"They did sign up for it, actually...": US POLITICS, MAY 2025

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Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 May 2025 15:17 (one month ago)

Take it over to the Handmaid's Tale thread.

clemenza, Thursday, 1 May 2025 15:29 (one month ago)

health and human services department published a report today suggesting gender affirming care for youth is harmful and that it should be replaced with conversion therapy

just actively killing us at this point

ivy., Thursday, 1 May 2025 15:35 (one month ago)

Pelosi primary challenger is a rich guy but seems alright

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/tech-millionaire-saikat-chakrabarti-faces-pelosi-20298729.php

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 1 May 2025 15:39 (one month ago)

reposting this amazing quote here:

"We are working with other countries to say ‘We want to send you some of the most despicable human beings to your countries.”

- marco rubio, yesterday

z_tbd, Thursday, 1 May 2025 15:56 (one month ago)

i personally did not get the reference, but i will also preserve the lol response :)

- Emma Lazarus

― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Thursday, May 1, 2025 10:12 AM (forty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 1, 2025 10:14 AM (forty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

z_tbd, Thursday, 1 May 2025 15:57 (one month ago)

health and human services department published a report today suggesting gender affirming care for youth is harmful and that it should be replaced with conversion therapy

just actively killing us at this point

― ivy., Thursday, May 1, 2025 10:35 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

gotta love them suggesting behavioral therapy as an option like it's a new idea. at least in our state, therapy is required and a therapist has to sign off before a minor can receive gender-affirming care.

na (NA), Thursday, 1 May 2025 16:00 (one month ago)

One of the major failings of media coverage of trans issues has been not making it clear to everyone what gender-affirming care actually is and how it works. I've talked to people who aren't necessarily anti-trans but are just not well informed and they have no idea how long and rigorous the whole process is. The idea that it's something people are doing on a drive-by basis has been effectively planted and not seriously challenged in the mainstream media.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 1 May 2025 16:06 (one month ago)

i personally did not get the reference, but i will also preserve the lol response :)

ha! Emma Lazarus wrote the poem inscribed on the Statue of Liberty.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 May 2025 16:09 (one month ago)

ok lol

https://i.imgur.com/XZos42P.png

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 1 May 2025 16:13 (one month ago)

i think tipsy very otm about informing the world what gender affirming care is.

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Thursday, 1 May 2025 16:16 (one month ago)

the thing is also it should be available to everyone on a drive-by basis

ivy., Thursday, 1 May 2025 16:17 (one month ago)

like anyone who wants hormone replacement therapy should get to do it. it changed/saved my life. barriers to it kill ppl. further barriers to it will kill more ppl

ivy., Thursday, 1 May 2025 16:18 (one month ago)

I am at the rule of law protest on the sidewalk in front of the US Supreme Court in DC right now

curmudgeon, Thursday, 1 May 2025 16:18 (one month ago)

Thank you curmudgeon <3

imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 1 May 2025 16:20 (one month ago)

Thanks curmudgeon!

Kung Fu Gift Shop (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 1 May 2025 16:29 (one month ago)

i think what ppl need to understand is that 1) they, you, everyone you know can or will be taking medications that affect your hormones through your whole life, e.g. my testosterone blocker is identical to the acne meds i took in high school 2) whether they know it or not, there is probably a trans person in everyone’s life, and access to this care is literally the difference between life or death. there should be vending machines full of estrogen and testosterone on the fucking street, jk, i’m kidding, i actually enjoy that my transition is monitored by my doctor who is also trans, but beyond him showing me a powerpoint presentation on the side effects and prescribing me the actual medication, there were no barriers to entry, and if there were, i might not have done it

ivy., Thursday, 1 May 2025 16:42 (one month ago)

I mean, what the standard of care should be is obviously an open question. I'm just saying that there IS a standard of care, and that is almost never spelled out in coverage of the issues. My own mom had no idea that, like, medical associations the world over had been considering and setting standards and practices for gender affirming care for years, way before it became this right-wing punching bag. She gets all her news from NPR and the NYT and somehow that had never come through to her.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 1 May 2025 16:51 (one month ago)

do these ppl really believe liberals are dumping hormones into the water supply. i just want ppl to recognize that gender affirming care is GOOD and NECESSARY along with the fact that it’s excessively aggressively regulated so that maybe in the future, beyond the present moment, it can be less excessively aggressively regulated. idk i would like to do both

ivy., Thursday, 1 May 2025 16:52 (one month ago)

I am at the rule of law protest on the sidewalk in front of the US Supreme Court in DC right now

― curmudgeon, Thursday, May 1, 2025 11:18 AM (forty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Thank you!

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 1 May 2025 17:10 (one month ago)

CAN YOU MAKE ME FIRED?

https://i.ibb.co/HDR79KXD/Messenger-creation-F43-C61-F6-FBD8-4-F4-D-B44-A-A3-D2-DF54-EF91.jpg

Neanderthal, Thursday, 1 May 2025 17:13 (one month ago)

One of the things about gender affirming care and what it is or isn’t is - ITS STILL NONE OF YOUR (OR MY) BUSINESS! Leave people the fuck alone! If you’re going thru cancer or aids or getting a buttlift don’t care what your treatment is! If you want a treatment (or if you choose to not have treatment) i hope you can get it but otherwise it’s none of my fucking business! AND I DONT CARE! FUCK!!!!

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 1 May 2025 17:51 (one month ago)

i'm sure someone smart has written about this but something i think about a lot is the rise of the internet eradicating the concept of minding your own business

na (NA), Thursday, 1 May 2025 17:53 (one month ago)

I can barely keep track of my own family and friends let alone some kid in nebraska who needs HRT

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 1 May 2025 17:55 (one month ago)

the dominant narrative now is that gender care is ONLY men becoming women so they can compete and dominate in womens sports and it's just not fair

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 May 2025 18:00 (one month ago)

I feel like there was a time when conservatives kinda understood that, maybe they never meant it but there was that "whatever you do on your property is your business" mentality for a while, the difference now is that right wing media has convinced their viewers **its coming for them**, or their kids, like they really believe the public school system is pulling kids aside and telling them to be transgender

frogbs, Thursday, 1 May 2025 18:04 (one month ago)

(xp) ... and use female toilets.

Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 May 2025 18:05 (one month ago)

the furrification of out children is underway

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 May 2025 18:06 (one month ago)

My congressman wrote a very concerned letter to the University of Tennessee because some right-wing outlet noted that there was a campus furry club. He strenuously objected to any public money being used to support the club, which of course there is no public money going to it. I looked up the club's social media account, it's just a bunch of happy dorky kids hanging out together (mostly not in fursuits, at least in their photos).

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 1 May 2025 18:11 (one month ago)

Like, the shit these people decide is something to worry about, it's just boggling.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 1 May 2025 18:11 (one month ago)

xp People don’t need to know what gender affirming care anyone may or may not be getting, it’s absolutely not their business at all, it is between you and your doctor and whomever absolutely needs to know for provision of benefits and then in confidence.

But people should know what gender affirming care is, and why it is necessary and helpful. Because if you leave people ignorant they will assume stupid shit, ban you, hunt you, jail you, burn you, or kill you. Crazy people will wanna do that anyway. Nobody should help them by allowing ignorance on the matter to survive.

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Thursday, 1 May 2025 18:18 (one month ago)

When I say crazy people i apologize for that word, i mean criminal and evil people, tbc.

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Thursday, 1 May 2025 18:19 (one month ago)

ty and agreed

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 1 May 2025 18:29 (one month ago)

in a broader sense a big problem right now is that the right has been very strongly conditioned over the last decade to believe that empathy is a weakness, that other people's lifestyles *should* be your business, either because they're unfairly getting something you're not or because they want to eliminate *your* way of life. like all this shit about the "gay agenda" or the "trans agenda", as though their life's mission is to make more queer people.

these two things go together, like maybe they're not convinced their kids are really being talked into taking hormones by their 5th grade teacher but they can't say it's *not* happening because they people they trust say it *is*, but it still gives them reason to be suspicious of people who they already think are weird, and they're being told that it's actually good to be a judgmental prick

frogbs, Thursday, 1 May 2025 18:48 (one month ago)

I feel like other people's lifestyles have pretty much always been an obsession of the cultural right, it's not any new thing. A great desire to police other people's "morality" and impose conservative mores on them. cf "Harper Valley PTA"

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 1 May 2025 19:01 (one month ago)

for sure but it feels like the *only* thing they have now

frogbs, Thursday, 1 May 2025 19:03 (one month ago)

the culture war dovetails with the 'make america pray again' evangelical bullshit

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 May 2025 19:10 (one month ago)

sadlol, Rubio named "interim" nastional security advisor and waltz nominated to be UN ambassador

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 May 2025 19:55 (one month ago)

Meanwhile … the grift goes on.

Sitting in front of a packed auditorium in Dubai, a founder of the Trump family cryptocurrency business made a brief but monumental announcement on Thursday. A fund backed by Abu Dhabi, he said, would be making a $2 billion business deal using the Trump firm’s digital coins.

That transaction would be a major contribution by a foreign government to President Trump’s private venture — one that stands to generate hundreds of millions of dollars for the Trump family. And it is a public and vivid illustration of the ethical conflicts swirling around Mr. Trump’s crypto firm, which has blurred the boundary between business and government.

Zach Witkoff, a founder of the Trump family crypto firm, World Liberty Financial, revealed that a so-called stablecoin developed by the firm, would be used to complete the transaction between the state-backed Emirati investment firm MGX and Binance, the largest crypto exchange in the world.

Virtually every detail of Mr. Witkoff’s announcement, made during a conference panel with Mr. Trump’s second-eldest son, contained a conflict of interest.

Gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/01/us/politics/trump-cryptocurrency-usd1-dubai-conference-announcement.html?unlocked_article_code=1.D08.gwIF.qNS01bh4CeAC&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 1 May 2025 19:56 (one month ago)

This is a dorky Dylan reference, but the corruption in this administration reminds me of "the drilling in the wall" throughout "Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts" — this constant background hum that kind of gets ignored because of all the drama in the foreground, but it's where the real action is.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 1 May 2025 19:58 (one month ago)

That Waltz dude is the first malfeasant douchebag to leave this admin?! BBC just said this I cannot believe this.

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Thursday, 1 May 2025 20:39 (one month ago)

he is gonna be the u.n. ambassador, apparently

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 May 2025 20:41 (one month ago)

yes. he has a much easier job now (all he has to do is say "yes" to anything israel wants and vote against the rest of the world). meanwhile, marco rubio has plenty of free time and is doing a great job, so he's going to add national security advisor to his portfolio

z_tbd, Thursday, 1 May 2025 21:00 (one month ago)

Re

"We are working with other countries to say ‘We want to send you some of the most despicable human beings to your countries.”

We're not sending our best

zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 May 2025 22:18 (one month ago)

Of all the heinous shit he says on a daily basis I don’t know why his “two dolls instead of thirty” remark rankles me so much. It’s so incredibly tone deaf and stupid. I wish it would turn out to be his “let them eat cake” moment, and end similarly.

Founder of America’s Golden Age (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 1 May 2025 22:53 (one month ago)

Meanwhile … the grift goes on.

_ Sitting in front of a packed auditorium in Dubai, a founder of the Trump family cryptocurrency business made a brief but monumental announcement on Thursday. A fund backed by Abu Dhabi, he said, would be making a $2 billion business deal using the Trump firm’s digital coins.

That transaction would be a major contribution by a foreign government to President Trump’s private venture — one that stands to generate hundreds of millions of dollars for the Trump family. And it is a public and vivid illustration of the ethical conflicts swirling around Mr. Trump’s crypto firm, which has blurred the boundary between business and government.


Where’s Hunter???$!!!!

Kung Fu Gift Shop (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 1 May 2025 22:55 (one month ago)

Yo

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Thursday, 1 May 2025 22:58 (one month ago)

absolutely naked corruption that would've sank any other president, but hey what can you do? Nothing, there's nothing that can be done

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 May 2025 23:04 (one month ago)

yeah but we're posting on ILX

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 May 2025 23:11 (one month ago)

I don’t know why his “two dolls instead of thirty” remark rankles me so much. It’s so incredibly tone deaf and stupid. I wish it would turn out to be his “let them eat cake” moment, and end similarly.

The inherent misogyny of it all. Not only are they insuring girls today will have no rights in the future, they want to deny them a happy childhood as well.

And Barbies and Barbie-like dolls aren't really that expensive, particularly in comparison to video games and the like. Even then, kids themselves frequently save allowance and chore money to buy them, so it's like "Hey, let's tax the shit out of these dumb prole children!".

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 May 2025 23:39 (one month ago)

yeP... tariffs = VAT, no other way to describe it

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 May 2025 23:40 (one month ago)

as though their life's mission is to make more queer people.


Just to push back on this: this actually is part of the gay/queer/trans agenda, insofar as we want people to feel safe and comfortable in being their true selves in this Christofascist hellhole. I DO want more gay people and trans people, and treating this as something that isn’t noble and awesome is… I dunno, i guess i just have a problem with the rhetorical framing

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 2 May 2025 01:19 (one month ago)

Otm

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 May 2025 01:23 (one month ago)

Seconded

Neanderthal, Friday, 2 May 2025 01:25 (one month ago)

I remember seeing my first Lesbian Avengers "We Recruit" T-shirt in New Orleans in the '90s, I thought it was amazing.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 2 May 2025 02:06 (one month ago)

everyone’s already queer just repressed to different degrees

ivy., Friday, 2 May 2025 02:12 (one month ago)

Honey, don't I know

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 May 2025 02:18 (one month ago)

You luv 2 be lectured on thrift and humility by the guy with seventeen gold toilets

zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 May 2025 02:26 (one month ago)

Classic NY Post

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/05/MAY01.P1_LCF.jpg

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 2 May 2025 02:32 (one month ago)

Oops sorry so LARGE

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 2 May 2025 02:33 (one month ago)

Table OTM. I want a world with radical acceptance for my son, where people can just be, not be normal but just be; but there’s a fuck of a lot getting people just to tolerate and then accept before we can get there.

This was a real revelation taking my toddler to the pride street party this year - normal, normalized, it’s just such bullshit it suggests there’s a not normal and an ‘other’. Like I say I just want people to be who they are whatever that is with no qualifiers.

Ed, Friday, 2 May 2025 03:35 (one month ago)

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/john-fetterman-struggle-mental-health-clinical-depression.html

conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Friday, 2 May 2025 14:00 (one month ago)

yet reporters knew this but kept their secrets for the sake of a book

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 May 2025 14:06 (one month ago)

extremely alarming article; if you can't read nymag here's a link: https://archive.ph/7fGvy

rob, Friday, 2 May 2025 14:56 (one month ago)

He’s not the only one who is uneasy. Former and current staffers paint a picture of an erratic senator who has become almost impossible to work for and whose mental-health situation is more serious and complicated than previously reported. No one is saying every controversial position (for example, his respectful relationship with Trump) stems from his mental health — but it’s become harder for them to tell which ones do. When I spoke with Fetterman in April and shared those concerns, he denied anything was amiss. He told me that he felt like the “best version” of himself and later texted that the staff turnover at his office was typical of Washington. “Why is this a story?” he asked.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 May 2025 15:08 (one month ago)

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/US-China-tensions/CIA-s-Mandarin-language-spy-recruiting-ads-mocked-in-China

https://archive.ph/oXKmF

Time to euthanize the deep state

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Friday, 2 May 2025 15:15 (one month ago)

funny with rfk and fetterman we have two guys with traumatic brain injuries who "evolve" from very liberal to "radical centrist" in the blink of an eye.

kind of makes you wonder about those who hold those views who haven't had any brain trauma. their brains came pre-damaged.

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Friday, 2 May 2025 15:25 (one month ago)

there's a lot going on in that article (I found the brief aside about his right-wing insurance executive father notable in an armchair psychoanalyst way), but it shouldn't be overlooked what a despicable racist he is.

re radical centrism: fetterman is also a super useful way of showing what a pathetically vain political position this is, based entirely on a bone-headed insistence on being the only one who can think clearly. it's particularly bleak in fetterman's case where clear thinking is so clearly and profoundly not happening

rob, Friday, 2 May 2025 15:33 (one month ago)

Serious question did fetterman play football in HS/college

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 2 May 2025 15:35 (one month ago)

He said he "sleepwalked" as a young adult while playing four years of football in college, intending eventually to take over ownership of his father's business.

sleeve, Friday, 2 May 2025 15:36 (one month ago)

yeah I'll admit I hadn't ever really looked into his biography and am a little surprised at how phony his salt of the earth public image is

rob, Friday, 2 May 2025 15:41 (one month ago)

He said he "sleepwalked" as a young adult while playing four years of football in college, intending eventually to take over ownership of his father's business.

what a weirdly phrased sentence

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 May 2025 16:04 (one month ago)

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/US-China-tensions/CIA-s-Mandarin-language-spy-recruiting-ads-mocked-in-China🕸

https://archive.ph/oXKmF🕸

Time to euthanize the deep state


Not too deep if they are advertising.

Kung Fu Gift Shop (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 2 May 2025 16:08 (one month ago)

He said he "sleepwalked" as a young adult while playing four years of football in college

man his coach musta been pissed, terrible pass rushing technique

Neanderthal, Friday, 2 May 2025 16:14 (one month ago)

Trump goes after PBS & NPR.. but they're currently funded through the end of 2027, after the midterms

(Does anyone know why there appears to be an Eastern Orthodox priest in the crowd of onlookers?)

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/02/media/trump-cpb-pbs-npr-funding-cut-hnk-intl

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 2 May 2025 16:24 (one month ago)

that one affects me. :( i just got a full-time position with _self-censored_, like 2 weeks ago. i think i should be ok but this month they're already making budget decisions on staff for the next FY and, even though funding is already secured for next year, they're likely to be thinking forward to the next stage of our glorious country when making decisions about the coming year

z_tbd, Friday, 2 May 2025 16:37 (one month ago)

the nice thing is i know i can rely on the legal system and the checks and balances of the constitution to ensure that the blatantly illegal EO isn't followd

z_tbd, Friday, 2 May 2025 16:38 (one month ago)

do you need a sternly worded letter

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 May 2025 16:39 (one month ago)

this nugget in the article means that this 'proclamation' is scrawling on a cocktail napkin and little else

In Trump’s first term, his annual budget proposals zeroed out the funding for the corporation, but Congress always allocated the funds anyway — a reflection of the fact that national Republican opposition to NPR and PBS is countered by local support

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 2 May 2025 16:41 (one month ago)

do you need a sternly worded letter

send it straight to marjorie taylor greene, the leader of the house investigation into the chilling corruption of public media

z_tbd, Friday, 2 May 2025 16:49 (one month ago)

Garrison Keillor should give her a very quiet talking-to

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 2 May 2025 17:13 (one month ago)

Wait Wait...Don't Defund Me!

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 May 2025 17:15 (one month ago)

Garrison Keillor should give her a very quiet talking-to


Send her a sexual harasser?

Kung Fu Gift Shop (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 2 May 2025 18:00 (one month ago)

As expected, but still demoralizing… major cuts to Affordable Housing funding programs…

sarahell, Friday, 2 May 2025 18:28 (one month ago)

have to say that as someone with a very low opinion of fetterman that I didn’t find that NYmag article to be much of a bombshell…the guy is clearly a wreck, but there didn’t seem to be much new there, or even particularly alarming

brony james (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 May 2025 19:25 (one month ago)

I mean, as Feinstein used to demonstrate and Tommy Tuberville still does, the cognitive bar in the Senate is pretty low.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 2 May 2025 19:30 (one month ago)

and there's Ron Johnson walking around like an open-mouthed glazed donut.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 May 2025 19:35 (one month ago)

Maybe I haven't been paying enough attention, but the turnover of staff to that extent was a surprise to me.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 May 2025 19:35 (one month ago)

i heard something about that in the past few months elsewhere. IMO the guy is dead in the water as far as re-electibility, but he still has quite a few years left in his term.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 2 May 2025 19:39 (one month ago)

Fetterman will live till 100.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 May 2025 19:40 (one month ago)

the one thing I was shocked to learn was that he has a father who is still alive!

brony james (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 May 2025 19:42 (one month ago)

haha so much for taking over his business

sleeve, Friday, 2 May 2025 19:59 (one month ago)

I guess I thought him buying a gun and wandering into traffic was kind of alarming. it's striking in cases like this that there's really no mechanism for getting this guy out of office for his and our sake

rob, Friday, 2 May 2025 20:03 (one month ago)

Fetterman is not even in the top 10 of guys that should be gotten out of office for our sake

sarahell, Friday, 2 May 2025 20:22 (one month ago)

Tied with Susan Collins imo

sarahell, Friday, 2 May 2025 20:24 (one month ago)

who said anything about top 10?

rob, Friday, 2 May 2025 20:24 (one month ago)

Sorry … I just think there are many many more dangerous people in power

sarahell, Friday, 2 May 2025 20:26 (one month ago)

well sure, me too, but I don't see a problem with taking a few minutes to think about this one particular exampled of how terrible the US system of govt is

rob, Friday, 2 May 2025 20:31 (one month ago)

There aren't many more dangerous Democrats in power.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Friday, 2 May 2025 20:43 (one month ago)

There are however many more senescent Dems in power.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 May 2025 21:24 (one month ago)

Take as many minutes as you see fit, rob

sarahell, Friday, 2 May 2025 21:36 (one month ago)

apparently his dream budget contains the word 'woke' several times (as well as 'DEI & gender')... is there an appendix that defines this word? Would love to know what they think it means

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 2 May 2025 22:44 (one month ago)

they think it means votes

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 2 May 2025 22:50 (one month ago)

The volk don't want no woke

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 3 May 2025 18:48 (one month ago)

Wokeswagon

sarahell, Sunday, 4 May 2025 03:12 (one month ago)

i have been given photographic evidence that RFK jr wears jeans at the gym and hearsay that it is his 'thing'

https://i.gifer.com/origin/e0/e0ae4e32dec48d18fee054a845de951c_w200.gif

mookieproof, Sunday, 4 May 2025 03:19 (one month ago)

During his campaign he was showing off lifting weights and serious weightlifters were making fun of the light weights and his shitty technique

Kung Fu Gift Shop (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 4 May 2025 03:26 (one month ago)

I have a hard time caring about RFK Jr's poor lifting technique. It seems kinda beside the point.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 4 May 2025 16:56 (one month ago)

Because he got those “muscles” through steroids. Anyway this was during the campaign; now we have a bigger problem.

Kung Fu Gift Shop (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 4 May 2025 17:57 (one month ago)

Trump says "I don't know" when asked whether he needs to uphold the Constitution: https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lodz6fabi22e

jaymc, Sunday, 4 May 2025 18:12 (one month ago)

Part of his new commitment to honesty; he really doesn't know.

clemenza, Sunday, 4 May 2025 20:07 (one month ago)

Can't blame him. After all, he fomented a coup against the constitution, was impeached by the House, and the Senate told him "hey! not a problem. we're good with it."

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 4 May 2025 20:11 (one month ago)

he is not smart. but he totally knows. he will ultimately defy scotus and congress and use the insurrection act and dare congress to impeach him. he knows all the things, he does not care much because he believes he will overcome all obstructions— and having removed many of them. the obstructions are people willing to risk security and say “no” to him.

read _Strongmen_ by Ben-Ghiat.

Even his first 100 days are merely a carbon copy of what bannon and miller had primed for djt1 wrt EOs. it was basically called off. this is all the plan, and he is not alone. he is not smart, but he knows his enemies, who are confused and v weak.

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Sunday, 4 May 2025 21:22 (one month ago)

My understanding from his recent posts is that he is advocating:

Re-opening Alcatraz, a designated National Historic Landmark and a part of the Golden Gate National Recreation Area. I can attest that it is a really great tourist destination, reachable by boat in the SF bay. But, come on

Putting tariffs on foreign films to protect our film industry, but how would that even happen? Another a bad idea

Dan S, Monday, 5 May 2025 00:44 (one month ago)

Tariffs on foreign films sounds like he's aiming up to push back on CanCon in Canada/USA trade negotiations

jeff bezoar (sawdust lagoon), Monday, 5 May 2025 00:49 (one month ago)

whatever

Why is the press and congress coddling him? He has no understanding about the economy, knows nothing about commerce or philanthropy or about trade deficits or tariffs or about small businesses or big businesses. He knows nothing at all, and we are letting him fly our plane into the side of a mountain. Why?

Dan S, Monday, 5 May 2025 00:55 (one month ago)

does he think movies are shipped through the ports on cargo ships?
wtf at this man’s brainworms

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 5 May 2025 01:04 (one month ago)

I'd slap a boredom tariff on The Shrouds, otherwise very opposed to that idea.

clemenza, Monday, 5 May 2025 01:06 (one month ago)

How do you even put a tariff on movies? Physical media is already tariffed, where is the digital file’s port of entry?

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Monday, 5 May 2025 01:13 (one month ago)

this is like a fucking w the economy version of Mr Burns “get rid of those sideburns”

whoever on his team first told Trump about tarriffs is now deeply regretting having ever mentioned them

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 5 May 2025 01:17 (one month ago)

Imagine getting lectured by a man who has only seen film -to-back in his life, and it was the Ryan O'Neal assless pants movie in 1981.

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/trump-tariff-foreign-film-national-security-1236386566/

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 5 May 2025 01:55 (one month ago)

"one film front-to-back"

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 5 May 2025 01:56 (one month ago)

trump has held his belief on traiffs for a long time,so nobody on his current team is responsible, mebbe roy cohn in one more thing to hate him for

definition of foreign films seems to include any production shot abroad even if made by an american company,

think i'd mentioned somewhere on ilx about an encounter i had in a bookstore in arlington VA in 99 or 2000 - a woman was asking the clerk at checkout for a recommendation of a mystery series, as he was stumped i suggested the donna leon guido brunentti novels, all going well till i mentioned they were set in venice and she said "i don't read anything set outside the US" leaving me dumbfounded as well - forget reading translations, you've just eliminated shakespeare, chaucer, austen, dickens, entire genres such as sci-fi (well mabe if american colony/outpost - wonder if trump annexes greenland she'd read scndi-noir set there)

but there is no logic or thinking, just mindless jingoism

H in Addis, Monday, 5 May 2025 02:22 (one month ago)

honestly its so hard to believe we're actually in this situation right now, Donald Trump has always been profoundly dumb but his grip on reality is just completely gone now, you could definitely sense it during the campaign after he got shot at but it's worse now and is only gonna go downhill from here. I mean imagine what you'd say if a relative thought "MS-13" was literally tattooed on Abrego Garcia's knuckles. it would be one thing if it was a Reagan situation where it's a bunch of people pulling the strings and doing the real work but Trump is singlehandedly dictating policy and hiring only people willing to follow him off the mountain, he's crashing our economy and torching our trade relationships and threatening war with Greenland and letting the world's richest man cut any spending he wants, all of which is causing real, lasting damage, and....no ones gonna stop him

frogbs, Monday, 5 May 2025 03:02 (one month ago)

and what really sucks about it is Trump is so clearly just a symptom of the problem, I mean there's a story now about a woman who was filmed calling a little boy the N-word who just raised $500,000 on GoFundMe, many of the donations had incredibly racist messages scrawled on them, it just seems so fucked over here right now

frogbs, Monday, 5 May 2025 03:09 (one month ago)

definition of foreign films seems to include any production shot abroad even if made by an american company,

They're trying to recruit/coerce our sic into acting as a tax collector, aren't they?

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 5 May 2025 03:35 (one month ago)

Lol at re-opening Alcatraz …. As someone pointed out in the local paper, it would require having to deal with CEQA … though maybe he would try to abolish CEQA … which would be interesting.

sarahell, Monday, 5 May 2025 06:53 (one month ago)

apparently Escape From Alcatraz was on TV and that was all it took

StanM, Monday, 5 May 2025 07:00 (one month ago)

apparent from what

Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Monday, 5 May 2025 10:14 (one month ago)

I'm not an English speaker and I probably use "apparently" incorrectly.

StanM, Monday, 5 May 2025 10:17 (one month ago)

someone on bsky said:

"I may have context for this! Last night WPBT in Palm Beach broadcast the 1979 Clint Eastwood film "Escape from Alcatraz.""
https://bsky.app/profile/robertandrewp.bsky.social/post/3loey3fzhhc2n

he then posted this screenshot:

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:ow7rlhjmxsdcksj6t6zqqtsf/bafkreibpc5nc6rpxxs4l42e3putzaop2x7hzj744ywu6vxatzx2ctgus5m@jpeg

however, I don't see the movie on the WPBT schedule for Saturday night: https://www.wpbt2.org/schedule/#page=schedule&day=20250503&provider=Broadcast

Saturday Night Cinema is produced by a PBS member station in Spokane, Washington: https://www.ksps.org/programs/saturday-night-cinema/

And I do see it on the schedule for that station:
https://www.ksps.org/schedule/

Note that the screenshot shows South Florida PBS as the station, but when I go to what seems to be the same page, it shows WTTW as the member station -- because that's the station where I live and PBS knows my location.

