Tenet (dir. Christopher Nolan, 2020)

Per Deadline:

It also has added Michael Caine, Dunkirk‘s Kenneth Branagh, Dimple Kapadia, Aaron Taylor-Johnson and Clémence Poésy to and ensemble cast topped by John David Washington along with Robert Pattinson and Elizabeth Debicki.

The film, Nolan’s first feature since 2017’s Oscar-nominated Dunkirk, is being described as an action epic evolving around the world of international espionage. He wrote the original screenplay and shooting spanning seven countries is now underway. The Tenet team includes Dunkirk‘s director of photography Hoyte van Hoytema (shooting in a mix of Imax and 70mm)

Which all seems rather involved for a biopic about Neil Tennant.

Precept

Postulation

Principle

I can think of at least one film critic who will be darning and laundering his finest worn out wanking socks at the mere sight of new nolesy wolesy thread.

gonna go out on a limb here and suggest this will be visually accomplished but emotionally inert

Yay!!!!

x-post: Hey!!! :(

I meant P Bradshaw obv :p

NOLAN. STOP WRITING YOUR OWN SCREENPLAYS. U R BAD AT IT.

Tent?

I'll bet it's significant that the title is a palindrome. Sadly.

What if at the midpoint of the movie it plays out in reverse for the remainder of its runtime, wouldn't that be something?

What if you get to the title screen and then out of nowhere an errant 'H' drops from the top of the frame into the title and before you know what happened you realize you're watching a remake.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/Netposter1995.jpg

It could be a decent and timely film ala Syriana if it really focuses on the guy who approved the CIA's rendition and secret interrogations/torture program.

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2014/12/10/19/web-cia-1-getty.jpg

What if at the midpoint of the movie it plays out in reverse for the remainder of its runtime, wouldn't that be something?

― 5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:15 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Christopher Nolan's Wonder Showzen

looool @ ThENET

say what you like about the tenets of Nolanism...

Score by Ludwig Göransson

Is Hans Zimmer doing ok?

he is calm and composing as he always does iirc

things in every chuck nolan movie ever

1. oscar-winning actress playing a character with no motivation, whose sole purpose is to deliver exposition
2. The message of the movie is based on a proverb that the audience is familiar with. It is stated out loud by the main character, but is not actually supported by the internal logic of the film.

50/50 chance of a dead wife somewhere in there

being real here though, what a monumental, all-time hack this man is

It's frustrating because it's largely his own fault. He'd likely be respected as a talented architect if he didn't simultaneously insist on demonstrating his inept construction skills. Sure, those buildings look pretty at first but they collapse every single time, mah dude.

Also galaxy brain conservative in his politics. I still haven't gotten over Batman as George W Bush wiretapping the entire city to stop The Concept of Terrorism embodied as the Joker.

Speaking of, I would like to wiretap multiplex ticket windows prior to the release of this film so that we can capture all of the variations of the title as uttered by movie patrons who may be less than familiar with the word.

We have thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdOM0x0XDMo

So miniaturized time reversal pools or something.

I appreciate his general inclination of making small + intimate films but it's refreshing to see him branch out and go a little more high-concept for a change.

gonna go out on a limb here and suggest this will be visually accomplished but emotionally inert

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while watching this christopher nolan movie i'm going to take nothing for i see for granted because it looks like things will not always be... exactly what they seem...

It's like Memento except the twist is (get this) the story moves forwards instead of backwards.

tfw a character fingers a bullet hole in a window & asks what happened here, and his partner says what happened hasn’t happened yet pic.twitter.com/TH6AL9Riv7

— Woke Fartbutt (@falsebinary) December 19, 2019

damn he's still got it

https://media.giphy.com/media/rGckn7bN5uIV2/giphy.gif

This reminds me of when I had to keep telling management in a draft PPM that the word is not "tenant."

The movie will be shit, of course.

I believe it's spelled 'shint'.

Tenet as the test of whether movie theaters can open this year.

The studio is pressing ahead with release plans for “Tenet,” the mysterious and much-anticipated new movie from “Inception” director and proven moneymaker Christopher Nolan. Executives are making plans to open the movie widely across the United States as scheduled on July 17 amid the ongoing spread of the coronavirus. They’re going through all the paces of a big summer release, despite many reasons a successful rollout may not be remotely possible.

Second trailer premiering tonight on...Fortnite.

This reminds me how when our company went out for financing, I kept having to correct "tenant" to "tenet" in all our materials

"proven moneymaker Christopher Nolan"

that would be about as generous an epitaph as he ever deserved tbf

https://i.redd.it/67ba11jo8wk01.jpg

Chris also doesn’t allow chairs. I worked with him twice. He doesn’t allow chairs, and his reasoning is, if you have chairs, people will sit, and if they’re sitting, they’re not working.

Inside the movie set of a talentless, peevish tory-cunt schoolmaster! Thing is I refuse sit down for any of his his movies, because not only do they feel like work - they are fucking irredeemable shite.

I'm not even averse to the idea of real directors treating precious actors like shit, but that loathsome mediocrity doing it just reminds me of a boss I used to have who made his office staff lock their smartphones in a cupboard during working hours. He can't get away with it because he makes garbage movies.

"If you've got time to lean, you've time to clean" - Chris Nolan

not to mention the unlawful and cruel abelism/ageism of such a rule. I hope they were all hocking in his coffee every day.

Preschool teacher: “Today we are going to play musical chairs”

Christopher Nolan: pic.twitter.com/Fc1sW9tAMY

— Lunwi (@Lunwi88) June 29, 2020

Someone suggested to me that this is probably untrue and he does have a new product to plug that they are hoping will fill up some Cinemas for lovers of noisy garbage and sitting on seats whilst you cop The Rona!

Yes, "Come see this new movie - the director's a huge fucking asshole" is a time-tested marketing strategy. Seems likely to have the same marketing power as when the DVD case for some straight-to-video no-stars garbage pile says "From the Producers of [HIT MOVIE LOTS OF PEOPLE LIKED]".

Occam's Razor would suggest that a prominent movie director is an asshole who is terrible to the people who work for him

There is no way this is true. Unions alone, etc. But there is something hilarious about the notion. I can imagine all his stars working rest into their scenes. "You know, Chris, I really think my character would be sitting in this shot." "Hey, Chris, what if my character smoked, but was also narcoleptic?"

Nolan is, on the other hand, one of those directors who insists on wearing a suit. (Others I can think of are, of all people, Sam Raimi and Paul Feig; Feig has claimed a good suit means you can always find a place to use the bathroom). It's an interesting strategy. A lot of directors seem to go the other way, kind of scraggly, with beards. I have a friend who is a professor who is clean shaven during the breaks, but grows a beard for class, because it makes him look older and gets him more respect. But a director wearing a suit ... it scans as affectation, which might counterintuitively get you less respect. Now, a chicken suit, that might work, at least once. It's so silly it could diffuse tension, which might make up for Nolan not letting people sit.

Paul Verhoeven apparently filmed a few scenes in his birthday suit.

By the way, I really can't imagine them not moving this release date again, at least in the US. How or have movie theaters been working everywhere else?

IIRC that was out of a particularly Euro conception of "solidarity" when shooting those co-ed locker room sequences eg Starship Troopers, Robocop etc. Probably wouldn't fly today, mind... xp

There is no way this is true.

for some reason I am inclined to believe Anne Hathaway in these matters

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbuCNCmVAAAUSEF.jpg

That seems more plausible.

IIRC that was out of a particularly Euro conception of "solidarity" when shooting those co-ed locker room sequences eg Starship Troopers, Robocop etc.

Sure, Jan (de Bont).

My hot take is that treating employees this way is unacceptable even when it results in films I like and thinking otherwise is Tory

The first thing it reminded me of was this:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a30271308/sloped-toilet-design-productivity/

Others I can think of are, of all people, Sam Raimi and Paul Feig

Wes Anderson is a big suit guy too.

If he really wanted to treat his employees badly he could make them watch his movies.

if you take the suit off nolan he looks like a kind of bloaty football hooligan

#Tenet Review: Christopher Nolan’s Long-Anticipated Time Caper Is a Humorless Disappointment https://t.co/wE01VPA5Gk pic.twitter.com/1w3QX1gOhT

— IndieWire (@IndieWire) August 21, 2020

u loves to see it, not the tedious movie of course.

in this case do read the replies, some hilarious butthurt in there.

I can't bring myself to enjoy the mornings of the Empire magazine cineaste crowd

or moanings even

lots of "humorless" movies are a+. But Nolan is also tedious and bad with humourless. So many people who have not even seen his latest piece of shite seem determined to defend it. Such unswerving loyalty for terrible brands is what keeps the wheels turning I guess.

Hey, have you seen our president/your PM lately?

living in the version of Inception where you take a handful of co-dydramols and sleep all day, cos dreaming is better watching Nolan movies or living in neo-fascist elective dictatorships!

If anything, a lot of Nolan movies are themselves kind of like neo-fascist dreams.

how does he maintain such darkness for over a decade, without doing even one half decent movie and still keep having big hits? Got to give it him he's a top-notch conman!

aren't all Nolan films humorless and disappointing

Not if your name is P Badshaw or Fred, who get their silk glove out for a new Nolan movie!

he's the hot topic of movie maker guys

every one of his movies feels like it was cooked up in a '90s mall, in the shared break room of the national guard recruiting office, a 'brain games' pretentious toy store, and one of those places that sells manufactured movie memorabilia ('a copy of the shooting script from the second-to-last episode of M*A*S*H)

supposedly Nolan was in line to take a percentage of movie ticket sales and to that I say l o fucking l

Hey, have you seen our president/your PM lately?

