The Breakfast Club: classic or dud?

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i used to watch it several times in a row, some days

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the breakfast club

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Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:53:27 -0500

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THE BREAKFAST CLUB ROCKS!! I GOT A TATTO CUZ I LOVE IT!!

-- masonic boom (ktstclaire@hotmail.com), July 2nd, 2001.

kate pretends not to be into judd nelson!!! ;-)

Bender: How come Andrew gets to get up? If he gets up, we'll all get up, IT'LL BE ANARCHY!

Bender: How does one become a janitor?
Carl: You want to be a janitor?
Bender: No, I just want to know how one becomes a janitor because Andrew here is very interested in persuing a career in the custodial arts.

Bender: A naked blonde walks into a bar with a poodle under one arm and a two foot salami under the other. She lays the poodle on the table. Bartender says, 'I suppose you won't be needing a drink.' Naked lady says-- "OOHHHH Shiit!!"
((Ruckus))
Vernon: Jesus Christ Almighty!
Bender: Forgot my pencil.

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Alison: I'll do anything sexual and I don't need a million dollars to do it either.
Claire: You're lying.
Alison: I already have. I've done just about everything there is except a few things that are illegal. I'm a nymphomaniac.
Claire: Lie.
Brian: Are your parents aware of this?
Alison: The only person I told was my shrink.
Andrew: And what did he do when you told him?
Alison: He nailed me.
Claire: Very nice.
Alison: I don't think that from a legal standpoint what he did could be construde as rape since I paid him.
Claire: He's an adult!
Alison: Yeah, and he's married.
Claire: Ugh! Do you have any idea how completely gross that is?
Alison: Well the forst few times-
Claire: First few times? You mean you did it more than once?
Alison: Sure.
Claire: Are you crazy?
Brian: Obviously she's crazy if she's screwing a shrink.
Alison: Have you ever done it?
Claire: I don't even have a psychiatrist.
Alison: Have you ever done it with a normal person?
Claire: Didn't we already cover this?
Bender: You didn't answer the question.
lison: Its kind of a double-edged sword, isn't it?
Claire: A what?
Alison: Well, if you say you haven't you're a prude. If you say y ou have, you're a slut. Its a trap. You want to but you can't and when you do you wish you didn't, right?
Claire: Wrong.
Alison: Or are you a tease?
Andrew: She's a tease.
Claire: Why don't you just forget it.
Andrew: You're a tease and you know it. All girls are teases.
Bender: She's only a tease if what she does gets you hot.
Claire: I don't do anything.
Alison: Thats why you're a tease.

Alison: When you grow up, your heart dies.
Bender: Who cares.
Alison: I care.

Best film ever...

No! It and Grease are the greatest films ever made*! We even wrote a song called Bender after John Bender. We're too scared that we'll be sued if we try to use samples, though. I even had John Bender wallpaper before it was replaced by the glory that is Julian Casablancas' ass.

*That are not Performance, Barbarella, Blow Up, or Ken Russell's Gothic

(You couldn't expect me not to comment on that, could you?)

The bit where Brian and Bender are sitting directly opposite each other (at the start), and both of them simultaneously start to take off their jackets. The look at each other, and Brian feels pressured into leaving his jacket half-off while Bender removes his completely.

First off, I think the movie is very funny. But the ENDING. GOD. Two points:
1) They're all supposed to be friends and stuff toward the end, but then they stick the job of writing their essays on the GEEK. What's that all about? (And, the poor geek doesn't get to hook up with anyone. No justice.)
2) Ally Sheedy, who looked perfectly cute as the psycho girl, has to be "prettied up" with makeup and stuff by Molly to get the others to notice her. BLEH.

And a lesser point, who thinks that the relationship between Molly and Judd will last, oh, a week or less? *raises hand* It reminds me of As Good As It Gets, another flawed movie; it ends with a happy ending, but really, c'mon, Jack 'n' Helen aren't going to stay together.

Anyway, TBC: fun movie. They screwed up the end, though.

Rick Moody wrote a whole article perving on Ally Sheedy's character in the Breakfast Club and ranting about how her makeover destroyed the film.

