Get in here, loons
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:16 (seven months ago) link
Very good
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:17 (seven months ago) link
Oddly starting this with Mason news.
Breaking: ISLINGTON NORTH Labour shortlist Sem Moema . Praful Nargund— lee harpin (@lmharpin) May 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:18 (seven months ago) link
breaking: stoya cancelling travel plans
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:20 (seven months ago) link
From The Guardian blog quoting a tweet by a pol analyst:
Was in Westminster all day. Understand there’s 5 major reasons for @RishiSunak July 4 election gamble
1/ Key aides told PM inflation is now at its “election sweet spot” - 2.3% was today’s print - & warned it may rise again by autumn
2/ No fiscal space for NI cuts in Sept 1/
3/ Concern legal challenges will further delay/block flights to Rwanda taking off
4/ Mess in the English Channel with small boats during the summer months
5/ Nigel Farage hasn’t yet decided whether to front Reform UK, so snap poll may boost Tory prospects
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:34 (seven months ago) link
Praful Nargund?
― I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:35 (seven months ago) link
if they won't accept Comrade Mason they should offer a spot to Dunty
https://x.com/IanDunt/status/1793343773667480015
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:41 (seven months ago) link
truly the most perfect idiot in the whole world, a brain as smooth as his scalp
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:48 (seven months ago) link
Nargund is a private IVF clinic chief executive, who really cares about healthcare inequities
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:54 (seven months ago) link
Dunt isn't an idiot, he just plays one for money.
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 23:38 (seven months ago) link
Mason the early Starmer adopter, most consistent apologist/obsequious toady towards him for almost 5 years and all he gets in return is one humiliating rejection after another - which is all he deserves tbf.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 05:59 (six months ago) link
I am sorry Tom D you will not be able to vote for this man
I didn't make the shortlist in @IslingtonNorth . Thanks to all those in the CLP who signed up to campaign for me, and to SERA for endorsing me. It's vital that we get out the vote the selected candidate, and keep Islington North red! ✊— Paul Mason (@paulmasonnews) May 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 07:01 (six months ago) link
No-one likes him he does care.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtTdQm57_MU
― I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 07:20 (six months ago) link
100 empty spots to fill, keep on keeping on Paul
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 May 2024 07:28 (six months ago) link
If he wasn't such a weirdo who likes making a shit ton of noise he would've got into one of those.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:05 (six months ago) link
as well as being a foolish and deeply unlikable man I don't think he's ever been forgiven by the right for his supporting Corbyn years.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:09 (six months ago) link
Yeah there's no place in today's Labour for people whose politics change with the wind to support their own personal aggrandisement
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:12 (six months ago) link
that's what they'll throw at Starmer, he can offer evidence that he helped finish off Corbyn by quoting the "People's Vote was a conspiracy" parts of the Eagleton book!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:17 (six months ago) link
he's an embarrassment because he actually believes things, even if he has forced himself to believe them to fit in. I remember a kid like him at school.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:18 (six months ago) link
No Rwanda flights till after the election. If Reform get their act together its even worse for the Tories.
It also means a very grim debate where Starmer has to promise deportations of sone kind.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:25 (six months ago) link
Getting suicide-by-cop vibes from all of this, like Sunak is pleading with the election to put him out of his misery.
― I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:37 (six months ago) link
the guy just wants a long summer break in california so he can pick out a house, move there ASAP, and die horribly in the record-breaking wildfires of 2028 enjoy a long and happy life
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:47 (six months ago) link
maybe it was just a case of lose a suicide-election in the summertime or lose a confidence vote and resign
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:54 (six months ago) link
The calculations are that Rwanda flights will never get off the ground, that inflation might go up (so no interest rate cuts), and that they cannot offer anything but tax rises bcz of the state of public finances.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:57 (six months ago) link
to gazzara's point, the domiciled tax status laws are getting changed next year yeah?
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:58 (six months ago) link
the way he brought up the furlough scheme yesterday seemed desperate, it was almost like he was inferring he paid it all out of his own pocket.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:05 (six months ago) link
it was like in the manner of a slimy boss giving you a tiny inconsequential pay rise and then never letting you forget about it
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:12 (six months ago) link
The only time the guy was popular is when he gave lots of people money.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:24 (six months ago) link
also when he gave us rona dinners
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:30 (six months ago) link
How soon we forget "dishy Rishi".
― I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:38 (six months ago) link
eat out to help out just a porn video name to most people now
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:39 (six months ago) link
a furlough scheme that was actually proposed and pushed for by McDonnell iirc and which sunak was originally dead set against…
― bingo dabber acid, Thursday, 23 May 2024 11:44 (six months ago) link
and a furlough scheme which deliberately excluded hundreds of thousands of self-employed people, my wife being among them
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2024 11:50 (six months ago) link
xpto me there's no question that if Corbyn and McDonnell hadn't been at the despatch box in early 2020 we would never have got the furlough measures we did get, flawed as they were
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 23 May 2024 12:08 (six months ago) link
Quietly impressed by The Green Party response here. Has the right people crying about it.
Nothing to see here. Just @TheGreenParty leader on Radio 4 failing to condemn one of her fellow Green candidates for liking a post which said "we have to destroy Zionism". And she has the chutzpah to refer to the EHRC report into Labour's antisemitism to boot. What a state. pic.twitter.com/QrAo4fynZz— Mike Katz (@mikekatz) May 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 12:28 (six months ago) link
From a locked acc:
"On Politics Weekly, Kiran explains that Sunak would rather get drenched than be compared to noted brolly loser Steve McLaren. Optics discourse is incredible"
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 12:46 (six months ago) link
Union Jack gazebos are a thing:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165496541979
― Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 23 May 2024 15:36 (six months ago) link
behold, the Racism Cube
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2024 15:43 (six months ago) link
Don't let Starmer know or he'll be doing his press conferences from inside one.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 15:48 (six months ago) link
he already is, psychically
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 May 2024 16:42 (six months ago) link
dismal
Keir Starmer needs you to vote for Reform on July 4th.A vote for Reform is a vote to put Keir Starmer into power. pic.twitter.com/CGVoo5snGc— Conservatives (@Conservatives) May 23, 2024
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2024 17:21 (six months ago) link
in fairness his politics are more or less identical to theirs
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 May 2024 17:23 (six months ago) link
And I would have got away with it if it hadn't been for you meddling Conservative Party Central Office political advisers.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 17:26 (six months ago) link
A more abstract approach would be better: "vote Labour, you get Starmer as pm" with Starmer getting a Starmer mask yanked off, revealing that this confirms that he is indeed Starmer.
^^I'm giving this one for free, if my name was saatchi & saatchi I could charge millions for this shit!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 17:49 (six months ago) link
I like that, you'll go far in this game
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 23 May 2024 17:50 (six months ago) link
Still an opportunity for Paul Mason
NEW Conservative HQ have emailed asking for candidates in almost 100 seats When candidates ask when the deadline is, they have been told it’s 48 hours, according to 2 I’ve spoken to Some Tory associations are pretty livid at having been left in such an unprepared situation pic.twitter.com/baBLr6TiMK— Paul McNamara (@PGMcNamara) May 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:26 (six months ago) link
lol, only a matter of time before serial carpetbagger Mason declares that the only way to advance the class struggle is by running as a Tory candidate.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 May 2024 00:40 (six months ago) link
Islington North too, he could run against Corbyn after all!
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 06:31 (six months ago) link
It’s official!
https://www.islingtontribune.co.uk/article/jeremy-corbyn-why-i-am-standing-as-an-independent-candidate-at-the-general-election
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 07:14 (six months ago) link
Excited for the Lab right focusing a proportionate amount of time and attention on this.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 07:59 (six months ago) link
... and the Tories. Stoked for this particular madness.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 08:02 (six months ago) link
Lol
One #bbcqt audience member: "I've come to this program really wanting to listen to what the Labour Party is going to say. I used to vote for the Labour Party, and you've not answered any question at all"Bridget Phillipson smiles. pic.twitter.com/W6rwKMLvuq— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) May 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 08:43 (six months ago) link
6 more weeks of this to come.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 08:52 (six months ago) link
https://x.com/dril/status/473265809079693312
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 24 May 2024 08:52 (six months ago) link
a dril for all seasons
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 24 May 2024 08:53 (six months ago) link
Bridget Phillipson smiles and a baby dies
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 24 May 2024 09:06 (six months ago) link
she looks like she's actively getting off on this
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 24 May 2024 09:45 (six months ago) link
hitler horn
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 May 2024 09:50 (six months ago) link
your mission should you choose to accept it is to go on question time and say nothing of substance
― conrad, Friday, 24 May 2024 10:55 (six months ago) link
All these Labour women with Gina McKee in Our Friends in the North haircuts, can barely tell them apart.
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 10:57 (six months ago) link
This is fascinating, to me
not an original observation but it’s fascinating how many Starmer leadership pledges have been unceremoniously dumped pic.twitter.com/Zv7PBwLyJL— Jim Pickard 🐋 (@PickardJE) May 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 10:58 (six months ago) link
I also find it fascinating that he had an affair with Baroness Jenny Chapman
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 May 2024 11:01 (six months ago) link
All these Labour women with Gina McKee in Our Friends in the North haircuts, can barely tell them apart.― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 11:57 (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 11:57 (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
They've all copped Gina McKee's haircut from Our Friends and Gina McKee's attitude from Brass Eye
"I'm going in now, like a bad boy"
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 24 May 2024 11:06 (six months ago) link
This another McKee haircut?
The graffiti says "Stop art-washing"It is in response to Seret International Film Festival, which is funded by the Israeli government.The Israeli state is committing a genocide as we speak.Get a grip lol https://t.co/8j8Q6aVhQu pic.twitter.com/bikHJH3nHV— jewdⒶs // ייִדהודה (@jewdas) May 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 13:08 (six months ago) link
She's my local Labour candidate. I will enjoy not voting for her.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 24 May 2024 13:57 (six months ago) link
Here is the briefcase who is going up against JC
Congratulations @prafulnargund - you will be a fantastic Labour MP for Islington North, and I can’t wait to join you on the doorstep to help get you elected! https://t.co/2T7eaiZpOw— Sem Moema 🌹🐝💪🏾 (@Semakaleng) May 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 14:01 (six months ago) link
good luck chump
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 May 2024 14:15 (six months ago) link
even before you read about his private healthcare background, he's just so visibly an absolute cunt!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 May 2024 14:17 (six months ago) link
yeah he definitely gets voted out early on the apprentice
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 24 May 2024 14:55 (six months ago) link
I've got to admit I was somewhat worried they might pick the other candidate, who seemed quite pleasant and sympathetic, but how beautifully in character for them to settle for this utter bellend.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:03 (six months ago) link
https://www.prafulnargund.co.uk/
Private SiteThis site is currently private. If you’re the owner or contributor, log in.
― h.p. lovecraft's backing singers (Matt #2), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:22 (six months ago) link
The other one had to dip out because she was a political ally of the Hackney P**do.
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:26 (six months ago) link
So many Labour supporters online seem to be apoplectic about Corbyn's decision to stand as an indie and his resulting expulsion from the LP. Why?You'd think they'd be happy he's out of the party and they now have the chance to win the seat for Starmer's Labour? What gives?
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 24 May 2024 15:35 (six months ago) link
only Islington North betting I've seen quoted was from William Kedjanyi who had made Corbyn the 8/13 fav, but was from before the stuffed suit challenger was unveiled.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:37 (six months ago) link
I was looking on the bet365 site, it has a ton of consituencies there but no sign of Islington North yet
― anvil, Friday, 24 May 2024 15:39 (six months ago) link
xxp
like he has waited until the day the Labour candidate is announced, not badmouthed the party. There is nothing they can criticise him for here.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:40 (six months ago) link
I expect Will’s odds will go even more favourably for JC. The stuffed suit looks like someone who appears on You’re Fired in week 3 of an Apprentice season.
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:49 (six months ago) link
they’ve never let ‘there’s nothing they can criticise him for here’ stop them criticising him before tbf
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:58 (six months ago) link
Lol just came across this interview with members of D:Ream
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/jun/05/how-we-made-d-ream-things-can-only-get-better-tony-blair-election-alistair-campbell-
"The song’s become associated with great times and positivity. This year, for the first time in my life, I’m voting Labour."
Published in...2017
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 16:26 (six months ago) link
to be fair it's not really possible to vote Labour when you live in Northern Ireland.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 24 May 2024 16:35 (six months ago) link
Standing down: Michael Gove!
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:09 (six months ago) link
Fantastic! Get tae fuck!!!
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:11 (six months ago) link
OMG this guy... the teeth, the hair, the eyes...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsdpQT9bb5M
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:27 (six months ago) link
He looks like Garry Shandling.
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:37 (six months ago) link
Gove should check with Baddiel whether he fancies making another series of A Stab in the Dark
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:38 (six months ago) link
I genuinely dislike making fun of names, but the fact that this guy's name is similar to pratfall is apposite, for the role he's being given
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 24 May 2024 18:44 (six months ago) link
Apparently we are also saying adieu to Dread Some Anal.
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:57 (six months ago) link
Has this cunt got the easiest path to PM ever? This is like when some extremely mid NBA team winds up facing injury depleted squads and lucks into a championship. Corbyn had fuckin Brexit around his neck the whole time
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 May 2024 20:13 (six months ago) link
So Kieth is the Minnesota Timberwolves now?
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 20:50 (six months ago) link
The path looks stupidly easy, it's mainly for comedy's sake I hope he fails, but also because he's an evil cunt who represents evil, either way
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 May 2024 21:01 (six months ago) link
He's an evil reperasentative!
― Mark G, Friday, 24 May 2024 22:31 (six months ago) link
All set up for him to win 400 seats, be completely useless and doom y’all to another 12 years of Tories right?
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 24 May 2024 23:46 (six months ago) link
that could conceivably happen with him getting 2 million less votes than Corbyn got in "worst ever result for the Labour Party since 1935". It won't happen though because of Gaza, Galloway, the Greens, other Indies after encouraging results in the Locals, I think the SNP will do better than the polling suggests and of course even the Tories are never going to get wiped out as badly as the polling suggests, especially against an insipid cunt like Kieth.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 May 2024 00:29 (six months ago) link
its likely to be a low turnout election, probably the lowest post 1945 (and therefore presumably ever), as support for all of the parties has evaporated (and the new ukip/brexit party doesn't look like taking any advantage of that at all)
If Labour win the Tories will self-immolate though, one part will say they weren't right wing enough and the other part will say they were too right wing. Can't tell which side will win out and it could take a long time to pan out, think the first group will eventually win out though. UK voters have a relatively unusual incumbency bias, and in the aggregate tend to vote for 'the government', whoever that is. Might change going forward but if Labour win this one they'll be odds on for the next one too and potentially the one after that
There's also structural stuff about how each party torches part of its future vote that doesnt come into play until years later, with voter distribution changing with tomorrow important seats not necessarily being todays important seats
― anvil, Saturday, 25 May 2024 01:10 (six months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/25/election-pm-change-politics-keir-starmer-rishi-sunak
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 10:07 (six months ago) link
frankly amazed The Guardian still lets Chakrabortty call out what they essentially stand for
― imago, Saturday, 25 May 2024 10:18 (six months ago) link
Boris Johnson launches an attack on Keir Starmer in the Daily Mail"He takes responsibility for everything that took place on his watch - except of course for the failure to prosecute the paedophile, necrophiliac and BBC superstar Jimmy Saville"
"He takes responsibility for everything that took place on his watch - except of course for the failure to prosecute the paedophile, necrophiliac and BBC superstar Jimmy Saville"
Boris otm. You vote Starmer - you get legalised necrophillia.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 May 2024 10:58 (six months ago) link
Sounds good to me
― h.p. lovecraft's backing singers (Matt #2), Saturday, 25 May 2024 10:59 (six months ago) link
Boris speaking truth to power
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 11:11 (six months ago) link
The Mail's front page is somewhat amusing for having the Johnson 'back to the 70s (you know a decade we were in power for half of) with Fidel Keirstro' rehash directly above the splash of a desperate vow by Reeves that they won't ever deviate from the What Would Tories Do? little blue book.
― nashwan, Saturday, 25 May 2024 11:12 (six months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/25/thames-water-vomiting-bug-cryptosporidium?
The incoming collpase of Thames Water is another reasson for an early general.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 11:42 (six months ago) link
I would love to be certain that Corbyn will win but there's a lot of soppy middle class liberals in this area, all of whom are going to turn out to vote and will experience no problems trying to vote.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/25/loved-islington-voters-40-year-connection-to-jeremy-corbyn
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 May 2024 12:54 (six months ago) link
yeah tbh I think it's 50/50 at best
― nashwan, Saturday, 25 May 2024 12:57 (six months ago) link
i don't think he's a lock either and fun as it will be if he wins there are bigger PLP fish to fry
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 May 2024 12:58 (six months ago) link
Doesn't matter if JC loses he'll - - and I don't say this to slight him - - just keep doing campaigns till he is no longer able.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 14:12 (six months ago) link
Yeah but the briefcase banter will be intolerable
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 25 May 2024 14:40 (six months ago) link
Today on Twitter: many briefcases complaining about the_far_left calling them briefcases.
― steely flan (suzy), Saturday, 25 May 2024 14:56 (six months ago) link
If I see one more "Starmer is a horny-handed son of toil" tweet I'm gonna run amok I swear
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 May 2024 15:32 (six months ago) link
Guardian reporter doing the rounds in Islington North just happens to bump into Boaby G (I had no idea he lived in the same constituency as me!)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/25/defeat-would-be-a-big-blow-labour-faces-double-trouble-of-corbyn-and-abbott-in-islington-and-hackney
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 May 2024 18:10 (six months ago) link
... no guarantee that he does, of course.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 May 2024 18:13 (six months ago) link
I think he’s up in Highbury?
― steely flan (suzy), Saturday, 25 May 2024 18:15 (six months ago) link
Further up Highbury Park, the Primal Scream singer Bobby Gillespie is on his way to celebrate his wife’s birthday. “I’ll definitely vote for Corbyn,” he says.He described the former Labour leader as a “great British patriot who wants the best for everybody”. Getting into his stride in a long disquisition on the state of Britain, he says he’s disillusioned with parliamentary politics, quotes Noam Chomsky and denounces the “worldwide network of financial capitalism” before finishing off with a two-fingered salute and: “Fuck Labour.”Right on Boaby :)
― nashwan, Saturday, 25 May 2024 18:26 (six months ago) link
Getting into his stride in a long disquisition on the state of Britain
You can sense said journo edging away, panic in their eyes
― h.p. lovecraft's backing singers (Matt #2), Saturday, 25 May 2024 18:31 (six months ago) link
"But by the same token, defeat would mean an ignominious end to a parliamentary career that has spanned five decades and will almost certainly be the final nail in the coffin for Corbynism."
Thames Water will need a government rescue by the end of the year. The things thrown up by the Corbyn leadership will not go away.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 19:26 (six months ago) link
Corbynism, that's totally a real thing
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 May 2024 19:38 (six months ago) link
Lol I know.
Meanwhile if this narrows more as time goes on I am really going to enjoy these ppl squirm.
🚨 NEW: The first Opinium poll of the general election campaign sees its highest Tory share since March 🔴 LAB: 41% (-2) 🔵 CON: 27% (+2) 🟠 LDM: 10% (+1) 🟣 RFM: 10% (=)🟢 GRN: 7% (=)🟡 SNP 2% (-1) 23-24 MayChanges w/ 15-17 May— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) May 25, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 19:44 (six months ago) link
The Blue Bounce continuesBreakingThe prime minister unveils a plan that would see 18-year-olds given the choice of a full-time military placement for 12 months or a scheme to volunteer for one weekend a month for a year
― nashwan, Saturday, 25 May 2024 21:29 (six months ago) link
"Sixteen- and 17-year-olds could be given the right to vote if Labour wins the general election, Keir Starmer has confirmed."
But why oh why believe him etc.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 21:50 (six months ago) link
rishi's desperation is just incredible. he called the election just a couple of days ago and he's already stooping to nonsense like that? can't wait to see what he's got up his sleeve next
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Saturday, 25 May 2024 22:00 (six months ago) link
more concerned that he'll give Labour ideas tbh
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 May 2024 22:05 (six months ago) link
Lab's response was to go on about cost. That's their default for everything
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 22:08 (six months ago) link
Hope Sunak just starts announcing debates like Trump while Keef cowers. GB News will probably empty chair him.The Conservatives are pushing for six TV debates, one each week of the campaign, but Labour officials will only commit to two - run by the BBC and ITV.
― nashwan, Saturday, 25 May 2024 22:35 (six months ago) link
tbf on the empty chair - it's probably more capable of pretending to be a human being and giving substantive answers to questions than Starmer is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 May 2024 22:58 (six months ago) link
xyzzzz__ at 11:08 25 May 24Lab's response was to go on about cost. That's their default for everything
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 26 May 2024 08:10 (six months ago) link
I can guarantee you that the 18 yr old who volunteers one weekend a month will turn up hungover, uninterested and useless, be put in a cupboard to do some basic filing, and nobody will get anything out of the experience - especially the 18 yr olds who won't be able to get a part-time job because their availability for retail and hospitality will be ruined. Not that it needs repeating, but this is nonsense that's been dreamed up by someone who has no clue how the world operates and looks in 2024.
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 26 May 2024 08:12 (six months ago) link
Nailed on that his girls wouldn’t be doing this.
― steely flan (suzy), Sunday, 26 May 2024 08:19 (six months ago) link
Tories have finally run out of minorities to shit on so they're shitting on the young.
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Sunday, 26 May 2024 08:28 (six months ago) link
The funding question was a good one, seeing as the answer seems to be "by cracking down on Tax evasion"
Yeah, right. That's gonna happen!
― Mark G, Sunday, 26 May 2024 08:39 (six months ago) link
'There will be no return to austerity under a Labour government,' says Rachel ReevesGuessing nobody challenged the glaringly bullshit premise implied by the phrase “return to austerity” hereAlso rest assured she will have also said “difficult decisions” 500 times
― subpost master (wins), Sunday, 26 May 2024 10:48 (six months ago) link
you know I am absolutely no fan of labour, but mentioning the massive expense of national service is a pretty easy and effective response rather than getting bogged down in the other reasons it's a stupid idea― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 26 May 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Costs can be weighed one way or another. If this was a coherent plan, with an ideology behind it that was communicated properly, 'cost' wouldn't be a response.
As the boat crossings increase due to climate emegencies cost will quickly become an inadequate response to the Rwanda plan.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 May 2024 11:00 (six months ago) link
Tha lawyers love him.
Everyone I've spoken to about @Keir_Starmer whilst he was at the Bar has a story to tell like this. It's really striking: there's a genuine, consistent and strong admiration for him. Let's hope he finds and exhibits this quality as Prime Minister. https://t.co/9wMYmEhwku— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) May 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 May 2024 11:35 (six months ago) link
he's just so friendly to dogs as well, i hear
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 26 May 2024 11:38 (six months ago) link
I'm sure Jimmy Savile felt the same.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 May 2024 11:41 (six months ago) link
A doozy of an article.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/26/it-is-foolish-and-self-indulgent-for-the-anti-starmer-left-to-split-the-labour-vote
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 May 2024 12:08 (six months ago) link
this "Starmer is a good person" shit would be more convincing if it didn't suddenly appear in the context of rallying support to elect somebody who looks like a venal self-serving little cunt every time he speaks in public
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 May 2024 12:11 (six months ago) link
important good faith thoughts from Sonia "I'm voting for anybody but Corbyn" Sodha
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 May 2024 12:12 (six months ago) link
At least a dozen other Graun regulars could and probably will front p much that exact same article over the next five weeks.
Meanwhile theres's gall and then there's this:
“It will be an outright outrage if Murdoch supports Starmer,” said Mackenzie, the Sun’s former editor. “He was the man who brought prosecutions against journalists. They were cleared, but they had their lives destroyed or disrupted. It would be a low blow.”
― nashwan, Sunday, 26 May 2024 12:41 (six months ago) link
Hm, what would be the funniest way for Kelvin Mackenzie to have his life destroyed?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 26 May 2024 12:46 (six months ago) link
meanwhile, in scotland
Ouch. After trying repeatedly to dodge giving an answer, Scottish Labour leader Anas Sarwar admits on Sunday Show that his family's wholesale business (in which he no longer has shares) does not pay all its workers the real living wage despite his party's plan to improve it— Tom Gordon (@HTScotPol) May 26, 2024
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 26 May 2024 13:59 (six months ago) link
His whole family are dodgy as fuck, if you ask me.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 May 2024 14:05 (six months ago) link
Labour Friends of Sweated Labour
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 May 2024 14:11 (six months ago) link
Rachel Reeves in The Daily Mail:
https://archive.ph/OPqc1#selection-1423.0-1427.76
But I know from talking to businesses over the past three years that stability and investment are not enough to kick-start our economy. We need reform, too. That means a serious plan to get the long-term sick – who have been let down by ballooning hospital waiting lists, failing mental health support, an inflexible welfare state, and inadequate employment support – back to work.If you can work, you should work – that's why we're called the Labour Party.
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 26 May 2024 18:38 (six months ago) link
Far from the worst thing, but for me the most insultingly lazy erase-the-past pish
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 26 May 2024 18:40 (six months ago) link
https://i.scdn.co/image/ab67616d0000b27333723c1fa5d2d862c5d90870
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 26 May 2024 19:35 (six months ago) link
Forced Labour Party
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 26 May 2024 19:50 (six months ago) link
businesses have been telling you they're crying out to employ the seriously ill and disabled have they Rachel? that boosts the economy does it? it's not just murderous performative cruelty? you're gonna fix it by investing in healthcare and listening to what disabled people tell you about what they need? yeah it's gonna be great
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 May 2024 20:27 (six months ago) link
get the idle rich to put an honest shift in first perhaps
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 26 May 2024 20:30 (six months ago) link
LOL
‘Int milk brilliant?’Rishi Sunak here looking like he’s in a scene from the Fast ShowGood lord it just gets worse and worse pic.twitter.com/AYAgv7GIDA— Stuzi 🐝🐝 (@stuzi_pants) May 26, 2024
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Monday, 27 May 2024 11:26 (six months ago) link
"sleepy Kier" is really desperate, pitiful stuff, so of course all the sensibles are signal boosting it to death
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 May 2024 13:37 (six months ago) link
Who needs bots?
i wonder what the text from labour hq said x pic.twitter.com/kVsAjSeC0H— Ben Smoke (@bencsmoke) May 27, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 May 2024 13:38 (six months ago) link
Labour’s manifesto launchpic.twitter.com/qTfviN1A9Y— troovus (@troovus) May 27, 2024
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 May 2024 13:52 (six months ago) link
lol
― subpost master (wins), Monday, 27 May 2024 15:25 (six months ago) link
Imagibe getting back to hung parliament
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/27/labour-polling-lead-conservatives-overstated-tory-election-expert
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 May 2024 17:44 (six months ago) link
the After Laughter (Comes Tears) election, but it will be worth it just for the laughter.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 27 May 2024 17:52 (six months ago) link
Overstated polling lead not reflected in the bookies odds (yet?)
But I noticed UKIP are shorter odds than Reform. I didn't know UKIP still existed, or what it is Reform offer that UKIP didn't
― anvil, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 00:06 (six months ago) link
Eton educated MP (and son of Prue Leith) Danny Kruger argues in favour of national service on the basis that it challenges the "prevailing culture" of 'I'll do what I want, and Govt can do the work of looking after me.'
The National Service idea divides opinion - naturally. It's a bold proposal that challenges the prevailing culture of 'I'll do what I want, and Govt can do the work of looking after me.' There are good liberal reasons to object to anything compulsory... 1/2— Danny Kruger (@danny__kruger) May 28, 2024
seems like some of these guys are resigned to the fact they're going to lose and now just openly expressing their contempt for the electorate?
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 08:20 (six months ago) link
Its a virtue signal
― anvil, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 08:27 (six months ago) link
it's ingenious of them to find a way of taking the fact that everyone thinks they've done a crap job of running the country and reframe it as evidence of the entitlement and fecklessness of the public - oh, so you think the government should do everything for you?
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 08:29 (six months ago) link
how many days before he announces he's bringing back hanging?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 08:50 (six months ago) link
For everyone between the ages of 18 and 24.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 09:19 (six months ago) link
That and the "quadruple lock" on unfreezing tax (which they froze in the first place) so that pensioners will never pay tax is just a sign that one of the neurons has latched onto "old people vote and should love us" as the plan.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 09:23 (six months ago) link
Also: lolhttps://uk.news.yahoo.com/tory-mps-blamed-poor-start-123657177.html
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 09:26 (six months ago) link
the brexit hardman is on holiday in Greece for a GE campaign, that is slightly amusing.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 09:38 (six months ago) link
xxp i wonder if they will shift strategy when this doesn't work
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 09:57 (six months ago) link
State pension has risen to just a bit above the UK tax threshold so they have to do something about pensioners getting a surprise tax demand for a grand or so.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 10:09 (six months ago) link
Ed Davey fell in the water on purpose in a desperate attempt to remind the electorate he exists and you can't convince me otherwise
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 11:23 (six months ago) link
NEW: I can reveal Labour’s investigation into suspended MP Diane Abbott’s racism comments finished 5 months ago A source says she was given a ‘formal warning’ in Dec ‘23Ms Abbott was required to do an online ‘anti semitism course’ - which she did in FebYet source says she…— Victoria Derbyshire (@vicderbyshire) May 28, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 12:03 (six months ago) link
Insert Cilla gif here
Hateful party for hateful voters
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 12:09 (six months ago) link
This vibe as a voter offering
I met Cilla Black once - she sat at a table I'd reserved and refused to move. Her spiteful arrogance was astounding. pic.twitter.com/AY86JjznfH— BeCo (@BeCo74) August 2, 2015
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 12:11 (six months ago) link
Labour Friends of People Who Sit in the Train Seat You've Paid For
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 12:11 (six months ago) link
so Starmer has been hiding behind an investigation that finished 5 months ago when dodging questions about Abbott. Pathetic little lying fucker.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:09 (six months ago) link
xxp That's Rachel Reeves' look at you when you ask why she won't tax wealth to feed kids
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:21 (six months ago) link
you could see the visceral hatred towards Abbott in the texts between party insiders and the consensus probably is they want her out but it's just ever so slightly nagl to drive out the only senior black female MP. Nothing to do with having a shred of human decency, it's just makes for awkward PR.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:22 (six months ago) link
What's the betting the media will "suddenly" discover the scale of anti-black/anti-muslim racism in the Labour Party 6 months into the new parliament?
Speaking about taxing wealth, did we see that Starmer's answer to why he won't tax wealth is "we can't afford that" ?
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:30 (six months ago) link
xp especially when you theoretically want the votes of black people
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:35 (six months ago) link
Islington North odds with bet365
Labour 1.72Corbyn 2.00Lib Dem 34.00Conservative 41.00Reform 251.00Green 251.00
― anvil, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:40 (six months ago) link
Starsports have Corbyn fav but similarly close
― anvil, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:41 (six months ago) link
Pretty sure they assume black people will to vote for them anyway so they don't give a fuck.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:42 (six months ago) link
Yeah he needs dragging for this wtf
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 22:18 (six months ago) link
Jesus Christ
EXCL: A white Labour candidate who publicly apologised after saying he had the “worst tan possible for a black man” at a Black History Month event privately dismissed criticism as being “part of a smear campaign” against him.https://t.co/3Kyzm4v4Ah— Joe Pike (@joepike) May 28, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 22:19 (six months ago) link
Brit pol getting better.
Very emotional moving sign off from @IainDale who has just announced he is stepping back from LBC to try to get selected as a Tory MP.— Ayesha Hazarika (@ayeshahazarika) May 28, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 22:20 (six months ago) link
“part of a smear campaign”
okay yes i did leave the car windows open last night during the rain and i'm sorry, but frankly the criticism about it feels like a smear campaign on your part, honey
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 22:23 (six months ago) link
Sweet.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/may/29/junior-doctors-strike-england-june
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 12:24 (six months ago) link
for FUCK’S sake https://x.com/tomorrowsmps/status/1795832705265135975
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 17:35 (six months ago) link
🔴 POPLAR & LIMEHOUSE: It seems that sitting MP Apsana Begum may be subject to a renewed deselection attempt. https://t.co/PrzbQfa7Er— @Tomorrow'sMPs (@tomorrowsmps) May 29, 2024
Looks like her ex-husband is at it again. Why has a domestic abuser been allowed to carry on as a Labour member?
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 17:40 (six months ago) link
This 'left-wing' landlord has also been barred from standing
D:Ream - Things Can Only Get Better (1993) (Official Video) https://t.co/GX4196SX1f via @YouTube— Lloyd Russell-Moyle MP🌹🏳️🌈 (@lloyd_rm) May 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 17:47 (six months ago) link
how cruel and completely unnecessary 🤭
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 17:50 (six months ago) link
I'm sure some of you won't click on this because of where it is (and absolutely fair enough) but I keep thinking of this series of articles from conhome on how an unexpected election and overly-centralised campaign shafted the Tories in the 2017 elections. Given the source, they don't credit Corbyn at all, but it's a scene with some echoes - more on Labour than the Tories, this time?
“The whole candidate process was dreadful,” admits a senior Parliamentarian, and draws an unflattering comparison with the enthusiasm of the Corbynite grassroots: “It’s hard to avoid the conclusion that creating an actual mass movement in which people have some control has a potential benefit.” Ruefully, he adds that the modern Conservative Party is “almost a structure set up to discourage participation. It’s not something you can love anymore – it’s something you fear because it’s a totalitarian state.”
https://conservativehome.com/2017/09/05/our-cchq-election-audit-the-rusty-machine-part-one-why-the-operation-that-succeeded-in-2015-failed-in-2017/ https://conservativehome.com/2017/09/06/our-cchq-election-audit-the-rusty-machine-part-two-how-and-why-the-ground-campaign-failed/https://conservativehome.com/2017/09/07/our-cchq-election-audit-the-rusty-machine-part-three-what-can-be-done-to-fix-it/
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 30 May 2024 08:47 (six months ago) link
The Scottish National party has deleted an election video on TikTok after it emerged it featured a sexually-explicit song by American rap artist Big Boss Vette, which also uses the n-word.The track, Pretty Girls Walk, carries an explicit lyrics warning on streaming platforms and starts with the verse: “No matter what the fuck these hoes talkin’ ‘bout, just know you a bad bitch, every motherfucking time that you wake up, and you look in that motherfucking mirror”
The track, Pretty Girls Walk, carries an explicit lyrics warning on streaming platforms and starts with the verse: “No matter what the fuck these hoes talkin’ ‘bout, just know you a bad bitch, every motherfucking time that you wake up, and you look in that motherfucking mirror”
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 May 2024 13:06 (six months ago) link
I'm sure that's exactly what John Swinney does every morning.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 May 2024 13:07 (six months ago) link
BREAKING: Iain Dale tells LBC he has now abandoned his bid to become the Conservative candidate for Tunbridge Wells, after this clip of him telling listeners he 'never liked the place’ and ‘would happily live somewhere else’ was revealed https://t.co/vr3FnfeuX2— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) May 31, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 31 May 2024 10:01 (six months ago) link
lol 'all talk'
― nashwan, Friday, 31 May 2024 10:02 (six months ago) link
Excellent.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 31 May 2024 10:10 (six months ago) link
surely there are many residents of Tunbridge Wells who have never liked the place and would happily live somewhere else, they deserve a chance to vote for a candidate who shares their views
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Friday, 31 May 2024 10:39 (six months ago) link
It is a selfless piece of service, if you think about it, to represent a place you've never liked in the hope of making it better.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 31 May 2024 10:46 (six months ago) link
or worse!
― mark s, Friday, 31 May 2024 10:47 (six months ago) link
ppl should feel some kind of civic pride in what a loveless dreary shithole yr town or city is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 31 May 2024 10:55 (six months ago) link
Kent towns shittier than Tunbridge Wells, pt. 1:
AshfordMaidstoneTonbridgeDover
― oh the crime nowadays back in my day you could leave your door unlocke (Matt #2), Friday, 31 May 2024 10:57 (six months ago) link
move over John Redwood pretending to sing the Welsh national anthem and Peter Lilley adapting the Mikado, there's a new kid in town
Please God, make it stop... 😩"When it comes to football, the country shouldn’t just be worried about the Danes, Slovenians and the Serbs. They should be worried about Captain Flip-flop and his band of socialists. I think victory is in sight and we’ll bring it home." #newsnight pic.twitter.com/wwXW7i2zS2— paulusthewoodgnome 🇺🇦💙 (@woodgnomology) May 31, 2024
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Saturday, 1 June 2024 10:49 (six months ago) link
Obviously not the parts of the country which will be cheering on the Danes, Slovenians and Serbs.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Saturday, 1 June 2024 11:10 (six months ago) link
I presume D:Ream will be giving back all those royalties they’ve earned over the years thanks to the Labour Party? Or would that be too far?? https://t.co/CHCNG7I2EP— Rhys Goode (@rhys_goode) June 2, 2024
i can't stress enough how this one gesture from D:Ream has made up for years of having to hear their terrible record
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 June 2024 11:57 (six months ago) link
piss can only get boileder
― subpost master (wins), Sunday, 2 June 2024 12:00 (six months ago) link
Time to spice things up
Breaking:Nigel Farage is the new leader of Reform UK as Richard Tice formally stands asideFarage says it is 'the dullest most boring general election campaign we have ever seen in our lives' being fought by two near identikit leaders— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) June 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 June 2024 15:23 (six months ago) link
"dullest most boring" bleakest most disheartening general election campaign would be more accurate
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 June 2024 15:32 (six months ago) link
Stopped himself short of saying Richard Tice is the dullest, most boring party leader he'd ever seen.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2024 15:36 (six months ago) link
Standing in Clacton where Douglas Carswell won for UKIP in 2015 - Douglas Carswell who now lives in Mississippi!
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2024 15:43 (six months ago) link
Prominent anti Brexit campaigner and former Lib Dem donor Charlie Mullins seeks to be a candidate for Reform UK (2024) pic.twitter.com/J1b9QchJiN— insane moments in british politics (@PoliticsMoments) June 3, 2024
Charlie is back(in the country possibly - no confirmation yet if he's in his luxury Spanish Villa or the £10m riverside penthouse in London). But as a plumber he knows where there is shit, there is brass!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 June 2024 19:27 (six months ago) link
Well there's a vacancy in Black Lace if he fails.
― nashwan, Monday, 3 June 2024 21:24 (six months ago) link
Brilliant day canvassing in Trinity ward, Sutton Coldfield. A lot of young professionals are fed up with Tories nationally and Brum Labour for going bankrupt. And now just the one in #PlanetSuttonColdfield pub of the day The Four Oaks. pic.twitter.com/wObdqwAgdC— John Sweeney (@johnsweeneyroar) June 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 June 2024 21:34 (six months ago) link
oh ffs i didn't realise that was happening
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2024 21:38 (six months ago) link
Can you imagine how bad that hat smells
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Monday, 3 June 2024 21:45 (six months ago) link
Fuck washing John Sweeney's hat
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2024 21:47 (six months ago) link
barely standing John Sweeney
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 June 2024 22:01 (six months ago) link
Nobody can stand him.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2024 22:02 (six months ago) link
I wonder how likely the following scenario is: Farage wins in Clacton, Tories decimated to under 100 MPs, Farage switches sides and becomes Tory leader
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 00:23 (six months ago) link
it's plausible enough but it's also plausible that the conservative brand ends up so tainted that it's not really in his interests, and it's not like the press won't be happy to treat him as the opposition leader in that case
― ufo, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 01:01 (six months ago) link
I assume he has a good shot of winning in Clacton (though is his record a bit patchy when not running specifically on Brexit?), and as a strategy It seems plausible at least.
Is it in his interests or not? I'm not sure. The move has interesting timing, to say the least. If it did happen, he would swoop in as saviour, at least from his perspective. And the more damaged the conservative party and brand is, the more leeway that would give him to shape the party the way he wanted. Likelihood of something like this is difficult to measure, but I could see a potential path to it
― anvil, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 03:37 (six months ago) link
*begins typing bet3... into browser*
― imago, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 06:36 (six months ago) link
lol sorry
― imago, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 06:37 (six months ago) link
Starmer to promise to 'close the door' on Putin
https://i0.wp.com/skwawkbox.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/mandelson-putin.png?w=1370&ssl=1
he needs to 'close the door' on Mandelson first, lol
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 07:41 (six months ago) link
I reckon deselecting Putin was the right call actually
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 09:42 (six months ago) link
I agree, Farage absolutely will return as the saviour of the conservatives. There's no way the "conservative brand" will become too too tainted, it's the most successful political party in history, the English have a co-dependent relationship with it, it's the vampire which never dies and cannot be killed. It's just waiting for the right person/movement to resurrect it.
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 11:01 (six months ago) link
only just reading about all the kids in kosovo named tonibler after tony blair
― nxd, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 11:29 (six months ago) link
another word for 'bootlicker' eh
― imago, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 11:31 (six months ago) link
Mandelson is the Jeffrey Epstein of British politics and no I won't elaborate further
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 11:39 (six months ago) link
Can't see the Tories ever accepting Farage, I'm not convinced he'll win Clacton anyway. They'll either carry on down the far right route with Badenoch or Jenrick or some other ghoul or they'll completely shift to the centre.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 12:10 (six months ago) link
Apsana Begum confirmed as Labour candidate
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 12:16 (six months ago) link
xp famously he has never won a Parliamentary seat he has stood for, he's 0-7 on that score. Begs the question of why our friends in the media keep platforming him...
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 12:21 (six months ago) link
Beats talking to Keir Starmer.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 12:32 (six months ago) link
There would have to be a paradigm- shifting massacre for the Tories to accept Farage as a leader, I agree, but let's see ...
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 12:49 (six months ago) link
My older relatives are Tory or Tory-leaning and Farage is an uncrossable line for them. They'd vote for Mordaunt, though.
I am curious, though - what is Farage useful for, exactly, as a politician? He is bad disliked as an orator and personality, he has no consistent base, he has no reputation as a power broker or thinker or organiser, he can get "coverage" but it's usually largely negative - what do others who value the things he represents find him valuable for?
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:00 (six months ago) link
My main thought on Farage is "let's not give any oxygen to this cunt" but having seen a couple of media appearances over the last day I've noticed that they are actually questioning him on his hypocrisy this time and in return he's coming across like a furious foaming-at-the-mouth loon.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:02 (six months ago) link
I mean metaphorical oxygen but literal oxygen works too
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:03 (six months ago) link
thinking of these two clips
Farage has a meltdown on BBC News and then refused to go on NewsnightBen Thompson, "Call it a pressure group, call it a party, you were a candidate to be an MP on a ballot paper"Nigel Farage, "How many times have you stood?"BT, "I'm just asking"NF, "What do you know about… pic.twitter.com/HDa5KdCmEx— Farrukh (@implausibleblog) June 3, 2024
“I can take you to streets in Oldham where no one speaks English.”“Or they could speak two languages? Don't your own children speak another language?”Exchange with Nigel Farage on #r4today, Mr Farage asked how he knows people he hears speaking another language have no English👇🏾 pic.twitter.com/zL62EOTECb— Darshna Soni (@darshnasoni) June 4, 2024
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:07 (six months ago) link
He's winning rn in terms of headlines. Guess now we have to see his face every day for weeks. Can imagine him winning (and yeah ending up Tory/eventual PM have thought so for a while) but can't imagine him spending much time in the Commons or indeed in Clacton tho. Pretty funny in that it just seems like he was triggered into running from his own supporters questioning his loyalty or whatever (don't think it was that really but nor was it based on Trump being found guilty as that was on the cards for some time and he didn't have to mention Trump at all when explaining why he wasn't intending to run).
― nashwan, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:10 (six months ago) link
The more racist the talking points the livelier this election will be, with bigger ratings across TV and radio.
Everybosy wins.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:13 (six months ago) link
feel like they didn't challenge him on his obvious bullshit like this so much before― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:07
Well yeah, he's no longer a useful foil/brake against a left wing labour party
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:15 (six months ago) link
Theresa May did 'they don't even speak our language' in 2016 get some new material
― nashwan, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:16 (six months ago) link
Farage is looking kind of ratty and rundown to me these days and I think he's trying to introduce a more belligerent MAGA style, less chummy fellow at the golf club, approach and that's not going to go down well.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:24 (six months ago) link
I mean there are prominent members of the Tory Party who are arguably more right wing than he is so he is having to outflank them.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:26 (six months ago) link
My older relatives are Tory or Tory-leaning and Farage is an uncrossable line for them. They'd vote for Mordaunt, though. I am curious, though - what is Farage useful for, exactly, as a politician? He is bad disliked as an orator and personality, he has no consistent base, he has no reputation as a power broker or thinker or organiser, he can get "coverage" but it's usually largely negative - what do others who value the things he represents find him valuable for?
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:52 (six months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPO9v12W8AA5hJH?format=jpg&name=medium
lool, he has been milkshaked in Clacton!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:07 (six months ago) link
National Service required for her...as UK PM
― nashwan, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:11 (six months ago) link
the really zoomed out one where you can see her do it and then walk off also has a lot of charm
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:16 (six months ago) link
Farage-milkshaking hun is the drunk “Tommy Robinson? He’s a cunt x” of this election
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:22 (six months ago) link
looking forward to some very furrowed brows telling me this was an unhelpful thing to do
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:24 (six months ago) link
we regret to inform you that milkshake Nigel is racist
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:25 (six months ago) link
oh so u support political violence do u
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:26 (six months ago) link
(well, yeah)
ah this is glorious. perfect aim, right in the face, the follow up with the cup and the nonchalant walk off - tens across the board https://t.co/ExOfE2U4Ao— she/hererzade (@tubbsOreally) June 4, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:27 (six months ago) link
AND THE CUP
🙏
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:30 (six months ago) link
iconic photo
*Mwah* https://t.co/uGsWbanlYy pic.twitter.com/6B5hrvEWpd— Michael Walsh (@thatbloodyMikey) June 4, 2024
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:33 (six months ago) link
if we're replaying the greatest hits of farage's previous public humiliations in this election cycle i hope there's a small plane ride on his travel itinerary soon
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:33 (six months ago) link
There's going to be some fun cognitive dissonance in the debate tonight.
"I think it's unacceptable for MPs' safety to be threatened in this way, and we will have to crack down on this aggressive behavior""No, I think banning arms sales to Israel is the wrong decision""I am prepared, at any moment and without much thought, to begin the process of ending all life on earth"
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:52 (six months ago) link
you mean uk media?
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:59 (six months ago) link
it's tonight on bbc and itv, isn't it? not that'll be watching
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:04 (six months ago) link
Perfect, very entertaining
Just Nigel Farage getting a beer chucked at him pic.twitter.com/txnioRDyrD— RobGoff (@robertagoffin) June 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:09 (six months ago) link
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:qjzrpzlcmir3bkss4b5nh6ox/bafkreie2gfweuyfamtpmnvt6m3gnnvww62yshlkvr2xskcyr745aaeyfcu@jpeg
👑
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:10 (six months ago) link
Makes me proud to be British.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:10 (six months ago) link
ah milkshaking. a British tradition I can feel proud of
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:19 (six months ago) link
Don't think there's a party leader in this election you wouldn't be happy to see receive the same treatment
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:22 (six months ago) link
get Luke Akehurst next
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:27 (six months ago) link
lactose the intolerant
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:27 (six months ago) link
That lady who shouts "That wasn't from any of us" or whatever. Like a kid at school who's worried the teacher's going to tell her off
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:37 (six months ago) link
such poise!
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:41 (six months ago) link
Disgraceful assault on Nigel Farage today. Completely unacceptable and wrong. No one should face intimidation or assault in an election campaign. Thank you to the police for responding.— Yvette Cooper (@YvetteCooperMP) June 4, 2024
I believe the only appropriate response to this shit would be to milkshake Yvette Cooper next
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 16:59 (six months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/4KABQ1R.png
― mark s, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 17:08 (six months ago) link
LOL @ Starmer making a dog's dinner of the leader's debate.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 21:38 (six months ago) link
it's almost like there can't be a fucking winner when both of the dire cunts are racing to the bottom, but apparently Sunak edged it by 1% in a YouGov flash poll
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 22:15 (six months ago) link
(though is his record a bit patchy when not running specifically on Brexit?)
As Neil S pointed out, his record is the opposite of patchy!
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 22:28 (six months ago) link
Also it's not a beer unless they serve beers in Clacton with cup lids and straws, 100% a beautiful moment though.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 07:46 (six months ago) link
Banana milkshake. Perfect.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 08:13 (six months ago) link
There’s a meme going around where the arc of the flying shake matches a Fibonacci curve; this is a thing of beauty.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 08:16 (six months ago) link
it even reached this thread!
― imago, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 08:28 (six months ago) link
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 June 2024
Worth noting how no one here even bothered with the debate.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 08:59 (six months ago) link
i read a bit of reaction afterwards and apparently they were both extremely dull, who knew eh
― imago, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 09:01 (six months ago) link
i wouldn't watch a debate if there were well-intentioned human beings with policies intended to effect genuine change on it, so why the hell would anybody subject themselves to Rishi/Kieth unless they've got a serious masochism kink/more worm than brain?
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 09:26 (six months ago) link
I saw some of the aftermath with a drunk Johnny Mercer having a pretend argument with Wes Streeting and then the two stumbling off like bosom buddies.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 09:30 (six months ago) link
I dunno, did 20% of schools in the old Eastern Bloc also double up as emergency food banks to deal with mass child hunger or does this only happen in superior economic and political systems such as the UK's? pic.twitter.com/BcRHpeMjMi— Mr Demos of Pnyx (@gem_ste) June 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 09:47 (six months ago) link
The Is He Real Or Is He A Parody legend that is Mike Tapp named as one of Labour's "rising stars". God help us all.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/05/rising-stars-who-could-play-a-big-part-in-a-labour-government
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 10:13 (six months ago) link
I tried watching the debate but had to turn it off after about 10 minutes; it was so unbearable that I literally couldn’t look at the screen.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 10:36 (six months ago) link
I put it on accidentally and had much the same reaction.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 10:44 (six months ago) link
Good for her.
The Daily Heil accidentally making her even more iconic. pic.twitter.com/dnGC21EFI1— Jack D 🏳️🌈 (@JackDunc1) June 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 12:36 (six months ago) link
i thought Tories loved young entrepreneurs
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 12:46 (six months ago) link
well she's hardly going to be a Starmer supporter, he'd have her prosecuted for common assault faster than you can say Jimmy Sav....
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 13:09 (six months ago) link
Solemnly, regrettably providing +33 pics out of pure public-spirited service.
Vote of no confidence in Welsh First Minister Vaughan Gething today,; turns out he's a massively corrupt liar. Shocking for a Starmer acolyte.
This reddit post helpfully illuminates all the issues:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Labour/comments/1d84e2r/welsh_first_minister_vaughan_gething_premiership/
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 15:13 (six months ago) link
IDS should win the seat again.
It’s official @faizashaheen will run as an Independent Parliamentary Candidate for Chingford and Woodford Green.We send solidarity from Newham.Please support her campaign and let’s help her to deliver a victory for the many! ✊🏽 pic.twitter.com/5p7MwIcoX8— Newham Independents 💛 (@NewhamIndParty) June 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 15:53 (six months ago) link
Good work Labour Party!
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 15:56 (six months ago) link
Labour outrage about Tories lying about Labour policy is some real "Windmills of Your Mind" shit
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 17:19 (six months ago) link
Hope Jenrick loses seat and everything elsehttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jun/05/siyabonga-twala-stranded-in-turkey-can-return-to-uk-home-office-u-turn
― nashwan, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 18:04 (six months ago) link
Keir Starmer claimed tonight that GB Energy would generate energy, just days after confirming it wouldn't generate any energy because it was just an investment vehicle. This is getting ridiculous. We don't appear to have any reporters willing to call this out. What is going on?… pic.twitter.com/UbMaRDWj4K— MSM Monitor (@msm_monitor) June 4, 2024
it's outrageous that the Tory leader lied about a Labour policy, that's f-cking Kieth's job
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 18:06 (six months ago) link
Since announcing his campaign ten days ago, Lib Dem candidate for Sutton Coldfield John Sweeney—who earns £3,000 a month on Patreon for his on-the-ground coverage of the Ukrainian War from his gorgeous Victorian townhouse—has posted eight photos of him having Just The One® Drink. pic.twitter.com/DgNCplfJL7— Eyup Lovely (@eyuplovely) June 6, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 June 2024 16:45 (six months ago) link
Booze shaming is bad yo
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 June 2024 16:48 (six months ago) link
To me its amazing how the guy is finding so much joy from this election.
Guess you would if you made 3k from 'work'.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 June 2024 16:53 (six months ago) link
if stays in the pub getting shitfaced rather than doorstep campaigning, then he is improving the lives of many people in Sutton Coldfield
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:00 (six months ago) link
On the Local Housing Allowance.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/05/14-years-tory-housing-benefit-homelessness-poor-cities
"The option is there for Labour to take a different route. Simply reverting to the pre-2010 position and linking LHA to the 50th percentile again would ease a lot of pain overnight. But this means committing to spend more on benefits – something the party seems currently completely unwilling to do.
Longer term, a package of rent control for the private sector and a rapid increase of social housing, via acquisition and new building, would break the cycle of rising rents and rising benefits. Whether Labour has the political will and the guts to do this remains to be seen."
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:07 (six months ago) link
Eighty years ago today, the sun rose on a new day of hope after the dark storm of the Second World War.
Kieth's D-Day post, his attempt at jingoistic solemnity is so fucking hamfisted and clueless. ppl are replying it happened during WW2, the daft cunt thinks that was the end of the war, lol.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:19 (six months ago) link
Yes, it's OK, nobody else died at Arnhem, Remagen, Battle of the Bulge etc etc.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:26 (six months ago) link
a new day of hope in Hiroshima
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:28 (six months ago) link
I want to see Sir Antony Beevor saying "omg where do they get these cunts from these days?"
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:30 (six months ago) link
wow he is even shit at being the stereotype patriot he aspires to portray himself as, wtf is he good at?
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:33 (six months ago) link
Bullying women.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:44 (six months ago) link
broke: labour leaders dancing a jig at the cenotaphwoke: labour leaders blithely displaying total ignorance of historical events
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 June 2024 18:14 (six months ago) link
I was watching an old vid clip of Denis Healey singing The Ballad of the D-Day Dodgers and talking shit about his part in the Italian campaign. He was a cunt as well, but at least he wasn't as dumb as Kieth is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 18:17 (six months ago) link
the longer i live the more Healey looks like a towering paragon of integrity and socialism even tho you're right calz
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 June 2024 18:43 (six months ago) link
woke: the old Labour Right
broke: a bunch of corrupt, cretinous racist morons
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 18:48 (six months ago) link
was listening to old interviews with the likes of Hattersley and Healey t'other day and was thinking these lads would get deselected by Kieth in no time for occasionally being funny and almost seeming like human beings in their more forthright moments
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 18:56 (six months ago) link
it's one of the most telling things about what a cesspit the Party is now when you think about the values that even those old Labour Right lags took for granted
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 June 2024 18:58 (six months ago) link
I always say I'm not left wing it's just that the Labour Party became right wing.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 June 2024 19:42 (six months ago) link
Hearing that (some not all) political journalists are choosing not to pursue stories on Labour because they are expecting a massive majority, and so don’t want to burn bridges with prospective contacts in government. Hanging onto the coattails of power rather than challenging it!— Matt Zarb-Cousin (@mattzarb) June 6, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 June 2024 22:06 (six months ago) link
Utter, mendacious, barely-disguised contempt for their own voters
The Green Party would introduce a wealth tax of 1% on all assets over £10m increasing to 2% on assets above £1bnShabana Mahmood says that ordinary working people would end up paying part of it. How many ordinary working people does Mahmood know with assets of over £10 million? pic.twitter.com/yfjXpocfJw— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) June 6, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 6 June 2024 22:23 (six months ago) link
what a load of old pish this D day story is
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 7 June 2024 12:06 (six months ago) link
it's optics, and as far as the media is concerned, optics is everything, especially now they are willing to use them to get the boot in.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 June 2024 12:14 (six months ago) link
RISHI DISRESPECTED ARE BRAVE BOYS, 'ANGING'S TOO GOOD FOR THE BLEEDIN' ROTTER
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 June 2024 12:21 (six months ago) link
(ps please remember to vote for sir kier starmer on july 4 to ensure a more competent right-wing government can be installed to further the interests of deeply-entrenched power in the uk kthxbye)
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 June 2024 12:22 (six months ago) link
"Not fit to be Prime Minister" roar the Lib Dems!
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 7 June 2024 12:36 (six months ago) link
I'm losing the will to live here.
Convenient dead D-Day cat given the Frank Hester revelations (not that there's anything very revelatory about them)
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:51 (six months ago) link
I'm still waiting for some distinguished historian to attack Kieth for his botched and thick as fuck D-Day post, but I guess you need to be a genuine hater to gaf about how shit his posting is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:01 (six months ago) link
the video of Ed Davey doing his morning care routine with his autistic son seems to me - I hate to fucking say it - genuinely relatable and not done in a tacky exploitative way. But then I think: you fucking cunt, you know first hand how vital social care is and how much worse it has got after 14 years of austerity. And you were part of a regime that cut or completely stripped away benefits and disabled services for people like your son. I have this duality of having a modicum of respect for him because he seems like a good parent/carer who has a lot on. And also, fuck him - I hope he dies a very painful death, the fucking Tory piece of shit!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:02 (six months ago) link
anyone else hear a really high-pitched noise, almost like a whistling or something, when anna soubry is speaking here
Anna Soubry says Rishi Sunak doesn't understand what D-Day means to British people pic.twitter.com/b7ITQtMpB1— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) June 7, 2024
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:36 (six months ago) link
“At the time of writing, and following Sunak’s self-inflicted D-Day gaffe, every single digital ad on the [Tories’] main pages has been switched off. Currently, the campaign has no active ads on Facebook, Instagram, Google or YouTube.” https://t.co/kkm4YyKJaY— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) June 7, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 June 2024 14:54 (six months ago) link
Ha ha, Keith Vaz, Claudia Webbe and the official Labour candidate all standing in Leicester East. Tory gain?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/07/disgraced-keith-vaz-kicked-out-of-labour-as-he-stands-for-one-leicester-party
― Alba, Friday, 7 June 2024 14:56 (six months ago) link
This seems effective:
Latest #LabourParty #election advert has arrived. It's fast work, a quick-grab message, and potentially very high impact. pic.twitter.com/mJdGDB2Cah— Dr. Max (@DrMaxPolitics) June 7, 2024
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 7 June 2024 15:30 (six months ago) link
Jolly japes
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 7 June 2024 15:31 (six months ago) link
if Kieth would have been pm and stuck around to bloviate with Macron and Biden, a load of the usual tedious ahistorical bollox about defending democracy and some hackneyed Churchill misquote or whatever. Then that would make him a better person? Weird fucking country with a completely warped and delusional mindset.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPeTmveX0AAKVdB?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 June 2024 15:52 (six months ago) link
Kiwi diaspora having their say there. Respect to the honest respondents on 21% at the foot of the chart.
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Friday, 7 June 2024 15:55 (six months ago) link
IT'S THE BELGIANS WOT WON IT
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:00 (six months ago) link
Amazing that we can have 24/7 WWII programmes on TV and yet
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:01 (six months ago) link
they need to teach operation bagration in UK schools (or to future pm simpletons like kieth), to help dispel false historical narratives. It was uncle joseph who smashed army group center and finished off the nazis as a serious fighting force ffs.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:05 (six months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbdIRfXSaBA
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:08 (six months ago) link
who's watching this debate and how are the lib dems already the most viscerally repellant out of all these oily freaks?
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 7 June 2024 18:48 (six months ago) link
Turned on and two seconds of Stephen Flynn's Dundonian accent was enough for me.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 7 June 2024 18:55 (six months ago) link
Ok phew, nigel's already reclaimed his crown without even missing a beat
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 7 June 2024 19:06 (six months ago) link
Just had to pop out for 5 minutes there for some milk, long enough to notice seven Vote Corybn posters in shop windows. Of course, it's not this part of the constituency he needs to worry about.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 June 2024 13:02 (six months ago) link
there was another all-white Islington pic posted by the anti-Corbyn Labour candidate yesterday (including Neil Kinnock,lol). If not for the London style townhouses in the background you could be forgiven for mistaking him as the Labour candidate for [whatever hellish N Yorkshire gammon zone shithole] rather than in ethnically diverse London.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 9 June 2024 14:49 (six months ago) link
Love how things like this won't consider that Lab could fuck up badly once in power.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/08/from-humiliation-to-annihilation-could-this-election-mean-the-end-of-the-tory-party-as-we-know-it
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2024 14:58 (six months ago) link
there's a Youtube advert for Scottish Labour I keep getting and they're definitely doing something with the lighting on Anas Sarwar
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 9 June 2024 15:30 (six months ago) link
Their rescue is a glimmer of hope in the darkness.
this is the expression Lammy used to describe a massacre committed by IDF soldiers who arrived on the murder scene in a humanitarian aid vehicle. I've always detested the prick and since he became foreign sec in waiting he's got so much exponentially worse. What a fucking evil cunt.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 9 June 2024 17:46 (six months ago) link
"He’s no keener on dreamy leftwing utopianism than empty rightwing boosterism, taking issue with both the campaign for a universal basic income (UBI) and the anti-capitalist writer David Graeber’s popular “bullshit jobs” thesis, which argued that too many jobs in the modern economy are pointless, paper-shuffling make-work designed to keep the masses distracted. (UBI is too expensive if it’s generous enough to ensure nobody now on benefits loses out, he argues, but positively damaging otherwise; meanwhile, research shows a cheering number of Britons find their work meaningful or socially useful.)"
https://www.theguardian.com/books/article/2024/jun/10/great-britain-how-we-get-our-future-back-by-torsten-bell-review-a-roadmap-to-the-new-normal
This is the kind of wanker who is going to hopefully be stopped from making policy when the world burns.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 June 2024 09:06 (six months ago) link
“radical incrementalism”
there is no such a thing, but I guess it works as bullshit political jargon for people who believe in nothing.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 10 June 2024 09:58 (six months ago) link
These people are so going to be overtaken by events.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 June 2024 10:05 (six months ago) link
funny how many people free from the grind of employment are such big fans of the healing power of employment
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 June 2024 10:51 (six months ago) link
..our low productivity, chronic wage stagnation and American-style high inequality (but sadly without the higher growth of the US)
just need Reeves to press the magic economic growth button that didn't work for Truss, then the high inequality wont be so sad for the Graun writer.
