itt: paintings that are plot-points in movies and TV that are terrible paintings (or excellent ones if there are any)

thread can include paintings that are just background provided they are created for the movie or have some link to the movie's being made

(viz the goodfellaspainting which is only just barely a plotpoint iirc) (and is also good not bad imo)

la belle noiseuse dorian gray blah

there was a good one recently actually let me remember

the only good painting, in or out of movies and tv

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/c/c5/Vigo.jpg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20190720000003

https://www.joshwhotv.com/v/1346?channelName=Sir+Mark+Frederick+McKinney

the one in Sopranos is purposely terrible, and wonderfully so

the Dorian Gray one had the virtue of being by Chicago painter Ivan Albright, who was singularly suited to the task.

the one from Ghostbusters is exactly the one I was thinking of when a plot point painting is wretched.

dorian gray is kind of terrific tbrr

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/49/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray-_Ivan_Albright.jpg

oh my first line was definitely 'canonical classics that are good not bad'

http://sensesofcinema.com/assets/uploads/2013/07/Deep-Red-6.jpg

http://paintingsinmovies.com/ir/5/1679.jpg
the cat painting in Eyes Wide Shut always gets me. Lots of wild ones in their apartment, all by Katharina Kubrick.

the other only good painting in or out of movies or tv

https://gazette-eu-west2.azureedge.net/media/35783/big-bobbies-2368nedi.jpg

which is of course van clomp’s masterwork, ‘fallen madonna with the big boobies’, from ’allo ‘allo

Was gonna say

https://paintingvalley.com/images/painting-from-the-royal-tenenbaums-10.jpg

but then I remembered you said 'terrible' not 'terrific'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-kcczAff40

what's on the other wall? an aztec sacrifice? now I'll have to go back and watch

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/17/article-0-0A0FA632000005DC-994_308x185.jpg

'Wetter.'

http://files.umwblogs.org/blogs.dir/8945/files/2014/04/10-ced6084d4e-2.jpg
Painter David Reed loved Vertigo so much he made a piece where he inserted his own work into the background

http://artoffice.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/tumblr_mia7irbhCN1qjp799o2_400.jpg

several more giallos come to mind immediately.

the red queen kills seven times
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMzk5ZDAxNmQtOTY1MC00NzYzLWI5ZGUtMmRhNzBhMzZhMjJhXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTQxNzMzNDI@._V1_.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/207/494183489_95540624d5_z.jpg
the nadir- the plot point paintings of Heroes

dorian gray is kind of terrific tbrr

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/49/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray-_Ivan_Albright.jpg

whoa it looks like one of those google deep dream doohickeys

the bloodstained shadow
https://iv1.lisimg.com/image/8990957/720full-the-bloodstained-shadow-screenshot.jpg

I love this painting 'by' Edward G Robinson in Fritz Lang's Scarlet Street:

https://crackedrearviewer.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/kitty.jpg

might as well drop this here for the entire Night Galley series:

https://dangerousminds.net/comments/a_gallery_of_the_paintings_from_rod_serlings_night_gallery

All of Hancock's art in The Rebel is good not bad

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/8JEnblX2ZJQ48Fgct_yRppVvD6hHvZ1_4ojbLoetHlDzRtT4DIcboUlQWKygw7mfO9L73n4aQczEZkHjM6o

action sequence from same:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs73aPdYvnE

https://home2hollywood.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/gene-tierney-dana-andrews-painting-laura-1944.png?w=720

Gene Tierney portrait in Laura (and also Leave Her To Heaven?)

from queen of the damned (legit one of my favourite movies):

https://iv1.lisimg.com/image/13166142/720full-queen-of-the-damned-%282002%29-photo.jpg

I'm a longtime fan of both Altman and Pialat's Van Gogh movies without being able to find examples. I'm sure the painting was good in both though - just by not being terrible I think.

I would love to do like a 'shreds' variation on a painting biopic, played completely straight in every respect except that the paintings are fucking awful and are in no way representative of the actual artist's work.

The estates of Picasso, Pollock, and Francis Bacon all forbade filmmakers from using the respective artists' work in the films, so the producers had to make knock offs for them all.

Like imagine a sweeping historical drama about Caravaggio and every one of his paintings featured in the film is a close-up of a butthole.

i've been trying to find more of the category i associate best of the badness with: where we encounter a portrait in which a strong rememblance between a living character and the painting implies some dark connection or creepiness or obsession

(vertigo is an example of this, indeed probably a major inspiration for copycat plots, and coppola's dracula is another -- i'm sure there's a bunch of hammer horrors with relevant portraits in them)

i was faintly appalled that this shit-ass painting featured prominently in an episode of watchmen wasn’t created for the show

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Comanche_Feats_of_Horsemanship-George_Catlin.jpg

lol, I kinda love how shit-ass that painting is.