So my guess is that the Bsky poster lives in Florida and googled "Escape from Alcatraz TV Saturday night" or something similar and found that page, and then assumed that it was being played on the South Florida station (because that's what was visible for him) even though it wasn't.

jaymc, Monday, 5 May 2025 12:27 (one month ago)

OK, wait, never mind, I was too quick to debunk. I went to the guy's feed and he said it *was* aired on a different local PBS station, WLRN. And I was able to confirm that. (I actually did check WXEL, because it's also part of "South Florida PBS," but WLRN is not.)

jaymc, Monday, 5 May 2025 12:32 (one month ago)

so it is "apparent" from this page: https://www.wlrn.org/television-schedule

it aired Saturday, 5/3, at 9 PM

jaymc, Monday, 5 May 2025 12:34 (one month ago)

Somehow I suspect Oliver Stone will not be making a three hour movie about this presidential conspiracy.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 May 2025 12:40 (one month ago)

sic was just being a dic about 'apparently'

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 5 May 2025 12:42 (one month ago)

well, we're both doing our things

jaymc, Monday, 5 May 2025 12:45 (one month ago)

florida man getting escape from alcatraz/eastwood on its fucking PBS affiliate seems yo you know yr audience eh, i mean fuck that highbrow stuff. that is the antiques roadshow that florida craves

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Monday, 5 May 2025 12:50 (one month ago)

WLRN is Miami-Dade and Broward's NPR affiliate, so.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 May 2025 12:58 (one month ago)

Why would Trump be inspired to rebuild it by a reminder that people ESCAPED from it?

Alba, Monday, 5 May 2025 13:21 (one month ago)

I loved that film when I was 10

Alba, Monday, 5 May 2025 13:22 (one month ago)

Next he's going to demand the reopening of Witch Mountain.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 5 May 2025 13:33 (one month ago)

was gonna say, don't let him see Escape from New York

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Monday, 5 May 2025 13:50 (one month ago)

Why did Dems close Witch Mountain?? One of our GREATEST MOUNTAINS! I will put Good Marco and other heroes on this and we will RETURN TO WITCH MOUNTAIN!!

Doctor Casino, Monday, 5 May 2025 13:58 (one month ago)

Under Lying Joe Biden MILLIONS of dangerous criminals escaped from the Planet of the Apes. Why???? Not anymore!!

Doctor Casino, Monday, 5 May 2025 13:59 (one month ago)

So many of our bright Americans want to Escape from the Bronx! With my great real estate deals, THEY CAN! My great company built a BEAUTIFUL golf course there (GREEN!) and we can do it again!! Valuable land, should be hotels!

Doctor Casino, Monday, 5 May 2025 14:02 (one month ago)

ok we're piecing together this conspiracy... can't imagine he would ever actually choose to watch pbs, so my theory is he had just been talking about the EO to stop funding pbs/npr, turned it on to see what objectionable non-trump-fellating garbage they show on this public television thing anyway, found escape from alcatraz about to start, the rest is history. also

Why would Trump be inspired to rebuild it by a reminder that people ESCAPED from it?

is giving this guy's sense of logic WAY too much credit. shiny object; famous, recognizable name, want to promote! the mystique of "alcatraz" is right up his alley

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 5 May 2025 14:04 (one month ago)

He wants to turn it into a luxury prison in case he gets sent there.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Monday, 5 May 2025 14:08 (one month ago)

nah i think he like the rest of us has become fully convinced he is never going to prison

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 5 May 2025 14:10 (one month ago)

Yeah I think it's just he likes things that resonate as "tough" to him. Alcatraz is a name he knows for being tough. Plus of course being in San Francisco Bay easily conjures associated ideas like San Francisco/California being "soft on crime" etc. Round up all those homeless people and put them in Alcatraz!

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 5 May 2025 14:10 (one month ago)

totally. it was the woke left that closed alcatraz because they preferred to put prisoners in luxury hotels

Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 May 2025 14:25 (one month ago)

...and turn prisons into museums (which he also wants to defund/eliminate)

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 5 May 2025 14:27 (one month ago)

Meanwhile ... My 2nd podcast episode is up! This one the featured interview is an organizer in Richmond, Va., whom I connected with via the good offices of Roxymuzak. He has a lot of interesting thoughts about organizing on the left (like, it helps to have a structure and designated leadership) and the problems with corporate Democrats. Plus other stuff.

https://theprogressivesouth.org/ep-2-a-richmond-road-trip/

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 5 May 2025 14:35 (one month ago)

Next he's going to demand the reopening of Witch Mountain. barely suppressed irlol during Monday morning Teams mtg damn you

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Monday, 5 May 2025 14:42 (one month ago)

https://i.imgur.com/7VwThjt.jpg

"These goddamn tariffs will be the ruin of me!"

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 May 2025 14:45 (one month ago)

note the date of the earlier post

https://i.imgur.com/10ossnh.jpeg

jaymc, Monday, 5 May 2025 14:59 (one month ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/may/05/donald-trump-tariffs-film-industry-alcatraz-russia-israel-us-politcs-live-updates

Maga politicians shut down the vote to criminalize Israel boycott

Neanderthal, Monday, 5 May 2025 15:11 (one month ago)

It’s sort of insane that they did the right thing but mostly because they want the right to actually be anti-semitic, not because they give a fuck about Palestinians or the current genocide

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 5 May 2025 15:16 (one month ago)

Appalling that we need MTG to make the obvious point that you can't penalize Americans for criticizing other countries.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 5 May 2025 15:44 (one month ago)

the "we support trump so we can say slurs" camp feels very strongly about that particular aspect of free speech

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Monday, 5 May 2025 15:48 (one month ago)

It’s sort of insane that they did the right thing but mostly because they want the right to actually be anti-semitic, not because they give a fuck about Palestinians or the current genocide

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, May 5, 2025 11:16 AM bookmarkflaglink

sad lol but that was my initial reaction as well

Neanderthal, Monday, 5 May 2025 15:58 (one month ago)

does criminalizing a boycott of Israel mean you go to jail if you don't buy Sodastream?

symsymsym, Monday, 5 May 2025 16:21 (one month ago)

jan 6 memory hole update

Enrique Tarrio, the former leader of the Proud Boys, said he personally thanked President Trump on Saturday night for issuing a pardon that cut short the 22-year prison term he was serving in connection with the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.

Mr. Tarrio’s expression of gratitude came during a brief but extraordinary encounter with Mr. Trump at Mar-a-Lago, the president’s private club and residence in Palm Beach, Fla. Mr. Tarrio and his mother, Zuny Duarte, were invited to have dinner at the property by one of its members.

According to a senior administration official who was not authorized to discuss the episode publicly, the club member introduced Mr. Tarrio and his mother to Mr. Trump as the president was walking through the main room at Mar-a-Lago on his way toward a table on the patio.

Mr. Tarrio and Ms. Duarte said in interviews that they spoke with Mr. Trump for about 10 minutes, recalling that he told them he believed that his supporters who faced charges arising from the Capitol attack had been mistreated.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/04/us/politics/trump-tarrio-proud-boys-pardon.html
https://archive.ph/a5TSn

z_tbd, Monday, 5 May 2025 17:11 (one month ago)

sic was just

I was genuinely asking and was subsequently delighted by jaymc’s ferreting

do think there’s essentially zero chance he watched any narrative fiction in full this weekend or any day this year, but Lavator’s speculation is too good to dismiss

Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Monday, 5 May 2025 17:42 (one month ago)

Trump’s brain works like Plinko on The Price Is Right. You drop in a Big Mac and eight hours later he remembers being mad that Bloodsport wasn’t filmed in Atlantic City or that it took James Bond to escape from the Rock.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Monday, 5 May 2025 17:47 (one month ago)

thanks for the image of a Bic Mac sliding down the Plinko pegs, smearing pickles and mustard and sauce.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 May 2025 17:57 (one month ago)

^^^ soon to replace the checks-and-balances system as the metaphor for US government taught in Social Studies across the land

Doctor Casino, Monday, 5 May 2025 17:59 (one month ago)

stop soiling my fond memory of the best Price is Right game

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Monday, 5 May 2025 18:05 (one month ago)

Has Trump gotten around to watching Pootie Tang yet

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 5 May 2025 18:06 (one month ago)

sign your executive orders on the runny kine

Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Monday, 5 May 2025 18:29 (one month ago)

can we get him to watch Bulworth?

otoh maybe that's a bad idea

sleeve, Monday, 5 May 2025 18:31 (one month ago)

the alcatraz thing is gonna be a big stupid boondoggle that will never come to anything, but they're gonna jaw about for awhile until he moves on to the next non-problem

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 5 May 2025 18:32 (one month ago)

COVFEFE

sleeve, Monday, 5 May 2025 18:34 (one month ago)

Georgia governor Brian Kemp has announced he won't run for the Senate next year, increasing the odds Ossoff will retain his seat.

Brad C., Monday, 5 May 2025 19:17 (one month ago)

MTG has been rumored as wanting to run against Ossoff.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 5 May 2025 19:20 (one month ago)

she's in a real safe district, but not sure how she'd do statewide

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 5 May 2025 19:40 (one month ago)

in running against Ossoff she'd have to remove herself from the House

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 5 May 2025 19:46 (one month ago)

Jan Schakowsky has officially announced she won't be running for reelection, making it an open primary for that seat.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 5 May 2025 19:47 (one month ago)

xp A recent Atlanta Journal-Constitution poll had Ossoff trailing Kemp 46/49 while leading MTG 54/37. There will be a scramble for the GOP nomination and it's not a given she'll be the candidate, but I think Ossoff would like to run against her.

Brad C., Monday, 5 May 2025 19:50 (one month ago)

MTG couldn't run for the House and Senate in the same election, so it wouldn't matter if she lost in the Republican primary. she'd still be out of the House... unless she won as a write in in the general election.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 5 May 2025 19:54 (one month ago)

MTG could stay in that seat for literally decades, she'd be a dumbass to do a senate run

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 5 May 2025 19:55 (one month ago)

so a senate run is a definite then

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Monday, 5 May 2025 19:55 (one month ago)

she'd be a dumbass to do a senate run

And if there's anything we know about Greene, it's that she's a tactical genius, a truly canny political operator, not at all a knuckle-walking dipshit who rode a bunch of Facebook-HOA-page level grievances to the safest possible political gig.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 5 May 2025 19:57 (one month ago)

MTG is remarkably unpopular, exactly the sort of candidate who could not win anywhere outside of a deep deep red district. i hope she does run for Senate.

frogbs, Monday, 5 May 2025 20:03 (one month ago)

Not really shocked, but just learned that Alcatraz had no sewage treatment plant... everything just went right into the bay

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 5 May 2025 20:52 (one month ago)

that's why you could flush yourself down the toilet to escape

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 5 May 2025 20:52 (one month ago)

RE Alcatraz, it seems to me he has stumbled upon the truth that mentioning these ridiculous ideas keeps ppl talking about him. So it satisfies one of his highest priorities, the other being people giving him money. I suspect he at least has the self-awareness to know it’s a ridiculous idea but that it’s a winning political strategy. Exasperate the reasonable, entertain the cult, meanwhile let the even ghoulier ghouls trash everything outside of the limelight. He is a horrible person.

tobo73, Monday, 5 May 2025 20:52 (one month ago)

I mostly agree with that characterization, but then he'll start going off about invading Greenland and I'm beyond exasperated

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 5 May 2025 20:59 (one month ago)

...or Canada as the 51st state thing, which is such bugfuck old man thinking.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 5 May 2025 21:03 (one month ago)

GlobalX, an airline used by the Trump administration as part of its massive deportation campaign, has reportedly been hacked.

On Monday, 404 Media first reported news of the breach, based on a defacement message on the airline’s official website and stolen data that the hackers shared with the news website.

“Anonymous has decided to enforce the Judge's order since you and your sycophant staff ignore lawful orders that go against your fascist plans,” wrote the hackers, who claimed to be affiliated with the amorphous hacktivist group Anonymous.

The hackers were referring to rulings by several judges ordering the Trump administration to return people who were wrongfully deported to El Salvador.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/globalx-airline-used-trump-deportations-184519422.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFSvzIM6fx3gYLhH1pvNRvnmrqnWSqdLHNqfWZdtOBCXlpbB6Jsy7QZf0Zo8sY5PPA7-UsQO9XjADxvlr8EAq4X-P1Jt6LTLHZj8-6FCFtL-5GztBfSuxPuC2yvFvKdE2Ucrc3DUyPjj9oW0lfqdTHmZKspLOD4RuLgAFOjHBI9s

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 May 2025 21:19 (one month ago)

I would be genuinely surprised if Elon isn’t involved with GlobalX

Kung Fu Gift Shop (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 5 May 2025 21:49 (one month ago)

X marks the snot

Doctor Casino, Monday, 5 May 2025 23:08 (one month ago)

more legal news re lawsuits and Trump Admin--

Attorney Mark Zaid has filed a lawsuit against the White House, saying the suspension of his security clearance, which has disrupted his clients' legal representation, is unconstitutional retaliation by Trump.

A federal judge has temporarily blocked the CIA from firing Dr. Terry Adirim, who claims the agency targeted her for termination after criticism by Laura Loomer and Ivan Raiklin.

Another judge has sounded the alarm on the Trump administration's alleged violations of due process in immigration proceedings. Judge Larence Valardo said the administration view of due process was "downright frightening."

Another notable lawsuit filed today comes from Eric Iverson, a US citizen and prosecutor at the ICC who says Trump's executive order threatening sanctions against the ICC has effectively stopped his investigation of war crimes in Darfur.

from legal affairs reporter Kyle Cheney on Bluesky

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 May 2025 23:16 (one month ago)

Please show him Logan’s Run this week.

Ed, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 06:08 (one month ago)

Soylent Green jokes are suddenly less funny now

StanM, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 09:17 (one month ago)

what the hell is this shit Gavin. "Make America Film Again"?? how are leading Dem politicians misreading the moment so badly?!?

https://bsky.app/profile/governor.ca.gov/post/3lohxbi7xgs2o

frogbs, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 14:03 (one month ago)

how are leading Dem politicians misreading the moment so badly?!?

i think it's money. people with tons of money perceive the moment behind a gigantic barrier of their own construction, supported by an entire class of people who want to maintain that gigantic barrier

z_tbd, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 14:45 (one month ago)

you think of him as a Democrat who got corrupted by money, he thinks of himself as money trying not to get corrupted by Democracy

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 14:53 (one month ago)

I think all the times we praised his hair got to his brain.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 15:00 (one month ago)

Honestly he is probably trying to represent California… there have been multiple articles recently about how LA workers in film/tv are struggling as productions are moved elsewhere, including offshore.

sarahell, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 15:17 (one month ago)

It would be great if he also publicly challenged the cuts to the NEA, NEH and museums and libraries which will also result in a lot of job losses in media/arts/culture in California

sarahell, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 15:22 (one month ago)

Or pointed out that Trump's vague, stupid, nonsensical "idea" has Jack shit to do with helping out struggling film and tv workers.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 15:24 (one month ago)

lol, sorry, total non-sequitor, but i was just reminded that fucking DR OZ runs the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services

z_tbd, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 15:25 (one month ago)

The threat to national security is a bit

sarahell, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 15:35 (one month ago)

Honestly he is probably trying to represent California… there have been multiple articles recently about how LA workers in film/tv are struggling as productions are moved elsewhere, including offshore.

― sarahell, Tuesday, May 6, 2025 10:17 AM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, my sense that he and Whitmer see Trump as an opportunity to make lemonade out of lemons, to get whatever they can for their constituents by taking advantage of Trump's transactional approach to everything. The problem is that this is a devil's bargain because Trump will screw them without thinking twice, and while they may be able to extract certain things from Trump that may satisfy a small portion of their constituents, the majority of Democrats in their states are turned off by any type of collaboration with Trump.

jaymc, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 16:04 (one month ago)

Are any strategies being thrown around beside the usual 'throw tax credits at rich people' strategies for encouraging domestic film production?

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 16:07 (one month ago)

Wonder if Melania's movie is using American crews.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 16:15 (one month ago)

Well we still have no idea if he meant US films with foreign crews, or actual foreign films, and what the actual limitations would be, right? Afaict it's still firmly in the territory of "Trump just said some shit" but no specifics aside from "100% tariffs", which can't actually happen because films are not categorized as goods.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 17:25 (one month ago)

The Environmental Protection Agency plans to end Energy Star, a popular program whose iconic blue labels have certified the energy efficiency of home appliances for more than three decades, according to two people briefed on the matter.

During an all-hands meeting Monday of the EPA’s Office of Atmospheric Protection, Trump administration officials announced that the office would be dissolved and that Energy Star would be eliminated, the two people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to comment publicly.

z_tbd, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 17:25 (one month ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/06/us/politics/2026-senate-map-democrats-schumer.html?unlocked_article_code=1.FE8.DMvu.eNZ3GM4oKzgL&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Oh great, Schumer is in charge of getting Dem candidates to run in next Senate elections. He seems to just make a few calls to predictable candidates

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 18:13 (one month ago)

BREAKING: The U.S. Supreme Court allows Trump's anti-transgender military ban to go into effect while litigation proceeds.

The stay of the district court's injunction was issued with no reasoning and over the objections of Justices Sotomayor, Kagan, and Jackson

From lawyer/ law reporter Chris Geidner on Bluesky

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 18:19 (one month ago)

so fucked up

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 18:37 (one month ago)

thank you for your service!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 18:39 (one month ago)

not that I trust Tillis as far as I could throw him, but it would be funny if after all of his bootlicking, dude couldn't even get the post: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/06/trump-prosecutor-martin-tillis-senate-gop.html

of course, that just means Trump will slow walk his replacement nominee like he did in first term, so that his 'acting' can be in place a bit longer.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 19:23 (one month ago)

“Mr. Martin did a good job of explaining the one area that I think he’s probably right, that there were some people that were over-prosecuted, but there were some 200 to 300 of them that should have never gotten a pardon,” Tillis said.

very 'ok so the Holocaust was bad but the death toll was over-exaggerated' energy there.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 19:25 (one month ago)

and if the attorney nominee hadn't been in Tillis' state he would've voted for him, see

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 19:50 (one month ago)

this is diplomacy in action

Foreign embassies have been disinvited from an annual Washington event commemorating the end of World War II in Europe this week, after a group of European embassies protested the organizers’ decision to include ambassadors from Russia and its close ally Belarus.

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 20:45 (one month ago)

I think all the times we praised his hair got to his brain.

https://foxyguilfoyle.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/ba_leah.jpg

Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 22:10 (one month ago)

It's not that he's an opportunist, they all are, but he seems like an opportunist with bad judgment.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 22:23 (one month ago)

The stay of the district court's injunction was issued with no reasoning

This phrasing seems apt. No reasoning could have been employed in issuing this stay. Cowardice, sure thing, and prejudice, but not reasoning.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 22:24 (one month ago)

"We haven't had time to come up with reasons yet, but we know what the conclusion is."

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 22:28 (one month ago)

Awful photos from Nashville yesterday outside a detention center after ICE did a sweep in a heavily Latino neighborhood, with help from the state Highway Patrol. State troopers conducted the stops — which ICE can't do — and then pulled aside anyone without valid ID. Then ICE took them. Anyway, the pictures are of friends and family members outside the center trying to find out anything at all about the people who were taken.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1AWd5zKrZ4/

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 00:08 (one month ago)

but they only detained the dangerous criminals, right?

Fuck this shit

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 00:15 (one month ago)

this fucked up shit is what he promised during the campaign, just like he promised the tariffs. ofc he also promised to reduce inflation and the cost of groceries and to stop the war in ukraine. all on "DAY ONE". and DOGE would be an appointed commission to make recommendations for efficiency, not a bunch of vigilante tech bros crashing the system.

we need ways to raise the stakes higher for Republicans in Congress until they fear us more than Trump. which is easy to say, hard to do.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 00:33 (one month ago)

Especially when this kind of random cruelty is exactly what their constituents love.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 00:37 (one month ago)

https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/its-over-republican-jefferson-griffin-concedes-in-north-carolina-supreme-court-race/

conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 14:30 (one month ago)

good morning!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 14:32 (one month ago)

starting to the think this is the real reason behind Trump's Greenland obsession

https://www.insidehook.com/internet/peter-thiel-praxis-next-great-city-greenland

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 20:33 (one month ago)

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21534416/free-state-project-new-hampshire-libertarians-matthew-hongoltz-hetling

seems like a great idea to do this in a place with POLAR bears

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 20:54 (one month ago)

those nazi weirdos always want to reborn Hyperborea or Tartaria or Valhalla or some butthole to the inner world shit

llurk, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 21:29 (one month ago)

New Pangea or gtfo

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 21:31 (one month ago)

the power and the glory hole

llurk, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 21:35 (one month ago)

the power and the goatse

sleeve, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 21:36 (one month ago)

Good point from Chris Hayes:

"It's crazy how the entire supposed constitutional theory of Trump 2.0 is that all power is vested in this single individual, down to every last tiny detail and whenever you ask him he's like 'I have no idea; ask the lawyers'"

jaymc, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 21:37 (one month ago)

glimmer of good news, I'll take what I can get

A federal judge in Massachusetts ruled on Wednesday in favor of immigrant rights advocates who asked him to block the government from deporting migrants to Libya, amid reports that the US military planned to fly detained immigrants there this week.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 22:06 (one month ago)

This whole thread is nuts

https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3lom4dpmzvs25

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 22:16 (one month ago)

“Both Libyan governments” will refuse deportees.

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 22:20 (one month ago)

It just keeps getting more and more stupid. Apparently the admin is sending letters to foreign companies and government including… the city of Stockholm… demanding that they end their DEI programs within 10 days.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 22:33 (one month ago)

Trump team urged Ukraine to take U.S. deportees amid war, documents show

The extraordinary request illustrates the administration’s aggressive bid to identify willing partners who will accept people expelled by the U.S.

Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 22:46 (one month ago)

against my better judgement, I agreed to do a 'political' phone survey this morning (I used to do these kind of calls in Sydney so I'm mildly sympathetic to anyone who makes a living this way)..

After a few routine opening questions, it quickly went this direction: "How likely would you be to vote for strong, innovative leadership over the failed one-party policies of democrats in California?" etc.

Out of kindness to the interviewer (who clearly did not live in California, despite the LA prefix) I completed the survey, heavily disparaging the GOP wherever possible... but I will NEVER take another call like that.. how do they get actual people to answer this shit? Like, for the 'real' polling (Axios, YouGov, Morning Consult et al)..?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 23:14 (one month ago)

I dunno Andy you should have fucked with them

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 23:29 (one month ago)

It just keeps getting more and more stupid. Apparently the admin is sending letters to foreign companies and government including… the city of Stockholm… demanding that they end their DEI programs within 10 days.


Because these people are genuinely mentally ill.

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 23:30 (one month ago)

I would like to think most people can tell when they’re being read push polling questions, but I have no idea. People underestimate how many yappers we have out there who just like talking to strangers

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 23:31 (one month ago)

xxp she was not a strong reader and could not pronounce things that any Californio would know, so I went easy on her.. when she said she wanted to share some short bios about some dudes I've never heard of (probably the GOP lackeys that paid for this shit), I put it on speaker and spaced out

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 23:31 (one month ago)

So it appears that Trump withdrew his pick for Surgeon General (Fox News medical contributor Dr. Janette Nesheiwat) not because she was cagey about her education credentials (she went to some doctor mill in the Caribbean), but because she was a little too friendly with the idea of vaccinations and masking during the pandemic (esteemed polymath Laura Loomer mused: 'Is this just Fauci 2.0?')

Instead he's picked a 'wellness influencer' who's good pals with RFKJ, and will definitely help steer us away from sound, evidence-based medical advice

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 May 2025 00:03 (one month ago)

^^^ didn't call an Interstate Highway "The" something

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 May 2025 00:04 (one month ago)

lol

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 May 2025 00:06 (one month ago)

Fuck, appointing an anti-science 'wellness influencer' as surgeon general. Those people are toxic, starting with Mehmet Oz as head of Medicare and Medicaid. Are future generations going to laugh at us for this or is this just a sign that our world is already over? I'm worried that it's the latter

Dan S, Thursday, 8 May 2025 00:21 (one month ago)

she sounds perfectly qualified for this administration: Casey Means has no government experience and dropped out of her surgical residency program, saying she became disillusioned with traditional medicine.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 May 2025 00:27 (one month ago)

The surgeon general recommends lavender oil to treat cancer

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Thursday, 8 May 2025 00:33 (one month ago)

the confounding thing about RFKJ is that he'll say something completely rational about getting ultra-processed foods out of school lunches, followed by some crackpot pseudo-science shit that no sane medical professional would remotely buy into in the slightest

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 May 2025 00:33 (one month ago)

yes

Dan S, Thursday, 8 May 2025 00:36 (one month ago)

jesus fucking christ

A hard-right, Trump-supporting US news network that perpetuated conspiracy theories about the 2020 election will provide news coverage for Voice of America (VoA), the Trump administration said.

Kari Lake, a special adviser to the body that oversees the government-funded VoA, announced on X that One America News (OAN), which was sued by voting machine companies for promoting claims of election fraud, will provide “newsfeed and video service”.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 May 2025 00:49 (one month ago)

welcome to 1984

are you ready for the third world war?

sleeve, Thursday, 8 May 2025 01:37 (one month ago)

It’s obviously old hat to point out the prescience of Idiocracy here in the year 2025, but I think I’m still somewhat stunned by how it didn’t go nearly hard enough. Lotta pulled punches, in retrospect.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 May 2025 01:56 (one month ago)

he'll say something completely rational about getting ultra-processed foods out of school lunches

which he will then likely never do, not under this administration. they're more likely to eliminate school lunches completely.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 8 May 2025 02:06 (one month ago)

More fun with Fetterman

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Democratic Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania was meeting last week with representatives from a teachers union in his home state when things quickly devolved.

Before long, Fetterman began repeating himself, shouting and questioning why “everybody is mad at me,” “why does everyone hate me, what did I ever do” and slamming his hands on a desk, according to one person who was briefed on what occurred.

As the meeting deteriorated, a staff member moved to end it and ushered the visitors into the hallway, where she broke down crying. The staffer was comforted by the teachers who were themselves rattled by Fetterman’s behavior, according to a second person who was briefed separately on the meeting.

The interaction at Fetterman’s Washington office, described to The Associated Press by the two people who spoke about it on the condition of anonymity, came the day before New York Magazine published a story in which former staff and political advisers to Fetterman aired concerns about the senator’s mental health.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 8 May 2025 03:46 (one month ago)

I was just going to post this. Guy is losing it.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 8 May 2025 04:07 (one month ago)

well, i think we all learned an important lesson here. you can get away with a lot if you’re a big guy who wears shorts

z_tbd, Thursday, 8 May 2025 04:30 (one month ago)

I guess him pulling a gun on that jogger in 2013 wasn't some wacky isolated incident. He lost it a long time ago if he ever had it.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 8 May 2025 04:37 (one month ago)

His wife should leave him and run for his seat, I think she is much more beloved than he is

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 8 May 2025 04:53 (one month ago)

Couldn’t happen to a nazier guy

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 May 2025 05:06 (one month ago)

if only we had a tradition of recognizing congress members were medically unfit for duty

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 8 May 2025 13:20 (one month ago)

But it will pare back other tariffs Mr. Trump imposed on British steel, aluminum and automobiles. In return, the British will open up access to beef, poultry, ethanol, soft drinks, cereal and other products.

all Trump cared about was our ability to make the Brits fatter

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Thursday, 8 May 2025 16:25 (one month ago)

Oooohhh, he must be pissed at this new pope stealing his thunder right now

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 May 2025 16:32 (one month ago)

‪Dr. Lucky Tran‬
✧@luckyt✧✧✧.c✧✧‬
· 14m
The Trump administration has terminated HICPAC, the CDC’s infection control committee.

The committee sets national standards for hand-washing, mask-wearing and isolating sick patients.

This reckless move will make patients at healthcare facilities much more vulnerable to deadly infections.

sleeve, Thursday, 8 May 2025 16:33 (one month ago)

It will take years to see the full extent of the dam age but I bet in four years we will see a 90s-Russia-like drop in life spans

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 May 2025 16:38 (one month ago)

Dam age yeah I made an accidental pun

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 May 2025 16:39 (one month ago)

Then we'll do what Stalin did, wait til the average life expectancy is like 30, elect someone with some level of competency to restore things, then claim American exceptionalism "doubled the average life span" even though it's still much lower than it was

Neanderthal, Thursday, 8 May 2025 16:48 (one month ago)

They've already done that vis a vis crowing about the recentish stock market surge

henry s, Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:00 (one month ago)

yes!