An ex-Miliband adviser being feted as a big-brain economic whizz. Even more worse than it used to be.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 10 June 2024 13:23 (six months ago) link
these lads all seem to think they just need to find the sweet spot where capitalism works for everybody when the evidence of the last 40 years of growing inequality and accelerating environmental disaster is right in front of their eyes
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 June 2024 13:39 (six months ago) link
only if you choose to look! it's much more fun and more lucrative to squint right past it
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 June 2024 13:42 (six months ago) link
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 June 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Who are we to argue with a random poll. Work makes us cheerful!
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 June 2024 13:57 (six months ago) link
Probably not a coincidence that this guy was advising labour when their vote really bottomed out, in 2010 and 2015
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 10 June 2024 14:18 (six months ago) link
a total loser from the brains trust that commissioned the Ed Stone has got some things to say about Graeber, has he?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 10 June 2024 14:40 (six months ago) link
^ uses more words, but somehow pithier
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 10 June 2024 14:58 (six months ago) link
luke the nuke’s promo video is some laugh
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Monday, 10 June 2024 15:20 (six months ago) link
lol it's getting brutally ratio-ed
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 10 June 2024 17:44 (six months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPt9OApXUAAW53n?format=jpg&name=medium
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 10 June 2024 17:51 (six months ago) link
people clowning on him for looking like absolute refried dog diarrhoea but this might actually be the most put-together i’ve ever seen him look tbh
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 June 2024 18:07 (six months ago) link
Maybe it was best not to attempt any bits where Luke is trying to converse with the humans he is appealing to for votes.
I just saw a vid of Starmer strangely guffawing at a young girl who was talking about living with heating poverty (having to wrap in multiple blankets at home) and his dismissive one-way conversation reply was that his 15 yr old son still loves his onesie. He's far weirder (and more sociopathic) than the Maybot of '17 when she awkwardly faced the public.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 10 June 2024 18:22 (six months ago) link
very telling that these absolute sociopaths are out there revealing their awfulness in public and the media response is just a huge shrug
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 June 2024 18:47 (six months ago) link
How shameless is this worm.
BREAKING: Keir Starmer accuses Tories of "Corbyn-style manifesto"The Conservative Party is to launch its manifesto at 11.30amLatest: https://t.co/aj0cjpNqAp📺 Sky 501, Virgin 602, Freeview 233 and YouTube pic.twitter.com/Gezma89zz4— Sky News (@SkyNews) June 11, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 11:09 (six months ago) link
spineless dog dirt of a man
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 11:26 (six months ago) link
Laying himself open to people pointing out how both 2017 and 2019 were fully costed. Let's hope some brave, heroic reporter/anchor steps up on this
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 11:34 (six months ago) link
he should be nervous about mentioning Corbyn, because that opens him up to: well you were in his shadow cabinet and campaigned for him. But it doesn't matter, he's got it in easy mode and the outcome of the GE has already been decided.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 11:52 (six months ago) link
What an utterly despicable cunt.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 11:53 (six months ago) link
Looks like Les off Vic Reeves having a leek waved at himhttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/11/nigel-farage-barnsley-objects-thrown-man-arrested
― Alba, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 12:30 (six months ago) link
Looks like Les from Vic Reeves having a leek waved at himhttps://i.imgur.com/f8G0ge8.jpeghttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/11/nigel-farage-barnsley-objects-thrown-man-arrested
― Alba, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 12:32 (six months ago) link
apols for guardian but good riddance:
Robin Harper | The first ever Green parliamentarian in the UK, Harper has crossed the floor (sideways?) to join the Labour party, saying they are the only ones with a serious prospect of fighting climate change. The move will be much less contentious than Conservative defections, some of which have dismayed Labour members. It’s unlikely to cause too much distress in the Scottish Green party, which Harper left last year, disagreeing with its support for trans rights.
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 17:37 (six months ago) link
Labour welcoming transphobes, surely not?
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 18:21 (six months ago) link
Great news from EC. He really has changed. https://t.co/r3OLyEu9Vv— Tariq Ali (@TariqAli_News) June 11, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 07:18 (six months ago) link
Ooft, neither of those racist fossils is someone you want in your corner
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 07:30 (six months ago) link
Sometimes I really feel the British state and that class of people could be so easily burnt to the ground.
‘There’ll be all sorts of things that I would have wanted as a kid that I couldn’t have - famously Sky TV'@RishiSunak reveals the sacrifices his parents were forced to make when he was youngWatch full interview on the Tonight programme on ITV at 7pmhttps://t.co/WN3WqEFirH pic.twitter.com/6XNLBJdMM8— ITV News (@itvnews) June 11, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 08:08 (six months ago) link
They were forced to send him to one of the most expensive schools in the UK.
― ILX: a violent left-wing mob who hate our country (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 08:13 (six months ago) link
3 more weeks of this shit
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 08:20 (six months ago) link
Sky dishes would be considered infra dig in the circles his parents wanted him to inhabit.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 08:34 (six months ago) link
Just think he couldn't watch Sky TV in any of the six bedrooms in the family home, oh the humanity!
― ILX: a violent left-wing mob who hate our country (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 08:39 (six months ago) link
still more honest than when Kieth does his phoney maloney routine about his dad walking the factory floor, without mentioning that he owned the business. lol, the proper way to do it would be to say: we had a vintage b+w tv and no tv license, my mum would shut the curtains, tell us to hush and ignore the door when the tv license people came knocking.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 10:45 (six months ago) link
Remembering the early ‘90s time a friend and I saw a TV Licensing van in the street on our way to work, loudly mocked it, only to be rounded on by a young woman who shouted: “vat’s ma bawfriend, how dare you, I hope you get done!”
My friend looked her up and down, then said “you’d never get fucked otherwise, I guess?”
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 11:02 (six months ago) link
Well of course he didn't have SkyTV growing up, he was twenty seven when it was launched. https://t.co/yAlAaLXOV4— Dr Charlotte Lydia Riley (@lottelydia) June 12, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 11:28 (six months ago) link
if Corbyn had done this, the UK media would be going through his entire childhood history with a magnifying glass and calling him out as a lying fucker. I can't even remember Blair having it this easy.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 11:55 (six months ago) link
Sky in the 90s was cheaper than Netflix now. And when there was a shit video on MTV we got on our bikes and we bricked Keir's windows.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 12:21 (six months ago) link
Sir Window Smasher
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 12:50 (six months ago) link
The deepfakes are getting good fellas.
'My dad was a toolmaker'*Audience laughs* pic.twitter.com/1EME2W2C0u— j (@jrc1921) June 12, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 19:13 (six months ago) link
Kieth was actually not floundering in his appearance on this Sky bullshit - he's not really answering any of the more pertinent questions either. But yeah, the only enjoyable part was the spontaneous jeering audience laughter during his "my dad was a toolmaker" bit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 19:20 (six months ago) link
great photo of rishi making an impression at the g7 summit in today's grauniad
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/48fd7e8a87ad9a4b1ff646ffb54ce7377210fba2/0_82_4238_2543/master/4238.jpg?width=1900&dpr=2&s=none
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 13 June 2024 09:50 (six months ago) link
The stuff that isn't happening.
Manifesto of @TheGreenParty in summary: #RealHopeRealChange https://t.co/vBH2hnRfj3 pic.twitter.com/XTaZgPVttz— Natalie Bennett (@natalieben) June 12, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 June 2024 11:00 (six months ago) link
Well I guess all the melts that said we shouldn't judge Labour until we'd seen the manifesto will be ok with us judging them now
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 June 2024 11:47 (six months ago) link
The hard questions are being asked:
Q: [From the Guardian’s Pippa Crerar] Sunak has struggled to lead a government of integrity. Will you do any better?
Yes, says Starmer. He is determined to do better. He will get on with changing ethical codes from day one.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 June 2024 11:55 (six months ago) link
most normal deputy leader of a uk political party
Deputy Green Party Leader admits to performing hypnotherapy to 'enlarge' women's breasts in the past https://t.co/BSf4vyqU0z— LBC (@LBC) June 12, 2024
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 13 June 2024 12:21 (six months ago) link
Is it in the manifesto though?
― ILX: a violent left-wing mob who hate our country (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 June 2024 12:23 (six months ago) link
It's so obvious that the media is soft pedalling on Starmer and Labour because they know they'll get a whopping majority and thus be secure enough to not to have to rely on any of the usual chummy "you scratch my back" garbage. A powerful government can make things tough for the media.
― ILX: a violent left-wing mob who hate our country (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 June 2024 12:27 (six months ago) link
I like think Starmer was channelling Jurassic 5 here. "Let's take it back to the concrete streets,Original beats with real live MCs,Playground tactics,No rabbit in a hat tricks ..." https://t.co/L1Eh2qcKi7— Rafael Behr (@rafaelbehr) June 13, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 June 2024 13:13 (six months ago) link
🔴 Oh dear, it seems some of these retiring Labour MPs who had peerages dangled in front of them to encourage give up their seats, didn't know that in its manifesto Labour was about to impose a new age limit for members of the Lords, of 80 at the end of each Parliament.— @Tomorrow'sMPs (@tomorrowsmps) June 13, 2024
oh dear, a major blow for some people's dreams of joining the job 4 life superannuated corpse set. Can't believe Kieth has lied to people again.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 13 June 2024 13:49 (six months ago) link
Love this when they will have to nationalize the water industry and put up flood defences.
The shift from Labour under Corbyn to Labour under Starmer in a single chart👇The bars here show you how much each manifesto - 2017 and 2019 under Corbyn, 2024 under Starmer - pledged in new spending, taxes & investment.It’s night and day… pic.twitter.com/KHuk4EAgPD— Ed Conway (@EdConwaySky) June 13, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 June 2024 13:57 (six months ago) link
basically austerity
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 13 June 2024 14:36 (six months ago) link
Got to wait till you turn 80 to get in the House of Lords eh
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 13 June 2024 14:43 (six months ago) link
i need Rafa Behr's address so i can send him the bill for the costly surgery i need to uncurl my toes
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 June 2024 16:14 (six months ago) link
Carla Denyer has become the Corbyn proxy in these useless fucking debates and I guess at least she makes Labour look as fucking awful as they are.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 13 June 2024 20:35 (six months ago) link
Farage, emboldened by Reform being ahead of the tories in the latest yougov poll, says we need to build a new home every two minutes to deal with this mass influx of unchecked migration.
"I was on free school meals" "my father was a toolmaker" the Angela and Kieth handbook of irrelevant speak when difficult questions are asked
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 13 June 2024 20:44 (six months ago) link
we need to build a new home every two minutes
he has this talent of mixing in incontrovertible truths with his toxic hatred, it's like a special gift
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 13 June 2024 21:10 (six months ago) link
a new home every 2 minutes and things like the 2 billion trees from the last election always sounds faintly ridiculous until you remember there are 60 million people in the country capable of working in parallel.
no trees arms race this election that I've seen, i kind of miss it.
― koogs, Friday, 14 June 2024 03:27 (six months ago) link
Seen the video and I'm amazed this meeting wasn't a cold handshake, at most, for the cameras.
Doesn't Sunak know she's a racist?
He’s an uptight investment banker; she’s a kooky free spirit who wants to send migrants to camps in Albania This summer, Paramount Pictures proudly presents: pic.twitter.com/iOmQTWozem— Peter Wolf (@peterawolf) June 13, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 June 2024 16:59 (six months ago) link
Reform party pol broadcast. Weird. Basically one freeze frame with a slogan for 5 mins.
― Mark G, Friday, 14 June 2024 17:16 (six months ago) link
That was on one of the TVs in the pub and for a couple of minutes I thought tonight's ABBA tribute act had the weirdest stage show ever
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2024 18:09 (six months ago) link
Omigod this Abba band are better than the entire history of the Labour Party I take everything back
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2024 20:26 (six months ago) link
Baby Reindeer’s “real-life Martha” reportedly sent Sir Keir Starmer nearly 300 abusive emails while living in his constituency.Fiona Harvey allegedly sent the Labour leader abusive messages over an eight-month period which described him as a “stupid little boy” and used a disabled slur to insult his wife, according to The Sun.
Fiona Harvey allegedly sent the Labour leader abusive messages over an eight-month period which described him as a “stupid little boy” and used a disabled slur to insult his wife, according to The Sun.
Til that Kieth achieved accidental pop culture relevance by receiving 276 abusive e-mails from Fiona Harvey
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 07:45 (six months ago) link
Reform and Tories neck and neck. Farage extracts maximum concessions from Tories, Reform stand down to allow them a clear run, Kieth fails to win an overall majority, hilarity ensues.
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 08:26 (six months ago) link
It’s too late to be removed from the ballot paper now I believe?
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 09:29 (six months ago) link
As good as the banter would be.
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 10:17 (six months ago) link
the polling in Clacton is tight, but it seems the best way of keeping Farage out would be a tactical vote for the Tory candidate!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 10:28 (six months ago) link
Looking forward to tonight’s climate hustings in Islington North.We owe it to those we seek to represent to defend our views. That is what democracy is all about.I am not afraid of discussion. Why is the Labour candidate? pic.twitter.com/1GbFny5IC9— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) June 18, 2024
Jez is getting salty
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 10:42 (six months ago) link
there's a twist at the end of this story. https://t.co/GTq5WNYM4Y— bat020 (@bat020) June 18, 2024
lol, one of the Galloway party candidates, an old scouse git from Southport, claims he would have been on the Titan submersible's final voyage if (really important detail here) he could have afforded the 250k fee.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 14:33 (six months ago) link
Nigel Farage is on track to overturn a huge Tory majority to win in Clacton while Jeremy Corbyn, standing as an independent, is predicted to lose to Labour in Islington North.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/18/labour-landslide-projected-tory-seats-conservatives-general-election
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:08 (six months ago) link
Damn it to hell.
the Clacton polling I saw had Labour/Reform/Tories all around 30%. Can't believe the Graun is relishing the prospect of Corbyn losing.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:19 (six months ago) link
Corbyn, the former Labour leader who lost the party whip, is predicted to lose to Labour, which would pick up 54% of the vote in Islington North, while all independent candidates combined get just 13%.
lolwut
sounds like bs
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:24 (six months ago) link
a lot of bs here
"The Greens are making headway in Bristol Central, where they are challenging Labour’s Thangam Debbonaire"
the polling had them 13 pts ahead a few weeks back and they've just recently won a shitload of council seats, Thangham is toast.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:28 (six months ago) link
Yeah I am prepared for Corbyn to lose because everything is awful at all times and only likely to get worse but less than 13%, that just doesn't scan.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:52 (six months ago) link
That has to be a classic Grauniad misprint.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:58 (six months ago) link
it would be funny if it turned out the polling data was madly skewed by ppl forgetting he's an independent and meaning Labour as Corbyn.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:59 (six months ago) link
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:59 (six months ago) link
Faiza Shaheen has got the Rocket Ron endorsement
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 18:10 (six months ago) link
No real way to know of course but this seems highly unlikely and possibly even a case of motivated reasoning, if not the more obvious case of a misprint
― anvil, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 18:13 (six months ago) link
I think there could be shy Corbyn voters amongst the posh white liberal melts of Islington N, the other guy is such an odious little shit - I feel like there might be buyer's regret concerns that will haunt ppl in the voting booth.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 18:23 (six months ago) link
It's not clear if they actually interviewed lots of people in Corbyn's constituency or if that's just their forecast for his constituency based on the numbers they've got generally. I still haven't seen any polling for Chingford.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 21:11 (six months ago) link
Channel 4We apologise about our previous post misleading people to click on a link to register to vote in the upcoming election. Our full apology can be found here: https://bit.ly/45r5wCd
― Mark G, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 11:11 (six months ago) link
I mean, it's a bit late now, but...
AVR would solve a lot of problems
https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/latest-news-and-research/parliamentary-briefings/automatic-voter-registration-avr-briefing/
― Grandpont Genie, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 11:33 (six months ago) link
just watched the Ash Sakar interview with the bald, pickled Labour-Brain aka Mick Lynch and am really starting to dislike this guy. Nobody should vote Labour if the party is likely to inflict harmful policies on them, the only leverage people have is their vote. He's more similar to Mandelson than he realises imo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 13:00 (six months ago) link
having a privatised NHS and thousands of disabled + sick people made destitute might not be so bad if Mick can win some weak as piss concessions for his union members
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 13:05 (six months ago) link
Saw this on TV last night, they have 122 candidates standing in the election! But this is still apparently the best they can do (check for a very special celeb appearance three minutes in)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcvd2AodoSg
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 15:17 (six months ago) link
voters canvassing the political parties on their doorsteps and being impolitely told to fuck off by them is a very odd concept
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 15:46 (six months ago) link
I will admit I laughed at the LibDems bit.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 16:01 (six months ago) link
"just watched the Ash Sakar interview with the bald, pickled Labour-Brain aka Mick Lynch and am really starting to dislike this guy."
Guy has always been Labour. Solid entertainer in the way he deals with the press but there was a point ppl (or twitter posters) wanted him to try and lead some kind of breakaway movement.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 16:07 (six months ago) link
Trade Unionism is more often than not like Labourism, an inability and lack of desire to look beyond the game as it is currently played, however rotten that game is
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 16:39 (six months ago) link
SDP have basically been cryptofash for ages i thought
Their candidate for the London Mayor was all anti-wokeism - but then so were most of the others.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 16:44 (six months ago) link
yeah that's a standard shadow cabinet stance now
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 16:45 (six months ago) link
tbf Labour are not-at-all-crypto fash now
Saw this on TV last night, they have 122 candidates standing in the election! But this is still apparently the best they can do (check for a very special celeb appearance three minutes in)📹
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:04 (six months ago) link
if we could find a way to harness melts handwringing about Just Stop Oil we'd be carbon neutral in a week
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:16 (six months ago) link
Between JSO and Fossil Free Books, the melts are en fuego this week.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:29 (six months ago) link
Agreed the sdp video is the best thing I've ever seen. Best bit is "all over the country" when it so briefly cuts from Dulwich in summer bursting with greenery to somewhere *possibly Northern* in brutal clear focus.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:35 (six months ago) link
Lol that the main parties are represented by louche gay retirees
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:36 (six months ago) link
???
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:37 (six months ago) link
there's a lot of Strasserite subtext in there tbf
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:37 (six months ago) link
I fear I am gonna be caught walking around repeating “we can’t just have open borders,, with, an,yone coming in??” to myself
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:48 (six months ago) link
they couldn't have the Labour one admitting they were just as fash as SDP. I'm too busy to talk rn, got to send some threatening legal letters to Martin Forde and block some Muslim candidates from standing. But tell Liddle he's welcome to come back.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 18:05 (six months ago) link
Stonehenge is a load of shite anyway. I saw a program once where the presenter was marvelling at the neolithic ingenuity it took to lug some bigass rocks from Wales. Wow, big deal.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 18:06 (six months ago) link
just a lonely girl, tryin ta stop immigration
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 18:07 (six months ago) link
I was thinking what familiar vibe I was getting from that vid. It was shit 80's horror movie Dream Demon (that has Jimmy Nail in it).
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 18:24 (six months ago) link
oh that one
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 18:29 (six months ago) link
it was a big hit in the video rental shops
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 18:43 (six months ago) link
Just watched about as much as I could bear of an interview with Rachel reeves and she is just really unbelievably stupid; without a basic grasp of simple causative concepts a small child could understand.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 21:09 (six months ago) link
Just mad that everyone (who counts) can team up to put anyone in number 11 and they choose this blithering idiot
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 21:10 (six months ago) link
I cannot stand listening to her voice for more than a couple of seconds.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 21:18 (six months ago) link
I hate her more than Kieth, mainly because I've been hating her much longer - ever since her hateful benefits scum rhetoric when she was in Ed's shadow cabinet. Also she is a fucking economically illiterate moron with a portrait of a nazi on the feature wall of her office. Hope she dies.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 21:22 (six months ago) link
she's an extreme example of the "what the fuck led you to a job in politics when you've clearly got no interest in it?" Labour vibe
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 21:23 (six months ago) link
Yeah, I got a Facebook reminder a while ago that it'd been 11 years since I posted something on Thatcher's death, noting that some of her victory was the Shadow State for Work and Pensions vowing that Labour were going to be tougher on welfare than the Tories - and that Shadoe Secretary is going to be Chancellor in just over two weeks!
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 20 June 2024 01:41 (six months ago) link
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 21:18 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Yes this is a significant barrier also!
― plax (ico), Thursday, 20 June 2024 07:34 (six months ago) link
it was funny when it was revealed the book she *wrote* on female economists was just basically a load of c+ped wikipedia entries in series and it plagiarised Hilary fucking Benn. But yet she is considered some kind of paragon of steely eyed competence by grown ups. Her voice is just like Kieth's.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 June 2024 07:49 (six months ago) link
New: Understand Islington North Labour CLP chair Alison McGarry resigned today after being “caught red-handed” campaigning for Jeremy Corbyn. She apparently attempted to hide behind a hedge after being spotted by “multiple witnesses”— Rachael Burford (@RachaelBurford) June 19, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 June 2024 08:02 (six months ago) link
― conrad, Thursday, 20 June 2024 08:26 (six months ago) link
Remember when Reeves cried about being called a red Tory https://t.co/JUCJRpTc79 pic.twitter.com/Hnku26tx2q— j (@jrc1921) July 14, 2023
Try calling her a Socialist and seeing how she reacts to that.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2024 09:10 (six months ago) link
Reeves is like Truss, seemingly; only a spell in government will cure her of her credibility with the media and politics bods in general. Maybe after she's fucked our futures she can go back to her natural home profiting shareholders on a board somewhere
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:19 (six months ago) link
lol I got my dates wrong above - Reeves didn't become DWP Shadow Secretary until October 2013 (and then started making the existing line even tougher) - the Shadow Secretary I was bothered about at the time of Thatcher's death was..... Liam Fucking Byrne!
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:32 (six months ago) link
I saw a video of Praful Nargund doing a presentation on the "very important" matter of privatising healthcare. This would have required damage control if he had been a Tory candidate in 2019. But now its not even news and he could end up unseating Corbyn. He's got a head start with all the party apparatus and data and then some disengaged voters will vote Labour without even looking at the candidate name. The thing in Jez's favour is that he talks like a creepy cunt and most ppl meeting him might need a sick bag.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:33 (six months ago) link
Which is precisely why they're keeping him away from any hustings and making sure he speaks to as few voters as possible. My abiding hope is that as more and more polls show Labour with some ridiculous Putin style 400+ seats and 200+ majority, people will say fuck it, they're going to win anyway I can vote for Corbyn (or whoever) after all. However the world is so shit right now that probably won't happen.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:40 (six months ago) link
I'm not sure people vote that way. Corbyn and May were both supposedly unpopular in 2017, which should have given license for people in safe seats not to vote for them but both racked up the votes in safe seats regardless
― anvil, Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:46 (six months ago) link
I don't see the connection. Keeping the Tories out is the main reason lots of people vote Labour, if they're on their way to 420 seats that doesn't seem such a motivator, they can afford to lose the odd seat here and there.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:53 (six months ago) link
Having looked at the Islington North result from 2019, if we assume a substantial squeezing of the tory and lib dem vote as right wingers in the constituency coalesce around Nargund, it looks like Corbyn will need to keep at minumum about 2/3 of his existing vote to win. It sounds achievable, if the word can be got out effectively enough that it's really a byelection with no real bearing on the national result. But who knows. It's a bit annoying that Corbyn didn't start campaigning until labour imposed a candidate- if he'd accepted the obvious a while back, that he was never going to be labour's candidate under Keith, and started work accordingly- he could have had it sewn up tight by now.
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:53 (six months ago) link
2/3rds that is- 2 or 3 voters isn't going to cut it
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:54 (six months ago) link
The YouGov poll for Sky suggests he's going to lose... not by much but it's not that close either. If that's what happens I'm never setting foot in Waitrose on Holloway Road again.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:56 (six months ago) link
I don't see the connection. Keeping the Tories out is the main reason lots of people vote Labour, if they're on their way to 420 seats that doesn't seem such a motivator,
I think because in a safe seat your vote doesn't matter. So voting against the opposition isn't necessary, and if you don't like your own candidate there is no reason to vote. But people voted Tories and Labour in high volumes in 2017 in safe seats where their vote didn't matter and they had a chance to boycott their supposedly unpopular leaders
Its not clear to me that people voted any differently in places the result mattered than in those where it didn't (although the obvious counter to that is that neither May nor Corbyn were actually unpopular at all, which is probably also true)
― anvil, Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:59 (six months ago) link
The YouGov poll for Sky suggests he's going to lose... not by much but it's not that close either.
the yougov mrp is fundamentally going to struggle at predicting seats like corbyn's where there are distinctive local factors that don't map to the broader partisan trends, that's just not what that sort of model is good at predicting.
― ufo, Thursday, 20 June 2024 12:48 (six months ago) link
they know it as well, but Corbyn losing is the content they crave. Not to suggest he hasn't got a big task on.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 June 2024 12:55 (six months ago) link
It also appears @prafulnargund failed to register or declare this clear conflict of interest when serving as Labour councillor in Islington.The US based company he was employed by have numerous private clinics throughout the UK, including one just a mile away from Islington! https://t.co/UITBB3Qpaf— Red Collective (@RedCollectiveUK) June 19, 2024
this guy is so mired in Tory style sleaze you can see why Labour are hiding him from public debate and scrutiny.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 June 2024 13:35 (six months ago) link
Islington North’s Labour campaign, proud to have photos in front of a hedge
he's posted a petty dig at someone who has had to resign from Islington N CLP because she couldn't in good conscience, support the candidacy of this vile little creep.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:34 (six months ago) link
― ufo, Thursday, June 20, 2024 12:48 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
I'm waiting to see the commissioned survation poll
― plax (ico), Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:40 (six months ago) link
Lotta Vote Corbyn posters in the shops and restaurants 'round Finsbury Park I gotta say.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:42 (six months ago) link
I haven't been in a long time but will be around Monday probably so interested to see. Have been considering phone banking for the campaign
― plax (ico), Thursday, 20 June 2024 16:22 (six months ago) link
Looked up on the bus and the way home and what do I see ... a Vote Corbyn poster. No guarantee of anything and I suspect the Shy Tory phenomenon has been replaced by Shy Labour in this constituency.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2024 16:51 (six months ago) link
For the first time in her life, my Daily Mail reading, 83 year old mother in law isn’t going to vote Tory (and she’s not defecting to Reform either, which is a relief as I do love her dearly).
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 20 June 2024 17:12 (six months ago) link
did she make that Social Democrats ad then
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 20 June 2024 19:28 (six months ago) link
Not sure poster count means much. I see about five Faiza Shaheen posters for every one Labour parachute candidate one round our way, but she's not going to win. Hope I'm wrong!
― Alba, Thursday, 20 June 2024 19:42 (six months ago) link
hilarious that SKS has ended up saying he would have preferred jeremy corbyn to boris johnson - a lot of people will now be questioning his judgement!
― conrad, Friday, 21 June 2024 08:41 (six months ago) link
Imagine that, the cunt has finally admitted the guy he served under and said would be a "great Prime Minister" would have been better than one of the worst Prime Ministers in British history - hurrah!
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 21 June 2024 08:55 (six months ago) link
And I bet he doesn't even believe that...
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 21 June 2024 09:04 (six months ago) link
That’s the line he should have taken all along, but whoever’s running his show has STAY CLASSY tattoed in their arse.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 21 June 2024 09:29 (six months ago) link
Worry not, one of Murdoch's creatures will have a word with of McSweeney's and Starmer will be urged to repair the damage; he'll be denouncing Corbyn's antisemitism or pacifism in a day or two.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 21 June 2024 10:12 (six months ago) link
I've no real interest in The Real Kier Starmer, but the opening paragraphs do underline how amazingly bad he is at any of this.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/22/you-asked-me-questions-ive-never-asked-myself-keir-starmers-most-personal-interview-yet
But then he can’t really say if he’s strictly an optimist or a pessimist and, no, doesn’t know if he’s an extrovert or an introvert, either. “I’ve never really thought about it. I don’t know what that tells you.” He doesn’t know what he dreamed last night – or ever: “I don’t dream.” Just hits the pillow at 11 and – “bang” – is out till around 5. He doesn’t have a favourite novel or poem, wasn’t scared of anything as a child. “Nothing. No phobias.” Hmmm, this is harder than I thought. What about his lovely heather-coloured tie, where is it from and who chose it? He takes it between finger and thumb. “Would you say heather? I had it down as slightly darker.” Quick-fire is perhaps not his format.
(Content warning that the latter part of the article is largely about The Real Kier Starmer)
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 22 June 2024 13:23 (six months ago) link
NEW Constituency Poll in Holborn and St Pancras for @38degrees LAB 54% (-12)GRE 14% (+11)LD 9% (-3)CON 9% (-6)IND 6% (new)REF 5% (+3 from Brexit Party)OTH 4% (+4)F/w 19th - 21st June. Changes vs. Notional 2019 result pic.twitter.com/W9LXTf3hFZ— Survation. (@Survation) June 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 June 2024 17:54 (five months ago) link
If this is happening in Starmer's backyard then maybe Lab won't win as many marginals
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 June 2024 17:55 (five months ago) link
That London though, Sadiq Khan's multicultural ULEZ crime-ridden Islamist hellhole.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 June 2024 17:58 (five months ago) link
LAB 54% (-12)GRE 14% (+11)
yeah he's going to piss it, but that is a big chunk of his vote that could go green and Feinstein isn't polling too badly, all things considered.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 23 June 2024 19:18 (five months ago) link
he actually spent a nuclear amount on campaign ads in Holborn, higher than anywhere else in the country apparently. The cunt is slightly rattled.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 23 June 2024 19:20 (five months ago) link
Sorry this is naive. I would not trust Lib Dems to deliver this in a coalition with Lab.
Not sure I've mentioned yet that the @LibDems manifesto on migration is really excellent.The only one of 3 main parties to commit to scrapping the Hostile Environment & learn the lessons from Windrush, propose safe routes for refugees, or take steps to keep families together 🩷— Zoe Gardner (@ZoeJardiniere) June 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 24 June 2024 09:33 (five months ago) link
... obvious but always true.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Monday, 24 June 2024 09:44 (five months ago) link
still waiting for the Guardian to resurrect one of their "Lib/Lab will save Britain" headlines
― that's that me: a Viking (seandalai), Monday, 24 June 2024 11:09 (five months ago) link
Don't need to when Labour aren't threatening to do anything
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 June 2024 11:54 (five months ago) link
Not to be mean but I'm pretty sure Zoe Gardner was very unenthusiastic about Labour in 2018, when they were offering everything she claims to want.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 24 June 2024 12:15 (five months ago) link
Latest CCHQ email sent in the name of Keir Starmer:“Ignore this email and let me do to the country what you know I want to do.” pic.twitter.com/IBcOKEsBre— James Heale (@JAHeale) June 24, 2024
Yours not sincerely,Keir Starmer (not really but it is what he thinks)
Keir Starmer (not really but it is what he thinks)
might sign all of my posts like this from now on
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 24 June 2024 21:17 (five months ago) link
a lot of that is ripe coming from the Tories. 'i want to change the system so i can stay in power for years'. you mean like boundary changes, and voter suppression? the discredited 2000 pounds thing is still there. and if pensioners are paying income tax now it's because of the threshold freezes.
― koogs, Monday, 24 June 2024 23:34 (five months ago) link
The highest quality candidates
BREAK: Labour now facing their own betting scandal Party has suspended parliamentary candidate Kevin Craig after being told the Gambling Commission has launched an investigation into him— Shehab Khan ITV (@ShehabKhan) June 25, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 17:47 (five months ago) link
that's not the best bit
I understand Labour will return the £100,000 Kevin Craig has donated to the party under Keir Starmer's leadershiphttps://t.co/m2CNNvg7Wb— Aubrey Allegretti (@breeallegretti) June 25, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 17:50 (five months ago) link
it's VERY surprising when Labour have brought in a load of ne'er-do-well corrupt councillors, millionaires and corporate lobbyists as parliamentary candidates and it turns out they've got some dodgy fuckers amongst this intake!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 17:59 (five months ago) link
The best bit might be that he was betting on himself to lose, presumably as a hedge?
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:04 (five months ago) link
it would be a win-win (until your arse gets hauled in by the gambling commision, lool)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:07 (five months ago) link
This is the dumbest possible scandal so I guess it was inevitable a labour guy would be found doing the exact same thing
― subpost master (wins), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:08 (five months ago) link
like betting against the club you support and don't really want to lose, the highly corrupt and illegal version of that.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:09 (five months ago) link
Yea i guess “the same thing but even dumber” is technically more accurate
― subpost master (wins), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:18 (five months ago) link
it's easy to imagine young + dumb footballers getting into trouble like this out of a mix of youthful naivety, ignorance and also the nature of gambling addiction. These old politicians who've been caught out, well these bent impetuous fucks just think they are above the law imo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:22 (five months ago) link
this is a fantastic photo the guardian has gone with
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/dd5883f6fbc3ccf5d2e25c8c474638f8230c0692/0_60_754_452/master/754.jpg?width=1300&dpr=2&s=none
https://i.imgur.com/swGeiUt.png
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:24 (five months ago) link
also one for the Kieth looking very awkward and unsettled next to tall people archive
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:28 (five months ago) link
betting on the Tories winning his own seat!!!!! lololol11!!!!eleventy!!!11!!
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 19:11 (five months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1801967323181395970/nNpw9Peq?format=jpg&name=900x900
The Labour candidate suspended for betting against himself in the general election is chief executive of lobbyist PLMRKevin Craig's company was behind Responsible Gambling Week, 'a nationwide awareness campaign to promote safe gambling'
Kevin Craig's company was behind Responsible Gambling Week, 'a nationwide awareness campaign to promote safe gambling'
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 26 June 2024 04:08 (five months ago) link
How you know your MP/PPC is of the Labour right: coming from or going to a sinecure with a gambling lobby or organisation. I loathe this ‘industry’.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 26 June 2024 04:32 (five months ago) link
OK.
Labour’s plan for your future: tax, tax, tax. pic.twitter.com/8OVNVp4hac— Conservatives (@Conservatives) June 26, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 22:09 (five months ago) link
TV ratings last night:Sunak v Starmer, BBC One: average 2.7m, peak 3mGeorgia v Portugal, ITV: average 4.2m, peak 6.4m
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 June 2024 11:03 (five months ago) link
🗳️ MRP projection for Islington North:⚪️ Corbyn 37% (+37)🔴 LAB 33% (-31)🔵 CON 12% (+2)🟢 GRN 8% (-)Via @ElectCalculus / @FindoutnowUK, 14-24 June pic.twitter.com/KlzVEBuCyo— Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️⚧️ (@LeftieStats) June 27, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 11:23 (five months ago) link
Tory vote up?
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 27 June 2024 11:26 (five months ago) link
Yeah, that looks well dodgy.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2024 11:38 (five months ago) link
Poster who runs that account needs to die
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 June 2024 11:40 (five months ago) link
Glad that Left discourse on Twitter is so firmly focused on one single bloke
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 June 2024 11:45 (five months ago) link
there are a few candidates whose failure would make me happy - Praful Nargund, Akehurst, Debbonaire, Babs come to mind. But otherwise it's just going to be a dreadful GE night. These cunts winning a big majority is going to feel just as much an augur of bad shit to come as 2019 was to me. No harm in concentrating on the ones you want to fail most!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 12:09 (five months ago) link
No Lib Dem column and I thought Greens had stood down in Islington North?
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 27 June 2024 12:11 (five months ago) link
I think the person behind that account is a bit cracked!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 12:15 (five months ago) link
"Hardly bad"
Across the country there is the most the most corrosive cynicism about politics. We can argue about why it’s there, and it’s justified sometimes, but it can also be reflexive and unfair. Not sure we should laud and amplify it without good reason- Sunak and Starmer have their…— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) June 27, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 June 2024 12:30 (five months ago) link
ppl need to be more civil and respectful towards subhuman scum
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 12:45 (five months ago) link
wtf pic.twitter.com/GIdJFYNNZY— ©️Miss Gripper ™️ (@missgripper_) June 26, 2024
I can't stand Dylan, but this is good
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 13:18 (five months ago) link
What’s Ed Davey up to now? pic.twitter.com/AEoyTqYVxM— Swed (@Swedleypops) June 26, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 June 2024 14:15 (five months ago) link
I thought that must have been some AI generated filth at first, amazingly it is real
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 14:21 (five months ago) link
#upthearsecorner
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 27 June 2024 14:36 (five months ago) link
OK so lots of people in Islington North think Corbyn is the Labour candidate.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/27/jeremy-corbyn-voter-confusion-islington-north
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2024 15:13 (five months ago) link
“We spoke to one person who said ‘I’ve already voted by post, and voted Labour – I love Jeremy,’”
This of course is largely Corbyn's own fault for clinging on to the Labour Party for so long.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2024 15:17 (five months ago) link
There’s no knowing whether that person put their x next to the Labour logo or JC’s name, of course.
― Tim, Thursday, 27 June 2024 16:17 (five months ago) link
Do we know how he's listed on the ballot - "Independent" "Independent Labour" or "Labour (Independent)" or what? This could really be the thing that swings it.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 27 June 2024 16:33 (five months ago) link
“We spoke to one person who said ‘I’ve already voted by post, and voted Labour – I love Jeremy,’” one Labour source said. “But you’ll knock on other doors and people go ‘no, not Labour. Oh, hang on, it’s not Jeremy any more.’”
"Labour source" wouldn't lie about these things, of course
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 27 June 2024 16:49 (five months ago) link
“The thing about Jeremy is that he always overestimates how popular he is,” one party source said.
Also, this may or may not be true, but they are only saying it because they regard it as gross impertinence that he should dare to challenge them at all. They've said nothing like this about Farage
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 27 June 2024 16:57 (five months ago) link
Of course! It works both ways. I'm trying to remember the relative prominence of the candidate's name or party on a ballot sheet.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2024 17:04 (five months ago) link
i think currently the logo is more prominent than the name and it's right next to the tick box
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 June 2024 17:09 (five months ago) link
it could work both ways but if they are sleep-voting it's more likely to be LABOUR that get's the x.
latest IPSOS poll has Starmer's favourability rating even lower than Corbyn's ever fell to. An amazing achievement with a compliant UK media giving him a free pass.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 17:11 (five months ago) link
Looks like this
https://i.imgur.com/aAikgmo.gif
― Alba, Thursday, 27 June 2024 19:44 (five months ago) link
Corbyn relying on doddery old codgers not noticing anything other his name on the ballot paper.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2024 19:47 (five months ago) link
^^
how the class struggle is advanced!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 19:47 (five months ago) link
(Socialist fire)brand recognition
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2024 19:51 (five months ago) link
Corbyn is alphabetically ahead of nargund
― plax (ico), Thursday, 27 June 2024 21:46 (five months ago) link
What are the Reform grassroots like and lol.
One thing about Sunak that really hasn't been discussed is whether his Indian background goes into the list of reasons he is fucked.
EXCLUSIVE: We’ve gone undercover inside Nigel Farage’s Reform UK campaign in Clacton and found evidence of anti-migrant rhetoric, homophobia and one canvasser making racist and offensive remarks. As @DarshnaSoni reports. pic.twitter.com/VkhVLczjcw— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) June 27, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2024 06:58 (five months ago) link
Its not necessarily on the UK media. It just hasn't been trotted out as an answer anywhere.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2024 06:59 (five months ago) link
I remember people talking about racism as a factor in why he lost the leadership election to Truss the first time around
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 28 June 2024 07:14 (five months ago) link
Lovely bunch of lads.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 28 June 2024 07:18 (five months ago) link
In the melted mind saying the word "racist" out loud is significantly worse than actual racism
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 June 2024 07:19 (five months ago) link
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 28 June 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Guess so but that's 100k pensioners than the wider electorate.
A lot of Tories staying at home or being energised to vote Reform makes even more sense.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2024 07:48 (five months ago) link
"But there is a second scenario in which Starmer’s Labour succeeds, as New Labour did not, in fully marginalising the Tories; Labour would, in effect, becomes a new, competent, small-C conservative party. This would be welcome – a Starmer-led conservatism is infinitely preferable to a Sunak-led one. It also opens up the possibility that the stultifying consensus of the past 40 years is broken not by the extreme right, by new political forces of the centre and left – who have fresh stories to tell about where we have been and where we might go."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/28/keir-starmer-labour-britain-conservative-party
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2024 17:13 (five months ago) link
another blinkered old history prof that needs to stick with history imo
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 17:32 (five months ago) link
Ugh. So much wishful thinking going on with these cunts.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 28 June 2024 17:33 (five months ago) link
you have to be on drugs or are just be utterly clueless to believe there is going to be any kind of centre-left policy direction from Labour in govt. He's wrote some good stuff in the past and was the only establishment liberal to call bullshit on the "worst election result since 1931" line from the Labour Right. He's got more integrity than most of those wankers, so I'd go with clueless in this case.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 17:40 (five months ago) link
My charitable reading on that para is that the 5% left of Toryism could be welcome. Sadly I don't think crumbs from the ruling classes is the way to go.
Because a competent small c-conservatism still kills the poor, the vulnerable and ethnic minorities and I don't think moving the dial just a tiny bit is worth it in anyway.
Bizarre conclusion as I was mostly OK with what I was reading up to then.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2024 18:30 (five months ago) link
i take it to be meaning that starmer's success knocking out the tories and setting out a new-conservative table may have the (good) effect of clearing space for and energising younger forces on the left. is it well written to that end? not especially! will this happen? it's up to us!*
*not me, i am not "younger forces"
― mark s, Friday, 28 June 2024 18:38 (five months ago) link
there is a nutcase my stepdad occasionally plays chess with who he has nicknamed "forces". It came from an incident where nutcase was trying to ponce some money off him with some ridiculous scheme and stepdad said nah I'm skint m8. And in reply he went on a long ramble about "the forces" that have made his life one of intolerable failure and how he's going to fight back against these forces with deadly measures, then he menacingly added I'm starting to think you might be part of the forces, you could become part of the forces, you know!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 19:18 (five months ago) link
https://images.indianexpress.com/2024/05/Praful.jpg?w=1024
at the moment, this is the face of "younger forces" within the PLP
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 19:21 (five months ago) link
"i take it to be meaning that starmer's success knocking out the tories and setting out a new-conservative table may have the (good) effect of clearing space for and energising younger forces on the left."
As you say not especially well argued if that is what he means.
I would like to see a take like this bcz I need that crumb!
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2024 19:55 (five months ago) link
after the vote changes Starmer enacted within NEC any chance of member led movements happening within Labour again are effectively dead and due to climate change, even in the short term, humanity might be fucked as well. To be naive enough to think that politicians within this rotten, anti-democratic to the core party are going to change this rotten game or even push the overton window a few mills to the left, are fucking deluded imo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 20:07 (five months ago) link
unless member driven movements are corporate lobbyists, landlords, IDF apologist lobby groups etc..
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 20:08 (five months ago) link
I don't think the logic in mark s's post necessitates the energising younger forces coming from within labour - in fact if anything labour taking the place of the tories means the opening up for new forces would happen outside it
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 28 June 2024 20:12 (five months ago) link
we might see a glimpse of some of that next week
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 20:15 (five months ago) link
maybe it's a case of people on the left finally getting the message that Labour is not a vehicle for change and starting to face the realities of what needs to be done
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 June 2024 20:15 (five months ago) link
actually never mind Labour, maybe recognising that electoral politics in the UK as now constituted is probably not a vehicle for change
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 June 2024 20:17 (five months ago) link
Just as an aside I am glad this election has coincided with the Euros. The football has proved to be distracting.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2024 20:37 (five months ago) link
yes i took edgerton's "new forces" to mean forces arising outside the labour party (tho i was writing no more clearly than him i guess)
― mark s, Friday, 28 June 2024 20:49 (five months ago) link
those younger forces in full: https://i.imgur.com/3qu4Esw.jpg
― subpost master (wins), Friday, 28 June 2024 20:56 (five months ago) link
Edgerton is good at writing about stuff like the electronic warfare equipment of ww2, but in the realm of contemporary politics (apart from when I rarely agree with him) he's an extremely wrong hack!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 21:48 (five months ago) link
A really good essay by Huw Lemmey, mostly on class as it runs through a number of books and films but also released at certain points in the political cycle, where it tips from red to blue and back again.
https://huw.substack.com/p/everybody-hates-a-tourist
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 June 2024 10:45 (five months ago) link
Latest odds:
Labour Majority 1/80
No Overall Majority 18/1
Reform UK Majority 100/1
Conservative Majority 150/1
Liberal Democrat majority 250/1
― Mark G, Saturday, 29 June 2024 11:43 (five months ago) link
Turnout in Iranian election was 40%
Wonder what it will be like here. Below 50?
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 June 2024 11:50 (five months ago) link
has everyone been getting this or is it a local concept?
https://i.imgur.com/gzGg9Mv.jpeg
― mark s, Saturday, 29 June 2024 19:30 (five months ago) link
You wouldn't know an election is on where I live... well apart from the four Vote Corbyn posters I just saw in the street parallel to mine.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 June 2024 19:34 (five months ago) link
Widget got papped by the Corbyn canvassers on Thursday afternoon :)
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 29 June 2024 20:44 (five months ago) link
I don't care for Glasto or Coldplay but lol at looking at this through Lab party politics.
Especially this melt.
Coldplay is just rubbing it in the face of everyone with any lingering residual attachment to the idea of festival culture as remotely countercultural. It’s one thing to platform the pop princesses du jour, but this feels like the cultural equivalent of deselecting Faiza Shaheen. https://t.co/s43c2ZESgd— Jeremy Gilbert (@jemgilbert) June 30, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 30 June 2024 08:44 (five months ago) link
i also don't give a shit about Coldplay but they certainly bring out the hatred from people who think they're still edgy as fuck for liking some other guitar boy shite
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 June 2024 08:59 (five months ago) link
Exactly
― Mark G, Sunday, 30 June 2024 09:06 (five months ago) link
my son keeps playing this 30 second clip of a Coldplay song over and over in the next room, sometimes for an hour. And it doesn't make me angry, but sometimes I have to put my headphones on. Just lol at the idea of music festivals being countercultural events, stfu posh hippy - most ppl can't even afford the tickets.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 June 2024 09:11 (five months ago) link
All countercultural events from the past would now be mainstream events.
― Mark G, Sunday, 30 June 2024 09:17 (five months ago) link
always laugh at the idea of working class people in retail and hospitality industries having the money and the holiday entitlement for it and choosing to take time off for four days in middle of summer to go get wasted in a field to some middling indie
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 30 June 2024 09:17 (five months ago) link
i know "but mark fisher" can quickly pull you into tricky places but one of my favourites remains "kpunk was a coldplay stan"
as am i of course *everyone groans at my shit*
― mark s, Sunday, 30 June 2024 09:57 (five months ago) link
oh from my 'hanging out with online zoomers' findings I can confirm that hating Coldplay is a passe genx/millennial activity, the young nerds consider them a decent pop band, I've found myself giving them props
― imago, Sunday, 30 June 2024 09:59 (five months ago) link
I went to see Coldplay in 2005 with my family at an outdoor concert - my grandparents bought us tickets after confusing them with Goldfrapp who we were all fans of. I saw a guy do the biggest line of cocaine off the back of his hand at the start of Fix You and then have a highly emotional response to the rest of the show, it was quite bizarre
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:01 (five months ago) link
imago there confirming thst user dubdobdee is an "online zoomer"
― mark s, Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:03 (five months ago) link
it's true!
― imago, Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:05 (five months ago) link
― imago, Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:59 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
theory: what Phil Collins is to millenials, Coldplay is to gen z
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:09 (five months ago) link
i know st peter will call my name have a little honest word that the splinter rule the worldChatGPTThe lyrics you provided seem to be a bit mixed up, but they closely resemble lines from the song "Viva La Vida" by Coldplay. The actual lyrics are:"I know Saint Peter won't call my nameNever an honest wordThat was when I ruled the world"
ChatGPTThe lyrics you provided seem to be a bit mixed up, but they closely resemble lines from the song "Viva La Vida" by Coldplay. The actual lyrics are:
"I know Saint Peter won't call my nameNever an honest wordThat was when I ruled the world"
this is how sharp my lyric comprehension skills are when IDing what turned out to be a Coldplay song playing over and over in the next room
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:20 (five months ago) link
The nerds I hang out with also really like Genesis tbf
― imago, Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:31 (five months ago) link
Yes, Coldplay are OK, I saw a Radiohead concert on TV once which annoyed me a million times more.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:33 (five months ago) link
Conclusion: Coldplay and Radiohead are not only both shite but indistinguishable to boot
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:58 (five months ago) link
I heard a Coldplay song recently and I was surprised at how stupid it was. I hadn't heard them in 10-15 years
― plax (ico), Sunday, 30 June 2024 13:53 (five months ago) link
Last I heard of them was Limmy watching a clip of them inviting James Corden onstage to sing for his birthday. It wasn't great tbh.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 30 June 2024 13:59 (five months ago) link
my controp is that i’d rather watch Muse at a festival than idk CHVRCHES or the 1975 or something
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:03 (five months ago) link
Oh God no, Muse are literally the worst band in the history of the human race.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:04 (five months ago) link
brah just wait till you get your face melted off at the Park stage
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:10 (five months ago) link
lol what next... Idles
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:20 (five months ago) link
I caught 5 minutes of Coldplay this morning. I've not really had any interaction with them for 10 years or so and christ alive, what *are* they now? They played 'Hymn to the Weekend' and Chris Martin bounced up and down like an ageing redcoat.
Also, are they the least recognisable 'huge' band ever? 'What does the bassist from Coldplay look like?' feels like an existential question somehow, one I don't know how to answer.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:29 (five months ago) link
Anyway, they're an easy target and I sound like a rockist dad.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:35 (five months ago) link
I think Coldplay are the rule as opposed to the exception there, I don't know that there's many bands from the last 20 years or so where casual fans know all members.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:38 (five months ago) link
isn't most of his public recognition down to him getting unconsciously fucked off by Paltrow?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:43 (five months ago) link
I think it might be selling 100m records to dullards
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:50 (five months ago) link
time to exit the vampire's castle matt
― mark s, Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:56 (five months ago) link
I was going to ask about other bands, as we are abroad and not watching coverage...
But, this isn't the Glastonbury thread, is it?
― Mark G, Sunday, 30 June 2024 17:06 (five months ago) link
Is he in a dance studio?
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/07ae0b2d5800cc5dc7822047ca4d6010149a4ed0/0_392_7416_4452/master/7416.jpg?width=465&dpr=1&s=none
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Sunday, 30 June 2024 20:35 (five months ago) link
just a lonely man, thinking about having a wank after shutting the curtains.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 June 2024 20:45 (five months ago) link
He’s talking about Lena Jeger here, who was a pioneer on women’s pensions and equal pay, and was a cross-party sponsor of the Abortion Law Reform Act of 1967. Starmer has quite a way to go before he can dismiss her like this. https://t.co/MG6VXV8o3H— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) June 30, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 July 2024 07:49 (five months ago) link
Pippa talking about exactly the kind of material improvement in people's lives Starmer won't do shit about
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 July 2024 07:51 (five months ago) link
I'd just simply put a No Pissing sign in the elevator! Kieth would have people serve an 18 month prison sentence for pissing in elevators, no mistake. What Kieth is essentially saying is he'd come out with some condescending bullshit to the moaning voter, because they are idiotic scum and you don't talk to them on the level or in a serious manner about the real issues - just assume they are extremely thick and feed 'em shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 1 July 2024 08:48 (five months ago) link
is this just a rebadging of the old "broken windows" bollocks?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 1 July 2024 08:56 (five months ago) link
Apologies for linking to Unherd but I found this quite an interesting read on the differences between Blair-Mandelson and the McSweeney-Starmer project - which in essence seems to be No Pissing signs on a slightly bigger scale.
https://unherd.com/2024/05/the-mcsweeney-project/
― Maggy Scraggle, Monday, 1 July 2024 08:59 (five months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRW-QavaYAAtS64?format=jpg&name=medium
Lena's own telling of that anecdote is not quite like Starmer's, but it wouldn't be because she was capable of self-deprecation and humour.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 1 July 2024 09:51 (five months ago) link
Pretty sure Kieth was just saying ‘imagine anyone actually gives a fuck about Gaza lol’ with his version of that anecdote rather than indicating he was going to fix council funding or whatever
― crisp, Monday, 1 July 2024 09:58 (five months ago) link
I occasionally run into centre-left types who think of foreign policy as some secondary concern, like it's a nice charity initiative you can indulge in sometimes but not The Important Bit Of Politics.
As a foreigner living in the UK it is always sobering to see.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 1 July 2024 10:01 (five months ago) link
Potholes Not Gaza should have been one of Labour's slogans for this election.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Monday, 1 July 2024 10:06 (five months ago) link
Ed Davey uses bungee jump to urge voters to 'do something you've never done before' and vote Lib Dem
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 July 2024 13:48 (five months ago) link
Some pointless, gimmicky, potentially risky, activity that impresses no-one except those who've done it before.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Monday, 1 July 2024 14:00 (five months ago) link
Next stunt full midsommar Ättestupa ceremony or gtfo
― subpost master (wins), Monday, 1 July 2024 14:03 (five months ago) link
Tomorrow: Ed Davey takes a submersible to the wreck of the Titanic
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Monday, 1 July 2024 14:07 (five months ago) link
North face of the Eiger the day after.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Monday, 1 July 2024 14:14 (five months ago) link
In his most daredevil stunt yet, Davey tries to justify u-turning on student fees to an audience of debt-ridden 30 year olds
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 1 July 2024 14:17 (five months ago) link
Ed Davey to face a riled up Jofra Archer wearing no box challenge
― SPENGE (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 1 July 2024 14:18 (five months ago) link
Zoom in on my marrow. pic.twitter.com/J4SPoBiLMX— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) June 30, 2024
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 July 2024 20:53 (five months ago) link
Ooer missus
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Monday, 1 July 2024 20:54 (five months ago) link
it's soo big
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 1 July 2024 20:56 (five months ago) link
can't even see wtf is to be zoomed in on - on his eye-watering marrow!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 1 July 2024 21:09 (five months ago) link
no good having a big marrow when you lack MeSsAGiNg DiSciPliNe!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 1 July 2024 21:26 (five months ago) link
Help us get out the vote in Islington North. Pussy Link in bio!
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 1 July 2024 21:47 (five months ago) link
Rude of Cromblyn to steal Labour's strategy of featuring big vegetables in their campaign ads
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 July 2024 21:49 (five months ago) link
kind of sad that the campaign only has another couple of days to run, I'd like to see how weird the tory promos would get if we carried on for another fortnight or so
Inside is a letter. Purportedly from future me in 2044 to me today in 2024...Mad. pic.twitter.com/zOpBFNw9po— goriller_of_3b (@goriller_of_3b) July 1, 2024
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 1 July 2024 22:33 (five months ago) link
Hmm, so that Reform letter suggests nothing would actually be terrible
― Mark G, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 03:29 (five months ago) link
Heis never going to stop
Whatever happens on 4 July, I will be there on Saturday demanding an end to arms sales to Israel. We have a message to any incoming government: we won’t let you abandon the Palestinian people. We won't let you turn a blind eye to genocide. pic.twitter.com/EV1fLunEPs— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) July 1, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 07:49 (five months ago) link
Friday Day one Labour policy.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/01/greece-introduces-growth-oriented-six-day-working-week
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 11:47 (five months ago) link
"Some could remember celebrating when Labour took the town hall, and they’d been talking about how they were going to vote this Thursday. No one said they were going to back Starmer, and it was largely because of their experience in this dispute. “So disappointed,” said one. Another said: “Two sides of the same coin.”"
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/02/euphoria-reality-labour-future-thatcher-tory
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 13:38 (five months ago) link
the gall of the parachuted-in Labour ghoul, Heather Iqbal doing a mailout with "the choice is between an unknown, unproven independent candidate shouting from the sidelines..." she lives in Glasgow and has no connections with the region at all, unlike the independent candidate.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 14:16 (five months ago) link
Plenty of wealth to be taxed.
And THAT is how you smash a target.👊💥 https://t.co/DMQhfNEDo9 pic.twitter.com/ytCuNUDjO8— Mike Galsworthy (@mikegalsworthy) July 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:20 (five months ago) link
if i was gonna vote for Labour on Thursday i would have a convincingly developed argunment about why i was voting for racism, transphobia and class hate but maybe i missed something
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 22:01 (five months ago) link
you missed the bit about them more likely to truly finish off the NHS as a free at point of access service than any Tory govt of the last decade, but that is just a fucking minor detail of how wretched they are!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 22:15 (five months ago) link
nah you're right calz i don't think we can undersell how much vicious evil destruction is on the way just in case anybody wants to feel good about getting the tories out
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 22:18 (five months ago) link
after years of existing within the protections inherent to the old fashioned legacy benefits I'm currently getting migrated onto UC and genuinely thinking to myself this is bad timing, not when Labour are getting in ffs!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 22:40 (five months ago) link
Private rents in Great Britain hit record high, data shows
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 08:39 (five months ago) link
Whatever the answer is, it certainly isn't rent controls or increasing public housing stock
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 09:59 (five months ago) link
The solution: PFI housing
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 10:22 (five months ago) link
"Now imagine if on Friday we learn that the Liberal Democrats have just beaten the Conservatives to get second place in terms of seat numbers, and so will become the official opposition to a Labour government. What the overall dividing lines between a Labour government and Liberal Democrat opposition will be are difficult to predict, but this in itself will make the UK political debate more interesting and probably more informed"
Hilarious shit taken from this blog by Simon Wren-Lewis:
https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2024/07/why-tactical-voting-in-this-election.html?m=1
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 11:45 (five months ago) link
"One insider with knowledge of the party’s growth plan suggested there could be “pretty hair-raising stuff” ahead. “There will have to be almost Truss-ite deregulation, on things like planning and freeports, in the first two years, that will have to be balanced with the longer term. But it will have to be presented carefully so that it doesn’t look like Tory-lite, sugar-rush economics.”"
Among all the fluff;
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/03/no-drama-starmer-how-labour-would-govern
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 12:49 (five months ago) link
more freeport expansion = more shitty poverty wage jobs and more tax evasion.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 14:04 (five months ago) link
so not gonna happen
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRkBSOzX0AAM2o2?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 14:27 (five months ago) link
According to the new More in Common MRP poll, Jeremy Corbyn is set to win in Islington North as an independent, beating the official Labour candidate by 43% to 37%.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 15:30 (five months ago) link
Fingers crossed.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 15:39 (five months ago) link
No hierarchy
Undercover police officers compiled numerous secret reports on Diane Abbott while she was campaigning against racism, a public inquiry has heard. https://t.co/XHz07QHWk7— rob evans (@robevansgdn) July 3, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 15:44 (five months ago) link
Looking forward to the Labour leadership's statement supporting their parliamentary candidate, assuming she still is (I got a bit lost with it tbh)
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 15:49 (five months ago) link
She is yeah, meaning I have to go and vote labour tomorrow. Was frankly hoping she'd go independent so I wouldn't.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 15:50 (five months ago) link
She deserves your vote! Despite late endorsements from [cranks I don’t like] anyone in Holborn and St Pancras should vote for Andrew Feinstein, ofc Widget-endorsed JEZZA if you are lucky enough to live in Islington North, and Faiza Shaheen in Chingford snd Woodford (do any ILXors live there?).
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 16:11 (five months ago) link
The people speak:
Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has entered his party’s rally at Clacton pier on an army vehicle to the tune of ‘Without Me’ by Eminem.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 18:05 (five months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/03/keir-starmer-son-toolmaker-but-different-class-problem-for-labour
this is good
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 18:30 (five months ago) link
if someone ran on the platform of inserting a electrode into every politician's head which gave them a potentially fatal electric shock every time they used the word "deliver" then they'd have my vote.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 18:35 (five months ago) link
Thanks NV.
"He also has a strongly held belief in tech and AI. His shadow cabinet is fixated on the possibility of “reforming” public service provision, particularly the NHS, for which Starmer has said technology will be used “to overhaul every aspect of delivery”. According to this view, there is little need for more money or investment when problems can be solved by better management and more “innovative” systems."
There is something to tech in facilitating solutions but they've been sucked in by management consultancy and when applied to some of the problems we face there is a a good chance it will be disastrous.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 19:04 (five months ago) link
this is fucking terrifying as well
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/02/labour-plans-britain-private-finance-blackrock
Labour’s strategy raises a bigger set of questions about the type of state we want. Starmer’s vision for government-by-BlackRock reduces the question of state capacity to “how do I get BlackRock to invest in infrastructure assets?” This model involves the state in effect subsidising the privatisation of everyday life. This doesn’t only make it harder to bring public goods back into public ownership; it also allows big finance to tighten the grip on the social contract with citizens, and to become the ultimate arbiter of climate, energy and welfare politics, which will have profound distributional, structural and political consequences.
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 19:29 (five months ago) link
I also like the photo they've chosen for this article
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/03/britain-will-not-rejoin-eu-in-my-lifetime-says-starmer
He's looking at some of the southeast FBPE types with that cheeky "got you!" grin
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 19:35 (five months ago) link
Xxp Particularly disastrous when waffle about “innovation” and “overhauling delivery” is received as sensible, realistic, not like the silly pie in the sky (defined material change) offered by the left
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 19:37 (five months ago) link
The prospect of the scale of PFI Labour could bring in is legit terrifying, yes
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 20:17 (five months ago) link
Gotta be more racist
🚨 BREAKING: The Times has refused to endorse Labour and will back no party this election pic.twitter.com/JBo46qo8Iz— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) July 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 20:33 (five months ago) link
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 bookmarkflaglink
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 bookmarkflaglink
The collapse -- when it comes -- could be fast.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 20:35 (five months ago) link
Always funny to hear that "we don't know what they're going to do" line - they're going to do all the shitty things you ghouls want done, relax. xpost
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 20:35 (five months ago) link
it's truly dystopian, after the last global crash, at the time did anyone suggest that letting these softly regulated parasitic hedge funds take over a country's infrastructure would be a jolly good idea?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 20:37 (five months ago) link
Surrounded by empty seats, in a closed dialogue with his plutocratic paymasters. A perfect encapsulation of the incoming Starmer government, a right-wing fraud perpetrated on the British people. https://t.co/Ne2LwzfXpC— Joe Guinan (@joecguinan) July 3, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 20:41 (five months ago) link
good luck, UK
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 4 July 2024 05:36 (five months ago) link
^^^
― mookieproof, Thursday, 4 July 2024 05:42 (five months ago) link
i'm just psyched cos i booked tomorrow off work
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 06:00 (five months ago) link
i don’t know if i’ve ever seen a politician this spineless. that list of politicians includes a lettuce btw
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 July 2024 07:30 (five months ago) link
Going "our way" everyone, no need to worry
One of my sisters has had a Labour First Minister in Wales, and I’ve been able to vote for Sadiq in London. But fourteen years is a REALLY long time in elections. It’s so weird to think about a results night that… goes our way?— Dr Charlotte Lydia Riley (@lottelydia) July 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 07:42 (five months ago) link
I wouldn't be boasting about a sister shagging a Labour First Minister
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 07:57 (five months ago) link
You don't have to feel hopeful about the future, it's enough to just be curious about what horrors are coming next.— Nihilists for Labour (@Nihilists4Lab) July 4, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 08:17 (five months ago) link
Fool.
