FURIOSA

Look let's just have a new thread. Because there's a new trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVswuip0-co

Rarely is "more of the same" a good thing, but this may end up the exception.

shut up and take my money

xp I'm def down for more of the same here.

is there some 'man who sold the world' going on in that soundtrack?

For sure.

so excited

Will Max even make an appearance?

if they're going to do the Kenobi "oh hey I really did meet you years ago and forgot" angle

can’t wait for this

hoping Hemsworth doesn’t prove to be a distraction

looks like more cgi than the last one :-/

Bring it

i can't believe how soon this is!!!

??? Fury Road is almost a decade old

as in it’s coming up soon, i think is whar tracer means

Is this in 3D? I saw Fury Road in 2D and some of the 3D stuff looked kinda goofy

for Fury Road they tried to make their own 3D cameras and it basically didn't work so at the last second they were like pfffft, let's just do it in post. I saw it in 3D when it came out and tbh I thought it was amazing that way

let us pray

Definitely is the "Man Who Sold The World" riff.

Wanting to watch this now, but if it's like the first trailer I'll see it a half-dozen times in theaters in the next six weeks...

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/furiosa-first-reactions-mad-max-fury-road-action-classic-1235993908/

all systems nominal

i want to believe

Speaking to Total Film magazine last month, Miller’s longtime producing partner Doug Mitchell let it slip that “Furiosa” contains “one 15-minute sequence which took us 78 days to shoot” and required 200 stunt people on set daily.

“George and I would have these big conversations about why this particular set-piece was so long,” Taylor-Joy told the publication. “It’s because you see an accumulation of skills over the course of a battle, and that’s very important for understanding how resourceful Furiosa is, but also her grit. It’s the longest sequence any of us have ever shot.”

hnnnnnggggghhhhhhhhh

Oh, I’m 100% going to see this

booked imax for opening night; basically the only film series i will do that for. hyped!

holy shit it's almost here.

omg omg omg

I'm kind of astonished that nobody in London seems to be screening Fury Road (or all of them) in advance, not even the Prince Charles.

IMAX presale live now fwiw

(in the US)

Anya Taylor-Joy only has ~30 lines of dialogue in #Furiosa

Tom Hardy also only had 63 lines of dialogue in #FuryRoad

George Miller says “The problem with dialogue is that it tends to slow things down. Film is a medium often best enjoyed at high speed"

(via @Telegraph) pic.twitter.com/rnsPtOM6u6

— Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave) May 11, 2024

“The problem with dialogue is that it tends to slow things down. Film is a medium often best enjoyed at high speed"

If George Miller tried this approach with a romantic comedy he'd make it about 15 minutes long.

Please. It would be all vigorous fucking for 1:45.

pretty sure he's talking about this specific genre here

Yeah. Plus I don't think any of us Max-heads are looking for Eugene O'Neill in a V8 engine after all these years.

saw the newest trailer at the theater yesterday and it went hard in a way watching it on my tv or phone could not approximate

cinema's back!

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-interview/what-george-miller-has-learned-in-forty-five-years-of-making-mad-max-movies

Great interview, got me hot to see the movie more than any trailer ever could.

Didn't make me want to watch Furiosa but did make me want to watch The Road Warrior on mute (he mentions editing it like a silent movie).

Yeah that was a fantastic read! Miller is very thoughtful and self aware not only cinema, but its craft, and is thoroughly honest and humble in how both have changed over the years, with the ultimate goal of audience pleasure in mind. Brilliant.

Few movies I've ever seen exhibit that breathless and intense first rush coupled with the depth that offers satisfaction through repeated viewings than Fury Road. It's like The Downward Spiral that way for me, and I love how he talks about how intentional it all was both in the backstory and lore, but also in the technical challenges of editing and presentation. The baby with the bathwater part when discussing the issues the guitarist character had with the initial screening was a perfect example. Simply adjusting some of the sound editing fixed the issue, whereas other directors less confident in their craft and movie making instincts might have cut the character entirely.

Tickets acquired for tomorrow afternoon. Kids' last day of school was today, so this'll be a grand way to kick off summer.

Urgent and necessary Fury Road rewatch complete. Bring the fuck on for tomorrow.

Also watching it tomorrow night, late showing too!

i have to see my brother's one act play tonight, and feel like I'm going to beeline to the movies right after....

The reviews are almost all really glowing, and the ones I've read that are a bit more middling or apprehensive still make it sound really good, and don't seem to be judging it as its own film but judging it based upon the Fury Road model of pacing and action.

i'm going in coooooooooold.

10:30 baby

And coming out hot

i kept wanting to rewatch all of the Maxes going in like I did with Fury Road but my brain kept saying "nah man, it'll be more exciting to just go in fresh ,then rewatch everything after'. hope I'm right.

i predict I will see this 5+ times in the theatre

my friends couldn't get it together to make plans around seeing this so i just bought myself a ticket for a 9am imax showing on monday... hope i make it lol

9am? I'm surprised that's even an option. Certainly gonna wake you up!

lmao I did that with Fury Road. booked myself like a 10 or 11 am film and it totally made the rest of my day

First show tomorrow near me is 9:30 AM.

almost tempted to hate it so I can yell MEDIOCRE! at the end

lmao

i am seeing it sunday with my boys. broken foot so no trek into town to the imax for me but happy to support the sad old local picturehouse

No spoilers but I thought this was entirely satisfying and by the end it really lands with an impact. Bit slow and expository in the early going, at least by Mad Max standard, but it keeps inexorably shifting gears and builds quite grippingly. Hemsworth and Taylor-Joy both terrific.

Yup, just got out, awesome and a half, see it immediately etc

I am IN THE THEATRE

I enjoyed it a lot, but it suffers from the comparison to Fury Road. It goes bigger in several ways, but everything that's bigger about it makes it lesser. In particular, the action sequences are even more insane in concept, but that requires much more conspicuous CGI in execution, which blunts the impact. By the end, I was envying the fraction of this movie's audience that'll see it without having seen FR first. Because by normal contemporary action movie standards, it's great.

I really liked Chris Hemsworth's performance too. The character seems to be patterned on Lord Humungus from Road Warrior somewhat--a meathead S&M cult leader, trailed by a meek flunky who acts as sort of a spokesman. But Dementus has a playful, childlike quality that Hemsworth seemed to be having a lot of fun with.

Yeah some amazing lines to deliver, and how he delivers them is part of the fun.

It's funny that they had to ugly him up. He's just too dang handsome otherwise.

They give you a real good look at his fake nose right away. I thought it suited him pretty well, actually

;_;

Loved it.

I feel like there's one visual that will stick with me and I think you all know what it is

Not as focussed as fury road, but beyond that, it was more of the same and that same was pretty bloody fantastic. The long action scene so good it kinda makes you wish the whole movie was just that.

I dunno about that one visual! It was a bit too on the nose for my liking!

