The only social media app I like is the one where people talk endlessly about the other social media apps I don't like and am not on
― rob, Friday, 14 July 2023 13:53 (ten months ago) link
Still to use my code.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 July 2023 13:54 (ten months ago) link
lol, that's maybe the smartest way to bluesky
― rob, Friday, 14 July 2023 13:57 (ten months ago) link
sell it on ebay
I'm @rooob.bsky.social btw, not that I post really
― rob, Friday, 14 July 2023 13:58 (ten months ago) link
rhymes with brewski
― butch wig (diamonddave85), Friday, 14 July 2023 14:00 (ten months ago) link
another for the pro column
― rob, Friday, 14 July 2023 14:03 (ten months ago) link
Anyone who pronounces it like that around me is going to get a restraining order.
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Friday, 14 July 2023 14:31 (ten months ago) link
ello
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 14 July 2023 15:45 (ten months ago) link
Bluesguy
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Friday, 14 July 2023 16:11 (ten months ago) link
not a bad idea, Eazy
― rob, Friday, 14 July 2023 16:15 (ten months ago) link
Folks, you're all doing it wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-36ijwAQUs
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 July 2023 16:18 (ten months ago) link
So if someone were to try to extract user data from this new service, would that be
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/MidnightOil_BlueSkyMining.jpg
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Friday, 14 July 2023 16:30 (ten months ago) link
seems like the owners/employees have basically been bullied off their own platform. apart from one SWE they've completely stopped posting. truly outstanding effort from the userbase.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 14 July 2023 19:17 (ten months ago) link
what a world
― lag∞n, Friday, 14 July 2023 19:18 (ten months ago) link
abolitionism starts here
― rob, Friday, 14 July 2023 20:03 (ten months ago) link
Bluesky: It died in Beta
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Friday, 14 July 2023 20:04 (ten months ago) link
"seems like the owners/employees have basically been bullied off their own platform."
Just joined 😂
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 July 2023 20:24 (ten months ago) link
ha i thought that would catch your eye.
leadership here is as sus as threads or twitter. like jack, they seem to share a lot of intellectual heritage with thiel, although i'm sure they'd deny it (60s bay area libertarianism, girard, etc.) but with burning man and shitposting (as an alibi for race wierdness) and some weird fash-adjacent stuff about nature.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 14 July 2023 20:40 (ten months ago) link
grasscist
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Friday, 14 July 2023 20:41 (ten months ago) link
seems like the owners/employees have basically been bullied off their own platform. apart from one SWE they've completely stopped posting. truly outstanding effort from the userbase.― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 14 July 2023 19:17 (one hour ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 14 July 2023 19:17 (one hour ago) link
tbh this is very funny
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 14 July 2023 20:44 (ten months ago) link
dril's second skeet was good: "im going on a posting strike from here until the.y make every one not racist or whatever"
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 14 July 2023 20:47 (ten months ago) link
first post from someone other than that one poor SWE who had to ship the n-word regex. replies are good. https://bsky.app/profile/why.bsky.team/post/3k2izrg6k6o2j.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 14 July 2023 20:53 (ten months ago) link
someone normal should make an app imo
― lag∞n, Friday, 14 July 2023 21:23 (ten months ago) link
first post from someone other than that one poor SWE who had to ship the n-word regex. replies are good. https://bsky.app/profile/why.bsky.team/post/3k2izrg6k6o2j🕸.
― Gerard Grisey Funk (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 14 July 2023 21:28 (ten months ago) link
lmao the mods are being called out and people are snitch tagging the investors on ... linkedin!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 14 July 2023 21:29 (ten months ago) link
no
i mean someone else can, but i can't be bothered to be honest. no offence. it's very silly.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 14 July 2023 21:30 (ten months ago) link
its all fun and games til you bring the beef to linkedin
― lag∞n, Friday, 14 July 2023 21:34 (ten months ago) link
ahh brilliant, hide it where no one will look
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 July 2023 21:36 (ten months ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, July 14, 2023 3:17 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
'scuse me, while I diss bluesky.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 14 July 2023 21:39 (ten months ago) link
Not a screenshot but: the post is from a bsky team technical advisor that says “Some of that Blue.” with a photo of a blue sky with which is just not remotely helpful.
― KPH, Friday, 14 July 2023 21:39 (ten months ago) link
To you, no. If you consider that some people reading might be colour-blind, though...
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 14 July 2023 21:42 (ten months ago) link
I almost went back to LiveJournal after seeing my posts from the 2000s and missing writing in paraphernalia, and then I found it was owned by Russians and…subject to Russian law.
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Friday, 14 July 2023 21:51 (ten months ago) link
(Also am in Bluesky and it feels like me and Albini and Parton Oswalt hanging out in a Delta Skylounge.)
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Friday, 14 July 2023 21:52 (ten months ago) link
Xp: ha well they did include an alt text so that’s good
― KPH, Friday, 14 July 2023 21:55 (ten months ago) link
TIL blueski was (probably) a pun
― or something, Friday, 14 July 2023 23:16 (ten months ago) link
Holy SHIT you are not ready for this pic.twitter.com/1wMD4Jq9Kp— Lauren McKenzie (@TheMcKenziest) July 14, 2023
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Saturday, 15 July 2023 12:47 (ten months ago) link
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Friday, July 14, 2023 11:11 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Lol
I joined ello but lord only knows when I was last on it or if the account still exists
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 15 July 2023 13:36 (ten months ago) link
i was @lebronjames on ello
― lag∞n, Saturday, 15 July 2023 14:07 (ten months ago) link
in case anyone wants an invite code
bsky-social-ufxqd-dszmobsky-social-2biwx-cqxgy
― that's not my post, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 01:46 (ten months ago) link
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
― Cow_Art, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 01:54 (ten months ago) link
both taken
― formerly abanana (dat), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 02:01 (ten months ago) link
I'm on there now as chants.bsky.social. Haven't found very many people to follow on there, idk.
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 02:04 (ten months ago) link
"I joined ello but lord only knows when I was last on it or if the account still exists"
the app still exists, so I assume the network does (I think I wound up deleting it, but I would occasionaly open it up as recently as a year ago and see just random images). Confusingly Ello is also now the name of a more high profile reading app that has nothing to do with old Ello.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 02:05 (ten months ago) link
If anyone wants to follow me on there I’m matthewbalaam.bsky.social - I won’t post much except the odd link to a radioshow or gig probably.
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 08:11 (ten months ago) link
bluesky cant hope to compete with twitter until they get video so you can watch the cop eat shit on the slide
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 00:48 (ten months ago) link
Have atthem:
bsky-social-w77g6-ysjchbsky-social-zsizl-emv5ibsky-social-efm3v-h6eehbsky-social-7ch5w-6blgf
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 3 August 2023 06:42 (nine months ago) link
Thanks!
― Roz, Thursday, 3 August 2023 07:07 (nine months ago) link
thanks!
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 3 August 2023 07:33 (nine months ago) link
all taken (not by me, alas)
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Thursday, 3 August 2023 09:46 (nine months ago) link
I’m on there, easy enough to find.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 August 2023 12:49 (nine months ago) link
I've got to keep an eye out for the next invite dump!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 August 2023 12:50 (nine months ago) link
Voilà
bsky-social-jl33a-obpxgbsky-social-q5c6l-q6owc
― rob, Thursday, 3 August 2023 12:57 (nine months ago) link
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Thursday, 3 August 2023 13:02 (nine months ago) link
welcome :)
― rob, Thursday, 3 August 2023 13:09 (nine months ago) link
if anybody needs one just DM me on slack or twitter, I've got 5
― 龜, Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:42 (nine months ago) link
will do ASAP, I'm stuck somewhere else right now. are you easy to find on Twitter?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:49 (nine months ago) link
yeah I'm @smashedmcdouble
or I can just ilxmail you if yours works josh
― 龜, Thursday, 3 August 2023 15:07 (nine months ago) link
that would be great, thanks! I am pretty sure my Gmail address is in my profile.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 August 2023 15:37 (nine months ago) link
So jklein04 AT gmail.com. Thanks again! (Looks like I couldn't DM you on twitter if I wanted to without twitter blue)
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 August 2023 15:57 (nine months ago) link
I just used the ilxmail interface
― 龜, Thursday, 3 August 2023 15:57 (nine months ago) link
Got it, thanks! Will start porting over twitter peeps and whatnot later today. Now I need to figure out how to change my ilxmail, lol.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 August 2023 17:42 (nine months ago) link
yeah i don't want to post mine here because you're nominally repsonsible for who you invite and people get banned if their invites misbehave but i have a few. ilxmail me if you need one.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 August 2023 17:53 (nine months ago) link
I'm not even sure how my ilxmail works. Is that just the address I used to originally sign up/register? My login ID? How do I change that without re-registering?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 August 2023 21:22 (nine months ago) link
https://ilxor.com/ILX/Pages/editprofile.jsp ?
― butch wig (diamonddave85), Thursday, 3 August 2023 21:42 (nine months ago) link
No, that didn't do it. When I send an email (to myself) through that portal, by clicking on my screen name, it just sends to my original login ID, which is an old email address. But when I try to change that old login address to a new login address, my current email, it logs me out, because it no longer matches the one associated with the password. Hmm.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 August 2023 21:48 (nine months ago) link
who do we follow on bluesky?
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 4 August 2023 07:23 (nine months ago) link
everybody cool follows tracerhand iirc
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 5 August 2023 00:30 (nine months ago) link
thats right
― mookieproof, Saturday, 5 August 2023 01:08 (nine months ago) link
I'm not nominally responsible enough to give a fuck about this platform or any of the people on it, anything online where you need invites to access it is for wankers, apart from private torrent sites - I don't make the rules.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 5 August 2023 01:44 (nine months ago) link
I'd never lower myself to ask for a fucking invite code and then get precious about who you are going to give them to. Ohh can't have any riff raff here. It's a site for snobby supercilious wankers - lol, even worse than this one!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 5 August 2023 01:51 (nine months ago) link
aww
― mookieproof, Saturday, 5 August 2023 02:15 (nine months ago) link
Haha, funny posts. To be fair to them though, it costs a lot of money and takes a lot of infrastructure for a site like Twitter/Bluesky to run – as it is whenever there is a flood of new people the site starts to stop loading posts etc.
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 5 August 2023 08:22 (nine months ago) link
Yeah, it is notably sluggish at the best of times.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 5 August 2023 12:13 (nine months ago) link
Lotta placeholder accounts there right now with virtually no activity (including Tracer's, lol). I often can't tell if they are squatters trying to steal/scam the handle or legit mirrors of their twitter accounts.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 August 2023 14:43 (nine months ago) link
I don't know anything about this app other than I agree it is pronounced like brewski
― Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Saturday, 5 August 2023 14:48 (nine months ago) link
i'm still trying to "find my voice" josh
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 5 August 2023 15:58 (nine months ago) link
also need to settle on my bio, something like "Flâneur. Appreciator of gin. #fuck2017."
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 5 August 2023 16:02 (nine months ago) link
ok, so a few months back i added my email to the waiting list.i got my code today so signed up.how is it within a few hours i have several followers that i have no connection with !? i mean, i have done no promo.is there something about this place that i have yet to understand, or is it cos the first thing i did was follow ned ?!
― mark e, Sunday, 6 August 2023 20:00 (nine months ago) link
There's probably a bunch of possibilities, but most likely is that someone from those accounts is just friending other people's follower list. It's a little less mysterious when you follow an account that posts about something specific, like if you follow a Nat'l Park account and suddenly you have five new follower accounts that are into parks, travel, etc.
― ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Sunday, 6 August 2023 20:32 (nine months ago) link
Did you post yet? There are a bunch of feeds of peoples first posts that real users glance at. If you didn’t post it’s probably just bots. The network is small enough that there are still accounts that follow spam every newly created account.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 7 August 2023 00:42 (nine months ago) link
A super kind ilxor threw me an invite—right here on The Aorta, WXOR! But a scammy scammer stoled it afores i could snag it, and ay, no way i’m axing y’all again. I can’t do with that nonsense and guilt.But someday I’ll git there, an if i ask to follow u, pls folla back ha
― toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Monday, 7 August 2023 02:51 (nine months ago) link
bsky-social-xbnsk-jzcyl
― with hidden noise, Monday, 7 August 2023 03:31 (nine months ago) link
https://bsky.app/profile/restaurant-bot.bsky.social
lagoon, this not you?
― rob, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 14:31 (nine months ago) link
nope, they do credit me in the description tho lol, more power to em good to see the capital snack bar again
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 14:48 (nine months ago) link
Does anyone want an invite still? Here's a codebsky-social-ncfr6-pgyzh
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 17:12 (nine months ago) link
Claimed. Thanks, Alba!
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 17:18 (nine months ago) link
Code: bsky-social-s3rme-hua2n
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Friday, 11 August 2023 16:40 (nine months ago) link
thx Jordan
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 11 August 2023 16:49 (nine months ago) link
bsky-social-tkdte-hji7y
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Sunday, 13 August 2023 18:56 (nine months ago) link
hello I am on this app now
if you get a new follower it may be me
― mh, Monday, 14 August 2023 21:01 (nine months ago) link
I also made an account at centuriesofsound . bsky . socialbecause why not eh?
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 August 2023 21:14 (nine months ago) link
mh what's your handle dawg
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 09:43 (nine months ago) link
firstnamelastname
― mh, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 12:33 (nine months ago) link
Invite:
bsky-social-eotk7-243jh
― Cow_Art, Friday, 18 August 2023 17:03 (nine months ago) link
I kind of forgot that I signed up to the waiting list for this until I got my invite just now, I guess I'm on this now. I'm @eatmorefish, I am unlikely to post much or at all, so not much point following me I guess.
This is ridiculously slow right now, nearly unusable. Will check back in a couple of days or weeks.
― silverfish, Friday, 18 August 2023 18:19 (nine months ago) link
yeah it's even slower than usual today
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 18 August 2023 18:22 (nine months ago) link
The theory is that a lot of people are trying to shift over because Twitter is going to do away with the block function.
― Cow_Art, Friday, 18 August 2023 19:11 (nine months ago) link
some more invite codes
bsky-social-d73rk-rrf55bsky-social-nimxr-t7o2n
site seems to be working fine atm
― that's not my post, Friday, 18 August 2023 19:48 (nine months ago) link
It ALWAYS seems slow.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 19 August 2023 05:20 (nine months ago) link
Can someone flick one to me on webmail? I think mine still works.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 19 August 2023 06:01 (nine months ago) link
I dm'ed you at facespace
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 19 August 2023 13:08 (nine months ago) link
i am dubdobdee if you can bear to subject yrself to my usual nonsense
― mark s, Saturday, 19 August 2023 13:17 (nine months ago) link
I got it JF thanks! xx
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 19 August 2023 13:35 (nine months ago) link
if there are any going spare i’ll take one via ilx mail as well. enough people over there now to make it slightly annoying. plus it’s of great importance to sustaining the fizzles brand obv.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 20 August 2023 13:39 (nine months ago) link
ilxmailed you Fizzles
― rob, Sunday, 20 August 2023 14:17 (nine months ago) link
Sent one
I have a couple more going too.
xp
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 August 2023 14:18 (nine months ago) link
just saw a bunch of people responding to a fake CBC News image, even labelled as such in the alt text. I think this app might have what it takes after all
― rob, Sunday, 20 August 2023 14:19 (nine months ago) link
thanks both!
― Fizzles, Sunday, 20 August 2023 14:21 (nine months ago) link
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 19 August 2023 bookmarkflaglink
Especially when Musk announces a new feature lol
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 August 2023 14:21 (nine months ago) link
That might be the biggest problem with Bluesky, we'll see..
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 August 2023 14:22 (nine months ago) link
A post I read on bk just now is coming up with a figure of 600k so I am not sure how feasible it is.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 August 2023 14:30 (nine months ago) link
i am on here and im enjoying the skeets
― oatly carmichael (m bison), Sunday, 20 August 2023 14:43 (nine months ago) link
imo network effects of twitter are too strong (and generally useful/valuable obv), and they’ll prob gradually break down and deteriorate in crappy ways, but be v difficult to reconstitute elsewhere. things will just get generally worse in terms of social media usability. idk maybe that’s better in some way too. definitely need a place where high profile people say and do things that wouldn’t be out of place in a playground tho.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 20 August 2023 15:39 (nine months ago) link
yeah kinda doubt well ever see big posting sites like facebook-twitter-instagram again, insta has already turned into something more like tiktok or youtube a content consumption place
― lag∞n, Sunday, 20 August 2023 16:11 (nine months ago) link
it’s a shopping app
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 20 August 2023 19:45 (nine months ago) link
I tell you one thing I already love over twitter is the customisable feeds. I immediately snapped up the "onlyPosts" feed.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 20 August 2023 22:57 (nine months ago) link
if anyone has a spare code they’re willing to give me i’d be very appreciative. my ilx mail should still work, i think
― estela, Monday, 21 August 2023 00:52 (nine months ago) link
sent via ilx mail!
