the president of the pathetic united states of america politics january 2026

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in the year 2026 we will have multiple pathetic presidents of the pathetic united states of america

z_tbd, Friday, 2 January 2026 18:17 (four weeks ago)

the title is a reference to the current official name of this country, the pathetic united states of america

z_tbd, Friday, 2 January 2026 18:18 (four weeks ago)

has Google Maps been updated yet?

vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Friday, 2 January 2026 18:20 (four weeks ago)

btw, for the casual passersby, this is currently the January 2026 US Politics thread. thank you for your attention to this matter.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 2 January 2026 18:21 (four weeks ago)

It’s taking everything I have to not post the “America! Fuck Yeah!” video here

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 2 January 2026 18:25 (four weeks ago)

America wins: Trump
pulls NG out of three cities (gift link) https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/us/politics/trump-national-guard.html?unlocked_article_code=1.BVA.j8DW.BXYwWRi7AWDx&smid=nytcore-ios-share

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 2 January 2026 18:27 (four weeks ago)

Xp I used the full official name in the thread title! The pathetic United States

z_tbd, Friday, 2 January 2026 18:27 (four weeks ago)

in the year 2026 we will have multiple pathetic presidents of the pathetic united states of america

Crossing my fingers we have the year of three emperors

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 2 January 2026 18:29 (four weeks ago)

sorry for giving this thread a dumb title

do you know the united states “runs” venezuela now? “we” run it. and “we” is marco rubio and hegseth “and a team” of…other people.

how long do we run venezuela? uh, as long as it takes to rebuild the infrastructure…of venezuela. specifically, their oil industry infrastructure. it wasn’t pumping out enough oil, and the oil that was being produced was being sold to china! now we run it, we’ll produce much more oil, so much, in fact, that this entire “operation” is self-funding, it pays for itself with the oil sales

z_tbd, Saturday, 3 January 2026 18:12 (four weeks ago)

Idiot maga folks proclaiming it a success because takeover done without loss of us life and costs of Iraq.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 January 2026 18:16 (four weeks ago)

not just maga but washington post (editorial, i know, no surprise) and many others are not only defending it but praising it as a geopolitical masterstroke

z_tbd, Saturday, 3 January 2026 18:20 (four weeks ago)

Wasn’t there a Dead Kennedys song about this?

sarahell, Saturday, 3 January 2026 18:22 (four weeks ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRkCefHXlSo
“A moderately repressive regime in South America”

sarahell, Saturday, 3 January 2026 18:28 (four weeks ago)

In other oil-related news:

Attorney General Pam Bondi posted an unsealed indictment against Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, accusing them of “Narco-Terrorism Conspiracy, Cocaine Importation Conspiracy, Possession of Machineguns” and other charges.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 3 January 2026 18:32 (four weeks ago)

Russians had the Wagner group in Africa, I'm waiting to see if Trump has the guts to follow through. But I guess he chickens out and takes back his words about running anything when someone, somewhere, points out to him that the US can't do that.

Naledi, Saturday, 3 January 2026 18:35 (four weeks ago)

the pathetic united states of america clan of war mongering oil stealing paedophiles

calzino, Saturday, 3 January 2026 18:35 (four weeks ago)

I fully support this operation. The Trump administration's trademark incompetence and corruption will basically take Venezuelan oil production off the board for several years. What we need to do next is launch a whole series of similarly cack-handed attacks on other oil supplier countries, until the entire planet's oil infrastructure is totally fucked and out of commission. We'll all be driving solar-powered cars by summer!

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 3 January 2026 18:40 (four weeks ago)

Trump doesn't want to run anything. He'll subcontract it all out to Exxon, and say what you will, the global oil corporations are masters at expropriating oil from third world nations and shipping it to market no matter how badly the country is falling apart outside their facilities.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 3 January 2026 19:05 (four weeks ago)

Remember Tulsi “No Regime Change Wars” Gabbard?

My heart is filled with gratitude, aloha and peace 🙏🏽 #2026 pic.twitter.com/Du0iGV2sRb

— Tulsi Gabbard 🌺 (@TulsiGabbard) January 2, 2026

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Saturday, 3 January 2026 19:25 (four weeks ago)

the countries falling apart essentially because of the expropriation is the kicker

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Saturday, 3 January 2026 19:27 (four weeks ago)

My heart is filled with aloha

Heez, Sunday, 4 January 2026 00:08 (three weeks ago)

been dreading all day this, I guess, inevitable aspect

The New York Times has reported that at least 40 people, including civilians and soldiers, were killed in Saturday’s US attack on Venezuela. The estimate comes from a senior Venezuelan official who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The victims reportedly include a woman called Rosa González, who was killed when her three-story apartment complex was hit by a strike. Another resident was reportedly severely injured.

nashwan, Sunday, 4 January 2026 00:11 (three weeks ago)

Democratic members of the US Congress said senior officials of president Donald Trump’s administration had misled them during recent briefings about plans for Venezuela by insisting they were not planning regime change in Caracas.

Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democrats’ leader in the Senate, said he had been told in three classified briefings that the administration was not pursuing regime change or planning to take military action in Venezuela.

“They assured me that they were not pursuing those things,” Schumer said on a call with reporters.

“Clearly they’re not being straight with the American people.”

Schumer said he had not been briefed by Saturday afternoon and called for the administration to fill in all lawmakers by early next week.

“They’ve kept everyone in the total dark,” he added.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 4 January 2026 00:21 (three weeks ago)

there is no dark vacuum more impressive than the space between yr ears sen chuck dipshit

look, he's country's own david bowie- deal with it (Hunt3r), Sunday, 4 January 2026 00:35 (three weeks ago)

“They assured me that they were not pursuing those things,” Schumer said

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vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Sunday, 4 January 2026 00:36 (three weeks ago)

the criminals broke the law again!

trm (tombotomod), Sunday, 4 January 2026 01:09 (three weeks ago)

But that’s against the law!

z_tbd, Sunday, 4 January 2026 01:28 (three weeks ago)

The government is going to call itself and tell itself to arrest itself. Then itself will investigate itself and find no wrongdoing on the part of itself.

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 4 January 2026 02:04 (three weeks ago)

https://prospect.org/2025/12/23/narco-terrorist-elite-rubio-south-america-iran-contra/

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Sunday, 4 January 2026 07:39 (three weeks ago)

^ i never knew any of that! jesus christ.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 4 January 2026 10:22 (three weeks ago)

WEIRDOS

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:gouysuoxatjdb5bjcqe4sfh7/bafkreigktn77dywtpaoz6rdc4mg2ehv56n6u2nab7zzbhfa5wnincau3la@jpeg

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 4 January 2026 18:22 (three weeks ago)

^^^^^ this shit makes my blood boil ^^^^^^

Andy the Grasshopper, Sunday, 4 January 2026 19:36 (three weeks ago)

it's Greenland, don't you mean freeze

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 January 2026 19:37 (three weeks ago)

isnt the standard take that the penultimate grandeur stage of empire is like this- stupid excessive takings and graspings, actually aware it is dying? then it is forced or gulled into an effort/conflict that costs way way too much and gets exhausted and gives away what it can before that shit gets taken or walk away? dying empire’s friends comfort it, but growing powers that were not bankrupted step up, step over, and step into financial and functional domination of the world scene. greenland won’t save usa, but will make some billionaires while we melt it down to boil the ocean.

look, he's country's own david bowie- deal with it (Hunt3r), Sunday, 4 January 2026 20:08 (three weeks ago)

I guess there is no greater irony than EU members spending their weekend explaining away any international law breach since Maduro was an illegitimate president, followed immediately by Trump promising to plant the American flag on Greenland in the next 20 days / months.

Naledi, Monday, 5 January 2026 09:29 (three weeks ago)

isnt the standard take that the penultimate grandeur stage of empire is like this- stupid excessive takings and graspings, actually aware it is dying?

I think to some extent yes, but I think it's also a recalibrating from a global power to a regional power. The US can become weaker globally while at the same time becoming stronger in its region.

I think this is partly ideological. I don't hold to the idea there are no principles at play, transactionalism, crime, and power ARE principles. It is morally wrong not to steal from those that you can steal from. If they can't defend their stuff then it doesn't belong to them. You only own what you can defend.

anvil, Monday, 5 January 2026 09:44 (three weeks ago)

I think "what you can defend" is a problem for this particular model, because they seem to have a fantasy that they can run the whole hemisphere by parking some big boats in the Caribbean and sending occasional bombs or sorties in as needed. No occupation or management, just endless shakedowns. I don't think that's a viable model of domination.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 5 January 2026 14:11 (three weeks ago)

Also, the inane triumphalism really does feel like an ersatz replay of the "Mission Accomplished" bubble, when Bush/Cheney were super psyched about taking out Saddam and people in the administration were openly talking about the "next steps" of basically rolling through the entire Middle East and North Africa, taking out insufficiently "anti-terror" leaders and governments. That talk didn't survive too long. Venezuela hardly looks like an actual triumph for American power right now, never mind a month from now.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 5 January 2026 14:14 (three weeks ago)

Good morning!

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 January 2026 14:16 (three weeks ago)

Walz dropping out of governor's race.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 5 January 2026 14:30 (three weeks ago)

Well, that was interesting.

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 January 2026 14:44 (three weeks ago)

huh, stung by the fraud issue (at least the one legitimate one that has come to light) or preparing a run in ‘28?

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 5 January 2026 15:03 (three weeks ago)

Sorry but there is no way the nation wants a poster boy for the key right-wing talking points of "immigrants are financial parasites" AND "government benefit programs are riddled with fraud"

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 January 2026 15:08 (three weeks ago)

There is an illusion that being VP makes one a good candidate for president that has not played out very well in reality.

Interesting article and graph:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/08/01/most-us-vice-presidents-in-recent-decades-have-sought-the-presidency-but-relatively-few-have-won/

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Monday, 5 January 2026 15:22 (three weeks ago)

So beyond scandals and etc, there’s also the fact that Walz was never VP and also had the stink of loser on him due to the disastrous campaign of which he was a part.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Monday, 5 January 2026 15:23 (three weeks ago)

Still the guy I'd go to for advice on replacement lawnmower gaskets.

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 January 2026 15:26 (three weeks ago)

and for insulting Republicans

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 January 2026 15:28 (three weeks ago)

Guys who ran for Vice President and lost probably have an even worse record of becoming President.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Monday, 5 January 2026 15:44 (three weeks ago)

https://prospect.org/2025/12/23/narco-terrorist-elite-rubio-south-america-iran-contra/

― Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Sunday, January 4, 2026 2:39 AM (yesterday)

This should be a book. I'm not sure it tells you anything about Rubio but it's pretty wild

rob, Monday, 5 January 2026 15:49 (three weeks ago)

“They assured me that they were not pursuing those things,” Schumer said

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― vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Saturday, January 3, 2026 6:36 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

“SHOCKED, shocked I am”, etc

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 5 January 2026 15:53 (three weeks ago)

i like walz but there is no way he's viable at this point

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 5 January 2026 16:22 (three weeks ago)

has he been a good governor overall?

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 January 2026 16:24 (three weeks ago)

Horrified by what Walz has had to put up with recently.

Would Klobuchar give up her standing in the Senate or have they got someone in mind to appoint if she wins the Governor race?

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 5 January 2026 17:00 (three weeks ago)

the whole "colonization was good, actually" talking point presently being rolled out by e.g. stephen miller on twitter isn't new -- it's the sort of thing they've been saying to each other forever -- but it's so depressing seeing it leech out into the air. fuck these assholes

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 5 January 2026 17:18 (three weeks ago)

has he been a good governor overall?

― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, January 5, 2026 10:24 AM (fifty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I say yes without reservation, but I also think him removing himself from the race is a wise decision, even without the Feeding our Futures scandal being dug back up by right-wing trolls, I think a third term was a big ask

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 5 January 2026 17:21 (three weeks ago)

Now who takes his spot for the DFL, no idea, Klobuchar...meh

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 5 January 2026 17:24 (three weeks ago)

At the same time I don't think the GOP as any good options either, Scott Jensen? Kendall Qualls? the my-pillow guy?

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 5 January 2026 17:27 (three weeks ago)

god Klobuchar fucking sucks, she should go crawl under a rock

budo jeru, Monday, 5 January 2026 17:28 (three weeks ago)

Realise this is anecdotal; I have family members who voted for Klobuchar and Angie Craig but who also voted for [current president]. It might work but Klobuchar has a lot of accumulated power in DC she may not be into giving up if there’s a huge turn to Dems in the midterms.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 5 January 2026 17:31 (three weeks ago)

what happened to Peggy Flanagan?

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 5 January 2026 17:37 (three weeks ago)

Flanagan is running for Tina Smith's senate spot, against Angie Craig

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 5 January 2026 17:39 (three weeks ago)

Is Jesse Ventura still around?

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Monday, 5 January 2026 17:41 (three weeks ago)

The thing is... I think Walz actually needs a regular paycheck. I don't get the impression that he's been enriching himself via insider trading, he probably has some savings bonds he got when he graduated college

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 5 January 2026 17:45 (three weeks ago)

Is Jesse Ventura still around?

― This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Monday, January 5, 2026 11:41 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

He had a weed shop down the street from me, not sure what's going on with that

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 5 January 2026 17:47 (three weeks ago)

Flanagan seems great but I'm not sure she's got the juice to win tbh

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 January 2026 17:47 (three weeks ago)

if Klobuchar runs, she'll win

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 January 2026 17:49 (three weeks ago)

In January 2011, Ventura filed a lawsuit against the Transportation Security Administration, seeking a declaration that the agency's new controversial pat-down policy violated citizens' Fourth Amendment rights and an injunction to bar the TSA from subjecting him to the pat-down procedures. Ventura received a titanium hip replacement in 2008 that sets off metal detectors at airport security checkpoints.[182]

The U.S. district court dismissed the suit for lack of jurisdiction in November 2011, ruling that "challenges to TSA orders, policies and procedures" must be brought only in the U.S. courts of appeals.[183] After the court's ruling, Ventura held a press conference in which he called the federal judges cowards; said he no longer felt patriotic and would henceforth refer to the U.S. as the "Fascist States of America"; said he would never take commercial flights again; said he would seek dual citizenship in Mexico; and said he would "never stand for a national anthem again" and would instead raise a fist.[184]

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will noisey have moved forward, done the work and fought like fuck?

z_tbd, Monday, 5 January 2026 17:51 (three weeks ago)

xxpost - plus the relationship between Flanagan and Walz kind of fell apart, she is running because -- even if Walz got reelected -- she was not going to be lieutenant governor

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 January 2026 17:53 (three weeks ago)

The DFL primary for Smith’s seat is Angie Craig (blue dog Rep) v. Peggy Flanagan (progressive, Native American, Lt. Gov). I will be voting for Flanagan (and not just because she is from my home town).

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 5 January 2026 18:24 (three weeks ago)

Just a general note to anyone in the USA this: make sure you get all your shots

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 5 January 2026 20:21 (three weeks ago)

^^^^ sounds like you've been administered the woke vaccine

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 5 January 2026 20:30 (three weeks ago)

lol I've literally had a conservative use "You sound vaxxed" to me as a social media gotcha reply.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 5 January 2026 20:46 (three weeks ago)

A good comeback might be something like, “hey, I at least have a chance of seeing 2027”

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 5 January 2026 20:57 (three weeks ago)

(On the other hand, are you sure you want to?)

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 January 2026 20:58 (three weeks ago)

lol fair point

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 5 January 2026 21:05 (three weeks ago)

Yeah that "you sound vaxxed" has been popping up a lot, must be in their latest newsletter for phrases to use. Along with, sadly, one I've seen five too many times already today, "it's funny how quickly libs went from 'no kings' to 'acthually this dictator is good'".

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 5 January 2026 21:10 (three weeks ago)

I will say I prefer "vaxxed" to "groomer" as far as idiot right-wing ripostes go.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 5 January 2026 21:21 (three weeks ago)

lol I've literally had a conservative use "You sound vaxxed" to me as a social media gotcha reply.

better than sounding like RFK JR amirite?

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Monday, 5 January 2026 23:34 (three weeks ago)

now kinda wondering if the collapse of NATO would be a happy byproduct of these fuckers' threats/machinations against Greenland, or maybe the actual point?
Or possibly both

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 01:31 (three weeks ago)

do we want NATO to collapse?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 01:55 (three weeks ago)

they hate it, but for the wrong reasons

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 01:58 (three weeks ago)

and by “they” I mean the Trump gang

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 01:59 (three weeks ago)

Oh I read Andy's comment as supportive of collapse (a 'happy byproduct')

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 02:01 (three weeks ago)

and was somewhat confused

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 02:02 (three weeks ago)

yeah no, I meant it would be a happy moment for these assholes (and Putin)

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 02:03 (three weeks ago)

here's one, from December

Washington, D.C.- Today, Representative Thomas Massie (R-KY) introduced HR 6508, the NATO Act, to remove the United States from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).

“NATO is a Cold War relic. We should withdraw from NATO and use that money to defend our own country, not socialist countries,” said Rep. Thomas Massie.

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 02:05 (three weeks ago)

(I know Massie is actually one of the few to stand up to Trump sometimes, but the larger sentiment is there)

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 02:07 (three weeks ago)

Russia would be thrilled at the prospect of a NATO collapse. Not sure who else would benefit.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 02:07 (three weeks ago)

well west of the Caucus Mountains there are probably literally hundreds of US installations & bases (including Greenland!) so I don't see how we can just walk away right now

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 02:12 (three weeks ago)

Not in the short term, but in the long term Europe would benefit, because the US is simply not a reliable partner any more, on any level. And I don't think that necessarily changes after Trump goes. Sooner or later, Europe has to face up to its geopolitical challenges without US support.

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 02:13 (three weeks ago)

the Corporation for Public Broadcasting just voted to dissolve

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 02:18 (three weeks ago)

back when the federal funding was withdrawn the CPB board announced they planned to wind the CPB down and then dissolve, so this was expected.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 02:26 (three weeks ago)

oh I know, it's just kinda sad... been around my whole life

I guess they went out handing out grants to public media orgs, to spend all the money they had left

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 02:31 (three weeks ago)

TAPPER: Can you rule out the US is going to take Greenland by force?

MILLER: Greenland should be part of the US. By what right does Denmark assert control over Greenland? The US is the power of NATO

T: So force is on the table?

M: Nobody is gonna fight the US militarily over future of Greenland

treeship., Tuesday, 6 January 2026 03:05 (three weeks ago)

This "actually, America First means taking over the Western Hemisphere" shit has got to go.

BrianB, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 03:23 (three weeks ago)

Oh we're gonna be hearing the word hemisphere a lot

https://i.ibb.co/Wv9gffpk/Screenshot-2026-01-05-at-2-51-55-PM.png

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 03:44 (three weeks ago)

god this is dystopian

z_tbd, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 04:00 (three weeks ago)

the degree to which the administration works entirely on ragebait is impressive.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 04:04 (three weeks ago)

i mean i sometimes type my enraged responses. then i select all, cut, and paste it away from ilx. they’re like receipts. i did it at 8:20 for example in response to treesh’s post. i’d post it but it’s angry and dumb lol.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 04:09 (three weeks ago)

see this is why I was asking in the other thread what needs to happen for this shit to stop?? I think the GOP is fuckin nuts but even these ghouls gotta know that openly threatening Mexico and Greenland is baaaad news since Trump might actually try to do it, and that he's almost certainly starting shit to get the Epstein story out of the news (which it did!!) oh and also they know midterms are coming up which could wreck a lot of their plans unless something drastic happens, now add some serious desperation and where do you think this is all heading chaps???

frogbs, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 04:17 (three weeks ago)

the degree to which the administration works entirely on ragebait is impressive

Cooper Lund wrote about this on Medium yesterday.

Understanding what defines a presidential administration is difficult in the moment. An administration tries to set a tone in the first one hundred days, and we tend to attach understanding to decisive moments instead of a philosophy. It’s something that’s usually done in retrospect, and almost year into the second Trump administration the project is starting to come into focus. They’re here to make content.

...

Content is the primary unit of the Internet in the 2020s, and it’s not surprising that an administration would embrace it as part of a broader media strategy. What’s been surprising to me is how everyone now seems to think their primary job is to create content. The vice-president’s primary role is to go on X, the Everything App and defend the administration, the transportation secretary spends his time whining that people don’t dress up for flights and say thank you, the treasury secretary does TV hits to create clips to be reposted. It’s an entire administration of posters, headed by a guy who built his own social network to post on after getting banned from other ones.

Because this is an administration of content creators, the primary way to understand what they do isn’t as the creation of policy like a traditional Presidential administration but as a mechanism for the creation of flavored content. They are doing real, heinous things to facilitate the creation of content, and we must be clear about that, but it is always in service of the creation of the content and not durable policy, partially because they aren’t skilled enough to actually create durable change in the system, and also because they’re quite frankly pretty lazy people who just want to be famous.

You can see this impulse for content overrunning the Federal government. Every official account of the Federal government is being run by some too-online weirdo who loves posting coded white supremacist messages so they can laugh about it in groupchats afterwards. The deputy assistant attorney general for the Civil Rights Division is having slur-filled meltdowns. DHS might as well be an arm of Stormfront given what they’re putting out. All they know how to do is post. Why this is happening makes its own kind of sense — in an administration of people glued to the content on their phones, creating content that JD Vance might post into the groupchat is the best way to prove your value. I have to wonder if creating Trump-flavored content is so popular among the administration because that’s the only way to reach the president now.

I’m old enough to remember when everyone said the internet isn’t real life, and it seems like that has been forgotten, and it’s been forgotten most by the people in power. That’s good news in a way — all of the effort that has been made to create Trump-flavored content isn’t going to create durable structures for cruelty, and that makes rebuilding when this is over easier. But this also comes with a hazard — you must keep yourself from believing the content is real if you want to keep your wits about you. If you fall for the content, you’ve fallen into the trap and you’re seeing them the way they want to be seen and not the way that they are.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 04:25 (three weeks ago)

Yeah, there is this dissonant almost surrealism — the gap between the imaginary world of the internet and right-wing media and the world we actually live in every day. I had that feeling strongly this afternoon hearing an NBC News account of Trump saying that he is the ultimate person in charge of Venezuela. And, like ... he's not. I don't know if he's ever even been to Venezuela. We're not actually running Venezuela. And probably we're not really going to attack Greenland either. But everybody has to take these statements seriously because he is the actual real-world president and things he says and does matter, even when they sound hallucinatory.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 05:00 (three weeks ago)

Personally it gives me strong last year vibes when he was talking about tariffs and nobody took it in earnest, and then they went ahead. So I tend to believe the admin is very serious when they say "and what are you gonna do about it?". And people were worried about Taiwan in the next few years. The whole thing would be comical if it wasn't... real, like you say tipsy.

Naledi, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 08:00 (three weeks ago)

while incriminating and proving motive, government by ragebait is also their way of demanding— and to them, justifying— the people’s permission.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 13:12 (three weeks ago)

that lund piece is quite accurate i’d say.

what anyone says they’ll do is linked to what they do, duh. but just getting people to accept and endorse criminality is their sense of permission. and their justification for the criminal acts. “see, people want this!” and we are only posting “can you believe that?! what ghouls to even SAY that!” perhaps we should focus more on “here’s what they’re doing, and this is what the people’s punishment WILL and must be.

this rank and obvious illegality and criminality are some reasons that since feb i’ve repeated that creating a shadow opposition constitutional govt should be the only function of an opposition party in this case. to say that the law still exists. and it will be delivered on those fuckers. they’ve committed obvious corruption, obvious crimes, and as lund says, they spend almost the entirety of their days stating their criminal, immoral, and criminally immoral unamerican objectives. one needs no imagination to show clear motive. and this opp govt must state super loudly any new rectifying laws that it means to lock in when it takes back power, and why. say even “here’s the legal and forcible way we’ll do it. here’s what and who the people’s DOJ will be like. here’s what’s in store for corrupt and derelict SCOTUS justices. we absolutely intend to do these things. and we will do it. this is making the government work for people according to the constitution.”

to those who prefer a real revolution since the old constitution is all bad, i disagree and i think the billionaires would win that scenario. but in that case we need to be selling the new constitution now.

back to fantasy land.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 13:15 (three weeks ago)

It is their way of showing contempt to the people. This has a secondary effect, sometimes, of impressing people so they do gain support with the ragebait. Many Americans are masochists apparently and all this time have just been waiting to submit to a president who openly hates them.

treeship., Tuesday, 6 January 2026 13:15 (three weeks ago)

i know they get off on infuriating us, but i still think the why is to uh build their toxic brand.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 13:22 (three weeks ago)

very funny to me in that dumb meme posted above that they used a photo of him all post-stroke droopy

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 13:28 (three weeks ago)

Republican Doug LaMalfa, a seven-term U.S. representative from California and a reliable vote on President Donald Trump’s agenda, has died, reducing the GOP’s narrow control of the House. He was 65.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 15:55 (three weeks ago)

Died of MAGA.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 15:57 (three weeks ago)

California Gov. Gavin Newsom now has 14 days to announce a special election to replace LaMalfa, per California election laws. The election then must take place no more than 140 days after Newsom’s proclamation -- potentially pushing an election to replace LaMalfa to June.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 15:57 (three weeks ago)

LaMalfa was the rep for where I lived during my last stint in California. Hope it was a painful death— he was an evil sonofabitch

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 16:03 (three weeks ago)

5 year anniversary of the attempted coup. may everybody who participated rot in hell

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 16:30 (three weeks ago)

yeah, but how many coups have they done since then? I hope they all get their 5 year coup attempt chips.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 16:33 (three weeks ago)

This NYT piece, which ran on NYE, goes hard
https://archive.ph/wQENW

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 16:41 (three weeks ago)

This has a secondary effect, sometimes, of impressing people so they do gain support with the ragebait.

Got an example? Of them gaining support? Cause I don't see any. Nobody is rallying to the cause of brutalizing immigrants or invading Venezuela. Existing MAGA types are saying, "Fuck yeah, we rule, fuck you," but even they're not shouting it, firing their guns in the air Yosemite Sam style, waving giant flags off their boats and/or pickup trucks like they once did. No one is being impressed. Which is why so much of the current wave of propaganda has the sweaty, desperate air of Stephen Miller attempting to shout down Jake Tapper as Tapper looks at him like he's a child pissing himself.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 16:46 (three weeks ago)

Really hope I outlive Miller.

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 16:47 (three weeks ago)

_This has a secondary effect, sometimes, of impressing people so they do gain support with the ragebait._

Got an example? Of them gaining support? Cause I don't see any. Nobody is rallying to the cause of brutalizing immigrants or invading Venezuela. Existing MAGA types are saying, "Fuck yeah, we rule, fuck you," but even they're not shouting it, firing their guns in the air Yosemite Sam style, waving giant flags off their boats and/or pickup trucks like they once did. No one is being impressed. Which is why so much of the current wave of propaganda has the sweaty, desperate air of Stephen Miller attempting to shout down Jake Tapper as Tapper looks at him like he's a child pissing himself.

Maybe not working anymore but it worked last year. This maniac is the fucking president.

treeship., Tuesday, 6 January 2026 16:53 (three weeks ago)

_Republican Doug LaMalfa, a seven-term U.S. representative from California and a reliable vote on President Donald Trump’s agenda, has died, reducing the GOP’s narrow control of the House. He was 65._

vaxxed?

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 16:55 (three weeks ago)

The 5th anniversary of Jan 6, not to mention images of all the frontpages in the wake of the insurrection, put a fine point on how repulsed the whole country seemed by that act of terrorism in the immediate aftermath, and the cowardice and avarice of the politicians and media outlets that fell in line with Trump as he became the Republican candidate again.

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 16:57 (three weeks ago)

xp treeship: but he was going to make everything cheap!

i will spend the rest of my life giving the stinkeye to my fellow contrymen

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 16:59 (three weeks ago)

millions of people said “better the violent racist than the lady”

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 17:00 (three weeks ago)

The 5th anniversary of Jan 6, not to mention images of all the frontpages in the wake of the insurrection, put a fine point on how repulsed the whole country seemed by that act of terrorism in the immediate aftermath, and the cowardice and avarice of the politicians and media outlets that fell in line with Trump as he became the Republican candidate again.

The amnesia was so bizarre to me.

treeship., Tuesday, 6 January 2026 17:10 (three weeks ago)

violent racists love voting for their own

xp

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 17:11 (three weeks ago)

creating a shadow opposition constitutional govt should be the only function of an opposition party in this case. to say that the law still exists. and it will be delivered on those fuckers. they’ve committed obvious corruption, obvious crimes, and as lund says, they spend almost the entirety of their days stating their criminal, immoral, and criminally immoral unamerican objectives. one needs no imagination to show clear motive.

speaking of jan 6, that's what i was thinking of while reading hunt3r's post here. "one needs no imagination to show clear motive". that's what the jan 6 hearings were like, to watch. this is so obvious, so obviously corrupt, the intention was so clear. the conscience of fucking MIKE PENCE was one of the few "institutions" that held that day.

but the obvious truth wasn't enough. by the time the hearings started, everyone had already made up their minds. they had been taught how to think about it by jan 8 at the latest

z_tbd, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 17:34 (three weeks ago)

they maybe could have impeached and convicted him that night!

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 17:39 (three weeks ago)

George Conway is gonna run for a House seat (NY 12th)... as a Democrat

I'm not sure who would vote for him, but good luck George!

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 18:41 (three weeks ago)

never trust a Conway

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 18:46 (three weeks ago)

Santos/Conway '28, by George!

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 6 January 2026 18:59 (three weeks ago)

speaking of the official White House website now has a page dedicated to January 6th and it is as insane as you expect it to be. did you know the Democrats were the real insurrectionists? wow makes you think

frogbs, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 19:09 (three weeks ago)

of course: who can forget Pelosi raging at the podium, telling us soyboy cucks to fight like hell

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 6 January 2026 19:13 (three weeks ago)

cbs evening news ended tonight with tony dokoupil saying "marco rubio, we salute you. you're the ultimate florida man."
https://bsky.app/profile/justinbaragona.bsky.social/post/3mbsbzi3cxs2s

jaymc, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 02:27 (three weeks ago)

He should have done it to the rhythm of "For Those About to Rock":

Mar-CO Ru-bi-O
WE SALUTE YOU

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 02:47 (three weeks ago)

Marco Rubio looks terrible these days btw. Sweaty, jittery.

treeship., Wednesday, 7 January 2026 02:53 (three weeks ago)

He's so close to taking over Cuba, can't contain himself.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 02:54 (three weeks ago)

I do think they are going to try some bullshit in Greenland and Cuba.

treeship., Wednesday, 7 January 2026 02:56 (three weeks ago)

Will be very relieved if they don’t.

treeship., Wednesday, 7 January 2026 02:57 (three weeks ago)

Marco Rubio looks terrible these days btw. Sweaty, jittery.

I’d say he’s as coked up as the rest of them but he’s always been a weird flop-sweaty little guy

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 02:59 (three weeks ago)

He has the same hairstyle i did when i was seven.

treeship., Wednesday, 7 January 2026 03:01 (three weeks ago)

If he were in coke instead of selling it like he was in the 80s he'd be cooler

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 03:05 (three weeks ago)

xo pretty sure it’s a toupee?

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 03:22 (three weeks ago)

i have not seen cbs evening news in a while. at least several months. i think john dickerson was the host.

that sign off / asskissing of marco rubio was disturbing. i didn’t realize things had gotten that bad. that is relentless creepy

z_tbd, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 03:44 (three weeks ago)

"you're the ultimate florida man."

Unless that mf'er has a air boat or a collection of air boats or is founder of an air boat superstore chain, you know that is not true.

earlnash, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 04:13 (three weeks ago)

You know Little Marco has gotten some serious shite since he was a kid about those Dumbo ears. Dude could pass for Vulcan with those things. All these dudes are rich kids that got bullied and got richer or rich friends so they could get their revenge.

earlnash, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 04:15 (three weeks ago)

I don't think CBS quite gets what the world means when it says 'Florida man'

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 04:29 (three weeks ago)

TIL our next-generation fighter boondoggle is going to be named the F-47.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 07:28 (three weeks ago)

what a fucking whining needy loser

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 10:14 (three weeks ago)

Jan Schakowsky is endorsing Daniel Biss in IL-9; she reportedly didn't like that Kat Abughazeleh got into the race before she (Schakowsky) retired and that Abu never reached out to her afterward. Biss is a well-liked suburban mayor with deep progressive ties in Illinois and is just barely behind Abu in fundraising. So I feel like that is probably the ballgame.

jaymc, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 13:46 (three weeks ago)

("retired" should be "announced her retirement")

jaymc, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 13:49 (three weeks ago)

ICE agents shot and killed a protester in Minneapolis. They're using the "she tried to ram us" excuse they've used for several other acts of violence, including the woman they shot in Chicago. The only video I've seen makes it look like the car was actually trying to get away from an ICE agent, who then shot to stop them.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 18:24 (three weeks ago)

There are now two videos out there, it was cold blooded murder. Plain and simple. ICE is a domestic terrorist group.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 18:35 (three weeks ago)

I watched a couple videos of it and...god, it's even worse than you think. the idea that any of these goons were in any danger at all is insane. she was clearly trying to get away, going maybe 3 miles per hour, no ICE agents are anywhere near the front of the car, and one of them just runs up and shoots her in the head

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 18:36 (three weeks ago)

Awful. "They were trying to ram us" is the new "he was going for my gun."

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 18:38 (three weeks ago)

Yeah that narrative is not gonna work this time, gestapo.

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 18:40 (three weeks ago)

It’s straight murder but I guarantee no one will be prosecuted

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 18:42 (three weeks ago)

Here's that close-up video. So clear that the driver is trying to leave — which is presumably what ICE wants, since she was blocking their way — except that they're trying to arrest her and coming at the car aggressively and saying "Get out of the fucking car!" I'm sure she was scared and just reacted instinctively by trying to get away. The agent in front of her was obviously in no danger and she was obviously not trying to hit him, she was steering around him, and he just ... killed her.

https://bsky.app/profile/adamparkhomenko.bsky.social/post/3mbu42ycrsc2u

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 18:43 (three weeks ago)

Minneapolis absolutely ought to investigate and prosecute as a murder, even though that'll kick up a huge shitstorm. With the end result possibly being a "qualified immunity" ruling that will essentially give ICE the green light to shoot anyone who gets in their way.

But they have to at least try to hold them accountable, what else can you do?

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 18:45 (three weeks ago)

I don't think anyone will be held accountable but it does seem like a good time for actual news networks to report the facts, "Trump's goons are murdering citizens in broad daylight" feels like a pretty goddamn big story

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 18:48 (three weeks ago)

Well the investigation is being turned over to the FBI so nothing to worry about.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 18:48 (three weeks ago)

In the video you can hear her clearly saying to the agent, "I'm trying to go around," and he says, "Get out of the fucking car," and three seconds later she's shot. Just insane.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 18:48 (three weeks ago)

Jesus Christ, we are only seven days into the new year. Seven days and it’s already a horrifying shitshow on multiple fronts, escalated significantly from just a month ago.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 18:51 (three weeks ago)

The Mayor just called ICE's self-defense narrative garbage

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 18:51 (three weeks ago)

the mayor said

'Get the fuck out of Minneapolis'

z_tbd, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:00 (three weeks ago)

i like this mayor!

z_tbd, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:00 (three weeks ago)

ICE is describing the woman as a 'rioter'

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:01 (three weeks ago)

reminded of another crystal-clear Minneapolis video, that of George Floyd's murder

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:03 (three weeks ago)

There's still another longer video from the other side of the car that doesn't even make it look like she's blocking the road, more like she was waiting for another car to pull out and pass her. That's why she tells the ICE guy "I'm trying to go around." And also there is not any kind of riot going on at all, it's a very peaceful scene until the ICE guy gets out of his truck and comes at her.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:07 (three weeks ago)

ICE is describing the woman as a 'rioter'

She was a mother that seemed to be caught in the middle of whatever they were up to

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:11 (three weeks ago)

I don't see anybody being prosecuted, but the anger about this is going to be palpable even among more neutral folks. the demonization campaign will continue but the video is out there and the family is going to speak out. gotta be loud af about this shit. kids were orphaned because of this act of aggression

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:17 (three weeks ago)

i like this mayor!

you may be the only one. pretty sure all political sides hate him

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:19 (three weeks ago)

it's huge in the news right now, if that means anything

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:19 (three weeks ago)

“We're continuing to gather more information, but this goes to show the assaults that our ICE officers and our law enforcement are under every single day,” Noem told reporters. “These vehicle rammings are domestic acts of terrorism. We're working with the Department of Justice to prosecute them as such.”

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:22 (three weeks ago)

Brandon Hewitt, who is new to the neighborhood, said he was getting up around 8:30 a.m. when he heard three gunshots. He then looked outside and said he saw that a vehicle had crashed.

"I’m pretty right-leaning, but seeing this, this is not what you need to do," he told KARE. "It’s not how to do it. It’s not how we’re supposed to do things around here in America."

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:23 (three weeks ago)

Noem and McLaughlin are going to get a very boutique cell in Hell

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:23 (three weeks ago)

Am I losing my mind or is the Trump administration doing... some good shit today?

BREAKING: President Trump announces steps to ban large institutional investors from buying single-family homes.

"People live in homes, not corporations." - President Donald J. Trump 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/MvG2mGodR2

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) January 7, 2026


BREAKING: The Trump Administration announces the 2025-2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans, putting REAL FOOD back at the center of health. 🇺🇸https://t.co/tkGF01onpm pic.twitter.com/1zTLSKdE7R

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) January 7, 2026

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:34 (three weeks ago)

stopped clock, etc

vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:35 (three weeks ago)

I'd the same thought when I saw the FDA announcement a few minutes ago.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:37 (three weeks ago)

Investors can't buy single-family homes. only Amazon can. and then they will rent them out with discounts on rent for Prime members

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:37 (three weeks ago)

yes if the murder in broad daylight wasn't enough the fact that they are slandering her as a violent rioter who was trying to hurt an ICE agent despite the footage showing nothing close to that is so infuriating

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:38 (three weeks ago)

This was just reported on British evening news (C4) with only the statement from ICE and some footage.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:40 (three weeks ago)

is the Trump administration doing... some good shit today?

this statement will never be true! nothing this fuckhead does is good there is always some shady shit behind it.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:41 (three weeks ago)

they are really going for the "she was a domestic terrorist" route. ghouls. they all deserve to rot.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:41 (three weeks ago)

xxxpost it'll play with the usual crowds, but usually the main reason the 'official' narrative succeeds on any major level is due to there being no video available to the public immediately, or the video being a bit ambiguous. here the video came out fast and it was plainly obvious what happened.

the other thing is that these actions are being carried out by ICE, so city/state officials don't mind publicly questioning their narratives and putting them on blast as opposed to their own police, who they'd largely avoid criticizing

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:43 (three weeks ago)

this statement will never be true! nothing this fuckhead does is good there is always some shady shit behind it.

― (•̪●) (carne asada),

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:43 (three weeks ago)

i mean how the fuck could it be 'ramming', all of the agents were on the side but one, and none were directly in front

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:46 (three weeks ago)

the car was also moving like maybe 3 mph

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:48 (three weeks ago)

my father ran over my foot at that speed one and it didn't even hurt

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:49 (three weeks ago)

*once

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:49 (three weeks ago)

(it was an accident obv)

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:49 (three weeks ago)

my father ran over my foot at that speed one and it didn't even hurt

― Morning Dew key (Neanderthal),

heh, my dad ran over a dog with a hunting buggy at that speed; the dog didn't blink.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:50 (three weeks ago)

Walz speaking at 2:15

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:50 (three weeks ago)

like this change!

Alcohol limits removed

The new guidelines roll back previous recommendations to limit alcohol to 1 drink or less per day for women and 2 drinks or less per day for men.

Instead, the guidance advises Americans to "consume less alcohol for better health." They also say that alcohol should be avoided by pregnant women, people recovering from alcohol use disorder and those who are unable to control the amount they drink.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:52 (three weeks ago)

My daughter's school is in lockdown because ICE agents are prowling around

I hate it here

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:53 (three weeks ago)

I literally used to drive by that corner every day to work

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:53 (three weeks ago)

are any mpls ppl going to vigil tn? or there now?

budo jeru, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:54 (three weeks ago)

the role of institutional investors in driving housing prices up is somewhat overstated, varies by market, and also doesn’t affect apartment renters (maybe some benefit to housing renters). The Washington DC area has almost no institutional investors that we can find and yet the cost of housing is also through the roof.

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:57 (three weeks ago)

https://housingmatters.urban.org/articles/what-policymakers-should-know-about-institutional-investors-role-housing-market

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:57 (three weeks ago)

they are really going for the "she was a domestic terrorist" route. ghouls. they all deserve to rot.

She was a 37-year-old married woman in an SUV, and I'm sure we're going to learn a whole lot about her. I have a feeling she is going to be very hard to paint as any kind of terrorist.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:59 (three weeks ago)

Stay safe, Twin Cities!

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:59 (three weeks ago)

xp - sending good thoughts your way ums, it's a horrible feeling. my son's school ended up in lockdown on three separate days because of ICE.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 19:59 (three weeks ago)

on the other hand you are also wrong and fuck these corporations and anyone who defends them

https://jpia.princeton.edu/news/rise-institutional-investors-us-rental-housing-market

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 20:02 (three weeks ago)

that was an xpost to Boring

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 20:03 (three weeks ago)

trump urges GOP to run on his wildly popular policies

WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump encouraged House Republicans to campaign this year on his priorities – border security, opposition to transgender athletes and tax cuts – because losing control of the House could lead to another impeachment.

“It’s a road map to victory,” Trump said. “You have so many good nuggets. You’ve got to use them.”

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 20:11 (three weeks ago)

the nuggets are actually dingleberries

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 20:12 (three weeks ago)

Boring hating Trump so much he defends Blackrock

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 20:12 (three weeks ago)

Blackstone not BlackRock (lol)

rob, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 20:22 (three weeks ago)

anyway, we'll see: "It was not immediately clear what legal authority Trump would draw upon to impose such a ban on the private market purchases of houses. Trump did not detail the policy, the form it would take or the legal changes he was seeking from Congress."

rob, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 20:23 (three weeks ago)

Some states have been talking about enacting similar restrictions on investor purchases of homes, and I've wondered about the legality of that. It's true that corporate investors have mostly been a smallish part of the home market, a study in our city suggested they were less than 10 percent or so during the big housing price run-up. But 10 percent is not nothing, and there's no guarantee they'd stay at 10 percent either. If there's a way to rein in corporate landlords in any part of the market, it seems like a good idea to me. Just not positive they can actually do that.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 20:30 (three weeks ago)

Reports from Minneapolis say there was a medic on the scene at the time of the shooting and ICE wouldn’t allow them to attend the victim.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 20:33 (three weeks ago)

xp I just don't know what the federal govt can do about it, unless it's mortgage regulations or something.. but a lot of these firms pay cash ("We Buy Ugly Houses" etc)

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 20:34 (three weeks ago)

I'm not an economist (flopson to thread?), but I would guess that the percentage of housing stock is ultimately less important than the impact of institutional investors raising rents or limiting supply on rental markets. My understanding is that the latter has been shown to be true, but it probably depends on who you listen to / which studies you trust

rob, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 20:35 (three weeks ago)

Reports from Minneapolis say there was a medic on the scene at the time of the shooting and ICE wouldn’t allow them to attend the victim.

Yeah I’m hearing they denied her life saving services

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 20:36 (three weeks ago)

on the other hand you are also wrong and fuck these corporations and anyone who defends them

https://jpia.princeton.edu/news/rise-institutional-investors-us-rental-housing-market🕸

i wasn’t defending them!

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 20:57 (three weeks ago)

Do not post a screenshot of the shit Trump said about the dead woman moments ago.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:00 (three weeks ago)

I know this is Brer Rabbit shit but wow

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:01 (three weeks ago)

Boring hating Trump so much he defends Blackrock

i’m not defending them! it’s just not going to be the magic bullet for lowering housing prices! also the housing market has been out of whack for about 25 years in the DC area when land values started exceeding the value of the improvements. anyway what would really help is wage earnings not stagnating for 50 years.

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:02 (three weeks ago)

I haven't seen that, but I did see a photo of their glovebox overflowing with stuffed animals :(

xp

rob, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:03 (three weeks ago)

Trump's statement is so over the top evil that I didn't believe it was real at first, it's even worse than the official DHS statement and what Noem said

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:04 (three weeks ago)

The fucking cop ran to his car and bounced

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:05 (three weeks ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/patriottakes.bsky.social/post/3mbu67vp67c2q

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:06 (three weeks ago)

I know this is Brer Rabbit shit but wow

― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, January 7, 2026 4:01 PM bookmarkflaglink

holy fuck, you weren't kidding. it's just an outright alternate reality

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:06 (three weeks ago)

Trump also posted it with a clip that shows her car accelerating quickly — which it did, after they had already shot her. She was almost certainly not in control of it at all at that point. But that's going to be the clip they play on Fox etc, because it looks like she's driving like a madwoman (when she was already presumably dead or almost).

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:07 (three weeks ago)

thanks for not posting it here y'all

vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:07 (three weeks ago)

ICE has been happily recruiting the dregs of society for months now, not like these are well-trained police officers.. this was bound to happen

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:08 (three weeks ago)

I just banged my foot into a door. It's hard to believe I'm still alive!

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:09 (three weeks ago)

i hate the misuse of the word gaslighting, but this is one time it's completely appropo

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:11 (three weeks ago)

the nuggets are actually dingleberries

― Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, January 7, 2026 2:12 PM (fifty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:11 (three weeks ago)

I suspect more footage will emerge as neighbors start checking their Ring cameras, etc

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:14 (three weeks ago)

this particular fire is going to keep getting a steady stream of rocket fuel, so hope you enjoyed your weekend break from talking about topics you don't wanna talk about Donnie

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:18 (three weeks ago)

it's entirely possible the clown ICE agent went to the hospital just to legitimize the thing but ffs the media has gotta report this for what it is

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:21 (three weeks ago)

well there's also the fact that there was a huge ICE buildup in the Twin Cities just to target Somalis specifically, which in itself is fucked up even before this cold-blooded murder

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:23 (three weeks ago)

Literally right after the shooting they hit a newly opened Mexican supermarket in Richfield (a working class suburb not too far south of where the shooting happened)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:26 (three weeks ago)

I’m a little scared of what I might do if I saw these fucks in my neighborhood

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:31 (three weeks ago)

One thing I've noticed about "rioters" is that they are often in cars and are heading away from tense scenes

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:31 (three weeks ago)

I see Walz finally used the "have you no decency" line, good for him

vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:34 (three weeks ago)

xp - yeah that was there MO here too, instantly after causing chaos, beating the shit out of a driver and pointing guns at the bystanders, ICE immediately took off to cause havoc a few miles away.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:34 (three weeks ago)

Good Walz line: "This is governing by reality TV"

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:40 (three weeks ago)

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem is expected to go to Minneapolis Wednesday after an ICE-involved shooting in the city, according to a Homeland Security official.

Noem was in Minnesota for a targeted operation Tuesday and was at the US southern border earlier Wednesday when she first publicly weighed in on the shooting.

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:42 (three weeks ago)

After watching all of the available videos a few more times, I think the sequence is this: She is in her car, ready to pull out. She is not blocking the street. One car, I think an ICE vehcile, pulls out from behind her and easily passes by her, and she starts to roll forward a little to pull out herself — but then she sees the ICE truck coming and stops to let them go by her too. If she was a legal observer, as various reports suggest, probably she was planning to let the ICE vehicles by and then follow them to wherever they were going next.

But instead of going by her, the guy driving the ICE truck stops and decides to turn this into a confrontation with her. As he's walking toward her, she waves her arm and says a bit plaintively, "Just go around." (Not "I'm trying to go around," which is what I thought at first.) He barks, "Get out of the car, get out of the fucking car!" and starts pulling at her door handle. She then I think just figured OK, I should drive away since they're making a big deal out of it. She is 100% definitely not "trying to hit" the guy at her front left corner, whom she may or may not have even been aware of, and her wheels are clearly turned to head up the street, not toward him. That guy had his hand on her car — which was entirely his choice, of course — and so it looks like he maybe got pushed back a little, but again, she was turning away from him and he was clear of the vehicle almost immediately. At which point he shot and killed her. ICE entirely created this confrontation. She was just waving them by her.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:43 (three weeks ago)

yeah, having played a ton of street football growing up, this is no diff than if someone was making a U-turn next to us. all the ICE agent needed to do to be a safe distance away is take a short step to the left, but he leans into the path of the vehicle almost as if he's making a meal out of things

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:45 (three weeks ago)

And then leans into her window as he's shooting her.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:46 (three weeks ago)

this is maybe one of the least ambiguous police shootings ever. Trump admin is going to go on a full-frontal PR assault to continue to hammer that this was an attempted ramming, to try and make this another Kilmar Abrego Garcia where they can't admit any wrongdoing, so now it's the press's job to do still by still shots and say "where was the ICE agent struck? where? can you show us?" at every press conference

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:49 (three weeks ago)

on that note

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem is set to hold a news conference from Minneapolis this evening at 6 p.m. ET/ 5 p.m. CT.

Earlier today, she told reporters that the ICE agent who fatally shot the driver acted "to protect himself and the people around him.”

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:49 (three weeks ago)

"the terrorist was making Antifa hand gestures out the window to signal the rest of the cell to attack" probably

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:50 (three weeks ago)

See, but watched the video with your lefty ACAB glasses on.