Is Boris actually inspiring or maintaining any stans in his current, wholly nominal, role?

that johnson, stan in full

https://knightayton.co.uk/media/k2/items/cache/e6b24df417ad7ceb7a489b8a35382a8c_L.jpg

the basic tenets from the book of being a being a complete cunt says that if you are a complete cunt then you should neither procreate, making more lousy rich brat kids nor make fucking shit movies and fuck off and die instead

I will cop to still kinda liking a couple Nolan movies, but I can't fathom getting excited about a new one in 2020.

I'll cop to not completely disliking The Prestige at the time, but hated it when I re-watched it and had developed a contemptuous familiarity of that stillborn shit he does over and over again ad nauseam to diminishing returns.

lol.. bowie as Tesla was pretty funny tbf!

the fact that a few critics actually hate this one makes me think it might end up being partly interesting. probably not though

lads we can all make our own threads to talk about wanking if that's what you need

I love that a complete fucking garbage movie is being marketed as the "get back to the cineplexes and die of the rona to help us" version of "eat out to help out". good luck Nolan you gallant auteur.

this is quite possibly the topic I agree with calzino the most about

I'd make the case that all of his movies are worth watching, even if most are hanging on for dear life, but few are worth watching more than once.

TDKR is not worth watching

Yeah, if you're going to skip one, no one would miss that at all. Talk about epitomizing "humorless disappointment," though tbf, Tom Hardy probably had some fun with that.

The Guardian gave it two stars and called it a dud. It wasn't Peter Bradshaw though, who has mostly good opinions imo, in spite of the fact that he tells the plot too much. I almost always agree with him. Catherine Shoard is good as well, so is Benjamin Lee. Obv it would be good to hear Gilbert Adair's take but he's deed. Thankfully we don't have to hear Phillip French telling us the plot in great detail since he is also deed.

I'm not glad that Phillip French is deed, obv, but I am glad to not hear any opinion of his.

Badshaw gave 5 stars to Dunkirk, need i say any more?

he has given 4/5 stars to so much garbage now his cred is shot. And he quoted his generosity to such "auteurs" as gaspar noo! and aranwrongsky as evidence of him supporting challenging avant-garde cinema, he's a clueless fucking charlie!

Dunkirk was the only Nolan movie I've kind of liked, but only after seeing it a second time and watching it with a friend who was really into it

it's the biggest load of brit propaganda bollox since the royal edition of it's a knockout!

or since the rona spreading street parties of middle-class suburbs of leafy ingerland

:)

and it fails on basic level of not representing the scale of what actually happened at Dunkirk, it's absolute cack on every level.

I liked Aronofsky's earliest films, Pi and Requiem for a Dream. I hated Black Swan but was fascinated by mother! and still not sure what to think about it

aronofsky is way more entertainingly neurotic than nolan

I loved Pi at the time as well, but probably needed my head looking at!

Dunkirk was definitely only 3.5/5 not 5/5.

not sure why but seeing mother! reminded me of the two Emir Kusturica films I watched a while ago

a surreal story as parable, told with an insouciance that was kind of captivating

at least aranofsky embraces his wrongness and goes with it I suppose, whatever you think about him, it isn't as stultifyingly tedious and sterile as everything with the nolan touch.

There are 5-6 minutes of Joe Wright's Atonement adaptation at Dunkirk that are better, cinematically, than Nolan's but I wonder if Nolan's is more true. Both films are pretty good as films.

I honestly don't give a shit about either film, so I don't know why I'm even talking about it. Rewind and forget.

yeah well that does capture the scale of the event and it utilises cgi to do it, but it still looks better than 200 ppl on a beach with Branagh and some cunt pissing about with a remote control spitfire.

it isn't much cop either tbf

but at least it has some heated saucy dialogue that you soon forget as the movie bores you death!

will watch Tenet at home when it's convenient

don't remember Atonement the movie although I loved the book.

Dunkirk had no interesting dialogue. I can’t defend it but at least it was more appealing than the The Dark Knight. I couldn't get through that film, I tried twice. The first time after an hour or so I left the theater and waited outside on the curb until the friends I was watching it with had finished it. I don't ever remember feeling that way about another film.

Inception was almost as bad, I watched it in a theater with a friend who I really like and respect. I didn't want to make a scene but had to grit my teeth through the whole thing until the end

that Rick and Morty ep that takes the piss is hilarious. Inception is probably the worst movie I have seen in my entire lifetime.

and I say this as someone who once took my kid to an autism friendly showing of John Carter at 10 am on some cursed Sunday

xpost lucky you!

3/5 for Dunkirk feels about right. The kid wandering round the beaches while ordered lines of tommies waited to get bombed to shit was pretty good in a cut-rate Come And See sort of way, tho the idea of war as purgatory was kinda undercut by the rest of the movie being about how heroism is possible in war. I instinctively reject that premise which is why the movie as whole didn't work on me, but even so its my 2nd favourite Nolan after Interstellar, which is a terrific dumb-2001 let down by a clunky deus ex machina of an ending.

The only kinds of heroism possible in war are the same kinds possible without a war. A war is just the irrelevant envelope in which the heroism is contained.

— Aimless Marley

Free yourself from Tenet slavery.

Christopher Nolan is that rare beast: an art house auteur making intellectually ambitious blockbuster movies that can leave your pulse racing and your head spinning.

translation: this turkey is like a $200m Shane Carruth movie with added car crashes and is boring as fuck but I'm contractually obliged not to say that.

Just realized this is his 11th feature, and I've seen all but the first 1 and last 1, and 1 1 is the first row of Pascal's triangle (after the 0th). Or, if you line up his movies along the 10th row, this is the only point in his career at which the Batman movies will be symmetrically distributed. And BATMAN backwards is TENET. Makes you think.

Batman Tenet
https://www.amazon.in/images/I/81v9zP%2Bj8tL.jpg

That kid will also one day play Batman.

Origin story right there. "Batman Emerges."

Overlong, noisy, full of poe-faced delivery of portentous dialogue, needlessly convoluted plot threads, unearned sense of gravitas that verges on the unintentionally hilarious and a script that isn't even vaguely as clever as it seems to think it is

this review quote sounds like a very generous summary of all his movies to me.

I liked Jessica Kiang's review in the NYT:

"But Nolan is, by several exploding football fields, the foremost auteur of the “intellectacle,” which combines popcorn-dropping visual ingenuity with all the sedate satisfactions of a medium-grade Sudoku. Within the context of this self-created brand of brainiac entertainment, “Tenet” meets all expectations, except the expectation that it will exceed them. Forgive the circularity of this argument: it’s a side effect of watching the defiantly circular “Tenet.”"

Meeting all expectations but not exceeding them is just a fancy way of saying ... fine.

just as nolan movies are fancy ways of saying jack shit, yes.

"medium-grade Sudoku" more like shoddy [sic] cackuro for beginners or pound shop word-search books with everything already filled in for you.

I remember Memento as being genuinely, darkly funny. Everything else he's done is dreary po-faced nonsense.

I remember Memento as being genuinely, darkly funny.

How old were you when you saw it?

Origin story right there. "Batman Emerges."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batkid_Begins

wikipedia has a page titled "Cinematic style of Christopher Nolan"

it should be blank imo

It feels as if people's capacity for enjoying what is essentially eye-rollingly silly bollocks has pretty much evaporated in the Covid era.

I think it was more Guy Pearce's performance than the script, tbf.

I rewatched Memento in lockdown and enjoyed it; haven't seen anything else of his bar two of the Batmen, which were terrible.

I liked The Prestige and would be willing to risk re-watching it. The Batman movies were shit because, well, they're Batman movies and I'm no longer 14.

you know what else I liked when I was 14? Stage magic

It feels as if people's capacity for enjoying what is essentially eye-rollingly silly bollocks has pretty much evaporated in the Covid era.

I think actually people probably want more eye-rollingly silly bollocks. What people don't want, speaking for people here, is stuff that is so po-faced and serious that the only reaction is to treat it as eye-rollingly silly bollocks. But yeah, in the best of times there are so, so few comedies worth a shit, let alone actually funny, and now more than ever ...

best thing about memento is ice queen Carrie-Anne Moss

We watched Memento a couple of months ago, holds up. It's actually clever and fun and modestly profound rather than BIG LOUD IDEAS IN YOU FACE! The Prestige I bet would hold up, too, because it actually (as I remember it) takes its eye-rollingly silly bollocks seriously in a good way. Which is to say, more inward than outward. There's nothing clever about big explosions.

there's a free clickbait piece for anyone who notices that the first nolan movie to get even a little critical pushback is the one with a black lead

Tenet's current RT score (80) is higher than godawful Interstellar (72)

RT scores tend to drop as more reviews get added so we'll see but I'm expecting it to dip below that

Tenet score will go down as more people see it over time and post things like "this is literally the worst movie I have ever seen."

"Interstellar worst movie I have ever seen"
About 1,860,000 results (0.65 seconds)

Tenet is the worst movie I've ever seen.

Do you think he just started this project with a list of palindromes and took off from there?

MARTIN DONOVAN

Have you heard of "A Man, A Plan, A Canal, Panama"?

THE PROTAGONIST
(intrigued)
Tell me more.

The Batman movies were shit because, well, they're Batman movies and I'm no longer 14.

The Batman movies were shit because, well, they're Batman movies and I'm no longer 14.

Blue Velvet and Rope are shit because I'm no longer 14

I will watch this — I’m easily entertained by the spy genre and expect to enjoy this, though how much remains an open question. I’m holding off on reading reviews. I had high expectations for Dunkirk — Christopher Nolan’s war realism was oddly underwhelming for me. The film felt vague. I had a horrible seat in the back side of the theatre though.

Oddly my favourite film of his is Interstellar. Thinking back on it I am left with the impression of the climax and the feelings of love, time, and finiteness. He was able to convey something there that overcame whatever shortcomings in plot, dialogue, etc., that I no longer remember and don’t really matter in light of what the film was able to convey visually and emotionally.

