2022's Oscar Nominees

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Poll Results

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TÁR; Todd Field, Alexandra Milchan, and Scott Lambert (Focus Features) 17
EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE; Daniel Kwan, Daniel Scheinert, and Jonathan Wang (A24) 9
THE FABELMANS; Kristie Macosko Krieger, Steven Spielberg, and Tony Kushner (Universal) 4
WOMEN TALKING; Dede Gardner, Jeremy Kleiner, and Frances McDormand (United Artists) 2
AVATAR: THE WAY OF WATER; James Cameron and Jon Landau (20th Century) 1
TRIANGLE OF SADNESS; Erik Hemmendorff and Philippe Bober (Neon) 1
ELVIS; Baz Luhrmann, Catherine Martin, Gail Berman, Patrick McCormick, and Schuyler Weiss (Warner Bros.) 0
THE BANSHEES OF INISHERIN; Graham Broadbent, Peter Czernin, and Martin McDonagh (Searchlight) 0
TOP GUN: MAVERICK; Tom Cruise, Christopher McQuarrie, David Ellison, and Jerry Bruckheimer (Paramount) 0
ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT; Malte Grunert (Netflix) 0


عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2023 13:26 (one year ago) link

The Fabelmans is my favorite movie in this lineup, but it sure feels like we're not going to get many more TÁRs in our moviegoing/Oscargoing lives.

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2023 13:30 (one year ago) link

Avatar's the only one I haven't watched.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2023 13:35 (one year ago) link

xp I've been somewhat heartened that people care about Tar at all, and that there's been so much discussion about it. The tweets and memes that talk about the character like she's Gritty or something are annoying, but by and large I've been surprised by the number of people who get what it's doing and are able to hang with it.

Chris L, Friday, 10 March 2023 13:41 (one year ago) link

Only saw four, Tár easily.

clemenza, Friday, 10 March 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link

I've seen five and don't LOVE any of them, but Tár is the most interesting one so I voted for that. (Of the ones I haven't seen, I'm most interested in Fabelmans and Women Talking.)

1. Tar
2. Fabelmans
3. Triangle of Sadness
4. Women Talking
5. Banshees of Inisherin
6. Everything Everywhere
7. Elvis

Did not see: Top Gun, Avatar, All Quiet

jaymc, Friday, 10 March 2023 14:52 (one year ago) link

Women Talking might actually be my least favorite after TOS.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2023 14:56 (one year ago) link

aftersun should’ve been nominated (and won)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:16 (one year ago) link

i’m seeing tár this afternoon and i have no idea when i'm seeing triangle of sadness but my favorite of the remainder is avatar

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:21 (one year ago) link

Tar for me (haven't seen western front, avatar, or women talking)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:23 (one year ago) link

Wow, I look forward to your responses, Brad.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:24 (one year ago) link

Women Talking might actually be my least favorite after TOS

It's Banshees and All Quiet as my least favorites, by some distance.

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link

See? I keep wishing All Quiet out of existence. You're right.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link

i will never see all quiet, i bet it's ok, but war movies that aren't come and see or patlabor 2 are fucking weak

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:37 (one year ago) link

The world could use a few more "weak" war movies imo, but All Quiet is more of a "nothing" war movie

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:39 (one year ago) link

I can't say I'm perplexed by the hatred directed toward Women Talking, but I found myself readily available to give it the benefit of the doubt

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link

only seen three, prob gonna watch banshees and fabelmans this weekend so i’ll save my vote.

the three i’ve seen (ava, tar, eeaao). i liked/loved them all tbh

avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link

I don't at all hate WT, it's just my least favorite Polley film.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link

loved women talking but i think a lot of its pleasures will be diminished when people are watching it on a streaming device; i was not annoyed at all with the color grading and was honestly kinda spellbound by it in the theater. the shot of the fists in the sky when they're learning to navigate by the stars... one of the more breathtaking images of the year imo

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link

also loved the misé-en-scene of it, how it mostly took place in a single location but would occasionally suddenly and violently break out of it, as if the context for the conversation they were having were leaking through traumatic fissures in the film

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link

It would've been Judith Ivey, not Claire Foy or Jessie Buckley, who would've been on my supporting actress ballot this year

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link

I've *only* seen Women Talking (meh). Well, and 50 mins of Everything Everywhere... which was enough for me to know that it was Not For Me. Will see The Fabelmans and maybe Tar once they hit my streaming services.

