Joe Biden is (currently) President of the United States

Continued from: Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

not impressed so far

Good morning!

neanderthal lol

Great, another US politics thread

also the fourth or fifth thread about joey joe joe junior shabadoo

Great, another US politics thread

― scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, January 20, 2021

yet another big representation day for all wizards of making women uncomfortable

good luck usa

Continued from: Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:09 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I've repeatedly been told that that thread was the "Joe Biden sucks" thread. What attitude toward Joe Biden does this thread take?

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course

Given that this is still ilx, it's going to be "Joe Biden sucks" here too, I'm predicting.

Joe Biden is president, still sucks, and this will be discussed at length in this and twenty other threads

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure people will talk about how much Joe Biden sucks wherever they like, but in that other thread, if I pushed back on "Joe Biden sucks" posts, I would be told "Hey, this is the 'Joe Biden sucks' thread, there are a bunch of other Joe Biden threads you can post on." Just want to get a sense of what's appropriate here.

just to clarify: this thread is intended solely for discussion of the long term viability and survival statistic rates for the north island brown kiwi (Apteryx mantelli)

Hold on now, Trump still has another 10 minutes of so.

Celebrity inauguration just another reminder of exactly how good policy should be, and strive to be, performed in as boring a way as is possible bg the least glamorous people in the room

Inaugurations /= policy

good duck usa

tbc it wasn’t pushing back on, or genuinely engaging with, “joe biden sucks” posts that got that response, it was complaints that there were “joe biden sucks” posts in the decade-and-a-half-long joe biden sucking thread, and wishes that people making individual posts about joe biden doing & saying new, specific things that sucked would instead make posts about joe biden smelling of vanilla and puppies.

Keen to learn about the migratory habits and camouflage patterns of various species of African moths in this new thread.

xpost: aw dammit

APAB

tbc it wasn’t pushing back on, or genuinely engaging with, “joe biden sucks” posts that got that response, it was complaints that there were “joe biden sucks” posts in the decade-and-a-half-long joe biden sucking thread, and wishes that people making individual posts about joe biden doing & saying new, specific things that sucked would instead make posts about joe biden smelling of vanilla and puppies.

I don't feel like relitigating, but I'm hoping that this new thread can be a good all-purpose President Joe Biden thread and not be viewed as a "Joe Biden sucks" thread. Feel free, of course, to post about how Joe Biden sucks.

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/11/08/what-biden-s-win-means-for-the-future-of-criminal-justice

Why the need at all for a joe biden, prez, thread when there is tbf a us politics thread which he presumably now somewhat comes under the remit of

#∞thread

I made that point several times but idk you know how they are

Murrah and i do

BoJo thread should get routinely updated in retaliation.

Would say we need a betting pool thread for the first coup but they already made it clear that Venezuela is top of the list.

also the fourth or fifth thread about joey joe joe junior shabadoo

inshallah

Feel free, of course, to post about how Joe Biden sucks.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:43 (fourteen minutes ago) link

We've got this.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/
we got new website

Please let us just enjoy this for a day for a month.

Joe Biden sucks, what has he done for me so far it’s been an hour

Nobody is allowed to enjoy anything fyi, this cannot be news at this stage surely

everyone is allowed to enjoy trump's humiliation

Now we can get back to business as usual: smart, responsible, and technically legal war crimes as well as a robust package of corporate kickbacks coupled with targeted (and likely temporary) social programs

— Edward Ongweso Jr (@bigblackjacobin) January 20, 2021

Gurramahagutt cinnte

xxp there just shouldn't be a "and trump lite is great" clause attached to the celebration of it

Lots of "Liberals howled when Trump ________________. But when Biden _____________ there wasn't a peep" madlib columns are itching to be filled out.

well tbf I haven't heard much liberal condemnation of biden's concentration camps yet

can we still call them that when a good guy is in charge

I still kinda can’t believe we made it.

atm feeling mostly like we've been helplessly standing by as someone hacked their way through the dam that keeps us all from drowning, and Biden is the dude who is currently blocking that crude hole with his wizened body. I am thankful to have him plugging up the hole while we do something about the water that's currently up to our noses, and we'll see if he's able to do anything beyond that.

countdown to Biden reversing some Trumpian atrocity of an Executive Order later today and the Republicans immediately co-opting #Resist hashtag... 3... 2...

i'm preparing to endure an enormous amount of bullshit from the left and the right for the rest of my life

congratulations to america on their new rapist president

— abolish the police (@infinite_scream) January 20, 2021

from the center it's all coming up roses tho

there is no center, and if there is, it's the genesis of bullshit

oh what a beautiful inaugur WAIT I'M NOT IN THE POLITICS THREAD I'M IN THE BIDEN THREAD OOPS MODS PLZ DELETE

Joe Biden is Q imo

i mean, think about it - it makes perfect sense.

From this morning:

I'm sure she's basking in Trump's humiliating exit, but yeah, watching someone being inaugurated who was such a non-starter in 2015 he had to step aside for her run, that can't be much fun.
― clemenza, Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:14 AM

He didn’t run because his eldest son had just died.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:39 AM

Not that it matters now, but I believe it was more likely a combination of the two.
― clemenza, Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:42 AM

have no idea if biden would have beaten Clinton in 2016 and no interest in having that conversation but the idea that she was such a strong candidate that she drove out the Vice President is pretty obviously not true. She demonstrably wasn’t a strong candidate!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:43 AM

I disagree, caek. I think there was very much momentum at the time for that nomination to go to her (and then Sanders changed things). But like you, not a lot of interest in revisiting that.
― clemenza, Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:46 AM

And I don’t, mostly because someone will tell me to go fuck myself, and someone else will post “WHO CARES,” and someone else will ask a rhetorical question I take literally and stupidly try to answer. But if we can keep it polite, I think it’s an interesting example of how perceptions can change over time.

I started looking around--one of the luxuries or curses of semi-retirement, take your pick--and skimmed these five accounts of Biden dropping out, published in the immediate aftermath.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-biden-didnt-run

https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/21/politics/joe-biden-not-running-2016-election/index.html

https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/run-2016/2015/10/21/joe-biden-didnt-run-because-he-couldnt-win

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/joe-biden-running-president/story?id=34338816

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/22/us/joe-biden-concludes-theres-no-time-for-a-2016-run.html

The New Yorker link doesn’t mention Beau Biden. The other four do, but they put more emphasis on Biden having run out of time to mount a challenge against Clinton.

CNN: Implicit in Biden’s remarks was a realization that Clinton’s position and organizational muscle in early voting states are just too strong for him to mount a credible challenge at such a late stage – just three-and-a-half months before first votes are cast.

U.S. News: In the end, Biden's decision wasn't solely about timing. It was about lacking a conceivable pathway to victory.

ABC: Though Biden said his family is far enough into their grief to handle the rigors of a presidential campaign, there’s too little time to make the prospect viable. “Unfortunately, I believe we're out of time; the time necessary to mount a winning campaign for the nomination," Biden said.

NYT: In a hurriedly arranged speech in the White House Rose Garden with President Obama at his side, Mr. Biden said that he and his family had overcome their grief at the death of his elder son enough to commit themselves to the rigors of a campaign. But with just days until the first filing deadlines, he said he had concluded that it was simply too late.

