itt: paintings that are plot-points in movies and TV that are terrible paintings (or excellent ones if there are any)

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thread can include paintings that are just background provided they are created for the movie or have some link to the movie's being made

(viz the goodfellaspainting which is only just barely a plotpoint iirc) (and is also good not bad imo)

mark s, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:10 (five years ago)

la belle noiseuse dorian gray blah

there was a good one recently actually let me remember

TOO LOW, the Curator (imago), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:11 (five years ago)

the only good painting, in or out of movies and tv

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/c/c5/Vigo.jpg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20190720000003

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:12 (five years ago)

https://www.joshwhotv.com/v/1346?channelName=Sir+Mark+Frederick+McKinney

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:12 (five years ago)

the one in Sopranos is purposely terrible, and wonderfully so

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:13 (five years ago)

the Dorian Gray one had the virtue of being by Chicago painter Ivan Albright, who was singularly suited to the task.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:14 (five years ago)

the one from Ghostbusters is exactly the one I was thinking of when a plot point painting is wretched.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:15 (five years ago)

dorian gray is kind of terrific tbrr

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/49/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray-_Ivan_Albright.jpg

mark s, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:16 (five years ago)

oh my first line was definitely 'canonical classics that are good not bad'

TOO LOW, the Curator (imago), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:17 (five years ago)

http://sensesofcinema.com/assets/uploads/2013/07/Deep-Red-6.jpg

unobtrusive ambient poll participant, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:19 (five years ago)

http://paintingsinmovies.com/ir/5/1679.jpg
the cat painting in Eyes Wide Shut always gets me. Lots of wild ones in their apartment, all by Katharina Kubrick.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:21 (five years ago)

the other only good painting in or out of movies or tv

https://gazette-eu-west2.azureedge.net/media/35783/big-bobbies-2368nedi.jpg

which is of course van clomp’s masterwork, ‘fallen madonna with the big boobies’, from ’allo ‘allo

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:22 (five years ago)

Was gonna say

https://paintingvalley.com/images/painting-from-the-royal-tenenbaums-10.jpg

but then I remembered you said 'terrible' not 'terrific'

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:23 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-kcczAff40

mark s, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:24 (five years ago)

what's on the other wall? an aztec sacrifice? now I'll have to go back and watch

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:24 (five years ago)

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/17/article-0-0A0FA632000005DC-994_308x185.jpg

'Wetter.'

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:25 (five years ago)

http://files.umwblogs.org/blogs.dir/8945/files/2014/04/10-ced6084d4e-2.jpg
Painter David Reed loved Vertigo so much he made a piece where he inserted his own work into the background

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:27 (five years ago)

http://artoffice.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/tumblr_mia7irbhCN1qjp799o2_400.jpg

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:29 (five years ago)

several more giallos come to mind immediately.

the red queen kills seven times
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMzk5ZDAxNmQtOTY1MC00NzYzLWI5ZGUtMmRhNzBhMzZhMjJhXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTQxNzMzNDI@._V1_.jpg

andrew m., Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:35 (five years ago)

https://live.staticflickr.com/207/494183489_95540624d5_z.jpg
the nadir- the plot point paintings of Heroes

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:35 (five years ago)

dorian gray is kind of terrific tbrr

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/49/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray-_Ivan_Albright.jpg

whoa it looks like one of those google deep dream doohickeys

frogbs, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:36 (five years ago)

the bloodstained shadow
https://iv1.lisimg.com/image/8990957/720full-the-bloodstained-shadow-screenshot.jpg

andrew m., Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:41 (five years ago)

I love this painting 'by' Edward G Robinson in Fritz Lang's Scarlet Street:

https://crackedrearviewer.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/kitty.jpg

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:44 (five years ago)

might as well drop this here for the entire Night Galley series:

https://dangerousminds.net/comments/a_gallery_of_the_paintings_from_rod_serlings_night_gallery

Brad C., Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:45 (five years ago)

All of Hancock's art in The Rebel is good not bad

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/8JEnblX2ZJQ48Fgct_yRppVvD6hHvZ1_4ojbLoetHlDzRtT4DIcboUlQWKygw7mfO9L73n4aQczEZkHjM6o

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:47 (five years ago)

action sequence from same:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs73aPdYvnE

mark s, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:49 (five years ago)

https://home2hollywood.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/gene-tierney-dana-andrews-painting-laura-1944.png?w=720

Gene Tierney portrait in Laura (and also Leave Her To Heaven?)

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:54 (five years ago)

from queen of the damned (legit one of my favourite movies):

https://iv1.lisimg.com/image/13166142/720full-queen-of-the-damned-%282002%29-photo.jpg

mark s, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:56 (five years ago)

I'm a longtime fan of both Altman and Pialat's Van Gogh movies without being able to find examples. I'm sure the painting was good in both though - just by not being terrible I think.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:04 (five years ago)

I would love to do like a 'shreds' variation on a painting biopic, played completely straight in every respect except that the paintings are fucking awful and are in no way representative of the actual artist's work.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:07 (five years ago)

The estates of Picasso, Pollock, and Francis Bacon all forbade filmmakers from using the respective artists' work in the films, so the producers had to make knock offs for them all.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:09 (five years ago)

Like imagine a sweeping historical drama about Caravaggio and every one of his paintings featured in the film is a close-up of a butthole.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:13 (five years ago)

i've been trying to find more of the category i associate best of the badness with: where we encounter a portrait in which a strong rememblance between a living character and the painting implies some dark connection or creepiness or obsession

(vertigo is an example of this, indeed probably a major inspiration for copycat plots, and coppola's dracula is another -- i'm sure there's a bunch of hammer horrors with relevant portraits in them)

mark s, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:14 (five years ago)

i was faintly appalled that this shit-ass painting featured prominently in an episode of watchmen wasn’t created for the show

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Comanche_Feats_of_Horsemanship-George_Catlin.jpg

