Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

With apologies if you had a better title.

lol we're all gonna.. die?

this title is terrible lock thread and start again

this is always the subtext of these threads

flag thread

yeah the thread titles are almost as bad as the US politics ones.

content is a bit better though

not a poll?

it doesn't mention brexit OR that we're all gnna die, halloween is two days early and it's bad

polly mackenzie and fraser nelson on NN. marked how bad their analysis is when put against stephen bush

sb is so dreamy it’s ridic

Tom D to thread to talk about Fraser’s accent 🚨

xp this is not said enough

it doesn't mention brexit OR that we're all gnna die, halloween is two days early and it's bad

― mark s, Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:13 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Bad as in we're all gonna die, or bad bad like that effing pumpkin gif?

FN has a fairly typical posh northeast highland accent.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIFJxgXWkAIcrwe?format=jpg&name=large

No Lenin hat, no credibility

Some awful layout work there

london engulfed by the sea then smashed by the moon, reindeer noses all red, everything under heaven utter chaos, situation excellent

the fact that they've already got the fucking poppy on the front page is beyond parody.

already got the fucking poppy on the front page

Correct me if I'm wrong but the fucking poppy is displayed all year around nowadays no? Saw it on counters of "trendy" shops a month ago. That shit will never go away.

I find that front page anti-semitic

Bored with the election already tbh.

haha

seems like a bit of a strategic mistake letting parliament vote YES to your deal and then pulling it for an election where you say parliament is BLOCKING brexit

despite all the stage management, the line is sounding paper thin on today rn

despite all my stage i am still paper thin on the page

McDonnell on good form already. Turning on Sky Breakfast News this morning, the strapline: Brexit Election >:(

🎶Rip it up and start again🎶

Corbyn looks great in that Mail front page

Where the fuck has the latest Green messaging been coming from? They've certainly lost me for this election, and I'd imagine their vote will crash across the country, which can only help Labour really

cut to alphie and calz looking smug

The Liberal Democrats are “within a small swing of winning hundreds of seats”, its leader, Jo Swinson, has claimed

https://media.giphy.com/media/1cFNeNUnpn6Tu/giphy.gif

well, i've already hit my limit on how much vox pops i can handle between now and the 12th of December

cut to alphie and calz looking smug

― imago, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Gotta deliver posting at this crucial time, like I've never done before #sorryNotsorry

cut to alphie and calz looking smug

Where the fuck has the latest Green messaging been coming from? They've certainly lost me for this election, and I'd imagine their vote will crash across the country, which can only help Labour really

Keep death-wishing I lived in a marginal and I don't mean a Swinson-brain marginal where the LD vote was in single figures in 2017.

Are we really going to have to look at this thread title for the next month and a half?

I'm already finding it a good mood-setter for the dismalness of the upcoming campaigns from all concerned

I can vote as a Commonwealth citizen but since I'm in a constituency that the Lib Dems narrowly snatched from the Tories in 2017 and I plan on bailing asap with no intention of ever returning, I'd rather just sit this one out and wish you all the best of luck.

Matt - I believe you have powers to change this title?

it won't take effect in bookmarks where it counts

I can vote as a Commonwealth citizen but since I'm in a constituency that the Lib Dems narrowly snatched from the Tories in 2017 and I plan on bailing asap with no intention of ever returning, I'd rather just sit this one out and wish you all the best of luck.

Pom, no one really minds a vote for LDs in that circumstance and as someone who has lived here for nearly three decades who nevertheless cannot vote, please vote.

I would be delighted to be able to vote for my MP, Keir Starmer.

That's fair, suzy (and gyac). Labour got less 15% in 2017 so it appears to be a lost cause 'round these parts.

I will be voting for Keir Starmer. If this parliament goes the full term (no chance) this will be the last UK general election I get to vote in.

Wouldn't want that dilemma of voting LD in a Tory seat where they're the likeliest gainer. Wouldn't judge anyone for doing so.

Labour if elected should change the expat franchise rules - 15 years FLIES by.

Especially because the labor election loss handwringing seems to be resulting in costing up with coal mining shitbags down here.

Just registered. I'll get a postal vote application form, which should keep it hassle-free. I do find it somewhat amusing that my Canadian citizenship affords me more democratic rights than my EU one in this instance.

the fucking wankers retweeting that John Lennon vid from '72 imploring people to register to vote are all dead to me.

John Lennon: #brexitInADitch

John Lennon would nailed on have Legitimate EU Concerns

Despite not living in the UK for 40 odd years. True.

Boris Johnson is on course to win a Commons majority unless remain voters work tactically to block a Tory victory and ensure an EU-backing leadership, according to research. As PA Media reports, the Conservatives would achieve a majority of 44 if no tactical voting took place but anti-Brexit voters could scupper this, according to a study by the Best for Britain campaign. If fewer than a third of remain voters (30%) used their vote tactically they could swing the election to deny the prime minister and to secure a remain majority of four. The research by the anti-Brexit campaign was based on seat-by-seat analysis of 46,000 people over September and October and was released this morning, PA reports.

Pinch of salt may be required.

Best for Britain is an apolitical campaign group *cough cough cough*

yeah let's tactically vote for the effective Remain rump of the tory party who haven't ruled out another coalition with them, that'll show them - is my controversial hottake!

is this led by donky

Remembering when Owen Smith’s 2016 leadership campaign was so bad that the people fighting ISIS stopped for a minute to tell him to get a grip, evergreen image pic.twitter.com/szHdoEcVNM

— Marcus Barnett (@marcusbarnett_) October 30, 2019

Tactical Voting website but it just electrocutes you if you try and use it. I'm looking for a one million dollar investment.

— JC (@jmsclee) October 30, 2019

when does the carrie symonds argument tape drop

xps to gyac: voted green 2015, labour 2017

Re: tactical voting – so my initial intuition was correct and I ultimately shouldn't vote at all because it makes no difference whether the Tories or Lib Dems win in my horrendously bougie constituency, where they happen to be neck-and-neck? (Labour didn't even manage 13% in 2017 and that's not about to change any time soon.)

No, vote Lib Dem, vote against the Tories at any and every opportunity.

personally, fuck a Lib Dem, but i say that from the luxury of a solid Labour constituency where I get the joy of voting for Blairite running dog *shudder* Diana Johnson, unless my gammonist ultra mates are correct and the Brexit Party stages an upset (NB the Brexit Party will not stage an upset)

on the other hand the Lib Dems are micrometres less evil - actually maybe not, put for the purposes of this argument - than the Tories and the order of dishing out a shoeing should always go Tories first so if you can bring yourself to drink enough to vote for a Lib Dem i guess the less actual blue Tory MPs the better kind of, it looks funnier come election night anyway

There's an anagrammatical thing going here, the Lib Dems are vile but the Tories are evil.

I have the greatest luxury of all, Jebediah Cromwell himself is my local MP.

I'd look at the Lib Dem candidate first and what they are saying on various issues. If they seem solid on those then vote LD, if it's Jo Swinson-type vote Lab.

Good to luck to Pom in performing his civic duties

No, vote Lib Dem, vote against the Tories at any and every opportunity.

jo swinson: “I’m going to be PM”

mate, you’re not even going to be an MP

I'd argue that the LibDems are just as awful as the tories and tactical voting for them is just effectively stats/polls driven fatalism that will never have any good outcome. But fucking ignore me Pom. I'm not being judgemental or dishing out advice - just my personal opinion on the matter - which ain't worth shit tbf!

I'd vote UKIP to get a Tory out.

These are the only seats I'd say it's worth voting Lib Dem in.

Cheadle
Cheltenham
Cornwall North
Devon North
Lewes
Richmond Park
St. Ives
Winchester

Never lived in a place with a Tory MP though.

Very good of you to caveat that vote for UKIP post there

That list is current Tory/independent seats only I'll stress.

So the Lib Dem candidate's voting record is quite slim as she wasn't around before 2017 but she claims to be anti-austerity and consistently voted for higher taxes on banks. Could be far worse, really.

jo swinson: “I’m going to be PM”

mate, you’re not even going to be an MP

another lib dem anagram

I read that the Tories fell from 58 London MPs to *11* in the space of 10 years ('87-'97). They're only back up to 21 now. (There are fewer constituencies in the capital than there were, mind).

Be nice to think we could pick off the likes of IDS this time round but I'm not sure there's going to be even that sort from swing from '17.

xps the lib dems normally just edge tories in bath

kinky

in london justine greening isn't standing again and there's some hope for iain duncan smith, theresa villiers, boris johnson

I'd argue that the LibDems are just as awful as the tories and tactical voting for them is just effectively stats/polls driven fatalism that will never have any good outcome. But fucking ignore me Pom. I'm not being judgemental or dishing out advice - just my personal opinion on the matter - which ain't worth shit tbf!

Never lived in a place with a Tory MP though.

I'm told Boris Johnson raised fact his own seat of Uxbridge is on internal CCHQ list of seats potentially at risk at Political Cabinet

.@oliver_wright spotted Tories spent £1,178 on Facebook this week targeting 200,000 Uxbridge voters with call to keep police station open

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) October 30, 2019

yikes

Tory MPs laughing at Jeremy Corbyn’s bright green tie. “I know you’re all jealous,” he says.

Theresa May absolutely fuming on Tory backbenches. “It’s for Grenfell,” she hisses at colleagues.

You think they would know that. #GrenfellNeverAgain

— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) October 30, 2019

Wear a Fireman hat Jezza. Hose the cnuts down McD.

quite an achievement to make theresa fucking may look like the sensitive one on grenfell, good job you braying ghouls

I thought sociopaths were apt at feigning human emotions such as compassion and empathy when it suits their needs?

Theresa Villiers is my MP: 350 majority down from 12,000 five years ago. Come on!

If I never hear the word DITHER ever again...

https://youtu.be/VBQ5GKDbSdk be prepared for more nonsense like this

David Lindon Lammy PC MP FRSA, 81.6% of the vote - happy days!

are pom and I neighbours? I didn't think so but the position is much the same here in Oxford West & Abingdon. Hi!

