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some discussion of ctrl-shift-fake's work on the shining thread but his newest video (and the furthering/public access to the tech) suggest a dedicated thread's time has come
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeRITLly_Kc

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 1 September 2019 20:54 (five years ago)

The Stallone Terminator 2 one was pretty inspired

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 September 2019 20:56 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5AWhh6MYCg

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 1 September 2019 20:58 (five years ago)

also a good thread to discuss how this is going to destroy the world

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 1 September 2019 20:59 (five years ago)

deep fakes are the perfect weapon, soon anyone can claim something was deep faked and anyone can claim they are being deep faked.

omar little, Sunday, 1 September 2019 21:09 (five years ago)

why didn't he just leave the audio alone, the terrible dubbed in lines are an awful distraction

forever and ever ramen (rip van wanko), Sunday, 1 September 2019 21:57 (five years ago)

Technology to counter deepfakes is already pretty far along

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 September 2019 22:05 (five years ago)

nobody will be fooled by deepfakes, they'll just be used as justification

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 1 September 2019 22:39 (five years ago)

In case you haven't heard, #ZAO is a Chinese app which completely blew up since Friday. Best application of 'Deepfake'-style AI facial replacement I've ever seen.

Here's an example of me as DiCaprio (generated in under 8 secs from that one photo in the thumbnail) 🤯 pic.twitter.com/1RpnJJ3wgT

— Allan Xia (@AllanXia) September 1, 2019

Simon H., Monday, 2 September 2019 09:00 (five years ago)

online dating is over

imago, Monday, 2 September 2019 09:08 (five years ago)

silver linings

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2019 09:23 (five years ago)

nobody will be fooled by deepfakes, they'll just be used as justification

― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 1 September 2019 22:39 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Not sure about the first part. Over time it will get harder and harder to trust visual evidence of anything you didn't witness firsthand, and people will find new ways to cope or they won't. Deepfakes don't need to fool people 100%, they just need to be good enough so that someone can stand up and say it's real and some real footage is fake.

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 2 September 2019 10:01 (five years ago)

The more garbage is in the data stream, the more the entire contents of the stream becomes unusable for anything.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 2 September 2019 15:31 (five years ago)

...

forever and ever ramen (rip van wanko), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:03 (five years ago)

The more garbage is in the data stream, the more the entire contents of the stream becomes unusable for anything.

― A is for (Aimless), Monday, September 2, 2019 11:31 AM bookmarkflaglink

Are these Rush lyrics

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:27 (five years ago)

Deepfakes don't need to fool people 100%, they just need to be good enough so that someone can stand up and say it's real and some real footage is fake.
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, September 2, 2019 5:01 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i mean that's kind of what i'm saying, consensus reality is already eroded. their real utility doesn't come from 'tricking' people but to give partisans or bad actors permission to do or say what they were going to anyway

global tetrahedron, Monday, 2 September 2019 19:14 (five years ago)

the only solution is Veritt

Veritt.com authentication code: 4824702

i am also larry mullen jr (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 September 2019 23:44 (five years ago)

The more garbage is in the data stream, the more the entire contents of the stream becomes unusable for anything.

A better William Gibson novel than that "what if Hillary won" thing he's working on.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 00:44 (five years ago)

The CEO of an energy firm based in the UK thought he was following his boss’s urgent orders in March when he transferred funds to a third-party. But the request actually came from the AI-assisted voice of a fraudster.

The Wall Street Journal reports that the mark believed he was speaking to the CEO of his businesses’ parent company based in Germany. The German-accented caller told him to send €220,000 ($243,000 USD) to a Hungarian supplier within the hour. The firm’s insurance company, Euler Hermes Group SA, shared information about the crime with WSJ but would not reveal the name of the targeted businesses.

Euler Hermes fraud expert Rüdiger Kirsch told WSJ that the victim recognized his superior’s voice because it had a hint of a German accent and the same “melody.” This was reportedly the first time Euler Hermes has dealt with clients being affected by crimes that used AI mimicry.

https://gizmodo.com/scammer-successfully-deepfaked-ceos-voice-to-fool-under-1837835066?rev=1567523821549&utm_medium=socialflow&utm_source=gizmodo_twitter&utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_twitter

I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 04:28 (five years ago)

Wait, does this mean I can use deepfake technology to finally realize my dream of performing Henry V entirely in Bane-voice?

