Get in here, loons
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:16 (one year ago)
Very good
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:17 (one year ago)
Oddly starting this with Mason news.
Breaking: ISLINGTON NORTH Labour shortlist Sem Moema . Praful Nargund— lee harpin (@lmharpin) May 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:18 (one year ago)
breaking: stoya cancelling travel plans
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:20 (one year ago)
From The Guardian blog quoting a tweet by a pol analyst:
Was in Westminster all day. Understand there’s 5 major reasons for @RishiSunak July 4 election gamble
1/ Key aides told PM inflation is now at its “election sweet spot” - 2.3% was today’s print - & warned it may rise again by autumn
2/ No fiscal space for NI cuts in Sept 1/
3/ Concern legal challenges will further delay/block flights to Rwanda taking off
4/ Mess in the English Channel with small boats during the summer months
5/ Nigel Farage hasn’t yet decided whether to front Reform UK, so snap poll may boost Tory prospects
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:34 (one year ago)
Praful Nargund?
― I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:35 (one year ago)
if they won't accept Comrade Mason they should offer a spot to Dunty
https://x.com/IanDunt/status/1793343773667480015
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:41 (one year ago)
truly the most perfect idiot in the whole world, a brain as smooth as his scalp
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:48 (one year ago)
Nargund is a private IVF clinic chief executive, who really cares about healthcare inequities
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:54 (one year ago)
Dunt isn't an idiot, he just plays one for money.
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 23:38 (one year ago)
Mason the early Starmer adopter, most consistent apologist/obsequious toady towards him for almost 5 years and all he gets in return is one humiliating rejection after another - which is all he deserves tbf.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 05:59 (one year ago)
I am sorry Tom D you will not be able to vote for this man
I didn't make the shortlist in @IslingtonNorth . Thanks to all those in the CLP who signed up to campaign for me, and to SERA for endorsing me. It's vital that we get out the vote the selected candidate, and keep Islington North red! ✊— Paul Mason (@paulmasonnews) May 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 07:01 (one year ago)
No-one likes him he does care.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtTdQm57_MU
― I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 07:20 (one year ago)
100 empty spots to fill, keep on keeping on Paul
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 May 2024 07:28 (one year ago)
If he wasn't such a weirdo who likes making a shit ton of noise he would've got into one of those.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:05 (one year ago)
as well as being a foolish and deeply unlikable man I don't think he's ever been forgiven by the right for his supporting Corbyn years.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:09 (one year ago)
Yeah there's no place in today's Labour for people whose politics change with the wind to support their own personal aggrandisement
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:12 (one year ago)
that's what they'll throw at Starmer, he can offer evidence that he helped finish off Corbyn by quoting the "People's Vote was a conspiracy" parts of the Eagleton book!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:17 (one year ago)
he's an embarrassment because he actually believes things, even if he has forced himself to believe them to fit in. I remember a kid like him at school.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:18 (one year ago)
No Rwanda flights till after the election. If Reform get their act together its even worse for the Tories.
It also means a very grim debate where Starmer has to promise deportations of sone kind.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:25 (one year ago)
Getting suicide-by-cop vibes from all of this, like Sunak is pleading with the election to put him out of his misery.
― I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:37 (one year ago)
the guy just wants a long summer break in california so he can pick out a house, move there ASAP, and die horribly in the record-breaking wildfires of 2028 enjoy a long and happy life
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:47 (one year ago)
maybe it was just a case of lose a suicide-election in the summertime or lose a confidence vote and resign
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:54 (one year ago)
The calculations are that Rwanda flights will never get off the ground, that inflation might go up (so no interest rate cuts), and that they cannot offer anything but tax rises bcz of the state of public finances.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:57 (one year ago)
to gazzara's point, the domiciled tax status laws are getting changed next year yeah?
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 23 May 2024 08:58 (one year ago)
the way he brought up the furlough scheme yesterday seemed desperate, it was almost like he was inferring he paid it all out of his own pocket.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:05 (one year ago)
it was like in the manner of a slimy boss giving you a tiny inconsequential pay rise and then never letting you forget about it
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:12 (one year ago)
The only time the guy was popular is when he gave lots of people money.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:24 (one year ago)
also when he gave us rona dinners
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:30 (one year ago)
How soon we forget "dishy Rishi".
― I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:38 (one year ago)
eat out to help out just a porn video name to most people now
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 23 May 2024 09:39 (one year ago)
a furlough scheme that was actually proposed and pushed for by McDonnell iirc and which sunak was originally dead set against…
― bingo dabber acid, Thursday, 23 May 2024 11:44 (one year ago)
and a furlough scheme which deliberately excluded hundreds of thousands of self-employed people, my wife being among them
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2024 11:50 (one year ago)
xpto me there's no question that if Corbyn and McDonnell hadn't been at the despatch box in early 2020 we would never have got the furlough measures we did get, flawed as they were
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 23 May 2024 12:08 (one year ago)
Quietly impressed by The Green Party response here. Has the right people crying about it.
Nothing to see here. Just @TheGreenParty leader on Radio 4 failing to condemn one of her fellow Green candidates for liking a post which said "we have to destroy Zionism". And she has the chutzpah to refer to the EHRC report into Labour's antisemitism to boot. What a state. pic.twitter.com/QrAo4fynZz— Mike Katz (@mikekatz) May 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 12:28 (one year ago)
From a locked acc:
"On Politics Weekly, Kiran explains that Sunak would rather get drenched than be compared to noted brolly loser Steve McLaren. Optics discourse is incredible"
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 12:46 (one year ago)
Union Jack gazebos are a thing:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165496541979
― Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 23 May 2024 15:36 (one year ago)
behold, the Racism Cube
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2024 15:43 (one year ago)
Don't let Starmer know or he'll be doing his press conferences from inside one.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 15:48 (one year ago)
he already is, psychically
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 May 2024 16:42 (one year ago)
dismal
Keir Starmer needs you to vote for Reform on July 4th.A vote for Reform is a vote to put Keir Starmer into power. pic.twitter.com/CGVoo5snGc— Conservatives (@Conservatives) May 23, 2024
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 May 2024 17:21 (one year ago)
in fairness his politics are more or less identical to theirs
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 May 2024 17:23 (one year ago)
And I would have got away with it if it hadn't been for you meddling Conservative Party Central Office political advisers.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 17:26 (one year ago)
A more abstract approach would be better: "vote Labour, you get Starmer as pm" with Starmer getting a Starmer mask yanked off, revealing that this confirms that he is indeed Starmer.
^^I'm giving this one for free, if my name was saatchi & saatchi I could charge millions for this shit!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 May 2024 17:49 (one year ago)
I like that, you'll go far in this game
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 23 May 2024 17:50 (one year ago)
Still an opportunity for Paul Mason
NEW Conservative HQ have emailed asking for candidates in almost 100 seats When candidates ask when the deadline is, they have been told it’s 48 hours, according to 2 I’ve spoken to Some Tory associations are pretty livid at having been left in such an unprepared situation pic.twitter.com/baBLr6TiMK— Paul McNamara (@PGMcNamara) May 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:26 (one year ago)
lol, only a matter of time before serial carpetbagger Mason declares that the only way to advance the class struggle is by running as a Tory candidate.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 May 2024 00:40 (one year ago)
Islington North too, he could run against Corbyn after all!
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 06:31 (one year ago)
It’s official!
https://www.islingtontribune.co.uk/article/jeremy-corbyn-why-i-am-standing-as-an-independent-candidate-at-the-general-election
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 07:14 (one year ago)
Excited for the Lab right focusing a proportionate amount of time and attention on this.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 07:59 (one year ago)
... and the Tories. Stoked for this particular madness.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 08:02 (one year ago)
Lol
One #bbcqt audience member: "I've come to this program really wanting to listen to what the Labour Party is going to say. I used to vote for the Labour Party, and you've not answered any question at all"Bridget Phillipson smiles. pic.twitter.com/W6rwKMLvuq— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) May 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 08:43 (one year ago)
6 more weeks of this to come.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 08:52 (one year ago)
https://x.com/dril/status/473265809079693312
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 24 May 2024 08:52 (one year ago)
a dril for all seasons
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 24 May 2024 08:53 (one year ago)
Bridget Phillipson smiles and a baby dies
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 24 May 2024 09:06 (one year ago)
she looks like she's actively getting off on this
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 24 May 2024 09:45 (one year ago)
hitler horn
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 May 2024 09:50 (one year ago)
your mission should you choose to accept it is to go on question time and say nothing of substance
― conrad, Friday, 24 May 2024 10:55 (one year ago)
All these Labour women with Gina McKee in Our Friends in the North haircuts, can barely tell them apart.
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 10:57 (one year ago)
This is fascinating, to me
not an original observation but it’s fascinating how many Starmer leadership pledges have been unceremoniously dumped pic.twitter.com/Zv7PBwLyJL— Jim Pickard 🐋 (@PickardJE) May 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 10:58 (one year ago)
I also find it fascinating that he had an affair with Baroness Jenny Chapman
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 May 2024 11:01 (one year ago)
All these Labour women with Gina McKee in Our Friends in the North haircuts, can barely tell them apart.― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 11:57 (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 11:57 (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
They've all copped Gina McKee's haircut from Our Friends and Gina McKee's attitude from Brass Eye
"I'm going in now, like a bad boy"
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 24 May 2024 11:06 (one year ago)
This another McKee haircut?
The graffiti says "Stop art-washing"It is in response to Seret International Film Festival, which is funded by the Israeli government.The Israeli state is committing a genocide as we speak.Get a grip lol https://t.co/8j8Q6aVhQu pic.twitter.com/bikHJH3nHV— jewdⒶs // ייִדהודה (@jewdas) May 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 13:08 (one year ago)
She's my local Labour candidate. I will enjoy not voting for her.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 24 May 2024 13:57 (one year ago)
Here is the briefcase who is going up against JC
Congratulations @prafulnargund - you will be a fantastic Labour MP for Islington North, and I can’t wait to join you on the doorstep to help get you elected! https://t.co/2T7eaiZpOw— Sem Moema 🌹🐝💪🏾 (@Semakaleng) May 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 14:01 (one year ago)
good luck chump
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 May 2024 14:15 (one year ago)
even before you read about his private healthcare background, he's just so visibly an absolute cunt!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 May 2024 14:17 (one year ago)
yeah he definitely gets voted out early on the apprentice
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 24 May 2024 14:55 (one year ago)
I've got to admit I was somewhat worried they might pick the other candidate, who seemed quite pleasant and sympathetic, but how beautifully in character for them to settle for this utter bellend.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:03 (one year ago)
https://www.prafulnargund.co.uk/
Private SiteThis site is currently private. If you’re the owner or contributor, log in.
― h.p. lovecraft's backing singers (Matt #2), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:22 (one year ago)
The other one had to dip out because she was a political ally of the Hackney P**do.
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:26 (one year ago)
So many Labour supporters online seem to be apoplectic about Corbyn's decision to stand as an indie and his resulting expulsion from the LP. Why?You'd think they'd be happy he's out of the party and they now have the chance to win the seat for Starmer's Labour? What gives?
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 24 May 2024 15:35 (one year ago)
only Islington North betting I've seen quoted was from William Kedjanyi who had made Corbyn the 8/13 fav, but was from before the stuffed suit challenger was unveiled.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:37 (one year ago)
I was looking on the bet365 site, it has a ton of consituencies there but no sign of Islington North yet
― anvil, Friday, 24 May 2024 15:39 (one year ago)
xxp
like he has waited until the day the Labour candidate is announced, not badmouthed the party. There is nothing they can criticise him for here.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:40 (one year ago)
I expect Will’s odds will go even more favourably for JC. The stuffed suit looks like someone who appears on You’re Fired in week 3 of an Apprentice season.
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:49 (one year ago)
they’ve never let ‘there’s nothing they can criticise him for here’ stop them criticising him before tbf
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:58 (one year ago)
Lol just came across this interview with members of D:Ream
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/jun/05/how-we-made-d-ream-things-can-only-get-better-tony-blair-election-alistair-campbell-
"The song’s become associated with great times and positivity. This year, for the first time in my life, I’m voting Labour."
Published in...2017
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 16:26 (one year ago)
to be fair it's not really possible to vote Labour when you live in Northern Ireland.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 24 May 2024 16:35 (one year ago)
Standing down: Michael Gove!
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:09 (one year ago)
Fantastic! Get tae fuck!!!
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:11 (one year ago)
OMG this guy... the teeth, the hair, the eyes...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsdpQT9bb5M
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:27 (one year ago)
He looks like Garry Shandling.
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:37 (one year ago)
Gove should check with Baddiel whether he fancies making another series of A Stab in the Dark
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:38 (one year ago)
I genuinely dislike making fun of names, but the fact that this guy's name is similar to pratfall is apposite, for the role he's being given
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 24 May 2024 18:44 (one year ago)
Apparently we are also saying adieu to Dread Some Anal.
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:57 (one year ago)
Has this cunt got the easiest path to PM ever? This is like when some extremely mid NBA team winds up facing injury depleted squads and lucks into a championship. Corbyn had fuckin Brexit around his neck the whole time
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 May 2024 20:13 (one year ago)
So Kieth is the Minnesota Timberwolves now?
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 20:50 (one year ago)
The path looks stupidly easy, it's mainly for comedy's sake I hope he fails, but also because he's an evil cunt who represents evil, either way
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 May 2024 21:01 (one year ago)
He's an evil reperasentative!
― Mark G, Friday, 24 May 2024 22:31 (one year ago)
All set up for him to win 400 seats, be completely useless and doom y’all to another 12 years of Tories right?
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 24 May 2024 23:46 (one year ago)
that could conceivably happen with him getting 2 million less votes than Corbyn got in "worst ever result for the Labour Party since 1935". It won't happen though because of Gaza, Galloway, the Greens, other Indies after encouraging results in the Locals, I think the SNP will do better than the polling suggests and of course even the Tories are never going to get wiped out as badly as the polling suggests, especially against an insipid cunt like Kieth.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 May 2024 00:29 (one year ago)
its likely to be a low turnout election, probably the lowest post 1945 (and therefore presumably ever), as support for all of the parties has evaporated (and the new ukip/brexit party doesn't look like taking any advantage of that at all)
If Labour win the Tories will self-immolate though, one part will say they weren't right wing enough and the other part will say they were too right wing. Can't tell which side will win out and it could take a long time to pan out, think the first group will eventually win out though. UK voters have a relatively unusual incumbency bias, and in the aggregate tend to vote for 'the government', whoever that is. Might change going forward but if Labour win this one they'll be odds on for the next one too and potentially the one after that
There's also structural stuff about how each party torches part of its future vote that doesnt come into play until years later, with voter distribution changing with tomorrow important seats not necessarily being todays important seats
― anvil, Saturday, 25 May 2024 01:10 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/25/election-pm-change-politics-keir-starmer-rishi-sunak
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 10:07 (one year ago)
frankly amazed The Guardian still lets Chakrabortty call out what they essentially stand for
― imago, Saturday, 25 May 2024 10:18 (one year ago)
Boris Johnson launches an attack on Keir Starmer in the Daily Mail"He takes responsibility for everything that took place on his watch - except of course for the failure to prosecute the paedophile, necrophiliac and BBC superstar Jimmy Saville"
"He takes responsibility for everything that took place on his watch - except of course for the failure to prosecute the paedophile, necrophiliac and BBC superstar Jimmy Saville"
Boris otm. You vote Starmer - you get legalised necrophillia.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 May 2024 10:58 (one year ago)
Sounds good to me
― h.p. lovecraft's backing singers (Matt #2), Saturday, 25 May 2024 10:59 (one year ago)
Boris speaking truth to power
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 11:11 (one year ago)
The Mail's front page is somewhat amusing for having the Johnson 'back to the 70s (you know a decade we were in power for half of) with Fidel Keirstro' rehash directly above the splash of a desperate vow by Reeves that they won't ever deviate from the What Would Tories Do? little blue book.
― nashwan, Saturday, 25 May 2024 11:12 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/25/thames-water-vomiting-bug-cryptosporidium?
The incoming collpase of Thames Water is another reasson for an early general.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 11:42 (one year ago)
I would love to be certain that Corbyn will win but there's a lot of soppy middle class liberals in this area, all of whom are going to turn out to vote and will experience no problems trying to vote.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/25/loved-islington-voters-40-year-connection-to-jeremy-corbyn
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 May 2024 12:54 (one year ago)
yeah tbh I think it's 50/50 at best
― nashwan, Saturday, 25 May 2024 12:57 (one year ago)
i don't think he's a lock either and fun as it will be if he wins there are bigger PLP fish to fry
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 May 2024 12:58 (one year ago)
Doesn't matter if JC loses he'll - - and I don't say this to slight him - - just keep doing campaigns till he is no longer able.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 14:12 (one year ago)
Yeah but the briefcase banter will be intolerable
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 25 May 2024 14:40 (one year ago)
Today on Twitter: many briefcases complaining about the_far_left calling them briefcases.
― steely flan (suzy), Saturday, 25 May 2024 14:56 (one year ago)
If I see one more "Starmer is a horny-handed son of toil" tweet I'm gonna run amok I swear
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 May 2024 15:32 (one year ago)
Guardian reporter doing the rounds in Islington North just happens to bump into Boaby G (I had no idea he lived in the same constituency as me!)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/25/defeat-would-be-a-big-blow-labour-faces-double-trouble-of-corbyn-and-abbott-in-islington-and-hackney
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 May 2024 18:10 (one year ago)
... no guarantee that he does, of course.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 May 2024 18:13 (one year ago)
I think he’s up in Highbury?
― steely flan (suzy), Saturday, 25 May 2024 18:15 (one year ago)
Further up Highbury Park, the Primal Scream singer Bobby Gillespie is on his way to celebrate his wife’s birthday. “I’ll definitely vote for Corbyn,” he says.He described the former Labour leader as a “great British patriot who wants the best for everybody”. Getting into his stride in a long disquisition on the state of Britain, he says he’s disillusioned with parliamentary politics, quotes Noam Chomsky and denounces the “worldwide network of financial capitalism” before finishing off with a two-fingered salute and: “Fuck Labour.”Right on Boaby :)
― nashwan, Saturday, 25 May 2024 18:26 (one year ago)
Getting into his stride in a long disquisition on the state of Britain
You can sense said journo edging away, panic in their eyes
― h.p. lovecraft's backing singers (Matt #2), Saturday, 25 May 2024 18:31 (one year ago)
"But by the same token, defeat would mean an ignominious end to a parliamentary career that has spanned five decades and will almost certainly be the final nail in the coffin for Corbynism."
Thames Water will need a government rescue by the end of the year. The things thrown up by the Corbyn leadership will not go away.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 19:26 (one year ago)
Corbynism, that's totally a real thing
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 May 2024 19:38 (one year ago)
Lol I know.
Meanwhile if this narrows more as time goes on I am really going to enjoy these ppl squirm.
🚨 NEW: The first Opinium poll of the general election campaign sees its highest Tory share since March 🔴 LAB: 41% (-2) 🔵 CON: 27% (+2) 🟠 LDM: 10% (+1) 🟣 RFM: 10% (=)🟢 GRN: 7% (=)🟡 SNP 2% (-1) 23-24 MayChanges w/ 15-17 May— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) May 25, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 19:44 (one year ago)
The Blue Bounce continuesBreakingThe prime minister unveils a plan that would see 18-year-olds given the choice of a full-time military placement for 12 months or a scheme to volunteer for one weekend a month for a year
― nashwan, Saturday, 25 May 2024 21:29 (one year ago)
"Sixteen- and 17-year-olds could be given the right to vote if Labour wins the general election, Keir Starmer has confirmed."
But why oh why believe him etc.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 21:50 (one year ago)
rishi's desperation is just incredible. he called the election just a couple of days ago and he's already stooping to nonsense like that? can't wait to see what he's got up his sleeve next
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Saturday, 25 May 2024 22:00 (one year ago)
more concerned that he'll give Labour ideas tbh
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 May 2024 22:05 (one year ago)
Lab's response was to go on about cost. That's their default for everything
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 May 2024 22:08 (one year ago)
Hope Sunak just starts announcing debates like Trump while Keef cowers. GB News will probably empty chair him.The Conservatives are pushing for six TV debates, one each week of the campaign, but Labour officials will only commit to two - run by the BBC and ITV.
― nashwan, Saturday, 25 May 2024 22:35 (one year ago)
tbf on the empty chair - it's probably more capable of pretending to be a human being and giving substantive answers to questions than Starmer is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 May 2024 22:58 (one year ago)
xyzzzz__ at 11:08 25 May 24Lab's response was to go on about cost. That's their default for everything
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 26 May 2024 08:10 (one year ago)
I can guarantee you that the 18 yr old who volunteers one weekend a month will turn up hungover, uninterested and useless, be put in a cupboard to do some basic filing, and nobody will get anything out of the experience - especially the 18 yr olds who won't be able to get a part-time job because their availability for retail and hospitality will be ruined. Not that it needs repeating, but this is nonsense that's been dreamed up by someone who has no clue how the world operates and looks in 2024.
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 26 May 2024 08:12 (one year ago)
Nailed on that his girls wouldn’t be doing this.
― steely flan (suzy), Sunday, 26 May 2024 08:19 (one year ago)
Tories have finally run out of minorities to shit on so they're shitting on the young.
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Sunday, 26 May 2024 08:28 (one year ago)
The funding question was a good one, seeing as the answer seems to be "by cracking down on Tax evasion"
Yeah, right. That's gonna happen!
― Mark G, Sunday, 26 May 2024 08:39 (one year ago)
'There will be no return to austerity under a Labour government,' says Rachel ReevesGuessing nobody challenged the glaringly bullshit premise implied by the phrase “return to austerity” hereAlso rest assured she will have also said “difficult decisions” 500 times
― subpost master (wins), Sunday, 26 May 2024 10:48 (one year ago)
you know I am absolutely no fan of labour, but mentioning the massive expense of national service is a pretty easy and effective response rather than getting bogged down in the other reasons it's a stupid idea― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 26 May 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Costs can be weighed one way or another. If this was a coherent plan, with an ideology behind it that was communicated properly, 'cost' wouldn't be a response.
As the boat crossings increase due to climate emegencies cost will quickly become an inadequate response to the Rwanda plan.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 May 2024 11:00 (one year ago)
Tha lawyers love him.
Everyone I've spoken to about @Keir_Starmer whilst he was at the Bar has a story to tell like this. It's really striking: there's a genuine, consistent and strong admiration for him. Let's hope he finds and exhibits this quality as Prime Minister. https://t.co/9wMYmEhwku— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) May 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 May 2024 11:35 (one year ago)
he's just so friendly to dogs as well, i hear
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 26 May 2024 11:38 (one year ago)
I'm sure Jimmy Savile felt the same.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 May 2024 11:41 (one year ago)
A doozy of an article.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/26/it-is-foolish-and-self-indulgent-for-the-anti-starmer-left-to-split-the-labour-vote
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 May 2024 12:08 (one year ago)
this "Starmer is a good person" shit would be more convincing if it didn't suddenly appear in the context of rallying support to elect somebody who looks like a venal self-serving little cunt every time he speaks in public
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 May 2024 12:11 (one year ago)
important good faith thoughts from Sonia "I'm voting for anybody but Corbyn" Sodha
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 May 2024 12:12 (one year ago)
At least a dozen other Graun regulars could and probably will front p much that exact same article over the next five weeks.
Meanwhile theres's gall and then there's this:
“It will be an outright outrage if Murdoch supports Starmer,” said Mackenzie, the Sun’s former editor. “He was the man who brought prosecutions against journalists. They were cleared, but they had their lives destroyed or disrupted. It would be a low blow.”
― nashwan, Sunday, 26 May 2024 12:41 (one year ago)
Hm, what would be the funniest way for Kelvin Mackenzie to have his life destroyed?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 26 May 2024 12:46 (one year ago)
meanwhile, in scotland
Ouch. After trying repeatedly to dodge giving an answer, Scottish Labour leader Anas Sarwar admits on Sunday Show that his family's wholesale business (in which he no longer has shares) does not pay all its workers the real living wage despite his party's plan to improve it— Tom Gordon (@HTScotPol) May 26, 2024
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 26 May 2024 13:59 (one year ago)
His whole family are dodgy as fuck, if you ask me.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 May 2024 14:05 (one year ago)
Labour Friends of Sweated Labour
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 May 2024 14:11 (one year ago)
Rachel Reeves in The Daily Mail:
https://archive.ph/OPqc1#selection-1423.0-1427.76
But I know from talking to businesses over the past three years that stability and investment are not enough to kick-start our economy. We need reform, too. That means a serious plan to get the long-term sick – who have been let down by ballooning hospital waiting lists, failing mental health support, an inflexible welfare state, and inadequate employment support – back to work.If you can work, you should work – that's why we're called the Labour Party.
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 26 May 2024 18:38 (one year ago)
Far from the worst thing, but for me the most insultingly lazy erase-the-past pish
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 26 May 2024 18:40 (one year ago)
https://i.scdn.co/image/ab67616d0000b27333723c1fa5d2d862c5d90870
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 26 May 2024 19:35 (one year ago)
Forced Labour Party
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 26 May 2024 19:50 (one year ago)
businesses have been telling you they're crying out to employ the seriously ill and disabled have they Rachel? that boosts the economy does it? it's not just murderous performative cruelty? you're gonna fix it by investing in healthcare and listening to what disabled people tell you about what they need? yeah it's gonna be great
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 May 2024 20:27 (one year ago)
get the idle rich to put an honest shift in first perhaps
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 26 May 2024 20:30 (one year ago)
LOL
‘Int milk brilliant?’Rishi Sunak here looking like he’s in a scene from the Fast ShowGood lord it just gets worse and worse pic.twitter.com/AYAgv7GIDA— Stuzi 🐝🐝 (@stuzi_pants) May 26, 2024
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Monday, 27 May 2024 11:26 (one year ago)
"sleepy Kier" is really desperate, pitiful stuff, so of course all the sensibles are signal boosting it to death
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 May 2024 13:37 (one year ago)
Who needs bots?
i wonder what the text from labour hq said x pic.twitter.com/kVsAjSeC0H— Ben Smoke (@bencsmoke) May 27, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 May 2024 13:38 (one year ago)
Labour’s manifesto launchpic.twitter.com/qTfviN1A9Y— troovus (@troovus) May 27, 2024
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 May 2024 13:52 (one year ago)
lol
― subpost master (wins), Monday, 27 May 2024 15:25 (one year ago)
Imagibe getting back to hung parliament
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/27/labour-polling-lead-conservatives-overstated-tory-election-expert
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 May 2024 17:44 (one year ago)
the After Laughter (Comes Tears) election, but it will be worth it just for the laughter.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 27 May 2024 17:52 (one year ago)
Overstated polling lead not reflected in the bookies odds (yet?)
But I noticed UKIP are shorter odds than Reform. I didn't know UKIP still existed, or what it is Reform offer that UKIP didn't
― anvil, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 00:06 (one year ago)
Eton educated MP (and son of Prue Leith) Danny Kruger argues in favour of national service on the basis that it challenges the "prevailing culture" of 'I'll do what I want, and Govt can do the work of looking after me.'
The National Service idea divides opinion - naturally. It's a bold proposal that challenges the prevailing culture of 'I'll do what I want, and Govt can do the work of looking after me.' There are good liberal reasons to object to anything compulsory... 1/2— Danny Kruger (@danny__kruger) May 28, 2024
seems like some of these guys are resigned to the fact they're going to lose and now just openly expressing their contempt for the electorate?
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 08:20 (one year ago)
Its a virtue signal
― anvil, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 08:27 (one year ago)
it's ingenious of them to find a way of taking the fact that everyone thinks they've done a crap job of running the country and reframe it as evidence of the entitlement and fecklessness of the public - oh, so you think the government should do everything for you?
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 08:29 (one year ago)
how many days before he announces he's bringing back hanging?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 08:50 (one year ago)
For everyone between the ages of 18 and 24.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 09:19 (one year ago)
That and the "quadruple lock" on unfreezing tax (which they froze in the first place) so that pensioners will never pay tax is just a sign that one of the neurons has latched onto "old people vote and should love us" as the plan.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 09:23 (one year ago)
Also: lolhttps://uk.news.yahoo.com/tory-mps-blamed-poor-start-123657177.html
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 09:26 (one year ago)
the brexit hardman is on holiday in Greece for a GE campaign, that is slightly amusing.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 09:38 (one year ago)
xxp i wonder if they will shift strategy when this doesn't work
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 09:57 (one year ago)
State pension has risen to just a bit above the UK tax threshold so they have to do something about pensioners getting a surprise tax demand for a grand or so.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 10:09 (one year ago)
Ed Davey fell in the water on purpose in a desperate attempt to remind the electorate he exists and you can't convince me otherwise
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 11:23 (one year ago)
NEW: I can reveal Labour’s investigation into suspended MP Diane Abbott’s racism comments finished 5 months ago A source says she was given a ‘formal warning’ in Dec ‘23Ms Abbott was required to do an online ‘anti semitism course’ - which she did in FebYet source says she…— Victoria Derbyshire (@vicderbyshire) May 28, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 12:03 (one year ago)
Insert Cilla gif here
Hateful party for hateful voters
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 12:09 (one year ago)
This vibe as a voter offering
I met Cilla Black once - she sat at a table I'd reserved and refused to move. Her spiteful arrogance was astounding. pic.twitter.com/AY86JjznfH— BeCo (@BeCo74) August 2, 2015
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 12:11 (one year ago)
Labour Friends of People Who Sit in the Train Seat You've Paid For
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 12:11 (one year ago)
so Starmer has been hiding behind an investigation that finished 5 months ago when dodging questions about Abbott. Pathetic little lying fucker.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:09 (one year ago)
xxp That's Rachel Reeves' look at you when you ask why she won't tax wealth to feed kids
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:21 (one year ago)
you could see the visceral hatred towards Abbott in the texts between party insiders and the consensus probably is they want her out but it's just ever so slightly nagl to drive out the only senior black female MP. Nothing to do with having a shred of human decency, it's just makes for awkward PR.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:22 (one year ago)
What's the betting the media will "suddenly" discover the scale of anti-black/anti-muslim racism in the Labour Party 6 months into the new parliament?
Speaking about taxing wealth, did we see that Starmer's answer to why he won't tax wealth is "we can't afford that" ?
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:30 (one year ago)
xp especially when you theoretically want the votes of black people
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:35 (one year ago)
Islington North odds with bet365
Labour 1.72Corbyn 2.00Lib Dem 34.00Conservative 41.00Reform 251.00Green 251.00
― anvil, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:40 (one year ago)
Starsports have Corbyn fav but similarly close
― anvil, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:41 (one year ago)
Pretty sure they assume black people will to vote for them anyway so they don't give a fuck.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 13:42 (one year ago)
Yeah he needs dragging for this wtf
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 22:18 (one year ago)
Jesus Christ
EXCL: A white Labour candidate who publicly apologised after saying he had the “worst tan possible for a black man” at a Black History Month event privately dismissed criticism as being “part of a smear campaign” against him.https://t.co/3Kyzm4v4Ah— Joe Pike (@joepike) May 28, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 22:19 (one year ago)
Brit pol getting better.
Very emotional moving sign off from @IainDale who has just announced he is stepping back from LBC to try to get selected as a Tory MP.— Ayesha Hazarika (@ayeshahazarika) May 28, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 22:20 (one year ago)
“part of a smear campaign”
okay yes i did leave the car windows open last night during the rain and i'm sorry, but frankly the criticism about it feels like a smear campaign on your part, honey
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 22:23 (one year ago)
Sweet.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/may/29/junior-doctors-strike-england-june
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 12:24 (one year ago)
for FUCK’S sake https://x.com/tomorrowsmps/status/1795832705265135975
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 17:35 (one year ago)
🔴 POPLAR & LIMEHOUSE: It seems that sitting MP Apsana Begum may be subject to a renewed deselection attempt. https://t.co/PrzbQfa7Er— @Tomorrow'sMPs (@tomorrowsmps) May 29, 2024
Looks like her ex-husband is at it again. Why has a domestic abuser been allowed to carry on as a Labour member?
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 17:40 (one year ago)
This 'left-wing' landlord has also been barred from standing
D:Ream - Things Can Only Get Better (1993) (Official Video) https://t.co/GX4196SX1f via @YouTube— Lloyd Russell-Moyle MP🌹🏳️🌈 (@lloyd_rm) May 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 17:47 (one year ago)
how cruel and completely unnecessary 🤭
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 17:50 (one year ago)
I'm sure some of you won't click on this because of where it is (and absolutely fair enough) but I keep thinking of this series of articles from conhome on how an unexpected election and overly-centralised campaign shafted the Tories in the 2017 elections. Given the source, they don't credit Corbyn at all, but it's a scene with some echoes - more on Labour than the Tories, this time?
“The whole candidate process was dreadful,” admits a senior Parliamentarian, and draws an unflattering comparison with the enthusiasm of the Corbynite grassroots: “It’s hard to avoid the conclusion that creating an actual mass movement in which people have some control has a potential benefit.” Ruefully, he adds that the modern Conservative Party is “almost a structure set up to discourage participation. It’s not something you can love anymore – it’s something you fear because it’s a totalitarian state.”
https://conservativehome.com/2017/09/05/our-cchq-election-audit-the-rusty-machine-part-one-why-the-operation-that-succeeded-in-2015-failed-in-2017/ https://conservativehome.com/2017/09/06/our-cchq-election-audit-the-rusty-machine-part-two-how-and-why-the-ground-campaign-failed/https://conservativehome.com/2017/09/07/our-cchq-election-audit-the-rusty-machine-part-three-what-can-be-done-to-fix-it/
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 30 May 2024 08:47 (one year ago)
The Scottish National party has deleted an election video on TikTok after it emerged it featured a sexually-explicit song by American rap artist Big Boss Vette, which also uses the n-word.The track, Pretty Girls Walk, carries an explicit lyrics warning on streaming platforms and starts with the verse: “No matter what the fuck these hoes talkin’ ‘bout, just know you a bad bitch, every motherfucking time that you wake up, and you look in that motherfucking mirror”
The track, Pretty Girls Walk, carries an explicit lyrics warning on streaming platforms and starts with the verse: “No matter what the fuck these hoes talkin’ ‘bout, just know you a bad bitch, every motherfucking time that you wake up, and you look in that motherfucking mirror”
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 May 2024 13:06 (one year ago)
I'm sure that's exactly what John Swinney does every morning.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 May 2024 13:07 (one year ago)
BREAKING: Iain Dale tells LBC he has now abandoned his bid to become the Conservative candidate for Tunbridge Wells, after this clip of him telling listeners he 'never liked the place’ and ‘would happily live somewhere else’ was revealed https://t.co/vr3FnfeuX2— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) May 31, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 31 May 2024 10:01 (one year ago)
lol 'all talk'
― nashwan, Friday, 31 May 2024 10:02 (one year ago)
Excellent.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 31 May 2024 10:10 (one year ago)
surely there are many residents of Tunbridge Wells who have never liked the place and would happily live somewhere else, they deserve a chance to vote for a candidate who shares their views
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Friday, 31 May 2024 10:39 (one year ago)
It is a selfless piece of service, if you think about it, to represent a place you've never liked in the hope of making it better.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 31 May 2024 10:46 (one year ago)
or worse!
― mark s, Friday, 31 May 2024 10:47 (one year ago)
ppl should feel some kind of civic pride in what a loveless dreary shithole yr town or city is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 31 May 2024 10:55 (one year ago)
Kent towns shittier than Tunbridge Wells, pt. 1:
AshfordMaidstoneTonbridgeDover
― oh the crime nowadays back in my day you could leave your door unlocke (Matt #2), Friday, 31 May 2024 10:57 (one year ago)
move over John Redwood pretending to sing the Welsh national anthem and Peter Lilley adapting the Mikado, there's a new kid in town
Please God, make it stop... 😩"When it comes to football, the country shouldn’t just be worried about the Danes, Slovenians and the Serbs. They should be worried about Captain Flip-flop and his band of socialists. I think victory is in sight and we’ll bring it home." #newsnight pic.twitter.com/wwXW7i2zS2— paulusthewoodgnome 🇺🇦💙 (@woodgnomology) May 31, 2024
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Saturday, 1 June 2024 10:49 (one year ago)
Obviously not the parts of the country which will be cheering on the Danes, Slovenians and Serbs.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Saturday, 1 June 2024 11:10 (one year ago)
I presume D:Ream will be giving back all those royalties they’ve earned over the years thanks to the Labour Party? Or would that be too far?? https://t.co/CHCNG7I2EP— Rhys Goode (@rhys_goode) June 2, 2024
i can't stress enough how this one gesture from D:Ream has made up for years of having to hear their terrible record
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 June 2024 11:57 (one year ago)
piss can only get boileder
― subpost master (wins), Sunday, 2 June 2024 12:00 (one year ago)
Time to spice things up
Breaking:Nigel Farage is the new leader of Reform UK as Richard Tice formally stands asideFarage says it is 'the dullest most boring general election campaign we have ever seen in our lives' being fought by two near identikit leaders— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) June 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 June 2024 15:23 (one year ago)
"dullest most boring" bleakest most disheartening general election campaign would be more accurate
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 June 2024 15:32 (one year ago)
Stopped himself short of saying Richard Tice is the dullest, most boring party leader he'd ever seen.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2024 15:36 (one year ago)
Standing in Clacton where Douglas Carswell won for UKIP in 2015 - Douglas Carswell who now lives in Mississippi!
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2024 15:43 (one year ago)
Prominent anti Brexit campaigner and former Lib Dem donor Charlie Mullins seeks to be a candidate for Reform UK (2024) pic.twitter.com/J1b9QchJiN— insane moments in british politics (@PoliticsMoments) June 3, 2024
Charlie is back(in the country possibly - no confirmation yet if he's in his luxury Spanish Villa or the £10m riverside penthouse in London). But as a plumber he knows where there is shit, there is brass!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 June 2024 19:27 (one year ago)
Well there's a vacancy in Black Lace if he fails.
― nashwan, Monday, 3 June 2024 21:24 (one year ago)
Brilliant day canvassing in Trinity ward, Sutton Coldfield. A lot of young professionals are fed up with Tories nationally and Brum Labour for going bankrupt. And now just the one in #PlanetSuttonColdfield pub of the day The Four Oaks. pic.twitter.com/wObdqwAgdC— John Sweeney (@johnsweeneyroar) June 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 June 2024 21:34 (one year ago)
oh ffs i didn't realise that was happening
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2024 21:38 (one year ago)
Can you imagine how bad that hat smells
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Monday, 3 June 2024 21:45 (one year ago)
Fuck washing John Sweeney's hat
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2024 21:47 (one year ago)
barely standing John Sweeney
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 June 2024 22:01 (one year ago)
Nobody can stand him.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2024 22:02 (one year ago)
I wonder how likely the following scenario is: Farage wins in Clacton, Tories decimated to under 100 MPs, Farage switches sides and becomes Tory leader
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 00:23 (one year ago)
it's plausible enough but it's also plausible that the conservative brand ends up so tainted that it's not really in his interests, and it's not like the press won't be happy to treat him as the opposition leader in that case
― ufo, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 01:01 (one year ago)
I assume he has a good shot of winning in Clacton (though is his record a bit patchy when not running specifically on Brexit?), and as a strategy It seems plausible at least.
Is it in his interests or not? I'm not sure. The move has interesting timing, to say the least. If it did happen, he would swoop in as saviour, at least from his perspective. And the more damaged the conservative party and brand is, the more leeway that would give him to shape the party the way he wanted. Likelihood of something like this is difficult to measure, but I could see a potential path to it
― anvil, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 03:37 (one year ago)
*begins typing bet3... into browser*
― imago, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 06:36 (one year ago)
lol sorry
― imago, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 06:37 (one year ago)
Starmer to promise to 'close the door' on Putin
https://i0.wp.com/skwawkbox.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/mandelson-putin.png?w=1370&ssl=1
he needs to 'close the door' on Mandelson first, lol
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 07:41 (one year ago)
I reckon deselecting Putin was the right call actually
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 09:42 (one year ago)
I agree, Farage absolutely will return as the saviour of the conservatives. There's no way the "conservative brand" will become too too tainted, it's the most successful political party in history, the English have a co-dependent relationship with it, it's the vampire which never dies and cannot be killed. It's just waiting for the right person/movement to resurrect it.
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 11:01 (one year ago)
only just reading about all the kids in kosovo named tonibler after tony blair
― nxd, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 11:29 (one year ago)
another word for 'bootlicker' eh
― imago, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 11:31 (one year ago)
Mandelson is the Jeffrey Epstein of British politics and no I won't elaborate further
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 11:39 (one year ago)
Can't see the Tories ever accepting Farage, I'm not convinced he'll win Clacton anyway. They'll either carry on down the far right route with Badenoch or Jenrick or some other ghoul or they'll completely shift to the centre.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 12:10 (one year ago)
Apsana Begum confirmed as Labour candidate
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 12:16 (one year ago)
xp famously he has never won a Parliamentary seat he has stood for, he's 0-7 on that score. Begs the question of why our friends in the media keep platforming him...
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 12:21 (one year ago)
Beats talking to Keir Starmer.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 12:32 (one year ago)
There would have to be a paradigm- shifting massacre for the Tories to accept Farage as a leader, I agree, but let's see ...
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 12:49 (one year ago)
My older relatives are Tory or Tory-leaning and Farage is an uncrossable line for them. They'd vote for Mordaunt, though.
I am curious, though - what is Farage useful for, exactly, as a politician? He is bad disliked as an orator and personality, he has no consistent base, he has no reputation as a power broker or thinker or organiser, he can get "coverage" but it's usually largely negative - what do others who value the things he represents find him valuable for?
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:00 (one year ago)
My main thought on Farage is "let's not give any oxygen to this cunt" but having seen a couple of media appearances over the last day I've noticed that they are actually questioning him on his hypocrisy this time and in return he's coming across like a furious foaming-at-the-mouth loon.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:02 (one year ago)
I mean metaphorical oxygen but literal oxygen works too
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:03 (one year ago)
thinking of these two clips
Farage has a meltdown on BBC News and then refused to go on NewsnightBen Thompson, "Call it a pressure group, call it a party, you were a candidate to be an MP on a ballot paper"Nigel Farage, "How many times have you stood?"BT, "I'm just asking"NF, "What do you know about… pic.twitter.com/HDa5KdCmEx— Farrukh (@implausibleblog) June 3, 2024
“I can take you to streets in Oldham where no one speaks English.”“Or they could speak two languages? Don't your own children speak another language?”Exchange with Nigel Farage on #r4today, Mr Farage asked how he knows people he hears speaking another language have no English👇🏾 pic.twitter.com/zL62EOTECb— Darshna Soni (@darshnasoni) June 4, 2024
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:07 (one year ago)
He's winning rn in terms of headlines. Guess now we have to see his face every day for weeks. Can imagine him winning (and yeah ending up Tory/eventual PM have thought so for a while) but can't imagine him spending much time in the Commons or indeed in Clacton tho. Pretty funny in that it just seems like he was triggered into running from his own supporters questioning his loyalty or whatever (don't think it was that really but nor was it based on Trump being found guilty as that was on the cards for some time and he didn't have to mention Trump at all when explaining why he wasn't intending to run).
― nashwan, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:10 (one year ago)
The more racist the talking points the livelier this election will be, with bigger ratings across TV and radio.
Everybosy wins.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:13 (one year ago)
feel like they didn't challenge him on his obvious bullshit like this so much before― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:07
Well yeah, he's no longer a useful foil/brake against a left wing labour party
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:15 (one year ago)
Theresa May did 'they don't even speak our language' in 2016 get some new material
― nashwan, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:16 (one year ago)
Farage is looking kind of ratty and rundown to me these days and I think he's trying to introduce a more belligerent MAGA style, less chummy fellow at the golf club, approach and that's not going to go down well.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:24 (one year ago)
I mean there are prominent members of the Tory Party who are arguably more right wing than he is so he is having to outflank them.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:26 (one year ago)
My older relatives are Tory or Tory-leaning and Farage is an uncrossable line for them. They'd vote for Mordaunt, though. I am curious, though - what is Farage useful for, exactly, as a politician? He is bad disliked as an orator and personality, he has no consistent base, he has no reputation as a power broker or thinker or organiser, he can get "coverage" but it's usually largely negative - what do others who value the things he represents find him valuable for?
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 13:52 (one year ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPO9v12W8AA5hJH?format=jpg&name=medium
lool, he has been milkshaked in Clacton!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:07 (one year ago)
National Service required for her...as UK PM
― nashwan, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:11 (one year ago)
the really zoomed out one where you can see her do it and then walk off also has a lot of charm
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:16 (one year ago)
Farage-milkshaking hun is the drunk “Tommy Robinson? He’s a cunt x” of this election
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:22 (one year ago)
looking forward to some very furrowed brows telling me this was an unhelpful thing to do
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:24 (one year ago)
we regret to inform you that milkshake Nigel is racist
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:25 (one year ago)
oh so u support political violence do u
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:26 (one year ago)
(well, yeah)
ah this is glorious. perfect aim, right in the face, the follow up with the cup and the nonchalant walk off - tens across the board https://t.co/ExOfE2U4Ao— she/hererzade (@tubbsOreally) June 4, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:27 (one year ago)
AND THE CUP
🙏
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:30 (one year ago)
iconic photo
*Mwah* https://t.co/uGsWbanlYy pic.twitter.com/6B5hrvEWpd— Michael Walsh (@thatbloodyMikey) June 4, 2024
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:33 (one year ago)
if we're replaying the greatest hits of farage's previous public humiliations in this election cycle i hope there's a small plane ride on his travel itinerary soon
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:33 (one year ago)
There's going to be some fun cognitive dissonance in the debate tonight.
"I think it's unacceptable for MPs' safety to be threatened in this way, and we will have to crack down on this aggressive behavior""No, I think banning arms sales to Israel is the wrong decision""I am prepared, at any moment and without much thought, to begin the process of ending all life on earth"
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:52 (one year ago)
you mean uk media?
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:59 (one year ago)
it's tonight on bbc and itv, isn't it? not that'll be watching
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:04 (one year ago)
Perfect, very entertaining
Just Nigel Farage getting a beer chucked at him pic.twitter.com/txnioRDyrD— RobGoff (@robertagoffin) June 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:09 (one year ago)
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:qjzrpzlcmir3bkss4b5nh6ox/bafkreie2gfweuyfamtpmnvt6m3gnnvww62yshlkvr2xskcyr745aaeyfcu@jpeg
👑
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:10 (one year ago)
Makes me proud to be British.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:10 (one year ago)
ah milkshaking. a British tradition I can feel proud of
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:19 (one year ago)
Don't think there's a party leader in this election you wouldn't be happy to see receive the same treatment
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:22 (one year ago)
get Luke Akehurst next
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:27 (one year ago)
lactose the intolerant
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:27 (one year ago)
That lady who shouts "That wasn't from any of us" or whatever. Like a kid at school who's worried the teacher's going to tell her off
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:37 (one year ago)
such poise!
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:41 (one year ago)
Disgraceful assault on Nigel Farage today. Completely unacceptable and wrong. No one should face intimidation or assault in an election campaign. Thank you to the police for responding.— Yvette Cooper (@YvetteCooperMP) June 4, 2024
I believe the only appropriate response to this shit would be to milkshake Yvette Cooper next
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 16:59 (one year ago)
https://i.imgur.com/4KABQ1R.png
― mark s, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 17:08 (one year ago)
LOL @ Starmer making a dog's dinner of the leader's debate.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 21:38 (one year ago)
it's almost like there can't be a fucking winner when both of the dire cunts are racing to the bottom, but apparently Sunak edged it by 1% in a YouGov flash poll
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 22:15 (one year ago)
(though is his record a bit patchy when not running specifically on Brexit?)
As Neil S pointed out, his record is the opposite of patchy!
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 22:28 (one year ago)
Also it's not a beer unless they serve beers in Clacton with cup lids and straws, 100% a beautiful moment though.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 07:46 (one year ago)
Banana milkshake. Perfect.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 08:13 (one year ago)
There’s a meme going around where the arc of the flying shake matches a Fibonacci curve; this is a thing of beauty.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 08:16 (one year ago)
it even reached this thread!
― imago, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 08:28 (one year ago)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 June 2024
Worth noting how no one here even bothered with the debate.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 08:59 (one year ago)
i read a bit of reaction afterwards and apparently they were both extremely dull, who knew eh
― imago, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 09:01 (one year ago)
i wouldn't watch a debate if there were well-intentioned human beings with policies intended to effect genuine change on it, so why the hell would anybody subject themselves to Rishi/Kieth unless they've got a serious masochism kink/more worm than brain?
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 09:26 (one year ago)
I saw some of the aftermath with a drunk Johnny Mercer having a pretend argument with Wes Streeting and then the two stumbling off like bosom buddies.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 09:30 (one year ago)
I dunno, did 20% of schools in the old Eastern Bloc also double up as emergency food banks to deal with mass child hunger or does this only happen in superior economic and political systems such as the UK's? pic.twitter.com/BcRHpeMjMi— Mr Demos of Pnyx (@gem_ste) June 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 09:47 (one year ago)
The Is He Real Or Is He A Parody legend that is Mike Tapp named as one of Labour's "rising stars". God help us all.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/05/rising-stars-who-could-play-a-big-part-in-a-labour-government
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 10:13 (one year ago)
I tried watching the debate but had to turn it off after about 10 minutes; it was so unbearable that I literally couldn’t look at the screen.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 10:36 (one year ago)
I put it on accidentally and had much the same reaction.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 10:44 (one year ago)
Good for her.
The Daily Heil accidentally making her even more iconic. pic.twitter.com/dnGC21EFI1— Jack D 🏳️🌈 (@JackDunc1) June 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 12:36 (one year ago)
i thought Tories loved young entrepreneurs
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 12:46 (one year ago)
well she's hardly going to be a Starmer supporter, he'd have her prosecuted for common assault faster than you can say Jimmy Sav....
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 13:09 (one year ago)
Solemnly, regrettably providing +33 pics out of pure public-spirited service.
Vote of no confidence in Welsh First Minister Vaughan Gething today,; turns out he's a massively corrupt liar. Shocking for a Starmer acolyte.
This reddit post helpfully illuminates all the issues:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Labour/comments/1d84e2r/welsh_first_minister_vaughan_gething_premiership/
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 15:13 (one year ago)
IDS should win the seat again.
It’s official @faizashaheen will run as an Independent Parliamentary Candidate for Chingford and Woodford Green.We send solidarity from Newham.Please support her campaign and let’s help her to deliver a victory for the many! ✊🏽 pic.twitter.com/5p7MwIcoX8— Newham Independents 💛 (@NewhamIndParty) June 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 15:53 (one year ago)
Good work Labour Party!
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 15:56 (one year ago)
Labour outrage about Tories lying about Labour policy is some real "Windmills of Your Mind" shit
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 17:19 (one year ago)
Hope Jenrick loses seat and everything elsehttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jun/05/siyabonga-twala-stranded-in-turkey-can-return-to-uk-home-office-u-turn
― nashwan, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 18:04 (one year ago)
Keir Starmer claimed tonight that GB Energy would generate energy, just days after confirming it wouldn't generate any energy because it was just an investment vehicle. This is getting ridiculous. We don't appear to have any reporters willing to call this out. What is going on?… pic.twitter.com/UbMaRDWj4K— MSM Monitor (@msm_monitor) June 4, 2024
it's outrageous that the Tory leader lied about a Labour policy, that's f-cking Kieth's job
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 18:06 (one year ago)
Since announcing his campaign ten days ago, Lib Dem candidate for Sutton Coldfield John Sweeney—who earns £3,000 a month on Patreon for his on-the-ground coverage of the Ukrainian War from his gorgeous Victorian townhouse—has posted eight photos of him having Just The One® Drink. pic.twitter.com/DgNCplfJL7— Eyup Lovely (@eyuplovely) June 6, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 June 2024 16:45 (one year ago)
Booze shaming is bad yo
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 June 2024 16:48 (one year ago)
To me its amazing how the guy is finding so much joy from this election.
Guess you would if you made 3k from 'work'.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 June 2024 16:53 (one year ago)
if stays in the pub getting shitfaced rather than doorstep campaigning, then he is improving the lives of many people in Sutton Coldfield
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:00 (one year ago)
On the Local Housing Allowance.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/05/14-years-tory-housing-benefit-homelessness-poor-cities
"The option is there for Labour to take a different route. Simply reverting to the pre-2010 position and linking LHA to the 50th percentile again would ease a lot of pain overnight. But this means committing to spend more on benefits – something the party seems currently completely unwilling to do.
Longer term, a package of rent control for the private sector and a rapid increase of social housing, via acquisition and new building, would break the cycle of rising rents and rising benefits. Whether Labour has the political will and the guts to do this remains to be seen."
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:07 (one year ago)
Eighty years ago today, the sun rose on a new day of hope after the dark storm of the Second World War.
Kieth's D-Day post, his attempt at jingoistic solemnity is so fucking hamfisted and clueless. ppl are replying it happened during WW2, the daft cunt thinks that was the end of the war, lol.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:19 (one year ago)
Yes, it's OK, nobody else died at Arnhem, Remagen, Battle of the Bulge etc etc.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:26 (one year ago)
a new day of hope in Hiroshima
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:28 (one year ago)
I want to see Sir Antony Beevor saying "omg where do they get these cunts from these days?"
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:30 (one year ago)
wow he is even shit at being the stereotype patriot he aspires to portray himself as, wtf is he good at?
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:33 (one year ago)
Bullying women.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:44 (one year ago)
broke: labour leaders dancing a jig at the cenotaphwoke: labour leaders blithely displaying total ignorance of historical events
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 June 2024 18:14 (one year ago)
I was watching an old vid clip of Denis Healey singing The Ballad of the D-Day Dodgers and talking shit about his part in the Italian campaign. He was a cunt as well, but at least he wasn't as dumb as Kieth is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 18:17 (one year ago)
the longer i live the more Healey looks like a towering paragon of integrity and socialism even tho you're right calz
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 June 2024 18:43 (one year ago)
woke: the old Labour Right
broke: a bunch of corrupt, cretinous racist morons
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 18:48 (one year ago)
was listening to old interviews with the likes of Hattersley and Healey t'other day and was thinking these lads would get deselected by Kieth in no time for occasionally being funny and almost seeming like human beings in their more forthright moments
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 18:56 (one year ago)
it's one of the most telling things about what a cesspit the Party is now when you think about the values that even those old Labour Right lags took for granted
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 June 2024 18:58 (one year ago)
I always say I'm not left wing it's just that the Labour Party became right wing.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 June 2024 19:42 (one year ago)
Hearing that (some not all) political journalists are choosing not to pursue stories on Labour because they are expecting a massive majority, and so don’t want to burn bridges with prospective contacts in government. Hanging onto the coattails of power rather than challenging it!— Matt Zarb-Cousin (@mattzarb) June 6, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 June 2024 22:06 (one year ago)
Utter, mendacious, barely-disguised contempt for their own voters
The Green Party would introduce a wealth tax of 1% on all assets over £10m increasing to 2% on assets above £1bnShabana Mahmood says that ordinary working people would end up paying part of it. How many ordinary working people does Mahmood know with assets of over £10 million? pic.twitter.com/yfjXpocfJw— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) June 6, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 6 June 2024 22:23 (one year ago)
what a load of old pish this D day story is
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 7 June 2024 12:06 (one year ago)
it's optics, and as far as the media is concerned, optics is everything, especially now they are willing to use them to get the boot in.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 June 2024 12:14 (one year ago)
RISHI DISRESPECTED ARE BRAVE BOYS, 'ANGING'S TOO GOOD FOR THE BLEEDIN' ROTTER
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 June 2024 12:21 (one year ago)
(ps please remember to vote for sir kier starmer on july 4 to ensure a more competent right-wing government can be installed to further the interests of deeply-entrenched power in the uk kthxbye)
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 June 2024 12:22 (one year ago)
"Not fit to be Prime Minister" roar the Lib Dems!
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 7 June 2024 12:36 (one year ago)
I'm losing the will to live here.
Convenient dead D-Day cat given the Frank Hester revelations (not that there's anything very revelatory about them)
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:51 (one year ago)
I'm still waiting for some distinguished historian to attack Kieth for his botched and thick as fuck D-Day post, but I guess you need to be a genuine hater to gaf about how shit his posting is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:01 (one year ago)
the video of Ed Davey doing his morning care routine with his autistic son seems to me - I hate to fucking say it - genuinely relatable and not done in a tacky exploitative way. But then I think: you fucking cunt, you know first hand how vital social care is and how much worse it has got after 14 years of austerity. And you were part of a regime that cut or completely stripped away benefits and disabled services for people like your son. I have this duality of having a modicum of respect for him because he seems like a good parent/carer who has a lot on. And also, fuck him - I hope he dies a very painful death, the fucking Tory piece of shit!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:02 (one year ago)
anyone else hear a really high-pitched noise, almost like a whistling or something, when anna soubry is speaking here
Anna Soubry says Rishi Sunak doesn't understand what D-Day means to British people pic.twitter.com/b7ITQtMpB1— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) June 7, 2024
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:36 (one year ago)
“At the time of writing, and following Sunak’s self-inflicted D-Day gaffe, every single digital ad on the [Tories’] main pages has been switched off. Currently, the campaign has no active ads on Facebook, Instagram, Google or YouTube.” https://t.co/kkm4YyKJaY— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) June 7, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 June 2024 14:54 (one year ago)
Ha ha, Keith Vaz, Claudia Webbe and the official Labour candidate all standing in Leicester East. Tory gain?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/07/disgraced-keith-vaz-kicked-out-of-labour-as-he-stands-for-one-leicester-party
― Alba, Friday, 7 June 2024 14:56 (one year ago)
This seems effective:
Latest #LabourParty #election advert has arrived. It's fast work, a quick-grab message, and potentially very high impact. pic.twitter.com/mJdGDB2Cah— Dr. Max (@DrMaxPolitics) June 7, 2024
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 7 June 2024 15:30 (one year ago)
Jolly japes
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 7 June 2024 15:31 (one year ago)
if Kieth would have been pm and stuck around to bloviate with Macron and Biden, a load of the usual tedious ahistorical bollox about defending democracy and some hackneyed Churchill misquote or whatever. Then that would make him a better person? Weird fucking country with a completely warped and delusional mindset.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPeTmveX0AAKVdB?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 June 2024 15:52 (one year ago)
Kiwi diaspora having their say there. Respect to the honest respondents on 21% at the foot of the chart.
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Friday, 7 June 2024 15:55 (one year ago)
IT'S THE BELGIANS WOT WON IT
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:00 (one year ago)
Amazing that we can have 24/7 WWII programmes on TV and yet
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:01 (one year ago)
they need to teach operation bagration in UK schools (or to future pm simpletons like kieth), to help dispel false historical narratives. It was uncle joseph who smashed army group center and finished off the nazis as a serious fighting force ffs.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:05 (one year ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbdIRfXSaBA
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:08 (one year ago)
who's watching this debate and how are the lib dems already the most viscerally repellant out of all these oily freaks?
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 7 June 2024 18:48 (one year ago)
Turned on and two seconds of Stephen Flynn's Dundonian accent was enough for me.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 7 June 2024 18:55 (one year ago)
Ok phew, nigel's already reclaimed his crown without even missing a beat
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 7 June 2024 19:06 (one year ago)
Just had to pop out for 5 minutes there for some milk, long enough to notice seven Vote Corybn posters in shop windows. Of course, it's not this part of the constituency he needs to worry about.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 June 2024 13:02 (one year ago)
there was another all-white Islington pic posted by the anti-Corbyn Labour candidate yesterday (including Neil Kinnock,lol). If not for the London style townhouses in the background you could be forgiven for mistaking him as the Labour candidate for [whatever hellish N Yorkshire gammon zone shithole] rather than in ethnically diverse London.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 9 June 2024 14:49 (one year ago)
Love how things like this won't consider that Lab could fuck up badly once in power.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/08/from-humiliation-to-annihilation-could-this-election-mean-the-end-of-the-tory-party-as-we-know-it
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2024 14:58 (one year ago)
there's a Youtube advert for Scottish Labour I keep getting and they're definitely doing something with the lighting on Anas Sarwar
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 9 June 2024 15:30 (one year ago)
Their rescue is a glimmer of hope in the darkness.
this is the expression Lammy used to describe a massacre committed by IDF soldiers who arrived on the murder scene in a humanitarian aid vehicle. I've always detested the prick and since he became foreign sec in waiting he's got so much exponentially worse. What a fucking evil cunt.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 9 June 2024 17:46 (one year ago)
"He’s no keener on dreamy leftwing utopianism than empty rightwing boosterism, taking issue with both the campaign for a universal basic income (UBI) and the anti-capitalist writer David Graeber’s popular “bullshit jobs” thesis, which argued that too many jobs in the modern economy are pointless, paper-shuffling make-work designed to keep the masses distracted. (UBI is too expensive if it’s generous enough to ensure nobody now on benefits loses out, he argues, but positively damaging otherwise; meanwhile, research shows a cheering number of Britons find their work meaningful or socially useful.)"
https://www.theguardian.com/books/article/2024/jun/10/great-britain-how-we-get-our-future-back-by-torsten-bell-review-a-roadmap-to-the-new-normal
This is the kind of wanker who is going to hopefully be stopped from making policy when the world burns.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 June 2024 09:06 (one year ago)
“radical incrementalism”
there is no such a thing, but I guess it works as bullshit political jargon for people who believe in nothing.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 10 June 2024 09:58 (one year ago)
These people are so going to be overtaken by events.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 June 2024 10:05 (one year ago)
funny how many people free from the grind of employment are such big fans of the healing power of employment
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 June 2024 10:51 (one year ago)
..our low productivity, chronic wage stagnation and American-style high inequality (but sadly without the higher growth of the US)
just need Reeves to press the magic economic growth button that didn't work for Truss, then the high inequality wont be so sad for the Graun writer.
An ex-Miliband adviser being feted as a big-brain economic whizz. Even more worse than it used to be.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 10 June 2024 13:23 (one year ago)
these lads all seem to think they just need to find the sweet spot where capitalism works for everybody when the evidence of the last 40 years of growing inequality and accelerating environmental disaster is right in front of their eyes
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 June 2024 13:39 (one year ago)
only if you choose to look! it's much more fun and more lucrative to squint right past it
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 June 2024 13:42 (one year ago)
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 June 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Who are we to argue with a random poll. Work makes us cheerful!
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 June 2024 13:57 (one year ago)
Probably not a coincidence that this guy was advising labour when their vote really bottomed out, in 2010 and 2015
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 10 June 2024 14:18 (one year ago)
a total loser from the brains trust that commissioned the Ed Stone has got some things to say about Graeber, has he?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 10 June 2024 14:40 (one year ago)
^ uses more words, but somehow pithier
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 10 June 2024 14:58 (one year ago)
luke the nuke’s promo video is some laugh
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Monday, 10 June 2024 15:20 (one year ago)
lol it's getting brutally ratio-ed
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 10 June 2024 17:44 (one year ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPt9OApXUAAW53n?format=jpg&name=medium
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 10 June 2024 17:51 (one year ago)
people clowning on him for looking like absolute refried dog diarrhoea but this might actually be the most put-together i’ve ever seen him look tbh
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 June 2024 18:07 (one year ago)
Maybe it was best not to attempt any bits where Luke is trying to converse with the humans he is appealing to for votes.
I just saw a vid of Starmer strangely guffawing at a young girl who was talking about living with heating poverty (having to wrap in multiple blankets at home) and his dismissive one-way conversation reply was that his 15 yr old son still loves his onesie. He's far weirder (and more sociopathic) than the Maybot of '17 when she awkwardly faced the public.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 10 June 2024 18:22 (one year ago)
very telling that these absolute sociopaths are out there revealing their awfulness in public and the media response is just a huge shrug
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 June 2024 18:47 (one year ago)
How shameless is this worm.
BREAKING: Keir Starmer accuses Tories of "Corbyn-style manifesto"The Conservative Party is to launch its manifesto at 11.30amLatest: https://t.co/aj0cjpNqAp📺 Sky 501, Virgin 602, Freeview 233 and YouTube pic.twitter.com/Gezma89zz4— Sky News (@SkyNews) June 11, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 11:09 (one year ago)
spineless dog dirt of a man
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 11:26 (one year ago)
Laying himself open to people pointing out how both 2017 and 2019 were fully costed. Let's hope some brave, heroic reporter/anchor steps up on this
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 11:34 (one year ago)
he should be nervous about mentioning Corbyn, because that opens him up to: well you were in his shadow cabinet and campaigned for him. But it doesn't matter, he's got it in easy mode and the outcome of the GE has already been decided.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 11:52 (one year ago)
What an utterly despicable cunt.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 11:53 (one year ago)
Looks like Les off Vic Reeves having a leek waved at himhttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/11/nigel-farage-barnsley-objects-thrown-man-arrested
― Alba, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 12:30 (one year ago)
Looks like Les from Vic Reeves having a leek waved at himhttps://i.imgur.com/f8G0ge8.jpeghttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/11/nigel-farage-barnsley-objects-thrown-man-arrested
― Alba, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 12:32 (one year ago)
apols for guardian but good riddance:
Robin Harper | The first ever Green parliamentarian in the UK, Harper has crossed the floor (sideways?) to join the Labour party, saying they are the only ones with a serious prospect of fighting climate change. The move will be much less contentious than Conservative defections, some of which have dismayed Labour members. It’s unlikely to cause too much distress in the Scottish Green party, which Harper left last year, disagreeing with its support for trans rights.
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 17:37 (one year ago)
Labour welcoming transphobes, surely not?
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 18:21 (one year ago)
Great news from EC. He really has changed. https://t.co/r3OLyEu9Vv— Tariq Ali (@TariqAli_News) June 11, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 07:18 (one year ago)
Ooft, neither of those racist fossils is someone you want in your corner
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 07:30 (one year ago)
Sometimes I really feel the British state and that class of people could be so easily burnt to the ground.
‘There’ll be all sorts of things that I would have wanted as a kid that I couldn’t have - famously Sky TV'@RishiSunak reveals the sacrifices his parents were forced to make when he was youngWatch full interview on the Tonight programme on ITV at 7pmhttps://t.co/WN3WqEFirH pic.twitter.com/6XNLBJdMM8— ITV News (@itvnews) June 11, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 08:08 (one year ago)
They were forced to send him to one of the most expensive schools in the UK.
― ILX: a violent left-wing mob who hate our country (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 08:13 (one year ago)
3 more weeks of this shit
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 08:20 (one year ago)
Sky dishes would be considered infra dig in the circles his parents wanted him to inhabit.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 08:34 (one year ago)
Just think he couldn't watch Sky TV in any of the six bedrooms in the family home, oh the humanity!
― ILX: a violent left-wing mob who hate our country (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 08:39 (one year ago)
still more honest than when Kieth does his phoney maloney routine about his dad walking the factory floor, without mentioning that he owned the business. lol, the proper way to do it would be to say: we had a vintage b+w tv and no tv license, my mum would shut the curtains, tell us to hush and ignore the door when the tv license people came knocking.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 10:45 (one year ago)
Remembering the early ‘90s time a friend and I saw a TV Licensing van in the street on our way to work, loudly mocked it, only to be rounded on by a young woman who shouted: “vat’s ma bawfriend, how dare you, I hope you get done!”
My friend looked her up and down, then said “you’d never get fucked otherwise, I guess?”
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 11:02 (one year ago)
Well of course he didn't have SkyTV growing up, he was twenty seven when it was launched. https://t.co/yAlAaLXOV4— Dr Charlotte Lydia Riley (@lottelydia) June 12, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 11:28 (one year ago)
if Corbyn had done this, the UK media would be going through his entire childhood history with a magnifying glass and calling him out as a lying fucker. I can't even remember Blair having it this easy.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 11:55 (one year ago)
Sky in the 90s was cheaper than Netflix now. And when there was a shit video on MTV we got on our bikes and we bricked Keir's windows.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 12:21 (one year ago)
Sir Window Smasher
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 12:50 (one year ago)
The deepfakes are getting good fellas.
'My dad was a toolmaker'*Audience laughs* pic.twitter.com/1EME2W2C0u— j (@jrc1921) June 12, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 19:13 (one year ago)
Kieth was actually not floundering in his appearance on this Sky bullshit - he's not really answering any of the more pertinent questions either. But yeah, the only enjoyable part was the spontaneous jeering audience laughter during his "my dad was a toolmaker" bit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 19:20 (one year ago)
great photo of rishi making an impression at the g7 summit in today's grauniad
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/48fd7e8a87ad9a4b1ff646ffb54ce7377210fba2/0_82_4238_2543/master/4238.jpg?width=1900&dpr=2&s=none
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 13 June 2024 09:50 (one year ago)
The stuff that isn't happening.
Manifesto of @TheGreenParty in summary: #RealHopeRealChange https://t.co/vBH2hnRfj3 pic.twitter.com/XTaZgPVttz— Natalie Bennett (@natalieben) June 12, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 June 2024 11:00 (one year ago)
Well I guess all the melts that said we shouldn't judge Labour until we'd seen the manifesto will be ok with us judging them now
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 June 2024 11:47 (one year ago)
The hard questions are being asked:
Q: [From the Guardian’s Pippa Crerar] Sunak has struggled to lead a government of integrity. Will you do any better?
Yes, says Starmer. He is determined to do better. He will get on with changing ethical codes from day one.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 June 2024 11:55 (one year ago)
most normal deputy leader of a uk political party
Deputy Green Party Leader admits to performing hypnotherapy to 'enlarge' women's breasts in the past https://t.co/BSf4vyqU0z— LBC (@LBC) June 12, 2024
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 13 June 2024 12:21 (one year ago)
Is it in the manifesto though?
― ILX: a violent left-wing mob who hate our country (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 June 2024 12:23 (one year ago)
It's so obvious that the media is soft pedalling on Starmer and Labour because they know they'll get a whopping majority and thus be secure enough to not to have to rely on any of the usual chummy "you scratch my back" garbage. A powerful government can make things tough for the media.
― ILX: a violent left-wing mob who hate our country (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 June 2024 12:27 (one year ago)
I like think Starmer was channelling Jurassic 5 here. "Let's take it back to the concrete streets,Original beats with real live MCs,Playground tactics,No rabbit in a hat tricks ..." https://t.co/L1Eh2qcKi7— Rafael Behr (@rafaelbehr) June 13, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 June 2024 13:13 (one year ago)
🔴 Oh dear, it seems some of these retiring Labour MPs who had peerages dangled in front of them to encourage give up their seats, didn't know that in its manifesto Labour was about to impose a new age limit for members of the Lords, of 80 at the end of each Parliament.— @Tomorrow'sMPs (@tomorrowsmps) June 13, 2024
oh dear, a major blow for some people's dreams of joining the job 4 life superannuated corpse set. Can't believe Kieth has lied to people again.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 13 June 2024 13:49 (one year ago)
Love this when they will have to nationalize the water industry and put up flood defences.
The shift from Labour under Corbyn to Labour under Starmer in a single chart👇The bars here show you how much each manifesto - 2017 and 2019 under Corbyn, 2024 under Starmer - pledged in new spending, taxes & investment.It’s night and day… pic.twitter.com/KHuk4EAgPD— Ed Conway (@EdConwaySky) June 13, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 June 2024 13:57 (one year ago)
basically austerity
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 13 June 2024 14:36 (one year ago)
Got to wait till you turn 80 to get in the House of Lords eh
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 13 June 2024 14:43 (one year ago)
i need Rafa Behr's address so i can send him the bill for the costly surgery i need to uncurl my toes
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 June 2024 16:14 (one year ago)
Carla Denyer has become the Corbyn proxy in these useless fucking debates and I guess at least she makes Labour look as fucking awful as they are.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 13 June 2024 20:35 (one year ago)
Farage, emboldened by Reform being ahead of the tories in the latest yougov poll, says we need to build a new home every two minutes to deal with this mass influx of unchecked migration.
"I was on free school meals" "my father was a toolmaker" the Angela and Kieth handbook of irrelevant speak when difficult questions are asked
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 13 June 2024 20:44 (one year ago)
we need to build a new home every two minutes
he has this talent of mixing in incontrovertible truths with his toxic hatred, it's like a special gift
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 13 June 2024 21:10 (one year ago)
a new home every 2 minutes and things like the 2 billion trees from the last election always sounds faintly ridiculous until you remember there are 60 million people in the country capable of working in parallel.
no trees arms race this election that I've seen, i kind of miss it.
― koogs, Friday, 14 June 2024 03:27 (one year ago)
Seen the video and I'm amazed this meeting wasn't a cold handshake, at most, for the cameras.
Doesn't Sunak know she's a racist?
He’s an uptight investment banker; she’s a kooky free spirit who wants to send migrants to camps in Albania This summer, Paramount Pictures proudly presents: pic.twitter.com/iOmQTWozem— Peter Wolf (@peterawolf) June 13, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 June 2024 16:59 (one year ago)
Reform party pol broadcast. Weird. Basically one freeze frame with a slogan for 5 mins.
― Mark G, Friday, 14 June 2024 17:16 (one year ago)
That was on one of the TVs in the pub and for a couple of minutes I thought tonight's ABBA tribute act had the weirdest stage show ever
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2024 18:09 (one year ago)
Omigod this Abba band are better than the entire history of the Labour Party I take everything back
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2024 20:26 (one year ago)
Baby Reindeer’s “real-life Martha” reportedly sent Sir Keir Starmer nearly 300 abusive emails while living in his constituency.Fiona Harvey allegedly sent the Labour leader abusive messages over an eight-month period which described him as a “stupid little boy” and used a disabled slur to insult his wife, according to The Sun.
Fiona Harvey allegedly sent the Labour leader abusive messages over an eight-month period which described him as a “stupid little boy” and used a disabled slur to insult his wife, according to The Sun.
Til that Kieth achieved accidental pop culture relevance by receiving 276 abusive e-mails from Fiona Harvey
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 07:45 (one year ago)
Reform and Tories neck and neck. Farage extracts maximum concessions from Tories, Reform stand down to allow them a clear run, Kieth fails to win an overall majority, hilarity ensues.
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 08:26 (one year ago)
It’s too late to be removed from the ballot paper now I believe?
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 09:29 (one year ago)
As good as the banter would be.
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 10:17 (one year ago)
the polling in Clacton is tight, but it seems the best way of keeping Farage out would be a tactical vote for the Tory candidate!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 10:28 (one year ago)
Looking forward to tonight’s climate hustings in Islington North.We owe it to those we seek to represent to defend our views. That is what democracy is all about.I am not afraid of discussion. Why is the Labour candidate? pic.twitter.com/1GbFny5IC9— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) June 18, 2024
Jez is getting salty
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 10:42 (one year ago)
there's a twist at the end of this story. https://t.co/GTq5WNYM4Y— bat020 (@bat020) June 18, 2024
lol, one of the Galloway party candidates, an old scouse git from Southport, claims he would have been on the Titan submersible's final voyage if (really important detail here) he could have afforded the 250k fee.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 14:33 (one year ago)
Nigel Farage is on track to overturn a huge Tory majority to win in Clacton while Jeremy Corbyn, standing as an independent, is predicted to lose to Labour in Islington North.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/18/labour-landslide-projected-tory-seats-conservatives-general-election
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:08 (one year ago)
Damn it to hell.
the Clacton polling I saw had Labour/Reform/Tories all around 30%. Can't believe the Graun is relishing the prospect of Corbyn losing.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:19 (one year ago)
Corbyn, the former Labour leader who lost the party whip, is predicted to lose to Labour, which would pick up 54% of the vote in Islington North, while all independent candidates combined get just 13%.
lolwut
sounds like bs
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:24 (one year ago)
a lot of bs here
"The Greens are making headway in Bristol Central, where they are challenging Labour’s Thangam Debbonaire"
the polling had them 13 pts ahead a few weeks back and they've just recently won a shitload of council seats, Thangham is toast.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:28 (one year ago)
Yeah I am prepared for Corbyn to lose because everything is awful at all times and only likely to get worse but less than 13%, that just doesn't scan.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:52 (one year ago)
That has to be a classic Grauniad misprint.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:58 (one year ago)
it would be funny if it turned out the polling data was madly skewed by ppl forgetting he's an independent and meaning Labour as Corbyn.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:59 (one year ago)
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:59 (one year ago)
Faiza Shaheen has got the Rocket Ron endorsement
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 18:10 (one year ago)
No real way to know of course but this seems highly unlikely and possibly even a case of motivated reasoning, if not the more obvious case of a misprint
― anvil, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 18:13 (one year ago)
I think there could be shy Corbyn voters amongst the posh white liberal melts of Islington N, the other guy is such an odious little shit - I feel like there might be buyer's regret concerns that will haunt ppl in the voting booth.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 18:23 (one year ago)
It's not clear if they actually interviewed lots of people in Corbyn's constituency or if that's just their forecast for his constituency based on the numbers they've got generally. I still haven't seen any polling for Chingford.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 21:11 (one year ago)
Channel 4We apologise about our previous post misleading people to click on a link to register to vote in the upcoming election. Our full apology can be found here: https://bit.ly/45r5wCd
― Mark G, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 11:11 (one year ago)
I mean, it's a bit late now, but...
AVR would solve a lot of problems
https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/latest-news-and-research/parliamentary-briefings/automatic-voter-registration-avr-briefing/
― Grandpont Genie, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 11:33 (one year ago)
just watched the Ash Sakar interview with the bald, pickled Labour-Brain aka Mick Lynch and am really starting to dislike this guy. Nobody should vote Labour if the party is likely to inflict harmful policies on them, the only leverage people have is their vote. He's more similar to Mandelson than he realises imo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 13:00 (one year ago)
having a privatised NHS and thousands of disabled + sick people made destitute might not be so bad if Mick can win some weak as piss concessions for his union members
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 13:05 (one year ago)
Saw this on TV last night, they have 122 candidates standing in the election! But this is still apparently the best they can do (check for a very special celeb appearance three minutes in)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcvd2AodoSg
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 15:17 (one year ago)
voters canvassing the political parties on their doorsteps and being impolitely told to fuck off by them is a very odd concept
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 15:46 (one year ago)
I will admit I laughed at the LibDems bit.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 16:01 (one year ago)
"just watched the Ash Sakar interview with the bald, pickled Labour-Brain aka Mick Lynch and am really starting to dislike this guy."
Guy has always been Labour. Solid entertainer in the way he deals with the press but there was a point ppl (or twitter posters) wanted him to try and lead some kind of breakaway movement.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 16:07 (one year ago)
Trade Unionism is more often than not like Labourism, an inability and lack of desire to look beyond the game as it is currently played, however rotten that game is
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 16:39 (one year ago)
SDP have basically been cryptofash for ages i thought
Their candidate for the London Mayor was all anti-wokeism - but then so were most of the others.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 16:44 (one year ago)
yeah that's a standard shadow cabinet stance now
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 16:45 (one year ago)
tbf Labour are not-at-all-crypto fash now
Saw this on TV last night, they have 122 candidates standing in the election! But this is still apparently the best they can do (check for a very special celeb appearance three minutes in)📹
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:04 (one year ago)
if we could find a way to harness melts handwringing about Just Stop Oil we'd be carbon neutral in a week
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:16 (one year ago)
Between JSO and Fossil Free Books, the melts are en fuego this week.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:29 (one year ago)
Agreed the sdp video is the best thing I've ever seen. Best bit is "all over the country" when it so briefly cuts from Dulwich in summer bursting with greenery to somewhere *possibly Northern* in brutal clear focus.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:35 (one year ago)
Lol that the main parties are represented by louche gay retirees
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:36 (one year ago)
???
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:37 (one year ago)
there's a lot of Strasserite subtext in there tbf
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:37 (one year ago)
I fear I am gonna be caught walking around repeating “we can’t just have open borders,, with, an,yone coming in??” to myself
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 17:48 (one year ago)
they couldn't have the Labour one admitting they were just as fash as SDP. I'm too busy to talk rn, got to send some threatening legal letters to Martin Forde and block some Muslim candidates from standing. But tell Liddle he's welcome to come back.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 18:05 (one year ago)
Stonehenge is a load of shite anyway. I saw a program once where the presenter was marvelling at the neolithic ingenuity it took to lug some bigass rocks from Wales. Wow, big deal.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 18:06 (one year ago)
just a lonely girl, tryin ta stop immigration
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 18:07 (one year ago)
I was thinking what familiar vibe I was getting from that vid. It was shit 80's horror movie Dream Demon (that has Jimmy Nail in it).
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 18:24 (one year ago)
oh that one
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 18:29 (one year ago)
it was a big hit in the video rental shops
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 18:43 (one year ago)
Just watched about as much as I could bear of an interview with Rachel reeves and she is just really unbelievably stupid; without a basic grasp of simple causative concepts a small child could understand.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 21:09 (one year ago)
Just mad that everyone (who counts) can team up to put anyone in number 11 and they choose this blithering idiot
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 21:10 (one year ago)
I cannot stand listening to her voice for more than a couple of seconds.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 21:18 (one year ago)
I hate her more than Kieth, mainly because I've been hating her much longer - ever since her hateful benefits scum rhetoric when she was in Ed's shadow cabinet. Also she is a fucking economically illiterate moron with a portrait of a nazi on the feature wall of her office. Hope she dies.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 21:22 (one year ago)
she's an extreme example of the "what the fuck led you to a job in politics when you've clearly got no interest in it?" Labour vibe
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 21:23 (one year ago)
Yeah, I got a Facebook reminder a while ago that it'd been 11 years since I posted something on Thatcher's death, noting that some of her victory was the Shadow State for Work and Pensions vowing that Labour were going to be tougher on welfare than the Tories - and that Shadoe Secretary is going to be Chancellor in just over two weeks!
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 20 June 2024 01:41 (one year ago)
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 21:18 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Yes this is a significant barrier also!
― plax (ico), Thursday, 20 June 2024 07:34 (one year ago)
it was funny when it was revealed the book she *wrote* on female economists was just basically a load of c+ped wikipedia entries in series and it plagiarised Hilary fucking Benn. But yet she is considered some kind of paragon of steely eyed competence by grown ups. Her voice is just like Kieth's.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 June 2024 07:49 (one year ago)
New: Understand Islington North Labour CLP chair Alison McGarry resigned today after being “caught red-handed” campaigning for Jeremy Corbyn. She apparently attempted to hide behind a hedge after being spotted by “multiple witnesses”— Rachael Burford (@RachaelBurford) June 19, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 June 2024 08:02 (one year ago)
― conrad, Thursday, 20 June 2024 08:26 (one year ago)
Remember when Reeves cried about being called a red Tory https://t.co/JUCJRpTc79 pic.twitter.com/Hnku26tx2q— j (@jrc1921) July 14, 2023
Try calling her a Socialist and seeing how she reacts to that.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2024 09:10 (one year ago)
Reeves is like Truss, seemingly; only a spell in government will cure her of her credibility with the media and politics bods in general. Maybe after she's fucked our futures she can go back to her natural home profiting shareholders on a board somewhere
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:19 (one year ago)
lol I got my dates wrong above - Reeves didn't become DWP Shadow Secretary until October 2013 (and then started making the existing line even tougher) - the Shadow Secretary I was bothered about at the time of Thatcher's death was..... Liam Fucking Byrne!
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:32 (one year ago)
I saw a video of Praful Nargund doing a presentation on the "very important" matter of privatising healthcare. This would have required damage control if he had been a Tory candidate in 2019. But now its not even news and he could end up unseating Corbyn. He's got a head start with all the party apparatus and data and then some disengaged voters will vote Labour without even looking at the candidate name. The thing in Jez's favour is that he talks like a creepy cunt and most ppl meeting him might need a sick bag.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:33 (one year ago)
Which is precisely why they're keeping him away from any hustings and making sure he speaks to as few voters as possible. My abiding hope is that as more and more polls show Labour with some ridiculous Putin style 400+ seats and 200+ majority, people will say fuck it, they're going to win anyway I can vote for Corbyn (or whoever) after all. However the world is so shit right now that probably won't happen.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:40 (one year ago)
I'm not sure people vote that way. Corbyn and May were both supposedly unpopular in 2017, which should have given license for people in safe seats not to vote for them but both racked up the votes in safe seats regardless
― anvil, Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:46 (one year ago)
I don't see the connection. Keeping the Tories out is the main reason lots of people vote Labour, if they're on their way to 420 seats that doesn't seem such a motivator, they can afford to lose the odd seat here and there.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:53 (one year ago)
Having looked at the Islington North result from 2019, if we assume a substantial squeezing of the tory and lib dem vote as right wingers in the constituency coalesce around Nargund, it looks like Corbyn will need to keep at minumum about 2/3 of his existing vote to win. It sounds achievable, if the word can be got out effectively enough that it's really a byelection with no real bearing on the national result. But who knows. It's a bit annoying that Corbyn didn't start campaigning until labour imposed a candidate- if he'd accepted the obvious a while back, that he was never going to be labour's candidate under Keith, and started work accordingly- he could have had it sewn up tight by now.
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:53 (one year ago)
2/3rds that is- 2 or 3 voters isn't going to cut it
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:54 (one year ago)
The YouGov poll for Sky suggests he's going to lose... not by much but it's not that close either. If that's what happens I'm never setting foot in Waitrose on Holloway Road again.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:56 (one year ago)
I don't see the connection. Keeping the Tories out is the main reason lots of people vote Labour, if they're on their way to 420 seats that doesn't seem such a motivator,
I think because in a safe seat your vote doesn't matter. So voting against the opposition isn't necessary, and if you don't like your own candidate there is no reason to vote. But people voted Tories and Labour in high volumes in 2017 in safe seats where their vote didn't matter and they had a chance to boycott their supposedly unpopular leaders
Its not clear to me that people voted any differently in places the result mattered than in those where it didn't (although the obvious counter to that is that neither May nor Corbyn were actually unpopular at all, which is probably also true)
― anvil, Thursday, 20 June 2024 11:59 (one year ago)
The YouGov poll for Sky suggests he's going to lose... not by much but it's not that close either.
the yougov mrp is fundamentally going to struggle at predicting seats like corbyn's where there are distinctive local factors that don't map to the broader partisan trends, that's just not what that sort of model is good at predicting.
― ufo, Thursday, 20 June 2024 12:48 (one year ago)
they know it as well, but Corbyn losing is the content they crave. Not to suggest he hasn't got a big task on.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 June 2024 12:55 (one year ago)
It also appears @prafulnargund failed to register or declare this clear conflict of interest when serving as Labour councillor in Islington.The US based company he was employed by have numerous private clinics throughout the UK, including one just a mile away from Islington! https://t.co/UITBB3Qpaf— Red Collective (@RedCollectiveUK) June 19, 2024
this guy is so mired in Tory style sleaze you can see why Labour are hiding him from public debate and scrutiny.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 June 2024 13:35 (one year ago)
Islington North’s Labour campaign, proud to have photos in front of a hedge
he's posted a petty dig at someone who has had to resign from Islington N CLP because she couldn't in good conscience, support the candidacy of this vile little creep.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:34 (one year ago)
― ufo, Thursday, June 20, 2024 12:48 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
I'm waiting to see the commissioned survation poll
― plax (ico), Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:40 (one year ago)
Lotta Vote Corbyn posters in the shops and restaurants 'round Finsbury Park I gotta say.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:42 (one year ago)
I haven't been in a long time but will be around Monday probably so interested to see. Have been considering phone banking for the campaign
― plax (ico), Thursday, 20 June 2024 16:22 (one year ago)
Looked up on the bus and the way home and what do I see ... a Vote Corbyn poster. No guarantee of anything and I suspect the Shy Tory phenomenon has been replaced by Shy Labour in this constituency.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2024 16:51 (one year ago)
For the first time in her life, my Daily Mail reading, 83 year old mother in law isn’t going to vote Tory (and she’s not defecting to Reform either, which is a relief as I do love her dearly).
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 20 June 2024 17:12 (one year ago)
did she make that Social Democrats ad then
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 20 June 2024 19:28 (one year ago)
Not sure poster count means much. I see about five Faiza Shaheen posters for every one Labour parachute candidate one round our way, but she's not going to win. Hope I'm wrong!
― Alba, Thursday, 20 June 2024 19:42 (one year ago)
hilarious that SKS has ended up saying he would have preferred jeremy corbyn to boris johnson - a lot of people will now be questioning his judgement!
― conrad, Friday, 21 June 2024 08:41 (one year ago)
Imagine that, the cunt has finally admitted the guy he served under and said would be a "great Prime Minister" would have been better than one of the worst Prime Ministers in British history - hurrah!
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 21 June 2024 08:55 (one year ago)
And I bet he doesn't even believe that...
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 21 June 2024 09:04 (one year ago)
That’s the line he should have taken all along, but whoever’s running his show has STAY CLASSY tattoed in their arse.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 21 June 2024 09:29 (one year ago)
Worry not, one of Murdoch's creatures will have a word with of McSweeney's and Starmer will be urged to repair the damage; he'll be denouncing Corbyn's antisemitism or pacifism in a day or two.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 21 June 2024 10:12 (one year ago)
I've no real interest in The Real Kier Starmer, but the opening paragraphs do underline how amazingly bad he is at any of this.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/22/you-asked-me-questions-ive-never-asked-myself-keir-starmers-most-personal-interview-yet
But then he can’t really say if he’s strictly an optimist or a pessimist and, no, doesn’t know if he’s an extrovert or an introvert, either. “I’ve never really thought about it. I don’t know what that tells you.” He doesn’t know what he dreamed last night – or ever: “I don’t dream.” Just hits the pillow at 11 and – “bang” – is out till around 5. He doesn’t have a favourite novel or poem, wasn’t scared of anything as a child. “Nothing. No phobias.” Hmmm, this is harder than I thought. What about his lovely heather-coloured tie, where is it from and who chose it? He takes it between finger and thumb. “Would you say heather? I had it down as slightly darker.” Quick-fire is perhaps not his format.
(Content warning that the latter part of the article is largely about The Real Kier Starmer)
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 22 June 2024 13:23 (one year ago)
NEW Constituency Poll in Holborn and St Pancras for @38degrees LAB 54% (-12)GRE 14% (+11)LD 9% (-3)CON 9% (-6)IND 6% (new)REF 5% (+3 from Brexit Party)OTH 4% (+4)F/w 19th - 21st June. Changes vs. Notional 2019 result pic.twitter.com/W9LXTf3hFZ— Survation. (@Survation) June 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 June 2024 17:54 (one year ago)
If this is happening in Starmer's backyard then maybe Lab won't win as many marginals
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 June 2024 17:55 (one year ago)
That London though, Sadiq Khan's multicultural ULEZ crime-ridden Islamist hellhole.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 June 2024 17:58 (one year ago)
LAB 54% (-12)GRE 14% (+11)
yeah he's going to piss it, but that is a big chunk of his vote that could go green and Feinstein isn't polling too badly, all things considered.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 23 June 2024 19:18 (one year ago)
he actually spent a nuclear amount on campaign ads in Holborn, higher than anywhere else in the country apparently. The cunt is slightly rattled.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 23 June 2024 19:20 (one year ago)
Sorry this is naive. I would not trust Lib Dems to deliver this in a coalition with Lab.
Not sure I've mentioned yet that the @LibDems manifesto on migration is really excellent.The only one of 3 main parties to commit to scrapping the Hostile Environment & learn the lessons from Windrush, propose safe routes for refugees, or take steps to keep families together 🩷— Zoe Gardner (@ZoeJardiniere) June 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 24 June 2024 09:33 (one year ago)
... obvious but always true.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Monday, 24 June 2024 09:44 (one year ago)
still waiting for the Guardian to resurrect one of their "Lib/Lab will save Britain" headlines
― that's that me: a Viking (seandalai), Monday, 24 June 2024 11:09 (one year ago)
Don't need to when Labour aren't threatening to do anything
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 June 2024 11:54 (one year ago)
Not to be mean but I'm pretty sure Zoe Gardner was very unenthusiastic about Labour in 2018, when they were offering everything she claims to want.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 24 June 2024 12:15 (one year ago)
Latest CCHQ email sent in the name of Keir Starmer:“Ignore this email and let me do to the country what you know I want to do.” pic.twitter.com/IBcOKEsBre— James Heale (@JAHeale) June 24, 2024
Yours not sincerely,Keir Starmer (not really but it is what he thinks)
Keir Starmer (not really but it is what he thinks)
might sign all of my posts like this from now on
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 24 June 2024 21:17 (one year ago)
a lot of that is ripe coming from the Tories. 'i want to change the system so i can stay in power for years'. you mean like boundary changes, and voter suppression? the discredited 2000 pounds thing is still there. and if pensioners are paying income tax now it's because of the threshold freezes.
― koogs, Monday, 24 June 2024 23:34 (one year ago)
The highest quality candidates
BREAK: Labour now facing their own betting scandal Party has suspended parliamentary candidate Kevin Craig after being told the Gambling Commission has launched an investigation into him— Shehab Khan ITV (@ShehabKhan) June 25, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 17:47 (one year ago)
that's not the best bit
I understand Labour will return the £100,000 Kevin Craig has donated to the party under Keir Starmer's leadershiphttps://t.co/m2CNNvg7Wb— Aubrey Allegretti (@breeallegretti) June 25, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 17:50 (one year ago)
it's VERY surprising when Labour have brought in a load of ne'er-do-well corrupt councillors, millionaires and corporate lobbyists as parliamentary candidates and it turns out they've got some dodgy fuckers amongst this intake!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 17:59 (one year ago)
The best bit might be that he was betting on himself to lose, presumably as a hedge?
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:04 (one year ago)
it would be a win-win (until your arse gets hauled in by the gambling commision, lool)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:07 (one year ago)
This is the dumbest possible scandal so I guess it was inevitable a labour guy would be found doing the exact same thing
― subpost master (wins), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:08 (one year ago)
like betting against the club you support and don't really want to lose, the highly corrupt and illegal version of that.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:09 (one year ago)
Yea i guess “the same thing but even dumber” is technically more accurate
― subpost master (wins), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:18 (one year ago)
it's easy to imagine young + dumb footballers getting into trouble like this out of a mix of youthful naivety, ignorance and also the nature of gambling addiction. These old politicians who've been caught out, well these bent impetuous fucks just think they are above the law imo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:22 (one year ago)
this is a fantastic photo the guardian has gone with
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/dd5883f6fbc3ccf5d2e25c8c474638f8230c0692/0_60_754_452/master/754.jpg?width=1300&dpr=2&s=none
https://i.imgur.com/swGeiUt.png
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:24 (one year ago)
also one for the Kieth looking very awkward and unsettled next to tall people archive
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:28 (one year ago)
betting on the Tories winning his own seat!!!!! lololol11!!!!eleventy!!!11!!
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 19:11 (one year ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1801967323181395970/nNpw9Peq?format=jpg&name=900x900
The Labour candidate suspended for betting against himself in the general election is chief executive of lobbyist PLMRKevin Craig's company was behind Responsible Gambling Week, 'a nationwide awareness campaign to promote safe gambling'
Kevin Craig's company was behind Responsible Gambling Week, 'a nationwide awareness campaign to promote safe gambling'
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 26 June 2024 04:08 (one year ago)
How you know your MP/PPC is of the Labour right: coming from or going to a sinecure with a gambling lobby or organisation. I loathe this ‘industry’.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 26 June 2024 04:32 (one year ago)
OK.
Labour’s plan for your future: tax, tax, tax. pic.twitter.com/8OVNVp4hac— Conservatives (@Conservatives) June 26, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 22:09 (one year ago)
TV ratings last night:Sunak v Starmer, BBC One: average 2.7m, peak 3mGeorgia v Portugal, ITV: average 4.2m, peak 6.4m
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 June 2024 11:03 (one year ago)
🗳️ MRP projection for Islington North:⚪️ Corbyn 37% (+37)🔴 LAB 33% (-31)🔵 CON 12% (+2)🟢 GRN 8% (-)Via @ElectCalculus / @FindoutnowUK, 14-24 June pic.twitter.com/KlzVEBuCyo— Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️⚧️ (@LeftieStats) June 27, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 11:23 (one year ago)
Tory vote up?
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 27 June 2024 11:26 (one year ago)
Yeah, that looks well dodgy.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2024 11:38 (one year ago)
Poster who runs that account needs to die
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 June 2024 11:40 (one year ago)
Glad that Left discourse on Twitter is so firmly focused on one single bloke
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 June 2024 11:45 (one year ago)
there are a few candidates whose failure would make me happy - Praful Nargund, Akehurst, Debbonaire, Babs come to mind. But otherwise it's just going to be a dreadful GE night. These cunts winning a big majority is going to feel just as much an augur of bad shit to come as 2019 was to me. No harm in concentrating on the ones you want to fail most!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 12:09 (one year ago)
No Lib Dem column and I thought Greens had stood down in Islington North?
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 27 June 2024 12:11 (one year ago)
I think the person behind that account is a bit cracked!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 12:15 (one year ago)
"Hardly bad"
Across the country there is the most the most corrosive cynicism about politics. We can argue about why it’s there, and it’s justified sometimes, but it can also be reflexive and unfair. Not sure we should laud and amplify it without good reason- Sunak and Starmer have their…— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) June 27, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 June 2024 12:30 (one year ago)
ppl need to be more civil and respectful towards subhuman scum
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 12:45 (one year ago)
wtf pic.twitter.com/GIdJFYNNZY— ©️Miss Gripper ™️ (@missgripper_) June 26, 2024
I can't stand Dylan, but this is good
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 13:18 (one year ago)
What’s Ed Davey up to now? pic.twitter.com/AEoyTqYVxM— Swed (@Swedleypops) June 26, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 June 2024 14:15 (one year ago)
I thought that must have been some AI generated filth at first, amazingly it is real
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 14:21 (one year ago)
#upthearsecorner
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 27 June 2024 14:36 (one year ago)
OK so lots of people in Islington North think Corbyn is the Labour candidate.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/27/jeremy-corbyn-voter-confusion-islington-north
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2024 15:13 (one year ago)
“We spoke to one person who said ‘I’ve already voted by post, and voted Labour – I love Jeremy,’”
This of course is largely Corbyn's own fault for clinging on to the Labour Party for so long.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2024 15:17 (one year ago)
There’s no knowing whether that person put their x next to the Labour logo or JC’s name, of course.
― Tim, Thursday, 27 June 2024 16:17 (one year ago)
Do we know how he's listed on the ballot - "Independent" "Independent Labour" or "Labour (Independent)" or what? This could really be the thing that swings it.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 27 June 2024 16:33 (one year ago)
“We spoke to one person who said ‘I’ve already voted by post, and voted Labour – I love Jeremy,’” one Labour source said. “But you’ll knock on other doors and people go ‘no, not Labour. Oh, hang on, it’s not Jeremy any more.’”
"Labour source" wouldn't lie about these things, of course
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 27 June 2024 16:49 (one year ago)
“The thing about Jeremy is that he always overestimates how popular he is,” one party source said.
Also, this may or may not be true, but they are only saying it because they regard it as gross impertinence that he should dare to challenge them at all. They've said nothing like this about Farage
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 27 June 2024 16:57 (one year ago)
Of course! It works both ways. I'm trying to remember the relative prominence of the candidate's name or party on a ballot sheet.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2024 17:04 (one year ago)
i think currently the logo is more prominent than the name and it's right next to the tick box
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 June 2024 17:09 (one year ago)
it could work both ways but if they are sleep-voting it's more likely to be LABOUR that get's the x.
latest IPSOS poll has Starmer's favourability rating even lower than Corbyn's ever fell to. An amazing achievement with a compliant UK media giving him a free pass.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 17:11 (one year ago)
Looks like this
https://i.imgur.com/aAikgmo.gif
― Alba, Thursday, 27 June 2024 19:44 (one year ago)
Corbyn relying on doddery old codgers not noticing anything other his name on the ballot paper.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2024 19:47 (one year ago)
^^
how the class struggle is advanced!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 June 2024 19:47 (one year ago)
(Socialist fire)brand recognition
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2024 19:51 (one year ago)
Corbyn is alphabetically ahead of nargund
― plax (ico), Thursday, 27 June 2024 21:46 (one year ago)
What are the Reform grassroots like and lol.
One thing about Sunak that really hasn't been discussed is whether his Indian background goes into the list of reasons he is fucked.
EXCLUSIVE: We’ve gone undercover inside Nigel Farage’s Reform UK campaign in Clacton and found evidence of anti-migrant rhetoric, homophobia and one canvasser making racist and offensive remarks. As @DarshnaSoni reports. pic.twitter.com/VkhVLczjcw— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) June 27, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2024 06:58 (one year ago)
Its not necessarily on the UK media. It just hasn't been trotted out as an answer anywhere.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2024 06:59 (one year ago)
I remember people talking about racism as a factor in why he lost the leadership election to Truss the first time around
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 28 June 2024 07:14 (one year ago)
Lovely bunch of lads.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 28 June 2024 07:18 (one year ago)
In the melted mind saying the word "racist" out loud is significantly worse than actual racism
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 June 2024 07:19 (one year ago)
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 28 June 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Guess so but that's 100k pensioners than the wider electorate.
A lot of Tories staying at home or being energised to vote Reform makes even more sense.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2024 07:48 (one year ago)
"But there is a second scenario in which Starmer’s Labour succeeds, as New Labour did not, in fully marginalising the Tories; Labour would, in effect, becomes a new, competent, small-C conservative party. This would be welcome – a Starmer-led conservatism is infinitely preferable to a Sunak-led one. It also opens up the possibility that the stultifying consensus of the past 40 years is broken not by the extreme right, by new political forces of the centre and left – who have fresh stories to tell about where we have been and where we might go."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/28/keir-starmer-labour-britain-conservative-party
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2024 17:13 (one year ago)
another blinkered old history prof that needs to stick with history imo
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 17:32 (one year ago)
Ugh. So much wishful thinking going on with these cunts.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 28 June 2024 17:33 (one year ago)
you have to be on drugs or are just be utterly clueless to believe there is going to be any kind of centre-left policy direction from Labour in govt. He's wrote some good stuff in the past and was the only establishment liberal to call bullshit on the "worst election result since 1931" line from the Labour Right. He's got more integrity than most of those wankers, so I'd go with clueless in this case.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 17:40 (one year ago)
My charitable reading on that para is that the 5% left of Toryism could be welcome. Sadly I don't think crumbs from the ruling classes is the way to go.
Because a competent small c-conservatism still kills the poor, the vulnerable and ethnic minorities and I don't think moving the dial just a tiny bit is worth it in anyway.
Bizarre conclusion as I was mostly OK with what I was reading up to then.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2024 18:30 (one year ago)
i take it to be meaning that starmer's success knocking out the tories and setting out a new-conservative table may have the (good) effect of clearing space for and energising younger forces on the left. is it well written to that end? not especially! will this happen? it's up to us!*
*not me, i am not "younger forces"
― mark s, Friday, 28 June 2024 18:38 (one year ago)
there is a nutcase my stepdad occasionally plays chess with who he has nicknamed "forces". It came from an incident where nutcase was trying to ponce some money off him with some ridiculous scheme and stepdad said nah I'm skint m8. And in reply he went on a long ramble about "the forces" that have made his life one of intolerable failure and how he's going to fight back against these forces with deadly measures, then he menacingly added I'm starting to think you might be part of the forces, you could become part of the forces, you know!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 19:18 (one year ago)
https://images.indianexpress.com/2024/05/Praful.jpg?w=1024
at the moment, this is the face of "younger forces" within the PLP
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 19:21 (one year ago)
"i take it to be meaning that starmer's success knocking out the tories and setting out a new-conservative table may have the (good) effect of clearing space for and energising younger forces on the left."
As you say not especially well argued if that is what he means.
I would like to see a take like this bcz I need that crumb!
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2024 19:55 (one year ago)
after the vote changes Starmer enacted within NEC any chance of member led movements happening within Labour again are effectively dead and due to climate change, even in the short term, humanity might be fucked as well. To be naive enough to think that politicians within this rotten, anti-democratic to the core party are going to change this rotten game or even push the overton window a few mills to the left, are fucking deluded imo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 20:07 (one year ago)
unless member driven movements are corporate lobbyists, landlords, IDF apologist lobby groups etc..
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 20:08 (one year ago)
I don't think the logic in mark s's post necessitates the energising younger forces coming from within labour - in fact if anything labour taking the place of the tories means the opening up for new forces would happen outside it
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 28 June 2024 20:12 (one year ago)
we might see a glimpse of some of that next week
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 20:15 (one year ago)
maybe it's a case of people on the left finally getting the message that Labour is not a vehicle for change and starting to face the realities of what needs to be done
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 June 2024 20:15 (one year ago)
actually never mind Labour, maybe recognising that electoral politics in the UK as now constituted is probably not a vehicle for change
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 June 2024 20:17 (one year ago)
Just as an aside I am glad this election has coincided with the Euros. The football has proved to be distracting.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2024 20:37 (one year ago)
yes i took edgerton's "new forces" to mean forces arising outside the labour party (tho i was writing no more clearly than him i guess)
― mark s, Friday, 28 June 2024 20:49 (one year ago)
those younger forces in full: https://i.imgur.com/3qu4Esw.jpg
― subpost master (wins), Friday, 28 June 2024 20:56 (one year ago)
Edgerton is good at writing about stuff like the electronic warfare equipment of ww2, but in the realm of contemporary politics (apart from when I rarely agree with him) he's an extremely wrong hack!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 June 2024 21:48 (one year ago)
A really good essay by Huw Lemmey, mostly on class as it runs through a number of books and films but also released at certain points in the political cycle, where it tips from red to blue and back again.
https://huw.substack.com/p/everybody-hates-a-tourist
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 June 2024 10:45 (one year ago)
Latest odds:
Labour Majority 1/80
No Overall Majority 18/1
Reform UK Majority 100/1
Conservative Majority 150/1
Liberal Democrat majority 250/1
― Mark G, Saturday, 29 June 2024 11:43 (one year ago)
Turnout in Iranian election was 40%
Wonder what it will be like here. Below 50?
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 June 2024 11:50 (one year ago)
has everyone been getting this or is it a local concept?
https://i.imgur.com/gzGg9Mv.jpeg
― mark s, Saturday, 29 June 2024 19:30 (one year ago)
You wouldn't know an election is on where I live... well apart from the four Vote Corbyn posters I just saw in the street parallel to mine.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 June 2024 19:34 (one year ago)
Widget got papped by the Corbyn canvassers on Thursday afternoon :)
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 29 June 2024 20:44 (one year ago)
I don't care for Glasto or Coldplay but lol at looking at this through Lab party politics.
Especially this melt.
Coldplay is just rubbing it in the face of everyone with any lingering residual attachment to the idea of festival culture as remotely countercultural. It’s one thing to platform the pop princesses du jour, but this feels like the cultural equivalent of deselecting Faiza Shaheen. https://t.co/s43c2ZESgd— Jeremy Gilbert (@jemgilbert) June 30, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 30 June 2024 08:44 (one year ago)
i also don't give a shit about Coldplay but they certainly bring out the hatred from people who think they're still edgy as fuck for liking some other guitar boy shite
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 June 2024 08:59 (one year ago)
Exactly
― Mark G, Sunday, 30 June 2024 09:06 (one year ago)
my son keeps playing this 30 second clip of a Coldplay song over and over in the next room, sometimes for an hour. And it doesn't make me angry, but sometimes I have to put my headphones on. Just lol at the idea of music festivals being countercultural events, stfu posh hippy - most ppl can't even afford the tickets.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 June 2024 09:11 (one year ago)
All countercultural events from the past would now be mainstream events.
― Mark G, Sunday, 30 June 2024 09:17 (one year ago)
always laugh at the idea of working class people in retail and hospitality industries having the money and the holiday entitlement for it and choosing to take time off for four days in middle of summer to go get wasted in a field to some middling indie
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 30 June 2024 09:17 (one year ago)
i know "but mark fisher" can quickly pull you into tricky places but one of my favourites remains "kpunk was a coldplay stan"
as am i of course *everyone groans at my shit*
― mark s, Sunday, 30 June 2024 09:57 (one year ago)
oh from my 'hanging out with online zoomers' findings I can confirm that hating Coldplay is a passe genx/millennial activity, the young nerds consider them a decent pop band, I've found myself giving them props
― imago, Sunday, 30 June 2024 09:59 (one year ago)
I went to see Coldplay in 2005 with my family at an outdoor concert - my grandparents bought us tickets after confusing them with Goldfrapp who we were all fans of. I saw a guy do the biggest line of cocaine off the back of his hand at the start of Fix You and then have a highly emotional response to the rest of the show, it was quite bizarre
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:01 (one year ago)
imago there confirming thst user dubdobdee is an "online zoomer"
― mark s, Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:03 (one year ago)
it's true!
― imago, Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:05 (one year ago)
― imago, Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:59 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
theory: what Phil Collins is to millenials, Coldplay is to gen z
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:09 (one year ago)
i know st peter will call my name have a little honest word that the splinter rule the worldChatGPTThe lyrics you provided seem to be a bit mixed up, but they closely resemble lines from the song "Viva La Vida" by Coldplay. The actual lyrics are:"I know Saint Peter won't call my nameNever an honest wordThat was when I ruled the world"
ChatGPTThe lyrics you provided seem to be a bit mixed up, but they closely resemble lines from the song "Viva La Vida" by Coldplay. The actual lyrics are:
"I know Saint Peter won't call my nameNever an honest wordThat was when I ruled the world"
this is how sharp my lyric comprehension skills are when IDing what turned out to be a Coldplay song playing over and over in the next room
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:20 (one year ago)
The nerds I hang out with also really like Genesis tbf
― imago, Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:31 (one year ago)
Yes, Coldplay are OK, I saw a Radiohead concert on TV once which annoyed me a million times more.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:33 (one year ago)
Conclusion: Coldplay and Radiohead are not only both shite but indistinguishable to boot
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Sunday, 30 June 2024 10:58 (one year ago)
I heard a Coldplay song recently and I was surprised at how stupid it was. I hadn't heard them in 10-15 years
― plax (ico), Sunday, 30 June 2024 13:53 (one year ago)
Last I heard of them was Limmy watching a clip of them inviting James Corden onstage to sing for his birthday. It wasn't great tbh.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 30 June 2024 13:59 (one year ago)
my controp is that i’d rather watch Muse at a festival than idk CHVRCHES or the 1975 or something
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:03 (one year ago)
Oh God no, Muse are literally the worst band in the history of the human race.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:04 (one year ago)
brah just wait till you get your face melted off at the Park stage
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:10 (one year ago)
lol what next... Idles
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:20 (one year ago)
I caught 5 minutes of Coldplay this morning. I've not really had any interaction with them for 10 years or so and christ alive, what *are* they now? They played 'Hymn to the Weekend' and Chris Martin bounced up and down like an ageing redcoat.
Also, are they the least recognisable 'huge' band ever? 'What does the bassist from Coldplay look like?' feels like an existential question somehow, one I don't know how to answer.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:29 (one year ago)
Anyway, they're an easy target and I sound like a rockist dad.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:35 (one year ago)
I think Coldplay are the rule as opposed to the exception there, I don't know that there's many bands from the last 20 years or so where casual fans know all members.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:38 (one year ago)
isn't most of his public recognition down to him getting unconsciously fucked off by Paltrow?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:43 (one year ago)
I think it might be selling 100m records to dullards
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:50 (one year ago)
time to exit the vampire's castle matt
― mark s, Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:56 (one year ago)
I was going to ask about other bands, as we are abroad and not watching coverage...
But, this isn't the Glastonbury thread, is it?
― Mark G, Sunday, 30 June 2024 17:06 (one year ago)
Is he in a dance studio?
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/07ae0b2d5800cc5dc7822047ca4d6010149a4ed0/0_392_7416_4452/master/7416.jpg?width=465&dpr=1&s=none
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Sunday, 30 June 2024 20:35 (one year ago)
just a lonely man, thinking about having a wank after shutting the curtains.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 June 2024 20:45 (one year ago)
He’s talking about Lena Jeger here, who was a pioneer on women’s pensions and equal pay, and was a cross-party sponsor of the Abortion Law Reform Act of 1967. Starmer has quite a way to go before he can dismiss her like this. https://t.co/MG6VXV8o3H— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) June 30, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 July 2024 07:49 (one year ago)
Pippa talking about exactly the kind of material improvement in people's lives Starmer won't do shit about
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 July 2024 07:51 (one year ago)
I'd just simply put a No Pissing sign in the elevator! Kieth would have people serve an 18 month prison sentence for pissing in elevators, no mistake. What Kieth is essentially saying is he'd come out with some condescending bullshit to the moaning voter, because they are idiotic scum and you don't talk to them on the level or in a serious manner about the real issues - just assume they are extremely thick and feed 'em shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 1 July 2024 08:48 (one year ago)
is this just a rebadging of the old "broken windows" bollocks?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 1 July 2024 08:56 (one year ago)
Apologies for linking to Unherd but I found this quite an interesting read on the differences between Blair-Mandelson and the McSweeney-Starmer project - which in essence seems to be No Pissing signs on a slightly bigger scale.
https://unherd.com/2024/05/the-mcsweeney-project/
― Maggy Scraggle, Monday, 1 July 2024 08:59 (one year ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRW-QavaYAAtS64?format=jpg&name=medium
Lena's own telling of that anecdote is not quite like Starmer's, but it wouldn't be because she was capable of self-deprecation and humour.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 1 July 2024 09:51 (one year ago)
Pretty sure Kieth was just saying ‘imagine anyone actually gives a fuck about Gaza lol’ with his version of that anecdote rather than indicating he was going to fix council funding or whatever
― crisp, Monday, 1 July 2024 09:58 (one year ago)
I occasionally run into centre-left types who think of foreign policy as some secondary concern, like it's a nice charity initiative you can indulge in sometimes but not The Important Bit Of Politics.
As a foreigner living in the UK it is always sobering to see.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 1 July 2024 10:01 (one year ago)
Potholes Not Gaza should have been one of Labour's slogans for this election.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Monday, 1 July 2024 10:06 (one year ago)
Ed Davey uses bungee jump to urge voters to 'do something you've never done before' and vote Lib Dem
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 July 2024 13:48 (one year ago)
Some pointless, gimmicky, potentially risky, activity that impresses no-one except those who've done it before.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Monday, 1 July 2024 14:00 (one year ago)
Next stunt full midsommar Ättestupa ceremony or gtfo
― subpost master (wins), Monday, 1 July 2024 14:03 (one year ago)
Tomorrow: Ed Davey takes a submersible to the wreck of the Titanic
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Monday, 1 July 2024 14:07 (one year ago)
North face of the Eiger the day after.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Monday, 1 July 2024 14:14 (one year ago)
In his most daredevil stunt yet, Davey tries to justify u-turning on student fees to an audience of debt-ridden 30 year olds
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 1 July 2024 14:17 (one year ago)
Ed Davey to face a riled up Jofra Archer wearing no box challenge
― SPENGE (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 1 July 2024 14:18 (one year ago)
Zoom in on my marrow. pic.twitter.com/J4SPoBiLMX— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) June 30, 2024
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 July 2024 20:53 (one year ago)
Ooer missus
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Monday, 1 July 2024 20:54 (one year ago)
it's soo big
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 1 July 2024 20:56 (one year ago)
can't even see wtf is to be zoomed in on - on his eye-watering marrow!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 1 July 2024 21:09 (one year ago)
no good having a big marrow when you lack MeSsAGiNg DiSciPliNe!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 1 July 2024 21:26 (one year ago)
Help us get out the vote in Islington North. Pussy Link in bio!
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 1 July 2024 21:47 (one year ago)
Rude of Cromblyn to steal Labour's strategy of featuring big vegetables in their campaign ads
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 July 2024 21:49 (one year ago)
kind of sad that the campaign only has another couple of days to run, I'd like to see how weird the tory promos would get if we carried on for another fortnight or so
Inside is a letter. Purportedly from future me in 2044 to me today in 2024...Mad. pic.twitter.com/zOpBFNw9po— goriller_of_3b (@goriller_of_3b) July 1, 2024
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 1 July 2024 22:33 (one year ago)
Hmm, so that Reform letter suggests nothing would actually be terrible
― Mark G, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 03:29 (one year ago)
Heis never going to stop
Whatever happens on 4 July, I will be there on Saturday demanding an end to arms sales to Israel. We have a message to any incoming government: we won’t let you abandon the Palestinian people. We won't let you turn a blind eye to genocide. pic.twitter.com/EV1fLunEPs— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) July 1, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 07:49 (one year ago)
Friday Day one Labour policy.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/01/greece-introduces-growth-oriented-six-day-working-week
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 11:47 (one year ago)
"Some could remember celebrating when Labour took the town hall, and they’d been talking about how they were going to vote this Thursday. No one said they were going to back Starmer, and it was largely because of their experience in this dispute. “So disappointed,” said one. Another said: “Two sides of the same coin.”"
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/02/euphoria-reality-labour-future-thatcher-tory
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 13:38 (one year ago)
the gall of the parachuted-in Labour ghoul, Heather Iqbal doing a mailout with "the choice is between an unknown, unproven independent candidate shouting from the sidelines..." she lives in Glasgow and has no connections with the region at all, unlike the independent candidate.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 14:16 (one year ago)
Plenty of wealth to be taxed.
And THAT is how you smash a target.👊💥 https://t.co/DMQhfNEDo9 pic.twitter.com/ytCuNUDjO8— Mike Galsworthy (@mikegalsworthy) July 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:20 (one year ago)
if i was gonna vote for Labour on Thursday i would have a convincingly developed argunment about why i was voting for racism, transphobia and class hate but maybe i missed something
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 22:01 (one year ago)
you missed the bit about them more likely to truly finish off the NHS as a free at point of access service than any Tory govt of the last decade, but that is just a fucking minor detail of how wretched they are!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 22:15 (one year ago)
nah you're right calz i don't think we can undersell how much vicious evil destruction is on the way just in case anybody wants to feel good about getting the tories out
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 22:18 (one year ago)
after years of existing within the protections inherent to the old fashioned legacy benefits I'm currently getting migrated onto UC and genuinely thinking to myself this is bad timing, not when Labour are getting in ffs!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 22:40 (one year ago)
Private rents in Great Britain hit record high, data shows
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 08:39 (one year ago)
Whatever the answer is, it certainly isn't rent controls or increasing public housing stock
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 09:59 (one year ago)
The solution: PFI housing
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 10:22 (one year ago)
"Now imagine if on Friday we learn that the Liberal Democrats have just beaten the Conservatives to get second place in terms of seat numbers, and so will become the official opposition to a Labour government. What the overall dividing lines between a Labour government and Liberal Democrat opposition will be are difficult to predict, but this in itself will make the UK political debate more interesting and probably more informed"
Hilarious shit taken from this blog by Simon Wren-Lewis:
https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2024/07/why-tactical-voting-in-this-election.html?m=1
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 11:45 (one year ago)
"One insider with knowledge of the party’s growth plan suggested there could be “pretty hair-raising stuff” ahead. “There will have to be almost Truss-ite deregulation, on things like planning and freeports, in the first two years, that will have to be balanced with the longer term. But it will have to be presented carefully so that it doesn’t look like Tory-lite, sugar-rush economics.”"
Among all the fluff;
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/03/no-drama-starmer-how-labour-would-govern
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 12:49 (one year ago)
more freeport expansion = more shitty poverty wage jobs and more tax evasion.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 14:04 (one year ago)
so not gonna happen
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRkBSOzX0AAM2o2?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 14:27 (one year ago)
According to the new More in Common MRP poll, Jeremy Corbyn is set to win in Islington North as an independent, beating the official Labour candidate by 43% to 37%.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 15:30 (one year ago)
Fingers crossed.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 15:39 (one year ago)
No hierarchy
Undercover police officers compiled numerous secret reports on Diane Abbott while she was campaigning against racism, a public inquiry has heard. https://t.co/XHz07QHWk7— rob evans (@robevansgdn) July 3, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 15:44 (one year ago)
Looking forward to the Labour leadership's statement supporting their parliamentary candidate, assuming she still is (I got a bit lost with it tbh)
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 15:49 (one year ago)
She is yeah, meaning I have to go and vote labour tomorrow. Was frankly hoping she'd go independent so I wouldn't.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 15:50 (one year ago)
She deserves your vote! Despite late endorsements from [cranks I don’t like] anyone in Holborn and St Pancras should vote for Andrew Feinstein, ofc Widget-endorsed JEZZA if you are lucky enough to live in Islington North, and Faiza Shaheen in Chingford snd Woodford (do any ILXors live there?).
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 16:11 (one year ago)
The people speak:
Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has entered his party’s rally at Clacton pier on an army vehicle to the tune of ‘Without Me’ by Eminem.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 18:05 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/03/keir-starmer-son-toolmaker-but-different-class-problem-for-labour
this is good
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 18:30 (one year ago)
if someone ran on the platform of inserting a electrode into every politician's head which gave them a potentially fatal electric shock every time they used the word "deliver" then they'd have my vote.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 18:35 (one year ago)
Thanks NV.
"He also has a strongly held belief in tech and AI. His shadow cabinet is fixated on the possibility of “reforming” public service provision, particularly the NHS, for which Starmer has said technology will be used “to overhaul every aspect of delivery”. According to this view, there is little need for more money or investment when problems can be solved by better management and more “innovative” systems."
There is something to tech in facilitating solutions but they've been sucked in by management consultancy and when applied to some of the problems we face there is a a good chance it will be disastrous.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 19:04 (one year ago)
this is fucking terrifying as well
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/02/labour-plans-britain-private-finance-blackrock
Labour’s strategy raises a bigger set of questions about the type of state we want. Starmer’s vision for government-by-BlackRock reduces the question of state capacity to “how do I get BlackRock to invest in infrastructure assets?” This model involves the state in effect subsidising the privatisation of everyday life. This doesn’t only make it harder to bring public goods back into public ownership; it also allows big finance to tighten the grip on the social contract with citizens, and to become the ultimate arbiter of climate, energy and welfare politics, which will have profound distributional, structural and political consequences.
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 19:29 (one year ago)
I also like the photo they've chosen for this article
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/03/britain-will-not-rejoin-eu-in-my-lifetime-says-starmer
He's looking at some of the southeast FBPE types with that cheeky "got you!" grin
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 19:35 (one year ago)
Xxp Particularly disastrous when waffle about “innovation” and “overhauling delivery” is received as sensible, realistic, not like the silly pie in the sky (defined material change) offered by the left
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 19:37 (one year ago)
The prospect of the scale of PFI Labour could bring in is legit terrifying, yes
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 20:17 (one year ago)
Gotta be more racist
🚨 BREAKING: The Times has refused to endorse Labour and will back no party this election pic.twitter.com/JBo46qo8Iz— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) July 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 20:33 (one year ago)
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 bookmarkflaglink
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 bookmarkflaglink
The collapse -- when it comes -- could be fast.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 20:35 (one year ago)
Always funny to hear that "we don't know what they're going to do" line - they're going to do all the shitty things you ghouls want done, relax. xpost
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 20:35 (one year ago)
it's truly dystopian, after the last global crash, at the time did anyone suggest that letting these softly regulated parasitic hedge funds take over a country's infrastructure would be a jolly good idea?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 20:37 (one year ago)
Surrounded by empty seats, in a closed dialogue with his plutocratic paymasters. A perfect encapsulation of the incoming Starmer government, a right-wing fraud perpetrated on the British people. https://t.co/Ne2LwzfXpC— Joe Guinan (@joecguinan) July 3, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 20:41 (one year ago)
good luck, UK
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 4 July 2024 05:36 (one year ago)
^^^
― mookieproof, Thursday, 4 July 2024 05:42 (one year ago)
i'm just psyched cos i booked tomorrow off work
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 06:00 (one year ago)
i don’t know if i’ve ever seen a politician this spineless. that list of politicians includes a lettuce btw
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 July 2024 07:30 (one year ago)
Going "our way" everyone, no need to worry
One of my sisters has had a Labour First Minister in Wales, and I’ve been able to vote for Sadiq in London. But fourteen years is a REALLY long time in elections. It’s so weird to think about a results night that… goes our way?— Dr Charlotte Lydia Riley (@lottelydia) July 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 07:42 (one year ago)
I wouldn't be boasting about a sister shagging a Labour First Minister
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 07:57 (one year ago)
You don't have to feel hopeful about the future, it's enough to just be curious about what horrors are coming next.— Nihilists for Labour (@Nihilists4Lab) July 4, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 08:17 (one year ago)
Fool.
If you think Starmer’s Labour is too cautious and conservative and you can’t get excited, simply load up on anguished right-wing commentary and see it through their eyes: a woke socialist revolution is coming— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) July 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 08:23 (one year ago)
yeah thank god for the radical new vision of prime minister keir hongro
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 4 July 2024 08:31 (one year ago)
Quantick has been saying similar things in similarly infuriating fashion https://bsky.app/profile/quantick.bsky.social/post/3kwgsfnsfhl2o
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 4 July 2024 08:42 (one year ago)
I must admit I was convinced this was going to be a lot closer than predicted but the Tory campaign has been such a shambolic mess and Sunak such a total disaster that I can't see anything other than an unearned landslide for the Keirbot.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 08:47 (one year ago)
Not buying off Farage too...
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 08:57 (one year ago)
Indeed
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:05 (one year ago)
Brain dead takes.
Well, it was amazing that we had a brown PM. Something I thought I would never live to see. But he dabbled in racism when it was convenient, and, politically speaking, turned out to be a total and utter bellend. https://t.co/zLctH6rK4O— Sathnam Sanghera (@Sathnam) July 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:23 (one year ago)
So according to Dorian if you're not convinced that Starmer is going to be politically progressive, you should... *checks notes* have faith in Conservative propaganda
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:25 (one year ago)
I'm not in UK, and was looking on the BBC website for the front pages, but there are none.
Am I too late, or are the FPs subject to the reporting restrictions? I have a vague memory this happened last year...
(I've seen the Sun fp, so no bother)
― Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:37 (one year ago)
There is this, so maybe restriction-based? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd1xnr0qz4jo
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:40 (one year ago)
Yeah, thought so, cheers.
― Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:50 (one year ago)
This'll be the first time I've not seen them, usually totally crazy batshit time, even when they totally confident of winning. Can only guess how desperate they are now.
I got a hint if how The Times was leaning, I take it the Telegraph are Boris Crazy time...
― Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:52 (one year ago)
I guess Private Eye is out already, funny how events conspire to make their news immediately out of date or/and speculative..
― Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2024 09:54 (one year ago)
Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S) at 9:42 4 Jul 24Quantick has been saying similar things in similarly infuriating fashion https://bsky.app/profile/quantick.bsky.social/post/3kwgsfnsfhl2o
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 July 2024 10:07 (one year ago)
I’m afraid you’re going to have to do this without me, two decaying postal services and Camden electoral services have conspired to deny me my democratic birthright to vote against a boiled ham in a suit.
― Ed, Thursday, 4 July 2024 10:08 (one year ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRfm7sIXMAEdAVF?format=jpg&name=large
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 10:32 (one year ago)
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 10:33 (one year ago)
The concussive blast of the mockery would create a new geological layer
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 July 2024 10:35 (one year ago)
Ah, Ed, I’m sorry you didn’t get that to work out but next time let’s make sure your proxy vote is locked down, happy to help :)
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 4 July 2024 10:57 (one year ago)
I always hated Quantick (and Maconie's) smug faces and patter in the 90s, but inexplicably we were told this guy was funny. Jane Bussman was the only reason to watch their tv show.
Quantick called 2019 Labour votes "deluded wankers". Always projection.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 July 2024 10:59 (one year ago)
Maconie used to file reviews for gigs he never attended. If my friend who was his editor had found out in time, she would’ve sacked his ass and a bereft world would never have known the glory that is Cider With Roadies.
Incredulous 22yo me to Quantick in the NME office, checking out his T-shirt: “YOU know who Jenny Holzer is? Amazed!”
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:08 (one year ago)
_So according to Dorian if you're not convinced that Starmer is going to be politically progressive, you should... *checks notes* have faith in Conservative propaganda_Honestly wish that guy still posted here
― subpost master (wins), Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:18 (one year ago)
wins otm, Dorian a cunt regardless
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:24 (one year ago)
This ham can be easily weakened by a scandal.
Starmer has responded to our story on freebies: (I make it that £23k of Starmer’s freebies were Arsenal away matches) https://t.co/D42SkfEkgJ pic.twitter.com/uDKrQiocJM— Chris Cook (@xtophercook) July 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:28 (one year ago)
Xp No front pages on the BBC website today, but the Star front page looks like this:https://www.frontpages.com/g/2024/07/03/daily-star-233216465.webp
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:30 (one year ago)
the mailagraph will go ham on him and it will be fun to see what they dig up and make into an issue
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:30 (one year ago)
The Daily Mail front is 'Vote Farage, Get Them' with them being Keir and Rayner (who they particularly despise)But seems intended to also be interpreted as 'Vote Farage! GET 'em!'
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:42 (one year ago)
I don't reckon the right wing press will going after Starmer for a while yet. If they get this ridiculous majority they're going to be all powerful for years to come and the media are going to have deal with that.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:52 (one year ago)
You can see all the front pages here:https://www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk/Who will save us from "rampant wokery" and the "surrender of our Brexit freedoms"?
― groovypanda, Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:57 (one year ago)
I believe the Brexit freedoms may be safe for a while yet
― PJ Scurvy (Matt #2), Thursday, 4 July 2024 12:22 (one year ago)
Thank god England are going to lose is my main feeling atm
― subpost master (wins), Thursday, 4 July 2024 12:39 (one year ago)
Lab policy idea:
Greece Just Became the First European Country to Impose a 6-Day Workweekhttps://t.co/VDG4INewGl— Alex doing Research (@AAfouxenidis) July 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 12:40 (one year ago)
saw a poll a few years ago showing that Greek people had the longest working week in Europe already.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 July 2024 12:54 (one year ago)
Live a min from a polling station. Its all quite lively. There are never going to be many queues in my solidly Lab constituency.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 13:02 (one year ago)
they split my ward into 2 queues depending on which half you live in, my half had no queue and the other one was down the street. not sure why, just luck maybe
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 13:05 (one year ago)
Polling station on my estate was just putting up signs as I was on my way to work. It’s about 30s walk from my house but the idea of going home to get my passport then going out again to vote is already making me annoyed. Totally pointless vote (Harriet Harman’s old constituency - no idea who the new candidate is but assume they’re nailed on to win), will either vote Green because they’re the only party who ever bother to come and have a visible presence on the estate, or I’ll spoil the ballot, depending on how my next 3 hours go.
― crisp, Thursday, 4 July 2024 13:46 (one year ago)
it isn't quite Harman's old constituency, it's a new one that largely covers it! pedantry is important! good to know C Sheppard will have at least 2 votes, she seems nice
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2024 13:50 (one year ago)
the heir apparent seems like she's from a slightly more left-wing blairite think-tank than usual *rolls eyes*
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2024 13:51 (one year ago)
only one at my polling station when I just voted
― nxd, Thursday, 4 July 2024 13:55 (one year ago)
... dogs or voters?
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 13:57 (one year ago)
Harman’s constituency has been split between 5 of the new seats - the Labour candidate for the bit I’m in is R Reeves’s sister.
― Tim, Thursday, 4 July 2024 14:06 (one year ago)
I voted around half 7, it was quiet
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 14:18 (one year ago)
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 14:40 (one year ago)
pic.twitter.com/wlm4vdxzI7— Tony Robinson (@Tony_Robinson) July 4, 2024
was going to vote, but I bumped into this cunt and decided to go on a murder spree instead.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 14:45 (one year ago)
I didn’t vote but I wasn’t going to anyway. My polling station is quiet but that’s normal for this time of day. Previously when I’ve voted there - always in the morning before work - it’s been brisk and it’s usually busy in the evening after people finish work until closing.I was travelling around all day - not working today - and kept seeing what I realised were Labour signs in people’s gardens with the huge Union flag emblems. I kept mistaking them for Tories - depressing. We got a load of last minute election literature through the door yesterday, all delivered by the same person. We didn’t get them but I heard that there’s some “pro-life” group posting literature with unborn babies on the front or something, so cool reminder that it actually can always get worse. Might have been the H3r1tag3 party - bunch of fucking fascists.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 14:49 (one year ago)
Voted. Station had a small number of voters. Is it usual for someone to ask for your address outside?
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 July 2024 14:52 (one year ago)
I was asked for my address but that was so they could tell me which queue to join
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:05 (one year ago)
xxp I got a last minute leaflet from Labour, from Keir himself reminding me he'd changed the Labour party just in case I forgot and was going to vote for them by mistake
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:06 (one year ago)
No, I don't mean at the tables, I mean outside the station after voting
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:09 (one year ago)
oh after, no. I did mean outside, I was asked outside when I got there, so they could direct me to the right queue. but that was before I voted, not after
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:10 (one year ago)
I've heard that when you're asked outside it's so they can cross off known supporters of whichever party they are working for, so they can potentially send someone round to cajole people who haven't voted yet, but that seems a bit dubious to me
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:13 (one year ago)
I think that must be it, when I asked why he needed my address he said so we can remind you to vote. I said it was okay I've voted, but he persisted, still mumbling that he wanted my address, and I declined.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:18 (one year ago)
I got asked my polling number, or whatever you call it, by a Corbyn canvasser before I went in. I said, don't worry I'm voting for him.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:19 (one year ago)
They're called "tellers" and they're gauging the level of the vote for particular parties
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:21 (one year ago)
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/sites/default/files/2023-02/Tellers%20guidance%20EA22.pdf
― mark s, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:25 (one year ago)
cheers
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:27 (one year ago)
i would have had no problem telling the who i'd voted for, but that wasn't what he asked me
From Survation
Final probabilistic seat count:
Labour: 470 (-5)Conservative: 68 (+4)Liberal Democrats: 59 (-1)Scottish National Party: 14 (+1)Reform UK: 15 (+2)Green Party: 4 (+1)Plaid Cymru: 3 (-1)
MRP Final UpdateWe published our final polling call last night based on our telephone poll conducted between the 1st and the 3rd of July, alongside an updated set of MRP estimates.Overnight, we ran the model again, which now includes the final responses collected by telephone… pic.twitter.com/D5fOllAySA— Survation. (@Survation) July 4, 2024
― djmartian, Thursday, 4 July 2024 16:33 (one year ago)
lmao Reform 15 c'mon
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 16:38 (one year ago)
lived in this place for 23 years has been an ultra safe tory seat all the time.now we have been put into a different constituency where it's a lot more balanced and our votes could make a difference re the top 2.had to go for the tactical option.also, got a LOT more literature than ever before, and even my very first door knock canvasing last sunday.has felt weird given the complete lack of need/interest in 23 years.also, was mk2s' first time voting and he has really got into the whole researching options etc.suspect he will even be staying up for the exit poll. i am sure he will get disillioned in due course, but hey ..
― mark e, Thursday, 4 July 2024 16:43 (one year ago)
healthy dose of scepticism required for my predictions since I’ve not read the news for 5 years but why not:
LAB majority (395 v CON 165?)SNP better than predicted (30-33?)corbyn holddebonnaire losssunak lossshaheen loss + IDS lossfarage wintruss holdturnout lower than 2010LAB votes lower than 2019 👀 2017
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 4 July 2024 17:08 (one year ago)
Reform have crumbled like an underfired mug with hot coffee just poured into it
― Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2024 17:10 (one year ago)
Ugh reform
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 17:21 (one year ago)
I did the thing. Was expecting some canvassers but I forgot nobody cares what happens around here.
― emil.y, Thursday, 4 July 2024 17:29 (one year ago)
LOL talk about a one party state! Putin would be delighted to have those numbers.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 17:29 (one year ago)
It’s fine because every 10-15 years we get to change the party to a slightly different one
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 4 July 2024 17:40 (one year ago)
Voted
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Thursday, 4 July 2024 18:02 (one year ago)
Some Other Predictions:
Labour leads in the final Westminster polls, by pollster:
20 Survation20 Opinium20 People Polling19 Savanta19 Lord Ashcroft19 Techne19 Redfield & Wilton18 WeThink17 Deltapoll17 Whitestone Insight17 BMG15 Verian15 JL Partners14 More in Common13 Norstat
📈Labour leads in the final Westminster polls, by pollster: 20 Survation20 Opinium20 People Polling19 Savanta19 Lord Ashcroft19 Techne19 Redfield & Wilton18 WeThink17 Deltapoll17 Whitestone Insight17 BMG15 Verian15 JL Partners14 More in Common13 Norstat— Will Jennings (@drjennings) July 3, 2024
Lucy Fisher (FT)
XC: The Tories’ *own internal forecast* by the end of today is that they will confidently hold around 80 seats, while a further 60 are in play, acc to a senior party insider
EXC: The Tories’ *own internal forecast* by the end of today is that they will confidently hold around 80 seats, while a further 60 are in play, acc to a senior party insider That means even on an optimistic scenario tomorrow, Conservatives would only return 140 MPs - fewer…— Lucy Fisher (@LOS_Fisher) July 3, 2024
Electoral Calculus:
Electoral Calculus: LAB 453 (38.8%) | CON 78 (21.8%) | LIB 67 (11.0%) | Reform 7 (16.4) | Green 3 (6.3%) | SNP 19 (3.1%) | PlaidC 3 (0.6%) | ◽️Other 2 (2.1%)
Electoral Calculus: 🌹LAB 453 (38.8%) | 🌳CON 78 (21.8%) | 🔸LIB 67 (11.0%) | ➡️Reform 7 (16.4) | 🌍Green 3 (6.3%) | 🎗️SNP 19 (3.1%) | 🌼PlaidC 3 (0.6%) | ◽️Other 2 (2.1%) https://t.co/GhF3kKlZsj— Politico Digital UK (@PoliDigitalUK) July 4, 2024
Stats for Lefties:
🚨 FINAL FORECAST FOR #GE2024 ― Labour majority🔴 LAB 456 (+256)🔵 CON 80 (-292)🟠 LD 65 (+57)🟡 SNP 21 (-27)🟢 GRN 4 (+3)🟢 PC 3 (+1)🟣 REF 2 (+2) pic.twitter.com/pKz3ycVdgZ— Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️⚧️ (@LeftieStats) July 3, 2024
Stats for Lefties own forecast based on aggregated data
LAB 456 (+256)
CON 80 (-295)
LD 65 (+57)
SNP 21 (-27)
GRN 4 (+3)
REF 2 (+2)
OTH 19 (-)
New Statesman / Britian Elects:
LAB: 40.6%, 418 MPs (+237)CON: 20.6%, 114 MPs (-277)REF: 15.8%, 6 MPs (+6)LD: 11.4%, 63 MPs (+55)GRE: 6.0%, 4 MPs (+3)SNP: 33.0%*, 23MPs (-25)PC: 12.6%*, 3 MPs (+1)Other: 5.3%, 1 MP
These are the @NewStatesman / @BritainElects final seat predictions for the 2024 UK general election:LAB: 40.6%, 418 MPs (+237)CON: 20.6%, 114 MPs (-277)REF: 15.8%, 6 MPs (+6)LD: 11.4%, 63 MPs (+55)GRE: 6.0%, 4 MPs (+3)SNP: 33.0%*, 23MPs (-25)PC: 12.6%*, 3 MPs (+1)Other:…— The New Statesman (@NewStatesman) July 3, 2024
Election Maps:
Eve of Poll Nowcast (03/07):
LAB: 436 (+236) - 39.7%CON: 101 (-271) - 22.0%LDM: 66 (+58) - 11.1%SNP: 17 (-31) - 2.9%GRN: 4 (+3) - 6.5%PLC: 4 (+2) - 0.6%RFM: 3 (+3) - 16.2%Others: 0 (=) - 1.1%
+ NI (18) & Speaker (1).
LAB Maj of 222.
🚨 || Eve of Poll Nowcast (03/07):LAB: 436 (+236) - 39.7%CON: 101 (-271) - 22.0%LDM: 66 (+58) - 11.1%SNP: 17 (-31) - 2.9%GRN: 4 (+3) - 6.5%PLC: 4 (+2) - 0.6%RFM: 3 (+3) - 16.2%Others: 0 (=) - 1.1% + NI (18) & Speaker (1).LAB Maj of 222.https://t.co/Y304WEsKwv pic.twitter.com/BC8a4ZSwzZ— Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) July 3, 2024
JL Partners (Polling Company)
Labour 442Conservative 111Liberal Democrats 58SNP 15PC 3Green 1Reform UK 1
https://t.co/D3gEHeEHQG
🚨LABOUR SET FOR A 234 SEAT MAJORITY🚨@JLPartnersPolls final SRP seat estimates:🔴 Labour 442🔵 Conservative 111🟠 Liberal Democrats 58🟡 SNP 15🏴 PC 3🟢 Green 1🟣 Reform UK 1https://t.co/D3gEHeEHQG pic.twitter.com/62LyygEmJ6— Callum Hunter (@Callum_L_Hunter) July 3, 2024
Focal Data (Polling Company)
Seat countsLabour: 444 (-6 since last week)Conservative: 108 (-2)Lib Dem: 57 (+7)SNP: 15 (-1)Reform: 2 (+1)Plaid: 2 (-)Green: 1 (-)
🚨 Our final MRP poll of the election campaign indicates that Labour are on course for a record-breaking 444 seats.Seat countsLabour: 444 (-6 since last week)Conservative: 108 (-2)Lib Dem: 57 (+7)SNP: 15 (-1)Reform: 2 (+1)Plaid: 2 (-)Green: 1 (-)https://t.co/IwXIclr113 pic.twitter.com/RuUuEgvY1P— Focaldata (@focaldataHQ) July 3, 2024
YouGov (Polling Company)
The final YouGov MRP projection
Labour: 431 (+229)Con: 102 (-263)Lib Dem: 72 (+61)SNP: 18 (-30)Reform UK: 3 (+3)Plaid: 3 (-1)Green: 2 (+1)
🚨 BREAKING: The final YouGov MRP projection Labour: 431 (+229)Con: 102 (-263)Lib Dem: 72 (+61)SNP: 18 (-30)Reform UK: 3 (+3)Plaid: 3 (-1)Green: 2 (+1)Fieldwork: 19 June - 2 July— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) July 3, 2024
Ben Ansell (Politics Professor at Oxford University) Nuffield & Oxford
Labour with 440, the Conservatives with 85, Liberal Democrats with 70, SNP with 28, Reform with 6, the Greens with 1, and Plaid with 1. Don’t know about Northern Ireland, sorry.
see detailed thread:
Here’s what you get. Labour on 433, Cons on 91. Lib Dem’s not far behind on 70 and SNP on 35. One each for Greens and PC. But but but… 5/n pic.twitter.com/W0aBfplGPV— Ben Ansell (@benwansell) July 3, 2024
More In Common (Polling Company)
and the most optimistic tory prediction provided by More In Common
Labour majority of 210 & worst defeat in Tory Party historyLAB 430 (+228)CON 126 (-239) LD 52 (+41)SNP 16 (-32)REF UK 2 (+2)GRN 1 (-)PLAID 2 (-2)OTH 2 (+2)
🏁 Our final @moreincommon_ @TheNewsAgents MRP projects a Labour majority of 210 & worst defeat in Tory Party history🔴LAB 430 (+228)🔵CON 126 (-239) 🟠LD 52 (+41)🟡SNP 16 (-32)🟣REF UK 2 (+2)🟢GRN 1 (-)🟢 PLAID 2 (-2)⚪️ OTH 2 (+2)N 13,556 | 24/6 to 1/7 pic.twitter.com/pU1iQy0bGF— Luke Tryl (@LukeTryl) July 3, 2024
― djmartian, Thursday, 4 July 2024 18:35 (one year ago)
Real shame lib dems are not going to be official opposition: Starmer and Davey could've bored us to death on PMQs every week around rejoining EU.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 18:38 (one year ago)
Pollsters just picking random numbers for SNP and Reform and hoping they stick.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 18:51 (one year ago)
ed paragliding in through the ever-larger holes in the HoP's ceiling
― mark s, Thursday, 4 July 2024 18:54 (one year ago)
on the phone to the Guinness Book of Records to see if Channel 4's election coverage tonight can get in as most soul destroying tv broadcast of all time
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:03 (one year ago)
They've got Dorries so...still better than best friends Balls and Osborne on ITV
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:20 (one year ago)
Osborne should be in the fucking Tower
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:24 (one year ago)
Didn't dorries push for shutting down c4?
― nxd, Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:24 (one year ago)
C4 is the only one I can watch from the US! On its live YouTube channel…
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:26 (one year ago)
there is some coverage on bbc.com as well but it won't tell me what from here
― koogs, Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:36 (one year ago)
there's an independent candidate here called Kombat Diva and nowhere on the internet has any info on them, lol
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:36 (one year ago)
Sky News also on YouTube, unless it's geoblocked, suzy
― Alba, Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:37 (one year ago)
It seems quite expensive to run an anti-campaign just to give your mates a laugh
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:40 (one year ago)
― nxd,
very much so mainly cos ch4 had ice chaired her unrequited lover, i.e. boris, on a panel/discussion show that he didn't turn up for.
― mark e, Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:44 (one year ago)
When are the general election results expected? Estimated timings for every constituencyhttps://inews.co.uk/news/general-election-timings-results-3148815
― djmartian, Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:37 (one year ago)
Our constituency has been Tory since 2010, with polling suggesting it could go Lib Dem. The Labour candidate has basically been invisible as it's not a target seat. Was gonna vote Green as a) I know her and like her and b) all the other Lib Dem candidates since we moved here have been hopeless. Watched the local candidate hustings on YouTube (63 views when I played it a week after it had been uploaded!),and this Lib Dem sorta seems competent enough on local issues. As I'd rather have LDs as official opposition in HoC, it ended up being quite an easy choice.
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:40 (one year ago)
In the previous 2 elections I needed a load of booze to face the exit-poll dread, stone cold sober tonight.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:47 (one year ago)
yeah at least I don't have to expect a bad surprise when I wake up tomorrow, I know what's happening
except not really re: Corbyn but I'm not staying up till 3am for that sorry Jeremy
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:50 (one year ago)
Wondering why elections make me quite so anxious and I think it's basically trauma from 1992, 2015 and 2019. Especially 1992 because it was such a formative age and such a shock. 2015 I was in China and had a horrible performance review at work the next day.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:57 (one year ago)
i've just opened a bottle of my friend's home brew wine but tbh i'm already sleepy, let's see how long i can be arsed for
VOICEOVER: he was arsed until the first exit poll was announced
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:57 (one year ago)
oh no, Kwarsi "off your head" Kwarteng is on the C4 panel
― djmartian, Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:58 (one year ago)
The exit poll has ruined election nights, it's too accurate these days.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 20:59 (one year ago)
Reform 13! SNP 10!
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:00 (one year ago)
ffs
SNOOOOOORE
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:00 (one year ago)
Tories losing will be nice, Tories + Reform coming second would be better, Tories + Reform coming third would be best (but I'm aware I'm dreaming)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:01 (one year ago)
That’s not exactly the bloodbath predicted
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:02 (one year ago)
Like people were totally losing the run of themselves predicting the Tories would be reduced to double digits
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:03 (one year ago)
really bad for SNP. GGs
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:03 (one year ago)
I'm disappointed in Scotland for voting for these cunts
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:03 (one year ago)
yeah it's a pretty boring prediction
obv nobody will mention the turnout
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:03 (one year ago)
NV have you gone out for snacks yet and if so what
I think Survation will looking at some redundancies tomorrow.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:04 (one year ago)
i don't have tons of snacks in tbh, i had a big bowl of ramen when i got home and i'm not very hungry lately. got some goats cheese and olives in the kitchen just in case, some spicy honey crisps which are kinda so-so
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:05 (one year ago)
Ray's raspberry and redcurrant wine is quite pleasing tho
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:06 (one year ago)
Lab couldn't even get Tories to < 100, like we were promised
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:07 (one year ago)
Right that's that done. TV off.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:07 (one year ago)
🚨 Full exit poll breakdown: Labour: 410Conservatives: 131Liberal Democrats: 61SNP: 10Reform: 13Green: 2Plaid Cymru: 4Other: 19— PoliticsHome (@politicshome) July 4, 2024
― djmartian, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:08 (one year ago)
BBC comically introducing Angela Rayner as somebody heading for government, yeah for 3 months tops
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:08 (one year ago)
The real winners are the bbc who can have Farage on tv even more and point to wElL hE’s An ElEcTeD pOlItIcIan
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:10 (one year ago)
is the estimated vote share for each party based on the exit poll available anywhere? or just the number of seats
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:11 (one year ago)
This is where being over here is fun: clock the exit poll, settle back into Tour de France replay, watch a bit of the Argentina match later and then start watching coverage again around 7 pm my time/3 am yours to see whatever goes down officially.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:12 (one year ago)
Vote share doesn’t translate into seats neatly because of fptp
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:13 (one year ago)
I wasn't even going to watch it and was gonna go to bed early but a friend had unrelated good news today so we went for a drink and have ended up round a mate's house watching it. Idc really but am pretty tipsy so whatever
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:14 (one year ago)
Sky News just now: Keir Starmer set to have lower vote share than Jeremy Corbyn in 2017— Hamza (@Hamza_a96) July 4, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:14 (one year ago)
no Coop handy, thanks Kieth :(
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:15 (one year ago)
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:13 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I know, but presumably the process by which they process the exit poll data to estimate seat numbers involves them estimating the vote share as well?
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:16 (one year ago)
BBC tell us how Kombat Diva's doing you cowards
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:17 (one year ago)
fuck me Mandelson Balls and Campbell across the 3 main channels it's like fucking Halloween
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:19 (one year ago)
Didn't the exit poll say 13 OTH I reckon Kombat Diva's one of them
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:19 (one year ago)
we can only hope
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:20 (one year ago)
Looks like Labour's vote share is at the lower end of the poll spectruum 36/37%. Which would explain their lower seat total than some of MRPs were predicting.— Sam Freedman (@Samfr) July 4, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:23 (one year ago)
Well, it's about 23:30 here in Calahonda, it looks like there won't be any "voteageddon" and Rishi is going to have to actually resign before he can nick off.
So, think I'll turn in. Will look in in the morning, cheers.
― Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:29 (one year ago)
btw my bit for the duration of the next government will be posting "Change" every time they do some horrible murderous policy announcement straight out of the neolib playbook
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:30 (one year ago)
exit poll suggests Carla Denyer has won
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:35 (one year ago)
right so this is entirely the story of dissatisfaction with tories + vote splitting from reform then, keir has achieved nothing, and a tory/reform coalition would have enough % to beat them into 2nd?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:36 (one year ago)
Did they do Islington north for the exit poll?
― plax (ico), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:37 (one year ago)
For petty, personal reasons I want the exit poll to be as off the mark as possible however
― plax (ico), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:38 (one year ago)
haven't seen any predictions for Islington North yet, BBC feigning a lack of interest of course
Labour probably with less total votes than 2019, this will be of no interest to the centre right cheerleaders obv
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:40 (one year ago)
Corbyn is bound to lose because everything is shit and will be shit forever more.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:41 (one year ago)
Exit poll has Islington North too close to callLabour activists were worried about it today— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) July 4, 2024
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:45 (one year ago)
I would like to point out that the England team haven't lost a match at Euro 2024 under the Tories
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:47 (one year ago)
I’m very interested to know the effect of Voter ID on turnout and how big it was. eg how much disenfranchisement happened and to whom
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:47 (one year ago)
You can get seat by seat analysis of the exit poll on Sky. It says Islington North: too close to call.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:48 (one year ago)
Apparently a lot of ppl never got their postal ballots either xp
― subpost master (wins), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:49 (one year ago)
John Curtice, the Cryptkeeper of UK Politics Entertainment
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:49 (one year ago)
Is that a moustache or just a badly lit top lip?
― Ed, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:51 (one year ago)
what, on Kuenssberg?
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:53 (one year ago)
Looking 'forward' to getting to know 10 or so Reform fashclowns for the first time from some point tomorrow. Can you imagine the state of 'em.
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:54 (one year ago)
Today is the first day I’ve heard Rory Stewart speak. Without wanting to voice-shame anyone and apologies to anyone here who sounds like a constipated cartoon gnome but how has this cunt got a podcast
― crisp, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:55 (one year ago)
youve noticed previously that people with *good* voices are on podcasts?
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:56 (one year ago)
i had a big bowl of ramen when i got home and i'm not very hungry lately. got some goats cheese and olives in the kitchen just in case, some spicy honey crisps which are kinda so-so
best update of the night and maybe the best we can hope for
― crisp, Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:57 (one year ago)
Heard from a well placed source that Thangam Debonaire lost her shit with a Green voter she door knocked when she found out they had postal voted Green. “Don’t you understand you’re going to cost me my job!” and so on. Stunning, legendary behaviour.— Free Palestine 🇵🇸 ULEZbollah? I hardly knew her! (@soup_jihad) July 4, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 21:58 (one year ago)
_i had a big bowl of ramen when i got home and i'm not very hungry lately. got some goats cheese and olives in the kitchen just in case, some spicy honey crisps which are kinda so-so_best update of the night and maybe the best we can hope for
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:00 (one year ago)
well i've got the crisps out
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:00 (one year ago)
xp saw a tweet earlier which suggests that Labour will simply nominate Debbonaire to the Lords which is lol lmao etc
feels like Thangam might've been hitting the Jägerbombs for a couple of weeks now
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:01 (one year ago)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:02 (one year ago)
oh ffs Streeting's loose
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:02 (one year ago)
Dan Jarvis has apparently lost his seat as well (to Reform), according to the exit poll?
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:03 (one year ago)
I just ate a snickers
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:03 (one year ago)
Remember when kieth was gonna abolish the lords
― subpost master (wins), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:03 (one year ago)
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:05 (one year ago)
Following the most important election of our lifetimes from afar and munching on ube-flavoured shortbread, if anyone fancies a food update from the Midwest
― PJ Scurvy (Matt #2), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:06 (one year ago)
no he said polish the lords
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:06 (one year ago)
Btw user felicity asked me a while back to explain Keith/Kieth etc and it’s one of those Twitter memes that’s so embedded I genuinely don’t remember the origin anymore - does anyone?
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:06 (one year ago)
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:07 (one year ago)
Ube is a purple yam that originated in the Philippines. Ube has a brown, bark-like exterior and vibrant purple flesh. Ube has a sweet, nutty flavor and aroma and is commonly used in desserts.
― PJ Scurvy (Matt #2), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:09 (one year ago)
i'm not sure there's a proven ground zero for Kieth?
basically afaik it comes from - too dweebish to remember his name correctly + people often genuinely get the ei in Keir the wrong way round?
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:09 (one year ago)
plus the magic growth ingredient - gallons of boiling melt piss
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:10 (one year ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRrHIjoWcAApTvt?format=jpg&name=largexps ty Matt#2!
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:11 (one year ago)
Ppl were misspelling keir as kier since the beginning, only half intentionally iirc, and he just seems like more like a Keith than he does anything to do with hardie, is my vague sense of the origin story
― subpost master (wins), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:11 (one year ago)
ha, I remember the time when some melt posted that "Kieth" was classist
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:12 (one year ago)
Inexplicable urge to watch results trickle in but without knowing who all but three of the Reform winners would be makes it tougher still.
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:14 (one year ago)
LOL Scotland.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:14 (one year ago)
🗳️ Projected share of the national vote:🔴 LAB 36.1% (+3.2)🔵 CON 25.8% (-18.9)🟣 REF 17.2% (+15.1)🟠 LD 9.4% (-2.4)🟢 GRN 6.1% (+3.3)🟡 SNP 2.6% (-1.4)Via @GBNEWS / @ElectCalculus pic.twitter.com/yhKN94NoeQ— Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️⚧️ (@LeftieStats) July 4, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:14 (one year ago)
51.2% turnout in Sunderland South, huge endorsement
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:15 (one year ago)
Remember when Scotland voted in all a whole lot of Tories when the Tory vote was falling everywhere else?
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:16 (one year ago)
That’s like, what, 20% below EU referendum turnout?
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:16 (one year ago)
Reform getting twice as many votes as Tories in Sunderland South
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:16 (one year ago)
Corbyn got 40% of the vote in 2017 and ca. 150 seats less. Got to love British democracy.