Inception was fun for its novelty but I have no design to watch it again. And you can only love a film about a
Superhero so much, not to mention the questionable politics already mentioned in a comment above.

So yeah — Interstellar and the idea that love cannot escape time.

This recent Patrick H. Willems video goes into Nolan's bland visual style.
https://youtu.be/v92uAesOimQ?t=197
skip the skits, they're lame

this video goes into nolan's increasing bombast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGdwy5sYmKw

But didn't Interstellar say love CAN escape time, which was part of its wishywashy Hollywood blarghness?

I listened to four students today (all dudes) praising him.

He's our Kubrick, which means I say to hell with him.

Interstellar was great if you like shit

I like more Nolan than most ppl here tho so i'll see my way out

you should be permitted to throw solid wood chalk-dusters at your students for talking such shite, Alf!

"He's our Kubrick" I guess you're being facetious

sorry am slow at this

He's our Kubrick, which means I say to hell with him.

Kubrick was actually funny on occasion

Bale's Aristocrats joke was hilarious fuiud

David Lynch, Wong Kar-wai, Agnès Varda, Apitchatpong Weerasethakul, Pedro Costa, Béla Tarr, Abbas Kiarostami, Nuri Bilge Ceylan, Lucretia Martel, Claire Denis, Terrence Malick, Jia Zhangke, Tsai Ming-liang, Kelly Reichardt, Asghar Farhadi, Hayao Miyaziki, Ang Lee

our Kubrick is among these as well as others

wow marvel wave 4 is gonna be wild

Dan uhh I suspect you are taking this thread too literal

ok can't read you guys

if you read the Inception thread, it'll give more insight. there was of course nuance to many of the opinions expressed, but the overwhelming consensus of Nolan was "he should be killed"

Regardless, Kubrick and Nolan don't belong in the same conversation

unless he's overseeing a piss-yellow "unmastering" of 2001: A Space Odyssey of course

ringfencing kubrick is what gave us nolan sorry if this offends

(also snyder)

yeah but Snydolant didn't ever make The Killing, Paths of Glory, Barry Lyndon or Dr Strangelove!

kubrick made them iirc

all of them much closer to 9/10 rather than zero point zero recurring.... not saying he deserves deification, just that he was actually pretty bloody good at this old film-making game!

the way SK gets discussed has created a bad space for bad ppl to congregate and make bad films in

("bad" = "bad not good" obv but i wanted my claim on just one line)

Ok but that doesn't make Kubrick the equivalent of Nolan

sometimes you have to bend the stick

I guess the cult of nolan and the cult of Kubrick have a bit more equivalence

Bradshaw five-star the final nail in the coffin for this one

Bonzo Badshaw with his five-star Nolan reviews - what a wazzock!

good idea for a new Viz character, he follows Nolan about, heaping superlatives on everything he does.

I'm looking forward to watching this. Not going to a theater, though!

the review we've been waiting for

Big Movie. Big Screen. Loved it. pic.twitter.com/DrAY5tRg5P

— Tom Cruise (@TomCruise) August 25, 2020

always good to get the old thetan levels recharged and wandering about London in character!

I have this egg shaped orb that belonged to an ancient alien race that i throw at cinema screens when Nolan movies are playing, different strokes and all that.

the imdb plot synopsis of this movie sounds like an onion parody of a christopher nolan movie:

Armed with only one word, Tenet, and fighting for the survival of the entire world, a Protagonist journeys through a twilight world of international espionage on a mission that will unfold in something beyond real time.

you're telling me - it's 150 minutes long!

lol!

I recommend skimming the wikipedia synopsis if you would like to remove any remaining curiosity you may have

i want to know The Protagonist's pronouns

According to a magazine ad I glimpsed on the bus that I assume was for this, it is like James Bond... on acid

ie extremely bad not good and goes on forever - checks out tbh

I wonder if, in America at least, WB is targeting conservatives with their advertising or are trying to, since it would seem to me they're more likely to "brave" a movie theater.

would watch this if everyone throughout the movie referred to the protagonist as such, like "your usual table, Mr. Protagonist?", "hey, it's that pesky protagonist - get him!", etc

makes it easy for him to identify the baddies if they're all named An Antagonist tbf

Worked for Neal Stephenson

Andy Anonymous

like how the bad guy in Inception was named Mal? how about Bane?

i've noticed that wiki articles love using the word "tritagonist" recently. was it on some word-a-day calendar?

or the villain in Interstellar being Mann all along

Saw it last night, it's the most Nolan-y of his movies yet. Ridiculous plot, huge spectacles, possibly even blander characters than Inception. The exposition comes fast and is buried in the sound mix but the story is pretty incomprehensible anyway. Loved Göransson's score, and I'm happy it's prioritized over dialogue. Enjoyed it overall. Nolan haters will really hate it, water is wet

remembering Inception, "the exposition comes fast and is buried in the sound mix" is not encouraging to me

which prestige actress is exposition girl in this one?

Aaron Taylor-Johnson is exposition girl this time

There was a lot of exposition in Inception but the movie slowed down to deliver it. In this, the exposition happens during action scenes or rapidly cut conversations to keep the energy high, almost as if even Nolan doesn't want you to think about it too much (probably not true)

Inception's "buried in the sound mix" completely overbearing soundtrack made me so angry. I don't want to experience that again

like how the bad guy in Inception was named Mal? how about Bane?

Bane comes from the febrile mind of Chuck Dixon, twenty years earlier tbf

(I just learnt yesterday that he was in one of the Schumacher Batflicks)

Wow, Jeep Swenson (the Schumacher Bane) died a couple months after B & R came out in the summer of '97.

saw this.

fucking sucked dick

keep in mind I liked Inception. this was like the worst parts of Interstellar for 2 and a half hours.

it's rapid fire exposition and little else.

possibly even blander characters than Inception

what characters?

(I also liked all of the NOlan Batmen and Dunkirk, so I'm not the usual Nolan hater the board is, either....)

the buried in the sound mix is infuriating. some of the dialogue wasn't even audible over the sound!

Surprised you found it that much worse than the others. I thought it was about as good as his last couple movies, not as good as The Prestige or Inception. The inaudible dialogue didn't bother me much, as the visuals were enough. If anything, I liked that there wasn't a lot of focus on dialogue this time around - he's not very good at writing it and the concept doesn't even make sense with all the explanation

eventually I stopped listening and realized I'd figured out what was happening anyway so I wondered why they just couldn't let it breathe for a moment.

that said, I liked the first half hour.

letting it breath seems to be the ultimate problem with his films

*not letting it breathe

yes letting them breathe was a mistake

Hard to disagree with most of the comments here but I did think Robert Pattinson was great and liked the fact that his time inverting international super spy character was simply called “Neil”. Also the wardrobe choices were A+++. I probably was just glad to be in a cinema eating popcorn again.

inaudible dialogue is absolutely infuriating to me, and movies have just been getting worse and worse with that; and too often it carries over to the digital/dvd/streaming versions as well. I have two fucking speakers on my TV. I don't have a 'home theater' and would rather not have one. Please let me hear what people are saying.

Kenneth Branagh is the worst offender.

Every angry line a throaty whisper

It was nice to be in a theater. There was nobody within 100 feet of me and i stayed masked the whole time (as did the nearest person).

Honestly, there is little better than seeing a movie in a near-empty theatre, just as there is little worse than seeing a movie in a packed theatre. Even pre-covid. The sound and smell of people eating, the cellphones, the talking, the people getting up and down ...

Though now that I think of it, watching movies at home does do a pretty good job approximating the theatrical experience.

I used to have a Cinemark exactly 7 minutes from my house that was basically a ghost town during the week. my bit of zen back then was finding a movie to go to solo and enjoying having a theater mostly to myself.

packed theatres are cool for broad comedies and horror but yeah anything else is pretty much death. the worst is anything vaguely intellectual/arty because you not only have to deal with the chewing but also people either pontificating out loud or over-laughing at the "clever" bits

Packed theatres are only cool for air conditioning.

when i used to give blood on a regular basis my fav move was to do it early on a weekday and then take the free coffee and cookie and woozily enjoy a 11:30am movie in an empty theater

a lot of movies are greatly improved when you're down a pint of blood

It's only fitting because most of them do suck.

I'm almost ready mentally to return to a theater because during normal times I went solo most mornings before 10:30 a.m. when I had the damn theatre to myself.

The press people have sounded out my film critics group about keeping the general public out of screenings. There are only a couple of us locally anyway, and pre-COVID we scattered around the room.

I probably was just glad to be in a cinema eating popcorn again.

This contributed a nonzero amount to my enjoyment of Tenet. Between COVID and having a baby last year, I hadn't been to the theater in more than a year and a half

Uhh yeah I saw it tonight cause I guess I felt reckless

I didn’t hate it exactly but I also felt that I would have enjoyed downloading the soundtrack while playing any random James Bond movie in reverse more than this movie, esp as it dragged on and got more tedious

Also the reviews weren’t lying about Elizabeth Debicki’s role being paper thin, I don’t go to Nolan movies for fleshed out female characters but yikes

Armed with only one word, Tenet

secret pokemon film

the climax of the film is 45 minutes of John David Washington just walking up to random people on the street and barking "Tenet" at them to see if they're spy people

so can anyone who's seen it go and listen to the Travis Scott song on the soundtrack and confirm that it "unlocks" the movie or whatever as Nolan claimed

I'll take a pass on listening to Travis $cott, i do not feel compelled to unlock this movie

The song played over the credits but I just went to check out the lyrics, which contain a couple references to the events in the movie. Movie unlocked!

all because Nolan has equity in Genius Media Group

Saw this last Sunday. Best theater in Baltimore miraculously reopened despite the rest of the city remaining closed (they're right on the city/county line, with multiplexes opening up a mile away, so The Senator was allowed to open).

800 cap theater normally, now 25 max.