The painting of the first wife in two mrs Carrolls is pretty dire:

https://www.thefilmsinmylife.com/2018/10/the-artwork-in-two-mrs-carrolls-1947.html?m=1

look i just think that if you’re gonna devote yourself to creating semi-racist to fully-racist depictions of the lives of native americans you should at least put a bit of effort in xp

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J0sip_yMWak/UI2PZWxoziI/AAAAAAAAE3M/pBWWP6f35lA/s320/tumblr_lin3euFMJ51qzr3ueo1_r2_500.gif

fake Inchbold

https://i2.wp.com/morseandlewisandendeavour.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/vlcsnap-2017-02-07-20h19m59s450.jpg?w=730&ssl=1

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tYmsVY1-6vM/T8L4fU3xqtI/AAAAAAAAABc/5fqbqCyQZcE/s1600/Chaos.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MQbyqoOWgZ8/T8L4f6md0YI/AAAAAAAAABk/m4FfNf4ym2Y/s1600/Control.jpg

Is...is that a unicorn in the top right of the Comanche painting?

controversial YBA Tom Baker in Vault of Horror

https://bigcomicpage.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/32714424_1691226590931862_2686949798283575296_n.jpg

Obviously this is awesome http://www.triplezed.com/blog/the-art-of-3-men-and-a-baby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAU0BBG5-hw

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-gWP9Fck4C0/hqdefault.jpg

Fritz Lang's The Woman In The Window:

https://images.app.goo.gl/w7oD3RLbBgwuQgpx8

Must make a note not to hotlink from blogspot again, it looks like you've posted it successfully, but nope.

anyway, these

https://i.imgur.com/BArZRir.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4Du2JsA.jpg

and this one

https://i.imgur.com/DCDLIEA.gif

i give you... raul julia as m bison in street fighter

https://cdn1us.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeekus/files/styles/article_width/public/street_fighter-1.jpg?itok=OyOrqnl2

christopher walken and christopher walken’s large adult son in batman returns

https://cdn1us.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeekus/files/styles/article_width/public/batman_returns_0.jpg?itok=o9Xn9NUu

The Witch painting spooked me as a kid. I think there’s an MR James story with a changing painting too?

This is the only evidence I can find online of the painting from Fulci's The Beyond:

@MondoNews who do I have to sleep with to at least get a high quality print of Schweick's painting from Fulci's The Beyond?!!!#luciofulci #thebeyond #sevengatesofhell #eibon pic.twitter.com/DcBgOWulX3

— Robert McQueen (@mcqueen_robert) October 8, 2019

The Witches, I should say (xpost)

yeah dowd the James story is "The Mezzotint"

Ah, thanks! I think I read it about the same time I saw the Witches, I remember it having quite an effect on me.

Abel Ferrara's shit painting of a buffalo features heavily in Driller Killer, drives him over the edge in fact. So blame the fucking buffalo, not him.

https://themovieelite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/driller-killer-buffalo-painting-1200x520.jpg

Wish I could find the story I read as a kid of somebody putting together a jigsaw with no picture on the box that gradually turned out to be a creepy green fungal looking house and when they put the last piece in they found themself inside this place and whatever lived there ate them

this is probably the wrong thread but the way crap artist Julian Schnabel weaves himself into his Basquiat movie (played by Gary Oldman) is so vain and bad and nauseating!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QKxIxEyDPg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/36/57/01/3657015abcdf953625915c6a82c2852a.png

As far as TV shows go, the portrait in Schitt’s Creek is excellent.

https://frinkiac.com/img/S02E18/1229677.jpg

https://i.etsystatic.com/5851351/r/il/8a7050/370274291/il_570xN.370274291_d67a.jpg

https://www.jewishexponent.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/creek1.jpg

Noodle, your story sounds interesting and it got me Googling. This isn't it, but seems like a variant:

https://www.wattpad.com/1796672-a-collection-of-short-scary-stories-the-strangest

https://flintstones.fandom.com/wiki/Adobe_Dick

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EP9aBRtWoAELZ4p?format=jpg

i've been trying to find more of the category i associate best of the badness with: where we encounter a portrait in which a strong resemblance between a living character and the painting implies some dark connection or creepiness or obsession

cousin Barnabas from England looks so much like his ancestor

https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/2480x1400/public/wire/legacy/dark-shadows-jonathan-frid-barnabas-collins.jpg

Terrible paintings, you say?

https://i.imgur.com/kQCNena.png

https://dailyscribbling.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/hound1939-18.jpg

Vincent Price inherits The Haunted Palace from the guy in this portrait:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BY2QzN2Q1YWQtNjk1NC00ZTk2LWJkNDAtZjY1OTM1ZTY1YzlmXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNzc5NjM0NA@@._V1_.jpg

The painting in 'Batteries Not Included' is a plot point (and also NSFW so I'm not posting it in this thread).

it’s not nsfw if it’s art, dahling

I was looking for a photo of the painting in the new Dracula, but got down a rabbit hole of fan art from which I've had to escape as quickly as possible

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/156500155779080396/

https://i.stack.imgur.com/NmYqV.jpg
the thread-starter

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41kat8xhScL.jpg
I've always found the painting in Picard's ready room to be rather lame

I’m having a hard time finding link-able jpgs of the ones I’ve been thinking of, specifically the one of Vince Vaughn nude from Wedding Crashers and the portraits of Alan Rickman and Mos Def from the end of Something the Lord Made

Tom Selleck film Daughters of Satan (1972) where he buys a painting for his wife, but one of the witches in the painting looks just like his wife

3rd image down:
https://thedrunkenodyssey.com/2016/06/10/the-curator-of-schlock-132-daughters-of-satan/

I really liked The Devil's Candy but not so much for the painting
https://twocentspluschange.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/the-devils-candy.jpg

Does Lionel Ritchie’s sculpted likeness in “Hello” count?

absolutely

TOMMY: I like this one. One dog goes one way and the other goes the other.