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 04:43 (five years ago)

aw yeah tedtalk y'all
https://www.ted.com/talks/danielle_citron_how_deepfakes_undermine_truth_and_threaten_democracy

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 13 September 2019 13:53 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://deeptracelabs.com/mapping-the-deepfake-landscape/

Our research revealed that the deepfake phenomenon is growing rapidly online, with the number of deepfake videos almost doubling over the last seven months to 14,678. This increase is supported by the growing commodification of tools and services that lower the barrier for non-experts to create deepfakes. Perhaps unsurprisingly, we observed a significant contribution to the creation and use of synthetic media tools from web users in China and South Korea, despite the totality of our sources coming from the English-speaking Internet. Another key trend we identified is the prominence of non-consensual deepfake pornography, which accounted for 96% of the total deepfake videos online.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:14 (five years ago)

Seems to be a rule that every new trend on the web starts with porn.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:17 (five years ago)

not true! there was... um... no, well... okay you may have a point.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:18 (five years ago)

Another key trend we identified is the prominence of non-consensual deepfake pornography, which accounted for 96% of the total deepfake videos online

shocked it's not higher than 96% tbh

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 00:37 (five years ago)

the future is consensual deepfake pornography where people license their perfect bodies out for sex tapes with less attractive people's faces deepfaked onto them
Your Million Dollar Idea for Today

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 00:44 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rPKeUXjEvE&feature=youtu.be

tonga, Friday, 11 October 2019 20:46 (five years ago)

i was surprised there are relatively few of these videos around so far--they said like 14,000. i guess they're still hard enough to make.

treeship., Friday, 11 October 2019 21:15 (five years ago)

what in the

https://imgur.com/gallery/90y488u

StanM, Saturday, 12 October 2019 19:45 (five years ago)

dear god

NEWS Giant penis frog didn’t have a giant penis after all (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 12 October 2019 19:51 (five years ago)

The future is going to be a hellscape

circa1916, Saturday, 12 October 2019 23:46 (five years ago)

Lmfao

calstars, Sunday, 13 October 2019 00:30 (five years ago)

the present is already a hellscape so I don't know why you'd think the future would be any better

akm, Sunday, 13 October 2019 03:35 (five years ago)

one month passes...

this is dumb but surprising how convincing shit is with minimal effort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_6Tumd8EQI

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 21:13 (five years ago)

I hope the video looks more convincing than that screengrab

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 09:22 (five years ago)

Err... convincing ?

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 09:32 (five years ago)

The voices and faces look accurate. The gestures are really off. With some better acting and costume design this technology could be used to make a really convincing fake—and it has like jordan peele’s obama.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 November 2019 13:40 (five years ago)

Damn it !
https://i.imgur.com/mo3Sxcg.jpg

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 13:50 (five years ago)

emphasis perhaps less on "convincing" and "how convincing"
goalposts have shifted where absolute minimal effort makes something that might pass on first glance for a layperson

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 14:59 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

weird here in that i don't see bowie but i also really don't see rannels either... and if i didn't know it was a deepfake i don't think i'd notice the digital manipulation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjwOxPKJpaQ

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:26 (five years ago)

in much scarier news
https://analysis.leadstories.com/3471185-fake-faces-people-Who-Do-Not-Exist-Invade-Facebook-To-Influence-2020-Elections.html

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 19 December 2019 17:24 (five years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aau8qa3xgFs

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 19:06 (five years ago)

how did they do the fake keanu voice, wild

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 19:08 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bioP_2e_xls

wasdnuos (abanana), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 16:37 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OJnkJqkyio

nate woolls, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:27 (five years ago)

weird seeing young fox's voice coming out of holland's face

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:29 (five years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUfJOQKdtAk

mother of god

ban laggy jazzer (imago), Sunday, 29 March 2020 00:48 (five years ago)

awfully impressive; weird skull rippling tho.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 29 March 2020 00:56 (five years ago)

!!!

every ilxor would benefit from watching at least the first minute or two of that youtube. just so you know what's coming down the pike at us and how fast it is arriving. one photo is now all that is needed as a source for making a pretty darn good deepfake animation.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 29 March 2020 01:17 (five years ago)

keep in mind that the same is quickly becoming true with the audio side of things (one short vocal sample can be used to generate whatever you want that voice to say)

Karl Malone, Sunday, 29 March 2020 02:23 (five years ago)

check, please

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 29 March 2020 02:46 (five years ago)

Holy shit. Terrorism, school shootings, economic depression, pandemic, wars ... deep fakes are going to be the death of us, and I'm not even kidding. I don't know how they'd enforce it, but that shit should be illegal, like cloning or testing medicine on unsuspecting patients.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 March 2020 02:53 (five years ago)

Better living through continuous technological innovation and capital investment of accumulated surpluses!

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 29 March 2020 03:16 (five years ago)

this is what Crichton's Red Dawn was about

it was also dumb

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Sunday, 29 March 2020 03:54 (five years ago)

In Margaret Atwood's _Oryx and Crake_ you could pretty readily dial up pr0n of Abraham Lincoln and Anne Frank (forget the actual examples but it was similarly OTT).

I met a strange baby, she made me nervous (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 29 March 2020 14:04 (five years ago)

That stuff seems inevitable. But given the general ... gullibility of everyone, what's going to happen when there is a perfect deep fake of, say, the dumb asshole president saying something totally dangerous and horrible and yet still totally in character?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:02 (five years ago)

You mean that thing that was elected president is not a walking talking deepfake?

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:11 (five years ago)

Okay MAYBE he whips off the mask in October and it was a long-form Andy Kaufman joek all along.