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:14 (five years ago)

lol, I kinda love how shit-ass that painting is.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:17 (five years ago)

The painting of the first wife in two mrs Carrolls is pretty dire:

https://www.thefilmsinmylife.com/2018/10/the-artwork-in-two-mrs-carrolls-1947.html?m=1

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:21 (five years ago)

look i just think that if you’re gonna devote yourself to creating semi-racist to fully-racist depictions of the lives of native americans you should at least put a bit of effort in xp

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:22 (five years ago)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J0sip_yMWak/UI2PZWxoziI/AAAAAAAAE3M/pBWWP6f35lA/s320/tumblr_lin3euFMJ51qzr3ueo1_r2_500.gif

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:28 (five years ago)

fake Inchbold

https://i2.wp.com/morseandlewisandendeavour.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/vlcsnap-2017-02-07-20h19m59s450.jpg?w=730&ssl=1

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:28 (five years ago)

Is...is that a unicorn in the top right of the Comanche painting?

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:30 (five years ago)

controversial YBA Tom Baker in Vault of Horror

https://bigcomicpage.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/32714424_1691226590931862_2686949798283575296_n.jpg

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:35 (five years ago)

Obviously this is awesome http://www.triplezed.com/blog/the-art-of-3-men-and-a-baby

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:39 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAU0BBG5-hw

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:44 (five years ago)

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-gWP9Fck4C0/hqdefault.jpg

mark s, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:45 (five years ago)

Fritz Lang's The Woman In The Window:

https://images.app.goo.gl/w7oD3RLbBgwuQgpx8

bobot, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:46 (five years ago)

Must make a note not to hotlink from blogspot again, it looks like you've posted it successfully, but nope.

anyway, these

https://i.imgur.com/BArZRir.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4Du2JsA.jpg

and this one

https://i.imgur.com/DCDLIEA.gif

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:55 (five years ago)

i give you... raul julia as m bison in street fighter

https://cdn1us.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeekus/files/styles/article_width/public/street_fighter-1.jpg?itok=OyOrqnl2

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:55 (five years ago)

christopher walken and christopher walken’s large adult son in batman returns

https://cdn1us.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeekus/files/styles/article_width/public/batman_returns_0.jpg?itok=o9Xn9NUu

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:57 (five years ago)

The Witch painting spooked me as a kid. I think there’s an MR James story with a changing painting too?

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:02 (five years ago)

This is the only evidence I can find online of the painting from Fulci's The Beyond:

@MondoNews who do I have to sleep with to at least get a high quality print of Schweick's painting from Fulci's The Beyond?!!!#luciofulci #thebeyond #sevengatesofhell #eibon pic.twitter.com/DcBgOWulX3

— Robert McQueen (@mcqueen_robert) October 8, 2019

emil.y, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:05 (five years ago)

The Witches, I should say (xpost)

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:05 (five years ago)

yeah dowd the James story is "The Mezzotint"

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:06 (five years ago)

Ah, thanks! I think I read it about the same time I saw the Witches, I remember it having quite an effect on me.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:07 (five years ago)

Abel Ferrara's shit painting of a buffalo features heavily in Driller Killer, drives him over the edge in fact. So blame the fucking buffalo, not him.

https://themovieelite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/driller-killer-buffalo-painting-1200x520.jpg

it's after the end of the world (Matt #2), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:08 (five years ago)

Wish I could find the story I read as a kid of somebody putting together a jigsaw with no picture on the box that gradually turned out to be a creepy green fungal looking house and when they put the last piece in they found themself inside this place and whatever lived there ate them

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:08 (five years ago)

this is probably the wrong thread but the way crap artist Julian Schnabel weaves himself into his Basquiat movie (played by Gary Oldman) is so vain and bad and nauseating!

calzino, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:15 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QKxIxEyDPg

calzino, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:17 (five years ago)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/36/57/01/3657015abcdf953625915c6a82c2852a.png

mark s, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:26 (five years ago)

As far as TV shows go, the portrait in Schitt’s Creek is excellent.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:32 (five years ago)

https://frinkiac.com/img/S02E18/1229677.jpg

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:35 (five years ago)

https://i.etsystatic.com/5851351/r/il/8a7050/370274291/il_570xN.370274291_d67a.jpg

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:36 (five years ago)

https://www.jewishexponent.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/creek1.jpg

mark s, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:42 (five years ago)

Noodle, your story sounds interesting and it got me Googling. This isn't it, but seems like a variant:

https://www.wattpad.com/1796672-a-collection-of-short-scary-stories-the-strangest

A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:06 (five years ago)

https://flintstones.fandom.com/wiki/Adobe_Dick

mark s, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:07 (five years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EP9aBRtWoAELZ4p?format=jpg

mark s, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:07 (five years ago)

i've been trying to find more of the category i associate best of the badness with: where we encounter a portrait in which a strong resemblance between a living character and the painting implies some dark connection or creepiness or obsession

cousin Barnabas from England looks so much like his ancestor

https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/2480x1400/public/wire/legacy/dark-shadows-jonathan-frid-barnabas-collins.jpg

Brad C., Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:15 (five years ago)

Terrible paintings, you say?

https://i.imgur.com/kQCNena.png

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:17 (five years ago)

https://dailyscribbling.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/hound1939-18.jpg

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:18 (five years ago)

Vincent Price inherits The Haunted Palace from the guy in this portrait:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BY2QzN2Q1YWQtNjk1NC00ZTk2LWJkNDAtZjY1OTM1ZTY1YzlmXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNzc5NjM0NA@@._V1_.jpg

Brad C., Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:21 (five years ago)

The painting in 'Batteries Not Included' is a plot point (and also NSFW so I'm not posting it in this thread).

