THE FUTURE IS FILMIC EJACULATIONS: The ILX Film Poll (for 2018 viewings) Voting Thread - Ballots Due Friday June 21st

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Still hoping to catch up on some movies from last year that are now on streaming services or shiny discs, or haven't been released in your country yet? Sure, so have all of us. But let's think about the ones we did manage to watch, and see which we liked best!

Voting is now open for the ILX 2018 film poll: things that had a theatrical screening in 2018 are eligible.

Send ballots to i l x polls ter [at] g ma il [dot] c o m by June 21st

MAXIMUM 35 votes

MINIMUM 10 votes

Votes are weighted. Please send your lists with your TOP choice at the TOP, but do not number your choices. (It's a ballache for formatting.)

If you're voting for a non-English-speaking film that has a commonly-accepted English title, by all means include the original title in brackets, but type the English title first. (This also helps with tallying, and does not otherwise reflect the pollrunner's preferences.)

SIDE POLLS:

You can also vote for your top FIVE only-on-streaming or VOD or DVD films. These must have received their FIRST release in any territory via home media and in 2018. If it screened at film festivals or in a city that you don't live in, then it's not eligible.

(Yes, the rules are stricter for direct-to-LCD than for real films. If you have a strong opinion about this, it's probably wrong, but feel free to derail the thread with it anyway. Best-case scenario though, voters get an extra chance to rep something that folks might not have heard about, and we get some data to help decide whether we should remove the walls in the future.)


You can vote for up to your top TEN new-to-you older films seen in calendar 2018 - on a TV, via rep screenings or restorations or Fathom Events or TCM Presents revivals or w/e. This probably won't produce any results worth reporting, if people even do ballots, but it'll be fun if they do.


You can also vote for the FIVE worst new-release-somewhere films from 2018.


Side polls are not mandatory; ignore them totally if they don't seem like fun. Also don't overthink 'em if you do answer any of them.

Oh, yay!!!

And just a reminder that Josephine Decker's top-three worthy Madeline's Madeline should still be on MUBI in most territories.

great job of picking the worst possible month for me.

i've had Madeline's Madeline out of the library for 4-6 weeks and sooooooo don't wanna watch it.

wow I actually came up with ten films!

Morbs I'm a tasteless idiot but Madeline's Madeline is the best movie I've ever seen imo

also it appears i'm moving next month, it seems, so i might as well give you ten now

Excellent! Made a list ages ago so I'll send it later this week.

I made a list in early May but I may hang on to my ballot for 2-3 weeks in case I see a last few.

same as, Ive a list ready to go but a month gives me leeway to watch a few more films

I'm more than happy to make the voting period shorter if people are raring to go

Madeline's Madeline should still be on MUBI in most territories

Also on Kanopy and Bezos Prime.

great job of picking the worst possible month for me.

I thought that was January February March April and May

Good news anyway, i was half wondering whether we'd done this and I'd forgotten

Haha I very much do not have a list ready to go, I don’t really keep track of the films I watch and 2018 was so long ago. If we’re gonna do “new to me” ballots I might actually start doing a viewing diary that I will then abandon after a month, sounds fun!

I saw Shoplifters today. That probably belongs in a top 35.

How old is the new to you older films ballot criteria i.e.is it anything pre 2018?

That’s how I interpreted it

anything that you don't count as eligible for the main poll

exciting! have a list ready to go but happy to wait a bit

WHAT IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE MAIN POLL?

Anything that screened in a cinema presentation in 2018.

What if I really liked a film that placed in 2016, but didn't screen in Europe until 2018?

Go ahead and vote for it. Feel free to campaign in this thread.

What if something only came out in Canada on DVD and in March 2019, but showed at film festivals in Bucharest and Hobart in 2018?

"Zama was high on my ballot this year but after seeing how low it placed I'm definitely voting for it again next year"

What if I really liked something that won last year, but didn't see it until January 2018?

Death Of Stalin didn't come out in the US until March 2018.

What if I saw the only existing nitrate print of a 1932 silent in a single museum screening in 2018? Is that eligible?

The Other Side Of The Wind isn't from 2018 per se and was completed for Netflix, but it did show at the Virginia Film Festival, so...

36.15 code Père Noël came out in 1989 but didn't have a US release of any kind until one festival and a limited theatrical run for Christmas 2018, does that count?

Paddington 2 didn't come out in the US until 2019 and I didn't see it until after the ILX pol-

Twin Peaks was especially ruled eligible last year because of one screening at MOMA but that didn't actually happen until January.

