, senator, yes sir. Devious, powerful men."

clemenza, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:13 (six years ago)

just our luck that this syphilitic goblin who doesn't exercise and eats 16 hamburgers a day would beat the actuary tables

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:15 (six years ago)

Would one valiant KFC employee be reckless in his or her application of toxic chemicals while cleaning, the odds would change

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:18 (six years ago)

xpost

apologies to syphilis, which doesn't deserve the association

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:20 (six years ago)

mcconnell might be the single worst actor in our entire contemporary political drama. he's certainly worse than trump, who at least has the excuse of being an addled syphilitic idiot.

― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, March 25, 2019 5:38 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i wonder if mcconnell even pretends to any aspiration beyond the accumulaton and exertion of power for its own sake, to himself.

― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, March 25, 2019 5:39 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I can't remember if it was posted here or not, but the recent Pareene profile of McConnell is good.

jaymc, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:30 (six years ago)

The Mueller Report is never going to register, organize, and do the GOTV required to beat @realDonaldTrump.

That's our job!!!

Stop waiting to participate in the hard work of democracy.

If we put in the work, we win.

— Andrew Gillum (@AndrewGillum) March 25, 2019

i'm posting this b/c i think this is a good, non-snarky way of phrasing this common and correct sentiment

but also, surely some indie band rehearsing as we speak is renaming themselves 'the mueller report'

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:36 (six years ago)

xpost

i'll try to read that article about mcconell, but i'm worried i'll grind my teeth down to stumps in the process.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:38 (six years ago)

the NYT's framing is so consistently awful that it has to be willful, right? editors are in the tank for trump?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/24/us/politics/trump-robert-mueller.html

For President Trump, it may have been the best day of his tenure so far. The darkest, most ominous cloud hanging over his presidency was all but lifted on Sunday...

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 01:03 (six years ago)

His graciousness in the face of 'victory' would tell everyone everything they need to know about this shitbag, were they of a mind to pay attention.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 02:03 (six years ago)

wonder what all the people saying this will irreversibly damage the DNC said about 9 Benghazi investigations

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 02:16 (six years ago)

Big news — Trump’s Justice Department says in a new court filing that the entire ACA should be struck down in a lawsuit (this is a shift; DOJ previously didn’t go that far).https://t.co/tlo3fVedPa pic.twitter.com/C4OfDs79jF

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) March 26, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 02:54 (six years ago)

I mean the Russia investigation started with a Republican Congress and that's already been forgotten so xpost

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 04:01 (six years ago)

Andrew Gillum otm

Teen Vogue also nails it here:

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/robert-mueller-finished-investigation-stop-obsessing-over-russia

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 04:14 (six years ago)

also fuck the NYT forever

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 04:15 (six years ago)

Dems like Pelosi need to set up meetings with Trump and just start hour long shouting matches with Trump until the fucker has a stroke.

But yes Gillum and TV otm

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 04:16 (six years ago)

I am probably the most upset at the current state of things that i have been since 2017 tho

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 04:16 (six years ago)

A good breakdown of how much Barr's letter elides in weasel words:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/mueller-report-barr-summary-obstruction-conspiracy-close-reading.html

steven, soda jerk (sic), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 08:26 (six years ago)

He can stay, he can go. He can be impeached, or voted out in 2020.

But removing Trump will not remove the infrastructure of an entire party that embraced him; the dark money that funded him; the online radicalization that drummed his army; nor the racism he amplified+reanimated.

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) March 24, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 11:55 (six years ago)

Big news — Trump’s Justice Department says in a new court filing that the entire ACA should be struck down in a lawsuit (this is a shift; DOJ previously didn’t go that far).https://t.co/tlo3fVedPa pic.twitter.com/C4OfDs79jF
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) March 26, 2019
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, March 25, 2019 10:54 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god love these fucking dopes for gaining a shred of political capital in the past few days and then immediately shooting themselves in the dick.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 13:53 (six years ago)

awesome news for Dem presidential candidates and House/Senate candidates.

Good morning!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 13:54 (six years ago)

@_waleedshahid
"The solution to climate change is not this unserious resolution...the solution to so many of our problems at all times and in all places is to fall in love, get married, and have some kids." -@SenMikeLee on @AOC and @SenMarkey's Green New Deal

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 17:34 (six years ago)

i just lost 80,000 brain cells

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 17:35 (six years ago)

Mike Lee is considered one of the greatest constitutional scholars of his generation.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 17:49 (six years ago)

kids are so bad for the carbon footprint

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 17:51 (six years ago)

i like how it's not just the solution to climate change, it's the solution to everything

oil spill? can't make rent? shin splints? get fuckin

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 17:59 (six years ago)

Then hurl the children into the sun, that'll show it!

Dan I., Tuesday, 26 March 2019 18:02 (six years ago)

Start here and just keep scrolling:

Here’s a template. Enjoy. pic.twitter.com/G1qZqOoWv8

— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) March 26, 2019

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 18:06 (six years ago)

charges against Jussie Smollett dropped, that's kind of unexpected

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 18:23 (six years ago)

kind of unexpected to come up in the politics thread too but i guess it's a big bucket these days!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 18:24 (six years ago)

lying to police should make you eligible for awards, not charges

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 18:26 (six years ago)

Smollett faked a MAGA attack. I wonder why it took so long to come up on this thread.