I'm torn here: I guess I will vote LD v grudgingly because I felt bad last time the Tories got in and this is a bad time to allow even one more Tory MP. At least my LD MP seems a bit more of the admittedly schoolma'amy and NIMBYish Ashdown/Kennedy-era style than the current spivvy fracking enthusiasts, though she first stood in 2015 so maybe I'm deluded; but I liked that she campaigned to repeal the Vagrancy Act and has tweeted in support of Labour motions & MPs, which I imagine (without looking) would be beyond Swinson.

But Swinson has been really pissing me off and I am scared they'll prop up Boris in a hung parlt and wave through his crap ERG-renege-able deal in return for something meaningless. And if everyone who felt like me voted Labour here, could we nudge the stats so that it won't seem so pointless next time? Except post-coalition the LD vote collapsed and went a bit to Labour, a bit to the Greens, and a thumping majority to the Tories on not that many more votes than before, and that didn't feel like progress at all.

(I had reckoned it was a bit safer for the LDs now anyway, as it seems quite a Remainy seat, but there's a Green candidate this year and they stood down last time, to which the LDs may well have owed their victory, and we do have our share of golfy gammonists, so... I'm scared, basically, but GL UK)

Hi, neighbour! :)

Thanks for the rundown – quite helpful for a passing spacecadet such as myself.

lol dickbrane

@ElectionMapsUK
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UKIP Leader Richard Braine has resigned.

The Lib Dem bar chart is evolving...... it is becoming stronger..... more opaque...... more powerful....... [h/t @iammightor] pic.twitter.com/zV9NGytKAV

— Lafargue (@Lafargue) October 30, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIxUKbV0UEM

my constituency has a good chance of going Labour this time

I've probably lived in Tory constituencies for more of my life than Labour ones (just about). the town I grew up in was Tory until 1997 (and is now again). then I went to university in a Tory/Lab marginal. then London for 15 years so mostly Labour apart from a couple of years in a Lib Dem seat although that was mostly an Iraq war thing I think (I even voted Lib Dem in 2005 for my sins)

Lol Jesus that tool

Speaking of tools, see Emma Kennedy is saying Labour should stand aside for the Lib Dems ofc

it's Emma O'Kennedy now iirc

Re: Lafargue, this is as appropriate a moment as any to recommend that everyone read The Right to Be Lazy:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lafargue/1883/lazy/

what is this rogue tactical voting website? i've only seen screenshots of the results, but no idea what the URL is.

I found one, https://getvoting.org/ but that just says "dunno yet", it doesn't tell me to vote Lib Dem

Lafargue is one of my key texts already :D

I am there for anything called "The Right to Be Lazy"

Lafargue's Twitter namesake and Flying_Rodent have been v otm lately, though I realise praise from someone of my meltishness might pain them

as this election feels a bit up in the air after all the various factional schisms, it might be nice to have some kind of "who might actually beat the Tories in my area" tool aggregating data from polls and Euro & local elections (NB all 3 are only vague indications and not particularly to be trusted wrt trends in a general election) - but tbh all the attempts I've seen so far seem at worst scammy and at best maybe no better than just looking at the 2017 results

btw I will also concede that although I said up there my MP might - might! - be a "less bad" LD, there seems to be a bit of a gang-like mentality forming, so best not to dare hope any of them will exercise their conscience more than average when it comes to voting, eh

Re: Lafargue, this is as appropriate a moment as any to recommend that everyone read The Right to Be Lazy:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lafargue/1883/lazy/

― pomenitul, Wednesday, October 30, 2019 2:28 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yes! :)

Rushnara Ali asking Boris about cutting fire services while he was mayor, gwaaaaan

even lib dems hate this tactical voting website, well done there

Checked this for my home constituency. Sadly Jon Crudass is our MP and he was one of the 19 who voted for the withdrawal agreement. Stop pretending Labour is a party of remain pic.twitter.com/KeQKkrls2C

— George 🔶🇪🇺🇮🇱🇭🇰 (@TricksGeorge) October 30, 2019

This app says you should vote for me

Cross-party pro-EU @BestForBritain have released their Remain tactical vote guide and recommend voting for me + the @LibDems in Cities of London & Westminster. Together we can ensure the constituency of Parliament and Downing Street returns a Remain MP. ⬇️ https://t.co/QeiAyg5Bx5 pic.twitter.com/DbVPyZEvAw

— Chuka Umunna (@ChukaUmunna) October 30, 2019

https://i.postimg.cc/rmmbngh1/1-F031-EF8-5-D58-42-D3-B0-C7-146-E202611-DD.jpg

Staaaaaaaate

pic.twitter.com/IhhPqENixU

— Tom Meadowcroft 🍉🌍 (@TomMSGGP) October 30, 2019

I’d vote for comrade alphabet if he ran on a pro-tank, pro-“all your books” manifesto

Don't believe in elections *lights up a big fat cigar*

“Grenfell tower would not have happened to wealthy Londoners.”

In 2017, the Tories held Calder Valley with a majority of 609 votes. The Green party finished on 631.

Today, the Greens stepped aside in the constituency and officially backed Labour’s @JoshFG to bridge that tiny gap.

Solidarity, Calder Valley Greens! https://t.co/MgWfcjeqYU

— Red Robbo (@Orwell_Fan_Fan) October 30, 2019

this Green candidate didn't need some bullshit app to do the right thing in Calder Valley, credit where it is due.

"Will Ye No' Come Back Again?" ;_;

Previously deputy Scottish leader, Carlaw replaced Ruth Davidson after she resigned unexpected in August, partly in protest at Boris Johnson’s premiership, pending a leadership contest next year, but the party’s campaign literature still promotes Davidson prominently.

It sent out election letters to Tory voters signed by Davidson, a keen remain campaigner during the referendum, saying the threat of a second independence vote was a very real one. The A3 election leaflets Tory activists handed out in Perth on Wednesday did not name Carlaw once. Perth and North Perthshire is a key Tory target seat: the SNP’s Pete Wishart retained it with a wafer-thin majority of 21 votes, or 0.04%, over the Tories.

my constituency was somewhat close last time - only 2,267 votes in it. nats v slab so i'll have to decide. yellow shite and tories nowhere near thankfully

got my confirmation of my postal vote emailed to me just now.

glasgow central represent

Was going to say. Quite a choice of candidates in previous years!

I've voted both snp and labour in the constituency (with the person i vote for never winning, i missed the 2015 election out of negligence - didn't register to vote in time)

Labour.

— slowthai (@slowthai) October 30, 2019

That’s the baggymp endorsement

hackney south was the tenth safest labour seat in 2017 (lab majority nearly 38,000, con second place)

You’re Hackney South? Where does Hackney North start?

The Cuban bar at Angel

i am very close to the top edge!

to the east the edge is glenarm road (which is a continuation of the street i live in)
to the north the edge is goulton road (= one street to the north)
to the west the edge is downs park road, which runs under hackney downs and is one street further to the north than goulton road

further east still it balloons a bit to engulf most of hackney marshes below lea bridge road

I found a map and you are indeed skirting the top edge!

brexitcast indispensable
https://i.imgur.com/nSGmdq8.gif

LOL that'll be the Brexitcast with two Scottish contributors.

I keep noticing in these Brit politics threads that a sizeable number of Labour MPs are scared of losing their seats in an election. I can't help thinking they should quit whining, stand with the party, and fight for the platform.

is it sizeable tho -- or is it the same MP anonymously whining to many different outlets

SNP won my seat by 2 votes, Labour got less than 10%, so I guess I'll vote SNP again.

I keep noticing in these Brit politics threads that a sizeable number of Labour MPs are scared of losing their seats in an election. I can't help thinking they should quit whining, stand with the party, and fight for the platform.

is that mrs kinnock

When someone who knows fuck all about football tries to talk about football pic.twitter.com/iGK9G24sAE

— Nooruddean (@BeardedGenius) October 30, 2019

ouch my toes curled up

Chris Mason is even by bbc standards a horrible little establishment toady. I can't believe how angry I've got about him taking over AQ because it was already bad anyway. Also lolled at the brexit-cast producer boasting it is the most popular podcast in the UK. As if four hundred QT watchers saying "wtf is this shite?" counts as fans of the "podcast".

meant to say four hundred thousand, but it is probably about the right figure for brexit-cast

Nicky Morgan stepping down now, Tory MPs are dropping like flies.

no using google

can anyone name a second lib dem policy

grind the poor?

bollox to corbyn

all these moderate Tories resigning to spend more time with their directorships is some real Profiles in Courage shit

Lib Dems also have a "be nice to each other" policy iirc

ummm, probably something to do with the climate

always punch left

no they solved the environment with a plastic bag tax and the extermination of disableds and other social undesirables

Chris Mason is even by bbc standards a horrible little establishment toady. I can't believe how angry I've got about him taking over AQ because it was already bad anyway.

Hell of a coup for Al Qaeda to sign him tbf.

Ann Coffey also not standing, that’s 2/5 of Change now.

Make nice noises about climate change policy while pocketing readies from fracking donors?

xxp
he wished! he wouldn't even make the AQ U21s reserve team bench!

i hope the lib dems do fuck all in this election, will be sorely disappointed if we're not even allowed that consolation

Imagine talking shit like you have green policies when yr party leader is in Cuadrilla's pocket, shameful stuff.

...and your previous leader was Mr Shell Oil, fucker-over of Ken Saro-Wiwa.

We're launching the most ambitious and radical campaign for real change our country has ever seen.

Join me and @peoplesmomentum on a call tonight at 8pm to find out how you can get involved.

