#3 worst actor nomination thread

someone said gabriel byrne and ewan mcgregor

each was nonsense

but we're listening

actor must have had elements of a noteworthy movie career so kyle secor, for instance, aint it

keanu has been too well cast to qualify

fuck you, thats why, these are my rules and if you dont like em -----> door

career must have approached orlando bloom and daniel radcliffe level, or arguably so

Nick moran ain't it

musicians, writers cameoing aint it

and terrible 'actors' with good presence dont qualify, harrison ford most certainly aint it

worst performance I've seen from a good actor could be Michael Caine in Blue Ice

Oof different poll but def worth noting

But the rules continue:

It will take a hardy prosecution to convince that a primarily action/comedy star merits consideration

First actor offered up by the threadstarter, meself:

john malkovich

A man that passes the not-novelty-actual-actor test, certainly passes the fame/fortune career out of it test, has overenunciated and snoozed his way through every fucking role ive ever seen him in, apart from now and then being testy in order to show his range

His best role was as a john malkovich mask

utter shit

Next: kevin spacey

another national treasure whose only apparent talent is to speak slowly

rubbish, fuck off

next: juliette lewis

possibly disqualified under the 'novelty' rule but we couldnt find out what else the drivelous wretch might purport to be

I think Emilia Clarke feels left out.

― chap, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:35 (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Certainly willing to hear the case for this one, yes

travolta

Why don’t you just tell us the 3

Is Michael Caine a good actor tho

gonna throw wahlberg out there (mark not donnie)

Going to make the case for Richard Madden.

Fine in GoT, Robb was always a fucking nonentity in the books to me anyway. And it’s not like he sticks around or is the worst part in that series.

But Bodyguard - fuck me, he started “fine” but got worse as the series went on. We were actually in pieces at some of his efforts in the last episode. Between the writing and his acting, never had a show turn to as shit as rapidly as that one went. I’ve actually been putting off watching Electric Dreams, even though it’s based on Philip K Dick short stories and has Cristobal Tapio de Veer on the soundtrack, because he’s in it.

The two have been covered wins by all means dont read or post if youre only here to piss vinegar, good man

It's been dawning on me lately, and moreso with every subsequent performance I see, that Anthony Hopkins is someone who Americans have come to accept as a good actor because he has a British accent but who is in fact maybe a really bad actor.

Travolta feels like hes been ok/goodish in roles

Possibly roles that relied heavily on one or two innate attributes but yknow im making the case that he cant still therefore be in the bloom/radcliffe gravitational pull

i mean does that make sense

xp iv never heard of ruchard madden, sounds like theres a case tho

looked up a few lists since and i think tbf lena headey is worthy of mention which would make three prominemt GoT mentions already, now youd have to worry if all are acceptable noms (ive never watched it)

and look feel free all to tear apart my noms because i will yours

Wahlberg is very, very funny in several roles which imo means he cant rly be in the running, unless you can imagine bloom or radcliffe ever being so (no u liar u can't)

Feel like caine has been good-to-ok in lots of stuff, comedy to watery eyed drama as well as early arry palmer era where all e ad to do was stand up straight

Would offer children of men as example enough really?

hopkins oof

I mean yeah maybe, the welsh malkovich like, can see it

headey was probably too good in thrones to merit this thread, but sophie turner and kit harington fit like a glove

Im at a loss not having seen it

Sounds like the acting is bad tho

Did they really get bloom/radcliffe fame tho

Its arguable that each also only got the exposure of the one big franchise role then found out, of course (bloom had pirates too but i like to think that was 'found out' from syllable one)

Im open

Its more a thread to rail against noms and make your own strong case anyways

Darts, not chess

Travolta is unacceptable to be nominated in this, Saturday Night Fever and Pulp Fiction alone like. Hugely likeable in lots of other stuff although he’s been in a lot of shit as well.

Laurence Olivier. Neil Diamond was miles better than him in "The Jazz Singer".

Im leery of getting into criticising models-turned-actors (even if they were never actually models, iygwim) but demi moore is particularly bad, right?

Sophie Turner no
Kit Harington yes, easily one of the worst breakout stars

xp gyac getting the spirit of things here imo

Actual lordling kit harington which surely wins him no fuckin points neither

Basically we're looking for people who are to acting what bryan ferry is to singing

Yeah, what of it?

Kit however is married to actual aristocrat Rose Leslie who can act, so idk what his excuse is.

Going to say Martin Freeman, have never enjoyed him in anything. Not one single thing.

Basically we're looking for people who are to acting what bryan ferry is to singing

Freeman has no range but can do one thing quite-to-very well?

As i say the line is a blurry one but if youre to get him in a one liner wont do it i need you to pour your heart into it

If that thing is being a peevish middle-aged man, sure

Jesus tho im haunted by hopkins now, shook

I mean i like him in loads of stuff but now im looking and thinking and tone youre stealing a living arent you you rascal

xp exhibit one, peevish middle aged hobbit

Was Warren Beatty bad? I like a number of movies he's in but almost in spite of his presence. He just kinda always seems like someone who was on set while the movie was being filmed and who was swapped in after the lead fell suddenly ill.

Like a grip who looks vaguely movie star-ish and is good at remembering lines.

my mind keeps returning to nicole kidman

Beatty i considered but i mean presence/looks

Because, if him then redford imo and were getting silly now kinda

Not to defend kidman as brilliant but i mean id list four or five at-least-goods and the bar is orlando bloom

yeah she's not as bad as orlando bloom, but i do think she's gotten a bit worse over time. she's incredibly wooden in both of the prestige hbo series she's done.

The bar

*Taps table*

Ok everybody can i pleae just, everyone?

Thanks

The bar is orlando bloom

Thanks everyone, appreciate your time

Xp is top of the lake 2 one of those? Thought she was lovely and arch in that, and i mean as a show it was horribly bad

If there isn't one already, I feel inclined to start a companion thread for actors who are unquestionably Not Good but who are really compelling to watch. Like I've just recently realized how much I like watching Stallone do his thing. He coasts entirely on charisma while demonstrating zero thespiary skills.

Basically we're looking for people who are to acting what bryan ferry is to singing

But Bryan Ferry does a spectacular imitation of a man who wants to sing!

Stallone is often super

It can stay in here though really its a coffee break room of a thread

xp no i'm thinking of big little lies and the undoing (which was so so bad)

Kidman's fine, you louts.

The obv answer is Michael Fassbender.

Soto we have been waiting for you and other notables

Defend malkovich and hopkins

Hell defend bloom if you like

Nah fassbender is good

Maybe you'd need to be paddy to read him, too subtle

I mean someone said gabriel byrne ffs

I like liev Schreiber has he ever done any acting

He looks like hed be ok at it

hayden christensen, now there's an orlando bloom for you

Yes!

Did he ever really climb to even radcliffe/bloom level tho

Been thinking also that actors that are not very good but do one thing really well cannot be really considered

That saves deniro

I watched the early Katherine Hepburn film Morning Glory a few days ago which I felt was a really instructive depiction of what I consider bad acting inasmuch as she was truly fantastic in the role but she was portraying a would-be actress who everyone thought was a loopy fruitcake until she actually acted and blew everyone away with her performance but I was all like, wait, her in-character is acting of the Jon Lovitz 'ACTING!' variety and actually Not Good. Is that what people actually like? Very self-consciously actorly acting? Academy Award Nominee for Best Actor acting? Sheesh.

I'm going to comb through the list of Academy Award Nominees for Best Actor real quick and find some worthy entries for this thread.

The only non-GoT thing I've seen Sophie Turner in is the X-Men movies and I find it really hard to blame her for those, esp the more recent one.

Hayden Christensen is terrible at acting but I couldn't possibly ding anyone who played the central role in the best movie of all time, Shattered Glass.

Hayden Christensen was decent in Shattered Glass, has Orlando Bloom ever been decent in anything?

I think that's fair comment j/v/c

Youve to literally be awful to have bad movies count against you

Radcliffe, bloom stand out as incredible poor in movie franchises almost defined by a lack of acting prowess on display, iirc turner is one of many merely forgettable given the kind of shite you have to say in superhero movies

OL- changing fashions over time gotta be taken into account tbf

But I mean katherine hepburn in bringing up baby says gtfo

Hopkins is a fun overactor when he gets to fuss and fidget (Howards End).

I thought Hepburn was terrible as a bad actress, actually. She didn't deserve the four Oscars she won -- she deserved them for four other films.

I’m going to controversially suggest that Best Actress especially for a while in the noughties is a more ready source of material, especially the period where it was just big A list actors winning for doing something a bit out of range. Like there’s no way Sandra Bullock should have ever been nominated for an Oscar, let alone winning one, yet here we are.

Denise richards is an honorary model-turned-actress as per above, bullock is good comedically etc at least

Paltrow

Jeremy Renner is pretty bad but I wouldn’t say he’s Orlando Bloom bad.

Gwyneth Paltrow was very good in Sliding Doors, far better than Sandra Bullock in anything I’ve ever seen. No way she deserved an Oscar though.

andie macdowell finally found her level when she demonstrated reasonable competence at swinging her hair and say "i'm worth it"

Underserved oscar nods is a fair jump from orlando "hello i am orlando bloom" /CUT ok orlando one more go bloom

I mean andie is actually model-actress and imo pretty good in four weddings and groundhog day

Er, Bradley Cooper? Kinda feel like that one doesn't even need to be said aloud.

