An awful shower altogether - vote for the worst member of the Irish diaspora

This is obviously non exhaustive but I was going for the absolute worst I could think of.

Not included: emigrants or citizens raised or living in Ireland.

Also not included: people like George Osborne who claim they’re Irish (but are actually Ascendancy).

Reagan and Blair had the most power. I am still directly affected by Reagan's misdeeds, so him.

Morrissey

He is indisputably a cunt but the Smiths were classic and does he have a body count

I was kind of joking but i'm not joking, i'm not gonna apply malecific calculus to this decision

Murdoch comes in close to the top for me, too.

whither lucky, of lucky charms breakfast cereal infamy

Piers Morgan tho

actually can i vote for the city of boston, massachusetts

michael flatley just wanted to bring the world together through the joy of dance, how dare u

Terrible men.

He is (not surprisingly) a racist:

Michael Flatley openly supports Mike "violent rapist" Tyson AND Gemma "the racist" O'Doherty. Yeah, the world's favourite Irish American doesn't like immigrants. The ignorance of this is bewildering yet fits his egocentric character. #noracists #immigrantswelcome pic.twitter.com/SS7T39JRou

— A ☁️Cloud☁️ On A String (@acloudonastring) January 13, 2019

ok so he wanted to bring some parts of the world together more than others, i'll give you that

funnyman Rory McGrath

morrissey's bad songs are worse than war i am not taking questions at this time

Aleister Crowley? What am I saying, he's better than this lot.

the moral arc of an ilx thread can be long, but it bends toward rory mcgrath

― mark s, Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:49 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

crowley initiated the age of horus, what have these fuckers ever done

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51XFtDcCGQL._SX350_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

Citation needed for Crowley?

he definitely initiated the age of horus everyone knows that no citation needed

in my opinion the non-irish hitler was worse than the irish hitler

also he was barbara bush's dad

Just away to research Gaz Coombes's ancestry.

mcgrath for pronouncing it that way

would put james mcclean there too

Doesn't count, he's one of you lot, not a descendant.

it is quite amusing how the wiki page on English people of Irish descent is so padded out with shitty EFL journeymen, whose height of fame was their 2 ROI under 21's caps 10 years ago or their big move to PNE.

The radio station I have an occasional show on have news clippings by the door, one of them is their youngish female presenter reviewing a restaurant with Rory McG. Every time I pass it I think about how her fledgling media career has led to her basically being required to go on a date with a disheveled bore and convicted stalker 30 years her senior, maybe she doesn't see it like that, but it's still very creepy.

Let's not be picking on aging disheveled bores please

Doesn't count, he's one of you lot, not a descendant.

― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 19:43 (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

diaspora

This is obviously non exhaustive but I was going for the absolute worst I could think of.

Not included: emigrants or citizens raised or living in Ireland.

Also not included: people like George Osborne who claim they’re Irish (but are actually Ascendancy).

― gyac, Tuesday, May 7, 2019 11:46 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark

Ronald Reagan couldn't even finish his pint when he visited Ballyporeen. Scum. Subhuman scum.

What did James mcclean ever do to merit inclusion?

Also how does McGrath pronounce it? Is it a Jonathan Powell & his brother situation?

Harry Kane

declan rice

what did terry wogan do to merit non-inclusion

he is worse than bridget hitler

migratttthh

Xxp worst emigrants is a different poll

Wogan is an actual Irishman of the Duke of Wellington school

all of generation emigration

anyway it's Blair tho obv not irish

Daniel Day-Lewis lays it on a bit thick tbh

Couldn't decide, so I consulted my husband on this one. He says Bannon, so that's how I voted.

If the poll were asking to determine the most punchable, I wouldn't have hesitated a second before voting Hannity.

I voted for Brendan O’ Neill, as he really puts in the effort at being a cunt 100%, no distractions like making music or getting elected

if memory serves jim davidson's mum was irish.

ts: Blair vs Flatley for most diddley-eye shite

Blair:

Tony Blair has described his late mother as an “almost saintly woman” whose death changed his life forever. Blair’s mother Hazel Blair was raised in Co. Donegal and came from what he described as a ‘fiercely Protestant’ family.