― mh, Monday, 21 August 2023 01:30 (nine months ago) link
thank you and mookie and lagoon so much<3mookie’s arrived earlier so that’s the one i used
― estela, Monday, 21 August 2023 02:45 (nine months ago) link
Hurrah! What's your handle?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 August 2023 03:17 (nine months ago) link
same old estelaisalei i already followed you :)
― estela, Monday, 21 August 2023 04:00 (nine months ago) link
https://maxread.substack.com/p/checking-in-on-twitter
What it lacks, and what might be hard to develop, is a large contingent of normal people who signed up to follow celebrities/politicians and stuck around to be a permanent disapproving audience and pool of intermittent guest stars.
this is true. so far the main characters have mainly been the mods, or moderation adjacent drama. the user base is too sophisticated. not enough willing bean dads.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 August 2023 19:15 (nine months ago) link
thank you and mookie and lagoon so much<3
mookie’s arrived earlier so that’s the one i used
― estela, Sunday, August 20, 2023 10:45 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
up 4 grabs bsky-social-h3t4k-f3fco
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 August 2023 19:27 (nine months ago) link
ooh i said i wouldnt beg but uhh
― juan epshteyn-- r.i.c.o., but suave tambien (Hunt3r), Monday, 21 August 2023 19:58 (nine months ago) link
ilxmailed u
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 August 2023 20:07 (nine months ago) link
Nice piece from Max (as always) and very funny how X (formerly known as twitter) hasn't broken. My experience is like, 90% the same as before Musk took over.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 August 2023 20:31 (nine months ago) link
Look at these codes I got
bsky-social-mgrnd-efchnbsky-social-oom7t-bv4nlbsky-social-i3gau-u73f6
― Chris L, Monday, 21 August 2023 20:44 (nine months ago) link
Thank you Chris L, I took the first of those codes.
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 21 August 2023 20:50 (nine months ago) link
bsky-social-nr63m-2duvo
― Cow_Art, Monday, 21 August 2023 21:10 (nine months ago) link
Just grabbed that one Cow_Art, thx!
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 21 August 2023 21:20 (nine months ago) link
Does anyone have a code to spare?
― Esteemed character actress (sunny successor), Monday, 21 August 2023 21:36 (nine months ago) link
bsky-social-pho3m-nqqqz
― Clay, Monday, 21 August 2023 21:41 (nine months ago) link
Happy to see more ILXors there (akm just joined), but definitely make it clear who you are if your handle isn't the one on here (I've got some mystery follows who I *might* know? But am not sure?)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 August 2023 22:02 (nine months ago) link
i'm @reesewitherspoon
― Clay, Monday, 21 August 2023 22:09 (nine months ago) link
caek, thanks kindly. are these time locked in any way? i just entered it and got an invite code not working msg.
― juan epshteyn-- r.i.c.o., but suave tambien (Hunt3r), Monday, 21 August 2023 22:14 (nine months ago) link
Thanks, Clay! Its not accepting it for me though. Getting the same message as Hunt3r.
― Esteemed character actress (sunny successor), Monday, 21 August 2023 22:18 (nine months ago) link
bsky-social-glrzr-oio7lbsky-social-c6dfa-muw2gbsky-social-hcwbz-elbgebsky-social-qmqmi-kbayvbsky-social-mv6r6-bfvjghere’s what I got, hope something works!
― Clay, Monday, 21 August 2023 22:23 (nine months ago) link
That probably means someone snaked the invite out from underneath you
― the new drip king (DJP), Monday, 21 August 2023 22:23 (nine months ago) link
Clay, I swiped the 4th in your series, figuring other faster fingers were at work. Thank you. and caek, thanks again for the email, i don't know why it didn't work-- nobody else has access to that email-- it's exists for me only as this weird ilxor legacy thing.
― juan epshteyn-- r.i.c.o., but suave tambien (Hunt3r), Monday, 21 August 2023 22:37 (nine months ago) link
i'm @foxshark fwiw. Have not yet followed or posted or done anything but I'll get around to it!
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 21 August 2023 22:42 (nine months ago) link
Grabbed the second one. Thanks, Clay! Now, what is this???
― Esteemed character actress (sunny successor), Monday, 21 August 2023 22:44 (nine months ago) link
im @kateisnotreal for anyone interested
― Esteemed character actress (sunny successor), Monday, 21 August 2023 22:45 (nine months ago) link
i'm @theporouscity.com
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Monday, 21 August 2023 22:48 (nine months ago) link
I used Clay's first invite code, thank you.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 21 August 2023 22:51 (nine months ago) link
or maybe it was Cow Art's, dunno.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 21 August 2023 22:52 (nine months ago) link
Sorry hunt3r, glad you’re in.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 00:41 (nine months ago) link
no worries. i’m @hunt3r
― aeronimo is mad againe (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 01:03 (nine months ago) link
caek who are u
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 01:42 (nine months ago) link
See I dont want a social media space where I can fawn over slebs and go "oooh! They replied to me!". I just want a damn space where I can sort posts by the people *I* want to read, at *my* pace, and occasionally sling a bon mot or grenade into the mix. Livejournal suite that purpose nicely. FB kind of did, but nowhere near as well. There's no one space anymore where I can catch up with what everyone I know is doing. I have to lurk on FB and Twatter and bsky and ILX and thanks to fucking algorithms I am STILL missing half of what people say and do because I'm not glued to it all 94/7 I am well aware this makes me sound like a cranky old lady version of AlexinNYC but hey whatever.
...maybe bsky will be a good "just my mates" place for at least a while?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 02:19 (nine months ago) link
Does have that vibe!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 02:21 (nine months ago) link
I just lurk as @veedonriver
― that's not my post, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 03:23 (nine months ago) link
ok so far blue sky is basically exactly twitter, but without a few people (but also no elon, and so far not as many political pundits though maybe I haven't stumbled on those yet). I imagine it's over for X as soon as this is no longer invite-only
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 05:47 (nine months ago) link
I am @writtenlow
― Chris L, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 07:42 (nine months ago) link
Would love a code if anyone wants to ilx mail me. I seem to miss them whenever someone puts them here.
― sell cigs to kids (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 08:02 (nine months ago) link
bsky-social-yxfcv-77ey4
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 08:23 (nine months ago) link
thanks! I'm @twentydollars.bsky.social
― sell cigs to kids (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 08:51 (nine months ago) link
Cool. I have two more:
bsky-social-qwusj-rqncybsky-social-jjzo5-bzjvd
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 09:33 (nine months ago) link
Thank-you, Alphie, that is me set up as braisedbywolves.
My views are largely the same as Trayce (particularly about Livejournal as an apex) but I might go a bit further - I don't think any part of the Hello magazine "see what the stars* really think" aspect of Twitter has done much good for either side.
*stars, politicians, VCs, pretty much anyone - and also of course regular folks who are suddenly the main figure.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 09:51 (nine months ago) link
I will make an exception for Kristin Hersh who has always been delightful on twitter tbh.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 11:26 (nine months ago) link
yeah I miss JCO and that's about it
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 14:10 (nine months ago) link
caek who are u― mookieproof, Monday, August 21, 2023 9:42 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― mookieproof, Monday, August 21, 2023 9:42 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
posting under my government name, just followed you.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 14:51 (nine months ago) link
Trayce hope holds true
― | (Latham Green), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 14:53 (nine months ago) link
ME ON TWITTER: Tired of these rightwing assholes. And now the feed is all broke to hell. What a shitshow, I'm done here.
ME ON BLUESKY: Are there any channels that aren't about furries.
― pplains, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 18:59 (nine months ago) link
paying it forward
bsky-social-ge4cz-mryqj
― Roz, Thursday, 24 August 2023 02:59 (nine months ago) link
@fuiud
― flopson, Thursday, 24 August 2023 05:32 (nine months ago) link
the signal to noise ratio on bluesky is very high, it's so nice to have no ads, no sponsored or promoted content, no real "official" accounts, no spam, just people posting. we'll see how long it lasts.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 24 August 2023 05:52 (nine months ago) link
Bluesky need art and book bots.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 August 2023 09:20 (nine months ago) link
I found one
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 August 2023 09:47 (nine months ago) link
Paul Cezanne
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 August 2023 09:48 (nine months ago) link
wow ilx deletes the link I pasted for some strange reason
One thing I like about bluesky is the ability to add customised algorithmic feeds that suit your interests. However, I haven't managed to find any that actually do suit my interests.
― Alba, Thursday, 24 August 2023 09:55 (nine months ago) link
anyone got a code to spare? this looks interesting
― tremolo, Thursday, 24 August 2023 10:50 (nine months ago) link
another code: bsky-social-b5f7l-mdoyu
― that's not my post, Thursday, 24 August 2023 14:44 (nine months ago) link
I've been using and enjoying this social network for a couple of days now, actually works pretty well now. Just went through this thread and added most of you guys.
― silverfish, Thursday, 24 August 2023 15:57 (nine months ago) link
bsky-social-dkw8h-wnn2h
― Grandall Flange (wins), Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:20 (nine months ago) link
what do i do to get invite codes to give back?
― you need magical thinking ayo my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:29 (nine months ago) link
wait
― mark s, Friday, 25 August 2023 14:48 (nine months ago) link
A few more:
bsky-social-uuwhf-drr7cbsky-social-ddwfe-auyqabsky-social-53t3v-43orj
Can someone smarter than me make a Bluesky list for ILX? I’m al✧✧✧@b✧✧✧.soc✧✧✧.
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:51 (nine months ago) link
lol @allen.bsky.social
encountered my first "you're homophobic" "no you're antiblack" dustup on blusky, just like twitter! hastily unfollowed everyone involved in this dumb drama centered around a nobody weirdo. Blusky is going to have to try harder to find more compelling main characters.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:53 (nine months ago) link
― you need magical thinking ayo my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Friday, August 25, 2023 10:29 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I think you get one invite code each week
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:54 (nine months ago) link
that's a relief cause i ain't coupons again like on that OTHER network
― you need magical thinking ayo my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:55 (nine months ago) link
lurkin on bsky @rozanna
― Roz, Friday, 25 August 2023 14:56 (nine months ago) link
Meet you all the way
― van der gragt generator (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:59 (nine months ago) link
so why do all the handles have .bsky.social in them? seems redundant
― flopson, Saturday, 26 August 2023 05:32 (nine months ago) link
I think it’s some kind of future-proofing for when it joins “the fediverse” whatever that is?
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 26 August 2023 07:41 (nine months ago) link
Another: bsky-social-mihyg-w4due
― Grandall Flange (wins), Saturday, 26 August 2023 07:51 (nine months ago) link
I assumed it was a fediverse thing, but it turns out you can link your own domain to your account as well and that’ll display. makes sense, kind of a self-verification technique
― mh, Saturday, 26 August 2023 13:42 (nine months ago) link
Yeah, I bought a domain specifically for bsky handle use. Like $9 per year.
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 26 August 2023 14:32 (nine months ago) link
https://bsky.app/profile/mondosalvo.com btw
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 26 August 2023 14:33 (nine months ago) link
Are they going to get video at some point?
― Cow_Art, Saturday, 26 August 2023 14:39 (nine months ago) link
I hope they never get gifs or video
― mh, Saturday, 26 August 2023 16:01 (nine months ago) link
yeah I'm happy for it have neither of those things. photos only, links that work please.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 26 August 2023 16:19 (nine months ago) link
https://media.tenor.com/mW38fLs0y14AAAAM/spit-laugh.gif
― mark s, Saturday, 26 August 2023 16:22 (nine months ago) link
was really hoping to never see that again
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 26 August 2023 16:26 (nine months ago) link
how else will ppl know that you are laughing?
― oatly carmichael (m bison), Saturday, 26 August 2023 16:29 (nine months ago) link
I would like video but I hope they never get gifs.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 26 August 2023 18:47 (nine months ago) link
i'm finally on! @zachtbd
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:19 (nine months ago) link
ok then
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:20 (nine months ago) link
― Clay
loooooool
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:21 (nine months ago) link
has the fact that there is no verification and people can use the names of public figures been an issue yet? I just saw Elizabeth Warren post "my pussy hurts". this is all fun for now but obv at some point someone is going to raise a stink.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:26 (nine months ago) link
How do you know that’s NOT Elizabeth Warren? You’re making some assumptions.
― Cow_Art, Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:28 (nine months ago) link
that is true
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:31 (nine months ago) link
prob of interest to no one but
i have a new job. my first day was yesterday but i felt too stressed to announce. monday feels like waiting forever. might as well announce now? i joined @bluesky as a software engineer.— danabramov.bsky.social (@dan_abramov) August 26, 2023
― lag∞n, Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:50 (nine months ago) link
how do u know i'm not reese witherspoon hmm
― Clay, Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:51 (nine months ago) link
that is interesting to me. that's a good move for bluesky.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:51 (nine months ago) link
clay, you are reesewithoutherspoon if anything
i need to spend some time looking in the mirror here
― Clay, Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:52 (nine months ago) link
not sure if anyone else has encountered this, but on the desktop version (on chrome, i know, i suck), when i click "Home", it sometimes brings me home (shoutout for that) but just as often clicking Home brings me to a variety of other places, like the website i was visiting before bluesky, to my notifications page, or a profile that i had visited many clicks earlier.
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Saturday, 26 August 2023 23:04 (nine months ago) link
hasn't happened to me. try really clearing your browser cache, there might be something stuck in localstorage.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 26 August 2023 23:05 (nine months ago) link
i need to open the extensions settings in chrome and powerhose it tbh
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Saturday, 26 August 2023 23:06 (nine months ago) link
feel like ive had similar things happen on mac-chrome, been chalking up some of the clumsiness to the fact that its built on top of a weird protocol, but havent really looked into it or thought it through as far as that making sense
― lag∞n, Sunday, 27 August 2023 05:06 (nine months ago) link
think thats why they dont have video too, the protocol
― lag∞n, Sunday, 27 August 2023 05:07 (nine months ago) link
just text would be best tho, no images no video
they should just focus on being the twitter clone with momentum ditch all the decentralized fediverse blockchain protocol stuff and copy pre-elon twitter as closely as possible
― flopson, Sunday, 27 August 2023 05:25 (nine months ago) link
also the feed is weird. it shows me every single reply from an account i follow, even if they're just replying to a random account i don't follow. but at the same time sometimes it doesn't show threaded replies by the account i do follow to themself
― flopson, Sunday, 27 August 2023 05:34 (nine months ago) link
For replies, go to settings, then click on home feed preferences. You can turn off seeing replies altogether, or you can adjust the slider to where it shows EVERY reply or, on the other end, replies with a minimum of 25 likes.
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 27 August 2023 05:46 (nine months ago) link
yeah but neither of those is desirable. i want to see replies between people i follow regardless of the number of likes. twitter had this right
― flopson, Sunday, 27 August 2023 05:57 (nine months ago) link
Yeah, gotcha
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 27 August 2023 05:58 (nine months ago) link
other criticisms
- the word "skeet" has a vulgar connotation and is embarrassing to use in earnest. is tweet not up for grabs now? what's the legality here
- the logo is a photo of a blue sky with white clouds. way too literal. i was pronouncing it "blueski" in my head, sometimes playfully contracting it to just "bluesk" and laughing to myself. feel like they should go more in this direction. similar to how twitter dropped the bird stuff and "twitter" "tweet" took on more intrinsic meanings
- search don't seem to work very well and recommendations isn't very streamlined. thought it would be easy to re-populate my feed with people from twitter but it's annoying hard to find them, even after i've followed a bunch it's not recommending me everyone else
― flopson, Sunday, 27 August 2023 06:37 (nine months ago) link
just click on lag∞n’s profile and follow who he’s following. easy
― mh, Sunday, 27 August 2023 13:34 (nine months ago) link
bsky tweets = bleats
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Sunday, 27 August 2023 13:47 (nine months ago) link
― mh, Sunday, August 27, 2023 9:34 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
high level social strat
― lag∞n, Sunday, 27 August 2023 14:00 (nine months ago) link
- the logo is a photo of a blue sky with white clouds. way too literal.
― Alba, Sunday, 27 August 2023 14:04 (nine months ago) link
i like it
― mark s, Sunday, 27 August 2023 14:05 (nine months ago) link
i miss CD-DOMs, they were the pop-up book of their day
― mark s, Sunday, 27 August 2023 14:06 (nine months ago) link
lol yah i respect it
― lag∞n, Sunday, 27 August 2023 14:07 (nine months ago) link
bring back seedy dom
― nashwan, Sunday, 27 August 2023 14:16 (nine months ago) link
ALSO ETHAN
― mark s, Sunday, 27 August 2023 14:20 (nine months ago) link
(dont bring back dom tho)
looooool, skeet? and RESKEET?
has anyone at blueskeet ever heard of urbandictionary.com? lol
every single day is another day that goes by when bluesky.com called their tweets skeets
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:04 (nine months ago) link
the users did it, because it was funny
― lag∞n, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:06 (nine months ago) link
the bluesky organization tried to make skeet not happen but that only made people lean into it iirc
― mh, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:07 (nine months ago) link
its kind of perfect tbf
― lag∞n, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:08 (nine months ago) link
oh dang, it's a user initiative!
it's just funny because i see some people using it straightforwardly, like it doesn't mean cum. my mom, for many years and to this day, says "are you hung?" as shorthand for "are you hungry?". no one has ever had the heart to tell her, and it's way too late now. this reminds me of that :-o
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:13 (nine months ago) link
my mom, for many years and to this day, says "are you hung?"