Honestly, when I initially posted, I had forgotten about the proximity of his son’s death--obviously, that was a big factor in his decision. But five months later, I think it was more that he didn’t think he could win, and that Hillary was a strong candidate at that point. Biden has run for president three times, and almost ran a fourth. (My guess is it crossed his mind in 1992, too, but the plagiarism incident was still way too close; no recollection if his name surfaced in 2004.) Presidential ambition is obviously part of his DNA--which is fine, you don’t become president without that. But absent Clinton, I think he most definitely would have run in 2016; he may even have mentioned his son’s death as one of the reasons he was running, like he did this time, rather than as a reason not to.

uh didn't the biden camp allege that Beau had explicitly asked Joe to run?

but october 2015 is way too late to announce and organize...bernie and hilary both announced their campaign in April 2015, the month before Beau died. Trump announced in June. And Biden started this campaign in April 2019.

anyway he got in there eventually, no harm done

Totally agree, and I definitely don't want to come across as insensitive to what he went through re his son's death. My own memory of the timeline was just kind of nagging at me.

congrats joe, hope you keep pissing off all the right people for the next four years

All Presidents Are Biden

scum

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsLy4xwVgAAHccq?format=jpg&name=small

did I say four years? nah — eight years

YOUNG N'REFINED

warren g. tryharding in that photo

I can't believe
Warren lowered tax on wealth

just two more presidents and we can complete the panini wallchart

I have seven fuckin bush srs, hate that

Has anybody seen the new president? https://www.instagram.com/p/CKSkiRzj3zc/?igshid=s865dtzbw4hh

Decker is - my- President.

This is very presidential.

NEW: The Biden admin is reopening an overflow facility in Texas for unaccompanied migrant children apprehended at the US-Mexico border. It comes amid an increase in apprehensions + reduced capacity limits at other facilities due to Covid-19. https://t.co/MYRvIr9gm6

— Priscilla Alvarez (@priscialva) February 2, 2021

"It comes amid an increase in apprehensions." It would be nice to know the time frame being referenced here by "amid". Also, it was reported that ICE literally refused to comply with Biden's EO stopping this policy and it isn't clear to me if ICE has yet decided to comply.

"Under President Donald Trump, the US-Mexico border operated under hardline policies intended to keep migrants out of the United States, including a policy that required asylum seekers to stay in Mexico until their court dates in the US and a public health order allowing quick expulsion of migrants encountered by border agents.
Moves to increase capacity and shelter for migrants are indicative of one of the looming challenges for the Biden administration -- more migrants at the border -- but also signal a shift from the Trump administration's posture of turning everyone away."

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/fashion/article/joe-biden-makeover

https://i.imgur.com/V39NIRD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0R88hpL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/D8KQ4Ga.jpg

not good, man
https://i.imgur.com/p20vfbf.jpg

eh, that's just standard issue politicospeak, like those endless kitchen tables they love so much

only one country can win each century, every historian knows that

Canada won last century but the US has a great shot at winning this one

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/wilfrid-laurier-canadas-century-1904

like those endless kitchen tables they love so much

Chuck Schumer and the Smithenbergs

(imo it's good if politicians don't formally message insanely racist and imperalist and incomprehensible nonsense, even if other politicians have done so earlier)

As I was listening to the speech, I also wondered if perhaps Biden views rhetoric like that as a potential path to bipartisanship (or at least greater internal cooperation): identifying a common enemy that the country can unite behind to defeat.

There's a definite rally-the-troops quality to lines like this:

Can our democracy deliver on the most pressing needs of our people? Can our democracy overcome the lies, anger, hate and fears that have pulled us apart?

America’s adversaries – the autocrats of the world – are betting it can’t. They believe we are too full of anger and division and rage. They look at the images of the mob that assaulted this Capitol as proof that the sun is setting on American democracy. They are wrong. And we have to prove them wrong. We have to prove democracy still works. That our government still works – and can deliver for the people.

I don't know if the rhetoric will actually be persuasive, or if it's even a wise long-term play. But it feels like there's a political calculation behind it, at least to some degree.

a potential path to bipartisanship (or at least greater internal cooperation): identifying a common enemy that the country can unite behind to defeat.

https://static.rogerebert.com/uploads/review/primary_image/reviews/starship-troopers-1997/Starship-Troopers-image.jpg

watchmen or what have you

Suspicious that Joe Biden might just believes in American imperialism and his thirst for bipartisanship follows from that rather than vice versa.

https://theintercept.com/empire-politician/

this guy thinks so too

oooh. I was wondering what scahill was up to lately.

it's a good resource even if you don't agree with all his framing of Biden's stances

President Biden calls for Congress to pass the Equality Act with a message to trans Americans:

"For all transgender Americans watching at home, especially young people ... I want you to know your president has your back." pic.twitter.com/fQCXKQBWCS

— The Recount (@therecount) April 29, 2021

Lately I just assume that anything posted about Biden to any of these threads is some gotcha moment that makes him look like a clueless buffoon or racist or warmonger or fascist or whatever, so I end up watching or reading it several times, scratching my head, trying to figure out what he did or said wrong. Like seeing a New Yorker cartoon but struggling to get the punchline.

I thought his address dragged towards the end--I cut out at one point--but the first half was good. The one thing I thought he might get grief over was a throwaway aside: he was talking about cars lined up for food baskets and he said something like "and these were nice cars," as if that made the matter more urgent. Wasn't mentioned, though, in anything I've seen or heard.

blinkered Blinken needs to be shot into the sun and fuuuuuck all this posturing re China and po faced handwringing over leftist governments in S America, but I’ll say it: Biden is so far is the best prez of my lifetime. I have no illusions where his loyalties lie, or that he has anything approaching actual principles. but at least he (or tbh his handlers, cry about it) are attempting to respond to the moment in a way that makes some sort of sense. I know I’m gliding past a lot of gross shit re immigration and cop fondling and needlessly cruel healthcare policy and and etc etc, but hey

keep up the pressure imo and never ever stop bullying neolib politicians and their flacks online.

Probably the furthest left on economic policy since LBJ?

He’s gonna buy a military confrontation in the South China Sea with all those trillions

This is like a laser-guided missile at the top 0.1%:

Senior administration officials confirmed that the plan would include an increase in the top income tax rate from 37 per cent to 39.6 per cent for Americans earning more than $400,000, eliminate the preferential tax treatment of capital gains and dividends for those earning more than $1m and scrap provisions allowing people to pass unrealised capital gains to their heirs free of tax.

More like a half-filled water balloon, but I'll take it.

I mean it will be amazing if it passes intact. The Democratic party has rich donors too. But it's definitely bold by Capitol Hill standards.

And on top of their proposed international framework to end corporate tax evasion on a global scale, it's even more impressive.

Late to the party but wanted to point out that the image sic posted upthread

https://i.imgur.com/D8KQ4Ga.jpg

Was (on Reddit) accurately captioned "Joe Biden Fingering A Minor."

One could list the shortcomings of Biden's program—I could do without "beat China"—but these initiatives are all very good. The repudiation of trickle-down is a huge ideological shift. And it's massively popular—instant polling had approval around 80%. Didn't expect this of him.

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) April 29, 2021

RIP Morbs.

Is Biden finally figuring out that the Democratic platform is actually popular?

it is kind of eerie how well biden's platform tracks with general sentiment (relatively left on economic issues, hard right on immigration)

So...you mean populist ethno-fascism?

not quite that far but I've posted that study before about how those positions are (depressingly) the most popular respectively

what is going on in this photo?? this is like how they shot Lord of the Rings

The Bidens and the Carters at the Carter home in Georgia, last week: @CarterLibrary pic.twitter.com/uz4yGsfAc1

— Michael Beschloss (@BeschlossDC) May 4, 2021

you can see the strings on Jimmy

looks like they're on the set of Three's Company

The suit is a little too blue

what is going on in this photo?? this is like how they shot Lord of the Rings

very Lynchian too

it's gonna hurt when jimmy dies

Joe Biden is (currently) a security risk to the United States

BuzzFeed News found President Joe Biden’s Venmo account after less than 10 minutes of looking for it, revealing a network of his private social connections, a national security issue for the United States, and a major privacy concern for everyone who uses the popular peer-to-peer payments app.

