who is worse - Taibbi or Greenwald

taibi because greenwald has actually done useful journalism in the past.

or does that make greenwald worse because of how far he's fallen?

Voted Glenn due to his direct involvement in sending Reality Winner to prison because he was careless AF.

greenwald has probably caused more people to be murdered or imprisoned overall but taibbi is a serial sexual predator who pays people to harass anyone who mentions this fact online despite his alleged ability to handle criticism on other issues so idk what a utilitarian answer would be here

Clearly it's the Phantom Zone for both of them.

taibbi because greenwald has actually done useful journalism in the past.

Funny, I'd make the exact opposite argument. Greenwald has never been a journalist; he's always been an opinion blogger, going back to the GW Bush administration. Taibbi, meanwhile, did some good work on subprime mortgages and financial corruption in general about 15 years ago. But now they're both irredeemable pieces of shit.

Voted Glenn due to his direct involvement in sending Reality Winner to prison because he was careless AF.

Didn't everyone decide RW was a war criminal last week or something?

Greeenwald definitely would not have been capable of writing some of Taibbi's books--like the one about Eric Garner.

I remember Greenwald--back before he became a right winger--trying to crowd source a title for his upcoming book that was supposed to be about the right's obsession with machismo. I think he ended up calling it Great American Hypocrites or something.

a harder question is why certain
factions which now distance themselves seemed to think for years that defending these fucks from people who accurately characterised who they were and what they were doing was some kind of socialist praxis - despite them not even pretending to be particularly left wing themselves (a related question could also be asked about the level of anglo-left support for the right-wing regimes they've done PR for)

I read both a great deal through 2011; Taibbi wrote well-reported and decently written journalism, almost always fun. He's the one I didn't expect to turn into a quasi-conservative.

I've Tabbi to thank (up to a point) for explaining credit defaults swaps and other late '00 horrors.

but Greenwald wins this poll based solely on his honored guest status on Tucker Carlson's show.

I have to grudgingly admit that taibbi is a better writer than glenn, who never really evolved out of his 2005-era hysterical blogger tone

Didn't Greenwald used to portray himself as a libertarian? He did have a fairly libertarian view of government surveillance, anyway.

I didn’t follow Taibbi but didn’t he start to turn during Covid, and was starting to get obsessed over lockdowns, etc, arguing that Sweden was doing just great,etc?

tabbi is a baby compared to greenwald

tabbi is a babby

how is taibbi formed

have no idea who these two people are.

OK FINE, I know who they are I just don’t give a shit about them.

https://i.imgur.com/F0SCnuI.jpg

I continue to subscribe to Taibbi. He's still doing interesting, useful reporting on finance stuff and other subjects. The whatboutism stuff can be tedious, but I think it's good (for me) to hear opinions outside of my bubble.

"Didn't everyone decide RW was a war criminal last week or something?"

Well the US government decided that and I think the only reason it's come up again is because she was the last person we recall being charged under the Espionage Act which is what is motivating the investigation into Trump. But no, I do not think most rational people believe she is a war criminal, she got railroaded.

Greenwald is worse for reasons stated above (never a good journalist, Taibbi was for a while). Both can eat my shit now.

I meant the reaction to Reality saying she had 600 confirmed kills as a drone operator

Greenwald. Actively working on behalf of the GOP 24/7

xpost oh I totally missed that one.

Yeah she’s definitely a war criminal but for reasons unrelated to why she actually got prosecuted

Whoa I totally missed the drone stuff. Yikes

smh you guys are just haters with max 500 kills

I think Greenwald is worse but they're both afflicted with weird Trump/Russia stuff that I can't totally figure out. (Could add Chris Hedges to that list too.) Something about the Trump era broke them, in a way that the 9/11 era broke the brains of an earlier generation of iconoclasts (Hitchens etc).

He's still doing interesting, useful reporting on finance stuff and other subjects.

other subjects like what, the obsessive transphobia?

i think taibbi might actually be worse now, greenwald is just enjoying the grift of being a useful idiot for the right & is fairly lazy and often weaselly about it while taibbi is a lot more aggressive in his culture-warring

I think Greenwald is worse but they're both afflicted with weird Trump/Russia stuff that I can't totally figure out.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, August 15, 2022 10:25 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

its just careerism, theyre making way more than they ever did with less work selling newsletters, and theyre both excitable reactionaries without strong politics so it wasnt hard for them to make the pivot when the opportunity presented itself

they were both also fired so they needed to do something

Greenwald has his 87 dogs though

who let the dogs out (glenn did glenn did) (87 of them)

I wonder what Pareene thinks of Taibbi's trajectory

The size of a man's trajectory should tell you nothing about him.

BTE

Greenwald has his 87 dogs though

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Taibbi is putting in his best effort to win this poll.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

straight reprinting the lamest gop talking points

Biden’s handlers had the otherwise inspiring setting of Philadelphia’s Independence Hall bathed in so much blood-red light, he looked like an opening act for Queensrÿche or Rammstein. https://t.co/i8DT7g1kKv

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) September 3, 2022

love too criminalize crimes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbwDCD_XwAMVW5W?format=jpg&name=small

first they came for the criminals and i published a newsletter

Bringing the war on terror home? Is this an article from 2004 about the FBI setting up Muslims for bombings that were never going to happen?

The speech Biden’s primetime gambit most resembled was the great demented clarion call of our age, George W. Bush’s 2002 State of the Union address: https://t.co/i8DT7g1kKv

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) September 3, 2022

This motherfucker whined for years about overheated #resistance rhetoric and this is what he thinks about Biden’s thousandth call for civility?

GG in particular has been very concerned about Brandon’s imminent mass arrests of anyone who had a Trump bumper sticker.

starting to think these guys might be racist

Which is worse--poop with corn or poop with peanuts?