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:25 (five years ago)

it’s not nsfw if it’s art, dahling

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:27 (five years ago)

I was looking for a photo of the painting in the new Dracula, but got down a rabbit hole of fan art from which I've had to escape as quickly as possible

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:28 (five years ago)

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/156500155779080396/

Manitobiloba (Kim), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 00:55 (five years ago)

https://i.stack.imgur.com/NmYqV.jpg
the thread-starter

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 02:14 (five years ago)

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41kat8xhScL.jpg
I've always found the painting in Picard's ready room to be rather lame

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 02:21 (five years ago)

I’m having a hard time finding link-able jpgs of the ones I’ve been thinking of, specifically the one of Vince Vaughn nude from Wedding Crashers and the portraits of Alan Rickman and Mos Def from the end of Something the Lord Made

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 02:28 (five years ago)

Tom Selleck film Daughters of Satan (1972) where he buys a painting for his wife, but one of the witches in the painting looks just like his wife

3rd image down:
https://thedrunkenodyssey.com/2016/06/10/the-curator-of-schlock-132-daughters-of-satan/

Josefa, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 02:55 (five years ago)

I really liked The Devil's Candy but not so much for the painting
https://twocentspluschange.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/the-devils-candy.jpg

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 03:09 (five years ago)

Does Lionel Ritchie’s sculpted likeness in “Hello” count?

Manitobiloba (Kim), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 03:40 (five years ago)

absolutely

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 03:50 (five years ago)

TOMMY: I like this one. One dog goes one way and the other goes the other.

MOTHER: One's going east, the other’s going west. So what?

TOMMY: And this guy's saying, "Whaddya want from me?" The guy's got a nice head of white hair. Beautiful. The dog it looks the same.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_F5fY63LECJY/SOK9WDbQM3I/AAAAAAAAAgM/REmi-vVCl0M/s400/blog+Pileggi+two+dogs.jpg

Ste, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:10 (five years ago)

i shd have put it in the OP really but i didn't want to divert from the badness i'm after with such pure and unalloyed goodness

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:17 (five years ago)

originally painted by nicholas pileggi's mum, fact fans

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:19 (five years ago)

from this picture in national geographic!

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-HE3Gl-ctljc%2FUIJoPxDpUAI%2FAAAAAAAAAoI%2FG0BE6m8gjiQ%2Fs1600%2F284.JPG&f=1&nofb=1

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:20 (five years ago)

To know beauty one must live with it is def the motto of this thread

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:22 (five years ago)

https://live.staticflickr.com/3015/4557012334_83d28a8020.jpg

Not a painting, but Frederick Hart's Ex Nihilo sculpture. It plays a big role in The Devil's Advocate. It supposedly had a detrimental effect on Hart's health.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WdWH53nsu8

Wikipedia:

In 1997, Washington National Cathedral asked Hart to join a lawsuit accusing a major motion picture company of copyright infringement for the appropriation of Ex Nihilo in the 1997 film The Devil's Advocate.[41] Over the course of the initial proceedings, "it soon became clear that the filmmakers had simply placed Ex Nihilo on a computer template, removed one figure, and then manipulated the figures."[42]

However, Hart was cautious because in the 1990s plaintiffs in suits against major corporations were sometimes ridiculed in the media as part of public relations campaigns funded by the corporations themselves.[43] "During sessions at US Federal Court over the case that winter, the strain on Hart was wincingly visible."[44] As stress and mounting legal fees took a toll on Hart's health, in 1998, he suffered a stroke.[45]

A federal judge ruled that unless a settlement could be reached the film's video release would be delayed until the case went to trial; the motion picture company then agreed to edit the scene for future releases, and to attach stickers to unedited videotapes to indicate they intended no relation between the sculpture in the film and Hart's work.[46]

After his stroke, “Hart had pursued a rigorous regimen of physical therapy to regain the use of his left arm. He worked as arduously on his rehabilitation as he had on any work he ever created. Expecting to recover fully, he continued to sculpt almost every day… He was unaware that cancer was invading his body. Three weeks before he died, he became debilitated by pneumonia. It wasn’t until a couple of days before the end that the rapidly spreading cancer was discovered.”[45]

Hart died on August 13, 1999, two days after doctors at Johns Hopkins Hospital diagnosed him with cancer.[15]

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:24 (five years ago)

"to know beauty one must live with it"
— akasha, queen of the damned

https://i.imgur.com/TUl3MBy.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:29 (five years ago)

http://paintingsinmovies.com/ir/5/354.jpg

Bacon's 'Figure with Meat (Head Surrounded by Sides of Beef)' in Batman.

The painting is featured in a scene where the Joker and his henchmen destroy several works of art. However, the Joker spares Figure with Meat, saying, "I kind of like this one, Bob. Leave it.". Jack Nicholson as the Joker then sits down with Kim Basinger and has a discussion where he declares, "I am the world's first fully functioning homicidal artist."

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:29 (five years ago)

that haircut is a work of art in its own right

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:34 (five years ago)

baggyAG

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:35 (five years ago)

I went to an exhibition of these paintings in Shoreditch years ago... oh, and "Aphrodite at the Waterhole" was there two.

https://bigfatarts.com/pages/shapeism

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:37 (five years ago)

Don't know about shapeism, I thought the paintings were supposed to be of the Infantile School.