MOTHER: One's going east, the other’s going west. So what?

TOMMY: And this guy's saying, "Whaddya want from me?" The guy's got a nice head of white hair. Beautiful. The dog it looks the same.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_F5fY63LECJY/SOK9WDbQM3I/AAAAAAAAAgM/REmi-vVCl0M/s400/blog+Pileggi+two+dogs.jpg

i shd have put it in the OP really but i didn't want to divert from the badness i'm after with such pure and unalloyed goodness

originally painted by nicholas pileggi's mum, fact fans

from this picture in national geographic!

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-HE3Gl-ctljc%2FUIJoPxDpUAI%2FAAAAAAAAAoI%2FG0BE6m8gjiQ%2Fs1600%2F284.JPG&f=1&nofb=1

To know beauty one must live with it is def the motto of this thread

https://live.staticflickr.com/3015/4557012334_83d28a8020.jpg

Not a painting, but Frederick Hart's Ex Nihilo sculpture. It plays a big role in The Devil's Advocate. It supposedly had a detrimental effect on Hart's health.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WdWH53nsu8

Wikipedia:

In 1997, Washington National Cathedral asked Hart to join a lawsuit accusing a major motion picture company of copyright infringement for the appropriation of Ex Nihilo in the 1997 film The Devil's Advocate.[41] Over the course of the initial proceedings, "it soon became clear that the filmmakers had simply placed Ex Nihilo on a computer template, removed one figure, and then manipulated the figures."[42]

However, Hart was cautious because in the 1990s plaintiffs in suits against major corporations were sometimes ridiculed in the media as part of public relations campaigns funded by the corporations themselves.[43] "During sessions at US Federal Court over the case that winter, the strain on Hart was wincingly visible."[44] As stress and mounting legal fees took a toll on Hart's health, in 1998, he suffered a stroke.[45]

A federal judge ruled that unless a settlement could be reached the film's video release would be delayed until the case went to trial; the motion picture company then agreed to edit the scene for future releases, and to attach stickers to unedited videotapes to indicate they intended no relation between the sculpture in the film and Hart's work.[46]

After his stroke, “Hart had pursued a rigorous regimen of physical therapy to regain the use of his left arm. He worked as arduously on his rehabilitation as he had on any work he ever created. Expecting to recover fully, he continued to sculpt almost every day… He was unaware that cancer was invading his body. Three weeks before he died, he became debilitated by pneumonia. It wasn’t until a couple of days before the end that the rapidly spreading cancer was discovered.”[45]

Hart died on August 13, 1999, two days after doctors at Johns Hopkins Hospital diagnosed him with cancer.[15]

"to know beauty one must live with it"
— akasha, queen of the damned

https://i.imgur.com/TUl3MBy.jpg

http://paintingsinmovies.com/ir/5/354.jpg

Bacon's 'Figure with Meat (Head Surrounded by Sides of Beef)' in Batman.

The painting is featured in a scene where the Joker and his henchmen destroy several works of art. However, the Joker spares Figure with Meat, saying, "I kind of like this one, Bob. Leave it.". Jack Nicholson as the Joker then sits down with Kim Basinger and has a discussion where he declares, "I am the world's first fully functioning homicidal artist."

Alec Guinness in The Horse's Mouth

https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2014/06/05/02598970-092f-4fb0-bf12-5f6f5bbd0ddf/thumbnail/640x465/3ec21e269ecbed5efcac88b8193834fc/alec-guinness-the-horses-mouth.jpg

that haircut is a work of art in its own right

baggyAG

I went to an exhibition of these paintings in Shoreditch years ago... oh, and "Aphrodite at the Waterhole" was there two.

https://bigfatarts.com/pages/shapeism

Don't know about shapeism, I thought the paintings were supposed to be of the Infantile School.

Can't believe I'm first to post this. It falls into the 'excellent' category, like the novel but unlike the film:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Fabritius-vink.jpg

Surprised nobody has mentioned The Quince Tree Sun yet

ppl aren't mentioning these actual real paintings by actual real painters bcz the fake and terrible paintings made for movies are better and it explodes the lie of art

https://www.billboard.com/files/media/lionel-richie-hello-video-1984-billboard-650.jpg

(by all means carry posting real art by real artists tho, let the explosion continue!)

two child artists, from la grande bellezza:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNzY1NzgwNjItMmE5ZS00Y2MzLTgzNGMtMGIyOWYzNDkzODMyXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNDE5MTU2MDE@._V1_.jpg

and parasite:

https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/73497389_139716164108607_1403751647927976973_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=103&oh=19cad6c5188bc58c767e017e8e280ac1&oe=5E6EE2C2

I would expect sculpture to be much more common in film than painting, though I’m not sure why; sculpture as mise en scene seems more natural.