Speaking about his Irish roots, Blair said that he loved going to Ireland every year and the family would usually stay at the Sandhouse Hotel in Rossnowlagh, near Ballyshannon.

He wrote, “At that beach I learned to swim in the freezing Atlantic Ocean. I had my first go at chasing girls, aged about 11. I was taught my first chords on the guitar. I drank my first Guinness.”

His father, Michael, came from Culfadda, Co. Sligo, and his mother Eilish from Co. Carlow. They left Ireland in 1947 for Chicago “with nothing, like most Irish people,” according to their son.

They worked hard at their construction business, through punishing summers and freezing winters.

“We worked seven days a week, including holidays, we didn't go on unemployment benefit but we made it,” Flatley told a conference in 2007. “We didn't bitch about the guy next door who was richer because he sold his house for more money and we didn't bitch about the guy down the street who might be poorer. That is the sign of the Irish spirit.”

Jim Davidson was on the wiki list.

funny little wormhole to go down is the bridget hitler one, and where all that nonsense about the scouse hitlers comes from. lolled at her son William Patrick Hitler failing to blackmail Hitler into giving him a top job in the reich, then writing an article entitled Why I hate My Uncle for Time magazine.

wayne rooney

“We didn't bitch about the guy next door who was richer because he sold his house for more money and we didn't bitch about the guy down the street who might be poorer. That is the sign of the Irish spirit.”

lol no it's not

fact

Begrudgery is as Irish a characteristic as you’ll find!

Also lol at his parents leaving the country in 1947.

the true irish spirit in those circs is "i knew him when he had no arse to his trousers"

I've got vivid early memories of next door but one Polish neighbours the Wenzels having very unseemly "Polish scum" "Irish bastards" type over the hedge slanging matches on the regular with my parents.

My Perthshire girl is pointing out that this is all well and good and all, but they've got Trump.

They can also claim Blair and Murdoch and Gove!

claim/take

Are any of the Barca lads Irish at all

gerard pique anyway

I mean, Blair and Gove are actually Scottish, though.

Blair is more fucking Australian than Irish.

he only lived in australia for a few years as an infant.

I don’t think anyone disputed Gove being Scottish lol but unfortunately Blair counts as diaspora

Love how he paid tribute to his “fiercely Protestant” mother by becoming a deeply weird catholic convert as an adult

blair was born in scotland and spent a good deal of his childhood and youth there however

(lived there as a tot and then attended fettes as a teen)

discarding his accent along the way

Fite, but I would wager there's more evil Scottish diaspora bastards in the world than Irish - if not in total then in proportion.

nah id saw thats right

just in ireland alone like

These US Presidents who all claim to be Irish are usually Ulster Scots efter a'

I'm just remembering (I'm not sure if this is a fake memory) Cathal Coughlan saying in an interview that when he met Mark E Smith for the first time, he said hello and MES replied: you're not Irish and just walked past him.

If Blair and Murdoch teach us anything it’s that Irish and Scottish combinations can sometimes result in the most uniquely evil people

don't underestimate the Australian factor as well.

We mixed the worst ingredients of Irish, Scottish and English culture and baked it in the sun for a couple of hundred years

We think you'll like the results

basically its the scotch

think nakh had sent me on a link before demonstrating the shite they made of anywhere they went

awful bunch

Invented passing in football too - ruining a once noble game

the 2nd gen pseudo scotch are worse than irish equivalents surely. idk rod fucking stewart!

Oh God no, nothing's worse than a Plastic Paddy.

Like 80% of the population of the USA, for example.

they don't count, everyone knows even the McGillycuddys or McMurphys or whatever over there are 90% German.

Genuinely not certain what would qualify Tony Blair as Scottish Diaspora, other than being King of England.

OK, forget Blair, David William Donald Cameron then.

basically its the scotch

think nakh had sent me on a link before demonstrating the shite they made of anywhere they went

awful bunch

The fact that we are uniquely deranged and fanatical is neither here nor there.

Cameron bringing everyone down with him

Cameron has said, "On my mother's side of the family, her mother was a Llewellyn, so Welsh. I'm a real mixture of Scottish, Welsh, and English."[16] He has also referenced the German Jewish ancestry of one of his great-grandfathers, Arthur Levita, a descendant of the Yiddish author Elia Levita.[17][18]

read it and weep Corbyn!