Ha! Gotcha!

I met a strange baby, she made me nervous (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:13 (five years ago)

I'm trying (not that hard) to even imagine what a convincing Fake Trump would have to say for me to think, wait a minute, this can't be real, can it?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:22 (five years ago)

"I'm sorry"

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:24 (five years ago)

Seriously.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:27 (five years ago)

"I was wrong"

I met a strange baby, she made me nervous (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:30 (five years ago)

"President Obama had the right idea."

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:45 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDfLfOXPc1c

narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Sunday, 29 March 2020 17:10 (five years ago)

If I were some deep-thinking futurist type out to make a buck I'd write a solemn book about how the invention of photography, sound recording, radio, motion pictures and television represented the First Mediated Reality Revolution (nb: the capital letters are a requirement in such books), where for the first time humans could experience reality remotely and extend their senses to any part of the world. I'd blather on a bit about the wonder of all this (nb: it really was wonderous to those who lived through it). The upshot of the book would be that You Can't Trust the Media or Even Trust Your Own Eyes and Ears Any More.

But, absent such a bloviating book, all I can say is that we are definitely entering a new stage in fakery that is going to have widespread political and psychological repercussions. Thank goodness for Real Reality (tm) or we'd all go mad.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 29 March 2020 19:15 (five years ago)

imo the danger isn't so much that people will believe lies - you don't need deepfakes to disseminate lies - it's that they won't believe the truth

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 12:20 (five years ago)

^^that's already happening

people like my mom already tell me that they don't believe anything anymore. she told me last night, literally, that "we only trust our gut now"

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:20 (five years ago)

granted, she and my dad are 2 of the dumbest people i have ever met, and i say that as an insult to myself, knowing that i inherited their bottomless stupidity

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:21 (five years ago)

just remember the mantra: I'm dumb as hell, I accept it, and I will never learn

mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:24 (five years ago)

i don't think it's an intelligence issue. many forces in american society, over many decades, have taught people to feel this way--alone, suspicious of their neighbor, just atomized consumers.

treeship., Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:30 (five years ago)

trenchant

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:36 (five years ago)

granted, she and my dad are 2 of the dumbest people i have ever met, and i say that as an insult to myself, knowing that i inherited their bottomless stupidity


karl fwiw u are the smartest dumb guy i know

a struggle to make meat-snacking fit (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:38 (five years ago)

it's true though. we can all yet "trump voters" but they didn't spring up out of the ground like that

treeship., Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:39 (five years ago)

or whatever

treeship., Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:39 (five years ago)

my new theory: andy borowitz is a deepfake

mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:43 (five years ago)

I feel like a neural net could do better than that.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:47 (five years ago)

we only trust our gut now

So, a tube of bacteria and poop? okay

I met a strange baby, she made me nervous (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:52 (five years ago)

That's a fairly reductive way to refer to our president, however accurate it may be.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:53 (five years ago)

karl fwiw u are the smartest dumb guy i know
― a struggle to make meat-snacking fit (bizarro gazzara),

i would say thank you, but gotta keep eating this mud at the bottom of the ocean. *Scoooooooooooooooop, Scoooooooo*

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:06 (five years ago)

three months pass...

via Hoos, "thanks I hate it"

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyber-deepfake-activist-idUSKCN24G15E

sleeve, Monday, 20 July 2020 22:00 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

This single image source deepfakery is getting terrifying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d6coarzPsQ

Who will station the ox there? (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 15:41 (four years ago)

why would you share this

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 15:48 (four years ago)

Last year, deepfakery that climbed the uncanny valley required tons of source material, generally tens of thousands stills across multiple videos, that were matched to existing material of a real person, and then color matched for ambient light and fringed into the edges of the face. But when a single mug shot can be manipulated to come pretty close to convincing, its steps further from "movie actors and widely watched politicians can be manipulated in video", into "anyone who presents a single photo of themselves online or just to acquaintances, or from high quality surveilance can be manipulated in video". It just brings home awful potential that anyone whose ever had a mugshot, or posted pictures of themselves online, is providing a character actor that can be relatively easily manipulated, and this tech is going to progress and get better and we won't be able to trust anything again...

Who will station the ox there? (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 15:57 (four years ago)

this tech is going to progress and get better and we won't be able to trust anything again...

it will progress and get better, and yet we will adapt and still be able to trust people. when people started sending handwritten letters to each other, there were probably concerns about forgeries and how to figure out who actually wrote the letter (partially solved by a liquid seal). i don't know what the equivalent is for deepfakes, but we will muddle on as always.