Every real Republican American watched the same footage (but different glasses on) and came to the opposite conclusion. 100% justified self-defense by heroes.

Which is part of why we are where we are, I guess. Everyone heard ICE shot a protestor and rushed to confirm their vision of "ICE" and "protestor."

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:50 (three weeks ago)

i just saw some police apologist on NBC so i wouldn't expect much from this media

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:51 (three weeks ago)

Antifa hand gesture🖕🏻🖕🏼🖕🏽🖕🏾🖕🏿

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:52 (three weeks ago)

Republicans probably didn't watch the footage at all, Republicans hate protesters and think they should be killed because they "don't work and block roads", so they can draw the conclusion immediately

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:53 (three weeks ago)

not ideal timing for walz to be front and center

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:54 (three weeks ago)

I made the mistake of reading the comments under a local news channel’s post, and the glib MAGA posters are out in force. Apparently all we have to do is what they tell us to do, and nobody gets hurt.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:55 (three weeks ago)

aren't these the same people still crying about being told to wear a mask 6 years ago

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:56 (three weeks ago)

Xps Right, but it took about five minutes for the narrative to be disputed and sides taken, so the headline is hat it's immediately shelved under bothsidesy "interpretations differ so we report on the controversy."

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:56 (three weeks ago)

the only reason the narrative was disputed is because there was already a Federal narrative! pre-Trump, it was usually that news of the incident trickle in, with angry civilians suggesting it was police brutality with government officials urging patience as we allow investigation to play out, but they were the ones that shat the first piece of narrative out before most of us even knew it had happened

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 21:58 (three weeks ago)

My sympathies with all the Twin Cities posters and their loved ones.

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 22:01 (three weeks ago)

feels like a watershed moment for whatever remains of our media, obviously they lie about this kind of shit all the time but this time there's very clear video evidence showing the ICE agent was never remotely in danger and had no justification whatsoever for shooting her beyond "he wanted to", essentially the complete opposite of what official government sources are saying

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 22:02 (three weeks ago)

wonder how many people Noem will have arrested at her presser this time

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 22:14 (three weeks ago)

I want everyone who voted for this admin, every person in this admin, and every ICE agent and police officer in the US to die a painful, quick death.

Us decent people would be better off without them here

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 22:20 (three weeks ago)

Otfm

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 22:39 (three weeks ago)

The name of the murdered woman was Renee Macklin-Good, a 37yo mother of one who was widowed in 2023.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 22:43 (three weeks ago)

Reports of ice, breaking windows and tear gasket at my daughter's school. I'm getting in the car now to go over there

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 22:47 (three weeks ago)

Jfc i’m so sorry, stay as safe as possible.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 22:48 (three weeks ago)

oh my god my sister is at her church off Lake Street right now

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 22:49 (three weeks ago)

Eyewitness on contradictory orders: get out of the car, drive it away etc., and how it all went down:
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/07/shooting-south-minneapolis-ice-agents-federal-operation

dow, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 22:49 (three weeks ago)

Reports of ice, breaking windows and tear gasket at my daughter's school. I'm getting in the car now to go over there

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, January 7, 2026 5:47 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Love to you, ums

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 23:04 (three weeks ago)

Reports of ice, breaking windows and tear gasket at my daughter's school. I'm getting in the car now to go over there

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, January 7, 2026 2:47 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

jesus christ man. please be safe

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 23:06 (three weeks ago)

Co-signed

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 23:07 (three weeks ago)

the role of institutional investors in driving housing prices up is somewhat overstated, varies by market, and also doesn’t affect apartment renters (maybe some benefit to housing renters)

It's the one year anniversary of the Eaton & Palisades Fires and 40%-44% of the burned up vacant lots have been sold to corporate buyers

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 23:19 (three weeks ago)

(source: https://laist.com/news/housing-homelessness/los-angeles-fires-january-2025-redfin-investor-purchase-empty-lots-sales )

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 23:20 (three weeks ago)

Love to you and yours, UMS

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 23:28 (three weeks ago)

love to you and your daughter, ums. fuck ICE

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 23:32 (three weeks ago)

okay just got back. I talked to school staff that was still outside the building. at about 3:45 ICE was in car pursuit of someone and they either crashed or skidded out in front of the school. They all ran up on school property, teachers formed a circle around the person to try to protect them. ICE released tear gas or a chemical agent. Took two people, I'm assuming an observer and the person they were chasing.

if there are any inaccuracies in this I don't know, but that's what I was told by people on the scene who were there. I'm sure it all happened very fast and was chaotic.

thankfully school gets out at 3:10 so most kids had been picked up by then.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 23:34 (three weeks ago)

we're living in a nightmare

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 January 2026 23:39 (three weeks ago)

This was posted in the local Ring app
The tall structure in the background is the steeple of an old modernist church across the street from Roosevelt

https://i.postimg.cc/PxySFq5R/Screenshot-20260107-174046.png

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 23:50 (three weeks ago)

wish it was much colder in the Twin Cities but they would just be elsewhere

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 23:56 (three weeks ago)

_the role of institutional investors in driving housing prices up is somewhat overstated, varies by market, and also doesn’t affect apartment renters (maybe some benefit to housing renters)_

It's the one year anniversary of the Eaton & Palisades Fires and 40%-44% of the burned up vacant lots have been sold to corporate buyers

I wasn’t saying it has no effect! But the insanity on hosing prices has started about the turn of the millennium. I must emphasize that. I totally agree with the re-distributive recommendations of the link that table shared.

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 23:59 (three weeks ago)

Oh jesus so sorry UMS.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 January 2026 23:59 (three weeks ago)

We are still fucked from the 2008 crash and have been behind on new home construction since

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:05 (three weeks ago)

Xp

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:05 (three weeks ago)

I've seen a video on the Ring app I don't know how to post but whatever details might be off the story I posted is generally true

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:07 (three weeks ago)

My nephew goes to Roosevelt but was already gone, holy shit

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:14 (three weeks ago)

Noem continuing to repeat the lie as expected

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:15 (three weeks ago)

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries on X on Wednesday: "Kristi Noem is a stone-cold liar who has zero credibility. There is nothing to suggest the shooting of an unarmed woman in Minneapolis was justified. This heinous killing must be criminally investigated to the full extent of the law."

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:19 (three weeks ago)

"Where were all you crybabies when Ashli Babbitt was gunned down!!"

Have we heard this yet?

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:22 (three weeks ago)

At my local watering hole I sat a few feet from a regular, in tears because she'd just learned one of her students, an honor student, was arrested by ICE, thrown down on the asphalt and arm broken as he was dragged away. All I could do was hug her and say, you're not alone.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:23 (three weeks ago)

jesus

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:24 (three weeks ago)

>> House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries on X on Wednesday: "Kristi Noem is a stone-cold liar who has zero credibility. There is nothing to suggest the shooting of an unarmed woman in Minneapolis was justified. This heinous killing must be criminally investigated to the full extent of the law."

And not a word about affordability or kitchen-table issues. He's off message! Someone rein in this loose cannon!

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:25 (three weeks ago)

How often do real cops deal with actual suspects shot and kill somebody in similar situations? I’m sure it happens enough but this shit was so amateur it’s insane to defend it.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:25 (three weeks ago)

ICE is hiring all the guys who are too dumb to be regular cops.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:37 (three weeks ago)

^^^

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:45 (three weeks ago)

It's just giving the worst asshole at every townie shithole bar in America a gun

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:46 (three weeks ago)

that's certainly what it looks and feels like

budo jeru, Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:49 (three weeks ago)

Our local sheriff’s department (which is full of really dumb fucks) has shot and killed at least two people in recent years who were “trying to run them over.” In both cases the guys they killed were clearly just trying to get away, not run anyone over. One of them was a shoplifter who’d been chased out into the parking lot, I don’t remember the other situation but it was something likewise minor. Both shootings ruled justified of course.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:49 (three weeks ago)

glad to see hakeem write so directly about this. absolute insane thuggery.

treeship., Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:49 (three weeks ago)

ICE is not a law enforcement agency in any normal sense of the word. it's the paramilitary wing of MAGA.

treeship., Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:54 (three weeks ago)

just heard a former ICE director (under Obama) and he confirmed that the current admin has lowered hiring standards and shortened the training period

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 January 2026 00:57 (three weeks ago)

lowering standards and also incentivizing people to do things like this. just read trump's statement. he thinks what happened was fine and that this is what everyone who dares question him deserves.

treeship., Thursday, 8 January 2026 01:11 (three weeks ago)

yeah they know they’ll be pardoned of any federal charges

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 January 2026 01:17 (three weeks ago)

ICE recruitment, aka "DEI for CHUDs"

Tell me who sends these infamous .gifs (bernard snowy), Thursday, 8 January 2026 02:11 (three weeks ago)

This is good

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTOoYDBAD3c/?igsh=eHJ2NzRidGx5d3Zz

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 8 January 2026 02:19 (three weeks ago)

https://www.nplusonemag.com/issue-51/politics/yanis-two-days-talking-to-people-looking-for-jobs-at-ice-2/

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Thursday, 8 January 2026 02:19 (three weeks ago)

Minneapolis Public Schools just called off school for the next two days for safety concerns

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 January 2026 03:01 (three weeks ago)

xxp that is indeed a good statement and

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 January 2026 03:04 (three weeks ago)

a friend noted that Renee Nicole Good, under her old last name, won a prominent poetry prize a few years ago.

https://poets.org/2020-on-learning-to-dissect-fetal-pigs

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 8 January 2026 03:44 (three weeks ago)

one thing I remember about George Floyd is there were a lot of rightwing shitheads developing a narrative right away implying he deserved it which caused media coverage to do some bothsides shit but the video footage made it so clear that it outlasted the astroturfing, think something similar is going to happen here. I think they are way way way way overplaying their hand with this, especially now that her face and name is out there, her family already suffered one unthinkable tragedy, I really don't think anyone is gonna buy this "professional agitator" shit. I'm not really hearing the rank-and-file Republicans repeat it either. I mean fucking hell Trump literally said "thank God the officer got out of the hospital okay" I think even his own people have to know how fucking awful that is

frogbs, Thursday, 8 January 2026 03:57 (three weeks ago)

tabes thx for the johnson msg xp

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:03 (three weeks ago)

I don't know if it's useful at all, but I've been venting my anger and sadness today by arguing with people in comments sections and the like. There's so much shit being pushed out there, and it feels necessary if totally inadequate to push back against it. The truth of this thing is very much under attack — the irony of this coming right after Jan. 6 is too much — and it and needs to be defended. Plus also it feels good to call people out sometimes. Some of them live in information environments where almost nobody challenges their bullshit views or versions of things. My favorite was the woman who immediately said "Oh well I just leave it all up to God, it's in His hands" when I challenged her, and I got to pull a whole "false witness" thing on her.

I guess it's depressing how many eager bootlickers there are, but can't be surprising at this point.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:06 (three weeks ago)

I've been doing it too. The bootlickers are just blatantly lying saying dude got hit hard in the hip.

He apparently did go to the hospital. I assume his pain started the moment he looked at his cell phone and saw Noem on called ID.

One of my punk friends just decided to threaten to beat up every bootlicker who replied to him which was a different, effective method

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:09 (three weeks ago)

I really don't think it's going to work for very long, these people immediately saw the rightwing spin and it feeds right into the narrative that's been forced down their throats, the video of this is getting around pretty quick and i just don't think the reality distortion field is that strong

frogbs, Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:12 (three weeks ago)

even this JUST DO WHAT THE OFFICER SAYS bullshit is gonna fade, it's literally three seconds between "GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE CAR" and her getting killed in broad daylight

frogbs, Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:14 (three weeks ago)

also to state the obvious here the median conservative take on George Floyd was "okay maybe there are some bad apples but we don't need to do anything about it" because they themselves as not black men don't really have to worry about something like that happening to them. this was just some random white mom who might've not even been a protestor

frogbs, Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:18 (three weeks ago)

so we’re withdrawing from some clubs:

Sec. 2. Organizations from Which the United States Shall Withdraw. (a) Non-United Nations Organizations:
(i) 24/7 Carbon-Free Energy Compact;
(ii) Colombo Plan Council;
(iii) Commission for Environmental Cooperation;
(iv) Education Cannot Wait;
(v) European Centre of Excellence for Countering
Hybrid Threats;
(vi) Forum of European National Highway Research Laboratories;
(vii) Freedom Online Coalition;
(viii) Global Community Engagement and Resilience Fund;
(ix) Global Counterterrorism Forum;
(x) Global Forum on Cyber Expertise;
(xi) Global Forum on Migration and Development;
(xii) Inter-American Institute for Global Change Research;
(xiii) Intergovernmental Forum on Mining, Minerals, Metals, and Sustainable Development;
(xiv) Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change;
(xv) Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services;
(xvi) International Centre for the Study of the Preservation and Restoration of Cultural Property;
(xvii) International Cotton Advisory Committee;
(xviii) International Development Law Organization;
(xix) International Energy Forum;
(xx) International Federation of Arts Councils and Culture Agencies;
(xxi) International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance;
(xxii) International Institute for Justice and the Rule of Law;
(xxiii) International Lead and Zinc Study Group;
(xxiv) International Renewable Energy Agency;
(xxv) International Solar Alliance;
(xxvi) International Tropical Timber Organization;
(xxvii) International Union for Conservation of Nature;
(xxviii) Pan American Institute of Geography and History;
(xxix) Partnership for Atlantic Cooperation;
(xxx) Regional Cooperation Agreement on Combatting Piracy and Armed Robbery against Ships in Asia;
(xxxi) Regional Cooperation Council;
(xxxii) Renewable Energy Policy Network for the 21st Century;
(xxxiii) Science and Technology Center in Ukraine;
(xxxiv) Secretariat of the Pacific Regional Environment Programme; and
(xxxv) Venice Commission of the Council of Europe.
(b) United Nations (UN) Organizations:
(i) Department of Economic and Social Affairs;
(ii) UN Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) — Economic Commission for Africa;
(iii) ECOSOC — Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean;
(iv) ECOSOC — Economic and Social Commission for Asia and the Pacific;
(v) ECOSOC — Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia;
(vi) International Law Commission;
(vii) International Residual Mechanism for Criminal Tribunals;
(viii) International Trade Centre;
(ix) Office of the Special Adviser on Africa;
(x) Office of the Special Representative of the Secretary General for Children in Armed Conflict;
(xi) Office of the Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Sexual Violence in Conflict;
(xii) Office of the Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Violence Against Children;
(xiii) Peacebuilding Commission;
(xiv) Peacebuilding Fund;
(xv) Permanent Forum on People of African Descent;
(xvi) UN Alliance of Civilizations;
(xvii) UN Collaborative Programme on Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation in Developing Countries;
(xviii) UN Conference on Trade and Development;
(xix) UN Democracy Fund;
(xx) UN Energy;
(xxi) UN Entity for Gender Equality and the Empowerment of Women;
(xxii) UN Framework Convention on Climate Change;
(xxiii) UN Human Settlements Programme;
(xxiv) UN Institute for Training and Research;
(xxv) UN Oceans;
(xxvi) UN Population Fund;
(xxvii) UN Register of Conventional Arms;
(xxviii) UN System Chief Executives Board for Coordination;
(xxix) UN System Staff College;
(xxx) UN Water; and
(xxxi) UN University.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:19 (three weeks ago)

xpost this has video, but here's what's said:

NPR and MPR have reviewed multiple videos of the shooting taken from different vantage points and posted to social media. The footage shows multiple officers near an SUV stopped in the middle of the road. One officer demands the driver exit the vehicle and grabs the car handle. The SUV reverses, then begins to drive forward, which is when a different officer near the front of the car pulls his weapon and fires into the vehicle. Three gunshots are heard, as the firing officer backs away from the SUV. Moments later, the vehicle crashes.
Which doesn't bear out Noem's claim, quoted here:
...She added that the ICE officer who fired his gun had been struck by the car and was taken to a hospital, where he was later released.

"It's clearly established law that a vehicle driven by a person and used to harm someone is a deadly weapon," she said. "Deadly force is perfectly lawful when a threat is faced by a weapon, so I do believe that this officer used his training in this situation."

fromhttps://www.npr.org/2026/01/07/nx-s1-5670289/ice-minneapolis-shooting-immigration-crackdown

dow, Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:21 (three weeks ago)

it's depressing how many eager bootlickers there are

some of it is the reluctance to admit you've been duped by a bunch of shameless liars. if there is any kind of a fig leaf offered that others seem to be accepting and you can save face by pretending it is all really OK, then you're going to stay on board rather than say "I have been a gullible fool."

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:21 (three weeks ago)

Apologists are fixated on the video that Trump posted, where it most looks the guy actually gets hit, because it's from a distance and kind of blurry. Also because it shows the car speeding away looking reckless and out of control — which is because she'd already been shot of course. But once you've seen the more close-up videos, you can see more accurately what's going on in the long-distance one.

I know lots of people are doing breakdowns, but I think this one does a good job with clear images of where the shooter is at all times.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16nxVxw9iu/

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:31 (three weeks ago)

yes, the plain facts do not bear out the alibi. but the very fact that the alibi has been formed and given the stamp of MAGA approval means that the deeply MAGAfied will prefer the groundless alibi over the facts for the simple reason that it doesn't require them to alter their belief system to accept it, but the obvious facts gravely threaten that belief system. because this is the case, the insistence on the truth of the alibi will be overwhelming from those who require it to be true.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:39 (three weeks ago)

it's depressing how many eager bootlickers there are

some of it is the reluctance to admit you've been duped by a bunch of shameless liars

I think bootlicking type activity often goes UP after things that are harder to defend, the same way fervency in cults often increases after end of the world predictions don't come through. More is now being asked of its adherents and the fervency goes up to make up the shortfall.

Though there are plenty that know exactly what happened and approve and would like to see more of it too

anvil, Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:47 (three weeks ago)

one image I keep seeing especially in comment threads is a frame of the moment he actually shoots, in which he's a solid foot away and the front of the car is clearly past him trying to turn away. I really don't know if they can ignore that longer than they ignored 7 minutes of footage of an officer's knee on George Floyd's neck

I just dont think this is going to work among people who aren't already fucking psychos, people who I'm guessing still remember the insanity in the aftermark of Charlie Kirk's killing, since it turns out your average Republican voter barely even knew who Charlie Kirk was

frogbs, Thursday, 8 January 2026 04:52 (three weeks ago)

The hold that FOX and similar propaganda outlets have patiently developed on the psyche of tens of millions of viewers/listeners can only be overcome by a shattering of the structure of lies by a truth so powerful it penetrates the individual to the point of utter surrender to it, over and over again.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 8 January 2026 05:04 (three weeks ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mbv3a2pevm2l

I mean look at this shit. They can't even say "we'll review the facts". They can't even acknowledge it was bad someone got shot. Even worse they had to actively slander her before anyone even knew who she was. I don't think this is going to play well even with FOX News viewers. They'll probably all forget about it in a week though

frogbs, Thursday, 8 January 2026 05:11 (three weeks ago)

It might peel some off here and there, but thats a process that happens over time not in response to an event

I think the bigger reason it will play with Fox viewers just fine is because people will watch a video of a tree with a man saying you are watching a video of a washing machine and will process it as a video of a washing machine. Especially when there are multiple videos describing the washing machine

And those that thought to themselves "isn't that a tree though" will remember it as a washing machine after a few minutes

anvil, Thursday, 8 January 2026 05:23 (three weeks ago)

so we’re withdrawing from some clubs:

Every single one of these organizations will be better off and will ultimately do better work without us.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 8 January 2026 05:25 (three weeks ago)

btw it's the 9th ICE shooting since September.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/07/us/ice-shootings-minneapolis-other-cities.html?unlocked_article_code=1.C1A.hFLj.On9ZT2d0mmgT&smid=url-share

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 January 2026 05:38 (three weeks ago)

...and apparently the first homicide this year in Minneapolis.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 January 2026 05:49 (three weeks ago)

it's worthless complaining about hypocrisy but god damn i remember when Obama saying a cop "acted stupidly" re: the Henry Louis Gates thing was him disgracing the office, interfering in a local police matter, obvious racial bias, etc, but now the government can just call a murder victim a domestic terrorist and it probably won't even get mentioned on the news after today.

JoeStork, Thursday, 8 January 2026 05:50 (three weeks ago)

I can absolutely guarantee that every piece of trash bootlicker commenting on politician and media pages right now saying ‘FAFO! Comply with LEOs or your dead!’ (sic intentional) spent their entire young adulthood whining about getting booked on DUI stops.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 8 January 2026 07:09 (three weeks ago)

H/T to former ilxor Matos, who found the prize-winning poem written by Nicole Good. You can read it here:

https://poets.org/2020-on-learning-to-dissect-fetal-pigs?fbclid=IwRlRTSAPMP0xleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEemvcYyb7EK2E_9rmy5_P-vILCNOy2Lo7GruRfujelhHCkBhq6zg_-ZvKztug_aem_Xm6oPuYLm7stJbkYM0xYVQ

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 8 January 2026 07:45 (three weeks ago)

so what if she WAS an “agitator”? you can just kill agitators now i guess

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 8 January 2026 08:29 (three weeks ago)

I’m hearing that ICE paid a visit to LITTLE EARTH aka America’s largest public housing scheme for indigenous American people. #FFS Only one group of agitators in MSP right now, and they’re all in camo and masks.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 8 January 2026 09:12 (three weeks ago)

I can’t believe they are lying and saying she was trying to ram officers with her car. Obviously she was panicked and driving away.

treeship., Thursday, 8 January 2026 11:02 (three weeks ago)

Personally I can believe it, treeship.

I can easily believe there's some equal-and-opposite I Love Cops board poster somewhere saying "I can't believe anybody can look at that video and see something other than a brave hero defending the peace against an unhinged protestor who has not complied with lawful instructions."

Example after example of different groups having exactly opposite conclusions and being like, I just can't understand why those people can't just see reason and sense.

Further I don't think either group is necessarily knowingly lying. They just have partisan glasses on, and they think the same of me.

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 8 January 2026 11:18 (three weeks ago)

Idk. I think they know she was fleeing but their prior is that “resisting arrest” (from an agency with ambiguous legal authority — an agency the governor and mayor don’t want in the city) is a good enough reason to kill someone. They know most people don’t agree so they make up that she was some kind of terrorist trying to run people down on the street. 37 year old mom, poet, no history of criminality.

treeship., Thursday, 8 January 2026 11:29 (three weeks ago)

I think it's more fluid than that. The video itself is irrelevant, what she was doing is irrelevant, what matters is who she was. But even the word "terrorist" is fluid

Millions of people support harm and death to others. Some of them apply to join organisations which give them the opportunity. Many don't. Football teams have more supporters than they do players.

anvil, Thursday, 8 January 2026 11:36 (three weeks ago)

I should say support harm to others without there being a reason. There doesn't need to be a reason, its intrinsic value can be the reason

anvil, Thursday, 8 January 2026 11:38 (three weeks ago)

You guys, stop speculating about whether Renee Good had any agency over where her car went - the car accelerated and crashed AFTER she was shot in the face by ICE.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 8 January 2026 12:17 (three weeks ago)

The video is crystal clear. The man was displeased because the driver was understandably unable to follow his incomprehensible, aggressive directions, and so he murdered her.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 8 January 2026 12:39 (three weeks ago)

he was trying to yank open her car door while she was moving just crazy behaviour

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 8 January 2026 12:43 (three weeks ago)

I don’t know when I’ve seen so many US bots and bootlickers commenting on British reporting sites!

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 8 January 2026 12:55 (three weeks ago)

What UK reporting sites even have comments sections now? Genuinely surprised there are any tbh!

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Thursday, 8 January 2026 12:58 (three weeks ago)

Stacey Patton otm:

Here we go again, Y'all. Let the ritual begin...

Did she comply? Was the car moving? How fast? At what angle? She tried to hit him. No she didn't. Obey law enforcement. Don’t make sudden moves. Follow instructions and you’ll be fine.

Folks keep replaying fragments of information about the Minneapolis ICE shooting as if the correct combination of obedience and posture might retroactively render Renee Nicole Good alive.

This is the language Americans have learned to speak when the state kills somebody. People talk like survival is a puzzle you solve correctly. Like there some precise choreography you must do to survive.

Hands positioned like so. Speed calibrated just right. Tone sufficiently deferential.

Folks really believe all that reliably protects civilians from armed agents of the state. The questions are a way of pretending that the outcome was avoidable if only the victim had performed citizenship more perfectly.

If the killing can be explained as a failure of compliance, then everybody watching gets to feel safer. Folks can tell themselves, "I would have done it differently." "I would have known better." "This won’t happen to me." You don't know what the fuck you would have done. Just stop.

...The brain’s job is not to perform obedience correctly. It is to keep the body alive by any means it can manage in the milliseconds available.

That’s why the compliance narrative is so fucking tired. It demands superhuman composure from civilians while excusing split-second lethal decisions from armed agents trained for force. It treats fear as evidence of guilt and instinct as intent. And it pretends that survival is a skill issue rather than a power issue.

So when people say I would have done it differently, what they’re really saying is I need to believe the system is predictable. Because if you accept that a person can follow instructions and STILL BE KILLED, if you accept that panic is not controllable and obedience is not protective, then the ground gives way beneath you. Then safety stops being something you earn and starts being something that is arbitrarily granted, or denied, by the state.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19UzXpEBir/

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:02 (three weeks ago)

From the so-called sane right: Good wasn't a terrorist, but ICE were correct to shoot her.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:06 (three weeks ago)

xp by reporting sites, I meant pages on social media for eg Novara and the Guardian where bots/bootlickers keep turning up to justify her killing because she was disobedient in some way. Fuck your obedience.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:07 (three weeks ago)

As is so often the case with law-enforcement shootings, so much of the conversation is starting in the wrong place. The focus is all on the details of the confrontation, rather than asking why the confrontation happened in the first place. The guy in the truck with the flashing lights could have just driven past her, like the car in front of him had just done. She was literally waving for them to go by her. Him stopping and getting out of his car is what actually initiated the confrontation. The entire situation was created by ICE — not just in the broad sense of their presence in the city, but in the specific sense that they chose to have an angry confrontation with her, when they could have just driven right by.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:13 (three weeks ago)

But that's anarchy.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:15 (three weeks ago)

also why is an immigration officer interacting with this woman in any way

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:18 (three weeks ago)

Funny how all these right-to-bear-arms anti-big government freedom lovers are fine with agents of the government agents roaming the streets killing people.

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:19 (three weeks ago)

The right insists on asking that because she blocked ICE agents before the confrontation she deserved to get stopped.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:19 (three weeks ago)

Which wouldn’t be true even if she had blocked them, but also there’s zero evidence she was blocking anyone, or trying to.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:28 (three weeks ago)

She was waving cars through

treeship., Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:29 (three weeks ago)

We will presumably get more information about all of this, but it seems to me the most likely scenario is that she had parked to observe ICE activity. Then as the activity wrapped up and the ICE vehicles went to move away, she prepared to depart as well. Maybe to follow them, who knows, but obviously she was getting ready to leave. You see that right in the beginning of the longest video clip. She starts to pull out, and then sees a car behind her pulling out so she stopped to let them go. Then the truck is coming next, and she just sits there waiting for them to go too. I don’t think she was blocking anything.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:30 (three weeks ago)

Good on them: https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis-ice-shooting-video.html

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:38 (three weeks ago)

being a protestor, or an “agitator”, or accidentally blocking a law enforcement vehicle, or driving away - she could have been/done all of these things, none of it is illegal or even dangerous obv ffs

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:40 (three weeks ago)

“I want to see nobody get shot. I want to see nobody screaming and trying to run over policemen either,” he told the Times.

But after watching a slow-motion surveillance video of the incident, Trump expressed discomfort and struggled to justify the agent’s response.

“It’s a terrible scene,” he told the Times, once the video concluded. “I think it’s horrible to watch. No, I hate to see it.”

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:45 (three weeks ago)

I don’t think America fully grasped the headache arguing with a Somali is https://t.co/3DX002j9hk

— osman a. (@ozahmed_) January 7, 2026

calzino, Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:46 (three weeks ago)

Multiple angles of what happened at Roosevelt, confirms they were spraying some kind of chemical agent

https://www.instagram.com/p/DTPINkejZBD/?img_index=1&igsh=MW9yb25lbDM0cXN6Nw==

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:47 (three weeks ago)

I think a lot of us are scared because we're seeing the physical manifestation of the dehumanizing rhetoric from the right from the last decade. That we're simply not people, we're traitors who don't know our place and we should be thankful we're allowed to live.

Shooting is bad enough, the Roosevelt video is horrifying. There is no basement to the depravity

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 13:51 (three weeks ago)

one image I keep seeing especially in comment threads is a frame of the moment he actually shoots, in which he's a solid foot away and the front of the car is clearly past him trying to turn away. I really don't know if they can ignore that longer than they ignored 7 minutes of footage of an officer's knee on George Floyd's neck

but many people are not seeing that frame. the nyt's forensic video mentions that trump and his followers are publicizing a grainy video from a distance that makes it look like the ice agent was rammed by the car. i expect that is the only video that many people will ever see.

jaymc, Thursday, 8 January 2026 14:01 (three weeks ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mbv3a2pevm2l🕸

I mean look at this shit. They can't even say "we'll review the facts". They can't even acknowledge it was bad someone got shot. Even worse they had to actively slander her before anyone even knew who she was. I don't think this is going to play well even with FOX News viewers. They'll probably all forget about it in a week though

It’s because they are making war on us.

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 January 2026 14:14 (three weeks ago)

🐦[I don’t think America fully grasped the headache arguing with a Somali is https://t.co/3DX002j9hk🕸
— osman a. (@ozahmed_) January 7, 2026🕸]🐦

good on this guy

PS: Uber is an evil company. This is not a defense of Uber. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 January 2026 14:29 (three weeks ago)

My friend sells shirts that read “THE MORAL PANIC IS ABOUT ME!!!” and it seems more apt than ever.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 8 January 2026 14:30 (three weeks ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mbv3a2pevm2l

pronouns in bio and having a lesbian partner are now capital offenses.

treeship., Thursday, 8 January 2026 14:40 (three weeks ago)

xpost

he's just a driver, he's not an Uber executive.

I didn't watch the whole thing yet, but cracked up at "that's a periodic element. that's just a number"

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 8 January 2026 14:42 (three weeks ago)

My “Conservatives are targeting everyone” shirt also feels more apt every year.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 8 January 2026 14:42 (three weeks ago)

conservative is too polite a word for these people

treeship., Thursday, 8 January 2026 14:44 (three weeks ago)

pronouns in bio and having a lesbian partner are now capital offenses.

not looking forward to the right discovering that good's wife (from what i can tell) is a political organizer who once contributed to a book titled "how to get stupid white men out of office."

jaymc, Thursday, 8 January 2026 15:04 (three weeks ago)

jesse twatters is the worst

c u (crüt), Thursday, 8 January 2026 15:08 (three weeks ago)

something I only noticed watching the NYT's video analysis (which is excellent, yes): the killer has his phone in his left hand the entire time

rob, Thursday, 8 January 2026 15:15 (three weeks ago)

Trump says the killer is recovering in a hospital and lucky to be alive. They are just blatantly gaslighting.

treeship., Thursday, 8 January 2026 15:20 (three weeks ago)

he apparently did go to the hospital but I guarantee he was told to go there to sell the narrative

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 15:26 (three weeks ago)

Meanwhile Vance has this to say...

"Every congressional Democrat and every Democrat who’s running for president should be asked a simple question: Do you think this officer was wrong in defending his life against a deranged leftist who tried to run him over?"

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 January 2026 15:28 (three weeks ago)

I'd also like to know that.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 January 2026 15:29 (three weeks ago)

they're going to be answering questions about this four months from now. enjoy the ride, Vance

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 15:29 (three weeks ago)

it makes me feel like I'm going insane. there is actual video of this. it is not ambiguous in the slightest. and they're selling it to people who have probably spent an entire afternoon breaking down the JFK footage frame by frame. the thing about these reality-distortion fields is they take a lot of work to maintain otherwise they break down quickly. we just saw this with Charlie Kirk, who was MLK and George Floyd and 9/11 rolled into one for like.....three days. nobody gave a shit about him even a week later apparently not even his wife

frogbs, Thursday, 8 January 2026 15:43 (three weeks ago)

btw Jeff Bezos' newspaper isn't having it either.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2026 15:45 (three weeks ago)

I think I have even more contempt for Vance than Trump because he has deliberately chosen evil.

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 January 2026 15:48 (three weeks ago)

OTM

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 January 2026 15:50 (three weeks ago)

I can believe that Trump never saw the actual video of what happened, but I am damn sure Vance did and is lying about it anyway

frogbs, Thursday, 8 January 2026 15:57 (three weeks ago)

Posted on FB by an acquaintance, a former Florida state legislator and prosecutor:

The Trumpers have tried to justify the murder of Renee Nicole Good by saying she tried to run over an Ice agent. Not only does the video evidence show the officer was not in the path of her vehicle, but there are also three other important factors showing that ICE’s claim is complete B.S. I know this, because when I was a prosecutor, I prosecuted cases of individuals accused of trying to run over a police officer as “Assault with a Motor Vehicle.”

First, the accused were almost all exclusively men. Women did not seem, at least statistically, to have acrimonious interactions with police officers. Second, I never witnessed a guilty verdict on any trial of these cases. If any of my former colleagues I have tagged saw a guilty verdict, please let me know in the comments. But speaking to jurors after the trial, they never seemed to think that the accused was actually trying to run over or harm the officer. This makes sense as the level of evil and depravity required to kill a law enforcement officer usually entails premeditation with a meathod of escape not found in public areas like busy streets. Lastly, and most important, in none of these cases, did the officer discharge a weapon, let alone, shoot the accused. Police officers go through extensive training to avoid discharging weapons unless absolutely necessary. The ICE officer in question was obviously NOT properly trained. This is a major problem. Untrained law enforcement with a directive to harass people they find “suspicious” has created a dangerous situation and people are rightfully weary of ICE.

A few weeks back, ICE agents in Key Largo, Florida stopped a US Citizen and forced her out of her car for no reason whatsoever. She was not speeding and was not given any citation. Agents appear to be harassing people just because they look “foreign.” For this reason, people are becoming rightfully suspicious of ICE. I have first-hand knowledge of LEGAL IMMIGRANTS who are afraid to travel within the State of Florida for fear of being stopped and harassed by ICE. It is because of this that ICE needs to leave American cities and go back to the border, where they were always designed to be.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2026 16:24 (three weeks ago)

glum comment in strike thru

the fact that this is a white presenting woman, regardless of sexuality, and the first picture of her released was her with the wind in her hair on vacation will make it harder for these idiots to wave away or, like, DARKEN HER SKIN and whatever the fuck shit they do to brown people

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 8 January 2026 16:30 (three weeks ago)

‪Aaron Rupar‬
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"The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension has just revealed that federal officials have 'reversed course,' and the investigation into the killing of a Minneapolis woman by an ICE agent will be conducted by the FBI without assistance from the BCA."

vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Thursday, 8 January 2026 16:31 (three weeks ago)

Definitely can't even begin to guess what Kash Patel and Pam Bondi are going to discover happened here.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 January 2026 16:44 (three weeks ago)

Putting together the last few days of the syllabus for my major class this semester, "Dissent in America," and I admit that looking at pictures of protests even 25 years ago is making me so sad and angry. We could have had a better world, we all wanted a better world. We still do.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 8 January 2026 16:52 (three weeks ago)

sounds #woke!

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2026 16:52 (three weeks ago)

not looking forward to the right discovering that good's wife (from what i can tell) is a political organizer who once contributed to a book titled "how to get stupid white men out of office."

― jaymc, Thursday, January 8, 2026 9:04 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

apologies for this misinformation. that person set up the gofundme, but she is not good's wife.

jaymc, Thursday, 8 January 2026 16:54 (three weeks ago)

xxpost I remember attending anti-IMF protests back in 2000. There was no shooting, no tear gas, no masked cops, no tanks, probably a lot fewer cameras. Everything so much worse now.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:17 (three weeks ago)

xp - and now the BCA can no longer access evidence, the coverup is on. fucked country.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:20 (three weeks ago)

I dunno, I got tear-gassed at the FTAA protests in Quebec in 2001. By the Mounties! (my only experience of tear gas. It was objectively interesting, but not something I would happily repeat.)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:21 (three weeks ago)

xpost i mean everybody has seen the key piece of evidence. they are going to bury what happened and dude won't be charged but we all know what happened and the more they retreat the angrier people are going to get.

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:24 (three weeks ago)

I was thrown in juvie for protesting the RNC in Philly in 2000. That was my first but not final experience with tear gas. Iraq war protests and Occupy took care of the rest.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:30 (three weeks ago)

Minn. Officials Say They’re Being Blocked From Investigating Fatal ICE Shooting

A top state law enforcement official said Thursday that federal agencies were denying Minnesota investigators access to evidence from a fatal shooting by an immigration enforcement officer the day before, preventing them from participating in the inquiry into an incident that officials have described in starkly different terms.

Drew Evans, the superintendent of the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, said on Thursday that his agency had withdrawn from the investigation of the death of Renee Nicole Good, 37, as a result.

“Without complete access to the evidence, witnesses and information collected, we cannot meet the investigative standards that Minnesota law and the public demands,” Mr. Evans said in a statement. Cindy Burnham, a spokeswoman for the F.B.I. office in the Minneapolis area, declined to comment.

this shit is so dystopian. the feds are going to repeatedly lie to us about what happened despite the ample video evidence, refuse to do anything to hold him accountable themselves, and the pig is going to be shielded from state charges.

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:31 (three weeks ago)

xpost the sad thing is that protesting in modern times has received such a chilly reception in the public. some of that is the media's fault, some of that is people simply being okay with mediocrity. a week after the Kent State massacre happened, almost 60% of those polled blamed the massacre on the students. this was also only 2 years removed from one of the most turbulent years the country had seen so there was much division fueling that, though not of the same cloth it is now.

the left also played its part in that. look at how unequally protests were treated around the late aughts/early 10s. Occupy Wall Street faced bipartisan criticism over the "incoherent message", the unrealistic aims, the futility of it. Black Lives Matter protests in Baltimore met with bipartisan criticism over the violence, including a bunch of shitlibs who eagerly joined conservatives in sharing a video of a mother supposedly berating her son for participating in a riot (which...was not actually what was happening in the video). Meanwhile, Cliven Bundy's posse and the Tea Party assholes who were disrupting ACA town halls, while they also received criticism, didn't seem to get held over the fire in the same way.

even after all that's happened in the last decade, middle-of-the-road Americans still view protesting as a waste of time (mostly out of self-fulfilling prophecy), pearl clutch over property damage and blocking roads, even while out of the other side of their mouths bitching about how horrible life is now.

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:44 (three weeks ago)

xp sorry for CanCon but just want to say the RCMP (mounties) are 100% vicious enforcers of colonialism. don't let the maple whimsy fool you: there's nothing surprising about them gassing anticapitalist protestors

rob, Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:45 (three weeks ago)

Yeah they were in full riot gear, they were definitely not Dudley Do-Right.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:47 (three weeks ago)

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said she is “not opposed to sending more” immigration authorities to Minneapolis following yesterday’s fatal shooting of a woman by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer.

“I’m not opposed to sending more, if necessary, to keep people safe,” Noem said Thursday at a news conference in New York City.

we don't have enough coffins for the safety you offer

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:48 (three weeks ago)

the White House is holding yet another presser on the shooting which means they know they're losing

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:48 (three weeks ago)

this is some serious 'Dear Leader' shit:

...even a shortage of the new annual passes which, for US residents, now include a photo of Donald Trump on them – a portrait that if covered with a sticker will invalidate the pass.

US national parks staff say new $100 fee for non-residents risks ‘alienating visitors for decades’
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/08/trump-national-parks-international-visitor-fee

This will likely devastate the businesses & infrastructure around these national parks.. but will possibly benefit nearby state parks as tourists bail on this fee to go elsewhere

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:50 (three weeks ago)

Noem's comment reminds me: why was Walz saying he wanted to send out the Natl Guard? to do what?

rob, Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:51 (three weeks ago)

xxpost Lemme guess--they're going to present the victim's deep ties to Cartel de los Soles.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:52 (three weeks ago)

Xpost possibly because he figured if he didn't, Trump would attempt to illegally deploy them and at least in this case he'd be in command to keep them on a leash?

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:57 (three weeks ago)

That's the only reason I can think of

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 17:57 (three weeks ago)

yeah, that's what I've heard... he's trying to beat trump to the punch on the deployment

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:02 (three weeks ago)

I know i don't gotta tell anybody this but please be careful out there :(

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:02 (three weeks ago)

Yeah they were in full riot gear, they were definitely not Dudley Do-Right.

not contradicting you but they could have been or also included Surete de Quebec who have a reputation for brutality from the Oka protests in 1990

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:08 (three weeks ago)


we don't have enough coffins for the safety you offer

well said

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:10 (three weeks ago)

Cliven Bundy's posse and the Tea Party assholes who were disrupting ACA town halls, while they also received criticism

To be fair, one of them was criticized to death.

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:27 (three weeks ago)

xps could have been both, but the ones I saw had RCMP on their uniforms. I made note of it because I was like, "Oh, this is what actual Mounties are."

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:31 (three weeks ago)

the White House is holding yet another presser on the shooting which means they know they're losing

― Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, January 8, 2026 11:48 AM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

its kinda hard to control the narrative when there's clear video evidence contradicting you and you're also openly engaging in a cover up, idk if even the idiots who voted for this are gonna buy it at the end of the day. guessing the next step is just gonna be "well she deserved to die for being a liberal" which I guess their voters could probably swing with

frogbs, Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:38 (three weeks ago)

Vance called the narrative 'gaslighting'. they really are addicted to social justice language when it suits them

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:38 (three weeks ago)

is anybody watching the presser because I don't have the stomach for it but I want to know what questions are even being allowed

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:41 (three weeks ago)

xxp I'll bet they're wishing the victim was a latino teen wearing a baklava instead of a white suburban soccer mom in a SUV, would fit the narrative they want

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:44 (three weeks ago)

(xp) It's revolting, just 100% lies.

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:46 (three weeks ago)

He literally said "No-one can argue that she tried to run over and hit the ICE officer".

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:48 (three weeks ago)

the reporters in that room are a bunch of pathetic pieces of shit

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:51 (three weeks ago)

Feels sorry for the woman who died because she'd been brainwashed and radicalized.

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:52 (three weeks ago)

It's obvious, if you look at videos from all angles, that she hit the ICE officer with her car.

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:53 (three weeks ago)

Completely insane.

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:54 (three weeks ago)

He literally said "No-one can argue that she tried to run over and hit the ICE officer".

freudian slip

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:54 (three weeks ago)

... sorry that was me, he said the opposite!

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:57 (three weeks ago)

JD is trying really hard to conflate the fraud in MN with what went on yesterday

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:58 (three weeks ago)

It's obvious, if you look at videos from all angles, that she hit the ICE officer with her car.

i’m sure they are getting grok to doctor the footage

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:59 (three weeks ago)

are they even paying lip service to an 'ongoing investigation' or 'let's wait for the facts' or is the agent's absolute innocence already a forgone conclusion?

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:59 (three weeks ago)

Had to turn this off, it was turning my stomach.

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 January 2026 18:59 (three weeks ago)

According to jd he has absolute immunity so it doesn’t matter xp

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 8 January 2026 19:08 (three weeks ago)

a judge will order the agent's extradition back to MN for trial, ICE will say no way, and nothing will come of it

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 January 2026 19:10 (three weeks ago)

Even grok knows the whole thing is bullshit xpost

https://i.ibb.co/bghpvk7t/20260108-191356.jpg

Number None, Thursday, 8 January 2026 19:15 (three weeks ago)

I think the fact that they're sending Vance out there to defend this instead of Trump says they know this is a losing issue

frogbs, Thursday, 8 January 2026 19:28 (three weeks ago)

how so?

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2026 19:31 (three weeks ago)

a judge will order the agent's extradition back to MN for trial, ICE will say no way, and nothing will come of it

― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, January 8, 2026 11:10 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the state authorities are not even investigating, so as of now nothing is coming before a judge. the feds are looking to jus sweep it under the rug

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Thursday, 8 January 2026 19:35 (three weeks ago)

huh i would do the opposite because i think they will end up walking back to 'it's totally the woman's fault but the ICE, while justified, overreacted in his understandable fright.' they should've withheld the future pres without comment and then let him roll out as the more reasonable (totally unreasonable) fascit. trump is disposable but persuasive. he goes on vibes and everyone knows it.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Thursday, 8 January 2026 19:35 (three weeks ago)

Once again I think they are trying to frame this as another case of the violent terrorist Soros-funded left vs. our brave hero masked men in uniform and are hoping if they just stick to their line of bullshit without wavering an inch they will convince some people.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 January 2026 19:39 (three weeks ago)

https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426

The ICE agent involved in the deadly shooting of a woman in south Minneapolis has been identified as Jonathan Ross, according to a source with knowledge of the case and verified by court documents.

Federal officials described Ross as an “experienced” officer. Ross was injured in a dragging incident during a June operation in the Twin Cities.

Who knows what 'experienced' means in this context, but I don't see any reason to dispute it, and it's one reason I wish people wouldn't jump in with "these ICE guys are untrained / bottom of the barrel" whenever they do something violent.

rob, Thursday, 8 January 2026 19:44 (three weeks ago)

xp not even employing the passive 'mistakes were made'... it's just the Cohn/Trump ploy of never admitting any guilt or mistakes whatsoever, never give an inch

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 January 2026 19:44 (three weeks ago)

how so?

because this is the exact sort of thing Trump loves - it's an ICE agent murdering a protestor in Tim Walz's state, they're like rabid dogs for this shit and openly dream about finding any justification whatsoever to do it, you know if the video actually showed the ICE agent in danger Trump himself would be on TV doing a victory lap for the next 2 weeks. instead they're sending out JD fuckin' Vance, the most unconvicing and reviled of all of them, which is kinda like when a baseball team is losing by 10 and decides to put their backup shortstop on the mound

frogbs, Thursday, 8 January 2026 19:48 (three weeks ago)

not too sure about this idea that Vance is most reviled. isn't he the lead candidate for Republicans for 2028? don't get me wrong, I think he could end up fucking it all up as it's true that he's a complete sociopath. I just think you might be wishcasting a bit

rob, Thursday, 8 January 2026 19:57 (three weeks ago)

Once again I think they are trying to frame this as another case of the violent terrorist Soros-funded left

Of course they are. Trump called Good’s wife “obviously a professional agitator” shortly after the shooting, because anyone who protests, like grandmothers, and members of church groups, and my wife and I, could have no other reason for resisting his goon squads.

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:00 (three weeks ago)

not too sure about this idea that Vance is most reviled

I think Miller is wearing this crown now

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:01 (three weeks ago)

JD was asking the question “how did she get there and who told her to be there?”

I’m pretty fucking sure this happened down the street from her house

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:02 (three weeks ago)

re: Vance's popularity amongst Republicans

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-2028-poll-republicans-11252693

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:04 (three weeks ago)

isn't he the lead candidate for Republicans for 2028?

yes, by default, since there's no succession plan in place and Trump has personally destroyed the careers of anyone in the party who challenged him. once primaries start I'd wager he'll be one of the first to drop out and in 5 years will start a shitty podcast no one will listen to

frogbs, Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:05 (three weeks ago)

mildly surprised to see that Hawley joined the Collins/Murkowski/Paul axis on this Venezuela resolution

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:05 (three weeks ago)

he's a 'populist,' see.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:06 (three weeks ago)

I think Miller is wearing this crown now

yea but he has an actual job whereas Vance just spends all day on Twitter responding to journalists

frogbs, Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:11 (three weeks ago)

yeah, Vance is just an absolutely soft penis of a man. I could see even Rubio getting elected before JD.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:22 (three weeks ago)

This constant refrain about "professional agitators" and "paid protesters" is so infuriating. My own congressman posted that No Kings protesters were being paid $15 an hour or something, they say this shit all the time like they can't possibly imagine anyone would just go protest or observe ICE or whatever because they actually just fucking care.

Jan. 6 they can understand because those people were patriots, of course.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:24 (three weeks ago)

Rochester MN resident here (British), local Reddit page informs me ICE agents are swarming all over town abducting people, possibly or possibly not locating targets with the aid of P@l@nt!r software. Think I might stay in for a while, like weeks. All abductees are Somalian or of Somalian heritage of course. Which isn't me but paranoia might be the best option here.

I walked with a nimby (Matt #2), Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:35 (three weeks ago)

i don’t give a shit about Vance’s popularity with self-identified *Republicans* they are a lost cause and death cult. Vance turns off even the despicable “independent” voter who think Trump was going to make IVF free and only deport “the criminals”.

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:41 (three weeks ago)

Somali - ‘Somalian’ is what chuds call them.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:42 (three weeks ago)

the gall of having fucking greg bovino show up to be the face of evil (speaking of straight out of central casting, it’s crazy how much he looks and acts like sean penn in one battle after another)

z_tbd, Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:43 (three weeks ago)

Vance has a 51% disapproval rating, which is not where you want to be as a presidential candidate.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:44 (three weeks ago)

greg bovino show up to be the face of evil

he even wears a Sam Browne belt which is kinda weird for someone who's not in the military... straight up nazi cosplay

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:57 (three weeks ago)

https://outsidethebeltway.com/greg-bovinos-costuming-choices/

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 January 2026 20:59 (three weeks ago)

Somali, sorry. De-chudding begins now.