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:39 (five years ago)

Can't believe I'm first to post this. It falls into the 'excellent' category, like the novel but unlike the film:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Fabritius-vink.jpg

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:45 (five years ago)

Surprised nobody has mentioned The Quince Tree Sun yet

Frederik B, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:49 (five years ago)

ppl aren't mentioning these actual real paintings by actual real painters bcz the fake and terrible paintings made for movies are better and it explodes the lie of art

https://www.billboard.com/files/media/lionel-richie-hello-video-1984-billboard-650.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:56 (five years ago)

(by all means carry posting real art by real artists tho, let the explosion continue!)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 11:02 (five years ago)

I would expect sculpture to be much more common in film than painting, though I’m not sure why; sculpture as mise en scene seems more natural.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 11:17 (five years ago)

i haven't seen it for c.25 years but some of gillies mackinnon's small faces (no relation) was filmed at the glasgow school of art and used paintings almost as intertitles, if i'm remembering correctly. i can't find any links on the net, googling small faces paintings brings up nightmares redolent of illustrations feat.paul weller that make you think

(at the time i didn't think it worked especially well but i was speed-watching as part of a project abt pat barker's regeneration -- his next film -- so might just have been not in the mood for whatever it was aiming at. and the fact of it as a device has clearly stuck with me)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 11:38 (five years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/pVHnCJX.jpg?1
https://m0vie.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/doctorwho-dragonfire4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Yad4JQF.jpg?1

Edward Peel's villain delivering this dramatic monologue in front of the rubbish ice statue of his dead wife in an episode of Dr Who

A work of artistry, my friend. Incandescent artistry. I could almost believe Xana lives again. A unique beauty, yes, but more than that, a criminal genius also. Oh, what a waste. It should have been I who was killed escaping arrest, not you. The whole of eternity has held its breath for this moment. But no one must ever see your work. It exists, that is enough. No one can ever look upon your work and live. Gaze on it and die fulfilled.
(Kane places his bare hands on the sculptor's face and freezes him to death.)

soref, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 11:47 (five years ago)

is that an ice organ i spy in the background? this was an aesthetically rich episode, it has bricolage and everything: "One of the guard's lines, about the "semiotic thickness of a performed text", is a quotation from Doctor Who: The Unfolding Text, a 1983 media studies volume by John Tulloch and Manuel Alvarado. Story editor Andrew Cartmel had suggested that writers read The Unfolding Text to familiarise themselves with Doctor Who and its history, which inspired Ian Briggs to quote the academic text in his script"

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 11:56 (five years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd9U3ecCcAAnBiM.jpg

fetter, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:07 (five years ago)

Are those Staffies in the GoodFellas painting?

fetter, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:09 (five years ago)

ah sorry I only just noticed you literally referenced the two dogs photo in the og post!

Ste, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:13 (five years ago)

don't apologise the thread needed the picture!

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:15 (five years ago)

This is from the game not the show but it looks exactly the same
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/aceattorney/images/c/c8/Grossbergoffice.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20151016234529

hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:23 (five years ago)

pleased to report btw that data's picture from PICARD -- aka the threadstarter -- remains the worst in the thread (and also galactic cultural history)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:27 (five years ago)

What about the paintings Data painted in TNG?

https://i.stack.imgur.com/du4by.jpg

https://i.stack.imgur.com/rHJIj.jpg

Tuomas, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:32 (five years ago)

If we're including statues then here's the one from 'Conan The Destroyer':
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/9/9b/Dagoth_statue.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131223174724
Also the statue from the David Niven movie 'The Statue':
https://www.diomedia.com/imagePreview/01AT6DTD?imageId=17827553&imageCode=01AT6DTD&contributor=Keystone+Pictures+USA&siteName=www.diomedia.com&title=&location=&ds=760&newStyle=1&tc=FFFFFF&tbc=333333&qv=95&icc=1&cl=1

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:32 (five years ago)

If, like me, you're somewhat of a Niven fan and haven't heard of that movie, it's because it's awful.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:33 (five years ago)

xp to tuomas: they're not as bad (they're very bad, the top one less so maybe, but they're not as bad)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:35 (five years ago)

AI bot sculpture still has some way to go

https://www.scifi-movies.com/images/contenu/data/0000066/photo-l-age-de-cristal-logan-s-run-1976-3.jpg

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:37 (five years ago)

That top one toumas posted looks like hockney vomiting acyrilic paint in anger over one of his worst paintings

calzino, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:38 (five years ago)

is it a picture of the charge of the light brigade? the LB as vomited bright red acrylic wd be good art praxis if so

(i like when data's approach is overly algorithmic tho, someone is paying attention in the correct directions even if the picture comes out crappy) (this does not apply to the threadstarter which is in the "spooky resemblance of ancestor to current character" mode lol)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:56 (five years ago)

The statues in Robert wise’s the Haunting are good: https://m.imgur.com/gallery/3RCr3le

Though expanding to sculpture risks overwhelming the topic with statues of Christ.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:58 (five years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/sRDrwnM_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:59 (five years ago)

statues of christ sculpted by data are welcome

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 13:05 (five years ago)

the secret history of st:tng is that it's actually a seven-season polemic about how synthetic life is bad not good (cf data actively threatening the lives of the crew on multiple occasions and being bafflingly reinstated to his vitally important duties after every single one) and his shit-ass paintings are one of the major clues that something is profoundly and unredeemably RONG with him

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 13:29 (five years ago)

As far as Dark Shadows goes, there is a painting that features more prominently in the bits I am (I’m exactly halfway through the series now) - Cassandra’s portrait. https://images.app.goo.gl/32WQKrq5hXSjmTr19 Which is...not great. Barnabas’ is clearly better.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 13:35 (five years ago)

https://darkshadowseveryday.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/498-dark-shadows-angelique-portrait.jpg

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 13:36 (five years ago)

Good rundown of all the Dark Shadows portraits, good, bad and hideously ugly:

http://dsb4idie.blogspot.com/p/old-house-portraits_8.html

Josefa, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 14:38 (five years ago)

Thanks for that link, Josefa!