If Hollywood ends up surviving the IP age, the Avatar and Top Gun BP noms will be regarded as Airport/Towering Inferno-grade howlers.

niall horanburger (cryptosicko), Friday, 10 March 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link

scathing critique of two movies you did not watch

avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 March 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

I saw the originals. That was enough.

niall horanburger (cryptosicko), Friday, 10 March 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

This Top Gun is better and funnier than Hollywood's Burning.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link

avatar 2 is basically an anti-fandom film. any attempt to dig into the lore or figure out the characters deeper than trope level makes the experience worse. it's a movie, not a "cinematic universe"

avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link

i think this is good, to be clear

avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link

The Towering Inferno > Top Gun

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 11 March 2023 00:01 (one year ago) link

Fabelmans > Women Talking > Tàr > EEAAO > Banshees > Top Gun > Avatar > Elvis > Triangle

sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Saturday, 11 March 2023 01:22 (one year ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 12 March 2023 00:01 (one year ago) link

LOL after all that not even one vote for MAVERICK?

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 12 March 2023 01:18 (one year ago) link

oops, I used the wrong accent on Tár, none more acute

fleeting art that floats! (geoffreyess), Sunday, 12 March 2023 15:12 (one year ago) link

i think a lot of its pleasures will be diminished when people are watching it on a streaming device

We just watched it for the first time at home and we both found it riveting. It's kind of a quiet masterclass in framing and filming what is in essence mostly just a long discussion in a barn, because never did I find it particularly claustrophobic. Emotionally maybe, but not visually. Of the movies nominated, I liked it better than (for sure) Banshees and Everything Everywhere and Top Gun, maybe a bit more than Fabelmans (which has a lot of built-in stuff working in its favor). Haven't seen Tar yet, but that's likely the only one left that I will ever see.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 March 2023 22:16 (one year ago) link

been thinking about tár for two full days now

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 12 March 2023 22:21 (one year ago) link

watched again with new friends, there are so many moments, images, scenes etc to discuss

Dan S, Sunday, 12 March 2023 22:55 (one year ago) link

it will not win anything at tonight's Academy Awards

Dan S, Sunday, 12 March 2023 22:57 (one year ago) link

nor will The Fabelmans sadly

Dan S, Sunday, 12 March 2023 22:59 (one year ago) link

Women Talking might win the Adapted Screenplay award. The Fabelmans and Tár will go home empty-handed

Dan S, Sunday, 12 March 2023 23:18 (one year ago) link

brb going to walk into the ocean

Steven Spielberg's direction was bad. It was sentimental. He was working something out, clearly. I don't know what it was. The story wasn't that interesting. Alright, you made movies? Who doesn't make movies when they're a kid? This particular slice you decided to show us wasn't that compelling.... it felt indulgent, and he couldn't be objective about it. I thought it was not well cast, people were just playing types. I thought Michelle Williams was trying to be "Jewish Mama." Paul Dano seemed really lost to me — I don't know if he was intimidated by Spielberg. I thought he was great in Batman, but to play a regular guy was painful.