Oh and after watching The Fall Guy it was SOOOOOO GOOOOD to hear an ocker aussie accent done right. Kinda made me cringe everytime Ana spoke, taking me straight outa that homely Australian blanket that I had been tucked into by the surrounding dialogue

Second viewing in one hour

Thank God for AMC A-List lol

I really really loved this, it really surprised me because I think I like it even better than Fury Road, love the increased set of characters, love how grotesque and nasty it got (I'm gaining confidence that mainstream culture isn't going to soften too much). Praying Miller can make more of these, really astonishing that he's kicking it so hard

The 150-min length made me pause.

Fortunately it’s backloaded with action, the only time I felt any drag was in the first hour. By the end I wanted more.

the first half hour is one of my favorite sequences in the entire franchise.

after two viewings, I'd rank Furiosa as follows:

Fury Road > 2 > Furiosa > 1 > 3

the only real drawback in this movie is that part of the reason so many of the sequences in Fury Road were so exciting, besides the fantastic staging/practical effects, was that you were palpably rooting for Furiosa's escape and the vanquishing of Immortan Joe, so like, the moments that are purely Immortan Joe-Dementus warring don't have the same impact as the battle scenes where you're seeing the formation of Imperator Furiosa as a byproduct of these battles, such as the sequence where the second in command gets offed and she basically takes over due to sheer survival instinct, then tries to hijack the war machine.

likewise, the typical drawback of any prequel, when you know who bites it and who doesn't sheerly based on who was and wasn't in Fury Road, it blunts impact of battle sequences a little bit. that and you're kind of locked in, design wise, so it's probably the first Mad Max film that didn't really have any significant advancement in the costuming design, vehicular design, tribe makeups, etc.

however....I still enjoyed it a ton, esp on second viewing. particularly, as stated upthread, Dementus's dialogue. he's a remarkably brutal warlord, colossally terrible leader - the only difference between him and Immortan Joe is that Joe knows how to weaponize his brutality to gain subservience whereas Dementus can't conceal the loathing he has for his own soldiers, including killing them intentionally in battle to gain a tactical advantage, which causes him to lose his second-in-command. it does kinda seem funny to me that the first War Machine seems significantly more advanced than the one in Fury Road, with the bobbyknocker and the arms that can lift vehicles off of the ground. maybe they didn't have the leftover parts for that.

1 being 4th seems criminally wrong considering how much I love the original Mad Max but that's more a compliment than anything

Kinda made me cringe everytime Ana spoke, taking me straight outa that homely Australian blanket that I had been tucked into by the surrounding dialogue

tbf she had to kinda match the way Charlize spoke

No I totally get it. Good write up too

Keep wondering if nipples guy is going to become a meme

this was great obviously. didn’t have quite the same relentless pace as fury road but i felt more invested in furiosa’s story more than any of the previous maxes, despite knowing what was going to happen. hemsworth was fun as a madman, was great to see our old friends immortan joe and rictus erectus again (was rictus’s brother scrotus in the first as well? been a while since i watched), and the doof warrior, all too briefly

The organic mechanic too!

and the guy who becomes the head of gastown following the downfall in this movie!

I appreciated Dementus’s attempts to quirk up his brand. I’m the Red Dementus, that’s why my beard has this red dye in it.
You don’t want to see the Dark Dementus!

one day you too can become a history man

Haha i loved that moment. And shes just like nah history man i’m good thanks

The feral bugged out eyes Furiosa gets when she pushes her vehicle to a ridiculous speed at the end is great

Thought it was fabulous, unsurprisingly, given Fury Road is in my top few favourite films easily. Less frenetically iconic than Fury Road (fewer hyperspeed moments, colours less saturated and unnatural), more space for the characters to breathe. But still so many gasping wtf moments of just outrageous visual genius. Plotwise it was as ‘thin’ as Fury Road, but it was emotionally very different, maybe richer. Furiosa is the most well-drawn character in any of the films apart from maybe the first, but she’s also the only one since the first to now have any kind of backstory. Both very similar and very different to Fury Road. Would like to see on the big screen again.

Lady and gentlemans

Seeing this in a little while, 10:15 showing. Leaving off my 2nd cup of coffee so my bladder doesn't dictate terms during the movie.

Scrotus. Rictus.

why be a history man when you can make history, man

Let's just do it and be history, man

Just rewatched the original film from 79. So many of the ingredients are there from the off: there’s even a scene where they pole-vault onto an oil truck to steal petrol, which is completely forgotten about. He’s just remade the same film five times, adding new stuff as he goes. Amazing.

Yeah I watched it last night and caught the pole swing too, which I hadn't previously remembered.

Also the scene in the woods to Max's wife and kid on the road is practically a horror film.

Cool, weird, brutal movie. I wouldn't say I came out of it as totally dazzled and elated as after Fury Road. This one had a lot going on, but also didn't have quite the same gripping momentum for me. My favourite stuff was probably in the first two chapters, actually, before we get to the Citadel and it merges more fully into the world of Fury Road. Furiosa's mom needs a movie now.

In terms of violence and brutality, is this on par with fury road or is it beyond it?

On par? One scene definitely makes is beyond on the grossness scale. The better half was hiding her eyes (and I was tempted myself...... those particular things make me gag).

beyond xp

The drawing and quartering by motorbike kinda already puts it over the line, but there also weren't really any elements of torture in Fury Road, whereas Dementus tortures Furiosa's mother the unnamed gang leader, Furiosa herself, and Praetorian Jack, and Furiosa tortures Dementus.

Not to mention the 40-day war carnage scene was a little out of character for the series as almost every film has a decent death toll, but none of the skirmishes ever seem to go beyond a one day scuffle that leaves individual bodies on the road, whereas this war literally results in piles of bodies/mass graves and actual images of decomping bodies.

Body count probably a huge record for the series, and also the bobbyknocker

I feel like OG Mad Max is second most brutal.

You have Nightrider getting cooked, Goose's mangled, burnt hand, civilians murdered or tortured for funsies, the Johnny Boy kill, not to mention wife and kid roadkilled

The finalists for the part of Max were Hardy, Armie Hammer, and Jeremy Renner, with Michael Fassbender, Joel Kinnaman, Heath Ledger, Eric Bana, and even Eminem (who did not wish to leave the United States) all having been considered at various stages of the film's extended development.

I’m a little surprised this is more-or-less bombing at the box office, but I guess I shouldn’t be. Fury Road was a hit but not a giant one by contemporary standards, and not having the words “Mad Max” in the title probably hurts some. Plus also Anya Taylor-Joy isn’t by herself a big draw. I hope that doesn’t do in Miller’s chances to make another one.

the discourse around this aspect is very very annoying tbh

It’s part of the broader movies-are-dying discourse. Maybe they are!

R rating, prequel, one which more or less assumes that you've seen and enjoyed a movie from 9 years ago which wasn't itself a smash hit. It's kind of amazing that it even got made at this budget.