Not sure where else to put this. David Sacks's newish podcast network Callin is where all the contrarians like this (e.g., Michael Tracey, Aaron Mate, etc.) have flocked to.

they were offered upfront payment I believe

Indistinguishable now

The sleazy, pro-censorship pack of liberal employees of media corporations united last night to attack @mtaibbi -- as they do to any journalist who breaks a real story about real power centers -- and, because they were so desperate to discredit it, showed what they are. Watch: pic.twitter.com/DWEIL70G1h

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) December 3, 2022

greenwalds tone is so crazy and hes constantly accusing people of terrible things

for lols (lulz?) I want a podcast of Taibbi, Greenwald and Armond White.

god no

No I'd be fine with that, if they had to record in a vault at the bottom of the ocean and somehow all the tapes were lost and so was the key.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNHUMtW0uso

I think Glenn's thread there is longer than Taibbi's original

The thing is—Taibbi usually sounds fairly sane on a podcast (remember he used to do one with Alex Pareene) but Greenwald is constantly in Drudge Siren mode

I like how Glenn thinks journalism is having stuff handed to you. Taibbi was obviously not going through Twitter’s garbage.

a+ tweet 100%

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjO9XDpXwBw1QXJ?format=jpg&name=large

i fucking wish

"Stochastic terrorism" LOL

No one's impressed by your ability to string big-sounding words together, Glenn.

it's a joke

it's a bad joke bcz he's a bad writer with a tin ear for parody -- or indeed the meaning of prose generally (his own and anyone else's) -- but he's mocking the use of the term stochastic terrorism by others, of e.g. libs of tik tok

People who have no sense of humor should not try to make jokes.

Isn’t the difference that Libs of Tik Tok basically goes after regular people because they ages LGBT+ and not public figures like Taibbi being owned for being dumb?

- because they are—

Can’t believe Taibbi was doxxed as a journalist. They even posted a link to his newsletter.

I think Glenn Greenwald of all people shouldn’t be joking about/commenting on putting other people in harm’s way (see: his husband, Reality Winner) unless it’s to give tips on how to be more effective at it

I’m not even sure what his point is, since he freaked out in this exact way about Taylor Lorenz publishing the name of the LoTT cretin

i think it's actually yet another hit at taylor lorenz (who i believe helped popularise "stochastic terrorism" when reporting on LoTT)

he's taking her critique of LoTT (viz "stochastic terrorism" blah blah), and making the (implied) joke that if it's was bad to attack lorenz then it must also bad (and hypocritical) to attack taibbi. that's the structure of his sarcasm anyway.

his position on lorenz is basically that it's fine that she gets attacked by his (and tucker's) orcs, she's a public figure working for corporate media. attacking taibbi isn't bad bcz taibbi finds it stressful or terrifying, it's bad bcz it reveals you as partisan against independnent citizen journalism and a lapdog for the corporate media

it doesn't land bcz (a) he's a terrible writer whose tantrums step on his use of humour and (b) bcz it's very obvious he's chucking literally everything at the wall to gain the hunter dickpic scandal more momentum than it seems to be getting

adding: not quite sure why i'm here analysing jokes that aren't working told by someone i think is a vast toxic idiot never not acting in bad faith

If I don't see more Hunter dick pix tout suite I'm voting Trump in '24.

Taibbi’s face in that tweet kinda reminds me of Ralph Meeker in Kiss Me Deadly when he’s gleefully slamming an old man’s hand in a desk drawer.

also lol when did taibbi last still have even that much hair

it's not the crime it's the cover-up

hold on all this hunter biden laptop stuff is all about photos of someone's penis?

— 🍅 (@turtlekiosk) December 4, 2022

Touché, turtlekiosk. #onethread

You conduct yourself *very* differently when speaking to someone than talking about them on social media. Maybe we all do, but you really do. Feel free to attack me, mock, criticize away: all good.But try not to knowingly distort what I said for cheap, ephemeral Twitter applause.

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) December 6, 2022

oh

Y'all just piss on me, shit on me, spit on my grave
Talk about me, laugh behind my back, but in my face
Y'all some well-wishers, friendly-acting, envy-hiding snakes

greenwald seems genuinely fucked in the head

hes always been a weird guy but this is verging into blatant delusion

this is glenn and his misfit clique against the cool kids in the cafeteria

What is GG responding to? Jeet hasn’t tweeted about Glenn in days.

I've been blocked by @ggreenwald so can someone ask him what he thinks of this? (And tell him to stop being a coward and unblock me). https://t.co/xG7NBz5ze0

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) December 4, 2022

im blocked by glenn too but can read the embedded tweets on here, bit of a security flaw

see if you can empty his bitcoin wallet

heterodoxxing

Greenwald still doesn't understand that posting anything to the internet amounts to hurling it into an infinite distortion field?

If nothing else, this little episode inspired Greenwald to invent polka dot festooned hate-vectors

pro tip, when you find yourself earnestly posting yarn & thumbtack maps to illustrate the conspiracy against you it’s time for some therapy pic.twitter.com/CwCwN9S0I2

— kilgore trout, death to putiner (@KT_So_It_Goes) December 7, 2022

lol hate-vectors

i think that's another version of his idea of a joke so i'll just repost what mark s typed cuz it's really otm

it's a bad joke bcz he's a bad writer with a tin ear for parody -- or indeed the meaning of prose generally (his own and anyone else's)

glenn sees a joke and then runs it over w/ a bulldozer, backs up over the joke and then runs it over again. it's almost endearing in a way

im 0 for 2 catching glenns jokes lol

congrats to matt

Matt Taibbi's Twitter following has doubled in the last two weeks, from 700k to 1.4 million. 500k of those followers came within 48 hours of his #TwitterFiles threadhttps://t.co/vt4PE1zG9O pic.twitter.com/vueIN3Mjzw

— Anthony DeRosa (@Anthony) December 7, 2022

hes getting rich off searching a database for hunter bidens name then tweeting the eyes emoji

Truly we live in the Golden Age of Grifters.

He just just tweet "Tick, Tick, Tick" every few hours

glenn going pepesilvia.jpg with the chart is something

I don't know what he means "vectors" means

or what he thinks that means

is it just "these people interact on twitter making fun of us?"