"is she still acting? i hadn't noticed" < niche gag, xp

I can think of one actor I find especially wooden, but he's so revered, I won't name him, and won't confirm or deny. It's hard for me to think of someone where I don't like at least something they've done (I even like the wooden actor in one or two things). For a while I might have said Joan Allen, but that's in part a function of her characters, and she's pretty good in The Contender. Obviously, some of the worst acting ever is from great actors when they pass into self-parody--Pacino, De Niro, etc.

Clem u gotta

If cooper then bale

I think they're both fine tbh

bradley cooper is fine imo

denise richards gets a pass under my newly created "the cast of starship troopers gets a pass" rule

He convinces me that he is an attractive untrustworthy american male in anything ive seen him in

Now, im not even actually sure if bloom is australian or british? but in no way has he ever convinced me of anything when performing it

I couldn’t pick Bradley Cooper out of a police lineup tbh, he’s just one of those actors who could be eight other people

rule #5 cast of starship troopers, showgirls and anything david lynch get career passes

Im now not sure that bale is, in fact, fine

Tho he charmed me in the ford vs ferrari one so

I don't know that I've ever seen Ed Harris in anything and thought 'hey, that was a good acting performance by Ed Harris'.

he was good in the right stuff. so was dennis quaid tho. idk maybe the right stuff was just movie magic.

Was he not just ed harris in the right stuff

Feel like if im putting spacey, malkovich v def in contention then hopkins/harris are at least on verge

its not "have i never enjoyed x" either, spacey works in glengarry, harris is perfect and lemmon is tolerable, and all three are not good actors like

Ed Harris is a good candidate when he's in full-throttle George Kennedy mode (Apollo 13). He's very understated as Howard Hunt in Nixon, though.

mark hamill, and i dont wanna hear about his "yr uncle could do this" voice role as the joker, is rly the prototype here isnt he

shockingly bad, tripping over lines bad

That he looks cool wrinkly and bearded is Not A Defence

Ed Harris was good in The Truman Show cmon

If you already think Mark Hamill is bad, I would direct you to watch him reprising his role from the '90s Flash television series in the current Flash television series. It was a performance that, if he was not a name actor, would likely have gotten him fired and replaced on the spot.

The Truman Show is good and I remember Ed Harris being in The Truman Show but I don't remember Ed Harris being good in The Truman Show.

Agreed re ed harris, who did not strike me as outstanding as "ed harris in a beret" in the truman show

No one's mentioned Scarlett Johansson yet? I guess she's not actively bad, just incredibly bland an non-memorable in pretty much everything she's done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snF-FqfJna4

The problem with Hamill is that I don't remember anyone in the history of good actor discussions asserting that Hamill is a good actor.

May bear study that ed harris simply struggle to escape the sheer gravity of his edharrisness

Scarlett is light and funny in several roles

Can I at least call Kevin Costner one of the most limited actors? His aw-shucks style works in some roles, but as such things go, Jimmy Stewart he's not.

Laurence Olivier. Neil Diamond was miles better than him in "The Jazz Singer".

― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.)

Something was going on with Olivier in the late '70s. It wasn't just The Jazz Singer ("I hef no son!") but also The Boys From Brazil, The Betsy, A Little Romance... he was just really leaning into accents to a distracting effect

The first terrible performance of Harris' career was in The Hours, a film filled to bursting with awful.

The problem with Hamill is that I don't remember anyone in the history of good actor discussions asserting that Hamill is a good actor.

― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch),

In *no way* is this the bar

Costner is under the ford exception imo, certainly not a good actor at all tho

Where the fuck is mark s and his gabriel byrne nom

Jared Leto is the #1 and #2 worst actor.

Nah Scarlett was great in Lost in Translation, a film I am very undecided about actually liking even though I love both the leads in it. I love the way she says “Evelyn Waugh was a man,”. I liked her in The Prestige as well.

If you already think Mark Hamill is bad, I would direct you to watch him reprising his role from the '90s Flash television series in the current Flash television series. It was a performance that, if he was not a name actor, would likely have gotten him fired and replaced on the spot.

mark hamill was good in that one episode of what we do in the shadows

Jared Leto is the #1 and #2 worst actor.

― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.),

A certain kind of bad, shoots for cage but far too bland, yeah but idk dont feel hes actually notably bad besides tbh

Which opinion would hopefully annoy him

Now

I love michael keaton

And think hes great in a few roles

But hes pretty bad

Gabriel Byrne is a blue-eyed nothing, mark s otm

You know what might make Mark Hamill less bad? If his every acting role didn't at some point involve an on-screen allusion to Star Wars (and yes, I know that it's probably as much the writers' fault, but he does presumably have a foot he can put down).

Even his WWDITS role (which wasn't bad, inasmuch as I didn't even realize at first that it was him) did this!

Now

I love michael keaton

And think hes great in a few roles

But hes pretty bad

― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Tuesday, February 2, 2021 10:23 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is absolute nonsense. Please leave.

Mark Hamill is frequently enjoyable in roles where attempting good acting would be shockingly gauche - Hopkins as Lector / Van Helsing would be a good comparison.

Byrne in millers crossing is as good as any lead male movie performance since

This is absolute nonsense. Please leave.

― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 16:26 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

Sir i salute yr keeping me honest itt

I don't know that I have strong thoughts about Byrne in general (partly because...I can't remember a single one of his other movies atm) but he is quite good in Miller's Crossing.

Like I don't know that I would stump hard for Keaton as an actor qua actor, I don't know how much range he has really, but he is almost always a delight to watch and not infrequently the best element of movies he's in.

And i love him

But when

Wait a sec

Mainly its actually when hes michael keaton, i realise

Interviews and such

Makes my skin crawl, profoundly uncomfortable to watch

I don't know that unconsciously quirky weirdoes can really qualify for 'worst actor' as their unconscious weirdo quirks will always carry them over the hurdle.

Yes i think what we are distinctly seeking here are lack-of-character actors

Is Crispin Glover a good actor? Probably not. But he can never be a bad actor.

I think costner is very valid offering but he's such languid beefcake srs courtroom detective perfection that it alone carries him

He can look away, amused, in a scene where someone says a line of dialogue to make him do so

Bloom? Never.

I will rep for Hammill as a voice actor. That's where he has found his niche for a long time now and probably would have stayed there if not for JJ Abrams.

He's corny as hell in The Flash, but so is everyone on it. I mean, this is a show where my superhero loving 9 year-old even gave up on it after three and a half seasons because it was "too cheesy and dumb".

You're right, I should never have Exhibit A-ed any CW DC show as they're all terrible and dumb even though I keep watching them for god knows what reason.

Something was going on with Olivier in the late '70s. It wasn't just The Jazz Singer ("I hef no son!") but also The Boys From Brazil, The Betsy, A Little Romance... he was just really leaning into accents to a distracting effect

I think he was a prize ham anyway, I dislike English stage acting. Richard III, there's a weird distracting accent for you.

Olivier's fine in Carrie (not a ham) and The Entertainer (a ham on wry).

Bootlegs exist, thats what richard iii sounded like

He can look away, amused, in a scene where someone says a line of dialogue to make him do so

Bloom? Never.

― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Tuesday, February 2, 2021 4:34 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

i love this as the qualifying bar

You're right, I should never have Exhibit A-ed any CW DC show as they're all terrible and dumb even though I keep watching them for god knows what reason.

Ha, we had never watched any of them but thought they might make for a decent show to binge with our son. The first few seasons of The Flash were fine, but then it got dumb and Arrow was a little too dark for him.

xp As an example with costner in mind!

Its an art, this, not a séance

Agree re glover, who is a fine, fine presence and possibly even actor on the cage scale

We are, as stated, looking for the bryan ferry of actors, not the dylan/van morrison of actors

olivier in r3 is about as good as the material deserves

imo the “tru acting” / “playing urself” dichotomy is being taken too seriously itt. people who can’t act can’t play themselves

Yep imo

Bloom/ratface tho?

Could never

i support the nomination of kit harrington. he's absolutely terrible in silent hill 3d: revelation, a movie i like bc it is kind of terrible but he's very bad in it still

ryan o neill, gene kelly, jude law, benedict cumberbatch

I've been neck-deep in Depression-era film over the past half a year or so and am struggling to think of anyone from that era who has been unjustly feted, as I've been pleasantly surprised that the big names have really lived up to their rep. W.C. Fields is maybe kinda terrible? I don't know if he really qualifies though because he's just a walking vaudeville act.

Oh, Lon Chaney Jr. was the worst. Nepotism run rampant, that.

Sorry to stir up so much controversy but it must be done.

Ryan o neill yes

The rest, not close tbh

Kelly an awful actor but imo clearly called out at the onset the "special function" case

Yeah I'm not wild about Astaire's acting but that's not necessarily what he was there to do.

xp im sorry i thought this was a thread

gene kelly

remind me post-COVID never to meet up with any of you to watch movies

You say that like that’s a bad thing

Jude Law is good in tons of things

i saw him i tate modern once and that was the only time he was convincing

He was fun in the late '90s when he played bitches.

jude law was born to play the role of lenny belardo aka the young pope.

Lol I saw him in the Whitney once

I've been neck-deep in Depression-era film over the past half a year or so and am struggling to think of anyone from that era who has been unjustly feted, as I've been pleasantly surprised that the big names have really lived up to their rep. W.C. Fields is maybe kinda terrible? I don't know if he really qualifies though because he's just a walking vaudeville act.