Felt totally safe and comfortable, wore mask whole time, main theater is gigantic

Movie was SOO fucking stupid but it was big and loud and that was enough for me rn. Felt great to be back in a theater

cf.

Sound mix is fine—it’s the movie that’s incoherent! hey now pic.twitter.com/a6scjx2ZAS

— Nicky Smith (@nickyotissmith) September 6, 2020

were concessions being sold flappy?

concessions

You mean besides paying money to see a dumb movie in the middle of a pandemic?

they were showing this in IMAX last night for $10 and i still couldn't get myself to go

did you think the last hour of Interstellar was on par with Citizen Kane? if so, this flick is for u

i was hoping for a cross between casino royale (2006) and matrix reloaded

is that too much to ask

both of those movies are impotent tbr

uh ... ok

joeks

phew!

that’s a good one for the post / username thread 8======D

Rip: They were, just popcorn and soda and candy. They had every other row blocked off and people separated themselves well. Masks required "unless eating in seat." Super ad-hoc. I went with my mom (she was really dying to go back to the movies, I could've waited but glad I didn't), and we told each other if the situation looked really dire--people misbehaving, coughing, huge crowds--we'd turn around. It was fine. Everyone was on their best behavior and again, this place seats 800 people normally.

Josh: I'm sure you've made equally "dangerous" concessions in the last 6 months. I love my mom.

and I would've gone to sit with her in the Senator if they played two hours of unexposed film

hey hey hey sit down and take yr COVID shaming like a man >:-(

I was just making a concession joke and making fun of the movie. No offense intended.

None taken 😘 Sorry for jumping to concessions [ ;) ]

https://deadline.com/2020/09/tenet-broken-hearts-gallery-warner-bros-sony-weekend-box-office-1234575805

In case the link doesn't work, suspicions are the movie only made 12 million last weekend.

lol hope he goes bust!

The article basically says, if not literally, chin up, Warner Brothers, you are going to lose money on this, but you will recoup on something else in the future. Also observes that by obscuring and misleading to make the box office look bigger, but still low, then the big drop from weekend one to weekend two will look even worse, rather than just holding steady at a low number.

What does the box office even mean during COVID?

I literally fell asleep in this movie, early in the third act.

But my review from what I did see is: He introduces a really intriguing idea concerning time travel, with an element, or twist, that you may have never considered, and you're thinking 'okay, this could be fun,' and then proceeds to make the worst and most boring movie possible around that idea.

DAMN

lol

that's the Nolan approach in a nutshell yeah

haha I was laughing at the $12mil box office, but believe me Rip is OTMFM.... movie starts out fairly strong--I like the symphony sequence a lot, and it's cool to be just plunged into the thing--but yeah, as Rip said, it just goes NOWHERE.

This won't hurt Nolan's career tho, in a way I think the pandemic saved him, the box office for this will always have an asterisk next to it. I think if this movie came out in 2019 for example, he would've been eaten alive. his New Jersey maybe? Who knows. it would've made a ton of money obviously but this thing is not fucking Inception, which was very good! or Interstellar, also very good! it's just fucking BORING LOOKING and GOES NOWHERE!!!

Saved by the virus the man is!!

"but this thing is not fucking Inception, which was very good! or Interstellar, also very good!"

it's worse than that he's dead jim!

My 2014 comment about Interstellar:

in the future, space travelers will put their kids into stasis and then revive them when they return, so they won't miss out on attending all their ball games. kids will put their pets into stasis and revive them months later, just as a joke to confuse them. housewives will put leftovers into stasis instead of a refrigerator. laid off workers will be put in stasis to save on unemployment benefits. the possibilities are endless!

rip van wanko otm

Interstellar may not have made sense, but I thought it looked AWESOME with many striking and memorable images (the fucking bookcase! the dust on the desks...), and I got swept up in it. and I watched it at home! Inception with a packed summertime crowd was so much fun. I haven't seen it since then but those were two really fun action movies. I don't care if he's a dilettante! Brits get SO worked up over Nolan.

I've got to admit, I do like the idea of event movies that aren't just piggybacking on existing properties. And honestly even when Nolan *did* do that with the Batman movies he did it in such a way that made just as much of a cultural impact as Tim Burton's did, if not bigger. So if I'm being honest, I'd rather have a bunch of pretentious shell game twaddle that aims big and falls short than not. I mean, yeah, I'd still rather have a *good* movie first and foremost, but Nolan's not the only dude letting anyone down on that front.

I'm sympathetic to the new editor of Sight and Sound trying to grow - or even retain - a readership, but this cover is the absolute pits. Saviour of cinema, even with a question mark, fuck off.

https://i1.wp.com/thumbs2.imgbox.com/64/89/Vj6T0KQv_t.jpg?ssl=1

I mean, only if he literally means keeper of 70 mm or whatever.

just a very serious artist in a suit. lol he looks like such a prick! And there was me thinking S&S had a rep to protect, desperate stuff.

you know, the first 45 minutes of this where we had fun buddy comedy with (FINALLY) a non-white charimastic Bond and R Patz doing his usual good job were quite good fun. then you add on 100 more minutes of a very very bad sci-fi film which basically does the same thing as Bill & Ted or Red Dwarfs' Backwards minus all the joy, comedy and interest that this concept should provoke, and i just wanted to die. At one point i did think "hmmm am i just not clever enough to keep working this out" - and then i decided that no, it just wasn't WORTH me giving a shit to try to decipher. Intersteller had it's problems but it at least had enough going on in various ways to make me keep wanting to watch. this is just a total artistic bomb and it doesn't deserve having a worldwide pandemic as an excuse for it's shitty box office. also, Kenny Branagh seems to take his bad guy inspiration and accent from classic 90s vhs board game Atmosfear's Gatekeeper:

https://youtu.be/2lJYFLvjkuo?t=25

feel bad for Chadwick and R Patz because no amount of their heavy lifting can make this dull weight of shite worth watching

John David Washington

I agree it starts out strong, I think it all goes downhill not after but during the plane crash. It's astonishing he could make something so inherently exciting so fucking boring looking.

just as much of a cultural impact as Tim Burton's did, if not bigger.

damning with faint praise

Much bigger

Saw a good comment:

And the hubris of their release. The local theater here before Tenet was playing older films for $5 in about 50% of it’s houses to fill the void of content. All but Black Panther are gone now. Replaced by 9 screens of Tenet. NINE. I saw it at an early access screening and there were less than 10 people. What in god’s name made them think that at ONE single theater over 1,000 people were going to simultaneously show up to watch Christopher Nolan for over a week three times a day.

Yeah it's nuts. Makes it even more incredible that the movie only made $12mil Labor Day weekend.

Luckily it only cost eight trillion dollars.

that did piss me off actually. cos i sure as hell ain't sitting through Tenet again, and now not much else playing.

btw basically 30 of the last 60 minutes basically is the same as the ending of Interstellar, where the unseen characters doing things on screen in the present are later revealed to be the main characters visiting from the future

Makes it even more incredible that the movie only made $12mil Labor Day weekend.

― flappy bird, Monday, September 14, 2020 12:27 PM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

How much of that was IMAX upcharges?

But yes, Tenet is in the vein of Interstellar and Memento--in retrospect you can fit the individual parts back into a linear narrative, but the whole doesn't live up to the effort. And if you subtract the "reverse entropy" element you're left with a so-so espionage film. The only element I enjoyed was the crashing of a cargo plane into the freeport as part of the raid. (What's Norwegian for "I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue"?)

i really liked this, but i like p much all nolan movies and don't relate to the comments on the ilx threads. the plot was a little too complicated, i wish he'd dumbed it down a bit more or had one more scene of exposition. the explanation for the turnstile machine is really quick for how important it is

john david washington is amazing

this movie was not good! twilight was kinda ok but branagh's evil russian was fucking horrible. also looked like they ran out of money by the big battle scene at the end, serious kirk vs the gorn desert landscape vibes

otm. never had any urge to check this out again.

lol, this was garbage! i just wanted a dumb enjoyable sci-fi movie and what i got was a bloviated, muddy and self-important time travel movie that's too cool to admit it's a time travel movie with a plot for that infinitesimal audience that finds bond films too pedestrian and direct. all the relationships are pointless, the sound design and mix is as terrible as you've heard it was (watching with subtitles made the story clear, but no less garbled and silly). the punchline is THE CHILDREN ARE OUR FUTURE and the moral is we should stop global warming or else the future will send gold to russian gangsters. the much ballyhooed visual fx are, by and large, pedestrian and - eventually - boring through repetition. complete waste of time, energy and resources. Recommended if you're the kind of person who likes to rewatch fight sequences that are reshot backwards to see how they mesh up with their prior iteration, otherwise skip this shit and wait for Synchronic which looks about twenty times better.

i am at a complete loss why i am supposed to care about the tall white lady or her kid; she's utterly horrible throughout and it's a safe bet the kid is gonna grow up to play polo with barron trump

I *think* the young kid was supposed to grow up to be RPatz's character.

We just watched it for the first time (inspired by this thread popping up) and mrs aldo's assumption at the end is that the kid becomes RPatz.

What a complete mess this was, it made absolutely no sense and at various points there were multiples of the leads going in the *same* direction in addition to those going backwards.

Nolan has taken a half-formed idea and built an action movie around it because he thinks a particular effect looks cool.

Nolan has taken a particular effect and built an half-formed idea around it because he thinks an action movie looks cool.

That's a fair comment. Which makes him of the school of Bay and McTiernan rather than peer to Kubrick etc like he believes.

yes imo

In terms of talent I'd put him more in a peer group of ex-Grange Hill directors that go on to make dental website videos or something, but this lad - "the saviour of cinema" © Sight & Sound magazine, tbf on him has really made an artform of putting out tedious dross that lots of people seem to like, until now of course!