Well? ARE YOU?
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:18 (nine months ago) link
she knows
― mark s, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:20 (nine months ago) link
my stock answer for so many years has been "yes, I'm hungry" or "no, I'm not hungry". she also refuses to break away from she and he, claims to not understand "they" and how it works, etc. sometimes life throws you a curveball and you just have to deal with a parent asking you if you have a boner in slang they she doesn't even understand
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:21 (nine months ago) link
you should should try to steer her towards hungie reply yeah im hungie its fun she wants a fun way to say hungry
― lag∞n, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:23 (nine months ago) link
Wait I thought it meant well-endowed.
― Alba, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:24 (nine months ago) link
this is true! i have made a boner regarding hung
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:33 (nine months ago) link
also lag00n otm, we need to divert her toward new fun words for being hungry
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:34 (nine months ago) link
once you start with hungie you can also talk about being cranky and sweepy
― lag∞n, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:36 (nine months ago) link
sweepy
feelin' skeety iirc
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:37 (nine months ago) link
I ask my cat if he’s hungy but only in the privacy of my own home
― mh, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:38 (nine months ago) link
When my grandmother wanted to do something else than watching TV, she used to ask "Shall we have it off?".
― Alba, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:40 (nine months ago) link
here's my question about bluesky now: i hear dorsey doesn't even really support it, beyond having funded it at early stages he's now directed his interest toward Nostr. Who runs bluesky, and what is the revenue model?
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 27 August 2023 16:02 (nine months ago) link
it’s in the faq: https://blueskyweb.xyz/faq
― mh, Sunday, 27 August 2023 16:27 (nine months ago) link
Dan joining Bluesky was a deal at Meta.
― Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 27 August 2023 18:45 (nine months ago) link
they mad
― lag∞n, Sunday, 27 August 2023 18:46 (nine months ago) link
Yeah. He also still has some good ideas. I feel like this is a good move. He was encumbered by React.
― Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 27 August 2023 18:46 (nine months ago) link
i will miss him explaining react on twitter
― lag∞n, Sunday, 27 August 2023 18:53 (nine months ago) link
tho he kinda stopped after people got mad at server components, which is too bad
― lag∞n, Sunday, 27 August 2023 18:56 (nine months ago) link
the bluesky app icon/logo is good.
there is verification. you make your handle your domain, which is only possible if you control the domain, e.g. you can only set your username to https://bsky.app/profile/wyden.senate.gov if you control ron wyden's senate.gov domain. so when the real reese witherspoon joins she can have reesewitherspoon.com.
i'm skeptical of their "moderation? oh that's nothing to do with us. we're just building a protocol" approach to a lot of stuff, but this approach to verification is really good. it requires essentially no resources from them and it's less open to the stupidity associated with blue checks on twitter (before and after musk).
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 28 August 2023 00:31 (nine months ago) link
i'm the real reese witherspoon
― Clay, Monday, 28 August 2023 00:41 (nine months ago) link
its true, i vouch for clay-reese
― lag∞n, Monday, 28 August 2023 00:46 (nine months ago) link
If you use your own domain does it still use bsky's servers? The thing I hated about Mastodon was the seperate servers - it was really hard to find/communicate with siloed people on all these diff servers. And then the one I'd picked, shut down unnanounced one day and I lost my login/account. Not that I'd really used it.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 28 August 2023 01:39 (nine months ago) link
bsky isn't federated yet, so there's no jumping between servers for anyone there. Not really sure of the pros and cons of using my own domain at this point, but I imagine if I ever need to know why there will be oodles of explainers out there.
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 28 August 2023 02:34 (nine months ago) link
one feature of twitter i wish they'd copy: hover over the username to get basic info/bio/followers
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Monday, 28 August 2023 16:47 (nine months ago) link
oh ffs I thought twitter stopped that feature a long time ago, but I just discovered that it only stopped working in Firefox and not my other browsers.
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 03:43 (nine months ago) link
bsky-social-xhecp-hvuie
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 05:20 (nine months ago) link
Thanks calz. I am here: @quartzcity.bsky.social
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 07:53 (nine months ago) link
got ya!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 08:03 (nine months ago) link
I’m on there now @scampo sorry for making up those fake codes earlier — here’s a real one: bsky-social-p8tiy-gjwpo
― Grandall Flange (wins), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 19:00 (nine months ago) link
not going near that tbh
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 19:02 (nine months ago) link
Why would you, you don’t need a code
― Grandall Flange (wins), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 19:22 (nine months ago) link
ha elvis i didn't get that quartzcity is you til now-- enjoyed the hell out that podcast ep, still am
― you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 23:20 (nine months ago) link
the amount of weird drama I somehow see on a daily basis on bluesky boggles the mind. I think some of these people are some of the same people I had to unfollow on twitter or something a while ago, just non-stop allegations of racism and ableism back and forth all day long, impossible to follow.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 22:40 (nine months ago) link
I've blocked enough folks who are clearly tools, others have gone, essentially I only see a couple of things about it now so it's all somewhat calmer for me on the feed at this point.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:01 (nine months ago) link
Geez all I'm seeing on here so far is a lot of Ned posts!
...sorry Ned but its true :P
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:08 (nine months ago) link
But yeah people who are Chronically Online esp on Twitter/Tumblr and are obsessed with calling everyone out, are just tiresome and honestly toxic to genuine causes. I'm not interested in that kind of discourse at all.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:09 (nine months ago) link
I just mute or block anyone obsessed with circular site drama.
I think that’s the big issue, up until the advent of widespread twitter use (and post-weird twitter) the better intersections were about something. Talking about something you made, wrote, read, or listened to. The just posts, no content thing came up later and was people doing a bit, but getting marginalized if you did it poorly
Without things to react to, people just feed off of attention and drama. And they’re apparently on discords specifically for crafting posts?
― mh, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:38 (nine months ago) link
Every now and then I come across someone who is like “being nice to people is ableist” and the number of people co-signing them makes me want to hurl myself into the sun
― the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:39 (nine months ago) link
It’s usually a (to me) child with an avatar that looks like they failed an audition to get into Burning Man
― the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:40 (nine months ago) link
I suspect the consumption is very passive now and people actively avoid non-algorithmic discovery which is wild to me. If I see something interesting I click through to someone’s feed to see what they’re about, see who other people follow, etc.
I can only think that few people do that because some huge accounts have a profile where it’s pure engagement farming.
― mh, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:40 (nine months ago) link
i've seen almost no racism/circular site drama in my timeline, not sure why
the only thing that's stood out to me so far is that if i encounter a post by someone i don't know or haven't heard of, it's like 2-to-1 that poster is trans
― mookieproof, Thursday, 31 August 2023 00:28 (nine months ago) link
the Discover feed had some interesting ideas over the weekend and kept recommending gaymers (guys wearing briefs posing in front of video game memorabilia) and furry artists it seems to have swung back to a mix of people now
― mh, Thursday, 31 August 2023 00:31 (nine months ago) link
to be fair to bluesky, the being nice to people is ableist stuff still exists on twitter. there's no escpaing it.
https://www.garbageday.email/p/the-new-economics-of-twitter-outrage
On August 20th, a freelance writer named Bailey Herdé vented on Twitter about the agony of trying to make small talk with people who don’t reciprocate. “Sorry if this is rude or whatever but I really hate people who refuse to endure even the tiniest bits of small talk. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve walked up to a table at work and said ‘how are you doing today’ only to be met with complete silence and a blank stare.”Herdé’s tweet has been shared over 5,000 times and I’m comfortable saying almost every single reply to it is bad. As podcaster Michael Hobbes wrote, “The platonic ideal of a Main Character tweet: A reasonable, low-stakes gripe about a relatable situation... and 10,000 people in the replies making up scenarios so they can call her a terrible person.” If you don’t feel like clicking over, the (incorrect) consensus was that Herdé was being ableist.
Herdé’s tweet has been shared over 5,000 times and I’m comfortable saying almost every single reply to it is bad. As podcaster Michael Hobbes wrote, “The platonic ideal of a Main Character tweet: A reasonable, low-stakes gripe about a relatable situation... and 10,000 people in the replies making up scenarios so they can call her a terrible person.” If you don’t feel like clicking over, the (incorrect) consensus was that Herdé was being ableist.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 31 August 2023 01:40 (nine months ago) link
Oh I’m not at all saying it’s exclusive to Bluesky at all, just noting the ongoing phenomenon
Makes me miss the “fellas, does eating a hot dog make you gay” version of this
― the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 31 August 2023 01:50 (nine months ago) link
bsky-social-yhrsq-u4clu
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 1 September 2023 01:57 (nine months ago) link
I honestly like that!
The takeover continues.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 September 2023 04:12 (nine months ago) link
i followed random resto bot but had to unfollow it 5 minutes later cause there are so few posts that 8/10 posts were restaurants lol. will follow it again once/if things pick up
― flopson, Friday, 1 September 2023 06:07 (nine months ago) link
Makes me miss the “fellas, does eating a hot dog make you gay” version of thisthe Seeking Derangements podcast compiled a list of the ridiculous things people said make you gay on twitter and were running through it. one of the more long winded episodes but some funny bits brb time to ride a bicycle to hot dog brunch
― mh, Friday, 1 September 2023 13:25 (nine months ago) link
bsky-social-ive37-4ee7b
― Ari (whenuweremine), Friday, 1 September 2023 18:10 (nine months ago) link
get yr bluesky
i'm having trouble figuring out what to post on bluesky, which i think means i should probably not post. it's not an internet-wide issue for me; i feel fine posting here. i like to post.
i might eventually do little mini-stories or something? like evil guide dog but not as problematic? i don't know. what is the internet good for? why are we on this thing
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 1 September 2023 18:13 (nine months ago) link
I'm on @cannaregio. I am following Ned and no one else for the moment.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 1 September 2023 18:17 (nine months ago) link
you should just leave it there tbh! some things are just perfect from the get go
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 1 September 2023 18:18 (nine months ago) link
perhaps… too perfect
― mark s, Friday, 1 September 2023 18:21 (nine months ago) link
the Seeking Derangements podcast compiled a list of the ridiculous things people said make you gay on twitter and were running through it. one of the more long winded episodes but some funny bits
brb time to ride a bicycle to hot dog brunch
I dimly recall someone asserting that a man performing oral sex in a woman was gay? Did that happen or am I imagining it?
― the new drip king (DJP), Friday, 1 September 2023 18:49 (nine months ago) link
xpost Well that's hey wait
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 September 2023 19:09 (nine months ago) link
oh that 100% made the list if you include the absolutely weird young republican edgelord types, then having sex with a woman if you are a straight man is gay
― mh, Friday, 1 September 2023 21:57 (nine months ago) link
ooh there’s an old VSB list but there are definitely new additions to the canon since then: https://www.theroot.com/a-running-list-of-things-straight-men-cant-and-shouldnt-1827758710
― mh, Friday, 1 September 2023 21:59 (nine months ago) link
that list doesn't even have the OG, "eat quiche"
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 1 September 2023 22:51 (nine months ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/ff/Quichereilawjd.gif
recall being confused by this book as a child
― lag∞n, Friday, 1 September 2023 23:05 (nine months ago) link
I just learned that guy wrote the screenplay for "Tomorrow Never Dies" and co-wrote "The World Is Not Enough" (which is the most generic Bond title ever, I don't even remember what movie that was)
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 1 September 2023 23:12 (nine months ago) link
feel like quiche has kind of fallen out of the culture. do the children even know?
― mh, Saturday, 2 September 2023 13:41 (nine months ago) link
I don’t post very hard over there; but noticed a few ILX0rs, so I changed my handle to the obvious (if anyone’s interested in following).
― Disappointing cantaloupe (morrisp), Sunday, 3 September 2023 07:11 (eight months ago) link
If anyone's still on there...I'm on Bluesky as @every80spopsong.bsky.social (Casey Skeets-Em) posting on every 80s pop song that charted or was a pick in Billboard, Cash Box and/or Record World, chronologically.
― westofrome, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 14:45 (eight months ago) link
Oh that’s you, hi!
― Disappointing cantaloupe (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 15:32 (eight months ago) link
does anyone need these still?
bsky-social-qlkc7-lrp7w
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 17:20 (eight months ago) link
another:
bsky-social-pucvn-bm5vf
― Cow_Art, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 17:25 (eight months ago) link
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― Cow_Art, Sunday, 10 September 2023 09:23 (eight months ago) link
I've seen reports that spammers are scraping the internet for invite codes, and doesn't look good if/when they get banned and you "invited" them - so would probably keep your codes for DMs.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 10 September 2023 09:50 (eight months ago) link
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hidden this one!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 10 September 2023 10:18 (eight months ago) link
I got another one. I don’t know how to DM or hide text. If you need an invite, tell me how to get it to you.
― Cow_Art, Sunday, 10 September 2023 19:22 (eight months ago) link
To hide text (eg spoilers or sensitive text): text you want hidden behind a 'show this' link
― that's not my post, Sunday, 10 September 2023 19:34 (eight months ago) link
spammers can read this
― churl of england (ledge), Sunday, 10 September 2023 19:35 (eight months ago) link
lol that hid the important part. use bracket h bracket hidden text bracket /h bracket bracket=[]
― that's not my post, Sunday, 10 September 2023 19:36 (eight months ago) link
bsky-social-hnk5e-6gbja
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Sunday, 10 September 2023 19:45 (eight months ago) link
I'm a gambler and will take a chance that an ilxer will get the code before a spammer does, if it is taken by a spammer - nobody dies and ultimately idgaf.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 10 September 2023 19:47 (eight months ago) link
testes
― Cow_Art, Sunday, 10 September 2023 20:02 (eight months ago) link
I did it!!! Does that actually help though?
code: bsky-social-aterz-fdu5i
― Cow_Art, Sunday, 10 September 2023 20:03 (eight months ago) link
bsky-social-wanke-6pissninja' is a genuine invite code
tbf they will get spammers anyway
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 10 September 2023 20:10 (eight months ago) link
Okay, is there some way to change the feed so that every reply to a thread doesn’t come up as a separate thing? There’s a vigorous discussion that I don’t care about and every other post in my feed is someone arguing with a guy that i’m following.
― Cow_Art, Monday, 11 September 2023 01:48 (eight months ago) link
feel like quiche has kind of fallen out of the culture. do the children even know?― mh, Saturday, September 2, 2023 6:41 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
― mh, Saturday, September 2, 2023 6:41 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
Feed the worldlet them know it's Quichemas time again
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 11 September 2023 01:52 (eight months ago) link
xp You can adjust your settings (Home Feed Preferences) so you only see replies from ppl you follow that have a certain number of likes... or not at all.
― I made it weird, I made it worse (morrisp), Monday, 11 September 2023 02:02 (eight months ago) link
jack deleted his account lmao
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 15 September 2023 04:11 (eight months ago) link
Erm... didnt he start this platform? lol
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 15 September 2023 05:19 (eight months ago) link
he started the protocol but has moved on to another one, the name of which escapes me.
I find AT Protocol and the open source app pretty interesting myself. I think it has legs and will grow. Bsky isn't federated yet, and now one has really figured out what that will lead to, but that is kind of interesting.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 15 September 2023 20:08 (eight months ago) link
His thing is Nostr, where he hangs w/other like-minded luminaries.
― my brain goes aahhhh (morrisp), Friday, 15 September 2023 20:27 (eight months ago) link
I am totally armchair when it comes to the nuts and bolts of this stuff, but how come when I look at Bluesky I'll see, like, 25 posts in a row from one person? Is it just a toggle I haven't toggled that I used to have toggled on Twitter? Maybe I had reposts turned off?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 September 2023 13:35 (eight months ago) link
yeah I've noticed thatI'm not really that into Bluesky, feels like going through the motions or trying to recapture this once genuine phenomenon that's gone. nothing wrong with it per se, more a me thing.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 September 2023 13:47 (eight months ago) link
I have decided sitting on my firstnamelastname handle on bsky is against my newfound ethos in life and I’m going to do the domain name thing because I’ve remembered I have a funny domain to use
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 18 September 2023 13:49 (eight months ago) link
As a Discourse- and Take-avoider, I find that Bluesky has very little "use case" for me... I religiously avoid the general feeds... I follow a few folks from here, and have found a handful of other accounts to follow (mainly by browsing the Newskies feed, and filtering through all the furr1es, "titillating" selfies, and anime art); and engage in light music discussion via other feeds. But I could also never visit it, and not feel like I'm missing anything.