"Source: Online Safety Expect G. Greenwald" is creating more questions than answering questions

I assumed it was a Covid joke. I've come to expect these try-hard nearly inscrutable jokes from GG.

ugh

Here's Matt reaching another stage of the cross, the Ben Shapiro appearance:

Matt Taibbi tells Ben Shapiro that conservativism is appealing to young people because there's no sense of humor on the political left.
He goes on to praise Matt Walsh's transphobic hit piece "What Is A Woman" as a good example of political comedy pic.twitter.com/R6FLplUIaP

— The Serfs (@theserfstv) December 13, 2022

conservatives are so good at comedy, the laughs just don't come because they're so funny that it overwhelms our senses and we can't laugh

is there really that much money in aligning yourself with reactionaries

There’s attention, which some sick individuals enjoy

Taibbi's follower count doubled over the past few weeks.

a low end estimate for taibbi's revenue from substack even before the twitter files stuff would put him in the high 6 figures to low 7 figures range. a high end estimate would prob be around like $3m per year? so... yeah

greenwald made a little over $500k at the intercept... low end estimate for him would at least double that income thru substack, he prob makes closer to $2m per year i bet

& none of this is including speaking fees, consulting, books etc whatever other money they can make off themselves

thank u i am now more depressed than i was before

how many vodka shots had Taibbi had in that screengrab

I’m not gonna lie, I would love to create a shameless right wing persona that got me paid if I could write professionally and had lecture circuit contacts, with a long-term plan of revealing to my shock and amazement that the entire right wing sucks ferociously and that everyone who follows me should ditch the whole enterprise and become left wing/left-adjacent, but then I remember that I would have to sleep at night plus also the lack of professional writing ability and I realize I’m doing the adult version of recreating the first Star Wars trilogy with two action figures and random toys/household decorations that my parents had when I was a kid

Have you seen what passes for professional writing on right wing websites?

there are people who make big money pandering to wingnuts but its a competitive field, taibbi greenwald et al had the benefit of being big names, really they couldve done fine staying in their lanes, theyre at least somewhat doing it because they want to

DJP for comptroller 2024

The thing is, someone still generated all of that word vomit. I lose interest after like 250 words

tbh that actually seems like a good use for AI writing: “write 3000 words about how the woke leftists made you realize that Ron Desantis is based,” wait for the Daily Wire checks to come rolling in

I’m not gonna lie, I would love to create a shameless right wing persona that got me paid if I could write professionally and had lecture circuit contacts, with a long-term plan of revealing to my shock and amazement that the entire right wing sucks ferociously and that everyone who follows me should ditch the whole enterprise and become left wing/left-adjacent, but then I remember that I would have to sleep at night plus also the lack of professional writing ability and I realize I’m doing the adult version of recreating the first Star Wars trilogy with two action figures and random toys/household decorations that my parents had when I was a kid

I've had this dream too. But back in high school I thought it might be cool to start a cult, but then I gradually realized that even if it succeeded, you'd just wind up spending all your time hanging out with people who genuinely believed things that you knew to be rank horseshit you made up for money, and that seems super depressing.

starting a cult, becoming a wingnut influencer are things that seem easy because theyre dumb but actually take a certain kind of demented instinct to make work, check out the right wing d list on twitter, guys with 50k followers trying to grind it out with a podcast newsletter etc hoping to quit their day jobs

I mean, I would make an excellent undercover cop, but then I’d have to be a cop, and no.

lol he sounds so nervous to be on this losers web show

Matt Taibbi tells Ben Shapiro that conservativism is appealing to young people because there's no sense of humor on the political left.
He goes on to praise Matt Walsh's transphobic hit piece "What Is A Woman" as a good example of political comedy pic.twitter.com/R6FLplUIaP

— The Serfs (@theserfstv) December 13, 2022

Its a change that happened almost imperceptibly AND overnight?

yeah

https://t.co/VqJnWquNJ6 pic.twitter.com/ztaqBa5EPJ

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) December 13, 2022

thing about taibbi and greenwald is their politics were always pretty shallow and therefor changeable, just big rant guys more or less

tho with greenwald he was always kind of a libertarian weirdo so he didnt have far to go

is it too much to hope for some self reflection on the part of certain dudes on the left who spent so much time and energy defending these fucks from criticism?

they were always like this but for years you'd be harrassed relentlessly by their stans for pointing out the obvious

unfortunately Morbs is dead and we cannot ask him :(

No. Self reflection is for the weak.

self-reflection is impossible

(I am a vampire)

this was a review of another incoherent weirdo that traffics in these circles, but I revisited it yesterday and the first two paragraphs could easily be about taibbi

https://www.bookforum.com/print/2603/thomas-chatterton-williams-s-confused-argument-for-a-post-racial-society-23610

the guy who blamed rap music for his domestic violence and in fact wrote a book about it

in this review (of a newer book) it’s mentioned that he once again mentions that relationship from his teens, but only to say she was hot or something

if any of these people were pretending to do be journalists they’d remember that you’re supposed to put together facts in a way that shows a narrative of what happened, but calling them Incoherents is good imo because all of their writing is “here are a strict of e-mail messages or whatever — you know what this means” where there is no singular, comprehensible meaning

Or maybe he’s simply just stupid:

Once we had a standard in this country that the FBI had to at least have some indication of possible crime to initiate investigations. No longer. They can “pre-assess” at will, with no chargeable crime in sight, and people like you are fine with it. https://t.co/qhZMi1vutb

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) December 19, 2022

yup

i know this isn't the Elon thread, but oof one of these responses:

This is exactly why @elonmusk is important for the future of Twitter as well as all of humanity

He wasn’t playing favorites.

He was making the playing field equal and exposing the wrongdoings of those who took an oath to “govern” and “protect” us

— ✨✨✨ (@omzStudio) December 19, 2022

Taibbi's a full-on right-wing grifter at this point.

Honored and grateful to ⁦@Jim_Jordan⁩ and ⁦@JudiciaryGOP⁩ to have the opportunity to testify about the #TwitterFiles in the House next Thursday, with ⁦@ShellenbergerMD⁩. https://t.co/IsNrVVFATD

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) March 1, 2023

is transcribing what this idiot actually says known as "Taibblature"?

jesus christ imagine being honored and grateful to jim jordan

yeah, that's humiliating

what a pos

Even if I were testifying before Bernie Sanders himself I'd die before I referred to myself as being honored and grateful, that's slave talk.