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 19:15 (six years ago)

But removing Trump will not remove the infrastructure of an entire party that embraced him; the dark money that funded him; the online radicalization that drummed his army; nor the racism he amplified+reanimated.

um u great but:
1 without it, your goals are sooo much harder, if not impossible, and
2 completely justified in ways that surpass historical systematic ills.

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 19:22 (six years ago)

or “systemic” which i think i phonetyped

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 19:23 (six years ago)

without what?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 19:29 (six years ago)

can't believe AOC is voting for trump next year

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 19:29 (six years ago)

still, I endorse referring to Trump as "it."

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 19:32 (six years ago)

daaamn

Like many other women + working people, I occasionally suffer from impostor syndrome: those small moments, especially on hard days, where you wonder if the haters are right.

But then they do things like this to clear it right up.

If this guy can be Senator, you can do anything. https://t.co/vU4ChbTnnr

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) March 26, 2019

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 20:00 (six years ago)

lol she wrote, and i quoted “(b)ut removing trump...”. i think my real shortfall was not starting 2 with “it is completely justified...”. Who are you the rachel maddow of phonetype grammar?

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 20:11 (six years ago)

LA Times, of all places, has the scoop

https://www.latlmes.com/breaking/full-leaked-robert-mueller-report

Simon H., Tuesday, 26 March 2019 20:22 (six years ago)

🤬

maura, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 20:25 (six years ago)

scathing

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 20:26 (six years ago)

two rickrolls in one thread? good job guys.

Yerac, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 20:26 (six years ago)

these are very long threads.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 20:27 (six years ago)

https://www.latlmes.com/obituaries/simon-h-3

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 20:27 (six years ago)

LA Times

LA Tlmes, you mean

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 20:41 (six years ago)

is that anything like Rashida Tlaib?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 20:47 (six years ago)

Apparently the Mueller report will not be turned over to Congress for weeks, and will first be reviewed and redacted by the WH.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 20:50 (six years ago)

The entire point of the special counsel’s investigation - to avoid the perception that the investigation and it’s conclusions are politicized - has been undermined.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 21:02 (six years ago)

WASHINGTON — Education Secretary Betsy DeVos on Tuesday defended deep cuts to programs meant to help students and others, including eliminating $18 million to support Special Olympics, while urging Congress to spend millions more on charter schools.

"We are not doing our children any favors when we borrow from their future in order to invest in systems and policies that are not yielding better results," DeVos said in prepared testimony before a House subcommittee considering the Department of Education's budget request for the next fiscal year.

It was the first time that DeVos, a wealthy former Michigan Republican Party chairwoman and school choice advocate, had been called before a Democratic-led panel in the U.S. House to explain President Donald Trump's spending priorities.

While proposing to add $60 million more to charter school funding and create a tax credit for individual and companies that donate to scholarships for private schools, DeVos' budget proposal would still cut more than $7 billion from the Education Department, about 10 percent of its current budget. President Trump proposed a $4.7 trillion overall budget this month with an annual deficit expected to run about $1 trillion.

It calls for eliminating billions in grants to improve student achievement by reducing class sizes and funding professional development for teachers as well as cutting funds dedicated to increasing the use of technology in schools and improving school conditions. In many cases, DeVos said the purpose of the grants has been found to be redundant or ineffective.

In the case of the $17.6 million cut to help fund the Special Olympics, a program designed to help children and adults with disabilities, DeVos suggested it is better supported by philanthropy and added, "We had to make some difficult decisions with this budget."

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/03/26/betsy-devos-special-olympics/3278388002

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 21:03 (six years ago)

If the white house so much as touches it prior to release i am not adverse to anything yet, but i dont know what ppl might have in mind.

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 21:05 (six years ago)

devos is a void of evil

maura, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 21:22 (six years ago)

I live in Ground Zero for charter school hell

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 21:29 (six years ago)

wow, special olympics even. thees people have zero shame.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 21:53 (six years ago)

https://www.latlmes.com/breaking/kublai-khan-found-alive-and-given-key-cabinet-position-3

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 21:56 (six years ago)

"we had to make some difficult decisions" should be an instant ticket to Hell.

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 21:57 (six years ago)

If someone proposed turning Betsy DeVos into a set of fancy luggage, I'd like to think that I would protest the essential inhumanity of such a horrific act, but I can't say with absolute certainty that I would. I might need to confer with my pastor on this moral conundrum, guys.

The First Time Ever I Fly @ U Face (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 21:59 (six years ago)

How did we go from Rickrolls to open Buffalo Bill fantasies

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 22:01 (six years ago)

it's that kind of day

pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 22:02 (six years ago)

Rickrolls to Buffalo Bill Fantasies: My Years in the Trump Family

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 22:02 (six years ago)

well DJT did try to purchase the Bills, maybe that was just a fantasy

pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 22:06 (six years ago)

"i love children," DeVos said, before adding, "i had one this morning on my toast"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 23:13 (six years ago)

'we can't afford $18m for special olympics' is amazing. that's a rounding error. it's half of one apache helicopter. six months of trump golfing. 20% of what the beloved military parade would cost. etc

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 23:15 (six years ago)

where's the evidence that the special olympics "work," mookie? c'mon!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 23:19 (six years ago)

teacher training, smaller classrooms BLAH BLAH HEARD IT ALL BEFORE we gotta build charter schools instead, which totally work great! and allow private school kids to use public money to defray their tuition fees! oooh lordy i feel a voucher comin on!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 23:22 (six years ago)

devos is a straight-up ghoul. Americans have a moral obligation to get people like her away from the levers of power as quickly as possible. if taking Trump down over Russia isn't it then something had better fucking be

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 23:24 (six years ago)

Lol we can barely convince millions of people that vaccines aren't poison

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 23:25 (six years ago)

OK, this is at least kinda funny.