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 March 2023 00:35 (one year ago) link

should i talk about the show here? it’s already the least excruciating oscar’s i’ve seen in idk. super heartwarming. song performances are still really crucial bathroom break opportunities

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 13 March 2023 00:43 (one year ago) link

feel like i’m coming down with a case of oscar fever

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 13 March 2023 00:45 (one year ago) link

yeah, I'm loath to admit it

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:00 (one year ago) link

Brad and Alfred for next year’s hosts.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 March 2023 01:02 (one year ago) link

If I could host in Lydia Tar drag.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:03 (one year ago) link

“An Irish Goodbye” won, eh? Not entirely surprised.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 March 2023 01:07 (one year ago) link

then it left without telling anyone

avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:18 (one year ago) link

chugging tepid Guinness

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:19 (one year ago) link

should i talk about the show here? it’s already the least excruciating oscar’s i’ve seen in idk. super heartwarming. song performances are still really crucial bathroom break opportunities

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, March 12, 2023 8:43 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

riding on a wave of two great speeches from the supporting acting winners

call all destroyer, Monday, 13 March 2023 01:20 (one year ago) link

yes pretty much

the obligatory studio ads are sooo boring

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:23 (one year ago) link

i take back what i said about the song performances after eeaao and rrr

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:36 (one year ago) link

The Best International Feature Film goes to All Quiet on the Western Front, thus saving the audience the horror of that three-note score pounding us into hummus at an important point in the evening later.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:45 (one year ago) link

My opinion (and worth considerably less than what you paid for it): I'm more interested in the prospect of half-assed EEAAO copycats than half-assed Tár copycats.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:56 (one year ago) link

well yeah it would be a lot easier to half ass eeaao successfully

call all destroyer, Monday, 13 March 2023 02:02 (one year ago) link

in memory of tony scott ;_;

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 13 March 2023 02:03 (one year ago) link

if i die and lenny kravitz sings a piano tribute to me, kill me again

avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 March 2023 03:03 (one year ago) link

no albert pyun in the in memoriam fuck ‘em

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 13 March 2023 03:05 (one year ago) link

Excellent choice of having James Caan saying he didn't want his brother coming out with his dick in his hand.

clemenza, Monday, 13 March 2023 03:15 (one year ago) link

What's the last movie that won at least 3 of the 4 acting awards?

Nevermind, looked it up — the only others were Network and A Streetcar Named Desire.

My opinion (and worth considerably less than what you paid for it): I'm more interested in the prospect of half-assed EEAAO copycats than half-assed Tár copycats.

― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Sunday, March 12, 2023 3:56 PM bookmarkflaglink

well yeah it would be a lot easier to half ass eeaao successfully

― call all destroyer, Sunday, March 12, 2023 4:02 PM bookmarkflaglink

seems proper to assume eeaao is itself a half-assed copycat of a really good movie from another universe

difficult listening hour, Monday, 13 March 2023 03:55 (one year ago) link

We watched Fabelmans today as an Oscars warm-up, liked it about as much as I expected from what I had gleaned of it — which is to say, pretty well but with reservations.

So of the 6 of the movies on this list I've seen, my preference would go something like:

Tar — Fabelmans — Banshees — EEAAO — Avatar — Top Gun

All of which exist on the B-C section of my personal bell curve. Really B+ to C+, didn't love or hate any of them.

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least said, sergio mendes (sic), Monday, 13 March 2023 04:58 (one year ago) link

I haven’t seen All Quiet but I’m super stoked for Volker, he’s amazing and I’m thrilled

lurching toward (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 13 March 2023 05:02 (one year ago) link

Absolutely delighted for EEAO, Tár was fine but that was it, really.

k3vin k.
Posted: 7 March 2023 at 23:53:02
it’s so funny to me, I really hope it wins best picture tumblr is gonna have a rough time

Lol.

giant bat fucker (gyac), Monday, 13 March 2023 08:28 (one year ago) link

this was a decent oscars ceremony. not too long, some interesting speeches. only one of the songs was actively bad.

formerly abanana (dat), Monday, 13 March 2023 08:52 (one year ago) link

The boy the mole the fox and the horse winning an Oscar is an outrage.

a hallan shaker loon (dowd), Monday, 13 March 2023 11:35 (one year ago) link

It was by some considerable distance the worst film I saw nominated in any category

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Monday, 13 March 2023 11:54 (one year ago) link

Yeah as soon as I saw it I knew it would win and I also knew _My Year of Dicks_ was being robbed as a result.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 March 2023 13:09 (one year ago) link