― stylized in all lowercase (morrisp), Monday, 18 September 2023 15:24 (eight months ago) link
yeah I'm with you and ums too. I find checking in on it every now and then can be momentarily distracting, but as it grows it mostly reminds me of why I never really loved twitter. and luckily I haven't found it habit forming at all
― rob, Monday, 18 September 2023 15:29 (eight months ago) link
Its dominant/default style (as reflected in the main feeds, so I guess the posts which receive the most engagement) is for sure a form of posting that I avoided on Twitter. That said, I've noticed large & growing communities for science, comics, etc., so I'm sure it has value for folks with specific interests.
― stylized in all lowercase (morrisp), Monday, 18 September 2023 15:31 (eight months ago) link
anyoen have an invite? i have resisted asking so far but i need something to obsessively refresh if twitter is gonna try to charge me
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Monday, 18 September 2023 21:07 (eight months ago) link
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― that's not my post, Monday, 18 September 2023 21:09 (eight months ago) link
many thx
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Monday, 18 September 2023 23:16 (eight months ago) link
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bsky-social-i7mpk-dijfv
A few more
― sell cigs to kids (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 06:26 (eight months ago) link
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― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 06:28 (eight months ago) link
Any invites going spare? Many thanks in advance
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 17:25 (eight months ago) link
bsky-social-sa5pa-blyln
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 17:27 (eight months ago) link
Hook a man up? I don't want to bogart glumdal's
― omar little, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 17:29 (eight months ago) link
Thanks mate!
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 17:30 (eight months ago) link
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― lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 17:40 (eight months ago) link
i'm in
― omar little, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 17:53 (eight months ago) link
what's yr handle?
― stylized in all lowercase (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 17:57 (eight months ago) link
And any new people know how to find me easily enough...
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 17:58 (eight months ago) link
just got on. I'm @critterjams.bsky.social, everyone else if you want a follow drop it here
― frogbs, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 19:27 (eight months ago) link
same got on yesterday - same user name as i use here
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 19:34 (eight months ago) link
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― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 22:32 (eight months ago) link
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 22:52 (eight months ago) link
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― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 00:13 (eight months ago) link
Please follow me lol @jeremysteel.bsky.social
Anyone got an Ello invite?
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:33 (eight months ago) link
i don't pay any attention to curating my feed and neil gaiman and friends now have entire control of my feed what is even happening
― you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Thursday, 21 September 2023 13:46 (eight months ago) link
I think people who post a LOT really dominate the feed on Bluesky. Sometimes I feel like Albini is the only poster there.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 September 2023 14:01 (eight months ago) link
yea I kinda dig the mini Twitter vibe though the site in general seems pretty janky and not ready for primetime yet
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 September 2023 14:18 (eight months ago) link
this one i posted upthread is still live fyi all invite wanters bsky-social-znhop-fsygd
― lag∞n, Thursday, 21 September 2023 14:54 (eight months ago) link
One more code:
bsky-social-q4srx-3bhia
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 September 2023 15:15 (eight months ago) link
I think a good number of ppl join and never post (or post only very rarely) – maybe due to intimidation? I'm currently following 114 accounts, and my Following feed is still pretty quiet... only a handful of folks that I follow post regularly.
― stylized in all lowercase (morrisp), Thursday, 21 September 2023 15:19 (eight months ago) link
(In other words, of the now > 1mm accounts on BS, I suspect that a relatively high percentage of daily posts are coming from a relatively low number of accounts... whatever "relatively low" would mean for a social site.)
― stylized in all lowercase (morrisp), Thursday, 21 September 2023 15:20 (eight months ago) link
I reckon ppl aren't posting yet because they're on twitter.
If there's a way to link the posting that would be good
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 September 2023 15:23 (eight months ago) link
Anybody still need a code?
― Cow_Art, Thursday, 21 September 2023 15:25 (eight months ago) link
yes :(
― dc, Thursday, 21 September 2023 16:20 (eight months ago) link
bsky-social-navga-r6tdw
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Thursday, 21 September 2023 16:28 (eight months ago) link
I’m too slow on the draw
― dc, Thursday, 21 September 2023 16:33 (eight months ago) link
kinda mourning twitter today. possibly just bc my day so far has involved a lot of waiting around lol.
like, a single guy just totally wrecked this vast thing. it’s wild.
― dc, Thursday, 21 September 2023 16:37 (eight months ago) link
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― Cow_Art, Thursday, 21 September 2023 16:40 (eight months ago) link
success. you are both heroes tyty
― dc, Thursday, 21 September 2023 16:44 (eight months ago) link
I wonder if people will realize that an algorithm feed can be good.
― Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 21 September 2023 17:49 (eight months ago) link
Find me a good algorithm feed first.
― pplains, Thursday, 21 September 2023 18:12 (eight months ago) link
I've been pretty happy with the "For you" feed on another app, which I use as my primary Twitter replacement (...and which I won't name, to avoid getting into a battle-of-the-socials convo).
― stylized in all lowercase (morrisp), Thursday, 21 September 2023 18:38 (eight months ago) link
its spoutible isn't it
― mark s, Thursday, 21 September 2023 18:47 (eight months ago) link
Haha, no... I bailed on that one after a good try
― stylized in all lowercase (morrisp), Thursday, 21 September 2023 18:49 (eight months ago) link
an hour ago i unsub'd from their mailouts.i had totally forgotten about that place to be honest.
― mark e, Thursday, 21 September 2023 19:13 (eight months ago) link
I wonder if Bluesky hasn't taken off because You Still Need a Fucking Secret Invite Code To Get In?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 September 2023 19:18 (eight months ago) link
that's because it's still in beta mode? I mean the site is mostly functional but it doesn't seem production ready yet.
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 September 2023 19:20 (eight months ago) link
Like if I was a Twitter user with hundreds or thousands of followers, I'm not going to peace out and say "See you on Bluesky. Hope you got an invite, losers."
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 September 2023 19:21 (eight months ago) link
until recently my feed was dominated by neil gaiman and steve albini, but then i tweaked something and boom, my feed has become a lot more interesting.then again that could be cos they aren't posting as much and i have added a lot of accounts that i follow.
― mark e, Thursday, 21 September 2023 19:21 (eight months ago) link
it's production ready, it's just missing features people want. I'm not sure how big the team is there; there are like, three people from there that post on bluesky even semi-regularly, and the main one is their front-end dev who might be the only person filling that role (not sure), and he forwards feature requests to someone who seems to be product.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 21 September 2023 19:45 (eight months ago) link
it's dominated by 1% of users like any other social network. the problem is it's still small enough that timelines seem very repetitive. (also there's fewer people willing to be the main character and generate primo content like unperson.)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 September 2023 20:14 (eight months ago) link
fwiw though some time in the last couple of weeks i reached the point where my regular following feed on bluesky (with replies turned off, just posts and reposts) has significantly more content than the same on twitter. my twitter following feed is down to like 4 posts an hour. i follow twice as many people on twitter than on bsky.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 September 2023 20:16 (eight months ago) link
Bluesky is still slow and clunky, if they open it up to everyone it’ll probably crash.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 21 September 2023 21:58 (eight months ago) link
a lot of econ twitter ppl have started to migrate if you're into that niche. jamelle bouie, tressie mcmillain cottom, and adam serwer are all active, too if u like them (i do)
― oatly carmichael (m bison), Thursday, 21 September 2023 23:41 (eight months ago) link
Maybe I constructed my feed all wrong but the site still sucks for following sports, movies, breaking news. Too much arguing about the supposed rules of the site and other boring internecine topics.
― Chris L, Friday, 22 September 2023 00:01 (eight months ago) link
sport stuff will not move there until it has video. same goes for breaking news to an extent.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 September 2023 00:52 (eight months ago) link
i vowed not to follow any pundits on bluesky
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 September 2023 01:50 (eight months ago) link
u follow me tho
― oatly carmichael (m bison), Friday, 22 September 2023 02:01 (eight months ago) link
im not perfect
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 September 2023 02:03 (eight months ago) link
I wouldn’t expect video any time soon but I’m confused about gif support… it’s just a file type. Sure the files can be bigger than pngs or jpegs, but not that much. It feels like a conscious decision to not support.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 22 September 2023 05:04 (eight months ago) link
im not perfect― lag∞n, Thursday, September 21, 2023 10:03 PM
― lag∞n, Thursday, September 21, 2023 10:03 PM
hush, sweet lag∞n
― mookieproof, Friday, 22 September 2023 05:12 (eight months ago) link
Kinda like it barely supports video and so on. Just a quiet, clunky place where we can post is classic early internet.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 September 2023 08:52 (eight months ago) link
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Agree that videos and gifs would be bad
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 22 September 2023 09:04 (eight months ago) link
iiuc they have not added gif support because they are not old people.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 September 2023 14:13 (eight months ago) link
gif reactions might be one of my top three least favorite things about twitter, and that is saying a lot given what a shitshow it is now
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 22 September 2023 15:13 (eight months ago) link
otm. they were dying but then twitter's worst users moved to the top of the replies and they're back.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 September 2023 15:16 (eight months ago) link
a carefully selected gif used to have cachet, but the concept of the gif library - just choosing whatever bottom of the barrel no royalties bullshit that comes up when you type in 'surprised' or w/e - is so bad, and also one of the worst things about work slacks
― 龜, Friday, 22 September 2023 15:26 (eight months ago) link
whatever.gif
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 22 September 2023 16:56 (eight months ago) link
most of them are from TV shows I don't watch and I know because there's usually a giant logo at the bottom
― frogbs, Friday, 22 September 2023 16:59 (eight months ago) link
the fact that so many of them have a broadcast tv logo at the bottom is how you know these jokes are all 10+ years old.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 September 2023 17:03 (eight months ago) link
suspect a lot of the not having stuff like dm and video has to do with the protocol its built on, if they were just making a normal website it wouldnt be too hard to implement that stuff
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:33 (eight months ago) link
also theyve said the invites arent just a beta thing its part of their moderation scheme, bad actors cant just make a million accounts
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:34 (eight months ago) link
agreed about gifs. I definitely spent some time looking for a way to block tweets containing animated gifs a couple of years ago but didn't find anything.
― silverfish, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:34 (eight months ago) link
yeah dm is a protocol issue.
video is at the very least a compute and storage problem (everything needs to be re-encoded and stored). i'm pretty sure they're anti-gif, but afaik video is missing because it's hard.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 September 2023 17:35 (eight months ago) link
yeah idk how much money they have, imo they shouldve gone all the way and done text only
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:36 (eight months ago) link
animated gifs are weirdly huge thats why all the gifs on twitter are really just videos
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:38 (eight months ago) link
twitter didnt used to have images you had to host them on a third party site, when text was king
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:41 (eight months ago) link
i agree re txt only would have been a good way to keep things clean and simple (and cheaper for hosting)
~ he says having posted several album covers in last few days ~
― mark e, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:47 (eight months ago) link
just add a media url option to skeets and clients can implement a little embed off of a video provider
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 22 September 2023 17:54 (eight months ago) link
supporting external embeds (video, image, whatever) is an abuse threat and potentially a security complication. you can do it but it's an operational burden.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 September 2023 17:56 (eight months ago) link
xp The thing is though those weird spam accounts are proliferating. and they say “Report them if you notice them, we can trace them via the invite trees”… but they don’t seem to do that effectively(?)
― stylized in all lowercase (morrisp), Friday, 22 September 2023 18:17 (eight months ago) link
(sorry I was responding to the invite thing)
― stylized in all lowercase (morrisp), Friday, 22 September 2023 18:19 (eight months ago) link
i do think it's more likely they will support embedded video from youtube before they support hosted video (because of the storage issue which goes back to me wondering how they are planning to pay for all this shit if it really takes off, because it has no revenue model).
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 22 September 2023 19:20 (eight months ago) link
what’s mastodon do re: video?
― 龜, Friday, 22 September 2023 19:22 (eight months ago) link
Depends on how your Mastodon server is set up. I think the default max file size is 40MB but YouTube embeds work fine.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 22 September 2023 19:49 (eight months ago) link
In case anyone needs an invite:
bsky-social-rdvwf-sujqpbsky-social-5v6sg-ez5e3
― Ari (whenuweremine), Friday, 22 September 2023 20:30 (eight months ago) link
All right, I'm there: @burningambulance.bsky.social
― read-only (unperson), Friday, 22 September 2023 20:53 (eight months ago) link
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― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 22 September 2023 20:56 (eight months ago) link
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― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Friday, 22 September 2023 20:58 (eight months ago) link
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― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 10:22 (eight months ago) link
In the name of community I started following a bunch of people, but I've already had to start unfollowing annoying (over) posters. (None of you people, though.)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 12:16 (eight months ago) link
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― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 12:30 (eight months ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, September 22, 2023 1:33 PM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink
dont mind videos but not having dms is annoying
― flopson, Thursday, 28 September 2023 03:16 (eight months ago) link
― flopson, Sunday, August 27, 2023 1:34 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
they fixed this in the new update btw. feed is pretty readable now
― flopson, Thursday, 28 September 2023 03:18 (eight months ago) link
i've been enjoying bluesk tbh. there's a provincialism to it that's in some ways unappealing--lots of the discourse you see has this vibe of like, "this is the safe space away from scary mean twitter", to which i rmde--but it is nice how relatively small it feels. i missed out on early twitter (think i joined in 2013 or 14) but kinda reminds me of the first couple years
― flopson, Thursday, 28 September 2023 03:24 (eight months ago) link
I joined twitter in November 2006 and I am one thousand years old
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 28 September 2023 03:49 (eight months ago) link
at the time I thought I’d missed the good wave when it was popular at sxsw (also rip) and maybe was right
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 28 September 2023 03:51 (eight months ago) link
I don’t think early twitter can quite be recaptured, but it’s interesting how each alternative (and I’ve tried… seven (7) of them) has its own vibe & culture, without necessarily promoting itself that way. Seems to happen somewhat organically, you know?
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Thursday, 28 September 2023 03:53 (eight months ago) link
loving how you can configure your TL so you only see posts of folks you follow and nothing else.there are lots of feeds to select from that tweak your feed, but for me 'OnlyPosts' is the one that sorts me out.
― mark e, Thursday, 28 September 2023 08:13 (eight months ago) link
early twitter was so great
― k3vin k., Thursday, 28 September 2023 14:06 (eight months ago) link
I joined in 2009 but it really started to devolve around 2014 or so
2015/16 was the real turning point (for obvious reasons); early 2010s Twitter was the peak I think – "weird Twitter" era, plus real-time engagement w/"events" but not in the oversaturated way that came later.
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Thursday, 28 September 2023 15:52 (eight months ago) link
once tv news started showing twitter screenshots it was cooked
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:06 (eight months ago) link
I dig the new website design, with your feeds listed in a sidebar that you can easily click around in.
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:23 (eight months ago) link
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, September 28, 2023 12:06 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
...cop starts breakdancing
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:34 (eight months ago) link
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Thursday, September 28, 2023 11:52 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
some of the early 2010s weird twitter humor hasn't aged that well imho. the best tweets of that era are classics but on the whole there was still lots of residual "so random larfs"/"epic bacon" type of millenial humor in the mix
― flopson, Friday, 29 September 2023 17:51 (eight months ago) link
yeah a lot of it in retrospect was kinda lame but i think people liked it cause it was goofin off online not cause it was genius or whatever, then brands and the pundits et al came along and those are anti goofin off groups
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 September 2023 17:56 (eight months ago) link
it's weird how classic dril tweets just seem normal now, i remember them being so unlike anything at the time. also, i wish normal_now would come back.
― 龜, Friday, 29 September 2023 17:59 (eight months ago) link
the other day the discourse on bluesky was everyone dunking on a post by will stancil making the pt that if everyone on the left ceded twitter/X for the "walled garden" of bsky then no one would be left to bully the media and shift the discourse except nazis and centrist tech people. and everyone was dunking on it but like, the whole "posting is praxis" thing was definitely something that a significant share of ppl very earnestly believed from 2015-19. and imo it's now underrated how effective it was
― flopson, Friday, 29 September 2023 18:15 (eight months ago) link
Weird Twitter def. could feel forced or goofy, but there were also folks making such creative and cool uses of the medium (including the character limitations). Even close to "the end," I would occasionally run into accounts doing offbeat things that were so funny to me. I see a little of that elsewhere now too (like Bluesky), but it feels like the time for it has passed...
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Friday, 29 September 2023 18:24 (eight months ago) link
wait goofy is bad now
― mark s, Friday, 29 September 2023 18:29 (eight months ago) link
tough crowd
― mark s, Friday, 29 September 2023 18:30 (eight months ago) link
I like goofy... it's hard to do well tho, like many things I suppose.