Trump appoints Jon Voight, Mike Huckabee to Kennedy Center board

I'm sure the only reason he didn't nominate Ted Nugent and Kid Rock is that they're going to receive Kennedy Center Honors next year.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 00:01 (six years ago)

BREAKING: Deutsche Bank has agreed to turn over Trump’s financial records to Congress

— Jon Cooper (@joncoopertweets) March 27, 2019

Simon H., Wednesday, 27 March 2019 01:16 (six years ago)

air...guitar?

gbx, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 01:55 (six years ago)

I think I've found the worst take of all time, from the Dilbert man of all people

If climate change models are correct, the people who brought us the Russian Collusion hoax have doomed the planet to annihilation by making it impossible to convince skeptics to "believe this one." So there's that. #WeHadaGoodRun #RussianCollusion #GreenNewDeal #YouTooSmollett pic.twitter.com/bNzZ0SiIJ6

— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) March 26, 2019

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 02:46 (six years ago)

man he's got a lot of moron fans, huh

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 02:52 (six years ago)

"of all people"

gbx, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 02:54 (six years ago)

I live close to the devos empire and sometime in the last year a bunch of black stickers with FUCK BETSY DEVOS in rainbow lettering have appeared all over my town.

joygoat, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 02:55 (six years ago)

"OMG Is that a real pic?"

Mark G, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 08:39 (six years ago)

xp maracas.jpg!

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:38 (six years ago)

frogbs, please enjoy

Simon H., Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:42 (six years ago)

tucker carlson made the same point -- linking russiagate to wmds and then to climate change as examples of "mainstream" hoaxes

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 15:15 (six years ago)

His face is a hoax

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 15:15 (six years ago)

it's a narrative the right wing is running with for sure

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 15:16 (six years ago)

i'm sure they all said the same when Hillary's emails wound up being nothing

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 15:20 (six years ago)

Politico indicates Mulvaney & allies drove Obamacare decision over objection of AG https://t.co/6m0DXG8UFd

— Lawrence Hurley (@lawrencehurley) March 27, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 15:30 (six years ago)

lol

A Treasury Department committee has determined that Chinese ownership of Grindr constitutes a national security risk https://t.co/daP7nlejdv

— Liam Stack (@liamstack) March 27, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 16:51 (six years ago)

“CFIUS’ specific concerns and whether any attempt was made to mitigate them could not be learned” but I can guess

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 16:54 (six years ago)

amazing that the Trump admin was handed the single biggest win of his entire term and just immediately pivots to blowing up healthcare and the Special Olympics

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:22 (six years ago)

He's the Lane Kiffin of politics

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:29 (six years ago)

I still don't get : Trump fires Comey after worrying that he was investigating his connections to Russia - an investigation is launched to make sure there is no connection with Russia __ Obviously there is a connection to Russia and russian hackers are found guilty of hacking , and Trump friends and family know about the stolen emails - (.) (.) - Yet Trump is victorious because

1. There is no "collusion" which was never a crime to begin with

2. He is not exonerated nor convicted of obstruction of justice .WHAT WAS THE POINT THEN OF THE INVESTIGATION

Now the report gets redacted beyond all recognition before release??

SAD!!!

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:46 (six years ago)

2. He is not exonerated nor convicted of obstruction of justice .WHAT WAS THE POINT THEN OF THE INVESTIGATION

Investigations don't convict. It would be up to someone to bring charges, and then a trial to take place. The head lawyer for the entire country has chosen not to bring charges in one instance; Mr Mueller's purview has referred many other instances to other law agencies, who have brought charges and secured convictions already.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:51 (six years ago)

Ok then, I'd like to bring charges against Trump for being a dickhead

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:54 (six years ago)

LG you forgot the part where the President's son meets with the Russians with the explicit purpose of getting Hillarydirt in exchange for ????

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:59 (six years ago)

he remembered to put boobs in though

steven, soda jerk (sic), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:09 (six years ago)

fuck this fucking bullshit

State Rep. Stephanie Borowicz prayed for Trump and insisted everyone bow to Jesus just before Pennsylvania’s first Black Muslim woman Rep. Movita Johnson-Harrell was sworn in pic.twitter.com/ryS2lIn4pk

— NowThis (@nowthisnews) March 27, 2019

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:26 (six years ago)

how the fuck is an opening prayer at a state House even a thing ? this shit is crazy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=81&v=RLVrgWygwQo

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:49 (six years ago)

By the time she said “Amen,” Borowicz had invoked Jesus 13 times, deploying the name between prayerful clauses as though it were a comma.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:50 (six years ago)

There's a funny cartoon On The Internet about what it would sound like if you used someone's name as often in conversation as often as evangelicals do when they pray.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:51 (six years ago)

Borowicz had invoked Jesus 13 times well she didn't say it in front of a mirror in a dark bathroom so i don't think it will work

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:55 (six years ago)

yeah, welcome to rural pennsylvania.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:03 (six years ago)

By the time she said “Amen,” Borowicz had invoked Jesus 13 times, deploying the name between prayerful clauses as though it were a comma.

this is a holiness church thing i believe. i hear it on the radio while driving through rural kentucky.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:05 (six years ago)

There's a funny cartoon On The Internet about what it would sound like if you used someone's name as often in conversation as often as evangelicals do when they pray.