i haven't seen it for c.25 years but some of gillies mackinnon's small faces (no relation) was filmed at the glasgow school of art and used paintings almost as intertitles, if i'm remembering correctly. i can't find any links on the net, googling small faces paintings brings up nightmares redolent of illustrations feat.paul weller that make you think

(at the time i didn't think it worked especially well but i was speed-watching as part of a project abt pat barker's regeneration -- his next film -- so might just have been not in the mood for whatever it was aiming at. and the fact of it as a device has clearly stuck with me)

https://i.imgur.com/pVHnCJX.jpg?1
https://m0vie.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/doctorwho-dragonfire4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Yad4JQF.jpg?1

Edward Peel's villain delivering this dramatic monologue in front of the rubbish ice statue of his dead wife in an episode of Dr Who

A work of artistry, my friend. Incandescent artistry. I could almost believe Xana lives again. A unique beauty, yes, but more than that, a criminal genius also. Oh, what a waste. It should have been I who was killed escaping arrest, not you. The whole of eternity has held its breath for this moment. But no one must ever see your work. It exists, that is enough. No one can ever look upon your work and live. Gaze on it and die fulfilled.
(Kane places his bare hands on the sculptor's face and freezes him to death.)

is that an ice organ i spy in the background? this was an aesthetically rich episode, it has bricolage and everything: "One of the guard's lines, about the "semiotic thickness of a performed text", is a quotation from Doctor Who: The Unfolding Text, a 1983 media studies volume by John Tulloch and Manuel Alvarado. Story editor Andrew Cartmel had suggested that writers read The Unfolding Text to familiarise themselves with Doctor Who and its history, which inspired Ian Briggs to quote the academic text in his script"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd9U3ecCcAAnBiM.jpg

Are those Staffies in the GoodFellas painting?

ah sorry I only just noticed you literally referenced the two dogs photo in the og post!

don't apologise the thread needed the picture!

This is from the game not the show but it looks exactly the same
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/aceattorney/images/c/c8/Grossbergoffice.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20151016234529

pleased to report btw that data's picture from PICARD -- aka the threadstarter -- remains the worst in the thread (and also galactic cultural history)

What about the paintings Data painted in TNG?

https://i.stack.imgur.com/du4by.jpg

https://i.stack.imgur.com/rHJIj.jpg

If we're including statues then here's the one from 'Conan The Destroyer':
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/9/9b/Dagoth_statue.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131223174724
Also the statue from the David Niven movie 'The Statue':
https://www.diomedia.com/imagePreview/01AT6DTD?imageId=17827553&imageCode=01AT6DTD&contributor=Keystone+Pictures+USA&siteName=www.diomedia.com&title=&location=&ds=760&newStyle=1&tc=FFFFFF&tbc=333333&qv=95&icc=1&cl=1

If, like me, you're somewhat of a Niven fan and haven't heard of that movie, it's because it's awful.

xp to tuomas: they're not as bad (they're very bad, the top one less so maybe, but they're not as bad)

https://www.christies.com/img/LotImages/2006/NYR/2006_NYR_01778_0531_000().jpg

https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/contimission/data-art2.jpg

https://i.stack.imgur.com/5axq0.jpg

Apparently the paintings Data made in "Birthright" were actually auctioned at Christie's:

https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/datas-paintings-4780095-details.aspx

AI bot sculpture still has some way to go

https://www.scifi-movies.com/images/contenu/data/0000066/photo-l-age-de-cristal-logan-s-run-1976-3.jpg

That top one toumas posted looks like hockney vomiting acyrilic paint in anger over one of his worst paintings

is it a picture of the charge of the light brigade? the LB as vomited bright red acrylic wd be good art praxis if so

(i like when data's approach is overly algorithmic tho, someone is paying attention in the correct directions even if the picture comes out crappy) (this does not apply to the threadstarter which is in the "spooky resemblance of ancestor to current character" mode lol)

The statues in Robert wise’s the Haunting are good: https://m.imgur.com/gallery/3RCr3le

Though expanding to sculpture risks overwhelming the topic with statues of Christ.

https://i.imgur.com/sRDrwnM_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

statues of christ sculpted by data are welcome

the secret history of st:tng is that it's actually a seven-season polemic about how synthetic life is bad not good (cf data actively threatening the lives of the crew on multiple occasions and being bafflingly reinstated to his vitally important duties after every single one) and his shit-ass paintings are one of the major clues that something is profoundly and unredeemably RONG with him

As far as Dark Shadows goes, there is a painting that features more prominently in the bits I am (I’m exactly halfway through the series now) - Cassandra’s portrait. https://images.app.goo.gl/32WQKrq5hXSjmTr19 Which is...not great. Barnabas’ is clearly better.

https://darkshadowseveryday.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/498-dark-shadows-angelique-portrait.jpg

Good rundown of all the Dark Shadows portraits, good, bad and hideously ugly:

http://dsb4idie.blogspot.com/p/old-house-portraits_8.html

Thanks for that link, Josefa!