REFCON w.43% - scary for LAB
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:16 (one year ago)
in sunderland
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:17 (one year ago)
yeah this might be the most fragile huge majority in history, good job Kieth is committed to electoral reform
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:18 (one year ago)
so if exit poll is correct the Lib Dem share of the vote has gone down since 2019, but they've also gone from 11 to 61 seats
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:19 (one year ago)
Since I am in Hove our snacks have been olives, tomatoes with some herbs on and I think some kind of omelette
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:20 (one year ago)
i think the idea that PR is a panacea is absolute nonsense but when you see how the current system plays out i'm at least sympathetic to the nonsense
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:21 (one year ago)
oh Colonel Poo just reminded me i've got some radishes in the fridge
Soref can you go read my post about vote share not translating into seats again and again until you stop posting this please? Thanks
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:22 (one year ago)
The fun thing about the Irish voting system is you get to rank from your lead to most hated, and also observe the drawn out humiliation of a former big beast forced to wait for the seventh count to be elected
some of the monsters on my ballot today would've been hard to pick a worst
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:24 (one year ago)
xps I understand how first past the post works, it just seems notable when it throws up counter-intuitive results like these
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:26 (one year ago)
I’m eating monster munch and drinking vin jaune
― crisp, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:27 (one year ago)
God I hate Wes Streeting. To him this is all because of who likes who and seemingly has absolutely nothing to do with actual policies or whats happening to the public.
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:28 (one year ago)
I was home during the Irish Weeklong Festival of Democracy recently, hanging out with an old anarchist complaining bitterly that the Democracy in Ireland has failed so badly that he's had to go vote "and all the way down the ballot to rank the unaffiliated fash over the extremely affiliated fash"
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:30 (one year ago)
Can it be coincidence that KBerg likes the same type of necklace as Truss?
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:30 (one year ago)
You can buffer all the worst choices with a good swath of loonies, no hopers and well meaning single issue candidates - or at least you can in Australia
It’s most fun when you number every box
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Victorian-senate-paper-folded-01.png
― Ed, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:30 (one year ago)
this stupid cunt never misses - a thread that will reverberate through history
First, we've no idea if that Reform number is right. Second, come on people what's the matter with you. After 14 years of the most egregious reactionary horror, we're about to get one of the most progressive parliaments in history.— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) July 4, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:31 (one year ago)
What a fucking idiot.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:35 (one year ago)
Andrea Leadsom has just told the BBC that the Tories lost because they were too woke— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) July 4, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:36 (one year ago)
by my reckoning we could be on course for the lowest general election turnout since the introduction of universal male suffrage
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:39 (one year ago)
This is 3rd term Blair. As a government, it's as dead on arrival as it gets.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:42 (one year ago)
tories will figure this out quite quickly I reckon
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:45 (one year ago)
they'll probably go thru a little internal blood-letting and they'll have to work out how to accommodate Reform but sure, the next GE looks very grim indeed
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:49 (one year ago)
If you can’t get enough of the election coverage, they’re actually showing the 2029 UK results on French TV this Sunday.— CJQ (@camstaquinn) July 4, 2024
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:50 (one year ago)
Exit poll forecasts Reform UK will win both Barnsley North and South.Reform's Barnsley North candidate Bob Lomas is suspended by Reform after it emerged he said black people should "get off [their] lazy arses" and stop acting "like savages".— Harry Horton (@harry_horton) July 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:53 (one year ago)
Very funny how AI is in the brain of these ppl.
Harman has just correctly identified a problem with urban voters being disenfranchised by the electoral system, and then proposed AI as a solution. Should I just go to bed at this point— RopesToInfinity (@RopesToInfinity) July 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:55 (one year ago)
maybe this wine is stronger than i thought cos i swear Mandelson's just said most Reform voters aren't racist
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 22:59 (one year ago)
To paraphrase Mandelson "the people newly voting Reform aren't racist they're just a protest vote"
Sure, sure, the only 'protest' option on the ballot sure.
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:00 (one year ago)
there's another Bob Lomas who writes psuedohistory books with titles like 'The Hiram Key: Pharaohs, Freemasonry, and the Discovery of the Secret Scrolls of Jesus', but the racist Reform candidate seems to be a different guy
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:01 (one year ago)
“An electoral meteor has now struck planet Earth,” Mandelson told the BBC.
― groovemaaan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:01 (one year ago)
In five years' time, we will have forgotten who Nigel Farage was.— John Rentoul (@JohnRentoul) June 6, 2014
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:03 (one year ago)
i mean to be fair when you're deathless you have a shaky grip on the passage of time
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:03 (one year ago)
Swearing every time Mandelson appears tbh
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:04 (one year ago)
five years to Rentoul - the blink of an eye, a blood-sated yawn
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:04 (one year ago)
Reform p much 2:1 on Tories again in Sunderland Central
― nashwan, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:06 (one year ago)
How did “they’ve got nowhere else to go” work out the last time
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:07 (one year ago)
i'm hearing Penny Mordaunt has been running amok round Torquay harbor swinging a big sword
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:08 (one year ago)
Not sure about all these hot takes that that the UK is one election away from the French situation. Rassemblement National is a well-oiled machine that has taken decades to get where it is now, Reform is a shambolic fan club
― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:09 (one year ago)
Tory + Reform vote share is bigger than Labour's, how's that for a hot take?
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:10 (one year ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRrczADbMAYc-_X?format=jpg&name=large
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:11 (one year ago)
Usual suspects on Meltbook being very nasty about ‘Corbynistas’ and baling up the straw men as fast as they can. I’m SO glad a couple of dozen people working for mediocre podcasts/men’s mags/‘90s comedy coattail riders are such fundamentally pathetic, unserious people. Just what the moment needs.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:11 (one year ago)
lol gyac i was just typing that heartwarming story out
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:11 (one year ago)
Literally everytime there’s very clear evidence of the depth of how deeply held and popular racist views are here pol rush to pretend it’s not real and it’s the fault of newspapers, tv etc etc. These are key actors but it doesn’t speak to the sense of WHITE entitlement some have.— Chardine Taylor Stone (@ChardineTaylor) July 4, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:13 (one year ago)
Also every time UKIP/Brexit/Reform *do* get someone elected, they crash and burn because they’re lazy and venal shitepieces.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:13 (one year ago)
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:16 (one year ago)
i havent eaten since a poulet bonne femme at the airport several hours ago and its too late now
gyac otm xp but my update remains unchanged
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:18 (one year ago)
No recession in that house
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:19 (one year ago)
darraghmac are you sure Fizzles isn’t posting from your account rn
100%. it is a terrifyingly real possibility @ gyac.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:19 (one year ago)
he said "at the airport" not "on the bin"
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:20 (one year ago)
brutally short memories here. the shame!
― stirmonster, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:21 (one year ago)
As climate change intensifies agricultural collapse and food price increases, etc. the blaming of all this on migrants coming to escape the worst of it is bound to increase.
Basically there will be a lot more 'shoot the boats' rhetoric.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:21 (one year ago)
there is a furious wind outside here which I think is coming from the BBC
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:21 (one year ago)
plus it will be the CONs who likely assimilate REF, rebrand (“we’ve reformed. let’s reform britain”) then deploy their machinery to crush SKSQC’s band of merry lickspittle xuntz
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:21 (one year ago)
Reform might’ve gotten 50+ seats if it weren’t for a lot of polling stations being in primary schools.— Out of Context Everton (@nocontextEFC) July 4, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:22 (one year ago)
three vicious comments, breaking 66% to me and 33% to fizzles, sky news are reporting he cannot find a safe seat
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:22 (one year ago)
by safe seat do you mean the Fernet on the shelf?
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:24 (one year ago)
labour appear to have only gotten a relatively small swing from 2019 and starmer is already rather unpopular. they seem to have no real plan to fix the uk's structural decline, only a bunch of right-wing garbage in continuity with the tories that won't solve anything. it isn't hard to see how that's going to be perfect conditions for the far right to surge further in 2029 - the main question will probably be how the tories fit into things in opposition - is their brand so damaged now that reform will be the only ones to gain from labour's failings? will they get their shit together but continue to split the vote with reform in a way that means labour is still competitive? will there be some sort of reform/tory merger & rebrand?
― ufo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:24 (one year ago)
ok lol at that tweet
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:25 (one year ago)
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac),
nah i mean from which to perch and eat chinese
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:27 (one year ago)
Bin Chinese place closed, country’s finished mate
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:29 (one year ago)
The woke Tories make you eat Chinese from a plate with a knife and a fork now instead of from the traditional bin
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:30 (one year ago)
i'm hearing Labour plan to issue asbos to gangs of feral youths eating Chinese outside
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:31 (one year ago)
they let Buckland do a massive speech and now he's back on the telly again what is this
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:36 (one year ago)
everybody loves a Good Tory
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:39 (one year ago)
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:41 (one year ago)
BBC radio just said they thought Corbyn has won, pundits tried to say it was because he was the first one on the ballot paper due to it being in alphabetical order by surname.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:41 (one year ago)
i can't take Jeremy Vine seriously when he's not dressed up as a cowboy
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:46 (one year ago)
fr
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:50 (one year ago)
Given the national picture, Labour nervousness in about 20 stronghold constituencies is all the more fascinating.Most of them have large Muslim populations where a protest vote against the way Sir Keir Starmer has dealt with the Gaza crisis could spoil the party for some Labour candidates, including a few big names.Polls have been tight here in Rochdale, where George Galloway is looking to defend his February by-election win, but also look out for results in various Birmingham, Lancashire and Bradford constituencies, as well as Luton North and South, Slough and Leicester South.Some independents standing on a Gaza platform are a threat and, of course, so is Galloway’s Workers Party of Britain here in Rochdale.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:56 (one year ago)
Neil Kinnock now on Radio 4 calling Starmer "a gutsy radical"
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 00:00 (one year ago)
bodyshaming is bad
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 00:02 (one year ago)
turnout in Islington North is 67.5%, a good 10% higher than anywhere that's declared so far
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 00:03 (one year ago)
tbf while I wasn't paying a lot of attention to politics in 1992 I vaguely recall Kinnock being portrayed as a dangerous communist. the cycle of life
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 5 July 2024 00:03 (one year ago)
I've got to get up for work at 5:45. I really should have gone to bed by now.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 5 July 2024 00:09 (one year ago)
same. but I have gone to bed (at 10:30) and still can't sleep.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 00:11 (one year ago)
Have a drink.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 5 July 2024 00:21 (one year ago)
Wow, our Lib Dem has actually booted out our Tory after 14 years.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 00:52 (one year ago)
7312 votes for Feinstein in Holburn and SP, one less than there should have been.
― Ed, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:00 (one year ago)
Corbyn has won says X, not heard it yet on TV though.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:04 (one year ago)
Shapps is out, biggest scalp thus far.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:09 (one year ago)
Labour split saves Duncan Smith, wow, he got lucky.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:12 (one year ago)
Fucking hell, Jezza’s smashed it!
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:25 (one year ago)
Where are you seeing this!?!? I'm dying here
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 02:26 (one year ago)
After all that, not even close from Labour.
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:27 (one year ago)
was just on bbc
Jez speech brutally cut from the coverage to give us this racist frog
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:29 (one year ago)
24k to 16k - that'll send me off to sleep happy here.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:29 (one year ago)
Lol fuck you curtice
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 02:29 (one year ago)
So happy
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 02:30 (one year ago)
Nigel Farage - It’s The BBC Wot Won It.
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:30 (one year ago)
Oh we get the whole Farage speech do we
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:30 (one year ago)
they did go back to the Corbyn speech, surprisingly.
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:36 (one year ago)
I'm so happy
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 02:37 (one year ago)
Electrifying acceptance speech from JC there, the first mentions all night for the stuff that matters most.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:39 (one year ago)
Also big vote shares for independents. Faiza Shaheen had almost as many as the labour right opportunist they booted her for, big numbers for feinstein and lol ashworth losing his seat. Islington north of course.
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 02:40 (one year ago)
Wonder what Shockat is like, presumably he has something about him
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:43 (one year ago)
Starmer falling by 17% is warming even if it leaves him with 50%
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 02:45 (one year ago)
Curtice spelling out that Cons are mostly losing votes to Reform, Lab share not up very much at all. Also cutting forecast of Lab landslide to a somewhat more modest level.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:47 (one year ago)
How did Badenoch get so lucky? Not heard that explained.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:48 (one year ago)
Corbyn doing better in his seat than starmer in his is very enjoyable
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 02:50 (one year ago)
Fucking hell, and ditto for Braverman.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:51 (one year ago)
yay piss off Thangam :D
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:52 (one year ago)
It’s the Reform adjacent Cons who are scraping through. Seriously worried about Rees-Mogg now.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:53 (one year ago)
Blatant leadership pitch there from Braverman.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:55 (one year ago)
yes yes , Jonathan Ashworth unseated.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:02 (one year ago)
Ha ha, Keith Vaz, Claudia Webbe and the official Labour candidate all standing in Leicester East. Tory gain?https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/07/disgraced-keith-vaz-kicked-out-of-labour-as-he-stands-for-one-leicester-party― Alba, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:56 (four weeks ago)
― Alba, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:56 (four weeks ago)
Actually happened
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:02 (one year ago)
Anushka Asthana on ITV pushing back against the narrative that Muslims are single-issue voters: that when she talked to people in places in Leicester things like the two-child benefit cap came up as often as Gaza.
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:07 (one year ago)
Greens have a third seat!!
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:08 (one year ago)
Mordaunt the biggest scalp since Shapps, but that was close.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:10 (one year ago)
Thangam absolutely crushed
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:10 (one year ago)
delicious to see Mordaunt go.
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:11 (one year ago)
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:08 (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this was fake news :(
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:14 (one year ago)
My MP was truly excellent. Hardest working MP I have known by far in almost 40 years living in this constituency (once upon a time we had George Galloway!) I voted for her despite having no love for the SNP. She lost to an old school Scottish Labour fuck brought back from cryogenic storage. So depressing! Scotland regresses.
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:15 (one year ago)
it's hilarious that Galloway didn't even turn up at Rochdale because he's a sorearsed loser!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:20 (one year ago)
"Thangam absolutely crushed"
her copium was so amusing as far back as a month ago when she was polling 13pts behind the greens
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:23 (one year ago)
It’s got to the stage where I’m barely blinking as people like Coffey and Mercer getter chop.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:25 (one year ago)
most devastating thing is streeting only winning his seat by 500 votes
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:26 (one year ago)
“get the chop” NOT DRUNK
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:27 (one year ago)
Leics South here. I knew something was up when I got a "plz vote Labour" leaflet thru my door in the afternoon, their exit polls must have scared them
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:27 (one year ago)
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:26 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
20ppt drop
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:29 (one year ago)
fuck, we so nearly did it
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:32 (one year ago)
wait who came second (not that it matters)
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:33 (one year ago)
oh yes a similar deal to Shockat
yeah pro-palestine independent campaigning against nhs privatisation
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:35 (one year ago)
aww
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:38 (one year ago)
Sunak and Hunt hold their seats
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:41 (one year ago)
Clear that Labour has, in the words of one source, "haemorrhaged" Muslim votes. Wes Streeting only just hangs on. Worried whispers about Birmingham Ladywood and Blackburn.— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) July 5, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:43 (one year ago)
Yardley not called yet, would love it if Babs got dumped!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:47 (one year ago)
Hunt almost sounding like he wants to defect!
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:49 (one year ago)
Which big name Cons are still undeclared? Can only think of Rees-Mogg. Braverman Badenoch and Hunt are the biggest survivors I think.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:52 (one year ago)
oh yes Blackburn + Dewsbury + Batley gone to independents
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:55 (one year ago)
Oh, Jenrick got through, missed that.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:56 (one year ago)
I'm just glad my local mp is not some corporate creepazoid parachuted in by McSweeney
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 03:58 (one year ago)
Andrea Jenkyns lost her seat
Cleverly and Patel results still to come
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 03:58 (one year ago)
Rees Mogg out
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:01 (one year ago)
We can all take that at least.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:01 (one year ago)
My boy went outside for a spliff at just the wrong moment.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:03 (one year ago)
Then again, he’s not really missing much.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:04 (one year ago)
I'm more concerned about these evil cunts who are forming the next government. The shallow support and failure of some of the pro-genocide cowards and corporate parachutees is at least a warning to them that this is a fragile majority.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 04:06 (one year ago)
Greens win third seat in North Herefordshire!
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:08 (one year ago)
Oh, Starmer’s Secret London Location is the Turbine Hall.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:09 (one year ago)
weird speech from SKSQC
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 5 July 2024 04:09 (one year ago)
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Leanne Mohamad looked really impressive. Shame people elected that turd for the last time.
BREAKING: Labour have lost a further two seats to pro-Gaza Independent Candidates.Blackburn and Dewsbury and Batley.The party has already lost Leicester South.Birmingham Ladywood also looking tight.— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:10 (one year ago)
lots of white people waving flags
― koogs, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:10 (one year ago)
Fuck, sigh.
Jess Phillips has held on by 700 votes in Birmingham Yardley.— Sam Freedman (@Samfr) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:12 (one year ago)
ohh no way, fuck off!
I knew they were going to lose B+D but not as heavily as they did, the parachuted-in Labour creep only got 20 odd % loool
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 04:12 (one year ago)
Awesome.
Thank you Coventry South ❤️I am honoured beyond words to be re-elected to Parliament — now with a 10,201 vote majority.I will continue to use my voice to fight for social justice, for peace and equality, and for a better future for us all.— Zarah Sultana (@zarahsultana) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:13 (one year ago)
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:14 (one year ago)
woah!
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:14 (one year ago)
Crikey. Every focus group we've done in the area suggests Wes is hugely popular, so I think this really does show that Labour have a bigger problem on the left - driven by Gaza than we thought. https://t.co/w26nAg2sd3— Luke Tryl (@LukeTryl) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:15 (one year ago)
Fiona Bruce wandering round the Turbine Hall like a lost soul, you’d think she’d have a crew.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:15 (one year ago)
Lol omg
🚨 Shadow Cabinet minister Jonathan Ashworth has LOST his seat to pro-Gaza independent Shockat Adam⚪️ Adam 35.2% (+35.2)🔴 LAB 32.9% (-35.3)🔵 CON 11.5% (-10.3)🟢 GRN 9.1% (+5.8)🟣 REF 5.9% (+3.6)🟠 LD 3.4% (-0.9) pic.twitter.com/BVrwW3wThE— Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️⚧️ (@LeftieStats) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:17 (one year ago)
there's three seats that labour's lost to pro-palestine independents so far (not including corbyn), shame streeting and phillips didn't lose too though but surely next time?
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:19 (one year ago)
Yeah they are cooked surely
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:20 (one year ago)
Streeting gave a weird interview just before I went to sleep. Totally explains it as he knew it was tight.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:21 (one year ago)
couldn't have happened to nicer people, two of them prominent frontbenchers who were set for cabinet positions.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 04:21 (one year ago)
Can't enjoy this at all.
RESULT Suffolk Coastal:Thérèse COFFEY - Conservative 14,602Julian CUSACK - Green 4,380Julia EWART - Liberal Democrat 6,947Matthew JACKSON - Reform UK 7,850Jenny RIDDELL-CARPENTER - Labour 15,672 *ELECTED*Labour GAIN from ConservativeTotal votes cast 49,636Turnout 66.6%— East Suffolk Council (@EastSuffolk) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:26 (one year ago)
Mogg, Morduant, Mercer. Just feeling zilch.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:28 (one year ago)
Waveney Valley the remaining seat I'm most interested in I think. If the Greens could somehow have as many MPs as Reform that'd be a small thing
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:30 (one year ago)
Man Faiza would've won.
Reminder that people do notice when you fuck around with candidate selections to try and get your pals in. https://t.co/TU5II9h8wx— Simon (@simonk133) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:31 (one year ago)
Lammy, Streeting, Reeves - just as despicably evil as any of them
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 04:32 (one year ago)
Turnout is a fucking disgrace. What a sham.
Likely this will be the lowest turnout in record #GeneralElection2024 pic.twitter.com/ATBARUBMEj— Mubin Haq (@Mubin_Haq) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:33 (one year ago)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Yup
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:34 (one year ago)
great news!
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:34 (one year ago)
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:35 (one year ago)
it looks like the greens could have won more if they'd campaigned more broadly given the margins they've been winning by, but i get why they didn't
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:35 (one year ago)
Weirdoes like Fabricant gone as Tory vote has merely gone to sleep..
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:37 (one year ago)
Yes, Waveney Valley declared. Will allow myself to feel a tiny tiny bit chuffed. Good party man me
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:38 (one year ago)
lowest ever turnout where i am.
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:39 (one year ago)
They are not that far from Lib Dems and briefcase Lab in terms of strategy and not convinced they will tap onto things as climate events pile on. Something a lot, lot better is going to be needed, electorally.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:41 (one year ago)
That's fair, but I'd say it's noticeable that the Green messaging has been a lot less melty than the last couple of times
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:43 (one year ago)
Awesome. If this sham of a democracy had even thousands like him it would save this racist hell hole
Tonight, we made history. This is just the beginning. pic.twitter.com/tY1MdOAsjY— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:44 (one year ago)
Oh, Liz Truss still to come too. Had forgotten about her!
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:47 (one year ago)
Sadly this is our future. Lab run by Accenture...
All the odds were stacked against Jeremy Corbyn.He’s one of the only independents to win a competitive election in a general election since World War II.He started his campaign late because of loyalty to his old party. His constituency has a huge turnover.Labour threw…— Owen Jones (@OwenJones84) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:47 (one year ago)
xp: Preston said she will lose but he's an idiot so..
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:48 (one year ago)
Peston
He would have been one of the only independents to win if there weren't a bunch of others this time! Maybe they should team up. Still so sad about the Streeting challenger
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:49 (one year ago)
Liam Fox out. I'd kind of forgotten about him altogether
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:51 (one year ago)
my outside impression is that the gpew, while still nowhere near as solid as the australian greens, have gotten their act together a bit more in recent years and were more directly positioning themselves to the left of labour than they have in the past?
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:53 (one year ago)
BBC ignoring Corbyn's speech (several tweets plus a post here talking about this) and going to Farage's speech is so our present. Maybe our future too
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:53 (one year ago)
This is fucking brutal.
Jeremy Corbyn received over than 5,000 more votes in Islington North than Keir Starmer received in Holborn and St Pancras.— James Schneider (@schneiderhome) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:54 (one year ago)
loathe to defend the BBC but they did go back and show his speech. x post
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:55 (one year ago)
get it right up ye Douglas Ross
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 5 July 2024 04:56 (one year ago)
I saw that too, but I think in the moment it would feel sad and symbolic of the amount of oxygen given to that creature xp
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:57 (one year ago)
Faiza Shaheen looks ready to incinerate someone with the power of her stare alone— Stefan Bielik (@prstskrzkrk) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 04:59 (one year ago)
agree.
and yes get it right up ye Douglas Ross indeed. glorious! x post
― stirmonster, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:00 (one year ago)
Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott now father and mother of the house
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:05 (one year ago)
philip davis also gone. Sadly replaced by some Lab cunt
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:06 (one year ago)
Faiza Shaheen kept IDS in his seat. So congrats on that.— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) July 5, 2024
crazy guy
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:09 (one year ago)
Reading about NI politics and..
The story of the night in Northern Ireland has to be the defeat of Ian Paisley in North Antrim, a seat held by the Paisley family since 1970 1/— Mark Devenport (@markdevenport) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:09 (one year ago)
SF the biggest party now
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:11 (one year ago)
Green do have some non-melts. They will surge even more in inner cities.
🥈 2nd in Lewisham North. 📊 21.9% of total vote share. 🥀 38% of Labours vote. 📈 16.6% increase in Green vote share.💪🏼 More votes than the Tories, Lib Dems, Reform, Workers, AGS, Communist & Indi combined.✅ Most Green votes ever. 💚 Biggest Green vote share ever. https://t.co/G43NzoTupq— Adam Pugh (@AdamPugh) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:13 (one year ago)
Who are the 2000+ voters choosing the Green over Corbyn? Was that candidate really more progressive then Jezza - what am I missing?
― Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:15 (one year ago)
There absolutely won't be any. The collapse of the focus group will go hand in hand with the collapse of the state.
There have been 4 pro-Gaza Independent candidates elected so far. The same number as Reform MPs. That's big and totally unexpected. It deserves coverage and analysis.— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:15 (one year ago)
Man so close.
Wes Streeting asked on @bbc5live ‘how did a 23 year old independent give you a scare’. He couldn’t even congratulate @LeanneMohamad on her fantastic campaign, instead saying there was a ‘dirty’ and ‘ugly’ campaign. Horrible person. Let’s make sure Leanne kicks him out next time.— Ahmed Sewehli (@LibyanIntegrity) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:18 (one year ago)
Greens hold on in Brighton Pavilion, so that is 4 seat now.
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:18 (one year ago)
Clue might be in their name!
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:19 (one year ago)
Indeed.
NEW: Sinn Fein are officially the largest Westminster party in Northern Ireland - 2 more seats to declare in NI but DUP cannot now win as many or more seats than SF. This a historic hat trick for SF (local, Stormont, Westminster).— Beth Rigby (@BethRigby) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:22 (one year ago)
Labour a massive beneficiary of the first past the post system this election cycle - two thirds of the seats on only one third of the vote. So many seats they would have lost under any kind of preferential voting system.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:23 (one year ago)
You'd have more melty greens and Reform racists!
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:25 (one year ago)
But there are joys.
Scenes of jubilance and despair at the count pic.twitter.com/q6ziAAyi3o— Priyanka Raval (@PriyRaval) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:27 (one year ago)
And no independents xpost
― Mark G, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:29 (one year ago)
Look at this cunt, lying she voted for a ceasefire.
Labour Party candidate Thangam shouts at a resident over a question about selling arms to Israel at the Bristol central hustings https://t.co/dBZgrZJadp pic.twitter.com/qt4fsDItOn— Danica Priest🍃💚🍃 (@DanicaPriest) July 1, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:30 (one year ago)
ha ha, great reaction shot, I'll have a pint of thangham bitter pls
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:30 (one year ago)
Jeremy Corbyns acceptance speech in Islington North pic.twitter.com/lOXXpMWS2z— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:41 (one year ago)
His voice cracking with emotion at the "I owe my life and my learning to the people"...is what we could've had.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:44 (one year ago)
Truss appears not to have turned up to her vote count
― Alba, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:44 (one year ago)
fucked off to bed around half one, i guess these results are marginally more pleasant than anticipated
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:45 (one year ago)
Truss gone
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:49 (one year ago)
Did Galloway retain his seat?
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 05:54 (one year ago)
nope, and he flounced off in a huff as soon as he'd found out he'd lost
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:57 (one year ago)
probably pissed up somewhere blaming the transes as we speak
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 05:59 (one year ago)
This is very enjoyable too. Fuck this transphobe
Joanna Cherry - one of the highest-profile SNP MPs - has lost the Edinburgh South West seat which she had held since 2015. https://t.co/ONKBE5Fsop pic.twitter.com/neWlICUU8I— BBC Scotland News (@BBCScotlandNews) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 06:01 (one year ago)
the repellent slimeball Jonathan Ashworth losing has really pleased me. In '19 he was undermining Corbyn to journos during the election campaign and now he realises the nice majority he enjoyed un JC didn't happen because voters liked him.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 06:11 (one year ago)
un= under
All votes verified in Islington North. Turnout = 67.5 %— Isabel Loubser (@isabel__loubser) July 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 06:16 (one year ago)
This is the bizarre interview from earlier. He was shitting himself.
prepare for the longest nautical metaphor you’ll hear today pic.twitter.com/GMb7LwqgyF— Scott Bryan (@scottygb) July 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 06:23 (one year ago)
Cunt will he eyeing a safe seat in five years time.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 06:24 (one year ago)
Easy peasy for Corbz, it's Bobby Gillespie's endorsement what won it.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 5 July 2024 06:43 (one year ago)
classic liz truss
― mookieproof, Friday, 5 July 2024 06:52 (one year ago)
In Starmer's speech he mentioned the country coming before the party a couple of times and spent the rest it talking about the Labour Party. This guy won't last till the next election.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 5 July 2024 06:54 (one year ago)
D E M O C R A C Y
John Curtice: Labour's vote share is "up by just under 2% across the UK. This is entirely as a result of a 19% increase in support in Scotland. In Wales, the party's vote has actually fallen back by 4%, while in England it is largely unchanged on 2019." https://t.co/JUyoAgMbi7— Jon Stone (@joncstone) July 5, 2024
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 5 July 2024 06:55 (one year ago)
all this tells you is corbyn could have scraped into downing street in 2019 if the brexit party hadn't stood down in half the country https://t.co/le2SDuxMJz— joolsd (@joolsd) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 06:56 (one year ago)
I've been thinking the same.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 5 July 2024 06:59 (one year ago)
Follow up post from that account is pretty good too
"reform/BP whatever were counting on at least one election like this where they absolutely blow up the right in parliament. their financial backers were genuinely afraid of corbyn so delayed it to this election. pretty simple really"
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 07:02 (one year ago)
The more you dig into the stats for this election the more it's LOL British democracy.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 5 July 2024 07:19 (one year ago)
Kieth fans keep telling me how unpopular Corbyn was
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 07:40 (one year ago)
With 9 seats to call Labour were still down 600k votes on 2019!
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 5 July 2024 07:41 (one year ago)
i'm hearing it's about quality voters not quantity
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 07:46 (one year ago)
Turned on the TV this morning and within 5 mins 3 different labour bods used the phrase "country before party". Turned off the TV.
― oscar bravo, Friday, 5 July 2024 07:48 (one year ago)
This is going to be a nice quotable stat, "you were down half a million votes on 2019, the only reason you won is that Reform/Brexit Party and tories didn't enter into a pact this time" - surely very easy for most people to understand?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 07:48 (one year ago)
6 Seats to Go
Labour 420Con 119LD 71SNP 9Sinn Fein 7OTHER 28 - Including:
4 Reform4 Greens5 pro-Gaza Independent Left candidates have now been elected.
Shockat Adam MP for Leicester SouthIqbal Mohammed MP for Dewsbury and BatleyAdnan Hussain MP for BlackburnJeremy Corbyn MP for Islington NorthAyoub Khan MP for Birmingham Perry Bar
closest prediction was:
New Statesman / Britian Elects
― djmartian, Friday, 5 July 2024 07:51 (one year ago)
correction
labour 410
― djmartian, Friday, 5 July 2024 07:52 (one year ago)
and in Wales:
4 Plaid Cymru MPS
and no Tory MPS in Wales
― djmartian, Friday, 5 July 2024 07:55 (one year ago)
Tell anyone: Corbyn nearly won, against Theresa May.
There were a lot of things going wrong for TM, she wasn't directly responsible for most of it but she handled everything badly. People don't want that.
Anyway, next election Labour pretty much ran their campaign the same way, but Tories aren't daft as now they had a better idea how to work against.
Just as much as it's a fool who does the same thing twice expecting a different result, it's just as bad a football team who won 2-0 playing the same team a week later expecting the same again.
Anyway, had a decent kip, seeing a bunch of highpoints is nice, but etc etc laters...
― Mark G, Friday, 5 July 2024 07:56 (one year ago)
BBC's coverage of this landslide victory for Reform has been excellent
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 07:59 (one year ago)
So, Ben Walker was the most accurate pollster.
Co-Founder of @BritainElects. Senior Data Journalist for the @NewStatesman
https://x.com/BNHWalker
― djmartian, Friday, 5 July 2024 08:08 (one year ago)
9,650,254 votes. dismal stuff
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 5 July 2024 08:12 (one year ago)
reminder, of some of the ghastly Tory MPs gone:
Some Tory MPs who lost tonight:Liz TrussGillian KeeganMichelle DonelanPenny MordauntJohnny MercerMark HarperAlex ChalkMark HarperLucy FrazerJacob Rees-MoggJonathan GullisBrendan Clarke-SmithAndrea JenkynsPhillip DaviesMiriam CatesGreg HandsMark Jenkinson— Sam Freedman (@Samfr) July 5, 2024
― djmartian, Friday, 5 July 2024 08:16 (one year ago)
On that exit poll.
And kudos to @JoeCaluori, who was brave enough to call bullshit on the exit poll forecast of 13 Reform seats at 10.07pm last night pic.twitter.com/7ApoFC51WT— Dan Hancox (@danhancox) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 08:16 (one year ago)
scorecard* LAB majority (395 v CON 165?) - a half point since the CON did get triple digits* SNP better than predicted (30-33?) - NOPE * corbyn hold - YES* debonnaire loss - LOL* sunak hold - YES* shaheen loss + IDS loss - half point* farage win - YES* truss hold - NO* turnout lower than 2010 - LOL* LAB votes lower than 2019 👀 2017 - LOL
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 5 July 2024 08:21 (one year ago)
it's now possible to travel from Eastbourne to Berwick without going through a single tory seat.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 08:23 (one year ago)
I think everyone said "They're not getting twelve!"
― Mark G, Friday, 5 July 2024 08:36 (one year ago)
just realised Gomez cunt and Blur cunt both failed, today just keeps getting better
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 08:40 (one year ago)
Also Posie Parker didn't even get 200 votes
Captain Beany - 618 votesKing Arthur Pendragon - 458 votesCount Binface - 308 votesPosie Parker - 196 votesYes these are all real, British politics is madBeans remain more popular than transphobia. Absolutely embarrassing result for Kellie-Jay "I never lose" Keen-Minshull pic.twitter.com/zzWU5vu0am— Katy Montgomerie 🦗 (@KatyMontgomerie) July 5, 2024
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 09:06 (one year ago)
ladies and gentlemen:
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― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 09:17 (one year ago)
would love to have seen Chris Philp on the exit listhttps://www.swlondoner.co.uk/news/05072024-croydon-south-surprise-election
― pfutt, Friday, 5 July 2024 09:59 (one year ago)
Guess it's time for a new UK pol thread
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 10:05 (one year ago)
is it though
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 10:06 (one year ago)
PM Cameron in Witney - no longer a Conservative seatPM May in Maidenhead - no longer a Conservative seatPM Johnson in Uxbridge & Ruislip - no longer a Conservative seat PM Truss in SW Norfolk - no longer a Conservative seatAstonishing. The most telling stat of the night— Peter Frankopan (@peterfrankopan) July 5, 2024
― djmartian, Friday, 5 July 2024 10:08 (one year ago)
Sunak's resigned as leader of the Tory Party. I don't know what the make up of the party is now, I know the Red Wall MPs have been blown and most of them seem to have been far right wankers, but I expect the new leader will be done right wing horror like Badenoch or Braverman.
― Blood On Santa's Claw (Tom D.), Friday, 5 July 2024 10:56 (one year ago)
blown away, that is
― SPENGE (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 5 July 2024 10:57 (one year ago)
The usual idiocy.
Starmer won, using the available electoral system, by making himself the acceptable PM candidate for a vast anti-Tory coalition. It doesn't vibe like a presidential mandate but nor is it simply expressed by the 34% Lab share.— Rafael Behr (@rafaelbehr) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 11:26 (one year ago)
The vast anti - Tory coalition, where 40% of the electorate didn't bother.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 11:27 (one year ago)
I'm not mad. No not at all. Please do not put in the newspaper that I am mad. https://t.co/Orn0etJvKM— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 11:32 (one year ago)
big moment for melts soon as Kieth does his speech and reveals he's going to rebuild the welfare state, nationalise utilities and rejoin the EU
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 11:33 (one year ago)
is number 10 big enough for Mr and Mrs Kieth to have separate bedrooms?
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 11:36 (one year ago)
Some terrible thread titles I put before you for the new era:Too bad the left don't do it for ya - ukpol in the Starmer eraBaby, the Starm slides right
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 12:19 (one year ago)
no wedding ring, even fewer policies: UKpol in the era of sir kieth starmtrooper QC
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 5 July 2024 12:29 (one year ago)
Fucking idiot.
The problem here is that it's an issue where the government has next to no power to do anything about it https://t.co/GyqNpRa5MN— Alex Harrowell (@yorksranter) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 12:31 (one year ago)
He’s been terrible for a long time
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 12:35 (one year ago)
This brigade of technocrats will spend the next five years making excuses for Starmer
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 12:48 (one year ago)
if we can get "Llama Harmer" into the thread title I'd enjoy seeing that every day.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 12:51 (one year ago)
Torygraph writer's reaction to British voters exercising the few rights they have: deport them to where they came from.
Here's what Sam Ashworth-Hayes said for those that weren't up at 6.30 in the morning.. pic.twitter.com/TQFO9vpbUh— Samantha Asumadu (@SamanthaAsumadu) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 13:57 (one year ago)
Amazing clip. Osborne and Balls having a great time, ofc
It’s odd to see everything wrong with the country and the media in such a short clip but here it is. pic.twitter.com/tWFMTsVdh5— Chłoddy (@OfSymbols) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 14:01 (one year ago)
New thread title? We have plenty of material to work with
"One of the great strengths of our nation is to navigate away to calmer waters." Very nice. The whole speech is very nice.— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 14:26 (one year ago)
karma waters and small boats
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 5 July 2024 14:27 (one year ago)
Did anyone else read that Dunt tweet in Borat's voice?
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 5 July 2024 14:34 (one year ago)
I think Kier is going to find the waters anything but calm
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 14:39 (one year ago)
Feel quite disconnected, as even a load of my very left-wing friends are celebrating getting the Tories out. Trying to concentrate on Corbyn and the Green wins, but then that just gets me mad that I keep seeing Farage on telly despite Reform not getting more seats than Greens or Independents. Gaaaaaah.
Maybe I should partake of some blissed-out centrism and join the party?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qd5bz6_blw
― emil.y, Friday, 5 July 2024 15:15 (one year ago)
made a short video of some of the memories we made this summer ❤️ pic.twitter.com/xlkp7JtLHw— ian mighty (@iammightor) July 5, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:24 (one year ago)
I am happy to celebrate the tories being fucked, just for today, even the weekend. Add a little spice lolling at melts being furious about Corbyn. Then on Monday I'll get properly down to hating the lot of them.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:27 (one year ago)
jess phillips redemption arc: corbs plus the four other gazan independents form an actual new named party*, JP resigns the labour whip and crosses the floor to join it**
*or did they already do this? it seems like an obvious move but perhaps they are not close except on the one issue? **ok this is just banter heuristic on my part but there may be other lab MPs genuinely prepared to do this? (tbh i actually have no real idea abt its practicability or desirability)
― mark s, Friday, 5 July 2024 15:28 (one year ago)
when there is an inquest into how they lost Islington N despite throwing everything at it, it will conclude that Corbyn was badly trailing in the polling and on course to lose - until Paul Mason turned up, uninvited.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:31 (one year ago)
It does feel weird, I can't remember a previous time in my life when the Tories getting kicked out has felt so empty and meaningless. Even 97 felt good for a few days.
What i see ahead tho is everything broken being entrenched, or given over to private finance, all overseen by corrupt authoritarian narcissists at least as vile as the previous incumbents. So yeah I don't think I'll catch Starmer Fever cheers
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:34 (one year ago)
You don’t think baggymp was a vote winner?
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:35 (one year ago)
Procession of grotesques turning up in Islington yday must have helped Crumhorn
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:37 (one year ago)
Imagine opening your door and seeing Paul Mason’s face about an inch away from yours? You’d vote for whoever he wasn’t supporting. Jokes aside, I’m not shocked remotely that their campaigning pictures aren’t from the poorer parts of the constituency.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:43 (one year ago)
Labour candidate was the invisible man, even refused to talk to the local press - admittedly a hotbed of old school lefties.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:44 (one year ago)
The thing about Corbyn is his support in the constituency is firmly with working class voters in a complete reversal of how his support is caricatured by right wing wankers.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:47 (one year ago)
I just feel like the more Mason tries to ingratiate himself with Starmer Labour - the more they dislike and distrust him and it's clear they consider him an untrustworthy joke character and the die is cast.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:47 (one year ago)
i mean he is an untrustworthy joke character tbf
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:49 (one year ago)
of course they are otm, it's quite funny because he was one of the most enthusiastic early Starmer adopters (from before 2019 GE) and he hasn't achieved anything from it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:51 (one year ago)
People can laugh but getting nearly 35% of the vote is pretty good going for a complete cunt
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:01 (one year ago)
mason has achieved an impressive string of personal and professional humiliations tbfftl
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:12 (one year ago)
Just thinking about how Starmer will handle the number of crises that will beset his government and it is literally impossible to imagine him reacting in any fashion other than the most craven, terrified path available to him, it's so depressing
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:13 (one year ago)
https://i.imgur.com/RNVzksc.jpeg
reform should have stood down in north durham
― conrad, Friday, 5 July 2024 16:14 (one year ago)
why was he still going on about “the party has changed” in his victory address? you won bro. you won the party ages ago. you’re talking to the country now. move on. still mugging to his labour right handlers at that point… not a promising sign
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:16 (one year ago)
haven't seen a single poll suggest anybody voted for them "because they've changed"
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:18 (one year ago)
I saw plenty polls where GTTO polled the highest, that's how you cheaply surrender your vote to a fraud.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:21 (one year ago)
This one turned out to be... pretty unscientific https://t.co/t7MOdFENbk— Joe Skeaping (@JSkeaping) July 5, 2024
lol, and unsurprisingly this guy has spent today mocking the left for failing to understand the electoral dynamics at work behind the result. This particular result does feel like it hits a precise unsweet spot of not being a good enough result for Labour to destroy the Tories and give us a laugh, but also not bad enough for any of this lot to realise there may be some lessons to learn here.
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:22 (one year ago)
CHANGE
Rachel Reeves: 'There's not a huge amount of money' https://t.co/qHSaToLwhL— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) July 5, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:25 (one year ago)
As in pocket change
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 July 2024 16:32 (one year ago)
can we please stop these childish lies? there is as much money as the government wants there to be. there’s not like an “amount” lying around in a fucking shoebox
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:33 (one year ago)
honestly these kitchen table analogies are analogous with climate denialism, they are made deliberately to deceive
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:35 (one year ago)
analagalagalangal
it's possible on some level the likes of Reeves are stupid enough to believe this shit is objectively true somehow but on the other hand they've also got nothing but contempt for the electorate, as have their chums in the media, so i'm not expecting this story to get challenged ever
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:36 (one year ago)
Rachel Reeves: 'There's not a huge amount of money political will'
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:38 (one year ago)
there we go, ty
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:39 (one year ago)
Liz Kendall's got Work & Pensions so another bunch of people will die i guess
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:52 (one year ago)
jesus christ
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:55 (one year ago)
My humble suggestion for a clever thread title is “cunts: uk politics in the starmer (cunt) era”
― subpost master (wins), Friday, 5 July 2024 16:56 (one year ago)
the really really cuntish cunts (?) have a 5th MP, putting them ahead of the Nice Well-Meaning Clean Energy Sorts Wot I Voted For, which is a petty annoyance but an annoyance nonetheless
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 16:59 (one year ago)
tbh there's little cunt difference between Reform and probably about a good quarter of the PLP yes yes
― imago, Friday, 5 July 2024 17:01 (one year ago)
bad news for the defence and trident budgets, I fear
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 5 July 2024 17:09 (one year ago)
What can you do, the money isn’t there
― subpost master (wins), Friday, 5 July 2024 17:10 (one year ago)
the thing about begging money from the banks for investment
where did the banks get all that money
― conrad, Friday, 5 July 2024 17:13 (one year ago)
Don't worry guys private equity will come to the rescue
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 17:15 (one year ago)
Reform beat Labour in Basildon South & Thurrock by 98 votes
― nashwan, Friday, 5 July 2024 17:30 (one year ago)
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 17:33 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Someone has forgotten that Starmer has changed the Labour Party
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 5 July 2024 17:59 (one year ago)
This particular result does feel like it hits a precise unsweet spot of not being a good enough result for Labour to destroy the Tories and give us a laugh, but also not bad enough for any of this lot to realise there may be some lessons to learn here.
plenty of labour right types appear very bitter about labour barely getting a swing, corbyn getting more votes both elections, corbyn getting re-elected, greens & pro-palestine independents getting quite a few seats, etc. so while i don't think they're going to learn any lessons, it's not what they were hoping for either
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 21:38 (one year ago)
there appears to be at least room for some cautious, mild optimism on the left given the unexpected successes so good luck to whoever's going to try to organise that into a broader project
the more i think about it the more i like the "copy la france insoumise" strategy— joolsd (@joolsd) July 5, 2024
-ignore the threeway lab/con/ref bunfight over racist voters-go for urban areas where the labour vote is now clearly soft as blancmange-make an exception for, eg, farage's seat: put up someone impressive/charismatic to oppose from the left where labour obviously will be absent— joolsd (@joolsd) July 5, 2024
and as an extra, maybe see about some kind of deal with the greens for some places? get bristol/norwich north/random rural seats while possible, aim for like... 30-odd red-green MPs next parliament?— joolsd (@joolsd) July 5, 2024
like this seems like a genuine path forward for the left - will anyone actually be able to put any of that together though is of course a completely separate question
― ufo, Friday, 5 July 2024 21:56 (one year ago)
telling the truth is the old politics
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 July 2024 22:22 (one year ago)
Wow Rachel reeves really had her hair done for election night!
― plax (ico), Friday, 5 July 2024 22:25 (one year ago)
That thread is pretty good UFO.
For now, I think Ainsowrth getting the boot was the only bit of pleasure I had out of the election
Having a drink, thinking about Jonathan Ashworth. Who last week spoke so freely about sending refugees back on planes. Who must have thought he'd vanquished the left & anti imperialists and who was already eyeing up his ministerial car and privileges. Have a drink to his demise.— SC Cook (@s__cook) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2024 22:30 (one year ago)
Can't even be bothered with his name. May he rot.
@jeremycorbyn praises Harriet Harman, Tom Watson and Peter Mandelson for their help in getting him elected in Islington North pic.twitter.com/AwqT9N3Tqm— j (@jrc1921) July 5, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 July 2024 23:03 (one year ago)
Love it
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 5 July 2024 23:07 (one year ago)
I don't see a La France Insoumise strategy working unless the voting system is charged. You'd just end up splitting the non-tory vote like in Chingford.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 5 July 2024 23:57 (one year ago)
in the same way that the pro-palestine independents split the vote? the seats that strategy would be targeting are not ones where there's any real risk of
chingford was entirely self-inflicted by labour anyway and they seem quite happy with that.
― ufo, Saturday, 6 July 2024 00:26 (one year ago)
*of splitting the anti-tory vote
― ufo, Saturday, 6 July 2024 00:27 (one year ago)
bad appointments: reeves, benn, cooper, streeting, kendall, boles (! mooted this morning), ian fkn murraycould maybe be good / juries out: timpson, miliband, hermer
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Saturday, 6 July 2024 09:09 (one year ago)
can't help feeling some of the first wave of appointees are gonna have a real limited shelf life
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 09:17 (one year ago)
richard seymour in nlr: "Few governments have been this fragile coming into office. There will be no honeymoon” (seymour he also uses the phrase "fractal pluripotencies of the age", which i think i wd have put a big red question mark by if editing)
james butler in lrb: "The campaign was trivial. Neither party addressed the £20 billion of cuts to unprotected public services baked into current spending. The primary mode was assertion" (butler by contrast deploys mark s-attested word "zugwang")
― mark s, Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:04 (one year ago)
"fractal pluripotencies"
I'll do anything for pseud, but I won't do that
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:10 (one year ago)
I kinda like it tbh
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:19 (one year ago)
Mainly because of the echo with "plenipotentiaries" I think
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:20 (one year ago)
i didn't know what the pluri-word meant!
and now that i've looked it up (something to do with the capacity for a basic biological cell to develop in many different ways) i still don't really know what seymour has in mind!
― mark s, Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:22 (one year ago)
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 5 July 2024 bookmarkflaglink
This is about picking up the pieces after Lab and their politics are long gone. It will be an angry country after they are done with it.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:23 (one year ago)
I haven't figured out which public services are in the unprotected category yet, might need to research this because "unprotected" could apply to vitally important services.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:24 (one year ago)
I don't see anything left but vital services now, partly because each individual surviving service has to pick up all the slack and damage from the stuff that no longer exists, stretching everything ever thinner
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:26 (one year ago)
no doubt this conundrum will keep Liz Kendall awake at night and she will be massively motivated to improve this situation with her preternatural ability to make difficult decisions, without a 2nd fucking thought.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:40 (one year ago)
well not really her brief but same applies to her dept
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:42 (one year ago)
The backgrounds of Labour candidates were hardly probed, yet alongside the strong representation of charities and NGOs, the lobbying industry practically has its own party grouping; it would be canny to bet on lobbying as the focus of the first scandal of the Starmer years.
not SKSKC’s extra-marital pluripotencies… ?
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:50 (one year ago)
he does like pluripotencies of titties and booze tbf!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:53 (one year ago)
Trotskyite Taliban rubbish is the future. Lead, follow, or get out of the way. https://t.co/3tNrRTvMFk— Don Hughes (@getfiscal) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:57 (one year ago)
Slightly irritates me when shitpost Twitter engages with these douchebags at all tbh but since it's in the thread I have, of course, seen Crombone congratulate Labour several times since yesterday
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 11:24 (one year ago)
Which is one of his Achilles's heels as any non-douche know
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 11:25 (one year ago)
Oh Don is so funny, what else can you but take the piss.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 July 2024 11:51 (one year ago)
There will be crumbs like this. It won't last long but cost pressures will mean silly rubbish like Rwanda, and some temporary scaling back on locking ppl up is a minor positive.
Liberal prison reform is fundamentally not the answer to anything and is a proven mechanism to expand the carceral system. However, as a shift away from law'n'order posturing this is notable and if Timpson can exert any influence that sees fewer people locked up that will be good https://t.co/wtIPSCTg6n— Artificial Inelegance (@MediocreDave) July 6, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 July 2024 11:53 (one year ago)
Is this working backwards from "this will be terrible"? Or I guess is it working backwards from "this will be terrible (malign)" or "this will be terrible (incompetent)"?
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 6 July 2024 11:57 (one year ago)
This guy sounds far too sensible to last long in this govt but one can hopexpost
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 6 July 2024 12:00 (one year ago)
I just like that he doesn’t want to grind prisoners into soylent
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Saturday, 6 July 2024 12:02 (one year ago)
Yeah its gonna be temporary. There are a complex set of reasons as to why people offend, often to do with social inequalities that need cash and infrastructure and time to flatten.
What that guy offers is sticking plaster xp
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 July 2024 12:03 (one year ago)
If he can slow the march toward maximum incarceration in private facilities a la the USA that will be a good thing in itself
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 6 July 2024 12:23 (one year ago)
I read it that we're in a world of many possibilities, each of which may contain more within - some of which I'd guess may be the possibilities of necessity that Alphie sometimes vibes with: "We'll have to to do something new, right?"
Word of the two articles was Butler's accidie (spiritual or mental sloth; apathy), though points to Seymour for having a go with farraginous (consisting of a confused mixture : formed of various materials in no fixed order or arrangement)
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 6 July 2024 12:29 (one year ago)
Partly because this is what happens in new governments, partly because this is how I expect the dynamics of the next phase of the Labour right's domination to play out - you nod towards the broad church briefly and as soon as you feel safe to exhale you go full dictatorship
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 13:04 (one year ago)
I'm guessing it will be very similar to the trajectory of Starmer's path post leadership election: play nice for a few months, signal some nice things, float some radical-ish sounding ideas in the papers to dangle in front of the Dunts and other client journos, and then in about 6 months start with the stuff they really want to do
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 6 July 2024 13:13 (one year ago)
they need this sort of thing for a little while longer yet
Starmer is putting the dignity of labour and class back at the centre of politics.— George Eaton (@georgeeaton) July 5, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 6 July 2024 13:16 (one year ago)
Yeah, we're in the "plausible veneer" phase for a little while longer
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 13:19 (one year ago)
iirc they did hammer out a deal with UNITE? which would probably be hard to row back from? fml that the unions are now considered the progressive wing of the party
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 6 July 2024 13:32 (one year ago)
Party has the power in this situation I think, unions will be reluctant to push their luck early on - largely cos union leaders are sympathetic to melt Labour - so they'll put up with a lot more than they ought to
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 13:50 (one year ago)
if it wasn't for dickhead union tossers like Lynch trying to scaremonger people into only voting Labour - any other option risks a Tory return - all that nonsense. Then Streeting might have been turfed out.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 13:54 (one year ago)
this is the agreement - already watered down, which they wanted to water down further, which Sharon Graham poured scorn on, and got them to reaffirm their commitment to - https://labour.org.uk/updates/stories/a-new-deal-for-working-people/
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 6 July 2024 14:02 (one year ago)
lots of detail here for the wonks but among the biggest changes would be repealing the 2016 Trade Union Act, the 2022 Agencies Regulations, and the 2023 Minimum Service Levels Act (which essentially prohibited public sector union members from striking effectively)
https://labourlist.org/2024/06/new-deal-working-people-labour-trade-unions-general-election-2024/
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 6 July 2024 14:06 (one year ago)
Sharon Graham seems good, but there is so much more at stake than myopic union leaders like Lynch getting fractionally more improved concessions out of Labour than they would Tories for their members. Ohh I'm going to be a real tough negotiator with the Labour govt. But I'll still publicly endorse them every GE and without fail, and keep telling ppl it's the only electoral choice they've got.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 14:09 (one year ago)
As a civil servant I'm not holding my breath for a pay rise or for my job to be less cruel
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 14:12 (one year ago)
fuck my life - I can't even apply for UC because I've already used my mobile phone number to set up my son's UC account. I need a union rep!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 14:16 (one year ago)
Meantime: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/06/the-entire-clown-show-caught-up-with-us-tory-infighting-erupts-after-defeat
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 July 2024 15:11 (one year ago)
https://www.thetimes.com/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F7386f5cc-0f9a-41b9-a8e8-a9c73b5692df.jpg?crop=2180%2C3200%2C0%2C0&resize=618
Liam Booth-Smith, Sunak's chief of staff who has earned a peerage for his part in the clown show. Lol, looks like such a posh tosser, there must be some band featured on ilm that he was involved in.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 15:22 (one year ago)
Calz btw I know this isn't v helpful but make yourself a different email account to your lad and you should be able to make your own claim
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:16 (one year ago)
I've tried with an alt email, system still wont accept the phone number because its already linked to another account. Need to phone them and explain t'other account is someone non-verbal/complex needs and hopefully I'll get someone helpful and in a good mood!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:23 (one year ago)
Yeah you just need to keep calling them until you speak to so someone who knows what they're doing, system is deliberately broke. You can maybe speed it up if you go to your nearest jobcentre in person
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:26 (one year ago)
someone needs to take ian dunt’s phone off him. some of the stuff he has been posting is so undignified
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:53 (one year ago)
Humiliation kink
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:56 (one year ago)
get a load of this fucking dweeb https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6688152fd9d35187868f454f/wes-streeting.jpg
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:58 (one year ago)
It’s been DAYS of that cohort sniping at ‘the Corbynites’ but I suppose if that’s the dopamine hit that most convinces them that those further left are Doing It Wrong.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:59 (one year ago)
when the sequel is 🔥
My new Erotic Review piece, almost entirely on Tony Blair's penis, is here: http://tiny.cc/gv2yz.Unfortunately it's behind a paywall.— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) October 7, 2010
― mark s, Saturday, 6 July 2024 17:13 (one year ago)
Former home secretary Jacqui Smith will join the House of Lords to become higher education minister, Downing Street said.
While Douglas Alexander, who held several cabinet roles in the last Labour government, is now a business minister after returning as an MP for the first time since losing his seat in 2015.
…
Labour are set to bring back Sir Tony Blair’s health secretary Alan Milburn to help reform the NHS, in a sign that the private sector and consumer choice will be at the heart of their plans.
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Sunday, 7 July 2024 08:53 (one year ago)
JOBS JOBS JOBS
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 July 2024 08:57 (one year ago)
i never really understood the consumer choice aspect of any medical treatment. this person doing an ultrasound on my shoulder, how do i know they aren't other people who'd do it better?
though i did once get asked to fill in a review form after having blood taken. would i recommend Hammersmith hospital phlebotomy department to my friends and family?
― koogs, Sunday, 7 July 2024 09:03 (one year ago)
hear me out… uber but for phlebotomy
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Sunday, 7 July 2024 09:11 (one year ago)
one of the new intake of HQ Labour MPs, some little public school shit, could be facing an investigation for distributing child porn. He catfished a minor then outed him by sharing nude pics of him. Harriet Harman will have his back!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 July 2024 09:16 (one year ago)
didn't realise Tom Watson had stood again
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 July 2024 09:17 (one year ago)
A lot of ppl voting Greens in Lab safe seats. Wonder what five years of failure will do to those numbers.
‼️ BREAKING || Greens now in 2nd place in 40 seats. #GE29 pic.twitter.com/FScct0tbze— Green Elects (@GrnElects) July 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 July 2024 09:17 (one year ago)
i have since remembered that i DID get a choice of venue for covid jabs, including the science museum
― koogs, Sunday, 7 July 2024 10:05 (one year ago)
loooottta London there haha
― imago, Sunday, 7 July 2024 10:18 (one year ago)
(happy to have contributed)
i never really understood the consumer choice aspect of any medical treatment. this person doing an ultrasound on my shoulder, how do i know they aren't other people who'd do it better?though i did once get asked to fill in a review form after having blood taken. would i recommend Hammersmith hospital phlebotomy department to my friends and family?― koogs, Sunday, 7 July 2024 7:03 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― koogs, Sunday, 7 July 2024 7:03 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
If it’s anything like the Australian system - After you’ve broken your wrist and it’s 2 in the morning after you’ve been in the public emergency room for 6 hour before they latched you up; they give you a consumer choice, use your (compulsory above average wage) private insurance and see a specialist tomorrow or go on the waiting list and see them in, maybe six weeks.
You see the specialist tomorrow and he tell you he’ll fix you up but your insurance doesn’t cover it all and they’d like an extra 2000 bucks and by the way it just cost you 200 for them to tell you that.
Choice is a wonderful thing.
― Ed, Sunday, 7 July 2024 10:29 (one year ago)
― imago, Sunday, 7 July 2024 bookmarkflaglink
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 July 2024 11:52 (one year ago)
Someone I know voted Green but did say he would vote Lab if it was a Lab Tory marginal so ppl are flakey with this.
The big thing is how long can governments get away with doing nothing wrt climate change, but also not doing anything about privatized utilities, local government and healthcare.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 July 2024 11:57 (one year ago)
Old Lab left WhatsApp going on about how membership has gone up since election. They just love political parties!
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 July 2024 12:12 (one year ago)
*of the greens
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 July 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Fucking hell.
https://twitter.com/twinky_boy69/status/1809549197533737006?s=19
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 July 2024 12:23 (one year ago)
There was polling on this , and if I read it right Greens voting Labour is one of the biggest tactical votes, and without tactical voting Labour's vote goes down https://t.co/Lq9QclqAwk— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) July 6, 2024
― mark s, Sunday, 7 July 2024 12:28 (one year ago)
(i am alone in the world in loving sankey diagrams i know, i just like the look of them!)
hughes may well be right to read this as "actual real greens tactically voting lab to kick out a tory" (i assume he's clicked thru to read the text) but "implied voting intention" vs "actual voting intention" is very opaque labelling,, to me
― mark s, Sunday, 7 July 2024 12:32 (one year ago)
Xpost to Ed
Private health insurance is really not compulsory for people on above average salaries. I don't have it. My brother who is a senior oncologist in a public hospital and earns a lot more money than I do doesn't have it. Yes I know there's extra tax you have to pay if you don't have private health insurance and you're earning above a certain amount. But it's still not going to work out cheaper to go private. And if you have any kind of emergency like a broken wrist, you're always going to be better off in a public hospital.
― Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 7 July 2024 12:41 (one year ago)
(This is in Australia btw)
― Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 7 July 2024 12:42 (one year ago)
Meet the AI politician
has anyone on here spoken about fake Reform candidates?Mark Matlock is not a real person. zoom into the picture.his website, https://t.co/dnsfmaSiRk existed for a short period of time and was taken down post-electionhis twitter, @vote4MarkReform only has pictures of farage pic.twitter.com/UwmlaPb0Cj— Karl Max 🪶📃 (@KarlMaxxed) July 6, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 July 2024 21:33 (one year ago)
Incredible if proven true
Heavily face-tuned Elon
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 7 July 2024 21:38 (one year ago)
no, I do remember signing him during the player spawning period on fm 2007
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 July 2024 21:39 (one year ago)
efficiency is when your vote goes down in marginals
🚨🚨🚨 VOTE EFFICIENCY 🚨🚨🚨Exciting news! In lieu of any hacks actually doing their fucking job, I've looked into the data for the 'vote efficiency' gimmick. Turns out <brace yourselves>... it's a load of bollocks [THREAD]— a dark day for our democracy (@_SRTLW) July 8, 2024
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Monday, 8 July 2024 19:23 (one year ago)
That person doesn't seem to be taking turnout into account, or pattern of votes for other parties in the seats concerned, ie doing calcuations according simply based on Labour votes. And vote efficiency is just a statistical phenomenon - if your seat share is high for the vote share that's efficient per se.
The interesting question for me is whether Labour could have been achieved that without shifting where they did on policy and rhetoric.
Some of us spent the whole period of Corybn's leadership begging and pleading for this issue to be at least thought about, but it wasn't, so we lost massively on a higher overall vote than Starmer's got. The Labour Right understood this issue and have reaped the rewards (2/2).— Jeremy Gilbert (@jemgilbert) July 5, 2024
― Alba, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 07:34 (one year ago)
They got 65% of the seats on a meagre 34% of the vote, so they must have been doing something right.
Across the channel, the far right also got 34% of the vote but got only 25% of the seats. It's incredible to me how much impact the vagaries of voting systems have - far more than actual voters voting.
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 07:55 (one year ago)
Worth mentioning the Lib Dems' 72 seats in all this too though - not all about Labour
― Alba, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 07:59 (one year ago)
Exactly, we won't be hearing much about PR from them for a long time.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 08:06 (one year ago)
Though, they still would have had marginally more seats under PR this time, assuming vote share would stayed the same if people knew they were voting in that system (which it probably wouldn't, but I'd guess it would benefit them further).
― Alba, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 08:23 (one year ago)
I keep seeing HMP Wandsworth trending because of PR, although its Penitentiary Risqué in this case.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 08:47 (one year ago)
An OK thread on why one should be cautious in joining the Greens. One of the comments to that thread was 'yes, let the Greens win in rural areas', and if they were seen as a haven for disaffected leftwingers that task might be harder.
I find it odd to find myself, having been probably more pro-Green than many Corbynites/post-Corbynites, far more sceptical about a mass left influx than many.— Tom Gann (@Tom_Gann) July 8, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 10:35 (one year ago)
Climate change will have a huge impact on agriculture and food prices so the Green vote should grow. I can see a big fight with Reform/Tories for some of that rural vote.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 10:37 (one year ago)
It's already happening, they beat the Tories head to head in North Herefordshire and Suffolk.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 10:48 (one year ago)
Yup that comment was based on those two wins. It is exciting because the Greens, as much as I think a lot of it is Lib Dems in disguise they might be better than either Tories or Lib Dems. Getting these rural Tory voting cunts an alternative to fascism is a positive.
And Green isn't red.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 10:53 (one year ago)
Anyone is better than Lib Dems.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 10:55 (one year ago)
I broadly agree with this. Its one of the reasons I think the greens taking a position on Brexit was a mistake, its something they should have been neutral on
― anvil, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 11:00 (one year ago)
I couldn’t follow that thread at all. Is a dummies version available?
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 12:14 (one year ago)
just saw this hidden gem from the GB News GE night coverage.
GBN presenter, roaming amongst audience: Do you trust Keir Starmer?
squeaky voiced little kid with a mouthful of chickenburger: No! He's a pervert.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 13:12 (one year ago)
def has a kink for locking up protesters
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 13:13 (one year ago)
xpost What else did Laurence Fox say
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 13:56 (one year ago)
that it was a little kid made it objectively hilarious to me, but I think it's mainly being shared by flaggers who think Kieth is a woke commie.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 14:01 (one year ago)
cannot tell if poster calzino is satirising pervert keith's inability to say what is a woman - but that was a woman with a chicken burger, not a kid
― conrad, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 15:04 (one year ago)
oh I was watching it on my phone and thought it was a little kid, lol, it's not funny now
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 15:10 (one year ago)
"He's a prevert!" (Bonus Fugs reference for those in the know).
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 15:13 (one year ago)
If anyone's seen Caitlin Moran's Times column today then we are def seeing an uptick in centrist perversion (yes I am kink-shaming)
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 15:17 (one year ago)
not read anything as vomit-inducing since Edwina Currie was describing getting "hot and sticky" over John Major
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 15:23 (one year ago)
Don't forget Tony on Cherie:"That night she cradled me in her arms and soothed me; told me what I needed to be told; strengthened me ... On that night of 12 May 1994 I needed that love she gave me, selfishly. I devoured it to give me strength. I was an animal following my instinct ... "
― Alba, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 16:50 (one year ago)
thats right
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 17:21 (one year ago)
there it ishttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/08/voter-id-rule-may-have-stopped-400000-taking-part-in-uk-election-poll-suggests
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 17:43 (one year ago)
nbd it’s not even half a mil
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 17:45 (one year ago)
the Labour solution here would be to bring in a mandatory national ID scheme, yipee, no more voter disenfranchisement (once you have permission to leave your house)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 19:18 (one year ago)
Absolutely chilling the shit that Streeting has been saying today
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 19:54 (one year ago)
Friend’s medical imaging company met with WS last year and she says (paraphrasing) he was not what she’d call a serious person.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 19:56 (one year ago)
In 'never happened' newshttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/09/reform-uk-mp-accused-of-mounting-witch-hunt-against-local-teachers
― nashwan, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 21:06 (one year ago)
JOBS
This organisation is so efficient! Ashworth lost his job on Friday, and by Tuesday he had completed the application process, had 2 interviews (as is normal for a role at this level), waited for the organisation's leadership to make a decision, and accepted their job offer! https://t.co/CtcrGHGD99— Tony Collins (@tontytrains) July 9, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 22:11 (one year ago)
an absolutely incredible cast of corrupt Labour villains and bigots congratulating him in the replies. This is why I got into to politics, to get on the payroll of a corporate lobby group funded by billionaires.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 04:46 (one year ago)
chill guys, it's just "Labour Together", it's about getting together and having fun and synergising exciting new brand ideas for the Labour Party, there are certainly no sinister corporate interests at play
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 09:14 (one year ago)
now he's probably got more influence over govt policy now than he would have had in the shadow cab!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 09:32 (one year ago)
Transcribing your owners' instructions is certainly a form of influence, yeah
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 09:35 (one year ago)
well yeah, it's only a boss role in title
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 09:39 (one year ago)
This is deeply disturbing & alarming.It’s said this individual is a key campaigner for Leic South’s new MP Shockat Adam Patel.@ShockatAdam must now condemn this individual & condemn those organising demonstrations defending him. The safety of people must always come first. pic.twitter.com/icLmhMUfRE— Jonathan Ashworth (@JonAshworth) July 10, 2024
anyone not condemning Ashworth should be arrested. "encouraging acts of terrorism" these days is just attending a Gaza protest.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 10:23 (one year ago)
he walked into a top job, courtesy of his billionaire owners and yet still a very bitter loser.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 10:27 (one year ago)
He's still the MP, Jonathan, and you're only claim to fame these days is as a John Parrott lookalike.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 10:28 (one year ago)
He’s such a racist POS and remember, he was married to one of the Southside apparatchiks who were being snide about Diane Abbott in their WhatsApp group.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 10:39 (one year ago)
Officially beloved by the worst people in the world.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jul/10/wetherspoons-boss-tim-martin-praises-economic-pedigree-of-rachel-reeves
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 10:42 (one year ago)
It's cool tho, all those melts who told us to get the Tories out and then pressure Labour to be better are pressuring the hell out of them as we speak
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 11:36 (one year ago)
https://t.co/YqWvMhGDsR pic.twitter.com/QfeyXxHIGK— Joseph K Bennett (@JosephKBennett) July 10, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 15:05 (one year ago)
so psyched for 5 years of this kind of scolding
They’re opposition parties and politicians and so are completely entitled to oppose and to posture. It’s more or less all you can do in opposition.BUT: forcing fights on this feels like it will just make Labour leadership dig in on it, so as not to hand them a ‘win’. https://t.co/b64ktwTX0Z— James Ball (@jamesrbuk) July 10, 2024
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 19:21 (one year ago)
Labour stans before election: "we must only criticise them once they're in government"
Labour stans after election look you know how it's gonna go
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 19:36 (one year ago)
the fiscal cost of scrapping 2cbc is a poxy £2bn. The other cost is Sir Kid Starver has a rep to protect.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 20:24 (one year ago)
Industrial strength whinging from Ashworth on Sky News right now about "impotent" independent candidates. Bitter? Not much!
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 July 2024 06:48 (one year ago)
If they’re ‘impotent’, that makes him FLACCID.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 11 July 2024 06:54 (one year ago)
he's such an odious slimeball I almost find myself liking Kieth in comparison . So glad this loss has really got under his skin. I hope it makes him ill.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 July 2024 07:01 (one year ago)
(xp) More like a eunuch.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 July 2024 07:05 (one year ago)
ungraciously whingeing about democracy because you didn't get enough votes to win.. dare I say... this is straight out of the Trump playbook!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 July 2024 07:18 (one year ago)
So entitled. Gordon Brown gave a speech at this man’s wedding to an elite Labour Right mean girl; he must’ve thought he would be on easy street for the rest of his life. He is now divorced and unseated, and boyyyyyy is he acting like it.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 11 July 2024 07:31 (one year ago)
Oh that's funny
― Mark G, Thursday, 11 July 2024 10:43 (one year ago)
He could make a J&MC follow-up album:
https://images.app.goo.gl/W3fWzejPNJvzSVzi6
― Mark G, Thursday, 11 July 2024 10:46 (one year ago)
"Stoned and Dethroned"
ach, fi
― Mark G, Thursday, 11 July 2024 10:47 (one year ago)
He looks like a Harry Enfield character
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 11 July 2024 10:54 (one year ago)
Funny https://t.co/yiWimURWPc pic.twitter.com/91KEx9UEgB— j (@jrc1921) July 11, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:27 (one year ago)
"things that are actually not true" such as Labour's tax and spend plans
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:29 (one year ago)
Cry more, loser
― Blupunishads (wins), Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:33 (one year ago)
it's almost as "untrue but sounds good" as an opposition party offering Change to the electorate whilst shackling themselves to the same fiscal restrictions that have necessitated the need for change in the first place
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:42 (one year ago)
We don't need this fascist groove Thangam
― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:44 (one year ago)
Talvin must be like “I don’t know her!”
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:55 (one year ago)
Anyway just to reiterate that two thirds of voters want a ceasefire and/or think Israel have done an Abu Ghraib a day since October so could everyone with a platform push back on this whole ‘factional voter’ to mean Muslim nonsense? This shit is dangerous to more than just Muslims.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:58 (one year ago)
Water bills in England and Wales will rise by an average of £94 over the next five years, under plans set out by the regulator and described by the chancellor as “a bitter pill” for households.Rachel Reeves said the planned 21% increase to an average of £535 a year reflected “14 years of failure from the Conservatives” amid the sewage pollution scandal and cost of living crisis.She said the Labour government was “determined to get a grip on the water sector so it delivers for consumers, and so that we stop polluting our beautiful seas and rivers”.
Rachel Reeves said the planned 21% increase to an average of £535 a year reflected “14 years of failure from the Conservatives” amid the sewage pollution scandal and cost of living crisis.
She said the Labour government was “determined to get a grip on the water sector so it delivers for consumers, and so that we stop polluting our beautiful seas and rivers”.
broke: renationalising water companieswoke: spending public money to scoop the shit out of the riversbespoke: hiking water bills so consumers can pay to scoop through shit out of the rivers and bosses can claim bumper bonuses― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:45 (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:45 (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 July 2024 14:13 (one year ago)
I'd pay twice my current water bill for a nationalised water company. But that's not on the table.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 11 July 2024 14:29 (one year ago)
Ch-ch-ch-changes
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 July 2024 14:33 (one year ago)
https://scheerpost.com/2024/07/11/how-labour-became-the-party-of-big-business/
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 12 July 2024 07:17 (one year ago)
has there ever been a govt more owned + in hock to evil corporations and billionaires, even the Tory ones?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 July 2024 07:20 (one year ago)
I wanna say it's about the same maybe but it's actual a key policy plank for Labour
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 July 2024 09:16 (one year ago)
Lowest turnout in UK general election since universal suffrage, report shows
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/12/lowest-turnout-in-uk-general-election-since-universal-suffrage-report-shows?CMP=share_btn_url
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Friday, 12 July 2024 09:38 (one year ago)
Great to take a sip of coffee and not be under a Tory govt anymore.
News on Victoria Atkins' emergency puberty blockers ban. Wes Streeting's position is that, subject to the outcome of the court proceedings and consultation, he will renew it and convert it into a permanent ban.— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) July 12, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 July 2024 10:38 (one year ago)
this is the kind of evil fuckery that makes [redacted Times columnist] feel fruity and horny
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 July 2024 11:26 (one year ago)
> Lowest turnout in UK general election since universal suffrage, report shows
a lot of people have been saying that, using it to undermine labour's (landslide) win, but this is the first time i've seen same people mention the new voter id requirement and the scale of the supression. and for every one that got turned away there'll be more that didn't vote because they knew they couldn't. didn't help the tories the way they thought it would though, eh?
― koogs, Friday, 12 July 2024 16:48 (one year ago)
called it btw
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 July 2024 23:39 (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 July 2024 16:54 (one year ago)
I suggested it would be a very low turnout multiple times, but didn't get the "since human suffrage" bit in!The Labour vote in England was basically the same number of votes as in 2019, but dispersed a bit differently I.e. probably more melty posh twats voting for them than in 2019. I have seen graphs that show that support in more deprived areas has dropped after briefly going up under the two Corbyn elections. Which says to me that it isn't voter ID that has disenfranchised voters in big enough numbers to make an impact on the result or dramatically affect turnout. Although this is my own biased reading of the data.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 July 2024 17:14 (one year ago)
two highly deprived areas where a mainly low-affluence set of voters mobilised against a millionaire parachuted-in Labour cunt, Dewsbury + Batley and Islington N 😎
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 July 2024 17:27 (one year ago)
And, of course, the Labour government has no plans to ditch the use of voter ID.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Friday, 12 July 2024 17:30 (one year ago)
when they bring in compulsory national ID cards/a national social credit system blacklist/an unrestricted surveillance state etc etc, then everyone will have voting ID - problem solved
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 July 2024 17:38 (one year ago)
I've probably said it elsewhere here, but someone I know regularly worked in polling stations (but refuses to now the ID laws were pushed through), and the whole 'voter fraud' thing is quite predictable a load of shite. Doesn't happen! Yet more Tory scaremongering current Labour are happy to slope along with as they think it makes them look disciplined. I guess it's here to stay now though...
― stop the boat(race)s (Matt #2), Friday, 12 July 2024 18:02 (one year ago)
I thought Labour are allegedly bringing in a bill that would lower the voting age to 16 and automise voter registration. It might be a bit optimistic of them to think that would work well for them when they are govt. They'll probably scrub the former bit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 July 2024 18:11 (one year ago)
talking about owned and in hock, here's a thread
For the last few months I've been reporting on how corporate interests have been influencing Starmer's LabourHere's a thread of everything I've uncovered, from cash-for-access scandals to secret meetings with arms firms to major lobbying campaigns🧵— Ethan Shone (@EJShone93) July 3, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 July 2024 20:53 (one year ago)
Change tho
Get the Tories Out tho
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 July 2024 20:54 (one year ago)
almost feel like, since brexit and the Truss-bomb, corporate interests have taken complete control now. No more government policies from now till the death.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 July 2024 21:26 (one year ago)
Only the world burning will stop these people from getting cushy spots at corporates after Lab lose the next election.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 July 2024 11:09 (one year ago)
Wrong fucking choice mum
Who is he trying to appeal to with this story? Just seems odd https://t.co/r60tochOV3— LINA (@agirlcalledlina) July 13, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 July 2024 14:35 (one year ago)
he's just taunting us at this stage
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 July 2024 15:18 (one year ago)
never say never
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Saturday, 13 July 2024 15:21 (one year ago)
I used to see Wes as almost a harmless joke figure a decade ago, when he was getting clowned on twitter for making incredibly dumb posts about McDs + his mum and trying to cultivate a New Labour style authentocrat pol image and failing so badly. Now from impressions of other ppl and the Abbott incident, the impression I get is of a very nasty, thin-skinned narccistic fucker with anger issues and possibly someone you might want to cross the road to avoid.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 July 2024 16:24 (one year ago)
Labour's manifesto promised to "remove indignities for trans people who deserve recognition & acceptance".That entails ending the Tories' ban on puberty blockers.Young people – cis & trans – must have access to healthcare they need. I'll always stand with the trans community.— Zarah Sultana (@zarahsultana) July 13, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 July 2024 17:38 (one year ago)
Labour manifesto is not worth the paper it was printed on
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 July 2024 17:40 (one year ago)
as Zarah shd've been well aware
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 July 2024 18:14 (one year ago)
meanwhile, Hilary Benn just loves the 12th of July
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 July 2024 19:08 (one year ago)
what a class 'a' cunt.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 July 2024 19:11 (one year ago)
i think some of those flags are now ingrowing
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 July 2024 19:13 (one year ago)
I came to the conclusion that his dad was an arsehole as well after listening to the Benn Tapes. Vain, egotistic, self-important and annoying as fuck. Kind of the opposite of Corbyn.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 July 2024 19:39 (one year ago)
I’m never quite sure why liberals/centrists find Corbyn ‘arrogant’. ‘Stubborn’, I understand.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 13 July 2024 19:48 (one year ago)
Starmer tweeted to send his best wishes to Trump. “Political violence in any form has no place in our societies and my thoughts are with all the victims of this attack,” he wrote on X.
has he condemned yesterday's israeli bombing of a humanitarian encampment yet?
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 14 July 2024 13:05 (one year ago)
4 US Presidents have been assassinated snowflake. https://t.co/jtE3Torx9K— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) September 25, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 July 2024 13:09 (one year ago)
Former Birmingham Perry Barr Labour MP Khalid Mahmood tells me there should be a police investigation into the election in his old seat.He alleges intimidation and violations of electoral law- he says he reported to @WMPolice but were ignored.
He alleges intimidation and violations of electoral law- he says he reported to @WMPolice but were ignored.
another ex-Labour MPs going down the Trump route of never accepting an election defeat gracefully and making baseless accusations of corruption.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 14 July 2024 15:45 (one year ago)
Forensic, as they say
I have some questions for @wesstreeting. 🧵 https://t.co/ZAVp6sVWI2— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) July 14, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 July 2024 18:39 (one year ago)
battered him like an urban fox
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 July 2024 18:50 (one year ago)
Wes won't be able to reply, because it's a nasty culture war policy without the reason or evidence he's claiming guides him to make decisions. Just an absolute psychopath. Joylon is definitely a better barrister than Kieth ever was.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 14 July 2024 19:15 (one year ago)
Sick bag urgently required.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/15/abour-lisa-nandy-gareth-southgate-michael-gove
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Monday, 15 July 2024 08:20 (one year ago)
“era of culture wars is over”
to say this days after confirming the Tory puberty blocker ban remains in place is just a hideous lie. But the only reflection the PM sees in the England side is in the total wanker who manages them!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 15 July 2024 08:30 (one year ago)
what she means is that labour is no longer a victim of the culture wars but is joining the tories & the press in perpetrating them
― ufo, Monday, 15 July 2024 11:03 (one year ago)
despite a 5 year campaign telling left wing voters to fuck off in order to win over tory voters, more tories literally died than switched to labour https://t.co/xJKGpdowpH— Crowsa Luxemburg (@quendergeer) July 15, 2024
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 15 July 2024 15:57 (one year ago)
Donald Trump's new running mate JD Vance says the UK may now be “the first truly Islamist country to get a nuclear weapon... since Labour took over"
lol, an Islamic Republic would be an upgrade on this Starmer shitshow, imagine what these chuds would have been saying if Corbyn had won. In 2019 Pompeo was saying if Corbyn wins, there would be some unspecified US pushback against him becoming PM.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 06:53 (one year ago)
For an Islamist country, it is a real shame that I genuinely don’t think I know one Muslim anymore since I moved out of East London a couple years ago. I think I’m missing out on all the nuclear fun.
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 07:50 (one year ago)
where I am it was the Muslim voters that defeated the horrible millionaire "entrepreneur" candidate that Labour parachuted in. Not a binary enough situation for JD Hogg's pickled brain to comprehend.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 08:25 (one year ago)
If this is the benevolent empire of my neighbour Yas, I approve - chicken bhuna for EVERYONE!
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 08:42 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/16/vaughan-gething-resigns-first-minister-wales
Starmerite drone turns out to be utterly corrupt liar
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 11:27 (one year ago)
Well I guess quitting is change
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 11:42 (one year ago)
There will be quite a few scandals from Lab over the next few years. Wouldn't be surprised if things were suddenly uncovered.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 12:18 (one year ago)
Would the Islamic (sadly not a republic of the) United Kingdom not be the second truly Islamist country to get a nuclear weapon, after Pakistan??
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 13:57 (one year ago)
Look you can't expect a vice-presidential candidate to know anything thing about geopolitics
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 14:19 (one year ago)
The full quote
“And I was talking about, you know, what is the first truly Islamist country that will get a nuclear weapon, and we were like, maybe it’s Iran, you know, maybe Pakistan already kind of counts, and then we sort of finally decided maybe it’s actually the UK, since Labour just took over.”
This guy sure has the boorish mannerisms of a Yaley.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 14:24 (one year ago)
I've only made the connection that he's the author of that much derided white supremist, racist dog whistle book that was turned into another mawkish also much derided Ron Howard movie 🤢
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 14:29 (one year ago)
Vance has a pleasant surprise waiting for him re Starmer's changed Labour party
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 14:38 (one year ago)
the real q is which aspects of "Islamism" would Vance object to
― rob, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 15:01 (one year ago)
seriously
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 15:11 (one year ago)
it's hilarious that it was his stupid book and the movie of it getting panned and his old neighbours calling him a fraud who grew up in the posh suburbs that drove him to go full fash
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 16:44 (one year ago)
tbh i think it's mainly peter thiel's money
― mark s, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 16:52 (one year ago)
not just money, he's also getting life extension treatment
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 16:58 (one year ago)
can't extend something you don't have
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 17:04 (one year ago)
George Eaton says in his New Statesman column that Labour plans to introduce signs on relevant projects saying “made with GB Energy investment,” like previous EU signs, to reflect the attachment voters feel to institutions.
"Sadly, the signs will not be large enough to mention which private enterprises will be receiving the profit"
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 07:18 (one year ago)
GB energy sign washed away by floods..
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 08:23 (one year ago)
well after all, a greater quantity of the same private energy fuckery that already holds a greedy profit driven monopoly over the UK, could also be considered change.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 09:20 (one year ago)
Saw Pat McFadden on Sky this morning saying how much he'd enjoyed that stupid book
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 09:50 (one year ago)
his whole self-made from rags-to-riches persona is a complete fabrication and he's a racist prick, so I can understand the appeal to the average Labour Right fraud.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 10:16 (one year ago)
Just got round to this article rebutting claims of sectarian politics in the vote.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/why-british-muslim-voters-accused-sectarian-politics
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 10:22 (one year ago)
https://t.co/VJDMaoClBW pic.twitter.com/OHUPlG7mXZ— Crowsa Luxemburg (@quendergeer) July 17, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 12:39 (one year ago)
IT'S CHANGE
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 14:24 (one year ago)
There has been a GB energy announcement
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 14:40 (one year ago)
Obv the details of anything progressive are most likely to be crumbs. We were already given v little.
Here is a guide of things that are missing. Don't expect the vote to 16 and 17 yo to ever come to pass.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/17/what-was-missing-from-the-kings-speech-from-votes-for-16-year-olds-to-leasehold-reform
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 14:43 (one year ago)
On London's 'fluctuating populations'
https://archive.ph/Z6net
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 16:26 (one year ago)
however many seat majority and still serving up thin gruel. a prospectus you’d expect at the tail end of a faltering government
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 16:37 (one year ago)
on the BBC News page at the moment is a 60 second video covering the King's Speech, of which 25 seconds includes anything we could generously describe as policy, which says a lot
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 16:42 (one year ago)
If I had the opportunity to write a speech for King Charles it would read: both my brother and various uncles of mine are or were disgusting nonces and I'm a complete cunt. But I have never seen a more repulsively evil and horribly committed Jimmy Savile enabler in the UK establishment than Kieth in seven decades of royal service. And I used to be no 1!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 17 July 2024 22:03 (one year ago)
Paaaaa-thetic
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/18/david-lammy-says-he-can-find-common-ground-with-jd-vance
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 July 2024 10:48 (one year ago)
Class, eh? Is Lammy saying his parents are loaded too?
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 18 July 2024 10:59 (one year ago)
They can both bond over their love of charred Palestinian children
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:03 (one year ago)
More recently Lammy has spoken at conservative events in the US, telling the Hudson Institute in May that he “gets the agenda that drives ‘America first’”.
there was footage of him from one of these events where he is referring to himself as a small c conservative, personally I'd use a different c-word for him. This is grown-up politics in action.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:03 (one year ago)
lol otm
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:04 (one year ago)
what is to be gained from trying to build bridges with white supremacist maga republicans who are planning to turn the US into a theocratic dictatorship? It's so futile as well as amoral. Lammy always was an unprincipled careerist moron. As well as plumbing new depths in the last week he's also revealed what a boot-licking masochist he is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:25 (one year ago)
I think you answered your own question
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:27 (one year ago)
they need to build bridges with the US right so that they'll get invited next time they decide to bomb somewhere and Starmer can fulfill his dream of being Blair once again
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:35 (one year ago)
It's good to hear that Lammy feels class solidarity with a white supremacist who was actually a Yaley poshboy. Fucking dim cunt doesn't even do a basic level of research. Doesn't even mention the stripping away of women's healthcare rights. He should step down imo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:43 (one year ago)
I finished that Windrush Betrayal book the other day and Lammy gets quite a few quotes expressing outrage, guess the ppl fucking over immigrant's lives for no good reason in the US are different.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:46 (one year ago)
Grifter knows a grifter is what this comes down to, same reason Trump loves Putin
― muswell hillbilly elegy (Matt #2), Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:47 (one year ago)
would it be a scandal if a Labour frontbencher said they felt class solidarity with Tommy Robinson? I don't even if it would these days.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:59 (one year ago)
*know*
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:00 (one year ago)
Lammy's good at flashy tubthumping speeches expressing outrage at injustices, less good about doing anything about them though.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:08 (one year ago)
... less interested at least.
(is there actually anything to "Vance's parents are rich", or is it just getting folded over from the son of a toolmaker?)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:27 (one year ago)
It comes from Vance's book itself iirc - he mentions his family being nouveau riche and incapable of dealing with money as part of his "the poor hillbillies are poor because they are worthless addicts" stance.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:31 (one year ago)
He is of Scots-Irish descent.
Figures.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:34 (one year ago)
... Vance that is, not Lammy.
I saw a clip by some youtuber showing (where JD Vance grew up) what looked like much posher than the average English middle-class suburb and saying how Hillbilly does this place look i.e. not very Hillbilly at all. lol, that'll do for me. I'm not a fucking journalist!
Lammy's diagnosis of the cause of the London Riots and London knife crime in general was a lack of corporal punishment and absentee fathers. That should have disqualified him from ever being taken seriously on any matter again.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:40 (one year ago)
Streeting also sounded like a man of Christ the other week. Wonder how many there might be in the government.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:44 (one year ago)
Ah man, don't make me read this book - nouveau riche is like George Getty, or Trump's grandda, I can't find anyone claiming anything more for Vance's family than "his Papaw had a job at the steel mill, the kind you can't get any more"
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:45 (one year ago)
I think his family was working class and also fairly fucked up; it was (state) university that turned his life around, like so many others
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:48 (one year ago)
https://www.meisterdrucke.uk/kunstwerke/1260px/English%20School%20-%20Tubal-Cain%20-%20%28MeisterDrucke-97495%29.jpg
after all, Kieth's dad was Tubal-Cain the toolmaker!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:50 (one year ago)
the excerpt was somewhere in the US politics thread, saying his family was making good money within the context of Ohio at the time, like fuck am I gonna tackle that monster of a thread to find it for you tho so'z
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:51 (one year ago)
Yeah I think the household income was reported as being $100k+
― crisp, Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:53 (one year ago)
such a hardscrabble life!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:54 (one year ago)
If they were ‘fucked up’ I’d hesitate to say he’d turned anything around given what a cunt he seems to be
― crisp, Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:55 (one year ago)
The argument about upbringings devolving into the Four Kentuckians sketch as it always does
― muswell hillbilly elegy (Matt #2), Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:59 (one year ago)
Oh yeah I mean as soon as a rung appeared on that magic escalator he hung on like a crazed weasel
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:02 (one year ago)
well it was tough, some weeks we'd only have 2-3k left in the Hillbilly money barrel for meth and moonshine after paying gym subscriptions, college fees etc...
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:03 (one year ago)
I don't see Lammy lasting very long in one of the major offices of state, he's already way out of his depth.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:04 (one year ago)
There is really nothing the establishment likes more than a Yale educated good ol boy
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:05 (one year ago)
"Ah man, don't make me read this book"
If you want to find out about how much of his underclass persona is bullshit, that's probably the last book you want to read!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:16 (one year ago)
https://pictures.abebooks.com/inventory/md/md31896215059.jpg
come back when you've read the memoir of a real underclass kid
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:21 (one year ago)
No, that's fair enough - I skimmed the last year's worth of Vance's in the search and it didn't pop-up but that's not always how it works. Was it this month's thread, after the nomination?
I mean, I'll take it from anywhere else - do you remember the YouTuber? - but Daniel reckons it's in the book.
To be clear I've no interest in defending this cunt - this sounds like a great fact and if it's not bollocks then I look forward to pointing it out when he comes up in real life.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:35 (one year ago)
https://www.shortform.com/blog/jd-vance-mother-bev-vance/
― crisp, Thursday, 18 July 2024 13:50 (one year ago)
culturally degenerate substance abusers with spiralling credit card debts. Various personality disorders. I just skimmed it tbh. That could be my paternal relations from Kerry. I still consider them middle class.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 14:15 (one year ago)
Jailed for a zoom call.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/jul/18/five-just-stop-oil-supporters-jailed-over-protest-that-blocked-m25
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 July 2024 16:09 (one year ago)
I'm just thinking class distinctions are heavily scrutinised in the UK in a way that doesn't happen in the US. Especially by dragged-up cunts like me. But I could imagine people from relatively comfortable middle-class backgrounds who would have faced much harder financial struggles than JDV did. Household income might not be everything, but it still shapes you in terms of what you can eat (or in many cases eating nothing) or wear or even your ability to even be able to leave the area you live in and travel somewhere else. Idgaf what this cunt says, he's a pampered brat to me.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 16:18 (one year ago)
now we've got a human rights lawyer as Prime Minister there's no way the government will allow people to be jailed for non-violent protest, right?
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 July 2024 16:22 (one year ago)
it's a good job he's got his mates at the Trilateral Commission because even some of the dodgiest human rights lawyers are going to consider him a beyond the pale renegade by the time he has finished being PM
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 16:26 (one year ago)
this is a handy shortcut to the content of vance's book w/o (obviously) reading it
To mark the nomination of JD Vance as Donald Trump's running mate we are re-releasing our "Hillbilly Elegy" episode with a new intro and a worse zinger. https://t.co/8rXzpzne87— If Books Could Kill (@IfBooksPod) July 16, 2024
― mark s, Thursday, 18 July 2024 17:18 (one year ago)
^^^it's good is this so far, because they hate everything about the book and JD Vance and consider him a fraud. LOL: "his mum already sounds like oscar-bait"
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 17:38 (one year ago)
wth I didn’t realise the JSO sentences were in relation to a protest they didn’t even carry out. the numbers were already obscene before I learned that
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Thursday, 18 July 2024 17:47 (one year ago)
Potential protestors can learn fom this that one must make your point through official channels - a politely-worded letter to Shell requesting they please stop demolishing the planet should do it. Otherwise you'll be hurled into a dungeon.
― muswell hillbilly elegy (Matt #2), Thursday, 18 July 2024 18:05 (one year ago)
christ imagine what is going to happen to those Palestine Action activists, they'll end up with life sentences under a Labour govt
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 18:10 (one year ago)
thanks for that if books could kill link, mark. it was a goodun!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 July 2024 18:53 (one year ago)
Starmer's barely in No. 10 and already they're rioting in Leeds.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Friday, 19 July 2024 08:40 (one year ago)
partying like it's 2011 in Harehills. Love that pic of the guy trashing a cop car with a kiddy scooter. Probably should have wore a mask though.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 July 2024 08:54 (one year ago)
Dragging crying children around. Incredible way to handle things. Good work @WestYorksPolice. And then you just disappear when the obvious consequences happen https://t.co/Zphz9yOqpA— dan (@bierkonceagain) July 19, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 July 2024 12:06 (one year ago)
But this is no time to sit back.Labour’s admission that they'll consider offshoring asylum claims* if it “works” reminds us this isn't a political tendency which instinctively supports refugees & migrants 8/*not quite the Rwanda plan but closely relatedhttps://t.co/32bmdDWKP6— Alasdair Mackenzie 🧡 (@AlasdairMack66) July 19, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 July 2024 12:56 (one year ago)
in opposition they never pretended to care about how fascistic and inhuman Rwanda policy was, all criticism was always about the cost effectiveness of it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 July 2024 13:03 (one year ago)
Yup if they make it cost efficient and place some technocratic language around it..
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 July 2024 13:48 (one year ago)
Dunno about you, @DavidLammy, but I’d be pretty fucking ashamed of myself if I’d posed for this photo on Monday, then on Friday the ICJ were saying, “This guy and his entire govt are engaged in illegal land theft, apartheid and various other violations of international law.” pic.twitter.com/TdnBduQjWf— Stella Cast 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ (they/she) (@SpillerOfTea) July 19, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 July 2024 16:52 (one year ago)
you're not allowed in the PLP until you've had the operation to remove the bit of your brain that generates shame
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 July 2024 16:57 (one year ago)
So it seems that the among the new post-election Deputy Speakers of the House is "Sir" Christopher Chope and, to make matters worse, he was elected to this position. Here are some of his greatest hits:
Chope voted against the legislation for same-sex marriage in 2013.[25]
In 2014, Chope voted against requiring all companies with more than 250 employees to declare the gap in pay between the average male and average female salaries.[26]
In March 2019, Chope was one of 21 MPs who voted against LGBT inclusive sex and relationship education in English schools.[31][32]
On 12 March 2010, Chope blocked a bill to protect poor countries from vulture funds, despite his party's support for the bill.
In December 2013, Chope objected to the second reading of the Alan Turing (Statutory Pardon) Bill in the House of Commons.[43]
In November 2014, Chope blocked a bill that would have banned the use of wild animals in circus performances.
In the same month, Chope, alongside Philip Davies, the Conservative MP for Shipley, filibustered a bill intended to make revenge evictions an offence.[47]
In October 2015, Chope, Davies and Conservative MP David Nuttall filibustered a private member's bill that would have placed restrictions on hospital parking charges for carers.[50]
On 15 June 2018, Chope blocked the passage of a private member's bill that would have made upskirting a specific offence.
On 16 July 2018, Chope blocked a motion calling for the House of Commons chamber to be used for a Women MPs of the World Conference on a day in November when MPs were not sitting.
On 23 November 2018, Chope objected to a bill that would have amended the Children Act 1989 in order to increase the protective power of courts over girls at risk of female genital mutilation.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 July 2024 18:19 (one year ago)
looks like Change tbh
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 July 2024 18:22 (one year ago)
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=To%20chope
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 20 July 2024 18:54 (one year ago)
Pathetic.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/21/gordon-brown-launches-londons-first-multibank-amid-uk-child-poverty-fears
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 21 July 2024 08:44 (one year ago)
need to expand what the charity sector is already doing to help people cope with living under an austerity+ Labour govt
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 July 2024 09:02 (one year ago)
after another 5 years of this shit and they'll still be saying they are hamstrung by the damage caused by the Truss budget.
"with Amazon the biggest contributor"
lool, sick puppies
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 July 2024 09:12 (one year ago)
Forget Thatcher, this is Cameron all over again.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 21 July 2024 09:15 (one year ago)
Heather Iqbal's election agent wants the law changed so that 'unpleasant language' is a criminal offence and uses the far-right murder of Jo Cox to push her agenda pic.twitter.com/OI7G4Rp060— j (@jrc1921) July 21, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 July 2024 16:53 (one year ago)
the way these people (including her fucked up danger husband) invoke Jo Cox every time they are losing an argument or things don't go their way is quite sickening. And also as J Cox was a legitimate-concernist (in quite stark contrast to the "more-in-common" shtick that is associated with her), as all garbage Labour Right MPs were at the time. She was part of the problem, not the solution.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 July 2024 17:22 (one year ago)
what kind of unpleasant language we talking about? rude words? calling somebody a Tory? reminding them of the consequences of their actions?
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 July 2024 18:01 (one year ago)
another example of this unpleasant language was a young muslim constituent repeatedly asking Ashworth why he abstained on the ceasefire vote. Or as he put it it was bullying intimidation, and just to add a bit of dogwhistle in there, he added he had to hide in the local vicarage for his own safety.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 July 2024 18:27 (one year ago)
I understand the confusion, but he's been a Tory cunt member of the Conservative Party, and cunt, his whole career. He take up that his objections are to improve the quality of motions passed to an empty chamber and then he comes out with
On 10 February 2009, Chope co-sponsored an Employment Opportunities Bill to the House of Commons, which would have enabled workers to opt out of the minimum wage.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 22 July 2024 07:16 (one year ago)
Bah, that should be "he talks up that...." - blame a combination of my phone's worsening autocorrect send my worsening brain!
Anyway, something that keeps drawing my eye is the Telegraph's increasingly frantic attempts to kill its readers by insisting that Rache Reeves is going to go on an enormous tax-raising jag to pay for stuff, rather than try to squeeze benefits further.
"Inheritance tax raid ‘goes against human nature’, Labour warned"
https://archive.is/92i6B
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 07:31 (one year ago)
it bain't be natural
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 08:47 (one year ago)
counterpoint to the Telegraph: 100% Inheritance Tax now!
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 08:48 (one year ago)
Just take all their money when the greedy grasping old bastards are still alive.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 08:59 (one year ago)
Stop the money from getting to them in the first place
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 09:35 (one year ago)
yes, those methods would be good too
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 09:58 (one year ago)
Told Labour whips are threatening to remove whip from any Labour MP that votes for the amendment calling for the abolition of the two-child limit — the single biggest driver of child poverty in the country.If true, that is shameful. So much for 'country first, party second.'— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) July 23, 2024
you've got to admire the commitment to leaning into the evil so early in their reign
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 16:55 (one year ago)
Oh,so they want to create more popular independents. Sure, bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off for em
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 17:11 (one year ago)
Seven Labour rebels. Fucking pathetic.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 18:56 (one year ago)
🚨 BREAKING: Labour has suspended the following MPs after they voted for the SNP amendment to scrap the two-child benefit cap - Apsana Begum - Imran Hussain - Rebecca Long Bailey - Ian Byrne - Richard Burgon - Zarah Sultana - John McDonnell— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) July 23, 2024
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 19:05 (one year ago)
nah but we Got The Tories Out, just the thought of that will sustain all those hungry children
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 19:06 (one year ago)
They appear to have omitted Diane Abbot ... oh no, forget about it
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 19:07 (one year ago)
Clive Lewis as well, Lavery and Nadia Whittome, more nice caring MPs that cosplay at being socialists
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 19:12 (one year ago)
every Labour MP who didn't vote against Starmer’s 2 Child Cap is a Tory.. end of. There is no defensive nuance to this, they are just simply Tory Cunts.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 19:28 (one year ago)
This is just.
Thanks to all who fought hard for the Labour gov to immediately scrap the 2 child cap. We moved the dial, the campaign will continueVoted with the gov tonight for unity but made it clear: the massive strength of feeling is undeniableIt must be a priority for our first budget— Kim Johnson (@KimJohnsonMP) July 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 19:54 (one year ago)
another waste of space
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 19:56 (one year ago)
"the massive strength of feeling" was 7 Labour mps, you pathetic coward
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:04 (one year ago)
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:16 (one year ago)
7 Labour MPs who have been suspended for their strength of feeling, so much for unity!
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:22 (one year ago)
Starmer so determined to destroy anyone in the party who even remotely resembles a socialist that he didn't even wait till the paint was dry on the door of No. 10.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:24 (one year ago)
I have been informed by the Chief Whip & the Labour Party leadership that the whip has been withdrawn from me for voting to scrap the two-child benefit cap, which would lift 330,000 children out of poverty.I will always stand up for the most vulnerable in our society.— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) July 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:31 (one year ago)
I wouldn't be surprised if Reeves does remove it in the budget now, because as much as they love starving kids this ""show of strength"" was even more important to them. They can then claim some sort of credit and kudos for the act and get to grind their enemies' noses in the dust. They will also claim the removal was the plan all along, and some fucking morons and sycophants will believe them too.
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:37 (one year ago)
As one Labour insider put it. These rebels on 2 child cap. They’ve given us the earliest possible chance to mark their cards. When they come crawling to us 4 1/2 years from now asking for help with their campaigns to be elected on a Lab ticket. Forget it.— lee harpin (@lmharpin) July 23, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:40 (one year ago)
From the mouth of Wormtongue himself
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 20:41 (one year ago)
All seven have had the whip suspended for six months, when there will be a review.
Honestly they may as well go indie now, none of them are ever getting back in if past form is anything to go by.
― psychobilly elegy (Matt #2), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 21:00 (one year ago)
not sure who this is
We must scrap the inhuman Work Capability Assessments and private provision of disability assessments (e.g. ATOS), scrap punitive sanctions, two-child limit and benefits cap.— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) February 6, 2020
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 21:08 (one year ago)
seeing him being referred too as Sir Kid Starver
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 23 July 2024 21:21 (one year ago)
pic.twitter.com/WePYQ4GOPK— Hon. PolProf of Agile Ceremonies (@CeilNoyle) July 23, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 21:34 (one year ago)
They’ve given us the earliest possible chance to mark their cards.
"Prematurely Anti-Starvation"
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 24 July 2024 09:49 (one year ago)
sad lol
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 24 July 2024 10:01 (one year ago)
This is the politics of committees, surveys, consultations, strategies.
When revenge comes they will never make the connection.
A new child poverty unit is being established in the Cabinet Office and a ministerial taskforce to oversee the new strategy has been established. I’ve already spoken to both @leicesterliz and @Alison_McGovern about its important work.— Torsten Bell (@TorstenBell) July 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 July 2024 11:31 (one year ago)
Brexit has already happened. Reform backed the lift of the cap.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 July 2024 11:33 (one year ago)
This could be the changingest government ever
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 July 2024 11:37 (one year ago)
Child Poverty Unit is a big blackboard with GROWTH written on it
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 July 2024 11:38 (one year ago)
Good day for Milburn to demand compulsory work for the sick and disabled tho, under the radar
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 July 2024 11:46 (one year ago)
there was apparently some grim shit in Sunak's green paper, like proposing vouchers, replacing PIP with one-off grants - murderous ideas. Heaven forbid these psychos would be up for them.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 July 2024 12:01 (one year ago)
Lab wonk: AI is what's needed here.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/25/online-gp-consultations-have-led-to-harm-and-death-investigation-finds
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 July 2024 09:56 (one year ago)
time for the committee we all love to see
https://alphahistory.com/frenchrevolution/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/cpscaricature-e1701209674285.jpg
― mark s, Thursday, 25 July 2024 10:28 (one year ago)
That's right
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 July 2024 10:58 (one year ago)
The PM tells workers at an engineering firm in the North-West: "My dad was a toolmaker."— Hugo Gye (@HugoGye) July 25, 2024
well he made one tool at least
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 25 July 2024 11:00 (one year ago)
Vile anti-cellism from the hard left. They probably only like the viola, that's how messed up they are
I campaigned in Bristol and saw the vicious below belt Green campaign to oust the only professional concert level cellist Labour MP. https://t.co/NtgjS6a0w9— Denis MacShane (@DenisMacShane) July 25, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 July 2024 11:04 (one year ago)
You know who else hated cellists? Stalin. He insisted that Shostakovich change all the cello parts to double bass
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 July 2024 11:06 (one year ago)
I don't think Stalin would have approved of a so-called national energy generation company paying huge rents to a parasitic monarch, who apparently owns the North Sea.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 July 2024 11:58 (one year ago)
I blame the Velvet Underground xpost*2
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 July 2024 11:59 (one year ago)
Our beloved King actually owns Doggerland, get it right
― psychobilly elegy (Matt #2), Thursday, 25 July 2024 12:06 (one year ago)
someone should tell the King of the Browntrouts his lease has expired, unless he fancies taking up permanent residence there.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 July 2024 12:31 (one year ago)
> time for the committee we all love to see
have you seen the french olympics mascot?
https://olympics.com/en/news/new-paris-2024-olympic-paralympic-mascots-revealed
― koogs, Thursday, 25 July 2024 13:10 (one year ago)
excellent detail from the (interesting!) wikipedia entry on the phrygian cap: "robespierre would later object to the color, but was ignored"
― mark s, Thursday, 25 July 2024 13:16 (one year ago)
i know i know i know but i opened the US politics thread and people were discussing whether or not the Kamala Harris campaign ad was inspiring or just vibes or whatever, and to me me it seemed totally blank and I've always been left totally cold by the amber waves of grain stars and stripes forever stuff that american politicians hurl at voters and seems to go down even with people i think should have more sense. I wondered if the corbyn one from 2019 was really just an equivalent, but transposed to *The UK* and i watched it again just now to see and it opened it right back up the sense that it really was the last chance and now five years later it mostly feels like it was.
Hope. pic.twitter.com/Mdti3obZiy— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) December 10, 2019
― plax (ico), Thursday, 25 July 2024 14:55 (one year ago)
see there's your mistake right there, not a single grown-up journalist or briefcase in the entire video
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 July 2024 16:05 (one year ago)
having broad public support for your manifesto, rather than only from lobby journo freaks and billionaires is just populism I'm afraid.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 July 2024 17:13 (one year ago)
I know I know you're right I'm sobbing though
― plax (ico), Thursday, 25 July 2024 19:45 (one year ago)
no seriously it was very moving, more so because here we are
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 July 2024 19:47 (one year ago)
I went out for a late night walk with the dog that December night of horror result, drank a 4-pack and decided I'll top myself another time, if necessary.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 July 2024 21:04 (one year ago)
Kamala is the usual politician. Just crumbs, floating above water gruel that we are getting from Starmer.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 July 2024 21:13 (one year ago)
she's standing taller than Starmer then!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 July 2024 21:21 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/25/tom-tugendhats-tory-leadership-campaign-mocked-for-turd-acronym
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Friday, 26 July 2024 08:16 (one year ago)
Calling him a turd is an insult to excrement
Disgraceful response to a reasonable question, defaming the questioner. Shocking. And I don’t believe for a second this man can speak Arabic beyond “yalla” and “shukran” pic.twitter.com/aCfZ2EPWuq— Philip Proudfoot (@PhilipProudfoot) July 25, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 26 July 2024 09:04 (one year ago)
fucking hell
― plax (ico), Friday, 26 July 2024 09:22 (one year ago)
whataboutism is basically its own branch of physics when you start talking to one of these tools. questioner thought he was asking something that would actually be engaged with poor guy
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 26 July 2024 09:57 (one year ago)
When they call him an old school Tory it's shorthand for "still thinks British gunboats should run the world"
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 July 2024 11:43 (one year ago)
Anyway he'll always be Tom Tuggin' Dat to me
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 July 2024 11:44 (one year ago)
its so funny how much that virtue signalling stuff is done by people who are rude about the woke left or w/e
― plax (ico), Friday, 26 July 2024 11:52 (one year ago)
im in favour of their ongoing genocide because i actually care more than you about Palestinians was not an angle i was expecting though
― plax (ico), Friday, 26 July 2024 11:55 (one year ago)
Badenoch was an ILX poster back in the day.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/26/kemi-badenoch-accuses-tory-leadership-rival-of-dirty-tricks
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 July 2024 07:22 (one year ago)
Aja?
― Mark G, Saturday, 27 July 2024 10:11 (one year ago)
Good shout
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 July 2024 11:26 (one year ago)
Many backward societies sacrifice people to placate false gods. https://t.co/0QuiA6VlQj— Chris Dillow (@CJFDillow) July 27, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 July 2024 11:27 (one year ago)
Rachel Reeves already absolutely despises the malingering and dissatisfied population even more than austerity guard dogs like the OBR and any of the *independent* pay review bodies do, this ghoulish fiscal hawk doesn't need any advice from them.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 July 2024 12:51 (one year ago)
so wearing a cagoule is Prime Ministerial now
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 July 2024 16:29 (one year ago)
Give him a break, his father was a toolmaker.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 July 2024 16:42 (one year ago)
feigning seriousness in a cagoule and looking like an uncomfortably self-conscious knobhead
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 July 2024 17:01 (one year ago)
i've seen some of the most embarrassing Tweets of all time from his grown-up fans today
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 July 2024 17:47 (one year ago)
starming hysterical naked
― keep kamala and khive on (wins), Saturday, 27 July 2024 18:01 (one year ago)
This is just outrageous. I have seen some reporting but this blog does a good job.
https://samanthaasumadu.substack.com/p/the-guilty-men
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 July 2024 09:34 (one year ago)
Panto in August:
Public service notice (given lots of confused coverage this morning): you’re not “cutting public spending” if you’re not changing any budgets but instead revealing that the previous government announced transport schemes without the budgets to make them happen— Torsten Bell (@TorstenBell) July 29, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 July 2024 11:43 (one year ago)
Should creaking transport infrastructure lead to a serious accident no one is going to give a shit about this word salad.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 July 2024 11:45 (one year ago)
Shocked I tell thee
We told you so. https://t.co/hjAIGLrquq— Owen Jones (@OwenJones84) July 29, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 29 July 2024 11:46 (one year ago)
oh my fucking god lmao
― imago, Monday, 29 July 2024 11:49 (one year ago)
Quite enjoying Torsten Bell staking an early claim to being this gov's Chemical Ali
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 July 2024 12:02 (one year ago)
You wouldn't know from the headline that this £88bn will come from private finance institutions in the City. They will expect a high return on their investment - returns paid for by customers through higher bills. So, it's customers paying for the clean up, not the firms. https://t.co/n5Jxd6ICMz— Mick McAteer (@MickMcAteer) July 29, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 July 2024 12:18 (one year ago)
The likes of Bell are hilarious. Tell themselves they are progressive while using data, fudged thinking to trot out the saen shit as the Tories.
Guy has been parachuted into a constituency that I reckon he won't care to know (reality would vaporize his mind), and he'll end up losing in five years but go back to a cushy job in a think tank in London like nothing happened.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 July 2024 13:59 (one year ago)
It's like when Tristram Hunt was MP for Stoke.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Monday, 29 July 2024 14:05 (one year ago)
One moral of this story is we need to stop electing people with a name on the Torsten-Tristram spectrum
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 29 July 2024 14:51 (one year ago)
what a pair of hunts.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 July 2024 16:04 (one year ago)
Reeves bringing back the 2012 vibes by trying to kill a stack of pensioners this winter
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 July 2024 16:34 (one year ago)
Rich liberal oldies are always right in there talking about how they don’t need winter fuel payments finally getting what they kept asking for :/
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Monday, 29 July 2024 16:43 (one year ago)
Office of Value for Money says frozen pensioner corpses can be converted into bars of soap
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 July 2024 16:43 (one year ago)
It was one faction that was in power for five years, and the ppl that took over are not of that faction. Love how this dick is pretending.
Odd really. Centre left has spent past decade trying to move discourse away from this analysis, with some success. Now a [kinnock voice] Labour government goes back to it in office. Weird— Duncan Robinson (@duncanrobinson) July 29, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 July 2024 17:15 (one year ago)
Lol nothing matters pt 736464829
The Paymaster General has suggested stripping some older people of the Winter Fuel Payment.I’ve written to the Chancellor asking him to clarify whether he is considering this for the Autumn Statement.Pensioners mustn’t be forced to bear the brunt of Tory economic failure. pic.twitter.com/Yn5eRE7XsV— Darren Jones MP (@darrenpjones) November 20, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 July 2024 23:37 (one year ago)
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZzBodHEzeGR0YjJrNDhqNzFqdXh5cjU0bzYwcjVyZ3hwNndkZWhlOSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/j3KTcQHNbFoLUrx0Qb/giphy.gif
― conrad, Tuesday, 30 July 2024 09:12 (one year ago)
Good when Polly Toynbee piles on you know you're bad
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 11:50 (one year ago)
That was "God" not "good"
so it turns out Reeves is just as evil as her hawkish austerity rhetoric has been for the last decade. Anyone feigning surprise or disappointment at this point is just playing.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 12:07 (one year ago)
The people that I hate the most are the celebs popping up to tell us they don't need the winter fuel allowance, thanks Rachel Reeves, you're so clever and sensible, that was such a good idea!
Debatable if they know their behaviour helps to destroy universal principles and automatically impoverish more people
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 30 July 2024 12:10 (one year ago)
In fact, exactly what Suzy said above :D
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 30 July 2024 12:20 (one year ago)
Yeah, they’re all tossers and grew up enjoying every possible universal benefit there was.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 12:31 (one year ago)
The actual threshold is less than £12 grand a year I think so yeah really punishing the idle rich this
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 14:23 (one year ago)
The footage from Southport this evening is fucking awful
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 20:28 (one year ago)
this country is such a grim and dangerous place for children. It was when I was growing up in the 70's but it seems worse now. This morning I heard this kid saying to another one: I got taken from my mother because she was bad. There is a half-way house child protection place around the corner, where kids whose parents have failed a section 47 referral end up. Not really Southport related but is has being playing in my mind all day.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 20:57 (one year ago)
That’s awful.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 21:01 (one year ago)
Yeah.
If the going rate is 4 or 5 years for a zoom call to plan a peaceful road block, what would be appropriate for those who invade a grieving, traumatised community, 24 hours after the deaths of three little girls, to participate in a full blown race riot?— Ally Fogg (@AllyFogg) July 30, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 July 2024 21:05 (one year ago)
That assumes anyone has been arrested.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 21:05 (one year ago)
... or will be.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 21:06 (one year ago)
"We didn't have the resources to identify all 300 rioters so we arrested no-one" is the standard kind of response
― psychobilly elegy (Matt #2), Tuesday, 30 July 2024 21:35 (one year ago)
fascist scum showing exactly what they are, i'm sure government ministers will think twice before inciting more anti-refugee hatred. and then continue with it.
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 07:08 (one year ago)
It seems to have escaped the attention of these scumbags that one of the little girls who died was an immigrant.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 07:17 (one year ago)
Such a wanker phraseKeir Starmer has said those who rioted in Southport on Tuesday night will “feel the full force of the law”
― nashwan, Wednesday, 31 July 2024 08:24 (one year ago)
Does he mean like the poor bastard he got 4 years for posting, "Let's have a riot" on Facebook in 2011? I very much doubt it.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 08:30 (one year ago)
A thread on the clean-up.
This is how Southport responded.A group of around 100 members of the community are repairing damage to the local mosque, seen here rebuilding a wall.St Luke’s Road, last night strewn with rubble and debris, has already been cleared. pic.twitter.com/NOZ0JAKdsp— On The Spot News (@ots_southport) July 31, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 31 July 2024 09:48 (one year ago)
I understand the urge to debunk some of the false information that led up to this but tbh the only response that's ok is "there can be no possible justification for racist violence". Fuck trying to reason with fascists
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 11:48 (one year ago)
🧵1/ Thread on the #Southport anti-migrant and anti-Muslim disinformation and propaganda. In this thread I highlight key spreaders of disinformation, the chronology, and some points about some of the inauthentic activity evident. I will focus on X. pic.twitter.com/FepWxb402p— Marc Owen Jones (@marcowenjones) July 30, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 12:00 (one year ago)
Sorry but this is the funniest fash riot scene you’ll see, bar none. Hall of Famer. pic.twitter.com/WlKCPWDzSm— Tim Brannigan (@tim_brannigan) July 30, 2024
― nashwan, Wednesday, 31 July 2024 13:29 (one year ago)
right in the nuts
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 13:32 (one year ago)
marvelous!
― Ste, Wednesday, 31 July 2024 13:41 (one year ago)
No he's only got one ball just like his hero.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 13:45 (one year ago)
https://img.gifglobe.com/grabs/montypython/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian/gif/hA32CT0n41y9.gif
― Ste, Wednesday, 31 July 2024 14:01 (one year ago)
Has someone put the Man Getting Hit by Football boink noise on it yet?
It's fantastic viewing, really rewards repeat watches, I didn't even notice he gets concussed in the first few seconds while giving it large the first few times
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 15:08 (one year ago)
None of you have anything to say about Asian people being attacked in the streets or mosques across the country being targeted?
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:25 (one year ago)
This is what my father and his siblings would describe growing up in London in the 70s. We’ve come full circle and it’s really grim to see. https://t.co/5Yz9wcaDr9— Hamza Yusuf (@Hamza_a96) July 31, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:27 (one year ago)
it has been building for a while. in the run up to the election farage leaned heavily on islamophobia, more so than ever before.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:35 (one year ago)
A 17-year-old boy who is charged with three counts of murder and 10 counts of attempted murder after a knife attack at a Taylor Swift-themed dance class in Southport can be named as Axel Rudakubana, the recorder of Liverpool, Judge Andrew Menary KC has ruled.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:39 (one year ago)
(xp) Local MP... Richard Tice.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:39 (one year ago)
Strike that, he's Boston. I knew it was some racist hellhole in the east of England.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:41 (one year ago)
To combat this would mean unravelling the racist discourse which has benefitted both politicians and the media class since Iraq so that's not going to happen.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:42 (one year ago)
it's not just Farage with his Trumpian "people tell me [some dubious racist bullshit]" response to Southport. Cunts like Starmer and Ashworth have played their own part in promoting and normalising islamophobia and so many Labour MPs. I saw this kid racially abusing the kids across the road when they were playing out in their white mosque clothes. They weren't taking it though, one of them shouted back "shut your mouth, you fat ugly pig!"
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:52 (one year ago)
Ashworth is a disgrace and, of course, the media love him so much.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:54 (one year ago)
Do feel like I want to see MPs and others pointing out publicly that this racist response from EDL/TR devotees is in stark contrast to their apparent disinterest in the recent murder of three women by a British Army veteran.
― nashwan, Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:02 (one year ago)
I’m fairly certain Ashworth has been on TV more in the last week than he ever was in the last Parliament
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:09 (one year ago)
In any case it’s fucking scary out there
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:12 (one year ago)
I really hate Ashworth with a level of violence above how much I hate Starmer. That interview he did about the intimidation he suffered i.e. one of his muslim constituents repeatedly asking him why he abstained on the ceasefire vote. He said he had to go hide in a vicarage (obv dogwhistle) to escape this unrelenting physical assault upon him. A lying scumbag who doesn't feel democratically accountable, his constituents owe it all to him
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:20 (one year ago)
the guy who took his seat wasn't some radical lefty who was setting his thugs onto him, he's a mild mannered optician with a highly visible presence in the community. You wouldn't think so by the way Ashworth was slurring him on UK media.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:28 (one year ago)
Wanna go to see a film tonight, just down from the commons (ica) and sadly thinking that maybe I'll stay home.
Almost certainly be OK but you pause.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:38 (one year ago)
None of you have anything to say about Asian people being attacked in the streets or mosques across the country being targeted?― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:25 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:25 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yeah, but today it's all about the funny man being hit with two bricks lol and so on...
― Mark G, Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:54 (one year ago)
xp I’m so sorry
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 August 2024 12:56 (one year ago)
The various flavours of Islamophobia that have been allowed to flourish in the UK with no pushback whatsoever from any non-Muslim centre or left political leaders apart from you-know-who makes me sick. Labour have really poked the hornet’s nest with all their bullshit denigrating independent candidates and refusal to speak up when Muslim colleagues are the victims of racism and misogyny.
On this year’s Islamophobia Awareness Day my hijabi British Bangladeshi neighbour had to go to the police because some arsehole on a bus in Camden spat on her and told her to go back from whence she came (she is from Leather Lane IIRC).
If you make your way to the ICA from lower Regent Street/Waterloo Place steps always seems miles away from anything awful happening on Whitehall/Trafalgar Square, stay safe J x
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 1 August 2024 13:04 (one year ago)
I'll see. Its alright.
You learn to price it all in.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 August 2024 13:07 (one year ago)
Thanks
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 August 2024 13:08 (one year ago)
Absolutely horrendous shit and sorry that you have to fret about it at all comrade, and everybody else having to deal with being unsafe in the street
If I was a pie-eyed optimist I'd say this needs immediate strong words and actions from the government - a clear and meaningful response. But, well, we all know don't we? Fascist island
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 August 2024 14:23 (one year ago)
Maybe the "MPs for Gaza", to use Jonathan Ashworth's phrase, can raise it in Parliament.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 August 2024 14:38 (one year ago)
Yes, can't say it better than that. Sorry for all who may be feeling that extra pressure.
There's a few donation funds going for Southport victims families but not sure any are really geared towards supporting those others bearing the brunt of this racist violence.
― nashwan, Thursday, 1 August 2024 15:55 (one year ago)
If you are MUSLIM or could get mistaken as one, PLEASE BE VIGILANT and travel in GROUPS‼️⚠️What a time to be alive, feels like I’m living in the stories from the 60s/ 70’s Britain 🤮 pic.twitter.com/5HDTDscXd8— Lipa Nessa ⚽️🍉 (@lipa_nessa) August 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 07:21 (one year ago)
Why woukd the PM, on a massive majority learn any lessons, from anyone?
A lesson for Starmer that you cannot control anti-migrant messaging to your preferred level of “sensible” hostility.You cede the ground to racists when you speak against migrants.These thugs want to see rivers of blood. They do not speak for ordinary Brits. But our govt must.— Zoe Gardner (@ZoeJardiniere) August 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 09:49 (one year ago)
Such cunts.
The place set alight last night was Citizens Advice, Sunderland. Its manager this morning told me they’re devastated and now trying to figure out how to help the people they were supposed to see #sunderland pic.twitter.com/QAfPmJnJgh— Jonny Blair (@Journo_Blair) August 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 09:53 (one year ago)
I wonder if Starmer even feels any cognitive dissonance between him talking about doing more deportations and then a month later saying fascist hate mobs will be cracked down on by the law. I suspect he hasn't learned anything and doesn't give a fuck.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:10 (one year ago)
guillotine the fucking lot of them
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:10 (one year ago)
a month between the euros and the start of the football season is all it takes to foment this. we need a new tournament to fill the gap so these people get distracted
or guillotine them idk
― imago, Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:12 (one year ago)
Starmer is a racist, this needs to be understood before anything else.
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:22 (one year ago)
Almost as bad as the actual terror, the steady whining from Labour racists, the media, the entire legitimate concerns establishment doing their "how could this happen?" routine
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:43 (one year ago)
When young people, many of them black, did this in London in 2011 the courts sent them to jail very fast, opening at the weekend to move things quickly. 2,158 people were convicted and 1,800 years were handed out in jail time. Often for petty crimes. Starmer was DPP at the time. https://t.co/Kc2SulItnc— The Cassandra Centre (@CassandraCentre) August 2, 2024
come on Kieth, where are the night courts dishing out summary justice to rioters this time
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:46 (one year ago)
"a month between the euros and the start of the football season is all it takes to foment this. we need a new tournament to fill the gap so these people get distracted"
This is not some August silly season type event.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:47 (one year ago)
whatever it is, there does seem a telling reluctance to deal with it anything like appropriately
― imago, Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:58 (one year ago)
And some of these cunts were probably at both Euros finals xp
― nashwan, Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:59 (one year ago)
This is a racist country. And the flames have been kept going by years of demonizing of migrants, and "stop the boats" talk. Not sure what football has to do with it.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 11:03 (one year ago)
It's impossible to triangulate this, so Kieth and his handlers will just dither because they still want nazi thugs to vote for them
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 August 2024 11:05 (one year ago)
The actual nazi thugs will never vote for them. But the polite racists who want to understand will continue to handwave them
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 August 2024 11:06 (one year ago)
Any increase on the 4 cunts arrested after the Southport riot? The comparison with the 2011 riots or climate protesters... well it hardly needs to be stated.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 August 2024 11:17 (one year ago)
This is a racist country.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 12:03
Yep. But with many non-racist people in it, who were represented in parliament from 2015-2019. I think it's important to note that, as pollyanna-ish as it may sound. There is a large and growing anti-racist voter bloc. The existing racism is magnified and exacerbated by the media, the establishment, and the majority of parliamentary MPs. In that sense "the country" is racist. But let's distinguish that from people/voters, more and more of whom are anti-racist.
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 3 August 2024 13:15 (one year ago)
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 3 August 2024 11:22 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
— on riots, Starmer is trying to strike a balance between repelling the far-right and what he said on Thursday were the “understandable fears” of normal Brits— crime and borders will be almost as important for his govt as the economy, ally sayshttps://t.co/T3xQA8Ygvu— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) August 3, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 3 August 2024 13:27 (one year ago)
Oh yes, let’s hear about racism from someone who thought it was OK to start his career at Guido Fawkes. /side-eye
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 3 August 2024 13:34 (one year ago)
I notice Kemi Badenoch is going down the "people aren't being listened to" route over Southport and Hartlepool, stopped short of "... so no wonder" but you can join those dots for yourselves.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 August 2024 13:58 (one year ago)
There is a large and growing anti-racist voter bloc. The existing racism is magnified and exacerbated by the media, the establishment, and the majority of parliamentary MPs. In that sense "the country" is racist. But let's distinguish that from people/voters, more and more of whom are anti-racist.
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 3 August 2024 bookmarkflaglink
What is this anti-racist voter bloc? The green party don't give a shit. The Independents have won a tiny number of seats over Gaza and you can see the pushback that's gotten across the political and media class.
And that doesn't help when gangs of thugs are protesting, make streets in parts of the country are safe. Be honest about what we are facing.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 18:53 (one year ago)
I hear what glumdalclitch is saying re the voters, and I get that cos I used to think the same way, but the country is fundamentally racist through its structures, media and leadership and that is the problem allowing what’s going on to happen.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:01 (one year ago)
Also interesting how race riots here are absolutely no interest outside this thread on ilx 🙃
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:04 (one year ago)
might pick up more traction if somebody polls their favourite race riots
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:10 (one year ago)
I would like to post about race riots but don't know what to say except "fucking hell this is bad"
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:38 (one year ago)
I saw a clip earlier of one of these fascist grunts with a distinctly non-Merseyside accent saying: When people like Donald Trump tell the truth, they get called far Right - just like us. Politicians should be saying these people are an irredeemable contaminant, this should be the death knell for legitimate concernism - but no it wont be. Starmer is likely a racist, he's also a shit politician. As mentioned upthread, triangulating fascism, even from a morally vacuous realpolitik standpoint is a losing game for Labour. Also a losing game for any non-white people in the country. Fucked up times.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:43 (one year ago)
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:53 (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 3 August 2024 20:01 (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Well, but this is exactly what I'm saying though. The only part where we may disagree is about the voters. "Bloc" is maybe a misleading word if it's taken to indicate a formal political grouping, but as for who these anti-racist voters are - 12m in 2017 and 10m in 2019. And a good many counter-protesters and helpers who we've seen in the videos in Liverpool, Southport, Sunderland. If the far-right is representative of the population as you're suggesting, and I'm sure they are, why not those on the other side? They aren't just freaks of nature somehow captured on video using wishful-thinking, they are real people out there standing up for their communities. Many of them didn't vote Labour this time round.
I'm not blind to the reality, which is why I'm distinguishing between the reality of the racist power structures and media racism-consent-manufacturing machine, and the people on the ground who aren't part of those things.
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:51 (one year ago)
I want to go to a counter-protest seeing as there are gonna be more opportunities to, gotta show up if able to - enough is enough indeed.
― nashwan, Saturday, 3 August 2024 19:52 (one year ago)
Yes. And the least we can do is recognise they are happening and support them. And maybe I'm naive but they demonstrate something real about what many feel in the cities.
https://x.com/AntiRacismDay/with_replies
Worth scrolling down on this account and looking at the vids of counter-protests in Manchester, Nottingham, Leeds, Bristol. It gives you some hope. I know it's not enough.
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 3 August 2024 20:21 (one year ago)
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 3 August 2024 20:39 (one year ago)
Honestly I wrote a long comment but I deleted it because it’s not worth it but I just want to scream at it all. It’s fucking awful.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 3 August 2024 20:47 (one year ago)
(Not at you Cams or any of you itt, just to be clear).
Every time I check Twitter now I’m seeing black and Asian people being attacked by gangs of thugs in towns and cities around the country. We need to hear urgently from the government and they need to label this as the racist violence that it is.— Liam Thorp (@LiamThorpECHO) August 3, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 3 August 2024 20:49 (one year ago)
This is getting shockingly little coverage in the US, including MSM and social media.
― default damager (lukas), Saturday, 3 August 2024 21:06 (one year ago)
This is getting shockingly little coverage in the US, on both news sites and social media.
― default damager (lukas), Saturday, 3 August 2024 21:10 (one year ago)
Outside a hotel in Redcliffe, Bristol - the hotel is being protected by hundreds of Bristolians shouting ‘We are many, you are few. We are Bristol, who are you?’ to a group of around 100 protesters who had marched on the hotel pic.twitter.com/EbAqHzpzr9— Tristan Cork Post (@TristanCorkPost) August 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 21:20 (one year ago)
Scary shit in Bristol tonight, had to hold the line as fascists fought their way to the front of a hotel that houses refugees.Only 6 cops on bikes present, police horses finally arrived when they'd got to about 5m from the door.Proud of Bristol but still fucking shaking. WTF— W (@Whagwan_W) August 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 22:00 (one year ago)
This place was burnt down today https://t.co/LY6raQfcfR— Samplo Corvodina (@TreborRhurbarb) August 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 August 2024 22:22 (one year ago)
Jesus
― plax (ico), Sunday, 4 August 2024 00:16 (one year ago)
What the fuck
― trm (tombotomod), Sunday, 4 August 2024 00:20 (one year ago)
Burning books huh
Liverpool's Spellow Lane library torched last night. What could be more 'patriotic' than destroying a centre which serves the local community? pic.twitter.com/QNPRv9UWcC— Carl Hendrick (@C_Hendrick) August 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 August 2024 11:16 (one year ago)
horrifying racial violence in cities & towns right across this wretched country. THIS IS NOT NEW. racist pogroms against Black & Asian ppl in port towns in 1919, in Liverpool 1948, in Notting Hill & Nottingham 1958, in Oldham, Burnley, Bradford in 2001, echo our awful present— michael (@Sisyphusa) August 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 August 2024 11:20 (one year ago)
Definitely concerned for the children
That library’s been used as a food bank but they’re burning it down to “save our kids” remember https://t.co/NJEszIkzKe— Tom (@TomLFC_98) August 3, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Sunday, 4 August 2024 11:58 (one year ago)
I bet most of them voted for food banks.
racist people are sharing a video of a minor fracas down the road from on friday night. It was a minor shoving match between two groups of Asian lads by the petrol station in Savile Town. There were no arrests so obv the cops have gone woke. Or alternatively there were no arrests because there were no injuries, nothing was damaged, nobody was throwing bricks at coppers etc
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 4 August 2024 12:48 (one year ago)
well, Labour voters voted for Food Banks this time, but not in 2019
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 4 August 2024 12:50 (one year ago)
Anyone know of any gofundmes going around for the victims of these fucking thugs?
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 4 August 2024 12:57 (one year ago)
Hoey is the id of the Labour right
Quite correct. The term Far Right has been hijacked as a label to condemn anyone who has legitimate concerns about the level of illegal and legal immigration and its effects on cohesive communities https://t.co/R5rHHrziul— Kate Hoey (@CatharineHoey) August 3, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 August 2024 13:49 (one year ago)
And contra Goodwin's comment there:
I think it does need to be emphasized that the numbers at these "demonstrations" are incredibly small - a Palestine solidarity organizer would delete their account in shame. You can't claim that a "protest" represents the legitimate views of a section of society if there's only >— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) August 4, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 August 2024 13:51 (one year ago)
Fund for those impacted in Belfast https://localgiving.org/fundraising/buildsolidaritybelfast
― mediumrarexxl, Sunday, 4 August 2024 13:52 (one year ago)
... a few dozen people (and indeed almost no women) there. groups that small are definitionally not representative. all it shows is that fewer than a hundred thugs can make a town centre uninhabitable and do a lot of damage. which we already know from the history of football.— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) August 4, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 August 2024 13:52 (one year ago)
i spent the morning writing something longer about all this but events have evidently caught up with a vengeance, so i'll skip to the point:
violence has been averted in places where the counter came out in larger numbers (bristol, nottingham), and that's good obviously, but while it's true that the nazis aren't out in huge numbers anywhere, in rotherham enough of them came out to scatter both the counter and the police, and now a migrant hostel is on fire, possibly with ppl still in it
this is very very fucked up and horrible
― mark s, Sunday, 4 August 2024 14:33 (one year ago)
Fund for those impacted in Belfast https://localgiving.org/fundraising/buildsolidaritybelfast🕸
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Sunday, 4 August 2024 14:34 (one year ago)
cosineI don’t understand the decision to call these rioters “protestors”. they are just violent, racist rioters trying to make people feel unsafe. how is this a “protest”????? i feel like i’m losing my mind. yes this allows the establishment to both-sides what they’re doing, and bring in sweeping anti-disorder legislation that also punishes peace marches. but… idk that seems too bleak to consider that the media and the political establishment are doing that deliberately
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 4 August 2024 14:55 (one year ago)
Traffic getting controlled via the colour of your skin. Peaceful protest, what a joke. #Middlesbrough pic.twitter.com/pwrWlx62Ey— Darren Hornsby (@DarrenHornsby_) August 4, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Sunday, 4 August 2024 15:50 (one year ago)
Politicians and journalists to use “Islamophobia” and “racism” challenge 🧐— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) August 4, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Sunday, 4 August 2024 15:51 (one year ago)
this is Keir's most recent tweet:
1 Davis Cup, 2 Olympic golds and 3 Grand Slams.But more than that, thanks @andy_murray for two decades of phenomenal entertainment and sportsmanship.A true British great.— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) August 1, 2024
― symsymsym, Sunday, 4 August 2024 15:56 (one year ago)
"Muslim Defence League" trending on Twitter - it appears to have been invented by Tommy Robinson of the EDL, and is largely used to refer to any non-white group not hiding at home but looking to keep their communities safe.
The 'two tier policing' shit is even more infuriating / despair-producing, coming the day after Trevor Morris spoke up at the spy cops trial in defence of fraudulently entering into two relationships, while defending British interests by: spying on the justice for Steven Lawrence campaign.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/02/met-chiefs-apology-to-deceived-women-outrageous-says-ex-undercover-officer
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 4 August 2024 16:27 (one year ago)
BREAKING: Question Time to cancel filming this week as audience busy rioting— jewdⒶs // ייִדהודה (@jewdas) August 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 August 2024 21:35 (one year ago)
This is disgusting.
This is not the first time I have raised in the chamber that residents of Tamworth want their hotel back. I will work closely with the new Government and Home Secretary to end the use of the Holiday Inn for asylum purposes. pic.twitter.com/BxELsOw82U— Sarah Edwards for Tamworth (@SarahEdwardsTam) July 30, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 August 2024 21:38 (one year ago)
"Tamworth benefits from local tourism""the Holiday Inn should be for holidays"
I contest these points.
― does Guitar George really know "all the chords"? I suspect he doesn't (Matt #2), Sunday, 4 August 2024 21:51 (one year ago)
xpShe posted that on Tuesday. I wonder if she's going to update us, instead of going on about Viking longboats. Her banner heading is also a lovely example of the "racist rhetoric" Starmer condemned today.
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 August 2024 21:55 (one year ago)
this was also illuminating from our pro-British broadcating corp
BBC reporter has just described rioters as "a pro-British march" pic.twitter.com/IR8695kGWF— Ted Booth (@tedgbooth) August 4, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 August 2024 21:57 (one year ago)
Holy hell
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 4 August 2024 22:26 (one year ago)
fucking disgusting
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 August 2024 22:33 (one year ago)
doing my meager best to talk abt this on socials, good luck UK, this is all awful and the reframing is particularly disturbing, just saw a Guardian article referring to them as "protesters" which is just as insidiously poisonous.
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Sunday, 4 August 2024 22:36 (one year ago)
i started a designated thread if ppl want it (on board 7 to deter hostile drive-by, apologies to those who disapprove of board 7): https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=115170#unread
― mark s, Monday, 5 August 2024 09:25 (one year ago)
here: https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=115170
― mark s, Monday, 5 August 2024 09:26 (one year ago)
BREAKING: Courts will be open and sitting for 24 hours a day under government plans to crack down on rioters
I missed this from the other day, the Night Courts are indeed back.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 5 August 2024 11:16 (one year ago)
Zane’s Sultana being allowed to speak on C4 news and she is STORMING.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Monday, 5 August 2024 18:43 (one year ago)
Ed Balls this morning on GMB. Meet the arrogant racist shutting down Zara Sultana from speaking, now meet his racist home sec wife as he interviews her. Normal country.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 5 August 2024 19:44 (one year ago)
From the top down. https://t.co/3I6M1HNsn0 pic.twitter.com/vjaahblMt3— C (@Obseyxx) August 4, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 5 August 2024 20:06 (one year ago)
― trm (tombotomod), Monday, 5 August 2024 20:08 (one year ago)
I’m so sorry y’all
― trm (tombotomod), Monday, 5 August 2024 20:09 (one year ago)
Robert Jenrick criticised for saying people shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ should be arrested
― Mark G, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 16:11 (one year ago)
"This language from Jenrick is more of his usual nasty divisive rhetoric - he is such a tool."
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:13 (one year ago)
... Baroness Warsi.
Warsi couldn't get a gig in the Labour Party today, even if she wanted one, and it's not economic differences
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:19 (one year ago)
She's from Dewsbury, a small c conservative daughter of a humble bedmaker, but still way too the left of Starmer and much more likable and principled.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:34 (one year ago)
Yeah no Dunt but I respect her fighting back consistently on this
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:37 (one year ago)
this is astonishing to me
Derek Drummond, 58, who punched a police officer in the face and was part of a crowd that made racist chants outside a Southport mosque last week, was jailed for three years at Liverpool Crown Court on Wednesday.
In the same fast-tracked hearing, two other men — Liam Riley, 40, and Declan Geiran, 29 — received prison terms of 20 months and 30 months, respectively, for their involvement in violence last week in Liverpool...
is the U.S. it would be years before a sentencing occurred.. this is fast justice!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:43 (one year ago)
xp
there was a point when she was a rising star in the Cameron era, but as soon as she kept loudly calling out Tory Islamophobia, that was the end of that.
Kieth is a Judge Dredd fan
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:45 (one year ago)
some of the sentences are soft as shit compared to what the JSO *conspirators* got. People getting 30 months for attempted arson homicide. Just shoot the lot of them.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:48 (one year ago)
Yeah, and when the baseline apparently starts at that student who got 6 months for stealing some bottled water in 2011
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:07 (one year ago)
in the U.S. it would be years before a sentencing occurred.. this is fast justice!
Unlike the less fashionable end of the UK courts system which has pretty much ground to a standstill, probably not helped by facilities now being put aside for all this.
― does Guitar George really know "all the chords"? (Matt #2), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:12 (one year ago)
Yvette Cooper claimed prison places are ready for this wave of fast justice. Prison governors on the other hand, have said no there isn't.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:19 (one year ago)
someone has sent a screenshot from sky news.apparently they have a sidebar with a QR code for updates on this.it's like they are treating it like a day out at the f*cking races.
― mark e, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:55 (one year ago)
Massive antifascist turnout in Walthamstow this evening
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 21:44 (one year ago)
nice to see Stella Creasy is so avowedly antifascist + concerned enough for her constituents to not bother showing up. Hopefully another lousy Labour MP that will get usurped by a decent independant next GE.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 8 August 2024 09:53 (one year ago)
https://t.co/iEeADQ6xnO pic.twitter.com/Oto49BYUVr— Terry Fuck (@terryfuck45) August 8, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 August 2024 10:02 (one year ago)
apparently she did turn up, or at least she claimed she did, only hours after warning her constituents away
xpost
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 August 2024 10:12 (one year ago)
lmao high qual tweet
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 August 2024 10:13 (one year ago)
call the cops, some valour has been stolen
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 8 August 2024 10:14 (one year ago)
Follow police advice in the morning, turn up to the demo for a cheeky photo in the evening, vote for racism and genocide the next day!
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 August 2024 10:19 (one year ago)
Whether its wrong or right have a look. The guy going down works in IT, where a lot of people from India work in (whether here or offshore).
38 months jail for a tweet is insane sorry. We cannot stand behind this obscene state authoritarianism and applaud https://t.co/Z0yMsv5Xzm— Dan Evans (@dai_alectic) August 10, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 August 2024 10:02 (one year ago)
They are going to build more jails.
Self defence is no offence! https://t.co/oSrPs50ql1— michael (@Sisyphusa) August 10, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 August 2024 10:09 (one year ago)
good times for behemoths like Serco or G4S, chuck up some quickie prisons, more big govt contracts mo money, thank god we got the tories out
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 10 August 2024 10:40 (one year ago)
still waiting for Douglas Murray and his ilk to delete all their most inflammatory posts to avoid prison time, or does the law as it is currently being enforced just apply to low follower count unknown plods?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 10 August 2024 10:52 (one year ago)
God, imagine how embarrassing it would be for Douglas Murray, Andrew Neil, Fraser Nelson, Melanie Phillips and all the other people that Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer mingled with at the Spectator garden party to be implicated in the incitement to racist violent disorder, god that would be rather *makes gulping sound, pulls collar*
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 10 August 2024 11:25 (one year ago)
criminal hate speech only applies to people who don't matter
it's an unpleasant situation because on the one hand i absolutely do not care what happens to racists and fascists but on the other hand we have an extremely authoritarian government who are gonna make full use of this situation to legislate against their ideological enemies and suppress dissent
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 August 2024 12:12 (one year ago)
Lewis Richardson shares his Great Britain flag with fellow boxing medalist, Cindy Ngamba ❤️Ngamba represented the Refugee Olympic Team at Paris 2024 after being denied British citizenship this year. She has lived in the UK since the age of 11 🇬🇧 pic.twitter.com/91gTotwTF4— Eurosport (@eurosport) August 10, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 August 2024 16:28 (one year ago)
almost vomited seeing that GMB clip of Ashworth sniggering about austerity and the *tough choices*. I'm not going to post what kind of fait I hope should befall this guy because I might just end up with a 30 month prison sentence. Nevertheless, I hope he slowly gets eaten alive by a gang of extra large coconut crabs. Rejected by the electorate, that's ok you'll be invited onto GMB every day, just in case they are missing you.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 August 2024 10:25 (one year ago)
Coconut crabs is an interesting touch. Ugly fellas aren’t they? Was there a nature programme I missed on them?
On the Nicobarian Kamorta Island, it is believed that eating the crab leads to bad luck and can cause severe, sometimes fatal, illnesses. In cases where a local falls ill after consuming the crab, their family creates a wooden replica of the creature. This effigy is then taken to the crab's capture site, where specific rituals are performed.
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Monday, 12 August 2024 10:35 (one year ago)
there is a theory that Amelia Earhart might have been eaten by coconut crabs, this haunts my thoughts occasionally
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 August 2024 10:41 (one year ago)
Calz you are my favourite autodidact. You’re always dropping this stuff & you read more than everyone else on here put together (not an insult to them, praise of you) put together. Anyway I hope that’s not true and she was dead before that happened!
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Monday, 12 August 2024 10:46 (one year ago)
yeah if she was already dead it would be fine, but it doesn't bear thinking that after a crash landing she was injured and defenseless against them. But would pay to see it happen to Ashworth!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 August 2024 10:49 (one year ago)
That is just too The Drawing of the Three for words, brrrr.
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Monday, 12 August 2024 10:52 (one year ago)
Just a terrible episode. Poor guy.
NEW Brendan Nwabichie released a statement appearing to want to draw a line under the Go Fund Me from Claire’s Care He said he won’t do interviews at this time, I also asked about the Mercedes claims and whether they stopped giving him shifts to which he replied no comment pic.twitter.com/oLhw5bge5o— Ayshah Tull (@AyshahTull) August 12, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 August 2024 11:12 (one year ago)
those lobstrosities are not far off coconut crabs, the latter just haven't developed and evolved their human hunting skills ... yet. Ideally I'd like Ashworth to be dumped onto some remote island with the meanest coconut crabs and also lots of vicious, starving komodo dragons
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 August 2024 11:18 (one year ago)
A pro-foxhunting group says it has prepared a legal case to try to prove that hunters are an ethnic minority whose hunts should be protected under equality laws.Ed Swales, the chair of Hunting Kind, claims he has been advised by a leading human rights lawyer that hunters unequivocally qualify for legal protection under the UK Equality Act 2010.
Ed Swales, the chair of Hunting Kind, claims he has been advised by a leading human rights lawyer that hunters unequivocally qualify for legal protection under the UK Equality Act 2010.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/12/pro-foxhunting-group-says-uk-hunters-protected-ethnic-minority
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 12 August 2024 12:40 (one year ago)
can't argue that the landed gentry and the various bootlicking parasites that attach to them are not a minority. It's ethnicity claim that is preposterous.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 August 2024 12:52 (one year ago)
Here is footage of that meeting between Ed Swales and that human-rights lawyer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHLE7yKQofo
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 August 2024 12:53 (one year ago)
a long time ago I used to assume that if someone was a human rights lawyer, it would mean they were on the progressive end of the political spectrum...
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 August 2024 12:58 (one year ago)
This is not the thread I would have expected for The Dark Tower chat, but I can't say it doesn't fit.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 12 August 2024 13:39 (one year ago)
i see Labour friends of genocide have Clive Lewis in their sights
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 12 August 2024 14:02 (one year ago)
Yes 40% of ppl here are racist sounds about right.
13/ Lastly, we discovered how Brits feel about violence towards immigrants. 68% disagree that 'Hostility towards refugees is sometimes justified, even if it ends in violence' however 39% agree that violence is something the only means to get the attention of politicians. pic.twitter.com/XgshZ8mazS— WeThink (@wethinkpolling) August 12, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 August 2024 20:13 (one year ago)
wtf
― octobeard, Monday, 12 August 2024 20:28 (one year ago)
that is so grim, fucking hell
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 12 August 2024 20:35 (one year ago)
tbf the question already assumes "we have a refugee problem" and a lot of ppl don't know when "I disagree with the premisr of this question" is an option
not that I'm more optimistic about the percentage of racists
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 12 August 2024 20:37 (one year ago)
I hope they only polled England and Northern Ireland.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Monday, 12 August 2024 20:50 (one year ago)
some people just agree with whomever talks to them. I talked to this bloke from around the corner, he's an aging construction industry type who dresses up smart in a suit up for evening mass every sunday, a mild mannered giant. He agreed with me that fascist violence is not good and these people are scum. Then about 20 minutes later I'm sat in my back garden and hear this guy saying to him they just need to round all these fuckers up, put a fence around them and deport the lot of them. And he was again in complete agreement.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 August 2024 20:51 (one year ago)
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Monday, 12 August 2024 20:51 (one year ago)
People huh
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 August 2024 20:59 (one year ago)
Anything for an easy life (unless you're an asylum seeker of course)
― in search of a space (Matt #2), Monday, 12 August 2024 21:21 (one year ago)
politicians literally won't fucking stop talking about refugee boats and yet 40% of the population think violence is needed to get them to be more hateful towards immigrants, i don't know what the answer is here guys
been thinking about the May-era hostile environment policies and how we're know seeing our fellow voters taking it upon themselves to enact that at citizen level, no more home office teams breaking down your door at six in the morning, we'll have some cunts with bricks and iron bars do it in broad daylight instead
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 12 August 2024 21:38 (one year ago)
know
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 12 August 2024 21:39 (one year ago)
I mean the answer is politicians pushing back, but they don't have the moral fibre or strength to say that more migration is needed, so they won't back it with policy.
Migrants will huddle together and protect their communities. Many will go to jail, but its up to us to back them in anyway they can to change the national conversation.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 August 2024 00:07 (one year ago)
Ofsted has published new data showing how children's homes have become a huge, money-spinning business. If you are squeamish about these things, look away now. 🧵— Martin Barrow (@MartinBarrow) August 13, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 August 2024 11:20 (one year ago)
It is wild that members of the public are facing potential prison time for what basically amount to reporting errors. When has this standard ever been applied to the print media!! pic.twitter.com/yYbaNYEg1W— Callum Cant (@CallumCant1) August 14, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 August 2024 09:13 (one year ago)
Good to see the government protecting the reputation of Yaxley-Lennon
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 August 2024 10:20 (one year ago)
The dangerous far-left agitators at (checks notes)
What happened last night was not funny. Far-left activists disrupted the event, which then had to be stopped for security reasons.This is done to intimidate people and suppress free speech. I won't stand for it.Would we see the same reaction if the activists were far-right?— Liz Truss (@trussliz) August 14, 2024
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 14 August 2024 22:58 (one year ago)
Donked by Ladies
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2024 05:02 (one year ago)
the only fair and impartial thing to do rn would be to prosecute LBD with the full weight of recent anti-protest measures, and lock them up. Is this as cutting as they get under a Labour govt, taking the piss out of irrelevant washed-up tories
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 15 August 2024 06:44 (one year ago)
"Bridget Phillipson has said foreign students make a huge contribution to the UK’s town and cities, but she has no plans to change recent Tory visa restrictions"So the Government will spend more bailing out universities to pander to racists. Wrong choicehttps://t.co/HT5dQCh0mY— Andrew Fisher (@FisherAndrew79) August 15, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 August 2024 11:00 (one year ago)
That's not very Change
― you'll find this funny, children (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2024 11:49 (one year ago)
The change is it's being said in a canny Geordie accent.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 August 2024 11:54 (one year ago)
it seems anti-growth policies are ok as long they are racist continuity tory ones.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 15 August 2024 12:02 (one year ago)
Really sad.
Amer Walid jailed for 20 months for throwing a beer can back at fascists in Plymouth, he don’t drink. What happened to self defence is no offence? “What you should have done was simply rise above their obnoxious racism." Someone give this man a good lawyer https://t.co/A34O4WEnVs— Shareefa Energy (@ShareefaEnergy) August 15, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 16 August 2024 08:23 (one year ago)
never mind the absolutely fucking preposterous sentencing, it shouldn't have even made it to court
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 August 2024 08:33 (one year ago)
people at music festivals have thrown bottles of piss at performers without getting arrested ffs
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 August 2024 08:36 (one year ago)
there can't be any legal precedent for this, it's insane
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 August 2024 08:37 (one year ago)
It’s incredibly sad. It’s also very, very important that people going to counter-protests know what self defence means. Organisers have been consistent in emphasising that you need to be prepared to defend yourself under immediate threat of violence but if you get provoked into doing something stupid (in this case being filmed by police throwing multiple missiles into a crowd of people), the only person who you are going to end up harming is yourself. idk what people think ‘a good lawyer’ is going to do in this situation.
― ShariVari, Friday, 16 August 2024 08:38 (one year ago)
so it wasn't just throwing a single can?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 August 2024 08:40 (one year ago)
So much for Two Tier Keir.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Friday, 16 August 2024 08:42 (one year ago)
His original story was that it was one can but the police had bodycam footage of him throwing at least four things.
It sucks and the sentence is manifestly unfair but the judge was pretty sympathetic to him. It probably wouldn’t have been 20 months under other circumstances but there are harsh sentencing guidelines for participating in ‘major disorder’ which means that most of the people involved are going to get 2-5 years.
― ShariVari, Friday, 16 August 2024 08:52 (one year ago)
Once I was in Batley town centre and some young dickheads were giving my son some disablist abuse. I told them to stfu and carried on. A driver also stopped and told them to stfu and one of them threw a can at the car. I reported it to the police and they said they'd look at the cctv but there was no follow up. No 20 month sentences.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 August 2024 08:54 (one year ago)
Kieth the Chief of Grief
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 August 2024 09:06 (one year ago)
but there are harsh sentencing guidelines for participating in ‘major disorder’ which means that most of the people involved are going to get 2-5 years.
― ShariVari, Friday, 16 August 2024 bookmarkflaglink
These rushed guidelines are the problem, but yes the government or the police are not ever going to have your back, especially on a problem which is partly of their creation.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 16 August 2024 09:37 (one year ago)
I think the guidelines go back to 2020, at least, but are very much a part of the wider crackdown on ‘disorder’ that the Tories implemented and Labour is unlikely to reverse. Smash the window of TK Maxx on a Friday night you will probably get community service, smash it as part of a riot / protest you’ll get 20 months, etc.
― ShariVari, Friday, 16 August 2024 09:47 (one year ago)
Ah right.
"that the Tories implemented and Labour is unlikely to reverse"
Many such things.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 16 August 2024 09:57 (one year ago)
they will be making dangerous cuts while referring to the Truss mini-budget crashing the economy for years to come.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 August 2024 10:11 (one year ago)
Interesting story that seems not to be getting coverage in the British press.
The fact that a senior civil servant who specialised in assessing arms exports to Israel has ended his 18-year career because he thinks the Foreign Office "may be complicit in war crimes", and not a single national outlet has reported it, is frightening. We have a captive media. https://t.co/Y6M4sWn8M3— Rivkah Brown (@rivkahbrown) August 16, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 17 August 2024 10:32 (one year ago)
They talked with him this morning on The Today show, is it being reported anywhere else now?
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 19 August 2024 07:55 (one year ago)
was on the guardian website yesterday
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 19 August 2024 07:58 (one year ago)
Off to The Village with him!
― imago, Monday, 19 August 2024 08:03 (one year ago)
Everywhere from the Independent to the Daily Mail today.
― ShariVari, Monday, 19 August 2024 08:50 (one year ago)
Earlier this month, the far right set fire to hotels housing asylum seekers. Today, the government announced a "major surge" in deportations and promised to re-open detention centres.The government could have stood up to the far right. Instead, it pandered to them.— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) August 21, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 August 2024 15:19 (one year ago)
Pussy.
Jonathan Ashworth described it as the most vitriolic campaign he’d ever been a part of and described being forced to hide in a vicarage. pic.twitter.com/INNlEfbYw0— Ed Campbell (@edcmpbl) August 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:00 (one year ago)
get thee to a vicarage
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:13 (one year ago)
does he think Muslims can't cross the threshold of a vicarage or something?
― the news is terrible, i'm in the clear (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:27 (one year ago)
also amongst this dog whistle ramble he also laughably talks about being a "northern lad" in that creepsome New Labour version of an accent he has. There were4 no actual physical threats towards him from his constituents, unfortunately. He doesn't understand what vitriol even means, it is a word unrelated to democratic accountability.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:35 (one year ago)
Well even murderers could claim sanctuary in churches in mediaeval times. I don't think they would have accepted Ashworth though.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:36 (one year ago)
having a slimy white racist MP in areas with sizable ethnic minorities. One who is hardly ever in the place and indifferent to Israel genocide and prone to making racist statements, well that might be politically difficult from now on for Labour going forwards. If you call that "vitriolic" then you aren't really getting it and your failed political career is all on you.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:51 (one year ago)
Libs are always like 'let's make a plan', 'better regulation', 'strategy'...this time its while people die in winter.
