NYT Best Films of the 21st Century

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Poll Closing Date: Friday, 11 July 2025 00:00 (in 1 week)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/movies/best-movies-21st-century.html

Some conversation about this list in other threads, so let's start a new one. Note that the published list goes to 100 and is *not* a critics' poll. Voters were "hundreds of directors, actors, cinematographers and others in and around the film industry." So this is aligned more with the Oscars than with Sight & Sound (though it's interesting to me that a majority of the Best Picture winners since 2000 failed to make the cut at all).

Vote for your favorite!

#1. Parasite (Dir: Bong Joon-ho)
#2. Mulholland Drive (Dir: David Lynch)
#3. There Will Be Blood (Dir: Paul Thomas Anderson)
#4. In the Mood for Love (Dir: Wong Kar-wai)
#5. Moonlight (Dir: Barry Jenkins)
#6. No Country for Old Men (Dirs: Joel and Ethan Coen)
#7. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Dir: Michel Gondry)
#8. Get Out (Dir: Jordan Peele)
#9. Spirited Away (Dir: Hayao Miyazaki)
#10. The Social Network (Dir: David Fincher)
#11. Mad Max: Fury Road (Dir: George Miller)
#12. Zone of Interest (Dir: Jonathan Glazer)
#13. Children of Men (Dir: Alfonso Cuaron)
#14. Inglourious Basterds (Dir: Quentin Tarantino)
#15. City of God (Dir: Fernando Meirelles)
#16. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Dir: Ang Lee)
#17. Brokeback Mountain (Dir: Ang Lee)
#18. Y tu mamá también (Dir: Alfonso Cuaron)
#19. Zodiac (Dir: David Fincher)
#20. Wolf of Wall Street (Dir: Martin Scorsese)
#21. The Royal Tenenbaums (Dir: Wes Anderson)
#22. The Grand Budapest Hotel (Dir: Wes Anderson)
#23. Boyhood (Dir: Richard Linklater)
#24. Her (Dir: Spike Jonze)
#25. Phantom Thread (Dir: Paul Thomas Anderson)
#26. Anatomy of a Fall (Dir: Justine Triet)
#27. Adaptation. (Dir: Spike Jonze)
#28. The Dark Knight (Dir: Christopher Nolan)
#29. Arrival (Dir: Denis Villeneuve)
#30. Lost in Translation (Dir: Sofia Coppola)
#31. The Departed (Dir: Martin Scorsese)
#32. Bridesmaids (Dir: Paul Feig)
#33. A Separation (Dir: Asghar Farhadi)
#34. WALL-E (Dir: Andrew Stanton)
#35. A Prophet (Dir: Jacques Audiard)
#36. A Serious Man (Dirs: Joel and Ethan Coen)
#37. Call Me by Your Name (Dir: Luca Guadagnino)
#38. Portrait of a Lady on Fire (Dir: Celine Sciamma)
#39. Lady Bird (Dir: Greta Gerwig)
#40. Yi Yi (Dir: Edward Yang)
#41. Amélie (Dir: Jean-Pierre Jeunet)
#42. The Master (Dir: Paul Thomas Anderson)
#43. Oldboy (Dir: Park Chan-wook)
#44. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (Dir: Quentin Tarantino)
#45. Moneyball (Dir: Bennett Miller)
#46. Roma (Dir: Alfonso Cuaron)
#47. Almost Famous (Dir: Cameron Crowe)
#48. The Lives of Others (Dir: Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck)
#49. Before Sunset (Dir: Richard Linklater)
#50. Up (Dir: Peter Docter)


jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2025 14:32 (yesterday)

ctrl+f toni erdmann

imago, Friday, 27 June 2025 14:33 (yesterday)

it's that or Mandy. anyway

imago, Friday, 27 June 2025 14:34 (yesterday)

Yi Yi or Children of Men.

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 June 2025 14:35 (yesterday)

In the absence of Werckmeister Harmonies and Big Man Japan it'll be Spirited Away

bood food bood mood delish! (Matt #2), Friday, 27 June 2025 14:38 (yesterday)

imago at 9:33 27 Jun 25

ctrl+f toni erdmann


it's #59! also the highest ranking film i haven't seen.

jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2025 14:49 (yesterday)

(it's on my watchlist, but whenever I've thought about watching it, the running time has been an impediment.)

jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2025 14:51 (yesterday)

mulholland drive or in the mood for love. can't argue with top 5 for either of them

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Friday, 27 June 2025 14:52 (yesterday)

Tempted to go with Her due to all the hate its been getting around here, but ended up clicking Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. About 10 others would easily be in contention.

cryptosicko, Friday, 27 June 2025 14:59 (yesterday)

only one of these i actively dislike is oldboy. sorry. i liked handmaiden and decision to leave tho

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Friday, 27 June 2025 15:03 (yesterday)

Yi Yi.