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Friday, 29 September 2023 18:31 (eight months ago) link
I feel like even though twitter is obviously way past it's best, in any given month there are a fair few very funny tweets that can hold there own alongside the all-time funny tweets, are there equivalent very funny posts on bluesky, or are people still saving their best material for twitter?
― soref, Friday, 29 September 2023 18:33 (eight months ago) link
weird twitter went downhill after horse ebooks stopped posting
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 29 September 2023 18:36 (eight months ago) link
everything happens so much less now
― mark s, Friday, 29 September 2023 18:40 (eight months ago) link
and imo it's now underrated how effective it was
― flopson, Friday, September 29, 2023 2:15 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
anyone whos seen some big name pundit driven insane by a bunch of nobodies knows that shit works
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 September 2023 18:41 (eight months ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, September 29, 2023 2:41 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
ya exactly. not just pundits either tho, like the decade-long campaign by keynesians and MMT armies of twitter randos who'd bully anyone who said the word "deficit" pejoratively definitely made the biden fiscal stimulus bigger. possibly by like an order of magnitude
― flopson, Friday, 29 September 2023 18:50 (eight months ago) link
My favorite aspect of Twitter (besides all the official/gov't accounts) were these smart, funny, and/or interesting posters you would run into who weren't necessarily recognized experts in a particular field (or if so, they were posting anonymously), and weren't blue checks (in the traditional meaning) – but were clearly coming from a place of deep knowledge and/or analytical skill, and it's like... who are you? you're just a random account with a jokey username and cartoon pfp, but clearly you know what's up.
There were a few posters who I was really hoping would migrate over to another platform (and were the main reason I stayed on Twitter as long as I did), but they set up accounts and still haven't started posting regularly elsewhere, so I guess they don't plan on it. It's a bummer
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Friday, 29 September 2023 19:33 (eight months ago) link
buckle up babies cause charles_72sss is about to take yall on a wild climate ride
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 September 2023 22:32 (eight months ago) link
and imo it's now underrated how effective it was― flopson, Friday, September 29, 2023 2:15 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
seriously think this is why a lot of elon's SV friends are cheering him on.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 30 September 2023 03:01 (eight months ago) link
totally
― flopson, Saturday, 30 September 2023 03:02 (eight months ago) link
The paranoid part of my brain sometimes thinks that was the entire point of the acquisition.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 30 September 2023 03:04 (eight months ago) link
posted this a couple months ago:
This is correct afaict https://www.garbageday.email/p/paying-to-use-a-site-you-cant-use
The reason for its success, if you can argue that it was ever really successful, wasn’t that it was cooler than Facebook. It was because of its proximity to power. The reason it was so popular with activists, extremists, journalists, and shitposters was because what you posted there could actually affect culture. The thing that ties together pretty much everything that’s happened on Twitter since it launched in 2006 was the possibility that those who were not in power (or wanted more) could influence those who were. And I don’t think it’s an accident that a deranged billionaire broke that, nor do I think it’s accident that we’re suddenly being offered smaller, insular platforms or an offshoot of a Meta app as replacements. The folks in charge clearly don’t want that to happen again.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 30 September 2023 03:05 (eight months ago) link
I don’t know about “since it launched in 2006”… for a long time it was mainly comedians and bands and your IRL friends. (I also don’t agree that it was a good thing for all those journalists etc. to gather in one place, in fact I think it really wasn’t, but views obviously differ.)
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Saturday, 30 September 2023 03:12 (eight months ago) link
I don’t understand Dril. I’ve read articles about him, followed him, and I simply don’t get it. My brain doesn’t work that way. It’s like those magic eye optical illusions. Never could see ‘em.
― Cow_Art, Saturday, 30 September 2023 03:14 (eight months ago) link
The Bluesky iOS app has a bug where if you type a reply that's more than a few lines, the screen doesn't "scroll"; and so you can't see what you're typing, or whether you successfully attached an image (it's all "buried" beneath the bottom of the screen).
I submitted it as a bug report awhile back... I know they're a small team and have a lot to work on, but I assume their devs use iOS as well, and you'd think they'd iron out this pretty fundamental irritant.
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Saturday, 30 September 2023 15:25 (eight months ago) link
Yeah I've experienced that on Android as well.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Saturday, 30 September 2023 15:43 (eight months ago) link
tag that guy Paul on bsky and complain and he will probably look into it
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 30 September 2023 17:29 (eight months ago) link
also, may want to try Greysky, I am hearing it is now further along in some features and has fewer bugs.
this guy is currently working on the apps https://bsky.app/profile/danabra.mov
― lag∞n, Saturday, 30 September 2023 18:25 (eight months ago) link
it’s probably been a few weeks now, but a handful of people were run off of bsky for being weird, and one of the weird bits was that they were using a discord to just sit around and workshop their posts, which they would then throw out there and repost and strategic hoursI get the entire 1. get a social media following 2. ?? 3. profit scheme but it’s weird to see it start from zero and ramp upI should note this wasn’t “weird twitter” kind of weird, but “your interactions seem to imply you’ve got a sidebar of interactions going we can’t see and there are no direct messages here”
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 2 October 2023 13:12 (eight months ago) link
lol board detectives got em
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 October 2023 13:14 (eight months ago) link
Were they good posts at least? (A lot of posts I see on there could use more “workshopping”…)
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Monday, 2 October 2023 13:27 (eight months ago) link
that is fairly inoffensive. some people got run off last month because it was revealed they were colluding on discord and then piling up on people with unfounded accusations.
this weekend's drama that I witnessed involved a woman who publicly declared she had begun to kill herself, and then when people reacted and called for help, apparently the cops showed up and now everyone who tried to help her is evil because ACAB.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 2 October 2023 13:37 (eight months ago) link
the accusation stuff is just weird and just created on the fly. there was a group on twitter that seems to be attempting to migrate whose entire m.o. was to find someone actually popular, find something they said that could be misconstrued, and then blast that as a talking point to pull in anyone who might be susceptible what are you even doing online if this is what you’re up to? at least muting and blocking is being more normalized
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 2 October 2023 13:44 (eight months ago) link
you can absolutely ignore, block, mute anyone who thinks the fact emergency services showed up for someone in trouble means people who tried to help are pro-cop!
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 2 October 2023 13:45 (eight months ago) link
before musk took over i blocked and muted basically no one on twitter. i block and mute tons of people on bluesky. it's a good system. should have done it sooner.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 October 2023 13:54 (eight months ago) link
― flopson, Friday, 29 September 2023 bookmarkflaglink
"Posting is praxis" ppl haven't decreased to a significant degree?
From a ukpol perspective there was a five minute window to make some changes. That has been firmly shut way before Musk took over.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 07:37 (seven months ago) link
This post on bsky...
"i've noticed since this most recent wave of invites went out, a lot of new people are here posting like shit, being super aggressive and scolding people in their replies and i just want to say we don't do that here, go back to twitter if you can't act right"
Is funnily enough the first time I've encountered something like twitter behaviour on there lol. Though I am still only looking now and then. Timeline is growing.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 07:43 (seven months ago) link
I do feel like Bluesky has a lot more schoolmarm types
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 11:56 (seven months ago) link
the this is our little website behavior is very funny, its not actually their little website
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 13:30 (seven months ago) link
if only they knew about ilx
― rob, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 13:32 (seven months ago) link
people did really used to have their little websites now they have to pretend on some libertarians venture funded app, sad
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 13:40 (seven months ago) link
I’ve seen aggro jerks/trolls on Bsky for a while, that’s def not a new phenomenon
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:13 (seven months ago) link
I saw this and to be fair it was the woman herself who went off on the people who tried to help her and said they were evil and no longer her friends, not just some collection of bored bystanders.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:29 (seven months ago) link
unstable people will do that and imo you should either not take sides or at the very least not take the side of the unstable person if they’re speaking like that online, you have no idea whether they’ve reached out to people irl and it’s a tough call whether to take action but if their life is credibly at risk you’ve gotta do what you gotta do
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:10 (seven months ago) link
anyone have any new codes to share
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:24 (seven months ago) link
bsky-social-htira-6c6icbsky-social-6cjik-537vubsky-social-wmgoq-nouxc
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:33 (seven months ago) link
👑
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:38 (seven months ago) link
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― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:46 (seven months ago) link
to be fair it was the woman herself who went off on the people who tried to help her and said they were evil and no longer her friends, not just some collection of bored bystanders
yes i know, and that's what I meant. and at that point I decided this person was either 1) very seriously mentally unwell (tbf, she does admit this, and claims a whole onslaught of issues from PMDD to autism to something else) 2) just an attention seeker who got the wrong kind of attention (she seemed upset that she lost 50 followers as a result of this).
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:28 (seven months ago) link
there is a contingent of people in the world who want to loudly proclaim every single mental illness they suffer from to thousands upon thousands of strangers and I don't think I'm ever going to understand these people; ultimately I lose empathy with them. they are tiring and they inevitably ask for money. It strikes me as a deeply disingenuous type of grift.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:31 (seven months ago) link
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bsky-social-mx3dk-bmivu
― sell cigs to kids (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:32 (seven months ago) link
he whole "posting is praxis" thing was definitely something that a significant share of ppl very earnestly believed from 2015-19
someone please explain to me what that phrase means
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:59 (seven months ago) link
praxis term used on the left meaning putting theory into action eg protest is praxis, but is posting praxis are you actually doing anything, a question posed to the online left
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:04 (seven months ago) link
now you are exactly as stupid as the rest of us lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:05 (seven months ago) link
shitposting is shitpraxis, prove me wrong
― mark s, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:13 (seven months ago) link
got it. half the time when I encounter something fucking stupid its origins are in the online left. (the other half of the time it's coming from the online right)
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:16 (seven months ago) link
I think Sean McElwee's narrative arc really killed the posting is praxis thing
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:56 (seven months ago) link
so yr saying the on-line left stupidity in fact came from the stupid on-line centre 😦
― mark s, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:58 (seven months ago) link
the death knell for sure
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:58 (seven months ago) link
is random restaurant on bluesky yet?
anyone have any luck finding good art bots?
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:03 (seven months ago) link
it is on there but someone just used my code to make it, which is fine lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:04 (seven months ago) link
dang
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:07 (seven months ago) link
tbf i didnt do it and i posted the code and they credited me and i did not complain
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:48 (seven months ago) link
re: artbots
the twitter crew migrated en masse to mastodon and carefully set up there -- but i just peeked and it looks like they stopped bothering to update in march :(
there are a handful on bluesky who are maybe planning to expand the project (i don't know to what extent or if it's the twitter gang moved again): basquiat is the one i see most often
some of them did actually return to twitter tho most are far less as active than used to be and some seem to be suspended (i tried to work out what this narrative reminded me of and lol it's when franklin's ppl remanned the unfrozen terror and erebus and sailed them the the north to the south of king william island)
― mark s, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 20:47 (seven months ago) link
the bluesky artbot ppl are the twitter ppl: it's basically this guy https://twitter.com/andreitr = https://bsky.app/profile/andreitr.bsky.social
i think the sluggishness setting up may be that it's taken a while to solve some coding and automating issue
― mark s, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 21:06 (seven months ago) link
I was expecting the artbot accounts to have flowered a bit more by now but they all seem to follow the same 4 accounts. Guggenheim Collection is a good one.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 21:14 (seven months ago) link
Bluesky is still so clunky. You click on new notifications and the NEW NOTIFICATIONS number doesn't go away; you have to refresh multiple times, to make new notifications appear.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 00:07 (seven months ago) link
The threading setting is quite neat.
I dont think I must use this kind of socmed the same way you all seem to. I just want to hear from my friends. Do people just randomly follow everyone they come across?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 02:09 (seven months ago) link
The few IRL ppl I know who still have social media accounts* very rarely, if ever, post.(Insta being the exception… kid photos and such)
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 03:06 (seven months ago) link
FWIW I am still actively using bluesky, indeed more than I was a month ago, and am getting many new followers every day, whereas I've completely stopped with Threads.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 03:44 (seven months ago) link
I know a good bunch of people who mainly talk about books and a bit about music on Twitter, who are slowly shifting across. Once enough of them have I can bin the Twitter account. I don't really know anyone in the real world I can talk to about these things.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 04:35 (seven months ago) link
Deleted everything from Bluesky and split. Lots of scolds and folks going all-in on political shitposting.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 04:51 (seven months ago) link
To fine tune it... With Twitter, I could at least mix up the scolds and shitposts with recent photos of Saturn, updates on pirate radio stations on shortwave/HF, LA police pursuits, and what kinds of cupcakes are available at Erin McKenna's on Larchmont (my faves in town!). Without all that, I'm finding Bluesky in its current form feeling a lot like Facebook of all things. Endless loops of nostalgia memes punctuated by #resistanceshitpost whenever political turmoil happens.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 08:18 (seven months ago) link
tsar bombadil: if you have notifications you've checked in on and want the NEW NOTIFICATION notice to switch off, click to the home thread and back
― mark s, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 09:33 (seven months ago) link
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, October 3, 2023 8:07 PM (yesterday)
i've had to do this on twitter since forever (even before elon took over)
― 龜, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 12:04 (seven months ago) link
i doubt anyone ever unironically used the phrase "posting is praxis" to describe their own view, but many people believe (imho not unreasonably) that by posting it's possible to "shift the overton window"
― flopson, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 12:52 (seven months ago) link
thats what people will say when pressed but mostly theyre just posting because they like it
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 13:24 (seven months ago) link
depends on who and when. the praxis motive peaks during democratic primaries or around the passage of major legislation by dem administrations. there's also a subset of posters who have their pet issue and are dedicated to replying to anyone who posts about it. kinda like a stan army for politics
― flopson, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 13:47 (seven months ago) link
Cheers, Mark S
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 21:17 (seven months ago) link
5 more, if anyone is still looking:
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― Chris L, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:59 (seven months ago) link
It’s happening
https://bsky.app/profile/michelleperez.bsky.social/post/3kawvetilrz2e
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:20 (seven months ago) link
Who is that
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:33 (seven months ago) link
I'm at @jimbooo, although lord knows I don't need any more things to distract me online.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:49 (seven months ago) link
The Following, Discover, and Popular With Friends tabs all show me the same people and posts... why is this site so half-baked
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:01 (seven months ago) link
When I've tried using 'Discover', it keeps showing me posts I've already seen, sifted in / resorted with posts I haven't (i.e., it doesn't show me posts once and then keep adding new ones; it seems to keep throwing old ones back in). So I don't use it anymore...
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:03 (seven months ago) link
Honestly I barely look at my other saved "Feeds" any longer, except maybe the Bob Dylan one
Back on the “fake accounts” tip…
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Sunday, 8 October 2023 21:35 (seven months ago) link
not sure if this impersonator guy is who he says he is
― lag∞n, Sunday, 8 October 2023 21:42 (seven months ago) link
yeah those arne't 'fake accounts' they are obvious spam junk accounts. I mean I guess those are 'fake' but they don't appear to be impersonating anyone
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 8 October 2023 21:47 (seven months ago) link
Yeah I didn’t mean impersonation accts, that’s a separate issue (I’ve reported one a few times that I guess just won’t be acted on). You’d think they would have restricted certain other words from appearing in handles back during that last episode, but I guess not
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Monday, 9 October 2023 01:26 (seven months ago) link
I mean look it’s not a surprise; when they rolled out their moderation system based on 3rd-party labeling, and ppl were pointing out how it could be used for targeted abuse, that guy Paul made it clear that the idea hadn’t even occurred to them… like they hadn’t spent a minute thinking about it beyond “this enables us to avoid taking responsibility for moderation, which is the goal of this enterprise”
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Monday, 9 October 2023 01:34 (seven months ago) link
is there no way on web to view quote posts of a post
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 17:44 (seven months ago) link
are there any feeds that have good posts ive got "what hot classic" (bad posts) and "popular with friends" (almost entirely posts from people im already following)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:30 (seven months ago) link
I got followed by Satan, so there is that.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 01:03 (seven months ago) link
Agree that "Popular with friends" is useless. "For You" and "Home+" are better than "What's Hot Classic".
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 01:34 (seven months ago) link
do these links work?
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:2wqomm3tjqbgktbrfwgvrw34/feed/home-plushttps://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:wqowuobffl66jv3kpsvo7ak4/feed/the-algorithm
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 01:35 (seven months ago) link
yeah looked at for you it was better but still a lot of selfies and other shit im not really interested in in there
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 01:37 (seven months ago) link
if you don't like my selfies then just mute me
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 01:38 (seven months ago) link
listen man you just gotta invest in one of those ring lights
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 01:40 (seven months ago) link
can you just post the list names, because the first time I clicked through it timed out twice, and the second time it just took me to my following feed I had open -_-
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 03:11 (seven months ago) link
theres one called for you
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 03:17 (seven months ago) link
“For you” is official as in maintained by bsky.