I'm really kind of indifferent to this movie, which is odd because most people I know either love it or loathe it.

Of COURSE Bender left the princess in the movie. The transience of teenage love was part of the point. I bet he pawned the diamond for drugs, as well. Only part of his appeal...

And it has the stupidest excuse for a dance sequence evah!

they were dancing because of the pot AND THE RAWK

The makeover section was funny precisely because of THE HEADBAND FROM HELL. Man, I loved that.

ARGH. No I don't, I hate this stupid phrase! Worst ILX meme of 2002.

Hmmm. I can see how one might view it as a parody (due to the previously mentioned points), but it would be a big stretch to think that that was John Hughes's intention. That's what bothers me, and therefore I can't view it truly as a parody. The last shot is of Judd throwing his fist into the air, as if to declare victory...hooray, we broke down the barriers, I hooked up with a princess, blah blah. But really, they've accomplished little and learned little. I think the filmmakers really want the viewers to believe that it ends in triumph. If it was intended as a parody, then yes, that changes things. (I don't think John Hughes is that clever, though)

jesus i loved it at 18.
esp. the one long take in the scene where
they sit on the flaw and andrew talks about
taping larry lester (?)'s buns together.

quite why smoking pot makes windows shatter and people
smoking it scream tho i dont know.

all round classic-o.

it was cut to ribbons the first few times on uk tv,
even on moviedrome on bbc2.

love the fact also that in 84 a
rebellious n freaky girl
should be reading from the
1999 album cover to demonstrate
rebel freakiness.

PROVEN BY SCIENCE!

hehe...that must've been a grate movie rev. was it sinker in disguise?

The geek is really excited about writing a great essay.

"who thinks that the relationship between Molly and Judd will last, oh, a week or less?"

Yeah, maybe, but the movie tagline is:
They only met once, but it changed their lives forever.

(the Bowie quote at the beginning is cool too)

Ned hates fun = fremma neppa venette

by science, of course.

Larry is not depicted in the film, but he is the reason that Andrew is spending time in detention. Larry had his butt cheeks taped together by Andrew as part of an attempt to emulate some of the wild stuff his father said he always did in school. Andrew feels sorry that Larry will have to experience extreme shame when he tells his father what happened to him."

from movieprop.com

The Return of Club Freaky Trigger, Wednesday 24th March

can i just point out that 4 weeks today (24 march 2004) is TWENTY YEARS since the day spent in detention.

we're having a party, what are YOU doing?

(i may even dress as bender, although probably not)

I want a makeover. I'm coming as Ally Sheedy.

If the question is 'which character in Thunderbirds is the ever-living one'? then using 'Cheetara' would be very wrong indeed.

http://www.sixsixfive.com/cheetara.jpg

xpost, not you Dave. You stay here.

t/s: thunderbirds vs thundercats?

http://www.optical-intrusion.50megs.com/photoshop/photomanips/cheetara.jpg

Not really worksafe, if your boss hates slightly porno versions of 1980s cartoon characters

http://www.visionaryentertainment.com/dc08302003/thundercats1.jpg

And then they lez up

There are some very weird people in the interwebland

Ally, I kiss you.

Lion-O looks a lot like Stevem (pic of SHAME).

http://kuci.org/~nraggett/WeddingFAP/CrazyStevem.jpg

http://www.x-entertainment.com/extra/lion-o/lion-o1.jpg

Pinerine? Wolverfox?

And I liked it a lot.

The Breakfast Club is classic, I have to mention.

For some reason I'd never seen this film before now, and I quite liked it, but what the fuck is up with the ending? For most of the film it tries to build a sort of a realistic picture of teenagers' problems, but in the end... love just solves everything? What about the rebel guy's dysfunctional home life? And the goth girl becomes happy just by putting on "normal" make up and kissing the jock guy, all of which happens almost totally out of blue? So everyone ends up happy, except maybe the geek guy, because in the end he still doesn't have anyone. Seriously, this felt like one of the most tacked-on happy endings ever. Pretty in Pink was kinda similar, a down-to-earth teen film with a forced happy ending for everyone. Is this a John Hughes trademark or something?