If you think Starmer’s Labour is too cautious and conservative and you can’t get excited, simply load up on anguished right-wing commentary and see it through their eyes: a woke socialist revolution is coming— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) July 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 08:23 (five months ago) link
yeah thank god for the radical new vision of prime minister keir hongro
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 4 July 2024 08:31 (five months ago) link
Quantick has been saying similar things in similarly infuriating fashion https://bsky.app/profile/quantick.bsky.social/post/3kwgsfnsfhl2o
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 4 July 2024 08:42 (five months ago) link
I must admit I was convinced this was going to be a lot closer than predicted but the Tory campaign has been such a shambolic mess and Sunak such a total disaster that I can't see anything other than an unearned landslide for the Keirbot.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 08:47 (five months ago) link
Not buying off Farage too...
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 08:57 (five months ago) link
Indeed
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:05 (five months ago) link
Brain dead takes.
Well, it was amazing that we had a brown PM. Something I thought I would never live to see. But he dabbled in racism when it was convenient, and, politically speaking, turned out to be a total and utter bellend. https://t.co/zLctH6rK4O— Sathnam Sanghera (@Sathnam) July 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:23 (five months ago) link
So according to Dorian if you're not convinced that Starmer is going to be politically progressive, you should... *checks notes* have faith in Conservative propaganda
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:25 (five months ago) link
I'm not in UK, and was looking on the BBC website for the front pages, but there are none.
Am I too late, or are the FPs subject to the reporting restrictions? I have a vague memory this happened last year...
(I've seen the Sun fp, so no bother)
― Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:37 (five months ago) link
There is this, so maybe restriction-based? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd1xnr0qz4jo
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:40 (five months ago) link
Yeah, thought so, cheers.
― Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:50 (five months ago) link
This'll be the first time I've not seen them, usually totally crazy batshit time, even when they totally confident of winning. Can only guess how desperate they are now.
I got a hint if how The Times was leaning, I take it the Telegraph are Boris Crazy time...
― Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:52 (five months ago) link
I guess Private Eye is out already, funny how events conspire to make their news immediately out of date or/and speculative..
― Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:54 (five months ago) link
Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S) at 9:42 4 Jul 24Quantick has been saying similar things in similarly infuriating fashion https://bsky.app/profile/quantick.bsky.social/post/3kwgsfnsfhl2o
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 July 2024 10:07 (five months ago) link
I’m afraid you’re going to have to do this without me, two decaying postal services and Camden electoral services have conspired to deny me my democratic birthright to vote against a boiled ham in a suit.
― Ed, Thursday, 4 July 2024 10:08 (five months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRfm7sIXMAEdAVF?format=jpg&name=large
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 10:32 (five months ago) link
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 10:33 (five months ago) link
The concussive blast of the mockery would create a new geological layer
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 July 2024 10:35 (five months ago) link
Ah, Ed, I’m sorry you didn’t get that to work out but next time let’s make sure your proxy vote is locked down, happy to help :)
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 4 July 2024 10:57 (five months ago) link
I always hated Quantick (and Maconie's) smug faces and patter in the 90s, but inexplicably we were told this guy was funny. Jane Bussman was the only reason to watch their tv show.
Quantick called 2019 Labour votes "deluded wankers". Always projection.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 July 2024 10:59 (five months ago) link
Maconie used to file reviews for gigs he never attended. If my friend who was his editor had found out in time, she would’ve sacked his ass and a bereft world would never have known the glory that is Cider With Roadies.
Incredulous 22yo me to Quantick in the NME office, checking out his T-shirt: “YOU know who Jenny Holzer is? Amazed!”
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:08 (five months ago) link
_So according to Dorian if you're not convinced that Starmer is going to be politically progressive, you should... *checks notes* have faith in Conservative propaganda_Honestly wish that guy still posted here
― subpost master (wins), Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:18 (five months ago) link
wins otm, Dorian a cunt regardless
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:24 (five months ago) link
This ham can be easily weakened by a scandal.
Starmer has responded to our story on freebies: (I make it that £23k of Starmer’s freebies were Arsenal away matches) https://t.co/D42SkfEkgJ pic.twitter.com/uDKrQiocJM— Chris Cook (@xtophercook) July 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:28 (five months ago) link
Xp No front pages on the BBC website today, but the Star front page looks like this:https://www.frontpages.com/g/2024/07/03/daily-star-233216465.webp
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:30 (five months ago) link
the mailagraph will go ham on him and it will be fun to see what they dig up and make into an issue
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:30 (five months ago) link
The Daily Mail front is 'Vote Farage, Get Them' with them being Keir and Rayner (who they particularly despise)But seems intended to also be interpreted as 'Vote Farage! GET 'em!'
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:42 (five months ago) link
I don't reckon the right wing press will going after Starmer for a while yet. If they get this ridiculous majority they're going to be all powerful for years to come and the media are going to have deal with that.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:52 (five months ago) link
You can see all the front pages here:https://www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk/Who will save us from "rampant wokery" and the "surrender of our Brexit freedoms"?
― groovypanda, Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:57 (five months ago) link
I believe the Brexit freedoms may be safe for a while yet
― PJ Scurvy (Matt #2), Thursday, 4 July 2024 12:22 (five months ago) link
Thank god England are going to lose is my main feeling atm
― subpost master (wins), Thursday, 4 July 2024 12:39 (five months ago) link
Lab policy idea:
Greece Just Became the First European Country to Impose a 6-Day Workweekhttps://t.co/VDG4INewGl— Alex doing Research (@AAfouxenidis) July 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 12:40 (five months ago) link
saw a poll a few years ago showing that Greek people had the longest working week in Europe already.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 July 2024 12:54 (five months ago) link
Live a min from a polling station. Its all quite lively. There are never going to be many queues in my solidly Lab constituency.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 13:02 (five months ago) link
they split my ward into 2 queues depending on which half you live in, my half had no queue and the other one was down the street. not sure why, just luck maybe
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 13:05 (five months ago) link
Polling station on my estate was just putting up signs as I was on my way to work. It’s about 30s walk from my house but the idea of going home to get my passport then going out again to vote is already making me annoyed. Totally pointless vote (Harriet Harman’s old constituency - no idea who the new candidate is but assume they’re nailed on to win), will either vote Green because they’re the only party who ever bother to come and have a visible presence on the estate, or I’ll spoil the ballot, depending on how my next 3 hours go.
― crisp, Thursday, 4 July 2024 13:46 (five months ago) link
it isn't quite Harman's old constituency, it's a new one that largely covers it! pedantry is important! good to know C Sheppard will have at least 2 votes, she seems nice
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2024 13:50 (five months ago) link
the heir apparent seems like she's from a slightly more left-wing blairite think-tank than usual *rolls eyes*
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2024 13:51 (five months ago) link
only one at my polling station when I just voted
― nxd, Thursday, 4 July 2024 13:55 (five months ago) link
... dogs or voters?
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 13:57 (five months ago) link
Harman’s constituency has been split between 5 of the new seats - the Labour candidate for the bit I’m in is R Reeves’s sister.
― Tim, Thursday, 4 July 2024 14:06 (five months ago) link
I voted around half 7, it was quiet
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 14:18 (five months ago) link
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 14:40 (five months ago) link
pic.twitter.com/wlm4vdxzI7— Tony Robinson (@Tony_Robinson) July 4, 2024
was going to vote, but I bumped into this cunt and decided to go on a murder spree instead.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 14:45 (five months ago) link
I didn’t vote but I wasn’t going to anyway. My polling station is quiet but that’s normal for this time of day. Previously when I’ve voted there - always in the morning before work - it’s been brisk and it’s usually busy in the evening after people finish work until closing.I was travelling around all day - not working today - and kept seeing what I realised were Labour signs in people’s gardens with the huge Union flag emblems. I kept mistaking them for Tories - depressing. We got a load of last minute election literature through the door yesterday, all delivered by the same person. We didn’t get them but I heard that there’s some “pro-life” group posting literature with unborn babies on the front or something, so cool reminder that it actually can always get worse. Might have been the H3r1tag3 party - bunch of fucking fascists.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 14:49 (five months ago) link
Voted. Station had a small number of voters. Is it usual for someone to ask for your address outside?
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 July 2024 14:52 (five months ago) link
I was asked for my address but that was so they could tell me which queue to join
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:05 (five months ago) link
xxp I got a last minute leaflet from Labour, from Keir himself reminding me he'd changed the Labour party just in case I forgot and was going to vote for them by mistake
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:06 (five months ago) link
No, I don't mean at the tables, I mean outside the station after voting
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:09 (five months ago) link
oh after, no. I did mean outside, I was asked outside when I got there, so they could direct me to the right queue. but that was before I voted, not after
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:10 (five months ago) link
I've heard that when you're asked outside it's so they can cross off known supporters of whichever party they are working for, so they can potentially send someone round to cajole people who haven't voted yet, but that seems a bit dubious to me
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:13 (five months ago) link
I think that must be it, when I asked why he needed my address he said so we can remind you to vote. I said it was okay I've voted, but he persisted, still mumbling that he wanted my address, and I declined.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:18 (five months ago) link
I got asked my polling number, or whatever you call it, by a Corbyn canvasser before I went in. I said, don't worry I'm voting for him.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:19 (five months ago) link
They're called "tellers" and they're gauging the level of the vote for particular parties
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:21 (five months ago) link
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/sites/default/files/2023-02/Tellers%20guidance%20EA22.pdf
― mark s, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:25 (five months ago) link
cheers
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:27 (five months ago) link
i would have had no problem telling the who i'd voted for, but that wasn't what he asked me
From Survation
Final probabilistic seat count:
Labour: 470 (-5)Conservative: 68 (+4)Liberal Democrats: 59 (-1)Scottish National Party: 14 (+1)Reform UK: 15 (+2)Green Party: 4 (+1)Plaid Cymru: 3 (-1)
MRP Final UpdateWe published our final polling call last night based on our telephone poll conducted between the 1st and the 3rd of July, alongside an updated set of MRP estimates.Overnight, we ran the model again, which now includes the final responses collected by telephone… pic.twitter.com/D5fOllAySA— Survation. (@Survation) July 4, 2024
― djmartian, Thursday, 4 July 2024 16:33 (five months ago) link
lmao Reform 15 c'mon
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 16:38 (five months ago) link
lived in this place for 23 years has been an ultra safe tory seat all the time.now we have been put into a different constituency where it's a lot more balanced and our votes could make a difference re the top 2.had to go for the tactical option.also, got a LOT more literature than ever before, and even my very first door knock canvasing last sunday.has felt weird given the complete lack of need/interest in 23 years.also, was mk2s' first time voting and he has really got into the whole researching options etc.suspect he will even be staying up for the exit poll. i am sure he will get disillioned in due course, but hey ..
― mark e, Thursday, 4 July 2024 16:43 (five months ago) link
healthy dose of scepticism required for my predictions since I’ve not read the news for 5 years but why not:
LAB majority (395 v CON 165?)SNP better than predicted (30-33?)corbyn holddebonnaire losssunak lossshaheen loss + IDS lossfarage wintruss holdturnout lower than 2010LAB votes lower than 2019 👀 2017
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 4 July 2024 17:08 (five months ago) link
Reform have crumbled like an underfired mug with hot coffee just poured into it
― Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2024 17:10 (five months ago) link
Ugh reform
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 17:21 (five months ago) link
I did the thing. Was expecting some canvassers but I forgot nobody cares what happens around here.
― emil.y, Thursday, 4 July 2024 17:29 (five months ago) link
LOL talk about a one party state! Putin would be delighted to have those numbers.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 17:29 (five months ago) link
It’s fine because every 10-15 years we get to change the party to a slightly different one
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 4 July 2024 17:40 (five months ago) link
Voted
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Thursday, 4 July 2024 18:02 (five months ago) link
Some Other Predictions:
Labour leads in the final Westminster polls, by pollster:
20 Survation20 Opinium20 People Polling19 Savanta19 Lord Ashcroft19 Techne19 Redfield & Wilton18 WeThink17 Deltapoll17 Whitestone Insight17 BMG15 Verian15 JL Partners14 More in Common13 Norstat
📈Labour leads in the final Westminster polls, by pollster: 20 Survation20 Opinium20 People Polling19 Savanta19 Lord Ashcroft19 Techne19 Redfield & Wilton18 WeThink17 Deltapoll17 Whitestone Insight17 BMG15 Verian15 JL Partners14 More in Common13 Norstat— Will Jennings (@drjennings) July 3, 2024
Lucy Fisher (FT)
XC: The Tories’ *own internal forecast* by the end of today is that they will confidently hold around 80 seats, while a further 60 are in play, acc to a senior party insider
EXC: The Tories’ *own internal forecast* by the end of today is that they will confidently hold around 80 seats, while a further 60 are in play, acc to a senior party insider That means even on an optimistic scenario tomorrow, Conservatives would only return 140 MPs - fewer…— Lucy Fisher (@LOS_Fisher) July 3, 2024
Electoral Calculus:
Electoral Calculus: LAB 453 (38.8%) | CON 78 (21.8%) | LIB 67 (11.0%) | Reform 7 (16.4) | Green 3 (6.3%) | SNP 19 (3.1%) | PlaidC 3 (0.6%) | ◽️Other 2 (2.1%)
Electoral Calculus: 🌹LAB 453 (38.8%) | 🌳CON 78 (21.8%) | 🔸LIB 67 (11.0%) | ➡️Reform 7 (16.4) | 🌍Green 3 (6.3%) | 🎗️SNP 19 (3.1%) | 🌼PlaidC 3 (0.6%) | ◽️Other 2 (2.1%) https://t.co/GhF3kKlZsj— Politico Digital UK (@PoliDigitalUK) July 4, 2024
Stats for Lefties:
🚨 FINAL FORECAST FOR #GE2024 ― Labour majority🔴 LAB 456 (+256)🔵 CON 80 (-292)🟠 LD 65 (+57)🟡 SNP 21 (-27)🟢 GRN 4 (+3)🟢 PC 3 (+1)🟣 REF 2 (+2) pic.twitter.com/pKz3ycVdgZ— Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️⚧️ (@LeftieStats) July 3, 2024
Stats for Lefties own forecast based on aggregated data
LAB 456 (+256)
CON 80 (-295)
LD 65 (+57)
SNP 21 (-27)
GRN 4 (+3)
REF 2 (+2)
OTH 19 (-)
New Statesman / Britian Elects:
LAB: 40.6%, 418 MPs (+237)CON: 20.6%, 114 MPs (-277)REF: 15.8%, 6 MPs (+6)LD: 11.4%, 63 MPs (+55)GRE: 6.0%, 4 MPs (+3)SNP: 33.0%*, 23MPs (-25)PC: 12.6%*, 3 MPs (+1)Other: 5.3%, 1 MP
These are the @NewStatesman / @BritainElects final seat predictions for the 2024 UK general election:LAB: 40.6%, 418 MPs (+237)CON: 20.6%, 114 MPs (-277)REF: 15.8%, 6 MPs (+6)LD: 11.4%, 63 MPs (+55)GRE: 6.0%, 4 MPs (+3)SNP: 33.0%*, 23MPs (-25)PC: 12.6%*, 3 MPs (+1)Other:…— The New Statesman (@NewStatesman) July 3, 2024
Election Maps:
Eve of Poll Nowcast (03/07):
LAB: 436 (+236) - 39.7%CON: 101 (-271) - 22.0%LDM: 66 (+58) - 11.1%SNP: 17 (-31) - 2.9%GRN: 4 (+3) - 6.5%PLC: 4 (+2) - 0.6%RFM: 3 (+3) - 16.2%Others: 0 (=) - 1.1%
+ NI (18) & Speaker (1).
LAB Maj of 222.
🚨 || Eve of Poll Nowcast (03/07):LAB: 436 (+236) - 39.7%CON: 101 (-271) - 22.0%LDM: 66 (+58) - 11.1%SNP: 17 (-31) - 2.9%GRN: 4 (+3) - 6.5%PLC: 4 (+2) - 0.6%RFM: 3 (+3) - 16.2%Others: 0 (=) - 1.1% + NI (18) & Speaker (1).LAB Maj of 222.https://t.co/Y304WEsKwv pic.twitter.com/BC8a4ZSwzZ— Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) July 3, 2024
JL Partners (Polling Company)
Labour 442Conservative 111Liberal Democrats 58SNP 15PC 3Green 1Reform UK 1
https://t.co/D3gEHeEHQG
🚨LABOUR SET FOR A 234 SEAT MAJORITY🚨@JLPartnersPolls final SRP seat estimates:🔴 Labour 442🔵 Conservative 111🟠 Liberal Democrats 58🟡 SNP 15🏴 PC 3🟢 Green 1🟣 Reform UK 1https://t.co/D3gEHeEHQG pic.twitter.com/62LyygEmJ6— Callum Hunter (@Callum_L_Hunter) July 3, 2024
Focal Data (Polling Company)
Seat countsLabour: 444 (-6 since last week)Conservative: 108 (-2)Lib Dem: 57 (+7)SNP: 15 (-1)Reform: 2 (+1)Plaid: 2 (-)Green: 1 (-)
🚨 Our final MRP poll of the election campaign indicates that Labour are on course for a record-breaking 444 seats.Seat countsLabour: 444 (-6 since last week)Conservative: 108 (-2)Lib Dem: 57 (+7)SNP: 15 (-1)Reform: 2 (+1)Plaid: 2 (-)Green: 1 (-)https://t.co/IwXIclr113 pic.twitter.com/RuUuEgvY1P— Focaldata (@focaldataHQ) July 3, 2024
YouGov (Polling Company)
The final YouGov MRP projection
Labour: 431 (+229)Con: 102 (-263)Lib Dem: 72 (+61)SNP: 18 (-30)Reform UK: 3 (+3)Plaid: 3 (-1)Green: 2 (+1)
🚨 BREAKING: The final YouGov MRP projection Labour: 431 (+229)Con: 102 (-263)Lib Dem: 72 (+61)SNP: 18 (-30)Reform UK: 3 (+3)Plaid: 3 (-1)Green: 2 (+1)Fieldwork: 19 June - 2 July— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) July 3, 2024
Ben Ansell (Politics Professor at Oxford University) Nuffield & Oxford
Labour with 440, the Conservatives with 85, Liberal Democrats with 70, SNP with 28, Reform with 6, the Greens with 1, and Plaid with 1. Don’t know about Northern Ireland, sorry.
see detailed thread:
Here’s what you get. Labour on 433, Cons on 91. Lib Dem’s not far behind on 70 and SNP on 35. One each for Greens and PC. But but but… 5/n pic.twitter.com/W0aBfplGPV— Ben Ansell (@benwansell) July 3, 2024
More In Common (Polling Company)
and the most optimistic tory prediction provided by More In Common
Labour majority of 210 & worst defeat in Tory Party historyLAB 430 (+228)CON 126 (-239) LD 52 (+41)SNP 16 (-32)REF UK 2 (+2)GRN 1 (-)PLAID 2 (-2)OTH 2 (+2)
🏁 Our final @moreincommon_ @TheNewsAgents MRP projects a Labour majority of 210 & worst defeat in Tory Party history🔴LAB 430 (+228)🔵CON 126 (-239) 🟠LD 52 (+41)🟡SNP 16 (-32)🟣REF UK 2 (+2)🟢GRN 1 (-)🟢 PLAID 2 (-2)⚪️ OTH 2 (+2)N 13,556 | 24/6 to 1/7 pic.twitter.com/pU1iQy0bGF— Luke Tryl (@LukeTryl) July 3, 2024
― djmartian, Thursday, 4 July 2024 18:35 (five months ago) link
Real shame lib dems are not going to be official opposition: Starmer and Davey could've bored us to death on PMQs every week around rejoining EU.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 18:38 (five months ago) link
Pollsters just picking random numbers for SNP and Reform and hoping they stick.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 18:51 (five months ago) link
ed paragliding in through the ever-larger holes in the HoP's ceiling
― mark s, Thursday, 4 July 2024 18:54 (five months ago) link
on the phone to the Guinness Book of Records to see if Channel 4's election coverage tonight can get in as most soul destroying tv broadcast of all time
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:03 (five months ago) link
They've got Dorries so...still better than best friends Balls and Osborne on ITV
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:20 (five months ago) link
Osborne should be in the fucking Tower
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:24 (five months ago) link
Didn't dorries push for shutting down c4?
― nxd, Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:24 (five months ago) link
C4 is the only one I can watch from the US! On its live YouTube channel…
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:26 (five months ago) link
there is some coverage on bbc.com as well but it won't tell me what from here
― koogs, Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:36 (five months ago) link
there's an independent candidate here called Kombat Diva and nowhere on the internet has any info on them, lol
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:36 (five months ago) link
Sky News also on YouTube, unless it's geoblocked, suzy
― Alba, Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:37 (five months ago) link
It seems quite expensive to run an anti-campaign just to give your mates a laugh
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:40 (five months ago) link
― nxd,
very much so mainly cos ch4 had ice chaired her unrequited lover, i.e. boris, on a panel/discussion show that he didn't turn up for.
― mark e, Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:44 (five months ago) link
When are the general election results expected? Estimated timings for every constituencyhttps://inews.co.uk/news/general-election-timings-results-3148815
― djmartian, Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:37 (five months ago) link
Our constituency has been Tory since 2010, with polling suggesting it could go Lib Dem. The Labour candidate has basically been invisible as it's not a target seat. Was gonna vote Green as a) I know her and like her and b) all the other Lib Dem candidates since we moved here have been hopeless. Watched the local candidate hustings on YouTube (63 views when I played it a week after it had been uploaded!),and this Lib Dem sorta seems competent enough on local issues. As I'd rather have LDs as official opposition in HoC, it ended up being quite an easy choice.
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:40 (five months ago) link
In the previous 2 elections I needed a load of booze to face the exit-poll dread, stone cold sober tonight.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:47 (five months ago) link
yeah at least I don't have to expect a bad surprise when I wake up tomorrow, I know what's happening
except not really re: Corbyn but I'm not staying up till 3am for that sorry Jeremy
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:50 (five months ago) link
Wondering why elections make me quite so anxious and I think it's basically trauma from 1992, 2015 and 2019. Especially 1992 because it was such a formative age and such a shock. 2015 I was in China and had a horrible performance review at work the next day.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:57 (five months ago) link
i've just opened a bottle of my friend's home brew wine but tbh i'm already sleepy, let's see how long i can be arsed for
VOICEOVER: he was arsed until the first exit poll was announced
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:57 (five months ago) link
oh no, Kwarsi "off your head" Kwarteng is on the C4 panel
― djmartian, Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:58 (five months ago) link
The exit poll has ruined election nights, it's too accurate these days.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:59 (five months ago) link
Reform 13! SNP 10!
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:00 (five months ago) link
ffs
SNOOOOOORE
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:00 (five months ago) link
Tories losing will be nice, Tories + Reform coming second would be better, Tories + Reform coming third would be best (but I'm aware I'm dreaming)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:01 (five months ago) link
That’s not exactly the bloodbath predicted
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:02 (five months ago) link
Like people were totally losing the run of themselves predicting the Tories would be reduced to double digits
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:03 (five months ago) link
really bad for SNP. GGs
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:03 (five months ago) link
I'm disappointed in Scotland for voting for these cunts
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:03 (five months ago) link
yeah it's a pretty boring prediction
obv nobody will mention the turnout
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:03 (five months ago) link
NV have you gone out for snacks yet and if so what
I think Survation will looking at some redundancies tomorrow.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:04 (five months ago) link
i don't have tons of snacks in tbh, i had a big bowl of ramen when i got home and i'm not very hungry lately. got some goats cheese and olives in the kitchen just in case, some spicy honey crisps which are kinda so-so
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:05 (five months ago) link
Ray's raspberry and redcurrant wine is quite pleasing tho
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:06 (five months ago) link
Lab couldn't even get Tories to < 100, like we were promised
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:07 (five months ago) link
Right that's that done. TV off.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:07 (five months ago) link
🚨 Full exit poll breakdown: Labour: 410Conservatives: 131Liberal Democrats: 61SNP: 10Reform: 13Green: 2Plaid Cymru: 4Other: 19— PoliticsHome (@politicshome) July 4, 2024
― djmartian, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:08 (five months ago) link
BBC comically introducing Angela Rayner as somebody heading for government, yeah for 3 months tops
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:08 (five months ago) link
The real winners are the bbc who can have Farage on tv even more and point to wElL hE’s An ElEcTeD pOlItIcIan
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:10 (five months ago) link
is the estimated vote share for each party based on the exit poll available anywhere? or just the number of seats
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:11 (five months ago) link
This is where being over here is fun: clock the exit poll, settle back into Tour de France replay, watch a bit of the Argentina match later and then start watching coverage again around 7 pm my time/3 am yours to see whatever goes down officially.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:12 (five months ago) link
Vote share doesn’t translate into seats neatly because of fptp
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:13 (five months ago) link
I wasn't even going to watch it and was gonna go to bed early but a friend had unrelated good news today so we went for a drink and have ended up round a mate's house watching it. Idc really but am pretty tipsy so whatever
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:14 (five months ago) link
Sky News just now: Keir Starmer set to have lower vote share than Jeremy Corbyn in 2017— Hamza (@Hamza_a96) July 4, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:14 (five months ago) link
no Coop handy, thanks Kieth :(
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:15 (five months ago) link
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:13 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I know, but presumably the process by which they process the exit poll data to estimate seat numbers involves them estimating the vote share as well?
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:16 (five months ago) link
BBC tell us how Kombat Diva's doing you cowards
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:17 (five months ago) link
fuck me Mandelson Balls and Campbell across the 3 main channels it's like fucking Halloween
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:19 (five months ago) link
Didn't the exit poll say 13 OTH I reckon Kombat Diva's one of them
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:19 (five months ago) link
we can only hope
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:20 (five months ago) link
Looks like Labour's vote share is at the lower end of the poll spectruum 36/37%. Which would explain their lower seat total than some of MRPs were predicting.— Sam Freedman (@Samfr) July 4, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:23 (five months ago) link
Well, it's about 23:30 here in Calahonda, it looks like there won't be any "voteageddon" and Rishi is going to have to actually resign before he can nick off.
So, think I'll turn in. Will look in in the morning, cheers.
― Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:29 (five months ago) link
btw my bit for the duration of the next government will be posting "Change" every time they do some horrible murderous policy announcement straight out of the neolib playbook
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:30 (five months ago) link
exit poll suggests Carla Denyer has won
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:35 (five months ago) link
right so this is entirely the story of dissatisfaction with tories + vote splitting from reform then, keir has achieved nothing, and a tory/reform coalition would have enough % to beat them into 2nd?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:36 (five months ago) link
Did they do Islington north for the exit poll?
― plax (ico), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:37 (five months ago) link
For petty, personal reasons I want the exit poll to be as off the mark as possible however
― plax (ico), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:38 (five months ago) link
haven't seen any predictions for Islington North yet, BBC feigning a lack of interest of course
Labour probably with less total votes than 2019, this will be of no interest to the centre right cheerleaders obv
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:40 (five months ago) link
Corbyn is bound to lose because everything is shit and will be shit forever more.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:41 (five months ago) link
Exit poll has Islington North too close to callLabour activists were worried about it today— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) July 4, 2024
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:45 (five months ago) link
I would like to point out that the England team haven't lost a match at Euro 2024 under the Tories
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:47 (five months ago) link
I’m very interested to know the effect of Voter ID on turnout and how big it was. eg how much disenfranchisement happened and to whom
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:47 (five months ago) link
You can get seat by seat analysis of the exit poll on Sky. It says Islington North: too close to call.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:48 (five months ago) link
Apparently a lot of ppl never got their postal ballots either xp
― subpost master (wins), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:49 (five months ago) link
John Curtice, the Cryptkeeper of UK Politics Entertainment
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:49 (five months ago) link
Is that a moustache or just a badly lit top lip?
― Ed, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:51 (five months ago) link
what, on Kuenssberg?
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:53 (five months ago) link
Looking 'forward' to getting to know 10 or so Reform fashclowns for the first time from some point tomorrow. Can you imagine the state of 'em.
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:54 (five months ago) link
Today is the first day I’ve heard Rory Stewart speak. Without wanting to voice-shame anyone and apologies to anyone here who sounds like a constipated cartoon gnome but how has this cunt got a podcast
― crisp, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:55 (five months ago) link
youve noticed previously that people with *good* voices are on podcasts?
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:56 (five months ago) link
i had a big bowl of ramen when i got home and i'm not very hungry lately. got some goats cheese and olives in the kitchen just in case, some spicy honey crisps which are kinda so-so
best update of the night and maybe the best we can hope for
― crisp, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:57 (five months ago) link
Heard from a well placed source that Thangam Debonaire lost her shit with a Green voter she door knocked when she found out they had postal voted Green. “Don’t you understand you’re going to cost me my job!” and so on. Stunning, legendary behaviour.— Free Palestine 🇵🇸 ULEZbollah? I hardly knew her! (@soup_jihad) July 4, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:58 (five months ago) link
_i had a big bowl of ramen when i got home and i'm not very hungry lately. got some goats cheese and olives in the kitchen just in case, some spicy honey crisps which are kinda so-so_best update of the night and maybe the best we can hope for
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:00 (five months ago) link
well i've got the crisps out
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:00 (five months ago) link
xp saw a tweet earlier which suggests that Labour will simply nominate Debbonaire to the Lords which is lol lmao etc
feels like Thangam might've been hitting the Jägerbombs for a couple of weeks now
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:01 (five months ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:02 (five months ago) link
oh ffs Streeting's loose
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:02 (five months ago) link
Dan Jarvis has apparently lost his seat as well (to Reform), according to the exit poll?
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:03 (five months ago) link
I just ate a snickers
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:03 (five months ago) link
Remember when kieth was gonna abolish the lords
― subpost master (wins), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:03 (five months ago) link
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:05 (five months ago) link
Following the most important election of our lifetimes from afar and munching on ube-flavoured shortbread, if anyone fancies a food update from the Midwest
― PJ Scurvy (Matt #2), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:06 (five months ago) link
no he said polish the lords
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:06 (five months ago) link
Btw user felicity asked me a while back to explain Keith/Kieth etc and it’s one of those Twitter memes that’s so embedded I genuinely don’t remember the origin anymore - does anyone?
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:06 (five months ago) link
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:07 (five months ago) link
Ube is a purple yam that originated in the Philippines. Ube has a brown, bark-like exterior and vibrant purple flesh. Ube has a sweet, nutty flavor and aroma and is commonly used in desserts.
― PJ Scurvy (Matt #2), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:09 (five months ago) link
i'm not sure there's a proven ground zero for Kieth?
basically afaik it comes from - too dweebish to remember his name correctly + people often genuinely get the ei in Keir the wrong way round?
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:09 (five months ago) link
plus the magic growth ingredient - gallons of boiling melt piss
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:10 (five months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRrHIjoWcAApTvt?format=jpg&name=largexps ty Matt#2!
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:11 (five months ago) link
Ppl were misspelling keir as kier since the beginning, only half intentionally iirc, and he just seems like more like a Keith than he does anything to do with hardie, is my vague sense of the origin story
― subpost master (wins), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:11 (five months ago) link
ha, I remember the time when some melt posted that "Kieth" was classist
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:12 (five months ago) link
Inexplicable urge to watch results trickle in but without knowing who all but three of the Reform winners would be makes it tougher still.
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:14 (five months ago) link
LOL Scotland.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:14 (five months ago) link
🗳️ Projected share of the national vote:🔴 LAB 36.1% (+3.2)🔵 CON 25.8% (-18.9)🟣 REF 17.2% (+15.1)🟠 LD 9.4% (-2.4)🟢 GRN 6.1% (+3.3)🟡 SNP 2.6% (-1.4)Via @GBNEWS / @ElectCalculus pic.twitter.com/yhKN94NoeQ— Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️⚧️ (@LeftieStats) July 4, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:14 (five months ago) link
51.2% turnout in Sunderland South, huge endorsement
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:15 (five months ago) link
Remember when Scotland voted in all a whole lot of Tories when the Tory vote was falling everywhere else?
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:16 (five months ago) link
That’s like, what, 20% below EU referendum turnout?
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:16 (five months ago) link
Reform getting twice as many votes as Tories in Sunderland South
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:16 (five months ago) link
Corbyn got 40% of the vote in 2017 and ca. 150 seats less. Got to love British democracy.
REFCON w.43% - scary for LAB
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:16 (five months ago) link
in sunderland
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:17 (five months ago) link
yeah this might be the most fragile huge majority in history, good job Kieth is committed to electoral reform
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:18 (five months ago) link
so if exit poll is correct the Lib Dem share of the vote has gone down since 2019, but they've also gone from 11 to 61 seats
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:19 (five months ago) link
Since I am in Hove our snacks have been olives, tomatoes with some herbs on and I think some kind of omelette
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:20 (five months ago) link
i think the idea that PR is a panacea is absolute nonsense but when you see how the current system plays out i'm at least sympathetic to the nonsense
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:21 (five months ago) link
oh Colonel Poo just reminded me i've got some radishes in the fridge
Soref can you go read my post about vote share not translating into seats again and again until you stop posting this please? Thanks
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:22 (five months ago) link
The fun thing about the Irish voting system is you get to rank from your lead to most hated, and also observe the drawn out humiliation of a former big beast forced to wait for the seventh count to be elected
some of the monsters on my ballot today would've been hard to pick a worst
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:24 (five months ago) link
xps I understand how first past the post works, it just seems notable when it throws up counter-intuitive results like these
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:26 (five months ago) link
I’m eating monster munch and drinking vin jaune
― crisp, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:27 (five months ago) link
God I hate Wes Streeting. To him this is all because of who likes who and seemingly has absolutely nothing to do with actual policies or whats happening to the public.
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:28 (five months ago) link
I was home during the Irish Weeklong Festival of Democracy recently, hanging out with an old anarchist complaining bitterly that the Democracy in Ireland has failed so badly that he's had to go vote "and all the way down the ballot to rank the unaffiliated fash over the extremely affiliated fash"
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:30 (five months ago) link
Can it be coincidence that KBerg likes the same type of necklace as Truss?
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:30 (five months ago) link
You can buffer all the worst choices with a good swath of loonies, no hopers and well meaning single issue candidates - or at least you can in Australia
It’s most fun when you number every box
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Victorian-senate-paper-folded-01.png
― Ed, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:30 (five months ago) link
this stupid cunt never misses - a thread that will reverberate through history
First, we've no idea if that Reform number is right. Second, come on people what's the matter with you. After 14 years of the most egregious reactionary horror, we're about to get one of the most progressive parliaments in history.— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) July 4, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:31 (five months ago) link
What a fucking idiot.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:35 (five months ago) link
Andrea Leadsom has just told the BBC that the Tories lost because they were too woke— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) July 4, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:36 (five months ago) link
by my reckoning we could be on course for the lowest general election turnout since the introduction of universal male suffrage
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:39 (five months ago) link
This is 3rd term Blair. As a government, it's as dead on arrival as it gets.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:42 (five months ago) link
tories will figure this out quite quickly I reckon
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:45 (five months ago) link
they'll probably go thru a little internal blood-letting and they'll have to work out how to accommodate Reform but sure, the next GE looks very grim indeed
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:49 (five months ago) link
If you can’t get enough of the election coverage, they’re actually showing the 2029 UK results on French TV this Sunday.— CJQ (@camstaquinn) July 4, 2024
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:50 (five months ago) link
Exit poll forecasts Reform UK will win both Barnsley North and South.Reform's Barnsley North candidate Bob Lomas is suspended by Reform after it emerged he said black people should "get off [their] lazy arses" and stop acting "like savages".— Harry Horton (@harry_horton) July 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:53 (five months ago) link
Very funny how AI is in the brain of these ppl.
Harman has just correctly identified a problem with urban voters being disenfranchised by the electoral system, and then proposed AI as a solution. Should I just go to bed at this point— RopesToInfinity (@RopesToInfinity) July 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:55 (five months ago) link
maybe this wine is stronger than i thought cos i swear Mandelson's just said most Reform voters aren't racist
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:59 (five months ago) link
To paraphrase Mandelson "the people newly voting Reform aren't racist they're just a protest vote"
Sure, sure, the only 'protest' option on the ballot sure.
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:00 (five months ago) link
there's another Bob Lomas who writes psuedohistory books with titles like 'The Hiram Key: Pharaohs, Freemasonry, and the Discovery of the Secret Scrolls of Jesus', but the racist Reform candidate seems to be a different guy
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:01 (five months ago) link
“An electoral meteor has now struck planet Earth,” Mandelson told the BBC.
― groovemaaan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:01 (five months ago) link
In five years' time, we will have forgotten who Nigel Farage was.— John Rentoul (@JohnRentoul) June 6, 2014
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:03 (five months ago) link
i mean to be fair when you're deathless you have a shaky grip on the passage of time
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:03 (five months ago) link
Swearing every time Mandelson appears tbh
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:04 (five months ago) link
five years to Rentoul - the blink of an eye, a blood-sated yawn
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:04 (five months ago) link
Reform p much 2:1 on Tories again in Sunderland Central
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:06 (five months ago) link
How did “they’ve got nowhere else to go” work out the last time
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:07 (five months ago) link
i'm hearing Penny Mordaunt has been running amok round Torquay harbor swinging a big sword
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:08 (five months ago) link
Not sure about all these hot takes that that the UK is one election away from the French situation. Rassemblement National is a well-oiled machine that has taken decades to get where it is now, Reform is a shambolic fan club
― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:09 (five months ago) link
Tory + Reform vote share is bigger than Labour's, how's that for a hot take?
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:10 (five months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRrczADbMAYc-_X?format=jpg&name=large
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:11 (five months ago) link
Usual suspects on Meltbook being very nasty about ‘Corbynistas’ and baling up the straw men as fast as they can. I’m SO glad a couple of dozen people working for mediocre podcasts/men’s mags/‘90s comedy coattail riders are such fundamentally pathetic, unserious people. Just what the moment needs.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:11 (five months ago) link
lol gyac i was just typing that heartwarming story out
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:11 (five months ago) link
Literally everytime there’s very clear evidence of the depth of how deeply held and popular racist views are here pol rush to pretend it’s not real and it’s the fault of newspapers, tv etc etc. These are key actors but it doesn’t speak to the sense of WHITE entitlement some have.— Chardine Taylor Stone (@ChardineTaylor) July 4, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:13 (five months ago) link
Also every time UKIP/Brexit/Reform *do* get someone elected, they crash and burn because they’re lazy and venal shitepieces.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:13 (five months ago) link
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:16 (five months ago) link
i havent eaten since a poulet bonne femme at the airport several hours ago and its too late now
gyac otm xp but my update remains unchanged
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:18 (five months ago) link
No recession in that house
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:19 (five months ago) link
darraghmac are you sure Fizzles isn’t posting from your account rn
100%. it is a terrifyingly real possibility @ gyac.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:19 (five months ago) link
he said "at the airport" not "on the bin"
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:20 (five months ago) link
brutally short memories here. the shame!
― stirmonster, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:21 (five months ago) link
As climate change intensifies agricultural collapse and food price increases, etc. the blaming of all this on migrants coming to escape the worst of it is bound to increase.
Basically there will be a lot more 'shoot the boats' rhetoric.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:21 (five months ago) link
there is a furious wind outside here which I think is coming from the BBC
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:21 (five months ago) link
plus it will be the CONs who likely assimilate REF, rebrand (“we’ve reformed. let’s reform britain”) then deploy their machinery to crush SKSQC’s band of merry lickspittle xuntz
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:21 (five months ago) link
Reform might’ve gotten 50+ seats if it weren’t for a lot of polling stations being in primary schools.— Out of Context Everton (@nocontextEFC) July 4, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:22 (five months ago) link
three vicious comments, breaking 66% to me and 33% to fizzles, sky news are reporting he cannot find a safe seat
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:22 (five months ago) link
by safe seat do you mean the Fernet on the shelf?
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:24 (five months ago) link
labour appear to have only gotten a relatively small swing from 2019 and starmer is already rather unpopular. they seem to have no real plan to fix the uk's structural decline, only a bunch of right-wing garbage in continuity with the tories that won't solve anything. it isn't hard to see how that's going to be perfect conditions for the far right to surge further in 2029 - the main question will probably be how the tories fit into things in opposition - is their brand so damaged now that reform will be the only ones to gain from labour's failings? will they get their shit together but continue to split the vote with reform in a way that means labour is still competitive? will there be some sort of reform/tory merger & rebrand?
― ufo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:24 (five months ago) link
ok lol at that tweet
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:25 (five months ago) link
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac),
nah i mean from which to perch and eat chinese
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:27 (five months ago) link
Bin Chinese place closed, country’s finished mate
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:29 (five months ago) link
The woke Tories make you eat Chinese from a plate with a knife and a fork now instead of from the traditional bin
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:30 (five months ago) link
i'm hearing Labour plan to issue asbos to gangs of feral youths eating Chinese outside
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:31 (five months ago) link
they let Buckland do a massive speech and now he's back on the telly again what is this
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:36 (five months ago) link
everybody loves a Good Tory
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:39 (five months ago) link
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:41 (five months ago) link
BBC radio just said they thought Corbyn has won, pundits tried to say it was because he was the first one on the ballot paper due to it being in alphabetical order by surname.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:41 (five months ago) link
i can't take Jeremy Vine seriously when he's not dressed up as a cowboy
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:46 (five months ago) link
fr
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:50 (five months ago) link
Given the national picture, Labour nervousness in about 20 stronghold constituencies is all the more fascinating.Most of them have large Muslim populations where a protest vote against the way Sir Keir Starmer has dealt with the Gaza crisis could spoil the party for some Labour candidates, including a few big names.Polls have been tight here in Rochdale, where George Galloway is looking to defend his February by-election win, but also look out for results in various Birmingham, Lancashire and Bradford constituencies, as well as Luton North and South, Slough and Leicester South.Some independents standing on a Gaza platform are a threat and, of course, so is Galloway’s Workers Party of Britain here in Rochdale.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:56 (five months ago) link
Neil Kinnock now on Radio 4 calling Starmer "a gutsy radical"
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 00:00 (five months ago) link
bodyshaming is bad
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 00:02 (five months ago) link
turnout in Islington North is 67.5%, a good 10% higher than anywhere that's declared so far
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 00:03 (five months ago) link
tbf while I wasn't paying a lot of attention to politics in 1992 I vaguely recall Kinnock being portrayed as a dangerous communist. the cycle of life
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 5 July 2024 00:03 (five months ago) link
I've got to get up for work at 5:45. I really should have gone to bed by now.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 5 July 2024 00:09 (five months ago) link
same. but I have gone to bed (at 10:30) and still can't sleep.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 00:11 (five months ago) link
Have a drink.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 5 July 2024 00:21 (five months ago) link
Wow, our Lib Dem has actually booted out our Tory after 14 years.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 00:52 (five months ago) link
7312 votes for Feinstein in Holburn and SP, one less than there should have been.
― Ed, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:00 (five months ago) link
Corbyn has won says X, not heard it yet on TV though.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:04 (five months ago) link
Shapps is out, biggest scalp thus far.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:09 (five months ago) link
Labour split saves Duncan Smith, wow, he got lucky.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:12 (five months ago) link
Fucking hell, Jezza’s smashed it!
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:25 (five months ago) link
Where are you seeing this!?!? I'm dying here
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 02:26 (five months ago) link
After all that, not even close from Labour.
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:27 (five months ago) link
was just on bbc
Jez speech brutally cut from the coverage to give us this racist frog
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:29 (five months ago) link
24k to 16k - that'll send me off to sleep happy here.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:29 (five months ago) link
Lol fuck you curtice
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 02:29 (five months ago) link
So happy
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 02:30 (five months ago) link
Nigel Farage - It’s The BBC Wot Won It.
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:30 (five months ago) link
Oh we get the whole Farage speech do we
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:30 (five months ago) link
they did go back to the Corbyn speech, surprisingly.
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:36 (five months ago) link
I'm so happy
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 02:37 (five months ago) link
Electrifying acceptance speech from JC there, the first mentions all night for the stuff that matters most.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:39 (five months ago) link
Also big vote shares for independents. Faiza Shaheen had almost as many as the labour right opportunist they booted her for, big numbers for feinstein and lol ashworth losing his seat. Islington north of course.
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 02:40 (five months ago) link
Wonder what Shockat is like, presumably he has something about him
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:43 (five months ago) link
Starmer falling by 17% is warming even if it leaves him with 50%
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 02:45 (five months ago) link
Curtice spelling out that Cons are mostly losing votes to Reform, Lab share not up very much at all. Also cutting forecast of Lab landslide to a somewhat more modest level.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:47 (five months ago) link
How did Badenoch get so lucky? Not heard that explained.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:48 (five months ago) link
Corbyn doing better in his seat than starmer in his is very enjoyable
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 02:50 (five months ago) link
Fucking hell, and ditto for Braverman.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:51 (five months ago) link
yay piss off Thangam :D
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:52 (five months ago) link
It’s the Reform adjacent Cons who are scraping through. Seriously worried about Rees-Mogg now.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:53 (five months ago) link
Blatant leadership pitch there from Braverman.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:55 (five months ago) link
yes yes , Jonathan Ashworth unseated.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:02 (five months ago) link
Ha ha, Keith Vaz, Claudia Webbe and the official Labour candidate all standing in Leicester East. Tory gain?https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/07/disgraced-keith-vaz-kicked-out-of-labour-as-he-stands-for-one-leicester-party― Alba, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:56 (four weeks ago)
― Alba, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:56 (four weeks ago)
Actually happened
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:02 (five months ago) link
Anushka Asthana on ITV pushing back against the narrative that Muslims are single-issue voters: that when she talked to people in places in Leicester things like the two-child benefit cap came up as often as Gaza.
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:07 (five months ago) link
Greens have a third seat!!
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:08 (five months ago) link
Mordaunt the biggest scalp since Shapps, but that was close.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:10 (five months ago) link
Thangam absolutely crushed
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:10 (five months ago) link
delicious to see Mordaunt go.
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:11 (five months ago) link
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:08 (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this was fake news :(
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:14 (five months ago) link
My MP was truly excellent. Hardest working MP I have known by far in almost 40 years living in this constituency (once upon a time we had George Galloway!) I voted for her despite having no love for the SNP. She lost to an old school Scottish Labour fuck brought back from cryogenic storage. So depressing! Scotland regresses.
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:15 (five months ago) link
it's hilarious that Galloway didn't even turn up at Rochdale because he's a sorearsed loser!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:20 (five months ago) link
"Thangam absolutely crushed"
her copium was so amusing as far back as a month ago when she was polling 13pts behind the greens
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:23 (five months ago) link
It’s got to the stage where I’m barely blinking as people like Coffey and Mercer getter chop.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:25 (five months ago) link
most devastating thing is streeting only winning his seat by 500 votes
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:26 (five months ago) link
“get the chop” NOT DRUNK
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:27 (five months ago) link
Leics South here. I knew something was up when I got a "plz vote Labour" leaflet thru my door in the afternoon, their exit polls must have scared them
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:27 (five months ago) link
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:26 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
20ppt drop
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:29 (five months ago) link
fuck, we so nearly did it
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:32 (five months ago) link
wait who came second (not that it matters)
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:33 (five months ago) link
oh yes a similar deal to Shockat
yeah pro-palestine independent campaigning against nhs privatisation
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:35 (five months ago) link
aww
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:38 (five months ago) link
Sunak and Hunt hold their seats
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:41 (five months ago) link
Clear that Labour has, in the words of one source, "haemorrhaged" Muslim votes. Wes Streeting only just hangs on. Worried whispers about Birmingham Ladywood and Blackburn.— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) July 5, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:43 (five months ago) link
Yardley not called yet, would love it if Babs got dumped!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:47 (five months ago) link
Hunt almost sounding like he wants to defect!
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:49 (five months ago) link
Which big name Cons are still undeclared? Can only think of Rees-Mogg. Braverman Badenoch and Hunt are the biggest survivors I think.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:52 (five months ago) link
oh yes Blackburn + Dewsbury + Batley gone to independents
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:55 (five months ago) link
Oh, Jenrick got through, missed that.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:56 (five months ago) link
I'm just glad my local mp is not some corporate creepazoid parachuted in by McSweeney
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:58 (five months ago) link
Andrea Jenkyns lost her seat
Cleverly and Patel results still to come
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:58 (five months ago) link
Rees Mogg out
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:01 (five months ago) link
We can all take that at least.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:01 (five months ago) link
My boy went outside for a spliff at just the wrong moment.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:03 (five months ago) link
Then again, he’s not really missing much.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:04 (five months ago) link
I'm more concerned about these evil cunts who are forming the next government. The shallow support and failure of some of the pro-genocide cowards and corporate parachutees is at least a warning to them that this is a fragile majority.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 04:06 (five months ago) link
Greens win third seat in North Herefordshire!
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:08 (five months ago) link
Oh, Starmer’s Secret London Location is the Turbine Hall.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:09 (five months ago) link
weird speech from SKSQC
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 5 July 2024 04:09 (five months ago) link
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Leanne Mohamad looked really impressive. Shame people elected that turd for the last time.
BREAKING: Labour have lost a further two seats to pro-Gaza Independent Candidates.Blackburn and Dewsbury and Batley.The party has already lost Leicester South.Birmingham Ladywood also looking tight.— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:10 (five months ago) link
lots of white people waving flags
― koogs, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:10 (five months ago) link
Fuck, sigh.
Jess Phillips has held on by 700 votes in Birmingham Yardley.— Sam Freedman (@Samfr) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:12 (five months ago) link
ohh no way, fuck off!
I knew they were going to lose B+D but not as heavily as they did, the parachuted-in Labour creep only got 20 odd % loool
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 04:12 (five months ago) link
Awesome.
Thank you Coventry South ❤️I am honoured beyond words to be re-elected to Parliament — now with a 10,201 vote majority.I will continue to use my voice to fight for social justice, for peace and equality, and for a better future for us all.— Zarah Sultana (@zarahsultana) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:13 (five months ago) link
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:14 (five months ago) link
woah!
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:14 (five months ago) link
Crikey. Every focus group we've done in the area suggests Wes is hugely popular, so I think this really does show that Labour have a bigger problem on the left - driven by Gaza than we thought. https://t.co/w26nAg2sd3— Luke Tryl (@LukeTryl) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:15 (five months ago) link
Fiona Bruce wandering round the Turbine Hall like a lost soul, you’d think she’d have a crew.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:15 (five months ago) link
Lol omg
🚨 Shadow Cabinet minister Jonathan Ashworth has LOST his seat to pro-Gaza independent Shockat Adam⚪️ Adam 35.2% (+35.2)🔴 LAB 32.9% (-35.3)🔵 CON 11.5% (-10.3)🟢 GRN 9.1% (+5.8)🟣 REF 5.9% (+3.6)🟠 LD 3.4% (-0.9) pic.twitter.com/BVrwW3wThE— Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️⚧️ (@LeftieStats) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:17 (five months ago) link
there's three seats that labour's lost to pro-palestine independents so far (not including corbyn), shame streeting and phillips didn't lose too though but surely next time?
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:19 (five months ago) link
Yeah they are cooked surely
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:20 (five months ago) link
Streeting gave a weird interview just before I went to sleep. Totally explains it as he knew it was tight.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:21 (five months ago) link
couldn't have happened to nicer people, two of them prominent frontbenchers who were set for cabinet positions.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 04:21 (five months ago) link
Can't enjoy this at all.
RESULT Suffolk Coastal:Thérèse COFFEY - Conservative 14,602Julian CUSACK - Green 4,380Julia EWART - Liberal Democrat 6,947Matthew JACKSON - Reform UK 7,850Jenny RIDDELL-CARPENTER - Labour 15,672 *ELECTED*Labour GAIN from ConservativeTotal votes cast 49,636Turnout 66.6%— East Suffolk Council (@EastSuffolk) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:26 (five months ago) link
Mogg, Morduant, Mercer. Just feeling zilch.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:28 (five months ago) link
Waveney Valley the remaining seat I'm most interested in I think. If the Greens could somehow have as many MPs as Reform that'd be a small thing
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:30 (five months ago) link
Man Faiza would've won.
Reminder that people do notice when you fuck around with candidate selections to try and get your pals in. https://t.co/TU5II9h8wx— Simon (@simonk133) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:31 (five months ago) link
Lammy, Streeting, Reeves - just as despicably evil as any of them
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 04:32 (five months ago) link
Turnout is a fucking disgrace. What a sham.
Likely this will be the lowest turnout in record #GeneralElection2024 pic.twitter.com/ATBARUBMEj— Mubin Haq (@Mubin_Haq) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:33 (five months ago) link
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Yup
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:34 (five months ago) link
great news!
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:34 (five months ago) link
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:35 (five months ago) link
it looks like the greens could have won more if they'd campaigned more broadly given the margins they've been winning by, but i get why they didn't
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:35 (five months ago) link
Weirdoes like Fabricant gone as Tory vote has merely gone to sleep..
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:37 (five months ago) link
Yes, Waveney Valley declared. Will allow myself to feel a tiny tiny bit chuffed. Good party man me
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:38 (five months ago) link
lowest ever turnout where i am.
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:39 (five months ago) link
They are not that far from Lib Dems and briefcase Lab in terms of strategy and not convinced they will tap onto things as climate events pile on. Something a lot, lot better is going to be needed, electorally.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:41 (five months ago) link
That's fair, but I'd say it's noticeable that the Green messaging has been a lot less melty than the last couple of times
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:43 (five months ago) link
Awesome. If this sham of a democracy had even thousands like him it would save this racist hell hole
Tonight, we made history. This is just the beginning. pic.twitter.com/tY1MdOAsjY— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:44 (five months ago) link
Oh, Liz Truss still to come too. Had forgotten about her!
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:47 (five months ago) link
Sadly this is our future. Lab run by Accenture...
All the odds were stacked against Jeremy Corbyn.He’s one of the only independents to win a competitive election in a general election since World War II.He started his campaign late because of loyalty to his old party. His constituency has a huge turnover.Labour threw…— Owen Jones (@OwenJones84) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:47 (five months ago) link
xp: Preston said she will lose but he's an idiot so..
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:48 (five months ago) link
Peston
He would have been one of the only independents to win if there weren't a bunch of others this time! Maybe they should team up. Still so sad about the Streeting challenger
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:49 (five months ago) link
Liam Fox out. I'd kind of forgotten about him altogether
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:51 (five months ago) link
my outside impression is that the gpew, while still nowhere near as solid as the australian greens, have gotten their act together a bit more in recent years and were more directly positioning themselves to the left of labour than they have in the past?
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:53 (five months ago) link
BBC ignoring Corbyn's speech (several tweets plus a post here talking about this) and going to Farage's speech is so our present. Maybe our future too
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:53 (five months ago) link
This is fucking brutal.
Jeremy Corbyn received over than 5,000 more votes in Islington North than Keir Starmer received in Holborn and St Pancras.— James Schneider (@schneiderhome) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:54 (five months ago) link
loathe to defend the BBC but they did go back and show his speech. x post
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:55 (five months ago) link
get it right up ye Douglas Ross
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 5 July 2024 04:56 (five months ago) link
I saw that too, but I think in the moment it would feel sad and symbolic of the amount of oxygen given to that creature xp
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:57 (five months ago) link
Faiza Shaheen looks ready to incinerate someone with the power of her stare alone— Stefan Bielik (@prstskrzkrk) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:59 (five months ago) link
agree.
and yes get it right up ye Douglas Ross indeed. glorious! x post
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:00 (five months ago) link
Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott now father and mother of the house
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:05 (five months ago) link
philip davis also gone. Sadly replaced by some Lab cunt
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:06 (five months ago) link
Faiza Shaheen kept IDS in his seat. So congrats on that.— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) July 5, 2024
crazy guy
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:09 (five months ago) link
Reading about NI politics and..
The story of the night in Northern Ireland has to be the defeat of Ian Paisley in North Antrim, a seat held by the Paisley family since 1970 1/— Mark Devenport (@markdevenport) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:09 (five months ago) link
SF the biggest party now
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:11 (five months ago) link
Green do have some non-melts. They will surge even more in inner cities.
🥈 2nd in Lewisham North. 📊 21.9% of total vote share. 🥀 38% of Labours vote. 📈 16.6% increase in Green vote share.💪🏼 More votes than the Tories, Lib Dems, Reform, Workers, AGS, Communist & Indi combined.✅ Most Green votes ever. 💚 Biggest Green vote share ever. https://t.co/G43NzoTupq— Adam Pugh (@AdamPugh) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:13 (five months ago) link
Who are the 2000+ voters choosing the Green over Corbyn? Was that candidate really more progressive then Jezza - what am I missing?
― Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:15 (five months ago) link
There absolutely won't be any. The collapse of the focus group will go hand in hand with the collapse of the state.
There have been 4 pro-Gaza Independent candidates elected so far. The same number as Reform MPs. That's big and totally unexpected. It deserves coverage and analysis.— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:15 (five months ago) link
Man so close.
Wes Streeting asked on @bbc5live ‘how did a 23 year old independent give you a scare’. He couldn’t even congratulate @LeanneMohamad on her fantastic campaign, instead saying there was a ‘dirty’ and ‘ugly’ campaign. Horrible person. Let’s make sure Leanne kicks him out next time.— Ahmed Sewehli (@LibyanIntegrity) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:18 (five months ago) link
Greens hold on in Brighton Pavilion, so that is 4 seat now.
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:18 (five months ago) link
Clue might be in their name!
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:19 (five months ago) link
Indeed.
NEW: Sinn Fein are officially the largest Westminster party in Northern Ireland - 2 more seats to declare in NI but DUP cannot now win as many or more seats than SF. This a historic hat trick for SF (local, Stormont, Westminster).— Beth Rigby (@BethRigby) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:22 (five months ago) link
Labour a massive beneficiary of the first past the post system this election cycle - two thirds of the seats on only one third of the vote. So many seats they would have lost under any kind of preferential voting system.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:23 (five months ago) link
You'd have more melty greens and Reform racists!
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:25 (five months ago) link
But there are joys.
Scenes of jubilance and despair at the count pic.twitter.com/q6ziAAyi3o— Priyanka Raval (@PriyRaval) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:27 (five months ago) link
And no independents xpost
― Mark G, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:29 (five months ago) link
Look at this cunt, lying she voted for a ceasefire.
Labour Party candidate Thangam shouts at a resident over a question about selling arms to Israel at the Bristol central hustings https://t.co/dBZgrZJadp pic.twitter.com/qt4fsDItOn— Danica Priest🍃💚🍃 (@DanicaPriest) July 1, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:30 (five months ago) link
ha ha, great reaction shot, I'll have a pint of thangham bitter pls
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:30 (five months ago) link
Jeremy Corbyns acceptance speech in Islington North pic.twitter.com/lOXXpMWS2z— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:41 (five months ago) link
His voice cracking with emotion at the "I owe my life and my learning to the people"...is what we could've had.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:44 (five months ago) link
Truss appears not to have turned up to her vote count
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:44 (five months ago) link
fucked off to bed around half one, i guess these results are marginally more pleasant than anticipated
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:45 (five months ago) link
Truss gone
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:49 (five months ago) link
Did Galloway retain his seat?
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:54 (five months ago) link
nope, and he flounced off in a huff as soon as he'd found out he'd lost
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:57 (five months ago) link
probably pissed up somewhere blaming the transes as we speak
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:59 (five months ago) link
This is very enjoyable too. Fuck this transphobe
Joanna Cherry - one of the highest-profile SNP MPs - has lost the Edinburgh South West seat which she had held since 2015. https://t.co/ONKBE5Fsop pic.twitter.com/neWlICUU8I— BBC Scotland News (@BBCScotlandNews) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 06:01 (five months ago) link
the repellent slimeball Jonathan Ashworth losing has really pleased me. In '19 he was undermining Corbyn to journos during the election campaign and now he realises the nice majority he enjoyed un JC didn't happen because voters liked him.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 06:11 (five months ago) link
un= under
All votes verified in Islington North. Turnout = 67.5 %— Isabel Loubser (@isabel__loubser) July 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 06:16 (five months ago) link
This is the bizarre interview from earlier. He was shitting himself.
prepare for the longest nautical metaphor you’ll hear today pic.twitter.com/GMb7LwqgyF— Scott Bryan (@scottygb) July 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 06:23 (five months ago) link
Cunt will he eyeing a safe seat in five years time.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 06:24 (five months ago) link
Easy peasy for Corbz, it's Bobby Gillespie's endorsement what won it.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 5 July 2024 06:43 (five months ago) link
classic liz truss
― mookieproof, Friday, 5 July 2024 06:52 (five months ago) link
In Starmer's speech he mentioned the country coming before the party a couple of times and spent the rest it talking about the Labour Party. This guy won't last till the next election.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 5 July 2024 06:54 (five months ago) link
D E M O C R A C Y
John Curtice: Labour's vote share is "up by just under 2% across the UK. This is entirely as a result of a 19% increase in support in Scotland. In Wales, the party's vote has actually fallen back by 4%, while in England it is largely unchanged on 2019." https://t.co/JUyoAgMbi7— Jon Stone (@joncstone) July 5, 2024
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 5 July 2024 06:55 (five months ago) link
all this tells you is corbyn could have scraped into downing street in 2019 if the brexit party hadn't stood down in half the country https://t.co/le2SDuxMJz— joolsd (@joolsd) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 06:56 (five months ago) link
I've been thinking the same.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 5 July 2024 06:59 (five months ago) link
Follow up post from that account is pretty good too
"reform/BP whatever were counting on at least one election like this where they absolutely blow up the right in parliament. their financial backers were genuinely afraid of corbyn so delayed it to this election. pretty simple really"
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 07:02 (five months ago) link
The more you dig into the stats for this election the more it's LOL British democracy.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 5 July 2024 07:19 (five months ago) link
Kieth fans keep telling me how unpopular Corbyn was
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 07:40 (five months ago) link
With 9 seats to call Labour were still down 600k votes on 2019!
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 5 July 2024 07:41 (five months ago) link
i'm hearing it's about quality voters not quantity
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 07:46 (five months ago) link
Turned on the TV this morning and within 5 mins 3 different labour bods used the phrase "country before party". Turned off the TV.