Most of the wins last night wouldn't have been my choice -- I think the only ones I was actively rooting for were "Naatu Naatu" and Sarah Polley. EEAAO didn't connect with me and I can't help but be a little disappointed that Cate Blanchett lost for such a tour-de-force performance. That said, it's hard to begrudge at
its success, and I get why voters felt that Yeoh deserved it more. Maybe I just wish that a couple of its seven wins (and All Quiet's four wins, for that matter) went elsewhere? (Tar, The Fabelmans, and Banshees of Inisherin, all of which I liked to varying degrees, collectively got 22 nominations and zero wins.)

The ceremony itself was fine if a little unexciting. I still wish the Oscars didn't feel like they had to constantly apologize for the show’s length (the Super Bowl announcers don't). But it was nice to see the return of the traditional setup of a single host on an auditorium stage, and there wasn't too much dumb filler.

jaymc, Monday, 13 March 2023 13:39 (one year ago) link

Even with its stylized dullness, last night's ceremony was the best-paced in at least two decades.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 13:46 (one year ago) link

This wasn’t even Blanchett’s best losing performance and I am filing away JLC along with Judi Dench in 1998 ito “What the fuck were they thinking”? Personally extremely happy that Oscars have been shifting away from just acknowledging worthy studio dramas for a while now.

giant bat fucker (gyac), Monday, 13 March 2023 13:49 (one year ago) link

This wasn’t even Blanchett’s best losing performance

Respectfully disagree on that one

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:27 (one year ago) link

Also, I genuinely thought every living adult hated The Boy the Mole the etc. I'm astonished it managed the win but maybe AppleTV+ is truly the best campaign force on the scene right now aside from A24.

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:37 (one year ago) link

ceremony was fine, Kimmel exactly the kind of mildly funny, dull host it requires; no big experimental set pieces and therefore no risk of cringe. very little surprises IMO, I got about half my picks on my ballot correct even though I wanted Tar and Banshees to win some stuff, I had a feeling this was going to be a blow out.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:40 (one year ago) link

"Also, I genuinely thought every living adult hated The Boy the Mole the etc"

I haven't seen it, the only people I've seen say they hate it are here on ILX though.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:41 (one year ago) link

feel happy for all the winning actors tho quan is the only one i personally would’ve picked

idk how anyone can watch everything etc. and pick curtis over hsu as the most compelling supporting performance but that’s probably why i don’t have an academy membership

avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:44 (one year ago) link

She's the daughter of Hollywood royalty, the closest thing to an industry vet in the four categories, etc.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link

A Facebook friend just posted "I want to be friends with the entire cast and crew of EEAAO," which is otm. It felt like somebody's hipster-nerd brunch group made a movie and brought all their friends with them.

xp yeah i guess caring about that stuff comes with the academy membership card

avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link

EEAAO can keep its 7 awards but All Quiet needs to give at least two back imo

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:51 (one year ago) link

What surprises me is the number of people who thought Bassett would win; I guess you have to follow the precursor twaddle to realize she'd been knocked out weeks ago.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:51 (one year ago) link

Personally extremely happy that Oscars have been shifting away from just acknowledging worthy studio dramas for a while now.

Related to this, it was nice to see Curtis mention genre movies (and their fans) in her speech.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:54 (one year ago) link

i'll say that the EEAAO director's speech that culminated with "thanks for unlocking my genius" didn't go over very well with anyone I watched with (but people were talking a lot and we missed some of what he said prior to that)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link

also, they did a pretty good job of not playing anyone off on stage EXCEPT for the Indian filmmakers who did the Elephant film. Lame! They let that old dude who looked like Art Garfunkel ramble on forever after that.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 13 March 2023 15:00 (one year ago) link

"Also, I genuinely thought every living adult hated The Boy the Mole the etc"

I haven't seen it, the only people I've seen say they hate it are here on ILX though.