I’m pissed that WB didn’t strike 70mm prints of this

that was fine, in many respects it was very good – the politics and rhetorical flourishes of warlord culture are great, the imminent social danger in Gas Town, the scenes at the Bullet Farm - all comprise a really cogent and vivid science fiction vision. but compared to Fury Road, which is pretty much a single action bungee cord of a movie, the action here feels more like (great) set pieces, and the pace never really clicked into gear for me. co-ordination of action, stage management, editing all still fantastic. Really hope he gets to do a third.

I'm about to watch the morning showing. Stay tuned!

Was talking about box office with an former ilxor and we both arrived at the conclusion that shit just isnt kept in theaters long enough to make box office. Fury Road ONLY made 400 mil and that’s because it was in theaters for like 18 months. If they pull Furiosa after this week and put it on streamers they’ve shot their own dicks off

Yep. Word of mouth doesn’t exist any more.

yeah, this conversation about "underperforming" movies like this, Challengers and The Fall Guy reads like an industry circle jerk.

Yep. Word of mouth doesn’t exist any more.

― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand),

oh I don't know. I suspect Civil War and Challeners have hung on -- the AMC multiplex where I'm watching Furiosa has all-day screenings for Challengers -- because of word of mouth.

The action direction is good, but I tended to like the simpler action sequences the most (the opening chase is so great). The most intriguing moments for me are the ones where we escape the vast open of the wasteland and see the creative and freaky stuff happening in the gaps. Guy reproducing Hylas and the Nymphs. Old lady promising peace in the depths under the Citadel. I love that kind of detail.

For me the real treat was watching young/grown Furiosa process the world around her with only her eyes and sussing out what she's feeling.

There's one great, subtle moment when the rig is attacked and Furiosa's just done the bobbyknocker and she curls her lip a bit, having enjoyed the adrenaline rush, only to be brought back to Earth by seeing the dead War Pup.

in the Green Place she probably received ample survivalist training from the other Vulvalini, but since nobody really ever stumbled upon their encampment, never was exposed to the nihilistic butchery that was present elsewhere in the world and is slowly traumatized over and over again

that was fine, in many respects it was very good – the politics and rhetorical flourishes of warlord culture are great, the imminent social danger in Gas Town, the scenes at the Bullet Farm - all comprise a really cogent and vivid science fiction vision. but compared to Fury Road, which is pretty much a single action bungee cord of a movie, the action here feels more like (great) set pieces, and the pace never really clicked into gear for me. co-ordination of action, stage management, editing all still fantastic. Really hope he gets to do a third.

― Fizzles, Monday, May 27, 2024 8:48 AM (one hour ago)

^^ pretty much sums it up for me

i love a movie that’s slow and deliberate and operating on a tremendous scale and i honestly had to pee the whole time but i felt like i couldn’t miss any of the images the movie was offering up. george miller’s phantom menace (you know i mean this as a compliment). really felt this one in my heart instead of my nerves

also there were very young children at my screening and they all fucking loved it

we love every furious we see

Lol my mother said "there's another F&F movie already?" When I told her I was seeing Furiosa.

She thought I said Furiouser

Lol

2Furious2Osa

I want Bad Boys 5 but it's Scrotus and Rictus Erectus

Omigod Tom Burke!

Loved him

No idea the Tory from The Souvenir was capable of this.

Crazy detail: this dude in Dementus's horde is named Rizzdale Pell, which is apparently a reference to two infamous Australian Catholic priests (Ridsdale and Pell).

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/roadwarrior/images/5/5c/Rizzdale_Pell.jpg

This was terrific, for me a more fulfilling experience than the last one. Miller's one of the great directors of crowds. And what an eye for perverse images.

Xpost Same actor also played Immortan Joe in the film due to Hugh Keayes-Byrne's passing in 2020

Hell of a gig.

Also played Orson Welles in MANK.
He still looks like Welles.

enjoyed, tho the length is uh lengthy. with both this and dune 2, i feel like directors need to understand pacing and duration better or be more forgiving to the viewer.

at one point the bikes and rods were spiraling endlessly around and i was like ok this is some modern day esther williams shit

Ha. I wrote "Busby Berkeley" in my notes

lol

Film never really felt long to me though?

Weirdly Fury Road felt longer to me due to its heft but it's a half hour shorter.

FR is the better film in my eyes but I think a large part of that is the novel nature of it. We didn't have MM for 30 years, had no idea where Max would be airdropped or who the baddies would be, whereas here we're restricted to the same baddies from last film but younger and "new" baddie from the 2015 video game.

I do think the emotional heft and payoff were more effective in Fury Road but I was pleased with Miller continuing to let Furiosa do it with her eyes and body language rather than dialogue

Do kinda like finding out that the mountainbike gang from FR was basically a splinter group that came from disgruntled members of Dementus's crew.

this could’ve been longer and i wouldn’t have minded at all

Not proud to say I've already seen thrice

I complained about the length before I saw it. Except for one of those throne room scenes it didn't drag a bit.

idk I don't go to these things for emotional heft: I go for dogs carrying human feet in their mouths.

I'm all about the motorcycles in this one

Furiosa's mom shifting the gas can and wheel from her previous bike so she can pursue in much faster powerful bike is my fav

Also, was Hemsworth channeling...Heath Ledger?

I'm the DAHK DEMENTUS

I want somebody to book back-to-back big-screen showings of Furiosa and Fury Road.

I want somebody to book back-to-back big-screen showings of Furiosa and The Souvenir Pt. II.

or a fury road/souvenir pt 1 “we need tom burke for the next one” double-header

Burke's in The Souvenir, he's dead in Souvenir II (as he is in Fury Road, we know now).

Praetorian Jack driving that rig into Tilda Swinton's parents' house.

Burke's in The Souvenir, he's dead in Souvenir II (as he is in Fury Road, we know now).

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra

lol tipsy I was joking

Oh i know, was just responding to voodoo chili

I like the idea of playing the four of them as a quartet.

Bloody weird seeing Bluey in Mad Max 2.

right i forgot which souvenir he was in

https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/tom-burke-as-praetorian-jack-on-a-lonely-road-in-furiosa-a-mad-max-saga.jpg

I'm here for my ... souvenir.

DO THE BOBBYKNOCKER

also there were very young children at my screening and they all fucking loved it

some parents brought an 8-year-old boy, a 7-year-old girl and a 5-year-old girl to the IMAX screening I saw today

which highlighted how MUCH more gore there is in this one than Fury Road

Yeah, I'm no prude but as I was walking out I caught a similar such family and was kinda like "woah, how very progressive!" Lol

Reveal your uncool conservative beliefs itt: 12yo is the age limit I'd put on taking my hypothetical children to this movie, and even then I might second guess the decision

Burke was absolutely fantastic in this

I would not let my very smart, grounded, avid reader 9yo, watch Furiosa, let alone this.

what about Furiosa though?

Also, was Hemsworth channeling...Heath Ledger?

at times Burke looks like Robert Palmer.

Amusing that I mainly know Burke as “the guy from The Souvenir” when that doesn’t even appear in the “Films” summary of his Wikipedia page.