On Friday, following a passing mention in the New York Times that the president had sent his grandchildren money on Venmo, BuzzFeed News searched for the president’s account using only a combination of the app’s built-in search tool and public friends feature. In the process, BuzzFeed News found nearly a dozen Biden family members and mapped out a social web that encompasses not only the first family, but a wide network of people around them, including the president's children, grandchildren, senior White House officials, and all of their contacts on Venmo.

i'm pretty sure someone could discover Biden's family members and senior officials without hacking venmo. i'm not sure what exact risks are being postulated here.

what do you think "hacking" is

Sadly, Biden is cancelled.

pic.twitter.com/7Z2PZuzGjQ

— Bad COVID-19 Takes (@BadCOVID19Takes) May 17, 2021

Naomi Wolf is what happens when Gwyneth Paltrow becomes a doctor

— A Concerned Citizen (@teachrunlifteat) May 17, 2021

I'm not a real big expert on public intellectuals, but I'm curious - was she ever good? then just got crazy, or is this a case of the bad just becoming more noticeable?

If your job is “public intellectual” you’re probably pretty dumb

https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/03/naomi-wolf-beauty-myth-feminism-conspiracy-theories.html

it was probably her fault al gore lost

Joe Biden is (currently) endorsing IDF propaganda and the eradication of journalists.

Today the President spoke with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, reaffirmed his strong support for Israel’s right to defend itself against rocket attacks from Hamas and other terrorist groups in Gaza, and condemned these indiscriminate attacks against Israel. pic.twitter.com/baHWh1b6Q2

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) May 15, 2021

lol

“In the White House there is a belief that the public will reward the president for reaching a bipartisan agreement on infrastructure.” https://t.co/UrPYt6Ft3y

— Blake News (@blakehounshell) June 1, 2021

🤡👟

Bipartisanship polls amazingly well. Whenever "the public" is asked about it in vague general terms they overwhelmingly approve of it. But its support is both tepid and shallow. The moment you poll about a specific issue then the usual ferocious partisanship instantly emerges.

iow, the White House is peddling nonsense. The question is whether they are peddling it knowingly, as a sop to the public's self-delusion about how nice bipartisanship would be, so that its just more political theater for the masses. Biden had a ringside seat for McConnell's treatment of Obama. He ought to know by now when he's being handed the dirty end of the stick.

Celebrate that bipartisanship.

Biden: "I hear all the folks on TV saying why doesn't Biden get this done? Well because Biden only has a majority of effectively four votes in the House and a tie in the Senate, with two members of the Senate who vote more with my Republican friends."

— Kathryn Watson (@kathrynw5) June 1, 2021

Remember the sales pitch about how he'd be the real President Deals and bring Republicans to the table? Good times, good times.

welp, Biden closed the sale and Trump didn't. Good times!

Not-so-subtle digs at Manchin and Sinema are a start, but he needs to step this shit up quickly.

Making voting the VP’s problem is not a good sign.

Dealing with voting rights attacks in at least 30 state legislatures and managing to squeak some kind of bill through the 50-50 Senate is going to be a hell of a complicated job. Biden is 78 years old. Harris is 56 years old. Delegating this to Harris seems to me like not such a bad sign as all that.

The person with no actual power (except to overrule the parliamentarian lol).

Biden 2024: Don’t Blame Me, I Told Her To Do It

Hey Dubya delegated everything to Dick Cheney!

Not-so-subtle digs at Manchin and Sinema are a start, but he needs to step this shit up quickly.

Why does he need to win them over? All the votes he's going to get from his Republican friends will outweigh two recalcitrant Dems.

(Giving the VP a responsibility or two seems like a sensible practice in general; Harris also seems likely to understand the importance of this one more than Biden does.)

Harris's power in this case is not based on the constitution, but based in her perceived ability to speak for the president. If Biden shows he'll back her up, then she will carry the power of his office by proxy. If he lets her hang out to dry, she'll be largely ignored. Presidents regularly employ VPs in both capacities, as Trump did by putting Pence 'in charge' of covid response. Too soon to know which way Biden is playing this, but it's obviously a critical issue, so he's got a big stake in her success.

Presidents regularly employ VPs in both capacities, as Trump did by putting Pence 'in charge' of covid response

Yes, using the VP as a patsy to evade responsibility is pretty much exactly why I said it’s a bad sign.

The Bidencare public option? I meant Harriscare, Jack.

Seems premature to read a 'bad sign' into it, but that reading suits your invincible cynicism about anything Biden or the Democratic Party does and who can say you're wrong at this stage of things?

The real question, Aimless, is why you still engage. You are not going to change the brick's mind.

100 days passed by a bit ago tbf

He goes to bed so early, you really have to give him a first 200 days.

.@POTUS: "How would it be if the United States were viewed by the rest of the world as interfering with the elections directly of other countries and everybody knew it? What would it be like if we engaged in activities that he engaged in? It diminishes the standing of a country." pic.twitter.com/yFFwwSKxSl

— The Hill (@thehill) June 16, 2021

https://i.imgur.com/IhD5LPF.png https://i.imgur.com/IhD5LPF.png https://i.imgur.com/IhD5LPF.png

hmm?

https://i.imgur.com/WtF7H30.jpg https://i.imgur.com/WtF7H30.jpg https://i.imgur.com/WtF7H30.jpg

Joe Biden: “I’m still standing”

#onethread

not to both sides it, but has any high level U.S. official, while in office, ever admitted to even a handful of the many dozens of time the U.S. has interfered or straight up led a coup against another government?

however, that's different from proudly proclaiming national integrity in the area, as Biden does in the quote above. but that willful ignorance also seems to be a hallmark of U.S. presidents. except trump of course

Obama admitted to the coup in Iran and he and Bill Clinton apologized for U.S. policies in Guatemala and Argentina. Which prompted this:

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/120918060228-mills-romney-no-apology-story-tablet.jpg

i like countries without braggadocio

America is like Kasabian

xp thanks President Keyes! i had completely forgotten about that. welp, biden seems to have spun us back to "it never happened, pretty much"

He won't even apologize for putting the family dog in a cage on the station wagon's roof

listen, mitt romney grew up without a whole lot of money. he built his name on hard work alone, with no help from anyone. maybe he couldn't afford a BIG van that could have fit an entire dog inside of it. maybe he had to IMPROVISE with what he had. with what he earned from scratch.

so fucking cool

Joe Biden’s new anti-terrorism initiative classifies “anarchist violent extremists” that “oppose all forms of capitalism, corporate globalization, and governing institutions, which are perceived as harmful to society” as “domestic violent extremists.” pic.twitter.com/GKmsQsGBaA

— Ford Fischer (@FordFischer) June 18, 2021

also note the "pro-choice" extremists included there, I'm sure we can all recite the many pro-choice acts of terrorism that have disrupted this fine country

remember when an anarchist violent extremist literally wasted a president, that was cool

that willful ignorance also seems to be a hallmark of U.S. presidents

presidents are, by the nature of their job, great compartmentalizers. they can spout counter-factual nonsense like that with complete sincerity and emotional conviction to an audience. in that moment they truly believe it to be true because their audience badly wants it to be true, and so, to connect with that audience, they must feel the same 'truth' with equal emotional strength and conviction.

is that good

there ain't no good guys
there ain't no bad guys

is that good

'good' is often a murky and malleable concept when applied to politics. it depends entirely on one's perspective and whose good is being measured.

I think presidents experience this compartmentalization as highly rewarding behavior, firstly on a practical level because it helps get them elected and grants them power, but also it's emotionally rewarding because it earns them public praise, helps them maintain popularity and secures their high social status. thus, very 'good' in their eyes.

if you want a wholly objective analysis of its goodness or badness, you will be looking it for a very long time.