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 16:02 (four years ago)

pretty sure you could have made that point without actually linking that particular incredibly creepy and not funny video my man xp

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 16:03 (four years ago)

a terrifying future where we wont be able to trust the internet

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 17:49 (four years ago)

Yeah I’m unconvinced deepfakes are a substantial step worse than photoshop

rob, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 17:51 (four years ago)

what does “block poster” do on zing?

brimstead, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 17:54 (four years ago)

what you want it to

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 17:56 (four years ago)

It will just mark a resurrection of the "I can tell by the pixels" argument.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 18:05 (four years ago)

and they'll know by our pixels
we are fake

popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 August 2020 03:53 (four years ago)

i can tell by your pixels that you've prob'ly been faking forever

neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 13 August 2020 06:48 (four years ago)

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 21:17 (four years ago)

I'm pretty stupid and for the first minute I thought Fred Sassy was just some old John Michael Higgins/Rip Taylor lookin rando

also, used to work with a lady who named her dog Sassy

also, my friend's mom named her shih tzus Chardonnay and Cherokee, but I always want to call Cherokee Cheyenne for some reason

also, fuck the noncentral geographic locations of state capitals Cheyenne, Sacramento, Carson City, and Tallahassee

the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 29 October 2020 02:38 (four years ago)

also, vagina poop

the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 29 October 2020 02:45 (four years ago)

Whut

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 October 2020 02:46 (four years ago)

you gotta watch the embedded youtube video before you comment hombre! that's how these internet message boards work these days

the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 29 October 2020 02:54 (four years ago)

I had a beagle named Sassy. She lived up to her name.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 29 October 2020 04:34 (four years ago)

okay the kushner
Serafinowicz and Trey Stone, eh? Surprised it hasn't blown up yet.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 29 October 2020 04:42 (four years ago)

it'll never blow up cause 1) no cute cartoon characters 2) City Wok guy = CANCELLED

the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 31 October 2020 05:27 (four years ago)

i honestly wish that were so

Nhex, Monday, 2 November 2020 15:03 (four years ago)

two months pass...

2018: Deepfakes could seriously destabilise global politics in the coming years and we should be alert to the dangers of disinformation spreading at a faster rate than ever before.

2021: …

pic.twitter.com/JLl8NgoQrA

— Pete Fraser (@petefrasermusic) January 15, 2021

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:26 (four years ago)

It's still pretty fakey. The mouth movements don't synch at all and are the vaguest kind of open-and-closings, the bodily motions aren't quite human, and the anatomy is weird. But if you're just giving it a barely-engaged glance, it's not glaringly bad. The song is entertaining, which helps.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:34 (four years ago)

A friend of mine posted something the other day about the inevitable and rapidly approaching need for some sort of independent verification certification or the like for images and videos.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:36 (four years ago)

surely some startup is getting funding for that as we speak, contracts on the way

aimless i gather you're unfamiliar with the SEA SHANTY MANIA sweeping the web

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:38 (four years ago)

Crichton's Rising Sun predicted the widespread use of this technology, as did an episode of the television series version of Weird Science

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:40 (four years ago)

Not to be confused with Misfits of Science.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:41 (four years ago)

guy on the right has some powerful style

brimstead, Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:42 (four years ago)

you are correct. I know not this mania. but I predict it won't last. because there aren't enough really good ones and eventually they all sound the same.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:43 (four years ago)

https://southstreetseaportmuseum.org/chanteysing/

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 16 January 2021 05:12 (four years ago)

adobe is working on a standard certification for photos, dunno if it’ll take off

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 January 2021 09:18 (four years ago)

what about a standard certification for sea shanties?

ledge, Saturday, 16 January 2021 09:43 (four years ago)

you laugh, but

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 January 2021 10:00 (four years ago)

The leisure songs associated with sailors are labeled simply as "sea songs," but they have no consistent formal characteristics. They are also popularly known among enthusiasts, especially when distinguishing them from shanties, as fo'c's'le songs or forebitters.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 January 2021 10:08 (four years ago)

I’m just watching it from my phone bu it looks like a GTA cut scene or something.. agree w/aimless though, it’s a good tune.

brimstead, Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:37 (four years ago)

i don't think it will stick around past the month but there's a TON of thought pieces on sea shanty tiktok and how to spell it

https://www.vulture.com/2021/01/tiktok-sea-shanties-explained.html
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-delights-of-sea-chantey-tiktok
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/style/sea-shanty-tiktok-wellerman.html
https://www.npr.org/2021/01/16/957593535/why-sea-shanties-have-taken-over-tiktok
https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-sea-shanties/

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 16 January 2021 20:04 (four years ago)

also, if you're unfamiliar with it, the picture itself is a UK meme
https://thetab.com/uk/2020/06/10/we-spoke-to-the-boys-in-this-picture-and-theyve-had-enough-of-your-jokes-161026

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 16 January 2021 20:05 (four years ago)

(so to be completely clear, i wasn't - and i don't think the original poster was either - putting this up as a sign of how far deepfakes have come, just that they're still in the state of being used more for shitposting than for overthrowing the government)

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 16 January 2021 20:06 (four years ago)

cmon nyer fact checkers - shanties are sung “unison”?? sheesh

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:13 (four years ago)

also, if you're unfamiliar with it, the picture itself is a UK meme
https://thetab.com/uk/2020/06/10/we-spoke-to-the-boys-in-this-picture-and-theyve-had-enough-of-your-jokes-161026🕸

deepfaked names:
Connor Humpage

partyin' maskless with Rudy G. and Vanilla Ice, it's a gas gas gas (breastcrawl), Sunday, 17 January 2021 08:35 (four years ago)

one month passes...