I walked with a nimby (Matt #2), Thursday, 8 January 2026 21:10 (three weeks ago)

Facist cospay bullshit

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 8 January 2026 21:15 (three weeks ago)

Cosplay*

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 8 January 2026 21:16 (three weeks ago)

straight up nazi cosplay

for real, it’s striking and very obvious

also, just surreal that bovino was so recently in legal trouble (?) for completely ignoring a chicago judge’s order to stop using tear gas, to the point that the judge started ordering him to make daily appearances at court

https://www.nprillinois.org/illinois/2025-10-29/bovino-ordered-to-make-daily-court-appearances-after-three-days-of-tear-gas-in-chicago

admittedly, i followed that closely and then many other things started happening, so i’m not sure what happened to all of that. where is he in legal limbo? why is he free to show up in minneapolis at all, let alone to be a leader of fascists? (it’s not cosplay if they’re literally doing it)

z_tbd, Thursday, 8 January 2026 21:24 (three weeks ago)

ACA subsidy extension (three years) passed the House 230-196. Unanimous approval from Democrats + 17 Republicans. Goes to the Senate now, where Fetterman will probably be the deciding No vote or some equally embarrassing outcome.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 8 January 2026 22:31 (three weeks ago)

I'm not gonna hand it to Chuck Schumer ever in my life but I can't believe that actually worked

frogbs, Thursday, 8 January 2026 22:33 (three weeks ago)

I think what mostly worked is a lot of people losing health insurance, and at least a few Republicans don't actively hate their own constituents. Plus also, that's a hit to insurance companies who were no longer getting those subsidies and therefore were losing customers.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 January 2026 22:42 (three weeks ago)

FOX 9 confirmed [Jonathan]Ross is the ICE officer who fatally shot Good in south Minneapolis on Wednesday. The Department of Homeland Security confirmed to FOX 9 the officer who fired his weapon on Wednesday is the same officer who was dragged 50 yards by a suspect in a vehicle in Bloomington in June.

So then he does it again:
One of the agents on the driver's side door backed away, and then opened fire, shooting three times through the driver's side window, witnesses said. Police say the driver was struck in the head. The agent appears to mostly avoid the vehicle as it speeds past and ends up crashing into a parked vehicle.

https://www.fox9.com/news/ice-officer-minneapolis-shootig-identified

dow, Thursday, 8 January 2026 22:44 (three weeks ago)

just learned the chicago ice operation is called "operation midway blitz." as in blitzkrieg. as in nazis.

treeship., Thursday, 8 January 2026 22:46 (three weeks ago)

Sorry, before "So then he does it again," should have posted:

According to court documents, the officer was part of a team that was attempting to apprehend a man in the United States illegally. He broke a window and reached into the vehicle, attempting to open the door when the driver sped off. He was then dragged by the vehicle.

dow, Thursday, 8 January 2026 22:47 (three weeks ago)

wow he sounds like a stupid fucking asshole!!!!

budo jeru, Thursday, 8 January 2026 23:07 (three weeks ago)

I'm sure his children love him, though.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2026 23:18 (three weeks ago)

Given how poorly these bozos identify themselves as legitimate law enforcement by disguising themselves as carjackers and criminals, the act of breaking a car window and reaching inside it should be viewed by rational people as ample justification for dragging the person until they let go.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 8 January 2026 23:23 (three weeks ago)

they aren't police officers, they are masked thugs in unmarked cars. why would they expect people to comply with them?

treeship., Thursday, 8 January 2026 23:26 (three weeks ago)

this is why that poor woman yesterday just wanted to get the fuck out of there... creepy dudes trying to open her car door

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 January 2026 23:28 (three weeks ago)

they are trump’s personal radication squad

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 January 2026 23:29 (three weeks ago)

PORTLAND, Ore. (KATU) — U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents shot two people in Portland on Thursday afternoon, according to ABC News sources.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 January 2026 23:47 (three weeks ago)

What border were they protecting and were they like busting somebody for fake Louis Vuitton

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 January 2026 23:50 (three weeks ago)

come friendly Long March missles

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 January 2026 23:50 (three weeks ago)

this is weird... seems like the man & woman that were shot called the portland cops, who applied tourniquets and then called an ambulance

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 00:15 (three weeks ago)

Yeah. Like what, CPB shot them and then just left?

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 January 2026 00:18 (three weeks ago)

it seems like maybe they had a car and fled the shooting? Police located them away from where the shooting occurred...

Police chief is already trying to keep people from rioting

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 00:24 (three weeks ago)

Like what, CPB shot them and then just left?

this is what it's looking like currently

vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Friday, 9 January 2026 00:49 (three weeks ago)

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KATU reporting says that Portland Police responded to a report about the shooting and found the two victims. Which suggests the CBP agent who fired was not still on scene, either bc he fled or bc the victims somehow got away while injured.

vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Friday, 9 January 2026 00:51 (three weeks ago)

Huge turnout at the vigil/rally in Philly tonight. Husband’s org co-sponsored it. Heartening to say the least. I am at work, sadly

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Friday, 9 January 2026 01:06 (three weeks ago)

good to hear

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 01:12 (three weeks ago)

okay, re: portland - the victims were known Tren de Aragua domestic narcoterrorists, so there's nothing to see

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 02:05 (three weeks ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FKcP8j010o

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 January 2026 02:06 (three weeks ago)

This guy’s story jeez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcSOyVrc5HM

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 January 2026 02:14 (three weeks ago)

known Tren de Aragua domestic narcoterrorists

the question remains, does this 'knowledge' consist solely of CPB or ICE analyzing some hazy photos of their tattoos, or is it something more like real evidence that would stand up in a court of law?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 9 January 2026 02:24 (three weeks ago)

probably the old tattoos but maybe also like a chicago bulls cap or something really incriminating like that

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 02:32 (three weeks ago)

"When agents identified themselves to the vehicle occupants, the driver weaponized his vehicle and attempted to run over the law enforcement agents," DHS said in a statement.

An agent fired a defensive shot and the driver drove off with the passenger, according to DHS, which called the situation "evolving."

Hm

treeship., Friday, 9 January 2026 02:38 (three weeks ago)

Hell yeah Jesse! I didn't know he was a Teddy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 January 2026 02:39 (three weeks ago)

the driver weaponized his vehicle and attempted to run over the law enforcement agents

any attempt to GTFO will always now be seen as an attempt to kill officers

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 02:46 (three weeks ago)

"You shouldn't be here, but don't leave."

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 January 2026 02:49 (three weeks ago)

So the “tren de aragua” members called the police and the federal agents fled the scene.

treeship., Friday, 9 January 2026 02:53 (three weeks ago)

Makes a lot of sense.

treeship., Friday, 9 January 2026 02:53 (three weeks ago)

considering cops are taught to not stand in front of or behind a vehicle, it’s “interesting” how often this shit seems to be happening

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Friday, 9 January 2026 04:04 (three weeks ago)

They're being deliberately aggressive. It's like the scam artists who try to get "hit" by buses and sue, except instead of suing they just shoot you.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 January 2026 04:22 (three weeks ago)

thats the most pathetic thing about these guys, this constant need to be victimized, the need to always point at their baby sister and go "but she started it!". not just shit like this but also that thing they do where they grafitti their own sidewalks or create alt social media accounts to be mean to themselves so they can cry about it. these scared fucks can't stare into the unknown without wanting to kill it before it can talk to them. so they have to create a world where everything is scary. meanwhile you've got grandmas out in the cold protesting this despite the federal government straight up giving these freaks permission to murder them in broad daylight.

frogbs, Friday, 9 January 2026 04:31 (three weeks ago)

also this stuff about them now posing as utliity workers so they can get in and arrest people, that's such cowardly bullshit. you fucks ran on "we're gonna get the worst of the worst" and less than a year in they have to rely on just bamboozling people to meet quotas

frogbs, Friday, 9 January 2026 04:34 (three weeks ago)

seriously what is a narcoterrorist

encino morricone (majorairbro), Friday, 9 January 2026 08:51 (three weeks ago)

I think it's like an anarcho-syndicalist

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 January 2026 09:36 (three weeks ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ywLEESFDu0

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 January 2026 12:50 (three weeks ago)

A narcoterrorist is probably something who pumps drugs into a certain community in order to cause it to collapse. Like the CIA did here in America.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 9 January 2026 13:00 (three weeks ago)

They're being deliberately aggressive. It's like the scam artists who try to get "hit" by buses and sue, except instead of suing they just shoot you.

I think they would like to create a situation where an ICE agent is shot and killed, in order to justify further crackdowns/martial law.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 9 January 2026 14:16 (three weeks ago)

^^^ bingo

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 January 2026 14:46 (three weeks ago)

feel like they would use their own resources to stage that

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 14:51 (three weeks ago)

There was a former DHS officer on PBS News Hour yesterday who basically said, “the ICE agent did the opposite of what he was supposed to do, and ostensibly what he was trained to do” … it’s insane because I have seen countless tv shows where that was the M.O. of a gang hit. I swear … at least one of the murders in The Wire was exactly that.

sarahell, Friday, 9 January 2026 14:55 (three weeks ago)

^^^ also bingo

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Friday, 9 January 2026 14:55 (three weeks ago)

Real headline:

France delays G7 to avoid clash with White House cage fighting on Trump’s birthday

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 January 2026 14:57 (three weeks ago)

Is this a cock fight or something?

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 9 January 2026 15:01 (three weeks ago)

Of sorts.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 January 2026 15:09 (three weeks ago)

will trump be in the cage

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 9 January 2026 15:26 (three weeks ago)

Everyone outside of the cage tries to kill one another

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 9 January 2026 15:31 (three weeks ago)

did any new news trickle in about the Portland shooting last night? everything I read seems to be in statis from the initial report last night

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 15:33 (three weeks ago)

*stasis

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 15:34 (three weeks ago)

Probably no phone camera footage of the Portland incident so case closed, government story holds, Venezuelan gangsters tried to run down border patrol agents.

BrianB, Friday, 9 January 2026 16:16 (three weeks ago)

dude’s really going through his bucket list: military parade, naming buildings after himself, MMA fight just for him, etc.

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 9 January 2026 16:18 (three weeks ago)

Probably no phone camera footage of the Portland incident so case closed, government story holds, Venezuelan gangsters tried to run down border patrol agents.

and the agents immediately skeedaddled?

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 9 January 2026 16:18 (three weeks ago)

They were afraid for their lives!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 January 2026 16:19 (three weeks ago)

I believe the official account was that they miraculously got a shot off that managed to hit both gangsters before they sped off.

BrianB, Friday, 9 January 2026 16:24 (three weeks ago)

lol why’d they run away were they skeered

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 9 January 2026 16:43 (three weeks ago)

There may have deranged leftists throwing snowballs at them.

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Friday, 9 January 2026 16:45 (three weeks ago)

Probably thought they were concrete snowballs like the infamous milkshakes they were so afraid of before.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 January 2026 16:46 (three weeks ago)

armed with sandwiches

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 9 January 2026 17:03 (three weeks ago)

pork chop sandwiches

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 17:04 (three weeks ago)

Worst of all are the fentanyl laced snowballs that kill you if you smell them

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 9 January 2026 17:11 (three weeks ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/noturtlesoup17.bsky.social/post/3mbyw5gnqkk2r

lmao goons getting stuck and no one comes to help push, an exquisite upper midwest passive "up yours"

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 9 January 2026 17:12 (three weeks ago)

ICE vs. ice

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 9 January 2026 17:14 (three weeks ago)

With MTG retired and Doug LaMalfa dead, where does the Repubican House majority stand?

STILL ONLY 35¢! (WmC), Friday, 9 January 2026 17:27 (three weeks ago)

218 (R)
213 (D)

D's stand to gain 1 when Sylvester Turner's seat after the runoff on the 31st.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 9 January 2026 17:33 (three weeks ago)

"seat is filled"

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 9 January 2026 17:37 (three weeks ago)

The replies to ICE v ice are EXQUISITE.

Someone in there calling those assholes Gravy Seals

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 9 January 2026 18:19 (three weeks ago)

any reactions on the immunity stripping bill from swallwell? difficult one. there’s tons of parsing needed it seems, and the extreme partisanry of the states would be right at the front, aside from the minority nature of the ability to get it taken up.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Friday, 9 January 2026 18:21 (three weeks ago)

Wow. A clip of Renee Good talking I think to the guy who shot her as he's heading around her car. She says, "That's fine, dude — I'm not mad at you!"

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mbz4hn3tys2p

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 January 2026 18:26 (three weeks ago)

Longer clip here — can't imagine how they got this? Seems to be from Ross's phone. Does not look like AI?

BREAKING: Alpha News has obtained cellphone footage showing perspective of federal agent at center of ICE-involved shooting in Minneapolis pic.twitter.com/p2wks0zew0

— Alpha News (@AlphaNews) January 9, 2026

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 January 2026 18:30 (three weeks ago)

Oh shit sorry for the embed, I only meant to post the link.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 January 2026 18:31 (three weeks ago)

yeah i can't figure out how they got that. it seems to be from the shooter's phone

a (waterface), Friday, 9 January 2026 18:35 (three weeks ago)

And ICE apologists are breaking it down frame by frame to say "See she's looking right at him when she starts moving," and all that shit. Basically it doesn't matter what you show them, they will just double down because they're glad he killed her.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 January 2026 18:37 (three weeks ago)

The news outlet appear to be bootlickers.

peace, man, Friday, 9 January 2026 18:40 (three weeks ago)

ah that explains it

a (waterface), Friday, 9 January 2026 18:41 (three weeks ago)

don't think the fact that he calls her a name at the video after he's shot her is going to help this little piggy out at all

a (waterface), Friday, 9 January 2026 18:41 (three weeks ago)

that's really haunting footage.. it all happened so quickly

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 18:44 (three weeks ago)

nothing in the video justifies shooting her either.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 9 January 2026 18:46 (three weeks ago)

So the feds must have leaked this because they think it helps show she hit him —or maybe just shows she and her wife being smartass liberal women, which is by itself an executable offense.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 January 2026 18:47 (three weeks ago)

yes. they think it helps them. their brains are goop.

a (waterface), Friday, 9 January 2026 18:48 (three weeks ago)

He mutters “fucking bitch” after he killed her. He wasn’t even panicked or in shock or anything.

treeship., Friday, 9 January 2026 18:50 (three weeks ago)

yeah, not really supporting the claim that these were Soros-funded antifa terrorists

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 18:53 (three weeks ago)

They seem like liberal women though. And they were standing up for themselves while being harassed. Busted!

treeship., Friday, 9 January 2026 18:54 (three weeks ago)

This whole thing is unbelievable sickening.

treeship., Friday, 9 January 2026 18:54 (three weeks ago)

if anything, that footage clarifies that he was never actually in front of the SUV when it started moving, he was clearly off the front quarter panel.. just needed to take a step backwards

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 19:01 (three weeks ago)

on reason i suspect its not on the level

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:02 (three weeks ago)

we have p consistent video showing we he seemed to be

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:03 (three weeks ago)

do we even know when this was

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:04 (three weeks ago)

republicans have really picked up on the 'white liberal women are the scourge of the earth' talk that's been floating around social media for several years.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:09 (three weeks ago)

not sure that demonizing 'wine moms' is going to help them

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:09 (three weeks ago)

Do the majority of people believe this woman tried to run over this ICE agent with her car or am I just on Twitter too much

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:14 (three weeks ago)

lol you're still on twitter

a (waterface), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:15 (three weeks ago)

Alpha News is complete reich wing dogshit, Minnesota based network on par with OANN

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:17 (three weeks ago)

the only people I see repeatedly saying the woman tried to hit the ICE officers are MAGA dolts and centrist-y "I'm not a political person... BUT" people. this isn't a situation like with the Covington High Kids harassing the Native American demonstration where all of the wishy-washy lefties and middle of teh road commentators suddenly pumped the brakes and stupidly said "wE gOt iT wrOnG gUys".

Twitter is basically Nazi Foot Locker

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:28 (three weeks ago)

NBC now running the cell phone video

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:31 (three weeks ago)

I've been mentally fixating on this incident since it happened, and this video is what made me emotionally lose it. Seeing her face and the fact that her last words were "That's fine, dude, I'm not mad at you."

jaymc, Friday, 9 January 2026 19:31 (three weeks ago)

the relative lack of tension preceding the murder is hard to process

rob, Friday, 9 January 2026 19:34 (three weeks ago)

how on earth did they think this video was going to help their cause

frogbs, Friday, 9 January 2026 19:35 (three weeks ago)

here comes the gasoline

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:36 (three weeks ago)

I just keep thinking about normal damage control: 'We're opening an immediate investigation, let's wait for the facts, the officer is on administrative leave while we conduct our investigation, we're reviewing our policies.. ' etc. etc.

And just seeing NONE of that with this clown show.. they could've really defused this whole thing and just chose not to, in fact just the opposite: doubling down on everything

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 19:37 (three weeks ago)

You know, I personally think the video makes a much stronger case for Renee, but the usual suspects seem to be claiming that this video exonerates the ICE agent

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:38 (three weeks ago)

like most people when run over manage to retain a grip on their cell phone and fire a gun accurately amirite

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:38 (three weeks ago)

because the cell phone is bobbled, that's the moment everyone is going to say dude was hit. dude, I hit someone w/ my car once. wasn't at fault, but that person could not hold onto anything or stay upright

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:39 (three weeks ago)

Vance is getting ratioed on Twitter for posting the video rn

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:40 (three weeks ago)

I've given up on understanding the right-wing mind, but it does seem utterly deluded to think this footage of a spiteful masked villain murdering a friendly and calm woman with a cute dog who is clearly turning her steering wheel away is exonerating

rob, Friday, 9 January 2026 19:41 (three weeks ago)

I know she is far from the only victim of ICE's reign of terror, and there is no excuse or justification for any of it, but when they will just straight up murder an unarmed white Christian mom with stuffed animals in her glove compartment, a U.S. citizen who was just trying to look out for her community, like the many thousands of other people across the country who are monitoring and resisting ICE because they believe in what's right ... there but for the grace of God.

jaymc, Friday, 9 January 2026 19:43 (three weeks ago)

idk man, this whole thing really makes me feel like the right wing won both the culture war and the political war and there's no coming back. Like its so much... simpler and easier... for Ian Miles/Libs of Tik Tok/Matt Walsh/Nick Fuentes/JD Vance/Kristi Noem to call this lady an attempted murderer and call George Floyd a Fentanyl addict than it is for any left-leaning person to say "there's video, use your eyes."

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:47 (three weeks ago)

if the cop got hit by the car he'd have been flat on his ass and dropped both things in his hands. the incident where I hit someone was at about 5 mph and he and his bike went down hard. this dude just had to take a step back and could have balanced a coffee on his head the whole time

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:47 (three weeks ago)

xxpost

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:47 (three weeks ago)

if they think this is going to get people to stop protesting, uh, lol

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:48 (three weeks ago)

why the fuck are you on Twitter, Whiney?

jaymc, Friday, 9 January 2026 19:49 (three weeks ago)

Renee’s wife Becca Good shared this statement with MPR: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/09/renee-goods-wife-releases-statement-about-ice-shooting

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:49 (three weeks ago)

of course, the news media now is not willing to go out on a limb to say what the footage shows because it's more ambiguous since it's POV, meaning the only public-facing narrative is the one coming from the White House until Minnesota public officials offer their own rebuttal.

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:50 (three weeks ago)

I've given up on understanding the right-wing mind, but it does seem utterly deluded to think this footage of a spiteful masked villain murdering a friendly and calm woman with a cute dog who is clearly turning her steering wheel away is exonerating

The problem is the large numbers of people who are made angry by a friendly and calm women with a cute dog, and feel an affinity with this type of man. These types of feelings are unrelated to evidence. There are many that wish they could have done what he did, and the turning of the wheel in one direction or another wouldn't change a thing

anvil, Friday, 9 January 2026 19:51 (three weeks ago)

idk man, this whole thing really makes me feel like the right wing won both the culture war and the political war and there's no coming back. Like its so much... simpler and easier... for Ian Miles/Libs of Tik Tok/Matt Walsh/Nick Fuentes/JD Vance/Kristi Noem to call this lady an attempted murderer and call George Floyd a Fentanyl addict than it is for any left-leaning person to say "there's video, use your eyes."

I guess if "sealing yourself inside an impenetrable bubble of faith" counts as "winning the culture war," sure. But they're not a numerical majority, they're not an electoral majority, and the numbers of people transitioning from apathy to frothing rage seem to be growing hour by hour, so I wouldn't call it victory myself.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:52 (three weeks ago)

Guys, a huge percent of the right wing manosphere hate women. A blond lesbian who defies ICE epitomizes everything they despise.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:53 (three weeks ago)

At a certain point the shrugs of "sadlol nothing matters, the right and their media lapdogs have it all in hand" start to sound an awful lot like Kevin Bacon shrieking "Remain calm! All is well!" in Animal House.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:54 (three weeks ago)

unperson OTM

jaymc, Friday, 9 January 2026 19:57 (three weeks ago)

that note from her wife is so gracious... full of grace

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 19:57 (three weeks ago)

The government just murdered a white suburban minivan mom on camera. Do you think any other white suburban minivan moms noticed? I do.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 9 January 2026 19:59 (three weeks ago)

Sorry for doomposting but

Like I'm thinking a lot about this video and you can watch in real time how "We executed one of you yesterday" lands as such a stronger message than "Don't feed the trolls."

How can the left even compete with this unless Antifa actually turns into the violent mob they get fictionalized as?

https://✧✧✧.thre✧✧✧.c✧✧✧@a✧✧✧.✧100/post/DTQaqJ9Da6s/media

Been thinking a lot about how compassion is basically "soy" and how do we make compassion cool again? I mean, the hippies were obviously a dead end and full of a lot of bloviating false promises but at least they made compassion cool for a few years.

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:01 (three weeks ago)

https://boingboing.net/2026/01/08/we-executed-one-of-you-maga-cheers-ice-killing-of-a-mother-of-three.html

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:01 (three weeks ago)

The problem is the large numbers of people who are made angry by a friendly and calm women with a cute dog, and feel an affinity with this type of man. These types of feelings are unrelated to evidence. There are many that wish they could have done what he did, and the turning of the wheel in one direction or another wouldn't change a thing

― anvil, Friday, January 9, 2026 2:51 PM (one minute ago)

Guys, a huge percent of the right wing manosphere hate women. A blond lesbian who defies ICE epitomizes everything they despise.

― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, January 9, 2026 2:53 PM (twelve seconds ago)

I know, but we're talking about the effects of the new video and the mindset behind releasing it. The people you are talking about didn't need to see any videos at all to be on side.

I haven't clicked Whiney's link but I assume that's relevant

rob, Friday, 9 January 2026 20:03 (three weeks ago)

xpost Trump's unshakeable base is large and hateful and loud, but they're at most 35-40% of the electorate. This shit is not going down well with non-cult members.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:03 (three weeks ago)

I mean, they probably lost a few thousand more independent voters with this nightmare.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:05 (three weeks ago)

the only new info we get from this video is 1) her being calm and courteous before getting shot, 2) proof that she was turning away from the officer and not towards him, and 3) the officer calling her a "fucking bitch" after murdering her in broad daylight, anyone who claims this helps the administration's case should be in a fucking mental hospital

frogbs, Friday, 9 January 2026 20:06 (three weeks ago)

xpost I'll end with this and then I have to take a break because this is consuming me in a bad way.

Whiney is right to a degree re: the culture war. it's rubbed off on me and I've had to consciously had to dismiss those thoughts as foul - like being a good person is 'uncool' and 'weak' and to show strength we have to be in battle mode at all times, alpha male style.

I'm a very sensitive middle-aged guy - that's not me and will never be me. kindness and compassion are the only weapons I have. i'd rather die retaining that then survive by losing the last of that part of me

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:06 (three weeks ago)

I just keep thinking about normal damage control: 'We're opening an immediate investigation, let's wait for the facts, the officer is on administrative leave while we conduct our investigation, we're reviewing our policies.. ' etc. etc.

And just seeing NONE of that with this clown show.. they could've really defused this whole thing and just chose not to, in fact just the opposite: doubling down on everything

― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, January 9, 2026 11:37 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is what bothers me the most as well. obviously expecting any decorum from anyone in this administration or their allies is foolish, but the depravity of the response has been so heartbreaking. there is such a disregard for the life of this person, or for the idea that the person who shot her might face some scrutiny or accountability — even if he ends up being exonerated! the idea that something awful happened seems just not to register or matter.

tom homan of all people seems to have some muscle memory from his days running obama’s deportation hellscape, his initial response was at least noncommittal rather than just parroting noem’s domestic terrorist line. I’m sure he’s corrected course since then

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:07 (three weeks ago)

Yup. Adam Serwer:

The blatant lies about Minneapolis serve several purposes. They perpetuate the false narrative that federal agents are in constant peril and therefore justified in using lethal force at the slightest hint of danger. They assure federal agents that they can harm or even kill American citizens with impunity, and warn those who might be moved to protest Trump’s immigration policies of the same thing. Perhaps most grim, they communicate to the public that if you happen to be killed by a federal agent, your government will bear false witness to the world that you were a terrorist.

This approach, of course, is quite familiar to communities that have been dealing with police abuses for as long as there have been professional police forces. In 2000, then–New York City Mayor and future Trump adviser Rudy Giuliani justified the killing of the Haitian American Patrick Dorismond by police by quipping that he was “no altar boy.” Embarrassingly for Giuliani, whose capacity for shame was overestimated even then, it turned out that Dorismond had literally been an altar boy. Dorismond’s mother responded to the campaign to justify her son’s killing with an observation that continues to haunt me decades later.

“They kill,” Dorismond said, “and after that, they kill him the other way—with the mouth.”

Taking Good’s life wasn’t enough. The moment she died, it became imperative for the administration to also destroy her memory.

jaymc, Friday, 9 January 2026 20:11 (three weeks ago)

Exactly. These people are fucking evil.

treeship., Friday, 9 January 2026 20:14 (three weeks ago)

idk man, this whole thing really makes me feel like the right wing won both the culture war and the political war and there's no coming back. Like its so much... simpler and easier... for Ian Miles/Libs of Tik Tok/Matt Walsh/Nick Fuentes/JD Vance/Kristi Noem to call this lady an attempted murderer and call George Floyd a Fentanyl addict than it is for any left-leaning person to say "there's video, use your eyes."

― EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, January 9, 2026 1:47 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it only seems that way because they control nearly all traditional media and social media but you really have to work hard to maintain such a powerful reality distortion shield. I felt this way after Charlie Kirk got killed, the way half the country seemed to believe this guy was the modern MLK and that his assassination was a 9/11 type event that necessitated the destruction of one of the two major political parties in this country. this lasted for all of two days. it turns out way way more people cared about Jimmy Kimmel going off the air for a week. only a month later the man's name was a punchline. my son asked me one day after school what it meant to get "Charlie Kirked" because apparently that is now playground slang for 5th graders. like you can say all you want about what a hero Charlie Kirk was but all the actual evidence out there points to him being a confrontational Nazi shithead. there's not a single clip of him that makes him look like anything but. and so it is here as well. you can Zapruder this shit all you like but at the end of the day the only way you can justify her death is by arguing she deserved it for being a liberal. you gotta be as much of an asshole as Charlie Kirk was.

frogbs, Friday, 9 January 2026 20:20 (three weeks ago)

The Imitation of Kirk

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:24 (three weeks ago)

the people who view that video and think it justifies the shooting do not care about legality (because the people in power no longer care about legality). they do not care about morality (because they do not believe in morality). they don't care about contitutionality. They cheer on a police state and they do not care about the civil rights of others.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:24 (three weeks ago)

^^^good true stuff

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:27 (three weeks ago)

Been thinking a lot about how compassion is basically "soy" and how do we make compassion cool again? I mean, the hippies were obviously a dead end and full of a lot of bloviating false promises but at least they made compassion cool for a few years.

in other words, this.

This isn't new. They've been pushing this harder and harder for the past few years. Empathy is bad. Compassion is bad. They have contorted christianity to mean that you must take care of your immediate needs before others. They have successfully brainwashed millions of people into this way of thinking. It's evil. I don't know how to combat it.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:28 (three weeks ago)

this is what bothers me the most as well. obviously expecting any decorum from anyone in this administration or their allies is foolish, but the depravity of the response has been so heartbreaking. there is such a disregard for the life of this person, or for the idea that the person who shot her might face some scrutiny or accountability — even if he ends up being exonerated! the idea that something awful happened seems just not to register or matter.

tom homan of all people seems to have some muscle memory from his days running obama’s deportation hellscape, his initial response was at least noncommittal rather than just parroting noem’s domestic terrorist line. I’m sure he’s corrected course since then

― comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Friday, January 9, 2026 2:07 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

absolutely otm - hard not to compare to the response to Charlie Kirk, for which the left unanimously seemed to go "this is terrible and should not happen to anyone" while the right were openly fantastizing about the streets running red with liberal blood. despite having no clue who did it and why. yes I know you had people online mocking him right away (including me, probably) but we are just shitposters. this is the fucking President of the United States. Jesse Watters, who is watched by millions of people, spent a big chunk of his broadcast slandering this lady, calling her life "a chaotic mess", mocking her for using pronouns and being a single parent (because her husband, a military veteran, fucking DIED!), it might be the most evil shit I've seen in my entire life living here honestly

frogbs, Friday, 9 January 2026 20:30 (three weeks ago)

xpost they'll cry crocodile tears for fallen veterans and people like the guy who protected his family during the shooting because they value Strong Men who make Big Sacrifice for the Small Weak people who can't be Strong like them.

they're allowed to show faux-empathy and compassion when someone like them dies and only if they didn't die like a weenie

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:30 (three weeks ago)

Many people saying it’s the Atwood quote come to life: "Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them."

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:32 (three weeks ago)

I’m not so sure God exists but I am convinced Satan is real and has a million minions on Earth

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:37 (three weeks ago)

Social media is toxic af right now, I feel like thousands of clones of that insane MAGA chud Whiney posted are suddenly rampant. I think it’s time for me to peace out for a while.

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:38 (three weeks ago)

the only new info we get from this video is 1) her being calm and courteous before getting shot, 2) proof that she was turning away from the officer and not towards him, and 3) the officer calling her a "fucking bitch" after murdering her in broad daylight, anyone who claims this helps the administration's case should be in a fucking mental hospital

It depends on what we think the administrations goal is. If the goal is to persuade people to share their view, then it doesn't help their case at all. But I don't think thats what the administrations goal is

anvil, Friday, 9 January 2026 20:40 (three weeks ago)

If their goal is to further infuriate and incite those of us who are not loyal fascists so that we might act out our anger in violence, then their choice to release the video was well taken. Hard not to take that bait, but when you are as numerous and therefore powerful as their opponents, there is no need to kill or maim to prove our power.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:44 (three weeks ago)

how can you even discern what their goal is, they're flopping and floundering every step of the way, the only reason why we even know the identity of the killer is because Noem accidentally revealed it

frogbs, Friday, 9 January 2026 20:44 (three weeks ago)

goals? where they're going, they don't need goals

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 9 January 2026 20:45 (three weeks ago)

there's something so... adversarial about this entire administration. Previous presidents at least paid lip service to 'reaching across the aisle' or pledging support for 'all americans'.. no more of that shit, it's us vs them 100%

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 20:46 (three weeks ago)

Remember that when he worked for Nixon, Pat Buchanan's idea was "cut the Democratic Party and country in half; my view is that we would have far the larger half." Because they don't talk to anyone who disagrees with them (except for the man himself, who will talk to anyone who smiles at him), they believe they have majority support.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:49 (three weeks ago)

"They" in that second sentence means the Trump gang.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:49 (three weeks ago)

me two days ago— these people say these things like they’ve never been punched in the face for something they’ve said. but then, i haven’t either because i am a nice boy.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:50 (three weeks ago)

Maybe the "moderate"/fallback line will be, "The car moved, and he, in the wake of his previous bad experience" (noted in my previous post), "*thought* she was about to come toward him:'---but since, also as noted, he previously stuck his gun arm into the driver's side window and got his ass dragged 50 feet, why would he stick it into her window? xpost answer:"that fucking bitch." Moderate response: he still hadn't gotten over over his previous bad experience; offer him counselling, or more counselling. (Trump will prob give him Medal of Freedom, certainly a pardon of it comes to that, which it prob won't).

dow, Friday, 9 January 2026 20:51 (three weeks ago)

One of the regulars at my Starbucks is a retired cop, 18 years with MDPD and another few with my university, and he is, shockingly, a liberal, though you'd never know from his cursing and looks. Anyway, the first thing he wanted to talk about yesterday afternoon was the Good-ICE incident. Cops were not allowed to shoot into vehicles unless their lives were in imminent danger, he said, and get ready for an Internal Affairs review even if he thought his action justifiable.

He also said that a white woman in her late '30s does not rank among their list of threats. The ICE agent wanted to kill her.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:52 (three weeks ago)

I think a large part of the goal is content and attention. I think another part of the goal is discombobulation and confusion. And there doesn't need to be a coherent strategy. There are many more ways to break a vase than there are to make one

anvil, Friday, 9 January 2026 20:56 (three weeks ago)

This sounds like the kind of thing my late uncle (Minneapolis cop) would have said.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:56 (three weeks ago)

And another part of the goal is to radicalise and energise support via spectacle. Depth of support is more valuable than breadth

anvil, Friday, 9 January 2026 20:58 (three weeks ago)

I personally will not be watching a snuff video but judging from the reactions I’ve seen around in the last couple of hours, everyone is just digging in their entrenched positions. there is absolutely nothing that video could show that would make me believe pointing a gun at her head and pulling the trigger three times was justified

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Friday, 9 January 2026 20:58 (three weeks ago)

me two days ago— these people say these things like they’ve never been punched in the face for something they’ve said. but then, i haven’t either because i am a nice boy.

― madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Friday, January 9, 2026 2:50 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

relevant post:

https://bsky.app/profile/djmuel.bsky.social/post/3mbxjaonork2p

frogbs, Friday, 9 January 2026 20:58 (three weeks ago)

There are many more ways to break a vase than there are to make one

whoa we got a confucius in the house

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 20:58 (three weeks ago)

I do think that because the state’s very successful progressive politicians and policies are so oppositional to the administration, the administration wants to make an example of Minnesota. Leaders seem to be framing it that way, and it’s a huge part of their request for Minnesotans to stay calm as a way to frustrate them.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 9 January 2026 21:04 (three weeks ago)

so much light getting out

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Friday, 9 January 2026 21:06 (three weeks ago)

what makes this era so uniquely frustrating is how it's just universally understood there will never be any consequence or accountability for anyone on the right. I still find it hard to get over the fact that JD Vance literally said on TV once that he had to invent the "Somalians are eating cats and dogs" story to push his own narrative. that should've been the end of it. that should be the only thing he's remembered for, that idiotic and evil statement. instead here he is saying this guy shot in self defense despite clearly being nowhere near the front of the car. in a sane society that would be the end of him. instead we're in a society which actively nurtures and rewards this type of evil. god, fuck this place

frogbs, Friday, 9 January 2026 21:14 (three weeks ago)

Conway called the "Alternative facts"

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 21:17 (three weeks ago)

The timing of this violent escalation from the feds makes it seem part and parcel with the Venezuela/Greenland/“get the Epstein files the fuck out of the news” instinctive authoritarian flex by Trump who felt like he was losing his grip on control of a situation. Escalate everything- including instructing the feds to get a little trigger happy to reassert his absolute authority over everything- including our lives.

epistantophus, Friday, 9 January 2026 21:18 (three weeks ago)

It's all on purpose, as much as anything they do is, to start the year with another flood-the-zone effort and try to overwhelm all opposition between now and November. They're going to keep ratcheting up.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 January 2026 21:24 (three weeks ago)

xp

part of the reason we seem so out of control is that mis- and mostly mal-feasants control all the levers. it’s in control— theirs. and their fanbase is loud. the gop and maga cannot be defeated unless either of them breaks.

this is why i am v scared about elections. if they dont happen or dont happen properly.

CO’s twit governor is now talking about clemency for an election official in jail for trying to break the system for trump. exactly the wrong time for that, no matter if you think like 9 years in jail for wrecking voting machines seems too much for you (it’s not).

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Friday, 9 January 2026 21:28 (three weeks ago)

they also just don't give a fuck about actual ratings anymore... trump said that 'white house polling' showed his approval rating at 64%, all the other polls are fake
A recent (real) poll showed just 7% of americans thought we should annex Greenland

US economy added 50,000 jobs in December, capping off one of the weakest years of job gains in decades

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 21:32 (three weeks ago)

Katie Miller. Seems like the official government strategy is to be as much of an asshole as possible

https://bsky.app/profile/jakelahut.bsky.social/post/3mbzbd4flw22q

frogbs, Friday, 9 January 2026 21:33 (three weeks ago)

I guess when you choose your politics because of your pathology you think every else does too.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 9 January 2026 21:43 (three weeks ago)

there's something so... adversarial about this entire administration. Previous presidents at least paid lip service to 'reaching across the aisle' or pledging support for 'all americans'.. no more of that shit, it's us vs them 100%

No war but culture war. For this you can thank Breitbart/Bannon. Gift link

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/03/culture-war-trump-goldberg/682182/?gift=hsRiPj1wBfntjJ8_TAMw9yrdN8KdyROU74wgIT-czaM&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 January 2026 22:03 (three weeks ago)

i think its funny Katie and Stephen Miller are so in gear for their lives that they live in military housing

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 9 January 2026 22:31 (three weeks ago)

fear, obviously. fear of Geir.

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 9 January 2026 22:32 (three weeks ago)

Someone already mentioned upthread how the failed beatification of Charlie Kirk is proof that the reality distortion field is not, in fact, all powerful. And it reminded me of a hilarious screenshot I found the other day, of a tweet by the late Mr. Kirk:

The NFL is now the league of sexual anarchy. This halftime show should not be allowed on television.

Two points:
1. You will never in a million years guess which halftime show he was referring to (I couldn't, even with the timestamp)
2. The people pitting themselves against the literal super bowl are not the mainstream, have never been the mainstream, never had a snowball's chance in hell of winning the culture war, but have long been priced into performing this single schtick at maximum volume for an ever dwindling audience of dittohead freaks.

Tell me who sends these infamous .gifs (bernard snowy), Friday, 9 January 2026 22:42 (three weeks ago)

Rihanna is the GOAT

llurk, Friday, 9 January 2026 22:49 (three weeks ago)

Super Bowl XVI with Up With People?

Nah, Shakira and J-Lo?

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 January 2026 22:49 (three weeks ago)

I also think a lot about how the Archduke Franz Ferdinand moment for the entire collapse of American democracy can be traced to drama over Gawker's video game blog.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3baX1AscmjGiTFAADytAXzMP3vEXirEhjtw&s

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 9 January 2026 22:58 (three weeks ago)

sexual anarchy is MY kind of anarchy

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 January 2026 23:00 (three weeks ago)

“he calls himself ‘Prince’ but he dresses like a ‘PrincESS’”!

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 9 January 2026 23:01 (three weeks ago)

Like the vice president has deputized and sanctioned a rogue paramilitary force to shoot soccer moms in the face because, 12 years ago, a Steam game went crazy on Metacritic

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 9 January 2026 23:02 (three weeks ago)

It was the Dr. Dre et al halftime xpost

Tell me who sends these infamous .gifs (bernard snowy), Friday, 9 January 2026 23:08 (three weeks ago)

It is true that seeing Dre's booty in short shorts eroded my morals

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 January 2026 23:14 (three weeks ago)

I also think a lot about how the Archduke Franz Ferdinand moment for the entire collapse of American democracy can be traced to drama over Gawker's video game blog.

Or maybe the Bollea v. Gawker case, which involves pro wrestling, sex scandal, the suppression of free speech, dissolution of the press, and Peter Thiel?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 January 2026 23:15 (three weeks ago)

Franz Ferdinand made a decent second album well before his assassination.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 January 2026 23:20 (three weeks ago)

I saw them behind their first album and they killed it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 January 2026 23:22 (three weeks ago)

CO’s twit governor is now talking about clemency for an election official in jail for trying to break the system for trump.

this fucking choad, what a goddamn disappointing asshole he is. Serves me right for initially thinking "hey great, a gay Dem governor!"

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 9 January 2026 23:22 (three weeks ago)

even people I know in colorado who personally knew him now repudiate him

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 9 January 2026 23:22 (three weeks ago)

He's caving to Trump's threats

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 23:42 (three weeks ago)

Fucking coward

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 23:43 (three weeks ago)

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We evacuated our kids out of Minneapolis this weekend and my spouse reports that as she drove them out of town she saw "multiple freeway exits where people are being pulled over." It feels like the Twin Cities is being subjugated by a hostile occupying force.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 10 January 2026 02:08 (three weeks ago)

Jfc

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 10 January 2026 02:08 (three weeks ago)

ICE Is ‘Too Forceful,’ Half Of Americans Say In YouGov Poll https://share.google/Vuq85OucViWAs0gNh

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 January 2026 02:22 (three weeks ago)

that is v v bad polling news

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Saturday, 10 January 2026 02:36 (three weeks ago)

This fucking idiot thinks he can executive order credit card companies to cap interest rates at 10%.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 10 January 2026 03:44 (three weeks ago)

Executive orders like this are purely performative

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 10 January 2026 03:57 (three weeks ago)

Tucker Carlson Says Conservatives Not Viewing ICE Killing Through 'Human Lens' https://share.google/8yZlsfbDmm3wNfnOP

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 January 2026 04:01 (three weeks ago)

ICE Is ‘Too Forceful,’ Half Of Americans Say

Much as we would wish that 55% disapproval were much higher, immigration is an issue that was working in Trump's favor during the 2024 election, based on more than a decade of the mainstream media coverage of the border as being in crisis, Congressional Republicans hardline refusal to help pass various immigration bills, and widespread xenophobia.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 10 January 2026 04:15 (three weeks ago)

yeah because these idiots actually believe him when he says bing bang boom it'll be so simple

these people do want mass deportations but I really feel like they don't actually want an army of trigger happy goons in facemasks with permission to kill whoever they see fit. it doesn't even seem to be catching on with the party at large. is even Mike Johnson repeating this shit?

frogbs, Saturday, 10 January 2026 05:29 (three weeks ago)

Mike Johnson? He hasn't heard anything about it. He's a very busy man, you know.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 10 January 2026 05:35 (three weeks ago)

these people do want mass deportations but I really feel like they don't actually want an army of trigger happy goons in facemasks with permission to kill whoever they see fit.

I think there's something more deep rooted than what these people "want". I think there is an element of monkey ladder happening, which goes back to the question about what the administrations goal is. There's a loyalty test involved. You were ok with A, B, C, D, and E? Well you're going to be ok with F too. You're too far down this path now to back to C or D. And D isn't enough, and E isn't going to be enough either now.

If you're having second thoughts about F where are you going to go with that? who are you going to go to? Everyone else is all on board with F (or at least they appear to be). You have to go along with F, and you have to be convincing, what if the others find out you're not really? Then what?

anvil, Saturday, 10 January 2026 06:29 (three weeks ago)

Even successful content creators and influences and politicians are in the same spot, they have to support everything, they have to support this too, there's no way back for them. The audience they've built will accept nothing else. The comments will go all one way. Are the comments real? How many? Are they bots? 15 year olds in Indonesia? People in your workplace?

anvil, Saturday, 10 January 2026 06:39 (three weeks ago)

Franz Ferdinand made a decent second album well before his assassination.

― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, January 9, 2026 6:20 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

i support this

My homies buttthole surfers' record sounds like a f (Western® with Bacon Flavor), Saturday, 10 January 2026 06:51 (three weeks ago)

If their goal is to further infuriate and incite those of us who are not loyal fascists so that we might act out our anger in violence, then their choice to release the video was well taken. Hard not to take that bait, but when you are as numerous and therefore powerful as their opponents, there is no need to kill or maim to prove our power.

OTM. The relative lack of public militia activity, demostrations, etc. over the past year leads me to conclude that they've all just joined ICE. They want to start a war. They're getting paid. They're irate that no one is shooting back at them. They know that true crime stories really go viral over a white woman being murdered. The cell phone video is a trophy video for them and a incitement to their enemies.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 10 January 2026 07:59 (three weeks ago)

is there one model in which anti ice elements work? because to me they are doing great v dangerous work in their spaces— but anti ice must get bigger, or must somehow present as bigger than ice deployment in every location with one non-violent message— go home. you can probly tell i know little about activist basics.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Saturday, 10 January 2026 13:32 (three weeks ago)

Mike Johnson? He hasn't heard anything about it. He's a very busy man, you know.

he’s busy sucking twink dick in a hotel room somewhere. the guy is as closeted as they come.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Saturday, 10 January 2026 13:38 (three weeks ago)

goooood morning!

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 January 2026 13:48 (three weeks ago)

It isn't the most noxious or cruel defense of Good's murder, but the downright dumbest one has to be some variation on "If he wasn't in front of her car, how did the bullet go straight through the windshield?" I've seen this posted over and over, so it's obviously something that's been pushed out by someone. I keep telling people to try a simple exercise: Go outside and stand at the front left side of your car, next to the hood. Make your fingers into a pointy gun shape. Point it at the steering wheel. See where the bullet will go? Through the left side of the windshield, right where the actual bullet went.

I mean, "How can you hit the windshield with a bullet if you're standing right next to the car?" They're just repeating shit without thinking about it for even half a second.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:01 (three weeks ago)

the most enraging thing about that argument is that there is no video from any angle when he is on front of the car

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:07 (three weeks ago)

the “fucking bitch” he says just after he murders her is really…damning of his state of mind

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:09 (three weeks ago)

I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything that made me this angry

treeship., Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:19 (three weeks ago)

It would be one thing if the admin went through the motions and said they would investigate. But declaring full immunity for the “officer,” smearing the victim with lies… and I just know if I talk to some of my “moderate conservative” relatives they will trot out bullshit about how she didn’t act perfectly in the situation, things are “complicated,” and beneath it is contempt for the fact that this was a liberal woman exercising her first amendment rights.

treeship., Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:21 (three weeks ago)

It all seems calculated to provoke maximum rage among people who don’t support trump.

treeship., Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:23 (three weeks ago)

anvil OTM

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:27 (three weeks ago)

lol none of this is calculated, it’s just maximum impunity and zero shame, never admit any weakness ever. our side = always the best, their side = only worthy of life if it suits us

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:32 (three weeks ago)

I don't think there's much point in arguing with anyone who thinks perfect obedience to violent maniacs is a requisite for not being murdered, but I guess I wonder if people like that are aware of this:

WSJ investigation: In the past 6 months ICE agents have fired at vehicles 13 times, leading to:

* 8 people shot
* 5 of which were U.S. citizens
* 2 died
* no victims drew a weapon

The playbook: Agents box in a vehicle, block attempts to flee, then fire

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/videos-show-how-ice-vehicle-stops-can-escalate-to-shootings-caf17601

https://bsky.app/profile/mims.bsky.social/post/3mc3e4zvnp22b

rob, Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:32 (three weeks ago)

the most enraging thing about that argument is that there is no video from any angle when he is on front of the car

And if he had been right in front of the car and she was aiming at him, then after he shot her and the car continued out of control on its trajectory — which is in fact what happened — then the car would have run him over. But he wasn't and she wasn't and it didn't. But right, these arguments don't matter. Discarding facts in favor of preferred narratives is just second nature.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:35 (three weeks ago)

Yeah it is a pattern, a tactic. And obviously doing this is not helping them deport undocumented immigrants more efficiently. So the insane question becomes why are they creating these conditions for civil unrest and violence purposefully.

treeship., Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:37 (three weeks ago)

That WSJ article:
https://archive.ph/fXqmG

Kim Kimberly, Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:38 (three weeks ago)

They definitely want to deport immigrants and change the demographics of the US — which is deplorable — but there are also other motives here.

treeship., Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:39 (three weeks ago)

There are two things happening in parallel. The huge surge in immigration enforcement is happening all over the country, and they are grabbing and deporting anyone they can. Then there are the concentrated surges in specific cities, where they deploy these huge battalions of ICE and CPB officers — with or without National Guard backup, depending on where it is — and stage these big, highly visible operations where Bovino and pals lead dozens or hundreds of agents en masse in the middle of big cities. The latter push, which Minneapolis is the current center of, isn't about immigration enforcement, it's about intimidation of the whole population. Literally occupying enemy territory, from the administration's standpoint. As they continue to add thousands of new agents, they'll be able to do that in more places at once.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:53 (three weeks ago)

the “i’m not mad at you” is heartbreaking. wwjd. that

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:55 (three weeks ago)

Good synopsis.

treeship., Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:55 (three weeks ago)

yeah otm post tipsy

rob, Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:58 (three weeks ago)

I’m pretty sure the push from Stephen Miller for ICE to deport huge numbers of people, regardless of whether they are dangerous gang members or not, is his recognition that there is a limited timeframe in which to try to shift demographics before a Democratic congress comes in and starts issuing subpoenas.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:59 (three weeks ago)

I’m wondering if there is ICE activity at all in Minnesota congressional districts where the electeds are GOP.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 10 January 2026 17:05 (three weeks ago)

My friend is a street photographer and has been taking some really powerful photos this week

https://www.instagram.com/p/DTRv8UBjjDR/?igsh=c2RoNWNidWg4Nzdv

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 10 January 2026 17:09 (three weeks ago)

I’m pretty sure the push from Stephen Miller for ICE to deport huge numbers of people, regardless of whether they are dangerous gang members or not, is his recognition that there is a limited timeframe in which to try to shift demographics before a Democratic congress comes in and starts issuing subpoenas.