"Uh Bob, do you mind if Bob you could uh Bob make sixteen Bob copies of this Bob document for me Bob before this afternoon's Bob meeting, Bob thanks so Bob much."

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:05 (six years ago)

but to be honest of all the weird shit evangelicals do this one at least sounds interesting. like that steve reich piece "it's gonna rain" but real.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:06 (six years ago)

Jesus, amen, hallelujah, yes lord - all frequently used as a comma

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:06 (six years ago)

jesus christ with that lady

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:10 (six years ago)

oh duh i forgot PA still has people who ride around in horse and buggy and are afraid of letricity

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:11 (six years ago)

that lady is afraid of something, that's for sure

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:13 (six years ago)

replace politicians with computers from microsoft

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:13 (six years ago)

oh duh i forgot PA still has people who ride around in horse and buggy and are afraid of letricity

those people are amish and old-world mennonite and whatever you think of them they are not what this lady is.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:19 (six years ago)

she appears to have gone to high school in florida and college in orange county, california (minoring in bible). probably moved to lock haven for the climate

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:19 (six years ago)

jesus christ with that lady

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, March 27, 2019 8:10 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

amen praise the lord

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:19 (six years ago)

and the amish aren't afraid of electricity! in fact they usually have dispensation to use some modern tech (even computers) for work purposes. they just try to keep things closer to the lifeways of their ancestors than the rest of us.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:21 (six years ago)

no i know i was just thinking about rural PA and how it is a world unknown to me.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:27 (six years ago)

yeah sorry to be so pedantic.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:31 (six years ago)

xp it's appalachia

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:33 (six years ago)

http://i2.wp.com/i.imgflip.com/4ukki.gif

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:34 (six years ago)

I went to college in rural PA

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:37 (six years ago)

A Tree Called Ship

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:40 (six years ago)

curious if this will change

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/27/politics/cnn-poll-mueller-reaction-exoneration/index.html

Though President Donald Trump has claimed "complete and total exoneration" based on Attorney General William Barr's summary of special counsel Robert Mueller's report on Russian interference in the 2016 election, the American public disagrees, according to a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS.
A majority (56%) says the President and his campaign have not been exonerated of collusion, but that what they've heard or read about the report shows collusion could not be proven. Fewer, 43%, say Trump and his team have been exonerated of collusion.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:51 (six years ago)

xpost it's called Pennsyltucky

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:52 (six years ago)

speaking of tuckys

BREAKING: federal judge strikes down Kentucky's Medicaid work requirements. Again. Remands them back to HHS

— Nathaniel Weixel (@NateWeixel) March 27, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:56 (six years ago)

feel like i've heard someone from philly make the joke "Q: what's between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh? A: Alabama"

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:02 (six years ago)

I lived in central PA for two years and totally have been to Lock Haven. I don't recall it being rural. It's like every other town.

Yerac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:04 (six years ago)

hey America? have a blessed day.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:06 (six years ago)

And ffs I almost brought a dress that had those half bell sleeves until I realized that was an Ivanka look. And I see it's spreading like a buttered rice with these crazies.

Yerac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:06 (six years ago)

I really wish there was a bigger crossover between evangelicals and anti-vaxxers; the less of those people on the earth, the better.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:30 (six years ago)

i wish they'd just hasten their meeting with their maker and kindly leave the rest of us out of it

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:31 (six years ago)

Took me a minute to figure out why Jesus Lady's cadence sounded so familiar but I knew it would come to me eventually.

Kevin Nealon as Mr. Subliminal in his first SNL Weekend Update appearance in 1987 pic.twitter.com/io3Eo2lMZT

— SNL Snippets (@SNLSnippets) February 17, 2019

The wettest sandwich you ever ate, guaranteed! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:32 (six years ago)

it's like she about to cry it's not a fucking eulogy

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:35 (six years ago)

.@RepMalinowski asks SecPompeo about NorthKorea, Kim Jong Un and Otto Warmbier.

Malinowski: "So, what's to like?"
Pompeo: "They suffered mightily, sir."
Malinowski: "So, what's to like about Kim Jong Un?"
Pompeo: "Sir, don't make this a political football. It's inappropriate." pic.twitter.com/X22UvnHJWN

— CSPAN (@cspan) March 27, 2019

Pompeo is such a sanctimonious asshole

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:39 (six years ago)

"They Suffered Mightily, Sir" for April Title.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:57 (six years ago)

Though President Donald Trump has claimed "complete and total exoneration" based on Attorney General William Barr's summary of special counsel Robert Mueller's report on Russian interference in the 2016 election, the American public disagrees, according to a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS.
A majority (56%) says the President and his campaign have not been exonerated of collusion, but that what they've heard or read about the report shows collusion could not be proven. Fewer, 43%, say Trump and his team have been exonerated of collusion.

jury duty ftw

maura, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 22:53 (six years ago)

All of the republican members of the house intelligence committee have signed a letter demanding that Adam Schiff resign from his chairman’s role

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 March 2019 15:01 (six years ago)

in his place i'd ostentatiously take it into the men's room

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 March 2019 15:06 (six years ago)

He should just laugh and say he has to go take a Nunes

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 March 2019 15:07 (six years ago)