Disconcertingly real Tom Cruise deepfakes on TikTok:

I need to know if @TaylorLorenz is aware of the Tom Cruise tiktoks pic.twitter.com/An7AV430AF

— Brian Kosciesza (@BrianKosh) February 25, 2021

... (Eazy), Friday, 26 February 2021 06:11 (four years ago)

you just know this is going to be misused for evil/political purposes and "oh yeah? prove it isn't you" etc

StanM, Friday, 26 February 2021 07:04 (four years ago)

Deep Nostalgia, a new thing from genealogy site My Heritage, which 'animates' old family photos using some kind of deep fake-esque tech.

https://www.myheritage.com/deep-nostalgia

The second question in their FAQ is amusing...

"This technology is fascinating but a bit uncanny, don't you think?"

"Some people love the Deep Nostalgia™ feature and consider it magical, while others find it creepy and dislike it."

brain (krakow), Saturday, 27 February 2021 13:06 (four years ago)

yike

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 27 February 2021 13:56 (four years ago)

one vote for the creeps

Nhex, Saturday, 27 February 2021 17:36 (four years ago)

you just know this is going to be misused for evil/political purposes and "oh yeah? prove it isn't you" etc

― StanM, Friday, February 26, 2021 2:04 AM (yesterday)

In a world where a significant number of people believe the moon landing was faked, I don't think deepfakes are really cause for political* alarm. Photoshop and CGI didn't usher us into a hyperreal nightmare where we're constantly being deluded by fake images. If I've learned one thing from the past few years, it's that lies don't need to be partic convincing for lots of people to believe them.

* meanwhile they have been used extensively to harass and exploit women

rob, Saturday, 27 February 2021 17:49 (four years ago)

I note that almost every source photo is not smiling, but the faked animation always has the subject look at the viewer and give a slight smile. The overall effect is of someone enjoying a private and intimate moment with you. Seems much too predictable to be a coincidence. That level of emotional manipulation of the viewer is creepier than the fact that the faces move somewhat realistically.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Saturday, 27 February 2021 17:55 (four years ago)

SOMEbody read Harry Potter

display names are for n00bs (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 27 February 2021 17:57 (four years ago)

I signed up to that my heritage thing, just to try it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl9mh8mvx4

Darin, Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:58 (four years ago)

^ very touching and a source of emotional comfort for you, I'm sure

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Sunday, 28 February 2021 00:01 (four years ago)

That

is horrifying. Thank you.

Chokeslamming A Memory (Old Lunch), Sunday, 28 February 2021 00:04 (four years ago)

I also plugged in one of the freaky photos from the cursed images thread, but the results were too awful to share.

Darin, Sunday, 28 February 2021 00:07 (four years ago)

we need a lot more of these please

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 28 February 2021 03:34 (four years ago)

lol

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 28 February 2021 04:09 (four years ago)

thanks, forks. <3

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 28 February 2021 04:09 (four years ago)

This is really weird stuff. pic.twitter.com/Wo6hlb8Aiv

— Harry McCracken (@harrymccracken) February 28, 2021

... (Eazy), Sunday, 28 February 2021 04:27 (four years ago)

Weird coincidence, I just came here to post this:

Frederick Douglass, the mighty abolitionist, was the single most photographed person in the United States during the nineteenth century. Here's how he might've looked in motion. Brace yourself and press play. pic.twitter.com/HOxDK7jGyh

— La Marr Jurelle Bruce (@Afromanticist) February 28, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 February 2021 17:28 (four years ago)

This technology might really take off if they're able to iron out that thing where it looks like the person has a school of jellyfish writhing under their skin every time their head moves.

Chokeslamming A Memory (Old Lunch), Sunday, 28 February 2021 17:39 (four years ago)

I think in this case it's not really animated, per se, but hundreds of photos of his face sort of stitched together into a simulation of motion, like a 3-D flip book.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 February 2021 17:41 (four years ago)

the douglass is very uncanny valley

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:33 (four years ago)

i think the myheritage thing i gonna blow up this week, nyt trend piece ahoy

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:33 (four years ago)

Really weird that MyHeritage of all companies beat Adobe or some other design/tech group to this.