He seems a deeply strange, pedantic person

That Fall lyric about "highest British attention to the wrong detail" always floats through my head when I think of him

john mctiernan is a significantly more talented filmmaker than christopher nolan!! i think the combination of genre schlock with poorly paced portentousness makes nolan more comparable to like... abel ferrara.

man nolan hasn’t made a movie as good as predator

i also feel insulted on behalf of ferrara now

or even the 13th warrior

xpost

or even predator 2!

lol read that as John McTernan at first, never mind US posters - he's an insignificant UK pol thread lurker!

man nolan hasn’t made a movie as good as predator

DUDE. Much ink has been spill nolans deficiencies with basic grammar of blocking, staging, shot-by-shot cutting, etc... I just rewatched Predator for the first time in forever and spent much of it being amazed at how good McTiernan was at all of that stuff.

Its a movie made up of shots where theres usually only one individual in the frame at a time, standing in front of nondescript monochromatic jungle backgrounds, plus one character who is moving around in the treetops in three dimensional space all around them (and is fucking invisible most of the time to boot!) - by all rights that movie should be completely spatially and visually incoherent. And yet you always have a crystal clear sense the geography and physical relationships of everybody and everything thats happening. It's honestly pretty impressive. Especially when you think of how much Nolan struggles with that stuff when working on a way simpler canvas.

The guy can take something as basic as a giant bat-tank chasing a huge van on a deserted city street (or whatever that scene was in the dark knight that people clowned on) and leave you confused about, like, how many vehicles are involved or where the fuck they are.

is the man a bat or is the bat a man?

I *think* the young kid was supposed to grow up to be RPatz's character.

This whole film reminded me of a time when i was at a hotel and this guy came over and started aggressively hitting on my date and was doing sleight of hand close up magic and every time he finished a trick he stared at me like "HOW ABOUT THAT?!?!" and after the third trick and the third time he asked "any idea how that happened? want to see it again?" I said "i take it you practice this stuff a lot" and he found that simultaneously offensive and boring and went to get my date drinks and i think we left.

SO much expository over so much "serious smart stuff" and so much left unexplained for no reason except *handwaving gestures*

so much that was so obvious: pretty clear that he was fighting himself in the first freeport battle, just not why or how; pretty clear that rpatz was FROM THE FUTURE and that washington hired him; pretty clear whenever some "you'll see this again backwards!" shit was going on because they labeled it with visual highlighter

so much that i'm willing to put up with if not for the impossible cardinal sin with an action sci-fi extravaganza like this: it was pretty boring.

lol. yeah this was so bad.

i knew he was fighting himself, yeah. it was telegraphed for sure

someone's a little cranky
https://www.cnet.com/news/christopher-nolan-hbo-max-is-the-worst-streaming-service/

taken a half-formed idea and built an action movie around it because he thinks a particular effect looks cool

i thought this was an interesting comment because that's how i've always assumed predator happened! some cgi wonk figured out how to do the active camouflage effect and they figured out a movie around it. and despite that, it's one of the best movies ever, definitely in my sci fi top 10, and the sequel definitely in the top 20. i don't have any proof this is how predator actually happened, just guessing here, but i imagine there's at least a few good sci fi / fantasy / horror movies where the effect came first and they built the film around it.

still haven't seen tenet, as a physics teacher and spy movie fan who can tolerate nolan for the most part i was pretty excited for this. i really like the concept of a bond movie built around reversing the flow of entropy, sad to hear that this movie apparently sucks so bad

it is funny to me though that ppl in the future can figure out how to break the most basic law of thermodynamics (ie reverse the direction of entropy) but ... can't solve global warming? you'd figure if you can reverse the flow of heat you could probably work out how to cool down the earth without needing to obliterate it?!?

then again idk what i expected, interstellar definitely had some embarrassingly bad physics in it (gravity on this planet js strong enough to noticeably warp time, yet we can take off and land in a shuttle with a reaction engine that doesn't look like it could make escape velocity on earth)

yeah, anything that doesn't fit the program is basically given the "but more importantly" treatment

that CNET interview is rich. "Warner Bros. had an incredible machine for getting a filmmaker's work out everywhere, both in theaters and in the home, and they are dismantling it as we speak. They don't even understand what they're losing. Their decision makes no economic sense."

...If you're just tuning in, this is distribution advice from the guy who insisted on burning $100m of WB money by insisting his movie get a theatrical release during an airborne deathvirus pandemic

this is a bad james bond movie with sci-fi guns added

that's how i've always assumed predator happened! some cgi wonk figured out how to do the active camouflage effect and they figured out a movie around it

In fact, remarkably, there's no CGI in Predator at all.

still haven't seen tenet, as a physics teacher and spy movie fan who can tolerate nolan for the most part i was pretty excited for this. i really like the concept of a bond movie built around reversing the flow of entropy, sad to hear that this movie apparently sucks so bad

it's actually good

This whole film reminded me of a time when i was at a hotel and this guy came over and started aggressively hitting on my date and was doing sleight of hand close up magic and every time he finished a trick he stared at me like "HOW ABOUT THAT?!?!" and after the third trick and the third time he asked "any idea how that happened? want to see it again?" I said "i take it you practice this stuff a lot" and he found that simultaneously offensive and boring and went to get my date drinks and i think we left.

this guy sounds awesome

my man 😎

"the guy who insisted on burning $100m of WB money by insisting his movie get a theatrical release during an airborne deathvirus pandemic"

A selfless act to save cinema you mean.

I half-watchec a dload copy of this while playing Civ and not paying much attention and I still figured out he was fighting himself in that first bit and then it was like "oh ok its a rick and morty episode with car chases" and lost interest.

AND IT WAS SO BLOODY NOISY.

i'm very glad I didn't pay money to see this in a theater. it was groanworthy. and how this is Nolan's most expensive film is beyond me; I guess blowing things up costs a lot, but it wasn't visually stunning at all. Dunkirk, Interstellar, and Inception are all more interesting to look at (as well as being better movies)

this may piss some of you off but the early-on realization for me watching this was the sensation fo sitting through a 2 1/2 hour Hideo Kojima intro. Same tangential connections to common sense, knotty dialogue, pointless relationships, pseudo-intellectual intrigues but none of the actual gameplay.

watching Tenet with the subtitles off like pic.twitter.com/D9ZQ1PNR3s

— Eric Allen Hatch (@ericallenhatch) December 23, 2020

So glad I saw this in a big theater with big sound

xp It did frequently remind me of a Kojima production (missing the military gear fetishization in yr list) without any of his gonzo redeeming qualities.

This is bone dry and so demanding of an audience to put in the work for what exactly? It’s a lot of algebra for a fucking Bond film.

I stuck with it for the spectacle. Practical effects shit is neat, especially on this level. Pattinson the only memorable human in this.

i kinda liked it! esp the highway heist car chase scene

It’s weird, one of the reasons I keep signing up for these Nolan joints is to see actual planes and cars and trucks shot with IMAX cameras doing crazy things with a lot of money, but I still feel like he’s strangely inept at putting together action scenes.

Watching this tonight. This really is Nolan’s attempt at a Bond film with time fuckery and an American protagonist, isn’t it? The fact that they have a catamaran race kinda gives it away.

Am just now reading through this thread and seeing that my basic feelings about this have been expounded upon thoroughly and viciously. Haha.

Watching Tenet on my toilet seat, as Christopher Nolan intended pic.twitter.com/PPhg6We35f

— Bertrand Fan (@bertrandom) January 24, 2021

i love when Kenneth Branagh's in my shitter

cmon, you know where that's going

ready to pounce!

The dialogue in this film, when it's not buried under layers of sound, is insane. It's so clipped and freighted with information it's like every conversation is between two people with a lifetime of shared history and semiotics, even when they've only just met. (Which, I suppose, is technically true given the nature of the relationships.) If you replaced each line with a functional description you wouldn't lose that much:

"Threat of violence"
"Sardonic response"
"Promise of violence"
"Cryptic allusion"
"Offer of a deal"

With dialogue that brittle though, if you lose even one word in twenty the whole thing quickly becomes incomprehensible. I had no idea what was going on with the plutonium 241, what The Protagonist's deal with Sator was meant to be. I like that this thread barely deals with the mechanics of the story but here's some other things that confused me, without even getting into the reverse entropy:

What was going on with the opera house siege (who were the terrorists, who were our guys rescuing, who were the other fake cops, what was the piece of the algoremuffin doing in the cloakroom)?
Why did he go and live in a wind turbine?
Why did he need all that subterfuge to meet the scientist, couldn't they just have set up an appointment?
The scientist says we don't know how to reverse entropy but by the end they're doing it left right and centre
Why did Priya Singh want Sator to assemble the algoremuffin?

Also the soundtrack was doing so much work generating tension and emotion in the action scenes, feels like cheating.

If it wasn't for the dazzling production values, this film would be in so bad it's good territory, and I think it will be seen as such once the superficial lustre has faded. A colossal misfire.

The soundtrack was indeed far too good for the movie.

it did feel a bit like playing a text-based computer game from the 80s in which very quickly you didn't even understand what game you were playing or what commands you could even type in and then threw it in the garbage can

The entropy reversal is a pretty neat idea - if you like that kind of thing - but I don't know if you could ever make a movie with it that would appeal to people who don't fancy multiple rewatches and drawing timelines and the like.

when introduced it is actually a really entertaining idea, then about a half hour in, I realized what they were doing with it wasn't interesting to me anymore.

It would have made a great watch if it had just been a freewheeling, different location every 15 mins, mildly techy Bond-style thing.

the chart-drawing crowd has given up on nolan ever since inception didn't make sense when examined closely.

xp and with audible dialogue.

the problem with asking logical questions about this film is someone on the internet would love to give you answers

Hey Forks, did you catch Synchronic?

i haven't yet! it's available to me, just having a hard time getting to it.
i love Benson and Moorhead to death but the reviews have not been strong...