Neanderthal, Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:01 (one month ago)

Fuck yeah Martin nomination pulled

Heez, Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:39 (one month ago)

Make sure to flush the remainder

Neanderthal, Thursday, 8 May 2025 18:00 (one month ago)

Marisa Kabas‬
✧@marisaka✧✧✧.b✧✧✧.soc✧✧✧‬
· 43m
BREAKING: FEMA’s most senior official Cameron Hamilton has been FIRED and walked out of the building, an agency source confirms.

He testified just yesterday that he didn’t think the agency should be eliminated, per Trump and DHS Sec. Kristi Noem’s wishes. Apparently the wrong answer.

sleeve, Thursday, 8 May 2025 18:09 (one month ago)

Marisa Kabas‬
✧@marisaka✧✧✧.b✧✧✧.soc✧✧✧‬
· 56s
To recap, the head of FEMA was fired a few weeks before the start of hurricane season and replaced by someone with no emergency management experience.

sleeve, Thursday, 8 May 2025 18:09 (one month ago)

Heckuva job Brownie

zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 8 May 2025 18:15 (one month ago)

“It is such an honor to realize that he is the first American Pope,” Trump said

It is such an honor to realize It is such an honor to realize It is such an honor to realize It is such an honor to realize It is such an honor to realize It is such an honor to realize It is such an honor to realize It is such an honor to realize It is such an honor to realize words are meaningless now words are meaningless now words are meaningless now words are meaningless now

z_tbd, Thursday, 8 May 2025 18:17 (one month ago)

Ah yes, the people of the world will finally now be aware of America and Americans

zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 8 May 2025 18:18 (one month ago)

at a certain age, it becomes an honor to realize anything at all

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Thursday, 8 May 2025 18:18 (one month ago)

Loomer already yelling about a "Marxist Pope" lol

sleeve, Thursday, 8 May 2025 18:25 (one month ago)

I'm not a Catholic, but I am amused by this persistent idea that there is a right and wrong way to pope that is tied to their take on American politics

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Thursday, 8 May 2025 18:28 (one month ago)

What is the obsession with eliminating FEMA?

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 May 2025 19:19 (one month ago)

they want to leave everything to the states, while simultaneously dictating what the states can & can't do

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 May 2025 19:20 (one month ago)

doing the hard stuff for the people

The House took a largely party-line 211-206 vote Thursday to rename the Gulf of Mexico as the “Gulf of America,” moving to codify President Donald Trump’s recent executive order.

One Republican, Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.), voted against the bill that had been led by firebrand Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), who hailed it as “one of the most important things that we can do this Congress.”

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 May 2025 19:27 (one month ago)

they'll probably fill his head with cannonballs and powder his behind

Neanderthal, Thursday, 8 May 2025 19:33 (one month ago)

Congress has willingly ceded all other power to the emperor, so…

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 May 2025 19:37 (one month ago)

xp There's a long history of conspiracy theorists seeing FEMA as an arm of the Deep State.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 8 May 2025 20:20 (one month ago)

of course, FEMA is why helicopters are painted black

z_tbd, Thursday, 8 May 2025 20:47 (one month ago)

Heckuva job Brownie

― zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, May 8, 2025 1:15 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Beat me to it

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 8 May 2025 20:57 (one month ago)

This stupid fuck just named Jeanine "I can drink that pussy Pete Hegseth under the table" Pirro interim US attorney for Washington, DC.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 9 May 2025 01:12 (one month ago)

Hannity must be so mad right now

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Friday, 9 May 2025 01:24 (one month ago)

one world government! isn't that what the crackpots have been fretting about for decades>

Stockholm rejects ‘bizarre’ US letter urging city to scrap diversity initiatives

A city official in Stockholm has said the municipality has no plans to comply after one of its offices received a letter seeking to impose Donald Trump’s rollback of diversity measures, in what is believed to be the first such missive sent to a foreign government.

“It’s so bizarre,” said Jan Valeskog, Stockholm’s vice-mayor for planning. “It’s our political priorities that count, not the ones from this embassy or any other embassies.”

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 May 2025 01:42 (one month ago)

Ro Khanna coming to Kenosha this weekend under a broader Bernie banner anti oligarchy tour… I'm skeptical at best about that guy. They're targeting our local rep, Bryan Steil, who is definitely a POS but still, Khanna doesn't strike me as a believable anti oligarchy figure.

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 9 May 2025 03:00 (one month ago)

My superficial impression of Khanna is of a career opportunist. Not automatically a bad thing in politics, it's just how a lot of them are. It's how a lot of people end up in those jobs in the first place.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 May 2025 03:07 (one month ago)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2025/05/08/trump-fires-librarian-of-congress/

President Donald Trump fired Carla Hayden, the librarian of Congress, on Thursday evening.

Hayden was appointed in 2016 by President Barack Obama and was the first woman and first African American to hold the position. She was also the first librarian by profession to be appointed to the job in decades. Typically, historians and scholars have led the Library of Congress.

A spokesperson at the Library of Congress confirmed Hayden’s dismissal in an email but declined to elaborate further.

Grrrr. I was at the Library of Congress tonight seeing the NY Andalus Ensemble playing music with lyrics in Ladino, Hebrew, Arabic, and Spanish with roots in Moorish Spain, and a guest speaker was there also talking about the Library's collection of Moroccan music. I was hoping the Library would stay under control of uh Congress, and be ignored and remain a location for folks doing research and occasional concerts and lectures.

curmudgeon, Friday, 9 May 2025 03:56 (one month ago)

Onion CEO (and former NBC News reporter) Ben Collins reveals he's dating Kat Abu: https://bsky.app/profile/bencollins.bsky.social/post/3lomsmp6rtk2h

So I'm guessing they moved to Chicago together when he got the Onion job. Or at least she moved there because of him.

jaymc, Friday, 9 May 2025 14:59 (one month ago)

is twitter real life? it sure is for this couple

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Friday, 9 May 2025 15:07 (one month ago)

He’s gotta be older, are we going to get a round of age gap discourse?

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Friday, 9 May 2025 15:44 (one month ago)

Really thinking we need to take that “alternate government” idea seriously, if only just as a tactic

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 9 May 2025 15:45 (one month ago)

xp yeah, I think he is about a decade older (36 vs. 26)

jaymc, Friday, 9 May 2025 16:00 (one month ago)

I too thought the Library of Congress was run by Congress. But I suppose they are now the Duma.

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 9 May 2025 16:01 (one month ago)

Congratulations to New Jersey's next governor...

Newark mayor Ras Baraka taken into custody by homeland security in New Jersey

Newark Mayor Ras Baraka was taken into custody by homeland security at an ICE facility in New Jersey on Friday afternoon, according to Alina Habba, the Interim U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey.

“The Mayor of Newark, Ras Baraka, committed trespass and ignored multiple warnings from Homeland Security Investigations to remove himself from the ICE detention center in Newark, New Jersey this afternoon,” read the social media post from Habba.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 9 May 2025 19:32 (one month ago)

Amiri's son iirc

jaymc, Friday, 9 May 2025 19:36 (one month ago)

love her CV

Habba has also held the position of general counsel for her second husband's parking garage company.

In July 2021, Habba represented Siggy Flicker, a former member of The Real Housewives of New Jersey who alleged that Facebook had disabled her account for wishing Melania Trump a happy birthday. Habba wrote a letter to Facebook, which Facebook appeared to ignore. Also in July 2021, Habba represented Caesar DePaço, a vitamin supplement entrepreneur, in a federal court case where she filed a lawsuit against Portuguese journalists for revealing his close connections to the far-right Chega party in Portugal.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 May 2025 19:39 (one month ago)

Amiri's son iirc

You should read up on his mom, Amina Baraka. She's even farther left than Amiri was.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 9 May 2025 19:45 (one month ago)

Isn’t Khanna a liberal democrat from Fremont, CA that is basically a centrist in terms of the political spectrum of the region?

sarahell, Friday, 9 May 2025 22:11 (one month ago)

Stephen Miller going all in on suspending habeas corpus, Article 1 be damned

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 May 2025 22:16 (one month ago)

less than a couple months ago, just suggesting that the Trump admin was angling to jail their political opponents was deemed unacceptable doomposting

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 9 May 2025 22:41 (one month ago)

There is a difference between saying you're looking to maybe do something to the press in hopes of pressuring people into complying in advance and actually doing it.

Neanderthal, Friday, 9 May 2025 22:53 (one month ago)

Isn’t Khanna a liberal democrat from Fremont, CA that is basically a centrist in terms of the political spectrum of the region?

yes

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 9 May 2025 22:54 (one month ago)

seems like things might be bad

budo jeru, Friday, 9 May 2025 23:03 (one month ago)

There is a difference between saying you're looking to maybe do something to the press in hopes of pressuring people into complying in advance and actually doing it.

We seem to be caught in an endless cycle of the Trump admin threatening to do insane things, which gets met with a collective shrug and scolding of anyone who sounds the alarm, and then when they inevitably do the thing they said they'd do, everyone is stunned it actually happened.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 9 May 2025 23:14 (one month ago)

Stephen Miller hates all immigrants, legal or otherwise.. he's made this abundantly clear
(except for the poor Afrikaners, they're welcome anytime)

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 May 2025 23:19 (one month ago)

People think I'm joking when I doubt there will be an election in the US in 2028.

Trump: You have to get out and vote. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four years, it will be fixed, it will be fine. You won’t have to vote anymore.. In four years, you won’t have to vote again. pic.twitter.com/DBGcBr3Wht

— Acyn (@Acyn) July 27, 2024

StanM, Friday, 9 May 2025 23:28 (one month ago)

Oh, bullshit. He says it, doesn't mean it's gonna happen -- unless people wanna give up.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 May 2025 23:31 (one month ago)

There's a difference b/w taking the threat seriously and acting as if the threat means the threat is a fait accompli.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 May 2025 23:31 (one month ago)

Saying he's probably going to do this isn't the same as saying people should accept it and not fight back.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 9 May 2025 23:35 (one month ago)

I always took the 'you won't have to vote' as a clumsy acknowledgment of term limits, essentially saying to people who are infrequent voters that they should get out for this one, just this last time... but yeah, it doesn't sound very good

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 May 2025 23:40 (one month ago)

I take it to mean "we'll do everything possible to stop or steal the election"

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 9 May 2025 23:41 (one month ago)

all eyes on Newark, no he was not protesting, it was a legal visit and someone called and told ICE to arrest Baraka

sleeve, Friday, 9 May 2025 23:44 (one month ago)

plz push back hard on all "protesting" claims

sleeve, Friday, 9 May 2025 23:45 (one month ago)

We seem to be caught in an endless cycle of the Trump admin threatening to do insane things, which gets met with a collective shrug and scolding of anyone who sounds the alarm, and then when they inevitably do the thing they said they'd do, everyone is stunned it actually happened.

― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, May 9, 2025 7:14 PM bookmarkflaglink

Pay attention to what Miller said. He said this is something they're considering if the judges don't play ball. And he said it in the press.

This follows months of him and other members of the administration publicly ostracizing the judiciary.

This messaging is an attempt to make judges afraid to rule against the Trump administration by way of making them think it'll get even worse for migrants in retaliation. And to encourage their own followers to put pressure of these judges until they become fearful enough to back down.

I'm not pretending to have a crystal ball, nor suggesting they haven't done terrible things like defying federal judges in the El Salvador flights. But pressure has also stopped things from happening - including Venezuelan migrants being deported two weeks ago from Texas thanks to the ACLU

We know that court order was complied with as there have not been any reports of those individuals being deported from their families or lawyers. Today, Ozturk was released on bail, due to similar efforts.

There was also this - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-backs-down-student-visa-records/.

There's a reason the Trump admin has been afraid to openly defy the courts similar to a hard autocracy as opposed to try to do so through creative subversion - they know they're losing favor even amongst their own party (albeit slowly) and they are afraid of what the populace will do if they take that tack.

in orbit posted a helpful article before inauguration that pointed out that no matter what we do, we're going to suffer loss. Horrible things are going to happen that we can't stop or slow down and we should grieve those things.

But if we react to every public threat by a member of the Trump admin as a forgone conclusion, shrugging as if to say "time to pack it in", then the victories and the in-roads we did make will disappear and Trump will be able to do as he pleases without interference.

What Alfred said is otm. Be on your guard, but we can't keep treating every pronouncement by the Trump admin as an inevitability, but a rallying cry - what do we plan to do.

Pressure is working - much more than it was in February. But it has a long way to go and we can't capitilate to fear because that's what they want

Neanderthal, Friday, 9 May 2025 23:53 (one month ago)

plz push back hard on all "protesting" claims

― sleeve, Friday, May 9, 2025 7:45 PM bookmarkflaglink

Otm, they're holding him on very weak trespassing claims

Neanderthal, Friday, 9 May 2025 23:54 (one month ago)

Saying he's probably going to do this isn't the same as saying people should accept it and not fight back.

― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, May 9, 2025 7:35 PM bookmarkflaglink

It is, however, giving us the illusion of control in the assumption that Trump will always telegraph what he's going to do in the press and we'll be able to anticipate it.

Most times they've done the most awful of the awful shit, it's been done under a shroud of secrecy only made known by leaks to the press, i.e. the late Friday attempt to start shipping migrants out of the Bluebonnet facility.

Neanderthal, Friday, 9 May 2025 23:57 (one month ago)

hopeful posts Neanderthal, thanks

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 May 2025 23:57 (one month ago)

Of course it's the fuckin New York Times pushing the protest claims

Neanderthal, Friday, 9 May 2025 23:59 (one month ago)

also: they're literally tossing trans troops out of the military... they said they wanted to do it, the courts tacitly agreed, and now they're literally doing

So yeah, they don't always follow through on being awful... but quite often they do

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 10 May 2025 00:02 (one month ago)

I mean I'm not saying believe they aren't who they say they are. Or to assume it's a nothing burger.

But given that judges are human beings who are receiving death threats and harassment, the White House wants them to stand aside. That's the thrust of what he is saying.

The proper reaction is "fuckin try it, and our lawyers are ready to fight you and our civilians are ready to take to the streets and it will not go how you expect"

Just saying don't feel like we are completely powerless - if it happens, the fight is just beginning, it'snot over immediately (not that you were saying that! But there is a lot of that going on and it is how autocracies win

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 May 2025 00:09 (one month ago)

I don't know who here is suggesting judges step aside or that we should pack it in or not fight back.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Saturday, 10 May 2025 00:51 (one month ago)

Ras Baraka has been released.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 10 May 2025 00:56 (one month ago)

Alina Habba and company really desperate, framing a dinky trespassing charge which will at most be a fine (if not outright dismissed) as some big victory.

more and more news sources abandoning the bullshit 'protest' framing thankfully

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 May 2025 01:09 (one month ago)

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/09/us/rumeysa-ozturk-tufts-bail-release

Rümeysa Öztürk has been released.

Despite the judge’s decision, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement attempted to delay Öztürk’s release from the South Louisiana ICE Processing Center in Basile, Louisiana, her attorneys told CNN.

“Despite the 11th hour attempt to delay her freedom by trying to force her to wear an ankle monitor, Rümeysa is now free and is excited to return home, free of monitoring or restriction,” attorney Mahsa Khanbabai said.

symsymsym, Saturday, 10 May 2025 01:39 (one month ago)

Rümeysa Öztürk, the Tufts student kidnapped by ICE six weeks ago, has been released from the prison in Louisiana on orders from a federal judge in Vermont.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 10 May 2025 01:40 (one month ago)

xpost

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 10 May 2025 01:40 (one month ago)

Great news.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 10 May 2025 01:47 (one month ago)

Thank god.

That kidnapping really shook me.

jmm, Saturday, 10 May 2025 01:48 (one month ago)

Wasn’t Habba Trump’s unsuccessful attorney in his New York fraud trial?

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 10 May 2025 01:58 (one month ago)

Pretty funny to staff your Department of Justice with the imminently disbarred.

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 10 May 2025 02:00 (one month ago)

I don't know who here is suggesting judges step aside or that we should pack it in or not fight back.

― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles)

StanM posted, "People think I'm joking when I doubt there will be an election in the US in 2028," which idk, suggests to me we should pack it in because there won't be an American election in 2028.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 May 2025 15:14 (one month ago)

^^just want to point out something, and it’s ok if you and others don’t agree — the stanM post you just mentioned does NOT suggest to me we pack it in.

i understand it does, to you. i’m just pointing out, no, it doesn’t, to some other people, including me.

z_tbd, Saturday, 10 May 2025 15:27 (one month ago)

to me, there is a heavily implied “unless we do something, on our present course we are headed toward…..” in there. one that also might have applied to many statements/predictions/warnings about climate change over the past 30 years

z_tbd, Saturday, 10 May 2025 15:29 (one month ago)

OK, that's fair. My apologies for singling out StanM.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 May 2025 15:29 (one month ago)

He is just going off of the newsie-wewsies iirc

sarahell, Saturday, 10 May 2025 15:33 (one month ago)

any hint of doomposting and I just go nuts, sorry

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 May 2025 15:34 (one month ago)

I get it … I have a go nuts instinct when non US-posters opine on our politics but I try to keep it in check.

sarahell, Saturday, 10 May 2025 15:38 (one month ago)

xp
def nbd from my side! i do think yr perspective on it is legit too, that it sounds like straight up doom without anything to suggest action, or that at least leaves space and hope for action. that’s important too. <3

z_tbd, Saturday, 10 May 2025 15:38 (one month ago)

Agreed, I read it the same way as z_tbd but do feel like saying elections just won't happen is conceding too much. I take it as a given that Trump and the GOP will do everything possible to undermine or stop elections, but there's no reason to just sit back and accept that.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Saturday, 10 May 2025 15:45 (one month ago)

Halting elections altogether is most common in nations where the military has taken over. Authoritarian governments that have occupied the shell of a failed democracy are more apt to continue the formality of holding elections where the outcome has been ordained. Putin, to cite Trump's favorite authoritarian, can proudly say that he holds regular elections in which he is re-elected by a landslide. Just sayin'.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 10 May 2025 16:15 (one month ago)

yeah, it's called competitive authoritarianism. this Foreign Affairs article from earlier this year is still a good guide for what that would (and would not) look like in the U.S.: https://archive.ph/DsTcE

jaymc, Saturday, 10 May 2025 16:18 (one month ago)

Well from the ground in a red state I can say that absolutely zero of our local and state Republicans are acting like there won’t be elections in ‘26 or ‘28. If it’s part of the party plan, no one’s told them.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 10 May 2025 16:25 (one month ago)

Thanks to RFK there may not be any elections in 2028

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 May 2025 16:28 (one month ago)

*erections goddammit

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 May 2025 16:28 (one month ago)

People think I'm joking when I doubt there will be an election in the US in 2028.

🐦[Trump: You have to get out and vote. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four years, it will be fixed, it will be fine. You won’t have to vote anymore.. In four years, you won’t have to vote again. pic.twitter.com/DBGcBr3Wht🕸
— Acyn (@Acyn) July 27, 2024🕸]🐦

I think the less alarming reading of this is him
acknowledging that there's a reluctance to vote among many Christians, ie "Look, I know many of you are apathetic about voting, but vote in 2024 and I won't bother you again: I'll get the stuff that bothers you fixed and it'll be done once and for all." That kind of fix, not anything nefarious (would even Trump boldly say he was going to fix the election?)

https://www.christianpost.com/news/over-32m-christian-churchgoers-likely-wont-vote-in-2024-study.html

Alba, Saturday, 10 May 2025 16:34 (one month ago)

Well from the ground in a red state I can say that absolutely zero of our local and state Republicans are acting like there won’t be elections in ‘26 or ‘28. If it’s part of the party plan, no one’s told them.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra)

tbf my own rep filed a resolution to allow trump to run for a third term immediately after trump took office

c u (crüt), Saturday, 10 May 2025 16:51 (one month ago)

Resolutions don't even have the force of law. Repeal of the 22nd amendment is what's required. Or the complete abandonment of the constitution.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 10 May 2025 17:03 (one month ago)

just want to post this great ras baraka poem that i first heard at the beginning of a theo parrish mix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U-NJf6xqiM

brimstead, Saturday, 10 May 2025 17:54 (one month ago)

I'm just reading about internal Dem Party arguments regarding how to campaign for the Senate in 2026.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/into-the-wilds-of-democratic-navel-gazing-and-big-think

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/06/us/politics/2026-senate-map-democrats-schumer.html?unlocked_article_code=1.F08.3eRH.Gkc-PQt7hETc&smid=url-share

curmudgeon, Saturday, 10 May 2025 17:56 (one month ago)

Be the more pro-Israel party, appeal to voters’ desire for old Reasonable Republicans

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Saturday, 10 May 2025 17:59 (one month ago)

this Foreign Affairs article from earlier this year is still a good guide for what that would (and would not) look like in the U.S.: https://archive.ph/DsTcE

thanks, jaymc! That article is otmfm and should be required reading. I C&P'd it so I can distribute it to others, as needed, in case it gets taken down.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 10 May 2025 18:06 (one month ago)

I don't see any reason why safe red districts would halt elections, but we're already seeing red states halt things in blue districts. Down in TX, we have an open congressional seat in Houston that will be unfilled for 8 months because Gov. Abbott is delaying the election. That's very consequential when Congress is so closely divided.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Saturday, 10 May 2025 18:37 (one month ago)

There will 100% be fuckery around the elections, as there already is. Red states in particular will continue their ongoing efforts to limit access to voting for certain demographics. But that is basically an ongoing battle. It’s not the cancellation of democracy, it is trying to manipulate its results as much as possible. Which is hardly a new phenomenon in American politics.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 10 May 2025 19:07 (one month ago)

I think these jackasses (a US rep in this case) are finally getting into "boy who cried wolf" territory

Max Berger‬
✧@maxber✧✧✧.b✧✧✧.soc✧✧✧‬
· 13m
Republican member of Congress accuses Democrats who inspected an ICE facility of “insurrection” that’s “worse than 9/11.”

These people are fucking insane.

sleeve, Saturday, 10 May 2025 19:12 (one month ago)

I feel like this stuff is less about making believable accusations, and more about getting themselves off the hook with this idea that everyone is doing insurrections. Maybe they are the boy who cried wolf, but then aren't democrats the same?

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Saturday, 10 May 2025 19:40 (one month ago)

good point

sleeve, Saturday, 10 May 2025 19:45 (one month ago)

False equivalence is the lifeblood of reactionaries.

guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 10 May 2025 19:58 (one month ago)

Whataboutism is the default rhetorical maneuver of every conservative I ever argue with. It’s like the only move they know. And the equivalencies are always ridiculous but that’s not the point obviously, the point is to change the subject.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 10 May 2025 20:21 (one month ago)

I have noticed a new move from chuds which is ‘I could explain it to you but you wouldn’t understand’ but there is no explanation forthcoming, ever.

guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 10 May 2025 20:25 (one month ago)

wonder if that's their inversion of "no I will not debate you"

sleeve, Saturday, 10 May 2025 20:26 (one month ago)

If they say that, debate is worthless, but since they never actually stop trying to have the last word…

guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 10 May 2025 20:33 (one month ago)

“I’m not going to do the emotional labor of explaining to you why we need to suspend habeus corpus.”

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Saturday, 10 May 2025 21:26 (one month ago)

If you got the real news instead of what the liberal FAKE lamestream media tells you, you could see that we are under invasion.

An invasion deliberately cause by Biden opening the borders and bringing in millions of undocumented immigrants who will rape and eat your pets while they live luxuriously on SNAP and get free government government healthcare. Of course Biden/Harris was just letting them in totally create more anchor babies, Democratic voters who will take our jerbs and bleed us dry.

zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 10 May 2025 22:07 (one month ago)

Basically conservatives love to use our phrases and vernacular not just for cutesy irony reasons but also because they know we're smarter than them

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 May 2025 22:40 (one month ago)

Suzy otm

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 May 2025 23:46 (one month ago)

(would even Trump boldly say he was going to fix the election?)

Yes

treeship 2, Sunday, 11 May 2025 00:08 (one month ago)

He's often tried to override, rewrite, or ignore the constitution, including his hallucination that Pence could simply decide to invalidate the 2020 electoral votes, or that he can erase birthright citizenship by signing a piece of paper that says he can.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 11 May 2025 00:19 (one month ago)

I blame Norman Vincent Peale and the Power of Positive Thinking

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 11 May 2025 03:34 (one month ago)

I keep making the mistake of breaking my "stay away from any discussion about politics or religion" rule and I'm sorry. Trying again from now on.

StanM, Sunday, 11 May 2025 03:36 (one month ago)

Trump accepting a free jet from Qatar, in case anyone was worried he hasn't committed an impeachable offense this weekend yet

frogbs, Sunday, 11 May 2025 16:14 (one month ago)

Where’s Hunter???????

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 11 May 2025 16:31 (one month ago)

jfc these reports of ICE raids get worse and worse. And this was in Massachusetts, with the local cops helping and assaulting and arresting people who tried to intervene. I feel like this is the vector of where the street violence is going to come from. More and more people will be rightly upset about this police state shit, which will make the police state shit worse.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/05/ice-arrest-deportation-police-worcester-massachusetts/

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 12 May 2025 00:01 (one month ago)

That is certainly their objective. Also just using shock and awe tactics to appease the sadism of their base.

treeship 2, Monday, 12 May 2025 00:14 (one month ago)

The only positive thing to take from this is that the courts have been clamping down, so the only move left is to get even more brazen. Of course, if congress manages to pass a massive budget increase for ICE, things will get even uglier.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Monday, 12 May 2025 00:14 (one month ago)

Bad stuff still happening to federal employees that gets little attention:

At the Environmental Protection Agency, research at 11 laboratories has ground to a halt because the Trump administration has not approved most new lab purchases.
At the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, key work on weather forecasting has slowed to a crawl because Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick must sign off personally on many contracts and grants. And at the Social Security Administration, some employees are running out of paper, pens and printer toner because the U.S. DOGE Service has placed a $1 spending limit on government-issued credit cards. (DOGE stands for Department of Government Efficiency, though it is not a Cabinet-level agency.
- from Washington Post

curmudgeon, Monday, 12 May 2025 13:41 (one month ago)

And this happened late Sunday night-

House Republicans released a plan late on Sunday that would cause millions of poor Americans to lose Medicaid health coverage and millions more to pay higher fees when they go to the doctor, but that stopped short of an overhaul that would make the deepest cuts to the program.

The proposal, which is one piece of a sweeping bill to enact President Trump’s domestic agenda, including large tax cuts and increased military spending, omits the structural changes to Medicaid that ultraconservative Republicans have demanded. Instead, it bows to the wishes of a group of more moderate and politically vulnerable G.O.P. lawmakers whose seats could be at risk if they embraced deep Medicaid cuts.

From NY Times

curmudgeon, Monday, 12 May 2025 13:51 (one month ago)

Well, geez, why didn't anyone else think of just asking big pharma to voluntarily lower their prices?

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 May 2025 15:42 (one month ago)

all of his e.o.'s have the air of michael scott yelling "i declare bankrupcty!!!" but this one even more than most

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 May 2025 15:43 (one month ago)

yes, exactly

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 May 2025 15:44 (one month ago)

Is that guy Trump illegally chucked out of the country still in prison in El Salvador? Anyone still talking about that?

Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Monday, 12 May 2025 15:47 (one month ago)

Yes he is and many more are also. Big Pharma EO is just a distraction

curmudgeon, Monday, 12 May 2025 15:48 (one month ago)

would cause millions of poor Americans to lose Medicaid health coverage and millions more to pay higher fees when they go to the doctor, but that stopped short of an overhaul that would make the deepest cuts to the program.

Leave it to the NYT to point out that Republicans in Congress showed the mercy to stop short of some unnamed and unspecified horror we are supposed to conjure up from our worst fears as a way of making it sound not so bad.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 12 May 2025 15:49 (one month ago)

Well so much for bringing manufacturing back lol.

Just nonstop Calvinball. You keep the actual goals muddy and just declare victory whenever you feel like it.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 12 May 2025 16:32 (one month ago)

Is that guy Trump illegally chucked out of the country still in prison in El Salvador? Anyone still talking about that?

yes. it's blatantly unconstitutional and wrong and everyone except stephen miller knows it (actually he knows it) but we will have to wait weeks, months....?....until that is confirmed by a court

z_tbd, Monday, 12 May 2025 16:34 (one month ago)

xp When they see 'Wall Street rallies after blah blah', they see it as a 'victory' for their groundbreaking 'deal'

But Wall Street was already rallying before the inauguration

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 12 May 2025 16:43 (one month ago)

Josh Hawley, salt-of-the-earth champion of the working class


Josh Hawley, the influential US senator from Missouri, has warned that his Republican party is suffering from an “identity crisis” over whether it stands for working Americans or rich corporate executives, signaling a worsening split among Donald Trump’s congressional troops over the president’s plans for deep Medicaid cuts.