Darin, Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:45 (four years ago)

Joseph Bloor lives! The most handsome man in Toronto history brought to life by this wild new #DeepNostalgia animation tool from MyHeritage... https://t.co/cQOXjVjDqg pic.twitter.com/QBzdlwxNfV

— Adam Bunch (@TODreamsProject) February 26, 2021

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 28 February 2021 22:17 (four years ago)

Okay, emerging market space: MyHeritage.com, but for dick pics

chillin' like Emperor Maximilian (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 1 March 2021 00:44 (four years ago)

That throb in all the wrong ways/places

Chokeslamming A Memory (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 March 2021 01:13 (four years ago)

"Damn, great-great-grandpa Jebediah was HUNG!"

chillin' like Emperor Maximilian (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 1 March 2021 01:28 (four years ago)

this new technology really is an amazing breakthrough in taking historical photos and making it look like the person is in an elevator awkwardly trying to avoid smalltalk

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 1 March 2021 01:43 (four years ago)

Yup. The animation adds movement to the photo, but they are completely empty and meaningless motions. They reveal nothing about the person that was not already in the photo. They just blink and strike slightly different poses.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Monday, 1 March 2021 01:56 (four years ago)

Okay, emerging market space: MyHeritage.com, but for dick pics

― chillin' like Emperor Maximilian (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, February 28, 2021 4:44 PM (three hours ago)

That throb in all the wrong ways/places

― Chokeslamming A Memory (Old Lunch), Sunday, February 28, 2021 5:13 PM (two hours ago)

Wait, did that dick smile at me?

nickn, Monday, 1 March 2021 03:54 (four years ago)

that fred douglass tweet has a whole bunch of others in the thread including this particularly uncanny one of a young Ida B Welles

pic.twitter.com/3UKOjBtLNu

— Queena (@luvscure1) February 28, 2021

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 March 2021 03:55 (four years ago)

anyways, as promised, this is blowing up
https://twitter.com/search?q=myheritage

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 March 2021 04:04 (four years ago)

Some of these are absolutely killing me

So I ran a film still of Nicolas Cage through MyHeritage's Deep Nostalgia thing. pic.twitter.com/y0kq0MtLIp

— Mark Yarm (@markyarm) February 28, 2021

Chokeslamming A Memory (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 March 2021 04:28 (four years ago)

this myHeritage thing is unquestionably one of the signs of the apocalypse pic.twitter.com/RxRZLUioEg

— Tony Corsentino (@corsent) March 1, 2021

Chokeslamming A Memory (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 March 2021 04:30 (four years ago)

The portraits with weird expressions perfectly illustrate how this software is simultaneously sophisticated, complex, shallow and perfunctory.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Monday, 1 March 2021 04:32 (four years ago)

this myHeritage thing is unquestionably one of the signs of the apocalypse

Still more lifelike than the real Pete though.

mirostones, Monday, 1 March 2021 04:35 (four years ago)

I did one of my late grandmother and it clicked so i called my mother and explained to her what this is and then asked if she wanted to see it and she was like why not? Then i hit send and waited on the phone for her to click through and i hear her scream OH MY GOD so I am afraid I just traumatized my mother.

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 March 2021 05:18 (four years ago)

i think the myheritage thing i gonna blow up this week, nyt trend piece ahoy

― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, February 28, 2021 9:33 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Already got a sore thumb just this weekend blocking everyone slinging this 'OMG LOOK AT THIS' into my tl ffs. The thinkpieces and longreads are being cranked out at top speed as we speak.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 1 March 2021 08:18 (four years ago)

xp The Good Son

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 1 March 2021 08:19 (four years ago)

every single one of these posted in the thread is making me lol irl

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 1 March 2021 20:34 (four years ago)

inevitably crashed

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 March 2021 20:56 (four years ago)

Good one:

Ran Donald Sutherland (from Invasion of the Body Snatchers, natch) thru Deep Nostalgia and it totally caught the creepiness of this technology... pic.twitter.com/yvHrnB3HXk

— 𝕊𝕥𝕒𝕟 đť•‹. 𝕄𝕒𝕟 (@swmerrell) March 1, 2021

Darin, Monday, 1 March 2021 21:52 (four years ago)

wombo is amusing

/r/paradolia + Wombo = My weekend plans pic.twitter.com/r0lkBODPbb

— David Eisner (@DavidGEisner) March 11, 2021

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 13 March 2021 00:05 (four years ago)

I’m uncomfortable @WOMBO pic.twitter.com/6FERAp2zyB

— (trsh) birschbox (@birschbox) March 11, 2021

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 13 March 2021 00:10 (four years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/22/european-mps-targeted-by-deepfake-video-calls-imitating-russian-opposition

Dutch MPs fell for it as well

Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 23 April 2021 22:34 (four years ago)

The poor resolution on video calls would explain in part why the prank wasn’t immediately apparent to the targets.

seems like a misguided word in this situation

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Friday, 23 April 2021 23:50 (four years ago)

two months pass...

you know what? fuck this

thanks I hate it https://t.co/xuRftW7p4y pic.twitter.com/f08wHXuroE

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) July 15, 2021

rob, Friday, 16 July 2021 13:49 (four years ago)

fuck

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 16 July 2021 14:11 (four years ago)

really awful

treeship., Friday, 16 July 2021 14:29 (four years ago)

We can have a documentary ethics panel afterward

If you want

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 July 2021 14:44 (four years ago)

Even worse, the director claimed that he checked with his widow and literary executor first and, uh:

I certainly was NOT the one who said Tony would have been cool with that. https://t.co/CypDvc1sBP

— Ottavia (@OttaviaBourdain) July 16, 2021

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 July 2021 14:48 (four years ago)

cool, we're only a few steps removed from Gotcha documentaries that intentionally make dead celebrities say things they actually never said to ruin their legacies.