I like Guadagnino's ballot. I'm guessing Ghosts of Mars may have been a solitary vote.

jmm, Friday, 27 June 2025 15:12 (yesterday)

Zodiac, which I thought would have been up near the top (painful to see it next to Wolf of Wall Street).

clemenza, Friday, 27 June 2025 15:23 (yesterday)

I'm pleasantly surprised it's as high as it is, given that it was somewhat overlooked/overshadowed at the time of its release (zero Oscar noms, e.g.)

jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2025 15:29 (yesterday)

True--released early in the calendar year, I think--I just thought it had gained so much traction in the last 15 years.

clemenza, Friday, 27 June 2025 15:31 (yesterday)

I feel bad for the half a dozen good to great films here.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 June 2025 15:33 (yesterday)

I don't worry about placement on lists -- I like to see my picks no matter where they land.

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 June 2025 15:38 (yesterday)

Boring answer but Mulholland Drive

gioia thoing (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 27 June 2025 15:50 (yesterday)

The Zone Of Interest or Moonlight. Perennially frustrated with the celebration of Call Me By Your Name over Guadagnino’s masterpiece I Am Love

thinking of you (derogatory) (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 27 June 2025 16:14 (yesterday)

Can someone copy/paste the full list?

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 27 June 2025 16:18 (yesterday)

Perennially frustrated with the celebration of Call Me By Your Name over Guadagnino’s masterpiece I Am Love

For a lot of younger viewers CMBYN was like Brokeback Mountain was a breakthrough film. I prefer Queer and even Challengers.

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 June 2025 16:19 (yesterday)

CMBYN is definitely better than Challengers, if only because Aciman’s novel is better.

None of my choices made the top 50, but given some of the utter trash on that list, I consider that a good thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 27 June 2025 16:30 (yesterday)

(seriously tho, The Departed? Up? Royal fucking Tenenbaums? )

czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 27 June 2025 16:30 (yesterday)

Full list:

1. Parasite
2. Mulholland Drive
3. There Will Be Blood
4. in the Mood for Love
5. Moonlight
6. No Country for Old Men
7. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
8. Get Out
9. Spirited Away
10. The Social Network
11. Mad Max: Fury Road
12. The Zone of Interest
13. Children of Men
14. Inglourious Basterds
15. City of God
16. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
17. Brokeback Mountain
18. Y Tu Mama Tambien
19. Zodiac
20. The Wolf of Wall Street
21. The Royal Tenenbaums
22. The Grand Budapest Hotel
23. Boyhood
24. Her
25. Phantom Thread
26. Anatomy of a Fall
27. Adaptation
28. The Dark Knight
29. Arrival
30. Lost in Translation
31. The Departed
32. Bridesmaids
33. A Separation
34. Wall-E
35. A Prophet
36. A Serious Man
37. Call Me By Your Name
38. Portrait of a Lady on Fire
39. Lady Bird
40. Yi Yi
41. Amelie
42. The Master
43. Oldboy (2005)
44. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
45. Moneyball
46. Roma
47. Almost Famous
48. The Lives of Others
49. Before Sunset
50. Up
51. 12 Years a Slave
52. The Favourite
53. Borat
54. Pan’s Labyrinth
55. Inception
56. Punch-Drunk Love
57. Best in Show
58. Uncut Gems
59. Toni Erdmann
60. Whiplash
61. Kill Bill Vol. 1
62. Memento
63. Little Miss Sunshine
64. Gone Girl
65. Oppenheimer
66. Spotlight
67. Tar
68. The Hurt Locker
69. Under the Skin
70. Let the Right One In
71. Ocean’s Eleven
72. Carol
73. Ratatouille
74. The Florida Project
75. Amour
76. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
77. Everything Everywhere All at Once
78. Aftersun
79. The Tree of Life
80. Volver
81. Black Swan
82. The Act of Killing
83. Inside Llewyn Davis
84. Melancholia
85. Anchorman
86. Past Lives
87. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
88. The Gleaners & I
89. Interstellar
90. Frances Ha
91. Fish Tank
92. Gladiator
93. Michael Clayton
94. Minority Report
95. The Worst Person in the World
96. Black Panther
97. Gravity
98. Grizzly Man
99. Memories of Murder
100. Superbad

Vinnie, Friday, 27 June 2025 16:35 (yesterday)

yeah like a full third of those films are total garbage.

czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 27 June 2025 16:37 (yesterday)

I'd love to see posters' own top 20.

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 June 2025 16:41 (yesterday)

I wonder if Spielberg got vote-split. Minority Report at 94 is his only placement.

jmm, Friday, 27 June 2025 16:45 (yesterday)

Amazed anyone even remembers Little Miss Sunshine

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 27 June 2025 16:47 (yesterday)

I'm amazed anyone laughed through it.

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 June 2025 16:48 (yesterday)

i would like to see which films everyone thinks is garbage

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Friday, 27 June 2025 16:55 (yesterday)

yeah little miss sunshine is one of the ones that i dislike. also interstellar, what a bore.