I'm sort of philosophically opposed to this because backstory and "universe building" has basically ruined movies imo

I wouldn't worry about it. It impressed me and I didn't remember shit about Fury Road or the others.

and I have no investment in this series, like, at all.

Cosign; though I can respect not selling out on your reasonable philosophy regardless

the thing is that george miller is a good filmmaker

This didn't play like universe building: it played like another chapter.

The thing also is its a great excuse to eat popcorn and indulge the lizard brain for 148 minutes

There's only one lizard death to snap you out of said lizard trance, and it comes and goes pretty quickly

the "universe building" happens so elegantly here it could make you forget stuff like wonka, a universe elaborated upon as an excuse to make a funko pop

yeah if fury road didnt exist this would still work just as well, it really req

*requires no prior knowledge or, per Alfred, even interest in any other elements of the series.

We took our 12 year-old, thought it was a little more intense at a few points than I thought, at least compared to Fury Road, but he loved it.

I thought it was really good.

yeah the thing about prequels is I generally hate them for the following reasons:

1) usually saturated in nauseating pathos
2) filling in literally every blank previous films left, so you're left with a Wikipedia article and not a movie -- too much exposition

But this movie largely avoided those issues. the pathos is there but mostly only in the last half hour and it's earned by then. and in regards to worldbuilding, that's kind of what most of the Mad Max films post OG generally do anyway, only the characters tend to be ancillary.

Furiosa barely has any dialogue as opposed to the typical prequel where every bit of dialogue is in service to exposition which is nice.

I think the movie is explicitly against universe-building in that it presents itself as a legend. We see a History Man! And toward the end, he almost explicitly says "fuck it, print the legend"

It's not a huge plot hinge to do so, only an acknowledgment that these are little stories passed down through the ages and details may have been changed to make it more epic

ok cool this all sounds good, my reservations being more or less what neando posted

and Tom Burke brings the movie to another level; the movie almost can't bear his intensity of feeling.

the moment Scrotus said "and now...we're going to kill ya" and launched the attack against Dementus's crew, all I could hear in my head was "It's over Anakin, I have the high ground"

sounds like me on a date, down to the nickname

i could be wrong but i feel like the only part of this film that exists outside of the story at hand and is only there to connect it to a previous film called Fury Road is that brief shot of Max on the hilltop. and even then its so quick, and by that point youre just kind of riding with the flow of images that it doesnt seem forced or gratuitous.

my wife didnt really remember Fury Road and insisted on finding youtube explainers to try and refresh herself on the lore & untangle the chronology until she finally gave up in frustration and realized that it was all nonsense, and i was like "yeah dont sweat it, watch these cars go kaboom real big and it will all make sense." I like the fact that even George Miller is on the record as saying "I'm not really clear on how all the movies connect and dont care."

I do find it funny that the amazing last 20 minutes of Mad Max 2 are no longer merely the climax of the films but actually now comprise the majority of the movie.

they're basically road pirate movies, people on huge rigs endlessly having to repel boarders, and it never gets old to me watching these extended road war sequences. not least the choreography of it all

i rather like people being flung about about atop of elastic sticks it’s part if what feels missing irl

otm

why does that clip of the History Man saying "the darkest of angels" that was also in the trailer sound like a sample from a Burial song

kinda sad Octoboss got dispensed so easily, he had a cool getup w/ the horns and all

with all that drapery he seemed like one of the few people who actually figured out a viable way of dealing with the heat of the wasteland and being out in the sun all day, i bet he was comfy under there.

also love his line reading when the one guy says "i only take orders from the Octoboss" and Octoboss winces and goes "do what he says", just dripping with total disrespect, great delivery by that guy

I think my favorite Hemsworth bit is near the end when the fakeout leading up to the big battle is in place and he falls for it and goes something like "I regard him with contempt!" Somehow both matter of fact and just hilarious in how he sounds.

yeah his brutality and brute strength mixed with his abject stupidity despite being eloquent is delightful.

like being so stupid as to torture a dude hours after he's already died and not noticing the person who was meant to witness the torture escaped a while ago, then wrecking his own vehicle in pursuit because he started driving before he unhitched the thing that was hooked around his tire.

Hemsworth pronounces big words as if he just learned them. It works!

I think my favorite genius/dumb moment is when he rolls into Joe's lair with his crew and the Gastown dude in the contraption all rigged up in a 'Don't make me do this!' way which of course has obvious and immediately demonstrable downsides.

he's a very recognizable personality. most of the IRL villains I've encountered have very much been "Dementus types". very early on in Hemsworth's performance I got the charge of "oh I totally know this guy"

i like it because I'm tired of every baddie in action films being criminal masterminds, I mean...this is the wasteland, people seize power through opportunism more than they do ability. and he still manages to achieve a lot through brute force!

so easily

he’s the final boss in the movie’s biggest battle scene! they had to save the bommyknocker for him!

I loved this. The gleeful imagination and visual inventiveness on display throughout was exhilirating. I think I felt 12 years old when those parachutes opened during the central action set piece, and that image of it swirling behind the truck! Great, great movie.

he’s the final boss in the movie’s biggest battle scene! they had to save the bommyknocker for him!

― bae (sic), Friday, May 31, 2024 2:48 PM bookmarkflaglink

yeah but I mean I woulda preferred that he avoided the entire back end of the rig and outright made it into the vehicle, maybe stuck around for another battle or two.

not even really a gripe though, it's my way of saying I liked the dude

xpost Furiosa's entire rapid transformation from mechanic to deadly assassin in that one battle scene is my favorite. it's not unbelievable, it's totally in character because up until that point, she's already adapted every way she's needed to in order to survive - this is only an extension of that.

why do I have the feeling I'm going to see this again this weekend

Wisdom. Seen it twice myself.

Neando's still ahead!

WITNESS HIM (witnessing the movie)

almost tempted to hate it so I can yell MEDIOCRE! at the end

― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Thursday, May 23, 2024 10:48 AM (one week ago)

This actually happened when we saw it opening night! Group who sat to our left said it when the credits rolled and I laughed. Thought of you haha

Hahahaha

then wrecking his own vehicle in pursuit because he started driving before he unhitched the thing that was hooked around his tire.

Oh I didn't get this, I thought Furiosa booby-trapped the car before she slipped away!

Actually she might have

I was reaching to find things to make fun of him for.

Definitely plan on seeing this again in theaters. I remember loving Fury Road, and it's gotten some repeat blu ray views, but this one really hit me. Loved it!

i actually want to see it in proper IMAX, of which we only have one in town, but their screen has multiple, visible tears in it, and the seats are beaten to the point where they look like old Rooms to Go hand me downs. I will say the Dolby Atmos showing near me, I could feel the roaring engines vibrating in my chest, it was mega cool.

4DX might also be fun

i have the next week all locked down around seeing this.