In an opinion piece in the New York Times published on Monday, Hawley warned his fellow Republicans it would be “politically suicidal” to concede to huge cuts in the federal program that provides health insurance to more than 70 million low-income Americans. He derided what he called the “Wall Street wing” of his own party that he said favoured corporate giveaways at the price of “slashing health insurance for the working poor”.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 12 May 2025 18:27 (one month ago)

Josh Hawley, salt-of-the-earth champion of the working class

_
In an opinion piece in the New York Times published on Monday, Hawley warned his fellow Republicans it would be “politically suicidal” to concede to huge cuts in the federal program that provides health insurance to more than 70 million low-income Americans. _


I encourage Hawley to go all the way and make it irl real physical suicide to concede to this

z_tbd, Monday, 12 May 2025 18:37 (one month ago)

why would he endanger his career by suggesting they may not stand 100% for rich corporate executives? seems like a risky move

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Monday, 12 May 2025 18:38 (one month ago)

is this another case of "we've got the votes so we'll take turns voicing opposition so no one can say it passed long party lines"?

henry s, Monday, 12 May 2025 18:41 (one month ago)

this might be the answer

29.7% of Missouri residents had incomes below 200% of the Federal Poverty Level (FPL) in 2023, which was larger than the U.S. share (28.2%).

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 12 May 2025 18:47 (one month ago)

Could be those reasons, and could be that Hawley wants to run for President some day.

curmudgeon, Monday, 12 May 2025 18:51 (one month ago)

and there's this

His claims in his opinion piece to be a champion of working Americans should carry caveats. He has opposed raising the minimum wage in Missouri and has enthusiastically backed efforts to undermine public-sector trade unions.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 12 May 2025 18:52 (one month ago)

all these guys know that they have to pander to the low income voters whom they depend on to get elected, they just vary in how they triangulate that pandering, how near to the surface its obvious disingenuousness is. and honestly as they keep eroding voting rights and democracy it's amazing that we still see it happen, feel like it's not long for this world

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 12 May 2025 18:57 (one month ago)

well medicare/social security are not called the third-rails for nothing, and because these negotiations are currently happening in the House, he can safely avoid the issue for now. Though I wonder who the op-ed was written for - can't imagine a lot of low-income Missouri voters are NYT subscribers

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 12 May 2025 19:25 (one month ago)

You keep the actual goals muddy and just declare victory whenever you feel like it.

Jeez bro it says it right on the hat. Make America Great Again. What do you have against greatness, tipsy?

zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 12 May 2025 19:43 (one month ago)

prediction: the Afrikaners will be moved to a new city in TX called 'Starbase,' to work as menial labor

pawns in a dog whistle game

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 12 May 2025 20:03 (one month ago)

xp it's like he promised, I'm tired of winning

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 12 May 2025 20:10 (one month ago)

I've never listened to or watched Hasan Piker and don't have any feelings about him, but his account of being questioned at the border is pretty interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVTcRCrMMKo

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 12 May 2025 21:35 (one month ago)

i got to the point where he said "this is the worst cold brew of my life" and he still hadn't gotten on the plane so i had to tap out

budo jeru, Monday, 12 May 2025 21:46 (one month ago)

lol the customs officer engagement starts around 5:30.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 12 May 2025 22:01 (one month ago)

ah yes... blind people can sell pencils on the corner, just not too many, maybe like five

For years, California’s Cash Assistance Program for Immigrants (CAPI) has provided monthly cash assistance to elderly, blind and disabled immigrants with legal status, a much-needed lifeline for vulnerable permanent residents, refugees, people granted asylum and others. Yet, in announcing its investigation Monday into the program, DHS accused the program of “providing federal benefits” to undocumented immigrants, echoing unproven claims circulating among the US’s political rightwing.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 12 May 2025 23:29 (one month ago)

Kinda offstream but: Dear Democratic motherfuckers, we demand 3-5 wealth tax proposals in the well and introduced into the actual processes and also all of the uh “discourses” asap. They should each be workable according to the rules by which they are developed. In addition we demand a multiple media attack in which the proponents state simply “we plan to take the people’s money back. If billionaires think it is the

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 00:02 (one month ago)

their money they are mistaken but fine. We and the people intend to take their money.”

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 00:03 (one month ago)

yeah but the 'job creators'

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 00:03 (one month ago)

the loophole where ritchie riches can take out massive loans (not income, therefore no income tax) and then deduct the interest on the loan payments,thus further lowering their tax burden, is fucking bonkers and infuriating to me

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 00:07 (one month ago)

aaaand another week, another utterly impeachable offense, with naked corruption on full display:
On Monday, the top 220 buyers of a Donald Trump-sponsored cryptocurrency won access to an exclusive dinner with the president as a reward for pouring money into the coin. It was the culmination of Trump’s weekslong promotion of the contest, which has drawn allegations that he is using his position to enrich his family business while opening himself up to foreign influence..

B-b-but what about Hunter??

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 00:10 (one month ago)

Im here and telling you what to do.

Promise the people to end it. Get elected and do it.

I don’t care if you have to come down in a goddamn golden elevator. Promise some needed radical shit, have some evidence of how it will work, then turn inquiry to simple statements of how important it is, and implied promises for it’s perfect success and the glory for regular americans. A national jubilee and state of improvement.

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 00:14 (one month ago)

End it was re loan interest dedux

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 00:15 (one month ago)

“its”

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 00:16 (one month ago)

https://i.imgur.com/DC7OGyw.png

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 03:31 (one month ago)

I guess the online mockery got to them, they updated the hed.

https://i.imgur.com/OU0JZkb.jpeg

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 15:40 (one month ago)

"concerns"

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 15:41 (one month ago)

Yeah even when they use the word corruption it's in this kind of "some people are suggesting" way.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 15:43 (one month ago)

Many people are saying

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 15:50 (one month ago)

Qatari Jet Highlights Corruption Concerns in of Trump's 2nd Term

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 16:00 (one month ago)

Questions are being asked

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 16:27 (one month ago)

that 'free' jet is anything but, they're gonna have to tear it to pieces looking for bugs

(isn't there a greek myth about a giant wooden horse kinda like this?)

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 16:38 (one month ago)

I’m curious whether he sees the jet as just another tool for pissing off libs with the blatant corruption, or if he literally cannot say no to a gold-plated airplane being dangled in front of him.

With the Afrikaners, it seems clear he’s just trying to own the libs. He doesn’t give a shit about those people, he just knows the blatant racism will drive non-MAGAs crazy. Not so sure about the plane thing.

tobo73, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 16:43 (one month ago)

He's hoping the South Africans traffic in some qualuudes for him.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 16:48 (one month ago)

I’m curious whether he sees the jet as just another tool for pissing off libs with the blatant corruption

I'm sure that gives him joy, but now all the MAGA people are calling out as well:

Ben Shapiro, the prominent rightwing commentator, led the charge on his daily podcast. “President Trump promised to drain the swamp – this is not, in fact, draining the swamp,” he said... he added: “Taking sacks of goodies from people who support Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Jazeera, all the rest, that’s not America First … If you want President Trump to succeed, this kind of skeezy stuff would be stopped.”

Laura Loomer, the far-right Maga activist, warned that the proposed gift would put “such a stain on the administration”. Loomer said she loved Trump and would “take a bullet for him. But I have to call a spade a spade. We cannot accept a $400m ‘gift’ from jihadists in suits.

He wants that plane SO BAD, this really puts him in a pickle

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 17:15 (one month ago)

He wants the plane so bad he’s going to break up with Loomer

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 17:35 (one month ago)

wait, there are quaaludes in south africa?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 17:36 (one month ago)

That might be a myth I just read that it was the only country where they were still produced a long time ago.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 17:39 (one month ago)

The administration really wants you to focus on the narrative that the contract for new Boeing planes - going through normal channels - is years off schedule and billions over budget (which is not untrue) and this is a smart way they can get a new plane for free. Two MAGA storylines. overnment is bad because it's inefficient, plus Art of the deal baby.

Now. One can argue that the old planes presidents use now are outdated and the new model overdue.

But this would conflict with another maga storyline, that of the New Trump Frugality, post-doge post-trade war "just make do with two dolls and five pencils" line.

Optics are "I get the shiny new thing; you shlubs should just be happy back in coach." Which is a very on-brand mode of hypocrisy. The plane is a symbol.

(I know a guy who did QC for Air Force One; he had the supersecret Yankee White clearance, the tippitoppermost clearance. Security on those mofos is tight. But yeah, as others have noted, sure, accept a used plane from a foreign monarch, I'm sure it's clean.)

zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 17:41 (one month ago)

The thing is the Qataris can tell him don't worry about it, we'll give it to you in 2029, they still get the benefit of the bribe.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 17:41 (one month ago)

^^^^ Love how Shapiro conflates Al Jazeera with Hamas ^^^^^

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 17:44 (one month ago)

Laura Loomer, please do take a bullet for Trump. And while you’re at it share one w him ok pls?

tobo73, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 17:58 (one month ago)

rare Schumer spine-sighting

“In light of the deeply troubling news of a possible Qatari-funded Air Force One, and the reports that the attorney general personally signed off on this clearly unethical deal, I am announcing a hold on all DOJ political nominees, until we get more answers,” Schumer said in a Senate floor speech.

Schumer called the proposed arrangement “not just naked corruption”, likening it to something so corrupt “that even Putin would give a double take”.

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 19:08 (one month ago)

With the Afrikaners, it seems clear he’s just trying to own the libs. He doesn’t give a shit about those people, he just knows the blatant racism will drive non-MAGAs crazy. Not so sure about the plane thing.

― tobo73,

I was joking with my sister, who lives in SA, about how much they’re gonna hate it here

Heez, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 22:26 (one month ago)

I know Musk was connected to the SA thing, but it also seems sort of emblematic of Trump's world view. He is still totally shaped by the '70s and '80s, and white South Africans I'm sure he very much sympathized with during the '80s when it was a really prominent political and cultural issue. He's probably viewed them as unjustly treated all these years. His Pete Rose advocacy is another example, both in terms of the era and his sense that a white man had been wronged.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 22:32 (one month ago)

I heard some guy from a church refugee resettlement agency (who have tacitly agreed to help the Afrikaners) and his main point was that this shows just how quickly they can safely vet and fly over 'refugees' when they want to... so why the hold-up on all the others? (Yes, we know.. because they're black & brown)

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 22:54 (one month ago)

the whole 'white genocide' is a far-right conspiracy thing based on what happened in Zimbabwe years ago, not what's happening in SA right now

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 22:58 (one month ago)

White Zimbabweans and South Africans probably deserve it, tbf

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 23:09 (one month ago)

to this day, 70% of land in SA is still owned by whites

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 May 2025 23:18 (one month ago)

It’s really gross over there

Heez, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 00:56 (one month ago)

this plane thing is gonna be funny, you know how much Trump really wants it but like even for Republicans this is probably a bridge too far

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 03:10 (one month ago)

They'll come around

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 03:12 (one month ago)

They're coming for pR0n again: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/5260/text

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 03:54 (one month ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prawn?wprov=sfla1

zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 08:58 (one month ago)

I’m curious whether he sees the jet as just another tool for pissing off libs with the blatant corruption, or if he literally cannot say no to a gold-plated airplane being dangled in front of him.

i assume it's the latter. pretty sure he thinks this is just a fun perk of being president!

c u (crüt), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 12:53 (one month ago)

also he sees getting something for free as the ultimate win and a sign of strength.

jaymc, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 13:04 (one month ago)

iirc trump has a thing about how old and antiquated air force one is, same goes for the whitehouse--he sees them as being below the standards he deserves.

Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 14:19 (one month ago)

that is, this is likely about him getting a fancy new(er) plane with nine lavatories.

Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 14:21 (one month ago)

I have a pal who worked for a big defense contractor on the AF1 project during the first Trump term and he reported that it was a total cluster fuck. The White House kept making changes and additions to the design while cutting funding. Shocker. My pal got out of that company as fast as he could.

tobo73, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 14:37 (one month ago)

the loophole where ritchie riches can take out massive loans (not income, therefore no income tax) and then deduct the interest on the loan payments,thus further lowering their tax burden, is fucking bonkers and infuriating to me

It’s not really a loophole… they only get a deduction up to the amount of interest income they have … if they only have $100 of interest income, then they can only deduct $100 of loan interest… they could have their riches in the form of rental income, dividends, wages …

sarahell, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 15:21 (one month ago)

iirc trump has a thing about how old and antiquated air force one is, same goes for the whitehouse--he sees them as being below the standards he deserves.

See Also: His marriages, mistresses etc.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 15:49 (one month ago)

My wife is a health care reporter

She's been listening to RFKJr and Sanders, plus Rand Paul. It's like a vortex of cranky old guys

zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 19:37 (one month ago)

Posted this over on ILM too. Hate that we're going to see more of this:

Members of the Austin, Texas, rock band Lord Buffalo have said that they are canceling a tour of Europe because their drummer, Yamal Said, was detained by agents from United States Customs and Border Protection (CBP). The alleged incident took place on Monday, May 12, when Said “was forcibly removed from [the band’s] flight to Europe” at Dallas Fort Worth International Airport.
According to his bandmates, Yamal Said “is a Mexican citizen and lawful permanent resident of the United States (green card holder).” Last year, in an interview with VoyageAustin, the drummer said that his “family moved to Austin in the late ’80s, after a devastating earthquake hit Mexico City.”

Said “has not been released,” according to his bandmates, but he “has secured the legal representation he needs.” Pitchfork has reached out to CBP’s office of public affairs for comment and more information on the situation.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 19:45 (one month ago)

that's so weird that he was detained leaving the country rather than trying to get back in... so fucked up

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 19:48 (one month ago)

Been seeing reports that people are having their papers checked on the way out of America as well as on the way back in, mostly in Vancouver for some reason but I'm a little worried since my mom (last name Guevara) crossed the border at Niagara Falls earlier this week and I haven't heard from her since yesterday.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 20:30 (one month ago)

Hopefully you get word that she is safe soon.

Everything is getting more concerning.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 20:35 (one month ago)

It's shitty that you should ever have to worry about something that should be so unexceptional. I hope it's nothing, but the rampant abuse of power by ICE is far too real not to wonder and worry.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 20:37 (one month ago)

All I can say is: That’s fucked up

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 21:37 (one month ago)

So it turns out that wasn’t the full story and was a very disingenuous statement by the band and label, turns out the drummer had a warrant out for his arrest.

My apologies for posting before the whole story was out.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 May 2025 03:08 (one month ago)

What Austin drummer <doesn't> have a warrant out at the moment?

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 May 2025 03:25 (one month ago)

Lol facts

zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 May 2025 11:07 (one month ago)

What Warrant drummer doesn’t have an Austin out

Bangel, Bangel & Bangel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 15 May 2025 13:15 (one month ago)

An interview with David Hogg.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 15 May 2025 14:35 (one month ago)

ok, I laughed at this:

While many have speculated that the Qataris have offered Trump the luxurious plane to curry favor with the famously transactional president, there may be a simpler rationale: they just don’t want it anymore.

The royals have failed to sell the plane, which was put on the market in 2020, according to an archived listing. Giving it away could save Qatar’s rulers a big chunk of change on maintenance and storage costs, aviation experts told Forbes. Making Trump happy would be an added bonus.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremybogaisky/2025/05/14/qatar-747-trump/

silverfish, Thursday, 15 May 2025 15:45 (one month ago)

lol bribing him with a cast-off. Trump's out of his league, he's only a wannabe gangster. These guys are for real.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 15 May 2025 16:34 (one month ago)

"Give it to the idiot, he'll take it. Stick a few bugs in first though."

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 May 2025 16:40 (one month ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/theonion.com/post/3lpa3q6peqs2b

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 May 2025 19:05 (one month ago)

Since there’s no floor that just doesnt hit

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Thursday, 15 May 2025 19:38 (one month ago)

Surely if Trump finds out theyre giving him a plane they jusy dont want anymore, his corpulent ego will decide it doesn't want the damn plane anymore.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 15 May 2025 23:19 (one month ago)

learned today (along with probably everyone else on blusky) that Kat Abu is dating the Onion guy (Ben Collins)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 15 May 2025 23:44 (one month ago)

that was referenced on some other thread

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 May 2025 23:46 (one month ago)

xp some of us learned it last week!

jaymc, Thursday, 15 May 2025 23:50 (one month ago)

Who is she and why is everyone up in arms about it, I dont get it.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 16 May 2025 05:15 (one month ago)

This Janes Comey “8647” thing has got to be the single stupidest faux-outrage non-story of all-time.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 16 May 2025 12:24 (one month ago)

Who is she

lefty media personality running for Congress

why is everyone up in arms about it

because Bluesky appears to be the unholy union between Tumblr and Twitter

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Friday, 16 May 2025 12:39 (one month ago)

things must be going pretty badly if we need to shift the narrative to the paralyzing fear of left-wing ninja battalions

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 16 May 2025 13:20 (one month ago)

sorry are these people freaking out over James Comey? one of the most timid men on the planet? even for them this is pathetic

frogbs, Friday, 16 May 2025 13:28 (one month ago)

that said Comey is the one who got us into this mess

frogbs, Friday, 16 May 2025 13:32 (one month ago)

they aren't actually freaking out though, are they? they're engaging in culture wars, and yet again comey, habitual rake-stepper (to be played by Ed Helms in the inevitable movie adaptation of this chapter of hell) is providing the ammo.

conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Friday, 16 May 2025 13:33 (one month ago)

Speak for yourself my chapter of antifa takes all out orders from Comey

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 16 May 2025 13:38 (one month ago)

got my marching orders last night!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 May 2025 13:46 (one month ago)

Soros signed the check iirc

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 May 2025 13:46 (one month ago)

honestly amazing that the same crowd who tries to drop as many 1488 references as possible and then acted all aggrieved when people pointed it out is now trying to act scandalized about this

frogbs, Friday, 16 May 2025 13:56 (one month ago)

the former head of the FBI communicating to vigilante assassins via ... a public Instagram post

jaymc, Friday, 16 May 2025 14:02 (one month ago)

Who is she and why is everyone up in arms about it, I dont get it.

not sure if people are actually up in arms about it, her running was controversial to some because it was viewed as carpetbagging (she moved to the district and threatened to primary a safe Dem who was old, and said Dem then decided not to run for re-election). I guess she moved to the area because that's where Ben Collins lives.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 16 May 2025 15:34 (one month ago)

Is it true the boss has 86 46 tatooed on his fingers and is going to cecot

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Friday, 16 May 2025 15:52 (one month ago)

"cool shell formation" lmao

c u (crüt), Friday, 16 May 2025 15:56 (one month ago)

not sure if people are actually up in arms about it

there is one guy who is up in arms about the fact that they didn't disclose their relationship until a few days ago, even though a) the primary is 10 months away and other candidates are still jumping into the race, and b) the Onion is probably not going to be covering the IL-9 House race.

jaymc, Friday, 16 May 2025 16:03 (one month ago)

lol it's not like she's dating someone from Politico

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Friday, 16 May 2025 16:04 (one month ago)

polls are showing a suspicious level of support from "area men"

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Friday, 16 May 2025 16:08 (one month ago)

the big budget bill just failed in the House

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 16 May 2025 16:18 (one month ago)

it did not make it out of committee

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 16 May 2025 16:20 (one month ago)

needs more cruelty

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Friday, 16 May 2025 16:20 (one month ago)

Things went well with Noem yesterday:

Swalwell asked Noem about the infamous photo of Garcia’s tattooed knuckles that Donald Trump loves to wave around. The picture has the letters and numbers MS-13 badly photoshopped on Garcia’s fingers in what looks like Times New Roman. This is the evidence used to justify sending the man to a slave labor prison.

By the way, the line from some conservatives lately is that those letters were photoshopped into the picture to translate the symbols for us laypeople. Oh, okay, someone should tell the president that, because that’s not what he seemed to be telling Terry Moran during a recent interview. Then please break out the key you presumably have buried in a government computer showing that MS-13 members use a tattooed skull to represent the numeral 3. We’d love to see it.

Noem refused to answer the question, over and over and over again. Swalwell told her, “I have a seven-year-old, a six-year-old, and a three-year-old. I have a bullshit detector. I’m just asking you if this is doctored or not doctored.” Swalwell then got so frustrated he had his aide walk over to Noem and wave the photo in front of her face, and she refused to look at it.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 May 2025 16:21 (one month ago)

Watched this, was so infuriating. These people are so fucking thick it's like their superpower - they can deflect because they can plausibly play like they don't possess the brainpower to understand the question.

conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Friday, 16 May 2025 16:26 (one month ago)

Sorry, not the point, but the "M S 1 3" added the image is clearly NOT Times New Roman since it's sans serif.

jaymc, Friday, 16 May 2025 16:31 (one month ago)

Bembo or gtfo

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Friday, 16 May 2025 16:31 (one month ago)

That doesn't look like anything to me.

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Friday, 16 May 2025 16:33 (one month ago)

Reminds me of the VP debate when Vance could not answer the question about the 2020 election

frogbs, Friday, 16 May 2025 16:33 (one month ago)

too busy watching the Oscar attention on Hillbilly Elegy iirc

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 May 2025 16:38 (one month ago)

https://www.weareequis.us/research/may-2025-poll-on-latinos-trump-and-immigration

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 May 2025 17:07 (one month ago)

'highly overrated' & 'pushy' lol

Springsteen made a series of vehement speeches on stage in Manchester as he kicked off his latest tour, arguing that Trump was “an unfit president” heading up “a rogue government”. He said that in the US, “the richest men are taking satisfaction in abandoning the world’s poorest children to sickness and death … they’re taking sadistic pleasure in the pain they inflict on loyal American workers … They are abandoning our great allies and siding with dictators against those struggling for their freedom.”

Trump responded on his Truth Social platform, calling Springsteen “highly overrated… not a talented guy – just a pushy, obnoxious JERK”.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 May 2025 17:15 (one month ago)

Someone should just ask schmuck a l’orange if he feels underrated and watch, he won’t shut up for hours with how underrated he is!

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 16 May 2025 17:20 (one month ago)

Springsteen is kind of pushy, always telling people to raise their hands, climb on back, prove it all night, etc.

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Friday, 16 May 2025 17:23 (one month ago)

…deliver me from nowhere. Wth does that even mean anyway? Sad!!

tobo73, Friday, 16 May 2025 17:31 (one month ago)

The one time I saw him he asked us if we wanted one more song and we all screamed "whoooo!" and he said he couldn't hear us and made us yell it again, when it was VERY CLEAR that we were plenty loud enough the FIRST time.

henry s, Friday, 16 May 2025 17:33 (one month ago)

he's always asking little girls if their daddy's home, what kind of creep asks that sort of thing

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 May 2025 17:36 (one month ago)

RACING in THESE streets?fuel costs being what they are honestly its just downright irresponsible

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 May 2025 17:48 (one month ago)

Just getting around to this 86 46 kerfuffle. Up until this stupid internet outrage was shat out by some idiot, the slang phrase "to 86 someone" never meant to kill them. It just meant to deny them future entry to the bar, pub, or tavern as a notoriously troublesome drunk. Bouncers aren't in the habit of assassinating bar patrons.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 May 2025 18:52 (one month ago)

yes I've never heard "86" used in a fatal fashion

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 May 2025 18:54 (one month ago)

I mean, Trump's post about Springsteen scans as a much more direct threat than Comey's dumb thing.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 May 2025 18:55 (one month ago)

86 is absolutely used as slang for termination, really not necessary to play dumb to thwart the right's dumbass obsessions.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:10 (one month ago)

I've only ever heard it used in two contexts - throwing something away, or in a restaurant context, that the place was out of a particular item.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:13 (one month ago)

+ Get Smart reruns

Doctor Casino, Friday, 16 May 2025 19:14 (one month ago)

'86', as explained in Wikipedia:

Eighty-six or 86 is American English slang used in the hospitality industry and in the military and intelligence communities.

In the hospitality industry, it is used to indicate that an item is no longer available, traditionally from a food or drinks establishment, or referring to a person or people who are not welcome on the premises. Its etymology is unknown, but the term seems to have been coined in the 1920s or 1930s.

Military personnel might use "86" to refer to scrapping equipment (e.g., "That old radio got 86'd") or ending a plan or mission (e.g., "The op was 86'd due to bad weather"). It's not an official term in military doctrine or manuals, but it's part of the informal jargon and culture of soldiers, sailors, and airmen due to its common and frequent use, and is a concept military members are assumed to understand, although it originates in broader civilian language.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:15 (one month ago)

soda jerk jargon

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:16 (one month ago)

86 is absolutely used as slang for termination

I have absolutely never heard it used this way ever

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:16 (one month ago)

we're all playing dumb I guess

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:17 (one month ago)

Conservatives don't know what it means because they've never worked in restaurants.

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:18 (one month ago)

Yet so much of their support is in diners.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:24 (one month ago)

Never forget:

I’m so sorry to be late to the party on the martini-Bork nexus (I slept late here in Hawaii where it’s five hours earlier). First, let me add that I think the Judge–as I’ve called him since I was a policy gnome at AEI–is one of the most impressive and honorable men I’ve ever met. And he’s also the only person I have ever met who can give one-word answers to very complex questions while sounding like he’s covered all the angles. “No, he explained,” works for the Judge.

Anyway, as fate would have it, the Goldbergs have recently switched (perhaps temporarily) to gibsons as our preferred cocktail. For me, this is a nostalgic turn, as my father drank gibsons when I was a kid. I have many memories of my dad telling waiters, “it’s a gibson, not a gimlet” after receiving some lime flavored swill. Charles Dana Gibson is credited with creating the drink, by the way. And it is merely a martini that uses cocktail onions as a garnish.

As for the vodka martini, I am with the Judge on this: There’s no such thing. Technically, the vodka and vermouth drink is a kangaroo. I can live with people saying “vodka martini” but I can’t stand it when waiters ask, “do you want that martini [or gibson] with gin or vodka.” That’s like asking, “Do you want that milkshake with ice cream or tofu?

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:27 (one month ago)

lol the 86 Wikipedia goes on to explain its slang use re:killing someone.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:28 (one month ago)

Added by Laura Loomer three hours ago

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 May 2025 19:31 (one month ago)

you can also write SNUFF in seashells, he could've been a little less coy

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 May 2025 19:32 (one month ago)

According to Cassell's Dictionary of Slang, "to 86" also means "to kill, to murder; to execute judicially," likely referring to the size of a standard grave being 2.5 feet wide by 8 feet long and 6 feet deep.9

suuuuure

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:36 (one month ago)

yes, when serial killers get together and chat about their murders, they favor "86" as a way of expressing what happened to their victims.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:36 (one month ago)

If 86 meant "to kill" it would appear in a lot more rap songs.

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:38 (one month ago)

you can also write SNUFF in seashells, he could've been a little less coy

Yes, “Republican James Comey announces his plan to assassinate Donald Trump on Instagram via seashell” is why it’s really unnecessary to start with “it is completely unimaginable that this slang term about eliminating menu items could also be used to suggest eliminating people.”

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:43 (one month ago)

if people use this term in this way it is not at all widespread.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:46 (one month ago)

86 the Boers

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:47 (one month ago)

it's not unimaginable because someone did imagine it. it's just an instance of applied stupidity in this case.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:49 (one month ago)

I feel like I've heard it used in noir films (or parodies of same) but that may be the mandela effect. In any case I have understood "86" to mean killing a person and throwing someone out of a bar for much of my adult life.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:50 (one month ago)

huh i’m pretty sheltered and i know it well. i did wait tables i and know what 86 “means,” but i always thought the murder sense was a sort of “slang from slang, and which is intuitive but also everyone knows if the context is there.”

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:52 (one month ago)

"Put 47 on ice"

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 May 2025 19:58 (one month ago)

cant we focus on the real villain here bruce springsteen?

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Friday, 16 May 2025 20:01 (one month ago)

If Bruce keeps doing four hour shows he's going to kill a few boomers who shouldn't drive home after being up so late.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Friday, 16 May 2025 20:06 (one month ago)

Alex from NYC of this parish helpfully explained on FB that a West Village bar called Chumley’s where he used to drink (also an early speakeasy) ejected drunk/unwanted customers from its 86 Bedford Street door. People entered the establishment around the corner on Barrow Street. The term “86” comes from the door and every restaurant or bar my hospitality industry family members/close friends have ever worked at had an 86 List with names, descriptions and sometimes photos of banished former patrons.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 16 May 2025 20:15 (one month ago)

he's already moved on from The Boss:

President Trump is indicating there’s bad blood between him and Taylor Swift once again, reigniting his feud with the music star and claiming credit for what he describes as a drop in her popularity.