3/ In the short term, we will do everything in our power to protect billpayers, including:• reforming the regulator so it is a consumer champion• working to make standing charges fairer• introducing a Warm Homes Plan— Ed Miliband (@Ed_Miliband) August 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 August 2024 09:25 (one year ago)
maybe some more loft insulation might just be the trick. lol, does anyone actually believe that Ofgem could become a "consumer champion". Not even Ed believes that shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 23 August 2024 09:49 (one year ago)
insulate britain (from the risk of ever improving the lives of its citizens)
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 August 2024 10:22 (one year ago)
that Warm Homes Plan in full:
- local hot water bottle banks- investment in draught-excluder startups- the "Let's Have a Brew" initiative.
― fetter, Friday, 23 August 2024 10:36 (one year ago)
a charcoal warmer tin in every pensioners breast pocket
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 23 August 2024 11:04 (one year ago)
Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 23 August 2024 12:01 (one year ago)
Farage and Reform will promise to nationalise energy/the national grid and restore the winter fuel allowance, and grab the pensioner vote
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 23 August 2024 12:38 (one year ago)
master strategist kieth leaving himself open to being flanked from the left by the far right
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 August 2024 12:55 (one year ago)
Crazy inversion of Blairism
Tomorrow’s front page pic.twitter.com/AKkUBtHL4V— The Observer (@ObserverUK) August 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 25 August 2024 09:07 (one year ago)
it's nice when he says something he means tbh
― the news is terrible, i'm in the clear (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 25 August 2024 09:11 (one year ago)
if the day ends with a "y" then it's another tough decisions and legitimate concerns day for Starmer.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 25 August 2024 10:51 (one year ago)
it doesn't even make any sense. 14 years of austerity has broken the economy and plunged millions of people into poverty and destitution, so in order to fix this we need to do harder cuts and it's not our fault.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 25 August 2024 10:55 (one year ago)
It's weird it's almost as if he was obviously a racist authoritarian crank and (a small minority) of people voted for him anyway
― the news is terrible, i'm in the clear (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 25 August 2024 10:55 (one year ago)
He also bizarrely seems to be justifying the riots. Except not bizarrerie when you understand he is a racist
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 25 August 2024 11:07 (one year ago)
yeah he just had to shoehorn that into his speech as well, what a fucking wanker
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 25 August 2024 11:09 (one year ago)
i hate to say it but i didn’t read that statement as justification - he seemed to be saying that the racist rioters felt free to break the law because they knew the jails were full and wouldn’t actually do time? which seems like a bizarre thing to speculate about but hey he’s the prosecutor. he gets very worked up about the mechanics of these things but seldom looks further than thatthe austerity stuff is kind of predictable - it’s canon that you front-load any budgetary pain into the start of a term of office - but given the particular situation the uk is in it is obviously exactly the wrong medicine. if they wait until the year before the next GA to try and unfuck the economy we’re going to see a lot more misery
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 August 2024 11:49 (one year ago)
didn't see any reports about convicted rioters cases being thrown out of court because of a lack of prisons. Such a dumbass thing for a former barrister to say.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:01 (one year ago)
yeah it’s not even… true?
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:04 (one year ago)
if anything the knowledge that UK prisons have become overcrowded hellholes is going to cause a lot of people some extra concern about facing criminal charges
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:11 (one year ago)
Yes but Starmer is very much in tune with the Daily Mail mindset of criminals being free to roam the streets to frighten the horses etc.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:16 (one year ago)
Meanwhile, plus ca change...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/aug/25/labour-donor-quits-treasury-role-amid-cronyism-claims
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:17 (one year ago)
the Mail get to have it both ways, prison capacity is overcrowded and they haven't got enough space to lock more criminals up and also they are holiday camps
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:20 (one year ago)
i hate to say it but i didn’t read that statement as justification - he seemed to be saying that the racist rioters felt free to break the law because they knew the jails were full and wouldn’t actually do time? which seems like a bizarre thing to speculate about but hey he’s the prosecutor. he gets very worked up about the mechanics of these things but seldom looks further than that
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:49
Okay, that's more plausible then, but, though he's not justifying them, he's still giving them another motivation instead of white supremacist pogroms. If the point of his speech is mainly to blame Tory policies, he either shouldn't shoehorn racist riots in that to make a disturbingly inapposite point, or he should blame Tory racist rhetoric for that. But we know why he can't do that. So he ends up excusing the rioters as somehow victims of Tory failure. It's pretty disgusting
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:30 (one year ago)
yes totally agreed
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:36 (one year ago)
luckily for us i think he genuinely is a moron rather than an evil mastermind - it could be worse? sorry grasping at straws here
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:38 (one year ago)
No I think you're right and I agree that a lot of what he says comes from a place of lawyerly pedantry, which is still an expression of his prejudice but at one remove, kind of
― the news is terrible, i'm in the clear (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:53 (one year ago)
I prefer your description of him at 11:55 haha
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 25 August 2024 12:59 (one year ago)
racist crank moron with resting authoritarian face
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 August 2024 13:02 (one year ago)
Really Starmer is like The Guardian come to life, a lot of it is make believe around: Proper management, strategy, surveys/fake listening to people, concerns 'dealt with', but beneath that its authoritarian and nasty, protects wealth and screws the poor and vulnerable.
Except Brexit is not getting undone, so there is always a thing to grumble about.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 25 August 2024 13:10 (one year ago)
Grasping at Jack Straws there.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 August 2024 13:28 (one year ago)
Our statement on the Dagenham fire: pic.twitter.com/vADYMdelhY— Grenfell United (@GrenfellUnited) August 26, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 August 2024 14:22 (one year ago)
The quiet.
Starmer: "There's a budget coming in October. And I will be honest with you- it's going to be painful. We have no other choice, given the situation that we're in...I'll have to turn to the country and make big asks of you as well. To accept short term pain for long term good."— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) August 27, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 August 2024 10:43 (one year ago)
*Medvedev wink*
― nashwan, Tuesday, 27 August 2024 11:42 (one year ago)
guys….. there was an election…. right?
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 August 2024 12:09 (one year ago)
As is being shown in France, you get the neolibs whoever you vote for
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 27 August 2024 12:10 (one year ago)
Saw this story yesterday but tbh Lab right politicians would look at any excuse to be persuaded to not invest etc.
Depressing article revealing how a lobbyist convinced the chancellor that private finance can replace public investment It really can’t https://t.co/fLULA9zAjU— Laurie Macfarlane (@L__Macfarlane) August 27, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 08:12 (one year ago)
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 08:33 (one year ago)
this is what "not ideological" looks like i guess
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 08:35 (one year ago)
so we’re just destined to live out the blair reforms again and again, just with shittier public services on every iteration???
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 09:16 (one year ago)
Its worse. The private sector won't invest, your kent racist will have his house flooded. The government will then step in and spend way over.
We will probably go to the IMF and they will cancel public services, at which point migrants will be blamed and more hotels will be burnt down.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 09:58 (one year ago)
The party should not have even considered using that much taxpayer cash, Thomas argued.
The way this is just left hanging, no explanation, no reasoning.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 10:32 (one year ago)
Absolutely key to vote for this bullshit you know 🙄
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 10:59 (one year ago)
the day ex-banking sector, longtime fiscal hawk Rachel Reeves was (after some significant resistance) persuaded that the further hollowing out of the state by private finance was a sound idea.. yes a masterclass in the art of lobbying there .. possibly not
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 11:22 (one year ago)
All they are interested in is a bit of work experience and making contacts while in government to then get a cushy job when they are kicked out of it.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 11:53 (one year ago)
hah! just saw footage of a younger and even more severe sounding Rachel Reeves pledging to means test/cut pensioners winter fuel allowance, from 2014. Then just trying to outflank Gideon on how far Tory austerity dared to go, now just going where they dared not tread.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 18:57 (one year ago)
smoking ban proposals show that Kieth wants people to stay alive and enjoy poverty exploitation island for as long as possible
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 August 2024 17:21 (one year ago)
Yeah but imagine how hated Wesley will be
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Thursday, 29 August 2024 17:39 (one year ago)
i think it's nice that people who hadn't come across him before are getting this chance to enjoy his high octane charisma
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 August 2024 18:44 (one year ago)
extra outdoor smoking restrictions seems pretty dubious as a health positive policy, if someone smokes a pack a day and are faced with new outdoor smoking restrictions. They will still smoke a pack a day, just occasionally in different locations than they usually do. And also they will think Kieth is a cunt.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 29 August 2024 18:57 (one year ago)
it's funny that Tories are calling Nanny State on this when they had banning smoking everywhere on their manifesto
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 29 August 2024 19:03 (one year ago)
First they came for the Communists⁰And I did not speak outBecause I was not a communistThen they came for the Jews⁰And I did not speak out⁰Because I was not a JewThen they came for me⁰And there was no one left⁰To speak out for mePertinent words re Starmer’s smoking ban— Esther McVey (@EstherMcVey1) August 29, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 August 2024 20:02 (one year ago)
I wouldn't have stopped smoking if I realised it gave me protected characteristic status, oh well off to the camps I go anyway!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 29 August 2024 20:20 (one year ago)
People that need medical care aren't getting it. This is nonsense for headlines.
🚨 NEW: The government is funding a new 'health MOT' in which the NHS will go into offices, pubs and building sites to weigh workers and measure their blood pressure to help prevent heart attacks and strokes[@thetimes]— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) August 29, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 August 2024 07:55 (one year ago)
trying any nonsense other than adequately funding the NHS. Could imagine the health & safety issues regarding sending people into pubs and building sites, just laughable shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 30 August 2024 08:06 (one year ago)
if something is flagged up during these impromptu on site medicals, you are still going into the backlog of people needing urgent healthcare. These people are not serious.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 30 August 2024 08:17 (one year ago)
This is it, the one good thing so far
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/aug/29/keir-starmer-gets-rid-of-10-downing-streets-thatcher-portrait
― nashwan, Friday, 30 August 2024 08:34 (one year ago)
It'll be back up within a week, accompanied by a tasteful photoshoot of him shagging it
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 30 August 2024 08:40 (one year ago)
Is Kier Starmer going to start watching me pee? wtf is all this?
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 August 2024 08:49 (one year ago)
The only, somewhat positive thing I can think of are that the government seem to be working to resolve pay disputes with workers and their unions. The pay rises are still meager but at least something is happening in that direction.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 August 2024 09:01 (one year ago)
and compensation payments for infected blood victims.
did the waspi women also get some payout? i thought i'd heard something but can't find anything specific
― koogs, Friday, 30 August 2024 10:32 (one year ago)
The council post 16 transport dept has washed their hands of lots of complex needs students in my area. Where previously they had taxi transport to college, now carers are being issued with a derisory monthly transport budget that wouldn't cover a week. Starmer wont give a fuck about this, they aren't hard working strivers and therefore they don't exist.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 30 August 2024 11:03 (one year ago)
The Times’ framing of the ‘health MOT’ thing is kind of weird. Everyone is already entitled to a full check-up every five years if you’re over the age of 40 but there is a low take-up rate for men who either don’t have the inclination to proactively book in with a GP or find it difficult to take time off work. This seems to just be just making that more widely available where people already are. Healthcare outreach is good, though the suspicion is always that this is going to be a limited gimmick thing,
― ShariVari, Friday, 30 August 2024 11:15 (one year ago)
Just going into pubs and handing every man over 40 a small piece of paper that says "your cholesterol is too high" without asking them any questions
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 30 August 2024 15:20 (one year ago)
people supping in pubs generally don't want to know about any lingering health problems they might have, total buzzkill.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 30 August 2024 15:25 (one year ago)
I've printed off a small piece of paper that says "yes I know, I've switched to fat free yoghurt and I sometimes work out now" just in case, anyway
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 30 August 2024 15:28 (one year ago)
It’s meant to be for hospitality workers rather than the drinkers, tbf.
There are definitely reasons to be cynical about it - prevention might be better than cure but you need to fund both adequately, stable incomes and workers’ rights are just as important as health info when it comes to avoiding illness, etc, but it’s not quite as goofy as the press is making out.
― ShariVari, Friday, 30 August 2024 16:16 (one year ago)
the press are gonna put the worst possible spin on anything this government does, but the broader problem for Labour (sure they won't see it as a problem) is that when they promote good initiatives that are part of what a functioning welfare state ought to do they will only draw attention to their underlying refusal to tackle the bigger structural failings
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2024 16:43 (one year ago)
Genuinely had no idea that I could request a health mot as I am (way) over 40. So thx SV. I've only ever gone to the doctor's when I've been ill which has thankfully been rare.
― oscar bravo, Friday, 30 August 2024 19:28 (one year ago)
I received an offer a few years ago for an NHS health check, it consisted of some bored minion asking me vastly generalised questions and tapping the results into a tablet. Possibly they'd have recommended I go to see an actual doctor if the answers had brought up anything potentially fatal. Couldn't have been more of a waste of time!
― the deep cut is the firstest (Matt #2), Friday, 30 August 2024 20:18 (one year ago)
Turns out the guy who Sam Tarry was deselected for, Jas Athwal, is a slum landlord. Only the best quality candidates!
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 30 August 2024 20:23 (one year ago)
the biggest slumlord in parliament of any party, the squalor of his properties mainly characterised by the presence of black mold and ants. He described himself as a renter's champion because his rents were lower than market value. Just typing this shit in the hope that someone tells me I'm making it up.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 30 August 2024 20:34 (one year ago)
Matt mine was pretty much like that although they did take blood and did a number of tests.
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 August 2024 20:47 (one year ago)
The BBC claimed that tenants who had shown their reporter mould and ants inside the flats, and given interviews about the conditions, were then contacted by the property manager.“After receiving these calls they became hesitant about talking to me. This appeared to me to be intimidation,” the BBC’s reporter Joe Pike claimed.In a statement on Friday night, Athwal said he was “shocked” by the condition of his properties and that he was “profoundly sorry”.“It was my understanding all the licences for my properties were up to date, but I have recently seen an email which shared that licences are due to expire, I am in the process of renewing all licences,” he said.“I’m proud to rent out homes with secure tenancies at below-market rents.“I want every one of my tenants to have excellent accommodation; I’m shocked at the reported condition of a number of the properties and have asked the managing agent for an explanation and immediate action to rectify any issues.”
“After receiving these calls they became hesitant about talking to me. This appeared to me to be intimidation,” the BBC’s reporter Joe Pike claimed.
In a statement on Friday night, Athwal said he was “shocked” by the condition of his properties and that he was “profoundly sorry”.
“It was my understanding all the licences for my properties were up to date, but I have recently seen an email which shared that licences are due to expire, I am in the process of renewing all licences,” he said.
“I’m proud to rent out homes with secure tenancies at below-market rents.
“I want every one of my tenants to have excellent accommodation; I’m shocked at the reported condition of a number of the properties and have asked the managing agent for an explanation and immediate action to rectify any issues.”
The 'immediate action' to be paid for by a doubling of the service charge no doubt!
― the deep cut is the firstest (Matt #2), Friday, 30 August 2024 21:43 (one year ago)
Haven't had custard in a long time.
Who remembers? pic.twitter.com/QbhMJvrJqf— Eyup Lovely (@eyuplovely) August 30, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 31 August 2024 07:07 (one year ago)
ah those days when a kid would accidentally pick up a white dogshit after mistaking it for a golf ball
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 31 August 2024 08:22 (one year ago)
Those days when dogs shat white turds.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Saturday, 31 August 2024 08:24 (one year ago)
Dunno, I quite liked "Definitely Maybe"
― Mark G, Saturday, 31 August 2024 08:44 (one year ago)
Re: Athwal, ofc Lab were never going after the press via Leveson but I do wonder about their pact. Lab are so corrupt the press could really eat them up and the case of this minor backbench slumlord MP points that way imo
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 31 August 2024 12:10 (one year ago)
i bet Peter Hendy is thanking his lucky stars that the Athwal story dropped
Let's post some receipts, for the benefit of anyone attempting to defend @LordPeterHendy, @SYSTRA_UKIRL and @NetworkRail's actions in some way. Because I have a folder of this stuff. pic.twitter.com/LqI2P2WuNc— Gareth Dennis (@GarethDennis) August 30, 2024
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2024 12:15 (one year ago)
what am i saying? the likes of Hendy don't have a guilt gene, they just believe in their natural right to destroy anybody who irks them
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2024 12:16 (one year ago)
One slumlord bullied off, 100000 to go.
I am shocked and sickened by the series of problems that have come to light. I had not been aware of these issues until this week, for which I am furious. I have immediately dismissed the managing agent of my properties. (1/3)— Jas Athwal MP (@Jas_Athwal) September 1, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 September 2024 10:28 (one year ago)
Not actually off*, but he might do something for his tenants, which is not nothing.
* his head off, which would've happened during the cultural revolution.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 September 2024 10:30 (one year ago)
land reform movement, not cultural revolution
the CR was enacted p much entirely within the party, its (much younger) lower-rank cadres encouraged to attack older lower-management layers, with the announced purpose of shaking out crusted and unevolved ideas as if they were a pre-revolutionary hangover, but with the actual purpose of ensuring that upper level layers (and mao above all) need no longer be encumbered by the sluggishness of those below them enacting whatever whims might emanate from party central. CR is really a kind of a largescale proto-thatcherite spasm, where the purity of theory is deployed to sweep away the stubborn expertise and information-rich connectivity of those with hard-won experience of the situation on the ground
the CR was beloved of the cohort western radical cohort that went on staff its neoliberal mirror -- which is probably why its long-term consequence is state capitalism with chinese characteristics, and also why china three generations on has 20% of the world's billionaires
― mark s, Sunday, 1 September 2024 11:11 (one year ago)
"whic is probably why" -- lol sorry, i rewrote this and fucked up the causality, better wd be "sadly unsurprising, given that its"
― mark s, Sunday, 1 September 2024 11:14 (one year ago)
the land reform movement was very messy, lots of middle level peasants who weren't actually landlords got brutally exterminated as well. He had to deliver on that shit because land redistribution to lower peasants was his flagship policy and the most key one in getting people behind the party during the civil war. It was fun times!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 1 September 2024 11:40 (one year ago)
Thank you for the corrections. I have only seen the tweets.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 September 2024 12:19 (one year ago)
Govt minister Lucy Powell says the UK economy would have crashed & there would have been a run on the pound if the universal winter fuel allowance for pensioners wasn't scrapped.Education secretary Bridget Phillipson is asked if that's correct. pic.twitter.com/9YZktpRaDp— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) September 2, 2024
I too believe that an economic crash/run on sterling would have been a credible scenario caused by not cutting winter fuel payments, that would have been the back-breaking straw. Then again I have replaced my brain with mushy peas.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 September 2024 07:39 (one year ago)
I think you’ll find that’s guacamole
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 2 September 2024 08:18 (one year ago)
She would've done some devilish schoolgirl smirk off camera.
They think they are so clever.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 September 2024 08:41 (one year ago)
The swift drink from the paper cup shows she was not expecting this particular question.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Monday, 2 September 2024 09:23 (one year ago)
The first disaster this administration might deal with is Euston falling apart.
NEW: PM's spokesman says he has full confidence in Peter Hendy following revelations last week https://t.co/KAdCQDgU0S— Esther Webber (@estwebber) September 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 September 2024 11:59 (one year ago)
I walked through there earlier and UGH it’s easy to feel sorry for anyone who uses that station regularly.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Monday, 2 September 2024 12:05 (one year ago)
omg i did not know the detail about hendy giving £10 oyster cards to the call girl he was “having an affair” with.. i didn’t think it could get much lower than the identical hampers that derek jeter gifted his one-night stands but well
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 September 2024 12:07 (one year ago)
conspiracy connections: dead billionaire yachtsman Mike Lynch was a Letsby is innocent truther and was attempting some kind of legal appeal on her behalf with David Davis before he died
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 September 2024 13:45 (one year ago)
🚨 NEW: Keir Starmer's entire Cabinet forgot to wish him a happy birthday at this morning's meeting [@HugoGye]— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) September 2, 2024
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 2 September 2024 16:00 (one year ago)
deliveroo drivers beware, kieth is going to be fucking fuming all day
of COURSE his birthday is now, he has absolutely incredible 'oldest kid in the school year' energy
― imago, Monday, 2 September 2024 16:16 (one year ago)
lmao dying at this
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 September 2024 16:17 (one year ago)
i'd like to picture him sat at the Cabinet table with one of those big 62 badges on but refusing to say anything and everybody else just ignoring it
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 September 2024 16:22 (one year ago)
exactly lol
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 September 2024 17:02 (one year ago)
his approval rating has dropped nearly 30% since the GE and now it seems his entire cabinet hates him as well. He must have approved of his spokesperson mentioning it, what a drip!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 September 2024 17:05 (one year ago)
“i like to think i’m able to laugh at myself, ha ha”
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 September 2024 17:07 (one year ago)
well, it would be optics with these fuckers. They don't know any other way.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 September 2024 17:09 (one year ago)
The prime minister himself has a reputation for remembering important dates of his own family and friends. In his biography of Starmer, the journalist Tom Baldwin writes: “He maintains a vast network of friends and is assiduous in remembering anniversaries or meeting up for the big birthdays – 40, 50 and now 60 – as well as funerals.”The book also reveals how Starmer enjoys dancing at his friends’ birthday parties.
The book also reveals how Starmer enjoys dancing at his friends’ birthday parties.
this detail cheered me up a bit
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 September 2024 17:45 (one year ago)
when Uncle Kieth is at the wedding reception and he makes the DJ play "She Sells Sanctuary" while he frugs away biting his bottom lip and all the kids fuck off outside for a quick vape
wait i think i know what he's got against outside smoking
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 September 2024 18:00 (one year ago)
Hang on, he's younger than me?
― Mark G, Monday, 2 September 2024 18:06 (one year ago)
New Fabian report recommending a watering down of worker rights for gig workers is sponsored by, errr, Evri!The jokes, they write themselves! pic.twitter.com/dQAoLQpGdM— James Farrar (@jamesfarrar) September 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 September 2024 12:28 (one year ago)
Just so sad.
An 80-year-old dog walker who died after ‘a group of young people’ allegedly attacked him in a park in Leicestershire has been named locally as Bhim KohliFive children – three aged 12, the others 14 – have been arrested on suspicion of his murder https://t.co/EqKw1txf9a— Metro (@MetroUK) September 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 September 2024 21:28 (one year ago)
🚨 Grenfell Inquiry report 🚨- "Complacent" govt "well aware" of risk of cladding disaster but failed to act- "Systematic dishonesty" by product manufacturers "very significant reason" for fire- "Chronic and systemic" fire safety failures by tower's social landlords— Peter Apps (@PeteApps) September 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 11:04 (one year ago)
look just because the government, industry and landlords were well aware of the immense risks of flammable cladding long before grenfell happened doesn't mean we should sow division today by visiting any consequences whatsoever on anyone involved
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 11:40 (one year ago)
Bout time Labour abolish inquiries, a pointless drain on the public purse
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 11:43 (one year ago)
Just a great time for Cleverley to recite from the back of a battered beermat a "one in, two out" on business regulation.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 12:49 (one year ago)
This will surely put a dent in Reeves' pfi housebuilding project ⚆ _ ⚆
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 12:55 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/sep/04/grenfell-is-simply-explained-firms-chased-profits-ministers-sat-on-their-hands-innocents-paid-with-their-lives
"Eric Pickles, secretary of state during the key period in the early 2010s, angrily insisted when questioned back in 2022 that building regulations relating to fire safety were exempt from this push – and that he would never have allowed a deregulatory agenda to compromise life safety.
But the report says that evidence was “flatly contradicted by that of his officials and the contemporaneous documents”, which made it abundantly clear that the government believed the construction sector should be left out of the bothersome reach of meddling bureaucrats and should be allowed to forge its own, innovative path."
Starmer is protecting ministers sounding the alarm bell on safety risks at Euston station...from one tragedy to a potential one. How many lives?
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 21:22 (one year ago)
I've spoken of harsh sentencing in the riots on another thread.
Nothing is too harsh for this dick.
https://news.sky.com/story/tragedies-like-grenfell-cannot-be-completely-avoided-says-sir-tony-blair-13210164?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 September 2024 07:32 (one year ago)
Sir Tony also revealed he was "involved quite a lot" in the Middle East
is this news? also something about people constantly talking about "getting" a ceasefire - it is quite jarring, along the lines of someone placing a food order via "I'm going to get"
― conrad, Friday, 6 September 2024 09:49 (one year ago)
"involved quite a lot" in the Middle East
lmao well that's one way to put it
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 6 September 2024 09:53 (one year ago)
he's always talking himself up as a great candidate for Middle East peace negotiator, it's quite sick and twisted really. Like a mass shooter going back to the school they shot up to give a talk on responsible gun ownership.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 6 September 2024 11:56 (one year ago)
Asked what he believed his "biggest mistake" was while in government, Sir Tony said: "I always say to people, it's for me to know and others to find out - but I'm sure there's a lot of people who would say it's over post 9/11 and Afghanistan and Iraq and so on.
Well. Hmm.
Some might say that what with Grenfell, the unravelling NHS, universal credit, insane housing situation, we are finding out, but he makes it sound like he's hidden little easter eggs for us to discover, more time bombs in the state waiting to go off
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 6 September 2024 15:18 (one year ago)
Sir Tony said: "I always say to people, it's for me to know and others to find out - but I'm sure there's a lot of people who would say it's over post 9/11 and Afghanistan and Iraq and so on."
He wouldn't though.
― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Friday, 6 September 2024 15:22 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/sep/06/keir-starmer-vows-to-stop-people-smuggling-gangs-with-tactics-used-to-jail-rioters
“I’m absolutely determined to take the same approach here: active government, an operational summit, making sure that we are going to retake control of our borders, take these gangs down,” he said.
Asked by the BBC if he might consider opening more safe routes for asylum seekers – a majority of those who cross the Channel are subsequently granted asylum – Starmer dismissed the suggestion.
I hear they don't like it up 'em! This is guaranteed to work.
― the deep cut is the firstest (Matt #2), Friday, 6 September 2024 18:50 (one year ago)
Aysenur Eygi seemed like an exceptional person. May she rest in peace. pic.twitter.com/lnMm2BqKGg— Laila Al-Arian (@LailaAlarian) September 7, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 September 2024 11:47 (one year ago)
Wrong thread
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 September 2024 11:48 (one year ago)
Well it is and it isn't
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 September 2024 12:06 (one year ago)
Sir Could Be Warmer spending all the political capital from his resounding mandate on *check notes* ending signature labour policy of winter fuel allowance
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 8 September 2024 09:37 (one year ago)
someone should have warmed warned voters that he has a long track record of being an unprincipled lying piece of shit. Then they'd have known him saying that was there was going to be no more austerity that it was bullshit. Although tbf him and Reeves telegraphed that there was going to be SHITLOADS of more austerity as well during the campaign. It is just a pity he wasn't bulshitting about this instead.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 8 September 2024 10:07 (one year ago)
yeah the whole manifesto was austerity + police state
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2024 10:41 (one year ago)
A lot of landlords in this island.
the idea of 9,000 millionaires leaving Britain sounds dramatic until you remember there are 2,849,000 millionaires in this country it’s literally a rounding error given the ebb and flow of migration pic.twitter.com/MuWCjvPgyx— Jim Pickard 🐋 (@PickardJE) September 7, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 09:43 (one year ago)
heaven forfend we lose the vital contributions of 9,000 tax-dodging wealth-hoarders
meanwhile camilla is giving me major
https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-7zV6emLzZ6kBqlQ8-GrWaiA-t500x500.jpg
vibes
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 10:22 (one year ago)
David Lynch has let himself go a bit.
Is 9000 millionaires leaving the UK anti-growth? I certainly don't give a fuck.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 11:01 (one year ago)
Parasites threaten to leave the host if source of delicious blood cut off could be a headline from any year since at least 1900
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 11:39 (one year ago)
I'll be so sad if Mick Jagger fucks off to France again ;;
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 12:03 (one year ago)
Winter poxy fule payments. It's a good job that Starmer and various gimps keep repeating on tv that they're prepared to be unpopular for making the "tough choices", cos, well
They'll be limping onwards at last years Tory polling forgoes by Christmas at this rate
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 12:50 (one year ago)
*figures
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 12:51 (one year ago)
How on earth this has become the hill they’ll die on is just beyond me. Is this really how they drew it up??
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 13:21 (one year ago)
No Labour MPs have enough principles (and balls) to vote against it so they won't be dying on any hill. Pensioners however will be dying in cold houses.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 13:35 (one year ago)
maybe they've calculated doing all the most evil cuts in the first year of their term will give them time to recover the lukewarm goodwill of voters that they have pissed off in record time for a new govt.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 13:59 (one year ago)
They are two diametrically opposed possibilities: either they are really cunning, smart genius political operators who have planned out everything to the smallest degree, from policy to public support, or, they are rank hare-brained amateurs whose main motivation is revenge on the left of the party and they are praying for the kind of favourable media coverage that enabled them to scrape a majority on 33.7% to continue.
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 14:19 (one year ago)
apparently there are almost a million pensioners entitled to pension credit who don't claim it. So theoretically if this pushed vast numbers of them to claim it then it could end up costing more, than if these dickheads had just left WFA alone in the first place.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 16:42 (one year ago)
Yeah, it's cheaper to give it to everyone above a certain age, than set up and staff another "department of making things difficult" etc
― Mark G, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 16:47 (one year ago)
These cunts don't love anything more than getting to say "well, if you'd filled in the forms right, we wouldn't be having this conversation", though.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 11 September 2024 19:13 (one year ago)
Mr. Starmer said in comments his office released on Wednesday that he was working on a 10-year plan that could amount to the “biggest reimagining of our N.H.S.” since its creation in 1948.
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 12 September 2024 07:09 (one year ago)
one of the things I heard they are proposing is redirecting funding from big "inefficient" NHS trusts into community healthcare. ffs it's like they are just brainstorming what every right-wing think tank or tory cunt has said in the last 14 years, just try anything but fund the NHS adequately.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 12 September 2024 07:54 (one year ago)
Amol Rajan asked Streeting this morning if Labour planned on any capital investment at all given that this was underfunded even before COVID and he just straight up started talking about something else
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 12 September 2024 08:01 (one year ago)
Yeah the bullet point from the report summary saying "austerity made this worse" not getting a huuuuge amount of attention either
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 12 September 2024 08:20 (one year ago)
Look, Change means Change
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2024 11:43 (one year ago)
There's no voice whatsoever for this fella among the people juggling his life.
Steven Quinn was released from Brixton prison today as part of the government's early release scheme to free up space in UK jails. In total, he says he's spent 27 years of his life in the prison system and he has little hope that he will be able to stay out again this time. pic.twitter.com/oqXQHDw9td— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) September 10, 2024
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 12 September 2024 12:00 (one year ago)
Saw Streeting on Sky News this morning asked about the fact that Lord Darzi, who produced this latest NHS report, had resigned as a Labour peer when Corbyn was leader. "Yes, well we dealt with him didn't we?" Him being Corbyn. Such an obnoxious prick.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 September 2024 12:34 (one year ago)
Days in government before governing party's polling average went under 30 percent:1993 Major - 3971968 Wilson - 6642019 May - 6751981 Thatcher - 6762022 Johnson - 7622008 Brown - 1,0822004 Blair - 1,1042024 Starmer - 70? pic.twitter.com/LW5OJenkyv— Owen Winter (@OwenWntr) September 13, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 13 September 2024 15:10 (one year ago)
This is the best possible use of data analysis
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 September 2024 15:11 (one year ago)
Kieth loves Thatcher so much he's brought back the fear of impending nuclear war as a tribute
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 September 2024 11:33 (one year ago)
the difference being when Blinken tells him to pipe down he'll say sorry sir, won't do it again and scurry back into his hole.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 14 September 2024 12:10 (one year ago)
Remarkable, this mindset of constantly looking at elections, polls, popularity when we've just had an election and are many years away from another general..
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/14/its-nil-nil-labour-warned-the-political-race-with-the-conservatives-isnt-over
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 September 2024 19:50 (one year ago)
6 month self-suspension coming up!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/14/keir-starmer-alleged-to-have-broken-parliamentary-rules-over-gifts-to-wife
A Conservative party spokesperson said: “It’s taken just 10 weeks for Keir Starmer to face an investigation for his conduct.“After facing allegations of cronyism and now apparent serious breaches of parliamentary rules there must be a full investigation into the passes for glasses scandal.“No doubt the millions of vulnerable pensioners across the country who face choosing between heating and eating would jump at the chance for free clothes just to keep warm in the face of Labour’s cruel cut.”
“After facing allegations of cronyism and now apparent serious breaches of parliamentary rules there must be a full investigation into the passes for glasses scandal.
“No doubt the millions of vulnerable pensioners across the country who face choosing between heating and eating would jump at the chance for free clothes just to keep warm in the face of Labour’s cruel cut.”
Tories otm
― jam up the pump (Matt #2), Saturday, 14 September 2024 21:12 (one year ago)
should have gone to specsavers
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 14 September 2024 22:03 (one year ago)
almost feel like kier actually would suspend himself just to show the haters.
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 14 September 2024 22:57 (one year ago)
it's weird as a government employee i would reflexively decline if a member of the public offered me so much as a breath mint, but apparently if i was in government i could just live off the kindness of strangers and not worry about it
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 September 2024 07:46 (one year ago)
I could understand if it was a greedy, corrupt cabinet minister like Lammy, who had to be dragged away with a sad face from his lucrative GB news gig a couple of months before the GE and is addicted to large donations. But I always understood that more so than a Tory one, a Labour PM has to be cleaner than clean as they can be, everything on the books. Did this dumb fuck think this would go under the radar?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 15 September 2024 09:01 (one year ago)
He doesn't seem to be aware of the fact that nobody likes him, even the people that voted for him.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 September 2024 09:15 (one year ago)
everyone is quick to hate on keir starmer but you should follow him on vinted, he just posted a load of good stuff— Dan Douglas (@dandouglas) September 15, 2024
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 September 2024 14:59 (one year ago)
https://theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/14/corbyn-had-flown-too-close-to-the-sun-how-labour-insiders-battled-the-left-and-plotted-the-partys-path-back-to-power🙃🙃🙃🙃
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Sunday, 15 September 2024 15:14 (one year ago)
This McSweeney character is something else.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 September 2024 15:18 (one year ago)
Quite something to be wined and dined by a wing of the party and not think that a story worth reporting
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Sunday, 15 September 2024 15:25 (one year ago)
if McSweeney wasn't there would things have panned out any differently? There were already enough people within Labour working to undermine Corbynism. Their wasn't any need for some genius strategist to work out a path to power against a historically fucked Tory party. He's just a minor player who was in the right place at the right time imo and quite possibly as dumb as any of the fuckwits around the Starmer office.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 15 September 2024 15:44 (one year ago)
he's a piece of shit for sure, but like Starmer - not a very interesting piece of shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 15 September 2024 15:48 (one year ago)
you never get a sense of anything going on in his brain other than he's a competent POLITICAL opportunist and thinks Blair is unassailably great because of the GFA
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 15 September 2024 15:51 (one year ago)
ACCIDENTAL CAPS!
McSweeney later told a friend that he saw this as Corbyn’s “Icarus moment”, in which he imagined the Labour leader standing backstage at Glastonbury with a choice: take that election result and turn to the country to cement the deal; or walk into the warm embrace of festivalgoers, who (McSweeney believed) were unrepresentative of the wider electorate. To him, Corbyn had just flown too close to the sun.
he is being paraphrased by a "friend" here, but I guess whatever he said was a profound statement from a deep thinker that really nailed that moment when Corbyn took the wrong path. Never mind that he was turning up at other events and milking the crowd just like at Glasto multiple times in the same period. I don't why I'm still posting about him, but I'm convinced he's actually a bit thick and not very good at what he does.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 15 September 2024 17:06 (one year ago)
Seems like the kind of galaxy brain who'll always convince himself his actions were key to any sequence of events that occurred, not that I read much of the article as I had enough of crotch-thrusting New Labour types back in the 90s.
― jam up the pump (Matt #2), Sunday, 15 September 2024 17:25 (one year ago)
If your application for winter fuel payments fail here is an alternative form to fill.
🚨 Assisted dying is expected to be fast-tracked through Parliamenthttps://t.co/JSgEOH5EGt— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) September 15, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 September 2024 08:52 (one year ago)
Today, Keir Starmer has been in Italy to discuss migration with Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni and see what the UK can learn about reducing small boat crossings. He's praised the country's "remarkable progress" on tackling irregular migration.
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 September 2024 17:23 (one year ago)
Disgusting.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 16 September 2024 17:29 (one year ago)
endorsing fascists and legitimising their agenda, nothing to see here
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 16 September 2024 17:48 (one year ago)
Analysis: Starmer puts ‘pragmatism’ before perceptions in meeting with Meloni
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 September 2024 18:19 (one year ago)
Finally the fascist appeaser PM the UK's been waiting for since 1938
― jam up the pump (Matt #2), Monday, 16 September 2024 18:20 (one year ago)
Starmer sulking because he’s getting criticism for accepting free clothes and arsenal tickets is such hilarious shit, like he genuinely thinks he’s being unfairly criticised when he’s telling old people there’s not enough money to heat their homes
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 10:32 (one year ago)
he says he can't purchase corporate hospitality tickets because of security issues, gimme a fucking break you freeloading bullshit merchant! it amazes me he doesn't see what a bad look this is when he has made the political decision to write off 4000 winter deaths as an acceptable trade off for more austerity. CUNT!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 10:40 (one year ago)
Maybe him and Jezwell Corby can split the cost of an executive box?
― jam up the pump (Matt #2), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 10:56 (one year ago)
Starmer's position is that he is so honourable and principled that he couldn't possibly be bribed or influenced by freebie tickets to matches, suits or holidays. So the more freebie tickets, holidays and suits he accepts the more he can show how honourable and un-bribeable he is— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) September 17, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 10:58 (one year ago)
I heard some stupid Sky correspondent saying this morning that because of Starmer's deprived childhood as the son of a toolmaker he maybe feels he is entitled to revel in the comforts of life that go with his current status.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 11:10 (one year ago)
Lmaohttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXq-BTYWkAAQ5bD?format=png&name=medium
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 11:28 (one year ago)
She's not having a good morning, earlier today she got savaged over Starmer chumming around with Italian fascists by Kay Burley of all people.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 11:42 (one year ago)
“robert peston where are you?"
https://i.imgur.com/NrCGSYM.png
― mark s, Tuesday, 17 September 2024 11:44 (one year ago)
I don’t think the idea that the PM needs to look presentable on the word stage and it’s better for clothes to be provided by supporters of the party than be an expense of the state is a particularly hard argument to make, tbh, but both the hospitality element and the apparent need to appear pugnacious under any mild questioning are hilarious. Do you expect me to MISS THE ERAS TOUR just because I’m Prime Minister?!?!! etc
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 17 September 2024 12:20 (one year ago)
obv on a pm salary alls you can afford is the mothball ridden dead people's clothes from Oxfam that no other fucker wants to buy, come on ffs!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 12:52 (one year ago)
I think he should appear on the world stage naked but for a barrell, to highlight the dire situation the tories have left the country in, it would be a hilarious Lead By Donkeys level stunt.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 17 September 2024 13:04 (one year ago)
lol, for maximum effect: trying to sell apples to other G7 leaders so he can make up his bus fare home
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 13:08 (one year ago)
trying to sell apples UK infrastructure to other G7 leaders so he can make up his bus fare home
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 17 September 2024 13:28 (one year ago)
They’re so dumb on the clothes front, and that goes for every possible left politician. I met Jeremy Corbyn shortly before he won the leadership and mentioned that the UK fashion industry has 800,000 jobs and brought in £21 billion a year (in 2015, it’s now £26 billion) so he could maybe start wearing some of it and explaining that? There are worse ways to tell someone that they’re approaching the makeover montage section of the movie. To be fair to him, I think he figured it out eventually (along with realising those 800K working in fashion are mostly voters under 40).
Starmer has clearly offended the fates or whatever because none of the briefcases have noticed we are in the middle of the 40th London Fashion Week. PMs have to pay for their suits because they are generally bespoke, but it’s easy to promote Savile Row as an essential part of British fashion. I’d advise them, rather than have Waheed Alli get a bunch of tat from Me and Em for Vic Starmer to wear, she should be calling in dresses to borrow for official functions. FFS Erdem, McQueen, Burberry, Margaret Howell et al are one phone call away, would be happy to dress her, and it would be good for business generally.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 14:03 (one year ago)
I'm blithely ignorant about this stuff and I wondered why she didn't go down the borrowing route yesh
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 14:16 (one year ago)
aiui, she has an arrangement with Edeline Lee for borrowing event dresses.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 17 September 2024 14:24 (one year ago)
Weird choice. It might be advisable to cast the net wider.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 14:27 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/18/keir-starmer-100000-in-tickets-and-gifts-more-than-any-other-recent-party-leader
If Starmer was a proper cunt he'd announce Levenson 2 over this.
But he's a coward, more than anything.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 September 2024 12:21 (one year ago)
Sue Gray being paid more than Starmer is exceptionally funny you have to say
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Wednesday, 18 September 2024 12:28 (one year ago)
Maybe Mrs Starmer could borrow one of her dresses.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 September 2024 12:31 (one year ago)
Evening Standard dead. RMT alive. https://t.co/hf0cDtI9PT— Ewan Gibbs (@ewangibbs) September 19, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 September 2024 13:54 (one year ago)
There is ofc another option for KS. Not go to matches at all at the Emirates until he is no longer PM! It's ridiculous that he sees it a binary choice between accepting hospitality and someone attacking him in the stands.
― Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 19 September 2024 17:49 (one year ago)
During Azerbarjan’s ethnic cleansing of Nagorno-Karabakh, it issued maps renaming streets after the main instigators of the 1915 Armenian genocide. David Lammy calls this liberation. https://t.co/f7s8Bcjbxx— Karl Hansen (@karl_fh) September 19, 2024
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Thursday, 19 September 2024 19:21 (one year ago)
this was another situation where a civilian population were being starved by a blockade before being ethnically cleansed. I guess when you start your govt career having smiley photo ops with war criminal Bibi in the first week then a revisionist take on ethnic cleansing is what you need.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 19 September 2024 19:57 (one year ago)
if you look at Lammy's register of interests, he's one of greediest most corrupt fuckers in parliament. Nearly 10 grand worth of corporate hospitality at Spurs for the North London derby. One of his biggest donors, Tony Lubner - lovely guy if you if you were pro Apartheid in the 80's. No wonder this cunt has no principles.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 19 September 2024 20:15 (one year ago)
"It's ridiculous that he sees it a binary choice between accepting hospitality and someone attacking him in the stands."
My theory on Kieth is that he only became a "lifelong Gooner" in the last 10-15 years through corporate freebie tickets and is too embarrassed to admit that he doesn't even know how to purchase match day tickets because he has never done it before.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 19 September 2024 20:37 (one year ago)
Honestly I don't care about realness here, tho it's a solid point. The absolu
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 September 2024 20:47 (one year ago)
Whoops slippy thumb.
The absolute disregard that Lammy and Kieth have for human life, never mind any potential legal quibbles - these are very broken, immoral people and ffs some of you ticked their box
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 September 2024 20:51 (one year ago)
damn, all that austerity we did didn't work. guess we'll just have to keep doing it https://t.co/kN8kwse7sn— David East (@davideastUK) September 20, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 September 2024 10:45 (one year ago)
wow, it's funny but also makes you think...quite rare for a tattoo these days.— Y (@tinscognito__) September 21, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 September 2024 13:02 (one year ago)
Click to see what that is in response to, for a little surprise.
🤢
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 21 September 2024 13:29 (one year ago)
Reform’s Labour's conference is all blame, grumpiness – and no idea how to fix things
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Fixed The Guardian's headline
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 September 2024 13:32 (one year ago)
thangham must be still pissed. I can't imagine a sober person getting such a dreadful tattoo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 September 2024 13:55 (one year ago)
tbh i'm just grateful she's not on breakfast TV every fucking single day
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 September 2024 13:57 (one year ago)
Not taking losing their seats very well, these ghouls.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 September 2024 13:57 (one year ago)
They were told they could not have it all their own way, for a change, so now we have to see them sulk.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 September 2024 13:59 (one year ago)
hegemonic monogovernment without the hegemony just is no fun is it
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 21 September 2024 14:43 (one year ago)
Utterly disgraceful. MPs should look like professionals, not goths. This is electoral poison. Show me one person who would vote for this. Get it removed now— Eyup Lovely (@eyuplovely) April 29, 2024
― symsymsym, Saturday, 21 September 2024 19:54 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/21/honeymoon-over-keir-starmer-now-less-popular-than-rishi-sunak
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 22 September 2024 07:32 (one year ago)
quite predictable, some of the most vacuous and evil, personality-sterile people in PLP front bench history, put in the spotlight for a few months and lo behold .. the penny drops that its more of the same and everyone fucking hates them!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 September 2024 07:49 (one year ago)
It's boring and pointless to go on about the failures of 2017 and 2019 but this government is measurably less popular than those losing Labour campaigns and the country is now deep into a swelling, media-backed fascist movement built at least in part on the structural brokenness that Starmer is proudly refusing to address.
This is the least surprising loss of "popularity" ever
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:07 (one year ago)
i don't know if this is a historically significant level of political division in the UK or if it's just the weird tinny feedback of the current media ecosystem plus the success of Trumpesque neo-fash rhetoric in being taken up by the always-been-among-us bigot community plus the martyrs of FBPE who've never been vocal about anything before because they never gave a fuck. feels like there's a huge number of genuinely marginalised people now sat helplessly watching two cadres of the petit-bourgeoisie slugging it out in public, maybe chucking some votes to the Greens until they find a way to render themselves completely unreliable again
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:17 (one year ago)
Whoever you vote for, the lack of governance is the one you can be sure of.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:21 (one year ago)
just think what happens if we have a really severe winter weather-wise
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:21 (one year ago)
Bridget Phillipson is asked why Lord Alli gave her £14,000. She explains part of it was used to fund a birthday party for her 40th where she invited colleagues and journalists. #trevorphillips pic.twitter.com/UhTWimhkfE— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) September 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:22 (one year ago)
feels like we’re just in the foothills here. all the stuff around the election suggested kieth’s party was crawling with lobbyists
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:24 (one year ago)
you can't expect someone like Starmer, with the intellectual make-up of a talking centrist barbie doll to be brave or bold enough to address complex issues, unfortunately for us all it's all way beyond him
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:24 (one year ago)
extremely funny watching them squirm though
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:25 (one year ago)
one of the only political pleasures left to us
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 September 2024 08:27 (one year ago)
every Labour MP being interviewed this week pic.twitter.com/wHqm0mGfbg— donked by ladies (@AckAckGunz) September 22, 2024
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 September 2024 09:07 (one year ago)
if starmer tries hard enough maybe he can manage to get knifed before he's been pm for a year
― ufo, Sunday, 22 September 2024 10:19 (one year ago)
The ‘why now?’ element is the interesting part. Labour hasn’t really done anything to upset the market, other than potentially be even too conservative in outlook, the Tories aren’t in a position to benefit much, Leveson 2 isn’t on the table. If there is a concerted push to take Starmer down, it’s not immediately clear who it helps - other, potentially, than Wes Streeting,
― ShariVari, Sunday, 22 September 2024 10:25 (one year ago)
i don't think this is a concerted push? more like a bit of gentle reminding where the power lies, plus some stuff that is out there and difficult for the media to absolutely ignore - altho notably they're focusing on the clothes and not the offshore fund private healthcare shit - plus Labor Right scumbags doing what they naturally do to each other.
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 September 2024 10:34 (one year ago)
you've gotta believe that e.g. Streeting is probably not patient enough to let Kieth naturally fall out of favour in his own time
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 September 2024 10:35 (one year ago)
Other than the Victoria Starmer bit, all this has been in the public domain for ages, going back before the election. Pressing them on it now, pretty much to the exclusion of everything else, feels quite pointed and, yes, the most obvious answer might be internal Labour politics.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 22 September 2024 10:43 (one year ago)
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that nobody likes this cunt Starmer and the people he's surrounded him with are equally detestable. How Angela Rayner can stand it I have no idea.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 September 2024 10:45 (one year ago)
wasn't the idea about her that she was, if not always one of the lobbyists types, strangely amenable to becoming one
― imago, Sunday, 22 September 2024 10:54 (one year ago)
Hilarious.
Ellie Reeves MP says “ Labour's GE victory was only possible because under Keir’s leadership we changed the party”Changed it into an organisation whose leaders are in the pocket of millionaires? pic.twitter.com/nJonUMtFI9— Diane Abbott (@HackneyAbbott) September 21, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 September 2024 13:45 (one year ago)
was just catching some news on bbc TV, and quite abruptly, they interrupted something interesting to play a live feed of Lammy's bombastic, bullshit conference speech. Haven't they got the memo yet? Minus 18 pts approval rating, everyone hates the cunt, and not just the racists this time.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 September 2024 13:59 (one year ago)
Have been seeing a couple of tweets about Euston chaos today...
The fact that they promised to improve Euston only to reveal that all this actually consisted of was replacing the platform signage with a colossal advertising screen – somehow making the worst station in London even worse – feels quite indicative of the current state of the UK— Hannah Williams (@hkatewilliams) September 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 September 2024 19:50 (one year ago)
I'd that the same signage they used in Nightsleeper for the messages from The Driver?
― koogs, Sunday, 22 September 2024 20:19 (one year ago)
lol I figured Diane used a low res pic of Kieth even though it was hard to tell on my phone screen earlier
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 September 2024 20:45 (one year ago)
disrespectful
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 September 2024 22:20 (one year ago)
(deliciously so)
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 September 2024 22:21 (one year ago)
uite abruptly, they interrupted something interesting to play a live feed of Lammy's bombas
Did any of Corbyn's speeches ever get any kind of coverage on TV like this, ever?
― Mark G, Sunday, 22 September 2024 23:39 (one year ago)
What a dumbo.
This “scandal” has got so stupid. We’re meant to be cross about guest list places? https://t.co/ADlGq28TgQ— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) September 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 September 2024 08:11 (one year ago)
Expecting the ire to turn towards the folk innocently bombarding these hapless MPs with freebies any day now oh wait.
― nashwan, Monday, 23 September 2024 08:32 (one year ago)
Unite keep doing nothing.
🚨 @UKLabour leadership blocks @unitetheunion winter fuel conference motion!Right now it is fair to say that the Labour leaders have tried to silence the voice of pensioners, workers and communities at party conference in this blatant manoeuvre to block debate on winter fuel…— Sharon Graham (@UniteSharon) September 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 September 2024 12:43 (one year ago)
Reeves bellowing "changed Labour party... service of working people... no longer a party of protest" is an absolute nightmare come to life, as well as making no sense whatsoever. The guy is now protesting the government.. Also handily implies that working people don't and shouldn't worry their little heads about Britain's role in foreign wars/genocide
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 23 September 2024 13:11 (one year ago)
I guess we should all just sit down and shut up
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 September 2024 13:19 (one year ago)
if this appalling party want to get elected again they need to start restoring LA budgets towards 2010 levels. Then a lot of broken things might slowly start working again. Saying "no more austerity" is precisely what the Tories kept repeating for the last 5 years, and it doesn't go down well with people who see with their own eyes more and vital services/social care etc being run to the ground because the funding is gone.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 23 September 2024 14:44 (one year ago)
What the expenses scandals show is they are, like all the pol class, on another reality.
The people responsible for this will go back to their NGOs/lawyering jobs/ PR/consultancy, etc. Once they lose in five years, if the country isn't on fire. All these MPs have a backup plan.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 September 2024 15:00 (one year ago)
https://www.globalwitness.org/en/campaigns/fossil-gas/oil-and-gas-linked-groups-sponsor-fifth-climate-events-upcoming-labour-conference/
no really tho it's just a few tickets and clothes how dare you compare Labour to the corrupt Tories?
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 September 2024 18:17 (one year ago)
Gary Neville says we need to wrap our pm up in billionaire donated luxury gratuities "to keep him safe" as Lisa Nandy yearnfully gazes at him. Hard to believe that a multimillionaire landlord twat can't see how tawdry this has looked to *ordinary* folk. Keep doubling down on it lads, his approval rating will be minus 100 by Christmas.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 23 September 2024 18:54 (one year ago)
Doesn't seem to be too many questions about what the payback for these "gifts" is, i.e. deregulation on demand and a key to the secret back door of No. 10, no questions asked!
― it's beginning-to-end stuff (Matt #2), Monday, 23 September 2024 18:57 (one year ago)
lots of melts who were scathing about Tory corruption have become very Pollyannaish about a Labour party literally owned by billionaires, nothing to see here.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 23 September 2024 19:01 (one year ago)
They are so fucking cheap.
Jonathan Reynolds and two senior staff went to Glastonbury as guests of YouTube. Until then, Labour was promising to increase the digital service tax from 2% to 10%. Literally the day after the festival, it emerged that Reynolds had ditched the policy. https://t.co/LaYgCyoYb5— Novara Media (@novaramedia) September 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 September 2024 20:29 (one year ago)
I'd be expecting a free spot in the glamping field and a personal introduction to Ed Sheeran for that kind of deal
― it's beginning-to-end stuff (Matt #2), Monday, 23 September 2024 20:32 (one year ago)
A century ago, as Ralph Miliband showed, this was done by taking the first Labour MPs around exclusive London clubs, introducing them to high society, and slowly squeezing them into a position where they saw things more from the perspective of the powerful than the powerless. For Britain’s modern hyper-rich oligarch class, it looks a little different. But the effect is the same: the point about all of the different gifts given to Labour politicians – notably tickets to exclusive events, and smart clothes – is that they’re things which make people feel special, part of a class apart. They’re meant, as the education secretary put it, to be “hard to turn down” not because of their cash value, but the emotions they imbue in the recipient
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 September 2024 20:56 (one year ago)
Re Reynolds and digital service tax, what's fun to imagine is if policies like that are literally created with the aim in mind of getting a sweet bribe, like it's all pre-factored in, because they know so well how it all works now. Similar could be said about the Green new deal and the £4m Quadrature donation, though there the timing isn't so clear. But you'd think a donation of that size would gave been long in the discussion and back and forths about what needed to be dropped.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 23 September 2024 21:31 (one year ago)
Isn’t it outrageous when climate change protestors hold up traffic? Like, what if I needed to get to the hospital? https://t.co/5Enk7tfxnH— David Veevers (@DavidVeevers1) September 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 08:59 (one year ago)
Jail for woke floodwater
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 09:26 (one year ago)
Re: corruption/accepting gifts. Amazing story
Britain has such strict anti-corruption rules that street cleaners are banned from accepting charitable donations, but politicians can accept hundreds of thousands of pounds in gig tickets, holidays, designer clothes, and lavish parties. What a country! https://t.co/3RtJhZBHWG— Karl Hansen (@karl_fh) September 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 10:02 (one year ago)
bang otm― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 September 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Ok, maybe but I would still like a truck of money to be driven to...a bigger house!
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 10:04 (one year ago)
Starmer demands the return of the sausages from Gaza pic.twitter.com/fRAFr8Pb4R— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) September 24, 2024
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 13:44 (one year ago)
hahahahahahahaha oh noooo
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 13:53 (one year ago)
this would be the same ceasefire he refused to back earlier, on account that it would embolden hamas and create more violence somehow
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 13:54 (one year ago)
It's unsurprising when he's supporting a butcher!— Kieron 🇵🇸🏳️⚧️🔻🍉 (@CarriesDog) September 24, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 13:56 (one year ago)
does this misspeak mean he is preparing to announce ... nationalised sausages
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 13:58 (one year ago)
breakfast means breakfast
― nxd, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 14:02 (one year ago)
kind of fucked up that Labour are banning ninja swords and calling it Ronin's Law
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 14:04 (one year ago)
"Hostages"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5qLcjcJ3UQ
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 14:06 (one year ago)
Captain Netanyahu foiled again!
https://www.collectorsprints.com/_images/cartoons/tintin-03/800/9160.jpg
― it's beginning-to-end stuff (Matt #2), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 14:06 (one year ago)
(xp) ... I think Johnny Marr has found the perfect replacement for Morrissey.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 14:07 (one year ago)
Keir Starmer’s speech, rather predictably, gets interrupted by heckler.PM: “Every child, every person, deserves to be respected for the contribution they make..”Heckler: “Does that include the children of Gaza?”PM: “This guy has obviously got a pass from the 2019…— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) September 24, 2024
Really is not sufficient to call Starmer scum. He's a sentient piece of toxic waste
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 14:13 (one year ago)
Hahaha those losers back in 2019 cared about dead children. We do not, which proves we are very smart and very adult.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 15:17 (one year ago)
Pulled a pre-written heckler put-down out of his pocket for that one haha well done sir, they’ll be chortling about that one in the lobby
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 15:20 (one year ago)
A question I’ve been asked repeatedly since voting against the means-test for winter fuel payments is why I couldn’t wait longer before doing so.Read this desperate email received from a constituent and ask yourself could you accept pensioners struggling this winter? I can’t. pic.twitter.com/9RtdYqSM8q— Apsana Begum MP (@ApsanaBegumMP) September 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 15:21 (one year ago)
that's his most quick-witted and funniest repartee, ho ho ho I purged thousands of decent people from the party membership - it was the gag of the season.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 15:23 (one year ago)
Watch the video to see his happy little chuckle
Someone heckles Keir Starmer about the mass slaughter of children in Gaza.Starmer laughs and suggests he got his pass from the 2019 Labour conference. Genuinely vile behaviour. pic.twitter.com/3S5g92hvYX— Owen Jones (@owenjonesjourno) September 24, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 15:25 (one year ago)
It’s really something how totally out of touch they are that at this moment they think this type of attitude plays
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 15:29 (one year ago)
It does to the audience at a Labour Party conference in 2024.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 15:38 (one year ago)
Yeah I guess you’re right
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 16:03 (one year ago)
Errata: For "Sausages", read "Hostages" (1066 and all that)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 16:20 (one year ago)
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 16:29 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
it's particularly aggravating they're still doing this now they're actually the government, it's one thing to go "power not protest" when you're the opposition and arguing you need to be elected to change anything, it's another when you are in power, refuse to change anything and are still telling detractors to shut up
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 16:50 (one year ago)
It’s the complacent way he says “we’ve changed the party” like some kind of liturgical reflex that I think I actually find most enraging; this is the same motherfucker that pretended to respect Corbyn’s accomplishments when he ran for leader and made a raft of pledges to membership that he has now systematically - and unapologetically - broken. Yes you really have changed the party - and you lied and sold your soul to do it. And you’re bragging about this? What is power without principle? I guess he really was running to Britain’s Top Boy and now that he’s got there he’s going to make damned sure the head teacher won’t be disappointed in him
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 16:56 (one year ago)
It's understandable but futile to think these people have any sense of ethics or any shame. They're immune to that. They're just right, and fuiud
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 17:02 (one year ago)
These aren't the traits of decent human beings, never mind people who deserve to be voted for
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 17:03 (one year ago)
By “head teacher” I don’t mean membership, obv, who really ought to be his boss, but who have deserted him in droves, I mean the imperatives of financiers and the donor class
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 17:17 (one year ago)
Caring about dead children enough to attend an event run by people you loathe just in order to get a word in about them is the old politicsWe’ve changed the party
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 17:18 (one year ago)
https://i.ibb.co/G9kGpLC/fsefre.jpg
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 17:58 (one year ago)
The colour red should sue that prick for flagrant misuse
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 18:04 (one year ago)
https://i.ibb.co/XbQkqt0/hkgiuykguy.jpg
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 18:56 (one year ago)
Lol the guy who yelled at Starmer joined Lab in '22
Break: we caught up with the protestor from the PM's speech pic.twitter.com/wDRgw1G8Ll— Genevieve Holl-Allen (@genevieve_holl) September 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 19:51 (one year ago)
despite what i said earlier, this week is illness-inducing, the manufacturing of consent, the triumphal nothingness, it is horrible full boot stamping on humanity stuff
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 21:44 (one year ago)
🚨 NEW: Keir Starmer says he took £20,000 in donations for accommodation for his 16-year-old son to study "peacefully" for his GCSE exams [@BBCRadio4]— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) September 25, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 12:29 (one year ago)
That's more than a lot of people earn in an entire year.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 12:36 (one year ago)
'kin hell man, what a little spoilt twat, and his son is obviously appalling as well.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 12:48 (one year ago)
take this motherfucker down
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 12:52 (one year ago)
i’m daring myself to imagine he has to go, there’s a leadership election and we actually get somebody human
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 12:53 (one year ago)
Streetingjumpscare.jpeg
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 13:23 (one year ago)
Why did Starmer ditch a progressive agenda to try and please Murdoch? I get it with Streeting, a moral windsock who inflates wherever power farts, but how did Starmer come to think the right wing press might be on his side? https://t.co/9WvXn5zPAy— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) September 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 13:53 (one year ago)
xp if Starmer goes you could be looking at Streeting.
But I don't feel Starmer is anywhere near under pressure.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 13:55 (one year ago)
Luckily being 500 votes away from annihilation probably keeping Streeting in check, because he is g a w n next GE.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 13:57 (one year ago)
He's got a majority of a gazillion.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 13:58 (one year ago)
They will probably parachute Streeting to a safer seat.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 13:59 (one year ago)
Probably more Labour MPs who feel their star is hitched to Kieth than Wes at the moment, I can't see serious internal pressure on him just yet
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 14:15 (one year ago)
Ok...
Waheed Alli was my sister’s best friend for 25yrs. Tragically she was diagnosed with a Glioblastoma Brain Tumour in Nov 2021 & died on June 24th 2023. He took every step of her last terrible journey with her. Lending me money to buy a house with ground floor bed & bath room 1/2 https://t.co/MMsmavZ0D3— Siobhain McDonagh (@Siobhain_Mc) September 25, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 20:59 (one year ago)
Truly fucked. Press outside? Here is a house. Want to die in comfort? Here is another one..
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 21:09 (one year ago)
🚨SCOOP: The Labour peer at the centre of the donations row, Lord Alli, failed to declare interests in a tax haven firm. @openDemocracyhttps://t.co/RXFACovFpj— Martin Williams (@martinrw) September 25, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 21:14 (one year ago)
Lol!
Google provided £10,000 of hospitality to senior Labour figures & the party ditched plans to raise the Digital Services Tax.Quadrature, a Cayman Islands hedge-fund which invests in fossil fuels, donated £4m & its climate advisory board co-chair is now Climate Envoy.It stinks.— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) September 25, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 21:24 (one year ago)
it's the grift that keeps on grifting
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 21:26 (one year ago)
All the initial responses are neolib bots defending this, but the thing is: many children live in cramped accommodation, and many areas where kids don't have a library to go to as so many have closed.
You can study peacefully in public libraries for free https://t.co/3NpWgS9nJ5— Heather Mendick (@helensclegel) September 25, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 September 2024 10:32 (one year ago)
Starmer probably scarred by having to study while his dad made tools in the background.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 September 2024 10:47 (one year ago)
Tf you're heading towards a disaster.
"We can make London the AI capital of the world. The opportunities to create wealth are endless," Sir Keir Starmer says in an exclusive feature #frontpageThe PM tells @nicholascecil about his AI vision for the capital: https://t.co/EeGGS1iWPx pic.twitter.com/XXn7ZgZGGP— The Standard (@EveningStandard) September 26, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 September 2024 12:14 (one year ago)
how is he getting this *all* so wrong
― imago, Thursday, 26 September 2024 12:18 (one year ago)
how long until starmer says something inane about taking policy advice from chatgpt
― ufo, Thursday, 26 September 2024 12:19 (one year ago)
that AI created cover pic of Kieth may look a bit like the guy who wooed Lady Starmer, but he's got a lot bloody uglier since
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 26 September 2024 12:27 (one year ago)
― imago, Thursday, 26 September 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Lol @ thinking he was going to get *any* of it right
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 September 2024 12:31 (one year ago)
"image of keir starmer created by AI" plus AI superpower plus the actual image is real robot-stamping-on-a-human-face-forever vibes tbf
― mark s, Thursday, 26 September 2024 12:37 (one year ago)
he really is just a spectacularly dim person
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 26 September 2024 13:20 (one year ago)
The opportunities to create wealth are endless
imagine being an adult back in charge and saying this out loud
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 September 2024 16:15 (one year ago)
tagline for the launch of kier cion
― conrad, Thursday, 26 September 2024 18:08 (one year ago)
Streeting and Kendall quoted approvingly in this piece saying things.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/sep/27/britain-sick-answer-benefits-crackdown
"Britain has 2.8 million adults economically inactive because of long-term illness, up by a startling 900,000 since 2020. No, this isn’t some unavoidable global hangover from the pandemic – economic inactivity has fallen elsewhere in Europe – but it’s also extremely unlikely to be because a life on welfare is just too cushy here. The introduction of universal credit, if anything, left many disabled people worse off than before."
Anyway the stat is astonishing, if correct. Two million people have fallen off. Has anyone written anything as to why this has happened in such a short space of time? That piece is incredibly poor at addressing it.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 September 2024 12:45 (one year ago)
I am thinking that post-covid the NHS and associated services aren't that accessible anymore for many people.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 September 2024 12:46 (one year ago)
They really don't give a fuck do they?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/27/rachel-reeves-reconsiders-end-to-non-dom-tax-status-over-obr-forecast-fears
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Friday, 27 September 2024 12:47 (one year ago)
Sorry this be clear: another million since 2020, why? Again, my feeling is of the NHS breaking down xp Lol absolutely not.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 September 2024 12:48 (one year ago)
So much Long Covid! I know at least five people who had to stop work to deal with it.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 27 September 2024 12:58 (one year ago)
But -- from that piece, which might be cobblers -- it doesn't sound like a lot of Europe has suffered from "economic inactivity"?
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 September 2024 13:12 (one year ago)
"economically inactive" is a pure evil phrase
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 September 2024 14:35 (one year ago)
still have to pay 20% tax on everything with the pittance you get for being long term sick, stick that in your "economically inactive"
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 27 September 2024 14:57 (one year ago)
Yes, agree its a terrible and evil phrase. People here are ill and suffering. It struck me that we might be a lot worse than much of Europe.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 September 2024 15:02 (one year ago)
Meanwhile..
🚨 BREAKING: 2 VAN GOGH PAINTINGS SOUPED HOURS AFTER PHOEBE AND ANNA SENTENCED🥫 3 Just Stop Oil supporters have thrown soup over 2 of Van Gogh paintings in the 'Poets and Lovers' exhibition at the National Gallery.➡️ Support people in resistance: https://t.co/Rh65arOwa1 pic.twitter.com/Tc3Bvd10OB— Just Stop Oil (@JustStop_Oil) September 27, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 September 2024 15:04 (one year ago)
Soupflowers
― I am the agent of Judas Priest (Matt #2), Friday, 27 September 2024 15:23 (one year ago)
just stop oil paintings
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 27 September 2024 16:31 (one year ago)
don't know where to put this so i'll put it here because it's good
https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/been-working-class-middle-real-difference-3298188
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 September 2024 09:12 (one year ago)
Thanks for that - it's good and also I'd been meaning to look into the "Kemi Badenoch at McDonalds" but I hadn't been relishing the prospect.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 28 September 2024 09:26 (one year ago)
if you live from one pay cheque or benefit cheque, to the next, devoid of any certainty about the next week, let alone month, plagued by financial anxiety and unable to turn to anyone else in your life for support, you are working class, irrespective of whether you make your sandwiches with white sliced or sourdough..
this can't be be written enough for the benefit of various salt of the earth, "working class hero" Labour MPs who dismissed Corbyn supporters as some poncey, irrelevant, terminally m/c block of voters, who unlike them, were not for real and whose concerns were somehow not as legitimate as faux w/c, bigoted small business owners.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 28 September 2024 09:50 (one year ago)
yeah i don't think the writer is saying anything spectacular and you can endlessly dig into the superstructure of class and class consciousness and how it performs itself in the UK but he's absolutely nailed a fundamental truth here
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 September 2024 10:02 (one year ago)
and also yeah the damage to my blood pressure every time i see some middle class centrist cunt giving it the old "posh student trust fund leftists" spiel
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 September 2024 10:03 (one year ago)
off-topic - but this guy's other writings give me a strong Tony Parsons in the 1990s vibe, and I can't stand his writing in general, for example:
Still, boot licking members of the aspirational classes still secretly believe that these double barrelled dopes must be smart because - well - they speak a bit of Latin and get their suits from Savile Row.Oh well, none of that matters too much now because the normal people are in charge again: politicians with the intelligence, the work ethic and the compassion that comes from growing up in small houses, living among unconventional families and learning in big, scruffy, brilliant schools.Like I say, it’s been a bit of a tough year. But just recently things have started to feel a whole lot better.Come on England!
Oh well, none of that matters too much now because the normal people are in charge again: politicians with the intelligence, the work ethic and the compassion that comes from growing up in small houses, living among unconventional families and learning in big, scruffy, brilliant schools.
Like I say, it’s been a bit of a tough year. But just recently things have started to feel a whole lot better.
Come on England!
― Bob Six, Saturday, 28 September 2024 10:27 (one year ago)
He was writing in the Indie so yeah definitely cautious with my praise
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 September 2024 10:29 (one year ago)
Oh sweet the phone post echo, haven't done one of those for a while
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 September 2024 10:30 (one year ago)
Lab is full of grifters like this who will quit in a huff because grifting isn't public service
🔺EXCLUSIVE: Rosie Duffield (@RosieDuffield1) has resigned as a Labour MP, blaming Sir Keir Starmer’s “cruel and unnecessary” policies and the freebies row that is engulfing him and his party— The Times and The Sunday Times (@thetimes) September 28, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 28 September 2024 16:50 (one year ago)
Any bets she's quitting because she was promised a cabinet role (as some kind of TERF czar probably) which never materialized?
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Saturday, 28 September 2024 17:00 (one year ago)
100%
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 28 September 2024 17:12 (one year ago)
She has probably been planning this for about four years.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 28 September 2024 17:17 (one year ago)
Operation Flounce
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 28 September 2024 17:19 (one year ago)
Lol I've just seen this, I'm sure she's taking a principled stand
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 September 2024 04:20 (one year ago)
who will now represent the proud socialists of (checks notes) fucking Canterbury?
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 September 2024 09:10 (one year ago)
tbf, Canterbury has a big student population and, with much of Kent with good transport links to London, a changing set of demographics. One of Duffield’s supporters’ arguments has always been that only she could hold such a traditionally Conservative seat so Labour should stick with her, but it’s not really true. The Tories have fewer seats than the Lib Dems on the council these days and both are behind Labour.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 29 September 2024 09:26 (one year ago)
Yeah, to an extent that feels something of a rerun of you're not working class if you're preparing sandwiches of sourdough instead of white sliced from upthread
― anvil, Sunday, 29 September 2024 10:06 (one year ago)
sure it was a lazy zing, i'm pretty comfortable identifying her supporters as transphobic pigs tho
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 September 2024 10:29 (one year ago)
Canterbury has lots of DFLs now, including a transphobic former friend who has been radicalised by proximity to Duffield. These people are toxic and they’re in all parties and none.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Sunday, 29 September 2024 11:00 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/29/kemi-badenoch-not-all-cultures-equally-valid-immigration
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 September 2024 11:16 (one year ago)
Diversity win! The first openly fascist leader of a major UK political party could be a black woman!
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 29 September 2024 17:41 (one year ago)
“I think that cultures where women are told that they should not work; I would knock on doors … and you would see somebody at the door who says: ‘I can’t speak to you, I will get my husband.’ I don’t think that is as equally valid as our culture.Those women just think you're an idiot Kemi (in a party with <25% women)
― nashwan, Sunday, 29 September 2024 18:05 (one year ago)
I've read people on here saying she's not that bad really - wrong, she's a nutcase.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 September 2024 21:51 (one year ago)
Related to the i article above, this is good https://bsky.app/profile/gralefrit.bsky.social/post/3l2m4sa7ed72x
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 29 September 2024 23:15 (one year ago)
yes, good thread, though annoying that he chose fleabag (a good show about openly upper-middle people) as an example when there are countless worse offenders out there.
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 30 September 2024 05:33 (one year ago)
good to see Badenoch taking aim against that most hated and unjust intervention by the state... maternity benefit???
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 30 September 2024 08:25 (one year ago)
heartbreaking, the worst person you know just made a great point
🚨 NEW: Kemi Badenoch has declared that ‘there are too many podcasts’“I don’t like to listen to the ones that go on for three hours with people droning on and on” [@hoffman_noa]— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) September 30, 2024
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Tuesday, 1 October 2024 08:59 (one year ago)
Kemi go on Backlisted
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 October 2024 09:08 (one year ago)
it's a joke account
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 1 October 2024 09:09 (one year ago)
kemi is right and she should say it
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Tuesday, 1 October 2024 09:17 (one year ago)
Noa Hoffman from The Sun is also a joke account.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 1 October 2024 09:19 (one year ago)
what’s the actual point of these useless xuntshttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/01/treasury-asking-ministers-to-draw-up-billions-of-pounds-of-infrastructure-cuts
― secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Tuesday, 1 October 2024 18:22 (one year ago)
merge all the various podcasts into a single universal podcast: easier to administrate, saves the Treasury millions.
― fetter, Tuesday, 1 October 2024 18:38 (one year ago)
Not enough flags
🚨 NEW: Keir Starmer pictured on the phone with Israeli PM Netanyahu just as Iran began its attack on Israel📸 Simon Dawson / No 10 pic.twitter.com/olwDihn0HW— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) October 1, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 October 2024 22:00 (one year ago)
are we gonna keep posting from that account like it's real
― imago, Tuesday, 1 October 2024 22:03 (one year ago)
Yes, its funny.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 October 2024 22:10 (one year ago)
am i missing a joke here?
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 06:56 (one year ago)
Critical support for bad enoch on the podcast issue
― SPENGE (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 07:23 (one year ago)
A wetter more depressing place.
Another scale busting map!September rainfall for the UK.Huge variation but parts of southern England seeing over three & a half times their average rainfall.Incredibly Bedfordshire & Oxfordshire saw their wettest month (of any month) in at least 188 years. pic.twitter.com/fDgbVaeJCz— Dave Throup (@DaveThroup) October 1, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 October 2024 10:19 (one year ago)
during a very unusually dry month in Scotland, the Shetland Isles had a higher than average amount of sunlight hours than most of England, according to MET office.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 10:37 (one year ago)
oh I was posting on my phone, didn't notice the tweet included a rainfall map illustrating everything I just posted!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 10:47 (one year ago)
"Kier Starmer pays back £6,000 worth of gifts and hospitality" - this feels like he's hit the bullseye of "big enough to annoy people who've been turning up in front of cameras for weeks claiming there's nothing wrong, small enough to still annoy everyone who thinks he's crooked"
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 2 October 2024 15:49 (one year ago)
Yeah the most dithering loser move possible, man excels himself again
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 16:04 (one year ago)
Also please stop gendering Israel, Keir - it’s creeeeepy.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 16:24 (one year ago)
Sir Keir Starmer on the phone with Benjamin Netanyahu. Pic: Number 10
they need to stop doing this gruesome West Wing fanfic as well, especially with such an unserious dipstick as Kieth. Most of the world thought Macron looked like an even bigger cunt than usual when his office put out the "on the phone with Putin pic" as well.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 17:17 (one year ago)
"The money was just resting in my account"
This is a minor technical breach related to registration as a charitable trustee. https://t.co/JaAtOLmjpf— Siobhain McDonagh (@Siobhain_Mc) October 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 October 2024 20:21 (one year ago)
"minor technical breach related to registration as a charitable trustee"
let's see if this shit works for the P Diddy defense!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 20:24 (one year ago)
Just resurfacing a piece I did on the displaced Chagos Islanders living in the UK and the terrible housing conditions they face in the private rented sector. Hope today's news marks a step towards some kind of justice for them https://t.co/3p85ikVc2l— Peter Apps (@PeteApps) October 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 October 2024 16:51 (one year ago)
A violin so small it has ceased to exist.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2024/oct/04/west-ham-owner-wealthy-leaving-uk-non-dom-crackdown
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Friday, 4 October 2024 05:57 (one year ago)
The idea that anyone has the wherewithal to own a 65 million pound townhouse in central London makes my blood boil. Then again, why tax the rich when you can kick the pensioners.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 4 October 2024 06:32 (one year ago)
Tiny violin also pressed into service for this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9580dx1y2o
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 4 October 2024 08:32 (one year ago)
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/645/713/888.jpg
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 4 October 2024 08:37 (one year ago)
Not just any Tory but an especially repellent and publicity hungry one as his Wiki page amply demonstrates.
In October 2020, after voting against a Labour Party Opposition Day Motion to extend free school meals until Easter 2021,
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Friday, 4 October 2024 08:39 (one year ago)
Gullis said that he would not address a "baying mob" in response to an alleged planned protest during his visit to a church foodbank
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Friday, 4 October 2024 08:41 (one year ago)
After a few days of some flooding, and much flooding in the US.
Committing £22 billion to an unproven technology championed by THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY THAT GOT US INTO THIS CRISIS whilst scrapping £28 billion investment in climate solutions which...actually work?Make it make sense 😫https://t.co/FaLJr7qky7— Green New Deal Rising (@GNDRising) October 4, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 October 2024 09:27 (one year ago)
Forensic:
It absolutely is the right investment. It’s very important in relation to our climate obligations, and that’s why those leading the discussions in climate say this is the right thing to do.It is a recognition that when it comes to cement, to glass, to other vital industries, there’s an element of carbon, that if we’re to support those industries going forward we need to find a way of capturing that and ensuring that through initiatives like this, we can continue with glass production, we can continue with cement production.And therefore this has sort of got a double benefit, if you like. We’ve got the skills and the jobs and the potential to get ahead on carbon capture. That is a good thing in its own right. But secondly, it supports glass, it supports cement, it supports those industries where there’s always going to be an element of carbon.
It is a recognition that when it comes to cement, to glass, to other vital industries, there’s an element of carbon, that if we’re to support those industries going forward we need to find a way of capturing that and ensuring that through initiatives like this, we can continue with glass production, we can continue with cement production.
And therefore this has sort of got a double benefit, if you like. We’ve got the skills and the jobs and the potential to get ahead on carbon capture. That is a good thing in its own right. But secondly, it supports glass, it supports cement, it supports those industries where there’s always going to be an element of carbon.
― RIO Speedwagon (Matt #2), Friday, 4 October 2024 11:01 (one year ago)
Corporate carbon capture
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 4 October 2024 11:11 (one year ago)
> We’ve got the skills and the jobs and the potential to get ahead on carbon capture.
We’ve got the skills and the jobs and the potential to get ahead on real green technology.
(also, why not both?)
― koogs, Friday, 4 October 2024 11:34 (one year ago)
If I was repeatedly telling the nation that the government has no money I would make a point of making sure my big investments went to projects that were demonstrably not a load of greenwashing shite
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2024 11:39 (one year ago)
Net zero was always a load of bollocks, but this is insane. Building infrastructure to modify the outcomes of climate change would actually be a source of growth (look at China's investment).
As it is many places are on track to be flooded, many will be killed and the insurance industry will suffer. All for dumb culture war crap.
Aside from everything else going on here, the fact things have moved so quickly from ‘net zero’ as a fudge where we pretend we’ve cut emissions through offsetting to talking about ‘net zero’ as an ‘finger-wagging extremist’ position is bleak. pic.twitter.com/RT71725wKD— Nick Bernards (@BernardsNick) October 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 October 2024 11:13 (one year ago)
You must have a pass to the 2019 conference! We've changed the party!
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 5 October 2024 11:34 (one year ago)
https://i.ibb.co/THt50Jy/GZG6-OWWWYAAXIAT.jpg
You must be thinking of the 2019 Keir Starmer! The one who promised climate justice! But I was lying like fuck to you and to everyone! You must be thinking of him! Fuck you and everyone who voted for me!
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 5 October 2024 11:53 (one year ago)
Sorry, kind of upset this morning
He's always putting things at the heart what they do and then forgetting he put them there.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 October 2024 12:11 (one year ago)
just talked to a councillor today who went to conference, he says he left after 1 day because it was so depressing
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 5 October 2024 15:39 (one year ago)
if the Tories had somehow won the election they'd be too busy knifing each other to achieve this level of active malevolence
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 October 2024 16:15 (one year ago)
the tories could still be in power - the deadline for the election hasn't passed yet
― koogs, Saturday, 5 October 2024 16:22 (one year ago)
Sue Gray quits her role as Chief of Staff.......I doubted she was the right person for this role - her Civil Service background is Propriety and Ethics, not the wheeling and dealing you need for a CoS role.
― Bob Six, Sunday, 6 October 2024 12:07 (one year ago)
She did a grand job on the old propriety and ethics, to be fair
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 6 October 2024 12:12 (one year ago)
McSweeney takes over as CoS, strap yourselves in
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 October 2024 12:16 (one year ago)
JFC, cue a zillion articles about MMcS being Our Bastard.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Sunday, 6 October 2024 12:18 (one year ago)
great, now the repellent creep, Morgan McSweeney is even more powerful.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 6 October 2024 12:19 (one year ago)
So...who is going to go after McSweeney, because factions fighting while doing nothing to keep the country from burning is what Lab is all about.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 October 2024 12:20 (one year ago)
Possibly naive question but what does Sue Gray going mean in the scheme of things?
― djh, Sunday, 6 October 2024 14:19 (one year ago)
she was a Starmer appointee, one of his top priority transfer signings, and now has become the scapegoat for how unpopular he is and how bad no 10 comms have been. Although I don't really believe any kind of spin meister could have made this shitshow any more palatable to the public. It seems amusing that there are factions amongst the right of the party amongst people who are basically the fucking same.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 6 October 2024 14:40 (one year ago)
Well one important thing she could have advised Starmer and the Cabinet, especially given her background in propriety and ethics, was:
"Don't take freebies, especially not all from the same labour peer, and consider how bad doing so might look if you've just campaigned on ticket of decency, honesty and the need for a fresh approach to politics."
She didn't even manage to do that!
― Bob Six, Sunday, 6 October 2024 14:56 (one year ago)
And her own son accepted a £10000 donation from Lord Alli. imho she's worse than useless.
― Bob Six, Sunday, 6 October 2024 14:59 (one year ago)
decency and honesty is what you have to campaign on when you're ideologically the same as the existing government tbf
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 October 2024 15:02 (one year ago)
Remember all the fuss from the Tories about how she'd stitched up Johnson over No.10 parties (not using the -gate word, nor the B word)? All ultimately futile, as it turns out she was just warming the seat until that McSweeney psycho could measure up the best backstabbing angle.
― RIO Speedwagon (Matt #2), Sunday, 6 October 2024 15:13 (one year ago)
Jonathan Freedland, Hadley Freeman, David Aaronovitch and David Baddiel quit the Jewish Chronicle because it is now a fascist gutter with no editorial standards and an anonymous ownership.Didn't stop someone... pic.twitter.com/NoTGZ468sd— jewdⒶs // ייִדהודה (@jewdas) October 6, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 7 October 2024 13:29 (one year ago)
Lol, that's just so insane he would publish there.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 12:24 (one year ago)
Anyway...
when it's definitely going well pic.twitter.com/m2hU69jS7z— Crowsa Luxemburg (@quendergeer) October 8, 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4GdWK_WoNs
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 8 October 2024 12:47 (one year ago)
Well well.
A survey of Tory members by ConservativeHome at the weekend implies that, if Cleverly and Badenoch are on the final ballot, Badenoch will win narrowly. Here are the figures, which suggest she is ahead of him by 48% to 42%, with don’t knows at 9%. If Badenoch can make the final ballot tomorrow, by overtaking Jenrick, and if she can hold this lead with members, she can win
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 15:55 (one year ago)
if she wins then it's a pact with Reform if not a merger, if a wet wins then there will be loads of defections to the same, either way we're currently on track for a far right party in power by 2029.
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 8 October 2024 16:14 (one year ago)
NHS hospitals are now charging patients £2/hr just to sit in a wheelchair in A+E. These are some of the sickest patients, who often have to wait hours to be seen.The NHS is crumbling, and is being eaten away by constant privatisation. When will @wesstreeting act? pic.twitter.com/Ee90DwZ5YO— Haseena (@HWazir6) October 8, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 October 2024 07:47 (one year ago)
if a wheelchair is parked up in a waiting room and effectively just being used as a seat, then the people who are profiting from this deserve to be executed and then charged postmortem for the space their corpse is taking up.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 08:06 (one year ago)
one thing that relentlessly depresses me is when people draw attention to politicians successes as though they were politicians failures in a way that far too generously misrecognises the intentions of politicians. at this point it applies to almost everything happening in politics and policy.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 08:09 (one year ago)
otm
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 08:24 (one year ago)
Extremely otm and it drives me crazy too
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 09:44 (one year ago)
Ok so...a black woman is close to becoming Tory leader...
NEW: CLEVERLY ELIMINATED FROM TORY LEADERSHIP CONTEST.BADENOCH: 42JENRICK: 41CLEVERLY: 37Extraordinary. One vote between Badenoch and Jenrick. And Badenoch again is the front runner.— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) October 9, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 October 2024 14:42 (one year ago)
i'd imagine the membership will be outraged that they've been denied the chance to vote for a "moderate" by their extremist MPs
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 16:04 (one year ago)
They're still annoyed they can't vote for Boris. Or Farage.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 16:17 (one year ago)
I imagine Jenrick is going to win this now because the party members have shown time and time again that they are willing to put their differences aside to settle on the white candidate.(I was subjected to a torrent of fury by Stephen Bush on BlueSky when I last said this)
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 16:42 (one year ago)
might be time to start thinking about how i could flee the country
this result is almost as if the extra-fash Tory MPs colluded to ensure it was both of their candidates on the final ballot
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 16:56 (one year ago)
Even with the pitiful shower of the current govt I can't see the Tories getting back in OR having any meaningful voice for a while yet. Kind of a placeholder role for now. A screensaver party leader.
― one by one the wombles are dying (Matt #2), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 17:01 (one year ago)
your regular ongoing reminder that Tories + Remain polled higher than Labour at the last election
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 17:06 (one year ago)
Labour won one election too early to be thinking about multiple victories. I think they can safely carry the can while Reform give the Conservatives a shot term substitution, would think they'd be comfortable odds on for a 2028 win
As to whether there is any meaningful distinction between the candidates, or the parties themselves, this seems to be something of a matter of opinion
― anvil, Wednesday, 9 October 2024 17:29 (one year ago)
if tories and reform had a pact as they did in 2019, they would have won, but farage decided it was too early and sunak was too unpopular.
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 17:46 (one year ago)
There was a lot of tactical voting going on as people realised the Tories were sunk though, possibly if there'd been a Tory/Reform alliance some of the electorate might have voted differently. We'll never know! Or we may find out at the next election in 2028 2027 2026 etc
― one by one the wombles are dying (Matt #2), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 18:03 (one year ago)
Yeah there's still enough bad blood that it's far from certain that all the Reform voters would vote Tory or vice versa.
There's probably some vote lending to blame for today's result, where Cleverly was ahead by 8 or 9 votes of the other two yesterday - tactical lending to him then, or from him now, or both.
I'm pretty certain they hate each other far more than they hate Cleverly
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 9 October 2024 20:17 (one year ago)
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Worry not. Lib Dems will rescue this Lab party.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 October 2024 20:55 (one year ago)
Conservatives elect their new very right-wing leader ⇒ Labour go "ha ha ha" & move onto Moderate-Tory-James-Cleverly territory ⇒ everything continues to get worse ⇒ Tories lead in the opinion polls ⇒ Labour shift even further right ⇒ everything still gets worse ⇒ GE 2029— Edmund Griffiths (@EdmundGriffiths) October 9, 2024
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 21:45 (one year ago)
https://news.sky.com/story/labours-employment-reforms-wont-become-law-for-two-years-as-government-seeks-to-reassure-business-13231031
Major employment reforms promised by Labour will not become law for at least two years, as the government seeks compromise between unions and businesses on measures intended to strengthen workers rights without hindering economic growth.
The Employment Rights Bill, introduced into parliament on Thursday, includes 28 measures, many of which will be subject to extended consultation, while more than 30 other pledges have no clear timetable for delivery.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 10 October 2024 11:15 (one year ago)
https://i.ibb.co/HVWYYDX/micah-and-izzy-v0-lrve8yt8r7oc1.webp
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 10 October 2024 11:17 (one year ago)
Weird compromise seems to be all one way
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 October 2024 11:38 (one year ago)
it's great how that whole class of parasites have successfully spun anything that even marginally impinges on their already grossly wealthy and overprivileged lifestyles as "hindering economic growth".
― a mysterious, repulsive form of energy that permeates the universe (ledge), Thursday, 10 October 2024 11:45 (one year ago)
yes but enough about the Labour right
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 10 October 2024 11:57 (one year ago)
it’s the bare minimum but at least this is happeninghttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2nz4zlgr4o
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 October 2024 19:09 (one year ago)
Rachel Reeves is completely obsessed with getting people off benefits by forcing them into work, but still wants it to be easy to take away people’s livelihoods, which will likely force them to rely on benefits. This is nonsensical. https://t.co/86DF1zlnVt pic.twitter.com/l2T0wcHOyD— Large Father (@shirleymush) October 10, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 11 October 2024 06:06 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/11/labour-carbon-capture-climate-breakdown
in a catalogue of evil i think the carbon capture scheme might be the most harmful thing they've committed to so far
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 October 2024 07:32 (one year ago)
It’s monumentally stupid. Just wait because the only wait to make it remotely viable is to use the CO2 to force out more oil and gas, whilst conveniently ignoring fugitive emissions.
This like nuclear and hydrogen powered cars is a technology that doesn’t work has never worked and is unlikely ever to work;, doesn’t work economically and we have to waste so much intellectual capital on not doing it, which feels even more of a waste than the financial waste.
― Ed, Friday, 11 October 2024 07:42 (one year ago)
yeah you have to assume the diversionary nature of it is the point, which is why fossil fuel companies are bribing them to do it
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 October 2024 07:47 (one year ago)
it's not even cheap - it's a very expensive folly that will only seem worse after more local authority budget cuts kick in. These people are braindead.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 11 October 2024 07:50 (one year ago)
I accept that these morons haven't got any green policies worth shit. But that level of a splurge on carbon capture bullshit, it's money that could be used to fix the NHS/fix social care. Something that will actually make a difference.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 11 October 2024 07:58 (one year ago)
Fun to read pages and pages of glowing panegyric about the Morganiser’s giant political brain and instinctive connection to the public and the working class, and then refer to this table https://t.co/Yi9hdr05JF— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) October 9, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 11 October 2024 09:14 (one year ago)
Insane to do fuck all about climate change. But maybe its too big a challenge for a country that has done v well out of capitalism.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 October 2024 09:47 (one year ago)
To the managerial class 'net zero' is not much more than a point on a graph. If they can fiddle some figures and employ a few workarounds to 'achieve' it then it's tick the box, job done. They genuinely think economics is the hardest of hard sciences.
― one by one the wombles are dying (Matt #2), Friday, 11 October 2024 10:31 (one year ago)
Last week the UK grid moved completely off coal forever and there are some encouraging developments from tidal-based electricity out there. As far as reducing consumption well...lowering birthrate in rich countries?..ok nm.
― nashwan, Friday, 11 October 2024 10:36 (one year ago)
There was an article in the FT, I think? last week, saying that the most important thing was financial returns for companies based on current economic consensus, and that climate goals and public acceptance of what should be done for climate had to be based on that, rather than the other way round. It was nothing less than a psychotic manifesto for the end of all life on Earth, but it is how our current government thinks whether it says so or not. And until climate breakdown produces a social revolution it's going to be prevailing direction for all Western governments.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 11 October 2024 11:41 (one year ago)
And until climate breakdown produces a social revolution
by which point it will be too late
― a mysterious, repulsive form of energy that permeates the universe (ledge), Friday, 11 October 2024 11:51 (one year ago)
Its not altogether clear that that social revolution will be a positive one (though it might be), even if it does arrive on time
― anvil, Friday, 11 October 2024 11:56 (one year ago)
Oh absolutely. It will just as likely be climate fascism. But because the floods will be at Westerner's doors they will demand a change from business as usual.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 11 October 2024 12:03 (one year ago)
You would think so, but Floridians don't seem to be anywhere close to making such demands (at least not yet)
― anvil, Friday, 11 October 2024 12:05 (one year ago)
We are jumping several steps ahead. See some intensification of what we are seeing: some items disappear from the shops permanently. A lot more migrants attempting to get to Europe (some from other parts of Europe). More deaths of European holidaymakers from heat, as well as here, as poor housing stock is exposed. Flooding will cause tens of billions worth of damage and will lead to stress in the financial system as insurance struggles to cope.
Whether this leads to socialism or fascism might depend on which actors are present to take advantage. I feel there is room for more Corbyn and Farage types to occupy that space.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 October 2024 12:19 (one year ago)
Anyway as I was saying on the Trump thread, it will be bleak. My parents knew a mostly quiet life of work, raising children, a comfortable existence...don't know if that's gonna be possible for many.
Which is sad.
Think of the good novels that will be written tho'.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 October 2024 12:24 (one year ago)
This came on randomly a few days ago, some guy interviewing people in Dover. The first half is various different people from the town, but the more interesting second half of it is all with one guy, a migrant from South Sudan, who came across both the Mediterranean and the Channel in a dinghy, and now lives in Dover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBrrCaIQjuo
― anvil, Friday, 11 October 2024 12:37 (one year ago)
Fun day at work observing the varied ways passengers have decided to fuck up our displays of boris johnsons new book. From turning them upside down, back to front, replacing half the display with the book 'surrounded by liars' taking the harvard business book ' who would be led by you' and putting it in the middle of the boris table. One old guy was reduced to swearing at the display and tearing the pages out of one copy. Haven't had a reaction like this in the shop since Blair's book came out and people were forever relocating it to the true crime section.
― oscar bravo, Friday, 11 October 2024 20:09 (one year ago)
ppl mad this guy finally gets to say what he wants
― nashwan, Friday, 11 October 2024 20:10 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/oct/11/p0-ferries-owner-pulls-news-of-1bn-port-investment-after-ministers-criticise-firm
Thought Kieth could chair a meeting?
"One finance industry executive compared the organisation of the upcoming investment summit unfavourably with similar events held by President Macron in France. They said: “Getting information and the usual things you need to brief your CEO has been difficult. The timings are late, details of the venue late, and also the opportunities for things like meetings on sidelines and knowing who else is going.”"
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 October 2024 20:41 (one year ago)
Louise High, working class lege
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 October 2024 11:34 (one year ago)
Haigh, but she might be high too, what with insulting wealth creators..
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 October 2024 11:35 (one year ago)
Apparently Rayner is in trouble too for calling P&O's conduct "outrageous". That's not the word I would have used though.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Saturday, 12 October 2024 11:43 (one year ago)
you can't have Labour MPs saying mean things about business
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 October 2024 12:04 (one year ago)
all options, apart from sucking up to big business and literally giving them a blowjob is "anti-growth". This is a party political broadcast from the UK Labour Party.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 12 October 2024 12:37 (one year ago)
Starmer has done so badly that Labour has already been caught in the polls by the Tories, a party that everyone hates and that hasn’t even got a leader. https://t.co/8ByzAc0mf6— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) October 13, 2024
don't disagree that Starmer is doing a bad job, but not having a leader is probably helping the tories at the moment polling-wise, right? Particularly given that when they do get a leader it's going to be Kemi Badenoch or Robert Jenrick. Like when they do those opinion polls where "someone else" reliably outpolls all the actual politicians
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 14 October 2024 11:21 (one year ago)
Could go either way, I suspect whoever gets the Tory leadership will probably get at least a few weeks of poll rise tho, it's pretty much a free hit at the moment
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 October 2024 12:01 (one year ago)
Was there always this endless obsession with polls several years out from any potential election? It's like a constant league table, seems largely irrelevant at this point in time.
― the nervous laughter of fools (Matt #2), Monday, 14 October 2024 12:18 (one year ago)
It's completely irrelevant, Starmer's government are in power for as long as they want to be in power and there's nothing anyone else can do about it.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Monday, 14 October 2024 13:07 (one year ago)
I do worry about how Starmer would fare against Badenoch if she becomes leader, feel like Starmer's thing of being too boring to like but also too boring to hate that he kind of made work for him in opposition doesn't work now he's in government and has actual responsibilities and people have to see and hear him everyday, under those circumstances his dreariness curdles into something that inspires contempt rather than indifference, like an ineffectual line manager who wouldn't make any impression on you at all if you met them in other circumstances but is insufferable when you have to deal with them every day at work. Whatever else you can say about her Badenoch seems good at channelling anger and resentment, and at sounding like she's speaking her mind rather than triangulating, think Starmer might struggle against that.
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 14 October 2024 13:18 (one year ago)
starmer is going to fare poorly against pretty much anyone in general now that he's pm and people expect him to actually do things that aren't terrible despite all his instincts to the contrary
the polls are mostly notable right now for how just quickly any hint of labour having any popularity has vanished. if things continue like this for another year or two then i'm sure streeting or someone will be ready with the knives
― ufo, Monday, 14 October 2024 14:04 (one year ago)
"Starmer's thing of being too boring to like but also too boring to hate"
you must be joking, I follow ppl on twitter whose burning hatred of him has not dimmed in the slightest since 2020 and are still hate-posting about him on the daily. He's a very hateworthy character on many different levels. I'd still push him in front of a speeding bus, just to watch the cunt die, and not feel one iota of guilt about it. It looks like the british public that all voted for this vile piece of slime also want him to die now!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 14 October 2024 14:35 (one year ago)
he's a deceitful, bigoted, insincere, weak-kneed piece of slime, and resembles nothing like a human being to me. I'd never hate anybody for just simply being boring.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 14 October 2024 14:47 (one year ago)
I think 'too boring to like but also too boring to hate' is how most of the public thought of him prior to him becoming PM, but is not sustainable when people actually have to see and hear him regularly, the haters on twitter were engaged enough to already be seeing and hearing a lot of him so they started hating him before everyone else
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 14 October 2024 14:49 (one year ago)
.. or consider Kieth's crimes against the Labour membership not to be taken into account, just because he's a very dull character
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 14 October 2024 14:50 (one year ago)
The fun thing is he doesn't have a core constituency now - the left and right hate him, for different reasons, but centrists are coming round to despising him because he's showing them up for idiots. All he has is aggro briefcase wankers, and they are mostly concentrated in parliament and councils.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 14 October 2024 14:52 (one year ago)
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Monday, 14 October 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Exactly this in normal times. And yet our times are far from what I have seen.
Its pretty clear Starmer will be a one term PM. Remarkable, given this much of a majority.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 October 2024 17:26 (one year ago)
He might not even last the one term. Thing is where does the challenge come from? Is there anybody in the PLP who hasn't got a deficit obsessed austerity mindset and thinks the only way to improve Healthcare and Infrastructure is through more fucking PFI shit. Is there anyone there who could do the same terrible regressive policies without being hated? I doubt it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 14 October 2024 17:41 (one year ago)
there'll be all sorts of vested interests propping this cunt up for a long time to come imo. perfect compliant stooge leading a party of conniving bootlickers who'd sell their own mothers for a little bump of power
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 14 October 2024 17:43 (one year ago)
Basically at the mid point to both of your posts in that he lasts for the next 3.5 years or so.
The pressure will only come along when they lose badly at the next set of council elections, the polls keep tanking, even if the Tories aren't polling great Reform and Greens will.
Then there will be a lot of pressure from intensifying climate events, that could actually lead to major upheaval that Starmer (bcz he isn't v good as a politician) just gives up on (think Cameron calling the Brexit vote and resigning).
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 October 2024 17:57 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/14/keir-starmer-promise-slash-red-tape-investment-summit
Starmer will say in his keynote speech on Monday: “We’ve got to look at regulation where it is needlessly holding back the investment, to take our country forward.
“Where it is stopping us building the homes, the datacentres, warehouses, grid connectors, roads, train lines, you name it then mark my words – we will get rid of it. We will rip out the bureaucracy that blocks investment and we will make sure that every regulator in this country take growth as seriously as this room does.”
Some in the union movement expressed concern at the prospect of another deregulatory push, with one likening Starmer’s tone to that of his predecessor David Cameron, who swept away building safety regulations as part of a “bonfire of red tape”.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 14 October 2024 21:24 (one year ago)
Yup. This government is basically a return of Cameron-like politics, except giving a few crumbs for the left.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 October 2024 21:37 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/oct/14/unemployed-could-be-given-weight-loss-jabs-to-get-back-to-work-says-wes-streeting
Not that this will happen as it's only Streeting bigging up 'wonder' drugs pushed by his PFI chums, but "take these potentially lethal obesity pills or we cut your benefits off" truly sounds like a Black Mirror premise rejected for not actually being funny.
― the nervous laughter of fools (Matt #2), Monday, 14 October 2024 23:50 (one year ago)
I don't think he'll last a term. It's not just that his politics are awful, he just doesn't have any political savvy either, as his dreadful first 100 days have demonstrated. Something will terminally trip him up eventually.
― Zelda Zonk, Monday, 14 October 2024 23:59 (one year ago)
Thing is where does the challenge come from?
it probably comes from someone even worse who will manage to be hated even more
― ufo, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 01:30 (one year ago)
i guess i can see a case where someone from the soft left ends up leader after starmer is forced out because streeting etc. fail to win over the labour membership for good reason, but then the right probably go back into full-on wrecking mode and things get stupider in a different way
― ufo, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 01:35 (one year ago)
Make your mind up, Wes.
https://news.sky.com/story/dont-use-ozempic-or-wegovy-for-instagram-perfect-body-says-health-secretary-13233612
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 08:41 (one year ago)
genuine q, what is the "soft left"?
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 09:05 (one year ago)
Liberals who can be bullied by the right of the Lab party.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 09:19 (one year ago)
here they are!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZ7I65vXIAAyWpc?format=jpg
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 10:22 (one year ago)
https://i.redd.it/2lpnk55gjm791.png
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 10:29 (one year ago)
a concept of a plan
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 10:30 (one year ago)
ooo remembers fontana real binmen series
https://www.worldofbooks.com/cdn/shop/files/1659357868BPG_1.jpg
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 10:48 (one year ago)
here they are! 🖼
― gyac, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 10:51 (one year ago)
Sincerely hope you guys aren't sexually harassing Dunt and Lynskey
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/bald-hair-men-man-ruling-high-court-latest-tony-finn/
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 11:16 (one year ago)
"finn vs the british bung company" sounds like the worst film theyll show all christmas
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 11:24 (one year ago)
including being called a "stupid bald c***"
now that's exactly what they should have called their podcast!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 11:49 (one year ago)
I have a batch of personalised gift shampoo sets for D+L, I'll send them some at Christmas. On the label it reads "For All Hair Types (apart from stupid bald cunts)"
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 12:04 (one year ago)
Alex Salmond ‘died while opening bottle of ketchup’
man got ketched!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 15:21 (one year ago)
Noviketchok strikes again
― the nervous laughter of fools (Matt #2), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 15:43 (one year ago)
Must’ve been a bottle of HP.
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 15 October 2024 16:45 (one year ago)
Another day, another sticky plaster scheme.
this is potentially a good idea but going from experiment to large scale provision is always tricky and I bet someone suggests that a cheap way to do it would be via a large contract to a private equity owned provider.https://t.co/74HiWMR1I9— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) October 16, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 October 2024 07:19 (one year ago)
This is harassment of people who are, at the very least, stressed and on medication, or worse?
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 October 2024 07:38 (one year ago)
Home visits team has a backlog that can be measured in months at the moment btw
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 09:29 (one year ago)
I ended up missing a UC standard identity interview because it literally read that they would "call me" when they had an interview slot for me. They didn't call me at all, and just notified me by my account so I missed it. If I'm informed someone is going to call me - I will wait for a phone call, call me old fashioned - but an email/account update IS NOT A FUCKING CALL!!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 10:45 (one year ago)
Great points here.
Working longer and irregular hours can contribute to obesity; shift and irregular work impacts sleep patterns and metabolism (& contributes to cancer); low wages and worsening working conditions negatively impact diet, activity, stress levels which in turn contributes to obesity https://t.co/xWKnalKKcF— kate flood 🇵🇸 (@KateFlood) October 16, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 October 2024 13:16 (one year ago)
'will be given' eh?
― nashwan, Wednesday, 16 October 2024 13:23 (one year ago)
is this the same medication that boris was shilling recently?
― koogs, Wednesday, 16 October 2024 13:39 (one year ago)
we've got the stingiest, most punitive welfare system of any wealthy Euro shithole. There aren't enough savings to make from welfare cuts from an already cut to shreds welfare system that will change the game, as Osborne learned. These people are not just sinister, corrupt and evil. They are also some of the dumbest motherfuckers ever seen in UK political history.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 13:49 (one year ago)
The op ed is paywalled and the BBC coverage is inconclusive - is the proposal actually to make these injections mandatory in order to access benefits??
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 16 October 2024 14:04 (one year ago)
Surely unemployment isn’t so low that they need to harass the severely mentally ill into work?
― gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2024 14:18 (one year ago)
The visibility of the cruelty is the entire point
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 14:56 (one year ago)
I can’t see a ward manager admitting one of these vultures to a unit.
The problem with mental illness and employment is that we see stories in the papers about incredibly privileged people with mental health issues succeeding because they have every possible adjustment at work, which is another facet of aspirationalism everyone else affected struggles to attain (along with secure employment).
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 15:18 (one year ago)
Just trying to survive on less than enough money to pay your bills is so tiring and mentally damaging that the benefits system is effectively deskilling people and making them less employable. Which, again, is part of the point
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 15:49 (one year ago)
I have worked with obese people who were much more productive workers than the gymnasium poseur lads if the motivation was there. This was working in the electrical installation game and sometimes there were opportunities to make some decent money, albeit for some very hard work. But dogging hard for poverty wages is beyond difficult, no matter your BMI/fitness levels. It's like spiritually dying every day and then dying some more and then taking a shower under a stream of shit!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 17:53 (one year ago)
pic.twitter.com/6WVQRUM3ij— The Gordon Jackson Five (@mypalfootfoot7) October 16, 2024
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 20:08 (one year ago)
disgusting:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/17/labour-backtracks-genocide-ruling-china-uyghurs-lammy-visit
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 17 October 2024 12:20 (one year ago)
At least their approach to genocide is consistent
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2024 15:50 (one year ago)
It's nice to see that Munya Chawawa vid about Starmer lacking a spine go viral, but he is of course missing the point: Starmer thinks that Palestinians being massacred in their tens of thousand is good, actually, because he is a racist and genocidaire.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 17 October 2024 17:26 (one year ago)
you don't get a fucking trilateral commission invite if you are squeamish about genocide
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 17 October 2024 17:30 (one year ago)
UK ministers to stick by Tory plan for £1.3bn of cuts to sickness benefits https://t.co/jiWOf6q2Uo— Financial Times (@FT) October 17, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 October 2024 08:35 (one year ago)
I don't understand what can be cut when people already aren't being given enough to live on
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2024 11:26 (one year ago)
People’s lives.
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 18 October 2024 11:32 (one year ago)
I've had some horrific thoughts - reduce other benefits for PIP recipients, cut the LCWRA amount for UC claimants?
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2024 11:35 (one year ago)
making people who can't work much poorer, yeah that would really get the economy cooking and be a supersonic boon for growth! Remember when Gideon did all this shit and all national debt was wiped clean and there was massive economic growth. That Mayonaisse-Keynes fellow ain't got nothing on these fucking economic superbrains. Just plow on with the socially destructive shit that didn't fucking work previously .. the alleged adults in the room.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 18 October 2024 12:20 (one year ago)
could you imagine being a politician and looking at the least generous disability benefits in western Europe and saying, we've got to make some cuts here lads, they are getting paid too much. I'm glad Liz Kendall is looking so haggard and tired in that pic, I genuinely hope the job kills her!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 18 October 2024 14:16 (one year ago)
I hope anything does tbh
― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2024 14:21 (one year ago)
Tories were leering, performative cruelty, this is sadface performative cruelty hiding behind fiscal responsibility, thus giving them plausible deniability for driving even more of the citizenry into poverty at the behest of their sponsors.
― the nervous laughter of fools (Matt #2), Friday, 18 October 2024 14:34 (one year ago)
Problem is AI will be used to deliver healthcare and all sorts by the government itself. There will be many disasters to come, with shittier than usual soap plotlines being the least of it.
Creatives have to make a stand and boycott broadcasters who do this. Everyone who lost opportunities during the US strike has to be willing to do the same here pic.twitter.com/2YXGvI2A8d— Cat Jones (@CatJwrites) October 20, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 October 2024 14:12 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/21/martyn-blake-met-police-officer-who-shot-chris-kaba-acquitted
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 October 2024 16:31 (one year ago)
well there's a surprise
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 21 October 2024 17:43 (one year ago)
that poor family, so heartbreaking but eh shit happens apparently :(
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 21 October 2024 17:46 (one year ago)
Elsewhere on the internet John Burn-Murdoch is giving a perfect illustration of center left thinking.
Tom nooooooo, just like with building more housing, if anyone stands to make as much as £1 it must be stopped immediately— John Burn-Murdoch (@jburnmurdoch) October 21, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 08:53 (one year ago)
He's just pissy because so many people clowned him for his "what's wrong with selling Peter Thiel everybody's health info?" take
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2024 11:07 (one year ago)
Yeah, think that's where his politics came out in the open. Can't hide behind a graph.
Which is politics that wants to present as helping the poor but actually cedes ground to the right and loses in the long run.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 11:13 (one year ago)
Some nice news for a change.
In Somerset, a giant science experiment to tackle flooding began 10 years ago.Rather than trying to resist the sea, a large tract of land was surrendered to it. Lots of people were opposed. The local MP called it “an extravagant, ridiculous scheme”🧵 pic.twitter.com/nx3r21NkxB— Esther Bintliff (@estherbintliff) October 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 08:21 (one year ago)
Meanwhile this is what Lab are doing about the environment.
Environment secretary @SteveReedMP accepted tickets from a company linked to Northumbria waterHe says he didn't know about the links between the two companies...👀#KayBurley SS pic.twitter.com/nmDyyLOe9r— Kay Burley (@KayBurley) October 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 08:35 (one year ago)
On the plus side if Trump wins the special relationship will be toast.
Trump campaign takes legal action over Labour Party’s support for Harris https://t.co/iO7iMS5ga7— Nile Gardiner (@NileGardiner) October 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 10:38 (one year ago)
Xxp the nice news being that people were opposed and the mp called it ridiculous?
― SPENGE (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 23 October 2024 10:38 (one year ago)
(xp) Yes the legal statements put out by the Trump team are the funniest thing they've done all year.
― The count has shot himself (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 October 2024 10:55 (one year ago)
― SPENGE (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 23 October 2024 bookmarkflaglink
And that Somerset has been saved...maybe that's not so nice.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 11:23 (one year ago)
wow harsh
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 October 2024 11:30 (one year ago)
i'm getting a window survey done to replace two windows. this guy calls me "sir" constantly which is a little grating. i ask if he wants some tea, or water, and he asks for a black coffee, which i make, and then he starts talking to me about TV shows. i tell him i mainly listen to the radio, just to close of his discussions of these shows. he says he does too. "what do you listen to?" i say. LBC in the morning, he says, and then TalkSport. fair enough i say. he asks me where i'm from, i tell him Tennessee, and he says "well at least you don't have all these buggers coming in from France on boats!" i'm kind of stunned. i say, well, we have plenty of people who come from other countries. like my family - originally Scottish! this doesn't faze him. "what i don't understand," he says "is that we pay France 500 million to monitor their coasts but these boats are still getting through!"
at this point i just can't stand this twerp, i just can't stand it. i say the situation makes me very sad. i ask him to imagine what it must be like to be so desperate, that your life is so messed up, that you're willing to risk it, and risk your children's lives, to climb into one of these boats. i tell him we have to stop thinking about this race, and that race, and this country and that country, and realise that we're all one human race. that we're all brothers and sisters. that we have to help each other, otherwise we're never going to make it.
he says that's right sir. all one human race. like when these people say black lives matter. all lives matter! we're all the same under the skin! i say yes, we are all the same, and worthy of love and respect. you're right. i couldn't agree more. right sir he says, now don't talk to me, i need to do the measurements and i don't want to make a mistake. go right ahead i say.
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 October 2024 12:00 (one year ago)
I doubt anything much will come of the matter, but I did at least appreciate the Guardian picking this photo of natural politician SKSKC
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/24/keir-starmer-urged-to-engage-on-reparations-at-commonwealth-summit
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 24 October 2024 12:41 (one year ago)
aw tracer i feel your pain
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 24 October 2024 12:46 (one year ago)
🚨Rachel Reeves allegedly LIED on her CVGuido has today claimed that the Chancellor has greatly exaggerated her position at HBOS. Reeves claimed she was an ‘Economist’ on her CV, but it turns out she may have only worked in the COMPLAINTS team!That was a small support unit… pic.twitter.com/cOiHPLcb4v— Alex Armstrong (@alexharmstrong) October 24, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 12:52 (one year ago)
and she is a shite chess player, allegedly, despite claiming to be a champion.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 12:53 (one year ago)
jfc tracer, just hate these situations and they seem to happen more and more frequently. every other time I take a taxi they have GB News on.
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 24 October 2024 12:58 (one year ago)
i've noticed this before in the UK, that when a racist finds out i'm from Tennessee they think that means i want to listen to their wearying racist bullshit!
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 October 2024 13:13 (one year ago)
long distance misinformation? apologies to chuck berry
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 13:25 (one year ago)
> Reeves claimed she was an ‘Economist’ on her CV, but it turns out she may have only worked in the COMPLAINTS team!
both these things can be true
― koogs, Thursday, 24 October 2024 14:33 (one year ago)
next you will be telling me that her 26th place finish in a chess competition does technically make her a "chess champion" and that the book she had published wasn't a load of plagiarised piffle and direct wiki c+ps eh? well I'm not listening, buddy!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 14:46 (one year ago)
she never said in an interview that she worked in the complaints division at HBOS. why? because it wouldn't make her look like a big dog of economics, she's a lying piece of shit and an economic lightweight to boot
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 14:50 (one year ago)
Hi deep does this go? Do we even have to question her claim that she gets her hair cut at a really good salon in London?
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 24 October 2024 14:56 (one year ago)
I think we can judge that one for ourselves.
― The count has shot himself (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 October 2024 14:58 (one year ago)
she claims Nancy Astor is her main political hero (and had a portrait of her on her feature wall of the office), yet if she had done even just a basic skim reading of N Astor history it would reveal that she was a pro-Nazi who embarrassed the Tories with her rampant antisemitism. So she's either for Nazi supporters or is so superficial and incurious that she doesn't know shit about her. Her whole bullshit persona is going to unravel now. Isn't a proper economist, a mediocre chess player, get's hair done at supercuts
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 15:10 (one year ago)
Unusual details in Wikipedia articles, they're all at it!
Astor's antisemitism has been widely documented and has been criticised in recent years, particularly in light of former Prime Minister Theresa May's 2019 unveiling of a statue in her honour with Prime Minister Boris Johnson in attendance,[2][4][74] and more recently after Labour MP Rachel Reeves commemorated Astor in a series of tweets.[75] The then-leader of the Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn, while opposed to her anti-Semitism, recognised she was the first woman MP to take up her place in Parliament and so praised installation of the statue, commenting "I'm really pleased the statue is going up".[76]During the George Floyd protests in 2020, the word "Nazi" was spray-painted on its base. The statue was on a list published on a website called Topple the Racists.[77]
During the George Floyd protests in 2020, the word "Nazi" was spray-painted on its base. The statue was on a list published on a website called Topple the Racists.[77]
― joe meek's cutoff (Matt #2), Thursday, 24 October 2024 15:18 (one year ago)
NA once lamented that it was a real shame the holocaust never got as far as Brooklyn. I'd say Corbyn ought to know better, but, lol, he doesn't and never has!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 15:21 (one year ago)
Stafford Cripps had her number. In parliament he referred to her as "our honourable member for Berlin". I mean, imagine the reaction if Jez had a portrait of her in his office.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 15:24 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/oct/24/uks-borrowing-costs-rise-on-news-that-reeve-is-changing-fiscal-rules
“It seems to be related to Reeves last night suggesting that the fiscal rules would be rewritten to increase spending on infrastructure,” Lyn Graham-Taylor, a senior rates strategist at Rabobank, told Reuters.
the idea that these bullshit fiscal rules were set in stone/non-negotiable as Reeves had been saying up to now was just such a fucking pointless and ultimately harmful self-restriction to put on a "change" govt. I guess she has been told as much.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 17:34 (one year ago)
created her own story that will cast this (theoretically) positive investment in the worst possible light - as a reversal, another "promise" broken. this is really huge-brained politics, absolutely masterful, grown-up stuff
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 October 2024 18:03 (one year ago)
there was an economist I listened to the other week, who was a former Bernie adviser and was talking about how regressive the UK Labour govt's fiscally hawkish deficit obsessed mindset is. She put it simply for an economics moron like me + said basically it's a historically antiquated gold standard era mindset, that doesn't belong here, like they don't have to find/produce the gold to pay for national infrastructure/healthcare/public services etc.. that's not how it works. And 14 years of that shit, you don't need to be a hotshot LSE grad to know that this has been a major fail, on every fucking metric - apart from if you belong in the top few %.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 October 2024 19:15 (one year ago)
This kind of thing makes me fume, people responsible should be in jail.https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/25/council-destroys-missing-tenants-belongings-after-banning-his-family-from-flat
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 October 2024 10:28 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/oct/25/new-uk-freeports-budget-labour-starmer?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
More favours for their corporate donors.
Critics of freeports say there is little evidence they attract new investment or help the economy. The Office for Budget Responsibility said in 2021 that tax breaks in England’s freeports would cost the government £50m a year and that their impact on GDP was likely to be so small it would be “difficult to discern even in retrospect”.
Trade unions have in the past called for clarity on how freeports impact on workers’ and union rights. The prime minister’s spokesperson said that “where necessary the government will make improvements to the freeport programme” and that the employment rights bill would help safeguard workers’ rights.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 25 October 2024 14:37 (one year ago)
Labour MP illustrates Labour attitude to the electorate in awkward symbolism shocker
🚨 BREAKING: Labour has suspended Mike Amesbury after CCTV showed him sucker punching a constituent pic.twitter.com/t9PMJ5d5Sg— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) October 27, 2024
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 October 2024 18:41 (one year ago)
No no nv. Political discourse in this country has been so eroded and divisive . MPs absolutely must be protected from the violence of some of these elements.
― oscar bravo, Sunday, 27 October 2024 20:16 (one year ago)
They're gonna parachute fucking Ashworth in here aren't they?
I bet Paul Mason's got his A2Z out already
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 October 2024 20:21 (one year ago)
put him in a cage with mike hookem
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 27 October 2024 20:42 (one year ago)
Lookalike: Otto and Wes.From the Private Eye Annual 2024, out now.The year's best cartoons, jokes, parodies and topical sketches from the UK's most successful satirical news and current affairs magazine, illustrated throughout with cartoons, sketches and photo-bubbles. 📕 In… pic.twitter.com/o3fJOTjRiF— Private Eye Magazine (@PrivateEyeNews) October 28, 2024
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Monday, 28 October 2024 19:10 (one year ago)
That’s Otto Pilot from Airplane for those who don’t want to follow the link.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Monday, 28 October 2024 19:11 (one year ago)
Another local, who didn't want to be named, said Mr Amesbury drank regularly with his friends in Frodsham and was often 'p***** up' in local bars.
This story is the gift that keeps giving.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14011613/MP-Mike-Amesbury-arguing-constituent-closure-bridge-punch.html
― The count has shot himself (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2024 20:22 (one year ago)
Total brainrot...
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/10e0/live/f73a6e00-953d-11ef-8e6d-e3e64e16c628.jpg.webp
― The count has shot himself (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2024 20:26 (one year ago)
Oops, wrong thread!
― The count has shot himself (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Quality intake of MPs.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2024 21:12 (one year ago)
This bus fare cap lift is hilarious, they are so cooked.
If you want an idea of why removing the £2 bus fare cap may be so damaging beyond polls, read Greg's quote from our focus group. At a time of deep political distrust it's one of few recent examples of a policy people can point to that tangibly improves their lives for the better pic.twitter.com/HBacQdz3ww— Luke Tryl (@LukeTryl) October 28, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 13:47 (one year ago)
it does seem like the act of someone who doesn't use buses
― koogs, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 14:04 (one year ago)
and hates poor people and universality
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 15:12 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/oct/29/hard-hit-defra-to-have-budget-slashed-further-despite-warnings
At Defra, these cuts are understood to largely fall on nature and flood protections. Plans to cut about £100m a year from England’s nature-friendly farming budget have been proposeed. As part of the EU, British farmers were allotted funding based on how much land they managed. The new post-Brexit scheme is financed by the UK government and pays farmers to protect nature. As 60% of land in England is farmed, this scheme is supposed to be the main driver in reducing species decline and restoring nature.
Reed has also refused to commit to flooding payments promised by the Conservatives, and Defra insiders have indicated this money is to be shaved back. As it stands, the Defra budget faces cuts of at least 20%, according to sources at the department.
Elliot Chapman-Jones, head of public affairs at The Wildlife Trusts, said: “Defra’s funding was slashed during austerity, hampering its ability to protect nature and stop river pollution. Nature is dying and without a substantial increase in funding – particularly for nature-friendly farming – the government’s target to halt nature’s decline by the end of the decade will be unachievable.”
Merrily destroying nature and the habitable environment to project "common sense" to the press who will them them anyway
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 16:22 (one year ago)
*will hate them anyway
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 16:23 (one year ago)
the £3 billion annual cost of extending the 5p fuel duty cut is roughly equivalent to the annual fare take of every bus in England — £3.1 billion in 2023. so you could nearly make every bus free for the same cost https://t.co/1bWvqcYVx8— Jon Stone (@joncstone) October 30, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 October 2024 19:25 (one year ago)
not even any comedy value here
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:09 (one year ago)
in a result that's surprised nobody
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:10 (one year ago)
The result was obvious as soon as they walked in the room, Badenoch smirking and Jenrick looking like he was about to burst into tears.
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:10 (one year ago)
looking forward to some big thinkpieces about identity and representation which will be bollocks but will also tell some truths about the Labour Party
― Book ChancemaN (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:12 (one year ago)
anyway, stoked for the sadness
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:18 (one year ago)
Can't wait to have proper fascism, none of this briefcase bollocks.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:46 (one year ago)
Apparently, even before the result was announced, there was a lot of chat among Tories about who is actually going to fight the next election. The assumption being it'll be Cleverley and that's why he isn't going to take up a Shadow Cabinet role.
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:49 (one year ago)
Might be a fun bet on neither of the current leaders to be there at the next GE
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:51 (one year ago)
If Tories do well at the next council elections she could be their candidate at the next GE?
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:58 (one year ago)
She's got to survive for 5 years, I don't see that happening.
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 11:59 (one year ago)
What do you think she will do so that Tory MPs get rid of her?
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:10 (one year ago)
Look like she's not going to win the next election.
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:15 (one year ago)
Anyway, there's plenty of time for things to go wrong especially if people were plotting who will be your successor before you were even crowned!
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:18 (one year ago)
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 bookmarkflaglink
The government is polling badly already. If Tories perform a bit more strongly at council level, and the base feels energized she will contest the GE.
But yeah its a long way to go, she is not exactly very bright
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:27 (one year ago)
if she can put together a pact with Reform then she's basically got it in the bag already. All that's left is for Labour to tack even further to the right to try to keep up.
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:35 (one year ago)
Pacts with Reform will require political skill to pull off. Huge opportunity for the next Tory leader in five years.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:40 (one year ago)
if badenoch ends up being utterly hopeless as leader it'll probably just be farage who benefits? labour's best hope is probably just for reform to keep splitting the vote enough to damage the tories without actually being able to win much
― ufo, Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:41 (one year ago)
The government has a majority of 174, they're not going anywhere for five years, not sure the fact that they're polling badly afer four months is telling us all that much tbh.
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:51 (one year ago)
I don't disagree the government will stay in for five years.
In terms of opposition, though, polling can be an indicator. If the Tories and Lab are equal now, then Badenoch has a lot of breathing room as opposed to IDS or whatever ghoul they had as leader.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:01 (one year ago)
I'm struggling to imagine a scenario where the Tories and Reform - or a good chunk of their voters at least - don't engineer a rapprochement at the next GE
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:18 (one year ago)
A lot of today's sophisticated racists can also clearly deal with a black leader if she offers them the right policies
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:20 (one year ago)
starmer tanking his own popularity pretty much immediately is a terrible sign for his ability to win the next election (unless he gets even luckier with how the right split themselves) & it's not like the party has any ideas that anyone will actually like. if things don't turn around some of the others in the party with ambition will try to force him out eventually, not that that will fix anything for them though.
― ufo, Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:26 (one year ago)
She’s in the fine tradition of being a jerk to people her supporters hate, and if the hated people are lefty Black and Asian people, so much the better for Tory members. I’ve heard lots of conservatives either side of the Atlantic use people like her to justify their own prejudices.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:29 (one year ago)
a really stupid thing that feels way too likely now that i've thought of it is labour's genius strategists deliberately trying to boost farage's popularity so that the right-wing vote will be even more split, but this would very likely just backfire and end up with farage on top
― ufo, Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:31 (one year ago)
Anyway this is all for tomorrow.
Let's enjoy a Tory wife crying.
Robert Jenrick's wife thought she had applauded Kemi Badenoch enough - then realised she had to carry on… 😂 pic.twitter.com/ZIHxdB8BwO— M A R T I N R O G E R S ⭐️ (@martinrogers92) November 2, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2024 13:35 (one year ago)
Lol tbf I usually get tired of clapping and tap out early in any situation
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2024 14:01 (one year ago)
add James Dyson to the people complaining about the budget, unsurprisingly
― koogs, Monday, 4 November 2024 08:26 (one year ago)
The worst person you know etc.
Kemi Badenoch: "I find it astonishing that Rachel Reeves keeps talking about how she's the first female Chancellor, which is a very, very low-glass ceiling... which she may have smashed."#bbclaurak pic.twitter.com/HWM6T9mnY0— Haggis_UK 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 (@Haggis_UK) November 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 November 2024 10:43 (one year ago)
looks like this is more about standard local government fuckery than politics but still another huge win for the most popular Labour Prime Minister ever
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/newcastle-labour-exodus-ex-council-30304663
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2024 18:02 (one year ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/06/donald-trump-tariffs-would-cut-uk-growth-by-half-and-push-up-inflation-thinktank-warns
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 07:53 (one year ago)
Lmao
Congratulations to @realDonaldTrump on your victory. The UK has no greater friend than the US, with the special relationship being cherished on both sides of the Atlantic for more than 80 years. We look forward to working with you and @JDVance in the years ahead.— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) November 6, 2024
― gyac, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 08:29 (one year ago)
Special relationship is going to the dogs.
Funny its happening to this government.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 08:36 (one year ago)
My own analysis of Hillary's harrowing defeat has come to the following conclusions; Liberals are great and we should carry on as normal.— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) November 9, 2016
lol, poor self-regarding shameless tosser Lammy and his tragically short-lived tenure as FS.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 08:59 (one year ago)
Re: Newcastle, here is the former (Corbynite) mayor of it and his take.
Labour have just lost control of Newcastle City Council, with 6 councillors resigning and becoming independents. I expect more will follow. I'll be supporting a progressive alliance in the next elections. pic.twitter.com/rfguKeMMHq— Jamie Driscoll (@JamieDriscollNE) November 5, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 09:36 (one year ago)
we’re gonna have a poster with an Orwell dn making that exact post in fairly short order, satire is dead on ilx xp
― Heartbreaking: the worst novel you’ve finished has a staggering genius (wins), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 09:40 (one year ago)
going to be galling watching this shower of cunts suck up to trump for the next four years
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 10:13 (one year ago)
Sadiq“I know that many Londoners will be anxious about the outcome of the US Presidential election. Many will be fearful about what it will mean for democracy and for women’s rights, or how the result impacts the situation in the Middle East or the fate of Ukraine. Others will be worried about the future of NATO or tackling the climate crisis. "London is - and will always be - for everyone. We will always be pro-women, pro-diversity, pro-climate and pro-human rights. "London is a place where we’re proud of our diversity, proud of the contribution of all our communities and proud of our spirit of unity. These are some of the values that will continue to bind us together as Londoners." "The lesson of today is that progress is not inevitable. But asserting our progressive values is more important than ever - re-committing to building a world where racism and hatred is rejected, the fundamental rights of women and girls are upheld, and where we continue to tackle the crisis of climate change head on."
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 10:32 (one year ago)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Flag_of_the_Greater_London_Authority_%282020%29.png
🤣
― conrad, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:28 (one year ago)
Good statement from Khan. Only one in the party with any balls it seems
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:40 (one year ago)
it's OK. I'll give it a 5/10.This guy gets a 0.https://i.postimg.cc/VN29FDqj/a6d10772-9163-4645-b9dc-c83e17f61b35.jpg
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:41 (one year ago)
Badenoch says when Trump was last president Labour MPs signed a motion saying Trump should not be allowed to speak in Westminster Hall. Will Starmer show that Labour are more than student politicians by inviting Trump to speak here on his next visit.
why is Badenoch using her debut PMQs to bash Labour for not loving Trump enough, isn't he massively unpopular with the UK public? Is this her trying to appeal to Reform voters or just her being a twitter-brained culture war true believer?
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 13:46 (one year ago)
Also still using the "student politics" slur when it's already been co-opted by Starmer? I don't see the point in that. I think we're about to find out she's another Conservative leader who is nowhere as smart as either she thinks she is or has been given credit for.
― biting your uncles (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 13:51 (one year ago)
She could never be as smart as she thinks she is.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 14:52 (one year ago)
Half of the public still doesn't even know who she is. If she can make Starmer look in bed with Trump, who is massively unpopular here, like you said, I don't think it hurts her - just him. As much as people didn't care for the bad warmongering policy, Blair being mates with Bush seemed to do as much damage in the publics eye, like he would put so much faith in someone treated as a dangerous dimwit.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 14:58 (one year ago)
she's a puddle deep culture-war/childish attention-seeker type pol, and clearly without even a slight clue on how to attack such a pitifully weak and unpopular opponent as Starmer yet. Weakest piss Tory LOTTO since quiet man.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 14:59 (one year ago)
Not defending her obviously, but I think if it works, Starmer looks like a prat and if it doesn't, she can brush it off without any issue.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 14:59 (one year ago)
Both those last 2 posts can be true at the same time, and I think they are
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 15:14 (one year ago)
Hearing that Labour activists added as many as minus 14 million votes to the Democrats total.— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) November 6, 2024
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 19:40 (one year ago)
fucking hell, Ashworth was over there. There is a man with the entitled rank arrogance, the self-awareness and integrity and complete deficit of any sense of democratic accountability, to be a real fucking asset to the Dems, loololl.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 19:53 (one year ago)
not keen on criticising people for being attention-seeking usually, but fucking hell lembit m8
I invite BBC to share one single neutral, or pro-Trump, report they’ve broadcast since his victory. I can’t find one. Unless BBC can and do share this, I’ll seek a legal perspective on their reportage of Trump in the context of the BBC Charter— Lembit Öpik (@lembitopik) November 6, 2024
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 November 2024 23:34 (one year ago)
The fish rots from the head pic.twitter.com/twkk5Lksyf— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) November 10, 2024
I think it's time we expel Keir Starmer from the Labour party for his disgraceful anti-Semitism
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 10 November 2024 12:49 (eleven months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/nov/12/justin-welby-step-down-archbishop-canterbury
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 14:16 (eleven months ago)
Another victory for the whole mob
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2024 15:12 (eleven months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/14/friendship-with-prince-charles-made-paedophile-bishop-peter-ball-impregnable
Considering his extremely unfortunate track record of friendship and association with paedophiles, probably best that King Charles doesn't get involved in the selection process, eh
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 15:30 (eleven months ago)
Good riddance
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 November 2024 15:34 (eleven months ago)
Keir Starmer is challenged by @AyoubKhanMP on Gaza and why he refuses to call Israel’s mass slaughter a genocide. His response: “Im well aware of the definition of genocide, and that’s why I’ve never referred to this as a genocide…” Human rights lawyer btw. Shameful. pic.twitter.com/NwZp67xMN7— Hamza Yusuf (@Hamza_a96) November 13, 2024
Starmer is loathsome racist genocidal scum
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 13 November 2024 14:41 (eleven months ago)
absolutely thrilled to discover that my local authority pension is not in fact something to help me afford food when i'm too old to work but a huge pile of finance capital for any fuckwit with a startup
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 November 2024 17:27 (eleven months ago)
Rachel Reeves has told City bankers attending her Mansion House speech that regulations put in place to protect the economy after the global financial crisis had “gone too far”.Speaking at the glitzy annual gathering in the Square Mile on Thursday, the chancellor called the financial services sector the “crown jewel” of the UK economy.She argued that tighter rules on banks and investment institutions after the 2007-8 crash had created “a system which sought to eliminate risk-taking”.“While it was right that successive governments made regulatory changes after the global financial crisis, to ensure that regulation kept pace with the global economy of the time, it is important that we learn the lessons of the past,” Reeves said.“These changes have resulted in a system which sought to eliminate risk-taking. That has gone too far and, in places, it has had unintended consequences, which we must now address.”WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG
― My Large Grandpa Says This Plugin Is Gorgeous! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 15 November 2024 07:35 (eleven months ago)
how will we tell if the economy crashes?
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 November 2024 07:43 (eleven months ago)
Given what might happen with the US economy there'll be more of this nonsense.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 15 November 2024 09:06 (eleven months ago)
did they not just see what happened in america to the centre left party that ignored working class people or
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 November 2024 09:12 (eleven months ago)
tbf labour were over there welcoming the dems’ efforts to ignore working class people and encouraging them to go further
― My Large Grandpa Says This Plugin Is Gorgeous! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 15 November 2024 09:42 (eleven months ago)
When I heard them using “we have more in common…” I knew Noonoo Labour had been consulted. If they went with oh, I don’t know, ONE AMERICA (after the DFL’s One Minnesota) or FOR THE MANY (2017) they might’ve had better luck. I am sure the former strategy was suggested.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 15 November 2024 11:03 (eleven months ago)
It's as condescendingly vacuous a political slogan as "don't be angry, be nice" or some shit like that. I fucking hate it and always have done. Especially when MiC sponsor so many shite events in an area with so much poverty. People who depend on foodbanks, live in fuel poverty, can't afford essential basics like new clothing or white goods. Listen lads, the word is, despite you living in an endless monthly of poverty and despair - this will cheer you up - wE'vE aLl got MoRe iN CoMmon!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 15 November 2024 17:45 (eleven months ago)
of course nothing will come of it but i'm enjoying the public dissection of Rachel Reeves's fake CV
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2024 07:47 (eleven months ago)
yes, it's v funny. When you type the chancellor's name on GS and "CV" comes above "budget" then, lol, this hasn't gone away yet. I feel like the book she published that was a mix of c+p'ed wiki entries and shameless plagiarism should have got this much attention. That also revealed what kind of a bullshit operator she is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 19 November 2024 08:20 (eleven months ago)
i sometimes think that the current government's superpower is being so weirdly repulsive that you can't listen to them for more than a minute. I definitely feel that SKSKCs voice has gotten worse and reeves is excruciating to listen to. its challenging to pay enough attention to them to have an opinion beyond this. streeting is also in this category.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 19 November 2024 15:35 (eleven months ago)
JUST ANNOUNCED: A Scottish Labour Government will reinstate the Winter Fuel Payment. pic.twitter.com/4UzfnThB8P— Anas Sarwar (@AnasSarwar) November 19, 2024
I can't even process or describe the interlocking levels of cynicism in this, and I'd love to know if anyone believes it or what they feel it says about the government if it can even be true
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 19 November 2024 16:12 (eleven months ago)
the man’s clearly been radicalised by seeing the positive impact of his family business finally paying their workers the living wage
― My Large Grandpa Says This Plugin Is Gorgeous! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 19 November 2024 16:20 (eleven months ago)
Found a leftwing defence of farmers.
https://theconversation.com/farm-inheritance-tax-farmers-cannot-go-green-if-they-are-in-the-red-243527
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 November 2024 09:10 (eleven months ago)
Well now.
I have sent a letter of complaint this week to the Electoral Commission and Redbridge electoral services outlining serious irregularities on the night of the count on July 5th in Ilford North, raising questions regarding compliance with electoral law and guidance. I have retained…— Leanne Mohamad (@LeanneMohamad) November 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 November 2024 20:22 (eleven months ago)
Ashworth will be demanding an investigation into why they couldn't rig his seat as well as this fucking prick's seat!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 22 November 2024 20:39 (eleven months ago)
If Pontypridd was an economically important financial centre you'd think something would be done about it. As it is we'll keep letting it flood.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 November 2024 14:15 (eleven months ago)
think we've established by now it's not the job of government to worry about the safety or economic wellbeing of the public
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 November 2024 14:56 (eleven months ago)
I know we all predicted it but it’s really funny how fast the government has gone from landslide to widely regarded as absolute shit almost before the Tories cleared their stuff out
― gyac, Sunday, 24 November 2024 14:58 (eleven months ago)
their vote share at the GE was so marginal that they've only had to alienate a small percentage of the people that voted for them out of hope more than optimism to get to this stage. it's very bleak for the future tbh.
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 November 2024 15:02 (eleven months ago)
Extremely bleak given Reform polling, yeah
― gyac, Sunday, 24 November 2024 15:06 (eleven months ago)
not so much sleepwalking towards fascism as blithely shepherding people towards it because they don't care, they'll be fine
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 November 2024 15:08 (eleven months ago)
4 years, 9 months (max) 'til PM Farage.
― stirmonster, Sunday, 24 November 2024 15:52 (eleven months ago)
What the fuck are any of us paying our taxes for if not stuff like this
A government minister takes to TV to publicise a GoFundMe appeal raising money to help families devastated by the floods. pic.twitter.com/YsNbr8QVOu— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) November 25, 2024
― gyac, Monday, 25 November 2024 11:25 (eleven months ago)
it's okay blackrock will get our money for carbon capture....profit + flooded towns $$$$
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 25 November 2024 11:58 (eleven months ago)
I think it will go higher.
Non-European migrants now account for 86% of all immigration into Britain.Think about that.— Matt Goodwin (@GoodwinMJ) November 28, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 November 2024 14:41 (eleven months ago)
Wonderful news. Fuck the Labour response to this ofc.
― nashwan, Thursday, 28 November 2024 14:52 (eleven months ago)
I work with international students in London and there are almost none from the EU.
― bad love's all you'll get from me (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 28 November 2024 14:54 (eleven months ago)
Yep, you’ll get some at a few elite universities but if you can study in English for free, or a negligible amount, in Germany, the Netherlands or Sweden and have a guaranteed pathway to post-work employment in the same country, why would you bother coming here?
― ShariVari, Thursday, 28 November 2024 15:26 (eleven months ago)
Starmer says today's ONS figures show Tories were running an 'open borders experiment' by designKeir Starmer says the figures from the ONS today show the last government were running “an open borders experiment”.He makes the point, made by a Labour spokesperson earlier (see 11.25am), about how the figures show net migration going up four times under the Tories.This wasn’t just bad luck, he says.He claims this happened by design. It was an experiment to turn Britain into a country with open borders.And now the Tories want to wave this away with a simple “we got it wrong”.That is unforgiveable, he says.
― My Large Grandpa Says This Plugin Is Gorgeous! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 November 2024 15:38 (eleven months ago)
Brexit strikes again.
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 November 2024 15:38 (eleven months ago)
Pathetic all round.
Chris Mason says the UK appears to have become "addicted" to immigration despite people for years indicating they want immigration numbers to fall.
Why should people believe that Starmer will do this, after previous prime ministers haven't achieved it, he asks.
Starmer says today's migration figures are "really stark" and should "shock all of us".
He says policy under the previous Conservative government has driven up immigration to "record levels", adding that the problem is the "way the economy works".
― nashwan, Thursday, 28 November 2024 15:39 (eleven months ago)
Are all Masons stupid?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 November 2024 15:48 (eleven months ago)
... and worthless? It would appear so.
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 November 2024 15:58 (eleven months ago)
exploitation - it's coming home
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 November 2024 16:20 (eleven months ago)
> Non-European migrants now account for 86% of all immigration into Britain.
is that just because they've tanked the eu migrant numbers?
― koogs, Thursday, 28 November 2024 16:52 (eleven months ago)
i don’t think so - i think net migration is way up
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 November 2024 16:53 (eleven months ago)
oh, i could've just scrolled down
― koogs, Thursday, 28 November 2024 16:55 (eleven months ago)
some good charts here - https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 November 2024 16:56 (eleven months ago)
turns out it's both, total has doubled, eu has halved (roughly)
― koogs, Thursday, 28 November 2024 16:57 (eleven months ago)
Leader of the Labour Party using fascist conspiracy rhetoric, huge victory for getting the Tories out
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 November 2024 17:05 (eleven months ago)
Libs thinking this to be clever, audacious messaging
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 November 2024 17:40 (eleven months ago)
just venting here so dont mind me, but we pioneered the trashing of the planet and plundered the wealth and resources of many nations, we've tortured, killed and enslaved other peoples in their millions and imposed our precious english culture on half the globe, if people want to come to this hideous shithole then its the least we can fucking do
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 28 November 2024 18:12 (eleven months ago)
when I am discussing this with people I have to bite my tongue and not say that I think the country deserves to be asset stripped by all the people we have done the same to over the years, because it isn't the best persuasion tactic but also they are not here to do that anyway. but the truth is we do deserve it.
― bad love's all you'll get from me (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 28 November 2024 18:15 (eleven months ago)
just want to apologise about my post - i shouldnt have used the past tense
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 28 November 2024 18:17 (eleven months ago)
The foul rw rhetoric reveals who Starmer always was, and it must have been an enormous strain on him to pretend to be an entirely different political creature from 2017 to 2020. But let's highlight Starmer's other main character feature: lying. His framing of this is simply another way to avoid engaging with the public on economic realities, in terms of why immigration happens in Western neoliberal economies, and what it would take to change that. Forgive me, but there's a post on the labouruk sub by Sophie_Blitz_123 which I couldn't put better:
We had an actually open border with the EU to start with. The idea that liberalised immigration rules constitutes a one nation open borders experiment while an actual one continent open borders experiment does not really begs the question "what do you think open borders means".
Immigration is where it is because that's where the needs of the country are. The Tories didn't let immigration increase because they just really wanted to move towards open borders. They were largely eased to bring in more workers for public services and industries that needed them. Now, you can make an argument that that's wrong and we should be more self sufficient but it's nonetheless true.
Starmer will run into the exact same issue as the Tories, he's promised lower immigration, but all of his targets in regards to schools, the NHS, housing and any construction, etc will depend on work visas, they will probably have to go up to meet the targets, and bringing them down makes it a dead end.
There's multiple things Starmer could do to bring down migration without huge consequences, but all of them require government money being put into things that are definitely not in the budget.
My point is, no matter how you feel about immigration as a concept, I'm so tired of the truth just not mattering or being perceived as important. The Tory v Labour slanging matches where they just shout "no u" at each other are doing extreme damage to our ability to actually discuss policy.
And most of all its just sparking flames in the general public. We can't keep having governments tell everyone problems are caused by immigration, promise to lower it, and then not do that. Its insane how toxified all of this is.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 28 November 2024 18:28 (eleven months ago)
get sophieblitz123 onto ilx pronto, she is otm
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 November 2024 18:39 (eleven months ago)
No one does it quite like Britain's right wing press pic.twitter.com/O8AidhHk84— Luke Savage (@LukewSavage) November 28, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 November 2024 21:24 (eleven months ago)
hey it's not like the building and maintenance of 12th century castles was entirely funded by taxation now was it?
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 28 November 2024 21:32 (eleven months ago)
call that a fucking castle? demolish it!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 28 November 2024 21:39 (eleven months ago)
I swear I saw that pile on one of those "twat takes on refurbishment of a historic home and fucks it up" TV shows a few years back.
Anyway, this absurd Louise Haigh resignation drama seems like a) a deliberate attempt to lower the bar for ministerial transgression, or b) an incompetent shitshow. Sends out a positive message to victims of street violence anyway, esp. if they're women.
― spiral galaxy 0800 505050 (Matt #2), Friday, 29 November 2024 10:14 (eleven months ago)
Someone has obviously been sitting on this for a while, though unclear whether that was McSweeney.
The Guardian account of what she’s meant to have done is pretty nonsensical. It seems likely she filed a false report to get an upgraded phone, Aviva worked that out and reported her to the police but you’d assume that was known to Starmer when he appointed her, if the case was disclosed as claimed.
― ShariVari, Friday, 29 November 2024 10:59 (eleven months ago)
Former Corbyn supporter I believe?
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Friday, 29 November 2024 11:24 (eleven months ago)
Yep.
― ShariVari, Friday, 29 November 2024 11:27 (eleven months ago)
How unbelievably petty.
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 29 November 2024 11:38 (eleven months ago)
Sacked for offending cruises.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 November 2024 12:14 (eleven months ago)
you've got to mind your P's and O's if want to survive in the Kieth Staliner cabinet. I've got zero sympathy for anyone still willing to work with this cunt tbh. Couldn't care less if he does Ed in next.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 November 2024 13:40 (eleven months ago)
Ed Miliband convinced SKSKC to stand for Parliament in the first place, so if that ever happened all hell would break loose and I would be here for it.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 29 November 2024 13:45 (eleven months ago)
can't say i have been following it too closely, but the discourse around the assisted dying vote seems deranged. as if the uk is the first country to ever have dared to consider this. is the refusal to acknowledge at applications elsewhere in the world just good old british exceptionalism?
― devvvine, Friday, 29 November 2024 13:55 (eleven months ago)
also some possibly tory guy talking about voting against it with the rationale that he was concerned about "protecting the most vulnerable members of society", of all the fucking gall - never been interested in helping those people to live with any sort of dignity, not surprised youre not interested in helping to die with it either
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 29 November 2024 14:01 (eleven months ago)
hat tip to the BBC for immediately asking for comment from MP Andrew Slaughter
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 29 November 2024 14:40 (eleven months ago)
based on vibes I was assuming this would fail, good to see basic common sense prevail
― devvvine, Friday, 29 November 2024 14:44 (eleven months ago)
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 29 November 2024 13:45 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
doubt, tbh. McSweeney is running things now, and the reaction to Ed getting recycled will just be a collective shrug
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 29 November 2024 14:53 (eleven months ago)
McSweeney is going to cross a line at some point and get shanked.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 29 November 2024 14:56 (eleven months ago)
was reading some McSweeney discussion earlier, which can be summarised as he's a 3rd rate DomCum without the wacky opinions. Because he's calculated having opinions can be a vulnerability. In short just a worthless, evil prick and not even an entertaining one.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 November 2024 15:14 (eleven months ago)
Afaict the opposition to assisted dying is split pretty strongly between two factions:- Leftist reasoning: “The government already commits social murder through underfunding healthcare, services for the poor etc so this will be more of the state opening a door it shouldn’t open. Also, it opens the way for people with disabilities/who are in care etc to feel pressured to take this route out to relieve the burden of responsibility on their families, especially given the dogshit state support for people who need it.”Religious reasoning: “It’s immoral for a doctor to give you an injection to hasten the end, God would want you to waste away in pain in a crowded hospital trolley or slowly due to government funding cuts like He intended.”
― gyac, Friday, 29 November 2024 15:15 (eleven months ago)
Here’s the complete list of votes:https://votes.parliament.uk/divisions/downloadtext/1877?house=Commons
― gyac, Friday, 29 November 2024 15:19 (eleven months ago)
Jez voted against for the leftist reasons upthread. If I were an MP my vote would possibly have gone against, because elder abuse is something that has happened in my own family and even one case of this under this new law is one case too many.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 29 November 2024 15:20 (eleven months ago)
Actually fuck it, it’s just the Nos/abstentions we’re interested ininSaying NONoes==========Jack Abbott (Labour - Ipswich)Diane Abbott (Labour - Hackney North and Stoke Newington) (Proxy vote cast by Bell Ribeiro-Addy)Shockat Adam (Independent - Leicester South)Zubir Ahmed (Labour - Glasgow South West)Bayo Alaba (Labour - Southend East and Rochford)Rushanara Ali (Labour - Bethnal Green and Stepney)Tahir Ali (Labour - Birmingham Hall Green and Moseley)Rosena Allin-Khan (Labour - Tooting)Jim Allister (Traditional Unionist Voice - North Antrim)Mike Amesbury (Independent - Runcorn and Helsby) (Proxy vote cast by Chris Elmore)Gideon Amos (Liberal Democrat - Taunton and Wellington)Fleur Anderson (Labour - Putney)Stuart Anderson (Conservative - South Shropshire)Stuart Andrew (Conservative - Daventry)Edward Argar (Conservative - Melton and Syston)Scott Arthur (Labour - Edinburgh South West)Jess Asato (Labour - Lowestoft)James Asser (Labour - West Ham and Beckton)Catherine Atkinson (Labour - Derby North)Gareth Bacon (Conservative - Orpington)Kemi Badenoch (Conservative - North West Essex)Olivia Bailey (Labour - Reading West and Mid Berkshire)David Baines (Labour - St Helens North)Alex Baker (Labour - Aldershot)Richard Baker (Labour - Glenrothes and Mid Fife)Antonia Bance (Labour - Tipton and Wednesbury)Steve Barclay (Conservative - North East Cambridgeshire)Johanna Baxter (Labour - Paisley and Renfrewshire South)Apsana Begum (Independent - Poplar and Limehouse)Saqib Bhatti (Conservative - Meriden and Solihull East)Polly Billington (Labour - East Thanet)Bob Blackman (Conservative - Harrow East)Elsie Blundell (Labour - Heywood and Middleton North) (Proxy vote cast by Chris Elmore)Sarah Bool (Conservative - South Northamptonshire)Andrew Bowie (Conservative - West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine)Sureena Brackenridge (Labour - Wolverhampton North East)Karen Bradley (Conservative - Staffordshire Moorlands)Suella Braverman (Conservative - Fareham and Waterlooville)Alex Burghart (Conservative - Brentwood and Ongar)Richard Burgon (Independent - Leeds East)Dawn Butler (Labour - Brent East)Ian Byrne (Independent - Liverpool West Derby)Liam Byrne (Labour - Birmingham Hodge Hill and Solihull North)Nesil Caliskan (Labour - Barking)Juliet Campbell (Labour - Broxtowe)Gregory Campbell (Democratic Unionist Party - East Londonderry)Christopher Chope (Conservative - Christchurch)Feryal Clark (Labour - Enfield North)James Cleverly (Conservative - Braintree)Lewis Cocking (Conservative - Broxbourne)Ben Coleman (Labour - Chelsea and Fulham)Tom Collins (Labour - Worcester)Liam Conlon (Labour - Beckenham and Penge)John Cooper (Conservative - Dumfries and Galloway)Jeremy Corbyn (Independent - Islington North)Alberto Costa (Conservative - South Leicestershire)Claire Coutinho (Conservative - East Surrey)Geoffrey Cox (Conservative - Torridge and Tavistock)Neil Coyle (Labour - Bermondsey and Old Southwark)Jen Craft (Labour - Thurrock)Mary Creagh (Labour - Coventry East)Torcuil Crichton (Labour - Na h-Eileanan an Iar)Harriet Cross (Conservative - Gordon and Buchan)Ashley Dalton (Labour - West Lancashire)Ed Davey (Liberal Democrat - Kingston and Surbiton)Ann Davies (Plaid Cymru - Caerfyrddin)Gareth Davies (Conservative - Grantham and Bourne)Jonathan Davies (Labour - Mid Derbyshire)Mims Davies (Conservative - East Grinstead and Uckfield)Marsha De Cordova (Labour - Battersea)Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi (Labour - Slough)Anna Dixon (Labour - Shipley)Anneliese Dodds (Labour - Oxford East)Stephen Doughty (Labour - Cardiff South and Penarth)Rosie Duffield (Independent - Canterbury)Iain Duncan Smith (Conservative - Chingford and Woodford Green)Alex Easton (Independent - North Down)Sorcha Eastwood (Alliance - Lagan Valley)Maya Ellis (Labour - Ribble Valley)Chris Evans (Labour - Caerphilly)Nigel Farage (Reform UK - Clacton)Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat - Westmorland and Lonsdale)Patricia Ferguson (Labour - Glasgow West)Peter Fortune (Conservative - Bromley and Biggin Hill)Vicky Foxcroft (Labour - Lewisham North)Mary Kelly Foy (Labour - City of Durham)Daniel Francis (Labour - Bexleyheath and Crayford)Mark Francois (Conservative - Rayleigh and Wickford)Louie French (Conservative - Old Bexley and Sidcup)James Frith (Labour - Bury North)Richard Fuller (Conservative - North Bedfordshire)Gill Furniss (Labour - Sheffield Brightside and Hillsborough)Roger Gale (Conservative - Herne Bay and Sandwich)Barry Gardiner (Labour - Brent West)Allison Gardner (Labour - Stoke-on-Trent South)Preet Kaur Gill (Labour - Birmingham Edgbaston)John Glen (Conservative - Salisbury)Mary Glindon (Labour - Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend)Ben Goldsborough (Labour - South Norfolk)John Grady (Labour - Glasgow East)Helen Grant (Conservative - Maidstone and Malling)Andrew Griffith (Conservative - Arundel and South Downs)Nia Griffith (Labour - Llanelli)Alison Griffiths (Conservative - Bognor Regis and Littlehampton)Paulette Hamilton (Labour - Birmingham Erdington)Monica Harding (Liberal Democrat - Esher and Walton)Emma Hardy (Labour - Kingston upon Hull West and Haltemprice)Rebecca Harris (Conservative - Castle Point)Helen Hayes (Labour - Dulwich and West Norwood)John Hayes (Conservative - South Holland and The Deepings)Mark Hendrick (Labour - Preston)Meg Hillier (Labour - Hackney South and Shoreditch)Damian Hinds (Conservative - East Hampshire)Simon Hoare (Conservative - North Dorset)Richard Holden (Conservative - Basildon and Billericay)Paul Holmes (Conservative - Hamble Valley)Nigel Huddleston (Conservative - Droitwich and Evesham)Neil Hudson (Conservative - Epping Forest)Rupa Huq (Labour - Ealing Central and Acton)Patrick Hurley (Labour - Southport)Imran Hussain (Independent - Bradford East)Adnan Hussain (Independent - Blackburn)Sally Jameson (Labour - Doncaster Central)Bernard Jenkin (Conservative - Harwich and North Essex)Robert Jenrick (Conservative - Newark)Adam Jogee (Labour - Newcastle-under-Lyme)Caroline Johnson (Conservative - Sleaford and North Hykeham)Darren Jones (Labour - Bristol North West)Lillian Jones (Labour - Kilmarnock and Loudoun)Ruth Jones (Labour - Newport West and Islwyn)Lincoln Jopp (Conservative - Spelthorne)Gurinder Singh Josan (Labour - Smethwick)Sojan Joseph (Labour - Ashford)Mike Kane (Labour - Wythenshawe and Sale East)Satvir Kaur (Labour - Southampton Test)Ayoub Khan (Independent - Birmingham Perry Barr)Naushabah Khan (Labour - Gillingham and Rainham)Paul Kohler (Liberal Democrat - Wimbledon)Danny Kruger (Conservative - East Wiltshire)Uma Kumaran (Labour - Stratford and Bow)Katie Lam (Conservative - Weald of Kent)David Lammy (Labour - Tottenham)John Lamont (Conservative - Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk)Ian Lavery (Labour - Blyth and Ashington)Edward Leigh (Conservative - Gainsborough)Brian Leishman (Labour - Alloa and Grangemouth)Emma Lewell-Buck (Labour - South Shields)Julian Lewis (Conservative - New Forest East)Carla Lockhart (Democratic Unionist Party - Upper Bann)Rebecca Long Bailey (Independent - Salford)Julia Lopez (Conservative - Hornchurch and Upminster)Angus MacDonald (Liberal Democrat - Inverness, Skye and West Ross-shire)Justin Madders (Labour - Ellesmere Port and Bromborough)Shabana Mahmood (Labour - Birmingham Ladywood)Alan Mak (Conservative - Havant)Seema Malhotra (Labour - Feltham and Heston)Rachael Maskell (Labour - York Central)Jerome Mayhew (Conservative - Broadland and Fakenham)Douglas McAllister (Labour - West Dunbartonshire)Martin McCluskey (Labour - Inverclyde and Renfrewshire West)Siobhain McDonagh (Labour - Mitcham and Morden)Andy McDonald (Labour - Middlesbrough and Thornaby East)Chris McDonald (Labour - Stockton North)Blair McDougall (Labour - East Renfrewshire)Lola McEvoy (Labour - Darlington)Alex McIntyre (Labour - Gloucester)Gordon McKee (Labour - Glasgow South)Catherine McKinnell (Labour - Newcastle upon Tyne North)Jim McMahon (Labour - Oldham West, Chadderton and Royton)James McMurdock (Reform UK - South Basildon and East Thurrock)Frank McNally (Labour - Coatbridge and Bellshill)Esther McVey (Conservative - Tatton)Anneliese Midgley (Labour - Knowsley)Calum Miller (Liberal Democrat - Bicester and Woodstock)Julie Minns (Labour - Carlisle)Abtisam Mohamed (Labour - Sheffield Central)Iqbal Mohamed (Independent - Dewsbury and Batley)Gagan Mohindra (Conservative - South West Hertfordshire)Robbie Moore (Conservative - Keighley and Ilkley)Grahame Morris (Labour - Easington)Tom Morrison (Liberal Democrat - Cheadle)Joy Morrissey (Conservative - Beaconsfield)Wendy Morton (Conservative - Aldridge-Brownhills)Kieran Mullan (Conservative - Bexhill and Battle)Margaret Mullane (Labour - Dagenham and Rainham)David Mundell (Conservative - Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale)Katrina Murray (Labour - Cumbernauld and Kirkintilloch)Andrew Murrison (Conservative - South West Wiltshire)James Naish (Labour - Rushcliffe)Josh Newbury (Labour - Cannock Chase)Jesse Norman (Conservative - Hereford and South Herefordshire)Neil O'Brien (Conservative - Harborough, Oadby and Wigston)Ben Obese-Jecty (Conservative - Huntingdon)Sarah Olney (Liberal Democrat - Richmond Park)Chi Onwurah (Labour - Newcastle upon Tyne Central and West)Abena Oppong-Asare (Labour - Erith and Thamesmead)Kate Osamor (Labour - Edmonton and Winchmore Hill)Taiwo Owatemi (Labour - Coventry North West)Darren Paffey (Labour - Southampton Itchen)Andrew Pakes (Labour - Peterborough)Priti Patel (Conservative - Witham)Matthew Patrick (Labour - Wirral West)Rebecca Paul (Conservative - Reigate)Stephanie Peacock (Labour - Barnsley South)Bridget Phillipson (Labour - Houghton and Sunderland South)David Pinto-Duschinsky (Labour - Hendon)Mark Pritchard (Conservative - The Wrekin)Richard Quigley (Labour - Isle of Wight West)Yasmin Qureshi (Labour - Bolton South and Walkden)Shivani Raja (Conservative - Leicester East)Jack Rankin (Conservative - Windsor)Angela Rayner (Labour - Ashton-under-Lyne)Mike Reader (Labour - Northampton South)David Reed (Conservative - Exmouth and Exeter East)Jonathan Reynolds (Labour - Stalybridge and Hyde)Martin Rhodes (Labour - Glasgow North)Bell Ribeiro-Addy (Labour - Clapham and Brixton Hill)Marie Rimmer (Labour - St Helens South and Whiston)Joe Robertson (Conservative - Isle of Wight East)Gavin Robinson (Democratic Unionist Party - Belfast East)Matt Rodda (Labour - 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Romsey and Southampton North)Brendan O'Hara (Scottish National Party - Argyll, Bute and South Lochaber)Ellie Reeves (Labour - Lewisham West and East Dulwich)Cat Smith (Labour - Lancaster and Wyre)Nick Smith (Labour - Blaenau Gwent and Rhymney)Alex Sobel (Labour - Leeds Central and Headingley)Gareth Thomas (Labour - Harrow West)Jessica Toale (Labour - Bournemouth West)Pete Wishart (Scottish National Party - Perth and Kinross-shire)MIKE WOOD (Conservative) - my phone refused to copy his name from the bottom of the list
― gyac, Friday, 29 November 2024 15:23 (eleven months ago)
I'd hypothetically vote against because most of the scumbag UK political classes could find some way of accommodating a T4 program to eradicate all the useless eaters, I have no doubt about this. I had to send a very sad final goodbye text to a family member (while he still has the energy to read messages) who has gone home to die the other day, which also weighing on my thinking on this in some way, but not enough to sway me.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 November 2024 15:27 (eleven months ago)
Heidi Alexander’s appointment as transport secretary means the cabinet is now 100% state-educated for the first time in history - great stat from @georgeeaton— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) November 29, 2024
lol, just when I thought life couldn't get any better!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 November 2024 15:54 (eleven months ago)
It’s really the best argument I’d have to vote against but in the end I think I would vote for. I think it would have to have adequate safeguards - no hospital in the country wants to be open to legal action otherwise. I saw a lot of tweets about DNR orders which are…At odds with how that works in my understanding; resuscitation is a brutal process on the body and can actually cause enormous damage to someone who survives it, but I’m not sure how informed some people are of what that actually means.