- sunday : watch MM3 (watched MM2 a couple of evenings ago)
- tuesday : pick up mk2 from university
- wednesday : me and mk2 watch 'the fury road' via the dvd i recently bought for this very purpose.
- thursday : me and mk2 go and watch 'furiosa'.

the bullet town showdown was probably my favourite part. the sniping, the gunplay, the angles. when she has to rev her bike to drag him up to safety by that hook, i basically yelped.

praetorian jack is like a mirror image of mad max - kind, thoughtful, balanced, sane. the one male figure in her life she can totally trust

That felt like FURIOSA: The Miniseries

praetorian jack is like a mirror image of mad max - kind, thoughtful, balanced, sane. the one male figure in her life she can totally trust

he's a very recognizable personality. most of the IRL villains I've encountered have very much been "Dementus types". very early on in Hemsworth's performance I got the charge of "oh I totally know this guy"

Ha - well I was thinking the insecurity, a dumb guy trying to convince everyone (& himself) that he’s smart, most of the trouble he causes being the result of being out of his depth and not being able to admit it, etc. He’s like a classic bad boss type. In comparison with inscrutable monster men like Lord Humingus and Immortan Joe, its fun to see a villain in this series who’s a fast talking manipulator just trying to avoid failure.

Max didn't seem that Mad in Fury Road?

he's forgotten how to speak, given up on grooming, and has frequent intrusive hallucinations

Sad Max

the bullet town showdown was probably my favourite part. the sniping, the gunplay, the angles. when she has to rev her bike to drag him up to safety by that hook, i basically yelped.

otm

also, hemsworth - i love the way dementus has the power and charisma to lead a biker horde, and absolute no ability to run gas town as an industrial hub society and is reduced to biking around it on his chariot delivering self-pitying speeches about how it's all the fault of the bullet farm and citadel. a vibe we all instinctively get these days!

the biker chariot thing is perfect for a lout like dementus, just a complete waste of resources that can’t be anything but unpractical. but it looks so cool…

Miller on the chariot, from the New Yorker interview:

That was based on a black-and-white newsreel from the early thirties, when the local police used to put on these big pageants on the Sydney cricket ground. There was some footage in the middle of it of a chariot race based on the silent version of “Ben-Hur.” So, in a way, “Ben-Hur” influenced the police, and the police influenced Dementus.

Lotta good shots of eyes in the bullet farm sequence (there's an "anatomy of a scene" thing on YouTube which is worth watching.) Maybe the most silent movie nu-Max has gotten.

just occurred to me that there’s a lot of geoffrey rush in hemsworth’s performance here

She thought I said Furiouser

*Trish Keenan voice* "the mad max, the mad max, furiouser and furiouser"

saw it a 4th time....no less fun. but lord, the gabby idiots a mere row behind me were driving me nuts. fortunately the whole movie is so loud there were only a handful of times it was distracting

this was dreadful, everything looked like it was happening in a computer. an action movie without anything concrete.

on that note, interesting article about the misleading calculation of how much of Fury Road was actually practical: https://textualvariations.substack.com/p/fury-fx-furiosa

I think Miller's thought process about whether a movie is practical relies on the understanding that blocking, framing, and fights are real interactions between actors. So if a person is jumping at, swinging toward, or punching someone else, that's real. If they're jumping off of... something.. and on to another platform in close-up, that's real. That platform might be a big wooden box and not a car. I don't think that significantly changed between the two films.

I don't want to draw comparisons to a certain major studio that shall not be named, but Miller's m.o. means effects are additive or subtractive, not that scenes are being created whole cloth in post-production or major plot points reconfigured for lengthy reshoots that are largely devoid of practical effects. I think it'd be a lesser but coherent experience to watch the movie with what was filmed before effects artists touched anything.

A thing I didn’t know til listening to the Blank Check episode about this is that a big reason why the look of the film is so different is that it’s a different cinematographer, and that they actually shot everything in Australia instead of Numidia

Namibia, right? Numidia hasn't existed for, uh, a while now

my experience is probably coloured by not watching any of the slop which is filling multiplexes this days, which I'm sure is far more egregious, but I watched some footage of fury road afterwards and there is a concreteness to everything that is completely absent in this. when objects or people moved across the screen in the faster paced sequences it felt like my eyes didn't even register them as substantive things to be followed. and even in the quieter parts: I was looking at the early shot of hemsworth's back where we first see the teddy bear trying to fathom why the way it was moving was so off

idk I didn't really have these problems at all, granted I'm not someone who has a keen eye for 'real' and 'fake', but for a film with a much lower budget than FR, it looked quite good to me. it doesn't live up to Fury Road by any means, but the look of Fury Road was already starting to get more comic book-y compared to the earlier films, so I feel like this played into that element more, largely due to the greater reliance on CG/VFX.

Fury Road felt like the action sequences of road war were most of the appeal of the movie (obviously Max and Furiosa's arc were also great but come on, it's 2 hours of intense road war, who doesn't want that), whereas it was only a piece here, since this is probably the most time spent on an actual character backstory since the OG MM.

cg is just another kind of painting to me, as someone who is usually able to clock when something is constructed from it whole-cloth (the ps2 agent smiths in matrix reloaded… which i still *love*) i thought it was really well integrated into the “reality” of this film. those fan blade guys in the truck action sequence were cg right? who cares that shit ruled

when it comes down to it in this series I just like watching people get run over and their bikes/vehicles get disintegrated underneath a tanker's wheels

also marvel cgi isn't bad because it looks artificial or whatever, it's just also visually unimaginative and lacks dynamism so it turns the entire movie into grey soup. there isn't a frame of this movie that isn't colorful or richly-textured

Saw this last night and thought it was (and looked) great. I'm not really seeing the bad cgi either. The overall look is a bit different from Fury Road, but it didn't feel any less real or impactful to me.

I certainly feel betrayed by the idea that the producer and writer of Babe, Babe: Pig In The City, Happy Feet and Three Thousand Years Of Longing might have used some computer enhancement in a 2024 movie

one little detail I like - how Furiosa is easily able to use the horrific dehumanization of women in the Citadel to her advantage to re-emerge as a woman without being tied to the wive that disappeared. like she disappears to little fanfare because Joe regards his wives as property and barely notices them unless they're pregnant with his child, so he doesn't even notice that she disappears, and Rictus can't speak up about how he caused the girl's disappearance by attempting to assault her - which is bad to Scrotus and Joe not because of any regard for the girl, but because she 'belongs to Joe'. and when she reveals that she is a woman after the failed stowaway attempt, even if anybody did remember the wife that ran away, nobody can connect that she is the same person as she was introduced as Little Dee, and temporarily had red hair from the sky blood the idiot biker stooge shot into the ground, and now is a brunette with the name Furiosa who is frequently covered in grime and grease.

xp issue isn’t with cgi, fury road was full of it. difference was that p much everytrhing in that film felt like it had heft

Great post Neands

idk I feel like the cinematography was different and that changes framing, etc, and could be jarring if you loved that part of Fury Road. I didn’t love it as much but feel like watching it again would gel against my prior expectations

the terrible part about the accursed marvel stuff is that 80% of the background effects and scenes are actually pretty good and it’s just the foreground, where the characters are, and the cinematography being scrapped together through three crews, that grates.