― oscar bravo, Friday, 5 July 2024 07:48 (five months ago) link
This is going to be a nice quotable stat, "you were down half a million votes on 2019, the only reason you won is that Reform/Brexit Party and tories didn't enter into a pact this time" - surely very easy for most people to understand?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 07:48 (five months ago) link
6 Seats to Go
Labour 420Con 119LD 71SNP 9Sinn Fein 7OTHER 28 - Including:
4 Reform4 Greens5 pro-Gaza Independent Left candidates have now been elected.
Shockat Adam MP for Leicester SouthIqbal Mohammed MP for Dewsbury and BatleyAdnan Hussain MP for BlackburnJeremy Corbyn MP for Islington NorthAyoub Khan MP for Birmingham Perry Bar
closest prediction was:
New Statesman / Britian Elects
― djmartian, Friday, 5 July 2024 07:51 (five months ago) link
correction
labour 410
― djmartian, Friday, 5 July 2024 07:52 (five months ago) link
and in Wales:
4 Plaid Cymru MPS
and no Tory MPS in Wales
― djmartian, Friday, 5 July 2024 07:55 (five months ago) link
Tell anyone: Corbyn nearly won, against Theresa May.
There were a lot of things going wrong for TM, she wasn't directly responsible for most of it but she handled everything badly. People don't want that.
Anyway, next election Labour pretty much ran their campaign the same way, but Tories aren't daft as now they had a better idea how to work against.
Just as much as it's a fool who does the same thing twice expecting a different result, it's just as bad a football team who won 2-0 playing the same team a week later expecting the same again.
Anyway, had a decent kip, seeing a bunch of highpoints is nice, but etc etc laters...
― Mark G, Friday, 5 July 2024 07:56 (five months ago) link
BBC's coverage of this landslide victory for Reform has been excellent
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 07:59 (five months ago) link
So, Ben Walker was the most accurate pollster.
Co-Founder of @BritainElects. Senior Data Journalist for the @NewStatesman
https://x.com/BNHWalker
― djmartian, Friday, 5 July 2024 08:08 (five months ago) link
9,650,254 votes. dismal stuff
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 5 July 2024 08:12 (five months ago) link
reminder, of some of the ghastly Tory MPs gone:
Some Tory MPs who lost tonight:Liz TrussGillian KeeganMichelle DonelanPenny MordauntJohnny MercerMark HarperAlex ChalkMark HarperLucy FrazerJacob Rees-MoggJonathan GullisBrendan Clarke-SmithAndrea JenkynsPhillip DaviesMiriam CatesGreg HandsMark Jenkinson— Sam Freedman (@Samfr) July 5, 2024
― djmartian, Friday, 5 July 2024 08:16 (five months ago) link
On that exit poll.
And kudos to @JoeCaluori, who was brave enough to call bullshit on the exit poll forecast of 13 Reform seats at 10.07pm last night pic.twitter.com/7ApoFC51WT— Dan Hancox (@danhancox) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 08:16 (five months ago) link
scorecard* LAB majority (395 v CON 165?) - a half point since the CON did get triple digits* SNP better than predicted (30-33?) - NOPE * corbyn hold - YES* debonnaire loss - LOL* sunak hold - YES* shaheen loss + IDS loss - half point* farage win - YES* truss hold - NO* turnout lower than 2010 - LOL* LAB votes lower than 2019 👀 2017 - LOL
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 5 July 2024 08:21 (five months ago) link
it's now possible to travel from Eastbourne to Berwick without going through a single tory seat.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 08:23 (five months ago) link
I think everyone said "They're not getting twelve!"
― Mark G, Friday, 5 July 2024 08:36 (five months ago) link
just realised Gomez cunt and Blur cunt both failed, today just keeps getting better
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 08:40 (five months ago) link
Also Posie Parker didn't even get 200 votes
Captain Beany - 618 votesKing Arthur Pendragon - 458 votesCount Binface - 308 votesPosie Parker - 196 votesYes these are all real, British politics is madBeans remain more popular than transphobia. Absolutely embarrassing result for Kellie-Jay "I never lose" Keen-Minshull pic.twitter.com/zzWU5vu0am— Katy Montgomerie 🦗 (@KatyMontgomerie) July 5, 2024
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 09:06 (five months ago) link
ladies and gentlemen:
LIXENBERGLore Ruth(Commonly Known As: Kombat Diva)
Music DeptWentworth CollegeHeslington, University of YorkYO10 5NG
https://www.lorelixenberg.art/the-voice-party
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 09:17 (five months ago) link
would love to have seen Chris Philp on the exit listhttps://www.swlondoner.co.uk/news/05072024-croydon-south-surprise-election
― pfutt, Friday, 5 July 2024 09:59 (five months ago) link
Guess it's time for a new UK pol thread
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 10:05 (five months ago) link
is it though
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 10:06 (five months ago) link
PM Cameron in Witney - no longer a Conservative seatPM May in Maidenhead - no longer a Conservative seatPM Johnson in Uxbridge & Ruislip - no longer a Conservative seat PM Truss in SW Norfolk - no longer a Conservative seatAstonishing. The most telling stat of the night— Peter Frankopan (@peterfrankopan) July 5, 2024
― djmartian, Friday, 5 July 2024 10:08 (five months ago) link
Sunak's resigned as leader of the Tory Party. I don't know what the make up of the party is now, I know the Red Wall MPs have been blown and most of them seem to have been far right wankers, but I expect the new leader will be done right wing horror like Badenoch or Braverman.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 5 July 2024 10:56 (five months ago) link
blown away, that is
― SPENGE (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 5 July 2024 10:57 (five months ago) link
The usual idiocy.
Starmer won, using the available electoral system, by making himself the acceptable PM candidate for a vast anti-Tory coalition. It doesn't vibe like a presidential mandate but nor is it simply expressed by the 34% Lab share.— Rafael Behr (@rafaelbehr) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 11:26 (five months ago) link
The vast anti - Tory coalition, where 40% of the electorate didn't bother.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 11:27 (five months ago) link
I'm not mad. No not at all. Please do not put in the newspaper that I am mad. https://t.co/Orn0etJvKM— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 11:32 (five months ago) link
big moment for melts soon as Kieth does his speech and reveals he's going to rebuild the welfare state, nationalise utilities and rejoin the EU
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 11:33 (five months ago) link
is number 10 big enough for Mr and Mrs Kieth to have separate bedrooms?
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 11:36 (five months ago) link
Some terrible thread titles I put before you for the new era:Too bad the left don't do it for ya - ukpol in the Starmer eraBaby, the Starm slides right
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 12:19 (five months ago) link
no wedding ring, even fewer policies: UKpol in the era of sir kieth starmtrooper QC
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 5 July 2024 12:29 (five months ago) link
Fucking idiot.
The problem here is that it's an issue where the government has next to no power to do anything about it https://t.co/GyqNpRa5MN— Alex Harrowell (@yorksranter) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 12:31 (five months ago) link
He’s been terrible for a long time
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 12:35 (five months ago) link
This brigade of technocrats will spend the next five years making excuses for Starmer
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 12:48 (five months ago) link
if we can get "Llama Harmer" into the thread title I'd enjoy seeing that every day.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 12:51 (five months ago) link
Torygraph writer's reaction to British voters exercising the few rights they have: deport them to where they came from.
Here's what Sam Ashworth-Hayes said for those that weren't up at 6.30 in the morning.. pic.twitter.com/TQFO9vpbUh— Samantha Asumadu (@SamanthaAsumadu) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 13:57 (five months ago) link
Amazing clip. Osborne and Balls having a great time, ofc
It’s odd to see everything wrong with the country and the media in such a short clip but here it is. pic.twitter.com/tWFMTsVdh5— Chłoddy (@OfSymbols) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 14:01 (five months ago) link
New thread title? We have plenty of material to work with
"One of the great strengths of our nation is to navigate away to calmer waters." Very nice. The whole speech is very nice.— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 14:26 (five months ago) link
karma waters and small boats
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 5 July 2024 14:27 (five months ago) link
Did anyone else read that Dunt tweet in Borat's voice?
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 5 July 2024 14:34 (five months ago) link
I think Kier is going to find the waters anything but calm
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 14:39 (five months ago) link
Feel quite disconnected, as even a load of my very left-wing friends are celebrating getting the Tories out. Trying to concentrate on Corbyn and the Green wins, but then that just gets me mad that I keep seeing Farage on telly despite Reform not getting more seats than Greens or Independents. Gaaaaaah.
Maybe I should partake of some blissed-out centrism and join the party?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qd5bz6_blw
― emil.y, Friday, 5 July 2024 15:15 (five months ago) link
made a short video of some of the memories we made this summer ❤️ pic.twitter.com/xlkp7JtLHw— ian mighty (@iammightor) July 5, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:24 (five months ago) link
I am happy to celebrate the tories being fucked, just for today, even the weekend. Add a little spice lolling at melts being furious about Corbyn. Then on Monday I'll get properly down to hating the lot of them.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:27 (five months ago) link
jess phillips redemption arc: corbs plus the four other gazan independents form an actual new named party*, JP resigns the labour whip and crosses the floor to join it**
*or did they already do this? it seems like an obvious move but perhaps they are not close except on the one issue? **ok this is just banter heuristic on my part but there may be other lab MPs genuinely prepared to do this? (tbh i actually have no real idea abt its practicability or desirability)
― mark s, Friday, 5 July 2024 15:28 (five months ago) link
when there is an inquest into how they lost Islington N despite throwing everything at it, it will conclude that Corbyn was badly trailing in the polling and on course to lose - until Paul Mason turned up, uninvited.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:31 (five months ago) link
It does feel weird, I can't remember a previous time in my life when the Tories getting kicked out has felt so empty and meaningless. Even 97 felt good for a few days.
What i see ahead tho is everything broken being entrenched, or given over to private finance, all overseen by corrupt authoritarian narcissists at least as vile as the previous incumbents. So yeah I don't think I'll catch Starmer Fever cheers
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:34 (five months ago) link
You don’t think baggymp was a vote winner?
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:35 (five months ago) link
Procession of grotesques turning up in Islington yday must have helped Crumhorn
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:37 (five months ago) link
Imagine opening your door and seeing Paul Mason’s face about an inch away from yours? You’d vote for whoever he wasn’t supporting. Jokes aside, I’m not shocked remotely that their campaigning pictures aren’t from the poorer parts of the constituency.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:43 (five months ago) link
Labour candidate was the invisible man, even refused to talk to the local press - admittedly a hotbed of old school lefties.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:44 (five months ago) link
The thing about Corbyn is his support in the constituency is firmly with working class voters in a complete reversal of how his support is caricatured by right wing wankers.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:47 (five months ago) link
I just feel like the more Mason tries to ingratiate himself with Starmer Labour - the more they dislike and distrust him and it's clear they consider him an untrustworthy joke character and the die is cast.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:47 (five months ago) link
i mean he is an untrustworthy joke character tbf
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:49 (five months ago) link
of course they are otm, it's quite funny because he was one of the most enthusiastic early Starmer adopters (from before 2019 GE) and he hasn't achieved anything from it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:51 (five months ago) link
People can laugh but getting nearly 35% of the vote is pretty good going for a complete cunt
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:01 (five months ago) link
mason has achieved an impressive string of personal and professional humiliations tbfftl
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:12 (five months ago) link
Just thinking about how Starmer will handle the number of crises that will beset his government and it is literally impossible to imagine him reacting in any fashion other than the most craven, terrified path available to him, it's so depressing
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:13 (five months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/RNVzksc.jpeg
reform should have stood down in north durham
― conrad, Friday, 5 July 2024 16:14 (five months ago) link
why was he still going on about “the party has changed” in his victory address? you won bro. you won the party ages ago. you’re talking to the country now. move on. still mugging to his labour right handlers at that point… not a promising sign
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:16 (five months ago) link
haven't seen a single poll suggest anybody voted for them "because they've changed"
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:18 (five months ago) link
I saw plenty polls where GTTO polled the highest, that's how you cheaply surrender your vote to a fraud.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:21 (five months ago) link
This one turned out to be... pretty unscientific https://t.co/t7MOdFENbk— Joe Skeaping (@JSkeaping) July 5, 2024
lol, and unsurprisingly this guy has spent today mocking the left for failing to understand the electoral dynamics at work behind the result. This particular result does feel like it hits a precise unsweet spot of not being a good enough result for Labour to destroy the Tories and give us a laugh, but also not bad enough for any of this lot to realise there may be some lessons to learn here.
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:22 (five months ago) link
CHANGE
Rachel Reeves: 'There's not a huge amount of money' https://t.co/qHSaToLwhL— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) July 5, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:25 (five months ago) link
As in pocket change
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 July 2024 16:32 (five months ago) link
can we please stop these childish lies? there is as much money as the government wants there to be. there’s not like an “amount” lying around in a fucking shoebox
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:33 (five months ago) link
honestly these kitchen table analogies are analogous with climate denialism, they are made deliberately to deceive
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:35 (five months ago) link
analagalagalangal
it's possible on some level the likes of Reeves are stupid enough to believe this shit is objectively true somehow but on the other hand they've also got nothing but contempt for the electorate, as have their chums in the media, so i'm not expecting this story to get challenged ever
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:36 (five months ago) link
Rachel Reeves: 'There's not a huge amount of money political will'
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:38 (five months ago) link
there we go, ty
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:39 (five months ago) link
Liz Kendall's got Work & Pensions so another bunch of people will die i guess
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:52 (five months ago) link
jesus christ
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:55 (five months ago) link
My humble suggestion for a clever thread title is “cunts: uk politics in the starmer (cunt) era”
― subpost master (wins), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:56 (five months ago) link
the really really cuntish cunts (?) have a 5th MP, putting them ahead of the Nice Well-Meaning Clean Energy Sorts Wot I Voted For, which is a petty annoyance but an annoyance nonetheless
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 16:59 (five months ago) link
tbh there's little cunt difference between Reform and probably about a good quarter of the PLP yes yes
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 17:01 (five months ago) link
bad news for the defence and trident budgets, I fear
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 5 July 2024 17:09 (five months ago) link
What can you do, the money isn’t there
― subpost master (wins), Friday, 5 July 2024 17:10 (five months ago) link
the thing about begging money from the banks for investment
where did the banks get all that money
― conrad, Friday, 5 July 2024 17:13 (five months ago) link
Don't worry guys private equity will come to the rescue
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 17:15 (five months ago) link
Reform beat Labour in Basildon South & Thurrock by 98 votes
― nashwan, Friday, 5 July 2024 17:30 (five months ago) link
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 17:33 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Someone has forgotten that Starmer has changed the Labour Party
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 5 July 2024 17:59 (five months ago) link
This particular result does feel like it hits a precise unsweet spot of not being a good enough result for Labour to destroy the Tories and give us a laugh, but also not bad enough for any of this lot to realise there may be some lessons to learn here.
plenty of labour right types appear very bitter about labour barely getting a swing, corbyn getting more votes both elections, corbyn getting re-elected, greens & pro-palestine independents getting quite a few seats, etc. so while i don't think they're going to learn any lessons, it's not what they were hoping for either
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 21:38 (five months ago) link
there appears to be at least room for some cautious, mild optimism on the left given the unexpected successes so good luck to whoever's going to try to organise that into a broader project
the more i think about it the more i like the "copy la france insoumise" strategy— joolsd (@joolsd) July 5, 2024
-ignore the threeway lab/con/ref bunfight over racist voters-go for urban areas where the labour vote is now clearly soft as blancmange-make an exception for, eg, farage's seat: put up someone impressive/charismatic to oppose from the left where labour obviously will be absent— joolsd (@joolsd) July 5, 2024
and as an extra, maybe see about some kind of deal with the greens for some places? get bristol/norwich north/random rural seats while possible, aim for like... 30-odd red-green MPs next parliament?— joolsd (@joolsd) July 5, 2024
like this seems like a genuine path forward for the left - will anyone actually be able to put any of that together though is of course a completely separate question
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 21:56 (five months ago) link
telling the truth is the old politics
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 22:22 (five months ago) link
Wow Rachel reeves really had her hair done for election night!
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 22:25 (five months ago) link
That thread is pretty good UFO.
For now, I think Ainsowrth getting the boot was the only bit of pleasure I had out of the election
Having a drink, thinking about Jonathan Ashworth. Who last week spoke so freely about sending refugees back on planes. Who must have thought he'd vanquished the left & anti imperialists and who was already eyeing up his ministerial car and privileges. Have a drink to his demise.— SC Cook (@s__cook) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 22:30 (five months ago) link
Can't even be bothered with his name. May he rot.
@jeremycorbyn praises Harriet Harman, Tom Watson and Peter Mandelson for their help in getting him elected in Islington North pic.twitter.com/AwqT9N3Tqm— j (@jrc1921) July 5, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 23:03 (five months ago) link
Love it
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 5 July 2024 23:07 (five months ago) link
I don't see a La France Insoumise strategy working unless the voting system is charged. You'd just end up splitting the non-tory vote like in Chingford.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 5 July 2024 23:57 (five months ago) link
in the same way that the pro-palestine independents split the vote? the seats that strategy would be targeting are not ones where there's any real risk of
chingford was entirely self-inflicted by labour anyway and they seem quite happy with that.
― ufo, Saturday, 6 July 2024 00:26 (five months ago) link
*of splitting the anti-tory vote
― ufo, Saturday, 6 July 2024 00:27 (five months ago) link
bad appointments: reeves, benn, cooper, streeting, kendall, boles (! mooted this morning), ian fkn murraycould maybe be good / juries out: timpson, miliband, hermer
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Saturday, 6 July 2024 09:09 (five months ago) link
can't help feeling some of the first wave of appointees are gonna have a real limited shelf life
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 09:17 (five months ago) link
richard seymour in nlr: "Few governments have been this fragile coming into office. There will be no honeymoon” (seymour he also uses the phrase "fractal pluripotencies of the age", which i think i wd have put a big red question mark by if editing)
james butler in lrb: "The campaign was trivial. Neither party addressed the £20 billion of cuts to unprotected public services baked into current spending. The primary mode was assertion" (butler by contrast deploys mark s-attested word "zugwang")
― mark s, Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:04 (five months ago) link
"fractal pluripotencies"
I'll do anything for pseud, but I won't do that
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:10 (five months ago) link
I kinda like it tbh
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:19 (five months ago) link
Mainly because of the echo with "plenipotentiaries" I think
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:20 (five months ago) link
i didn't know what the pluri-word meant!
and now that i've looked it up (something to do with the capacity for a basic biological cell to develop in many different ways) i still don't really know what seymour has in mind!
― mark s, Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:22 (five months ago) link
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 5 July 2024 bookmarkflaglink
This is about picking up the pieces after Lab and their politics are long gone. It will be an angry country after they are done with it.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:23 (five months ago) link
I haven't figured out which public services are in the unprotected category yet, might need to research this because "unprotected" could apply to vitally important services.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:24 (five months ago) link
I don't see anything left but vital services now, partly because each individual surviving service has to pick up all the slack and damage from the stuff that no longer exists, stretching everything ever thinner
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:26 (five months ago) link
no doubt this conundrum will keep Liz Kendall awake at night and she will be massively motivated to improve this situation with her preternatural ability to make difficult decisions, without a 2nd fucking thought.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:40 (five months ago) link
well not really her brief but same applies to her dept
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:42 (five months ago) link
The backgrounds of Labour candidates were hardly probed, yet alongside the strong representation of charities and NGOs, the lobbying industry practically has its own party grouping; it would be canny to bet on lobbying as the focus of the first scandal of the Starmer years.
not SKSKC’s extra-marital pluripotencies… ?
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:50 (five months ago) link
he does like pluripotencies of titties and booze tbf!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:53 (five months ago) link
Trotskyite Taliban rubbish is the future. Lead, follow, or get out of the way. https://t.co/3tNrRTvMFk— Don Hughes (@getfiscal) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:57 (five months ago) link
Slightly irritates me when shitpost Twitter engages with these douchebags at all tbh but since it's in the thread I have, of course, seen Crombone congratulate Labour several times since yesterday
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 11:24 (five months ago) link
Which is one of his Achilles's heels as any non-douche know
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 11:25 (five months ago) link
Oh Don is so funny, what else can you but take the piss.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 July 2024 11:51 (five months ago) link
There will be crumbs like this. It won't last long but cost pressures will mean silly rubbish like Rwanda, and some temporary scaling back on locking ppl up is a minor positive.
Liberal prison reform is fundamentally not the answer to anything and is a proven mechanism to expand the carceral system. However, as a shift away from law'n'order posturing this is notable and if Timpson can exert any influence that sees fewer people locked up that will be good https://t.co/wtIPSCTg6n— Artificial Inelegance (@MediocreDave) July 6, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 July 2024 11:53 (five months ago) link
Is this working backwards from "this will be terrible"? Or I guess is it working backwards from "this will be terrible (malign)" or "this will be terrible (incompetent)"?
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 6 July 2024 11:57 (five months ago) link
This guy sounds far too sensible to last long in this govt but one can hopexpost
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 6 July 2024 12:00 (five months ago) link
I just like that he doesn’t want to grind prisoners into soylent
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Saturday, 6 July 2024 12:02 (five months ago) link
Yeah its gonna be temporary. There are a complex set of reasons as to why people offend, often to do with social inequalities that need cash and infrastructure and time to flatten.
What that guy offers is sticking plaster xp
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 July 2024 12:03 (five months ago) link
If he can slow the march toward maximum incarceration in private facilities a la the USA that will be a good thing in itself
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 6 July 2024 12:23 (five months ago) link
I read it that we're in a world of many possibilities, each of which may contain more within - some of which I'd guess may be the possibilities of necessity that Alphie sometimes vibes with: "We'll have to to do something new, right?"
Word of the two articles was Butler's accidie (spiritual or mental sloth; apathy), though points to Seymour for having a go with farraginous (consisting of a confused mixture : formed of various materials in no fixed order or arrangement)
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 6 July 2024 12:29 (five months ago) link
Partly because this is what happens in new governments, partly because this is how I expect the dynamics of the next phase of the Labour right's domination to play out - you nod towards the broad church briefly and as soon as you feel safe to exhale you go full dictatorship
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 13:04 (five months ago) link
I'm guessing it will be very similar to the trajectory of Starmer's path post leadership election: play nice for a few months, signal some nice things, float some radical-ish sounding ideas in the papers to dangle in front of the Dunts and other client journos, and then in about 6 months start with the stuff they really want to do
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 6 July 2024 13:13 (five months ago) link
they need this sort of thing for a little while longer yet
Starmer is putting the dignity of labour and class back at the centre of politics.— George Eaton (@georgeeaton) July 5, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 6 July 2024 13:16 (five months ago) link
Yeah, we're in the "plausible veneer" phase for a little while longer
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 13:19 (five months ago) link
iirc they did hammer out a deal with UNITE? which would probably be hard to row back from? fml that the unions are now considered the progressive wing of the party
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 6 July 2024 13:32 (five months ago) link
Party has the power in this situation I think, unions will be reluctant to push their luck early on - largely cos union leaders are sympathetic to melt Labour - so they'll put up with a lot more than they ought to
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 13:50 (five months ago) link
if it wasn't for dickhead union tossers like Lynch trying to scaremonger people into only voting Labour - any other option risks a Tory return - all that nonsense. Then Streeting might have been turfed out.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 13:54 (five months ago) link
this is the agreement - already watered down, which they wanted to water down further, which Sharon Graham poured scorn on, and got them to reaffirm their commitment to - https://labour.org.uk/updates/stories/a-new-deal-for-working-people/
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 6 July 2024 14:02 (five months ago) link
lots of detail here for the wonks but among the biggest changes would be repealing the 2016 Trade Union Act, the 2022 Agencies Regulations, and the 2023 Minimum Service Levels Act (which essentially prohibited public sector union members from striking effectively)
https://labourlist.org/2024/06/new-deal-working-people-labour-trade-unions-general-election-2024/
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 6 July 2024 14:06 (five months ago) link
Sharon Graham seems good, but there is so much more at stake than myopic union leaders like Lynch getting fractionally more improved concessions out of Labour than they would Tories for their members. Ohh I'm going to be a real tough negotiator with the Labour govt. But I'll still publicly endorse them every GE and without fail, and keep telling ppl it's the only electoral choice they've got.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 14:09 (five months ago) link
As a civil servant I'm not holding my breath for a pay rise or for my job to be less cruel
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 14:12 (five months ago) link
fuck my life - I can't even apply for UC because I've already used my mobile phone number to set up my son's UC account. I need a union rep!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 14:16 (five months ago) link
Meantime: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/06/the-entire-clown-show-caught-up-with-us-tory-infighting-erupts-after-defeat
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 July 2024 15:11 (five months ago) link
https://www.thetimes.com/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F7386f5cc-0f9a-41b9-a8e8-a9c73b5692df.jpg?crop=2180%2C3200%2C0%2C0&resize=618
Liam Booth-Smith, Sunak's chief of staff who has earned a peerage for his part in the clown show. Lol, looks like such a posh tosser, there must be some band featured on ilm that he was involved in.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 15:22 (five months ago) link
Calz btw I know this isn't v helpful but make yourself a different email account to your lad and you should be able to make your own claim
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:16 (five months ago) link
I've tried with an alt email, system still wont accept the phone number because its already linked to another account. Need to phone them and explain t'other account is someone non-verbal/complex needs and hopefully I'll get someone helpful and in a good mood!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:23 (five months ago) link
Yeah you just need to keep calling them until you speak to so someone who knows what they're doing, system is deliberately broke. You can maybe speed it up if you go to your nearest jobcentre in person
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:26 (five months ago) link
someone needs to take ian dunt’s phone off him. some of the stuff he has been posting is so undignified
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:53 (five months ago) link
Humiliation kink
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:56 (five months ago) link
get a load of this fucking dweeb https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6688152fd9d35187868f454f/wes-streeting.jpg
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:58 (five months ago) link
It’s been DAYS of that cohort sniping at ‘the Corbynites’ but I suppose if that’s the dopamine hit that most convinces them that those further left are Doing It Wrong.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:59 (five months ago) link
when the sequel is 🔥
My new Erotic Review piece, almost entirely on Tony Blair's penis, is here: http://tiny.cc/gv2yz.Unfortunately it's behind a paywall.— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) October 7, 2010
― mark s, Saturday, 6 July 2024 17:13 (five months ago) link
Former home secretary Jacqui Smith will join the House of Lords to become higher education minister, Downing Street said.
While Douglas Alexander, who held several cabinet roles in the last Labour government, is now a business minister after returning as an MP for the first time since losing his seat in 2015.
…
Labour are set to bring back Sir Tony Blair’s health secretary Alan Milburn to help reform the NHS, in a sign that the private sector and consumer choice will be at the heart of their plans.
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Sunday, 7 July 2024 08:53 (five months ago) link
JOBS JOBS JOBS
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 July 2024 08:57 (five months ago) link
i never really understood the consumer choice aspect of any medical treatment. this person doing an ultrasound on my shoulder, how do i know they aren't other people who'd do it better?
though i did once get asked to fill in a review form after having blood taken. would i recommend Hammersmith hospital phlebotomy department to my friends and family?
― koogs, Sunday, 7 July 2024 09:03 (five months ago) link
hear me out… uber but for phlebotomy
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Sunday, 7 July 2024 09:11 (five months ago) link
one of the new intake of HQ Labour MPs, some little public school shit, could be facing an investigation for distributing child porn. He catfished a minor then outed him by sharing nude pics of him. Harriet Harman will have his back!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 July 2024 09:16 (five months ago) link
didn't realise Tom Watson had stood again
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 July 2024 09:17 (five months ago) link
A lot of ppl voting Greens in Lab safe seats. Wonder what five years of failure will do to those numbers.
‼️ BREAKING || Greens now in 2nd place in 40 seats. #GE29 pic.twitter.com/FScct0tbze— Green Elects (@GrnElects) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 July 2024 09:17 (five months ago) link
i have since remembered that i DID get a choice of venue for covid jabs, including the science museum
― koogs, Sunday, 7 July 2024 10:05 (five months ago) link
loooottta London there haha
― imago, Sunday, 7 July 2024 10:18 (five months ago) link
(happy to have contributed)
i never really understood the consumer choice aspect of any medical treatment. this person doing an ultrasound on my shoulder, how do i know they aren't other people who'd do it better?though i did once get asked to fill in a review form after having blood taken. would i recommend Hammersmith hospital phlebotomy department to my friends and family?― koogs, Sunday, 7 July 2024 7:03 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― koogs, Sunday, 7 July 2024 7:03 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
If it’s anything like the Australian system - After you’ve broken your wrist and it’s 2 in the morning after you’ve been in the public emergency room for 6 hour before they latched you up; they give you a consumer choice, use your (compulsory above average wage) private insurance and see a specialist tomorrow or go on the waiting list and see them in, maybe six weeks.
You see the specialist tomorrow and he tell you he’ll fix you up but your insurance doesn’t cover it all and they’d like an extra 2000 bucks and by the way it just cost you 200 for them to tell you that.
Choice is a wonderful thing.
― Ed, Sunday, 7 July 2024 10:29 (five months ago) link
― imago, Sunday, 7 July 2024 bookmarkflaglink
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 July 2024 11:52 (five months ago) link
Someone I know voted Green but did say he would vote Lab if it was a Lab Tory marginal so ppl are flakey with this.
The big thing is how long can governments get away with doing nothing wrt climate change, but also not doing anything about privatized utilities, local government and healthcare.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 July 2024 11:57 (five months ago) link
Old Lab left WhatsApp going on about how membership has gone up since election. They just love political parties!
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 July 2024 12:12 (five months ago) link
*of the greens
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 July 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Fucking hell.
https://twitter.com/twinky_boy69/status/1809549197533737006?s=19
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 July 2024 12:23 (five months ago) link
There was polling on this , and if I read it right Greens voting Labour is one of the biggest tactical votes, and without tactical voting Labour's vote goes down https://t.co/Lq9QclqAwk— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) July 6, 2024
― mark s, Sunday, 7 July 2024 12:28 (five months ago) link
(i am alone in the world in loving sankey diagrams i know, i just like the look of them!)
hughes may well be right to read this as "actual real greens tactically voting lab to kick out a tory" (i assume he's clicked thru to read the text) but "implied voting intention" vs "actual voting intention" is very opaque labelling,, to me
― mark s, Sunday, 7 July 2024 12:32 (five months ago) link
Xpost to Ed
Private health insurance is really not compulsory for people on above average salaries. I don't have it. My brother who is a senior oncologist in a public hospital and earns a lot more money than I do doesn't have it. Yes I know there's extra tax you have to pay if you don't have private health insurance and you're earning above a certain amount. But it's still not going to work out cheaper to go private. And if you have any kind of emergency like a broken wrist, you're always going to be better off in a public hospital.
― Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 7 July 2024 12:41 (five months ago) link
(This is in Australia btw)
― Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 7 July 2024 12:42 (five months ago) link
Meet the AI politician
has anyone on here spoken about fake Reform candidates?Mark Matlock is not a real person. zoom into the picture.his website, https://t.co/dnsfmaSiRk existed for a short period of time and was taken down post-electionhis twitter, @vote4MarkReform only has pictures of farage pic.twitter.com/UwmlaPb0Cj— Karl Max 🪶📃 (@KarlMaxxed) July 6, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 July 2024 21:33 (five months ago) link
Incredible if proven true
Heavily face-tuned Elon
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 7 July 2024 21:38 (five months ago) link
no, I do remember signing him during the player spawning period on fm 2007
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 July 2024 21:39 (five months ago) link
efficiency is when your vote goes down in marginals
🚨🚨🚨 VOTE EFFICIENCY 🚨🚨🚨Exciting news! In lieu of any hacks actually doing their fucking job, I've looked into the data for the 'vote efficiency' gimmick. Turns out <brace yourselves>... it's a load of bollocks [THREAD]— a dark day for our democracy (@_SRTLW) July 8, 2024
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Monday, 8 July 2024 19:23 (five months ago) link
That person doesn't seem to be taking turnout into account, or pattern of votes for other parties in the seats concerned, ie doing calcuations according simply based on Labour votes. And vote efficiency is just a statistical phenomenon - if your seat share is high for the vote share that's efficient per se.
The interesting question for me is whether Labour could have been achieved that without shifting where they did on policy and rhetoric.
Some of us spent the whole period of Corybn's leadership begging and pleading for this issue to be at least thought about, but it wasn't, so we lost massively on a higher overall vote than Starmer's got. The Labour Right understood this issue and have reaped the rewards (2/2).— Jeremy Gilbert (@jemgilbert) July 5, 2024
― Alba, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 07:34 (five months ago) link
They got 65% of the seats on a meagre 34% of the vote, so they must have been doing something right.
Across the channel, the far right also got 34% of the vote but got only 25% of the seats. It's incredible to me how much impact the vagaries of voting systems have - far more than actual voters voting.
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 07:55 (five months ago) link
Worth mentioning the Lib Dems' 72 seats in all this too though - not all about Labour
― Alba, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 07:59 (five months ago) link
Exactly, we won't be hearing much about PR from them for a long time.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 08:06 (five months ago) link
Though, they still would have had marginally more seats under PR this time, assuming vote share would stayed the same if people knew they were voting in that system (which it probably wouldn't, but I'd guess it would benefit them further).
― Alba, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 08:23 (five months ago) link
I keep seeing HMP Wandsworth trending because of PR, although its Penitentiary Risqué in this case.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 08:47 (five months ago) link
An OK thread on why one should be cautious in joining the Greens. One of the comments to that thread was 'yes, let the Greens win in rural areas', and if they were seen as a haven for disaffected leftwingers that task might be harder.
I find it odd to find myself, having been probably more pro-Green than many Corbynites/post-Corbynites, far more sceptical about a mass left influx than many.— Tom Gann (@Tom_Gann) July 8, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 10:35 (five months ago) link
Climate change will have a huge impact on agriculture and food prices so the Green vote should grow. I can see a big fight with Reform/Tories for some of that rural vote.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 10:37 (five months ago) link
It's already happening, they beat the Tories head to head in North Herefordshire and Suffolk.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 10:48 (five months ago) link
Yup that comment was based on those two wins. It is exciting because the Greens, as much as I think a lot of it is Lib Dems in disguise they might be better than either Tories or Lib Dems. Getting these rural Tory voting cunts an alternative to fascism is a positive.
And Green isn't red.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 10:53 (five months ago) link
Anyone is better than Lib Dems.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 10:55 (five months ago) link
I broadly agree with this. Its one of the reasons I think the greens taking a position on Brexit was a mistake, its something they should have been neutral on
― anvil, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 11:00 (five months ago) link
I couldn’t follow that thread at all. Is a dummies version available?
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 12:14 (five months ago) link
just saw this hidden gem from the GB News GE night coverage.
GBN presenter, roaming amongst audience: Do you trust Keir Starmer?
squeaky voiced little kid with a mouthful of chickenburger: No! He's a pervert.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 13:12 (five months ago) link
def has a kink for locking up protesters
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 13:13 (five months ago) link
xpost What else did Laurence Fox say
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 13:56 (five months ago) link
that it was a little kid made it objectively hilarious to me, but I think it's mainly being shared by flaggers who think Kieth is a woke commie.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 14:01 (five months ago) link
cannot tell if poster calzino is satirising pervert keith's inability to say what is a woman - but that was a woman with a chicken burger, not a kid
― conrad, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 15:04 (five months ago) link
oh I was watching it on my phone and thought it was a little kid, lol, it's not funny now
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 15:10 (five months ago) link
"He's a prevert!" (Bonus Fugs reference for those in the know).
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 15:13 (five months ago) link
If anyone's seen Caitlin Moran's Times column today then we are def seeing an uptick in centrist perversion (yes I am kink-shaming)
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 15:17 (five months ago) link
not read anything as vomit-inducing since Edwina Currie was describing getting "hot and sticky" over John Major
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 15:23 (five months ago) link
Don't forget Tony on Cherie:"That night she cradled me in her arms and soothed me; told me what I needed to be told; strengthened me ... On that night of 12 May 1994 I needed that love she gave me, selfishly. I devoured it to give me strength. I was an animal following my instinct ... "
― Alba, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 16:50 (five months ago) link
thats right
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 17:21 (five months ago) link
there it ishttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/08/voter-id-rule-may-have-stopped-400000-taking-part-in-uk-election-poll-suggests
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 17:43 (five months ago) link
nbd it’s not even half a mil
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 17:45 (five months ago) link
the Labour solution here would be to bring in a mandatory national ID scheme, yipee, no more voter disenfranchisement (once you have permission to leave your house)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 19:18 (five months ago) link
Absolutely chilling the shit that Streeting has been saying today
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 19:54 (five months ago) link
Friend’s medical imaging company met with WS last year and she says (paraphrasing) he was not what she’d call a serious person.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 19:56 (five months ago) link
In 'never happened' newshttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/09/reform-uk-mp-accused-of-mounting-witch-hunt-against-local-teachers
― nashwan, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 21:06 (five months ago) link
JOBS
This organisation is so efficient! Ashworth lost his job on Friday, and by Tuesday he had completed the application process, had 2 interviews (as is normal for a role at this level), waited for the organisation's leadership to make a decision, and accepted their job offer! https://t.co/CtcrGHGD99— Tony Collins (@tontytrains) July 9, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 22:11 (five months ago) link
an absolutely incredible cast of corrupt Labour villains and bigots congratulating him in the replies. This is why I got into to politics, to get on the payroll of a corporate lobby group funded by billionaires.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 04:46 (five months ago) link
chill guys, it's just "Labour Together", it's about getting together and having fun and synergising exciting new brand ideas for the Labour Party, there are certainly no sinister corporate interests at play
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 09:14 (five months ago) link
now he's probably got more influence over govt policy now than he would have had in the shadow cab!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 09:32 (five months ago) link
Transcribing your owners' instructions is certainly a form of influence, yeah
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 09:35 (five months ago) link
well yeah, it's only a boss role in title
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 09:39 (five months ago) link
This is deeply disturbing & alarming.It’s said this individual is a key campaigner for Leic South’s new MP Shockat Adam Patel.@ShockatAdam must now condemn this individual & condemn those organising demonstrations defending him. The safety of people must always come first. pic.twitter.com/icLmhMUfRE— Jonathan Ashworth (@JonAshworth) July 10, 2024
anyone not condemning Ashworth should be arrested. "encouraging acts of terrorism" these days is just attending a Gaza protest.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 10:23 (five months ago) link
he walked into a top job, courtesy of his billionaire owners and yet still a very bitter loser.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 10:27 (five months ago) link
He's still the MP, Jonathan, and you're only claim to fame these days is as a John Parrott lookalike.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 10:28 (five months ago) link
He’s such a racist POS and remember, he was married to one of the Southside apparatchiks who were being snide about Diane Abbott in their WhatsApp group.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 10:39 (five months ago) link
Officially beloved by the worst people in the world.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jul/10/wetherspoons-boss-tim-martin-praises-economic-pedigree-of-rachel-reeves
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 10:42 (five months ago) link
It's cool tho, all those melts who told us to get the Tories out and then pressure Labour to be better are pressuring the hell out of them as we speak
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 11:36 (five months ago) link
https://t.co/YqWvMhGDsR pic.twitter.com/QfeyXxHIGK— Joseph K Bennett (@JosephKBennett) July 10, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 15:05 (five months ago) link
so psyched for 5 years of this kind of scolding
They’re opposition parties and politicians and so are completely entitled to oppose and to posture. It’s more or less all you can do in opposition.BUT: forcing fights on this feels like it will just make Labour leadership dig in on it, so as not to hand them a ‘win’. https://t.co/b64ktwTX0Z— James Ball (@jamesrbuk) July 10, 2024
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 19:21 (five months ago) link
Labour stans before election: "we must only criticise them once they're in government"
Labour stans after election look you know how it's gonna go
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 19:36 (five months ago) link
the fiscal cost of scrapping 2cbc is a poxy £2bn. The other cost is Sir Kid Starver has a rep to protect.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 20:24 (five months ago) link
Industrial strength whinging from Ashworth on Sky News right now about "impotent" independent candidates. Bitter? Not much!
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 July 2024 06:48 (five months ago) link
If they’re ‘impotent’, that makes him FLACCID.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 11 July 2024 06:54 (five months ago) link
he's such an odious slimeball I almost find myself liking Kieth in comparison . So glad this loss has really got under his skin. I hope it makes him ill.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 July 2024 07:01 (five months ago) link
(xp) More like a eunuch.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 July 2024 07:05 (five months ago) link
ungraciously whingeing about democracy because you didn't get enough votes to win.. dare I say... this is straight out of the Trump playbook!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 July 2024 07:18 (five months ago) link
So entitled. Gordon Brown gave a speech at this man’s wedding to an elite Labour Right mean girl; he must’ve thought he would be on easy street for the rest of his life. He is now divorced and unseated, and boyyyyyy is he acting like it.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 11 July 2024 07:31 (five months ago) link
Oh that's funny
― Mark G, Thursday, 11 July 2024 10:43 (five months ago) link
He could make a J&MC follow-up album:
https://images.app.goo.gl/W3fWzejPNJvzSVzi6
― Mark G, Thursday, 11 July 2024 10:46 (five months ago) link
"Stoned and Dethroned"
ach, fi
― Mark G, Thursday, 11 July 2024 10:47 (five months ago) link
He looks like a Harry Enfield character
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 11 July 2024 10:54 (five months ago) link
Funny https://t.co/yiWimURWPc pic.twitter.com/91KEx9UEgB— j (@jrc1921) July 11, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:27 (five months ago) link
"things that are actually not true" such as Labour's tax and spend plans
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:29 (five months ago) link
Cry more, loser
― Blupunishads (wins), Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:33 (five months ago) link
it's almost as "untrue but sounds good" as an opposition party offering Change to the electorate whilst shackling themselves to the same fiscal restrictions that have necessitated the need for change in the first place
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:42 (five months ago) link
We don't need this fascist groove Thangam
― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:44 (five months ago) link
Talvin must be like “I don’t know her!”
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:55 (five months ago) link
Anyway just to reiterate that two thirds of voters want a ceasefire and/or think Israel have done an Abu Ghraib a day since October so could everyone with a platform push back on this whole ‘factional voter’ to mean Muslim nonsense? This shit is dangerous to more than just Muslims.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:58 (five months ago) link
Water bills in England and Wales will rise by an average of £94 over the next five years, under plans set out by the regulator and described by the chancellor as “a bitter pill” for households.Rachel Reeves said the planned 21% increase to an average of £535 a year reflected “14 years of failure from the Conservatives” amid the sewage pollution scandal and cost of living crisis.She said the Labour government was “determined to get a grip on the water sector so it delivers for consumers, and so that we stop polluting our beautiful seas and rivers”.
Rachel Reeves said the planned 21% increase to an average of £535 a year reflected “14 years of failure from the Conservatives” amid the sewage pollution scandal and cost of living crisis.
She said the Labour government was “determined to get a grip on the water sector so it delivers for consumers, and so that we stop polluting our beautiful seas and rivers”.
broke: renationalising water companieswoke: spending public money to scoop the shit out of the riversbespoke: hiking water bills so consumers can pay to scoop through shit out of the rivers and bosses can claim bumper bonuses― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:45 (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:45 (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 July 2024 14:13 (five months ago) link
I'd pay twice my current water bill for a nationalised water company. But that's not on the table.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 11 July 2024 14:29 (five months ago) link
Ch-ch-ch-changes
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 July 2024 14:33 (five months ago) link
https://scheerpost.com/2024/07/11/how-labour-became-the-party-of-big-business/
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 12 July 2024 07:17 (five months ago) link
has there ever been a govt more owned + in hock to evil corporations and billionaires, even the Tory ones?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 July 2024 07:20 (five months ago) link
I wanna say it's about the same maybe but it's actual a key policy plank for Labour
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 July 2024 09:16 (five months ago) link
Lowest turnout in UK general election since universal suffrage, report shows
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/12/lowest-turnout-in-uk-general-election-since-universal-suffrage-report-shows?CMP=share_btn_url
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Friday, 12 July 2024 09:38 (five months ago) link
Great to take a sip of coffee and not be under a Tory govt anymore.
News on Victoria Atkins' emergency puberty blockers ban. Wes Streeting's position is that, subject to the outcome of the court proceedings and consultation, he will renew it and convert it into a permanent ban.— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) July 12, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 July 2024 10:38 (five months ago) link
this is the kind of evil fuckery that makes [redacted Times columnist] feel fruity and horny
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 July 2024 11:26 (five months ago) link
> Lowest turnout in UK general election since universal suffrage, report shows
a lot of people have been saying that, using it to undermine labour's (landslide) win, but this is the first time i've seen same people mention the new voter id requirement and the scale of the supression. and for every one that got turned away there'll be more that didn't vote because they knew they couldn't. didn't help the tories the way they thought it would though, eh?
― koogs, Friday, 12 July 2024 16:48 (five months ago) link
called it btw
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:39 (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 July 2024 16:54 (five months ago) link
I suggested it would be a very low turnout multiple times, but didn't get the "since human suffrage" bit in!The Labour vote in England was basically the same number of votes as in 2019, but dispersed a bit differently I.e. probably more melty posh twats voting for them than in 2019. I have seen graphs that show that support in more deprived areas has dropped after briefly going up under the two Corbyn elections. Which says to me that it isn't voter ID that has disenfranchised voters in big enough numbers to make an impact on the result or dramatically affect turnout. Although this is my own biased reading of the data.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 July 2024 17:14 (five months ago) link
two highly deprived areas where a mainly low-affluence set of voters mobilised against a millionaire parachuted-in Labour cunt, Dewsbury + Batley and Islington N 😎
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 July 2024 17:27 (five months ago) link
And, of course, the Labour government has no plans to ditch the use of voter ID.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Friday, 12 July 2024 17:30 (five months ago) link
when they bring in compulsory national ID cards/a national social credit system blacklist/an unrestricted surveillance state etc etc, then everyone will have voting ID - problem solved
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 July 2024 17:38 (five months ago) link
I've probably said it elsewhere here, but someone I know regularly worked in polling stations (but refuses to now the ID laws were pushed through), and the whole 'voter fraud' thing is quite predictable a load of shite. Doesn't happen! Yet more Tory scaremongering current Labour are happy to slope along with as they think it makes them look disciplined. I guess it's here to stay now though...
― stop the boat(race)s (Matt #2), Friday, 12 July 2024 18:02 (five months ago) link
I thought Labour are allegedly bringing in a bill that would lower the voting age to 16 and automise voter registration. It might be a bit optimistic of them to think that would work well for them when they are govt. They'll probably scrub the former bit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 July 2024 18:11 (five months ago) link
talking about owned and in hock, here's a thread
For the last few months I've been reporting on how corporate interests have been influencing Starmer's LabourHere's a thread of everything I've uncovered, from cash-for-access scandals to secret meetings with arms firms to major lobbying campaigns🧵— Ethan Shone (@EJShone93) July 3, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 July 2024 20:53 (five months ago) link
Change tho
Get the Tories Out tho
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 July 2024 20:54 (five months ago) link
almost feel like, since brexit and the Truss-bomb, corporate interests have taken complete control now. No more government policies from now till the death.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 July 2024 21:26 (five months ago) link
Only the world burning will stop these people from getting cushy spots at corporates after Lab lose the next election.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 July 2024 11:09 (five months ago) link
Wrong fucking choice mum
Who is he trying to appeal to with this story? Just seems odd https://t.co/r60tochOV3— LINA (@agirlcalledlina) July 13, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 July 2024 14:35 (five months ago) link
he's just taunting us at this stage
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 July 2024 15:18 (five months ago) link
never say never
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Saturday, 13 July 2024 15:21 (five months ago) link
I used to see Wes as almost a harmless joke figure a decade ago, when he was getting clowned on twitter for making incredibly dumb posts about McDs + his mum and trying to cultivate a New Labour style authentocrat pol image and failing so badly. Now from impressions of other ppl and the Abbott incident, the impression I get is of a very nasty, thin-skinned narccistic fucker with anger issues and possibly someone you might want to cross the road to avoid.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 July 2024 16:24 (five months ago) link
Labour's manifesto promised to "remove indignities for trans people who deserve recognition & acceptance".That entails ending the Tories' ban on puberty blockers.Young people – cis & trans – must have access to healthcare they need. I'll always stand with the trans community.— Zarah Sultana (@zarahsultana) July 13, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 July 2024 17:38 (five months ago) link
Labour manifesto is not worth the paper it was printed on
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 July 2024 17:40 (five months ago) link
as Zarah shd've been well aware
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 July 2024 18:14 (five months ago) link
meanwhile, Hilary Benn just loves the 12th of July
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 July 2024 19:08 (five months ago) link
what a class 'a' cunt.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 July 2024 19:11 (five months ago) link
i think some of those flags are now ingrowing
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 July 2024 19:13 (five months ago) link
I came to the conclusion that his dad was an arsehole as well after listening to the Benn Tapes. Vain, egotistic, self-important and annoying as fuck. Kind of the opposite of Corbyn.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 July 2024 19:39 (five months ago) link
I’m never quite sure why liberals/centrists find Corbyn ‘arrogant’. ‘Stubborn’, I understand.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 13 July 2024 19:48 (five months ago) link
Starmer tweeted to send his best wishes to Trump. “Political violence in any form has no place in our societies and my thoughts are with all the victims of this attack,” he wrote on X.
has he condemned yesterday's israeli bombing of a humanitarian encampment yet?
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 14 July 2024 13:05 (five months ago) link
4 US Presidents have been assassinated snowflake. https://t.co/jtE3Torx9K— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) September 25, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 July 2024 13:09 (five months ago) link
Former Birmingham Perry Barr Labour MP Khalid Mahmood tells me there should be a police investigation into the election in his old seat.He alleges intimidation and violations of electoral law- he says he reported to @WMPolice but were ignored.
He alleges intimidation and violations of electoral law- he says he reported to @WMPolice but were ignored.
another ex-Labour MPs going down the Trump route of never accepting an election defeat gracefully and making baseless accusations of corruption.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 14 July 2024 15:45 (five months ago) link
Forensic, as they say
I have some questions for @wesstreeting. 🧵 https://t.co/ZAVp6sVWI2— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) July 14, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 July 2024 18:39 (five months ago) link
battered him like an urban fox
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 July 2024 18:50 (five months ago) link
Wes won't be able to reply, because it's a nasty culture war policy without the reason or evidence he's claiming guides him to make decisions. Just an absolute psychopath. Joylon is definitely a better barrister than Kieth ever was.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 14 July 2024 19:15 (five months ago) link
Sick bag urgently required.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/15/abour-lisa-nandy-gareth-southgate-michael-gove
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Monday, 15 July 2024 08:20 (five months ago) link
“era of culture wars is over”
to say this days after confirming the Tory puberty blocker ban remains in place is just a hideous lie. But the only reflection the PM sees in the England side is in the total wanker who manages them!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 15 July 2024 08:30 (five months ago) link
what she means is that labour is no longer a victim of the culture wars but is joining the tories & the press in perpetrating them
― ufo, Monday, 15 July 2024 11:03 (five months ago) link
despite a 5 year campaign telling left wing voters to fuck off in order to win over tory voters, more tories literally died than switched to labour https://t.co/xJKGpdowpH— Crowsa Luxemburg (@quendergeer) July 15, 2024
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 15 July 2024 15:57 (five months ago) link
Donald Trump's new running mate JD Vance says the UK may now be “the first truly Islamist country to get a nuclear weapon... since Labour took over"
lol, an Islamic Republic would be an upgrade on this Starmer shitshow, imagine what these chuds would have been saying if Corbyn had won. In 2019 Pompeo was saying if Corbyn wins, there would be some unspecified US pushback against him becoming PM.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 06:53 (five months ago) link
For an Islamist country, it is a real shame that I genuinely don’t think I know one Muslim anymore since I moved out of East London a couple years ago. I think I’m missing out on all the nuclear fun.
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 07:50 (five months ago) link
where I am it was the Muslim voters that defeated the horrible millionaire "entrepreneur" candidate that Labour parachuted in. Not a binary enough situation for JD Hogg's pickled brain to comprehend.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 08:25 (five months ago) link
If this is the benevolent empire of my neighbour Yas, I approve - chicken bhuna for EVERYONE!
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 08:42 (five months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/16/vaughan-gething-resigns-first-minister-wales
Starmerite drone turns out to be utterly corrupt liar
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 11:27 (five months ago) link
Well I guess quitting is change
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 11:42 (five months ago) link
There will be quite a few scandals from Lab over the next few years. Wouldn't be surprised if things were suddenly uncovered.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 12:18 (five months ago) link
Would the Islamic (sadly not a republic of the) United Kingdom not be the second truly Islamist country to get a nuclear weapon, after Pakistan??
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 13:57 (five months ago) link
Look you can't expect a vice-presidential candidate to know anything thing about geopolitics
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 14:19 (five months ago) link
The full quote
“And I was talking about, you know, what is the first truly Islamist country that will get a nuclear weapon, and we were like, maybe it’s Iran, you know, maybe Pakistan already kind of counts, and then we sort of finally decided maybe it’s actually the UK, since Labour just took over.”
This guy sure has the boorish mannerisms of a Yaley.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 14:24 (five months ago) link
I've only made the connection that he's the author of that much derided white supremist, racist dog whistle book that was turned into another mawkish also much derided Ron Howard movie 🤢
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 14:29 (five months ago) link
Vance has a pleasant surprise waiting for him re Starmer's changed Labour party
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 14:38 (five months ago) link
the real q is which aspects of "Islamism" would Vance object to
― rob, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 15:01 (five months ago) link
seriously
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 15:11 (five months ago) link
it's hilarious that it was his stupid book and the movie of it getting panned and his old neighbours calling him a fraud who grew up in the posh suburbs that drove him to go full fash
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 16:44 (five months ago) link
tbh i think it's mainly peter thiel's money
― mark s, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 16:52 (five months ago) link
not just money, he's also getting life extension treatment
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 16:58 (five months ago) link
can't extend something you don't have
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 17:04 (five months ago) link
George Eaton says in his New Statesman column that Labour plans to introduce signs on relevant projects saying “made with GB Energy investment,” like previous EU signs, to reflect the attachment voters feel to institutions.
"Sadly, the signs will not be large enough to mention which private enterprises will be receiving the profit"
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 07:18 (five months ago) link
GB energy sign washed away by floods..
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 08:23 (five months ago) link
well after all, a greater quantity of the same private energy fuckery that already holds a greedy profit driven monopoly over the UK, could also be considered change.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 09:20 (five months ago) link
Saw Pat McFadden on Sky this morning saying how much he'd enjoyed that stupid book
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 09:50 (five months ago) link
his whole self-made from rags-to-riches persona is a complete fabrication and he's a racist prick, so I can understand the appeal to the average Labour Right fraud.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 10:16 (five months ago) link
Just got round to this article rebutting claims of sectarian politics in the vote.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/why-british-muslim-voters-accused-sectarian-politics
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 10:22 (five months ago) link
https://t.co/VJDMaoClBW pic.twitter.com/OHUPlG7mXZ— Crowsa Luxemburg (@quendergeer) July 17, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 12:39 (five months ago) link
IT'S CHANGE
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 14:24 (five months ago) link
There has been a GB energy announcement
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 14:40 (five months ago) link
Obv the details of anything progressive are most likely to be crumbs. We were already given v little.
Here is a guide of things that are missing. Don't expect the vote to 16 and 17 yo to ever come to pass.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/17/what-was-missing-from-the-kings-speech-from-votes-for-16-year-olds-to-leasehold-reform
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 14:43 (five months ago) link
On London's 'fluctuating populations'
https://archive.ph/Z6net
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 16:26 (five months ago) link
however many seat majority and still serving up thin gruel. a prospectus you’d expect at the tail end of a faltering government
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 16:37 (five months ago) link
on the BBC News page at the moment is a 60 second video covering the King's Speech, of which 25 seconds includes anything we could generously describe as policy, which says a lot
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 16:42 (five months ago) link
If I had the opportunity to write a speech for King Charles it would read: both my brother and various uncles of mine are or were disgusting nonces and I'm a complete cunt. But I have never seen a more repulsively evil and horribly committed Jimmy Savile enabler in the UK establishment than Kieth in seven decades of royal service. And I used to be no 1!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 22:03 (five months ago) link
Paaaaa-thetic
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/18/david-lammy-says-he-can-find-common-ground-with-jd-vance
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 July 2024 10:48 (five months ago) link
Class, eh? Is Lammy saying his parents are loaded too?
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 18 July 2024 10:59 (five months ago) link
They can both bond over their love of charred Palestinian children
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:03 (five months ago) link
More recently Lammy has spoken at conservative events in the US, telling the Hudson Institute in May that he “gets the agenda that drives ‘America first’”.
there was footage of him from one of these events where he is referring to himself as a small c conservative, personally I'd use a different c-word for him. This is grown-up politics in action.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:03 (five months ago) link
lol otm
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:04 (five months ago) link
what is to be gained from trying to build bridges with white supremacist maga republicans who are planning to turn the US into a theocratic dictatorship? It's so futile as well as amoral. Lammy always was an unprincipled careerist moron. As well as plumbing new depths in the last week he's also revealed what a boot-licking masochist he is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:25 (five months ago) link
I think you answered your own question
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:27 (five months ago) link
they need to build bridges with the US right so that they'll get invited next time they decide to bomb somewhere and Starmer can fulfill his dream of being Blair once again
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:35 (five months ago) link
It's good to hear that Lammy feels class solidarity with a white supremacist who was actually a Yaley poshboy. Fucking dim cunt doesn't even do a basic level of research. Doesn't even mention the stripping away of women's healthcare rights. He should step down imo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:43 (five months ago) link
I finished that Windrush Betrayal book the other day and Lammy gets quite a few quotes expressing outrage, guess the ppl fucking over immigrant's lives for no good reason in the US are different.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:46 (five months ago) link
Grifter knows a grifter is what this comes down to, same reason Trump loves Putin
― muswell hillbilly elegy (Matt #2), Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:47 (five months ago) link
would it be a scandal if a Labour frontbencher said they felt class solidarity with Tommy Robinson? I don't even if it would these days.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:59 (five months ago) link
*know*
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:00 (five months ago) link
Lammy's good at flashy tubthumping speeches expressing outrage at injustices, less good about doing anything about them though.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:08 (five months ago) link
... less interested at least.
(is there actually anything to "Vance's parents are rich", or is it just getting folded over from the son of a toolmaker?)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:27 (five months ago) link
It comes from Vance's book itself iirc - he mentions his family being nouveau riche and incapable of dealing with money as part of his "the poor hillbillies are poor because they are worthless addicts" stance.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:31 (five months ago) link
He is of Scots-Irish descent.
Figures.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:34 (five months ago) link
... Vance that is, not Lammy.
I saw a clip by some youtuber showing (where JD Vance grew up) what looked like much posher than the average English middle-class suburb and saying how Hillbilly does this place look i.e. not very Hillbilly at all. lol, that'll do for me. I'm not a fucking journalist!
Lammy's diagnosis of the cause of the London Riots and London knife crime in general was a lack of corporal punishment and absentee fathers. That should have disqualified him from ever being taken seriously on any matter again.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:40 (five months ago) link
Streeting also sounded like a man of Christ the other week. Wonder how many there might be in the government.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:44 (five months ago) link
Ah man, don't make me read this book - nouveau riche is like George Getty, or Trump's grandda, I can't find anyone claiming anything more for Vance's family than "his Papaw had a job at the steel mill, the kind you can't get any more"
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:45 (five months ago) link
I think his family was working class and also fairly fucked up; it was (state) university that turned his life around, like so many others
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:48 (five months ago) link
https://www.meisterdrucke.uk/kunstwerke/1260px/English%20School%20-%20Tubal-Cain%20-%20%28MeisterDrucke-97495%29.jpg
after all, Kieth's dad was Tubal-Cain the toolmaker!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:50 (five months ago) link
the excerpt was somewhere in the US politics thread, saying his family was making good money within the context of Ohio at the time, like fuck am I gonna tackle that monster of a thread to find it for you tho so'z
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:51 (five months ago) link
Yeah I think the household income was reported as being $100k+
― crisp, Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:53 (five months ago) link
such a hardscrabble life!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:54 (five months ago) link
If they were ‘fucked up’ I’d hesitate to say he’d turned anything around given what a cunt he seems to be
― crisp, Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:55 (five months ago) link
The argument about upbringings devolving into the Four Kentuckians sketch as it always does
― muswell hillbilly elegy (Matt #2), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:59 (five months ago) link
Oh yeah I mean as soon as a rung appeared on that magic escalator he hung on like a crazed weasel
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:02 (five months ago) link
well it was tough, some weeks we'd only have 2-3k left in the Hillbilly money barrel for meth and moonshine after paying gym subscriptions, college fees etc...
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:03 (five months ago) link
I don't see Lammy lasting very long in one of the major offices of state, he's already way out of his depth.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:04 (five months ago) link
There is really nothing the establishment likes more than a Yale educated good ol boy
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:05 (five months ago) link
"Ah man, don't make me read this book"
If you want to find out about how much of his underclass persona is bullshit, that's probably the last book you want to read!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:16 (five months ago) link
https://pictures.abebooks.com/inventory/md/md31896215059.jpg
come back when you've read the memoir of a real underclass kid
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:21 (five months ago) link
No, that's fair enough - I skimmed the last year's worth of Vance's in the search and it didn't pop-up but that's not always how it works. Was it this month's thread, after the nomination?
I mean, I'll take it from anywhere else - do you remember the YouTuber? - but Daniel reckons it's in the book.
To be clear I've no interest in defending this cunt - this sounds like a great fact and if it's not bollocks then I look forward to pointing it out when he comes up in real life.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:35 (five months ago) link
https://www.shortform.com/blog/jd-vance-mother-bev-vance/
― crisp, Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:50 (five months ago) link
culturally degenerate substance abusers with spiralling credit card debts. Various personality disorders. I just skimmed it tbh. That could be my paternal relations from Kerry. I still consider them middle class.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 14:15 (five months ago) link
Jailed for a zoom call.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/jul/18/five-just-stop-oil-supporters-jailed-over-protest-that-blocked-m25
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 July 2024 16:09 (five months ago) link
I'm just thinking class distinctions are heavily scrutinised in the UK in a way that doesn't happen in the US. Especially by dragged-up cunts like me. But I could imagine people from relatively comfortable middle-class backgrounds who would have faced much harder financial struggles than JDV did. Household income might not be everything, but it still shapes you in terms of what you can eat (or in many cases eating nothing) or wear or even your ability to even be able to leave the area you live in and travel somewhere else. Idgaf what this cunt says, he's a pampered brat to me.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 16:18 (five months ago) link
now we've got a human rights lawyer as Prime Minister there's no way the government will allow people to be jailed for non-violent protest, right?