I will step down when you do, Mr. President.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 28 March 2019 15:20 (six years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2wVbWsXcAEMilA.jpg

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 March 2019 15:32 (six years ago)

drain the lagoon

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 March 2019 15:34 (six years ago)

stop the simulation i wanna get off

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 28 March 2019 17:13 (six years ago)

All of the republican members of the house intelligence committee have signed a letter demanding that Adam Schiff resign from his chairman’s role

― Karl Malone, Thursday, March 28, 2019 3:01 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

THat's just so adolescent.
Can they actually believe the idea i think that's linked to. Nobody's seen any more of the report than Barr's fudging of it have they.
Do they think they know something or are they just willing stooges.
Just wondering on their level of intentionality

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 March 2019 17:31 (six years ago)

sub-Curly stooges

Schiff can be Moe-like, tho

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 March 2019 17:32 (six years ago)

I guess Bannon's still alive

sort of

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2tPEmlWoAMm9h4.jpg

Number None, Thursday, 28 March 2019 19:26 (six years ago)

Refashioning a corpse into a ventriloquist's dummy for a cable news show is in such bad taste, no matter the decedent in question.

The wettest sandwich you ever ate, guaranteed! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 March 2019 19:31 (six years ago)

man the cryptkeeper really let himself go

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 28 March 2019 19:35 (six years ago)

sam the eagle looking good tho!

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 28 March 2019 19:35 (six years ago)

"Bannon doesn't drink" is still among the most amazingly transparent lies of the Trump admin

pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 28 March 2019 19:50 (six years ago)

fascist meat loaf performing fat out of hell

Neus Anneus (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 March 2019 19:53 (six years ago)

tonight's Nazi rally is gonna incredibly lit and I predict that Trump will order his fans to murder journalists

frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2019 20:20 (six years ago)

doing all the classics

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 28 March 2019 20:45 (six years ago)

“Y’know, we don’t do like other countries, other countries stand there with machine guns ready to fire. We can’t do that, and I wouldn’t wanna do that. It’s a very effective way of doing it, and I wouldn’t wanna do it, we can’t do it.”

btw did i say how effective it would be if we did do that ?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:08 (six years ago)

For the millionth time, sorry, but just consider: what if Obama or any other democratic president ever said that?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:21 (six years ago)

trouble in paradise

!! TRUMP: “I have overridden my people, we’re funding the special Olympics”

— Kathryn Watson (@kathrynw5) March 28, 2019


DeVos statement on President Trump supporting Special Olympics: "I am pleased and grateful the president and I see eye to eye on this issue, and that he has decided to fund our Special Olympics grant. This is funding I have fought for behind the scenes the last several years."

— Erica L. Green (@EricaLG) March 28, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:22 (six years ago)

oceania has always been at war with eastasia

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:23 (six years ago)

what the fuck is even going on anymore

have you guys seen the pictures from el paso?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:26 (six years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2rqjdNWoAAN6Ly.jpg:large

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:26 (six years ago)

article: https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/customs-and-border-patrol-head-says-breaking-point-has-arrived-at-texas-border/

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:28 (six years ago)

how is that not a still from children of men

recreational colonoscopies 4 u (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:31 (six years ago)

refugee concentration camps were a thing in Children Of Men bcz Cuaron was bothered by IRL refugee concentration camps

steven, soda jerk (sic), Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:36 (six years ago)

You see those people would all be stopped if we only had a wall . after traveling 1000s of miles though all kinds of hardships a wall would just be too much and they would turn around

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:37 (six years ago)

The point of the wall is that you wouldn't have to see their plight.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:58 (six years ago)

refugee concentration camps were a thing in Children Of Men bcz Cuaron was bothered by IRL refugee concentration camps

― steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 29 March 2019 8:36 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Advance Australia Fair

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 28 March 2019 22:03 (six years ago)

I guess Bannon's still alive

sort of

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2tPEmlWoAMm9h4.jpg

Holy Shit, it's Liverace!

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 28 March 2019 23:53 (six years ago)

We Don't Need No Fascist Meat Loaf

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 March 2019 23:59 (six years ago)

the deputy director of communications for trump's 2020 campaign weighs in with some measured words of wisdom

I'm sure Democrats who see abortion as the cure for Down syndrome and other disabilities are sincerely concerned about kids having the chance to be in the Special Olympics

— Matt Wolking (@MattWolking) March 28, 2019

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 March 2019 00:05 (six years ago)

NPR was breathlessly echoing the feds' "crisis at the border" line this morning

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 March 2019 00:18 (six years ago)

Cool that Trump and DeVos see eye to eye. Too bad neither can actually re-fund the Special Olympics at this point.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 29 March 2019 00:39 (six years ago)

guys things are rly bad

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 29 March 2019 00:48 (six years ago)

It’s been just four days since the president learned that Robert Mueller found no evidence of collusion, but Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump’s lawyer, is no longer in the mood to celebrate. He’s thrilled about the outcome, of course, as is his client. Trump told the former New York mayor that “he’s happier than he thought he would be.” But Giuliani, sipping a Diet Coke on Wednesday morning at the Trump Hotel, said it’s time to focus on the next mission: Find out who started all this—and why.