It's not good.

how so?

well it seems to enable passively rewriting history for one

what am I saying? nothing passive about it.

Going to register my doubt that a significant percentage of Joe Biden’s voters really feel the looming danger of Antifa and ‘pro-choice extremists.’

Biden’s actions (whether on this one or the aforementioned willful ignorance) aren’t born of strategizing about what got him elected - they’re what this fossil believes.

it seems to enable passively rewriting history for one

Do presidents have sole custody of history and how it is written? No.

Is writing history their primary job? No.

If Biden had said what is undoubtedly true, which is that the USA had frequently fomented coups and interfered with elections in dozens of countries, as well as instigating wars of conquest throughout its long, criminal history, how would that have been greeted? By millions of Americans suddenly accepting this dismal fact? No.

Would it have strengthened his political purpose of painting Russian interference in US elections as something insidious, wrong, and to be strenuously objected to? No.

It seems to me that the good you have identified is tenuous at best, in that the 'good' effect on history you imply would result is beyond merely being uncertain, it is so unlikely as to be vanishing.

If you would like further contradictory rationalizations, apply below. I would hardly rate your cited 'good' as beyond a multitude of reasonable doubts.

remember when liberals shrieked about how trump was destroying the concept of truth lol

lol I and p much everyone I’ve dated in the last five years are terrorists now, I guess. fun!

also, as Charles Pierce pointed out, this mf was on the Church committee, he’s not just actively lying about history, he’s lying about his own experience of it, which happened on live tv

xp Gee. If you would like to make it a competition, as I vaguely recall being reported, Trump was cited for about 20,000 blatant untruths during his presidency. So may that those who kept track eventually gave up on attempting a thorough accounting. How about citing Biden's score since his inauguration? He'd need about 1900 more than the one we're discussing to keep up with Trump.

btw, I am not in any way arguing that Biden's denial that the US has frequently interfered with elections was anything but untrue. It was so far from the truth it enters the realm of delusion. What I am arguing is that this sort of participation in the collective delusions of the US masses has an identifiable political value, and substituting the dismal truth in that situation would have had almost zero practical benefit to society.

The only viable alternative was to say nothing about US history in this regard, but he chose to surf on the delusion in order to leverage the delusion on his behalf. That is not admirable, but it is good politics. As the newspaper editor at the end of "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" says at the end, when the legend becomes fact, print the legend. The legend of US purity and benevolence is unalterable fact to tens of millions.

wonder why

maybe something to do with entrenched power spreading falsehoods deliberately over decades

who can say

I blame Joe Biden. He could fix it if he wanted to.

thank you for reminding me why I stopped posting in these threads lol peace

you should run for office instead. the world needs you.

I blame Joe Biden. He could fix it if he wanted to.

Unless you think puppetmasters are literally putting words in Sleepy Joe’s mouth… he actually can fix this. No one makes him say stupid and absolutely false things like “the US interfere in elections? Who could imagine that, Jack?”

I noted he had the alternative of saying nothing about that history. So we agree about that.

I was addressing the contention that Joe refraining from lying about the US history in this instance would somehow affect how history is written and generally was estimating how much measurable 'good' would have been accomplished by his saying nothing at all, or alternatively citing chapter and verse of all the US crimes in this regard, while he was speaking about Russian interference in US elections.

It's not like these facts are mysteries to ILXors; they are not buried by historians. The conversation was about Biden saying one stupid, untrue thing in order to strengthen his contention that the Russian interference was bad for the USA by citing a pure falsehood about our history. As cause for complaint in presidential conduct this is just belly scratching. We do it mainly because it feels good.

RIP Champ

is it beneficial to have all elected reps be sociopaths who think that voters are too stupid or fragile not to lie to, or does it kick in at a certain level of influence?

i dunno bro, ask Obama

sic's just a curious guy, askin' questions

wait, is "Aimless" not Obama's login? I don't read Springsteen threads

I think there's more than one ilxor who'd feel insulted to equate me with Barack Obama.

Joe Bombin

holy shit this guy gets it and is done with the bullshit pic.twitter.com/8ypsnG1htV

— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) July 23, 2021

Some good news about judges.

President Biden and the Democratic-controlled Senate have installed more federal judges during the first six months of his presidency than any administration since Richard Nixon's.

Why it matters: While Democrats may spend more time talking publicly about vaccines and infrastructure, the rapid pace of both nominations and confirmations shows judges are one of the party's most urgent priorities. President Trump pushed through his own slate of judges to boost conservatives for decades.

By the numbers: Biden has had eight federal judges confirmed since taking office on Jan. 20

After weeks of silence, the White House is now saying -- just 3 days before the eviction moratorium expires -- that they want Congress to extend it but can't themselves

My reporting suggests no senior officials in the WH were pushing for an extension even before the court ruling https://t.co/Zn96xgwBYT

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) July 29, 2021

this fucking white supremacist rapist mass murdering cop loving piece of shit scum ramping up the ethnic cleansing that people insisted his administration would protect against is it

the attempts to defend this shit in the comments are absolutely repulsive, liberals are fucking monsters

I looked this up because you didn’t link anything… two days after a CNN story abt it isn’t breaking anything. He’s speeding up asylum processing, which is very good, so obviously deportations of those who don’t qualify would toohttps://t.co/E7B7Yr3axf

— domnahm (@d_vasapolli) July 29, 2021

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7gXSE2VcAEI0Lk?format=jpg

That last part in blue is particularly important. He's been using title 42 expulsions this whole time to crack down on Haitians while claiming his deportation numbers are low.

— 🏞️➡️🌊🇵🇸🔜🆓 (@JackDexterity) July 30, 2021

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/07/us/politics/biden-congress-eviction-moratorium.html

But as the relief money moved slowly and the Delta variant surged, members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus pressed Gene Sperling, who oversees pandemic relief programs for the White House, and Mr. Biden’s chief of staff, Ron Klain, to commit to another extension. The officials were pessimistic and noncommittal. On July 27, Mr. Sperling emailed the group’s chairwoman, Pramila Jayapal, a Democrat from the Seattle area, to say the answer was a firm “no.” That was followed by a call from Mr. Klain, who asked her to delay a news conference denouncing the move.

Ms. Jayapal refused.

“Then we began agitating and building a chorus,” Ms Jayapal said.

I guess activists couldn't move Joe Biden after all.

lol what a gotcha!!!

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/267/swedish_chef.jpg

Sure would be nice if Jayapal was Speaker.

hi, map!! It's been a while!

hi just putting in the minimal effort to call out your facile milo zing, excited to skip over more of your sloppy writing and thinking in the future. cheers!

Hi! I wasn't zinging you -- I was genuinely saying hi -- but I suppose shallow reading is something you excel at.

haha it is! sorry alfred.

Sure would be nice if Jayapal was Speaker.

― JoeStork

I have been saying this

seconded

and because many stories since January have attested to her White House connections -- i.e. a direct line exists between her and them -- it makes sense.

If Jayapal is the successor, I'm more than willing to let go of Pelosi. Since my personal congressional rep is a fucking blue dog who voted against Pelosi for her current Speaker's term in the hope of moving the caucus to the right, I'm hesitant to think that Jayapal can win the votes she needs to move the caucus left.

As much as I would like Jayapal in that role, I thought the conventional wisdom was that Hakeem Jeffries would be Pelosi's successor.

Pelosi needs to do go away after the midterms no matter what. Today would be cool too

you can tell the media is really 100% turning against Biden because they're starting to transcribe what he says as he actually says it https://t.co/YDyx2vlllE

— WILLI (@muenzenberg_w) August 20, 2021

what a piece of shit tweet that would be shared by anyone's racist dumbass cousin.