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 July 2024 16:22 (five months ago) link
it's a good job he's got his mates at the Trilateral Commission because even some of the dodgiest human rights lawyers are going to consider him a beyond the pale renegade by the time he has finished being PM
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 16:26 (five months ago) link
this is a handy shortcut to the content of vance's book w/o (obviously) reading it
To mark the nomination of JD Vance as Donald Trump's running mate we are re-releasing our "Hillbilly Elegy" episode with a new intro and a worse zinger. https://t.co/8rXzpzne87— If Books Could Kill (@IfBooksPod) July 16, 2024
― mark s, Thursday, 18 July 2024 17:18 (five months ago) link
^^^it's good is this so far, because they hate everything about the book and JD Vance and consider him a fraud. LOL: "his mum already sounds like oscar-bait"
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 17:38 (five months ago) link
wth I didn’t realise the JSO sentences were in relation to a protest they didn’t even carry out. the numbers were already obscene before I learned that
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Thursday, 18 July 2024 17:47 (five months ago) link
Potential protestors can learn fom this that one must make your point through official channels - a politely-worded letter to Shell requesting they please stop demolishing the planet should do it. Otherwise you'll be hurled into a dungeon.
― muswell hillbilly elegy (Matt #2), Thursday, 18 July 2024 18:05 (five months ago) link
christ imagine what is going to happen to those Palestine Action activists, they'll end up with life sentences under a Labour govt
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 18:10 (five months ago) link
thanks for that if books could kill link, mark. it was a goodun!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 18:53 (five months ago) link
Starmer's barely in No. 10 and already they're rioting in Leeds.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Friday, 19 July 2024 08:40 (five months ago) link
partying like it's 2011 in Harehills. Love that pic of the guy trashing a cop car with a kiddy scooter. Probably should have wore a mask though.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 July 2024 08:54 (five months ago) link
Dragging crying children around. Incredible way to handle things. Good work @WestYorksPolice. And then you just disappear when the obvious consequences happen https://t.co/Zphz9yOqpA— dan (@bierkonceagain) July 19, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 July 2024 12:06 (five months ago) link
But this is no time to sit back.Labour’s admission that they'll consider offshoring asylum claims* if it “works” reminds us this isn't a political tendency which instinctively supports refugees & migrants 8/*not quite the Rwanda plan but closely relatedhttps://t.co/32bmdDWKP6— Alasdair Mackenzie 🧡 (@AlasdairMack66) July 19, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 July 2024 12:56 (five months ago) link
in opposition they never pretended to care about how fascistic and inhuman Rwanda policy was, all criticism was always about the cost effectiveness of it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 July 2024 13:03 (five months ago) link
Yup if they make it cost efficient and place some technocratic language around it..
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 July 2024 13:48 (five months ago) link
Dunno about you, @DavidLammy, but I’d be pretty fucking ashamed of myself if I’d posed for this photo on Monday, then on Friday the ICJ were saying, “This guy and his entire govt are engaged in illegal land theft, apartheid and various other violations of international law.” pic.twitter.com/TdnBduQjWf— Stella Cast 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ (they/she) (@SpillerOfTea) July 19, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 July 2024 16:52 (five months ago) link
you're not allowed in the PLP until you've had the operation to remove the bit of your brain that generates shame
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 July 2024 16:57 (five months ago) link
So it seems that the among the new post-election Deputy Speakers of the House is "Sir" Christopher Chope and, to make matters worse, he was elected to this position. Here are some of his greatest hits:
Chope voted against the legislation for same-sex marriage in 2013.[25]
In 2014, Chope voted against requiring all companies with more than 250 employees to declare the gap in pay between the average male and average female salaries.[26]
In March 2019, Chope was one of 21 MPs who voted against LGBT inclusive sex and relationship education in English schools.[31][32]
On 12 March 2010, Chope blocked a bill to protect poor countries from vulture funds, despite his party's support for the bill.
In December 2013, Chope objected to the second reading of the Alan Turing (Statutory Pardon) Bill in the House of Commons.[43]
In November 2014, Chope blocked a bill that would have banned the use of wild animals in circus performances.
In the same month, Chope, alongside Philip Davies, the Conservative MP for Shipley, filibustered a bill intended to make revenge evictions an offence.[47]
In October 2015, Chope, Davies and Conservative MP David Nuttall filibustered a private member's bill that would have placed restrictions on hospital parking charges for carers.[50]
On 15 June 2018, Chope blocked the passage of a private member's bill that would have made upskirting a specific offence.
On 16 July 2018, Chope blocked a motion calling for the House of Commons chamber to be used for a Women MPs of the World Conference on a day in November when MPs were not sitting.
On 23 November 2018, Chope objected to a bill that would have amended the Children Act 1989 in order to increase the protective power of courts over girls at risk of female genital mutilation.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 July 2024 18:19 (five months ago) link
looks like Change tbh
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 July 2024 18:22 (five months ago) link
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=To%20chope
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 20 July 2024 18:54 (five months ago) link
Pathetic.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/21/gordon-brown-launches-londons-first-multibank-amid-uk-child-poverty-fears
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 21 July 2024 08:44 (five months ago) link
need to expand what the charity sector is already doing to help people cope with living under an austerity+ Labour govt
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 July 2024 09:02 (five months ago) link
after another 5 years of this shit and they'll still be saying they are hamstrung by the damage caused by the Truss budget.
"with Amazon the biggest contributor"
lool, sick puppies
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 July 2024 09:12 (five months ago) link
Forget Thatcher, this is Cameron all over again.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 21 July 2024 09:15 (five months ago) link
Heather Iqbal's election agent wants the law changed so that 'unpleasant language' is a criminal offence and uses the far-right murder of Jo Cox to push her agenda pic.twitter.com/OI7G4Rp060— j (@jrc1921) July 21, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 July 2024 16:53 (five months ago) link
the way these people (including her fucked up danger husband) invoke Jo Cox every time they are losing an argument or things don't go their way is quite sickening. And also as J Cox was a legitimate-concernist (in quite stark contrast to the "more-in-common" shtick that is associated with her), as all garbage Labour Right MPs were at the time. She was part of the problem, not the solution.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 July 2024 17:22 (five months ago) link
what kind of unpleasant language we talking about? rude words? calling somebody a Tory? reminding them of the consequences of their actions?
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 July 2024 18:01 (five months ago) link
another example of this unpleasant language was a young muslim constituent repeatedly asking Ashworth why he abstained on the ceasefire vote. Or as he put it it was bullying intimidation, and just to add a bit of dogwhistle in there, he added he had to hide in the local vicarage for his own safety.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 July 2024 18:27 (five months ago) link
I understand the confusion, but he's been a Tory cunt member of the Conservative Party, and cunt, his whole career. He take up that his objections are to improve the quality of motions passed to an empty chamber and then he comes out with
On 10 February 2009, Chope co-sponsored an Employment Opportunities Bill to the House of Commons, which would have enabled workers to opt out of the minimum wage.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 22 July 2024 07:16 (five months ago) link
Bah, that should be "he talks up that...." - blame a combination of my phone's worsening autocorrect send my worsening brain!
Anyway, something that keeps drawing my eye is the Telegraph's increasingly frantic attempts to kill its readers by insisting that Rache Reeves is going to go on an enormous tax-raising jag to pay for stuff, rather than try to squeeze benefits further.
"Inheritance tax raid ‘goes against human nature’, Labour warned"
https://archive.is/92i6B
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 07:31 (four months ago) link
it bain't be natural
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 08:47 (four months ago) link
counterpoint to the Telegraph: 100% Inheritance Tax now!
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 08:48 (four months ago) link
Just take all their money when the greedy grasping old bastards are still alive.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 08:59 (four months ago) link
Stop the money from getting to them in the first place
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 09:35 (four months ago) link
yes, those methods would be good too
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 09:58 (four months ago) link
Told Labour whips are threatening to remove whip from any Labour MP that votes for the amendment calling for the abolition of the two-child limit — the single biggest driver of child poverty in the country.If true, that is shameful. So much for 'country first, party second.'— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) July 23, 2024
you've got to admire the commitment to leaning into the evil so early in their reign
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 16:55 (four months ago) link
Oh,so they want to create more popular independents. Sure, bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off for em
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 17:11 (four months ago) link
Seven Labour rebels. Fucking pathetic.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 18:56 (four months ago) link
🚨 BREAKING: Labour has suspended the following MPs after they voted for the SNP amendment to scrap the two-child benefit cap - Apsana Begum - Imran Hussain - Rebecca Long Bailey - Ian Byrne - Richard Burgon - Zarah Sultana - John McDonnell— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) July 23, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 19:05 (four months ago) link
nah but we Got The Tories Out, just the thought of that will sustain all those hungry children
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 19:06 (four months ago) link
They appear to have omitted Diane Abbot ... oh no, forget about it
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 19:07 (four months ago) link
Clive Lewis as well, Lavery and Nadia Whittome, more nice caring MPs that cosplay at being socialists
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 19:12 (four months ago) link
every Labour MP who didn't vote against Starmer’s 2 Child Cap is a Tory.. end of. There is no defensive nuance to this, they are just simply Tory Cunts.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 19:28 (four months ago) link
This is just.
Thanks to all who fought hard for the Labour gov to immediately scrap the 2 child cap. We moved the dial, the campaign will continueVoted with the gov tonight for unity but made it clear: the massive strength of feeling is undeniableIt must be a priority for our first budget— Kim Johnson (@KimJohnsonMP) July 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 19:54 (four months ago) link
another waste of space
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 19:56 (four months ago) link
"the massive strength of feeling" was 7 Labour mps, you pathetic coward
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:04 (four months ago) link
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:16 (four months ago) link
7 Labour MPs who have been suspended for their strength of feeling, so much for unity!
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:22 (four months ago) link
Starmer so determined to destroy anyone in the party who even remotely resembles a socialist that he didn't even wait till the paint was dry on the door of No. 10.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:24 (four months ago) link
I have been informed by the Chief Whip & the Labour Party leadership that the whip has been withdrawn from me for voting to scrap the two-child benefit cap, which would lift 330,000 children out of poverty.I will always stand up for the most vulnerable in our society.— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) July 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:31 (four months ago) link
I wouldn't be surprised if Reeves does remove it in the budget now, because as much as they love starving kids this ""show of strength"" was even more important to them. They can then claim some sort of credit and kudos for the act and get to grind their enemies' noses in the dust. They will also claim the removal was the plan all along, and some fucking morons and sycophants will believe them too.
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:37 (four months ago) link
As one Labour insider put it. These rebels on 2 child cap. They’ve given us the earliest possible chance to mark their cards. When they come crawling to us 4 1/2 years from now asking for help with their campaigns to be elected on a Lab ticket. Forget it.— lee harpin (@lmharpin) July 23, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:40 (four months ago) link
From the mouth of Wormtongue himself
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:41 (four months ago) link
All seven have had the whip suspended for six months, when there will be a review.
Honestly they may as well go indie now, none of them are ever getting back in if past form is anything to go by.
― psychobilly elegy (Matt #2), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 21:00 (four months ago) link
not sure who this is
We must scrap the inhuman Work Capability Assessments and private provision of disability assessments (e.g. ATOS), scrap punitive sanctions, two-child limit and benefits cap.— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) February 6, 2020
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 21:08 (four months ago) link
seeing him being referred too as Sir Kid Starver
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 21:21 (four months ago) link
pic.twitter.com/WePYQ4GOPK— Hon. PolProf of Agile Ceremonies (@CeilNoyle) July 23, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 21:34 (four months ago) link
They’ve given us the earliest possible chance to mark their cards.
"Prematurely Anti-Starvation"
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 24 July 2024 09:49 (four months ago) link
sad lol
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 24 July 2024 10:01 (four months ago) link
This is the politics of committees, surveys, consultations, strategies.
When revenge comes they will never make the connection.
A new child poverty unit is being established in the Cabinet Office and a ministerial taskforce to oversee the new strategy has been established. I’ve already spoken to both @leicesterliz and @Alison_McGovern about its important work.— Torsten Bell (@TorstenBell) July 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 July 2024 11:31 (four months ago) link
Brexit has already happened. Reform backed the lift of the cap.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 July 2024 11:33 (four months ago) link
This could be the changingest government ever
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 July 2024 11:37 (four months ago) link
Child Poverty Unit is a big blackboard with GROWTH written on it
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 July 2024 11:38 (four months ago) link
Good day for Milburn to demand compulsory work for the sick and disabled tho, under the radar
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 July 2024 11:46 (four months ago) link
there was apparently some grim shit in Sunak's green paper, like proposing vouchers, replacing PIP with one-off grants - murderous ideas. Heaven forbid these psychos would be up for them.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 July 2024 12:01 (four months ago) link
Lab wonk: AI is what's needed here.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/25/online-gp-consultations-have-led-to-harm-and-death-investigation-finds
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 July 2024 09:56 (four months ago) link
time for the committee we all love to see
https://alphahistory.com/frenchrevolution/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/cpscaricature-e1701209674285.jpg
― mark s, Thursday, 25 July 2024 10:28 (four months ago) link
That's right
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 July 2024 10:58 (four months ago) link
The PM tells workers at an engineering firm in the North-West: "My dad was a toolmaker."— Hugo Gye (@HugoGye) July 25, 2024
well he made one tool at least
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 25 July 2024 11:00 (four months ago) link
Vile anti-cellism from the hard left. They probably only like the viola, that's how messed up they are
I campaigned in Bristol and saw the vicious below belt Green campaign to oust the only professional concert level cellist Labour MP. https://t.co/NtgjS6a0w9— Denis MacShane (@DenisMacShane) July 25, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 July 2024 11:04 (four months ago) link
You know who else hated cellists? Stalin. He insisted that Shostakovich change all the cello parts to double bass
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 July 2024 11:06 (four months ago) link
I don't think Stalin would have approved of a so-called national energy generation company paying huge rents to a parasitic monarch, who apparently owns the North Sea.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 July 2024 11:58 (four months ago) link
I blame the Velvet Underground xpost*2
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 July 2024 11:59 (four months ago) link
Our beloved King actually owns Doggerland, get it right
― psychobilly elegy (Matt #2), Thursday, 25 July 2024 12:06 (four months ago) link
someone should tell the King of the Browntrouts his lease has expired, unless he fancies taking up permanent residence there.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 July 2024 12:31 (four months ago) link
> time for the committee we all love to see
have you seen the french olympics mascot?
https://olympics.com/en/news/new-paris-2024-olympic-paralympic-mascots-revealed
― koogs, Thursday, 25 July 2024 13:10 (four months ago) link
excellent detail from the (interesting!) wikipedia entry on the phrygian cap: "robespierre would later object to the color, but was ignored"
― mark s, Thursday, 25 July 2024 13:16 (four months ago) link
i know i know i know but i opened the US politics thread and people were discussing whether or not the Kamala Harris campaign ad was inspiring or just vibes or whatever, and to me me it seemed totally blank and I've always been left totally cold by the amber waves of grain stars and stripes forever stuff that american politicians hurl at voters and seems to go down even with people i think should have more sense. I wondered if the corbyn one from 2019 was really just an equivalent, but transposed to *The UK* and i watched it again just now to see and it opened it right back up the sense that it really was the last chance and now five years later it mostly feels like it was.
Hope. pic.twitter.com/Mdti3obZiy— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) December 10, 2019
― plax (ico), Thursday, 25 July 2024 14:55 (four months ago) link
see there's your mistake right there, not a single grown-up journalist or briefcase in the entire video
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 July 2024 16:05 (four months ago) link
having broad public support for your manifesto, rather than only from lobby journo freaks and billionaires is just populism I'm afraid.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 July 2024 17:13 (four months ago) link
I know I know you're right I'm sobbing though
― plax (ico), Thursday, 25 July 2024 19:45 (four months ago) link
no seriously it was very moving, more so because here we are
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 July 2024 19:47 (four months ago) link
I went out for a late night walk with the dog that December night of horror result, drank a 4-pack and decided I'll top myself another time, if necessary.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 July 2024 21:04 (four months ago) link
Kamala is the usual politician. Just crumbs, floating above water gruel that we are getting from Starmer.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 July 2024 21:13 (four months ago) link
she's standing taller than Starmer then!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 July 2024 21:21 (four months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/25/tom-tugendhats-tory-leadership-campaign-mocked-for-turd-acronym
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Friday, 26 July 2024 08:16 (four months ago) link
Calling him a turd is an insult to excrement
Disgraceful response to a reasonable question, defaming the questioner. Shocking. And I don’t believe for a second this man can speak Arabic beyond “yalla” and “shukran” pic.twitter.com/aCfZ2EPWuq— Philip Proudfoot (@PhilipProudfoot) July 25, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 26 July 2024 09:04 (four months ago) link
fucking hell
― plax (ico), Friday, 26 July 2024 09:22 (four months ago) link
whataboutism is basically its own branch of physics when you start talking to one of these tools. questioner thought he was asking something that would actually be engaged with poor guy
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 26 July 2024 09:57 (four months ago) link
When they call him an old school Tory it's shorthand for "still thinks British gunboats should run the world"
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 July 2024 11:43 (four months ago) link
Anyway he'll always be Tom Tuggin' Dat to me
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 July 2024 11:44 (four months ago) link
its so funny how much that virtue signalling stuff is done by people who are rude about the woke left or w/e
― plax (ico), Friday, 26 July 2024 11:52 (four months ago) link
im in favour of their ongoing genocide because i actually care more than you about Palestinians was not an angle i was expecting though
― plax (ico), Friday, 26 July 2024 11:55 (four months ago) link
Badenoch was an ILX poster back in the day.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/26/kemi-badenoch-accuses-tory-leadership-rival-of-dirty-tricks
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 July 2024 07:22 (four months ago) link
Aja?
― Mark G, Saturday, 27 July 2024 10:11 (four months ago) link
Good shout
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 July 2024 11:26 (four months ago) link
Many backward societies sacrifice people to placate false gods. https://t.co/0QuiA6VlQj— Chris Dillow (@CJFDillow) July 27, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 July 2024 11:27 (four months ago) link
Rachel Reeves already absolutely despises the malingering and dissatisfied population even more than austerity guard dogs like the OBR and any of the *independent* pay review bodies do, this ghoulish fiscal hawk doesn't need any advice from them.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 July 2024 12:51 (four months ago) link
so wearing a cagoule is Prime Ministerial now
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 July 2024 16:29 (four months ago) link
Give him a break, his father was a toolmaker.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 July 2024 16:42 (four months ago) link
feigning seriousness in a cagoule and looking like an uncomfortably self-conscious knobhead
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 July 2024 17:01 (four months ago) link
i've seen some of the most embarrassing Tweets of all time from his grown-up fans today
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 July 2024 17:47 (four months ago) link
starming hysterical naked
― keep kamala and khive on (wins), Saturday, 27 July 2024 18:01 (four months ago) link
This is just outrageous. I have seen some reporting but this blog does a good job.
https://samanthaasumadu.substack.com/p/the-guilty-men
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 July 2024 09:34 (four months ago) link
Panto in August:
Public service notice (given lots of confused coverage this morning): you’re not “cutting public spending” if you’re not changing any budgets but instead revealing that the previous government announced transport schemes without the budgets to make them happen— Torsten Bell (@TorstenBell) July 29, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 July 2024 11:43 (four months ago) link
Should creaking transport infrastructure lead to a serious accident no one is going to give a shit about this word salad.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 July 2024 11:45 (four months ago) link
Shocked I tell thee
We told you so. https://t.co/hjAIGLrquq— Owen Jones (@OwenJones84) July 29, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 29 July 2024 11:46 (four months ago) link
oh my fucking god lmao
― imago, Monday, 29 July 2024 11:49 (four months ago) link
Quite enjoying Torsten Bell staking an early claim to being this gov's Chemical Ali
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 July 2024 12:02 (four months ago) link
You wouldn't know from the headline that this £88bn will come from private finance institutions in the City. They will expect a high return on their investment - returns paid for by customers through higher bills. So, it's customers paying for the clean up, not the firms. https://t.co/n5Jxd6ICMz— Mick McAteer (@MickMcAteer) July 29, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 July 2024 12:18 (four months ago) link
The likes of Bell are hilarious. Tell themselves they are progressive while using data, fudged thinking to trot out the saen shit as the Tories.
Guy has been parachuted into a constituency that I reckon he won't care to know (reality would vaporize his mind), and he'll end up losing in five years but go back to a cushy job in a think tank in London like nothing happened.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 July 2024 13:59 (four months ago) link
It's like when Tristram Hunt was MP for Stoke.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Monday, 29 July 2024 14:05 (four months ago) link
One moral of this story is we need to stop electing people with a name on the Torsten-Tristram spectrum
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 29 July 2024 14:51 (four months ago) link
what a pair of hunts.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 July 2024 16:04 (four months ago) link
Reeves bringing back the 2012 vibes by trying to kill a stack of pensioners this winter
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 July 2024 16:34 (four months ago) link
Rich liberal oldies are always right in there talking about how they don’t need winter fuel payments finally getting what they kept asking for :/
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Monday, 29 July 2024 16:43 (four months ago) link
Office of Value for Money says frozen pensioner corpses can be converted into bars of soap
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 July 2024 16:43 (four months ago) link
It was one faction that was in power for five years, and the ppl that took over are not of that faction. Love how this dick is pretending.
Odd really. Centre left has spent past decade trying to move discourse away from this analysis, with some success. Now a [kinnock voice] Labour government goes back to it in office. Weird— Duncan Robinson (@duncanrobinson) July 29, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 July 2024 17:15 (four months ago) link
Lol nothing matters pt 736464829
The Paymaster General has suggested stripping some older people of the Winter Fuel Payment.I’ve written to the Chancellor asking him to clarify whether he is considering this for the Autumn Statement.Pensioners mustn’t be forced to bear the brunt of Tory economic failure. pic.twitter.com/Yn5eRE7XsV— Darren Jones MP (@darrenpjones) November 20, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 July 2024 23:37 (four months ago) link
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZzBodHEzeGR0YjJrNDhqNzFqdXh5cjU0bzYwcjVyZ3hwNndkZWhlOSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/j3KTcQHNbFoLUrx0Qb/giphy.gif
― conrad, Tuesday, 30 July 2024 09:12 (four months ago) link
Good when Polly Toynbee piles on you know you're bad
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 11:50 (four months ago) link
That was "God" not "good"
so it turns out Reeves is just as evil as her hawkish austerity rhetoric has been for the last decade. Anyone feigning surprise or disappointment at this point is just playing.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 12:07 (four months ago) link
The people that I hate the most are the celebs popping up to tell us they don't need the winter fuel allowance, thanks Rachel Reeves, you're so clever and sensible, that was such a good idea!
Debatable if they know their behaviour helps to destroy universal principles and automatically impoverish more people
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 30 July 2024 12:10 (four months ago) link
In fact, exactly what Suzy said above :D
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 30 July 2024 12:20 (four months ago) link
Yeah, they’re all tossers and grew up enjoying every possible universal benefit there was.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 12:31 (four months ago) link
The actual threshold is less than £12 grand a year I think so yeah really punishing the idle rich this
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 14:23 (four months ago) link
The footage from Southport this evening is fucking awful
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 20:28 (four months ago) link
this country is such a grim and dangerous place for children. It was when I was growing up in the 70's but it seems worse now. This morning I heard this kid saying to another one: I got taken from my mother because she was bad. There is a half-way house child protection place around the corner, where kids whose parents have failed a section 47 referral end up. Not really Southport related but is has being playing in my mind all day.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 20:57 (four months ago) link
That’s awful.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 21:01 (four months ago) link
Yeah.
If the going rate is 4 or 5 years for a zoom call to plan a peaceful road block, what would be appropriate for those who invade a grieving, traumatised community, 24 hours after the deaths of three little girls, to participate in a full blown race riot?— Ally Fogg (@AllyFogg) July 30, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 July 2024 21:05 (four months ago) link
That assumes anyone has been arrested.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 21:05 (four months ago) link
... or will be.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 21:06 (four months ago) link
"We didn't have the resources to identify all 300 rioters so we arrested no-one" is the standard kind of response
― psychobilly elegy (Matt #2), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 21:35 (four months ago) link
fascist scum showing exactly what they are, i'm sure government ministers will think twice before inciting more anti-refugee hatred. and then continue with it.
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 07:08 (four months ago) link
It seems to have escaped the attention of these scumbags that one of the little girls who died was an immigrant.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 07:17 (four months ago) link
Such a wanker phraseKeir Starmer has said those who rioted in Southport on Tuesday night will “feel the full force of the law”
― nashwan, Wednesday, 31 July 2024 08:24 (four months ago) link
Does he mean like the poor bastard he got 4 years for posting, "Let's have a riot" on Facebook in 2011? I very much doubt it.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 08:30 (four months ago) link
A thread on the clean-up.
This is how Southport responded.A group of around 100 members of the community are repairing damage to the local mosque, seen here rebuilding a wall.St Luke’s Road, last night strewn with rubble and debris, has already been cleared. pic.twitter.com/NOZ0JAKdsp— On The Spot News (@ots_southport) July 31, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 31 July 2024 09:48 (four months ago) link
I understand the urge to debunk some of the false information that led up to this but tbh the only response that's ok is "there can be no possible justification for racist violence". Fuck trying to reason with fascists
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 11:48 (four months ago) link
🧵1/ Thread on the #Southport anti-migrant and anti-Muslim disinformation and propaganda. In this thread I highlight key spreaders of disinformation, the chronology, and some points about some of the inauthentic activity evident. I will focus on X. pic.twitter.com/FepWxb402p— Marc Owen Jones (@marcowenjones) July 30, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 12:00 (four months ago) link
Sorry but this is the funniest fash riot scene you’ll see, bar none. Hall of Famer. pic.twitter.com/WlKCPWDzSm— Tim Brannigan (@tim_brannigan) July 30, 2024
― nashwan, Wednesday, 31 July 2024 13:29 (four months ago) link
right in the nuts
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 13:32 (four months ago) link
marvelous!
― Ste, Wednesday, 31 July 2024 13:41 (four months ago) link
No he's only got one ball just like his hero.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 13:45 (four months ago) link
https://img.gifglobe.com/grabs/montypython/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian/gif/hA32CT0n41y9.gif
― Ste, Wednesday, 31 July 2024 14:01 (four months ago) link
Has someone put the Man Getting Hit by Football boink noise on it yet?
It's fantastic viewing, really rewards repeat watches, I didn't even notice he gets concussed in the first few seconds while giving it large the first few times
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 15:08 (four months ago) link
None of you have anything to say about Asian people being attacked in the streets or mosques across the country being targeted?
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:25 (four months ago) link
This is what my father and his siblings would describe growing up in London in the 70s. We’ve come full circle and it’s really grim to see. https://t.co/5Yz9wcaDr9— Hamza Yusuf (@Hamza_a96) July 31, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:27 (four months ago) link
it has been building for a while. in the run up to the election farage leaned heavily on islamophobia, more so than ever before.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:35 (four months ago) link
A 17-year-old boy who is charged with three counts of murder and 10 counts of attempted murder after a knife attack at a Taylor Swift-themed dance class in Southport can be named as Axel Rudakubana, the recorder of Liverpool, Judge Andrew Menary KC has ruled.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:39 (four months ago) link
(xp) Local MP... Richard Tice.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:39 (four months ago) link
Strike that, he's Boston. I knew it was some racist hellhole in the east of England.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:41 (four months ago) link
To combat this would mean unravelling the racist discourse which has benefitted both politicians and the media class since Iraq so that's not going to happen.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:42 (four months ago) link
it's not just Farage with his Trumpian "people tell me [some dubious racist bullshit]" response to Southport. Cunts like Starmer and Ashworth have played their own part in promoting and normalising islamophobia and so many Labour MPs. I saw this kid racially abusing the kids across the road when they were playing out in their white mosque clothes. They weren't taking it though, one of them shouted back "shut your mouth, you fat ugly pig!"
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:52 (four months ago) link
Ashworth is a disgrace and, of course, the media love him so much.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:54 (four months ago) link
Do feel like I want to see MPs and others pointing out publicly that this racist response from EDL/TR devotees is in stark contrast to their apparent disinterest in the recent murder of three women by a British Army veteran.
― nashwan, Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:02 (four months ago) link
I’m fairly certain Ashworth has been on TV more in the last week than he ever was in the last Parliament
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:09 (four months ago) link
In any case it’s fucking scary out there
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:12 (four months ago) link
I really hate Ashworth with a level of violence above how much I hate Starmer. That interview he did about the intimidation he suffered i.e. one of his muslim constituents repeatedly asking him why he abstained on the ceasefire vote. He said he had to go hide in a vicarage (obv dogwhistle) to escape this unrelenting physical assault upon him. A lying scumbag who doesn't feel democratically accountable, his constituents owe it all to him
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:20 (four months ago) link
the guy who took his seat wasn't some radical lefty who was setting his thugs onto him, he's a mild mannered optician with a highly visible presence in the community. You wouldn't think so by the way Ashworth was slurring him on UK media.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:28 (four months ago) link
Wanna go to see a film tonight, just down from the commons (ica) and sadly thinking that maybe I'll stay home.
Almost certainly be OK but you pause.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:38 (four months ago) link
None of you have anything to say about Asian people being attacked in the streets or mosques across the country being targeted?― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:25 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:25 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yeah, but today it's all about the funny man being hit with two bricks lol and so on...
― Mark G, Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:54 (four months ago) link
xp I’m so sorry
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:56 (four months ago) link
The various flavours of Islamophobia that have been allowed to flourish in the UK with no pushback whatsoever from any non-Muslim centre or left political leaders apart from you-know-who makes me sick. Labour have really poked the hornet’s nest with all their bullshit denigrating independent candidates and refusal to speak up when Muslim colleagues are the victims of racism and misogyny.
On this year’s Islamophobia Awareness Day my hijabi British Bangladeshi neighbour had to go to the police because some arsehole on a bus in Camden spat on her and told her to go back from whence she came (she is from Leather Lane IIRC).
If you make your way to the ICA from lower Regent Street/Waterloo Place steps always seems miles away from anything awful happening on Whitehall/Trafalgar Square, stay safe J x
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 1 August 2024 13:04 (four months ago) link
I'll see. Its alright.
You learn to price it all in.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 August 2024 13:07 (four months ago) link
Thanks
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 August 2024 13:08 (four months ago) link
Absolutely horrendous shit and sorry that you have to fret about it at all comrade, and everybody else having to deal with being unsafe in the street
If I was a pie-eyed optimist I'd say this needs immediate strong words and actions from the government - a clear and meaningful response. But, well, we all know don't we? Fascist island
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 August 2024 14:23 (four months ago) link
Maybe the "MPs for Gaza", to use Jonathan Ashworth's phrase, can raise it in Parliament.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 August 2024 14:38 (four months ago) link
Yes, can't say it better than that. Sorry for all who may be feeling that extra pressure.
There's a few donation funds going for Southport victims families but not sure any are really geared towards supporting those others bearing the brunt of this racist violence.
― nashwan, Thursday, 1 August 2024 15:55 (four months ago) link
If you are MUSLIM or could get mistaken as one, PLEASE BE VIGILANT and travel in GROUPS‼️⚠️What a time to be alive, feels like I’m living in the stories from the 60s/ 70’s Britain 🤮 pic.twitter.com/5HDTDscXd8— Lipa Nessa ⚽️🍉 (@lipa_nessa) August 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 07:21 (four months ago) link
Why woukd the PM, on a massive majority learn any lessons, from anyone?
A lesson for Starmer that you cannot control anti-migrant messaging to your preferred level of “sensible” hostility.You cede the ground to racists when you speak against migrants.These thugs want to see rivers of blood. They do not speak for ordinary Brits. But our govt must.— Zoe Gardner (@ZoeJardiniere) August 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 09:49 (four months ago) link
Such cunts.
The place set alight last night was Citizens Advice, Sunderland. Its manager this morning told me they’re devastated and now trying to figure out how to help the people they were supposed to see #sunderland pic.twitter.com/QAfPmJnJgh— Jonny Blair (@Journo_Blair) August 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 09:53 (four months ago) link
I wonder if Starmer even feels any cognitive dissonance between him talking about doing more deportations and then a month later saying fascist hate mobs will be cracked down on by the law. I suspect he hasn't learned anything and doesn't give a fuck.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:10 (four months ago) link
guillotine the fucking lot of them
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:10 (four months ago) link
a month between the euros and the start of the football season is all it takes to foment this. we need a new tournament to fill the gap so these people get distracted
or guillotine them idk
― imago, Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:12 (four months ago) link
Starmer is a racist, this needs to be understood before anything else.
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:22 (four months ago) link
Almost as bad as the actual terror, the steady whining from Labour racists, the media, the entire legitimate concerns establishment doing their "how could this happen?" routine
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:43 (four months ago) link
When young people, many of them black, did this in London in 2011 the courts sent them to jail very fast, opening at the weekend to move things quickly. 2,158 people were convicted and 1,800 years were handed out in jail time. Often for petty crimes. Starmer was DPP at the time. https://t.co/Kc2SulItnc— The Cassandra Centre (@CassandraCentre) August 2, 2024
come on Kieth, where are the night courts dishing out summary justice to rioters this time
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:46 (four months ago) link
"a month between the euros and the start of the football season is all it takes to foment this. we need a new tournament to fill the gap so these people get distracted"
This is not some August silly season type event.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:47 (four months ago) link
whatever it is, there does seem a telling reluctance to deal with it anything like appropriately
― imago, Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:58 (four months ago) link
And some of these cunts were probably at both Euros finals xp
― nashwan, Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:59 (four months ago) link
This is a racist country. And the flames have been kept going by years of demonizing of migrants, and "stop the boats" talk. Not sure what football has to do with it.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 11:03 (four months ago) link
It's impossible to triangulate this, so Kieth and his handlers will just dither because they still want nazi thugs to vote for them
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 August 2024 11:05 (four months ago) link
The actual nazi thugs will never vote for them. But the polite racists who want to understand will continue to handwave them
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 August 2024 11:06 (four months ago) link
Any increase on the 4 cunts arrested after the Southport riot? The comparison with the 2011 riots or climate protesters... well it hardly needs to be stated.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 August 2024 11:17 (four months ago) link
This is a racist country.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 12:03
Yep. But with many non-racist people in it, who were represented in parliament from 2015-2019. I think it's important to note that, as pollyanna-ish as it may sound. There is a large and growing anti-racist voter bloc. The existing racism is magnified and exacerbated by the media, the establishment, and the majority of parliamentary MPs. In that sense "the country" is racist. But let's distinguish that from people/voters, more and more of whom are anti-racist.
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 3 August 2024 13:15 (four months ago) link
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 3 August 2024 11:22 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
— on riots, Starmer is trying to strike a balance between repelling the far-right and what he said on Thursday were the “understandable fears” of normal Brits— crime and borders will be almost as important for his govt as the economy, ally sayshttps://t.co/T3xQA8Ygvu— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) August 3, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 3 August 2024 13:27 (four months ago) link
Oh yes, let’s hear about racism from someone who thought it was OK to start his career at Guido Fawkes. /side-eye
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 3 August 2024 13:34 (four months ago) link
I notice Kemi Badenoch is going down the "people aren't being listened to" route over Southport and Hartlepool, stopped short of "... so no wonder" but you can join those dots for yourselves.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 August 2024 13:58 (four months ago) link
There is a large and growing anti-racist voter bloc. The existing racism is magnified and exacerbated by the media, the establishment, and the majority of parliamentary MPs. In that sense "the country" is racist. But let's distinguish that from people/voters, more and more of whom are anti-racist.
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 3 August 2024 bookmarkflaglink
What is this anti-racist voter bloc? The green party don't give a shit. The Independents have won a tiny number of seats over Gaza and you can see the pushback that's gotten across the political and media class.
And that doesn't help when gangs of thugs are protesting, make streets in parts of the country are safe. Be honest about what we are facing.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 18:53 (four months ago) link
I hear what glumdalclitch is saying re the voters, and I get that cos I used to think the same way, but the country is fundamentally racist through its structures, media and leadership and that is the problem allowing what’s going on to happen.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:01 (four months ago) link
Also interesting how race riots here are absolutely no interest outside this thread on ilx 🙃
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:04 (four months ago) link
might pick up more traction if somebody polls their favourite race riots
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:10 (four months ago) link
I would like to post about race riots but don't know what to say except "fucking hell this is bad"
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:38 (four months ago) link
I saw a clip earlier of one of these fascist grunts with a distinctly non-Merseyside accent saying: When people like Donald Trump tell the truth, they get called far Right - just like us. Politicians should be saying these people are an irredeemable contaminant, this should be the death knell for legitimate concernism - but no it wont be. Starmer is likely a racist, he's also a shit politician. As mentioned upthread, triangulating fascism, even from a morally vacuous realpolitik standpoint is a losing game for Labour. Also a losing game for any non-white people in the country. Fucked up times.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:43 (four months ago) link
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:53 (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 3 August 2024 20:01 (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Well, but this is exactly what I'm saying though. The only part where we may disagree is about the voters. "Bloc" is maybe a misleading word if it's taken to indicate a formal political grouping, but as for who these anti-racist voters are - 12m in 2017 and 10m in 2019. And a good many counter-protesters and helpers who we've seen in the videos in Liverpool, Southport, Sunderland. If the far-right is representative of the population as you're suggesting, and I'm sure they are, why not those on the other side? They aren't just freaks of nature somehow captured on video using wishful-thinking, they are real people out there standing up for their communities. Many of them didn't vote Labour this time round.
I'm not blind to the reality, which is why I'm distinguishing between the reality of the racist power structures and media racism-consent-manufacturing machine, and the people on the ground who aren't part of those things.
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:51 (four months ago) link
I want to go to a counter-protest seeing as there are gonna be more opportunities to, gotta show up if able to - enough is enough indeed.
― nashwan, Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:52 (four months ago) link
Yes. And the least we can do is recognise they are happening and support them. And maybe I'm naive but they demonstrate something real about what many feel in the cities.
https://x.com/AntiRacismDay/with_replies
Worth scrolling down on this account and looking at the vids of counter-protests in Manchester, Nottingham, Leeds, Bristol. It gives you some hope. I know it's not enough.
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 3 August 2024 20:21 (four months ago) link
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 3 August 2024 20:39 (four months ago) link
Honestly I wrote a long comment but I deleted it because it’s not worth it but I just want to scream at it all. It’s fucking awful.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 3 August 2024 20:47 (four months ago) link
(Not at you Cams or any of you itt, just to be clear).
Every time I check Twitter now I’m seeing black and Asian people being attacked by gangs of thugs in towns and cities around the country. We need to hear urgently from the government and they need to label this as the racist violence that it is.— Liam Thorp (@LiamThorpECHO) August 3, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 3 August 2024 20:49 (four months ago) link
This is getting shockingly little coverage in the US, including MSM and social media.
― default damager (lukas), Saturday, 3 August 2024 21:06 (four months ago) link
This is getting shockingly little coverage in the US, on both news sites and social media.
― default damager (lukas), Saturday, 3 August 2024 21:10 (four months ago) link
Outside a hotel in Redcliffe, Bristol - the hotel is being protected by hundreds of Bristolians shouting ‘We are many, you are few. We are Bristol, who are you?’ to a group of around 100 protesters who had marched on the hotel pic.twitter.com/EbAqHzpzr9— Tristan Cork Post (@TristanCorkPost) August 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 21:20 (four months ago) link
Scary shit in Bristol tonight, had to hold the line as fascists fought their way to the front of a hotel that houses refugees.Only 6 cops on bikes present, police horses finally arrived when they'd got to about 5m from the door.Proud of Bristol but still fucking shaking. WTF— W (@Whagwan_W) August 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 22:00 (four months ago) link
This place was burnt down today https://t.co/LY6raQfcfR— Samplo Corvodina (@TreborRhurbarb) August 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 22:22 (four months ago) link
Jesus
― plax (ico), Sunday, 4 August 2024 00:16 (four months ago) link
What the fuck
― trm (tombotomod), Sunday, 4 August 2024 00:20 (four months ago) link
Burning books huh
Liverpool's Spellow Lane library torched last night. What could be more 'patriotic' than destroying a centre which serves the local community? pic.twitter.com/QNPRv9UWcC— Carl Hendrick (@C_Hendrick) August 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 August 2024 11:16 (four months ago) link
horrifying racial violence in cities & towns right across this wretched country. THIS IS NOT NEW. racist pogroms against Black & Asian ppl in port towns in 1919, in Liverpool 1948, in Notting Hill & Nottingham 1958, in Oldham, Burnley, Bradford in 2001, echo our awful present— michael (@Sisyphusa) August 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 August 2024 11:20 (four months ago) link
Definitely concerned for the children
That library’s been used as a food bank but they’re burning it down to “save our kids” remember https://t.co/NJEszIkzKe— Tom (@TomLFC_98) August 3, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Sunday, 4 August 2024 11:58 (four months ago) link
I bet most of them voted for food banks.
racist people are sharing a video of a minor fracas down the road from on friday night. It was a minor shoving match between two groups of Asian lads by the petrol station in Savile Town. There were no arrests so obv the cops have gone woke. Or alternatively there were no arrests because there were no injuries, nothing was damaged, nobody was throwing bricks at coppers etc
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 4 August 2024 12:48 (four months ago) link
well, Labour voters voted for Food Banks this time, but not in 2019
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 4 August 2024 12:50 (four months ago) link
Anyone know of any gofundmes going around for the victims of these fucking thugs?
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 4 August 2024 12:57 (four months ago) link
Hoey is the id of the Labour right
Quite correct. The term Far Right has been hijacked as a label to condemn anyone who has legitimate concerns about the level of illegal and legal immigration and its effects on cohesive communities https://t.co/R5rHHrziul— Kate Hoey (@CatharineHoey) August 3, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 August 2024 13:49 (four months ago) link
And contra Goodwin's comment there:
I think it does need to be emphasized that the numbers at these "demonstrations" are incredibly small - a Palestine solidarity organizer would delete their account in shame. You can't claim that a "protest" represents the legitimate views of a section of society if there's only >— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) August 4, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 August 2024 13:51 (four months ago) link
Fund for those impacted in Belfast https://localgiving.org/fundraising/buildsolidaritybelfast
― mediumrarexxl, Sunday, 4 August 2024 13:52 (four months ago) link
... a few dozen people (and indeed almost no women) there. groups that small are definitionally not representative. all it shows is that fewer than a hundred thugs can make a town centre uninhabitable and do a lot of damage. which we already know from the history of football.— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) August 4, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 August 2024 13:52 (four months ago) link
i spent the morning writing something longer about all this but events have evidently caught up with a vengeance, so i'll skip to the point:
violence has been averted in places where the counter came out in larger numbers (bristol, nottingham), and that's good obviously, but while it's true that the nazis aren't out in huge numbers anywhere, in rotherham enough of them came out to scatter both the counter and the police, and now a migrant hostel is on fire, possibly with ppl still in it
this is very very fucked up and horrible
― mark s, Sunday, 4 August 2024 14:33 (four months ago) link
Fund for those impacted in Belfast https://localgiving.org/fundraising/buildsolidaritybelfast🕸
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Sunday, 4 August 2024 14:34 (four months ago) link
cosineI don’t understand the decision to call these rioters “protestors”. they are just violent, racist rioters trying to make people feel unsafe. how is this a “protest”????? i feel like i’m losing my mind. yes this allows the establishment to both-sides what they’re doing, and bring in sweeping anti-disorder legislation that also punishes peace marches. but… idk that seems too bleak to consider that the media and the political establishment are doing that deliberately
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 4 August 2024 14:55 (four months ago) link
Traffic getting controlled via the colour of your skin. Peaceful protest, what a joke. #Middlesbrough pic.twitter.com/pwrWlx62Ey— Darren Hornsby (@DarrenHornsby_) August 4, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Sunday, 4 August 2024 15:50 (four months ago) link
Politicians and journalists to use “Islamophobia” and “racism” challenge 🧐— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) August 4, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Sunday, 4 August 2024 15:51 (four months ago) link
this is Keir's most recent tweet:
1 Davis Cup, 2 Olympic golds and 3 Grand Slams.But more than that, thanks @andy_murray for two decades of phenomenal entertainment and sportsmanship.A true British great.— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) August 1, 2024
― symsymsym, Sunday, 4 August 2024 15:56 (four months ago) link
"Muslim Defence League" trending on Twitter - it appears to have been invented by Tommy Robinson of the EDL, and is largely used to refer to any non-white group not hiding at home but looking to keep their communities safe.
The 'two tier policing' shit is even more infuriating / despair-producing, coming the day after Trevor Morris spoke up at the spy cops trial in defence of fraudulently entering into two relationships, while defending British interests by: spying on the justice for Steven Lawrence campaign.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/02/met-chiefs-apology-to-deceived-women-outrageous-says-ex-undercover-officer
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 4 August 2024 16:27 (four months ago) link
BREAKING: Question Time to cancel filming this week as audience busy rioting— jewdⒶs // ייִדהודה (@jewdas) August 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 August 2024 21:35 (four months ago) link
This is disgusting.
This is not the first time I have raised in the chamber that residents of Tamworth want their hotel back. I will work closely with the new Government and Home Secretary to end the use of the Holiday Inn for asylum purposes. pic.twitter.com/BxELsOw82U— Sarah Edwards for Tamworth (@SarahEdwardsTam) July 30, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 August 2024 21:38 (four months ago) link
"Tamworth benefits from local tourism""the Holiday Inn should be for holidays"
I contest these points.
― does Guitar George really know "all the chords"? I suspect he doesn't (Matt #2), Sunday, 4 August 2024 21:51 (four months ago) link
xpShe posted that on Tuesday. I wonder if she's going to update us, instead of going on about Viking longboats. Her banner heading is also a lovely example of the "racist rhetoric" Starmer condemned today.
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 August 2024 21:55 (four months ago) link
this was also illuminating from our pro-British broadcating corp
BBC reporter has just described rioters as "a pro-British march" pic.twitter.com/IR8695kGWF— Ted Booth (@tedgbooth) August 4, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 August 2024 21:57 (four months ago) link
Holy hell
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 4 August 2024 22:26 (four months ago) link
fucking disgusting
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 August 2024 22:33 (four months ago) link
doing my meager best to talk abt this on socials, good luck UK, this is all awful and the reframing is particularly disturbing, just saw a Guardian article referring to them as "protesters" which is just as insidiously poisonous.
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Sunday, 4 August 2024 22:36 (four months ago) link
i started a designated thread if ppl want it (on board 7 to deter hostile drive-by, apologies to those who disapprove of board 7): https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=115170#unread
― mark s, Monday, 5 August 2024 09:25 (four months ago) link
here: https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=115170
― mark s, Monday, 5 August 2024 09:26 (four months ago) link
BREAKING: Courts will be open and sitting for 24 hours a day under government plans to crack down on rioters
I missed this from the other day, the Night Courts are indeed back.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 5 August 2024 11:16 (four months ago) link
Zane’s Sultana being allowed to speak on C4 news and she is STORMING.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Monday, 5 August 2024 18:43 (four months ago) link
Ed Balls this morning on GMB. Meet the arrogant racist shutting down Zara Sultana from speaking, now meet his racist home sec wife as he interviews her. Normal country.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 5 August 2024 19:44 (four months ago) link
From the top down. https://t.co/3I6M1HNsn0 pic.twitter.com/vjaahblMt3— C (@Obseyxx) August 4, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 5 August 2024 20:06 (four months ago) link
― trm (tombotomod), Monday, 5 August 2024 20:08 (four months ago) link
I’m so sorry y’all
― trm (tombotomod), Monday, 5 August 2024 20:09 (four months ago) link
Robert Jenrick criticised for saying people shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ should be arrested
― Mark G, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 16:11 (four months ago) link
"This language from Jenrick is more of his usual nasty divisive rhetoric - he is such a tool."
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:13 (four months ago) link
... Baroness Warsi.
Warsi couldn't get a gig in the Labour Party today, even if she wanted one, and it's not economic differences
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:19 (four months ago) link
She's from Dewsbury, a small c conservative daughter of a humble bedmaker, but still way too the left of Starmer and much more likable and principled.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:34 (four months ago) link
Yeah no Dunt but I respect her fighting back consistently on this
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:37 (four months ago) link
this is astonishing to me
Derek Drummond, 58, who punched a police officer in the face and was part of a crowd that made racist chants outside a Southport mosque last week, was jailed for three years at Liverpool Crown Court on Wednesday.
In the same fast-tracked hearing, two other men — Liam Riley, 40, and Declan Geiran, 29 — received prison terms of 20 months and 30 months, respectively, for their involvement in violence last week in Liverpool...
is the U.S. it would be years before a sentencing occurred.. this is fast justice!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:43 (four months ago) link
xp
there was a point when she was a rising star in the Cameron era, but as soon as she kept loudly calling out Tory Islamophobia, that was the end of that.
Kieth is a Judge Dredd fan
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:45 (four months ago) link
some of the sentences are soft as shit compared to what the JSO *conspirators* got. People getting 30 months for attempted arson homicide. Just shoot the lot of them.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:48 (four months ago) link
Yeah, and when the baseline apparently starts at that student who got 6 months for stealing some bottled water in 2011
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:07 (four months ago) link
in the U.S. it would be years before a sentencing occurred.. this is fast justice!
Unlike the less fashionable end of the UK courts system which has pretty much ground to a standstill, probably not helped by facilities now being put aside for all this.
― does Guitar George really know "all the chords"? (Matt #2), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:12 (four months ago) link
Yvette Cooper claimed prison places are ready for this wave of fast justice. Prison governors on the other hand, have said no there isn't.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:19 (four months ago) link
someone has sent a screenshot from sky news.apparently they have a sidebar with a QR code for updates on this.it's like they are treating it like a day out at the f*cking races.
― mark e, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:55 (four months ago) link
Massive antifascist turnout in Walthamstow this evening
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 21:44 (four months ago) link
nice to see Stella Creasy is so avowedly antifascist + concerned enough for her constituents to not bother showing up. Hopefully another lousy Labour MP that will get usurped by a decent independant next GE.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 8 August 2024 09:53 (four months ago) link
https://t.co/iEeADQ6xnO pic.twitter.com/Oto49BYUVr— Terry Fuck (@terryfuck45) August 8, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 August 2024 10:02 (four months ago) link
apparently she did turn up, or at least she claimed she did, only hours after warning her constituents away
xpost
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 August 2024 10:12 (four months ago) link
lmao high qual tweet
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 August 2024 10:13 (four months ago) link
call the cops, some valour has been stolen
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 8 August 2024 10:14 (four months ago) link
Follow police advice in the morning, turn up to the demo for a cheeky photo in the evening, vote for racism and genocide the next day!
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 August 2024 10:19 (four months ago) link
Whether its wrong or right have a look. The guy going down works in IT, where a lot of people from India work in (whether here or offshore).
38 months jail for a tweet is insane sorry. We cannot stand behind this obscene state authoritarianism and applaud https://t.co/Z0yMsv5Xzm— Dan Evans (@dai_alectic) August 10, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 August 2024 10:02 (four months ago) link
They are going to build more jails.
Self defence is no offence! https://t.co/oSrPs50ql1— michael (@Sisyphusa) August 10, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 August 2024 10:09 (four months ago) link
good times for behemoths like Serco or G4S, chuck up some quickie prisons, more big govt contracts mo money, thank god we got the tories out
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 10 August 2024 10:40 (four months ago) link
still waiting for Douglas Murray and his ilk to delete all their most inflammatory posts to avoid prison time, or does the law as it is currently being enforced just apply to low follower count unknown plods?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 10 August 2024 10:52 (four months ago) link
God, imagine how embarrassing it would be for Douglas Murray, Andrew Neil, Fraser Nelson, Melanie Phillips and all the other people that Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer mingled with at the Spectator garden party to be implicated in the incitement to racist violent disorder, god that would be rather *makes gulping sound, pulls collar*
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 10 August 2024 11:25 (four months ago) link
criminal hate speech only applies to people who don't matter
it's an unpleasant situation because on the one hand i absolutely do not care what happens to racists and fascists but on the other hand we have an extremely authoritarian government who are gonna make full use of this situation to legislate against their ideological enemies and suppress dissent
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 August 2024 12:12 (four months ago) link
Lewis Richardson shares his Great Britain flag with fellow boxing medalist, Cindy Ngamba ❤️Ngamba represented the Refugee Olympic Team at Paris 2024 after being denied British citizenship this year. She has lived in the UK since the age of 11 🇬🇧 pic.twitter.com/91gTotwTF4— Eurosport (@eurosport) August 10, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 August 2024 16:28 (four months ago) link
almost vomited seeing that GMB clip of Ashworth sniggering about austerity and the *tough choices*. I'm not going to post what kind of fait I hope should befall this guy because I might just end up with a 30 month prison sentence. Nevertheless, I hope he slowly gets eaten alive by a gang of extra large coconut crabs. Rejected by the electorate, that's ok you'll be invited onto GMB every day, just in case they are missing you.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 August 2024 10:25 (four months ago) link
Coconut crabs is an interesting touch. Ugly fellas aren’t they? Was there a nature programme I missed on them?
On the Nicobarian Kamorta Island, it is believed that eating the crab leads to bad luck and can cause severe, sometimes fatal, illnesses. In cases where a local falls ill after consuming the crab, their family creates a wooden replica of the creature. This effigy is then taken to the crab's capture site, where specific rituals are performed.
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Monday, 12 August 2024 10:35 (four months ago) link
there is a theory that Amelia Earhart might have been eaten by coconut crabs, this haunts my thoughts occasionally
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 August 2024 10:41 (four months ago) link
Calz you are my favourite autodidact. You’re always dropping this stuff & you read more than everyone else on here put together (not an insult to them, praise of you) put together. Anyway I hope that’s not true and she was dead before that happened!
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Monday, 12 August 2024 10:46 (four months ago) link
yeah if she was already dead it would be fine, but it doesn't bear thinking that after a crash landing she was injured and defenseless against them. But would pay to see it happen to Ashworth!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 August 2024 10:49 (four months ago) link
That is just too The Drawing of the Three for words, brrrr.
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Monday, 12 August 2024 10:52 (four months ago) link
Just a terrible episode. Poor guy.
NEW Brendan Nwabichie released a statement appearing to want to draw a line under the Go Fund Me from Claire’s Care He said he won’t do interviews at this time, I also asked about the Mercedes claims and whether they stopped giving him shifts to which he replied no comment pic.twitter.com/oLhw5bge5o— Ayshah Tull (@AyshahTull) August 12, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 August 2024 11:12 (four months ago) link
those lobstrosities are not far off coconut crabs, the latter just haven't developed and evolved their human hunting skills ... yet. Ideally I'd like Ashworth to be dumped onto some remote island with the meanest coconut crabs and also lots of vicious, starving komodo dragons
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 August 2024 11:18 (four months ago) link
A pro-foxhunting group says it has prepared a legal case to try to prove that hunters are an ethnic minority whose hunts should be protected under equality laws.Ed Swales, the chair of Hunting Kind, claims he has been advised by a leading human rights lawyer that hunters unequivocally qualify for legal protection under the UK Equality Act 2010.
Ed Swales, the chair of Hunting Kind, claims he has been advised by a leading human rights lawyer that hunters unequivocally qualify for legal protection under the UK Equality Act 2010.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/12/pro-foxhunting-group-says-uk-hunters-protected-ethnic-minority
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 12 August 2024 12:40 (four months ago) link
can't argue that the landed gentry and the various bootlicking parasites that attach to them are not a minority. It's ethnicity claim that is preposterous.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 August 2024 12:52 (four months ago) link
Here is footage of that meeting between Ed Swales and that human-rights lawyer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHLE7yKQofo
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 August 2024 12:53 (four months ago) link
a long time ago I used to assume that if someone was a human rights lawyer, it would mean they were on the progressive end of the political spectrum...
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 August 2024 12:58 (four months ago) link
This is not the thread I would have expected for The Dark Tower chat, but I can't say it doesn't fit.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 12 August 2024 13:39 (four months ago) link
i see Labour friends of genocide have Clive Lewis in their sights
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 12 August 2024 14:02 (four months ago) link
Yes 40% of ppl here are racist sounds about right.
13/ Lastly, we discovered how Brits feel about violence towards immigrants. 68% disagree that 'Hostility towards refugees is sometimes justified, even if it ends in violence' however 39% agree that violence is something the only means to get the attention of politicians. pic.twitter.com/XgshZ8mazS— WeThink (@wethinkpolling) August 12, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 August 2024 20:13 (four months ago) link
wtf
― octobeard, Monday, 12 August 2024 20:28 (four months ago) link
that is so grim, fucking hell
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 12 August 2024 20:35 (four months ago) link
tbf the question already assumes "we have a refugee problem" and a lot of ppl don't know when "I disagree with the premisr of this question" is an option
not that I'm more optimistic about the percentage of racists
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 12 August 2024 20:37 (four months ago) link
I hope they only polled England and Northern Ireland.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Monday, 12 August 2024 20:50 (four months ago) link
some people just agree with whomever talks to them. I talked to this bloke from around the corner, he's an aging construction industry type who dresses up smart in a suit up for evening mass every sunday, a mild mannered giant. He agreed with me that fascist violence is not good and these people are scum. Then about 20 minutes later I'm sat in my back garden and hear this guy saying to him they just need to round all these fuckers up, put a fence around them and deport the lot of them. And he was again in complete agreement.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 August 2024 20:51 (four months ago) link
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Monday, 12 August 2024 20:51 (four months ago) link
People huh
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 August 2024 20:59 (four months ago) link
Anything for an easy life (unless you're an asylum seeker of course)
― in search of a space (Matt #2), Monday, 12 August 2024 21:21 (four months ago) link
politicians literally won't fucking stop talking about refugee boats and yet 40% of the population think violence is needed to get them to be more hateful towards immigrants, i don't know what the answer is here guys
been thinking about the May-era hostile environment policies and how we're know seeing our fellow voters taking it upon themselves to enact that at citizen level, no more home office teams breaking down your door at six in the morning, we'll have some cunts with bricks and iron bars do it in broad daylight instead
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 12 August 2024 21:38 (four months ago) link
know
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 12 August 2024 21:39 (four months ago) link
I mean the answer is politicians pushing back, but they don't have the moral fibre or strength to say that more migration is needed, so they won't back it with policy.
Migrants will huddle together and protect their communities. Many will go to jail, but its up to us to back them in anyway they can to change the national conversation.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 August 2024 00:07 (four months ago) link
Ofsted has published new data showing how children's homes have become a huge, money-spinning business. If you are squeamish about these things, look away now. 🧵— Martin Barrow (@MartinBarrow) August 13, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 August 2024 11:20 (four months ago) link
It is wild that members of the public are facing potential prison time for what basically amount to reporting errors. When has this standard ever been applied to the print media!! pic.twitter.com/yYbaNYEg1W— Callum Cant (@CallumCant1) August 14, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 August 2024 09:13 (four months ago) link
Good to see the government protecting the reputation of Yaxley-Lennon
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 August 2024 10:20 (four months ago) link
The dangerous far-left agitators at (checks notes)
What happened last night was not funny. Far-left activists disrupted the event, which then had to be stopped for security reasons.This is done to intimidate people and suppress free speech. I won't stand for it.Would we see the same reaction if the activists were far-right?— Liz Truss (@trussliz) August 14, 2024
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 14 August 2024 22:58 (four months ago) link
Donked by Ladies
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2024 05:02 (four months ago) link
the only fair and impartial thing to do rn would be to prosecute LBD with the full weight of recent anti-protest measures, and lock them up. Is this as cutting as they get under a Labour govt, taking the piss out of irrelevant washed-up tories
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 15 August 2024 06:44 (four months ago) link
"Bridget Phillipson has said foreign students make a huge contribution to the UK’s town and cities, but she has no plans to change recent Tory visa restrictions"So the Government will spend more bailing out universities to pander to racists. Wrong choicehttps://t.co/HT5dQCh0mY— Andrew Fisher (@FisherAndrew79) August 15, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 August 2024 11:00 (four months ago) link
That's not very Change
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2024 11:49 (four months ago) link
The change is it's being said in a canny Geordie accent.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 August 2024 11:54 (four months ago) link
it seems anti-growth policies are ok as long they are racist continuity tory ones.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 15 August 2024 12:02 (four months ago) link
Really sad.
Amer Walid jailed for 20 months for throwing a beer can back at fascists in Plymouth, he don’t drink. What happened to self defence is no offence? “What you should have done was simply rise above their obnoxious racism." Someone give this man a good lawyer https://t.co/A34O4WEnVs— Shareefa Energy (@ShareefaEnergy) August 15, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 16 August 2024 08:23 (four months ago) link
never mind the absolutely fucking preposterous sentencing, it shouldn't have even made it to court
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 August 2024 08:33 (four months ago) link
people at music festivals have thrown bottles of piss at performers without getting arrested ffs
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 August 2024 08:36 (four months ago) link
there can't be any legal precedent for this, it's insane
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 August 2024 08:37 (four months ago) link
It’s incredibly sad. It’s also very, very important that people going to counter-protests know what self defence means. Organisers have been consistent in emphasising that you need to be prepared to defend yourself under immediate threat of violence but if you get provoked into doing something stupid (in this case being filmed by police throwing multiple missiles into a crowd of people), the only person who you are going to end up harming is yourself. idk what people think ‘a good lawyer’ is going to do in this situation.
― ShariVari, Friday, 16 August 2024 08:38 (four months ago) link
so it wasn't just throwing a single can?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 August 2024 08:40 (four months ago) link
So much for Two Tier Keir.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Friday, 16 August 2024 08:42 (four months ago) link
His original story was that it was one can but the police had bodycam footage of him throwing at least four things.
It sucks and the sentence is manifestly unfair but the judge was pretty sympathetic to him. It probably wouldn’t have been 20 months under other circumstances but there are harsh sentencing guidelines for participating in ‘major disorder’ which means that most of the people involved are going to get 2-5 years.
― ShariVari, Friday, 16 August 2024 08:52 (four months ago) link
Once I was in Batley town centre and some young dickheads were giving my son some disablist abuse. I told them to stfu and carried on. A driver also stopped and told them to stfu and one of them threw a can at the car. I reported it to the police and they said they'd look at the cctv but there was no follow up. No 20 month sentences.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 August 2024 08:54 (four months ago) link
Kieth the Chief of Grief
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 August 2024 09:06 (four months ago) link
but there are harsh sentencing guidelines for participating in ‘major disorder’ which means that most of the people involved are going to get 2-5 years.
― ShariVari, Friday, 16 August 2024 bookmarkflaglink
These rushed guidelines are the problem, but yes the government or the police are not ever going to have your back, especially on a problem which is partly of their creation.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 16 August 2024 09:37 (four months ago) link
I think the guidelines go back to 2020, at least, but are very much a part of the wider crackdown on ‘disorder’ that the Tories implemented and Labour is unlikely to reverse. Smash the window of TK Maxx on a Friday night you will probably get community service, smash it as part of a riot / protest you’ll get 20 months, etc.
― ShariVari, Friday, 16 August 2024 09:47 (four months ago) link
Ah right.