― gyac, Friday, 29 November 2024 15:55 (eleven months ago)
Angela Rayner voted against I see. McSweeney must be itching to get rid of her.
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Friday, 29 November 2024 15:57 (eleven months ago)
He can’t - deputy leader is elected.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 29 November 2024 17:12 (eleven months ago)
Where there's a will there's a way.
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Friday, 29 November 2024 17:51 (eleven months ago)
re: that bollox about this impressively representative Labour cabinet all coming from state schools for the first time in UK history. Kieth went to a posh as fuck selective state school that turned into a private school 2 years into his education there. Some of the worst imbeciles in Labour Party history went to state schools. Ladies and gents, I give you Wes Streeting ... and so on and on... that is starting at rock bottom though.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 November 2024 19:50 (eleven months ago)
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Friday, 29 November 2024 17:51 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Officially it was ex-Tory chairman "Lord" Ashcroft who broke that story about her council house, but I wonder who he got it from?
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 29 November 2024 20:52 (eleven months ago)
And already on the BBC they are discussing the potential cost savings for the NHS https://t.co/zZg40g1jgS— Ian Birrell (@ianbirrell) November 29, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 29 November 2024 20:56 (eleven months ago)
these sick fucks murdered 150000+ disabled people during the PIP reform chaos and even peer reviewed establishment journal BMJ referred to this, without any hyperbole, as "corporate manslaughter", but of course the safeguards, yes the safeguards ... lol
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 November 2024 21:53 (eleven months ago)
Kim Shitbeater, remember the name.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 November 2024 22:16 (eleven months ago)
Jfc
Passed without any appropriate scrutiny, by a government about to scrap the already minimal support for unemployed disabled people
I wdve been all in favour of this kind of legislation in a world without a government dead set on exterminating the poor and superfluous
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 November 2024 09:22 (eleven months ago)
The media is getting very excited at the thought of killing the poor and infirm
Having supported the principle of assisted dying so long as can be recalled, it has been quite a ride watching neoliberals apparently embrace it as the solution to any number of social and economic problems caused by their ideology.The principle is sound, the culture is toxic. pic.twitter.com/izY5NQRSOL— barney farmer (@barneyfarmer) March 30, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 30 November 2024 10:05 (eleven months ago)
well at least Parris is being more upfront about the eventual aims of this policy, unlike that idiotic, blathering con-merchant, Kim Shitbeater
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 November 2024 10:26 (eleven months ago)
Parris is genuinely one of the most repulsive figures thrown up by UK politics/media in my lifetime. He is vile.
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 November 2024 10:30 (eleven months ago)
just imagine signing off on that headline underneath your smiling face, the sociopathy of it
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 30 November 2024 10:32 (eleven months ago)
I'd imagine his main quibble with the nazis is that they held back the progression of eugenics and disabled extermination programs for decades by association with their name, until now it seems.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 November 2024 10:41 (eleven months ago)
A friend darkly mused that the UK will be moving towards a one grandparent policy.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 30 November 2024 11:08 (eleven months ago)
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― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 30 November 2024 11:10 (eleven months ago)
Do think this bill will unravel fast if there is even a hint its killing ppl.
*Stares out of the window* maybe not..
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 November 2024 11:18 (eleven months ago)
Interesting case to contemplate.
thinking about someone i knew who was sent home to die by the NHS with terminal cancer, then went for private treatment and their tumour was gone within months. FUND THE NHS and give people a fucking chance to live before deciding their time is up— sarah 🚩 (@ratherbeinpisa) November 29, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 November 2024 12:30 (eleven months ago)
Because my take would be: whether assisted dying is there or not ppl are still not going to get the care they need as long as the NHS is not adequately funded..
But the case in that tweet itself sounds like misdiagnosis of that person's condition. While I accept there are delays in diagnosis and treatments, leading to premature death, I don't know if a better funded NHS leads to a different outcome in this case.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 November 2024 12:35 (eleven months ago)
again, in principle i think the right to die is an important one and the fact that it exists in other european nations with strong safeguards and without issue shows it can be done. but those opinion pieces do i guess back up the arguments against which all seem to boil down to 'british people in particular can't be trusted with euthanasia'
― devvvine, Saturday, 30 November 2024 12:49 (eleven months ago)
Given that there's basically no socialist bloc in the UK parliament and not likely to be one in the foreseeable future the situation is different to countries that aren't exclusively Friedmanite death cults yeah
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 November 2024 12:53 (eleven months ago)
Dunno about there being socialist blocs in the patliament of, say, Switzerland, Luxembourg or Germany. They just havde more robust welfare states.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 30 November 2024 12:57 (eleven months ago)
I guess I was using socialist in a very loose sense, considered "social democratic" but fuck that phrase, and yeah, point taken
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:00 (eleven months ago)
it's just impossible for me to imagine any other path for this policy other than it morphing into an ever expanding UK extermination program. Not meant as hyperbolic rhetoric, just genuinely cannot picture it going any other way in this country.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:13 (eleven months ago)
We're what? less than 5 years away from the do not resuscitate orders inflicted on disabled people in care during the covid crisis?
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:16 (eleven months ago)
As far as ‘slippery slopes’ go, I’m not sure ‘bodily autonomy can not be meaningfully exercised under conditions of inequality, so we need to limit it’ is one we necessarily want to introduce.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:25 (eleven months ago)
I believe in the right to bodily autonomy, I don't believe it can exist in a fundamentally unequal society, so i find it hard to view this bill as an extension of human rights
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:33 (eleven months ago)
do people have an issue with the specific nature of the safeguards in the bill (are they lacking in some area?) or is the issue just that the uk is so shit it seems impossible for them not to maximally fuck it up
― ufo, Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:38 (eleven months ago)
A lot of the UK's social institutions are infected with unempathetic authoritarianism. I think in the end it's a good thing to legalise assisted suicide, but I'm also sure it will be used to coerce people who aren't really able to give proper consent
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:43 (eleven months ago)
in a vacuum I'm in favour, in the current environment of cruel austerity it's definitely a bad idea.
― bad love's all you'll get from me (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:47 (eleven months ago)
ufo - its a complete lack of confidence that this can be implemented as an extension of human rights, but I've not seen any debates about the exact safeguards.
Corbyn - in his statement against - has cited concerns around robust safeguards.
In the grand scheme of things I am inclined to agree this is bad just because of the people implementing it. Coupled with any plan for a future for the care system.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 November 2024 13:58 (eleven months ago)
I've not seen any debates about the exact safeguards.
to me that would be the crucial detail. there would seem to be a substantial difference between a version that is strictly controlled with robust safeguards and is only allowed for those who are verified to be terminally ill, and a version that is allowed to be applied more broadly to people who are not terminally ill (which is the version that has had obvious problems occur).
― ufo, Saturday, 30 November 2024 14:31 (eleven months ago)
Agreed.
Seeing some ridiculous things like this. But for me its coming out of a beaten left, with no road to travel but deep pessimism that the worst outcomes can be avoided.
if/when it becomes legalised, expect to see private providers advertising tiered euthanasia services to ill people and to their loved ones— anna (@lacanian_bimbo) November 29, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 November 2024 15:11 (eleven months ago)
when it comes to personal suicide decisions, there is nothing the state can do to stop us doing this, we've all got bodily autonomy in that respect, whether the state likes it or not. Yes it becomes complicated in marriages/civil partnerships/families when someone opts to top themselves and announces thus, and it somehow becomes a dreaded testcase or whatever.
I was talking to my mum about this because she's seen 3 close siblings (including a twin), all die from cancer in as many years, and her youngest brother is about to go from it as well. A lot of death to experience at close hand and she's also a cancer survivor. Her take is: there already is assisted dying in modern healthcare, it's called morphine. She also witnessed her father die, very painfully from it, in a 50's RoI hospital and says that was the most horrible suffering she ever witnessed.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 November 2024 19:04 (eleven months ago)
I think the point that assisted dying is kind of already there vía the doctrine of double effect, but has to be framed as ‘pain relief’, is down to an individual doctor or family member and may or may not get them arrested is true and a pretty good reason to have a proper process in place.
thankfully there's no eugenic element or questions of coercion in a decades-long legal grey area where you and/or a doctor may or may not be prosecuted for helping, or "helping", a relative to die at home— Horace Goodwill, tonicke purveyor 🇵🇸 (@eff_hey) November 30, 2024
― ShariVari, Saturday, 30 November 2024 19:28 (eleven months ago)
when it comes to personal suicide decisions, there is nothing the state can do to stop us doing this, we've all got bodily autonomy in that respect, whether the state likes it or not.
Well, not so much if you're hospitalised.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 30 November 2024 19:29 (eleven months ago)
yes, some shocking ableism from me there tbf and some fair points. Yet still, I will never agree with this wretched country having legalised assisted dying. For starters, I know for a fact, that after I am gone there is a strong chance my mostly non-verbal and very difficult to communicate with autistic son will be one of the first to be exterminated by the state. As soon as he develops any kind of serious health condition and goes into whatever is left of the health service or social care. I'm never going to shift on this position.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 November 2024 19:58 (eleven months ago)
when you look back at what has happened to UK disabled people in the last 14 years. Any talk of "safeguards" is just laughable or naive at best.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 November 2024 20:06 (eleven months ago)
they already have de facto autism extermination zones in these dreaded NHS units, where patients can be stuck for months. Often tied to beds and drugged if the challenging behaviour is rather too challenging. This is just to make up for not having a serious social care system. And people do die.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 November 2024 20:33 (eleven months ago)
you were the victim of badly losing an election pic.twitter.com/hJU63pMgci— Ben Smoke (@bencsmoke) December 3, 2024
heh, check out this loser. It was paywalled, unfortunately. I did want learn more about disinformation.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 3 December 2024 13:31 (eleven months ago)
LOL he was a terrible candidate, judging by the amount of effort Islington Labour Party put into his campaign I'd say even they cottoned on to that fact very early on.
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 December 2024 13:51 (eleven months ago)
(1)Praful Nargund, the Blairite private health businessman who lost to Corbyn has set up a "Good Growth Foundation to promote... himself- this is actually from this "Foundation's" front page. It's a ridiculous vanity project . pic.twitter.com/Z6wWH1sn7P— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) December 3, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 3 December 2024 14:34 (eleven months ago)
Its all 'disinformation' when I lose too, my sympathies go to *scrolls up to read tweet again* Praful.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 December 2024 14:48 (eleven months ago)
just had to sit through a job centre group training session on interview skills and the guy just grifted about AI, chatgpt and grindset bullshit the whole time… i can’t believe government money is being spent like this— seosamh 🇵🇸 (@dayglowj0e) December 3, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 December 2024 15:55 (eleven months ago)
I can believe govt cash is being burnt like this
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 December 2024 15:56 (eleven months ago)
Labour parking it's tanks on the Conservatives' Reform's the BNP's lawn
WATCH: Kemi Badenoch was one of the leading lobbyists for the Tories’ open borders experiment. pic.twitter.com/IzV51ssofv— The Labour Party (@UKLabour) December 4, 2024
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 4 December 2024 20:13 (eleven months ago)
I'm gently impressed they're tapping into deeper veins of evil than I wdve predicted
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 December 2024 20:14 (eleven months ago)
What.
https://news.stv.tv/east-central/edinburgh-council-leader-suspended-by-labour-after-sexual-messages-to-refugees
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 December 2024 13:45 (eleven months ago)
The clammy hands of Cammy Day.
― if you like this you might like my brothers music. his name is Stu Morr (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 December 2024 14:05 (eleven months ago)
Starmer speaking at RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus: "Quite a bit of what goes on here can't necessarily be talked about all of the time... we can't necessarily tell the world what you're doing"RAF Akrotiri is the base from which the RAF flies missions to assist Israel in its genocide. pic.twitter.com/bUKdhaZulV— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) December 10, 2024
I look forward to the day when this video is played back to Starmer in court one day
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 10 December 2024 11:46 (ten months ago)
at least the real villians are being dealt with eh?
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/dec/11/britain-leads-the-world-in-cracking-down-on-climate-activism-study-finds
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2024 12:10 (ten months ago)
villains even
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2024 12:11 (ten months ago)
WASPI, another amazing bit of politics, another section of the electorate alienated, another chance to get pilloried by everybody who isn't in the cult, and merely to "save" an insignificant figure
pure performative hard man shite yet again
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 17:29 (ten months ago)
They are being pilloried with all their tweets about giving WASPI women their fair dues. Fuck Liz Kendall.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 17:33 (ten months ago)
it's fun to speculate about why they don't care about how they look
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 17:40 (ten months ago)
They think the public wants Cameron/Osbourne politics. In 2024. Their brains haven't moved an inch since 2015
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 18:05 (ten months ago)
the news over the weekend about the record number of deportations wasn't a good look either
― koogs, Wednesday, 18 December 2024 05:27 (ten months ago)
They are not going to stop Reform with this
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 December 2024 07:05 (ten months ago)
it took years and multiple electoral cycles of Macron trying to fuck over pensioners, constantly trying to impose unwanted austerity on the French public without a legitimate mandate, to become as nationally despised and electorally dead-in-the-water as Kieth is after 5 months.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 18 December 2024 09:34 (ten months ago)
Hilarious. Guess they can all work for water companies in five years
Water bills to rise 20% (£86) plus inflation in April and then above inflation for the next four years. @Ofwat gives private water companies in England the go-ahead to make customers pay for the investment they have failed to do for 30 years while enriching shareholders and…— Paul Lewis (@paullewismoney) December 19, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 December 2024 11:30 (ten months ago)
How long will we take this shit?
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 December 2024 14:59 (ten months ago)
good luck USA
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 December 2024 06:31 (ten months ago)
tbf they've picked a UK establishment figure who was just as close to Jeffrey Epstein as president Trump was
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 December 2024 08:54 (ten months ago)
And this week's prize for 'Most Ingenious Way to Blame Jeremy Corbyn for Anything and Everything Under and Beyond the Sun' goes to @helenadollimore. pic.twitter.com/ZRLLRfa9e1— Mark Berry (@boulezian) December 20, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 December 2024 10:21 (ten months ago)
On the same tip just seen the apparently real headline 'We've evicting our 90 year old tenant because of Labour'.
― nashwan, Friday, 20 December 2024 10:29 (ten months ago)
This is, I am assuming, Sussex prof Jonathan Dollimore’s daughter?
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 20 December 2024 10:34 (ten months ago)
The ombudsman is Jeremy Corbyn, Starmer and Rayner are Jeremy Corbyn, various Tories are Jeremy Corbyn
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 20 December 2024 10:41 (ten months ago)
Jeremy Corbyn is head of Thames Water and all other water companies in England and Wales.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 20 December 2024 10:44 (ten months ago)
when the first mad friday casualties are announced, just getting in early it was all Jeremy Corbyn's fault for running with a GE manifesto that didn't make ppl want to to top themselves
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 December 2024 12:13 (ten months ago)
I'm enjoying the new "the problem is promising to do anything" realism
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 December 2024 12:37 (ten months ago)
Starmer will be booted in about three years. There'll be enough damage from Scottish, Welsh and any local elections.
Time to get a nice cup of coffee and look up to see whether Owen Smith is still an MP.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 December 2024 12:40 (ten months ago)
Yes and Corbyn was the problem?
After leaving Parliament, Smith became the UK government relations director for pharmaceutical company Bristol Myers Squibb.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 20 December 2024 12:49 (ten months ago)
peter mandelson appointed ambassador to the united states of america- he and trump can bond over their shared friendship with the late, lamented jeffrey epstein i guess
― Why did the Beatles shun the Space Needle? (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 20 December 2024 18:29 (ten months ago)
Looking forward to the New York Times expose of this "mysterious" British Lord and his many unsavoury connections
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 20 December 2024 18:49 (ten months ago)
if it's ok for Bill Clinton to be a paedo then I guess paedos must be good then
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 December 2024 19:01 (ten months ago)
Labour now hiring an attack and rebuttal expert, have at the fake applications:
https://labour.org.uk/about-us/work-with-us/current-vacancies/current-vacancy-head-of-attack-and-rebuttal/
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 20 December 2024 19:58 (ten months ago)
wait they've got a strategy?
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 December 2024 20:07 (ten months ago)
Only for the important things.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 20 December 2024 20:31 (ten months ago)
get full bennies for doing Labour apologia and lose your soul
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 December 2024 10:22 (ten months ago)
Honestly would have applied if the job had been advertised during the Corbyn years!
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 21 December 2024 11:45 (ten months ago)
under Cromblyns it would've been the headbuttal expert, amirite?
― badder living thru Kemistry (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 December 2024 11:46 (ten months ago)
alphie needs to go deep cover and apply imo
― imago, Saturday, 21 December 2024 11:59 (ten months ago)
if you went into the job with the idea of coming out with the most preposterous, parodic Orwell_Fan shit possible, just rinse these fuckers, and then McSweeney shakes your hand and gives you the pay rise for being so good at this game!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 December 2024 13:01 (ten months ago)
Trump adviser calls Lord Mandelson a 'moron' as he's named UK's next US ambassador
lol, when they're right they are right!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 December 2024 13:33 (ten months ago)
― imago, Saturday, 21 December 2024 bookmarkflaglink
I would be as good as that as you are at writing!
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 December 2024 14:09 (ten months ago)
https://t.co/Wvqe8IPWQI pic.twitter.com/wL8OU4HeeE— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) December 20, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 21 December 2024 14:18 (ten months ago)
amazing
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 21 December 2024 14:20 (ten months ago)
lol, love it!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 December 2024 14:40 (ten months ago)
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 December 2024 04:17 (ten months ago)
Happy Christmas!!
Does that include the Palestinian people suffering genocide and being killed with British-made weapons, David? https://t.co/aAmtzExDtb— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) December 24, 2024
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 24 December 2024 15:54 (ten months ago)
lol, she's going in studs up every day now. JFC what a cunt Lammy looks in that hideous video, honestly Lammy, I hope you have a really shitty Christmas, you wretched genocide apologist, and an even more fucking ghastly new year.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 December 2024 16:41 (ten months ago)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 December 2024 16:41 (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Hard agree; merry Christmas all of us
― plax (ico), Thursday, 26 December 2024 21:21 (ten months ago)
is this still the thread?
Also, am i missing something obvious or is it in fact true that ivor caplin had been posting porn to his twitter feed...?
― plax (ico), Sunday, 12 January 2025 13:54 (nine months ago)
not only is it true but when i looked a couple of hours ago he hasn't taken it down
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 January 2025 13:57 (nine months ago)
This is the thread (I revived a past UK pol thread).
“I take my responsibilities seriously. I did not lie” - UK politics June 23 on
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 12 January 2025 13:58 (nine months ago)
The Ivor Caplin thing sounds crazy but I don't know the full facts.
All I'll say is that its incredible that he was posting like this and no Lab MP told him to rein it in?
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 12 January 2025 14:01 (nine months ago)
Had anyone noticed before this last 24 hours? like there's all these shitpost accounts with crazy .xslx keeping tabs of right-wing labour accounts.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 12 January 2025 14:17 (nine months ago)
Yeah, it's been a while, it seems - back to last October at least. And it's even weirder that it's in between the stuff that you'd expect - thirst, thirst, repost Kier Starmer's Christmas message, dick, actual fucking, "as we relax at this time of year, our thoughts go out to...."
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 12 January 2025 15:29 (nine months ago)
i got very tinfoilhatted and tried to see if they were archived on the wayback machine. They weren't but neither was anything else i checked so it didn't prove anything. It seems that twitter/x stopped being archived around june 2023. There are quite a few thirsty posts if you search back then, but nothing like the frequency and explicitness of the recent ones.
the story is currently only showing up on some papers websites (mail, sun, lbc, mirror, JC.com, the times of india for some reason and brighton and hove news (not sure how legit that is)) while still ignored by telegraph, guardian/observer, times etc afaict....
by coincidence today seems to be the JLM conferences
― plax (ico), Sunday, 12 January 2025 16:53 (nine months ago)
Holy moly, just checked his twitter feed. Feed is the right word on some of the posts!
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 12 January 2025 17:04 (nine months ago)
Gordon Brown ...
Kieth...
Some other Labour MP social media dross...
Brighton & Hove Albion F.C....
A huge fucking erection!!!!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 12 January 2025 17:18 (nine months ago)
I'm guessing he thought he was dm-ing some of these lads on only fans, rather than publicly posting to them. Or maybe he just didn't give a fuck any more at this point?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 12 January 2025 17:21 (nine months ago)
(xp) I remember that episode of Family Fortunes.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 January 2025 17:25 (nine months ago)
at some point he thought "all my retweets are of big cocks, might as well throw some porn in there"
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 January 2025 17:27 (nine months ago)
im very surprised all of this is not front page of every british newspaper atm
― plax (ico), Sunday, 12 January 2025 19:07 (nine months ago)
he get's a pass for being part of the pro-genocide anti-Corbyn alliance. But still I mean .. the gutter press should love this shit!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 12 January 2025 19:14 (nine months ago)
Rach Reeves is now feeling depressed by the limitations of what can be achieved within the neoliberal death grip style governence that she's spent her whole political life campaigning for. I guess it would be acceptable to encourage her to commit suicide at this point now.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 12 January 2025 22:37 (nine months ago)
One min there is no plan for growth, the next they trot out the AI bubble that will burst in the next few years.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/12/why-starmer-and-reeves-are-pinning-hopes-on-ai-to-drive-growth-in-uk
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 12 January 2025 22:59 (nine months ago)
it’s beyond parody. just crazy listening to this shit. “government departments have all been directed to draw up plans to integrate ai into their work”???!!
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 January 2025 06:05 (nine months ago)
As someone working in a department who sees a lot of snake oil being sold around this area and lots of others, this concerns me.
Maybe there are some good uses of AI but in general a lot of the way new technology is used is just to replace people and offer the same or a worse service for less money.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 13 January 2025 07:48 (nine months ago)
these people are dangerously moronic. they're talking about feeding NHS records into the maw of one of these things, for what purpose I have no idea. maybe we'll start getting alerts telling us that we aren't ingesting enough glue.
I had a vague hope that this govt would be friendlier to the BBC than the last one is, and that may be true, but i have this growing feeling that their "help" is going to be worse than the previous government's intransigence. Lisa Nandy apparently mulling whether the BBC can be funded through general taxation. ?? this would instantly kill whatever independence the BBC has remaining to it obviously. it's like these people have literally never thought about anything in their briefs before, and have decided there's no reason to start now.
some great quotes in here: https://www.thenational.scot/news/24850844.labour-considering-scrapping-bbc-licence-fee/
A source told The Sunday Times: “Funding the BBC through general taxation is not a realistic possibility, and is not being seriously considered.”
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 January 2025 09:23 (nine months ago)
Fairly amusing they use the words "mainlined into the UK veins" for a technology they know people are scared of. Did nobody think to say hmmm this isn't the best soundbite here?
― LocalGarda, Monday, 13 January 2025 09:28 (nine months ago)
I should say there are (based on a few offline convos with ppl recently) probably some interesting, focused use cases where the use of generative AI could make a meaningful impact.
Unfortunately what I have seen from the government (and when Lab were an opposition) was a lot of "AI will sort this" sort of magick.
So from 'impact' to delivering a ton of growth that will get the UK finances out of the shit and mitigate potential tariffs from a Trump admin in no time...this is not any kind of planned, structured approach. Especially with tech we don't own, and given we have seen a tech bubble over the years its asking a lot.
The other area in that piece is data centers/AI farms which requires infrastructure and could have a terrible ecological impact. One reason I think AI in the end won't work widely, until those impacts can be mitigated (if at all).
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 January 2025 09:32 (nine months ago)
Don’t worry about that we’re building a load of mini nuclear reactors
― crisp, Monday, 13 January 2025 09:49 (nine months ago)
Just publicly promoting every possible apocalypse
Turbocharge is so grim, its just January sales talk.
It's important to me that this Labour goverment improves your life and your community in ways you actually notice.Al has enormous potential to do that.While the Tories stifled growth and innovation, my government will use Al to turbocharge our Plan for Change.— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) January 13, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 January 2025 09:51 (nine months ago)
Good thread on all of this:
The UK at the current juncture couldn't really be in a worse position for this AI push too - high energy costs, weak unions/labour rights, universities collapsing and an economy already overloaded with various levels of scams.— Gareth (@g_f_red) January 13, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 January 2025 10:03 (nine months ago)
God knows there have been plenty of problems with Labour governments in the past but is this the stupidest Labour government ever?
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Monday, 13 January 2025 10:17 (nine months ago)
By the way, this should come as no surprise to anyone...
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/13/uk-low-middle-income-families-poorer-oecd-counterparts-study-western-europe
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Monday, 13 January 2025 10:22 (nine months ago)
Shocking really but who cares?
Pat McFadden says trying to halt the rollout of AI would be like "trying to press pause button on history".
We're really getting into Kang and Kodos type stuff here. Isn't history already paused? Does he mean the future? Also a pause button doesn't sound very futuristic, is the future a VCR?
― LocalGarda, Monday, 13 January 2025 10:34 (nine months ago)
Those who rewind history are doomed to miss the exact moment they were trying to get back to.
― nashwan, Monday, 13 January 2025 10:38 (nine months ago)
The bit I work for has an excellent and sensible idea for AI to make what we do more effective and guess what? It was already planned and being worked on.
― Tim, Monday, 13 January 2025 10:43 (nine months ago)
I heard a lot of this plan is going to be internal stuff and not public-facing things but idk.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 13 January 2025 11:01 (nine months ago)
If we, again, follow the logic of your questioning, just try to press the pause button in previous history, then we’d never have become an industrialised country in the first place.
Terrifying to even ponder.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 13 January 2025 11:11 (nine months ago)
omg they really did this, this graphic is the future that Labour apparatchiks want
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 January 2025 17:15 (nine months ago)
✅ Turbocharging growth✅ Boosting living standards✅ Putting more money in working people’s pockets pic.twitter.com/ejXqnVoR3G— The Labour Party (@UKLabour) January 13, 2025
indie 4X game on Steam from 2010
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 January 2025 17:16 (nine months ago)
Boosting living standards.
Everywhere the contradictions of the speculative AI boom.'Even without a big increase in AI data centres, by 2050, England faces a shortfall of nearly 5bn litres of water a day between the sustainable supplies available and the expected demand.'https://t.co/Tfbzw1Kkla— patrick bresnihan (@PBresnihan) January 14, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 January 2025 12:43 (nine months ago)
that article mixes units (litres per kwh? cubic metres?) in a way that is extremely (deliberately?) confusing and makes it almost impossible to tell if datacenter water usage is a meaningful fraction of water usage in the UK. it's not.
total water consumption in the UK is 16 billion litres a day. 50% of that is lost to leaks. if google moved every single one of its datacenters worldwide to the UK they would be responsible for 0.3% of UK water consumption. a typical datacenter uses about a million litres a day. fixing the leaks would be (literally) thousands of times more effective than reducing datacenter construction (or anything else).
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 January 2025 15:24 (nine months ago)
Sadly we won't be fixing the leaks anytime soon but fair enough.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 January 2025 15:45 (nine months ago)
yup. it would create a lot of good jobs if they did! blue new deal! (because water is blue, free idea for sr kieth)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 January 2025 16:06 (nine months ago)
Here's where the SNP missed a trick, forget North Sea oil, it's water that Scotland has almost exponentially more of than the rest of the UK.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 January 2025 16:08 (nine months ago)
sewage-cooled data centres. just saying.
― koogs, Tuesday, 14 January 2025 16:14 (nine months ago)
Believe it if its passed but its exactly the kind of policy direction a 'centre-left' government should be pursuing
https://news.sky.com/story/money-blog-consumer-personal-finance-inflation-mortgage-pound-blog-live-cheap-eats-sky-news-13040934
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 January 2025 10:59 (nine months ago)
Sorry, here:
https://news.sky.com/story/spain-property-warning-non-eu-residents-set-to-face-100-tax-rise-on-homes-in-the-sun-13288423
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 January 2025 11:00 (nine months ago)
AgreedThat said 27k houses owned by ex-EU buyers.. doesn’t seem like a lot
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 January 2025 11:15 (nine months ago)
It’s not a lot for the country, sure, but I’d imagine as the article alludes to that they are disproportionally located in certain areas.
― gyac, Wednesday, 15 January 2025 11:27 (nine months ago)
Sorry just reading that piece now - it says 27k a year, not 27k overall.
― gyac, Wednesday, 15 January 2025 11:28 (nine months ago)
Ahhh!
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 January 2025 11:31 (nine months ago)
27k here, 27k there… pretty soon you’re talking about real money
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 January 2025 11:36 (nine months ago)
That said 27k houses owned by ex-EU buyers.. doesn’t seem like a lot
Yes, there's got be a lot more British gangsters and drug dealers living in Spain than that.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 January 2025 12:15 (nine months ago)
This is a small story but I wonder if a few Tories in Eng will gradually defect to Reform over the course of Parliament.
NEW: Glasgow councillor Thomas Kerr has defected from the Scottish Conservatives to Reform UK. It means the Tories only have one councillor left in Glasgow pic.twitter.com/lqv4Vd8QUY— The National (@ScotNational) January 16, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 January 2025 11:57 (nine months ago)
Surprised it hasn’t happened already. A few more shit show PMQs from Badenoch and it’ll happen.
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 16 January 2025 12:15 (nine months ago)
I owe calzino an apology for the times I previously said David Lammy isn’t that bad
Donald Trump is not a warmonger and most people in the world are glad he is back in power, David Lammy said ahead of his inauguration on Monday.Going out of his way to praise the new president, the Foreign Secretary called him “gracious and generous”.
― gyac, Monday, 20 January 2025 15:01 (nine months ago)
Jesus that’s abject
― Sir Kock Farmer (wins), Monday, 20 January 2025 15:05 (nine months ago)
Excited for turn of the millennium poodle discourse to return, first as tragedy now as fart
― Sir Kock Farmer (wins), Monday, 20 January 2025 15:07 (nine months ago)
back when I used to slag Lammy off on here he was merely an untrustworthy conservative slimeball of the Labour Right with some very fucked up and regressive opinions on corporal punishment for children and the roots of social disharmony leading up to the London riots. He'd be feted by the libs for some grandstanding speeches occasionally, but still a complete cunt.
He's about ten times more evil and hateworthy now tbf! There were people posting about how much the greedy corrupt fuck was being paid by the Israel lobby long before 09/10 and it seems his lifetime ambition was to have the full set of genocidaire selfies with all the war criminals all the way up to Bibi. And now he's almost making Khan seem like a conviction pol. He's a pathetic careerist coward and it would be fucking hilarious if he still got demoted despite crawling on his knees, and completely debasing himself to appease a white supremacist.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 21 January 2025 03:56 (nine months ago)
Lol @ the corruption.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/21/rachel-reeves-car-finance-case-lenders-shares-lloyds-close-brothers
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 11:52 (nine months ago)
oh noes, making big finance legally responsible for illegal shit they do is scaring off US investors. Because that is all that fucking matters to these ghouls.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 January 2025 12:04 (nine months ago)
“stability” for me, but not for thee
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 12:36 (nine months ago)
Standard, socialism for the rich, unfettered capitalism for the poor
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 January 2025 12:46 (nine months ago)
this is so moronichttps://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/22/rachel-reeves-says-growth-matters-more-than-net-zero-heathrow-third-runway-decision
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 22 January 2025 21:09 (nine months ago)
wiping out humanity is just the price you pay for getting the Tories out
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 January 2025 21:43 (nine months ago)
ludicrous. if she even believes her argument she's more stupid than i thought and i thought she was pretty stupid. if growth is the only thing thats important than dont even bother having any climate policies at all let alone net zero. this whole starmer project feels like a deliberate attempt to disillusion as much of the non fash british public as possible so that they never even consider voting in a general election ever again. as such the project is succeeding tbf
― oscar bravo, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 22:01 (nine months ago)
lol we’re all gonna die remember that lol
― Sir Kock Farmer (wins), Wednesday, 22 January 2025 22:11 (nine months ago)
Tories could not progress a third runway so not sure why this shower would be able to.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 22:13 (nine months ago)
This is pur way version of "drill baby drill"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jan/23/legal-challenges-to-infrastructure-projects-to-be-blocked-in-push-for-growth
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:07 (nine months ago)
just been looking at it. despair is too strong a word but my anger and contempt for this party and its enablers is pretty toxic right now. gleefully accelerating decline with a sad face
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:12 (nine months ago)
Love how we are doingall of this for like, 0.7% growth in some quarter PR other.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:37 (nine months ago)
Even my phone keyboard has given up
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:38 (nine months ago)
Rachel Reeves being exactly as bad as we thought she’d be and worse is no comfort considering the next government will be fascist because of their failures
― triste et cassé (gyac), Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:41 (nine months ago)
absolutely blind to the cost to the economy of climate change too. but of course we'll be saved by AI, carbon capture, and planes that run on pure fucking wishful thinking, so what do i know?
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:44 (nine months ago)
and also that was way she feels the need to start attacking anyone that might oppose any of this, all part of the whole wonderful pipeline of othering (slurring -> ostracizing -> criminalizing?) that is a central feature of this government, whatever the issue
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:52 (nine months ago)
Its funny the majority of this government is huge but it feels like it might become a John Major government once they start losing by elections, bleeding at council level as well as Scotland/Wales.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 January 2025 12:02 (nine months ago)
at least now they're not pretending it's only the methods of climate protesters they hate
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 January 2025 12:04 (nine months ago)
"We have been listening to the concerns that have been raised by the non-dom community."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1we3re197po
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 23 January 2025 15:11 (nine months ago)
ffs that's a real quote
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 23 January 2025 15:15 (nine months ago)
the "community" of feckless millionaires
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 23 January 2025 15:16 (nine months ago)
Undergoing sensitivity training so as not to commit any microaggressions towards tax dodging scum
― Sir Kock Farmer (wins), Thursday, 23 January 2025 15:18 (nine months ago)
The concerns of the community of families with three or more children: DrakeSaysNo.jpg
The concerns of the "non-dom community": DrakeSaysYes.jpg
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 23 January 2025 15:18 (nine months ago)
right
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 24 January 2025 09:31 (nine months ago)
it almost makes the farmers inheritance tax or VAT on private schools policies weirder
obv i am entirely happy for both those things to be done but why are Labour sticking to them when they're so abject in their capitulation to mild pressure from wealthy interests elsewhere? do those two policies represent a substantial tax boost that holds their spending plans together? do they even have a coherent plan for boosting or adjusting the tax base? it looks like random policy hobby horses based on which member of the ruling clique has the most sway
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 January 2025 09:46 (nine months ago)
Yeah my take on it is that the farmers haven't taken ministers to enough lunches at Burger King.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 January 2025 09:57 (nine months ago)
I suspect tiers of capitulation, more things to throw out of the balloon to prove that they're 'serious'
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 24 January 2025 12:35 (nine months ago)
Don't care for polls but there will probably be a by election happening in a month and Lab could lose a seat. The dissatisfaction is deep.
https://twittet.com/LeftieStats/status/1882820288209149998?s=19
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 January 2025 12:34 (nine months ago)
🚨 BREAKING: Reform LEADS for first time 😐🟣 REF 26% (+1)🔵 CON 23% (-2)🔴 LAB 22% (-2)🟠 LD 12% (-)🟢 GRN 10% (-)Via @FindoutnowUK, 22 Jan (+/- vs 15 Jan) pic.twitter.com/OcgMpTgbgR— Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️⚧️ (@LeftieStats) January 24, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 January 2025 12:35 (nine months ago)
They will be telling themselves that they've got lots of time to turn this around. They won't turn it around and they are gonna be fighting each other like rabid rats in a sack any day now
It's beautiful in its way
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 January 2025 12:55 (nine months ago)
Remember, they’re all so ‘talented’.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 25 January 2025 12:57 (nine months ago)
Fuck around and findoutnowUK.
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 25 January 2025 16:02 (nine months ago)
SNP hammering Labour again in Scotland.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 January 2025 16:21 (nine months ago)
... despite being led by John Swinney.
Reeves will be talking about growth in her deathbed.
Questions like this are only revealing when a politician can’t answer them, and Rachel Reeves might be the worst I’ve ever seen at answering them. pic.twitter.com/bsROO6KG6B— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) January 25, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 January 2025 21:43 (nine months ago)
encouraging to see them actually acknowledge that capitalism is fundamentally hostile to a healthy planet
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Saturday, 25 January 2025 21:56 (nine months ago)
clean water or breathable air? neither because i want growth
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Saturday, 25 January 2025 21:59 (nine months ago)
the Dems amplified impressive growth figures and best covid recovery in G8 etc and lots of ppl said fuck these arseholes on election day, anyway. Maybe most reasonable human beings couldn't give a flying fuck about metrics like growth and gdp etc...? Especially coming from someone who isn't a credible economist, rather just a vacuous right-wing career pol. It's not like the levers of UK govt even have the power to make growth happen anyway. Not since Empire days.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 January 2025 22:24 (nine months ago)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8k2jknn8zo
UK government policy initiative: pretty please
― conrad, Sunday, 26 January 2025 13:53 (nine months ago)
Trump urged not to put massive tariffs on UK
― conrad, Sunday, 26 January 2025 13:54 (nine months ago)
During COVID lockdowns and furloughs, etc, the narrative was that the "economy was tanking" but a lot of people had lots of money in the bank due to being unable to go holidays or spend money in general, so realised that "The economy" didn't necessarily affect how "rich" they were...
― Mark G, Sunday, 26 January 2025 14:13 (nine months ago)
The UK benefits system is *SO* generous to landlords the DWP even has auto-approve systems built in to allow landlords to intentionally make their tenants poorer without any checks. https://t.co/5FyVIEGyXM pic.twitter.com/6N92bPUDIs— KPMG dad (@jenuflexion) January 26, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 January 2025 14:57 (nine months ago)
Our new Labour MP is invisible. I'm forever mailing him at any opportunity I get just to see how inept he is. I have had one reply saying he is overwhelmed by all the correspondence so expect a delay. How long should i expect to wait? it is 7 months now and he can't get a staff together to formulate a reply? My former SNP MP was a constant prescence around the constituency and was an A+ responder to any emails. I'd rate her 10/10 (and I say that as a non-SNP fan). This dude is 0/10.
George Galloway was once my MP here. This guy is almost as bad. i'm so angry that my fellow constituents fell for the same old Scottish Labour bullshit, all over again and are now of course regretting it bitterly.
― stirmonster, Monday, 27 January 2025 15:12 (nine months ago)
I had to make a formal complaint to the Labour party standards chair or whatever tf the role is called to get my MP, who won by about 1000 votes, to reply to an email. They really don't gaf, half of them, no concept of public service whatsoever.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 27 January 2025 16:55 (nine months ago)
It's exactly this kind of disregard (if not outright contempt) that have allowed the SNP to make such inroads in the past fifteen years.
― boxedjoy, Monday, 27 January 2025 17:02 (nine months ago)
"A Labour government that promised change is, for now, trying to attract investment – and doing so in the most craven, credulous fashion imaginable. So the chancellor who vowed to stamp on tax loopholes for non-doms now says she is “listening to the concerns that have been raised by the non-dom community”. The non-dom community! Here is identity politics at its most fraudulent. Whatever next, a Non-Dom History Month?"
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jan/29/labour-rachel-reeves-growth-trickle-down-economics
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 January 2025 11:55 (nine months ago)
stirmonster, our Labour replacement for the outgoing SNP guy we've had for the last two terms is exactly the same. Practically invisible with no presence whatsoever in the area, replacing a real community guy who attended every local event he could and set up weekly availability in community centres across the area.
Replacement nuLab lass has her constituency office in a lovely fancy building in the arse end of nowhere which is not on any bus routes. Every MP/MSP since I moved here 25 years ago has had offices in the town centre.
― ailsa, Thursday, 30 January 2025 12:31 (nine months ago)
The non-dom community!
They live in Ubiquity...
― Mark G, Thursday, 30 January 2025 16:42 (nine months ago)
New U.K. Ambassador Lord Peter Mandelson kept up contact with Jeffrey Epstein until 2012, according to new emails published in London. https://t.co/7w4gKbc4nO— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) January 31, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 31 January 2025 14:22 (nine months ago)
omg, Stephen Frears has done a Frost/Nixon style ch4 tv movie about that *legendary* Thatch interview that Walden did (with Coogan playing Walden).
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 31 January 2025 15:31 (nine months ago)
hate that kind of thing but i do wanna see Coogan doing Walden, at least a clip of it
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Friday, 31 January 2025 15:34 (nine months ago)
I liked Walden when I was a kid, so am going to watch.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 31 January 2025 15:37 (nine months ago)
Watched it last night. Thought it was quite light but still decent. Amusing. Coogan has a weird vibe in these dramas he does in that he still basically is doing an impression of the person. I like it because I think it sort of gives a more vivid sense of then more than a more polite actorly approach, but it does also sort of mean everyone around him is like they're playing a different sport. Also adds a comic feeling even when he played Savile.
Still thought it was good tho.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 31 January 2025 15:38 (nine months ago)
Legendary interview that nobody actually remembers.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 31 January 2025 15:39 (nine months ago)
Waiting on a two hour long drama on the legendary punch up between John Prescott and a farmer with a mullet. Michael Sheen piling on the pounds, a la De Niro in Raging Bull, to play washed up pugilist Prescott.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 31 January 2025 15:42 (nine months ago)
Career relaunch for Rory McGrath as farmer with mullet.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 31 January 2025 15:43 (nine months ago)
this fucking idiot:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/feb/01/reevess-heathrow-third-runway-report-was-commissioned-by-london-airport
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Saturday, 1 February 2025 20:27 (nine months ago)
hahahaha
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 1 February 2025 21:23 (nine months ago)
labour should just cut out the middleman and let mike ashley run the fucking country
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 1 February 2025 21:27 (nine months ago)
pretty obvious that the grudge against newts is cognitive envy
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 February 2025 21:37 (nine months ago)
The struggle to never ever learn anything continues
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/feb/04/group-of-labour-mps-urge-no-10-to-be-tougher-on-migration-to-fend-off-threat-from-reform
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 4 February 2025 20:43 (nine months ago)
if they're not going to make any sort of pushback on this stuff, why don't they just join reform instead?
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 20:46 (nine months ago)
The same complaint they had with the Tories - the rank amateurism and inefficiency of the grinders in question.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 4 February 2025 21:15 (nine months ago)
Another day another disgrace.
Our statement following Angela Rayner's decision to demolish Grenfell Tower pic.twitter.com/9JiB8FDNPA— Grenfell United (@GrenfellUnited) February 5, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 February 2025 09:58 (nine months ago)
consulting the bereaved is touchy feely anti-growth piffle and not the Labour way obv. I love the way that by the time they get voted out after just one term, just about the whole population of the UK will utterly despise them more than they did the tories after suffering 14 years of them. You really need to put the work in to pull that one off, well done again .. lads.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 February 2025 10:34 (nine months ago)
For the millionth time.. just incredible how bad these people are at their jobs
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 6 February 2025 11:01 (nine months ago)
Jez would never.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 6 February 2025 12:00 (nine months ago)
I think that is what has fatally hamstrung Starmer Labour (apart from them mostly being corrupt, subhuman creepazoids with terrible instincts who were always going to be fucking horrible anyway).
They are convinced that as long as they are doing the opposite of what Jez would do then they can never be that far from doing the job correctly. These are the only guiding principles they have!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 February 2025 12:10 (nine months ago)
Seems like there's a bit of a split between families about whether they consider they were consulted or not, or what should happen. No idea how that divide is shaped but when I read about it yesterday it appeared to be two factions and two different groups.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 6 February 2025 12:12 (nine months ago)
I could imagine the shell of the building could be deeply PTSD triggering for some bereaved ppl/survivors. Still no harm in consulting with them.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 February 2025 12:15 (nine months ago)
well no harm should read, You still need to fucking consult with them tbf!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 February 2025 12:17 (nine months ago)
it seems like one group is actively arguing 'we were consulted' and another is saying they weren't. i guess the definition of a consultation is pretty slippery, or like not much good if you were consulted then they come back with the decision you don't like.
just reading some other random residents' group leader on bbc saying everyone wants it taken down now.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 6 February 2025 12:18 (nine months ago)
this is actually p good in terms of the range of views: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq5g99xy979o
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 6 February 2025 12:20 (nine months ago)
not really related to rayner just thought it was interesting
I'm just lazily thinking there would have been wide wealth/class strata divides amongst Grenfell residents. Like some comparatively comfortable homeowners, some of them Housing Assoc or private renters and much poorer and there would be cliques amongst survivor groups.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 February 2025 12:28 (nine months ago)
I think you can find out from Zoopla how many of the Grenfell flats were in private hands but my guess is less than 25 per cent.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 6 February 2025 12:44 (nine months ago)
Survivors and bereaved are obviously not a monolithic bloc but yet again the way the optics have been managed is pathetic.
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 February 2025 12:44 (nine months ago)
yeah i was trying to unpick this from like, lol, my own prejudices or instincts, but couldn't really be sure.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 6 February 2025 12:48 (nine months ago)
I had a look and I can only see a handful of RTB flats connected to the Grenfell Tower postcode.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 6 February 2025 14:02 (nine months ago)
changed party
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/feb/06/labour-launches-ads-in-reform-style-livery-to-boast-about-deportations
― nashwan, Thursday, 6 February 2025 15:57 (nine months ago)
In 4.5 years we’re gonna need a guy to come in here & dryly observe “I find it rather bemusing, mere weeks ago you were shaking your fists at labour for ceding everything to fascists, and yet, now — oh ho ho — you are protesting those very fascists”
― the babality of evil (wins), Thursday, 6 February 2025 17:47 (nine months ago)
personally i'm looking forward to people telling me that voting for Wes Streeting's Repatriation and Hanging Party is the moral thing to do
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 February 2025 17:59 (nine months ago)
it's old news but I'm still mesmerised by this tour de force by Bridget Phillipson's Blairite hairstyle and the machinelike manner in which she brushes off questions about her murky deep sleaze with a psychotic smirking countenance that I just can't... (yeah fuck a Trevor Phillips - i know!)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 February 2025 19:28 (nine months ago)
Elsewhere accused of being a Marxist. The world's gone mad, I tell ye.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14365225/Britains-strictest-headteacher-Labour-Bridget-Phillipson.html
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 February 2025 19:41 (nine months ago)
Dining across the divide: the Marxist and the Headteacher. But instead of dining just drop them both into a deep pit of fast setting concrete.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 February 2025 20:10 (nine months ago)
that US style MAGA Republican partisan hyperbole, where centre-right conservative politicians can be called out as "Marxists" and this is considered normal and ok really shouldn't happen in this country. But that ship has already sailed, alas.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 February 2025 20:28 (nine months ago)
yeah. i think maybe there's always been a few ultra reactionary cranks in the UK who threw that word about, but nowadays it's part of a concerted push to frame minimal state/Austrian school economics as the only orthodoxy. i don't think any of these fuckers - ok maybe Hitchens - really "believes" that milquetoast social democrats are Marxists
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 February 2025 21:23 (nine months ago)
i know that this is really a trivial thing compared to whatever else is going on in the world but jfc the state of justice in this country...
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2025/feb/06/steve-coogan-spared-lengthy-driving-ban-after-pleading-need-to-film-the-trip
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Thursday, 6 February 2025 21:39 (nine months ago)
yeah. i think maybe there's always been a few ultra reactionary cranks in the UK who threw that word about
I recall Gove calling teachers' union leaders "Trots" a few years back like it was 1975 or something.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 February 2025 21:50 (nine months ago)
from this week’s popbitch newsletter:Rachel Reeves dined at Browns restaurant in Leeds recently and racked up a £300 bill. Don't worry though, she also asked for the service charge to be taken off.
― Why did the Beatles shun the Space Needle? (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 February 2025 22:55 (nine months ago)
xxp fucks sake, write the driving ban in you fucking berk, that'd be gold. Brydon can drive, yeah?
Look forward to all these cases getting dredged up when coogan kills someone.
Is this cool?
― SPENGE (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 7 February 2025 00:00 (nine months ago)
NEW: A Labour grandee Peter Mandelson told a journalist to 'f*** off' when he was asked about his links to disgraced paedophile financier Jeffrey Epsteinhttps://t.co/opzoIuqbEV— The National (@ScotNational) February 6, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 February 2025 09:49 (nine months ago)
look believing that there's a legitimate public interest in probing senior figures' long-term friendships with a notorious sex trafficker with murky links to intelligence services which continued even after the sex trafficker's conviction for child sex offences is the old politics
― Why did the Beatles shun the Space Needle? (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 February 2025 10:34 (nine months ago)
aye, I think that's what Chomsky said as well, so therefore it must be correct!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 February 2025 11:15 (nine months ago)
or maybe it was just the "fuck off" bit he said
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 February 2025 11:16 (nine months ago)
Love how anti-austerity and 'creative destruction' are cobbled together in this piece.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/17/economist-shaping-rachel-reeves-growth-plans-john-van-reenen
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 February 2025 11:45 (nine months ago)
if this is the standard bullshit economics wonk who has the most access to Reeves' ear for the last 6 months, then either he is a fucking moron or Reeves is ignoring him or maybe a bit of both!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 February 2025 12:13 (nine months ago)
‘He’s one of the best’
This absolute bollox just makes me laugh
I can't think of any less respect worthy type of *skillset* than "economics wonk who has networked/slimed their way into a govt advisory role". Literally, I have several million times more respect for someone who can take a vacuum cleaner apart and fault find/fix it or even someone who just spends all day playing factorio in their flat and jerking off.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 February 2025 15:51 (nine months ago)
I don't play factorio right?
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 February 2025 16:48 (nine months ago)
lol!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 February 2025 16:51 (nine months ago)
The Labour Party.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1lv153ydm6o
Enforcement teams raided 828 premises including nail bars, car washes, and restaurants and made 609 arrests - a 73% increase on the previous January.Home Office Minister Dame Angela Eagle told the BBC the decision to release footage of the arrests was to send a message about the realities of working illegally and she defended the government's approach as "compassionate".
Home Office Minister Dame Angela Eagle told the BBC the decision to release footage of the arrests was to send a message about the realities of working illegally and she defended the government's approach as "compassionate".
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 February 2025 17:00 (eight months ago)
Finally, the nail bars, car washes and restaurants of London are safe from these *checks notes* productive members of society
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 February 2025 17:01 (eight months ago)
To be clear I don't give a shit if people want to come to the UK and lounge around smoking spliffs and playing video games all day after all that is extremely in keeping with the national culture if that's what people are so worried about
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 February 2025 17:03 (eight months ago)
Gwynne, 50, is alleged to have made the comments in a WhatsApp messaging group with other local party figures.Keir Starmer sacked Gwynne on Saturday after his party was presented with the messages by the Mail on Sunday.A government spokesperson said: “The prime minister is determined to uphold high standards of conduct in public office and lead a government in the service of working people. He will not hesitate to take action against any minister who fails to meet these standards, as he has in this case.”The Gorton and Denton MP’s alleged messages include one in which he joked that he hoped a 72-year-old woman would soon die after contacting her Labour councillor about her bins.
Keir Starmer sacked Gwynne on Saturday after his party was presented with the messages by the Mail on Sunday.
A government spokesperson said: “The prime minister is determined to uphold high standards of conduct in public office and lead a government in the service of working people. He will not hesitate to take action against any minister who fails to meet these standards, as he has in this case.”
The Gorton and Denton MP’s alleged messages include one in which he joked that he hoped a 72-year-old woman would soon die after contacting her Labour councillor about her bins.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 February 2025 17:42 (eight months ago)
People make all sorts of terrible jokes to blow off steam in Whatsapp groups. These people are probably all cunts regardless but I'm not into the idea that private group chats need to be capable of withstanding the scrutiny of national newspapers
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 February 2025 17:46 (eight months ago)
it's not like starmer doesn't want to murder the elderly either
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Monday, 10 February 2025 17:54 (eight months ago)
100%, all of them love killing their "trot" constituents who are asking about their bin collection.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 February 2025 18:22 (eight months ago)
I've no sympathy for people who make racist and anti semitic "jokes" to "blow off steam".
― birming man (ledge), Monday, 10 February 2025 18:43 (eight months ago)
Oh did they? I just read the one about the elderly lady and the bins
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 February 2025 19:08 (eight months ago)
That's the one the DM liked "least", shall we say?
― Mark G, Monday, 10 February 2025 20:07 (eight months ago)
ftr
In March 2021, when, the Deputy Labour leader (Angela Rayner) faced criticism for claiming £249 Apple wireless headphones on Parliamentary expenses, Mr Gwynne reposted a tweet by a so-called parody account going by the name Tammy Pax MP. The tweet read: ‘I don’t see what the problem is. It’s literally impossible to give a blow*** while wear-ing wired headphones. Anyone with a similar background to Angela would understand this.’
The Stockport resident wrote to her local councillor saying she hadn’t voted Labour, but added: ‘As you have been re-elected I thought it would be an appropriate time to contact you with regard to the bin collections.’ After the councillor shared the letter among fellow Labour figures in the WhatsApp group, Mr Gwynne wrote a suggested response: ‘Dear resident, F*** your bins. I’m re-elected and without your vote. Screw you. PS: Hopefully you’ll have croaked it by the all-outs.’
Discussing a Labour meeting in Reddish, a member of the group asks if Marshall Rosenberg would be there. It appears to be a reference to a late American psychologist whose conflict management techniques might have been useful in heated Labour debates. Mr Gwynne responds: ‘No. He sounds too militaristic and too Jewish. Is he in Mossad?’
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Monday, 10 February 2025 22:46 (eight months ago)
Fuckin yikes
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 February 2025 23:21 (eight months ago)
Funny how my "principles" about closed Whatsapp groups vanish in a puff of smoke when I actually read the grisly details
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 February 2025 23:22 (eight months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/feb/10/labour-was-told-about-vile-whatsapp-group-more-than-a-year-ago-says-ex-councillor
Toxic WhatsApp group chats are the glue that holds the right of the Labour Party together. There was an MPs one called Birthday during the Jez years that they all used for factional plots, plus the Labour Files/Forde Report one from 2020 where Southside staff and Ian McNichol were shown to have undermined the 2017 election campaign and organised racist bullying of Diane Abbott. The latter in particular was full of people obsessed with fucking up ‘trots’, by which they mean anyone to the left of themselves.
I don’t think any group chat I’ve been in has ever featured racism or coordinated bullying of someone outside the chat; funny that. They seem to see it as their right, particularly the wife of J Ashworth who lost a suit where she was seeking redress from those who leaked her vile comments about Abbott. Until then, this woman was slated to become Starmer’s party GM. The chat came to light because one Southsider in it was foolhardy enough to send alerts to their own work computer.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 11 February 2025 07:07 (eight months ago)
I don’t think any group chat I’ve been in has ever featured racism or coordinated bullying of someone outside the chat; funny thatyep, exactly.
― birming man (ledge), Tuesday, 11 February 2025 08:05 (eight months ago)
Notable that this is now reported as a big deal when these cunts have been behaving like this for years. Guess the "at least they hate Corbyn" effect has finally worn off.
― Inside The Wasp Factory with Gregg Wallace (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 11 February 2025 08:17 (eight months ago)
IIRC the ‘Birthday’ group chat was instrumental in planning the rolling resignations after the Brexit vote. I’m sure there’s a WhatsApp group where Margaret Hodge et al organised ‘fighting antisemitism’ with senior journalists including her daughter, who was deputy editor on BBC News at 6 at the time.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 11 February 2025 08:33 (eight months ago)
Labour MPs having contempt for their constituents - hold the front page.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 February 2025 09:08 (eight months ago)
They are so dumb to think vile written comments under their own name wouldn't be used against them at some point.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 February 2025 09:28 (eight months ago)
Impunity is one helluva drug!
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 11 February 2025 10:26 (eight months ago)
I only discovered WhatsApp recently. I use it to talk to my brother on it, who lives in Dubai, while he does live cams of his fierce looking African cats and his wife can shout and swear at me in Finnish over some weird misunderstanding where she somehow thinks I'm pro-Putin! I thought it was more of a talking face-to-face app than a texting app. Not that I'd want to be face-to-face with some of the ugliest and most boring/nasty fuckers in politics.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 11 February 2025 12:17 (eight months ago)
I love how their bullying culture, which I've seen being grown at a local level when dealing with the 'left' in Lab is now being used on the general public with predictably disastrous results.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 February 2025 14:01 (eight months ago)
xp need to know more about the cats!
― triste et cassé (gyac), Tuesday, 11 February 2025 15:02 (eight months ago)
they are big and fierce looking. They look like ancient Pharoah guards. God knows what breed they are, but they are loud as well!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 11 February 2025 15:07 (eight months ago)
the WhatsApp group, which was called “Trigger Me Timbers”....
gruesome
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 11 February 2025 15:37 (eight months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/feb/11/kim-leadbeater-assisted-dying-bill-worlds-strongest-safeguards
maybe if you had a sterling reputation for honesty and policies centred on the wellbeing of vulnerable people then the alarm bells wouldn't be quite so loud
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 February 2025 17:19 (eight months ago)
"world's strongest safeguards" - the use of hyperbole is often the main warning sign of a pathological liar. Wouldn't trust a fucking word from Shitbeater or any of her ilk. Wouldn't trust anyone in the UK political system to even care about safeguarding the vulnerable let alone legislate for them. You know like, the very people they seem hellbent on killing off to save money for the last decade or so.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 11 February 2025 17:43 (eight months ago)
I just remembered a very cringey anti-brexit meme that was listing off countries and products, as in "you want to leave the EU but you eat from this place, drink wine from that place". But I don't remember what products were associated w/ which countries so can't find it - anyone know it?
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 14:32 (eight months ago)
PM Keir Starmer pledges to close loophole which let Gazans settle in UK https://t.co/gEcHC3ds4y— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) February 12, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 14:42 (eight months ago)
Basic human decency appears to be the loophole. BBC have no issue putting 'loophole' in the headline as if fact while buried in the article When questioned after the session, the prime minister's official spokesman did not specify what the "loophole" that needed closing was.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 14:55 (eight months ago)
They will further radicalise minorities as schemes like Prevent are shown to fail.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/feb/12/david-amess-killer-had-been-dropped-too-soon-by-prevent-review-finds
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 19:51 (eight months ago)
Racist man, racist policies
I was on a picket with someone who had to deal with Starmer a fair bit during 2015-19, and she said the thing with Keir is he doesn’t believe strongly in much but he is scarily racist and opposed to migrants. https://t.co/3u5PdOuhXj— Tom Gann (@Tom_Gann) February 8, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 19:54 (eight months ago)
"as voters say"...?
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 20:00 (eight months ago)
I'm a voter and I say Starmer is a cunt. Reckon if they did a poll for that I'd be in the majority too.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 20:01 (eight months ago)
They're showing footage of 16,000 deportations?
― a long-abandoned blogspot page (Matt #2), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 20:28 (eight months ago)
you have to subscribe to the OnlyFans to see all 16,000
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 20:31 (eight months ago)
this crap was in the guardian this morning...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/feb/12/uk-skilled-worker-visa-eligibility-list
...and maybe i'm being obtuse but i just read it as 'why are we giving work permits to foreign DJs?' and it seems genuinely deranged that anyone is thinking that we should only be have UK DJs play here instead. them foreign DJs coming over here and stealing our gigs. I know that that there are far bigger issues at stake here but does this dude really think hey let's refuse entry to i dunno, Octo Octa or whoever just to get the figures down?
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 22:02 (eight months ago)
I read it and just thought the vibe was 'it's surprising the many people who come to work in the uk and are allowed to', idk. Like a sort of classic academic boffinish take but not one that was against that, more just a did u know. idk.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 22:13 (eight months ago)
a take perhaps naively open to being attacked or co-opted but i didn't read that as the intent. it is a strange article tho which doesn't really seem to know itself.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 22:14 (eight months ago)
you're probably quite right. wonder if he also included concert pianists, opera singers etc (i'm guessing not)
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 22:24 (eight months ago)
i don't precisely know if i am correct, i just kinda read it the other way. like you often hear of djs not getting a visa into america (villalobos was a big one) and so i wondered if this was just someone in the chain of decisions in the uk having properly ensured that won't be a prob here. not a politician just like whatever autonomous bureaucracy. but hard to tell from the article.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 23:12 (eight months ago)
yeah i get that. i was just triggered by the article lumping DJs in with dog walkers as possibly frivolous reasons to let people in. actually i bet a lot of DJs are also dog walkers, could see that would be a nice complimentary pairing, there are probably worse ways to live
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 23:34 (eight months ago)
I read it as an ivory tower cunt pedantically pointing out that cruel and inhuman laws weren't being applied in a consistently cruel way, and that should probably be fixed for the sake of consistency. I dunno, maybe he had done other motivation, but that's what I get from it.
― Inside The Wasp Factory with Gregg Wallace (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 23:38 (eight months ago)
https://archive.is/wIX49 oof
― triste et cassé (gyac), Thursday, 13 February 2025 13:30 (eight months ago)
just horrible people. but i'd love to see some - any - chats from tory mps.
― birming man (ledge), Thursday, 13 February 2025 13:35 (eight months ago)
Shower of shit-for-brains wankers who don't understand how WhatsApp works... to add to their more obvious faults.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 February 2025 13:57 (eight months ago)
some wanker at the FT described Gwynne as a 'Corbynite'!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 13 February 2025 14:11 (eight months ago)
in France they call it a Stormzé with cheese
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 February 2025 08:37 (eight months ago)
When Reeves said she was an economist at the Bank of England for a decade, it wasn’t just a slip of the tongue in an interview. She said it repeatedly in scripted speeches.She actually worked there for less than 5 years if you take off study time. It’s a straight lie. pic.twitter.com/ChxMqMhNwe— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) February 13, 2025
every quiet news day should lead with RR's fake CV imo. She should be happy it has come out that she bullshitted the amount of time she was at BoE. It might have been more damning for her rep had it been disclosed she had spent 10 years working in the complaints dept. Then getting sacked for expense fiddling at HBOS (mostly spent on expensive gifts for her bosses). What a creepy, shabby, incompetent wretch, let's just keep throwing pelters at her until McSween gives the thumb down. It wouldn't make anything any better, but tbf I have hated her for about 12 years now and am enjoying this somewhat!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 14 February 2025 08:54 (eight months ago)
LOL. The stupidity of these clowns is endless.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 14 February 2025 09:09 (eight months ago)
idk on the one hand this is great, on the other hand this is time and energy that could be spent vilifying Liz Kendall
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 February 2025 09:19 (eight months ago)
The public hate this lot so much they are all willing to give Reform a shot.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 February 2025 09:23 (eight months ago)
now he's shown what an unprincipled, greedy feckless shitbag he is the next step of his career could well be in politics!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 14 February 2025 10:27 (eight months ago)
Fuck Reeves to death, but I can't say I'm too fussed about her CV. Guilty your honour, I've been creative with my CV to get a job...
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 14 February 2025 10:52 (eight months ago)
I think it's notable that the BBC and the rest of our garbage media choose to focus on this stuff with Reeves but gave their great mate Boris Johnson a completely free pass because he was "one of us"
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 14 February 2025 10:56 (eight months ago)
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 14 February 2025 bookmarkflaglink
Its weird bcz you don't need to be any kind of economist to be the Chancellor. You are there by winning votes from the public.
Its more that Lab made this into a competency in the first place. You have to be 'qualified', and then they've gone 'look at my CV'.
Which is different from randomly talking up your CV to get a job. Once you've got it you do the role and no one even checks your CV.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 February 2025 11:05 (eight months ago)
they gave Reeves a free pass as well imo. If she wasn't such a vile right-wing austerity hawk this shit would have been out for public scrutiny BEFORE the GE. Instead we got the RR fanfic treatment from Nick Robinson.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 14 February 2025 11:06 (eight months ago)
Its more that Lab made this into a competency in the first place.
hell yeah. All the talk of standards and only the highest quality candidates as well, fuck them getting away with this!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 14 February 2025 11:08 (eight months ago)
xp this is true, but Johnson never had his pass revoked even after a great deal of reprehensible bullshit. Anyway I should probably stop "fighting yesterday's battles" and instead focus my attention, laser-like, on growth, growth, growth!
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 14 February 2025 11:26 (eight months ago)
Margaret Thatcher's disgustingly inedible cooking recipes have aged better than the book RR put out that was almost entirely made from plagiarising colleagues and wikipedia entries. This was another thing that should have got much more media attention during the election campaign imo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 14 February 2025 11:35 (eight months ago)
https://kmflett.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/image-31.png
this is the kind of shit that you see in this era on youtube sometimes, tbf
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 14 February 2025 11:54 (eight months ago)
reaction video of Frenchman sampling the Thatcher cuisine
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 14 February 2025 11:55 (eight months ago)
it's a mystery starter. Yeah, probably better off not asking much about it!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 14 February 2025 12:04 (eight months ago)
God I'd probably believe there is no such thing as society after eating that too.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 15 February 2025 10:22 (eight months ago)
It’s why they invented HP sauce
― Ward Fowler, Saturday, 15 February 2025 10:35 (eight months ago)
"The night they invented HP SauceIt's plain as it can beThey thought of you and meThe night they invented HP SauceThey absolutely knewThat all we'd want to do isFly to the sky on HP SauceAnd shout to everyone in sightThat since that world beganNo woman or a manHas ever been as happy as we are tonight"
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 February 2025 10:43 (eight months ago)
"Staffers say the former Goldman Sachs executive caused surprise within HQ when he suggested introducing key performance indicators (KPIs) to spur on Reform’s army of canvassers. “It took some of the old guard who’ve been around to point out we were basically talking about older volunteers in the country who were doing this for free,” a source said. But Yusuf appears to have been persuasive about the targets: Reform officials are now subject to KPIs."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/feb/15/reform-uk-inside-story-of-nigel-farage-quest-for-power
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 February 2025 12:40 (eight months ago)
They have ppl who can chair a meeting and take minutes too. Lab are fucked
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 February 2025 12:41 (eight months ago)
Damn. I thought only Special K had these extraordinary skills.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 15 February 2025 13:46 (eight months ago)
Starmer trying to summon up courage to overrule Rachel Reeves - on what? 2-child benefit cap? Winter Fuel Allowance ? Taxing the rich ? No : more bombs and bullets. A country with hungry children and warships isn't strong, it's puffed up (like Starmer) pic.twitter.com/e864d7Q1DJ— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) February 16, 2025
right-wing cunts will always find the money for more guns.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 16 February 2025 11:47 (eight months ago)
That Daily Mail front page spooked him eh
― imago, Sunday, 16 February 2025 11:48 (eight months ago)
(yes, I know this is what he wants too)
― imago, Sunday, 16 February 2025 11:49 (eight months ago)
Trump is not gonna care what Starmer does or doesn't do. That trip has a lot of humiliation potential.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 16 February 2025 11:50 (eight months ago)
i don't know, Kieth won't back down from a pledge
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 February 2025 11:54 (eight months ago)
this is precisely what he got into politics for in the first place, to so thoroughly debase himself on the world stage he'll forever be remembered as a joke, just gagging on a KKK pensioner's dick for no positive outcome at all!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 16 February 2025 11:57 (eight months ago)
A funny detail from the HBOS whistleblower report on Rachel Reeves’ expenses - imagine finding out a colleague used your work as an excuse to expense themselves a bottle of Moet https://t.co/2YK70J5Zsx pic.twitter.com/oPOTlz5Go1— G (@_georgeabby) February 15, 2025
Rachel Reeves takes the art of being an absolute piece of shit to absolute perfection. I'm just completely obsessed with her exceptional levels of shittiness.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 16 February 2025 12:12 (eight months ago)
how have we come to have the pettiest, most grasping, craven, selfish leaders of all time???? wtf!!
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 16 February 2025 12:41 (eight months ago)
they all represent parties within political systems entirely captured by the interests of global capital, being a malleable fraud is basically the only way to get this job now
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 February 2025 12:46 (eight months ago)
even when she commits expense fraud, which normally is a victimless crime. She has to make a victim/dupee out of a colleague. That's a deeply fucked up person imo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 16 February 2025 12:50 (eight months ago)
a sociopath who despises humanity is my amateur psyche report!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 16 February 2025 12:51 (eight months ago)
fuck's sake played pretty well for 10 minutes
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 February 2025 14:16 (eight months ago)
Reeves?
― jazz divorcée (Matt #2), Sunday, 16 February 2025 14:18 (eight months ago)
She's playing Liverpool at Anfield as we speak.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 February 2025 14:19 (eight months ago)
lol i haven't even had a drink
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 February 2025 14:20 (eight months ago)
Reeverhampton Wanderers.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 February 2025 14:22 (eight months ago)
even at our feckless worst that's a gross calumny
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 February 2025 14:23 (eight months ago)
Come on the Reeves!
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 February 2025 14:25 (eight months ago)
I'm drinking moet as a tribute to our multifaceted chancellor who is growing the UK economy so fucking fast whilst also playing as a prop forward for St Helens!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 16 February 2025 14:26 (eight months ago)
Reeves has a top class CV she will work it out.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/feb/15/rachel-reeves-has-three-options-to-dodge-an-economic-crisis-and-all-are-unthinkable
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 16 February 2025 19:15 (eight months ago)
Growth has stalled – the Bank of England said earlier this month that it had reduced its growth forecastnever heard of Rachel Reeves
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 16 February 2025 19:19 (eight months ago)
it’s weird how being a craven moron actually has consequences. (not for the moron herself, obviously)
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 16 February 2025 19:44 (eight months ago)
A confusing moment at this pathetic ARC thingAlso appearing on a panel was the Labour peer and proponent of the socially conservative Blue Labour movement, Maurice Glasman. The peer, who is on ARC’s advisory board, said he agreed with those at the event who believed that capitalism “desecrates humanity” when it treated human beings as commodities.
― nashwan, Monday, 17 February 2025 20:40 (eight months ago)
more like White Labour
meanwhile tbh i'm not really feeling the whole Cold War 2 thing
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 08:53 (eight months ago)
oh and i got a letter from my MP yesterday telling me how tough she's gonna be on antisocial behaviour and asking how many extra cops i'd like to order
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 08:57 (eight months ago)
I want to see some tougher laws and crackdowns on expense fiddling frauds who con their way into top government positions they aren't fit or capable of doing. Not going to fucking happen tho is it!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 09:17 (eight months ago)
Its not gonna be that easy.
Hope you're all ready because we are rapidly approaching the conditions ripe to trigger a revolution in Britain.— Marl Karx (@BareLeft) February 17, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 09:52 (eight months ago)
Reeves trying to shield corrupt wrongdoing banks from paying compensation because it "undermines their competitiveness". Honestly, just fire this piece of shit into space.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 14:54 (eight months ago)
ppl say it doesn't matter that her CV is a bullshit work of fiction. They should be bothered when she is trying supress the truth about banks screwing consumers and trying to shield these corrupt fucks from accountability
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 15:01 (eight months ago)
the fact that she was told to f off by m' learned friends is also very funny
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 15:17 (eight months ago)
If some UK Supreme Court judges did actually say something like "our ruling is fuck off and die Rachel Reeves" in a courtroom. I'd say fair play to these lads!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 15:25 (eight months ago)
Talking of which:
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 15:34 (eight months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/feb/18/top-judge-deeply-troubled-by-pmqs-exchange-on-gaza-asylum-case
Streeting giving his tuppence-worth on the Lucy Letby case recently too, so much for judicial independence if you think it'll please the Reform voter base to pretend it doesn't exist
― who are the spanish nickelback (Matt #2), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 16:54 (eight months ago)
you've really got to question getting into this Letby-truther quagmire, especially by whom her loudest advocates are, like Toby fucking Young and P Hitchens!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 17:05 (eight months ago)
There's only one person who knows what happened, and she ain't talking! Actually she is but a jury of non-experts sent her dungeon-wards anyway. Toby Young certainly isn't "in the know", that's one thing I can tell you for sure.
― who are the spanish nickelback (Matt #2), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 17:09 (eight months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/feb/19/uk-inflation-increases-rising-prices-squeeze-households
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 February 2025 11:02 (eight months ago)
Wonder what has pushed up food costs and whether climate change has anything to do with it? *thinking emoji face*
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 February 2025 11:04 (eight months ago)
no point asking Reeves, when she is eating in constituency restaurants, she demands the celebrity discount of no service charges on the £300 bill she has run up and no doubt claims the bill back on expenses. She didn't get into politics to struggle to pay for food like some two-bit loser!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 11:21 (eight months ago)
war economy + rationing will sort this right out
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 11:55 (eight months ago)
it's working gangbusters in Russia. Some great opportunities for entrepreneurs over there if they can manage to steal a shitload of butter!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 11:58 (eight months ago)
I think there must be a huge correlation of UK people who are simultaneously mad keen to fight Putin and also way beyond conscription age or beyond any fucking use to armed forces
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 12:01 (eight months ago)
Also National Service was 65 years ago, so hardly any of them will have experienced that let alone fought in any wars.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 12:21 (eight months ago)
the average age of ukrainian soliders is 45, these guys had better be careful what they wish for lest they find themselves next year in the newly-conscripted gammon division in some godforsaken oblast facing down a barrage of incoming cannon fire
― Why did the Beatles shun the Space Needle? (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 12:35 (eight months ago)
I don’t think anyone is angling for a war with Russia. Even sending troops to support a peace deal is unlikely, as Russia is adamant that they won’t agree to one in those circumstances.
The Russian objective is pretty clearly to con Trump into agreeing to a deal in return for vague promises of pivoting away from China and use their absence of support for Ukraine to push for full control, either through annexation or installation of a puppet government. Positioning any post-deal territorial split as backed by European / U.K. security guarantees makes that plan a lot harder, if not impossible. If anyone thinks that Russia is going to negotiate a deal backed by European security guarantees and then invade Ukraine again, leading to fighting with British troops, there is not much off the table beyond that - including the invasion of EU member states. The goal is to undermine a ‘sell-out’.
It sucks but, unless things change, NATO is basically dead and the US is, at best, going to act like a protection racket or, quite plausibly, an actively hostile enemy. The era of being able to rely on their insane defence spending for a measure of security is over, for now.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 19 February 2025 12:54 (eight months ago)
Last month I was wondering what was happening with the N Korean troops and kept finding horrific PPV drone footage where the drone camera cuts out as it explodes near the target. This was stuff taken from Ukraine army telegram account. Because I was wondering if it was AI produced propaganda. It just hit me that this was what the horror of the meatgrinder is now like on a modern battlefield. There are probably drone operators who have remotely killed thousands of people. Apparently the Russian Army are losing 1500 a day through "meat assault" tactics. It's absolutely terrifying and bleak to think about this shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 13:49 (eight months ago)
Another one at it.
The Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA) has said it will reinvestigate business secretary Jonathan Reynolds over accusations he misrepresented his legal career after “further information” came to light, PA Media reports.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 21 February 2025 15:26 (eight months ago)
The business secretary worked for Addleshaw Goddard LLP in Manchester as a trainee solicitor before he was elected as Labour MP in 2010 and never qualified as a solicitor.Mr Reynolds has been accused of describing himself as a solicitor on several occasions - including on his LinkedIn page, in the Commons and on an old constituency website that is no longer online - when he had actually only worked as a trainee.
Mr Reynolds has been accused of describing himself as a solicitor on several occasions - including on his LinkedIn page, in the Commons and on an old constituency website that is no longer online - when he had actually only worked as a trainee.
lol, love this shit. like most politicians, why go through the hard work of gaining any real qualifications when you can get into the ultimate easy money game of being an MP!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 21 February 2025 16:13 (eight months ago)
We can bring criminal proceedings when: an unqualified person has acted as a solicitor (Section 20 of the Solicitors Act 1974) or pretended to be or used the title, or a description, implying that they are a solicitor (Section 21 of the Solicitors Act 1974)
lol, this dickhead could be in real trouble as well (sadly, probably not)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 21 February 2025 16:22 (eight months ago)
BREAKING: Scottish Labour have pledged to create an Elon Musk-style 'Doge' to find public spending cuts.It comes just days after the Scottish Tories announced the same idea pic.twitter.com/kebruwEwJR— The National (@ScotNational) February 21, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 February 2025 17:15 (eight months ago)
exemplary stuff, truly the finest minds in politics, the very highest quality candidates
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2025 17:51 (eight months ago)
he could have just filled the party with corporate lobbyists and dodgy as fuck donors, but no he did the difficult thing by demanding such high standards!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 21 February 2025 18:28 (eight months ago)
i’m fuckin greetin at these cunts
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 21 February 2025 18:38 (eight months ago)
*looking across the Atlantic* yes we will run the next election on a platform of austerity and job cuts
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 February 2025 19:16 (eight months ago)
It’s the logical conclusion of the Blair/Clinton third way bollocks the centre left have been utterly complicit in furthering the idea that government can’t and shouldn’t do things of benefit to the population at all and certainly not better or cheaper than the market.
How dare a municipal park keeper have a smoko in their shed, when you can have some gig economy member of the precariat have no time to do a good job for a lot less money. Facetious example but fuck cheaper is better. Waste was just slack that allowed people to get things done.
Lean has to result in quality output. Efficiency has a numerator as well as a denominator.
― Ed, Friday, 21 February 2025 21:58 (eight months ago)
Or maybe that’s a denominator as well as a numerator.
― Ed, Friday, 21 February 2025 21:59 (eight months ago)
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 22 February 2025 12:42 (eight months ago)
oh thanks for that recommend, that sounds like a headfuck.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 22 February 2025 12:47 (eight months ago)
it’s quite good, his book entitled Manhunts is also deeply interesting and disturbing in equal measure
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 22 February 2025 15:44 (eight months ago)
Getting difficult to keep up with the Labour carnage, I'd forgotten about this one!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/feb/24/suspended-labour-mp-mike-amesbury-sentenced-assault
― the patron saint of epilepsy and beekeepers (Matt #2), Monday, 24 February 2025 12:48 (eight months ago)
Lab had a big majority over Reform. The meltdown if they lose any byelection will be delicious.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 24 February 2025 13:08 (eight months ago)
That judge looks like they enjoyed themself
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 February 2025 15:54 (eight months ago)
I'm assuming Reform are going to win this whoever Labour put up, so at least this would provide some light relief
🔴RUNCORN & HELSBY (possible by-election): there's also talk of Jonathan Ashworth, the shadow cabinet member who lost Leicester South at the election. Party officials think his pugnacity would be ideal, but it would be devastating for Ashworth to lose two seats in one year. https://t.co/R2oUAm5Dko— @Tomorrow'sMPs (@tomorrowsmps) February 25, 2025
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 14:46 (eight months ago)
lol would be happy to move to Runcorn just to vote that cunt out again
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 14:49 (eight months ago)
we need to pivot away from a thin skinned guy with a temper to... ashworth
― oscar bravo, Tuesday, 25 February 2025 14:58 (eight months ago)
Ashworth will shit out on this one, there is no way he has the mental resilience for a second public humiliation in such a short time. He landed a cushy Labour Together job for his previous failure and he can say he was the victim of a misinformation campaign or some bullshit like that. If he loses for the 2nd time he's in the verified failure category of a P Mason level loser.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 15:29 (eight months ago)
Also it would interfere with his media work, he's on television more than Romesh Ranganathan.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 15:34 (eight months ago)
paying for an increased defense budget by reducing the international aid budget is so incredibly on-brand for starmer’s labour. ignore the causes, focus only on effects, especially when it lets you kill brown people
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 25 February 2025 18:46 (eight months ago)
he's such a braindead politician. There is literally nothing going on his head other than PR, short term news cycle gratification, zombie Atlanticism and chasing Reform voters. He doesn't have a fucking clue about history or geopolitics. He doesn't care about humanity. Everything about him should be disqualifying.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 18:57 (eight months ago)
no matter who you vote for the Revolutionary Communist Party always gets in
EXC with @patrickkmaguire Keir Starmer’s senior aides have been holding talks in Number 10 on multiculturalism with Munira Mirza, Boris Johnson’s former policy chief, as they seek to tackle the rise of Reformhttps://t.co/KvL28liL6h— Lara Spirit (@lara_spirit) February 26, 2025
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 26 February 2025 10:30 (eight months ago)
GB News hosed Kieth with this:
"Reform UK's policy is to increase defence spending to 2.5% of GDP by 2027 and 3% of GDP in 2030, funded by a £6 billion saving in the aid budget. You said you'll increase defence spending to 2.5% by 2027 to 3% after 2030, funded by a £6 billion cut in the aid budget.
Are you Nigel Farage in disguise?"
Starmer had zero comback to that. Said Farage was too close to Putin. But that wasn't the question.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 26 February 2025 12:15 (eight months ago)
It would be useful to get a breakdown of exactly where this spending is going because there’s a pretty substantial difference between ‘investing in the U.K. industrial base’ and being blackmailed into throwing a bunch of money at Northrop Grumman or Trump stops retuning the phone calls.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 26 February 2025 13:06 (eight months ago)
God they are so dumb.
Two Labour figures from different wings of the party tell me: Keir Starmer’s response to @realDonaldTrump on Ukraine is shaping up to be PM’s “Falklands moment” - when an unpopular Margaret Thatcher turned round her fortunes by a resolute response to an international crisis…..— Nicholas Watt (@nicholaswatt) February 26, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 February 2025 13:46 (eight months ago)
Just need to find a random old Russian battleship tootling thru international watere now
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2025 13:51 (eight months ago)
Nothing says ‘resolute’ like being terrified to contradict whatever an erratic fascist happens to indicate the thinks that week.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 26 February 2025 13:51 (eight months ago)
his Mr Bean attempt at Churchill yesterday was at least some grimly amusing PR fail nonsense that shows how bad Kieth is at this nonsense. but unfortunately, when the people who are paid to analyse politics are on some strong drugs and encouraging this fantasy world version of events, it's so fucking dumb - it's not even amusing anymore.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 26 February 2025 14:00 (eight months ago)
Realised today what Kieth reminds me of physically. In like Blue Planet when they do a ‘deep sea’ episode and show a decomposing whale corpse on the ocean floor being eaten by all these weird and wonderful creatures. He looks like he was carved out of one of those.
― crisp, Wednesday, 26 February 2025 14:04 (eight months ago)
i hope every single member of the cabinet dies in blistering pain asap
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 February 2025 18:21 (eight months ago)
Kieth could have actually made a funny joke today. Like Trump and Mando are both lying duplicitous crooks and both were regular Paedophile Island visitors and have a murky history of dealings with Putin adjacent oligarchs. That's the joke ffs!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 February 2025 18:49 (eight months ago)
What happens now Starmer's brain-genius plan to become the Trump-Whisperer has blown up in his face like an exploding cigar ? When Trump comes to Scotland + cops are chasing round protesters and the big Trump Baby Balloon is launched, will all the Labour MPs be scolding them?— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) February 28, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 1 March 2025 14:46 (eight months ago)
cannot fathom how dull witted you have to be to succumb to a groupthink that's impressed by your prime minister reading a little letter out to get petted on the head by donald trump, and which fails to predict how explicitly aligning yourself with his every whim might play badly— Stan's Account (@tristandross) March 1, 2025
this could well be the strategic fuckup that will finish off Kieth. It's incredible that there are people who get paid to write about this stuff who aren't reporting on how much he has fucked up bigtime here. I was so embarrassed for him I had to stop watching. And some people see this as statecraft?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 1 March 2025 18:42 (eight months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/mar/01/residents-trapped-with-service-charges-of-up-to-8000-a-year-to-take-legal-action-against-government
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 1 March 2025 19:46 (eight months ago)
Watching Lab destroy themselves is my joy.
This was always the risk of appointing Mandelson as an ambassador. He’s giving his own opinion, which clashes with the careful tone and position carved out by Starmer. pic.twitter.com/p12j5jagnX— Fraser Nelson (@FraserNelson) March 3, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 March 2025 09:53 (eight months ago)
I suspect this is part of a coordinated effort to convince Trump that an EU/UK/Ukraine peace plan is his idea - and to get him angry when Russia rejects it - rather than Mandleson going off on a frolic of his own, but you wouldn’t put it past him.
― ShariVari, Monday, 3 March 2025 10:16 (eight months ago)
Maybe. Don't know if Mandelson can be trusted with a plan.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 March 2025 12:12 (eight months ago)
He can't be trusted full stop.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Monday, 3 March 2025 12:16 (eight months ago)
What for?
Record number of Americans apply for UK citizenship https://t.co/7vf8ommIrU— Financial Times (@FT) March 3, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 08:16 (eight months ago)
Number is four
― Mark G, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 08:18 (eight months ago)
but also this, from 18 hrs ago
Record number of Brits apply for Irish passports amid post-Brexit malaise
https://www.yahoo.com/news/record-number-brits-apply-irish-123104327.html
and also this from last month
https://www.arabianbusiness.com/politics-economics/middle-class-britons-join-wealth-exodus-to-uae-amid-uk-economic-uncertainty
― koogs, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 11:10 (eight months ago)
My sister tried her damnedest to root out Irish heritage in our family but we seem to have come over some time in the 1840s/50s (I wonder why...)
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 11:13 (eight months ago)
You get a certificate and a photo of you with a person dressed up all weird.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 11:16 (eight months ago)
Irish passport makes it easier to get a US green card
― Mark G, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 11:49 (eight months ago)
They don't call it a green card for nothing.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 11:58 (eight months ago)
Why doesn't everyone just get Irish citizenship and cut out the middle men
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 12:05 (eight months ago)
In new we are screwed news.
https://news.sky.com/story/rail-fares-rise-by-46-in-england-and-wales-despite-record-low-reliability-of-services-13319936
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 16:44 (eight months ago)
luckily the assisted dying bill is gonna price a lot of us out of the market for taking the easy way out
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 18:31 (eight months ago)
Labour campaigned on the pledge that they would be knocking a grand off our bills annually. So far my rent has gone up, water has gone up, gas/electric is going up, food is still too expensive. ffs they can at least knock a bit of money off the price of private assisted death!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 18:37 (eight months ago)
My water dd has gone up by about 30%. That is fucking outrageous.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 18:46 (eight months ago)
Haven’t received mine yet but on yours, am wondering if you qualify for social rates? If you do and it’s up by a third, yikes!
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 18:50 (eight months ago)
to be precise it has gone up by 32.82%! I'm a priority customer because of disabled son, don't know about social rates.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 18:57 (eight months ago)
I think you might be able to get more help than you’re currently getting:
https://www.yorkshirewater.com/bill-account/help-paying-your-bill/
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 19:21 (eight months ago)
thanks Suzy. I'm going look into that tomorrow.
Kim Leadbeater: “We shouldn’t prohibit open conversation with terminally ill young people…this creates openness.”
the way she uses words is so fucking chilling, like trying to sound superficially empathetic, while campaigning for extremely dangerous bills that will no doubt kill vulnerable people, or in this case vulnerable children - who aren't covered by the MCA.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 19:30 (eight months ago)
Well, her job before becoming an MP was… life coach.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 20:04 (eight months ago)
From life coach to death cheerleader.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 20:47 (eight months ago)
This is just horrible and creepy.
We asked young people and businesses how our increase in defence spending would impact them.This is what they said 👇 pic.twitter.com/bQap83za7u— UK Prime Minister (@10DowningStreet) March 4, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 March 2025 11:13 (eight months ago)
Was some of the increase in spending some fella with a gun just off-camera?
Good to see that Kevin there is underlining that a career in the Defence Industry doesn't have to stop post-death.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 5 March 2025 11:25 (eight months ago)
Has anyone read “Get In”, about how Labour won the election?
One of McSweeney’s acolytes reportedly compared Starmer to a man sitting in the front cab on the automated Docklands Light Railway who thinks he is driving the train.
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 8 March 2025 09:26 (eight months ago)
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 8 March 2025 09:33 (eight months ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GldEMarXgAAUxXk?format=jpg&name=900x900
this grotesque piece of fanfic was infuriating, especially after recently reading about how she ran up a £300 bill (no doubt expense claimed) at a posh Leeds restaurant and demanded the service charge was taken off. It's a fucking joke and an insult to people's intelligence to call someone Thrifty after it is already on public record that they have a history of fiddling expenses for champagne. Do they (UK media hacks) have any genuine curiosity as to why UK politicians are hated so much?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 8 March 2025 09:46 (eight months ago)
i've been reading the alleged PIP and UC proposals since last night and tbh i'm still too depressed to snark about it
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 March 2025 09:51 (eight months ago)
Audible keeps recommending it but not sure I will give it my vote. I think this is because, out of curiosity, I got that Simon Hart book about his time as chief whip etc, with an Audible credit. I read a lot of bullshit in the papers about how he's a polite decent man etc but he's a complete bell end imo, it's absolutely riddled with accidental Partridge moments, but also idiotic political views. I sort of recommend it just for the sheer blithe arrogance, completely unfiltered, of a 'good Tory' prattling on about this and that, like it genuinely is interesting understanding their mindset. Those of this parish will be happy to know he keeps talking about how left wing Keir Starmer is.
Also it got a lot of vaguely positive reviews which paint him as a decent sensible man highlighting how "the system is dysfunctional" or we need electoral/political reform or whatever shite, but about 80% of the views he expresses are based purely on trying to second guess the electorate, barely a moral stance taken even once, everything is just 'we'd get hammered for it' or 'we knew that would go down very well', just an astonishing bubble these fuckers live in. I'd love to write a review of it but I can't cos of working for civil service, lol.
Along the way there are a few funny stories and one or two bits where you're laughing with him, not at him. Like when he says something about Andrew Bridgen getting fired for insane covid comments and is like 'nobody minded, because he is a massive knob'.
Or another story of him getting a call at 3am from some unnamed MP who says he met a woman he thinks is a KGB agent and is now in a room below a club in Bayswater with twelve naked women.
― LocalGarda, Saturday, 8 March 2025 09:56 (eight months ago)
xpostgot a link? dreading what hell is coming my way
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 8 March 2025 09:57 (eight months ago)
I dare not even look at that stuff rn. These people are grotesque. I hope next time Starmer is doing a photo op with Zelensky, a stray shard of cluster bomb melts his fucking face off!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 8 March 2025 09:57 (eight months ago)
https://www.itv.com/news/2025-03-07/government-to-make-6bn-welfare-savings-with-benefits-shake-up
ITN reported this last night. it's not official as yet
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 March 2025 10:08 (eight months ago)
the disabled component of UC is already stingy, the PIP assessments are already a kafkaesque nightmare. Yeah lets make it stingier and harder to claim because we are subhuman scumbags who care not a jot about humanity. This will likely be another bloodbath, comparable with when PIP was first brought in. It's too fucking depressing to even think about.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 8 March 2025 10:30 (eight months ago)
beyond even the alleged money-saving aspect of it, the idea that able bodied people seeking work get a higher UC rate than disabled people, who should get less than they need to live on is purely evil and punitive. I can just imagine that ghoul Kendall justifying this. Genuinely hope she dies in a car crash.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 8 March 2025 10:42 (eight months ago)
i can't work out from what's being said here whether they mean they'll reduce the disability component of UC that gets paid to people who've been found to have limited capability for work-related activity - already a minority of people with limited capability for work - or if they're proposing an actual lower tier of UC for everybody found to have limited capability. doesn't explain how that will be assessed either, continuing work capability assessments or what?
yeah people will suffer and die, well done on getting the Tories out everybody
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 March 2025 11:00 (eight months ago)
yeah so far the UC info is not specific. As it already exists, I have read people with serious health or MH conditions who have stated that the PIP assessment was such a stressful and dehumanising ordeal that it made their condition worse. Fancy thinking we've got a soft-touch disability benefits system in the UK.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 8 March 2025 11:12 (eight months ago)
I've given up repeatedly pointing out that PIP is also an in-work benefit that actually allows disabled people to maintain a job
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 March 2025 11:18 (eight months ago)
it's so deeply wound into the Labour Party ideology that anyone on benefits are scrounging scum that this completely eludes them. They don't even pretend it's an in-work benefit to pay for the extra costs that being disabled runs up.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 8 March 2025 11:21 (eight months ago)
Labour are probably the worst proponents of the lies about the benefit system. Simple fact: nobody recieving out of work benefits is a missing part of the economic landscape, they're a built in element of how the economy runs, surplus labour at best, and the money they do get goes straight back into the economy at its most fundamental level
The scrounging narrative will never g the turned on its head and the pronouncements of the Labour Party are a bit part of the reason for that
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 March 2025 11:32 (eight months ago)
Big part of the reason for that, must have a melt phone
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 March 2025 11:33 (eight months ago)
Change.
The crazy thing about Labour cutting all these benefits is that these benefits are the very ones that survived nearly 20 years of the Conservatives.— Dr Jan (@DrRavioliPoly) March 8, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 March 2025 10:46 (eight months ago)
Must kill Russians now though.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 March 2025 11:37 (eight months ago)
what a legacy Kieth is going to have. Managing to be responsible for the worst UK austerity in half a century, after 15 years of tory rule. Him debasing himself at the feet of Trump in the most embarrassing fashion, for literally no diplomatic gains or US concessions at all. Just literally doing because it is all he knows how to do because he is a pathetic little shit!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 9 March 2025 12:14 (eight months ago)
shame that these two cunts weren't thrown into the sea instead tbh
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/mar/10/uk-couple-fined-1500-after-reporting-channel-stowaway-found-in-motorhome
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Monday, 10 March 2025 21:33 (seven months ago)
I had no idea you could be fined for that, cheered my day up no end to hear these Tory fuckers dobbed themselves in. So is it illegal to slaughter someone you find quivering in your boot instead?
― the patron saint of epilepsy and beekeepers (Matt #2), Monday, 10 March 2025 21:50 (seven months ago)
Former Bristol West MP and shadow culture secretary, Thangam Debbonaire, is sworn into the House of Lords as Baroness Debbonaire
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 March 2025 13:36 (seven months ago)
Automation and consultancy already play a role in govt.
Don't the Government Digital Service already do this? My suspicion is that this will be a drive to sideline that service and replace it with consultants and snake oil salesmen. https://t.co/FDAoH4ReZJ— Steve (@untilnextyear) March 13, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 March 2025 13:03 (seven months ago)
they actually beefed up gds hugely recently so i am not sure that is the case. this may not be true but the word i heard is that a lot of this is going to be back office type stuff and not the public-facing services so much.
however i think the rhetoric will be like a drop of blood in the water for the big five piranhas who are already chomping at the bit to bilk government departments for some bullshit magic beans ai and walk off into the sunset after it fails.
it's not that ai can never work or has no use just that like any gov tool or tech the uses must be clear and the integration and design and strategy must be planned across many existing and future things.
the most senior politician in the country announcing 'let's spend a fuckload of money on this new type of tech' is like walking down a dark lane at night in a suit made of cash, with a ghetto blaster playing a song you made called 'steal from me please'
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 13 March 2025 13:53 (seven months ago)
The companies that want the contracts have bought govt ministers their lunches etc., and will line them up with jobs once they lose the next election. Its all p depressing but not exactly shocking.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 March 2025 13:56 (seven months ago)
envisaging keir starmer as a flustered store worker flapping about on the automated checkouts, orange light lit on every single one, held up as he tries to get the discount to read on a scrunched up bag of sprouts
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Thursday, 13 March 2025 13:57 (seven months ago)
tale as old as time - the only diff now is they've come up with a big new swizz to yet again make at least some bits of gov, enough for huge waste, to think they have to start all over again
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 13 March 2025 14:17 (seven months ago)
Labour had a majority of 14,696 in the Cheshire constituency at the general election, with 53% of the vote. Reform UK were in second place (18%), and the Conservatives in third place (16%).But the first byelection poll from the constituency, out this morning, suggests Reform UK are on course to win. It has been carried out by Lord Ashcroft, a former Tory deputy chair who has been commissioning and publishing high-quality polling for years, and it also suggests the Tories are on course to be completely overshadowed by Nigel Farage’s party.Here is an extract from the Ashcroft summary.Reform are ahead of Labour by 40% to 35% when we weight respondents according to their stated likelihood to turn out and vote at the by-election, with the Conservatives in third place on 10%. This represents a 20% swing from Labour to Reform since the general election.However, when we include only those who say they are certain to vote, the Reform lead rises to 9 points (42% to 33%) – a 22% swing since July.Only just over half (55%) of Labour’s general election voters say they will definitely vote, compared to 78% of 2024 Reform voters and 70% of Tories. Labour’s chances of holding the seat therefore depend on persuading as many of possible of their supporters from last July to return to the ballot box.
But the first byelection poll from the constituency, out this morning, suggests Reform UK are on course to win. It has been carried out by Lord Ashcroft, a former Tory deputy chair who has been commissioning and publishing high-quality polling for years, and it also suggests the Tories are on course to be completely overshadowed by Nigel Farage’s party.
Here is an extract from the Ashcroft summary.
Reform are ahead of Labour by 40% to 35% when we weight respondents according to their stated likelihood to turn out and vote at the by-election, with the Conservatives in third place on 10%. This represents a 20% swing from Labour to Reform since the general election.
However, when we include only those who say they are certain to vote, the Reform lead rises to 9 points (42% to 33%) – a 22% swing since July.
Only just over half (55%) of Labour’s general election voters say they will definitely vote, compared to 78% of 2024 Reform voters and 70% of Tories. Labour’s chances of holding the seat therefore depend on persuading as many of possible of their supporters from last July to return to the ballot box.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 March 2025 14:05 (seven months ago)
"Labour desperate for a private sector solution to avoid the biggest unravelling of a Thatcher privatisation."
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/mar/14/thames-water-asks-ofwat-to-be-spared-fines-costs
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 March 2025 21:21 (seven months ago)
My water bill for the next year just came, huge jump in price from last year’s £179. Single people in small flats generally have low bills, but a few years ago my water was included in my rent, and was maybe £10/month tops.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 14 March 2025 21:37 (seven months ago)
My TW bill increase is well over 35% fuck these clowns
― nashwan, Friday, 14 March 2025 22:58 (seven months ago)
Always good to know we’re charged half of the bill to have our waste water pumped to the nearest blue flag beach!
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 14 March 2025 23:00 (seven months ago)
A woman with the musical taste of a 9yr old schoolgirl is making everyone’s life miserable I hate it here https://t.co/qt1BF0zVhw— Congolesa Rice (@judeinlondon) March 14, 2025
Reeves has got layers, like a rotten onion - everything about her is just fucking horrible!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 16 March 2025 11:10 (seven months ago)
*an ilxor
― imago, Sunday, 16 March 2025 11:25 (seven months ago)
Rachel Reeves has a 13yo daughter who is probably just as basic as her mother.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Sunday, 16 March 2025 11:36 (seven months ago)
I have seen people weakly suggesting that she may have only accepted the freebie tickets as not to cause offence to Sabrina Carpenter. Which is not really taking into account her history of being a freeloading, fraudulent so and so.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 16 March 2025 11:36 (seven months ago)
It would definitely be an international incident if she refused tickets for Sabrina Carpenter, someone who absolutely knows who Reeves is and is very invested in her attending her concert.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 16 March 2025 12:18 (seven months ago)
They just say anything to see what sticks: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/mar/16/wes-streeting-there-is-overdiagnosis-of-mental-health-conditions
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 16 March 2025 18:03 (seven months ago)
if ever there was someone looking short of diagnosis, it certainly could be a valid criticism of that fucked up personality disorder on legs. He has anger issues, boundary issues, he bullies women ... some might even say he's an outright fucking psychopath!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 16 March 2025 19:32 (seven months ago)
Private healthcare is full of people with no medical training at all. Wes has been talking to his friends in private healthcare too much, as he would not normally say something so stupid. https://t.co/f0hAe7kuuE— Diane Abbott (@HackneyAbbott) March 17, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 March 2025 14:24 (seven months ago)
no words for the repulsion i'm feeling:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/mar/17/keir-starmer-to-unveil-drastic-disability-benefit-cuts-despite-opposition
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Monday, 17 March 2025 21:17 (seven months ago)
in Scotland the agency responsible for the administration of disability benefits (Social Security Scotland not DWP) have launched a campaign basically themed around "do you know what you're entitled to? have you checked?" positive encouragement. But it means nothing when the nationwide rhetoric is to treat anyone with a health condition as subhuman scum. I'm so sorry for anyone who is having to deal with the stress and fear of this national conversation.
― boxedjoy, Monday, 17 March 2025 21:33 (seven months ago)
Diane is wrong on this one.Streeting says stupid shit a lot.
― nashwan, Monday, 17 March 2025 21:38 (seven months ago)
Um…
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 03:19 (seven months ago)
I have a newsfeed saying ‘crackdown’ on disability claimants. Have you ever seen a newsflash on a ‘crackdown’ on super rich tax havens and non-payment?— Michael Rosen 💙💙🎓🎓 NICE 爷爷 (@MichaelRosenYes) March 17, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 March 2025 09:25 (seven months ago)
Good on Diane Abbott.
To be clear, there is no U-turn. Postponing the freeze on PIP payments, while continuing with a host of other cuts would be completely cosmetic. The claims of a U-turn are served up to hoodwink the gullible.https://t.co/1cxiHVkx5c— Diane Abbott (@HackneyAbbott) March 18, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 March 2025 11:46 (seven months ago)
When the minimum outcome of this seems to be stripping PIP from a million people and this horror is spun as a U-turn by the usual suspects. Would like to tell people who live under dictatorships that "the free press" is a great concept and sounds good on paper, but you wont find anything resembling it in the UK.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 12:05 (seven months ago)
Prob less obvious election rigging in your average ex Soviet republic
― triste et cassé (gyac), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 12:07 (seven months ago)
NEW: Liz Kendall, the welfare secretary, announces £5bn of benefits cuts, with the bulk coming from tightening eligibility for personal independent payments, the key disability benefit not linked to work.The changes mean that only the most severely disabled will qualify. Claimants will need to score four points in at least one activity to qualify for the daily living allowance.
― triste et cassé (gyac), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 13:10 (seven months ago)
there will likely be PIP claimants that will have to stop working because of these cuts. Some that will just stop living. The language they have been using like "unfair" is pandering to the worst kind of ignorance about disabilities and attempting to spin social murder as a moral choice. These people are officially now worse and more evil than the scumbag Tories were, during 14 years of austerity.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 13:20 (seven months ago)
This basically means they will be eliminating the "Standard" rate of PIP. You need 8-11 points for the Standard Daily Living component and 8-12 for the Standard Mobility component to be awarded, and if you score over those points you get Enhanced. You get two points for an activity if you can use aids and appliances, and four if you need assistance. If you need assistance to cook a meal then you likely need assistance to wash and to bathe. This will completely demotivate people to attempt to live independently. People will say they can't use a perching stool or a bath board or a shower seat because they'll not qualify for an award with using these kind of devices.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 18 March 2025 14:26 (seven months ago)
This is a seminal moment: a Labour government cutting disability benefits. Not just continuing Tory levels. Cutting.This comes after a week of speculation, itself an act of cruelty by a government toying with people’s dignity.These cuts are disgraceful - and will cost lives.— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) March 18, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 March 2025 14:49 (seven months ago)
Thames Water are having bailouts of billions just this week.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 March 2025 14:51 (seven months ago)
It really is obscene to be policing the small comforts of the people who need this support while shovelling endless funds to kill children thousands of miles away
― triste et cassé (gyac), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 14:52 (seven months ago)
“Wahhhh why don’t you vote in the UK” - stupidest take of all time
My god @ this points system. From a locked account on twitter.
"my mum, is a wheelchair user who currently gets PIP points for needing aids/adaptations to cook, wash, dress and use the toilet. However, most of these give 2 points for each activity and the one that gives more only gives 3 points. She wouldn't be eligible anymore"
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 March 2025 14:55 (seven months ago)
I might not have been paying attention but has anyone in this government ever really outlined what jobs they supposedly want to get people back in to? Retail is dead. Non-specialist clerical work, customer support, etc, is going to be decimated by AI. There are vacancies in areas like elderly care, the prison service, farming, logistics, etc but they tend to be physically demanding and there are already more unemployed people than there are jobs available. Wages are already depressed. Is anyone going to be trained for anything specific?
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 18 March 2025 18:54 (seven months ago)
Hairdressing and yoga studios as far as the eye can see
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 March 2025 19:06 (seven months ago)
A thousand consultants for each and every client
― the patron saint of epilepsy and beekeepers (Matt #2), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 19:19 (seven months ago)
the dignity of labour will save them from a broken benefits system that was preventing them from getting ahead. That's literally what Kendall was saying, which is so thoughtless and wrong that it is quite plain to see there is no strategy here other than more wanton destruction to what remains of the social safety net, without any strategy or consideration other than counting how much money it saves.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 19:20 (seven months ago)
disabled ppl should be out picking potatoes obv
― the babality of evil (wins), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 19:25 (seven months ago)
I'd love to hear more about the dignity of labour from a posh Oxbridge graduate to Labour MP career person, who probably hasn't lifted a fucking finger in her life.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 19:36 (seven months ago)
This is fucking shameful. What does one *do* with anger like this? How much do people have to suffer for the sake of some cheap optics? I'm murderous enough as it is at the demeaning hell my boy had to go through for his pitiful PIP payments - the bureaucracy, the invasive questions, the house visits, the multiple-stage appeals process that took us nearly a year - payments that have helped transform his life - but to think he's likely to be refused at the next juncture because his illness is largely invisible and so poorly understood?
Goes without saying I'm glad I didn't vote for them, no matter how many friends and colleagues on the left (yeh, right) were adamant the party would swing left once they got in (how many red flags did you need?). Fuck this party forever.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 20:51 (seven months ago)
OTM
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 20:51 (seven months ago)
Evil evil evil fucking bastards.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 18 March 2025 20:53 (seven months ago)
yep
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 20:53 (seven months ago)
💯
― the babality of evil (wins), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 20:59 (seven months ago)
Why did we vote the Tories out?
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 March 2025 21:09 (seven months ago)
their cruelty was no longer efficient
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 21:16 (seven months ago)
everyone is otm. 'dignity of labour' is such a give away that whomever evokes it has never done a shitty job in their life. i know when i look frwd to my retirement by which time my body will be semi broken i'm going to look back with pride at my years stacking shelves.
― oscar bravo, Tuesday, 18 March 2025 21:19 (seven months ago)
I feel like people will notice this, they can't not
― imago, Tuesday, 18 March 2025 22:48 (seven months ago)
I've seen Torsten Bell on twitter for years talk about austerity and its effects on poverty. Look at this cunt now.
“Could you live on £70 a week?”“Absolutely not”“So why do you expect young people to?”“We won't”@vicderbyshire challenges DWP minister Torsten Bell on benefit reform.#Newsnight pic.twitter.com/mEbBnT92Aq— BBC Newsnight (@BBCNewsnight) March 18, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 March 2025 07:42 (seven months ago)
Sir Keir said the current system had "wreaked a terrible human cost"
sure Keith, now tell me how this human is supposed to pay the terrible cost of this ludicrous water bill I just got in the post, cos cutting my benefits is not gonna help with that
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 19 March 2025 08:54 (seven months ago)
They are trying to gaslight us that this cut is actually an improvement! wtf
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 March 2025 08:56 (seven months ago)
I've applied for a lower tariff through my water company's support scheme, if it is a successful application then it will still be significantly higher than last year but slightly less of a fucking, it's worth a try.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 19 March 2025 14:14 (seven months ago)
There's really no depths to which this mob won't sink.
https://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/news/dwp-plans-bank-account-surveillance-likely-breach-privacy-law-and-could-amount-unlawful
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 March 2025 15:16 (seven months ago)
feels very naive to point out that there was no commitment to demolishing this terrible broken benefits system in their manifesto. honesty is the old politics.
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 March 2025 16:43 (seven months ago)
Liz Kendall put this forward 10 yrs ago and got 4% of the vote in the leadership election. She learned to keep it quiet.
― fetter, Wednesday, 19 March 2025 17:15 (seven months ago)
We can't say that we weren't warned. pic.twitter.com/zyk3PRsz0k— Plutôt la Barbie (@plutotlabarbie) March 19, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 March 2025 19:25 (seven months ago)
Have to laugh at Labour mooting changes to law based on a Netflix series, after all the post office stuff. While it may be good that anything can move the needle at all, it is frankly fucking weird that the government dgaf about anything until it's become a popular TV drama. Also the Netflix thing has a murder in it, it's genuinely like a murder in a TV drama is worth more than the many real murders that happen.
Of course Starmer is like, in parliament, saying he watched the show "with his kids" because this is the most important issue of the day, what has been happening in a dramatisation on Netflix.
Everything they do is based on their insular, jaundiced view of what people care about, the actual thing is secondary, as evidenced by them shovelling through the disability cuts at the same time, until such time as someone writes a sexy drama about that, tho maybe that'll be harder since the murder is by the state.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 12:53 (seven months ago)
he's such a terrible, corny as fuck writer is Stephen G, and often an overrated actor imo. Might have known this burning topic of the week drama would be spot on for another of Kieth's fake-human turns in parliament. What a cunt.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 March 2025 13:39 (seven months ago)
Glad someone else said it cos I criticised him on socials a few years back and it's like I'd insulted someone's deeply held religious beliefs. He plays the same constipated character in almost every show.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 13:43 (seven months ago)
A normal man, who is losing it a bit and might cry or even fly into a rage.
Hopefully Starmer will catch up with his work in Venom: Let There Be Carnage and Venom: The Last Dance next, excited for the changes in legislation that might emerge.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 20 March 2025 13:45 (seven months ago)
I've liked him in some things, but he's become so famous and powerful now, he can write absolute drivel like this and play the same the same character again .. to lots of acclaim it seems.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 March 2025 13:45 (seven months ago)
Poll:
He appeared in the music videos for "I Remember" by Deadmau5 and Kaskade,[11] "Fluorescent Adolescent" and "When the Sun Goes Down" by Arctic Monkeys, "Unlovable" by Babybird (directed by Johnny Depp), and Gazelle's single "Finger on the Trigger".[12] Graham appeared in the music video "Soul Vampire" by Macclesfield-based neo-psychedelic band The Virginmarys, the music video for "Turn" by Travis, and Kasabian's video "You're in Love with a Psycho". He appeared as an inmate within the open prison system in the music video for Goldie's "I Adore You" in 2017, and also starred in Sam Fender's music video for "Spit of You", in which he plays Fender's father.[13]
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 20 March 2025 13:47 (seven months ago)
Sir Keir has a lot of viewing to do, however he is going to enjoy some wonderful music in the process.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 13:56 (seven months ago)
Also I guess he didn't consult his friend Johnny Depp when making his vital and urgent manosphere viral drama.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 13:57 (seven months ago)
cmon hating on steven graham, has it come to this? don’t let them turn us against each other brothers and sisters
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 20 March 2025 13:59 (seven months ago)
a thread in which i claim to enjoy SG's work yet seem strangely unpersuaded:are there any accents STEPHEN GRAHAM will not attempt (stephen graham appreciation thread, haters tolerated)
― mark s, Thursday, 20 March 2025 14:06 (seven months ago)
haha the turning point for me was that chef drama, turned into a mini-series. "Eh, who moved me tea towel???"
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 20 March 2025 14:07 (seven months ago)
ok, he was pretty good in The Irishman. Just to give him some credit!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 March 2025 14:13 (seven months ago)
I don't know how Kieth can even face his own kids after kneeling down at the feet of Trump and JD Vance and being completely passive and grovelling while they openly took the piss out of him for half an hour, ending with Trump curtly telling him to shut up when he had the temerity to start talking above a whimper. Oh sorry, I meant that masterclass in statecraft that the UK media lapped up.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 March 2025 14:25 (seven months ago)
I can't remember him in the Irishman but I'm sure Rip Van Winkle doesn't remember every dream he had during his hundred-year sleep either.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 15:15 (seven months ago)
that's a sure sign that he put in a good shift - you didn't even notice the cunt!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 March 2025 15:32 (seven months ago)
I don't remember it having a plotline involving a Liverpudlian man in a world where everything is an episode of The Bill.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 15:33 (seven months ago)
Haha
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 15:34 (seven months ago)
he had to be split up from a fight he was winning against Al Pacino in a prison, it was quite atypical SG, not like a scouse doorman at all!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 March 2025 15:40 (seven months ago)
I actually thought it was p good but feel like I watched it during lockdown so just memory-holed it all.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 15:41 (seven months ago)
yeah, a great movie.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 March 2025 15:42 (seven months ago)
tbh i keep assuming Graham is a huge melt and i think it's just cos he seems Marsan-adjacent
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 March 2025 16:56 (seven months ago)
It's maybe a personal thing but I fucking hate the self-regarding praise that a lot of average British drama gets, and he's usually in all of them, as if it's the last rubber stamp of quality. I also hate drama that feels like it's made for journalists or newsrooms or whatever, I always feel that's a UK thing, the same TV companies that have large news operations also make the drama.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 17:00 (seven months ago)
Accepting his new one is Netflix but let's face it prob only cos they outbid BBC or ITV.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 17:01 (seven months ago)
#onechannel
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 March 2025 17:02 (seven months ago)
A lot of stupid twitter posting seems to suggest he does a lot of these *gritty* *difficult* roles because he has depth - rather than it being more a case of lazily reprising the same shit, and also this latest netflix series is *important* - what like a GP appointment? If I was SG, the Starmer endorsement would be alarming. Fucking multiple alarms flashing!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 March 2025 17:25 (seven months ago)
the praise for SG is a bit like the praise for Shane Meadows to me - a horrible movie director and I detested all his movies. And then I'd see posters that I thought were normally sharp and on the ball - declaring Dead Man's Shoes as the greatest British movie of all time.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 March 2025 17:32 (seven months ago)
I can't stand the Meadows stuff, I just don't get this stuff and the fact people love it makes me more conscious of my own particular dislike.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 17:34 (seven months ago)
hah, if you don't Meadows at all it can fester into hatred. A lefty shitposter I follow on twitter whose posting on UK politics was always solid and thoughtful. He once posted some long one-take sequence from Dead Man's Shoes and did a one word post on it w/ something like "iconic" and got about 8k of likes/rts for it. That's when I realised I will always be shit at the numbers game on social media!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 March 2025 17:46 (seven months ago)
oh man the aesthetic opinions of the average shitposter are nearly enough to make me join some wacky "bring back the divine right of kings" cell
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 March 2025 17:49 (seven months ago)
i watched the first ep and it is wild how mundane it is, zero surprising details, they ride on a “this is what it would be like” vibe right til the credits roll, which works ok i guess - my kids were riveted - they maintain the tone of tension. but me.. i mean i’ve seen line of duty (feat. stephen graham lol) and give me action like that any day. by the time the tenth fingerprint gets scanned i was kinda like, do we need to see this level of detail? are we going watch somebody fill out a clipboard now? but i like graham’s pained, crisis-mode steez. i am embarrassed to say i thought his accent was welsh 😭
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 20 March 2025 17:50 (seven months ago)
It also bothers me like that there are actual real murders happening that are along these lines at the moment but there are also fictional choices being made for reasons of fiction.
Also the "it's done in one shot!!!" thing is just fucking dense. I've her to see anyone say why this automatically means it's good beyond wow some actors who can't perform live did shit that theatre actors do every night for three months.
A mate said "it does feel a bit like an episode of The Bill" and that nailed it for me in a far simpler way than I could manage.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 17:53 (seven months ago)
yet*
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 17:54 (seven months ago)
OTM all around. I especially despise the weird obsession w/ making dramas based on recent political events, I assume these are exclusively consumed by journos and wannabe journos.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 20 March 2025 17:55 (seven months ago)
Gritty BAFTA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTlRT7WJikU
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Thursday, 20 March 2025 17:58 (seven months ago)
Spot on. I worked in news and there's this centrist thing of dictating the conversation or assuming everyone who isn't you is a weirdo when increasingly they are the weirdos, as media fragments. This was true even ten or fifteen years ago. I'll always remember a BBC item on the live broadcast if the Obama election that was about two mins long and was like "now this election has also had a huge following... on the internet" practically holding their nose, and even then I thought you're the weirdos, the internet is the normal bit, TV news is dying.
An interesting exercise with shit like Adolescence or the post office one is to ask what subjects or issues will TV never make a drama about and why.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 17:59 (seven months ago)
Islamophobia in the Labour party
― student defenestration time (Matt #2), Thursday, 20 March 2025 18:06 (seven months ago)
Would watch that if it had Stephen Graham in it. Spiralling out angry and crying about the PLP or whatever.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 18:12 (seven months ago)
A lefty shitposter I follow on twitter whose posting on UK politics was always solid and thoughtful. He once posted some long one-take sequence from Dead Man's Shoes and did a one word post on it w/ something like "iconic" and got about 8k of likes/rts for it. That's when I realised I will always be shit at the numbers game on social media!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 March 2025 bookmarkflaglink
Meadows sounds a bit like Ken Loach iirc. Never wanted to see anything of his.
Lefty shitposters do have bad takes on films, maybe music too. Assume its to do with my age.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 March 2025 18:13 (seven months ago)
sorry to change the subject but some actual good news(!), especially if you too hate seb fucking coe…
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/mar/20/kirsty-coventry-elected-first-female-president-ioc-sebastian-coe-denied-vote
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Thursday, 20 March 2025 18:18 (seven months ago)
Loach began his career with some good work imo (price of coal, cathy come home, Kes). Meadows just sucked shit right from the off!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 March 2025 18:19 (seven months ago)
Liked Kes. And that kind of thing has its place in British cinema, but idk I've seen the story in 'This is England' being told on TV (docs or drama) and just didn't feel like it was worth the time.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 March 2025 18:23 (seven months ago)
the lovely Emma B thinks the police would never be that nice. i think she’s right. She also thinks they would never send like three trucks and a swat team with machine guns to a 13yo knife stabbing suspect’s house. It did seem a little over the top. I did wonder, like, what if the kid was black? and tall? but that’s less tabloidy somehow.
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 20 March 2025 18:28 (seven months ago)
The bit in dead mans shoes where the main guy is killing the other guy and he’s going ‘it’s ok it’s ok I’m just switching you off’ is very funny tbf. Not sure I’ve seen any other meadows. Adolescence was good and not shit imo and barring a few lines didn’t feel too Radio 4 or whatever. The kid in it was very good. Anyone talking about the ‘one shot’ aspect in either positive or negative terms is being very tedious I think. Also it’s not the fault of the programme that the UK political and media establishment is so insanely cringe and craven.
― crisp, Thursday, 20 March 2025 18:31 (seven months ago)
I turned it off near the end of the first episode but accept different opinions exist. Idk I obviously just hate this kind of storytelling. It's too on the nose for me, I like fiction as "hard exact truth told through beautiful elaborate lies".
I do think a deep analysis of what is or isn't real about it would be good not least because there's this bizarre obsession among some people where they crave drama that they feel is exactly and precisely real in every way and this usually means some subject so traumatic that any actual analysis or criticism feels trite or crass. I don't normally obsess over the gap between fiction and reality but if someone makes a show like this it kinda has to be analysed.
Agree the fact TV gets used for political gain is not programme's fault. I thought the post office one wasn't actually too bad despite again some weird shit about how a political message is allowed to land via drama, the way the villages were portrayed etc. I find it kinda fascinating.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 18:40 (seven months ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQZrNgbXwAUL-T2?format=jpg&name=900x900
I can't believe he didn't get an Emmy for this one shot tour de force as a doomed Russian Black Sea fleet captain, who got rarsed by Ukrainian drones!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 20 March 2025 19:36 (seven months ago)
"fuckin drones, noooo, argh" *angry/crying/manic*
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 19:50 (seven months ago)
Series ends with his wife making him breakfast, while he looks at a map of Ukraine and cries.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 20 March 2025 19:51 (seven months ago)
they seem very keen on Felt and Belle & Sebastian
― fetter, Thursday, 20 March 2025 19:53 (seven months ago)
Manic Street Preachere too.
Also forever obsessed with post punk but they're hardly the only ones.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 20 March 2025 19:54 (seven months ago)
Starmer posing on the deck of a clapped out old submarine, already past its designated end of life age. With rented nukes that can't be fired without permission of the Trump regime, or conversely if the unstable Trump regime decide to launch a nuclear attack on an adversary or even a friendly nation - then you may well have to fire as well, or is there any choice? (if they do actually work). He's unwittingly doing a better job than Corbyn did at exposing what an absolutely disgraceful waste of money Trident is and how much of a preposterous joke country the UK looks to the rest of the world when it occasionally tries to flex like it is a nuclear superpower.
I'm not saying it would be any better if they had independent nukes like France. Just remembering the response when Corbyn wouldn't commit to nuclear armageddon and was lukewarm about the continuation of Trident.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 21 March 2025 05:29 (seven months ago)
I don't think any of either France or the UK's nuclear weapons are tactical either. All are strategic. So the idea of any nuclear umbrella talk seems like it can't really be considered credible by either Poland OR Russia.
― anvil, Friday, 21 March 2025 05:47 (seven months ago)
https://i.postimg.cc/HnbP2S9d/Screenshot-20250321-162051-Reddit.jpg
I saw this today shortly after reading the Stephen G discussion on here from yesterday and just lost it, every shot on the ad when you swipe through is just someone ashen-faced and miserable, being crushed by the stunningly shocking and sad Events
[Limmy newsreader voice] a community struggles to find answers
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 21 March 2025 17:26 (seven months ago)
heh! It's so bad, it's so fucking corny, and lots of seemingly sane people are losing their shit over how much it moved them.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 21 March 2025 17:31 (seven months ago)
Maybe the logical evolution is a rolling news type setup where you can tune in whenever for round the clock footage of Stephen Graham sitting at a table with his head in his hands weeping bitterly, occasionally weakly banging a fist on the table and shouting "fuck...fuck!"
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 21 March 2025 17:35 (seven months ago)
Family WhatsApp survey: brother and dad liked it, mum didn't. I'll be avoiding
― imago, Friday, 21 March 2025 17:36 (seven months ago)
100% correlation between Spurs support and Adolescence support
― imago, Friday, 21 March 2025 17:37 (seven months ago)
I was going to get really sad and angry in an emotionally constipated way recently and start kicking doors and stuff and shouting oh fuck, but I relented at the idea of that guy ever playing a fictional version of me!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 21 March 2025 17:42 (seven months ago)
lmao at that picture. "we've fucking fucked it mate, phones! fucking phones!"
reminds me of my dad calling me up in an absolute rage during COVID cos he couldn't use the Irish passenger locator online thing. Not even a hello he just steamed into full rage about it, culminating in an amazing "I hate them, I hate all of them"
"All of what, Dad?"
"These... bloody... ... SITES"
could be a good Stephen Graham role highlighting the need for digital inclusion.
My mum must have had a word as he phoned the next day to apologize, and tbf it transpired he hits the space bar after finishing typing something and the Irish "site" was interpreting that as an invalid character and blocking him. Working in user experience means your family ask you why stuff doesn't work lol.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 21 March 2025 18:58 (seven months ago)
I just want to say that this SG/Sad Realism takedown is hugely cathartic for me. Might look sad thinking about modern society later
― Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 March 2025 19:01 (seven months ago)
I have to say ILX is a safe space for views which are legitimate but which people treat you like some deliberate contrarian or worse for expressing outside of ILX. Like I know deep down I think this stuff is shit, may be just my opinion but the world would have you think you can only like it.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 21 March 2025 19:08 (seven months ago)
When a respected teacher takes his own life after walking in on his newborn son being eaten by an escaped bear, an entire community struggles to imagine how a baby could ever come to laugh in a world such as this
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 21 March 2025 19:18 (seven months ago)
Stephen Graham stars as a man who gets his earphones caught on the handle of a kitchen cupboard, causing his world to fall apart as they rip from his ears and stop his music playing, in this chilling and realistic four-part drama.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 21 March 2025 19:52 (seven months ago)
So Angry That He Cries, Then Gets Angry Again, Then Cries, Stephen Graham's scintillating new drama.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 21 March 2025 19:54 (seven months ago)
Stubbed Toe starring Stephen Graham
― LocalGarda, Friday, 21 March 2025 20:01 (seven months ago)
xxpost with a sequel series of lower ratings where he forgets to charge his new wireless earbuds
― boxedjoy, Friday, 21 March 2025 20:22 (seven months ago)
https://media.gq-magazine.co.uk/photos/67cad8aa2f32e162e9036d48/16:9/w_2560%2Cc_limit/Adolescence_(UK)_n_S1_E1_00_37_21_15.jpg
― LocalGarda, Friday, 21 March 2025 20:34 (seven months ago)
― the babality of evil (wins), Friday, 21 March 2025 20:49 (seven months ago)
Incredibly annoying
― LocalGarda, Friday, 21 March 2025 20:49 (seven months ago)
When things get knocked over spill and fall out of cupboards &c
"Labour consider cupboard handle ban after Graham Netflix drama"
― LocalGarda, Friday, 21 March 2025 20:50 (seven months ago)
I’ve fully moved over to Bluetooth and will never go back, thankful to never experience the caught-yanked-out-of-ear again
― the babality of evil (wins), Friday, 21 March 2025 20:52 (seven months ago)
Yeah, same now.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 21 March 2025 20:53 (seven months ago)
Low Battery, Stephen Graham's world falls apart when... etc
― LocalGarda, Friday, 21 March 2025 20:54 (seven months ago)
omg I have so much to say about low battery
― the babality of evil (wins), Friday, 21 March 2025 20:55 (seven months ago)
They employed a different more annoying person to say low battery! What happened to “connected” lady I liked her
― the babality of evil (wins), Friday, 21 March 2025 20:56 (seven months ago)
I haven’t seen the programme sorry
― the babality of evil (wins), Friday, 21 March 2025 20:57 (seven months ago)
Itv drama
A really bad and sad thing happens, but in this case it happened to a middle class family....
― Mark G, Friday, 21 March 2025 21:03 (seven months ago)
What i'm picking up here is that kear starmer is going to make murder illegal cos of steven graham netflix drama which, fair play not before time
― SPENGE (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 21 March 2025 21:17 (seven months ago)
And having children will also be looked into, could align with the fiscal rules
― LocalGarda, Friday, 21 March 2025 21:25 (seven months ago)
5% is really too high.
Which of these is the most left-wing government?— Plutôt la Barbie (@plutotlabarbie) March 19, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 March 2025 23:51 (seven months ago)
https://i.postimg.cc/BvG7WdPw/Screenshot-20250323-112110-Reddit.jpg
This show will devastate you in 5 seconds guaranteed
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Sunday, 23 March 2025 11:34 (seven months ago)
fart provoking
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 23 March 2025 11:39 (seven months ago)
Unless you're a parent don't even try watching it, it's not for you.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 March 2025 11:41 (seven months ago)
it's particularly attuned to the special sensitivities of not very bright dadblokes with tribal tattoos
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 23 March 2025 11:44 (seven months ago)
is this different from WE NEED TO TALK ABT KEVIN (2011)
which to be clear i also didnt watch (lionel shriver klaxon)
― mark s, Sunday, 23 March 2025 12:38 (seven months ago)
that's based on a book from from pre phones bad era so the kid's fucked upness is an Endless Mystery, tho probably the consequence of his mother not loving him enough, from what I've gleaned of the plot
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 23 March 2025 12:43 (seven months ago)
Famous for having the most incomprehensible final line in movie history!
Tilda: I just need to know why you did itSon: uuuunn...uugh...ugh...hkk (trans.: I used to know...but I forgot)
― student defenestration time (Matt #2), Sunday, 23 March 2025 12:49 (seven months ago)
watch Stephen Graham get DESTROYED by the worrying actions of his child
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 23 March 2025 12:52 (seven months ago)
if you really want to be devastated on netflix, just watch that one about the woman who got catfished by her cousin for 9 years
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 23 March 2025 18:09 (seven months ago)
"it makes psychological sense to assume that the party has been hijacked by neoliberal entryists, much as it was in the 1990s, but this presumes some social democratic golden age when Labour governments didn't cut benefits or kowtowed to the Treasury."
https://fromarsetoelbow.blogspot.com/2025/03/this-is-what-labour-government-does.html
I have to restrain myself from sharing Timoney's stuff too often but this is another solid bit of history/analysis
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 March 2025 09:38 (seven months ago)
it's a continuum tho innit
even the corbyn project would look like pretty timid social democracy to 20th century leftists
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 24 March 2025 11:23 (seven months ago)
absolutely, but i think the point of that is "maybe people shouldn't get too invested in the hope of Corbyn 2"
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 March 2025 12:20 (seven months ago)
I've heard a few people who don't normally talk politics much mention how much they despise Starmer and Reeves, need to get these people to a focus group, pronto.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 24 March 2025 13:50 (seven months ago)
I know we are not surprised by these vile cunts around these parts, but it will be brutal for people who thought Labour would mean there was a pause in this shit.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 18:17 (seven months ago)
I was expecting something like a repeat of the Theresa May govt, drab/grey and solidly committed to maintaining the austerity consensus with lots of sneaky stealth cuts going on under the radar, a steady diet of gruel and societal decay. But them openly taking a chainsaw to disability benefits and trying to spin what will be a bloodbath as a moral decision is kind of much more fucked up and evil than anything even I expected from these psychos tbh.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 26 March 2025 18:35 (seven months ago)
hey let's give them their due, they've also been busy fining universities for having policies to protect trans people...
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/mar/26/university-of-sussex-fined-freedom-of-speech-investigation-kathleen-stock
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Wednesday, 26 March 2025 18:45 (seven months ago)
just insane decision. half a million! poor kathleen stock. doesn’t feel good to be ostracised, have i got that right?
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 20:32 (seven months ago)
they're taking every policy from the tory right and saying how can we make this more horrible, more punitive, more socially regressive? who even wants this shit apart from absolutely hateful cunts? who are they trying to appeal to?
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Wednesday, 26 March 2025 20:46 (seven months ago)
Main melt in my social circle is still posting pictures of his passport cue with "thanks brexit!!" and sharing macros about all the great stuff labour has Gotten Done while the torys Didn't Get Anything Done. I know it is the most boring thing in the world to talk about echo chambers but it does feel like he's just living in a different universe.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 26 March 2025 21:11 (seven months ago)
hiroo onoda kept fighting WW2 until 1974 which was approximately when the UK joined the EUmaybe to complete this dark historicaL cycle we need to go to war with japan again so we can get some sort of closure for those still fighting the brexit wars?
anyway it sounds like my wife will lose her PIP, but it'll be in a few years time when that gets reviewed i think so maybe our kids will be semi-independent when that happens and it won't hit too hard. which is lucky for us. whole thing is going to fuck so many people's lives up though, just fucking brutal
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Wednesday, 26 March 2025 22:04 (seven months ago)
even from a cold economic perspective, all the extra pressure and costs these cuts will exert on NHS/social care will just shift the spending savings elsewhere. But then again Reeves hasn't ever been an economist in the private sector, just an expense fiddling low-ranking office moron who found the Labour MP route a much easier path for career advancement. Genuinely hope she dies, painfully and slowly.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 March 2025 06:29 (seven months ago)
Rachel Reeves has revealed she makes herself a modest lunch during her working day - as it's "much better value than going to Pret".
gosh, who could believe someone who fiddles bottles of Cristal on expenses, runs up £400 bills at a posh restaurant in Leeds (then thriftily demands service charge is removed) and flies on the most expensive business class seat on a Wall St pilgrimage could be so thrifty. Thank you for this sick making fanfic, feckless, grovelling UK media.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 March 2025 06:56 (seven months ago)
Main melt in my social circle is still posting pictures of his passport cue with "thanks brexit!!" and sharing macros about all the great stuff labour has Gotten Done while the torys Didn't Get Anything Done.
What actually are these things? Interesting if there's specificity
― anvil, Thursday, 27 March 2025 07:06 (seven months ago)
a good question for Eddie Marsan
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 27 March 2025 07:08 (seven months ago)
junior doctors pay, i think might be one. train drivers too? rwanda cancellation? (not that there was much to cancel there - more mps went to rwanda than immigrants)
― koogs, Thursday, 27 March 2025 08:13 (seven months ago)
there is a list here, which reads like a press release, and a lot of which i wouldn't categorise as good
https://eastangliabylines.co.uk/politics/the-first-6-months-what-has-labour-actually-done/
― koogs, Thursday, 27 March 2025 08:19 (seven months ago)
i did doublecheck but being an accessory to the murder of tens of thousands of palestinians seems to be missing from that list?
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 27 March 2025 08:25 (seven months ago)
When someone is listing actual things (rather than vibes stuff like "adults back in the room") that Labour has "got done" that the Conservatives didn't I'm curious what they're seeing
― anvil, Thursday, 27 March 2025 08:40 (seven months ago)
But them openly taking a chainsaw to disability benefits and trying to spin what will be a bloodbath as a moral decision is kind of much more fucked up and evil than anything even I expected from these psychos tbh.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 26 March 2025 bookmarkflaglink
I think a lot of it is that they don't give a shit. The argument around pocket money is them not even wanting to understand the system.
Chancellor tells @IainDale she pays her kids between five and ten pounds a week eachAnd backs Darren Jones who compared cutting benefits to slashing pocket money for kids Rachel Reeves: "If you have a 16 yr old and say, I won't give you so much pocket money, I want you to go…— Natasha Clark (@NatashaC) March 26, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 March 2025 08:45 (seven months ago)
And if it is pocket money, why even bother with cutting it?
You can ask these things, line up some logic, but in the end they have the votes too. And unlike May, they had no Brexit as a distraction. There are still weirdoes out there like Toynbee who are writing about Brexit as a stopper on growth.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 March 2025 08:51 (seven months ago)
Have Labour just decided that ‘it’s like pocket money’ is the official way to talk about benefits now
― crisp, Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:07 (seven months ago)
Hell really can’t come quickly enough for these people
― crisp, Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:08 (seven months ago)
I don’t think the U.K. is particularly unique in this regard but it doesn’t look like anyone has much of an idea how to meaningfully grow the economy and the existing, very modest, projections are probably already optimistic.
https://on.ft.com/3XWoNsP
Short of rapid, unexpected growth you’re going to have a combination of higher taxes and higher borrowing without any tangible improvement in public services.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:10 (seven months ago)
I couldn't be more a lay person on economics but it is hard not to feel the last two or three years of "inflation has gone up, time to leave interest rates as they are" or vice versa represents some deep technical knowledge or exciting plan for the future.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:22 (seven months ago)
hard to feel*
well anvil did ask
*Announced a budget to restore stability
*Unveiled a plan for our NHS so you get seen sooner (waiting no longer than 18 weeks from referal to treatment)
*Announced a plan to deliver 1.5 Million homes
*Launched Great British Energy to bring bills down, create good jobs and deliver energy security.
*Announced a plan to raise the minimum wage, giving 3 million people a pay rise
*Secured 63 billions of private investment to boost growth, meaning more money in your pocket
*Agreed a deal with Junior Doctors to end the strikes
*Started rolling out funded Breakfast Clubs so children are ready to learn when they start school.
*Began strenghtening out protection for victims of domestic abuse.
*Started getting our railways back into public control.
*Recommited 3 billion a year to military support for Ukraine
*Introduced landmark legislation to crack down on rogue water bosses who pollute our water.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:26 (seven months ago)
of course the future will be exciting! it'll all be AI and drones hunting down people with disabilities to make sure they're feeling nothing but intense dispair 24hrs a day
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:28 (seven months ago)
"began strengthening out" is some real out till 2am last night gotta update the morning meeting on a ticket type language
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:29 (seven months ago)
Yes I notice quite a lot here is "begin to," or "announce a plan to", which isn't actually Getting Things Done. Mind you a lot of the things listed also seem like very bad ideas so maybe that's for the best.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:34 (seven months ago)
if i may, with some relevant experience, but its the language of: my manager read what i said we might do in the draft plan, sent it back saying "make this a lot more deniable when it doesnt happen"
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:36 (seven months ago)
xp the art of the shadow govt is to keep necessary things happening and keep the current govts ideas at bay for as long as possible until proven or forgotten tbph
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:37 (seven months ago)
"but it doesn’t look like anyone has much of an idea how to meaningfully grow the economy"
Germany are militarizing again ;-)
That piece weirdly doesn't mention the potential impact on climate change. The UK will have to spend much on flood mitigation. That will have more of an impact than a potential attack by Russia.
Also feels like there are very few thinkers out there with ideas on how to change the direction of the economy. 'Degrowth' feels like a weird debate at the margins, and anyway there is no political backing for it rn.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:37 (seven months ago)
A further impact is Thames Water. Reckon we will need to borrow quite a lot to either bail them out or get them back in public hands.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:43 (seven months ago)
Degrowth considerably more mainstream on the continent tbh, a lot of talk about it whenever I go to France, but yeah political backing seems unlikely.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:43 (seven months ago)
An actual person lists these?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOAL1LXXUAEeA04?format=jpg&name=small
― anvil, Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:43 (seven months ago)
- Announce plans to buy boots - Began plans to walk past shop looking in window at boots - Started comparing boot prices online - Agreed plan with partner to walk past boot shop
― anvil, Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:45 (seven months ago)
All of this means there will probably enable tax rises and or abandon these fiscal rules. They could've easily put taxes up (making sure the richest got a lot of it, say) at the beginning of parliament but it wouldn't surprise if they did this in the middle of parliament. They have v little political capital as it is now. Big geniuses xps
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:48 (seven months ago)
Looking for anything worth anything, is nationalising the railways going to bring fares down? Is it actually happening or is it some form of well but nationalisation that doesn't equate to anything that the word implies to normal people.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 27 March 2025 09:57 (seven months ago)
Secured 63 billions of private investment to boost growth, meaning more money in your pocket
Thanks for explaining economics to me, Labour Party.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 27 March 2025 10:03 (seven months ago)
Yeah noticed they didn't fuck around begining to announce a plan to grab that cash.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 27 March 2025 10:08 (seven months ago)
Theoretically, there have already been 40bn of tax increases on employer national insurance contributions, CGT and inheritance but it does look like more is likely in the Autumn. There does seem to be a perceived limit on how far you can push top rates of tax, corporation tax or wealth taxes without capital flight, so you wouldn’t necessarily discount the possibility of an increase on the base rate.
Nationalisation will absolutely not reduce fares. I think, at best, it’s projected to save the fairly modest fees the government is currently paying franchises for management.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 27 March 2025 10:10 (seven months ago)
Private Eye on rail nationalisation and fares:Labour's new plan for creating Great British Railways as the network's "directing mind" says the reformed system will be "affordable - so that prices are kept, wherever possible, at a point that works for both passengers and taxpayers" Ticket revenue and subsidy have to be balanced, but "wherever possible" implies some GBR fares won't "work" for passengers. Privatisation allowed franchisees to hike long-distance "anytime" fares and shorten the hours when regulated "off-peak" fares were valid. Their primary duty was to maximise returns to shareholders from the subsidised rail network, rather than maximising the numbers of train passengers for social, environmental and safety benefits.Bizarrely, Labour is inflicting the same profits-first policy. The government now controls all the fares of its contracted train firms: it collects the ticket revenue and pays the firms' operating costs and management fees. Labour ministers could at least freeze excessive anytime fares, but no: on 2 March a Bristol-London peak return rose from £265.20 to £277.40, and Birmingham-Newcastle from £274.20 to £286.80.When privatisation was completed in 1997 a Manchester-London peak return cost £95, which would be £184 now had it increased with inflation - less than half the £386 fare Labour now deems appropriate. The Bristol-London peak return fare in the pre-profiteering age would now be £118 and Birmingham-Newcastle £182.Fares which don't "work" for the general public force people to trade down to restrictive"advance" tickets, use complicated "split" tickets, travel off-peak the day before and stay in budget hotels, use alternative transport (Labour continues the Tory policy of cutting road fuel duty in real terms while raising train fares) or stay put.It's unclear whether relentless annual fare rises actually net more ticket revenue than freezing or cutting fares would. The March 2023 fare rise was capped at 5.9 percent but the average fare paid per passenger mile in 2023-24 rose by just 0.3 percent, and the average fare per journey decreased by 2.3 percent.
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 27 March 2025 10:16 (seven months ago)
I would expect nothing less from these arseholes.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 March 2025 10:34 (seven months ago)
Spiteful, corrupt and INEPT.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 March 2025 10:35 (seven months ago)
both passengers and taxpayers
Because these are mutually exclusive categories, obv.
― emil.y, Thursday, 27 March 2025 13:45 (seven months ago)
Haha good point. What a weird construction!
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 27 March 2025 13:49 (seven months ago)
Two passengers, and taxpayers
― Mark G, Thursday, 27 March 2025 13:50 (seven months ago)
That rail stuff is insane.
is it some form of well but nationalisation that doesn't equate to anything that the word implies to normal people.
lol so basically "we know you like the word nationalisation, so we have done that for you"
I mean I suppose better the money is going to government in theory but not when they don't appear to want to spend any money on things that might help people.
Absolutely mad that you can travel from Barcelona to Madrid or whatever even in first class for 30 euro, most likely on a new high speed train, yet this country you're talking 100 sterling minimum to go London to Manchester in standard.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 27 March 2025 14:01 (seven months ago)
Nah, you can go for much cheaper than that.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 March 2025 14:17 (seven months ago)
At peak time prob not? I based my rate on having to go for work in January and it cost 200 return. Tho the Private Eye article cited a way higher figure for peak.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 27 March 2025 14:25 (seven months ago)
I go up to Glasgow all the time and have never paid more than £100 for a return journey ever. If it's for business and someone else is paying for it though, fair enough.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 March 2025 14:29 (seven months ago)
Don't forget the joys of the overnight London-Scotland Megabus, maybe they can 'nationalise' that next?
― death of a northener (Matt #2), Thursday, 27 March 2025 14:33 (seven months ago)
It's one of the slugs' longstanding favourite formulations that good, hardworking taxpayers drive everywhere and deeply resent being forced to support the decadent train habits of metropolitan elites.
― Maggy Scraggle, Thursday, 27 March 2025 15:10 (seven months ago)
i've never paid more than that for glasgow either, have relatives there so go a fair bit, but the manchester one is the high speed so it's more expensive than all the others. idk if that's the exact reason but it is notably really pricey.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 27 March 2025 15:49 (seven months ago)
Maybe.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 March 2025 15:59 (seven months ago)
if they come for my Two Together Railcard I'm going full Fawkes
― imago, Thursday, 27 March 2025 16:01 (seven months ago)
Anytime returns are in the neighbourhood of £200 in my experience, Advance not much less, and about £110 if you go off-peak and book well enough in advance
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 27 March 2025 16:02 (seven months ago)
It's been this way for years, tho the Private Eye price quoted I assume they looked at booking the next available trains immediately. Nonetheless it's just way beyond what you'd pay elsewhere. France is a little pricier than Spain but still nowhere near as bad as the UK.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 27 March 2025 17:32 (seven months ago)
This is Daniel's melt.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/28/keir-starmer-labour-rightwing-labour-prime-minister-leftwing
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 March 2025 08:46 (seven months ago)
*or melt in his social circle, above.
They are very bad at communicating any sense of purpose. You can pick more holes in this but unfortunately it will be a long four years/forever of this.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 March 2025 08:49 (seven months ago)
https://i.ibb.co/M5Wnqqhy/Screenshot-2025-03-28-at-09-40-03.png
a message for all in these troubled times
― LocalGarda, Friday, 28 March 2025 09:42 (seven months ago)
We Need To Brace says Stan Laurel.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 28 March 2025 09:43 (seven months ago)
stephen graham plays a sensible politician whose world falls apart when the political party he is a member of wins a landslide victory
― LocalGarda, Friday, 28 March 2025 09:47 (seven months ago)
just bcz rory's pulling a face doesnt mean we forget our lore
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images3/360/0814/23/gerry-anderson-thunderbirds-stingray_360_1a26ee84f19efbae0ec6e25f8e33d1f3.jpg
― mark s, Friday, 28 March 2025 09:49 (seven months ago)
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gerryanderson/images/e/ee/Aquaphibians.png/
― mark s, Friday, 28 March 2025 09:50 (seven months ago)
is Rory having flashbacks again? It's ok you creepy little MI6 spook, the Taliban is gone m8!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 09:52 (seven months ago)
I guess I should, strictly speaking, file that image on that "people making this expression" thread, in which Gary Lineker is arguably the most iconic example featured, Gary Lineker who owns Rory Stewart's podcast, the circle is complete.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 28 March 2025 10:04 (seven months ago)
one for the people who are absolutely batty about politics
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 10:10 (seven months ago)
disappointed at the lack of Gary Stevenson chat fellas
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 28 March 2025 13:56 (seven months ago)
TAX APOSTROPHES!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 13:57 (seven months ago)
he's an annoying prat, but I'm glad he's apparently getting massively popular with young people and annoying all the worst cunts on BBCQT
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 13:59 (seven months ago)
he's got some traction, his book a no1 best seller. His youtube channel is growing into the millions of subscribers. I'm not really his target audience so what I find irritating as fuck about him doesn't really matter.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 14:04 (seven months ago)
https://i.ibb.co/V0D4GBDt/Gn-Hf-Ri-WYAEYf6l.jpg
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 28 March 2025 14:18 (seven months ago)
Harry the cucked slug is probably just insanely jealous that he's a good looking young guy who probably fucks much more than he could ever dream of!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 14:23 (seven months ago)
amazing choice of image to illustrate that Harry believes that it is in fact benefit claimants who should plug the deficit
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 28 March 2025 14:28 (seven months ago)
I don't find him annoying but he's embellishing the hell out of his story. Surprised his detractors haven't capitalised but vibes are what matter
― anvil, Friday, 28 March 2025 14:33 (seven months ago)
when it comes out his whole backstory is heavily embellished and he's a sex pest - then comes the alt-right pivot.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 14:36 (seven months ago)
In a weird way he reminds me of Peter Zeihan, or they're doing a similar type thing
― anvil, Friday, 28 March 2025 14:39 (seven months ago)
Never heard of him until... this thread!
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 28 March 2025 14:41 (seven months ago)
he has a youtube channel "garys economics" which is really aiming for a young audience and it avoids the style of economic wonk speak that is irritating as fuck in any context (including on ilx threads) tbf and he keeps its simple and is frequently correct in his analysis so far tbf
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 14:45 (seven months ago)
Guess who (from today's Guardian and, no it's not Rory Stewart).
He is drawn to “real stories about real people”, who are often living on the edges of society: marginalised, rejected and frequently very, very angry.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 28 March 2025 14:50 (seven months ago)
hah hah lol not fucking that twat again!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 14:55 (seven months ago)
there no escaping this fucker now!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 14:56 (seven months ago)
the SG eclipse
first thought was John Harris :-(
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 28 March 2025 15:58 (seven months ago)
Comms chief 'resigned'. They clearly feel the problem is in educating the public on what Lab are doing.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg1g1ld95no
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 March 2025 15:59 (seven months ago)
how long until SG does a soulful guest vocal on either an a) IDLES or b) SLEAFORD MODS record
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 28 March 2025 16:19 (seven months ago)
idk what you do about this in an era where capital is more mobile than ever and there are so many options for low/no tax jurisdictions.
https://on.ft.com/4c9ul8R
https://www.cityam.com/steel-billionaire-lakshmi-mittal-to-ditch-uk-after-non-dom-crackdown/
― ShariVari, Friday, 28 March 2025 16:36 (seven months ago)
just say "laters, dickhead" to all capitol flight imo
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 16:41 (seven months ago)
How will we manage without the contributions of ppl who are explicitly only here if they don’t have to contribute anything
― the babality of evil (wins), Friday, 28 March 2025 16:48 (seven months ago)
Think of it as a necessary market correction
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2025 16:50 (seven months ago)
since the 60's the threat of the UK economy collapsing because Labour make shitty little incremental tax changes that cause capital flight has become so old and played out now. Fucking useless party.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 16:50 (seven months ago)
Get a feeling a lot of these people want to live here so while there is some threat it feels overegged by the press.
Ultimately though yes we live in their world, for now.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 March 2025 16:53 (seven months ago)
If this was truly was a democracy there would be a candidate with a manifesto of putting the top rate of income tax up to 90% and gleefully saying "let's give these parasitic scum something to really have a brain-stroke over"
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 16:59 (seven months ago)
Tax has always been a game. Let's distribute wealth unequally in the first place and then hope to get some of it back.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 March 2025 17:03 (seven months ago)
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 28 March 2025 14:50 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
This is almost word for word the blurb of that Ben Judah toss
― imago, Friday, 28 March 2025 17:08 (seven months ago)
last time top level income tax was in the 90% range in the UK was during WW2. Now WW3 is on the way it's more like: let the most vulnerable die and we'll spend the money on developing the cheap military drone tech Ukraine have been using on the meatgrinder fronts, and business as usual in the City. War is good again.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 17:14 (seven months ago)
it was through the social conditioning of the elites during WW2 that created the possibility of the UK welfare state. It would have been better if they had got done in. But it's a bit too much of an ingrained bootlicker country for a proletariat revolution!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 17:32 (seven months ago)
Stephen Graham as an anguished bootlicking pseudo scouse twat, swept up in revolutionary events!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 17:47 (seven months ago)
Lol I can see it.
Paul Mason giving it five stars in The Guardian
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 March 2025 17:49 (seven months ago)
They forgot also crying.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 28 March 2025 20:18 (seven months ago)
Graham’s acting career started in his parents’ front room in Kirkby, on the outskirts of Liverpool, where he did impressions of Idi Amin, the former dictator of Uganda, and Margaret Thatcher
Just quoting is all
― LocalGarda, Friday, 28 March 2025 20:20 (seven months ago)
case rested
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 28 March 2025 20:22 (seven months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/mar/28/stephen-graham-working-class-mixed-race-kid-cares-deeply-about-work
One of the weirdest most get more clicks mixed with bizarre truisms articles I've ever read. Graham the first actor of all time who thinks about the role.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 28 March 2025 20:28 (seven months ago)
Category:English male actors noted for their Idi Amin impression
The following 3 pages are in this category, out of 3 total. This list may not reflect recent changes.
- John Bird- Stephen Graham- Arthur Lowe
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Friday, 28 March 2025 20:38 (seven months ago)
Are we sure Graham's wasn't Didi Hamann?