If we're expanding the field to include other artistic media might I throw jackietreehornsketch.jpg into the ring

loved this film as a kid

https://i.imgur.com/fY4V8BD.jpg

From 'Dr. No' (1962), a painting of the Duke of Wellington that had been stolen in 1961.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/d4/05/84d40597db91634668b245236d09e6ca.jpg
Not a plot point as such, but it adds to Dr. No's characterisation as a high end criminal.

Also "that painting from 'Skyfall'", also known as 'The Fighting Temeraire'.
https://paintingvalley.com/images/skyfall-painting-21.png
Again not really a plot point, more of a character/relationaship development point between Bond and Q.

'Skyfall' also has another painting in it, which itself is a reference to the stolen painting gag in 'Dr. No'.
http://paintingsinmovies.com/m/view/id/56

dodgeball: a true underdog story (2004) dir: rawson marshall thurber

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.shopify.com%2Fs%2Ffiles%2F1%2F0813%2F8015%2Fproducts%2FScreen_Shot_2015-05-22_at_15.30.05_1024x1024.png%3Fv%3D1447860765&f=1&nofb=1

https://i.ibb.co/gZgQHjP/FB-IMG-1580916073109.jpg

Reminded me of this:

https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/2019/07/img_8567.jpg

2 from fire walk with me: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVssMJsCQAQST2G.jpg
https://66.media.tumblr.com/7e2cfc28d63ce5319a7834df89f74f74/tumblr_pm81qeNdPI1x5d6ybo4_500.png

Painting of Amy in a previous incarnation from fright night:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/da/c0/95/dac0955530fb4b0768fabf52ff55c97d.jpg

Ghostbusters 2 was mentioned already of course, but forgot about this one

https://i.etsystatic.com/6958508/r/il/028757/1140560861/il_570xN.1140560861_d6uq.jpg

that's an extremely poor rendering of ernie hudson

how about movies or shows where a prowler lurks behind the wall, peering through the eyes of the portrait!!! spooky stuff!

excellent one imo

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/35/7e/68357e9cabfaa44ca5e028e4bdf52504.png

sorry should have pointed out NSFW!

but prob doesn't count as it's not movie originated

excellent art, not a plot point.

https://i.imgur.com/TREYzP1.jpg

Aren’t there some gaudy paintings of biff & Lorraine in trump-biff’s mansion in bttf2? Can’t find online

The wonderful opening sequence of the TV “What We Do In the Shadows” is full of amazing not terrible art:

Loved the Raul Julia thing, had no idea he played M Bison, and made the mistake of learning more. Of course he filmed this, his last role, when he was dying of stomach cancer so his children could see him in a movie they'd enjoy ;_;

Bojack Horseman has a bunch, some plot pants some just there

https://www.dailyartmagazine.com/all-art-in-bojack-horseman-series/

https://images.app.goo.gl/PBkWwkLNTx9iSHx28
https://images.app.goo.gl/M1K8Bp5eABuxeThP9
https://www.dailyartmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/s01e08.png
https://www.dailyartmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/s02e01.png
https://www.dailyartmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/s02e02.png
https://www.dailyartmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/9396ee6cea4e36e103b131998541fad8735e7e97da2fecacabe4d559fdc82fe9.jpg

Bojack Horseman is incredible on so many levels

futher evidence of data's crimes against art:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogFxgtsypBc

the case for the defence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29-iFOEOgIM

things i've been hunting for meanwhile = wall art in 50s and 60s cartoons, esp.the hubleys at UPA

Here to show critical support for Data's artworks!

Re: action painting there is one depiction of it in Pasolini's Teorema.

I can't remember what the painting in Quince Tree Sun looks like :-( Want to think it's good because I liked the film so much.

jean luc picart

again def not plot point but always liked this discovery - https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2014/11/stuart-little-leads-to-lost-painting

Is there action painting in one of the original Bedazzled vignettes with Eleanor Bron? Feel like there is but can't be arsed to Google.

Or like I could've confused it with If..... or somethink

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EMjd-S0Zd8s/Ux5mW6_nssI/AAAAAAAACZU/EqofiIjkryU/s1600/732_2.jpg

Recent horror drug thriller "Bliss:"
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/hPcm_Te2QGq3PIyWIH3GWYM5r4YB16yiKtKxOtYxjQth4AAxd-lVhzLlyc1jImn1fCFcW4pzXmLPcLcAgVFT1EOBeBbaMyWAVfmexDRudGEVE7xke0KTtpf9ogIk3YS0nSMKzb0Q

https://rjamahoney.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/ba-1.png?w=600&h=338

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vzpaZko9yGk/W48WBzP24hI/AAAAAAAAEZE/uLUNYZmRyGk8QNf4Wbinb_MtHC8TZSYGQCLcBGAs/s640/Screen%2BShot%2B2018-09-04%2Bat%2B4.10.22%2BPM.png

https://i.imgur.com/tQ1mqX2.png

There's probably a ton of terrible paintings in Velvet Buzzsaw but I am not going to seek them out.