Chuck in Callaghan & Healey for bad diaspora too

did you see diaspora on that one

xp Irish and scottish combos (celts picts ???) passed it back and forth, then with viking then english accomplices/force and then shoved it down the appalachians from the alleghennies to the blue ridge for 250 or 300 yrs. now here i am. bastards all ended up the same. but were nothing until they crashed it in ky. jmo.

enuf about us, i pick murdoch fwiw.

the scots were fine at building steamships and being engineers. they should have stuck to that.

They did:

https://media.scotchwhisky.com/images/media/7a0841a5a140537c20b3bfd9a80ecb10.jpg

"shields still holding cap'n, bit th' drain oan mah buckie is reaching critical point ...

Re: the building steamships thing, they made a hell of a lot of money building blockade-busting ships for the Confederacy.

Wernher von Broon

the B Empire more concerned with getting the cotton flowing back into the mills rather than the future of Yankee democracy or taking a stand against slavery.

Of course, if they hadn't then destryoing the Indian textile manufacturing industry would have been in vain!

http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/1.jpg

is this an example of the subtle + insidious alt-right indoctrination of young un's ppl are talking about in the other thread?

ay, how are parents supposed to understand these memes?

the mucky trainers really set off the whole outfit nicely

i've just moved to south lanarkshire btw, wonder how far away from my front door the shitty community centre this picture was taken in is

wait, does that girl have a fucking bow slung across her?

Only thing that could make this picture worse would be a sash and someone in blackface.

Why is she wearing mismatching shoes? Is it cos she was up to her knees in Fenian blood & was caught short?

the mucky trainers really set off the whole outfit nicely

― michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 07:58 (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fair comment on my u16 gaa team this

Why is she wearing mismatching shoes?

christ you're right, every fresh look at this reveals another layer of wtf

would only make sense if the left one was tan

Is that a green dress she's wearing? How did they miss that?

probably looks more orange on some monitor settings

aw jeez why did i have to read up on Tom Brady's political opinions?

Hmm I’m looking at the active posters itt, I’m sure there’s some valuable input but I don’t think I’ll get enough of a handle on this issue to vote until Fred weighs in

fpd for insensitivity re danish invasion

xp don’t encourage him, your jokes aren’t enough to cancel that out

Michael Flatley has caused me the most harm on a personal level.

pub fight?

If only.

xp this thread is very much relevant to your interests I feel

it's monday afternoon...and ive got a hot date with a real special guy pic.twitter.com/sObrFQQqZJ

— a a dril (@demarionunn) September 25, 2017

Chilling.

one of the great tweet runs of all time imo

Michael Flatley has caused me the most harm on a personal level.

― pomenitul, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 16:16 (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Needs years of training to do that kind of dancing, not Flatley's fault if you hurt yourself trying tbf.

Can't argue with that.

i've just moved to south lanarkshire btw, wonder how far away from my front door the shitty community centre this picture was taken in is

― michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, May 8, 2019 12:59 AM (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

God's own country

this is an impressive list of terrible people, well curated for the worst
really hard to choose!

are we voting for the worst person or the worst representation of people of Irish descent?

dev actually qualifies y/n

No

xp don’t make me tap the sign!

James Connolly would be the good diaspora example.

xps to LL - I leave that interpretation up to you, vote with your heart

Seán Mac Stíofáin the first provo chief of staff was a Londoner

He was, but Connolly the Hibee was better.

the true irish spirit in those circs is "i knew him when he had no arse to his trousers"

― deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:22 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is such a Scottish attitude too tbf.

Was gonna say, I’ve heard my granny use that phrase verbatim

My mum told me one of the Coyle family from the Tayto crisps empire wanted to adopt her when she was a young very badly cared for child, her one chance to escape the dangerous and terrible 50's Irish care system and a bad start in life and it passed her by for some unexplained reason. But thank god she met that loser ..etc..

god i was i was the scion of a crisps empire

when she tells me this classic for umpteenth time, while I'm doing eye-rolls it doesn't occur to her that i don't have the same enthusiasm as her for a timeline where she is happier and I don't exist!