― LocalGarda, Friday, 28 March 2025 20:39 (seven months ago)
the thing that really annoys me about Shane Meadows' movies is (apart from the profound terminal shiteness) is how dumb they are. They aren't social commentary, even though they are superficially focused on the margins of UK society - they are totally apolitical. Like this bag of shite on Netflix right now, that 90% of ILX are jizzing themselves over - just completely incurious fluff that dare not look at the reality of austerity UK - just an impression of doing this written by a dumb lunk, designed to be consumed by the fucking idiots running the country into the ground. The most profound thing that Shane Meadows (and by extension this dumb-fuck overrated actor) seem to have to say is that the 20th century nuclear family is sacrosanct and any deviation from this model of living is the root of all evil, not governments, not the growth of oligarchic wealth and the collapse of the welfare state. Sorry I'm ranting here, fuck the ugly potato faced grunt and every dickhead who thinks this garbage is saying something *important* or worthy
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 29 March 2025 06:11 (seven months ago)
another thing about SG is that in interviews plugging this garbage, he talks like a New Labour era politician. Employing some fake modesty in an *earthy* overdone regional accent, but knowing this policy has aced it at the focus groups, knowing he's on easy street and everyone thinks he's the fucking bees knees. ugh! The laziness, the cynicism, the smugness of him. I just can't get into the mindset of someone who would react positively to this trash.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 29 March 2025 06:45 (seven months ago)
Never been more greatful I don't have Netflix
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2025 07:03 (seven months ago)
We are just as fucked as the US.
🚨SIX ARRESTED FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH IN UNPRECEDENTED REPRESSION TO STOP US🚨At 7:30pm yesterday, over 30 Metropolitan Police officers broke into a Welcome Talk at the Quaker Meeting House in Westminster and arrested six people, including one attending their ever event and a… pic.twitter.com/mLLBkZ62TA— Youth Demand (@youth_demand) March 28, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 March 2025 08:34 (seven months ago)
Just the levels of repression that are here already..
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 March 2025 08:36 (seven months ago)
the UK is so owned by the US even Trump won't make a joke about meeting our governor because Canada has more autonomy than the UK. This came out under the last Trump regime when Pompeo said if Corbyn was elected the US would take action to annul the result, this wasn't going to be permitted.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 29 March 2025 08:39 (seven months ago)
I think Starmer is a sexual masochist who would literally bring new levels of repression to the UK just to get facefucked by the geriatric Trump as a reward.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 29 March 2025 08:43 (seven months ago)
I have been sort of laughing away at the other thread about the TV show existing at the same time as this one, if they find it they will be DEVASTATED.
― LocalGarda, Saturday, 29 March 2025 08:49 (seven months ago)
i just assume we're maintaining polite distance
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2025 09:06 (seven months ago)
she's a germfree adolescent, one long take is her obsession
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 29 March 2025 09:13 (seven months ago)
posting unpleasant and violent thoughts about Starmer Sgrahmer is enough to get you perma-banned on here!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 29 March 2025 09:15 (seven months ago)
to be clear the one true stephen graham thread is the "can he do accents no he cant" thread
― mark s, Saturday, 29 March 2025 09:18 (seven months ago)
There’s a growing consensus across all wings of Labour Party, combined with deep anxiety in Trade Union movement & our political base in communities across the country that the disability cuts are wrong & there has to be a u turn sooner rather than later. https://t.co/fSHoMI2gea— John McDonnell (@johnmcdonnellMP) March 29, 2025
Step right up, folks! it's the left-wing of the Labour Party 🤡🤡🤡
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 29 March 2025 09:30 (seven months ago)
Burnham would be fully behind this shit if he was in the PLP
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2025 09:31 (seven months ago)
of course, he's a career politician and doesn't give a fuck about ethics, just loves his chips and gravy train!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 29 March 2025 09:33 (seven months ago)
jfc just had this heart-stopping moment reading a PIP letter with the words "changes will take place" but amazingly it is a £3.15 pw increase
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 29 March 2025 09:37 (seven months ago)
it's not for me to tell you how to spend your money but I believe that is almost enough for a Netflix subscription
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 29 March 2025 11:08 (seven months ago)
hah hah fuck that it, it will eat into my booze and gambling funds!*
*yes, I sincerely hope right-wing Labour MPs are reading this thread!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 29 March 2025 11:10 (seven months ago)
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 March 2025 11:13 (seven months ago)
it's already well established at this point Lammy is indisputably a knave and a horrible person. But last week, him saying he has a family relative claiming PIP and in his opinion they shouldn't be. This is not really a new level of shittiness by his standards. But another one for the dossier on this absolute piece of shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 29 March 2025 11:28 (seven months ago)
"But last week, him saying he has a family relative claiming PIP and in his opinion they shouldn't be."
lol my god
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 March 2025 11:41 (seven months ago)
A half-decent performance on a TV debate programme that barely anyone watches now qualifies you for national newspaper hit pieces and character assassinations— Samplo Corvodina (@TreborRhurbarb) March 29, 2025
not seen any of this, but assume garys economics is paying the price for showing up the flimsiness of Fiona Bruce's bullshit
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 March 2025 08:52 (seven months ago)
say what you like about the guy, but at least he is attacking the party that is in government, some of these lame melts doing media campaigns against Farage when disabled ppl are being condemned to death by Labour policies. These people are the worst.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 March 2025 09:00 (seven months ago)
yeah i'm not Gary's target audience but it's just good to see anybody enraging oligarchy fans in 2025
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 March 2025 09:02 (seven months ago)
i don't really think "tax the rich" is a very helpful or enlightening framing of the problem but watching the responses to people saying it sure is
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 March 2025 09:05 (seven months ago)
taxing the rich is what passes for hard-left radicalism these days. Ever since the days that one of AOC's billionaire friends put the slogan on her famous met gala dress!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 March 2025 09:10 (seven months ago)
is Gary Economics hard-left? Focusing on inequality doesn't seem particularly hard-left or radical, seems more like pragmatism
― anvil, Sunday, 30 March 2025 12:58 (seven months ago)
I meant it with withering sarcasm towards what is deemed "hard-left" in the UK hellscape in particular, not meant as description of garys economics
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 March 2025 13:03 (seven months ago)
Going to go to church later today and every week now. Praying hard to the lord so that he can keep me safe and healthy so I can see these cunts die in four years.
🚨 BREAKING | Labour fall to distant THIRD place🔵 CON 26% (+1)🟣 REF 25% (+1)🔴 LAB 21% (-3)🟠 LD 13% (+1)🟢 GRN 7% (-3)Via @Moreincommon_ , 30-31 Mar (+/- vs 24 Mar) pic.twitter.com/WlmpTiPGli— Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️⚧️ (@LeftieStats) April 2, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 April 2025 10:35 (seven months ago)
McSweeney said something about how Labour's base will be returning to them when the next GE comes. They don't have a base any more, it has been incinerated. It's just a rerun of that arrogant, deluded "they've got nowhere else to go" riff from Mandelson, but this time with fuhrerbunker levels of psychotic delusion.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 April 2025 10:46 (seven months ago)
Means testing and austerity enthusiasts ARE the base now
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 April 2025 15:34 (seven months ago)
they’re so fucked. and we’re so fucked. m
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 2 April 2025 15:41 (seven months ago)
The only interesting thing about the polling is how little traction the Lib Dems seem to be getting.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 2 April 2025 15:48 (seven months ago)
Arguably this iteration of Labour absorbs their more conservative wing
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 April 2025 15:51 (seven months ago)
Yes, can see Labour picking up their former Tory wing, while losing support to Reform, Greens and ‘none of the above, thank you’.
I think Reform will probably either implode or have the press turn against them at some point, so will be interesting to see what happens then. Not sure it’ll be an influx back to the Tories.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 2 April 2025 15:55 (seven months ago)
They could implode but why would the press turn against them?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 April 2025 11:18 (seven months ago)
If they turn out not to be good for big business and the City.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 April 2025 11:22 (seven months ago)
Appetite for a ‘let’s just do it and be legends’ approach to slashing taxes and spending might not be quite as strong in the light of Trump setting the US economy on a collision course for the sun. Equally, if they are going to go into an election with wild spending promises on the NHS, energy, etc, and no way to fund them, there is a risk people might think they’re serious.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 3 April 2025 11:25 (seven months ago)
I think this is where I'm thinking four years is a still a long time to come. Right now I am just enjoying Labour's collapse and how anemic all the other choices are.
All the polling is showing no majority and a general collapse of faith in this democracy. I'll take it.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 April 2025 11:50 (seven months ago)
I take some comfort from a majority either hating or dgaf about the 2 main parties. It would be unbearable if any of these scum were riding a massive bump in the polling. Rather than getting to that stage, like in the US, where both main parties try and disenfranchise each others voters. In the UK they've so efficiently destroyed public trust in democracy that either "disenfranchised" or "don't even care anymore" is the majority party!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 3 April 2025 14:06 (seven months ago)
― ShariVari, Wednesday, April 2, 2025 3:48 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Felt a bit sad to see Ed Davey doing his "slightly comedic press conference" thing this week though perhaps dicking around is the only thing that gets him on the news?
― djh, Thursday, 3 April 2025 20:42 (seven months ago)
it sure the fuck isn't going to be LibDem policy announcements that gets them in the news, that much is for sure.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 3 April 2025 21:09 (seven months ago)
That's Sir Ed Davey btw
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 April 2025 21:28 (seven months ago)
Talked to some non doms who are actually considering leaving the UK due to the tax reform. I'm sure if I look it up it's weak sauce but doesn't take much to get the rich to flounce it seems.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 April 2025 10:06 (seven months ago)
They won't go. They have it real good here.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 April 2025 10:08 (seven months ago)
I have never knowingly met someone from the non dom community. I bet they are like fucking ants in London.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 April 2025 10:09 (seven months ago)
Ah I misspoke by saying "considering" - they have decided to go and are in the process of leaving.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 April 2025 10:09 (seven months ago)
I bet they are like fucking ants in London.
Yup! A lot of don't ask don't tell around it tho obv.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 April 2025 10:10 (seven months ago)
It’s about 100k people in total, I think. I am sure there are ways to mitigate / avoid it but, in theory, it’s not all that weak sauce. I think you’d basically go from paying £30k flat to 45% of profit generated from companies outside of the U.K.For a lot of the really wealthy, that’s going to run to tens or hundreds of millions.
― ShariVari, Friday, 4 April 2025 10:23 (seven months ago)
I like simple solutions for complex problems, like the old Chinese saying "one needle sees blood" - or one bullet sees parasite. Not a helpful comment, I know. But fuck every last one of these people obv!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 April 2025 10:31 (seven months ago)
I actually feel like in the current climate if a political leader had the nerve to say fuck these people, we'll just rinse them and I don't give a jot if they sulk off. Then face the wrath of the UK establishment and tell them to rot as well. Then after a month they'd be polling well above the Labour Party.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 April 2025 10:39 (seven months ago)
still wouldn't get into govt ever tho, a lesson we have learned
(the lesson being electoral politics is fucked)
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 April 2025 10:49 (seven months ago)
well yes, true.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 April 2025 10:52 (seven months ago)
If they don’t want to contribute*, then fuck ‘em.
*going to expensive restaurants and shops is not ‘contributing’.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 4 April 2025 10:55 (seven months ago)
They pay about £9bn a year on U.K. income and CGT, etc, though given that this is a bipartisan policy, you’d assume that someone has done the numbers and taxing them on overseas income works out positive.
― ShariVari, Friday, 4 April 2025 11:10 (seven months ago)
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 April 2025 bookmarkflaglink
They'll be back in a year or two.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 April 2025 11:13 (seven months ago)
I think you're indulging in a bit of reverse exceptionalism there by pretending like the UK is the only place catering to the rich!
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 April 2025 11:14 (seven months ago)
We've got all of that old empire tat here they love it.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 April 2025 11:18 (seven months ago)
It does seem attractive to greedy bastards the world over.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 4 April 2025 11:20 (seven months ago)
Well yeah but non dom was a big part of why that is.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 April 2025 11:21 (seven months ago)
The rich love a total lack of Passantino.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 April 2025 11:22 (seven months ago)
Some of the new names around ilx won't know what you are referring to.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 April 2025 11:23 (seven months ago)
The U.K. does still have a few advantages - not too hot, relatively stable legal system, English as a first language, assets protected from arbitrary government seizure, ‘good schools’, cultural cache, fairly good international transport infrastructure, though between Brexit, the decimation of the arts and Heathrow falling apart, etc, I wouldn’t be too cocky.
― ShariVari, Friday, 4 April 2025 11:30 (seven months ago)
Agree with most of that but I am sorry ShariVari did you actually just mention the climate as one of the UK's advantages??
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 April 2025 11:31 (seven months ago)
If the alternative is Dubai in Summer, I’m going with yes.
― ShariVari, Friday, 4 April 2025 11:34 (seven months ago)
Has anyone read Butler To The World? Bit broader/more evil than the non-dom and full of funds, but basically a book explaining how/why the UK made it so easy for a load of dodgy rich people to live here.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 4 April 2025 11:35 (seven months ago)
Loads of rich Arab families summer in London. In Regent’s Park I once met a young Saudi kid who approached, asking to pet Kenny the Lurcher (RIP). I asked the boy if his mum or dad was nearby to give permission, and he answered me ‘I asked my security if it was OK and he said I could!’ Looked towards where the boy was pointing and saw a black-clad man in shades and a headset…
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 4 April 2025 11:38 (seven months ago)
The City too. Lots of skilful and totally amoral lawyers, accountants etc.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 4 April 2025 11:43 (seven months ago)
Years ago I used to work 6am shifts at BBC and they paid for a car to get you in, not black cabs or whatever just some private firm. I assume staff prob have to walk today.
Anyway, once one of them told me one summer he was employed for the whole summer by a very well off family from Saudi Arabia. He said when they bought stuff in cash, they would just throw the change, regardless of how much, and including notes, into a big Louis Vuitton suitcase.
At the end of the summer they gave him the suitcase, and it was packed full and amounted to several thousand pounds.
I guess he could have made this up but it defo felt true in the telling.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 4 April 2025 11:44 (seven months ago)
Tldr rich people have money but something about it always stayed with me
Sure but if you can leave Dubai for the Summer for the UK you can absolutely do the same for any number of other places that have better weather.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 April 2025 12:00 (seven months ago)
I assume, for all its faults, from the outside some people still see London as a grand global city. Not least if you're loaded and cosplaying as a rich British gent in Mayfair or whatever.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 4 April 2025 12:02 (seven months ago)
"they would just throw the change, regardless of how much"
the kind of wealthy Saudis that would pay over a grand for a bang average wagyu from the Salt Bae restaurant, watch how he throws the salt, wow that's incredible!
I'm just thinking of this because my brother mentioned to me he was at the Dubai branch of the Nusr-et chain for a meeting and Salt Bae made an appearance that day, and him and his colleagues were quite amused at what an absolute bell end he was. There is one in London which I assume only the dumbest, crassest billionaires would waste their money in.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 April 2025 12:27 (seven months ago)
30 years ago I went to a friend’s summer wedding reception - her parents worked for the National Trust and had tied accommodation beside Richmond Park. Their neighbours were the Sultan of Brunei’s family, the women of which danced like dervishes on their roof terrace as the reception turned full rave.
People from the family were always in residence there, just not all at the same time.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 4 April 2025 12:32 (seven months ago)
Louis Mosley, the head of Palantir UK, met Keir Starmer that day. “You could see in his eyes that he gets it,” he tells The House from Palantir’s London office, in his first sit-down interview since joining the tech giant eight years ago. “The ambition is there – the will is there.”
lol of course
― tortillas for the divorce party (seandalai), Saturday, 5 April 2025 13:47 (seven months ago)
It's the most perfect company name tbf
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 April 2025 14:38 (seven months ago)
One more by-election defeat.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/apr/05/labour-mp-dan-norris-arrested-over-and-child-abuse-allegations
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 April 2025 21:47 (seven months ago)
too grim to lol, just the worst people.
― zoloft keeps liftin' me (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 5 April 2025 23:12 (seven months ago)
it's an incredible selection process where Labour can somehow run a candidate who is infinitely more evil than JRM. Maybe if Starmer hadn't completely run roughshod over the usual democratic selection process to fastrack a load of corporate lobbyists and various ghouls to stand as MPs, then the chances of this happening might be slightly reduced, only slightly though tbf.
With what is left of the membership, those diehard weirdos - Reeves and Kendall have an approval rating in the -40 range.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 6 April 2025 07:24 (seven months ago)
you don't hear the term pasokification much any more, arguably it simply isn't adequate/capacious enough for what's happening to the uk Labour party
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 6 April 2025 08:27 (seven months ago)
Hilarious aftermath to our discussion on rich people moving out of here:
https://archive.ph/3iyyF
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 April 2025 08:56 (seven months ago)
Though this is how it ends:
“The UK may be acting as something of a car park,” Ritchie said, adding that clients were exploring moving to Italy, Switzerland and Dubai but “parking in the UK for a period as they explore other options”.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 April 2025 08:57 (seven months ago)
This is kinda unrelated, in that the changes to tax law aiui do not pertain to money being moved into the UK - it's about people living here. Money coming into the country was also taxed, even for non doms, under the previous regime - I don't think there's any need for any rich person to move to the UK for what's described in that article to happen.
That being said rich Americans have been fleeing the country at a quick pace, my home island is now full of them.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 7 April 2025 09:14 (seven months ago)
the UK isn't insulated or autonomous enough from the US to count as somewhere else in the minds of rich people, that's why it's only a parking place for their money
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 7 April 2025 09:26 (seven months ago)
Yes Daniel - true. I guess these parasites are invisible to us so their money is them.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 April 2025 09:33 (seven months ago)
I've always been convinced that the overriding reason anyone comes to the UK, at either end of the financial scale, is because of the English language. If the US was where Ireland is, geographically, they'd all go there
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Monday, 7 April 2025 09:38 (seven months ago)
That was certainly the main reason my friends from Portugal who emigrated around the same time as me chose London, yes.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 7 April 2025 09:40 (seven months ago)
I chose it because of the FAPs.
Though digital nomads have been discovering that you can just move anywhere - Berlin, Amsterdam, Lisbon - and if there's enough of you you can turn english into the de facto language.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 7 April 2025 09:41 (seven months ago)
Oh yes, I imagine so.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Monday, 7 April 2025 09:42 (seven months ago)
Everywhere in Europe seems to have way way more Americans post-Covid IME. Even places that always had a fair few like Barcelona.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 7 April 2025 10:12 (seven months ago)
Yeah, Covid was the first wave, Trump 2.0 is the second.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 7 April 2025 10:12 (seven months ago)
There has been a huge travel boom, partly due to a very strong USD.
If you can get paid in USD and live in Spain, you’re laughing. How that plays out if he crashes the Dollar, idk.
― ShariVari, Monday, 7 April 2025 10:15 (seven months ago)
Paris is full of them.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Monday, 7 April 2025 10:19 (seven months ago)
It truly is the roaring twenties again!
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 7 April 2025 10:20 (seven months ago)
my football club is owned by a billionaire Yank. It's been great. He's brought us a team that plays a shitty standard of L1 football. You can get even more expensive than usual overpriced pints at the stadium that are dispensed by machine. 60%+ increase of season ticket prices. Cheeseburger and Chips for £10. I wish more of these cunts would please just stay in the fucking US.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 7 April 2025 10:37 (seven months ago)
You can sense the boom based on all the hipster monoculture restaurants etc. If you're in Spain or France or any city on the continent ime, anywhere with a really high Google rating is prob somewhere that has Asian fusion or poke bowl tapas or tacos or something, not some dark bar where you can eat pigs ears or whatever with a little telly playing the news lol. I've seen places I know are still good drift down in ranking as people expect to be treated a certain way or for everything to be tailored to their needs. Tho obviously being a tourist you're also part of the same process even if you try to be polite or aware.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 7 April 2025 11:51 (seven months ago)
I heard this was the 'complaining about Stephen Graham and his ilk' thread now? I've been raging about this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm24nedy37ro
― emil.y, Tuesday, 8 April 2025 14:06 (seven months ago)
jfc
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 8 April 2025 14:07 (seven months ago)
come back Reece Dinsdale, all is forgiven (I was very rude to him on a HTAFC message board for stanning for Owen Smith when he stood against Corbyn). But ffs just stop this hateful cash-grabby bullshit already Warp Films, everything you make sucks shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 8 April 2025 14:43 (seven months ago)
Two racist attacks:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/apr/08/two-teenagers-found-guilty-of-manslaughter-of-80-year-old-man-in-leicestershire-park
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/apr/08/boy-16-stabbed-to-death-in-huddersfield-was-syrian-refugee
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 April 2025 14:44 (seven months ago)
Okay, yeah, that's worse than a Threadsremake.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 8 April 2025 14:59 (seven months ago)
Lol, wish I had funnier news items today.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 April 2025 17:53 (seven months ago)
was talking to my mum about the murder of the Syrian youth, she wasn't far off when it happened, it sounded horrific. Murdered in broad daylight in a town centre, just near the civic centre and the magistrate's court, not a dodgy zone. He was a young war-zone survivor refugee to the UK.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 8 April 2025 20:40 (seven months ago)
Was wondering if you'd heard about it.
I am sure nothing will be reported around how this guy was radicalised, or whether the rhetoric against migrants had anything to do with this.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 April 2025 20:51 (seven months ago)
Lord Michael GoveSir James CleverlySir Jeremy HuntSir Grant Shapps(!)
I know I should be used to it by now but the UK honours system and its stupid titles will always infuriate me.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 11 April 2025 13:54 (six months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/apr/11/labour-mp-steve-yemm-apologises-donation-commons
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 April 2025 15:21 (six months ago)
silly lad, if you just declare your bribes up front then it's all good
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 April 2025 15:47 (six months ago)
Spme huge losses in council elections to come.
🚨 BREAKING: Greens GAIN Haringey council seat from Labour with a huge swing. Labour down 21pts 😮🟢 GRN 55% (+14)🔴 LAB 31% (-21)➡️18% swing from Labour to Green pic.twitter.com/8OTzfRWgc9— Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️⚧️ (@LeftieStats) April 11, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 April 2025 20:45 (six months ago)
https://edconway.substack.com/p/the-strange-unsettling-story-of-british
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 April 2025 09:46 (six months ago)
The Strange Unsettling Story Of British - next thread title
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 13 April 2025 09:47 (six months ago)
^
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 April 2025 10:04 (six months ago)
xtc's nigel's parents' plans vindicated at last
― mark s, Sunday, 13 April 2025 10:11 (six months ago)
pretty cruel wanting your son to live in Scunthorpe tbh
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 April 2025 10:40 (six months ago)
they were principled maoists
― mark s, Sunday, 13 April 2025 11:12 (six months ago)
it's crazy to think that in the 50's Mao had lofty ambitions for China to match UK steel production
this is what passes for a great leap forward in the UK now, one poxy shithole-town nationalised blast furnace to serve military industrial interests. What a joke of a country - hope we get nuked and Trident fails to launch in retaliation.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 13 April 2025 11:23 (six months ago)
the author of that piece seems to be having a fair old jizzfest over blast furnaces. I saw fake one once at Magna in Rotherham!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 13 April 2025 11:28 (six months ago)
I've been to Magna! Crazy kids doing that rope slide thing, not for me Trevor
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 April 2025 12:22 (six months ago)
the bungee jump? yeah fuck that for a game of something
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 13 April 2025 12:27 (six months ago)
Well abseiling, but in general any kind of dangling off ropes sucks imo
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 13 April 2025 12:30 (six months ago)
I saw Pulp at Magna, coldest gig I’ve ever been to. Wished they had the blast furnace running that night.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 13 April 2025 15:53 (six months ago)
I was there too!
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Sunday, 13 April 2025 16:01 (six months ago)
lols, nothing to see, just an arrest warrant for Starmer's *talented* former anti-corruption minister for multiple accusations of corruption, including dodgy cross border land deals and shady shit with Russians.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 14 April 2025 10:25 (six months ago)
This rebranding of Labour as the party for rough tough boys reads like the abandoned first draft of a Wyndham Lewis Blast manifesto
Hard Labour rejects default progressive orthodoxies and the pieties of left-wing virtue-signalling. It does not believe that liberalism will inevitably prevail in a disorderly world. It believes in the centrality of the nation state and strong borders. It champions rearmament and reindustrialisation. Hard Labour is above all else realist: McSweeney, and by implication Starmer, want nothing less than to formulate a new post-progressive politics of the centre left that will set the political agenda for a generation.
https://archive.ph/22Yyz
― Maggy Scraggle, Monday, 14 April 2025 10:36 (six months ago)
of course this "hardness" was personified on the world stage by Starmer's masochistic, flustered pony-boy whimpering and begging performance at the feet of Trump & Vance. Never mind retaining any scraps of human dignity, this is time for some hard realism lads!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 14 April 2025 10:52 (six months ago)
Sentencing the country to hard labour more like.
They are so deeply fucking pathetic it's unreal. So cooked they are now taking rebranding tips from Paul Mason.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 14 April 2025 11:02 (six months ago)
https://alikivi.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/the-hard.png
*Stamer hitting his own hand with a hammer* FELT NOWT
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 14 April 2025 11:04 (six months ago)
But McSweeney is less Blue Labour than what is being called Hard Labour.
love the shameless disingenuousness of that "what is being called"
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 14 April 2025 11:07 (six months ago)
McSweeney, and by implication Starmer, want nothing less than to formulate a new post-progressive politics of the centre left that will set the political agenda for a generation.
"Boris is angling for more than a decade in power" vibes
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 14 April 2025 11:12 (six months ago)
Jason Cowley should’ve stuck to sports reporting.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Monday, 14 April 2025 11:15 (six months ago)
taking dictation from McSweeney is probably easier tbf
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 April 2025 11:23 (six months ago)
i'm hearing Starmer's walk-on music at the conference this year will be TG's "Discipline"
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 April 2025 11:24 (six months ago)
not that he'll be in post much longer after the council elections
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 April 2025 11:25 (six months ago)
Wonder of Scunthorpe will vote Reform anyway after all this
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 April 2025 13:49 (six months ago)
not sure that some furnaces that need to be constantly fed with coal or they drop dead is a viable long term economic asset tbh
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 April 2025 15:24 (six months ago)
The UK has been sentenced to several years of Hard Labour
― LocalGarda, Monday, 14 April 2025 15:37 (six months ago)
lots of "strategic steel" needed (for when Britain's £6bn aircraft carrier gets totalled by a fleet of $1000 drones)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 14 April 2025 15:41 (six months ago)
of course this "hardness" was personified on the world stage by Starmer's masochistic, flustered pony-boy whimpering and begging performance at the feet of Trump & Vance.
More like Slave Labour amirite?
― Nuts, whole hazelnuts (Tom D.), Monday, 14 April 2025 15:54 (six months ago)
This is good on the "policy by television show" that LG was talking about recently: https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2025/april/not-based-on-a-true-story
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 15 April 2025 08:07 (six months ago)
Streeting ramping up attack in trans healthcare, as per thread
Good Law Project holds a copy of new NHS Guidance published yesterday and it is clear that Wes Streeting is continuing his war on trans people.Remarkably the national health service is now directing GPs to cause harm to the community. 🧵— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) April 10, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 09:00 (six months ago)
what a fucking hateful, dangerous psychopath. I mean is it really going to be that much worse when Reform are running this fascist island?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 15 April 2025 09:25 (six months ago)
Haven't seen this reported.
85 graves Muslims graves were vandalised in Brent. Large numbers of the graves damaged were in the babies' section. pic.twitter.com/dxMbktK9U4— Mukhtar (@I_amMukhtar) April 14, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 11:34 (six months ago)
xposts for those without twitter here’s that thread about streeting’s war on trans people -https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1910360748049527077.html
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 12:03 (six months ago)
Minister for the Future of Roads
https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/parliamentary-under-secretary-of-state--268
― Nuts, whole hazelnuts (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 06:32 (six months ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GohPjbqWgAE-FXH?format=jpg&name=large
the pothole tsar (actually in this pic more like a rutted road surface that technically isn't quite a pothole!)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 06:55 (six months ago)
Is there a Minister for the Present of Pavements?
― Nuts, whole hazelnuts (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 06:56 (six months ago)
future roads will be obsolete, because of the blade runner cars!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 07:03 (six months ago)
Meanwhile, some things never change with Scottish Labour.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/labour-frank-mcaveety-charged-fraud-35062158
― Nuts, whole hazelnuts (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 07:14 (six months ago)
I was reading some previous on McAveety last night, there was an incident where he was audibly recorded making sexual comments about a 15 yr old girl at an event. Another one of these "only the finest quality candidates" will do for Starmer.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 07:28 (six months ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GomdHn3XoAAxlDo?format=png&name=small
it was this, courtesy of wariotifo
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 07:34 (six months ago)
"Kent traffic"
― koogs, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 08:00 (six months ago)
Let's be clear: Labour's PIP consultation is not meaningful. It covers only 12 of 22 measures—minor ones—excluding major changes like the 4-point PIP eligibility rules, UC health element freezes, & WCA scrapping. Disabled voices are silenced on £5B cuts. It justifies nothing. https://t.co/ns7Pc5tD6o— Dr Jay Watts (@Shrink_at_Large) April 28, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 April 2025 18:41 (six months ago)
Yes, its another bullshit consultation..
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 April 2025 18:42 (six months ago)
The MP is either a fool and is being played or lying (either look is terrible and bad)
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 April 2025 18:43 (six months ago)
it's great innit, when you get invited to a bogus consultation with some vile ogre who just transmits and doesn't receive. And is just going to bite your head off afterwards, anyway.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 28 April 2025 18:48 (six months ago)
MP is just a fucking coward tbf
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 28 April 2025 18:51 (six months ago)
She's got previous with this kind of crap.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Monday, 28 April 2025 19:07 (six months ago)
One person with knowledge of the US talks said: “The US has now decided to negotiate its trade deals in three phases. The government has been told it will not be in phase one – though that leaves the door open to be in either phase two or three.”
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 29 April 2025 21:21 (six months ago)
Maybe phase 4 buddy
this must be the special relationship they keep telling us about
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Tuesday, 29 April 2025 21:24 (six months ago)
On twitter left I saw a post that was like "the labour right have never forgiven Glasto for making Corbyn cool" and I am still like I wish I could go back to a time where I wasn't paying much attention to politics, because this tracks.
Labour Minister tells Glastonbury to "think very carefully" about Kneecap playing the festival.— Ava-Santina (@AvaSantina) April 29, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 April 2025 07:24 (six months ago)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/nintchdbpict0003335783521-e1498150005991.jpg?strip=all&w=674
personally, I could never really forgive Glastonbury for making Tom Watson cool
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 30 April 2025 07:38 (six months ago)
Funnily enough, on the obit thread I posted a video of Wizz Jones in 1960 singing, among other things, a song about how he hoped a local councillor in Newquay would die.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 April 2025 08:27 (six months ago)
very relatable, it sounds like he was one of the good ones.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 30 April 2025 08:29 (six months ago)
This is a message to the fly-tippers blighting our towns and villages:For too long, your actions have gone unpunished. That ends now.We'll use drones and new tech to identify your vehicle. Then we'll crush it.— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) April 30, 2025
Labour now sourcing policy ideas from 90s Sky One gameshows hosted by Freddie Starr
https://i2-prod.hulldailymail.co.uk/incoming/article8924300.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200b/35288392_1998-06-23_CITY-STORY-WITH-SAM_-Skys-One.jpg
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 30 April 2025 08:30 (six months ago)
did he get a month perma-ban from the English folk scene for that?!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 30 April 2025 08:30 (six months ago)
His banjo was crushed
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 April 2025 08:40 (six months ago)
Kieth posting like a loser at a council election.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 April 2025 08:53 (six months ago)
No council elections in London but one of our councilors became an MP for Dartford so will actually be voting for the Green councillor tomorrow in the by election. Hoping its the beginning of the end for Lab in Lambeth.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 April 2025 08:56 (six months ago)
Ooh, Kieth's hard
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 April 2025 09:23 (six months ago)
He's so embarrassing
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 30 April 2025 09:24 (six months ago)
I'm like the drunken dark avenger of fly tipping. I don't use a car and do it night when I'm half cut. There is no cctv set up on the de facto rubbish dump on a site owned by a property developer who hasn't managed to develop anything on it. Previously there was a 19th century barn that was used as a council storage building and some vacant cottages that were built in the early 1600's. They were beautiful and this mofo demolished them for nothing. So it's justifiable and progressive fly tipping imo. Yeah come at me Kieth, ya plastic hardman, lol!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 30 April 2025 09:35 (six months ago)
user calzino forced to watch his shoes fed into an industrial crusher
― imago, Wednesday, 30 April 2025 09:40 (six months ago)
with Kieth being such a top notch human rights lawyer and defender of humanity, he'd make sure I was still attached to the shoes!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 30 April 2025 09:44 (six months ago)
Listening to the snooker all week and if Kieth promises to execute John Virgo he gets my vote
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 April 2025 10:15 (six months ago)
Where's the QC going etc etc
― imago, Wednesday, 30 April 2025 10:18 (six months ago)
in a twist that nobody could have foreseen Rupert Lowe is already in Starmer's mentions arguing that just crushing cars isn't tough enough and Labour also need to commit to deporting any foreign nationals found fly-tipping, excited to see what Lowe will up the ante to after they agree to this
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 30 April 2025 10:59 (six months ago)
Looking forward to a department for deportations.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 April 2025 11:06 (six months ago)
Unacceptably humane there from Lowe; the British people will not be happy until foreigners are crushed before deportation, in a literal rather than figurative sense
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 30 April 2025 11:34 (six months ago)
perhaps the next step could be committing to liquifying fly tippers into some kind of goo type resin that can be used to fill potholes.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 30 April 2025 11:34 (six months ago)
Chewed up and resultant paste spread between two intact fly tippers iirc.
― Maggy Scraggle, Wednesday, 30 April 2025 11:43 (six months ago)
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, April 30, 2025 10:15 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Virgo, Shaun Murphy and Ken Doherty forced to toil in the cliche mines
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 30 April 2025 12:08 (six months ago)
I want to acknowledge John Parrott being decent at pronouncing Chinese names unlike his compadres tho
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 April 2025 12:12 (six months ago)
I'd have thought knowing how to pronounce the names would be a prerequisite for doing the job of commentator, and I'd have been wrong.
― the very hungry capital-killer (Matt #2), Wednesday, 30 April 2025 12:29 (six months ago)
stoked for tomorrow's glorious reckoning
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 May 2025 16:30 (six months ago)
Already seeing some spin that these are Tory areas etc.
Can't wait to laugh at the levels of cope tomorrow.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 May 2025 17:20 (six months ago)
will there be any consequences for the two most widely hated members of govt, fronting very enthusiastically for their worst, most socially destructive and harmful austerity policies (Kendall and Reeves) when Labour get absolutely rarsed everywhere in the locals and most people on the doorsteps say it's mainly because of them two vile psychos. nah, will there fuck be any consequences. This isn't a real democracy of consequences and public accountability, it's barely even a real fucking country.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 1 May 2025 17:35 (six months ago)
These spiteful bigots can eat shit forever. I’d die of shame if I ever cast a vote for the bar chart scammers and if I do manage to stagger to the polls before 10 I’ll vote green but I will be fairly satisfied if the piss diamonds won here (as according to them only they can) just to live in a place that has rejected labour
― the babality of evil (wins), Thursday, 1 May 2025 18:45 (six months ago)
i voted Green first thing but i'm pretty sure we're about to get the hardest mayor in Reform
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 May 2025 19:22 (six months ago)
apparently the two party system has been fractured and broken beyond repair. It's only fair that Kieth should take a lot of credit here imo. He's done more for increasing voter disengagement in 10 months of being in office than the Tories could do in 14 years.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 1 May 2025 19:23 (six months ago)
as for consequences well yeah calz no meaningful consequences but this might be the next step in the resistable rise of Arturo Wes
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 May 2025 19:24 (six months ago)
I'm just looking for signs that there might be a U turn or *rebellion* on the chainsaw job on PIP. Of course this is way too hopeful and probably naive. The kind of "high quality" MPs that Kieth flooded the party with, don't do that kind of thing (but seemingly they do do high level corruption, paedophilia and physical street assaults on constituents)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 1 May 2025 19:32 (six months ago)
It seems the runcorn byelection has come down to whether drawing a knob in the box is a valid vote or not.
― Ed, Friday, 2 May 2025 04:44 (six months ago)
if you've got time to draw a picture of the candidate you deserve your vote to count
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 May 2025 05:26 (six months ago)
labour loses by six knobs
― conrad, Friday, 2 May 2025 05:52 (six months ago)
how unfortunate, they might have been able to squeak it by one and a half knobs if Reeves and Starmer weren't so fucking vile
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 2 May 2025 06:06 (six months ago)
https://i.imgur.com/dJD34bG.jpeg
― conrad, Friday, 2 May 2025 06:53 (six months ago)
I’m sure he can count to 21 but beyond that, who knows?
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 2 May 2025 07:39 (six months ago)
That's how many votes they won by in the Runcorn by-election, turning over a 14,700 vote majority.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 2 May 2025 08:02 (six months ago)
Increasing the Tory austerity program after running on "Change" - that has finished them off. They can keep matching the racist Reform rhetoric, but mainly it's all going to be losses from here to the next GE when they get dumped. The UK commentariat who hailed McSweeney's strategic genius after the last election have not got a fucking clue, same with McSweeney. There was any real masterstroke of strategic targeting, it was the CON vote completely collapsing and Labour doing underwhelmingly lower than usual being enough for a landslide.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 2 May 2025 08:22 (six months ago)
I'm sort of wondering when and how the perennial Tory survival instinct kicks in
― imago, Friday, 2 May 2025 08:36 (six months ago)
kemi will not take the easy way out of having policies people like and winning votes or elections.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 2 May 2025 09:49 (six months ago)
pivoting to a more pro EU stance seems at odds with her usual style of basic culture war bullshit, that's where they are at now - doing Ed Davey policies to stave of the looming threat of the LibDems for 3rd place
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 2 May 2025 09:54 (six months ago)
well "pro EU" is probably pushing it, but she was calling for trade barriers with EU to be removed, which is basically the same thing as a customs union?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 2 May 2025 10:23 (six months ago)
Runcorn is a warning we can’t ignore. Voters want change – and if we don’t offer it with bold, hopeful policies that rebuild trust, the far right will.If we don’t step up now, the alternative won’t be more of the same – it’ll be an extreme right-wing government.
If we don’t step up now, the alternative won’t be more of the same – it’ll be an extreme right-wing government.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 May 2025 10:32 (six months ago)
We are already here. Reform will up on that with a 'Ministry for Deportations' but its pretty much done. We are fucked.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 May 2025 10:35 (six months ago)
thing is the descent into fascism is such a fucking expected and already widely discussed process that is playing out- there aren't going to be any surprises and it's all going to be incredibly predictable, but let the master strategist McSweeney keep on full steam ahead - no icebergs in sight he says
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 2 May 2025 10:42 (six months ago)
<million-year-long farting noise> pic.twitter.com/7I2EQW3Kiz— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) May 1, 2025
lol at this tedious cunt still holding the honour of being the most tedious melt to have ever existed, it reminds me of when other tedious melts claim they are being attacked by both the left and the right, so this proves that their fact-based unbiased super brane is undoubtedly aligned in the correct direction on everything.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 2 May 2025 10:52 (six months ago)
I am not going to listen closely to the kneecap furore sito
― the babality of evil (wins), Friday, 2 May 2025 11:02 (six months ago)
yes absolutely, as much chance as me listening to their music as getting deep into this
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 2 May 2025 11:18 (six months ago)
the Labour MP for Hemel Hempstead thought it was important enough to call for an apology from Corbyn (who wasn't in parliament that day, lol), for being in a photo with Kneecap 3 years ago.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 2 May 2025 11:30 (six months ago)
All the important issues.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Friday, 2 May 2025 11:33 (six months ago)
Remember before the election when they went on about how they wouldn’t get mixed up in culture wars lol, now it’s all glasto and ladies’ shitters
― the babality of evil (wins), Friday, 2 May 2025 11:39 (six months ago)
Blimey, I've just received an email offering me a risible sum to take part in a trial for overseas voter registration. Is there some disgruntled Tory voter cohort they want to appeal to? Maybe the Marbella set are still skulking out there in the sun, post-Brexit.
― the very hungry capital-killer (Matt #2), Friday, 2 May 2025 11:43 (six months ago)
An apology from the same Jeremy Corbyn whose image was used by paras serving in Afghanistan for target practice in 2019? That guy?
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 2 May 2025 11:44 (six months ago)
Kent will be flooded in the next four years. Wouldn't worry.
[In Kent] the Conservatives are defending a very large majority: in 2021 they elected 62 councillors against 7 Labour, 6 Lib Dems, 4 Greens, 1 Swale Independent and 1 councillor for the Swanscombe and Greenhithe Residents Association. The Conservative councillor for Hythe West resigned in late 2022 after his links to a neo-Nazi group were exposed, and the Green party won the resulting by-election in 2023; the Swanscombe and Greenhithe Residents Association councillor died in 2024, and Reform UK won the resulting by-election on a low vote share of just 29%.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 May 2025 14:34 (six months ago)
local greens smashed it hereour councillor got five times the votes of second placephew
― nxd, Friday, 2 May 2025 14:56 (six months ago)
some shit times ahead, but it's worth living through this just to see all the ppl I despise the most getting both electorally decimated and having to realise in real time that their legacy is that they were the absolute fucking idiots who proved to be the tipping point that finished off the wretched party.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 2 May 2025 15:37 (six months ago)
This working class woman, after 40 years in the Labour Party, was disciplined & banned by them from standing for County Council. Because she spoke out about the Winter Fuel Allowance. She resigned. Today she took the seat from the Labour Group Leader ✊ pic.twitter.com/1EJY6wluQN— Broxtowe Alliance Councillors (@broxtoweindys) May 2, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 May 2025 06:52 (six months ago)
I wonder if there is any chance of a VONC against Starmer. Obviously everything will still be shit and there aren't any good people in the party anymore. But still would love to see him and Reeves getting fed into the mincer, just out of pure hatred.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 3 May 2025 08:04 (six months ago)
apparently there is some disquiet about how complacent Starmer and his team were about Runcorn and he didn't show up. Although tbf he is so nationally hated now they would have lost by more than 6 if the cunt had turned up in person.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 3 May 2025 08:06 (six months ago)
In a week of difficult local elections, there was a special guest in No 10 to give a pep talk to staff: Arsène Wenger, the former manager of Arsenal, beloved of the prime minister. Keir Starmer has sought his advice before, on the importance of building a team. And they have faced some common challenges, rebuilding their clubs and parties from low ebbs to extraordinary success.
might have disagreed when people said we were fucked upthread but now...
― LocalGarda, Saturday, 3 May 2025 09:04 (six months ago)
sometimes you just have seek advice from someone who is approaching the age of terminal senility and then get your press office to feed it out there. That shows that you are a very serious person.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 3 May 2025 09:39 (six months ago)
Could never stand Wenger and his football professor shtick anyway.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 May 2025 09:41 (six months ago)
horrible old man
Starmer is such a gimmicky, trivial cunt there wouldn't be any point him being good advice anyway even if it was there. I think he's incapable of listening and he's shallower than a puddle of piss.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 3 May 2025 09:44 (six months ago)
Invincibles 4 evah.
Glad that we are all agreed that we're fucked.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 May 2025 09:53 (six months ago)
Different dynamics and its a council election with low turnout but its funny how Farage is so confident with that DEI and wfh remark, even as Canada and Australia vote for weak centre left gruel he is pushing those lines.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 May 2025 13:35 (six months ago)
Maybe he reckons since Musk disowned him he's sheltered from the backlash.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 3 May 2025 13:40 (six months ago)
There's no backlash in the UK because our government has decided to become Trump's toadies.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 May 2025 13:43 (six months ago)
Ah yes, our highly popular government.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 3 May 2025 14:17 (six months ago)
Labour creates a TikTok showing Keir Stramer as having "aura" (2025) pic.twitter.com/LV3YaJ1Mro— insane moments in british politics (@PoliticsMoments) May 3, 2025
a a a a a aura aura aura aura!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 4 May 2025 11:53 (six months ago)
The aura of a middle manager who agrees with whatever the CEO says.
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Sunday, 4 May 2025 12:02 (six months ago)
Starmer can chair a meeting. He can draft a minute. He can lead a team. He can hold a press conference. He can stay calm in an interview. He can rizz up Baby Gronk. He’s mindful, while also demure.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 4 May 2025 12:06 (six months ago)
to quote mr Sayle's slam poem "I hate Kier Starmer"
he is aesthetically petty and dull, a piece of hotel art made man
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 4 May 2025 12:26 (six months ago)
cannot imagine a being with less aura than sir kier, he is an aura black hole.
― zoloft keeps liftin' me (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 4 May 2025 12:35 (six months ago)
even people who like Starmer* don't think he has aura.
*yes there are some!
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 May 2025 12:41 (six months ago)
whoever's doing Labour's social media now is after the Turner Prize for satire i'm guessing
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 May 2025 12:45 (six months ago)
🚨 NEW: The UK-India trade deal means Indian workers temporarily in the UK will be exempt from paying National Insurance for three years pic.twitter.com/m0g9Whp6Jj— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) May 6, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 19:16 (six months ago)
You can just see what the right and reform will shout about next.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 19:17 (six months ago)
I thought workers from the Commonwealth were supposed to step into the breach post-Brexit... but only Canadians, Australians and Kiwis I suppose.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 19:47 (six months ago)
looks like Trump's just bought the NHS lads, chlorinated chicken incoming
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 May 2025 11:27 (six months ago)
Kieth has already shown an astonishing propensity to not give a fuck about pissing off all vital voting cohorts and doubling down on shit, unpopular policies. So he might as well make chlorinated chicken his own poll tax
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 8 May 2025 11:38 (six months ago)
Joke of a country.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/winston-churchill-statue-climbing-illegal-b2746303.html
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 May 2025 12:13 (six months ago)
Hilarious they think they can buy off Reform racists with this stunt
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 May 2025 12:22 (six months ago)
But will it be an offence to climb onto the adjacent David Lloyd George statue and thumb your nose at WC?
"the deep and enduring love that all decent British people have for Sir Winston" according to Starmer, everyone hated him at the time!
― tangerine bream (Matt #2), Thursday, 8 May 2025 12:36 (six months ago)
Just think, in eighty years.....
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 May 2025 12:37 (six months ago)
dear independent, if your paywall / cookie thing can be defeated by me unclicking boxes next to two css settings then you need to think again.
article doesn't say anything about climbing next to it. and does a non-invasive grass mohican count as desecration?
― koogs, Thursday, 8 May 2025 13:02 (six months ago)
"the deep and enduring love that all decent British people have for Sir Winston"
gosh Kieth, you are just so steeped in culture and history and don't ever sound like a total simp. One lesson I have learned from him is to never assume someone is even half reasonably intelligent just because they managed to pass the bar and earn big bucks wearing a stupid fucking wig.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 8 May 2025 14:56 (six months ago)
a big hand for Sir Keirnoch Powell everyone
'We risk becoming an island of strangers, not a nation that walks forward together.' Sir Keir Starmer announces measures which he says will help control the number of immigrants coming into the country to live and work. pic.twitter.com/Clg1KVpAY4— Good Morning Britain (@GMB) May 12, 2025
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 12 May 2025 09:35 (five months ago)
Disgusting
― triste et cassé (gyac), Monday, 12 May 2025 09:46 (five months ago)
Dark lol
“We never signed up to zero immigration.”Essential NHS and care workers should be considered "exceptions" to immigration policy, providing the government makes "serious efforts” to upskill British workers in the meantime, says Reform’s Ann Widdecombe. pic.twitter.com/tP6ueJ54Tf— Times Radio (@TimesRadio) May 12, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 May 2025 09:48 (five months ago)
They’re basically scraping beneath the bottom of the barrel for policies the government that spent over a decade trying to drive the net migration number down, at almost any cost, thought were too pointless or too counterproductive to implement. The only ‘successful’ outcome would be making the U.K. less attractive to international students. That, and the proposed levy charged to universities, seems to exist in a world parallel to the one with an ongoing Higher Education funding crisis.
― ShariVari, Monday, 12 May 2025 11:03 (five months ago)
Nobody is going to care about that when Reform gets in. Education isn’t going to be a priority.
― triste et cassé (gyac), Monday, 12 May 2025 11:32 (five months ago)
It will never be enough. Reform will promise televised shooting of boats, burning hotels with asylum seekers, a department for deportations, disappearances of foreigners and non-white UK passport holders.
First thing this government did was to cancel the Rwanda scheme. If you do that on day and then turn around and do this on day 300 you wouldn't trust it. Its totally incoherent.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 May 2025 11:36 (five months ago)
You can't give concessions to Indian migrants one week to close down a trade deal and then turn around the next with these announcements. If you want the racist vote Reform will tell you that deal will be cancelled day one.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 May 2025 11:40 (five months ago)
If you want a nazi for a neighbour, vote Labour
― crisp, Monday, 12 May 2025 12:14 (five months ago)
I suspect part of the reason they're doing this is to force Reform to stake out an even more extreme position to maintain blue water between them, which would put them on a collision course with industry and impact their ability to be seen as a respectable, professional future government, etc. I don't think this will have any chance of success, though. For all the rhetoric, there won't really be a substantial impact to net migration and Reform will just be able to point to the number as further proof of Labour incompetence, etc.
― ShariVari, Monday, 12 May 2025 12:22 (five months ago)
Plus of course it normalises the extreme position and puts it out there on national TV for dissemination by shitheads.
― triste et cassé (gyac), Monday, 12 May 2025 12:27 (five months ago)
really need a party to stand up and speak for the huge amount of people who absolutely hate this rhetoric. greens have been too reticent, there's a leadership election coming up so maybe they will get better at this.
― zoloft keeps liftin' me (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 12 May 2025 12:29 (five months ago)
Farage couldn't really wish for a more incapable and enabling Labour PM. He boosts the Reform message and everybody still hates him (including the racists) and considers him so lacking in integrity that next GE will be a cakewalk for Reform. Can see why much of the UK media portray McSweeney as a strategic genius master of dark arts etc... yes, he's killing it - 7pts behind Reform and the party en route to getting their arse handed to them after historically bad local election results.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 May 2025 12:32 (five months ago)
Pretty impressive to be getting attacked from the left by David Aaronovich and the Confederation of British Industry. I think the tone has been misjudged badly enough to see a few of the typical apologists for Starmer pushing back too.
― ShariVari, Monday, 12 May 2025 13:29 (five months ago)
There's a bit at the press conference where someone asked him if he'd put a hard cap and he said that he wouldn't because previous governments have and
"The only thing that links those prime ministers and the various caps or quotas or limits they put in place is – every single one of them failed, and therefore going down the failed route is not a sensible way for me, as with everything that I do, serious, pragmatic, looking at the things that will actually make a material difference."
The urge to shout "ARE YOU READING YOUR STAGE DIRECTIONS?"
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 12 May 2025 13:30 (five months ago)
Stop making Spitting Image good satire!
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 12 May 2025 13:31 (five months ago)
― zoloft keeps liftin' me (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 12 May 2025 13:29 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Starmer taking this approach feels like a gift to the Lib Dems? With Labour, the Tories and Reform all taking the position that the last 25 years of immigration policy has been a catastrophe, and competing over who can be the most 'tough', the Lib Dems can probably pick up a lot of support by just espousing what was the mainstream, moderate position until the last few years?
(This is also maybe another reason why the LDs likely won't attack the anti-immigration rhetoric as hard as people here would like? because they don't need to take a particularly left/liberal stance on the issue to benefit, just be less bad than the other parties)
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 12 May 2025 13:45 (five months ago)
(All of this second to it just being evil)
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 12 May 2025 13:45 (five months ago)
xp although I've just checked the BBC news website, and this is apparently the line the Lib Dems are choosing to take:
The home affairs spokeswoman for the Liberal Democrats, Lisa Smart, says the government is right in "taking steps to fix our broken immigration system"."After the previous Conservative government's dire mismanagement, our immigration system has been left in tatters and public trust has been shattered," Smart says.But, she warns, that the government must have a "clear plan" to make it easier to recruit British workers to fill vacancies instead, "to ensure these changes don't have unintended consequences for our economy".
"After the previous Conservative government's dire mismanagement, our immigration system has been left in tatters and public trust has been shattered," Smart says.
But, she warns, that the government must have a "clear plan" to make it easier to recruit British workers to fill vacancies instead, "to ensure these changes don't have unintended consequences for our economy".
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 12 May 2025 13:54 (five months ago)
If you just assume most of the big parties are run by crypto-racist cowards you can't go far wrong
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 May 2025 13:58 (five months ago)
Caught a snippet of starmer on the news and he was going on about pressure on services etc maybe I've missed it but has he or anyone in the Tory party ever come out and given a figure as to what the maximum number of the UK population should be where there WOULDN'T be pressure on public services?? Does anyone even know?
― oscar bravo, Monday, 12 May 2025 20:48 (five months ago)
Or is it just spurious bullshit?
― oscar bravo, Monday, 12 May 2025 20:49 (five months ago)
call me naive but surely the more people working here and paying tax, the better financed our public services should be?
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Monday, 12 May 2025 21:00 (five months ago)
We just need him to come out with "we're a tiny island and we haven't got room for any more people" now.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Monday, 12 May 2025 21:38 (five months ago)
what the maximum number of the UK population should be where there WOULDN'T be pressure on public services??The London population is only about 600K more now than it was in 1951 but ofc these cunts don't care about factual numbers.
― nashwan, Monday, 12 May 2025 23:20 (five months ago)
The refusal to set a target, which they know they’re not going to hit, is pretty telling. The proposals are estimated to reduce net migration by around 80k-100k a year, if successful (which they won’t be). In short - net migration of around 700k a year is a squalid experiment in open borders that has done incalculable damage to the country and net migration of around 600k a year is rigorously controlled, Britain-first, exercise in patriotic governance. I genuinely don’t think you’d find anyone, of any political stripe, who finds that convincing.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 08:29 (five months ago)
possibly the only convincing part of it was the racist rhetoric, which was definitely racist and openly stigmatising immigrants. Unless your name is Michael Walker from a pisspoor left-wing youtube channel. He was trying to argue Starmer's words were not pointedly racist enough to be compared to Enoch Powell. What a fucking joke pundit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 08:48 (five months ago)
Said conparison came from Zarah Sultanna btw, I know ppl itt have a lot of scorn for her & other left wing lab ppl for playing along too much but this kinda pushback is still valuable imo.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 09:10 (five months ago)
God my typing's gone to shit since I caved to posting from my phone.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 09:11 (five months ago)
The conservatives were probably pretty successful in maintaining this type of story throughout the 2010s, until right wing voters eventually realized the Tories aren't anti-immigration at all, something which I think may be difficult to course correct for.
― anvil, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 09:56 (five months ago)
I think the Tories were essentially anti-migration but willing to make compromises - essentially pulling pretty much every lever they could to make the process of migration more difficult, the hiring of workers more onerous, the environment more hostile, etc, but balancing that against the need to maintain a functioning economy, subsidise higher education and staff care homes, etc.
Labour will have to make the same compromises, but are starting from a position where they’re claiming those compromises are a net negative.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 10:10 (five months ago)
I feel like the Tories wanted to present the appearance of being anti-migration but for economic reasons in practice were not so in actuality (at least not in the aggregate). The problem with setting targets with no intention of meeting them is it starts to look suspicious after a while and is probably a key element in loss of trust from voters. They also weirdly didn't really seem that invested in blaming anyone for their inability to meet those targets, coasting on brand name complacency. If they had bothered to lie more effectively or sell some kind of story might have got away with it
Labour feels different in that they seemingly are invested in chasing a particular subset of voters around the country pestering them and listening to them and hearing their concerns and writing them down
― anvil, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 10:24 (five months ago)
Which seems a losing strategy because even though voters might say they want to be listened to they absolutely do not, and the more listening you do the less respect they have
― anvil, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 10:26 (five months ago)
I think tory anti immigration presentation always came with explicit caveats, i.e. rich ppl welcome.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 10:31 (five months ago)
tbh, I think you often had a lot of infighting between the Home Sec responsible for hitting the number and the Treasury, Education and Health briefs responsible for making sure the country doesn’t collapse. I wonder if the same if true now. We know Phillipson is on the outs. Possible that Reeves and Streeting are also being big-dogged by Starmer’s team.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 10:54 (five months ago)
I think at first they loved Phillipson because they did keep sending her to the press to do her 99% jabbering automaton routine. I hope Reeves is getting dumped soon, even though there are not any good outcomes anymore. Apart from when someone sets fire to Kieth's door, lol.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 11:06 (five months ago)
Famously May hated Cameron / Osborne after they gave her the 10k immigration target and she put the Hostile(r) Environment framework into practice, then later realised that they really didn't care, they just thought it was an impressive sounding number but they never expected her to hit it.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 11:22 (five months ago)
*as I demonise the tiny % of ppl who don't speak English and giving juice to the 'I can't hear English on the trains anymore' racists* I am not Enoch Powell!
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 12:22 (five months ago)
Keir "Rivers of Chud" Starmer
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 12:26 (five months ago)
It was quite funny to see the Guardian claiming that this “reversed decades of Labour policy”, as though they’d forgotten about Blunkett, Reid, etc, and who introduced English tests for immigration in the first place.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/feb/24/immigration.immigrationandpublicservices
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 12:32 (five months ago)
Props to Eleanor Penny for coining EUNUCH POWELL.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 12:43 (five months ago)
When I think about it, the "island of strangers" phrase not only refers back to Enoch Powell but also the "we're just a tiny island, we don't have any more room" arguments beloved of racist pea-brains.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 12:43 (five months ago)
One thing I've found about native British people is they're always so friendly and expansive, love to hang out with their neighbours, treat everyone like family. I can see how the arrival of those individualistic introverts from the Global South can cause some problems with that.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 12:46 (five months ago)
I say this neutrally, but yes - the U.K. is largely a nation of people who mind their own business and occasionally take in Amazon parcels for each other.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 12:52 (five months ago)
the people who only think about immigration will vote for Farage at the next GE no matter what Labour do. Have they focus grouped this? It's not very complex.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 13:25 (five months ago)
It's absolutely genius politics to ensure 24/7 all channels media coverage of your opponent's main policy plank
That's besides the immorality of Labour's racist cheerleading
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 14:09 (five months ago)
"I believe that that is Morgan McSweeney... but the buck lies with the prime minister"MP Zarah Sultana says the PM's Chief of Staff was responsible for the language used by Sir Keir Starmer yesterday in his migration speech, which she compared to Enoch Powell. #Newsnight pic.twitter.com/PX6RJqgCb0— BBC Newsnight (@BBCNewsnight) May 13, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 09:23 (five months ago)
Pumping shit into rivers of blood
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 09:30 (five months ago)
I know you're angry about immigration. I get it.Mark my words: I will take back control of our borders.That means cutting migration, ending the use of asylum hotels, and ramping up our efforts to stop small boat crossings.We will smash the people smuggling gangs at source.— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) May 14, 2025
Is the median voter ‘angry about immigration’? Not ‘concerned that immigration might be too high’ or ‘worried about the cost of asylum hotels’, etc, but ‘angry about immigration’?
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 09:43 (five months ago)
Migrants will come here. Looks like we want to shoot them because racism.
With depressing timing following this morning's immigration white paper, Labour's Border Security Asylum and Immigration Bill is in the Commons this evening.@theSNP have tabled an amendment calling for the introduction of more safe and legal asylum routes. pic.twitter.com/4AQyYwUv6H— Matt Hamill (@Mattph_82) May 12, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 09:50 (five months ago)
Voting this amendment down means more smuggling.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 09:51 (five months ago)
Calz otm, if you’re genuinely angry about immigration you’re voting Reform. Rather than just agreeing/validating these weirdos any other party would be better off a) not disenfranchising the people who aren’t angry and b) maybe actually trying to change the minds of a few of those ‘angry’ people. By accepting and aping the Reform messaging all Labour are doing is creating more Reform voters because they’ll never be as strong as them on ‘we’re the racist maniac party’. Obviously that’s without even thinking about the moral/ethical aspect or actually ‘doing the right thing’ which is completely out the window at this point.
― crisp, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 10:07 (five months ago)
https://bsky.app/profile/iandunt.bsky.social/post/3lp4llghrgk2r
I wouldn’t bet against the liberal pundit class returning to the ship but this stuff is doing genuine damage to the idea of Labour as the ‘adults in the room’ they’ve been pushing during the Starmer era.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 10:16 (five months ago)
As ever, it comes down to the fact that the Labour Right are not doing this stuff reluctantly as a vote-winning strategy but because this is who they are and what they believe
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 11:47 (five months ago)
Which is the inconvenient truth that your Duntys do the Men in Black brain wipe every morning to avoid
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 11:49 (five months ago)
Yep
― crisp, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 11:49 (five months ago)
tbf to dunty his brain already did that anyway
― mark s, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 12:14 (five months ago)
New frontiers in neuro-evolution
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 14:16 (five months ago)
Of course it's extremely adult and sensible to aid and abet a genocide which could eventually lead to arrest warrants for the pm and the home secretary. Starmer and colleagues have supported the prosecution of the genocide since before they got into government. Dunt and other prominent media liberals have zero excuse for supporting Starmer since June 2024. Fun to see them turn puce now that the fascism is at their door but they are fellow travelers of genocidaires and that should be shoved in their faces forever
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 14:28 (five months ago)
An embarrassing, schoolboy comeback from Starmer but look at what it does to Reeves. pic.twitter.com/Hn23HbAxK0— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) May 14, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 16:31 (five months ago)
labour increasingly resembling the stock sitcom plot where a guy arranges two dates at the same time, dashing frantically from venue to venue pic.twitter.com/ETb6bXLLWS— yoshimi red (@nise_yoshimi) May 13, 2025
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 17:33 (five months ago)
I'm not one for conspiracy theories but if I was Victoria Starmer I would be curious as to why a handsome young Ukrainian sex worker has attempted to set fire to 2 of their properties, lool
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 18 May 2025 05:24 (five months ago)
Nothing much happening this past week, then.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 06:59 (five months ago)
Kieth has become such a revered global icon on the big stage that some hostile state is sending a sex-worker assassin to set fire to dogshits on the doorsteps at two of his props.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 07:22 (five months ago)
Well, that's something...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:33 (five months ago)
(1)It's Thieves Fall Out' time: Pat McFadden + Rachel Reeves 'let it be known' they wanted a Winter Fuel U-Turn , but Starmer was too slow - absurd for Reeves to try get credit for wanting to junk her own policy , & McFadden as 'nice guy ' ? via the Times https://t.co/F22uHGf4nX pic.twitter.com/5QV2QsExZn— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) May 23, 2025
Starmer has become such a weak lame-duck that Reeves feels bold (and shameless) enough to try and hang the blame on him for not u-turning on her own terrible and widely unpopular policies (that she has always unapologetically defended) in a timely enough fashion. What a bunch of vile, ruthless brigands, lol.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 23 May 2025 14:20 (five months ago)
here's hoping an anonymous figure invites Benoit Blanc to the next cabinet meeting
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 May 2025 14:26 (five months ago)
The "Thieves fall out" quip from Hughes is very unfair on thieves, who really don't deserve to be compared to such sub-human scum.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 23 May 2025 14:26 (five months ago)
it looks like Rayner is emerging ahead of Streeting as the leadership challenger. Some of her proposals, aside doing a wealth tax rather than raiding disabled benefits, are just straight up knicking shit from Reform. Like restricting migrant workers access to UC. And as Soloman Hughes points out, this kind of policy ends up affecting all low pay workers after it has fucked over the migrant workers it is targeted at. In short, what a wretched party. They can all fuck off.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 23 May 2025 14:42 (five months ago)
not the time yet i suppose so apologies but we're gonna watch some intense double standards and willful blindness from news media about the nature of fascism and other racist stuff that we can discuss later over the next few days
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 26 May 2025 19:34 (five months ago)
Yup..
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 May 2025 19:54 (five months ago)
is a depressing illustration of uk 2025 that the police need to make a quick statement that a person theyve arrested is british and white to try to reduce the likelihood of people attempting to burn down migrant hotels
― oscar bravo, Monday, 26 May 2025 20:03 (five months ago)
Sad that someone drove a car into people.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 26 May 2025 20:14 (five months ago)
Amazing how nobody seems to have been killed by this.
What trauma tho'. Just awful..
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 May 2025 14:53 (five months ago)
And this too...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/may/27/driver-rawal-rehman-killed-three-year-old-louisa-palmisano-12-year-prison-sentence
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 May 2025 15:01 (five months ago)
so farage has promised to lift the two child benefit cap and now labour want to revisit it lmaoooooo
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 27 May 2025 20:35 (five months ago)
they will find such a risibly contemptible Starmer-Labour way of ineffectively conceding ground to Farage, who is attacking them fiscally from the left - that they will basically never recover from it. They will cease to exist as a serious political party beyond this. ho ho ho!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 20:47 (five months ago)
Labour has gone from Green New Deal to Missiles and Arms Deal in the space of 12 months, if Ed Mili had a shred of dignity he'd tell them to shove it
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 June 2025 10:10 (five months ago)
Ed Milli even just accepting a position in a cabinet with Reeves/Starmer/Streeting/Kendall says to me, as well-meaning and nice as he seems - he has fuck all integrity, let alone any dignity. He did grow up in public within New Labour in the 90's so I guess he is very much a product of his ghastly environment. Getting shat on by people who didn't consider him serious and voted for his brother in 2010 is his thing I guess.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 1 June 2025 10:43 (five months ago)
the friends of big weapon corps say the entirety of Europe needs to pursue a highly unpopular ultra austerity/remilitarization program to take on the threat of Putin. Phew, it's a good this is the free democratic world rather than one of these terrible autocracies and we get a vote on these things.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 1 June 2025 10:59 (five months ago)
https://i.imgur.com/nocAY8k.png
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 2 June 2025 08:23 (five months ago)
imaging those heads popping up from nowhere like Peter Vaughan and Michael Palin at the end of Brazil
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 2 June 2025 08:27 (five months ago)
oak unwoke aged whiskey
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 June 2025 08:33 (five months ago)
LOL "conservative socialism"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jun/02/blue-labour-group-urges-ministers-root-out-dei-win-over-reform-voters
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Monday, 2 June 2025 08:41 (five months ago)
the sheer fucking nerve to call their article "What is to be Done"gonna invent a time machine so I can bring back Chernyshevsky to bitch slap each of these tory cunts personally
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 2 June 2025 09:00 (five months ago)
I work in the civil service and honest to god where are all these high powered DEI jobs it's a fantasy and these cunts know it's a fantasy
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 June 2025 11:42 (five months ago)
Yep, at best it’s usually like ‘fire warden’ where it’s added as a voluntary part of someone’s existing job.
― ShariVari, Monday, 2 June 2025 11:47 (five months ago)
if this was actually a real country rather than a US vassal state our stupid fucking politicians wouldn't slavishly parrot whatever bullshit right-wing talking points are leading over the pond.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 June 2025 11:57 (five months ago)
> where are all these high powered DEI jobs
tory party leaders
― koogs, Monday, 2 June 2025 11:57 (five months ago)
to be fair badenoch’s cruelty and callousness really earned her that spot
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 2 June 2025 13:30 (five months ago)
Where next for Maurice Glasman? A cameo on Red Scare? Listening to numbers stations in a Shanghai warehouse with Nick Land? https://t.co/b8fcLKF6QQ pic.twitter.com/DHuJmx1cYa— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) June 2, 2025
Blue Labour in the news twice in one day.
― ShariVari, Monday, 2 June 2025 17:53 (five months ago)
Ok
BREAKING: A fourth man has been arrested over a series of fires at properties and a car linked to Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer.https://t.co/B4kSqSvdx0📺 Sky 501 and YouTube pic.twitter.com/XOGnu7Bvp6— Sky News (@SkyNews) June 2, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 June 2025 22:14 (five months ago)
I see Badenoch is campaigning to make it ok to burn the Quran in public...
(DM sticking to the "Koran" spelling)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 3 June 2025 09:20 (five months ago)
For the record: pic.twitter.com/jUTEhXcEtR— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) June 6, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 June 2025 18:04 (five months ago)
absolutely disgusting party and maximum respect for Zara repeatedly and unrelentingly linking Mandelson with Paedophile Island.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 6 June 2025 18:13 (five months ago)
I'm in a weird place where some of the right-wing conspiracy cranks are saying things about Starmer that give me pause for thought. I mean, is there a hostile state conducting dark ops against Starmer or does he just like fucking young Ukrainian guys who look like Tin Tin. Either way I honestly believe he is horrible human being and I really don't fucking care tbh!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 6 June 2025 18:19 (five months ago)
Critical support, etc.
Take That, Joy Division, New Order and now The BRITs.Great to see Manchester’s music legacy continue as they take centre stage and host the BRIT Awards for the very first time.— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) June 9, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 June 2025 20:33 (five months ago)
You can tell he's a real fan of music.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 9 June 2025 20:40 (five months ago)
Kier has clearly been studying Magic Johnson's posting history, I don't see how he nails that exact overlap of obviousness and obliviousness otherwise
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 9 June 2025 22:59 (five months ago)
The Durutti Column, Crispy Ambulance, The Passage and now The BRITs, which apparently stands for British Record Industry Trusts Show - in which case shouldn't it be The BRITS? Also who is 'they' referring to? JD have reformed and are hosting an awards ceremony?
I can imagine Student Starmer enjoying Love Will Tear Us Apart actually.
― submission drift (Matt #2), Monday, 9 June 2025 23:10 (five months ago)
interesting that he's chosen two confirmed tories (Barlow and Curtis) and not the many new labour melts from the Manchester music scene, let alone the socialists.
― can't complain, mustn't grumble, melancholy apple c (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 07:03 (four months ago)
Where were Freddie & the Dreamers is what I want to know. Gary Barlow is from Cheshire btw, closer to Liverpool than Manchester.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 07:07 (four months ago)
his real passion is for young muscly Latvian sex-workers with tats that look like Tin Tin. He probably isn't even aware of the political affiliation of various crap UK musicians, he's extremely incurious and dumb about pop culture or just any culture.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 07:12 (four months ago)
tbf I can also recall Rebecca Long Bailey sounding like an absolute tool when trying to evoke the spirt of Madchester (and The Fall) in a stupid clueless sounding pol soundbite. And she's from Salford!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 07:17 (four months ago)
He isn’t, but he pretends to be, which is clearly worse.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 07:18 (four months ago)
checking out where the other members of take that are from:Howard Donald: DroylsdenJason Orange: ManchesterMark Owen: OldhamRobbie Williams: Stokeso looks like Kier is a big Jason Orange fan.
― can't complain, mustn't grumble, melancholy apple c (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 07:19 (four months ago)
of course he'd be an Orangeman to the core!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 07:30 (four months ago)
You guys, guess who toils in the No. 10 comms department, generating social media for the PM? Only Abby the Milifandom girl - who is now in her late 20s.
Maybe she’s trying to get sacked by not mentioning Oasis?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 07:41 (four months ago)
her commitment to Ed Milli fandom cost her a place at Cambridge and now she has the worst job in UK politics.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 07:56 (four months ago)
https://i.imgur.com/7lovVZ1.jpeg
a decade is a long time in politics
― conrad, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 08:31 (four months ago)
The glorious thing about pols trying to be cool is it shows up them and it shows up the whole pathetic enterprise that is Cool
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 09:26 (four months ago)
Starmer is a huge indie-vinyl freak. There’s probably a 10% chance he was on ILX back in the day and almost certainly would have been if he was about ten years younger. His whole persona of ‘I enjoy nothing other than Arsenal and doing my job’ is completely contrived because he thinks that voters can’t relate to anyone with niche interests.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 10:07 (four months ago)
Her LinkedIn page is very interesting - lots of FBEU jobs and other centre-left sinecures.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 10:08 (four months ago)
It has definitely been weird watching him get slowly crushed as part of succumbing to the powers around him, not saying he was ever some thrilling dynamic figure but he now has become the "electability" stepford wife.
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 10:13 (four months ago)
Kieth should have done like Tom Watson and hit Last FM up with his Field Mice playlist or whatever. He didn't really let go with his passion for indie rock in that Wedding Present book. Such a spiritually constipated man. lol, remember when Gordon Brown pretended to like Artic Monkeys for a few seconds and then admitted he couldn't name anything by them, but had noted that they were very loud. And he had mainly classical music and crap political speeches on his ipod. Including the one by Bob Geldof at Live Aid ..lol
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 10:24 (four months ago)
For Labour Right leaders now there is no safe zone for them, they can't even just say "look I'm an old cunt with mostly Radio 3 on, nothing to see here". Oh no that went badly at the focus groups - classical music denotes weirdness and nazi paedophiles and serial killers amongst red wall small business owners!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 10:39 (four months ago)
Kier also used to be a proud fan of the novels of James Kelman, an enthusiasm he mysteriously forgot as soon as he came to power. He now claims his favourite book is Roy of the Rovers.
― Piedie Gimbel, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 10:42 (four months ago)
Corbyn was very light touch about culture iirc. Just seemed very unpretentious and open. And no matter what he posted he'd either get lampooned from the right or 6000 FBPEs posting yeah but Brexit. And it never seemed to put him off. That was kind of the way do things imo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 10:52 (four months ago)
Although I think he did sound like a total arse once, I think it was at Prenton Park. Doing the pol enthusing about how earthy and working class rock music is, or some bollox like that!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 10:54 (four months ago)
He did pretend he supported Arsenal while having no interest in football whatsoever but I suppose they're in his constituency.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 10:57 (four months ago)
I also have no interest in football but I do appreciate the pro-Palestine Arsenal stickers I see around Finsbury Park.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 11:02 (four months ago)
I have no idea what his inner life is like, maybe he just doesn't have one.
― can't complain, mustn't grumble, melancholy apple c (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 11:03 (four months ago)
https://jacobin.com/2019/06/ulysses-corbyn-media-james-joyce
― conrad, Tuesday, 10 June 2025 11:10 (four months ago)
when Corbyn cabinet era Starmer went to his first global Trilateral Commission meeting, with the other UK attendant being Michael Gove. That might have been moment when he thought, oh shit, in order to be a serious ghoul I'm really going to have to ditch the vinyl indie-rock collection and the James Kelman novels. And since then, in a reverse Dorian Gray his public face has turned into a decaying puffer fish and he looks at least 20 years older.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 11 June 2025 05:50 (four months ago)
What kind of man includes Take That but not The Stone Roses?#ResignNow#NotMyPresident— Geoff Norcott (@GeoffNorcott) June 9, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 11 June 2025 07:12 (four months ago)
This was my point yesterday, I love all the sad twats bleating that he didn't name their favourite corny old normie alternative legends
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 June 2025 08:15 (four months ago)
oh man what a bunch of dregs. If Kieth is a closet C86 boy, then he probably thinks the Roses are unspeakably shite anyway.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 11 June 2025 08:29 (four months ago)
When you lose the 6 Music crowd you lose the election, simple as
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 June 2025 08:31 (four months ago)
early Roses is pretty much C86 tho, Sally Cinnamon would have easily fit in to the Sarah records roster
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 11 June 2025 08:33 (four months ago)
the Trilateral Commission ruled that the Stone Roses are an acceptable band for right-wing ghouls who are willing to launch nuclear missiles to publicly like.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 11 June 2025 08:36 (four months ago)
do we reckon sir keir has done an e?
important metric.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 11 June 2025 08:52 (four months ago)
could imagine him microdosing a gram of crystal mdma over a few nights combined with some heavy whiskey drinking.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 11 June 2025 08:59 (four months ago)
probably too much of a supercilious barrister cunt to kneck an e like a commoner
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 11 June 2025 09:03 (four months ago)
Sir Kieth win back the red wall by telling us about your ket habit challenge
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 June 2025 09:30 (four months ago)
at least it explain why there is always a strong urine aura around him
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 11 June 2025 09:33 (four months ago)
what the fuck even is an affordable home? I think the socioeconomic groups who can actually afford these affordables are a shrinking cohort and this not how you fix a housing crisis. Even if the chancellor wasn't the widely hated piece of shit RR it wouldn't make any difference. This is the hitting the limits of how far a Labour govt will go, just pure fucking garbage.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 12 June 2025 06:17 (four months ago)
A friend of mine got a no fault eviction and was told he had to get out by the end of last month. Somebody from the estate agents hired by the landlord accused him of being "uncooperative" and a professional gardener turned up and did £180 worth of work he had to pay for and now he's gone. Everyone last one of these parasites needs liquidating.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 12 June 2025 06:23 (four months ago)
Liz Kendall wants disabled people to go to work and their f/t carers to go to work because that increases their opportunities. Basically she's talking like a morally warped psychopath at this point and I just want her to die tbh! Maybe she should try the dignity that death offers, it's not like anyone will miss the vile freak. Perhaps, apart from her millionaire financier boyfriend.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 14 June 2025 17:22 (four months ago)
Maybe the most morally empty UK politician that's ever attained cabinet office, that bundle of stupidity and malice is a very special combination
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 June 2025 17:34 (four months ago)
she tried to run on a hyper-austerity platform in the 2015 leadership election and got 3% of the vote. And I think with what is left of the Labour membership she is only marginally less despised than Rachel Reeves. But yeah I love democracy and am so happy to live in a country such fine democratic traditions being upheld by uk political parties etc.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 14 June 2025 17:44 (four months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di60NYGu03Y
― emil.y, Saturday, 14 June 2025 17:53 (four months ago)
Starmer launching a national enquiry into grooming gangs with a focus on ethnicity, largely because Enron Tusk told him to. Good thing nothing like that goes on in Westminster!
― submission drift (Matt #2), Saturday, 14 June 2025 18:02 (four months ago)
Yeah I hope the Get The Tories Out kids are pleased about their role on getting utter fucking fascism out
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 June 2025 18:25 (four months ago)
I can't believe this is the same human rights lawyer who once in his younger days advised police not to investigate people who committed arson attacks against grt people, he's dramatically changed since then - even more of a fascist right-wing cunt.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 14 June 2025 18:38 (four months ago)
the worst of it is there were no incredlibly obvious signs that if you voted for these cunts you were sanctioning violent repression so, y'know, thoughts and prayers
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 June 2025 22:21 (four months ago)
set of points -
"Teenage Kicks" is dogshit and don't get me started
Paed was a big fan
God bless the aggravated and sensible
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 June 2025 22:31 (four months ago)
the Kids https://t.co/1ZK5BzQPvC pic.twitter.com/VfbjzsA0tk— Michael Walsh (@thatbloodyMikey) June 15, 2025
!!!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 15 June 2025 20:10 (four months ago)
Who wins on a head to head?(I guess the one on the right isn't a Corbs son)
https://i0.wp.com/skwawkbox.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/corbyn-and-sons2.png
― I hate them worse than leopards (Matt #2), Sunday, 15 June 2025 20:29 (four months ago)
maybe I'm being a bit Catholic here, but as far as I know Corbz doesn't pay for sex. Apparently he has a healthy skin complexion for a man of his age and is popular enough with birds to have various ex-wives and doesn't generally pay for sex. Well Starmer is a whole different case!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 15 June 2025 20:39 (four months ago)
The one on the right is the Corbs grandson.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 15 June 2025 21:38 (four months ago)
Photo du Jour: Prime Minister @Keir_Starmer picks up the US-UK trade deal off the ground after @POTUS Donald Trump dropped it during a meeting at the G7 Summit in Alberta, Canada. By Stefan Rousseau/PA pic.twitter.com/RTac3kRks0— Stefan Rousseau (@StefanRousseau) June 16, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 06:16 (four months ago)
yes, we already had a defacto trade deal of sorts with the US. If they drop a pocket fluffed old humbug onto some dogshit on the pavement, then we've got to pick it up and eat it and say thank you very much, sir!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 17 June 2025 06:56 (four months ago)
there is a PIP expert on youtube who says that f/t carers can stick Liz Kendall's words back up her arse by becoming a self employed personal assistant and charging the 35 hours per week to the local authority, possibly through Direct Payments. The LA rates they pay for carers may vary region to region, but basically this gives you a payrise from £83.30 per week to something in the £500-600 range.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 17 June 2025 08:32 (four months ago)
I'm surprised that a Labour whip has resigned over the PIP cuts. There will have to be an internal PLP inquiry into how someone with real, actual principles was promoted to whip. The corporate ghouls running the show must have been having an off day when that happened.
Lisa Nandy was talking about the moral uprightness of impoverishing the sick and disabled who nobody wants to employ and forcing them into jobs that they cannot do and will not get hired for. When politicians get so used to lying all the time they can just pretend that it isn't an in-work benefit and ignore that there will be disabled people who have to stop working if the health component of PIP is cut.
While all this is happening there is always money for aiding and abetting a rogue state in their warmongering and genocide projects. Fuck this country.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 June 2025 07:56 (four months ago)
sadly if you're taking a principled stand as a Labour MP you've already fucked it by still being a Labour MP
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 June 2025 08:02 (four months ago)
which is a thought that will never cross John McD's mind. Even after the pathetic resistance to the PIP cuts feebly plays out and it gets voted through in parliament.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 June 2025 08:06 (four months ago)
Because they aren't really interested in impact assessments I think the carnage these cuts will cause will end up stressing local authority budgets. In the end they will prove to be very expensive cuts, not just in terms of human lives lost over them.
It's as ham-fisted as anything from this Starmer government. They sent out a consultation paper to disabled PIP recipients with lots of insulting, condescending and disablist insults disguised as questions. And apparently one part say "could you please expand more on your answer to question 10". And there actually is no question 10, it goes straight from 9 to 11.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 June 2025 08:14 (four months ago)
i mean the whole MO of PIP is if you ask a particular set of questions you can only get the answers you want
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 June 2025 08:16 (four months ago)
I've just had a care package approved by local authority and contributions will have to be made to top up what the care staff are paid and towards transport. What happens to disabled people in care packages like this who fall foul of the 4 point rule? Do they just lose everything, like all support. The kind of people who can make decisions like without thinking about how they impact other human being. Are either extremely careless and thoughtless in how they apply themselves to their job or they are just basically on the Hitler end of the psychopathy spectrum.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 June 2025 08:32 (four months ago)
scuse me, my grammar/spelling is even more done fucked than usual today!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 June 2025 08:36 (four months ago)
it takes months to do a proper diagnosis for any kind of neurodivergence so obviously 30 minutes getting grilled by a physio on overtime is going to be just as accurate
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 June 2025 08:38 (four months ago)
Are either extremely careless and thoughtless in how they apply themselves to their job or they are just basically on the Hitler end of the psychopathy spectrum.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 June 2025 bookmarkflaglink
The likes of Jacob-Rees Mogg would be more thoughtful than this lot.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 June 2025 08:48 (four months ago)
in the long term it will go like a US style disability benefits system. I think over there they have a list of conditions and if your condition isn't on there, then too bad, you won't even get an application form. Because obviously a deranged right-wing authoritarian dystopia is the model country and a shining example for all the west to follow. Now get in line for your food vouchers.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 June 2025 08:50 (four months ago)
recent observation is that almost everybody with a physical condition - fucked back, hips etc - is getting a capable for work decision now, because obviously if you're a Lithuanian brickie who can't stand up any more you should still be able to bag a job in admin
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 June 2025 08:59 (four months ago)
yeah obviously applying for jobs you have zero experience in can open up massive opportunities for re-skilling, if you don't get sanctioned before finally landing one of these jobs after getting turned down a few dozen times!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 June 2025 09:06 (four months ago)
minimum wage employers out there gagging to make reasonable adjustments
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 June 2025 09:17 (four months ago)
at least by the time AI has replaced all the minimum wage sedentary jobs there will be the self-euthanasia option, if you can afford it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 21 June 2025 09:25 (four months ago)
LMAO Otto English has finally seen fit to delete his “It’s nice isn’t it? The quiet” tweet https://t.co/xwLWGiabhh pic.twitter.com/SdygTBkaEW— Hon. PolProf of Agile Ceremonies (@CeilNoyle) June 22, 2025
Kieth currently has a -57 approval rating and on Wednesday he is going to push through a social murder bill that even lots of the meltiest MPs are opposed to, mainly just out career preservation rather than compassion. Also this post that aged like milk in the Sahara has finally been deleted.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 June 2025 14:32 (four months ago)
Hilarious how this christian crank is just gonna block it.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jun/22/wes-streeting-nhs-assisted-dying-service-mps-commons-bill
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 June 2025 15:24 (four months ago)
there are much cheaper methods of getting rid of useless eaters, can't be having communist euthanasia, says Wes. Some very credible and knowledgeable people have all criticised strongly, Leadbeater's death bill and her dishonest replies to any serious scrutiny. Knowing the kind of MP she is, then it is going to be bad and pretty much a gateway to an Aktion T4 program. I post this without any intentional hyperbole.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 June 2025 15:31 (four months ago)
I have very big reservations about assisted dying but they centre around a) elder abuse potential and b) it becoming a ‘pathway’ for disability. Also because Kim Leadbeater is a plank.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 22 June 2025 15:32 (four months ago)
she is an awful person. She probably misuses the word "compassionate" about 300 times a week and I think she is about as equally compassionate as she is brainy.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 June 2025 15:46 (four months ago)
I'm probably easily amused, but was choking with laughter on the bus the other day after seeing some stupid Labour MP sanctimoniously posting about a bit of paint being daubed on a plane and getting totally ratioed to fuckry by a childish and crude reply. Twitter still brings it sometimes!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 June 2025 15:53 (four months ago)
I am very very (very very) strongly in favour of assisted dying but I agree that I don't trust this fucking government to manage it well at all, and if you look at it in conjunction with their treatment of disabled people it becomes chilling. I still think legalising it is the right thing, I just don't blame anyone for fearing the worst.
― emil.y, Sunday, 22 June 2025 15:56 (four months ago)
Making Leadbeater responsible for that bill was a disastrous decision, if there was any brains at the top of the party they'd realise she's a plank and not fit for a bill that requires layers and layers of complex safeguarding. A lot of her critics say all the safeguarding has been stripped away and she give vacuous dissembling answers to any serious scrutiny. Yeah, well she's a Labour MP of course, but even by these standards she is very dumb.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 June 2025 16:03 (four months ago)
I mean the party is being led by a human rights lawyer ffs!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 June 2025 16:10 (four months ago)
Kieth actually defended some ppl who set fire to RAF planes during the Iraq War. His defence in court was that they were trying to stop a war that wasn't technically legal. Now he'd have them on treason charges just for soft vandalism.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 June 2025 16:14 (four months ago)
In Neoliberal World, if you are a human rights lawyer and desire power, be prepared to dismantle human rights to jump yourself into the gang, I guess…
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 22 June 2025 17:22 (four months ago)
Every single thing that has a whiff of progress will be done incompetently or on the cheap...rail nationalization, any infrastructure or housing builds will be terrible due to planning regulation bonfires. Good stuff, if any, will happen by accident or bcz there's a lot of pressure due to events and any people responsible won't be able to shout about it bcz some scummy Lab right monster will want anything they aren't in control of destroyed.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 June 2025 18:07 (four months ago)
oh I yes, I think there is always incompetence by design in any Tory/Labour UK austerity govt. I'm not remotely surprised that they give a job that could have as profoundly wide reaching consequences as assisted dying bill to such a vacuous, nodding head moron.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 June 2025 18:26 (four months ago)
I decided to read the euthanasia legislation Starmer rammed through Parliament while the world was burning, and these are all amendments that were REJECTED from the bill. I am begging you to read this. No joke here. Keir Starmer is a psychopath and he is doing Aktion T4. pic.twitter.com/xbAQ9YI0ag— Eyup Lovely (@eyuplovely) June 22, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 June 2025 19:51 (four months ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GuDqThXXUAA1dcQ?format=png&name=small
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 June 2025 19:52 (four months ago)
That’s already prohibited in the bill itself.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 22 June 2025 20:41 (four months ago)
I genuinely hope that is correct, but just don't quite feel it is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 June 2025 20:44 (four months ago)
why would an amendment be rejected then added to a bill?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 June 2025 20:47 (four months ago)
if the bill already covers it, then cool. Just don't reject something that is already an essential component against it becoming T4. What the fuck am I getting wrong here?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 June 2025 20:54 (four months ago)
sorry, but all I can see here is a future where disabled people get liquidated, by other means than just disenfranchising them through PIP reforms.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 June 2025 20:58 (four months ago)
I have no idea about this particular bill but iirc usually if an amendment is proposed that's already in the original bill it gets rejected, presumably so amender doesn't get to claim they got it in.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 22 June 2025 20:59 (four months ago)
It’s a complex piece of legislation and I don’t think the full Hansard debate has been published yet but there is definitely a prohibition on any advertising to potential users. It allows for certain exceptions, which will be worked out later on. There was a vote on defining the specific exceptions before the bill was passed, which was rejected.
idk where this list of amendments came from or at what stage they were raised. The procedure is for only a handful of amendments and new clauses to be selected to be voted on during the session. There may be a semantic argument that ‘marketing’ is different from ‘advertising’, but it seems likely that the prohibition is intended to cover both.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 22 June 2025 20:59 (four months ago)
"There may be a semantic argument that ‘marketing’ is different from ‘advertising’"
this kind of bollocks becoming the thin line between life and death for potentially millions of vulnerable people over decades is nightmare fuel for me
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 22 June 2025 21:09 (four months ago)
It looks like it went in on the 13th - if you search for NC14 on the list of amendments for that day https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/59-01/0212/amend/terminally_ill_adults_day_rep_0613.pdf you can see it (from Kim Leadbetter) and a few after it trying to tighten it up.
If you look on the records of the debate, https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-06-13/debates/AD5D60DD-BDA2-4E12-A854-E2A356E1CF58/TerminallyIllAdults(EndOfLife)Bill and search for "new clause 14", there's a bunch of debate about it, the sub-amendments fail, the amendment passes.
If you look at the list of amendments for Friday gone https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/59-01/0212/amend/terminally_ill_adults_day_rep_0620.pdf and search for NC14, there's a few trying to amend that but it doesn't appear again - though it's not on the most recent version of the bill that I can find, which is from March: https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/59-01/0212/240212.pdf
(none of this is me saying "do your homework", it's a pain in the arse to go ferret all this stuff out, and I still don't entirely understand how the first amendment is waved through but the amendment to the amendment gets a vote).
What none of these are is amendment 89, which is the number on that big image.
The original bill had a section titled "Guidance about operation of Act" regarding how the Chief Medical Officer should prepare and publish guidance - the amendment New Clause 20 (Leadbetter again) suggests a new clause saying that no the Secretary of State has provide the guidance. That went through smoothly and Amendment 89 is saying "If NC20 goes through, delete the clause it's replacing".
There's an enormous (850-page) compendium of the committee stage here (https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/59-01/0012/PBC012_Terminally_Ill_Adults_1st-29th_Compilation_26_03_2025_REV.pdf) which does also have an amendment 89:
Amendment 89, in schedule 2, page 27, line 11, after“coerced” insert “, encouraged”.This amendment is consequential on Amendment 82
which is part of a bunch of extending things that aren't coercion but you still wouldn't want to have happen (it failed, partly I think because encouraging someone to suicide is already a crime).
Just picking a bunch of numbers at random from the image, I've no idea where he's getting any of them from?
I mean, some of it definitely happened - the Down Syndrome one wasn't selected for a vote, the financial hardship one went in with a very broad list of other conditions - but even the NCs he mentions don't match anything? Actually, no, the NC6 matches the actual NC16, which is the one I just mentioned with the broad list.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 22 June 2025 23:29 (four months ago)
Somehow, I still don't find any of this reassuring especially as you have quite a history of being a pedantic apologist of some pretty shitty politicians and melts of UK politics! I followed a guy on twitter who was monitoring the dark and tedious process of this bill. And yes, some of Shitbeater's harshest critics where actually Tories and melts, but I have absorbed lots of this over the last year and have no other opinion that this bill leads to a bad place. And none of this digging up NC14 parliamentary amendment to make the case that some lefty shitposter hasn't done thorough research before posting doesn't move my feelings on this by a fucking millimetre, pal!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 23 June 2025 04:33 (four months ago)
even if some lefty shitposter has just made some shit up to make the bill look more dangerous than it is, well whatever. It's not what I'd do, but still one thing I can guarantee - this bill will be used to get rid of vulnerable/disabled people. This is is not wild dystopic prediction. This will actually happen, sooner rather than later.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 23 June 2025 04:47 (four months ago)
The PIP shredding bill is going to be a Money bill, which means it can become law within one month of being voted for, even if the Lords vote it down. This is going to be horrible for millions of people as well, not just horrible, but fatal. Apparently all Labour MPs have to attend the 2nd reading, which means I think there is no abstain option. I don't know if this is a good or bad thing. But I have zero hope that the bill will be stopped.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 23 June 2025 05:24 (four months ago)
that Labour have two bills running in tandem, one that makes it lawful to put down disabled people and another that disenfranchises them and reduces their ability to afford the support they require to live and even work. Hmm ... pathways... solutions etc
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 23 June 2025 05:31 (four months ago)
to my mind that is why they put a vacuous hack like Shitbneater onto the assisted dying bill. It needed to be a terrible bill. Arguing over the details of parliamentary minutiae is worthless at this point, because it is already too late and such a vacuous moron of a politician is only capable of doing bad work.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 23 June 2025 05:37 (four months ago)
it seems Jeremy Corbyn is tabling an amendment... here comes the resistance .. sad lol
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 23 June 2025 05:42 (four months ago)
This is excruciating on the ‘Anorexia loophole’ (Mental capacity is not a test of mental illness as countless psychiatrists have tried to explain to the sponsor) https://t.co/Oh2bfQEo3t pic.twitter.com/7yqkg82H0h— teresa smith (@treesey) June 17, 2025
excruciating is the right word, jesus wept, no wonder they had to parachute her to a safe seat out of Batley where she was going to get her arse handed to her by voters.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 23 June 2025 07:54 (four months ago)
I mean she was previously a fucking "life coach" no wonder she's struggling to conceal her crank mental health beliefs when under heavy scrutiny!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 23 June 2025 08:51 (four months ago)
I'm not trying to be reassuring - I don't think this is a great idea or handled well, which is about what I'd expect from this government. I know you've got a very personal stake in this, calzino, and I wish you and yours all life and happiness. And I trust your instincts (maybe not all the way to Aktion T4).
So, for example, that amendment I mentioned replaces "the Chief Medical Officers should issue guidance" with "The Secretary of State should issue guidance", and increases the list of people that have to consulted (which already included people with learning difficulties and protected characteristics) to include "such persons appearing to represent providers of health or care services, including providers of palliative or end of life care, as the Secretary of State considers appropriate".
And the advertising one is the same, the amendment that got voted down was to tighten it up, but they want more leeway for the Secretary of State to do as they see fit. Which wouldn't be great even if the Health Secretary wasn't living ghoul Wes Streeting.
I'm probably softer on parts of the bill than some of you, in theory. So the 'financial hardship' clause was part of a big amendment saying that someone doesn't have "a wish to seek assistance to end their own life in accordance with this Act under section 5(5)" if they're motivated by a number of things, including financial considerations. But also on the list is "not wanting to be a burden on others or on public services", and I'm against that - if I do take this up, that's probably going to be where my head's at. But that's in theory - I don't support it while the government is as bloodthirsty as this one.
And there's another one which modifies terminal illness (in the bill: you have it, you're not going to get better, you'll be dead in six months) to include "As a result of that illness or disease the person is experiencing (or willlikely experience) severe pain and discomfort that cannot be reasonably relieved to the person’s satisfaction through palliative care" - do you (not you) want the sounds of the dying piped into your office, you ghoul?
But mostly, and I'm probably just being paranoid, when I see a big "warning, warning" post being shared widely (definitely not just you here!), and the bits of it that look really detailed are all wrong, I just wonder what the fuck is going on?
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 June 2025 22:20 (four months ago)
The Whips told MPs that the Welfare Cuts bill was a "confidence vote" in Starmer (meaning if govt lose the vote Starmer will go)...and the number of Rebels went up. Looks like MPs thought it was a 2-for-1 offer pic.twitter.com/ZeCb0231eJ— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) June 24, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 June 2025 17:29 (four months ago)
feel like we're close to the scene where the hyenas all turn on Scar
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2025 17:40 (four months ago)
I have some pretty pointed questions for a Home Secretary (and former Home Affairs select committee chair) whose takings from Zionist donors are the highest of any Labour politician, suddenly wanting to proscribe Palestine Action.
This seems like an obvious conflict of interest, right? Right?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 24 June 2025 19:34 (four months ago)
"whose takings from Zionist donors are the highest of any Labour politician"
maybe Lammy gets some of his Zionist lobby donations stuffed directly into his pockets these days. I can't believe he's been surpassed in the greedy corrupt fuckers captured by donors index!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 June 2025 19:54 (four months ago)
Cooper has taken £215k to Lammy’s £103k, and neither should take anything from anyone advocating for a foreign power. Reeves is the only other one on over 100k.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 24 June 2025 20:12 (four months ago)
(1)Blame game over benefits rebellion begins- from The Times - Minister says Morgan McSweeney is " completely off his rocker" for making Starmer define himself "against the Left ", Rachel Reeves persuasion attempts put off more MPs, govt relies on Rayner to try sell the cuts pic.twitter.com/HBguwQRwdi— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) June 24, 2025
wow, who could believe when Reeves tries to *charm* or perhaps more realistically, browbeat MPs into voting for something terrible. It has the exact opposite effect on them. I recall there was an Aesop fable about this, but that story didn't involve making disabled people homeless.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 25 June 2025 06:30 (four months ago)
https://www.reaction.life/p/britain-looks-like-brexit
Written on 21 June, 2016.
It’s 24 June, 2025, and Britain is marking its annual Independence Day celebration. As the fireworks stream through the summer sky, still not quite dark, we wonder why it took us so long to leave. The years that followed the 2016 referendum didn’t just reinvigorate our economy, our democracy and our liberty. They improved relations with our neighbours.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 25 June 2025 07:48 (four months ago)
Nailed it
― the babality of evil (wins), Wednesday, 25 June 2025 07:50 (four months ago)
..and the rest of it!
― Mark G, Wednesday, 25 June 2025 07:55 (four months ago)
It's incredible how accurate it is. I can't believe I once thought Brexit was a bad idea.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 25 June 2025 08:05 (four months ago)
Opting out of the EU’s data protection rules has turned Hoxton into the software capital of the world
"...where one there was a couple of nice parks in Hoxton are now located huge tower blocks that house software companies that rival the Silicon Valley behemoths as global centers of technology innovation..."
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 25 June 2025 08:24 (four months ago)
It's so weird how he thinks, or I guess pretends to think is a possibility, that you don't actually have to do anything or build anything or fund or run anything properly, you just leave the EU and magically everything roars into life, because the other possibility is that British politicians haven't got a fucking clue what they're doing, the entire country has little to offer on a global stage, and the political system barely allows spending money to fix things.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 25 June 2025 08:47 (four months ago)
Prof D Edgerton has recently wrote something similar to: that Starmer's so called Industrial Strategy is a mix of incompressible Thatcherite twaddle and Brexit hubris that won't achieve anything. Even after a Brexit, the same braindead zombie political classes are incapable of having any good ideas, in fact just bad ones or even corrupt ones. Even if Remain had won this would still be the problem.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 25 June 2025 08:53 (four months ago)
Yeah staying in wouldn't have revitalised industry or whatever, tho maybe a few more quid in people's pockets I guess.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 25 June 2025 09:13 (four months ago)
Presumably any inability to have improved life in even the most basic way will be handwaved away with ‘covid’ until some other catastrophe comes along to replace it. No better outcomes were possible, unfortunately
― crisp, Wednesday, 25 June 2025 09:18 (four months ago)
He seems to miss the fact that being happy with Brexit could never be the point. Farage etc and his base will never be happy or satisfied with anything and it's naive to think they can be placated or that constant anger and disruption isn't key to the grift. Tho most of the British political establishment share this delusional so... shrug
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 25 June 2025 09:37 (four months ago)
the Osborne austerity and profligate expansion of foodbank use, that's what helped Brexit happen. Now Kieth is doing Austerity 2.0, which is another gift to the latest Farage political vehicle. And in between these two events all that has been learned is senseless soundbites like "we need to cut harder and cut faster".
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 25 June 2025 09:53 (four months ago)
that phrase is probably just how I recall it rather than what he said. It might have been go further and faster, which is no better.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 25 June 2025 09:55 (four months ago)
Every time a minister does a media round and says the changes to PIP are about getting people back into work, another Labour MP is more committed to the rebellion— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) June 25, 2025
Also I have seen a '24 intake MP saying she is willing to lose the whip over this, the messaging is so obviously bullshit and doesn't acknowledge that PIP is an in-work benefit, so it's just too much an outright lie to hold water - even with some moderate professional pol type MPs. This is becoming much more of a concerted rebellion than the damp squib I was expecting.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 25 June 2025 10:22 (four months ago)
There's time yet for these spineless wankers to back down tbf.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 June 2025 10:32 (four months ago)
oh there are some utter spineless shits in the PLP and that number massively increased in '24 when Kieth went for corporate lobbyists or highest quality candidates. So yeah, I know this can disappear into nothing very fast. But some seasoned Labour watchers seem to think this is turning into a revolt.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 25 June 2025 10:37 (four months ago)
someone from the bad publication The Economist is suggesting that leadership have so far failed to put this PIP rebellion down is because the leaders of it have abandoned organising through leaky Whatsapp groups that give up the whole game. They have been using the old fashioned cell system method of organising secret meetings without smartphone apps etc...
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 25 June 2025 10:58 (four months ago)
I still think the most likely scenario is "feeble non-concession from the Cabinet" followed by "feeble climb-down by most of these moral nullities" but this is fun while it lasts
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 June 2025 14:06 (four months ago)
I was thinking how if I were a labour right strategist invested in Starmer's success the first thing I'd try to avoid was any kind of military action lead by the US, just purely in terms of seeing what that did to Blair's popularity (which was at one point considerably higher than Starmer's has ever been) and how much it tainted the party amongst the general population.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 26 June 2025 13:30 (four months ago)
But all of those people want a nice fat American job (NGO or private sector) once they finish.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 26 June 2025 13:38 (four months ago)
Labour right's "strategy" is to keep doing what Blair did, specifically from 2003 onwards, just harder, faster, (dafter), sneakier. If the public hasn't retconned the Iraq War and total Atlanticist subservience into a positive as they have, they don't consider that their problem. It's non-negotiable.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 26 June 2025 13:48 (four months ago)
Yeah, I just thought that keeping clear off the most obvious huge blunder could give you more room to manouevre to keep going with all the other hideous shit nulabb loves. Always surprised by how much incompetence there is alongside the evil.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 26 June 2025 13:57 (four months ago)
Say what you want about these empty reactionary fucks but this is their ethos
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 June 2025 14:10 (four months ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GuXBgxKWwAArvNu?format=jpg&name=900x900
hah hah! this parody piece is killing me. Every time there is a new Tarzan movie reboot this extremely rich man would rather interview for the lead role than apply for disability benefits, because he's bloody tough!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 27 June 2025 06:06 (four months ago)
obv Oscar Pistorius is this cunt's hero and role model
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 27 June 2025 06:11 (four months ago)
"massive concessions" sounds like the sound of the spineless little melty fucks of the PLP having the last pathetic trace of resistance in them broken with minimum effort.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 27 June 2025 06:33 (four months ago)
i imagine the government just drip feeds this thru a bit at a time now, and melts are always gonna melt, but on the other hand maybe they've got a taste for Kieth's blood now
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 June 2025 06:59 (four months ago)
New PIP applicants get fucked over immediately, existing ones, next year. GREAT WIN, LADS.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 27 June 2025 07:04 (four months ago)
"they've got a taste for Kieth's blood now"
because he's such an appalling solipsistic personality and a horrible tin-eared it never occurs to him to try and build consensus for terrible policies because the new intake of MPs were specifically picked to be blindly loyal to him and total yes people. Obviously there has been some resentment building up against him and Reeves' authoritarian style. It's just a pity this resentment is let out through the tedious parliamentary processes that never change anything, rather than some serious double/triple actual real homicide shit.
But yes, now some of them might be thinking of finishing the job off the next time.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 27 June 2025 08:28 (four months ago)
*horrible tin-eared cunt* I meant!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 27 June 2025 08:29 (four months ago)
I hate how the coverage of this is like "ha! aha! We have caught the government doing a U-TURN! Aren't you embarrassed???" as if it's wrong to actually listen to your backbenchers. Not that I think the govt gives a shit but this is how politics works - if you don't build consensus then you get smacked, then you negotiate. That's good!
funny though how I never hear a peep from Nick Robinson or the cocking Resolution Foundation about how the govt will pay for the huge increase in defense or what that commitment will do to Rachel Reeves cocking "fiscal rules"
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 27 June 2025 10:17 (four months ago)
it is completely false to portray it as a U-turn unless the amendment is voted through and completely kills the bill or the bill is yanked away because of Kieth's fear for his waning authority and dying political career. All else is delay and bullshit with the same nasty shit happening in slightly different timeframes at best.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 27 June 2025 11:02 (four months ago)
the narrative shouldn't be "ha ha we have caught the government doing a U-turn" it should be, thank god there are still MPs with a conscience unlike the leadership who cooked up this shit in the first place
that or maybe
"finally Project: New Labour and Tory coalition is complete"
― Covfefe and TV (ken c), Friday, 27 June 2025 11:10 (four months ago)
*something strange has happened here* because the new intake of MPs are not conviction pols - they mostly all seem absolutely appalling people. Mostly just corporate lobbyists or the type of creepy ghouls that would do this job for any political party, that selection process was by design. The strange thing is, it's almost like they have been radicalised by how hideous Starmer, Kendall and Reeves' are as personalities, rather than thinking about how catastrophic these cuts will be to disabled people.
* adam curtis voiceover
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 27 June 2025 11:20 (four months ago)
Radicalised by the thought of losing their seat at a snap election more like, those of them that ever meet any of their constituents which is admittedly a low number
― bood food bood mood delish! (Matt #2), Friday, 27 June 2025 11:29 (four months ago)
The disabled community is reasonably well-organised and able to challenge MPs effectively and this is what's put the fear into the empty suits on the back benches I'd say
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 June 2025 11:34 (four months ago)
I mean sure none of these cunts will be worried about loss of income when they're voted out but loss of access to graft opportunities and the humiliation of being flung out of a seat that's been Labour for a hundred years probably focuses minds
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 June 2025 11:37 (four months ago)
I mean a so called compromise that is basically cutting off support to all future PIP applicants and leaving current recipients hanging on a thread is a fantastic accomplishment by these lads.
Stephen Kinnock get back into your stinking Welsh cave until you learn what an in-work, non means-tested benefit is, you lying bald twat.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 27 June 2025 13:08 (four months ago)
starmer really looking to earn that “Two Tier Kier” sobriquet from all comers
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 27 June 2025 13:33 (four months ago)
there is some sympathy for Kieth piece in the Observer that tries to humanise him. It is titled "The Trials of Kier" or some shite like that and some wag posted that they thought it might be about a regressive crackdown on judicial process or something!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 27 June 2025 13:40 (four months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jun/27/keir-starmer-says-he-deeply-regrets-island-of-strangers-speech
“I should have read the speech more carefully” is phenomenal work.
― ShariVari, Friday, 27 June 2025 13:53 (four months ago)
oopsie
― LocalGarda, Friday, 27 June 2025 13:55 (four months ago)
he thought it said 'island of friends'
it doesn't feel like it is some Morgan McSweeney directed bullshit, but somehow it ends up being even worse!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 27 June 2025 14:00 (four months ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GucbRyXXUAAW6dn?format=jpg&name=900x900
incredible, he's even trying to get his speechwriters off the hook
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 27 June 2025 14:08 (four months ago)
We're not evil, we're just clueless and ignorant! Not sure this is much better tbh
― bood food bood mood delish! (Matt #2), Friday, 27 June 2025 14:13 (four months ago)
STARMER "REGRETS" BEHEADING SQUIRREL'Should have questioned' staff who gave him samurai sword, says PM
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 27 June 2025 14:23 (four months ago)
The "I admit it. I'm a dumbass" defence.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Friday, 27 June 2025 14:27 (four months ago)
I saw one of Sky's political correspondents the other day saying that McSweeney's under pressure from a rival in Downing Street who is considered more right wing and ideological.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Friday, 27 June 2025 14:34 (four months ago)
came home, put the tv on, accidentally saw 10 seconds of Newsnight, remembered that the absolute worst aspect of this shit is that least evolved form of life in history i.e. pol journalists are lapping this excuse up to evangelize
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 June 2025 21:57 (four months ago)
it's great that he's pushing for a compromise which is no good for disabled people, it saves fuck all money, relatively speaking and it makes an unpopular party that is tanking in the polls even more unpopular. Oh yes and it leaves his authority absolutely shredded. I'm old enough to remember when this lad was on the cover of GQ magazine and they claimed he could lead a team and draft a minute etc...
At the time some cynics pointed out that all these qualities GQ claimed Starmer had were just the basic skillset required for a mid-level admin job and were a pretty low bar. They were only half correct imo because I doubt he's even got these basic skills. The evidence was in the Ken Loach McLibel doc where you see a much more younger and dynamic Kieth as a barrister on the ascent, with no idea of how to use a floppy disc and blaming one of his staff for his own fucking stupidity.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 28 June 2025 06:38 (four months ago)
I'm not even disabled and in the short term this won't affect my son who is. My anxiety levels have been through the roof over this shit. I dread to think what life is like for disabled people or people with various mh issues who are right at the front of the queue for this fuckery. It will be stressful enough to exacerbate conditions that they already struggle with.
Starmer, Reeves, Kendall, McSweeney - I have bottles of champagne at the ready for their political obituaries and and some more for when any of these scum die. It's a shame that this is the direction of traffic and now we have a 3 centre-right party system, who will all do variably evil racism/austerity/feed the military industrial policies. And this is all down to the Starmer project imo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 28 June 2025 08:04 (four months ago)
my partner has significant MH conditions and has been in bits over this. We live in Scotland so our PIP-equivalent has, for now at least, been protected - the Scottish Government have explicitly stated they won't be making any changes in eligibility criteria - but the threat to ESA is still there, and the rhetoric is so dehumanising and disgusting that they've had a real spiral over the past few weeks.
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 28 June 2025 09:04 (four months ago)
sorry to hear that boxedjoy, yes what has become acceptable rhetoric about people with mh conditions now is much worse than the anti-benefits bigotry of the Osborne years. It's just unrelenting and vile and I'm just talking about what I've heard on the bbc here.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 28 June 2025 09:16 (four months ago)
And the purposeful misinformation about PIP as in-work benefit: I know several people with neurodivergence or physical disabilities who might have to give up work if they lose eligibility. And here are ministers trying to characterise it as anything but.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 28 June 2025 09:44 (four months ago)
yep, the lies and the mispresenting of what PIP is just flow from these Labour wankers. Also this bollox about the cost of PIP spiralling out of control is hyperbolic bullshit, there were two recent spikes. One pre-covid which is easily explainable by the numbers of people migrating from DLA to PIP and then one post-covid which most certainly will be boosted by the numbers of people debilitated by long covid. Even Stephen Timms at a parliamentary hearing, admitted that the number of applicants had stabilised since the last post-covid spike. But yeah, keep lying Starmer/Reeves/Kendall you absolute scum. Another factor is that because after years of austerity and shitty, useless Tory and Labour govts mishandling of the economy. A lot of people who might not have been bothered to go through all the rigmarole of applying for it, now much more pinched by the cost of living will apply for it now. I know one person like this. He was initially turned down and then won his appeal, and didn't turn up for the appeal hearing because it clashed with his holiday.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 28 June 2025 09:56 (four months ago)
fuck me, what the hell is a paragraph for?
A friend who is a respiratory consultant has just found work on PIP appeals panels and one reason they signed up was to mitigate anything the government might try.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 28 June 2025 09:59 (four months ago)
I know someone with COP issues, and all sorts of other health conditions related to him being born in a 14 year old girl who had drug and alcohol problems. The poor guy has so many issues, his mum even perforated his ear drums by sticking cotton buds in there when he was a baby. Also his partner died recently. I used to think people like him would be relatively safe from austerity fuckery, even under Tory governments. Now the whole fucking game has changed under a Labour govt. Fucking hell, man.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 28 June 2025 10:10 (four months ago)
Much strength to all who are suffering bcz of this govt's actions and total lack of compassion.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 28 June 2025 11:15 (four months ago)
Accidentally catching Glasman on C4 News calling for the government to murder more disabled people
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 June 2025 17:17 (four months ago)
I guess it is quite important that the white supremacy/corporatist labour guy get's his last shot at relevancy before we put this pointless party into the ground, forever. just for him, like.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 28 June 2025 18:15 (four months ago)
Glasman’s teenage son was in a vox pop package for I think C4 in Hackney when Diane Abbott got suspended, and outed himself as a Corbynite.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 28 June 2025 19:14 (four months ago)
Sir Keir Starmer has said his welfare reforms strike "the right balance" after making concessions to his own backbench MPs.
it's literally a two tier system, which kind of implies some imbalance you dumb fuck.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 29 June 2025 11:16 (four months ago)
"look, people complained the cuts were cruel, so now we've made them cruel and arbitrary"
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 June 2025 11:20 (four months ago)
lol exactly
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 29 June 2025 13:10 (four months ago)
as with the trans ruling all of these decisions are just storing up the hard choices for another day
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 29 June 2025 13:11 (four months ago)
while simultaneously kicking people when they’re already down
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 29 June 2025 13:18 (four months ago)
so obviously stupid. the welfare system is broken and unfair therefore going frwd 2 people with exactly the same medical condition and needs will get entirely different levels of support. sorted.
― oscar bravo, Sunday, 29 June 2025 20:48 (four months ago)
The "humanising detail" part of the Observer article is a little bewildering - it's him turning up in Leeds in January to clean out the home of his brother, who had mental health issues and had died there on Boxing day, shortly after finally getting permanent accommodation. It paints the picture well of coming from a European security meeting to scrubbing the bog, and I've no doubt the emotion is real, but if it means that he's aware of what life is like in that situation, it paints what he's actually doing in a much worse light than just coddled ignorance!
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 30 June 2025 08:15 (four months ago)
he wants a medal because he scrubbed a toilet? I do that 7 times a week ffs!
I don't think he's capable of better than badly spun half-truths or just utter bullshit so I don't even believe that story completely tbh. I don't believe there is any coddled ignorance with this cunt as well. After all this is the guy who joined an evil right-wing Rockefeller think-tank when he was in the Corbyn shadow cabinet. He doesn't paraphrase Powell out of stupidity or ignorance, he has always been, or least since his DPP days, a fiscally right-wing to the core bumbling conservative cunt. Hence his greatest hits The Night Courts, tougher prison sentences for benefits fraud, putting a protective shield around Jimmy Saville, advising police not to investigate an anti-GRT lynch mob.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 30 June 2025 08:41 (four months ago)
his father was a toolmaker and he once cleaned a toilet, this genocidal millionaire is truly one of us
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Monday, 30 June 2025 08:55 (four months ago)
^ hate speech
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Monday, 30 June 2025 09:07 (four months ago)
Typical of the man that we got the "pity poor Kieth" article on the same weekend as another "need to do more racism and cops to appease the fash" message dropped
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 June 2025 09:33 (four months ago)
The order to proscribe us is published.The Home Secretary will ask for MPs to decide in one vote to ban Palestine Action and neo-Nazi groups 'Maniac Murder Cult' and 'Russian Imperialist Movement'.She's done this deliberately to try and ensure the vote is successful.— Palestine Action (@Pal_action) June 30, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 30 June 2025 13:25 (four months ago)
Tangential, but I wonder if there is a ‘Maniac Murder Cult’ or 764 link to the Starmer fires. It lines up with the tactic of getting young people (often, but not exclusively, on Russian or Ukrainian Telegram channels) to commit minor crimes for clout or small amounts of money and blackmailing them into escalatory acts. Strong overlap with security services too, as in:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/30/russia-pays-ukrainians-suicide-bombers-shadow-war-you-now
― ShariVari, Monday, 30 June 2025 16:30 (four months ago)
Ukraine apparently used the same unwitting suicide-bomber technique to assassinate Zaur Gurtsiev in Russia last month. It's certainly not cricket!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 30 June 2025 16:47 (four months ago)
Predictable.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/01/labour-rebellion-leader-meg-hillier-backs-welfare-bill-amid-sustained-defiance
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 08:21 (four months ago)
Yeah, govt will win.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 July 2025 08:43 (four months ago)
This is to force people into riskier investments. The policy was pushed by lobbyists for The City and financial services. This is what you get from a government completely sold out to the wealthy. https://t.co/Y3fz0cS607— Chłoddy (@OfSymbols) June 30, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 July 2025 08:44 (four months ago)
Hillier looks like a conscious wrecker who's done her job in muddying the waters enough to spike the rebellion
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 09:29 (four months ago)
She'll get a promotion, no doubt.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 July 2025 09:36 (four months ago)
"The key issue is that over 300,000 disabled people have ongoing support and are less worried about their future. That’s good for them and the right thing to do,”
I doubt very much they are less worried about their future with such brave advocates as thee, who melt after about 0.3 seconds of pressure. I also doubt that disability groups are going to say: at least we are OK for now, fuck everyone else. They aren't run by people in any way similar to the unscrupulous scum who become Labour MPs.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 09:51 (four months ago)
Even by Starmer's standards 3% of public support is truly pitiful.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/01/removing-hereditary-peers-not-enough-reform-lords-poll
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 13:54 (four months ago)
heh heh! they've pulled the PIP reform bill for now. Liz Kendall has been made to look like a joke figure. I love to see it.
I’m told late this afternoon they were confronted with numbers which suggested defeat was very realistic.Yet another backtracking lever would have to be yanked. Now Sir Keir Starmer’s welfare reforms appear threadbare; shorn of their central pillars of just a week ago.His Work and Pensions Secretary Liz Kendall, humiliated again – her words just hours ago later fed into the shredder. A penny for her thoughts right now.
Yet another backtracking lever would have to be yanked. Now Sir Keir Starmer’s welfare reforms appear threadbare; shorn of their central pillars of just a week ago.
His Work and Pensions Secretary Liz Kendall, humiliated again – her words just hours ago later fed into the shredder. A penny for her thoughts right now.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 17:48 (four months ago)
glorious news! a penny for her thoughts? yeah you're probably being overcharged there mate
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 17:53 (four months ago)
sickos.jpg
― the babality of evil (wins), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 17:59 (four months ago)
she deserves to be coined
it's a sad day when a UK minister who lives in a £4m flat and claims thousands towards her heating bill on parliamentary expenses. Just can't get can't get a pesky bill through to impoverish and leave the most vulnerable in society to die.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 18:01 (four months ago)
Omg beautiful
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 18:04 (four months ago)
This is clause 5 of the UC & PIP bill - the whole section on PIP - which has now been dropped in its entirety. So much political pain, but a decision which many Labour MPs will welcome. 👇 pic.twitter.com/Ivxo5kE5xt— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) July 1, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 18:07 (four months ago)
I know the baddies win in the end but it's sweet watching them wipe custard pie off their faces
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 18:09 (four months ago)
At a certain point Starmer is going to have bin failed ministers like Kendall and Reeves to save his own skin.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 18:21 (four months ago)
This is part of the joy, I assume he'll burn thru all of them before finally being forced out and then we get Streeting OK like I said it doesn't end well
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 18:26 (four months ago)
Reeves will be relieved when she can finally move on to her next job as investment consultant for the arms industry or w/e, she has the contacts now and no use sticking around much longer, there's a queue of Oxford PPE grads waiting in the wings.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 18:40 (four months ago)
now Kieth's authority is damaged beyond repair, he's going to have to learn how to grovel to his MPs like he did with Trump when he wants to get unpopular stuff through parliament.
what I don't understand is, after gutting the PIP 4pt rule section from the bill and adding amendments that only make a fraction of the savings. Why did they still need to get what was left of bill voted through? There must be still some horrible stuff on it or they have some dastardly plan to backtrack on it at committee stage or something?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 19:05 (four months ago)
There are no meaningful "savings". The performative cruelty is always the point
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 July 2025 20:27 (four months ago)
https://i.ibb.co/274pV7B4/hfhdghfgfj.png
keep fucking it into the sun guys
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 1 July 2025 20:32 (four months ago)
I think the 4 point rule is still in it for future claimants?
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 1 July 2025 22:31 (four months ago)
god knows.. but I think the whole 4pt PIP section has been pulled from the bill, which would only leave the cut to the health component of UC LCWRA or something? Fuck knows tbh. I just take it as a given that this shit will happen in the next 5-10 years anyway - maybe even this government will find a way of getting it through parliament within this term. Even if there is a leadership election and trash like Kendall and Reeves are binned, there is still plenty of like for like trash to replace them. You don't need the MET office to tell which way the wind be blowing ... etc
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 04:48 (four months ago)
No. 10 source tells @georgeeaton that the “utterly clueless” Alastair Campbell “wouldn’t last two minutes” in Morgan McSweeney’s job. https://t.co/0kz1ankeGw pic.twitter.com/xqZUuGAX6B— Will Lloyd (@Will___lloyd) July 2, 2025
Some government officials are more openly contemptuous of Labour MPs than ever.One, referring to the rebels who were first elected in 2024, said: "What did they think the job was? They all think they're JFK because they delivered some leaflets while Morgan won them the election."
One, referring to the rebels who were first elected in 2024, said: "What did they think the job was? They all think they're JFK because they delivered some leaflets while Morgan won them the election."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czry6gv80mjo
The government has found one message they’re consistent on and it’s ‘stop being mean to Morgan McSweeney’.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 08:28 (four months ago)
They've got their priorities right at least.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 08:33 (four months ago)
The so-called genius strategist who could have could gone on holiday leave for the GE campaign and exact same results would have happened. If anything with perhaps less of the racist messaging they would have done better without him and the likes of Ashworth wouldn't have lost an eternal Labour safe seat (though I do thank McSweeney for that one).
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 08:41 (four months ago)
Yep, the thing they can’t say out loud is obviously that they credit him with ‘winning the election’ by nobbling Corbyn’s leadership.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 08:51 (four months ago)
I was listening to Patrick Maguire (yes, of The Times) saying one of the new intake rebels was talking about the PIP amendment as an act towards "regime change" but not meaning Starmer, but meaning McSweeney - the "overexcitable boy".
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 08:57 (four months ago)
feels like "senor govt sources" are just trolling us all at this point
Senior govt sources saying this morning that by forcing the govt to abandon its welfare reforms Labour MPs have likely killed off any hope of lifting the two child benefit capOne says that’s a great shame for the govt’s child poverty ambitions. Starmer had wanted to lift it— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) July 2, 2025
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 08:59 (four months ago)
Time for a Nobel Gaslighting Prize imo
Also maybe some kind of UFC cage match with Campbell and MacSweeney
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 09:27 (four months ago)
because he was only a freakish little shit of a fetus during the Blair years he won't remember the fate of Dr David Kelly. And after having him done in, rather than pissing on his grave, Cherie Blair signed a copy of the Hutton Inquiry that was sold at a charity auction for £400!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 09:56 (four months ago)
I just can't get over how monumentally bad Starmer is at politics. You'd think having got that far you'd have picked up something about how to do politics, but we're straying deep into Truss territory now. I may be misremembering but I feel like when Blair was doing evil, at least he was doing it relatively competently.
― Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 10:22 (four months ago)
We are in some weird zone of detachment where no reality appears to permeate the inner sanctum of the Labour party. I liked this paragraph from John McD in the Guardian today which reflects my feelings about the UK and any dealings I've had with my MP or local councillor.
I mailed my MP a few months ago to ask how she was voting on the welfare bill. Just a one-line email. She replied after about seven weeks with a 700-word email that did not at any point say how she was voting.
This isn't democracy, it's managed decline.
It is the absolute hollowing out of democracy in the Labour party, which enables a centralisation of power under a self-serving bureaucracy that is effectively out of control, operating with impunity. Poor decisions are made on strategy and policy from top to bottom because democracy has been stripped out of the party. Constituency Labour parties are not permitted to even debate some of the most significant political issues of the day, such as Gaza. Views questioning the leadership line, whether expressed in meetings or on social media, lead easily to disciplinary action.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 10:36 (four months ago)
I could even understand all of this from a hard, cynical viewpoint of reshaping the party to be an instrument of winning power for the next 10-20 years but its not working in the sense that the base will gravitate toward the Greens/ Independents and no new voters (Tories and racists) are being gained.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 11:25 (four months ago)
cruelty's coming home
A tear just rolled down the Chancellor’s cheek at #PMQs as the PM refuses to answer whether or not she’ll stay in her job. Hayfever, or something else? pic.twitter.com/HPXXQlDNo9— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) July 2, 2025
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 11:47 (four months ago)
Maybe there is a long game mentality, an expectation that if they lose in 2029 it's OK because the Labour Party will drift back to power at some point and what matters most is that it's their Labour Party, in government or not
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 11:48 (four months ago)
I think there’s a very strong expectation that the press will rally around them come election time and they’ll effectively do a Boris Yeltsin 1996 and win a crushing majority with an 8% approval rate.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 11:51 (four months ago)
I guess if you just abandon any form of listening or acting based on a collective of constituencies, MPs, party members etc, in favour of a small cabal of powerful strategists, when it fails you have no option but to fire the strategist and try a different one, like you've effectively blinded yourself at that point and the question of outcomes based on logic or even solving actual problems is a ship that's long sailed.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 11:56 (four months ago)
Ghouls like Reeves and Kendall are just continuing with everything they were saying 2010-15. That the only type of Labour govt that is credible is one that does much harder austerity than the tories. It's incredible that they are dressing up this austerity as a necessary choice for these particular times. Yet they were both saying the exact same shit, word for word, 15 years ago!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 12:01 (four months ago)
oh, you think Labour having to perform a humiliating u-turn on welfare is funny, do you? Well I'll tell you something that's not so funny:
PMQs has now ended. The PA news agency reports that Labour minister Ellie Reeves appeared to be holding her sister’s hand as she left the chamber on Wednesday, after chancellor Rachel Reeves appeared to be crying during PMQs.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2025/jul/02/welfare-bill-concessions-labour-keir-starmer-rebellion-tax-uk-politics-live-updates
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 12:02 (four months ago)
loool lool every time I think about Reeves crying I'm getting a mad endorphin rush
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 12:06 (four months ago)
During PMQs (which has now ended), Adrian Ramsay asked whether the government would scrap the two-child benefit cap after the welfare bill climbdown.
Starmer replied:
I don’t think I’ll be listening to him or his party.
WE'RE COMING FOR YOU KEIR
― imago, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 12:06 (four months ago)
They'll be making a turn to the left imago you'll be leaving soon.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 12:09 (four months ago)
Starmer/McSweeney are just not political operators in the sense that they have serious and perceptive ideas about how a government can achieve goals, or even understand what public services actually do, or how to manage an economy, or how to clean a toilet. They are both braindead and spent all their energy in opposition purging what was left of Corbynism out of the party without doing any useful work on shaping the policies they would enact in power. They just believed in some magical thinking way that they are the realpolitik people of the PLP and everything they do will be successful, no matter little thought or effort they put into it. As long as a policy is the exact opposite to what Corbyn would have done, then that is a good policy - is their guiding principle of policymaking.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 12:15 (four months ago)
Really feeling this attack by Badenoch. The Hunan shield comment is such gutter politics. Whatever works.
Badenoch said:This man has forgotten that his welfare bill was there to plug a black hole created by the chancellor. Instead they’re creating new ones. They’re creating new ones.[Rachel Reeves] is pointing at me, she looks absolutely miserable. Labour MPs are going on the record saying that the chancellor is toast, and the reality is that she is a human shield for his incompetence. In January, he said that she would be in post until the next election. Will she really?
This man has forgotten that his welfare bill was there to plug a black hole created by the chancellor. Instead they’re creating new ones. They’re creating new ones.
[Rachel Reeves] is pointing at me, she looks absolutely miserable. Labour MPs are going on the record saying that the chancellor is toast, and the reality is that she is a human shield for his incompetence. In January, he said that she would be in post until the next election. Will she really?
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 12:18 (four months ago)
U luv 2 C it.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 12:19 (four months ago)
Ok I have watched Reeves crying about 50 times now and I can't stop.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 12:24 (four months ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gu2jE0GXkAIFJPK?format=jpg
(posted by adam bienkov)
― mark s, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 12:47 (four months ago)
I know the focus is generally on the government, but Badenoch is absolute waste also. Just a truly horrible human being. Her empty sneering is a grim counterpoint to what's going on on the other side.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 12:58 (four months ago)
She is vile.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 13:07 (four months ago)
Almost certainly former Sun journo Dylan Sharpe. Badenoch, more than most, seems like she’d be surrounded with absolute freaks.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 13:44 (four months ago)
Feel like the stage is set for this to actually be a personal matter now and Reeves to walk through the shaming and become PM with M People's Proud on blast.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 13:48 (four months ago)
https://t.co/XdSrVjc9Wg pic.twitter.com/LPocOpwgKC— Michael Walsh (@thatbloodyMikey) July 2, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 14:45 (four months ago)
There is this (tweet below) -- but its her politics not to see the disabled and their struggles and to give more breaks to business in whatever way she can.
The funny thing about Rachel Reeves is that every few weeks, somebody will come out and discreetly say, 'You have more fiscal room than you think.' The governor of the Bank of England said exactly this in June! But still she sticks to rules that are hers, but aren't rules.— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) July 2, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 15:05 (four months ago)
this proves that she's not really tough just callous and self-pitying. She blubs like a fucking baby at career setbacks. But is capable of being enough of a psycho to pursue terrible cuts that will cause thousands of the most vulnerable to die.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 15:14 (four months ago)
The Scottish Government announced last week they're launching a new benefit to mitigate the two child benefit cap
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdezyrpgez3o
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 16:10 (four months ago)
Shameful that only 26 voted against the proscription of Palestine Action. Using the internal logic of the proscription process, if applied consistently, this would also make the Green Party a potential terrorist organisation if prominent members don’t stop expressing support for them. Possibly even the Labour Party!
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 2 July 2025 17:54 (four months ago)
criminalising non-violent protest but defending to the death the right to incite mob violence against refugees
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 18:01 (four months ago)
the members of Palestine Action I have seen in videos, putting themselves in very real physical and legal danger to protest against a genocide are so much braver than any of these fraudulent cunts in Parliament. Although fair play to the Greens this time.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 18:07 (four months ago)
The proscription vote going down with so little opposition is making me feel totally insane. Things are just worse than I realised??
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 20:55 (four months ago)
Hooray!https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/03/labour-government-nhs-1948-10-year-plan-ai-neighbourhood-care-patients
New neighbourhood health centres[?] will house doctors, nurses, physios, therapists, tests, scans and urgent care under one roof, built around patients’ convenience.
Oops there's the Graun reverting to type and leaving the question mark in accidentally, it may be gone by morning
― winter light controversy (Matt #2), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 23:29 (four months ago)
🤔 pic.twitter.com/RGkZI3eAFJ— Stephen Bush (@stephenkb) July 2, 2025
Ultimately the cuts to PIP came from the treasury and Reeves, who should be already sacked. McSWeeney sure loves to ret-con himself as blameless and Downing St as an absolutely powerless part of govt, for these two ugly and laughable policy-fail u-turns.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 3 July 2025 05:48 (four months ago)
He briefed that the job was "piss-easy" for Campbell compared with the more difficult circumstances he has faced, yesterday. Without being a Campbell apologist (because I think he belongs in hell) it was probably much more difficult to have to rep for fake dossiers and become a lying war criminal in aid of prosecuting an illegal war that entails thousands of UK citizens coming home in body bags. Then have to rep for this shit for the rest of your life. Without the cowardly option of briefing lobby journalists that you were always against this bad thing that was undoubtedly evil and an unmitigable failure, it was nothing to do with you, honest.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 3 July 2025 06:21 (four months ago)
I feel like McSweeney is too much of a little runt to get away with being a micromanaging bully, so basically he is doomed. Long may he die.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 3 July 2025 06:33 (four months ago)
https://twitter.com/yvette_copper/status/1940672857920753993?s=19
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 July 2025 10:10 (four months ago)
What was that? Seems to have gone.
― Tim, Thursday, 3 July 2025 10:33 (four months ago)
Not sure why that link hasn't loaded but basically Palestine Action rebranded as 'Yvette Cooper'.
(I need to learn how to post images here...)
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 July 2025 10:44 (four months ago)
Yvette Cooper, why haven't Yvette Cooper been proscribed yet?
I like it
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 3 July 2025 11:38 (four months ago)
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 July 2025 11:44 (four months ago)
Is there a protest happening today? About 10 helicopters went zooming past my office (Blackfriars) about an hour ago
― crisp, Thursday, 3 July 2025 12:07 (four months ago)
Palestine Action in court i think?
Sorry, I mean Yvette Cooper in court
― i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 July 2025 12:08 (four months ago)
https://bsky.app/profile/owenboswarva.bsky.social/post/3lt2lxaern226
🤔 what could possibly go wrong? 🤔
― Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 3 July 2025 13:11 (four months ago)
can we have AI politicians then 🤣
*monkeys paw finger bends forward*
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 3 July 2025 13:33 (four months ago)
Court is tomorrow from around 10.30.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 3 July 2025 14:08 (four months ago)
omg it's happening; new left party
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 3 July 2025 19:45 (four months ago)
Maybe not!
EXCLUSIVE: I understand Jeremy Corbyn has not agreed to join the new left party with Zarah Sultana yet He is furious and bewildered at the way it has been launched without consultation. https://t.co/zEKwC8YUuk— Gabriel Pogrund (@Gabriel_Pogrund) July 3, 2025
― ShariVari, Thursday, 3 July 2025 20:39 (four months ago)
😑
― sideshow melt (wins), Thursday, 3 July 2025 20:43 (four months ago)
Don't know how Pogrund would get that info but Corbyn has yet to say anything.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 July 2025 21:05 (four months ago)
the worst case of Stockholm Syndrome i've ever seen
― ding us a dong, you're the gamelan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 July 2025 21:59 (four months ago)
well done all
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 3 July 2025 23:09 (four months ago)
Just go with it grand-dad!
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 4 July 2025 06:54 (four months ago)
"furious and bewildered" feels quite comically over the top as a description of someone's reaction to something
― LocalGarda, Friday, 4 July 2025 06:57 (four months ago)
especially coming from a source who undoubtedly knows nobody in Corbyn's inner circle and would be treated with silent contempt by anybody who is in the know!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 July 2025 07:01 (four months ago)
that creepy private healthcare guy who ran against Corbyn was on TV saying the problem with a Corbyn party is that it will split the progressive vote ...lol. Yes, the progressive party that just plotted to do away with a quarter of million disabled people and imitates the far right rhetoric of Enoch Powell.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 July 2025 07:07 (four months ago)
was thinking towards voting Green the next time I vote. But it's hard to forget what a bunch of risible melts they were 2015-19 and Polanski is tainted by being an ex-LIB-DEM (ffs!) who joined in on the Corbyn is an antisemite pile on. I believe even with a left-wing leader, the green party is too politely democratic to root out the melts and eco-fascists who will undermine anything that is good about them, again. A brand new left-wing party could be quite exciting.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 July 2025 08:21 (four months ago)
Sultana's timing on this is v good imo. The govt's weakness over the welfare bill and Mamdani's victory in New York being global news has created an opening for this in The Discourse.
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 4 July 2025 08:38 (four months ago)
I love they will do fake focus groups but how is this cost cutting? It can't be that expensive to get a group of racist blokes to be nudged into chatting shit for an afternoon.
Once you can hallucinate the public, what is the point of elections? pic.twitter.com/KYCogCSyp3— David Timoney (@fromarsetoelbow) July 3, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 July 2025 08:58 (four months ago)
he's even more cracked than Dom Cummings was and even dumber.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 July 2025 09:08 (four months ago)
sYsTemS ThInKinG
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 July 2025 09:10 (four months ago)
Corbyn silence on this really nagl. Even if there weren't rumors it would be something to announce together.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 July 2025 09:27 (four months ago)
Yeah i can believe Pogrund is chatting shit but uh, the time to hesitate is, uh, through
― ding us a dong, you're the gamelan (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 July 2025 09:30 (four months ago)
I'm also excited about a new left party - though fuck knows what's happening, Corbyn is silent as Starmer's Labour is on genocide so far - but it clearly won't be strong enough by 2029, even by next May, to contest power on its own; there needs to be a broad popular front, collaboration with the greens, indies, TUSC, SNP, even Lib Dems if it comes to it. Because the overarching goal now needs to be Get and keep Labour out of power. And you do that by facing off the economic policies that Tories, Labour and Reform have in common, and proposing popular alternatives - and let Reform play that game too, but emphasise their Thatcherite roots.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 4 July 2025 09:34 (four months ago)
And build power locally and use that as your base, not Westminster
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 4 July 2025 09:35 (four months ago)
Reform's decimation of local council budgets, priorities, pensions etc should do some of the work on a local level, even if its not reflected in the national polling, and a new party needs to go hard on that.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 4 July 2025 09:39 (four months ago)
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 July 2025 bookmarkflaglink
If Corbyn wasn't kicked out of Lab he wouldn't have left it.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 July 2025 09:46 (four months ago)
Yes his sentimental attachment to it is well documented but either he's in the new party or not, can't triangulate this.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 July 2025 09:53 (four months ago)
Reeves:
I want to see everybody who is arriving on a boat where a child’s life has been lost, frankly, should be facing prosecution, either in the UK or in France.
Presumably that would include the parents of that child.
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 4 July 2025 09:57 (four months ago)
Sorry not Reeves, Cooper.
Those children should have died from starvation and/or bombings back home, having them die on our shores is not cricket.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 July 2025 10:00 (four months ago)
(xp) You won't see Yvette Cooper crying anytime soon.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Friday, 4 July 2025 10:04 (four months ago)
Just slid past the Royal Courts of Justice on my dog walk and the demonstration in favour of Palestine Action is very busy and very upbeat.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 4 July 2025 11:00 (four months ago)
― ding us a dong, you're the gamelan (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 July 2025 bookmarkflaglink
Pogrund getting more 'broken clock' by the um, the hour.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 July 2025 11:46 (four months ago)
what's the rush, anyway? I'd never expect neat and well worked PR delivered in a timely fashion with a political project involving Corbyn!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 July 2025 11:59 (four months ago)
Farage comms is a fucking mess and all over the place. Reform is a barely holding together dysfunctional private company pretending to be a political party. They are still polling higher than Labour.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 July 2025 12:03 (four months ago)
Corbyn will umming and ahhing as usual.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Friday, 4 July 2025 12:04 (four months ago)
He just can't let go
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 July 2025 12:06 (four months ago)
If he said yes to this then the umming is morally indefensible.
If he didn't then wtf was Zarah playing at.
Just kinda expect more competence from my side, especially as media coverage of this party and of Reform will not be the same.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 July 2025 12:19 (four months ago)
I mean, there's a party with roughly 10% support she could defect to! Although of course if she joins I'll be off to get my Lib Dem badges, as was written
― imago, Friday, 4 July 2025 12:34 (four months ago)
Real change is coming. pic.twitter.com/PjMPhxUJz7— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) July 4, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 July 2025 12:43 (four months ago)
Haha, that still sounds a bit hedging but fuck it I'll take it, let's gooo
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 July 2025 12:58 (four months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/04/crying-women-workplace-tears-rachel-reeves#Echobox=1751632538
I called it tbf
― LocalGarda, Friday, 4 July 2025 13:01 (four months ago)
Totally - those negotiations, they might break down..xp
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 July 2025 13:01 (four months ago)
I support Amelia Gentleman's destigmatization of female tears. Hopefully we will see many MPs, tory and labour, of any gender, crying in parliament on a regular basis.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 July 2025 13:09 (four months ago)
Isn't she married to one of Boris' brothers?
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Friday, 4 July 2025 13:15 (four months ago)
A Gentleman never blogs twice
― LocalGarda, Friday, 4 July 2025 13:15 (four months ago)
She's married to some tory MP anyway, shows up in her Windrush book.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 July 2025 13:16 (four months ago)
Rosie Campbell, a professor of politics at King’s College London, said she was staggered by the negativity triggered by Reeves’s tears.
What negativity? Everybody I know enjoyed it immensely.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Friday, 4 July 2025 13:17 (four months ago)
Amelia Gentleman is married to Jo fucking Johnson. She's not be confused with other posh English birds with 19th century sounding names like erm .. Tuppence Middleton
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 July 2025 13:44 (four months ago)
I had Daily Politics on yesterday and they were having another civility in politics discussion, sickening.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 4 July 2025 13:53 (four months ago)
almost as bad the crying in parliament discourse. I couldn't even skim that A Gentleman piece without shouting at the screen.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 July 2025 13:55 (four months ago)
A year ago I didn't bother to vote. On track for the same thing in four years.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 July 2025 13:58 (four months ago)
https://i.ibb.co/67HJ0BYc/Gu-4m-XWk-AAij-Ti.jpg
The verdict of the public. Disgraceful. What about Starmer's free footy tickets, suits and shoes? What about plunging tens of thousands more kids into poverty? What about materially aiding and abetting a genocide? What about causing untold stress to millions of disabled people? What about the utterly fake farce of energy ""nationalisation"" ? What about failing to privatise Thames Water? What about solidifying the police and state and boondoggles for Palantir and arms contractors? What about the "ooopsie" of Starmer's Enoch Powell memorial speech, helping to approve Labourite racism right from the top?
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 4 July 2025 14:14 (four months ago)
I liked the cut of Prof D Edgerton's jib in a recent piece, where he totally fucking trashed Kieth's imbecilic industrial strategy. He come out with something like "nothing but the distilled banalities of Thatcherism and Blairism". He's an old history prof, but I love him when starts dissing Kieth.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 July 2025 14:19 (four months ago)
That was in the New Statesman! The magazine of "the coming Starm" loool. There'll be a few cancelled subs today.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 4 July 2025 14:24 (four months ago)
hard bastard
― ding us a dong, you're the gamelan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 July 2025 20:07 (four months ago)
it's kind of fucked when you knew how fucking precisely this Starmer project was going to cause harm, literally the second that Starmer won the leadership election. And none of us would be arrogant enough to claim to be talented predictors of outcomes. No this was brick dropping on your fucking heed obvious.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 5 July 2025 20:15 (four months ago)
What's happening?
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 5 July 2025 20:17 (four months ago)
oh, just the usual. nothing really of note in the last few minutes!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 5 July 2025 20:19 (four months ago)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg5dgr4mepo
― ding us a dong, you're the gamelan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 July 2025 20:19 (four months ago)
you don't know his principles, he met them on holiday
― ding us a dong, you're the gamelan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 July 2025 20:20 (four months ago)
oh. yeah. Starmer did a torygraph interview in which he declared himself HARD
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 5 July 2025 20:21 (four months ago)
he's been hanging out with "actor" Stephen Graham for too long
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 5 July 2025 20:44 (four months ago)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2k37x91vlo
More idiots hired off Telegram for an arson campaign.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 8 July 2025 16:07 (four months ago)
They'll be going away for a very long time, I reckon.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 July 2025 16:09 (four months ago)
Seems to be an impression out there that Telegram is secure and anonymous when it obviously isn't. well, I'm sure that Russia are clear about this, but they also don't care.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 8 July 2025 16:14 (four months ago)
It’s essentially the same level of criminal sophistication as you’re going to get from people who’d fall for online scams showing AI Jeremy Clarkson being bundled into a police van for revealing the truth about a new memecoin.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 8 July 2025 17:20 (four months ago)
Parliament and Hansard have removed “We are all Palestine Action” from my speech on Wednesday 2 July 2025 — despite me saying it.This is a blatant attempt to censor me and rewrite the record.This is not how a democracy behaves.We will not be silenced. pic.twitter.com/3JExvSNTNo— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) July 8, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 July 2025 18:55 (four months ago)
Same process as a number of public services. Run them to the ground then take away our rights to them.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jul/09/jury-trials-must-be-limited-to-save-criminal-justice-system-from-collapse-inquiry-finds
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 July 2025 09:57 (four months ago)
Lol what a fucking cunt.
"Asked about fears that reducing rights to jury trials would disadvantage people of colour and other minorities, Leveson denied that it would lead to more miscarriages of justice.
He said that he was seeking to tackle the risk of disproportionate outcomes by including two magistrates sitting alongside a judge in the crown court bench division and calling for an increase in magistrates from under-represented communities. He also said that – while he was aware of alleged racial bias among judges – he had not witnessed it during his 35-year career on the bench."
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 July 2025 09:58 (four months ago)
BREAKING: @unitetheunion policy conference have voted to suspend Angela Rayner from union membership.The Deputy Prime Minister has been accused of being complicit in the fire and rehire of Birmingham bin workers.The workers are striking over pay cuts of up to £8,000.— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) July 11, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 July 2025 11:50 (three months ago)
Good riddance.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Friday, 11 July 2025 11:50 (three months ago)
Could go in multiple threads, so going to post it here and in the I/P and other countries thread
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v47/n13/huw-lemmey/short-cuts
If we believe in freedom of conscience, we must deny active obedience. The article you are currently reading could be considered a criminal act and a terrorist document. I do not speak for Palestine Action. I am not a member of the group. I don’t know if anyone in Palestine Action is taking part in their actions on the basis of their spiritual belief. But I believe there is a moral case for disarming the machinery of war that is killing innocent civilians in Gaza with the complicity of the British government. I believe that damaging and destroying weapons of war is one way of waging peace: I can only conclude that for the British government, the waging of peace is terrorism. And I believe that the proscription under the Terrorism Act of groups that seek peace through non-violent means is political repression of the freedom of conscience. Resisting the destruction of human life and the perpetuation of a genocide against the Palestinian people is not wrong. It is the law, and this government, that is wrong.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 11 July 2025 18:00 (three months ago)
Good to see Lemmey in the LRB paper. Thanks for posting.
Reform are already here, in the guise of the Labour party. I can't see how anyone could vote for them again.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 July 2025 20:01 (three months ago)
As ppl have said this is stupid. Lets repeal the legislation.
I've just signed this petition for Yvette Cooper to proscribe the IDF.Will you add your name and share too? https://t.co/wGG91om96E via @38degrees— Andrew Feinstein (@andrewfeinstein) July 11, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 July 2025 12:09 (three months ago)
The Lemmey piece is very good, so ignore my quibble, but the whole proscription is so fucking outrageous it doesn't require reasoned debate
― ding us a dong, you're the gamelan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 July 2025 12:15 (three months ago)
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903
Is it realistic that this could be repealed?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 July 2025 17:36 (three months ago)
the Aktion T4 program to thin out the disabled numbers was an outrage. Now they are gunning for SEND funding... it just get's worse, every week of this dire government get's so much fucking worse. But nothing prepared me for the injustice of Starmer Labour going after Robert's fave dodgy porn sites!
sorry for the dig, it probably is a shitty and quite useless bill tbf.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 12 July 2025 17:56 (three months ago)
It keeps sounding worse, isn't it a potential threat to this very site?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 July 2025 18:06 (three months ago)
What an amazing first ten days it's been for that new left wing political party by the way. If they keep on cutting through like this we might have a second official tweet about it before the clocks go back, and by Christmas a public commitment to think about a spring conference— t𝕏om𝕏s (@T_om_s) July 13, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 July 2025 11:23 (three months ago)
sadlol
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 14 July 2025 12:45 (three months ago)
I know its dunking on Mason but we can't forget that Lab shot their own candidate last year.
Tell me more about the "Let Nigel win" party mate. https://t.co/TCRwcDIq0A pic.twitter.com/ksb81qVuOY— 𖤀𖦪ꚶꛘꛤꚳ𖤢ꛎꕷꛎꛘ𖢧 (@drunpleasant) July 13, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 July 2025 16:35 (three months ago)
Four years?!
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 July 2025 15:34 (three months ago)
in Starmer's Britain you even get two tiered systems of tree legislation!
inflation at 3.8% (the highest amongst G7). Who could have predicted a fake CV chancellor who publishes wiki quotes as her own writing would be as equally fucking economically illiterate as she is evil.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 16 July 2025 15:50 (three months ago)
two treeth Kieth
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 July 2025 15:51 (three months ago)
damn, they've been in power a year so can't even blame Liz Truss for how shite they are on the economy anymore. It must be disabled people on PIP who are crashing the economy, not these lame-brained fuckwits.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 16 July 2025 15:53 (three months ago)
it's weird all the other times governments did austerity it totally made the economy boom
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 July 2025 15:55 (three months ago)
“Mentioning freedom of Gaza, Israel, genocide, all of that all come under proscribed groups, which are terror groups that have been dictated by the government.”
He went on to say that the phrase “Free Gaza” is “supportive of Palestine Action”
One of the police officers told Murton they were “trying to be fair”, adding: “We could have jumped out, arrested you, dragged you off in a van.”
― crisp, Thursday, 17 July 2025 07:49 (three months ago)
Kent Police were doubling down too.
Kent police spokesperson said: “Under the Terrorism Act it is a criminal offence to carry or display items that may arouse reasonable suspicion that an individual is a member or supporter of a proscribed organisation such as Palestine Action.”
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 July 2025 07:58 (three months ago)
that whole thing made my blood boil, absolute fucking cunts
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 17 July 2025 08:17 (three months ago)
So the government has engineered things to the point that
Holding a sign calling for an end to genocide = terrorism
Two armed men threatening to drag a lone woman away in a van = protecting the public
There’s no pretence of morality, common-sense, proportionality, empathy, humanity. Have we ever had a government which hates and fears the general population this much? Which lacks confidence in itself so badly?
Peace is terror, removing basic benefits to the most vulnerable is kind, black is white, and if you don’t play along and remain silent then you’re proscribed, arrested, the whip is removed.
How on earth do they expect to win an election in a few years time, and if that’s not what they want then what do they want?
― crisp, Thursday, 17 July 2025 08:25 (three months ago)
So many of us knew they'd be this too. Alas not enough
― imago, Thursday, 17 July 2025 08:37 (three months ago)
The shit-eating grins these cops had on while setting out their understanding of the law is enough to show me they know they’re trying it on. Most arrests for protest are designed to inconvenience the protestors or land them in admin hell, as any arrests by these clowns would be NFA after a good six months of behaviour orders because CPS would apply the law correctly.
I hope the two officers have been reported for thin blue line patches and anything else a “reasonable person” might find objectionable. My next protest sign will be BAD COP NO DOUGHNUT
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 17 July 2025 09:05 (three months ago)
Can’t remember the last time I saw any uniformed police officer not wearing one of those patches tbh
I don’t think this is just a case of bad police trying it on though, I think this is exactly the sort of outcome hoped for by government when proscribing PA
― crisp, Thursday, 17 July 2025 09:15 (three months ago)
My wife's family (French) were surprised by what they viewed as a relatively open attitude towards pro-Palestine sentiment in the UK, we watched a bit of Glasto and there were a lot of Palestine flags (not Bob Vylan or Kneecap tbc), my brother in law turned to me and said "that would not be allowed in France". So yeah I can believe Starmer's trying to catch up to what Macron and Germany have been doing.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 17 July 2025 09:25 (three months ago)
“We could have jumped out, arrested you, dragged you off in a van.”Deliberately trying to remind us of somebody.
― nashwan, Thursday, 17 July 2025 09:36 (three months ago)
Any word of an Israeli delegation visiting the UK at the moment? There are armed police and bomb dogs round the back of the Savoy, which is usually a tell-tale sign of one.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 17 July 2025 10:33 (three months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nvfQw8UCDE
Bombdogs...
― koogs, Thursday, 17 July 2025 12:18 (three months ago)
A rare piece of good news: voting age will be 16 and registration will become easier. A shame there’s nobody in power worth voting for.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 17 July 2025 12:28 (three months ago)
Its hilarious Lab think young ppl will vote for them.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 July 2025 12:33 (three months ago)
This, on the new left party, is really good.
https://edmundgriffiths.com/newparmounlab.html
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 July 2025 12:35 (three months ago)
Once again, Diane Abbott is being investigated for maintaining that colourism is a different form of bigotry than that experienced by groups who are not brown or black. The right wing of Labour trying to tell D she’s getting her flavours of prejudice wrong again, is it?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 17 July 2025 12:41 (three months ago)
i hadn’t read the text of that new anti-trans law, really does seem like section 28 redux, fucking abominable.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Thursday, 17 July 2025 13:08 (three months ago)
Its hilarious Lab think young ppl will vote for them.3 million
― nashwan, Thursday, 17 July 2025 16:37 (three months ago)
lol ignore
― nashwan, Thursday, 17 July 2025 16:39 (three months ago)
the best argument for giving 16 & 17 year olds the vote is being made by every angry old cunt complaining about the idea on socials
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 July 2025 16:51 (three months ago)
the way the Diane Abbot story is being presented compared to what she actually said is shocking, I think the wording used by channel 4 news is libelous, hate to think what the worst media are going to say about it.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 17 July 2025 17:13 (three months ago)
It's completely innocuous and the Labour party will obviously seize on it to try to get rid of her but why is she revisiting this on Radio 4? Is this the best use of her mandate knowing by now what will happen?
Of course it's dumb they're so controlling and censorious but a vague subjective discussion about the semantics of prejudice and racism, of this nature, feels unbelievably detached and pointless in the current moment.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 17 July 2025 17:19 (three months ago)
it seems (Elections Bill) might be a decent policy, yet still completely at odds with McSweeney and Starmer's ... erm political strategy or self-interest, if you could dignify Starmerism as something that is well thought out and organised as a strategy, rather than just the last gasp default result of a moribund 2 party system that was already dead for years.
Also it's all very well and very high-minded of a party completely captured by a billionaire lobby group, legislating against foreign money influence in UK politics. like here's my fucking applause, straight out my arse, lads.
The young voters who are little racist fucks will just vote for Reform no matter what. The rest, apart from some of them middle-class Young Labour type freaks that were grown in vats, will vote for the Greens/the very well organised + much in a rush to get things done putative party of Corbyn/Sultana.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 17 July 2025 17:24 (three months ago)
Most likely about 70% won't bother at all
― a product of the times, those times being the end times (Matt #2), Thursday, 17 July 2025 17:28 (three months ago)
This kind of thing is p common, like as I've said the Tories stood over the digitisation of Register to vote, which obviously is bad for them entirely and was huge in the Corbyn election. Like oh look you can register to vote in ten minutes, like and share.
UK pol not quite as cynical about stopping people voting as USA, though I guess Tories finally cottoned on with voter ID etc, tho talk was that also mostly hit their codger core. All of which is fairly amusing tbh.
Tho I did notice when I moved flat most recently I used the service and got hit with some dumb red tape that had been introduced.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 17 July 2025 17:29 (three months ago)
Abbott suspended lol. these absolute cretins.
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 July 2025 18:10 (three months ago)
Brian Leishman as well, not particularly a lefty, but just a respected GP who considers policies that result in the social murder of disabled people as being quite beyond the pale for a so-called *Labour* govt.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 17 July 2025 18:34 (three months ago)
officially the pro-racism party now. or one of them at least.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 17 July 2025 18:37 (three months ago)
I kind of wonder whether the ‘hehe let’s suspend people by tómbola’ stuff is cover for them believing that Leishman, etc were going to defect when (if) the new party is established.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 17 July 2025 18:38 (three months ago)
tbh, I also suspect that if Abbott was that fussed about staying in the Labour Party long term she wouldn’t have gone on the radio to explain that she was right to say the stuff that got her suspended for a year last time.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 17 July 2025 18:40 (three months ago)
they really are the most clueless, idiotic machine-morons ever to form a UK govt. As well as being the most morally objectionable bunch of cunts. After the last 14 years that really is saying something.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 17 July 2025 18:40 (three months ago)
xpost I can't think why else she would bother. also the comments the first time were completely random, she mentioned people with red hair or whatever, it wasn't some important or measured intervention.
I've no doubt the powers that be in Labour are dying for an excuse to purge anyone left wing, but apart from the fact perhaps she knows her seat would be safe for a successor who's also a leftist, I don't really get why you'd go on Radio 4 and double down on those comments, which are completely abstract.