Not Depression-era, but I saw "Double Indemnity" recently and there's some terrible acting in that - not by the three leads I hasten to add.

is there a "what makes acting good or bad iyo?" thread? I often find these discussions a little bewildering in terms of shared assumptions / frames of analysis

Can we nominate for particular subcategories of acting? There were a few scenes in that recent Kidman/Grant HBO thing (which was terrible) wherein Hugh Grant (who I'd say generally is okay and not terrible) was crying and it was maybe the worst and most embarrassing cry acting I've ever seen, really a spectacle. It was worse cry acting than I could have done. So I nominate him for worst cry actor on that basis.

Natalie Portman. Like how is it possible to be the worst actor next to a newbie Chris Hemsworth in an MCU movie? And in everything else?

worst cry acting is Claire Danes, no contest

xp
^that level of specificity makes more sense to me, since the exact failure to convince can be pinpointed

anyway sorry to be chin-stroking on the worst actor thread

there are no bad actors, there's just poor casting, bad writing and bad direction

Yes please break things down for those of us who are merely spectating the thread, permanently unable to develop insights into visual media in any way

Also gyac that username is incredible

worst cry acting is Claire Danes, no contest

― Roz, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:10 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is a really odd thing 2 say

is there a "what makes acting good or bad iyo?" thread? I often find these discussions a little bewildering in terms of shared assumptions / frames of analysis

― rob, Tuesday, February 2, 2021 11:08 AM (thirty seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

This has always been a little confounding to me, too. I'm often like 'wait, he/she is supposed to be good? and he/she is supposed to be bad?'. The clearest criteria I can think of for good acting is if you see enough of a particular actor being just a regular everyday human (or as close as actors ever get to that state) and then see that actor portraying a convincingly different person in a given project. Or just like Isabelle Adjani in Possession where I'm like 'you are channeling something from another world rn, holy shit'.

Bad acting is like 'I don't enjoy watching you, please get off my screen'.

no there are definitely bad actors, jude law for instance

acting is v interesting and the criteria for being good are contextual

jude law doesn't qualify for me. his attempt at a long island accent in vox lux is too entertaining

as with most things, driving etc.

xpost sorry old tumblr meme https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2014/09/claire-danes-homeland-cry-face

Natalie Portman is a very good nomination for this thread. She generally reaches 'third-best actor in a high school production of Our Town' levels of acting performance.

Jude Law is hot

I think if Uncut Gems has taught me anything it's that acting is literally easy and anyone can do it if they're directed to just say lines and be themselves

(on film anyway, on stage you have to actually act)

jude law is good sometimes, usually in bad or forgettable movies though

ive been in a couple movies and can confirm acting is easy

I think the worst actor is Tom Hanks

yeah I was going to mention that seeing films with "untrained" actors brings me close to Simon's "no bad acting" take

I also think no actor has "range" in any meaningful way

"The Terminal" fuck off

"Forrest Gump" a war crime

All shapes and sizes of Jake Gyllenhaal leave me cold.

acting is easy otm i still think i should've gone into it if it didn't require knowing other actors

I watched Catch Me If You Can for the first time ever last weekend and, holy shit, Hanks has one of the worst film accents I've ever heard.

Sorry guys got a work call

Rob, pls pls contribute its a thread of opinions obv

Plax ugh no terrible opinion no more out of u ugh

Portman is an *excellent* nomination, yes

lol ok I'll try to think of an actor I truly dislike

"The Ladykillers" (2004) are you kidding me

The key thing to remember here is that the rules which i made up are the rules, but ~also~ that they are made up

Imagine asking natalie portman to hold those thoughts in her v pretty head?

Thats ACTING BABY

acting is easy otm i still think i should've gone into it if it didn't require knowing other actors

I like how it's ambiguous here whether the problem is that actors are not accessible to you or that you really just don't want to have to associate with them (or both)

I thought I might get some good ideas from this list and the actors featured made me laugh for like a full thirty seconds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_actors

Spoiler: Stan Lee is #1.

Now im actually not ilxing this evening, pls pls pls nominate only correct take from now on in this perfect thread

Tom Hanks is a toughie inasmuch as he's been pretty good in about half the stuff he's been in and like grotesquely terrible in a lot of other stuff he's been in.

the only actor off the top of my head who has never ever worked for me in anything I've seen is paz de la heurta, and I can absolutely imagine her being great in the right role

i will never be quiet

yes tom hanks is truly terrible and should be killed immediately jude law is not and never will be 'hot'

Mods

these are both empirically demonstrable

I like how it's ambiguous here whether the problem is that actors are not accessible to you or that you really just don't want to have to associate with them (or both)

― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, February 2, 2021 10:22 AM (thirty-nine seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol however if you know i live in nyc... you know which one it is

once worked with a guy who acted on the side. friendly exterior, totally empty sociopath within

oh yeah actors are weird and have bad personal style in my experience

actors also somehow more self-involved over their meager achievements than poets even, heads so far up their asses that they're like mobius strips of malignant narcissism, incredible

sorry to any actors on ilx i am sure you are the exception that proves the rule

jude law is fucking hot, silby otm

"mobius strips of malignant narcissism" brad marry me

as the third best actor in a recent production of our town i would like to extend critical support to natalie portman

I haven't seen him in a while but I know a guy who's an actor and, at various times, has been a main character in a couple of long running UK TV shows and he's a pretty down-to-earth bloke, not in the least precious.

Stoke Newington and environs is full of actors though.

i bet he wears weird ugly chinos tho

harrison ford seems pretty down to earth, especially as a pilot

or like jeans that bunch at the shins with hightops

soap actors and the like are probably (in general) the best adjusted professional actors, punch in punch out

I’ve never fancied Jude Law but he’s been great in at least six things and is well above the Bloom bar

burt lancaster

due respect to ILX but I refuse to call that guy anything but "orblando gloom" (thank you paul schneider)

(xp lol)

I don’t think MCU movies should be considered in this thread mostly because i don’t consider them movies

def laurence olivier

burt lancaster is funny and good in Local Hero

ryan o neill is the only person i've posted who has ever been good in anything

Even excluding the MCU, I’ve seen at least 70% of all Portman movies and she’s bad in all of them, whereas I can’t say the same about Hanks or Jude Law or ScarJo.

oic you're doing a bit xp

also it’s ornaldo bloomps surely

Will fight anyone trying it about Natalie Portman

The bar is Bloom

The bar is Bloom

ryan o neill is the only person i've posted who has ever been good in anything

― plax (ico), Tuesday, February 2, 2021 11:37 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I assume you're referring to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KyBdPeKHg

Burt Lancaster was terrible in the wrong movie, as usual, but good and often great in a good one.

There. I summed up the thread.

do you actually have to have seen them in anything? if not, I nominate Eddie Redmayne

yes Eddie Redmayne is a horrible actor and The Danish Girl is in the running for most execrable moviewatching experience

Burt Lancaster was great. You know who sucked? Kirk Douglas.

Beautiful Girls - great
Closer - great
V for Vendetta - terrible accent, great otherwise
Black Swan - ott but great

Gonna nominate Shia LaBeouf and Andrew Garfield.

do you actually have to have seen them in anything? if not, I nominate Eddie Redmayne

oh lol I have seen Jupiter Ascending, so that's a legit opinion despite my remembering literally nothing of his performance

yeah Eddie Redmayne’s a great nomination

Beautiful Girls - great
Closer - great
V for Vendetta - terrible accent, great otherwise
Black Swan - ott but great

― wangdalf the blight (gyac)

can't wait for you to watch the Jackie O movie

like, I knew Chicago 7 was the Titanic as soon as I saw him in the cast.

Beautiful Girls - great
Closer - great
V for Vendetta - terrible accent, great otherwise
Black Swan - ott but great

― wangdalf the blight (gyac)

can't wait for you to watch the Jackie O movie

Also remember that period when Kate Beckinsale was seemingly cast in everything? Can’t remember a single one of her performances... just a complete non-entity. Ditto Eric Bana.

As long as it’s not with you!
― wangdalf the blight (gyac

having Negronis at the bar with the critic lady from Birdman

oh lol I have seen Jupiter Ascending, so that's a legit opinion despite my remembering literally nothing of his performance

Also remember that period when Kate Beckinsale was seemingly cast in everything? Can’t remember a single one of her performances... just a complete non-entity. Ditto Eric Bana.

― Roz

Have you seen Love and Friendship?

Also remember that period when Kate Beckinsale was seemingly cast in everything? Can’t remember a single one of her performances... just a complete non-entity. Ditto Eric Bana.

xp
lmao it is unfortunately coming back to me now, gdi

no had completely stopped watching anything with her in it after I fell asleep 20 mins into that vampire movie she was in

xp to alfred

There's a difference between a bad actor and a lazy actor, imo, and Harrison Ford is definitely a lazy actor (to the point of probably actually being baked 90% of the time). There was a period when he tried, but my theory has always been that when he didn't get any awards buzz for The Mosquito Coast, he decided he officially couldn't be arsed anymore and just settled for doing the smirk and the clawhand for the rest of his career.

Hopkins and Caine and Pacino and all those lads will definitely take major advantage of an inexperienced director to ham it up and go their own way, but they're all great when they're pulled into line by the right people, I think. They just haven't met the right people in a long time.