“Has anyone noticed that, since I said ‘I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT,’ she’s no longer ‘HOT?'” Trump wrote Friday on Truth Social.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 May 2025 20:17 (one month ago)

yeah, whatever happened to Taylor?

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Friday, 16 May 2025 20:20 (one month ago)

Aw R.I.P. Chumley’s. (Speaking of being 86’d.)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 16 May 2025 20:20 (one month ago)

DJT is bridge-and-tunnel in human form so West Village lore is rather beyond him.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 16 May 2025 20:27 (one month ago)

So I guess what we're saying is that DJT should be thrown thru a pair of saloon doors like that grizzled gunslinger on the Pure Prairie League album cover?

henry s, Friday, 16 May 2025 20:30 (one month ago)

who among us can't forget the song of the summer of 92:

"86 on an undercover cop"

imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Friday, 16 May 2025 20:33 (one month ago)

was that not 187 on an undercover cop, actually?

henry s, Friday, 16 May 2025 20:41 (one month ago)

that's the joke

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 May 2025 20:43 (one month ago)

a West Village bar called Chumley’s where he used to drink (also an early speakeasy) ejected drunk/unwanted customers from its 86 Bedford Street door. People entered the establishment around the corner on Barrow Street. The term “86” comes from the door

This is a theory, but I wouldn't accept it as fact any more than the idea that you coined the word "gaydar."

Ben Zimmer notes:

The first known appearance in print, discovered by word sleuth Barry Popik, is in “On Broadway,” the widely syndicated column by New York’s premier gossip-monger Walter Winchell. In the column that appeared on May 24, 1933 (as published in the Akron Beacon Journal), Winchell wrote:

A Hollywood soda-jerker forwards this glossary of soda-fountain lingo out there … “Shoot one” and “Draw one” is one coke and one coffee … “Shoot one in the red!” means a cherry coke … An “echo” is a repeat order … “Eighty-six” means all out of it.

Winchell went on to give more examples of the numerical code used by servers at soda fountains, including eighty-one meaning “a glass of water,” and thirteen meaning “one of the big bosses is drifting around.”

After mentioning a few other proposed etymologies (including the 86 Bedford St. theory), Zimmer concludes:

Many other fanciful etymologies have been suggested over the years to explain the mysterious number, but all of the speculation masks the likeliest origin, that it is simply a vestige of the arbitrary codes shouted out by soda clerks.

jaymc, Friday, 16 May 2025 20:59 (one month ago)

(Those quotes are from a 2018 Atlantic article: https://archive.ph/gk5Dg)

jaymc, Friday, 16 May 2025 20:59 (one month ago)

Most etymology explanations that don’t look through “first mentions” in newspapers are sus, as the kids say.

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 16 May 2025 21:11 (one month ago)

i trust jaymc

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 May 2025 21:24 (one month ago)

he has the spreadsheet, after all

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 16 May 2025 21:57 (one month ago)

here it is, explained

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/16/8647-meaning-james-comey-instagram-trump

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 May 2025 22:19 (one month ago)

jaymc, honour the fire of the person who I credited for putting the Chumley’s story forward - if there’s a storied downtown location I expect Alex to be all over its history like ILX’s answer to EV Grieve. I was only the messenger.

As to gaydar, I came up with it as a teenager having never heard it before! Normal wordplay, at least for me. But I had lots of gay guys in my friendship group at a very LGBTQI-friendly college and they’d never heard it either. I only wish I’d written it down in something that got published back then.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 16 May 2025 22:41 (one month ago)

I firmly take ownership of the first "whatev" as a contraction of whatever... this would have been circa 2000

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 May 2025 22:45 (one month ago)

I believe suzy when she says she coined 'gaydar' independently of any other source. Creativity with words is happening continuously everywhere. It's fun.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 May 2025 23:04 (one month ago)

I ordered a set of gaydar about 23 years ago; still on back order.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 May 2025 23:35 (one month ago)

Late to the party here, but are they intentionally conflating 86 with “deep six”?

epistantophus, Friday, 16 May 2025 23:36 (one month ago)

‘86 is the year Reign in Blood was released. That’s probably the meaning.

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Friday, 16 May 2025 23:53 (one month ago)

I am sure in some crime show I have seen, a mob boss or drug kingpin has used 86 to mean “kill” … 187 is a reference to the California penal code …

sarahell, Saturday, 17 May 2025 01:13 (one month ago)

Milo otm

sarahell, Saturday, 17 May 2025 01:13 (one month ago)

I came up with the word "dada" as a very young infant. Sadly I didn't write it down either.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 17 May 2025 06:57 (one month ago)

A DC federal appeals court in a 2-1 decision with Bush and Trump appointed judges in majority on Friday lifted a block on an executive order from President Donald Trump that seeks to strip union rights from federal workers at dozens of agencies and offices. In its order canceling the injunction, the appeals court’s 2-1 majority said the union had not proved it would suffer “irreparable harm” if the executive order was executed while the lawsuit challenging it was ongoing.Trump in March issued an executive order that said that parts of the United States Code that protect federal workers’ rights to organize and collectively bargain would no longer apply to agencies including most or all of the Departments of Treasury, Defense, Veterans Affairs, State and Justice. The executive order covers about two-thirds of the federal workforce, according to the National Treasury Employees Union (NTEU), which filed a lawsuit challenging it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/05/17/trump-executive-order-unions-block-lifted/

curmudgeon, Saturday, 17 May 2025 12:31 (one month ago)

Gift link below. This article was posted Friday afternoon warning that the National Weather Service office serving the part of Kentucky that was in danger of being hit by tornadoes had had staffing cuts, and no longer had overnight staffing. The tornadoes hit the area about seven or eight hours after this article went up. At least 14 people in Kentucky are dead. Hard to know if better staffing would have saved any of those lives, but of course, the whole reason that the NWS staffs offices 24 hours a day is exactly for public safety.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/17/weather/storms-tornadoes-missouri-kentucky.html?unlocked_article_code=1.H08.8kzV.WsFdIngPb4C_&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 17 May 2025 17:19 (one month ago)

Oops, meant to post this link:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/16/weather/nws-cuts-kentucky-tornado.html?unlocked_article_code=1.H08.QLda.QG8CXzRM9EWB&smid=url-share

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 17 May 2025 17:27 (one month ago)

How would an executive order crushing unions not cause them “irreparable harm” while the order is being litigated?

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 17 May 2025 17:48 (one month ago)

“We won’t stay your execution while the appeals work their tedious way through the courts”.

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 17 May 2025 17:49 (one month ago)

On so many of these court cases , right wing judges are finding no “irreparable harm” to temporary allow Trump orders to take effect is so absurd. I think Justice Roberts used this logic to allow Wilcox , a Black Dem woman lawyer member of the NLRB Board to be temporarily fired , finding that she can ultimately get her job back when the underlying litigation is done. But her job is term limited so he’s taking away her time on the board that she can’t get back even if she ultimately wins the case.

Allowing union rules to be voided for 2/3 of the agencies and contending that won’t cause orchard as noted above is ridiculous

curmudgeon, Saturday, 17 May 2025 19:24 (one month ago)

Which is so absurd

curmudgeon, Saturday, 17 May 2025 19:26 (one month ago)

Irreparable harm .

Ugh my typing

curmudgeon, Saturday, 17 May 2025 19:28 (one month ago)

So reparable harm is a-OK, then?

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 17 May 2025 19:46 (one month ago)

Apparently.

Meanwhile Trump is posting angrily on Truth Social that Walmart should EAT THE TARiFFS rather than raise prices due to the tariffs as they announced they might do

curmudgeon, Saturday, 17 May 2025 20:31 (one month ago)

That's kinda funny when you think about it. Now all those Fortune 500 CEOs are having to deal with the petulant child they helped to elect as president.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 17 May 2025 21:05 (one month ago)

Some of them voted for Harris …

sarahell, Sunday, 18 May 2025 18:59 (one month ago)

The China trade war, looming economic apocalypse and eventual back down did a great job of distracting people from the inflation universal 10%+ tariffs will cause - if it was anyone but Trump and the political Keystone Kops you'd have to wonder if that was intentional.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Sunday, 18 May 2025 19:02 (one month ago)

Some of them voted for Harris …

While many of them contributed sums to both.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 18 May 2025 19:20 (one month ago)

xp

There's still a lot of financial pain incoming. People will notice.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Sunday, 18 May 2025 19:59 (one month ago)

Joe Biden has prostate cancer :(

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/18/politics/joe-biden-prostate-cancer

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 18 May 2025 20:14 (one month ago)

Eek.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 May 2025 20:15 (one month ago)

:)

Murgatroid, Sunday, 18 May 2025 20:48 (one month ago)

really, murgatroid?

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 18 May 2025 22:45 (one month ago)

Probably preferable to being murdered in his sleep with a Hellfire.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Sunday, 18 May 2025 22:52 (one month ago)

I no longer have to think about that man

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 18 May 2025 23:45 (one month ago)

xxp yes :)))) I hope the tens of thousands of dead Palestinians that have been murdered in the past many months haunt him till his final breath

prostate cancer is the least of what he deserves

Murgatroid, Monday, 19 May 2025 00:02 (one month ago)

I'm sorry, I think that's a ridiculous accusation. I don't know how you think he could have meaningfully intervened to save their lives. Our country does not preside over the decisions of other countries

But I'm pretty sure you don't even have a thought for how Trump supports Netanyahu and the current starvation of a whole population and is now advocating for a mass deportation of Gazans so his family can develop the strip into a luxury resort

Dan S, Monday, 19 May 2025 00:31 (one month ago)

to change the subject

By age 80 almost 2/3 of men have prostate cancer, it's very common. and for most it is not an aggressive disease. But with bone mets there is a lower 5-year survival rate.

I have a friend with recurrent prostate cancer who is on hormone treatment. He was worried that it was going to be some kind of chemical castration with corresponding side effects, but that has not been the case for him so far

Dan S, Monday, 19 May 2025 00:33 (one month ago)

there is so much Biden could have done and didn't, c'mon.

sleeve, Monday, 19 May 2025 00:39 (one month ago)

I mean, the blame really lies on the entire Democratic party, don't wanna single him out but...

sleeve, Monday, 19 May 2025 00:39 (one month ago)

I'm sorry, I think that's a ridiculous accusation. I don't know how you think he could have meaningfully intervened to save their lives. Our country does not preside over the decisions of other countries

But I'm pretty sure you don't even have a thought for how Trump supports Netanyahu and the current starvation of a whole population and is now advocating for a mass deportation of Gazans so his family can develop the strip into a luxury resort

You have a brain made of rice pudding.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Monday, 19 May 2025 00:39 (one month ago)

I voted for him and I voted for Harris but what he has allowed to happen in Gaza should be his shameful legacy and he can sincerely go get fucked.

Cow_Art, Monday, 19 May 2025 00:42 (one month ago)

fuck all of you

I want to know what he could have done that would have changed anything!

Dan S, Monday, 19 May 2025 00:44 (one month ago)

Can we just once fucking not?

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 19 May 2025 00:45 (one month ago)

Insist on a ceasefire? Stop sending money and bombs to Israel? Where the fuck have you been the last two years?

Cow_Art, Monday, 19 May 2025 00:46 (one month ago)

March 2024

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/03/joe-biden-israel-gaza-war-netanyahu-rafah-palestinians/

What Biden Would Do if He Were Serious About Ending the War in Gaza
A former Israeli peace negotiator says the president’s response has “failed to meet even the lowest of low expectations

sleeve, Monday, 19 May 2025 00:48 (one month ago)

Time and again, Israel crossed the Biden administration’s red lines without changing course in a meaningful way, according to interviews with government officials and outside experts. Each time, the U.S. yielded and continued to send Israel’s military deadly weapons of war, approving more than $17.9 billion in military assistance since late 2023, by some estimates. The State Department recently told Congress about another $8 billion proposed deal to sell Israel munitions and artillery shells.

“It’s hard to avoid the conclusion that the red lines have all just been a smokescreen,” said Stephen Walt, a professor of international affairs at Harvard Kennedy School and a preeminent authority on U.S. policy in the region. “The Biden administration decided to be all in and merely pretended that it was trying to do something about it.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/biden-blinken-state-department-israel-gaza-human-rights-horrors

jaymc, Monday, 19 May 2025 00:49 (one month ago)

what he has allowed to happen in Gaza should be his shameful legacy and he can sincerely go get fucked.

this, pretty much

sleeve, Monday, 19 May 2025 00:50 (one month ago)

Well lucky for him he apparently doesnt know shit from shinola at this point so may he be dry and comfortable

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 19 May 2025 00:54 (one month ago)

"insist on a ceasefire"

"crossed the Biden administration's red lines"

"by some estimates"

this is a recent statement from Marco Rubio:

"I have signed a declaration to use emergency authorities to expedite the delivery of approximately $4 billion in military assistance to Israel. The decision to reverse the Biden Administration’s partial arms embargo, which wrongly withheld a number of weapons and ammunition from Israel, is yet another sign that Israel has no greater ally in the White House than President Trump"

Dan S, Monday, 19 May 2025 00:55 (one month ago)

two wrongs don't make a right, dude

sleeve, Monday, 19 May 2025 00:56 (one month ago)

maybe you should actually read the Mother Jones article and stop being mad at us, Biden was good domestically but an abysmal failure w/r/t Gaza

sleeve, Monday, 19 May 2025 00:57 (one month ago)

xpost Wow, I guess we all fucked up by voting for Trump, Dan S.

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Monday, 19 May 2025 00:58 (one month ago)

Dan S, think about this: there were and are Palestinians undergoing treatment for cancer, in Gaza. If they haven’t been murdered, it’s likely that many members of their families have been. Their doctors have been killed. The hospitals that they are in have been bombed. Their medicines have been embargoed, and people have died from lack of medication.

All of these actions have taken place with the full approval and financial backing of the United States, and Biden absolutely could have done many, many things to stop it, but he didn’t, because he is a rich, racist fuck who showed nothing but full support to the genocidal apartheid state known as “Israel.”

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 19 May 2025 01:32 (one month ago)

It's awful, and I know the US government supports Israel over Palestine and that Israel has a genocidal agenda.

Dan S, Monday, 19 May 2025 01:53 (one month ago)

He’s kinda like LBJ … yes he implemented great improvements in the US but was also responsible for intolerable suffering

sarahell, Monday, 19 May 2025 06:40 (one month ago)

“this is a recent statement from Marco Rubio:”

Whoa whoa whoa are you saying US governments can make decisions that impact what happens in other countries now

the babality of evil (wins), Monday, 19 May 2025 07:24 (one month ago)

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/erwikia/images/6/60/Doug_Ross.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20220223055148

what all of Biden's doctors look like to him iirc

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 19 May 2025 08:28 (one month ago)

Our country does not preside over the decisions of other countries

I don't want to pile on but come on, 20th and 21st century history show pretty conclusively that that is not true, the US presides over them all the time!

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 19 May 2025 08:59 (one month ago)

try living in one of the lame as fuck US vassal states, like the UK for example. Before coming out with that shite!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 19 May 2025 09:05 (one month ago)

Yet time and again we have crossed all of the US admin's red lines on tipping, ketchup on pizza and mixer taps.

nashwan, Monday, 19 May 2025 15:29 (one month ago)

Xp calz - I do wonder how much my worldview is shaped by being born/raised in America vs where some of my ancestors came from … Alsace. Like, in my American mind, it would truly suck to be from one of the regions that kept getting passed back and forth between France and Germany for centuries with absurd amounts of death and destruction.

sarahell, Monday, 19 May 2025 15:43 (one month ago)

New podcast ep up with Princeton historian Kevin Kruse. Talks about the Southern Strategy and the growing myth on the right that it never happened:

https://sites.libsyn.com/576820/ep-4-a-second-southern-redemption

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 19 May 2025 15:53 (one month ago)

xps

more like pouring chlorine on filthy maggot infested chicken and calling it world class chicken, amirite. But at least the French population of Alsace didn't have to put up with such a grave degradation of food standards foisted onto them while being forced to speak German!

But yeah of course Europe is forever dealing with the scars of centuries of wars and changing boundaries and so on. And by dint of being an island this does not include the UK who can be just as smug as the US in the not being invaded for yonks levels of smugness.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 19 May 2025 15:56 (one month ago)

zero standard chicken aside, during the last Trump regime I did hear Mike Pompeo saying if the UK elected a centre-left PM who wasn't going to be completely Pentagon compliant then the democratically elected PM would be removed. He didn't really go into details of how the US could annul an election result, but he was just saying aloud what previously would be said behind closed doors imo.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 19 May 2025 16:06 (one month ago)

Who remembers Gough Whitlam

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 19 May 2025 16:57 (one month ago)

indeedy

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 19 May 2025 17:02 (one month ago)

There are major differences between Israel under Netanyahu and all other US-allied states. Netanyahu rightly feels that he is heavily insulated from any pressure that could be applied by a US president, mainly because Israel has since its inception assiduously cultivated alliances throughout the power structure of US politics. They especially target the Congress, the US military/intelligence apparatus, and lately the fundamentalist Christian right wing. Bibi knows he can exert major counter-pressure against any moves to cut off aid to Israel. He probably can claim a veto-proof majority in Congress. None of this exonerates Biden for his shameful silence on war crimes in Gaza.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 19 May 2025 17:52 (one month ago)

TIL that the terrible Katie Roiphe has an apparently equally terrible sister named Rebecca, a law professor who is here to tell us that — guess what? — Trump's assault on the legal profession is actually the fault of (what for it) left-wing academics.

Link provided only as evidence of the ongoing "centrist" assault on the left: https://www.persuasion.community/p/law-power

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 19 May 2025 18:29 (one month ago)

Meant to say wait for it, but what for it sorta works too ...

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 19 May 2025 18:30 (one month ago)

Would rather listen to Throbbing Gristle’s Persuasion

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 19 May 2025 18:30 (one month ago)

Law professors sure all suck don’t they

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 19 May 2025 18:31 (one month ago)

there's the one with the viral "never talk to cops" video

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Monday, 19 May 2025 18:34 (one month ago)

see also: so called human rights lawyers, who in large numbers suck industrial amounts of shit in recent times

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 19 May 2025 18:37 (one month ago)

We need more of this.. I keep hearing about Trump firing people, and wondering 'can he even do that'?

A federal judge on Monday blocked the Trump administration's takeover of the United States Institute of Peace, saying the president exceeded his authority when he fired the board members and moved to dismantle the organization and its operations.

In her ruling, Howell said USIP "is unique in its structure and function — neither a traditional executive branch agency nor an entirely private nonprofit corporation."

Ultimately, Howell concluded that USIP must be considered part of the federal government but that it is not part of the executive branch.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 19 May 2025 20:34 (one month ago)

a ruling that he will ignore, with no consequences

Dan S, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 00:08 (one month ago)

^sounds like something i would say

^i don’t want to add to a pile on from earlier today BUT i do think it’s absolutely absurd - and throws everything you say into doubt - to argue that biden couldn’t do anything about an ongoing genocide. here’s one thing he could have done: he could have tried not to give so much fucking cover to everyone in the democratic party to support the genocide. he could have - uselessly, even! - said something about a genocide at all, and blamed it on other people, even though he deserved the blame. nope, instead he use some of his last days of coherent thought to express his whole-hearted support of everything that israel does, no matter what, our special ally, our ’sacred bond’. he gave them carte blanche to do murder as many children as they want, and he sold them the weapons to do it. but yeah what could an american president do to influence israel, great point. bullshit

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/i-am-zionist-how-joe-bidens-lifelong-bond-with-israel-shapes-war-policy-2023-10-21/

z_tbd, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 00:16 (one month ago)

also, all the “oh be quiet!” and “can we not?!?!”, stfu, on what timeline of yours would it be acceptable to ever bring it up again, so much fucking bullshit

z_tbd, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 00:17 (one month ago)

seriously, not to re-interrogate everything, i get it. but it is absuuuuuuuurd to say things like that and it’s not crazy for people to step up to their keyboards and valiantly declare that they are still sentient beings that notice things that are completely wrong

z_tbd, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 00:19 (one month ago)

anyway, 4th post in a row instant ban but it’s no surprise to see that FEMA is NO help at all in STL after the tornado. their first scheduled action is to come visit for a damage assessment on wednesday. there are many, many blocks that entirely devastated, the effort is to try to get tarps over some of the partly remaining houses before more storms hit in…a couple hours. FEMA is nowhere. the shitty new mayor cara spencer has let everyone know that getting an emergency declared takes some time and other agencies to approve, it’s a red fascist state and st louis is not a part of the country that the trump administration wants to help.

this is a good place to donate right now, like literally tonight, if you can: https://linktr.ee/lifelineaidgroup

z_tbd, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 00:24 (one month ago)

thanks for the link!

the wholesale murder of civilians in Gaza is unconscionable and several articles have confirmed that Biden, at best, made a halfhearted attempt to procure a ceasefire. he was in the tank for israel, has been for a long time. that’s kind of his entire bit, having decided he’s an ally of something and becoming immutable on that topic. Obama managed to shift him the tiniest bit but that was always who he was

I get Dan S’s defensiveness, but this is who he was/is and if another Biden admin happened, he would have been dragging his feet into the ground

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 00:36 (one month ago)

Biden is deeply culpable, obviously. And by extension all of us in the U.S. And also by extension, we could have a fairly significant impact on the conduct and outcome of the brutality. We haven't, because the people running our government haven't wanted to, and the public hasn't made them. Has, if anything, pushed more in the other direction. You can explain that any way you want, but I don't think there's any good way.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 03:19 (one month ago)

And by extension all of us in the U.S.

Um, no. To cite a particularly clear example, if that were true then tens of thousands of Palestinian-Americans living in the US who have lost family members in the war are "deeply culpable" in the death of their loved ones. Hyperbole can be remarkably thoughtless.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 03:26 (one month ago)

Well a lot of them are trying to fight against it! They're doing what they can. If more Americans were doing the same, it could have some impact. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say "the American people" have culpability.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 03:37 (one month ago)

Meanwhile, Alina Habba is chraging LaMonica McIver, bringing our arresting-political-enemies tally to one judge, one mayor and one member of Congress. Need a governor and a senator for the full set.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 03:42 (one month ago)

charging

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 03:42 (one month ago)

Turns out they were really just confused about core constitutional concepts (Kristi Noem defines habeas corpus)

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lpmbmmjkjk2i

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 14:27 (one month ago)

More dumb or more evil, the eternal question. I guess it can be both.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 14:32 (one month ago)

Meanwhile, in Louisiana ...

Louisiana high school students might soon be able to take a conservative alternative to the ACT exam to qualify for the state’s popular college scholarship program.

https://lailluminator.com/2025/05/19/louisiana-students-might-qualify-for-tops-with-conservative-backed-act-alternative/

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 14:33 (one month ago)

Heh. Full circle. Dipshits.

The SAT, a for-profit assessment with eugenicist origins, was too good at enshrining the wrong people (wealthy northeasterners) in higher education. Consequently, the ACT (and similar psychometrics) was adopted in southern and mid-western states as a more-(politically)-conservative corollary. Now, the Louisiana TOPS assessment claims the ACT is too good at enshrining the wrong people (mind-virus; woke) in higher education. So, move the goalposts again.

the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 15:12 (one month ago)

If more Americans were doing the same, it could have some impact. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say "the American people" have culpability.

You're more qualified to judge this than I am but from a European pov what's been revelatory to me is how little what the general populace thinks seems to matter. If anything, it seems to matter more in the private sector (at least in the UK some festivals have had to get sponsors pull out due to public anger) than in moving any govt even the slightest bit on this issue. Pretty depressing!

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 15:47 (one month ago)

It definitely matters to some degree what the general public thinks. The percentage of Americans for whom Gaza was a top voting priority last year was very low. Maybe enough to hurt Biden a little in Michigan, but that's the extent of it. Israel doesn't have a ton of support in public opinion polls, but the number of people who have actually been activated by the issue is quite small. According to this poll, only 46% of Americans are sympathetic to Israel — but only 33% say they're sympathetic to Palestinians. 55% of Americans do support an independent Palestinian state, but again, not with enough fervor to have real political impact.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/657404/less-half-sympathetic-toward-israelis.aspx

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 16:21 (one month ago)

I think people who maintain that "we've all been seeing murdered Palestinian children on our phones for the last 18 months" overestimate the number of Americans who have had that experience.

jaymc, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 16:24 (one month ago)

My feeling, just based on the people in my social circle (in a blue state), Gaza didn’t make tons of people refuse to vote Biden/Harris, but definitely drove some people away, and destroyed any enthusiasm that existed based on Biden’s labor actions and domestic policy. That’s not really quantifiable but i wonder how many people would have made calls, knocked on doors, talked to family and friends, who instead thought “fine i’ll vote for them but fuck doing anything else for these assholes.”

JoeStork, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 16:28 (one month ago)

Well I got to see a picture of a maybe 3 month old baby from Gaza that still had the birthmark on his forehead from being delivered (eerily similar to my sons when he was a baby) under the headline “14,000 babies in Gaza at risk of imminent death..” today

Heez, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 16:32 (one month ago)

I think it definitely had some dampening effect for the Democrats. The counter to that (from a purely political/amoral standpoint) is that a stronger line might have alienated some number of Jewish voters. I don't know. But in any case the Dem leadership did not perceive the issue as sufficiently important to voters to make it a priority.

Americans only get really active in anti-war movements when Americans are being killed. Even then not as much as we should. It took until Jan. '69, a year after the Tet Offensive, for a majority of Americans to say sending troops to Vietnam had been a mistake. And even then it was only 52%. That climbed to 60% by the time the war ended.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 16:34 (one month ago)

ya I think JoeStork has it right, I don't know how much it really moved the needle but it did depress overall enthusiasm and made it clear that the Dems were merely the better of two evils which typically is not a great way to win an election. I don't think there were all that many people who decided not to vote as a result but it probably did make some differences on the fringe

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 16:51 (one month ago)

Yeah, it was a missed opportunity to draw a contrast, for sure.

jaymc, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 16:54 (one month ago)

Consequently, the ACT (and similar psychometrics) was adopted in southern and mid-western states as a more-(politically)-conservative corollary.

Oh interesting, I took the ACT (and not the SAT) in the Midwest and I vaguely wondered why there was a separate test.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 16:57 (one month ago)

I think I took all the tests because otherwise they would have just assumed I was just as mediocre as my town and school (which was the worst or 2nd worst in the county, switching back and forth with the city school that was mostly low income latine and Vietnamese immigrants).

sarahell, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:06 (one month ago)

I took both tests, but only the ACT was offered at my suburban Chicago high school; I had to go to a different high school in the area to take the SAT.

jaymc, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:26 (one month ago)

Fun that we were all participating in an insidious social engineering project or whatever!

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:29 (one month ago)

I had no idea abt any of this

sleeve, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:30 (one month ago)

I had no idea either. I took both tests. I thought they existed so that if you fucked up one the other would compensate.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:31 (one month ago)

Cory Booker who got lots of attention for his 24 hour speaking filibuster against the Trump admin and Republicans is now the only Dem to vote for convicted felon Charles Kushner , Jared's Dad, to be ambassador to France. Booker got campaign donations years back from Jared & his wife, and also gets a lot from Aipac.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-did-cory-booker-vote-142918411.html

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:32 (one month ago)

Standardized testing has always been an insidious social engineering project.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:34 (one month ago)

FDA says COVID boosters now only for those over 65 or with certain pre-existing conditions. Going to get much more difficult and more expensive for the rest of us to get a booster. Fucking monsters.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:39 (one month ago)

The list of pre-existing conditions is pretty long TBF, and includes depression, so pretty much everyone in America qualifies.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:41 (one month ago)

The last five months have helped.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:42 (one month ago)

Right, but that doesn't mean pharmacies will be hesitant to give it out and, most certainly we'll have to pay out of pocket for it in full.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:42 (one month ago)

Does it also include obesity because I'm pretty sure that's how I got on the list at my hospital the first time around. Which is funny since like half of all Americans would qualify.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:43 (one month ago)

iirc that list also included having ever smoked a cigarette (how i qualified myself to get an early booster).