Register for the call here: https://t.co/EKFD6iupc3

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) October 30, 2019

could've arranged this when the Wolves weren't playing, for shame Mr Crumhorn

Someone tell the Mail he’s doing this instead of watching Arsenal in the Carabou Cup

these strategic voting sites are out of control

?????? pic.twitter.com/zDQr0sexnF

— Horace Goodwill, tonicke purveyor (@eff_hey) October 30, 2019

Nice. It would indeed make a massive difference.

fs they're not standing in my constituency

we sometimes get the Yorkshire Party who are affiliated iirc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2vP_H-Ulwg

is the conservative election slogan really "britain deserves better" ? 🤔

conservatives otm tbf

no, I think Britain is getting moreorless what it deserves

i think so too but it's horrible that the ppl who will get it most in the neck are the ones who've earned it least :(

Sorry, got a lot of posts to wade through before I catch up, but Michael said upthread "(There are fewer constituencies in the capital than there were, mind)."

Why is that the case when the population of London must have gone up by 1 or 2 million?

tories were planning a redrawing of constituency boundaries, which don't just redraw themselves when ppl move -- but this hasn't happened yet (i guess it was one too many hot potatoes in the trifle)
.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/10/uk-parliamentary-boundary-changes-final-plans-unveiled

Seriously do not think I can face 5 weeks of film crews leaving London to find 'ordinary people' in the North and the Midlands who are prepared to say, "I've voted Labour all my life but..."

We've already had three years of that

same. xp

Why is that the case when the population of London must have gone up by 1 or 2 million?

Good question, though the population of London fell, census by census, from the '30s (when 18% of the UK lived in the capital) to the '90s (when it was more like 11%) so there was probably an overdue corrective to over-representation? London had 93 constituencies in the '70s, 84 1983-92 and 73 since the 1997 election. But the growth of London has outstripped the rest of the country in the last 20 years, so really there should be more like 80-85 again now.

Big old pain in the arse to redraw boundaries though.

Seriously do not think I can face 5 weeks of film crews leaving London to find 'ordinary people' in the North and the Midlands who are prepared to say, "I've voted Labour all my life but..."

We've already had three years of that

Not every single day though.

mark s at 9:25 30 Oct 19
i think so too but it's horrible that the ppl who will get it most in the neck are the ones who've earned it least :(

Good thread on yesterday's fiasco

Your "tactical vote dashboard" is telling voters to vote Lib Dem in Truro & Falmouth.

Here was the 2017 result in Truro & Falmouth:

CON: 44% (-)
LAB: 38% (+23)
LD: 15% (-2)
OTH: 3% (-17) https://t.co/vUFsUa5V17

— Stats for Lefties 🌹 🌹 (@LeftieStats) October 30, 2019

Check out the small print on this. The @LibDems are not a serious political party. https://t.co/nzNC7qpV0b

— Greggs Truther (@invisibleste) October 31, 2019

LibDems employing more deceptive bullshit in their desperate scramble for tactical votes.

2017 result

Conservative

Jacob Rees-Mogg Votes28,992 header_vote_share53.6% Net percentage change in seats+3.9
Party
Labour

Robin Moss Votes18,757 header_vote_share34.7% Net percentage change in seats+9.9
Party
Liberal Democrat

Manda Rigby Votes4,461 header_vote_share8.3%

don't worry guys i'm sure the national media will be all over this fake news scandal

As has been pointed out, the small print says 'imagine if it's a content between Rees-Mogg and the Lib Dems and no other party had any chance of winning, who would you vote for' and they still lose by six.

The takes are scalding hot lads

Any tactical voting tool will have glitches and teething trouble. If you demand transparency, how about some in return? There’s no tactical voting tool a Labour apparatchik will like, because you don’t want people to vote tactically. Your aim is to frame this as a two-horse race.

— Alex Andreou (@sturdyAlex) October 30, 2019

It’s data. The critics emphasise the 2017 GE. The site includes 2019 local and EU elections.

Let’s just sift through the various probabilities than cry ‘liar’ all the time.

Save that for Johnson

— Peter Jukes (@peterjukes) October 30, 2019

TACTICAL VOTING ADVICE: Try the tactic of voting for the Labour Party, because they represent the only hope for a better society.

— Avery Edison (@aedison) October 31, 2019

Terrific story. Brexit Party instructions to prospective candidates: “Important. Please all go DARK on social media. DO NOT respond to any questions about where we [are] standing, what the strategy or plan is from now on. Things will be made clear . . . very soon.” https://t.co/dyg8fVQkvG

— Tony Bonsignore (@Tony_Bee) October 30, 2019

Any tactical voting tool will have glitches and teething trouble although the fact that the glitches all work to benefit one party must be some kind of long odds coincidence.

it's very early in the campaign to be in a murderous fury, hat tip to the Lib Dems and the FBPE massive

love the Brexit Party's SAS fantasies showing in public let's go DARK

Read a really interesting thread on the kind of unregulated modelling of data that produces these kinds of tactical voting sites

Do we think Brexit Party voters will easily switch Tory just because there is some sort of deal in place?

i'd imagine a lot of them will vote for the newly purged Tories anyway and any deal from the Brexit Party will be more about Farage saving face and maintaining the illusion of his influence rather than strategic considerations

Last election’s massive Tory vote was buoyed from the UKIP vote, so you’d expect similar things this time. Disillusioned ones might stay home.

9.30am: The Lib Dems launch their election slogan, which will be on a poster on a van that will later drive around Boris Johnson’s Uxbridge and South Ruislip constituency and Jeremy Corbyn’s Islington North constituency.

i assume the slogan will read "Take Me I'm Yours"

xp RIP Dick Braine, we hardly knew you

Do we think Brexit Party voters will easily switch Tory just because there is some sort of deal in place?

― xyzzzz__,

Depends where they came from, pre Brexit Party, but I don't see why not. I think most Brexit voters aren't particularly purist about the form it takes, it just needs to feel like a win. Its existential anyway, doesn't matter what form it actually takes. Don't see Brexit Party doing particularly well.

Brexit Party going in hard on Boris for breaking his promise to leave on Oct. 31... by talking about withdrawing from contesting Tory Leave seats and concentrating on Labour Leave seats instead Huzzah!

Makes sense for them, don't think they can compete with Boris now

lol they're actually doubling down:

Naomi Smith, chief executive of Best for Britain, defended the voting guide. “Our tool uses MRP analysis, which is the only model that correctly predicted the shock wins for Labour in 2017, like Canterbury and Kensington,” she said.

“Based on a sample of 46,000 people, our data is very robust and our Peterborough byelection prediction got the Labour vote share correct within 0.6%. The tool will be updated with the data for each seat in the next day or so. We expect to back Labour in over 370 seats in England and 180 or so Lib Dems. The tool only covers England and Wales.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/30/tactical-voting-could-deliver-remain-victory-in-election-study

Makes sense for them, don't think they can compete with Boris now

Well, we're fucked then, innit.

BXP votes not concentrated in the home counties?

still optimistic regardless

Lets see, all to play for,

Cons/LD Coalition at 18/1 doesn't look a bad shout

Yes it does.

don't worry there might be the seasonal spirit of Tiny TimGoebbels in a santa hat following some of these shy Bxp voters into the polling stations!

think the cholesterol-laden scythe of feath must be doing away with some of the gammon, surely, do they factor this in? of course some of them are blue rinse ladies who will live to 110 out of spite.

yeah feath is a word now

the actor hugh grant is currently refusing to shake the hand of sajid javid the UK's working class chancellor of the exchequer

The Scythe of Feath is surely a fantasy novel waiting to be written.

had no idea the chancellor was a working class geezer you'd think he'd mention it more

he grew up somewhere so rough that people would scrawl graffiti on bus stops and call coppers complete knobheads!

This from a man who has pledged millions to put more knobheads on the street.

Well, we're fucked then, innit.

― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 31 October 2019 10:53

I don't think so but it goes back to how much more popular and convincing Johnson is now compared to May 18 months ago. I don't see enough of a difference between them on those bases. Brexit party targets are/were mostly Labour seats that were MORE winnable for them than the Tories.

And us being fucked really relies on the polls now suddenly being far more accurate than they were before the last two GEs right? Argh this fucking optimism etc.

They were never going to win any seats the only use for them is taking votes off the Tories, which I hoped they'd be better at than UKIP.

like most tories ropy origin stories, people that grew up with The Saj completely dispute his "moving" tale of struggle/strife, overcoming insurmountable odds etc and say he was a molly-coddled dickhead.

fucking tell them

Q: Are you part of the Islington elite?

Corbyn says he has been MP for Islington North since 1983. Almost 40% of the children in his community are in poverty. A third of people live in the rented sector. People are terrified of universal credit. He says his community has people who are totally up against it. He has been proud to represent his constituency.

all MP's are part of an elite ffs!

Was just about to post that very quote. So sick of this Islington elite shite. Johnson had the nerve to fling the word Islingtonian at Corbyn at PMQs but, I don't know, maybe they prefer Old Etonians to Islingtonians in South Shields these days.

Corbyn should show some of these smug media arseholes round his constituency one day.

or if you represent Scunthorpe or some shithole do you defer x % of your MP's salary because you not elite enough!

Was just about to post that very quote. So sick of this Islington elite shite. Johnson had the nerve to fling the word Islingtonian at Corbyn at PMQs but, I don't know, maybe they prefer Old Etonians to Islingtonians in South Shields these days.

LOL yes, I know, I used to see the fat cunt out pretending to be doing a morning run - when he was trying to get elected mayor, never saw him once he got elected.

Yes, in Corbyn’s constituency iirc.

First lived in Corbynland, then in Islington South in this house:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-71700562.html

Better questions for the MP for Islington north:

- will you stand down if Rowan’s is closed on your watch?
- where is the best pub to watch GAA in the constituency?
- why haven’t you been on Arsenal fan tv yet?

There's a pub that shows GAA round the corner from me but it's a foul Arsenal dive.

Is it 12 Pins? I’ve been there a few times

gyac is an Arsenal fan, as we have long established

fped

No, much worse than 12 Pins.

Rigby being useless again

@BethRigby

Q to JC: You defied critics in 2017, but you have lowest personal polling of any oppo leader since ‘77. How do you get people out there to feel about you the way they do in this room. If u don’t win, will u stand aside?
JC: ‘It’s not about me, it’s not a presidential campaign’ twitter.com/skynews/status…

And he didn’t answer whether he’ll stand down at the next election.