If it was about a specific incident or cause or event then that's very different, and the way the Labour party operates is grim af, but idk. Perhaps she just intends to join the new spinoff party and thought fuck it.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 17 July 2025 19:08 (three months ago)
it feels like it is reaching the late-period (post-Ukraine invasion fail) Putin phase of purges in the PLP here. In the sense that after a long period of removing whip/suspending/chucking problem minister from window being casually used as a thoughtless standard practise. This starts becoming not so much a brutal demonstration of power, but more so a symptom of insecurity and self-doubt, as your house of cards/power base isn't looking as steady as it used to look back under the prevailing assumptions they lived in 5-6 years previous.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 17 July 2025 19:30 (three months ago)
fuck knows what I'm typing here, but it made sense at the time!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 17 July 2025 19:32 (three months ago)
I find myself thinking about the Overton Window and how fast or slow things can shift when I think about a new Corbyn party in the current milieu. Like the last time he was the Labour LOTO, Gary Lineker, at his most despicably turgid meltish worst, would be declaring himself politically homeless because of a centre-left Labour leader etc.. This stuff is burned into the brains of a much younger than me + thee on this thread generation of the left, who are kind of scarred by this formative shit they lived through.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 17 July 2025 19:51 (three months ago)
Savoy bomb dogs never lie.
Hosted in Britain tonight by Keir Starmer’s Labour government pic.twitter.com/FtZhoxnJqx— Matt Kennard (@kennardmatt) July 17, 2025
― ShariVari, Thursday, 17 July 2025 21:23 (three months ago)
the thing that Kenard has done more successfully than most is connect the amoral careerist piece of shit Starmer has been since day fucking zero or 2008 if you want to be picky. When he was turning up to grovel to power at the Murdoch garden party, to how nothing ever changed since. He simply has always been a piece of shit. it's seemingly a simple skill set required to realise this , that not many possessed in the UK until it was already too late.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 17 July 2025 21:45 (three months ago)
The rumors here in her constituency is that she's been wanting to get out of the politics game for a while, for whatever that's worth.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 17 July 2025 21:46 (three months ago)
The debate on racism is so bad that even Abbott's reasonable point -- which as a black womman is important to her -- gets this disrespectful, nasty pushback.
If we had a culture that could converse on things like this we wouldn't be having the far right burning hotels with asylum seekers in it, and a racist PM trying to 'get' their 'point'.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 July 2025 07:52 (three months ago)
If Abbott had made a reasonable, nuanced contribution about how different minority groups are racialised and othered in different ways, we would probably still be having a similar argument play out in the press.
Trying to stake out a claim that Jews do not experience racism (and have not done so historically) still seems like a bizarre way to go about it, though.
― ShariVari, Friday, 18 July 2025 08:18 (three months ago)
But that isn’t what she said.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 18 July 2025 08:23 (three months ago)
Tomiwa Owolade claims that Irish, Jewish and Traveller people all suffer from “racism” (“Racism in Britain is not a black and white issue. It’s far more complicated”, Comment). They undoubtedly experience prejudice. This is similar to racism and the two words are often used as if they are interchangeable.It is true that many types of white people with points of difference, such as redheads, can experience this prejudice. But they are not all their lives subject to racism. In pre-civil rights America, Irish people, Jewish people and Travellers were not required to sit at the back of the bus. In apartheid South Africa, these groups were allowed to vote. And at the height of slavery, there were no white-seeming people manacled on the slave ships.
It is true that many types of white people with points of difference, such as redheads, can experience this prejudice. But they are not all their lives subject to racism. In pre-civil rights America, Irish people, Jewish people and Travellers were not required to sit at the back of the bus. In apartheid South Africa, these groups were allowed to vote. And at the height of slavery, there were no white-seeming people manacled on the slave ships.
I think her more recent comments were better but idk how else people were meant to interpret her original letter.
― ShariVari, Friday, 18 July 2025 08:26 (three months ago)
Well, that's Diane Abbott for you.
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Friday, 18 July 2025 08:37 (three months ago)
All I know is that I am fucking sick and tired of my MP, who campaigned to represent one of London’s most diverse constituencies as if he liked that aspect of living here, playing in the faces of black and Muslim women all the damn time, aided and abetted by the only right-wing Zionist prick ever to be born in Cork.
I would like Diane to go absolutely ham on these arseholes: ‘A multimillionaire Tory donor said he wanted me shot and you said fuck all in my defense, never mind applying hate speech laws to the guy. A woman cued up to be general secretary of ‘your’ Labour Party led a racist group chat about me and every last fuckstick on the right of your party joined in. She’s currently top brass at the lamest of our trade unions as a consolation prize. You saved places in public life for every single one of these arseholes, so I guess there’s no block to progress or earning power for being racist at Southside. You’re a lying sack of shit who took advantage of Labour members with premeditated false promises and you’re going to lose your seat at the next General Election.’
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 18 July 2025 08:51 (three months ago)
Her letter was objecting to a reasonable, nuanced contribution that was doing just that.... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/15/racism-in-britain-is-not-a-black-and-white-issue-it-is-far-more-complicated
― Bob Six, Friday, 18 July 2025 08:52 (three months ago)
I am not sure Owolade is really arguing in good faith either, tbh. He has been trying to develop a reputation as a young reactionary / Free Speech Union guy ‘rethinking racism’ for the last couple of years.
― ShariVari, Friday, 18 July 2025 09:03 (three months ago)
I'm glad someone else said it. Her original comments compared prejudice towards people with red hair to prejudice against Jewish or Irish people (not mentioning Irish people due to me personally being offended by that element of it, because I'm not, just for accuracy).
She now has effectively clarified her comments to say she means that people who are identifiably other when they walk down the street can more often be the victims of racism, which seems more clear and has not this time mentioned people with red hair. That was Gianni Infantino level.
Either way, I am not sure why she'd bring it up again unless deliberately wants an exit. The "debate" seems unattached to any particular policy or suggested action so essentially it's a public chatting shop about the definitions of words. I am not sure what the goal is there unless as suggested she does just want out.
It just seems bad for her and bad for progressive politics in general. And fwiw I am not saying don't say it because it will anger the Labour Party powers that be, it's just kind of mystifying.
I mean does nobody read the news report about this with a sense of despair? Yes at the Labour Party, yes at UK journalism, but sadly also yes when reading back the original quotes and a decision to dredge them up again, at Diane Abbott also, just unbelievably pointless and borderline ludicrous discourse.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 18 July 2025 09:13 (three months ago)
the only right-wing Zionist prick ever to be born in Cork
He was mostly a central midfielder
― LocalGarda, Friday, 18 July 2025 09:17 (three months ago)
Hahahaha
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 18 July 2025 09:35 (three months ago)
I think yesterday's comments were better, glad we all seem to agree.
In a culture where we could talk about all of this we would allow for comments that weren't exactly correct the first time, we could have better discussions on racism, which might lead to better actions by leaders.
As it is 'racism as experienced by different people' will be buried, the MP who started is suspended and hounded.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 July 2025 10:23 (three months ago)
Yep. Bring Stuart Hall back to life in 2025 and he’d find himself in a five-minute Newsnight ragebait segment tasked with debating Robert Jenrick on whether it’s ok to be white.
― ShariVari, Friday, 18 July 2025 11:08 (three months ago)
never forget this deep Bend It Like Beckham cut, lol!
Jess: “That’s not all. She called me a Paki. But I guess that’s something you wouldn’t understand.”Joe: “Jess, I’m Irish. Of course I understand what that feels like.”
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 18 July 2025 15:48 (three months ago)
you will never understand how it feels to be in a room surrounded by people culturally appropriating splitting the G
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 18 July 2025 15:52 (three months ago)
― ShariVari, Friday, 18 July 2025 bookmarkflaglink
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/18/diane-abbott-britain-race-conversations-minorities
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 July 2025 18:20 (three months ago)
My imaginary Stuart Hall zombie would decline any such invitation, if only because there would be no brains to feast on.
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 18 July 2025 18:47 (three months ago)
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/palestine-action-terrorism-raf-brize-norton-2027-trial-b1238875.html
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 July 2025 11:02 (three months ago)
Yes, they’ve been charged with a trumped-up espionage offence because a pure criminal damage one wouldn’t justify keeping them on remand for eighteen months.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 19 July 2025 11:16 (three months ago)
I'm told a potential Labour leadership bid from Wes Streeting is currently shaping up, with Shabana Mahmood broached as campaign chair— David__Osland (@David__Osland) July 19, 2025
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 19 July 2025 20:46 (three months ago)
The Lickspittle Cunt Administration
he barely hung onto his seat in the last election. Don't they get the fucking message? Nobody likes these ghouls, not any of them.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 19 July 2025 20:57 (three months ago)
Stoked for the Wesness
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 20 July 2025 10:26 (three months ago)
I'm afraid I must insist. You see, my voters, they has been most vocal on the subject of the Wes. "Where's the Wes? "When are you going to get the Wes?" "Why aren't you getting the Wes now?" And so on. So please, the Wes.
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 July 2025 10:57 (three months ago)
can't really comment at the moment, I'm suffering from a bout of Wes-a-rhea
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 20 July 2025 11:50 (three months ago)
Wes Miserables
― nashwan, Sunday, 20 July 2025 12:59 (three months ago)
inevitable Wes
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 20 July 2025 13:48 (three months ago)
Osland is not v reliable on much is he?
I would expect this to happen in a couple of years tho'.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 July 2025 13:49 (three months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jul/20/police-warn-inflammatory-online-posts-clashes-essex-asylum-hotel
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 July 2025 08:44 (three months ago)
I didn't hear anything about this on the radio this morning
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 July 2025 08:46 (three months ago)
If the word "terrorism" means anything surely this is what is is??? a drunk, violent mob throwing bottles and lighting flares outside the homes of vulnerable, innocent people????????
Oh no, I forgot, terror is only when it's violence against the physical assets of military contractors
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 July 2025 08:51 (three months ago)
I saw a vid from that protest and it says a lot about two-tier policing if there was only 5 arrests. What I saw was bricks being lobbed at cops and retreating black mariahs getting seriously damaged. It's incredible how soft pigs are on nazi thugs.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 21 July 2025 08:53 (three months ago)
there was a thug who pulled the wing mirror off a police van and then climbed on top, jumping on the roof shouting fuck off, bastards or summat like that. In the vid, he then just happily jumps down and disperses back into the mob without any cops giving him a kicking. Imagine if he had been wearing a Palestine Action t-shirt, he'd really be in trouble then.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 21 July 2025 09:06 (three months ago)
If he was wearing a Palestine Action t-shirt and he was 80, tbf
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 July 2025 09:15 (three months ago)
“Disappointingly we have seen yet another protest, which had begun peacefully, escalate into mindless thuggery with individuals again hurting one of our officers and damaging a police vehicle,” Ch Spt Simon Anslow said in a statement.
Which suggests they're fine with a racist mob non-violently threatening innocent asylum seekers on the spurious grounds that children are at risk of abuse. So what does non-mindless thuggery look like?
― a product of the times, those times being the end times (Matt #2), Monday, 21 July 2025 09:59 (three months ago)
Well it's like I said, once you damage a physical asset of the repressive state then you're in trouble
Encircling refugees' homes, shouting that they're not wanted? Free speech
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 July 2025 10:29 (three months ago)
Always interesting seeing "Save Our Kids" signs where for some reason they can't say from what/who. Men. It's men, right?
― nashwan, Monday, 21 July 2025 10:34 (three months ago)
Pretty good on how the proscription of Palestine Action works with our economic strategy.
https://toucheachother.substack.com/p/on-proscribing-palestine-action
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 July 2025 10:45 (three months ago)
two other, non-proscribed pro-palestine groups have had their bank accounts frozen:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/20/two-uk-pro-palestine-organisations-have-bank-accounts-frozen-gmfp-psc
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 22 July 2025 10:55 (three months ago)
news media and news social media is relentlessly trying to get me interested in the shadow cabinet reshuffle today and I would like them to stop please
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 22 July 2025 16:47 (three months ago)
it's crazy that a dyed in the wool right-wing tory fucker from the Theresa May era like Kit Malthouse is reminding Lammy of his obligations as foreign secretary to the basic human rights of Palestinians and adding that technically he could end up getting tried as a war criminal in the Hague. He has always been a grotesque careerist piece of shit, but how much more compliant and thoroughly evil is he going to be judged in the future on the genocide. As long as the vile toad get's his spell in the spotlight, that is literally all he gives a fuck about.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 22 July 2025 19:42 (three months ago)
Keir Starmer and David Lammy both belong in The Hague.— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) July 22, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 22 July 2025 20:22 (three months ago)
get em zarah
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 22 July 2025 22:27 (three months ago)
Reform are already here.
We're taking action to stop migrants working illegally as food delivery drivers. pic.twitter.com/I95654Vg3B— UK Prime Minister (@10DowningStreet) July 23, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 July 2025 16:02 (three months ago)
I try to ignore UKpol but ^that is so fucking disgusting, really impressive work from Keir "Der" Starmer. this is basically explicit incitement for nazis to attack delivery drivers, no?
― rob, Wednesday, 23 July 2025 16:11 (three months ago)
I wouldn't be surprised if this happened yes.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 July 2025 16:32 (three months ago)
there are already cunts out there checking random cars to see if they're Motability funded so yeah this is pretty much incitement to vigilantism
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 July 2025 18:15 (three months ago)
Disgusting. It’s not easy to qualify for a Motability car.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 23 July 2025 19:44 (three months ago)
Breaking news: Tsar good, boyars bad.
Scoop: Keir Starmer has asked to be involved in policy-making earlier and to be given more detail following the welfare debacle, as allies say a cultural issue was developing in Number 10 where the PM was bounced into decisions. Gift link 🔗 https://t.co/FcqJxyhoAv— Ailbhe Rea (@PronouncedAlva) July 23, 2025
― ShariVari, Thursday, 24 July 2025 08:17 (three months ago)
Milei and Trump will be toast by the time the general election comes along. So Farage and Badenoch modelling themselves on these to be failures is funny.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/24/kemi-badenoch-argentinian-president-javier-milei-template-conservatives-tory-government
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 July 2025 08:27 (three months ago)
Badenoch has been a disaster and definitely will be gone before the next election.
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 July 2025 08:31 (three months ago)
Jenrick however would be even worse and I think that's why she's still in a job frankly.
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 July 2025 08:45 (three months ago)
what is the Motability connection to immigrants? i only know them as an org that assists people w disabilities to get a car etc?
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 24 July 2025 09:04 (three months ago)
No Trace my point was that fash scumbags are already hounding disabled people as a result, at least in part, of government propaganda. So this latest "shop a Deliveroo worker" is entirely predictable in its outcomes
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 July 2025 09:29 (three months ago)
Jesus christ I had no idea that was happening.
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 24 July 2025 10:21 (three months ago)
A weird fact I learned last night is that Motability buys approx 1/5 of all new cars in the UK
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 24 July 2025 10:22 (three months ago)
I've heard some stories about people having their benefits entitlement reviewed, and Motability contacting them to end the lease before the claimant even received the letter stating their Mobility components entitlement has been reduced or stopped. Motability do not give out these leases easily at all!
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 24 July 2025 11:21 (three months ago)
https://www.yourparty.uk/
corbyn sultana party website is up
― nxd, Thursday, 24 July 2025 12:21 (three months ago)
it's not called Your Party, by the way. it does not yet have a name.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 24 July 2025 12:22 (three months ago)
I'll cry if I want to. You would cry to if it happened to you.
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 July 2025 12:23 (three months ago)
The left needed its own change uk the independent party for change
― sideshow melt (wins), Thursday, 24 July 2025 12:31 (three months ago)
Change UK are currently in power, have you not noticed?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 24 July 2025 12:32 (three months ago)
Chuka got his timing completely wrong, he could be PM now, what a useless twat
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 24 July 2025 12:34 (three months ago)
On 12 April 2021 he joined the investment bank JPMorgan Chase as Managing Director and the head of its ESG advisory efforts in Europe, the Middle East and Africa, and co-leading the global ESG investment banking team.[91][92][93] In 2022, Umunna was part of the JPMorgan team advising Vesa Equity, the investment business of Daniel Kretinsky, on their British investments which included 23% of Royal Mail.[94][95] He has been criticised by newspapers for being extremely highly paid in the banking industry despite prior criticism of the industry's high pay.[96]
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 July 2025 12:44 (three months ago)
probably better than being prime minister, but imagine the £££££ he could have earned after a year or two as PM
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 24 July 2025 12:49 (three months ago)
This is like releasing a movie trailer before you've decided on a title. Maybe they can run a Guardian poll to decide what they're going to call themselves?
― a product of the times, those times being the end times (Matt #2), Thursday, 24 July 2025 12:53 (three months ago)
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/labor
― a product of the times, those times being the end times (Matt #2), Thursday, 24 July 2025 12:55 (three months ago)
Great, The Drudgery Party it is.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 24 July 2025 12:57 (three months ago)
Prefer the Moonlight Party tbh.
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 July 2025 13:00 (three months ago)
With a newsletter called The Daily Grind
― a product of the times, those times being the end times (Matt #2), Thursday, 24 July 2025 13:10 (three months ago)
Yes, "we want you to be involved with everything - including the name!" is a bit of an eyeroll.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 24 July 2025 14:15 (three months ago)
Party McPartyface
― Mark G, Thursday, 24 July 2025 14:47 (three months ago)
> "we want you to be involved with everything - including the name!"
votey mcVote-face
― koogs, Thursday, 24 July 2025 14:49 (three months ago)
i imagine millions of bad actors singing up to that
also, some strange ui choices going on there. click on the right half of the statement to go to page 2? just let us scroll down like every other website in the world.
― koogs, Thursday, 24 July 2025 14:51 (three months ago)
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/2C4AAOSw44BYOw~B/s-l1200.jpg
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 24 July 2025 17:12 (three months ago)
80,000 sign-ups in five hours, says Jez.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 24 July 2025 17:19 (three months ago)
morelike it took him 5 hours to notice, amirite! Joking, I'm absolutely psyched for the existence of this new party and couldn't give a fuck how slow and dysfunctional, or unprofessional their operation is being called by friends and enemies. I'm going to get me some fucking photo ID and start voting again, for better or worse
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 July 2025 19:39 (three months ago)
Oh don't get me wrong, I signed up asap and they have my vote. Would just be nice to feel a bit more confidence.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 24 July 2025 19:49 (three months ago)
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 24 July 2025 bookmarkflaglink
At points during Corbyn's leadership there was talk of a split, and one question would've been which faction gets to call themselves 'Labour'.
I gotta say I would like the membership to vote on a name, hopefully someone will come up with a good one.
The members making a party where the members have control, where people from the rank-and-file can be leaders (and vice-versa)...so all that beginning with a name would be kinda good xp
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 July 2025 19:50 (three months ago)
yeah this is gonna be relentlessly attacked from day 1, especially by the grown up centre, and the last think it needs is to come out of the gate with some slick media optics. i doubt anybody involved so far is savvy enough to get that, the awkwardness is probably 100% organic, but i think that's almost necessary
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 July 2025 20:20 (three months ago)
Not sure tbh. Not about the media but about the people they need to vote for them. Shambling out of the gates like they spent a month arguing about stuff, including the name, isn't great. It's understandable but maybe the situation needs something different, not that there are people ready and waiting to provide it.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 24 July 2025 20:24 (three months ago)
Say that as someone agreeing with their policies p much entirely.
apparently this Labour government is now going after EHCP funding and the malfunctioning robotic automaton Bridget Phillipson is struggling to answer basic questions on this matter. I cannot say FUCK THESE PEOPLE enough times to express how much I despise them and everything they represent.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 July 2025 20:26 (three months ago)
idk i don't see any route to winning people over that goes thru the media so that will need to be addressed, but at this stage in proceedings you might as well not alienate your natural core by looking like another top-down grifters club where the members are only there to cheer along
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 July 2025 20:30 (three months ago)
Yeah, putting in something that's working from the bottom-up is really important.
And Lab will be around for the next 3.5 years, so this left party has time.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 July 2025 20:33 (three months ago)
something fresh and Mamdani-esque could have met the moment, I would have preferred Corbyn to take a back seat tbh
― tortillas for the divorce party (seandalai), Thursday, 24 July 2025 20:34 (three months ago)
The natural core surely knows Corbyn's and Sultanna's records speak for themselves so I don't think that's a concern.
Unless you're talking about a core that doesn't know their records and hasn't been activated yet - in ehich case I doubt they know the project exists!
xposts
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 24 July 2025 20:35 (three months ago)
These days I don't really trust any operation unless their Internet presence is half-broken
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 24 July 2025 20:41 (three months ago)
Got good news for you then.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 July 2025 20:42 (three months ago)
just need to harness the energy of Corbynism without the politics, oh yeah - that is how the current Labour govt got started. Scratch that one.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 July 2025 20:51 (three months ago)
what's yr beef with Mamdani's politics, calz?
anyway I dunno about having Corbyn take a backseat, his signing off on the party will attract a lot more ppl than Sultanna on her own
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 24 July 2025 20:54 (three months ago)
I see no other feasible members to lead the beginning of this but I also don't think people we already know can actually do well here.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 24 July 2025 20:57 (three months ago)
I do 100% want Corbyn on board, but as a chairman/senior figure rather than a co-leader who imo had his chance - if this setup was going to work I don't think we'd have spent a month waiting for a party and still not getting a name.
― tortillas for the divorce party (seandalai), Thursday, 24 July 2025 21:00 (three months ago)
Mamdani seems impressive and has a level of dynamism way beyond Corbyn, but this is in the milieu of fucking NYC mayoral politics in another Trump era.
why is it that melts always have stupid projections on any other politicians that have no bearing on UK politics at all, other than "well, at least it isn't Corbyn". Some fucked up melt brain group-think that never dies.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 July 2025 21:01 (three months ago)
Corbyn is a like a fucking demon for melt-brains, anyone who genuinely wants progressive politics would support him. And once again they won't support him imo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 July 2025 21:03 (three months ago)
Sultana is already there! I expect her to be this party's first outright leader.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 July 2025 21:14 (three months ago)
One thing I will say is Zultanna is not afraid to agressively mock the establishment figures frothing at the mouth over this, which obviously isn't Corbyn's style.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 24 July 2025 21:17 (three months ago)
yeah, she rags on paedo-adjacent Labour grandees for fun, and that is admirable!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 24 July 2025 21:19 (three months ago)
sorry but the best named party was this one https://t.co/jAHPp26Ywd— bat020 (@bat020) July 24, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 25 July 2025 05:34 (three months ago)
i liked the suggestion of the We Tried Asking Nicely Party
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 July 2025 06:19 (three months ago)
I'm just so psyched for the first wave of UK media that tries to infer there is an antisemitism problem with this party that doesn't really meaningfully exist yet. And just some more classic Corbyn derangement syndrome from the usual melts, I've missed all the dishonest anti-leftist bullshit!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 25 July 2025 06:36 (three months ago)
Mason has already lost his fucking mind even more than usual
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 July 2025 07:04 (three months ago)
Lol @ ppl tweeting about comms
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 July 2025 07:11 (three months ago)
this was supposed to be a joke https://t.co/0iHwh1fXkV— Crowsa Luxemburg (@quendergeer) July 24, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 25 July 2025 07:35 (three months ago)
I feel like, if nothing else, this whole enterprise is going to be a deep, satisfying reservoir of lols
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 July 2025 09:36 (three months ago)
What do people think about Zack Polanski, possible new Greens leader then?Positive: seems to have the right idea about most things, which cannot be said for the alternative (Ramsay/Chowns) who are all about the broad tent. Possible electoral pact with The Party With No Name.Negative: bit annoying, seems too impressed with himself, once agreed to hypnotise an undercover sun reporter into thinking she had larger breasts.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 July 2025 09:42 (three months ago)
once agreed to hypnotise an undercover sun reporter into thinking she had larger breasts.
That's a negative?
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Friday, 25 July 2025 09:46 (three months ago)
as long as that electoral pact is 'that new party being assimilated into the Green juggernaut' #backzack #greenolution
― imago, Friday, 25 July 2025 09:48 (three months ago)
xp I have no problem with it, but it's going to become an easy line of attack, "you're led by a crackpot fraudulent hypnotist"
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 July 2025 09:51 (three months ago)
all he has to do is grab a little pendant from his pocket, swing it while murmuring "yooou are feeeling sleepy, yooou will vooote for meee"
― imago, Friday, 25 July 2025 10:04 (three months ago)
fwiw having several smaller leftist parties who will create coalitions for govt is how it works for most of Europe and the insistence that one be integrated into the other a symptom of the binary thinking that makes US and UK politics so terrible
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 25 July 2025 10:20 (three months ago)
counterpoint: a serious and unified movement is needed right now
― imago, Friday, 25 July 2025 10:31 (three months ago)
Got to aim higher than the fucking Greens.
This reads well enough but as acknowledged its starting from v far away. Rather have a group which works towards that though.
https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/building-the-party
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 July 2025 10:42 (three months ago)
In today's news this is so corrupt.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jul/25/reeves-retrospective-legislation-potential-supreme-court-ruling-44bn-car-finance-scandal
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 July 2025 10:49 (three months ago)
she had better not fucking do that (I am due about £3000 compensation but even if I wasn't, etc.)
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 July 2025 11:04 (three months ago)
sorry the government desperately needs cash and reeves is going to TURN DOWN £44b from the institutions that have been absolutely creaming it in since 2008?!? is she fucking deranged??
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 25 July 2025 11:35 (three months ago)
The most rhetorical of questions
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 July 2025 11:38 (three months ago)
it's just flagrant corruption, she's more concerned about how much money she has personally pocketed from finance lobbyists. That has been her m.o. throughout her more so corrupt than dazzling career. Remember this the next time the vile piece of shit starts blubbing in parliament.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 25 July 2025 12:05 (three months ago)
"What do people think about Zack Polanski"
I think anyone with the requisite mindset to join the LibDems at some point in the their adult years is just not someone who should be trusted as a leading left-wing figure in UK politics.
In June 2016 he heckled Jeremy Corbyn at a Momentum rally due to Corbyn's stance on the EU
^^^^I mean look at the fucking state of this, lol
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 25 July 2025 12:15 (three months ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwrwfFzWMAA5AqM?format=jpg&name=900x900
I think there is actually something to see here, Zarah Sultana would agree
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 25 July 2025 12:25 (three months ago)
fwiw having several smaller leftist parties who will create coalitions for govt is how it works for most of Europe
this only really works because of the proportional representation systems most of those countries use, there's (mostly) no issue about splitting the vote & everyone accepts that forming coalitions is necessary
― ufo, Friday, 25 July 2025 12:56 (three months ago)
Hung parliament is v possible so 10-20 left MPs holding the balance of power would be sweet.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 July 2025 13:00 (three months ago)
Looking at that Reeves article, this was also linked. She has form.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/feb/17/supreme-court-judges-reject-reeves-motor-finance-intervention
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 25 July 2025 13:26 (three months ago)
Jezarah up to 300K
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 25 July 2025 17:14 (three months ago)
still seem to be nazis "protesting" outside refugee hostels every day
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 July 2025 17:25 (three months ago)
They are absolutely looking to make another summer of riots happen, good job the government and the pigs are taking firm action
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 July 2025 17:29 (three months ago)
A party that can talk about refugees like they are human beings would be really welcome rn.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 July 2025 18:12 (three months ago)
Yeah it's not like our minimum demands are utopian
Or apparently maybe it is
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 July 2025 18:20 (three months ago)
Not surprising how much they detest most of these new melt MPs
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jul/25/its-all-a-game-to-some-politicians-says-former-labour-mp-suspended-for-planning-rebellion
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 26 July 2025 14:09 (three months ago)
Interesting how they ask this melt at the end whether he'd join the new party, and its important they are not allowed to join.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 26 July 2025 14:18 (three months ago)
Grown-up politics.
And it is not just wayward MPs who have faced strong language from some in the Labour party. Newts and bats have had a rough time, accused by the chancellor, Rachel Reeves, and Keir Starmer of being the cause of Britain’s housing crisis. Now, snails have been added to the list.
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 July 2025 14:33 (three months ago)
Vote against the government? Let's do a shitty pun on "Hezbollah".
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 26 July 2025 15:01 (three months ago)
he loses the whip and then praises Labour's absolutely pathetic water policy. Melts like that get everything they fucking deserve and have no place or use in the Corbyn/Sultana party
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 26 July 2025 15:05 (three months ago)
what drives me nuts about Reeves and Starmer is how they only talk about the housing crisis as a supply issue. No wonder the economy is fucked with these geniuses running the show.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 26 July 2025 15:23 (three months ago)
So James Schneider, Corbyn insider, is actually married to Starmer's communications officer? Lol.— Red 'til I'm Dead (@suziegeewizz) July 26, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 26 July 2025 16:25 (three months ago)
We're in genuine Thick Of It plotline territory here
― imago, Saturday, 26 July 2025 19:45 (three months ago)
this is just like In the Thick of It
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 26 July 2025 20:15 (three months ago)
If only this was TV we could switch it off
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 26 July 2025 20:19 (three months ago)
happy 50th to superlative prime minister liz truss
― mookieproof, Sunday, 27 July 2025 00:02 (three months ago)
Lammy re: his "imposter syndrome" confession. Yeah, sure - it defies credibility that this arrogant, unprincipled, careerist arsewipe suffers from moments of self-doubt or a lack of self-confidence. The only thing that is really worrying him is that comment from Kit Malthouse about him ending up in the dock as a war criminal.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 27 July 2025 10:21 (three months ago)
Oh, and pissing himself laffing at the Queen's funeral is something you can only get away with if the press is predisposed towards yer.
― Mark G, Monday, 28 July 2025 08:29 (three months ago)
That was Kwasi Kwarteng! 👀
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 28 July 2025 09:15 (three months ago)
By the way, is the fact that half a million people have now "signed up" to the Cranberry/Sultana party getting any media coverage anywhere?
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Monday, 28 July 2025 09:19 (three months ago)
xpost oh yeah..
― Mark G, Monday, 28 July 2025 09:31 (three months ago)
.. he was on the TV claiming he also suffered from ImpSyn...
― Mark G, Monday, 28 July 2025 09:32 (three months ago)
Tom D: yes, all over the Sunday breakfast programmes but I did not dip in to see *how* they discussed.
Lots of socmed centrists saying this hands the country to Reform next election but a) if that happens, that’s on Starmer and his briefcases for fucking off the leftmost in Labour and b) the contortions of people I otherwise respect blaming Jez for Brexit occupied a great deal of space in the comments.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 28 July 2025 09:45 (three months ago)
That is obviously going to be the main line of attack, "we are bigger so you have to stand down or Reform wins". Hoping for a complete lab obliteration like the French PS experienced, though I guess that would need to include a new Change UK.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 28 July 2025 09:47 (three months ago)
encountered my first moot saying "magic grandpa" for years yesterday. 🙁 A mute for the moot.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 28 July 2025 09:51 (three months ago)
Next election could very well be a hung parliament where Starmer and Streeting both lose their seats to candidates from the Jezarah party. They could win a dozen seats easily and be kingmakers. Let’s not forget 2029 is a while away and Reform is full of ‘personalities’ capable of a fuck-up via the traditional rats-in-a-sack method.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 28 July 2025 09:58 (three months ago)
Been thinking about the prospect of their doing a deal with the Greens, it could work well as they represent some rural constituencies which are never going to vote Labour let alone Your Party and will be fiercely fought between tories and reform. So maybe best if the wooly melt old guard with their dithering both-sidesism on things like trans rights win the leadership contest.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 28 July 2025 10:15 (three months ago)
No, because the wider public have zero problem with trans people and nobody should appease gender criticals.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 28 July 2025 11:08 (three months ago)
oh I hate their position too, but there's only two sets of candidates.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 28 July 2025 11:12 (three months ago)
The first Momentum meeting I went to in 2015 was packed, with many first-timers to radical politics. None of them were given a chance to speak, and they sat in silence while long-time activists enjoyed making speeches to a packed room for once. The next meeting was much smaller. https://t.co/5bQ3UGL049— Dan Hind (@danhind) July 28, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 July 2025 14:09 (three months ago)
The more I read and absorb what ppl are saying the less I am interested in the next election. I want to see meetings which tap into the energy of people who want to see change first and have been engaged.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 July 2025 14:12 (three months ago)
Piece within that tweet is p good.
https://gaoblai.medium.com/roots-not-branches-making-meetings-better-in-a-new-left-party-0b10cdfd357e
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 July 2025 14:13 (three months ago)
I did see an interview with Corbyn the other and it's almost confusing to see a politician interviewed who is actually a human being and I think the interviewer was confused by it too.
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Monday, 28 July 2025 14:17 (three months ago)
i really like this kind of attention to what the point of a left political movement could be. i feel like these conversations get had periodically tho and then get lost in the usual blur of "the only point is to win stuff" guff that emanates from professional pols and their fans and pretty much anybody who can't see that the mess we're in is going to need a lot more to fix it than a new spin on playing by the rules as they're imposed by the hegemony
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 July 2025 14:20 (three months ago)
this also relates to why optics and comms are the absolute last thing that matters - to the extent that they do matter it's pointless if they're not in the service of a politics that already engages and liberates people
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 July 2025 14:22 (three months ago)
Besides the fact that a lot of these activists, from Owen Jones down, just aren't v reliable it would be good to be in a meeting where I can hear ppl who would never ever speak, and have other ppl talk it through in an open atmosphere. I know people's thoughts could be painful but we need more people aligned on a few principles.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 July 2025 15:05 (three months ago)
Schoolboy error from government minister this morning criticizing Farage for opposing this online safety bill by invoking Jimmy Saville - DOH!
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 July 2025 06:35 (three months ago)
500k have joined up, is what I am seeing..
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 July 2025 09:22 (three months ago)
Shows the hunger for...anything, the absolute, bare minimum. That's how bad it is.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 July 2025 09:23 (three months ago)
there are so many ways this can fail but what feels most important is starting conversations and new forms of organisation
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 July 2025 09:29 (three months ago)
Yes. There will be many, many dark years ahead, so starting there would be good.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 July 2025 10:20 (three months ago)
I don’t think Owen is joining the new party, on the basis that as a journalist he needs to be outside any party.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 29 July 2025 10:23 (three months ago)
how many of those 500k will actually end up joining the party?
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 29 July 2025 10:36 (three months ago)
That's an open question, no doubt a lot of ppl signing up for updates with no intention to join. Impressive figures nonetheless.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 29 July 2025 10:38 (three months ago)
Whether people join up or not I'm betting this is a LOT more people signing up than they expected.
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 July 2025 10:44 (three months ago)
Is it not basically par? Like it's an extremely famous politician, a former Labour leader who obviously represents a specific set of political positions? Not criticising it just it doesn't seem surprising. How many votes did he get to win his seat as an independent?
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 29 July 2025 11:04 (three months ago)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islington_North_in_the_2024_United_Kingdom_general_election
24k
― koogs, Tuesday, 29 July 2025 11:22 (three months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDC8lNkFfTQ
What is this strange mix of feelings? Hope, gratitude, anguish
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 29 July 2025 11:27 (three months ago)
lol I'm still getting Momentum emails and they just sent one that's an interview with Steve Witherden who they're heavily referring to as significantly left of the PLP we're just a little airborn we're still good we're still good..
― nashwan, Tuesday, 29 July 2025 12:22 (three months ago)
lost momentum
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 29 July 2025 12:48 (three months ago)
Palestine to be recognised as a state by the UK unless..it's allowed to become its own state?
― nashwan, Tuesday, 29 July 2025 16:23 (three months ago)
congrats to Peter Kyle on his hamfisted attempt at gutter politics that simultaneously makes him look a lower character than Farage and also reminds everyone in the UK that their deeply unpopular PM was the DPP that failed to prosecute Savile. lol, played lad.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 30 July 2025 06:24 (three months ago)
truly one of the worst bits of politics I've ever seen
― imago, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 06:39 (three months ago)
the hill I truly want to die on is calling all critics paedos to defend a terrible bill that was 99% drafted by the tories, lol.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 30 July 2025 06:54 (three months ago)
I described this as a schoolboy error earlier in the thread but that was grossly unfair on schoolboys.
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 July 2025 07:00 (three months ago)
Lol @ this nonsense.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/29/from-safety-first-to-palestine-first-keir-starmer-shows-some-leadership
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 07:57 (three months ago)
God what absolutely embarassing fanfic.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 30 July 2025 08:01 (three months ago)
I hear a lot of people saying that Kieth's conditional recognition of Palestine is some cowardly risible shit from a pathetic weak leader who absolutely nobody likes, seemingly apart from some graun hacks
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 30 July 2025 08:06 (three months ago)
So he's threatening to recognise Palestine as a state, but not even putting out there the possibility that we'll ever stop selling them arms? Is that right?
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 30 July 2025 08:17 (three months ago)
Plus we had a Labour minister this morning more or less saying Hamas must release the hostages and disarm first.
― Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 July 2025 08:19 (three months ago)
Honestly wonder if he'd have even made this feeble gesture if they weren't already worrying about losing voters to Zarbyn
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 July 2025 08:51 (three months ago)
about 90% of European leaders positions on international justice is two tier hypocrisy couched in lies + bullshit, it's just that Kieth is such a dull-witted, limited kind of actor that he kind of always says the unfair two-tieredness of things out loud and makes it central to all policy decisions in his sterile technocratic language.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 30 July 2025 08:56 (three months ago)
he so crayzeh
Yesterday, I published an article about yourparty.uk
I want to issue a public correction and a sincere apology for an error.
In that article, I said 500,000 people had signed up. That was incorrect.
It is now 600,000 — and counting.
Real change is coming.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 09:53 (three months ago)
^ Corbyn post on bsky
Will prob get pulled up for this in the papers.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 11:18 (three months ago)
My PM.
I met Chris Smalls in Coventry in 2023, standing with Amazon workers fighting to unionise.He has been abducted & brutally assaulted by Israeli forces for trying to deliver vital aid to Palestinians in Gaza with 20 others on the @GazaFFlotilla.We demand his immediate release. pic.twitter.com/N1AgiQHLLs— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) July 30, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 11:28 (three months ago)
Yup.
Can't stop thinking about how bookies aren't included in that UK online censorship stuff. Pornhub need to donate more to the next election campaigns, clearly— Stefan Bielik (@prstskrzkrk) July 30, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 20:09 (three months ago)
How did I momentarily forget that the Labour right were up to their eyeballs in the gambling ‘industry’?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 30 July 2025 20:38 (three months ago)
I think it has been illegal for bookies to allow people to gamble without validating their DOB since 2019.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 21:25 (three months ago)
there was some hilarious melt-on-melt violence at the Green Party hustings (comparing Polanski to Liz Truss,lol). That this kind of anti-leftist hysteria is still going strong in their party pretty much confirms how fucking worthless they still are.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 2 August 2025 10:27 (three months ago)
LONDON — MPs are connecting to virtual private networks (VPNs) as the U.K. government’s tech chief pleads with Brits to use them with care.
A POLITICO analysis of MPs’ expenses data shows that British lawmakers, including senior government ministers, are using commercial VPN software — and have charged their subscriptions to the public on expenses.
MPs with subscriptions include Business Secretary Jonathan Reynolds, who expensed a two-year subscription for NordVPN in April 2024 — and Labour MP Sarah Champion, who in 2022 urged the then-Conservative government to examine if widespread VPN usage among teenagers could undermine the protections afforded by age checks.
https://www.politico.eu/article/britain-mps-charge-vpns-expenses-minister-caution-tech-jonathan-reynolds-data/
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 2 August 2025 14:46 (three months ago)
the sort of shit that is going to guarantee pm Farage
it would be a grave insult to clowns to describe these contemptible arseholes in govt a clown show
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 2 August 2025 15:01 (three months ago)
But doctor I am Sir Kier Starmer etc etc etc
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 2 August 2025 15:53 (three months ago)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 2 August 2025 bookmarkflaglink
They are so Lib Dem. Bet you lots of the younger crowd that vote for them will become anarchists.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 August 2025 09:33 (three months ago)
Oh shit, that reminds me to vote. Polanski, obv
― imago, Sunday, 3 August 2025 09:49 (three months ago)
the faction that would jettison any principles to appeal to rural tories will always be too strong for the greens to ever transform into the kind of eco-socialist party the likes of Denya and Polanski are going for imo. Polanski, if successful won't face the levels of backstabbing sabotage Corbyn did, but still there will be resistance.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 3 August 2025 11:00 (three months ago)
Like its good that rural Tory and reform voters would be going away from them to the Greens but I'm not convinced the likes of Polanski would ever see through to an eco-socialist model. It would be more like 'private equity will get us to net zero by 2050'. They'll melt. The young crowd (not including LJ who is old now) will jog on.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 August 2025 12:42 (three months ago)
Rachel Reeves (no doubt after laughing herself into injury after a hilarious Matte Forde show) showed how dismissively switched off she is about NLP. Her coming out with all that "Corbyn was rejected twice by the electorate" "worst result since '35" stuff just underlines her cluelessness and addiction to easily dismissed party lines. She knows she's finished and even doing performative crying hasn't made her any less despised in the UK. She's rattled by Corbyn's popularity, something an evil psychotic liar like her can never achieve - even with the bbc doing fanfic PR on her behalf for a year, everyone still fucking hates her, lol.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 August 2025 18:13 (three months ago)
Labour homelessness minister Rushanara Ali threw four tenants out of her east London townhouse before relisting the property for £700 a month more in rent, The i Paper can reveal https://t.co/4MwOL283Zk pic.twitter.com/dnLhqI0U86— The i Paper (@theipaper) August 6, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 August 2025 20:05 (three months ago)
as a constituent, nothing would surprise me with her, completely useless, aloof, unresponsive, invisible. everything bad about mps in the uk.
when she got elected last time i had to make a formal complaint to the labour party to get her to respond to an email asking what her policies were along with her plans or concerns for the area.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 6 August 2025 20:34 (three months ago)
This is just so bad (copying a tweet)
"Rushanara Ali was previously stripped of the Grenfell brief after receiving over £9,000 in free hospitality from the Franco-British Colloque - a secretive conference that was sponsored by the parent company of cellotex — manufacturer of Grenfell's combustible cladding."
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 August 2025 21:08 (three months ago)
hahahaha what the hell. both of those stories are cartoonish enough for like, Moliere
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 August 2025 22:09 (three months ago)
jesus, i didn't know that. she strikes me as someone without a single principle whatsoever. this year i also mailed about the disability bill, like one line asking how she intended to vote, and she ignored the mail for about three months until a day or two before, then sent a reply that was like 'the oxford english dictionary defines bill as a piece of law yet what do we mean when we say bill...' or whatever copy and paste official position she'd been sent, for about 500 words, which didn't say how she intended to vote at any stage.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 6 August 2025 22:21 (three months ago)
it's hilarious how Starmer's homelessness minister is a beyond parody landlord ghoul who is making people homeless and his ex anti-corruption minister is currently embroiled in a case against her for an illegal land deal she was attempting to profit from, or rather is it predictably sickmaking rather than hilarious. I can't remember anymore. You've got to hand it to Kieth and McSweeney, they sure the heck know what "only the highest quality MP candidates" look like.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 7 August 2025 05:31 (three months ago)
I was trying remember the name of Starmer's ex anti-corruption minister and googled "illegal land deal" and she was top of the search results.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 7 August 2025 05:42 (three months ago)
"I know what it looks like but I was trying to understand my brief"
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 August 2025 10:06 (three months ago)
🚨 Projected outcome in Keir Starmer's seat:🟣 Your Party – 30% (new)🔴 LAB – 28% (-21)➡️ REF – 17% (+11)🟢 GRN – 10% (-1)🟠 LD – 8% (+2)🔵 CON – 7% (-1)Your Party GAIN from Labour pic.twitter.com/wUzrxZgvM1— Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️⚧️ (@LeftieStats) August 7, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 7 August 2025 15:17 (three months ago)
Oh there's no doubt Starmer is in danger of losing his seat in the next election.
― Corny Capitalism (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 August 2025 15:21 (three months ago)
hahahaha get fucked
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 August 2025 15:22 (three months ago)
(xpost)
A lot of other London Labour MPs are staring down the barrel too.
― Corny Capitalism (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 August 2025 15:22 (three months ago)
I don’t think Starmer (my MP) will stand at the next election tbh!
In Tower Hamlets, Rushanara Ali is only 1k up, from what once was a 37k majority. British Bangladeshis are a huge bloc on marches for Palestine and she’s been a human briefcase on that score (and if you ask anyone from that group about Tulip Siddiq, 🤬🤬🤬).
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 7 August 2025 15:32 (three months ago)
Maybe he'll do a Harold Holt
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 August 2025 15:39 (three months ago)
It'll go higher
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 August 2025 15:41 (three months ago)
Seeing quite a few trans people/allies in Corbyn's and Sultana's replies on Bluesky angry and upset about a lack of statement of support for them, in reply to posts about a completely different subject. Just comes across exactly like how they and others were hounded on Twitter in the same way over perceived antisemitism. I get the value of unequivocal (and regular) statements but this is just how some people who feel an existential threat will react I guess? It feels like if there is an official statement (esp. re actual policy tho it seems those are a while away) of some sort, or even a quote from a recent interview (Corbyn made a pro-trans statement from last year), it just feels like some would ignore it or deem it inadequate. Not really sure how to feel about it but it's certainly a pattern playing out on social media.
― nashwan, Thursday, 7 August 2025 15:41 (three months ago)
Stats for lefties is a trans woman and has come out strongly for the greens, partly because of (what they say) are trans issues, partly bcz their politics is melt.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 August 2025 15:44 (three months ago)
I'm hearing there are Lammy Out posters all over Tottenham, and there was a big demo outside his previously quite secret constituency office the other day. Clearly his constituents were not impressed with the self-important fraud recently talking about imposter syndrome and the massive sacrifice he made of having to interrupt a skiing holiday for a state visit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 7 August 2025 15:44 (three months ago)
I know trans people who have signed up and both Corbyn and Sultana have always been solid trans allies. I would think that conference is the place to ratify any party positions.
BTW, here’s the property Rushanara Ali is selling:
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/155479592#/?channel=RES_BUY
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 7 August 2025 15:46 (three months ago)
The last thing this putative party needs is preemptive statements of policy from on high, on the other hand it wouldn't kill anybody to stress that yes transphobia of any stripe must be off the table
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 August 2025 15:47 (three months ago)
I've no doubt transphobia will be off the table and that there will be 'socially conservative' members too. Just like the Greens.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 August 2025 16:04 (three months ago)
if it is going to be a grassroots party without the painful top down hierarchy of Labour then there will have to be clear rules i.e. bigots don't get a voice
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 7 August 2025 16:07 (three months ago)
Yeah that basically
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 August 2025 16:14 (three months ago)
In fact anybody unironically complaining about "identity politics" should go straight on the block list
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 August 2025 16:15 (three months ago)
There’s a Islamophobia bot quality to all the accounts trying to stir shit up by characterising independent Muslim MPs and their/JCZS supporters as too ‘socially conservative’ to accept trans people as comrades.
Don’t fall for it!
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 7 August 2025 16:20 (three months ago)
No doubt, you can see plenty of bad faith scumbags getting their class in already, but there's also a bunch of SWP-adjacent bad faith scumbags who are likely to fly under the radar of our leftist brethren and they also need to be shut right out
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 August 2025 16:24 (three months ago)
Class = claws, stupid phone
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 August 2025 16:25 (three months ago)
Amazing she was in the job by 8am this morning
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/aug/07/uk-homelessness-minister-rushanara-ali-faces-calls-to-resign-over-tenant-eviction-claims
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 August 2025 21:04 (three months ago)
Am sure there will be a Green/YP pact (when Polanski wins). As for who I'm going to vote for, it'll be whichever one of those two is in the best position to unseat the Labour incumbent (Other Reeves), should become clear nearer the time
― imago, Thursday, 7 August 2025 22:39 (three months ago)
Yup to this - no landlords in any socialist party
Bar Jeremy and Zarah, I'm pretty certain every other member of The Independent Alliance is on the list. Just because they're good on Palestine doesn't make them comrades. IIRC, most if not all of them, voted against the legislation on charging VAT on private school fees. https://t.co/lpbAcbxieV— Max Shanly (@maxshanly) August 8, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 August 2025 14:17 (three months ago)
Correct
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 August 2025 14:25 (three months ago)
The Ace with the Mase soft-left ex-Labour MP from Brighton was a landlord, but oh no he was a nice landlord who cooked parkin for his tenants. HE'S STILL GOING IN THE DEATH-PIT!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 8 August 2025 14:48 (three months ago)
Surprise Surprise. Adrian Ramsay.
"I co-own a property with my ex-wife, which we used to live in. I don’t make a profit from it as I have kept the rent below market rate. I don’t intend to be a landlord long-term."
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 August 2025 14:50 (three months ago)
Just for being so nice, I do hope Adrian doesn't run into any accidental landlord killers.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 8 August 2025 14:53 (three months ago)
Its such a naked lie he doesn't make a profit from it. But when you want to get elected...
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 August 2025 15:10 (three months ago)
"below market rate" these days doesn't mean shit. Even social rents are going up fast. The guy's a fucking enemy.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 8 August 2025 15:14 (three months ago)
Chill out lads, Cuddly Zack's got this
― imago, Friday, 8 August 2025 15:15 (three months ago)
(if he's a landlord too I fuckin give up) (he can't be surely)
“My aunt went on a state visit to Russia, and my sister and I decided to travel from London to go see her in Russia,” she says. “I was not involved in any sort of political discussions. We were sightseeing, and we were having a good time, just going to restaurants, shopping. Then on the last day, all the politicians who were there, their families were invited to a tea and reception, and a photo was taken. I met Putin for two minutes.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/aug/10/im-collateral-damage-ex-minister-tulip-siddiq-on-her-bangladesh-corruption-trial
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 10 August 2025 18:10 (two months ago)
"My aunt went on a state visit to Russia" is a hell of an opening gambit, must try to work this into future conversations
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 10 August 2025 18:17 (two months ago)
you can see why Kieth & McSweeney saw the potential for a great anti-corruption minister
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 10 August 2025 18:20 (two months ago)
"Labour"
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 10 August 2025 18:46 (two months ago)
at least one wikipedia editor has a sense of humour:
As part of the centenary celebrations of the Women's Suffrage Centenary in the UK, Yvette Cooper wore an outfit and rosette in the colours of the Women's Social and Political Union[56], an organisation which conducted a bombing and arson campaign between the years 1912 and 1914, causing injuries and deaths.[57][58][59][60][61]
― ledge, Monday, 11 August 2025 14:33 (two months ago)
Cooper using cryptic insinuation to suggest we don't know what the true security risk of Palestine Action is, but she can't say either because it's ... shhhh... top secret, lol.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 11 August 2025 20:03 (two months ago)
Still processing that, as bad as things are in the US, hundreds of people were just arrested in London for doing a free speech.
― nashwan, Monday, 11 August 2025 20:26 (two months ago)
in some ways JD Vance is correct, this country has a wretched history on free speech and is only getting worse.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 11 August 2025 20:30 (two months ago)
“You don’t know the security issues, they go to another school.”
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 11 August 2025 20:30 (two months ago)
The whole ‘many people do not understand the true nature of this organisation’ is so Trumpy in its total lack of any supporting detail and complete disregard for what everyone else can actually see and understand.
If anyone associated with PA had done anything more violent than win an arm wrestle it would have been on every front page for a month.
― crisp, Monday, 11 August 2025 20:32 (two months ago)
Getting strong "dirty dossier" vibes about all this.
― Peter No-one (Tom D.), Monday, 11 August 2025 20:36 (two months ago)
it's not like PA dont give full disclosure to their illegal activities. They release videos of themselves fucking up weapons of genocide factories.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 11 August 2025 20:38 (two months ago)
A Labour MP told a friend of mine that actionists who damaged weapons at Brize Norton went in on electric scooters and might’ve done Cooper a favour by showing up security which shouldn’t have been that lax.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 11 August 2025 20:42 (two months ago)
look, palestine action could seriously threaten career prospects for honest working folk who just want to be left in peace to make bombs for a living
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Monday, 11 August 2025 20:49 (two months ago)
About 25 years ago I interviewed the Ploughshares women who disarmed a Hawk jet headed for East Timor and were acquitted. From Wiki:
Accused of causing, and conspiring to cause, criminal damage, with a maximum ten-year sentence, they pleaded not guilty arguing that what they did was not a crime but that they "were acting to prevent British Aerospace and the British Government from aiding and abetting genocide", referring to the genocide taking place in East Timor. They were found not guilty of criminal damage at Liverpool Crown Court, after a jury deemed their action reasonable under the Genocide Act 1969. This made it the first Ploughshares action to result in a not guilty verdict.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 11 August 2025 21:06 (two months ago)
Alexei Sayle interview with a member of PA a couple of years back
https://overcast.fm/+AAl-ve3126U
Part of the reason for the proscription is that British juries tend to accept the defence that direct action is doing a crime to prevent a larger one and almost always acquit - infuriating those who would wish it were otherwise, hence the rash of anti protest and anti free speech laws in the last 25 years.
― Ed, Tuesday, 12 August 2025 00:19 (two months ago)
PA volunteers possess a level of bravery and selflessness in putting themselves in physical danger and legal jeopardy for a good cause, that a ghoulish corrupt piece of shit like Yvette Cooper could never comprehend. The only positive about this period is that everybody despises Labour as much as the left have since the Starmer takeover. It's only taken them a year to get to the Thatcher Poll Tax period of national odium.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 05:48 (two months ago)
Also many of the sit-in protestors will be tried before magistrates rather than by jury trial, a work-around that’s guaranteed to get convictions.
Most of the actionists’ cases are still with the CPS and charges have not yet been brought. They will almost certainly have jury trials. I
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 05:58 (two months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/aug/12/david-lammy-faces-possible-legal-action-over-foreign-office-secondments
― Peter No-one (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 07:23 (two months ago)
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/society-equity/wikipedia-operator-loses-court-challenge-uk-online-safety-act-regulations-2025-08-11/
Is Wikipedia toast?
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 August 2025 09:06 (two months ago)
No. The rules do not currently apply to them and they’d still be able to challenge the category 1 designation, on the grounds of proportionality if they did, at a later date. The judge seemed pretty sympathetic to the case.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 12 August 2025 09:22 (two months ago)
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:tey3jrijuqgcjbhjqzwdghdn/bafkreigkvv55r5decc23djv3ycaebjdnojb536inv3mqejxgqdbh6lizjq@jpeg
lots of accounts are sharing this on bluesky and I was rolling my eyes at how many people were falling for a blatantly obvious spoof but then I checked his twitter account and it's real
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 09:25 (two months ago)
save the white race, so we can keep having white serial killers and white gangsters like God intended
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 09:29 (two months ago)
the ghost of Jack the Hat McVitie was unavailable for comment, because he was too busy stabbing some bleeding mug to death for looking at him wrong.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 09:46 (two months ago)
He's only voicing legitimate concerns over whether there's any room in London anymore for genuine Cockney psychopaths.
― Peter No-one (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 09:49 (two months ago)
worth noting that the Kray twins were apparently of Irish, Austrian Jewish and Romani descent, and not the distant scions of Alfred the fackin' Great or whoever
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 10:44 (two months ago)
And the royal family were Germans so that rules Jack the Ripper out too.
― Peter No-one (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 10:50 (two months ago)
of course there had to be some distant Irish in there, as there is in all the worst people in the UK.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 10:54 (two months ago)
Like Tommy Robinson in fact.
― Peter No-one (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 10:56 (two months ago)
and it was the East End community that chased the fash scum out of town in the battle of Cable Street, that is the true spirit of the place, fucking disgusting cretin. ugh, why can't he die already
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 11:06 (two months ago)
I recently read The Troubles by J G Farrell, he seemed like a fine example of UK Irish heritage ppl, amongst a bunch of vile shitbags!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 11:21 (two months ago)
I picked up a J G Farrell recently from the neighbourhood book nook! "Someone else around here's been watching the latest Adam Curtis", I thought to myself.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 11:24 (two months ago)
lol, that's what led me to him and listening to the RTE program with rather haunting interviews with the mother and her kids who witnessed him drowning.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 11:26 (two months ago)
the last thing he heard before he expired in the sea was the mother shouting at him "take your boots off, have you taken your boots off?"
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 11:29 (two months ago)
^ every mum when you get home from football practice
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 11:33 (two months ago)
she was giving some good advice for when you are clearly drowning in rough stormy water!
she said his bobbing head just looked at her, then her kids for a few seconds and then finally sunk under.
apparently JG's Irish mother was a master storyteller, that's how you become good diaspora.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 11:36 (two months ago)
Whereas Tommy Robinson's Irish mother was forever shouting at him "take your jackboots off, have you taken your jackboots off?"
― Peter No-one (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 11:37 (two months ago)
haha!
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 11:40 (two months ago)
enjoying the thought of our tommy bobbing around in the ocean somewhere miles offshore, not drowning but sieg heiling
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 12:04 (two months ago)
uh, not sieg heiling but drowning rather
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 12:06 (two months ago)
fucking brain
"Lammy refers himself to watchdog after fishing illegally with JD Vance", headlines you wouldn't have predicted 5 years ago etc
― slip a gallon to me alan (Matt #2), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 13:42 (two months ago)
thing is he is such a greedy corrupt cunt that the watchdog should be inspecting his register of interests very very closely, he's one of the greediest, most corrupt cunts in the house along with the most venal tories. After the scumbag has been indicted by The Hague of course.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 14:01 (two months ago)
A van bearing a meme image of J.D. Vance drove through Charlbury, England, near his vacation spot.The event was organized by the British group "Everyone Hates Elon."
The event was organized by the British group "Everyone Hates Elon."
the new LBD has dropped
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 14:12 (two months ago)
I still blame LBD for Dominic Cummings going unpunished during lockdown because they protested him in the street where he lived, and the centrists took umbrage (IIRC the neighbours were delighted).
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 14:21 (two months ago)
pathetic groups like this should be proscribed for bringing the whole concept of protest into disrepute, and being pathetic posh melts.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 14:24 (two months ago)
these people are not activated by the UK govt being complicit in genocide or doing social murder policies, no let's just spend a fortune put JD Vance memes on vans and signs everywhere. Waste of space.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 14:36 (two months ago)
TBF to them, LBD are very visibly anti the genocide.
I don’t expect well to do people who live in the twee capital of ENGERLAND to have a response that isn’t twee NIMBYism.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 14:42 (two months ago)
I didn't realise that Lammy has history of grovelling to JD Vance. He's among a group of right-wing Labour blokes who found his book compelling and it resonated somewhat in comparison to their own bullshit humble-origin stories. A bunch of fucking idiots would find his book compelling, but more switched on people denounced it as rather dumb in places and highly inaccurate in others.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 14:50 (two months ago)
I forgot the podcast, but I think Mark S linked it and it featured some people who read that book so you don't have to and their observations on how dumb that book was were amusing.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 14:52 (two months ago)
My favourite led by donkeys fact is that one of them revealed he got into activism when the bbc were trying to cancel 6music
― from…Peru? (gyac), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 14:55 (two months ago)
that was their October Revolution!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 14:58 (two months ago)
lmaooo
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 13 August 2025 15:16 (two months ago)
was it this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skTxKhd916Y
― mark s, Wednesday, 13 August 2025 15:19 (two months ago)
ah yes, thanks. That is worth another listen.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 15:20 (two months ago)
Tbf I got into activism when the BBC started 6 Music
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 15:23 (two months ago)
know your enemy also has a j. d. vance episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/know-your-enemy/id1462703434?i=1000664905371
― mark s, Wednesday, 13 August 2025 15:24 (two months ago)
David Lammy never misses an opportunity to drop that he has an Ivy League JD degree (hence grovelling to Obama - his Harvard classmate - and Vance alike).
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 15:31 (two months ago)
xp but doctor, JD Vance is my enemy
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 15:34 (two months ago)
just remembered that JD Vance considered it noteworthy that when poor American folks are shopping they used food-stamps to acquire food, and paid for their booze with cash - like that was some kind of fraudulent transaction. Mindblowing. You can see why this booked chimed with all the worst people in UK politics.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 15:42 (two months ago)
btw when I Google his name its all about the fishing licence and not this👇 weird that isn't it? https://t.co/FtmyUwIEhN pic.twitter.com/3nBT5n7Wrp— Terry Fuck (@terryfuck45) August 13, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 15:55 (two months ago)
At least he's not the Fisheries Minister, that's the way things usually work with this government.
― Peter No-one (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 15:57 (two months ago)
https://bsky.app/profile/flyingrodent.bsky.social/post/3lwdqvjictk2k
this thread about the background and mindset of a lot of Reform voters is interesting, reminds me of lots of ppl I used to know at my old job (a while ago now, early to mid-2010s), particularly this one woman who very much had the same worldview as the one described above (ppl like her were mugs for working hard and playing by the rules, the government was indulgent of immigrants/criminals/benefit claimants who were getting something for nothing) and would joke about she might vote for the BNP - the thing is, it WAS a joke afaict, she had a similar worldview to the BNP, but I don't think she'd have ever voted for them - they were beyond the pale, fascist thugs etc. I'd bet she does now vote for Reform though, because they've managed to become 'respectable' in a way the BNP never did.
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 14 August 2025 10:49 (two months ago)
this is the spot where the right is fracturing right now between the likes of Farage/Lowe/Robinson. Farage is trying to project himself as a more respectable politician. There is a posh Tory guy I speak to who said he spent a year trying to like Starmer, but absolutely loathes him. He's a vaguely socially liberal Tory who would never vote for Reform. I think these are the people Farage is trying to win over. Some of them he might.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 14 August 2025 11:18 (two months ago)
He also needs to be seen as a safe pair of hands, not Trump 2.0, by the Tory press
― ShariVari, Thursday, 14 August 2025 11:22 (two months ago)
a triumphant govt messaging blitz over 0.3% growth. Wow, I wonder by how much of a nought point something fraction did that defy the forecasts by (tbf nobody gives a fuck about GDP anyway). Happy shiny dogshit Friday!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 15 August 2025 07:48 (two months ago)
it's funny seeing some economist describing it as a slowdown in comparison to Reeves chirpy bullshit
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 15 August 2025 07:51 (two months ago)
This article is hilarious and I want to pick apart why. 🧵 pic.twitter.com/FmOqIlv8ce— Alexander Louis Sallons (@sallonsax) August 17, 2025
Polanski has really got under the skin of the eco-tory wing of the Greens who are hinting at a "hostile takeover", also it is very amusing how bad Ellie and the accidental landlord are at campaigning/doing factional smears, she even re-used that appalling Starmer jibe about them "not being a party of protest" lol, I only steal political disses from the best.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 18 August 2025 09:25 (two months ago)
Christ, fuck off, The Guardian
― imago, Monday, 18 August 2025 09:34 (two months ago)
it's reminding me of the 2015 Corbyn wave of entryism, and all the corrupt careerists start crying about what is happening to THEIR party.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 18 August 2025 09:51 (two months ago)
One of his backers is Caroline Russell, the Green leader on the London assembly, where he also sits.
aka Lady Keating, wife of the former CEO of the organization I work for. A man who was able to walk away scot free in spite of presiding over the biggest disaster in the otganization's history and get knighted into the bargain. He joined us straight from the BBC where he was implicated in the Jimmy Saville cover-up and had to be shamed to give up a £375,000 pay off when he left the BBC. I know you shouldn't blame spouses for the misdeeds of their partners but I hate all of these corrupt cunts.
― Peter No-one (Tom D.), Monday, 18 August 2025 09:51 (two months ago)
I can’t decide if this is funny or tragic.A man got detained in Scotland just for wearing an anti-AL shirt that sounded like *Palestine Action* pic.twitter.com/6EfTsxaeWD— Abier (@abierkhatib) August 18, 2025
these days, in Starmer's Britain, you get arrested and thrown in jail for *checks notes* wearing an anti-AI animation t-shirt with the words Plasticine Action on it and a pic of Morph.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 18 August 2025 12:45 (two months ago)
All these years of Yvette Cooper being held up as an exemplary grown-up, a highly competent politician. Lol, that image of her is in tatters, she's going down in history as the most idiotic and incompetent joke home secretary ever.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 18 August 2025 12:50 (two months ago)
She will certainly have to resign if PA win their court case.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 18 August 2025 13:07 (two months ago)
She's been obsessed with allowing the police to release the ethnicity and nationality of SUSPECTS in criminal cases which I just.. how does she think this will end? Does she really think announcing that a suspect is Pakistani will "clear the air"?? Cause guess what if the suspect is white they're not going to announce anything
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 August 2025 15:47 (two months ago)
revolving pogroms for every time a non-white person commits a serious crime? What an absolute piece of shit (sorry shit for conflating you with Cooper).
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 18 August 2025 16:13 (two months ago)
xpfeel like this was the precedent set by making clear that the suspect in the lfc parade car thing was white and british in an attempt to stop a southport aftermath riot situation.
― oscar bravo, Monday, 18 August 2025 16:55 (two months ago)
"Droughts in Spain, Italy and Portugal, where the UK sources much of its fresh fruit and vegetables, have pushed up prices this summer at a time when prices would usually fall."
Inflation will never get back to 2%.
On the plus that's the least of our issues
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 August 2025 07:30 (two months ago)
Asked about the issue on Tuesday, Keir Starmer’s official spokesperson said the prime minister was a “patriot” who believed people should “absolutely” fly the British and English flags, later clarifying that he was not familiar with events in Birmingham or Tower Hamlets.
From the Guardian article about these "lets raise the St George's Cross on every lamppost as a sign of inclusion and unity" cunts, but mostly just another opportunity to wonder at the way at which Starmer manages to row in beside evil and then also row back while making clear that it's not because he's got a conscience or anything, he's just incompetent. Another bold statement which makes no-one at all more likely to vote for him; in a way it's an artform.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 20 August 2025 12:36 (two months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8scSwaKbE64
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 20 August 2025 12:38 (two months ago)
Welcoming fascism with kinda folded arms
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 August 2025 12:39 (two months ago)
Much is explained here.
The UK is about to give Israeli arms giant Elbit a £2bn contract, per today's @PrivateEyeNews. Mid-genocide. Can we protest this? Or would that be "targeting Jewish-owned businesses"? pic.twitter.com/Ss060N17CX— Dimi Reider | dimireider.substack.com (@reider) August 20, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 August 2025 10:13 (two months ago)
Lucie Connolly declares she is the UK's Nelson Mandela
this fucking moron is going to be everywhere for the foreseeable future, ugh fuck this country's terminally diseased right-wing media! The shit-brained poltroon wouldn't have lasted a week in Robben Island, never mind decades, and now she feels like declaring that she is Nelson Mandela.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 23 August 2025 17:17 (two months ago)
Nice big supportive feature on the front page of The Sun
― Mark G, Saturday, 23 August 2025 18:12 (two months ago)
The idea that it was Kieth who personally signed off on her conviction doesn't seem to be getting much scrutiny in the right-wing press. But yet I feel nothing about this.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 23 August 2025 18:22 (two months ago)
Who?
― a hoy hoy, Saturday, 23 August 2025 19:05 (two months ago)
The Tory leader told the Sunday Times she had been surprised at the amount of racism she had faced since being elected, having previously insisted that Britain was “the best place in the world to be black”.She told the paper: “There’s a certain cadre of people who clearly can’t cope with the fact that I won this and I’m doing it.“The level of personal attacks from anonymous people, it’s hysterical. Not even just from MPs. I actually don’t think it’s that many MPs. I think it’s two to three people out of 120. That’s nothing. But online as well. People used to talk about Trump derangement syndrome. I think there’s a Kemi derangement syndrome: ‘How could she possibly have done this?’.”She added that on social media, “there’s a lot of ethno-nationalism creeping up, lots of stuff about my race and my ethnicity and the tropes around, ‘well, she couldn’t possibly have done this all by herself’”.
She told the paper: “There’s a certain cadre of people who clearly can’t cope with the fact that I won this and I’m doing it.
“The level of personal attacks from anonymous people, it’s hysterical. Not even just from MPs. I actually don’t think it’s that many MPs. I think it’s two to three people out of 120. That’s nothing. But online as well. People used to talk about Trump derangement syndrome. I think there’s a Kemi derangement syndrome: ‘How could she possibly have done this?’.”
She added that on social media, “there’s a lot of ethno-nationalism creeping up, lots of stuff about my race and my ethnicity and the tropes around, ‘well, she couldn’t possibly have done this all by herself’”.
...
― sous-vide summer camp (seandalai), Sunday, 24 August 2025 17:15 (two months ago)
Luckily she can shrug this off so there's no need to worry about the UK's institutional racism
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 August 2025 17:25 (two months ago)
One day I'll be asked for my papers. Looking forward to it.
I genuinely cannot imagine a worse response. This is a moral catastrophe pic.twitter.com/HXEu1NywGB— Peter Mitchell (@_bezpilotnik) August 26, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 August 2025 06:54 (two months ago)
Hang on, "Nigel Farage" is protected under copyright control?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 27 August 2025 08:45 (two months ago)
"The Record also revealed she had liked social media posts by the far right Homeland Party"
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/glasgow-race-row-councillor-becomes-35806280
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 August 2025 09:55 (two months ago)
Insane to go through it. Landlords will add to rents without controls.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2025/aug/28/uk-landlords-could-face-tax-from-rents
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 August 2025 12:43 (two months ago)
Now factor in that for almost everybody claiming housing costs through Universal Credit or Housing Benefit the cap on the amount they can receive is already hundreds of pounds below the average rental cost
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 August 2025 14:17 (two months ago)
there needs to be such a social stigma put on landlords, like on a par with nonces and the worst criminals or even worse than that - Labour MPs (specifically the 44 landlord ones).
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 28 August 2025 14:51 (two months ago)
I really do doubt the sanity of people who want to cancel Corbyn because he won't give the required response when asked if he is an anti-Zionist. I think some of them might just be too terminally online and not necessarily terrible people and some of them are that kind of Chris Williamson adjacent krank-left that have always been unbearable. I'm not saying Corbyn is beyond criticism but perhaps just not make a party based on stupid fucking people with the loudest voices relitigating 10 year old internecine beefs, that isn't going to change anything.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 August 2025 07:38 (two months ago)
I mean throughout his long political career, when has Corbyn dithered or triangulated his position on Palestine? His capitulation to the ihra definition of antisemiticism seems bad in retrospect, but at the time I, as many others didn't think he had a choice there. It's called being a human, you make fucking mistakes.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 August 2025 07:47 (two months ago)
the last 2 years has been a transformative education for a lot of people on the state of Israel and how they operate within US/UK politics and co-opt corrupt and pliable UK/US politicians to help keep a genocidal apartheid state going. There are criticisms you can make about Israel now would have been shouted down as antisemitic during Corbyn's leadership of Labour. It wasn't easy for him and he probably could have been stronger, but we can all say that if we are being honest.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 August 2025 08:03 (two months ago)
What did Corbyn say? Normally I'd google but googling this gets a lot of answers and not all that straightforward to sift through
― anvil, Saturday, 30 August 2025 08:47 (two months ago)
i'm really struggling to sort this one out tbh
cult of Corbz has been a negative drag on left politics for a few years imo, but not to the extent that you wouldn't want him in the movement - man has charisma
most of the peeps that are getting super aggro about this are not like full blown SWP wankers so i mostly accept their reaction, hysterical as it may be
the point tho, THE MOST IMPORTANT, ONLY IMPORTANT POINT, is to create a party where it's irrelevant whether individual members of good faith want to argue the toss about forms of words, because the only way a new party is meaningful is if it's democratic to the point of eliminating cults of personality
this has been some real parody shit and i have a degree of sympathy for both sides but for fuck's sake kids we need to find ways to come together
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 August 2025 08:47 (two months ago)
incidentally i'm already at the stage where i think My Party is doomed to fail because there are too many perma-Trots who cannot and will not commit to radical democratic organisation
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 August 2025 08:51 (two months ago)
what difference it makes to people being systemically starved and murdered in a live genocide if Corbyn will declare himself an anti-Zionist to terminally online people is absolutely zero and I just wish they would do this a bit more quietly.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 August 2025 08:52 (two months ago)
"but not to the extent that you wouldn't want him in the movement - man has charisma"
he is a brand that has probably never existed for much of UK parliamentary history, an MP who has never been bought and never voted for any evil policies and he is largely respected as a conviction politician by right=wing fuckers. You do need people like him because they are very few.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 August 2025 08:57 (two months ago)
some people saying he has taken a Bernie turn on Palestine here, are being extremely hyperbolic and nonsensical
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 August 2025 08:59 (two months ago)
new party's not worth shit if it can't exist in a form that says "yeah we can disagree about nuance"
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 August 2025 08:59 (two months ago)
i see a bunch of crypto-SWP/Workers Party scumbags piling on tbh
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:01 (two months ago)
yes, like Mikey for example, as much as I love him. He is a right moaning twat! But I'm not getting angry with him because he is quite aimlessly raging against Corbyn on twitter every day. I'd happily join a party with hundreds of Mikeys!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:03 (two months ago)
xpnot saying Mikey is one of them just a crosspost!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:06 (two months ago)
yeah i am very fond of Mikey but i've thought about unfollowing him this week
debate is good tho, right?
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:07 (two months ago)
some of these people who are piling on are friendly with Chris Williamson, who for me is beyond the fucking pale.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:07 (two months ago)
and there is a lot of truth in what he gets radge about. the biggest prob to me is not so much the "you're not anti-Zionist enough" people but the Galloway-adjacent Strasserite cunts who think they can hop on the bandwagon with their fucking bigotry intact
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:09 (two months ago)
it's 2025, you understand intersectionality or you can get tae fuck
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:10 (two months ago)
yes, any Gallowayites of any stripe can absolutely gtf
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:10 (two months ago)
there was a left-wing youtuber who uploaded some good vids on the Palestine Action arrests and I thought this seems ok and it's not those fucking Novara grifters. And then when I checked some more vids he had Chris Williamson on as a guest and was like what the fuck is wrong with you people? I'm not a snob, but that guy is a toxic fucking riff raff, bigoted grifter and you call this shit a left-wing podcast?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:13 (two months ago)
These things gotta happen every five years or so, ten years. Helps to get rid of the bad blood
you're dead right, Williamson is an acid test for bell-ends who need avoiding
― baka mitai guy (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:14 (two months ago)
the danger with the "anti-semitic withhunt" narrative of the Corbyn era is that a shitload of people were falsely slurred as antisemites and it was a fucking disgrace, but there is always going to be statistically speaking, genuine antisemites amongst the accused as well. And they can use that narrative as cover now.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:25 (two months ago)
It's interesting (deliberately) not being in any of these online spaces (this thread, and some mates closer to the 'frontline', are my only real access points) - all I've had recently is a gentle email asking me for suggestions for names for the party. I'm stunned by how Corbyn seemed to irreparably break so many brains and how people seem to utterly refuse to take him with good faith.
Surely everyone can agree on the toxicity of Chris fucking Williamson?
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:28 (two months ago)
i think in the same way that Crombyn had too much naive belief in the good faith of Labour Right pigs there are a whole lot of not-personally-scumbags on the Left who aren't properly suspicious of Stalinist comrades
― I fresh like botti (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:32 (two months ago)
There was a very strong ‘hell yeah, this is what Corbyn should have been doing the whole time’ response to Sultana threatening to sue Oliver Kamm for suggesting she’s antisemitic but the tweet’s still up and she now has a choice between not suing and looking slightly ridiculous or suing and rolling the dice on blowing up her whole career, and the new party, with the very real possibility of losing a court case. Sometimes you’ve got to apply a degree of political nous even when you might be in the right.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:32 (two months ago)
tbh i don't see how a libel action wouldn't succeed but whether it's worth pursuing in the first place is a reasonable question
― I fresh like botti (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:35 (two months ago)
i would really like if they didn't go down this very online twitter politics route but i am not sure that is a realistic hope.
― LocalGarda, Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:44 (two months ago)
You can never guarantee how a libel case is going to turn out - it’s almost always an enormous risk unless there is a pretty clear error of fact (like Corbyn being a Czech spy).
― ShariVari, Saturday, 30 August 2025 09:49 (two months ago)
pic.twitter.com/TuYZwh3OYd— Gary Powndland (@powndland) August 30, 2025
― I fresh like botti (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 August 2025 10:00 (two months ago)
I think Oliver Kamm locked his tweets after she threatened legal action and people took that as a win?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 30 August 2025 10:07 (two months ago)
He unlocked them the next day and hasn’t deleted anything.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 30 August 2025 10:10 (two months ago)
xpost to nv i believe keir starmer believes that should be shown in every school
― LocalGarda, Saturday, 30 August 2025 10:10 (two months ago)
― LocalGarda, Saturday, 30 August 2025 bookmarkflaglink
The online twitter left is pretty small in numbers (there's definitely not 700k of them lol) As NV says, its how the party is set up in terms of democratic processes where the membership would come out as anti-zionist (for example) as one of its positions, and its for Corbyn to accept that or keep on just being a good, independent MP for his constituents outside of it.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 August 2025 10:19 (two months ago)
oh no it's a parody Stephen Graham post, apologies for already starting a thread about how much this new Stephen Graham series made me think and how absolutely fucking riveting the discourse around it is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 August 2025 10:21 (two months ago)
He is almost certainly not going to 'say the words' bcz of some of the voices in his constituency coming from the Zionist left, say, its not nakedly cynical triangulation but in the context of a prominent figure in this party where ppl are looking for leadership during a time of genocide it feels a tad like it, where an anti-racist statement isn't going to cut it.
Though in the end what Corbyn or Sultana believe actually shouldn't matter, because they are only one member of this party xp
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 August 2025 10:26 (two months ago)
the context of the Corbyn thing seems to be that he was at a Palestine event somewhere in London and someone pointed a phone in his direction and asked him if he considered himself an anti-Zionist. That he got into trouble previously for making a quip about Zionists lacking a sense of irony could be a mitigating factor for his guarded response. It's not like he's suddenly gone pro-apartheid or even Zionist here. I think anyone getting into a rage over this needs some kind of help.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 August 2025 11:55 (two months ago)
I would classify that as “lady, if you have to ask…”
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 30 August 2025 11:57 (two months ago)
i feel like there's plenty of reason to be concerned about your party, but concern that it will be insufficiently pro-palestine seems like wrecker nonsense. there are plenty of things that are frustrating about corbyn but people are acting like he's suddenly defending israel or something
a more serious concern would be the party's position on trans rights, given that at best it seems like it will be a very ugly internal fight, especially when someone like hussain who's heavily involved in the party is actively posting very transphobic stuff on social media. that's not a reason to doom about the party yet like some are but it also doesn't bode well, even if sultana is great
― ufo, Saturday, 30 August 2025 12:16 (two months ago)
There's a lot of two state vs end colonialism in this mix and tbh I do think forms of words matter, but there's a lot of idiot paranoia getting unleashed right now
― I fresh like botti (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 August 2025 12:16 (two months ago)
And yeah ufo you're bang it, my main concern is cunts who actively hate intersectional politics and should not be allowed within a light year of a decent left party
― I fresh like botti (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 August 2025 12:18 (two months ago)
Not worried about either Corbyn or Hussain if the party has an organised progressive faction in the majority.
'If..'
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 August 2025 13:05 (two months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/aug/30/coventry-city-council-signs-ai-deal-contract-palantir-technologies
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 August 2025 15:20 (two months ago)
And, as noted:
absolutely losing it at this photo pic.twitter.com/wZzZLjyein— Crowsa Luxemburg (@quendergeer) August 30, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 31 August 2025 00:20 (two months ago)
I'm guessing that's what it looked like in Mordor, minus the union jack
― 7/10, another solid effort from the willard grant conspiracy (Matt #2), Sunday, 31 August 2025 03:08 (two months ago)
vr set wearing guy in the kilt, seemingly stroking his genitals is Kieth's lawnmower man
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 31 August 2025 06:10 (two months ago)
Its the pic that tells you how disastrous and tragic this is going to be, but also hopefully it can be undone too. There is a goofiness about it...
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 31 August 2025 10:09 (two months ago)
I know elsewhere on here there’s a thriving discussion about how red haired people are the most oppressed in the UK or whatever, but do we have an ongoing conversation re the rampant flagshagging/fascist outbreaks?
― Marsee playground (gyac), Sunday, 31 August 2025 13:36 (two months ago)
Are there many such displays where you are?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 31 August 2025 13:51 (two months ago)
my local post office have a shelf of cheap stuff that rotates according to fashion - this week it was bootleg labubus and england flags, ugh
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 31 August 2025 13:53 (two months ago)
I was just thinking perhaps the flag shagging is some bald-white twitter phenomena that isn't coming to my neighbourhood, but then noticed a few flags up the road yesterday. And then while passing through the estate next to the park, they are fucking everywhere there. There was a guy who has a flagpole next to his house with a royal engineers flag, well he has took that down and put a union flag and an england flag, double flag-fucker.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 31 August 2025 14:21 (two months ago)
Driving up the M1 yesterday saw a handful of St. George’s crosses on the bridges, mainly in South Yorkshire. Goes without saying they looked really pathetic, especially those which hadn’t been tied properly.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 31 August 2025 14:24 (two months ago)
I was passing thru Horley near Gatwick a couple of days ago and there was a flag on every lamppost down the main road for a couple of miles. Quite a serious operation to get that many up over that range. Gross AF.
― nashwan, Sunday, 31 August 2025 14:26 (two months ago)
I saw some video on twitter of a "beep your horn if you hate Keir Starmer" banner hanging from a motorway bridge, dead giveaway that they are neo-fascist haters because they don't use Kieth.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 31 August 2025 14:28 (two months ago)
but still it is amusing that Kieth's twitter account is posting about deporting foreigners every day and these people still fucking detest him.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 31 August 2025 14:30 (two months ago)
Sorry, what a strange question? It’s all over the UK.
― Marsee playground (gyac), Sunday, 31 August 2025 14:37 (two months ago)
There are no more than usual in my area.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 31 August 2025 14:39 (two months ago)
Thanks, always appreciate the zone 1 perspective. Nothing to worry about!
― Marsee playground (gyac), Sunday, 31 August 2025 14:42 (two months ago)
In Scotland?
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Sunday, 31 August 2025 14:47 (two months ago)
Let's just agree we all hate it :]
― nashwan, Sunday, 31 August 2025 14:48 (two months ago)
And let's agree as an England football supporter I am obviously suffering the most here.
― nashwan, Sunday, 31 August 2025 14:49 (two months ago)
xp see that’s my fault for automatically correcting to the UK in my head rather than England which is my default in this kind of conversation
― Marsee playground (gyac), Sunday, 31 August 2025 14:49 (two months ago)
xp better half was telling me there was a house near us that had some flags up in the wake of the lionesses victory and that as soon as this outbreak happened they took them down fast. Saw a post on bluesky earlier about a Chinese restaurant in York that had been vandalised by these cunts. Ongoing attacks on refugee hotels, press heaping petrol on the whole thing, it’s very fucking scary out there.
― Marsee playground (gyac), Sunday, 31 August 2025 14:52 (two months ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GzmlIDmWkAAKzTF?format=jpg&name=900x900
just some very patriotic people harmlessly expressing some national pride, no actually just scum of the earth.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 31 August 2025 15:00 (two months ago)
The Zone 1 perspective includes a dear neighbour who was minding her own business on the bus only to be spat upon and told to ‘go home’ on Islamophobia Awareness Day, and me chewing out various neighbours for being xenophobic bigots because I am fucking done with their bullshit (I *am* home, you ignorant motherfuckers). They did not need to hang additional flags to make their views known or to say cruel things out loud; my neighbour says she can tell a racist by the way they look at someone dressed like her, and she is more worried about her interactions with others than she might’ve been only a couple of years ago.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 31 August 2025 15:00 (two months ago)
There's a hotel near the Barbican that has seen some protests and counter-protest but the former seems to have petered out already at least.
― nashwan, Sunday, 31 August 2025 15:05 (two months ago)
see that’s my fault for automatically correcting to the UK in my head rather than England which is my default in this kind of conversation
tbf there were quite a lot of Union flags and possibly the occasional St. George's flag at Ibrox Park earlier today.
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Sunday, 31 August 2025 15:13 (two months ago)
They did not need to hang additional flags to make their views known or to say cruel things out loud
The fact that these people are doing so is signalling to others how openly accepted their views are. That’s entirely the point. It’s openly race baiting shit. That they are organising to violently attack refugees while being openly encouraged by the press and certain politicians is too. It is about intimidating people, it’s about saying “you don’t belong and you have to see this in the area you’re from and live in”.
― Marsee playground (gyac), Sunday, 31 August 2025 15:16 (two months ago)
It should be self-evident to these arseholes that anything calling itself a ‘hotel’ that is also housing migrants is probably a flophouse they’d never in a million years book for themselves. I’ll note they never ask how much the privately owned business is charging the government per head (including the margins on the shitty food they provide that allows said government to give each asylum seeker £9.95/week instead of £49.18).
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 31 August 2025 15:18 (two months ago)
the hotel in Epping was contesting the local council ban, i notice. guaranteed 100% occupancy...
― koogs, Sunday, 31 August 2025 15:29 (two months ago)
Class politics & solidarity unites across race, religion, gender & other differences that set us apart & have the potential to build a mass movement. Identity politics do nothing but tear apart and cause division.Unite around similarities stop pulling apart over differences.— Adnan Hussain MP (@AdnanHussainMP) August 31, 2025
this dunce using "identity politics" as a pejorative term to justify his transphobia is not what you want to see in a new progressive left-wing party.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 31 August 2025 15:42 (two months ago)
omg he's a landlord as well as a transphobe, just a total dickhead
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 31 August 2025 16:05 (two months ago)
The way the government is sitting on its hands while ethnic communities are terrorised is a new low from a party that's nothing but lows
After last year's riots i spoke to women who were too scared to leave their homes for weeks. They told me about that feeling when they did pass neighbours in the street, always uncertain when somebody would suddenly come out with some hateful comment
Adnan Hussain is a bell-end but it's good that these people are telling us who they are right now, should make it easier to deal with them when the new party actually has rules
― I fresh like botti (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 August 2025 16:10 (two months ago)
with Starmer giving succour to bigots, one ill considered racist bullshit McSweeney soundbite at a time, the cowardly piece of shit probably causes less social harm when he doesn't say anything.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 31 August 2025 16:16 (two months ago)
A man and a woman have been arrested on suspicion of racially aggravated assault after a video of a confrontation in a Yorkshire park circulated online.The video, seen by the BBC, shows a man and a woman making racial comments towards a woman and child as they walk through Manor Heath Park in Halifax on Thursday.A man is seen throwing water at the woman and appears to ask her if she arrived in the UK by crossing the English Channel in a boat.West Yorkshire Police said the suspects were arrested on Saturday and remain in custody as inquiries continue.In the video, the woman told the man she is a health worker and has lived in the UK for 15 years.
The video, seen by the BBC, shows a man and a woman making racial comments towards a woman and child as they walk through Manor Heath Park in Halifax on Thursday.
A man is seen throwing water at the woman and appears to ask her if she arrived in the UK by crossing the English Channel in a boat.
West Yorkshire Police said the suspects were arrested on Saturday and remain in custody as inquiries continue.
In the video, the woman told the man she is a health worker and has lived in the UK for 15 years.
this is the kind of shit that's happening
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 31 August 2025 17:05 (two months ago)
Keir Starmer tells @MattChorley on 5Live that he has a St George's Cross flag in his flat. "I'm a supporter of flags," he says.— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) September 1, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 September 2025 14:15 (two months ago)
The stuff we talked about yesterday? Its just a joke to them.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 September 2025 14:19 (two months ago)
He’s just appointed Tim Allan, founder of Portland Communications and recent board member of evil terf group Sex Matters. 😬😬😬
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 1 September 2025 14:29 (two months ago)
This happened on Sky News this morning and all some robotic cunt of a government minister had to say was the usual crap about "legitimate concerns"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMoMk7GaIlE
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Monday, 1 September 2025 14:32 (two months ago)
They're shitting themselves over being seen to criticize pissed up racist morons.
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Monday, 1 September 2025 14:33 (two months ago)
because the Labour front bench/Labour right are racist morons.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 1 September 2025 14:51 (two months ago)
"I'm a supporter of flags" said the very thoughtful and completely serious PM in response to a nationwide increase in racially motivated attacks and organised pogroms.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 1 September 2025 14:55 (two months ago)
and not shitting themselves over the ongoing trauma and violence the victims of this are experiencing
for some reason
― I fresh like botti (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 September 2025 15:02 (two months ago)
i didn’t think my opinion of starmer could get any lower
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 1 September 2025 17:46 (two months ago)
this is a big fucking problem. mobs are terrorizing people
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 1 September 2025 17:49 (two months ago)
"I always sit in front of a Union Jack"
this simpering moron is much more useless, and dangerous really, than Liz Truss ever was.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 1 September 2025 18:00 (two months ago)
Can I just shock you? I'm a supporter of flags https://t.co/zakA4Y4PvY pic.twitter.com/oDeQzZ7Ioc— Crowsa Luxemburg (@quendergeer) September 1, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 1 September 2025 20:32 (two months ago)
it's like a p large amount of people have decided that 2025 is the year where its not only okay but encouraged to be openly racist. hostile environment writ large. meanwhile the govt just shrugs and ignores/enables it as long as people not property gets damaged.
― oscar bravo, Monday, 1 September 2025 20:50 (two months ago)
Had just appeared here to ponder about how wearying I was finding the flag stuff and the associated ease with which people are being racist and vile. Had been thinking about Labour's role in this - including the absence of hope (of anything good from Labour) and Labour's own ridiculousness in keeping "small boats" as the thing to be focusing on (If you hate refugees, you're not going to be convinced by Labour, are you?) Was hoping for something more compassionate and grown-up from them. Hadn't seen Starmer's "I'm encouraging of flags" and, fuck, it's wearying and scary.
― djh, Monday, 1 September 2025 21:10 (two months ago)
Glad the flag thing turned out not to be a problem
― Marsee playground (gyac), Monday, 1 September 2025 21:59 (two months ago)
He could have said "Rock on, Tommy!" That would have earned a few votes
― Mark G, Monday, 1 September 2025 22:17 (two months ago)
BREAKING: @ZackPolanski wins leadership of the Green party of England and Wales by 20,411 votes to Adrian Ramsay and Ellie Chowns's 3,705.— Rivkah Brown (@rivkahbrown) September 2, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 10:22 (two months ago)
Polanski pissed it, not like there was any competition from those dim melts
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 10:23 (two months ago)
Guardian being lame as usual:
"And the first task for Polanski is to bring the party with him."
He won by a massive majority so he doesn't need to do anything like that.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 10:28 (two months ago)
Only 25k voting members? That seems low!
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 10:32 (two months ago)
a lot of the membership are still on hols in the Maldives
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 10:35 (two months ago)
Lol that's even bigger a blow-out than I thought it'd be. Enormous mandate, full steam ahead
― imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 10:38 (two months ago)
Only 37.5 per cent of eligible members bothered to vote.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 10:46 (two months ago)
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 10:48 (two months ago)
for context there were less than 10k voters in the previous leadership elections (2021)
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 12:07 (two months ago)
Some strong opening verbals from our guy
― imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 14:16 (two months ago)
yeah i think he's done well there, and if nothing else, it's good to have another voice in the political landscape that's loudly challenging the current slide to the right
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 14:30 (two months ago)
Meet Zack Polanski. This is the person who the Greens just elected as their new leader.https://t.co/oMIC3Zwgch pic.twitter.com/xWk0ONQi3k— Labour Press (@labourpress) September 2, 2025
pisspoor attack tweet from Labour because it just highlights that Zack has a more colourful backstory than Starmer, the grey, managerial class, flag-fucking robot who absolutely everybody despises. It would be more damaging if they used some proper dirt on Zack, like erm.... he used to be a Lib-Dem ..lol
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 15:49 (two months ago)
Streeting defending Linehan and demanding that police focus on 'keeping us safe' rather than hate speech - good to know his definition of 'us' doesn't include trans people
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/03/police-focus-streets-not-tweets-wes-streeting-graham-linehan-arrest
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 11:50 (two months ago)
There's some Rayner shenanigans afoot too
― imago, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 11:52 (two months ago)
the Rayner stuff is just ordinary Labour-in-govt corruption and greed, but apparently it's only bad because she used to be a left-wing firebrand. I think I must have missed that period of her career or more likely it just never fucking actually happened but in the minds of the likes of Andrew Neil, who was frothing at the mouth over it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 12:00 (two months ago)
They arrested ppl in the hundreds for holding up anti genocide signs but nazis attacking hotels raise some good points and deranged celebs telling their followers to commit hate crimes should be left alone, got it
― GY!BP (wins), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 12:02 (two months ago)
Reform will basically just be continuity labour when they get in
i'm thinking we can push Reform left once they get in
― glug (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 12:20 (two months ago)
https://bsky.app/profile/britishelectionstudy.com/post/3lxwfk62fvk2l
voting intention graph
trying to hotlink the image... this may not work.https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:hb7mddt655ix36jimtqzmypg/bafkreibfpozsmcl4xspiyldt3oewxyh37ol36acmdfcbxtw7452dilbope@jpeg
― koogs, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 12:39 (two months ago)
i'm voting NK/DV
― koogs, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 12:41 (two months ago)
i'm voting NKVD
― glug (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 12:42 (two months ago)
next GE there will likely be 3 parties with nationalised water on their manifesto, all of them taking a lot of seats from Labour, who in the meantime will do nothing towards nationalising water and waste time verbally placating the type of transphobes and flag-fuckers, who are likely never going to vote for them anyway. I read that polling suggests they are losing most of their 2024 voters to CorbzSultana Party, Greens and LibDems (lol) rather than to the Farage party. They are not very good at this politics game, too hollowed out by corporate interests and ideologically right-wing to save their party from electoral oblivion.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 12:48 (two months ago)
Very colourful graph but a bit hard to work at first glance, however suggests most Labour votes are going to the NKVD follow by... the Lib Dems??!!?
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 12:54 (two months ago)
... which I could have found out simply by clicking the link!
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 12:55 (two months ago)
Pollsters are all unanimous that Labour are not losing significant voters to Reform, yet the wee Irish fellow in Starmer's office must be getting his own data.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 12:58 (two months ago)
Green Party is done.
BREAKING: Newly elected leader of the Green Party @ZackPolanski will be launching a new podcast called 'Bold Politics'. His first guest is Novara Media's @AyoCaesar - the episode drops today. pic.twitter.com/BTMdtxHRf8— Turn Left Media (@TurnLeftMediaUK) September 3, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 September 2025 10:52 (two months ago)
In other news this would be good. Shame Lab love the market.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/sep/04/electricity-users-save-5bn-a-year-gas-fired-stations-removed-from-market
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 September 2025 11:06 (two months ago)
A podcast is a bit cringe but people listen to podcasts idk
Sarkar is also pretty cringe these days but you gotta start somewhere right
― imago, Thursday, 4 September 2025 11:11 (two months ago)
it doesn't matter how cringe you are. Garys Ecconomics is a total knobhead and has one and a half million subscribers. If politicians can do better than that then legacy media becomes almost irrelevant.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 September 2025 11:23 (two months ago)
well that's it yeah
― imago, Thursday, 4 September 2025 11:31 (two months ago)
that's why I think Labour were showing themselves up for how fucking clueless they are with their attack on Polanski with the old Daily Star headline. Most real people will find the hypnotising tits stuff amusing and it makes him less of a wanker than say some PLP robot who dropped straight into a cushy think tank job straight from uni before getting promoted to some junior cabinet position. They don't even realise it would be much more damaging if it turned out he was a landlord or had links to black rock or was funded by corporate interests. Like almost 80%+ of their MPs.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 September 2025 11:46 (two months ago)
Even good optics guys are still optics guys but this is what he set himself out as. I'm not joining the fanclub but he still seems a net positive to me right now
― glug (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:15 (two months ago)
What are the substantial differences between the Greens and Jeremism?
Like in terms of the policies of the two parties.
Just not sure it makes a huge deal of sense for both to exist or confident in their ability to cooperate, but I honestly don't know.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:27 (two months ago)
at the moment the Greens under Polanski are offering clarity on trans rights while Corbyn has been doing Your Party events on a platform with a transphobic landlord
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:35 (two months ago)
We would have to wait and see how a bunch of things turn out. Your Party doesn't exist yet and it doesn't have policies, Polanski doesn't dictate the Greens' policies afaik. I'm sure there's plenty of potential YP members amenable to some kind of electoral pact but there's a lot needs to happen before any of that is meaningful
― glug (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:38 (two months ago)
Sidelining Corbs and his more horrible allies to some kind of avuncular figurehead status feels like one of YP's first important challenges
― glug (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:39 (two months ago)
There are some very Tory Greens just as there will be some very Workers Party-esque YPers
― glug (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:40 (two months ago)
Both need to be marginalised i meant to add
― glug (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:41 (two months ago)
Polanski is going to face a lot of tests in the near future and be made to clarify his position on a lot of issues, we'll know a lot more then. I'm optimistic, but people are going to be setting him all sorts of traps
― imago, Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:41 (two months ago)
On a practical level, if Sultanna and Corbyn had just said "right, we're joining the greens" that would have been viewed as a hostile takeover and I think chances are better that the two parties can collaborate than that this scenario would not have lead to endless infighting.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:45 (two months ago)
It's like the Liberals and the nascent SDP all over again. Ah, the circle of life
― glug (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:47 (two months ago)
Yeah of course a lot still unknown. I guess just from a voter's point of view it's hard to know who to support, at what seems a critically important time. It isn't ideal that there are two parties and one continues to be vaguely defined.
Also no idea what my choice will be in my constituency.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:50 (two months ago)
I guess the election is a long way off still (probably)
Your Party doesn't even have a name ofc. It will need to be member led to even bother.
I may may turn up to one of its local events in the middle of the month, but I've not bothered to sign up yet.
But say it does get off the ground and we get anti-capital, pro - trans, (anything resembling pro-humanity lol, the bar is low rn) then it will surely have more members than The Greens, which could mean better things on the ground xps
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:51 (two months ago)
Less podcasts, for a start (sorry I am allergic to it)
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:53 (two months ago)
I have seen some videos of well attended local Your Party events. It looks impressive in the kind of inclusive grass roots way I would like it to be. Early days.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:56 (two months ago)
I still haven't committed to anything, so very tired.
But I can't imagine the new party actively competes with the Greens at a GE. Something has to be hammered out. This is gonna be the depressing and fun part.
― glug (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:58 (two months ago)
Ultimately the differences in my head is that the Greens are solely for elections. A socialist party is tied to progressive grassroots movements, takes part in elections but its strategy isn't tied to these, so fine whatever with making pacts for the local elections next year to inflict damage on Lab, but its a shrug.
In terms of elections we will have 3.5 years more of climate change and Trump either dead or their party badly beaten or something worse happening in America which will have an effect here, so Reform will probably need to follow a different model by that time.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 September 2025 13:14 (two months ago)
Plenty of time for Reform's high tide to recede for all sorts of reasons but as a government employee it's giving me very gentle anxiety
I think the point about movement vs electoral party is well made xyzz
― glug (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 September 2025 13:18 (two months ago)
Plenty of time for Farage hitching his wagon so obviously to Trump to blow up in Reform's faces too.
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 September 2025 13:22 (two months ago)
I have been reassuring people on both sides of the Atlantic that the current president’s demise will critically wound Reform.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 4 September 2025 13:46 (two months ago)
‘reactionary centrism: the right must be understood, but never blamed’
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/70966/what-is-a-reactionary-centrist-does-uk-have-them
― Etherwave, Friday, 5 September 2025 06:27 (two months ago)
I have seen UK people declaring themselves "radical centrists" before in a non-ironic manner, as if that term might actually make any sense or even be something admirable.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 06:35 (two months ago)
i've never seen that but it's strange as with some centrists, i think the idea that they are taking an extreme position and not a sensible opposition to extremes is a good one to try to establish or foist on them. like one of the most psychotically 'follow the data' people i know, mostly now just from a whatsapp group of friends, considers themselves a centrist and essentially cherry picks data or numbers to argue against anything which challenges the status quo. they are a crypto multi-millionaire, lol, but of course this data point is not factored in.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 5 September 2025 06:42 (two months ago)
in the last 10 years of UK politics the racist-thug understanders amongst the political and media class are what I call "legitimate concernists" or just fucking arseholes. Couldn't read that link because it's demanding my email!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 06:43 (two months ago)
I think Trump is potentially hurting Reform in the present and in short term future but not in the longer term. Its difficult to split out, with Trump being both cause and symptom, but I don't think Trumps eventual demise will hurt Reform
Trump is so singular its hard the way things would have developed without his existence, but the post-war period was ending anyway and Trumpism was going to come in some form regardless, Europe is just a decade or so behind
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 07:05 (two months ago)
Feel like Europe has been ahead of Trump via the likes of Orban. Poland has followed that path too -- though that government fell -- but its still a force in Polish politics.
I think the polling will change due to Trump - it has done so in Canada, Australia to dramatic electoral effect, and is doing so in Brazil. Its a different situation here as Lab are in power and are doing everythinf they can to help Reform, but I can see a scenario of a hung parliament too.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 September 2025 07:29 (two months ago)
I think in the present and short-term Trump will have a dampening effect on the the far rights polling numbers, but in the mid-longer term much less so. As far as Europe goes at least. I don't think Canada, Australia, or Brazil are in the same boat as Europe though
Orban has been something of an outlier in Europe, and its also possible he loses power eventually as its not that clear he's fully consolidate power in such a way as to preclude his removal (despite his longevity)
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 07:34 (two months ago)
I think a lot will depend on how badly Trump is perceived as impacting the US economy over the next couple of years and how closely Reform is tied to the idea of ‘Trumpian economics’ or whether they are basically trusted to run as a continuity government tinkering at the margins.
― ShariVari, Friday, 5 September 2025 08:07 (two months ago)
Damn, the whole quote didn't copy. 'the right must be understood but never blamed; the left must be blamed but never understood'
you can put in goa✧✧✧@fuck✧✧✧.c✧✧ for your email and it lets you read the piece
thought it was interesting because it explicitly draws the parallels to Trump's rise
― Etherwave, Friday, 5 September 2025 08:10 (two months ago)
go away at fuckoff dot com
"I don't think Canada, Australia, or Brazil are in the same boat as Europe though"
Canada and Australia kinda are really. They are 'developed economies' with similarly fucked dynamics around a weak centre left and a right that looked to Trump.
Trumpian economics is already having a pretty bad effect here. If Reform are seen to be following that in a bad recession in three years it may not go down well.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 September 2025 08:18 (two months ago)
This is a big question! It's not that clear how much the economy matters currently, and not just in the traditional sense of peoples preference to vote against their economic interests. I think it has mattered more at points in the past where different parties fought on the same terrain, and made the economy a key part of that terrain, but I don't think the games changed and changing
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 08:23 (two months ago)
oops, I mean I do think the games changed and changing
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 08:25 (two months ago)
I think the thing the Trumpian right does is a fundamental break from post-war politics in that it doesn't tell voters what it will do for them, it tells voters what they will do for it. There isn't a promise of a better future, there isn't a promise of an improved economy. It doesn't say what it will provide, it says what it will take. The people who vote for it aren't voting for it in the belief or expectation of a better economy
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 08:30 (two months ago)
Ok, that's wrong in that it does tell voters what it will do, but besides that does it get votes? In the US that is true for a figure like Trump, but people around the world are looking at that and, from the Canadian and Australian elections, not going there..
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 September 2025 08:35 (two months ago)
I definitely agree with that in the short term, for sure. But the general direction of travel is heading towards a form of Trumpism in Europe I think (regardless of Trump or the US), though I think its still another 5+ years away
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 08:41 (two months ago)
And developments aren't in a straight line, and they're not inevitable either! but neither the left or the centre is equipped
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 08:43 (two months ago)
Maybe, I think climate change is the thing that will either accelerates or breaks this one way march.
Because it breaks a lot of things as they are rn there's no telling how its going to go xp
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 September 2025 08:48 (two months ago)
Europe def had a ressurgent far right before Trump (if anything the US was the one behind); his fall is not going to stop it, but I can see it handicapping parties who've tied their fortunes to him excessively.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 5 September 2025 08:50 (two months ago)
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 09:30 (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
This falls apart as soon as you see a red hat that says MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN surely
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 5 September 2025 08:53 (two months ago)
It doesn't necessarily need to wear the red hat, it doesn't even necessarily need to be overtly tied in to MAGA at all, it can come in its own variants. It isn't an extension of the US, its homegrown
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 08:57 (two months ago)
Starmer's completely embarrassing public obsequiousness to Trump might be a key reason he's losing so many 2024 voters to the LibDems. Even Farage has to be careful not to upset his own base with his close Trump connection. Starmer is such a politically vacuous Atlanticist he'd suck off any US prez, even if they had gonorrhoea and it meant the end of his political career.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 08:59 (two months ago)
It may not directly matter to every individual voter but if the establishment press thinks Farage is going to crash the markets or is at least semi-serious about spending commitments, there is likely to be a major shift in how they’re covered.
― ShariVari, Friday, 5 September 2025 09:01 (two months ago)
Reckon Farage will give the right level of assurances on that score.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 September 2025 09:03 (two months ago)
I wonder about this, because this seems correct. And yet this didn't happen in the US, or at least not to a degree where its mattered. And it didn't really move the needle much on Brexit either. I don't know that this is something that can be relied on (leaving aside that crashed markets have winners as well as losers)
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 09:06 (two months ago)
Worked out great for Liz Truss and the Tories.
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Friday, 5 September 2025 09:08 (two months ago)
I don't think Truss really had the capital, hand was overplayed
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 09:11 (two months ago)
Which is to say, I think to pull off populism you have to generate some level of popularity first, its not really something you can bypass!
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 09:18 (two months ago)
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 bookmarkflaglink
Ok, but Trump and MAGA have promised things they are carrying out. Tariffs and end of globalization as a return of even more manufacturing. And ofc more racism and deportations.
We can see the right operating in several European countries, but that doesn't feel like a huge break with politics as usual but a continuation in an austerity/economically stagnant environment, post '08 crash.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 September 2025 09:22 (two months ago)
I think there may be some buyers’ remorse on the part of people who went easy on Trump in 2024 assuming he’d still default to deferring to experts, etc, as per most of the first term, rather than throw everything up in the air. The U.K. is arguably a lot more exposed to the impact of instability too. I think if the Telegraph, Sun and Mail all turned on Farage, started digging up secrets, reporting on his friends and allies, investigating every two-bit crank in Reform, as per Corbyn, that would probably shift the needle a bit. The challenge is that you need someone else to take advantage of that and it seems unlikely to be Labour under Starmer or the Tories under Badenoch.
― ShariVari, Friday, 5 September 2025 09:23 (two months ago)
Some people will pay any price just to be able to use racial slurs in public tbf
― glug (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 September 2025 09:24 (two months ago)
We can see the right operating in several European countries, but that doesn't feel like a huge break with politics as usual but a continuation in an austerity/economically stagnant environment,
This is because we haven't had the break in Europe yet
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 09:24 (two months ago)
Haven’t listened and don’t plan to but Truss was on Odd Lots last week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyQOEJ38kW8
I do think there is a bit of a risk of a Truss redemption arc where she’s perceived as doing too much too quickly but fundamentally right about the U.K. needing enormous, unpopular free-market reforms. idk whether Farage would be able to balance that promise with the populist spending bit but I suspect not.
― ShariVari, Friday, 5 September 2025 09:27 (two months ago)
I've always assumed the populist spending bit is a straight lie, to be dropped on election
― glug (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 September 2025 09:29 (two months ago)
I think there may be some buyers’ remorse on the part of people who went easy on Trump in 2024 assuming he’d still default to deferring to experts, etc, as per most of the first term, rather than throw everything up in the air. The U.K. is arguably a lot more exposed to the impact of instability too.
I agree with all this, it's why I don't think anything is an inevitability, but once the process is in motion it becomes difficult to reverse. And there are winners from instability as well, especially if the goal is consolidation of power and wealth, that is better served by instability. The US economy is being damaged overall, but there are undoubted winners from the changes, whether intentional or otherwise
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 09:35 (two months ago)
This is a bit vague to me.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 September 2025 09:38 (two months ago)
And there are winners from instability as well, especially if the goal is consolidation of power and wealth, that is better served by instability. The US economy is being damaged overall, but there are undoubted winners from the changes, whether intentional or otherwise
I think this is absolutely true but much riskier in the U.K. than the US. Pretty much the main draw of the U.K. is the idea that nothing much ever happens and there are major constraints on government power (central bank, independent judiciary, etc). The government is the servant of a system that mostly runs, predictably, on its own. Obvs Brexit was a major blow to that but it’s hanging on.
― ShariVari, Friday, 5 September 2025 10:01 (two months ago)
I think that ultimately comes down to the will of the people wanting to steal the bike vs the will of the people wanting to make sure the bike doesn't get stolen.
I agree the way power is distributed in parliamentary systems makes it less vulnerable than a system like the US has, but that isn't the same thing as being invulnerable.
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 10:28 (two months ago)
Anyway, Angela Rayner resigns. She'll definitely be back though.
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Friday, 5 September 2025 11:23 (two months ago)
she voted for the PIP cuts so basically, fuck her and may her many houses all burn down
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 11:25 (two months ago)
she brought her disabled son into this tangled web of bullshit, to perhaps garner some undeserved sympathy. But yeah she didn't care a fuck about voting to cut the lifeline from hundred of thousands of disabled people. Housing minister underpays stamp on her house, should have been gone days ago without any enquiry.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 11:31 (two months ago)
People trying to cry classism here only really understand class politics in terms of regional accents.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 11:32 (two months ago)
She was still bookies’ favourite to be next Labour leader yesterday. Hard not to suspect the hand of Streeting behind some of this.
― ShariVari, Friday, 5 September 2025 11:37 (two months ago)
I'm trying work out the remains of the Labour membership, what kind of political oddballs they are etc.. and why they'd think Rayner would be an improvement on Starmer, lol, some fucking strange people.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 11:43 (two months ago)
I think a lot of them are at the stage of thinking that anyone would be an improvement and Rayner is slightly more adept at appearing to be human.
Stick £10 on Bridget Phillipson imo.
― ShariVari, Friday, 5 September 2025 11:47 (two months ago)
Will be interesting to see if the Deputy Leadership election turns into the coronation of an ‘anyone but Wes’ candidate.
― ShariVari, Friday, 5 September 2025 11:49 (two months ago)
replacing Starmer with an actual, real, fully working robot automaton . Yeah, that sounds about right.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 11:49 (two months ago)
Oh God no, she is one of the absolute worst.
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Friday, 5 September 2025 11:51 (two months ago)
ha fuck they need to have an election for deputy leader don't they? going to be a shitshow of course
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 September 2025 11:53 (two months ago)
Reeves and Cooper are non-starters, imo. Burnham and Khan aren’t in Parliament. Beyond that you’ve got Lammy, Darren Jones and the daughter of Baroness Rebuck in the mix.
In a straight shootout between the two semi-plausible candidates with regional accents, I think Phillipson beats Nandy every time. There’s just enough distance between her and Starmer to make it viable.
I have been wrong before, though.
― ShariVari, Friday, 5 September 2025 12:00 (two months ago)
You're probably right but she is terrible, she's even more robotic and uncharismatic than Starmer.
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Friday, 5 September 2025 12:03 (two months ago)
Do you mean Georgia Gould?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 5 September 2025 12:07 (two months ago)
See, this is why it was worth staying & fighting. Maybe the soft left will manage to get Anneliese Dodds on the ballot— Edmund Griffiths (@EdmundGriffiths) September 5, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 September 2025 12:36 (two months ago)
A story has been published today containing evidence that Lee Anderson was the one leaking private details of my terminally ill dog, and his death, in order to smear my name in the media.I told one person in Parliament about Cromwell’s death. Lee Anderson. Why? Because I…— Rupert Lowe MP (@RupertLowe10) September 5, 2025
a bit of a shaggy dog story here, too long didn't retriever
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 12:55 (two months ago)
Wagatha Christie redux
― glug (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 September 2025 13:01 (two months ago)
"Cromwell" sad lol
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 5 September 2025 13:04 (two months ago)
look he has a lot of dogs, all the other historical genocidaires were already taken!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 13:10 (two months ago)
be real he probably named him after the tank
― glug (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 September 2025 13:15 (two months ago)
"I confided in Lee Anderson" is not an admission likely to elicit sympathy
― glug (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 September 2025 13:16 (two months ago)
https://64.media.tumblr.com/2545aaf78119e5c9b5c84de13bfb5d28/f8243ec46a550da0-fe/s540x810/f33a136c0e7b96e825c6f88a4c8fdbbc226d31e9.gif
― mark s, Friday, 5 September 2025 13:17 (two months ago)
I thought it was Rebekah Vardy
― anvil, Friday, 5 September 2025 13:23 (two months ago)
I believe it was also Lee Anderson who leaked to the press that Ken Dodd's dad's dog's dead.
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Friday, 5 September 2025 13:38 (two months ago)
You don't understand, Nigel Farage Only Talks About It But Labour Are Stopping The Small Boats is the name of my dead dog.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 5 September 2025 13:41 (two months ago)
that hilarious/bizarro Mercer post from years back: "did you call my wife a prostitute" . Everything Rupert Lowe posts seems to be in that kind of register. I figure Farage dumped him not just because he's unabashedly a full blown fascist and incapable of presenting as anything else, but also because he's just fucking weird!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 13:59 (two months ago)
So, Lammy it is, then.
― Mark G, Friday, 5 September 2025 15:03 (two months ago)
oh to hell with the membership, no more voting .. lol
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 15:11 (two months ago)
oh Lammy for deputy PM not Deputy leader ... anyways ...let's impose a complete cunt on party who everyone hates... just slightly less than Starmer
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 15:13 (two months ago)
Deputy Leader is the elected position not Deputy PM
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/terrytoons/images/5/57/Deputy_dawg.png/revision/latest?cb=20231104220535
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Friday, 5 September 2025 15:22 (two months ago)
Any more deputy posts to fill?
https://cartoonresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/deputy-dawg.jpg
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Friday, 5 September 2025 15:23 (two months ago)
This is what we're also up againstIn a bizarre moment during what has been an increasingly dramatic day in politics, the mayor of Greater Lincolnshire Andrea Jenkyns performed a self-written number seemingly titled ‘Insomniac’ at the Reform conference.
― nashwan, Friday, 5 September 2025 16:08 (two months ago)
Nadine Dorries, the useless fuckwit who drafted most of the disastrous online safety bill joins Reform. Reform, who vehemently oppose the online safety bill and will be making the repeal of it one their key policies. Great politic manoeuvring by Starmer Labour to somehow come out of this worse than Nadine Dorries.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 16:11 (two months ago)
Pat McFadden replaces Kendall at DWP *shudders*
Just when you think everything about this govt is already configured at *the fucking worst* setting
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 16:59 (two months ago)
pretty tough level of evil to try and outmatch
― glug (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 September 2025 17:12 (two months ago)
If anyone can pull it off...
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Friday, 5 September 2025 17:14 (two months ago)
he's Irish diaspora, so will have preternatural levels of evil cuntishness in him
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 17:16 (two months ago)
So Mahmood is home secretary. Anti trans, anti gay, anti-Corbyn plotter, once demonstrated for Palestinian freedom but I’m sure she’ll renounce that sharpish
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 5 September 2025 20:06 (two months ago)
another great victory for representation etc...
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 September 2025 20:16 (two months ago)
I admit I am quite surprised at just how bad starmer and co are at governing the country. like I'm opposed to most of the stuff they stand for and was ready to hate them for it but didn't bank on how inept they all are.
― oscar bravo, Friday, 5 September 2025 20:22 (two months ago)
Tetchy interview by Farage on Sky News shows how the UK media has allowed this guy to get away with never really being pressurized in interviews for pretty much his entire career.
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Saturday, 6 September 2025 16:07 (two months ago)
he's wanting to abolish human rights, tear down all judiciary powers. Yeah, lads you might need to be a little concerned about this even if you approve of his neo-fascist immigration policies.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 September 2025 16:13 (two months ago)
i liked the people on the news from rayner's constituency saying that they were going to vote Reform next time round as they were so fed up with all the corruption and incompetency
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Saturday, 6 September 2025 16:19 (two months ago)
pretty sure all those goose-stepping cunts cheering Lucy Connolly today aren't really that concerned about legal impropriety
― glug (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 September 2025 16:50 (two months ago)
I can understand how low engagement voters can barely tell the fucking difference between a corrupt, lying, right-wing media franchise like the Farage project and most Labour government ministers. That's all on Kieth in this era, he's opened the door to neo-fascism, by somehow setting up a regime even more loathsome and dishonest than even they would have had ambitions to be, previously.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 September 2025 17:36 (two months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/09/racist-mob-menacing-refugee-children-far-right
"If you want to understand what England will look like with a Reform government, just come to our town. Racists and thugs are acting with impunity, intimidating local residents and people of colour, who are living in fear."
Problem with piece: this is happening now, under Lab, and there's plenty of time for it to get worse before Reform see power.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 September 2025 16:30 (two months ago)
I guess the argument is that Kent, having a Reform council, is going to be the model for the rest of the country if they win the election but yes, hard to imagine anything being different had it gone another way in the local ones.
Local-ish Chatham MP Tris Osborne still weirdly clinging to the idea that people putting flags up all over the place are doing so to celebrate the women”s Rugby World Cup.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 9 September 2025 16:41 (two months ago)
“Once upon a time, an intelligent, sharp-witted man they call ‘mysterious’ parachuted into my life … you would spend many hours just waiting for him to turn up … And often, no sooner were you used to having him around, you would suddenly be alone again … Leaving you with some ‘interesting’ friends to entertain instead … Or just some dogs to keep you company (he wasn’t always so keen on them) … But then he would parachute back in … Very occasionally, taking you by surprise in some far off places … Or in one of his glorious homes he likes to share with his friends (yum yum) … But wherever he is in the world, he remains my best pal!”
"yum yum" Mandelson's warm message to Epstein 🤮
about the only time I have enjoyed a PMQ clip in years was watching Badenoch making Kieth squirm over his "best candidates only" choice for US ambassador
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 12:20 (one month ago)
These people are so fucking shameless
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 12:41 (one month ago)
It’s wild that interviewers are letting them away with the ‘ah yes, all very unfortunate but who was to know at the time?’ bit when Mandelson was still hanging out with him post-conviction.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 13:01 (one month ago)
and he contributed to a birthday book full of thinly veiled references to noncing
― glug (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 13:20 (one month ago)
Let's make calling him Peter "yum yum" Mandelson the specific albatross around his neck
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 13:24 (one month ago)
if you gave Mandelson some kind of truth serum he wouldn't say he regrets his association with Epstein, he'd admit that he deeply laments that Epstein got ever got caught, because this should never have happened. Like ffs he'd be saying, what part of what was supposed to be a failsafe elite sex trafficking and abuse factory went wrong here.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 14:42 (one month ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlK-J7AZJrk
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 14:47 (one month ago)
Marvelously forensic and sensible of Starmer to persist in defending and shielding yum yum, even as worse stuff is abut to come out as well.After all it would be student politics to sack him
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 14:49 (one month ago)
such an easy W for the starched-collar head boy to sack the shapeshifting epstein pal - makes you wonder what sort of demonic hold lord m has on him
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 15:07 (one month ago)
is he considered the Murdoch whisperer, basically?
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 15:08 (one month ago)
He has close ties to a lot of the lobbying firms, which I guess is useful.
There’s not much of material importance that Starmer knows now that he didn’t know when he appointed Mandelson so idk if sacking him gets him out of much of a hole. Of course, if Mandelson had any shame, he’d resign so as ‘not to be a distraction’ or whatever, but not much chance of that.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 15:57 (one month ago)
one of the most corrupt and sinister politicians of our age, and that's saying something
I wonder how many host bodies it's had before this one
― Sgt. Biscuits, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 16:00 (one month ago)
I'm old to enough to remember when it was considered that Jez had committed a seriously offensive antisemitic trope by pronouncing Epstein in the --sht-- way, which might be the German fashion or something. Now if you were a fellow traveller of the notorious sex-trafficking paedo and considered him your best pal and stayed in many of his high-class industrial abuse factories during your long friendship with him, oh that is no problem. Carry on.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 16:21 (one month ago)
In a string of leaked messages, Mandelson wrote: "I think the world of you and I feel hopeless and furious about what has happened.
"I can still barely understand it. It just could not happen in Britain. You have to be incredibly resilient, fight for early release and be philosophical about it as much as you can.... Everything can be turned into an opportunity and that you will come through it and be stronger for it"
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 17:06 (one month ago)
Former Barclay's boss Jes Staley is banned from any Banking job cos of his association with Jeffrey Epstein, revealed by the "Project Jeep" investigation. Mandelson's Epstein links were also revealed by "Project Jeep", but didn't stop Starmer hiring him https://t.co/KEcTdOuhwL— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) September 10, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 17:09 (one month ago)
More of this please.
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 17:10 (one month ago)
You have to love a slow leak of information, let the perp bury themselves with diversionary pseudo-apologies then hit them with the next revelation
― let's argue points of ideological doctrine (Matt #2), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 17:23 (one month ago)
“Lord Mandelson went on to say that “perhaps because I am a gay man”, he may have been blinded to Epstein’s criminal behaviour.”Beast mode— punished giorgio (@GMomurder) September 10, 2025
Nobody out there doing it like him.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 17:34 (one month ago)
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:v6nijhchh2byptokweutvzuo/bafkreiglicrcen6lz6wgkxqnbv6nfqfuhhoobimmnh5o5z7as6csd5usqq@jpeg
idgi what's Starmer's angle here
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 18:39 (one month ago)
I've given up on trying to figure out any of Starmer's angles, truly an enigma wrapped in a bundle of sticks around an axe
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 18:46 (one month ago)
it's the same angle a rabbit has when it's looking at the oncoming headlights of a car
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 18:49 (one month ago)
if Mandelson does go is he going to have blame all it all on Morgan McSweeney or finally bite the bullet himself? (lol), or what other options? maybe toughing it out is the only thing he can do without bringing down his premiership (lol)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 18:51 (one month ago)
he's got used to a compliant media simply not pursuing this, it's possible he's hoping they get bored and go back to ignoring it in short order
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 20:03 (one month ago)
Next, start asking what McSweeney, a Mandelson protégé, knew about his old boss’s associations.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 20:07 (one month ago)
maybe he can ask isaac herzog what to do while he tickles his balls
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 20:25 (one month ago)
Mandelson won't resign, he has...nowhere else to go.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 20:27 (one month ago)
LOOOOL
He stood down from it but keeps active shares in his lobby group Global Counsel, which is highly irregular for anyone on a government appointment and got pointed out as such at the time of his appointment.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 20:32 (one month ago)
Dunno why anyone's giving Starmer shit, he's proved yum yum right: it just could not happen in Britain.
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 20:48 (one month ago)
government ministers falling over each other to mourn some dead American fash who most of the population have never heard of, i guess any distraction is welcome right now
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 22:51 (one month ago)
My thoughts this evening are with the loved ones of Charlie Kirk.It is heartbreaking that a young family has been robbed of a father and a husband.We must all be free to debate openly and freely without fear - there can be no justification for political violence.— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) September 10, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 September 2025 05:43 (one month ago)
not seen such a hollow, politically inept, utterly pointless tribute to a dead fascist scumbag since De Valera offered his condolences to the Third Reich!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 September 2025 06:29 (one month ago)
I know it's all about the upcoming Trump visit, but just what a worthless piece of shit
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 September 2025 06:36 (one month ago)
Political violence = bad and I'll say so
Violence against minorities, the disabled, the weak = so good I'll make laws for more of it
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 September 2025 06:37 (one month ago)
Honestly, I would be popping corks if this cunt got shot
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 September 2025 06:38 (one month ago)
I have never heard a bar of the band Kneecap and would likely find them unlistenable. Just that they have a song called Kill Your MP is worthy of praise & respect imo
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 September 2025 06:41 (one month ago)
Just saw some Labour robot on Sky News saying this is a sad day for the world. They just open their mouths and this mindless shite flows out.
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2025 06:44 (one month ago)
no justification for political violence, except in Israel
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 11 September 2025 06:51 (one month ago)
And Qatar.
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2025 06:53 (one month ago)
we start making a list of exceptions we'll be here all day
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 September 2025 07:00 (one month ago)
I can't remember Starmer condemning the IDF for the political assassination of the Yemen PM. He can't even condemn Epstein without sounding like a lying mealy-mouthed hypocrite. This is partly why he is despised by the entire political spectrum in the UK.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 September 2025 07:03 (one month ago)
Govt minister Mike Tapp is asked about Lord Mandelson and he immediately starts talking about how vile Jeffrey Epstein was & how much he and Keir Starmer have done to put vile paedophiles in prison.While he talks #BBCBreakfast displays photographs of Mandelson with Epstein. pic.twitter.com/1cgsgGfLYy— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) September 11, 2025
(Alan Partridge voice) Can I just shock you? I dislike paedophiles
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 11 September 2025 08:01 (one month ago)
lol, the worst thing he could do was bring up Starmer's DPP record on paedophiles
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 September 2025 08:37 (one month ago)
We must all be free to debate openly and freely without fear
"But I can and must have a few thousand people arrested over putting a certain two words together."
― nashwan, Thursday, 11 September 2025 08:58 (one month ago)
Why are dumb uk pols posting like this murder was carried out by some commie.
I have no love for Charlie Kirk or the politics he represents, but shooting your political enemies is not the solution. Debate, fight the ideas, win the argument. Resorting to violence, intimidation, murder is the behaviour of a coward.Condolences to his wife and children— Mothin Ali (@MothinAli) September 10, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 September 2025 09:47 (one month ago)
tbf charlie had many enemies on the right also tho i'm not sure they're checking in with mothin ali for moral guidance
― mark s, Thursday, 11 September 2025 09:53 (one month ago)
RIP Mandy, heaven needed a new friend for Jeffrey Epstein
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 11 September 2025 09:56 (one month ago)
he was a McSweeney appointee, so he should be gone as well
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 September 2025 09:58 (one month ago)
got to admit, Kieth sure knows how to execute a phase 2 of his leadership. Never want this phase to end.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 September 2025 10:02 (one month ago)
The emails show that the depth and extent of Peter Mandelson's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein is materially different from that known at the time of his appointment," it says
bullshit
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 September 2025 10:08 (one month ago)
Before Starmer appointed Mandelson, a court case had publicly revealed that eg Mandelson stayed at Epstein's mansion after his conviction. Starmer is saying if Mandelson stayed at Epstein's house knowing him to be guilty, that's OK, but not if he thought Epstein innocent ?
flimsy, outright bullshit excuses that do not hold water, crumble under the slightest scrutiny
UK Media: hold our beers
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 September 2025 10:21 (one month ago)
In his Sky News interview Mike Tapp, the Home Office minister, said that, as far as he was aware, all the details of Peter Mandelson’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein were known to the government.But, according to Sam Coates from Sky News, that is not the case. He says that Ollie Robbins, permanent secretary at the Foreign Office, has written to Mandelson asking him various questions about his dealings with the disgraced billionaire paedophile. Coates says Robbins is asking questions like: “When did you last meet Jeffrey Epstein before he took his own life? When did you last accept hospitality? What were your last business dealings with?”
But, according to Sam Coates from Sky News, that is not the case. He says that Ollie Robbins, permanent secretary at the Foreign Office, has written to Mandelson asking him various questions about his dealings with the disgraced billionaire paedophile. Coates says Robbins is asking questions like: “When did you last meet Jeffrey Epstein before he took his own life? When did you last accept hospitality? What were your last business dealings with?”
funny nobody thought to ask him this stuff before appointing him US ambassador
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 11 September 2025 10:23 (one month ago)
should Mandelson not be stripped of his peerage?
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 11 September 2025 10:34 (one month ago)
"Keir Starmer said leaked emails between Mandelson and Epstein showed a "materially different relationship from that known at the time of his appointment"."
Ok then
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 September 2025 10:56 (one month ago)
Yum Yum out.
― Person of Interest (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2025 10:57 (one month ago)
No big deal, he's been sacked twice before I think?
― Person of Interest (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2025 10:58 (one month ago)
Can you even call it a real decade if he hasn't.
― nashwan, Thursday, 11 September 2025 11:01 (one month ago)
― mark s, Thursday, 11 September 2025 bookmarkflaglink
I don't think uk pols are going to know about most things, including this - just weird that this is even getting much comment here.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 September 2025 11:03 (one month ago)
there was a time that it would have seemed deeply weird that a Labour leader (and many MPs) are giving gushing tributes to a US fringe white supremacy/gun nut/2nd amendment lunatic who got shot.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 September 2025 11:10 (one month ago)
Yes. Can see why Starmer and co. might feel the need to appear vocally in favour of US-defined ‘free speech’ under the circumstances but everyone else, from Mothin Ali to Aaron Bastani, is just addicted to posting and the need to have a Take on everything.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 11 September 2025 11:13 (one month ago)
the only good UK takes on this were the funny ones.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 September 2025 11:19 (one month ago)
dude getting shot was inherently funny tbf
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 September 2025 11:33 (one month ago)
wonder who sat down and had the talk with Kieth about sacking Yum Yum
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 September 2025 11:34 (one month ago)
Turning Point UK are the ones responsible for picketing Drag Queen Story Hour in south London.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 11 September 2025 11:38 (one month ago)
Genocide enthusiast Dan Hodges says:
@DPJHodgesUnderstand there is mounting panic in Downing Street that Peter Mandelson has decided to try to bring Keir Starmer down with him.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 12 September 2025 09:53 (one month ago)
sounds good to me
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 12 September 2025 10:04 (one month ago)
spotted in Bloomsbury this morning. ffs https://i.postimg.cc/PrK92HPL/20250912-085340.jpg
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 12 September 2025 10:22 (one month ago)
Where? I’m happy to walk over and alter it.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 12 September 2025 10:27 (one month ago)
sorry for novara but this is good:
https://novaramedia.com/2025/08/25/i-live-in-constant-fear-delivery-couriers-fight-for-survival-amid-labours-immigration-blitz/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 12 September 2025 10:33 (one month ago)
xp that little bit of road between Gordon Square and Tavistock Square, on the southern end. think it's considered part of Gordon Square.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 12 September 2025 10:39 (one month ago)
really hoping that mandy goes fucking nuts after this. I hate all these people and want to enjoy watching them destroy each other. for a while i assumed he had some evil dirt to dish on starmer but unfortunately it seems more likely that mcsweeney wanted to keep him in and starmer was just doing what he was told.
― plax (ico), Friday, 12 September 2025 10:43 (one month ago)
Who are the Kirk 6
― Marsee playground (gyac), Friday, 12 September 2025 10:53 (one month ago)
I think it says ‘pray for the Kirk’s’.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 12 September 2025 11:04 (one month ago)
Haha I looked up Kirk 6 also, perfectly nice chest of drawers imo but probably not worth prayers https://www.habitat.co.uk/product/3117529
― Tim, Friday, 12 September 2025 11:19 (one month ago)
spotted in Bloomsbury this morning. ffswhere art thou Banky
― nashwan, Friday, 12 September 2025 11:31 (one month ago)
it's already gone! the workmen nearby decided to plaster over it. that's my london.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 12 September 2025 11:32 (one month ago)
we're now in the phase of hysterical media over-reaction to off-the-cuff comments made by people who wouldn't otherwise be in the news, while the insane wing-nut views of Kirk himself are ignored or described as "free speech": https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c04qz5lk6ggo
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 12 September 2025 11:36 (one month ago)
xp to calzinoThe weird thing about all the self-destruction and egomania is that it's almost like it's following a script. Many on the left predicted this sort of auto-induced collapse, I expected it, the level of morality, loyalty and corruption these people have virtually determines it, but still, to see it actually play out with almost Shakespearean dramatic fidelity and poetic justice is just... wild. You would think that they'd have advisors who are smarter than them, but it just seems to be run by people on frantic coke-binges 24/7.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 12 September 2025 11:37 (one month ago)
lol sorry plaxico
I absolutely think that “they” have something on him — theory below.
But as it’s a unified theory of SKS, I’m a bit hesitant also to unify the “they” of his handlers? Clearly there’s an intra-party cabal of old blairites (inc. PM). But there also always been a nexus, intermittently glimpseable, of newspapers (inc.high murdoch ppl), cops & spooks & (apologies for dumb phrase) the UK “deep state”…
Glimpseable when? Well, the daniel morgan case, the david kelly case, chilcot, the phone hacking scandal, leveson, cressida dick’s career
my unified theory is that after his (effective!) work on the macdonalds 2 case, elements in this UK shadow-world decided they needed him on their side instead & spent a lot of quiet time coaxing him — plus also building the wherewithal for pressure when needs (= material for blackmailing)
I think there’s a mostly pre-suborned SKS & a very post-suborned SKS! contra ilx consensus (?well calz anyway) ) i can believe* he still considered himself proudly (mostly) the former, a diligent left(ish) idealist, right up until the day after winning the leadership, at which point certain ppl stepped into his office, spread the polaroids on the desk, and said “ok, here’s how it goes now”
hence eg his trapped-rabbit-in-headlights forever-look = the ppl who helped him get where he is today shafted him too! every one of his predecessors as PM has exhibited moments of relaxed pleasure at reaching the top of the top -- but has SKS? even once? he is (to quote fizzles on BSKY) a permanently tense man. his every thought seems so shadowed by how he got this job, as if the voice he hears in his head at every moment is saying: “we’re making YOU the decider! no not like that”
OK so this is my theory which is mine: and it’s kind of entirely based on the fact that he needlessly & publicly back cressida dick – long after she was obviously & deservedly toast.
To these shadowy “steering groups” you can add a larger (global tech-oligarch) entity (with thielite characteristics) and of course the epstein cabal, however that proves to be structured and financed and etc (if we ever find out… ). Do these overlap? Yes! But they’re by no means 100% in synch. In fact as a “they” they’re very likely in high and mutually uneasy tension.
end unfalsifiable crackpot contribution, except to say that I too want mandelson to spill the tea (as we used to say in more innocent times)
*Ok I like believing this bcz it means that he encountered utter ruin in the very moment of his triumph lol
― mark s, Friday, 12 September 2025 12:40 (one month ago)
There are all sorts of parapolitical theories and rabbit holes with Starmer but his association with the Trilateral Committee is a perennial one.
idk if there is really much more to it than a bunch of establishment people recognising him as ambitious and ‘pragmatic’ during his CPS stint and helping steer his career in the direction they wanted.
― ShariVari, Friday, 12 September 2025 12:55 (one month ago)
xp how this theory work with Mandelson getting the sack? Or is it like backing Cressida Dick long after he should've done.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 September 2025 12:58 (one month ago)
oh sorry yes i meant to put this in: mandelson is active in among all this but as a go-between with contacts -- he's not irreplaceably senior!
(after all nor was epstein)
moves pro and con mandelson at various stages are simply the jostling of factions! it's unfalsifiable!
― mark s, Friday, 12 September 2025 13:09 (one month ago)
if mandelson *doesn't* dob starmer in i will consider it a resounding QED :)
― mark s, Friday, 12 September 2025 13:10 (one month ago)
dig your theory marks ... but
he already showed during his DPP period, long before 2019 that we was already a ghoulish, corrupted character. Like Theresa May blocking his extradition of McKinnon the autistic UFO enthusiast, the US extradition of the vulnerable autistic Asian guy on spurious terror charges, forgot his name. The Night Courts dishing out hard summary justice to bottle thieves during the London riots. Even before he was DPP the previous DPP recommended him to advise police on some grisly anti-GRT mob incidents (including the burning of gypsy children effigies in a caravan with the reg plate "PIKEy1") that had occured in some Tory heartlands shithole and was himself rather surprised that Kieth advised them that were was no case for prosecuting any racist incidents.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 September 2025 13:15 (one month ago)
My crackpot theory is, at this point they don't even have to have kompromat on Starmer given how effectively the hard right has done entryism into the BBC, the armed forces (remember the snipers training on targets of Corbyn's face?) etc.
It's not even 'lay out the polaroids on the desk'. In fact, it doesn't even have to be 'do what we say or there's snipers on the roof of 13 Downing St.' It could be something as simple as 'here are at least 17 known plots / organisations who would just love to bump off the prime minister - do what we say or the secret service ppl guarding you from the snipers can just look the other way when the next Thomas Mair turns up'
― Etherwave, Friday, 12 September 2025 13:21 (one month ago)
These fells must be somewhere in there too
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8xgg7rr1q8o
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 12 September 2025 13:25 (one month ago)
lol i forgot about that ffs (three of them, theyre the “tri" in trilateral)
― mark s, Friday, 12 September 2025 13:28 (one month ago)
lol, I always wondered why that Rockefeller chap give it such a stupid name
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 September 2025 13:29 (one month ago)
I agree with the PLT, post-leadership tension theory, as an explanation for his utter constraint, but I also think he was lying his head off before, but he thought he could be more at ease, groovy, likeable, pick and choose what policies to go with. But yes, his current bearing suggests he has *seen things* which have shit him right up
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 12 September 2025 13:31 (one month ago)
I reckon at points where I was struggling a bit with things. If some UK based Russian asset offered me a grand to set Kieth's doorstep on fire I would have snatched at that opportunity with both hands!!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 September 2025 13:32 (one month ago)
Seems more just that the Labour party has a very powerful central core to it and he's so embedded with them and the message so dictated every day that he has lost any sense of what he believes or what is actually going on. Labour were so spooked by years of failure that they seemed to think the only way to win was some ultramoderated hyper-controlled strategy minus any risks or distinct policies. When that actually secured the win they seem to think doubling down will lead to further access, or just can't abandon that strategy because that's what the machine is doing now and it has no other mode.
I have no idea how much of this is/was based on trying to repeat New Labour's victory, I guess their one big moment, but it does feel weirdly redolent of lots of other parts of life, in the UK and elsewhere. Like in sport or in other areas this idea that "if we were back in charge" we'd simply do it the way we did it, with no regard for the idea that things have changed and in fact that way might be the exact opposite of what is now likely to succeed.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 12 September 2025 13:45 (one month ago)
success*
― LocalGarda, Friday, 12 September 2025 13:49 (one month ago)
have to say i agree with calzino and certainly his spook adjacence seems to go a good bit back. Sitting here in enormous tinfoil galleon, I find stuff like his role in the mclibel deeply suspect given the number of undercover cops we know were sniffing the air. Realistically i know that it is far more likely "a bunch of establishment people recognising him as ambitious and ‘pragmatic’ during his CPS stint and helping steer his career in the direction they wanted."
the script-like acting out of the Mandy scandal is interesting. For me its so much a piece with these neo-Blairites coming across as arrested development children, forever dressing up as mummy and daddy (Blair and Brown?) and doing grown up politics in their best grown up voices. The rabbit-in-a-headlights look seems common to most of them, albeit alternating with a psychotic certainty. I'd be more inclined to see it as them intermittently catching themselves in the *mirror of self knowledge* and thinking 'oh fuck' before convincing themselves that this is just imposter syndrome rather than the less appealing truth that they are imposters (Reeves is archetypal here - panic and certainty seem to have merged into something monstrous). In this light a shocking resignation from Peter Mandelson is just a trope - an element of the fantasy that needs to be acted out. That would sort of explain the doomed compulsiveness that seems to saturate everything this cohort does.
This is my general take and i recognise that this kind of psychoanalysing is cheap and rarely convincing to others!
― plax (ico), Friday, 12 September 2025 15:33 (one month ago)
dig your theory marks ... buthe already showed during his DPP period, long before 2019 that we was already a ghoulish, corrupted character. Like Theresa May blocking his extradition of McKinnon the autistic UFO enthusiast, the US extradition of the vulnerable autistic Asian guy on spurious terror charges, forgot his name. The Night Courts dishing out hard summary justice to bottle thieves during the London riots. Even before he was DPP the previous DPP recommended him to advise police on some grisly anti-GRT mob incidents (including the burning of gypsy children effigies in a caravan with the reg plate "PIKEy1") that had occured in some Tory heartlands shithole and was himself rather surprised that Kieth advised them that were was no case for prosecuting any racist incidents.
Twitter joke trial which iirc the DPP were very against him prosecuting?
― Marsee playground (gyac), Friday, 12 September 2025 15:40 (one month ago)
I'd forgotten about that one. Glinner and Nick Cohen offered to pay the guy's legal bills!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 September 2025 15:43 (one month ago)
However, a spokesperson for the CPS said that Starmer had not taken part in decisions about the case
the same answer when people accused the pathetic establishment stooge of being too 'fraid of Jimmy Savile to prosecute him!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 September 2025 15:49 (one month ago)
I find stuff like his role in the mclibel deeply suspect given the number of undercover cops we know were sniffing the air.
I lived in the housing association bloc where Morris and Steel (and occasionally Starmer) had an office in one of the flats, which was about six blocks from the big police station in Holborn; Doughty Street chambers is also nearby. I interviewed the pair for a magazine feature when the trial was happening. The block was formerly short life housing and it would seem evident that spy cops would be living there, cosplaying as bike bro couriers - one spy cop was in Reclaim the Streets (and a few mug shots of them seem weirdly familiar). Between Camden and the Met, it would be easy to put people in there (or the hostel behind).
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 12 September 2025 20:08 (one month ago)
― mark s, Friday, 12 September 2025 bookmarkflaglink
An interesting detail.
I have no sympathy whatsoever for Peter Mandelson, but is it worth mentioning, maybe, that he entered into litigation against the Murdochs last year for illegal intrusion into his private life?— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) September 12, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 September 2025 06:45 (one month ago)
Feels like Newsnight bollocks but we'll see what the budget does to the UK's position with the financial markets. Starmer and Reeves have been shown to have little political skill.
Do reckon if May elections are bad then he's probably toast.
"They think this government won't exist soon".Ailbhe Rea, Associate Editor at Bloomberg UK, says it's taken "basically all week" to fill junior roles in the government due to an "end of days" feeling in the Labour Party. #Newsnight pic.twitter.com/nlcWV5lCBB— BBC Newsnight (@BBCNewsnight) September 12, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 September 2025 06:52 (one month ago)
I hear there is a parliamentary group (Mainstream, lol) coalescing around Burnham to take out Starmer, hence the incredibly lame, not even really soft-left, Lucy Powell, who is friends with Burnham, running against Robocop in the deputy leadership election.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 September 2025 06:54 (one month ago)
I'm not particularly surprised by the above graffiti but a Haka being performed outside of Whitehall to honour Charlie Kirk isn't something I had accounted for
― anvil, Saturday, 13 September 2025 07:55 (one month ago)
This will cheer everyone up. Jez on Mandy Yum-Yum:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0dP38aqNKA
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 13 September 2025 08:56 (one month ago)
was reading a comment on a Patrick Maguire piece suggesting that Mandelson was the central force of a lot of the 2018/19 fuckery and also the worst policy ideas of 2020-24. Just an genuinely evil piece of shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 September 2025 09:02 (one month ago)
a
There seems to be a strangely consistent theme in a lot of commentary that Shabana Mahmood is pretty much the only person Starmer has any real confidence in being good at their job, which probably doesn’t bode well.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 13 September 2025 09:07 (one month ago)
I'm glad cowPat McFadden isn't considered "being good at his job" because if he's good at his job there might be a couple hundred thousand disabled deaths in the next 2 years.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 September 2025 09:18 (one month ago)
to use a nauseating lobby journo type analogy. McSweeney's sweeping purges and little tent full of piss philosophy has left Starmer with a very thin squad
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 September 2025 09:31 (one month ago)
I’m out walking Widget and the Chancery Lane Spoons is full of flag-shagging eggs getting lathered up to go in their shitty march.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 13 September 2025 10:13 (one month ago)
Can I just say I love the immediate adoption of yum yum
― a hoy hoy, Saturday, 13 September 2025 10:26 (one month ago)
some people say "Mandy" is homophobic and "prince of darkness" is an antisemitic trope. So finally, now we got a non-problematic moniker that reminds everyone that he is a purely evil piece of shit!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 September 2025 10:33 (one month ago)
🚨 NEW: No 10 were passed the Mandelson–Epstein emails the day before Keir Starmer backed him at PMQs[@thetimes]— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) September 12, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 September 2025 11:00 (one month ago)
it seems like yum yum is already briefing against Starmer in the Times, could be an extremely hilarious week ahead
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 September 2025 11:24 (one month ago)
bring back duelling
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 September 2025 11:43 (one month ago)
This actually could bring him down, amazing.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 September 2025 11:46 (one month ago)
Yum Yum has also taken action against the Murdochs for invading his private life so cooperating with the Times is very interesting of him.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 13 September 2025 12:04 (one month ago)
The sackings of Rayner and Mandelson are on top of months and months of bad polling, terrible policy, but also the global economic downturn.
Wes Streeting would be found out real quick too, I think. Don't think there's anybody else who is not hated by the right who could take over.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 September 2025 12:05 (one month ago)
the briefing around Burnham staging a challenge is pretty funny because they'd need to find him a safe seat and, well, *gestures vaguely at the entire country*
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 September 2025 12:09 (one month ago)
Well now
We understand that Graham Stringer is the Labour MP considering standing down in order to let Andy Burnham become the by-election candidate.Stringer currently serves the constituency of Blackley and Middleton South in Greater Manchester. https://t.co/KnHXxyAYD9— Evolve Politics (@evolvepolitics) September 13, 2025
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 September 2025 12:27 (one month ago)
I was going to say they'd have to persuade some old duffer of an MP in Greater Manchester to fall on his sword and bang on cue...
― Person of Interest (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 September 2025 12:28 (one month ago)
i simply don't believe any seat is a slam dunk for Labour right now
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 September 2025 12:31 (one month ago)
The crowds around this unite the right march look p big to me :-(
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 September 2025 12:33 (one month ago)
just read that ffs
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 September 2025 12:34 (one month ago)
Burnham won every single precinct in MCR so I reckon he’s popular enough there to win in any seat he picks.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 13 September 2025 12:52 (one month ago)
p weird reporting from bbc
They were carrying various flags and banners, and a band was heard playing songs about freedom and Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon.
bob marley
― LocalGarda, Saturday, 13 September 2025 13:08 (one month ago)
So will there be more or fewer arrests from this violent nazi march than there have been for ppl protesting genocide
― GY!BP (wins), Saturday, 13 September 2025 15:27 (one month ago)
I just saw a brain-donor from the march doing a vox pop - giving a message to Starmer: why are you ruining this country by allowing foreign men to invade it etc etc... It's just so funny that the Starmer-twitter acct has spent the last year posting multiple times a day about how tough he is on immigration and how many people have been deported this week and him paraphrasing Enoch Powell in a way that has never been done by a Labour PM before. And these people don't acknowledge any of this stuff, to them he is simply a wanker (maybe even woke) with an open borders policy and would still be if he had gunboats shooting small boats on sight and he came out as a white supremacist, him and Sweeney seem to have developed fuhrerbunker psychosis at this point and are incapable of changing direction, even for their own good.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 September 2025 15:45 (one month ago)
The Labour donor Lord Alli evicted a family of five from one of his rental properties before increasing the rent by nearly £1,000 a month.The family, who have school-age children, had lived in the five-bedroom north London townhouse for four years, paying £4,800 a month.Days after they were handed a section 21 “no fault” eviction notice in June, the property was re-listed for £6,000 a month, amounting to a 25% increase.
The family, who have school-age children, had lived in the five-bedroom north London townhouse for four years, paying £4,800 a month.
Days after they were handed a section 21 “no fault” eviction notice in June, the property was re-listed for £6,000 a month, amounting to a 25% increase.
the guy who likes throwing money at Kieth for dapper suits and let him stay in his luxury penthouse during the lockdown is a complete cunt shocker!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 September 2025 16:00 (one month ago)
https://i.ibb.co/GvWCD0Tb/Screenshot-2025-09-14-at-08-47-17.png
― anvil, Sunday, 14 September 2025 07:29 (one month ago)
― anvil, Sunday, 14 September 2025 07:30 (one month ago)
These people deserve a taste of their own medicine: almost half of these men abuse women and kids, and they spend all their money on tattoos and cocaine’ etc etc.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 14 September 2025 07:34 (one month ago)
These are young guys.
Protestor 1, "Charlie Kirk's two innocent children had to watch their father get shot"Protestor 2, "Christ is king"Protestor 1, "And they called him the nazi"Protestor 2, "Christ is king"Protestor 1, "The thing is right" *buffering*Protestor 3, "Jesus Chriiiissssst" pic.twitter.com/U9tniszQkv— Farrukh (@implausibleblog) September 13, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 September 2025 07:47 (one month ago)
Even Polanski is doing post-austerity as explainer to this (which is something a lot of the Corbyn left have done) but it feels even more inadequate today five years on with the sitting government paying lip service to it.
https://bsky.app/profile/davidwearing.bsky.social/post/3lyqfqc67jc24
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 September 2025 07:53 (one month ago)
Conundrum: two people (or one couple and another individual) in my block put up flags, in a place where anyone could remove them if minded to do so. They haven’t ever displayed them during England matches or Remembrance events, so the prompt is obvious. Tomorrow these elderly residents are probably at a funeral for an equally gammony neighbour. Knowing they’d be out, would you quietly remove and dispose of the flags?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:07 (one month ago)
Would ideally get loads and loads of flags from other nations (pointedly including Palestine) and festoon the whole block with them
But that's expensive and 'oops, the wind blew them away' would certainly make the point just as well
― Etherwave, Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:12 (one month ago)
One of those half and half flags could work. An England/Palestine flag
― anvil, Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:19 (one month ago)
i think it's fair to factor in post-austerity in some way, in the same way that poverty is a factor in criminality. but the vast majority of these people are not from the margins and "oh these poor lambs wouldn't be racist if the state's infrastructure wasn't so broken" is not the totalising explanation that some of its proponents want to believe
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:20 (one month ago)
I was thinking Irish flags would be a good replacement (these are cockneys with some Irish heritage).
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:25 (one month ago)
Isn't it generally inequality rather than poverty per se that tends to be a factor in criminality
― anvil, Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:26 (one month ago)
Seems like the end result would be they get more angry and buy more flags. I mean I know it's a hall of mirrors but if their belief system is about people denying them the right to fly flags then maybe ignoring them is a better route.
Not seen many near me just one in a garden near Roman Road I guess many of my neighbours are immigrants or hipsters tho.
Apparently there were Irish flags at the match yesterday, but given the prominence of Scottish ones I would assume some of the organising made sure to have a range of flags to suggest broad coalition.
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:28 (one month ago)
These people are racist because nobody in twenty years has seen fit to punish them for it or to otherwise introduce risk. Also: beer, cocaine and the loving, manly embrace of your fellow homophobic and Islamophobic meatheads.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:28 (one month ago)
march* xpost
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:29 (one month ago)
i love beer and cocaine but etc etc
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:29 (one month ago)
I'm glad someone said it.
I don't have a tattoo but if I I did it could well reference loving beer and cocaine
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:30 (one month ago)
not a cocaine fan in all honesty but it's so popular it doesn't belong to any one political group
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:31 (one month ago)
I was also thinking our caretaker could play the ‘fire hazard’ card.
One of the stewards of the anti-racist rally (who said she had also been part of the counter-protests at ‘hotels’) told me that there were leaflets printed in Bengali and distributed in Tower Hamlets threatening people and ‘advising’ them to stay home yesterday.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:33 (one month ago)
Clive Lewis has done a stupid longpost on this, that just boils down to a more moderate, considered version of legitimate concerns that admits a lot of these people are bigots *shrugs* and austerity and blah blah sense of national belonging ... tldr ... the only good take is these fascists just want to intimidate minorities and are complete scum and they need to be stamped into dust. You need at some level to believe that Tommy Robinson is a reasonable person with reasonable demands to justify this kind of ugly mobilisation and he's a psychotic moron, so stop normalising him you dumb fucks.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:33 (one month ago)
They have NO legitimate concerns, let’s be clear.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:40 (one month ago)
If the flags were in a public area I'd be v tempted to remove them. Or yeah add a bunch of smaller ones inc. LGBTQ+. And Isle of Man.
― nashwan, Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:55 (one month ago)
25 arrests and 26 injured cops, they probably prefer working on Palestine Action demos because at least they only lose their self-respect rather than any teeth.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 14 September 2025 08:55 (one month ago)
I think the flags are zip-tied to the walkway railings. These bad neighbours got reported to council and police a few months ago for constantly messing with someone’s plants (the plant owners have a Ring camera and caught them laughing while doing it) and before that left ‘anonymous’ notes claiming I shut Widget on my balcony and they were going to call the RSPCA. They are racist busybodies in their 80s who think people should do as they’re told (by them) and every resident who isn’t related to them hates them.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 14 September 2025 09:09 (one month ago)
It seems like the far right in Scotland have started flying Scottish flags, even though they wouldn't have touched one with a flagbargepole before and are rabid loyalists, because they've realized that shoving the union flag in people's faces was putting potential fellow travellers off.
― Person of Interest (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 September 2025 09:46 (one month ago)
Most elegant defacing I've seen is someone just wrote refugees are welcome here in the four white squares of the England flag, like one word per square.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 14 September 2025 09:48 (one month ago)
write "we are the mods" across it
lol, having to host trump the week after sacking mandelson might be a bit awkward.
― koogs, Sunday, 14 September 2025 10:25 (one month ago)
expensive but buying orange, yellow, green, blue & purple spray cans and turning red crosses into rainbow ones would be fun
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 14 September 2025 10:49 (one month ago)
"I love shagging flags", one word in each square could work too?
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Sunday, 14 September 2025 11:35 (one month ago)
"this flag thrills fascists"
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Sunday, 14 September 2025 11:39 (one month ago)
https://i.imgur.com/iw4hsQ1.jpeg
F Scott Fitzgerald, 1934
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 14 September 2025 11:41 (one month ago)
these days you can buy very powerful tactical laser torches that are powerful enough to singe or even ignite a flag from distance
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 14 September 2025 11:44 (one month ago)
Peter Mandelson had “singular talents” which meant his appointment as US ambassador had been seen as “worth the risks” despite warnings in the vetting process over his links with Jeffrey Epstein, the business secretary has said.
just amazing for Peter Kyle to be saying this less than 2 months after claiming that anyone who criticised the govt's online safety bill was siding with people like Jimmy Savile
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Sunday, 14 September 2025 12:56 (one month ago)
Kyle really is the absolute zenith of stupidity. was laughing Clive's long post on the march getting savaged. "At least Bastani manages to condense his usual horseshit into 280 words"
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 14 September 2025 13:02 (one month ago)
Nice to see Starmer doing his bit for devolution by saying “Britain is a nation proudly built on tolerance, diversity and respect. Our flag represents our diverse country and we will never surrender it to those that use it as a symbol of violence, fear and division.” when he in fact means the St George's Cross.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 14 September 2025 13:17 (one month ago)
https://extramuralactivity.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/m00571.webp
― Person of Interest (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 September 2025 13:32 (one month ago)
Aye, that's right, the United Britain of Great Kingdom.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 14 September 2025 13:46 (one month ago)
Starmer's Irish puppet master, who allegedly controls everything that Kieth says about flags and flag-fucking said he was inspired to join the Labour Party by the good friday agreement!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 14 September 2025 14:00 (one month ago)
Saw this donut/coffee seller at a tube station and he had the GB, English and Lebanese flag.
I would like people to only show Palestinian flags thanks.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 September 2025 14:28 (one month ago)
Ban all flags now, I hate the fucking things
― shag flaggers (Matt #2), Sunday, 14 September 2025 14:38 (one month ago)
No pride flag?
― anvil, Sunday, 14 September 2025 14:48 (one month ago)
― shag flaggers (Matt #2), Sunday, 14 September 2025 15:38
hate the sin but not the sinner, is what I'm getting from your your display name
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 14 September 2025 14:49 (one month ago)
xp talking about states here but ofc :-)
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 September 2025 14:51 (one month ago)
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/624/cpsprodpb/14363/production/_84078728_isflag2.jpg.webp
there was an interesting case in 2015 of the guy who wandered through Westminster one afternoon, draped in the black flag of the Islamic State! Some police stopped him, talked to him and decided he wasn't breaking any laws and presented no danger and let him carry on. It might as well have been a hundred years ago.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 14 September 2025 15:17 (one month ago)
I mean..