― This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Saturday, January 10, 2026 11:59 AM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

For sure. Also, Miller does it because the malevolent shitbird feels like it.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 January 2026 17:15 (three weeks ago)

what really stands out from that cell phone video is that the officer is agitated more than anything by the women not being afraid of him. they're smiling, standing their ground, but obviously not looking for a confrontation. I think that more than anything is what gets these fucks seeing red. the whole reason they do this is to terrify liberals and if they can't do that their entire life is a waste. the guy says "Fuckin bitch"...for what?? her last words were "I'm not mad at you"!! well I think the answer has to do with why he has his cell phone out in the first place. why the fuck is he recording with one hand and pointing a gun with the other? is this not what body cams are for? knowing what we know about this administration, I'm sure it's all because they're desperate for content, they so badly want to be the guy capturing the next screaming feminist meme template, they wanted her to act angry and irrational to the point where she may be threatening, and when she didn't play along he killed her and called her a bitch

frogbs, Saturday, 10 January 2026 17:17 (three weeks ago)

I’m curious - what’s the posting/energy about this shooting like on FB, for anyone still there?

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 10 January 2026 17:18 (three weeks ago)

In re not being afraid of him, somewhere up thread I posted an interview with a pastor in Minneapolis, who was detained by ICE agents who were harassing a young woman. They were furious when the pastor said he wasn’t afraid of them. They put a gun in his face and said “are you afraid now?” When he said no, they grabbed him and threw him in the back of a car and held him there while they were continuing their operation. Every once in a while, one of them would stick their head into the car or put a gun in his face and say “are you afraid yet?” He kept saying no. Eventually, they said to him, “You’re white, you won’t be any fun anyway“ and told him to get out of the car. But absolutely the thing that drives them crazy. Is people not being afraid of them.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 10 January 2026 17:22 (three weeks ago)

why he has his cell phone out in the first place

Supposedly he was filming her to get a good image of her face to run through a facial recognition database to see if she had warrants or priors to justify instigating an arrest.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 10 January 2026 17:32 (three weeks ago)

These fucks also film themselves for content. They are encouraged to do it.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Saturday, 10 January 2026 18:05 (three weeks ago)

A bit like the IDS in Gaza.

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 January 2026 18:10 (three weeks ago)

He was run over but managed to keep his balance with objects in both hands

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 January 2026 18:12 (three weeks ago)

when he got to the hospital the ER doc had to pry the cell phone out of the brave, unconscious officer's hands. everyone at the ER was surprised when they viewed the video.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 10 January 2026 18:17 (three weeks ago)

Next up is the hospital report for leaking right

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 January 2026 18:20 (three weeks ago)

"Don't know why agent was here. Said he was constipated"

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 January 2026 18:21 (three weeks ago)

Many xps to Suzy, my wife's family is from out west of Willmar where there are numerous immigrants who work in farming and such. My mother in law hasn't mentioned anything going on but these are very small towns without the activist network of the cities to raise alarms in the same way.

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Saturday, 10 January 2026 18:23 (three weeks ago)

Also there are plenty of pricks out there who wholeheartedly support the goon squads

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Saturday, 10 January 2026 18:24 (three weeks ago)

Ross has a wife and children that will support him. He has friends that will support him, and the community he lives in will support him. Thinking about this guy and people like him at home, behind closed doors. The price to pay for not being being behind this 100% the risk it could be you tomorrow

anvil, Saturday, 10 January 2026 18:28 (three weeks ago)

The idea that the goal is to persuade is the wrong way around, the goal is to inform. This is how it's going to be. We're not asking. It's not supposed to play well.

anvil, Saturday, 10 January 2026 18:30 (three weeks ago)

Good article from Michael Macher on how we got here, which among other things breaks down the big beautiful bill's immigration enforcement expenditures

Trump’s signature domestic bill poured a staggering $171 billion into immigration enforcement through 2029. A glimpse of the line items reveals the sheer scale of the investment: $46.6 billion to complete the border wall; $45 billion to expand immigration detention centers; $18.2 billion for border facilities and initiatives; and $30 billion on top of ICE’s $9.6 billion base budget to bolster deportation and removal operations. ICE’s annual budget increased threefold to around $28 billion through 2029, making it the largest federal law enforcement agency in the country.

https://www.phenomenalworld.org/analysis/enforcement-regime/

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 10 January 2026 18:40 (three weeks ago)

on current pace they will deport 300k people this year alone, apart from the killings, family separations etc

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 10 January 2026 18:41 (three weeks ago)

I’m curious - what’s the posting/energy about this shooting like on FB, for anyone still there?

It’s a shitshow. Every left leaning site is inundated
with Trumpy trolls and ghouls, and probably a million bots.

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 10 January 2026 18:48 (three weeks ago)

I'm still on FB and have been safe; maybe I've just blocked former friends and annoying relatives.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 January 2026 18:57 (three weeks ago)

don't know that you can make a lot of generalizations about facebook given its scale. there's going to be a lot of everything.

jaymc, Saturday, 10 January 2026 19:04 (three weeks ago)

The most callous and obtuse motherfuckers in your orbit are out and proud on discussions - one childhood friend who is evangelical/Trump voter put up a post saying how her heart was breaking for Minnesota and she wanted to hear from her friends. Six hours later she had to delete because one or two ‘lawful order’ apologists started to troll everyone else. They are swarming on social media news posts, particularly on female politicians’ pages.

I’m getting evil vibes and triggers from any FB laugh emoji I see.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 10 January 2026 19:06 (three weeks ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/jcollins.bsky.social/post/3mc3kgascfs2y

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey says 29 people were arrested in downtown last night during a noise demonstration at a hotel reportedly housing ICE agents: "For those that are taking the bait and causing property damage or otherwise, there are consequences. We're holding the line here all the way."

hmm I think I see why this guy is widely loathed

rob, Saturday, 10 January 2026 19:30 (three weeks ago)

Obscene statement to make while the murderer is still free and has been given “absolute immunity.”

treeship., Saturday, 10 January 2026 19:44 (three weeks ago)

classic frey

moral ziosk (geoffreyess), Saturday, 10 January 2026 19:50 (three weeks ago)

Vance can’t just pull immunity for this goon out of his arse.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 10 January 2026 19:56 (three weeks ago)

No he must be prosecuted at the state level so Trump can’t pardon him.

treeship., Saturday, 10 January 2026 19:57 (three weeks ago)

(xxp) The heat is on.

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 January 2026 19:58 (three weeks ago)

Well, yeah.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Saturday, 10 January 2026 19:59 (three weeks ago)

I'm posting this conversation between Ezra Klein and Masha Gessen here, rather than in the Ezra Klein thread, because he doesn't completely humiliate himself in an attempt to bothsides everything to the point of meaninglessness. It's worth watching mostly for Gessen, but Klein is capable of recognizing the fuckedness of things (while still insisting that it'll all be fine come November, when the wind from Americans shaking their heads in disapproval will blow so strongly that Donald Trump will be chastened and democracy and the rule of law will rule the land once more).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6DbiSMi6ik

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 10 January 2026 20:58 (three weeks ago)

http.//youtu.be/shJxmn9BwvQ?si=vuQMmCNXO-dYox4z

treeship., Saturday, 10 January 2026 22:30 (three weeks ago)

on current pace they will deport 300k people this year alone, apart from the killings, family separations etc

― Tracer Hand, Saturday, January 10, 2026 10:41 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

significantly below average over the last 15 years fwiw

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2026 22:37 (three weeks ago)

Vance can’t just pull immunity for this goon out of his arse.

― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, January 10, 2026 11:56 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

No he must be prosecuted at the state level so Trump can’t pardon him.

― treeship., Saturday, January 10, 2026 11:57 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

does anyone have any actual legal knowledge about this? from what little I’ve seen the feds do in fact have broad immunity in these instances

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2026 22:40 (three weeks ago)

Do ICE agents have absolute immunity? No, experts say, but it’s not easy for a state to prosecute | CNN Politics https://share.google/1LkYS24tkA6thltKR

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 January 2026 22:42 (three weeks ago)

Is Trump bombing Iran again?

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Saturday, 10 January 2026 22:48 (three weeks ago)

Syria, I guess.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Saturday, 10 January 2026 22:55 (three weeks ago)

Kind of lost in the shuffle today, three Reps attempted to visit an ICE detention center, were let in for ten minutes, and then asked to leave.

DHS gave the explanation that 7 days notice is required as policy. This was held as unconstitutional by a federal judge weeks ago. They brought a copy of the court order with them. These fucks just do not care.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 11 January 2026 05:36 (two weeks ago)

They need to bring an armed presence honestly.

octobeard, Sunday, 11 January 2026 06:55 (two weeks ago)

The agents who denied access were appraised of the law and literally said “we don’t care”.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 11 January 2026 07:04 (two weeks ago)

Subhed in the NYT on Trump considering attacks on Iran: The president has said he will be “hitting them very hard” if Iranian leaders kill protesters amid widespread demonstrations calling for wholesale changes in the country.

So ... killing protesters is grounds for outside military intervention, huh?

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 11 January 2026 13:58 (two weeks ago)

didn,'t someone make a thread or a sign to tap for "whenever you are tempted to point out right-wing hypocrisy, do this instead"?

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 11 January 2026 15:04 (two weeks ago)

Chairman Xi my people yearn for freedom and the return of the Hanoverians.

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 11 January 2026 15:29 (two weeks ago)

lol

Bill Kristol

In my world, there's a certain reluctance to being merely, or in a knee-jerk way, a resist lib. That's understandable, even commendable. On the other hand, let's be clear: It's a hell of lot better, morally and intellectually and politically, to be a resist lib than a Vichy conservative.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 January 2026 16:22 (two weeks ago)

is Ayatollah Ali Khamenei a resist lib? Apparently his regime has jammed Elon Musk's allegedly unjammable starlink. I love to see it.

calzino, Sunday, 11 January 2026 16:29 (two weeks ago)

no he is an asshole and while I don't love Musk jamming starlink and taking down the internet in Iran is not something I love to see

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 11 January 2026 16:43 (two weeks ago)

didn,'t someone make a thread or a sign to tap for "whenever you are tempted to point out right-wing hypocrisy, do this instead"?

― calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, January 11, 2026 9:04 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

every time you're tempted to point out a Republican's hypocrisy, instead call Sherman Associates in Minneapolis and tell them to grow a backbone and get ICE the fuck out of our communities

budo jeru, Sunday, 11 January 2026 16:44 (two weeks ago)

xp
it's not Musk who has jammed it apparently. I'd rather not see another Libya and if you believe these extremely violent protests are organic and nothing to do with foreign influence operations in Iran then you are naive at best or just blinkered.

calzino, Sunday, 11 January 2026 16:47 (two weeks ago)

the protests are being supported by the shah's son, who is his own type of asshole, but the Islamic Republic is garbage. Do I think we should strike them while these protests are going on? absolutely not. But do I think it's good the Republic is blocking the internet and killing protestors? no.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 11 January 2026 16:50 (two weeks ago)

Suggestion for February thread title: “I Got Two Eyes”

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 11 January 2026 17:29 (two weeks ago)

Iranians deserve better, definitely. I don’t think they will go the way of libya, a cobbled together colonial state, Iran are a little more of a cohesive conception of themselves as a nation to devolve into warlordism. but idk

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 11 January 2026 18:05 (two weeks ago)

A western puppet Iran would be a disaster for the region imo.

calzino, Sunday, 11 January 2026 18:46 (two weeks ago)

especially when you've got Israeli politicians openly talking about lebensraum and a Greater Israel project.

calzino, Sunday, 11 January 2026 18:47 (two weeks ago)

I still can't get my head round using the Shah's son as the western quisling avatar for freedom and democracy! Lol, these people are cooked.

calzino, Sunday, 11 January 2026 18:52 (two weeks ago)

also it is very amusing seeing Trump's Venezuela Plan completely imploding in the cold light of big oil exec balance sheets.

calzino, Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:07 (two weeks ago)

i'm glad it's all so amusing to you! maybe you could kindly shut the fuck up and stop posting in the US pol thread

budo jeru, Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:11 (two weeks ago)

A western puppet Iran would be a disaster for the region imo.

yeah of course. we had the shah in our pocket and overthrew Mossadegh and see where that led but no one in the West learns anything

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:14 (two weeks ago)

xp

heh! I live in the US empire and have to suffer our right-wing politicians repeating every bullshit MAGA talking point and our country is commercially yankified to the point it literally is a vassal state. But fair play I will go away, you rude prick!

calzino, Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:16 (two weeks ago)

I must disagree budo, it is very funny only in the sense of it blowing up in Trump’s face and dashing his dream of .50 cents a gallon oil

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:17 (two weeks ago)

the hard-nosed successful businessman genius not knowing anything about economics is darkly funny

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:19 (two weeks ago)

low gas prices at the pump are not going to help him politically when healthcare, housing, and food costs are skyrocketing. this guy's brain is stuck in the 70s.

treeship., Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:32 (two weeks ago)

But just think of the money saved on gas used to buy eggs.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:33 (two weeks ago)

calzino, please don’t leave the thread. just ignore budo.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:43 (two weeks ago)

Maybe there should be a world politics thread and everyone could post in that regardless of location

one man against the cistern (Matt #2), Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:46 (two weeks ago)

fuck that, budo should stop thread policing

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:47 (two weeks ago)

Calz is an ally. Allow it.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:50 (two weeks ago)

we used to thread-police to the UK politics thread, not because the interlopers were American (or occasionally Danish) but usually because they were just basically disseminating the poisonous anti-Corbyn propaganda that our captured media was producing on an industrial scale at the time. It wasn't really meant in any kind of jingoistic way, or mostly I think iirc!

calzino, Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:54 (two weeks ago)

Given the shit the USA inflicts on the of the world and the fact that you've voted for this fascist fuck twice I think we've got a right to pipe up occasionally.

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:56 (two weeks ago)

Americans won't understand the roadman slang of the British.

LocalGarda, Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:58 (two weeks ago)

English people have such funny accents!

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 January 2026 20:01 (two weeks ago)

Who's English?

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 January 2026 20:19 (two weeks ago)

he said
and smiled in his special way

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 January 2026 20:20 (two weeks ago)

something we can all agree on: Watching fed goons eat shit on icy Minneapolis streets is funny as hell

https://bsky.app/profile/gaykwon.bsky.social/post/3mc64ylrvzk2d

I think you can hear his teeth slap together on this one

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Sunday, 11 January 2026 20:27 (two weeks ago)

Somewhat spookily this is on TV right now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He%27s_Alive

Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 January 2026 20:34 (two weeks ago)

Haha I took a similar tumble recently, would probably have hurt less if I'd been wearing a bulletproof vest. I'm impressed by the escalating levels of vehement abuse screamed directly into the faces of these ghouls btw, they're not exactly winning hearts and minds.

one man against the cistern (Matt #2), Sunday, 11 January 2026 21:18 (two weeks ago)

yea there's a video of them in a Target for some reason and people are just verbally unloading on them. people are not afraid of these fucks.

frogbs, Sunday, 11 January 2026 21:21 (two weeks ago)

dare I say this is the most utterly pissed off I've seen people. dare I say it might've been a bad move to release a video where an ICE agent calls a woman a "fucking bitch" directly after shooting her in the head three times.

frogbs, Sunday, 11 January 2026 21:25 (two weeks ago)

I just learned that the infamous $50,000 recruitment bonuses for ICE troopers don't pay out until you've worked for the agency for five years. How many of these goons do you really think are gonna make it that long without eating their own gun, being shot/stabbed in a bar fight, or being arrested for domestic violence and/or CSAM possession? And is any promise of money coming from Donald Trump to be considered a collectible debt, ever, under any circumstances? As someone said on Bluesky, "the laugh I let out when I read that woke the dog from across the house."

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 11 January 2026 22:33 (two weeks ago)

If we’re real lucky they’re all gonna be fired before they make 5 years.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 11 January 2026 22:57 (two weeks ago)

yea there's a video of them in a Target for some reason and people are just verbally unloading on them. people are not afraid of these fucks.

What's even better is the 'some reason' they were there was Bovino needed to use the can.

https://bsky.app/profile/mattprivratsky.bsky.social/post/3mc6cp7f4pc2g

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 January 2026 23:52 (two weeks ago)

Bovino needed an armed escort to use the can.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 12 January 2026 00:39 (two weeks ago)

Saw a video of ice officers stomping on a memorial for renee good and crushing candles set up for it.

treeship., Monday, 12 January 2026 01:21 (two weeks ago)

I just learned that the infamous $50,000 recruitment bonuses for ICE troopers don't pay out until you've worked for the agency for five years. How many of these goons do you really think are gonna make it that long without eating their own gun, being shot/stabbed in a bar fight, or being arrested for domestic violence and/or CSAM possession? And is any promise of money coming from Donald Trump to be considered a collectible debt, ever, under any circumstances? As someone said on Bluesky, "the laugh I let out when I read that woke the dog from across the house."

This is hilarious. Very happy these freaks didn’t get paid.

treeship., Monday, 12 January 2026 01:22 (two weeks ago)

I need to stop myself from reading Facebook comments. It really is making me angrier than I've ever been. My anxiety is getting out of hand. My wife, daughter and I just came back from a trip to see family in the UK last week and I really wish we'd stayed there.

Just saw some footage of a guy being dragged out of his car at a gas station that was two minutes from our house in Saint Paul. I've now taken to carrying my green card and passport around with me as we keep seeing these monsters around.

It is heartening to see the reactions from people here. People are standing up to them and protesting everywhere. Lots of sharing their locations within the community. People are not standing for this.

kitchen person, Monday, 12 January 2026 02:46 (two weeks ago)

we love you and are so grateful you're here

budo jeru, Monday, 12 January 2026 03:23 (two weeks ago)

Given the shit the USA inflicts on the of the world and the fact that you've voted for this fascist fuck twice I think we've got a right to pipe up occasionally.

― Wilfried Nuance (Tom D.), Sunday, January 11, 2026 1:56 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

certainly. and i wouldn't tell anyone how to use the thread or to permanently stop using it, but four glib ass posts in a row that better belong in threads dedicated to those topics might occasionally provoke a reaction from somebody checking in between assisting neighbors who are dealing with the gestapo going door to door and dragging people into the street. i'll admit i've had plenty of laughs at trump's expense but hard to see the humor these days, in any case it seemed calz understood my intention even if he is a dumb stubborn cunt!

budo jeru, Monday, 12 January 2026 03:27 (two weeks ago)

we love you and are so grateful you're here

― budo jeru

Thank you!

I just needed to vent a bit. My wife and I just had a discussion about how to mentally deal with how to deal with what is going on around us. We didn't really figure out a solution. Getting off social media might be a good start.

kitchen person, Monday, 12 January 2026 03:34 (two weeks ago)

Given the shit the USA inflicts on the of the world and the fact that you've voted for this fascist fuck twice I think we've got a right to pipe up occasionally.
You've got a right anyway, but do u really think anybody on this thread likely ever voted for Trump.

dow, Monday, 12 January 2026 04:05 (two weeks ago)

(shouldn't have taken the bait, sorry yall.)

dow, Monday, 12 January 2026 04:06 (two weeks ago)

one thing I hope foreigners understand about us is that this shit has torn apart families and severed friendships for an entire decade now

frogbs, Monday, 12 January 2026 04:12 (two weeks ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mc6wnclifm2n

maybe what's left of his base is truly unshakable but I'm gonna wager this kind of shit is not gonna play well at all even with his own people. not just the callousness of it but also I don't think even Trump voters like the idea of a secret militia full of unqualified trigger-happy dipshits getting to murder anyone who they feel disrespects them. the message the right seems to be going with here is that liberals deserve to die because they don't support the president. a lot of Trump voters have nieces or cousins who could've been in the same situation that Renee Good was in. this country is pretty goddamn racist but I don't think we're racist enough where we say this shit is worth it

frogbs, Monday, 12 January 2026 04:29 (two weeks ago)

Idk, they seem pretty ok with it as long as it is happening in liberal cities.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Monday, 12 January 2026 04:59 (two weeks ago)

Having lived in a country completely resigned to authoritarian leaders, watching people talk shit to ICE and get out on the streets makes me appreciate what we’ve got. Just gotta keep fighting

Heez, Monday, 12 January 2026 05:06 (two weeks ago)

they've got relatives who do though xp

frogbs, Monday, 12 January 2026 05:08 (two weeks ago)

...and then there's this bullshit

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/bafkreifkff4le4pybdgdayzosrrmo2bqkhawhs2wb467lvvi2gutqihjyy@jpeg

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 January 2026 05:23 (two weeks ago)

dare I say this is the most utterly pissed off I've seen people. dare I say it might've been a bad move to release a video where an ICE agent calls a woman a "fucking bitch" directly after shooting her in the head three times.

Especially a woman whose last words were "That's fine, dude, I'm not mad at you"

"But I'm pissed at you, bang bang bang, fucking bitch"

Lee626, Monday, 12 January 2026 05:30 (two weeks ago)

a lot of Trump voters have nieces or cousins who could've been in the same situation that Renee Good was in.

A lot of those Trump voters ARE the nieces and cousins. And a lot of them already knew they could have been in the same situation Renee Nicole Good was in, long before this. A lot of them are already in this situation because they grew up in this situation. The Jonathan Ross's aren't just the man that could stop them in traffic, they're the fathers, husbands, pastors, and other men. This in itself isn't going to change that, they already know

anvil, Monday, 12 January 2026 06:54 (two weeks ago)

A lot of those Trump voters ARE the nieces and cousins

I'm my own grampa

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 12 January 2026 08:51 (two weeks ago)

A lot of these boomer arseholes are the original Dittoheads.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 12 January 2026 10:18 (two weeks ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/thebulwark.com/post/3mc6wnclifm2n🕸

maybe what's left of his base is truly unshakable but I'm gonna wager this kind of shit is not gonna play well at all even with his own people. not just the callousness of it but also I don't think even Trump voters like the idea of a secret militia full of unqualified trigger-happy dipshits getting to murder anyone who they feel disrespects them. the message the right seems to be going with here is that liberals deserve to die because they don't support the president. a lot of Trump voters have nieces or cousins who could've been in the same situation that Renee Good was in. this country is pretty goddamn racist but I don't think we're racist enough where we say this shit is worth it

Trump has disrespected everyone who crossed his path or came into his orbit of awareness for his entire fucking life, but if someone disrespects him or his allies they deserve to die.

treeship., Monday, 12 January 2026 11:18 (two weeks ago)

"Renee Nicole Good: murdered in front of her fellow citizens in Minneapolis, murdered in the streets. And no matter what narrative this administration is trying to sell us, we can see the videos... And this administration, these people who are trying to tell us not to believe what we see. It is so horrific. I don't understand how you can claim that she was ramming their cars or that she was attacking them. There's nothing to suggest that. And it's mind-boggling and it's deeply upsetting to me and to so many people and we can't just let it slide. To Trump, to Kristi Noem, to Stephen Miller, to Pete Hegseth, to Patel, to Bondi, to all of them, just deeply, deeply dishonest people. Just cowardly, shameful, dishonest people.
Fuck them. They are revolting."

Dave Matthews

Maybe he’s not so bad and hated after all.

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Monday, 12 January 2026 12:48 (two weeks ago)

also it is very amusing seeing Trump's Venezuela Plan completely imploding in the cold light of big oil exec balance sheets.

― calzino, Sunday, 11 January 2026 bookmarkflaglink

i'm glad it's all so amusing to you! maybe you could kindly shut the fuck up and stop posting in the US pol thread

― budo jeru, Sunday, 11 January 2026 bookmarkflaglink

Doesn't the public disagreement between Trump and one of the three major US oil companies tickle you budo?

Bad things are happening but they are also chaotic too. These are all potential openings for bad things to happen to Trump and his crowd.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 January 2026 13:04 (two weeks ago)

not focusing on foreign policy or oil companies at the moment

budo jeru, Monday, 12 January 2026 14:21 (two weeks ago)

i think in these dark times we have to take pleasure where we can find it and if that place is trump's plans blowing up in his face who's to gainsay it ihibidtace

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 January 2026 14:25 (two weeks ago)

Going after the Fed Chair for not giving King Tiny Hands total control, another page out of the ol' Dictator 101 playbook. So glad we have an opposition party dedicated to opposing. Oh, wait.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 January 2026 14:27 (two weeks ago)

he's definitely losing the WallStreetBets crowd, who were pretty heavy Trumpers based solely on the idea that he'd be good for crypto and the stock market

frogbs, Monday, 12 January 2026 14:47 (two weeks ago)

The stock market is pretty good tbh … but it is kinda awkward seeing long-term ex-pats playing thread police.

sarahell, Monday, 12 January 2026 15:07 (two weeks ago)

Trump threatening war against Iran for the killing of hundreds of protesters, while having Noem send more Feds to Minnesota….

Iran’s foreign minister said Monday that his country was prepared for war but also ready to negotiate after President Trump warned that the United States might intervene to stop the government’s increasingly deadly crackdown on opposition protests.

Ny Times

curmudgeon, Monday, 12 January 2026 15:26 (two weeks ago)

my daughter's high school (Roosevelt) is doing a walkout today at 2PM, I am going to run down there just to be with her and make sure everything goes safely. Very proud of them and hoping it all stays peaceful.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 January 2026 15:34 (two weeks ago)

wow. staff involved too?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 January 2026 15:36 (two weeks ago)

that's awesome. Please stay safe.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 January 2026 15:38 (two weeks ago)

I’ve been really impressed by the Roosevelt students I’ve seen interviewed.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 12 January 2026 15:42 (two weeks ago)

they are good kids, it's a really great school and community overall

wow. staff involved too?

― Tracer Hand, Monday, January 12, 2026 9:36 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i would imagine, it's not technically sanctioned by the school but there have been ones in the past and they tacitly support it and even sent and email to parents that it was happening. no students will face any absences.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 January 2026 15:59 (two weeks ago)

obviously we have ums and other ilxors on the ground but thought this was worth sharing, from a friend of a friend:

For folks I know outside of the Twin Cities: Everything you are seeing about the siege we are under is worse than you might think. ICE “agents” are on the streets racially profiling people and abducting them from bus stops, parking lots, businesses, cars, and homes. They are operating under the assumption that only whiteness equals citizenship. I have personally witnessed them abduct my neighbors off the street while out on watch. I’ve lost count to what have witnessed. I have seen them leave cars empty in the middle of the street after abducting people. I have watched them push people they have abducted out of their vehicles and randomly leave them in the different parts of the city because they racially profiled people and then realized they have abducted a US citizen or someone with legal status. This is only if they havent already taken them to the Whipple Building and falsely detained them for hours.

I was at Roosevelt High School when ICE came at the end of the school day. I witnessed them push teens to the ground, deploy pepper bombs, mace people, tackle and arrest an observer and leave the scene with two other people they had abducted. This went viral, but this behavior is the norm here now. It’s happening everyday, dozens of times a day.

Since they murdered my neighbor, Renee Good, they are only escalating against legal observers who are using our First Amendment rights to document and witness what is happening and protect our neighbors. They are crashing cars, smashing windows, pulling people out of their cars, using mace, pepper bombs, and rubber bullets. There is no one here to protect us but ourselves. MPD is useless and in collusion (we never expected them to help us anyway). It’s damming that this is the least amount of Minneapolis Police I’ve seen in South Minneapolis, my usually heavily policed neighborhood. They have turned to look away, enabling ICE to ransack our city.

ICE “agents” are endangering our streets in countless ways and a critical one is by driving recklessly, running lights, and going the wrong direction on one ways. It is a miracle none of us have been killed yet by these fake police in rental SUVs with tinted windows causing an accident. They have no lights, no sirens, no legitimacy and it shows.

In response to being under siege local businesses and restaurants are closing their doors to protect their workers and customers. Target on the other hand is allowing ICE to stage in their parking lots, use their restrooms, and abduct people from inside their stores - so if you weren’t boycotting already, now is the time. The streets and buses are dead except for neighbors observing, sharing resources, and protecting our community.
Minneapolis has changed. The mobilization of resources and neighbors is strong. There are thousands upon thousands of us. Documenting, witnessing, disrupting abductions, disseminating resources, providing care for those left behind after an abduction, sending documentation to the ACLU and sharing with local immigrant rights orgs that are providing further care and legal advocacy for the people they are abducting. We will not give up on each other.

To all of you outside of Minnesota. Boycott businesses supporting ICE. Divest from corporations supporting ICE. Donate money to orgs on the ground here in Twin Cities - food banks, legal aid, mutual aid (I will drop some links in the comments). Protest in your communities. Call your reps and voice your dissent. Make a plan for what you will do when ICE descends on your community. Meet your neighbors and make sure they know their rights.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Monday, 12 January 2026 20:04 (two weeks ago)

Serious question: shouldn’t the UN intervene?

(I know that’s probably ridiculous but it’s the only reaction I have to any of this and table’s post specifically that isn’t “what the ever loving fuck”)

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 12 January 2026 20:10 (two weeks ago)

Yeah, that post is similar to what my brother in law reports. His text last night said, "what you're seeing on the news is barely scratching the surface of what's happening here".

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 January 2026 20:17 (two weeks ago)

thanks for that table, sounds very similar to what my in-laws and friends are saying

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 12 January 2026 20:17 (two weeks ago)

speaking as someone who lived through the George Floyd uprising but had to leave the cities for my career, I don't know how people are doing it, but I am so glad there are networks already established for care and community defense

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 12 January 2026 20:21 (two weeks ago)

I tried to support a local Mexican restaurant/grocery today and they were closed. Facebook post says:

Our family business, El Burrito Market, was founded in 1979 by our immigrant parents and has grown alongside our community, always welcoming everyone with open arms. Given the current circumstances and ICE’s aggressive and unjust actions against immigrants, we have decided to close on Monday, January 12th in solidarity with our staff, our families and our neighbours, who have been deeply affected by recent violence and injustices. We will open Tuesday 10am God willing.

Went to a second restaurant who were not letting anyone in the establishment. I could order at the front door for takeout only. I felt like I was transacting a drug deal. I can’t even imagine what they’re feeling.

ICE has completely terrorized this community, which I’m sure is part of the objective.

.

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Monday, 12 January 2026 20:22 (two weeks ago)

my uncle and cousins are there and saying the same things. apparently everybody is freaked out and on edge. my uncle says ICE is on literally every other street corner right now. every immigrant-owned business is closed and nonwhite people are afraid to go outside. as mentioned they do not seem to care if you are a citizen or not. schools are offering virtual learning for the next month at least.

frogbs, Monday, 12 January 2026 20:24 (two weeks ago)

"I don't even want you in the Special People Club anyway!"

Donald Trump has said he might block ExxonMobil from investing in Venezuela after the oil company’s chief executive called the country “uninvestable” during a White House meeting last week.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 12 January 2026 20:35 (two weeks ago)

Question: why Minneapolis? I know there was the 'somali daycare' pretext, but I'm surprised this massive escalation in tactics is happening there. Perhaps it was just in progress and then the shooting happened and they're just quadrupling down as a terror tactic to show other cities what could happen to them?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 12 January 2026 20:47 (two weeks ago)

revenge for burning down the 3rd precinct, which afaik is still derelict and rightly so

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 12 January 2026 20:49 (two weeks ago)

also still pissed off that Derek Chauvin was sent to jail

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 12 January 2026 20:50 (two weeks ago)

they surged 1000 more ICE agents after the shooting xxp

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 12 January 2026 20:51 (two weeks ago)

Striking a blow at the governor?

Striking a blow at a part of the country that’s known to be nice/wholesome?

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 12 January 2026 20:51 (two weeks ago)

The governor who should be Vice President right now

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 12 January 2026 20:52 (two weeks ago)

fb post from a friend:

"Hi friends - here's my report from St. Paul, MN and a way for you to help TODAY - it’s hard to overstate how frightened people are in Minnesota right now. For perspective: Minneapolis has about 600 police officers. There are currently an estimated 2,000–3,000 ICE agents operating here. It feels like an invasion. We personally know of cases where parents are being boxed in while dropping kids at school, with ICE agents banging on their car windows until they confirm the children don't have accents. Local restaurant workers are being pulled out and abducted into vans mid-shift. Friends who are Professors at our nearby colleges (Mac, St. Thomas, St. Kates) are afraid to walk to work.
No matter your politics, this is not normal. It’s not right. And it’s not moral.
If you want to help today, you can. I am connected to about 45 individuals who are too terrified to go out to get groceries. I'm making a grocery run (to an immigrant-owned store) for frozen meals, shelf-stable milk, and essentials for 40 factory workers in St. Paul who are too afraid to shop for themselves. I’m also supporting a daycare with a Dreamer family and several legal-resident families of color who are similarly terrified to go out."

dan selzer, Monday, 12 January 2026 20:52 (two weeks ago)

I guess the school district is allowing kids to return to covid-era remote learning?

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 12 January 2026 20:56 (two weeks ago)

all good explanations, especially perceived weakness of Walz compared to Pritzker and Newsom. I also think that they realized cities like Chicago and LA are too big to terrorize as effectively/totally. A lot of what I'm reading about Minneapolis doesn't seem that much worse than Chicago in the fall (though I could be *very* wrong about that tbc), but it's simply much harder to be "on every corner" in a city as big as Chicago

rob, Monday, 12 January 2026 20:59 (two weeks ago)

that said, seeing these numbers of agents I wonder if we're also seeing the inevitable result of increased recruiting

rob, Monday, 12 January 2026 21:01 (two weeks ago)

the amount of ICE agents I see that are POC is too damn high

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 12 January 2026 21:02 (two weeks ago)

Well, with the billions more in funding, no doubt this is the presence they *want* to have in every major blue state city. It's likely coming.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 January 2026 21:03 (two weeks ago)

yeah exactly, that's why they wanted the Nat Guard involved over the summer

rob, Monday, 12 January 2026 21:04 (two weeks ago)

my 80 year old parents and my sister, a single mom with two kids including a special needs trans boy live in St. Paul (Highland Park). they are livid and feel helpless. are there links I can send them?

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 12 January 2026 21:05 (two weeks ago)

Start here https://monarcamn.org/

Otherwise, everything has gone hyper-local on the ground and if they have a local church or synagogue or whatever have them reach out there, lots of local religious groups are either helping or hosting organizing

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 12 January 2026 21:33 (two weeks ago)

I went to a Monarca event this wknd and there was over a thousand people, I went to another event more focused on my specific hood and there was 250-ish

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 12 January 2026 21:39 (two weeks ago)

the amount of ICE agents I see that are POC is too damn high

True of prison guards too. In the federal system, 21 percent of guards are Black and 15 percent Hispanic: https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_staff_ethnicity_race.jsp.

This is from 5 years ago, so I don't know what the numbers are now, but at the time 50 percent of CPB agents and 30 percent of ICE were Latino: https://www.latinorebels.com/2020/07/06/latinosiceborder/

The reasons given are what you'd expect — economic. Relatively easy to get hired, decent pay, good job security. And for CPB in particular, a lot of those are hired/stationed near the Mexican border, where obviously the local populations are largely Latino.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 12 January 2026 21:41 (two weeks ago)

I'm not a "libertarian" but fwiw Reason has written a stronger and broader denunciation of Trump than the NYT or WaPo: https://reason.com/2026/01/12/trump-2-0-year-1-a-libertarian-nightmare/

(just don't read all the other nonsense on their site)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 12 January 2026 21:52 (two weeks ago)

Start here https://monarcamn.org🕸/

Otherwise, everything has gone hyper-local on the ground and if they have a local church or synagogue or whatever have them reach out there, lots of local religious groups are either helping or hosting organizing

thanks! yeah their church is very social justice oriented and they are active there.

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 12 January 2026 22:08 (two weeks ago)

this is what a brown-nosing bootlicker looks like

Rep. Randy Fine (R-Fla.) has introduced a bill to make Greenland the 51st state in the U.S., following President Trump’s recent push to acquire the Danish territory.

The “Greenland Annexation and Statehood Act” was introduced by the Florida Republican on Monday, his office said in a press release. The bill’s goals, according to its text, include enabling “the annexation and subsequent admission to statehood of Greenland.”

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 12 January 2026 22:36 (two weeks ago)

is he sure he wants those non-white people voting?

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 12 January 2026 22:52 (two weeks ago)

He's asking senpai to witness him

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 January 2026 23:04 (two weeks ago)

Never a chance in hell of passing either chamber

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 January 2026 23:08 (two weeks ago)

(Not that this will matter to Trump)

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 January 2026 23:10 (two weeks ago)

Randy Fine is joke, I don't think even most MAGAs take him seriously.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 12 January 2026 23:13 (two weeks ago)

He infamously had a cowardly standoff with the Space Coast Rocket guy in which he blinked. We hate him here

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 January 2026 23:28 (two weeks ago)

jfc, statehood for Greenland?! It would be beyond stupid to give two senators to a "state" with a 56,000 resident population. what a maroon.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 12 January 2026 23:47 (two weeks ago)

i'm honestly completely freaked out by what the fuck is going on

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 January 2026 23:56 (two weeks ago)

South and North Dakota combined had fewer residents in 1880-whatever tbh

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 January 2026 23:57 (two weeks ago)

they exist to keep GOP hegemony

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 January 2026 23:57 (two weeks ago)

Randy Fine is joke

he just wants a pat on the head from Dear Leader, something daddy never gave him

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 00:00 (two weeks ago)

Randy Fine ees joke

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 00:05 (two weeks ago)

I kinda get the feeling that trump wants to personally own and possibly rename Greenland, which statehood would not really enable

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 00:13 (two weeks ago)

Trumpland? Sounds more like an amusement park than a state. The Donald J Trump Memorial Statehood?

BrianB, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 00:24 (two weeks ago)

Donland

StanM, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 00:28 (two weeks ago)

the Don-Boss

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 00:30 (two weeks ago)

Randy Fine ees joke

lol when I saw I left the article out I kind of liked the effect.

I think the fantasy for Greenland is to turn it over to Peter Thiel et al to make a Galt's Gulch paradise of some kind.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/martinadilicosa/2026/01/09/these-billionaires-bet-big-on-greenland-after-trump-took-interest/

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 00:34 (two weeks ago)

Epstein Island writ large

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 00:48 (two weeks ago)

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/immigration-agents-terrified-by-ice

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 01:18 (two weeks ago)

i can only hope that these fascist thugs fear for their lives. i hope they live in fear and shame for the rest of their hopefully short days left on this planet.

in other news, yet another person has died in ICE custody here in Philadelphia, after being denied medications for opioid withdrawal. when they found Parady La, a refugee from the Cambodian genocide whose brother was murdered in cold blood in a robbery and suffered immense trauma as a result, he was unresponsive, and they tried to… administer Narcan, which is not what you do when someone is experiencing withdrawal symptoms.

La should be alive, and every single ICE officer should be put into a rocket headed straight into the sun.

https://6abc.com/post/family-questions-treatment-cambodian-immigrant-died-ice-custody-philadelphia/18392586/

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 01:33 (two weeks ago)

xp they're using Concur - that should be noted

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 01:33 (two weeks ago)

Kristie Noem lying her ass off on what happened is like saying to the federal agents on the ground: ‘Go ahead and do whatever you have to do. We got your back. We will find a way to justify it.’”

Ken lets his anonymous source point out this blindingly obvious conclusion, so he can keep his 'I'm just reporting what he said' virginity.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 01:33 (two weeks ago)

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/immigration-agents-terrified-by-ice🕸

every picture of Bovino should
instead use a still of Neil Patrick Harris in Starship Triopers

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 01:37 (two weeks ago)

fb post from a friend:

"Hi friends - here's my report from St. Paul, MN and a way for you to help TODAY - it’s hard to overstate how frightened people are in Minnesota right now. For perspective: Minneapolis has about 600 police officers. There are currently an estimated 2,000–3,000 ICE agents operating here. It feels like an invasion. We personally know of cases where parents are being boxed in while dropping kids at school, with ICE agents banging on their car windows until they confirm the children don't have accents. Local restaurant workers are being pulled out and abducted into vans mid-shift. Friends who are Professors at our nearby colleges (Mac, St. Thomas, St. Kates) are afraid to walk to work.
No matter your politics, this is not normal. It’s not right. And it’s not moral.
If you want to help today, you can. I am connected to about 45 individuals who are too terrified to go out to get groceries. I'm making a grocery run (to an immigrant-owned store) for frozen meals, shelf-stable milk, and essentials for 40 factory workers in St. Paul who are too afraid to shop for themselves. I’m also supporting a daycare with a Dreamer family and several legal-resident families of color who are similarly terrified to go out."

Enough is enough. This is intolerable.

treeship., Tuesday, 13 January 2026 01:58 (two weeks ago)

An occupation.

treeship., Tuesday, 13 January 2026 01:58 (two weeks ago)

That was essentially the point of Hegseth’s big speech to the generals. It wasn’t a ted talk for the generals. It was for everyone under those generals. They were basically saying, we’ve told your bosses to their faces that you will not be prosecuted for any illegal actions. Go fuck shit up, we gotcha.

Heez, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 02:13 (two weeks ago)

Well this is still a constitutional republic and they only have the support of at most 35% of the country. So this cannot go on.

treeship., Tuesday, 13 January 2026 02:25 (two weeks ago)

the “brushup” screenshots are interesting

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 02:34 (two weeks ago)

and lol i dint know he was going with “Border Patrol Tactical Commander.” Cobra Tactical Commander must have been taken.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 02:39 (two weeks ago)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qbbhv7/been_trying_to_share_this/

budo jeru, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 02:51 (two weeks ago)

What the fuck is this shit

https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3mcazwc446s2r

treeship., Tuesday, 13 January 2026 03:00 (two weeks ago)

horrifying and infuriating.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 03:17 (two weeks ago)

Can anyone ilxmail me the info for some of the ppl who are bringing groceries to folks who are hiding at home? I know of someone in this situation but I’m in NYC.

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 03:26 (two weeks ago)

i can get info to any ilxors trying to support sending meals to those hiding at home. just drop your email in the message and i can respond

budo jeru, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 05:00 (two weeks ago)

haven't had much time to post about it but we're getting groceries, diapers, hygiene supplies, etc. to those who need it, coordinating with with unidos-mn.org and miracmn.com if you want to check those out, not posting the org i work with here but will send info via ilxmail. everything is kind of hectic at the moment

budo jeru, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 05:04 (two weeks ago)

ums i saw some pics and video of the roosevelt walkout, so awesome

budo jeru, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 05:10 (two weeks ago)

so only 17% of republicans think there was a problem with killing renee good

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 08:34 (two weeks ago)

what are the historical precedents for what is happening in minnesota? (and chicago etc)

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 08:54 (two weeks ago)

considering the infinite options of surnames that a murder victim could have, what are the odds that you wind up with ICE killing Good?
I presume that is one thing that has been widely noted. Just seems synechdochic, mnemonic etc etc.

Stevo, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 10:41 (two weeks ago)

her name was literally "good" and her last words were "i'm not mad at you"

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 11:08 (two weeks ago)

what are the historical precedents for what is happening in minnesota? (and chicago etc)

I’m thinking of the 30 years war, forces of the Holy Roman Emperor besieging Protestant towns that he was nominally the ruler of.

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 13:12 (two weeks ago)

Honestly the closest precedent in U.S. history is probably the military occupation of the South during Reconstruction. It's not really analogous for lots of reasons obviously, but we haven't had a lot of hostile federal occupations of American cities. (I don't think the deployments to segregate Southern schools really work as a comparison because those were so narrow and specific, they weren't a generalized occupation.)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 13:16 (two weeks ago)

Which is to say, this is all close to unprecedented imo.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 13:17 (two weeks ago)

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/kristi-noem-dhs-podium-phrase-sparks-nazi-slogan-claimsheres-what-it-means-1770556

“One of ours, all of yours.”

This slogan was emblazoned on a podium kristi noem spoke from.

It is a nazi slogan. Like germany, 1940s, that kind of thing.

treeship., Tuesday, 13 January 2026 14:56 (two weeks ago)

Remember when we had to look for 14s and 88s?

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 15:01 (two weeks ago)

Or i guess the origin is murky looking into it more…

Still it is a promise of mass reprisal and the unequal application of the law based on in group/out group distinctions

treeship., Tuesday, 13 January 2026 15:02 (two weeks ago)

The kind of sentiment fascists echo all the time

treeship., Tuesday, 13 January 2026 15:03 (two weeks ago)

they are not even trying to hide it. they want civil war

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 15:03 (two weeks ago)

What does it even mean in context? They murdered "one of ours". I'm not aware of any ICE getting murdered at protests, etc. This is insane.

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 15:06 (two weeks ago)

It's just supposed to sound badass--the kind of thing you'd see on a bumper sticker next to a Punisher decal.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 15:09 (two weeks ago)

The kind of sentiment fascists echo all the time

And Israel puts into practice.

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 15:13 (two weeks ago)

the url above the slogan is the DHS website "worst of the worst" which is a searchable database of all the supposed criminals they are deporting

comparisons to Nazis and Israel are justified, but I think we should start crediting this administration with the capacity to invent novel forms of evil

rob, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 15:15 (two weeks ago)

the Moral Majority set so much of this shit in motion. it became very easy for the religious right to utilize gains like gay marriage being legalized in 2015, as well as taking opportunity of some of things like the Boston Marathon bombing to stoke Islamophobia, to frame everything as a war on Christianity which had to be defended by any means necessary. that made dehumanizing their enemy so much easier to sell to the general public - both as a means of legitimizing their extremity, but also ensuring they'd never be held accountable by a significant chunk of the population.

I misremembered for years that gay marriage was legalized in 2012 but it really was legalized only months before Trump announced his candidacy - the Kim Davis thing basically got treated as a Kent State for evangelical assholes.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 15:26 (two weeks ago)

They want to be victims and get retribution and fantasize about it

treeship., Tuesday, 13 January 2026 15:32 (two weeks ago)

Look I get that the Dems have no power and few options but my god they are absolutely failing this moment on every level. I absolutely do not gotta hand it to 'em, but my god, at least the Republicans would be screaking, kicking, bending the rules, creating loopholes and doing whatever they could to stymie a Dem majority running roughshod with every single agenda item. The Dems are just "welp, let's see how the midterms go". It's appalling how much of a failure they are proving to be.

The past two weeks have been really, really fuckin' hard. I'm heartened to see the crowds and people helping out, but at the same time, I just don't see a way out of this from here.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 15:37 (two weeks ago)

xpost yes. and possibly the worst thing we did was introduce therapy-speak to these assholes because now they're using it (sometimes ironically, sometimes earnestly) and making a mockery of the entire thing.

JD Vance accusing us of 'gaslighting' over Good.
Ronna McDaniel accusing Cory Booker of 'mansplaining' when he was calling out Secretary Nielsen for defending Trump's outright racism
Finding newfound empathy for autistic people when Elon headed DOGE and claiming his Nazi salute was "stimming"

these motherfuckers saw Rocky 3 too many goddamn times...and took away the wrong message

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 15:38 (two weeks ago)

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/13/ice-using-private-data-to-intimidate-observers-and-activists-advocates-say

"privacy advocates" should be removed from this headline, but otherwise a good/sickening piece on the new police state

rob, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 15:47 (two weeks ago)

"FEAR NOT, GREAT PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA, THE DAY OF RECKONING & RETRIBUTION IS COMING!"

so sick of this fucking shit

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 16:01 (two weeks ago)

A GoFundMe set up in support of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent who shot and killed Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis has raised over $600,000.

fuck this pos country

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 16:03 (two weeks ago)

Dem leadership is terrified that ABOLISH ICE will become in their minds as toxic as DEFUND THE POLICE wasn't in 2020. Furthermore, they like the police state, albeit a more humane one.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 16:04 (two weeks ago)

So now all you have to do to receive life changing money is be an ICE agent and murder someone. I'm fucking sick to my stomach atm

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 16:06 (two weeks ago)

A lot of the $ came from one specific private equity executive piece of garbage

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 16:09 (two weeks ago)

he gave 10k iirc

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 16:10 (two weeks ago)

The GoFundMe for Good is over $1.5M iirc. But yeah inevitably one gets set up for the murderer every time now.

nashwan, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 16:15 (two weeks ago)

Supposedly gofundme is breaking its own rule about allowing fundraising for people accused of violent crimes, or something like that. And if the gofundme was still too subtle for the ICE is just doing its job crew, this was the utterly offensive statement reportedly at the top of the fundraiser before it was changed (assuming it has): "The stupod cunts want to make a go fund me for the stupod bitch that got what she deserved"

There have been a few of these fundraisers for this ICE choad, including one that reportedly takes aim at mayor Jacob Frey, an "anti-American" traitor "who is Jewish."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 16:56 (two weeks ago)

I cannot believe GoFundMe has not cancelled that fundraiser

Finding newfound empathy for autistic people when Elon headed DOGE and claiming his Nazi salute was "stimming"

who did this?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 17:25 (two weeks ago)

are we sure it's GoFundMe and not GoSendMe

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 17:34 (two weeks ago)

who did this?

a ton of people during Inauguration week

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 17:35 (two weeks ago)

sorry, not GoSendMe, GiveSendGo?

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 17:35 (two weeks ago)

jesus fucking christ. at least some people have spines enough to quit over it, but good god that it was even asked.