I saw that the 'weaponization' committee has a budget of two million

Which should pay for Jordan's dry cleaning and a few rounds of golf

boy I don't really post much to the Twitters any more but I really wanna go in on Taibbi, what a fuckin dick

taibbi's on the hill today. rupar's doing one of his giant threads with a million videos. recommended if you hate matt taibbi

Taibbi says the Twitter files are bigger than anything he's covered in his career, including the fallout from the 2008 financial crisis pic.twitter.com/c9dhJwi5vF

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 9, 2023

not really a fan of epic congress owns but in this case ill make an exception

the smug grin of a bullshit peddler

never heard him speak before, it's like the worst boss in Office Space but with 90% more repulsive wheedling

yeah his speaking voice is something else

There's like people starving in the street, why is congress wasting even one minute on ""The Twitter Files""

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bMP5U3df1I

Congressional Republicans are famously known for caring about people starving in the street

Hey they are fighting for the right of those people starving in the streets not to have their tweets deprioritized by the algorithm

"its certainly the most brave story that ive ever worked on personally"

this guy!

"its certainly the most brave story that ive ever worked on personally"

this guy!

near the end he makes also gave a lesson in journalism, reminding lawmakers that journalists don't go into stories with preconceived notions of the story they want to tell, and that they let the facts guide them instead

Glenn's got your back Matty

To Democrats, "journalist" means: one who mindlessly and loyally endorses DNC talking points. @mtaibbi's response to some random member of Congress who called him a "so-called journalist": pic.twitter.com/tjIN8rSOin https://t.co/b77Ffndg1g

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) March 9, 2023

he has loads of replies of people basically shitting on his profession which he's fine with because in his eyes he's no longer one of 'them'. which, based on his output in the last year or more, is technically true.

This Taibbi-Weiss hearing was set up so that right wing cable news can use clips of it to amplify the narrative. The vast majority of people who don't inject FOX News directly into their veins probably won't even know the hearings happened.

It is pretty funny how angry Jim Jordan gets at Plaskett

Oh my god Matt taibbi meeting with the man he said looked like “a bunch of waterlogged Reagan masks sewn together at gunpoint” will wonders never cease https://t.co/cUx42DcBFZ

— josie duffy rice (@jduffyrice) March 10, 2023

I wonder how bad HST’s politics would have gotten over the last half decade.

The Democrats Have Lost the Plot
Reclaiming just a little time, from a crazy House hearing on free speech:
https://t.co/iq0SGE1xI4

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) March 10, 2023

The Democrats made it clear they were not interested in talking about free speech except as it pertains to Chrissy Teigen

He still has no answer to why he published no instances of the Trump White House asking for tweets to be taken down even after it's been proven by others that they did.

lol yikes

Me: "It's just error after error, Matt?"@mtaibbi: "Well, that is an error."

Watch me confront Matt Taibbi with multiple, unacknowledged, and glaring mistakes in his Twitter Files reporting.

Full @MehdiHasanShow interview later tonight. Preview:pic.twitter.com/TnbS8oZ1rj

— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) April 6, 2023

Nearly two weeks ago, @mtaibbi challenged me on Twitter to invite him onto my show to discuss Elon Musk working with the Indian government to censor speech online.

Today, he came on the show... and refused to talk about it or criticize Musk.

Preview:pic.twitter.com/kDHroEvf5L

— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) April 6, 2023

Yeah, this was a bloodbath

always amazes and irritates me how utterly unprepared these people are to deal with any kind of pushback whatsoever

Giving media personalities serotonin crumbs 24/7 via social media seems to have warped their priorities, quelle surprise

Taibbi's claim is false.

The core role of the EIP was to document and analyze election misinformation. 22M is the number we calculated *after* the election of the number of Tweets regarding false claims.

Here is the document, please read Chapter 5.https://t.co/EPqfuJaVck https://t.co/Rtg6bWpRwi

— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) April 6, 2023

Taibbi sounds like a little boy.

I just finished listening to the "American Scandal" podcast series on Snowden. Hard to believe that the Glenn Greenwald in that series is the same asshole we see now.

Taibbi will be tweeting about this interView for weeks until all his suckers really think he won

Ghosted pic.twitter.com/5pqFzjKa39

— Laura Jedeed (@LauraJedeed) April 7, 2023

amazing -- what platform is that conversation happening on?

Substack's own chat function.

Beginning early next week I’ll be using the new Substack Notes feature (to which you’ll all have access) instead of Twitter, a decision that apparently will come with a price as far as any future Twitter Files reports are concerned. It was absolutely worth it and I’ll always be grateful to those who gave me the chance to work on that story, but man is this a crazy planet.

The grift must go on.

must be really terrible to have to leave twitter a day after getting clowned to oblivion

Perfectly fine with him thoroughly disappearing over there.

lol guy was calling the twitter files the most important story of his career like a week ago

👀 @ElonMusk (Account that mostly reposts old memes) is no longer following @mtaibbi

— Big Tech Alert (@BigTechAlert) April 7, 2023

looking into this

Literally yesterday he said he wouldn't say a bad word against Musk!

lmao this fuckin tool https://t.co/GpWR0vnUxf

— kilgore trout, blue check free since 2003 (@KT_So_It_Goes) April 7, 2023

pic.twitter.com/lLZjXQAqw8

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) April 7, 2023

pathetic

tough couple weeks for begging ass shitheads

singal and weiss and tiabbi are all laying low for completely different reasons but also the same reason. lol

— disgraced ion storm forums mod (@gun_toucher) April 8, 2023

Has Glenn been quiet?

idk he blocked me lol

quick look at his timeline on incognito mode and it does appear hes been tweeting

And attracting deranged right-wingers like flies

this is why he blocked me lol

Finally, for imbeciles claiming I'm crying or angry with the result, the reason Lula went from prisoner in 2018 to valid and then winning candidate in 2022 is because our reporting - based on our brave source - is what proved his conviction corrupt and freed him to run this year. pic.twitter.com/MtJ5YXKZNy

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) October 30, 2022

i heard you were crying

— br◎seph (@on3ness) October 31, 2022

lol

o jeez

Twitter apparently won’t let me search for Matt Taibbi tweets anymore, even when I use neutral words like “the” or “and.” pic.twitter.com/n3PmvaZvkQ

— Justin Tiehen (@jttiehen) April 8, 2023

we're getting into downfall meme territory at this point

Still can't get over the fact that TWO DAYS AGO he was bootlicking away. That didn't help!

tbf its hard to respect bootlickers

this is simply the greatest thing ever I almost like elon now

"I almost don't mind that the maniac driver crashed through my neighbor's yard and fence, then into the side of my garage, collapsing the roof and totaling my car, because he ran over my neighbor's smug little garden gnome that always irritated me whenever I noticed it."

ooops!

maniac driver fully self-driving Tesla crashed through my neighbor's yard

Oh well!