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Three and a half weeks isn't long enough for me to get my ballot together, can you extend it?

I don't go to movies, but I have a REALLY big TV, and I liked that one doco on an app where the guy talked about sucking dick for Evian.

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Oh man thanks for reminding me to vote for zama and that twin peaks is a 2018 theatrical release. What a year for cinema

So did the five months mean Infinite Football got a wide release?

I’m wondering how to vote for Twin Peaks: The Return. It really feels to me like it’s from 2017. There were two spoiler threads that followed it as it was streamed that year, together comprising 10,000+ posts! I wish I had been a part of those threads, they are among my favorites on ILX ever, but I didn’t watch it until 2018 when it was released on dvd.

I don’t even know if it’s a film per se but it ranks near the very top of my favorite viewing experiences of this decade. I think I’m going to include it in my older films list, which is going to be hard to sort out since I watched a lot of older classic films for the first time last year

I like your WHAT IS ELIGIBLE post upthread, sic!

You can vote for it in both if that makes it easier

you Twin Peaks obsessives need a hosedown

lol

thought about watching Coco before voting; too busy watching Twin Peaks

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:22 (ten months ago)

:)

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stopped after 8 episodes, haven't been back

I also know it's a fucking TV show from 2017

I will instead vote for a TV show from '72 that premiered in US theaters in 2018. Expand your horizons.

https://www.criterion.com/films/29400-eight-hours-don-t-make-a-day

likely #1 tho:

https://www.criterion.com/films/29618-let-the-sunshine-in

Oh yeah, will definitely vote for Let the Sunshine In. And The Image Book.

I saw that one at moma like 2 weeks after the tp screening, all in one go :-)

TV show from 1980 that got a rep release in 2018 in the states, but which I will not be voting for because it’s bloody impossible to see here: PERSONAL PROBLEMS

I will instead vote for a TV show from '72 that premiered in US theaters in 2018. Expand your horizons.

Restored version of Eight Hours.. first screened in the UK in April 2017.

I remember 2018...What a year.

I cannot vote for The Image Book as it is a 2019 US release.

"Loveless" is a '18 release, right?

P sure it was

Yep

Another one of my top five favorites is on MUBI right now. Shireen Senos 'Nervous Translation' is great.

y'all should watch this. one of my favourites from '18

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/sep/12/michael-inside-review-frank-berry-dafhyd-flynn

So, Cold Water counts, right?

yes

not for me, as i saw it in the mid '90s *polishes medal*

I hope to see the following on your ballots:

Claire’s Camera (Hong Sang-soon)
Zama (Lucrecia Martel)
Let the Sunshine In (Claire Denis)
You Were Never Really Here (Lynne Ramsay)
First Reformed (Paul Schrader).
Museo (Alonso Ruizpalacios)
Burning (Lee Chang-dong)
Monrovia, Indiana (Frederick Wiseman)
Ava (Sadaf Foroughi)
Sollers Point (Matthew Porterfield)
1985 (Yen Tan)
Leave No Trace (Debra Granik)

I missed Monrovia when it played here... I wish there was a way to see Wiseman movies other than buying the DVDs from Zipporah. It'd be one thing if he had like 10 movies but how many are there... 40?

I'm voting for The Image Book even though I saw it in 2019 and I'm also voting for Let the Sunshine In even though I voted for it in the last poll. thanks for the Fassbinder reminder Morbs, I could only come up with 9 films last night, I will include that one (screened here last summer but I didn't see it until a couple weeks ago).

all of the Wiseman films up through Ex Libris (not Monrovia) are on Kanopy, flappy bird

41 films total

oooh awesome thanks for the heads up!

If we're campaigning, I hope people find space for:

24 Frames (Abbas Kiarostami)
Hale County This Morning, This Evening (RaMell Ross)
Support the Girls (Andrew Bujalski)
The Green Fog (Guy Maddin, Evan Johnson, Galen Johnson)
Did You Wonder Who Fired The Gun? (Travis Wilkerson)

I watched Did You Wonder Who Fired The Gun? at home on Monday. I like it, but think it's a little overaestheticized (makes sense that it was initially done as a live multimedia event).

24 Frames I was rather disappointed in. That's an installation.

Support the Girls is on my list of things to watch before voting.

I would point people towards Private Life, Happy as Lazzaro, Upgrade and 1985 (hi, Alfred!).