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 14:53 (five years ago)

If we're expanding the field to include other artistic media might I throw jackietreehornsketch.jpg into the ring

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 14:55 (five years ago)

loved this film as a kid

https://i.imgur.com/fY4V8BD.jpg

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:02 (five years ago)

From 'Dr. No' (1962), a painting of the Duke of Wellington that had been stolen in 1961.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/d4/05/84d40597db91634668b245236d09e6ca.jpg
Not a plot point as such, but it adds to Dr. No's characterisation as a high end criminal.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:07 (five years ago)

Also "that painting from 'Skyfall'", also known as 'The Fighting Temeraire'.
https://paintingvalley.com/images/skyfall-painting-21.png
Again not really a plot point, more of a character/relationaship development point between Bond and Q.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:11 (five years ago)

'Skyfall' also has another painting in it, which itself is a reference to the stolen painting gag in 'Dr. No'.
http://paintingsinmovies.com/m/view/id/56

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:13 (five years ago)

dodgeball: a true underdog story (2004) dir: rawson marshall thurber

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.shopify.com%2Fs%2Ffiles%2F1%2F0813%2F8015%2Fproducts%2FScreen_Shot_2015-05-22_at_15.30.05_1024x1024.png%3Fv%3D1447860765&f=1&nofb=1

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:17 (five years ago)

https://i.ibb.co/gZgQHjP/FB-IMG-1580916073109.jpg

ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:21 (five years ago)

Reminded me of this:

https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/2019/07/img_8567.jpg

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:29 (five years ago)

2 from fire walk with me: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVssMJsCQAQST2G.jpg
https://66.media.tumblr.com/7e2cfc28d63ce5319a7834df89f74f74/tumblr_pm81qeNdPI1x5d6ybo4_500.png

Painting of Amy in a previous incarnation from fright night:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/da/c0/95/dac0955530fb4b0768fabf52ff55c97d.jpg

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:49 (five years ago)

Ghostbusters 2 was mentioned already of course, but forgot about this one

https://i.etsystatic.com/6958508/r/il/028757/1140560861/il_570xN.1140560861_d6uq.jpg

Ste, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:51 (five years ago)

that's an extremely poor rendering of ernie hudson

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:52 (five years ago)

how about movies or shows where a prowler lurks behind the wall, peering through the eyes of the portrait!!! spooky stuff!

andrew m., Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:04 (five years ago)

excellent one imo

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/35/7e/68357e9cabfaa44ca5e028e4bdf52504.png

Ste, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:08 (five years ago)

sorry should have pointed out NSFW!

Ste, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:09 (five years ago)

but prob doesn't count as it's not movie originated

Ste, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:11 (five years ago)

excellent art, not a plot point.

andrew m., Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:12 (five years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/TREYzP1.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:14 (five years ago)

Aren’t there some gaudy paintings of biff & Lorraine in trump-biff’s mansion in bttf2? Can’t find online

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:14 (five years ago)

The wonderful opening sequence of the TV “What We Do In the Shadows” is full of amazing not terrible art:

rb (soda), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 23:32 (five years ago)

Loved the Raul Julia thing, had no idea he played M Bison, and made the mistake of learning more. Of course he filmed this, his last role, when he was dying of stomach cancer so his children could see him in a movie they'd enjoy ;_;

lukas, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 23:39 (five years ago)

Bojack Horseman is incredible on so many levels

Frederik B, Thursday, 6 February 2020 08:31 (five years ago)

futher evidence of data's crimes against art:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogFxgtsypBc

the case for the defence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29-iFOEOgIM

Paperbag raita (ledge), Thursday, 6 February 2020 10:00 (five years ago)

things i've been hunting for meanwhile = wall art in 50s and 60s cartoons, esp.the hubleys at UPA

mark s, Thursday, 6 February 2020 10:00 (five years ago)

Here to show critical support for Data's artworks!

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 February 2020 10:46 (five years ago)

Re: action painting there is one depiction of it in Pasolini's Teorema.

I can't remember what the painting in Quince Tree Sun looks like :-( Want to think it's good because I liked the film so much.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 February 2020 10:49 (five years ago)

jean luc picart

ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 February 2020 13:43 (five years ago)

again def not plot point but always liked this discovery - https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2014/11/stuart-little-leads-to-lost-painting

johnny crunch, Thursday, 6 February 2020 13:44 (five years ago)

Is there action painting in one of the original Bedazzled vignettes with Eleanor Bron? Feel like there is but can't be arsed to Google.

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 February 2020 13:45 (five years ago)

Or like I could've confused it with If..... or somethink

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 February 2020 13:45 (five years ago)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EMjd-S0Zd8s/Ux5mW6_nssI/AAAAAAAACZU/EqofiIjkryU/s1600/732_2.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 February 2020 13:55 (five years ago)

https://rjamahoney.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/ba-1.png?w=600&h=338

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 February 2020 13:59 (five years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/tQ1mqX2.png

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 February 2020 14:04 (five years ago)

There's probably a ton of terrible paintings in Velvet Buzzsaw but I am not going to seek them out.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Thursday, 6 February 2020 14:33 (five years ago)

So why do film people hate painting so much? Static visual art is only a bit boring leave it alone lol.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 February 2020 14:38 (five years ago)

we dont hate it we love it u buffoon

mark s, Thursday, 6 February 2020 16:15 (five years ago)

Film people = the ppl that make films not ppl posting on the thread. Just wondering out loud why the paintings are mostly bad.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 February 2020 16:21 (five years ago)

ah yes that's a key question -- there was a special sight and sound supplement on this topic ("art in movies") when i worked there, i shd dig out out and see if it's better than this thread (it won't be)

it's probably 30 yrs since i watched this (i didn't like it then):
https://anotherimg-dazedgroup.netdna-ssl.com/900/azure/another-prod/350/4/354103.jpg

mark s, Thursday, 6 February 2020 16:27 (five years ago)

Dali for Spellbound

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7G6jzvD0s10/WWXMJQ9UbHI/AAAAAAAAZv0/3mZUXHjNwtwjnICzYwnWkdSAUFRuNBK6wCLcBGAs/s1600/spellbound-1945-dream-salvador-dali.jpg

by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 6 February 2020 16:28 (five years ago)

The House on the Corner (I'll Never Forget You), 18th c. painting bears striking resemblance to Tyrone Power:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-foQGhoev1cM/UiS3iaTjAXI/AAAAAAAAJdc/E0MfGXfRGPY/s1600/11.JPG

by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 6 February 2020 16:33 (five years ago)

Okay which movie am I trying to remember that features a scene where someone is perhaps getting torn apart/murdered and they're screaming - whilst the camera flashes to a series of paintings on a wall where the portraits just look on in nonchalance
?