Put it this way, it's where recovering alcoholic, Kenny Sansom, held the book launch of his tell-all autobiography (xp)

No, much worse than 12 Pins.

*monocle pops out*

It's not Charrington's / The Thornhill Arms, is it?

I wondered if I was going a bit far in calling Swinson the Remainer Trump back in August - but the scandal of these fake tactical voting apps leaves Steve Bannon in the shade https://t.co/bLBHBUZz4n

— J.A. Smith #ForTheMany (@NuPopulism) October 31, 2019

I'm low-key enjoying the "BritainHasExploded" (according to Mark Francois some months ago) and "BrexitRiots" hashtags.

Getting really bad here. Somebody’s thrown Iron Man through a wall #brexitriots pic.twitter.com/xX0tCJIeai

— Mark Brush (@riffraffhands) October 31, 2019

They’re not fake, just DUMB: they use voting results from EU elections to steer voters in a general election. But it’s a bad, bad look.

Jemeyr Cronby MP, what is your stance on the great bookshop schism of Blackstock Road?

"fake" is a terrible meme that wants killing but those apps are deliberately hugely dishonest, I wouldn't split hairs

People keep sharing this like it's some amazing own of Burgon - presumably his point was just that the LDs are making excuses to avoid coalition with a party left of them.

My god, how has she done this to him again just one week later pic.twitter.com/jX7bwF1yKY

— Rob Joyce (@RobJoyce156) October 31, 2019

Their other excuse being to only win ten seats.

emma barnett & thomas pecker are arseholes

theydonotknowwhytheyarehated.png

Charrington's / The Thornhill Arms, is it?

The Eaglet, a dingy chilly hellhole, with boisterous Gooners spilling over into the street, inconveniencing passers-by, every match day.

What has Emma Barnett and Thomas Pecker (LOL nominative determinism) done now?

*have

Oh yeah, I know it to see - I lived around the back of the Swimmer for a few months last year, but I just went to the Swimmer!

Day 1 of General Election: Extraordinary insight from a Labour MP. No billionaires in Britain #generalelection #BrexitDay https://t.co/DzI7CXVzXG

— Emma Barnett (@Emmabarnett) October 31, 2019

Here at the Labour Party campaign launch, where the Shadow Cabinet have wandered on stage.

It must, alas, be pointed out, that a quite significant percentage of these people are very, very stupid indeed. pic.twitter.com/jRGCNWWOn7

— Tom Peck (@tompeck) October 31, 2019

Oh yeah, I know it to see - I lived around the back of the Swimmer for a few months last year, but I just went to the Swimmer!

Wise man. The area is shit for pubs.

Good old Tom “I’m friends with Britain First people but none of my friends are stupid enough to be Corbynites” Peck speaking there.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EINjDj0WsAAyt_t?format=jpg&name=900x900

All this Islington north chat is making me really miss the place

It's too elite, even Joe Orton would priced out of there these days :p

Apparently Boris Johnson is ditching Uxbridge and South Ruislip (majority of 5,034) and scarpering off to stand in Rutland & Melton (majority of 23,104).#generalelection2019

— James Melville (@JamesMelville) October 31, 2019

?

Lol running scared

That can't be true.

good sign if it is

They'd definitely lose the seat then. Don't believe it.

Even if it is made up shit from a Putin troll farm - good work

let's all resolve to bring this kind of energy to the election campaign pic.twitter.com/zCbrZ2tcTd

— tom (@malaiseforever) October 31, 2019

Lovin it lovin it lovin it

Don't know who James Melville is or how he'd know but ty for the lol all the same

Apparently BJ has just visited the hospital down the road from me and was booed as he left, standard enough day then.

I believe poetic whatever dictates that Johnson goes to Penrith & The Border or Orpington.

maybe he'll go to dunwich or old sarum

had no idea the chancellor was a working class geezer you'd think he'd mention it more

― nashwan, Thursday, October 31, 2019 11:51 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Indeed...

“I think that is incredibly rude. I wonder if people like Hugh Grant think they are part of the elite and they look down on working class people no matter what station they reach in life.”

... well done, Sajid, you've managed to appear to an even bigger tit than Hugh Grant.

Worried about Liverpool winning the league? Throw your support behind Spurs who are the only team who can stop them pic.twitter.com/vbkkg7rLhs

— Will 🚾 (@ohlookitswill_) October 31, 2019

Have never really had an opinion on Hugh Grant but that’s quite refreshing considering the many, many celebs we had wanking to death over Ellen’s civility to GWB.

xp lol beautiful

I have very reliable tales of Hugh Grant being Unsafe In Taxis but let’s credit him for chastising The Saj on behalf of all the non-famous hacking victims.

Just a nod to the fact that it is October 31st, 2019, the UK is not leaving the EU today, and Boris Johnson's Brexit policies have been emphatically repudiated by parliament over and over. Happy Halloween, UK!

Hopefully this should be a fun story that might make the Tories think twice about accusing Corbyn of being pro-Russia.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/31/boris-johnson-accused-report-russia-dominic-grieve

johnson's connections to russia are proven and rife

Pisstape or gtf.

I was called Project Fear for explaining how No-Deal Tariffs work.

Ms Pearson is predicting over 10 trillion pounds of capital flight "overnight."

To put that in context, 10 trillion pounds is roughly the entire Chinese economy. https://t.co/vlhcr6ziST

— Dmitry Grozoubinski (@DmitryOpines) October 31, 2019

Like Brexit, it's a price worth paying, Allison.

You love to see and hear it...

https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/boris-johnson-addenbrooks-hospital-boos-17178558

"Happy Brexit day, Prime Minister". oof.

John Bercow has been snapped by the supremely talented @StefanRousseau of PA arriving for his last day at work. Of course he lives in the House of Commons so it's likely he had to leave and come back in again to do this. pic.twitter.com/JaI6qjoFPP

— Dan Bloom (@danbloom1) October 31, 2019

btw 2 Tories on QT tonight (including Oakeshott) so no need to watch or report back thx

i do wonder what the tories will try with bercow out of the picture

Uh oh. Donald Trump tells @LBC he's warned Boris Johnson his Brexit deal might hamper free trade agreement with the US: 'This deal, to be honest, some aspects of it, you cannot do a trade deal with the UK.'

— Jason Groves (@JasonGroves1) October 31, 2019

Also

Update: Keith Vaz is set to lose the whip after 32 years as a Labour MP https://t.co/GwDUK81ift

— Esther Webber (@estwebber) October 31, 2019

Good.

Indeed

They accidentally did a good one.

🎃 #HappyHalloween pic.twitter.com/kM9AGAgYqI

— Conservatives (@Conservatives) October 31, 2019

lol their ability to make their bad look good is v impressive.

so cheerful!

and have literally visualised something for people.

i do wonder what the tories will try with bercow out of the picture

― koogs, Thursday, October 31, 2019 5:14 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

was wondering about taht after reading about his influence in the process so far a couple of weeks back.
I don't know what the selection process for his replacement is so how good things will be from today.

I see bloke with horrible accent and womans name is massively odds on fav. I suppose he has done his 9 year apprenticeship of yelling shit from 18th century dust books in his horrible accent.

How is he as a Labour man going to be a more pliable speaker than bercow, oh forget it - stupid question!

"The son of former Labour MP Doug Hoyle"

his dad was in the Velvet Underground

What’s wrong with his accent?!

it's not reet! Probably an accent ruined for me by shit people I've worked with and Peter Kay.

Oh God yeah, true, but not all Lancastrians...

Still the best choice accent wise of the runners. (Should have a Yorkshire or Scouse one though).

there is an ace interview with betty boothroyd talking about how her dad was a (scandalous in the 30's) stay at home parent while her mum went to work during the depression. Someone linked it on ILX years ago.

https://sounds.bl.uk/Oral-history/Oral-history-curator-s-choice/021M-OH1CD0297601-0001V0

"take jam and hope for spam" LibDems new campaign slogan there

The last Speaker with a regional accent got absolutely ripped to shreds for having one - remember Gorbals Mick?

who was giving him shit about his accent?

His Glaswegian accent led to his being nicknamed "Gorbals Mick" by Quentin Letts, after the working-class district of Glasgow, although he was actually born on the other side of the river from the Gorbals and represented a constituency a few miles away.[15]

Can’t believe the boarding school twat who’s got a problem with Scottish people was at it again

poor attention to biographical details there by mr Letts, not that it matters because he isn't a journalist - despite whatever he's put on his passport. the total cunt.

Donald Trump is trying to interfere in Britain’s election to get his friend Boris Johnson elected.

It was Trump who said in June the NHS is “on the table”. And he knows if Labour wins US corporations won’t get their hands on it.

Our NHS is not for sale.pic.twitter.com/AUhht3pCgL

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) October 31, 2019

yes

yes they should

fuck.ing.hell.

We would like to make this absolutely clear: The BBC's flagship politics presenter is publishing White Supremacy pic.twitter.com/iRrPsyn3ul

— jewdⒶs // ייִדהודה (@jewdas) October 31, 2019

Day one ppl

andrew KKK neil seems pretty good at deflecting the *controversy* about Britain First type neo-nazi screeds in his shit-rag. It must be a very tough job!

Harman as an early advocate of the welfare bill and the two child tax-credit limit is a "smart and empathetic" choice for speaker of the house according to one of my local MPs :0===

LDs have picked up another ex-tory, antoinette sandbach

something something rat orchestra on the titanic something

Sincerely hope big Ed pickets the co-op

.@coopuk I called you weeks ago about the unacceptably cold conditions for staff at Askern co-op. It is still not sorted after 2 months despite staff complaints and I suspect it is in breach of HSE guidelines. Do I need to picket or are you going to do something? pic.twitter.com/I59Ge1luKP

— Ed Miliband (@Ed_Miliband) October 31, 2019

Hey @BestForBritain Why is your “Tool” recommending voting for Corbyns Candidate in Ilford South when you know that I defied Corbyns Whip and voted against triggering Article 50 and I have always supported a People’s Vote. Is it now your policy to undermine pro European MPs ?