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:46 (one month ago)

We should try to remember that the FDA recommendations of the past may not have predictive value for FDA recommendations of the present.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:48 (one month ago)

The SAT, a for-profit assessment with eugenicist origins, was too good at enshrining the wrong people (wealthy northeasterners) in higher education. Consequently, the ACT (and similar psychometrics) was adopted in southern and mid-western states as a more-(politically)-conservative corollary.

what's your source for this?

c u (crüt), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:49 (one month ago)

fwiw, the guy who developed the ACT was involved in the creation of a lot of standardized testing programs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everett_Franklin_Lindquist

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:51 (one month ago)

Carl Campbell Brigham (May 4, 1890 – January 24, 1943) was an American eugenicist and professor of psychology at Princeton University's Department of Psychology and a pioneer in the field of psychometrics. He sat on the advisory council of the American Eugenics Society (later known as the Society for Biodemography and Social Biology)[1] and his early writings heavily influenced the eugenics movement and anti-immigration legislation in the United States. He created the SAT for The College Board.

budo jeru, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 18:00 (one month ago)

I took the SAT as a sophomore and I had to drive to a different city on a Saturday morning. I don’t remember my district offering or facilitating it at all even later on.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 18:49 (one month ago)

The SAT and ACT are pretty consistently validated against each other. There's a high degree of concordance. Each has proponents, but scores on one tend to reflect the other, with same predictive validity against college performance. And taking one test, or the other, or both is already a self-selecting measure of (academic) privilege. In today’s education system they're both popular tools with far more economic utility than, I think, construct validity.

What this means is that if you want a good way metric for the impacts of dis/ability, secondary English status, psychological trauma, medical history, poverty, exclusionary disciplines, and (certain) racial categorizations during a child’s development, look at the students with the lowest scores on these tools. However, those folks who score highly will tell you their individual intelligence is the salient factor. Whatevs.

the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 18:52 (one month ago)

sorry, i was questioning the framing of the ACT as "more politically conservative" than the SAT, not whether a eugenicist was behind the SAT

c u (crüt), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 19:21 (one month ago)

source is NACP data, low res vis here:

https://static.diffen.com/uploadz/thumb/1/15/act-sat-preference.png/400px-act-sat-preference.png

the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:17 (one month ago)

source is NACP data, low res vis here:

https://static.diffen.com/uploadz/thumb/1/15/act-sat-preference.png/400px-act-sat-preference.png

the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:18 (one month ago)

Xp soda — idk I am not like a fan of standardized testing because it is limited in the types of abilities it measures but … it’s one of the few ways currently (and historically) that an underprivileged kid from a shitty school could demonstrate “aptitude” … and qualify for merit-based financial aid. It’s kinda like being good at math in terms of avenues for class mobility through education.

sarahell, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:24 (one month ago)

^^^^ gotta say this worked out exactly the same for me.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:30 (one month ago)

sorry, i was questioning the framing of the ACT as "more politically conservative" than the SAT, not whether a eugenicist was behind the SAT

― c u (crüt), Tuesday, May 20, 2025 2:21 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

similarly, i was curious where i could learn about how the perception that the SAT was "too good at enshrining the wrong people (wealthy northeasterners) in higher education" led to the creation of the ACT. i believe those NACP numbers, but they are answering a different question than the one i'd like to ask, which is more about the beliefs and intentions of the people who created these tests

budo jeru, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:33 (one month ago)

sarahell otm there, the ACT is what pretty much allowed me to go into college on the track I did. I came from a tiny farm school that was not well rated in the state, offered zero AP classes, very limited options. so scoring decently high on the ACT helped me out a whole lot.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:36 (one month ago)


FDA says COVID boosters now only for those over 65 or with certain pre-existing conditions. Going to get much more difficult and more expensive for the rest of us to get a booster. Fucking monsters.

― better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, May 20, 2025 1:39 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

The list of pre-existing conditions is pretty long TBF, and includes depression, so pretty much everyone in America qualifies.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, May 20, 2025 1:41 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is catastrophic; "but you can claim a preexisting condition" is cold comfort.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:42 (one month ago)

agreed! that didn't always work well before this administration. kind of surprised people seeming to think this is no big deal.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:43 (one month ago)

Because COVID is gone.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:45 (one month ago)

My school was really good but my parents were divorced and struggled with money, both when married and after. I started to struggle with school when they split and my teacher’s bullying made me just zone out; she would empty my desk onto the floor and tell me to put everything back, threaten me with repeating the year WITH HER, out loud in front of the class - just awful. Then I got the top score in the SRAs that year and suddenly TPTB decided the gap between aptitude and achievement reflected very badly on her, and made me feel safe from her. I still google this gorgon occasionally to check if she’s dead (not yet, she is 93).

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:47 (one month ago)

kind of surprised people seeming to think this is no big deal.

My post was kind of a whistling-past-the-graveyard joke. We're headed back to the 18th century. How are the king's humours today?

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:57 (one month ago)

America has been fucking with Venezuela’s politics and people for as long as I can remember, and it is never questioned by anyone to the right of Howard Zinn.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:02 (one month ago)

Suzy/sarahell/jvc:

I don't think we're actually in disagreement on most of this. I concur with the argument that some talented individuals, despite significant structural obstacles, can prove success by achievement on standardized metrics like the ACT/SAT. And that is genuinely, no shade, great for them.

However, individual successes (against the net balance of educational inequity, which consistently reinforces and validates race/class/ability/geographical/etc. bias) aren't proof that the system is working to "spring kids from [circumstance X]," it's evidence against the US education system's habitual failure to provide for its neediest populations on a large scale.

Many traditionalists (/educational conservatives) use these stories as evidence that the school system isn't effed up; it shifts the convesration from collective responsibility for students' failure, to elbow-grease individual accountability. ("I did it by rolling up my sleeves: so can you.").

the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:08 (one month ago)

Oh, I definitely wasn't trying to defend the deeply flawed system, just acknowledging that I did gain some benefit from it.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:13 (one month ago)

similarly, i was curious where i could learn about how the perception that the SAT was "too good at enshrining the wrong people (wealthy northeasterners) in higher education" led to the creation of the ACT. i believe those NACP numbers, but they are answering a different question than the one i'd like to ask, which is more about the beliefs and intentions of the people who created these tests

― budo jeru, Tuesday, May 20, 2025 4:33 PM (thirty-four minutes ago)

I misunderstood. There's a lot of history here. ACT was created to evaluate a broader sense of school achievement, than the elitist "cognitive reasoning" SAT that came under scrutiny in the mid-20th century. "Cognitive reasoning" is a pretty direct line back to boarding school-style education, eugenics, and classical pedagogy.

the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:16 (one month ago)

President Donald Trump announced Tuesday that the government will move forward on construction of a multibillion-dollar “Golden Dome” missile defense system that will use a constellation of satellites and space-based weapons to intercept ballistic attacks on the United States.

For months, Trump has pushed for such a system, citing increasingly sophisticated threats from countries such as Russia, China and North Korea.

“Once fully constructed, the Golden Dome will be capable of intercepting missiles even if they are launched from other sides of the world and even if they are launched from space, and we will have the best system ever built,” Trump said in the Oval Office alongside Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who later described the project as a “game changer.”

...Trump has already allocated $25 billion in the federal budget toward the construction of the Golden Dome in the massive budget bill that Republicans in Congress aim to pass in the coming weeks. Earlier this month, the Congressional Budget Office estimated that deploying and operating just the space-based interceptors of the new missile defense system could cost anywhere from $161 billion to $542 billion over the next two decades. On Tuesday, Trump said he estimated the system would cost $175 billion.

z_tbd, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:24 (one month ago)

I misunderstood. There's a lot of history here. ACT was created to evaluate a broader sense of school achievement, than the elitist "cognitive reasoning" SAT that came under scrutiny in the mid-20th century. "Cognitive reasoning" is a pretty direct line back to boarding school-style education, eugenics, and classical pedagogy.

― the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Tuesday, May 20, 2025 4:16 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

that's super interesting. do you have any books you can recommend about this?

budo jeru, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:26 (one month ago)

I don't know much that's readable and book-length, but there's a lot of scholarly literature out there. Tyack and Cuban wrote a famous overview of achievement and school called Tinkering Toward Utopia (1993) that chronicles school reform over the last century, and definitely has some detours into college admissions.

Here's a quick NEA explainer, which I think is also full of liks.

the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:42 (one month ago)

I haven't read them, but Nicholas Lemann has written two books on standardized testing: The Big Test: The Secret History of the American Meritocracy (1999) and Higher Admissions: The Rise, Decline, and Return of Standardized Testing (2024).

jaymc, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:44 (one month ago)

(I think the first one is specifically about the history of the SAT.)

jaymc, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:45 (one month ago)

this fuckin thing that won’t work is going to cost half a trillion dollars and then eye going to turn around and say money doesn’t grow on trees and what about the budget deficit and we can’t fund any goddamn thing. how many times are we going to replay the 1980s??? i am so goddamned sick of this

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:46 (one month ago)

The Mismeasure of Man by Stephen Jay Gould was included on the syllabus in my Cognitive Assessment class in grad school to foster a critical lens on the concept of biological intelligence for a bunch of folks learning how to do intelligence testing. Does not get into the history of the SAT and ACT though, more focused on psychological testing

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:47 (one month ago)

thanks all

budo jeru, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 22:34 (one month ago)

this fuckin thing that won’t work is going to cost half a trillion dollars and then eye going to turn around and say money doesn’t grow on trees and what about the budget deficit and we can’t fund any goddamn thing. how many times are we going to replay the 1980s??? i am so goddamned sick of this


Why can’t we just rent the Jewish space lasers

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 22:51 (one month ago)

my coworker’s father-in-law worked on the 80s space laser program! I met him once but didn’t get the opportunity to ask him about it

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 00:03 (one month ago)

obviously I was going to ask if he got to meet George Lucas. pretty sure he’s heard that one before

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 00:04 (one month ago)

Sherrilyn Ifill enumerates where we've gone in the last 24 hours.

https://bsky.app/profile/sifill.bsky.social/post/3lpnj3vzkgs25

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 02:50 (one month ago)

More detail on on one of the many thing Ifill listed in bluesky post that Moodles just linked .

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/20/us-judge-indicates-deportations-to-south-sudan-likely-violated-court-order?link_source=ta_bluesky_link&taid=682d25a909703200019ca71d&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=bluesky

Sending deportees to South Sudan without 24 hours or more due process notice

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 03:40 (one month ago)

And in violation of court ruling that Trump admin can’t randomly send people to countries that aren’t their homelands

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 04:11 (one month ago)

I was telling my mother "they are straight up kidnapping people off the street and sending them to gulags in 3rd world countries" and she didn't believe me, because when you say it like that it just sounds fucking *insane*.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 05:45 (one month ago)

Republicans are also holding a 1 am on Eastern time session now on their budget and more bill that takes from the poor to gives to the rich, curs Medicaid and Snap, plus bars courts from using criminal contempt rulings against Justice Dept and Trump admin personnel; sells public land; cuts pensions for fed employees; blocks states from regulating AI

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 06:16 (one month ago)

normally with fascism you pay off your racist working class supporters in exchange for their support for your corrupt program - i'm not sure how it's supposed to work in this case when nobody is actually being thrown a bone?? what am i missing?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 10:38 (one month ago)

not surprising, but “let’s just make up some shit to justify this horrifying policy” is in line with recent conversation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/20/us/politics/gabbard-intelligence-venezuelans-tren-de-aragua-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.I08.lgWD.V5czR0QyhlPD&smid=url-share

(gift link)

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 11:43 (one month ago)

normally with fascism you pay off your racist working class supporters in exchange for their support for your corrupt program - i'm not sure how it's supposed to work in this case when nobody is actually being thrown a bone?? what am i missing?

They are getting exactly what they want. The racism.

And the other side isn't offering them anything other than "not racism" (which they don't want) and not even really offering that.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 11:57 (one month ago)

Like, it's right in the thread title.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 11:59 (one month ago)

normally with fascism you pay off your racist working class supporters in exchange for their support for your corrupt program - i'm not sure how it's supposed to work in this case when nobody is actually being thrown a bone?? what am i missing?

They are getting exactly what they want. The racism.

I don't think thats actually what they want (although many of them want that too). I think the corrupt program and the bone aren't opposite, they're the same thing. They want a messianic figure and in the abstract at least they're ok with losing rights, and even when they're not its part of a greater sacrifice. It's part of a cleansing process.

anvil, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 12:41 (one month ago)

I was listening to a focus group thing of first time Trump voters a couple of weeks ago. Although none of them felt good about what was happening and some were deeply frightened, none of them said they would change their votes if they could go back in time. These weren't MAGA loyalists or die-hards. It almost felt like they didn't think of themselves as having agency, it wasn't a question of what they 'wanted'

anvil, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 12:46 (one month ago)

And while I do think of this as a type of fascism I don't think the context of the 1930s variants is transferable. Populations were younger, and working class supporters active in an industrial sector that was much more integral to the economy. Ignoring these was such more dangerous, and that equivalent doesn't exist in the same way today.

The role of 'workers' isn't as key as it once was, and the bet going forward seems to be that workers are going to become even less so, and perhaps ultimately no longer required

anvil, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 12:53 (one month ago)

here’s what i’ve been wondering:

what if all of this is very simple? what if this isn’t economic, cultural, racial, geographical, but, instead psychological?

what if trumpism just does a very good job at articulating anger (righteously, appropriately, at the state of a very crappy post-covid world), and highlighting the virtues of individualism — while a soggy, incoherent, infighting left signals half-assed ~ good vibes ~ collectivist optimism, on one hand, while continuing the moronic neoliberal bullshit that got us here in the first place?

the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 13:31 (one month ago)

I think that's been the case since 2015!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 13:32 (one month ago)

It's not economics, border control, or protecting girls in the bathroom -- it's monetized hatred of the minorities who've gained a measure of agency since the Great Society if not the New Deal and the passage of the Fourteenth Amendment.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 13:33 (one month ago)

Ultimately it’s all daddy issues for Trump voters

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 13:36 (one month ago)

I think its definitely that when you look at where Trump made inroads as he widened his support during the last election. He said he was going to do some stuff and fix some issues and that other lady didnt

anvil, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 13:41 (one month ago)

“We’re meeting in the dead of night to consider a terrible bill, and you haven’t even drafted or shared some of the most critical parts of the bill,” Representative Mary Gay Scanlon, Democrat of Pennsylvania, said at 2:40 a.m.

Should the bill advance from the committee to the House floor, it could receive a vote as early as Wednesday. But as the panel’s work stretched on, it was not clear when Republicans would be able to call it up, and its prospects on the floor were far from assured.

Excerpt from NY Times describing House committee meeting that started at 1 am today

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 14:26 (one month ago)

apparently Senate Republicans are about to carve out a large exception to the filibuster rules in order to repeal recent California vehicle emissions standards with a simple majority

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 14:43 (one month ago)

it feels like the agenda is equal parts "you can't tell me what to do" and "don't make me accept things I feel uncomfortable about" with a voter base that has some vague sense their country has changed in a way they can't put their finger on, and all of the most disgusting policy decisions and executive actions are an attempt to silence the sources of this discomfort

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 16:19 (one month ago)

One reason that it's a struggle for us to agree about what exactly motivated Trump voters and what they hoped to get in exchange for putting him in office, is that like any successful presidential campaign it was a coalition, full of voters with wildly variant goals and political views. The least sophisticated Trump voters were the ones who are overwhelmed, confused, struggling and just wanted someone to "fix things", basically meaning "mend my broken life". The most sophisticated are the outright fascists who are 100% committed to accruing total unchallenged power over society. Most of them occupy some kind of muddled mix of vague fears, varying degrees of racism, resentment about taxes, distrust of government, over-confidence in their own crackpot ideas, etc. iow, they comprise all the many motives we keep bringing up in these discussions.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 16:38 (one month ago)

I think thats partly why it can be useful to split off die-hards and loyalists from people who voted Trump this time but hadn't before. Where is Trump making inroads, why was he able to reach some people he hadn't before. A coalition one year might not be the same coalition another year. He was delivering the racism and the tax cuts before too, why weren't the newer voters swayed by those before?

anvil, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 17:03 (one month ago)

These idiots took the fuckin' jet.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 17:04 (one month ago)

Of course they did

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 17:19 (one month ago)

why weren't the newer voters swayed by those before?

I can't claim to know, but my suspicion is that a large chunk of voters who newly switched to Trump are just angry at whoever is in power, powerfully frustrated, and are ready to try anything that breaks the current power structure. They correctly perceived that Trump would do some version of that. This cohort has always been there in every election, but seems to have grown significantly since covid. So, as the thread title states, they did sign up for this, actually.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 17:24 (one month ago)

Also, another White House ambush.

President Trump has shown his South African counterpart a video that he said proved white farmers in the country were being subjected to genocide.

At an Oval Office meeting on Wednesday President Ramaphosa sat uncomfortably in his seat as the almost four-minute film showed South African politicians calling for violence against white people. Trump then leafed through printed news reports that he said detailed the deaths of farmers in the country. “Death, death, death,” Trump said.

Trump had earlier said Ramaphosa was respected in “some circles but not in others”.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 17:28 (one month ago)

Also also, the hits keep on comin':

he U.S. Justice Department on Wednesday moved to withdraw from federal settlement agreements with the cities of Minneapolis and Louisville, which had called for sweeping police reforms following the high-profile deaths of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor in 2020.

The settlements, known as consent decrees, were negotiated in response to scathing federal investigations and were designed to bring both departments under court-supervised overhauls. The Biden administration finalized the Minneapolis agreement in January 2025, just before leaving office, aiming to address systemic failures in training, use-of-force policies, and officer accountability.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 17:28 (one month ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e34RNgLdzCY

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 17:31 (one month ago)

Mostly genuine question... outside of the obvious racism angle, do even most of his supporters care that much about the whole South Africa fake bullshit?

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 17:33 (one month ago)

xp Wise fascist move to conciliate the cops who are most willing to abuse their power and use indiscriminate lethal force.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 17:36 (one month ago)

Maybe not re South Afrikan fake news, but it encourages their belief that white people are being or will be oppressed.

All political news is filtered and shared in a certain way that seemingly helps MAGA -

Northern Virginia Democrat rep in the House Connolly just died today after his cancer returned quickly after he had thought it was in remission. 3 Dems in House in their 70s have died this term and have not been replaced yet. This is bad not only for immediate votes in the House , but this contributes to perception of Dems as being run by a feebled gerontocracy, a reputation that the mainstream media and the rightwing media will happily point out to the MAGA voters and non-voters.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 17:37 (one month ago)

grok is president now

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 17:39 (one month ago)

And the DNC and Dem party and Biden failures then get more attention or at least distract attention from the Trump fascism

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 17:40 (one month ago)

as someone pointed out, not even the most hardcore outwardly racist afrikaners (Solidarity, etc.) want to move to the U.S.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 17:49 (one month ago)

Oakland’s PD has been on “consent decree” status for over 20 years… maybe they can remove ours while they’re at it? We have a huge budget deficit and removing the compliance costs would really help us out.

sarahell, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 18:15 (one month ago)

I don't suppose these 'be ambushed and humilated by Trump in the Oval Office on camera' are going to stop after this latest one but jfc

nashwan, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 18:24 (one month ago)

this is the 'resist' you see on boomers' cardboard signs

Federal immigration agents were reported at a major strawberry packing facility in Ventura County late Thursday morning, sparking fear among workers and prompting at least one to leave early. That fear, however, never culminated in a full-scale raid thanks to informed staff who knew their legal ground and asserted their right to deny entry without a warrant.

According to Ezequiel Ochoa, a gatekeeper at the site, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers arrived at the entrance but left shortly afterward when they were asked to present a warrant and failed to do so. “We know not to open the gate unless a valid warrant is presented,” Ochoa said.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 18:31 (one month ago)

finally, a government that will do something about the strawberry pickers

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 18:33 (one month ago)

Mostly genuine question... outside of the obvious racism angle, do even most of his supporters care that much about the whole South Africa fake bullshit?

I had assumed this was another Musk thing, don't think either Trump or his supporters care much beyond "well if it upsets the libs".

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 18:39 (one month ago)

Yeah I absolutely assumed it was a Musk driven thing, I just wondered if it was even landing with his base or just another weird ass thing they keep squawking about that people really don't give a shit about.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 18:42 (one month ago)

I had assumed this was another Musk thing, don't think either Trump or his supporters care much beyond "well if it upsets the libs".

It goes back farther than that. Tucker Carlson wept many a bitter tear over the plight of the poor Afrikaners back when he was still on TV.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 18:56 (one month ago)

Northern Virginia Democrat rep in the House Connolly just died today after his cancer returned quickly after he had thought it was in remission. 3 Dems in House in their 70s have died this term and have not been replaced yet. This is bad not only for immediate votes in the House , but this contributes to perception of Dems as being run by a feebled gerontocracy, a reputation that the mainstream media and the rightwing media will happily point out to the MAGA voters and non-voters.

― curmudgeon, Wednesday, May 21, 2025 1:37 PM (one hour ago)

I was just reminded on bluesky that AOC lost her bid to be on the Oversight Committee to this guy back in December

rob, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 19:01 (one month ago)

Make-a-Wish

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 19:02 (one month ago)

xps Yeah this has been a RW talking point for a long time.

Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 19:02 (one month ago)

Tucker Carlson wept many a bitter tear over the plight of the poor Afrikaners back when he was still on TV

everything I've seen indicates that this is of far more concern to the American right than to actual Afrikaners

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 19:04 (one month ago)

Like many other shit we’re subject to this was just something that got stuck in his burger-fat soaked brain for whatever reason and now here we are

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 19:15 (one month ago)

I feel like it started as a what-aboutism-- like "oh, you care so much about Palestinians and police brutality but you don't seem to care about genocided whitez."

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 19:19 (one month ago)

In August 2018, United States president Donald Trump was accused of endorsing the conspiracy theory in a foreign policy tweet instructing Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to investigate South African "land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers",[38][39][40] claiming that the "South African government is now seizing land from white farmers".[41]

Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 19:26 (one month ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/kibblesmith.com/post/3lpou2ycghs2r

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 19:27 (one month ago)

Hey now, to be fair, by comparison within the DNC's bullshit gerontocracy.. 74 IS young.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 19:28 (one month ago)

These idiots took the fuckin' jet.

be HILARIOUS if it fuckin' crashed.

conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 19:29 (one month ago)

at least there will be something to display at his presidential library.. I can't imagine he has many books

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 19:36 (one month ago)

You just know they'll line the walls of that place with poster sized versions of his Truth posts.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 19:36 (one month ago)

xps the plane was already sitting in san antonio for some time.

Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 19:37 (one month ago)

so much for 'states rights' lol

Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) is teeing up a contentious vote to overturn California’s electric vehicle mandate, defying a ruling from the Senate parliamentarian.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 19:46 (one month ago)

with a voter base that has some vague sense their country has changed in a way they can't put their finger on

This still frustrates me. "Political correctness gone MAD! Liberal fascists! Wokeness! Cancel culture! They're transing the pets using drag story hours!"

Then I look at the actual news and I'm like, bro, rich straight white dudes still run almost everything.

zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 20:11 (one month ago)

I think it’s just that the Dems, collectively, can’t articulate anything compelling in return. Too many alleged liberal pundits and Dem “strategists” loudly shout back “We agree you have valid concerns we must pay attention to, here’s a a compromise!” to RW talking points

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 20:27 (one month ago)

Meanwhile...

Maxwell Frost

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They wanted to pass this evil budget to take away healthcare from millions earlier today. It’s still stuck in the rules committee cause House Dems introduced over 500 amendments and we are lined up to debate on them. Delaying is important. Keep up the pressure on these Congressional Republicans.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 20:46 (one month ago)

Now that’s good. But the Dems still have to be able to clearly articulate a positive program.

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 20:51 (one month ago)

as someone pointed out, not even the most hardcore outwardly racist afrikaners (Solidarity, etc.) want to move to the U.S.

Why would they when...

South Africa is one of the most unequal societies in the world. White people make up 7% of the country’s population but own at least half of South Africa’s land. They are also better off economically by almost every measure.

Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 21:00 (one month ago)

yeah most CEOs of large companies there are white as well

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 21:02 (one month ago)

Just re: the SA thing, the “white Afrikaners are so oppressed “ has been a white nationalist rallying cry for decades— it’s how groups like the Golden State Skinheads lend their cause a thin veneer of legitimacy when they do demonstrations in Sacramento, tho of course the Swastika flags come out pretty quickly once their demos get going.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 21:03 (one month ago)

Democratic leadership pointing to the fact that rich white straight dudes still run almost everything would carry a strong whiff of Democratic leadership pointing at the failure of their remedies to remedy much of anything. So, instead of proposing new stronger remedies that might work, like reparations and the Equal Rights Amendment, they tend to sidestep that subject.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 21:25 (one month ago)

“They will be accompanied by 28 M1 Abrams tanks, 28 Bradley fighting vehicles, 28 Strykers and other military equipment. Thirty-four horses, two mules and a dog also will participate in the parade. (The dog’s name was not available at press time.) More than 50 helicopters will participate in a flyover.”

trm (tombotomod), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 22:08 (one month ago)

NAME THE DOG DAMMIT

trm (tombotomod), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 22:08 (one month ago)

no Qatari jetliner flyover? GTFO

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 22:27 (one month ago)

The dog's name is Shithead.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 22:32 (one month ago)

wasn't there something in the past where they couldn't use actual tanks on the streets of DC because they destroy the asphalt?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 22:42 (one month ago)

“The Army is finalizing plans to place large metal plates at key points on the route to better protect streets from the movements of tanks set to roll through. The tanks are also being fitted with new rubber track pads.”

trm (tombotomod), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 22:50 (one month ago)

Rubber Trumper Tanky Bumpers

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 22:54 (one month ago)

Glad I’ll be out of town that day

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 22:57 (one month ago)

https://i.imgur.com/FN6CRqX.png

z_tbd, Thursday, 22 May 2025 02:17 (one month ago)

Dumb question: yes, this budget bill is horrific in many ways, but does shoving it through in the middle of the night really make any significant difference?

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Thursday, 22 May 2025 06:03 (one month ago)

republicans think they're going to get less attention by doing so and thereby avoid criticism from constituents who are going to be fucked by this bill (they are wrong)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 22 May 2025 06:40 (one month ago)

ughhhhhhhh this is awful and will make more things even more awful

conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Thursday, 22 May 2025 09:55 (one month ago)

“Israelis Shocked and Horrified by Embassy Killing”

Ah yes, but watching children carry parts of their siblings down the street is okey-dokey.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 May 2025 11:16 (one month ago)

Also just going to say that we know who will make things worse, and it’s not the Palestinians or the pro-Palestine cause.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 May 2025 11:21 (one month ago)

My instinct was that it was a right-wing false flag thing tbh

sarahell, Thursday, 22 May 2025 12:51 (one month ago)

same. the reactions to this are positively insane, these apologists saying straight faced that those opposing a genocide caused the death of this young couple.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 May 2025 13:01 (one month ago)

Ken Klippenstein has published what appears to be the shooter's manifesto: https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/the-israel-embassy-shooter-manifesto

jaymc, Thursday, 22 May 2025 13:08 (one month ago)

Today is gonna be fabulous with the I-told-you-sos on social media!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 May 2025 13:19 (one month ago)

The existence of insane people does not automatically mean that everyone is insane

I have to keep repeating this to myself

my favorite herbs are fennel and Drake (DJP), Thursday, 22 May 2025 13:32 (one month ago)

Lischinsky's twitter account is chock-full of genocidal rhetoric, incidentally.