Beckinsale is good in that whit stillman movie

that's the one I cited

ryan o neill was good in barry lyndon

Burt Lancaster was great. You know who sucked? Kirk Douglas.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:45 (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

agree that kirk douglas is also pretty bad

Gonna nominate Shia LaBeouf and Andrew Garfield.

― Darin, Tuesday, February 2, 2021 9:45 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

weird hill to die on because he's an abusive POS but shia labeouf is a good actor imo

despite my lackluster performances elsewhere, I was good in your mom

weird hill to die on because he's an abusive POS but shia labeouf is a good actor imo

this is how I feel about james franco

ive only seen andrew garfield in a p bad version of angels in america and he was super terrible like the worst thing

it was so boring all the way through

TheBeef is terrific in Pieces of a Woman.

Jared Leto. Always seems to be "performing"

john c reilly

Jared Leto. Always seems to be "performing"

― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Tuesday, February 2, 2021 9:59 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh yeah, this is a good one.

In Blade Runner 2049 I would describe his performance as "rehearsing a monologue for an audition with other people in the scene feeling neglected"

john c reilly

― plax (ico), Tuesday, February 2, 2021 12:01 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is no place for trolling.

i am simply responding to the theme of the thread

i argue that redmayne is ONLY good in jupiter ascending

i guess if you think 'doing a funny voice sometimes' is acting

john c reilly just kindof insinuates that he was in steppenwolf i think

Xpost Which would make Forrest Whitaker the best actor ever

I'll give you a pass if you want to challenge John C. Reilly as a dramatic actor, I don't have much skin in that game, but he's unimpeachable as a comic actor.

Ah no. He’s so great in Magnolia.

Xpost He wasn't bad in We Need to Talk About Kevin, but he really broadstroked the character compared to how his personality was portrayed in the book

But Ezra Klein was outright miscast so that whole movie whiffed

lol ezra klein

magnolia is awful but i dont remember him being in it

Ben Whishaw, except for Paddingtons

willowy boys I enjoy looking at cannot be called bad actors imo

Catching up...Also think Byrne is amazing in Miller's Crossing; Kirk Douglas, same for Paths of Glory. Again, it's hard for me to think of anyone--within reason; I don't mean Pauly Shore-level--where I don't like at least one performance.

Also think Reilly is excellent in Magnolia.

I'm messing up this thread's whole concept.

Mike Myers
Matt Dillon
Matthew Fox

Hey pal the worst M-actor thread is thataway!

Kirk Douglas makes a terrific baddie in Out of the Past.

And an excellent hapless one in The Strange Love of Martha Ivers.

Agree that Beckinsale is a nonentity. She's good in the Stillman movie, but I think of that as a tribute to Stillman, because Chloe Sevigny is also good in it and she's one of the worst, most useless actresses on Earth.

I mentioned this on Twitter the other day - I think Pacino's brain broke sometime around the making of Cruising; he was great before that, and great in it, but he's been a shouty self-parody pretty much ever since.

John C. Riley was also ace in Polanski's Carnage, which was a pretty weird film.

The kid from Fright Night and 976-EVIL who went on to make porno films.

Franklin from The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Sammy Petrillo.

I mentioned this on Twitter the other day - I think Pacino's brain broke sometime around the making of Cruising; he was great before that, and great in it, but he's been a shouty self-parody pretty much ever since.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, February 2, 2021 11:25 AM (three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

"because she's got a GREAT ASS" classic tho

I thought Keira Knightley was absolutely appalling in Cronenberg's A Dangerous Method.

Bury me with his Dunkacino clip

Chloe Sevigny is also good in it and she's one of the worst, most useless actresses on Earth.

I'm sorry what

Keira Knightley is almost approaching Bloom levels for me.

The 2 of them together in pirates is something special alright

Kirk Douglas makes a terrific baddie in Out of the Past.

Certainly does.

Keira Knightley is hopeless.

Knightley's own mother couldn't tell her and Portman apart on the set of The Phantom Menace. Which perhaps says something.

that one was heavily, heavily made up?

Redmayne yes

Knightley absolutely

Leto noted previously

None of the rest are close i dont think tbh

Garfield better than good in red riding and beckinsale good in the austen thing

Beckinsale also funny in person, this is u&k

Knightley, redmayne utterly charmless vacuums in person, nervy nothings like radcliffe

Dunno bout bloom but feel safe presuming

He's obviously not a "bad actor", but when I saw Christopher Plummer as Lear at Stratford, I was mortified when he came out to do the mad scene on the heath. It was so half-hearted, his whole attitude seemed to be, "c'mon, you don't expect me to actually act crazy?!? I'm Christopher Plummer!"

My rules may seem strict but tbf theyre saving madonna from certain entry

He's obviously not a "bad actor", but when I saw Christopher Plummer as Lear at Stratford, I was mortified when he came out to do the mad scene on the heath. It was so half-hearted, his whole attitude seemed to be, "c'mon, you don't expect me to actually act crazy?!? I'm Christopher Plummer!"

lol not gonna say ~tastefulness~ is the worst trap in shakespeare but it might be the hardest to learn to avoid

actor must have had elements of a noteworthy movie career so kyle secor, for instance, aint it

trying to figure out what Kyle Secor did to be singled out like this.

just "hardest to avoid" i should say; don't mean that christopher plummer literally doesn't know you can underplay xp

thought Christopher Plummer was really moving in Beginners, don't remember him in anything else

Kirk Douglas makes a terrific baddie in Out of the Past.

this is one of my fave villain performances ever. better shortness than richie aprile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-wIW47kes8

i happen to know someone 👀 who is in the unfortunate position where they absolutely detest rachel weisz but like the films of yorgios lanthimos

i literally can't think of anybody btw (anybody who counts; i thought of james corden). suspect myself of thinking even ineptitude only awaits a context.

someone who keeps giving performances other people find serviceable and i do not is karl urban.

i happen to know someone 👀 who is in the unfortunate position where they absolutely detest rachel weisz

― imago, Tuesday, February 2, 2021 4:24 PM (twenty-two minutes ago)

o_O

really disliked The Deep Blue Sea and her and everyone else in it, it almost put me off of her, but have liked her otherwise

Had to Google that because I was thinking "The movie with the superintelligent sharks and LL Cool J? I don't remember Rachel Weisz in that..."

Karl Urban's only good performance was Dredd

I've been neck-deep in Depression-era film over the past half a year or so and am struggling to think of anyone from that era who has been unjustly feted, as I've been pleasantly surprised that the big names have really lived up to their rep. W.C. Fields is maybe kinda terrible? I don't know if he really qualifies though because he's just a walking vaudeville act.

Helen Hayes may or may not have been a great stage actor. But I've never seen a film performance of hers that lived up to the legend. Superficial impressions of Lillian Gish ≠ good acting.

Lionel Barrymore took the Best Actor Oscar for A Free Soul (1931). "Scenery chewing" barely begins to describe his performance.

Lillian Gish was great in Night of the Hunter; I don't think I've actually seen her in anything earlier.

Just jumping in way back to defend Stallone, Cop Land is a better performance than many "great actors" have on the books, just rewatched First Blood, Rambo vs Dennehy is pulp heaven

Cop Land is clearly Stallone bothering to try, and then never bothering again, though

like Travolta is great in about six films across three calendar decades, and rarely bearable otherwise

(anybody who counts; i thought of james corden)

he is irritatingly far less bad at acting than at any of his other career bowstrings

Lionel Barrymore's alright. He's not a great actor (the Barrymore pedigree may be overstated a touch) but he's a charming weirdo in most of what I've seen him in (eg Tod Browning's The Devil Doll, wherein he plays a cross-dressing rogue who shrinks his nemeses down to doll size).

I actually think Ed Harris type actors are the best, they know what they do and if you cast them in that kind of role they show up and do it

Range is the most overrated thing in acting

FTR, I was by no means nominating Stallone for worst actor upthread. I just watched all the Rockys and realized, actual acting ability aside, I think I love him.

Oh whoops just realized I misread the comment upthread & thought it was actually about Lillian Gish. Never mind.

agree that most actors don't have that much range. they are always themselves for the most part, you either like them or not

Yes, I have no problem with actors who are mostly the same in every role.

John C. Reilly was in Step Brothers for chrissakes show some respect

I feel like this thread is just gonna end up naming every actor

Rami Malek and Jared Leto by comparison in scenes with Denzel

man Remi Malek in The Little Things is as weird and awkward and bad a performance as I've seen

Maybe we need a thread for actors who actually live up to the hype. Keepin it posi and irie in 2021

Natalie Portman is the name in blinding lights. But I'd also like to nod to Diane Keaton. Each has the power to make me dive for the remote.

I was actually thinking about nomming Malek for a future spot itt, particularly since he's already won an Oscar and is certain to make us all suffer for it

Stallone was very good in First Blood. I've never seen Cop Land.

this is not an entirely serious suggestion but

billy crudup

Cop Land probably should have had a moment this past summer but didn't happen

Diane Keaton has always been delightful and kind of goofy, I can't think of her as a bad actor

diane keaton is extremely bad as kay imo but yeah i mostly like her. i saw most of baby boom the other day like lol why am i not turning this off

(kay is not a rewarding role)

It's not, no. She has a couple of nice moments early on, then she's a scold for the rest of the film. She's great in Looking for Mr. Goodbar, which I just watched the other night.

man Remi Malek in The Little Things is as weird and awkward and bad a performance as I've seen

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, February 2, 2021 8:40 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ha yes wtf was going on there

distractingly weird

Nicole Kidman was so great in To Die For that I'll never say a bad word about her
Remi Malek was fine in Mr Robot
Ed Harris I thought was bad, Truman Show included, but I liked him in Westworld
Eddie Redmayne/Andrew Garfield/Ben Wishaw are all the same gay-baiting English nothing, they aren't hired to act, they're hired to look good before they hit their expiry dates
Natalie Portman is amazing what is wrong with you
Keanu Reeves, like Tom Cruise, serves a function
Joan Allen is a terrible, terrible actress, but she's been acting badly in so many good films and never ruining them, so...