— Mike Gapes (@MikeGapes) October 31, 2019

set up an online tactical voting MRP driven site that recommends Gapes for every seat.

It happened!

Would have to recommend this one much more Mike! Give it a go, seems much more accurate! https://t.co/VkFXd5V5BO

— Harry (@HarryCro) October 31, 2019

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3ofbQ2TiJhE/XFQirPCuSqI/AAAAAAABIs0/ZxNDylR-9EENgCUFDjZes7E4K55T9zBiQCLcBGAs/s1600/Gapes1.png

is dominic cummings off the park now ?

xps

Doncaster is such a fucking depressing and grey dead-zone of featureless flat brownfill and power stations and absolute nothingness, at least if you are feeling cold then at least that is a start on the path to actually fucking feeling something!

sour gapes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGoHpPXW4AAQjoJ?format=png&name=900x900 deeply upset Owen Paterson just out of shot

!!!

Thank you. I was not aware of this site. https://t.co/HlMXYnlP1g

— Mike Gapes (@MikeGapes) October 31, 2019

Clive Lewis handing it down on Newsnight. Fuck billionaires.

Oh well done Harry, excellent work

He’s always at his best during an election campaign

Don't turn over to Question Time, the audience is a Tory/Brexit Party lynch mob.

is dominic cummings off the park now ?

good Q tbh.

And yes, QT managed to find a 18-19 year old Boris stan that wants the marxist opposition crushed! he was too young to vote in the referendum but it ADAMANT that the vote must be carried through.

pace yourselves BBC, the Tory/Brexit Party lynch mobs are a finite resource y'know!

I'm sure the BBC have researchers unpaid interns out scouring the country for them as we speak.

Oakeshit talking about getting abuse off twitter trolls ;; stay strong sister!

I thought I read cummings was going for surgery at end-october and so would not be around post-31st

xp

labour winning the air war on days 1 and 2. early days still tho

The 18 year old Brummie Brexiteer definitely one of the 63% who think violence against MPs is justified.

There’s plenty of plants for all

"Why have you made it impossible for me to vote Labour in this election?" - a small business owner asks Corbyn about his "ruthless" policies pic.twitter.com/R7v8pOFKG3

— Sky News (@SkyNews) May 29, 2017

g'warn young asian woman politics lecturer giving it some to boris for being a racist cunt!

I thought I read cummings was going for surgery at end-october and so would not be around post-31st

I know, I'm interested to know if he'll actually go. Lot of broken promises around todays date...

Telegraph reported yesterday that he’d cancelled whatever the operation is a second time.

does anybody really feel strongly about a London fire chief's pension in relation to the Grenfell disaster? Another one for the dossier #gulagsgetbadpress

christ, that handshake question. fuck off and die the lot of you. ban celebs.

Talking about audience plants, during the discussion on zero hours contracts on QT from South Shields last week, the first audience member to speak was a guy who I'm sure I've seen on other discussion shows talking in favour of them. He was easy to remember because his whole thing was that he was not the sort of person you'd expect to be on a zero hours contract - being a middle aged, middle class, pompous prick. He was certainly not a native of South Shields!

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NP1MSWIljkE/WTLdUrQ-P1I/AAAAAAAA0-8/AehuoBjqnH0HJvw04-9eNqAR0lpoNrBLgCLcB/s1600/QT1.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBbUVUjXcAA8_CM.jpg

lest we forget this classic of the genre!

Yes! Was trying the find the literal top hat Tory who was faking upset about his 0 hour contract last election!

xxp David Lynch is directing QT now?

I’m amazed so many of you are able to watch that fucking thing

I had to turn the sound down when the lynch mob was in full throttle kill-a-Marxist-Remoaner mode.

The SDLP cooking up a storm with all the things they achieved through their 47 years of participation in Westminster pic.twitter.com/sxlx5pGnMt

— Ógra Shinn Féin ⭕️ (@Ogra_SF) October 31, 2019

in some ways the most FBPE tweet of them all https://t.co/YtYl0ueKOh

— ciarán (@schmrn) October 31, 2019

Nigel Dodds took a break from #Brexit to stop new housing in the predominantly catholic areas of his constituency being built.

Why would an MP do that? Modern day gerrymandering, that's why!

Get you, your friends and family on the electoral register and #VoteThemOut #GE19 pic.twitter.com/O3fYw93OQG

— Sarah (@Sal_feeko) October 31, 2019

sorry about too much twitter chain-posting, but just a reminder about what a set of cunts this lot are in the north of the ROI.

move to have this the official new name for the north

Ed Miliband channeling his dad (albeit 4 years too late):

Lots of objections to class war appearing. Totally agree. Assault on welfare state, slashing top rate and corporate tax while imposing cuts on everyone else, driving people to food banks, Universal Credit, pay freezes, growth in zero hours. Where will it end? FFS.

— Ed Miliband (@Ed_Miliband) October 31, 2019

here for fighting culture war with class war

There are 150 billionaires in the UK while 14 million people live in poverty.

In a fair society there would be no billionaires and no one would live in poverty.

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) November 1, 2019

Is anyone feeling optimistic about this? I've got the same sense of crushing doom I had at this stage in 2017.

I am (but concede I may be a fool). there’s a long way to go but labour have had a good start to the air war and BJ looked rattled in his campaign video last night

I will wait until broadcast rules kick in to be really optimistic, but I am pretty convinced that Corbyn is more popular than a flawed system of small-sample push polls (which would be illegal methodology in the US!) suggest, plus the voter registration numbers and Lab/Momentum funds raised this week are both off the charts. My only other time of wariness is on the Saturday eve/Sunday morning before Election Day, when tabloids might break a big spoiler story (last time, that did not happen).

BXP launch at 11 today

Is anyone feeling optimistic about this? I've got the same sense of crushing doom I had at this stage in 2017.

Is anyone feeling optimistic about this?

At this stage, neither optimistic nor pessimistic.

New European stort was that BXP were going to focus entirely on taking Labour votes. I don't think there's anywhere they can do this without also pulling Tory votes even if only in protest and they won't get near UKIP '15 share but I do think a couple of seats are still vulnerable enough to them.

I'd rather save my premonitions for later.

BXP have realised they won't get enough Farage airtime if they're not competing for as many seats as possible, and that includes Tory ones.

People are going in on those LibDem bar charts early which is a smart move. Labour won the social media election last time and a lot will depend on whether they can do it again.

Independent not NE btw

I'm v pessimistic but I've lived thru 50 years of shit government so

Of course Labour will win the social media election, it's how many olds they can snag

The middle-aged vote held on very well for Labour but in some areas is more vulnerable to the LibDems this time, so they need to make them look stupid and/or dishonest early.

I've lived through 40 years of Thatcherism/Blairism/ but I reckon 5 more years of these cunts might just finish me off, so I'm very optimistic about death and the prospect of never getting 5 numbers on the Daily Millions draw, but being optimistic about the prospect of anything resembling socialism in the UK would require some stronger drugs for me!

The middle-aged vote held on very well for Labour but in some areas is more vulnerable to the LibDems this time, so they need to make them look stupid and/or dishonest early.

it's not just the erosion of your opportunities, standard of living and hope for the future, it's the knowledge of just how many people you live among are stupid feckless vicious cunts

Who are these Labour 10%ers?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIRtLkqWoAANJC-.png

The Paul Embry types.

This ‘Corbyn is the Devil’ strategy pursued by some Lib Dems seems pretty fundamentally misguided. The biggest losers from it seem likely to be the Lib Dems, not Labour. (Short thread)

— Paul Bernal (@PaulbernalUK) November 1, 2019

This seems fairly convincing re: Swinson.

Read also that Swinson was intending to do a “presidential” campaign, like that wasn’t completely disastrous for Theresa May.

it's almost as if she's a vacuous moron

swindon really does have an incredibly high opinion of herself huh

What happens when you believe your own hype and hang out with too many journalists.

I see the strategy as providing reassurance to Tories in LD-Tory marginals, so in that sense I can see it. If she appeared neutral the press might have a field day.

doesn’t stop newsnight splashing on the “brexit election” every night tho

Three days into the ‘Brexit election’ campaign and so far it has been dominated by debate over:

- The NHS ✅
- The super rich ✅
- Trump ✅
- Brexit ❌

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) November 1, 2019

does anyone even watch newsnight tho

This seems fairly convincing re: Swinson.

― Matt DC, Friday, 1 November 2019 10:19 (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

If most of their target seats are currently Conservatives, is part of the thinking here to head off the idea that she's going to work with Corbyn? (and lay the groundwork for going into coalition w Tories if necessary)

Read also that Swinson was intending to do a “presidential” campaign, like that wasn’t completely disastrous for Theresa May.

― gyac,

Has been doing this all along, no? I saw a magazine with her on the cover the other day with "Your Next Prime Minister" as the main headline. Its a weird strategy

(as for being disastrous for May, in seats definitely, but she did improve on Cameron's vote share!)

I don't understand this tweet. She needs Tories to switch to LDs?

The main thrust of the plan, to make Corbyn out to be abysmal, seems more likely to make people vote for Boris Johnson’s Tories. That is unlikely to help the Lib Dems as most of their target seats involve beating those Tories.

— Paul Bernal (@PaulbernalUK) November 1, 2019

Because Cameron lost votes to UKIP and May absorbed most of them.