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 22 May 2025 13:35 (one month ago)

horrible news.

c u (crüt), Thursday, 22 May 2025 13:38 (one month ago)

That killing of the couple and the House passing terrible budget bill . Ugh

curmudgeon, Thursday, 22 May 2025 13:50 (one month ago)

i'm quite sure this is not a false flag, and it is in fact a very fucked up thing that has happened, and I'm also quite confident that this will lead nowhere good

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 22 May 2025 14:23 (one month ago)

fwiw, i do think what happened is awful. i also think the fact that it will be used to further dehumanize and destroy Palestinian people is loathsome.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 May 2025 14:35 (one month ago)

And it will be used for greater repression at home

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 May 2025 14:38 (one month ago)

Fourteen hours ago my union hosted a round table between immigration experts and our university police chief, the latter of whom signed a 287(g) agreement with ICE. The experts warned about using the thinnest of pretexts for the arrests of students with TPP or visas, one of which was...First Amendment-protected protests against Israel.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 May 2025 14:42 (one month ago)

And it will be used for greater repression at home


Yes. I admit that it is cold comfort, but I have an inkling that within my lifetime, more and more people will see all of this for what it is— an apartheid state annihilating an oppressed and captive population to reach its goals of religious ethnostate, and Israel’s actions will be looked upon with scorn and derision. Unfortunately, it’s going to take some time to get there.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 May 2025 15:04 (one month ago)

that bill is heinous. bans gender affirming care for ppl on medicaid and obamacare

ivy., Thursday, 22 May 2025 15:08 (one month ago)

Xp Table, yeah future generations will curse us

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 May 2025 15:10 (one month ago)

and also not a x-post

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 22 May 2025 15:30 (one month ago)

Quite

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 May 2025 15:32 (one month ago)

I want to be there when the afrikaners that moved to Alabama realize they traded Cape Town for Panama City

Heez, Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:03 (one month ago)

They’ll all slowly migrate to Destin

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:09 (one month ago)

Florida!!! is one hell of a drug

jaymc, Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:20 (one month ago)

the state with the prettiest name!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:23 (one month ago)

sorry, but that's Idaho

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:32 (one month ago)

House approves Trump's massive package

zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:56 (one month ago)

TMI

sleeve, Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:57 (one month ago)

getting a real 'don't let them see what it's in it' vibe with this spending bill

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 May 2025 17:00 (one month ago)

https://i.imgur.com/8rROrY0.gif

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 May 2025 17:02 (one month ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/22/us/politics/trump-harvard-international-students.html

Trump Administration Halts Harvard’s Ability to Enroll International Students

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:16 (one month ago)

Yeah, said this on another thread, but this is the red scare all over again.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:30 (one month ago)

The letter was sent by Kristi Noem? God we live in the stupidest, most horrifying version of 2025.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:31 (one month ago)

harvard doesn't really have any choice but to fight them on this because if they acquiesce at all they immediately cease being harvard

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:39 (one month ago)

It's kind of breathtaking how many new zones Trump has targeted to flood with shit. Harvard is already in multiple queues for getting onto court dockets to fight this shit and as soon as he can produce the next load of shit to dump on them they'll be filing briefs in a few more cases against him. But the biggest recipient of all Trump's shit is the federal judiciary, because every other recipient of Trump's shit is forced to go through the courts, and the judges are required to bury themselves in all of it.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:42 (one month ago)

the fight against 'antisemitism' is such a cynical ploy.. what they're really against is academia, free-thinking, secular scholarship, and civil society in general

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:49 (one month ago)

how many international students are there at Harvard? this shit is insane

frogbs, Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:52 (one month ago)

like 23% this year

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:59 (one month ago)

I think the goal here is to scare Harvard students into transferring. I hope the school is staying on top of damage control.

henry s, Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:01 (one month ago)

This seems like something Harvard can get an injunction against pretty quick, I'd think. What even is the alleged rationale?

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:16 (one month ago)

that they are pro-terrorist

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/05/22/harvard-university-loses-student-and-exchange-visitor-program-certification-pro

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:18 (one month ago)

absolutely insane

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:21 (one month ago)

This is actually in the DHS fact sheet: that Harvard accepted boatloads of cash from foreign governments and donors

at least they didn't accept a jet from Qatar, who supports and hosts the leaders of Hamas

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:21 (one month ago)

Pretty weak shit there. Especially all the China stuff, which is all allegations and unclear how significant any of it is. Plus some of the links in the DHS press release don't even work.

I do hope Harvard continues standing up, because if they can topple Harvard, most others will cave.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:24 (one month ago)

there's zero chance that Harvard will not fight this, and they'll probably get it stopped extremely quickly

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:25 (one month ago)

and I'm sure there's more than a few Harvard-trained attorney who will help pro bono

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:28 (one month ago)

They already have a battalion of lawyers for their other lawsuit, I'm sure they're working on filing a suit right now.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:31 (one month ago)

"Pro-Terrorist Conduct" is some shit even John Ashcroft would be too embarrassed to pull

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:42 (one month ago)

Someone posted this comment on the blog I frequent. It's what several union members and I discussed after our university town hall last night even before this Harvard news broke:

To think about this in the most cold-bloodedly effective way possible:

Most of this is grossly unpopular. Trump, in fact, remains quite unpopular; there's an emerging picture that he might have permanently damaged himself and will now bounce around between 40-45%, instead of between 45-50% like he did in his first term. And it's a constant, wearying drumbeat of unpopular decisions as well.

That has worked against us in some ways, as the noise of any individual Trump scandal is drowned out by all his other scandals, but... Scott had a post a few weeks back about how the only people who really like Trump are those who don't know anything about him. And the constant drumbeat is just really bad for him. Even Fox is running stories like "Trump approval rating sags despite gains in border security," and that headline tells you everything about the agenda and slightly baffled state of the person writing it.

The vibes are bad for him. The vibes used to be "Biden old, Trump is normal." But now even if you're an Ariana Grande voter, when you glance at the news it is uniformly "what Trump is doing is weird and scary and illegal." If the news is on, assuming it isn't Newsmax or something, even if its Fox its "this isn't quite right." If you pick up something to read briefly or are scrolling a generic "articles from CNN, ABC, NBC, the shell of Newsweek, occasional tech site, etc." feed provided by most phones (most people don't curate their feed, they just let it go, so they end up with a generic mish-mash of mainstream media) it's just "this is weird and scary." It pervades the air. Even MAGA senses it.

People are getting radicalized. They'll get MORE radicalized. Trump's fractured incompetence, combined with the inherent unwieldiness of the federal system, works against him more and more. More and more folks are willing to stand up. Even those who get very tired are going to be tired of him.

They can be beaten. They already know they've lost socially; their pathetic mewling about trans people is a desperate rearguard action and will have the same staying power as 2004s anti-gay landslides. The anti-semitism horse may be able to be ridden longer, but to the extent people care about I/P as an issue, it won't be a winning one for much longer. Anti-immigrant animus will be with us forever, but vague Ariana Grande voters like to imagine that there's some vague horde of evildoers that doesn't include the guys the know, and most people who aren't the fascist hardcore react very badly to videos of masked thugs throwing young women into cars.

None of these fucks can even talk normally. Elon Musk gave an hour-long interview to Bloomberg a couple days ago and he spoke in techbro code so thick even I had trouble deciphering it. He sounds like he's ALREADY from Mars.

So yeah, we can break them, both socially and at the ballot box. WILL we? Perhaps not. But we CAN. We broke Jim Crow, and we can break them.

The only essential ingredient missing at this point is leadership from the opposition party. We will require this at some point sooner than 2028. The Governors can do a lot, but so far only Pritzker is bothering; Newsome is an outright traitor and Hochul is, well, Hochul. Andy Beshear will try he has the realities of Kentucky to deal with. We need some from Congress. AOC and Sanders will try, but one is very old, one is very young, and both provoke irrational hatred from a lot of people in their own coalition. There's a great appetite for full-throated opposition; the first Democratic Senator who realizes the power they could wield by simply adopting a maximalist obstruction agenda will reap some dividends.

But they can be beaten.

I don't agree with every point but I appreciate its spirit.

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:46 (one month ago)

Claiming Harvard is "Pro-terrorist" while forking over $5M of taxpayer cash to Ashli Babbit's family is some epic trolling. Kudos.

imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:52 (one month ago)

thanks Alfred, now can you explain what a Ariana Grande voter is

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:56 (one month ago)

It's code on that blog for "thing that younger voter knows that the olds don't."

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:58 (one month ago)

Actually, it's code for "people who don't know shit" — basically, the writer who created the term knows who Ariana Grande is, has some vague idea that she's a singer, but couldn't identify one of her songs or tell you anything detailed about her with a gun to his head. And that's how 90% of Americans are about politics, and their elected leaders. They might know the name, possibly the face, but that's as deep as their knowledge goes. And they vote anyway.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:12 (one month ago)

I prefer my Arianas Venti

zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:15 (one month ago)

She started the Grandeton Post

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:17 (one month ago)

Her ex Michaela Grandeton is a conservative Republican turned drag queen

sarahell, Thursday, 22 May 2025 21:02 (one month ago)

sometimes i think i hate mike johnson more than i hate trump or anyone else. god, what a shit stain

budo jeru, Thursday, 22 May 2025 21:08 (one month ago)

Inspiring essay (from LGM?) but I don’t think AOC is too young to be a party leader and I thought normie Dems who like Pete Buttigieg and hate Bernie also love her?

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 May 2025 21:54 (one month ago)

I think so

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 May 2025 22:12 (one month ago)

AOC is one of my favorite politicians, but I still have a hard time imagining her as a viable presidential candidate in 2028 given her age and her stature within the party. It's true, though, that she is more broadly popular with the Democratic base than is sometimes assumed. Is there a way for her to position herself as an unofficial party leader of sorts, as a commanding voice of the opposition who is not within the actual leadership ranks of the party?

jaymc, Thursday, 22 May 2025 22:43 (one month ago)

It's also obvious now that Pelosi and leadership hate her and want to punish her

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 May 2025 22:46 (one month ago)

They'll be dead soon...

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 May 2025 22:47 (one month ago)

You know, cuz <old>

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 May 2025 22:47 (one month ago)

God I hate the Democratic Party as an institution

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 May 2025 23:14 (one month ago)

same!

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 23 May 2025 00:15 (one month ago)

To be PVMIC, I keep thinking about when they made the supposedly completely insane joke that a senator wanted to drill for oil in Teddy Rosevelt's head (ie Mt Rushmore) but honestly? At this point I reckon they'd do it without batting an eye or apologising.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 23 May 2025 01:33 (one month ago)

Sorry, the joke in the SIMPSONs ffs left the key part out.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 23 May 2025 01:33 (one month ago)

It’s too bad when people don’t know the pop splendor of songs like “Into You,” but i still think it’s a stupid and somewhat petty metaphor

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 23 May 2025 03:07 (one month ago)

agreed! ariana grande deserves better

the thing that sticks with me is that
Pelosi and others started their march to leadership as part of the early 90s progressive caucus, which walked into the center as years passed. I think the real issue is that instead of courting whatever the actual left may be, it just petered out and became what it is. maybe it was doomed from the start, maybe the real pattern is to supplant the last group with a new one. either way, it’s limp

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 23 May 2025 03:19 (one month ago)

"It's limp" for June thread title.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 May 2025 03:29 (one month ago)

Pelosi wasn’t all that progressive in the early 90s, though again, that’s a matter of perspective

sarahell, Friday, 23 May 2025 14:57 (one month ago)

yeah, she was not a founding member of the caucus, but was an early joiner

pretty much all of the founding members are dead, retired, or Maxine Waters/Bernie Sanders

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 23 May 2025 15:06 (one month ago)

the thing about the Ariana Grande Theory is that it could be anyone, but I'm guessing that the author's lack of familiarity with Grande resonated with the Gen X readers of an old-school politics blog.

jaymc, Friday, 23 May 2025 15:19 (one month ago)

it sounds like something they polled 8 years ago and have never stopped referencing

c u (crüt), Friday, 23 May 2025 15:20 (one month ago)

Their most annoying poster practically twinkles when he uses it

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 May 2025 15:28 (one month ago)

Xp mh — Barbara Lee (an actual progressive from that era) is now Oakland Mayor

sarahell, Friday, 23 May 2025 15:38 (one month ago)

I stopped reading LGM because it stopped feeling like interesting editorial and more like some excessively centrist liberal cranks whining about everything.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 23 May 2025 15:41 (one month ago)

They're at their dullest when all they post is "look what bad thing Trump did today"

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 May 2025 15:42 (one month ago)

True of most of us tbh!

And yet ... it's hard not to.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 23 May 2025 16:55 (one month ago)

I wish l could just read Loomis’s grave posts without the other stuff. I had to stop reading after the election.

trm (tombotomod), Friday, 23 May 2025 17:08 (one month ago)

when all they post is "look what bad thing Trump did today"

but we have an entire thread for the Supreme Court that's nothing but "look what bad thing the justices did today". it's hard to avoid atm.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 24 May 2025 03:38 (one month ago)

why doesn’t someone make a newspaper that only publishes good news? i think it’d be a hit!

z_tbd, Saturday, 24 May 2025 05:54 (one month ago)

Jim from The Office was on the case but he got distracted

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Saturday, 24 May 2025 06:10 (one month ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/24/us/politics/fetterman-senate-absence-mental-health-interview.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

maybe this loser should just resign?

brony james (k3vin k.), Saturday, 24 May 2025 13:54 (one month ago)

seriously

jaymc, Saturday, 24 May 2025 14:06 (one month ago)

Well, we know what kid he was during group project
assignments.

Cow_Art, Saturday, 24 May 2025 14:15 (one month ago)

He probably should have googled “What do Senators do?” before he sent in his resume.

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Saturday, 24 May 2025 14:39 (one month ago)

i'm all for accommodations for mental health but when you're elected into the Senate I'm not sure "not showing up" is an option

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 24 May 2025 14:46 (one month ago)

it would be one thing if he was like "I really want to be there, but I need to take care of myself," but it sounds like he just doesn't give a shit about any of it.

jaymc, Saturday, 24 May 2025 14:52 (one month ago)

The quotes in that article were laughable. “I am feeling increasing pressure to do my job” like what the fuck

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 24 May 2025 14:57 (one month ago)

At the same time, Mr. Fetterman has shed staff. And he has grown more isolated from his Democratic colleagues. (Mr. Fetterman detests the word “isolated,” which he thinks is just code for mental health issues.)

Lol

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Saturday, 24 May 2025 15:09 (one month ago)

fuck him

brimstead, Saturday, 24 May 2025 15:16 (one month ago)

i'm all for accommodations for mental health but when you're elected into the Senate I'm not sure "not showing up" is an option

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, May 24, 2025 7:46 AM (thirty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

tmi but who cares it's fucking insulting to those of us who actually have struggled with mental health and have lost our fucking jobs over it

brimstead, Saturday, 24 May 2025 15:17 (one month ago)

i mean, fetterman's bullshit, not you akm <3

brimstead, Saturday, 24 May 2025 15:18 (one month ago)

sorry for total incoherence, as usual

brimstead, Saturday, 24 May 2025 15:19 (one month ago)

Like, “I don’t feel like I should have to show up for my job on Mondays because that’s when I do daddy-daughter date night” is not a real mental health accommodation. Plus, no one is going fire him anyway—he just doesn’t want anyone to criticize him for working a no-show job.

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Saturday, 24 May 2025 15:21 (one month ago)

God, I hope he gets primaried

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 24 May 2025 17:05 (one month ago)

I hope he has to resign because of terminal penis psoriasis. If he isn’t placed in a medical coma he’ll scratch himself to death.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Saturday, 24 May 2025 17:12 (one month ago)

He quit the caucus group chat, he said, because he couldn’t figure out how to turn off the notifications and most of the conversation was insignificant senatorial chitchat.


This was a nice detail, very reassuring re: competence

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 24 May 2025 18:10 (one month ago)

grading mental health issues C or D

Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Saturday, 24 May 2025 18:21 (one month ago)

Sitting in the US Senate feels very different to me than simply having an employer who hired yo to do a job. You are required to perform a critically important public service and if you are consistently unable to do that service you have an ethical obligation to recognize that fact and allow someone else to fill your place. I know this idealistic notion requires me to overlook how rarely considerations of ethics are allowed to interfere with power politics, but , y'know, it would be nice if it happened from time to time, as a treat.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 24 May 2025 18:38 (one month ago)

The one thing I would never criticize is leaving the Senate group chat - can you imagine the shit they complain about on a daily basis? How many times has Klobuchar tried to get a barista fired for not using enough creamer?

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Saturday, 24 May 2025 18:42 (one month ago)

Can someone explain to me how being a moody, self-aggrandizing shitbag who has difficulty performing even routine life tasks makes John Fetterman an outlier in the US Senate?

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 24 May 2025 18:54 (one month ago)

There’s actually a senators’ group chat? (Couldn’t read the article) That sounds brutal.

tobo73, Saturday, 24 May 2025 18:57 (one month ago)

it's a Dem caucus chat apparently. and Fetterman says it's mostly happy birthday messages and emoji.

jaymc, Saturday, 24 May 2025 19:01 (one month ago)

Right-wing maniac Sohrab Ahmari goes after his peers in a long Bluesky thread:

The entire Right gets on my nerves more often than not

In a way that's hard to pinpoint down to one cause and isn't reducible to Trump (who's doing some reasonable things and some terrible things).

Other factors:

1. The rise of racism, esp. the IQ/eugenic variety. Always there, now *overt*.

2. The dominance of comedians and weightlifting bros -- semi-literate morons discovering Holocaust revisionism for the first time. "Bro, like, whoa, what if like, bro?"

3. AI nostalgia and AI slop: images of Brighton with no black people ("remember when England was England?").

4. The sheer boring-ness. Yes, the identitarian left/woke/whatever you call it was a problem. But it's been in recession since 2022. I can't keep getting worked up about it.

5. The plague of crackpottery and nuttery in re: medicine and science. And again, I see how the pandemic overreach of a censorious establishment contributed to this. But at some point, blaming that becomes an excuse not to confront the epistemic crisis that is afoot now.

6. Oh, and everything is "Communism." Academic Marxists indoctrinating the kids!

So fucking tiresome. Total neoliberal dominance at the universities. There's one Marxist maybe in the econ or history department whose colleagues treat her as an oddity. What are you talking about--"Marxism"?

6(a).

The Davos overclass and the largest corporations in the world are "Marxist," too!

7. The general plague of esoterica and paranoid gnosis.

No, sorry, you fucking morons, World War II is the most studied event in history. Some dude looking into his shaky selfie camera will not, in fact, make a novel contribution to our understanding of it.

8. Laziness in the professional and intellectual classes on the Right. I've warned about this for YEARS.

"Oh you don't like The Atlantic or The New Yorker? Fine, *you* pick up the phone and do gumshoe reporting like they do!"

But no, the young Right all want to be the next loudmouth.

"Reporting": Wear a fitted red dress, get a blow-out, and talk to Left-wing protesters on campus, catching some of them saying crazy shit. For TV networks that increasingly resemble the Right-wing-TV parodies in Paul Verhoeven dystopias.

9. There are some serious writers, thinkers and scholars on the Right.

But much more prevalent and powerful is this vast apparatus of shitty think tanks, all with names like "the Thatcher Center for Liberty at the Foundation for Freedom" whose sole purpose is to churn out donor-slop.

10. These "scholars" don't actually *read* anything outside their own narrow shelf of approved canonical texts.

They opine on "Marxism" without having read anything beyond the Manifesto. "Everything I don't like is Marxism" because they barely understand Marxism.

11. And there are always more young people in the pipeline. Sorry, but some of them are just failed academics (these exist on the Left, too, to be sure).

You got a PhD, didn't get a job, but luckily, the Thatcher Center for Low Taxes and Usurious Interest Rates is there to pick up your pieces.

12. The Right's cancel culture is brutal and ironclad. People don't realize this because the Right's mechanisms for disciplining its own are less visible than the Left's.

They don't involve swarms of people attacking you online.

It's the donor making a quiet phone call to cut you off.

13. Speaking of: the monarchy of philistine donors. The liberal establishment has self-interested plutocrats, too, don't get me wrong. But these get the value of cultivating people and institutions for their own sake, even if they sometimes say and do things that displease the moneyed class. On the Right, you have much less generosity of spirit of this kind.

"I give you money to promote two things: legalized gambling in New York State; and good old family values like low marginal taxes."

That's it. If you fuck around slightly, the quiet phone call will end you.

13 (explained). I think this partly happened as the GOP turned away from the New Deal post-Nixon, with the result that Democrats came to be seen as the party of *governance*, which most capital prefers.

So the Dems have (or had) such a large plurality of capital that not one sector could dominate.

14 (conclusion):

This is a kind of pastiche or composite portrait of the Right today. Not all of these elements are ever found in the same entity, or at least, not to the same degree.

The John Paul II Center for Low Taxes and Crushing My Firm's Union won't, obviously, promote Holocaust denial.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 24 May 2025 19:12 (one month ago)

🛢️🦀🛢️

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 24 May 2025 19:28 (one month ago)

Sorry Sohrab, you did sign up for it actually.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 May 2025 19:42 (one month ago)

That reads like he just got struck by lightning.

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 24 May 2025 20:23 (one month ago)

Yes, the identitarian left/woke/whatever you call it was a problem

idk who he but what a pathetic heinous loser

nashwan, Saturday, 24 May 2025 20:33 (one month ago)

just like Hanania, he is opportunistically positioning himself to get people to keep paying attention to him

jaymc, Saturday, 24 May 2025 20:50 (one month ago)

Point 2 seems like the real issue - racism and reaction should be scientific, coming from a learned elite and not from essential oil moms and carnivore diet dads.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Saturday, 24 May 2025 21:13 (one month ago)

Yes, the identitarian left/woke/whatever you call it was a problem

I'd love it if people who say this shit gave examples of how it was a problem in their own lives. It's always a problem out there somewhere that they heard about on television or the internet, or it's a problem because it doesn't fit into their theory of society.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 24 May 2025 21:39 (one month ago)

It made me have to think about things I didn't want to think about and treat a bunch of NPCs like real people.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Sunday, 25 May 2025 00:17 (one month ago)

Many xps but just tbc I shared the Fetterman excerpt about the group chat not to criticize him for leaving it but just to note that he couldn’t figure out how to turn off notifications (and seems to have too much of an ego, or something, to just ask one of his aides how to do it)

Re: Sohrab Amari screed, I don’t know thing one about this guy, he might be as deplorable as they come and someone you’d never want as an ally, but that whole diatribe has a distinct parallel to when we see guys like Greenwald or whoever griping about the left as a predictable step on the march right. There’s much to roll eyes at in his premises but I gotta say it is refreshing to see someone feeling alienated by their camp in the opposite direction, feel like you almost never see it

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 25 May 2025 12:45 (one month ago)

I'd love it if people who say this shit gave examples of how it was a problem in their own lives.

it's usually being denied the right to watch amos & andy or something

brimstead, Sunday, 25 May 2025 15:45 (one month ago)

https://www.gelliottmorris.com/p/what-do-disengaged-voters-think-about

the vibes-based political system giveth, the vibes-based political system taketh

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Sunday, 25 May 2025 16:15 (one month ago)

This is the story of the disengaged voter: why they showed up for Trump, why they’re turning on him now

The fly in that ointment is that once an election is over it doesn't matter a damn if normally disengaged non-voters turn against Trump now. He's in office. He doesn't need them any more and doesn't care. And even though Republicans in Congress will fret about Trump's wreckage creating a 'reverse coattails' effect on their re-elections, they will fall in line behind him even if it leaves behind a smoking ruin of a country.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 25 May 2025 17:58 (one month ago)

it's a Dem caucus chat apparently. and Fetterman says it's mostly happy birthday messages and emoji.

― jaymc, Saturday, May 24, 2025 12:01 PM (yesterday

That sounds super annoying tbh. This actually makes me like him lol.

sarahell, Sunday, 25 May 2025 18:28 (one month ago)

But also unperson otm .. . I mean, is it worse to be a no-show than to show up and sleep through things or grandstand about bullshit?

sarahell, Sunday, 25 May 2025 18:31 (one month ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/23/veterans-affairs-doge-musk

The musk and Trump damaged status of the Veterans administration on Memorial Day

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 May 2025 16:27 (one month ago)

Not gonna post that insane Trump truth social Memorial Day post

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 May 2025 16:31 (one month ago)

https://www.wola.org/analysis/160-billion-to-detain-and-deport-congresss-reconciliation-bill-is-a-betrayal-of-priorities-and-will-harm-the-most-vulnerable/

One of the many dangerous items in that House reconciliation bill now being considered by the Senate

4. $16.2 billion to hire new ICE, CBP, and Border Patrol agents.
This includes $8 billion to hire 10,000 new ICE personnel; $4.1 billion to hire 3,000 new Border Patrol agents, 5,000 CBP Office of Field Operations Officers, 200 new Air and Marine Operations agents, and 290 support staff; $2.05 billion for CBP retention bonuses and signing incentives; $860 million for bonuses to recruit and retain ICE personnel; $600 million for ICE hiring capacity; and $600 million for for CBP recruitment and vetting.
How much is $16.2 billion? Adjusted for inflation, it would be:
Enough to build the Hoover Dam 16 times ($49 million in 1931 dollars).
Nearly identical to the amount the UN World Food Program says it needs “to address the humanitarian needs of 123 million vulnerable people in 2025” ($16.9 billion).
Enough to build New York’s original World Trade Center 6 times ($400 million in 1973 dollars).
Enough to build its replacement, the One World Trade Center “Freedom Tower,” 4 times ($3.9 billion in 2014 dollars).

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 May 2025 20:11 (one month ago)

When is infrastructure week again?

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Monday, 26 May 2025 21:12 (one month ago)

Hey man, every good dictator got to have a Gestapo/Stasi.

earlnash, Monday, 26 May 2025 21:31 (one month ago)

hmmf…really thought we’d get a reprise of his famous “never fight uphill, me boys” speech at some point this weekend

henry s, Monday, 26 May 2025 23:13 (one month ago)

When is infrastructure week again?

It's always weak

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 26 May 2025 23:29 (one month ago)

XP Epitomizing the lazy dagf cruelness of the Trump II experience, he wore a MAGA cap with his suit, he bitched about trophy wives during the speech, said nobody signed up for the military during the Biden administration (this whole class joined during the Biden administration) and wandered off to his memecoin dinner without shaking hands with any of the graduates.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 26 May 2025 23:48 (one month ago)

Speaking of the memecoin dinner, I'm not sure how valid this is, but I saw a report from a anonymous attendee who complained about "Walmart-quality steaks" and that they didn't even get to meet 45/7.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 26 May 2025 23:53 (one month ago)

plenty of citations here: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/trump-crypto-dinner-1235347312/

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 00:42 (one month ago)

trump only rolling out to do a little dance and then give some canned remarks after these guys paid a bunch is par for the course. maybe a few will get preferential treatment if they get dragged into court, maybe not? the admin’s great about forgetting people or backstabbing

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 00:44 (one month ago)

Those dudes are nothing but marks. They will be receiving lots of very personal emails from various Trumps about exciting investment opportunities.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 01:40 (one month ago)

I hear there's a bridge I can buy

sleeve, Tuesday, 27 May 2025 01:45 (one month ago)

Those dudes are nothing but marks. They will be receiving lots of very personal emails from various Trumps about exciting investment opportunities.


I can get behind the trump crime family cultivating rich dopes for eventual pig butchering but sadly that’s not what’s happening because that would take too much effort

That Pedo Band (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 02:19 (one month ago)

also they are all rich dopes themselves, professional courtesy, etc

conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 09:12 (one month ago)

misallocation of capital is the life force of capitalism

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 16:47 (one month ago)

Another day another million dollars:

Still, weeks went by and no pardon was forthcoming, even as Mr. Trump issued clemency grants to hundreds of other allies.

Then, Ms. Fago was invited to a $1-million-per-person fund-raising dinner last month that promised face-to-face access to Mr. Trump at his private Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Fla.

Less than three weeks after she attended the dinner, Mr. Trump signed a full and unconditional pardon.

It came just in the nick of time for Mr. Walczak, sparing him from having to pay nearly $4.4 million in restitution and from reporting to prison for an 18-month sentence that had been handed down just 12 days earlier. A judge had justified the incarceration by declaring that there “is not a get-out-of-jail-free card” for the rich.

Gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/27/us/politics/trump-pardon-paul-walczak-tax-crimes.html?unlocked_article_code=1.KU8.j-JI.HlbTf5lUKEpj&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 17:04 (one month ago)

He can’t be bought!

That Pedo Band (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 17:12 (one month ago)

But he has some very enticing rent-to-own terms.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 17:17 (one month ago)

Oh hey speaking of corruption and pardons:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/27/trump-pardons-former-virginia-sheriff-bribery

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 18:47 (one month ago)

Surprised Trump pardoned him instead of criticizing his cheap the guy sold himself for

That Pedo Band (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 19:17 (one month ago)

How cheap

That Pedo Band (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 19:17 (one month ago)

always bears a reminder: accepting a pardon is a de facto admission of guilt

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 May 2025 19:27 (one month ago)

already convicted and sentenced so the admission of guilt was the least of their worries

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 20:08 (one month ago)

does a pardon expunge the crime or merely prevent one from doing the time?

henry s, Tuesday, 27 May 2025 20:47 (one month ago)

A pardon expunges the crime. A commutation prevents you from doing jail time.

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 20:49 (one month ago)

Which is why Kushner's convict dad can be an ambassador now.

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 20:50 (one month ago)

Tommy Tuberville announces Alabama Gubernatorial run

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/27/tommy-tuberville-alabama-governor-00371318

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 21:17 (one month ago)

Fine. Get him out of Washington

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 May 2025 21:19 (one month ago)

nick saban has a chance to do the funniest thing

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 21:32 (one month ago)

Wasn't it Kurt Vonnegut who said we will eventually have a president nicknamed "Coach"?