I have it lined up for later, I'm a big fan of B&M too.

they haven't made anything i haven't liked yet

The entropy reversal is a pretty neat idea

I don't think it was at all. I think Nolan thought "hey, wouldn't backwards fight scenes look rad" and then made up some utter bullshit to justify doing that.

christopher nolan is the drake of filmmaking

^^^ something my girl Jasmine said that seemed correct somehow

U da fuckin we worst
Baby u da fucking worst

“Tom and Jerry made more money its opening weekend than Tenet”
https://www.vulture.com/2021/03/tom-and-jerry-has-good-opening-weekend-at-box-office.html

Surprised it didn't get nominated for any Oscars.

The only noms I think it deserves are music for sure, maaaaybe cinematography?

It wins the award for movie causing the most deaths

it's up for two oscars isn't it?

lol abanana

still amazed at the logic of his tantrum: insisting on releasing a movie during a time when most people are legally prohibited from seeing it vs waiting until this summer when people are going to be flocking to theaters to see any old dogshit 10 times in a row just bc theyll be excited to get out of the house

Since the other Synchronic mention is in the post-2005 horror thread, adding here due to above comments. Liked this a lot. The jump edits worked well with the theme, and the characters were sympathetic and decently acted. Lots of cool images. Look forward to their next film. It's on Hoopla, for anyone using that US library app.

wow this was utterly, supremely baffling. genuinely had no idea what was happening for most of the running time. maybe i'm dumb, but at a fundamental level, i just straight up did not "get" the reversal gimmick, how it worked, how people related to it or worked around it, how you would make weapons with it or execute plans with it, what was going on when people were parallel to each other in those rooms with the big goofy steampunk machines, or any of the light-bulb "wooooah" realizations i imagine i was supposed to have during the setpieces that involve action going both directions (?)... just utterly totally lost. fundamentally could not tell the difference between people going forward in time versus backwards --- like what were the backwards people experiencing? what were they trying to do? i don't understand.

but over top of that, the actual stakes or goals of most of the big scenes escaped me. okay so he's going back in time! or maybe forward! to get the case from the guy at the site of the last car chase! or maybe he's leaving it there? before the scene happened? or is this like ten minutes after that scene and the case is just like, still there? or maybe this is days before the chase? wait why did they bring her back in time with them again? and on and on...

obviously the main problem here is that, easily, 1/3 to 1/2 of the dialogue was indecipherable through the mud of the sound mix. which seems like a mistake when your plot depends on keeping people up to speed with a confusing gimmick and also a whole lot of what i gather may have been plot twists or maybe even character development (the latter seems doubtful). more the fool me for watching this on the big screen in 70mm as the director intended it --- being able to switch on closed-captioning might have been a game-changer.

i wish i could say it at least worked for me as pure action shot-on-film practical-effects spectacle or something. i'll say that i rode the general momentum being confused but not actively annoyed for most of the running time, but then it hit the climax and all throughout it my brain was overtaxed trying to grasp the action or give meaning to the fast-paced onslaught of overstuffed images by extrapolating my always limited comprehension of the original, unhelpful, "inverted bullet" demonstration scene. might have been cool if the guy giving the briefing on their "pincer operation" were not just as muffled and overwhelmed in the mix as everything else. ultimately this was like watching Inception in a language i don't speak, turned up very loud, and recut in random order.

more the fool me for watching this on the big screen in 70mm as the director intended it --- being able to switch on closed-captioning might have been a game-changer.

Yeah, watching it on a laptop with subtitles made its dopey-ass plot crystal clear.

yeah, it's not better served by understanding it sadly

The captions are worth it just to get a sense of how hilariously ridiculous the dialogue is. A world where everyone talks in the same tortured, overwritten 3rd-tier Mamet-speak. I felt sympathy for actors who had to deliver it all with a straight face - its clearly one of those scripts where no one thought about how any of the lines would sound coming out of a human mouth until they were on set calling action.

So I haven’t watched much tv, let alone movies, in the last 3 yrs - just haven’t had the attention span - but I watched this on a plane last week and it was really good and even fun?! It’s pretty dry but I didn’t mind that. It was just nice to watch a movie that gives you an idea to think about afterwards. The whole inverse entropy thing was a pretty original take on time travel, regardless of how factual it was.

I watched The Northman right after this, and it was so fucking bad all round. I looked up reviews and couldn’t believe how high people were rating it. So corny.

I watched this recently and enjoyed the angle...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OoLokmqo0A

hmm! i do appreciate the idea that basically the equivalent of a GAMES Magazine elite-level brain-teaser, delivered as an action blockbuster, rather than an action blockbuster that founders on all its brain-teasing attempts.

did disagree with the idea of JDW as a blank slate. i thought he was great, but i definitely felt like this was his *next* huge star turn after BlackKklansman.

Xp that was a good analysis and summed up why I enjoyed the movie so much

Watching that also made me realize I’m a dumb fuck bc until he mentioned it, I didn’t realize JDW was Denzel’s son - the stupidest part is that while I was watching tenet I kept thinking how much he sounded just like Denzel but I never made the connection

This movie’s good as heck and that’s my most horrible opinion from the last couple years

In the last couple of months I've heard a couple of people say this is actually Nolan's best movie. It's making me want to revisit it even though I didn't really care for it too much the one time I saw it. Maybe this is the one movie in his filmography which actually gets better on repeat viewings? (probably not)

It's going to take me about a week to watch it but so far I'm enjoying more than the first time. Subtitles definitely helping.

silby is right, tenet is good now - in the sphere of timey-wimey films that need to be watched at least twice, anyway.

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Finally saw this today at an arthouse theater (had tried to watch it only a plane once and only got a few minutes in). Definitely want to re-watch with subtitles sometime, but enjoyed it a lot -- imagining Nolan pitching this as a James Bond movie.

Spoiler for the first two minutes of the movie: can't believe Nolan had the audacity to open this with a mass shooting at a theater with stadium seating.

*on a plane once

alternatively could be formulated as a clunky joke: can’t believe nolan had the honesty / prophetic power / foreshadowing skill to open this movie with a theater full of sleeping people

i like nolan and this movie tho

I'm gonna watch it tonight for the first time....after the Barbie screening lol

I feel like I might have liked this better if the theatre had closed captioning when I saw it

like what were the backwards people experiencing? what were they trying to do? i don't understand

this is a hilarious and perfect level of not getting it, since the backwards and forwards ppl are the same ppl, and the backward ppl in the second third are mostly just ppl you’ve already seen moving forward. so this implies you don’t understand what forward ppl are doing either!

tbf not understanding what the forward ppl are doing or saying is like 90% of the complaints about this movie

you have to remember it’s a nolan movie tho, so when you remember that the backward ppl in the second half are the forward ppl from first half, you think about what the second third forward ppl are trying to do, and then remember back that the first third forward ppl are reacting to the second third forward people going backward in the first third, and that’s why the backward ppl in the second third are doing what they’re doing, which is important, because then when you see the final third all those ppl going forward are now reacting to the backward ppl in the first half while the backward ppl in that part are doing incomprehensible shit because they’re mostly from the in world future and have foreknowledge of stuff that hasn’t happened yet to anyone, so basically you’re doing inception on your own big brain as an advanced viewer of big brain cinema

there’s LEVELS to nolan do u see which is why just like cremaster movies they’re always in weird big buildings with spiral staircases and odd hallways with weird forms of ingress and egress

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as someone who hasn't seen the movie your last paragraph is the funniest thing I've read all day

what’s funny about restraint, masturbation, big spectacles, masturbation while restrained and a ten hour film cycle about your own testes?

also, i know this is the nolan thread but what’s so funny about mathew barney?

wokka wokka i know but honest to god i assume someone has already done this? the tweets write themselves (gif of the demolition derby in the guggenheim juxtaposed with dark knight returns batman making the joker’s long truck stand weirdly erect like a skyscraper)

Barney IS Nolan but moving backward

(I meant the paragraph that explains the story btw)

haha epic take

the dinosaur?

xpost yes i caught the xpost

xp yes, bjork married barney, who is a dinosaur. pvmic by neanderthal

specifically the reverse momentum was cool but simply incomprehensible to watch

specifically any time nolan hits u with the "but what really matters is _feelings and ppl_ do u see" despite having deployed more excellent casts as walking overplot explainers for a higher proportion of his movies than any director i could name

nb i like nolan movies as things to watch and feel smugly about appreciating the technical efforts and style and cool stuff while criticising the lack of heart and this is an important niche tbf

nolan as darraghfirmation

i probably would rep for memento as a work of actual genius also, i mean im going to go see oppenheimer in 35mm and all that

its vey frustrating that a billion dollar machine cannot see how much better i could make his movies, chris baby if ur reading this call me baby

actually this is bringing in more unrelated BS but there’s a very similar gimmick in gene wolfe’s new sun and subsequent series, a set of characters moving in reverse continuity (vs the narrator / reader). then when the reader starts moving in time the actions of this set of characters take on a different light. this is a really dense set of books though, and it’s pretty confusing!

so maybe: 1) nolan really did want to make a puzzle box, and that’s okay (as opposed to being a titanic masturbator like mathew barney) and 2) nolan would be the only person who could direct a gene wolfe botns movie

i was so so so psyched to read newsun because of the ilx thread on it and i put it down one night and i went to read it the next day and not only could i not findy way back to wherever i left it but not a word of a lie now i couldn't even find out what fucking *book* id been reading

it is confusing and subtle. a lot of the practical effects are really weird. like the shootout in the road when the cars are stopped, there’s windshields shattering in forward and reverse, and in theory you could mentally follow backward to see who’s shooting in what direction, so you can pick apart who’s on what side and who’s going in which direction

but when you watch it in real time it’s very subtle, and you mostly get this sense of unreal weirdness because windows are shattering but everything looks subtly wrong, sort of like an uncanny valley i guess?