#UniteTheKingdom #TommyRobinsonCan’t make this up! 🤣😂 pic.twitter.com/TdIZivZ4Wm— Mike Town (@MikeTown44) September 13, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 September 2025 16:23 (one month ago)
Yes: Robinson has also been flaunting a cross lately. The rally also had a schismatic 'bishop' flaunting a weird nationalist crozier and growling out a bizarre speech. Pretty unusual for the British far right, historically. pic.twitter.com/cNPvlsAazm https://t.co/EPCt2vGaPx— James B (@piercepenniless) September 15, 2025
that fake bishop performance and accent is so utterly cringe that it gives me the hope that these fucking people are just too crass and inept to ever succeed
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 15 September 2025 08:11 (one month ago)
imagine going on a march because you love your country and the whole thing is brought to you and presented by globalist fascists doing a Billy Graham routine
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 September 2025 08:14 (one month ago)
bringing back memories from the 80's of seeing Billy Graham posters everywhere and the National Front marching through Leeds, all the worst shit coming back!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 15 September 2025 08:17 (one month ago)
The Charlie Kirk stuff seems to map on to it, the tributes and signs and even framed pictures being help up. But how much of that is astroturfed and how much of that is ground up from people watching him.
Feels like a number of different things coalescing
― anvil, Monday, 15 September 2025 08:17 (one month ago)
I'd love to know the numbers on UK ppl who had previously never heard of Kirk but now pretend to be longtime admirers of him. RFK claimed to have become very close to him in a period when Kirk was 8 years old, lol
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 15 September 2025 08:26 (one month ago)
Feels difficult to really know. And those who had never previously heard of him will misremember that they had known of him for years
Almost 10 million followers on TikTok though, according to socialblade. I don't know how that extrapolates out to people that view but don't follow
― anvil, Monday, 15 September 2025 08:34 (one month ago)
There's a sheen been put over him that he was a gentle soul, travelled the world like Johnny Appleseed looking for people to debate in the search for perfect truth - so if the left are celebrating his death, then they'd celebrate your death too, friend! Which is all nonsense, but it makes emotional sense to some people, particularly anyone looking to be told that you'd better do to them what you know they'd do to you.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 15 September 2025 10:48 (one month ago)
Would be interesting to know what proportion of the UK’s evangelicals are white or attend white-majority services.
I guess it might be one way to frame the ‘movement’ as in favour of something tangible, rather than the ‘British values’ none of them are able to articulate, but idk how successful they’re going to be with that.
― ShariVari, Monday, 15 September 2025 10:54 (one month ago)
20m ago15.03 BSTNo 10 director of strategy resigns over revelation about sexually explicit comments about Diane Abbott in private email in 2017Keir Starmer has been hit by a fresh Downing Street resignation. Paul Ovenden has resigned as director of strategy at No 10 over revelations, first published by the Mail, that in 2017 he made sexually explicit comments about Diane Abbott in a private email.Ovenden was a Labour party press officer at the time.In his story for the Mail, Dan Hodges reports:The Mail understands that Mr Ovenden had exchanged emails with a former colleague in 2017 in which he retold a story about a game of ‘shag, marry, kill’ involving Ms Abbott he had overheard.He then graphically recounted the conversation in which two women described performing sex acts on Ms Abbott, 71, the veteran MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington.Mr Ovenden has resigned to avoid becoming ‘a distraction’.
Keir Starmer has been hit by a fresh Downing Street resignation. Paul Ovenden has resigned as director of strategy at No 10 over revelations, first published by the Mail, that in 2017 he made sexually explicit comments about Diane Abbott in a private email.
Ovenden was a Labour party press officer at the time.
In his story for the Mail, Dan Hodges reports:
The Mail understands that Mr Ovenden had exchanged emails with a former colleague in 2017 in which he retold a story about a game of ‘shag, marry, kill’ involving Ms Abbott he had overheard.
He then graphically recounted the conversation in which two women described performing sex acts on Ms Abbott, 71, the veteran MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington.
Mr Ovenden has resigned to avoid becoming ‘a distraction’.
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Monday, 15 September 2025 14:25 (one month ago)
what is wrong with these people?
wonder who's been sitting on that story all this time
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Monday, 15 September 2025 14:30 (one month ago)
be right back just going out for some popcorn and champagne
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 September 2025 14:36 (one month ago)
Yum Yum's revenge.
― Person of Interest (Tom D.), Monday, 15 September 2025 14:41 (one month ago)
Yum Yum has got bare dossiers!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 15 September 2025 14:50 (one month ago)
More good news.
https://bsky.app/profile/thesinankose.bsky.social/post/3lyv23fqyns24
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 September 2025 14:59 (one month ago)
fucking hell can't wait to find out what that is
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 15 September 2025 15:09 (one month ago)
I followed Sinian when he was on twitter, he's no bullshitter
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 15 September 2025 15:11 (one month ago)
Was hoping you'd know Calzino :-)
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 September 2025 15:13 (one month ago)
no I just invent libellous rumours about him!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 15 September 2025 15:15 (one month ago)
... which we're about to find out are true.
― Person of Interest (Tom D.), Monday, 15 September 2025 15:19 (one month ago)
I don’t know what it is either.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 15 September 2025 15:28 (one month ago)
I think I know what he’s referring to and it was the subject of one of my favourite twitter threads…there is, ofc, the more mainstream theory that I think we all know
― Marsee playground (gyac), Monday, 15 September 2025 15:42 (one month ago)
I don't.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Monday, 15 September 2025 15:47 (one month ago)
My guesses:
DeliverooUkrainiansMarriage
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 15 September 2025 16:15 (one month ago)
Plus this longshot:
Double agent for Met when barrister for both Lawrences and McLibel.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 15 September 2025 16:17 (one month ago)
IranGluten free cornflakesDidn't finish Adolescence on Netflix
― LocalGarda, Monday, 15 September 2025 16:38 (one month ago)
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 15 September 2025 16:40 (one month ago)
secretly loves Corbyn
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 15 September 2025 16:45 (one month ago)
father was a toolmaker
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 September 2025 17:12 (one month ago)
I think the chances of anyone on the online left being able to keep quiet about a solid rumour are practically zero, tbh.
― ShariVari, Monday, 15 September 2025 17:28 (one month ago)
I can think of a hilarious one (which I may have shared IRL) about a figure on the right of Labour who I haven’t thought about for a year.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 15 September 2025 17:39 (one month ago)
I hope it's not something boring like an affair or marriage troubles.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Monday, 15 September 2025 18:03 (one month ago)
Only accurate guess
― Marsee playground (gyac), Monday, 15 September 2025 18:14 (one month ago)
The only good political rumour I ever heard came from a completely unexpected source and it was good enough that I’ve never heard it anywhere else and the details were rock solid
― Marsee playground (gyac), Monday, 15 September 2025 18:17 (one month ago)
you can't just
― imago, Monday, 15 September 2025 18:20 (one month ago)
I guess you can
Can confirm.
― ShariVari, Monday, 15 September 2025 18:43 (one month ago)
I strongly suspect that one came from phone hacking, which is why it will probably never come out.
― ShariVari, Monday, 15 September 2025 18:45 (one month ago)
Revelations are apparently not even (directly) from Yum Yum but a new book
https://orbooks.com/catalog/the-fraud/
― Etherwave, Monday, 15 September 2025 18:59 (one month ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRcWIXMQze8
Video from Joeri Schasfoort on can you trust Gary's Economics?
― anvil, Monday, 15 September 2025 19:18 (one month ago)
I saw another one like that recently and Gary's opinions seemed to hold up ok. I'm still just a bit surprised his parents are Mormons.
― nashwan, Monday, 15 September 2025 20:14 (one month ago)
oh lol it was the same vid/guy
― nashwan, Monday, 15 September 2025 20:15 (one month ago)
The banterpocalypse seems to be upon us
@DPJHodgesStarmer allies believe the Ovenden messages are a very small part of a far wider cache of messages that are in the hands of their opponents on the Left. And are braced for further leaks.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 15 September 2025 20:54 (one month ago)
I think there's a book
― plax (ico), Monday, 15 September 2025 21:10 (one month ago)
Yeah, "The Fraud" by Paul Holden, out next month. And of course it's likely to be yum yum and his cronies leaking stuff currently, not "the left", who journalists wouldn't pay attention to anyway. Still. Amusing.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 15 September 2025 21:15 (one month ago)
The book will be out in advance proof and I’m sure it’s being combed through by the lobby hacks.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 15 September 2025 21:23 (one month ago)
Yeah I would have thought too of this coming from left sources will turn the rumour mill off
― plax (ico), Monday, 15 September 2025 21:25 (one month ago)
I feel like it's an ideal time to let them eat each other alive for entertainment
https://cdn.waterstones.com/bookjackets/large/9781/6821/9781682195987.jpg
Holden is a heavyweight corruption investigator with an absolutely solid rep, not some partisan with an axe to grind. He is drawn towards investigating corruption and some say he's very forensic! Oh lol, Kieth is so fucked!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 16 September 2025 16:33 (one month ago)
Feinstein blurb on the cover, who will be taking Starmer's seat soon enough
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 16 September 2025 16:35 (one month ago)
Since 2019, Paul has led SWI’s work on State Capture, conducting detailed forensic investigations into how the Gupta family ‘enterprise’ looted the South African state in conjunction with a range of multinational companies and enablers in the US, Germany, Switzerland, the UK and China.
this motherfucker is not Oliver Eagleton!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 16 September 2025 16:39 (one month ago)
Oh sounds good! I have to say the name made me think it was #itwasascam stuff.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 16 September 2025 17:16 (one month ago)
I enjoy the solidity of his credentials but let's be real it's undoubtedly true anyway. My only wish is the "get the Tories out" would have to suck it up
― Dunty Reggae Party (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 September 2025 17:53 (one month ago)
Off topic but this was an interesting article about American nukes on a base in Suffolk: https://dispatch-media.com/american-nukes-in-an-english-village/?action=subscribe&success=true
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 16 September 2025 18:06 (one month ago)
They published Asa Winstanley but the Alex Nunns book talso published by the same people is very good.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 16 September 2025 18:07 (one month ago)
Well I'll definitely enjoy reading random badly excerpted bits as screenshots on social media
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 16 September 2025 20:06 (one month ago)
Is this Led by Donkeys?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/17/four-arrested-after-image-of-trump-and-epstein-projected-onto-windsor-castle-ahead-of-presidents-visit
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 September 2025 10:03 (one month ago)
I assume so.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 September 2025 10:05 (one month ago)
Looking forward to the hardened post-jail Led By Donkeys pipebomb campaigns.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 17 September 2025 10:06 (one month ago)
The Provisional Led By Donkeys.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 September 2025 10:08 (one month ago)
instead of doing these kind of ho-hum low stakes attacks on Trump, why don't they go for the UK PM who invited the cunt here in the first place? They've got a better chance of helping bring him down than Trump.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 17 September 2025 10:20 (one month ago)
Because he's their mate and he's doing the best he can in difficult circumstances and we've got to work together to keep the tories out and etc. Not sure if the friendship will survive a jailing lol.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 17 September 2025 10:30 (one month ago)
but if you start with jailing people on 'suspicion on malicious communication' where do you stop?
― koogs, Wednesday, 17 September 2025 10:33 (one month ago)
Exclusive polling conducted over the weekend for LabourList by Survation shows that 47 per cent of members back Lucy Powell and 30 per cent Bridget Phillipson with 23 per cent undecided.When those undecided voters were asked to choose between the two, the result was 61 per cent Powell, 39 per cent Phillipson.
When those undecided voters were asked to choose between the two, the result was 61 per cent Powell, 39 per cent Phillipson.
this is quite funny because Powell is an abysmal candidate but is flying in the polls because what's left of the membership are just purely motivated to fuck up Starmer at any cost
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 17 September 2025 11:57 (one month ago)
He can't do anything right, it's delicious.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 September 2025 12:03 (one month ago)
Phillipson is a real nasty piece of work
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 17 September 2025 16:06 (one month ago)
she's literally inhuman
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 17 September 2025 16:12 (one month ago)
another stonking column from aditya chakrabortty
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/18/clear-keir-starmer-warm-up-act-nigel-farage
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 18 September 2025 08:22 (one month ago)
Who could have predicted that Starmer was such a reactionary, right-wing danger? Erm.. certainly not the Graun, but just about every ex Labour Party member who burned their membership card in 2020
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 08:55 (one month ago)
the key to having a functioning UK media is informing the electorate honestly about the credentials of LOTO/PM candidates before it get's to this dangerous point in history, rather than endlessly slurring the left. Doing apologia for the worst cunts in politics for decades non-stop.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 08:59 (one month ago)
So is anyone joining the untitled goose party? Regretfully I think I might have better things to spend 55 quid on than the opportunity to put “kick the transphobes and landlords out pretty please” in the suggestion box
― GY!BP (wins), Thursday, 18 September 2025 10:51 (one month ago)
I got a benefits-pauper membership for £2.50
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 10:55 (one month ago)
A 9 year old girl has been shot 3 times in a racially aggregated attack. Avon and Somerset Police are looking for a white teenager in relation to this. Just days after a man was arrested over the racially motivated rape of a Sikh woman.Tell me again how this is about keeping… pic.twitter.com/uT5icwt0EK— Chantelle Lunt (@chantelle_lunt) September 17, 2025
"I support flags"
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 11:08 (one month ago)
i was going to sign up on payday. i dont get the chance to say "kick the transphobes and the landlords out pretty please" in parliament, and im too lazy and tired to really say it elsewhere, so i might as well encourage the few people who might.
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 18 September 2025 11:35 (one month ago)
i'm waiting to see whether it turns into the Continuity SCG
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 September 2025 11:42 (one month ago)
Truly a rogues' gallery of tech, finance and right-wing media at tonight's Trump banquet: Sam Altman, Jensen Huang, Tim Cook, Blackstone CEO Stephen Schwarzman (next to Starmer), and an upstart Australian named Rupert Murdoch (in a crepuscular corner with Morgan McSweeney) pic.twitter.com/FD8Q81V35u— Nicholas Guyatt (@NicholasGuyatt) September 17, 2025
I had a choice, infiltrate this room with a backpack of military grade semtex strapped to me or join another stupid, futile political party!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 11:53 (one month ago)
Imagine the smell
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 18 September 2025 12:02 (one month ago)
so weird how whichever party you vote for you get Murdoch. I wonder if the likes of Otto English have any thoughts about this
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 18 September 2025 12:14 (one month ago)
if anyone knows where to get semtex and an invite, message me. until then...
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 18 September 2025 12:29 (one month ago)
it's going great so far
Urgent message to all https://t.co/4acVYPvSDi supporters pic.twitter.com/vtyGbJB0yO— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) September 18, 2025
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:12 (one month ago)
heh! If they weren't such an incompetent bunch of fuckwits I'd suspect this was an MI5 sabotage job!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:16 (one month ago)
anyway fuck it, I joined Zarah's Party. Fuck this old diva!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:18 (one month ago)
honestly, he moves at such glacial pace these days nothing would get done if it was all his party and he's such a precious diva and he keeps totally shit company, he needs to either get his act together or stfu
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:21 (one month ago)
Urgent message to all https://t.co/GR8wfyzI2y supporters pic.twitter.com/UaoFx8Ga4W— t𝕏om𝕏s (@T_om_s) September 18, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:23 (one month ago)
It does kind of look like all the independent MPs apart from Sultana are with Corbyn here, idk.Embarrassing either way.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:26 (one month ago)
Wait what has Sultanna said the mail is legit?
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:27 (one month ago)
We said this was your party — and we meant it. We have just launched our membership.Join us and be a part of history: https://t.co/CE2pxhi1nr pic.twitter.com/GTpKjyxJIt— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) September 18, 2025
Unless the mail has a different portal link than the one in her tweet, I guess so.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:28 (one month ago)
Sultana-Corbyn split
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:31 (one month ago)
this is the kind of personality politics bullshit nobody wants and Sultana might be just as complicit here - who knows yet, Corbyn seems a total diva as well- but I'm erring towards fuck him and his bigoted landlord pal and his speak to my lawyers way of organising politics.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:34 (one month ago)
Looks like its somebody's party, not sure who's though
― anvil, Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:40 (one month ago)
Just join the Greens ffs Zarah
― imago, Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:42 (one month ago)
Corbyn is a fucking moron, telling 10000+ people to cancel their direct debits over some apparant ego flexing bullshit that could have been sorted without going public or calling lawyers. What a dickhead.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:47 (one month ago)
if not that we need to be clear that transphobes, other bigots and particularly george galloway are not welcome in the party, from the start. if that substantially whittles down the base then better that than dealing with it later.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:49 (one month ago)
Yeah it's time for Corbyn to go. He can have his own Labour Classic grouplet with his transphobic landlord chum.
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:50 (one month ago)
We don’t know the details. Email came from a third party, ToS, etc are all US-based. Could well be the case there is also a massive GDPR issue on top of not having aligned with the leadership on the approach.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:50 (one month ago)
A statement from Zarah Sultana MPZarah Sultana MPPosted in AnnouncementsI want to clarify the situation regarding the membership system for Your Party.Neither of this week’s emails had the dual authorisation of both myself and Jeremy - which was the agreement made at the start of this process.After being sidelined by the MPs named in today’s statement and effectively frozen out of the official accounts, I took the step of launching a membership portal so that supporters could continue to engage and organise. This was in line with the roadmap set out to members on Monday and is a safe, secure, legitimate portal for the party. Everyone who supports us should sign up now.My sole motivation has been to safeguard the grassroots involvement that is essential to building this party.Unfortunately, I have been subjected to what can only be described as a sexist boys’ club: I have been treated appallingly and excluded completely. They have refused to allow any other women with voting rights on the Working Group, blocking the gender-balanced committee that both Jeremy and I signed up to.It is also important to be transparent about why this situation has arisen. I do not believe members will accept Karie Murphy and her associates having sole financial control of members’ money and sole constitutional control over our conference. This undermines the democratic principles we agreed to uphold. From the outset, we agreed that MOU Operations Ltd - stewarded by Jamie Driscroll, Beth Winter and Andrew Feinstein - would hold and manage funds on behalf of members until the founding conference, at which point they would be transferred to a new entity established democratically. Every penny raised so far has gone to MOU Operations, and this continues to be the case within our new membership portal. This, to be clear, is members’ money - and our members must decide how it is spent.This arrangement was designed to ensure transparency, accountability and protection against the concentration of financial control in the hands of any one person.I regret that today’s statement has misrepresented the situation. My actions have been consistent with our shared commitment: to build an open, democratic and member-led organisation. I will continue to fight for a process where members’ money, data and voices are safeguarded, not centralised under the control of one individual.I am calling on Jeremy to meet with me and agree to make public all agreed structures, processes and decision-making protocols. Doing this will restore hope for our members, and ensure nothing like this can ever happen again. This party is more important than any one person, and we all owe it to the movement to deliver a truly democratic and socialist party.The democratic founding conference of this party will take place in late November.I will keep fighting for a minimum programme for maximum democracy, you have my word. No stitch-ups, no coronations: the members must decide.Zarah Sultana MPMember of Parliament for Coventry South
Zarah Sultana MP
Posted in Announcements
I want to clarify the situation regarding the membership system for Your Party.
Neither of this week’s emails had the dual authorisation of both myself and Jeremy - which was the agreement made at the start of this process.
After being sidelined by the MPs named in today’s statement and effectively frozen out of the official accounts, I took the step of launching a membership portal so that supporters could continue to engage and organise. This was in line with the roadmap set out to members on Monday and is a safe, secure, legitimate portal for the party. Everyone who supports us should sign up now.
My sole motivation has been to safeguard the grassroots involvement that is essential to building this party.
Unfortunately, I have been subjected to what can only be described as a sexist boys’ club: I have been treated appallingly and excluded completely. They have refused to allow any other women with voting rights on the Working Group, blocking the gender-balanced committee that both Jeremy and I signed up to.
It is also important to be transparent about why this situation has arisen. I do not believe members will accept Karie Murphy and her associates having sole financial control of members’ money and sole constitutional control over our conference. This undermines the democratic principles we agreed to uphold.
From the outset, we agreed that MOU Operations Ltd - stewarded by Jamie Driscroll, Beth Winter and Andrew Feinstein - would hold and manage funds on behalf of members until the founding conference, at which point they would be transferred to a new entity established democratically. Every penny raised so far has gone to MOU Operations, and this continues to be the case within our new membership portal. This, to be clear, is members’ money - and our members must decide how it is spent.
This arrangement was designed to ensure transparency, accountability and protection against the concentration of financial control in the hands of any one person.
I regret that today’s statement has misrepresented the situation. My actions have been consistent with our shared commitment: to build an open, democratic and member-led organisation. I will continue to fight for a process where members’ money, data and voices are safeguarded, not centralised under the control of one individual.
I am calling on Jeremy to meet with me and agree to make public all agreed structures, processes and decision-making protocols. Doing this will restore hope for our members, and ensure nothing like this can ever happen again. This party is more important than any one person, and we all owe it to the movement to deliver a truly democratic and socialist party.
The democratic founding conference of this party will take place in late November.
I will keep fighting for a minimum programme for maximum democracy, you have my word.
No stitch-ups, no coronations: the members must decide.
Member of Parliament for Coventry South
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:52 (one month ago)
ffs at all of it
― nashwan, Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:57 (one month ago)
I love an excuse to break out the popcorn but not like this ffs
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:57 (one month ago)
Impressive to sustain this level of infighting when they’re’s like eight of you. It’s over.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:58 (one month ago)
Well I wanna go live with mom
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 September 2025 13:59 (one month ago)
Just absolute idiocy, the least we could demand after what's happened us a united front ffs.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:00 (one month ago)
Change UK looking like some pretty slick operators right now
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:00 (one month ago)
couldnt organise a piss up in a nandos
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:05 (one month ago)
What in the Samhain is going on here
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:05 (one month ago)
The revolution is cancelled.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:06 (one month ago)
at least the CuKs could hold it together long enough for a meal in Nando's without threatening each other with legal actions!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:06 (one month ago)
i like sultana but this is clearly a total waste of her energy and is totally embarrassing for all involved
like, if forming a left party with corbyn's co-operation isn't viable (which it clearly isn't for better or worse) she really should just join the greens
― ufo, Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:06 (one month ago)
If this is how they handle admin imagine how they’d handle a leadership contest
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:07 (one month ago)
I'd thought I'd never say this, but Corbyn needs to retire to his allotments and jams and sheds etc
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:08 (one month ago)
For sale: political party, never named
― GY!BP (wins), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:08 (one month ago)
i still think she has the energy and persona to get this off the ground, and i'm not sure that most of the people for whom "no Corbyn" is a dealbreaker are the kind of comrades the party needs
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:09 (one month ago)
corbyn clearly didn't want to do this from the start anyway.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:10 (one month ago)
I think there are a lot of ways in which Corbyn has outlived his usefulness but idk if 500k people are signing up for the Unnamed Zarah Sultana / Jamie Driscoll Project. Even if that was remotely viable before this farrago, I don’t think it is now.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:11 (one month ago)
Corbyn is to blame here, he's the senior more experienced one who has been around for donkeys years in politics that he should be a wise calm head, but he's precisely the opposite. Completely selfish wrecking ball actions taken with seemingly no strategic nous at all. Just fucking retire old man.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:17 (one month ago)
some have have suggested that perhaps some of the pickled Labour Party brained people that still surround Corbyn are at fault here (particularly for the sexism accusations Zarah made). But that's just making excuses for Corbyn's poor, indecisive leadership skills imo
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:24 (one month ago)
sultana is clearly the best person involved but i don't think she's without blame for deciding the best approach is to repeatedly unilaterally push ahead with a supposed joint project that corbyn clearly isn't really on board with
trying to launch her own party while corbyn figures out what he actually wants to do would also have been a better idea than trying to drag him & the rest of the independents along with her
― ufo, Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:25 (one month ago)
the four other independent MPs have unfortunately demonstrated that they are at best a bit of a mixed bag and very much not the solid backbone of a new party
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:28 (one month ago)
One of them already tried to tell Zarah she was the wrong kind of Muslim.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:30 (one month ago)
Corbyn works in geological time and has no sense of urgency. Just a comfortable old MP plodding along. does he think all the poor and working masses are going live a 100+ years? They need a party now, not 18 months down the line when Farage is already moving his shit into Downing St.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:30 (one month ago)
There’s a bunch of people from Corbyn’s old team involved besides him and a very clear difference in approach between them and Sultana (centralised vs federated, etc). It’s not really clear that hers is the larger of the two factions, even discounting the MPs. It’s not just her vs Corbyn plus four.
Both sides seem to be wildly unprofessional.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:33 (one month ago)
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/aa710bc6c065e4e01d2a5e25df95e480677e314b/1319_3_1328_797/master/1328.jpg?width=1140&dpr=2&s=none&crop=none
He's always been very *inclusive* when working with other MPs!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:33 (one month ago)
that's exactly why trying to drag them all along with her was a bad idea instead of just attempting to set up a party on her own without any of them involved at all. if corbyn & friends wanted to be useless and indecisive she should have just accepted that a joint project wasn't going to work and let him dither about
― ufo, Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:34 (one month ago)
I think that’s probably true and the best course of action, given that mistake, would have been to formally announce a parting of the ways and look at potential cooperation further down the line.
Sending everyone an email telling them to give money to the unofficial bank account that your faction controls so that Kari Murphy can’t keep ignoring your emails, or whatever, is completely insane.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:40 (one month ago)
maybe working with these power-hoarding arseholes around Corbyn is enough to drive anyone insane. It seems clear to me that these ppl have become addicted to whatever levels of power they had during 2015-19 and are just trying rebuild it from scratch. I'm much more pissed with them than with Zarah.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:52 (one month ago)
Don’t these people talk to each other? Why are they communicating to one another via social media and mailing lists???
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:55 (one month ago)
Agree Zarah should not have done this but man what a dick move from Corbyn to send that email with everyone’s signature but hers at the bottom
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:57 (one month ago)
maybe one of the best things about Zarah is that she hasn't been in politics long enough to became Labourised and completely institutionalised in restrictive and stifling ways in the way that old bastards like Corbz and McD have.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:58 (one month ago)
Corbz has completely shitted his legacy here imo
Again, not a fan of anyone involved but if someone sends out an email asking for money to 500k people, at the very least arguably misrepresenting something as the ‘official’ YP portal / donation link, you probably do need to make a public statement as quickly as possible.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:03 (one month ago)
in business yes, but this is politics. He needed to think properly about what he was going to do and think about the long term consequences of what his actions would be. I don't think he has done that here at all.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:07 (one month ago)
to me it seems "if my people can't have there own little mini-fiefdoms like they had in the PLP, then I will just wreck the whole fucking project"
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:10 (one month ago)
Political parties are subject to a lot of the same laws as businesses, though. I think it would be a stretch to say there might be a potential criminal case for obtaining money by deception but if a third-party entity that is not YP sent the protected membership database of YP an email claiming to be YP, it’s not completely out of the question. It’s a potential data protection issue that could very easily get them all sued too.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:12 (one month ago)
― ufo, Thursday, 18 September 2025 bookmarkflaglink
Please no.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:16 (one month ago)
I saw someone earlier suggesting that someone with Zack Polanski's hairline shouldn't name their podcast "Bold Politics". apologies, I lolled.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:21 (one month ago)
It's Your Party and we'll fight if we want to.
P ludicrous stuff really.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:28 (one month ago)
Mandelson was right lol. Nowhere to go.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:29 (one month ago)
This is so incredibly dispiriting not least because the timing seems good for a breakaway party of the left in the UK
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:34 (one month ago)
It is always a good time, but we have to be prepared for it to be small and to grow over time, beyond electionary thinking.
In that sense, opening Corbyn and his mates to being wreckers is useful.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:39 (one month ago)
Corbyn will primarily act in the interest of his brand and his cronies rather than for the common good of a political movement. That's what he has shown here imo and fuck him tbh
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:40 (one month ago)
but at least this might open a lot of people's eyes on Corbyn
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:41 (one month ago)
got two buttons here: one labelled: low key victory. The other: total self-destruction.
Just... don't.. know ... which one to pr...
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:11 (one month ago)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:21 (fifty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
100% certain this is intentional self-deprecation
― imago, Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:14 (one month ago)
good for him tbf
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:17 (one month ago)
or Corbyn or Sultana capable of self-deprecation? probably not.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:19 (one month ago)
oh boy, is this going to be a day for Mikey to let rip on twitter! He was mostly correct tbf.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:25 (one month ago)
Long Corbyn is a thing after all, just not the way centrists describe it— The Gordon Jackson Five 🇵🇸 (@mypalfootfoot7) September 18, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:44 (one month ago)
other good things I hear about Polanski are that he has experienced shit jobs and lived under tenancies of shit landlords (included a current Reform councillor/slum landlord). Also he made Penny Mordaunt look like a craven coward when all she had was "student union" jibes in return. He's kind of grown on me, despite the vile indelible stain on his character that is "ex-LibDem".
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:57 (one month ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1Iku_PXcAAKzbc?format=jpg&name=small
ah but maybe Corbyn and Sultana are a Green Party psyop!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 17:40 (one month ago)
I'm all out of cope and this clownshow has genuinely upset me this afternoon. And I don't have enough time left on this planet to be getting upset over the raging egos of stupid fucking political operators pursuing their own empire building nonsense. So fuck it I have joined the Green Party. New record that, going through 2 parties in one day!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 18:13 (one month ago)
Collect the set! I’m totally with you tho, despite my misgivings pre clusterfuck itt the rapid sinking feeling today has been very bad for me, it’s not a good time to be politically homeless when the fash are marching in the street
― GY!BP (wins), Thursday, 18 September 2025 18:21 (one month ago)
I probably told this story before but the high point of my lab membership was winning a regional prize draw for a SIGNED official Coffee4Corbyn travel mug. After a couple of months it still hadn’t arrived and I gave them a gentle nudge via email and finally received it. The doddery old sod had signed it with a dry wipe marker that did not survive a single rinse lmao (tbc idgaf about autographs or pol worship, it was also a shitty mug tho)
― GY!BP (wins), Thursday, 18 September 2025 18:25 (one month ago)
They had a rare opportunity for a new electoral force in UK politics here and could have started something promising, everything was coalescing in their favour - quite critically - apart from the two co-leaders. Jeremy was the most guilty one imo for trying push Sultana to the margins and side up with some idiots and bring his old band back together. Yeah Jezza, it's all about you - isn't it?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 18:28 (one month ago)
Yeah if you believe sultana on how she’s been treated, and there is no good reason not to, it’s an instant non starter
― GY!BP (wins), Thursday, 18 September 2025 18:33 (one month ago)
Truly fucked it. A potential 800k membership that dwarfs the Greens, all to waste!
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 September 2025 18:51 (one month ago)
My brother -- who doesn't do much politics and asks me all sorts about things -- sigbed up and was berating me for now doing so the other week! I've no doubt he would've paid subs.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 September 2025 18:54 (one month ago)
*not
I think being an MP for a lifetime warps your psych in ways that can't be fixed, makes you entitled in ways that become habitual, (particularly in the PLP) makes you naturally conceited, cliquish and totally anti-democratic even when you wrap this compulsion in democratic processes and make it look respectable - while you bring all your mates in. Even the left-wing ones with the impeccable voting record like Corbz has.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 18:55 (one month ago)
sorry for insta but this at least made me laugh today...
https://www.instagram.com/p/DOom080jTLS/
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 18 September 2025 18:57 (one month ago)
calz in the greens, we are truly in the end times
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 18 September 2025 19:34 (one month ago)
I was thinking of voting for them when they were quite lame, during early period all hope is dead, when Starmer beat RLB in the Labour leadership election. But now, during some kind of bipolar episode, I thought fuck it , join em !
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 19:45 (one month ago)
the new social media post is a distressing escalation
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 18 September 2025 19:46 (one month ago)
I think it basically suggests legal action against Sultana?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 19:48 (one month ago)
I'm starting to genuinely despise Corbyn today.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 September 2025 19:49 (one month ago)
It suggests that Sultana may have broken the law, for sure. That’s different from YP ‘taking legal action’, I think.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 18 September 2025 19:54 (one month ago)
I don’t know (care) about the law here (and don’t know what everyone’s talking about cause I’ve been out at the pub) but vibes suggest incredibly foolish miscalculation from ZS Still have fully zero interest in a party publicly talking about seeking legal advice against Zarah fucking Sultana
― GY!BP (wins), Thursday, 18 September 2025 20:12 (one month ago)
xps I voted for the greens in Brighton bitd and again in the last election as a very very last minute change from spoiling my ballot but I’m a melt
― GY!BP (wins), Thursday, 18 September 2025 20:14 (one month ago)
I know lots of the greens here as one of their councillors is a neighbour, generally a mixture of old hippies and very keen youngsters
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 18 September 2025 20:19 (one month ago)
I don’t really understand GDPR, despite it being the bane of my life, but orgs generally have very strict rules they need to abide by, along the lines of ‘don’t use data for purposes you don’t have permission for, don’t mislead people about what you’re collecting data for, don’t enable people in your org to access and use data for unauthorised purposes, don’t transfer data to third parties without permission’, etc, etc. Mess any of that up and you risk massive fines. Pretty sure there is an active obligation to report to the ICO in the event of a breach.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 18 September 2025 20:27 (one month ago)
*sigh* the anarchists know
https://bsky.app/profile/mediocredave.bsky.social/post/3lz4k54mmlc22
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 September 2025 20:50 (one month ago)
Honestly yeah that’s why some bare minimum red lines might have been desirable from the off
― GY!BP (wins), Thursday, 18 September 2025 20:56 (one month ago)
Oh we need to wait 6 months for members to drive our policy on whether genocide is bad 6
― GY!BP (wins), Thursday, 18 September 2025 20:58 (one month ago)
6 I tell you. 6!
Raising an eyebrow at some of the people in ZS’ camp who were claiming that calling her ‘ambitious’ was an Islamophobic dog whistle seemingly being happy to bracket all four Independent MPs as right-wing social conservatives based on Adnan Hussein’s lousy trans rights position, tbh. Maybe there’s more. Idk.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 18 September 2025 21:08 (one month ago)
Whole thing just seems an embarrassing shitshow, played out on social media for all to see
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 18 September 2025 21:13 (one month ago)
great glory unto our brother of huddersfield
― imago, Thursday, 18 September 2025 21:43 (one month ago)
all four Independent MPs as right-wing social conservatives based on Adnan Hussein’s lousy trans rights position, tbh. Maybe there’s more. Idk.
there is actually a lot more, yes. of the four, three are very openly socially conservative, anti-abortion, anti-lgbt rights and so on. adams' personal views seem to be in that direction but he's at least willing to adopt a more conciliatory stance of 'no one should be discriminated against, we need to respect all views' etc. and abstained rather than voting against the abortion bill, for instance. while all are open to some mild social democracy it seems wrong to describe any as socialist in any meaningful sense.
― ufo, Friday, 19 September 2025 02:26 (one month ago)
yes, the optician one, Shockat if not a dyed in the wool anti-capitalist, seems a really nice, humble, affable bloke with a progressive outlook on politics. Also he dumped the loathsome turd Jonathan Ashworth out on his arse, he deserves a lifetime achievement award for that alone. As far as I know 2 of them are bigots with Hussein obv being the worse offender by being so unapologetically transphobic as well as a landlord scum with a portfolio of props that would be the envy of many Tories.
I think a clear message needs to be sent to the Corbz/Sultana camps and some of the power hungry old Corbz LOTO office detritus coalescing around him: there is no unconditional support, there is no loyalist base here with infinite patience. If you don't get your act together, immediately, then you've got zero fucking support.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 04:33 (one month ago)
oh I misread your post ufo, 3 of them are anti-lgbt, jermy cromlyn wept!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 04:49 (one month ago)
People pointed out that a pro-Palestine position -- which can be held by a CEO now -- isn't enough and a member-led party should be able to deselect MPs if they don't hold down all of the basics.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 September 2025 05:56 (one month ago)
Its all friends and mates.
🙏🏽 SHARE The allegations against my friend @karie_muphy & the IA MPs are untrue & unacceptable. The donations by supporters are under the control of a company called MOU. The directors must immediately transfer the money to https://t.co/Q0aMqX86Y2 or return it to the supporters. https://t.co/tAHTsN1xFj— Laura Alvarez (@LauraAlvarezJC) September 18, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 September 2025 05:58 (one month ago)
This fluff about solidarity won't do.
I won't get drawn into a debate on who is right or wrong but many of us have spent years establishing Your Party. Millions have already invested their support and faith in it. There is no space for division. No room for internal politicking. We must stand and build in solidarity.— Red Collective (@RedCollectiveUK) September 18, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 September 2025 05:59 (one month ago)
seems like a futile project to attempt build a socialist party around a bunch of mps who aren't socialist in any meaningful sense and who don't want to actually be accountable to members and sultana probably should have just given up on the idea
― ufo, Friday, 19 September 2025 06:18 (one month ago)
"solidarity" as a cudgel to censure party members is the path to Chris Williamson, Galloway, Adnan Hussein etc.. being comrades, people who need to be clearly told to fuck off.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 06:20 (one month ago)
Yeah, she miscalculated. The margin for error might be so slim now that this could be fatal for her and any left-wing formation from becoming some post-Galloway claptrap xp
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 September 2025 06:23 (one month ago)
The donations by supporters are under the control of a company called MOU
Makes sense now he's back working in Europe.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 19 September 2025 06:29 (one month ago)
I feel like whatever is going to coalesce around Corbyn going forwards is going to quite rotten from inception and it's going to be a car crash and it will be literally what detestable centrists used to call a magic grandpa cult during 2015-19. It's going to literally turn into that shit, lol!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 06:30 (one month ago)
I think it’s hard to see either of them forming any kind of viable party after this.
― ShariVari, Friday, 19 September 2025 06:33 (one month ago)
We need ppl to hold the fucking line or else. Starmer saying left-wing stuff and then switching to Reform politics with no accountability is going to have disastrous consequences. Mamdani looks good now but he is in the process of being disciplined by the media, not the DSA. I actually am happy that Sultana has called this out and is insisting this is done right, or perhaps it isn't worth it.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 September 2025 06:40 (one month ago)
Corbyn comes out of it much less fit to be a leader of any party than ZS imo. His croneyism issues and lack of political nous fucked him here. He could have kept it inhouse and avoided a fatal clusterfuck. But his arrogance and sense of entitlement is what he leads with rather than subordinating personal interests to the greater good.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 06:42 (one month ago)
xp I think even a Sultana-led party having 100/200k members would be as much as The Greens lol xp
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 September 2025 06:43 (one month ago)
it's obv hard to unpick precisely but i agree neither really comes out looking well.
it seems a bit like they shouldn't have started this until they had actually agreed what it would be and how it would work, but clearly when that became a blocker there was some desire to just start it first and then decide those things later. that seems to have ultimately been a fatal mistake.
maybe it was never going to work if fundamental things couldn't be agreed. the whole idea of not having a name for the party, while not hugely important in itself, seems fairly telling now also. like... what stuff actually was agreed here? because it sounds like even when they would say 'this exists', the first time around, was a source of tension and conflict at that stage also.
i am now not 100% sure all people involved when it 'launched' would actually have agreed with the statement: 'this is a political party seeking election'
― LocalGarda, Friday, 19 September 2025 06:44 (one month ago)
― ufo, Friday, 19 September 2025 06:48 (one month ago)
idk why any 200k-strong left party would need to be led by Sultana rather than any of the other 199,999 members. Even if this mess doesn’t end in legal repercussions, there have been numerous examples of extremely bad judgement on both sides of the kind that I think would probably be fatal to the credibility and good faith any new party is going to need.
― ShariVari, Friday, 19 September 2025 06:50 (one month ago)
Did you even see the name / image that Corbyn’s team wanted for the party? The ‘Robin Hood Party’
He wanted to launch a party with a video of a multi-ethnic choir dressed with quivers and bows and arrows, singing “COMMON PEOPLE” by Pulp, before revealing the central cowled figure to be Corbyn. Eagleton (who I like) nixed it from the article, least I heard. Fuck off man.— Eyup Lovely (@eyuplovely) September 18, 2025
― Etherwave, Friday, 19 September 2025 06:50 (one month ago)
fuck me, grime4corbyn seems such a distant memory at this point
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 06:54 (one month ago)
as regards the membership numbers, it strikes me that getting 700k people to click a link cos you are good at tweeting is quite different from the series of time-consuming, boring, difficult and bureaucratic steps it takes to have a functioning political party that is ready to run for election. the greens may be imperfect but they have that bit done.
in fact, is it not indicative of something that 700k people joined a party which has no name or policies and which has subsequently disbanded? not just of the sad lack of options in the uk but also of the emptiness of that as a strategy, like 'join up and we'll sort the hard bits later'. each policy or strategic decision might jettison a thousand people. the more you become something the more likely some people are to decide it's not for them.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 19 September 2025 06:58 (one month ago)
the Greens have some terrible MPs, but they have a good leader with a strong left-wing mandate for a transformative manifesto. Yes, and all the required party apparatus. So it's an easy decision. Dealing with these clowns really upset me yesterday, I'm wasting a whole day like that on an unacceptable clusterfuck again.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 07:04 (one month ago)
I meant NOT wasting a day
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 07:05 (one month ago)
Zarah’s shots fired
Zarah Sultana has tabled an Early Day Motion calling for a ban on landlords serving as MPs.👀 pic.twitter.com/tiL9ZSLWya— Evolve Politics (@evolvepolitics) September 18, 2025
(Not a snowball’s chance in hell but point made)
― Etherwave, Friday, 19 September 2025 07:08 (one month ago)
did she not know this when she formed a political party with them? looks good on twitter tho.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 19 September 2025 07:10 (one month ago)
she's fucking reight , landlordism needs to be treated as a social disease , as a beyond the pale form of criminality.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 07:10 (one month ago)
shes human LG, and she was outnumbered 5 to 1 in this situation
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 07:12 (one month ago)
She didn't have to form the party with them, like obviously she at some point thought this is more than the sum of its parts or the background or every view of each person involved, it doesn't look great to pivot to "you're a landlord" when that wasn't an issue five weeks ago.
It just looks like energising your base in order to cleanse yourself of mistakes made.
Not slating her but it's essentially squabbling in public, again.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 19 September 2025 07:16 (one month ago)
"idk why any 200k-strong left party would need to be led by Sultana rather than any of the other 199,999 members."
Ofc but its her initiative to get it going in the first place. As she has miscalculated it will be up to those 199,999 members now.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 September 2025 07:19 (one month ago)
it's constructive imo because it shows up what a hollow cowardly hypocrite Corbyn is. It needs to be said even if she didn't find the wherewithal to previously say it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 07:20 (one month ago)
"as regards the membership numbers, it strikes me that getting 700k people to click a link cos you are good at tweeting is quite different from the series of time-consuming, boring, difficult and bureaucratic steps it takes to have a functioning political party that is ready to run for election. the greens may be imperfect but they have that bit done."
I think you are wildly overestimating left-twittter numbers here.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 September 2025 07:24 (one month ago)
Calz if you're serious about joining the Greens, go to a meeting, join a working group or find your voting block (I vote with LGBTQIA+ Greens)
Last week the meeting of my local group had doubled in size. On what's left of the Left of Labour, whole street teams at the ward level and city level are peeling away and joining us, bringing their spreadsheets and tools with them
I honestly thought that Your Party would be their more natural home but they report that there is already a concerted effort from the SWP to move in. The Greens at least now have democratic procedures in place where if an antithetical group (e.g. the anti-trans crowd) try to make a move, the party can show them the door
had Polanski not won the leadership election, I would have jumped ship and joined Your Party. But something has definitely shifted under him.I think in these times it's important to join the left-most party and push it leftward. Polanksi has show that there is a huge desire among the Greens to go even further left
― Etherwave, Friday, 19 September 2025 07:26 (one month ago)
I've already joined the Green Party for my sins, mot a case of still mulling over it!
if Corbyn is willing to work with a parliamentary voting block who are basically Tories apart from on Gaza. He might as well ask Kit fucking Malthouse to join Your Party. ZS totally otm imo
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 07:30 (one month ago)
not
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 07:31 (one month ago)
https://x.com/jaded_nowise/status/1968737248246989226/photo/1
I took a pic so I could always remember joining two political parties by teatime on a Thursday
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 07:38 (one month ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1JcGC-XUAE-qzo?format=jpg&name=medium
stupid fucking pic from a stupid fucking day!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 07:39 (one month ago)
― imago, Friday, 19 September 2025 07:39 (one month ago)
I should start going to meetings, London constituencies are ripe for flipping
― imago, Friday, 19 September 2025 07:40 (one month ago)
Has ZP commented on ZS and YP yet? Not on Twitter
I saw a post about a mysterious glut of new members, but obv he has to careful there
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 September 2025 07:42 (one month ago)
that's pretty well played
― imago, Friday, 19 September 2025 07:43 (one month ago)
At the LGBTQIA+ Hustings ZP was optimistic about the idea of collaborating with YP and I think he's too savvy to risk kicking them when down
Recovering Labour Data Wonk was showing us all these wards we could plausibly flip with a little bit of canvassing, and a couple of stretch goals. Then he turned to the local councillor and asked 'why don't we go for these other wards as a stretch target?'
Councillor looked him dead in the eye and said 'for a campaign to canvas a full London ward in a day, it takes 21 people' and looked around the room, still significantly short of 21 people.
If you have time to deliver leaflets, put up posters, go out and ask your neighbours what they're angry about and chat shit about politics, go out and be one of those 21 people
― Etherwave, Friday, 19 September 2025 08:00 (one month ago)
Has this been posted yet? No idea of its provenance but a lot of it checks out
https://prometheusjournal.org/2025/09/09/whose-party-is-it-anyway/
Came up when I googled the non-MPs who were demanding control of the party. I wasn’t aware of the deep history before Sultana joined
But it does seem like there’s a split between ‘loose amalgamation of loosely aligned groups that dont share all interests’ and ‘actual party with full democratically decided platform’
― Etherwave, Friday, 19 September 2025 18:57 (one month ago)
Looks like a good summary.
Seems pretty clear that they were in trouble even before ZS joined. Factional splits over personalities rather than policies, splits within those factions over policies, broad agreement that members should decide but no clarity on how that can / would work, etc.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 20 September 2025 10:13 (one month ago)
Statement from @JamieDriscollNE @BethWinterCynon & myself on the finances of Your Party of which we are the custodians pic.twitter.com/7JGMEj1xuC— Andrew Feinstein (@andrewfeinstein) September 20, 2025
more shots fired, it's so exhausting this. Just basically a bunch of arseholes surrounded by completing cliques of other arseholes. I can't even be bothered working out which set of arseholes are the worst ones! If what Gann was posting about Karie Murphy earlier is accurate, then I'd say anyone willing to employ her as a trusted aide has very poor judgement at best.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 20 September 2025 11:57 (one month ago)
i love how every new statement rather than calming anything down just adds grist to the mill and surprisingly i find that i’m here for it. i’ve moved past depression and now just i’m in it for the lols
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 20 September 2025 12:32 (one month ago)
Socialists should be trying to abolish the state, not make use of it.
Nevermind...
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 20 September 2025 12:46 (one month ago)
it seems there is zero chance of any de-escalation from any side here! But at least now I can now understand Corbyn derangement syndrome - because I'm genuinely starting to hate him, lol. you couldn't rely on these idiots to have a functioning party started within a decade. I'm just happy to have given up on them so at least they wont waste any more of my money, or emotional investment or precious time.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 20 September 2025 12:51 (one month ago)
I could put up with Corbyn's shortcomings and flaws when he seemed the only person who could stop the shitshow we've got now from happening. Now I just see him as an old vain man who has become so accustomed to such a very comfortable life in political activism that he has zero sense of urgency. I don't doubt that he takes in all the figures on UK poverty but I don't think he really understands what life is like for the precariat or how genuinely scared many non-white and vulnerable people are of the fascist government that is coming. Just happily plodding along and doing the right kind of lip-service, turning up at all the correct events, but ultimately never making a shit of difference. More concerned with surrounding himself with all the same lackeys from his opposition days. Too much ego and too entitled to be a part of a wider movement, something bigger and more important than his brand.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 20 September 2025 13:08 (one month ago)
Remember when Karie Murphy’s management style included physically assaulting subordinates, trying to discredit staff by lying about them being alcoholics, spitefully revealing confidences about a miscarriage, demanding young women workers dress more demurely, racism…— Tom Gann (@Tom_Gann) September 19, 2025
apparently all this stuff is well documented in the Pogrund book on Corbyn, yeah from the right-wing press I know but I never read anything about Karie Murphy suing him for slander
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 20 September 2025 13:13 (one month ago)
I think Corbyn is suffering from PTSD
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 20 September 2025 14:07 (one month ago)
Not trying to be flippant. It could possibly explain his judgement and misplaced loyalty
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 20 September 2025 14:08 (one month ago)
Only 77k
Green Party membership now 77,000.Come join us.— Eóin Clarke (@DrEoinOCleirigh) September 20, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 21 September 2025 11:46 (one month ago)
If only they'd set up a mailing list instead of a political party.
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 21 September 2025 11:50 (one month ago)
Big fail on Zack's part there.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 21 September 2025 11:54 (one month ago)
he can't really campaign for new members on: don't bother with the amateur dramatics society, there is a functional party here. Any sign of being happy, or too nakedly opportunistic about the dismal failure of Our Party is nagl and wont win him friends in the long term
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 September 2025 12:02 (one month ago)
A lot of other Greens not particularly keen on the idea of ex-Labour ‘entryism’ too.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 21 September 2025 14:03 (one month ago)
I'll bet.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Sunday, 21 September 2025 14:12 (one month ago)
It really depends? The Greens will welcome you with open arms if you turn up to meetings, volunteer and take on responsibilities and actually get involved on a local level! Many such cases:
CONFESSIONS OF A GREEN PARTY MEMBERWith all this chat of lefties being tempted to place their faith in the Greens, here's an honest account of what it's like to take the leap... (from someone who joined 3 years ago) 🧵👇— Matt Williams (@MattWilliamsNGP) September 19, 2025
You'll get less enthusiasm about people bringing over the learned hoplessness, the corrosive internet perfectionism, and general backstabbing / factional punching that seems now entrenched in the Labour organisation.
― Etherwave, Sunday, 21 September 2025 15:00 (one month ago)
Another good thing about the Green Party is Zack Polanski. He doesn't do blood pressure raising performative hugging pics with detestable transphobic landlord cunts and understands why this would be a deeply problematic thing to do while standing as a left-wing candidate.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 September 2025 15:18 (one month ago)
re: Reeves proposed 20% VAT on taxi fares.
Is there anybody these cunts actually like, apart from billionaires? This will disproportionately hit the working poor and disabled people hardest. More class war against the poorest from the party of Labour.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 September 2025 16:26 (one month ago)
I feel like the past 30(0)+ years worth of UK politics have got people used to the idea that politics is a football match. There are two teams, and all you can do is either complain and hurl abuse from the sidelines or cheer your team on - but ultimately someone else decides the gameplan, someone else pays them and someone else reaps the rewards
While the Greens view politics more like a community garden. Turn up and dig in, and at the end we all share the fruit and veg. If someone from a different garden turns up and waters the plants. Great! The plants are watered
― Etherwave, Sunday, 21 September 2025 16:47 (one month ago)
allotment analogies, eh? Must be a pro-Corbyn entryist!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 September 2025 16:52 (one month ago)
Aptly enough I've heard that allotments are terrible places for the politicking and backbiting.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Sunday, 21 September 2025 16:53 (one month ago)
A community garden is not an allotment, as community gardeners will be extremely quick to tell you
― Etherwave, Sunday, 21 September 2025 16:55 (one month ago)
aiui, it’s a bit more complicated than a new tax. This government and the last have been fighting Uber on their claim that drivers are self-employed so the company isn’t liable for collecting VAT that would otherwise apply. This is one of the things that has allowed Uber to undercut other companies. When Uber lost a court case about the status of drivers, Hunt kicked off a consultation about VAT with recommendations Reeves will have to take a decision on implementing.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 21 September 2025 16:57 (one month ago)
I'm sure Reeves will find a way of making it as regressive and horribly unpopular as it possibly can be, that's her talent
these days you either need to be a serial killer or close friends with a corrupt councillor to attain an allotment
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 September 2025 17:00 (one month ago)
Well this is just horribly predictable and I wish I could take more joy in Sir Kid Starver's inevitable downfall
Absolutely maddening that the media knew all about this during the Corbyn years but just sat on it and looked the other way, happy to usher in Starmer & McSweeney no Q's asked. Now they've both become a liability to the political and media establishment and it's fair… pic.twitter.com/nSx3qqQLRn— Cllr Martin Abrams 🕊️🍉 (@Martin_Abrams) September 21, 2025
― Etherwave, Sunday, 21 September 2025 17:06 (one month ago)
oh yes, it's regrettable that this has come out (by some miracle this corruption expose was previously gathering dust). And I will try and not inappropriately enjoy the schadenfreude too much!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 September 2025 17:10 (one month ago)
What’s most horrible is the current investigation revealing that Reform / Farage are doing the exact same thing - channelling undeclared donations from wealthy sponsors thru shell companies
And this Starmer thing is just going to be held up as an example of ‘that’s just how politics are done now. Pot, kettle, etc’ to justify the New Normal level of corruption that Reform will be caught running
― Etherwave, Sunday, 21 September 2025 17:40 (one month ago)
arguably, I think Starmer has been a much worse pox on this nation than Farage by miles .. so far. Just an absolutely disgustingly right-wing corrupt lying scumbag... who for some fucking obscure occult reason is supposed to be better than him
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 September 2025 18:08 (one month ago)
Seriously: fuck Nigel Farage. I’ve been ILR for 30 years, and never thought I would need to get a British passport.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 22 September 2025 10:35 (one month ago)
my wife is on ILR, to be honest it's already ridiculous that it isn't PLR any more. how many voters have spouses or other family members on ILR? Just ridiculous and terrifying.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 22 September 2025 11:33 (one month ago)
Also proposing to lift the salary requirement to £60k, stop anyone other than U.K. citizens from receiving state benefits and force people applying for citizenship to renounce any other nationality they might hold. Seems guaranteed to have consequences for a lot of their own voters.
― ShariVari, Monday, 22 September 2025 11:47 (one month ago)
and no NHS for non-citizens. i’ve been anticipating this for while now. they get to stoke racism and save money at the same time.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 22 September 2025 11:50 (one month ago)
The hypocrisy is the point, I guess.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 22 September 2025 11:51 (one month ago)
The changes would also mean that those applying for citizenship must wait at least seven years and prove a fluent level of English, as well as giving up citizenship of any other country.Labour has already announced plans to introduce tough restrictions on indefinite leave to remain, meaning most applicants must have been in the UK for 10 years before they can apply.
Labour has already announced plans to introduce tough restrictions on indefinite leave to remain, meaning most applicants must have been in the UK for 10 years before they can apply.
Since when? The UK allows dual citizenship.
― Marsee playground (gyac), Monday, 22 September 2025 11:53 (one month ago)
Wonder if Reform would also end dual citizenship at some point.
What today's announcements show is that there's no way Lab can compete. Not least because any opposition parties can promise extremes of policy.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 September 2025 14:08 (one month ago)
The way to compete, if you cared, would be to make very explicit the implications of Reform's rhetoric and to explain to anybody who feels positive about Reform that they won't be immune from those proposals.
This government won't do that for reasons we're all already aware of.
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 September 2025 14:11 (one month ago)
at least Khan says that deporting our ILR friends and colleagues is unacceptable and they make a huge contribution to the London economy, that's a start. Starmer's only criticism of Farage here is that it's an uncosted policy proposal and the figures don't add up *in his shitty little reedy pinched voice*
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 22 September 2025 14:12 (one month ago)
There is no infringement of human rights that Mr Human Rights won't be complicit in
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 September 2025 14:37 (one month ago)
That’s the rules of jumping-in with the neolib gang.
I would also appreciate people not using utilitarian arguments for migration, because work is only a third of life, and the politicians ramping up the FUD for people like me don’t do any work, anyway.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 22 September 2025 15:10 (one month ago)
i don’t see how Farage thinks he can tell people what to do about their citizenship of other countries. aiui as PM he could revoke UK citizenship for those with other nationalities, but the whole point of being a separate country is that people like Nigel Farage can’t tell you what to do about your own laws and your own citizens
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 22 September 2025 16:01 (one month ago)
I assume his whole point inasmuch as it's got any thought behind it all is "you can't serve two masters so if you keep your dual nationality then we'll revoke your UK nationality". Looking forward to him going after the papishes next
Srsly tho this is probably politically and legally way more complex than a soundbite makes it, but I don't think that's the point
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 September 2025 16:10 (one month ago)
Also Labour aren't obliged to call an election until 2029, so all the talk of Farage being a shoo-in for PM seems premature in the extreme. Don't forget that the Tories, a party with Jason Vorhees-like powers of reanimation, will be five years out from their last disaster by then which is plenty enough time to rebrand themselves as the party of sensible aspiration etc etc.
― the piss-up in the brewery has sadly been cancelled (Matt #2), Monday, 22 September 2025 16:15 (one month ago)
That feels like groundless optimism tbf Matt. I agree it's not a shoo-in but it's very hard to envision the circumstances in which Reform evaporate, and most of those circumstances only involve one of the existing big parties going full fat fash themselves.
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 September 2025 16:19 (one month ago)
I feel like "Reform government but they can't/won't unleash their worst fantasies" is more realistic. Then I look at US libs talking about Trump.
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 September 2025 16:23 (one month ago)
Farage’s kids have dual citizenship with Germany. I’d guess they’d make it a condition of new citizenship requests but not change things for people who already have two, but who knows?
― ShariVari, Monday, 22 September 2025 16:41 (one month ago)
The fate of Reform is very much tied to what happens with DJT - if he leaves office or dies before the next UK general election, people who ally with him will have less juice.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 22 September 2025 16:47 (one month ago)
I've always assumed that the cult loses a lot of its power when the idol dies but we will be in uncertain territory then.
One of the good things about this cunt of personality grift is that none of the main characters are very committed to planning for a future without them
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 September 2025 16:50 (one month ago)
Feel like the UK has been on its own journey to this point, even if it may sometimes now appear it's intertwined with the USA.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 22 September 2025 16:54 (one month ago)
I think the collapse for Republicans will have a negative impact for Reform (as we talked about a week ago) but I expect climate events to impact on migration and the conversation here.
It will be really tough if you are a migrant. Some won't be able to move anywhere so will need to survive somehow. The ones that can move may only get temporary respite, as these discourses are happening in many places. Its not going to get any easier.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 September 2025 16:59 (one month ago)
It didn't need the US impetus but the whole "Christian boys mourning St Charles of Kirk" is definitely a new wrinkle
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 September 2025 17:00 (one month ago)
If you follow the think-tank money and orgs like ALEC, which brought us people like Kate Andrews and several others on the right who take subsidised internships to MPs and use those opportunities to propose repurposed American legislation for the UK, you’d realise how much intertwining there is.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 22 September 2025 17:05 (one month ago)
according to Angus Hanton (Vassal State author) most of the US diplomatic staff in the UK are just here to make sure all the US owned businesses here are not getting taxed or regulated too much
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 22 September 2025 17:11 (one month ago)
I mean, discussing funding or whatever is different to saying Trump is key to Reform succeeding in the UK. Brexit happened before Trump and the sentiments and people behind it are hardly post-Trump. Similarly not sure why him not being around would diminish American political orgs trying to influence the UK.
As regards funding or influence, I don't see why that would stop without Trump. If anything, some of the financial forces supporting the right are gaining autonomy from him during these years.
And they won't stop supporting Reform minus Trump, because he is going to implement a tax regime that helps them, for example, for cryptocurrency.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 22 September 2025 18:43 (one month ago)
Farage, I mean, for "he" there.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 22 September 2025 18:44 (one month ago)
That’s pretty far from a given. There’s been a lot of work done across borders to tie in fascist movements in terms of funding and policies. These people were active and moving towards this moment long before Trump - who wasn’t even elected before Brexit - and they will be active long after him.
― Marsee playground (gyac), Monday, 22 September 2025 18:58 (one month ago)
Ironic globalisation of fascism is real yeah
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 September 2025 19:05 (one month ago)
A lot of the things that will make revanchist governments worse are elements already in place long before they actually take office. Farage has far more in common with James Goldsmith’s Referendum and the casual autocracy of the upper class than a huckster like Trump.
― Marsee playground (gyac), Monday, 22 September 2025 19:06 (one month ago)
More than funding or Trump what's fuelling Reform is a decade of Tory and Lab governments being unwilling to govern and do things that would shore up their own constituencies. Even if Lab were doing badly in polls there is no reason why they should collapse as polls indicate they will. When Corbyn lost in 2019 ppl who always voted Lab turned out. When the Tories lost last year much of their base stayed home.
Having said that Trump has had effects in elections in Canada and Australia and Farage is aligning his policies alongside Trump's. That may still have negative effects in three years time.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 07:54 (one month ago)
As in if Lab were making some fairly progressive laws and noises around further progressive policy they might be doing better now.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 07:56 (one month ago)
<Henman fist pump> pic.twitter.com/pAIJrwgwa4— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) September 23, 2025
we had phase one of govt, phase 2 and numerous resets and relaunches in between (including when in opposition) but yet no substantive change to "same old shit". Now comes the "progressive fightback"!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 07:58 (one month ago)
Farage’s whole shtick is that ‘politics is broken and we need outsiders to the two/three party system to come in and fix things’, which is going to be increasingly difficult to maintain when the face of the non-Farage element of the party is Andrea Leadsom, Nadine Dorries, Danny Kruger, etc and the consequences of giving ‘outsiders’ power in the US is increasingly chaotic and unpopular.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 08:11 (one month ago)
hard to say how many voters they'll lose through economic failure. like Brexit, the economic rationalisations aren't really an important reason for people supporting them.
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 08:17 (one month ago)
That is making an assumption that voters as a group are logical when most people seem to vote with their strongest emotions
― Etherwave, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 08:17 (one month ago)
idk, I think a lot of floating voters tend to vote with the party they trust most to make them feel richer and the current crisis is because neither of the traditional options is offering anything more than managed decline.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 08:28 (one month ago)
Different voters will vote for different reasons, sone emotional some not, and everyone will I'm sure think they thought it through.
Farage might want to deport people who weren't born here (like me) by the next election but I will more likely vote for a communist that loses his deposit than a Green.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 08:32 (one month ago)
the LibDem comeback starts here? Ed Davey was talking about murdering lazy conniving PIP recipients yesterday, nice from someone who used his autistic son as a campaign prop in the last election.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 08:36 (one month ago)
I think the role of the economy or even "own interests" is decreasingly true. Voters tend to vote more I think in line with their personal identity than anything concrete
― anvil, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 08:36 (one month ago)
What made you say that?
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 08:44 (one month ago)
I think the role of the economy is mainly decreasingly true because whoever you vote for returns the same outcome but that might be different when one of the options is ‘might fuck it up completely’. I don’t think there was any coming back for the Tories, before the last election, from Truss’s experimental week in power.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 08:46 (one month ago)
I think a lot of floating voters tend to vote with the party they trust most to make them feel richer
Is 'feeling richer' not an emotional choice? Because I note you wrote 'make them feel richer' not 'make them more financially secure'
I think a lot of these political decisions are made by going for the emotional gut feelings - disgust, rage, envy ('migrants are getting better than us'). And it's clear that once motivated by these emotions and feel a very strong 'NOT THIS!', people *don't* check to see if it's the same bananapants people or policies that got them fucked in the first place
There absolutely IS a case for the Left to make emotional appeals - but the problem is too many cosy 'let's not be hasty' types think you can invoke a cuddly form of flag-shagging without the racism. It's kind of corny to invoke 'hope' as an emotion, but I think that's the trick that Corbyn, Sultana, Polanski, all these 'left wing populist' figures employ. Recognise that rage against the existing order is a powerful emotion, and offer a way to burn rage into hope
― Etherwave, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 08:51 (one month ago)
I think its when its said "people vote against their own interests", but who gets to decided what those interests are? It seems like this is defined purely in economic terms, but a voters interest isn't necessarily just bound to this at all. So I've always found this flawed to some extent.
that might be different when one of the options is ‘might fuck it up completely’
It might be, but it depends on the level of awareness of the voter. It's probably higher in the UK than the US, but lose control over information and this can change. (yes the economy crashed but it wasn't because of Farage it was because of immigrants and imagine how much worse it would be if someone else were in power)
― anvil, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 08:52 (one month ago)
A lot of the time voters may think the politician promising chaos doesn't mean it though. How many ppl really thought Trump would go through with Tariffs.
Truss ofc was never leader through a general election xps
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 08:56 (one month ago)
The issue then comes with how many voters know what tariffs are, or who pays them. And even if they know, then if identity outweighs self-interest, then it doesn't matter. They'll be angry at the result but will it change the way they would vote? For some, yes but I don't think this rational self-interest idea goes very far, and thats even before you judge whether voters are clear eyed and "rational", and thats the case already before your even add misinformation to the mix
― anvil, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:00 (one month ago)
You get people to vote against their own interests through Scapegoating. Scapegoating works because it takes these extremely powerful existing emotions of rage and deflects them into disgust
Working class? Angry about how your prospects and your economic outlook have been absolutely fucked? Migrants. It's people with different coloured skin, unintelligible languages and weird-smelling food! Deflect that anger into disgust!
Women? Angry about how your rights have stopped going forwards and are actually going backwards with less bodily autonomy and more exhausting caring work because the state has collapsed? Trans people. It's people with the wrong body in different clothes with weird gender signifiers and you can't tell if they're a boy or a girl. Deflect that anger into disgust!
That's how you get people to vote against their own economic and social interests. Tug on that visceral disgust so they don't notice what is the actual cause of their anger is
― Etherwave, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:04 (one month ago)
Truss completely tainted the Tory reputation as a safe pair of hands and Sunak was never able to regain it.
To some extent, yes. Are you richer if your house value goes up by 10%, but so does everyone else’s? Are you poorer because you got a 3% pay increase but the price of eggs went up by 10%, etc? There is always a layer of abstraction to it.
I think Farage’s has two fairly risky routes - one to position the U.K. economy as fundamentally broken and in need of a hard reset (per Truss), promise to slash workers’ rights, corporation tax, let the markets free, etc and do austerity on steroids to compensate, the other to say ‘nobody really cares about the economy, what matters is quality of life / “we was poor but we was ‘appy”, etc) - which he came closer to yesterday. I don’t think either of them is going to be very popular and I don’t think there are enough people who genuinely perceive themselves to be so inconvenienced by immigrants as to make either of those pills easy to swallow. Maybe I’m wrong!
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:07 (one month ago)
I think people know that costs are going up, or that you can't find work. People will often stay home during an election because of that, if they don't change their vote, that is.
It's the one thing -- beyond talk or emotional/ratonal/interest of voters -- that feels true.
And ofc many will never ever vote. At this point I wish I was as intelligent as a non voter. xps
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:10 (one month ago)
Anyone promising austerity and slashing workers' rights is going to be eaten alive by the voters this time around surely
― imago, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:11 (one month ago)
Why are Reform polling so high, then?
Is it the same kind of 'burn it all down' reactivity that seems to be fuelling comrade xyxyzz's 'I'll vote for a communist before I vote Green' stance?
I (child of immigrants but white ones) am frightened by those polls and trying not to give into fear
― Etherwave, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:12 (one month ago)
I don't actually know what any of Reform's policies are beyond 'flags' and 'fuck immigrants' TBH
― Etherwave, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:15 (one month ago)
I am unlikely to vote as there are no options. Hardly burning it all down, its an option taken by 20-30% of voters in most elections xp
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:16 (one month ago)
Everything is shit and expensive and Reform haven't had a go yet, is basically what it boils down to
― imago, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:22 (one month ago)
Plus, y'know. Send Them Back
― imago, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:23 (one month ago)
Most voters in Europe are looking at options outside the more established parties for the last ten years. Some progressive, many not.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:26 (one month ago)
We need Liz Truss to join Reform.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:27 (one month ago)
I think she’s busy trying to make a name for herself in the US at the moment but it wouldn’t surprise me if that was her next move.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:38 (one month ago)
Would they want her though?
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:39 (one month ago)
if they don't want Suella Braverman then they definitely don't want Liz Truss.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:41 (one month ago)
That’s the question.
She’s spent the last couple of years positioning herself as the only person who really understood what needed to be done to fix the U.K. and was stabbed in the back by the unelected, unaccountable Deep State for her efforts, which does kind of align with one potential Reform narrative but I don’t think it has had much of a positive impact on her brand domestically. If they lean in to the ‘unshackle the UK’ bit, perhaps. If they’re still promising more public spending by election time, probably not.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:44 (one month ago)
I don't think Starmer/McSweeney will be leading the Labour Party into the next GE. There might be the new Left Party in contention. Could be a new Tory leader, it's hard to see how they can get any worse. I think Green Party will do better than they have ever done previously. The polling could be so different in 4 years, Farage is an old soak who smokes and might even die before then.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:45 (one month ago)
last tory govt is still a toxic brand, also Farage is always keen to kill off any alternative power bases that develop, that's why most of the defections are low-level grunts with 0 charisma.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:52 (one month ago)
Zero charisma?
*sound on* This is Andrea Jenkyns's ACTUAL singing entrance to the Reform UK conference.Utter crackpots. And anyone who thinks this kind of idiotic look-at-me amateurs are how this country will "rediscover its pride" needs to have a lie-down. pic.twitter.com/uI8c1pwTAF— Alex Andreou (@sturdyAlex) September 5, 2025
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:55 (one month ago)
I do think Farage would be kind of tempted by forcing a hostile takeover of the Tories through mass defections or a merger but it’s difficult to tell.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:56 (one month ago)
ffs Farage is only 61 years old. I thought he was much older than that. but he was a very heavy boozer while he was making his fortune in the city apparently, he has looked in his 60's for a decade now. I hope to god he has some underlying health issues.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:57 (one month ago)
Was going to say that Jenkyns is the most charismatic defector, but yes she is very much an oddball and if (when) she starts to get ideas above her station she will be forced out.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:59 (one month ago)
Farage is just the frontman for a bunch of greedy fuckers hoarding their wealth like dragons out in Dubai while they wait for the UK’s total collapse
Do they actually have any policies or even competent politicians beyond him?
― Etherwave, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 10:04 (one month ago)
We get more like the US everyday, hoping someone dies.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 10:07 (one month ago)
The guy walked away from a plane crash, he's a fucking hero (thx nakhchivan).
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 10:08 (one month ago)
don't know why we expect any of these people to have "policies" any more
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 10:13 (one month ago)
He has, famously, just the one bollock.
The plane crash gave him injuries to his spine which remain painful 15 years down the line, but I think he is held together by booze and cigs.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 10:13 (one month ago)
he'll never get to Trump's age, he looks like a stroke just waiting to happen
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 10:16 (one month ago)
A "life-insurance risk", as Alan Clark used to call Kenneth Clarke.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 10:20 (one month ago)
He's alive. 85.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 10:35 (one month ago)
Alan Clark otoh only made it to 71
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 10:43 (one month ago)
and he was a vegetarian!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 10:44 (one month ago)
maybe the stress of having scandalous affairs with "below stairs people" is what finished off Clarke
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 10:51 (one month ago)
I'm still surprised every time I'm reminded how young Farage is. He was still a teenager when the first Run DMC album came out
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 10:57 (one month ago)
(xp) ... Clark you mean, the "pudgy puffball" Clarke is still with us.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 10:57 (one month ago)
She’s spent the last couple of years positioning herself as the only person who really understood what needed to be done to fix the U.K. and was stabbed in the back by the unelected, unaccountable Deep State for her efforts, which does kind of align with one potential Reform narrative but I don’t think it has had much of a positive impact on her brand domestically.
I feel like Truss is far too low effort to matter. I think you can pull off this stuff but without energy and repetition it won't stick.
― anvil, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 10:57 (one month ago)
no Alan Clarke,. Fuck knows how Ken is still alive!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 11:03 (one month ago)
Truss is an embarrassment. Not sure if the thing about her having a public humiliation kink is true, but it's definitely plausible. She won on the basis of looking a bit like she could be Thatcher II, but this illusion was shattered as soon as she started opening her mouth.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 11:07 (one month ago)
If you compare NF to his Dulwich College classmate Jeremy Deller the disparity might make you think creativity from the left keeps you youthful.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 11:08 (one month ago)
Ken Clarke is being kept alive by British-American Tobacco using top secret technology
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 11:09 (one month ago)
Kenneth Clark = TV art historian, father of AlanKenneth Clarke = fat old tory who isn't dead yetKenny Clarke = bebop drummer
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 11:13 (one month ago)
Alan Clark = serial shagger and diarist, son of KennethAlan Clarke = aka Sniffer, centre forward for Revie's Damned UtdAlan Clarke = film director
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 11:20 (one month ago)
I forgot
Allan Clarke = Hollies lead singer
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 11:22 (one month ago)
Feel like that generation of traders all had insanely sybaritic lifestyles and they all look vastly beyond their years as a result.
― Marsee playground (gyac), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 11:25 (one month ago)
it's good that people have expanded their vocabulary of names for male babies beyond the 5 or 6 we had in the mid 20th century
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 11:26 (one month ago)
I forgot there was no E on Clark, Alan. For some reason 20 years ago I found myself reading the Alan Clark Dairies. I think it was from a postal book club or some shit like that. He was a sleazy scumbag who admired Hitler and was very similar to Farage in terms of lack of character and extremity of narcissistic personality disorder.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 11:28 (one month ago)
'film director' the disrespect! 'ever relevant film director' c'mon
― imago, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 11:28 (one month ago)
Ever relevant bebop drummer too.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 11:29 (one month ago)
I can't believe the BBC did a (twee?) Sunday night style dramatization of the Alan Clark Dairies with John Hurt playing him, his reputation as a witty diarist kind of flounders against what an evil vindictive fascist he was. It would have to be an absolute work fiction and filter out the love of Nazism, the sexual assaults, grand corruption (he tried to pull off an illegal embargo busting weapons deal with Iraq while trade minister), meeting with emissaries from the National Front Party "How good they were and how brave [those] who keep alive the tribal essence." etc.. etc..
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 12:01 (one month ago)
A snob whose family started as weavers in Paisley!
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 12:44 (one month ago)
he was targeting his long suffering wife, Jane (as the "perfect victim for him") when she was 14 and he was 28. Even though she was much younger than him, on his deathbed he made her pledge not to ever re-marry. Like what a disgustingly evil freak. Coercive control from the grave!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 13:07 (one month ago)
i would have thought farage's main selling point was sending them back. regardless of how he tries to paint reform, i don't think steady hand competence and real policy vision is what people are getting excited by.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 13:50 (one month ago)
exactly
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 13:53 (one month ago)
Rupert Lowe’s going to send them back even harder. If that is Farage’s main appeal, it’s very easy for him to get outflanked.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 13:54 (one month ago)
to put aside for a moment its extreme repulsiveness as a policy, "send 'em back" is not possible in practical terms, and everyone in politics knows this. farage's administration would be a ram raid and immediate collapse. question is to what extent the country would collapse along with it.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 14:05 (one month ago)
lol yeah imagine if this country's infrastructure went to shit
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 14:07 (one month ago)
it can always get even worse
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 14:13 (one month ago)
MickMcCarthy.gif
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 14:18 (one month ago)
think @FisunGuner mentioned the other day that we've never seen an interview with or even an attributed quote from Morgan McSweeney; anyway turns out this clip at 2:50 from Paul Holden's must-watch @DoubleDownNews video is the only public recording of him: https://t.co/ANT8MrpY6z— bat020 (@bat020) September 23, 2025
just seen Morgan McSweeney talking for the first time. I wonder if it was Mandelson who advised him that he'd be able to play the prince of darkness/unelected enforcer role more effectively if nobody ever saw him.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 14:40 (one month ago)
― ShariVari, Tuesday, September 23, 2025 1:54 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
not really? farage is essentially a celebrity in the uk and that took well over a decade to create with the help of Question time etc. *I* barely know who Rupert Lowe is and my hobby is being outraged by things i read about horrible politicians.
political discourse everywhere seems to be sustained by nothing but fantasy, affect and play-acting. we had a situation where the tories did opposition politics while in power for a long-time during the 2010s. It's run its course for them but whatever media landscape enabled that has only gotten worse (albeit somewhat scrambled). I suspect it will last for farage a long time after getting in regardless of whether he's surrounded by former tories or not. im not sure reality (as NV says "imagine if this country's infrastructure went to shit") really figures.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 14:40 (one month ago)
Send them back but reasonable fellow common sense I don't take any pleasure in it but its for the best
― anvil, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 14:48 (one month ago)
I doubt Lowe is going to come close to Farage's national presence, unless he gets the £100m from Elon Musk he's angling for, but there will be pressure from the right around the idea that Reform isn't extreme enough, it's pretty much the Tory Party in new clothes, Farage is too concerned about big business to fully lean in to 'remigration', etc, which might potentially leach away some of his voters or, alternatively, force him down a path where he's alienating more of the centre. Farage was talking down the number of deportations he was promising (partly prompting the split with Lowe) and has been trying to make much more of a pitch to the 'economically disaffected'. etc.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 15:04 (one month ago)
Lowe is just too fucking weird despite being more idealistically fascist than Farage
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 15:08 (one month ago)
I fully accept that Farage is a ‘celebrity’ and it’s the UK press that has made him so. But honestly just IDGI as to what his appeal is supposed to be?
Boris, for all his faults (of which there were many) was at least funny (haha outrageous funny) during his pre-politics celebrity period
Farage isn’t good-looking, he’s not clever in any way I can sense. His sole appeal seems to be that he’s really, really racist and I just think, you know, it has to take more than that to be a ‘fuck the world, I just want what’s mine’ vote but maybe that is exactly what I just don’t understand. That being a wealthy man who’s become powerful through nothing but corruption and entitlement and knowing the Right People is exactly what vast swathes of the population aspire to
― Etherwave, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 15:09 (one month ago)
His appeal is that he 'owns the libs' apparently, so his fans can think they've got one back on the people that look down on them (the libs). Not sure there's much more to it than that.
― the piss-up in the brewery has sadly been cancelled (Matt #2), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 15:11 (one month ago)
Of course the British mindset is railing against 'elites' then fawning in the mud whenever an actual member of an elite wanders into view, I've never understood it
― the piss-up in the brewery has sadly been cancelled (Matt #2), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 15:12 (one month ago)
One thing that I've found both in the UK and Portugal is people have lost any hope whatsoever that the rich could ever be held accountable, people just see it as a non starter. Which is also why "immigration isn't the reason society it's fucked, it's these other things" has difficulty finding purchase, those other things involve the rich and as such will never change. So within that mindset getting someone like Trump or Farrage on your side is the most you can really hope for - if they are also corrupt and greedy liars well who cares, all elites are, but this guy is going to get something done.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 15:19 (one month ago)
I think a lot of his appeal is the idea that he, by and large, answers questions in a relatively straightforward manner and is perceived as being ‘honest’ in a way that a lot of politicians aren’t - which is relatively simple to do when you have no responsibility, few policies and get an incredibly easy ride from the press. Put him under any pressure, of the sort he got in the US, and he looks like as shifty as the rest of them.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 15:22 (one month ago)
Damn, the guy promising lower taxes, higher spending and no more national debt is polling well, that’s crazy, etc.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 15:24 (one month ago)
Yes, he's hardly ever been pressured by the British media because those cunts think he's a "character" that the proles out there warm to. The same was true of Boris, who got a shamefully easy ride from journalists for year, though at least he was one of them.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 15:51 (one month ago)
Don't think the discourse is particularly policy-based, apart from occasional issues which have a TV show made about them or are emotive as regards a group people believe deserve empathy.
The immigration discourse to me feels more like a way for people to assert their toughness or openness to cruelty as a measure of their individual qualities for the job of national leader.
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 16:15 (one month ago)
Otm
― Marsee playground (gyac), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 16:25 (one month ago)
I think that's true and not true because it doesn't really address how voters connect to all of it (stop the boats etc). I do concede there's a big element of 'i like Simon because he always says what he thinks' though.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 16:49 (one month ago)
A section of voters that fluctuates in size.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 16:50 (one month ago)
I don’t know that I buy it because why is ‘immigration’ the only vector of toughness?
I suppose there’s also ‘tough on crime’ but that’s always a way of demonstrating willingness to show cruelty against poor and/or racialised street criminals rather than toughness against criminally corrupt bankers
It’s like a performative demonstration of how cruel you are prepared to be against the powerless
― Etherwave, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 16:58 (one month ago)
people have lost any hope whatsoever that the rich could ever be held accountable, people just see it as a non starter. Which is also why "immigration isn't the reason society it's fucked, it's these other things" has difficulty finding purchase, those other things involve the rich and as such will never change
this feels wildly otm to me
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 17:01 (one month ago)
a lot of young people seem to have taken to garys economics who is a one issue campaigner for a wealth tax. He is a total prat but it is better he captures their attention rather than flag fucking tik-tok or whatever.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 17:30 (one month ago)
Farage on good form this morning, refusing to condemn Trumps' comments about paracetamol and claiming foreigners are stealing and eating swans from royal parks and carp from people's ponds.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 11:52 (one month ago)
Corbyn has opened up the Your Party membership portal, but nobody seems to understand where that leaves the people who joined last week before the silly old fucker had a huge ego-strop and kiboshed it. Glad I'm not getting involved. Not got the energy for more farce.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 12:06 (one month ago)
great I'm getting an email from the Jez faction: "... now is the time to turn your support into full membership"
already did that once, not doing it again!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 12:10 (one month ago)
zero mention of their previous missive. big old video of jez. no mention of zarah. well done everyone
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 September 2025 12:12 (one month ago)
he's obv been hanging around with these Red Tory landlords for too long if he thinks it ok to charge people twice
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 12:13 (one month ago)
I've never felt more certain that joining the Polanski led Green Party (albeit done in an angry strop last week) was the best possible move under the current circumstances. Cannot deal with these fucking complacent idiots and will not.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 12:16 (one month ago)
so this is just a crude power grab by Corbyn's Peace & Justice Party clique. But he's done it in such a hamfisted way that it's arguably a bigger PR disaster than last week.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 12:30 (one month ago)
There is a Kafka short story in this I think
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 September 2025 12:34 (one month ago)
“the current Labour government is planning to double the amount of time it takes to attain indefinite leave to remain from five to ten years, in a bid to see off the political threat of Reform.”
That should do the trick!
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 September 2025 13:24 (one month ago)
Is this part of the "progressive fightback" they were promising yesterday or is that over already?
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 13:30 (one month ago)
Keir Starmer will make a major intervention this week, pledging a progressive fightback and promising the UK will reject the division and hate...
is this what the Graun sees as progressive now?
lol xped by Tom!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 13:33 (one month ago)
Yeah I got the email and they could have at the very least laid out whether the money people have already given has gone anywhere.
In retrospect the legal fund was a bit this.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 14:40 (one month ago)
Yeah, wonder if anyone at all received that e-mail and went "oh ok, time to join up".
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 14:45 (one month ago)
so many options for the left these days. could get behind burnham in hope he will shift labour left, they could join polanski’s greens, they could sign up for your party last week, they could sign up for your party this week, they could sign up for your party next week— a rare photo of sean connery signed by roger moore (@steamedhamms) September 24, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 September 2025 15:00 (one month ago)
their provisional name now is Which Party
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 15:05 (one month ago)
Top, middle or bottom?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 24 September 2025 15:19 (one month ago)
the new sign up form apparently stipulates that you cannot be a member of another party. honestly fuck this shower
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 15:23 (one month ago)
absolute wankers
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 15:27 (one month ago)
multiple sources close to the process confirming that Sultana and MOU (the holding company controlled by Feinstein, Driscoll, and Winter) were out of the loop, and this was a unilateral launch by Corbyn's people
today's shitshow and last week's has finished Corbyn off for me
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 15:29 (one month ago)
xxps to nv
not heard anything from Corbyn on his video about this, once you've been in the PLP for a lifetime - lies and platitudes will flow very easily
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 15:32 (one month ago)
yeah i watched the Corbyn video and this wasn't mentioned, of course. you'd think maybe he'd want to explain it.
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 15:39 (one month ago)
as Mikey says, it's a shame we didn't see this ruthless, backstabbing element to Corbyn's game 2015-19
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 15:40 (one month ago)
yeah. i mean i despise the SWP as much as the next person but i don't think this is about that
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 15:41 (one month ago)
someone posted this is probably Karin Murphy's work, a Labour Party brained tyrant who wants just another fucking shit party because she doesn't know any other way
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 15:49 (one month ago)
Corbyn stitching up the leadership structure of a new party so we can "fight the rigged system"!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 15:51 (one month ago)
I'll actually be upset if he has a huge intake of members, really hope it bombs for him.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 15:54 (one month ago)
Current administration will be laughing their arses off at all this, what a risible failure (to date)
― In den Gärten Pharage (Matt #2), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 15:56 (one month ago)
lol there is absolutely no way this will lead to a huge intake of members, how could it?
also don't really understand why Sultana is sticking with this project tbh
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 15:58 (one month ago)
she's been silent so far today, I think?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 16:00 (one month ago)
yes, that is part of the problem!
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 16:04 (one month ago)
𝘵𝘸𝘰 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘺 𝘮𝘦𝘮𝘣𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱 𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘴, 𝘪𝘯 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘳 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘰𝘯𝘢 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘭𝘢𝘺 𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘴𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘦— JJ 🇵🇸 (@boringdystopian) September 24, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 16:07 (one month ago)
This is like when gregg launched Our Cinema but not as slick
― GY!BP (wins), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 16:10 (one month ago)
For those who joined under the previous system last week, please be assured your data and membership is secure and will be migrated across. There is nothing more for you to do at this stage.— Your Party (@thisisyourparty) September 24, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 16:23 (one month ago)
But, everyone was told to cancel their direct debits.....?
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 September 2025 16:24 (one month ago)
So I guess everybody who joined the Zarah intake get free membership wahey
yay there was another tweet minutes before this saying you need to cancel your MOU subscription and reapply through Your Party's official portal that was launched today, and it was deleted literally minutes ago 🤡
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 16:26 (one month ago)
ZS has retweeted that btw..xp
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 September 2025 16:27 (one month ago)
get out of this party, Zarah. You could do a lot better that than this shitshow that *checks notes* I'm apparently a member of!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 16:37 (one month ago)
now for a frosty glass of piss pic.twitter.com/fssBmhGOSf— joolsd (@joolsd) September 24, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 17:53 (one month ago)
I’m a member of Your Party - and if you haven’t joined yet, you should too.I’ll remain a fierce advocate for the grassroots – and will continue to fight hard for maximum member democracy.For those who joined the previous system: data and membership will be migrated across in…— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) September 24, 2025
bloomin' eck she's actually posted something
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 17:58 (one month ago)
I'm not exactly transported by enthusiasm
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 18:45 (one month ago)
zarah calm down your too excited
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 18:46 (one month ago)
Is this her saying she's not actually involved beyond being a member? Who knows what the next episode of Your Party will reveal?!
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 24 September 2025 18:48 (one month ago)
It sounds like she’s now dedicated to fighting this new party she’s a member of to try to force them to be democratic?
― crisp, Wednesday, 24 September 2025 18:52 (one month ago)
Maybe I don't really wanna knowHow your garden grows'Cause I just wanna flyLately, did you ever feel the painIn the morning rainAs it soaks you to the bone?Maybe I just wanna flyWanna live, I don't wanna dieMaybe I just wanna breatheMaybe I just don't believeMaybe you're the same as meWe see things they'll never seeYou and I are gonna live foreverI said maybe I don't really wanna knowHow your garden grows'Cause I just wanna flyLately, did you ever feel the painIn the morning rainAs it soaks you to the bone?Maybe I will never beAll the things that I wanna beNow is not the time to cryNow's the time to find out whyI think you're the same as meWe see things they'll never seeYou and I are gonna live foreverMaybe I don't really wanna knowHow your garden grows'Cause I just wanna flyLately, did you ever feel the painIn the morning rainAs it soaks you to the bone?Maybe I just wanna flyWanna live, I don't wanna dieMaybe I just wanna breatheMaybe I just don't believeMaybe you're the same as meWe see things they'll never seeYou and I are gonna live foreverGonna live foreverGonna live foreverWe're gonna live foreverGonna live foreverGonna live foreverGonna live forever
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 September 2025 18:54 (one month ago)
Just join the Green Party, Zarah.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 18:57 (one month ago)
This is a boys’ club — and you should get in on the ground floor, where the boys at the top have just sent me!
― GY!BP (wins), Wednesday, 24 September 2025 18:58 (one month ago)
lmao
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 September 2025 20:53 (one month ago)
Starmer's Head of Comms has quit, possibly in the name of stability
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 September 2025 15:13 (one month ago)
whooah.. the little fraudulent piece of shit should be looking at a prison sentence. This was fucking election corruption on a huge scale.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 September 2025 15:19 (one month ago)
goodbye worst Irish diaspora of the last decade.. you'll soon be forgotten
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 September 2025 15:20 (one month ago)
all these people jumping before it gets really gnarly.. what courage eh? real commitment to starmer's "political project" (narrator: there was no political project)
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 September 2025 15:23 (one month ago)
when the previously-labelled good and clever things start to become bad and corrupt things, that's when the whole edifice is about to fall. Starmer surely can't last long now.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 September 2025 15:25 (one month ago)
worried i'm gonna get wrinkles from smiling this much
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 September 2025 15:28 (one month ago)
might just be a distraction from the plan to chip and pin every citizen of the UK tho
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 September 2025 15:30 (one month ago)
Not this one again
Keir Starmer is expected to set out plans for every adult to have digital ID cards in an attempt to tackle illegal migration to the UK.
― In den Gärten Pharage (Matt #2), Thursday, 25 September 2025 15:30 (one month ago)
same media that previously reported that Starmer was like a wee kid sat at the front of a DLR train with a train driver hat on saying McSweeney is bravely protecting the project
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 September 2025 15:31 (one month ago)
I sense the hand of Yum Yum.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 September 2025 15:33 (one month ago)
be fair, this will be popular right across the political spectrum
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 September 2025 15:37 (one month ago)
the level of unquestioning loyalty that Yum Yum expects from one of his creatures, even in the face of deadly serious paedo issues is very Trumpian and his cold-blooded ruthlessness is as well.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 September 2025 15:38 (one month ago)
Patrick Maguire@patrickkmaguireBig problem for Keir Starmer is that there are fewer and fewer people in No 10 who know him properly and understand – like? – him personally. This departure a prime example. Right now I'm struggling to get my list higher than two.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 September 2025 15:54 (one month ago)
maybe they're quitting because they know him properly and understand him personally
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 September 2025 15:57 (one month ago)
oh bollox, it's Steph Driver who has walked. I thought youse meant McSweeney!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 September 2025 16:02 (one month ago)
So did I. The time will surely come though.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 September 2025 16:04 (one month ago)
he's clearly the Goebbels in this bunker. well tbf Kieth is probably the Goebbels
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 September 2025 16:06 (one month ago)
Poor gruel from Bush. Lab have to come up with a strong plan to at least do some of the below or they are toast.
https://archive.ph/SNHoS
"In policy terms, nothing that Burnham is proposing — nationalisation of housing, energy, water, rail and buses, further wealth taxes — gets close to fixing the various problems facing the UK that is currently overwhelming the Labour government (in case you missed it, Jen Williams discussed some of the other weaknesses in this newsletter last week). At risk of sounding like a stuck record, it really is as simple as this: David Cameron and George Osborne handed significant and meaningful tax cuts to low and middle earners, and if you want to unpick any of the reductions in public services since then, you have to be willing to unpick those tax changes. The UK really is facing higher borrowing costs than its peers! These are real constraints."
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 September 2025 16:57 (one month ago)
Stephen Bush referencing Jen Williams lmao, enjoy the country you helped foist on everyone else guys!
― Marsee playground (gyac), Thursday, 25 September 2025 17:09 (one month ago)
idk if everyone is going to have to pay more tax if they want to have better public services’ is all that controversial, in principle, even if it’s unappealing politically.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 25 September 2025 18:09 (one month ago)
voters in most countries express a willingness (in polls at least) to sacrifice financially for Big Things if the case is made and the benefits are clear. but uh gl w that with this pm and party
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 September 2025 19:00 (one month ago)
I think this might be Starmer’s poll tax. You think the anti-migrant right wants to carry digital ID? They want the migrants to carry them. pic.twitter.com/xAhuHzJRYP— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) September 25, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 September 2025 19:14 (one month ago)
radio 4 news bulletin at 7pm led with the compulsory digital id nonsense, the next two headlines were about cyber hacking. also fuck off with being required to carry a smartphone to access stuff.
― oscar bravo, Thursday, 25 September 2025 20:20 (one month ago)
is it actually going to be called a ‘britcard’? fuck off
― ||||||||, Thursday, 25 September 2025 20:30 (one month ago)
https://bsky.app/profile/eleanormorton.bsky.social/post/3lzoodcqhns2e
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 25 September 2025 20:37 (one month ago)
Trying to save his premiership with a policy that nobody likes (other than some minute minority of Blair institute adjacent gestapo freaks), that will more than likely finish him off. This really is the definition of fuhrerbunker psychosis, governance just completely stranded from reality. National ID cards has never been popular in the UK, not even with the lads with flags. Yet another gift to Farage or just any political party with a reasonable amount of respect for the continuation of basic civil liberties. Just fucking die already you useless flailing flabby red-faced piece of shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 26 September 2025 06:08 (one month ago)
"let's just do all the most unworkable, most unpopular, most fucking authoritarian policy-fail ideas from late Blairism (when they were finished) or just copy Reform (quelle difference tbf)" ^^^
The *strategic genius* of McSweeney is nothing more nuanced than this
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 26 September 2025 06:21 (one month ago)
How is that progressive fightback coming along?
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Friday, 26 September 2025 06:47 (one month ago)
lol, I'm thinking the national ID cards scheme is what they meant by "Progressive Fightback". That is how cooked their brains are.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 26 September 2025 06:53 (one month ago)
Apparently this will make it easier for employers to ensure they are employing people who have a right to work in the UK. Of course employers who employ people who have no right to work in the UK don't fucking care that they have no right to work in the UK but perish the thought they go after employers and business.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Friday, 26 September 2025 07:11 (one month ago)
Look, I just ticked the box for Nice Sensible Politics Daddy, I had no idea I was voting for Mandelson, Deloitte, Palantir, private healthcare lobbyists, Cayman Island hedge funds and the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change, despite people telling me this repeatedly pic.twitter.com/V1G0zVCYUq— The Pat McFaddens (@TheIDSmiths) September 26, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 26 September 2025 07:20 (one month ago)
will posters need a britcard to post itt
― ||||||||, Friday, 26 September 2025 08:21 (one month ago)
already loaded into my phone mate, got it yesterday
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 September 2025 08:23 (one month ago)
Would Scottish posters be happy with a scotcard?
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 September 2025 08:25 (one month ago)
10% off gregg's and a closer seat at the executions
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 September 2025 08:25 (one month ago)
10% off a pint of Cruzcampo at participating venues
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 September 2025 08:48 (one month ago)
https://t.co/kP7EFh7wIR pic.twitter.com/00OQSynCdA— Hon. PolProf of Agile Ceremonies (@CeilNoyle) September 26, 2025
officially the most mendacious, insincere cunt to ever exist in UK politics
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 26 September 2025 08:55 (one month ago)
add it to the list of promises he made during the leadership election
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 September 2025 09:21 (one month ago)
Woodhouse Park (Manchester) Council By-Election Result:🌍 GRN: 43.8% (-15.4)➡️ RFM: 29.5% (New)🌹 LAB: 20.5% (-12.9)🌳 CON: 3.8% (-1.1)🔶 LDM: 2.5% (-0.2)Green HOLD.Changes w/ 2024.— Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) September 25, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 September 2025 09:55 (one month ago)
I guess the argument would be that voter ID inconveniences anyone who doesn’t have a current passport, driving license, pension card, etc, which you can get around by making a form of ID mandatory and universal (by inconveniencing anyone who doesn’t have a mobile phone).
― ShariVari, Friday, 26 September 2025 10:09 (one month ago)
it would actually solve my lack of any voting ID problem. But I would actually prefer to work through that problem rather than have Kieth do it with some sinister national ID scheme!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 26 September 2025 10:21 (one month ago)
It really does look like almost everyone across the political spectrum thinks it’s a terrible idea. Will that stop them?
― ShariVari, Friday, 26 September 2025 10:22 (one month ago)
Its tough for many people but there is much more to go for a lot of the population, and gets to why ppl haven't gone out to the streets. We are far from a failed state.
Actual failed state stuff, and all because we basically gave up having an actual economy in the 1980s. pic.twitter.com/HPOd5IGskN— Marl Karx (@BareLeft) September 25, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 September 2025 10:24 (one month ago)
Between the ID policy, the budget and local/Welsh/Scot election results netx year Starmer is gone, which is not surprising and yet incredible given their majority.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 September 2025 10:26 (one month ago)
just the absolute epitome of a stuffed suit, which everyone of course pointed out in real time
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 September 2025 10:39 (one month ago)
This is really good btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl4eSBP2cd8
― imago, Friday, 26 September 2025 10:40 (one month ago)
I wonder if Starmer will just straight up pull the ID card thing from the speech today and pretend it was never going to happen. You’d probably need the Mail on board, at minimum, and they are currently calling it ‘a dystopian nightmare’.
― ShariVari, Friday, 26 September 2025 10:46 (one month ago)
Ah, too late - has already done it.
― ShariVari, Friday, 26 September 2025 10:48 (one month ago)
Menzies Campbell has died at the age of 174
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 September 2025 10:50 (one month ago)
how can they tell?
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 26 September 2025 11:08 (one month ago)
As I have surely mentioned before, it's a bit weird in retrospect that Rory Bremner's impersonations of Menzies Campbell when he was leader of Liberals, were all based on him being an ancient old codger when, in fact, he was only 65!
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Friday, 26 September 2025 11:33 (one month ago)
Yeah! um,. yeah..
― Mark G, Friday, 26 September 2025 11:38 (one month ago)
"You will not be able to work in the United Kingdom if you do not have digital ID"
I'm sure this will be fine
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 September 2025 11:39 (one month ago)
the hand car wash behind the dodgy garage on the side of the trunk road near by house are surely shitting themselves at this news
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 26 September 2025 11:45 (one month ago)
it's the end of an era, as the last living person to have had sexual relations with Queen Victoria passes
― Sgt. Biscuits, Friday, 26 September 2025 11:47 (one month ago)
1,570,576 signatures on the anti-digital ID cards petition and it has just shot up by a thousand in the seconds after I c+ped that figure. This is not just something that has always been universally unpopular in the UK but also I like to think it's an entire nation basically saying fuck off and die Kieth and your corrupt little maggot McSweeney, both of you fuck off and die!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 06:09 (one month ago)
wow, it has gone up by ten thousand in the last 20 minutes, probably will be the biggest one since the futile revoke article 50 one. These petitions are all futile of course. But got to get behind a resounding "fuck off and die, Kieth" petition.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 06:33 (one month ago)
Brit Card is bad enough but having to listen to months of "all the other countries have them", "loads of companies already have your personal data" and "if you've got nothing to hide then there's no problem" is the real invasion of privacy
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 September 2025 07:10 (one month ago)
people be like "oh no Reform will inherit this" but tbh the current government would be more likely to introduce Brit Social Credit if they hung around long enough
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 September 2025 07:13 (one month ago)
lolling at Paul Mason, making some barely even specious arguments for massive civil rights violations by big tech/rogue governments and making a complete cunt out of himself (again). This is how curdled your brain has to be to be a Starmer loyalist.
Nandy was trying to walk back the BritCard thing, oh no of course we'd never call it that in NI because that would be problematic.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 07:18 (one month ago)
just the fact that the very worst monsters in journalism and politics - ok, neither of those things in Mason's case - are behind this tells you everything you need to know
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 September 2025 07:23 (one month ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1zp5Z6W0AEAXIH?format=jpg&name=900x900
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 07:50 (one month ago)
I wonder if this was all agreed last year as part of a balance of trade conversation re: the ‘digital trade deal’ with the US.
Polling seems to be more evenly split than I’d expected but the number of ‘strongly opposed’ is far, far higher than ‘strongly in favour’.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2025/09/26/aaac5/1
They’d probably have done better just calling it a ‘right to work card’ or similar but idk if that would significantly impact the number of people who think they’re going to be permabanned from gainful employment for misgendering a Starbucks barista or whatever.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 27 September 2025 09:33 (one month ago)
the lovely Emma B’s reaction was so what, everybody has these in Europe. i was like, you say that like it’s a good thing
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 27 September 2025 09:34 (one month ago)
BritCard - brought to you by Palantir.All part of a repression ready, gift-wrapped surveillance state for Farage to pick up and run with.Remember kids - authoritarianism is OK when it has a friendly font 👌🏾 pic.twitter.com/NTz17XAxvq— Clive Lewis MP (@labourlewis) June 6, 2025
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 27 September 2025 09:41 (one month ago)
the anti-petition is well on course for 2 million signatures by dinnertime
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 09:42 (one month ago)
tbh I think the data privacy concerns are probably a bit overstated but the issue with ID cards is mostly about the circumstances under which you are obliged to show them. If it’s purely at the point you’re applying for a job, , replacing other forms of proof you’re already obliged to have, that’s one thing, if you need to show entitlement to access healthcare or other essential services, or the police have the right to stop you in the street to prove you have the right to be there absent of any other reason, that’s another. It’s also guaranteed to be a massive waste of money.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 27 September 2025 09:45 (one month ago)
the question I would ask Clive Lewis is: how come he has never lost the whip? I think the answer to that would be found in his parliamentary voting/abstention record that won't be as rebellious (or dumb as fuck) as his twitter posts are at times.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 09:51 (one month ago)
It should be noted that there is no national American ID card, and the Americans behind this could be doing a test run in the UK for the ‘papers, please’ environment they want for the US.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 27 September 2025 09:55 (one month ago)
There are certainly state ID cards though - it is next to impossible to live a functional life in the US without a driver's license
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 27 September 2025 09:57 (one month ago)
I don't the yougov polling on digital ID has given people enough time to take in the corruption of the current UK govt and how much in hock to corporate interests they are and then have a rethink of their suitability to roll out a digital ID scheme. Just a few seconds more thought on it and a few more days of Starmer being PM and then they will start hating it with a passion and hate everything about it will be a clear majority by miles.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 10:01 (one month ago)
Keir Starmer has tasked a Conservative peer with writing a new planning bill to remove the ability for environmental groups to delay projects such as Heathrow’s third runway with judicial reviews.The Guardian understands that leaving the Aarhus convention is being discussed as an option. This is an international treaty signed up to by the EU and other countries in Europe, which protects the right for campaigners to bring legal claims against large infrastructure projects such as waste plants, nuclear power stations and motorways.
The Guardian understands that leaving the Aarhus convention is being discussed as an option. This is an international treaty signed up to by the EU and other countries in Europe, which protects the right for campaigners to bring legal claims against large infrastructure projects such as waste plants, nuclear power stations and motorways.
with progressive fightbacks like this, who needs enemies?
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 27 September 2025 10:10 (one month ago)
look, taking steps to ensure the planet is liveable for human beings in a hundred years time is the old politics
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 September 2025 10:14 (one month ago)
I think he genuinely believes the housing crisis is nothing to do with dwindling social housing stocks or laissez faire landlordism. No it's just a supply issue caused by environmental groups, planning regs and nimbyism. That's his deep take.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 10:15 (one month ago)
State ID is different in nature to a full-nation card (and you don’t need to drive to get state ID).
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 27 September 2025 10:20 (one month ago)
all the people who are supporting this (I don't care for anything Farage says, even if he's somehow right) are the worst bunch of wankers in the UK. The same people who have been wrong about everything, for decades in some cases.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 10:34 (one month ago)
they should get Peter Kyle to say that anyone who doesn't support Kieth's national ID card scheme is a paedophile enabler!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 10:46 (one month ago)
Creeping authoritarianism while you’re keeping the far right’s seat warm seems to be Starmers big thing but I’m also getting the vibe of sunak at the end coming out with shit like bringing back national service, feels desperate
― GY!BP (wins), Saturday, 27 September 2025 10:52 (one month ago)
https://i.imgur.com/E3R9ctr.png
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 27 September 2025 12:00 (one month ago)
A tweet for the day:
"lmao Your Party have completely fucked the record of my first month's membership fee and are trying to get me to pay it a second time. you simply have to laugh"
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 September 2025 15:51 (one month ago)
buy two clown party memberships and you get free raffle tickets for the opportunity to win a signed Corbyn portrait!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 16:14 (one month ago)
Anyone covering/interested in digital ID would be well advised to look for insight on it anywhere but X. Yet another example of where this site/online right opinion is fevered/way off the beat with the public.Guess who need digital/reliable ID most? Those in poverty.— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) September 26, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 16:40 (one month ago)
Tone Langengen? morelike tone deaf, amirite?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 16:44 (one month ago)
I'm sure I've got that on a CD by Wolfgang Rihm.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 September 2025 16:47 (one month ago)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 16:51 (one month ago)
George Galloway detained at airport under Terrorism Act
I'm no fan of GG, in fact I despise him. but wtf is going on here?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 16:56 (one month ago)
he was apparently returning on a flight from Moscow
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 17:16 (one month ago)
Did Keir Starmer give land to his parents via a trust, guaranteeing their estate, of which he was beneficiary, would never pay inheritance tax on its eventual value? Legal experts say yes. Curiously No10 will not answer - despite having a list of straightforward questions for…— Gabriel Pogrund (@Gabriel_Pogrund) September 27, 2025
dirt on Starmer trickling out again before the Holden book comes out
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 18:21 (one month ago)
get him
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 27 September 2025 18:41 (one month ago)
Complete guess but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was for the same reason as Tommy Robinson - refusal to give over his mobile phone when asked by border police.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 27 September 2025 18:50 (one month ago)
it's always good to hear some different perspective to the usual Matt Kennard histrionics!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 19:32 (one month ago)
Lewis Goodall’s wife works for Blair.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 27 September 2025 19:41 (one month ago)
oh yes she does, but obv I'll take in good faith any of his takes on anything pushed hard by the Blair Institute. Because he's a winner!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 19:46 (one month ago)
New from @Ipsos_in_the_UK Keir Starmer is the most unpopular PM in the history of Ipsos polling. Net satisfaction with PM -66Meanwhile Reform lead at 12.Reform 34Labour 22Conservatives 14 (record low)Lib Dems 12Greens 12 pic.twitter.com/YTZ3UvvJXt— Keiran Pedley (@keiranpedley) September 27, 2025
2,010,216 signatures against ShitCard so far
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 20:21 (one month ago)
FUNNY THAT😡😡So the Britcard will be run on an App made by Multiverse, a multi national company founded by EUAN BLAIR!Yep, son of the four-faced war mongering LIAR, Tony Blair. His shares are about a £375m. 1/2 pic.twitter.com/eGueywk27n— H (@AuntieBoooog) September 26, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 September 2025 20:55 (one month ago)
Tax the rich isn't socialism.
Want to hear more about what the Green Party is offering?Watch the full interview with @ZackPolanski on our YouTube, or listen wherever you get your pods. #PodSaveTheUK #Politics #UK #Socialism #YourParty pic.twitter.com/4qrFSSvwxa— Pod Save the UK (@podsavetheuk) September 27, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 September 2025 09:19 (one month ago)
https://news.sky.com/story/more-than-half-of-labour-members-do-not-want-starmer-to-lead-party-into-next-general-election-poll-13439467
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 September 2025 09:22 (one month ago)
Corbyn isn't fit to lead a socialist party (and trying to form one with socially conservative landlord scum at the top tier of the party is a complete non-starter) so at the moment for me Polanski is the next best option. Forming a socialist party around a celebrity cult with the same shady characters who ran his project into ground last time. Fuck that shit!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 September 2025 09:44 (one month ago)
Yeah for sure, not joining anything until its clear what the processes are.
Its just that Polanski's answer is annoying.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 September 2025 09:52 (one month ago)
lol I find Corbyn much more annoying these days. That Corbyn was willing to make a shady fucker like Schneider his head of comms for Your Party tells me Corbyn is either a total fucking idiot who has learned nothing from the last decade or he's not an honest political operator.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 September 2025 09:54 (one month ago)
Some things I have read about Schneider inform me that his wife being a Starmer aide is actually one of the least worrisome things about him!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 September 2025 10:04 (one month ago)
Bernie Sanders isn't a socialist either (or Corbyn for that matter), its purely figurative
― anvil, Sunday, 28 September 2025 10:27 (one month ago)
the way Corbyn has been conducting himself pretty much confirms he is as much as a socialist as Boaby G is! I feel like he has been a blind spot for me. But of course when someone seems the only glimmer of hope in politics, you don't see things clearly and this can go on for years.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 September 2025 10:30 (one month ago)
I think the things happening around Corbyn-led era Labour were pointing out towards a more socialist politics to play out overtime. He was just someone to congregate around for those four years.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 September 2025 10:34 (one month ago)
I feel like because Labour had been so shit decades there was a strong element of feeling very fortunate to have managed to elect someone like Corbyn into party leadership. But forming a new party requires you to raise those fucking expectations a little bit higher!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 September 2025 10:37 (one month ago)
I know a Corbyn-led bureaucratic left party is a non-starter. But saying "people don't know what socialism is means I will talk about bills" won't cut it when they may need to widen their politics beyond just 'Green'.
Though the state of climate change might be such that Green politics will be the only thing in three years time.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 September 2025 10:44 (one month ago)
the way Corbyn has been conducting himself pretty much confirms he is as much as a socialist as Boaby G is!
Holl' you, leave mah name oot o' this stramash!
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 September 2025 11:06 (one month ago)
Your Party: This is your unique link to join as a member.
yeah, er lads I did already actually join 12 days ago ... but yeah fuck off now.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 September 2025 19:29 (one month ago)
Reeves announcing a bold new plan to fix the economy, yes it's workfare, again.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 29 September 2025 08:09 (one month ago)
current number of job vacancies - 720,000current number of people classed as unemployed - 1.5 million+
yeah that'll fix it
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 September 2025 08:33 (one month ago)
does she ever wonder why nobody likes her and why her PM has a historically low approval rating? Maybe going a bit more unnecessarily cruel and right-wing will be the charm.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 September 2025 08:40 (one month ago)
yeah buts its all good lads, supporting reform doesnt make you a racist, like how supporting the nazis didnt make you an anti-semite rmde
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 29 September 2025 08:42 (one month ago)
xp dig up, stupid!
― Marsee playground (gyac), Monday, 29 September 2025 08:43 (one month ago)
Your Party conference does not sound good.
It's entirely disingenuous on the part of whoever suggested it. 13,000 delegates is about creating a mirage of mass democratic participation whilst guaranteeing mass disempowerment. Ultimately, this many delegates empowers those asking the questions, not those answering them. https://t.co/CsGTdhirF6— Max Shanly (@maxshanly) September 29, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 September 2025 08:47 (one month ago)
I have shifted so massively on Corbyn now I'm starting to think the only useful thing about the Corbyn Party (let's not pretend it is anything else) is it becoming a sink for stupid Corbyn cultists, cranks, bigots, MI6 operatives, transphobes, socialist landlords of the UK left etc.. and let the project run into the ground (as it will) while someone starts a real new Left party.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 September 2025 09:00 (one month ago)
not read anything about the membership take up since it was confirmed as a Corbyn vehicle.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 September 2025 09:09 (one month ago)
a master of political communication at work
Reeves says people can support racist policy without being racist, in reference to PM's comment about Reform UKFerrari asks about what Keir Starmer said yesterday about Reform UK’s plan to end indefinite leave to remain being racist.Q: Does supporting that policy make someone racist?No, says Reeves.Q: So you can support a racist policy but not be racist.Reeves says it is a racist policy.Q: But how can you support a racist policy and not be racist?Reeves says people support Reform UK for all sorts of reasons.Ferrari says he does not see how you can support a racist policy and not be racist.Reeves says she is not sure lots of people do support this policy. She says:I think there are lots of people who back Reform would be horrified by the thought that people who came to this country legally, are working and contributing, will be deported from this country. And we had to call out Reform for their policies. And this is a racist policy, and it’s a bad for our country, and we need to call that out.
Ferrari asks about what Keir Starmer said yesterday about Reform UK’s plan to end indefinite leave to remain being racist.
Q: Does supporting that policy make someone racist?
No, says Reeves.
Q: So you can support a racist policy but not be racist.
Reeves says it is a racist policy.
Q: But how can you support a racist policy and not be racist?
Reeves says people support Reform UK for all sorts of reasons.
Ferrari says he does not see how you can support a racist policy and not be racist.
Reeves says she is not sure lots of people do support this policy. She says:
I think there are lots of people who back Reform would be horrified by the thought that people who came to this country legally, are working and contributing, will be deported from this country. And we had to call out Reform for their policies. And this is a racist policy, and it’s a bad for our country, and we need to call that out.
― starring jean-claude van damme as paving mctasel (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 September 2025 10:04 (one month ago)
All in that horrible voice like a creaky door.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Monday, 29 September 2025 10:33 (one month ago)
idk if she’s wrong exactly but she’s missing an incredibly easy lay-up. Seems like the Chancellor should be able to come up with something along the lines of ‘it’s possible that some people will believe Reform when they say cancelling ILR will save £200bn, despite this figure being retracted by the organisation that came up with it, when in fact it would cost X, Y and Z in terms of lost economic growth, etc, etc’.
― ShariVari, Monday, 29 September 2025 10:36 (one month ago)
you've got to love the classic Labourism of Shabana Mahmood telling a Sun journalist, while at a Liverpool conference that Thatcher is her political hero.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 September 2025 10:42 (one month ago)
seeing that the top headline is that potential starmzy replacement andy b wants to go back into europe makes me want to jump out of the window at the inevitable future brexit 2 bollox awaiting us, whether it makes the country better or not.
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 29 September 2025 15:08 (one month ago)
"aspirational socialism" is just one of the most nauseating attempts at centre-left political branding, especially from Mr Eyebrows who was a total Blairite robot.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 September 2025 15:27 (one month ago)
obv the best party for a 2nd Referendum group to join would be the Corbyn Party right now
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 September 2025 15:36 (one month ago)
Never mind Andy Burnham, Steve Reed is clearly running. His red ‘Build, Baby, Build’ baseball caps are the Labour conference merch of choice
you've got to be fucking kidding
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 September 2025 15:49 (one month ago)
guys i saw Tony Blair today
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 September 2025 15:57 (one month ago)
i was just walking down the street and my friend goes whoa and we both look up and Tony fuckin War Crimes has just gotten out of a black Land Rover with three goons and he actually gives us a little nod and flashes a smile??! and then gets bundled into the side entrance of a massive building which i think is his “Institute”
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 September 2025 15:59 (one month ago)
his face looks like it’s been carved from some great bleached bone
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 September 2025 16:00 (one month ago)
I've never been that close to pure satanic evil
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 September 2025 16:15 (one month ago)
This is from an interview with John Curtice:
"He added that "clearly, if by 2029 the economy is turned around and if by 2029 the waiting lists are way, way back down", Labour might be able to recover its position.But he also cast doubt on whether Sir Keir would be able to capitalise on such a situation, saying he had cast himself as "the friendly local plumber" fixing issues with "policy pipes", when voters really wanted their leaders to be "the architect of Valhalla".Sir John said: "You need to do more than change the reality, you also have to influence perception.
But he also cast doubt on whether Sir Keir would be able to capitalise on such a situation, saying he had cast himself as "the friendly local plumber" fixing issues with "policy pipes", when voters really wanted their leaders to be "the architect of Valhalla".
Sir John said: "You need to do more than change the reality, you also have to influence perception.
Altering reality or shaping events is something that someone like Trump tries to do, and Starmer just doesn't see it at all as a thing, which is strange for a PM but its true for May and Sunak as well.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 September 2025 16:35 (one month ago)
Tracer, where was this? In town or…
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 29 September 2025 17:00 (one month ago)
My condolences on not having had enough time to answer Blair's smile by flipping him off or at least replying with a thumbs down.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 29 September 2025 17:30 (one month ago)
about time somebody called Burnham the Kieth in the North
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 September 2025 17:36 (one month ago)
i had several “Wot Do You Call It? Genocide” stickers in my left coat pocket, it would have been great to get one on his Land Rover but my brain scrambled.
suzy this was on like… Langham St? Riding House St? one of those
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 September 2025 19:49 (one month ago)
Was Reef's Place Your Hands playing as he got out of the vehicle?
― LocalGarda, Monday, 29 September 2025 19:51 (one month ago)
imgur now blocked in the UK, thanks Keith
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 29 September 2025 22:06 (one month ago)
Still working for me?
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 29 September 2025 22:12 (one month ago)
Not for me..
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 09:27 (one month ago)
Getting a 400 “Content not available in your region." error here.
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 09:54 (one month ago)
Why is it blocked?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 09:56 (one month ago)
To make us all safer innit
― GY!BP (wins), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 10:02 (one month ago)
(Presumably Imgur didn’t want to jump through all the hoops)
Yes, it's gone.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 10:09 (one month ago)
I had my VPN on last night. But pointing to UK.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 10:17 (one month ago)
that a fucking idiot like Nadine Dorries was let loose to draft most of this terrible legislation is not the worst thing. It's Labour putting their parliamentary majority behind this stupid bill and Peter Kyle calling any critics paedo enablers.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 10:18 (one month ago)
https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/media-centre/news-and-blogs/2025/09/statement-update-on-imgur-investigation/
seems to be that imgur were fined over some breach of the data protection act (as best as i can tell something about doing targeted advertising without attempting to be sure they're not profiling under 13s), not the online safety act, so they've decided to geoblock the uk because they don't want to go to the effort of compliance
that sounds at least like it's just the uk implementation of gdpr stuff that they're in trouble over so i wonder why the eu hasn't gone after them too
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 12:45 (one month ago)
it's totally out of order that you can't blame this on Kieth
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 13:08 (one month ago)
i can and i will
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 15:12 (one month ago)
This is the most depressing fucking thing I've read in ages.
Lambeth Council trying to crowdfund their next round of 'budget cuts challenge'. 'Of all these vital council services, pick only 3 to keep'
https://haveyoursay.lambeth.gov.uk/en-GB/projects/budget-consultation-2026-27/surveys/new?phase_id=f6b4a892-3b61-4515-9394-c0c6623a3d93
(I already know most of the money is going straight into the pockets of private landlords for 'temporary' accommodation)
What the fuck is wrong with these people?
― Etherwave, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 15:21 (one month ago)
Starmer's hijacked version of the Labour Party have now done this...
Owen Jones kicked out of Labour conference as party revokes his passhttps://leftfootforward.org/2025/09/owen-jones-kicked-out-of-labour-conference-as-party-revokes-his-pass/
― djmartian, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 15:48 (one month ago)
xp I believe its called austerity
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 15:51 (one month ago)
they are just helping OJ with his cover story so he can get to work on undermining another political project led by Corbyn. Not that Corbyn needs much help!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 16:08 (one month ago)
I actually just filled out that Lambeth survey :[Too many options and some overlapped but ultimately caring for vulnerable children, adults and the disabled (which should include housing and healthcare) seemed like the three biggest priorities (but I consider it one).
― nashwan, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 16:11 (one month ago)
Once the Greens win in Lambeth it will be interesting to see what they can do. They will be hampered in many ways but how do the more progressive councils approach this will be a question.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 16:18 (one month ago)
Austerity as an online Google docs survey ffs
Lambeth probably thinks this is ‘engagement’ with the public!
I don’t know why this has made me so spitting mad but there’s something so coldly inhuman about putting this up for an online vote like this
― Etherwave, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 16:20 (one month ago)
As a Lambeth resident they have often done these consultations. The council is simply a horror show from start to finish so yeah I'm struggling to see it, because "conversations" around killing your services, and maybe you too, is the only thing they know.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 16:25 (one month ago)
Literally "Miniature flags for all!" at Labour Conference I see. Clowns.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 16:33 (one month ago)
when a local council proposes a consultation, then get ready for losing vital services. It's a fucking dread-inducing word these days.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 16:37 (one month ago)
between all the flags and the "build baby, build" maga style hats, what a bunch of ugly freaks
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 16:39 (one month ago)
They have already decided their cuts, obviously.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 16:42 (one month ago)
Abdi Duale, who’s chairing this session on Gaza, is a lobbyist for arms and tech companies profiting from the genocide. How is that not a blatant conflict of interest? https://t.co/txxQaNxgAc— Karl Hansen (@karl_fh) September 30, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 17:04 (one month ago)
A man who started a vigilante group to ‘protect women and children’ has admitted carrying out a shocking attack on his former partner.Reece McCarron started his controversial patrol group ‘The Corby Guard’ just three weeks ago, claiming he and his pals were carrying out public protection duties, to widespread public condemnation. He has also been responsible for putting up some of the town’s lamp-post flags, regularly posting footage on his social media accounts.But this weekend he carried out a shameful drunken assault on his former partner, a video of which has been shared by people across Corby.
That's real Britain
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 18:48 (one month ago)
Not doing anything to dispel the canard about flag staggers being domestic abusers, is he?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 18:50 (one month ago)
apparently during his nauseating flag-fucking bingo speech, Kieth has come out as a Republican by repeatedly refusing to acknowledge NI while acknowledging Scotland and Wales. Small steps mate! At one point I heard in his horrible adenoidal voice " I will always have respect for British values.." Shut up you fucking ugly freak! He says at the Euro '96 he sensed something stirring in Britain. I was living in London at the time, there was a lot of stirring going on from Trafalgar sq to Plumstead. Mostly just coked up drunken goons smashing up shopfronts and cars.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 07:16 (one month ago)
I'm just trying to imagine a sad enough motherfucker to have left that conference with a Build Baby Build maga style hat, signed by Steve Reed. That's literally the ultimate nadir of a wasted pathetic life.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 07:41 (one month ago)
Starmer is imitating that John Major quote about Britain as the country of long shadows on county cricket grounds, warm beer and invincible green suburbs, but with none of the poetry. https://t.co/AxiyTYpcQk— Karl Hansen (@karl_fh) September 30, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:07 (one month ago)
The gentle knock on the door to check on your neighbour, and verify their digital ID.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:11 (one month ago)
yeah, or the not so gentle knock when you unfurl your Palestine Action banner from the upstairs window
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:15 (one month ago)
the no to digital ID petition, which is basically an unofficial do you hate Kieth referendum. Is almost on 3 million votes now.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:20 (one month ago)
signatures, not votes. The Hate Kieth Party is officially the biggest membership in Europe
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:21 (one month ago)
“ Fifty years on from now, Britain will still be the country of long shadows on county grounds, warm beer, invincible green suburbs, dog lovers, and—as George Orwell said—old maids bicycling to Holy Communion through the morning mist."
Major’s obvs a bit more evocative but the inability of anyone to articulate what they mean by British culture and values, other than this kind of jumpers for goalposts stuff, has been an ongoing issue.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:39 (one month ago)
who the fuck likes warm beer
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:42 (one month ago)
I'll drink any old piss, so maybe that is a British value! Free Speech certainly isn't. How the fuck can say Free Speech is a British value when even before his authoritarian crackdown on free speech, it still wasn't a British value even then.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:47 (one month ago)
sorry garbled posting. But Kieth actually said: "Free speech is a British value... " *clapping seals*
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:49 (one month ago)
This has a very Major government feel with the resignations and empty talk of British cultural values, and an ongoing sell off of assets via austerity to stand in for privitaziation of the railways.
All it needs is some kind of financial crash and between the budget/jittery markets and the bet on AI being integrated into government functions...
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:50 (one month ago)
And ofc the constant low polling though I don't think Major was as personally detested as the Tory party as a whole..
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:52 (one month ago)
He says at the Euro '96 he sensed something stirring in Britain.
Does he mean when England dumped Scotland out of competition because Gary McAllister decided to aim a penalty kick directly at David Seaman? There was certainly a lot stirring where I was when Germany won their semi final, an exponential surge in affection for our Teutonic friends.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:54 (one month ago)
that was just a little bit of "politics of grievance" (quoting Kieth) from the England fans. Well maybe it was quite a lot, actually!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 09:00 (one month ago)
Starmer on holiday finding a painted fence and swelling up with pride - a brit must have done that.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 09:02 (one month ago)
are Kieth's English people basically, Tom fucking Sawyer? Oh must paint my fence and make such a big song and dance about it that somehow painting my fence defines my national identity.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 09:06 (one month ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-daYplQj5CE
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 09:07 (one month ago)
To return to Euro 96, I remember among the crowd I was hanging out with at the time - who were mostly arty types and not very into football - there was a guy from Blackburrrrn, a lovely lad with more than passing resemblance to Paul Whitehouse's "Aren't mum's fantastic?" character from The Fast Show. When it got to the semi final I remember him saying to a big group of us, "Surely no-one's going to support Germany??!!". Cue mass downcast eyes, staring at feet, inspecting of fingernails.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 09:18 (one month ago)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 09:49 (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
And that's why we banned Owen Jones and Rivkah Brown from Labour conference! *b'dm tish* I thang you
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 09:21 (one month ago)
Are things like this maybe inherently inarticulable? But if so, I don't think it makes it any less real. If you say "jumpers for goalposts" to 10 people in a room and 6 "get it", even if they can't say why they get it, it doesn't make them get it any less. I think this is exactly what culture is, the understanding on an instinctive level.
This doesn't have to be on a national level, it can be as simple as office culture. We know this, when we don't fit somewhere, or someone doesn't fit. It can be intangible but we know it nonetheless
I understand the frustration at people not being able to articulate what they think, and if someone thinks something they should be able to explain why. But its also two dimensional to a degree
― anvil, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 09:23 (one month ago)
"...with resolve, with respect, with a flag in our hand we can renew this country..."
lool, he literally did say this
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 09:24 (one month ago)
It's always going to be difficult to articulate, but it's less about capturing the spirit of the nation than projecting the kind of country you want to create or maintain. Major's was widely mocked at the time but is at least coherent with a backwards-looking, nostalgic small-c conservatism. Starmer's just seems bizarre - which i think is partly incompetence on the part of the speech-writers, partly a real lack of confidence about his vision and his standing. Reference to actual Culture is too elitist, reference to Labour values that align with notional British freedoms falls flat when he's actively eroding them, there's no real future state for the country he wants to outline, so you're left with painting a fence.
When maintaining "British culture" is the core policy offering of the country's leading party, and they mean "whiteness", you've got to work a bit harder to articulate what you mean other than that.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 09:43 (one month ago)
when starts making so fucking awkward and bizarre cultural references he comes across like some alien slug that had a quick wiki search while arriving in his UFO.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 09:48 (one month ago)
Are things like this maybe inherently inarticulable?
In the UK, yes. British always ends up meaning English. In Starmer's case that's deliberate because English votes is what he's worried about, in Major's case I'm sure he thought burbling on about village greens and cricket fields would resonate with the entire nation and not just Ray Davies.
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 09:50 (one month ago)
People elected Labour because of "change", they will elect conservatives and the small f fascists if they want to preserve things. This lot don't have a clue what their brand is or should be.
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 09:58 (one month ago)
Yeah I agree with Anvil, also like does any country really have this sort of identity beyond vague self regard? And when does it get turned to in any serious way? Starmer wouldn't be pathetically trying to establish what Britain stands for if he wasn't facing an opponent who is determined to say certain people or certain cultures or beliefs are not and never will be British. So he's prob already lost if he's going to fight on this ground rather than just trying to improve people's lives and calling out that sort of politics as a veneer for corruption and personal empowerment. Perhaps the latter would be throwing stones from a glasshouse, or too close to home at least.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 10:00 (one month ago)
People elected Labour because of "change", they will elect conservatives and the small f fascists if they want to preserve things.
I don't think this is true at all. Labour got more votes in 2019 than they did in 2024. I don't think people voted Labour for any reason other than they voted Labour before
― anvil, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 10:13 (one month ago)
Its more like buying a particular cereal, not something to be overthought or even thought about at all
― anvil, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 10:14 (one month ago)
Well okay yes for 2019 Labour voters that's right, but the 2019 tory and lib dem voters switching to labour in key seats that helped secure the margin of victory on a lower overall vote share, there has to be some theory of why they did that. Some would have been voting tactically to get rid of the tories, but others wanted change from the status quo, I would argue. Disappointed Tory voters who had believed Boris' lies about leveling up, investment, 40 new hospitals, Northern powerhouse, and yes, lower immigration. These are the voters, along with Labour's core base of course, that Starmer is not attempting to appeal to with his rhetoric of "already existing lukewarm things".
Source: How did 2019 voters vote in 2024? chart about 2/3 down the page
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49978-how-britain-voted-in-the-2024-general-election
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 10:29 (one month ago)
He is forsaking all of these people to go after the core Tory vote (now moving to Reform), and the 2024 Reform voters. I saw it convincingly argued yesterday that focusing on Labour's natural voter base and doing even Miliband-lite policy would easily get Labour 35% in the next GE and would be enough to win a majority. Maybe Burnham would do that, who the fuck knows. Not that I personally have any faith in Burnham or the Labour party, of course.
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 10:33 (one month ago)
As Starmer will probably be finished by this time next year there could be time for a reset of sorts. Don't think they'd win a majority but maybe a hung parliament..
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 10:39 (one month ago)
Read this ok piece on the Hillsborough Law.
https://newsocialist.org.uk/transmissions/rewiring-the-state/
"calling out that sort of politics as a veneer for corruption and personal empowerment. Perhaps the latter would be throwing stones from a glasshouse, or too close to home at least."
more like throwing stones in a house made out of perspex banners with the logos of various gambling, private health, arms industry lobbyists, uber, US big-tech etc printed on them. People who are paying 50 grand to the PLP to get access to govt ministers at their party conference. yeah, he might have some problems there!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 10:43 (one month ago)
there has to be some theory of why they did that
If I read that chart correctly the majority of Labour 24 voters were also Labour 19 voters. With the two changing groups, I think the LibDem/Lab voters are likely voters that oscillate between the two (and Green), though those voters likely don't think of themselves as oscillating, but that theres a Venn diagram between the three and vote how they perceive whichever is closest to them at election time. The viability and visibility of the LibDems ebbs and flows a lot too so I think it's more to do with them than Labour.
The Con/Lab voters are likely longer term Lab voters that returned home after securing the Brexit win or thought Corbyn was Galloway in disguise and feared he might leave to start a party with socially conservative landlords and no name
― anvil, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 10:52 (one month ago)
Vaguely on topic, thought this was interesting on big tech/finance: https://democracyforsale.substack.com/p/inside-the-tony-blair-institute-larry-ellison-peter-kyle-starmer
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 11:58 (one month ago)
Can't imagine anyone from a "traditional Labour" background voting Liberal, Tory yes, Reform yes but Liberal never!
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 12:09 (one month ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/oct/01/keir-starmer-labour-collapse-public-support-digital-id-cards
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 12:13 (one month ago)
Can't imagine anyone from a "traditional Labour" background voting Liberal, Tory yes, Reform yes but Liberal never!]
This is falling into the same trap the media does, presenting people who traditionally vote Labour as 64 year old market traders from Mansfield. Traditionally voting doesn't mean voting while wearing flat cap
― anvil, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 12:15 (one month ago)
any policy that might even slightly polarise people from Starmer will just become an unofficial Starmer referendum. And a vast swathe of the country will turn against it because right across the political spectrum they really fucking hate him!
2,680,724 signatures for the no to Digital ID petition. It could be 5-6 million by next week.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 12:20 (one month ago)
I think Polankski might have played a role in turning the grumpy left against garys economics, even though tbf a lot of them were deeply sceptical towards the *popular* one issue campaigner to start with. He appeared on Polanski's podcast, on which he refused to say that the voters of a far-right party are racist. Then his whole one-issue campaign starts looking a bit lacking in intersectionality and anything approaching human decency, some lame-ass 2003 New Labour shit. And now lots of people are posting: I had this little fuckers number from the start!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 12:37 (one month ago)
Don't lecture me on traditional Labour voters you supercilious dick, why don't you go back to the US politics thread and bore the tits off them instead?
― I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 12:38 (one month ago)
made the mistake of watching owen jones’ labour conference video (not sure why the algorithm served me that - I’m blaming the deep state). what a horrible procession of morbid ghouls
― ||||||||, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 12:42 (one month ago)
plus michael gove
― ||||||||, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 12:43 (one month ago)
the algorithm will always encourage you to watch channels by state assetts!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 12:45 (one month ago)
had somehow memoryholed the existences of lord m4nn and luk3 4kehurst - repugnant individuals
― ||||||||, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 12:49 (one month ago)
nuke the fucking luke, just an absolute failed abortion!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 12:50 (one month ago)
I recall a real case of a sex offender changing his name to avoid detection or people googling his crimes. A peerage can save you the bother of all that shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 12:52 (one month ago)
According to the Electoral Commission, @jeremycorbyn is officially Leader of Your Party. No nominations, no votes, nothing. The accession of King Corbyn has begun. The Founding Conference of Your Party is shaping up to be nothing more than a Coronation. https://t.co/FvAvC3Hez3 pic.twitter.com/CLP8CP86xF— Max Shanly (@maxshanly) October 1, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 13:05 (one month ago)
Guy who pays Musk for a twitter blue tick has views on the new left party is it
― SPENGE (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 13:12 (one month ago)
does that make his post or the electoral commission link any less true?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 13:14 (one month ago)
idk why he does it but Max is pretty solid and very committed to a member led, democratic left Wong party xp
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 13:16 (one month ago)
* wing lol
Max is a fine poster, I thought it might be an ironic bluetick. I mean yeah otherwise it is great that Corbyn has done a power grab on the party is putting bigoted landlords in top tier positions and surrounding himself with some of the toxic useless wankers who ran his project into the ground last time.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 13:18 (one month ago)
It happens in areas where it's the only hope of getting/keeping the Tories out, but obv. that's not particularly driven by Liberal policies.
― fetter, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 13:18 (one month ago)
"Max is a fine poster, I thought it might be an ironic bluetick."
I don't really know but my reading of this is that some activist types might pay for more visibility. The stuff around X being just some Nazi site is mostly bollocks given the people still on there (most of whom don't pay anything) and the conversations/organising they are still having/doing.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 13:27 (one month ago)
Never gonna pass up the chance to dunk on a musk paypig.
But yeah, looks like corbyn is fucking it into the sun lol
― SPENGE (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 13:28 (one month ago)
I don't really know but my reading of this is that some activist types might pay for more visibility.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 13:36 (one month ago)
I can never care about the good billionaire/bad billionaire optics of different platforms - they are all owned by total cunts imo. But yeah, I wouldn't pay for a bluetick myself - it would just feel very wrong, lol.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 13:44 (one month ago)
Its nothing to people who have deleted the app, but if he replies to something that might be near the top and has more visibility. Laugh or cry, but Max is still trying to build good things, and has been since the Corbyn years xp
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 13:48 (one month ago)
I'm sure being on X is good for some people's ability to make money doing whatever it is they were doing before Elon bought it.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 14:22 (one month ago)
Just looked and and Vittles have moved to Bluesky :)
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 14:28 (one month ago)
I still notice a fair few media people who would generally have castigated others for this and that in the past who can't, when it comes to it, leave the clout they've amassed behind, regardless of who owns the platform.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 14:39 (one month ago)
LOL Reform are actually continuing to claim that Starmer is inciting Antifa to take up arms and commit violence against Nigel Farage. I think Richard Tice might be drunk though.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 18:37 (one month ago)
Antifa should do it just to show up Kieth
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 18:39 (one month ago)
tbf Antifa's crack milkshake squad have targeted Farage in the past.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 18:43 (one month ago)
Antifa he says, eh? So deeply invisible in the UK the Mi6 are struggling to get even one agent to infiltrate them!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 18:52 (one month ago)
sorry I meant Mi5. Who never tried to infiltrate the British Union of Fascists, because before ww2 they were considered counter-insurgents rather a domestic security risk and "some very good people" obv
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 18:57 (one month ago)
I have limited patience for OJ these days but fair play to him for pinning down Akehurst like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLApab1L1-E
― Piedie Gimbel, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 19:15 (one month ago)
(At 26 mins)
― Piedie Gimbel, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 19:16 (one month ago)
My God, imagine voting for that inarticulate toad.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 19:23 (one month ago)
he's such an utterly detestable personality, with a brane completely dense as a plank of wood and he's so deeply, obviously such fucking corrupt motherfucker is Akehurst, and he's not very good at concealing it. Maybe a bigger risk letting journos near him than it was Kieth (who apparatchiks were mostly fretting about hiding from journos at the conference)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 19:27 (one month ago)
Make sure to watch Lord John Mann, Baron Mann, at 23:35 stealing Jones' mic and telling him to fuck off!
Alexei Sayle's comment about the Labour right is almost a proverb these days. Still accurate.
After being interviewed Thornberry tried to claim that Jones is a misogynist because "he never chases men around asking them questions". Shameless.
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 19:29 (one month ago)
shit, I always get Lord Mann mixed up with Lord Walney. Both dodgy as fuck scumbags and both funded by Israel lobby.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 19:46 (one month ago)
Nice way to treat a former friend, Emily.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 19:50 (one month ago)
...but the 2019 tory and lib dem voters switching to labour in key seats that helped secure the margin of victory on a lower overall vote share...
Genuine question (I'd be interested in the answer but definitely can't be bothered to do the research myself) - in how many of the seats that Labour gained in 2024 did they actually increase their number of votes? It doesn't feel like the won much by increasing their votes or vote share, more just that the Tory vote utterly collapsed.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 19:53 (one month ago)
Akehurst is so vile he makes my skin crawl.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 19:54 (one month ago)
He is the absolute livid pustule of Labour arrogance. Feel like that interview will be the heart of countless gormless tv dramas about the catastrophe of the Starmer era.
― Piedie Gimbel, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 19:58 (one month ago)
it's almost impressive that he got this far tbf
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 20:00 (one month ago)
Off the top of my head, Zarah Sultana’s majority went from 400 in 2019 to around 10k in 2024.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 21:09 (one month ago)
Finally got round to this piece on Starmer. Did a number of good things before an eventual 'change them from the inside' mentality, plus a lack of reckoning with the contradictions within human rights lawyery as outlined in this really excellent piece.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/29/keir-starmer-labour-party-human-rights-mixed-record-international-law
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 21:18 (one month ago)
in how many of the seats that Labour gained in 2024 did they actually increase their number of votes?
it looks like it's a majority of them, but the typical pattern in those seats is a small swing to labour, gigantic swing against the tories, large swing to reform, and a small swing against the lib dems. there are still quite a few where labour won despite a swing against them, just because reform came along and split the tory vote very significantly, or where turnout was down enough that despite labour getting a slightly higher percentage of the vote, they got less votes than 2019.
― ufo, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 22:18 (one month ago)
just remembering this classic from the very handsome, white, English philosemite, Luke Akehurst:
In the speech, he claims that Marxist Jews “have abandoned very much of their Jewish identity, they don’t go to shul at all. You know, it’s become a purely cultural thing around the occasional bowl of chicken soup or whatever....
The political climate that allowed a freak like him to decide who was a real Jew is just absolutely fucking insane.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 2 October 2025 05:33 (one month ago)
😨 https://t.co/eWk1C3T4E9 pic.twitter.com/4dVo04N1hy— Plutôt la Barbie (@plutotlabarbie) October 1, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 2 October 2025 07:06 (one month ago)
The culture secretary @lisanandy says “gambling brings joy to millions” but can ruin the lives of “some people in particular.” pic.twitter.com/s3XlJmiZYL— Clean Up Gambling (@cleanupgambling) October 1, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 2 October 2025 07:15 (one month ago)
there are still quite a few where labour won despite a swing against them, just because reform came along and split the tory vote very significantly, or where turnout was down enough that despite labour getting a slightly higher percentage of the vote, they got less votes than 2019.
― ufo, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 bookmarkflaglink
If Reform had run in 2019 there is a strong possibility that Lab would've won and we could've gotten to hate Corbyn as PM a lot earlier.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2025 08:01 (one month ago)
Looking at riots in Morocco *wish that was us*
The situation in Morocco 🇲🇦 is spiralling out of control.The FIFA riots have spread to almost every major city tonight. Reports of dozens of injured, lots of destruction and even a couple cases of live ammo having been used.This video is from Salé, near the capital Rabat. pic.twitter.com/K8fPq86zdg— Thomas van Linge (@ThomasVLinge) October 2, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2025 10:09 (one month ago)
Pretty horrific that some random cunt attacked a synagogue on Yom Kippur honestly. Only the attacker dead as far as I can see from coverage, hopefully it remains that way.
― Marsee playground (gyac), Thursday, 2 October 2025 10:38 (one month ago)
Horrible
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2025 10:59 (one month ago)
one casualty from the synagogue confirmed now
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 2 October 2025 11:07 (one month ago)
I just don't expect this kind of shit happening in Manchester. When I saw some mention of it earlier I assumed it would be in the US
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 2 October 2025 11:11 (one month ago)
Three in a serious condition. Horrific.
― Marsee playground (gyac), Thursday, 2 October 2025 11:54 (one month ago)
Weird from @kiranstacey in the @guardian to exclude @TheGreenParty leader from this article, who happens to be both Jewish and from Manchester https://t.co/uOXNhIdSwu— Rupert George (@RupertGeorge) October 2, 2025
we don't need to hear from the Jewish party leader who is Mancunian and went to a N Manchester synagogue up the road from where the attack occurred. Nice work Graun.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 2 October 2025 15:34 (one month ago)
In policing news, the rozzers have asked for a protest in support of Palestine Action to be postponed as otherwise they'd have to divert resources from Manchester in order to arrest peaceful protestors. The protest organisers have politely told them to piss off.
― Amon Düüluth (Matt #2), Thursday, 2 October 2025 17:19 (one month ago)
Greater Manchester Police (GMP) have now confirmed that the device the suspect was wearing during the synagogue attack was "not viable".Earlier, pictures showed the suspect wearing items round his waist.GMP also confirms that Operation Plato has been stood down, but says "major incident status remains".
Kind of suspect this in these kind of incidents, it doesn’t need to work for it to terrify people
― Marsee playground (gyac), Thursday, 2 October 2025 17:24 (one month ago)
Oops, it looks like one of the victims was shot by the police - they shot another member of the public too - and the attacker did not have a firearm.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 3 October 2025 10:32 (one month ago)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 October 2025 10:52 (one month ago)
pic.twitter.com/CzPWQJ3SOM https://t.co/6T44Ps6R7p— Gareth Dennis (@GarethDennis) October 3, 2025
fucking proper leadership, imo. I see right-wing Jews calling him a kapo - transparently bad actors who should never be taken seriously and also should be told to go fuck themselves forever.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 October 2025 15:43 (one month ago)
Zack has been magnificent.
Some in the media clearly really admire how the fascist regime in the US weaponised the Charlie Kirk murder a few weeks ago and thought, let's give that a go.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 3 October 2025 15:57 (one month ago)
Lammy heckled and booed by crowd at Manchester synagogue vigilJustice secretary David Lammy was heckled and booed by some of the crowd as he addressed a vigil close to the scene of the Manchester synagogue attack.
As he took to the stage he faced calls of “shame on you”, “go to Palestine, leave us alone”, “you’ve allowed it to grow on the campuses” and “you have blood on your hands”.
Emotions are still raw, but I find this impossible to comprehend. This guy will at some point be in the Hague for aiding and abetting a genocide.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 3 October 2025 16:05 (one month ago)
I'd take the complete collapse of the UK state, even if I ended up dead. Just to know there is a gallows being built for that smug nasty fraudulent cunt
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 October 2025 16:13 (one month ago)
he's so fucking horrible, but yeah sorry I forget he's another neoliberal victory for representation, lol
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 October 2025 16:15 (one month ago)
Right-wingers for whom Israel can do no wrong (including the Chief Rabbi it seems) want the zero sum retaliatory punishment of banning all pro-Palestine protests.
― nashwan, Friday, 3 October 2025 16:22 (one month ago)
Yes. I realise how absurd it sounds, this scenario where the government and the BBC, the media in general are biased against Israel, but just as there's reform headbangers who believe Starmer is a woke marxist there are also def right wing ppl who believe that
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 3 October 2025 16:29 (one month ago)
The reason they are all giving it “pretty please, cancel the protest” is because they don’t actually have any legal way of stopping it.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 3 October 2025 16:31 (one month ago)
oh yeah, Kieth fuelled this murder attack by recognising Palestine will get much traction in the UK rn
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 October 2025 16:33 (one month ago)
how can you explain to lunatics that Kieth literally has the blood of Palestinian children on his hands, no point even getting into it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 October 2025 16:35 (one month ago)
Glad they heckled Lammy though tbh.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 3 October 2025 17:05 (one month ago)
what a fucking cunt, deserves to be bricked rather heckled.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 October 2025 17:09 (one month ago)
hah hah Lammy getting heckled whilst dispensing glib platitudes, what a fucking worthless cunt of the ages!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 October 2025 17:23 (one month ago)
he's such a fucking arrogant bloviating sack of shit, he's doing the boilerplate platitudes and then telling hecklers that they need to shut up because they are being divisive. Honestly when you have that level of arrogance and lack of self awareness - just fucking kill yourself.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 October 2025 17:34 (one month ago)
Mandelson stripped of his freedom of Hartlepool honour by the monkey hangers. Which kind of does beg the question why award the honour to a complete cunt with no connection to the region other than being a Blair project piece of shit parachuted in there for career convenience.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 4 October 2025 17:37 (one month ago)
I think I can answer that
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 October 2025 17:47 (one month ago)
oh yes, poor use of rhetoric by me. Just like posting some shite every time one of these post '97 demons loses, even in only a small way really, but at least loses somnething.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 4 October 2025 17:50 (one month ago)
Ah bud I've had a few i was posting for camaraderie as much as anythingm
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 October 2025 17:54 (one month ago)
oh no, didn't take it like that!
there has been a government response on the parliamentary petition page (nearly 3m signatures) against the Blair family/Palantir ID card bonfire of civil rights: resistance is futile
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 4 October 2025 17:56 (one month ago)
You're not wrong about the gruesome out in the openness of the way the important people cuddle their monstrous friends either, but there was a time when I thought the movieSociety was heavy-handes satire and now it feels like a documentary
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 October 2025 17:59 (one month ago)
oh yeah Society is way too fucking subtle in it's approach to socio-political satire!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 4 October 2025 18:01 (one month ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2b1VA2WQAAMQZc?format=png&name=small
I'm feeling very youthful and evergreen today after finding out that this cunt is only a year older than me, lol
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 4 October 2025 18:05 (one month ago)
He's fucking younger than me, other people's misfortune doesn't actually affect my own self-loathing but Nukey is the poster boy for how ugly evil will make you
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 October 2025 18:18 (one month ago)
LOOL yeah absolutely!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 4 October 2025 18:23 (one month ago)
Stoked for this 80s Reg Holdsworth Corrie prequel
― nashwan, Saturday, 4 October 2025 18:25 (one month ago)
lack of knowledge, is power
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 4 October 2025 18:29 (one month ago)
The unacceptable face of British politics.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 October 2025 18:29 (one month ago)
The slapped arse more like
― nashwan, Saturday, 4 October 2025 18:34 (one month ago)
you've got to change the rules of physics when you start calling that a face
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 4 October 2025 18:36 (one month ago)
it's incredible hearing Polanski getting the Corbyn treatment from the odious cunt Justin Webb and then swatting him away like the incredulous lying cunt that he is. Then I pause to think that this is a state media attempt to bully a Jewish man into accepting the parameters of his Jewishness defined by a white English person.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 4 October 2025 18:50 (one month ago)
probably worded that badly, bit pished. But Polanski is a very impressive political leader, I kind of love him at the moment.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 4 October 2025 18:52 (one month ago)
“Just because you have a freedom doesn’t mean you have to use it at every moment of every day”
yes thanks for that, the death of the Labour Party has already taken far too long, now fuck off and die.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 5 October 2025 19:10 (one month ago)
this made me absolutely lose it, then repeat it to my husband
― a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Sunday, 5 October 2025 23:07 (one month ago)
Filed for later use, heaven knows I will need it at some point.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 6 October 2025 06:11 (one month ago)
Reform likely to raise Kent council tax after cost-cutting drive falters https://t.co/hepE3gmFWj— Financial Times (@FT) October 5, 2025
Stop me if you’ve heard this one before.
― ShariVari, Monday, 6 October 2025 09:17 (one month ago)
Turns out there wasn’t any wasteful spending to slash.
― ShariVari, Monday, 6 October 2025 09:18 (one month ago)
Probably save a few quid from the flags budget
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 October 2025 09:20 (one month ago)
Most local authorities can't even pay enough social workers/care workers to even maintain a fucking functional adult social care system before you even get to the municipal basic services. Fucking DOGE already got their chainsaws to LA budgets in ever expanding austerity cuts since 2010.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 6 October 2025 09:41 (one month ago)
Yes, cutting social services that's really going to help fight child sexual exploitation and abuse.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Monday, 6 October 2025 09:46 (one month ago)
Sorry are we pretending Reform is acting in good faith here???
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 October 2025 09:47 (one month ago)
Not so much that as confirming that they are clueless Twitter-addled wankers who think they're in Dover DE not Dover, Kent.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Monday, 6 October 2025 10:09 (one month ago)
― ShariVari, Monday, 6 October 2025 bookmarkflaglink
Reform should give Lab councilors in Lambeth a ring. They'll show them how its done.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 October 2025 11:54 (one month ago)
Feel like "local councils are crap, we'll fund them" is just hanging there waiting to picked from the branch
― LocalGarda, Monday, 6 October 2025 12:36 (one month ago)
They're a useful scapegoat for both wings of the Uniparty though. Successive governments have cut back the central funding but then they get to shrug their shoulders when people point out that public services are falling apart
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 October 2025 13:28 (one month ago)
Yep I guess you're right, using them as a lightning rod has always been the move. I have tried to make my MP discuss the functioning of the council and you'd have more luck trying to bottle a will-o-the-wisp. Was interesting to see the machine response tho.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 6 October 2025 13:36 (one month ago)
"so the council is more powerful than an MP, is that it? forgive me, I didn't grow up here"
― LocalGarda, Monday, 6 October 2025 13:37 (one month ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/oct/06/tax-authorities-nigel-farage-hmrc-reform-uk-george-cottrell
Seem some hateable faces in my time but this bloke...
― LocalGarda, Monday, 6 October 2025 17:10 (one month ago)
https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/04/02/posh-george-cottrell/
Better info here on him also
the Green Party just unveiled the most radical policy raft of a UK party since the 70's, when policies like this were just ordinary centre-left things. The coordinated attack from Labour has been to call them "unserious". It really makes them look like totally serious politicians, when like performing monkeys they all word their critiques to an identical template, just exactly the same post really, which isn't a proper critique of politics, just a kind of coordinated "you stink". Which is pretty rich coming from one of the most unpopular and useless governments in UK history.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 7 October 2025 07:15 (one month ago)
Transphobes seem to have been marginalised in the Greens, which is good to see.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 October 2025 08:25 (one month ago)
trans healthcare policies passed at the conference with no nonsense, they've got no influence.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 7 October 2025 08:27 (one month ago)
some little Talk TV turd has been attacking Polanski because he reverted to his Jewish name that his dad dropped and somehow this makes him a phony. If that isn't actual antisemitism the I really don't know what fuck is anymore!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 7 October 2025 08:31 (one month ago)
Yes, more authentic if he'd named himself after a football hooligan like Yaxley-Lennon did.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 October 2025 08:54 (one month ago)
Poor old Tories, can't get anything right.
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/71dfa8bc883799e06e289da0a5bccdecf4622e03/0_0_5000_4000/master/5000.jpg?width=620&dpr=1&s=none&crop=none
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 October 2025 08:58 (one month ago)
Jenrick is like a sinister fascist character from some Brooker shite (with a very crap actor). Thankfully the Tory machine is not even functional enough for a basic spellcheck on merch at the moment.
there has been some hilarious fash on fash violence with Melanie Phillips inexplicably posting some truthful things about Yax. i.e that he's a neo-fascist thug, an absolute moron who almost collapsed a grooming gang trial, not really the calibre of person who an Israeli minister should be inviting for a state visit! when she's right she's right... I guess!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 7 October 2025 09:04 (one month ago)
Yes, the Israeli government attacking the Board of Deputies has gone down very badly with the usual U.K. Israel apologists.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 7 October 2025 09:54 (one month ago)
not really the calibre of person who an Israeli minister should be inviting for a state visitthese ones tho
― nashwan, Tuesday, 7 October 2025 09:57 (one month ago)
“Today, on the anniversary of the atrocities of October 7, students are once again planning protests.
“This is not who we are as a country. It’s un-British to have so little respect for others. And that’s before some of them decide to start chanting hatred towards Jewish people all over again.”
Having some pretty un-British thoughts about Kieth myself.
― crisp, Tuesday, 7 October 2025 14:33 (one month ago)
God he's such a failure.
Like everything he says is so fine tuned to convince absolutely no one.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 7 October 2025 14:36 (one month ago)
Keir Starmer’s spokesman asked about Israel detaining British citizens who were on the Gaza aid flotilla, while in international waters, replies that it is a “matter for the Israeli Government”
when he says he doesn't give a fuck about what Israel does to British citizens who they have kidnapped, even they still utterly despise him.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 7 October 2025 14:40 (one month ago)
Can you imagine if e.g. Russia was kidnapping UK citizens and Kieth just shrugged
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 October 2025 14:55 (one month ago)
Or Iran?
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 October 2025 15:00 (one month ago)
Or the US?
― for the 1975 german film, see fox and his friends (Matt #2), Tuesday, 7 October 2025 15:53 (one month ago)
This is to come.
I'm very worried about Maccabi Tel Aviv fabs coming to Birmingham in a month. If Amsterdam is any indicator they will likely attack the locals, and our government seems likely to let them, perhaps even call us anti-semitic for bloodying their fists.— Tom Hatfield (@WordMercenary) October 6, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 October 2025 16:26 (one month ago)
some IDF psycho get's a grazed knee from a Brum football hooligan pushing them over: OMG it's a pogrom in the UK!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 7 October 2025 16:43 (one month ago)
Aston has a high Asian population and had loads of Palestine flags up when I was at VP the other week, seems a real powder keg. I feel bad enough for the locals having to deal with Villa fans tbh, there's one guy who blares recordings of football fans singing out of his window for hours every match day
hopefully not too many travel. WM Police were up against Legia Warsaw fans going mental two years ago and probably don't much fancy a repeat
― Sgt. Biscuits, Tuesday, 7 October 2025 17:56 (one month ago)
Sucks, because I generally agree with the take that YP could have had a much higher ceiling than the Greens, but the drive and energy is gone now and it'll be very hard to recapture. https://t.co/DFdMVyhxFJ— Marl Karx (@BareLeft) October 7, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 8 October 2025 07:09 (one month ago)
While I think Corbyns personal unpopularity while leader was somewhat overstated, he didn't really do anything of note in the intervening time period. I think he fucked it then as much as now, not making use of that time, not building anything.
He's the polar opposite of Bernie Sanders
― anvil, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 07:28 (one month ago)
no this is all about him at this particular moment for me, not that had done much in his independent post PLP period. His umming and ahing with ZS when she forced the issue with an announcement was already damaging to the momentum that was building up, but could have passed if he'd reeled in his neck at this point. But after ZS opened the portal and got a massive influx of members within hours, him telling people to pay back the subs and then doing a crude power grab - that's the moment he truly fucked it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 8 October 2025 07:38 (one month ago)
don't worry this will be so grassroots, we'll have 27,000 delegates ..lol!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 8 October 2025 07:42 (one month ago)
Saying Corbyn fucked it then is a reach when the Lab party he ran -- as compromised as it was, and as reluctant a leader as he was -- nearly got to power.