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Friday, 27 June 2025 16:55 (yesterday)

lots of films that were 'events' it seems

five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Friday, 27 June 2025 17:00 (yesterday)

it's not that I think loads of these are bad films, it's that loads of them are just fine, good, whatever, but together they make for a really drab canon

imago, Friday, 27 June 2025 17:00 (yesterday)

...which was inevitable with an exercise like this, obv

imago, Friday, 27 June 2025 17:03 (yesterday)

For example, I would never put Bridesmaids or Anchorman anywhere near this list, but if I was trying to get something that represents those kinds of films I would have gone with the far better Barb and Starr Go to Vista Del Mar.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 27 June 2025 17:16 (yesterday)

come sit by me

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 June 2025 17:21 (yesterday)

Negronis out, it’s Trish time!

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 27 June 2025 17:23 (yesterday)

Lives Of Others deserves more hatred, the kind of prestige middlebrow thing that thankfully doesn't hit cinemas too often anymore.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 27 June 2025 17:25 (yesterday)

Full list:

1. Parasite
7. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
13. Children of Men
15. City of God
16. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
19. Zodiac
21. The Royal Tenenbaums
22. The Grand Budapest Hotel
27. Adaptation
30. Lost in Translation
31. The Departed
32. Bridesmaids
47. Almost Famous
53. Borat
54. Pan’s Labyrinth
56. Punch-Drunk Love
60. Whiplash
61. Kill Bill Vol. 1
62. Memento
63. Little Miss Sunshine
64. Gone Girl
65. Oppenheimer
71. Ocean’s Eleven
73. Ratatouille
76. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
77. Everything Everywhere All at Once
87. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
92. Gladiator
93. Michael Clayton
94. Minority Report
100. Superbad

i either loathed, disliked, or fell asleep (ie was bored) during every one of these.

czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 27 June 2025 17:31 (yesterday)

oh wait, i actually liked City of God, forgot to erase it. otherwise, that stands.

czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 27 June 2025 17:32 (yesterday)

What would top your list, table?

the way out of (Eazy), Friday, 27 June 2025 17:33 (yesterday)

So this is aligned more with the Oscars than with Sight & Sound (though it's interesting to me that a majority of the Best Picture winners since 2000 failed to make the cut at all).

I did an analysis of all the Best Picture nominees and their placement on the list. I won't post it all here, but there are a few interesting results. For instance, 46 of the 191 Best Picture nominees in 2000-24 made the list. But only 10 of the 25 Best Picture winners did. And none of the 43 Best Picture nominees from 2002, 2004, 2008, 2020, 2021, and 2024 made the list at all.

Weirdest to me might be that the only 2012 Best Picture nominee to make the cut is Michael Haneke's Amour, beating out Argo, Lincoln, Zero Dark Thirty, Les Misérables, Life of Pi, Silver Linings Playbook, Django Unchained, and Beasts of the Southern Wild. Not that these are all great movies (though I do love Lincoln), but I don't think anyone would've guessed back in 2012 that Amour would be the only one to make a list like this in 2025.

jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2025 17:40 (yesterday)

my ballot in no order:
Monster (2023)
Audition (2001)
Gasoline Rainbow (2023)
Close (2023)
Hagazussa (2017)
Marmaduke (2010)
Beau travail (2000)
Hale County This Morning This Evening (2018)
Henry Gamble’s Birthday Party (2015)
Who is Bozo Texino? (2005)

A few more i would add:
In the Mood for Love
Five Broken Cameras
Toni Erdmann
Uncle Boonmee
The Forgotten Space
American Honey
Yi Yi

czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 27 June 2025 17:41 (yesterday)

Good to know! (And S. Cone is a friend, so good to see Henry Gamble there.)

the way out of (Eazy), Friday, 27 June 2025 17:44 (yesterday)

Threw together a top20 featuring no selections from that list.

Arabian Nights, Vol.1: The Restless One
Blindspotting
Life Without Principle
The Souvenir
Moonrise Kingdom
The People's Joker
Once Upon A Time In Anatolia
Hundreds Of Beavers
The Squid & The Whale
RRR
Il Divo
Certain Women
Pictures Of Ghosts
The Big Sick
Eight Grade
Fallen Leaves
Rap World
Technoboss
Don't Let The Riverbeast Get You
Ha Ha Ha

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 27 June 2025 17:46 (yesterday)

Marmaduke (2010)

Respect.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 27 June 2025 17:47 (yesterday)

Is Marmaduke what I think it is?

cryptosicko, Friday, 27 June 2025 17:49 (yesterday)

No, it's about a suburban family that moves to a new neighborhood with their large, yet lovable Great Dane, who has a tendency to wreak havoc in his own oblivious way.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 27 June 2025 17:49 (yesterday)

Reading the Wikipedia summary, which ends with this: "Marmaduke then passes gas in the bed as he winks at the camera."

jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2025 17:51 (yesterday)

It is simply put an astonishing critique of capitalism and consumer culture disguised as a family film

czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 27 June 2025 17:51 (yesterday)

I am being 100% sincere

czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 27 June 2025 17:52 (yesterday)

The passing of gas as so many emissions destroying our planet, the wink to the camera harshly indicting the viewer for their complicity.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 27 June 2025 17:56 (yesterday)

lmao

jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2025 17:58 (yesterday)

Oh so this is the list huh

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 27 June 2025 18:00 (yesterday)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=091-C8pctts

czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 27 June 2025 18:02 (yesterday)

I’ve seen 21 of these and maybe 4-5 are contenders for my vote, but I went with “Fury Road”.