There’s one called “home*” which iirc was the first contributed feed that was algorithmic in a more complicated way than “>n likes” or “about subject X” but it seems to be broken for me right now.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 03:44 (seven months ago) link
Home+ not home* sorry
this site is starting to get good imo.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:18 (seven months ago) link
i need to follow more people but im trying not to follow too many jounalists-punits, trying for a feed of chill funny people but idk its tough
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 October 2023 17:27 (seven months ago) link
'OnlyPosts' is the feed i check the most other than 'Following' as it does what it saysi.e. only the posts of folks you follow and nothing else.
― mark e, Thursday, 26 October 2023 17:30 (seven months ago) link
some codes:
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― Roz, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 03:47 (seven months ago) link
Yeah the filters like only posts are v useful.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 04:05 (seven months ago) link
Thanks for sharing the codes, Roz. Gonna give this platform a try
― sknybrg, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 04:45 (seven months ago) link
bsky-social-dm55f-air3mbsky-social-452ru-cph3rbsky-social-b6ov2-bsu2p
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 05:50 (seven months ago) link
is the strategy is to keep requiring codes until nobody cares anymore
― BEWARE! SPOOKY! BOO! (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 15:04 (seven months ago) link
then they'll be able to handle the traffic i guess
they say its part of their moderation scheme, if scammers spammers the banned etc cant make infinite accounts theyre much easier to control
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 15:11 (seven months ago) link
it's a decent tactic. just keep requiring codes until everyone who is actively seeking to join a new social site has it, then move on to general use
reminds me of the very old days where gmail initially required an invite, and facebook was limited to certain universities, then by college email addresses for a couple years
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 15:13 (seven months ago) link
you also end up with more people who have actually engaged with others on other social networks. if you can't get a code, you either have no one to ask, or the people you're asking are not giving you a code for a reason
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 15:14 (seven months ago) link
ty truly-- i don't know/haven't learned what data and history actually seem to show about the strategy-- to bystander me it's just "wow, they're still passcoding."
― BEWARE! SPOOKY! BOO! (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 15:20 (seven months ago) link
Yep, I had to get an invite for my first Gmail account. Don't even remember who gave it to me.
― read-only (unperson), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 20:03 (seven months ago) link
Anybody else need codes?
― Cow_Art, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 20:06 (seven months ago) link
I've also got a bunch of codes, I'll post them if anybody needs them
― silverfish, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 20:15 (seven months ago) link
i made like $200 selling gmail invites on ebay back in the day
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 20:31 (seven months ago) link
lmao
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 20:36 (seven months ago) link
I remember Gmail codes! I think I ended up with an early adopter gmail because they gave them to people who also had... something accounts. I forget what, now. Photobucket or flickr or something.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 01:52 (seven months ago) link
Probably not flickr, they were in the pocket of Big Yahoo!
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 06:04 (seven months ago) link
Anyway, I tweeted that I had 4 bsky codes a couple nights ago because everyone I'd offer one to in a dm is already over there. Hoping to cast a wider net among people I follow/follow me and I got *crickets*. tbh the migration seems largely complete based on who I've always followed on twitter. Not everyone is a regular user yet, and some never will be, but almost everyone's there already.
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 06:08 (seven months ago) link
My tweeting and retweeting has gone way up during this ongoing genocide. There’s mostly like 5 people on there who still pay attention, and it wouldn’t matter much even if it was thousands more, but I’m compelled to do it. No offense to anyone who’s getting anything out of it but I check in to look at bluesky and it feels irrelevant right now.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 06:34 (seven months ago) link
fwiw, I never used Twitter and don’t want to use Bluesky, I mostly lurk in these threads because I want to see these platforms fail lmfao
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 11:24 (seven months ago) link
I'm on Bluesky and Twitter, still get better interactions + better content on the latter.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 11:53 (seven months ago) link
I am very happy with Bluesky; in re Chris L’s point I’m seeing plenty of discussion and posts about Gaza there, so I guess it’s all down to who’s being followed. I take Alfred’s point about conversation feeling smoother on Twitter in comparison but, well, if you’re at a party and trying to have a chat, when the host is yelling all the time and welcoming the Nazis to the front door, why hang further?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 12:57 (seven months ago) link
That's it, though. Maybe I've curated my feed well, for I don't see much of any haranguing unless I'm looking for it.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 13:05 (seven months ago) link
Bluesky is feeling pretty Twitter 2010 to me rn which is good.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 13:21 (seven months ago) link
Bluesky's directed me to excellent Levant-related content, I'll say.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 13:31 (seven months ago) link
The big difference is I have been reading and trying to retweet numerous Palestinian and pro-Palestinian voices, none of whom would be on bluesky.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:25 (seven months ago) link
on bluesky if a post you replied to is deleted seems like your reply is deleted as well, kinda sucks, a cool thing about twitter is replies are first class posts in their own right
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:32 (seven months ago) link
I think a lot of it is user-facing behavior? If you block someone, you don't see your replies to them anymore, either. Unblock them and it's back.
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:33 (seven months ago) link
oh maybe it works the other way too when theyve blocked me
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:35 (seven months ago) link
i can still find my reply in question in search but when i click on it i get this post has been deleted
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:36 (seven months ago) link
it actually says
Post not foundThe post may have been deleted.
https://bsky.app/profile/friendo.bsky.social/post/3kd3azj6ete2s
The Stephen King account says: "There is an impersonation warning on my account, but it’s really me. Just hasn’t been used lately." (The warning reads: The moderators believe this account is lying about their identity.)
They're gonna need some sort of verification system if they ever want public figures to join in real numbers.
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 16:19 (seven months ago) link
yeah seems like theyre going for a pretty bare bones approach so far which is prob wise, theyve only raised $8m so far from what i can tell, staffing up stuff like verification moderation celebrity concierge service etc will be expensive and prob comes later
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 16:34 (seven months ago) link
verification is already implemented in the way they plan to do it, https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/4-28-2023-domain-handle-tutorial
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 21:00 (seven months ago) link
Sounds like a big lift.
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 21:09 (seven months ago) link
also it doesnt prevent anyone from impersonating you
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 21:11 (seven months ago) link
(I guess I see how the "newsroom" thing would work, for organizations that would take the time to do that – but yeah, I don't understand why I couldn't buy a domain and say I'm "Tom Cruise" or whoever.)
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 21:12 (seven months ago) link
Bluesky is not going to affirmatively verify anyone which is complicated and expensive. They rely on domain control for that. But they are actively flagging accounts as impersonation which is cheap. They would flag @iamtomcruise.com quickly based on current behavior.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 21:34 (seven months ago) link
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Wednesday, November 1, 2023 5:09 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
So was getting verified at Twitter?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 21:35 (seven months ago) link
Getting a blue check in 2022 involved sending Twitter photo id and making/receiving phone calls and physical mail. No celebrity is going to send photo id to a shitty startup.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 21:38 (seven months ago) link
Well I guess it will have to wait until they're no longer a shitty startup(?)
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 21:40 (seven months ago) link
It'd take little effort for a domain registrar to give you a little walkthrough or one-click "set up my bluesky identity" option. And if, for example, the nytimes wanted to verify reporters they could set up a reportername.bsky.nytimes.com relatively trivially, too.
Most orgs are going to have a domain, and if someone enterprising wanted to do a verification service specifically for bluesky, you could make a "verified.user" domain or whatever company that could give tomcruise.verified.user or w/e and it'd be on them to be reputable
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 21:44 (seven months ago) link
who is the hypothetical person who wants to be verified but has no resources?
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 21:45 (seven months ago) link
I'm a little testy because I have been annoyed by the complete junky mess that federated identity became that left us with "log in with google, facebook, or apple" as opposed to what it could have been
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 21:47 (seven months ago) link
seems liked itd be better to just not start a social media site
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 21:47 (seven months ago) link
It's not about having no resources. If Stephen King didn't bother to do it (assuming that's really him), why would any other random celeb / public figure who's mildly interested in signing up, but not enough to bother with the domain thing? Maybe I'm wrong, but relying on "crowd reporting" plus some moderator oversight to identify potential impersonations feels unsustainable.
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 21:49 (seven months ago) link
FWIW, I've seen ppl complaining about verification issues on other sites, I know that this problem isn't unique to Bluesky (or easy to deal with).
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 21:50 (seven months ago) link
Huh that domain as verification which piggybacks on the verification that was done there is cool. Not as good as my idea which is to use use your social sec no. as your handle, i mean so much verification.
― BEWARE! SPOOKY! BOO! (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 22:16 (seven months ago) link
Not everyone is an American with a social sec no.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 22:37 (seven months ago) link
Says he, completely missing the joke, argh.
I admit I also don't really understand how the domain thing verifies anything other than the fact you own or control a domain.
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 22:44 (seven months ago) link
It verifies you are the same entity as owner of the domain. This is only useful if people trust that the owner of nytimes.com is The New York Times.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 23:09 (seven months ago) link
Right, and if you don't have a storied website at a domain (or plan on building one)...?
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 23:13 (seven months ago) link
"storied" is a bit strong. just needs to be a website that people who know who A is also believe belongs to A. A doesn't need to be famous.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 November 2023 02:25 (seven months ago) link
(i said x but had to change it because that was confusing. fuck that guy.)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 November 2023 02:26 (seven months ago) link
Having to build & host a website which convincingly establishes your identity is not only a very 1998 idea of being online, but it surely a greater lift for verification than whatever Twitter required for all those blue checks…
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Thursday, 2 November 2023 02:40 (seven months ago) link
it kind of unclear exactly what theyre going for, you cant see posts unless youre logged in, thats not a twitter replacement, twitter is all about blasting posts out to everywhere put them on tv in the newspaper etc
― lag∞n, Thursday, 2 November 2023 02:45 (seven months ago) link
i don't think there are many people who would have "deserved" verification in the ~2022 blue check sense (i.e. celebrities, journalists, businesses) who do not have their own website or work for someone who does.
i get that it's not perfect, but i can't think of anything better, and twitter 2022/instagram's approach is not viable for a startup.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 November 2023 02:53 (seven months ago) link
you cant see posts unless youre logged in
this is admittedly very weird. it's not even true in any technical sense. it's just a limitation of how they've built they're first party front end. there are a bunch of places you can go to see a given user's feed if you know their username.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 November 2023 02:54 (seven months ago) link
yeah its weird all posts are available on the skychain
― lag∞n, Thursday, 2 November 2023 02:56 (seven months ago) link
the way to do verification is achieve scale by allowing jokers to impersonate celebs then you have enough money to hire people to kick the jokers off
When T2 launched (which is truly a janky startup), they were doing it via scheduling a Zoom call with one of the founders, where you wave your ID in front of the camera (for like $5). And ppl were doing it! Then they switched to some 3rd-party verification service. I can get why, like, Paul Rudd wouldn't want to do that; but I would think a writer may prefer it, over having their verification tied to their current employer? Idk
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Thursday, 2 November 2023 04:01 (seven months ago) link
By the way (so as not to end the night on a down note) – I've been using a custom feed which I built via blueskyfeeds.com. It's easy, and a nice way to pull together posts using your favorite keywords, if you're so inclined.
(The bummer is that you still see Bad Posts, and now they're Bad Posts using your favorite keywords, so... they may seem extra bad.)
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Thursday, 2 November 2023 04:02 (seven months ago) link
yeah i think the "journalist that changes jobs" situation is not clear under this verification model. i'm not sure if you can change usernames yet.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 November 2023 13:39 (seven months ago) link
I think people impersonating people who are known mostly for being posters is a bigger threat than people impersonating celebrities unless you’re counting scams. Anyone with a presence in media or something like a CEO is pretty easy to verify by going to their job’s website and seeing if the handle linked there matches the one on social media
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:06 (seven months ago) link
if you think lebron james wants you to enter your social security number and credit card number to send you bitcoin you probably have bigger issues
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:07 (seven months ago) link
what if he has 10 macbooks to sell
― lag∞n, Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:08 (seven months ago) link
that could be a deal
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:16 (seven months ago) link
It definitely makes sense for something like a brand, a gov’t agency, etc.
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:17 (seven months ago) link
i really dislike the .bskysocial at the end of every handle. it’s one of the lamest ugliest and most “mastodon energy” things about the site. and i don’t want to register a domain to be at the end of my handle, i just want nothing. as long as they keep the invite-only system, if they just ban people for impersonating, shouldn’t be too much of a problem since it would be costly to get back in each time. so those two design features seem complementary
― flopson, Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:18 (seven months ago) link
it is exactly like mastodon because the intention is to allow posts to be federated and they’re hoping multiple providers pop up and join the network
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:22 (seven months ago) link
I do see accounts with other suffixes, so I guess ppl are setting up their own AT Protocol servers?
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:46 (seven months ago) link
IIUC those are just people using custom domain names as handles. Federation is not turned on yet.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 November 2023 17:22 (seven months ago) link
suspect that all this federation protocols etc is just gonna end up a largely pointless hassle, most people dont care they just wanna post, bluesky doesnt even have dms gdamn
― lag∞n, Thursday, 2 November 2023 17:34 (seven months ago) link
xp Ah, thanks... I wasn't sure what was happening there.
TBH, I'm not even totally clear of the value of federation in the ActivityPub "fediverse." From what I understood, getting two servers to talk to each other (whether they're running the same software or not – Mastodon or any of the others) is all dependent on whether the folks running the server you're on decide to flip the switch... and you could switch servers, but... It just feels highly speculative in terms of future benefit, for something that folks in that world are so focused on.
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Thursday, 2 November 2023 18:10 (seven months ago) link
Yeah there’s a tension right now because bsky is pretty close to what people want, but their roadmap is to turn it into one part of a system that no one except tpot libertarians, blockchain people and other cranks want.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 November 2023 18:16 (seven months ago) link
I do like how the AT Protocol allows you to bring your posts & followers with you if you switch servers; that def seems like an improvement over how ActivityPub works (not that I really understand why folks on Mastodon go around switching servers all the time...).
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Thursday, 2 November 2023 18:20 (seven months ago) link
I think federation is overall good but no one has done it in a way that people like with twitter-like social media. That and the fact that people don’t really think of things as service providers, they think of them as platforms. I ostensibly have an email account that my internet service provider has given me, but I never use that. I use mostly gmail outside of work, because it’s convenient and I shrug off the monetization aspect. But I at least recognize that email is an open protocol and I could jump providers at any time. The pedant in me finally stopped cringing due to my associating things this way. “Do you have a facebook?” always bugged me because you have a facebook account or facebook page. Your entire presence there isn’t yours at all, and it’s not portable. If I have, say, a wordpress.com site I can export the entire thing and host it elsewhere with no one being the wiser as long as I’m not using a bunch of obvious proprietary junk. So you have a website. I know phone numbers are passé for nearly all messaging but even those are portable. I’m not asking someone for their Verizon. Sorry, felt like shouting into the void
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 2 November 2023 22:04 (seven months ago) link
I've been "enjoying" (more or less) using three different platforms, for different purposes. When I post, I mostly post different stuff on each one, and in a different "voice" (not in a performative way; more in the sense that the vibe & features of each platform sort of mold how I post there). Occasionally I'll post the same thing to a few of them, just to see what happens. (Nothing much, in my case...)
― More skin on 'Love Boat' (morrisp), Thursday, 2 November 2023 22:16 (seven months ago) link
bsky-social-qzync-tysnp
― nashwan, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 14:24 (six months ago) link
they are testing federation now for whatever reason and whatever good that will do
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 16:03 (six months ago) link
under the covers, the replication and distribution that sites like twitter do are basically internal federation. it's just transparent to the users and means that only one provider controls the entire network
bluesky itself could tank but users could shift to another provider in the federation network
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 16:43 (six months ago) link
I dislike fediverse structure because any server can just go away at any time, which is precisely what happened to me when I tried mastodon for a bit - luckily I hadnt invested any time/real posts but the server was shut down presumably by whoever ran it so my account just vanished without warning or notification.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 November 2023 01:40 (six months ago) link
It just makes me think of the old IRC server structure. I feel like the people I know who like this crap are the same ppl who wish Usenet would come back.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 November 2023 01:41 (six months ago) link
Don't tell FediTips (@fedit✧✧✧@ms✧✧✧.soc✧✧✧), who insists that being on a big server (specifically, mastodon.social – the one I'm on), is bad for Reasons ("it just recreates the centralized experience," or something); and the ethical thing when joining Mastodon is to be on a small, boutique server.
― Phair · Jagger/Richards · Carl Perkins (morrisp), Thursday, 9 November 2023 01:46 (six months ago) link
(ha, weird, I didn't know those redactions would be triggered)
I had a different Mastodon account earlier in the year (before shutting it down and rejoining more recently) – that server would have an hour or two of downtime most nights, it was absurd.
― Phair · Jagger/Richards · Carl Perkins (morrisp), Thursday, 9 November 2023 01:48 (six months ago) link
bsky-social-cy6at-52no4bsky-social-z5v4o-3daikbsky-social-j6no3-7ms4f
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 9 November 2023 01:59 (six months ago) link
I won't let this slander pass - Usenet was distributed exactly to avoid anyone being able to close a part of it down by taking their ball and going home.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 9 November 2023 02:04 (six months ago) link
It also spawned ILX, for better or worse.