I guess Elon Musk releasing his private DMs with Matt Taibbi kinda clears up once and for all that whole kerfuffle in Congress over whether Musk was Taibbi’s source. 🤷🏽‍♂️

It’s also a reminder that Musk, a la Trump, is loyal to no one. A lesson Taibbi learned the hard way.

— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) April 10, 2023

the private messages were mundane and dumb to the point there really wasn't anything there outside of that context

yeah it was hard to tell what he was even trying to prove with them, other that hes a scumbag who will release private messages

the only fact in there was that taibbi was part of substack's recruitment program when he joined

trying real hard for "see, he admit it!" but it's something everyone already knew. guess if you can have way too much time on your hands you can quibble about what it means to be an employee

kinda sad that we seemingly know more about Taibbi than Musk does

maybe we should make some bad taibbi memes so he knows what the guy's about

we could get another round of "pedo guy" discourse

seems like one of musks core beliefs that hes such a genius he can just finger paint his way through life and everything will work out fine, and tbf it has, tho he is experiencing some trouble as of late

had a moment of cognitive dissonance where I was thinking about how SV world is a mix of people who have actual research backgrounds and deep technical knowledge and some randos who managed to stand up a company that had "blogs" in the name in the right year and they're all just mushed together

guess people are smart and motivated (or dumb and lazy) in different ways

Taibbi was interviewed on WFMU yesterday by station mgr Ken Freedman -- https://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/126568 if you want to listen.

if you were wondering what Matt Taibbi’s next move would be after leaving Twitter following a falling out with Elon Musk…

do i have some news for you pic.twitter.com/eSTEEmtRZO

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) April 13, 2023

haa its not a race to the bottom matt take a minute to savor the journey

matt's just heeding that old piece of investigative journalistic wisdom: follow the grift

'Twitter Files author Matt Taibbi' is a good byline anywhere

lol he was a random IT guy just like snowden

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ftn4OxcaQAAQbjw?format=jpg&name=medium

He’s pissed the guy didn’t go to him.

I dunno, when it comes to "most secrete" things, Greenwald's twitter feed is one of them.

glenn going fully with the network for people banned by youtube, they do pay him a lot tbf

👀Glenn Greenwald says he is leaving @Substack and heading to Locals, the subscription newsletter platform acquired by @rumblevideo, instead.
— Greenwald launched a daily live show on Rumble last year pic.twitter.com/L7dQp4DnUq

— Sara Fischer (@sarafischer) April 18, 2023

From the Guardian, to the Intercept, to Substack, to . . . Locals.

I hope this means non-subscribers can live our lives never hearing or reading anything he has to say.

idk, personally I can't wait to read his latest article on gender issues

I hope this means non-subscribers can live our lives never hearing or reading anything he has to say.

That has been the absolute boon of everyone paywalling the shit out of themselves. There are so many of these people — Taibbi, Greenwald, Weiss, DeBoer, Dreher, Sullivan, Yglesias — that I never see a single article by. Between that and not following anyone on Twitter who talks about them, I can go weeks without even remembering they exist.

yeah its very considerate of them

"The stars of our business in mainstream media are all ppl who go along w/ the consensus view of things. And it's very, very frowned upon to raise questions about things that have 'been decided.'" Matt Taibbi @mtaibbi, investigative journalisthttps://t.co/rPiPXC3JAX

— American Thought Leaders 🇺🇸 with @JanJekielek (@AmThoughtLeader) July 22, 2023

the perfect landing

Taibbi has truly lost his fucking mind in the last 3ish years

Jan Jekielek’s Thought-Leading-Jazz-Records

Why does his headshot make him look like Vince Vaughn’s thumb

Jan Jekielek’s Thought-Leading-Jazz-Records

Taibbi has truly lost his fucking mind in the last 3ish years

yeah it seems more like a tactical decision, when he was on Ben Shapiro's show claiming that the left has no sense of humor anymore and comedy is the province of the right these days - motherfucker you were making the rounds on leftist comedy podcasts two years ago!

Maybe he went to Hannah Gadsby’s art exhibit and grossly over corrected

ending up at the falun gong newspaper is really something

Falun upward

fucking Epoch Times, omfg...perhaps journalism is something you should only do for a few years, lifers seem to get warped these days

Falun Gong and Happy Science practitioners always look so morose and defeated when I see them pathetically trying to get people to notice them on the streets of Vancouver

This is just an episode of a talk show I think

Yeah, I don't think the Epoch Times would waste their money on Taibbi as a full-time employee.

but this is a paper he wouldn't have wanted mentioned in the same sentence in a decade ago.

*same sentence as him

he's in the company of other thought leaders--like a swimmer who lost to Leah Thomas

Falun upward

― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes)

lol

strong “yknow a man’s gotta eat” vibe. america has no end of the line but death afaict after over a half century of watching. worse, it loves comebacks

Matt Lech from the Majority Report, who was the producer for the scuttled podcast Taibbi did with Alex Pareene, says that Taibbi was always complaining about the money he'd missed out on when his Intercept deal fell through. Then he was in negotiations with some Hollywood star about a film version of his book about Eric Garner when the Exile sexual harassment mini-scandal broke, and the talks were cut off, bumming Taibbi out even more. So it really does seem like a Gonna Get My Bag thing going on.

The mainstream media won’t tell you about all the amazing qi out there being suppressed by corporate Democrats, they’ll never mention that Shen Yun is thousands of years of Chinese civilization before Communism, frankly I’m disgusted, it’s sickening. https://t.co/YeIYbluGbk

— Aaron (@BobbyBigWheel) July 23, 2023

This is the same DNC-left-influencer who publicly told Jesse Singal to kill himself, now urging Chris Rufo's imprisonment.