if only we didn’t have to pay attention to characters delivering dialogue and the angles where they’re shot

Kinda get devvvine's point but I still loved the movie. The action scenes and CGI are a bit more fantastical than Fury Road but I also think this is presented as more of a fable and thus works fine. I still felt totally gripped by most of the action. What I will say is that Fury Road felt meticulously crafted, whereas this one felt looser, wilder. I prefer Fury Road but Furiosa is very much its own thing

I was surprised at how dark this was, plenty of humorous moments, but still easily the darkest of all the Max films. I'm probably going to need to watch at least a couple times more to fully wrap my head around it because it throws so much at you throughout. Very inventive and wide ranging, loved seeing all the different environments in their world. I also really appreciated the callbacks to the original films: the way Gastown recalled the fuel refinery in The Road Warrior and the way she goes into full-on psycho revenge mode in the final act just like in the first film. The one thing I didn't love was the greatest hits of Fury Road in the end credits, I thought that was weird, like "hey, remember this great film I made?"

yea it kinda felt like one of those pre-home video features of films, where either the film spent the first 20 minutes reminding you of what happened in the last film, or spends the end credits reminding you what came next if it was a prequel

doctorow's commentary about _furiosa_ speaks for me really. despite being "great," in the wake of _fury road_ it mostly is irresistably attractive yet (possibly inevitably) fundamentally unsatisfying. it's on his podcast or https://pluralistic.net/2024/05/27/cmon-do-it-again/

My ranking right now:

The Road Warrior > Fury Road > Mad Max > Furiosa > Thunderdome

Toecutter is still the scariest villain to me.

All of this is left for us to fill in, and for a decade, my hindbrain has been chewing on all of that, coming up with cool ways it could all fit together. I yearned to know the "real" explanation, but it was always unlikely that this real explanation would be as enjoyable as my own partial, ever-unfinished headcanon.

Furiosa is a great movie, but its worst parts are the canonical lore it settles. Partly, that's because some of that lore is just stupid. Why is the Bullet Farm an open-pit mine? I mean, it's visually amazing, but what does that have to do with making bullets? Sometimes, it's because the lore is banal – the solarpunk Green Place is a million times less cool than I had imagined it. Sometimes, it's because the lore is banal and stupid: the scenes where Furiosa's arm is crushed, then severed, then replaced, are both rushed and quasi-miraculous:

this person is wrong and/or not the same as me, bc 1) i never once thought “oh what does the bullet farm look like” during my many watches of fury road 2) “looking cool” is all ANYTHING in a movie needs to do, “making sense” is stupid 3) the arm severing scene is fucking AMAZING and metal

it is true that not everyone is alike. also that some resolutions or origins do not satisfy the imagined resolutions or imagined origins of others.

but some shit is undeniably pretty metal. for some it’s airbrushed vallejo on a van

rushed and quasi-miraculous

will spend days pondering this mystery

i’m just like. you’re tellin me there’s something quasi-miraculous in a mad max film???? no fuckin way???????

“rushed and quasi-miraculous”

Say more

"I spent weeks pondering how in Road Warrior how Humungus and his goons were so well-nourished and muscular when they seemed to be living off of dead squirrels and rodents for food."

"I really could have designed a better Bullet Farm and I spent 35% of the film writing notes on the back of a napkin at how the bullet drop hose needed to be in a climate-controlled facility"

Toecutter is still the scariest villain to me.

definitely, I mean....dude wasn't a guy driven mad by the collapsing world as much as taking advantage of it, and offing a baby is no thing to him.

“are you not entertained?”

“FUCK YEAH!”

“i saw a failure of satisfyingly creative imagination with violent motorized floor shows that while artful didn’t match my expectations and sometimes was over my stupid imaginary credibility line.”

“LOL”

the solarpunk Green Place is a million times less cool than I had imagined it

Yeah, I disagree with that. For me, the lasting image of the Green Place is of Furiosa plucking the peach. The actual community is barely shown and what we see works unobtrusively. We get what we need from the symbolism of the opening shots.

yeah, it's literally a place that is green! what else could you want?

it's not like it was, err, a brown place

more like green screen place

i hope the next Mad Max is in space

Mad Max: Fury Starship

why did dementus have nipple clamps in the scene where he confronts joe with his ultimatum? (the scene where he’s got the mayor of gastown at the point of a harpoon?) and then they pull out leaving bloody splotches?? i did not understand

even after I've seen it as much as I have, a lot of that scene goes by too quickly for me. i was confused on that as well, unless he was just mocking The People Eater, which...hurtful

yeah that scene is a lot… scrotus screaming, deals being proposed and quashed… the mayor just kind of accidentally dying for no reason.. and dementus ends up with way less than he came for but walks off like he’s just pulled off the deal of the century

why did dementus have nipple clamps in the scene where he confronts joe with his ultimatum? (the scene where he’s got the mayor of gastown at the point of a harpoon?) and then they pull out leaving bloody splotches?? i did not understand

― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand),

It was rushed and quasi-miraculous.

lol

not to mention the star of the movie changing captors, just another chit in the negotiations

i wanted the peach scene to be in smellovision because nothing is more enticing and full of optimistic pleasure than the smell of perfectly luscious ripe peach nectar, but i assume i hoped for too much

Luca Guadagnino takes notes

this thread is hilarious: https://www.reddit.com/r/MadMax/comments/1d813e5/im_still_confused_as_to_why_imortan_joe_was_cool/

have they not heard about the male gaze and the male blindness that happens when you turn into a fury from hell instead of a precocious youth/presumptive bride

Finally saw this: I was felled by COVID during opening week & it took a while to recover

Fucking YES.
Loved it.

my favorite things in no order
- Dementus’s completely stupid & useless show-off chariot
- Hemsworth channelling Geoffrey Rush via Barry Humphries, the posh-ocker was very convincing, kinda forgot it was Hemsworth after a while
- the way Dementus’ white robes turn blood red from the flare and stay that way

- Anya Taylor Joy’s EYES, great casting, she is like a silent movie actress, the way you ~feel~ her even just witnessing literally anything.

- TIM ROGERS CAMEO (lead singer of aussie band you am i) i recognized him right away and loled my head off

- Lachy Hulme did a bangup job doing double duty as Rizzdale Pell & Immortan Joe. I wasn’t sure if they could pull that off but it really worked

- the bloodied arm stump hanging from the chain in the sunset holyyyy shit

- shoutout Broken Hill back in the saddle. Same location as Mad Max 2 <3

Overall just what a great self-contained story AND a great way to fill in the character beats of Furiosa. The pure vengeance of her “My childhood. My mother. I WANT THEM BACK” is so real, so biblical, so deep and harrowing and weirdly beautiful in its purity. And the payoff too, super satisfying in its grotesquerie.

And the way Miller continues to reference the endlessly repeating cycle of the trauma of seeing, of bearing witness to unimaginable torture … i mean i am sorry that George had to see what he saw during his early years as an EMT but also kinda thank you for that because the viscerality is still as real as it was in that first movie 40+ years ago.