24 Frames hit me, as almost all Kiarostamis do, right in the root of my spinal cord. They're ASMR in movie form.

(And a great deal more than that, obviously, but this one allowed me the chance to put that aspect to the forefront.)

yes 24 Frames is my #3. seeing it in a huge theater definitely helped, not sure how it would go over at home, I could barely stick with Shirin.

I don't understand the praise for Support the Girls at all. Didn't dislike it but such a wispy nothing of a movie.

will back up alfred on claire's camera, and say dead souls over anything mentioned thus far

cocote is also worth checking out

and Western, among others

https://www.filmcomment.com/best-films-of-2018/

First reformed will win I think

Won’t be surprised if Mandy, favourite, burning right up there. Won’t be mad either. Def voting for Claire’s camera, zama, let the sunshine in

I’ll be voting for four on Alfred’s list

Oh another cpt obv pick I will rep for is hereditary if that’s 18

wd also point to

Bisbee '17
The Guardians
Amazing Grace (ran in NYC for a week in December)

and First Man

I’m gonna keep throwing out notable films from last year as they come to me otherwise I’ll forget: Arcadia, wild boys

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xpost

and First Man

: Arcadia, wild boys

I like "Goodbye is Forever"

lol that was not deliberate

No ones mentioned COLD WAR yet

More like COLD BORE!

(Just kidding, I liked it fine.)

y'all should vote for Skate Kitchen

Cold Snore more like. Viewers sure live heterosexual, apolitical love stories!

Films on my ballot:
5/10 teens
4/10 lesbians
(some overlap)

/Cold Snore/ more like. Viewers sure live heterosexual, apolitical love stories!

More like mold poor

I liked it a lot

It was alright

For an old chore

OK not feeling the love for Cold War

What about BROS: AFTER THE SCREAMING STOPS? Comedy of the year, hands down

I deleted it from my 2018 long list bcz I thought it was TV-only, but it had a festival screening and a one-day release - back on, baby

a film I've been meaning to watch is Ali Abbasi's Border, has anyone seen it?

heard from a friend that when the bros film screened at lff, the brothers themselves paid for it to have a red carpet entrance

Border (Gräns) is going to be very high on my ballot

Xpost They are a pair of David Brent-esque wallys but something totally endearing about them at the same time

one of the entries on that Film Comment list is Personal Problems, a collaboration between Ishmael Reed and Bill Gunn, shown at the Pompidou in 1980 and then lost until its release in NY in 2018. It’s an experimental soap opera that is very loose and intimate. I’m not sure what to make of it, I didn’t think it was a masterpiece but Iiked it, it’s a look at the lives of a couple and their friends living in Harlem in 1980

Yeah, I liked it too. But it really is TV and was broadcast in New York back then, so I think it belongs to 1980.

don't have much else to say about 2018 film at the moment except that in my opinion Zama and Burning are really it

xp couldn't you say the same for Eight Hours Don't Make a Day? I mean I'm voting for it either way

1) 8H had never been shown in the US.

2) It was shot on film and looks like cinema. Personal Problems was shot on low-grade video and looks it.

These all previously mentioned would def on my ballot:

Zama (Lucrecia Martel)
Let the Sunshine In (Claire Denis)
Burning (Lee Chang-dong)
Monrovia, Indiana (Frederick Wiseman)
Leave No Trace (Debra Granik)
Support the Girls (Andrew Bujalski)
Bisbee '17
Border
Shoplifters
Hereditary
Paddington 2

The rest are either already in my to watch list or they are now... thanks for the recommends!

as long as we're aiming for votes, allow me to also rep for the rest of my top picks (with bonus "where can you stream em" parenthetical!) :
The Road Movie (Amazon)
The Rider (Starz)
Eighth Grade (Amazon)
Minding the Gap (Hulu)
Thunder Road (Amazon)

Here's my next-to-watch list with same streaming info for US viewing:

A Quiet Place (Amazon)
First Reformed (Amazon)
You Were Never Really Here (Amazon)
Generation Wealth (Amazon)
Unsane (Amazon)
The Great Buddha+ (Amazon)
A Prayer Before Dawn (Amazon)
Lots of Kids, A Monkey and A Castle (Amazon)
Western (Amazon)
John McEnroe: In the Realm of Perfection (Amazon)
Let the Corpses Tan (Amazon)
Madeline’s Madeline (Amazon)
Cold War (amazon)
Loveless (Amazon)
A Fantastic Woman (Amazon)
Suspiria (Amazon)
Sollers Point (Amazon)
The Guardians (Amazon)
Ava (Amazon)