So why do film people hate painting so much? Static visual art is only a bit boring leave it alone lol.

https://i.ibb.co/d2VF3Vq/1961-photo-rebel-tony-hancock-picture-1-9fd1c4b1224a666a410a5581a73f4e55.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/QMdXkgY/rebel-1961-12102201.jpg

we dont hate it we love it u buffoon

Film people = the ppl that make films not ppl posting on the thread. Just wondering out loud why the paintings are mostly bad.

ah yes that's a key question -- there was a special sight and sound supplement on this topic ("art in movies") when i worked there, i shd dig out out and see if it's better than this thread (it won't be)

it's probably 30 yrs since i watched this (i didn't like it then):
https://anotherimg-dazedgroup.netdna-ssl.com/900/azure/another-prod/350/4/354103.jpg

Dali for Spellbound

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7G6jzvD0s10/WWXMJQ9UbHI/AAAAAAAAZv0/3mZUXHjNwtwjnICzYwnWkdSAUFRuNBK6wCLcBGAs/s1600/spellbound-1945-dream-salvador-dali.jpg

The House on the Corner (I'll Never Forget You), 18th c. painting bears striking resemblance to Tyrone Power:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-foQGhoev1cM/UiS3iaTjAXI/AAAAAAAAJdc/E0MfGXfRGPY/s1600/11.JPG

Okay which movie am I trying to remember that features a scene where someone is perhaps getting torn apart/murdered and they're screaming - whilst the camera flashes to a series of paintings on a wall where the portraits just look on in nonchalance
?

(it's possible the 'victim' was maybe just having sex instead)

More noir in the ‘Two Mrs Carrolls’.

https://www.sartle.com/sites/default/files/images/blog/tumblr_inline_o3p50a6eLi1sthg2o_540.png
https://andyoucallyourselfascientist.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/ttmc47-painting3c.jpg

http://getdrawings.com/image/the-real-rose-drawing-from-titanic-60.jpg

https://i.stack.imgur.com/1sGiY.jpg

http://dailygrindhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Live-and-Die.jpg

Ste are you thinking of bad timing? various kilmt paintings act as quasi-voyeurs to everything that happens to theresa russell (which doesn't include her murder but does include an emergency operation to save her life depicted as a brutal bodily invasion)

https://i.stack.imgur.com/6tJle.jpg

(there are so many Napoleon Soprano w/Pie-Oh-My knock offs out there...)

Art School Confidential may be meh, but the bad art is fantastically bad

https://i1.netflixmovies.com/dibsl9ebc/image/upload/w_1920,h_800,c_fill,g_faces,q_62/u5xckpeocl1if7qniwiz.jpg

http://somamagazine.com/site/wp-content/uploads/Art-school.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p64Y_Kfib3M/USw5wkQEaWI/AAAAAAAAFCY/ktuh1a_RcDk/s1600/Richie_Margot_drawings.png

Mark, I might be thinking of Trading Places when Dan Aykroyd is arrested in the chambers. Didn't they cut to the shots of paintings on the wall of past chairmen or something looking on in disgust?

i think there might be a TP scene where snooty old portrait people look on in disdain but i don't think anyone gets dismembered (or even has sex onscreen)!

haha yeah i got that bit way off

just reporting that the painting scenes in Portait of a Lady on Fire are probably quite as realistically formulaic and unremarkable as the work of an 18th century society portraitist would be, well with the caveat that I fell asleep halfway through and will catch up on "episode 2" tonight!

https://media0.giphy.com/media/VdEphHnbfxOqNrJZwn/source.gif

12 monkeys
https://www.tvequals.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/12-Monkeys-Syfy-Mentally-Divergent-Episode-2-18.jpg

(in the book eustace is further docked aslan kiss-ass points bcz he correctly prefers modern art to bad narnian hyperrealism)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9-vFCM6H4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNPy9TU4kq0

http://paintingsinmovies.com/ir/5/344.jpg

I just found this site:

http://paintingsinmovies.com/m/main

How'd we miss this one?
http://paintingsinmovies.com/ir/5/304.jpg

there's also an "art in the movies" blog: https://artinthemovies.wordpress.com/

(but i'd prefer ppl contribute things they themselves know or remember or have a relationship than just raid other ppl's lists!) (tho by all means use these places to remind yrself of such relationships)

Yeah, for the record those last couple were from memory! This one, too:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/eh9jM6kgRho5-RI5vUO1DN3ub3thHkOB35SkoeZHm67DMNHPCWp8p-5cbFTx39wZC9GQn51XWmB6KEzM_NgclrZavPXvcR2D-mxwP6FZNo3LOO5Rbooocj6lKOs_5GBfzT-exgm4hpMXZo_IZ1XO5NIWojagxyFIYSDKEJfLAnlTmhDy0tyXg1ieIHEsBJxzU-M

https://offscreen.com/images/made/images/articles/_resized/cave_of_forgotten_dreams-big_1000_420_90_c1.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6e/85/a3/6e85a33f117354628e592ae3ff8b4012.gif

https://i0.wp.com/www.tor.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/KikiAndUrsula-740x405.jpg

just reporting that the painting scenes in Portait of a Lady on Fire are probably quite as realistically formulaic and unremarkable as the work of an 18th century society portraitist would be, well with the caveat that I fell asleep halfway through and will catch up on "episode 2" tonight!