This happens because their politics are utterly banal - they vote Dem like they're told and that's it - so spewing childish tripe is how they feel radical. https://t.co/eTtfrZksJB

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) July 27, 2023

Get a job

— Shelby (@ClassicShelb) July 27, 2023

that led me to spend 5 minutes in Greenwald's twitter feed. lol it must be like a fuckn teakettle inside his skull 24 hours a day

hes a mad guy

Shelby bodied him, pointing out he replies to literally every rando that criticizes him, often w/ a wall'o'text. he does spend an unusual amount of time (like Taibbi) replying to people who say he sucks.

tbf he used to be much worse about that just comically easy to provoke i dont know how he found the time

“I have a job” tweets Greenwald. “It’s telling people on Twitter that I have a job.”

back when he was a blogger he used to write multiple 1000+ word updates to all of his posts, i think hes just one of the fastest writers ever, maybe due to his training as a lawyer

You can write really fast when you never have to take in any new information or question yourself in any way and you're in permanent overreaction mode.

back when he was a blogger he used to write multiple 1000+ word updates to all of his posts, i think hes just one of the fastest writers ever, maybe due to his training as a lawyer

― lag∞n

^^^ AI-generated.

unperson otm

not saying glenns writing is great but it is really fast

he was made 2 blog

He's usually just repeating the same points endlessly. Not that hard to crank it out.

When I was a bigger partisan, the length of his posts wore me down. I was like, damn bro, get a room.

hes a lunatic lol

blogspot era greenwald was wilding

lol the whole thing with kulwin 'telling singal to kill himself' was kulwin saying something ambiguous that was obviously an implied 'kill yourself' but absolutely left room to deny it and did not say anything directly. basically just using singal's whole obnoxious pedantic schtick against him. so i can't believe greenwald would lie about kulwin like that, simply disgusting behaviour.

Do you ever feel the slightest twinge of self-recognition as a complete failure. Is there ever a moment that your brain sparks to life with the knowledge of your total uselessness, finally aware that there is only One Thing Left For You To Do :)

— noah kulwin (@nkulw) July 21, 2023

Not explicit. But definitely not nice.

someone told glenn that brevity is the soul of wit and now he’s in brazil as part of his witless protection deal

yeah that kulwin tweet (and what prompted it, and the ensuing back and forth) was one of the things that made me finally delete my twitter account. that and some asinine pile on on a screenwriter who (correctly, IMO) said that studios should learn alot from barbie being a blockbuster, as they had not really developed blockbuster films recently for female audiences, which somehow turned into her being accused of being a racist. I was like....I really don't need to spend my time reading this shit anymore. yet here I am reading it secondhand on ILX.

i support kulwin i think he knows whats up, the tweet is obvs very provocative but if you really think about it not unearned

I just thought "DNC influencer" was a hilarious tag for a guy who will eagerly go to bat for Kim Il-sung.

lag∞n otm

if i were still on twitter i might’ve directed worse sentiments at singal by now. he is that bad

Oh boy: https://www.racket.news/p/anthony-fauci-was-americas-warmup?r=5mz1&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

He’s going to skate on it, because upper-class America is now so deep into mass mental illness that it’s more likely to make a sex symbol of corruption than punish it

the brain-worms are feasting on this one

“Apart from a few conservative outlets, no one picked up the story”: The collected Writings of Matt Taibbi

you cannot be serious lmao pic.twitter.com/BMFS7zelLp

— brent is asking nicely for snow ☃️❄️ (@brent858) January 4, 2024

blue team looks strong

what are they gonna debate?

you'd think they wouldn't double down on krassenstein but that'd be your first mistake

greenwalds journey from guy who made his name ranting in great legalistic detail about bushs many crimes to joining alex jones in arguing that maybe an attempted coup isnt that bad is fucking wild lol

I'm going to hate myself for asking this but who is "Destiny"

some streamer guy who does video games and "serious thought"

ah the thinking man's gamer

he looks more concerned than his debate mates

Destiny Turns on the Debateo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRzPAJt0qTU

hour fifty two are you delusional

I read his wikipedia. my man Destiny, he does enjoy the occasional debate

watch Destiny DESTROY a small child who thinks he deserves candy

I cannot stop laughing

Is this a freemium game

Where to like have an extra good chance at winning the debate you gotta spend 5.99 and get bonus character Jacob Wohl

everyone involved in this deserves each other, truly

the important thing to know about destiny is that he streams himself doing 'debate prep' which is just him skimming wikipedia articles on the subject of an upcoming debate while being surprised or confused by the details, or just misunderstanding things. that is somehow something people watch seriously too?

Destiny is one of those "liberal" streamers who spends most of his time on stuff like defending Kyle Rittenhouse.

And raging against the BLM protests

Yeah I try to avoid learning anything about political streamers but the only thing I’ve seen from Destiny was a recent ‘joke’ about killing protesters who block streets.

I don't know about anything about this but from time to time I see a kind of shade against people who use Wikipedia as a source for things, which I think is unwarranted. I'll take the people skimming Wikipedia over Greenwald all day long, who likely things Wikipedia is run by the woke CIA

only original wikisources

These people stream for like 12 hours a day. When are they going to read books?

are there people who stream themselves reading books out loud, seems like it could work, have a cozy set curled up on the couch

twitchible

Matt Lech used to stream himself on Twitch playing video games while listening to audiobooks

Streamer pundits reading a book aloud on their feed would take like 4000 hours because they'd go all Nicholas Fehn twice every sentence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qup74Dv8Wds

There’s people who stream themselves WFH all day and shit

Why does he sound like a stoned Sublime fan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0-vcqcJCz8

Lol but those Vanguard guys are the biggest dorks. Infinite Jest on the bookshelf abd everything.

its a good book

Why does he sound like a stoned Sublime fan

fash is
what I got
I said remember that

I think it’s pretty clear Greenwald is the better of the two

greenwald is funny cause he wasted years of his life arguing with randos in his replies, taibbi is just kind of a dunce

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GV_ayJeWcAAvqhx?format=jpg&name=medium

Does that mean we can bankrupt him?

This is mildly mortifying given that I did something similar to this with Morbius and Obama

haa

I only announced after the fact though; I wasn’t trying to empty my bank account

Taibbi looks like a combo between Geoff Tate and a pooka from Dig Dug

he also seems to share the mental faculties of both based on his tweets lately.

every Taibbi tweet I see is just him acting defensive

watching Taibbi turn into the troll at school that violently kicks all of the kids who try to get on the merry go round with him has been equal parts nauseating and mesmerizing

someone needs to turn Taibbi into a gross word like Santorum

xxpost but now it seems he's taken up the post-left pose of "you guys are forcing me into supporting Trump"

Podcast interview (there's a transcript too) with Renée DiResta, formerly of the Stanford Internet Observatory, on how Taibbi connected with fascist 1Mike Benz and became his propagandist.
https://www.niskanencenter.org/the-online-misinformation-epidemic-with-renee-diresta/

From now through November (at least) we’ll be hearing daily that the Electoral College is racist and the Constitution a white male anachronism. pic.twitter.com/m84RkNoToU

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) September 1, 2024

yes and yes

Sadly we probably won't be hearing that daily.