Tully (HBO)
The Tale (HBO)
Jane Fonda in Five Acts (HBO)
Deadpool 2 (HBO)
The Meg (HBO)
BlacKkKlansman (HBO)
Crazy Rich Asians (HBO )
Won’t You Be My Neighbor (HBO)

Happy as Lazzarro (Netflix)
Roma (Netflix)
Ballad of Buster Scruggs (Netflix)
The Bleeding Edge (Netflix)
Filmworker (Netflix)
The Dawn Wall (Netflix)
The Other Side of the Wind (Netflix)
We the Animals (Netflix)
Black Panther (Netflix)
Ant Man and the Wasp (Netflix)
Bird Box (Netflix)
They’ll Love Me When I’m Dead (Netflix)
Solo (Netflix)
What Still Remains (Netflix)

Did You Wonder Who Fired the Gun? (Kanopy)
In Between (Kanopy)
Nancy (Kanopy)
I Am Not a Witch (Kanopy)

Love After Love (Hulu)
Grace Jones: Bloodlight and Bami (Hulu)
The Sisters Brothers (hulu)

Have a Nice Day (shudder)
Mandy (shudder)

1985 - https://vimeo.com/174131804

Not Yet Streaming:
Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
Vice
Hale County This Morning This Evening
Night Is Short, Walk on Girl
Mission Impossible: Fallout
Blaze
Thoroughbreds
Bodied
Silence of Others
On Her Shoulders
Ryuichi Sakamoto: Coda
Liyana
A Bread Factory
Big Fish and Begonia
Amazing Grace
Gavagai
Searching
Museo (YouTube)
24 Frames
Claire’s Camera
The Green Fog

I already mentioned my main issue with personal problems way upthread, viz I can’t bloody watch it 😡

At least half of forks' Amazon picks are also on Kanopy, for general reference, as is the Grace Jones doco

2) It was shot on film and looks like cinema. Personal Problems was shot on low-grade video and looks it.

https://www.pastposters.com/cw3/assets/product_full/(JamieR-BX)__Tadpole(1).jpg

24 Frames and Claire’s Camera are available on the Criterion Channel. Vice, Mission Impossible: Fallout, Searching, and Thoroughbreds are available on netflix dvd for those who have a subscription. Hale County and Under the Silver Lake will be released to netflix dvd on 6/18

glad to hear on the criterion channel notes; wasn't aware they were posting stuff so quick these days.

i doun't get the Tadpole thing, sic, but one is aesthetically a long film, the other is not

Eight Hours is a TV show at the end of the day though, I don't know why CC banded the episodes together on their release, it is not a long film. Aesthetically it is cinematic but you could say the same for, idk, Atlanta or something. Even Girls. But Eight Hours was made for television and the 5 episodes aired separately in Germany. anyway I know it was new to USA in 2018 and it did screen in marathon sessions here. But this is slippy territory, no?

yes, so everyone make up their own rules, like everyone here always does.

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omg morbs gets it 😀

oh i've "gotten" this place for awhile

and as Chico Marx said, "I abject."

(voting Duck Soup)

i rarely see movies in their year of release but... i might be able to vote in this?

Do it!

well, I'm voting for Grand Illusion and The Tenant, Brad, so go or it.

maybe i'll vote for the emoji movie

yes, so everyone make up their own rules, like everyone here always does.

can't tell if this is approval or disapproval -- lol, never mind, idgaf

i rarely see movies in their year of release but... i might be able to vote in this?

― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, May 30, 2019 10:28 AM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah go for it, I found that there were 10 valid movies I liked, who cares if I haven't seen 90 more of them

a few people here usually

i keep forgetting to vote in ILM year-end polls just to fuck with them

If you're participating in a poll of the year's best films and you've seen only a handful of that year's movies, you shouldn't vote -- that's my argument fuiud

sic has set fair limits - stricter than I would have tbh - anyone who meets those limits is welcome imo

Emoji movie not eligible

😔

as far as worst films of 2018 go, for your consideration:

22 July
Blaze
Disobedience
Boy Erased
Beautiful Boy

I had these on my list.

my least fave nods from last year would go to:
Sorry To Bother You
Damsel
Mary and the Witch’s Flower
Bernard and Huey
Shirkers
If Beale Street Could Talk
Annihilation
Oscar Nominated Short Drama

fucked if i'm gonna watch green book in this life

it's honestly not bad if you watch it with the rest of the Farrelly Brothers oeuvre in mind