Starting the campaign off right

Jrimmimmby Crobybiby! You have made it completely and utterly impossible for me, CEO of Offshore Tax Havens Plc and prospective member of the House of Lords, and my extremely poor multimillionaire client list, to vote for you and your so-called "people-powered" manifesto. https://t.co/b88ui270lQ

— epiplexis (@epiplexis_) November 1, 2019

"first they came for the billionaires and I said nothing"

Xyzzz - it's tricky for them either way - most of the LDs target seats are Tory-held, so she needs to communicate that she's anti-Corbyn and won't work with him in order to attract liberal/soft Tory voters who are repelled by Johnson and the Brexit policy. However, a lot of these voters are pretty comfortable and might not care about Corbyn one way or another (these people don't really exist in simplistic political discourse but I bet you there are thousands of them out there). The more the LDs ramp up the apocalyptic rhetoric the more it's likely to make them go 'nah, let's stick with the Tories just to be on the safe side'.

It also makes Labour voters less likely to tactically vote LD, even in areas where Labour is nowhere, and they might need those votes.

"and then society was just... better" xp

doesn’t stop newsnight splashing on the “brexit election” every night tho

As I said upthread, Sky's straplines all say Brexit Election.

Re that young headbanger on QT

#bbcqt, a story in 4 parts: pic.twitter.com/Hb0Cq1tmgD

— Insane Clown Pussy (@misslucyp) October 31, 2019

It's only four and a half years since my first experience of a Tory majority as an adult/voter and I'm glad it only lasted a couple of years.

I really think the days of single party majority are over though, with Brexit pulling and pushing against that in roughly equal measure. I'm optimistic and idealistic when it comes to PR but Swinson should be bringing it up again regardless of polls and as much as I want Labour to get as many votes as possible.

The Tories had a net gain of 18 seats in 2015 and it got them over the line but as it is I'll be shocked if they aren't down at least 10 seats after this, hopefully enough to rule out any coalition.

But let's hear from the 'Labour will get massacred' cru itt again some time k

"Read also that Swinson was intending to do a “presidential” campaign"

damn i already feel like i've seen more of her teeth than her fucking dentist has

yeah, i'm fully expecting some kind of narrow coalition after this election, just extremely nervous about which way the chips are gonna fall

Is anyone feeling optimistic about this? I've got the same sense of crushing doom I had at this stage in 2017.

I have a sense of crushing doom when I watch more than 30 seconds coverage of this Brexit Election. Otherwise not too bad, I mean obviously the Tories are going to win.

Part of the issue is that Brexit felt like much more of a foregone conclusion in 2017. It doesn't now.

what do we think of the “tories making shit content for organic shares” theory? BJ’s video last night was shocking and he looked rattled but has racked up 500k views - albeit quite a lot of those will be accompanied by a “ffs state of this” QT

comes back to the is he machieavelli or baldrick question I guess

Yeah even the Happy Halloween one was probably deliberately off key really. I prefer the idea that they keep pushing this more and more that it really backfires of course.

May was always a baldrick, johnson basically is too, however he has his collection of ghouls who are more on the machiavelli side, so dirty tricks are to be expected at the very least

no way does paul m.brie represent 10% of labour voters. mb 10% might take him vaguely seriously

However, a lot of these voters are pretty comfortable and might not care about Corbyn one way or another (these people don't really exist in simplistic political discourse but I bet you there are thousands of them out there). The more the LDs ramp up the apocalyptic rhetoric the more it's likely to make them go 'nah, let's stick with the Tories just to be on the safe side'.

It also makes Labour voters less likely to tactically vote LD, even in areas where Labour is nowhere, and they might need those votes.

― Matt DC, Friday, 1 November 2019 bookmarkflaglink

On your first point I think that those left-wing policies coupled with Corbyn's anti-imperialism is kinda repellant to people on the centre who voted between Clegg and Cameron. Maybe a lot of them can see through some of it in regards to Lab's Brexit policy, or it's Green policy (some overlap between those centre right and Greens too).

Totally agree on the 2nd point though. The LDs have not gone for a balanced approach on this at all.

BXP will have 500 candidates

Means they will be up against most tories, which is good?

game on

oh boy i can't wait to see the calibre of candidates they've managed to rustle up

LOLz, yes.

May was always a baldrick, johnson basically is too,

One of the things that gives me hope is Johnson is a shit campaigner and lazy and useless if goaded or under pressure or faced with people who don't buy into his shitty persona.

There is no way Johnson can accept the ultimatum of dropping the Withdrawal Agreement which is Farage’s ask. Farage must know this so I assume it’s an offer designed to be rejected. So we must assume the Brexit Party will contest virtually every seat. No “leave alliance”

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) November 1, 2019

why can't our big brexit boys just get along ;_;

Day 2 off to a good start

Farage says he is open to being flexible in particular seats.
He suggests, if MPs are willing to renounce Boris Johnson’s deal, his party will stand aside.
And he says there could be informal pacts on the ground between Brexit supporters.

After the election rules kick in and leaders must publish itineraries, all BJ hospital visits will feature crowds chanting NOT FOR SALE.

I'm not optimistic, because this it's the knowledge of just how many people you live among are stupid feckless vicious cunts and because literally everything seems to be fucking awful and will not stop being awful

I don't think Labour will be massacred. but I can see Johnson scraping through

Unseatings I am particularly relishing the prospect of in order: Johnson (assuming he doesn't bottle it), IDS, Nigel Dodds, Mark Choker Field's now vacant seat in the City, BEN BRADLEY FFS, Phil Davies, Soubry, Kawczynski and both Jared and C Williamson as long as labour beat both. JRM losing might be the most incredible one that could actually happen (I think the LD support there may have already nixed this tho).

The most amazing probably unassailable majority in the 'wtf how is this possible' sense remains with Dorries

I was at Labour's official campaign launch yesterday.

JC was inspirational.

The Guardian immediately reported it as: Doubts about JC's future.

Maybe this is really one for the Guardian thread.

s/o to the awful B listers about to be unseated like kirstene hair, ross thomson, ben bradley etc

Nashwan, you forgot Swinson losing to SNP!

I forgot Scotland altogether tbfttl but yes all Tories north of the Wall

No way is Jared O'Mara contesting his seat? Watching Gapes go should be fun as well. Also Chris Leslie.

I forgot Mara had withdrawn too yes, can't keep up

When do those fairness rules kick in?

Excellent from Momentum: https://www.mycampaignmap.com/

'No events found here' lol.

xxp
after Colbyn has had a few more kickings and his stasi collaboration files and a photo of childhood him stomping a rabbit to death have been posted to 40 million homes.

excuse me, he pogo-sticked a rabbit to death iirc

in case you missed the reference

pic.twitter.com/2LdE1hJNoj

— The Trashies (@TheTrashiesUK) November 1, 2019

one's a deranged clown bent on reshaping the world to fit his depraved vision and the other is &c &c

otm

What this highlights is Corbyn’s bravery. That Miliband can come out with this now is worth something but Corbyn’s bravery as leader has created the space. https://t.co/TpI61Aup25

— Tom Gann (@Tom_Gann) November 1, 2019

Corbyn first showed this bravery when he spotted that a friend's rabbit was actually evil and possessed by the spirit of General Woundwort ....

i take some optimism from the grading-on-a-curve situation. (As said, the Tories need a decent majority here to win, Lab just needs enough to cobble together a fuck-Brexit pact.)

Stop Brexit would be lovely/funny but it's hard to get energized about a Labour government strapped to the festering corpse of the Lib Dems when it comes to the real business of actually making this country one percent less shitty

I can't see any circumstances under which the Lib Dems would go into any sort of governing coalition with Corbyn. It would have to be Labour and SNP or Labour, Lib Dems and SNP with a leader of the LD's choosing.

yeah, i was gonna say, swindon has made it abundantly clear that the idea of actually doing something decent for once in her life is abhorrent, so i don't think we'll be seeing a lablib coalition in this timeline

Swindon will be gone on the 12th but possibly replaced by some other abhorrent twat

Agree with all above. I honestly think it's more conceivable LibDem, despite their Brexit stance, would hitch up - again - with the Tories than w/ Labour.

some might even suggest that it's secretly what they're hoping for

oh i think that's entirely possible but it's also possible that a Labour minority government will have to come to some sort of rapprochement with the Lib Dems

True, true.

'secretly' in the sense that they're hoping that the voting public isn't going to notice all the tories they've been hoovering up into their ranks recently and who are now pressing their leering faces against the undulating, straining skein of the libdem body politic as they hunger for the blood of the sick, the poor and the old xxp

and that's just Chuka

he must be excited at the prospect of finally getting the chance to have a real hand in murdering society's undesirables

"We have always been pragmatists not idealogues, and as such we think we are best placed, as Remainers, to steer a clear path into a post-Brexit future alongside the Conservatives, keeping them on the straight and narrow

The country has to come together and it is incumbent on us, the adults in the room, to make the first move and offer an olive branch to those who have a different view on our future. Brexit is going to happen, that much is now inevitable, it can happen without us, or with us, guiding and even leading the process, who better than a strong Remainer to forge a path that avoids the pitfalls of the worst excesses of extremists on our left and right, and begin the healing process

Jo"

just choked back a bit of vomit there, cheers anvil

I bought my laptop second hand from a Lib Dem MP and I just found this weird file that's called "gullible scum ha ha ha". It's just hundreds of bar charts with them in 2nd place, even the seats where they already have MPs.

— Simon Hedges #BeKindOnline (@Orwell_Fan) October 31, 2019

I'm thinking here of the first SNP Holyrood adminstration, which ran as a minority with loads of people who hated them. And look at them now.

Yeah, no chance at all of a LD coalition, especially not a long-lasting one, but it'd be very difficult for them not to support a minority Lab govt's 2nd ref bill.

yeah, i was gonna say, swindon has made it abundantly clear that the idea of actually doing something decent for once in her life is abhorrent, so i don't think we'll be seeing a lablib coalition in this timeline

And Lib Dems never break their promises.

No chance of it from the Labour direction, the Lib Dems meanwhile would go into a coalition with anyone.

apropos of nothing, was just reminded of vince cable's 'erotic spasm' and now my weekend is ruined

Agree with all above. I honestly think it's more conceivable LibDem, despite their Brexit stance, would hitch up - again - with the Tories than w/ Labour.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 1 November 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Except LDs won't help the Tories deliver Brexit. It's a bigger thing for them than tuition fees, and they know the damage from last time they told lies.