“We’re now trying to prove who did it,” Giuliani said. “The premise is, somebody had to have started the ‘He colluded with the Russians’” narrative. (Never mind that Trump’s posture toward the Kremlin has long been strange.) Asked whether the president himself wants an investigation to examine this question, Giuliani said, “Goddamn right he [does]. This is not ‘Oh, gee, it’s over, let’s forget about it.’”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/trump-wants-campaign-mueller-report-2020/585967/

this reminds me of the around year 4 of #benghazi, when the obama administration launched an effort to find out who started the "#benghazi" narrative. but then about 15 minutes later they were just like "oh yeah, fox news and breitbart and daily caller"

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 March 2019 00:54 (six years ago)

and actually, i'm already slapping myself silly about that post because it implies equivalence between #benghazi and the mueller investigation

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 March 2019 00:55 (six years ago)

*trump legal team investigates to get to the bottom of things*

"Wow it turns out we actually did crimes. our bad"

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 29 March 2019 01:14 (six years ago)

Reminds me of OJ's hunt for the real killer

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 29 March 2019 01:18 (six years ago)

if i colluded

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 March 2019 01:21 (six years ago)

I have a better education than them
I'm smarter than them
I went to the best schools
they didn't

Much more beautiful house
much more beautiful apartment
Much more beautiful everything
And I'm president
and they're not

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 29 March 2019 02:40 (six years ago)

hero

Look in the background during Interior Secretary Nominee David Bernhardt's opening statement.

Watch LIVE on C-SPAN3 https://t.co/i3oegv9okf pic.twitter.com/UiiaVfV8h2

— CSPAN (@cspan) March 28, 2019

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 March 2019 03:38 (six years ago)

We’re now trying to prove who did it,” Giuliani

It’s worth keeping an eye on the Ukrainian election this weekend. There was always a counter-narrative that the Clinton campaign was ‘colluding’ with the Ukrainian secret service but the strong post-election relationship with Poroshenko meant it was always unlikely Trump would go after a deferential ally. If Poroshenko gets voted out (which is probably 50/50) and you have another leader looking to suck up to him, and trash the previous government, that might change. It would be risky, as it would raise questions about why Ukraine was so keen to keep Trump out, but I wouldn’t bet money that he is smart enough to let it go.

ShariVari, Friday, 29 March 2019 06:54 (six years ago)

last updated eleven hours ago

Mueller killed politics

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 29 March 2019 17:56 (six years ago)

As a fellow Learned League member, I enjoyed this:

it appears that mick mulvaney is getting his ass kicked in his private trivia league https://t.co/mVsewzRmTv

— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) March 29, 2019

jaymc, Friday, 29 March 2019 18:01 (six years ago)

what the

Rep. McAuliffe introduces the "Jussie Act" to strip tax credits from film productions that employ any person been who has participated in a deferred prosecution program for disorderly conduct or for falsifying a police report of a hate crime. #twill https://t.co/9YWPm0uMnX

— Anthony Michael Kreis (@AnthonyMKreis) March 29, 2019

frogbs, Friday, 29 March 2019 18:06 (six years ago)

finally the legislation america desperately needs

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:06 (six years ago)

we all need relief from this longstanding scourge

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:08 (six years ago)

Bespoke law is the new market inefficiency

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:08 (six years ago)

If Morton Downey Jr. were still alive he'd be pissed

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:12 (six years ago)

cool to make a law that will literally never apply to anyone

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:13 (six years ago)

good to know which kind of meddling government red tape is a-ok

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:32 (six years ago)

Ahhhh, okay, so this is how we wind up with those 'Did you know it's illegal to wear red shorts on a Sunday in Nantucket?!' laws.

WAS ACTING A FOOL AND FELL ON GRILL (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:46 (six years ago)

Federal tax law is rife with provisions carefully crafted so as to apply only to a single entity, either a person or a corporation, without specifying it by name. There must be hundreds of these, if not thousands. This is one of the dirty secrets of Congress.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:51 (six years ago)

oh, good afternoon!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:57 (six years ago)

Film Production Tax Credits are such an interesting hobby horse for GOP grandstanding. After the Weinstein story broke, this Texas House rep tried to completely repeal the already-dwindling ones here to "discourage Hollywood predators coming to our state."

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:06 (six years ago)

irrational exuberance

White House chief economic adviser Larry Kudlow called on the Federal Reserve to “immediately” cut interest rates by a half percentage point https://t.co/fXMDUnjVJ7

— Bloomberg (@business) March 29, 2019

mookieproof, Friday, 29 March 2019 19:15 (six years ago)

whatever he says, do this opposite: https://www.nationalreview.com/2005/06/housing-bears-are-wrong-again-larry-kudlow/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:17 (six years ago)

Anytime I see Larry Kudlow’s name I think it’s Jim Cramer and think “of course that’s who Trump hired”

pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:40 (six years ago)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Attorney General William Barr plans to issue a redacted copy of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s nearly 400-page investigative report into Russian interference in the 2016 election by mid-April, he revealed in a letter to lawmakers on Friday.

“Everyone will soon be able to read it on their own,” Barr wrote in the letter to the top Democrats and Republicans on the Senate and House Judiciary committees.

He said he is willing to appear before both committees to testify about Mueller’s report on May 1 and May 2.