Ste, Thursday, 6 February 2020 17:11 (five years ago)

(it's possible the 'victim' was maybe just having sex instead)

Ste, Thursday, 6 February 2020 17:14 (five years ago)

http://getdrawings.com/image/the-real-rose-drawing-from-titanic-60.jpg

omar little, Thursday, 6 February 2020 17:27 (five years ago)

https://i.stack.imgur.com/1sGiY.jpg

omar little, Thursday, 6 February 2020 17:30 (five years ago)

http://dailygrindhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Live-and-Die.jpg

omar little, Thursday, 6 February 2020 17:31 (five years ago)

Ste are you thinking of bad timing? various kilmt paintings act as quasi-voyeurs to everything that happens to theresa russell (which doesn't include her murder but does include an emergency operation to save her life depicted as a brutal bodily invasion)

mark s, Thursday, 6 February 2020 23:05 (five years ago)

https://i.stack.imgur.com/6tJle.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 7 February 2020 07:14 (five years ago)

(there are so many Napoleon Soprano w/Pie-Oh-My knock offs out there...)

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 7 February 2020 07:15 (five years ago)

Art School Confidential may be meh, but the bad art is fantastically bad

https://i1.netflixmovies.com/dibsl9ebc/image/upload/w_1920,h_800,c_fill,g_faces,q_62/u5xckpeocl1if7qniwiz.jpg

http://somamagazine.com/site/wp-content/uploads/Art-school.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 7 February 2020 07:17 (five years ago)

Mark, I might be thinking of Trading Places when Dan Aykroyd is arrested in the chambers. Didn't they cut to the shots of paintings on the wall of past chairmen or something looking on in disgust?

Ste, Friday, 7 February 2020 10:33 (five years ago)

i think there might be a TP scene where snooty old portrait people look on in disdain but i don't think anyone gets dismembered (or even has sex onscreen)!

mark s, Friday, 7 February 2020 10:36 (five years ago)

haha yeah i got that bit way off

Ste, Friday, 7 February 2020 10:37 (five years ago)

just reporting that the painting scenes in Portait of a Lady on Fire are probably quite as realistically formulaic and unremarkable as the work of an 18th century society portraitist would be, well with the caveat that I fell asleep halfway through and will catch up on "episode 2" tonight!

calzino, Friday, 7 February 2020 10:53 (five years ago)

https://media0.giphy.com/media/VdEphHnbfxOqNrJZwn/source.gif

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Friday, 7 February 2020 10:57 (five years ago)

12 monkeys
https://www.tvequals.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/12-Monkeys-Syfy-Mentally-Divergent-Episode-2-18.jpg

andrew m., Friday, 7 February 2020 14:44 (five years ago)

(in the book eustace is further docked aslan kiss-ass points bcz he correctly prefers modern art to bad narnian hyperrealism)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9-vFCM6H4U

mark s, Friday, 7 February 2020 14:54 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNPy9TU4kq0

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Friday, 7 February 2020 15:20 (five years ago)

http://paintingsinmovies.com/ir/5/344.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 February 2020 15:36 (five years ago)

I just found this site:

http://paintingsinmovies.com/m/main

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 February 2020 15:37 (five years ago)

How'd we miss this one?
http://paintingsinmovies.com/ir/5/304.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 February 2020 15:39 (five years ago)

there's also an "art in the movies" blog: https://artinthemovies.wordpress.com/

(but i'd prefer ppl contribute things they themselves know or remember or have a relationship than just raid other ppl's lists!) (tho by all means use these places to remind yrself of such relationships)

mark s, Friday, 7 February 2020 15:54 (five years ago)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6e/85/a3/6e85a33f117354628e592ae3ff8b4012.gif

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 February 2020 16:11 (five years ago)

https://i0.wp.com/www.tor.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/KikiAndUrsula-740x405.jpg

jmm, Friday, 7 February 2020 16:15 (five years ago)

just reporting that the painting scenes in Portait of a Lady on Fire are probably quite as realistically formulaic and unremarkable as the work of an 18th century society portraitist would be, well with the caveat that I fell asleep halfway through and will catch up on "episode 2" tonight!

― calzino, Friday, 7 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Lol oh no watching that next week

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 February 2020 16:17 (five years ago)

I didn't mean it was boring or bad.. I was rather tired and it was late.

calzino, Friday, 7 February 2020 17:01 (five years ago)

I loved it

wee jim o’conor (wins), Friday, 7 February 2020 17:18 (five years ago)

Yeah sometimes 2am screenings are good but only if I stay awake

calzino, Friday, 7 February 2020 17:29 (five years ago)

just for more clarity when i said "formulaic and unremarkable" i didn't mean the actual movie but more like the chocolate box rigidity the society portraitist depicted in the movie is working within, maybe that changes by the end of the movie idk but it seemed quite excellent!

calzino, Friday, 7 February 2020 18:35 (five years ago)

When it comes to use of art I thought it more noticeable how hilariously fake the commoner choir music sounded. Great film though

Frederik B, Friday, 7 February 2020 18:54 (five years ago)

does this one from Popeye count?

https://i.imgur.com/ExWk4re.jpg

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:30 (five years ago)

lol need to watch popeye again, i love it

mark s, Friday, 7 February 2020 20:25 (five years ago)

There's a nice Brueghel in Solaris iirc. He recreates another with live people in Mirror.

koogs, Friday, 7 February 2020 20:29 (five years ago)

https://i.stack.imgur.com/nAmyu.png

omar little, Friday, 7 February 2020 20:33 (five years ago)

rivendell painting very much in the data school

mark s, Friday, 7 February 2020 20:38 (five years ago)

No plot to it but the ending of Andrei Rublev was great (as in wtf have been watching this for the last 2.5 hours)

https://youtu.be/0wvhOPX2DFw

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 February 2020 21:19 (five years ago)

https://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/images/4767e.jpg

odd man out & bonus production still

no lime tangier, Saturday, 8 February 2020 02:03 (five years ago)

https://images.app.goo.gl/MDFWExuiAjwr54sx7

Herschell Gordon Lewis's Color Me Blood Red. Don't laugh, it's on the Criterion Channel.