Three Minnesota federal prosecutors resigned over the Justice Department’s push to investigate the widow of a woman killed by an ICE agent and its reluctance to investigate the shooter, according to people with knowledge of their decision.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 18:02 (two weeks ago)

Oh of course it was asked

treeship., Tuesday, 13 January 2026 18:03 (two weeks ago)

they're really leaning into the 'paid agitator' thing, that's the real part of the story that needs to be investigated - not the poor woman shot in the head for making a three point turn

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 18:17 (two weeks ago)

One of Trump's most enduring life lessons is that the court system can be endlessly manipulated in his favor, burdening his enemies with legal costs to defend against his lawsuits, creating delays, quibbles and confusions that force favorable settlements or dismissals when he is the defendant. Also, it's handy for multiple bankruptcies. Having his own goons to threaten people into silence is another big lesson, as is the utility of lying about everything all the time, but that's another story.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 18:23 (two weeks ago)

The whole "paid protesters" thing is such an automatic talking point now on the right, including elected officials, that I wish some big media would do a comprehensive takedown of it. Not that it would stop people saying it, but it would be handy to have the link to drop here and there. As far as I can tell, the only source anyone ever cites is this guy who runs a company called Crowds on Demand, who has made a cottage industry of giving interviews to right-wing outlets telling them that he is hired to provide paid protesters for "both sides." He never offers specifics, just leaves this open impression that this is how most protests work.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 18:23 (two weeks ago)

It’s inconceivable to them that people would do anything and not demand pay for it

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 18:28 (two weeks ago)

they're really leaning into the 'paid agitator' thing

There were some paid agitators involved. They just happened to be paid by the government.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 18:29 (two weeks ago)

feels like when Christians say "if you're not afraid of hell, why be a good person?", more than anything they seem to be telling on themselves

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 18:29 (two weeks ago)

this cracks me up... I could totally see him wearing it around the WH

President Trump’s former national security adviser John Bolton said Monday he was “always worried” Trump would take former President Theodore Roosevelt’s Nobel Prize medal from its display in the White House.

“Theodore Roosevelt’s Nobel medallion hangs on the wall of the Roosevelt Room in the White House. I was always worried he would grab that if he can’t get another one,” Bolton told host Erin Burnett on CNN’s “OutFront,” referencing the prize Roosevelt won in 1906 for mediating an end to the Russo-Japanese War.

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 18:44 (two weeks ago)

reminds me of the Seinfeld ep where George wears Babe Ruth's uniform and eats with it on

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 18:49 (two weeks ago)

Just another day in hell. Not worse than many other videos, obviously. But Jesus. Imagine being in your car trying to go somewhere and the net result is these goons bust out your window, drag you out of the car by force, cuff you, and then drive off with your car. Just fucking insane and horrible that this is going on.

Today at 34 & Park in Minneapolis, a woman tried to drive down the street where a protest had broken out in front of a home ICE was raiding, saying she had a doctor apt to get to. ICE agents busted out her windows, cut off her seatbelt, and pulled her out before arresting her.

https://bsky.app/profile/noturtlesoup17.bsky.social/post/3mcdab3qrvs2g

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:12 (two weeks ago)

fucking nightmare

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:15 (two weeks ago)

https://www.rawstory.com/ice-agents-data-leak/

good start

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:17 (two weeks ago)

It's the Fashley Madison leak

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:21 (two weeks ago)

lol

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:32 (two weeks ago)

my god, that fucking video. Mirror has picked it up, no doubt American press will start running this one soon.

"why didn't she leave?". well, the doctor she was seeing was there, and also, the last person asked to do so got shot when she did

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:37 (two weeks ago)

Well this is still a constitutional republic and they only have the support of at most 35% of the country. So this cannot go on.

i've seen this a few times, the reference to how the fascists only have the support of 35% of the country (enthusiastic support, or tacit approval via repeatedly voting for fascists).

i don't think this is the right way to think about it. it's not like when 35% of voters tips to 50%, suddenly magical happens and works. and on the other side (i hope this is a hopeful thought), we don't need 51% of the country to actively resist fascism. that would be great, but it's not going to happen.

the truth is that it's never 50% of the country that makes anything happen. the vast, vast majority of people here just don't know or care or do anything. they are not active. what happened to them? i don't know, a lot of them have a tons of shit going on, and a lot of them are just lost in a separate digital world where they feel slightly more in control.

it's more like 5%, 10%, 15% who are incredibly engaged (whether evil endeavors or trying to create a better world), and they lead and do things and act, while everyone else responds. that should be encouraging, because i think there is still more love and "good" in the united states then there are completely evil evangelical fascists. but whatever those amounts are (the heavily active, engaged people), it's a relatively small portion of the country and i don't think that national party votes really reflect it

z_tbd, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:39 (two weeks ago)

watching that video and it's only matter of time before someone domes one of those agents

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:44 (two weeks ago)

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5686992-fatal-ice-shooting-minnesota-survey/

I know it looks bad that 35% say this was justified, but in *this* country, that basically means only Republicans support it and that there is a small pocket of dissent in there.

saying it's not justified does not mean "...and I'm angry enough to speak up/do something", so 53% responding that way to a poll doesn't mean they're all ready to fight. but it does mean that independent voters are starting to be disgusted by this shit, including people who voted Trump in 2024, and means there's people who are still winnable to the fight.

it's bleak...but when you compare this side by side with the % of people who support strict border enforcement, you'll see far more people support the latter than this or other extreme ICE actions. so when you can't win the support of people who actually wanted you to deport people, that means more of the populace recognizes you as something other than immigration enforcement

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:46 (two weeks ago)

one thing I'm seeing in a lot of these videos is agents screaming at these people to get out of the way while also telling them to stop moving so they can get arrested, seems like a deliberate tactic to get them to "disobey" so they can brutalize them, though honestly I think these fuckers just have no clue what they're doing or what they're supposed to be doing, there is no plan outside of terrorizing people

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:49 (two weeks ago)

no there is no plan

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:50 (two weeks ago)

NYT writing that 6federal prosecutors have quit over the push to investigate Good's wife. Will they not just be replaced by loyalist? they should have just sunk the investigation if that's the case.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:50 (two weeks ago)

it's weird how similar the MO is. surround the car, scream at them to leave, then try to open the door of the car

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:51 (two weeks ago)

plus they are stupid

a (waterface), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:51 (two weeks ago)

and fat

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:52 (two weeks ago)

they're emotionally unstable people, possibly with PTSD from various overseas wars, disturbed enough that many would fail the police psych exam, are hearing whistles blaring in their ears for hours, screamed at by people who aren't properly welcoming them as 'heroes', and being insulted and cussed at.

all of this is legal. all of this should happen in a free society - and it leads these mentally unstable menaces to pop off like an abusive lover who has been screamed at by the person they're abusing demanding an end to the abuse. they're reacting accordingly.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:52 (two weeks ago)

seems like a deliberate tactic to get them to "disobey" so they can brutalize them

while I don't want to ascribe too much deliberation to these goons but this is part of it, for sure. the escalated version of how cops always work. scream contradictory directions at a person already in one of the possibly most stressful moments of their lives in order to hope they make a mistake so you can slap a "resisting" charge on top. except now it's to get the all clear for murder.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:52 (two weeks ago)

NYT writing that 6federal prosecutors have quit over the push to investigate Good's wife. Will they not just be replaced by loyalist? they should have just sunk the investigation if that's the case.

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, January 13, 2026 3:50 PM bookmarkflaglink

i don't know that there's really an easy way to do that

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:53 (two weeks ago)

This morning, CNN correspondent on the ground near where Good was shot mentioned civilians and agents running through alleys, also described two of the latter spraying each other "by accident," but does he know that?

dow, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:54 (two weeks ago)

CNN has the worst legal analysts in the mainstream industry, and probably (other than the NYT) had the most watered down take on the Good shooting out of all of the mainstreams. i'm avoiding them except where they're the only one with the scoop, which fortunately isn't often

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:55 (two weeks ago)

xpost True, they may have been pranking each other.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:57 (two weeks ago)

it's weird how similar the MO is. surround the car, scream at them to leave, then try to open the door of the car
There was a WAPO article (posted upthread somewhere) explaining how their actions re: cars have been a repeated strategy.

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 20:57 (two weeks ago)

Yeah, if they surround the car and one of is shouting "move!", then the second you move the car they can charge you with attempted vehicular homicide, or just shoot you.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 21:02 (two weeks ago)

i am definitely the type of person who goes deer in headlights and short-circuits the moment contradictory instructions get shouted, and we're talking like, one boss telling you "put that plate right there" and the other saying "why are you putting that plate there?".

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 21:04 (two weeks ago)

going back to CNN, after Minnesota and Illinois filed their lawsuits against ICE, their legal analyst was almost immediately on air, stating unequivocally that neither have any chance of succeeding, while misstating the content of the Minnesota suit.

I mean...it is probably true that neither will succeed, but they're the only mainstream legal analyst who's even bothered to really comment on that and now Fox News is actually citing this expert in their own news reporting. what is even the point of it - if I want someone's legal analysis, I'll read Steve Vladeck, not Clown News Nightmare

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 21:09 (two weeks ago)

i apologize if there are any clowns itt

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 21:09 (two weeks ago)

xps my bad it was WSJ for anyone interested.

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 21:09 (two weeks ago)

all the cable news networks are total clown shows xp

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 21:11 (two weeks ago)

I've got a good friend who is a professional clown, he honestly does not like it when people call politicians clowns because he's a pretty civically-minded dude.

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 21:12 (two weeks ago)

even a posse of insane clowns have more honor and morals than these fucks

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 21:14 (two weeks ago)

Faygo to the polls

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 21:22 (two weeks ago)

So you're saying ICP > ICE?

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 21:24 (two weeks ago)

yeah you know me

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 21:28 (two weeks ago)

lol

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 21:53 (two weeks ago)

Remember when ICP cancelled their annual gathering in 2020 because of the right of all juggalos to be safe and keep each other safe from COVID? Much much love to all those dudes, a clown would NEVER.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 21:56 (two weeks ago)

TMZ now publicizing today's antics - https://www.tmz.com/2026/01/13/ice-agents-arrests-minneapolis-chaos/

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 22:21 (two weeks ago)

She shouts ... "I've been beat up by police before. I'm disabled, so I had to go to the doctor up there. That's why I didn't move."

dow, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 22:26 (two weeks ago)

made the mistake of reading Twitter and they're all like "the road is blocked, she should have complied", like ICE are full-on beat cops now that aren't exceeding the scope of their authority

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 22:30 (two weeks ago)

UPDATE: Hearing in Minneapolis is over.

Judge Menendez appeared skeptical of Trump administration on a few key points: That ICE can pull over cars that are following them, even if those cars obey all traffic laws; that officers can draw guns on stopped motorists without evidence…

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) January 13, 2026

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 22:31 (two weeks ago)

In my heart of heart I know that Bluesky is going to become that eventually

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 22:32 (two weeks ago)

ICE aren't allowed to demand you get out of your car without a warrant or probable cause. they're using the thin 'officer safety' proviso but every one of these carjackings is capital I illegal

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 22:33 (two weeks ago)

water seeks its own level, and social media seeks the iq and ignorance levels of the people.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 22:35 (two weeks ago)

seek

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 22:36 (two weeks ago)

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5687229-ice-trump-administration-support-poll/

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 22:38 (two weeks ago)

https://www.whatimreading.net/p/claudette-colvin-civil-rights-pioneer-bus-dead

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 22:53 (two weeks ago)

CNN online (incl. live from Gaza) is usually better than TV---this is pretty good (although six prosecutors have now quit; article's only up to three):
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/13/us/renee-good-minneapolis-ice-monitoring-school-invs

dow, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 23:00 (two weeks ago)

ABC world news played video of disabled woman being ripped out of car

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 January 2026 23:36 (two weeks ago)

In my heart of heart I know that Bluesky is going to become that eventually

― Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, January 13, 2026 5:32 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

have been very depressed how nearly every time I watch a video on bsky of ICE wilding out, there are always at least two comments in this vein:
1) call the cops! call 911! arrest these guys!
2) that person being choked is going to sue the crap out of those guys

rob, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 23:43 (two weeks ago)

Sadly I am sure there are worse things than what we are seeing happening behind closed doors. These people have been given an order to terrorize civilians.

treeship., Tuesday, 13 January 2026 23:59 (two weeks ago)

I need to stop reading about this for the day, but I'll take a look at this tomorrow:
https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

rob, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 00:07 (two weeks ago)

I saw a video of an ice officer kneeling on man’s head. Like a sly reference to george floyd, right in minneapolis.

treeship., Wednesday, 14 January 2026 00:16 (two weeks ago)

thinking about George Floyd makes me even madder now. I'm sure a lot of people have pointed out that it's the BLM folks who are out in droves after Good's murder while the "All Lives Matter" crowd are saying "the bitch deserved it"

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 00:18 (two weeks ago)

I think the symbolism of george floyd is a major reason minneapolis is being targeted.

treeship., Wednesday, 14 January 2026 00:22 (two weeks ago)

oh definitely.. Derek Chauvin was treated so unfairly!

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 00:33 (two weeks ago)

I think that's exactly what Trump's deranged comment about "reckoning and retribution" meant. Minneapolis is where people pushed back against a white cop killing a Black man.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 02:30 (two weeks ago)

a list of 4500 ICE officers was leaked by a whistleblower - (haven't seen it myself but Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio is said to be on it)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-agents-personal-information-leak-doxxed-b2899973.html

StanM, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 10:14 (two weeks ago)

Radley Balko summarizes the last four days:

-- Elissa Slotkin says she's being criminally investigated by DOJ
-- ICE illegally goes "door to door" in Minneapolis
-- FBI raids the home of a WP journalist
-- DHS illegally arrests, detains 100+ Somalians with legal refugee status
-- ICE beats, arrests, beats, detains multiple U.S. citizens
-- ICE illegally beats, detains people for 1A-protected speech
-- Prosecutors resign from DOJ for refusal to investigate Good killing
-- Prosecutors resign from DOJ over decision to investigate Good herself
-- Miller responds to ICE brutality by publicly declaring -- wrongly -- that ICE agents have immunity from criminal prosecution
-- DHS continues to post tributes to white nationalist culture
-- ICE agents beat a U.S. citizen teen for recording them, took his phone, and sold it
-- DHS allows ICE prosecutor who praised Hitler to keep his job
-- Republicans sponsor bill authorizing Trump to invade Greenland
-- ICE agents repeatedly threaten protesters with references to Good's death
-- News that the US bombed alleged drug boat with plane disguised as civilian -- a war crime
-- DOJ announces criminal investigation of Fed Chair Jerome Powell
-- Trump defends killing of Good b/c she "disrespected law enforcement"

https://bsky.app/profile/radleybalko.bsky.social/post/3mcfcsfqtf22j

rob, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 15:51 (two weeks ago)

Good morning!

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 15:52 (two weeks ago)

<3

rob, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 15:52 (two weeks ago)

https://inthesetimes.com/article/minneapolis-renee-good-ice-shooting-labor-unions

“We Are Facing a Tsunami of Hate”: Amid ICE Crackdown, Unions and Community Groups Call for Minnesota Shutdown in 10 Days

Following the ICE murder of Renee Good and an assault on the state by federal immigration forces, a labor-community coalition is calling for residents to refuse to work, shop or go to school on January 23.

this is encouraging though

rob, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 15:55 (two weeks ago)

ICE agents beat a U.S. citizen teen for recording them, took his phone, and sold it

its not the worst thing on here but in some sense the most infuriating. the federal government is beating up kids, stealing their property, and selling it for cash. they wake up every morning and dedicate themselves to pure evil. I won't vote for anyone who doesn't vow to punish these monsters on Day 1.

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 16:04 (two weeks ago)

They are just lawless armed thugs running around our streets

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 16:09 (two weeks ago)

forgot to add with the backing of the federal government as well

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 16:10 (two weeks ago)

I mean the whole thing is just so on the nose. this is exactly the way Trump has always described the big city. you can't walk down the street without getting beaten and robbed. people are getting kidnapped in broad daylight. they'll shoot you if you look at them funny. it's not safe to go outside because there are people who belong in insane asylums everywhere you look. he manifested the whole thing.

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 16:24 (two weeks ago)

Statement from the Swedish prime minister:

Några officerare från den svenska Försvarsmakten anländer idag till Grönland. De ingår i en grupp från flera allierade länder. Tillsammans ska de förbereda kommande moment inom ramen för den danksa ovningen Operation Arctic Endurance. det är på förfrågan från Danmark som Sverige skickar personal från Försvarsmakten.

Translation:

Some officers from the Swedish Armed Forces are arriving in Greenland today. They are part of a group from several allied countries. Together they will prepare for upcoming events within the framework of the Danish exercise Operation Arctic Endurance. It is at the request of Denmark that Sweden is sending personnel from the Armed Forces.

Worth noting that Marco Rubio has been pulled out of a scheduled meeting with the Danes in Greenland; JD Vance will be going instead. This is all very normal and cool.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 16:28 (two weeks ago)

Can't wait for the backlash against blonde blue-eyed Scandinavians.

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 16:35 (two weeks ago)

I saw they are going to offer 700 billion for Greenland, for comparison the ballroom's current cost is at 400 billion.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 16:36 (two weeks ago)

Actually isn't Minnesota pretty Scandinavian?

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 16:36 (two weeks ago)

ya!

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 16:37 (two weeks ago)

President Donald Trump’s plans to acquire Greenland could reportedly cost $700 billion, despite it being deeply unpopular with Americans.

[...]

The $700 billion price tag is an estimate crunched by scholars and former U.S. officials for planning purposes, and is more than half the Defense Department’s annual budget, according to NBC News.

(The ballroom is 400 *million*.)

Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 16:53 (two weeks ago)

A 400 billion dollar ballroom, now that really would be something to see.

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 16:56 (two weeks ago)

Actually isn't Minnesota pretty Scandinavian?

― Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Wednesday, January 14, 2026 10:36 AM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm mostly of Norwegian descent

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 17:10 (two weeks ago)

xpost 85% of that budget is just for the toilet

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 17:11 (two weeks ago)

xp Ole?

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 17:27 (two weeks ago)

is this meeting w/ Denmark officials going to be one that turns into a fight that is filmed on camera, like Zelensky?

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 17:30 (two weeks ago)

Trump said this morning he didn't know who the Premier was, which is a good start

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 17:31 (two weeks ago)

maybe a better comparator is the $40 billion trump gave to Argentina to buy reelection for Milei

rob, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 17:31 (two weeks ago)

surely we should have received 10% of Argentina in return, what happened to the art of the deal?

rob, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 17:32 (two weeks ago)

xp Ole?

― ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, January 14, 2026 11:27 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ha no but my grandma always talked about an Ole who lived with them on the farm I grew up on. Back then, sometimes a Norwegian bachelor would end up living with a farm family for years as a "hired man", but really kind of like an unofficial uncle.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 17:39 (two weeks ago)

Denmark doesn't seem like a country that'll be too easy to push around... or appreciate any attempt to.

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 17:43 (two weeks ago)

Republican Sen. Josh Hawley said Wednesday he’ll vote to block a resolution to rein in President Donald Trump’s war powers in Venezuela without congressional approval — flipping his position after heavy lobbying from the White House, including Trump himself.

Hawley’s reversal comes after he broke with party leaders last week and voted to advance it — and then found himself at the center of a significant pressure campaign from the president and the administration. Hawley was one of five GOP senators who voted with Democrats to advance the resolution.

The next steps aren’t yet clear: Senate GOP leaders are still attempting to flip another Republican to help kill the measure before it comes up for a final vote, which was expected Wednesday. Sen. Todd Young could be the pivotal vote, but he has not projected his plans.

Hawley, explaining his reversal Wednesday, told reporters that Secretary of State Marco Rubio sent him a letter that was “responsive” to his concerns.

Specifically, Hawley said, Rubio explained that the US currently has no ground troops in Venezuela, and that if the administration sought to put ground troops, it would abide by the War Powers Act and first seek congressional authorization.

He added Rubio told him directly the administration would not put ground troops into Venezuela.

“They do not seek to occupy Venezuela, but his commitment to abide by the War Powers notification procedures and also the Constitution is directly responsive to my concerns, so I’m inclined to take yes for an answer on this,” Hawley said.

imagine having this coward for a father

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:10 (two weeks ago)

in missouri we take pride in being the Show Me State!!!!

z_tbd, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:14 (two weeks ago)

WASHINGTON, Jan 14 (Reuters) - The Trump administration is suspending all visa processing for applicants from 75 countries, a State Department spokesperson said on Wednesday. The spokesperson did not elaborate on the plan, first reported by Fox News, which cited a State Department memo. The pause will begin on January 21, Fox News said. Somalia, Russia, Iran, Afghanistan, Brazil, Nigeria, Thailand are among the affected countries, according to the report.

The memo directs U.S. embassies to refuse visas under existing law while the department reassesses its procedures. No time frame was provided. The reported pause comes amid the sweeping immigration crackdown pursued by Republican U.S. President Donald Trump since taking office last January.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:14 (two weeks ago)

75 countries

treeship., Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:16 (two weeks ago)

Rubio told him directly the administration would not put ground troops into Venezuela.

(One month later.) Rubio tells Hawley directly, "Ooops! We changed our minds."

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:18 (two weeks ago)

(xp) They're going to stop Brazilian fans from going to the World Cup? That should be interesting.

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:18 (two weeks ago)

That's a lot of fans.

peace, man, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:19 (two weeks ago)

Says it doesn't apply to tourist visas so...

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:20 (two weeks ago)

But who the fuck knows. 16 of the 75 countries are World Cup qualifiers:

Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Antigua and Barbuda, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Bhutan, Bosnia, Brazil, Burma, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Colombia, Cote d’Ivoire, Cuba, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Dominica, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Fiji, Gambia, Georgia, Ghana, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Nepal, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Pakistan, Republic of the Congo, Russia, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Thailand, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Uruguay, Uzbekistan and Yemen.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:20 (two weeks ago)

xp

Surprisingly, one of the countries is Russia. The full list: Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Antigua and Barbuda, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Bhutan, Bosnia, Brazil, Burma, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Colombia, Côte d’Ivoire, Cuba, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Dominica, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Fiji, Gambia, Georgia, Ghana, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Nepal, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Pakistan, Republic of the Congo, Russia, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Thailand, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, and Yemen.

The story I read was confusing, though; it seems like the freeze is for immigration visas, but some writers are claiming it will affect tourism. Aren't those two separate things? Or is the regime simply slamming the door, period? And figuring white Americans will buy all the World Cup tickets?

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:21 (two weeks ago)

No it's for immigration visas as those darn immigrants are all signing on to welfare, they'll probably extend it to tourist visas in the end though

one man against the cistern (Matt #2), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:22 (two weeks ago)

this regime is already affecting tourism even w/o "official" decrees so whether such decrees impact "tourist" or "residence" visas it doesn't matter

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:23 (two weeks ago)

Surprisingly, one of the countries is Russia.

Trump's peeved at Putin for not allowing him his Peace Prize over Ukraine.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:24 (two weeks ago)

this is a really good interview

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/12/podcasts/the-daily/minneapolis-police-chief-ice-shooting.html

a (waterface), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:25 (two weeks ago)

And of course it's really racist reasoning in the statement accompanying this - bullshit about how people from these countries "steal wealth" from Americans. just a new outrage every fuckin' day really.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:28 (two weeks ago)

i say this as someone who looked forward to having the World Cup here for several years but I really just wish they'd take it from us. it's completely poisoned right now

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:32 (two weeks ago)

FIFA will only do it if there's a huge amount of revenue to be lost. unfortunately, all that we have to suggest this is happening is a bogus story circulating amongst the resistance that 16,000 people 'cancelled' their tickets (even though they are non-refundable). really wish our side would get better at vetting articles.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:35 (two weeks ago)

from Forbes:

The visa suspensions will not apply to visitors coming to the U.S. for the World Cup. The U.S. tourism industry is counting on an influx of foreign visitors this summer for the tournament, which FIFA expects to drive $30.5 billion in total economic output and create 185,000 jobs in the U.S. this year. The U.S. was the only country in the world to see international visitor spending decline in 2025, according to a study by the World Travel & Tourism Council (WTTC) that blamed the drop on multiple Trump administration initiatives that make it more difficult or expensive for foreign travelers to enter the country. Last week, the State Department said it was significantly expanding its visa bond program to include 38 countries whose citizens will be required to post bonds of up to $15,000 to enter the U.S. on a tourist visa. The administration’s “Big Beautiful Bill” introduced a new $250 visa integrity fee for most non-immigrant U.S. visas, including tourist, student and work visas.

I think people saying it'll impact tourism are more or less saying that people might be less likely to visit after these moves even if they don't technically ban leisure travel, due to anxiety over visiting the country at a period of time where even citizens who simply appear foreign have been detained, or a boycott due to the immigration visa ban, or a combination of all things. quite frankly, who the fuck wants to come here right now

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:38 (two weeks ago)

oh BULLSHIT

The ICE agent who fatally shot Renee Good during a January 7 encounter in Minneapolis suffered internal bleeding to the torso, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) confirmed to Newsweek on Wednesday.

The agent, identified as Jonathan Ross, was hospitalized following the shooting, officials initially told CBS News. Authorities have not released additional details about his injuries or current status. The incident remains under investigation by the FBI.

show us any report from the hospital. clearly made up.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:39 (two weeks ago)

I don't really see much connection between all those nations - some even have white people. Are they just all the 'shithole' countries of the world?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:40 (two weeks ago)

xp yeah that's a crock of shit

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:40 (two weeks ago)

Denmark failed to qualify for the World Cup through losing to... Scotland. Losing Greenland will be as nothing compared to that national shame.

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:41 (two weeks ago)

did the ice agent have a tummy ache caused by murdering someone? might have caused him some stomach stress

z_tbd, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:41 (two weeks ago)

"serious internal bleeding but he was released same day"

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:41 (two weeks ago)

not that it would change anything were it true, he put himself in the way of the car and shot someone who was fleeing.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:41 (two weeks ago)

doesn't any bruise meet the definition of "internal bleeding"?

rob, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:42 (two weeks ago)

Yes, bruising counts as 'internal bleeding'.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:43 (two weeks ago)

traumatic edema

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:44 (two weeks ago)

So, for example, that agent who fell down and became a meme also suffered from internal bleeding.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:45 (two weeks ago)

yeah dude maybe cracked a toenail and they're gonna milk this

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:47 (two weeks ago)

Donald Trump shakes too many hands=internal bleeding.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:47 (two weeks ago)

lol Raw Story is already challenging it

https://www.rawstory.com/bruise-ice-agent-dhs/

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:49 (two weeks ago)

have we discussed this fresh fascism?

The FBI raided the home of a Washington Post reporter early on Wednesday in what the newspaper called a “highly unusual and aggressive” move by law enforcement, and press freedom groups condemned as a “tremendous intrusion” by the Trump administration.

Agents descended on the Virginia home of Hannah Natanson as part of an investigation into a government contractor accused of illegally retaining classified government materials.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:52 (two weeks ago)

the pittsburgh post-gazette is no longer a newspaper
and teen vogue is toast
rawstory.com take the wheel

z_tbd, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:52 (two weeks ago)

It's amazing how quick the "tough guy" image evaporates every. single. fuckin'. time.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:52 (two weeks ago)

traumatic edema

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, January 14, 2026

Title of Jake Tapper's latest NYT best-seller about the Trump White House.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:52 (two weeks ago)

i love/hate raw story’s thing of just taking random social posts and enclosing them in quotes with the same status accorded as professional experts

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18:54 (two weeks ago)

I mean Raw Story is just a left-wing Drudge Report, this 'article' is more or less just to remind its own followers that this type of claim is dubious and has no real meaning by circulating its own readers' posts and even those of alpha male douchebros that think this is weaksauce for their ICE hero. given the vagueness of the term 'internal bleeding', there's really no expert consultation needed beyond Googling.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 19:00 (two weeks ago)

suffered internal bleeding to the torso

if this means anything at all, it would be what normal people refer to this as "a bruise"

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 19:01 (two weeks ago)

^^already pointed out, I now see

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 19:02 (two weeks ago)

The murderer could’ve had internal bleeding if he bit the inside of his cheek, but fuck that report.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 19:04 (two weeks ago)

We all know he was in no way seriously injured because if he had been we would all have been told it over and over. Instead they're "leaking" this bullshit about a bruise, with no specifics, no medical records, etc.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 19:06 (two weeks ago)

I'm suffering from internal bleeding (my feelings are hurt)

rob, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 19:07 (two weeks ago)

best Morrisey song

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 19:21 (two weeks ago)

Bruising for Cruising

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 19:23 (two weeks ago)

^^^the Al Pacino Story

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 19:31 (two weeks ago)

People seems to have picked up the baton from Teen Vogue; they're running some heavy anti-ICE stories this week.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 19:39 (two weeks ago)

People is absolutely crushing it -- I had no idea the people of People were not-cowards but they def are not.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 19:42 (two weeks ago)

Ryan Broderick of Garbage Day is in Minneapolis:

This weekend, I watched January 6th insurrectionist Jake Lang agitate crowds of anti-ICE protesters in Minneapolis and I realized how strange it was that he wasn’t just, you know, officially part of ICE. He could certainly join them, seeing as how their standards are so low they’re accidentally hiring Slate writers. But that’s what ICE’s true purpose is — a state-sanctioned holding pen for Trump’s most violent supporters. Looking back at it, January 6th was likely Trump’s version of the Night of the Long Knives, or at least a first attempt. Just like when the ascendant Nazi party cleared out their paramilitary gangs and laid the groundwork for more official party enforcers, to too do insurrectionists and far-right militia members now have two easily-monetizable paths towards legitimacy. (That aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive.) Join ICE and fuck up the libs and brutalize minorities, or film it for the internet.

If this all sounds very scary, don’t worry! The Democrats have finally settled on a response to the roving gangs attacking their constituents. New York Rep. Ritchie Torres proposed the Quick Recognition (QR) Act this morning, which would require ICE agents to wear a QR code that connects to a digital ID with the officer’s name and badge number. Maybe someday soon you’ll be able to scan an ICE agent like a restaurant menu right before he shoots you to death. That’s probably the best we can hope for, seeing as how Third Way, a noxious centrist think tank, is currently telling Democrats that “abolish ICE” is an “emotional” and “politically lethal” stance to take. Hey, at least Minneapolis Gov. Tim Walz finally did a very somber photoshoot at Renee Nicole Good’s memorial. Only took him about five days to get over here. Longer than he waited to mourn The Grateful Dead’s Bob Weir, in case you were wondering.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 19:44 (two weeks ago)

cool, if you scan quick enough you can know who shot you death! fucking failure of an "opposition" party.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 19:54 (two weeks ago)

Maybe they can set up a system where we can give ICE officers "citizen's demerits" and when they accumulate enough of them they get a sadface emoji texted to them.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 19:56 (two weeks ago)

FP's for ICE

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:00 (two weeks ago)

As a non-US Minnesota resident (not Twin Cities) my worry is when/if this will end? Because if it doesn't then is MN under de facto military occupation? Will I need to carry my "papers" at all times under threat of arrest/deportation? I feel kind of bad for worrying about it, it's not like I'm in Iran/Gaza or wherever, and not to mention that I'm white and unlikely to be racially profiled. But the hope that ICE will just drift off and everything returns to a semblance of normality may be just that - a hope.

one man against the cistern (Matt #2), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:03 (two weeks ago)

It's hard to say because Minneapolis has been an escalation in every possible way from past cities. "Normally" (ffs not that any of this is "normal") the MO has been to create hell and havoc for a few weeks and then move on, but I think any basis on recent past is out the window now.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:05 (two weeks ago)

these are things i think about

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:07 (two weeks ago)

I think it would be very strange to be living in the US as an immigrant and not be worried about your own status on some level

rob, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:09 (two weeks ago)

a local Australian performer that does Fringe festivals says he had to change the name of his play from "Ameri-CAN'T" to "Ameri-CAN" to be allowed a work visa to perform it in this country

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:12 (two weeks ago)

there have been some reports that ICE has come to my town in Wisconsin. we had a parents meeting at the school and a lot of people seemed very on edge about it. it happens to be the bilingual school so if any of them get terrorized it'll be that one. at the same time we had a lot of sleet around the clock so the roads are covered with ice right now. very confusing to talk about.

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:17 (two weeks ago)

So uh, he really is gonna be dumb enough to "invade" Greenland, isn't he?

Gotta say this first year has been wildly worse than I dreaded.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:34 (two weeks ago)

I mean, honestly this is where I do kinda start to believe the conspiracy theories that Trump is Putin's useful idiot in completely breaking down NATO for him.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:38 (two weeks ago)

As in sending in ground troops? That is still pretty hard to imagine

It looks like some kind of action in Iran is about to happen though

rob, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:38 (two weeks ago)

I'm tired folks

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:39 (two weeks ago)

he really is gonna be dumb enough to "invade" Greenland, isn't he?

we'll see.. I think there must be some cooler heads in the administration (Rubio, maybe?)... especially when they see the Nordic nations sending troops there. But who fucking knows, he's crazier than a shithouse rat

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:40 (two weeks ago)

Norway should claim North America back on the basis that Leif Eriksson was there hundreds of years before Columbus.

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:41 (two weeks ago)

I think there was a Swedish colony in what's now Delaware... they brought us the log cabin

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:44 (two weeks ago)

If Trump resorts to using the military to illegally seize Greenland this raises the question of how Trump thinks he's going to avoid a total bloodbath for Republicans in the midterms. The political reality is that the economy feels shitty to large swathes of his 'soft support' voters, who are waiting for more and better jobs and for prices to come down like he promised. They are also sick of foreign adventurism.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:51 (two weeks ago)

Without doomcasting, I genuinely believe that he is not giving one single thought to the midterms.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:52 (two weeks ago)

well, I think he is! He gave that speech where he expressed fear of another impeachment if the Dems take over congress

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:56 (two weeks ago)

That redistricting ploy in Texas shows he was aware of the midterms about six months ago.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 20:57 (two weeks ago)

yesterday (iirc) he gave a long rambling speech filled with lies about how swell the economy is, so he's concerned about something

rob, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:00 (two weeks ago)

He mentioned "affordability" a lot yesterday, which suggests that at least his advisors are nervously Trump-whispering.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:01 (two weeks ago)

Maybe I should have been clearer, I believe he knows they are a thing and that they exist. I just don't think the midterms are impacting his current decision making at all. His team is working on ways to handicap the midterms sure.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:01 (two weeks ago)

fwiw I think there are better reasons than the midterms to find it, at the present moment, very unlikely that he's going to send US troops into battle against NATO forces from Denmark, Sweden and I think I saw Germany, Canada, and the UK are sending people too

rob, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:05 (two weeks ago)

they really need to find an exit strategy for this greenland bullshit, some 'new agreement' or 'enhanced cooperation' or something, because the current drive for 'ownership' will not result in any victory, domestically or internationally

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:22 (two weeks ago)

President Donald Trump announced that Iran had stopped killing anti-government protesters after he threatened to take action if the killings continued.

"We’ve been told that the killing in Iran is stopping and there’s no plans for an execution," Trump told reporters in the Oval Office

you sure about that?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:26 (two weeks ago)

And Iran says:

Iran’s judiciary chief has pledged to fast-track trials for those arrested over a wave of protests that the authorities have dismissed as “riots” as rights groups warn the judiciary will make extensive use of capital punishment.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:32 (two weeks ago)

since he seems to care so deeply about anti-government protestors getting killed someone should clue him in about what's happening in Minnesota

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:37 (two weeks ago)

not the same thing at all... those are paid protesters

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:44 (two weeks ago)

MN General Strike day called for the 23rd, apparently!

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:46 (two weeks ago)

Omg do it tomorrow fucking start now for christ

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:48 (two weeks ago)

don't let them hold you back from starting tomorrow on your own

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:51 (two weeks ago)

Omg do it tomorrow fucking start now for christ

― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, January 14, 2026 3:48 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

fuck off

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:54 (two weeks ago)

CEO who told anti-ICE protesters 'we executed one of you' resigns https://share.google/lfLSwd6RLKrZbZtgM

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:56 (two weeks ago)

If there's one thing I am sick of, it's people telling other people to "step up" in ways they often aren't willing to

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:57 (two weeks ago)

well shit i wonder is this could pick up some steam nationally

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 21:57 (two weeks ago)

I saw some things about a national walk-out being pushed for April, wonder if this can be sped up elsewhere in solidarity.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 22:03 (two weeks ago)

One would hope for at least widespread 'solidarity' street demonstrations across the nation and world on Jan 23rd. Seems doable.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 22:07 (two weeks ago)

I just heard the audio of him explaining the end of executions in Iran and holy cow that smarmy tone of voice he uses to explain things that make him so smart. When he is so dumb. Jeez Louise.

tobo73, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 22:10 (two weeks ago)

so he ended another war, that means yet another nobel prize for him

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 22:13 (two weeks ago)

if anyone is looking for a good place to donate to, this is a Latino church in South Minneapolis that is doing grocery deliveries to people too scared to leave their homes

https://www.zeffy.com/en-US/donation-form/despensas-food-drive

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 22:47 (two weeks ago)

thanks, donated

na (NA), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 22:51 (two weeks ago)

thx too

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 January 2026 00:28 (two weeks ago)

the white house put out a post on X that says "which way, greenland man?"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/14/trump-administration-white-supremacist-language

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 January 2026 00:53 (two weeks ago)

they're getting pretty bold with the racist dog whistles

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 January 2026 00:57 (two weeks ago)

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark White House

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 January 2026 01:11 (two weeks ago)

lol even the nazi's don't like this shit (Zion Don!)

“Greenland says it would rather stay with Denmark,” wrote one neo-Nazi tastemaker on Telegram, in a post viewed close to 2,000 times on the app. “Zion Don’s response is to imply they’re going to take it anyway and the people who live there have no say. The world will not tolerate this kind of behavior very long.”

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 January 2026 01:12 (two weeks ago)

Dark lol

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 15 January 2026 01:13 (two weeks ago)

man when you’ve lost the neo-Nazis

ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 15 January 2026 01:33 (two weeks ago)

especially the neo-Nazi tastemakers

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 January 2026 01:37 (two weeks ago)

Aka Waffenfluencers

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 January 2026 01:42 (two weeks ago)

'And the problem ⁠is there's not a thing that Denmark can do ⁠about it if Russia or China wants to occupy Greenland, but there's everything we ‍can do. ⁠You found that out last week with Venezuela,' he added.

'I can't rely on Denmark being able to fend themselves off.'

DUDE. This is what NATO is for, you fucking moron. If Russia or China wants to occupy it, then NATO steps in to prevent it.. fucking dumbshit

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 January 2026 01:46 (two weeks ago)

Yes but he hates NATO and wants to break it up. That’s part of the real game with Greenland. Venezuela was to scare Latin America, Greenland is to scare Europe. It’s the whole maniacal hemisphere thing.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 15 January 2026 02:42 (two weeks ago)

The Texas Observer outed an ICE prosecutor as an online white supremacist last year, and it appears that after some unspecified internal review he's just back on the job.

In February of last year, the Texas Observer reported that James “Jim” Joseph Rodden—an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) assistant chief counsel who acts as a prosecutor for ICE in immigration court in Dallas—operates a white supremacist X account named GlomarResponder, based on an overwhelming number of biographical details that the Observer matched through publicly available documents, other social media activity, and courtroom observation.

The account has over 17,000 followers and has routinely posted hateful statements, including that “America is a White nation,” that “‘Migrants’ are all criminals,” and that “All blacks are foreign to my people,” in addition to posts with apparent praise of Adolf Hitler.

https://www.texasobserver.org/ice-prosecutor-racist-account-back-at-immigration-court/

This is the guy. He's got the white part down, not sure about the supreme.

https://i.ibb.co/m5ypsK35/Screenshot-2026-01-14-at-10-58-24-PM.png

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 15 January 2026 04:07 (two weeks ago)

seeing some actual journalism about how incredibly easy it is to sign up for ICE. they do not appear to do background checks at all. one reporter used her own name and got an offer despite being very critical of them in the past. the entire process seems deliberately designed to attract lowlives and violent freaks.

frogbs, Thursday, 15 January 2026 04:15 (two weeks ago)

The trump heckler’s gofundme is over 800k now. Can’t wait to see the crowd response the next time he has to make a public appearance…

henry s, Thursday, 15 January 2026 04:34 (two weeks ago)

this country raising nearly a million overnight for a dude who called the president a pedophile does fill me with a bit of patriotism

frogbs, Thursday, 15 January 2026 04:36 (two weeks ago)

Oof, this is bad bad

Non-protesting dad just trying to hustle his kids, as young as 6mo, out of the neighborhood. ICE threw a flash-bang INTO HIS car, all 6 kids in the hospital now.

If anyone wondered how things turn against occupying armies there's a case study playing out in front of you.

Apparently the 6-month-old baby is in particularly bad shape.

https://bsky.app/profile/dburbach.bsky.social/post/3mcgqlkq46k2p

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Thursday, 15 January 2026 05:02 (two weeks ago)

another shot in Northside, ICE is all over Columbia Heights tonight, all out war

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 January 2026 05:41 (two weeks ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/theodoraruhs.bsky.social/post/3mcgtepy6nk26

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 January 2026 05:43 (two weeks ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/noturtlesoup17.bsky.social/post/3mcgs4krkvc2f

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 January 2026 05:43 (two weeks ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/noturtlesoup17.bsky.social/post/3mcgp6ukozc2b

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 January 2026 05:43 (two weeks ago)

this is Minnesota

https://bsky.app/profile/abaez02.bsky.social/post/3mcgnlxr2gs2m

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 January 2026 05:44 (two weeks ago)

anything to say Jimmy the Mod?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 January 2026 05:45 (two weeks ago)

Dire times

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 15 January 2026 06:34 (two weeks ago)

Ryan Broderick of Garbage Day is in Minneapolis:

…Hey, at least Minneapolis Gov. Tim Walz finally did a very somber photoshoot at Renee Nicole Good’s memorial. Only took him about five days to get over here. Longer than he waited to mourn The Grateful Dead’s Bob Weir, in case you were wondering.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 19:44

Oooof. Bodied.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 15 January 2026 06:36 (two weeks ago)

Formatting fail

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 15 January 2026 06:36 (two weeks ago)

Minneapolis resident Keith Harris offers reporting.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2026 14:24 (two weeks ago)

Feeling a weird mixture of horror and pride for me Minnesota people right now.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 January 2026 14:27 (two weeks ago)

(autocorrect there) "my people", i'm not a pirate

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 January 2026 14:28 (two weeks ago)

You can be a pirate if you like. We need pirates 🏴‍☠️

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 15 January 2026 14:30 (two weeks ago)

Welp, looking who’s threatening the Insurrection Act >:-(((

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 15 January 2026 14:32 (two weeks ago)

Not terribly surprised at that, just hoping it's just another threat.

But it's all so maddening. His shock troops come in, murder people and terrorize the population and somehow the neighbors protecting each other peacefully are the problem??? So infuriating to watch this play out.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 January 2026 14:34 (two weeks ago)

my friend (was in a band with him forever ago) who is a high school orchestra teacher now just posted on Facebook that one of his student's families was driving and ICE threw tear gas into their moving car and the crashed because of it and the infant that was in the car had to be resuscitated.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 January 2026 14:37 (two weeks ago)

Jesus Christ.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 January 2026 14:39 (two weeks ago)

Jfc

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 January 2026 14:39 (two weeks ago)

Apparently some protesters scared a squad of ICE goons so badly they ran off, leaving their vehicle behind, and now...

Some ICE vehicles got taken and a streamer is saying that the entire MPLS city wide battle plan, operational overviews, tactical details and agent lists + id info just got found in the car lmao these clowns driving around with hatchbacks full of their whole shit like the villains in an immersive sim

Literally they fled on foot and they left maps transports logistic plans operational details this is insane they are just straight getting completely owned on a fucking live stream by a crew of rioters ive never seen anything like it

Booking info, staging plans, name of the hotels where theyre staying, literally got the receipts from the agent for the fucking hotel room "staging them in Wisconsin in a Wyndham " holy shit holy shit

They got the names of ICE and FBI agents, judges, phone numbers home addresses hotel receipts transport maps sorry for repeating myself but I cant fucking believe this shit

Got booking info forms, DNA request and database forms, the immigration judges, instructions on how to book their hotel I literally im losing it yall this is insane

They even got the "challenge coins" HOLY FUCK

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 15 January 2026 14:51 (two weeks ago)

As if there wasn't enough bad news, the appeals court reversed Mahmoud Khalil's release.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 January 2026 16:12 (two weeks ago)

from the NYT:

Immigration courts are part of the executive branch, not the judicial branch, and are overseen by the Justice Department. Those courts are the first to address deportation proceedings, which were initiated when Mr. Khalil was first detained.

But Mr. Khalil’s lawyers filed a writ of habeas corpus — a legal action for challenging incarceration — with a district judge seeking his release and the prevention of those proceedings.

On Thursday, the circuit judges found that the New Jersey district judge, Michael E. Farbiarz, lacked what is known as subject-matter jurisdiction, or the power to oversee certain types of matters. They ordered that he dismiss Mr. Khalil’s habeas petition.

The judges said that provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act, the key law that governs immigration, suggested that Mr. Khalil could not challenge his detention or the government’s attempt to remove him in Judge Farbiarz’s court without first going through the immigration court process.

The ruling, if it were to stand, would have major implications for anyone detained as the Trump administration sought to deport them. It would remove the most effective means that immigration lawyers have for freeing their clients from detention while they are in immigration proceedings. For that reason, Thursday’s decision will almost certainly be reviewed by a full panel of Third Circuit judges.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2026 16:16 (two weeks ago)

xpost

Unperson what’s the source on that one?

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 15 January 2026 16:20 (two weeks ago)

viborg - posted here:
https://bsky.app/profile/vickyacab.bsky.social/post/3mcgsyjxays2m

Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 15 January 2026 16:34 (two weeks ago)

Jamelle Bouie has a booming series of posts on "canceling" the elections:

https://bsky.app/profile/jamellebouie.net/post/3mchyxuueyk2p

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2026 16:48 (two weeks ago)

i'm so sick of that conversation because it always plays out the same way out BSky (so kudos to Bouie for that thread):

"Trump is going to <insert highly illegal and/or improbable thing here>!!!"

*someone with expertise points out this is unlikely due to legality or logistics or etc*

"Lol bless your heart, you think he cares about legality? Congress and SCOTUS will just do his bidding!"

it's like every bit of doomcasting is legitimized by "well he doesn't care about the law" as if that means their thought experiment now becomes a fact.

and it's often used by people who just kinda wanna stew in their own nihilism

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 January 2026 16:58 (two weeks ago)

(and obviously he's done illegal things but if he was just blatantly ignoring *every* law and *every* court order right now, we'd be in a very different place than we are currently at the moment).

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 January 2026 16:59 (two weeks ago)

yeah Bouie makes a good point at the end of the thread

anyway i already see people with undiagnosed anxiety replying to this with lurid fantasies of trump's god like powers so i'll end it here

a (waterface), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:00 (two weeks ago)

Trump loves to troll with election stuff--like putting out Trump 2028 merch. He would obviously cancel elections if he had the power to do so, but he doesn't really. Part of his shtick is an Antony offering Caesar the crown gambit, seeing how many people will go along with his hypothetical power grabs, how much pushback, etc.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:01 (two weeks ago)

call me crazy but hasn't he already done a number of things that were said to be beyond his power?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:03 (two weeks ago)

Right, "can he do that" has a range of answers.

Can he replace the Kennedy Center board with sycophants who will vote unanimously to rename it? Yes.

Can he sprout wings and fly to the moon? No.

See, it is possible there are limits to what he can do so it's rational to discuss those limits as being somewhere in between the above two channel markers.

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:04 (two weeks ago)

call me crazy but hasn't he already done a number of things that were said to be beyond his power?

at a state level, which elections are? no, he hasn't, because he can't.

a (waterface), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:04 (two weeks ago)

i.e. what jamelle said.

who cares what he cares about, the question is "how does this process actually work, and what mechanisms exist for him to affect it." the executive branch plays exactly zero role in the composition, certification and seating of a new congress.

a (waterface), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:05 (two weeks ago)

Catastrophizing makes you invulnerable; nothing can penetrate that carapace of doom.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:06 (two weeks ago)

xp like, i appreciate bouie doubting the ease of cancelling mid-terms, but trump mostly can get blue states to stop theirs by saying to do, and he can cause recognition and certification of the rest to be so contentious that i would not be surprised for trump simply to say i’m ignoring those electoral claims and i am assigning those seats as i please. of course this sounds ridiculous and criminal- it is. but his practice is simply to do obviously criminal acts until a force stops him or he chickens out— which he sometimes does. here, i see no force to stop him. and here i think the motivation is incredibly strong for completion of an horrific track that has been initiated. worse, the chaotic violent track has been escalated hugely, over and over in the face of reasonable non-violent resistance.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:06 (two weeks ago)

I think it is fair to assume there will be a significant effort to undermine elections in many different ways. It may not be straight up canceling, but it won't be good.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:08 (two weeks ago)

which is to say if an election falls in rhode island and nobody is seated did it make a sound

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:09 (two weeks ago)

here, i see no force to stop him.

There are 50 states with hundreds of local races. These candidates are simply going to...not run?