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 27 June 2025 18:02 (yesterday)

(And when I say “I’ve seen 21”, I mean the 50 voting options for this poll.)

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 27 June 2025 18:05 (yesterday)

Number of films seen: 26/50 (50/100). A lot of films on this list that were engrossing and effective, maybe even more than...

My Favourite: The Master, which I like best because it's so mysterious to me.

Least favourite: Almost Famous - completely limp moviemaking. Even when he's using a great song you wish you were just listening to the record. Interesting that both films feature PSH.

Most want to see: Not much, maybe I've become incurious or post-cinematic. Maybe Amour from the longer list, because all I think about is decrepitude.

Least want to see: Suspect Amélie would be least to my taste.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 27 June 2025 18:11 (yesterday)

I'm honestly surprised I've seen so many of these (all of the top 50, and 94 of 100), but I think this list is generally inclined toward movies that were both critically acclaimed and awards contenders, and that's kind of a sweet spot for me.

Like, if it was purely about critical acclaim, there'd be more international auteurs whose films I haven't seen because they seem foreboding. And if it was purely about awards, there'd be more mawkish Oscar bait and blockbuster epics of the kind that I'm allergic to. But if a movie has a high Metacritic score and is also in the awards conversation, I'm probably going to see it.

jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2025 18:18 (yesterday)

My ballot, from that weird list. Two criteria: (1) how the film affected me when I first saw it and (2) how much of a hold it has on my memory. I haven't seen most of these since theatrical release.

I was in film school from 2004-2006, and involved in the industry until 2010, so it's heavy on that era. It sounds pompous, but I am/always have been susceptible to movies with a strong sense of mono no aware ... interest and sensitivity to change and the passage of time. My list probably reflects that.

01. Spirited Away
02. Yi Yi
03. Boyhood
04. In the Mood for Love
05. Lost in Translation
06. Mad Max: Fury Road
07. Children of Men
08. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
09. There Will Be Blood
11. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
12. Everything Everywhere All at Once
13. A Serious Man
15. Y Tu Mama Tambien
10. Mulholland Drive (this one is either here, or not on the list at all. Considered putting in Tenenbaums instead)
14. Best in Show
16. Kill Bill Vol. 2 (Can I write in Volume 2? Volume 1 doesn't do much)
17. Pan's Labyrinth (b/c Devil's Backbone, which I prefer, isn't on this list)
18. Ratatouille
19. Michael Clayton
20. Anchorman or Borat

the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Friday, 27 June 2025 18:19 (yesterday)

I think I scanned the full 100 a half dozen times thinking there’s no way Amour didn’t make the list until I finally locked on to it.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 27 June 2025 18:20 (yesterday)

For example, I would never put Bridesmaids or Anchorman anywhere near this list, but if I was trying to get something that represents those kinds of films I would have gone with the far better Barb and Starr Go to Vista Del Mar.

― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, June 27, 2025 1:16 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Popstar and Step Brothers are funnier than all these

gioia thoing (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 27 June 2025 18:22 (yesterday)

walk hard wuz robbed

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Friday, 27 June 2025 18:25 (yesterday)

Anchorman is stupid funny, and the epitome of an era of goofiness. Step Brothers is better, and I would've voted for it. Also, agree about Barb and Starr –– surprisingly well made. A very long time ago I worked on a student film with the writer/director, and he was a really smart cookie, and I'm so glad he's finding success.

the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Friday, 27 June 2025 18:30 (yesterday)

Surprised that Sideways is missing, both from the main list and others' ballots.

the way out of (Eazy), Friday, 27 June 2025 18:33 (yesterday)

It's always interesting for me to read film critics' strategies in listmaking. When big names like, I dunno, Ebert, Kael, Denby, Sarris, Thompson, Kermode, make lists/compendiums, they've enough confidence and enough writing on record to have already adequately conveyed their aesthetic/historical predilections -- and so the lists come off as authentic and personal. They're comprehensible and thoughtful. With many of the S&S writers, including some of the lesser known ones, the listing tendency comes off as tactical, calculated "I want to be the kind of person that picks Serious Films, with one zany folly to show my range" or explicitly elitist/anti-elitist/liberal/formalist/whatever." It's so much more engaging when they indicate personal positionality and reflexivity to the movies, and when there's a hint of *pleasure* in the choices.