Josefa, Saturday, 8 February 2020 02:11 (five years ago)

trust me, it's bad

Josefa, Saturday, 8 February 2020 02:17 (five years ago)

Russian Ark

https://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/11530394/960full-russian-ark-screenshot.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/%7BED791D92-68A3-45C7-843F-4AB22AB96489%7D/picture.JPG

by the light of the burning Citroën, Saturday, 8 February 2020 02:50 (five years ago)

Man, I love that movie.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 February 2020 02:54 (five years ago)

Let’s not forget about Mel Chin’s quasi-conspiracy to put art out on Melrose Place: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.artnews.com/art-news/news/remembering-when-melrose-place-became-a-conceptual-art-project-mel-chins-gala-committee-returns-this-fall-6750/amp/

ed.b, Saturday, 8 February 2020 03:02 (five years ago)

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wsok3eSm0D0/U8s4xX5dCTI/AAAAAAAAGMw/8WYmVvY_6ng/s1600/Schiele.jpg

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 8 February 2020 23:17 (five years ago)

just reporting that the painting scenes in Portait of a Lady on Fire are probably quite as realistically formulaic and unremarkable as the work of an 18th century society portraitist would be, well with the caveat that I fell asleep halfway through and will catch up on "episode 2" tonight!

― calzino, Friday, 7 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Lol oh no watching that next week

― xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

I didn't mean it was boring or bad.. I was rather tired and it was late.

― calzino, Friday, 7 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

I loved it

― wee jim o’conor (wins), Friday, 7 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

I loved the film too but yes the ironing is how, in the end, this is an utterly unremarkable portrait. The film cleverly plays with the idea of either destroying it -- the one time my friend gasped was when the first effort was killed off -- or not fully displaying it to us the viewer. Looking back there is something astonishing about all of the training, skill, effort, study, love (and love and more love), aesthetics, art and yet...there is very little to show for it. Not that you mind at all, you lived through its creation, That was more than enough, but it may offer an insight or two in the puzzle with which this thread is concerned with.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 22:52 (five years ago)

looks one of my image links broke but it was 'wings of love' as featured in abigail's party, a terrible but also amazing painting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wings_of_Love_(painting)

ymo sumac (NickB), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 15:36 (five years ago)

After the Second World War, shops such as Woolworths sold large numbers of colorful and sentimental or 'exotic' prints.[6] As a commercially reproduced picture, Wings of Love was sold ready-framed in many high street outlets, and became a best-selling image in the early 1970s. By 1992, 2.5 million copies of Wings of Love had been sold, many outside of the UK.[7][8]

The most notable appearance of Wings of Love was in a mural commissioned for a wall beside one of Saddam Hussein's many swimming pools in his palace.[9] The mural was recreated in the form of a projection on the wall of the Platform Arts Gallery, Belfast, in February 2009. In the exhibition ‘Taste: The New Religion’, at Manchester's Cornerhouse Arts Centre, Wings of Love finds a place beside pictures by Vladimir Tretchikoff, John Lynch and Peter Lightfoot as an example of the independent course of popular taste. Andrea Patrick Byrne, an award-winning London-based artist, references Wings of Love in her 2014 audiovisual self-portrait Girlhood.[10]
Popular culture

The print house Athena owed much of its resurgence in the 1980s to selling kitsch prints of a fantasy-world type, such as Unicorn Princess, Beach Lovers and A Dolphin Moon, that were inspired by Stephen Pearson's work.[11] Wings of Love was immortalized on the wall of Stan and Hilda Ogden's house in Coronation Street[12] and the painting also achieved cult status through its appearance in the 1977 film of Mike Leigh's play Abigail's Party,[13] In the film, the painting provokes a heated debate on the nature of "erotic art"; this culminates in Beverly Moss's husband Laurence dropping dead of a heart attack. The film Mona Lisa also features Wings of Love as part of recurring references to surrealism.[14]

ymo sumac (NickB), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 15:38 (five years ago)

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51cwKvvhYvL._SX425_.jpg

ymo sumac (NickB), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 15:40 (five years ago)

when i was clearing out mum and dad's attic i was startled to encounter a vast print of "wings of love" -- my absolutely stumped confusion makes me think i may never properly have watched abigail's party -- as i did not recognise it and it is a seriously unexpected image just to happen on (it was stored there by someone my sister know, who collects film memorabilia and had been temporarily embarrassed for storage space)

https://live.staticflickr.com/4480/24097904808_9ab1284082_b.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 15:45 (five years ago)

(thread ends with ppl posting increasingly large embeds of wings of love)

mark s, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 15:46 (five years ago)

it was stored there by someone my sister know, who collects film memorabilia and had been temporarily embarrassed for storage space

saddam hussein?

ymo sumac (NickB), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 15:47 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUA6SR3rZT8&feature=emb_title

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 15:49 (five years ago)

Portait of a Lady on Fire is a really fine movie.. and the actual portrait is nuff shite! I was thinking the movie was working on themes of the discrepancy between memories, sensations and love and everything and the limits of artistic presentation or something, but then at the end you see music doing what the painting failed to do. Just sketchy thoughts here - i don't do coherent posts I'm afraid!

calzino, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 15:57 (five years ago)

luckily the antiques auctions in shropshire are very flexible about the rules surrounding WMDs of unstated provenance

mark s, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 16:03 (five years ago)