Not to be Cap'n Save-a-Biden, but I thought it tolerably well known that the dude has had a stutter since he was a child.

Even if you think that's what it is rather than being an ancient man, the joke of the tweet is that the media that's been 100% in the bag for him and covered every time someone questioned him is starting to highlight what might be embarrassing pauses and stutters.

What about them do you find embarrassing?

the joke of the tweet

the ppm of humor in that tweet were at undetectable levels

Did you read the two words before that? (Or the rest of them, for that matter.)

what a strange conclusion to draw

xp

Honestly, it is nearly impossible to parse out what you get out of that tweet or your reasons for posting it ar all.

Dunkin' on Unkie Joe iirc

The media’s response to Pull Out Joe after two years of puff pieces and covering for him is funny.

especially bc they're doing it bc they're hawks

actually now it's less funny

So kudos to the press because they punished the unforgivable sin of leaving Afghanistan by highlighting his old age/stutter?

Did you read kudos anywhere?

Yes, the funny part is that corruption, sexual assault allegations, being confused in general were all issues to pointedly ignore but the cardinal sin of (momentarily) betraying the MIC is when the knives come out.

The thought behind Biden’s response is not especially salutary, whether the delivery is broken up by a stutter, senescence, or dissembling.

One transcription doesn’t make a pattern, but if this did or has become a regular thing at given outlets, it would contrast notably with the tidying and elision routinely applied to the former guy’s incoherent exclamations.

Like I said, it is impossible to parse your motivation for dropping a tweet like that with zero commentary, but your unquenchable thirst for this stuff is always a wonder to behold.

xp

it is impossible to parse your motivation

Is it or is that just complicated by your insistence on putting words in my mouth/not reading ('kudos,' 'why would you say that's embarrassing')?

Let's see what we have here. The quoted tweet cites one small snippet of text, transcribed by who knows what individual or where it was published, and it concludes on that basis alone that '100% of the media are turning against Biden', and your reaction to this bit of total stupidity is to find it funny, not because it is so stupid, but because in your mind obviously the whole media has 'pulled out its knives' against Biden, when before this they were all obviously in his pocket?

It's amazing how many people repeatedly over years now misconstrue what you post. Kudos!

But, yes, the Beltway press is grotesque in its predictability.

xxp

I'm trying to figure out what your point is, which is difficult when you prefer insinuating things rather than just owning them.

it concludes on that basis alone that '100% of the media are turning against Biden'

Is that what it says?

it says: you can tell the media is really 100% turning against Biden, so yes. it does say that.

I’m starting to believe that Milo ~does not like Joe Biden.

But does he like like Joe Biden

he's just not that into him

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/28/politics/biden-afghanistan-polling-analysis/index.html

Losing ground on COVID and the economy.

Lot of sabotage going on imo

lol at public opinion on Covid and Afghanistan. A huge hunk of America isn't even doing the minimum to mitigate covid, so of course that's Biden's fault. And an even bigger hunk of America probably hasn't thought about Afghanistan in decades, and certainly couldn't find it on a map. But sure, they're upset about his handling of that, too. Knowing this stupid country, he's probably losing approval on handling of Covid for *trying* to handle Covid, and losing support on Afghanistan for *not* signing up for two more decades of war.

In other words, fuck the polls, which are not only often wrong, but iirc stand right now at their lowest where his predecessor stood at his *highest* approval number.

I like him now

Joe Biden appears to have fallen asleep during a meeting with the Prime Minister of Israel. pic.twitter.com/wdqHRmKC3G

— JT Lewis (@thejtlewis) August 28, 2021

oh wow

i mean, the topic matter is prettttty dull

He's looking down and maybe closing his eyes in concentration (hard to tell with the angle), but immediately after the Twitter clip ends, he responds to Bennett: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seQx_5MckGI

It's just a joke lol

He responded, “...wuzza smnnnggg heaaahr? Oh. Hey, listen. That’s number two. America will be Israel’s strategic partner during the apocalypse. That’s number one.”

itt we post tweets from republicans making fun of joe biden

i.e. the same content as anyone's dumbass racist cousin

Racist against Delawareans?

outside the shared sense of humor, the content diverges, and that's where you'll find the racism. before or after the next show, maybe probe the minds at adjacent tables of the Joe Biden Funny Bone comedy club. you definitely aren't these people -- so what the fuck are you doing there?

I thought you found the racism in Joe's Senate career.

The formulation of 'only bad people make fun of Joe' and 'to prove this I'm just going to throw out the word racist' hasn't gotten less stupid since you tried it last.

Maybe he wasn't nodding off, he just daydreamed about his glory days palling around with Strom Thurmond. Whomst among us doesn't daydream of better times?

please. save this material for your peers at the Funny Bone. don't waste it on me.

There are legit things to dislike Biden for so you don’t have to post heavily edited misleading videos by right wingers.

That also are just”Biden old lol”

I know they have the same last name, but milo z and xyzzz z__ are different posters

I see that it was xyzzzz who posted that, sorry Milo. You are right that his career had been garbage up to this point.

itt we post tweets from republicans making fun of joe biden

― jaymc, Sunday, 29 August 2021 bookmarkflaglink

That's right

Looking for the Joe Vibin thread.

THREAD: Biden is reportedly nominating a former judge, Keva Landrum, to be U.S. Atty in New Orleans. The history of this judge’s illegal behavior and violent crimes will shock you to the core.

— Alec Karakatsanis (@equalityAlec) September 20, 2021

Will it though? My inner core is insulated and very difficult to shock

will have to insulation resistance test on you to confirm this, just grab these two metal probes of this Megger, pal!

AGGHHHHHHHHAHHAHHGHHHHHH

Joe Biden just flew by my window in a helicopter, then in air force one about 30 minutes later.

wow that guy is the President!

he sure is. but not according to the protesters at his thing this afternoon, I guess

he can fly a helicopter and a plane, busy guy

they won't let him drive his Corvette anymore, they took away the keys

he can still drive it in his mind

For at least the fourth time, Biden told a vivid story this week about a conversation with an old Amtrak friend who had actually been dead for more than a year at the earliest time such a conversation could've possibly happened.

At least he didn't claim to have liberated the camps (yet).

He has repeatedly claimed to have been arrested trying to meet Nelson Mandela tbf

finally! Dems have a Reagan! Now if he only he could notch those 1981 legislative successes.

Did he say Mandela or did he say "that fella from the island"?

that fella from Mandela

can't you rhyme?

Jack Mandela

I have to admit the Let’s Go Brandon thing makes me chuckle

now this is the kind of political crisis I've been craving

🚨 | BREAKING: Joe Biden ‘broke wind’ infront of Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall.

‘It was long and loud and impossible to ignore. Camilla hasn’t stopped talking about it’

Via @MoS_Politics

— Politics For All (@PoliticsForAlI) November 6, 2021

Joe Fartin'

Constitutional crisis

If only he had crop dusted the Queen.

Trump already did

No future

The fart that launched 1000 shits

maybe i like joe biden now

Wish I had voted for Joe now oh wait

BREAKING:

long airplane flights exacerbate such conditions donchaknow

note that no American politician has been a larger advocate for traveling by rail

coincidence?

i say nay

a senior-level official confirms that "Joe always seems to sit by the window and asks for it to be cracked a little - or a lot"

The Silent Killer from MBNA

White House pool report says Biden will stay in the vacation home of David Rubenstein, co-founder of the Carlyle Group, in Nantucket

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) November 23, 2021

There once was a home in Nantucket

where the president stayed and I said, "Fuck it."

when he called for a vote

they thought he said scrote

Then he suddenly kicked the bucket?