"that the Tories implemented and Labour is unlikely to reverse"
Many such things.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 16 August 2024 09:57 (four months ago) link
they will be making dangerous cuts while referring to the Truss mini-budget crashing the economy for years to come.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 August 2024 10:11 (four months ago) link
Interesting story that seems not to be getting coverage in the British press.
The fact that a senior civil servant who specialised in assessing arms exports to Israel has ended his 18-year career because he thinks the Foreign Office "may be complicit in war crimes", and not a single national outlet has reported it, is frightening. We have a captive media. https://t.co/Y6M4sWn8M3— Rivkah Brown (@rivkahbrown) August 16, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 17 August 2024 10:32 (four months ago) link
They talked with him this morning on The Today show, is it being reported anywhere else now?
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 19 August 2024 07:55 (four months ago) link
was on the guardian website yesterday
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 19 August 2024 07:58 (four months ago) link
Off to The Village with him!
― imago, Monday, 19 August 2024 08:03 (four months ago) link
Everywhere from the Independent to the Daily Mail today.
― ShariVari, Monday, 19 August 2024 08:50 (four months ago) link
Earlier this month, the far right set fire to hotels housing asylum seekers. Today, the government announced a "major surge" in deportations and promised to re-open detention centres.The government could have stood up to the far right. Instead, it pandered to them.— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) August 21, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 August 2024 15:19 (four months ago) link
Pussy.
Jonathan Ashworth described it as the most vitriolic campaign he’d ever been a part of and described being forced to hide in a vicarage. pic.twitter.com/INNlEfbYw0— Ed Campbell (@edcmpbl) August 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:00 (four months ago) link
get thee to a vicarage
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:13 (four months ago) link
does he think Muslims can't cross the threshold of a vicarage or something?
― the news is terrible, i'm in the clear (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:27 (four months ago) link
also amongst this dog whistle ramble he also laughably talks about being a "northern lad" in that creepsome New Labour version of an accent he has. There were4 no actual physical threats towards him from his constituents, unfortunately. He doesn't understand what vitriol even means, it is a word unrelated to democratic accountability.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:35 (four months ago) link
Well even murderers could claim sanctuary in churches in mediaeval times. I don't think they would have accepted Ashworth though.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:36 (four months ago) link
having a slimy white racist MP in areas with sizable ethnic minorities. One who is hardly ever in the place and indifferent to Israel genocide and prone to making racist statements, well that might be politically difficult from now on for Labour going forwards. If you call that "vitriolic" then you aren't really getting it and your failed political career is all on you.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:51 (four months ago) link
Libs are always like 'let's make a plan', 'better regulation', 'strategy'...this time its while people die in winter.
3/ In the short term, we will do everything in our power to protect billpayers, including:• reforming the regulator so it is a consumer champion• working to make standing charges fairer• introducing a Warm Homes Plan— Ed Miliband (@Ed_Miliband) August 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 August 2024 09:25 (three months ago) link
maybe some more loft insulation might just be the trick. lol, does anyone actually believe that Ofgem could become a "consumer champion". Not even Ed believes that shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 23 August 2024 09:49 (three months ago) link
insulate britain (from the risk of ever improving the lives of its citizens)
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 August 2024 10:22 (three months ago) link
that Warm Homes Plan in full:
- local hot water bottle banks- investment in draught-excluder startups- the "Let's Have a Brew" initiative.
― fetter, Friday, 23 August 2024 10:36 (three months ago) link
a charcoal warmer tin in every pensioners breast pocket
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 23 August 2024 11:04 (three months ago) link
Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 23 August 2024 12:01 (three months ago) link
Farage and Reform will promise to nationalise energy/the national grid and restore the winter fuel allowance, and grab the pensioner vote
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 23 August 2024 12:38 (three months ago) link
master strategist kieth leaving himself open to being flanked from the left by the far right
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 August 2024 12:55 (three months ago) link
Crazy inversion of Blairism
Tomorrow’s front page pic.twitter.com/AKkUBtHL4V— The Observer (@ObserverUK) August 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 25 August 2024 09:07 (three months ago) link
it's nice when he says something he means tbh
― the news is terrible, i'm in the clear (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 25 August 2024 09:11 (three months ago) link
if the day ends with a "y" then it's another tough decisions and legitimate concerns day for Starmer.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 25 August 2024 10:51 (three months ago) link
it doesn't even make any sense. 14 years of austerity has broken the economy and plunged millions of people into poverty and destitution, so in order to fix this we need to do harder cuts and it's not our fault.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 25 August 2024 10:55 (three months ago) link
It's weird it's almost as if he was obviously a racist authoritarian crank and (a small minority) of people voted for him anyway
― the news is terrible, i'm in the clear (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 25 August 2024 10:55 (three months ago) link
He also bizarrely seems to be justifying the riots. Except not bizarrerie when you understand he is a racist
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 25 August 2024 11:07 (three months ago) link
yeah he just had to shoehorn that into his speech as well, what a fucking wanker
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 25 August 2024 11:09 (three months ago) link
i hate to say it but i didn’t read that statement as justification - he seemed to be saying that the racist rioters felt free to break the law because they knew the jails were full and wouldn’t actually do time? which seems like a bizarre thing to speculate about but hey he’s the prosecutor. he gets very worked up about the mechanics of these things but seldom looks further than thatthe austerity stuff is kind of predictable - it’s canon that you front-load any budgetary pain into the start of a term of office - but given the particular situation the uk is in it is obviously exactly the wrong medicine. if they wait until the year before the next GA to try and unfuck the economy we’re going to see a lot more misery
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 August 2024 11:49 (three months ago) link
didn't see any reports about convicted rioters cases being thrown out of court because of a lack of prisons. Such a dumbass thing for a former barrister to say.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:01 (three months ago) link
yeah it’s not even… true?
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:04 (three months ago) link
if anything the knowledge that UK prisons have become overcrowded hellholes is going to cause a lot of people some extra concern about facing criminal charges
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:11 (three months ago) link
Yes but Starmer is very much in tune with the Daily Mail mindset of criminals being free to roam the streets to frighten the horses etc.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:16 (three months ago) link
Meanwhile, plus ca change...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/aug/25/labour-donor-quits-treasury-role-amid-cronyism-claims
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:17 (three months ago) link
the Mail get to have it both ways, prison capacity is overcrowded and they haven't got enough space to lock more criminals up and also they are holiday camps
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:20 (three months ago) link
i hate to say it but i didn’t read that statement as justification - he seemed to be saying that the racist rioters felt free to break the law because they knew the jails were full and wouldn’t actually do time? which seems like a bizarre thing to speculate about but hey he’s the prosecutor. he gets very worked up about the mechanics of these things but seldom looks further than that
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:49
Okay, that's more plausible then, but, though he's not justifying them, he's still giving them another motivation instead of white supremacist pogroms. If the point of his speech is mainly to blame Tory policies, he either shouldn't shoehorn racist riots in that to make a disturbingly inapposite point, or he should blame Tory racist rhetoric for that. But we know why he can't do that. So he ends up excusing the rioters as somehow victims of Tory failure. It's pretty disgusting
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:30 (three months ago) link
yes totally agreed
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:36 (three months ago) link
luckily for us i think he genuinely is a moron rather than an evil mastermind - it could be worse? sorry grasping at straws here
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:38 (three months ago) link
No I think you're right and I agree that a lot of what he says comes from a place of lawyerly pedantry, which is still an expression of his prejudice but at one remove, kind of
― the news is terrible, i'm in the clear (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:53 (three months ago) link
I prefer your description of him at 11:55 haha
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:59 (three months ago) link
racist crank moron with resting authoritarian face
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 August 2024 13:02 (three months ago) link
Really Starmer is like The Guardian come to life, a lot of it is make believe around: Proper management, strategy, surveys/fake listening to people, concerns 'dealt with', but beneath that its authoritarian and nasty, protects wealth and screws the poor and vulnerable.
Except Brexit is not getting undone, so there is always a thing to grumble about.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 25 August 2024 13:10 (three months ago) link
Grasping at Jack Straws there.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 August 2024 13:28 (three months ago) link
Our statement on the Dagenham fire: pic.twitter.com/vADYMdelhY— Grenfell United (@GrenfellUnited) August 26, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 August 2024 14:22 (three months ago) link
The quiet.
Starmer: "There's a budget coming in October. And I will be honest with you- it's going to be painful. We have no other choice, given the situation that we're in...I'll have to turn to the country and make big asks of you as well. To accept short term pain for long term good."— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) August 27, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 August 2024 10:43 (three months ago) link
*Medvedev wink*
― nashwan, Tuesday, 27 August 2024 11:42 (three months ago) link
guys….. there was an election…. right?
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 August 2024 12:09 (three months ago) link
As is being shown in France, you get the neolibs whoever you vote for
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 27 August 2024 12:10 (three months ago) link
Saw this story yesterday but tbh Lab right politicians would look at any excuse to be persuaded to not invest etc.
Depressing article revealing how a lobbyist convinced the chancellor that private finance can replace public investment It really can’t https://t.co/fLULA9zAjU— Laurie Macfarlane (@L__Macfarlane) August 27, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 08:12 (three months ago) link
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 08:33 (three months ago) link
this is what "not ideological" looks like i guess
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 08:35 (three months ago) link
so we’re just destined to live out the blair reforms again and again, just with shittier public services on every iteration???
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 09:16 (three months ago) link
Its worse. The private sector won't invest, your kent racist will have his house flooded. The government will then step in and spend way over.
We will probably go to the IMF and they will cancel public services, at which point migrants will be blamed and more hotels will be burnt down.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 09:58 (three months ago) link
The party should not have even considered using that much taxpayer cash, Thomas argued.
The way this is just left hanging, no explanation, no reasoning.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 10:32 (three months ago) link
Absolutely key to vote for this bullshit you know 🙄
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 10:59 (three months ago) link
the day ex-banking sector, longtime fiscal hawk Rachel Reeves was (after some significant resistance) persuaded that the further hollowing out of the state by private finance was a sound idea.. yes a masterclass in the art of lobbying there .. possibly not
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 11:22 (three months ago) link
All they are interested in is a bit of work experience and making contacts while in government to then get a cushy job when they are kicked out of it.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 11:53 (three months ago) link
hah! just saw footage of a younger and even more severe sounding Rachel Reeves pledging to means test/cut pensioners winter fuel allowance, from 2014. Then just trying to outflank Gideon on how far Tory austerity dared to go, now just going where they dared not tread.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 18:57 (three months ago) link
smoking ban proposals show that Kieth wants people to stay alive and enjoy poverty exploitation island for as long as possible
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 August 2024 17:21 (three months ago) link
Yeah but imagine how hated Wesley will be
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Thursday, 29 August 2024 17:39 (three months ago) link
i think it's nice that people who hadn't come across him before are getting this chance to enjoy his high octane charisma
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 August 2024 18:44 (three months ago) link
extra outdoor smoking restrictions seems pretty dubious as a health positive policy, if someone smokes a pack a day and are faced with new outdoor smoking restrictions. They will still smoke a pack a day, just occasionally in different locations than they usually do. And also they will think Kieth is a cunt.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 29 August 2024 18:57 (three months ago) link
it's funny that Tories are calling Nanny State on this when they had banning smoking everywhere on their manifesto
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 29 August 2024 19:03 (three months ago) link
First they came for the Communists⁰And I did not speak outBecause I was not a communistThen they came for the Jews⁰And I did not speak out⁰Because I was not a JewThen they came for me⁰And there was no one left⁰To speak out for mePertinent words re Starmer’s smoking ban— Esther McVey (@EstherMcVey1) August 29, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 August 2024 20:02 (three months ago) link
I wouldn't have stopped smoking if I realised it gave me protected characteristic status, oh well off to the camps I go anyway!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 29 August 2024 20:20 (three months ago) link
People that need medical care aren't getting it. This is nonsense for headlines.
🚨 NEW: The government is funding a new 'health MOT' in which the NHS will go into offices, pubs and building sites to weigh workers and measure their blood pressure to help prevent heart attacks and strokes[@thetimes]— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) August 29, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 August 2024 07:55 (three months ago) link
trying any nonsense other than adequately funding the NHS. Could imagine the health & safety issues regarding sending people into pubs and building sites, just laughable shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 30 August 2024 08:06 (three months ago) link
if something is flagged up during these impromptu on site medicals, you are still going into the backlog of people needing urgent healthcare. These people are not serious.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 30 August 2024 08:17 (three months ago) link
This is it, the one good thing so far
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/aug/29/keir-starmer-gets-rid-of-10-downing-streets-thatcher-portrait
― nashwan, Friday, 30 August 2024 08:34 (three months ago) link
It'll be back up within a week, accompanied by a tasteful photoshoot of him shagging it
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 30 August 2024 08:40 (three months ago) link
Is Kier Starmer going to start watching me pee? wtf is all this?
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 August 2024 08:49 (three months ago) link
The only, somewhat positive thing I can think of are that the government seem to be working to resolve pay disputes with workers and their unions. The pay rises are still meager but at least something is happening in that direction.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 August 2024 09:01 (three months ago) link
and compensation payments for infected blood victims.
did the waspi women also get some payout? i thought i'd heard something but can't find anything specific
― koogs, Friday, 30 August 2024 10:32 (three months ago) link
The council post 16 transport dept has washed their hands of lots of complex needs students in my area. Where previously they had taxi transport to college, now carers are being issued with a derisory monthly transport budget that wouldn't cover a week. Starmer wont give a fuck about this, they aren't hard working strivers and therefore they don't exist.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 30 August 2024 11:03 (three months ago) link
The Times’ framing of the ‘health MOT’ thing is kind of weird. Everyone is already entitled to a full check-up every five years if you’re over the age of 40 but there is a low take-up rate for men who either don’t have the inclination to proactively book in with a GP or find it difficult to take time off work. This seems to just be just making that more widely available where people already are. Healthcare outreach is good, though the suspicion is always that this is going to be a limited gimmick thing,
― ShariVari, Friday, 30 August 2024 11:15 (three months ago) link
Just going into pubs and handing every man over 40 a small piece of paper that says "your cholesterol is too high" without asking them any questions
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 30 August 2024 15:20 (three months ago) link
people supping in pubs generally don't want to know about any lingering health problems they might have, total buzzkill.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 30 August 2024 15:25 (three months ago) link
I've printed off a small piece of paper that says "yes I know, I've switched to fat free yoghurt and I sometimes work out now" just in case, anyway
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 30 August 2024 15:28 (three months ago) link
It’s meant to be for hospitality workers rather than the drinkers, tbf.
There are definitely reasons to be cynical about it - prevention might be better than cure but you need to fund both adequately, stable incomes and workers’ rights are just as important as health info when it comes to avoiding illness, etc, but it’s not quite as goofy as the press is making out.
― ShariVari, Friday, 30 August 2024 16:16 (three months ago) link
the press are gonna put the worst possible spin on anything this government does, but the broader problem for Labour (sure they won't see it as a problem) is that when they promote good initiatives that are part of what a functioning welfare state ought to do they will only draw attention to their underlying refusal to tackle the bigger structural failings
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2024 16:43 (three months ago) link
Genuinely had no idea that I could request a health mot as I am (way) over 40. So thx SV. I've only ever gone to the doctor's when I've been ill which has thankfully been rare.
― oscar bravo, Friday, 30 August 2024 19:28 (three months ago) link
I received an offer a few years ago for an NHS health check, it consisted of some bored minion asking me vastly generalised questions and tapping the results into a tablet. Possibly they'd have recommended I go to see an actual doctor if the answers had brought up anything potentially fatal. Couldn't have been more of a waste of time!
― the deep cut is the firstest (Matt #2), Friday, 30 August 2024 20:18 (three months ago) link
Turns out the guy who Sam Tarry was deselected for, Jas Athwal, is a slum landlord. Only the best quality candidates!
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 30 August 2024 20:23 (three months ago) link
the biggest slumlord in parliament of any party, the squalor of his properties mainly characterised by the presence of black mold and ants. He described himself as a renter's champion because his rents were lower than market value. Just typing this shit in the hope that someone tells me I'm making it up.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 30 August 2024 20:34 (three months ago) link
Matt mine was pretty much like that although they did take blood and did a number of tests.
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 August 2024 20:47 (three months ago) link
The BBC claimed that tenants who had shown their reporter mould and ants inside the flats, and given interviews about the conditions, were then contacted by the property manager.“After receiving these calls they became hesitant about talking to me. This appeared to me to be intimidation,” the BBC’s reporter Joe Pike claimed.In a statement on Friday night, Athwal said he was “shocked” by the condition of his properties and that he was “profoundly sorry”.“It was my understanding all the licences for my properties were up to date, but I have recently seen an email which shared that licences are due to expire, I am in the process of renewing all licences,” he said.“I’m proud to rent out homes with secure tenancies at below-market rents.“I want every one of my tenants to have excellent accommodation; I’m shocked at the reported condition of a number of the properties and have asked the managing agent for an explanation and immediate action to rectify any issues.”
“After receiving these calls they became hesitant about talking to me. This appeared to me to be intimidation,” the BBC’s reporter Joe Pike claimed.
In a statement on Friday night, Athwal said he was “shocked” by the condition of his properties and that he was “profoundly sorry”.
“It was my understanding all the licences for my properties were up to date, but I have recently seen an email which shared that licences are due to expire, I am in the process of renewing all licences,” he said.
“I’m proud to rent out homes with secure tenancies at below-market rents.
“I want every one of my tenants to have excellent accommodation; I’m shocked at the reported condition of a number of the properties and have asked the managing agent for an explanation and immediate action to rectify any issues.”
The 'immediate action' to be paid for by a doubling of the service charge no doubt!
― the deep cut is the firstest (Matt #2), Friday, 30 August 2024 21:43 (three months ago) link
Haven't had custard in a long time.
Who remembers? pic.twitter.com/QbhMJvrJqf— Eyup Lovely (@eyuplovely) August 30, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 31 August 2024 07:07 (three months ago) link
ah those days when a kid would accidentally pick up a white dogshit after mistaking it for a golf ball
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 31 August 2024 08:22 (three months ago) link
Those days when dogs shat white turds.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Saturday, 31 August 2024 08:24 (three months ago) link
Dunno, I quite liked "Definitely Maybe"
― Mark G, Saturday, 31 August 2024 08:44 (three months ago) link
Re: Athwal, ofc Lab were never going after the press via Leveson but I do wonder about their pact. Lab are so corrupt the press could really eat them up and the case of this minor backbench slumlord MP points that way imo
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 31 August 2024 12:10 (three months ago) link
i bet Peter Hendy is thanking his lucky stars that the Athwal story dropped
Let's post some receipts, for the benefit of anyone attempting to defend @LordPeterHendy, @SYSTRA_UKIRL and @NetworkRail's actions in some way. Because I have a folder of this stuff. pic.twitter.com/LqI2P2WuNc— Gareth Dennis (@GarethDennis) August 30, 2024
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2024 12:15 (three months ago) link
what am i saying? the likes of Hendy don't have a guilt gene, they just believe in their natural right to destroy anybody who irks them
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2024 12:16 (three months ago) link
One slumlord bullied off, 100000 to go.
I am shocked and sickened by the series of problems that have come to light. I had not been aware of these issues until this week, for which I am furious. I have immediately dismissed the managing agent of my properties. (1/3)— Jas Athwal MP (@Jas_Athwal) September 1, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 September 2024 10:28 (three months ago) link
Not actually off*, but he might do something for his tenants, which is not nothing.
* his head off, which would've happened during the cultural revolution.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 September 2024 10:30 (three months ago) link
land reform movement, not cultural revolution
the CR was enacted p much entirely within the party, its (much younger) lower-rank cadres encouraged to attack older lower-management layers, with the announced purpose of shaking out crusted and unevolved ideas as if they were a pre-revolutionary hangover, but with the actual purpose of ensuring that upper level layers (and mao above all) need no longer be encumbered by the sluggishness of those below them enacting whatever whims might emanate from party central. CR is really a kind of a largescale proto-thatcherite spasm, where the purity of theory is deployed to sweep away the stubborn expertise and information-rich connectivity of those with hard-won experience of the situation on the ground
the CR was beloved of the cohort western radical cohort that went on staff its neoliberal mirror -- which is probably why its long-term consequence is state capitalism with chinese characteristics, and also why china three generations on has 20% of the world's billionaires
― mark s, Sunday, 1 September 2024 11:11 (three months ago) link
"whic is probably why" -- lol sorry, i rewrote this and fucked up the causality, better wd be "sadly unsurprising, given that its"
― mark s, Sunday, 1 September 2024 11:14 (three months ago) link
the land reform movement was very messy, lots of middle level peasants who weren't actually landlords got brutally exterminated as well. He had to deliver on that shit because land redistribution to lower peasants was his flagship policy and the most key one in getting people behind the party during the civil war. It was fun times!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 1 September 2024 11:40 (three months ago) link
Thank you for the corrections. I have only seen the tweets.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 September 2024 12:19 (three months ago) link
Govt minister Lucy Powell says the UK economy would have crashed & there would have been a run on the pound if the universal winter fuel allowance for pensioners wasn't scrapped.Education secretary Bridget Phillipson is asked if that's correct. pic.twitter.com/9YZktpRaDp— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) September 2, 2024
I too believe that an economic crash/run on sterling would have been a credible scenario caused by not cutting winter fuel payments, that would have been the back-breaking straw. Then again I have replaced my brain with mushy peas.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 September 2024 07:39 (three months ago) link
I think you’ll find that’s guacamole
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 2 September 2024 08:18 (three months ago) link
She would've done some devilish schoolgirl smirk off camera.
They think they are so clever.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 September 2024 08:41 (three months ago) link
The swift drink from the paper cup shows she was not expecting this particular question.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Monday, 2 September 2024 09:23 (three months ago) link
The first disaster this administration might deal with is Euston falling apart.
NEW: PM's spokesman says he has full confidence in Peter Hendy following revelations last week https://t.co/KAdCQDgU0S— Esther Webber (@estwebber) September 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 September 2024 11:59 (three months ago) link
I walked through there earlier and UGH it’s easy to feel sorry for anyone who uses that station regularly.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Monday, 2 September 2024 12:05 (three months ago) link
omg i did not know the detail about hendy giving £10 oyster cards to the call girl he was “having an affair” with.. i didn’t think it could get much lower than the identical hampers that derek jeter gifted his one-night stands but well
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 September 2024 12:07 (three months ago) link
conspiracy connections: dead billionaire yachtsman Mike Lynch was a Letsby is innocent truther and was attempting some kind of legal appeal on her behalf with David Davis before he died
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 September 2024 13:45 (three months ago) link
🚨 NEW: Keir Starmer's entire Cabinet forgot to wish him a happy birthday at this morning's meeting [@HugoGye]— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) September 2, 2024
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 2 September 2024 16:00 (three months ago) link
deliveroo drivers beware, kieth is going to be fucking fuming all day
of COURSE his birthday is now, he has absolutely incredible 'oldest kid in the school year' energy
― imago, Monday, 2 September 2024 16:16 (three months ago) link
lmao dying at this
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 September 2024 16:17 (three months ago) link
i'd like to picture him sat at the Cabinet table with one of those big 62 badges on but refusing to say anything and everybody else just ignoring it
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 September 2024 16:22 (three months ago) link
exactly lol
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 September 2024 17:02 (three months ago) link
his approval rating has dropped nearly 30% since the GE and now it seems his entire cabinet hates him as well. He must have approved of his spokesperson mentioning it, what a drip!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 September 2024 17:05 (three months ago) link
“i like to think i’m able to laugh at myself, ha ha”
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 September 2024 17:07 (three months ago) link
well, it would be optics with these fuckers. They don't know any other way.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 September 2024 17:09 (three months ago) link
The prime minister himself has a reputation for remembering important dates of his own family and friends. In his biography of Starmer, the journalist Tom Baldwin writes: “He maintains a vast network of friends and is assiduous in remembering anniversaries or meeting up for the big birthdays – 40, 50 and now 60 – as well as funerals.”The book also reveals how Starmer enjoys dancing at his friends’ birthday parties.
The book also reveals how Starmer enjoys dancing at his friends’ birthday parties.
this detail cheered me up a bit
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 September 2024 17:45 (three months ago) link
when Uncle Kieth is at the wedding reception and he makes the DJ play "She Sells Sanctuary" while he frugs away biting his bottom lip and all the kids fuck off outside for a quick vape
wait i think i know what he's got against outside smoking
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 September 2024 18:00 (three months ago) link
Hang on, he's younger than me?
― Mark G, Monday, 2 September 2024 18:06 (three months ago) link
New Fabian report recommending a watering down of worker rights for gig workers is sponsored by, errr, Evri!The jokes, they write themselves! pic.twitter.com/dQAoLQpGdM— James Farrar (@jamesfarrar) September 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 September 2024 12:28 (three months ago) link
Just so sad.
An 80-year-old dog walker who died after ‘a group of young people’ allegedly attacked him in a park in Leicestershire has been named locally as Bhim KohliFive children – three aged 12, the others 14 – have been arrested on suspicion of his murder https://t.co/EqKw1txf9a— Metro (@MetroUK) September 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 September 2024 21:28 (three months ago) link
🚨 Grenfell Inquiry report 🚨- "Complacent" govt "well aware" of risk of cladding disaster but failed to act- "Systematic dishonesty" by product manufacturers "very significant reason" for fire- "Chronic and systemic" fire safety failures by tower's social landlords— Peter Apps (@PeteApps) September 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 11:04 (three months ago) link
look just because the government, industry and landlords were well aware of the immense risks of flammable cladding long before grenfell happened doesn't mean we should sow division today by visiting any consequences whatsoever on anyone involved
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 11:40 (three months ago) link
Bout time Labour abolish inquiries, a pointless drain on the public purse
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 11:43 (three months ago) link
Just a great time for Cleverley to recite from the back of a battered beermat a "one in, two out" on business regulation.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 12:49 (three months ago) link
This will surely put a dent in Reeves' pfi housebuilding project ⚆ _ ⚆
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 12:55 (three months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/sep/04/grenfell-is-simply-explained-firms-chased-profits-ministers-sat-on-their-hands-innocents-paid-with-their-lives
"Eric Pickles, secretary of state during the key period in the early 2010s, angrily insisted when questioned back in 2022 that building regulations relating to fire safety were exempt from this push – and that he would never have allowed a deregulatory agenda to compromise life safety.
But the report says that evidence was “flatly contradicted by that of his officials and the contemporaneous documents”, which made it abundantly clear that the government believed the construction sector should be left out of the bothersome reach of meddling bureaucrats and should be allowed to forge its own, innovative path."
Starmer is protecting ministers sounding the alarm bell on safety risks at Euston station...from one tragedy to a potential one. How many lives?
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 21:22 (three months ago) link
I've spoken of harsh sentencing in the riots on another thread.
Nothing is too harsh for this dick.
https://news.sky.com/story/tragedies-like-grenfell-cannot-be-completely-avoided-says-sir-tony-blair-13210164?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 September 2024 07:32 (three months ago) link
Sir Tony also revealed he was "involved quite a lot" in the Middle East
is this news? also something about people constantly talking about "getting" a ceasefire - it is quite jarring, along the lines of someone placing a food order via "I'm going to get"
― conrad, Friday, 6 September 2024 09:49 (three months ago) link
"involved quite a lot" in the Middle East
lmao well that's one way to put it
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 6 September 2024 09:53 (three months ago) link
he's always talking himself up as a great candidate for Middle East peace negotiator, it's quite sick and twisted really. Like a mass shooter going back to the school they shot up to give a talk on responsible gun ownership.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 6 September 2024 11:56 (three months ago) link
Asked what he believed his "biggest mistake" was while in government, Sir Tony said: "I always say to people, it's for me to know and others to find out - but I'm sure there's a lot of people who would say it's over post 9/11 and Afghanistan and Iraq and so on.
Well. Hmm.
Some might say that what with Grenfell, the unravelling NHS, universal credit, insane housing situation, we are finding out, but he makes it sound like he's hidden little easter eggs for us to discover, more time bombs in the state waiting to go off
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 6 September 2024 15:18 (three months ago) link
Sir Tony said: "I always say to people, it's for me to know and others to find out - but I'm sure there's a lot of people who would say it's over post 9/11 and Afghanistan and Iraq and so on."
He wouldn't though.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Friday, 6 September 2024 15:22 (three months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/sep/06/keir-starmer-vows-to-stop-people-smuggling-gangs-with-tactics-used-to-jail-rioters
“I’m absolutely determined to take the same approach here: active government, an operational summit, making sure that we are going to retake control of our borders, take these gangs down,” he said.
Asked by the BBC if he might consider opening more safe routes for asylum seekers – a majority of those who cross the Channel are subsequently granted asylum – Starmer dismissed the suggestion.
I hear they don't like it up 'em! This is guaranteed to work.
― the deep cut is the firstest (Matt #2), Friday, 6 September 2024 18:50 (three months ago) link
Aysenur Eygi seemed like an exceptional person. May she rest in peace. pic.twitter.com/lnMm2BqKGg— Laila Al-Arian (@LailaAlarian) September 7, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 September 2024 11:47 (three months ago) link
Wrong thread
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 September 2024 11:48 (three months ago) link
Well it is and it isn't
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 September 2024 12:06 (three months ago) link
Sir Could Be Warmer spending all the political capital from his resounding mandate on *check notes* ending signature labour policy of winter fuel allowance
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 8 September 2024 09:37 (three months ago) link
someone should have warmed warned voters that he has a long track record of being an unprincipled lying piece of shit. Then they'd have known him saying that was there was going to be no more austerity that it was bullshit. Although tbf him and Reeves telegraphed that there was going to be SHITLOADS of more austerity as well during the campaign. It is just a pity he wasn't bulshitting about this instead.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 8 September 2024 10:07 (three months ago) link
yeah the whole manifesto was austerity + police state
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2024 10:41 (three months ago) link
A lot of landlords in this island.
the idea of 9,000 millionaires leaving Britain sounds dramatic until you remember there are 2,849,000 millionaires in this country it’s literally a rounding error given the ebb and flow of migration pic.twitter.com/MuWCjvPgyx— Jim Pickard 🐋 (@PickardJE) September 7, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 09:43 (three months ago) link
heaven forfend we lose the vital contributions of 9,000 tax-dodging wealth-hoarders
meanwhile camilla is giving me major
https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-7zV6emLzZ6kBqlQ8-GrWaiA-t500x500.jpg
vibes
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 10:22 (three months ago) link
David Lynch has let himself go a bit.
Is 9000 millionaires leaving the UK anti-growth? I certainly don't give a fuck.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 11:01 (three months ago) link
Parasites threaten to leave the host if source of delicious blood cut off could be a headline from any year since at least 1900
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 11:39 (three months ago) link
I'll be so sad if Mick Jagger fucks off to France again ;;
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 12:03 (three months ago) link
Winter poxy fule payments. It's a good job that Starmer and various gimps keep repeating on tv that they're prepared to be unpopular for making the "tough choices", cos, well
They'll be limping onwards at last years Tory polling forgoes by Christmas at this rate
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 12:50 (three months ago) link
*figures
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 12:51 (three months ago) link
How on earth this has become the hill they’ll die on is just beyond me. Is this really how they drew it up??
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 13:21 (three months ago) link
No Labour MPs have enough principles (and balls) to vote against it so they won't be dying on any hill. Pensioners however will be dying in cold houses.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 13:35 (three months ago) link
maybe they've calculated doing all the most evil cuts in the first year of their term will give them time to recover the lukewarm goodwill of voters that they have pissed off in record time for a new govt.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 13:59 (three months ago) link
They are two diametrically opposed possibilities: either they are really cunning, smart genius political operators who have planned out everything to the smallest degree, from policy to public support, or, they are rank hare-brained amateurs whose main motivation is revenge on the left of the party and they are praying for the kind of favourable media coverage that enabled them to scrape a majority on 33.7% to continue.
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 14:19 (three months ago) link
apparently there are almost a million pensioners entitled to pension credit who don't claim it. So theoretically if this pushed vast numbers of them to claim it then it could end up costing more, than if these dickheads had just left WFA alone in the first place.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 16:42 (three months ago) link
Yeah, it's cheaper to give it to everyone above a certain age, than set up and staff another "department of making things difficult" etc
― Mark G, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 16:47 (three months ago) link
These cunts don't love anything more than getting to say "well, if you'd filled in the forms right, we wouldn't be having this conversation", though.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 11 September 2024 19:13 (three months ago) link
Mr. Starmer said in comments his office released on Wednesday that he was working on a 10-year plan that could amount to the “biggest reimagining of our N.H.S.” since its creation in 1948.
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 12 September 2024 07:09 (three months ago) link
one of the things I heard they are proposing is redirecting funding from big "inefficient" NHS trusts into community healthcare. ffs it's like they are just brainstorming what every right-wing think tank or tory cunt has said in the last 14 years, just try anything but fund the NHS adequately.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 12 September 2024 07:54 (three months ago) link
Amol Rajan asked Streeting this morning if Labour planned on any capital investment at all given that this was underfunded even before COVID and he just straight up started talking about something else
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 12 September 2024 08:01 (three months ago) link
Yeah the bullet point from the report summary saying "austerity made this worse" not getting a huuuuge amount of attention either
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 12 September 2024 08:20 (three months ago) link
Look, Change means Change
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2024 11:43 (three months ago) link
There's no voice whatsoever for this fella among the people juggling his life.
Steven Quinn was released from Brixton prison today as part of the government's early release scheme to free up space in UK jails. In total, he says he's spent 27 years of his life in the prison system and he has little hope that he will be able to stay out again this time. pic.twitter.com/oqXQHDw9td— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) September 10, 2024
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 12 September 2024 12:00 (three months ago) link
Saw Streeting on Sky News this morning asked about the fact that Lord Darzi, who produced this latest NHS report, had resigned as a Labour peer when Corbyn was leader. "Yes, well we dealt with him didn't we?" Him being Corbyn. Such an obnoxious prick.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 September 2024 12:34 (three months ago) link
Days in government before governing party's polling average went under 30 percent:1993 Major - 3971968 Wilson - 6642019 May - 6751981 Thatcher - 6762022 Johnson - 7622008 Brown - 1,0822004 Blair - 1,1042024 Starmer - 70? pic.twitter.com/LW5OJenkyv— Owen Winter (@OwenWntr) September 13, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 13 September 2024 15:10 (three months ago) link
This is the best possible use of data analysis
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 September 2024 15:11 (three months ago) link
Kieth loves Thatcher so much he's brought back the fear of impending nuclear war as a tribute
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 September 2024 11:33 (three months ago) link
the difference being when Blinken tells him to pipe down he'll say sorry sir, won't do it again and scurry back into his hole.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 14 September 2024 12:10 (three months ago) link
Remarkable, this mindset of constantly looking at elections, polls, popularity when we've just had an election and are many years away from another general..
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/14/its-nil-nil-labour-warned-the-political-race-with-the-conservatives-isnt-over
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 September 2024 19:50 (three months ago) link
6 month self-suspension coming up!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/14/keir-starmer-alleged-to-have-broken-parliamentary-rules-over-gifts-to-wife
A Conservative party spokesperson said: “It’s taken just 10 weeks for Keir Starmer to face an investigation for his conduct.“After facing allegations of cronyism and now apparent serious breaches of parliamentary rules there must be a full investigation into the passes for glasses scandal.“No doubt the millions of vulnerable pensioners across the country who face choosing between heating and eating would jump at the chance for free clothes just to keep warm in the face of Labour’s cruel cut.”
“After facing allegations of cronyism and now apparent serious breaches of parliamentary rules there must be a full investigation into the passes for glasses scandal.
“No doubt the millions of vulnerable pensioners across the country who face choosing between heating and eating would jump at the chance for free clothes just to keep warm in the face of Labour’s cruel cut.”
Tories otm
― jam up the pump (Matt #2), Saturday, 14 September 2024 21:12 (three months ago) link
should have gone to specsavers
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 14 September 2024 22:03 (three months ago) link
almost feel like kier actually would suspend himself just to show the haters.
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 14 September 2024 22:57 (three months ago) link
it's weird as a government employee i would reflexively decline if a member of the public offered me so much as a breath mint, but apparently if i was in government i could just live off the kindness of strangers and not worry about it
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 September 2024 07:46 (three months ago) link
I could understand if it was a greedy, corrupt cabinet minister like Lammy, who had to be dragged away with a sad face from his lucrative GB news gig a couple of months before the GE and is addicted to large donations. But I always understood that more so than a Tory one, a Labour PM has to be cleaner than clean as they can be, everything on the books. Did this dumb fuck think this would go under the radar?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 15 September 2024 09:01 (three months ago) link
He doesn't seem to be aware of the fact that nobody likes him, even the people that voted for him.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 September 2024 09:15 (three months ago) link
everyone is quick to hate on keir starmer but you should follow him on vinted, he just posted a load of good stuff— Dan Douglas (@dandouglas) September 15, 2024
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 September 2024 14:59 (three months ago) link
https://theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/14/corbyn-had-flown-too-close-to-the-sun-how-labour-insiders-battled-the-left-and-plotted-the-partys-path-back-to-power🙃🙃🙃🙃
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Sunday, 15 September 2024 15:14 (three months ago) link
This McSweeney character is something else.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 September 2024 15:18 (three months ago) link
Quite something to be wined and dined by a wing of the party and not think that a story worth reporting
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Sunday, 15 September 2024 15:25 (three months ago) link
if McSweeney wasn't there would things have panned out any differently? There were already enough people within Labour working to undermine Corbynism. Their wasn't any need for some genius strategist to work out a path to power against a historically fucked Tory party. He's just a minor player who was in the right place at the right time imo and quite possibly as dumb as any of the fuckwits around the Starmer office.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 15 September 2024 15:44 (three months ago) link
he's a piece of shit for sure, but like Starmer - not a very interesting piece of shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 15 September 2024 15:48 (three months ago) link
you never get a sense of anything going on in his brain other than he's a competent POLITICAL opportunist and thinks Blair is unassailably great because of the GFA
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 15 September 2024 15:51 (three months ago) link
ACCIDENTAL CAPS!
McSweeney later told a friend that he saw this as Corbyn’s “Icarus moment”, in which he imagined the Labour leader standing backstage at Glastonbury with a choice: take that election result and turn to the country to cement the deal; or walk into the warm embrace of festivalgoers, who (McSweeney believed) were unrepresentative of the wider electorate. To him, Corbyn had just flown too close to the sun.
he is being paraphrased by a "friend" here, but I guess whatever he said was a profound statement from a deep thinker that really nailed that moment when Corbyn took the wrong path. Never mind that he was turning up at other events and milking the crowd just like at Glasto multiple times in the same period. I don't why I'm still posting about him, but I'm convinced he's actually a bit thick and not very good at what he does.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 15 September 2024 17:06 (three months ago) link
Seems like the kind of galaxy brain who'll always convince himself his actions were key to any sequence of events that occurred, not that I read much of the article as I had enough of crotch-thrusting New Labour types back in the 90s.
― jam up the pump (Matt #2), Sunday, 15 September 2024 17:25 (three months ago) link
If your application for winter fuel payments fail here is an alternative form to fill.
🚨 Assisted dying is expected to be fast-tracked through Parliamenthttps://t.co/JSgEOH5EGt— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) September 15, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 September 2024 08:52 (three months ago) link
Today, Keir Starmer has been in Italy to discuss migration with Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni and see what the UK can learn about reducing small boat crossings. He's praised the country's "remarkable progress" on tackling irregular migration.
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 September 2024 17:23 (three months ago) link
Disgusting.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 16 September 2024 17:29 (three months ago) link
endorsing fascists and legitimising their agenda, nothing to see here
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 16 September 2024 17:48 (three months ago) link
Analysis: Starmer puts ‘pragmatism’ before perceptions in meeting with Meloni
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 September 2024 18:19 (three months ago) link
Finally the fascist appeaser PM the UK's been waiting for since 1938
― jam up the pump (Matt #2), Monday, 16 September 2024 18:20 (three months ago) link
Starmer sulking because he’s getting criticism for accepting free clothes and arsenal tickets is such hilarious shit, like he genuinely thinks he’s being unfairly criticised when he’s telling old people there’s not enough money to heat their homes
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 10:32 (three months ago) link
he says he can't purchase corporate hospitality tickets because of security issues, gimme a fucking break you freeloading bullshit merchant! it amazes me he doesn't see what a bad look this is when he has made the political decision to write off 4000 winter deaths as an acceptable trade off for more austerity. CUNT!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 10:40 (three months ago) link
Maybe him and Jezwell Corby can split the cost of an executive box?
― jam up the pump (Matt #2), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 10:56 (three months ago) link
Starmer's position is that he is so honourable and principled that he couldn't possibly be bribed or influenced by freebie tickets to matches, suits or holidays. So the more freebie tickets, holidays and suits he accepts the more he can show how honourable and un-bribeable he is— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) September 17, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 10:58 (three months ago) link
I heard some stupid Sky correspondent saying this morning that because of Starmer's deprived childhood as the son of a toolmaker he maybe feels he is entitled to revel in the comforts of life that go with his current status.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 11:10 (three months ago) link
Lmaohttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXq-BTYWkAAQ5bD?format=png&name=medium
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 11:28 (three months ago) link
She's not having a good morning, earlier today she got savaged over Starmer chumming around with Italian fascists by Kay Burley of all people.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 11:42 (three months ago) link
“robert peston where are you?"
https://i.imgur.com/NrCGSYM.png
― mark s, Tuesday, 17 September 2024 11:44 (three months ago) link
I don’t think the idea that the PM needs to look presentable on the word stage and it’s better for clothes to be provided by supporters of the party than be an expense of the state is a particularly hard argument to make, tbh, but both the hospitality element and the apparent need to appear pugnacious under any mild questioning are hilarious. Do you expect me to MISS THE ERAS TOUR just because I’m Prime Minister?!?!! etc
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 17 September 2024 12:20 (three months ago) link
obv on a pm salary alls you can afford is the mothball ridden dead people's clothes from Oxfam that no other fucker wants to buy, come on ffs!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 12:52 (three months ago) link
I think he should appear on the world stage naked but for a barrell, to highlight the dire situation the tories have left the country in, it would be a hilarious Lead By Donkeys level stunt.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 17 September 2024 13:04 (three months ago) link
lol, for maximum effect: trying to sell apples to other G7 leaders so he can make up his bus fare home
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 13:08 (three months ago) link
trying to sell apples UK infrastructure to other G7 leaders so he can make up his bus fare home
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 17 September 2024 13:28 (three months ago) link
They’re so dumb on the clothes front, and that goes for every possible left politician. I met Jeremy Corbyn shortly before he won the leadership and mentioned that the UK fashion industry has 800,000 jobs and brought in £21 billion a year (in 2015, it’s now £26 billion) so he could maybe start wearing some of it and explaining that? There are worse ways to tell someone that they’re approaching the makeover montage section of the movie. To be fair to him, I think he figured it out eventually (along with realising those 800K working in fashion are mostly voters under 40).
Starmer has clearly offended the fates or whatever because none of the briefcases have noticed we are in the middle of the 40th London Fashion Week. PMs have to pay for their suits because they are generally bespoke, but it’s easy to promote Savile Row as an essential part of British fashion. I’d advise them, rather than have Waheed Alli get a bunch of tat from Me and Em for Vic Starmer to wear, she should be calling in dresses to borrow for official functions. FFS Erdem, McQueen, Burberry, Margaret Howell et al are one phone call away, would be happy to dress her, and it would be good for business generally.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 14:03 (three months ago) link
I'm blithely ignorant about this stuff and I wondered why she didn't go down the borrowing route yesh
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 14:16 (three months ago) link
aiui, she has an arrangement with Edeline Lee for borrowing event dresses.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 17 September 2024 14:24 (three months ago) link
Weird choice. It might be advisable to cast the net wider.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 14:27 (three months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/18/keir-starmer-100000-in-tickets-and-gifts-more-than-any-other-recent-party-leader
If Starmer was a proper cunt he'd announce Levenson 2 over this.
But he's a coward, more than anything.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 September 2024 12:21 (three months ago) link
Sue Gray being paid more than Starmer is exceptionally funny you have to say
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Wednesday, 18 September 2024 12:28 (three months ago) link
Maybe Mrs Starmer could borrow one of her dresses.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 September 2024 12:31 (three months ago) link
Evening Standard dead. RMT alive. https://t.co/hf0cDtI9PT— Ewan Gibbs (@ewangibbs) September 19, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 September 2024 13:54 (three months ago) link
There is ofc another option for KS. Not go to matches at all at the Emirates until he is no longer PM! It's ridiculous that he sees it a binary choice between accepting hospitality and someone attacking him in the stands.
― Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 19 September 2024 17:49 (three months ago) link
During Azerbarjan’s ethnic cleansing of Nagorno-Karabakh, it issued maps renaming streets after the main instigators of the 1915 Armenian genocide. David Lammy calls this liberation. https://t.co/f7s8Bcjbxx— Karl Hansen (@karl_fh) September 19, 2024
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Thursday, 19 September 2024 19:21 (three months ago) link
this was another situation where a civilian population were being starved by a blockade before being ethnically cleansed. I guess when you start your govt career having smiley photo ops with war criminal Bibi in the first week then a revisionist take on ethnic cleansing is what you need.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 19 September 2024 19:57 (three months ago) link
if you look at Lammy's register of interests, he's one of greediest most corrupt fuckers in parliament. Nearly 10 grand worth of corporate hospitality at Spurs for the North London derby. One of his biggest donors, Tony Lubner - lovely guy if you if you were pro Apartheid in the 80's. No wonder this cunt has no principles.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 19 September 2024 20:15 (three months ago) link
"It's ridiculous that he sees it a binary choice between accepting hospitality and someone attacking him in the stands."
My theory on Kieth is that he only became a "lifelong Gooner" in the last 10-15 years through corporate freebie tickets and is too embarrassed to admit that he doesn't even know how to purchase match day tickets because he has never done it before.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 19 September 2024 20:37 (three months ago) link
Honestly I don't care about realness here, tho it's a solid point. The absolu
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 September 2024 20:47 (three months ago) link
Whoops slippy thumb.
The absolute disregard that Lammy and Kieth have for human life, never mind any potential legal quibbles - these are very broken, immoral people and ffs some of you ticked their box
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 September 2024 20:51 (three months ago) link
damn, all that austerity we did didn't work. guess we'll just have to keep doing it https://t.co/kN8kwse7sn— David East (@davideastUK) September 20, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 September 2024 10:45 (three months ago) link
wow, it's funny but also makes you think...quite rare for a tattoo these days.— Y (@tinscognito__) September 21, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 September 2024 13:02 (three months ago) link
Click to see what that is in response to, for a little surprise.
🤢
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 21 September 2024 13:29 (three months ago) link
Reform’s Labour's conference is all blame, grumpiness – and no idea how to fix things
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Fixed The Guardian's headline
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 September 2024 13:32 (three months ago) link
thangham must be still pissed. I can't imagine a sober person getting such a dreadful tattoo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 September 2024 13:55 (three months ago) link
tbh i'm just grateful she's not on breakfast TV every fucking single day
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 September 2024 13:57 (three months ago) link
Not taking losing their seats very well, these ghouls.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 September 2024 13:57 (three months ago) link
They were told they could not have it all their own way, for a change, so now we have to see them sulk.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 September 2024 13:59 (three months ago) link
hegemonic monogovernment without the hegemony just is no fun is it
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 21 September 2024 14:43 (three months ago) link
Utterly disgraceful. MPs should look like professionals, not goths. This is electoral poison. Show me one person who would vote for this. Get it removed now— Eyup Lovely (@eyuplovely) April 29, 2024
― symsymsym, Saturday, 21 September 2024 19:54 (three months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/21/honeymoon-over-keir-starmer-now-less-popular-than-rishi-sunak
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 22 September 2024 07:32 (three months ago) link
quite predictable, some of the most vacuous and evil, personality-sterile people in PLP front bench history, put in the spotlight for a few months and lo behold .. the penny drops that its more of the same and everyone fucking hates them!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 September 2024 07:49 (three months ago) link
It's boring and pointless to go on about the failures of 2017 and 2019 but this government is measurably less popular than those losing Labour campaigns and the country is now deep into a swelling, media-backed fascist movement built at least in part on the structural brokenness that Starmer is proudly refusing to address.
This is the least surprising loss of "popularity" ever
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:07 (three months ago) link
i don't know if this is a historically significant level of political division in the UK or if it's just the weird tinny feedback of the current media ecosystem plus the success of Trumpesque neo-fash rhetoric in being taken up by the always-been-among-us bigot community plus the martyrs of FBPE who've never been vocal about anything before because they never gave a fuck. feels like there's a huge number of genuinely marginalised people now sat helplessly watching two cadres of the petit-bourgeoisie slugging it out in public, maybe chucking some votes to the Greens until they find a way to render themselves completely unreliable again
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:17 (three months ago) link
Whoever you vote for, the lack of governance is the one you can be sure of.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:21 (three months ago) link
just think what happens if we have a really severe winter weather-wise
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:21 (three months ago) link
Bridget Phillipson is asked why Lord Alli gave her £14,000. She explains part of it was used to fund a birthday party for her 40th where she invited colleagues and journalists. #trevorphillips pic.twitter.com/UhTWimhkfE— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) September 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:22 (three months ago) link
feels like we’re just in the foothills here. all the stuff around the election suggested kieth’s party was crawling with lobbyists
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:24 (three months ago) link
you can't expect someone like Starmer, with the intellectual make-up of a talking centrist barbie doll to be brave or bold enough to address complex issues, unfortunately for us all it's all way beyond him
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:24 (three months ago) link
extremely funny watching them squirm though
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:25 (three months ago) link
one of the only political pleasures left to us
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:27 (three months ago) link
every Labour MP being interviewed this week pic.twitter.com/wHqm0mGfbg— donked by ladies (@AckAckGunz) September 22, 2024
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 September 2024 09:07 (three months ago) link
if starmer tries hard enough maybe he can manage to get knifed before he's been pm for a year
― ufo, Sunday, 22 September 2024 10:19 (three months ago) link
The ‘why now?’ element is the interesting part. Labour hasn’t really done anything to upset the market, other than potentially be even too conservative in outlook, the Tories aren’t in a position to benefit much, Leveson 2 isn’t on the table. If there is a concerted push to take Starmer down, it’s not immediately clear who it helps - other, potentially, than Wes Streeting,
― ShariVari, Sunday, 22 September 2024 10:25 (three months ago) link
i don't think this is a concerted push? more like a bit of gentle reminding where the power lies, plus some stuff that is out there and difficult for the media to absolutely ignore - altho notably they're focusing on the clothes and not the offshore fund private healthcare shit - plus Labor Right scumbags doing what they naturally do to each other.
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 September 2024 10:34 (three months ago) link
you've gotta believe that e.g. Streeting is probably not patient enough to let Kieth naturally fall out of favour in his own time
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 September 2024 10:35 (three months ago) link
Other than the Victoria Starmer bit, all this has been in the public domain for ages, going back before the election. Pressing them on it now, pretty much to the exclusion of everything else, feels quite pointed and, yes, the most obvious answer might be internal Labour politics.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 22 September 2024 10:43 (three months ago) link
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that nobody likes this cunt Starmer and the people he's surrounded him with are equally detestable. How Angela Rayner can stand it I have no idea.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 September 2024 10:45 (three months ago) link
wasn't the idea about her that she was, if not always one of the lobbyists types, strangely amenable to becoming one
― imago, Sunday, 22 September 2024 10:54 (three months ago) link
Hilarious.
Ellie Reeves MP says “ Labour's GE victory was only possible because under Keir’s leadership we changed the party”Changed it into an organisation whose leaders are in the pocket of millionaires? pic.twitter.com/nJonUMtFI9— Diane Abbott (@HackneyAbbott) September 21, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 September 2024 13:45 (three months ago) link
was just catching some news on bbc TV, and quite abruptly, they interrupted something interesting to play a live feed of Lammy's bombastic, bullshit conference speech. Haven't they got the memo yet? Minus 18 pts approval rating, everyone hates the cunt, and not just the racists this time.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 September 2024 13:59 (three months ago) link
Have been seeing a couple of tweets about Euston chaos today...
The fact that they promised to improve Euston only to reveal that all this actually consisted of was replacing the platform signage with a colossal advertising screen – somehow making the worst station in London even worse – feels quite indicative of the current state of the UK— Hannah Williams (@hkatewilliams) September 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 September 2024 19:50 (three months ago) link
I'd that the same signage they used in Nightsleeper for the messages from The Driver?
― koogs, Sunday, 22 September 2024 20:19 (three months ago) link
lol I figured Diane used a low res pic of Kieth even though it was hard to tell on my phone screen earlier
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 September 2024 20:45 (three months ago) link
disrespectful
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 September 2024 22:20 (three months ago) link
(deliciously so)
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 September 2024 22:21 (three months ago) link
uite abruptly, they interrupted something interesting to play a live feed of Lammy's bombas
Did any of Corbyn's speeches ever get any kind of coverage on TV like this, ever?
― Mark G, Sunday, 22 September 2024 23:39 (three months ago) link
What a dumbo.
This “scandal” has got so stupid. We’re meant to be cross about guest list places? https://t.co/ADlGq28TgQ— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) September 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 September 2024 08:11 (two months ago) link
Expecting the ire to turn towards the folk innocently bombarding these hapless MPs with freebies any day now oh wait.
― nashwan, Monday, 23 September 2024 08:32 (two months ago) link
Unite keep doing nothing.
🚨 @UKLabour leadership blocks @unitetheunion winter fuel conference motion!Right now it is fair to say that the Labour leaders have tried to silence the voice of pensioners, workers and communities at party conference in this blatant manoeuvre to block debate on winter fuel…— Sharon Graham (@UniteSharon) September 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 September 2024 12:43 (two months ago) link
Reeves bellowing "changed Labour party... service of working people... no longer a party of protest" is an absolute nightmare come to life, as well as making no sense whatsoever. The guy is now protesting the government.. Also handily implies that working people don't and shouldn't worry their little heads about Britain's role in foreign wars/genocide
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 23 September 2024 13:11 (two months ago) link
I guess we should all just sit down and shut up
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 September 2024 13:19 (two months ago) link
if this appalling party want to get elected again they need to start restoring LA budgets towards 2010 levels. Then a lot of broken things might slowly start working again. Saying "no more austerity" is precisely what the Tories kept repeating for the last 5 years, and it doesn't go down well with people who see with their own eyes more and vital services/social care etc being run to the ground because the funding is gone.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 23 September 2024 14:44 (two months ago) link
What the expenses scandals show is they are, like all the pol class, on another reality.
The people responsible for this will go back to their NGOs/lawyering jobs/ PR/consultancy, etc. Once they lose in five years, if the country isn't on fire. All these MPs have a backup plan.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 September 2024 15:00 (two months ago) link
https://www.globalwitness.org/en/campaigns/fossil-gas/oil-and-gas-linked-groups-sponsor-fifth-climate-events-upcoming-labour-conference/
no really tho it's just a few tickets and clothes how dare you compare Labour to the corrupt Tories?
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 September 2024 18:17 (two months ago) link
Gary Neville says we need to wrap our pm up in billionaire donated luxury gratuities "to keep him safe" as Lisa Nandy yearnfully gazes at him. Hard to believe that a multimillionaire landlord twat can't see how tawdry this has looked to *ordinary* folk. Keep doubling down on it lads, his approval rating will be minus 100 by Christmas.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 23 September 2024 18:54 (two months ago) link
Doesn't seem to be too many questions about what the payback for these "gifts" is, i.e. deregulation on demand and a key to the secret back door of No. 10, no questions asked!
― it's beginning-to-end stuff (Matt #2), Monday, 23 September 2024 18:57 (two months ago) link
lots of melts who were scathing about Tory corruption have become very Pollyannaish about a Labour party literally owned by billionaires, nothing to see here.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 23 September 2024 19:01 (two months ago) link
They are so fucking cheap.
Jonathan Reynolds and two senior staff went to Glastonbury as guests of YouTube. Until then, Labour was promising to increase the digital service tax from 2% to 10%. Literally the day after the festival, it emerged that Reynolds had ditched the policy. https://t.co/LaYgCyoYb5— Novara Media (@novaramedia) September 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 September 2024 20:29 (two months ago) link
I'd be expecting a free spot in the glamping field and a personal introduction to Ed Sheeran for that kind of deal
― it's beginning-to-end stuff (Matt #2), Monday, 23 September 2024 20:32 (two months ago) link
A century ago, as Ralph Miliband showed, this was done by taking the first Labour MPs around exclusive London clubs, introducing them to high society, and slowly squeezing them into a position where they saw things more from the perspective of the powerful than the powerless. For Britain’s modern hyper-rich oligarch class, it looks a little different. But the effect is the same: the point about all of the different gifts given to Labour politicians – notably tickets to exclusive events, and smart clothes – is that they’re things which make people feel special, part of a class apart. They’re meant, as the education secretary put it, to be “hard to turn down” not because of their cash value, but the emotions they imbue in the recipient
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 September 2024 20:56 (two months ago) link
Re Reynolds and digital service tax, what's fun to imagine is if policies like that are literally created with the aim in mind of getting a sweet bribe, like it's all pre-factored in, because they know so well how it all works now. Similar could be said about the Green new deal and the £4m Quadrature donation, though there the timing isn't so clear. But you'd think a donation of that size would gave been long in the discussion and back and forths about what needed to be dropped.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 23 September 2024 21:31 (two months ago) link
Isn’t it outrageous when climate change protestors hold up traffic? Like, what if I needed to get to the hospital? https://t.co/5Enk7tfxnH— David Veevers (@DavidVeevers1) September 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 08:59 (two months ago) link
Jail for woke floodwater
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 09:26 (two months ago) link
Re: corruption/accepting gifts. Amazing story
Britain has such strict anti-corruption rules that street cleaners are banned from accepting charitable donations, but politicians can accept hundreds of thousands of pounds in gig tickets, holidays, designer clothes, and lavish parties. What a country! https://t.co/3RtJhZBHWG— Karl Hansen (@karl_fh) September 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 10:02 (two months ago) link
bang otm― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 September 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Ok, maybe but I would still like a truck of money to be driven to...a bigger house!
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 10:04 (two months ago) link
Starmer demands the return of the sausages from Gaza pic.twitter.com/fRAFr8Pb4R— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) September 24, 2024
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 13:44 (two months ago) link
hahahahahahahaha oh noooo
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 13:53 (two months ago) link
this would be the same ceasefire he refused to back earlier, on account that it would embolden hamas and create more violence somehow
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 13:54 (two months ago) link
It's unsurprising when he's supporting a butcher!— Kieron 🇵🇸🏳️⚧️🔻🍉 (@CarriesDog) September 24, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 13:56 (two months ago) link
does this misspeak mean he is preparing to announce ... nationalised sausages
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 13:58 (two months ago) link
breakfast means breakfast
― nxd, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 14:02 (two months ago) link
kind of fucked up that Labour are banning ninja swords and calling it Ronin's Law
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 14:04 (two months ago) link
"Hostages"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5qLcjcJ3UQ
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 14:06 (two months ago) link
Captain Netanyahu foiled again!
https://www.collectorsprints.com/_images/cartoons/tintin-03/800/9160.jpg
― it's beginning-to-end stuff (Matt #2), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 14:06 (two months ago) link
(xp) ... I think Johnny Marr has found the perfect replacement for Morrissey.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 14:07 (two months ago) link
Keir Starmer’s speech, rather predictably, gets interrupted by heckler.PM: “Every child, every person, deserves to be respected for the contribution they make..”Heckler: “Does that include the children of Gaza?”PM: “This guy has obviously got a pass from the 2019…— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) September 24, 2024
Really is not sufficient to call Starmer scum. He's a sentient piece of toxic waste
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 14:13 (two months ago) link
Hahaha those losers back in 2019 cared about dead children. We do not, which proves we are very smart and very adult.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 15:17 (two months ago) link
Pulled a pre-written heckler put-down out of his pocket for that one haha well done sir, they’ll be chortling about that one in the lobby
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 15:20 (two months ago) link
A question I’ve been asked repeatedly since voting against the means-test for winter fuel payments is why I couldn’t wait longer before doing so.Read this desperate email received from a constituent and ask yourself could you accept pensioners struggling this winter? I can’t. pic.twitter.com/9RtdYqSM8q— Apsana Begum MP (@ApsanaBegumMP) September 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 15:21 (two months ago) link
that's his most quick-witted and funniest repartee, ho ho ho I purged thousands of decent people from the party membership - it was the gag of the season.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 15:23 (two months ago) link
Watch the video to see his happy little chuckle
Someone heckles Keir Starmer about the mass slaughter of children in Gaza.Starmer laughs and suggests he got his pass from the 2019 Labour conference. Genuinely vile behaviour. pic.twitter.com/3S5g92hvYX— Owen Jones (@owenjonesjourno) September 24, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 15:25 (two months ago) link
It’s really something how totally out of touch they are that at this moment they think this type of attitude plays
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 15:29 (two months ago) link
It does to the audience at a Labour Party conference in 2024.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 15:38 (two months ago) link
Yeah I guess you’re right
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 16:03 (two months ago) link
Errata: For "Sausages", read "Hostages" (1066 and all that)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 16:20 (two months ago) link
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 16:29 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
it's particularly aggravating they're still doing this now they're actually the government, it's one thing to go "power not protest" when you're the opposition and arguing you need to be elected to change anything, it's another when you are in power, refuse to change anything and are still telling detractors to shut up
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 16:50 (two months ago) link
It’s the complacent way he says “we’ve changed the party” like some kind of liturgical reflex that I think I actually find most enraging; this is the same motherfucker that pretended to respect Corbyn’s accomplishments when he ran for leader and made a raft of pledges to membership that he has now systematically - and unapologetically - broken. Yes you really have changed the party - and you lied and sold your soul to do it. And you’re bragging about this? What is power without principle? I guess he really was running to Britain’s Top Boy and now that he’s got there he’s going to make damned sure the head teacher won’t be disappointed in him
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 16:56 (two months ago) link
It's understandable but futile to think these people have any sense of ethics or any shame. They're immune to that. They're just right, and fuiud
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 17:02 (two months ago) link
These aren't the traits of decent human beings, never mind people who deserve to be voted for
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 17:03 (two months ago) link
By “head teacher” I don’t mean membership, obv, who really ought to be his boss, but who have deserted him in droves, I mean the imperatives of financiers and the donor class
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 17:17 (two months ago) link
Caring about dead children enough to attend an event run by people you loathe just in order to get a word in about them is the old politicsWe’ve changed the party
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 17:18 (two months ago) link
https://i.ibb.co/G9kGpLC/fsefre.jpg
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 17:58 (two months ago) link
The colour red should sue that prick for flagrant misuse
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 18:04 (two months ago) link
https://i.ibb.co/XbQkqt0/hkgiuykguy.jpg
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 18:56 (two months ago) link
Lol the guy who yelled at Starmer joined Lab in '22
Break: we caught up with the protestor from the PM's speech pic.twitter.com/wDRgw1G8Ll— Genevieve Holl-Allen (@genevieve_holl) September 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 19:51 (two months ago) link
despite what i said earlier, this week is illness-inducing, the manufacturing of consent, the triumphal nothingness, it is horrible full boot stamping on humanity stuff
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 21:44 (two months ago) link
🚨 NEW: Keir Starmer says he took £20,000 in donations for accommodation for his 16-year-old son to study "peacefully" for his GCSE exams [@BBCRadio4]— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) September 25, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 12:29 (two months ago) link
That's more than a lot of people earn in an entire year.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 12:36 (two months ago) link
'kin hell man, what a little spoilt twat, and his son is obviously appalling as well.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 12:48 (two months ago) link
take this motherfucker down
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 12:52 (two months ago) link
i’m daring myself to imagine he has to go, there’s a leadership election and we actually get somebody human
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 12:53 (two months ago) link
Streetingjumpscare.jpeg
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 13:23 (two months ago) link
Why did Starmer ditch a progressive agenda to try and please Murdoch? I get it with Streeting, a moral windsock who inflates wherever power farts, but how did Starmer come to think the right wing press might be on his side? https://t.co/9WvXn5zPAy— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) September 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 13:53 (two months ago) link
xp if Starmer goes you could be looking at Streeting.