the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Friday, 27 June 2025 18:39 (yesterday)

My twenty:

1. Certified Copy (Abbas Kiarostami, 2011)
2. The Souvenir (Joanna Hogg, 2019)
3. Small Axe (Steve McQueen, 2020)
4. Shoplifters (Hirokazu Kore-eda, 2018)
5. In the Mood for Love (Wong Kar-wai, 2000)
6. Summer Hours (Olivier Assayas, 2010)
7. Girlhood (Céline Sciamma, 2015)
8. Y Tu Mama Tambien (Alfonso Cuaron, 2001)
9. Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2011)
10. Zodiac (David Fincher, 2007)
11. A Christmas Tale (Arnaud Desplechin, 2008)
12. Being 17 (André Téchiné, 2016)
13. Poetry (Lee Chang-dong, 2011)
14. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)
15. Lady Bird (Greta Gerwig, 2017)
16. Yi-Yi (Edward Yang, 2000)
17. Mysteries of Lisbon (Raul Ruiz, 2011)
18. Dogtooth (Yorgos Lanthimos, 2010)
19. Erin Brockovich (Steven Soderbergh, 2000)
20. May December (Todd Haynes, 2023)

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 June 2025 18:41 (yesterday)

Shoplifters was so hard to watch. Not my favorite Kore-eda, but a dynamite film nonetheless.

the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Friday, 27 June 2025 18:46 (yesterday)

Kore-eda was on fire in the 2010s, so I'm happy with whatever you choose.

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 June 2025 18:52 (yesterday)

Someone tallied up the 124 public ballots (which supposedly represented about a fifth of all ballots). These movies all got at least 5 votes from those ballots but didn't make the top 100:

-Inside Out
-The White Ribbon
-Force Majeure
-Birdman
-Synecdoche, New York
-Team America: World Police
-The Turin Horse

jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2025 18:54 (yesterday)

Quick Top 20 of titles not on the list that no one has mentioned yet (I think):
Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Tropical Malady
Bottoms
Paddington 2
Punisher: War Zone
Bad Boys II
I Know Who Killed Me
Speed Racer
Freddy Got Fingered
John Wick
The Raid
First Reformed
Magic Mike XXL
The Beach Bum
Bamboozled
Titane
Jackass The Movie
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
Miami Vice
Everybody Wants Some!!

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Friday, 27 June 2025 18:58 (yesterday)

Ha -- Goodbye, Dragon Inn is #21 on my list.

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:00 (yesterday)

My list wasn't supposed to be ranked, but it would actually be my #1 if I had a ballot.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:04 (yesterday)

i like alfred's list. not having a kiarostami on a list like this = boooo. i would have gone with the wind will carry us. i'm with people who don't like the list overall. jaymc gets at why for me. venn diagram of critical acclaim and awards = boring to me with a few exceptions. also a lot of these were like "sundance sensations" or whatever. very nyu-film-program-core. lol at the idea that 'critics like it but no awards' = forbidding. nothing more forbidding than slow cinema amirite. seems like barbie is destined to be on a list like this tho it must be too recent now or something.

five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:10 (yesterday)

nothing more forbidding than slow cinema amirite.

I mean ... kinda? For me, at least. To be clear, I am not proud of this!

seems like barbie is destined to be on a list like this tho it must be too recent now or something.

I was also kind of surprised that Barbie didn't show up. I don't think it's a recency issue because four other Best Picture nominees of 2023 made the list. If I had to guess, it's that people enjoyed it as a phenomenon and think it was better than a movie about a toy had any right to be, but aren't sure how to think about it in a broader context. Like, it was lots of fun in the moment, but will it hold up as an all-time great? Is anyone even going back to it two years later?

jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2025 19:19 (yesterday)

Worth noting that the voters on the NYT list are directors, actors, producers, etc., not critics. As with S&S, it's more fun to look at individual ballots than the canon-making consensus. (Along those lines, Tracy Letts added his top 10 on Letterboxd.)

Great seeing Alfred's list (and table's too!). So many to finally get around to seeing. My self-consciousness when making my own list is that for every movie I've seen in this century, there are 10 that I was interested in seeing and it just didn't happen, in the same way that the ones I've seen also happened to coincide with free time, showtimes, and the impulse to go.

the way out of (Eazy), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:21 (yesterday)

My top 20, approximately:

I Am Love
In Fabric
The Zone Of Interest
A Touch Of Sin
Audition
Moonlight
Rachel Getting Married
The Descent
A Serious Man
Margaret
Casino Royale
Force Majeure
The Lives Of Others
Caché
Code Unknown
Let The Right One In
My Winnipeg
Mulholland Drive
Enough Said
ugh No Country For Old Men ugh I do love it tho

I feel like I’d rate ten TV series over most of these tho (Twin Peaks 3, Mindhunter, The Wire, Paranoia Agent, and so on)

thinking of you (derogatory) (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:21 (yesterday)

honestly the most insulting inclusion on the list is Whiplash, which might be one of the worst films i have ever seen

czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:22 (yesterday)