― nickn, Thursday, 9 November 2023 02:16 (six months ago) link
Yeah tbh I liked Usenet as well. I was just shortcutting to "very oldschool user" trope.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 November 2023 05:17 (six months ago) link
Finally on: ephender.bsky.social
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2023 17:05 (six months ago) link
wait usenet spawned ilx?? i thought new york london paris munich / freaky trigger spawned ilx because wordpress comments didn’t work
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:57 (six months ago) link
Right, but a significant portion of the Freaky Trigger nucleus came from alt.music.alternative
― the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:58 (six months ago) link
Ned was a mainstay of a.m.a in the early 90s
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 9 November 2023 21:02 (six months ago) link
Even pre alt.music.alternative was rec.music.misc, which had some future ILXors (including me).
― nickn, Thursday, 9 November 2023 21:46 (six months ago) link
Or maybe they were concurrent, but I remember us abandoning r.m.m for a.m.a when the former started to become more spam than content (which happened to a.m.a as well).
― nickn, Thursday, 9 November 2023 21:48 (six months ago) link
yeah I was a Usenet head from about 1992 to 2007 or so - this is the only place which has a similar vibe.
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 9 November 2023 22:29 (six months ago) link
My Usenet haunts back in the day was alt.techsupport.recovery and aus.gothic.
Years worth of inane dribble, lost to the ether. Well not completely lost - its all still there in Google Groups but the weird formatitng makes it impossible to follow really.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 10 November 2023 04:45 (six months ago) link
sorry it was aus.culture.gothic. Confusing my Usenet and my IRC!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 10 November 2023 04:46 (six months ago) link
alt.music.pearl-jam babyee
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 November 2023 04:52 (six months ago) link
bendy and i were on alt.music.chapel-hill
― mookieproof, Friday, 10 November 2023 16:12 (six months ago) link
man rec.bicycles.racing got increasingly astonishingly hostile and weird and insider-y after i'd been around there for a couple years, like late 90s, it def made me unlikely to branch out or stay.
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Friday, 10 November 2023 16:14 (six months ago) link
this is true of literally every usenet group I ever saw tho
― stet, Friday, 10 November 2023 18:43 (six months ago) link
bsky-social-qxllh-e2xbtbsky-social-pneey-yi5vabsky-social-d2s76-n5vpgbsky-social-xbqaa-icpvobsky-social-rjd7f-a27gi
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 11 November 2023 23:05 (six months ago) link
maybe those two groups are complete but google only archived a fraction of Usenet posts overall (another reason that following threads is often impossible)
― vashti funyuns (sic), Sunday, 12 November 2023 17:21 (six months ago) link
Yeah sorry when I say its "all still there" it of course likely isnt, but I've certainly been able to find plenty of the 99-2002 era I was posting. And yeah a lot of threading's broken/mucked up.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 13 November 2023 05:08 (six months ago) link
Unfortunately for years now it's all been a wasteland of spam and porn and porn spam.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 13 November 2023 05:10 (six months ago) link
congrats to Ned on doing numbers
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 00:20 (six months ago) link
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 02:35 (six months ago) link
It has been a DAY.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 03:52 (six months ago) link
i think youre forgetting about whos really important here, the christian baby
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 04:05 (six months ago) link
very disappointed Ned's first plug wasn't ilx
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 13:08 (six months ago) link
how is christian babby formed
― rob, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 15:11 (six months ago) link
blimey, now albini is moving in on the parachuting baby chaos.was a weird 5 mins when i woke up and checked my bluesky app this morning to say the least.
― mark e, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:01 (six months ago) link
Roffle.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:20 (six months ago) link
wait is the baby parachute thing really based on a quora question? like that's some content starvation stuff
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:30 (six months ago) link
yeah and apparently its a series
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:mxbft4m75i7frqznbpvimsza/bafkreiddmslo366z3ey4o4inpdvht6yfkr5522mmnuclfh3qgcrerckjya@jpeg
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:32 (six months ago) link
the wording is a bit unclear but it appears to be asking if you would it a home run with a christian baby or just a sac fly
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:33 (six months ago) link
the original via ned for those not up on the latest blue sky news https://bsky.app/profile/nedraggett.bsky.social/post/3ke5ypctefc2o
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:kqdyhnklmmv34nmml6btyqv6/bafkreibenzfhi547b2xtqcv53af3vuisvls3lum5f2emchmra2aw6cduau@jpeg
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:35 (six months ago) link
these are the dumbest things and I really wanna expound at great length on how poisoned the view of God they propose is. the "for money" one is a no-brainer and so's the other one. God's omniscient. he knows you renounced Jesus because the baby made you do it to save both of your lives, He's not mad because He's not a child. Godalfuckinmighty this shit chafes me. I did what I had to do and when the kid grew up he apologized, we're square now.
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:39 (six months ago) link
those aren't the baseball words, I'm reasonably confident
― rob, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:40 (six months ago) link
Supposedly the original poster of these and similar nonsense is a really vicious and hateful troll, which sounds about right, sadly.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:41 (six months ago) link
Lie to the baby to get it to pull the chute, then explain how this proves there is no God once safely on the ground.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:41 (six months ago) link
id be like sure whatever you want skydiving talking baby ive never seen any shit like this before
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:42 (six months ago) link
smh why not try engaging the baby in rational debate
― rob, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:43 (six months ago) link
j/k, I don't negotiate with babies
― rob, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:45 (six months ago) link
to be fair, most parents don't.
― mark e, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:46 (six months ago) link
yeah this. oh wow mr. baby you just exploded the whole concept of reality and there's no way we're not living in a simulation now, sure, I renounce all gods high and low, I sing the body electric, what fuckin ever
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:48 (six months ago) link
I’d be all “how are things at E*TRADE these days”
― the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:51 (six months ago) link
"hello are you the boss baby"
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:51 (six months ago) link
quora's always been a trip to look at for different reasons but now there seems to be a whole lot of trolling
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 20:44 (six months ago) link
Yeah it’s jumped the baby shark
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 20:51 (six months ago) link
https://bsky.app/profile/bsky.app/post/3ked2oybdjf2k
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:36 (six months ago) link
crazy idea
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:37 (six months ago) link
You'd think they'd prioritize some other stuff.
― Phair · Jagger/Richards · Carl Perkins (morrisp), Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:42 (six months ago) link
got my first bluesky like from an egirl bot today, its becoming a real app
https://i.imgur.com/DqkayP9.png
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 18:20 (six months ago) link
ask a beginner question and get a reply from a legend of the field, the promises of twitter and its clones is still alive
https://i.imgur.com/d1UTGPt.png
― lag∞n, Saturday, 2 December 2023 19:10 (six months ago) link
This kind of happened to me recently, re: a Twin Peaks question someone idly asked (I looped in a podcast guy, who mentioned Mark Frost & Harley Peyton; then someone looped in both those guys, who are apparently on Bluesky; and Peyton addressed the question).
― This field is required (morrisp), Saturday, 2 December 2023 19:36 (six months ago) link
siick
― lag∞n, Saturday, 2 December 2023 19:37 (six months ago) link
what was the question
― lag∞n, Saturday, 2 December 2023 19:49 (six months ago) link
This was the original post in the thread
― This field is required (morrisp), Saturday, 2 December 2023 20:10 (six months ago) link
nice
― lag∞n, Sunday, 3 December 2023 05:12 (five months ago) link
https://bsky.app/profile/pfrazee.com/post/3kh3ndyijp52o
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 December 2023 00:34 (five months ago) link
They should work on letting you edit posts… after getting used to that function on Threads and Mastodon, not being able to do it kind of stinks!
― I wanna key his car, I wanna make him lunch (morrisp), Friday, 22 December 2023 00:37 (five months ago) link
do anyone want invite or have we hit ilx saturation
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 22 December 2023 02:16 (five months ago) link
i have an invite! does your ilxmail work?
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Friday, 22 December 2023 02:33 (five months ago) link
lol read that too quickly and thought you were looking for one, nvm
(i have the codes)
wasn't in the market but somehow gram came at me about how my friends want me on threads so baaad, so i joined that today. i might not come back, going to look for the threads thread now
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 December 2023 02:36 (five months ago) link
Im on threads but my strategy is to only have one thread. I’ve been posting to myself for months on my one thread, and I don’t think it notifies anyone. This is a good thing! It’s a social media network so I understand how it uses an algorithm to try to make more interesting to others, and in my case it has quickly determined it can make any money off of me! It’s just like damn, no, threads hates you and that is probably right
― z_tbd, Friday, 22 December 2023 04:33 (five months ago) link
oops, sorry, *can't make any money off of me
but of course,
** yes it can make money off of me anyway, but only a little bit
― z_tbd, Friday, 22 December 2023 04:37 (five months ago) link
cute, lack of a head is kind of troubling tho
https://i.imgur.com/lS5FKtC.png
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 December 2023 19:37 (five months ago) link
it's the colonel sanders bowtie and collar area
― z_tbd, Friday, 22 December 2023 19:40 (five months ago) link
new bluesky app logo looks bad
― 龜, Sunday, 24 December 2023 00:20 (five months ago) link
oh that’s what lagoon posted abt
i keep tryna imagine the secret way it’s actually good and i def cannot. maybe making it blue like the burd will give somehow anal musk a stroke
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Sunday, 24 December 2023 03:44 (five months ago) link
I guess I don’t realize how much they were aping the Twitter look until I saw the new (iOS) app icon on my phone.
― I wanna key his car, I wanna make him lunch (morrisp), Sunday, 24 December 2023 03:58 (five months ago) link
it's bad. i think the ceo likes butterflies?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 24 December 2023 04:04 (five months ago) link
Btw, the logo’s designer hinted today (…on Threads…) that a UI rehaul is also in the works.
― I wanna key his car, I wanna make him lunch (morrisp), Sunday, 24 December 2023 04:07 (five months ago) link
lolhttps://bsky.app/profile/boobliette.bsky.social/post/3kht55d7fry2o
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 31 December 2023 14:30 (five months ago) link
i have no issue with the butterfly?
BTW, media embeds (video, from youtube, critically) now work, I see
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 31 December 2023 16:58 (five months ago) link
Finally got my invite today. Who is worth following on this app?
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Sunday, 7 January 2024 18:03 (four months ago) link
feel like the moby-dick bot has somehow gotten better on blueski?
― mookieproof, Friday, 26 January 2024 04:26 (four months ago) link
bsky-social-cy6at-52no4bsky-social-kvvl7-3pgnk
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 26 January 2024 04:29 (four months ago) link
bsky-social-iktpj-iyzku
bsky-social-mimvo-nlnox
bsky-social-ngtxv-7zbyz
bsky-social-l3ho7-nhgdr
bsky-social-mmcqm-wklnz
― z_tbd, Saturday, 3 February 2024 16:48 (three months ago) link
blue sky more like poo sky haha jk
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 16:50 (three months ago) link
did not expect poosky.com domain placeholder to be a full screen goatse reference
― z_tbd, Saturday, 3 February 2024 17:00 (three months ago) link
(it's a safe for work goatse reference, for the goatse heads that are at work right now)
― z_tbd, Saturday, 3 February 2024 17:01 (three months ago) link
heh
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 17:10 (three months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/K8ZDhgM.png
https://bsky.app/profile/zig.computer/post/3kkjkxmor6c2s
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 17:23 (three months ago) link
I bailed around the holidays… checked back in briefly this week before deleting the app from my phone. Glad it’s a place that works for some folks, everyone needs their spot online.
― jake morgendorffer core (morrisp), Saturday, 3 February 2024 17:55 (three months ago) link
I think invite only has really blunted its impact. Understand they don’t want to be swamped with new accounts and break their infra, but the slowly slowly rollout isn’t helping them gain traction.
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:06 (three months ago) link
what would qualify as gaining traction
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:12 (three months ago) link
i'm still using bsky but I feel like a lot of people I followed who came over from twitter have massively slowed their posting. Agree that they really need to open it to everyone, I'm not sure why they haven't now.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:14 (three months ago) link
the invite system is clearly part of their moderation system so is prob not going away anytime soon, we can conclude from that theyre not just trying to grow as fast as possible, so what are they doing, idk lol trying to make a good site maybe, just messing around
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:18 (three months ago) link
Don't know if I want it to gain traction, small number of accounts from people I like, that's all I'm looking for
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:32 (three months ago) link
I guess shaping the zeitgeist in the way Twitter did back in the day. Appreciate they may not want to go that route given how it became a mega(maga)phone for some toxic discourse.
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:41 (three months ago) link
i dont think theres gonna be another twitter or facebook for that matter, the age of mass posting is over, maybe there can be a baby twitter tho with journalists but without bieber
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:45 (three months ago) link
it seems like they need an infinite invite system, like, you can invite all your contacts or whatever, but those invitees cannot invite off your invite code. they'll get their own code, and have to do the same.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:49 (three months ago) link
I don’t think invites are a meaningful bottleneck. If everyone gets one invite a week and it actually gets used they’d double in size every week. Everyone on earth would be on it by now if the invites were actually getting used.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:54 (three months ago) link
you still need to get one tho someone cant just see a post in a news article or whatever go to the app store and get on bluesky
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:56 (three months ago) link
i want a graph displaying the rate of individual inviters. who are regular repeaters? like i should go check mine i must have a score of em now.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:57 (three months ago) link
I think basically everyone who wants to get on AND who they want there is on. The problem is a lot of people aren’t bothered so it’s kind of a small set. It’s big enough for me. I like it.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:58 (three months ago) link
bsky-social-veqjv-bgjxnbsky-social-z3hl4-pq6qsbsky-social-fzhr6-qgojy
be free little butterflies, be fruitful!!
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:59 (three months ago) link
let say bluesky has a viral post thats circulated far beyond their site/app, a whole new group of people become aware of bluesky, and they cannot get on
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:01 (three months ago) link
its good, and i can probably convince a couple of friends to get on once there are dms, but i cant imagine it ever being as big as peak twitter, not that it should be
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:01 (three months ago) link
Xp eh maybe. I haven’t seen someone ask for an invite for months.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:04 (three months ago) link
cmon man
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:06 (three months ago) link
I don’t think the invites are really the problem either, although they probably contributed to a certain “culture” taking root early and remaining dominantVarious people from Twitter whom I would’ve wanted to follow did make accounts there, and just don’t use them (many of them have stayed on Twitter, which is a separate issue that isn’t bluesky’s fault)
― jake morgendorffer core (morrisp), Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:11 (three months ago) link
it’s good! I like it! All I’m saying is I don’t think invites are the reason it’s seems to have stabilized as a culture. I’m sure they help with moderation but I don’t think they’re keeping out good faith users who want to be there at this point.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:14 (three months ago) link
i'd guess that quite a few people, upon leaving twitter for a few weeks without a comparable alternative, found that they enjoyed not using it anymore. everyone is always saying "ugh, i want to quit social media", but it's addictive (and often quite useful for all sorts of reasons) so they keep using it. quitting twitter without having an alternative is akin to being absolutely addicted to donkey kong country and then the SNES catches on fire and it's all over. it makes all the sense in the world to get another SNES and move on to diddy kong's quest, no one would blame you. but also it makes a lot of sense (for some people) to replace the device with more irl activities, like going to the library and finally checking out that oversized 3D illusion book
― z_tbd, Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:28 (three months ago) link
i will never check out the oversized 3D illusion book
― mark s, Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:29 (three months ago) link
Quitting Twitter was such a boon to my state of mind, no joke… I still use “nitter” to check back in on one guy there, but honestly even that makes me feel not greatI do enjoy social media though, and have been using more stress-free alternatives
― jake morgendorffer core (morrisp), Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:36 (three months ago) link
invites prob havent stopped bluesky from being huge tho theres no way to know that, but they could at some point, and for sure many people see the invite wall just bounce off and move on with their lives, generally onboarding is a big place where apps lose people, and then you add the need to hunt something down and ask around its not hard to see how this is a big barrier to getting new users, most apps these days are going in the other direction allowing for unverified quasi accounts that are easy as possible to start with then bug you to complete the sign up process once youre hooked, they do this because people give up at every step, just the need to click a single button will shed people, this of course is very obvious and i resent having to type it out
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:36 (three months ago) link
the bluesky people for sure know this so they must really like the invite system, at least for now
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:38 (three months ago) link
I've been trying to use bluesky to replace twitter as my app for news posts, still feels clunky but it's ok. I have a lot more fun on Threads, but mostly follow musicians there.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:41 (three months ago) link
threads is an excellent counter example if you have an instagram account you already had a threads account no need to sign up at all, and they turned that, along with free advertising, into the fastest growing app ever, and all your favorite brands are there lol
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:44 (three months ago) link
to be clear im not saying that bluesky is wrong in using invites, im curious to see how it turns out, but it makes it much harder than normal to get on the app, maybe thats good tho......