I thought Sorry to Bother You was the most overrated movie of the year but I loved the first half hour, totally fell apart after that

It never played here
Green book, beautiful boy, life itself were in a particular category of unseen 18 films that not only looked terrible but actually looked like joke movies, made up for a sketch or something

Really just talking about the trailers but green book was legit simple Jack-esque

Life Itself, like The Happening and The Wicker Man remake, was so unbelievably bad that it crossed over and became immensely enjoyable for me.

more of a 2019 release but i found hansen-love's maya excruciating

Blaze sucked? That’s too bad

Yeah, I was just about to watch that one.

my worst of '18 is probably the Norwegian-German Gavagai... a fave of both Richard Brody and the Danish Troll, as if I wasn't warned.

I'd like to be a contrarian and say that You Were Never Really Here was the worst movie I saw last year, but I somehow sat through all of Ready Player One.

Which is on the lower reaches of my top 24 list because I live to shove Spielberg down ILX's throat.

i'm with you on Sorry 2 Bother flappy

I generally only go and see films I think I'll like, but Suspiria, 3 Billboards and Downsizing were all big 2018 misses for me

Just the thought of a guadagnino 3 hour suspiria makes me crave an early night so I didn’t see it

I bet two of Ward's would have been strong contenders to place on a Worst list last year, due to US release dates

i will absolutely be voting for The Humanity Bureau as well as several other Cage movies (yeah spiderman and mandy aren't unpopular) and I urge you all to watch it and do the same (unless you truly have no stomach for a trainwreck, because it is one of those)

i've yet to watch his movie Between Worlds but I will and I doubt it won't make my list at this point too

I have at least three, maybe four 2018 Cage releases on my ballot

Sorry To Bother You was no 5 Million Ways To Kill A CEO, but I love its fifty-year-old debut-filmmaker GO FOR IT energy

i doun't get the Tadpole thing, sic, but one is aesthetically a long film, the other is not

shot on turn-of-the-century DV, looks like VHS

Eight Hours is a TV show at the end of the day though, I don't know why CC banded the episodes together on their release, it is not a long film. Aesthetically it is cinematic but you could say the same for, idk, Atlanta or something. Even Girls. But Eight Hours was made for television and the 5 episodes aired separately in Germany.

you'll never convince me that this wasn't a cinematic film that I saw in a university lecture hall as school holiday babysitting programming theatre

anyway I know it was new to USA in 2018 and it did screen in marathon sessions here. But this is slippy territory, no?

Twin Peaks didn't just leap into the high ranks of the poll last year bcz Gukbe made an exception for it: it was because lots of people thought it was wonderful, filmic, one of the best-realised expressions of its main creator's auteuric vision through his whole career, genuinely one of the best viewing experiences of the year, and worth voting for despite in no way being intended to watch in one 18-hour stretch.*

People who saw them might vote for Eight Hours Don't Make or Personal Problems this year, or they might not. I strongly doubt that there will be enough of them that we need to, say, handwring over the fact that one episode of the new Twilight Zone is having a single festival screening this week in a converted-to-B&W version, and therefore we're opening a floodgate that will fill next year's poll with CBS All Access streaming episodes.

As someone who gets ludicrously pissy legitimately frustrated with Americans people starting single-choice button polls about musical albums without the correct tracklisting, I'm fine saying that the looseness of ballot polls is a feature not a bug, consensus surprises in results are enormous fun, yes you'll be throwing your vote away, but it's preferential ballots, so you still have 34 more, and we're just a handful of dickheads pissing about on a message board. There are no grand standards being threatened even if one person votes for a Breaking Bad episode with good cinematography.

If you're participating in a poll of the year's best films and you've seen only a handful of that year's movies, you shouldn't vote -- that's my argument fuiud

I never used to vote because not enough good / foreign / arthouse films get released in Australia at all in the C21st; now that I know how impossible it is to even vaguely keep up with what's available in the US, I'm all for anyone who really liked ten movies out of what they saw in a year backing their own judgement.



as far as worst films of 2018 go, for your consideration:

reminder that "worst" covers Netflix as well as cinema releases

* respect knux to anyone who did shotgun the whole thing on DVD in 2018. knux withdrawn if you took toilet breaks during the Roadhouse songs: pissing between disc changeover ONLY

I enjoy that I trolled morbs into watching Gavagai, because I have no idea what it is. Sorry Morbs. Unless by 'Danish troll' you mean LvT.

xp the roadhouse songs were among the best scenes!

i'm with you on Sorry 2 Bother flappy

it was better than Spike Lee's mysteriously Oscared cop show

haven't seen KKKlansman yet.
I'm a big fan of Boots; the movie just got away from him and fell apart in the second act then REALLY fell apart in the third act.

the equines were fine with me. even in the first act, the jokes weren't landing consistently.