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, March 13, 2023 9:41 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

In THE BOY, THE MOLE, THE FOX, AND THE HORSE the mole asks the boy what he wants to be when he grows up and the boy says “…kind.” 🥴

— Richard Lawson (@rilaws) March 13, 2023

jaymc, Monday, 13 March 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link

Ke Huy Quan has been out of the picture for a while, but it kind of boggles the mind that Michelle Yeoh has only been hovering on the periphery of Hollywood for so long. Like, she should have gotten an Oscar for the motorcycle stunt in "Police Story 3."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 March 2023 15:06 (one year ago) link

Thought the Daniels’ speech about creativity and everyone’s potential & importance of collaboration was great tbh

giant bat fucker (gyac), Monday, 13 March 2023 15:08 (one year ago) link

I've never heard of "The Boy, The Mole," etc., what's objectionable about it? That tweet makes it sound lame, but it's a children's movie?

Chris L, Monday, 13 March 2023 15:25 (one year ago) link

It's all very well meaning and indeed based on a children's book, and the animation's quite nice. It's essentially a 'we choose our own families' story, an important enough message as ever. But much like "An Irish Goodbye" its sentiment is pretty sugary and 'well of course this was going to win' in feel, in combination with the BBC/Bad Robot/Apple/name actors factor. "My Year of Dicks" was easily, totally better all around.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 March 2023 15:33 (one year ago) link

Personally didn’t care much for anything about EEAAO except the incredible score, I’m a big fan, it was a technical marvel

I don’t know why The Whale exists and I don’t know why Darren Aronofsky is allowed to make movies

I’m sad Anne Heche wasn’t mentioned last night

lurching toward (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 13 March 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link

I quite liked Black Swan but aside from that I have derived no positive feelings from any Aronofsky films, I genuinely regret putting myself through Requiem For A Dream and mother! and suspect that Pi was only of interest because it looked like a Shinya Tsukamoto film and I imagined there was something I wasn't getting.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 13 March 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link

An update... despite my best efforts, I still have not been allowed into the Dolby Theater. I am thinking I may need to go elsewhere.

I heard my dear friend @ladygaga gave quite an emotional performance, though.https://t.co/6mu9UOIGY4

— Lydia Tár (@LydiaTarReal) March 13, 2023

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 15:54 (one year ago) link

I hadn't grokked that The Whale was also an A24 film — so basically a complete A24 sweep of the major categories. That's something.

My ratings:

Tar
The Fablemans
Avatar 2
Women Talking
Elvis
All Quiet on the Western Front
Top Gun Maverick
Everything Everywhere All At Once
The Banshees of Inisherin

didnt see: Triangle of Sadness

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Monday, 13 March 2023 16:26 (one year ago) link

the animation's quite nice.

the dedication to the fake rough-lines-left in style meant that the scene where a character gets caught in a wire was visually incomprehensible because the "loose" swirly lines remained after he was ostensibly freed from the "wire" swirly lines. as ill-thought, insultingly tokenistic and dullardly as the script.

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Monday, 13 March 2023 16:46 (one year ago) link

As much as I can not countenance a Marvel movie winning anything, much less an acting award, seeing Angela Bassett taking that loss seemingly pretty hard wasn't a highlight of the night

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 13 March 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link

I can't really comment because I haven't seen the movie, but I have seen other Marvel movies, so am I right in guessing that her nomination was based on like, one big somber, melodramatic monologue?

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 13 March 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link

having worked covering the video game industry i'm friends w/a not insignificant number of younger gen x/older millennial asian men on FB and IG who identified as somewhat nerdy in school and their extreme joy at Ke Huy Quan's win has been extremely touching.