― calzino, Friday, 7 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Lol oh no watching that next week

I didn't mean it was boring or bad.. I was rather tired and it was late.

I loved it

Yeah sometimes 2am screenings are good but only if I stay awake

just for more clarity when i said "formulaic and unremarkable" i didn't mean the actual movie but more like the chocolate box rigidity the society portraitist depicted in the movie is working within, maybe that changes by the end of the movie idk but it seemed quite excellent!

When it comes to use of art I thought it more noticeable how hilariously fake the commoner choir music sounded. Great film though

does this one from Popeye count?

https://i.imgur.com/ExWk4re.jpg

lol need to watch popeye again, i love it

There's a nice Brueghel in Solaris iirc. He recreates another with live people in Mirror.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/nAmyu.png

rivendell painting very much in the data school

No plot to it but the ending of Andrei Rublev was great (as in wtf have been watching this for the last 2.5 hours)

https://youtu.be/0wvhOPX2DFw

https://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/images/4767e.jpg

odd man out & bonus production still

https://images.app.goo.gl/MDFWExuiAjwr54sx7

Herschell Gordon Lewis's Color Me Blood Red. Don't laugh, it's on the Criterion Channel.

trust me, it's bad

Russian Ark

https://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/11530394/960full-russian-ark-screenshot.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/%7BED791D92-68A3-45C7-843F-4AB22AB96489%7D/picture.JPG

Man, I love that movie.

Let’s not forget about Mel Chin’s quasi-conspiracy to put art out on Melrose Place: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.artnews.com/art-news/news/remembering-when-melrose-place-became-a-conceptual-art-project-mel-chins-gala-committee-returns-this-fall-6750/amp/

https://img.posterlounge.co.uk/img/products/480000/475576/475576_poster_l.jpg https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/360/1211/09/original-wings-love-print-1970s_360_caad92f9beeab032c66f8865a8e98e8b.jpg

^ name the tv production

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wsok3eSm0D0/U8s4xX5dCTI/AAAAAAAAGMw/8WYmVvY_6ng/s1600/Schiele.jpg

just reporting that the painting scenes in Portait of a Lady on Fire are probably quite as realistically formulaic and unremarkable as the work of an 18th century society portraitist would be, well with the caveat that I fell asleep halfway through and will catch up on "episode 2" tonight!

― calzino, Friday, 7 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Lol oh no watching that next week

― xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

I didn't mean it was boring or bad.. I was rather tired and it was late.

― calzino, Friday, 7 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

I loved it

― wee jim o’conor (wins), Friday, 7 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

I loved the film too but yes the ironing is how, in the end, this is an utterly unremarkable portrait. The film cleverly plays with the idea of either destroying it -- the one time my friend gasped was when the first effort was killed off -- or not fully displaying it to us the viewer. Looking back there is something astonishing about all of the training, skill, effort, study, love (and love and more love), aesthetics, art and yet...there is very little to show for it. Not that you mind at all, you lived through its creation, That was more than enough, but it may offer an insight or two in the puzzle with which this thread is concerned with.

looks one of my image links broke but it was 'wings of love' as featured in abigail's party, a terrible but also amazing painting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wings_of_Love_(painting)

After the Second World War, shops such as Woolworths sold large numbers of colorful and sentimental or 'exotic' prints.[6] As a commercially reproduced picture, Wings of Love was sold ready-framed in many high street outlets, and became a best-selling image in the early 1970s. By 1992, 2.5 million copies of Wings of Love had been sold, many outside of the UK.[7][8]

The most notable appearance of Wings of Love was in a mural commissioned for a wall beside one of Saddam Hussein's many swimming pools in his palace.[9] The mural was recreated in the form of a projection on the wall of the Platform Arts Gallery, Belfast, in February 2009. In the exhibition ‘Taste: The New Religion’, at Manchester's Cornerhouse Arts Centre, Wings of Love finds a place beside pictures by Vladimir Tretchikoff, John Lynch and Peter Lightfoot as an example of the independent course of popular taste. Andrea Patrick Byrne, an award-winning London-based artist, references Wings of Love in her 2014 audiovisual self-portrait Girlhood.[10]
Popular culture

The print house Athena owed much of its resurgence in the 1980s to selling kitsch prints of a fantasy-world type, such as Unicorn Princess, Beach Lovers and A Dolphin Moon, that were inspired by Stephen Pearson's work.[11] Wings of Love was immortalized on the wall of Stan and Hilda Ogden's house in Coronation Street[12] and the painting also achieved cult status through its appearance in the 1977 film of Mike Leigh's play Abigail's Party,[13] In the film, the painting provokes a heated debate on the nature of "erotic art"; this culminates in Beverly Moss's husband Laurence dropping dead of a heart attack. The film Mona Lisa also features Wings of Love as part of recurring references to surrealism.[14]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51cwKvvhYvL._SX425_.jpg

when i was clearing out mum and dad's attic i was startled to encounter a vast print of "wings of love" -- my absolutely stumped confusion makes me think i may never properly have watched abigail's party -- as i did not recognise it and it is a seriously unexpected image just to happen on (it was stored there by someone my sister know, who collects film memorabilia and had been temporarily embarrassed for storage space)

https://live.staticflickr.com/4480/24097904808_9ab1284082_b.jpg

(thread ends with ppl posting increasingly large embeds of wings of love)

it was stored there by someone my sister know, who collects film memorabilia and had been temporarily embarrassed for storage space

saddam hussein?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUA6SR3rZT8&feature=emb_title