I’m glad you exist but it’s a shame all the same, would have been nice to have had a contact who could sort me out with the Christmas box of real Tayto

t/s: the existence of ilxor dot com poster calzino vs free crisps

wait who would this contact have been

ilxor dot com poster crispzino

a timeline where a 70 odd year old Irish member of the Coyle family became an Ilxer after googling Daniel O'Donnell's hypnagogic phase, and finding the gateway drug ILM.

coylzino

the only good poster

t/s: the existence of ilxor dot com poster calzino vs free crisps

Taytos are the best crisps in the universe THE END as you were LG x

— Liam Gallagher (@liamgallagher) March 26, 2019

That is a surprisingly ornate tweet.

King cheese and onion are the best imo but I will always have a special place in my heart for the pub crisps!

Other - Esther McVey.

arguably not as bad as timothy

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

1 vote for Piers Morgan though?

Brogues gallery

have to say id question most of this list tbh

Murdoch's "Scottish" surely?

Certainly a lot more than he is Irish.

yeah thats the first one to jump out

morgan, not having, diaspora needs not to be so avowedly of the new nation- nb this isnt a hard and fast rule obv but it fuckin is when the new nation is tory

I maintain that Michael Flatley is the correct answer.

hes a sure qualifier at least

Pretty sure "Tory" is an Irish derivation tbf

key point remains

Well sure

tbh I didn't vote because every time I clicked on someone who wasn't Murdoch (mostly Brendan O'Neill tbh) my brain went "but obviously Murdoch is *worse*" but it felt weird picking Murdoch when I didn't even know he had anything to do with Ireland until this thread

anyway he doesn't come close to most entrants on this list but I just wanted to record somewhere that I get v confused when I see posts from former UKIP MEP Patrick O'Flynn on Twitter and think "why does this person with an Irish name have such UKIPpy takes on Brexit"

morgan, not having, diaspora needs not to be so avowedly of the new nation- nb this isnt a hard and fast rule obv but it fuckin is when the new nation is tory

morgan isnt diaspora

but not because he's a cunt

Seems a good moment to remind everyone I’m Irish. pic.twitter.com/Tb8Rl4gUYt

— Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) March 17, 2018

not sure murdoch has ever made claims of any connection so i'm not sure why anyone would preemptively claim him

Murdoch's an outstanding choice for a "worst member", but as for "Irish diaspora", not so much.

Definitely the worst member of the Irish-English-Scottish diaspora.

He is diaspora ffs, he is from the UK and has a dad from Ireland

Sorry that’s re Morgan not Murdoch!

"Elisabeth Murdoch was born in Melbourne on 8 February 1909, the third daughter of Marie Grace de Lancey (Forth) and Rupert Greene. Her grandfather, William Henry Greene, was an Irish railway engineer (later one of the three Commissioners of Victorian Railways) who emigrated to Australia and married Fanny, the fourth of the 10 daughters of George Govett.[1] Her mother's ancestors were Scottish and English; one of her maternal great-grandfathers was a lieutenant governor in the West Indies.[2] Elisabeth was educated at St Catherine's School in Toorak, and at Clyde School in Woodend.[3] She married Keith Murdoch, 23 years her senior, in 1928 and inherited the bulk of his fortune when he died in 1952."

The obvious question is does being an engineer for an Irish railway make you Irish, especially if your surname is Greene?

The next obvious question would be, does having just one maternal great-grandparent make you part of the Irish diaspora?

Only if you've read Ulysses in its entirety.

late write-in for joyce tbrr

The obvious question is does being an engineer for an Irish railway make you Irish, especially if your surname is Greene?

― A is for (Aimless), Friday, May 31, 2019 11:32 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark

greene is an irish surname (can also be an english one, but that's fairly common)

part of my family are harleys, also a name that can be english, but they're irish catholics from donegal. some anglicization going on, as with greene I'm sure

grian (ag spalpadh)

I'm an O'Dowd with a dropped O, which was as far as my dad's anglicisation went, probably because despite him having an impressive skill set/experience in building and as a fitter, he wouldn't have stood a chance in the jobs market against someone without an O in front of their name in 60's/70's England.