So you're saying it's ... not your tempo?

jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2025 19:23 (yesterday)

xps it's all good. someone call me when the nyt does a list of the best train videos, i'll be repping hard for the hide line in japan.

five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:23 (yesterday)

So you're saying it's ... not your tempo?

lol

czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:25 (yesterday)

Might be the worst films about music (or any artform) ever made, tbh

czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:25 (yesterday)

audition.. there's a forbidding watch haha! i like moonlight a lot but feel like it's a touch overrated at this point.

five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:26 (yesterday)

Audition is great! watched it my sophomore year of high school from a bootleg VHS my friend made

czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:26 (yesterday)

I wish Holofcener films got canonized more frequently, it’s really hard to make effective romantic comedies imo. Bong Joon Ho frustrates me idk why, I think I just hated Snowpiercer so much. Rachel Getting Married, In Fabric and I Am Love are my big three “I stan hard for these unappreciated masterpieces” movies.

Generally I really like the Gerwig/Baumbach thing but I feel like their best work is ahead of them. No love for Wes Anderson or Tarantino over here sorry

thinking of you (derogatory) (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:28 (yesterday)

And yeah Audition is a perfect movie

thinking of you (derogatory) (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:29 (yesterday)

yeah i honestly have hated everything after Rushmore. i “get” it, but i hate it.

czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:31 (yesterday)

i fast forwarded a certain scene in audition tbqh and that was at the peak of my tolerance for that kind of subject matter. i really liked the movie overall but nowadays i have like no stomach for body horror.

five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:31 (yesterday)

i'm totally in support of trashing wes anderson. just a dogshit filmmaker.

five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:32 (yesterday)

Would not go that far, but a lot of his movies leave me cold.

jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2025 19:33 (yesterday)

I've seen 85 of 100, aside from 2 or 3 most of the remaining unseen are no accident, I'm too old and life is too short.

Not gonna labor too hard over a top 20 but my unranked version would be close to this:

Barbie (2023)
Blue Ruin (2013)
City of God (2002)
Dogtooth (2009)
Inside Llewyn Davis (2013)
Leviathan (2012)
Mad Max: Fury Road (2015)
Margaret (2011)
Russian Ark (2002)
OJ: Made In America (2016)
Mulholland Dr (2001)
No Country for Old Men (2007)
Rewind & Play (2022)
Small Axe: Lover's Rock (2020)
Step Brothers (2008)
Los Angeles Plays Itself (2003)
Tar (2022)
The Fall (2006)
The Master & Margarita (2024)
The Souvenir (2019)

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:38 (yesterday)

I love Rushmore! Everything since has had stuff I like about it, I’d def watch Budapest Hotel again, Moonrise Kingdom maybe too, but pretty much all Anderson’s instincts are bad instincts; in comparison, I really liked The Squid And The Whale and love Baumbach’s instincts and hope to watch a film by him that knocks me flat

thinking of you (derogatory) (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:44 (yesterday)

Unranked and would probably revise if I rewatched them all:

The B Side: Elsa Dorfman’s Portrait Photography
Bao
Certain Women
Frances Ha
The Girlfriend Experience
Good Time
Hard Truths
Lady Bird
Last Days
Mad Max: Fury Road
The Meyerowitz Stories (New & Collected)
Miami Vice
Once
Perfect Days
The Place Beyond The Pines
Rivers and Tides
Sicario
The Social Network
Sideways
Tár

the way out of (Eazy), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:45 (yesterday)

I did my part for Holofcener further in my list

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:54 (yesterday)

Totally forgot that Laurel Canyon was this century. I hope it'd hold up.

the way out of (Eazy), Friday, 27 June 2025 19:56 (yesterday)

When big names like, I dunno, Ebert, Kael, Denby, Sarris, Thompson, Kermode, make lists/compendiums, they've enough confidence and enough writing on record to have already adequately conveyed their aesthetic/historical predilections -- and so the lists come off as authentic and personal. They're comprehensible and thoughtful. With many of the S&S writers, including some of the lesser known ones, the listing tendency comes off as tactical, calculated "I want to be the kind of person that picks Serious Films, with one zany folly to show my range" or explicitly elitist/anti-elitist/liberal/formalist/whatever." It's so much more engaging when they indicate personal positionality and reflexivity to the movies, and when there's a hint of *pleasure* in the choices.

Hmmm. But wouldn't a list from one of the big names end up equally easy to second guess if we didn't have the context of their writing? And there's also, like, say I love two films pretty much equally but one is a well acknowledged masterpiece and the other's an obscurity, is the calculation of picking the latter truly a bad thing? I think the "personal positionality and reflexivity" you mention comes in more in the annotations than the list, but ofc mostly we read these w/o any annotation at all...