I wouldn't say this is "fucked", just yet. Its good that there will be some more movement away from Labour. Your Party will have probably the same membership numbers as the Greens and they will hardly be full of transphobes and Landlords.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 07:47 (one month ago)
I'm not referring to his tenure as Labour leader, I'm referring to the interim period where did nothing
― anvil, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 07:48 (one month ago)
Even that is wrong. He was a good constituent MP and focused on that. Others in Lab could have taken on the challenge to try and do this. It can't all be laid down at his door.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 07:52 (one month ago)
well yeah, I'm speaking personally with "fucked" tbh. Because that's the point my hatred of Corbyn started and I decided not to have any more to do with YP (despite being a member lol). But yeah even as a viable long term project, he did certainly absolutely fuck the momentum that had built up around the party. When you are too fucking inert and self-interested to take rare opportunities like that in politics, then you shouldn't be anywhere near the leadership.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 8 October 2025 07:53 (one month ago)
Your Party have no guarantee of any numbers, not membership and not voters, which the Greens have a lot of already. Your Party basically doesn't exist yet, electorally.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 07:56 (one month ago)
I agree with that, it's the combination of the two. He should have picked a lane. He picked the constituency mp lane, and fair play. But then to switch lanes and swanny in and take over. Its a re-iteration of the idea that he doesn't really put the work in
― anvil, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 07:56 (one month ago)
Your Party will have probably the same membership numbers
I'd be surprised.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 8 October 2025 07:57 (one month ago)
Yeah I mean Corbyn should be doing less, is what this whole YP debacle show xp
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 07:57 (one month ago)
He's a luxury player, and doesn't bring enough going forward to compensate for the failure to do the hard yards
― anvil, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 07:59 (one month ago)
Corbyn has worked rooms full of 10 activists at a time for decades.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:01 (one month ago)
Hanging out with 10 friendly mates for years on end, its not enough
― anvil, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:02 (one month ago)
Corbyn has become such a drag on the UK left and makes absolutely terrible decisions, like giving the first post YP announcement interview to OJ, the journo who had campaigned against him for 18 months, wrote a book that supported the now discredited idea that Corbyn Labour was a hive of antisemitism. To call OJ a weathervane is being too fucking generous, he's probably more likely an MI5 asset, like his old spice snorting, fake-left pal Paul Mason is!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:08 (one month ago)
That's more than you have done, come on xp
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:10 (one month ago)
I agree with this 100%. But this isn't the bar for how we should judge such things. Corbyn has done more than a member of the public who is struggling to make ends meet and keep own life on track? Sure, but its not enough
― anvil, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:12 (one month ago)
Vote Corbyn, he's done more for the country than your next door neighbour ever did!
― anvil, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:16 (one month ago)
he's probably more likely an MI5 asset, like his old spice snorting, fake-left pal Paul Mason is!
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:21 (one month ago)
"I agree with this 100%. But this isn't the bar for how we should judge such things. Corbyn has done more than a member of the public who is struggling to make ends meet and keep own life on track?"
I don't think you know the bar tbh. The complaint about YP is that it isn't looking likely to be member-led. That's members who might be struggling etc. and who still want to have the say on who should be selected to stand for councils and to be future MPs, and what the policies ought to be. Who want to be involved.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:32 (one month ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2cbDIAGhWQ
― anvil, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:36 (one month ago)
It looks like that's what they have as Greens with Polanski at the top, for now. So I'm looking forward to seeing how that goes. Ongoing destruction due to climate change will mean a greater focus on them.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:37 (one month ago)
xp the reason you posted that is because you think politics is a job to be done professionally.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:39 (one month ago)
the reason you posted that is because you think politics is a job to be done professionally.
Not necessarily but I think the leader of a party should be a professional, if its unpaid then it rules out a lot of people who can't afford to give the time required to being leader of a major party. It makes it the preserve of the rich, which I think is a mistake
― anvil, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:42 (one month ago)
it really irritates me to how oblivious Corbyn is to how toxic and how much of an obvious split it's going to cause having transphobic landlords as founding members, one of whom has been named as some upper tier position that was on that electoral registration form. Like these are two of the most highly important issues of this era. Trans rights and landlordism. And the silence from him on this is so deafening. It's just absolute managerial class politician arrogance from him. What a prick and what a stupidly avoidable own goal.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:43 (one month ago)
But it was more about the comparison between the leader of a major party and a member of the public, which I don't think is the right comparison
― anvil, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:43 (one month ago)
It looks like that's what they have as Greens with Polanski at the top, for now.
The Greens have always been members run and grassroots organised since the ‘People’s Party’ days and the fact that you think this is something new under Polanski shows how ignorant you are about how the whole thing works
― Etherwave, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:46 (one month ago)
I think the leader of any political party should be a person who be both elected and deselected by the majority of its members.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:47 (one month ago)
one of the YP landlords is a whale, not even a so called accidental landlord (who also need liquidating), a corporate landlord who has a multimillion £ business in parasitic extraction. I know he's got my back when any landlord reforms need voting on parliamentary. Yeah, how do you fellow socialists
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:48 (one month ago)
100% agree. If these want to elect or deselect whoever they want I agree with that same as any other party. And at the end of the day, if they've chosen someone who is 'better than Anvil' then fair enough
― anvil, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:50 (one month ago)
xp I know this, btw, but processes can always change (look at Lab). Hence 'for now', there's no reason why The Greens -- as a party fully focused on elections -- would be different.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:51 (one month ago)
xp to Etherwave
there is a conditioning that is hard-wired in Corbyn's old hard brain. He can't really envisage a party that is a truly member led democratic one or not full of wretched right-wing wrecker MPs. Despite all the bullshit he talks, he's just basically wants to recreate the Labour Party. He's a sick old vain man!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:53 (one month ago)
He's actually starting to remind of Keith
― anvil, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 08:54 (one month ago)
lol, I found out yesterday that *Threads star*, Reece Dinsdale has joined the Green Party a few weeks back. He was such a massive Labour Right apologist for at least 15 years. I had a few arguments with him when he was attacking Corbyn on the HTAFC forum where I got banned by a fascist admin and he got constructively run off the site for being a huge anti-Brexit FBPE melt. Kind of glad for him because he always seemed a Labour 4 life type and it must have become exhausting being a pseudo-progressive party apologist while they were trying to murder disabled people etc...
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 8 October 2025 09:20 (one month ago)
Greens truly uniting the left again
― imago, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 09:21 (one month ago)
Anyway, my partner arrived work today (Whitechapel Town Hall) to find a flyer informing her of a far right protest taking place there at 5pm today, so that’s nice. Meanwhile our government has nothing to say about that but plenty of ideas about how to punish anyone wishing an end to genocide.
― crisp, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 09:25 (one month ago)
Really sorry to hear it. Must be so stressful for her/her workplace.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 09:49 (one month ago)
Just reading about this as I don't live far away, appears to be some kind of yass-branded Women Against Immigration protest, wtf.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 09:53 (one month ago)
Keir Starmer is preparing to increase the price that the NHS pays for drugs *under plans to prevent pharmaceutical companies quitting the UK* by changing NHS value-for-money rules
I reckon they'll rush a load of the most destructive reforms through before getting shut of Kieth, it's not like he could be any more unpopular and he's completely done anyway.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 8 October 2025 10:02 (one month ago)
nothing kier likes better than licking the boot
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 10:24 (one month ago)
PAYING to pick the boot
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 October 2025 10:27 (one month ago)
🚨 Keir Starmer is the most communist Prime Minister in the history of Great Britain. With deep roots in Trotskyism, his socialist history goes back decades. With @liamtuffs1 pic.twitter.com/3uObSl16CY— Don Keith (@RealDonKeith) October 7, 2025
he licks the US big pharma jackboot and yet still this is what MAGA operators say about him (lol this Real Don Kieth fellow sure gives Dan Carlin a run for his money)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 8 October 2025 10:39 (one month ago)
It’s in response to the threat of sanctions from Trump rather than a straightforward sop to pharma. Highlights how fragile all those US trade deals they were bragging about are, though.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 10:39 (one month ago)
Tariffs rather than sanctions, obvs.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 10:40 (one month ago)
I just feel like every time Starmer has had a meeting with Trump, something very important has been undemocratically sold down the river, just in aid of some short-termist paper tiger tariff bollocks. He's such a fucking imbecilic cunt he should never be left alone with him.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 8 October 2025 10:45 (one month ago)
I tend to assume it's just cos UK isn't in the EU, to act as an incentive to other countries? But idk if that's giving a Trump admin too much credit in terms of strategy.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 11:09 (one month ago)
― anvil, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 bookmarkflaglink
Now getting a lot of Roy Keane crap on my YT feed :-(
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 13:44 (one month ago)
but you're the Keane of these threads :)
― nashwan, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 13:51 (one month ago)
More Souness
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 14:25 (one month ago)
Harsh...possibly fair
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 October 2025 09:57 (one month ago)
https://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2025/10/your-party-lambeth-to-hold-their-next-meeting-in-brixton-on-the-9th-october-2025/
YP meeting on the Lambeth cuts tonight. Ultimately whether its Green/YP/some left sect the question will be what opposition will be offered to oppose these cuts. That's the ongoing fight.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 October 2025 10:01 (one month ago)
Westminster Voting Intention:RFM: 32% (-3)LAB: 17% (-2)CON: 17% (+3)GRN: 15% (+4)LDM: 12% (=)SNP: 3% (=) Via @FindoutnowUK, 8 Oct.Changes w/ 1 Oct.— Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) October 9, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:38 (one month ago)
unfortunate dronestrike accident
― imago, Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:40 (one month ago)
RFM + CON 49 is still the number I'm tracking in these, and that's been pretty steady
yeah I know Labour are just as bad but I don't think their voters are, in the main
― imago, Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:41 (one month ago)
no you are a bit off there imo, anyone with the ignorance and stupidity to still be voting Labour at this point, without being an out-Tory or with a swastika tattoo on their fucking heed is much much fucking worse than standard malevolent banal evil, imo.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:51 (one month ago)
I mean you're right I guess, at *this* point it's indefensible, even if lots of good people voted for them in 2024
― imago, Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:52 (one month ago)
I tell myself Reform polling numbers are swelled by deep-state interference, but tbh it still looks grim
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:56 (one month ago)
a good chunk of people do not follow politics and just vote for whoever they've always voted for or even who their parents voted for. not saying they aren't cunts, mind.
― sent a message through the Internet but it rejected (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:57 (one month ago)
i can absolutely imagine kier mulling over a deal with reform
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:58 (one month ago)
he won't be still there by then, but if he was - it would not be a moral or party political issue at all. That much is certain. He would do anything for power and anything to protect the British state. Personally I think he will be dead by the next GE. He looks like someone who is already dead and people are doing their upmost to paint some colour into his face and making him look even more dead!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 9 October 2025 18:20 (one month ago)
also these days I genuinely believe this cunt did actually protect Jimmy Savile. But on the other hand it really bothers me that much of UK electorate and general population are not despising him for the correct fucking reasons!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 9 October 2025 18:23 (one month ago)
A friend is now an activist for children who suffered CSA at boarding school (including winning compensation for people who went to the same prep school) and I am now forced to believe the entire British establishment turned a blind eye to CSA either because they’d been at it, or through it. Probably both.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 9 October 2025 18:35 (one month ago)
the British secret services would weaponise child abuse at Kincora Boy's Home during the Troubles. Systemised child abuse is imprinted through the centre of the British state like a stick of fucking Blackpool rock imo
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 9 October 2025 18:53 (one month ago)
it happens everywhere like, but also the elites in the UK suffer systemised child abuse. And them being an evil imperial state, have also frequently used child abuse as a form of colonial control.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 9 October 2025 19:00 (one month ago)
Agency staff, bought in to break an official bin workers strike in Birmingham, today walked out and stormed the Council House at the way they’re also being treated - by the biggest Labour Council in the UK.@BrumLeader and his Labour crew are a shameless and utter disgrace.— John Edwards (@JohnEdwards33) October 9, 2025
this couldn't be any more wretched. Oh well at least the rats in Birmingham might vote Labour!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 10 October 2025 06:31 (four weeks ago)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/nigel-farage-fayaz-khan-death-threat-tiktok-b2842346.html
Critical support for "pop, pop, pop"
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 October 2025 13:44 (four weeks ago)
The hero we need
― Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 October 2025 13:49 (four weeks ago)
Meanwhile in Scotland, SNP 17 points ahead of Labour and 19 ahead of Reform in latest polls.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 10 October 2025 14:13 (four weeks ago)
“Obviously you’ve all seen what’s happened over the past few weeks but I’m here to tell you the show is back on the road,” said Sultana, the Coventry South MP who was elected on a Labour ticket but now sits as an independent.
“I know that I’m in Manchester, so I have to reference Liam and Noel Gallagher. If they can do it, of course me and Jeremy can.
“The only difference between us is that Jeremy still thinks Arsenal are still going to win the Premier League, and we know that they will always come second place with a second-place trophy.”
Impressive they managed to get Keir Starmer's speechwriter to defect.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 10 October 2025 17:00 (four weeks ago)
Is that Arsenal comment a dig at Corbyn?
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 10 October 2025 17:03 (four weeks ago)
She’s a massive Liverpool fan.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 10 October 2025 17:42 (four weeks ago)
I'll try not to hold that against her.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 10 October 2025 17:49 (four weeks ago)
it's almost like being diametrically opposed to Starmer, rather than boldly presenting your own vision to the electorate - almost turns you into another fucking shit version of his fake banter shit.
Tbf on them there is a lot of work to be done. I'm just not convinced I'll still be alive by the time they've got around to doing it!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 10 October 2025 18:02 (four weeks ago)
it fundamentally fails as comms on so many levels. It's nauseating X-factor cult of personality bullshit and it doesn't even work on that level of trying to manufacture some bullshit fake-chirpy friendship between them when we saw in real time Corbyn completely diminishing ZS and threatening legal action against her then ultimately doing a crude power grab on the whole YP enterprise.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 10 October 2025 18:27 (four weeks ago)
Hardly the main issue I know but Sultanna has been posting pics of her with Corbyn and they are all masterpieces of awkwardness.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 10 October 2025 20:10 (four weeks ago)
a lot of us are already so fucking diminished/burnt out by our previous experiences with the Corbyn Labour Party version of resistance - that I say not doing this shit again. It's hard opening yourself up to hope and optimism and realising how ill suited these actors are towards delivering anything close to what their supporters deserve.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 10 October 2025 20:24 (four weeks ago)
Pretty straightforward pipeline.
❗ Reform GAIN from ConservativeYesterday's Bretforton and Offenham (Wychavon) council by-election result:REF: 43.5% (+43.5)GRN: 25.9% (+25.9)CON: 20.1% (-35.4)LAB: 4.0% (-25.9)LDEM: 3.8% (-10.8)IND: 1.5% (+1.5)IND: 1.2% (+1.2)+/- 2023Estimated turnout: ~36% (+5)…— Britain Elects (@BritainElects) October 11, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 October 2025 12:56 (four weeks ago)
Seems to be a Lib Dem to reform, as well.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 October 2025 12:58 (four weeks ago)
The two 25.9's are certainly tidy but it doesnt mean they are the same people
― anvil, Saturday, 11 October 2025 13:21 (four weeks ago)
Yes. Lib Dems will losing votes to the Greens too, having that clown "Sir" Ed Davey in charge can't be helping them.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 October 2025 13:41 (four weeks ago)
that picture is depressing though. ok, traditional tory seat but urgh.
― koogs, Saturday, 11 October 2025 13:44 (four weeks ago)
when I heard Ed Davey recently talking about how PIP needs to be cut and people with certain disabilities and health conditions need to work. I could see why his campaign team just had him bungee jumping and stuff in the run up to the last GE. He's like Starmer in the sense that as soon he starts talking he inevitably ends up just reminding people of what a class 'A' cunt he is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 11 October 2025 15:01 (four weeks ago)
Disability denial has been normalised in the same way as racism, nobody in the media even blinks when these cunts spout this now
― How We Choosed to Live (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 October 2025 15:06 (four weeks ago)
Do they all still genuinely not know that PIP isn't means-tested and without it a lot more people would be out of work? Absolute dog whistling bullshit.
― ailsa, Saturday, 11 October 2025 15:52 (four weeks ago)
One of the side aspects of my job is telling people more or less every day that PIP isn't an out of work benefit and let's just say if the government want people to understand this they're doing a shit job of it
― How We Choosed to Live (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 October 2025 16:12 (four weeks ago)
they either feign not knowing or are genuinely ignorant. Pat McFadden is spewing out the same nonsense that Kendall did. Either he knows fuck all about disabled benefits, which isn't really a bar to being head of DWP. Or he's just an evil piece of shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 11 October 2025 16:17 (four weeks ago)
well either way he's an evil piece of shit tbf
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 11 October 2025 16:19 (four weeks ago)
I feel like they're both stupid and malicious but that's the new politics
― How We Choosed to Live (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 October 2025 16:26 (four weeks ago)
Israel rejects Bridget Phillipson’s claim UK played ‘key role’ securing Gaza ceasefire
lol, might need to try switching it on and off
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 13 October 2025 06:50 (three weeks ago)
was watching an interview with Paul Holden yesterday. He said his publisher said why don't they do a spreadsheet of all the lies committed/pledges broken by Starmer in the public record, to bluntly illustrate what an inveterate liar he is. They had to abandon this idea because it would prove to be so impractically big it would just run for pages and pages.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 October 2025 06:42 (three weeks ago)
Do you have a link for that, Calz?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 14 October 2025 06:59 (three weeks ago)
iI watched it last night on a YouTube of one of the afternoon politics shows, with some shouty live commentary/lefty critique running over it. I will try and find a clean link. Because I can't in good conscience link something that is that annoying!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 October 2025 07:07 (three weeks ago)
Paul Holden absolutely roasts Emily Darlington about how corrupt and illegal her precious Labour Party is. It is well worth catching.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 October 2025 07:09 (three weeks ago)
Paul Holden on Politics Live discussing his new book, The Fraud, on the rise of Keir Starmer - released today. pic.twitter.com/4mxqjwJJMW— Richard Sanders (@PulaRJS) October 13, 2025
9 mins of it here
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 October 2025 07:26 (three weeks ago)
WATCH: Trump asked, “Where is the UK?”Starmer raised his hand. Trump called him to the stage, making him think he was going to speak.Starmer approached the podium. “It’s nice that you’re here,” Trump said, then sent him back, offending Starmer. pic.twitter.com/Y67s4JGmEM— Clash Report (@clashreport) October 13, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 October 2025 07:40 (three weeks ago)
Please sir, I'm here I'm here!
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 October 2025 08:23 (three weeks ago)
he's a lot more composed when chasing after young male Ukrainian models, I hear
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 October 2025 08:30 (three weeks ago)
Starmer's ego warring with his id live in front of the whole world, suitable punishment for his endless fraud.
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 14 October 2025 09:33 (three weeks ago)
Great Homelander vibes from Starmzy in that vid
― How We Choosed to Live (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 October 2025 10:41 (three weeks ago)
when the orange cuts you at half-time pic.twitter.com/vZSG7Hn2l1— BRYN_BORANGA (@BRYN_BORANGA) October 14, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 October 2025 12:00 (three weeks ago)
EXCLUSIVE: Councils are buying back homes they sold just a few years previously under Right to Buy, losing millions🪀We’re calling them Yo-yo Homes and they’re making ex-tenants over £200k in some cases, at the expense of taxpayers https://t.co/4GagnA5aEv pic.twitter.com/siIbAdxvgK— Greg Barradale (@GregBarradale) October 13, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 October 2025 14:29 (three weeks ago)
he's a lot more composed when chasing after young male Ukrainian models, I hear― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 October 2025 08:30 (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 October 2025 08:30 (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Oh, we're doing that as well, are we?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 14 October 2025 15:20 (three weeks ago)
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/migrants-will-be-required-to-pass-a-level-standard-of-english
must be time for another Starmer speech about those awful racists in Reform
― How We Choosed to Live (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 October 2025 15:53 (three weeks ago)
I expect all those free speech champions who were up in arms about the racist woman who did time for urging the burning of hotels housing migrants, will be outraged at this latest case of someone being jailed for stuff they said on social media.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/oct/14/fayaz-khan-sentenced-tiktok-video-threat-kill-nigel-farage
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 October 2025 15:57 (three weeks ago)
Weird. There is no ‘A-level standard equivalent’ for ESOL tests. I assume they mean they are increasing the requirement from a CEFR B1 to B2.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 14 October 2025 17:23 (three weeks ago)
I was reading that post NV links and brought up short by the whining load of shit at the end
This decision comes in response to a high number of Botswana nationals arriving since 2022 as visitors and subsequently claiming asylum, which is a misuse of the UK’s immigration system.
Sorry, what? If they’re not seeking refuge per the governments guidelines then they can’t seek asylum, where does “misuse” come into it?
This persecution must be because of:your raceyour religionyour nationalityyour political opinionanything else that puts you at risk because of the social, cultural, religious or political situation in your country, for example, your gender, gender identity or sexual orientationYou must have failed to get protection from authorities in your own country.
your raceyour religionyour nationalityyour political opinionanything else that puts you at risk because of the social, cultural, religious or political situation in your country, for example, your gender, gender identity or sexual orientationYou must have failed to get protection from authorities in your own country.
Looking further I find this note:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/botswana-country-policy-and-information-notes/country-policy-and-information-note-women-fearing-gender-based-violence-botswana-december-2024-accessible#executive-summary
Women do not form a particular social group within the meaning of the Refugee Convention.Women are not likely to be at risk of GBV from non-state actors amounting to persecution or serious, although individuals may face discrimination and violence.Protection is likely to be available.Internal relocation is likely to be viable.Where a claim is refused, it is likely to be certified as ‘clearly unfounded’.All cases must be considered on their individual facts, with the onus on the person to demonstrate they face persecution or serious harm.
Women are not likely to be at risk of GBV from non-state actors amounting to persecution or serious, although individuals may face discrimination and violence.
Protection is likely to be available.
Internal relocation is likely to be viable.
Where a claim is refused, it is likely to be certified as ‘clearly unfounded’.
All cases must be considered on their individual facts, with the onus on the person to demonstrate they face persecution or serious harm.
Tl;dr may not meet criteria for being a refugee but…misuse of the immigration system? What a whiny fucking load of shit.
― just a happy-go-lucky pixie of some sort (gyac), Tuesday, 14 October 2025 17:33 (three weeks ago)
I notice Rachel Reeves seems to have dyed her hair Rayner red...
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 07:04 (three weeks ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/oct/15/adolescence-star-stephen-graham-launches-global-project-asking-fathers-to-write-to-their-sons
Write to your sons, but don't talk to them, because then we'd have to make this a podcast instead of a forthcoming book.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 15 October 2025 09:18 (three weeks ago)
loool - literally could make this shit up !
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 09:20 (three weeks ago)
It's fucking hilarious, the whole "talk to your sons" thing is such spurious bollocks, isolated from the myriad actual things that make up human relationships and of course from any systemic issues that challenge those, but this, boiled down to like men stoically writing a letter while a single tear trickles down their face, is such a perfect nexus of so much modern bullshit that usually floats around under the word "masculinity"
And that's not to say there aren't issues with men, just that the discourse is incapable of examining them meticulously.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 15 October 2025 09:32 (three weeks ago)
I had very a problematic and strained relationship with my quite typical Kerryman dad. But of all the terrible things that can blight a childhood, thank fuck that cunt never wrote a tear-stained letter to me. I'd need to go into therapy to deal with something as traumatic as that. Fucking hell people, stop encouraging Stephen Graham.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 09:46 (three weeks ago)
The idea for the book also grew out of Klein’s own experiment: when her son turned 13, she asked her male friends to write him letters offering advice about growing into adulthood. She talked about this with a mutual friend of Graham’s, who then put them in touch, knowing “there was an idea for a book there somewhere”.
Klein, whose academic work focuses on marginalisation, identity and youth culture, has previously worked on projects such as Room to Rant, which uses rap as a therapeutic tool for young men.
shit, time for a new character in my work in progress novel
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 15 October 2025 09:47 (three weeks ago)
More terrible behaviour in trying to make the terrible Your Party founding conference happen, as detailed here.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1978236961199423839.html
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 October 2025 09:51 (three weeks ago)
as the father of sons aged 11 and 14 would just like to say that writing a letter to them would involve way too much reading and embarrassment on their part, also first rule of this stuff is you let them come to you to discuss it, if you sit them down to discuss this Very Important Topic then you are forcing them into it and they will naturally rebel, "sit down and read this letter from me" is even worse, you're hectoring them and giving them extra homework.
― sent a message through the Internet but it rejected (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 09:55 (three weeks ago)
calz otm + lol
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 09:58 (three weeks ago)
My dad was the one who needed letters written to him offering advice about growing into adulthood tbh. When he was in his 40s.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 10:02 (three weeks ago)
^^^^
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 10:11 (three weeks ago)
Whole thing feels like "we need to reinforce normative family values better, lads"
― How We Choosed to Live (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 10:13 (three weeks ago)
The letter gimmick aside I also can't help thinking it would be more productive to talk to your son about what it means to be a good person and once that's sorted it won't really matter too much whether they then decide to grow a beard or play Call of Duty or whatever.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 10:27 (three weeks ago)
The project invites fathers around the world to write personal letters to their sons, reflecting on their experiences of fatherhood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XMDfMaKDa0
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 10:34 (three weeks ago)
Talk to your sons while playing Call Of Duty
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 15 October 2025 10:35 (three weeks ago)
"Son, the reason I shot you in the back was because my father did the same, metaphorically I mean"
Contribute to my book for free
― just a happy-go-lucky pixie of some sort (gyac), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 11:19 (three weeks ago)
Just realised he can call it Men 2 Boyz
― How We Choosed to Live (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 11:56 (three weeks ago)
You've Got Male
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 15 October 2025 11:58 (three weeks ago)
when an enormous pile of unsold books awaiting pulping falls over and fatally crushes 14 troubled young men who didn't have enough positive male role models, the shocking and stunning consequences for the author are too tragic and emotional to bear
― Sgt. Biscuits, Wednesday, 15 October 2025 12:10 (three weeks ago)
"they're all fucking... dead... they're all dead!"
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 15 October 2025 12:16 (three weeks ago)
I'm disappointed in Elon Musk. Just had my twitter account restricted for calling Darren Jones a human briefcase and imploring him to jump off a bridge for the good of humanity.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 17:52 (three weeks ago)
I was suffering from insomnia last night and reading the Holden book and becoming so enraged I barely could sleep at all.
Was reading the bit about the left-wing Jewish professor eremite getting slurred by the McSweeney antisemitism machine for simply repeating a story about a Jewish friend of his who had been kicked out of Labour for making a self-mocking "Jew process" pun in humour at a CLP. This professor had a whole branch of his family exterminated during the holocaust, and was being slurred by some English, white gentiles as an antisemite.
One of the slurrers was that dickhead who made up a Jewish sounding alt, something Gordstein, so he could seem more authoritative when slurring left-wing Jews on twitter. It's hard to read now, because at the time I was never sure enough to boldly call this out as a bullshit witchhunt. It was an evil bullshit witchhunt committed by some really fucking evil operators and McSweeney will burn in hell for his part in it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 17:56 (three weeks ago)
I don't know my dad and I don't speak to any of the men I've called stepdad in my life, guess I'm destined to join the Manosphere!
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 15 October 2025 19:25 (three weeks ago)
straight pipeline there I'm afraid, boxedjoy. You need to get a fucking netflix subscription and watch some absolute shite!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 19:30 (three weeks ago)
Nobody has ever mentioned this programme to me irl why does it have such a grip on our enfeebled pol/pundit class
― GY!BP (wins), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 20:43 (three weeks ago)
Guessing you don't interact with a lot of parents?
One lady from my book club mentioned her son scornfully replying to Starmer's "this should be shown in every school" with "well I'd like to force him to watch some Ken Loach films", the kids are all right.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 20:47 (three weeks ago)
Need to bottle that spirit Dan!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 20:52 (three weeks ago)
I'm so glad nobody I know watched it but I guess there's some core who did. I feel like all coworkers probably do, the same way all coworkers like other shit nobody you socialise with likes.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 15 October 2025 20:57 (three weeks ago)
I think I interact with a normal amount of parents!
― GY!BP (wins), Wednesday, 15 October 2025 21:00 (three weeks ago)
the same way all coworkers like other shit nobody you socialise with likes
I don't think I've ever seen my life summarised so succinctly tbh
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 16 October 2025 09:21 (three weeks ago)
Ah my colleagues and I often watch stuff in common though it’s cos as a cohort they tend to watch more TV than I do and so there’s more opportunity to overlap on something. My family though, entirely different story, almost zero overlap in shows we watch. I think Department Q (Netflix shite, calz) might be the last thing we all watched, but fair play to them, they love me and are indulgent when I’m talking about stuff I’m interested in, and so I manage the same level of interest when they’re talking about shite they like.
― just a happy-go-lucky pixie of some sort (gyac), Thursday, 16 October 2025 09:31 (three weeks ago)
I was talking to this young dude about tv the other day. He said he only watches movies and docs about Vikings these days and has watched all the netflix Vikings series twice. So I asked him have you seen The Northman yet? and he says yeah.. I thought it was shite!. So I said oh ok, have you seen Valhalla Rising? He says yeah I thought that was boring as fuck as well!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 October 2025 09:43 (three weeks ago)
my immediate team of ten, and our adjacent teams, all talk constantly about Bake Off, Love Island, Big Brother, MAFS and The Traitors. I don't know how they have time to keep up with all of that so it's no surprise they're not into anything else. I go into the office after a bank holiday weekend curious to see what everyone has been up to and the answer is always "oh, nothing" and I don't think it's a disguise for debauchery and adventure, I think they genuinely do nothing
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 16 October 2025 09:48 (three weeks ago)
Yeah I’m not into any of the above really but people love them so from osmosis I can kind of nod along etc, LI I really only see when I’m home in the summer because the female members of my family are obsessed with it and discuss their favourite storylines. Not for me, Clive. But as someone who rewatches shows as background to washing dishes/doing other things or whatever it feels like that kind of thing more so than active watching. Honestly zero distaste for someone saying they “do nothing” though, work week is long, people get tired!
― just a happy-go-lucky pixie of some sort (gyac), Thursday, 16 October 2025 10:01 (three weeks ago)
I quite enjoyed Adolescence as a well-acted piece of drama, but the insistence of Kieth in turning it into Important National Conversation is toe-curling, and empowering (and monetising) Stephen Graham into some sort of Toxic Masculinity Tsar off the back of it is insane.
― ailsa, Thursday, 16 October 2025 10:07 (three weeks ago)
Adolescence was fine, episodes 3 and 4 were actually good, the lesson that should have been learned from it by the government is "make more weird TV dramas where you let people take creative control instead of designing it for a target audience, we used to be world leaders in this stuff and you've fucked it up by treating it as a business, just like you've fucked up everything else"
― sent a message through the Internet but it rejected (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 October 2025 10:27 (three weeks ago)
The Ken Loach comparison is spot on, art that makes a difference aims to put pressure on the government, not "raise awareness" especially with teenagers, who can't even vote.
― sent a message through the Internet but it rejected (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 October 2025 10:30 (three weeks ago)
― ailsa, Thursday, 16 October 2025 10:43 (three weeks ago)
Yes and they don't need to see any of it anyway, they already know!
Same parent also reported that her local school got some calls from confused parents who had taken Starmer's instructions literally and were like "but we don't have netflix?".
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 16 October 2025 10:46 (three weeks ago)
They (Kieth and his advisors) should all watch Years and Years, but they're probably trying to work out ways of silencing Sally Wainwright instead, lest lefty shouty women start getting ideas.
― ailsa, Thursday, 16 October 2025 10:48 (three weeks ago)
"parents who had taken Starmer's instructions literally"
it depresses me that there are still ppl out there who are not aware of what a hollow, braindead, dishonest operator Starmer is. And still think he actually says anything in good faith and that people should earnestly take any advice from such a creepy charlatan. There needs to be a netflix series about Labour Together and the fake antisemitism scam that ensured we now live under a corrupt, pro-genocide austerity government.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 October 2025 11:06 (three weeks ago)
Stephen Graham is either a total fucking cretin or quite a sinister state asset/propagandist, perhaps even a good deal of both tbf.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 October 2025 11:08 (three weeks ago)
it depresses me that there are still ppl out there who are not aware of what a hollow, braindead, dishonest operator Starmer is. And still think he actually says anything in good faith
I'm frankly not sure whether it was that or whether they genuinely thought the UK government has dictated all school age children must watch the show, legally like
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 16 October 2025 11:25 (three weeks ago)
Well, yes, people have been arrested for less in recent times.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 October 2025 11:37 (three weeks ago)
Didn't they say something like schools will be able to watch it for free. But presumably nothing happened that would facilitate that?
Like that theory that when you say it'd be nice to do something you don't do and still gain fifty per cent of the good feeling.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 16 October 2025 11:49 (three weeks ago)
It's sad they never offered this for Squid Game
― How We Choosed to Live (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 October 2025 11:53 (three weeks ago)
Or Come Dine With Me
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 16 October 2025 11:53 (three weeks ago)
I enjoyed Years And Years but the ending, where the internment camp for refugees was revealed and it was an immediate national scandal which led to the fall of the government, that was never really plausible and now seems grimly hilarious, which country does RTD imagine he's writing about here?
― sent a message through the Internet but it rejected (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 October 2025 12:10 (three weeks ago)
Varoufakis is a bit of a knob but can be an eloquent talker. Other day I heard him on some clip about Starmer saying: He's a man who is incapable of looking into a moral void without jumping headlong into it.
But I guess too many people in the UK are just as fucking horrible as him. I feel sad to live in this shithole, but at least my citizenship is safe. So many ppl don't have that luxury.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 October 2025 13:05 (three weeks ago)
Oh yeah, the idea that a disabled activist could get people on the side of refugees is ludicrous. It didn't seem *quite* so farfetched first time round, but then I didn't foresee overthrowing the Tories for Labour to lead us even further to the right.
― ailsa, Thursday, 16 October 2025 14:05 (three weeks ago)
Hardly surpising but worth posting.
Every quarter since Labour took power has set a new record high for homeless families in England. Today's update takes the figure to 172,000 children in temporary accommodation. This is the primary metric on which I will judge Labour on housing. It is failing badly.— Peter Apps (@PeteApps) October 16, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 October 2025 15:26 (three weeks ago)
Steve Reed (cuntish housing minister with execrable "Build Baby Build" cap) doesn't care about homeless people. They are building fucking ghosthouses that will be bought up en-masse by BlackRock. There is not even a shortage of housing stock per-capita in the UK. It's who owns the housing stock that has escalated the crisis. I fucking hate these cunts
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 October 2025 16:03 (three weeks ago)
Steve Reed is that dodgy former Croydon Council arse, right? ISTR he is mixed up with David Evans’ bullshit.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 16 October 2025 16:05 (three weeks ago)
Yeah and he has smeared an industrial amount of Labour members as antisemites based on nothing much at all, then when he called Phillip Desmond "the master of puppets" his apologists said it was an honest mistake and he wouldn't have used a classic antisemitic slur on someone, had he known he was Jewish. He's an absolute cunt.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 October 2025 16:17 (three weeks ago)
https://www.thecanary.co/uk/news/2025/10/14/steve-reed-the-fraud/
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 16 October 2025 16:22 (three weeks ago)
Ca see Reed becoming a sacrifical lamb at some point
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 16 October 2025 16:24 (three weeks ago)
unfortunately his catastrophic housing policy is all you are going to get from these cunts
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 October 2025 17:01 (three weeks ago)
(xp) Not soon enough.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 October 2025 17:03 (three weeks ago)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cy9pjv59w95o
no Maccabi Tel Aviv fans are allowed at the Villa Europa League game in November
― Sgt. Biscuits, Thursday, 16 October 2025 18:26 (three weeks ago)
Good, I could do without reading another article about a shameful spontaneous pogrom where you have to get 10 paras in before they mention the hooligans singing about dead Arab children
― fact checking suz (wins), Thursday, 16 October 2025 18:35 (three weeks ago)
(Not minimising that aspect of what happened in the Netherlands at all, those nazis can also die)
― fact checking suz (wins), Thursday, 16 October 2025 18:37 (three weeks ago)
some big IDF Maccabi ultra gets gently shoved by a 9 year old girl while trying to rip a Palestine flag down of a random house near Villa Park. OMG it's the first Jewish blood spilled in the UK since the Clifford's Tower massacre!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 October 2025 18:42 (three weeks ago)
This fucking twat.The move was condemned by Keir Starmer who said: “This is the wrong decision. We will not tolerate antisemitism on our streets.
― nashwan, Thursday, 16 October 2025 20:49 (three weeks ago)
Can't we just murder him for the sake of humanity?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 October 2025 21:12 (three weeks ago)
or just for the sake of rarely feeling better for a day
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 October 2025 21:19 (three weeks ago)
dear AI spymasters, dearest calz doesn't mean it, he's just seen his team lose at home after being 1-0 up in the 93rd minute, this is completely understandable
― imago, Thursday, 16 October 2025 21:19 (three weeks ago)
oh he does mean it? ah okay, that's also understandable
― imago, Thursday, 16 October 2025 21:21 (three weeks ago)
honestly MI5 AI scraper, I have already given up on them cunts weeks ago and genuinely mean every word of it literally tbh, lol!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 October 2025 21:23 (three weeks ago)
:D
― imago, Thursday, 16 October 2025 21:23 (three weeks ago)
I welcome the news that Maccabi Tel Aviv fans will not be permitted to watch the match at Aston Villa! Well done to all those that signed our petition! pic.twitter.com/cRDtdDc7ad— Ayoub Khan MP (@AyoubKhanMP) October 16, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 October 2025 04:58 (three weeks ago)
Developers will be allowed to build lower numbers of affordable homes and claim higher subsidies to build them under plans being drawn up by the government to solve London’s housebuilding crisis.Steve Reed, the housing secretary, and Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London, will announce the package within weeks, in what officials say will be a time-limited intervention designed to stall the sudden drop in new building in the capital.The plans, details of which are still being negotiated, have been welcomed by developers but condemned by homelessness charities who say it will increase the record numbers of people who are homeless in the UK.
Steve Reed, the housing secretary, and Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London, will announce the package within weeks, in what officials say will be a time-limited intervention designed to stall the sudden drop in new building in the capital.
The plans, details of which are still being negotiated, have been welcomed by developers but condemned by homelessness charities who say it will increase the record numbers of people who are homeless in the UK.
Khan can go fuck himself into oblivion as well
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 October 2025 06:26 (three weeks ago)
"to build lower numbers of affordable homes...to solve London's housebuilding crisis"
make it make sense
― How We Choosed to Live (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 October 2025 06:29 (three weeks ago)
just a basic transcription of what thoroughly corrupt technocrats are saying, but allegedly written by a journalist
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 October 2025 06:36 (three weeks ago)
it's the Graun - they got rid of all their journalists years ago
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 October 2025 06:41 (three weeks ago)
Starmer and McSweeney have destroyed the Labour Party. They’d be doorstepping Corbyn’s home if he had ever posted these numbers. But the journo lobby pack will quietly ignore this now as they were fully invested in this gigantic fraud of the British people https://t.co/yI7mOZYXx7— Stephen Smith (@SteveNickSmith) October 16, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 October 2025 06:54 (three weeks ago)
government policy now to allow maccabi fans to get filled in
― ||||||||, Friday, 17 October 2025 07:59 (three weeks ago)
Apparently this is a national disgrace, according to the government, opposition and all major media outlets. Ironically the English football hooligan fraternity (and their counterparts at Ibrox) are all fervently pro-Israel these days.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 17 October 2025 08:19 (three weeks ago)
They are playing with fire if they try and reverse. This is all 'optics' for racists but if they do reverse it and someone gets killed what then?
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 October 2025 08:27 (three weeks ago)
we're going to have to hear about it for the rest of eternity too, the perfect storm of football, Israel, supposed antisemitism and "Birmingham is under Sharia Law" bollocks until the heat-death of the universe
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 17 October 2025 08:31 (three weeks ago)
that's a shame I was just savouring some Dan Hodges tears
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 October 2025 08:33 (three weeks ago)
Obviously he’s an utter nobody but this quote from Tim Farron the hooligan understander is impressively wrong:
“‘We’re not banning them because they’re Jewish, it’s because they’re hooligans …’ is the risible defence for the ban from people who know nothing about football or hooliganism, but are desperate not to acknowledge or admit their own racism. This is a stain on Britain.”
― crisp, Friday, 17 October 2025 10:16 (three weeks ago)
i see https://t.co/rC9vWpgUsX pic.twitter.com/8q2USXDSPB— a rare photo of sean connery signed by roger moore (@steamedhamms) October 17, 2025
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 17 October 2025 11:30 (three weeks ago)
Our Israeli-bought political and media class are genuinely psychopathic.
when you have a set of ultra-violent hooligans that sing about murdering children and let off fireworks during a minute's silence for the Valencia flood victims. You can always be sure that Kieth will have their back as long as they are fascists.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 October 2025 11:32 (three weeks ago)
Would love to know how this polls with normal people, or even Reform voters.
― ShariVari, Friday, 17 October 2025 12:27 (three weeks ago)
Green party calls for all Israeli teams to be banned from international competitions because of events in GazaThe Green party has issued a statement on the Maccabi Tel Aviv fans ban, in a comment from its co-deputy leader, Mothin Ali, a Leeds councillor.He has criticised Keir Starmer for trying to over-rule an operatational decision taken by the police. Ali said: Everyone should be able to feel safe when they attend a football match, that’s non-negotiable. It’s irresponsible for Keir Starmer to question a safety decision of a local authority, especially when he is responsible for their chronic underfunding.Ali went on to implicitly defend the plan, but he also went much further – saying all Israeli teams should be banned from international competitions because of what is happening in Gaza. He said:Under normal circumstances, supporters from across the fanbase should be allowed to attend and provision taken to ban violent elements such as The Ultras. But these are not normal circumstances: these games are taking place in the context of thousands of civilians being killed in Gaza, the illegal occupation of Palestinian land, and the upholding of a system of apartheid.This raises serious moral questions for the UK, UEFA, and the wider football community. We need a sporting and cultural boycott of all Israeli teams, like we saw for South African teams under apartheid. International sporting bodies can and must take a stand when basic human rights are being violated.Football should be a force for peace and justice, not a tool to sportwash atrocities.
The Green party has issued a statement on the Maccabi Tel Aviv fans ban, in a comment from its co-deputy leader, Mothin Ali, a Leeds councillor.
He has criticised Keir Starmer for trying to over-rule an operatational decision taken by the police. Ali said:
Everyone should be able to feel safe when they attend a football match, that’s non-negotiable. It’s irresponsible for Keir Starmer to question a safety decision of a local authority, especially when he is responsible for their chronic underfunding.
Ali went on to implicitly defend the plan, but he also went much further – saying all Israeli teams should be banned from international competitions because of what is happening in Gaza. He said:
Under normal circumstances, supporters from across the fanbase should be allowed to attend and provision taken to ban violent elements such as The Ultras. But these are not normal circumstances: these games are taking place in the context of thousands of civilians being killed in Gaza, the illegal occupation of Palestinian land, and the upholding of a system of apartheid.
This raises serious moral questions for the UK, UEFA, and the wider football community. We need a sporting and cultural boycott of all Israeli teams, like we saw for South African teams under apartheid. International sporting bodies can and must take a stand when basic human rights are being violated.
Football should be a force for peace and justice, not a tool to sportwash atrocities.
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Friday, 17 October 2025 12:37 (three weeks ago)
The main danger if Maccabi are allowed to play would be from their hooligans teaming up with British far right thugs to rampage through certain areas of Birmingham but that doesn't seem be getting mentioned anywhere.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 17 October 2025 12:54 (three weeks ago)
The contortions of logic going on in this country feel more and more unsustainable.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 17 October 2025 13:03 (three weeks ago)
Not to sound like Spock
Kieth will bend all logic and reasoning to try and keep right-wing zionist Jews on his side - yet they absolutely fucking despise him and call him every traitorous name under the sun, lol.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 October 2025 13:08 (three weeks ago)
I'd wager this looks barking mad, corrupt, and partial to Israel to the median voter, and to many Reform voters.
The main point of this is nothing to do with football, antisemitism, or even Islamophobia as such: it's the utterly corrupt and fruitless project of normalising a genocidal terrorist state because it's America's no 1 ally (and additionally because it is the political exemplar of racist neofascism that the West wishes to emulate)
It is clear that with this ceasefire Western governments and media want us all to let bygones be bygones.Never. Israel committed a genocide, we all witnessed the most obscene violence it is possible to imagine, and we need to see the perpetrators locked up in The Hague.— Jason Hickel (@jasonhickel) October 13, 2025
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 17 October 2025 13:09 (three weeks ago)
To clarify, what I mean by "this" is the wanton expenditure of political capital by so many in the political class and the media from the pm on down
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 17 October 2025 13:17 (three weeks ago)
In better news:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/17/legal-challenge-to-palestine-action-ban-can-go-ahead-court-rules
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 17 October 2025 13:20 (three weeks ago)
There's something really unsettling in the forthright delusional pushback coming from Labour on this. V reminiscent of the US right. A completely different perception of reality.Disingenuous and/or wilfully ignorant of the widely shared incidents in Amsterdam where some MTA fans clearly instigated trouble. Never even acknowledging this in their pious and pompous statements in order to at least argue against collective punishment is quite the tell.
― nashwan, Friday, 17 October 2025 13:25 (three weeks ago)
Not just Labour btw, they're all at it, trying to outdo each other.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 17 October 2025 13:30 (three weeks ago)
that's the thing, i don't think this is about anything global it all, it's just uk politics has straitjacketed itself.
there's absolute open country for a party to just make it clear they want a fair and compassionate country, end to culture war etc, they prob wouldn't even need any substantive policies beyond that rhetoric to do p well, but i do hope they have some, presuming this is what the greens are going to do.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 17 October 2025 13:50 (three weeks ago)
hence the Green party under Polanski doubling their membership over weeks.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 October 2025 14:17 (three weeks ago)
maybe some hyperbole from me there, I think it was a 50 % increase
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 October 2025 14:18 (three weeks ago)
there is only really Jam-man, Polanski and the really dull SNP guy who aren't completely radge in UK politics rn. It's quite funny that the most uncharismatic and dull SNP leader in their history is going to have their best ever results in the next GE and absolutely wipe out both Tories and Labour in Scotland.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 October 2025 14:21 (three weeks ago)
Right wing journo is a little Nazi shit shockah
A mainstream “journalist” calling for a British MP to be deported. Is it because I’m Muslim? Next time, just say it with your chest.They’ll tell you fascism in this country is a working-class phenomenon. That’s a lie.It’s the ruling class, and their snivelling lackeys like… pic.twitter.com/E8xoPvjrn4— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) October 17, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 October 2025 16:45 (three weeks ago)
Robert Jenrick asks: whither the good-natured football hooliganism of the 1980s?
Something has fundamentally changed in Birmingham. And Britain, too, has changed with it.Consider football: the rough and tumble of our national game is nothing new for the West Midlands. Growing up in the eighties, my Dad took me to more than a few matches at Villa Park in the away end. The language, chants, and antics were – at times – less than well-mannered.But it was largely good-natured fun. Where there was violence, the police put a quick but firm end to it. Such was the rhythm of British life. The same men and women worked together all week, turning up and supporting different teams on a Saturday.
Consider football: the rough and tumble of our national game is nothing new for the West Midlands. Growing up in the eighties, my Dad took me to more than a few matches at Villa Park in the away end. The language, chants, and antics were – at times – less than well-mannered.
But it was largely good-natured fun. Where there was violence, the police put a quick but firm end to it. Such was the rhythm of British life. The same men and women worked together all week, turning up and supporting different teams on a Saturday.
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Friday, 17 October 2025 17:46 (three weeks ago)
His party also wanted to bring in football fan ID cards, stfu Jendick.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 17 October 2025 17:50 (three weeks ago)
But it was largely good-natured funBut it was largely good-natured funBut it was largely good-natured funBut it was largely good-natured fun
― so far so noir (Matt #2), Friday, 17 October 2025 17:51 (three weeks ago)
Yes good-natured fun was why English clubs were banned from European competitions for five years in the 80s. Why do these posh cretins always (pretend to) support Aston Villa?
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 17 October 2025 18:04 (three weeks ago)
... no hold on, he was at the away end at Villa Park?
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 17 October 2025 18:05 (three weeks ago)
Robert Jenrick might have been born in Wolverhampton (sorry NV) but he grew up in fucking Herefordshire. I'm not taking his fucking 80's football stand memoria as anything other than utter fucking bullshit from a poshboy cunt.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 October 2025 18:10 (three weeks ago)
He’s from Wolverhampton.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 17 October 2025 18:10 (three weeks ago)
Britons tend to think it was the right decision to ban fans of Israeli football club Maccabi Tel Aviv from attending a match against Aston Villa next month, a fixture classified by West Midlands Police of being 'high risk'Right decision: 42%Wrong decision: 28% pic.twitter.com/9M3Mmeuc9g— YouGov (@YouGov) October 17, 2025
28% of the public and 98% of the political class.
― ShariVari, Friday, 17 October 2025 18:14 (three weeks ago)
the very cohort that needs exterminating!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 October 2025 18:15 (three weeks ago)
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 17 October 2025 18:16 (three weeks ago)
He was also born in 1982, so we're to believe he was regularly taken to watch Hereford United playing at Villa Park from the ages of 0 to 8 years.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 17 October 2025 18:20 (three weeks ago)
OG Ultra Edward Elgar used to cycle to the Mol from his home in Worcester so posh boys doing tourism is not a new thing for us
― Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 October 2025 18:31 (three weeks ago)
I went to football regularly in the 80's, some of those occasions are the most scared I have ever been, of course it was probably my snowflake tendencies that led me to find being chased through a park and on another occasion over a railway line somewhat unsettling, and not just a bit of banter.
― oscar bravo, Friday, 17 October 2025 20:16 (three weeks ago)
Not one mention of the communities that will be affected, or that the far right will be looking for a fight.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/oct/17/maccabi-tel-aviv-fans-banned-aston-villa
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 October 2025 20:40 (three weeks ago)
I can just imagine what Benjamin Zephaniah would have said to that cunt.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 17 October 2025 21:11 (three weeks ago)
I could never stand Barney Ronay anyway,
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 17 October 2025 21:14 (three weeks ago)
He overwrites like crazy. Turns that his politics sucks too
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 October 2025 05:34 (three weeks ago)
Funny how the government social media account are aping Trump's game.
Someone said its all so childish, but what's left
We’re banishing the planning barriers that are holding back growth. We're going to get Britain building again. pic.twitter.com/JZsnJHpLTd— Ministry of Housing, Communities & Local Gov (@mhclg) October 16, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 October 2025 06:31 (three weeks ago)
I bought the Holden book and in the preface he talks about how great Matt Taibbi is and the Twitter files investigation and my enthusiasm for this book has somewhat cooled
― plax (ico), Saturday, 18 October 2025 07:20 (three weeks ago)
ffs! I bought the e-pub which mercifully had no preface. His investigative work is solid and he hits his targets with satisfactory precision is my take so far.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 18 October 2025 08:18 (three weeks ago)
also a blurb quote from fake-left plonker OJ is not really a good recommendation for anything. Holden is friends with fellow SA expat Feinstein but I'm sure if he is a leftie. But his rep as an investigative journalist is more than solid.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 18 October 2025 08:21 (three weeks ago)
*not* sure
I already despised Steve Reed and vaguely remembered the Croydon stuff, but after reading about his persistently deviant and evil activities as a Labour Together *activist* I want to see the guy getting liquidated by aircraft gunfire after having all his skin peeled off, slowly.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 18 October 2025 08:51 (three weeks ago)
“build baby build” says one of the most wrecking xunts going
― ||||||||, Saturday, 18 October 2025 09:09 (three weeks ago)
now deleted https://t.co/RNCqVGWkit pic.twitter.com/JUHs8nfStR— stone cold 𓅃 (@largacty1) October 18, 2025
this bit of bullshit didn't last very long
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 18 October 2025 10:14 (three weeks ago)
They reposted it with a correction to say he’s not Jewish. They’re still taking the line that the guy Israel pays to say they should kill Al Jazeera journalists is a credible source on the basis of his ‘honorary founding membership’ of a supporters’ club nobody has been able to track down a second member of.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 18 October 2025 10:23 (three weeks ago)
lol, another fantastic addition to the wider Aston Villa fans community
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 18 October 2025 10:26 (three weeks ago)
Maccabi Tel Aviv fans not allowed to attend Aston Villa UEFA Europa match due to safety concerns.This is what happened last time the genocidal racist violent hooligans visited Europe @pularjs pic.twitter.com/uxqMkRx8tT— Double Down News (@DoubleDownNews) October 16, 2025
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 October 2025 10:51 (three weeks ago)
What's amazing, but not really amazing, is that the motivations for all this gaslighting are in plain sight. The battle lines are fucking obvious. Fascists who would've been gleefully, openly antisemitic in a different era are waving their support for Israel purely as a stick to beat the lesser races with. And yet the government and their handlers are entirely happy to wave along. This shit isn't even complicated or obscure.
― Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 October 2025 11:00 (three weeks ago)
The brazenness of it now is reaching Goebbelsesque heights of propagandistic lying. It can't work though, it just pits the public even more against the media and political class, because they're now not just smearing lefty scum like in 2015-2020, they're now smearing the police, football fans, ordinary citizens. You'd imagine that whatever they are saying in public, Reform are making hay of this in their private groupchats, emphasizing how Westminster puts the interests of (very particular) foreigners over the safety of British families. Labour deserve the backlash, but we don't deserve what that will lead to.
Saw this by Matt Zarb, and, well, it's something to think about:
My assumption is many of the journalists and pundits who have doubled down on their support for Israel, despite the horrors in Gaza becoming even more apparent, have calculated that they’re going to need the support of the Israeli government when they end up in front of The Hague— Matt Zarb-Cousin (@mattzarb) October 18, 2025
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 18 October 2025 14:19 (three weeks ago)
if we actually had a functional ICJ that was powerful and not just concerned with going after African and South Asian war criminals, then pack your soap Lammy it's going to be a long haul you horrendous excuse for a human being. I really hope this happens, but I just can't imagine it happening.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 18 October 2025 14:54 (three weeks ago)
apparently UK special forces, you know those fuckers get celebrated as cartoon heroes on shitty bbc tv series. Apparently they have been involved in the slaughter of civilians in Gaza. Need some whistle-blowers to come out. Need to drag Kieth and Lammy, kicking and screaming to the gallows.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 18 October 2025 14:57 (three weeks ago)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 18 October 2025 15:00 (three weeks ago)
One obvious effect of pols & press insisting 2+2=5 is the erosion of trust makes certain ppl way more susceptible to particular unsavoury conspiracy theories/fringe groups. The harm caused to communities by this cynicism & cowardice (& racism obv) is irrelevant to these cunts & it only seems to be getting worse
― fact checking suz (wins), Saturday, 18 October 2025 15:38 (three weeks ago)
Yeah the death of the truth truthor does not ultimately play well for libs
― Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 October 2025 15:41 (three weeks ago)
Oh man that looked cute before autocorrect dipped in
― Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 October 2025 15:42 (three weeks ago)
was listening to a podcast last night, the point was made that there is no emergency govt meeting to address the crisis that has seen the highest number of homeless children in the UK since the Victorian era under a Labour govt. No they have had an emergency meeting to work out how to mollycoddle a bunch of fascist, psychopathic football hooligans who sing about murdering children and raping women.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 18 October 2025 16:11 (three weeks ago)
It's not complicated, poor people and non-whites are entirely the authors of their own misfortune and fuck em, it's not like they're human
― Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 October 2025 16:16 (three weeks ago)
The Green Party now has 124,000 members, more than the Conservative Party.— BladeoftheSun (@BladeoftheS) October 18, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 18 October 2025 21:25 (three weeks ago)
low bar obv, but they have travelled a long way.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 18 October 2025 21:27 (three weeks ago)
Katie Lam -- who has been talked about as future Tory leader and will clearly make a move -- is going for ILR, in that it could be scrapped.
https://bsky.app/profile/sundersays.bsky.social/post/3m3iuvdufyc2t
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 19 October 2025 11:45 (three weeks ago)
I expect British passport holders who weren't born here to be next btw, but I also think they won't even get to ILR as we will have bigger problems.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 19 October 2025 11:47 (three weeks ago)
Her paternal grandfather's family is of Dutch Jewish descent and her paternal grandmother's family were from Germany
― Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 October 2025 12:50 (three weeks ago)
And that was right because that was then, but this is now, and she'd like to be prime minister.
https://bsky.app/profile/sundersays.bsky.social/post/3m3iwopc2kc2t
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 19 October 2025 14:04 (three weeks ago)
This view is informed by the stark contrast between her idyllic childhood and her grandparents' tales of horror and cruelty. Her paternal grandmother's family were involved in German trade unions and socialist politics.They fled and hid from the Nazis, enduring imprisonment and SS raids before eventually making their way to England."This is a fight in which one part of my family was obliterated and another part of my family risked everything basically to do the right thing and in the end this country saved them and the free world," she says. "That sets the stage for a lot of how I feel about politics."Our current system of rights and laws was created in the shadow of the Second World War. A committed Brexiteer, Lam believes these structures are no longer fit for purpose.."It was a totally understandable reaction at the time," she says. "Put simply, the international rules-based order is based on the idea that everyone would want to be nice to each other post-war. The reality is that's not true and loads of people will exploit that generosity. If we're not going to stand up for ourselves, we will lose the most precious things that we have."
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 19 October 2025 14:16 (three weeks ago)
if Lam is supposed to be the Tories saviour after all the boomers have died off, then they might really be fucked.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 19 October 2025 14:19 (three weeks ago)
BREAKING: Tel Aviv derby football match cancelled after riots broke out in and around the stadiumhttps://t.co/G8gDzyqv3Q📺 Sky 501, Virgin 602, Freeview 233 and YouTube pic.twitter.com/85XBwryrXL— Sky News (@SkyNews) October 19, 2025
― ShariVari, Sunday, 19 October 2025 19:50 (three weeks ago)
is this an example of Israeli antisemitism? Fuck knows I'm quite confused at this point, doc!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 19 October 2025 19:54 (three weeks ago)
why have Aston Villa done this?
― Sgt. Biscuits, Sunday, 19 October 2025 20:32 (three weeks ago)
A statement from Israeli police said the game was called off "following disturbances and risks to human life".
Shameful from the police, creating no go areas for Israelis
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 19 October 2025 20:37 (three weeks ago)
Villa do deserve to be unfairly blamed to some extent tbf, just for having the vilest celebrity and Tory fanbase of any English football club!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 19 October 2025 20:41 (three weeks ago)
Disgraceful that Tel Aviv is a no go area for Jews.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 October 2025 20:41 (three weeks ago)
It's that Zack Polanski's fault.
― sent a message through the Internet but it rejected (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 19 October 2025 21:01 (three weeks ago)
I love the way Zack and Mothin do social media. The other day some racist prick was attacking Mothin and saying something about him being a terrorist lover and sucking his own dick. And he retorted with I'm not flexible to do a self-blowjob, mate!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 19 October 2025 21:06 (three weeks ago)
Might as well get chat gpt to do it
EXC: Teachers, not councils, will take a greater role in assessing children with special educational needs and disabilities, the Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson has revealed in an interview with @theipaper— Kitty Donaldson (@kitty_donaldson) October 19, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 October 2025 09:27 (two weeks ago)
Somebody's definitely been schooling Phillipson on her frighteningly robotic demeanor in media interviews, I saw her on Sky this morning and all of a sudden she's all (unconvincing) smiles.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Monday, 20 October 2025 09:36 (two weeks ago)
she uploaded a pic of her with her mam and I just completely forgot she is piece of human garbage that is completely owned by the billionaire's self-interest group Labour Together. Now I see Labour as such a fucking immensely working class aligned party!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 20 October 2025 09:46 (two weeks ago)
My instagram algorithm is really pushing for me to vote Plaid Cymru. Don't know if they'll be standing in Stoke Newington tbh.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 20 October 2025 10:07 (two weeks ago)
Now maybe EHCPs have changed in the last 5 years but they have always been led by SENCOs and SEND specialists. Input from local authorities basically comes from people who also understand SEND. I wouldn't say Phillipson is fronting cos it's just as likely she's pig ignorant.
― Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 October 2025 11:18 (two weeks ago)
i just see it as a move to empower parents to harass teachers more
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Monday, 20 October 2025 11:57 (two weeks ago)
Quick skim of this good piece by Vittles on Gail's, though its hardly surprising as much of this can be generalised to hospitality. Very much where we are at with migration work, and given where we are at in the dicourse it will get a lot, lot worse.
https://www.vittlesmagazine.com/p/at-gails-what-is-the-human-cost-behind
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 October 2025 12:02 (two weeks ago)
I'd already stopped using Gail's years ago as read somewhere they are massive Brexiter Tories. Not a difficult choice since their bread is no better than average anyway, though even if it was good it wouldn't matter.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 20 October 2025 12:17 (two weeks ago)
xps re EHCP
as Labour are a bunch of austerity briefcase cunts I just assume it will be a shit change (just like literally everything they do) and just basically result in many SEN students ending up with no education package and absolutely fuck all help. I might be wrong but I find it impossible to believe that anything these fucking loathsome rodents implement is ever going to be progressive (unless by accident) and the aim always is going to be to save money and dishonest bullshit will be the order of the day, rather than any honest comms to address any concerns. Anyway lots of SEN students are already ending up with nothing because of cuts. I guess I just have a kind of Labour derangement syndrome where I find it impossible to agree with any reforms they do at all, unless they are planning to all top themselves with arsenic and anthrax laden full english breakfasts.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 20 October 2025 12:21 (two weeks ago)
Halfway through this, really good piece. Agreed that it's representative of many other places, and "franchise explores foreign workers" won't shock many in 2025, but the details of Gail's particular fuckery and how these dovetailed with Modi's policies is still very interesting.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 20 October 2025 12:45 (two weeks ago)
Ues, the Gujarat dimension was quite surprising.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 October 2025 12:57 (two weeks ago)
**Yes
Vile organization.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Monday, 20 October 2025 13:11 (two weeks ago)
To return briefly to the Maccabi Tel Aviv debacle, this happened at Villa Park two years ago:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/november/30/club-statement-aston-villa-legia-warszawa/
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Monday, 20 October 2025 14:11 (two weeks ago)
Appreciate the Vittles piece. No district in London is safe from Gail's now. They just opened on Streatham High Rd and idk if I'd have had the willpower to permanently avoid their best offerings the focaccia and scones (the prices also help here tho).
― nashwan, Monday, 20 October 2025 15:02 (two weeks ago)
Every March Gail’s sell hamantaschen cookies for Purim that are maybe two inches long and charge £3 each (if you went to the kosher bakery in Stamford Hill you’d pay £10/kilo). This is some kind of hate crime.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 20 October 2025 15:38 (two weeks ago)
government's continued advocacy for the rights of football hooligans has me worrying i've lost contact with reality at this point
― Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 October 2025 16:17 (two weeks ago)
thread from Ally Fogg who I think can be trusted on these matters
Absolutely astonishing display of gaslighting & dishonesty from Lisa Nandy in the Commons. She just said "It's unprecedented" for police to refuse permission for away fans to travel to football matches. What, apart from all the times exactly that has happened, she means?— Ally Fogg (@AllyFogg) October 20, 2025
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 20 October 2025 17:13 (two weeks ago)
Nandy also claims to be fighting to protect the reputation of the UK as a tolerant nation, by inviting some ultraviolent racist psychos here for a massive dust up in the 2nd city. There is no point trying make sense of what Nandy says at best of times - but on Israel it is well documented how much money she gets from lobbyists. She has to give them some vfm by lying as hard as the IDF do on a daily basis.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 20 October 2025 17:32 (two weeks ago)
tbf not all the supporters of Maccabi Tel Aviv will actually be from Israel, some will be British, Tommy Robinson has promised to show up. Or is he Irish?
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Monday, 20 October 2025 17:34 (two weeks ago)
I’m not 100% sure the police have banned the sale of away tickets in European competitions before.
They shouldn’t have to. UEFA should have banned MTA from having fans travel outside of Serbia after the Ajax game. They’re above the law - both of normal football sanctions and, as Amsterdam showed, actual legal reprisals. The WMP shouldn’t have to be in a position to have to say ‘this bunch of thugs who we know will cause trouble and be whisked away on government planes the moment they get arrested can’t travel here’.
― ShariVari, Monday, 20 October 2025 17:55 (two weeks ago)
apparently in Amsterdam lots of incriminating cctv footage just magically disappeared as senile fuck Biden was declaring it a pogrom, like wtf are they playing at. Holland of all countries, and lots of very unwell members of the UK political classes willing to be so cucked by rampaging psycho thugs from a rogue genocide state. They have doubled down on this strangeness but a lot of them can't so lacking in self-awareness that they don't realise how preposterous this thing is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 20 October 2025 18:16 (two weeks ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3udjkRWUAAPmnx?format=jpg&name=medium
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 20 October 2025 19:08 (two weeks ago)
Current Italian government obviously still annoyed at the Germans for abandoning their guy Mussolini to his fate.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Monday, 20 October 2025 19:11 (two weeks ago)
Maccabi Feb Aviv have now put out a statement saying they will decline any ticket allocation because sinister actors have been slurring their fans as hooligans and created an unsafe atmosphere for them etc etc
― Sgt. Biscuits, Monday, 20 October 2025 21:08 (two weeks ago)
Tel Aviv obv
heh! how dare anyone slur these innocent choirboys, and once again Starmer on the wrong side of everything
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 20 October 2025 21:12 (two weeks ago)
the club that has history of fans physically attacking black or Arab players they signed talking bullshit shocker
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 20 October 2025 21:15 (two weeks ago)
I don't know how relieved to feel about this yet? flashing back to images of an empty away end with Legia fans all outside throwing missiles into the Holte in 2023
what an absolutely contemptible farce though, you think you couldn't like this government any less and then bam, new nadir
― Sgt. Biscuits, Monday, 20 October 2025 21:16 (two weeks ago)
Starmer outflanked to the left, from the fascist ownership behind the racist football club Maccabia Tel Aviv. that is foremsic.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 20 October 2025 21:26 (two weeks ago)
Maccabi Tel Afib
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Monday, 20 October 2025 21:48 (two weeks ago)
Psychotic that this total non story is being covered pretty much as breathlessly as when Diana died or something. It’s hard to square my experience as a human where I encounter and interact with roughly the same ratio of normal:weird people as I have done throughout my life, and my experience as a media consumer where every single voice I’m subjected to is that of a sociopathic lunatic.
― crisp, Monday, 20 October 2025 21:57 (two weeks ago)
don't hold your breath waiting for any acknowledgement of this...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/21/police-intelligence-on-extreme-maccabi-fans-with-history-of-violence-led-to-villa-park-ban
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Tuesday, 21 October 2025 19:22 (two weeks ago)
According to sources, police intelligence said: Scores of extreme Maccabi fans with a past history of violence and shouting “racist taunts” were expected to travel to the Birmingham game. Dutch police told their British counterparts that the Maccabi fans had instigated trouble in Amsterdam at a game last year. They had randomly picked Muslims in Amsterdam to attack. That led to reprisal violence with some Dutch Jews attacked. A huge Dutch police effort, involving 5,000 officers across three days, was needed to quell the trouble. A community impact assessment by West Midlands police recorded that some Jewish people wanted the Maccabi fans banned because of the trouble that might ensue if they attended. Any trouble started by Maccabi fans attending the Birmingham game could lead to reprisals from local people and further trouble. The process did not consider whether the ban on fans of the Israeli club could be criticised as antisemitic itself or surrendering to antisemitism.The ban on Maccabi fans was made by Birmingham’s Safety Advisory Group. It was decided after an intelligence assessment was conducted by West Midlands police, shared with the national UK football policing unit.The UK football policing unit is understood to have backed the conclusions reached by local police.
Scores of extreme Maccabi fans with a past history of violence and shouting “racist taunts” were expected to travel to the Birmingham game.
Dutch police told their British counterparts that the Maccabi fans had instigated trouble in Amsterdam at a game last year.
They had randomly picked Muslims in Amsterdam to attack. That led to reprisal violence with some Dutch Jews attacked.
A huge Dutch police effort, involving 5,000 officers across three days, was needed to quell the trouble.
A community impact assessment by West Midlands police recorded that some Jewish people wanted the Maccabi fans banned because of the trouble that might ensue if they attended.
Any trouble started by Maccabi fans attending the Birmingham game could lead to reprisals from local people and further trouble.
The process did not consider whether the ban on fans of the Israeli club could be criticised as antisemitic itself or surrendering to antisemitism.
The ban on Maccabi fans was made by Birmingham’s Safety Advisory Group. It was decided after an intelligence assessment was conducted by West Midlands police, shared with the national UK football policing unit.
The UK football policing unit is understood to have backed the conclusions reached by local police.
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Tuesday, 21 October 2025 19:25 (two weeks ago)
Well there's a surprise... I don't think.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 October 2025 19:42 (two weeks ago)
weird, I had assumed it was that the police are pro palestine
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 21 October 2025 20:45 (two weeks ago)
Had to look out that quote from Tim Farron - the man under whose leadership the number of Lib Dem MPs fell from 57 to 8 - it's a doozy:
‘We’re not banning them because they’re Jewish, it’s because they’re hooligans…’ is the risible defence for the MT ban from people who know nothing about football or hooliganism, but are desperate not to acknowledge or admit their own racism. This is a stain on Britain.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 October 2025 21:57 (two weeks ago)
lol, that cunt was the LibDem leader for only 2 years and would probably go down as one of their worst leaders, if not for the utterly frazzled right-wing lunatic Lembik Opik being just slightly more deranged than him.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 October 2025 07:30 (two weeks ago)
Opik wasn't the leader, was he? Surely Jo Swinson deserves a shout for general awfulness.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 22 October 2025 08:01 (two weeks ago)
that shows how much attention and respect I pay towards this party, lol. Charles Kennedy and Paddy Ashdown were principled dickheads at least. Swinson was one of the glorious FBPE Icarus(es) of that era, that sacrificed herself to help stop enable a hard Brexit and make sure we have eternal austerity in or out of the EU
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 October 2025 08:52 (two weeks ago)
tbf Charlie K was the only leading Lib Dem to oppose the coalition with the Tories, in contrast to the likes of Shirley Williams - promptly losing his seat to that odious little prick Ian Blackford at the next election!
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 October 2025 09:10 (two weeks ago)
there is something of a likeness between Farron and Davey, well obv they are both cunts. Farron using his christianity as a fig leaf for his homophobia. Davey using his severely disabled son as a campaign prop after being part of an austerity coalition that killed hundreds of thousands of disabled people. Both of them as evil as anyone on the hard right in UK politics.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 October 2025 09:26 (two weeks ago)
Jonathan Liew with a banger, wonder what Ronay makes of it
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/21/standing-with-maccabis-football-hooligans-against-local-police-is-that-what-patriotism-looks-like-now
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 22 October 2025 11:55 (two weeks ago)
or this random blogger
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3d5eg0W8AAS-Wa?format=jpg&name=900x900
― Number None, Wednesday, 22 October 2025 12:41 (two weeks ago)
so fucking outraged by this thing I just made up
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 22 October 2025 14:30 (two weeks ago)
some dick on TV accusing Polanski being a left-vote splitter who will put Reform into govt.
Polanski: yes, but it's incoherent to call the Labour Party left-wing.
"he can stay calm in an interview..."
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 October 2025 15:35 (two weeks ago)
we're already at the point where the people splitting the vote are the idiots clinging to Labour
― Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 October 2025 16:26 (two weeks ago)
Mike Graham ‘axed from Talk show’ after racist posts on Facebook accounthttps://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/mike-graham-axed-from-talk-show-after-racist-posts-on-facebook-account-399490/
― djmartian, Wednesday, 22 October 2025 16:41 (two weeks ago)
very smart guy who thought you could grow concrete says his account was hacked by someone using the exact same Churchill pic he posted on a twitter post within 2 mins
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 October 2025 16:57 (two weeks ago)
when I walk my dog around the neighbourhood I often see this guy with curly hair and say hello to him because he looks very familiar, so assumed I'd met him before but just forgotten where/when - and then a couple of weeks back I realised that he's the carpenter from the "you can't grow concrete" video and I've never actually spoken to him apart from our hellos every day, I've just watched that video so many times that he feels like an old friend
― sent a message through the Internet but it rejected (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 22 October 2025 18:15 (two weeks ago)
Lord Falconer says people with “learning difficulties or autism” could, with “proper assistance”, access assisted suicide.
You don't need a meteorologist to tell you which the wind is blowing. They gave this bill to the vacuous moron, Kim Shitbeater for a good reason. Because she's an incompetent careerist moron who will do any level of dangerous evil to maintain her MP career and the benefits that come with it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 October 2025 09:20 (two weeks ago)
This Lord Falconer seems like quite a fan of assisted suicide doesn't he? Perhaps someone will step up and help him out
― imago, Thursday, 23 October 2025 09:22 (two weeks ago)
I believe Spider Man fights Lord Falconer in a recent issue.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 23 October 2025 09:24 (two weeks ago)
the worse villains from the extended Blair universe never seems to fucking die off, alas
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 October 2025 09:25 (two weeks ago)
No killing what can't be killed
― Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 October 2025 09:42 (two weeks ago)
assisted exorcism
― imago, Thursday, 23 October 2025 09:43 (two weeks ago)
I’ve never heard the hate against disabled people this bad. Slurs I hadn’t heard in decades are back — said casually, even proudly. The language is rougher, more casual, more legitimised. Something ugly has been re-licensed.— Dr Jay Watts (@Shrink_at_Large) October 22, 2025
it's so fucking toxic out there right now and this is all on a Labour govt who are using disinformation and hate speech to try and justify austerity policies to slash spending on PIP/Motability just so they don't worry the billionaire paymasters behind the Labour Together thinktank that owns the PM and his entire cabinet. Just pure fucking evil being deployed in the name of corruption.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 October 2025 09:46 (two weeks ago)
it reminds me of how the "benefits scum" bigotry become very heightened and ubiquitous during the Cameron/Osborne years.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 October 2025 09:51 (two weeks ago)
Just to follow up on a talking point on some nightmarish British pol show. If anyone wants to try and get on the motability car scheme just from faking having anxiety issues. Try getting onto PIP, and then qualifying for motability. You've got more chance of getting struck by lighting whilst doing deep potholing in Welsh caves.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 October 2025 09:57 (two weeks ago)
Falconer's son - Westminster School, Cambridge, Yale, the diplomatic service, Labour Together - is a Labour MP and Parliamentary Under Secretary. Truly a meritocracy in action.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 October 2025 10:24 (two weeks ago)
he needed to stumble across ILX at 19 to set him on the true path
― imago, Thursday, 23 October 2025 10:28 (two weeks ago)
The good news is he's MP for Lincoln so will undoubtedly be wiped out by Reform in the next election.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 October 2025 10:41 (two weeks ago)
Looking at this we will all have to become vegan soon.
https://archive.ph/M5cYi
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 October 2025 11:57 (two weeks ago)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cglgk5p1l33t
"Soldier F has been found not guilty of murdering two people on Bloody Sunday in Londonderry in 1972
The former paratrooper - who cannot be named because of a court order - was also found not guilty of five counts of attempted murder"
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 October 2025 14:03 (two weeks ago)
"The trial took place without a jury, with verdicts delivered by Judge Patrick Lynch"...
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 October 2025 14:05 (two weeks ago)
As expected tbh.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 October 2025 14:07 (two weeks ago)
Hey at least justice has been seen to be oh never mind
― Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 October 2025 14:15 (two weeks ago)
one very happy human rights lawyer in Holborn, today. And not because his fave Ukrainian boy has come to visit him
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 October 2025 14:16 (two weeks ago)
Looking at this we will all have to become vegan soon.https://archive.ph/M5cYi― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 October 2025 11:57 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 October 2025 11:57 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
the spectre of the soylent green factories of post-brexit britain looms once more
― starring jean-claude van damme as paving mctasel (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 October 2025 15:26 (two weeks ago)
https://www.todayville.com/disabled-canadians-increasingly-under-pressure-to-opt-for-euthanasia-during-routine-doctor-visits/
obviously this couldn't happen in the UK which has much more robust social infrastructure than Canada
― Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 October 2025 20:30 (two weeks ago)
I would check out a few other headlines from that site before taking any article they publish about Canada at face value
― symsymsym, Thursday, 23 October 2025 20:50 (two weeks ago)
^good advice, Todayville is a right-wing Alberta-based website, and even worse LifeSiteNews is a far-right Catholic anti-abortion conspiracy spreader: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LifeSiteNews
― rob, Thursday, 23 October 2025 21:01 (two weeks ago)
thing is they could be accurately describing the near future of the UK there. Shitbeater sped this Assisted Dying bill through parliament and completely stripped away all the safeguards against the advice of various disabled charities and medical experts, doctors and disabled advocates etc while lying repeatedly lying through her fucking teeth when challenged on it. While in the meantime the govt is running an anti-disabled hatred campaign as a pretext of cutting or completely taking away disabled benefits from a lot of people. So it doesn't really take a wildly conspiratorial mindset to realistically imagine this going in a very fucking dark Aktion T4 kind of direction.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 October 2025 05:53 (two weeks ago)
that Darren Jones, the ultimate human manifestation of briefcase Labour who made a jibe that compared the concept disabled people receiving benefits with paying pocket money to teenagers. Well he's already earned a special place in hell for that.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 October 2025 06:03 (two weeks ago)
Aye, it's like "Are, yve been a good lad this week, have some money..."
― Mark G, Friday, 24 October 2025 06:04 (two weeks ago)
Starmer is toast.
Caerphilly, Senedd constituency by-election result:PC: 47.4% (+19.0)REF: 36.0% (+34.2)LAB: 11.0% (-34.9)CON: 2.0% (-15.3)GRN: 1.5% (+1.5)LDEM: 1.5% (-1.2)GWL: 0.3% (+0.3)UKIP: 0.2% (+0.2)Plaid Cymru GAIN from Labour.— Britain Elects (@BritainElects) October 24, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 October 2025 06:09 (two weeks ago)
heh! innit a hundred years that Labour held that seat? Nice to see Reform not winning as well.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 October 2025 06:12 (two weeks ago)
Badenoch is toast as well, 2.0%!
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 24 October 2025 06:15 (two weeks ago)
the idiocy of a party led by someone whose political hero (as well as Enoch Powell) absolutely fucking decimated the Welsh industrial base and destroyed whole communities, getting 36% of the vote. That is still quite annoying, but it's mainly Starmer's fault tbf
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 October 2025 06:22 (two weeks ago)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 October 2025 bookmarkflaglink
Yes, though Plaid and SNP are nationalist parties they may care more about their constituents than the other parties.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 October 2025 06:30 (two weeks ago)
SNP are reliably furious if you call them "Scottish Nationalists"
― sent a message through the Internet but it rejected (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 24 October 2025 07:47 (two weeks ago)
Its in the name!
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 October 2025 08:02 (two weeks ago)
these changes feel seismic. starmer might very well be the françois hollande of the labour party.
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 24 October 2025 08:12 (two weeks ago)
pic.twitter.com/nlWx7rzWC3— Llwyfenni Morgannwg Daroganwyd (@LlwyfMorgannwg) October 23, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 October 2025 08:33 (two weeks ago)
I'm guessing there was a tacit or maybe explicit Green/PC pact here. Running a candidate anyway, wondering if that's the play. I guess it has to be if they have serious ambitions
― mog AI (imago), Friday, 24 October 2025 08:51 (two weeks ago)
Lol @ made up tacit pact. The Greens don't seem to be a thing in that election.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 October 2025 09:28 (two weeks ago)
Reform were tipped to win that election so it's likely people voted Plaid Cymru to stop them. That's potentially going to wipe out Labour in Wales and Scotland and could lose them a shitload of seats in England.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 24 October 2025 09:34 (two weeks ago)
Well, yes. I'm not expecting much Green movement in Wales or Scotland
― mog AI (imago), Friday, 24 October 2025 09:35 (two weeks ago)
Next election is going to make 2019 look like a Labour triumph
Guessing Scottish Greens are more centrist now?
BREAKING: Three Scottish Greens councillors have defected to Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana's new left-wing partyIt means that Your Party now have their first political representation in Scotland pic.twitter.com/2g9ik84SRk— The National (@ScotNational) October 24, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 October 2025 09:35 (two weeks ago)
People who aren't nationalists or pro-independence in Scotland have pretty consistently been voting SNP for years, if that starts happening in Wales then it's bye bye Labour.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 24 October 2025 09:37 (two weeks ago)
... voting PC in Wales not SNP, though I'm sure SNP could do better in Wales than Labour these days.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 24 October 2025 09:38 (two weeks ago)
A friend of mine kind of grudgingly went to the Newham YP kickoff and she was positive about it - a lot of the same old boring people that she'd been hanging out with for 20 years but it was structured in a way that elevated not just the same old voices and there was a focus on supporting existing campaigns around local issues eg London Renters Union and against the far right in Whitechapel.
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 24 October 2025 09:59 (two weeks ago)
That sounds positive.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 October 2025 10:07 (two weeks ago)
I was a bit annoyed with ZS for doing the shouty postering playing to the gallery nonsense about YP being the only anti-Nato party as a critique of Polanski. If that is the case then come out and announce the completely coherent pulling out of Nato policy YP is offering and see if the Karie + Jez clique doesn't put it in the long grass and immediately gag you, lol. Nato is finished anyway and fuck Nato, but using Nato opposition as a criticism of a left-wing party you need to work with is pure bullshit.
Instead just stick to creating your own functional left-wing party and criticising the UK government and the neo-Thatcherite fascist Farage fuckwits first. Although I'm still a fan of ZS. Just politely telling her to stfu here.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 October 2025 10:20 (two weeks ago)
there isn't even a thin veneer of bullshit to defend Nato. Just a neo-colonial wing of the dying, deranged US empire. Any reasonable lefist politician isn't going to have any other take.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 October 2025 10:24 (two weeks ago)
Criticism as council set to spend £75,000 on flagshttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czdr3npe33do.amp
Flag Shagging in Reform run Nottinghamshire CC.
Anyone got the telephone number for DOGE UK? (now under the stewardship of Dicky Tice)
― djmartian, Friday, 24 October 2025 10:52 (two weeks ago)
Watched an interview with the winning PC candidate in Caerphilly where, in the course of a couple of minutes, he referred to himself in the third person three times. Weird.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 24 October 2025 11:10 (two weeks ago)
Politicians are just all total fucking dickheads really.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 October 2025 11:22 (two weeks ago)
A mate of mine was telling me last night he got canvassed in Hackney by Labour and basically just noped the councillor, and when he was leaving his flat later on they'd left a leaflet on the doormat nonetheless. Something amusing about that, just so pathetic.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 24 October 2025 11:24 (two weeks ago)
scottish greens are explicitly socialist
― ufo, Friday, 24 October 2025 11:59 (two weeks ago)
I wonder if they've given their reasons...
― mog AI (imago), Friday, 24 October 2025 12:15 (two weeks ago)
xp funny way of showing it
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 October 2025 12:24 (two weeks ago)
Apols if this has been posted already, but love Zack's pugilistic attitude
Find this kind of bollocks nauseating?If you understand the basic principle that our environment is being destroyed by the super rich corporate polluters?Then https://t.co/Q27Jy5eX7z https://t.co/DeLw0yuZWJ— Zack Polanski (@ZackPolanski) October 23, 2025
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 24 October 2025 13:14 (two weeks ago)
Yeah we should all have learned what a recipe for disappointment banking on personalities is by now but I do think he's good at his job so far
― Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 October 2025 13:35 (two weeks ago)
Just a reminder that serial failure, Danny Finkelstein, is now in the House of Lords, where he is unfortunately called Baron Finkelstein.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Friday, 24 October 2025 13:53 (two weeks ago)
That rancid right wing weekly rag, The Spectator (now edited by Michael Gove) have Your Party on the front cover, warning their readers about a "British islamo-socialist alliance" written by 2 right-wing hacks Angus Colwell and Max Jeffery (whoever they are?)
Pathetic. If the billionaire-owned, Nazi-defending Spectator are attacking you, you know you must be doing something right.Join: https://t.co/M1n8ZyFcGz pic.twitter.com/GSCMyeUSoj— Your Party (@thisisyourparty) October 24, 2025
― djmartian, Friday, 24 October 2025 14:09 (two weeks ago)
that's very true, but Zack's balls are so big I feel like volunteering to be a ballbag carrier for him! Honestly though there is wisdom in forsaking all this celebrity pol bullshit forever, because it's not helpful in the long term and 101.1% of the time you will be disappointed in the end and realise you have been played. But at this foolish moment in time I really fucking love this guy!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 October 2025 15:30 (two weeks ago)
Lol awesome. Did once think -- when I genuinely made use of it -- that I got it too easy.
🇨🇳 Li Liu (left pic) and 🇨🇳 Wanqing Yu (right pic), two Chinese students living in Leeds, have been locked up after exploiting a massive loophole in Britain’s rail compensation system. Liu and Yu raked in a whopping £156,743 — Liu stole £141,031, Yu £15,712 — by scamming the… pic.twitter.com/1Y38wGJELb— Byron Wan (@Byron_Wan) October 23, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 October 2025 16:40 (two weeks ago)
now tell us how much the rail companies steal from their customers every day
― Maybe Stimming Will Help (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 October 2025 16:40 (two weeks ago)
seems like a lot of work over three years. you have to think the thrill was doing it and getting away with it (until they didn’t). kind of envious of their brio
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 24 October 2025 16:44 (two weeks ago)
was listening to some chat last night about how Corbyn wanted to make a brexit deal with May that would protect the economy rather than the shitshow that entailed, and May was in agreement. It was his shadow brexit minister (member of both Labour Together and The Trilateral Commission) who refused every offer unless it had a 2nd ref. Gavin Barwell revealed that Starmer had approached him with an offer, then later Barwell secretly approached to him to agree with the offer. Starmer then did a complete 360 and said he'd never accept such an offer. This is when Barwell realised Starmer was just operating as a wrecker and not negotiating in good faith. So now we have a Labour chancellor saying that the hard brexit that the current PM ultimately caused for factional reasons is tanking the economy.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 October 2025 07:14 (two weeks ago)
starmer country first party second
starmer country of strangers
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 October 2025 07:58 (two weeks ago)
Is Delay Repay actually paid by the train companies or the govt?
― fetter, Saturday, 25 October 2025 08:08 (two weeks ago)
not sure but Delay Repay sounds like a name to me, be a good name for a UK Railway Minister.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 October 2025 08:22 (two weeks ago)
it is paid by the train operator
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 October 2025 08:27 (two weeks ago)
it's a great name
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 October 2025 08:34 (two weeks ago)
I've used it many a time. Avanti West Coast pay you automatically, you don't even have to claim.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 October 2025 08:45 (two weeks ago)
Lucy Powell elected Deputy Leader of the Labour PartyL Powell: 54%B Phillipson: 46%
L Powell: 54%B Phillipson: 46%
just effectively a fuck you to Starmer & McSweeney
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 October 2025 09:15 (two weeks ago)
16% turnout lol
― sent a message through the Internet but it rejected (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 25 October 2025 09:23 (two weeks ago)
apparently 160000 voted so I think the turnout includes affiliated union membership as well as party membership. Because they certainly don't have a million members!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 October 2025 09:27 (two weeks ago)
it would be funny if it came out there was some electoral fraud stitch-up attempted by McSweeney and still they lost
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 October 2025 09:28 (two weeks ago)
At least a Labour politician has won one election this year.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 October 2025 09:31 (two weeks ago)
i'm guessing at this stage he doesn't give much of a shit, both because Starmer's toast and because the Deputy Leader is a big straw dummy
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 October 2025 09:32 (two weeks ago)
Phillipson said if elected she would push the govt to end the 2-child cap. Sorry kids, because of that bad Labour membership you will carry on living in poverty now.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 October 2025 09:45 (two weeks ago)
Real impressive to have your membership already at the "whatever, don't give a fuck any more" stage a year and a half after a landslide election victory.
― sent a message through the Internet but it rejected (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 25 October 2025 09:49 (two weeks ago)
it is wild to me that starmer thought he could break every promise he ever made, continue austerity, and just… coast?
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 25 October 2025 10:17 (two weeks ago)
i don't think it's any one individual's decision, it's a machine incapable of operating in a different way.
i saw some backbencher quoted yesterday describing the conference speech as starmer briefly managing to escape from his captors, and while i don't agree the speech was some ray of light, this is how i imagine it to be. that doesn't exonerate him but it does appear the levels of control, fear and reactiveness create a ruling group that is in fact completely divorced from reality. like they're in the bunker, constantly, trying to react to whatever story or poll. we saw this with the tories as well i guess, trying to second guess some imagined version of the electorate to the extent that every week there are announcements so off topic and weird it's like the country is a house that's on fire and they're sitting in the flames for an hour before someone says 'we should get new curtains!'
― LocalGarda, Saturday, 25 October 2025 10:23 (two weeks ago)
was listening to some chat last night about how Corbyn wanted to make a brexit deal with May that would protect the economy rather than the shitshow that entailed, and May was in agreement
Where was this? I always thought it was weird Corbyn and May didn't collaborate as it seemed in both their interests, but it looks like maybe there were attempts behind the scenes?
― anvil, Saturday, 25 October 2025 10:28 (two weeks ago)
It's a question of priorities for these people as well. I'm sure they'd like to win elections or be popular but not if it means deviating from their ideology, or pissing off their financial backers, or offering any comfort whatsoever to their hated enemies on the Left - with a very broad definition for them of what constitutes the Left.
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 October 2025 10:30 (two weeks ago)
it was from one of the terrible podcasts that YT throws at me that I'd be too embarrassed to share on here. But it might have been quoting from the 2022 Eagleton book on Starmer that suggested that 2ndRef was a straight wrecking campaign, which at the time I thought was a bit too conspiratorial and he wasn't dynamic enough to be a good conspirator. Now I just know that Starmer was doing a premeditated wrecking campaign as a Labour Together stooge with 101% certainty.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 October 2025 10:48 (two weeks ago)
I mean, subsequent events have shown the depth of his commitment to EU membership
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 October 2025 10:52 (two weeks ago)
about as strong as his commitment to human rights
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 October 2025 10:59 (two weeks ago)
I'm sure they'd like to win elections or be popular but not if it means deviating from their ideology, or pissing off their financial backers, or offering any comfort whatsoever to their hated enemies on the Left
yeah, agree. the impression i get of politics lately, and not just in this country, is that whatever is left of the so-called centre parties (maybe establishment parties is a better term), they create a prison for themselves when in power. the amount of things they won't ever do or will claim they can't do leaves an absolutely tiny set of actions which are divorced from any real meaning. they are just in complete stasis, and so the things they end up 'doing' end up veering towards nastier policies that affect minorities, or similar, with accompanying rhetoric.
the lane seems wide open for a party that believes the government has power and can use it to do things, instead of just concentrating on keeping power where it currently lies.
also seems like why we end up with this weird situation in the uk where the party in power keeps blaming the previous party, and the diff between opposition party and the government becomes negligible, not just because they have the same policies, but because they refuse to entirely take responsibility/take power even after winning an election.
― LocalGarda, Saturday, 25 October 2025 11:34 (two weeks ago)
That's my understanding. After 2017 they were both talking about an agreement but ultra Brexiteers were mad May was talking to 'communist' Corbyn so they shafted her for Johnson.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 October 2025 12:04 (two weeks ago)
The "FBPE cunts facilitated the hardest Brexit" routine does seem largely accurate afaict
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 October 2025 12:17 (two weeks ago)
Never forget Government of Melty Girl Bosses rhetoric
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 October 2025 12:18 (two weeks ago)
which were the worst wreckers, the FBPEs or the ultra Brexiteers? Tough call. Collectively they fucked over this country with a little bit of help from Kieth.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 October 2025 12:22 (two weeks ago)
incredible to remember that prior to being elected leader Kieth’s big job was to be architect of Labour’s Brexit policy LMAO
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 25 October 2025 12:27 (two weeks ago)
Gavin Barwell revealed that Starmer had approached him with an offer, then later Barwell secretly approached to him to agree with the offer. Starmer then did a complete 360 and said he'd never accept such an offer. This is when Barwell realised Starmer was just operating as a wrecker and not negotiating in good faith.
lol, quoting myself from upthread here because obv I'm a top poster!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 October 2025 12:33 (two weeks ago)
going well
https://bsky.app/profile/yourparty.scot/post/3m3zezfp7222g
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 25 October 2025 12:52 (two weeks ago)
161,000 votes cast in the Labour Deputy Leadership Election.It was 461,000 votes cast in the same contest in 2020. A 300,000 collapse in the number of people voting in the Labour Deputy Leadership Election.— Tory Fibs (@ToryFibs) October 25, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 October 2025 13:00 (two weeks ago)
this is only one random guy's account, so maybe take it with a pinch of salt, but if true it's insane what a farce this whole thing is, like God decided to make a party political broadcast for Reform
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/25/sex-offender-freed-by-mistake-search-london
A delivery driver has described seeing Kebatu return to HMP Chelmsford in a “very confused” state “four or five times”, only to be turned away by prison staff and directed to the railway station.The driver, named only as Sim, told Sky News that he saw Kebatu come out of the prison saying “Where am I going? What am I doing?” and hanging around for about one-and-a-half hours as he tried to find out where he should be going.He said that Kebatu knew that he should be deported but the prison staff were “basically sending him away” and saying to him: “Go, you’ve been released, you go.”The driver said: “He kept scratching his head and saying: ‘Where do I go, where do I go?’ The fourth or fifth time [he went into the reception] he was starting to get upset, he was getting stressed. I’m not sticking up for the guy, but in my eyes, he was trying to do the right thing.“He knew he was getting deported, but he didn’t know where he was going or how he should get there.”Kebatu appears to have been spotted later in Chelmsford town centre asking for assistance before getting on to a train to London.
The driver, named only as Sim, told Sky News that he saw Kebatu come out of the prison saying “Where am I going? What am I doing?” and hanging around for about one-and-a-half hours as he tried to find out where he should be going.
He said that Kebatu knew that he should be deported but the prison staff were “basically sending him away” and saying to him: “Go, you’ve been released, you go.”
The driver said: “He kept scratching his head and saying: ‘Where do I go, where do I go?’ The fourth or fifth time [he went into the reception] he was starting to get upset, he was getting stressed. I’m not sticking up for the guy, but in my eyes, he was trying to do the right thing.
“He knew he was getting deported, but he didn’t know where he was going or how he should get there.”
Kebatu appears to have been spotted later in Chelmsford town centre asking for assistance before getting on to a train to London.
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Saturday, 25 October 2025 16:28 (two weeks ago)
I keep thinking of the Brass Eye Paedogeddon bit about Sidney Cooke.
Last month the notorious paedophile Sidney Cooke was blasted into space to spend the rest of his life aboard a one-man prison vessel, posing no further threat to children on Earth. But it was revealed that an eight-year-old boy was also placed on board by mistake, and is now trapped alone in space with the monster. A spokesman said: ‘This is the one thing we didn’t want to happen'
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 October 2025 16:36 (two weeks ago)
haha, the minute I read the story I sent a gif of that scene to a friend
it's irritating how it'll be spun in some mad racist hatred way rather than as an example of crap public services.
― LocalGarda, Saturday, 25 October 2025 16:38 (two weeks ago)
I'd be inclined to think this was a right-wing op if it wasn't so typical of how broken everything is in this country.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 25 October 2025 17:16 (two weeks ago)
Austerity is to blame.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 October 2025 17:46 (two weeks ago)
it was bad enough when Keunnsberg used to give Boris Johnson his softball questions in advance and give him a BJ instead of an interview. She reached new levels of obsequiousness against Kamala Harris. Like who in the UK gives a fuck about this bag of wind. Keunnsy was like addressing her reverently as "madame vice president". And then says your book(provisional title: I suck so much shit so badly that the American electorate preferred to vote for a fascist paedo) is such a marvel I have read it 3 times. loollol stop it!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 27 October 2025 08:23 (one week ago)
God I haven't thought about her in a while. I thought she went away. Ah well
― mog AI (imago), Monday, 27 October 2025 08:38 (one week ago)
As a GP, I am not allowed to receive a pen or post-it note pad from a pharmaceutical company repGovt banned them in case I was influenced to prescribe medicationsThis should also be bannedInfluence being bought in GovtPatients should influence not the healthy & wealthy pic.twitter.com/MW4tvVlCX2— Dr Steve Taylor (@DrSteveTaylor) October 26, 2025
I used to think Lammy was probably the greediest and most ethically compromised corrupt cunt in the Starmer government, but maybe Wes is pushing hard for that top spot now.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 27 October 2025 14:01 (one week ago)
Without a specific instance this account of music's role in Starmer's grieving process is odd, empty. Maybe there's more beyond that clip.
How music helped the Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer in his grief, after losing his brother last year.Sir Keir joins Michael Berkeley on Private Passions at 12pm this Sunday to talk about music, family and the pressures of politics, sharing some of his favourite classical… pic.twitter.com/qu0tmeIv62— BBC Radio 3 (@BBCRadio3) October 26, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 October 2025 15:21 (one week ago)
I very much doubt every word he says, this doesn't pass the bullshit test with me. He's such a trivial, insincere lying cunt I wouldn't put it past him to use his dead brother as some bullshit PR to try and make him seem more like a human being in some way. Just because his personal polling is plumbing deeper than the challenger deep this week.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 27 October 2025 15:29 (one week ago)
this is some desperate shit, from a PM who is so widely hated that he can't even announce policies anymore, he's like nuclear waste - anything that get's too close to him is completely toxic and fried with the electorate.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 27 October 2025 15:43 (one week ago)
it's sad the way his brother went, but it must be said Kieth had zero empathy for the thousands (or potentially hundreds of thousands) of other people like his brother who would have perished not from cancer but from the PIP cuts his govt was attempting. So basically he can go fuck himself with a rusty dildo. And take his insincere self-piteous drivel to hell with himself.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 27 October 2025 16:39 (one week ago)
from April 6th next year Kieth's two-tier Universal Credit reforms will be brought in that will mean new disabled applicants to LCWRA will get half the amount of existing recipients. An absolutely fucking disgraceful and discriminatory deep austerity cut that will put the most vulnerable and the most in need of help into poverty. But yeah let's feel sorry for this putrid little jelly-faced man whose approval rating is in a fucking coal seam somewhere.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 05:04 (one week ago)
Hayat Tahrir Al Sham (who allegedly do summary street executions), and according to the UK government, who delisted them from the terror list last week, are not as dangerous as Palestine Action. Apparently they have murdered up to 11000 civilians in the last few months.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 05:34 (one week ago)
well done to Zarah Sultana for making Paul Mason lose his shit. She only said the truth, that Zelensky is no friend of the working class in Ukraine and pumping money into evil weapons of death manufacturers to feed an eternal meat grinder is not a good thing. I said to my brother that Zelensky is a bent Tory and was named on the panama papers etc.. and his Norwegian wife angrily accused me of being a Putin shill, lol
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 08:08 (one week ago)
Do you fancy working with @StephLunch and me as the producer of our Rest is Money podcast? Our brilliant colleague Ross is leaving so now’s your chance. Click below for detailshttps://t.co/x6QLGilwtE— Robert Peston (@Peston) October 28, 2025
― Mark G, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 13:49 (one week ago)
The Rest Is...empire of podcasts truly an evil institution.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 14:45 (one week ago)
We're on strike again. We had John McDonnell down at the picket today, promising to ask questions in Parliament; Paul Novak, Gen Sec of the TUC for those who haven't a scooby who he is; and the guy that halved Starmer's vote in the last general election.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 14:49 (one week ago)
... Andrew Feinstein.
the lot of them are wretched, but obviously the most wretched is the politics one, just eternal zombie Blairism.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 14:55 (one week ago)
People were so down on podcasts on ILX during the era where it was just enthusiasts recording stuff at home, now the medium's been fully taken over by the UK media class and things are so much worse.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 14:58 (one week ago)
I don't know, even though I can't stand Dominic Sandbrook in particular, TRO History's Mary Queen of Scots podcasts were enjoyable. Also the ones about Charlemagne.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 15:01 (one week ago)
and of course the best podcast, Centuries of Sound
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 15:36 (one week ago)
And Football Clichés is part of that group also.
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 15:38 (one week ago)
Still got love for Fall of Civilizations despite its flaws
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 16:50 (one week ago)
and of course the best podcast, Centuries of Sound― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 15:36 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 15:36 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Lol thank you TH. Don't forget Andrew Hickey though!
― sent a message through the Internet but it rejected (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 17:14 (one week ago)
Sultana’s interview was bizarre. If the platform of YP is going to be determined by the members, idk how she can come up with a bunch of positions on the fly that aren’t part of any founding documents and haven’t been voted on democratically. If there are acknowledged red lines, but nobody has spoken about them until now, what are the other ones? If this is the best she can come up with to differentiate from the ‘proscribe the IDF / abolish landlords’ platform is ‘the Greens are insufficiently anti-Israel and not class-focused enough’, I can’t see them hurting their polling much.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 06:35 (one week ago)
I like her, but her snipes against the Greens lack substance and come across as needless posturing from a very weak position. YP needs to sort it's own house out first and it has some serious fucking issues and it is a party in the foetal stage. Polanski is not doing policies on the fly, or taking cheap shots against YP (unless I've missed them) despite inspiring an unprecedented membership/polling surge.
Michael Owen and Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber join protest against betting tax rise
I want to start a fundraiser to have this duo incinerated with a flamethrower or thrown from a helicopter into the open sea.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 06:43 (one week ago)
Coupled with it seems they've lost all the data from the time she opened up the membership platform.
Separately, I'm laughing here at Michael Owen and Andrew Lloyd Webber grouped together. Surely a song is the way to raise support for this crucial issue? Phantom Of The Acca maybe.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 06:48 (one week ago)
lool!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 06:50 (one week ago)
Maybe Michael can do a 32 page brochure on all the great achievements of the betting industry
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 06:56 (one week ago)
If this is the best she can come up with to differentiate from the ‘proscribe the IDF / abolish landlords’ platform is ‘the Greens are insufficiently anti-Israel and not class-focused enough’, I can’t see them hurting their polling much.
Even in the unlikely event they get act together, it feels like the Greens have all the momentum now. Somehow turned into a regen of Galloways Workers Party
― anvil, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 07:02 (one week ago)
In an email sent to supporters on Monday, Your Party said: “We’ve come up against an issue that has proved frustratingly difficult to solve.
“Many of you joined Your Party via the membership portal promoted by Zarah on Sept 18. If that applies to you, you are a member of Your Party.
“But because your membership data is held by the company that took your payment, MOU Operations Ltd, we have had no way to access it or integrate you into our membership portal.”
Mou operations? If I speak...
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 07:05 (one week ago)
xpHmm.. I think that Galloway comparison is way off the money. If that was in any way accurate there certainly wouldn't be the sizable cohort of trans members who have joined the Greens.
I'm just remembering Lloyd Webber cancelling all meetings and engagements to rush onto a plane from NYC to get to the House of Lords for a key vote on the 2015 Welfare Bill. The guy still loves to participate in UK politics as a mega-wealthy expat peer (very occasionally), and he loves a bet ...Top Bloke
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 07:06 (one week ago)
I think its because its becoming clearer that it is becoming a regen of the workers party is one of many factors in why people are leaving it for the Greens. It wasn't necessarily clear initially what it is
― anvil, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 07:08 (one week ago)
oh you meant YP oh right I thought you meant the Greens
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 07:10 (one week ago)
Adnan Hussein is an uneducable moron and a bigot, so yeah he would slot into the Workers Party no prob
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 07:11 (one week ago)
Oh, no, Greens and WP aren't even in the same universe!
I don't see YP as being a competitor or threat to the Greens at all now, their direct competition is Galloway
― anvil, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 07:13 (one week ago)
the other day Hussein was posting on twitter some dangerously dumb false equivalence nonsense about neo-fascist demonstrations and the counter demonstrators. It's almost like before the Gaza genocide he had never really put his head above the parapet before. And he has been elevated to a senior position in the admittedly embryonic YP. This a problem and Corbyn doing a power grab and then not being strident and aware enough to deal with this problem, tells me YP is doomed in the short term.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 07:20 (one week ago)
Corbyn and his crew are acting like they are still operating within the Labour Party. Where you have to work with dickheads. Someone needs to send the memo that the best thing about starting a new party is that you can be ideological first.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 07:24 (one week ago)
What I will say is I don't think Sultana was taking cheap shots at the Greens - she was asked to explain what distinguishes her party from the Greens, if she just said "nothing, they're lovely" the obvious follow up would have been "so what are you even doing here". Agreed the actual distinctions she claims are not very convincing though.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 07:50 (one week ago)
eventually, I think she might be tempted to break Green. Karie Murphy and Corbz will drive her to it somehow. She comes across like someone permanently biting her tongue.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 07:57 (one week ago)
I'd be surprised. She seems deep in the squabbling trenches even for a young person. I would imagine a career of rancour and castigating enemies from an increasingly long past, but I could be wrong.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 07:58 (one week ago)
I don’t think she’s going to want to be a member of any party unless she has a very significant role in leading it and I am not sure she would be enough of an asset to the Greens (rather than a liability) to make that worthwhile for them. It’s a member-led party, though, so who knows?
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 08:04 (one week ago)
well true. In the Greens there is a level of membership accountability that would be a shock to the system of any ex Labour MP. The fucking. raging egos of some of these ppl!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 08:07 (one week ago)
Might have been an asset a year or two ago, but surely a liability at this point.
she was asked to explain what distinguishes her party from the Greens, if she just said "nothing, they're lovely" the obvious follow up would have been "so what are you even doing here". Agreed the actual distinctions she claims are not very convincing though.
This is the problem though. There was an empty lane for a Green type party that the Greens finally got out of bed and took, and there is a lane for a Galloway type party. I don't know that there's a third lane and the Green type lane is long gone now
― anvil, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 08:30 (one week ago)
Yep, I think you can take shots at Polanski - ‘we have seen other leaders, including Starmer, pivot from the centre to the left, when convenient, and back to the centre or centre right when they have some power, so it’s important to have a member-led party rooted in the working class’, etc, etc, would be a fair line of attack but it’s obviously a lot harder to do with the Greens as a genuine mass-movements party and impossible when you have no formal policy agenda yourself. You’re pretty much left with ‘our members are more left-wing than their members’ or making up rubbish.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 08:53 (one week ago)
After the farcical false launch it's likely that most of the people still wanting to belong to YP are more closely aligned to WP values and that perception is not gonna make things better for them.
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 09:03 (one week ago)
As for the broader "all in, I need a party that's a panacea" thing, well, what can you do? we're all to blame
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 09:05 (one week ago)
Thats a problem for them in a different direction, what is that distinguishes them from WP? A longer mailing list that its unclear they even have access to?
― anvil, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 09:16 (one week ago)
"so it’s important to have a member-led party rooted in the working class’, etc, etc......but it’s obviously a lot harder to do with the Greens as a genuine mass-movements party"
I would wager a lot of the new eco-socialist bloc (or whatev you wany to call it) of the Green Membership, which is more than half of their membership now are not middle income earners. I'd imagine a very good share of them will be working class.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 09:34 (one week ago)
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 bookmarkflaglink
I only saw the clip from that politics podcast. And it was just a question of potential points of disagreement, and it seemed a fine answer. Obviously as a prominent member in YP she wants to drive where the party ought to go.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 09:51 (one week ago)
― anvil, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 bookmarkflaglink
If YP get their act toegther to field candidates in local elections they will need to do a pact with the Greens as a split of votes could mean a reprieve for Labour in a lot of seats. That's what is at stake in the short-term. If things go bad here YP could drag the Greens down, as they need a v strong showing to keep their momentum going for the next three years.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 09:59 (one week ago)
As climate change accelerates and affects growth, inflation, consumer spend and capitalism there will be many varieties of green policy available to the voter.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 10:17 (one week ago)
Maybe, though I think YP and Greens aren't likely to be competing for the same voters now. In the future, as you say, there will be more variants to choose from, possibly including a eco/Reform variant
― anvil, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 10:34 (one week ago)
YP and Greens are competing for me rn (and to me where I am it does feel like this is going to keep ppl like Reed in their seats more easily)
― nashwan, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 10:50 (one week ago)
I think whatever happens people like Reed will be toast in the next GE
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 10:55 (one week ago)
The Greens have surpassed Labour (or are well on their way) in London polling iirc
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 10:57 (one week ago)
To see Greens do to this Labour in these seats what the LDs carved out in the south west suburbs over the years would be cool but obv by no means a like for like.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 11:00 (one week ago)
Hopefully Greens can take many councils away from Lab though what can they do to fight against austerity when Lab is in Government is a question I'd like to see an answer to.
In terms of whether a future government could back out of NATO or suspend all relations with Israel without major pushback from other European powers is also another thing. Its easy to say this stuff and campaign for it to happen...
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 11:08 (one week ago)
From my initial excitement over YP to it becoming a clusterfuck of raging entitled egos and three lawsuits. It seems like a long time now, but this was like a month and a half ago. It already feels more depressingly exhausting than 2015-19 did. because at least back then you expected wreckers and were aware the project was operating within a hive of corrupt dishonourable knaves with a majority faction of evil bastards.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 11:09 (one week ago)
I think thats understandable, I don't think at the outset anyone thought this was the path they were going to go down.
In some ways, the wreckers may have done them a favour, the same way an injured or sidelined player turns into prime KDB when they're not actually on the pitch
― anvil, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 11:30 (one week ago)
This must be what a Your Party leadership meeting seems like to the folk that signed up pic.twitter.com/jVN1GI1eMi— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) October 29, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 12:29 (one week ago)
https://thoughtcatalog.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/6804a6_2a566775e2464e6884a9bcab4c3060f8_mv2.gif?w=500
― anvil, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 12:58 (one week ago)
It’s not just infighting, they’ve really messed up afaict.
MoU won’t give YP the £800k because they have no other money with which to pay any ICO fines, YP can’t take over MoU in case any ICO fines, or other liabilities, exceed the £800k they’re holding on to.
This will be why YP doesn’t know who signed up the first time around and who didn’t.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 13:31 (one week ago)
that level of uncertainty means they aren't going get the members. Who wants to pay into a party where your money could be getting sucked into a vortex of legal fees at worst and who knows what is going on. That already happened when a lot of these people were Labour Party members and it was a bitter experience for them. They couldn't have fucked this worse if they were trying to.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 13:37 (one week ago)
Here is a Green supporter ("ecosocialist" in the bio) getting pissy at ZS's points on Green councils.
Ending this hell of austerity is what matters, not beating Lab to then just manage cuts.
I truly look forward to the first YourParty council that will presumably just find sacks of cash lying around the place to fund government services, according to Zarah Sultana's many years of experience in local government finance.You know, because that's how it works. pic.twitter.com/QKZyjXdX4S— Alexander Louis Sallons (@sallonsax) October 27, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 16:37 (one week ago)
he's a total fucking arsehole. If there is one thing that makes people despise councils it is the gutless lack of resistance to austerity cuts. Whistling on their way to meetings to briefly put on a sad face and cut some essential services for vulnerable people.. etc..
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 16:49 (one week ago)
Liverpool city council in the 80's, the Preston Model - there are other ways that don't involve looking for bags of magic money. What a fucking snide melt
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 16:54 (one week ago)
just remembering that Starmer absolutely despised the Preston Model, the obvious joke is probably because they weren't Ukrainian. But it's a shame the Preston Model wasn't replicated across Labour councils. It doesn't end austerity but it is at least ... something.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 17:01 (one week ago)
Local authorities are set up to fail and I think that in a way winning control of them can be a poisoned chalice for national parties, but fuck off being a soi-disant socialist of any stripe and then repeating Magic Money Tree shite
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 17:02 (one week ago)
Yeah we need some resistance at local level. This is where I am suspicious of the Greens but its not like there's an alternative rn xps
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 17:04 (one week ago)
The MOU must transfer the money to https://t.co/MZZWdO2YKZ immediately from the 800 thousand people who want to build an honest and fair party. https://t.co/OAIc5CHzDK— Laura Alvarez (@LauraAlvarezJC) October 29, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 22:02 (one week ago)
Driscoll, Feinstein and Winter have resigned from MoU and claim that they had nothing to do with the failed portal launch, which obviously raises the question of who did.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 30 October 2025 07:22 (one week ago)
perhaps it might be a good idea to just ban all ex Labour MPs, Corbyn staffers and most importantly Corbyn (and his wife) and Sultana from all leadership or upper tier positions in a new party. Not even being facetious here, none of them have shown themselves to be up to the task. Too much ego and sense of entitlement, just basically what most people hate about typical Labour MPs has infected them as well.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 30 October 2025 07:46 (one week ago)
I remember getting very angry at some stupid comedian for clowning how the cult of Jeremy Corbyn operates on some dreadful panel show. She'd had some interaction with one of his handsome 6"4 clone sons and realised Corbz was a Jesus figure (with no surname) to their circle of acolytes and hangers on or something like that. It turned out she was Allister Campbell's daughter and was a nauseating melt ftr, but she might have even had a point.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 30 October 2025 07:53 (one week ago)
I think pretty much the only thing YP has going for it at the moment is name recognition for Corbyn and Sultana but yes, clear that neither of them, or anyone else in positions of leadership (including Driscoll, Feinstein, Winter, Murphy and all the MPs) are up to it.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 30 October 2025 08:18 (one week ago)
Good to remember that Polanski had zero name recognition other than as a Green leadership candidate with an above average media presence until recently.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 30 October 2025 08:24 (one week ago)
it was pan breid as soon as ZS unilaterally launched that portal
― ||||||||, Thursday, 30 October 2025 08:25 (one week ago)
At the time I felt like the 'Cult of Corbyn' was sort of ironic. And most of the criticisms were so absurd and theatrical, that in dismissing them the real criticisms got swept away as well.
― anvil, Thursday, 30 October 2025 08:26 (one week ago)
Have to wonder if name recognition is even a positive in general
― anvil, Thursday, 30 October 2025 08:27 (one week ago)
The Greens are gonna have to become more than Cuddly Zack's Bracingly Straight-Talking Counterblast To The Zeitgeist
― mog AI (imago), Thursday, 30 October 2025 08:51 (one week ago)
but all in good time!
Corbyn came down to our picket yesterday morning but I missed him. Feinstein was there the day before. Meanwhile more landlord hijinks from the Labour Party:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rachel-reeves-housing-rental-starmer-labour-b2854883.html
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 October 2025 10:26 (one week ago)
Just found out Polanksi's coming to the picket on bonfire night!
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 October 2025 10:36 (one week ago)
Vegan hot dogs only please
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 October 2025 10:42 (one week ago)
Gotta collect 'em all
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 30 October 2025 10:43 (one week ago)
Gotta love that Reeves tweet xps
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 October 2025 10:44 (one week ago)
what a piece of work, actually no, I mean shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 30 October 2025 10:46 (one week ago)
A sponsored ad from Google: “The point is all these productivity benefits are not abstract, you can already see it!”Rory and Alastair, from @restispolitics discuss Google AI, and how AI is empowering the Government to become more efficient"
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 30 October 2025 11:01 (one week ago)
more like: the rest is slightly less dystopian
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 30 October 2025 11:23 (one week ago)
hey, no worries here. Google AI have had a consultation with some of the unions. It's all good.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 30 October 2025 11:24 (one week ago)
at this point the little Tory cunt who partners with Campbell on the pod will pull off his mask and reveal that all along he was Tony Blair.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 30 October 2025 11:27 (one week ago)
Peston was doing sponcon for Google AI recently too, which is probably less than ideal if you’re supposedly holding the government to account in your day job.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 30 October 2025 11:53 (one week ago)
'it saves time, and money'
but of course no mention of what tasks it's being used for. heaven forbid we consider the specific use value of a piece of tech even at a level as macro as rory stewart podcast
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 30 October 2025 12:06 (one week ago)
We had mandatory training yesterday and it proudly announced the videos were AI generated and I was so triggered I had to go out for a vape for 10 minutes
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 October 2025 12:31 (one week ago)
the money saved could be used to pay for a national assisted dying scheme ... no scratch that, just seen how much AI could make savings there as well. Fuck that, you fleas can pay for your own extermination!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 30 October 2025 12:35 (one week ago)
could AI do an unbiased, evidence-based investigation into Rachel Reeves housing rules infraction, because lol, it seems like Rayner got sacked for something very similar.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 30 October 2025 13:03 (one week ago)
"Join Jeremy in Pekcham this weekend!" is the heading of the email I just got. Pekcham, Britian!
― nashwan, Thursday, 30 October 2025 15:19 (one week ago)
he just wants to be Peckchums
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 30 October 2025 15:33 (one week ago)
What a dikchead.
― Webinar in Wetherspoons (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 October 2025 16:16 (one week ago)
I was listening to a podcast earlier that gleefully mentioned that the Tony Blair Institute is restructuring/laying off staff because it's not really happening for them at the moment. God knows what they did with all that Larry Ellison dosh, but that was 2023, so maybe just pissed it away by now. I asked Google if TBI is not doing so well financially and the Google AI was like: these motherfuckers are printing money. So I checked the FT and a week ago they ran a story, oh yes: staff layoffs, looking for a more sustainable model(looololol) Blair e-mailing staff that the TBI was going on a “new stage of its journey”.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 30 October 2025 18:43 (one week ago)
Genuinely amazed you can spend £166m doing PowerPoints for autocrats (against an income of £161m).
― ShariVari, Thursday, 30 October 2025 19:29 (one week ago)
They must have all the plug ins
― colonic interrogation (gyac), Thursday, 30 October 2025 19:35 (one week ago)
some pretty fancy projectors!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 30 October 2025 19:40 (one week ago)
PRINCE Andrew is more popular than the current UK Government, recent polling has suggested.
"Get those Labour Party shares off the books, lads, before they tank any further. Hold fire with those Prince Andrew shares.."
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 31 October 2025 06:44 (one week ago)
I dreamed that the Labour Party was stripped of its title, and is now called "Party"
― Mark G, Friday, 31 October 2025 08:48 (one week ago)
Would be a good name, but could it be changed so I know the party belongs to me and my friends?
― LocalGarda, Friday, 31 October 2025 08:55 (one week ago)
just don't say a word, if Corbyn hears there is a PARTY you he will rush in and centralise all power within the party between him and his mates and then sue you!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 31 October 2025 08:57 (one week ago)
that's Corbyn as a new Fast Show character
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 31 October 2025 09:08 (one week ago)
The party's over.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 31 October 2025 09:43 (one week ago)
bring your own injunction
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 31 October 2025 09:53 (one week ago)
the Letting Agent who has apologised to Reeves needs to stop letting them do this to them. Like as there is zero onus on a landlord to take some responsibility for their own legal obligations.Through yourself in the nearest skip Reeves. Tbf Elland Rd looks like a giant one.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 31 October 2025 10:46 (one week ago)
throw fucking autocorrect
It’s definitely typical of letting agencies to promise the earth and then do nothing, it’s just that nobody GAF when tenants bear the brunt of that incompetence.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 31 October 2025 10:54 (one week ago)
I find letting agents to be innocent, benign, beautiful people when it is Reeves who is getting sprayed with shit because they have been less than perfect. Still, Reeves is far from blameless here imo. The amount of temp landlording she would have done over a decade of a parliamentary career and she still thinks it would have been ok not to pay the £900 fee. Nah fuck blaming the letting agent.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 31 October 2025 11:06 (one week ago)
It sounds like she was given special treatment by the agent, which then backfired when the person who offered it left.
― ShariVari, Friday, 31 October 2025 11:20 (one week ago)
one bit of unsubstantiated Leeds gossip I got was that the staff at a posh restaurant there (posh by Leeds standards lol!) all hate her guts and say she acts like royalty and she asked for the service charge to be taken off the bill, which for someone on her salary is a pretty mean + fucked up thing to do.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 31 October 2025 11:29 (one week ago)
The smoking gun tweet from 2 weeks prior to her owning up has been conveniently ignored
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Friday, 31 October 2025 11:30 (one week ago)
could you link that tweet pls?
there is a long history now of her not knowing things, like just basic rights and wrongs when it comes out she been less than honest or broken some law, or plagiarised someone or committed expenses fraud etc ad infinitum
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 31 October 2025 11:36 (one week ago)
tbh, the biggest inconsistency is probably between her initial position of ‘I didn’t know a license was needed’ and the current position of ‘someone told me they were applying for the license but didn’t’. Hard to see how both could be true.
― ShariVari, Friday, 31 October 2025 12:00 (one week ago)
I'll have a look in a bit calz, she tweeted a response to Acorn i think, celebrating the introduction of the licensing requirements in Leeds
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Friday, 31 October 2025 12:31 (one week ago)
Which explains the new excuse she's adopted i guess
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Friday, 31 October 2025 12:32 (one week ago)
ah I saw that, just hadn't heard her highly uncredible denial. Even Peston has jumped on this last night.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 31 October 2025 12:37 (one week ago)
Obvs from someone who thinks that shrinking the size of the state is generally a good thing but useful outline here of what it’s would potentially mean in practice and why anyone who tries it is going to be extremely unpopular. Seems like there is a growing pushback from the fiscal right to the idea that Reform are going to ‘balance the books’ by targeting immigrants and aid spending rather than austerity that’ll hit a lot of their voter base as well.
Lots of people say the Government should significantly cut spending. Hardly any spell out how that could be achieved.So kudos to the Policy Exchange for a serious-minded report proposing spending cuts taking the size of the state down to where it was before the pandemic. pic.twitter.com/vmvashsaIK— Dan Neidle (@DanNeidle) October 30, 2025
― ShariVari, Friday, 31 October 2025 16:48 (one week ago)
I love that when he follows up the post summarising the "key proposals", it's a numbered list which by design gives equal weighting to a worrying but specific one like twenty quid to see a doctor, and an absolutely vast undefined one "cut civil service by 25%"
What would be cut there? What wouldn't be? This vagueness is what's broken about discussions of politics in this country, and that's supposed to be from people who spend every day thinking about government and policy.
Barely anything government or civil service does is well measured imo.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 31 October 2025 17:27 (one week ago)
Completely agree - and I suspect public sector productivity is completely underestimated, especially wider public services and infrastructure.
― Bob Six, Friday, 31 October 2025 17:40 (one week ago)
Yep, and AI is just a massive vague privatisation which people like those who made that report will try to push, with no regard for any fastidious examination or project by project plan, let alone lower level specific stuff like quality of services or who suffers and how when they're turned into slop.
Don't think any of this is inevitable just important to know the enemy, which prob has always been the Big Five, who are bad and global but not Palantir or Oracle or whatever getting talons into large chunks of government spending would be fucking disastrous.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 31 October 2025 17:45 (one week ago)
sorry, extra "not" there
― LocalGarda, Friday, 31 October 2025 17:46 (one week ago)
if we can starve more poor children and make healthcare more inaccessible and too expensive for almost all but just below middle income, then austerity will start magically paying a dividend that it hasn't done yet after 15 years by erm.. god knows.. maybe giving us even more miserable people with low expendable income and struggling like fuck to exist, taller piles of corpses that can't afford to bury themselves, more dead disabled people. I find hope in these ghoulish thinktanks because they are so detached from how most people actually really live in the UK that they will ultimately fail in achieving their small state ultra-austerity objectives. The lie that is been attempted here is that after 15 years of slashing the welfare state, public services, the judiciary, prison services, the NHS, everyfuckingthing that somehow the state is suffering from bloat. Which is so transparently wrong, you need to be an extremist to believe this shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 31 October 2025 18:20 (one week ago)
Yep, there’s a drive to argue that this is necessary or the U.K. is going to need an IMF bailout but a soft acknowledgment that anyone who actually tried this would be at Dina Boluarte approval levels immediately. There isn’t really much option other than broad-based tax increases nobody wants to advocate for either but will probably have to at some point.
― ShariVari, Friday, 31 October 2025 18:56 (one week ago)
you need to be an extremist to believe this shit
Finding this increasingly interesting, the interest groups or individuals who consider themselves sensible or think their views are driven by "the data" when in fact they are complete zealots. Concepts like left and right not sufficient when these people exist.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 31 October 2025 19:09 (one week ago)
I know we've always had these people but just seems more naked at the moment, to me anyway.
Policy Exchange feels like terror cell tbh
― nashwan, Friday, 31 October 2025 20:33 (one week ago)
https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/471152/dear-england-by-southgate-gareth/9781529958294
Introduction by Stephen Graham?
― LocalGarda, Monday, 3 November 2025 12:50 (six days ago)
Well I know what I'm getting for Christmas this year.
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Monday, 3 November 2025 12:54 (six days ago)
didn't the Giggsy and the Nevilles partnership do something similar to this? not a book on leadership but more like a corporate seminar or something for people who want to pick the brains of these successful rich guys who have shown great fortitude in pressure situations throughout their stellar careers, so plods can savour their wisdom and become inspired BTL landlords or something. I have a very solid memory of this, but also don't trust my memory at all these days!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 November 2025 13:03 (six days ago)
I can't quite put my finger on the Southgate's exact politics, but it feels like a specific worldview for a certain type of person, sort of no systemic issues, no political parties, no policies, just feelings of pride and sadness and a very anal patriotism, memories of grandfathers, men talking to their sons while crying.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 3 November 2025 13:04 (six days ago)
i'm calling him the southgate now
Regretting there were no major scandals during his reign as England boss so some subeditor could have used the term Southgategate.
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Monday, 3 November 2025 13:07 (six days ago)
lol, he's such a fucking massive melt. Probably in the top 2% of melts. Melt Ultima!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 November 2025 13:07 (six days ago)
i keep meaning to watch that play as it sounds absolutely fucking hilariously bad. there was a clip of it played on second captains and i think it's available on some streaming service. could be a good one to brighten the spirits.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 3 November 2025 13:12 (six days ago)
its a shame amorim might not be the calamity most have assumed he will be, as i was hoping for a southgate mess at utd. i can't imagine where would hire him now, but i guess he can work the business management degree lecture circuit and never have to show whether he is a good league manager or not.
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 3 November 2025 13:12 (six days ago)
he said today he's done with management in favour of his talk to your sons vibes roadshow. agree tho, it would have been fucking amazing if he got the united job.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 3 November 2025 13:15 (six days ago)
Holy Jesus!! It's a Play!! I just assumed it was some self-help fluff book or something!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 November 2025 13:17 (six days ago)
it's a book he has out now, but they already did a play, like it was touring around for ages. not sure how involved he was in that but it was about him.
― LocalGarda, Monday, 3 November 2025 13:25 (six days ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkDiUifHoAc
how tf does this have a load of five star reviews to add to a trailer which even ten seconds in feels like something an amdram group made and decided not to perform?
― LocalGarda, Monday, 3 November 2025 13:27 (six days ago)
Joseph Fiennes plays Southgate? wtf this feels like reality is being altered by some renegade AI tech. How did I miss all of this.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 November 2025 13:28 (six days ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9lQ1NF3SOo
i can't
― LocalGarda, Monday, 3 November 2025 13:28 (six days ago)
Joseph Fiennes plays Southgate?
he also seems to be playing him like a sort of uk forrest gump
― LocalGarda, Monday, 3 November 2025 13:29 (six days ago)
I have to assume that it isn't quite as bad as that makes it look because it would be impossible to sit through that, let alone give it five stars
― sent a message through the Internet but it rejected (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 3 November 2025 13:47 (six days ago)
thank you ... Gareth
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 3 November 2025 14:19 (six days ago)
wtf the National Theatre?
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 November 2025 16:51 (six days ago)
In a perfect world the National Theatre would be staging a play about about Ally MacLeod and Argentina 1978 World Cup campaign called For Fuck Sake Scotland.
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Monday, 3 November 2025 16:55 (six days ago)
hearing a football crowd sing their own version of Ally's Army on the TV really cheered me up the other day, forget who it was but thanks whoever you were
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 3 November 2025 17:00 (six days ago)
If you'll indulge me for a moment, talking of farcical situations:
https://www.pcs.org.uk/news-events/news/british-library-chief-executive-quits-midway-through-pcs-strike
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Monday, 3 November 2025 17:02 (six days ago)
I once saw Joseph Feinnes in a production of Edward II. It would be worth watching Dear England if Sir Gareth Melter of Meltdom got the Edward II *treatment* in the final act.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 November 2025 17:06 (six days ago)
they've already done that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNXTdFLbhbk
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 November 2025 17:08 (six days ago)
I miss those days when crazy England patriots were more motivated to stick flares up their arses rather than raising and painting bloody flags everywhere. It feels like a lifetime ago!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 November 2025 17:14 (six days ago)
Leaving this here
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/nov/03/french-taxi-driver-david-lammy-fare-dispute
― TAFKAPA (Matt #2), Monday, 3 November 2025 19:26 (six days ago)
Was reading about this a few months back and it backs up the strong, very real sense of Lammy being such an arrogant, horrible cunt irl. A despicable vain self-important man. Get this vile corrupt genocide enabling slug in the dock at The Hague.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 November 2025 19:46 (six days ago)
A 370 mile taxi journey, wtf?
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Monday, 3 November 2025 19:50 (six days ago)
yeah, and it leaves the driver with a 370 mile drive back
― koogs, Monday, 3 November 2025 19:51 (six days ago)
If I was that taxi driver I'd have cut the sleeves off everything in the suitcases and filled them with piss before handing them in.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 November 2025 19:54 (six days ago)
I'm fairly sure Lammy could travel on the French and Italian rail networks largely incognito tbh if he had safety concerns
― TAFKAPA (Matt #2), Monday, 3 November 2025 20:04 (six days ago)
even the fucking Queen used to travel on Eurostar
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 November 2025 20:07 (six days ago)
Corbyn has announced YP has broke 50k members. That's much better than I was expecting tbh. But it would have been much higher if Corbyn had less to do with it and wasn't always putting out pics of him hugging transphobic landlords. Sorry, had to get that barb in.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 November 2025 21:08 (six days ago)
You’re reading my last post on this hate-addled pipe of septicaemia. Goodbye all!— Armando Iannucci (@Aiannucci) November 2, 2025
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 3 November 2025 22:07 (six days ago)
has Rachel Reeves changed her hair because of all the people ripping the piss out of the Lego cut?
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 08:37 (five days ago)
really hope so! I wonder if the automaton Brigit Phillipson has also abandoned the Lego cut. She only has to put up with being despised by 99% of teachers rather than 99% of the country. I remember when the bbc lobby journos were trying to make Reeves a sympathetic character but didn't really have much to work with and didn't get anywhere. I don't think a less severe, less Blairite hairstyle will make fuck all difference to how hated and nationally derided on twitter she is at this point.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 09:00 (five days ago)
I mentioned upthread that Reeves has also gone a bit Angela Rayner redhead to separate her even further from the brunette Lego cut crew.
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 09:09 (five days ago)
My first ever job out of college was in a web design startup (/Nathan barley) and a friend of mine there pointed out to me how all the producers eg, the level between us workers and the bosses, were women, and it was his theory that they were hired instead of men so that the men who founded the company could feel more comfortable bossing them around and telling them what to do. They have quite a bit of power themselves, of course. And it's just speculation. But ever since then I feel like I keep seeing this dynamic
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 09:35 (five days ago)
xp you did Tom, sorry that didn't sink in at the time, on the other hand I try to avoid seeing Rachel Reeves as much as possible
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 09:52 (five days ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G4xq5YXWUAA80UO?format=jpg&name=large
wow, like this is so obv 1000% antisemitic by design.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 09:54 (five days ago)
well or just “other”.. he’s wearing a Palestinian flag, looks kinda swarthy. Don’t vote for the gypsy, he’ll steal your children!
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 10:00 (five days ago)
No it’s clearly antisemitic, it’s a Fagin reference just like this was.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4223091.stm
― colonic interrogation (gyac), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 11:10 (five days ago)
ohhh I see
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 11:20 (five days ago)
Seems kinda weird they're like "this is the sort of tactical ad we need to get the vote out in eh... Brighton and Hove"
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 11:23 (five days ago)
Conversely couldn't it be "we're not winning in fucking Brighton anyway, let's have some mask off racism as a treat"?
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 11:38 (five days ago)
I guess so, or "anyone who would vote for us here is prob a fucking lunatic racist so why not"
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 11:43 (five days ago)
For some reason, wasn’t expecting the head of Reform’s Brighton branch to be the Director of the Brighton Language College / Cambridge ESOL test centre.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 11:50 (five days ago)
The AI clearly took inspiration from the famous poster for Jud Süß (1940).
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 12:14 (five days ago)
Svengali too.
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 12:32 (five days ago)
i'm sure the media will be all over this and we'll hear about nothing but "is Reform antisemitic" between now and the next election
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 12:42 (five days ago)
A quick scan of the headlines and it seems The National is the only press outlet reporting on it (I saw it yesterday on social media but obviously they've taken it down so it never existed, nothing to see here). So basically the only pro-Indy newspaper in the country is the only one mentioning that Reform are basically a bunch of racist shitehawks rather than platforming their nonsensical economic drivellings like the BBC was doing all day yesterday.
― ailsa, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 12:58 (five days ago)
Any word from the Campaign Against Antisemitism on this yet?
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 13:09 (five days ago)
surely Donald Trump, defender of campus Jews, and Elon Musk, keen critic of UK racial politics, will pounce on this and decry it
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 13:12 (five days ago)
obviously on this rainy fascist island the way Corbyn pronounced Epstein was always a much bigger story than a political party referencing antisemitic Nazi imagery to attack a Jewish party leader.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 13:19 (five days ago)
I say steen, you say stine, let's call the whole thing off
― TAFKAPA (Matt #2), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 13:23 (five days ago)
Unclear whether being antisemitic helps them or hurts them with the voter base at this stage.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 13:25 (five days ago)
Definitely the latter I would think given the weird encroachment of outward Christofascist shit into the far right over here.
― colonic interrogation (gyac), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 16:38 (five days ago)
Sorry, former! I read yr sentence as “hurts…helps”, I know the difference between former and latter
― colonic interrogation (gyac), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 16:39 (five days ago)
So irritating that the media are all talking about the Autumn Budget, it's fucking November you eejits!
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 17:52 (five days ago)
that's still Autumn imo
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 18:11 (five days ago)
i mean it's irritating for other reasons but
Probaby because I grew up in Scotland but November never felt like Autumn to me!
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 18:19 (five days ago)
i'd say it's late Autumn but lol i did wonder if Scottishness had something to do with it
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 18:21 (five days ago)
🗣️ 'Do you like New York mayor Zohran Mamdani?' - @SophyRidgeSky🗣️ 'I don't follow American politics especially closely...I'll follow the big stories' - @bphillipsonMP 🗣️ 'Some people might say this is a big story...' - Sophyhttps://t.co/wJR1U4lWY9Sky 501 pic.twitter.com/lIhKPTrJj2— Ridge and Frost (@RidgeandFrost) November 5, 2025
lool
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 10:04 (four days ago)
Robot malfunction.
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 10:17 (four days ago)
taking the approach of that other political mastermind Mike Johnson
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 10:35 (four days ago)
she just got a software update from the McSweeney politburo : "My name is Barbie and I only read Donald Trump posts... My name is Barbie..."
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 10:36 (four days ago)
Wes seems more enthused.
Inspirational campaign and victory for @ZohranKMamdani in NYC. Lessons for progressives the world over. https://t.co/WT8usWKKis— Wes Streeting (@wesstreeting) November 5, 2025
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 5 November 2025 11:18 (four days ago)
did you watch the Zohran stonewall video then Wes
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 11:21 (four days ago)
Wes pitching himself as "I'm more left wing than Starmer" is it?
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 11:28 (four days ago)
Yes, I think he's been doing that for a while now.
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 11:34 (four days ago)
I'm sure Robo-Bridget losing the Deputy Leadership contest has shown Wes which way the wind's blowing in the party.
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 11:36 (four days ago)
Not sure which I prefer, Philipson-style I-don't-know-her-Mariah-Carey.gif or Paul Mason pretending that he's celebrating. Both equally noxious really
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 5 November 2025 11:36 (four days ago)
disgusting spice-addled MI5 op and f/t grifter Paul Mason frequently does a lot a lot of dog whistle attacks on UK left-wing Muslims and calls them Putin assets etc but then he somehow has a different set of values on Mamdani and is happy to praise his win. A lot of even more gritted teeth congrats from hilariously bitter Dem grandees. is this almost their Corbyn 2017 moment? but obviously not as a much of shock. They saw this train coming.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 11:40 (four days ago)
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/7f92/live/1c6fba90-ba36-11f0-9bc3-15f9891aeafa.jpg
Edenbridge bonfire are burning Starmer this year. Saw an interview where they said they had two strong candidates for the effigy, but Starmer proved to be even more despised by the committee than celebrity nonce Prince Andrew
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 14:16 (four days ago)
Celebrity nonce vs. celebrity nonce enabler.
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 14:17 (four days ago)
Andrew was polling better than Starmer last week, it checks out. Sometimes you have to work out how right-wing the Starmer haters are, because some of them (who need their heads examining) think he's a woke social-democrat with an open borders policy.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 14:22 (four days ago)
yeah it really ruins Kieth-hating for me when there are so many Kieth-haters doing it for wrong, deluded reasons
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 14:26 (four days ago)
im able to separate those and still enjoy hating him
― plax (ico), Thursday, 6 November 2025 08:12 (three days ago)
don't get me wrong it's still enjoyable
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 November 2025 08:16 (three days ago)
I just want to see some ignorant rightoids losing their shit over at least some mild social-democratic rebukes to the neoliberal death-grip, but we are not even getting .00000001% of anything even approaching that from Kieth!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 08:40 (three days ago)
the Yank-pilled global right are just barking at phantoms it's true
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 November 2025 08:42 (three days ago)
sad thing is that kieth just wants to be their fwend :(
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2025 09:15 (three days ago)
What
Genuinely one of the most bizarre things this government has done. A three line whip to block a £30 brick for nesting birds being added to new builds. https://t.co/syEBzcLvBv— Marl Karx (@BareLeft) November 5, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 November 2025 09:28 (three days ago)
yeah i saw that this morning, tho it looks like the U-turn was a couple of weeks ago. just cunts being cunts for the love of the game i guess
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 November 2025 09:29 (three days ago)
probably a load of money from building companies too
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 November 2025 09:30 (three days ago)
someone needs a swift brick to the head
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2025 09:32 (three days ago)
in line with their other policies regarding migrants though i guess
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2025 09:33 (three days ago)
they are very focused (the three evils: sparrows, snails, trees!) on building houses without a fucking clue (or even any intent at all) on how these particular newbuilds are going to alleviate the housing crisis as is experienced by most of the UK, it won't. Just the most corrupt, braindead set of morons since the last lot were in government. It's like what Polanski posted to Steve: The party is just dripping in property developer money and they are just creating assets for foreign investors.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 09:45 (three days ago)
posted to Steve "build build build baby" Reed I meant
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 09:46 (three days ago)
jesus, what a cunt
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 09:49 (three days ago)
had a close encounter with a swift over the summer. came out of my house and saw this suspicious-looking feathery lump on the pavement...
https://i.ibb.co/Qj6gzNzT/IMG-9494.jpg
got a bit closer and of course it was a sparrowhawk sat on her prey...
https://i.ibb.co/xtkn7whm/IMG-9503.jpg
someone came along the pavemenmt from the other direction and scared her off, and there on the ground was a young swift, a bit freaked out but mostly unharmed with just a few feathers missing from their rump. cos their wings are so long and their legs are so short they can't take off from the ground, so we let them recover for a bit then lifted them up and off they flew...
https://i.ibb.co/0VnDs1Vd/IMG-9507.jpg
(...but out of the shadows the sparrowhawk emerged and glided off in pursuit...)
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2025 09:59 (three days ago)
Wow, they’re beautiful!
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 6 November 2025 10:01 (three days ago)
I saw one catching some smaller prey that was just a blur it was so quick in a mid-flight swoop once. Terrifying sight!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 10:03 (three days ago)
got to admit, as magnificent creatures as they are. I'm not very fond of sparrowhawks. They look quite evil!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 10:14 (three days ago)
there was a fuckin massive pheasant sitting on the balcony in my garden when I looked out on Tuesday, just staring through the window and cawing, it was cool as shit
― Sgt. Biscuits, Thursday, 6 November 2025 10:19 (three days ago)
not sure why I felt the need to describe it like the captain of a college football team tho? fuckin sick brah
― Sgt. Biscuits, Thursday, 6 November 2025 10:20 (three days ago)
I always in awe of Herons and the wild Parakeet colony that lives towards the Horbury greenbelt. Not seen any Deers in 18 months now, alas.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 10:21 (three days ago)
fucking love parakeets, invasive loud bastards tho they be
― Sgt. Biscuits, Thursday, 6 November 2025 10:26 (three days ago)
thankfully the myth that Jimi Hendrix started the UK's wild parakeet population in the 60's has been thoroughly debunked. Stupid fucking boomers!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 10:32 (three days ago)
ive come to hate herons because every time you see one, someone goes 'oh he's spotted something' and you stand there waiting expectantly for it to dive and they never do. I feel like i saw one dive as a child once, but now i've come to think perhaps this is a false memory.
― plax (ico), Thursday, 6 November 2025 10:48 (three days ago)
every time I see a heron it's watching the koi carp in the garden of the b&b next door, unfortunately for the heron they are behind a sturdy mesh, but a bird has to have aspirations I guess
― giving you schtick (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 6 November 2025 10:51 (three days ago)
I've seen them gliding along the river, doing the odd swooping manoeuvre. Got no memory of seeing a full-on dive.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 10:53 (three days ago)
We have a family of deer out the back of our house, I can waste hours just staring out the window at them just standing around (and occasionally bounding over fences). We also have sparrowhawks which are evil bastards, and magpies which are also evil bastards. And badgers and foxes. They'll build on that land over my dead body.
― ailsa, Thursday, 6 November 2025 10:53 (three days ago)
I know it's proppa Gramma but my dyslexic brane has never accepted Deer as plural. lol wtf is right with me!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 11:02 (three days ago)
Sounds great ailsa. Magpies often try to nest in the courtyard of my block of flats and they're SO LOUD when they're agitated - and they're always agitated! Terrible bullies and opportunists but I do admire their bravado.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 6 November 2025 11:07 (three days ago)
Just say deers and fuck the haters imo
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 6 November 2025 11:09 (three days ago)
We tried having a bird feeder in our garden but squirrels are a) very clever in disarming any attempts at preventing them from getting to food and b) not up for sharing.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 6 November 2025 11:10 (three days ago)
We have a bird feeder too but the evil magpies scare everything off. Then the squirrels eat everything.
― ailsa, Thursday, 6 November 2025 11:18 (three days ago)
― 🤷♂️ Cunt Tory Cheese (wins), Thursday, 6 November 2025 11:38 (three days ago)
We just had Zack Polanski at the picket. He's not really a rabble rousing speaker but he did OK. Zadie Smith tomorrow??!!
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 November 2025 12:04 (three days ago)
she's a total melt, lol!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 12:15 (three days ago)
she'll make Zack seem like an o.g. Bolshevik
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 12:20 (three days ago)
Polanski admits he had a sheltered upbringing and didn't really become politically aware until relatively late in his life. It was while he was in Atalanta and going to gay clubs there, where there was a lot of crossover with the afro-American gay scene. And that was where he realised what an inequitable, racist shithole the US (and by extension the wider world) is. Not quite the toolmaker shite story.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 12:26 (three days ago)
Not sure joining the Lib Dems would have been the route I’d have taken after that, tbh.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 6 November 2025 12:30 (three days ago)
oh I know, that was a major red flag, lol!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 12:34 (three days ago)
Not a very red flag though.
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 November 2025 12:38 (three days ago)
Hate to say it but Polanski and the Greens (and some of their supporters on twitter) give me Clegg-era Lib Dem vibes but I hope I'm wrong.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 November 2025 12:38 (three days ago)
Agreed but party politics, maybe all politics, does involve working with or gaining the cooperation of some complete idiots
I say this as a complete idiot
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 November 2025 13:07 (three days ago)
Is he not of an age to have joined the Kennedy iteration of Lib Dems?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 6 November 2025 13:10 (three days ago)
Joined under Farron and left two years later when they wouldn’t let him stand as an MP, iirc.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 6 November 2025 13:14 (three days ago)
I should say i am pretty sceptical of Polanski and his agenda (wealth tax proposal is weaker than Elizabeth Warren’s one, etc) but it matters much less with the Greens than it would with a party that has a more top-down decision structure.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 6 November 2025 13:16 (three days ago)
Jus incredible to me that the single USP this government claimed from the beginning was that it would make the Labour Party electable again by pivoting hard from left-populist Corbynism into a centrist politics of managerial competence and fiscal responsibility so they created all these rules for themselves to prove it and ran a million miles away from anything even vaguely controversial except it turns out that nobody gives a shit about managerial competence they just want an affordable life but that would require difficult choices and political courage and anybody capable of that has been expunged from the party in a ruthless flopsweat about the aforementioned respectability and competence so the upshot is that they have now made themselves toxically unelectable!!! THE OHHHH THE IRONING
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 6 November 2025 13:28 (three days ago)
I think if it were just that, it would be easier to come back from. But so many of those with power in the party (mcsweeney, reeves) seem driven less by pragmatism or a sense of 'what the public really wants' and more by their fantasies of 'being in charge' and 'smiting their enemies'. Streeting and Mahmood seem, at least to some extent, opportunistic chancers. On this front, Starmer is still comparatively enigmatic to me. It's really hard to tell whether he believes in any of this.
― plax (ico), Thursday, 6 November 2025 14:50 (three days ago)
imo he's a wet-brained simp who enjoys the trappings of power and has learnt how to attain this position from basically from just doing everything the opposite way to Corbyn. i.e. starve kids, be an unquestioning kneejerk pro Nato Atlanticist, bend your knee for the King (while you suck his crusty bollox), be ready to launch trident nukes (even though they don't even work) if Corbyn said breathing was good he'd be asking for some anti-oxygen policies. Problem is McSweeney is quite braindead and seems to have been running the show, he's just some weird right-wing geek drunk on power and who thinks he's Rasputin. There is no economically literate people in the party, hence the magic belief that they could grow the economy just because they are not Tories on a minor technicality.
Also conversely I think Corbyn has a similar instinct for paying bullshit lip service to the democratic processes of the party while sneakily centralising all power. More of a Labour Party thing than a uniquely Starmer/Corbyn thing.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 16:36 (three days ago)
I think Stephen Bush recently described the Tories as acting like a government - putting out complex 30-point budget proposals, etc, years ahead of an election they won’t win, and Labour as acting like an opposition - lots of strongly-worded statements, condemnations, agenda-setting, etc, but little actual governing.
It does look like Labour has little faith in the idea that government can proactively change anything in practice.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 6 November 2025 16:57 (three days ago)
Owen Jones being sued for libel over BBC Gaza articlehttps://www.thenational.scot/news/25600664.owen-jones-sued-libel-bbc-gaza-article/
JOURNALIST Owen Jones is being sued for libel after an article about the BBC's coverage of the genocide in Gaza allegedly led to an editor receiving death threats.
Raffi Berg
context: includes a link to the original article
Raffi Berg: BBC Middle East Editor Exposed as CIA, Mossad Collaboratorhttps://www.mintpressnews.com/bbc-israel-coverage-raffi-berg-cia-mossad-links/288909/
― djmartian, Thursday, 6 November 2025 17:17 (three days ago)
He'll have to have strong crowdfunding game if the BBC are going in two feet like this
― plax (ico), Thursday, 6 November 2025 18:54 (three days ago)
looks like it's Berg who's suing rather than the BBC
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2025 19:09 (three days ago)
maybe OJ's MI5 paymasters will help him out (joeks). Actually I have not trusted OJ since 2015 and at vital moments he has pivoted towards the establishment and against the left, like during early Corbyn and then during the cooked up Labour antisemitism *crisis*. Like the Novara lot, there is something palpably just not trustworthy or genuine about him. Yeah I know I'm breaking crank here, but just do not trust the fucker. And the fucking Novara lot, they have like a thousand live YT viewers and they can afford to pay for production staff and an expanding team of presenters and pay themselves (and a useless thick twat like Michael Walker) decent wages. Who funds these grifters!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 19:27 (three days ago)
there was that scandal in the US where it came out that the Dems were pumping dark money into politics influencers and paying them $8k a month as long as they kept stum about it and towed the line. The UK version of this will be exposed and it will turn out the dark money in this case was like £20 per week and a few crates of sprite.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 19:33 (three days ago)
I'm really getting obsessed with how insidious and evil Bastani is. Because there are some decent people who contribute towards NM. And I imagine it's a vital revenue stream for them. So then they are in hock to Bastani and whoever the fuck is funding his project. So he could potentially monopolise all left-wing content in the UK and they will never be able to criticise all the horrible racist, transphobic or conservative positions Bastani has taken in the name of clicks or whatever other reason over the years.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 19:47 (three days ago)
I mean Tommy Robinson thinks Bastani is a good guy and has praised him publicly
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 19:48 (three days ago)
I'm not saying you're wronng because i didn't really follow him too much before the last couple of years so i'm not so clued up on all that baggage, but Owen Jones' content on Gaza has seemed pretty spot on to me. Not enough voices in the media saying what he's saying at the moment.
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2025 20:09 (three days ago)
Anyway, come on villa, let's have some goals against these grim fucks
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2025 20:14 (three days ago)
It's pretty hard not to be spot on a genocide if you are a putatively left-wing commentariat person, not any other options! But he did also write a pro-Zionist book on Israel. It's common part of his M.O. First launder your left-wing rep in some manageable way and then slyly punch right. He's just got no fucking principles.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 20:15 (three days ago)
calzino's impassioned defense of Raffi Berg has won me over
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 6 November 2025 20:18 (three days ago)
i dunno, i'm happy to hear dissent about some of this stuff to counterbalance the echochamber of my instagram feed. raffi berg can do one though
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 6 November 2025 20:25 (three days ago)
I'd defend Paul Mason before I'd defend that cunt! Sorry anyway I'm tired and ranting like crazy here. But everything stands!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 20:26 (three days ago)
I meant to say punch left, of course!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 20:27 (three days ago)
It's never been that OJ was particularly excellent, he just wasn't a complete shithead, it's easy to look good when the bar is so low. We live in a timeline where "LGBT people should have rights" and "genocide is bad" are seen as extremist positions.
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 6 November 2025 20:48 (three days ago)
the bar is so fucking low I actually started watching Novara Media for coverage on the genocide because the BBC was so sickmakingly murder compliant as the horror started. Never forget that some of these putatively left people are also dodgy as fuck. The UK secret services have mostly never bothered with infiltrating neo-fascist (or even o.g, Mosley fascists in the 30's) because they were, or still are perceived as pro-royalty/pro unionist/anti-insurgent political activists and therefore a necessary and more welcome thing than commies and socialists. So just never think it's too conspiratorial to doubt the intentions of people who have the political consistency of bad faith actors... imo
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 21:05 (three days ago)
thank fuck for my internet radio so I can get Al Jazeera news on the morning in the kitchen now. Radio 4 was destroying my mental health.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 21:09 (three days ago)
Like there is a Scottish account I follow on twitter called MSM monitor (terrible name but good account) that kind of just logs all the pro Unionist/anti SNP media activity by BBC Scotland and other branches of Scottish media. It's just a good reminder that the BBC is a fucking deep state op these days, and little else!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 21:14 (three days ago)
Novara (Michael Walker at least) did the first decent vid I saw on the MTA ultras in Amsterdam so will give them that.
― nashwan, Thursday, 6 November 2025 21:18 (three days ago)
Sami Hamdi's wife (he's the UK journalist that has been arrested and detained by ICE agents in the US) was not very happy with him making judgemental comments on her husband after playing an obviously AI or Edit Suite manipulated video designed to make her husband look as bad as possible because he is pro-Palestine. If he wants to call himself a journalist, he's deffo UK standard.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 21:24 (three days ago)
And yet my sister-in-law, who grew up in Israel, recently was ranting on Facebook about the BBC being heinously anti-Israel and lots of her friends and relations chimed in to say they've stopped watching BBC News and even stopped paying the licence fee!
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 November 2025 21:30 (three days ago)
lool, it's enough to drive you insane at times!
another Michael Walker classic was that Starmer referencing Enoch Powell in the "Island of Starngers" speech was remotely racist at all. He's so fucking thick he's not fit to analyse tiddlywinks tournaments, never mind fucking politics.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 21:33 (three days ago)
*was not^
fucking typing going nuts here
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 6 November 2025 21:34 (three days ago)
Well done Lucy Powell, the PM’s newly elected Deputy Leader. Advising government to keep its Manifesto promises on tax is good advice.— John Redwood (@johnredwood) November 7, 2025
Not sure what Powell is up to as it’s hard to see any ‘left’ challenge to Starmer being able to promise ‘more money in people’s pockets’ rather than tax increases.
― ShariVari, Friday, 7 November 2025 08:10 (two days ago)
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, November 6, 2025 9:09 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
I've never been able to bear radio 4 for a minute. I had a housemate who loved to play it in the kitchen and it drove me insane. i would always change the dial to a local pirate radio station that was just this guy, who had been up all night, interrupting drum and bass tracks for shoutouts every 15 seconds. my housemate would change it back.
― plax (ico), Friday, 7 November 2025 08:17 (two days ago)
I was a bit surprised by the recent characterisation of Powell as 'to the left' and 'an ally of Burnham.' In part because I sometimes feel like I'm the only person who remembers pre-Corbyn Burnham. But also because I remember Powell being heavily present in the Starmer team pre-general election. I guess that was gesturing to the 'soft left' or whatever. I cant picture her as a credible one-woman wrecking show. If that's the biggest threat they have internally i can't imagine mcsweeney is quaking.
― plax (ico), Friday, 7 November 2025 08:21 (two days ago)
I've got to that stage to be not able to bear R4 for ten seconds. There is no way back from that!Powell has never seemed like someone who even knows what day it is never mind internal party plotting! It's even hard to pin her to the soft left. I can't even remember what she did to get sacked by Starmer. But some good old fashioned Norwegian style tax and spend should be a normal soft left position. Fuck knows what she is on about here.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 November 2025 08:23 (two days ago)
Reeves being an economically illiterate moron making stupid unviable Tory style election pledges and slavishly sticking to Osborne's OBR bullshit is the problem here. Any other answer means you are fiscally right wing.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 November 2025 08:31 (two days ago)
at the very least im glad powell seems to have forced a couple of awkward questions on the anti-trans stuff, though i am not suggesting those wont be easily dismissed
― plax (ico), Friday, 7 November 2025 08:42 (two days ago)
Bizarrely Yaxley-Lennon just passed our picket in the back of a black cab.
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Friday, 7 November 2025 10:30 (two days ago)
I mean we're just alongside St Pancras so maybe it isn't bizarre but nonetheless.
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Friday, 7 November 2025 10:31 (two days ago)
Solidarity can come from the most unlikely places.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 7 November 2025 10:39 (two days ago)
it could be all time in his youth that he spent in libraries
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 7 November 2025 10:42 (two days ago)
Apologies for my ignorance but what are you picketing?
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 7 November 2025 10:47 (two days ago)
British Library.
― Massage Attack (Tom D.), Friday, 7 November 2025 12:01 (two days ago)
PCS comrades solidarity
― Rory DelayRepay (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 November 2025 12:49 (two days ago)
does being GB homesec turn you into a rw shithead or is it only rw shitheads that are qualified to be GB homesec
― ||||||||, Saturday, 8 November 2025 21:37 (yesterday)
Mahmood was already a member of Labour Together before attaining high office so fair to say she has been a right-wing twat for some time
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 8 November 2025 21:46 (yesterday)