First of, this is a movie, we're not looking for realism. Secondly I didn't think the ending was that farfetched. True it seemed a happy ending, and it was, but you/they all know that the next day they will all go back to what it was before (ignoring eachother and shit). It's like a great party but you know that the next day you'll sober and return to what it was. You never experienced that when you were a teenager? It's like a bubble and the next day it evaporates.

First of, this is a movie, we're not looking for realism.

You realize filmmakers can choose between different aesthetics? In this case they chose to make most of the film in down-key and non-romanticized way, which is why the upbeat, romantic ending feels out place. As for the next day, I'm not so sure about it. Of course the fact that the ending is relatively open lets the viewer decide what happens next day, but the way the last scenes are framed doesn't imply that everything will be the same, rather than that things will actually change. Also, regardless of what happens after ending, the sudden relationship between the goth girl and the jock felt tacked-on, and it was kinda sad that the film seemed to say the only way she can become happy is through conformity.

nathalie OTM, i think. i see it not so much as "but in the end... love just solves everything" as "for a night, some teenage approximation of love can make it all so much better". you know it won't last; nothing ever can, not forever. but something has changed, in all of them, and that's what matters.

</cheese>

put it this way: i vastly prefer this happy ending to "it's a wonderful life", which enraged me enormously ... but i stand alone on that one, i think ;)

(and yes, i know the happy ending is the whole POINT of IAWL, but i still think it sucks trite dick.)

grimly, if IAWL didn't end like it does, anyone who'd sat thru the preceding 2 hours of "hi george bailey, for you life will be an endless accumulation of disappointments and shit" would surely elect to kill themselves!

i dunno. i kinda thought HEY THIS FILM IS TELLING IT LIKE IT IS! and was then bitterly disappointed by all the happiness.

that said: this was many years ago, and i'm less of a miserable fuck these days. still ...

LESS BREAKFAST CLUB, MORE CHEETARA HORRORSHOW

I love this movie but also agree that the ending is ridiculous, or at least the Ally Sheedy - Emilio Estevez part is ridiculous.

look all john hughes is saying is that the poor rebel really wants to be wanted by the rich princess and the freaky girl really wants to be wanted by the jock. everyone in high school wants to be rich and popular and pretty. the end.

The sad thing is that it's almost true; everyone in high school wants to be rich and popular and pretty on their own terms.

http://www.gtsav.gatech.edu/students/studentcenter/archive/news/tcats2.jpg

http://www.fortheretarded.com/images/dc2003/DSC00571.JPG

That is also true.

all of which happens almost totally out of blue

According to imdb's front page today:

Universal trimmed nearly an hour off of this classic '80s teen movie, and its writer-director possesses the only complete, uncut version of the film.

So maybe a director's cut will explain what really happened.

ie, poppage

fuck no, i want another solid hour of fascist-teacher lollage

I'd love to see a director's cut! I think for most part the interaction between the protagonists was quite interesting for a teen film, it was only the ending that I found kinda silly.

I loved the monologues but they would have been better if they had all been delivered while the characters were dressed as Thundercats.

What Molly Ringwald does to Ally Sheedy at the end is unforgivable. I wish Ally had stuck a piece of big fucking piece of dandruff in Molly's eye.

it would be awesome in this movie after they smoke pot Emilio Estivez wrestled with all of the Thundercats

Paul Gleason:

http://www.sptimesphotos.com/blogs/80s/uploaded_images/breakfastclub7-799312.jpg

vs Mumm-Ra

http://www.r4nt.com/v5/db/issues/v511/mummra_s.jpg

oMIGOD THEY'RE THE SAME PERSON!

I never knew he died! He was brilliant in Trading Places. That "fuck off" while he's on the phone is one of my favourite film moments ever.

"why are you being so nice to me?"
"cause you're letting me"

cutest exchange ever

Iiiiii don't need more of it

http://thefilmexperience.net/blog/2017/12/29/bathroom-break-with-the-breakfast-club.html

So Claire just has raw fish sitting around at room temperature for 4 hours in a bag and then eats it??

ah, the 80s

c'mon one zap in the microwave and it's hot and fresh and ready to go