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:46 (three months ago) link
from their faq https://blueskyweb.xyz/faq
How many people are on the app? What is the plan for invites?We brought a few hundred beta testers onto the app in February, and by the end of April, we reached over 50k users. We plan to grow the invite system at our discretion in a way that preserves our focus on protocol development and creates a network where healthy conversations can happen.
We also want the network to grow organically, so we periodically distribute invites to existing Bluesky users. Additionally, we monitor the social graph, and if certain users are inviting other trustworthy participants, we give them more invites.
Why use invite codes?Social networks can be abused by spammers and bad actors who might want to manipulate the public conversation. It’s much easier to limit sign-ups and let them spread through an existing social graph than to try to retroactively clean up rampant network abuse.
Long-term, we view this invite code system as a piece of the open source tooling we’re building to help server admins (people running services) to help curate and moderate their communities.
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 19:49 (three months ago) link
feel like the moby-dick bot has had better quotes on bluesky than it used to on twitter?
― mookieproof, Saturday, 3 February 2024 20:19 (three months ago) link
A lot of folks activated Threads accounts and never used them, or posted once or twice and then went back to Twitter… but there’s enough of a critical mass that it works for me, and it’s the only one of the apps where I’ve been able to stomach the For You feed (in fact I find it kind of addictive). The algorithm is very hair-trigger, but it works well in keeping stuff I don’t want to see out of the feed. Generous use of muting also helps (which you can do directly from the post, ahem…).
― jake morgendorffer core (morrisp), Saturday, 3 February 2024 20:34 (three months ago) link
same here, I only do following on twitter and bluesky, but I do 100% for you on threads because you can shape it in a way that you aren't seeing constant bullshit
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 3 February 2024 20:56 (three months ago) link
I really like the feature that enables you to show only posts by people you follow, and hide replies to them or reposts by them. It clears up my feed no end. Occasionally I'll set it to show those and have a look at it but then I think nah, I can't be doing with this stuff.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Saturday, 3 February 2024 22:09 (three months ago) link
1. A bluesky post goes viral2. 10,000 people see it and think "I have something I want to say to that"3. Almost all those things are bad4. They click the link5. They can't post6. The system works
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 3 February 2024 22:18 (three months ago) link
If someone shares a bluesky link then I click it, and it just opens the app and doesn't go to the post. Are they working for anyone else?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 3 February 2024 22:20 (three months ago) link
step 6 baby
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Sunday, 4 February 2024 01:04 (three months ago) link
works for me
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 4 February 2024 14:16 (three months ago) link
Everyone I know and would want to follow is ON Bsky they just... dont post there. Or on twitter anymore. Or FB. Its like everyone's given up on socmed completely. I have too so I cant blame them rooly.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 5 February 2024 01:03 (three months ago) link
no more invite-only
https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/06/bluesky-is-now-open-for-anyone-to-join
― rob, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 14:23 (three months ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 14:30 (three months ago) link
…profit
― z_tbd, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 14:31 (three months ago) link
i have not really used the tools described in the uh comic https://bsky.social/about/blog/02-06-2024-join-bluesky
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 14:33 (three months ago) link
yeah I don't use those custom feeds either, but I might if there is a big influx of users soon
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 14:36 (three months ago) link
i have tried some of the feeds but did not enjoy them, but stacking moderation? ok
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 14:39 (three months ago) link
moderation is prob the most difficult problem for social media sites, seems like blue sky is trying to self service it, good luck to them
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 14:40 (three months ago) link
Computer Science > Distributed, Parallel, and Cluster Computing[Submitted on 5 Feb 2024]Bluesky and the AT Protocol: Usable Decentralized Social Media
Bluesky is a new social network built upon the AT Protocol, a decentralized foundation for public social media. It was launched in private beta in February 2023, and has grown to over 3 million registered users in the following year. In this paper we introduce the architecture of Bluesky and the AT Protocol, which is inspired by the web itself, but modernized to include streams of real-time updates and cryptographic authentication. We explain how the technical design of Bluesky is informed by our goals: to enable decentralization by having multiple interoperable providers for every part of the system; to make it easy for users to switch providers; to give users agency over the content they see; and to provide a simple user experience that does not burden users with complexity arising from the system's decentralized nature. The system's openness allows anybody to contribute to content moderation and community management, and we invite the research community to use Bluesky as a dataset and testing ground for new approaches in social media moderation.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.03239
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 16:59 (three months ago) link
now we can break the "why would I join a social network that requires an invite, seems elitist" -> "there are plenty of invites. I have some. would you like one?" -> back to the beginning loop
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 17:50 (three months ago) link
its funny and sad all the bluesky die hards giving new people instructions on the best way to use bluesky, promote bluesky culture, good luck all
https://i.imgur.com/sHQbrZ4.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/vsFzUNH.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/9rsqMEF.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/8DFO0Y0.png
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:27 (three months ago) link
"Block anyone who mildly annoys you"--that doesn't seem like the best strategy, but what do I know.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:30 (three months ago) link
excessive blocking by a significant % of users will eventually deteriorate the overall user experience, dont think theyve really thought this one through
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:31 (three months ago) link
Going by that criterion, I would have blocked my children years ago.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:33 (three months ago) link
why are you still asking me for dinner i blocked you, mods
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:35 (three months ago) link
I owe NOTHING to you
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:50 (three months ago) link
1 grilled cheese
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:51 (three months ago) link
I'm 100% in favor of blocking anyone who mildly annoys you
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:13 (three months ago) link
congrats
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:15 (three months ago) link
blocking is unpaid labor
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:26 (three months ago) link
blocking is sex work
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:26 (three months ago) link
only if you do it right
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:27 (three months ago) link
I'm loving the handwringing about the barbarians storming the gate if only to laugh at the incredible self regard Bluesky holds itself in
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:35 (three months ago) link
my precious twitter clone lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:36 (three months ago) link
wonder if theres actually even any big rush of sign ups today
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:37 (three months ago) link
the incredible self regard Bluesky holds itself in
It's positively Tumblr-esque.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:38 (three months ago) link
im not seeing any of this stuff tbh but as a non-loser i follow interesting funny ppl
― mark s, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:39 (three months ago) link
i see a bit of it rted from one account i follow but besides that yeah not much, some people making fun of it, i like to see it tho its good to know whats going on, thats why i never block
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:40 (three months ago) link
i block like Yglesias and a few music dudes i can't stand it's good for my soul
― a (waterface), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:45 (three months ago) link
blocking is very good for people who are constantly inventing a guy to argue with (and pretending you're the guy) or reply-guy trolls. other people that are minor annoyances are just worth muting so you don't see large portions of a thread disappear in the default client
wonder if the former Tweetbot people are considering a bsky client in addition to their mastodon one. I checked out Graysky for a bit and it wasn't different enough for me to care that much
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:46 (three months ago) link
i hate social media but have gotten hooked on twitter so hoping it dies, no desire to recreate it with another website with an annoying name.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:52 (three months ago) link
Wouldn't have thought that "blocking other accounts for any reason at any time is totally acceptable" was unique to "Bluesky culture."
― jaymc, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:04 (three months ago) link
I mean, I never blocked very many people on Twitter myself, but it seemed like a lot of other people curated their experience that way, especially people with large followings and/or who experienced a lot of harassment, and that didn't seem particularly controversial to me. That's what the block button was for.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:07 (three months ago) link
I mute pretty liberally on social media (blocking less so, but for sure if someone is being a jerk or seems like someone I wouldn’t even want seeing/engaging with my posts).
― atmospheric river phoenix (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:12 (three months ago) link
(On Bluesky I also relied heavily on the topic/interest feeds, and the custom feed that I set up)
― atmospheric river phoenix (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:13 (three months ago) link
I will mute based on vibes alone, it’s often not even a negative judgment really, just “this isn’t the kind of thing I’m here to see”
― atmospheric river phoenix (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:14 (three months ago) link
its fine with me if people want to mute and block til the cows come home none of my business but a society (website) that has blocking as a core spiritual practice is doomed (because too many posts will be hidden)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:16 (three months ago) link
muting is really the more socially conscious choice, save blocking for major cases
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:17 (three months ago) link
― jaymc, Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:04 PM (twenty-four minutes ago)
the culture on twitter was really weird about this! people would brag about getting someone to block them, obsess over who followed/unfollowed them, etc. And people with large accounts were paradoxically less likely to block than mute, because genuinely threatening people would take a block as their impetus to rally others to harass
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:32 (three months ago) link
I see none of this in eitehr bsky or twitter prob cos i dont engage with those kind of accounts at all, but honestly if anyone I do follow starts RTing realy loud whingey idpol tone police fuckers, I'll just mute/unfollow, meh.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 23:08 (three months ago) link
https://bsky.app/profile/retr0.id/post/3kkrhtm2fa32k
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 00:05 (three months ago) link
realy loud whingey idpol tone police fucker
There's a screen name in there.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 00:06 (three months ago) link
The tone police they come to me in my skeets
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 00:24 (three months ago) link
excessive blocking by a significant % of users will eventually deteriorate the overall user experience
the whole idea is to deteriorate the overall user experience
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 00:41 (three months ago) link
oh well that does make more sense now
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 00:47 (three months ago) link
wonder if theres actually even any big rush of sign ups todayhttps://bsky.app/profile/retr0.id/post/3kkrhtm2fa32k
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, February 6, 2024 7:05 PM (forty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
saw a big account say they gained 1k followers, get em blue sky app
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 00:48 (three months ago) link
ceo says they got 100k+ new users https://bsky.app/profile/jay.bsky.team/post/3kks2tja2sm2q
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 01:06 (three months ago) link
i forgot til just now that i added like 8 block lists immediately upon signing up, guess it works. i did have to manually mute tom scocca, guy is a machine
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 10:47 (three months ago) link
I wasn’t aware that the Bluesky CEO was a crypto maven, so assume it’s already in a death spiral now.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 10:59 (three months ago) link
they’re more “protocol” people (ie poly libertarians) than crypto per se IIUC.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 14:04 (three months ago) link
they had 550k new users in the past 24 hours.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 14:09 (three months ago) link
xp oh boy that's one interesting way to put it
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 16:13 (three months ago) link
the CEO worked for two crypto companies for a few years, dunno that that makes them a maven.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 19:20 (three months ago) link
I wish the desktop browser version would keep the back arrow glued to the top of the screen when you scroll through replies on a post. It's a small complaint because you can go back by hitting the home icon or your browser back button, but I still find myself scrolling back to the top of posts to do this and then getting annoyed.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 22:41 (three months ago) link
yes that is completely annoying
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 23:08 (three months ago) link
ask that guy Paul to do it.
Good feed https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:vpkhqolt662uhesyj6nxm7ys/feed/infreq
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 8 February 2024 03:39 (three months ago) link
The only one from that list that I'm following is Satan. Surprising that he is considered quiet.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 8 February 2024 03:40 (three months ago) link
xp nice, that one is half ilx people for me
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 8 February 2024 04:02 (three months ago) link
i like how much jamelle bouie has Had Enough with his reply guys on this site
https://bsky.app/profile/jbouie.bsky.social/post/3kkyhdldmvi27
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 February 2024 14:01 (three months ago) link
he blocked me for being a reply guy so I can't read it (I like him, but have always found his social media presence a bit willfully obtuse...he said something quite a while ago that everyone misinterpreted, because IMO he was just not clear, and I said so, and got immediately blocked)
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 9 February 2024 14:18 (three months ago) link
If ilx had a block feature and we used it the way these itchy block-fingered high profile guys do on x/blueski we'd quickly have no one reading our posts.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 9 February 2024 14:52 (three months ago) link
So is Bluesky just another place on the internet to argue about politics?
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 9 February 2024 16:00 (three months ago) link
its a place for cool bot https://bsky.app/profile/random-people-bot.bsky.social
― lag∞n, Friday, 9 February 2024 16:02 (three months ago) link
there’s a music critic whom i like, and whose newsletter i subscribe to, but after each new post they spend several days re-blueskying it every three hours and this annoys me far more than it should and i wish i could turn those retweets off
― mookieproof, Monday, 11 March 2024 19:07 (two months ago) link
that's lame
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 19:08 (two months ago) link
Not that you be should have to, but if the newsletter has a distinctive name or there's some other word they always use in the promo posts, you could try muting it. Not sure if Bluesky mute supports multiword phrases or not.
― Alba, Saturday, 16 March 2024 08:32 (two months ago) link
Long interview w/BS’s CEO. I only skimmed it, but found the comments interesting and on-point.
― let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 03:49 (two months ago) link
Brazil Bluesky has suddenly exploded, apparently due to a court order blocking Twitter in Brazil(?)I keep a “stan account” (sort of as a joke or diversion) that had absolutely zero going on, but was following a few dormant Brazilian fan accounts; and suddenly they sprung to life, along with a bunch of new ones, in a wave of follows and reposts. Pretty cool…
― rendered nugatory (morrisp), Sunday, 7 April 2024 23:51 (one month ago) link
I’ve noticed I’ve blocked more people on Bluesky than I’ve blocked in the same time on other social media apps. Every week there’s some new fandom drama that brings the most unhinged takes to my timeline.
Last week was people responding to Ed Piskor’s suicide with posts like “all predators should delete themselves?” “Predators?” “Delete themselves?”
The last few weeks has made me reconsider the value of Google’s identity verification requirements for Google+. However, it’s certainly possible social media is, at the end of the day, bad.
― Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 13 April 2024 16:35 (one month ago) link
In the final year or so that I was on Twitter, I took to using my actual photo as a pfp, and a close version of my real name – as a self-policing measure, to restrict the impulse to be unnecessarily rude, snarky, whatever. (I know that many ppl choose to be non-anonymous anyway, and many others can’t/won’t do it for safety reasons; but it “worked for me” in that respect.)
― rendered nugatory (morrisp), Saturday, 13 April 2024 16:50 (one month ago) link
maybe the only reason civilization happened is that at some point physically you could “not be there” or could usually “walk away”? when the algorithm is feeding you terrible shit it’s hard to get away. also harder online: re-enacting that story of the Kung bushmen who surrounded a tribe member who was a relentless bad-actor and then filled him with arrows. and then had absolutely the entire community stab him for community participation. i read it an a relatively serious book didn’t check on its truth.and not that i could recommend it, mind, i def would not do.
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Sunday, 14 April 2024 04:21 (one month ago) link
Every week there’s some new fandom drama that brings the most unhinged takes to my timeline.
― Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, April 13, 2024 12:35 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
the militarizations of fandoms via social media is wild were not quite at the level of the blue and greens in byzantium but politicians arent above appealing to taylor swift fans or whatnot
― lag∞n, Sunday, 21 April 2024 17:04 (one month ago) link
fuck the blues, they were dumb and horrible, GREENS ROCK
― mark s, Sunday, 21 April 2024 17:10 (one month ago) link
otm
― lag∞n, Sunday, 21 April 2024 17:10 (one month ago) link
when are they going to hijack the back button so when I press it after opening an image it closes the image instead of leaving the site.don't tell me to use the app.also q) how do I know I've switched to the 'discover' tab? a) furry cartoons all over my feed.
― ledge, Sunday, 21 April 2024 19:58 (one month ago) link
i was just working on that functionality for a site
― lag∞n, Sunday, 21 April 2024 20:21 (one month ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Wt3UCsr.png
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 May 2024 15:03 (four weeks ago) link
I guess the “bridge” thing with Mastodon worked… I’m seeing these “test” posts from accounts with these complex “.br.id.g” (or whatever) addendums.
― rendered nugatory (morrisp), Saturday, 4 May 2024 15:57 (four weeks ago) link
This seems to be how it works: https://fed.brid.gy/
― OG Rizzler (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 May 2024 21:07 (three weeks ago) link
amazing web site
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 21:08 (three weeks ago) link
Wow, you can "bridge" yr BS account to the Fediverse just by following a certain account? That's wild
― OG Rizzler (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 May 2024 21:29 (three weeks ago) link
I guess one caution seems to be that if you delete a BS post, it won't (yet) be deleted on the bridged ActivityPub account.
― OG Rizzler (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 May 2024 21:32 (three weeks ago) link
Jack Dorsey claims Bluesky is 'repeating all the mistakes' he made at Twitter
He prefers Nostr even though it’s “weird and hard to use.”
https://www.engadget.com/jack-dorsey-claims-bluesky-is-repeating-all-the-mistakes-he-made-at-twitter-234326121.html
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 May 2024 18:18 (three weeks ago) link
Dorsey also confirmed that he is financially backing Nostr, another decentralized Twitter-like service popular among some crypto enthusiasts and run by an anonymous founder.
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 May 2024 18:20 (three weeks ago) link
"Why does this censorship follow me wherever I go?"
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Friday, 10 May 2024 18:21 (three weeks ago) link
“The name is an acronym for Notes and Other Stuff Transmitted by Relays"
― mark s, Friday, 10 May 2024 18:23 (three weeks ago) link