I really liked the scene from Roma that you showed in the first post

then you wake up and see drool on your T-shirt.

lol

I know you guys aren't enamored with it but I think it was a lovely film and it's going to be high on my list

I still haven't seen Ash Is Purest White or Transit. It looks like both were put into limited release in the US in March 2019

also The Wild Pear Tree didn't released in the US until 2019

didn't = wasn't

Transit will be one of my 2109 faves for sure

It’s good to plan ahead.

okay, make that 2019 then.

On my "still to see" list culled from critic's faves, I have two that i haven't seen anyone discuss on ilx and that i can't find via streaming or even less reputable means. Anybody know anything about "Liyana" or "A Bread Factory"?

Roma barely avoided making my worst list. And it killed me to be on the same page as Soto In this case.

22 July was the only movie I found ethically repulsive this year, usually there's at least two

Funny thing is there was another film this year about the same day, 'Utøya: July 22' and it's even worse.

i've had Madeline's Madeline out of the library for 4-6 weeks and sooooooo don't wanna watch it.

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 19:13 (three days ago)

I started watching this last night and I lasted about 10 minutes. I turned it after the scene where shes dancing in a sea turtle costume. Insufferable.

Haven't seen enough terrible stuff to do a top5 worst of the year but I highly doubt anything mentioned here could be worse than Carol Morley's Out Of Blue.

Stuff I voted for that I fear won't get much shine: Simon Amstell's Benjamin, that Mark Cousins thing on female directors, the M.I.A. documentary.

I thought the first act in Ash Is Purest White was almost perfect, not so much the second and third ones - but still immensely enjoyed it overall.

So glad this is happening! I sent my ballot.

Everyone should try to see Zama (if it qualifies as 2018 for you), I Am Not a Witch (ditto), and Happy as Lazzaro before voting!

Happy as Lazzaro was kind of subtle I thought, it took a couple of viewings for me to appreciate. Both The Wonders and Happy as Lazzaro have a pastoral quality that I really like

not just in the settings but in the super-calm, relaxed style of filmmaking

I read that Rohrwacher in particular was really taken with Mati Diop's Atlantics as a member of the Cannes jury, I'm looking forward to seeing that film

Lazzaro reminded me of Pasolini

have been meaning to make my way through Pasolini's films, so far I've only gotten to his first film Accattone

disagree with all of you who disliked Suspiria. It was a beautiful film, visually and thematically

are we treating the mule (a good film people should watch) as an 18 or 19 release?

limited US release in Dec '18 good enough for me

repping double eastwood, triple hong

i saw it on 12/30/18

ending the year on a high

well i saw The Thin Man on 35mm on NYE but The Mule was surprisingly okay. at least compared to Sully, the last Clint movie I saw, which was dysfunctional on every level.

. (Michael B)
Posted: 31 May 2019 at 08:35:12
i've had Madeline's Madeline out of the library for 4-6 weeks and sooooooo don't wanna watch it.

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 19:13 (three days ago)

I started watching this last night and I lasted about 10 minutes. I turned it after the scene where shes dancing in a sea turtle costume. Insufferable.

I was unsure of it at this stage but nah. It’s extraordinary

And just a reminder that Josephine Decker's top-three worthy Madeline's Madeline should still be on MUBI in most territories.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I would vote for it next year at near the bottom of the list, or maybe not at all. Its a passably interesting film around issues of mental health, race. It starts a conversation around how to film mental health issues but a lot of it just doesn't land. Decker's film is often good, just wish the story was better than the goings on in a theatre group. The contours of the relationship between the director of the group and Madeleine weren't sketched out as much as I wanted to. Then again this is a film that avoids conversation (perhaps that's part of the point as the film is often seen from Madeline's POV), but that does leave gaps.

I love to see these polling, especially The Heiresses

Touch Me Not (Pintile, 2018)
Elephant Sitting Still (Hu Bo, 2018)
The Heiresses (Marcelo Martinessi, 2017)

Madeline's Madeline is even worse than i'd feared. Cinematic diverticulitis.

as far as films about a youngster's pov, got much more out of nervous translation

I like the rivette I’ve seen so I guess I’m just not that put off by annoying theatre troupes. The “gaps” are part of the film’s impact for me, there was a v deliberate strategy with the direction I felt (which involved putting a lot of trust in the performers, and I liked how the film dramatised the risk involved in this w the director character); as I said above I was a bit wary that it would be 90 minutes of cat/sea turtle but I had a rare emotional response to this movie!