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 27 June 2025 20:01 (yesterday)

have only seen 24 1/2 of the 50 ( technical issues at cinema during 'a serious man' )
of those ' there will be blood' and ' once upon a time in hollywood' made me laugh the most, so one of those.

oscar bravo, Friday, 27 June 2025 20:17 (yesterday)

A quick 20, alphabetically. Three Z movies!

American Psycho
Cameraperson
Carol
Certain Women
Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Homo Sapiens
In the Mood for Love
Mad Max: Fury Road
Marie Antoinette
Memoria
Mulholland Drive
Portrait of a Lady on Fire
Rye Lane
The Souvenir
Still Life
Summer Hours
Tangerine
Zama
Zodiac
Zola

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 27 June 2025 20:32 (yesterday)

10 off the top of my head:

Ballerina (the South Korean one, not the Ana de Armas one)
Blackhat (director's cut)
BuyBust
John Wick
Marie Antoinette
Miami Vice (director's cut)
Michael Clayton
The Raid: Redemption
Universal Soldier: Dead Reckoning
The Villainess

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 27 June 2025 20:46 (yesterday)

Unranked top 10, based mostly on things mentioned in this thread (my memory for movies is terrible, and I don't keep obsessive lists like I do for music, so otherwise I wouldn't remember anything)

A Serious Man (Coens)
Death of Stalin (Iannucci)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry)
Gentlemen Broncos (Hess)
Grizzly Man (Herzog)
Monster (Kore-eda)
My Winnipeg (Maddin)
Parasite (Bong)
Spirited Away (Miyazaki)
The Trip (Winterbottom)

o. nate, Friday, 27 June 2025 21:07 (yesterday)

Here's a mostly unadventurous 25

A History of Violence
Berberian Sound Studio
Enter the Void
Freddy Got Fingered
Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Good Time
Inglorious Basterds
Holy Motors
The Host
Jackass 3D
The Lives of Others
Mandy
No Country for Old Men
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Phantom Thread
Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping
Roma
Russian Ark
Step Brothers
There Will Be Blood
The Tree of Life
Under the Skin
Wall-E
Wet Hot American Summer
Zodiac

gioia thoing (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 27 June 2025 21:09 (yesterday)

Unranked 25 (now being frantically mentally revised in the light of good picks above)

ZODIAC
NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
ZONE OF INTEREST
MULHOLLAND DRIVE
CHILDREN OF MEN
GOODBYE, DRAGON INN
THE MASTER
AFTERSUN
AFTER THE STORM
TWIN PEAKS: THE RETURN
UNDER THE SKIN
LEVIATHAN
ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND
RIPLEY
THE NEW WORLD
TROPICAL MALADY
BAIT
THE WITCH
THE RIDER
STILL WALKING
A SERIOUS MAN
LOVERS ROCK
MORVERN CALLAR
ELEPHANT

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 27 June 2025 21:13 (yesterday)

10 from the top of my head:

Stray Dogs
Hard To Be A God
Zama
Songs From The Second Floor
A Touch Of Sin
In The Mood For Love
Infernal Affairs
Burning
Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives
Mulholland Drive

etc, Friday, 27 June 2025 21:22 (yesterday)

(excited to get to see a 25yr anniversary screening of Yi Yi in a few weeks)
(also NZ cinema hasn't had a great start to the century, sigh)

etc, Friday, 27 June 2025 21:24 (yesterday)

the ten i submitted were

mulholland drive
in the mood for love
inglourious basterds
royal tenenbaums
mad max fury road
children of men
fellowship of the ring
shaun of the dead
waking life
give me liberty (2019)

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Friday, 27 June 2025 21:28 (yesterday)

Zodiac
20th Century Women
No Country for Old Men
American Honey
The Perks of Being a Wallflower
Adventureland
Andy Warhol: A Documentary
The Squid and the Whale
Wendy and Lucy
Spellbound
Lost in Translation
No Direction Home: Bob Dylan
Carlos
O.J. Simpson: Made in America
Elephant
Best of Enemies
You Can Count on Me
School of Rock
The Heart of the Game
Mildred Pierce

#1, then the other nine from my ballot, then another 10 in no particular order. The usual disclaimer: my real #1 would be Mad Men if I could pretend it's like an American Berlin Alexanderplatz.

clemenza, Friday, 27 June 2025 21:32 (yesterday)

Max reax:
https://maxread.substack.com/p/the-29-best-movies-of-the-21st-century

jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2025 21:33 (yesterday)

Hah, #2, 3 and 4 were in my top ten, though all three are enormous touchstones for cinephiles of the last 25 years. Another two cracked the top 50, albeit in the bottom ten ("Yi Yi" was my #1...#40? Outrageous!)

birdistheword, Friday, 27 June 2025 21:39 (yesterday)

Also ten is way too few. I threw together a preliminary list and came up with 30 I'd want in a top ten. I kept whacking it down and didn't play with "strategy' - i.e. maybe vote for something that most people won't vote for? - and it just made "ten" seem arbitrary because great films are going to cover a lot of different territory and by the end I felt like there were gaping holes in my list of what was great about 21st century cinema.