Yeah, it seems to be an incredibly millennial film to me.

giant bat fucker (gyac), Monday, 13 March 2023 17:51 (one year ago) link

i don't know why angela bassett would have even thought she had a chance, frankly; she's in the movie for 10 minutes; yeah she gave a good speech and she's amazing in basically everything, but this wasn't the role to peg her hopes on. Also I thought it was a bit odd they brought up Boseman again; I mean, yes, good actor, but he made like 2 movies and died two years ago. Are they going to talk about him every year? It looks like the Academy can't think of any other actors of color to put up as inspirational.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 13 March 2023 18:10 (one year ago) link

i did like that they left robert blake out of the in memorium and even made a joke about it

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 13 March 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link

brendan fraser needed a speech writer who could go a little lighter on the metaphors.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 13 March 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link

or eliminated them altogther

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link

He should have stepped to the podium and just sung this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkjTGCrLvAU

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 March 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link

Looking forward to Aronofsky's Moby Dick, with Brendan Fraser as both Ahab and the whale.

Pauly Shore as Ishmael

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 13 March 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link

Meryl Streep as Queequeg.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link

Call me Weasel

young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 13 March 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link

i don't know why angela bassett would have even thought she had a chance, frankly; she's in the movie for 10 minutes; yeah she gave a good speech and she's amazing in basically everything, but this wasn't the role to peg her hopes on.

Regardless of how deserving she was, she was widely considered the frontrunner a month ago after she won the Golden Globe and the Critics' Choice Award.

jaymc, Monday, 13 March 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link

Michelle Yeoh kicking ass in Yes Madam. Just ridiculous action. pic.twitter.com/Vb8zSkD4ZO

— Nick de Semlyen (@NickdeSemlyen) March 9, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 March 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link

If you haven't seen that film, do yourself a favor. (Currently on Criterion along with a host of other Yeoh highlights.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 March 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link

Call me Weasel

Wheeze! wheeze! wheeze! all the morning long; I wheezed that juice till I myself almost melted into it; I wheezed that juice till a strange sort of insanity came over me, and I found myself unwittingly wheezing my co-laborers' hands in it, mistaking their hands for the gentle globules.... Come; let us wheeze hands all round; nay, let us all wheeze ourselves into each other; let us wheeze ourselves universally into the very juice and sperm of kindness.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 13 March 2023 18:42 (one year ago) link

I needed a new display name.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 18:43 (one year ago) link

i lit a pauly shore show a couple months ago and the last what felt like seventeen hours of it were just describing porn

difficult listening hour, Monday, 13 March 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link

I can't see myself ever watching The Whale but this comment on Fraser from Alfred's liveblog last night is spot on: "I like him. He had it in him to be the Joel McCrea of his generation, a solid actor doomed to being perpetually overlooked."

We tuned into the last hour of the show last night and my husband, who doesn't follow current cinema at all, was pleased that "two people (he) loved in the 90s" won the top acting awards.

niall horanburger (cryptosicko), Monday, 13 March 2023 18:52 (one year ago) link

Weird how it’s Angela Bassett who’s considered undeserving. The screentime of the cast, A24 shouldn’t have submitted JLC for consideration! It was a strong category and hers must have been the weakest role nominated. Yeah I know how the Oscars work, I’m also saying it remains shit.

Screen time data for Everything Everywhere All at Once (2022)

- Michelle Yeoh - 1:35:16 (68.38%)
- Ke Huy Quan - 58:33 (42.03%)
- Stephanie Hsu - 42:18 (30.36%)
- James Hong - 19:37 (14.08%)
- Jamie Lee Curtis - 17:15 (12.38%) pic.twitter.com/3ufMsCFdfQ

— Matthew Stewart (@MatthewAStewart) July 20, 2022

giant bat fucker (gyac), Monday, 13 March 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

and sometimes it's the other way around: an obvious supporting actor promoted to the main category because the studio/their agent insists.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link

when you break down the times like that tbh it's curtis and hong who seem like supporting and everyone else who seems like a lead (hsu in a grey area but she certainly seems like a lead when you watch it).

agree that this was not the role to give JLC her lifetime achievement oscar for. have always rly loved JLC tho like since i was five lol so

difficult listening hour, Monday, 13 March 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link

she should've gotten nods for Halloween, A Fish Called Wanda, Freaky Friday...