Where the president felt a bit yuck, it
Felt a right undie-filler
But he noticed camilla
So he lifted his arse cheek and snuck it

So let me get this straight. Hunters laptop did reveal him trading on his name…But he did so to help his friend Tucker Carlson? You couldn’t make it up.

— Tim Miller (@Timodc) December 3, 2021

I tried to figure out the story behind that tweet, and it all seems so stupid, convoluted, and childish that I can't muster the effort (same with QAnon).

laptops you just don't care about

thanks joe https://t.co/bBz2uUiV1f

— sclv (@sclv) December 8, 2021

pic.twitter.com/BjINp3avoR

— 🌽 John, socialist Texan 🌽 (@FLAContention) December 17, 2021

shout-out to the big guy at his vaccine press conference just now, asking us to have empathy for working-class families struggling on a household income of $120,000pa.

The wording here made me laugh:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/21/politics/biden-trump-covid-vaccine-booster/index.html

"...just the other day former President Trump announced he had gotten his booster shot. It may be one of the few things he and I agree on."

We agree that he got his booster shot.

Joe Biden, 15/10/2020:

We're eight months into this pandemic, and Donald Trump still doesn't have a plan to get this virus under control.

I do.

Joe Biden, 22/12/21:

"Nothing's been good enough. I don't think it's a failure. I think it's -- you could argue that we should have known a year ago, six months ago, two months ago, a month ago. ... I wish I had thought about ordering half a million (tests) two months ago, before Covid hit here."

Joe Biden, 27/12/21:

"There is no federal solution, this gets solved at state level ... and that ultimately gets down to where the rubber meets the road, and that's where the patient is in need of help -- or preventing the need for help. My message to the governors is simple: if you need something, say something."

Biden was scheduled to depart later in the afternoon for a holiday stay at his vacation home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware

Has he considered an executive order to make COVID illegal? That would put us in line with the rest of the world, which has definitely curtailed COVID.

Based on the structure of federal power to compel states under existing law and the refusal of many states to accept or follow federal guidance, Biden's probably correct in stating that "there is no federal solution" apart from imposing a state of emergency/martial law and calling out US armed forces to enforce it. In the current poisoned political atmosphere that would not 'solve' covid so much as spark off more armed insurrection and bloodshed and come that much closer to destroying whatever comity still exists in the USA.

Was that his plan?

if a majority of governors neither follow nor cooperate with his plans, but instead do whatever they damn well please, and a large number of people who live in states that have cooperative governors also refuse to comply, then how much does it matter what his plan is?

Why bother saying you have a plan, then?

if you're really so interested in getting to the bottom of what his plan was, I bet the details of his plan were made public during the 2020 campaign, probably as a white paper posted on his web site. chances are good you could unearth those details with a bit of research. we all know the web is a great resource for doing research. then you can judge whether it was a good plan or not and how much he was able to do, how much he failed to do and how much of his failure was due to circumstances outside his control.

or you could just do what you always do.

I read it in October 2020 - is that what I always do?

(may have been November - I welcome the rigorous fact-checking that you endorse above)

He only said he had a plan. It’s like having an exercise machine—doesn’t mean you do anything with it.

Maybe the spread of the new variants caught the administration off guard

I guess 'fuck it, you don't care - go ahead and get sick, I don't give a shit but you better make your student loan/car payment/credit card payments' is a plan of some measure.

I recall hearing a plan long ago. the next phase is Covid goes to Jupiter to get more stupider.

The plan was summed up by Jello Biafra long ago in the song "Kill the Poor," don't ya know.

there is a plan to get the left revved up before the midterms

National pot legalization?

that would be dope

plz

why would he legalize something that's already been done in half the country, is inevitable, and is just fine unless you're that all up in arms about having to smell pot smoke like 4 times a year on a street you've never been on?

no, it's better to just steer the country back to 2006 and pretend nothing happened

off topic but squares who oppose weed legalization because of the smells are the most square rectangles in a quadrangle i've ever fucking heard of, go smoke a blunt and get a lil' bendy ya fukken squares

it smells bad so teenagers should go to prison!!!!!!! RGB is a fukken legend, let's go to the mural store and buy a fukken RGB mural poster

cos that's her name, RGB, Ruth Gator Binsburg

that's what my daughter calls her. We have some books about her. Last time we were picking out some bedtime reading my wife suggested one (we just list all the books till she says ok) and Opal said "I know all about Ruth Gader Binsburg" and now that's a recurring joke. I read one of them the other night and ends with a very unfortunate page saying like "Some people think Ruth should resign, but she's going to keep on fighting!" or whatever. I had to close the book and say "actually...."

read one of them the other night and ends with a very unfortunate page saying like "Some people think Ruth should resign, but she's going to keep on fighting!" or whatever. I had to close the book and say "actually...."

yup.
I think it was this one: https://kidsbooks.com/Store/Details/9781481465595B?source=ppc&ppc_campaign=g10013861003&gclid=CjwKCAiAiKuOBhBQEiwAId_sK9Pg3rsCQCUiNaQ48lwB2muxg8B4CMGqB5BEK3qxYq_v-ZrfyPA-rBoCPyMQAvD_BwE

looool, that is awesome :)

Supreme Court justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has spent a lifetime disagreeing with people who said she should retire before something really bad happens

Maybe the spread of the new variants caught the administration off guard

I am the president-elect, but will not be president until next year. COVID-19 does not respect dates on the calendar, it is accelerating right now. Urgent action is needed today, now, by the current administration.

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) November 14, 2020

I used to say we’re rushing to the same cliff, there’s just two options in terms of speed.

p sure both vehicles are going the exact same speed now; option one is a Subaru and the other is 70k truck w a blue lives punisher sticker and nuts hanging from the hitch

that was during a winter surge and wasn’t an incredibly contagious variant, i’m sure you’ll argue this point and i’ll be wrong somehow

the plan was afaict a total abstraction to get votes but if there was a plan it was vaccine distribution which happened on an earlier timetable than the trump admin was capable of, i think, that’s also just a thought experiment. vaccine disparity between us and world still unforgivable ofc

“keep the economy humming even or especially if it costs lives” is such a deeply embedded cultural value idk if we’ll ever see the other side of it

like i’m still blown away that there was ever a lockdown

lockdown-ish, as I like to call it - it was state by state, and some states never did, and various degrees of permissiveness as to what you could do. I was pissed when we reopened just about every state too early, without them meeting the guidelines established for re-opening.

but yea, I am surprised we saw Red states doing it at all - I also was shocked that we managed to get the $600 per week unemployment passed (with the predictable pushback from Rs), less surprised when the initial rollout was a disaster due to giving the responsibility to states (which was a bad move).

there was a lockdown?

yeah, a lockdown on my freedom

spring 2020 when the they decided to actually try paying people to stay home (republicans no less) was, in retrospect, very radical for the us imo. those few months with no traffic and a paycheck every week, more than i've ever made before, were totally amazing from my pov. feel like the last two years has been both sides of the government just making absolutely sure that will never, ever happen again.