time travel so realistic it doesn’t signpost what’s going on (like the way back to the future or marvel might with time travel) so you just end up feeling dislocated and confused.

and then on top of that it just makes the mundane plot (about trying to grab the macguffin from the other guys) harder to follow

the “feelings and ppl” criticism also makes sense to me! although i don’t find feelings and ppl important in movies. i mean, feelings and ppl are important but that’s not really what i watch sci fi films for

so maybe: 1) nolan really did want to make a puzzle box, and that’s okay (as opposed to being a titanic masturbator like mathew barney)

im all for feelings and ppl in any genre i think nolan has rarely demonstrated the actual knack for it tbh, he wants to always blow you away with the moment in a tour de force of shock and awe which i think rarely doesnthe performances of his actors justice (pattinson i think actually takes his quiet moment beautifully in tenet tho)

i think the first comparison id go to to demonstrate what good looks like is probably arrival, if i had to shorthand where i think nolans stitching doesnt quite hold up?

the technical stuff, entropy and momentum as reversing forces or what have you, i trust him to be getting right and to have deployed perfectly as gar as justifying each separate effect.

i just think he doesn't always deploy the undoubtedly correct phenomena/concepts at play very well as story device i guess

arrival is good! but how about dune? annihilation? i’d suggest it’s a better comparison than you might realize. they have a similar technique (or at least similar rigid adherence to a maybe less similar set of principles) and a similar hit rate!

i think arrival is disappointing to me in that the parts a lot of people like are the parts that make a lot of tv / cinema (and even more so, literary fiction) hard for me to swallow. see also ilx favorite children of men, which takes bleak sci fi and adds in that golden globe bs plus the urban combat misery porn you usually just get from the intl news

i loved both dune and annihilation but they are either flank of arrival on the "hard scifi the only emotions are devastation, lust or glory" or "all sci fi is actually a dream of the central character" axis which is totally a real axis

children of men had charlie hunnam in seven league boots chase a car for an hour in what one can only assume was a t-1000 reference we wont hear criticism

feel like the tide is turning and more and more smart guys are admitting that they like nolan movies

versus the previous equilibrium where smart guy consensus was that nolan makes "a dumb guy's idea of a smart movie" so if u admit u like the movies you're admitting that you're dumb

As part of my media cleanse/donation I gave away my Children Of Men DVD, because there’s probably no time I’ll need to be horrified like that again - real life is already to close to it

speaking of the tide turning his next movie is a family drama set during a supertsunami caused by a tilt of one half a degree in the earths axis caused by the main characters grandfather standing on a butterfly fifty years before we're only waiting on a title and mcconaghey to be old enough to play the grandfather also the grandfather surfs do u see

Every screening for Oppenheimer starting Thursday is sold out at the AMC theater where I'm screening Barbie tonight.

I hate DeSantis.

sounds p good xp

so a cloud atlas remake?

or was that the tree of life

yeah its gonna be good michael caine plays the butterfly

it’s intellectual, philosophical, psychedelic sci fi cinema, like a reboot of point break done in the style of kubrick’s 2001. the first is told from the point of view of a shark hunting prehistoric samoans

first hour*

I don't care about so called smart guy consensus, if they think these boring hack Nolan monstrosities are good then I'm glad to be thick. He's a pompous talentless moron.

calz its about a shark chasing prehistoric Samoans but its also a metaphor cmon this is good stuff anyone can enjoy

i’m okay with ppl who are pompous, who are talentless and who are morons. all three yeah, it’s kinda hard to take! luckily i’m just out here enjoying his films not judging his persona

i haven't seen all of Nolan's films (missed Following, Interstellar, and Insomnia.) i don't think any of them are bad, really. well okay, The Dark Knight Rises is bad. Tenet is incomprehensible but maybe only due to the burying of the dialogue, and i've been meaning to rewatch it with subtitles. i like TLG's take: time travel is so realistic it doesn't register, it's not a big orb materializing to drop a terminator somewhere, it's just casually happening seamlessly within the world (i know it's not quite time travel but the point stands...)

i have always felt Nolan's coldness was probably overstated, when he does go for emotion he does okay, certainly no worse than many filmmakers, and in some cases better. for example inception gets dinged for being just a puzzle box but i think the marion cotillard storyline was moving, in the final act. cillian murphy's storyline too, though i guess in a way he's being conned and i'm not sure how much of a feel good emotional ending it really is for him!

Dunkirk was better than i suspected in that way, a relatively simple trick of messing w/time in the story, but vv cleverly integrated.

Memento is his best, it's simply astonishing that he was able to craft a narrative that made perfect sense in reverse in that way, and to fill it with such tension.

also if you don’t care abt what smart guys think why are four of your five of your seven adjectives personality traits (hack, pompous, talentless, moron). boring can be applied equally to film or ilx posters, monstrosity i suppose is an adjective about the film but just tells us you didn’t like the film, presumably to draw contrast between yourself and so called smart guys like nolan (who are actually pompous, talentless, boring, moron hacks!!)

man i can’t or edit

I don't even really know what his persona is apart from being a posh English prick. You sound like chatgpt you sad prick

the first one I outright hated was Interstellar. Tenet I didn't hate but there's only a certain amount of "Exposition: The Movie" i can take

but it is more interesting to see people defending Nolan itt for once so I support the late great

i liked interstellar for some reason despite it having all of the hoke im ripping him for above i found it light enough to really watch is as comic book fable

perhaps this would enrage him

It's funny, part of how I ended up seeing Tenet yesterday was because a few months back a friend who loves Miami Vice (2006) thought I would like it for reasons similar to that one. And after my first viewing, I get where he's coming from, in the sense of little exposition and everything being very present tense, and kinetic overshadowing comprehension (especially in Tenet toward the big set piece).

I also listened to part of last weekend's The Treatment interview between Elvis Mitchell and Nolan, where Nolan describes Dunkirk as being a challenge to write a story where character is action, without backstory. That definitely makes sense with our guy in Tenet. I didn't get quite why he needed to prioritize the Russian villain's wife over everything else. I did like Branagh as the Russian -- would like to see him and Malkovich face off in something.

i was going to save a huge post for later so as not to stifle fun conversation, but in order to give us something to talk about other than who is posh, english, and or a miserable prick … here you go!!

think the dark knight might be his worst, but it’s probably his most entertaining! the bank robbery scene and the joker killing a dude w a pencil are, frankly, the best gta cutscenes in modern history!!

i think i understand why nolan gets dinged for being pompous or a moron. he goes for emotions that you used to see in war movies, things like appeal to duty, or familial responsibility, etc. kinda dry civics lesson stuff you might remember from movies like “twelve angry men” or “forbidden planet”. the supposed big ideas and intellectual currents (in nolan and forbidden planet) are pretty straightforward and would have been totally to viewers of “outer limits” or readers of pulp sci fi (authors like blish, asimov, shakespeare)

forbidden planet is one of my all time favorites, i don’t watch it thinking that leslie nielsen or dr morbius are nailing relatable human emotions or experiences. they’re comic book characters, like perry mason or atticus finch.

i can connect emotionally to the story because i’ve fought with my parents, i’ve built things that have gotten out of control, i’ve used power incorrectly, etc but i have to pour my feelings about duty or ethics or whatever into these old movies, whether they’re corny movies about duty or ethics, formal puzzles like hitchcock, didactic sci fi films like thx-1138 or alphaville etc.

these films can’t do the emoting for me the way tony soprano etc does for ppl who watch prestige tv, and maybe it’s unforgivably glaringly obvious when modern stuff is that corny, but it’s all going to seem corny in retrospect. wasn’t there just a huge thread where ppl were talking about how (in the long run) prestige tv turned out in retrospect to be more emotionally manipulative than emotionally engaging?

i think ppl want to think that modern cinema has some sort of different job, which is fine. that might be rooted into different ideas about ideas like duty (like can there be any correct relation to duty or power, or should cinema only be about how those relations are fraught). if that’s your take i suppose these movies would certainly look corny or worse

sometimes, I put on the sky movie channel for my son for some background noise. Every time I catch a few glimpses of a Nolan movie, it really triggers me. He's so bad at what he does. And the media coverage of him in the UK is so reverent, it makes me feel like I'm going insane.

wasn’t there just a huge thread where ppl were talking about how (in the long run) prestige tv turned out in retrospect to be more emotionally manipulative than emotionally engaging?

i missed this thread maybe, but i think the manner in which so many prestige tv shows went for the feel-bad, they were truly manipulative in that sense, and i always felt so many of those shows were ultimately not nearly as brilliant as they were made out to be when they were blinding you with their entertainment value. so many of them actually were great but for example for the above reason i think large aspects of the breaking bad extended universe are kind of manipulatively in the worse senses.

also with respect to the Miami Vice/Tenet comp, that does make sense in a lot of ways. also i felt like the debicki/washington/branagh triangle was reminiscent of the debicki/hiddleston/laurie triangle in The Night Manager, in some key ways (but other ways which were vv different.)

i think you can like or admire movies where everything is done well and as it ought be and all that but there might be an argument that in order to really love a certain type of big showy effort like nolan clearly is only interested in, you have to perhaps be able to see why people would hate it too

speaking of ways in which branagh echoes other movies in tenet he plays the same character in chris pyans jack ryan movie ie hes fuckin terrible in both and should have been laughed off the set and thats why malkovich comparison is a good one cf taht matt damon clip where he cant believe how bad of an actor malkovich is nor why people are praising what he jas just done

ben kinglsey? no shut up thats not the same thing shut up i said

every time i make an excellent post my keyboard gets smaller

well i certainly can’t argue with that. i’m always surprised make billion dollar multiplex bets on nolan. i’m not sitting around wondering why they’re not making nolan level event movies like phase iv or laloux’s fantastic planet.

even the idea that nolan is higher-profile than, say, aster or peele is nuts to me. i’m not really sure what makes him such a safer bet, or sell on a larger scale. is that just the commercial power of superhero movies?

ah i can answer that: connections

his uncle is shagging helga from allo allo

cant buy that level of pull m8

that post was all in xp response to calzino’s post abt feeling triggered. i don’t quite get nolan’s commercial “success” and i’m not sure my reasons for liking nolan match those of studios or his own goals

but yeah even as a fan i legitimately don’t understand his stature in the industry (compared to idk james cameron or michael bay, who i get). i was trying to go see asteroid city movie and was blown away at how many seats oppenheimer was taking up. barbie, sure, but oppenheimer? they were showing it on like six or eight screens in some theatres. are there smart people who just refuse to watch barbie?

branagh has been objectively terrible since the early 90s when my english teachers would make me go to arthouse theatres in fancy nbhds to get a few points of extra credit for watching merchant ivory adaptations of the bard

I thought The Dark Knight Rises and Inception were incredibly overwrought, with cartoonishly dark storylines that were just embarrassing and heavy-handed

...and with the worst kind of overbearing overloud music soundtrack that, just by itself, completely ruined the films for me.