TIM ROGERS CAMEO

did you notice who the smeg was

YESS! love an umbilical brother <3

also the backstory behind War Pup is classic George Miller being the kindest man on earth stuff

https://collider.com/furiosa-cast-quaden-bayles-viral-george-miller-mad-max/

I liked Furiosa more than I expected to. I muttered "this rules" to myself many times.

I only watched Fury Road once in its original run, and I'm sort of glad to not have had any real expectations for this one. I thought it would be fun and it was fun.

The end credits rehash was a nice refresher for fake fans like me tbh.

also i mean again, reiterating similar praise from Fury Road - just such a masterclass in editing & camera placement for action and stunts — just so balletic and the way the camera points your eye to where you need to look so that you don’t lose the rhythm of what’s happening

another thing I like about this is the saturday morning cartoon feel of all these colorful villains talking in a cave lair

this was way too long tbh, for all that i liked everything they did

they just needed to do a lot less of it, like an hour less

also

the action felt and sounded distant compared to fury road.

im not even sure seeing it on the big screen made that much of a difference

Uh

https://www.cbr.com/furiosa-nathan-jones-fictional/

That's really sad. I imagine those trolls mostly didn't see the film. Where is that rage being stoked up now? Tiktok, 4chan? A variety of places?

Is this the whole "depicting bad things is endorsing them" thing again?

Was it me or was that a Mad Max cameo with his Pursuit Special near the end? Was it not him who returned Furiosa to the Citadel?

It was him, yeah -- credits confirmed it -- but I guess the implication was he just sat up there and went "Huh, that's odd," and then went on his way. (Allegedly the other screenplay/story Miller has ready for this whole miniMax cycle is called The Wasteland and is about exactly what Max was doing there in the runup to Fury Road, but we'll see if that ever happens now.)

yeah, both me and mk2 blurted out loud : 'hang on, that's mad max .. '
loved the sneaky cameo ..

i literally yelled “MAX” in my theatre screening lol

i am a five year old

I definitely saw that part as it was Max who saved her

I don't think Max is handing her over to the human parts scavenger cave people!

I agree that it was probably just a little cameo to show he's out there in the wasteland prior to Fury Road

I took it more as she would have just died out there if not for some mysterious intervention

honestly, I think the History Men are doing a fair bit of unreliable narration in this part of the franchise

print the legend (on your own skin)

Mad Max saving a one-armed Furiosa and having no recollection of her years later, even for a drifter like him, would be some real Kenobi tv series shit.

i took it as an easter egg, hey, there's our Max. don't think we're meant to know who saved her. she was far enough away from her pursuers that anybody that came along could have taken her back.

Fair enough - just odd editing encouraging some ambiguous conclusions to be drawn! Either way, I was geeked at the cameo

i only take my orders from octobeard

Challenging my authority

I feel like Max seems less mad as this series goes on and we keep meeting crazier characters

Crazy parking situation at the theater, preceded by stressful planning/confusion as to whether or not we would be able to use the tickets we’d bought. Mall is mobbed and out of hand. Get in there: get to the bathroom, get to seats. Both of us start to mellow out and anticipate previews- and then are told that the movie is cancelled because AC isn’t working in this theater. Which must have been the case in other theaters, because the guest services line was such a nightmare that we left without a refund.

Between that and the fact that local theaters are cutting back on this movie, a library rental is probably how I’ll ultimately see it.

Who cares about watching a dystopian movie, you're living it

lol true

Furious: A Cinema Max Saga

Heh Ned

I sometimes wonder what the theater going experience is like now for people who go 4-8 times per month — cancellations, audiences, etc etc

(But that’s another thread, of course)

are you wondering about people who go that few times?

lol the movie was like $18 a ticket and i took my 18 and 20 yr old kids and they bought poison treats. so if they pulled Raymond's situation without a refund i would have been uh pretty agitatious. Agitatious Hunt3r is my madmax avatar name.

otoh furiosa was in like 3 or 4 screens of the multiplex and our seats were like, (p)leather recliners? which is fucked up and that's not what i want anyway and the entire main room (80-100 seats? dunno) was empty but for us, i think there were people in the upstairs luxury suite or something they had and... wtf. i tried hard, focused on enjoying the movie and i did, though i'll think hard about doing that again.

ha can you tell i'm not cinema guy

“ Agitatious Hunt3r” is a nickname that should come with a land trident or something

Raymond and anyone else interested: I can't emphasize enough the lack of stress at a screening before noon or on weekday afternoons. If your job and family permit it, do it! I watch at least four movies a month and have never dealt with lines or kids.

we always do mornings on weekends in our downtown cineplex, problem-free to date (touch wood)

and you can have lunch afterwards!

i resented it at first (not exactly a morning person) but now i like it

I go to about 20 movies a month and the only significant problem I’ve had this year was the only time I went outside of my regular clutch of 9 cinemas, to see Furiosa at the proper IMAX. It was the first time I’ve ever pre-bought tickets for a non-festival screening, and had to queue outdoors for half an hour while they sold walk-up tickets to the Science Center that contains the screen, and then exchange the tickets for another day, because the gate for separate entry was unstaffed.

Are you all having the experience of big multiplexes with like 2-3 people working the whole place? At least at the Regal theaters I go to, they’re like ghost towns. (AMC was even worse, but they’ve closed all the AMCs around us.)

yeah. we’re down by a bunch of theaters because the handful of large theaters around town were owned by Carmike, who got bought by AMC, who then later shuttered almost all of them. staffing was abysmal before they did

yeah the local Regal started only opening the bar in the lobby on weekends and Thursdays, usually only two lines open.

AMC I've only ever seen 2-3 people working concessions at the one near my house, but the one at Disney Springs is fairly busy for obv reasons. there's another even lower-traffic AMC whose managers are trying to cut costs so much that they ignore the pre-orders that they advertise through the app, have one guy take the order and make the food, and wait for people to show up asking where the fuck their food is. went there twice, same thing both times - angry line of pre-ordered food people, two people in the actual line. and the line of new customers getting helped first.

Hemsworth pronounces big words as if he just learned them. It works!

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, May 31, 2024 1:53 PM bookmarkflaglink

and the character even has a guy on staff whose job is to help him out with the big words!

saw this today and really liked it. I wasn't really enthused going in, kinda BECAUSE i love Fury Road so much. i think i was like, "best case, this is a not-as-good Fury Road and i don't really need that to exist." but i was pleasantly surprised to find it was its own thing --- MUCH plottier, surely about fifty times as much dialogue and shuttling between distinct locales rather than primarily focused on The Road itself. it's more of an "adventure" movie, though only in comparison with Fury Road could i be tempted to say it's not an "action" movie.

that is ---- Fury Road is this distilled, minimalist-story, maximalist-execution thing, taking its emotional payoffs to an elemental level. this didn't have anything that knocked my socks off like the conclusion of Nux's arc or the agony of Furiosa halfway through Fury Road, but it's a phenomenal yarn with a compelling lead performance and another incredible showcase of wacky characters, design details, and complications that could ensue in a car chase. the long run time flew by.