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link

just so inspired in freaky friday

the person it woulda been nice to give a career-acknowledging oscar to for this as long as we're doing that is james hong; what a legend.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 13 March 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

Found a 2016 article called something like "30 great actors that have never been Oscar nominated," and JLC was on that list with this bit at the end of her blurb:

Will It Happen? Her current roster makes it look unlikely, but Curtis is one eye-catching-role-in-a-breakout-indie away from a career renaissance, should she want it.

So ... yeah.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 March 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link

Shd give more honorary oscars tbh it’s nice to see good old actors be happy

They really left Paul Sorvino off the tribute reel? wtf

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link

Oh -- would also have been cool with a nod for Knives Out.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link

They really left Paul Sorvino off the tribute reel? wtf

― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, March 13, 2023 3:22 PM

Honestly they should just license the ones TCM makes.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link

Also Anne heche someone said upthread, the Oscars are still always bad

piedro àlamodevar (wins), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link

Closing the montage with a QR code to see more was an especially crass touch.

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link

xps to dlh yeah I get it. I think a problem - and again, not remotely claiming this is a new or unknown thing - with the “ok you’ve been solid here’s an Oscar for your role in this good film” thing is that you can see how the Academy’s tastes have shifted a bit and a lot of the stuff that they previously overlooked in the past may have been nominated this year. Not quite so much of a shift - I mean, Nope was my film of the year & it was nowhere, but a film like EEAAO winning makes me wonder if the 2023 Academy would have recognised The Matrix or Blade Runner in non-technical categories?

Eric H btw is otm re Angela Bassett. The acting categories ended up exactly the same as the Screen Actors Guild awards, but Angela Bassett did win a Golden Globe, iirc the first for a Marvel role, and has been nominated for, what, two Oscars in her whole almost forty years of work? I mean, if you’re going to give a lifetime achievement undeserved Oscar …?

Similarly, Tracer Hand made an excellent point upthread (or maybe in the EEAAO thread?) re Stephanie Hsu & her likelihood of winning in the future. What was that statistic? Second time in 95 years for a lead role? I’d be annoyed too, and perhaps worth thinking of the relative rarity of these prestige roles for Black and Asian actors. It would be nice if we could just enjoy Yeoh winning for a stellar performance in a deeply weird performance as just that, instead of her having to be the first.

giant bat fucker (gyac), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link

Hsu was the best young woman I've seen in a film since Lady Bird and I wish retroactively that she'd have been in it.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link

Strange to think that's good news when this sucker used to get upwards of 40 million on the regular.

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link

we did it we saved oscar

I'm not sure why the article is calling it an increase. 2022 viewership was 16.6 million.

jmm, Monday, 13 March 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link

ON or 7 or 28?

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Monday, 13 March 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link

not a single vote for Banshees??? what I would have voted had I seen this poll when it was up

history will vindicate me

Murgatroid, Monday, 13 March 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link

JLC is cool, i don't have a problem w/her winning. she's been great in a lot of roles over the years, and probably should give an honorary mention to True Lies, which is a problematic flick and her role doesn't deviate from that and is a bit unbelievable, but she commits to it fully and you forget how ridiculous the character is in a lot of ways. i bet this was a close vote though, i kinda thought kerry condon might sneak thru but it was probably tough to get past two icons.

omar little, Monday, 13 March 2023 21:53 (one year ago) link

She was the second best supporting actress in her own film but sure.

giant bat fucker (gyac), Monday, 13 March 2023 22:22 (one year ago) link

There appear to be three categories for acting wins - 1) an astonishing performance, 2) being entirely of the moment, or 3) having a legacy or being overdue - as well as sometimes a combination of the three.

Stephanie Hsu is fantastic in EEAAO, but Curtis winning seems fine to me. She's memorable as always and it is a legacy award. I would have liked to see Farrell win best actor, not just as a legacy but for his performance, but am happy that Brendan Fraser won and not Austin Butler for yet another mimicry of a music star in a dumb biopic

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:09 (one year ago) link

In the International Film category I still haven't seen Close, which is a film about a mama's boy that I've been looking forward to for months, starring Eden Dembrine and Émilie Dequenne (best actress winner in the Palme D'Or-winning film from 1999, Rosetta).