I'm pretty sure Gary Oldman is bad, he sucks in Luc Besson movies, I didn't like him as Smiley, I hated him as Commish Gordon
Gabriel Byrne fucking sucks in every movie he's ever been in, I'm glad he died in Hereditary, also he's the spitting image of my dad
I have had two fights because I think Emma Stone is total garbage (although she was charming in Superbad)
I knew Jared Leto was trash even at age 15 when everybody else was crushing on Catalano and I was rooting for Brian Krakow and he still is terrible, he's the Ariel Pink of acting
and afaic the most "ugh why is she in this" actor I can think of is unfortunately Rosario Dawson

paul giamatti let's dial it down about eight notches, we get it, you are really enjoying every role

t/s: acting vs emoting

I'm pretty sure Gary Oldman is bad, he sucks in Luc Besson movies, I didn't like him as Smiley, I hated him as Commish Gordon

i have done a lot of photographic work and these pictures were made by somebody else

great post fgti

I like that David Lynch tried to get the most stilted and unnatural performances out of his actors for Twin Peaks: The Return

I have a question and it is: is John Turturro bad? I hate his performances in everything but I love pretty-much everything he's been in, Barton Fink my favourite Coen movie, The Night Of was awesome, etc.

thought he was really good in Gloria Bell

Lynch's point of view makes me rethink the whole actor thing

Haven't seen Gloria Bell but Turturro/Moore does sound like a good romantic pairing tbh

I like actors too much for this thread.

I think Turturro is excellent in Jungle Fever and--the character is loathsome--Miller's Crossing. I like him in Rounders and Do the Right Thing, too.

I like Oldman in JFK, Dracula, and The Contender. Not so much Mank.

Lynch's point of view makes me rethink the whole actor thing

all you need is love imo

I knew Jared Leto was trash even at age 15 when everybody else was crushing on Catalano and I was rooting for Brian Krakow and he still is terrible

Lynch's POV only maintains because he has the skill as a director to ply a compelling performance out of even the worst actor. In other hands, much of Lynch's lesser players would flop hard.

The

Bar

Is

Bloom

Ffs

xxxp Krakow (the character) is pretty yuck in retrospect

I remember seeing Devon [something or other] (Brian Krakow) was starring in an erotic thriller after he decided to be taken seriously, and I literally remembered that fact a few years later when I saw Rupert Grint do the exact same thing

any good director can ply a compelling performance out of an actor with limited skill-sets, whether it's the stage, or film. it's way less impressive with film because the medium inherently relies less on individual performances to carry the entire thing (though obviously that does still happen in droves).

Tho im glad its a chatty thread like

this forest is very old.

any good director can ply a compelling performance out of an actor with limited skill-sets, whether it's the stage, or film

Maybe--I don't know. There are so many bad performances in films by good directors, though. (Start with Hitchcock and De Palma.) Did they give up, run out of time, or just not care?

wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.

any director can do it....but obviously not all of them do. either they have a weird appreciation for some bad performances, or they just said "ehh, the rest of the film is good and we're behind schedule"

xxxp Krakow (the character) is pretty yuck in retrospect

Oh yeah, in hindsight I cringe at how much I identified with his plight at the time.

And, neanderthal most recently, spells out the goal

Find the actors who have achieved fame and riches for whom it remains false

A quest

None of the names since can be srs suggestions, i beseech yis

Gabriel Byrne, whose being offered as a contender actually prompted this thread, and for the third time, has not been bettered in a lead role vs his turn in millers crossing

Steven segal doesn't count because the "not considered an actor" thing

Stallone has charmed and delivered in many roles, and has been good in several, excellent in at least two (copland, creed- id argue a few of the rockys at least tho!)

Tbh "terrible performances in good movies/for good directors" is also an interesting discussion imo

Meryl Streep

Aw would you not!

My assumption is that 98% of actors are professionals who are doing their best to follow the director's instructions. Just as I don't think I've gone to see a film because a certain actor was in, I can't recall any film that I thought was ruined by bad acting (OK, maybe Brando in The Missouri Breaks).

I do not mean that as a hot take, I just hate when she comes on screen. Every role she plays is MERYL STREEP AS ______.

Ben Kingsley, after his 16th take in Shutter Island: "Is that better, Marty? I think I nailed it that time."

Scorsese: "Ah, fuck it, do whatever you want."

Long Black Line was her best role imo

xpost?

My assumption is that 98% of actors are professionals who are doing their best to follow the director's instructions.

Oh you know someone more recent who's been celebrated way out of proportion to her ability is Shailene Woodley. I just dngi.

But the bar is radcliffe, bloom, knightley

Tisnt "plays the role as themselves" its "cannot perform a role at all"

we're talking bumping into the camera level here

eomer is less fun to watch than legolas. eomer never took down an elephant thing.

Im about giving up mind you

Karl urban p good as bournemeat and bones imo

Fair, darragh. In which case, I nominate Orson Welles, whose greatest accomplishment was making himself seem competent as an actor.

this would be a lot easier if someone would make it clear what the bar is

it was bones that made me feel like i was actually tripping. good as dredd tho yes. "only good as dredd" is presumably the platonic counterargument to "range is fake"

Kevin Costner

Lookit ye will have yere fun and im wise enough to know when a party is best left tire itself out

Have you seen Big Little Lies, OL? I thought Woodley was good in that.

OK Portman << Knightley

Imagine radcliffe in any role/performance offered and know in your bones you are a liar tho

I think Ryan Phillipe is a pretty terrible actor but I'm not sure who would disagree with that too strongly and I'm also unsure of who but me is even thinking of Ryan Phillipe in 2021.

Michael Cera

and Spacey is execrable but we knew that

xxpost take yr fantasies to #twothread

I nominate Orson Welles, whose greatest accomplishment was making himself seem competent as an actor.

lol it's true that other directors deploy him as a prop. (even reed?)

still tho no.

i like in gosford park when ryan phillipe says

would that be hot milk... or cold

Have you seen _Big Little Lies_, OL? I thought Woodley was good in that.

deems, I think you're going too hard on Radcliffe inasmuch as he is a child actor who is now an adult, so on that front he's actually doing okay for himself, he may not be any competition for the classically-trained crew but let him have his fun if it keeps him off the drugs I say

Radcliffe as black swan

Just sitting there, blinking owlpotterishly, like his mother first demanded when he was 8 and scared and cameras flashing and he just wanted to please everyone

Poor fucker, soul half-formed, praised for looking about right while the same ghoul who feasted on m culkins innocence descended upon him with a script by jk fuckin rowling, sorry kid this is your life now

I mean imagine the deserted wreck of a human thus formed in black swan

Ive no idea where bloom emerged from. The pinch of a demon through the cloth of a darker fucking universe than this, and we let it spawn with katy perry and on the cusp of this squall of horror ive smart fuckers slagging off meryl streep well tear it all down i say ill go smiling if even one of youse animals is dragged with me meryl streep honest to christ

Spacey Hopkins malkovich all not quite but def in the second circle, possibly with harris

Oof phillippe is really, really bad, good shout furst new contender since knightley imo

xpost ah, it's such a treat to have u back

there are no worst actors, it's who you like or not

Not so

I love michael palin, but hes a horrible mugger in his (even half) dramatic efforts

Michael Cera

Yes OL feel the energy

Costner gets a pass for Bull Durham

And Tin Cup tbh

I just meant that I don't think actors are to blame for what seem like bad performances, but this obviously isn't the thread to argue that.

Philippe and Bloom it's like.. they look like Nick Carters of course they're going to get cast

Please explain instead to me Jonathan Pryce

Does Richard Gere count as an actor? He seems like someone who just shows up and plays Richard Gere and then later they dub over any instances where he refers to himself on camera as Richard Gere.

I'm not sure Cameron Diaz is or ever was good.

Again, my references are rarely going to be contemporary. I'm scrolling backwards through my watched films on Letterboxd and it took me like a handful of finger flicks to get to the '90s.

xpost Tin Cup is great, his total self destruction in the tournament at the end is such a great scene, totally turns the sports movie cliche on its head

He gets by as beefcake but between you and me hes running it damned close

But the test- imagine radcliffe in his pretty woman role

Eesh

David Arquette has somehow received top billing in a few films. Meditate on that for a moment.

Keira knightley could never for a moment pull something about mary, Charlie's angels, the mask, hell even knight and day is a performance of fun and swagger

Is david arquette at the success level required

Would say nowhere near

No Gere is amazing, criminally underused leading man
Also continues to get more bangable even at 71

I felt like I'm the only person whose mom inexplicably had Tin Cup on VHS and I watched it at least four times, it's great

Rene Russo is also underused I don't know why she wasn't cast more

this obviously isn't the thread to argue that.