Portait of a Lady on Fire is a really fine movie.. and the actual portrait is nuff shite! I was thinking the movie was working on themes of the discrepancy between memories, sensations and love and everything and the limits of artistic presentation or something, but then at the end you see music doing what the painting failed to do. Just sketchy thoughts here - i don't do coherent posts I'm afraid!

luckily the antiques auctions in shropshire are very flexible about the rules surrounding WMDs of unstated provenance

Scuds of Ludlow

never really noticed it before, and i know it has more obvious failings with regard to the laws of science, but the woman's shadow is really wrong in the wings of love

airbrush card revoked for that fucking arm on the bloke as well or was that a feature of the painting.. i can't remember tbh!

i suppose the shadow would actually make sense if the sun was on the left hand side of the painting, i always assumed that was the sun under the swan, but duh it's the moon isn't it? the moon of the giant night swan

that's best thing about athena surrealism-lite, you can just make it up as you go along!

yes it's not so clear in the version i posted, which has misleading glare in the top left corner -- in nick's there are clearly two lightsources, the moon and a redder source off to the left in what we can see, which reddens the pool of light the lady is sitting in as well as the outer wings of the bird (somewhat mysteriously in respect of the wing on the right side, unless there's a third light source off to the right, also red)

The mysteries of love

The painting of the woman on fire does the same thing as the music, though? It helps her remember and relive what happened. It's not Vivaldi, sure, but what is?

this old ep of "law and order" ("hands free") has some very schnabel-y art in it, but i can't find pictures on the internet :(

There was another Morse 🎨 last night, the lad knows what he likes

Have we talked about The Sandpiper yet?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/11/ef/4111efc1282e423f96a6436d46e1f609.png

Schalcken the painter (1979) incorporates a lot of his paintings, but the one the story centres around had to be created for the film. It’s described in the opening of LeFanu’s story:

There exists, at this moment, in good preservation a remarkable work of Schalken's. The curious management of its lights constitutes, as usual in his pieces, the chief apparent merit of the picture. I say apparent, for in its subject, and not in its handling, however exquisite, consists its real value. The picture represents the interior of what might be a chamber in some antique religious building; and its foreground is occupied by a female figure, in a species of white robe, part of which is arranged so as to form a veil. The dress, however, is not that of any religious order. In her hand the figure bears a lamp, by which alone her figure and face are illuminated; and her features wear such an arch smile, as well becomes a pretty woman when practicing some prankish roguery; in the background, and, excepting where the dim red light of an expiring fire serves to define the form, in total shadow, stands the figure of a man dressed in the old Flemish fashion, in an attitude of alarm, his hand being placed upon the hilt of his sword, which he appears to be in the act of drawing.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/61/Attempted_restoration_of_Ecce_Homo.jpg/170px-Attempted_restoration_of_Ecce_Homo.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Smiling_girl_%28Fake_Vermeer%29.jpg/220px-Smiling_girl_%28Fake_Vermeer%29.jpg

Was about to post the goodfellas dog painting but then re-read the og post. Do you know the story behind that? I love it so much.

only that it's by nicholas pileggi's mom (he's the journalist who wrote the original book the film's based on) and it's inspired by a photo in (i think) national geographic

Since this thread was last active, I re-watched Corman's Fall of the House of Usher, which has some really quite effective portrait paintings by Majorie Cameron associate Burt Shonberg, as shown here:

http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/2013/04/13/burt-shonbergs-poe-paintings/

love this thread, might spend my evening re-living it

Another painter from Marjorie Cameron's circle is Renate Druks, a Viennese emigre who moved to the US. She was close to Anais Nin, and also involved in the film world through acting in Kenneth Anger's Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome (one of her party events provided the inspiration for the film). She also had some role in providing art work for Curtis Harrington's film 'Games':

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uLIw2QJR2Es/UT-oof1c_JI/AAAAAAAABG4/6Zjc2KHnqhg/s640/games_21.png

http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/usher6-big.jpg

Lemmy on the naughty step in hell for wearing a nazi hat!

Mr Turner

https://www.filmaffinity.com/us/filmimages.php?movie_id=324035

(dangit!)

truly cursed!

Try that again.

https://www.filmaffinity.com/us/filmimages.php?movie_id=324035

I say! Time to give up the ghost!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jQLgZLaEUo

rewatching goodfellas and just reached the painting :)

(its good not bad)

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5f257383d68fbe07dae9c644/35d1e27e-2a4c-4cd7-8688-115a3a0ccd88/3f827875174021d97c4bd9f04a4fe85c.jpg

https://darkshadowseveryday.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/strange-paradise-portrait.jpg

just rewatched QUEEN OF THE DAMNED (2002) real title A SECRET HISTORY OF VERY BAD ART (ALSO SCULPTURE)

the only good movie btw

There’s that French tv series, The Art of Crime, where every episode has these … except the ones with sculptures.