Yeah, it definitely had the feel of "ok fine, we're gonna do this HORRIBLY DESTRUCTIVE TO THE ECONOMY thing once, but that's it, we cannot keep doing this HORRIBLY DESTRUCTIVE TO THE ECONOMY thing after so get your affairs in order!". and I suspect a lot of Rs were thinking election year when they did it - it gave "I don't need no handout" conservative cranks an out to where getting a handout was acceptable ("ah couldn't do mah job!"0

now I have friends terribly afraid of losing weeks of work and not being able to pay rent and there is eerie deja vu.

dunno how President Manchin feels about it now

the Empire of West Virginia has seceded

The sick part is, we have evidence those checks...stimulated the economy and provided household savings.

saved my mother from utter ruin (or my brother and I from ruin, more like). and many many friends.

sounds awful. for democrats, i mean, that they were able to help you. that's not the kind of message they want to be sending heading into the midterms.

don't worry I assured everybody that my folks will be reporting to a worker's prison as soon as the pandemic is over

the message, instead is this: we're back on track and we're headed toward tomorrow. we can't look back now, we've got to go forward. we have to forget where we've been and think about where we're going. where are we going? that's the question we need to be asking. we need to be listening to each other more. we need to be quiet, sometimes, you know, and just listen? everybody, just be quiet and listen, ok? now everybody, i want you to grab the hand of the person next to you, go ahead, that's right don't be shy now, it's just hands! and let's close our eyes now and just listen in, toward the middle, listening to our own breaths. let's forget the past, together. where is the past, if we can't return to it? what is the past, if your past is different than my own? when was the past, and which one was it? forget the past. no one can be wrong here.

*joe biden quietly breaks from the circle and is escorted by secret service into air force one

"dunno how President Manchin feels about it now"

https://y.yarn.co/3742b89f-8b66-4eaf-9699-a630617ce08c_screenshot.jpg

We got to sop up all that free money, because we caaint open up the KFC except at the drive through. Good lawd fellas, man's got to sit down at the KFC after the church meetin' or else he gits it all over his Sunday clothes.

that was during a winter surge and wasn’t an incredibly contagious variant, i’m sure you’ll argue this point and i’ll be wrong somehow

(sincerely not trying to generate argument with any individuals, least of all Brad, but imo we are currently in a winter surge exacerbated by travel for Thanksgiving family gatherings, just as last November, when in the previous post the same dude described it as a "surge (that) demands a robust and immediate federal response which has been woefully lacking")

(at the very least I don't see any way in which December 27 2021 is less "winter" than November 13 2021!)

Joe Biden, November 2020:

"I am alarmed by the surge in reported COVID-19 infections, hospitalizations, and fatalities. This crisis demands a robust and immediate federal response which has been woefully lacking."

Joe Biden, January 2022:

lol idk, google some shit and figure it out

trump gave everyone $2000 when way less people had COVID

yeah, and they used it to buy fentanyl

$2000 in two payments over the span of 10 months, during a period of time when Rs were more amenable to voting "Yay" on a recovery package (i.e. when they had a Republican President in office whose approval rating could benefit, when the pandemic was new).

being that DINOs like Manchin want means testing for people receiving any benefits like this now, good luck getting this shit passed now.

lets not pretend it wasn't a Democrat proposal that virtually every Dem voted Yes on

Does that matter to the populace in general? A Republican President and Republican Senate were in office when people got those checks and the situation somehow seemed less hopeless. Oh, a Democrat is stopping Democrats from doing anything to assuage misery now? I'm sure when the midterms roll around "elect more Democrats to stop Democrats from stopping Democrats from helping you" will be a killer slogan.

Those dastardly Republicans just doesn't work when it was Biden who had to be dragged kicking and screaming into not restarting student loan payments at the peak of Omicron.

Got it, so should we vote for Republicans or just not vote?

that's the point.
that's why there has to be a revolution.
but it can't, because of what's happening.
so, we just have to keep watching out for that

I don't know, vote for whomever you want to, doesn't seem to matter much in the end.

today I learned a city testing site that I found by Googling charged me $1,068.89 for a test I didn't even end up getting 🙃 https://t.co/kgVSTS1bUZ

— Alex Shephard (@alex_shephard) January 5, 2022

right.

so what are the steps after that? it's that there has to be a big fundamental change, many are saying. some presidential candidates would refer to it every single day as "a revolution". but why doesn't that revolution happen. welp, yes, alas. we'll just have to keep an eye on all that

Steps after voting for whomever you want to vote for? I dunno, they usually hand me a sticker on the way out. I like to put it on my hat for the rest of the day.

Do any of you know what primaries are ? We need more people to primary out centrist assholes, and more people to run in those primaries.

i do not know what primaries are

but i know they're one of the first things in a process, probably one of the most...essential parts of it

for me it's always been about the secondary and tertiaries, though. i'm talking brown & crouppen

i enjoy primaries most when too many people are trying to primary the centrist and they each get a little bit of the vote, as a treat

With the right primary wins, 125 members of the House Progressive Caucus could have folded on Build Back Better instead of 85.

So let’s get on that revolution thing. Most Americans agree with us on that, right?

Whole lotta people showed up for a revolution last Jan. 6th!

Ok can’t succeed don’t try sorry to have said anything

the revolution will be endlessly revised

Finally, bipartisanship:

NEW: Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper claims that Trump said when demonstrators were filling the streets around the White House following the death of George Floyd: “Can't you just shoot them? Just shoot them in the legs or something?"

— Jon Cooper (@joncoopertweets) May 2, 2022

Roe v. Wade is the law of the land, and we must fight any and all attempts to overturn it. As president, I will codify Roe into law and ensure this choice remains between a woman and her doctor. https://t.co/kaJbYWcYhL

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) October 5, 2019

but we must wait until it has already happened and is far too late, to even begin to muster a counterattack and to begin to do what is right

November 2, 2020:

The first thing @JoeBiden and I will do in the White House is get this virus under control.

— Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) November 3, 2020

May 13, 2022:

Biden urges local leaders to use unspent Covid relief money to hire more police

May 21, 2022:

576 officers lost their lives in the line of duty in 2021. 

We passed a Senate resolution designating this week as National Police Week to honor the officers who put their lives on the line every day to protect our communities. One small way to recognize their courage.

— Amy Klobuchar (@amyklobuchar) May 21, 2022

(444 of these deaths were from COVID.)

May 23, 2022:

Two months after dropping the mask mandate, my city is at 377 new COVID-19 cases per 100,000 residents in the past 7 days. This is the second-highest peak of the pandemic to date (testing is now largely self-reported, so raw numbers are certainly far higher than recorded, but will still be below January 2022.)

May 24, 2022:

A mass-murderer entered a Texas high school and killed at least 19 children and two adults. Some of the dead children were so badly shot that parents had to be DNA swabbed to compare to corpses, in order to identify them. Current police funding is at a level (40% of the total city budget) that the school district has a distinct force. Multiple members of this school district police force fired on the murderer outside the school, but failed to stop him entering the premises.

We passed a Senate resolution designating this week as National Police Week to honor the officers who put their lives on the line every day to protect our communities. One small way to recognize their courage.

This National Police Week marked the second anniversary of the protracted murder of George Floyd by a group of police officers. When hundreds of thousands of citizens protested this brutality, Joe Biden repeatedly called for the protestors to be shot and for police funding to be increased.

Joe Biden repeatedly called for the protestors to be shot

source? are you talking about the "aim for the leg and not the heart" thing?

cant believe it all started with that kamala tweet. a true butterfly effect.

the kamala effect

I do consider my legs to be part of me, yes.

sorry, not gonna buy any theory that posits Kamala affecting something

sic, I believe Biden was advocating shooting unarmed "suspects" in the leg not protesters, but the rest of your points are solid

He talked about "an unarmed person coming at 'em," during the protests that were themselves being met with brutality in response. It's possible he meant "people suspected of using a counterfeit $20 bill a month ago," and not "unarmed people marching toward police in the context of current daily events," but I'm going to assign infelicity in wording to the speaker rather than the listener, if so.

what he said was pretty ignorant, but it's clear his point was that police officers shouldn't shoot to kill, and you're deliberately misrepresenting that to fit your narrative

that is to say, he absolutely did not repeatedly called for protestors to be shot

Who gives a fuck? The guy wrote the 94 crime bill, he can rot in fucking hell

“oh he didn’t actually say that”

shut the fuck up

tbc I agree that Biden sucks ass

There’s no such thing as ‘shooting to wound,’ I would expect someone responsible for writing crime and policing legislation to understand that.

sorry, it’s just like, we don’t need to defend the guy or parse what he was saying.

what he said was bullshit and cruel, because he’s a racist fucking moron who loves power. end of story.

deliberately misrepresenting that

I promise you, as someone who was being teargassed every third night that month, I sincerely took his rhetoric at face value.