― Halfway there but for you,

Argue away!

Pryce is several cuts above malkovich or spacey fgti

jonathan pryce does well-calibrated hamming as MR. DARK and more famously i am fond of the delivery "i am not counting it."

cameron diaz is a star.

really liked Richard Gere in Altman's Dr. T & the Women

Ben Affleck. He is not good. He's been in good things but he himself is not good. At acting, I mean.

cameron diaz is the highlight of vanilla sky, for that alone etc.

Costner is any sports turn, untouchables jfk the one recently with woody open range yadda yadda yadda easy charisma is already so far ahead of remember now the kid who cannot convincingly stand still (srsy watch radcliffe sometime its horrible tbh)

Love vanilla sky no questions thks

OL and I are on a similar wavelength bc Richard Gere just popped into my head. Same for Philippe. I think when I saw this thread my brain immediately went to any actor involved in the Haggis “Crash”. Sorry, Ludacris.

I'm actually more surprised as I scroll by how many actors pass muster with me, tbrr.

casper van dien

Forgot Vanilla Sky, also she's very game in There's Something About Mary. Okay, Diaz rescinded.

Affleck can sit and eat while a better actor speaks lines of dialogue if you asked affleck be i need you to just relax a bit can we go again affleck would try to do that can you imagine how radcliffe would react if asked to relax there is no way it could work

the problem I'm having is we're kinda like, excluding people who had a movie in which they were effective once and , well even the shittiest actors can get a birdie on the fairway every once in a while

Van dien never even got to paul walker fame let alone orlando bloom fame but not an awful shout tbh

Trying to imagine Radcliffe in any Affleck role is killing me rn. O'Bannion!

the problem I'm having is we're kinda like, excluding people who had a movie in which they were effective once and , well even the shittiest actors can get a birdie on the fairway every once in a while

― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 03:14 (thirty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

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The

Ones

In

Question

Cmon man thats the whole point

Is Pryce, though? I just assumed (given his involvement in Brazil) that he must have a Monty Python pass that I didn't know about but he stage-acts through every film he's in and it's abominable to watch (except Glengarry Glen Ross, bc everybody was stage-acting; look, Spacey and Pryce are both swanning all over their film sets in equal measure.)

As for Malkovich, I don't give a fuck about him except that he was a key figure in some excellent Spalding Gray monologues and afaic, a feature in a Spalding Gray monologue is as good as a Lynch/Verhoeven gig insofar as safe words are concerned

remember now the kid who cannot convincingly stand still (srsy watch radcliffe sometime its horrible tbh)

lol ♥️♥️♥️♥️ dmac

Like i think guy pearce is terrible and getting worse every day, but see for instance the scene where he blasts up the flat in la confidential and he looks vaguely shocked afterwards

Guarantee you cannot imagine radcliffe nor bloom reaching that incredible emotional depth

And id say getting Pearce to that point was like a breech birth tbh

Okay I loved Chris Pratt on Parks and Rec but...I think he might have been terrible in everything else. Including real life, apparently.

fgti i am not here to dictate over my excellent ilx colleagues in this endeavour i am convinced of yr case and pryce is hereby declared no better than malkovich/spacey gavel next

Pratt has charm and goofiness in gotg bloom in that role would dry out the tapeheads

Erm...how do we feel about Julia Roberts?

Well, regardless of your kind admission, I've always fucking hated Guy Pearce

career-defining performance in Hook

Srsly btw garfield is v good in red riding i was surprised too

he actually was!

Julia Roberts in Erin Brockovich did the same thing Nicole Kidman did with To Die For

She did a good job

Julia roberts is brilliant in

America's sweethearts

Yeah look there it is

don't think we should think of actors as real people

deems how do we have the same taste in film

Youll note i cannot stand over these people enjoying happy successful lives based on their exploits, im not saying that at all

Some of them are v pretty tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_-gwjRBfqg

I vaguely recall Pryce putting on a good show for that Bond film he was in

I reiterate that Gabriel Byrne is trash despite his involvement in an excellent Coen movie and add Liam Neeson to the mix

I love Irish people I only read Irish books and drink Irish whiskey and beer but the idea of seeing Neeson opposite Byrne in Godot is the hell I wish upon my most hated enemies

Brad because you have a magic eye my friend ❤️

Roberts has genuine charm

...Eric of course


....jk I like Julia Roberts

fgti we dont hold it against you as soon as radcliffe is humanely put to sleep and we figure out whether pentagrams, fumigation or micrwaves will banish bloom i pledge the 26 counties will be right behind you in settling with byrne

Liam tho ah no

This has actually been a very positive and edifying experience for me. For every actor I throw to the wolves I remember like twenty other actors whose work I didn't even realize I appreciated as much as I do. And then I even go back and save like every third sacrificial lamb from the wolves after a bit of consideration. Maybe actors really are worth the millions we pay them!

Therell be other threads, other wolves

cf liam neeson in the grey actually (great movie btw)

Liam's weird pivot from his slate of period dramas in the 90s to becoming an action star later in life is kinda fascinating to me

I'm trying to think of a single non-ensemble thing I've seen Bloomps in besides Elizabethtown (which was unambitiously fine in the same way pretty much all Crowe films are unambitiously fine). I have basically no conception of him as a screen presence beyond his capacity for taking down elephant things.

That was

Sorry, are you sitting down

cgi

xxpost Me too! I was just commenting on that the other day. Most actors make that transition sometime well before their fifties, but not our Liam.

Even after my holding firm the line here i gotta admit the idea of bloom, radcliffe, knightley in a lynch vehicle does titillate

I refuse to believe mocap could ever convincingly take down a thing, elephantine or otherwise

the elephant thing was CGI or Bloomps was CGIed to have his limbs move in ways that were more aesthetically pleasing to viewing audiences because he usually looks like Gumby on screen?

Liam is quite like costner tho, no range, great clothes horse, speaks clearly enough

The ricky Gervais sketch aside obv

Couldnt see Costner pulling that off

Even after my holding firm the line here i gotta admit the idea of bloom, radcliffe, knightley in a lynch vehicle does titillate

Uh wow I'd watch that

And I've passed on late-period Keanu Neeson but I'll catch up

Can i confess that prior to viggo liam was my strider, just to link back to thread origin

Radcliffe could be Lynch's next MacLachlan if he plays his cards right (and quickly, let's be honest)

Oh no mclachlan is sensational for lynch

Radcliffe has an absence of even banality, sheer vacuum, his spine is a demon's knuckle, his heart is skew-whiff and his mind is howling void- lynch could mine it but never pull warmth nor fun from the depths therein

Can u imagine the director calling for a sexy radcliffe

The sky would crack

HP Lovecraft

Radcliffe could be Lynch's next squalling calf fetus if he plays his card right

so you didn't see his Equus?

friend of mine (Ginger Minj, actually!) once said they were worried Daniel'd just be 'Harry', and after the clothes came off....he was

Radcliffe is a nevernude i dunno what wizardry pulled but theres no way

I thought Little Harry featured prominently in Equus

We are some ways adrift now I'll own

I've only seen Radcliffe in Swiss Army Man, and I'd like to hear who you think could have given a more convincing performance in the role

Cop Land probably should have had a moment this past summer but didn't happen

the writer/director had a good thread just as the riots were starting:

1/ Thinking about making COP LAND (25 yrs ago). My script, about a cult-like suburban town of commuting white cops was premised on the idea that many NYPD didn't live in the 5 boroughs anymore, a conceit the Weinsteins (my studio, close w/ NYPD brass) insisted was impossible. pic.twitter.com/Jh5P1KpZLZ

— Mangold (@mang0ld) May 31, 2020

I love michael palin, but hes a horrible mugger in his (even half) dramatic efforts

https://i.imgur.com/M4tc21x.jpg

And I've passed on late-period Keanu Neeson but I'll catch up

I've only seen three of them but wholeheartedly recommend The Commuter as trash action with some really great visual storytelling bits & bobs

I mean im not going to watch a daniel radcliffe movie am i?

Im just gonna say that nicholas hoult wouldve been better tho. Or cillian Murphy. Diane keaton. Anyone, bar bloom

I saw Cop Land in the theater. one odd movie but i enjoyed it. plus well as sic says it is pretty timely right now

Brad Pitt?

Can’t say Clooney really has much going for him either

Val Kilmer is a better actor than George Clooney, Brad Pitt, and Tom Cruise

I mean im not going to watch a daniel radcliffe movie am i?

Im just gonna say that nicholas hoult wouldve been better tho. Or cillian Murphy. Diane keaton. Anyone, bar bloom

he plays a farting corpse, in the title role

hoult is pale enough, and murphy has similar big wet eyes, but no way could keaton have managed the required stillness

Clooney.

Is.

A.

Better.

Actor.

Than.

Bloom.

Well so’s Keira Knightly.

Clooney's great in Coen flicks and Soderbergh joints. Kilmer bothers to try even less often than Travolta.

Remind me again why we’re counting Orlando Bloom? Which of his roles in a movie with no hobbits or pirates in is even worth making fun of him for? NB I evidently haven’t seen any.

Kilmer great in Top Secret, the only half-good thing in Top Gun, knows his lines in Heat, good for 12 seconds in True Romance, great in KKBB.

Was Hugh Jackman ever good in anything?