Scuds of Ludlow

ymo sumac (NickB), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 16:05 (five years ago)

never really noticed it before, and i know it has more obvious failings with regard to the laws of science, but the woman's shadow is really wrong in the wings of love

ymo sumac (NickB), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 16:15 (five years ago)

airbrush card revoked for that fucking arm on the bloke as well or was that a feature of the painting.. i can't remember tbh!

calzino, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 16:18 (five years ago)

i suppose the shadow would actually make sense if the sun was on the left hand side of the painting, i always assumed that was the sun under the swan, but duh it's the moon isn't it? the moon of the giant night swan

ymo sumac (NickB), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 16:21 (five years ago)

that's best thing about athena surrealism-lite, you can just make it up as you go along!

calzino, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 16:25 (five years ago)

yes it's not so clear in the version i posted, which has misleading glare in the top left corner -- in nick's there are clearly two lightsources, the moon and a redder source off to the left in what we can see, which reddens the pool of light the lady is sitting in as well as the outer wings of the bird (somewhat mysteriously in respect of the wing on the right side, unless there's a third light source off to the right, also red)

mark s, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 16:27 (five years ago)

The mysteries of love

babby bitter (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:00 (five years ago)

The painting of the woman on fire does the same thing as the music, though? It helps her remember and relive what happened. It's not Vivaldi, sure, but what is?

Frederik B, Thursday, 20 February 2020 14:19 (five years ago)

this old ep of "law and order" ("hands free") has some very schnabel-y art in it, but i can't find pictures on the internet :(

mark s, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 19:28 (five years ago)

There was another Morse 🎨 last night, the lad knows what he likes

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 19:38 (five years ago)

Have we talked about The Sandpiper yet?

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 19:46 (five years ago)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/11/ef/4111efc1282e423f96a6436d46e1f609.png

Schalcken the painter (1979) incorporates a lot of his paintings, but the one the story centres around had to be created for the film. It’s described in the opening of LeFanu’s story:

There exists, at this moment, in good preservation a remarkable work of Schalken's. The curious management of its lights constitutes, as usual in his pieces, the chief apparent merit of the picture. I say apparent, for in its subject, and not in its handling, however exquisite, consists its real value. The picture represents the interior of what might be a chamber in some antique religious building; and its foreground is occupied by a female figure, in a species of white robe, part of which is arranged so as to form a veil. The dress, however, is not that of any religious order. In her hand the figure bears a lamp, by which alone her figure and face are illuminated; and her features wear such an arch smile, as well becomes a pretty woman when practicing some prankish roguery; in the background, and, excepting where the dim red light of an expiring fire serves to define the form, in total shadow, stands the figure of a man dressed in the old Flemish fashion, in an attitude of alarm, his hand being placed upon the hilt of his sword, which he appears to be in the act of drawing.


In the dvd feature I just watched the writer/director Leslie Megahey is unsure whether the painting is lost or never existed

Last night I dreamt I watched The Mandalorian (wins), Friday, 28 February 2020 21:22 (five years ago)

Was about to post the goodfellas dog painting but then re-read the og post. Do you know the story behind that? I love it so much.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 28 February 2020 22:56 (five years ago)

only that it's by nicholas pileggi's mom (he's the journalist who wrote the original book the film's based on) and it's inspired by a photo in (i think) national geographic

mark s, Friday, 28 February 2020 22:59 (five years ago)

one year passes...

Since this thread was last active, I re-watched Corman's Fall of the House of Usher, which has some really quite effective portrait paintings by Majorie Cameron associate Burt Shonberg, as shown here:

http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/2013/04/13/burt-shonbergs-poe-paintings/

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:16 (three years ago)

love this thread, might spend my evening re-living it

Chicks and Ducks and Geese better scurry (Ste), Thursday, 25 November 2021 09:38 (three years ago)

Another painter from Marjorie Cameron's circle is Renate Druks, a Viennese emigre who moved to the US. She was close to Anais Nin, and also involved in the film world through acting in Kenneth Anger's Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome (one of her party events provided the inspiration for the film). She also had some role in providing art work for Curtis Harrington's film 'Games':

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uLIw2QJR2Es/UT-oof1c_JI/AAAAAAAABG4/6Zjc2KHnqhg/s640/games_21.png

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 25 November 2021 09:55 (three years ago)

http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/usher6-big.jpg

Lemmy on the naughty step in hell for wearing a nazi hat!

calzino, Thursday, 25 November 2021 09:56 (three years ago)

Mr Turner

https://www.filmaffinity.com/us/filmimages.php?movie_id=324035

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 25 November 2021 10:19 (three years ago)

(dangit!)

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 25 November 2021 10:20 (three years ago)

truly cursed!

calzino, Thursday, 25 November 2021 10:20 (three years ago)

Try that again.

https://www.filmaffinity.com/us/filmimages.php?movie_id=324035

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 25 November 2021 10:20 (three years ago)

I say! Time to give up the ghost!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 25 November 2021 10:21 (three years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jQLgZLaEUo

Rep. Cobra Commander (R-TX) (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 November 2021 13:21 (three years ago)

one year passes...

rewatching goodfellas and just reached the painting :)

(its good not bad)

mark s, Sunday, 8 January 2023 20:34 (two years ago)

https://darkshadowseveryday.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/strange-paradise-portrait.jpg

"Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Sunday, 8 January 2023 23:21 (two years ago)

two years pass...

just rewatched QUEEN OF THE DAMNED (2002) real title A SECRET HISTORY OF VERY BAD ART (ALSO SCULPTURE)

the only good movie btw

mark s, Saturday, 25 January 2025 20:49 (four months ago)

There’s that French tv series, The Art of Crime, where every episode has these … except the ones with sculptures.

sarahell, Saturday, 25 January 2025 21:02 (four months ago)


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