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:10 (two weeks ago)

Canceling an election in France might be easier than our federal system.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:10 (two weeks ago)

I hope they move from voting machines to secure paper ballots and count by hand.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:11 (two weeks ago)

It's cool when people post sexual assaulting rich kids cosplaying as revolutionaries as "facts" (Vicky ACAB is...not a trustworthy source, and has been through a few rounds of serious allegations of SA against her)

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:12 (two weeks ago)

yes but in each instance he's done it, it's been something he had an inside track to achieve and something that he's been able to get his lawyers to fit bullshit plausible deniability into. i.e. canceling funding to USAID - his own appointees had the ability to control the money dispersal, so it was hard to stop them from illegally cancelling that. but elections are state-run - he would have to send federal troops into each state and then basically seize everything and how is he going to do that in 50 states when his resources already seem to struggle containing a single state?

that doesn't mean his lawyer's creative writing exercises aren't just a form of creatively disobeying the law, but there are limits to what they'll do. It's already leaked in the past that Trump has been told not to invoke the Insurrection Act because of the public unrest it would cause. his team is very afraid of things escalating to a point they can't contain. neither their army nor ICE nor the resources have the capacity to occupy 50 states simultaneously, especially if the unrest was five times as widespread and no longer contained to peaceful protesting which would likely be the case if he did that. which is why he dangles it and doesn't deliver (even in 2020, when he came the closest to invoking it as he ever has).

almost every court order his lawyers have defied has always come up with some really twisted, inverted logic that has had to be untwisted by further action from the judge. in the end, when they've lost and been told to knock it the fuck off, they have still complied with *most* court orders - people have been rehired, funding restored, detainees released, Alina Habba resigned, etc. the most flagrant act was still the Kilmar Abrego Garcia act because the explanation given for why they did not disobey the order wasn't even a fig leaf (saying he said it out loud and didn't write it down so it wasn't recorded).

Trump is still very much in keeping the appearance of abiding by law and order and taking extreme measures only as a necessity, the moment he lets the kayfabe slip completely, he knows he's in for a battle that is far, far more difficult to contain than what is happening now.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:13 (two weeks ago)

Moodles position is where I stand. They won't be canceled, but there will be fuckery. To the point about there not being enough goons to cover every swing district, well sure. But fuckery isn't limited to just intimidation on the streets. It's changing the postmark date for mail-in ballots and creating a general sense of fear.

Building on YMP, there's a lot of ground between perfectly normal, legal elections proceeding as usual and canceled elections. We're going to be somewhere between those poles and it's understandable, given all that's going on right now, for folks to be fearful about how far towards the latter things will tip.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:13 (two weeks ago)

Of course federal leverage gets brought to bear on states - e.g., cutting off highway funds or grants - in a conditional manner. Look at speed limits and drinking ages, for example. Also look at how universities have been muscled about on DEI. There was also some unpleasantness about this in previous centuries.

I think a difference now is that Trump conflates the Executive Branch, acting alone, with the government. There used to be more branches, I think.

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:13 (two weeks ago)

the republican party has completely capitulated to pretty much everything he's asked for, so i think at the very least it's safe to say that we can continue to expect fuckery from republican-controlled states, which in any case wouldn't be a new thing. i think what gets glossed over in these convos is that this isn't a binary. our system allows for slim margins in key areas to be decisive in election outcomes. there has been a decades-long coordinated campaign by republican strategists -- including but not limited to the REDMAP program -- to rig the balance of congress in favor of republican candidates. we are starting with an uneven playing field, we're playing against a stacked deck. trump doesn't have to wave a magic wand and "cancel" elections, but anything he can do to tip the scales will have outsized consequences

budo jeru, Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:13 (two weeks ago)

xxxxpost there was another account that linked to a stream that actually showed images of the seized documents. i do think it's legit, what I don't know is if it's actually as big of a deal as it's being presented

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:14 (two weeks ago)

Xp my last was in response to waterface

at a state level, which elections are? no, he hasn't, because he can't.

― a (waterface)

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:15 (two weeks ago)

Booming posts, Neanderthal.

Fuckery? Yeah, I expect fuckery, and some of it might be significant.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:16 (two weeks ago)

Of course federal leverage gets brought to bear on states - e.g., cutting off highway funds or grants - in a conditional manner. Look at speed limits and drinking ages, for example. Also look at how universities have been muscled about on DEI. There was also some unpleasantness about this in previous centuries.

I think a difference now is that Trump conflates the Executive Branch, acting alone, with the government. There used to be more branches, I think.

Trump and Congress controls how $ get distributed to states for highway funds, for sure! That is demonstrably different than Trump being able to control 50 different states Secretary of State offices.

a (waterface), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:19 (two weeks ago)

also, a large part of why there hasn't been more widespread opposition to Trump from the less insane wing of his party is not merely fear of 'violence' from the MAGA base. it's mostly that they feel they can't keep their cushy job if they wind up in his crosshairs.

when some of these people see that, even based on their distorted internal poll numbers, they're about to lose their cushy livelihood *because* of him, there will start to be more resistance. it's never going to be "omg Republicans all turned on Trump today" level pushback because there will always be a floor that their party unity won't fall below no matter what happens.

but enough that Trump will start losing votes in Congress that he wasn't losing before. that isn't theoretical - that's already happening on a very small scale, mostly in the House. it's not going to be the 'thing that brings Trump down', but when there is infighting, it always slows down his fuckery to where he becomes more vulnerable.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:20 (two weeks ago)

xp 26 secretaries of state are republicans ...

budo jeru, Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:20 (two weeks ago)

when some of these people see that, even based on their distorted internal poll numbers, they're about to lose their cushy livelihood *because* of him, there will start to be more resistance

source????????

budo jeru, Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:22 (two weeks ago)

seems more likely that they will dig their heels in and continue brown-nosing him until the sun explodes and engulfs our planet

budo jeru, Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:23 (two weeks ago)

He's not gonna get even half to comply in November if things keep gong south for him

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:23 (two weeks ago)

xp 26 secretaries of state are republicans ...

― budo jeru, Thursday, January 15, 2026 5:20 PM (twenty-nine seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

So he's going to tell Republicans they can't be a part of Congress anymore? If there's no election, there's no Congress

a (waterface), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:24 (two weeks ago)

why?

budo jeru, Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:24 (two weeks ago)

xxp look at the trail of people who have utterly degraded themselves and had their lives destroyed by sticking by this dude. what evidence do you have that these republicans are ever going to change?

budo jeru, Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:25 (two weeks ago)

All they have to do is deploy militarized ICE goons to a few key cities and sow chaos during the elections to shift a few key races and tip the scales just enough. I’m sure they are already gaming all of this out to figure out the optimal strategy. There is no way they are just going to sit back and allow the House and/or Senate to fall under Democratic control if polls are looking bad for them. No way Trump will let that happen without a fight.

epistantophus, Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:25 (two weeks ago)

Oh.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:27 (two weeks ago)

l

xxxxpost there was another account that linked to a stream that actually showed images of the seized documents. i do think it's legit, what I don't know is if it's actually as big of a deal as it's being presented

that’s fine, i just feel the need to talk shit on that particular poster whenever I can, since she assaulted a friend of mine and totally fucking sucks

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:29 (two weeks ago)

All they have to do is deploy militarized ICE goons to a few key cities and sow chaos during the elections to shift a few key races and tip the scales just enough. I’m sure they are already gaming all of this out to figure out the optimal strategy. There is no way they are just going to sit back and allow the House and/or Senate to fall under Democratic control if polls are looking bad for them. No way Trump will let that happen without a fight.

Don’t know if this will have the outcome you think it will— it’s been shown that many of the places where his fascist thugs have been deployed have turned against Trump and republicans more strongly

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:30 (two weeks ago)

xxxxxpost it's not as if state elections are conducted at the county level and then they go to the Secretaries desk and they unilaterally say "nope doesn't count" and that's that. if that were the case, we'd have seen way more fuckery in 2020.

most states allow for court action in the case of a secretary of state refusing to certify results. and 19 of the 50 states have bipartisan election boards.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:33 (two weeks ago)

I was gonna say: expect unprecedented mass reistance.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:34 (two weeks ago)

Don’t know if this will have the outcome you think it will— it’s been shown that many of the places where his fascist thugs have been deployed have turned against Trump and republicans more strongly

agreed!!!!

a plurality of American voters support abolishing ICE now! 8 years ago only 18% did. ICE goons are definitely souring the entire country on them right now. a majority of those polled said Ross should face charges and the shooting was not justified too!

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:35 (two weeks ago)

that’s fine, i just feel the need to talk shit on that particular poster whenever I can, since she assaulted a friend of mine and totally fucking sucks

― a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, January 15, 2026 12:29 PM bookmarkflaglink

that's horrible - very sorry that happened to them :(

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:35 (two weeks ago)

it doesn't matter what a plurality of americans think. if the system worked like that, we'd have universal healthcare

budo jeru, Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:36 (two weeks ago)

anyway, the problem with these convos isn't the suggestion that Trump might do something terrible, it's the weird certainty so many have in doomcasting the way it will go, as if it's pre-ordained.

and it becomes a waste of a discussion because nobody can adequately prove something isn't going to happen, nor does anybody want to be the person that said "this won't happen" only to see it happen, so deference is given towards the doomers who basically write the next five years of history and anybody who throws cold water on it is told they're in denial.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:38 (two weeks ago)

So he's going to tell Republicans they can't be a part of Congress anymore? If there's no election, there's no Congress

He could dissolve Congress! He totally could! The Supreme Court would say, "You go for it, God-Emperor!" And all the Senators and Representatives would just make Droopy Dog faces and go home to their states and say, "There was nothing we could do, he's so popular and powerful and handsome."

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:40 (two weeks ago)

I think Bouie's posts are correct on the facts, and also important because one of the best ways of resisting Trump's assorted illegal actions and impulses is to call them out as illegal and keep saying they're illegal. People are like, "Stop saying he can't do that, he's already doing it," but that's a mistake — even and especially when he IS doing it, you have to keep saying he can't, keep up any kind of pressure in the streets, in the courts. YES he's trying to do illegal things, YES he will probably try to do illegal things around the elections, and he will have to be fought over and over by people saying, "You can't do this, we're not going to let you."

A lot of his biggest wins in the past year have come from people just folding, acceding to his demands even though they don't have to, because they're afraid or because the fight seems like too much work or just because they actually like what he's trying to do. But the people who fight have often been successful. Harvard is still holding him at bay, long after Columbia folded. Kilmar Abrego Garcia was actually brought back to the U.S. from El Salvador, and they're still trying to deport him, but he and his lawyers are still fighting and have been winning more than losing. So the doomsaying tendency to think "Nothing and no one can stop him" is objectively wrong — people have stopped him, over and over — and also fundamentally dispiriting.

I fully expect that we will have mostly free and fair elections in November, and that is because that's what we should all expect — to expect it is not to say that we won't have to fight for it, it's to say that we expect it of our government and we will fight for it.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:45 (two weeks ago)

Also the biggest attempted fuckery in the fall elections is already underway — it's the redistricting fights. Florida is planning its own redistricting still this spring, and that Supreme Court decision in the Louisiana case could make things much worse either this year or in '28, if they really let red states eliminate all their majority-minority districts.

The recent court decision affirming the new California map is a good thing, but one scenario I haven't seen anyone write about still worries me. If SCOTUS goes all the way to eliminating the Voting Rights Act's protections, a corollary of it could be to both affirm the Texas map (which erodes majority-minority districts) and strike down the California map (which respects them). I don't know that there's time for all of that to play out this year, unless SCOTUS rushes out some decisions pronto. But even if the Dems take the House this year, all of this could be back in play in '28.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:51 (two weeks ago)

xp “I’m sure they are already gaming all of this out to figure out the optimal strategy.”

ha i’m pretty sure they have like, asked grok and picked their noses

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Thursday, 15 January 2026 17:56 (two weeks ago)

All they have to do is deploy militarized ICE goons to a few key cities and sow chaos during the elections to shift a few key races and tip the scales just enough.

So... which cities? Obviously you're talking about blue cities. So they're going to deploy the highly disciplined, very reliable and efficacious ICE stormtroopers to, I don't know, New York or Chicago on election day to tear-gas and bludgeon people lining up to vote for Democrats... while making sure that Republican voters get through and are properly counted? And the state election boards are going to certify those results with a shrug and a "Seems OK to us"? That's what you think is gonna happen?

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 15 January 2026 18:10 (two weeks ago)

it seems to me that the implication there is that doing this would prevent people from voting, no election boards involved

rob, Thursday, 15 January 2026 18:11 (two weeks ago)

Idk I'm pretty worried about states like WI that are usually blue by a tiny margin, and only because of the 1-2 cities outweighing the rest of the rural/suburban state.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 15 January 2026 18:12 (two weeks ago)

Neando and Alfred - I know you two well enough to know it's not your intent, but it does kind of feel like painting some very real fears as just "doomcasting" is minimizing justifiable concern.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 January 2026 18:13 (two weeks ago)

anyway, the problem with these convos isn't the suggestion that Trump might do something terrible, it's the weird certainty so many have in doomcasting the way it will go, as if it's pre-ordained.

and it becomes a waste of a discussion because nobody can adequately prove something isn't going to happen, nor does anybody want to be the person that said "this won't happen" only to see it happen, so deference is given towards the doomers who basically write the next five years of history and anybody who throws cold water on it is told they're in denial.

― Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, January 15, 2026 12:38 PM (thirty-three minutes ago)

this was mostly otm but I'm not seeing a lot of deference lol — not that I care tbc, I agree that this is pointless :)

rob, Thursday, 15 January 2026 18:17 (two weeks ago)

fwiw, Neando and others, that poster Vicky is also one of the loudest and most vehement “don’t vote” people i have ever met. she even put up signs back in 2020. she’s certifiable.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 15 January 2026 18:22 (two weeks ago)

i’d think sow chaos in the states but focus on eliminating the seating of non maga reps. who gets in the building, who has the provisional rep voting cards, who gets to claim speakership, and beyond that claiming executive authority by disallowing congress control at all and asserting emergency authority. the states can fuss as they may, how many troops and gangbangers do they have.

this is indeed doomerism, i am done supposing stupidly for now. tipsy 1000% tho, give in to nothing.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Thursday, 15 January 2026 18:27 (two weeks ago)

I definitely expect any GOP Senators who lose election will just show up in Washington next January hoping Vance will seat them under some arcane rule.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 January 2026 18:33 (two weeks ago)

tbh that leads me to the true & correct dialectical doomer position: the midterms don't actually matter

rob, Thursday, 15 January 2026 18:42 (two weeks ago)

Xxxxpost oh jeez. Thanks for the warning!!

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 January 2026 18:42 (two weeks ago)

xps - All these stomach-churning anxieties are a predictable outgrowth of the political actions taken in the past year by all three branches of the federal government. Because of how the system is set up, when all three branches disregard the constitution and their oaths in order to abuse their office, overturn checks and balances, and legitimize illegalities, the last resort against this is the will of the people. If the people think they've been robbed of their power to peacefully express their will through fair elections, they will react very negatively. Beyond that point any further predictions will fail in the resulting chaos.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 15 January 2026 18:48 (two weeks ago)

Exactly. By all means push back on people saying they are giving up or rolling over, but the doom is coming from a very real place.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Thursday, 15 January 2026 18:54 (two weeks ago)

I think doomers and nondoomers alike would get something out of this excellent essay by Nikhil Pal Singh: https://www.equator.org/articles/homeland-empire-trump-ICE

rob, Thursday, 15 January 2026 19:15 (two weeks ago)

what could possibly go wrong with appointing a brainworm ridden anti-science moron?

The Trump administration’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is funding a heavily flawed vaccine trial in west Africa that is being described as “another Tuskegee.”

The health newsletter Inside Medicine obtained the protocols for a study receiving $1.6 million to experiment on babies in Guinea-Bissau. The experiment is a “randomized controlled trial to assess the effects of neonatal Hepatitis B vaccination on early-life mortality, morbidity, and long-term developmental outcomes,” according to a Federal Register notice.

The comparisons to Tuskegee, an experiment in which the U.S. government let syphilis go unchecked in African Americans in Alabama from 1932 to 1972, came from an unnamed CDC official who spoke to Inside Medicine.

“This is another Tuskegee,” the official said. “We are allowing children, infants, to be exposed to Hepatitis B when we could prevent it, and then follow them for five years to see what happens. That’s not long enough to see the long-term benefits, but might be long enough to find some non-specific effects.”

The experiment had raised ethical concerns at the time the funding grant was announced in December, with Professor Martin McKee of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine telling The Guardian that it “has set alarm bells ringing in the global health community.” The World Health Organization has recommended the hepatitis B vaccination at birth since 2009.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 January 2026 19:40 (two weeks ago)

I liked it better when all these people were just grifting.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 January 2026 19:41 (two weeks ago)

is there doomer grift? seems like there should be

a (waterface), Thursday, 15 January 2026 19:42 (two weeks ago)

i guess that's basically a cult

a (waterface), Thursday, 15 January 2026 19:42 (two weeks ago)

btw, I didn't actually realize until just now that the reason Bouie and others are relitigating the argument is that Trump said it out loud again:

In a 30-minute interview with the outlet, Trump said he had accomplished so much in office that “when you think of it, we shouldn't even have an election” in 2026.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 January 2026 19:51 (two weeks ago)

many of the places where his fascist thugs have been deployed have turned against Trump and republicans more strongly

Hence the strategic deployment in already blue locations. How many votes do Republicans even _have_ in Portland, Chicago, Minneapolis, in order to lose them?

I mean, when we say "only in blue cities," that's redundant because cities are blue.

The red nation regards blue states as not real America and so disregards them. And within their states they repeat the pattern in microcosm - look at what Missouri thinks of St. Louis or what Texas thinks of Austin.

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 January 2026 19:53 (two weeks ago)

That Equator essay is good, yeah. And resists doomerism.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 15 January 2026 20:08 (two weeks ago)

yeah to be sincere for a post, if "doomerism" means expecting Trump to do evil things and succeed handily, then I am against it. I have no problem with people making dire predictions of actions that trump will take — it seems eminently reasonable to anticipate some or even extensive antidemocratic action around the midterms, legal and illegal — but as you and Aimless said, and that essay concludes with, resistance can/should/will happen as well.

All the videos I'm seeing out of MN are a mix of shockingly evil (does Singh call these efforts "ethnic cleansing" or did I read that elsewhere? it's correct anyway) and super inspiring: lots of people being like "I have never even considered protesting before this"; escalation means escalating this sentiment as well, people will be radicalized as their way of life is put under assault.

rob, Thursday, 15 January 2026 20:22 (two weeks ago)

Right. It's not doomerist to suggest that Trump wants to be an all-powerful dictator of a white supremacist state. That's been clear from the start. It IS doomerist to say efforts large and small to counter him will always fail. There are a lot of us — however you want to define that "us," but I mean people completely opposed to the entire MAGA project. And this is a big-ass country.

Things can definitely get worse, and probably will in lots of ways. Including at state levels, which for red states are all taking their own brisk steps toward authoritarianism with or without Trump. But if you don't believe that they can also at some point get better, then you're just surrendering territory that you don't have to.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 15 January 2026 20:29 (two weeks ago)

I might be naive but I also think that as Trump continues to physically & mentally deteriorate, there may be a tipping point where no one listens to him anymore, or jumps at his beck & call... like the 'have you no decency' moment with McCarthy. The loyalty he currently commands is not cast in stone

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 January 2026 20:35 (two weeks ago)

Right. It's not doomerist to suggest that Trump wants to be an all-powerful dictator of a white supremacist state. That's been clear from the start. It IS doomerist to say efforts large and small to counter him will always fail. There are a lot of us — however you want to define that "us," but I mean people completely opposed to the entire MAGA project. And this is a big-ass country.

Things can definitely get worse, and probably will in lots of ways. Including at state levels, which for red states are all taking their own brisk steps toward authoritarianism with or without Trump. But if you don't believe that they can also at some point get better, then you're just surrendering territory that you don't have to.

This regime will certainly burn itself out but the question is how much damage will be done before that happens. They are not creating a 1,000 year reich or something — not with a slim and aging majority. But they can do a lot of damage between now and 2028.

treeship., Thursday, 15 January 2026 20:41 (two weeks ago)

Actually not even majority. Aging 35%.

He lost the zoomer support he won in 2024 btw. Latest poll says gen z is +20 dem leaning.

treeship., Thursday, 15 January 2026 20:42 (two weeks ago)

ya his approval among those folks went from +4 to like -50 in less than a year. given that he's mostly just done the shit he said he was gonna do you've got to wonder what sort of information environment we've been throwing our kids into.

frogbs, Thursday, 15 January 2026 20:46 (two weeks ago)

the Sinema lawsuit is pretty lol

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 January 2026 20:46 (two weeks ago)

Don't just read the article. Read the complaint! https://t.co/WtocrsTLVv pic.twitter.com/iNbK1g6e1i

— bryan metzger (@metzgov) January 15, 2026

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 January 2026 20:51 (two weeks ago)

Sinema told her security guard to bring molly with him and that she'd guide him through it. Now his ex-wife is suing her. pic.twitter.com/FHNzE7PGS0

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) January 15, 2026

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 January 2026 20:53 (two weeks ago)

man, she must be fun at parties

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2026 20:57 (two weeks ago)

did she ever bring molly and coke on board Joe Manchin's boat

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 January 2026 20:57 (two weeks ago)

https://upolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Kyrsten_SInema.jpg

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 15 January 2026 21:00 (two weeks ago)

some good thoughts

https://bsky.app/profile/bdproctor.bsky.social/post/3mcify4c7ms2w

a (waterface), Thursday, 15 January 2026 21:00 (two weeks ago)

xpost Impressive doing that while balancing a book on her head

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 15 January 2026 21:01 (two weeks ago)

haha i first thought it was something shopped on there as a joke I didn't get

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 15 January 2026 21:03 (two weeks ago)

Why am I not surprised in the least

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 15 January 2026 21:09 (two weeks ago)

CNN legal analyst outright blaming all of the escalation last night on protesters. fucking shitbags.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 January 2026 21:14 (two weeks ago)

Many xposts, I apologize but I don’t think I was clear what I meant earlier about sowing chaos in cities during the elections. Of course what he is doing is turning people in the cities against him even more. But what I meant was sowing chaos in a way that makes it impossible for some people to vote or even feel safe going outside. That’s what I meant by tipping the scales in certain targeted races.

epistantophus, Thursday, 15 January 2026 22:15 (two weeks ago)

some good thoughts

https://bsky.app/profile/bdproctor.bsky.social/post/3mcify4c7ms2w🕸

“post limited to those signed in to bluesky”

please stop posting this shit!! has happened way too often recently! not all of us want to be on yet another social network!

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 15 January 2026 22:23 (two weeks ago)

Right i do not see what is stopping ice from harassing people at the polls in blue districts.

treeship., Thursday, 15 January 2026 22:26 (two weeks ago)

With the fig leaf of “preventing ‘illegals’ from voting”, as if that were a thing that happens, but I’m sure the SC would back him up on that if it came down to it.

epistantophus, Thursday, 15 January 2026 22:31 (two weeks ago)

Treeship > dunno if it's any comfort that there are ~110,000 precincts vs. ~20,000 ICE agents (who work in groups and certainly not for 12 hours in a row).

Plus millions vote at a time/place other than "the polls" on election day.

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 January 2026 22:37 (two weeks ago)

Trump's very blatant crusade against mail in voting in 2020 sure didn't seem to work, dare I say the harder you try to supress the vote the more you convince some people why they should in the first place

frogbs, Thursday, 15 January 2026 22:38 (two weeks ago)

I mean ICE could definitely put a lot of agents around polling places in specific places. High-immigrant populations that tend to vote Democratic, that wouldn't be that hard to map. I can envision some legal battles around this kind of stuff leading up to the election. I still think that level of chicanery is only marginally effective. Not that it couldn't make a difference in some races. But it's a long way from, like, canceling the election, which would be much much harder.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 15 January 2026 22:43 (two weeks ago)

the threat or insinuation of violence/unrest at the polls is itself enough to meaningful suppress turnout

budo jeru, Thursday, 15 January 2026 22:57 (two weeks ago)

Not necessarily. When the racist honky POS sheriff in the rural county where I lived in 2016 intimidated and harassed members of the Hmong community there, they stationed armed Hmong dudes outside every polling station. They didn’t have any trouble.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 15 January 2026 22:59 (two weeks ago)

the threat or insinuation of violence/unrest at the polls is itself enough to meaningful suppress turnout

Got historical data to back that up? Feel like short of 1940s Jim Crow-level violence, which I will happily lay down a marker right now is not going to happen, the opposite is true.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 15 January 2026 23:00 (two weeks ago)

Why are you sure that will not happen?

treeship., Thursday, 15 January 2026 23:01 (two weeks ago)

Why are we still on hour 6 of this thought exercise when there's shit happening right now to talk about

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 January 2026 23:02 (two weeks ago)

Why are you sure that will not happen?

Go ahead and tell yourself torch-wielding lynch mobs are gonna show up at urban polling places in 2026, if that gives your life meaning.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 15 January 2026 23:03 (two weeks ago)

Minneapolis is occupied by thousands of goons who are randomly detaining people and beating the shit out of them. They killed a woman and the president said he would protect the killer.

treeship., Thursday, 15 January 2026 23:04 (two weeks ago)

I don’t have a real schema for what *this* is. It’s very different from anything I’ve seen in my lifetime.

treeship., Thursday, 15 January 2026 23:04 (two weeks ago)

And thousands of citizens are protesting, harassing recording and obstructing them

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 January 2026 23:05 (two weeks ago)

But xpost agree on that last

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 January 2026 23:06 (two weeks ago)

Yeah i am not saying trump will prevail in voter suppression. But they are going to try it

treeship., Thursday, 15 January 2026 23:07 (two weeks ago)

Using brutal and murderous tactics

treeship., Thursday, 15 January 2026 23:08 (two weeks ago)

They are going to try everything they can think of — challenging mail-in ballots, endless ID checks, moving polling places — and probably some stuff they haven't even thought of yet. And yes that could include violence but that's pretty tricky really. Most places have early voting now, and Democrats are more likely than Republicans to vote early. Generating enough violence to disrupt two weeks of voting even just in limited places seems like a tall order. Especially since it would be utterly transparent what they were doing.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 15 January 2026 23:31 (two weeks ago)

man they couldn’t stop a crushing victory for Dems in Virginia. Instead human jowl JD Vance said something like “well it’s a blue state whaddya expect” which is “Boston is not a big college town” level of cope considering everyone thought Youngkin winning four years ago was going to herald some new era.

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 15 January 2026 23:43 (two weeks ago)

look! a spine spotting

Senate Republicans are vowing to block any effort by President Trump to seize Greenland by military force, as Trump officials on Wednesday refused to back off their demands to control the island during a meeting with top diplomats at the White House.

Republican senators are flummoxed by Trump’s insistence that he’s willing to use military force to seize control of Greenland from Denmark, something they fear will destroy the NATO alliance and give Russia a bigger advantage in its war against Ukraine.Senate Republicans are vowing to block any effort by President Trump to seize Greenland by military force, as Trump officials on Wednesday refused to back off their demands to control the island during a meeting with top diplomats at the White House.

Republican senators are flummoxed by Trump’s insistence that he’s willing to use military force to seize control of Greenland from Denmark, something they fear will destroy the NATO alliance and give Russia a bigger advantage in its war against Ukraine.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 January 2026 23:51 (two weeks ago)

(sorry for the double sentence^^^)

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 January 2026 23:55 (two weeks ago)

look, a shiny object!

budo jeru, Thursday, 15 January 2026 23:56 (two weeks ago)

They are flummoxed that this crazy person they’ve had to work under for ten years is doing another crazy thing.

treeship., Friday, 16 January 2026 00:01 (two weeks ago)

well it's a slight relief.. a pretty big bipartisan delegation is flying to Copenhagen tomorrow to reassure the Danes, and they're introducing legislation to block any use of funds to occupy Greenland, also cutting off the State Dept

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 January 2026 00:04 (two weeks ago)

why are they doing more about Greenland than Minnesota?

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 16 January 2026 00:05 (two weeks ago)

great question

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 January 2026 00:07 (two weeks ago)

They claim they ran over 1000 simulations, and something straight out of "The Alcoholic Divorced Dad Gourmet" was what they went with.

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mcfyvxmpgu2g

Brooke Rollins: "We've run over 1,000 simulations. It can cost around $3 a meal for a piece of chicken, a piece of broccoli, corn tortilla, and one other thing. So there is a way to do this that actually will save the average American consumer money."

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 January 2026 00:34 (two weeks ago)

ha, I saw that... the 'one other thing' has been a big source of online mirth

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 January 2026 00:41 (two weeks ago)

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:y6emq223yyakhigvzlo6hkdi/bafkreigly7ndlgojahpwnog4wtvjtbw2xuxfupllkcxvsgyh3weliu3dfe@jpeg

Meanwhile our president eats 1 1/2 days worth of McDonalds for every meal.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 January 2026 00:47 (two weeks ago)

Hope so!

henry s, Friday, 16 January 2026 00:52 (two weeks ago)

I can easily envision a plate upon which sit a 'piece' of chicken, a 'piece' of broccoli, a single corn tortilla, and - oh, let's say one olive. I can equally envision eating ALL THAT GLORIOUS FOOD and rising from the table f*cking starving to death.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 January 2026 01:19 (two weeks ago)

Also they ran 1,000 scenarios and that was the best. I want to know the discards.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 16 January 2026 01:23 (two weeks ago)

2 Life Savers, pond water, Slim Jim and one more thing

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 16 January 2026 01:24 (two weeks ago)

So there is a way to do this that actually will save the average American consumer money

but it involves roadkill

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 January 2026 01:32 (two weeks ago)

the severed head of a beached whale will feed a family of four for several days, when combined with a dozen corn tortillas

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 January 2026 01:36 (two weeks ago)

remember when Michelle Obama tried to start an organic garden at the white house? but that was socialism i guess. or liberal elitism maybe

budo jeru, Friday, 16 January 2026 01:39 (two weeks ago)

ugh, sorry, i'll show myself out

When you have the urge to point out how the Trump administration/GOP is being hypocritical - post it here instead

budo jeru, Friday, 16 January 2026 01:43 (two weeks ago)

i guess the right is okay with eating bugs now

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 16 January 2026 01:53 (two weeks ago)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2026/01/15/ice-detention-death-homicide/

treeship., Friday, 16 January 2026 02:02 (two weeks ago)

Xpost That pushes the cost to $4 sorry

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 January 2026 02:03 (two weeks ago)

*camera pans over the now-asphalt-covered “rose garden” to a crack in the pavement — a teeny leaf of organic arugula is pushing into the light. amid the sound of groaning and roaring diesel engines a construction workboot kicks and destroys it.*

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Friday, 16 January 2026 02:03 (two weeks ago)

lmao

budo jeru, Friday, 16 January 2026 02:23 (two weeks ago)

a piece of chicken, a piece of broccoli, corn tortilla, and one other thing.

Baby, you got a stew goin’!

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 16 January 2026 02:28 (two weeks ago)

photos from minneapolis

mookieproof, Friday, 16 January 2026 02:33 (two weeks ago)

this is one of them

https://i.postimg.cc/ZnYPzRjB/bafkreiasvlhobyje6wicrllynwigge5dbd4pylrqp627g4grdgnba4vss4.jpg

mookieproof, Friday, 16 January 2026 02:37 (two weeks ago)

Several wild things about ICE on Thursday's Democracy Now---you prob know about the journalist who got herself hired without really going undercover, but maybe haven't heard these others--several media options: https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2026/1/14 (also mentions again that memo about all the ways to get yourself diagnosed as a terrorist)

dow, Friday, 16 January 2026 04:18 (two weeks ago)

Legacy of Weiss

CBS News report on ICE officer’s injuries drew ‘huge internal concern’ | CBS | The Guardian https://share.google/Lr5DBilwkBKqgM0TZ

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 January 2026 05:24 (two weeks ago)

Keystone Kash strikes again

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/minneapolis-fbi-raid-wrong-home/

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 January 2026 05:26 (two weeks ago)

was just out at a bar and people were talking about this shit openly. particularly older folks who were just pissed. lotta "we don't do that kind of thing here" and "they should be ashamed of themselves". even some who I know don't really follow politics at all. same at work. it seems to be breaking the partisan divide. maybe because I'm from a neighboring state but this really is not playing well here at all.

frogbs, Friday, 16 January 2026 05:29 (two weeks ago)

ya his approval among those folks went from +4 to like -50 in less than a year. given that he's mostly just done the shit he said he was gonna do you've got to wonder what sort of information environment we've been throwing our kids into.
this is one of them

🖼

They have their guns out and she is in scrubs. Ridiculous.

treeship., Friday, 16 January 2026 11:17 (two weeks ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/16/keith-porter-jr-ice-killing

Story about an off-duty ICE thug killing someone on New Year's Eve. Mostly posting it for the second sentence in this paragraph, which should be standard for all reporting:

Activists, local politicians and some celebrities have rallied around Porter’s killing, with many of them voicing increasing concerns about ICE’s aggressive raids and violent tactics in cities across the country. And the DHS’s track record of making false and distorted claims about people they have accused of crimes and violence has fueled concerns that the government cannot be trusted to provide a truthful account of Porter’s death.

(there are 6 links in that sentence if you click through). Apart from signalling complicity with the regime, what's so galling about reporters reflexively quoting DHS about anything is it suggests they don't read their own journalism, or don't learn anything from it.

rob, Friday, 16 January 2026 14:10 (two weeks ago)

^^^^

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 16 January 2026 15:25 (two weeks ago)

Since about March or so, there have been a group of folks protesting at an intersection at a public park about a mile from where I work. They gather every Friday morning to stand on the corners, holding signs and upside flags, etc. The numbers have wavered, usually peaking around No Kings stuff and bigger events. In the past few weeks things had kinda dwindled down to just 2-5 hardcores, depending on the week. This morning there was about 15-20 out there, in the middle of a pretty hefty snow squall.

I mean, yeah, 15-20 people, but heartening to see an uptick after this week's fuckery, even in the middle of wicked snowstorm at 7 am.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 January 2026 15:28 (two weeks ago)

the 'internal bleeding' reporting was abysmal journalism. of course, that was by intent in many cases as many of the publications are owned by Trump-sympathizers. Bari Weiss and her stooges seemed to be the reason CBS were so deferential to DHS based on leaks from CBS employees...which should shock nobody

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 January 2026 15:28 (two weeks ago)

A majority of Americans believe President Donald Trump’s first year back in the White House has been a “failure” and that he has spent too much of it focusing on the wrong priorities, according to a new poll.

The latest SSRS survey for CNN makes for bleak reading for the president at the outset of a midterm election year, with 58 percent of respondents saying they consider his record back in power unsatisfactory so far.

The economy remains the primary concern for many, with 55 percent saying they believe Trump’s policies have made matters worse, compared to 32 percent arguing they had made an improvement, a damning verdict on his controversial reciprocal tariffs policy, through which he is attempting to reset the terms of trade with other nations.

A huge 64 percent said he has not done enough to bring down the cost of living, a key reason many people voted for him in November 2024, with even 42 percent of Republicans saying more needs to be done to lower the price of groceries and everyday goods.

Other areas in which Trump was felt to have made things worse included his attempts to play peacemaker on the world stage (47 percent disapproved), bolstering law and order in American cities (42 percent), stopping the weaponization of the Department of Justice (41 percent), and restoring free speech (41 percent).

With the public’s preference for tackling the economy so clearly emphasized, it was perhaps inevitable that a large proportion of respondents said that Trump was on the wrong track. Just 36 percent said he was pursuing the right issues, down from 45 percent a year ago.

A majority also felt he had overstepped the mark in a number of areas, with 62 percent taking exception to him attempting to change the cultural makeup of supposedly liberal institutions like the Kennedy Center and the Smithsonian, 58 percent saying he had abused the power of the executive, and 57 percent said he had cut too many government programs – a rebuke to DOGE’s hacking and slashing at the federal bureaucracy.

The poll also revealed a shift in perceptions regarding the president as a person, with just one in three telling SSRS/CNN they believed Trump cares about people like them, down from 40 percent in March.

Similarly, only 37 percent of those surveyed said they see him as putting the country above his own personal gain and only 32 percent saying they believe he understands the problems average Americans face – after a year he spent redecorating the Oval Office in gold, constructing a lavish ballroom and chasing peace prizes.

Fewer than half felt the 79-year-old has the stamina and sharpness to serve effectively, with concerns about his health regularly raised in the media, and just 35 percent saying they were proud to have him as president.

The poll concluded that Trump’s overall job approval was at 39 percent, with support tumbling among independents (29 percent) and in two key demographics, people aged under 35s and Latinos, who were both 41 percent in favor at the start of last year but are now at just 30 percent.

Trump still has the support of almost nine Republicans in 10, according to CNN, but the failure to appeal to those outside of his existing coalition and the loss of support from groups that helped sweep him to victory against Kamala Harris will be a real concern to the president and his team.

Earlier this week, another poll from SSRS for CNN asked Americans how they felt about ICE and the president’s crackdown on undocumented migrants in general following the killing of Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old mother-of-three, in a confrontation with immigration agents in Minneapolis on January 7.

More than half of people said they believed the agents were making cities less safe and that the fatal shooting of Good by ICE officer Jonathan Ross had been an inappropriate use of force and indicative of wider problems with how the agency conducts itself.

Perhaps most noteworthy for Trump as he looks ahead to the midterms was the finding that 52 percent of people now consider his deportation push as having gone too far, up from 45 percent last February.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 January 2026 17:26 (two weeks ago)

just 35 percent saying they were proud to have him as president

there's that number again... the unflappable loyalists

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 January 2026 17:35 (two weeks ago)

he's now threatening to raise tariffs on any country that doesn't agree with him stealing Greenland

A sales tax on American importers & citizens... great strategy bro, since literally no country agrees with this.. not even your own

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 January 2026 18:03 (two weeks ago)

go ahead dude make things more expensive for us

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 16 January 2026 18:05 (two weeks ago)

This is Trump using The Secret.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 16 January 2026 18:11 (two weeks ago)

His voters will gladly eat their own shit

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 January 2026 18:15 (two weeks ago)

facts

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 January 2026 18:30 (two weeks ago)

"thank you sir, may I eat some more?"

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 January 2026 18:31 (two weeks ago)

i saw that they tried to roll out "The Great Healthcare Plan" yesterday. was The Super-duper Fantastic Healthcare Plan taken?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 January 2026 18:37 (two weeks ago)

the "Be Happy You're Getting This at All" health plan is scheduled for August

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 January 2026 18:40 (two weeks ago)

sorry, that was snarky. I"m in line to acquire my piece of broccoli and chicken and I'm a little cranky

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 January 2026 18:41 (two weeks ago)

plz forgive me overlords

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 January 2026 18:41 (two weeks ago)

the "Be Happy You're Getting This at All" health plan is scheduled for August

I'm not sure there is anything at all... some vague murmurs about drug prices and of course 'giving money directly to citizens to buy insurance', but no money for any of it.. it's the 'concept of a plan', very light on details

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 January 2026 18:44 (two weeks ago)

i hear next week is Health Care Week

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 January 2026 18:47 (two weeks ago)

You'll be able so sign up for it right after we get the DOGE checks or the tariff refund checks, or those "self-deporting" folks get their money, whichever comes first.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 January 2026 18:48 (two weeks ago)

All food in country irradiated, population forced to eat melted AOL CD-ROMs with spices added

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 January 2026 18:51 (two weeks ago)

That's on the upside-down food pyramid next to bugs trapped in lamps

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 16 January 2026 18:55 (two weeks ago)

*ahem* we call those spices now

epistantophus, Friday, 16 January 2026 18:59 (two weeks ago)

careful there might be wars to control these spices

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 January 2026 19:05 (two weeks ago)

The "other thing" in the food recommendations is people.

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 16 January 2026 19:24 (two weeks ago)

We found a cookbook called "To Serve Man." We ate it. It was tasty.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 16 January 2026 19:25 (two weeks ago)

The latest SSRS survey for CNN makes for bleak reading for the president at the outset of a midterm election year

None of his advisors or aides would dare to show this survey to Trump. I just hope every Republican in Congress sees it and enough of them begin to fear the own voters more than they fear Trump, so that perhaps those cowards will read the writing on the wall and start voting to rein in the mad king.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 January 2026 19:32 (two weeks ago)

None of his advisors or aides would dare to show this survey to Trump

no, they have something called 'Internal White House Polling'.. the only polling that's not fake, and it shows his approval at 64% (I'm not kidding about this)

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 January 2026 19:50 (two weeks ago)

That's another reason why I'm not convinced about the whole "he's gonna cancel the elections! (which he totally can do!)" thing. Trump believes he is popular — beloved, even. Canceling elections would pop his whole Norman Vincent Peale positive-thinking balloon. Psychologically, there's no way he admits even the risk of failure, ever.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 16 January 2026 19:57 (two weeks ago)

it is pretty funny when he shows up at sporting events or whatnot, and there's just a chorus of deafening booing... he clearly hears something different

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 January 2026 20:01 (two weeks ago)

boo-urns

epistantophus, Friday, 16 January 2026 20:05 (two weeks ago)

Didn't he mention how they needed to win the midterms or he'd be impeached? Seems like there's a little awareness of how bad it's looking.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 16 January 2026 20:05 (two weeks ago)

yeah he gave a pep talk to GOP reps, telling them to run on his amazingly popular policies if they want to win

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 January 2026 20:13 (two weeks ago)

popular policies like blood, death, dashing your babies’ skulls against the rocks

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 16 January 2026 20:29 (two weeks ago)

might bring out the metal heads

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 16 January 2026 20:54 (two weeks ago)

man true metalheads were just dorks with cloaks, armor, and 12-sided die, we faint at blood

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 January 2026 21:06 (two weeks ago)

fake blood is fine though

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 January 2026 21:11 (two weeks ago)

Good stuff:

https://archive.ph/2026.01.16-211234/https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/i-spent-the-week-in-minnesota-the-only-thing-i-m-sure-of-now-is/

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 January 2026 21:38 (two weeks ago)

404 not found

BrianB, Friday, 16 January 2026 21:46 (two weeks ago)

This is the shit that Donald advisers are showing him

https://www.instagram.com/p/DTkwJDNDGmj/

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 January 2026 21:57 (two weeks ago)

Hm. Looks like the story is down.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 January 2026 21:58 (two weeks ago)

this should work: https://archive.ph/ZX2Et

bulb after bulb, Friday, 16 January 2026 22:00 (two weeks ago)

(and thank you)

bulb after bulb, Friday, 16 January 2026 22:01 (two weeks ago)

Sideeyeing all the people I know who are (rightfully) calling out DHS for blaming protesters for ICE's violence while simultaneously continuing to cheerlead Bibi's genocide.

Maybe a good opportunity for some people to take internal stock.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 January 2026 22:05 (two weeks ago)

TARIFF KING

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mckgxay2to2h

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 January 2026 22:40 (two weeks ago)

I AM THE TARIFF KING & I CAN DO ANYTHING

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 January 2026 22:43 (two weeks ago)

Booker has come out against any further funding for ICE.

Waiting on Schumer to even acknowledge the situation.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 16 January 2026 22:58 (two weeks ago)

don't they already have tens of billions? from the biggly bogus bill?

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 January 2026 23:05 (two weeks ago)

La Resistance

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 January 2026 23:13 (two weeks ago)

TARIFF KING

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mckgxay2to2h🕸

i accidentally listened to that and boy dues he sound like shit

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 16 January 2026 23:16 (two weeks ago)

a discordant note has been struck

In 2021, a convicted fraudster named Adriana Camberos was freed from prison when President Trump commuted her sentence.

Rather than taking advantage of that second chance, prosecutors said, Ms. Camberos returned to crime. She and her brother were convicted in 2024 in an unrelated fraud.

This week, Mr. Trump pardoned both siblings, marking the second time Mr. Trump had opened the prison gates for Ms. Camberos.

Their pardons were among a handful of clemency grants quietly issued by Mr. Trump this week.

Among the other lucky recipients: a man whose daughter had given millions to a Trump-backed super PAC, a former governor of Puerto Rico and a former F.B.I. agent — all of whom had pleaded guilty in a political corruption case.

The pardons, most of which have not been previously reported, were supported by people with close ties to Mr. Trump’s orbit, including lawyers who had worked for him.

They continue a trend in which Mr. Trump has used the unfettered presidential clemency power to reward allies and those who have paid his associates or donated to his political operation. The approach stands in contrast to Justice Department guidelines that prioritize the clemency applications of people who have completed their prison sentences or demonstrated remorse and a lower likelihood of recidivism.

The pardons, several of which forgave white-collar crimes and frauds by affluent perpetrators, strike a discordant note with the Trump administration’s announcement that it was suspending federal funding for programs intended to serve poor people in Minnesota in order to root out fraud.

https://archive.is/KJdk6

mookieproof, Friday, 16 January 2026 23:20 (two weeks ago)

Gosh it sure don't add up.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 16 January 2026 23:22 (two weeks ago)

maybe he’ll leave Minnesota alone if they give him a peace prize

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 16 January 2026 23:44 (two weeks ago)

Interactive Map of ICE Contractors: https://readsludge.com/2026/01/16/the-companies-behind-ice/

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 January 2026 23:46 (two weeks ago)

maybe he’ll leave Minnesota alone if they give him a peace prize

GoFundMe for a bribe big enough to pardon Minnesota

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 16 January 2026 23:48 (two weeks ago)

Sorry I meant “donation”

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 16 January 2026 23:49 (two weeks ago)

Walz and Frey subpoenaed by the DOJ

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 17 January 2026 00:06 (two weeks ago)

if only antonin scalia were still around to explain how this is what the Founders intended

mookieproof, Saturday, 17 January 2026 00:11 (two weeks ago)

Walz and Frey should ignore the subpoena request. the government isn’t legitimate. fuck em

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Saturday, 17 January 2026 00:18 (two weeks ago)

Fuck ‘em seconded

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 17 January 2026 00:44 (two weeks ago)

maybe he’ll leave Minnesota alone if they give him a peace prize

― Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Friday, January 16, 2026 5:44 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

hopefully he'll settle for a Winter Carnival medallion

budo jeru, Saturday, 17 January 2026 01:10 (two weeks ago)

lol at these subpoenas. if they're going to arrest them under bullshit pretense they are going to do it whether or regardless if they show up or not. but if they do show up, they better come armed with tons of mocking zings, because if they take the proceedings seriously they have already lost.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 January 2026 01:41 (two weeks ago)

DOJ subpoenas are treated seriously by federal judges, who will enforce them unless they're convinced by facts and argument that the investigation they're pursuant to is based in political harrassment rather than legitimate evidence of illegal activity. iow, challenge them in court, and let the court tell them it's OK to flip them off.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 17 January 2026 01:50 (two weeks ago)

why would any judge take the Trump DOJ seriously? honestly this is why i could never be in the field of law, all of this fealty to absolutely bullshit procedures would drive me insane.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Saturday, 17 January 2026 02:32 (two weeks ago)

quite a few federal judges have expressed their disbelief of and disdain for the Trump DOJ in their opinions in the past half year or thereabouts. in accord with their training, they do the flipping off with elegant restraint, but in the legal world they amount to a beat down

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 17 January 2026 02:44 (two weeks ago)

Subpoenas have been fairly frequently defied in the last decade when it comes to Congress, idk

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 January 2026 02:51 (two weeks ago)

In this case, though...nothing is going to stick. Nobody is going to get anybody to indict

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 January 2026 02:53 (two weeks ago)

BREAKING: Judge enters TRO blocking feds from interfering with or arresting peaceful protesters in Minnesota. Judge Kate Menendez, Biden appointee.

You will recall that CNN's expert legal analysis stated Menendez would not rule in Minnesota's favor.

Obviously there are easy ways for DOJ to skirt this ruling and I'm sure a higher court will reverse it but nonetheless it's important to make the DOJ have to do this shit and dare them to take the mask all the way off

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 January 2026 02:57 (two weeks ago)

knees to the head, chokeholds and other things:
https://www.democracynow.org/2026/1/16/ice_tactics

dow, Saturday, 17 January 2026 03:08 (two weeks ago)

Article also came out saying internally Trump administration is concerned about the optics of their raids.

Every time this happens, they just try to do their heinous shit less visibly and then ratchet the violence back up when observers get the drop on them.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 January 2026 03:10 (two weeks ago)

And of course you don't have to be a protester or pointing you camera at them or doing anything else pertaining to them---elsewhere, this family was reported to be coming home from a basketball game:

President Trump has threatened to invoke the Insurrection Act to send active-duty military personnel to Minnesota...Trump’s threat came as three children were hospitalized for tear gas inhalation, after federal agents surrounded a car carrying a family of eight Wednesday evening as they were attempting to drive to their home in north Minneapolis. Witnesses say the agents deployed concussion grenades and tear gas, with at least one device rolling under the family’s van, where it exploded, set off its air bags and began filling the vehicle with toxic smoke. Bystanders then rushed to help pull the family from the van as the children inside gasped for air. Destiny Jackson told TV station KMSP her 6-month-old infant stopped breathing and lost consciousness.

Destiny Jackson: “When we did finally get out of the car, I, of course — my baby was lifeless, so I did do the CPR and mouth-to-mouth. And there were people — there was multiple people in the house who were pouring milk all over my other kids’ face and trying to get the tear gas off of them.”


https://www.democracynow.org/2026/1/16/headlines

dow, Saturday, 17 January 2026 03:16 (two weeks ago)

To which DHS blamed it on agitators bringing their kids to protests on Twitter.