Besides, Swinson might not survive this election. I don't actually think they will be able to by-pass the Labour membership's preference for a left-wing leader to select their own leader. Corbyn may not survive but it won't be at the expense of policy.

xps

Vince Cable slash thread y/n?

we're posting in it afaic

There’s no way in Hell that Labour as the largest party would let a junior coalition partner shout the odds on who their leader is.

are their rules to allow for the leadership to change without a leadership election?

oh, bollockspaws...

1,000+ RTs for this absolutely untrue bullshit. Twitter is a joke sometimes. https://t.co/qU3qO61Pa0

— James Ball (@jamesrbuk) November 1, 2019

it's true, twitter is a joke sometimes

Vince Cable slash thread y/n?

― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, November 1, 2019 1:47 PM (twenty-one minutes ago)

To be called "Laying down some heavy Cable"

Memories of Cable's treat!

More good stuff: https://insider.labour.org.uk/factcheck/100-days-boris-johnson-lying/

What utter cunts

MRP PROJECTION - CHELSEA AND FULHAM

CON: 38% (-15)
LDEM: 31% (+20)
LAB: 17% (-16)
GRN: 7% (+5)
BXP: 7%

via @BestForBritain/@YouGov/@focaldataHQ

Another huge swing from both Con and Lab to the Lib Dems here, proving once again that things have changed massively since 2017.

— The Torch (@thetorchsays) November 1, 2019

oh i think that's entirely possible but it's also possible that a Labour minority government will have to come to some sort of rapprochement with the Lib Dems

They almost certainly will and both parties will be up for it in the circumstances. Anything they say beforehand is smoke and mirrors.

Someone called Rob Ford with some soothing words..

1. Most Lab votes in Leave seats Farage is targeting voted Remain in 2016
2. The voters who will find BXP most attractive in such seats likely to be those who voted UKIP in 2015
3. Most of those voters backed Con in 2017
4. Therefore, BXP will typically (tho not always) hurt Con more than Lab in such seats. Just as (and indeed because) UKIP’s collapse in 2017 benefitted Con more than Lab in such seats

Though isn't this relying on the "I've always voted Labour before but..." constituency having remained static since the last election? Notwithstanding that the people who say this in vox pops are invariably lying imo.

I wouldn't fuss too much re the likes of Chelsea & Fulham. The fact they're at the high end of attainable for Labour at all since 2017 still means Labour would need to p much obliterate the LD vote (or not have to contest one) there to take it.

Either that crowd are lying or they’re so statistically insignificant as to make no difference - esp when you consider the massive increases in majorities most Labour MPs picked up last time out.

We’re certain to say goodbye to Ian Austin and John Woodcock this time.

Tom Gann otfm re Miliband.

Labour were 20+ points adrift last time and couldn’t have won the seat unless they literally hoovered up every single LD/Green vote

"I wouldn't fuss too much re the likes of Chelsea & Fulham."

I know, it's just the blatant fiction from these ppl.

otoh I'll probably explode if e.g. Uxbridge & SR and a few dozen other seats ends up with around a 10% gap each between Con and Lab and LD in that order.

That outcome would take a huge (as Swinson's ego) swing towards the libdems. Probably not going to happen.

this is the key point isn’t it - and as we've all been pointing out since 2016, the referendum has absolutely exploded that 2015 coalition

But we also know that one reason why it didn't matter that David Cameron lost a bunch of affluent authoritarian voters to Farage is cos he picked up a bunch of affluent liberals from the Lib Dems. That, uh, might be a lot riskier this time: https://t.co/fH4WJALIN1

— Stephen Bush (@stephenkb) November 1, 2019

as far as I can see

1 most voters are sick to the back teeth of discussion of brexit and other constitutional matters
2 there’s only one party who are focusing 99.9% on non-constitutional issues

feel like that could play out well for them

Absolutely not, get fucked. #JFT96 https://t.co/0KM2ZQc2sl

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) November 1, 2019

U loves to see it. Although this level of hostility towards the murdoch scum press should be standard in the PLP, and any Blairite remnants cosying up to them should be reduced to a pile of wood chips imo

UL2CI

EXCLUSIVE: The Metropolitan Police have passed a file of criminal evidence against @BorisJohnson and Dominic Cummings' Vote Leave campaign to the Crown Prosecution Service: https://t.co/StuGlpb0qK

— Adam Ramsay 🎃 (@AdamRamsay) November 1, 2019

Lol.

Timing

he was cleared of any improper conduct t'other day relating to his mayoral corruption involving his "business acquaintance". I won't have high hopes of anything damaging coming from this either. But you can always hope.

https://i.imgur.com/Rd3c6H6.png
https://i.imgur.com/UJBByR3.png

more disgusting antisemitism from labour as they ally themselves with noted nazi-founded brand adidas

All
Day
I
Dream
About
Socialism

xxp where are those from?

all day i defend antisemitism more like amirite

haha

https://everpress.com/labour-skate-sweater

https://everpress.com/labour-rose

Good James Butler piece about Keith Vaz.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2019/november/decline-and-fall

Please fuck off. https://t.co/B4tYeR5Htx

— Brian Moore (@brianmoore666) November 1, 2019

Was only saying yesterday what a mensch Brian Moore is :)

lol ITV are broadcasting a debate between Johnson and Crumbone but it looks like they haven't invited Jo Swineson

eh? You can't have a room without a main grownup :p

in the last 24 hours mike gapes has been taken in by a tactical voting site that recommends him in every constituency and the political editor of the bbc has had to deny shaving a boy called cyril. it is day 2 of the electoral campaign.

— a a dril (@demarionunn) November 1, 2019

Whatever your politics, this is discriminatory, undemocratic and wrong. Not only is it two blokes deciding to have a debate excluding women, we are not a two party country and the sizeable proportion of the public who want to #StopBrexit won’t have a voice in the room. /1 https://t.co/6wxxPXtdyN

— Chuka Umunna (@ChukaUmunna) November 1, 2019

You quite literally love to see it

Chuka’s right, it’s not a two party debate, they should include the SNP as well.

I feel deprived of the opportunity to hear Swinson talking about her other policy

"encouraging" employers to "avoid" unpaid internships ?

This tweet is one of hundreds I have received today because of a made up story on here suggesting I was involved in some fantasy conspiracy involving the Question Time audience ( a show I don’t even work on). People have taken leave of their senses. https://t.co/O595Ar7iF2

— Rob Burley (@RobBurl) November 1, 2019

can't believe the robert "bobby" zands tweet has done 5k+ retweets

Excuse you, he’s DR Sands

dem running walker at duffield in canterbury ffs

can someone tell the piss wonks to wait until after the tories are destroyed to become the new tories

A would-be MP for Batley and Spen believed aliens were “working with our world Governments” and that she came from a star called Sirius.

Jill Hughes was the Prospective Parliamentary Candidate for the Brexit Party in the West Yorkshire constituency.

They questioned her employment history but also quoted from social media postings and her book, released last year, Spirit of Prophecy.

In the book it reads “the E.T’s, some of them less than Apple Pie wholesome or Positive pumpkins, are already here working with our world Governments, but that’s all hush-hush for now”.

safe to say BXP are probably not seriously going for Batley and Spen

she is a former candidate apparently, but had to post it

stockhausen claimed he came from sirius too iirc, maybe they were neighbours?

I don't think Stockhausen would have been elected in Batley & Spen either tbf.

xenakis, otoh...

xxp
I think I saw Mike Stockhausen taking a piss against the bins behind the Batley Frontiers car-park once, you might be right!

Please fuck off - just for balance. https://t.co/nyMvTimSDt

— Brian Moore (@brianmoore666) November 1, 2019

just for some more balance i think most ugly bastard rugby players and politicians and english people should all be reduced to a pile of wood-chips!

my local RL club has people putting poison around their park field to teach people who don't scoop a lesson. Thats why my dog always has his muzzle on in the park and I get that Wenger style "I din't get a clear view of zis incident" when he lays a massive turd on their pitch.

the LibDems, whose leader accepts donations from Cuadrilla says the tory party are about as eco friendly as one of them fires that some of the people they helped make homeless during the coalition years might keep warm around. Hey, but at least the tories have paused fracking for a couple of months.

xp that’s so evil, is it legal for them to do that?

I'm not on Facebook but apparently there is anti-rugby doggo group where much of the discussion is food laden with rat poison. Real England!

It’s #NationalAlbumDay and I’m still torn. pic.twitter.com/3B1Q6sUE8e

— Mark Eastwood (@mark4dewsbury) October 12, 2019

my local tory candidate is a Leeds Utd fan and would probably love a chat with Michael Dugher about their fave UK music

You boring, boring bastard

I don't get why people are so angry about this (apart from the hashtag obviously). In the absence of an electoral pact the major parties will stand in every constituency surely? https://t.co/gpw0oTmcA0

— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) November 1, 2019

So far the Lib Dems have stood down for two Tories (Dominic Grieve & Antoinette Sandbach) whilst launching high-profile campaigns against pro-remain Labour MPs with tiny majorities vs the Tories & where LDs have no chance of winning (Emma Dent-Coad, Rosie Duffield) #YellowTories

— Rosa (@rosagilbert) November 1, 2019

xxp

@StewartMcDonald @rickyaross OMG Stewart! Ricky Ross tweeted you, he was one of my heroes growing up. Raintown still my fave album ever

— Paula Sherriff MP (@paulasherriff) January 14, 2016

lol

@1BarryGibson Not bad for most albums! but did you hear amazing Cassius Clatter track this am @bbcweekending?

— Barry Sheerman (@BarrySheerman) November 26, 2011

Caught a little of @johnlewisretail music festival really poor no longer aimed at families no great bands a let down from "never knowingly"

— Barry Sheerman (@BarrySheerman) September 10, 2017

Delighted that JohnHumprys @BBCr4today is no stick in the mud in his taste in music!