16 Historic English ILXors You Must Explore Soon (WmC), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:43 (six years ago)

Good

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 29 March 2019 20:18 (six years ago)

expect this to be _severely_ redacted, they're just buying time

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 29 March 2019 20:34 (six years ago)

this will look like a book of Ad Reinhardt paintings

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 29 March 2019 20:55 (six years ago)

It seems like the redactions are meant to follow specific rules and will be put into place in coordination with Mueller.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 29 March 2019 21:17 (six years ago)

People who still have hope that things will improve are the worst.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 29 March 2019 21:53 (six years ago)

Cool, thanks

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 29 March 2019 21:55 (six years ago)

Trump on reversing North Korea sanctions: "In a certain way it's like the Special Olympics. For many years it hasn't been approved and then at some point it gets negotiated out in Congress. Well, I went out, and I said we're going to have funding for the Special Olympics." ?

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) March 29, 2019

thank you Trump for finally funding the Special Olympics

frogbs, Friday, 29 March 2019 21:56 (six years ago)

Larry Kudlow did a tv show with Jim Cramer back in the early 00's. It was the show before Cramer got his big button.

earlnash, Friday, 29 March 2019 22:53 (six years ago)

Anytime I see Larry Kudlow’s name I think it’s Jim Cramer and think “of course that’s who Trump hired”

thank you for finally clearing this up for me

j., Friday, 29 March 2019 23:49 (six years ago)

WrestleMania Year Zero

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/436536-trump-campaign-starts-selling-pencil-neck-adam-schiff-t-shirts

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:58 (six years ago)

yeah, it's like that mixed with jerry springer

Karl Malone, Saturday, 30 March 2019 02:12 (six years ago)

this is lacking your kofi kingston and your becky lynch so

maura, Saturday, 30 March 2019 02:15 (six years ago)

when trump does tv interviews on fox he's like springer guest starring on maury

Karl Malone, Saturday, 30 March 2019 02:19 (six years ago)

sign of the times: trump has been repeatedly warning that he will close the southern border next week, and it doesn't even make the news or, more importantly, this thread

The DEMOCRATS have given us the weakest immigration laws anywhere in the World. Mexico has the strongest, & they make more than $100 Billion a year on the U.S. Therefore, CONGRESS MUST CHANGE OUR WEAK IMMIGRATION LAWS NOW, & Mexico must stop illegals from entering the U.S....

....through their country and our Southern Border. Mexico has for many years made a fortune off of the U.S., far greater than Border Costs. If Mexico doesn’t immediately stop ALL illegal immigration coming into the United States throug our Southern Border, I will be CLOSING.....

....the Border, or large sections of the Border, next week. This would be so easy for Mexico to do, but they just take our money and “talk.” Besides, we lose so much money with them, especially when you add in drug trafficking etc.), that the Border closing would be a good thing!

----

Mexico must use its very strong immigration laws to stop the many thousands of people trying to get into the USA. Our detention areas are maxed out & we will take no more illegals. Next step is to close the Border! This will also help us with stopping the Drug flow from Mexico!

(note: i don't blame the news or this thread for not mentioning it. he is just cosplaying his idea of how a president announces policies, through twitter. still, super weird and surreal for this to be a thing that everyone is so used to that it doesn't even merit a mention)

Karl Malone, Saturday, 30 March 2019 20:42 (six years ago)

he's mentioned a bunch of bullshit because he feels emboldened, but Barr letter changed nothing and most people still think he's a buffoon blowhard to be ignored.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 March 2019 22:12 (six years ago)

It's been on the news - it's just been treated as "big dumb asshole says dumb shit, here's a response from the president of Mexico." I think a growing subset of the media is starting to give Trump utterances the correct response, which is, "Yeah, yeah, we'll believe it when we see it."

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 30 March 2019 22:47 (six years ago)

it's a bit late when you can see it, tho

I am message board pro and respond when talked to (stevie), Sunday, 31 March 2019 07:38 (six years ago)

what a world

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeff-bezos-investigation-finds-the-saudis-obtained-his-private-information?ref=home

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 31 March 2019 12:02 (six years ago)

You got us again, Saudi Arabia. Now we're only going to give you 327 more chances. On the other hand, it's just so hard to stay mad at you, so carry on, I guess.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 March 2019 12:12 (six years ago)

“We as Saudis will never accept to be attacked by the Washington Post in the morning, only to buy products from Amazon and Souq.com by night! Strange that all three companies are owned by the same Jew who attacks us by day, and sells us products by night!”
“Our weapon is to boycott… because the owner of the newspaper is the same as their owner.”
“We're after you - the Jew, worshipper of money, will go bankrupt by the will of God at the hands of Saudi Arabia... the owner of Amazon and Souq is the owner of the Washington Post is the spiteful Jew who insults us every day.”

Bezos is not Jewish, but you get the point.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 March 2019 12:15 (six years ago)

I like this guy's brand of snark:

Though relatively benign at first (“Al Gore’s Diet Is Making Him Stupid”), the Trump/Pecker relationship has metastasized: In effect, the Enquirer became an enforcement arm of the Trump presidential campaign, and presidency, as the U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York laid out in its case against Michael Cohen, who has pleaded guilty. The U.S. Attorney has done the country a service by levying extensive controls on AMI, David Pecker, and his deputy Dylan Howard, through a non-prosecution agreement that requires them to commit no other crimes for three years, and requires everyone at AMI to attend annual training on federal election laws. I’m guessing that’s not how they used to spend their time.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 March 2019 12:18 (six years ago)

Time to get to work on April's thread title. On this subject I shall defer to my betters.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 31 March 2019 17:40 (six years ago)

April: I, myself, have almost had like a form of psychosis

16 Historic English ILXors You Must Explore Soon (WmC), Sunday, 31 March 2019 17:52 (six years ago)

New NBC poll:

Only 29% say Trump has been cleared of wrongdoing:https://t.co/OdfGaSqqaG

New WaPo poll:

Only 32% say Trump has been exonerated on obstruction (but public is evenly split on whether Trump committed wrongdoing re Russian interference):https://t.co/gxvlFXeXgq

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) March 31, 2019

Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 March 2019 18:53 (six years ago)

Maybe people have been noticing that he has consistently and relentlessly acted guilty as hell since the day he fired Comey and Mueller was named as special counsel and they decided this probably means what it looks like it means.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 31 March 2019 19:10 (six years ago)

Looking at the most recent tweets, the phrase that sticks out is "weak and very stupid".