I love paying $32,500 a year to attend a school with no dining facilities, no student governance, no right to protest, and an administration run out of a call center in Guatemala pic.twitter.com/TxmL8QCeK0

— David Klion (@DavidKlion) September 3, 2024

Love the scrappy framing here, three years ago we started out with a mere germ of an idea and the backing of a psychotic Silicon Valley funder worth $425 million like yeah that’s how rightwing ideological production works. All the time, yes https://t.co/2UdTAa66m9

— Adam Johnson (@adamjohnsonCHI) September 2, 2024

I majored in Media Bias with a minor in Race Realism

neither Taibbi nor Greenwald have anything to do with that mess, right? unless one jumped on when I wasn't paying attention

pretty wild there are a couple wizards on staff, though

yeah, probably belongs in Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

pretty wild there are a couple wizards on staff, though

unfortunately these gowns are standard issue

sleeves flap like wizard's vageene.

bari weiss is a taibbi-greenwald

I meant the really long greybeard

guy in the lower right is surely the mad monk of this endeavor

just as will stancil is a klein-yglesias

I accept this phenotypical categorization

bari weiss is a taibbi-greenwald

― lag∞n, Tuesday, September 3, 2024 12:13 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't think she was ever a left winger though.

neither was greenwald

the greenwald-taibbi type is the apostate, like David Horowitz or Hitchens

lol ok

he was always a weird libertarian, people liked him assumed he was on the team because he yelled about bush, but he was always coming at it from a pure civil liberties angle, which wasnt totally obvious because he took pains to conceal his politics but the evidence was there

Regardless, at one point his work helped get Lula's conviction overturned and now Greenwald calls Lula a censorious autocrat.

He coded more lefty than Bari Weiss ever did.

low bar

taibbi while holding more overtly liberal views was always fundamentally reactionary which made his heel turn easy, weiss tried to get fired from the nytimes to set the stage for her reveal which tbf didnt really require much political recalibration

but regardless the thing that unites them today is theyre fellow inhabitants of the intellectual dark web

xpost I don't know what to say. He was a regular on Democracy Now and then he became a regular on Tucker. Something changed.

not saying something didnt change just his politics were never lefty

The way I break it down is that Greenwald and Taibbi are New Jerseys and Bari Weiss is a Fairweather Johnson

ah very interesting

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXSY006XIAAxoVh?format=jpg&name=medium

intriguing, lag00n, not interesting

Chait's been a New York political columnist since 2011, he can use words.

lol true my bad xp

https://i.postimg.cc/DZPvkbMK/93b7us.jpg

p sure the first person i ever read dissecting taibbi's economic stance from the left (viz when MT was still in good standing at rolling stone and long before the intercept debacle lol) was noted pundit lag∞n, on these very boards

lol im a long time taibbi skeptic

"if you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by"

— noted pundit sun tzu

ancient wisdom

I couldn't see a post-left thread, but The Young Turks the latest to board the MAGA train, medias transformation into Trump PR continues

Leftist "The Young Turks" co-host and longtime anti-Trumper Cenk Uygur admitted that President-elect Donald Trump’s victory earlier this month brings him "optimism."

Uygur, who routinely railed against Trump for years on his progressive online talk show, posted to his X account on Friday that he had accepted Trump’s win because it meant that "the establishment" had been defeated.

"I've been trying to figure out why I'm more optimistic now than I was before the election, even though I was so against the guy who won. I know now. MAGA is not my mortal enemy (and neither is the extreme left). My mortal enemy is the establishment. And they have been defeated!" he wrote.

It feels like what happened to Taibbi/Greenwald is writ large across independent media. Right wing media supports Trump. Centrist media says both sides are crazy, so it makes sense to support Trump. Left wing media says both parties are the same but Trump is at least anti-establishment, which is actually the most important thing. And corporate media is flying down to mar-a-largo to smooth things over

If you cant beat them...

"I've been trying to figure out why I'm more optimistic now than I was before the election, even though I was so against the guy who won. I know now. MAGA is not my mortal enemy (and neither is the extreme left). My mortal enemy is the establishment. And they have been defeated!" he wrote.

Really though I just think this is bullshit "I wasn't wrong, I'm not a loser" cope from a guy I've never had any respect for and who for all his protestations to the contrary has clearly craved becoming part of the pundit class, but for the left, for the $$$ and for his ego.

TYT codes centrist liberal rather than left, right? Certainly I've never heard anything but scorn about them in the leftist spaces I visit...

I guess by "for the left" I mean more "not explicitly right-wing", though his "my mortal enemy is the establishment" stance doesn't feel very centrist

Yeah no it's a turn for sure but it's a turn to maga from the center imo.

A lot of centrist-branded media has been on the anti-establishment train for a while now too though, all roads lead to Trump

TYT is now in a flame war with Sam Seder and the Majority Report that is seemingly driving Cenk and Anna insane.

hey look it's infectious

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democratic-lawmaker-immediately-defects-to-gop-after-winning-re-election/ar-AA1vyCIh

xpost

I mean how fucking embarrassing is this? This woman used to do a Jacobin show with Michael Brooks.

forgot link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4INl-LYCoo

Čenk and Ana are multimillionaires living in SoCal and occasionally have opinions as such. They have also been professional media creatures for many years which tends to detach you from a lot of reality, even if your overall leanings are vaguely progressive/left-liberal.

Being rich media creatures, they also react badly when pushed back against a couple of their bad stances(particularly against homeless people) on social media.

I say this not to absolve any of what’re En route they’re doing, so much as giving it context.

Cenk's been a little shit about everything for years, notably people asked why his media company was not specifically but definitely named for people responsible for the Armenian genocide and it took him a while to admit it was real! Political soapboxing is almost always policy second and gesticulating at policy while laying on personality first, and it really only happens that people align with you on policy and not identity writ large, but identity as personality.

My mortal enemy is the establishment. And they have been defeated!" he wrote.