I have been thinking about this in terms of Furiosa omens that she is going to wreak havoc in the last act. teddy bears, scarfs, arms left dangling

i really loved this, though it's so drastically different from Fury Road that i can understand why some people might be put off. it's not a relentless action film (though in comparison to other films not named Fury Road it's vv heavy on the action), it's a survival and revenge saga, almost veering into that subgenre of "outback horror", so it's best to approach it like that. as befitting that type of film, it's a lot bleaker, and much gorier. the horrors are truly horrifying, vs Fury Road, which only hinted at horrors and that film was a thrilling escape from them, with the action being underscored by that tension of not just the pursuing vehicles, but what they represented and what would be lost if they were captured. what Furiosa goes through fully makes you understand that character in Fury Road even more.

Hemsworth is great and fully despicable, but this really belongs to Anya Taylor-Joy, who is incredible. And she sounds so much like Theron during her few lines of dialogue, it's a bit uncanny. They both absolutely own the part, and in another, more fair world they'd both walk away with Oscars for it.

i did read somewhere that in the younger actress's later scenes they cgi'd her to look more like taylor-joy, so that the transition between actresses would be smoother. i wonder if they did something similary with taylor-joy's dialogue near the end. it is pretty uncanny.

i thought the kid playing furiosa was also absolutely brilliant tbf

the episodic approach here worked,.in total contrast to fury road which never pauses at all

Yeah that kid was incredible

I've read reviews bemoaning the supposed pretentiousness of the chapter titles, and I mean gtfo with that, I loved it.

Apparently the Blu-Ray street date is August 13, which is probably when it'll be available for rent on Amazon for less than $25 (what they're currently charging). I'll check it out then.

"Whenever I hear [the word] 'pretentious'... I remove the safety from my Browning!"

Chapter titles are great

I prefer this to Fury Road.

Everything about this movie was so fun and imaginative. Genuinely depressing to me that people come out of this Leone-esque near-masterpiece griping about cgi and chapter titles.

I think I’ll always prefer Fury Road because it’s emotional pay offs are so unexpected and seem to emerge so effortlessly from the set up but this is a very rich film.

I do prefer Fury Road, but this film is great and it will likely grow in stature. The headlines primarily being about its box office performance are disheartening of course, but thank christ Miller was able to get the chance to make this.

Every Mad Max film is stylistically, tonally and editorially different from the previous. Complaints about this are the product of weak, diseased minds.

did read somewhere that in the younger actress's later scenes they cgi'd her to look more like taylor-jo

she’s 35% cgi at the start (eyes are obv in the green place, toned down during the heist), 80% during the stowaway chapter

(I ddg’d these deets after my first viewing bcz it was so apparent. complaints abt the producer/writer/director of the Babe movies from THREE DECADES AGO using cgi for effect, esp if they’re arguing they were fooled, are equally dismissable.)

you've got multiplex audiences whose minds have been dulled by blockbuster story beats and clean, flat directorial styles and they're not used to this kind of thing. I still remember when Fury Road came out and a co-worker of mine thought it was just a sloppy mess, he kept negatively comparing it to San Andreas lol.

WHAT

what a maroon

I was appalled, I would have fired him except I'm not sure I had the authority anyway and unfortunately that's probably not a firable offense. Seriously though, I'm thinking I might try to watch furiosa again tonight.

it's a bizarre objection - one of its most noticeable aspects is that it's a single movement of a film. it more or less starts moving and doesn't stop, with a sort of bungee cord kineticism - go out, come back. that's it. incredible tightly edited and stage managed within that single dynamic. 'sloppy' holy moley.

I prefer this to Fury Road.

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2024 01:04 (eleven hours ago)

Likewise, it just has a chance to breathe a bit more.

watched it again, thought it was even better the second time around. it really achieves a nice balance of making you well aware that Furiosa is for the moment better off working for Immortan Joe but never for a second making him sympathetic or remotely likable. he and Furiosa never bond or have an uneasy truce, he basically ignores her for the most part and dismisses her, she's only able to achieve her final revenge by stealing a vehicle from his failsons and heading off into the desert. there are certainly film series or tv series which fall into the opposite Harvey Dent Dark Knight trap of "the villain either dies or stays alive long enough to become some kind of hero", but she remains aware of how horrific IJ and his crew are, she's just taking care of her priorities first. the final revenge is indeed epic.

This is on Max now; might check it out this weekend. (Three medium-sized writing projects may disagree.)

i have a feeling my tv is going to wreck the visuals given how old it is

Well... I made it to the end. I know I hated FURY ROAD the first time I saw it, and/but it eventually grew on me, but I really don't see that happening with this one. It was... dull. At this point I'm mostly just glad Miller's never let anyone else direct one of these, so the series will likely end with him.

I didn't like Fury Road but this was a big improvement - it dragged a bit (okay, a fair amount - you could totally cut this under two hours) in the last third but everything up to then was compelling in a way that Fury Road's music video aesthetic was not.

Watched Mad Max and Road Warrior over the last couple of weeks and it's an eternal lol that these movies are in the same universe.

*cough* sorry not to be that guy but George Ogilvie co-directed Thunderdome - bc of Kennedy’s death, Miller abdicated the majority if the movie to Ogilviw bc his heart wasn’t in it

and he bowed out completely until he was persuaded to join the production in progress to shoot the Thunderdome sequence

the idea that this was better than fury road is....something

I think it's 0.87% better than Fury Road, maybe.

I believe there was a low budget movie made after Fury Road set in this world with Miller's blessing but I can't find it

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『マッドマックス：フュリオサ』
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“怒りの戦士” #フュリオサ 降臨🦾🔥

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some promotional art by Tesuo Hara (Fist Of The North Star)

i think it’s charlize theron’s voice dubbed in over anya tj once furiosa and pj escape the bullet farm - or at least they’re treating atj’s voice somehow to sound like theron’s from that point on

the big moments weren’t always the same for me seeing it at home vs the cinema. i noticed furiosa’s badass moments more. the severed hand and the “tying your shoelaces together” moment for dementus, and furiosa speeding away into the horizon on chekhov’s motocross bike. so good

furiosa actually having the temerity to grab immortan’s arm as he’s leaving, to physically stop him, to ORDER him, that if they find dementus “he’s mine”. woooof

rictus and scrotus’s utter haplessness reaching its apogee as she steals their harpoon coupe right out from under them

I didn't find it dull at all.

I liked Fury Road better than this. Fury Road was leaner, meaner and had just as much awesome world building and emotional punch without as much "do you see"/exposition and nigh-Marvel nonsense. Still, a very enjoyable movie.

Chris Hemsworth should get an Oscar for his line reading of "adorable" upon viewing Immortan Joe for the first time. His dunderheaded WWE nihilism/amiability was the best part of the movie for me.