But I don't feel Starmer is anywhere near under pressure.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 13:55 (two months ago) link
Luckily being 500 votes away from annihilation probably keeping Streeting in check, because he is g a w n next GE.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 13:57 (two months ago) link
He's got a majority of a gazillion.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 13:58 (two months ago) link
They will probably parachute Streeting to a safer seat.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 13:59 (two months ago) link
Probably more Labour MPs who feel their star is hitched to Kieth than Wes at the moment, I can't see serious internal pressure on him just yet
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 14:15 (two months ago) link
Ok...
Waheed Alli was my sister’s best friend for 25yrs. Tragically she was diagnosed with a Glioblastoma Brain Tumour in Nov 2021 & died on June 24th 2023. He took every step of her last terrible journey with her. Lending me money to buy a house with ground floor bed & bath room 1/2 https://t.co/MMsmavZ0D3— Siobhain McDonagh (@Siobhain_Mc) September 25, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 20:59 (two months ago) link
Truly fucked. Press outside? Here is a house. Want to die in comfort? Here is another one..
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 21:09 (two months ago) link
🚨SCOOP: The Labour peer at the centre of the donations row, Lord Alli, failed to declare interests in a tax haven firm. @openDemocracyhttps://t.co/RXFACovFpj— Martin Williams (@martinrw) September 25, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 21:14 (two months ago) link
Lol!
Google provided £10,000 of hospitality to senior Labour figures & the party ditched plans to raise the Digital Services Tax.Quadrature, a Cayman Islands hedge-fund which invests in fossil fuels, donated £4m & its climate advisory board co-chair is now Climate Envoy.It stinks.— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) September 25, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 21:24 (two months ago) link
it's the grift that keeps on grifting
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 21:26 (two months ago) link
All the initial responses are neolib bots defending this, but the thing is: many children live in cramped accommodation, and many areas where kids don't have a library to go to as so many have closed.
You can study peacefully in public libraries for free https://t.co/3NpWgS9nJ5— Heather Mendick (@helensclegel) September 25, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 September 2024 10:32 (two months ago) link
Starmer probably scarred by having to study while his dad made tools in the background.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 September 2024 10:47 (two months ago) link
Tf you're heading towards a disaster.
"We can make London the AI capital of the world. The opportunities to create wealth are endless," Sir Keir Starmer says in an exclusive feature #frontpageThe PM tells @nicholascecil about his AI vision for the capital: https://t.co/EeGGS1iWPx pic.twitter.com/XXn7ZgZGGP— The Standard (@EveningStandard) September 26, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 September 2024 12:14 (two months ago) link
how is he getting this *all* so wrong
― imago, Thursday, 26 September 2024 12:18 (two months ago) link
how long until starmer says something inane about taking policy advice from chatgpt
― ufo, Thursday, 26 September 2024 12:19 (two months ago) link
that AI created cover pic of Kieth may look a bit like the guy who wooed Lady Starmer, but he's got a lot bloody uglier since
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 26 September 2024 12:27 (two months ago) link
― imago, Thursday, 26 September 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Lol @ thinking he was going to get *any* of it right
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 September 2024 12:31 (two months ago) link
"image of keir starmer created by AI" plus AI superpower plus the actual image is real robot-stamping-on-a-human-face-forever vibes tbf
― mark s, Thursday, 26 September 2024 12:37 (two months ago) link
he really is just a spectacularly dim person
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 26 September 2024 13:20 (two months ago) link
The opportunities to create wealth are endless
imagine being an adult back in charge and saying this out loud
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 September 2024 16:15 (two months ago) link
tagline for the launch of kier cion
― conrad, Thursday, 26 September 2024 18:08 (two months ago) link
Streeting and Kendall quoted approvingly in this piece saying things.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/sep/27/britain-sick-answer-benefits-crackdown
"Britain has 2.8 million adults economically inactive because of long-term illness, up by a startling 900,000 since 2020. No, this isn’t some unavoidable global hangover from the pandemic – economic inactivity has fallen elsewhere in Europe – but it’s also extremely unlikely to be because a life on welfare is just too cushy here. The introduction of universal credit, if anything, left many disabled people worse off than before."
Anyway the stat is astonishing, if correct. Two million people have fallen off. Has anyone written anything as to why this has happened in such a short space of time? That piece is incredibly poor at addressing it.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 September 2024 12:45 (two months ago) link
I am thinking that post-covid the NHS and associated services aren't that accessible anymore for many people.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 September 2024 12:46 (two months ago) link
They really don't give a fuck do they?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/27/rachel-reeves-reconsiders-end-to-non-dom-tax-status-over-obr-forecast-fears
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Friday, 27 September 2024 12:47 (two months ago) link
Sorry this be clear: another million since 2020, why? Again, my feeling is of the NHS breaking down xp Lol absolutely not.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 September 2024 12:48 (two months ago) link
So much Long Covid! I know at least five people who had to stop work to deal with it.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 27 September 2024 12:58 (two months ago) link
But -- from that piece, which might be cobblers -- it doesn't sound like a lot of Europe has suffered from "economic inactivity"?
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 September 2024 13:12 (two months ago) link
"economically inactive" is a pure evil phrase
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 September 2024 14:35 (two months ago) link
still have to pay 20% tax on everything with the pittance you get for being long term sick, stick that in your "economically inactive"
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 27 September 2024 14:57 (two months ago) link
Yes, agree its a terrible and evil phrase. People here are ill and suffering. It struck me that we might be a lot worse than much of Europe.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 September 2024 15:02 (two months ago) link
Meanwhile..
🚨 BREAKING: 2 VAN GOGH PAINTINGS SOUPED HOURS AFTER PHOEBE AND ANNA SENTENCED🥫 3 Just Stop Oil supporters have thrown soup over 2 of Van Gogh paintings in the 'Poets and Lovers' exhibition at the National Gallery.➡️ Support people in resistance: https://t.co/Rh65arOwa1 pic.twitter.com/Tc3Bvd10OB— Just Stop Oil (@JustStop_Oil) September 27, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 September 2024 15:04 (two months ago) link
Soupflowers
― I am the agent of Judas Priest (Matt #2), Friday, 27 September 2024 15:23 (two months ago) link
just stop oil paintings
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 27 September 2024 16:31 (two months ago) link
don't know where to put this so i'll put it here because it's good
https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/been-working-class-middle-real-difference-3298188
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 September 2024 09:12 (two months ago) link
Thanks for that - it's good and also I'd been meaning to look into the "Kemi Badenoch at McDonalds" but I hadn't been relishing the prospect.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 28 September 2024 09:26 (two months ago) link
if you live from one pay cheque or benefit cheque, to the next, devoid of any certainty about the next week, let alone month, plagued by financial anxiety and unable to turn to anyone else in your life for support, you are working class, irrespective of whether you make your sandwiches with white sliced or sourdough..
this can't be be written enough for the benefit of various salt of the earth, "working class hero" Labour MPs who dismissed Corbyn supporters as some poncey, irrelevant, terminally m/c block of voters, who unlike them, were not for real and whose concerns were somehow not as legitimate as faux w/c, bigoted small business owners.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 28 September 2024 09:50 (two months ago) link
yeah i don't think the writer is saying anything spectacular and you can endlessly dig into the superstructure of class and class consciousness and how it performs itself in the UK but he's absolutely nailed a fundamental truth here
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 September 2024 10:02 (two months ago) link
and also yeah the damage to my blood pressure every time i see some middle class centrist cunt giving it the old "posh student trust fund leftists" spiel
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 September 2024 10:03 (two months ago) link
off-topic - but this guy's other writings give me a strong Tony Parsons in the 1990s vibe, and I can't stand his writing in general, for example:
Still, boot licking members of the aspirational classes still secretly believe that these double barrelled dopes must be smart because - well - they speak a bit of Latin and get their suits from Savile Row.Oh well, none of that matters too much now because the normal people are in charge again: politicians with the intelligence, the work ethic and the compassion that comes from growing up in small houses, living among unconventional families and learning in big, scruffy, brilliant schools.Like I say, it’s been a bit of a tough year. But just recently things have started to feel a whole lot better.Come on England!
Oh well, none of that matters too much now because the normal people are in charge again: politicians with the intelligence, the work ethic and the compassion that comes from growing up in small houses, living among unconventional families and learning in big, scruffy, brilliant schools.
Like I say, it’s been a bit of a tough year. But just recently things have started to feel a whole lot better.
Come on England!
― Bob Six, Saturday, 28 September 2024 10:27 (two months ago) link
He was writing in the Indie so yeah definitely cautious with my praise
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 September 2024 10:29 (two months ago) link
Oh sweet the phone post echo, haven't done one of those for a while
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 September 2024 10:30 (two months ago) link
Lab is full of grifters like this who will quit in a huff because grifting isn't public service
🔺EXCLUSIVE: Rosie Duffield (@RosieDuffield1) has resigned as a Labour MP, blaming Sir Keir Starmer’s “cruel and unnecessary” policies and the freebies row that is engulfing him and his party— The Times and The Sunday Times (@thetimes) September 28, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 28 September 2024 16:50 (two months ago) link
Any bets she's quitting because she was promised a cabinet role (as some kind of TERF czar probably) which never materialized?
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Saturday, 28 September 2024 17:00 (two months ago) link
100%
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 28 September 2024 17:12 (two months ago) link
She has probably been planning this for about four years.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 28 September 2024 17:17 (two months ago) link
Operation Flounce
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 28 September 2024 17:19 (two months ago) link
Lol I've just seen this, I'm sure she's taking a principled stand
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 September 2024 04:20 (two months ago) link
who will now represent the proud socialists of (checks notes) fucking Canterbury?
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 September 2024 09:10 (two months ago) link
tbf, Canterbury has a big student population and, with much of Kent with good transport links to London, a changing set of demographics. One of Duffield’s supporters’ arguments has always been that only she could hold such a traditionally Conservative seat so Labour should stick with her, but it’s not really true. The Tories have fewer seats than the Lib Dems on the council these days and both are behind Labour.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 29 September 2024 09:26 (two months ago) link
Yeah, to an extent that feels something of a rerun of you're not working class if you're preparing sandwiches of sourdough instead of white sliced from upthread
― anvil, Sunday, 29 September 2024 10:06 (two months ago) link
sure it was a lazy zing, i'm pretty comfortable identifying her supporters as transphobic pigs tho
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 September 2024 10:29 (two months ago) link
Canterbury has lots of DFLs now, including a transphobic former friend who has been radicalised by proximity to Duffield. These people are toxic and they’re in all parties and none.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Sunday, 29 September 2024 11:00 (two months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/29/kemi-badenoch-not-all-cultures-equally-valid-immigration
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 September 2024 11:16 (two months ago) link
Diversity win! The first openly fascist leader of a major UK political party could be a black woman!
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 29 September 2024 17:41 (two months ago) link
“I think that cultures where women are told that they should not work; I would knock on doors … and you would see somebody at the door who says: ‘I can’t speak to you, I will get my husband.’ I don’t think that is as equally valid as our culture.Those women just think you're an idiot Kemi (in a party with <25% women)
― nashwan, Sunday, 29 September 2024 18:05 (two months ago) link
I've read people on here saying she's not that bad really - wrong, she's a nutcase.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 September 2024 21:51 (two months ago) link
Related to the i article above, this is good https://bsky.app/profile/gralefrit.bsky.social/post/3l2m4sa7ed72x
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 29 September 2024 23:15 (two months ago) link
yes, good thread, though annoying that he chose fleabag (a good show about openly upper-middle people) as an example when there are countless worse offenders out there.
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 30 September 2024 05:33 (two months ago) link
good to see Badenoch taking aim against that most hated and unjust intervention by the state... maternity benefit???
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 30 September 2024 08:25 (two months ago) link
heartbreaking, the worst person you know just made a great point
🚨 NEW: Kemi Badenoch has declared that ‘there are too many podcasts’“I don’t like to listen to the ones that go on for three hours with people droning on and on” [@hoffman_noa]— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) September 30, 2024
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Tuesday, 1 October 2024 08:59 (two months ago) link
Kemi go on Backlisted
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 October 2024 09:08 (two months ago) link
it's a joke account
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 1 October 2024 09:09 (two months ago) link
kemi is right and she should say it
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Tuesday, 1 October 2024 09:17 (two months ago) link
Noa Hoffman from The Sun is also a joke account.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 1 October 2024 09:19 (two months ago) link
what’s the actual point of these useless xuntshttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/01/treasury-asking-ministers-to-draw-up-billions-of-pounds-of-infrastructure-cuts
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Tuesday, 1 October 2024 18:22 (two months ago) link
merge all the various podcasts into a single universal podcast: easier to administrate, saves the Treasury millions.
― fetter, Tuesday, 1 October 2024 18:38 (two months ago) link
Not enough flags
🚨 NEW: Keir Starmer pictured on the phone with Israeli PM Netanyahu just as Iran began its attack on Israel📸 Simon Dawson / No 10 pic.twitter.com/olwDihn0HW— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) October 1, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 October 2024 22:00 (two months ago) link
are we gonna keep posting from that account like it's real
― imago, Tuesday, 1 October 2024 22:03 (two months ago) link
Yes, its funny.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 October 2024 22:10 (two months ago) link
am i missing a joke here?
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 06:56 (two months ago) link
Critical support for bad enoch on the podcast issue
― SPENGE (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 07:23 (two months ago) link
A wetter more depressing place.
Another scale busting map!September rainfall for the UK.Huge variation but parts of southern England seeing over three & a half times their average rainfall.Incredibly Bedfordshire & Oxfordshire saw their wettest month (of any month) in at least 188 years. pic.twitter.com/fDgbVaeJCz— Dave Throup (@DaveThroup) October 1, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 October 2024 10:19 (two months ago) link
during a very unusually dry month in Scotland, the Shetland Isles had a higher than average amount of sunlight hours than most of England, according to MET office.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 10:37 (two months ago) link
oh I was posting on my phone, didn't notice the tweet included a rainfall map illustrating everything I just posted!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 10:47 (two months ago) link
"Kier Starmer pays back £6,000 worth of gifts and hospitality" - this feels like he's hit the bullseye of "big enough to annoy people who've been turning up in front of cameras for weeks claiming there's nothing wrong, small enough to still annoy everyone who thinks he's crooked"
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 2 October 2024 15:49 (two months ago) link
Yeah the most dithering loser move possible, man excels himself again
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 16:04 (two months ago) link
Also please stop gendering Israel, Keir - it’s creeeeepy.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 16:24 (two months ago) link
Sir Keir Starmer on the phone with Benjamin Netanyahu. Pic: Number 10
they need to stop doing this gruesome West Wing fanfic as well, especially with such an unserious dipstick as Kieth. Most of the world thought Macron looked like an even bigger cunt than usual when his office put out the "on the phone with Putin pic" as well.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 17:17 (two months ago) link
"The money was just resting in my account"
This is a minor technical breach related to registration as a charitable trustee. https://t.co/JaAtOLmjpf— Siobhain McDonagh (@Siobhain_Mc) October 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 October 2024 20:21 (two months ago) link
"minor technical breach related to registration as a charitable trustee"
let's see if this shit works for the P Diddy defense!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 20:24 (two months ago) link
Just resurfacing a piece I did on the displaced Chagos Islanders living in the UK and the terrible housing conditions they face in the private rented sector. Hope today's news marks a step towards some kind of justice for them https://t.co/3p85ikVc2l— Peter Apps (@PeteApps) October 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 October 2024 16:51 (two months ago) link
A violin so small it has ceased to exist.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2024/oct/04/west-ham-owner-wealthy-leaving-uk-non-dom-crackdown
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Friday, 4 October 2024 05:57 (two months ago) link
The idea that anyone has the wherewithal to own a 65 million pound townhouse in central London makes my blood boil. Then again, why tax the rich when you can kick the pensioners.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 4 October 2024 06:32 (two months ago) link
Tiny violin also pressed into service for this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9580dx1y2o
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 4 October 2024 08:32 (two months ago) link
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/645/713/888.jpg
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 4 October 2024 08:37 (two months ago) link
Not just any Tory but an especially repellent and publicity hungry one as his Wiki page amply demonstrates.
In October 2020, after voting against a Labour Party Opposition Day Motion to extend free school meals until Easter 2021,
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Friday, 4 October 2024 08:39 (two months ago) link
Gullis said that he would not address a "baying mob" in response to an alleged planned protest during his visit to a church foodbank
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Friday, 4 October 2024 08:41 (two months ago) link
After a few days of some flooding, and much flooding in the US.
Committing £22 billion to an unproven technology championed by THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY THAT GOT US INTO THIS CRISIS whilst scrapping £28 billion investment in climate solutions which...actually work?Make it make sense 😫https://t.co/FaLJr7qky7— Green New Deal Rising (@GNDRising) October 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 October 2024 09:27 (two months ago) link
Forensic:
It absolutely is the right investment. It’s very important in relation to our climate obligations, and that’s why those leading the discussions in climate say this is the right thing to do.It is a recognition that when it comes to cement, to glass, to other vital industries, there’s an element of carbon, that if we’re to support those industries going forward we need to find a way of capturing that and ensuring that through initiatives like this, we can continue with glass production, we can continue with cement production.And therefore this has sort of got a double benefit, if you like. We’ve got the skills and the jobs and the potential to get ahead on carbon capture. That is a good thing in its own right. But secondly, it supports glass, it supports cement, it supports those industries where there’s always going to be an element of carbon.
It is a recognition that when it comes to cement, to glass, to other vital industries, there’s an element of carbon, that if we’re to support those industries going forward we need to find a way of capturing that and ensuring that through initiatives like this, we can continue with glass production, we can continue with cement production.
And therefore this has sort of got a double benefit, if you like. We’ve got the skills and the jobs and the potential to get ahead on carbon capture. That is a good thing in its own right. But secondly, it supports glass, it supports cement, it supports those industries where there’s always going to be an element of carbon.
― RIO Speedwagon (Matt #2), Friday, 4 October 2024 11:01 (two months ago) link
Corporate carbon capture
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 4 October 2024 11:11 (two months ago) link
> We’ve got the skills and the jobs and the potential to get ahead on carbon capture.
We’ve got the skills and the jobs and the potential to get ahead on real green technology.
(also, why not both?)
― koogs, Friday, 4 October 2024 11:34 (two months ago) link
If I was repeatedly telling the nation that the government has no money I would make a point of making sure my big investments went to projects that were demonstrably not a load of greenwashing shite
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2024 11:39 (two months ago) link
Net zero was always a load of bollocks, but this is insane. Building infrastructure to modify the outcomes of climate change would actually be a source of growth (look at China's investment).
As it is many places are on track to be flooded, many will be killed and the insurance industry will suffer. All for dumb culture war crap.
Aside from everything else going on here, the fact things have moved so quickly from ‘net zero’ as a fudge where we pretend we’ve cut emissions through offsetting to talking about ‘net zero’ as an ‘finger-wagging extremist’ position is bleak. pic.twitter.com/RT71725wKD— Nick Bernards (@BernardsNick) October 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 October 2024 11:13 (two months ago) link
You must have a pass to the 2019 conference! We've changed the party!
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 5 October 2024 11:34 (two months ago) link
https://i.ibb.co/THt50Jy/GZG6-OWWWYAAXIAT.jpg
You must be thinking of the 2019 Keir Starmer! The one who promised climate justice! But I was lying like fuck to you and to everyone! You must be thinking of him! Fuck you and everyone who voted for me!
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 5 October 2024 11:53 (two months ago) link
Sorry, kind of upset this morning
He's always putting things at the heart what they do and then forgetting he put them there.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 October 2024 12:11 (two months ago) link
just talked to a councillor today who went to conference, he says he left after 1 day because it was so depressing
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 5 October 2024 15:39 (two months ago) link
if the Tories had somehow won the election they'd be too busy knifing each other to achieve this level of active malevolence
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 October 2024 16:15 (two months ago) link
the tories could still be in power - the deadline for the election hasn't passed yet
― koogs, Saturday, 5 October 2024 16:22 (two months ago) link
Sue Gray quits her role as Chief of Staff.......I doubted she was the right person for this role - her Civil Service background is Propriety and Ethics, not the wheeling and dealing you need for a CoS role.
― Bob Six, Sunday, 6 October 2024 12:07 (two months ago) link
She did a grand job on the old propriety and ethics, to be fair
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 6 October 2024 12:12 (two months ago) link
McSweeney takes over as CoS, strap yourselves in
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 October 2024 12:16 (two months ago) link
JFC, cue a zillion articles about MMcS being Our Bastard.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Sunday, 6 October 2024 12:18 (two months ago) link
great, now the repellent creep, Morgan McSweeney is even more powerful.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 6 October 2024 12:19 (two months ago) link
So...who is going to go after McSweeney, because factions fighting while doing nothing to keep the country from burning is what Lab is all about.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 October 2024 12:20 (two months ago) link
Possibly naive question but what does Sue Gray going mean in the scheme of things?
― djh, Sunday, 6 October 2024 14:19 (two months ago) link
she was a Starmer appointee, one of his top priority transfer signings, and now has become the scapegoat for how unpopular he is and how bad no 10 comms have been. Although I don't really believe any kind of spin meister could have made this shitshow any more palatable to the public. It seems amusing that there are factions amongst the right of the party amongst people who are basically the fucking same.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 6 October 2024 14:40 (two months ago) link
Well one important thing she could have advised Starmer and the Cabinet, especially given her background in propriety and ethics, was:
"Don't take freebies, especially not all from the same labour peer, and consider how bad doing so might look if you've just campaigned on ticket of decency, honesty and the need for a fresh approach to politics."
She didn't even manage to do that!
― Bob Six, Sunday, 6 October 2024 14:56 (two months ago) link
And her own son accepted a £10000 donation from Lord Alli. imho she's worse than useless.
― Bob Six, Sunday, 6 October 2024 14:59 (two months ago) link
decency and honesty is what you have to campaign on when you're ideologically the same as the existing government tbf
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 October 2024 15:02 (two months ago) link
Remember all the fuss from the Tories about how she'd stitched up Johnson over No.10 parties (not using the -gate word, nor the B word)? All ultimately futile, as it turns out she was just warming the seat until that McSweeney psycho could measure up the best backstabbing angle.
― RIO Speedwagon (Matt #2), Sunday, 6 October 2024 15:13 (two months ago) link
Jonathan Freedland, Hadley Freeman, David Aaronovitch and David Baddiel quit the Jewish Chronicle because it is now a fascist gutter with no editorial standards and an anonymous ownership.Didn't stop someone... pic.twitter.com/NoTGZ468sd— jewdⒶs // ייִדהודה (@jewdas) October 6, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 7 October 2024 13:29 (two months ago) link
Lol, that's just so insane he would publish there.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 12:24 (two months ago) link
Anyway...
when it's definitely going well pic.twitter.com/m2hU69jS7z— Crowsa Luxemburg (@quendergeer) October 8, 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4GdWK_WoNs
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 8 October 2024 12:47 (two months ago) link
Well well.
A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome at the weekend implies that, if Cleverly and Badenoch are on the final ballot, Badenoch will win narrowly. Here are the figures, which suggest she is ahead of him by 48% to 42%, with don’t knows at 9%. If Badenoch can make the final ballot tomorrow, by overtaking Jenrick, and if she can hold this lead with members, she can win
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 15:55 (two months ago) link
if she wins then it's a pact with Reform if not a merger, if a wet wins then there will be loads of defections to the same, either way we're currently on track for a far right party in power by 2029.
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 8 October 2024 16:14 (two months ago) link
NHS hospitals are now charging patients £2/hr just to sit in a wheelchair in A+E. These are some of the sickest patients, who often have to wait hours to be seen.The NHS is crumbling, and is being eaten away by constant privatisation. When will @wesstreeting act? pic.twitter.com/Ee90DwZ5YO— Haseena (@HWazir6) October 8, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 October 2024 07:47 (two months ago) link
if a wheelchair is parked up in a waiting room and effectively just being used as a seat, then the people who are profiting from this deserve to be executed and then charged postmortem for the space their corpse is taking up.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 08:06 (two months ago) link
one thing that relentlessly depresses me is when people draw attention to politicians successes as though they were politicians failures in a way that far too generously misrecognises the intentions of politicians. at this point it applies to almost everything happening in politics and policy.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 08:09 (two months ago) link
otm
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 08:24 (two months ago) link
Extremely otm and it drives me crazy too
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 09:44 (two months ago) link
Ok so...a black woman is close to becoming Tory leader...
NEW: CLEVERLY ELIMINATED FROM TORY LEADERSHIP CONTEST.BADENOCH: 42JENRICK: 41CLEVERLY: 37Extraordinary. One vote between Badenoch and Jenrick. And Badenoch again is the front runner.— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) October 9, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 October 2024 14:42 (two months ago) link
i'd imagine the membership will be outraged that they've been denied the chance to vote for a "moderate" by their extremist MPs
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 16:04 (two months ago) link
They're still annoyed they can't vote for Boris. Or Farage.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 16:17 (two months ago) link
I imagine Jenrick is going to win this now because the party members have shown time and time again that they are willing to put their differences aside to settle on the white candidate.(I was subjected to a torrent of fury by Stephen Bush on BlueSky when I last said this)
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 16:42 (two months ago) link
might be time to start thinking about how i could flee the country
this result is almost as if the extra-fash Tory MPs colluded to ensure it was both of their candidates on the final ballot
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 16:56 (two months ago) link
Even with the pitiful shower of the current govt I can't see the Tories getting back in OR having any meaningful voice for a while yet. Kind of a placeholder role for now. A screensaver party leader.
― one by one the wombles are dying (Matt #2), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 17:01 (two months ago) link
your regular ongoing reminder that Tories + Remain polled higher than Labour at the last election
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 17:06 (two months ago) link
Labour won one election too early to be thinking about multiple victories. I think they can safely carry the can while Reform give the Conservatives a shot term substitution, would think they'd be comfortable odds on for a 2028 win
As to whether there is any meaningful distinction between the candidates, or the parties themselves, this seems to be something of a matter of opinion
― anvil, Wednesday, 9 October 2024 17:29 (two months ago) link
if tories and reform had a pact as they did in 2019, they would have won, but farage decided it was too early and sunak was too unpopular.
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 17:46 (two months ago) link
There was a lot of tactical voting going on as people realised the Tories were sunk though, possibly if there'd been a Tory/Reform alliance some of the electorate might have voted differently. We'll never know! Or we may find out at the next election in 2028 2027 2026 etc
― one by one the wombles are dying (Matt #2), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 18:03 (two months ago) link
Yeah there's still enough bad blood that it's far from certain that all the Reform voters would vote Tory or vice versa.
There's probably some vote lending to blame for today's result, where Cleverly was ahead by 8 or 9 votes of the other two yesterday - tactical lending to him then, or from him now, or both.
I'm pretty certain they hate each other far more than they hate Cleverly
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 9 October 2024 20:17 (two months ago) link
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Worry not. Lib Dems will rescue this Lab party.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 October 2024 20:55 (two months ago) link
Conservatives elect their new very right-wing leader ⇒ Labour go "ha ha ha" & move onto Moderate-Tory-James-Cleverly territory ⇒ everything continues to get worse ⇒ Tories lead in the opinion polls ⇒ Labour shift even further right ⇒ everything still gets worse ⇒ GE 2029— Edmund Griffiths (@EdmundGriffiths) October 9, 2024
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 21:45 (two months ago) link
https://news.sky.com/story/labours-employment-reforms-wont-become-law-for-two-years-as-government-seeks-to-reassure-business-13231031
Major employment reforms promised by Labour will not become law for at least two years, as the government seeks compromise between unions and businesses on measures intended to strengthen workers rights without hindering economic growth.
The Employment Rights Bill, introduced into parliament on Thursday, includes 28 measures, many of which will be subject to extended consultation, while more than 30 other pledges have no clear timetable for delivery.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 10 October 2024 11:15 (two months ago) link
https://i.ibb.co/HVWYYDX/micah-and-izzy-v0-lrve8yt8r7oc1.webp
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 10 October 2024 11:17 (two months ago) link
Weird compromise seems to be all one way
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 October 2024 11:38 (two months ago) link
it's great how that whole class of parasites have successfully spun anything that even marginally impinges on their already grossly wealthy and overprivileged lifestyles as "hindering economic growth".
― a mysterious, repulsive form of energy that permeates the universe (ledge), Thursday, 10 October 2024 11:45 (two months ago) link
yes but enough about the Labour right
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 10 October 2024 11:57 (two months ago) link
it’s the bare minimum but at least this is happeninghttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2nz4zlgr4o
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 October 2024 19:09 (two months ago) link
Rachel Reeves is completely obsessed with getting people off benefits by forcing them into work, but still wants it to be easy to take away people’s livelihoods, which will likely force them to rely on benefits. This is nonsensical. https://t.co/86DF1zlnVt pic.twitter.com/l2T0wcHOyD— Large Father (@shirleymush) October 10, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 11 October 2024 06:06 (two months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/11/labour-carbon-capture-climate-breakdown
in a catalogue of evil i think the carbon capture scheme might be the most harmful thing they've committed to so far
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 October 2024 07:32 (two months ago) link
It’s monumentally stupid. Just wait because the only wait to make it remotely viable is to use the CO2 to force out more oil and gas, whilst conveniently ignoring fugitive emissions.
This like nuclear and hydrogen powered cars is a technology that doesn’t work has never worked and is unlikely ever to work;, doesn’t work economically and we have to waste so much intellectual capital on not doing it, which feels even more of a waste than the financial waste.
― Ed, Friday, 11 October 2024 07:42 (two months ago) link
yeah you have to assume the diversionary nature of it is the point, which is why fossil fuel companies are bribing them to do it
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 October 2024 07:47 (two months ago) link
it's not even cheap - it's a very expensive folly that will only seem worse after more local authority budget cuts kick in. These people are braindead.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 11 October 2024 07:50 (two months ago) link
I accept that these morons haven't got any green policies worth shit. But that level of a splurge on carbon capture bullshit, it's money that could be used to fix the NHS/fix social care. Something that will actually make a difference.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 11 October 2024 07:58 (two months ago) link
Fun to read pages and pages of glowing panegyric about the Morganiser’s giant political brain and instinctive connection to the public and the working class, and then refer to this table https://t.co/Yi9hdr05JF— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) October 9, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 11 October 2024 09:14 (two months ago) link
Insane to do fuck all about climate change. But maybe its too big a challenge for a country that has done v well out of capitalism.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 October 2024 09:47 (two months ago) link
To the managerial class 'net zero' is not much more than a point on a graph. If they can fiddle some figures and employ a few workarounds to 'achieve' it then it's tick the box, job done. They genuinely think economics is the hardest of hard sciences.
― one by one the wombles are dying (Matt #2), Friday, 11 October 2024 10:31 (two months ago) link
Last week the UK grid moved completely off coal forever and there are some encouraging developments from tidal-based electricity out there. As far as reducing consumption well...lowering birthrate in rich countries?..ok nm.
― nashwan, Friday, 11 October 2024 10:36 (two months ago) link
There was an article in the FT, I think? last week, saying that the most important thing was financial returns for companies based on current economic consensus, and that climate goals and public acceptance of what should be done for climate had to be based on that, rather than the other way round. It was nothing less than a psychotic manifesto for the end of all life on Earth, but it is how our current government thinks whether it says so or not. And until climate breakdown produces a social revolution it's going to be prevailing direction for all Western governments.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 11 October 2024 11:41 (two months ago) link
And until climate breakdown produces a social revolution
by which point it will be too late
― a mysterious, repulsive form of energy that permeates the universe (ledge), Friday, 11 October 2024 11:51 (two months ago) link
Its not altogether clear that that social revolution will be a positive one (though it might be), even if it does arrive on time
― anvil, Friday, 11 October 2024 11:56 (two months ago) link
Oh absolutely. It will just as likely be climate fascism. But because the floods will be at Westerner's doors they will demand a change from business as usual.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 11 October 2024 12:03 (two months ago) link
You would think so, but Floridians don't seem to be anywhere close to making such demands (at least not yet)
― anvil, Friday, 11 October 2024 12:05 (two months ago) link
We are jumping several steps ahead. See some intensification of what we are seeing: some items disappear from the shops permanently. A lot more migrants attempting to get to Europe (some from other parts of Europe). More deaths of European holidaymakers from heat, as well as here, as poor housing stock is exposed. Flooding will cause tens of billions worth of damage and will lead to stress in the financial system as insurance struggles to cope.
Whether this leads to socialism or fascism might depend on which actors are present to take advantage. I feel there is room for more Corbyn and Farage types to occupy that space.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 October 2024 12:19 (two months ago) link
Anyway as I was saying on the Trump thread, it will be bleak. My parents knew a mostly quiet life of work, raising children, a comfortable existence...don't know if that's gonna be possible for many.
Which is sad.
Think of the good novels that will be written tho'.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 October 2024 12:24 (two months ago) link
This came on randomly a few days ago, some guy interviewing people in Dover. The first half is various different people from the town, but the more interesting second half of it is all with one guy, a migrant from South Sudan, who came across both the Mediterranean and the Channel in a dinghy, and now lives in Dover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBrrCaIQjuo
― anvil, Friday, 11 October 2024 12:37 (two months ago) link
Fun day at work observing the varied ways passengers have decided to fuck up our displays of boris johnsons new book. From turning them upside down, back to front, replacing half the display with the book 'surrounded by liars' taking the harvard business book ' who would be led by you' and putting it in the middle of the boris table. One old guy was reduced to swearing at the display and tearing the pages out of one copy. Haven't had a reaction like this in the shop since Blair's book came out and people were forever relocating it to the true crime section.
― oscar bravo, Friday, 11 October 2024 20:09 (two months ago) link
ppl mad this guy finally gets to say what he wants
― nashwan, Friday, 11 October 2024 20:10 (two months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/oct/11/p0-ferries-owner-pulls-news-of-1bn-port-investment-after-ministers-criticise-firm
Thought Kieth could chair a meeting?
"One finance industry executive compared the organisation of the upcoming investment summit unfavourably with similar events held by President Macron in France. They said: “Getting information and the usual things you need to brief your CEO has been difficult. The timings are late, details of the venue late, and also the opportunities for things like meetings on sidelines and knowing who else is going.”"
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 October 2024 20:41 (two months ago) link
Louise High, working class lege
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 October 2024 11:34 (two months ago) link
Haigh, but she might be high too, what with insulting wealth creators..
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 October 2024 11:35 (two months ago) link
Apparently Rayner is in trouble too for calling P&O's conduct "outrageous". That's not the word I would have used though.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Saturday, 12 October 2024 11:43 (two months ago) link
you can't have Labour MPs saying mean things about business
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 October 2024 12:04 (two months ago) link
all options, apart from sucking up to big business and literally giving them a blowjob is "anti-growth". This is a party political broadcast from the UK Labour Party.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 12 October 2024 12:37 (two months ago) link
Starmer has done so badly that Labour has already been caught in the polls by the Tories, a party that everyone hates and that hasn’t even got a leader. https://t.co/8ByzAc0mf6— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) October 13, 2024
don't disagree that Starmer is doing a bad job, but not having a leader is probably helping the tories at the moment polling-wise, right? Particularly given that when they do get a leader it's going to be Kemi Badenoch or Robert Jenrick. Like when they do those opinion polls where "someone else" reliably outpolls all the actual politicians
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 14 October 2024 11:21 (two months ago) link
Could go either way, I suspect whoever gets the Tory leadership will probably get at least a few weeks of poll rise tho, it's pretty much a free hit at the moment
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 October 2024 12:01 (two months ago) link
Was there always this endless obsession with polls several years out from any potential election? It's like a constant league table, seems largely irrelevant at this point in time.
― the nervous laughter of fools (Matt #2), Monday, 14 October 2024 12:18 (two months ago) link
It's completely irrelevant, Starmer's government are in power for as long as they want to be in power and there's nothing anyone else can do about it.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Monday, 14 October 2024 13:07 (two months ago) link
I do worry about how Starmer would fare against Badenoch if she becomes leader, feel like Starmer's thing of being too boring to like but also too boring to hate that he kind of made work for him in opposition doesn't work now he's in government and has actual responsibilities and people have to see and hear him everyday, under those circumstances his dreariness curdles into something that inspires contempt rather than indifference, like an ineffectual line manager who wouldn't make any impression on you at all if you met them in other circumstances but is insufferable when you have to deal with them every day at work. Whatever else you can say about her Badenoch seems good at channelling anger and resentment, and at sounding like she's speaking her mind rather than triangulating, think Starmer might struggle against that.
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 14 October 2024 13:18 (two months ago) link
starmer is going to fare poorly against pretty much anyone in general now that he's pm and people expect him to actually do things that aren't terrible despite all his instincts to the contrary
the polls are mostly notable right now for how just quickly any hint of labour having any popularity has vanished. if things continue like this for another year or two then i'm sure streeting or someone will be ready with the knives
― ufo, Monday, 14 October 2024 14:04 (two months ago) link
"Starmer's thing of being too boring to like but also too boring to hate"
you must be joking, I follow ppl on twitter whose burning hatred of him has not dimmed in the slightest since 2020 and are still hate-posting about him on the daily. He's a very hateworthy character on many different levels. I'd still push him in front of a speeding bus, just to watch the cunt die, and not feel one iota of guilt about it. It looks like the british public that all voted for this vile piece of slime also want him to die now!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 14 October 2024 14:35 (two months ago) link
he's a deceitful, bigoted, insincere, weak-kneed piece of slime, and resembles nothing like a human being to me. I'd never hate anybody for just simply being boring.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 14 October 2024 14:47 (two months ago) link
I think 'too boring to like but also too boring to hate' is how most of the public thought of him prior to him becoming PM, but is not sustainable when people actually have to see and hear him regularly, the haters on twitter were engaged enough to already be seeing and hearing a lot of him so they started hating him before everyone else
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 14 October 2024 14:49 (two months ago) link
.. or consider Kieth's crimes against the Labour membership not to be taken into account, just because he's a very dull character
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 14 October 2024 14:50 (two months ago) link
The fun thing is he doesn't have a core constituency now - the left and right hate him, for different reasons, but centrists are coming round to despising him because he's showing them up for idiots. All he has is aggro briefcase wankers, and they are mostly concentrated in parliament and councils.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 14 October 2024 14:52 (two months ago) link
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Monday, 14 October 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Exactly this in normal times. And yet our times are far from what I have seen.
Its pretty clear Starmer will be a one term PM. Remarkable, given this much of a majority.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 October 2024 17:26 (two months ago) link
He might not even last the one term. Thing is where does the challenge come from? Is there anybody in the PLP who hasn't got a deficit obsessed austerity mindset and thinks the only way to improve Healthcare and Infrastructure is through more fucking PFI shit. Is there anyone there who could do the same terrible regressive policies without being hated? I doubt it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 14 October 2024 17:41 (two months ago) link
there'll be all sorts of vested interests propping this cunt up for a long time to come imo. perfect compliant stooge leading a party of conniving bootlickers who'd sell their own mothers for a little bump of power
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 14 October 2024 17:43 (two months ago) link
Basically at the mid point to both of your posts in that he lasts for the next 3.5 years or so.
The pressure will only come along when they lose badly at the next set of council elections, the polls keep tanking, even if the Tories aren't polling great Reform and Greens will.
Then there will be a lot of pressure from intensifying climate events, that could actually lead to major upheaval that Starmer (bcz he isn't v good as a politician) just gives up on (think Cameron calling the Brexit vote and resigning).
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 October 2024 17:57 (two months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/14/keir-starmer-promise-slash-red-tape-investment-summit
Starmer will say in his keynote speech on Monday: “We’ve got to look at regulation where it is needlessly holding back the investment, to take our country forward.
“Where it is stopping us building the homes, the datacentres, warehouses, grid connectors, roads, train lines, you name it then mark my words – we will get rid of it. We will rip out the bureaucracy that blocks investment and we will make sure that every regulator in this country take growth as seriously as this room does.”
Some in the union movement expressed concern at the prospect of another deregulatory push, with one likening Starmer’s tone to that of his predecessor David Cameron, who swept away building safety regulations as part of a “bonfire of red tape”.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 14 October 2024 21:24 (two months ago) link
Yup. This government is basically a return of Cameron-like politics, except giving a few crumbs for the left.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 October 2024 21:37 (two months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/oct/14/unemployed-could-be-given-weight-loss-jabs-to-get-back-to-work-says-wes-streeting
Not that this will happen as it's only Streeting bigging up 'wonder' drugs pushed by his PFI chums, but "take these potentially lethal obesity pills or we cut your benefits off" truly sounds like a Black Mirror premise rejected for not actually being funny.
― the nervous laughter of fools (Matt #2), Monday, 14 October 2024 23:50 (two months ago) link
I don't think he'll last a term. It's not just that his politics are awful, he just doesn't have any political savvy either, as his dreadful first 100 days have demonstrated. Something will terminally trip him up eventually.
― Zelda Zonk, Monday, 14 October 2024 23:59 (two months ago) link
Thing is where does the challenge come from?
it probably comes from someone even worse who will manage to be hated even more
― ufo, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 01:30 (two months ago) link
i guess i can see a case where someone from the soft left ends up leader after starmer is forced out because streeting etc. fail to win over the labour membership for good reason, but then the right probably go back into full-on wrecking mode and things get stupider in a different way
― ufo, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 01:35 (two months ago) link
Make your mind up, Wes.
https://news.sky.com/story/dont-use-ozempic-or-wegovy-for-instagram-perfect-body-says-health-secretary-13233612
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 08:41 (two months ago) link
genuine q, what is the "soft left"?
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 09:05 (two months ago) link
Liberals who can be bullied by the right of the Lab party.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 09:19 (two months ago) link
here they are!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZ7I65vXIAAyWpc?format=jpg
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 10:22 (two months ago) link
https://i.redd.it/2lpnk55gjm791.png
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 10:29 (two months ago) link
a concept of a plan
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 10:30 (two months ago) link
ooo remembers fontana real binmen series
https://www.worldofbooks.com/cdn/shop/files/1659357868BPG_1.jpg
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 10:48 (two months ago) link
here they are! 🖼
― gyac, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 10:51 (two months ago) link
Sincerely hope you guys aren't sexually harassing Dunt and Lynskey
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/bald-hair-men-man-ruling-high-court-latest-tony-finn/
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 11:16 (two months ago) link
"finn vs the british bung company" sounds like the worst film theyll show all christmas
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 11:24 (two months ago) link
including being called a "stupid bald c***"
now that's exactly what they should have called their podcast!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 11:49 (two months ago) link
I have a batch of personalised gift shampoo sets for D+L, I'll send them some at Christmas. On the label it reads "For All Hair Types (apart from stupid bald cunts)"
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 12:04 (two months ago) link
Alex Salmond ‘died while opening bottle of ketchup’
man got ketched!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 15:21 (two months ago) link
Noviketchok strikes again
― the nervous laughter of fools (Matt #2), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 15:43 (two months ago) link
Must’ve been a bottle of HP.
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 16:45 (two months ago) link
Another day, another sticky plaster scheme.
this is potentially a good idea but going from experiment to large scale provision is always tricky and I bet someone suggests that a cheap way to do it would be via a large contract to a private equity owned provider.https://t.co/74HiWMR1I9— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) October 16, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 October 2024 07:19 (two months ago) link
This is harassment of people who are, at the very least, stressed and on medication, or worse?
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 October 2024 07:38 (two months ago) link
Home visits team has a backlog that can be measured in months at the moment btw
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 09:29 (two months ago) link
I ended up missing a UC standard identity interview because it literally read that they would "call me" when they had an interview slot for me. They didn't call me at all, and just notified me by my account so I missed it. If I'm informed someone is going to call me - I will wait for a phone call, call me old fashioned - but an email/account update IS NOT A FUCKING CALL!!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 10:45 (two months ago) link
Great points here.
Working longer and irregular hours can contribute to obesity; shift and irregular work impacts sleep patterns and metabolism (& contributes to cancer); low wages and worsening working conditions negatively impact diet, activity, stress levels which in turn contributes to obesity https://t.co/xWKnalKKcF— kate flood 🇵🇸 (@KateFlood) October 16, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 October 2024 13:16 (two months ago) link
'will be given' eh?
― nashwan, Wednesday, 16 October 2024 13:23 (two months ago) link
is this the same medication that boris was shilling recently?
― koogs, Wednesday, 16 October 2024 13:39 (two months ago) link
we've got the stingiest, most punitive welfare system of any wealthy Euro shithole. There aren't enough savings to make from welfare cuts from an already cut to shreds welfare system that will change the game, as Osborne learned. These people are not just sinister, corrupt and evil. They are also some of the dumbest motherfuckers ever seen in UK political history.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 13:49 (two months ago) link
The op ed is paywalled and the BBC coverage is inconclusive - is the proposal actually to make these injections mandatory in order to access benefits??
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 16 October 2024 14:04 (two months ago) link
Surely unemployment isn’t so low that they need to harass the severely mentally ill into work?
― gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2024 14:18 (two months ago) link
The visibility of the cruelty is the entire point
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 14:56 (two months ago) link
I can’t see a ward manager admitting one of these vultures to a unit.
The problem with mental illness and employment is that we see stories in the papers about incredibly privileged people with mental health issues succeeding because they have every possible adjustment at work, which is another facet of aspirationalism everyone else affected struggles to attain (along with secure employment).
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 15:18 (two months ago) link
Just trying to survive on less than enough money to pay your bills is so tiring and mentally damaging that the benefits system is effectively deskilling people and making them less employable. Which, again, is part of the point
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 15:49 (two months ago) link
I have worked with obese people who were much more productive workers than the gymnasium poseur lads if the motivation was there. This was working in the electrical installation game and sometimes there were opportunities to make some decent money, albeit for some very hard work. But dogging hard for poverty wages is beyond difficult, no matter your BMI/fitness levels. It's like spiritually dying every day and then dying some more and then taking a shower under a stream of shit!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 17:53 (two months ago) link
pic.twitter.com/6WVQRUM3ij— The Gordon Jackson Five (@mypalfootfoot7) October 16, 2024
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 20:08 (two months ago) link
disgusting:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/17/labour-backtracks-genocide-ruling-china-uyghurs-lammy-visit
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 17 October 2024 12:20 (two months ago) link
At least their approach to genocide is consistent
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2024 15:50 (two months ago) link
It's nice to see that Munya Chawawa vid about Starmer lacking a spine go viral, but he is of course missing the point: Starmer thinks that Palestinians being massacred in their tens of thousand is good, actually, because he is a racist and genocidaire.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 17 October 2024 17:26 (two months ago) link
you don't get a fucking trilateral commission invite if you are squeamish about genocide
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 17 October 2024 17:30 (two months ago) link
UK ministers to stick by Tory plan for £1.3bn of cuts to sickness benefits https://t.co/jiWOf6q2Uo— Financial Times (@FT) October 17, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 October 2024 08:35 (two months ago) link
I don't understand what can be cut when people already aren't being given enough to live on
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2024 11:26 (two months ago) link
People’s lives.
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 18 October 2024 11:32 (two months ago) link
I've had some horrific thoughts - reduce other benefits for PIP recipients, cut the LCWRA amount for UC claimants?
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2024 11:35 (two months ago) link
making people who can't work much poorer, yeah that would really get the economy cooking and be a supersonic boon for growth! Remember when Gideon did all this shit and all national debt was wiped clean and there was massive economic growth. That Mayonaisse-Keynes fellow ain't got nothing on these fucking economic superbrains. Just plow on with the socially destructive shit that didn't fucking work previously .. the alleged adults in the room.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 18 October 2024 12:20 (two months ago) link
could you imagine being a politician and looking at the least generous disability benefits in western Europe and saying, we've got to make some cuts here lads, they are getting paid too much. I'm glad Liz Kendall is looking so haggard and tired in that pic, I genuinely hope the job kills her!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 18 October 2024 14:16 (two months ago) link
I hope anything does tbh
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2024 14:21 (two months ago) link
Tories were leering, performative cruelty, this is sadface performative cruelty hiding behind fiscal responsibility, thus giving them plausible deniability for driving even more of the citizenry into poverty at the behest of their sponsors.
― the nervous laughter of fools (Matt #2), Friday, 18 October 2024 14:34 (two months ago) link
Problem is AI will be used to deliver healthcare and all sorts by the government itself. There will be many disasters to come, with shittier than usual soap plotlines being the least of it.
Creatives have to make a stand and boycott broadcasters who do this. Everyone who lost opportunities during the US strike has to be willing to do the same here pic.twitter.com/2YXGvI2A8d— Cat Jones (@CatJwrites) October 20, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 October 2024 14:12 (two months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/21/martyn-blake-met-police-officer-who-shot-chris-kaba-acquitted
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 October 2024 16:31 (two months ago) link
well there's a surprise
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 21 October 2024 17:43 (two months ago) link
that poor family, so heartbreaking but eh shit happens apparently :(
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 21 October 2024 17:46 (two months ago) link
Elsewhere on the internet John Burn-Murdoch is giving a perfect illustration of center left thinking.
Tom nooooooo, just like with building more housing, if anyone stands to make as much as £1 it must be stopped immediately— John Burn-Murdoch (@jburnmurdoch) October 21, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 08:53 (two months ago) link
He's just pissy because so many people clowned him for his "what's wrong with selling Peter Thiel everybody's health info?" take
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2024 11:07 (two months ago) link
Yeah, think that's where his politics came out in the open. Can't hide behind a graph.
Which is politics that wants to present as helping the poor but actually cedes ground to the right and loses in the long run.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 11:13 (two months ago) link
Some nice news for a change.
In Somerset, a giant science experiment to tackle flooding began 10 years ago.Rather than trying to resist the sea, a large tract of land was surrendered to it. Lots of people were opposed. The local MP called it “an extravagant, ridiculous scheme”🧵 pic.twitter.com/nx3r21NkxB— Esther Bintliff (@estherbintliff) October 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 08:21 (one month ago) link
Meanwhile this is what Lab are doing about the environment.
Environment secretary @SteveReedMP accepted tickets from a company linked to Northumbria waterHe says he didn't know about the links between the two companies...👀#KayBurley SS pic.twitter.com/nmDyyLOe9r— Kay Burley (@KayBurley) October 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 08:35 (one month ago) link
On the plus side if Trump wins the special relationship will be toast.
Trump campaign takes legal action over Labour Party’s support for Harris https://t.co/iO7iMS5ga7— Nile Gardiner (@NileGardiner) October 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 10:38 (one month ago) link
Xxp the nice news being that people were opposed and the mp called it ridiculous?
― SPENGE (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 23 October 2024 10:38 (one month ago) link
(xp) Yes the legal statements put out by the Trump team are the funniest thing they've done all year.
― The count has shot himself (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 October 2024 10:55 (one month ago) link
― SPENGE (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 23 October 2024 bookmarkflaglink
And that Somerset has been saved...maybe that's not so nice.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 11:23 (one month ago) link
wow harsh
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 October 2024 11:30 (one month ago) link
i'm getting a window survey done to replace two windows. this guy calls me "sir" constantly which is a little grating. i ask if he wants some tea, or water, and he asks for a black coffee, which i make, and then he starts talking to me about TV shows. i tell him i mainly listen to the radio, just to close of his discussions of these shows. he says he does too. "what do you listen to?" i say. LBC in the morning, he says, and then TalkSport. fair enough i say. he asks me where i'm from, i tell him Tennessee, and he says "well at least you don't have all these buggers coming in from France on boats!" i'm kind of stunned. i say, well, we have plenty of people who come from other countries. like my family - originally Scottish! this doesn't faze him. "what i don't understand," he says "is that we pay France 500 million to monitor their coasts but these boats are still getting through!"
at this point i just can't stand this twerp, i just can't stand it. i say the situation makes me very sad. i ask him to imagine what it must be like to be so desperate, that your life is so messed up, that you're willing to risk it, and risk your children's lives, to climb into one of these boats. i tell him we have to stop thinking about this race, and that race, and this country and that country, and realise that we're all one human race. that we're all brothers and sisters. that we have to help each other, otherwise we're never going to make it.
he says that's right sir. all one human race. like when these people say black lives matter. all lives matter! we're all the same under the skin! i say yes, we are all the same, and worthy of love and respect. you're right. i couldn't agree more. right sir he says, now don't talk to me, i need to do the measurements and i don't want to make a mistake. go right ahead i say.
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 October 2024 12:00 (one month ago) link
I doubt anything much will come of the matter, but I did at least appreciate the Guardian picking this photo of natural politician SKSKC
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/24/keir-starmer-urged-to-engage-on-reparations-at-commonwealth-summit
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 24 October 2024 12:41 (one month ago) link
aw tracer i feel your pain
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 24 October 2024 12:46 (one month ago) link
🚨Rachel Reeves allegedly LIED on her CVGuido has today claimed that the Chancellor has greatly exaggerated her position at HBOS. Reeves claimed she was an ‘Economist’ on her CV, but it turns out she may have only worked in the COMPLAINTS team!That was a small support unit… pic.twitter.com/cOiHPLcb4v— Alex Armstrong (@alexharmstrong) October 24, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 12:52 (one month ago) link
and she is a shite chess player, allegedly, despite claiming to be a champion.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 12:53 (one month ago) link
jfc tracer, just hate these situations and they seem to happen more and more frequently. every other time I take a taxi they have GB News on.
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 24 October 2024 12:58 (one month ago) link
i've noticed this before in the UK, that when a racist finds out i'm from Tennessee they think that means i want to listen to their wearying racist bullshit!
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 October 2024 13:13 (one month ago) link
long distance misinformation? apologies to chuck berry
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 13:25 (one month ago) link
> Reeves claimed she was an ‘Economist’ on her CV, but it turns out she may have only worked in the COMPLAINTS team!
both these things can be true
― koogs, Thursday, 24 October 2024 14:33 (one month ago) link
next you will be telling me that her 26th place finish in a chess competition does technically make her a "chess champion" and that the book she had published wasn't a load of plagiarised piffle and direct wiki c+ps eh? well I'm not listening, buddy!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 14:46 (one month ago) link
she never said in an interview that she worked in the complaints division at HBOS. why? because it wouldn't make her look like a big dog of economics, she's a lying piece of shit and an economic lightweight to boot
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 14:50 (one month ago) link
Hi deep does this go? Do we even have to question her claim that she gets her hair cut at a really good salon in London?
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 24 October 2024 14:56 (one month ago) link
I think we can judge that one for ourselves.
― The count has shot himself (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 October 2024 14:58 (one month ago) link
she claims Nancy Astor is her main political hero (and had a portrait of her on her feature wall of the office), yet if she had done even just a basic skim reading of N Astor history it would reveal that she was a pro-Nazi who embarrassed the Tories with her rampant antisemitism. So she's either for Nazi supporters or is so superficial and incurious that she doesn't know shit about her. Her whole bullshit persona is going to unravel now. Isn't a proper economist, a mediocre chess player, get's hair done at supercuts
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 15:10 (one month ago) link
Unusual details in Wikipedia articles, they're all at it!
Astor's antisemitism has been widely documented and has been criticised in recent years, particularly in light of former Prime Minister Theresa May's 2019 unveiling of a statue in her honour with Prime Minister Boris Johnson in attendance,[2][4][74] and more recently after Labour MP Rachel Reeves commemorated Astor in a series of tweets.[75] The then-leader of the Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn, while opposed to her anti-Semitism, recognised she was the first woman MP to take up her place in Parliament and so praised installation of the statue, commenting "I'm really pleased the statue is going up".[76]During the George Floyd protests in 2020, the word "Nazi" was spray-painted on its base. The statue was on a list published on a website called Topple the Racists.[77]
During the George Floyd protests in 2020, the word "Nazi" was spray-painted on its base. The statue was on a list published on a website called Topple the Racists.[77]
― joe meek's cutoff (Matt #2), Thursday, 24 October 2024 15:18 (one month ago) link
NA once lamented that it was a real shame the holocaust never got as far as Brooklyn. I'd say Corbyn ought to know better, but, lol, he doesn't and never has!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 15:21 (one month ago) link
Stafford Cripps had her number. In parliament he referred to her as "our honourable member for Berlin". I mean, imagine the reaction if Jez had a portrait of her in his office.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 15:24 (one month ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/oct/24/uks-borrowing-costs-rise-on-news-that-reeve-is-changing-fiscal-rules
“It seems to be related to Reeves last night suggesting that the fiscal rules would be rewritten to increase spending on infrastructure,” Lyn Graham-Taylor, a senior rates strategist at Rabobank, told Reuters.
the idea that these bullshit fiscal rules were set in stone/non-negotiable as Reeves had been saying up to now was just such a fucking pointless and ultimately harmful self-restriction to put on a "change" govt. I guess she has been told as much.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 17:34 (one month ago) link
created her own story that will cast this (theoretically) positive investment in the worst possible light - as a reversal, another "promise" broken. this is really huge-brained politics, absolutely masterful, grown-up stuff
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 October 2024 18:03 (one month ago) link
there was an economist I listened to the other week, who was a former Bernie adviser and was talking about how regressive the UK Labour govt's fiscally hawkish deficit obsessed mindset is. She put it simply for an economics moron like me + said basically it's a historically antiquated gold standard era mindset, that doesn't belong here, like they don't have to find/produce the gold to pay for national infrastructure/healthcare/public services etc.. that's not how it works. And 14 years of that shit, you don't need to be a hotshot LSE grad to know that this has been a major fail, on every fucking metric - apart from if you belong in the top few %.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 19:15 (one month ago) link
This kind of thing makes me fume, people responsible should be in jail.https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/25/council-destroys-missing-tenants-belongings-after-banning-his-family-from-flat
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 October 2024 10:28 (one month ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/oct/25/new-uk-freeports-budget-labour-starmer?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
More favours for their corporate donors.
Critics of freeports say there is little evidence they attract new investment or help the economy. The Office for Budget Responsibility said in 2021 that tax breaks in England’s freeports would cost the government £50m a year and that their impact on GDP was likely to be so small it would be “difficult to discern even in retrospect”.
Trade unions have in the past called for clarity on how freeports impact on workers’ and union rights. The prime minister’s spokesperson said that “where necessary the government will make improvements to the freeport programme” and that the employment rights bill would help safeguard workers’ rights.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 25 October 2024 14:37 (one month ago) link
Labour MP illustrates Labour attitude to the electorate in awkward symbolism shocker
🚨 BREAKING: Labour has suspended Mike Amesbury after CCTV showed him sucker punching a constituent pic.twitter.com/t9PMJ5d5Sg— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) October 27, 2024
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 October 2024 18:41 (one month ago) link
No no nv. Political discourse in this country has been so eroded and divisive . MPs absolutely must be protected from the violence of some of these elements.
― oscar bravo, Sunday, 27 October 2024 20:16 (one month ago) link
They're gonna parachute fucking Ashworth in here aren't they?
I bet Paul Mason's got his A2Z out already
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 October 2024 20:21 (one month ago) link
put him in a cage with mike hookem
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 27 October 2024 20:42 (one month ago) link
Lookalike: Otto and Wes.From the Private Eye Annual 2024, out now.The year's best cartoons, jokes, parodies and topical sketches from the UK's most successful satirical news and current affairs magazine, illustrated throughout with cartoons, sketches and photo-bubbles. 📕 In… pic.twitter.com/o3fJOTjRiF— Private Eye Magazine (@PrivateEyeNews) October 28, 2024
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Monday, 28 October 2024 19:10 (one month ago) link
That’s Otto Pilot from Airplane for those who don’t want to follow the link.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Monday, 28 October 2024 19:11 (one month ago) link
Another local, who didn't want to be named, said Mr Amesbury drank regularly with his friends in Frodsham and was often 'p***** up' in local bars.
This story is the gift that keeps giving.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14011613/MP-Mike-Amesbury-arguing-constituent-closure-bridge-punch.html
― The count has shot himself (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2024 20:22 (one month ago) link
Total brainrot...
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/10e0/live/f73a6e00-953d-11ef-8e6d-e3e64e16c628.jpg.webp
― The count has shot himself (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2024 20:26 (one month ago) link
Oops, wrong thread!
― The count has shot himself (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Quality intake of MPs.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2024 21:12 (one month ago) link
This bus fare cap lift is hilarious, they are so cooked.
If you want an idea of why removing the £2 bus fare cap may be so damaging beyond polls, read Greg's quote from our focus group. At a time of deep political distrust it's one of few recent examples of a policy people can point to that tangibly improves their lives for the better pic.twitter.com/HBacQdz3ww— Luke Tryl (@LukeTryl) October 28, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 13:47 (one month ago) link
it does seem like the act of someone who doesn't use buses
― koogs, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 14:04 (one month ago) link
and hates poor people and universality
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 15:12 (one month ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/oct/29/hard-hit-defra-to-have-budget-slashed-further-despite-warnings
At Defra, these cuts are understood to largely fall on nature and flood protections. Plans to cut about £100m a year from England’s nature-friendly farming budget have been proposeed. As part of the EU, British farmers were allotted funding based on how much land they managed. The new post-Brexit scheme is financed by the UK government and pays farmers to protect nature. As 60% of land in England is farmed, this scheme is supposed to be the main driver in reducing species decline and restoring nature.
Reed has also refused to commit to flooding payments promised by the Conservatives, and Defra insiders have indicated this money is to be shaved back. As it stands, the Defra budget faces cuts of at least 20%, according to sources at the department.
Elliot Chapman-Jones, head of public affairs at The Wildlife Trusts, said: “Defra’s funding was slashed during austerity, hampering its ability to protect nature and stop river pollution. Nature is dying and without a substantial increase in funding – particularly for nature-friendly farming – the government’s target to halt nature’s decline by the end of the decade will be unachievable.”