And tbf I would still consider it a wild escalation with deleterious public safety consequences, whether he meant "shoot unarmed protestors," or "shoot an unarmed man who may or may not have been in possession of a counterfeit $20 note," but I'll happily replace the former inference with the latter if he clarifies.

personally this thread has convinced me that bidens brief remarks 2 years ago in support of using the justice departments civil rights division to reform police training were actually meant to advocate for mowing down protesters, and that he did it repeatedly instead of at that one event, after all he wrote the crime bill

reform police training

Do you think shooting people in the leg is the kind of police training we need?

(looking at the transcript of the town hall where he advocated for shooting people in the legs, there's exactly zero mentions of "the civil rights division")

The willingness of people to cape for this senescent fossil after 17 months of complete ineptitude remains astounding.

its true, you got me, me and joe biden hate legs

What have they (legs) done for us

Does your other eye work is my question

oh yeah well does your table... is... a table... ah shit, nm

lmfao

I dunno, given that we’re experiencing a series of cascading social collapses, I think people doubling down on system justification expression is going to increase.

A lot more folks will be compelled to go full-Thomas Friedman in all avenues of communication just to stave off horror.

Once again, bipartisanship!

And what do you call this act? Etc.

The White House refused to call for an investigation into the police response to the school shooting in Uvalde, Texas, saying President Joe Biden
"has the utmost respect for the men and women of law enforcement."

COPS: we engaged outside and he was wearing armor. actually we didn't and he wasnt but the resource officer followed him inside and then we contained him. uh there was no RO actually and we were standing outside for an hour tasing parents,
BIDEN: god bless our honest sexy cops https://t.co/pwpi4qh1rf

— a hungry mouth (@AHUNGRYMOUTH) May 26, 2022

Joe Biden was not currently the President of the United States of America, but he would have liked to be:

Roe v. Wade is the law of the land, and we must fight any and all attempts to overturn it. As president, I will codify Roe into law and ensure this choice remains between a woman and her doctor. https://t.co/kaJbYWcYhL

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) October 5, 2019

I’ve warned about how overturning Roe risks a broader right to privacy for everyone.

The right to make the best decisions for your health.
The right to marry the person you love.

With your vote, you can act. You can have the final word. This is not over.

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) June 25, 2022

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/Catch22.jpg

the producers of the breitbart-backed movie about hunter biden apparently dropped a full trailer on truth social last night, and it is really something. pic.twitter.com/16aFQ0jYy0

— hannah gais (@hannahgais) August 26, 2022

"a robert davi film"

lol laurence fox is hunter biden?!?

Finally, a movie I want to see

Holy fuck I think I need to watch that

Ahahaha is that Gina Carano

lol

Biden spending 90% of his job mumbling and checked out then 10% of it hilariously shit talking while tearing through six months of goals in three weeks kind of makes him the most relatable president of all time

— Josh Raby (@JoshRaby) August 27, 2022

Robert Davi is an award-winning actor, screenwriter, director, producer and jazz vocalist.

apparently Davi has a longer history with the conservative media sphere, kind of a bummer, really enjoy him as a character actor in all his big hammy parts. looks like he is playing Brezhnev in an upcoming hagiographic Reagan biopic.

he did sing in The Goonies.

Hunter movie subset of this:

maga getting so mad at dark brandon they make him look badass pic.twitter.com/OlfceStjtA

— kilgore trout, death to putiner (@KT_So_It_Goes) August 26, 2022

"And this popped into my hands. And I was frustrated, like all of America watching that Biden story: the laptop story being buried, continually buried — except for people like [host Jesse Watters] that brought it forward. So when it came into my hands, I was like Peter Finch in ‘Network’ — I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore, as the American people are."

Davi said the film, like many other projects from the Irish-American documentarians behind it, was funded through crowd-sourcing.

So obviously the story they wanna tell is that the scandalous laptop “ruins everything” and that Joe loses as a result, which obviously didn’t happen, so they’re gonna have to lean into the whole voter fraud angle and I’m legitimately curious how hard they’re gonna do it

just wait for the GOP to take the house. they'll let everyone know, as, unfortunately, they are going to have to impeach biden for what he did

and, if they steal things competently enough, they are unfortunately going to have to have the DOJ prosecute biden. he'll probably die before that gets sorted out though

sorry, i just read an important op-ed titled "No, MAGA Republicans do not support ‘semi-fascism'", by Henry Olsen in the Washington Post. i am awash in a turd that has melted and i'm beginning to get used to the smells

Without reading further, I agree with Olsen's thesis!

I'm mad that the Hunter trailer made me feel begrudging respect for Adam McKay

add Network to the long list of artworks conservatives apparently did not watch or read in full lmao

"I can't seem to find anything but positive stuff on the Bidens."

Such a good line.

They 100% wanted to use "Bad Guy" in this trailer.

Bjork's "Hunter" would be surprisingly apt

Good week for right wing media accidentally making Biden cool.

The Hunter movie could have been great if Oliver Stone directed it while coked out of his gourd.

Without reading further, I agree with Olsen's thesis!

Right, no half measures for them.

The ironic thing is the perfect casting choice for Hunter would’ve been…Don Jr.

"I wanna know everything on that laptop that can ruin my erection."

"Erection, that is!"

https://i.imgur.com/YKDH4dP.jpg

"You're a chicken! And I'm a chicken hawk!"

The ironic thing is the perfect casting choice for Hunter would’ve been…Don Jr.

Holy shit that Hunter Biden movie looks awesome. I hope it begets a whole bunch of increasingly insane sequels, like the "Universal Soldier" franchise.

As a proud pro-labor President, I am reluctant to override the ratification procedures and the views of those who voted against the agreement. BUT!

I share workers’ concern about the inability to take leave to recover from illness or care for a sick family member. No one should have to choose between their job and their health – or the health of their children. I have pressed legislation and proposals to advance the cause of paid leave in my two years in office, and will continue to do so. Every other developed country in the world has such protections for its workers. 

BUT!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/11/28/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-averting-a-rail-shutdown/

Did Biden have relative freedom (or the benefit of the doubt) in his appointments and executive actions, and did he use that power well? Was he influenced (via his inner circle appointments) by his experience as VP? Or does it say more about his character? That it is better not to have too strong convictions (at the expense of the present or the problem at hand)?

In Dundalk, Joe Biden pays tribute to his cousin Rob Kearney, and his particular role on the memorable day at Soldier Field in Chicago where the Irish rugby team beat “the hell out of the Black and Tans” 👀

— Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly) April 12, 2023

Joe Biden, talking about his distant cousin Rob Kearney being in an Irish rugby team that beat the All Blacks, just said they “beat the hell out of the Black and Tans”.

Irish Twitter is going to have a field day. pic.twitter.com/QOohYaJ9TY

— Barry Malone (@malonebarry) April 12, 2023

Funny how he never mentions that the Bidens were originally from Sussex.

Can you blame him?

He's not really Irish then I guess.

I do like the way his loudly demonstrative ancestery.com tendencies wind up DUP politicians to the point some of them sounded on the verge of a stroke earlier

That’s very funny for sure

He's not really Irish then I guess

I think he's American.

I've had that suspicion, too.

Erin Go Braghndon

https://kslx.com/bono-receives-the-presidential-medal-of-freedom/

Fish in a barrel, I know, also mean, I know, but: I hope he didn't go on about how much he loves "I Got You Babe."