Interstellar was ok. Dunkirk redeemed him a bit I thought

I didn't want to watch Tenet, maybe I will in the future. I'm hopeful about Oppenheimer

lost a post and fuckit

but i was comparing nolan to fincher in that each gets to wear a few hats lightly, can play as indie breakthrough or auteur or safe project guy or megahit talent helmsman while retaining critical and business kudos and all that, i think hes a director that producers feel good about backing essentially before they even start making money back

have you ever noticed the overlap between the elon musk fanbase and the hans zimmer fanbase

talk about overrated, holy fuck! but when he’s on … there were sequences (short ones) from that bad superman reboot (the one people compared to malick) that were redeemed solely by the zimmer score

there is some similar stylistic/pretentious prat comparisons to make between Nolan/Fincher. But imo Fincher wins because there is something so stillborn and dead about all Nolan movies and he seems to get nothing out of actors. I'm not really a Fincher fan either but liked his netflix work, Mindhunting and Mank. Probably his best work. And he's much better at atmosphere and mood, even if most of his movies aren't that good at least they aren't completely fucking unwatchable trash.

i thought the joker *mostly* managed the very edge of the balance between light and dark (will be familiar to readers of late 80s comics) … those goofy gags that i referred to as video game cutscenes helped. completely agree about dark knight rises, which lost those iirc

inception got worse and worse as it went on. beginning was ok, bit like existenz or something. then toward the very end it got to be like a tool or dream theatre video. not hard to imagine the guy from soundgarden or stone temple pilots screaming into the vortex while the band shreds at all angles behind him in a crumbling escher cityscape

like inception, i think their songs were also about their distant parents not loving them enough

Even though I'm fairly pro inception, I have to say the whole backstory involving DiCaprio and cotillard might have made for a more interesting romantic tragedy film minus all the dream thief hijinks, which I mostly probably enjoy for the visuals, when the story gets its most matrixy.

I didn't get quite why he needed to prioritize the Russian villain's wife over everything else

i think it’s because, unlike the lady in india, the washington character (the “protagonist” lmao) isn’t willing to make compromises about harming innocents.

the problem is that the the lady in india and the russians’ wife are soooo murky (in terms of whether they’re good guys and whether they’re being honest or not) that it doesn’t really qualify or land as an example of “action as character”, it just seems like nolan is making washington make white knight choices because its a james bond movie and he’s the james bond character.

i think it relates to some kind of bigger conversation about blame and innocence that ALSO sort of relates to a point about climate crisis and action (which in real life tends to get locked up in conversation about responsibility) but all the moral relations are so murky and realistic and understated all this stuff never congeals either

007 movies would make easy work of that stuff by just w the wife lady a cute dog (instead of an absent son) who saves the protagonist in slow motion, also the indian lady would have a snake around her neck and bionic eye

"bit like existenz or something"

Cronenburg was slightly ahead of the curve with that gem

all posts since otm bar the word unwatchable which ofc is personal

agree about mindhunter for sure i think zodiac and that will stand test of time v well

It's funny, part of how I ended up seeing Tenet yesterday was because a few months back a friend who loves Miami Vice (2006) thought I would like it for reasons similar to that one.

men in fancy suits working through plots with lots of moving pieces being threatened with violence/destruction is Nolan's wheelhouse for sure

it actually works really well as relaxing background sunday afternoon viewing

My not-really-a-joke about Miami Vice (one of my faves) is that you have to watch it four or five times before it starts getting really good. Before that, there's a lot of muffled jargon that also happens to be essential to making sense of the plot, rather than just experiencing it as one of the world's best coffee-table books. I was showing it to someone recently who asked for the subtitles, and it made a huge difference (even to me, on my 30th or so viewing).

And funny seeing Tenet in a theater (and I don't see a ton in theaters) and feeling like I wanted to have subtitles and/or rewind to make sense of moments. But then I wouldn't have had the experience, especially with that hostage scene, of trying to figure out why the dialogue was processed into gobbledygook, that I wasn't missing anything yet that I was supposed to understand. And in this way, both Tenet and Vice have an audacious ton of incomprehensibility for a $150 million-plus popcorn movie.

holy shit is Branagh not scary at all after the first three minutes

i rewound tenet in a few bits but all that happened was different people were moving backwards and talking nonsense

I definitely took three watches of Miami Vice just to figure out exactly what was happening, and the third watch was where I went from guarded like to love. so Eazy otm

i rewound tenet in a few bits but all that happened was different people were moving backwards and talking nonsense

― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Tuesday, July 18, 2023 3:35 PM bookmarkflaglink

and sadly the mileage still wasn't reversing on Cameron's dad's car

and Cameron's dad was Kenneth Branagh

poe cameron

My not-really-a-joke about Miami Vice (one of my faves) is that you have to watch it four or five times before it starts getting really good

this is my usual line about à la recherche du temps perdu (“yeah i can’t say i really appreciated it until the fourth reading, maybe halfway through albertine disparu)l when it clicked for me”)

holy shit is Branagh not scary at all after the first three minutes

I just finished watching myself and...yeah. (Man, that sound mix too! I flicked on subtitles about four minutes in.)

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See, I would accept this.

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how to get a standard ilx post a four star empire review

Sold.

I have to admit one thing that bemused me was one of the characters started talking about Oppenheimer and his fears about blowing up the world and I'm all "Okay, wait, was this a conscious plant or"

yes, he must have known that Oppenheimer was his next project when making Tenet right?

I like the idea of Oppenheimer being a stealth Tenet prequel (or sequel? I guess it could go either way)

the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

can someone from the ilx film clown car explain

Explain the greatest bit of film criticism ever?

I was lurking on that thread in real time as it was happening and I still laugh at that Utility Data bit every time I think about it.

so it’s not complicated, just trot out the hoary old chestnut whenever a white elephant needs deflating

methinks you're greatly overthinking it

too many underrate the impact of campus utility data when evaluating a director’s work

“We live in a twilight world.”

pattinsons jerry maguire

starting to watch this now, assuming this still applies

Is there any Nolan film that doesn't basically have the theme "Ahh, but you did it to yourself"?

― kinder, Sunday, 27 June 2021 09:06 (two years ago)

Kenneth Brannagh really didn't need to be a grumpy Russian in this, seriously was no-one else available?

I like how the woman's character is "her son", it's good they remind you she has a son every 5 minutes in case you forget she's a mother and start to think she might have any other facets to her whatsoever

I see the young son hangs back out of the foreground for a lot of this movie about what is going to happen in the future

Her son, though

On a tangential John David Washington note, _The Creator_ confirms he has a knack for sf films with big sets and design. (Was very entertained by said new film, I'll add.)

I'm now watching Bill and Ted Face the Music and there are genuinely some of the exact same themes

ive watched kenneth branagh in his last five roles and im not sure he fucking changed expression or accent across the gamut

christopher nolan direct a movie where a woman has an important part beyond being a plot device challenge

Interstellar almost worked but then you realize one character was there to give the protagonist an epiphany about being human and the other was there to decipher morse code

do u often handwave away strong female characters like that

it’s still monday morning here, dmac, let me complain a little without having to address my own systemic biases for a couple hours

i didn't love inception, but it had a much more interesting central conceit, more intriguing puzzle, and much clearer emotional stakes than this! why should i bother deciphering the puzzle if the action on screen is barely comprehensible and motivations obscure?

i thought tbh it had marginally less clear dialogue than incpetion but shared utterly the other flaws you set out there

they were mainly saying "woah" and "party on" iirc

I saw this tonight on a plane with subtitles and it was exactly what I expected it to be after reading the premise. It passed the time well.

but DID IT?

the time passed YOU

Yeah, originally I kept going back in time to watch it again but everything was inverted when I did that, so I cut that off and now I only watch it in the future.

And then your plane landed and you exited and walked backwards to the terminal gate of your departure...

I’m not walking backwards, I’m moonwalking forwards to the best sounding song in the inverted world: full fathom five by the stone roses

they've been showing it for 6 days in 70mm at the Grand Lake Theater in Oakland... ends Wednesday

This last string of posts makes be wonder if the problem with this movie is that it needed to be far goofier

xp presumptuous tbh

this movie would be much better if it was a thriller for the forward moving timeline and a romcom for the backwards one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2FXfFeRtJo

a long time out but i listen and laugh every time

Every time I see this thread title I automatically think the movie must be a bio-pic about George Tenet, ex-director of the CIA. Then I think, who the fuck would watch that movie?

there is nothing to say this movie would not wear such a reading tbh

is that guy in the clip Joey McIntyre

I like Nolan’s movies but this is hilarious

That is perfect