No Hell not enough etc

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 January 2026 03:22 (two weeks ago)

I just drove through a small town in the middle of a snow storm and there were several dozens normie looking protesters holding “Justice for Renee Good” signs.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Saturday, 17 January 2026 16:02 (two weeks ago)

DHS later quietly deleted post blaming family coming home from a basketball game ; but no apology of course.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 17 January 2026 17:12 (two weeks ago)

NY Times discusses right wingers criticizing “An AWFUL (Affluent White Female Urban Liberal) is dead after running her car into an ICE agent who opened fire on her,” the conservative commentator Erik Erickson posted on social media. “Progressive whites are turning violent. ICE agents have the right to defend themselves.”
….

But for the broader core of Mr. Trump’s followers, the description of white, urban women as violent radicals obstructing mass deportations seems to reflect older anxieties around race, gender and immigration among the white, non-college educated men who make up the core of Mr. Trump’s movement and perceive their place in society slipping, said Dr. Shauna Shames, a political scientist at Rutgers and co-editor of the book “The Right Women: Republican Party Activists, Candidates, and Legislators.”

NY Times avoids use of word “sexist “ though .

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/17/us/politics/white-women-conservatives.html?unlocked_article_code=1.FFA.hjqQ.bYYVgPWENLm0&smid=nytcore-ios-share

curmudgeon, Saturday, 17 January 2026 17:17 (two weeks ago)

it annoys me how much effort these people seem to spend on "understanding" the "perceived" grievances of these fucking weirdos; if only they gave half that amount of energy to actually doing their jobs as journalists

budo jeru, Saturday, 17 January 2026 17:53 (two weeks ago)

why would any judge take the Trump DOJ seriously? honestly this is why i could never be in the field of law, all of this fealty to absolutely bullshit procedures would drive me insane.

100% ... and then they act like we are the irrational ones because we don't buy into their delusions

budo jeru, Saturday, 17 January 2026 17:55 (two weeks ago)

A homeless guy Jeanine Pirro charged with a felony for shining a laser pointer at Trump's helicopter was acquitted in 35 minutes.

Winkler, 33, was arrested in September when a U.S. Secret Service agent allegedly saw him shine the red beam at the low-flying helicopter shortly after it departed from the White House grounds. The felony charge for pointing a laser at an aircraft carries a maximum five-year prison sentence.

At the time, Pirro, a former Fox News personality, promised to prosecute Winkler “to the fullest extent of the law.”

After his trial wrapped earlier this week, the jury deliberated for just 35 minutes before finding Winkler not guilty, according to his public defenders, Alexis Gardner and Ubong Akpan.

Gardner and Akpan told HuffPost in a statement that the verdict exposed “a disturbing reality: In the most powerful city in the world, the federal government spent scarce resources to make a felon out of a homeless man with nothing but a cat toy keychain.”

I suspect a significant number of the jurors also wished the helicopter had crashed.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 17 January 2026 18:23 (two weeks ago)

dc statehood now

trm (tombotomod), Saturday, 17 January 2026 18:49 (two weeks ago)

YES PLEASE

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 17 January 2026 19:14 (two weeks ago)

Jeffries and Schumer and Third Way and Yglesias probably believe that even talking about DC statehood rather than high food prices is too radical and should not be done

curmudgeon, Saturday, 17 January 2026 19:41 (two weeks ago)

: Trump says he will impose a 10% tariff on on goods sent to the U.S. from Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, the UK, the Netherlands, and Finland on Feb. 1, rising to 25% on June 1, “until such time as a Deal is reached for the Complete and Total purchase of Greenland.”

curmudgeon, Saturday, 17 January 2026 21:50 (two weeks ago)

he also said if that doesn't work he'll take it by force anyway

Parallel Heinz (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 January 2026 21:58 (two weeks ago)

I *think* that even Trump can see that Greenland is an all-time terrible idea and will find a way to chicken out.

But I’ve been wrong before.

tobo73, Saturday, 17 January 2026 22:12 (two weeks ago)

budo jeru at 11:53 17 Jan 26

it annoys me how much effort these people seem to spend on "understanding" the "perceived" grievances of these fucking weirdos; if only they gave half that amount of energy to actually doing their jobs as journalists


this x1000000

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 January 2026 22:34 (two weeks ago)

I'm wondering - hoping - if Trump with this Greenland stuff has finally overstepped the mark. The Europeans telling him to fuck off and a significant minority of Republicans too might usher in his lame duck phase. Greenland will never happen so he's going to be humiliated at some point.

Zelda Zonk, Saturday, 17 January 2026 22:49 (two weeks ago)

All political careers end in failure and this one will be epic.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 17 January 2026 23:06 (two weeks ago)

if only they gave half that amount of energy to actually doing their jobs as journalists

Their job is propping up the fascist regime, and they are very effective at it.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Sunday, 18 January 2026 00:55 (one week ago)

xp I’ve resigned myself that he will die peacefully, unshaken in his belief he was the greatest president ever

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 18 January 2026 01:01 (one week ago)

Good article:
https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/renee-goods-murder-and-other-acts-of-terror/

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Sunday, 18 January 2026 16:59 (one week ago)

1500 Army troops on standby to deploy to Minnesota, which would be a blatantly illegal act

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 18 January 2026 17:04 (one week ago)

Robin D G Kelley also wrote an absolutely fantastic biog of Theolonious Monk, a must-read

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Sunday, 18 January 2026 17:08 (one week ago)

1500 Army troops ready to deploy to Minnesota, Minnesota National Guard on standby to protect protestors from Army-cosplay ICE, police on the sidelines, public in the middle. Sounds good.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 January 2026 17:22 (one week ago)

i expect boring is correct, admission of failure is not one of his talents and is likely against one of his core personal precepts.
an historical tactic to get him to fuck off is to give him something personally and make a big deal of it. like “the highest mountain in greenland is now named Mt Trump. here is a gold model of it for you. it is real gold.”

“AND we’re laying out plans for a network of 5 more US military bases on Greenland in the shape of a “T” to be the center of Trumplink Global Lethality Focus Center— everyone is talking about it!— and it will be a central point of contact for former NATO (now called Powerful Trump Allied Treaty Organization) forces to help Trump and USA DOMINATE the western hemisphere. we in the know call that the trumposphere. the leadership role comes with a gold sash. nobody else gets one.
oh and also without him we are nothing that is all.”
so you give him some wins basically. but greenland is still not usa.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Sunday, 18 January 2026 18:13 (one week ago)

https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/maryland-mom-ice-deportation-dulce-consuelo-diaz-morales-u-s-citizenship/

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 18 January 2026 18:36 (one week ago)

Just fyi the leader of the world bank, Ajay Banga, who was appointed by Biden, is a complete piece of shit. He’s joining this peace group thing that plans on running Gaza or whatever.

Heez, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 02:15 (one week ago)

Ruben Gallego uses the I-word on CNN; Anderson Cooper blinks rapidly and pretends to be shocked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgq_xgWCVx8

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 03:35 (one week ago)

Trump is not insane according to commonly held ideas of insanity such as schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, which confuses people. He is insane in the sense of being entirely disconnected from even a milligram of sympathy, empathy, or meaningful social connections to others as we who are humans understand them. That is also insanity. The fact that he is the most powerful individual in the world via the free choice of ~80 million voters is probably the gravest insanity in recorded history.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 04:14 (one week ago)

no he is crazy in the sense that the conclusions that he claims to reach are entirely unsupported by even the “facts” he himself presents. they are nonsensical. and also which “facts” themselves are entirely unsupported by easily available reporting. and video evidence. he is quite disconnected from both reason and reality. he is also an immoral ethical cesspool, but that’s another thing.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 04:23 (one week ago)

Well, I mean "sociopath" is a recognised mental disorder. Literal insanity would prevent him from holding any public office no matter how good his handlers were. Instead he's a narcissist sociopath with the accompanying distorted perspectives needed to sustain those abnormal worldviews.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 04:27 (one week ago)

*pleading voice* “but DOCTOR! there must be other words for it and better treatments! he is… he is not INSANE i tell you! he is MISUNDERSTOOD!”

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 04:32 (one week ago)

Trump thinks stealth bombers are actually invisible. He thinks when an immigrant applies for asylum it means a mental asylum. He thinks you can lower drug prices by 700%. He literally thought Abrego Garcia had "MS-13" tattooed on his knuckles. His handlers are manipulating him by showing him videos of things that happened years ago. He is granting full presidential pardons to people he's never heard of in his life. He's spending all day on his phone reposting AI slop. This is not a man with a functioning brain.

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 04:36 (one week ago)

oh he's also being administered cognitive tests regularly and getting MRIs and he has no idea why

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 05:12 (one week ago)

They should just leave him in the mri machine

Heez, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 05:13 (one week ago)

we don't even know if he's passing these exams! I mean he was officially listed as 6' 3" and 215 lbs and Dr. Oz says he has the highest testosterone ever recorded. we do know that he's said many times that they're very difficult even though the hardest thing you have to do is draw a clock face. oh and we also know he can barely stay awake when anyone else is talking.

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 05:22 (one week ago)

tbf some of the test is trickier than that... Kimmel took the test on his show and there was one part -- being asked to recall words brought up earlier -- that would totally have tripped me up.

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 05:38 (one week ago)

Trump thinks stealth bombers are actually invisible. He thinks when an immigrant applies for asylum it means a mental asylum. He thinks you can lower drug prices by 700%. He literally thought Abrego Garcia had "MS-13" tattooed on his knuckles. His handlers are manipulating him by showing him videos of things that happened years ago. He is granting full presidential pardons to people he's never heard of in his life. He's spending all day on his phone reposting AI slop. This is not a man with a functioning brain.

I don't think any of this is evidence of any kind of mental decline though

anvil, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 06:00 (one week ago)

we have like 11 years of evidence that he just doesn't care about details

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 06:05 (one week ago)

an historical tactic to get him to fuck off is to give him something personally and make a big deal of it. like “the highest mountain in greenland is now named Mt Trump. here is a gold model of it for you. it is real gold.”

I think this is partially correct but incomplete. This alone doesn't work. It's more complex than that. Machado gave him her peace prize. It didn't get her anything. Her value went down as a result of doing that. Doing this can be counter-productive if he senses weakness.

He can side with who he thinks is a winner (Mamdani, Putin) regardless of whether they give him anything at all. Narcissistic supply is of more value to him than awards. He got that prize from Machado and both Machado and the prize itself lost value for him as a consequence

anvil, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 06:08 (one week ago)

He wants them and he'll take them but being given a prize by a loser just isn't as good

anvil, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 06:09 (one week ago)

At some point, people will need to start weaponising their compassion and take the line that DJT is a victim of elder abuse, of the ‘wind him up and lookit him go!’ variety.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 07:33 (one week ago)

Potemkin village. Build him one. Make it tacky as hell, cover everything in thin spray paint gold, he doesn’t know the difference. Make him a rally auditorium and keep it stocked with 2000 of the worst people on earth who worship him. Make a separate instance of Truth and Twitter and keep it stocked with fake news items that will keep him happy. He can put his executive orders on that so he can feel like he’s working hard. Give him big prizes, and tell him that he ended another war because people are afraid of him. Redraw world maps and put new places on there that say United States, and tell him he did it

All of this costs like 90 million tops, and that’s mainly the fake rally auditorium and feeding and housing a couple thousand people

z_tbd, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 16:33 (one week ago)

Maybe this is on another thread, but have we talked about his insane "Board of Peace" on Gaza and other crises to be named later? Which looks like basically setting up his own private UN that he would continue to run even after he left office?

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/gaza-board-peace-trump-running-gaza-world-mafia-boss

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 16:49 (one week ago)

poor Tony Blair, hoodwinked again!

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 16:53 (one week ago)

Stephen Miller claiming local law enforcement told to stand down in MN, something that is not legally permissible and local law enforcement is saying "lol no you didn't"

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 16:57 (one week ago)

keep it stocked with fake news items that will keep him happy.

He has this already!

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 17:01 (one week ago)

Miller being a rich white dude clearly isn't conversant in what happens when you challenge the authority of cops

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 17:28 (one week ago)

the 'Board of Peace' is very exclusive, not for just ordinary diplomats... membership is not cheap but includes many perks & benefits not seen in other international bodies, including exclusive access to the President of the United States

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 18:07 (one week ago)

You can also buy a Piece of the Board for 400 Million!

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 18:12 (one week ago)

that Board of Peace headquarters, yesterday:

https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Legion-of-Doom-hq.jpg

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 18:12 (one week ago)

Judge Novak declines to refer Halligan for disciplinary action "in light of her inexperience" but warns that if she continues to call herself U.S. Attorney after this, he will initiate disciplinary proceedings.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 19:09 (one week ago)

how about disciplining them for basically shitting on you

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 19:12 (one week ago)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ice-agents-pull-guns-on-police-officers-of-color-and-demand-papers-mn-chief/

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 19:12 (one week ago)

“I don’t wanna abolish ICE because there are many good ICEers but yeah they had their weapons drawn on my black officers.” you should be fired. at best.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 21:05 (one week ago)

Lots of inconsistent voters-

While I get that its a Wall Street Journal poll, it forever remains crazy to me how a majority of voters can think the Republican party can handle the economy and other issues better than the Dems

New Wall Street Journal poll shows Trump's numbers are down but whichever registered voters they polled still think Republicans can handle certain matters better

The Journal’s poll was included in a story that ran on Friday titled “It’s Trump’s Economy, and Voters are Unhappy With It.” So voters, despite not loving how President Donald Trump is handling the economy, still believe his party is the better party to handle it. The poll found Trump’s approval rating was at 45% — down 1% from its last poll — and his disapproval rating was at 54%. ...The poll found Americans believe the GOP is the better-equipped part to handle border security by a whopping 28 point margin — 48% to 20%. Republicans had an 11 point advantage on immigration as well.

Those were the two dominant issues for Republicans — but respondents gave them the edge on a handful of other topics as well, including: the economy and inflation (both +6), tariffs (+2), foreign policy (+5) and the Russia-Ukraine War (+4). Democrats did have advantages on vaccine policy (+9) and healthcare (+15).

Still, on the generic congressional ballot, the Dems had a 47% to 43% edge on Republicans — despite the public siding with the GOP on many individual issues.

WSJ’s poll was based on 1,500 registered voters nationwide. Those respondents were contacted between January 8-13.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-poll-americans-trust-republicans-over-democrats-on-most-major-issues-in-congress/ar-AA1UsEaK

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 21:12 (one week ago)

republicans are fucking stupid, there is nothing crazy about it

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 21:18 (one week ago)

that poll infuriated me yesterday so much. aaand if it’s the same poll i saw there was no education q and no climate change q.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 21:32 (one week ago)

this would be a great time for an opposition party that has a coherent vision of what future they'd like to offer to voters to emerge

z_tbd, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 21:34 (one week ago)

A tiny drop in a huge bucket, but Denmark's selling off its U.S. Treasury bonds — albeit just $100 million. They say it's got nothing to with Greenland (sure), but is just because the U.S. economy is so weak (ouch). Doesn't mean much on its own, but probably not something U.S. officials want to see become a trend.

https://www.reuters.com/business/danish-pension-fund-divest-its-us-treasuries-2026-01-20/

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 21:34 (one week ago)

sell high avoid a crash

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 21:37 (one week ago)

xp

the immmigration response is a huge fucking bummer but it points to a key problem - gop gets destroyed in midterms, trump leaves/dies, whatever, democrats get elected in 2028, great - but a third of this country actively seeks violence against people they don't even want to try to understand, and another third just doesn't know what they think, perhaps because all they have to choose between (nationally) is pure hatred vs moral cowardice. abolish ice, for the love of god, "tear down ice" as gallego puts it, but democrats as a party MUST offer a vision of the future that is different and better, and they either won't or can't

z_tbd, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 21:37 (one week ago)

I actually don't think most Americans, including Dems, will care about our "invading" or "conquering" Greenland. #jamespolk

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 21:42 (one week ago)

^me neither

do we have polling on how many people in the united states a) know where greenland is (even with 1000 miles counts), b) know what nato is (at ALL), and c) can coherently explain how greenland is connected to nato (all they have to say is...ANYTHING that makes ANY sense at all)

the poll results are that yes, 13% can do that

z_tbd, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 21:44 (one week ago)

in the land of the blind, norm macdonald doing burt reynolds on celebrity jeopardy is the king

z_tbd, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 21:45 (one week ago)

invading other countries to expand isn't exactly a new trend for the u.s.

map, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 21:45 (one week ago)

democrats as a party MUST offer a vision of the future that is different and better, and they either won't or can't

i'm struggling to think of a time when anyone in power in the u.s. offered a bold vision of domestic hope and peace that wasn't undergirded by war and resource extraction. definitely not in the last 50 years afaict but i'm no expert. i think the reason why dems lose is that that's essentially who they are too but they have to be two-faced about it. americans like their war monger presidents straight up.

map, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 21:51 (one week ago)

I'm all in on the "Dems are pathetic" bandwagon, they've been even worse than I expected them to be during Trump 2.0 (and my expectations were low). I do think it's useful to pull back a little on the "Dems always lose" line though — they don't lose much more than Republicans do. They've won half of the last 10 presidential elections (and won the popular vote in two of the elections they lost), and control of the Senate has also been about half-and-half during that time. The GOP has held the House more than the Democrats over the past 30 years, with the longest stretch being 10 years after Newt's takeover, but Democrats have been able to win it back and could do that again this year.

So it's not really that they always lose. Even with a fairly hazy and quite pro-corporate agenda, they've managed to stay competitive partly because whenever the Republicans hold power for too long people end up hating them. Which is in no way disagreeing that they desperately need a coherent, popular, populist agenda and some actually inspiring leadership. Then they could really actually WIN instead of just being the default not-them choice.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 22:26 (one week ago)

when anyone in power in the u.s. offered a bold vision of domestic hope and peace that wasn't undergirded by war and resource extraction

yeah, maybe the pre-war FDR administration but those were very dark times economically

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 22:28 (one week ago)

people may not care about greenland or it’s aboriginal inhabitants but if our boys come back in body bags they might

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 22:30 (one week ago)

I have a hard time believing the US would suffer signficant, if any, losses of life with a theoretical invasion of Greenland. Only if this escalated into some major war with the EU which I doubt very much will happen.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 22:42 (one week ago)

Yep.

On "immigration" (as opposed to just talking about ICE methods) Biden and current Dems never really made a strong case to make clear that data shows that most immigrants come here to work and don't commit crimes at a higher rate than citizens, or explain how many people do follow the immigration rules (which are more restrictive than in the past). Mainstream media and rightwing media and Schumer and Jeffries are never mentioning those arguments and thus way too many people just think everyone is a criminal for being here (and at the most just want them kicked out in a nicer way). Republicans also never worry about polls and just do what they want.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 22:44 (one week ago)

the fact that Dems only win about half the time *is* a huge problem though. because the GOP does not even pretend to make their voters lives better. they are actively hostile to the working man. their entire M.O. is less for you, more for us, but if it helps we can torture some minorities and queer people for fun. they lie about everything and treat their own voters like they're idiots (okay, yeah, I know). they also demolish the economy and slaughter small businesses every time they're in office which is the one reason everyone says they vote for them. they get away with it because Democrats are so pathetic. they are up against a party watching ICE spend $30,000,000,000 in taxpayer money to murder people in broad daylight and tear gas babies and just go "these men need better training". they won't even entertain the notion of enforcing the law against those who dehumanize their voters. they're fucking worthless and things will never get better until most of them are replaced with people who actually give a shit.

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 22:45 (one week ago)

The idea that the minnesota stuff is about enforcing immigration law is laughable.

treeship., Tuesday, 20 January 2026 22:49 (one week ago)

true. it would help if the dems were more united in their talking points.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 22:53 (one week ago)

xp totally agree frogsb. Just saying that the picture isn't as hopeless as "the Dems always lose," they already win some while being pathetic and useless. Imagine what they could do if they weren't.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 22:54 (one week ago)

I mean frogbs! I think I unconsciously say it as Frogsby in my head.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 22:54 (one week ago)

well, as i always say, shit in one hand, make a strongly worded statement about "reforming" ICE in the other

budo jeru, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 22:55 (one week ago)

The confidence in republicans handling of the economy is the one that really gets me. Like how many times do we have to see the economy in tatters after a republican president to understand that they suck at this

Heez, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 23:02 (one week ago)

crazy to me how a majority of voters can think the Republican party can handle the economy and other issues better than the Dems

this really has nothing to do with "managing the economy better". this correlates to exactly one thing in the minds of average voters: republicans pass tax reductions, more tax reductions, and yet more tax reductions, even though they are tilted grossly to the rich far more than the middle class. when Dems reduce taxes they do it timidly and loaded with confusing complications that exasperate taxpayers and small businesses.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 20 January 2026 23:08 (one week ago)

can't help but remark that WaPo is PART of the problem they are "reporting" on

budo jeru, Tuesday, 20 January 2026 23:15 (one week ago)

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/federal-judge-trump-appointed-federal-prosecutor-virginia-masquerading-129399344

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 01:44 (one week ago)

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/20/trump-musk-doge-social-security-00737245

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 02:15 (one week ago)

its crazy 20 years ago DOGE would've been one of the biggest political scandals of all time

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 January 2026 03:38 (one week ago)

Yeah, when you remove all possibilities for consequences the scandals just don’t hit like they used to.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 03:51 (one week ago)

its crazy 20 years ago DOGE would've been one of the biggest political scandals of all time

and 10 years you might have thought there was any possibility, even 0.000001%, that musk would face any consequences whatsoever

z_tbd, Wednesday, 21 January 2026 03:55 (one week ago)

shit's getting pretty scary for me, kinda feels like the rest of the world was willing to humor Trump if they thought it meant business as usual, now it kinda seems like they're giving up on treating us like an ally and might even really fuck up our trade agreements which could really mess things up in this country, what's worse this damage will take a long time to fix if it's fixed ever, and its all for basically nothing

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 January 2026 04:56 (one week ago)

Well it’s for Trump to personally rack up billions of dollars

Heez, Wednesday, 21 January 2026 05:11 (one week ago)

i have pretty long predicted trump would cause the failure of our global financial hegemony by repudiating the national debt. it appears i may have been wrong. he will break it by being an asshole bad-faith malefactor clown to every entity that interacts with him.

“deal” or “no deal,” there is never a deal. there is only his way until you fight him and win. or he wins.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 05:12 (one week ago)

xpost

“another third just doesn't know what they think, perhaps because all they have to choose between (nationally) is pure hatred vs moral cowardice”

Not to mention the incredibly stilted media environment — not to harp on this endlessly but most people get their information from corporate social media now. You know stupid your Facebook feed is? Well you’re probably seeing the top 10% smartest segment of the app in America.

I don’t think most of the country views politics through the same polarized moral lens folks here tend to (and yes morals and ethics matter!) I think it’s much more about who’s perceived as a part of your “tribe” etc.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 05:17 (one week ago)

Wamp wamp

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5698137-lindsey-halligan-departs-eastern-district/

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 05:42 (one week ago)

it kinda seems like they're giving up on treating us like an ally and might even really fuck up our trade agreements which could really mess things up in this country

Resisting the temptation to comment here.

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 10:02 (one week ago)

No resistance from me: what are these trade agreements? You mean this stuff around tariffs that actually isn't worth the paper they are written on?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 January 2026 10:18 (one week ago)

This is in reply to Trump's statement that there won't be a deficit next year. Even Setser (who is a very sober, analytical commentator on economics) did a mild version of panic in this tweet which made lol this morning.

Am reasonably good at tracking the high frequency trade data. Pretty sure the US will run a trade deficit in 2026 absent a massive recession/ big dollar sell off.

But if President Trump invades Greenland, breaks NATO, crashes the market and breaks the dollar he could be right pic.twitter.com/BF2gKWGjGf

— Brad Setser (@Brad_Setser) January 21, 2026

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 January 2026 10:46 (one week ago)

the fact that Dems only win about half the time *is* a huge problem though. because the GOP does not even pretend to make their voters lives better. they are actively hostile to the working man. their entire M.O. is less for you, more for us, but if it helps we can torture some minorities and queer people for fun. they lie about everything and treat their own voters like they're idiots (okay, yeah, I know)

maybe these are some of the reasons they only win about half the time

uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 11:32 (one week ago)

The confidence in republicans handling of the economy is the one that really gets me. Like how many times do we have to see the economy in tatters after a republican president to understand that they suck at this
― Heez, mardi 20 janvier 2026 23:02 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Don't you feel proud that you have rich and famous people in your country? What's national debt, a few layoffs and paying a little more for eggs compared to that powerful feeling ? That's the economy now.

Naledi, Wednesday, 21 January 2026 11:48 (one week ago)

I'm all in on the "Dems are pathetic" bandwagon, they've been even worse than I expected them to be during Trump 2.0 (and my expectations were low). I do think it's useful to pull back a little on the "Dems always lose" line though — they don't lose much more than Republicans do. They've won half of the last 10 presidential elections (and won the popular vote in two of the elections they lost), and control of the Senate has also been about half-and-half during that time. The GOP has held the House more than the Democrats over the past 30 years, with the longest stretch being 10 years after Newt's takeover, but Democrats have been able to win it back and could do that again this year.

So it's not really that they always lose. Even with a fairly hazy and quite pro-corporate agenda, they've managed to stay competitive partly because whenever the Republicans hold power for too long people end up hating them. Which is in no way disagreeing that they desperately need a coherent, popular, populist agenda and some actually inspiring leadership. Then they could really actually WIN instead of just being the default not-them choice.

This ignores state positions entirely where Republicans hold a majority (supermajority?) of state legislatures and governorships.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, January 20, 2026 5:26 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 12:31 (one week ago)

I'm pretty sure tipsy's aware.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 12:43 (one week ago)

lol yes very much. Those supermajorities are mostly accomplished by gerrymandering, but the majorities are real. The polarization works both ways — there were Republican governors in NY and California as recently as there were Democratic governors in Tennessee and Florida, all of which seem out of reach at the moment. Republicans have a state-by-state advantage, because there are so many small-to-medium mostly-white states. Definitely that map is daunting for Democrats, and they need a generation-long plan to attack it.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 13:20 (one week ago)

the poor woman who was ripped from her car by ICE has spoken

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icoNCo5Za_0

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 15:44 (one week ago)

incredibly infuriating hearing her recount what happened.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 15:53 (one week ago)

ooohhh, no he didn't
(I'll bet he thought that was a real zinger)

“Gov. Newsom, who strikes me as Patrick Bateman meets Sparkle Beach Ken, may be the only Californian who knows less about economics than Kamala Harris,” Bessent said.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 January 2026 19:25 (one week ago)

It might've been if Bessent spoke English.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 19:25 (one week ago)

To absolutely no one’s surprise

https://apnews.com/article/ice-arrests-warrants-minneapolis-trump-00d0ab0338e82341fd91b160758aeb2d

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 22:29 (one week ago)

I kind of wondered the entire time the guidance was being given out if ICE was even adhering to the old standard, but you have to give out advice based on what is known so they couldn't really assume otherwise.

not shocked. am angry

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 January 2026 22:32 (one week ago)

B/C of the Greenland brouhaha, NATO is now limiting intelligence sharing with the US. US is weak with the five eyes and with allies. This was probably amongst the best outcomes Putin and the mafia thugs have wished for, for a while.

BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 21 January 2026 22:36 (one week ago)

jesus fucking christ

https://bsky.app/profile/amreports.bsky.social/post/3mcxlw4ijx42p

can't wait for the Dems to agree to fund this tomorrow

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 January 2026 22:46 (one week ago)

in case you’re all wondering how the Kennedy Center is doing, they’re now advertising it as a wedding venue.

https://www.kennedy-center.org/rentals/weddings/

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 January 2026 01:51 (one week ago)

can't wait for the Dems to agree to fund this tomorrow

are you OK? can I get you anything?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 22 January 2026 03:54 (one week ago)

fuck you?

budo jeru, Thursday, 22 January 2026 04:02 (one week ago)

nah this just makes me real sick to my stomach and every time I've believed the Democrats might take a meaningful stand against this I've gotten burned

frogbs, Thursday, 22 January 2026 04:04 (one week ago)

the full vid makes it even worse, the man is already on the ground pinned by three agents, then this psycho freak walks in and pepper sprays him directly in the eyes

also looks like they kidnapped a 5 year old boy today and used him as bait to get his parents

the fact that half the country thinks this is A-OK while elected officials on the other side are still talking about the price of eggs makes me physically ill

frogbs, Thursday, 22 January 2026 04:08 (one week ago)

every time I've believed the Democrats might take a meaningful stand against this I've gotten burned

what would be your measure of meaningfulness? they can continue to call out these kinds of actions as deeply wrong, but they're doing that already. they could walk out. well, I mean, they did shutdown the government for the longest period ever trying to stop the Republicans from doing harm to tens of millions. I guess they could arm themselves and kill republicans I suppose, but I agree, you'll wait forever before that happens.

so, name your version of success.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 22 January 2026 04:12 (one week ago)

The photo of the 5-year-old being detained is so heartbreaking. With his little red backpack and his little blue hat.

https://sahanjournal.com/education/ice-minnesota-columbia-heights-students-detained/

Just monstrous, all of it.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 22 January 2026 04:17 (one week ago)

my version of success is for not a single one of them to vote to give any more of our tax dollars to these murderous child snatching freaks, no more of this "we can just train them better" bullshit nor compromises made out of a fear of appearing "anti-police". and I would also like them to publicly state that they are going to go after those committing atrocities as soon as they get back into power. standing up and telling them to piss off is pretty much the only thing that's ever worked against these assholes

frogbs, Thursday, 22 January 2026 04:17 (one week ago)

walked past two elderly people chatting on a brooklyn sidewalk today discussing how 'they' can shove that covid vaccine up their asses/that whole thing was a huge trick . . . that at one point was killing 2000+ americans each day

an entire country so dumb that it thought it was born on third base (and deserved it)

xp wtf aimless

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 January 2026 04:21 (one week ago)

I would also like them to publicly state that they are going to go after those committing atrocities as soon as they get back into power.

now, that one I can get behind 100%! I urge you to tell the Democrats of your choice that this is what you expect of them. Repeatedly. Why wait for them to get the idea on their own? Poke them! Goad them. Drive them in the right direction. Tell them you'll back them up if they do.

btw, thanks for answering instead of telling me' fuck you'. I agree with you now that I know more about what you're wanting to see.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 22 January 2026 04:24 (one week ago)

Anyone running for congress in the fall needs to prioritize bringing republican lawbreakers to justice and being a brick wall against any and all Trump orders not backed by congress. The fact that so few can plainly state these things is deeply worrisome.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Thursday, 22 January 2026 04:49 (one week ago)

honestly I don't know if average people have any clue what's going on. obviously you can't trust the media at large to report on this right now. if it's all over Reddit then that is good. I'm married to an immigrant and she is terrified as are many of her friends. we are getting passport cards for the kids on Friday. it's insane that this isn't scaring this shit out of the average American. idk how to come to grips with the fact that a huge chunk of this country thinks it's okay for secret police to arrest a fucking kindergartener. I don't want to share a country with these people. I'm hoping the problem is they just don't know. I mean you can't even chalk it up to the same "fake news" bullshit. there are actual videos of this happening. I think it needs to be plastered everywhere the way the Jan 6 footage was. if you're gonna be a monster then you have to own it. look your friends and family in the face and tell them this is cool with you. alright I'm gonna wrap this little psychotic break up now and go to bed

frogbs, Thursday, 22 January 2026 05:00 (one week ago)

you are 100% otm imo

budo jeru, Thursday, 22 January 2026 05:07 (one week ago)

especially

my version of success is for not a single one of them to vote to give any more of our tax dollars to these murderous child snatching freaks

budo jeru, Thursday, 22 January 2026 05:07 (one week ago)

xp jeez frogbs, i am so sorry. and i share your feelings about others’ seeming non-reactions to these atrocities.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Thursday, 22 January 2026 05:08 (one week ago)

apologies if this has already been covered, but here's the (as of now) most likely Dem nominee:

“California has cooperated with more ICE transfers probably than any other state in the country, and I have vetoed multiple pieces of legislation that have come from my Legislature to stop the ability for the state of California to do that,” the governor added.

Newsom also said he disagreed with other Democrats who have called for ICE to be abolished.

encino morricone (majorairbro), Thursday, 22 January 2026 06:22 (one week ago)

newsom is going nowhere

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 January 2026 06:33 (one week ago)

They’re not running a Californian in 2028.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 22 January 2026 06:51 (one week ago)

idk how to come to grips with the fact that a huge chunk of this country thinks it's okay for secret police to arrest a fucking kindergartener. I don't want to share a country with these people.

Defunding is seen as too left wing in the first place, so it largely won't be done.

But even if it did many of these people would go back to society and live 'normal' lives. This is an even bigger problem.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 January 2026 06:54 (one week ago)

Newsom’s an idiot. You’re supposed to pivot to the right after the primary. I say that with as much cynicism as possible

Heez, Thursday, 22 January 2026 07:16 (one week ago)

Independent autopsy of Renee Good shows two non-life-threatening wounds, and one head wound that killed her. That one entered at the left temple and exited at the right temple. In other words, it was from the side — through her side window, as she was already well past him.

https://minnesotareformer.com/2026/01/21/renee-good-shot-in-left-temple-per-independent-autopsy/

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 22 January 2026 12:45 (one week ago)

Silly liberal, everyone knows the safest cars on the road are the ones being driven by someone with a fatal head wound. Heck, sometimes I just shoot myself in the head when I'm driving. For the safety of bystanders and other drivers.

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 22 January 2026 13:00 (one week ago)

ICE detains 5-year old Minnesota boy; school leader says agents used him as ‘bait’

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 22 January 2026 13:03 (one week ago)

Shoot the mommies, capture the kiddies, all thanks to daddy

Naledi, Thursday, 22 January 2026 13:24 (one week ago)

Oh, and the logo of the "Board of Peace" is... a map of Northern America plated in gold.

Naledi, Thursday, 22 January 2026 13:30 (one week ago)

God, "Board of Peace" is like a scrapped Dr. Strangelove joke

jmm, Thursday, 22 January 2026 13:52 (one week ago)

Ladies n gents, your Board of Peace!

Isa bin Salman bin Hamad Al Khalifa, minister of the prime minister’s court, Bahrain
Nasser Bourita, minister of foreign affairs, Morocco
Javier Milei, president, Argentina
Nikol Pashinyan, prime minister, Armenia
Ilham Aliyev, President, Azerbaijan
Rosen Zhelyazkov, prime minister, Bulgaria
Viktor Orban, prime minister, Hungary
Prabowo Subianto, president, Indonesia
Ayman Al Safadi, minister of foreign affairs, Jordan
Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, president, Kazakhstan
Vjosa Osmani-Sadriu, president, Kosovo
Mian Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif, prime minister, Pakistan
Santiago Peña, president, Paraguay
Mohammed Bin Abdulrahman Al Thani, president, Qatar
Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud, minister of foreign affairs, Saudi Arabia
Hakan Fidan, minister of foreign affairs, Turkey
Khaldoon Khalifa Al Mubarak, special envoy to the U.S. for the UAE
Shavkat Mirziyoyev, president, Uzbekistan
Gombojavyn Zandanshatar, prime minister, Mongolia

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 22 January 2026 14:09 (one week ago)

Thank you for the billions, the next meeting is adjourned.

Naledi, Thursday, 22 January 2026 14:16 (one week ago)

do the reps from Armenia, Azerbaijan and Turkey sit next to each other?

dan selzer, Thursday, 22 January 2026 14:17 (one week ago)

they’re nearly all from countries Trump has banned entry

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 January 2026 14:58 (one week ago)

Milei and Orban? Seriously?

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 January 2026 14:59 (one week ago)

it's spelled Bored of Peace, hyuck hyuck

obvious old hat (rob), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:06 (one week ago)

apologies if this has already been covered, but here's the (as of now) most likely Dem nominee:

“California has cooperated with more ICE transfers probably than any other state in the country, and I have vetoed multiple pieces of legislation that have come from my Legislature to stop the ability for the state of California to do that,” the governor added.

Newsom also said he disagreed with other Democrats who have called for ICE to be abolished.

― encino morricone (majorairbro), Thursday, 22 January 2026 06:22 (eight hours ago)

newsom sucks and we don't need a triangulator in 2028

treeship., Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:13 (one week ago)

also, does Kosovo even have a billion dollars to throw at President Graft?

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:16 (one week ago)

ha ha There's a guy with a Dropkick Murphys t-shirt sitting behind Jack Smith at the hearing.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:24 (one week ago)

Nekima Levy Armstrong arrested for church protest

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:25 (one week ago)

what the hell could the charge possibly be? trespassing?

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:27 (one week ago)

I believe they are going to try and cook-up a "hate crime" charge for disrupting a service

Vance is coming to Mpls today as well, I have a feeling today is going to be a bad day

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:27 (one week ago)

They are using an old law designed to go after the KKK, demonstrating in order to disrupt someone's constitutional rights (going to church I guess)

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:28 (one week ago)

if Bondi thinks the optics of using a KKK law to prosecute a Black Civil Rights activist is going to play well, yikes.

be amazed if any of it sticks - clearly attempting to chill protesting at churches which I feel like might become a new thing after all this. i.e. "you can't prosecute us all!"

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:31 (one week ago)

this is the least-caring-about-optics admin ever though

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:32 (one week ago)

They are probably all high-fiving each other for trolling the civil right movement

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:32 (one week ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/21/us/politics/rahm-emanuel-age-limit-75.html

a broken rahm is right twice a day

he just can't help being an asshole though:

Mr. Emanuel is 66, older than many of the Democrats and Republicans who are seen as the next generation of American political leaders. If he were elected president in 2028, his age limit of 75 would in theory prohibit him from serving for a second term.
“You can count,” Mr. Emanuel wrote in a text message when asked if the age cap would apply to him, going on to detail his past efforts to enact stricter ethics rules.

na (NA), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:33 (one week ago)

xpost of course they care about optics. that's why they've been spending a painstaking amount of time persecuting Kilmar Abrego Garcia because admitting they screwed up would look so 'weak'. that's why they've spent so much time persecuting the memory of Renee Good and re-litigating the validity of that shooting almost daily in the press. they're obsessed with controlling the narrative and hate when it gets away from them.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:35 (one week ago)

well, yeah. But they don't care about the optics of using an anti-KKK law against a black activist. It's a plus.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:37 (one week ago)

idk they post straight-up Nazi stuff online all day every day, they're not exactly running from the KKK stink

obvious old hat (rob), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:38 (one week ago)

i'm saying that they seem to think this will chill protests at churches because people will be afraid of facing years in prison over it but that the instrument being used to prosecute is likely to anger people enough to where this becomes a regular thing

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:40 (one week ago)

ok maybe, that sounds a little complicated though. I'd guess they're just super excited that they get to say "the left is protesting churches" which sounds bad to most people with no context, and I'd prob recommend not ramping church protests without a really good reason

obvious old hat (rob), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:43 (one week ago)

going to go out on a limb and say there are probably other ICE pastors out there. or churches who have ICE agents in places of power. plenty of angles to play.

as of right now the "omg they're descending on churches" narrative seems to not be getting much play outside of the Fox News circuit, at least in my orbit.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:47 (one week ago)

I think prosecuting the church protesters is a bad idea for them because as they keep forgetting and being reminded nearly every week, their cases always look much weaker in the cold light of court than when trolling on social media. And they're creating a big public platform for the people they charge. Even if they manage to convict them of something, it won't be much, and in the meantime they're keeping attention on the complicity of the evangelical church with ICE.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:47 (one week ago)

also kind of hard to play up the "us Christians are being persecuted" angle when your side is gleefully kidnapping children and shooting mothers in the face

frogbs, Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:52 (one week ago)

lots of Evangelicals really misinterpreting the "I came not to bring peace, but a sword" verse. but that's not surprising.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:53 (one week ago)

Yeah white evangelicals looooooooove the sword verse, they just wish there was one about guns.

Also reading about Levy Armstrong, she seems like the kind of long-time activist who will make plenty of use of this platform. (No idea what people in the Twin Cities think of her, she's obviously been a presence there for a while — former NAACP head, former mayoral candidate, etc.)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 22 January 2026 15:58 (one week ago)

Tricia McLaughlin lying and saying the 5 year old wasn't detained, he was abandoned is....something, considering everybody knows that wasn't the case

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 January 2026 16:28 (one week ago)

I think prosecuting the church protesters is a bad idea

i made the mistake of reading the comments on one of the protest videos and it was disheartening, to say the least, that the comments were unanimous in declaring the protest a hate crime, wishing the protesters end up in prison, etc.

budo jeru, Thursday, 22 January 2026 16:49 (one week ago)

there was also a smattering of "but Obama" and "they're only made because Trump's doing it"

budo jeru, Thursday, 22 January 2026 16:51 (one week ago)

Tricia McLaughlin lying and saying the 5 year old wasn't detained, he was abandoned is....something, considering everybody knows that wasn't the case

― Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, January 22, 2026 10:28 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

so they do at least seem aware at how bad this is making them look

frogbs, Thursday, 22 January 2026 16:52 (one week ago)

Seems to be some kind of unofficial general strike happening in Minnesota tomorrow, not sure who will actually be striking though. Since the weather is likely to be around -25C across the state it seems like a good day to do it anyway.

ernest borgnine as pitchfork-wielding pacifist amish farmer (Matt #2), Thursday, 22 January 2026 17:03 (one week ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/gregsargent.bsky.social/post/3mczncn3pic2c

“And this is really something: NYT poll finds 55% of noncollege voters disapprove of Trump on immigration, including 74% of nonwhite noncollege.”

mixed feels, cause this reinforces my belief it doesn’t matter what color they are 26% of USians are just butt-ass insane, stupid, or evil.

(ha i thought i just created usian but the term exists)

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Thursday, 22 January 2026 17:15 (one week ago)

jack smith is doing a good job at the hearing i think

treeship., Thursday, 22 January 2026 17:16 (one week ago)

I saw that the Walker Art Center (the major art museum in Minneapolis) is closing tomorrow.

Venus of Willendorf on Golf (jaymc), Thursday, 22 January 2026 17:26 (one week ago)

(xpost to Matt #2)

Venus of Willendorf on Golf (jaymc), Thursday, 22 January 2026 17:26 (one week ago)

Seems to be some kind of unofficial general strike happening in Minnesota tomorrow, not sure who will actually be striking though. Since the weather is likely to be around -25C across the state it seems like a good day to do it anyway.

― ernest borgnine as pitchfork-wielding pacifist amish farmer (Matt #2), Thursday, January 22, 2026 11:03 AM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

not working tomorrow, planning on going to the march downtown, weather could be a factor though. however, my partner got me some electric socks (have these little USB-C battery packs in them and a heating element) that I'm kind of excited to try out

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 January 2026 17:31 (one week ago)

stay safe ...and warm!

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 January 2026 17:40 (one week ago)

yeah the general strike is well publicized and fam there plans to participate. the AFL-CIO endorsed it which is a big deal

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 January 2026 17:46 (one week ago)

Good lord Jim Jordan is a smarmy annoying fuck

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 22 January 2026 17:47 (one week ago)

Yeah, I watched a bit, but then I thought, man, why bother? The GOP operates entirely in poor faith.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 January 2026 17:55 (one week ago)

lots of Evangelicals really misinterpreting the "I came not to bring peace, but a sword" verse

Yeah, but how does that verse conclude? A man’s enemies will be the members of his own household

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 January 2026 18:02 (one week ago)

Maybe Baron isn't all bad:

The Snaresbrook Crown Court this week heard the call as part of a trial against 22-year-old Matvei Rumiantsev, who denies the accusations he assaulted and raped his ex-girlfriend. The woman allegedly FaceTimed the U.S. president's 19-year-old son at the time of the assault on Jan. 18, 2025.

The transcript said Trump then called Metropolitan police from the U.S. to report that the woman was "getting beat up," and that it was "really an emergency." The call grew tense as Trump reportedly pleaded for urgency as the emergency operator repeatedly asked how he knew the woman.

"Can you stop being rude and actually answer my questions?" the operator told Trump, who kept saying that details about their relationship are not immediately relevant. He eventually said he met her on social media.

"Sorry for being rude," Trump closed.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 January 2026 18:10 (one week ago)

The long NY Times piece about the politicization of the FBI (with dozens of current and former agents speaking out, many anonymously) is worth reading.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 22 January 2026 18:35 (one week ago)

i made the mistake of reading the comments on one of the protest videos and it was disheartening, to say the least, that the comments were unanimous in declaring the protest a hate crime, wishing the protesters end up in prison, etc.

― budo jeru, Thursday, January 22, 2026 10:49 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I would probably avoid reading the comments on anything political for a while, for one it's hard to trust this is reflective of the public at all given what we know about the right's extensive astroturfing and use of bots (and the way basically every major social media site is amplifying right wing content), for two it very much seems like folks on the left are actively getting out there and doing stuff while the right are just posting from the shitter

frogbs, Thursday, 22 January 2026 18:42 (one week ago)

yeah for example we see the flooding of anti-Renee Good replies on just about every social media posting but we see the polls tell a different story on how it's actually viewed in the general public.

this one won't be such a clean split because there are some naive churchgoing centrists that will view this as a bridge too far possibly but even then...people will also take note that the Westboro Baptist Church used to picket funerals, and also, less people identify as Christian now than ever before (a 14% decline in just 6 years)

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 January 2026 18:45 (one week ago)

why was barron trump on a facetime call with some random russian woman he met on 'social media' in another country

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 22 January 2026 18:45 (one week ago)

His father told him Russian women have some, er, unique talents.

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 January 2026 18:46 (one week ago)

he got catfished

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 January 2026 18:47 (one week ago)

yeah that was my thought

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:02 (one week ago)

Was she Russian? I know her assailant was.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:03 (one week ago)

the comments were unanimous in declaring the protest a hate crime, wishing the protesters end up in prison, etc.

before drawing the direst possible conclusion, it's good to remember that bots can leave comments, so the appearance of unanimity and overwhelming numbers of commenters, all in agreement, may be part of a campaign run by bots and financed by - let's just say Russia likes to do stuff like that.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:04 (one week ago)

Yeah I feel like I'm mostly in a lefty/lib silo on instagram, but then I kicked on a video shot by a neighbor in the aftermath of Good's murder (basically asking the widow if she needed help, the guy was very decent)... but the comments were unexpected: "She deserved it, trying to kill a cop" and a lot of "Why didn't you libs care about Ashlee Babitt?' and that kind of thing, it was awful

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:14 (one week ago)

clicked, not kicked

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:14 (one week ago)

are these Instas locked down to where you have to be a follower to read, or public?

i've noticed that on FB, lots of my friends post everything publicly because they either don't know how to curate an audience or don't care, and whereas usually the randos who showed up to comment were minimal, LOTS of strangers show up to comment on profiles (leading to responses of "who tf are you?"). which kinda validates the whole 'bot' thing because clearly something is scanning for key words.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:23 (one week ago)

there are for sure bots, and sometimes they're easy to spot, but a lot of these commenters are just losers with nothing better to do

c u (crüt), Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:31 (one week ago)

are these Instas locked down to where you have to be a follower to read, or public?

this is just the random scrolling stuff, so all public

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:35 (one week ago)

before drawing the direst possible conclusion, it's good to remember that bots can leave comments, so the appearance of unanimity and overwhelming numbers of commenters, all in agreement, may be part of a campaign run by bots and financed by - let's just say Russia likes to do stuff like that.

This is a wild take in less than two years after millions of Americans voted for Trump again.

colonic interrogation (gyac), Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:39 (one week ago)

It's not that wild, the majority of content on social media these days is by bots or AI

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:48 (one week ago)

Both things can be true.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:50 (one week ago)

I don't post one of these things, but I'm astounded by this quote:

Mr. Trump will turn 80 this year and will be the oldest president ever to serve by the end of his term. Voters do not see his age as a hindrance the same way they did for Mr. Biden, with 40 percent saying he is too old to be effective, but 58 percent saying that he is not. That figure is largely unchanged since October 2024.

“I think he must be doing something right when there are so many people opposed to him,” said Paul Minihane, 77, a real estate broker who lives in Dedham, Mass. “I mean, Donald Trump could look at me in the face and tell me to go screw myself. And I’d say, ‘Thank you.’ I think that’s good. I don’t think he’s looking to kiss everybody’s ass. I think he’s going to do what he thinks is the right thing. And I think that’s a positive thing.”

"Please, sir, kick my teeth in, I like it!"

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:51 (one week ago)

I saw that the Walker Art Center (the major art museum in Minneapolis) is closing tomorrow.

― Venus of Willendorf on Golf (jaymc), Thursday, 22 January 2026 17:26 (two hours ago)

Minneapolis Institute of Art, the other major art museum in town is also closed

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:54 (one week ago)

Also, literally every restaurant worth eating at in town is closing as well

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:55 (one week ago)

xxxxxxpost as mindblowing as it to tell us that Trump actually has millions of voters, I assure you most of us can tell the difference between some basement dwelling MAGA troll vs 20 profiles all posting the same text with one or two words changed with backgrounds that are stock as stock comes.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:56 (one week ago)

“I think he must be doing something right when there are so many people opposed to him”

you could say the same about Genghis Khan or Hitler

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:57 (one week ago)

There are also a lot of weird/basic politics accounts on FB for the left. I wouldn’t comment BTL on a legacy media account on FB, but I’ve clicked through on some of the more glib RW posters, and they’re definitely bots.