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 31 March 2019 19:11 (six years ago)

^^That's re: April thread title.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 31 March 2019 19:11 (six years ago)

April: record deepness

rob, Sunday, 31 March 2019 19:15 (six years ago)

But perhaps the most startling story concerned a round with the sportscaster Mike Tirico before Trump was elected.

Tirico, the Post wrote, “hit the shot of his life, a 230-yard 3-wood towards an elevated green he couldn’t see. But he knew it was close. When he got to the putting green, however, Tirico’s ball was nowhere to be seen. Instead, it was 50ft left of the hole in a bunker. It made no sense – until Trump’s caddy caught up with him after the round.

Tirico was quoted as saying: “Trump’s caddy came up to me and said, ‘You know that shot you hit on the par 5? It was about 10ft from the hole. Trump threw it in the bunker. I watched him do it.’”

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 31 March 2019 19:49 (six years ago)

he is a comically evil person, just absolutely without any redeeming features.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:00 (six years ago)

No man's land: How Trump Tower became Chicago retail's biggest failure

About a year before the 2005 groundbreaking for Trump International Hotel & Tower, Trump Organization executive Charles Reiss met the late Chicago real estate broker Bruce Kaplan and his colleague, Leslie Karr. The Trump family, Reiss said, wanted advice on how to market the retail space that would face the Chicago River at the tower’s base.

“The way it’s designed now, it’s never going to lease up,” Karr recalls telling Reiss. The roughly 70,000-square-foot deck’s 10-foot ceilings, undulating facade and sunken location would be too awkward to attract customers, she said.

...

“It’s a dreadful space,” said Karr, who is now senior vice president for retail at SVN Chicago Commercial. “You could have some kind of luxury call center there, or maybe a high-end med spa, but not at the prices they were asking.”

A decade after the tower opened in 2009, it has just one retail tenant, a salon that occupies an enclosed 3,400-square-foot suite above the hotel lobby. The entire deck-level space remains empty, its blank beige walls on full display for the millions of tourists who stroll along the river each year. No part of it has ever been leased, according to Trump Organization tax appeal documents filed in Cook County and analyzed by The Real Deal.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:33 (six years ago)

i try to take one of these pics every time i drive over there, but it depends on the traffic lights.

https://i.imgur.com/CmpqKSd.png

Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:36 (six years ago)

maybe if we just don't have an April thread nothing bad will happen and everyone can have a nice time

steven, soda jerk (sic), Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:49 (six years ago)

POLL

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:49 (six years ago)

The funny thing, it's actually a nice looking building that works well in the skyline! For that one year or whatever before they farted his name on the front it fit right in. Now it just gives you something to scowl at as you float by on a water taxi. Even the fancy restaurant had to close and reboot with a new chef because everyone was shunning it.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 March 2019 21:35 (six years ago)

"TRUMP" should have a negative brand value. Stick those letters on a building and vacancies rise, while rents and sales prices fall.

I haven't had the opportunity to decline to attend a conference or wedding reception held at a T. property, but it would have to be easier than estrangement from MAGA-hat family over the past couple years.

Our grandchildren should all know him as the amoral buffoon who made the heat waves, famines, and migration crises of their own times incrementally worse. One of the reasons given for inaction on climate is those most responsible won't be affected. We should consider "visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations" as one way of encouraging good leadership, and if that requires dragging Ivanka's surname through the mud for decades, I'm game.

bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy (Sanpaku), Monday, 1 April 2019 00:07 (six years ago)

So, what's the new thread gonna be?

Mark G, Monday, 1 April 2019 10:48 (six years ago)

miserable

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Monday, 1 April 2019 11:21 (six years ago)

morning!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 April 2019 11:25 (six years ago)

xpost It's been mentioned before, but he's the rare person whose election to the White House will result in his name on fewer things, not more.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 April 2019 11:44 (six years ago)

BUt might just be that anything said by him today is going to be thought to fall under the same rubrik, maybe should be every other day too.

Stevolende, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:01 (six years ago)

i think that might be photoshopped

i can tell by the pixels

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:03 (six years ago)

those middle finger photos are so satisfying

maura, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:29 (six years ago)

US Politics April 2019: "We apologize for the error — lol, April Fools!"

16 Historic English ILXors You Must Explore Soon (WmC), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:47 (six years ago)

xpost Yes. I have to avert my eyes to avoid seeing that shit on the walk to and from the train every weekday, who knew a flying bird would be the perfect complement.

A man of surgery, to remove the metal pellets from my flesh (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:49 (six years ago)

US Politics April 2019 Thread: 'I find that pretty hard to believe'

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:38 (six years ago)


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