All Quiet was the inevitable winner though

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:35 (one year ago) link

Close earned several queasy reviews from writers I respect. Their consistency impressed me: a strong first half, a calamitous second half.

I'm going to rent it this week.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:44 (one year ago) link

I saw the reviews too, but am skeptical about those perspectives and am more forgiving of sentiment than most of you are here. I'm curious to read what you think about it.

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:52 (one year ago) link

how are you defining "sentiment"?

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:58 (one year ago) link

Saw someone point out that the In Memoriam omitted Charlbi Dean, who obviously wasn't a Hollywood legend but was the female lead in one of this year's Best Picture nominees (Triangle of Sadness).

jaymc, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:01 (one year ago) link

xp As tenderness, wistfulness, nostalgia, and sadness that is even maybe self-indulgent - I love it all. I'm not predicting what the film will be about since I haven't seen it

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:03 (one year ago) link

just saw that about Charbli Dean, awful

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:05 (one year ago) link

xp As tenderness, wistfulness, nostalgia, and sadness that is even maybe self-indulgent - I love it all. I'm not predicting what the film will be about since I haven't seen it

― Dan S

hey, many of us loved Benediction and The Fabelmans. See our backs? Pat them.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:08 (one year ago) link

you asked what I meant by sentiment, I gave an answer. I'm not going to pat your backs

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:13 (one year ago) link

not sure why I post here honestly

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:21 (one year ago) link

lol dude I'm teasing you

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:22 (one year ago) link

Never, ever assume longtime posters are out to get anyone, especially when the anyone posts in good faith.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:22 (one year ago) link

ok, I understand

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:25 (one year ago) link

I really liked Paul Rogers' speech when he won for editing Everything Everywhere, it was perfect

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:39 (one year ago) link

Guess the figures I linked above weren’t correct

https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/2023-oscar-ratings-academy-awards-audience-1235550070/amp/

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 02:23 (one year ago) link

"more hits and slaps" helped

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 02:25 (one year ago) link

you asked what I meant by sentiment, I gave an answer. I'm not going to pat your backs

― Dan S, Tuesday, March 14, 2023 1:13 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

itt i learned that alfred has multiple backs

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 02:30 (one year ago) link

His and Jake Gyllenhaal's iirc

jaymc, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 02:33 (one year ago) link

Finally saw "Tar." I'd managed to remain totally spoiler free, not that there is really much to spoil beyond the excellent writing, direction and acting. A great, quietly original all-around creation.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 March 2023 04:00 (one year ago) link

itt i learned that alfred has multiple backs

― ꙮ (map)

a Negroni for each back

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 March 2023 09:27 (one year ago) link

disagree with Thierry. all of the Academy rules seem arbitrary, but they kind of make sense.

I can see wanting to limit International Feature Film nominees to foreign language cinema

and agree that Best Picture and Best Director nominees should be open to all films from every language and culture

Dan S, Sunday, 9 April 2023 01:53 (one year ago) link

Honestly, if there aren't at least 12 foreign language performances up for the acting awards, I call foul

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Sunday, 9 April 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link

(In any given year, that is)

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Sunday, 9 April 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link

How can a non-American film win the Oscar for best film since it’s a ceremony in honor of American cinema?

I think I see a flaw in this argument

jmm, Sunday, 9 April 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

https://variety.com/2023/film/awards/angela-bassett-mel-brooks-governors-awards-honorary-oscars-1235654578/

Angela Bassett, Mel Brooks and Carol Littleton will receive honorary Oscars at this year’s Governors Awards, announced by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. In addition, the Sundance Institute’s Michelle Satter will receive the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Awards. The four statuettes will be presented at the 14th annual ceremony on Saturday, Nov. 18, 2023, in Los Angeles.

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 26 June 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link


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