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 July 2021 14:52 (four years ago)

kudos to Ottavia for shutting down the "it was blessed" lie

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 July 2021 14:52 (four years ago)

yeah im not a big expert on bourdain but he didnt strike me as a "please fake my voice" type of dude

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 16 July 2021 14:59 (four years ago)

Same and hopefully the lie sparks some real outrage about the technique in general. Frankly I don't think it would mitigate things to have gotten permission from survivors anyway. Like is this something to now specify in your will?

The director sounds like a total asshole tbrr: https://www.gq.com/story/anthony-bourdain-morgan-neville-roadrunner-documentary

In that context, I was little surprised by how much you decided to lean into drawing a parallel between his trip to the Congo and Apocalypse Now.

That story, to me, was about, Is he Willard or is he Kurtz? Is he the rational journalist? Or is he the one who has become the protagonist and gone insane? I feel like that’s the dialectic he wrestled with whether the story took place in the Congo or anywhere. I actually think that episode is one of the best depictions of life in central Africa that’s ever been on American television, but that’s the part I was leaning into and, yeah, it’s dancing up against some pretty racist tropes.

rob, Friday, 16 July 2021 15:02 (four years ago)

jesus christ

Tracer Hand, Friday, 16 July 2021 15:14 (four years ago)

It's kinda cool the way that technology has provided novel ways for total ghouls to violate the dead.

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 July 2021 15:26 (four years ago)

To rob's point, I'm glad this high profile example is getting pushback so publicly and vociferously right away so maybe it will help stem the tide of further ghouls attempting this stuff.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 July 2021 15:29 (four years ago)

i am cool with an ai version of my simulated voice living on after i'm dead, but i would like to produce the texts for it to speak right now while i'm still living

from now on, my life's work shall be my death's life

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 July 2021 15:58 (four years ago)

just point it to ilx tbh

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 16 July 2021 16:02 (four years ago)

that's true for all of us! hmmm

maybe this tech could specify certain years or decades that it should NOT draw upon for the text

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 July 2021 16:03 (four years ago)

ai is so smart and powerful now i'm sure it could be like, "hmmmm that sounds painful and awkward, imma skip that one"

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 16 July 2021 16:05 (four years ago)

If I were a famous public figure I would record tons of random footage/speeches/whatever to be used after I die, scenes for movies not yet written and so on. Heck, if Bruce Willis can record all his scenes in one day for boilerplate action movies, yet alone Yul Brynner for posthumous smoking PSAs, the sky is the limit. Like, whenever I was bored I'd record three minutes of myself talking about, I dunno, frogs or something and just add it to the pile. then after I die, if someone has a use for it and wants to pay my estate, go for it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 July 2021 16:06 (four years ago)

the painful ai rejection

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 July 2021 16:06 (four years ago)

xp josh if i understand correctly, bruce willis wouldn't even have to record him saying his scenes. they could just take the boilerplate action movie text and apply the voice of bruce willis to it.

"get in the car!"
"i'm fine"
"he's getting away!"
"fuck!"

bruce willis is sitting pretty right now in other words

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 July 2021 16:08 (four years ago)

the question is, would bruce's literary executor sign off on it

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 16 July 2021 16:15 (four years ago)

*voice of bruce's literary executor, formless but clearly heard in surround sound*

"yes, the willis estate hereby signs off on that"

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 July 2021 16:16 (four years ago)

Yeah, but Bruce could sell official, verified posthumous content. Like, you could get a cheap knockoff off AI Bruce saying "get in the car," or exclusive unseen footage of Bruce saying "get in the car" for big, big bucks.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 July 2021 16:19 (four years ago)

"fuck, i need to reload! get in the car! we've got to get out of here - to go to the ANNUAL CONVENTION OF HONDA SALES REPS, WESTERN GREAT LAKES REGION, WELCOME SALES REPS, PICK UP YOUR FREE GIFT BAG AT CHECK-IN DESK!"

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 16 July 2021 16:29 (four years ago)

some artschool wag is going to release an indie film with the voices of The Rock and Emily Blunt and get it into MOMA

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 July 2021 21:05 (four years ago)

That movie already exists, it's called The Jungle Cruise.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 July 2021 22:38 (four years ago)

but does it exist REALLY

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 17 July 2021 06:59 (four years ago)

three weeks pass...

the dead speak! it’s ghastly, dead people should be left alone unless they’ve clearly specified that they want their voices used for hilarious pranks or whatnot. the tech could be a godsend for living people who have lost their voice tho!