(film critic after watching a movie that features some neon lighting)
this movie is absolutely nuts, like an acid trip slathered in meth, a delirious dive off the edge, a kaleidoscopic extravaganza that must be experienced to be believed, a phantasmagoric descent into the void

— Nick Usen (@nickusen) May 19, 2019

otm lol

are we going to do a best movies of the decade poll this time next year?

I should send in my ballot, I considered checking out Zama but was put off by a friend's description, "it's a secret horror movie," pass

as far as films about a youngster's pov, got much more out of nervous translation

― devvvine, 9. juni 2019 20:02 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Both will definitely be in my top ten, perhaps top five.

lol xp

Have you seen any other Martel? Zama is way up there for me, you should def check it out. I mean people can randomly call almost anything a secret horror movie

Zama's top-5 for me, a black comedy with a bleak punchline.

"secret horror movie" isn't a real thing, like if there's a zombie or a dracula or a ghost or whatever in the movie it's never a surprise tbqh

and yeah Zama's good, gratitude @ my friend who got me to go see it with him

some ppl were like "Phantom Thread is a horror movie" which is obviously wrong, it is a rom com

Zama is a neon lit.. it's a very very fine movie.

lol, first thing I think of from that tweet is p badshaw's 5 star review of gaspar noe's enter the void or some other git on that awful dross holy motors. but then i guiltily think of my own clownish hyperbolic bullshit that i've conveniently wiped from my memory over all sorts of other noisy dross over the years!

That tweet is so me it’s kind of a miracle I don’t like refn bollox much more than I do tbh

reminded me of the 90 minutes i spent waiting for mandy to end

My number one will shock you

My number one won't, lol

It's a secret horror movie! Danger lurks anywhere on the football court, and only one man is brave enough to change the rules.

see zama dude, it's great

Ok I’ve been swayed, I will check it out. I haven’t seen any other Martel but have heard great things about La Cineaga in particular.

I don't think it's great, but it's certainly worth consideration

ONE WEEK TO VOTE

will keep that in mind

No more catching up! Only shaping your longlists!

sez you

Alright, you can watch ONE MORE FILM tonight. But then get ranking!

but i'm busy tonight

make sure you all find a spare eight hours to watch dead souls

All done :) Its up there.

(I sent mine last week btw.)

but i'm busy tonight

you can write-in vote for a dream you have, but only between #30 and #35

Yeah, Dead Souls is a must. As is La Flor.

Feel free to skip last year's Lav Diaz, though.

neither been released in the US as yet, so stay in your ivory theater

xp

you're at your most Dar-RILL in these poll threads, aintcha?

xp yeah, La Flor opens in the US this August and Dead Souls only had a limited showing at NY Anthology FIlm Archives last December as far as I know

the hardest part of organizing a ballot for me will be the 'new-to-you' older films from prior years, I watched so many classic films for the first time in 2018

Sent!

I do make that older films list in January bcz it's self-limiting

limiting my new-to-you list to actual cinema screenings to narrow it down a little

I did the same thing

any roma talk really did just disappear as soon as award season ended, only remembered it existed when i was trying to work out where the pic at the top was from

It did. And I'm fine with that.

ballot sent

i voted!

will watch what some have called "the most impressive directorial debut by an actor since Night of The Hunter" before i vote

Oh god, that blurb. I'd settle for the "least embarrassing directorial debut by an actor since Lady Bird." Maybe.

lol what’s that for, eighth grade?

not gonna even ask if that was for Jonah Hill

we need til Monday

a star is born, have not seen either of the latter either

voted

didn't get around to Zama but I did watch La Cienaga the other night and wow, not my thing at all

more like ZZZZZama, amirite?

can now confirm that a star is born is not as good as dead souls

better than cold war tho

Martel can take some getting used to; Zama is a *little* more plotty tho

I didn't mind the pace, I just cannot get into body horror. I'll check out Zama and keep plugging away with the rest. I thought a lot of the composition in La Cineaga was striking.

after seeing La Ciénaga, The Holy Girl and The Headless Woman I was primed for another film by Lucrecia Martel

I hope some people are voting for Hale County This Morning, This Evening

there's no body horror in Zama (which is not to say there's no bodily injury)

it is maybe more abstract than her previous films but there is so much to contemplate with it

Are ballots due by Friday or on Friday? I just found out I have to be on the road tomorrow so that only leaves Friday morning to squeeze in one more movie (probably Shoplifters].