birdistheword, Friday, 27 June 2025 21:49 (yesterday)

Hollywood movies have been dogshit since at least 1960

i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 June 2025 22:19 (yesterday)

oh

glad to know

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 June 2025 22:32 (yesterday)

Loving all this love for A Serious Man, I’m gonna rewatch it tonight, what a crazy good movie

thinking of you (derogatory) (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 27 June 2025 22:41 (yesterday)

shouts to josh safdie for voting snow on tha bluff and to gia coppola for voting bloody nose, empty pockets

johnny crunch, Friday, 27 June 2025 23:16 (yesterday)

xp A Serious Man is probably my favorite Coen brothers film of the past 25 years.

birdistheword, Friday, 27 June 2025 23:43 (yesterday)

A top 20 for the moment. The first 5 are the top 5, the rest unranked

In the Mood for Love
Twin Peaks: The Return
Uncle Boonmee
Ash Is Purest White
Zama

Russian Ark
Burning
Silent Light
Mysteries of Lisbon
Toni Erdmann
The Act of Killing
35 Shots of Rum
The Wild Pear Tree
On the Beach at Night Alone
Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Petite Maman
Mulholland Drive
Stranger by the Lake
May December
Do Not Expect Too Much from the End of the World

Dan S, Friday, 27 June 2025 23:46 (yesterday)

Ooh Shaun of the Dead would’ve been good for the list.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 27 June 2025 23:52 (yesterday)

Toni Erdmann was a long film, but it was so interesting that I didn't notice. It has been described as a comedy, but it was very cringey. The nude party and the ending where she encountered her father dressed up as a monster in the park were a couple of the greatest scenes of all time.

I can see how Xavier Dolan, on the Cannes jury at that time, would object to it (apparently he did, and wouldn't allow it to be given an award)

Dan S, Saturday, 28 June 2025 01:51 (six hours ago)

tbc the running time has put me off in the past not bc I think it will be a slog, but bc it means it's not a movie I can start at 9 pm on a weeknight.

jaymc, Saturday, 28 June 2025 01:59 (six hours ago)

Gee, I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter, Dan S!

Never did get around to Fury Road, The Dark Knight, The Departed or the Tarantino things (and I don't know if I've even read the titles Bridesmaids and Moneyball before lol) so my opinion is worthless but...

Yi Yi, A Separation and A Serious Man might be the ones I'd be most keen to revisit if choosing tonight's viewing, at least.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 28 June 2025 02:04 (six hours ago)

Moneyball is is 21st century dad film canon

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 28 June 2025 02:11 (five hours ago)

I thought Toni Erdmann was funny but I have to admit I’ve never understood the instant canonization of it

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Saturday, 28 June 2025 02:31 (five hours ago)

I love seeing Zama on a few lists, it just barely missed making mine. It floored me when I saw it, but feel like I need to see it a 2nd time and sit with it before I can give it all-time status

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Saturday, 28 June 2025 02:34 (five hours ago)

ZAMA was on my fake ballot, along with

mulholland dr
before sunset
to the wonder (had to write this in?)
carol
phantom thread
frances ha
in the mood for love
summer hours
eighth grade

brony james (k3vin k.), Saturday, 28 June 2025 02:58 (five hours ago)

Never did get around to Fury Road, The Dark Knight, The Departed or the Tarantino things (and I don't know if I've even read the titles Bridesmaids and Moneyball before lol) so my opinion is worthless but...

I saw those and I can't say I'm the biggest fan of any of those. Fury Road is amazing to look at so if you just want a great spectacle and you get a chance to see it on a big screen rather than at home, I'd do that. The others have their merits whether it's performances, dialogue, humor or the way they stage some action sequence or spectacle, but I had reservations about all of them, and the ones I revisited just got worse (even much worse) with each viewing.

birdistheword, Saturday, 28 June 2025 03:53 (four hours ago)

My ballot (though I immediately thought of a ton of other worthy films of course):

Zodiac
20th Century Women
In the Mood for Love
Yi Yi
Lost City of Z
Fury Road
A.I.
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring
A Hidden Life
Michael Clayton

ryan, Saturday, 28 June 2025 04:27 (three hours ago)

Kinda wish I had made room for "The New World" and "Los Angeles Plays Itself"

ryan, Saturday, 28 June 2025 04:44 (three hours ago)

of the top ten on this list I would maybe only argue with #1 and #10; I think Parasite is great but the best of all of these seems like recency bias. Social Network was fine but I am so so sick of FB and Zuckerberg I feel like ranking even a critical film gives him more attention than he deserves.

Mulholland, Chidren of Men, In the Mood for Love / 2046, Zone of Lnterest, Lost in Translation, Up would all be in my top 50 I guess, but so would the Station Agent and About a Boy.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 28 June 2025 06:28 (one hour ago)

Was Up in the top 10? You gotta be kidding me.

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 28 June 2025 07:30 (thirty-five minutes ago)


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