Maybe people who accidentally become good at acting in late middle age should be judged based on their tighter-skinned roles alone, once you can stand around with sufficient gravitas you can outclass your meager tricks

Orlando Bloom of course has just grown puffy about the cheeks.

Was Hugh Jackman ever good in anything?

he was good in the musical number that Dan Harmon and Ben Schwartz won an Emmy for writing for the Oscars

(though obv The Hobbit should have won)

I love the number of celebrated thespians who have made appearances itt with nary a mention of like Schwarzenegger or Bruce Willis. Which is precisely as it should be imo (eg rewatched Twelve Monkeys the other night and goddamn if Willis didn't basically carry that entire movie on his shoulders).

I find the Radcliffe hate weird- is this all based on Harry Potter because good god the number of good performances in those movies ain’t much?

I’m reading this thread as the opposite of when I see credits to a film and a certain performer pops up and I think “oh cool they’re in it.” Seeing Philip Seymour Hoffman in “Along Came Polly” as opposed to Burt Reynolds in “Boogie Nights.”

Twelve Monkeys is a goddamn amazing performance from Bruce Willis and makes me extra irritated that he has never fully lived up to that potential in any other project.

You can tell from Moonlighting that he has tons of talent and versatility, and then he just coasted through virtually all of his movie career playing the same character. What a waste.

Yeah I mean he's been pretty much napping throughout his middle age but when he occasionally awakens he's good value

Death Becomes Her

when he occasionally awakens he's good value

While I agree with you that nobody should have introduced Willis to the thread because he doesn't belong, have you noticed him awakening at any point in the last nine years

2012-- Moonrise Kingdom
2012-- Looper
2012-- The Expendables 2
2012-- Lay the Favorite
2012-- The Cold Light of Day
2012-- Fire with Fire (direct-to-DVD)
2013-- A Good Day to Die Hard
2013-- G.I. Joe: Retaliation

2013-- Red 2
2014-- Sin City: A Dame to Kill For
2014-- The Prince (direct-to-DVD)
2015-- Vice (direct-to-DVD)
2015-- Rock the Kasbah
2015-- Extraction (direct-to-VOD)
2016-- Precious Cargo (direct-to-VOD)
2016-- Marauders (direct-to-VOD)
2016-- Split
2017-- Once Upon a Time in Venice (direct-to-VOD)
2017-- First Kill (direct-to-VOD)
2018-- Acts of Violence (direct-to-VOD)
2018-- Death Wish
2018-- Air Strike (direct-to-DVD)
2018-- Reprisal (direct-to-DVD)
2019-- Glass
2019-- The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part (voice cameo)
2019-- Motherless Brooklyn
2019-- 10 Minutes Gone (direct-to-VOD)
2019-- Trauma Center (direct-to-VOD)
2020-- Survive the Night (direct-to-VOD)
2020-- Hard Kill (direct-to-VOD)
2020-- Breach
TK-- Cosmic Sin (shoot finished March 2020)
TK-- Midnight in the Switchgrass (shoot paused for pandemic in March, resumed in June)
TK-- Apex (shot in BC during pandemic last November)
TK-- Out of Death (shot in GA and PR during pandemic last November)
TK-- American Siege (shoot commenced in GA during pandemic last November, currently continuing in BC)

As alluded to upthread, I've seen like fifteen movies released in the last nine years, so

I've spent the past week watching mostly Laurel & Hardy shorts so naturally I'm the guy all the kids look to for opinions about contemporary cinema

Old Lunch reliving my grandparent visits during thanksgiving.

I love the number of celebrated thespians who have made appearances itt with nary a mention of like Schwarzenegger or Bruce Willis.

Possibly some few ppl read the valid exclusion conditions

Silby, a strange approach for you to list the reasons why bloom is considered to be one of the two worst most successful actors in history and then ask why he is considered to be one of the two worst most successful actors in history

None of the responses since are close to breaching the diarrheaic duo

Let me see who else

Someone asked why the radcliffe hate

No hate, worst actor

Ah yes they pointed out other bad acting in HP

Yes there is a lot of bad acting performances in history we are here today to suggest largely full-time dramatic (loosely but like comedians and madonna don't count) actors who have had great success comparable to our two nominees who are as flat-across-the-board(s) ungifted based on their full career showing

I know, i know we should mentioned this probably before now but i spose i maybe felt that nobody would fuckin listen whered i get that idea eh

Let's be real tho, i think madonna probably should count, she chased an acting career long and seriously enough

She is the worst actress in history to do so

In common with radcliffe/bloom- no actual persona, has never been able to act like an actual human in any available footage ive seen

in Suddenly Seeking Susan she's v good and portrays a convincing human

by Truth Or Dare she can't even portray a convincing Madonna

Desperate argument

"someone" is it

Fuckin everyone except gyac afaict so far tbh

Keira Knightly

my argument is not that Madonna should be excluded from consideration

deems knows if he'd named me everyone's opinion wd twirl correctly towards mine

not that it matters, polls are bad and i will never nom

Oh suddenly youre not desperate? xps

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/60/f2/30/60f2302546cedf7baee9a730cb76cef7.gif

a surfeit of susans tbh

Suddenly, it appears

All shapes and sizes of Jake Gyllenhaal leave me cold.

― The Man, DeLorean (onimo), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:20 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

We have the answer please don't make me do the work.

Range of roles from indie to blockbuster with challenging award bait in between.
Amazing physical transformations coz he puts the work in.
Brings an uncannily identical absence of weight, charisma and talent to every role.
Could be replaced by a better actor in every job he's ever had.

Like a Martin Freeman who won't just settle for the everyman calling he deserves.

yeah but he's hot

I'll concede the hotness.

Trying to think of actors who might make steeple-fingers and squint broodingly while pondering a question from James Lipton

And begin their answer with 'well, James, the craft of acting...'

https://static.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2019/07/jake_gyllenhaal_-getty-h_2019-compressed.jpg

I think Emma Stone is total garbage (although she was charming in Superbad)

Wanted to address this actually

She is smart, can deliver a tinny character or a snarky one, can be v charming

Without exception, every single time her character is called to show the ~real emotional core~ underneath she makes like a puking fox, absolutely awful

But cannot be considered because some talent as per first para

xps i fully encourage everyone to do the work, its a participation exercise!

i cannot be convinced that gyllenhaal from end of watch and nightcrawler belongs in the category tbh

do his buggy eyes do a lot more work than people actually call out? Yep.

Are his two modes besides glassy exec presenting or moody teen? Yep, for the most part.

Like id hear out a case he is bad, overrated, etc but cant have him in the category

But interesting nom def

Fair enough re: Stone.

I'm a fan of Villeneuve even tho others are not and I enjoyed both noted-bad-actors Gyllenhaal and Jackman in Prisoners

Villeneuve has patchy movies with brilliant sequences through to movies i think are incredible start to finish, i havent actually noticed much of a pattern in terms of what he gets out of his actors (though gyllenhaal was good in prisoners, didnt think it was a good movie at all)

Next: kevin spacey

^^^

He was going to be mine as soon as I saw the thread title.

ctrl + f 'Cusack'
0/0

what the fuck? no

Tip of cap pbkr

Off to the tip with jordan

I feel it's going excellently

gyllenhaal was great in nightcrawler and he seems to be leaning towards cage-like absurdity in recent films like okja

John Cusack is good not bad

This may or may not be partly related to finding gif sinister Utopia character attractive.

Emma Stone has that Keira Knightley problem of being cast in stuff she has no business being in, but Stone is already much better than KK will ever be.

gif? wtf? his*

gyllenhaal is absolutely good in roles where he gets to lean into his weirdness like Nightcrawler and his delightful-yet-utterly-baffling appearance in John Mulaney's Sack Lunch Bunch. There's a reason Donnie Darko made him a star.

I just thought of a recent one: Henry Cavill. ugh

Oh! Here's one! Ben Mendelsohn. Even his breathing is unconvicing.

I liked him in Animal Kingdom

I will say I don’t understand Ben Whishaw’s popularity at all.

is ben whishaw popular? i mean he seems to get regular gigs but I don't get the impression he's anywhere close to the name recognition level of a Bloom. His biggest role to date afaict is Q.

Cavill mendelson cool presences, can do accents, can act either funny or straight roles, absolutely not near the running tbh

Whishaw was spellbinding (or spellbindingly well cast in a key role) in perfume

Violently disagree -- a hollow man. His American accent is awful, and his posh tones in Rogue One ("Am I still in coh-MAHND?") suggest why the Empire eventually lost to the Rebel Alliance.

Hes really good in the outsider and v dece in captain marvel

Look hes nowhere near the bar

Which is not a line you get to use about an aussie often what what

This crosstalk about two different Bens is making my head spin

mendelsohn is good imo 

cavill otoh is someone's focus-grouped, computer-generated idea of a movie star

oooh yes Cavill, though....I guess I did like him in the Man from U.N.C.L.E. movie, which is maybe the only time that's ever happened.

That actually checks out in re his disappeared beard that time

But charisma alone in the likes of man from uncle set him clear

i enjoyed cavil's haughtiness in that mission impossible movie, i don't think wooden acting in zack snyder movies should be the end-all be-all of judgment for him

Van dien never even got to paul walker fame let alone orlando bloom fame but not an awful shout tbh

― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Tuesday, February 2, 2021 10:14 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

i thought one of the rules was that the cast of starship troopers gets a pass

xpost eh i also think he's terrible in TV things like The Witcher and Enola Holmes

fine, someone else who I mentally file in the same category: Armie Hammer, who thankfully will no longer be appearing on any screens anytime soon.