— Barry Sheerman (@BarrySheerman) February 12, 2016

I thought for a sec that Paula might be a Rick Ross fan there!

This u-turn on fracking days after it was revealed that the tory manifesto was being written by a fracking lobbyist, it stinks of cummings and it makes me fear that there will be a lot more of this stuff to come

Was thinking the same. I doubt many of the protesters in the fracking areas will be convinced that is a u-turn, just a temporary electioneering pause.

it stinks of cummings

Half time in rugby so just time to retweet Cat Smith’s spot on take of Tory con on fracking. You can’t believe a fracking word the Tories say. https://t.co/nuw95Sme9k

— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) November 2, 2019

has the disingenuous ex ILXer and uber remainiac actually noticed there are members of the LibDems who are angry with their party's grasping desperation against remain Labour candidates and comity towards the Tories. It's not just labour voters who are sick of their behaviour.

I wouldn't really have a problem with it if they hadn't stood down in two constituencies. Field one everywhere or GTFO.

I can't believe that even Swinson would be deluded enough to put Walker in a priority constituency and Canterbury certainly isn't that. Feels like the sort of constituency where you field a high profile candidate you don't want in Parliament.

My feeling is he shoots his mouth off too much to be anything more than an electoral liability but he's certainly prominent enough to let the Tory candidate back in.

“half time in the rugby”. fuck off john

good point

ban sport

nah we can let rugby exist today

Several observations about this picture. A thread: pic.twitter.com/wTqjzjuwbU

— Hannah Al-Othman (@HannahAlOthman) November 2, 2019

observations on a fake rugby fan and his scared, uncomfortable looking dog.

I was convinced to take part in the World Cup sweepstakes at work and drew South Africa so I actually have a stake in this one

Shoes in the house was the first thing I thought

Lindsay Hoyle has graced us with a pic as well

Come on England pic.twitter.com/27xqf2Nv1a

— Lindsay Hoyle (@LindsayHoyle_MP) November 2, 2019

Errrrrrrr...

he looks really into that

:D

even the coffee table is out of reach of the seemingly only chair in the room i mean how hard is it to fake this shit convincingly unless you've never seen the inside of a human home before

Monolith just out of shot

i too prefer watching television with the very edges of my peripheral vision

eyes to the right...

Confusion as NO ONE turns up for 'huge' pro Brexit demo in Doncaster this morning https://t.co/aTCCOtbdex

— Alan Bale #FBPE Holds no political allegance (@Ablooty) November 2, 2019

that 4th season of Twin Peaks is where Lindsay is at rn

takes an odd turn towards the religious at the end, but is worth 100 john harris videos this
https://vimeo.com/367369145

oh noes, not this - anything but this

The super-rich are preparing to immediately leave the UK if Jeremy Corbyn becomes prime minister, fearing they will lose billions of pounds if the Labour leader does “go after” the wealthy elite with new taxes, possible capital controls and a clampdown on private schools.

Lawyers and accountants for the UK’s richest families said they had been deluged with calls from millionaire and billionaire clients asking for help and advice on moving countries, shifting their fortunes offshore and making early gifts to their children to avoid the Labour leader’s threat to tax all inheritances above £125,000.

The advisers said a Corbyn-led government was viewed as a far greater threat to the wealth and quality of life of the richest 1% than a hard Brexit.

hey up as soon as i clicked that video it's Preston Road

lot of billionaires down there will be sweating on Corbyn winning

Don't see the difference between that Hull video and numerous Harris ones tbh. Single shot of that detached graffitied house is some prime Real England estate though.

eyes to the right...

― gyac, Saturday, 2 November 2019 12:17 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

vvg

picture of Corbyn with a gorgeous black lab from his insta story
https://i.postimg.cc/WzqCXJ1F/140-B13-F8-0760-4-DE6-B284-D80737071625.png

pic.twitter.com/kQ8ARikeF0

— Kit Caless (@KitCaless) October 31, 2019

hah! typical (well for us crap at dog training) black lab pulling like hell on that lead.

extremely pleased to see this
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIXnCgdW4AIg_BD?format=jpg&name=large

LOL

Who'd've thocht it?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/02/dominic-grieve-calls-for-release-of-report-on-russian-meddling-in-uk

It is understood that the dossier examines allegations that Russian money has flowed into British politics in general and the Conservative party in particular. It also includes claims that Russia launched a major influence operation in 2016 in support of Brexit.

At the telly not me. And turn the dog's head to the screen. pic.twitter.com/KapK8O32y6

— barney farmer (@barneyfarmer) November 2, 2019

They should do this

“One Labour policy wonk impishly suggests the incoming government could follow the example of the Bolsheviks in 1917 and immediately publish highly sensitive documents relating to previous governments.” https://t.co/3Or1czgdTS

— George Eaton (@georgeeaton) November 2, 2019

oh god no the last thing this country needs is to be radically transformed, bring back the adults in the room

I bet some rando Labour policy wonk would have been a bit more nervous about mentioning the Bolsheviks - even in jest - during GE' 17.

The Labour candidate running against BoJo in his constituency seems a decent lad.

I called out Lib Dem PPC @thattimwalker for using a mental health slur as an election slogan and he blocked me, despite me being a fellow party member and former Councillor. 🤷‍♀️

Everybody in Canterbury, vote for the Labour candidate @RosieDuffield1. https://t.co/FKv8xxaxrf pic.twitter.com/nkNe29JVmB

— Chris Ward (@christopherward) November 1, 2019

it's almost as if he's a Tory cunt in disguise

Should I know who Tim Walker is?

Lawyers and accountants for the UK’s richest families said they had been deluged with calls from millionaire and billionaire clients

Name names, you cowards.

xp not really, he's just some Tory hack

Seems likely pic.twitter.com/eiCJaDd21v

— suzanne moore (@suzanne_moore) November 2, 2019

are we even in purdah yet ? blue ticks excelling themselves

I was out on the razz with my friend who’d launched a book and SM was in our group (Mark S was there for a bit, too). She is a lot less confrontational about JC when called on it face to face (“yeah, I know he's a good MP”) by not-blue tick me, which I can’t decide is civility or not, and I was happy enough saying ‘I’m a gentile who doesn’t get into it with Jewish people who don’t like Corbyn on Twitter because I wouldn’t want a moron like Hadley Freeman casting aspersions on me. Also my chicken soup with matzoh balls BANGS.’

She did call me George Monbiot when I said I’d never been in Starbucks, even to pee.

I think this pause fracking stunt was an ill advised manoeuvre. It won't cut the mustard with those opposed to it and if anything it'll piss them off even more and only serves to highlight that labour are committed to stopping it and they aren't.

xp not really, he's just some Tory hack

Apparently a candidate for the Lab left has been selected for Chuka's seat

GRUDGE MATCH

Bell Ribeiro-Addy – Chief of staff and political advisor to Diane Abbott

The selections the past fortnight have produced BAME candidates after concern that none had been selected yet, and they’re in safe seats too.

Chuka is standing in the City & Westminster constituency, not Streatham fwiw. That's currently Mark Field's constituency and will probably return a Tory again but its definitely up for grabs.

OTOH it could end up splitting the vote and returning a Labour MP. There were only 4000 or so votes in it last time.

It might not: according to someone I know living there, Mark Field’s wife (some kind of theatrical agent IIRC) was pretty key in getting a certain type of modern Tory voter to support him. I’d say that a Remainer has a chance and a half there.

Yeah Umunna's a dick for standing there - clearly targeting a seat Labour were particularly close to winning last time. Sutton & Cheam might've been acceptable.

some scoop for wurrance telephene (who I must concede I've never really rated)

jo swinson: squirrel killer pic.twitter.com/WojCjWMGYh

— e. r. dewo (@groovyguyzone) November 2, 2019

lol i was gonna share that earlier

Probably nothing but

Breaking - Dominic Cummings, the prime minister’s most senior adviser, is facing questions over his past activities in Russia after a whistleblower came forward to raise “serious concerns” about the 3 years Cummings spent there after graduating from Oxford. See the Sunday Times

— Tom Harper (@TomJHarper) November 2, 2019

Shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry has written to Mark Sedwill, the cabinet secretary, & the heads of MI5 & MI6 asking what level of security vetting was handed to Cummings when he joined Boris Johnson in Downing St. See tomorrow’s Sunday Times exclusive with @cazjwheeler

— Tom Harper (@TomJHarper) November 2, 2019

The Sunday Times understands that Whitehall is restricting some government business from Cummings, despite awarding him developed vetting (DV) status, which should grant him access to top secret intelligence. See tomorrow’s Sunday Times @cazjwheeler

— Tom Harper (@TomJHarper) November 2, 2019

imagine if Agent Cummings has single-handedly managed to do more damage to the UK than every previous KGB mole put together, you'd have to take your hat off

ffs he isn't even a Marxism–Leninism zealot, he's just a complete twat who gets high on having top jobs and being mentioned in the press a lot.

was at the streatham selection meeting earlier. really glad bell won. think the right's candidate admitting she voted for brexit might have lost a few votes

at least back in the day the Soviet Union recruited an enigmatic group of Lothario alcoholic tankies and homosexuals who looked pretty cool, not fucking psychotic looking baldy twats that look like paedo PE teachers who probably wank over pics of Thatcher

is this news ? why are the BBC splashing on this ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50278634

BIG policy announcement from labour today (tucked away two-thirds down the observer front page)
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2019/nov/02/labour-scheme-homes-energy-efficiency

Doesn’t matter - look at the year on year triple lock increase if you want to know how much they should have been increasing benefits for working age people. It’s still way off pace with the cost of living.

oh yes, otm, not contesting that - just wondering why the BBC are splashing on something that was announced by... george osborne

The BBC are leading news bulletins on the government announcing they will end the benefits freeze in 2020.

The four-year freeze has always been due to end in 2020 and was last confirmed by the government back in January.

It would be news if they decided not to end it.

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) November 3, 2019

sun will rise tomorrow, tories confirm in major pre-election announcement to bbc news