#beannaithe i wasn't included in this poll

late write-in for joyce tbrr

― mark s, Friday, May 31, 2019 3:50 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fp btw

me too

If I did this again I’d leave out Murdoch and put in Ed Sheeran

all these ruses to protect brendan

he must be ok really cos he's loosely connected with ilm darlings stereolab.

ilm is spiked i will never delet

Claire Fox dodged a bullet here.

Yeah there’s loads of people I could have included here - she still wouldn’t have won though

I've only just found out that Paul "Guido Fawkes" Staines belongs on this list!

Indeed, worthy omission. He lives there I think.

his mum from a w/c Dublin background his dad an Indian immigrant and a sometime member of the Fabian Society. It was obv all the father's fault imo!

Interesting how many hideous right wing wankers in the UK have Irish (Catholic) ancestry, the Living Marxism/Spiked crew is riddled with them.

xp is his dad actually Indian cos he’s described as “anglo-Indian” and his name sounds British

(Just to be on the safe side I checked Dominic McKenzie Cummings - belongs in the Scottish wanker camp).

xp

aye possibly a lot more of the British Raj in him than Indian

Just read this thread back and it was some pretty funny work all round

Margaret Hilda Roberts was born on 13 October 1925, in Grantham, Lincolnshire.[5] Her parents were Alfred Roberts (1892–1970), from Northamptonshire, and Beatrice Ethel Stephenson (1888–1960), from Lincolnshire.[5][6] Her father's maternal grandmother, Catherine Sullivan, was born in County Kerry, Ireland.[7]

Sorry that’s too far back for her to count

Yeah not hanging this one on us

Anyway- kerry

Yeah not surprising Kerry

Lol

tbf Kerry is a very beautiful place but granted some or perhaps even quite a lot of the people are not reet!

I can remember walking past a Tralee Sinn Fein building in the 80's that had posters of Thatcher in a noose with a wanted: dead or alive banner plastered all over the windows. If only they knew she was one of their own!

Sorry that’s too far back for her to count

It's actually as far as back as Murdoch's ancestry I think?

The only ones that count for me are first and second generation candidates, all that ancestry.com nonsense doesn't mean that much at all. But this does conveniently segue with my own bullshit about determinedly not being English despite living here since 1973!

I simply renounce any nation that would have me as a member

Jimmy Carr should have in this poll.

even his Irish dad seems to think he's a twat. He wrote in his book that he moved from Limerick to Slough. His dad wasn't impressed with his bad Irish jokes and disparaging comments about Limerick and also he corrected that they in fact moved from Limerick to South Kensington, which is not Slough.

Yes it seems they had a fallout and he hasn't spoken to his dad in years - much to the the relief of the father I assume.

I hate our diaspora SO much. Obscuring actual discrimination in favour of sharing white suprematist talking points, couldn’t be me

I keep seeing these takes about Irish people “not counting” as white in U.S. history and honestly, there is nothing historical about such a claim. The Irish were included in the ‘white’ column of every colonial census going back to Stapleton’s Leeward Islands survey in the 1670s. pic.twitter.com/IViHErffA0

— Liam Hogan (@Limerick1914) May 10, 2023

Tom Brady?

He got two votes in the original poll

Yeah, I saw that, I found it surprising. Compared to most of the other people on the list, he's pretty innocuous.

Morgan McSweeney

... actually he isn't diaspora he's just a cunt.

Otm on both counts

yeah this fucker actually grew up in Ireland and he's a fucking cunt.

Sue Gray and Pat McFadden are diaspora scum though

McFadden's parents are from Falcarragh, I know quite a few people in Paisley/Glasgow with relatives from around there.

Watched an old episode of Batman: The Animated Series. A character surprised by the Joker says "great scott!" and the Joker replies "actually I'm Irish".

A man who finds the thought of crime to be “great craic”

Prompted me to try and discover where "Great Scott!" comes from. Results inconclusive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Scott

in other news and unrelatedly it was in a wikipedia spiral today that i found out that the scott in kristin scott thomas is "of the antarctic'

ORNALDO BLOOMPS FOR IRISH PRESIDETN

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2025/0901/1531180-bloom-embraces-irish-roots-with-passport-application/