This is a negligible distance from "I don't care if it's stupid or harms me more than it helps, so long as it pwns the Libs!!!!"

i mean we all know this but also it just…isn’t true? like replacing career politicians with the wealthiest cabinet in history isn’t actually getting rid of any establishment. just very simple thinking, but then again, the person is a political podcaster so it checks out.

It depends how you (or they) define establishment. Another of these nebulous shape shifting terms used to mean different things by different people, but I think what a lot of people mean when they say anti-establishment, is actually anti-institution.

This allows Trump, Musk et al to be anti-establishment, in the way that they are anti-institution. Power should be contained in the body of the person, not the office. Faceless bureaucratic administrators are the problem, in Washington, in Brussels, in London, and also in HR at your job, and on the other end of the phone call you're currently 19th in line on.

The fault is not with the Tsar, the fault is with the Boyars. The Tsar isn't the establishment, the Boyars are the establishment.

Replacing career politicians with billionaires is moving power from Boyars with their pens and their papers and their rules and their regulations, with Tsars who are unencumbered with all that nonsense

That is obvious, and my point is that this sort of definition of “establishment” is frankly, stupid

This is the problem with definitions in general though! The ones that are used, for most of these things, are incorrect - but getting caught up on that is a fools errand. What matters is what people mean, whether they use the right definitions or not

And I think getting caught up on this is counter-productive, being technically correct but narratively wrong is always going to lead to missing the point

I don’t really agree that it’s a fool’s errand but ymmv

I don't see a lot of this "optimism" from Uygur or anyone else surviving the reality of Trump being president again for very long. Some people are somehow pretending it's not going to be a disaster, "maybe there'll be room for new ideas," etc. But of course it's going to be a disaster. The excuse here is that he won, so maybe the electorate knows something that all those smartypants scolds don't. But the electorate does not, in fact, know very much at all.

There's nowhere else for them to go until there's a new train to jump on. And just because it will be a disaster that doesn't necessarily make it Trumps fault

It will only be Trumps fault if the electorate decide it is. They don't need to know anything to have an opinion

But that doesn’t mean their opinion is valid or backed up by any sort of facts or evidence, or that you or I or anyone who isn’t a fucking moron has to respect it.

I don't have to respect it, and I don't respect it.

If I'm in a dinghy and everyone decides dinghy's go faster when you let the air out, then the air is going to get let out whether I respect it or not. I'll need more than facts and evidence to keep that air in

The ones that are used, for most of these things, are incorrect - but getting caught up on that is a fools errand.

What isn't a fool's errand in your opinion? From your posts I've gathered your MO is mostly doing ethnographic work in order to better understand the right wing mind, and I def don't think that's useless, but there's limitations to passive observation, no?

Facts and figures about the economy may have all been correct, facts and figures on crime, on immigration, they may call be correct, but so what? At the end of the day they really were eating the cats and the dogs and China is going to pay for it, and its just a better story and more watchable

yeah, the “the right tells better stories” argument, which i would argue is true! i just couldn’t figure out whether you were applauding the fact that people believe these stories or merely stating that they believe them and we have to come up with better ones on the left. this latter point is one i agree with.

Fools errand wasn't the best choice of words. What I mean is if someone says its rained all day every day and you say "actually to be clear its didnt rain on Thursday morning so you're wrong" you would be missing the point of what they're saying, and misreading the room

ie being right isn't enough, not even close!

or being far right

I used to make it a habit to check out cloacas like NRO to Understand the Conservative Mind but now I think their writers should die painfully.

i just couldn’t figure out whether you were applauding the fact that people believe these stories or merely stating that they believe them

Yes, being descriptive not normative, and definitely not applauding. I could have phrased better

I don't really think this is all that much to do with "the conservative mind". I used to, but now I think its much more generalised than that.

The internet has made us even stupider as a species

I think stupidity is a part of it, but also the way language works and the way we use flexible shortcuts, the literal truth of them often isn't meant. But we know what is really meant (tho can anyone get annoyed if someone else doesn't?). Bernie described himself as a socialist, but no one gets all "well actually" about it. Its not meant in a literal sense, and people implicitly understand that. Except when they don't.

You have to meet people where they are with the terms and framing they use

do you?

your entire shtick here is just like an exercise in rhetoric, right? i found most of what you've posted to be utterly vacuous.

TYT has earned one eyeroll after the next for as long as I've heard of them - being a midpoint between Democracy Now and MSNBC while run by half-wit egomaniacs limits your brand growth.

You love to see it:

Ranking Member Kamlager-Dove calls GOP witness Matt Taibbi a "serial sexual harasser" and enters articles into the congressional record about his history as a sex pest

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3llr2v5wu3s23

https://bsky.app/profile/nytpitchbot.bsky.social/post/3llprsvndns2p

uh oh, Taibbi was not pleased with the congresswoman's words

https://bsky.app/profile/noupside.bsky.social/post/3llwp5nouak2fp

About the videos: pic.twitter.com/TfkSyWowMJ

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) May 30, 2025

"I will continue the many prongs of my journalism."

The mighty prong of the free press will not go limp

Its so weird that he didnt have this reaction when Hunter Biden’s private sex stuff got leaked. Its not like Glenn to have double standards about this kind of stuff, hope he’s ok

Wouldn't wish this on anyone, though.

I'm always surprised when someone who takes on billionaires and governments still does anything sexual with a camera nearby. This one, with its findom/humiliation side, reminds me of Toobin as much as anything.

there is not enough money in this or any other world to make me want to voluntarily know anything about the contents of Glenn Greenwald's sex videos

yeah its objectively a bad thing to happen to anyone but definitely filing this under "couldnt happen to a nicer guy", plus ofc if the same material leaked of a politician or even another journo that he didnt like, he would be chaining himself to a cross on the white house lawn to protest the fact that CNN wasnt broadcasting the uncensored tape twice a day

I disagree with and more than disagree with so many things you've said and done over the years, Glenn. But this is 100% your own business. And I applaud and support your telling everyone that.

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) May 30, 2025

it is a weird situation in which he RT'd a frame from one of the videos first, then deleted it; and, given the described content of the video (self-abasement/findom), the longer post itself may be part of a dynamic? pretty odd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arbuX0CHLyU

damn u JCLC for making me consider the “about the videos” note is also part of the kink