Merrily destroying nature and the habitable environment to project "common sense" to the press who will them them anyway
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 16:22 (one month ago) link
*will hate them anyway
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 16:23 (one month ago) link
the £3 billion annual cost of extending the 5p fuel duty cut is roughly equivalent to the annual fare take of every bus in England — £3.1 billion in 2023. so you could nearly make every bus free for the same cost https://t.co/1bWvqcYVx8— Jon Stone (@joncstone) October 30, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 October 2024 19:25 (one month ago) link
not even any comedy value here
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:09 (one month ago) link
in a result that's surprised nobody
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:10 (one month ago) link
The result was obvious as soon as they walked in the room, Badenoch smirking and Jenrick looking like he was about to burst into tears.
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:10 (one month ago) link
looking forward to some big thinkpieces about identity and representation which will be bollocks but will also tell some truths about the Labour Party
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:12 (one month ago) link
anyway, stoked for the sadness
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:18 (one month ago) link
Can't wait to have proper fascism, none of this briefcase bollocks.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:46 (one month ago) link
Apparently, even before the result was announced, there was a lot of chat among Tories about who is actually going to fight the next election. The assumption being it'll be Cleverley and that's why he isn't going to take up a Shadow Cabinet role.
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:49 (one month ago) link
Might be a fun bet on neither of the current leaders to be there at the next GE
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:51 (one month ago) link
If Tories do well at the next council elections she could be their candidate at the next GE?
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:58 (one month ago) link
She's got to survive for 5 years, I don't see that happening.
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:59 (one month ago) link
What do you think she will do so that Tory MPs get rid of her?
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:10 (one month ago) link
Look like she's not going to win the next election.
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:15 (one month ago) link
Anyway, there's plenty of time for things to go wrong especially if people were plotting who will be your successor before you were even crowned!
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:18 (one month ago) link
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 bookmarkflaglink
The government is polling badly already. If Tories perform a bit more strongly at council level, and the base feels energized she will contest the GE.
But yeah its a long way to go, she is not exactly very bright
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:27 (one month ago) link
if she can put together a pact with Reform then she's basically got it in the bag already. All that's left is for Labour to tack even further to the right to try to keep up.
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:35 (one month ago) link
Pacts with Reform will require political skill to pull off. Huge opportunity for the next Tory leader in five years.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:40 (one month ago) link
if badenoch ends up being utterly hopeless as leader it'll probably just be farage who benefits? labour's best hope is probably just for reform to keep splitting the vote enough to damage the tories without actually being able to win much
― ufo, Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:41 (one month ago) link
The government has a majority of 174, they're not going anywhere for five years, not sure the fact that they're polling badly afer four months is telling us all that much tbh.
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:51 (one month ago) link
I don't disagree the government will stay in for five years.
In terms of opposition, though, polling can be an indicator. If the Tories and Lab are equal now, then Badenoch has a lot of breathing room as opposed to IDS or whatever ghoul they had as leader.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:01 (one month ago) link
I'm struggling to imagine a scenario where the Tories and Reform - or a good chunk of their voters at least - don't engineer a rapprochement at the next GE
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:18 (one month ago) link
A lot of today's sophisticated racists can also clearly deal with a black leader if she offers them the right policies
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:20 (one month ago) link
starmer tanking his own popularity pretty much immediately is a terrible sign for his ability to win the next election (unless he gets even luckier with how the right split themselves) & it's not like the party has any ideas that anyone will actually like. if things don't turn around some of the others in the party with ambition will try to force him out eventually, not that that will fix anything for them though.
― ufo, Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:26 (one month ago) link
She’s in the fine tradition of being a jerk to people her supporters hate, and if the hated people are lefty Black and Asian people, so much the better for Tory members. I’ve heard lots of conservatives either side of the Atlantic use people like her to justify their own prejudices.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:29 (one month ago) link
a really stupid thing that feels way too likely now that i've thought of it is labour's genius strategists deliberately trying to boost farage's popularity so that the right-wing vote will be even more split, but this would very likely just backfire and end up with farage on top
― ufo, Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:31 (one month ago) link
Anyway this is all for tomorrow.
Let's enjoy a Tory wife crying.
Robert Jenrick's wife thought she had applauded Kemi Badenoch enough - then realised she had to carry on… 😂 pic.twitter.com/ZIHxdB8BwO— M A R T I N R O G E R S ⭐️ (@martinrogers92) November 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:35 (one month ago) link
Lol tbf I usually get tired of clapping and tap out early in any situation
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 14:01 (one month ago) link
add James Dyson to the people complaining about the budget, unsurprisingly
― koogs, Monday, 4 November 2024 08:26 (one month ago) link
The worst person you know etc.
Kemi Badenoch: "I find it astonishing that Rachel Reeves keeps talking about how she's the first female Chancellor, which is a very, very low-glass ceiling... which she may have smashed."#bbclaurak pic.twitter.com/HWM6T9mnY0— Haggis_UK 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 (@Haggis_UK) November 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 November 2024 10:43 (one month ago) link
looks like this is more about standard local government fuckery than politics but still another huge win for the most popular Labour Prime Minister ever
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/newcastle-labour-exodus-ex-council-30304663
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2024 18:02 (one month ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/06/donald-trump-tariffs-would-cut-uk-growth-by-half-and-push-up-inflation-thinktank-warns
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 07:53 (one month ago) link
Lmao
Congratulations to @realDonaldTrump on your victory. The UK has no greater friend than the US, with the special relationship being cherished on both sides of the Atlantic for more than 80 years. We look forward to working with you and @JDVance in the years ahead.— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) November 6, 2024
― gyac, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 08:29 (one month ago) link
Special relationship is going to the dogs.
Funny its happening to this government.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 08:36 (one month ago) link
My own analysis of Hillary's harrowing defeat has come to the following conclusions; Liberals are great and we should carry on as normal.— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) November 9, 2016
lol, poor self-regarding shameless tosser Lammy and his tragically short-lived tenure as FS.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 08:59 (one month ago) link
Re: Newcastle, here is the former (Corbynite) mayor of it and his take.
Labour have just lost control of Newcastle City Council, with 6 councillors resigning and becoming independents. I expect more will follow. I'll be supporting a progressive alliance in the next elections. pic.twitter.com/rfguKeMMHq— Jamie Driscoll (@JamieDriscollNE) November 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 09:36 (one month ago) link
we’re gonna have a poster with an Orwell dn making that exact post in fairly short order, satire is dead on ilx xp
― Heartbreaking: the worst novel you’ve finished has a staggering genius (wins), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 09:40 (one month ago) link
going to be galling watching this shower of cunts suck up to trump for the next four years
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 10:13 (one month ago) link
Sadiq“I know that many Londoners will be anxious about the outcome of the US Presidential election. Many will be fearful about what it will mean for democracy and for women’s rights, or how the result impacts the situation in the Middle East or the fate of Ukraine. Others will be worried about the future of NATO or tackling the climate crisis. "London is - and will always be - for everyone. We will always be pro-women, pro-diversity, pro-climate and pro-human rights. "London is a place where we’re proud of our diversity, proud of the contribution of all our communities and proud of our spirit of unity. These are some of the values that will continue to bind us together as Londoners." "The lesson of today is that progress is not inevitable. But asserting our progressive values is more important than ever - re-committing to building a world where racism and hatred is rejected, the fundamental rights of women and girls are upheld, and where we continue to tackle the crisis of climate change head on."
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 10:32 (one month ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Flag_of_the_Greater_London_Authority_%282020%29.png
🤣
― conrad, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:28 (one month ago) link
Good statement from Khan. Only one in the party with any balls it seems
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:40 (one month ago) link
it's OK. I'll give it a 5/10.This guy gets a 0.https://i.postimg.cc/VN29FDqj/a6d10772-9163-4645-b9dc-c83e17f61b35.jpg
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:41 (one month ago) link
Badenoch says when Trump was last president Labour MPs signed a motion saying Trump should not be allowed to speak in Westminster Hall. Will Starmer show that Labour are more than student politicians by inviting Trump to speak here on his next visit.
why is Badenoch using her debut PMQs to bash Labour for not loving Trump enough, isn't he massively unpopular with the UK public? Is this her trying to appeal to Reform voters or just her being a twitter-brained culture war true believer?
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 13:46 (one month ago) link
Also still using the "student politics" slur when it's already been co-opted by Starmer? I don't see the point in that. I think we're about to find out she's another Conservative leader who is nowhere as smart as either she thinks she is or has been given credit for.
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 13:51 (one month ago) link
She could never be as smart as she thinks she is.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 14:52 (one month ago) link
Half of the public still doesn't even know who she is. If she can make Starmer look in bed with Trump, who is massively unpopular here, like you said, I don't think it hurts her - just him. As much as people didn't care for the bad warmongering policy, Blair being mates with Bush seemed to do as much damage in the publics eye, like he would put so much faith in someone treated as a dangerous dimwit.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 14:58 (one month ago) link
she's a puddle deep culture-war/childish attention-seeker type pol, and clearly without even a slight clue on how to attack such a pitifully weak and unpopular opponent as Starmer yet. Weakest piss Tory LOTTO since quiet man.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 14:59 (one month ago) link
Not defending her obviously, but I think if it works, Starmer looks like a prat and if it doesn't, she can brush it off without any issue.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 14:59 (one month ago) link
Both those last 2 posts can be true at the same time, and I think they are
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 15:14 (one month ago) link
Hearing that Labour activists added as many as minus 14 million votes to the Democrats total.— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) November 6, 2024
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 19:40 (one month ago) link
fucking hell, Ashworth was over there. There is a man with the entitled rank arrogance, the self-awareness and integrity and complete deficit of any sense of democratic accountability, to be a real fucking asset to the Dems, loololl.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 19:53 (one month ago) link
not keen on criticising people for being attention-seeking usually, but fucking hell lembit m8
I invite BBC to share one single neutral, or pro-Trump, report they’ve broadcast since his victory. I can’t find one. Unless BBC can and do share this, I’ll seek a legal perspective on their reportage of Trump in the context of the BBC Charter— Lembit Öpik (@lembitopik) November 6, 2024
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 23:34 (one month ago) link
The fish rots from the head pic.twitter.com/twkk5Lksyf— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) November 10, 2024
I think it's time we expel Keir Starmer from the Labour party for his disgraceful anti-Semitism
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 10 November 2024 12:49 (one month ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/nov/12/justin-welby-step-down-archbishop-canterbury
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 14:16 (one month ago) link
Another victory for the whole mob
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2024 15:12 (one month ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/14/friendship-with-prince-charles-made-paedophile-bishop-peter-ball-impregnable
Considering his extremely unfortunate track record of friendship and association with paedophiles, probably best that King Charles doesn't get involved in the selection process, eh
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 15:30 (one month ago) link
Good riddance
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 November 2024 15:34 (one month ago) link
Keir Starmer is challenged by @AyoubKhanMP on Gaza and why he refuses to call Israel’s mass slaughter a genocide. His response: “Im well aware of the definition of genocide, and that’s why I’ve never referred to this as a genocide…” Human rights lawyer btw. Shameful. pic.twitter.com/NwZp67xMN7— Hamza Yusuf (@Hamza_a96) November 13, 2024
Starmer is loathsome racist genocidal scum
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 13 November 2024 14:41 (one month ago) link
absolutely thrilled to discover that my local authority pension is not in fact something to help me afford food when i'm too old to work but a huge pile of finance capital for any fuckwit with a startup
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 November 2024 17:27 (one month ago) link
Rachel Reeves has told City bankers attending her Mansion House speech that regulations put in place to protect the economy after the global financial crisis had “gone too far”.Speaking at the glitzy annual gathering in the Square Mile on Thursday, the chancellor called the financial services sector the “crown jewel” of the UK economy.She argued that tighter rules on banks and investment institutions after the 2007-8 crash had created “a system which sought to eliminate risk-taking”.“While it was right that successive governments made regulatory changes after the global financial crisis, to ensure that regulation kept pace with the global economy of the time, it is important that we learn the lessons of the past,” Reeves said.“These changes have resulted in a system which sought to eliminate risk-taking. That has gone too far and, in places, it has had unintended consequences, which we must now address.”WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG
― My Large Grandpa Says This Plugin Is Gorgeous! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 15 November 2024 07:35 (one month ago) link
how will we tell if the economy crashes?
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 November 2024 07:43 (one month ago) link
Given what might happen with the US economy there'll be more of this nonsense.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 15 November 2024 09:06 (one month ago) link
did they not just see what happened in america to the centre left party that ignored working class people or
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 November 2024 09:12 (one month ago) link
tbf labour were over there welcoming the dems’ efforts to ignore working class people and encouraging them to go further
― My Large Grandpa Says This Plugin Is Gorgeous! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 15 November 2024 09:42 (one month ago) link
When I heard them using “we have more in common…” I knew Noonoo Labour had been consulted. If they went with oh, I don’t know, ONE AMERICA (after the DFL’s One Minnesota) or FOR THE MANY (2017) they might’ve had better luck. I am sure the former strategy was suggested.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 15 November 2024 11:03 (one month ago) link
It's as condescendingly vacuous a political slogan as "don't be angry, be nice" or some shit like that. I fucking hate it and always have done. Especially when MiC sponsor so many shite events in an area with so much poverty. People who depend on foodbanks, live in fuel poverty, can't afford essential basics like new clothing or white goods. Listen lads, the word is, despite you living in an endless monthly of poverty and despair - this will cheer you up - wE'vE aLl got MoRe iN CoMmon!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 15 November 2024 17:45 (one month ago) link
of course nothing will come of it but i'm enjoying the public dissection of Rachel Reeves's fake CV
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2024 07:47 (one month ago) link
yes, it's v funny. When you type the chancellor's name on GS and "CV" comes above "budget" then, lol, this hasn't gone away yet. I feel like the book she published that was a mix of c+p'ed wiki entries and shameless plagiarism should have got this much attention. That also revealed what kind of a bullshit operator she is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 19 November 2024 08:20 (one month ago) link
i sometimes think that the current government's superpower is being so weirdly repulsive that you can't listen to them for more than a minute. I definitely feel that SKSKCs voice has gotten worse and reeves is excruciating to listen to. its challenging to pay enough attention to them to have an opinion beyond this. streeting is also in this category.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 19 November 2024 15:35 (one month ago) link
JUST ANNOUNCED: A Scottish Labour Government will reinstate the Winter Fuel Payment. pic.twitter.com/4UzfnThB8P— Anas Sarwar (@AnasSarwar) November 19, 2024
I can't even process or describe the interlocking levels of cynicism in this, and I'd love to know if anyone believes it or what they feel it says about the government if it can even be true
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 19 November 2024 16:12 (one month ago) link
the man’s clearly been radicalised by seeing the positive impact of his family business finally paying their workers the living wage
― My Large Grandpa Says This Plugin Is Gorgeous! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 19 November 2024 16:20 (one month ago) link
Found a leftwing defence of farmers.
https://theconversation.com/farm-inheritance-tax-farmers-cannot-go-green-if-they-are-in-the-red-243527
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 November 2024 09:10 (one month ago) link
Well now.
I have sent a letter of complaint this week to the Electoral Commission and Redbridge electoral services outlining serious irregularities on the night of the count on July 5th in Ilford North, raising questions regarding compliance with electoral law and guidance. I have retained…— Leanne Mohamad (@LeanneMohamad) November 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 November 2024 20:22 (one month ago) link
Ashworth will be demanding an investigation into why they couldn't rig his seat as well as this fucking prick's seat!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 22 November 2024 20:39 (one month ago) link
If Pontypridd was an economically important financial centre you'd think something would be done about it. As it is we'll keep letting it flood.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 November 2024 14:15 (four weeks ago) link
think we've established by now it's not the job of government to worry about the safety or economic wellbeing of the public
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 November 2024 14:56 (four weeks ago) link
I know we all predicted it but it’s really funny how fast the government has gone from landslide to widely regarded as absolute shit almost before the Tories cleared their stuff out
― gyac, Sunday, 24 November 2024 14:58 (four weeks ago) link
their vote share at the GE was so marginal that they've only had to alienate a small percentage of the people that voted for them out of hope more than optimism to get to this stage. it's very bleak for the future tbh.
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 November 2024 15:02 (four weeks ago) link
Extremely bleak given Reform polling, yeah
― gyac, Sunday, 24 November 2024 15:06 (four weeks ago) link
not so much sleepwalking towards fascism as blithely shepherding people towards it because they don't care, they'll be fine
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 November 2024 15:08 (four weeks ago) link
4 years, 9 months (max) 'til PM Farage.
― stirmonster, Sunday, 24 November 2024 15:52 (four weeks ago) link
What the fuck are any of us paying our taxes for if not stuff like this
A government minister takes to TV to publicise a GoFundMe appeal raising money to help families devastated by the floods. pic.twitter.com/YsNbr8QVOu— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) November 25, 2024
― gyac, Monday, 25 November 2024 11:25 (three weeks ago) link
it's okay blackrock will get our money for carbon capture....profit + flooded towns $$$$
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 25 November 2024 11:58 (three weeks ago) link
I think it will go higher.
Non-European migrants now account for 86% of all immigration into Britain.Think about that.— Matt Goodwin (@GoodwinMJ) November 28, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 November 2024 14:41 (three weeks ago) link
Wonderful news. Fuck the Labour response to this ofc.
― nashwan, Thursday, 28 November 2024 14:52 (three weeks ago) link
I work with international students in London and there are almost none from the EU.
― bad love's all you'll get from me (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 28 November 2024 14:54 (three weeks ago) link
Yep, you’ll get some at a few elite universities but if you can study in English for free, or a negligible amount, in Germany, the Netherlands or Sweden and have a guaranteed pathway to post-work employment in the same country, why would you bother coming here?
― ShariVari, Thursday, 28 November 2024 15:26 (three weeks ago) link
Starmer says today's ONS figures show Tories were running an 'open borders experiment' by designKeir Starmer says the figures from the ONS today show the last government were running “an open borders experiment”.He makes the point, made by a Labour spokesperson earlier (see 11.25am), about how the figures show net migration going up four times under the Tories.This wasn’t just bad luck, he says.He claims this happened by design. It was an experiment to turn Britain into a country with open borders.And now the Tories want to wave this away with a simple “we got it wrong”.That is unforgiveable, he says.
― My Large Grandpa Says This Plugin Is Gorgeous! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 November 2024 15:38 (three weeks ago) link
Brexit strikes again.
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 November 2024 15:38 (three weeks ago) link
Pathetic all round.
Chris Mason says the UK appears to have become "addicted" to immigration despite people for years indicating they want immigration numbers to fall.
Why should people believe that Starmer will do this, after previous prime ministers haven't achieved it, he asks.
Starmer says today's migration figures are "really stark" and should "shock all of us".
He says policy under the previous Conservative government has driven up immigration to "record levels", adding that the problem is the "way the economy works".
― nashwan, Thursday, 28 November 2024 15:39 (three weeks ago) link
Are all Masons stupid?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 November 2024 15:48 (three weeks ago) link
... and worthless? It would appear so.
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 November 2024 15:58 (three weeks ago) link
exploitation - it's coming home
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 November 2024 16:20 (three weeks ago) link
> Non-European migrants now account for 86% of all immigration into Britain.
is that just because they've tanked the eu migrant numbers?
― koogs, Thursday, 28 November 2024 16:52 (three weeks ago) link
i don’t think so - i think net migration is way up
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 November 2024 16:53 (three weeks ago) link
oh, i could've just scrolled down
― koogs, Thursday, 28 November 2024 16:55 (three weeks ago) link
some good charts here - https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 November 2024 16:56 (three weeks ago) link
turns out it's both, total has doubled, eu has halved (roughly)
― koogs, Thursday, 28 November 2024 16:57 (three weeks ago) link
Leader of the Labour Party using fascist conspiracy rhetoric, huge victory for getting the Tories out
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 November 2024 17:05 (three weeks ago) link
Libs thinking this to be clever, audacious messaging
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 November 2024 17:40 (three weeks ago) link
just venting here so dont mind me, but we pioneered the trashing of the planet and plundered the wealth and resources of many nations, we've tortured, killed and enslaved other peoples in their millions and imposed our precious english culture on half the globe, if people want to come to this hideous shithole then its the least we can fucking do
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 28 November 2024 18:12 (three weeks ago) link
when I am discussing this with people I have to bite my tongue and not say that I think the country deserves to be asset stripped by all the people we have done the same to over the years, because it isn't the best persuasion tactic but also they are not here to do that anyway. but the truth is we do deserve it.
― bad love's all you'll get from me (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 28 November 2024 18:15 (three weeks ago) link
just want to apologise about my post - i shouldnt have used the past tense
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 28 November 2024 18:17 (three weeks ago) link
The foul rw rhetoric reveals who Starmer always was, and it must have been an enormous strain on him to pretend to be an entirely different political creature from 2017 to 2020. But let's highlight Starmer's other main character feature: lying. His framing of this is simply another way to avoid engaging with the public on economic realities, in terms of why immigration happens in Western neoliberal economies, and what it would take to change that. Forgive me, but there's a post on the labouruk sub by Sophie_Blitz_123 which I couldn't put better:
We had an actually open border with the EU to start with. The idea that liberalised immigration rules constitutes a one nation open borders experiment while an actual one continent open borders experiment does not really begs the question "what do you think open borders means".
Immigration is where it is because that's where the needs of the country are. The Tories didn't let immigration increase because they just really wanted to move towards open borders. They were largely eased to bring in more workers for public services and industries that needed them. Now, you can make an argument that that's wrong and we should be more self sufficient but it's nonetheless true.
Starmer will run into the exact same issue as the Tories, he's promised lower immigration, but all of his targets in regards to schools, the NHS, housing and any construction, etc will depend on work visas, they will probably have to go up to meet the targets, and bringing them down makes it a dead end.
There's multiple things Starmer could do to bring down migration without huge consequences, but all of them require government money being put into things that are definitely not in the budget.
My point is, no matter how you feel about immigration as a concept, I'm so tired of the truth just not mattering or being perceived as important. The Tory v Labour slanging matches where they just shout "no u" at each other are doing extreme damage to our ability to actually discuss policy.
And most of all its just sparking flames in the general public. We can't keep having governments tell everyone problems are caused by immigration, promise to lower it, and then not do that. Its insane how toxified all of this is.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 28 November 2024 18:28 (three weeks ago) link
get sophieblitz123 onto ilx pronto, she is otm
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 November 2024 18:39 (three weeks ago) link
No one does it quite like Britain's right wing press pic.twitter.com/O8AidhHk84— Luke Savage (@LukewSavage) November 28, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 November 2024 21:24 (three weeks ago) link
hey it's not like the building and maintenance of 12th century castles was entirely funded by taxation now was it?
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 28 November 2024 21:32 (three weeks ago) link
call that a fucking castle? demolish it!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 28 November 2024 21:39 (three weeks ago) link
I swear I saw that pile on one of those "twat takes on refurbishment of a historic home and fucks it up" TV shows a few years back.
Anyway, this absurd Louise Haigh resignation drama seems like a) a deliberate attempt to lower the bar for ministerial transgression, or b) an incompetent shitshow. Sends out a positive message to victims of street violence anyway, esp. if they're women.
― spiral galaxy 0800 505050 (Matt #2), Friday, 29 November 2024 10:14 (three weeks ago) link
Someone has obviously been sitting on this for a while, though unclear whether that was McSweeney.
The Guardian account of what she’s meant to have done is pretty nonsensical. It seems likely she filed a false report to get an upgraded phone, Aviva worked that out and reported her to the police but you’d assume that was known to Starmer when he appointed her, if the case was disclosed as claimed.
― ShariVari, Friday, 29 November 2024 10:59 (three weeks ago) link
Former Corbyn supporter I believe?
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Friday, 29 November 2024 11:24 (three weeks ago) link
Yep.
― ShariVari, Friday, 29 November 2024 11:27 (three weeks ago) link
How unbelievably petty.
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 29 November 2024 11:38 (three weeks ago) link
Sacked for offending cruises.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 November 2024 12:14 (three weeks ago) link
you've got to mind your P's and O's if want to survive in the Kieth Staliner cabinet. I've got zero sympathy for anyone still willing to work with this cunt tbh. Couldn't care less if he does Ed in next.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 November 2024 13:40 (three weeks ago) link
Ed Miliband convinced SKSKC to stand for Parliament in the first place, so if that ever happened all hell would break loose and I would be here for it.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 29 November 2024 13:45 (three weeks ago) link
can't say i have been following it too closely, but the discourse around the assisted dying vote seems deranged. as if the uk is the first country to ever have dared to consider this. is the refusal to acknowledge at applications elsewhere in the world just good old british exceptionalism?
― devvvine, Friday, 29 November 2024 13:55 (three weeks ago) link
also some possibly tory guy talking about voting against it with the rationale that he was concerned about "protecting the most vulnerable members of society", of all the fucking gall - never been interested in helping those people to live with any sort of dignity, not surprised youre not interested in helping to die with it either
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 29 November 2024 14:01 (three weeks ago) link
hat tip to the BBC for immediately asking for comment from MP Andrew Slaughter
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 29 November 2024 14:40 (three weeks ago) link
based on vibes I was assuming this would fail, good to see basic common sense prevail
― devvvine, Friday, 29 November 2024 14:44 (three weeks ago) link
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 29 November 2024 13:45 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
doubt, tbh. McSweeney is running things now, and the reaction to Ed getting recycled will just be a collective shrug
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 29 November 2024 14:53 (three weeks ago) link
McSweeney is going to cross a line at some point and get shanked.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 29 November 2024 14:56 (three weeks ago) link
was reading some McSweeney discussion earlier, which can be summarised as he's a 3rd rate DomCum without the wacky opinions. Because he's calculated having opinions can be a vulnerability. In short just a worthless, evil prick and not even an entertaining one.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 November 2024 15:14 (three weeks ago) link
Afaict the opposition to assisted dying is split pretty strongly between two factions:- Leftist reasoning: “The government already commits social murder through underfunding healthcare, services for the poor etc so this will be more of the state opening a door it shouldn’t open. Also, it opens the way for people with disabilities/who are in care etc to feel pressured to take this route out to relieve the burden of responsibility on their families, especially given the dogshit state support for people who need it.”Religious reasoning: “It’s immoral for a doctor to give you an injection to hasten the end, God would want you to waste away in pain in a crowded hospital trolley or slowly due to government funding cuts like He intended.”
― gyac, Friday, 29 November 2024 15:15 (three weeks ago) link
Here’s the complete list of votes:https://votes.parliament.uk/divisions/downloadtext/1877?house=Commons
― gyac, Friday, 29 November 2024 15:19 (three weeks ago) link
Jez voted against for the leftist reasons upthread. If I were an MP my vote would possibly have gone against, because elder abuse is something that has happened in my own family and even one case of this under this new law is one case too many.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 29 November 2024 15:20 (three weeks ago) link
Actually fuck it, it’s just the Nos/abstentions we’re interested ininSaying NONoes==========Jack Abbott (Labour - Ipswich)Diane Abbott (Labour - Hackney North and Stoke Newington) (Proxy vote cast by Bell Ribeiro-Addy)Shockat Adam (Independent - Leicester South)Zubir Ahmed (Labour - Glasgow South West)Bayo Alaba (Labour - Southend East and Rochford)Rushanara Ali (Labour - Bethnal Green and Stepney)Tahir Ali (Labour - Birmingham Hall Green and Moseley)Rosena Allin-Khan (Labour - Tooting)Jim Allister (Traditional Unionist Voice - North Antrim)Mike Amesbury (Independent - Runcorn and Helsby) (Proxy vote cast by Chris Elmore)Gideon Amos (Liberal Democrat - Taunton and Wellington)Fleur Anderson (Labour - Putney)Stuart Anderson (Conservative - South Shropshire)Stuart Andrew (Conservative - Daventry)Edward Argar (Conservative - Melton and Syston)Scott Arthur (Labour - Edinburgh South West)Jess Asato (Labour - Lowestoft)James Asser (Labour - West Ham and Beckton)Catherine Atkinson (Labour - Derby North)Gareth Bacon (Conservative - Orpington)Kemi Badenoch (Conservative - North West Essex)Olivia Bailey (Labour - Reading West and Mid Berkshire)David Baines (Labour - St Helens North)Alex Baker (Labour - Aldershot)Richard Baker (Labour - Glenrothes and Mid Fife)Antonia Bance (Labour - Tipton and Wednesbury)Steve Barclay (Conservative - North East Cambridgeshire)Johanna Baxter (Labour - Paisley and Renfrewshire South)Apsana Begum (Independent - Poplar and Limehouse)Saqib Bhatti (Conservative - Meriden and Solihull East)Polly Billington (Labour - East Thanet)Bob Blackman (Conservative - Harrow East)Elsie Blundell (Labour - Heywood and Middleton North) (Proxy vote cast by Chris Elmore)Sarah Bool (Conservative - South Northamptonshire)Andrew Bowie (Conservative - West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine)Sureena Brackenridge (Labour - Wolverhampton North East)Karen Bradley (Conservative - Staffordshire Moorlands)Suella Braverman (Conservative - Fareham and Waterlooville)Alex Burghart (Conservative - Brentwood and Ongar)Richard Burgon (Independent - Leeds East)Dawn Butler (Labour - Brent East)Ian Byrne (Independent - Liverpool West Derby)Liam Byrne (Labour - Birmingham Hodge Hill and Solihull North)Nesil Caliskan (Labour - Barking)Juliet Campbell (Labour - Broxtowe)Gregory Campbell (Democratic Unionist Party - East Londonderry)Christopher Chope (Conservative - Christchurch)Feryal Clark (Labour - Enfield North)James Cleverly (Conservative - Braintree)Lewis Cocking (Conservative - Broxbourne)Ben Coleman (Labour - Chelsea and Fulham)Tom Collins (Labour - Worcester)Liam Conlon (Labour - Beckenham and Penge)John Cooper (Conservative - Dumfries and Galloway)Jeremy Corbyn (Independent - Islington North)Alberto Costa (Conservative - South Leicestershire)Claire Coutinho (Conservative - East Surrey)Geoffrey Cox (Conservative - Torridge and Tavistock)Neil Coyle (Labour - Bermondsey and Old Southwark)Jen Craft (Labour - Thurrock)Mary Creagh (Labour - Coventry East)Torcuil Crichton (Labour - Na h-Eileanan an Iar)Harriet Cross (Conservative - Gordon and Buchan)Ashley Dalton (Labour - West Lancashire)Ed Davey (Liberal Democrat - Kingston and Surbiton)Ann Davies (Plaid Cymru - Caerfyrddin)Gareth Davies (Conservative - Grantham and Bourne)Jonathan Davies (Labour - Mid Derbyshire)Mims Davies (Conservative - East Grinstead and Uckfield)Marsha De Cordova (Labour - Battersea)Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi (Labour - Slough)Anna Dixon (Labour - Shipley)Anneliese Dodds (Labour - Oxford East)Stephen Doughty (Labour - Cardiff South and Penarth)Rosie Duffield (Independent - Canterbury)Iain Duncan Smith (Conservative - Chingford and Woodford Green)Alex Easton (Independent - North Down)Sorcha Eastwood (Alliance - Lagan Valley)Maya Ellis (Labour - Ribble Valley)Chris Evans (Labour - Caerphilly)Nigel Farage (Reform UK - Clacton)Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat - Westmorland and Lonsdale)Patricia Ferguson (Labour - Glasgow West)Peter Fortune (Conservative - Bromley and Biggin Hill)Vicky Foxcroft (Labour - Lewisham North)Mary Kelly Foy (Labour - City of Durham)Daniel Francis (Labour - Bexleyheath and Crayford)Mark Francois (Conservative - Rayleigh and Wickford)Louie French (Conservative - Old Bexley and Sidcup)James Frith (Labour - Bury North)Richard Fuller (Conservative - North Bedfordshire)Gill Furniss (Labour - Sheffield Brightside and Hillsborough)Roger Gale (Conservative - Herne Bay and Sandwich)Barry Gardiner (Labour - Brent West)Allison Gardner (Labour - Stoke-on-Trent South)Preet Kaur Gill (Labour - Birmingham Edgbaston)John Glen (Conservative - Salisbury)Mary Glindon (Labour - Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend)Ben Goldsborough (Labour - South Norfolk)John Grady (Labour - Glasgow East)Helen Grant (Conservative - Maidstone and Malling)Andrew Griffith (Conservative - Arundel and South Downs)Nia Griffith (Labour - Llanelli)Alison Griffiths (Conservative - Bognor Regis and Littlehampton)Paulette Hamilton (Labour - Birmingham Erdington)Monica Harding (Liberal Democrat - Esher and Walton)Emma Hardy (Labour - Kingston upon Hull West and Haltemprice)Rebecca Harris (Conservative - Castle Point)Helen Hayes (Labour - Dulwich and West Norwood)John Hayes (Conservative - South Holland and The Deepings)Mark Hendrick (Labour - Preston)Meg Hillier (Labour - Hackney South and Shoreditch)Damian Hinds (Conservative - East Hampshire)Simon Hoare (Conservative - North Dorset)Richard Holden (Conservative - Basildon and Billericay)Paul Holmes (Conservative - Hamble Valley)Nigel Huddleston (Conservative - Droitwich and Evesham)Neil Hudson (Conservative - Epping Forest)Rupa Huq (Labour - Ealing Central and Acton)Patrick Hurley (Labour - Southport)Imran Hussain (Independent - Bradford East)Adnan Hussain (Independent - Blackburn)Sally Jameson (Labour - Doncaster Central)Bernard Jenkin (Conservative - Harwich and North Essex)Robert Jenrick (Conservative - Newark)Adam Jogee (Labour - Newcastle-under-Lyme)Caroline Johnson (Conservative - Sleaford and North Hykeham)Darren Jones (Labour - Bristol North West)Lillian Jones (Labour - Kilmarnock and Loudoun)Ruth Jones (Labour - Newport West and Islwyn)Lincoln Jopp (Conservative - Spelthorne)Gurinder Singh Josan (Labour - Smethwick)Sojan Joseph (Labour - Ashford)Mike Kane (Labour - Wythenshawe and Sale East)Satvir Kaur (Labour - Southampton Test)Ayoub Khan (Independent - Birmingham Perry Barr)Naushabah Khan (Labour - Gillingham and Rainham)Paul Kohler (Liberal Democrat - Wimbledon)Danny Kruger (Conservative - East Wiltshire)Uma Kumaran (Labour - Stratford and Bow)Katie Lam (Conservative - Weald of Kent)David Lammy (Labour - Tottenham)John Lamont (Conservative - Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk)Ian Lavery (Labour - Blyth and Ashington)Edward Leigh (Conservative - Gainsborough)Brian Leishman (Labour - Alloa and Grangemouth)Emma Lewell-Buck (Labour - South Shields)Julian Lewis (Conservative - New Forest East)Carla Lockhart (Democratic Unionist Party - Upper Bann)Rebecca Long Bailey (Independent - Salford)Julia Lopez (Conservative - Hornchurch and Upminster)Angus MacDonald (Liberal Democrat - Inverness, Skye and West Ross-shire)Justin Madders (Labour - Ellesmere Port and Bromborough)Shabana Mahmood (Labour - Birmingham Ladywood)Alan Mak (Conservative - Havant)Seema Malhotra (Labour - Feltham and Heston)Rachael Maskell (Labour - York Central)Jerome Mayhew (Conservative - Broadland and Fakenham)Douglas McAllister (Labour - West Dunbartonshire)Martin McCluskey (Labour - Inverclyde and Renfrewshire West)Siobhain McDonagh (Labour - Mitcham and Morden)Andy McDonald (Labour - Middlesbrough and Thornaby East)Chris McDonald (Labour - Stockton North)Blair McDougall (Labour - East Renfrewshire)Lola McEvoy (Labour - Darlington)Alex McIntyre (Labour - Gloucester)Gordon McKee (Labour - Glasgow South)Catherine McKinnell (Labour - Newcastle upon Tyne North)Jim McMahon (Labour - Oldham West, Chadderton and Royton)James McMurdock (Reform UK - South Basildon and East Thurrock)Frank McNally (Labour - Coatbridge and Bellshill)Esther McVey (Conservative - Tatton)Anneliese Midgley (Labour - Knowsley)Calum Miller (Liberal Democrat - Bicester and Woodstock)Julie Minns (Labour - Carlisle)Abtisam Mohamed (Labour - Sheffield Central)Iqbal Mohamed (Independent - Dewsbury and Batley)Gagan Mohindra (Conservative - South West Hertfordshire)Robbie Moore (Conservative - Keighley and Ilkley)Grahame Morris (Labour - Easington)Tom Morrison (Liberal Democrat - Cheadle)Joy Morrissey (Conservative - Beaconsfield)Wendy Morton (Conservative - Aldridge-Brownhills)Kieran Mullan (Conservative - Bexhill and Battle)Margaret Mullane (Labour - Dagenham and Rainham)David Mundell (Conservative - Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale)Katrina Murray (Labour - Cumbernauld and Kirkintilloch)Andrew Murrison (Conservative - South West Wiltshire)James Naish (Labour - Rushcliffe)Josh Newbury (Labour - Cannock Chase)Jesse Norman (Conservative - Hereford and South Herefordshire)Neil O'Brien (Conservative - Harborough, Oadby and Wigston)Ben Obese-Jecty (Conservative - Huntingdon)Sarah Olney (Liberal Democrat - Richmond Park)Chi Onwurah (Labour - Newcastle upon Tyne Central and West)Abena Oppong-Asare (Labour - Erith and Thamesmead)Kate Osamor (Labour - Edmonton and Winchmore Hill)Taiwo Owatemi (Labour - Coventry North West)Darren Paffey (Labour - Southampton Itchen)Andrew Pakes (Labour - Peterborough)Priti Patel (Conservative - Witham)Matthew Patrick (Labour - Wirral West)Rebecca Paul (Conservative - Reigate)Stephanie Peacock (Labour - Barnsley South)Bridget Phillipson (Labour - Houghton and Sunderland South)David Pinto-Duschinsky (Labour - Hendon)Mark Pritchard (Conservative - The Wrekin)Richard Quigley (Labour - Isle of Wight West)Yasmin Qureshi (Labour - Bolton South and Walkden)Shivani Raja (Conservative - Leicester East)Jack Rankin (Conservative - Windsor)Angela Rayner (Labour - Ashton-under-Lyne)Mike Reader (Labour - Northampton South)David Reed (Conservative - Exmouth and Exeter East)Jonathan Reynolds (Labour - Stalybridge and Hyde)Martin Rhodes (Labour - Glasgow North)Bell Ribeiro-Addy (Labour - Clapham and Brixton Hill)Marie Rimmer (Labour - St Helens South and Whiston)Joe Robertson (Conservative - Isle of Wight East)Gavin Robinson (Democratic Unionist Party - Belfast East)Matt Rodda (Labour - Reading Central)Andrew Rosindell (Conservative - Romford)Sam Rushworth (Labour - Bishop Auckland)Michelle Scrogham (Labour - Barrow and Furness)Naz Shah (Labour - Bradford West)Michael Shanks (Labour - Rutherglen)Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party - Strangford)Alec Shelbrooke (Conservative - Wetherby and Easingwold)David Simmonds (Conservative - Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner)David Smith (Labour - North Northumberland)Greg Smith (Conservative - Mid Buckinghamshire)Rebecca Smith (Conservative - South West Devon)Sarah Smith (Labour - Hyndburn)Julian Smith (Conservative - Skipton and Ripon)Ben Spencer (Conservative - Runnymede and Weybridge)Patrick Spencer (Conservative - Central Suffolk and North Ipswich)Gregory Stafford (Conservative - Farnham and Bordon)Blake Stephenson (Conservative - Mid Bedfordshire)Kenneth Stevenson (Labour - Airdrie and Shotts)Jamie Stone (Liberal Democrat - Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross)Wes Streeting (Labour - Ilford North)Alan Strickland (Labour - Newton Aycliffe and Spennymoor)Graham Stringer (Labour - Blackley and Middleton South)Graham Stuart (Conservative - Beverley and Holderness)Lauren Sullivan (Labour - Gravesham)Kirsteen Sullivan (Labour - Bathgate and Linlithgow)Zarah Sultana (Independent - Coventry South)Robin Swann (Ulster Unionist Party - South Antrim)Desmond Swayne (Conservative - New Forest West)Alison Taylor (Labour - Paisley and Renfrewshire North)Nick Thomas-Symonds (Labour - Torfaen)Bradley Thomas (Conservative - Bromsgrove)Stephen Timms (Labour - East Ham)Nick Timothy (Conservative - West Suffolk)Dan Tomlinson (Labour - Chipping Barnet)Jon Trickett (Labour - Normanton and Hemsworth)Tom Tugendhat (Conservative - Tonbridge)Laurence Turner (Labour - Birmingham Northfield)Derek Twigg (Labour - Widnes and Halewood)Liz Twist (Labour - Blaydon and Consett)Valerie Vaz (Labour - Walsall and Bloxwich)Martin Vickers (Conservative - Brigg and Immingham)Matt Vickers (Conservative - Stockton West)Imogen Walker (Labour - Hamilton and Clyde Valley)Melanie Ward (Labour - Cowdenbeath and Kirkcaldy)Paul Waugh (Labour - Rochdale)Helen Whately (Conservative - Faversham and Mid Kent)John Whittingdale (Conservative - Maldon)David Williams (Labour - Stoke-on-Trent North)Gavin Williamson (Conservative - Stone, Great Wyrley and Penkridge)Munira Wilson (Liberal Democrat - Twickenham)Sammy Wilson (Democratic Unionist Party - East Antrim)Sean Woodcock (Labour - Banbury)Jeremy Wright (Conservative - Kenilworth and Southam)Mohammad Yasin (Labour - Bedford)Saying IDK/I’M PAIRED/I DON’T TAKE THE OATH Debbie Abrahams (Labour - Oldham East and Saddleworth)Douglas Alexander (Labour - Lothian East)Órfhlaith Begley (Sinn Féin - West Tyrone)Kirsty Blackman (Scottish National Party - Aberdeen North)Chris Bryant (Labour - Rhondda and Ogmore)Dan Carden (Labour - Liverpool Walton)Al Carns (Labour - Birmingham Selly Oak)Geoffrey Clifton-Brown (Conservative - North Cotswolds)Pat Cullen (Sinn Féin - Fermanagh and South Tyrone)Judith Cummins (Deputy Speaker - Bradford South)Charlie Dewhirst (Conservative - Bridlington and The Wolds)Dave Doogan (Scottish National Party - Angus and Perthshire Glens)Josh Fenton-Glynn (Labour - Calder Valley)John Finucane (Sinn Féin - Belfast North)Stephen Flynn (Scottish National Party - Aberdeen South)Stephen Gethins (Scottish National Party - Arbroath and Broughty Ferry)Nusrat Ghani (Deputy Speaker - Sussex Weald)Andrew Gwynne (Labour - Gorton and Denton)Claire Hanna (Social Democratic & Labour Party - Belfast South and Mid Down)Carolyn Harris (Labour - Neath and Swansea East)Chris Hazzard (Sinn Féin - South Down)Lindsay Hoyle (Speaker - Chorley)Dáire Hughes (Sinn Féin - Newry and Armagh)Afzal Khan (Labour - Manchester Rusholme)Peter Lamb (Labour - Crawley)Chris Law (Scottish National Party - Dundee Central)Graham Leadbitter (Scottish National Party - Moray West, Nairn and Strathspey)Seamus Logan (Scottish National Party - Aberdeenshire North and Moray East)Cathal Mallaghan (Sinn Féin - Mid Ulster)Paul Maskey (Sinn Féin - Belfast West)Navendu Mishra (Labour - Stockport)Ian Murray (Labour - Edinburgh South)Caroline Nokes (Deputy Speaker - Romsey and Southampton North)Brendan O'Hara (Scottish National Party - Argyll, Bute and South Lochaber)Ellie Reeves (Labour - Lewisham West and East Dulwich)Cat Smith (Labour - Lancaster and Wyre)Nick Smith (Labour - Blaenau Gwent and Rhymney)Alex Sobel (Labour - Leeds Central and Headingley)Gareth Thomas (Labour - Harrow West)Jessica Toale (Labour - Bournemouth West)Pete Wishart (Scottish National Party - Perth and Kinross-shire)MIKE WOOD (Conservative) - my phone refused to copy his name from the bottom of the list
― gyac, Friday, 29 November 2024 15:23 (three weeks ago) link
I'd hypothetically vote against because most of the scumbag UK political classes could find some way of accommodating a T4 program to eradicate all the useless eaters, I have no doubt about this. I had to send a very sad final goodbye text to a family member (while he still has the energy to read messages) who has gone home to die the other day, which also weighing on my thinking on this in some way, but not enough to sway me.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 November 2024 15:27 (three weeks ago) link
Heidi Alexander’s appointment as transport secretary means the cabinet is now 100% state-educated for the first time in history - great stat from @georgeeaton— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) November 29, 2024
lol, just when I thought life couldn't get any better!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 November 2024 15:54 (three weeks ago) link
It’s really the best argument I’d have to vote against but in the end I think I would vote for. I think it would have to have adequate safeguards - no hospital in the country wants to be open to legal action otherwise. I saw a lot of tweets about DNR orders which are…At odds with how that works in my understanding; resuscitation is a brutal process on the body and can actually cause enormous damage to someone who survives it, but I’m not sure how informed some people are of what that actually means.
― gyac, Friday, 29 November 2024 15:55 (three weeks ago) link
Angela Rayner voted against I see. McSweeney must be itching to get rid of her.
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Friday, 29 November 2024 15:57 (three weeks ago) link
He can’t - deputy leader is elected.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 29 November 2024 17:12 (three weeks ago) link
Where there's a will there's a way.
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Friday, 29 November 2024 17:51 (three weeks ago) link
re: that bollox about this impressively representative Labour cabinet all coming from state schools for the first time in UK history. Kieth went to a posh as fuck selective state school that turned into a private school 2 years into his education there. Some of the worst imbeciles in Labour Party history went to state schools. Ladies and gents, I give you Wes Streeting ... and so on and on... that is starting at rock bottom though.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 November 2024 19:50 (three weeks ago) link
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Friday, 29 November 2024 17:51 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Officially it was ex-Tory chairman "Lord" Ashcroft who broke that story about her council house, but I wonder who he got it from?
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 29 November 2024 20:52 (three weeks ago) link
And already on the BBC they are discussing the potential cost savings for the NHS https://t.co/zZg40g1jgS— Ian Birrell (@ianbirrell) November 29, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 29 November 2024 20:56 (three weeks ago) link
these sick fucks murdered 150000+ disabled people during the PIP reform chaos and even peer reviewed establishment journal BMJ referred to this, without any hyperbole, as "corporate manslaughter", but of course the safeguards, yes the safeguards ... lol
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 November 2024 21:53 (three weeks ago) link
Kim Shitbeater, remember the name.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 November 2024 22:16 (three weeks ago) link
Jfc
Passed without any appropriate scrutiny, by a government about to scrap the already minimal support for unemployed disabled people
I wdve been all in favour of this kind of legislation in a world without a government dead set on exterminating the poor and superfluous
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 November 2024 09:22 (three weeks ago) link
The media is getting very excited at the thought of killing the poor and infirm
Having supported the principle of assisted dying so long as can be recalled, it has been quite a ride watching neoliberals apparently embrace it as the solution to any number of social and economic problems caused by their ideology.The principle is sound, the culture is toxic. pic.twitter.com/izY5NQRSOL— barney farmer (@barneyfarmer) March 30, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 30 November 2024 10:05 (three weeks ago) link
well at least Parris is being more upfront about the eventual aims of this policy, unlike that idiotic, blathering con-merchant, Kim Shitbeater
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 November 2024 10:26 (three weeks ago) link
Parris is genuinely one of the most repulsive figures thrown up by UK politics/media in my lifetime. He is vile.
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 November 2024 10:30 (three weeks ago) link
just imagine signing off on that headline underneath your smiling face, the sociopathy of it
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 30 November 2024 10:32 (three weeks ago) link
I'd imagine his main quibble with the nazis is that they held back the progression of eugenics and disabled extermination programs for decades by association with their name, until now it seems.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 November 2024 10:41 (three weeks ago) link
A friend darkly mused that the UK will be moving towards a one grandparent policy.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 30 November 2024 11:08 (three weeks ago) link
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― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 30 November 2024 11:10 (three weeks ago) link
Do think this bill will unravel fast if there is even a hint its killing ppl.
*Stares out of the window* maybe not..
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 November 2024 11:18 (three weeks ago) link
Interesting case to contemplate.
thinking about someone i knew who was sent home to die by the NHS with terminal cancer, then went for private treatment and their tumour was gone within months. FUND THE NHS and give people a fucking chance to live before deciding their time is up— sarah 🚩 (@ratherbeinpisa) November 29, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 November 2024 12:30 (three weeks ago) link
Because my take would be: whether assisted dying is there or not ppl are still not going to get the care they need as long as the NHS is not adequately funded..
But the case in that tweet itself sounds like misdiagnosis of that person's condition. While I accept there are delays in diagnosis and treatments, leading to premature death, I don't know if a better funded NHS leads to a different outcome in this case.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 November 2024 12:35 (three weeks ago) link
again, in principle i think the right to die is an important one and the fact that it exists in other european nations with strong safeguards and without issue shows it can be done. but those opinion pieces do i guess back up the arguments against which all seem to boil down to 'british people in particular can't be trusted with euthanasia'
― devvvine, Saturday, 30 November 2024 12:49 (three weeks ago) link
Given that there's basically no socialist bloc in the UK parliament and not likely to be one in the foreseeable future the situation is different to countries that aren't exclusively Friedmanite death cults yeah
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 November 2024 12:53 (three weeks ago) link
Dunno about there being socialist blocs in the patliament of, say, Switzerland, Luxembourg or Germany. They just havde more robust welfare states.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 30 November 2024 12:57 (three weeks ago) link
I guess I was using socialist in a very loose sense, considered "social democratic" but fuck that phrase, and yeah, point taken
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:00 (three weeks ago) link
it's just impossible for me to imagine any other path for this policy other than it morphing into an ever expanding UK extermination program. Not meant as hyperbolic rhetoric, just genuinely cannot picture it going any other way in this country.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:13 (three weeks ago) link
We're what? less than 5 years away from the do not resuscitate orders inflicted on disabled people in care during the covid crisis?
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:16 (three weeks ago) link
As far as ‘slippery slopes’ go, I’m not sure ‘bodily autonomy can not be meaningfully exercised under conditions of inequality, so we need to limit it’ is one we necessarily want to introduce.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:25 (three weeks ago) link
I believe in the right to bodily autonomy, I don't believe it can exist in a fundamentally unequal society, so i find it hard to view this bill as an extension of human rights
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:33 (three weeks ago) link
do people have an issue with the specific nature of the safeguards in the bill (are they lacking in some area?) or is the issue just that the uk is so shit it seems impossible for them not to maximally fuck it up
― ufo, Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:38 (three weeks ago) link
A lot of the UK's social institutions are infected with unempathetic authoritarianism. I think in the end it's a good thing to legalise assisted suicide, but I'm also sure it will be used to coerce people who aren't really able to give proper consent
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:43 (three weeks ago) link
in a vacuum I'm in favour, in the current environment of cruel austerity it's definitely a bad idea.
― bad love's all you'll get from me (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:47 (three weeks ago) link
ufo - its a complete lack of confidence that this can be implemented as an extension of human rights, but I've not seen any debates about the exact safeguards.
Corbyn - in his statement against - has cited concerns around robust safeguards.
In the grand scheme of things I am inclined to agree this is bad just because of the people implementing it. Coupled with any plan for a future for the care system.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:58 (three weeks ago) link
I've not seen any debates about the exact safeguards.
to me that would be the crucial detail. there would seem to be a substantial difference between a version that is strictly controlled with robust safeguards and is only allowed for those who are verified to be terminally ill, and a version that is allowed to be applied more broadly to people who are not terminally ill (which is the version that has had obvious problems occur).
― ufo, Saturday, 30 November 2024 14:31 (three weeks ago) link
Agreed.
Seeing some ridiculous things like this. But for me its coming out of a beaten left, with no road to travel but deep pessimism that the worst outcomes can be avoided.
if/when it becomes legalised, expect to see private providers advertising tiered euthanasia services to ill people and to their loved ones— anna (@lacanian_bimbo) November 29, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 November 2024 15:11 (three weeks ago) link
when it comes to personal suicide decisions, there is nothing the state can do to stop us doing this, we've all got bodily autonomy in that respect, whether the state likes it or not. Yes it becomes complicated in marriages/civil partnerships/families when someone opts to top themselves and announces thus, and it somehow becomes a dreaded testcase or whatever.
I was talking to my mum about this because she's seen 3 close siblings (including a twin), all die from cancer in as many years, and her youngest brother is about to go from it as well. A lot of death to experience at close hand and she's also a cancer survivor. Her take is: there already is assisted dying in modern healthcare, it's called morphine. She also witnessed her father die, very painfully from it, in a 50's RoI hospital and says that was the most horrible suffering she ever witnessed.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 November 2024 19:04 (three weeks ago) link
I think the point that assisted dying is kind of already there vía the doctrine of double effect, but has to be framed as ‘pain relief’, is down to an individual doctor or family member and may or may not get them arrested is true and a pretty good reason to have a proper process in place.
thankfully there's no eugenic element or questions of coercion in a decades-long legal grey area where you and/or a doctor may or may not be prosecuted for helping, or "helping", a relative to die at home— Horace Goodwill, tonicke purveyor 🇵🇸 (@eff_hey) November 30, 2024
― ShariVari, Saturday, 30 November 2024 19:28 (three weeks ago) link
when it comes to personal suicide decisions, there is nothing the state can do to stop us doing this, we've all got bodily autonomy in that respect, whether the state likes it or not.
Well, not so much if you're hospitalised.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 30 November 2024 19:29 (three weeks ago) link
yes, some shocking ableism from me there tbf and some fair points. Yet still, I will never agree with this wretched country having legalised assisted dying. For starters, I know for a fact, that after I am gone there is a strong chance my mostly non-verbal and very difficult to communicate with autistic son will be one of the first to be exterminated by the state. As soon as he develops any kind of serious health condition and goes into whatever is left of the health service or social care. I'm never going to shift on this position.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 November 2024 19:58 (three weeks ago) link
when you look back at what has happened to UK disabled people in the last 14 years. Any talk of "safeguards" is just laughable or naive at best.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 November 2024 20:06 (three weeks ago) link
they already have de facto autism extermination zones in these dreaded NHS units, where patients can be stuck for months. Often tied to beds and drugged if the challenging behaviour is rather too challenging. This is just to make up for not having a serious social care system. And people do die.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 November 2024 20:33 (three weeks ago) link
you were the victim of badly losing an election pic.twitter.com/hJU63pMgci— Ben Smoke (@bencsmoke) December 3, 2024
heh, check out this loser. It was paywalled, unfortunately. I did want learn more about disinformation.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 3 December 2024 13:31 (two weeks ago) link
LOL he was a terrible candidate, judging by the amount of effort Islington Labour Party put into his campaign I'd say even they cottoned on to that fact very early on.
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 December 2024 13:51 (two weeks ago) link
(1)Praful Nargund, the Blairite private health businessman who lost to Corbyn has set up a "Good Growth Foundation to promote... himself- this is actually from this "Foundation's" front page. It's a ridiculous vanity project . pic.twitter.com/Z6wWH1sn7P— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) December 3, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 3 December 2024 14:34 (two weeks ago) link
Its all 'disinformation' when I lose too, my sympathies go to *scrolls up to read tweet again* Praful.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 December 2024 14:48 (two weeks ago) link
just had to sit through a job centre group training session on interview skills and the guy just grifted about AI, chatgpt and grindset bullshit the whole time… i can’t believe government money is being spent like this— seosamh 🇵🇸 (@dayglowj0e) December 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 December 2024 15:55 (two weeks ago) link
I can believe govt cash is being burnt like this
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 December 2024 15:56 (two weeks ago) link
Labour parking it's tanks on the Conservatives' Reform's the BNP's lawn
WATCH: Kemi Badenoch was one of the leading lobbyists for the Tories’ open borders experiment. pic.twitter.com/IzV51ssofv— The Labour Party (@UKLabour) December 4, 2024
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 4 December 2024 20:13 (two weeks ago) link
I'm gently impressed they're tapping into deeper veins of evil than I wdve predicted
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 December 2024 20:14 (two weeks ago) link
What.
https://news.stv.tv/east-central/edinburgh-council-leader-suspended-by-labour-after-sexual-messages-to-refugees
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 December 2024 13:45 (two weeks ago) link
The clammy hands of Cammy Day.
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 December 2024 14:05 (two weeks ago) link
Starmer speaking at RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus: "Quite a bit of what goes on here can't necessarily be talked about all of the time... we can't necessarily tell the world what you're doing"RAF Akrotiri is the base from which the RAF flies missions to assist Israel in its genocide. pic.twitter.com/bUKdhaZulV— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) December 10, 2024
I look forward to the day when this video is played back to Starmer in court one day
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 10 December 2024 11:46 (one week ago) link
at least the real villians are being dealt with eh?
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/dec/11/britain-leads-the-world-in-cracking-down-on-climate-activism-study-finds
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2024 12:10 (one week ago) link
villains even
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2024 12:11 (one week ago) link
WASPI, another amazing bit of politics, another section of the electorate alienated, another chance to get pilloried by everybody who isn't in the cult, and merely to "save" an insignificant figure
pure performative hard man shite yet again
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 17:29 (five days ago) link
They are being pilloried with all their tweets about giving WASPI women their fair dues. Fuck Liz Kendall.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 17:33 (five days ago) link
it's fun to speculate about why they don't care about how they look
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 17:40 (five days ago) link
They think the public wants Cameron/Osbourne politics. In 2024. Their brains haven't moved an inch since 2015
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 18:05 (five days ago) link
the news over the weekend about the record number of deportations wasn't a good look either
― koogs, Wednesday, 18 December 2024 05:27 (four days ago) link
They are not going to stop Reform with this
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 December 2024 07:05 (four days ago) link
it took years and multiple electoral cycles of Macron trying to fuck over pensioners, constantly trying to impose unwanted austerity on the French public without a legitimate mandate, to become as nationally despised and electorally dead-in-the-water as Kieth is after 5 months.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 18 December 2024 09:34 (four days ago) link
Hilarious. Guess they can all work for water companies in five years
Water bills to rise 20% (£86) plus inflation in April and then above inflation for the next four years. @Ofwat gives private water companies in England the go-ahead to make customers pay for the investment they have failed to do for 30 years while enriching shareholders and…— Paul Lewis (@paullewismoney) December 19, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 December 2024 11:30 (three days ago) link
How long will we take this shit?
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 December 2024 14:59 (three days ago) link
good luck USA
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 December 2024 06:31 (two days ago) link
tbf they've picked a UK establishment figure who was just as close to Jeffrey Epstein as president Trump was
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 December 2024 08:54 (two days ago) link
And this week's prize for 'Most Ingenious Way to Blame Jeremy Corbyn for Anything and Everything Under and Beyond the Sun' goes to @helenadollimore. pic.twitter.com/ZRLLRfa9e1— Mark Berry (@boulezian) December 20, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 December 2024 10:21 (two days ago) link
On the same tip just seen the apparently real headline 'We've evicting our 90 year old tenant because of Labour'.
― nashwan, Friday, 20 December 2024 10:29 (two days ago) link
This is, I am assuming, Sussex prof Jonathan Dollimore’s daughter?
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 20 December 2024 10:34 (two days ago) link
The ombudsman is Jeremy Corbyn, Starmer and Rayner are Jeremy Corbyn, various Tories are Jeremy Corbyn
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 20 December 2024 10:41 (two days ago) link
Jeremy Corbyn is head of Thames Water and all other water companies in England and Wales.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 20 December 2024 10:44 (two days ago) link
when the first mad friday casualties are announced, just getting in early it was all Jeremy Corbyn's fault for running with a GE manifesto that didn't make ppl want to to top themselves
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 December 2024 12:13 (two days ago) link
I'm enjoying the new "the problem is promising to do anything" realism
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 December 2024 12:37 (two days ago) link
Starmer will be booted in about three years. There'll be enough damage from Scottish, Welsh and any local elections.
Time to get a nice cup of coffee and look up to see whether Owen Smith is still an MP.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2024 12:40 (two days ago) link
Yes and Corbyn was the problem?
After leaving Parliament, Smith became the UK government relations director for pharmaceutical company Bristol Myers Squibb.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 20 December 2024 12:49 (two days ago) link
peter mandelson appointed ambassador to the united states of america- he and trump can bond over their shared friendship with the late, lamented jeffrey epstein i guess
― Why did the Beatles shun the Space Needle? (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 20 December 2024 18:29 (two days ago) link
Looking forward to the New York Times expose of this "mysterious" British Lord and his many unsavoury connections
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 20 December 2024 18:49 (two days ago) link
if it's ok for Bill Clinton to be a paedo then I guess paedos must be good then
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 December 2024 19:01 (two days ago) link
Labour now hiring an attack and rebuttal expert, have at the fake applications:
https://labour.org.uk/about-us/work-with-us/current-vacancies/current-vacancy-head-of-attack-and-rebuttal/
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 20 December 2024 19:58 (two days ago) link
wait they've got a strategy?
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 December 2024 20:07 (two days ago) link
Only for the important things.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 20 December 2024 20:31 (two days ago) link
get full bennies for doing Labour apologia and lose your soul
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 December 2024 10:22 (yesterday) link
Honestly would have applied if the job had been advertised during the Corbyn years!
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 21 December 2024 11:45 (yesterday) link
under Cromblyns it would've been the headbuttal expert, amirite?
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 December 2024 11:46 (yesterday) link
alphie needs to go deep cover and apply imo
― imago, Saturday, 21 December 2024 11:59 (yesterday) link
if you went into the job with the idea of coming out with the most preposterous, parodic Orwell_Fan shit possible, just rinse these fuckers, and then McSweeney shakes your hand and gives you the pay rise for being so good at this game!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 December 2024 13:01 (yesterday) link
Trump adviser calls Lord Mandelson a 'moron' as he's named UK's next US ambassador
lol, when they're right they are right!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 December 2024 13:33 (yesterday) link
― imago, Saturday, 21 December 2024 bookmarkflaglink
I would be as good as that as you are at writing!
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 December 2024 14:09 (yesterday) link
https://t.co/Wvqe8IPWQI pic.twitter.com/wL8OU4HeeE— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) December 20, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 21 December 2024 14:18 (yesterday) link
amazing
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 21 December 2024 14:20 (yesterday) link
lol, love it!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 December 2024 14:40 (yesterday) link
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 December 2024 04:17 (eighteen hours ago) link