Caught square re van dien

Think armie was competent as twins, in remake of thingy, as yerman in uncle, in psycho redhead exes movie

can u tell im not invested in knocking him too far out of contention, but "awful person" prob isn't in itself a factor tho

I enjoy Armie Hammer and I have studiously avoided knowing anything about his leaked DMs because I need less nonsense that doesn’t matter in my life

Armie Hammer is a prick but he was great in Sorry To Bother You.

Oh I forgot about Sorry to Bother You! yes ok will concede he was good in that

Yeah forgot that

Good example of casting meh well

See also Aaron Eckart in Thank You For Smoking

Mendelsohn is very good. So is Guy Pearce.

Armie Hammer was terrific in Call Me By Your Name, just the right blond smugness.

Hammer's problem is that he's too conventionally handsome to be the decent utility-player character actor he is, so the money people keep trying to turn him into a movie star, which he will never be.

^^that also perfectly describes the early career of James Marsden, who I’ve now come to appreciate as someone who can always be relied upon to deliver a solid, decent performance in whatever role he’s cast in

Zach Efron

Just remembered I've seen DanRad tread the boards, opposite John Lithgow in How to succeed in business. I guess he was fine! He's short, which is relatable.

there is a brotherhood
of maaaaan

Basically if you're born with a face that ensures you never have to try hard at anything in life we probably shouldn't expect any outsized expenditure of effort from you when you inevitably try your hand at acting

I mean sometimes they'll surprise you but usually nah

Cavill was good in The Man from Uncle, but I couldn't stop catching myself thinking "You know, he'd be a good Superman"

I was waiting for james marsden to come up and im gonna pull out the measure again

Orlando bloom as the prince in enchanted?

Are u dead yet? Did u not die a little? U shouldve, if yr imagination works at all.

James Corden getting a good fresh round of "worst actor ever" this morning.

On the same morning the actual worst actor Jared Leto somehow snatched a GG nod.

Really, reeealllly good looks *can maybe* act as a function like being able to dance or sing or comedic or action ability, but i think that the ability to act in the way we have utterly failed to coherently scope out, to "be" in front of a camera and not shrivel the viewer a little, is nonetheless distinct from it

My acting teacher used to tell me that the worst thing a screen actor could do was bore, naturalistically. She believed that boring dramatically took enormous skills

The second worse thing she said they could do was wait until they had entered the scene before they started acting.

The answer to the question of this thread would be a low-energy naturalistic actor who wanders across the screen before mumbling a line. Orlando fits the bill.

I also submit Lin-Manuel Miranda for consideration

Oh yeah James Corden is awful. I had to watch The Prom a couple months ago and wow

Its maybe but not quite analogous to presence i mean this thread isnt chipping away at any new questions here but i saw for instance brad pitt offered upthread presumably as a troll, now i happen to think brad pitt is a very good movie actor, showy and distracting at times sure but entertaining, talented enough across a broad board and interesting.

He was in friends, and i think throwing a movie star into a gauzy-round-the-edges sitcom focus is maybe a good test

He was in friends and immediately it was "this'll be good what will they do with brad pitt" and they did nothing inspired but he played well with being brad pitt in that context as well as finding a friends pitch, done the job and went home.

If you were watching friends (and it does not for the purposes matter how you feel about friends) and the camera panned to daniel radcliffe youd hope that it was an accident, that theyd carry on without a pause. youd hope for his sake but also the situations sake and the viewers sake that he didnt get to open his mouth the same way you would about an especially dull and charmless and unwelcoming-of-attn kid in your class who came to the attn of the class, sweaty for them and knowing this wont be good at best itll be awkward and unglamorous and stupidly unsensible like all of life's unscripted joins and wishing you didnt have to see it but also a little bit hating their awfulness and wishing in some small hairline unacknowledge way that they be punished and removed so that you would never have to tolerate or acknowledge or be embarrassed for the room or fear bearing witness to their own agonies of the small moment ever again

brad pitt nor clooney nor olivier never made anyone feel like that nor would they if you saw them appear somewhere in the glare of attn like that

jesus lads jerry o connell wouldnt ever make you feel like *that*

the bar is daniel radcliffe and how he makes *you* feel when you see that someone else has seen *him* and he knows they have seen him

the bar is miserable and profound

daniel radcliffe is the boy in the portrait in tom cruise's attic

I also submit Lin-Manuel Miranda for consideration

Corden is vastly above Bloom level based on The Wrong Mans and The Lodger, as hateful as he may be for many other reasons

If you can’t enjoy Joan Cusack, you don’t deserve movies

deems, I'm going to see if I can get you a deal to flesh out your 'Radcliffe = worst actor' arguments into a legit book. The world needs this.

For women, I’d add perpetual wet blanket Claire Danes

xpost don't need to write a lot, just flesh light

you were watching friends (and it does not for the purposes matter how you feel about friends) and the camera panned to daniel radcliffe youd hope that it was an accident, that theyd carry on without a pause. youd hope for his sake but also the situations sake and the viewers sake that he didnt get to open his mouth the same way you would about an especially dull and charmless

none of this persuades me that he wasn’t aptly cast as the titular flatulent cadaver tbf

Someone suggested Joan Cusack? She's amazing! Just for School of Rock ("I've just been informed that all your children are missing") and Broadcast News alone. And she's really good in a more serious role in The Perks of Being a Wallflower.

yeah she was good in Perks. I always enjoyed her in Grosse Point Blank too, as her unhinged assistant.

"He's a real BAD ASS!!!"

I was gonna protest (its my role itt) claire danes and i realised that each of my counterarguments was in fact the charismatic and interesting anna paquin

i haven't seen the americans does that save claire danes, anyone

We cannot rise to the bait of ppl offering cusacks.

Yes Joan Cusack rules. An argument could be made for John though...

i haven't seen the americans does that save claire danes, anyone

Is that Homeland or Homefront? She isn't in The Americans.

In itself a tell i feel

ftr I was joking about Claire Danes upthread, but Anna Paquin absolutely fits

No!

Elle est charmante

Ben Mendo is a ludicrous nom. The Yesr My Voice Broke, The Big Steal, Cosi, Amy, Metal Skin, Mullet, Animal Kingdom, Idiot fucken Box? ffs

jerry o'connell is a good answer

An argument could be made for John though...

― Roz, Wednesday, February 3, 2021 9:11 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

as reprehensible as i find him as a person, john cusack has been good in movies iirc

especially the gold standard grosse pointe blank, where both joan and john are great

Americas sweethearts again

Honestly ilx will u not pls acknowledge this masterpiece

Chuck Norris

Claire Danes was amazing in Homeland. I only watched the first season but she was very skilled at making this X of creases appear on her face any time her character was "getting a little bipolar"

deems my comment upthread implicitly stated that i love america's sweethearts and think it is a great film

as reprehensible as i find him as a person, john cusack has been good in movies iirc

at one point about a decade ago (?) he listed the few actually-good movies he starred in and it was completely accurate, so I appreciate that

let's turn this around and make this an america's sweethearts thread now

Chuck Norris

― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal)

Action star

Brad u have been seen, its everyone else

xp to self, here it is

https://media.giphy.com/media/l44QrCo1PxKzHwRsk/giphy.gif

Best performance in americas sweethearts would be a legit ten-contenders poll

hank azaria and billy crystal are both wretched in america's sweethearts

xxp

but i like the movie

Danes has way too interesting a face, deployed interestingly in that clip, to qualify, she's out

radcliffe in that clip would not have made it to a gif the question is moot

Mods

Vin Diesel is the least charismatic of all action stars, yet he seems to keep getting decent roles.

Keira Knightley and Andrew Garfield were both good in Never Let Me Go, a brilliant film which I can never watch again.

Vin Diesel is very cool, is an action star, set the screen alight on his breakthrough, rejected on about twelve counts tbh

hm define cool

he's done a drama too and voiced Iron Giant

I also don't remember him when he was an uncredited orderly in Awakenings, maybe should re-watch

How has this thread reached 600 posts without any mention of Dominic West?

If i just wanted to name actors I personally cannot stand appearing on my screen i could throw out toni collette lads, its not the roles they pick its not do they irritate you, its not dyou like or dislike them its not (and my wording in title is partly to blame here) even can they act

its the feeling of doom thing, radcliffe as emitter bloom as feeder thats the thing

cant portray a human thing but even then not just that or cruise would be in the (meta joke) running

do think knightley rly is in it

Danes is good in Homeland S1, delightful in R+J, and used to be polite in Sydney pubs. Three impeccable performances.

i had three impeccable performances with ur mom iirc

Dominic west is boring and lazy and no good but if you can be perfectly cast as mcnulty then you have something

radcliffe nor bloom could be perfectly cast except off cliffs

I've never seen it, but I think Danes is highly regarded in My So-Called Life.

good in Homeland S1

so good that even though it’s deliberately the most ACTING! role you could look for in a frankly ridiculous melodrama, she’s compelling and persuasive.

Vin Diesel is extremely bad at acting, but good enough at producing that it hasn’t had the chance to affect the quality of his films too drastically.

radcliffe nor bloom could be perfectly cast except off cliffs

thank you for this

Vin’s phone videos of him announcing production decisions or doing karaoke are terrible though. Completely unbelievable in the role.