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zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 21:59 (one month ago)

Saban was friends with Manchin, I figured he could run for President as a Dem and win 2/3 of the states with SEC schools. The last time I saw him in the news though he was kissing Trump's ass because he's so offended by NIL money.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 22:30 (one month ago)

RFKJ positively giddy over revoking the CDC covid booster recommendation for children & pregnant women

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 May 2025 23:53 (one month ago)

It makes me sick with rage.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 00:06 (one month ago)

well, it's completely unprecedented for an HHS secretary to override CDC guidelines, so it might just be hot air

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 28 May 2025 00:10 (one month ago)

but there's still a chance that insurers will jump on this opportunity to deny coverage

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 28 May 2025 00:13 (one month ago)

I feel pretty certain this will happen.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 00:23 (one month ago)

Currently enjoying my third bout of Covid, which cut short a trip I'd been looking forward to. This one is mostly like a medium-bad cold, I haven't had any fever. But not fun obviously and I'm bummed about the stuff we had to cancel. (To be fair, I picked up this case last week from going to an AC/DC concert in Nashville, which is certainly a caveat emptor situation.) But anyway, I haven't had any Covid infection in two years, which means most immunity I have is most certainly from the booster I got last fall. I'm 55 and I guess under the new guidelines I won't be "recommended" to get the next one. Totally infuriating. I'm hoping my doctor will approve on the basis of me spending a lot of time with my octogenarian parents.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 00:42 (one month ago)

I got a booster last week a little earlier than planned since I live with a mother with cancer.

I am hoping I can get it in the fall due to comorbidities but if not this at least buys me time

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 28 May 2025 01:06 (one month ago)

Yeah there’s a bout of Covid going around here too

That Pedo Band (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 02:17 (one month ago)

I still have trouble wrapping my head around everything, it's just all so bleak. Like being slapped in the face with bleakness every hour.

California immediately (effectively) capitulated on the trans athlete thing. Children being deported to die. Migrants doing it "the right way" and still getting deported from their check-ins, only to be ping-ponged around the country so they can't be contacted. Open and naked corruption without even a whiff of consequence. RFKJ killing thousands.

This is just, normal? Or, at least, normalized.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 13:50 (one month ago)

I don't know if it's normal, but it is clearly what Republicans have been craving

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 13:55 (one month ago)

But if there is effectively zero pushback, it kinda is normal? I mean, yes, this administration has lost many court cases. But while that's good news for some of the most directly impacted by those specific folks involve, it clearly hasn't altered the admin's approach or cruelty even a bit.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 13:59 (one month ago)

Pushback from whom? It should be obvious by now that Democrats are mostly not interested in fighting any of this. The only pushback that is going to come is from regular people.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 14:08 (one month ago)

M. Gessen today on the normalization — not happy reading. (gift link below)

I’ve reported on many wars, and I’ve seen how they come to feel routine — to the people living through them, the people reporting on them and the people reading about them. Wars have a limited repertoire: bombings, shellings, offensives, counteroffensives, body counts. After the initial shock, few people keep track of the shifting front line.

Even Israel’s massacre in Gaza, which makes Russia’s warfare in Ukraine look restrained, can’t produce new headlines after more than 19 months of indiscriminate bombing and warfare by starvation. It is news when two Israeli Embassy employees are murdered in Washington, D.C. But when entire Palestinian families are killed, or when Palestinian children die of malnutrition, it’s just another day in Gaza. Nor is it news that the U.S. government is indifferent to war crimes committed by its allies.

In this country, too, fewer and fewer things can surprise us. Once you’ve absorbed the shock of deportations to El Salvador, plans to deport people to South Sudan aren’t that remarkable. Once you’ve wrapped your mind around the Trump administration’s revoking the legal status of individual international students, a blanket ban on international enrollment at Harvard isn’t entirely unexpected.

Once you’ve realized that the administration is intent on driving thousands of trans people out of the U.S. military, a ban on Medicaid coverage for gender-affirming care, which could have devastating effects for hundreds of thousands, just becomes more of the same. As in a country at war, reports of human tragedy and extreme cruelty have become routine — not news.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/28/opinion/trump-danger-normalization-shock.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Kk8.s3qQ.0WjO89gTWxve&smid=url-share

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 14:11 (one month ago)

Pushback from whom? It should be obvious by now that Democrats are mostly not interested in fighting any of this. The only pushback that is going to come is from regular people.

Of course this is obvious, which is why I said the admin isn't seeing any pushback.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 14:13 (one month ago)

the point is, if you want to see pushback, you have to be the person pushing back

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 14:23 (one month ago)

I'm trying what I can, doesn't seem to be doing fuck all.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 14:27 (one month ago)

Again, volunteer at a soup kitchen or food pantry (or donate money to same), work on stuff in your own neighborhood and community. This is where change and strength comes from, not from trusting any politician to do the right thing— as I have said before, a majority of politicians are narcissistic sociopaths and we cannot put our faith and trust in them at all, ever.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 14:29 (one month ago)

yes, shrink your sphere of concern and act locally

sleeve, Wednesday, 28 May 2025 14:30 (one month ago)

My local Dem club hasn't done much since November, but in the three meetings since Election Day it's often enough just to get talk shit out with normal humans in the flesh with a couple guest speakers as an excuse for the meeting.

tipsy otm. If you're helping another person, you're helping yourself.

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 14:31 (one month ago)

table, sleeve and Alfred otm of course. and I am doing what I can locally, it just feels futile some days. like we are so far away from any kind of critical mass to really shift the needle.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 14:40 (one month ago)

The left needs snipers.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 14:41 (one month ago)

and how would you feel about a few suicide bombers to go with?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 17:39 (one month ago)

we are so far away from any kind of critical mass to really shift the needle

which is the difficulty for any political mass movement. they are only created and sustained by people who don't give up because they are motivated internally, not by hope, but by a need to act regardless of the meagerness of their hope. it's like planting sequoias in a clear cut.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 17:48 (one month ago)

The left needs snipers leaders.

There are tons of people doing good work all over the place, but very little grand vision or organizing. The AOC/Bernie tour was well and good, and both of them are good figures — and mayyyyybe AOC has what it takes to build and sustain a movement. Bernie both did and didn't, but in case he's no face of the future. But it doesn't have to be people in elected office, obviously, or not only that. The pieces that came together to make MAGA mostly pre-existed Trump's rise, but it took him as a galvanizing force to bring them together.

I don't know where that comes from, it's not something that can be engineered exactly, and certainly not focus-grouped. Those kinds of leaders will of course face resistance from the status quotidians, that's just something you have to assume. Trump did, too. You don't know who that is or how it will happen. BUT the day to day and week to week work at local and state levels is important because leaders can't emerge in a vacuum, they emerge from that work and that work ensures there are people and infrastructure to support them.

(I do think the idea of leaderless collectives on the left is not super helpful in all of this, or is at least inherently limited in what it can achieve.)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 18:06 (one month ago)

...in any case he's no face of the future.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 18:06 (one month ago)

Australian Labor just got a 21 year old union organiser elected to the senate. She was put in the supposedly unsinkable or at least unlikely third spot on the south Australian ticket, but the liberals were so hopeless across the board that she got in. The lower spots on the tickets are often given to young people to boost the campaign and to give them experience of campaigning.

Sure there’s many many other things wrong with the system but the fact you can’t even run for senate until you’re 35 and many presidents come from the senate reinforces the gerontocracy. All our recent promoters have been off and consulting for defence contractors or directing hedge funds before they were 65 most before they were 60.

Ed, Wednesday, 28 May 2025 18:36 (one month ago)

Senate literally means "old guys"

zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 18:47 (one month ago)

having functional unions would be nice to build on. My wife and I are trying to help organize our workplace (she's more successful, having had activism experience).

That Pedo Band (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 20:57 (one month ago)

Yeah, I think there is tremendous need for and political power in new labor movements.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 21:07 (one month ago)

Just doing stuff with other people builds your ability to call them up to respond to developing issues in your community, as an example! It's all worthwhile even if it seems small. Talk about your values, ask people if they're doing okay. I have a muddled mess of thoughts about "leaderless/leaderfull" groups but you don't need to have all that figured out to just pick a task and get to know some people.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 21:38 (one month ago)

I've been having this thought because people with any kind of non-citizen immigration status are obviously getting more and more concerned about engaging with systems, even totally unconnected non-governmental ones that don't have any formal documentation--just being in a place can be enough to get caught up by Ice or CBP or whoever. Food pantries are seeing big hits on attendance from people who need resources the most.

I've been wondering if it would be useful for people to quietly volunteer to pick up food on someone else's behalf and deliver it, very very discreetly and without telling anyone what they were doing. Just really quietly.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 21:43 (one month ago)

There's a group in Nashville doing more or less that for families and people affected by the recent ICE raids, which a.) needs donations! and b.) is being targeted for federal investigation by one of our worst MAGA congressmen.

https://www.wkrn.com/news/local-news/nashville/immigrant-rights-groups-respond-to-tn-congressmans-call-for-federal-investigation-into-nashville-mayors-office/

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 21:56 (one month ago)

Providing food to people in need should not be a federal crime, but maybe threatening and intimidating people who provide food to others in need should be a federal crime.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 22:00 (one month ago)

Oh I wouldn't talk about it or publicize it, or even seek funding etc. I just meant going to a food pantry and picking up food for people--lots of people pick up food for others who are homebound or elderly, for instance. But doing it so someone else doesn't have to.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 22:17 (one month ago)

I don't mind saying it because I'm not doing it, if I were going to do it I definitely wouldn't talk about it on the internet.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 22:20 (one month ago)

In orbit you could volunteer at a food pantry they may appreciate it! It may also be easier to implement your idea.

That Pedo Band (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 22:41 (one month ago)

Relevant to the thread title, a story about a Hong Kong-born woman who lived in a small Missouri town for 20 years before being arrested and detained last month: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/28/us/missouri-immigrant-trump.html

Ms. Hui’s detention has forced a rural Missouri county to face the fallout of President Trump’s immigration crackdown, which was supported in theory by many residents in this Trump-loving corner of an increasingly red America.

Many are now asking how you can support Carol and also Mr. Trump.

“I voted for Donald Trump, and so did practically everyone here,” said Vanessa Cowart, a friend of Ms. Hui from church. “But no one voted to deport moms. We were all under the impression we were just getting rid of the gangs, the people who came here in droves.”

She paused. “This is Carol.”

Adam Squires, a onetime candidate for mayor of Kennett, saw it differently. He did not bear any ill will for Ms. Hui, he said, but he voted for Mr. Trump, as did 80 percent of voters in Dunklin County, and he was glad to see the deportation campaign reach home.

“They vote for Trump, and then they get mad because the stuff starts happening,” he said of his neighbors. “We’ve got to get rid of all the illegals. This is just a start.”

jaymc, Wednesday, 28 May 2025 22:53 (one month ago)

xp That's a good idea, I agree! I work and volunteer with food pantries who are reporting falling numbers and we know that doesn't match the growing need. :((((( People are scared.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 22:54 (one month ago)

We were all under the impression we were just getting rid of the gangs

because that's what they said they'd do... but this administration can't be trusted in anything

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 28 May 2025 22:57 (one month ago)

xp to jaymc I saw my parents this past weekend. They have mostly "liberal" friends but run into Trump people occasionally in their community. My dad said it's not possible to be angry forever with 48% of our fellow Americans, to which I say hold my Vernors. There should be a social cost for believing that other people don't matter and can be sacrificed for profit.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 23:00 (one month ago)

The "I didn't think Trump was gonna deport my immigrant neighbors" stuff is especially infuriating to me. You might not have been worried about that, but I'm pretty damn sure your immigrant neighbors were! Like how tf is someone a "valued member" of your small close-knit community where "everyone knows everyone" and yet you never bothered to learn anything about their life, how they see the world, their challenges, their hopes and fears?

Regretful MAGA voters: I'm not a dick so I won't belabor the point, but I'm gonna need y'all to be harder on yourselves.

You're supposed to go to Heaven, ideally not Las Vegas (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 23:27 (one month ago)

I've had a growing disgust for Trump voters in general... you can hem & haw about your motivations, but we wouldn't be in this mess if he'd been soundly defeated and send back to Mar-a-Lagoo

NOTHING good has come out of this, and Trump voters are to blame

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 28 May 2025 23:31 (one month ago)

“I voted for Donald Trump, and so did practically everyone here,” said Vanessa Cowart, a friend of Ms. Hui from church. “But no one voted to deport moms. We were all under the impression we were just getting rid of the gangs, the people who came here in droves.”

She paused. “This is Carol.”

We should be allowed to smack people like this with a rolled up newspaper.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Wednesday, 28 May 2025 23:36 (one month ago)

"I didn't think Trump was gonna deport my immigrant neighbors"

"I thought Trump was gonna deport someone else's immigrant neighbors"

nickn, Thursday, 29 May 2025 00:29 (four weeks ago)

Adam Squires, a onetime candidate for mayor of Kennett, saw it differently. He did not bear any ill will for Ms. Hui, he said, but he voted for Mr. Trump, as did 80 percent of voters in Dunklin County, and he was glad to see the deportation campaign reach home.

“They vote for Trump, and then they get mad because the stuff starts happening,” he said of his neighbors. “We’ve got to get rid of all the illegals. This is just a start.”

as with pretty much all of rural missouri i’ve experienced directly, the bootheel is completely fucked up

z_tbd, Thursday, 29 May 2025 00:38 (four weeks ago)

this bromance has sailed

Elon Musk is leaving the Trump administration after criticizing president's 'big beautiful bill'

“As my scheduled time as a Special Government Employee comes to an end, I would like to thank President @realDonaldTrump for the opportunity to reduce wasteful spending,” he wrote. “The @DOGE mission will only strengthen over time as it becomes a way of life throughout the government.”

A White House official, who requested anonymity to talk about the change, confirmed that Musk was leaving.

Musk's departure comes one day after he criticized the centerpiece of Trump’s legislative agenda, saying he was “disappointed” by what the president calls his “big beautiful bill.”

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 May 2025 00:44 (four weeks ago)

^^^^ this comes as a judge said he must face a lawsuit over executive overreach, i.e. wielding cabinet-level powers without congressional confirmation

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 May 2025 00:48 (four weeks ago)

just getting rid of the gangs, the people who came here in droves

funnily enough the "here" she was mentioning was not the town she lived in, but was no place that she ever knew, saw, or understood.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 29 May 2025 01:00 (four weeks ago)

And of course they didn’t know or believe that the Biden admin was deporting people in record numbers.

That Pedo Band (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 29 May 2025 01:27 (four weeks ago)

I saw my parents this past weekend. They have mostly "liberal" friends but run into Trump people occasionally in their community. My dad said it's not possible to be angry forever with 48% of our fellow Americans, to which I say hold my Vernors

My mom lives in a place like that, and she has friends that are “probably” Trump people and she just tries to have this dual consciousness about it. She also is afraid of them. I think that’s a lot of why she made a “local” version of my dad’s obituary which omitted his belief in DEI in education and added a sentence about being proud of his military service. The version that went to their hometown paper (a more liberal place) was the way I wrote it.

sarahell, Thursday, 29 May 2025 02:36 (four weeks ago)

Damage that Musk caused -

Trump and DOGE have managed to cut nearly 12%, or 260,000, of the 2.3 million-strong federal civilian workforce largely through threats of firings, buyouts and early retirement offers, a Reuters review of agency departures found.
At the same time, DOGE has hit a number of roadblocks, with federal courts at times propping back up agencies shortly after DOGE had moved to eliminate them. In some cases, staff and funding cuts have led to purchasing bottlenecks, increased costs and a brain drain of scientific and technological talent.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/elon-musk-leaving-trump-administration-white-house-official-confirms-2025-05-29/

And while he got lawsuits against his companies dropped and got more more contracts , NY Times reports he's mad he didn't get one -

He complained to administration officials about a lucrative deal that went to a rival company to build an artificial-intelligence data center in the Middle East.

Doge is also still causing trouble even without Musk-

several of Mr. Musk’s most prominent deputies appear to be ensconced in their new government roles. Steve Davis, a loyal executive who has worked for Mr. Musk across many of his businesses, including at X, remains a regular presence at the General Services Administration, according to two people who have interacted with him recently. Antonio Gracias, the billionaire investor, has transitioned from leading the DOGE team at the Social Security Administration to a role combing through federal databases to try to identify instances of foreign nationals voting illegally, according to people familiar with the effort

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/28/us/politics/elon-musk-trump-doge.html

curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 May 2025 10:15 (four weeks ago)

I certainly hope that karma is real, and not just for the former “head” of DOGE.

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 May 2025 10:55 (four weeks ago)

I love it

Republican Iowa congresswoman booed at town hall over Trump policies

Constituents booed Republican congresswoman Ashley Hinson at a town hall in her Iowa district Wednesday when she praised Donald Trump’s tax-and-spending plan and spoke approvingly of the “department of government efficiency’s” (Doge) efforts to downsize the federal government...

Hinson drew a chorus of boos when she told the audience in the town of Decorah that she was “proud” to have voted for the bill. “This is your time,” she said over the din. A similar outburst occurred from the audience at mention of Doge, which Hinson said she had received positive feedback about during an event elsewhere.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 May 2025 17:14 (four weeks ago)

Decorah is home to an ELCA Lutheran college so maybe not representative of her district.

That Pedo Band (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 29 May 2025 18:19 (four weeks ago)

at mention of Doge, which Hinson said she had received positive feedback about during an event elsewhere.

It was a crowd from Canada. You wouldn't know them.

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 May 2025 18:29 (four weeks ago)

A call from within the house (if you follow me): it somehow manages to get more and more stressful every fucking week.

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 May 2025 18:32 (four weeks ago)

Can only imagine. :(

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 May 2025 18:41 (four weeks ago)

Decorah is home to an ELCA Lutheran college so maybe not representative of her district.

― That Pedo Band (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, May 29, 2025 11:19 AM (twenty-six minutes ago)

I've been to Decorah and it is indeed a blue dot in a sea of red.

imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 29 May 2025 18:46 (four weeks ago)

Sorry Raymond. Took the VSIP in April.

Heez, Thursday, 29 May 2025 18:48 (four weeks ago)

has this been covered yet? completely unsurprising but...

Robert F Kennedy Jr’s flagship health commission report contains citations to studies that do not exist, according to an investigation by the US publication Notus.

The report exposes glaring scientific failures from a health secretary who earlier this week threatened to ban government scientists from publishing in leading medical journals.

The 73-page “Make America healthy again” report – which was commissioned by the Trump administration to examine the causes of chronic illness, and which Kennedy promoted it as “gold-standard” science backed by more than 500 citations – includes references to seven studies that appear to be entirely invented, and others that the researchers say have been mischaracterized.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 May 2025 19:08 (four weeks ago)

Need more of this. Annie Andrews launch video for her senate campaign in SC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8wMNLaSNW4

that's not my post, Thursday, 29 May 2025 19:10 (four weeks ago)

Would be nice if the doc's common sense campaign can beat Lindsay Graham's incumbent culture wars one in SC

curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 May 2025 19:32 (four weeks ago)

Meanwhile another issue goes to court -

The Justice Department asked a federal court of appeals Thursday to stay the decision that halted many of President Donald Trump’s recently imposed tariffs. If the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit does not stay the ruling, the administration plans to go to the Supreme Court on Friday to ask for emergency relief, it said. During a briefing Thursday, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt derided the decision halting tariffs as “judicial overreach” and said it was part of “a troubling and dangerous trend of unelected judges inserting themselves into the presidential decision-making process

curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 May 2025 19:33 (four weeks ago)

And now Rubio is basically enacting some kind of Chinese Exclusion Act? that's a real throwback, to when America was Great I guess

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 May 2025 19:34 (four weeks ago)

More of this too! Deja Foxx-Candidate for House AZ-7

https://bsky.app/profile/cattyjargon.fairy.blue/post/3lqdfequx622z

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 29 May 2025 19:35 (four weeks ago)

wow she's a badass

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 May 2025 19:40 (four weeks ago)

Ooooh interesting! The poetry slam-esque diction and emphasis is going to take me a sec but that's on me.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 29 May 2025 19:43 (four weeks ago)

that Annie Andrews clip is good as well

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 May 2025 19:45 (four weeks ago)

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit has temporarily reinstated Trump’s tariffs, pausing a lower court ruling that had blocked them

curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 May 2025 19:51 (four weeks ago)

*wriggle*

sleeve, Thursday, 29 May 2025 19:52 (four weeks ago)

Dr. Andrews seems like a good counter to Graham, who is looking for her votes in the right places. It would be good if she could make a lot of personal appearances in small towns and rural spots to do a lot of retail politics and not just run a media-heavy campaign. I'm not sure Graham is vulnerable, though. He may be an unprincipled weather vane but he does know which way the wind blows in his favor.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 29 May 2025 20:16 (four weeks ago)

It's like the world's dumbest science thought experiment, Schrödinger's idiot. Does a tariff actually exist if is paused while being reinstated? How about blocked but not paused? Paused and not reinstated?

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 May 2025 20:18 (four weeks ago)

he's so stupid and full of himself he doesn't realize the courts stopping the tariffs would probably end up helping him

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 29 May 2025 20:23 (four weeks ago)

^^^ this! It an easy off ramp for a self-inflicted wound, and then he can blame the 'unelected deep state judges' at the same time... win/win

But yeah, he's too fucking stupid to see this opportunity

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 May 2025 20:25 (four weeks ago)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-admin-deports-2-year-old-girl-who-is-american-citizen/

Doing gods work

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 29 May 2025 22:44 (four weeks ago)

Maybe the real black helicopter conspiracy plot was the chuds we suffered along the way

(I know that none of this is actually funny - it’s horrible - but that was a way to burn off an especially bleak mood this week)

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 May 2025 22:56 (four weeks ago)

The Nazification of the State Department continues apace.

https://www.thehandbasket.co/p/state-department-office-of-remigration

While these plans align with Trump’s open objective of expelling as many migrants from the United States as possible, the use of the word “remigration” is particularly striking as it’s widely used by far-right extremists in Europe.

Just last week, approximately 400 far-right activists—including a former Trump-endorsed GOP state legislative candidate from Michigan—gathered in Italy to specifically discuss remigration. Per one news report, “Flemish nationalist Dries Van Langenhove -- who has been sentenced to a year in prison for denying the Holocaust -- quoted Hungarian Premier Viktor Orban and asked participants to chant the slogan ‘Save our nation, remigration’.”

According to a post about the summit on the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism’s website, “Remigration is rooted in the thoroughly de-bunked white supremacist ‘Great Replacement’ conspiracy theory, which purports a planned ‘replacement’ of white people by politicians and other ‘elites.’ Jews are often targeted as driving this ‘plan.’”

They continued: “Remigration is a series of policy proposals, drafted by Austrian Identitarian and former neo-Nazi Martin Sellner, to end the so-called ‘replacement’ by purging the continent of non-white people and eliminating all forms of multiculturalism. The goal is to make countries ‘European again.’”

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 May 2025 23:53 (four weeks ago)

Honestly I'm shocked they haven't just started calling it "expulsion."

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 29 May 2025 23:57 (four weeks ago)

The goal is to make countries ‘European again.

Well, it's true that for a long time European countries were embarked on a centuries long project of subjugating, exploiting and wreaking massive harm on non-white people, so that description of their goal would fit, in a very depressing way.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 30 May 2025 00:01 (four weeks ago)

Meanwhile, is the gutting of Medicaid by House Republicans finally the big reveal for Trump's "concept of a plan" to, uh, fix the ACA?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 30 May 2025 16:56 (four weeks ago)

somebody has been spending a little too much time with sufjan's 10th anniversary

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GsNpxyqWYAAM--3?format=png&name=medium

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 May 2025 17:25 (four weeks ago)

I really hope nobody jumps in with 'we are all going to die' as June's thread title -- it cuts a little too deeply

WmC, Friday, 30 May 2025 17:35 (four weeks ago)

There was a lot of that during COVID too. How quickly people were ready to sacrifice other people's lives for their own convenience was pretty eye-opening to me, tho nothing about it should have been surprising. Like, not just strangers but their own family members. They really just don't understand compassion, it's not part of the way they see the world.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 30 May 2025 17:38 (four weeks ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04x7LVssoow

it's a pretty good jam though

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Friday, 30 May 2025 17:38 (four weeks ago)

This one too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_oqQ0evQ0U

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 30 May 2025 17:42 (four weeks ago)

We're all going to die anyway, so might as well die of preventable and/or curable illnesses so we can cut taxes for the wealthy

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 30 May 2025 17:46 (four weeks ago)

Give me convenience or give me death

That Pedo Band (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 30 May 2025 17:51 (four weeks ago)

"If they would rather die, they had better do it and decrease the surplus population" iirc

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 30 May 2025 17:57 (four weeks ago)

We value convenience so highly that we have stores selling just that

zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 30 May 2025 18:04 (four weeks ago)

looks like they're rooting out any remaining Great Society programs

The Department of Labor announced this week it will pause operations at Job Corps centers nationwide, a move that has already gotten pushback from both sides of the aisle on Capitol Hill.

The department said Thursday it will begin a “phased pause” initiating “an orderly transition for students, staff, and local communities.” The pause will occur by June 30, the office said.

“We remain committed to ensuring all participants are supported through this transition and connected with the resources they need to succeed as we evaluate the program’s possibilities.”

Job Corps, established as part of the Economic Opportunity Act of 1964, is a free residential education and job training program for low-income people between 16 and 24 years of age.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 30 May 2025 18:08 (four weeks ago)

Most importantly, Job Corps exists by law and is funded through Congress. It's yet another case (out of dozens in the past three months) that Trump has zero intention to uphold his oath to "faithfully execute" the laws of the land and preserve, protect and defend the constitution. Literally every one of these instances is impeachable.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 30 May 2025 18:13 (four weeks ago)

Give me my betters convenience or and give me death

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 30 May 2025 19:04 (four weeks ago)

maybe the reason they want to kill off Job Corps is so they have a greater pool of unskilled workers for the chicken processing plants graveyard shifts, after the mass deportations

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 30 May 2025 19:08 (four weeks ago)

(not that chicken processing is 'unskilled')

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 30 May 2025 19:09 (four weeks ago)

whatever bro, no one cares anymore

Trump says he is doubling tariffs on imported steel to 50%

Donald Trump just announced at his rally in Pittsburgh that he is increasing the tariff on imported steel from 25% to 50%.

The US president told steel workers: “We are going to be imposing a 25% increase. We’re going to bring it from 25% to 50% the tariffs on steel into the United States of America, which will even further secure the steel industry in the United States."

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 30 May 2025 22:32 (four weeks ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/technology/trump-palantir-data-americans.html

StanM, Friday, 30 May 2025 22:33 (four weeks ago)

just endless Lucy with the football energy re tariffs

cant we just put him to sleep i’m so tired of this shit. 3.5 more years? ugh

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 May 2025 01:41 (four weeks ago)

Every announcement gives their friends a chance to extract more from the market.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Saturday, 31 May 2025 01:50 (four weeks ago)

totally.

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 May 2025 01:55 (four weeks ago)

Friday night war against Smithsonian Museums. Trump says he is firing National Portrait Gallery Director even though her museum is not an executive agency one, plus then his budget proposal for next year suggests big cuts for Smithsonian museums and zeroing out funding for small Anacostia Museum that is in a poor Black part of dc , and for the new Latino Museum that is being built.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/art/2025/05/30/trump-portrait-gallery-director/

curmudgeon, Saturday, 31 May 2025 04:44 (four weeks ago)

And Supreme Court strikes again with unsigned order letting Trump end humanitarian parole and therefore deport more people ( Jackson wrote a signed dissent with Sotomayor’s signature as well)

https://www.wcia.com/news/national/ap-supreme-court-lets-trump-end-humanitarian-parole-for-500000-people-from-4-countries/

curmudgeon, Saturday, 31 May 2025 13:12 (four weeks ago)

From Reuters on above:

As with many of the court's orders issued in an emergency fashion, Friday's decision, opens new tab was unsigned and gave no reasoning. Two of the nine-member court's three liberal justices, Ketanji Brown Jackson and Sonia Sotomayor, publicly dissented.
The court botched its decision by failing to account for its impact, Jackson wrote in an accompanying opinion. The outcome, Jackson wrote, "undervalues the devastating consequences of allowing the government to precipitously upend the lives and livelihoods of nearly half a million noncitizens while their legal claims are pending."

curmudgeon, Saturday, 31 May 2025 13:21 (four weeks ago)

The paid-clickbait ads that populate the bottom of that Louisiana Fox outlet website are really something else, too. Especially the one seeking money to send food boxes to "God's People".

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 1 June 2025 16:21 (three weeks ago)

lol yeah we already passed a bill against chemtrails in Tennessee: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68716894

But it's especially sad in Louisiana, which has so many real actual documented problems with chemicals being released into the environment, which of course the state government is not doing shit about.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 1 June 2025 16:22 (three weeks ago)

Trump appears to be promoting a conspiracy theory that Biden was executed in 2020 and replaced with a clone

frogbs, Sunday, 1 June 2025 18:28 (three weeks ago)

...and/or robot.

It's June.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 June 2025 18:32 (three weeks ago)

"Welcome To TACO Hell!": US POLITICS, JUNE 2025

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 June 2025 18:37 (three weeks ago)


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