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna42782115

not that that’s likely to be its primary function when there are dead singers to milk. countdown to billie holliday’s rendition of 1-800 cars 4 kids has begun, the future is some weird shit.

person (cat), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 08:05 (four years ago)

there's a "singing for Pepsi" line available in Neil Young's voice already

StanM, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 08:21 (four years ago)

I don't endorse the misuses but. When I first became aware of the technology it was in the context of hearing my son speak in his own voice.

biz markie post malone (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 10:38 (four years ago)

Isn't this kinda what Roger Ebert was going for after he lost his ability to speak?

pplains, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 15:06 (four years ago)

Happy belated tenth birthday to this article

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 15:09 (four years ago)

Still speaking to us from the past.

pplains, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 15:12 (four years ago)

here's a newer article: https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/tech/tom-cruise-deepfake-tiktok-company/index.html

it's pretty gross how common it is for AI tech companies to pivot from extremely useful medical purposes to some boundary-violating shite that makes money (e.g., most "emotion recognition" start-ups)

rob, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 15:46 (four years ago)

Matt Stone talking about what they're going to do with the money from their new South Park deal: "We’re doing deep fakes. We have a studio with a dozen people who are deep fake artists. We’re working on a little more of this deep fake movie we’re trying to piece together."

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:00 (four years ago)

he's going to have FDR speaking out against lockdowns isn't he

there's too much fucking shit on me (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:31 (four years ago)

Boy, that's what I'd do with a billion dollars.

pplains, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 19:12 (four years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/13/1035449/ai-deepfake-app-face-swaps-women-into-porn

who could have predicted this though

"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 September 2021 10:12 (three years ago)

From the beginning, deepfakes, or AI-generated synthetic media, have primarily been used to create pornographic representations of women, who often find this psychologically devastating. The original Reddit creator who popularized the technology face-swapped female celebrities’ faces into porn videos. To this day, the research company Sensity AI estimates, between 90% and 95% of all online deepfake videos are nonconsensual porn, and around 90% of those feature women.

you know who does this? crypto dudes, and they're always dudes

"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 September 2021 10:13 (three years ago)

two months pass...

🤯 This is not a person! It’s a Real-time controlled CGI puppet in Unreal Engine 5 #ai #cgi #gaming pic.twitter.com/Tb5e8N4ref

— Evan Kirstel #TechFluencer (@EvanKirstel) November 23, 2021

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:52 (three years ago)

are they remaking GTA3 again

Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:58 (three years ago)

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwZslCIanTw

calstars, Sunday, 27 February 2022 13:19 (three years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEPfM3jSoBw

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 February 2022 14:40 (three years ago)

Lol

calstars, Monday, 28 February 2022 15:05 (three years ago)

owlkitty amazes and delights each time but it's pleasingly just DIY greenscreen

nashwan, Monday, 28 February 2022 15:07 (three years ago)

was gonna say don't think either of those are deepfakes

Nhex, Monday, 28 February 2022 15:11 (three years ago)

open to placing elsewhere

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 February 2022 15:36 (three years ago)

two weeks pass...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/these-campaigns-hope-deepfake-candidates-help-get-out-the-vote-11646756345

I could be wrong, but I think this is a first? As usual this stuff is one part deeply ominous, one part extremely silly

rob, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 15:03 (three years ago)

Shakur / Presley '24

imagine flagons (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 16 March 2022 17:16 (three years ago)

not reposting but the russians apparently put together a fairly shitty Zelenskyy deepfake

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 March 2022 00:51 (three years ago)

ten months pass...

Counterpoint: Deepfakes are going exactly as far as they need to pic.twitter.com/zjs2IVLf8u

— Christian Antonio (@ImCAntonio) February 5, 2023

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2023 19:23 (two years ago)

trying to play with that but getting "Actor without script is not supported. Check the 1st scene"?

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2023 20:24 (two years ago)

Actor without script is not supported.

rejection letters of the near-future

Karl Malone, Monday, 6 February 2023 20:52 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...

here's a new one

https://www.twitch.tv/atheneaiheroes

Punster McPunisher, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 02:39 (two years ago)

this is incredible. i've noticed the questions are taken from the chat. is all the chat AI generated as well? or are those real people, and the AI stream is taking their real questions as "food" for the content?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 09:49 (two years ago)

five months pass...

bump

https://djtechreviews.com/news/google-and-universal-music-group-negotiate-ai-deepfake-royalties

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 13 August 2023 23:51 (one year ago)

from FB: "UMG doesn’t own the rights so how the hell are they licensing them?"

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 13 August 2023 23:52 (one year ago)

also #onethread, this could go in the AI threads or the copyright threads or idk, this seemed best

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 13 August 2023 23:52 (one year ago)

six months pass...

I'm with Super Hans on C*ldplay, and know very little of Idles, but the latter's latest video did mildly amuse/interest me (for the initial cognitive dissonance mainly), even if it's nothing at all groundbreaking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnd4jIBRfHE

brain (krakow), Friday, 16 February 2024 13:12 (one year ago)


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