I loved Shoplifters! thank you for reminding me to vote for it!

amazed you are all so all organized about your 2018 favorites. I feel like I will forget something and won't realize it until the results are rolled out

You should watch Shoplifters, so deadline is 19:00 PDT Friday / noon Saturday AEST / 3am Saturday BST.

7 o'clock pm california time friday, I will have my ballot in by then

Does ballot have to be weighted? Will it mess things up to have an unweightes or mixed ballot?

'unweighted'

Votes are weighted. Please send your lists with your TOP choice at the TOP, but do not number your choices. (It's a ballache for formatting.)

Yeah, saw that, thanks.

ballot sent!

just sent mine, too

Gonna send after lunch.

sic, is AEST what i think it is? just tell me when (I can't do one before tonight)

Voted

tt and i have voted. no internet videos this time, although my ballot is as usual a lovely reduction of hers (with the same #1, which sic would be doing very well to exclude)

excited to read that!

I guess there are a couple more hours to vote? looking forward to seeing the results

I have until noon tomw, is that it?

lol

OK, sent

no rewatching done

Paddington 2 didn't come out in the US until 2019

untrue

dnw

sorry to break any rules but I included something on my ballot that only had an opening in Hong Kong in 2018

but it appeared on the Criterion Channel and was so beautiful I had to vote for it

goddammit, I am now sending a revised ballot bcz I forgot two titles.

sic, you are a hardass

sent!

i voted paddington 2

it's fucking great!

there are four ladies watching Fleabag in my living room so if anyone needs an extra hour or two, I’m going to start tallying but won’t get finished tonight

ALL VOTERS HAVE RECEIVED CONFIRMATION EMAILS. If you voted and haven't received an affirmation or a question, please submit again.

There will be no Best Streaming results, as only one ballot was received. Take that, The Future!

If anyone missed the vote and can get a MAIN ballot in by tomorrow afternoon, RUSH RUSH RUSH! I'll prepare the other side results before I get crunching on the tough numbers.

Everyone who voted Paddington 2 last year and didn't vote again for US release (2018, apologies for typo above): as long as you didn't use all 35 slots this year*, I should assume you want it slotted in, yeah?

* sorry, one prior bear voter who did use all slots

plz slot the elephant film on to everyone's ballots

(Any other last-minute additions can seriously be made to the bottom of anyone's ballot in the next 14 hours: no re-ordering available.)

there are four ladies watching Fleabag in my living room so if anyone needs an extra hour or two, I’m going to start tallying but won’t get finished tonight

― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Saturday, 22 June 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Get the ladies to do the count so you can get through an 8 hr Lav Diaz film. Live a little.

Do whatever it takes to give the bear more points.

Not sure that you deserve it tbh :(

voting for bear film again next year. and year after that. we all need a bit of bear film to lighten up our lifes.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, July 25, 2018 4:54 PM (ten months ago)

voting for elephant film again next year. and year after that. we all need a bit of elephant film to ruin our lifes.

8 hour Diaz was 2017. 2018 Diaz was not good.

I forgot to vote for the bear this year :(

It's okay, I already updated your ballot.

I did laugh because that 2018 Diaz film just got on mubi yesterday.

Thanks, sic!

Also, now that I think about it, the eight hour Diaz was 2016, it's just that I saw it in 2017. Sorry.

Elephant film in lead for worst of this year

Are we talking about an elephant sitting still or burtons dumbo

I’ve seen neither

i suspect we are both talking about the former

Oh I guess dumbo was this year? They’re really churning this waste out eh

TALLYING COMPLETE

I think I caught everything misspelled or missing half the title, but if not, it's on the voter.

Several films I was looking forward to finding images for have fallen outside the top 50.

If we were extending out to everything that needed two votes to qualify (ie 36 points), the lowest rank would be 72. The very lowest double-vote-receiver ranked at 88, with 14 points. The lowest triple-vote-receiver is at 83, with 33 points.

good job sic

thank you for everything sic. looking forward to this, bear film or no bear film.

counterpoint: thank you only if it includes the bear film

we gettin' rollout?

I Just Wanted To Take Another Look At You - the 2018 ILX Film Poll Results Thread

if i'd seen it time minding the gap, would've been very high on my ballot. beautiful film