That said, my late mom’s best friend (who is Trumpy and lives in The Villages) had words for me after I posted my attendance at the London vigil for Renee Good, holding a banner that said “fucking bitch” with half a dozen women, asking about Ashli Babbitt. I deleted her comments and she can’t post to my page anymore.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 22 January 2026 19:59 (one week ago)

at the Jack Smith hearing, the aforementioned guy in the Dropkick Murphys shirt is actually Michael Fanone, a DC Metro cop who was at Jan 6th... he got into a little courtroom scrap with Ivan Raiklin, a conservative asshole and conspiracy theorist

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 January 2026 20:20 (one week ago)

Unsurprising: Klobuchar files paperwork to run for MN Gov

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 January 2026 20:33 (one week ago)

she's a fucking clown and a loser

budo jeru, Thursday, 22 January 2026 20:43 (one week ago)

at the Jack Smith hearing, the aforementioned guy in the Dropkick Murphys shirt is actually Michael Fanone, a DC Metro cop who was at Jan 6th... he got into a little courtroom scrap with Ivan Raiklin, a conservative asshole and conspiracy theorist

He did a "go fuck yourself" cough while some Republican asshole was talking. It was pretty funny and clearly audible on room mics.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 22 January 2026 20:53 (one week ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/22/white-house-ice-protest-arrest-altered-image

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Thursday, 22 January 2026 21:28 (one week ago)

jesus... that's like Josef Stalin shit right there

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 January 2026 21:29 (one week ago)

https://www.abramsbooks.com/cover_images/9/9781849762519_s3.jpg

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 January 2026 21:30 (one week ago)

I don't post one of these things, but I'm astounded by this quote🕸:

_Mr. Trump will turn 80 this year and will be the oldest president ever to serve by the end of his term. Voters do not see his age as a hindrance the same way they did for Mr. Biden, with 40 percent saying he is too old to be effective, but 58 percent saying that he is not. That figure is largely unchanged since October 2024.

“I think he must be doing something right when there are so many people opposed to him,” said Paul Minihane, 77, a real estate broker who lives in Dedham, Mass. “I mean, Donald Trump could look at me in the face and tell me to go screw myself. And I’d say, ‘Thank you.’ I think that’s good. I don’t think he’s looking to kiss everybody’s ass. I think he’s going to do what he thinks is the right thing. And I think that’s a positive thing.”_

"Please, sir, kick my teeth in, I like it!"

tell me you were abused as a child without telling me etc…

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 January 2026 21:34 (one week ago)

his is a wild take in less than two years after millions of Americans voted for Trump again.

Of people who voted, 49.6% voted for Trump and 50.4% voted otherwise. If you're citing voting as your argument, this statistic doesn't suggest that comments online regarding Trump's policies would be overwhelmingly unanimous in support. Current opinion polling on his immigration policy is even more adverse to him. I don't think my take was all that wild.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 22 January 2026 21:37 (one week ago)

jesus... that's like Josef Stalin shit right there

― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, January 22, 2026 3:29 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it's also genuinely pathetic not to mention profoundly unwise for an official government account to be doing this

frogbs, Thursday, 22 January 2026 21:40 (one week ago)

"the memes will continue"

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 January 2026 21:46 (one week ago)

oh look, the Dems decided to fund ICE after all

https://bsky.app/profile/andrewsolender.bsky.social/post/3md25onrkds2s

frogbs, Thursday, 22 January 2026 21:49 (one week ago)

fucking useless cowards, with an "opposition" party like this... I guess ultimately unsurprising but jesus fuckin' christ read the room

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 January 2026 21:54 (one week ago)

oh look, the Dems decided to fund ICE after all

https://bsky.app/profile/andrewsolender.bsky.social/post/3md25onrkds2s🕸


Are you ok? Can aimless get you anything?

stimmed hums (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2026 21:55 (one week ago)

Not sure what that’s supposed to mean, but any Dem voting to fund ICE deserves to be lose their fucking job

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 January 2026 22:03 (one week ago)

Yes, it is a small number, but those seven deserve nothing but to be hounded the rest of their lives.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 January 2026 22:03 (one week ago)

- Jared Golden
- Marie Gluesenkamp Perez
- Henry Cuellar
- Tom Suozzi
- Laura Gillen
- Don Davis
- Vicente Gonzalez

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 January 2026 22:04 (one week ago)

sadly, i think the reason there were "only" 7 democratic defectors is because there was only 1 republican vote (massie) against it. the measure passed by a single vote, which i'm guessing means republicans knew exactly how many democrats they needed. obviously a "tough" vote for dems, lol, so only the minimum amount number of house dems necessary to pass the immoral and inhumane funding of ice did so.

if more republicans would have voted no, even more democrats would have voted yes in order to pass it. i wish i knew that true number, but the more powerful ones among them got to hide

coldass fuckers

z_tbd, Thursday, 22 January 2026 22:04 (one week ago)

meanwhile an actual Republican (Massie, no surprise) voted No, so that makes it look even worse.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 January 2026 22:04 (one week ago)

hope that makes sense - tl;dr there are surely more house democrats that would have been willing to vote yes to fund ice than just those 7

xp

z_tbd, Thursday, 22 January 2026 22:05 (one week ago)

ie, if 3 republicans had a spine instead of just massie, then there would have to have been 9 house democratic votes for yes, and 2 more would emerge

z_tbd, Thursday, 22 January 2026 22:06 (one week ago)

_his is a wild take in less than two years after millions of Americans voted for Trump again._

Of people who voted, 49.6% voted for Trump and 50.4% voted otherwise. If you're citing voting as your argument, this statistic doesn't suggest that comments online regarding Trump's policies would be overwhelmingly unanimous in support. Current opinion polling on his immigration policy is even more adverse to him. I don't think my take was all that wild.

It’s not a wild take to suggest that some of the millions of Trump voters might comment online, or that telling someone living in a country where Trump won twice not to worry about the fascist comments when real people voted for him is a comforting lie at best. Real people are taking little children away from their parents, real people are openly mocking the pain of others from their paid positions in the US government. What’s not to get? Why wouldn’t their voters mirror the people they chose for their cruelty?

colonic interrogation (gyac), Thursday, 22 January 2026 22:47 (one week ago)

Are you ok? Can aimless get you anything?

― stimmed hums (wins), Thursday, January 22, 2026 3:55 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

LOL

budo jeru, Thursday, 22 January 2026 22:52 (one week ago)

this is the kind of british interference i can get behind fwiw

budo jeru, Thursday, 22 January 2026 22:52 (one week ago)

It’s not a wild take to suggest that some of the millions of Trump voters might comment online

no one said this was a wild take. you're reversing who said what.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 22 January 2026 23:48 (one week ago)

Also, literally every restaurant worth eating at in town is closing as well

― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, January 22, 2026 1:55 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i got the wishiest washiest email from our local Alliance française chapter, claiming they'd remain open but employees were free to "follow their conscience." took everything i had not to reply that it was typical of an organization promoting the so-called culture of a bunch of cowardly bootlicking collaborators and crypto-fascists

budo jeru, Thursday, 22 January 2026 23:53 (one week ago)

is this too international? Trump can self-serve indefinitely, according to Him, on the Board of Peace---so the Presidency maybe becomes, is becoming, another nice toy in the attic, like Congress, the Supreme Court, MAGA, other prizes---meanwhile, s succinctly unsparing view of details and The Big Picture, with no need for mere conspiracies:

NERMEEN SHAIKH: And, Yanis, let’s just talk about who is on this, the executive committee of this board. It includes, of course, Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, as well as the former British Prime Minister Tony Blair. Now, the French President Emmanuel Macron refused to join, warning that it could undermine the United Nations. But Trump will not only serve as the board’s chair indefinitely, he will also have veto power over all the board’s decisions. I mean, what do you think that means, especially in light of critics, like yourself, saying that this might actually be an organization that supersedes the United Nations, or, in fact, makes the U.N. entirely redundant?

YANIS VAROUFAKIS: Well, this is not a matter of interpretation. I mean, it’s what Trump wants. It’s what he says he wants to do. He says, “OK, well, maybe we can keep the United Nations as a rubber stamp.” You know, after all, he did push through his proposal of this Board of Peace for Gaza through the Security Council, with the complicity of the French and the British, who are now realizing that this is not just about, you know, Brown people in the developing world. It’s not just about the Palestinians, whom they themselves condemned to genocide. It’s about them, as well. So, they’re beginning to understand that they’re getting their comeuppance.

But, you know, when President Macron, for instance — you mentioned that — says, “Oh, but, you know, your Board of Peace is going to undermine the United Nations,” no, where were — where was President Macron when Israel was, effectively, wiping the floor clean with the Charter of the United Nations, with the decisions of International Court of Justice ordering Israel to withdraw from Occupied Territories? The answer is, people like President Macron and Prime Minister Keir Starmer of Britain and Friedrich Merz, the chancellor of Germany, were aiding and abetting this trashing of the United Nations. So, in a sense, Trump has all his work done for him by placid European centrists who went along with the policy of trashing international law and creating the circumstances for him to create his private company and say — right? — “I’m taking over the world.”

NERMEEN SHAIKH: Yanis, but what about this fact of a billion dollars? Each member will pay a billion dollars to join. Now, this is unprecedented as far as international organizations go. Which international organizations require payment from member states?

AMY GOODMAN: And, of course, Trump will all —

YANIS VAROUFAKIS: Well, it’s not unprecedented.

AMY GOODMAN: — will be in charge of that money.

YANIS VAROUFAKIS: It’s not at all unprecedented. It’s how capitalism made its first fluttering moves. Remember the East India Company, both the Dutch version and the British version? How did it happen? In the case of the British East India Company, while Shakespeare was writing a play somewhere in London, businessmen got together, and they chipped in the equivalent of a billion pounds or dollars, or whatever, each to create that company. And that company, in the end — let us not forget that — was the first colonizer. They had 200,000 soldiers under their command. They took over East India. They took over Indonesia. And it was only later that states came and effectively nationalized colonialism.

So, we are going back many centuries. It’s not — maybe it’s unprecedented given the narrative that we have been led to believe falsely, that it’s now permanent, over the last 60, 70 years. But, essentially, Trump is, with the complicity of the Europeans, at least in terms of their deeds, if not their words, is trying to maintain American hegemony, the hegemony of a very tiny ruling class of the United States, not of the people of the United States, over the world.


https://www.democracynow.org/2026/1/22/yanis_varoufakis#transcript And closer to home, click on those headlines to the right of this transcript.

dow, Friday, 23 January 2026 02:10 (one week ago)

Basically setting up a global mafia system, I think is the idea. You wanna do business, you gotta deal with these guys. They get a cut of everything. Nice planet, hate to see anything bad happen to it.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 23 January 2026 02:19 (one week ago)

It is wild how prescient Mbembe’s ‘Necropolitics’ is

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Friday, 23 January 2026 02:24 (one week ago)

We sure are getting a lot of folk heros at least. This guy's great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrYMM9WeLRs

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 23 January 2026 02:30 (one week ago)

whatever the “Board” is it’s not going to o the dude

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 23 January 2026 02:44 (one week ago)

outlive

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 23 January 2026 02:44 (one week ago)

aside from infighting/sidebets, and his self-proclaimed veto power, some of those other people on the BOP are no doubt playing the long game with the old man, seeing him as forever the basically delusional rich kid, like Osama.

dow, Friday, 23 January 2026 02:48 (one week ago)

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/01/22/moef-j22.html

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries told a closed-door meeting of congressional Democrats that while he would personally oppose legislation to fund the Department of Homeland Security for the remainder of the fiscal year—through September 30—the Democratic leadership would not seek to whip the vote, now set for Thursday.

The effect of this move is to ensure passage of full funding for the DHS and, in particular, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), in the wake of the murder of Renée Nicole Good by an ICE agent in Minneapolis on January 7, and the full-scale occupation of the Twin Cities by thousands of federal agents.

The American Prospect reported that several Democrats in closely contested districts would be voting for the ICE appropriation. “They’re terrified of being labeled anti–law enforcement,” an unnamed source told the liberal magazine. “They want this to go away so they can talk about the cost of living more. Problem is, it’s not going away.”

what the fuck is wrong with these people?

treeship., Friday, 23 January 2026 03:14 (one week ago)

"They're terrified of being labeled anti-law enforcement."

That's what's wrong with them.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 23 January 2026 03:20 (one week ago)

well, good thing that ICE isn't "immmigration and customs enforcement" anymore

treeship., Friday, 23 January 2026 03:21 (one week ago)

they can't see what is in front of their eyes

treeship., Friday, 23 January 2026 03:21 (one week ago)

Or they are simply proud fascists

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 23 January 2026 03:28 (one week ago)

it's just so shameful. i'm going to cry tears of rage if i think too much about it

budo jeru, Friday, 23 January 2026 03:34 (one week ago)

from black lives matter to no lives matter. the story of the democrats in the 2020s.

treeship., Friday, 23 January 2026 03:54 (one week ago)

has ONE democratic politician at the national level utter the name "Renee Good"?

budo jeru, Friday, 23 January 2026 03:56 (one week ago)

aoc i am sure

treeship., Friday, 23 January 2026 04:05 (one week ago)

and bernie

treeship., Friday, 23 January 2026 04:05 (one week ago)

all the democratic members of Oregon's congressional delegation are more than likely to have spoken Renee Good's name in public within a statement condemning her homicide by an ICE agent. do you really need me to hunt around the web to find chapter and verse to convince you?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 23 January 2026 04:16 (one week ago)

Yeah, it's definitely not the entire Democratic party that's complicit in this mess, just enough for it to be a real problem.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 23 January 2026 04:34 (one week ago)

Every time I see someone suggesting to someone to call the cops on ICE, I really want to know what fantasy world they live in where the cops are going to show up and form a blockade against federal agents instead of just...helping them or standing around uncomfortably

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 January 2026 04:35 (one week ago)

no but a functioning party oughta have a good whip when it comes to whether or not to fund murderous child snatchers who have literally mobilized an entire major city against them, a city which by the way fucking votes for your party

frogbs, Friday, 23 January 2026 04:37 (one week ago)

Absolutely

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 23 January 2026 04:45 (one week ago)

do you really need me to hunt around the web to find chapter and verse to convince you?

what i need you to do is get in your car, drive to Washington, DC, make an appointment at the Library of Congress, consult their copy of the Oxford English Dictionary, find the page with the entry for "rhetorical question," tear it out, fold it into a tiny origami representation of the Statue of Liberty, then slowly, gingerly, shove it up Hakeem Jeffries's asshole

budo jeru, Friday, 23 January 2026 05:30 (one week ago)

I feel like I'm often the one to tell people to cool out and gain some perspective but what's happening here might be the most cut and dry evil shit I can ever remember happening in this country. even the Iraq war didn't feel this morally clear. we literally saw a woman get murdered in broad daylight and then people at the highest levels of government lie to our faces about what we just saw. now they are pepper spraying nonviolent protestors directly in the face and abducting children and then manipulating them to arrest their family members. you can't even appeal to the "well you gotta follow the law" argument because ICE is breaking the law in ways that are objectively much much worse than anything these "illegals" are being accused of. oh they're violent thugs you say? they're just beating up random strangers on the street? god, fuck off. yes I know political issues are a many faceted thing but not in this case. I don't see how you can be the fucking opposition party and not see how big a layup this is. even independents support abolishing ICE by a large margin despite the fact that Republicans have run a full court press in support of ICE across every media channel imaginable and the majority of Dems are too chickenshit to even broach the subject. oh and this is all even ignoring the fact that it's being done in service of an 80 year old pedophile who is absolutely insane to the point where he's threatening to go to war with our allies over the fact that he didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize. the fact that there isn't a unified front against this isn't just evil it's genuinely pathetic for a country that can't shut the fuck up about how special and great they are. alright I'm going to bed before I make myself even madder

frogbs, Friday, 23 January 2026 06:15 (one week ago)

what the fuck is wrong with these people?

money

z_tbd, Friday, 23 January 2026 07:59 (one week ago)

jeffries and the house dems he doesn’t want to whip want to live a comfortable life. most of them had money before (in order to have the connections, at the least, to be a member of congress, and in the rare occasions that someone without money becomes a representative, it’s because they are an abnormal 4++ standard deviations skilled person at impressing people that do have money). money is behind not being pissed about fascism. money is for political stability, just buy the shit they’re selling. no chaos, stability, even if it’s fascism. they don’t want to be poor, or even close to a median wage, and the ones that were there earlier never want to go back.

most people here have money so it’s a losing argument. but i’ve been on all sides of it, i’ve a had some, i’ve given it all away, i’ve made it again, i’ve lost it all by total foolishness, and all the shades inbetween. people with money, even if they think they remember and think they’re in touch, are not in touch at all with people without money, and don’t know anything about them, and are actually horrible “representatives” of people without money. people without money should represent people without money, and that’s completely unacceptable.

just kind of yelling at people with money here, thanks

z_tbd, Friday, 23 January 2026 08:05 (one week ago)

the best parts of the gospels are about this, like, get rid of your possessions first, before anything, as the very first step

predictably, that part of the bible has been dropped harder than any other thing about it. even song of solomon holds more currency to modern thinking - the whole “fuck your possessions, as a prerequisite” part of it is completely irrelevant

z_tbd, Friday, 23 January 2026 08:09 (one week ago)

i guess what i’m saying is, hakeem jeffries has a few million dollars, and like everyone with that kind of money, it’s not enough, because people he knows and respects have 20 million. that’s where his mind is. how can hakeem jeffries make 15 more million dollars in the next 10 years? and by then, the people who had 20 are going to have 50. how is hakeem jeffries going to make 50 million in the next 20 years? these are the questions that keep him awake at night.

honestly the only people i’ve met that dislike this kind of thinking are rich kids

z_tbd, Friday, 23 January 2026 08:16 (one week ago)

and it sucks because the rich kids i’ve met that dislike this kind of thinking have had an incredibly good education and are easily able to annihilate any argument i have, to the point where i’m like “wow you deserve to be 100s of times more wealthy than me and everyone i know!”, so yeah, maybe the philosopher king-aristocrat angle has weight

z_tbd, Friday, 23 January 2026 08:18 (one week ago)

just kind of yelling at people with money here, thanks

new borad description

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 23 January 2026 08:28 (one week ago)

I have to admit, the give away all of your possessions bit of the bible was the most terrifying for me as a kid. I thought long and hard about it

Heez, Friday, 23 January 2026 08:30 (one week ago)

it's easy if you try

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 January 2026 10:31 (one week ago)

Is… is ICE coming for Maine?

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 23 January 2026 11:36 (one week ago)

*Bane voice* renounce your possessions, renounce your family, live in the woods, study the texts, serve god.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 January 2026 12:39 (one week ago)

I rewatched The Dark Knight with my nephew before Xmas and that's a movie that feels pretty fuckin' prescient right now tbh

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Friday, 23 January 2026 12:59 (one week ago)

ah, to be young in the days when people wrote think pieces about whether having a villain named Bane was a shot at Mitt Romney.

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 23 January 2026 14:35 (one week ago)

have been very depressed how nearly every time I watch a video on bsky of ICE wilding out, there are always at least two comments in this vein:
1) call the cops! call 911! arrest these guys!
2) that person being choked is going to sue the crap out of those guys

a friend of a friend got given the bad advice #1 above - worse, they weren't even the target of the raid, the neighbor was, so now you're possibly adding more bad law enforcement to a situation that doesn't directly involve you

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 January 2026 15:20 (one week ago)

Voters Are Split on Deportations but Disapprove of ICE, Poll Finds
While roughly half of voters support President Trump’s handling of the border between the United States and Mexico, a sizable majority says that ICE’s tactics have “gone too far.”

Roughly half of voters support President Trump’s deportations and his handling of the border with Mexico, but a sizable majority believes that Immigration and Customs Enforcement has gone too far, according to a poll from The New York Times and Siena University.

Fifty percent of voters said that they approved of the Trump administration’s deportations of people living in the country illegally, while 47 percent opposed them. The president’s handling of the southern border was viewed favorably by 50 percent of voters.

But after a year in which Mr. Trump sent large numbers of ICE officers to conduct raids in several largely Democratic-controlled cities, prompting widespread protests and scenes of chaos on the streets, a wide majority of voters takes a dim view of the agency.

Just 36 percent of voters said they approved of the way ICE was handling its job, according to the poll, while 63 percent disapproved — including 70 percent of independent voters. And 61 percent of voters said that ICE had “gone too far” in their tactics, including nearly one in five Republicans.

The poll was conducted after the killing of Renee Good, a 37-year-old woman who was shot in Minneapolis by an ICE officer.

Overall, when voters were asked about how Mr. Trump has handled immigration, 58 percent said that they disapproved and 40 percent said that they approved.

The share of voters who voiced approval for its handling of immigration has dropped slightly since the beginning of Mr. Trump’s second term, according to the Times/Siena poll. And the share of voters who said that they “strongly disapprove” of Mr. Trump’s handling rose to 48 percent, up from 39 percent last April.

More than one in 10 voters named immigration or immigration enforcement when asked about the most important problem facing the country today, according to the poll.

Latino voters were more likely than Black or white voters to identify immigration as the most important problem facing the country. But more Latinos said that they saw the economy as more important. Latino voters were almost evenly divided on Mr. Trump’s handling of the border between the United States and Mexico, but they overwhelmingly disapproved of ICE tactics and said that the agency had gone too far.

Rogelio Salinas, a 59-year-old corrections officer in Lake Jackson, Texas, said that while he believed the country needs strong immigration law to ensure that migrants “do it the right way,” he has balked at the administration’s approach.

“There’s a way to go about it,” he said. “What they’re doing is just, it’s way too much, and it doesn’t need to be done.”

Mr. Salinas, who did not vote in the 2024 election, and is not registered with either party, said that he was particularly frustrated by videos and reports of immigration officers questioning people’s citizenship for no clear reason.

“They’re just ‘Hey, where are you from?’” he said. “So I’m scared. If I go out in town, I’m like: ‘Oh my God, I’m just glad ICE isn’t prevalent in our area.’ ”

Strong partisan divides remain on the issue. Overall, 84 percent of Republicans approve of the administration’s handling of immigration, while 95 percent of Democrats and 62 percent of independents disapprove.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 January 2026 15:24 (one week ago)

Trump saw this and threatened to sue NYT over the polls because of course

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 January 2026 15:29 (one week ago)

in that same poll, only 19% of republicans say that ICE has gone "too far." murdering people in the street apparently is not "too far."

treeship., Friday, 23 January 2026 15:40 (one week ago)

a lot of people still un-murdered, so...

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 23 January 2026 15:42 (one week ago)

19% actually seems high for me because most Republicans don't think immigrants are people and thus do not care how they are treated. even the pre-MAGA ones felt this way.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 January 2026 15:44 (one week ago)

it is just one other data point that suggests there is no bottom, no specific crime trump could commit that would break through partisan loyalty. it is craaaaaaazy.

treeship., Friday, 23 January 2026 15:48 (one week ago)

he did tell us years ago that he could shoot someone on 5th ave and not lose support

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 23 January 2026 16:09 (one week ago)

yeah but what about hillary clinton what about obama what about biden what about what about

treeship., Friday, 23 January 2026 16:11 (one week ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oIGV_kxWLY

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 January 2026 16:26 (one week ago)

yeah but what about hillary clinton what about obama what about biden what about what about

do you get comfort of some sort from this nonstop wailing?

WmC, Friday, 23 January 2026 16:26 (one week ago)

new thread title

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 January 2026 16:28 (one week ago)

when fascism came to town, i didn't whine! not like all these other babies. i watched the foundations of the republic crumble away, but my posting style remained serene and thoughtful, and that's what really counts when you get down to it

budo jeru, Friday, 23 January 2026 16:40 (one week ago)

This Wahhhh-chine Kills Fascists

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 23 January 2026 16:42 (one week ago)

Young fascists don't like Vance.

They're still fascists (and idiots), of course.

“I feel like it’s just time for someone new, especially for the Republican Party,” said Alexandre M., a voter in Maryland, who raised concerns about Trumps’s handling of the Epstein files, “because JD Vance was also pushing that as well.”

When the 18- to 24-year-olds were asked who else they would like to see as potential candidates in 2028, they named Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Ohio gubernatorial candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) and Florida gubernatorial candidate James Fishback. When the moderator asked who wants to see Vance as the GOP nominee, just one of the nine raised their hand — and even he later signaled he is still unsure of his support.

...

Asked about U.S. support for Israel, five said they felt the U.S. supports Israel too much and four said the right amount. None said too little.

Some mentioned conspiracy theories — like Candace Owens’ assertion that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by the Israeli government — for steering their belief that the U.S. should support Israel less.

“I don’t know how factual some of this stuff is, but after seeing a lot of things after Charlie Kirk’s death and with Candace Owens’ private investigation, I kind of started to notice of, like, Israel was kind of always a big talking point with the Republicans,” said Richard B., a voter in Pennsylvania. “I personally have an issue with it.”

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 23 January 2026 17:31 (one week ago)

Candace Owens' private investigation

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 January 2026 17:33 (one week ago)

I prefer indie investigations too

This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Friday, 23 January 2026 17:42 (one week ago)

As convincing an advertisement for abortion if I've ever heard one

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3md4bltdwtz2a

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 January 2026 18:03 (one week ago)

so his parents made ... a choice

budo jeru, Friday, 23 January 2026 18:07 (one week ago)

lol yeah why does he even mention Roe?

also his parents are divorced, I assume out of shame for what their union did to the world

obvious old hat (rob), Friday, 23 January 2026 18:11 (one week ago)

who has the eyepatch?

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 23 January 2026 18:20 (one week ago)

Candace Owens' private investigation

omg already had this in the clipboard

a focus group of 9 does not seem worth reporting on, at all, but it was all worth it for candace owens’ private investigation lol

z_tbd, Friday, 23 January 2026 18:21 (one week ago)

another clipboard contender from that

When the 18- to 24-year-olds were asked who else they would like to see as potential candidates in 2028, they named Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis…

hahaa

z_tbd, Friday, 23 January 2026 18:22 (one week ago)

depends on the results of Candace Owens' private investigation

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 January 2026 18:22 (one week ago)

I'm a spy, but on you side, you see?

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Friday, 23 January 2026 18:25 (one week ago)

your

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Friday, 23 January 2026 18:25 (one week ago)

eye patch guy is Dan Crenshaw who I forgot existed

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 23 January 2026 18:33 (one week ago)

This 'March For Life' thing is really compounding the creepy: speakers appearing behind a wall of bulletproof glass that's reflecting back a crowd in gray hats & beanies that make them look like ghost minions.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 January 2026 18:52 (one week ago)

ahh, what might have been

Man accused of plot to murder US border patrol’s Bovino found not guilty

A man accused of a murder-for-hire plot targeting a top US border patrol leader was found not guilty on Thursday in Chicago, the latest high-profile prosecution by the Department of Justice to fall apart in court.

The government alleged that Juan Espinoza Martinez, 37, had offered a $10,000 bounty over Snapchat in October for the killing of Gregory Bovino, the border patrol official who has spearheaded aggressive immigration operations in cities across the country. Defense lawyers argued Espinoza Martinez was sharing an innocuous social media message that did not constitute a threat.

The jury’s acquittal, after less than four hours of deliberation, is an embarrassing outcome for federal prosecutors in the first criminal trial stemming from the Trump administration’s major crackdown in the Chicago-area that started last year.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 January 2026 19:01 (one week ago)

oh so they’re going to prosecute over social media shitposting? can’t wait till the Dems do that to the regime (they will not)

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 23 January 2026 19:25 (one week ago)

this was the (not) smoking gun:

The government’s case focused on the Snapchat messages Espinoza Martinez sent to his younger brother and a friend who turned out to be a government informant. One read in part “10k if u take him down”, along with a picture of Bovino.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 January 2026 19:26 (one week ago)

some incredible photos of the size of the ICE out march/rally in downtown Minneapolis - https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/live-updates/general-strike-rally-planned-in-minnesota-friday-to-protest-ice/#post-update-eba986fb

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 January 2026 21:42 (one week ago)

also

A man being targeted by federal immigration enforcement agents earlier this week, when they instead detained a U.S. citizen in his underwear amid frigid Minnesota conditions, was already in prison, according to the Minnesota Department of Corrections.

ChongLy Scott Thao says ICE burst into his home on Sunday without a warrant. Videos of the arrest quickly spread on social media.

The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency says they were looking for two men accused of sex crimes, one of which was Lue Moua. The DHS earlier told the public Moua was at large, but MN DOC says that Moua has been in prison since 2024 on a kidnapping charge. Officials with the state's corrections department say that ICE should have known that Moua was being held.

According to DOC records, Moua is currently scheduled for release in January 2027, and has an active ICE detainer. DHS officials sought to blame the apparent confusion on the actions of Minnesota officials.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 January 2026 21:45 (one week ago)

some incredible photos of the size of the ICE out march/rally in downtown Minneapolis - https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/live-updates/general-strike-rally-planned-in-minnesota-friday-to-protest-ice/#post-update-eba986fb

― Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal)

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z_tbd, Friday, 23 January 2026 22:02 (one week ago)

jesus fc

Today show meteorologist Dylan Dreyer is under fire after she mistakenly called the Gulf of America its former name during Friday's show.

As millions of Americans brace for severe winter weather, the presenter, 44, took a moment to explain where the catastrophic storm is expected to hit.

During the broadcast, Dreyer accidentally referred to the Gulf of America as the Gulf of Mexico, its name before it was controversially changed by Donald Trump on the day of his inauguration.

The mishap didn't go unnoticed by viewers, who were quick to point it out in the comments under a clip of the segment on the show's official Instagram account.

'It's Gulf of America!' one said as another corrected, 'You mean Gulf of America!'

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 January 2026 22:03 (one week ago)

https://i.ibb.co/nq1mQyDC/Screenshot-2026-01-23-at-4-03-34-PM.png

z_tbd, Friday, 23 January 2026 22:04 (one week ago)

leaving the downtown rally, really great to be there, was hard to tell how big the crowd was in the middle of it

cold as fuck, my feet are numb but overall I layered up pretty good and wasn't too bad

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2026 22:11 (one week ago)

looks amazing

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 January 2026 22:12 (one week ago)

incredible work ums <3

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 January 2026 22:13 (one week ago)

https://i.postimg.cc/gJtzL848/PXL-20260123-205324926.jpg

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2026 22:13 (one week ago)

https://i.postimg.cc/bdcj1TnZ/PXL-20260123-212403233.jpg

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2026 22:14 (one week ago)

https://i.postimg.cc/Rhf0rqQM/PXL-20260123-205552865.jpg

Skyway for the Replacements fans

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2026 22:16 (one week ago)

<3 <3

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 January 2026 22:19 (one week ago)

Kudos to you and everyone else who was there ums

ernest borgnine as pitchfork-wielding pacifist amish farmer (Matt #2), Friday, 23 January 2026 22:20 (one week ago)

from the Star-Tribune

https://arc.stimg.co/startribunemedia/QB2RRJ7YRJBCJMBY6DX37BYQVM.jpg

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 January 2026 22:23 (one week ago)

so great to see

nashwan, Friday, 23 January 2026 22:24 (one week ago)

Hennepin Avenue <3

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 23 January 2026 22:24 (one week ago)

Nice “this what it sounds like when doves cry” sign. Love to see it. Great job Minny

Heez, Friday, 23 January 2026 22:28 (one week ago)

lol I also see a 'Micro Penis' sign

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 January 2026 22:33 (one week ago)

best sign I saw:

IN THE WORDS OF TUPAC: "FIRST OFF FUCK YO BITCH AND THE CLIQUE YOU CLAIM

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2026 22:41 (one week ago)

'It's Gulf of America!' one said as another corrected, 'You mean Gulf of America!'

I work for a magazine published by a member association, and there's an article in the latest issue that refers to the "Gulf of Mexico." (Our copy editor used to work at the Associated Press and therefore usually defaults to AP style.) Sure enough, we got an email from someone complaining about it and demanding we issue a correction.

Venus of Willendorf on Golf (jaymc), Friday, 23 January 2026 23:01 (one week ago)

it will always be Gulf of Mexico, honestly when a paper or anything else refers to it otherwise, all i can think is “bootlicker”

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Friday, 23 January 2026 23:03 (one week ago)

Heck yeah, UMS!

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 23 January 2026 23:14 (one week ago)

ok damn this was huge today

Holy fucking shit pic.twitter.com/clWSnfeY9W

— Fuck You I Quit (@fuckyouiquit) January 23, 2026

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2026 23:33 (one week ago)

man

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 January 2026 23:52 (one week ago)

:)

via Bluesky

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Venus of Willendorf on Golf (jaymc), Saturday, 24 January 2026 00:00 (one week ago)

You're gonna make it after all

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 24 January 2026 00:05 (one week ago)

Next pres should rename it the gulf of TexMex

Heez, Saturday, 24 January 2026 00:12 (one week ago)

What do they call it in Mexico, out of interest?

ernest borgnine as pitchfork-wielding pacifist amish farmer (Matt #2), Saturday, 24 January 2026 00:26 (one week ago)

On January 20, 2025, President Trump signed Executive Order 14172 directing the interior secretary to adopt the name Gulf of America, specifying an area of the U.S. continental shelf "extending to the seaward boundary with Mexico and Cuba."[23][24][25] The U.S. Interior Department confirmed that US federal agencies would use the name Gulf of America from January 24, 2025.[26] As an executive order, this does not compel the use of the new name by non-federal agencies, private companies, or foreign entities.[27]

Kim Kimberly, Saturday, 24 January 2026 00:36 (one week ago)

directing the interior secretary

ehh the Gulf of Mexico doesn't feel very 'interior' to me

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 24 January 2026 00:48 (one week ago)

I don’t think anyone other than commenters were yelling at the weather presenter, right?

z_tbd, Saturday, 24 January 2026 00:50 (one week ago)

I doubt anyone noticed tbh

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 24 January 2026 00:54 (one week ago)

rock on ums!

Hiphoptimus Rhyme (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 24 January 2026 01:08 (one week ago)

seems like maybe some Colorado troops are mustering to go to the Twin Cities?

If the last few months have been any indication, they'll stand around in the cold looking at their phones

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 24 January 2026 01:13 (one week ago)

Soros must be broke after paying for that huge crowd.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Saturday, 24 January 2026 01:43 (one week ago)

There is strength in numbers. Go, Minnesota! you're an inspiration.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 24 January 2026 01:52 (one week ago)

So the 5-year-old kid and the 2-year-old are in the same TX facility now, which has basketball courts, pretty but empty, as seen on NBC Nightly News tonight (5-year-old and his father apprehended, although family says they're here legally, and applied for asylum(Homeland says can't find their applications in system)(this morning on MS-NOw, kid's preschool teacher said she offered to be responsible for him, as did his mother, as did his neighbor, but ICE took him to family dwelling, "to use him as bait," somebody said, but didn't work)(on NGC, ICE said they were taking him home, but nobody would let him in, so they had to ship him from Minnesota to Texas, awwww)

dow, Saturday, 24 January 2026 02:00 (one week ago)

The boy is fourth kid from his district taken by ICE.

dow, Saturday, 24 January 2026 02:03 (one week ago)

"on NBC, ICE said," I meant.

dow, Saturday, 24 January 2026 02:04 (one week ago)

More about the two-year-old and five-year-old: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/2-year-old-girl-father-taken-ice-minneapolis-immigration-rcna55603

dow, Saturday, 24 January 2026 04:27 (one week ago)

Detail mentioned by several other sites:

Attorneys moved quickly, seeking to secure the release of the 2-year-old, and a judge ordered ICE to hand her over to the family’s attorney. Instead, it was reported she was placed on a commercial flight to Texas along with Tipan Echeverria.
(Computer trouble, but that's from Newsweek.)

dow, Saturday, 24 January 2026 04:42 (one week ago)

Thankfully...

Irina Vaynerman, one of the family’s lawyers, told the Guardian late Friday afternoon that immigration officials had since flown both of them back to Minnesota and released the two-year-old into the custody of her mother. The father remains detained in Minnesota, she said.

But imagine the abject terror this poor child went through..is still going through. Jesus christ

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 05:02 (one week ago)

The two-year-old and her father were then placed in an immigration agent’s vehicle, which Kelley wrote did not have a car seat

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 05:06 (one week ago)

Child care experts

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Saturday, 24 January 2026 05:07 (one week ago)

see those 7 Dems voted yes because they care about the children and want ICE to be able to afford car seats

frogbs, Saturday, 24 January 2026 05:10 (one week ago)

something is going down this morning, reports of over 40 ICE and possible shots fired outside of Glam Doll Donuts

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 January 2026 15:27 (one week ago)

five shots, while restrained by multiple agents. murder

bulb after bulb, Saturday, 24 January 2026 15:49 (one week ago)

there is video that I'm not going to watch I think

obvious old hat (rob), Saturday, 24 January 2026 15:59 (one week ago)

jesus

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:01 (one week ago)

Six agents holding him down and pistol-whipping him, and then they just start shooting

jmm, Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:01 (one week ago)

Watched it. Fucking christ. There's just no end in sight

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:17 (one week ago)

DHS is saying victim was armed with a gun and has circulated image of weapon.

Because only they're allowed to have guns

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:20 (one week ago)

I don’t know how many videos they are but I saw one from across the street and … it’s just a death squad. That’s all.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:21 (one week ago)

fuck ICE

budo jeru, Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:22 (one week ago)

pistol-whipping him

Correction, the agent's hitting him with a canister of some kind. I don't want to spread misinfo.

jmm, Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:31 (one week ago)

DHS trying to claim now that the victim opened fire. While being beaten by like ten guys. Somehow not hitting anyone.

Fuckin lying murderers

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:32 (one week ago)

yeah I did watch it, and tipsy is right. it looked like there is someone much closer with their phone out, so there could be more footage, but come on this is a beatdown followed by a group execution

trenchant thought I had earlier: it only just occurred to me that ICE is slang for murder

obvious old hat (rob), Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:33 (one week ago)

several witnesses taken by agents to their Whipple headquarters, fuck

bulb after bulb, Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:35 (one week ago)

apparently they tear-gassed the whole area after they murdered that person, the normal routine of the innocent

obvious old hat (rob), Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:36 (one week ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/24/minneapolis-shooting-federal-agents

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:41 (one week ago)

What the fuck
I’m shaking

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:42 (one week ago)

So i can't independently verify the DHS claim of victim opening fire. The Independent attributed this to CBS and provided a link to their post, but their post did not say opened fire, just weapon recovered.

Man's condition has not been officially reported, but that many shots at that range....yeah. :(

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:43 (one week ago)

Link to a video in that story I don't recommend anybody watches

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:45 (one week ago)

Strib is reporting that he was killed

obvious old hat (rob), Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:46 (one week ago)

Incredible bravery by people of Minneapolis to keep coming out in public against these thugs.

colonic interrogation (gyac), Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:46 (one week ago)

Useless Klobuchar termed it “a shooting involving federal agents” l m a o

colonic interrogation (gyac), Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:47 (one week ago)

Police chief refusing ICE orders to leave murder scene

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Saturday, 24 January 2026 16:58 (one week ago)

Police chief refusing ICE orders to leave murder scene

Has apparently called in every officer. If you had a day off, no you don't.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:10 (one week ago)

ICE kidnapped several witnesses as well. Probably to keep them from speaking to the cops.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:13 (one week ago)

There is a video on Instagram shot from someone’s car of what appears to be the moments preceding the incident. The guy is standing there with a camera. An ice agent walks over and starts shoving him

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:14 (one week ago)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DT5lGwIDsZJ/?igsh=dTVydjF5amppeWV0

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:14 (one week ago)

Presser from local officials in 10

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:19 (one week ago)

i do wish for the death of all these demons

lag∞n, Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:22 (one week ago)

Nazi scum

stimmed hums (wins), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:23 (one week ago)

the worst people

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:28 (one week ago)

just every video of every ICE officer is just the worst kind of weak bullying abusive scumbag now given power

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:28 (one week ago)

Huge cowards.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:34 (one week ago)

the villain of every 80s teen movie now divorced and barred from seeing their kids armed and balaclava'd and getting their rage on

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:39 (one week ago)

The protest is streaming on Status Coup News on Youtube. ICE just seems to be picking random people to tackle and pepper-spray.

jmm, Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:39 (one week ago)

it feels like depite bernice king’s urging we are going to see some nights of rage

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:41 (one week ago)

From NYT

The Department of Homeland Security gave its account of the shooting on social media, saying that it started with “a targeted operation” seeking a person in the country illegally and wanted for assault. While that was going on, the department said someone approached Border Patrol agents “with a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun,” and that agents tried to disarm him, leading to “an armed struggle.” They said an agent was in fear for his life and fired shots. The person was pronounced dead at the scene.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:42 (one week ago)

So now we know what *didn't* happen

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:43 (one week ago)

uhhh yeah I don't think the public's gonna buy that

frogbs, Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:46 (one week ago)

Sadly some of the public will be more than happy to believe that without any evidence.

kitchen person, Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:48 (one week ago)

first of all having a gun on you is perfectly legal in fact you could argue this situation is the exact reason we have the 2nd amendment these freaks love so much

secondly the guy was being subdued by several agents and appears to be getting repeatedly punched in the head *before* he was shot. there is very clear video of this. keep pushing the "I feared for my life" angle you motherfuckers let everyone see you for the Nazi cowards you are

frogbs, Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:50 (one week ago)

"Approached with a weapon", but doesn't say it was pointed at them. Just that he had it

Would be amazed if they didn't discover the weapon until after the fact

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:50 (one week ago)

Thirdly the guy was just standing there holding a camera in the street no fucking gun in sight

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:51 (one week ago)

If he had a gun on him, he did not have it in hand nor was he approaching agents with it

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:52 (one week ago)

"an armed struggle"

Wow

jmm, Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:53 (one week ago)

He's laid on the ground with six guys attacking him. Nobody is in fear of their life.. again. Screw them for pushing this narrative again. They know it will work with some idiots.

My brother in law who lives in New York has been over here to write an article about what's been going on. He was just over there with his friend and just heard the news. He's freaking out as they might know the person. This is so awful.

kitchen person, Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:55 (one week ago)

I mean the cops are clearly not trying to disarm the guy in the video. There's no way they knew he had it

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:56 (one week ago)

Xpost omg that's awful :(

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 17:56 (one week ago)

Please watch the insta video I posted

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:00 (one week ago)

*linked rather, obv it is not my video as I am merely in Brooklyn losing my shit

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:01 (one week ago)

I saw the video from the POV of a guy in the donut shop

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:03 (one week ago)

Do the ice agents involved still get there 40k bonus that’s in the new budget?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:03 (one week ago)

Thier*

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:03 (one week ago)

ugh

z_tbd, Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:08 (one week ago)

Jon that Insta video is the victim before shooting?

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:08 (one week ago)

Yeah apparently

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:09 (one week ago)

I saw the video from the POV of a guy in the donut shop

― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn),

That's the one I watched. They are apparently trying to cover their tracks with witnesses there, but it's too late. It's online and we can see what actually happened.

kitchen person, Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:09 (one week ago)

Jon that Insta video is the victim before shooting?

― Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal)

I wasn't sure if it was confirmed this was the same person.

kitchen person, Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:10 (one week ago)

Police Chief O'Hara pointing out victim believed to have had permit for handgun, and MN is open carry state. So it seems as if he's trying to call DHS's bluff.

This is insane. State and local officials vs the fed government.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:10 (one week ago)

Alfred where's that vid?

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:11 (one week ago)

i slept in late, woke up to videos of an obvious brutal murder, and then now reading this thread and seeing how DHS spins it, how they all do it, just the fucking monstrous liars, fucking scumbags. there is a video of everyone in the area chanting “quit your job” and “ice is criminal” and “murderers” at the ice-nazis on the scene in the immediate aftermath, as they all just stand there, in a haze. the way that, after these shootings, the ones that didn’t do the shooting kind scatter away toward the edge of the frame of whatever video you see of it. and then the one, or ones, who did it, still hovering over, like they must know they’re murderers, but they know they’re on film and so they have to stand there and begin the facade of ‘self-defense’.

so fucking weird, and a bit traumatizing to me to watch, even more so than other police/ice state murder videos

god, i hope this is what brings other cities/protests into the fold though. the people of minneapolis will win, but they’ll target another city soon

z_tbd, Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:13 (one week ago)

That insta vid seems to provide context. He appeared to be talking to the officers not approaching them with a gun.

treeship., Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:14 (one week ago)

I mean, I assumed that was what happened given how these thugs are behaving. I hope more evidence surfaces.

treeship., Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:17 (one week ago)

Talking to them and retreating as they aggressively confront him.

Also the officers don't appear to be trying to apprehend anybody else at the time

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:22 (one week ago)

No they look they’re kind of milling about not doing anything in particular

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:25 (one week ago)

Totally initiated by ICE, I can't even see whatever gun he had if he did, but it seems like he's just filming. If they really thought he was a threat, they wouldn't be crowding in on him. Fuck these guys so much. R.I.P. I'm sure we'll find out more about who he was soon.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:26 (one week ago)

DHS: "The suspect also had 2 magazines and no ID—this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement."

There aren't enough 'fuck you's for this

jmm, Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:27 (one week ago)

vile shit

bulb after bulb, Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:28 (one week ago)

planting the weapon just like any dirty cops

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:28 (one week ago)

I hope every ICE agent a very die

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:29 (one week ago)

Horrific

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:30 (one week ago)

hey palantir surveillance state I to murder you painfully

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:30 (one week ago)

A friend just wrote that watching the news this morning felt like the Donald Sutherland scene in JFK…the news was just starting to break on Twitter and the MAGAs already had a picture of the victim’s gun circulating.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:33 (one week ago)

minnesota is gaza and the west bank

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:33 (one week ago)

Dropsite has footage from what appears to be the POV of the woman in pink.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:43 (one week ago)

um that is not an apt or appropriate comparison xp

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:43 (one week ago)

Washington Post initial write up just goes with DHS lies and makes no mention of video and doesn’t include video.

NYT live update now says : Social media video verified by The New York Times appears to show the shooting from a distance. In the footage, several federal agents are seen wrestling a man onto the sidewalk while at least one officer strikes him with an object. An initial gunshot is heard, and several more follow. At least 10 shots appear to have been fired within five seconds, according to a Times analysis.

The NY Times then follows that with the disgraceful lies from Trump admin about how the fed shooter was in fear for his own life.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 January 2026 18:55 (one week ago)

Xxpost Just watched it. This completely obliterates anything that was left of the DHS narrative

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:00 (one week ago)

it doesn’t matter. a lot of people will believe the lie. we learned this with rodney king.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:01 (one week ago)

Sorry for doomposting

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:02 (one week ago)

national general strike should be in the works

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:03 (one week ago)

can someone link to the dropsite footage?

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:05 (one week ago)

There’s a video on the Minnesota subreddit from an off angle that shows an ICE agent clapping gleefully immediately after the shooting. These fuckers are so geeked up looking to murder people with impunity. This is beyond insane.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:06 (one week ago)

One of them gurgled “nice one” when Renee Good was killed.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:07 (one week ago)

i don’t think they planted it on him, i think he was legally carrying a concealed firearm (aren’t state conceal and carry laws awesome!?), they tackled him, found his gun and disarmed him, and then shot him multiple times after that while he was on the ground, defenseless

z_tbd, Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:09 (one week ago)

Bovine on now to lie his way through ICE side of the story, which needless to say does not square with the videos.

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:13 (one week ago)

Alex Jeffrey Pretti, 37 is named as victim.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:14 (one week ago)

Quick google would suggest he’s a junior scientist at the U of M Medical School.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:16 (one week ago)

From the dropsite video it seems he was trying to help a woman stand up after an ice agent pushed her down. ICE separated them and the murdered him.

treeship., Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:17 (one week ago)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DT52O9REbs2/?igsh=MWk4bDZlaHZvZDZ2bQ==

Drop site video

curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:20 (one week ago)

From NYT:

Pressed on some of the specifics of the incident, Greg Bovino, the head of the Border Patrol’s operations, said that “the situation is evolving” and the shooting was under investigation. He said that officials intend to provide more details later. The news conference then ended.

"The situation is evolving" = "We haven't settled on a story yet."

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:20 (one week ago)

He’s such a little bitch.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:21 (one week ago)

um that is not an apt or appropriate comparison xp

okay fine but trying to express my rage about where my elderly parents (in Saint Paul proper, not suburbs) and my single mom sister and her two kids in Saint Paul city schools who are terrified.

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:21 (one week ago)

can someone link to the dropsite footage?

It's on their twitter feed: here

Kim Kimberly, Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:22 (one week ago)

i get it, and obv understand your rage. i am pissed too.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:23 (one week ago)

So much for 2nd amendment and state's rights

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:27 (one week ago)

I have no more words after watching the pink coat lady’s video (dropsite). There’s no ambiguity here.

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:30 (one week ago)

looks like one the agents disarmed him (hard to see but he walks up to Alex and reaches in and appears to take something from him) before he was shot

brownie, Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:32 (one week ago)

"The situation is evolving" = "We haven't settled on a story yet."

also, "We haven't seen all the citizen videos, yet, so we don't know the best way to spin this that won't be refuted by actual evidence."

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:33 (one week ago)

Local news is examining pink coat woman’s video and questioning the fuck out of the official explanation right now

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:33 (one week ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/coreyoneill.bsky.social/post/3md6xi7ve6k2o

Regarding the lawful gun in guy’s waistband

curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:39 (one week ago)

if the video in question is what I just watched then yes, you can see the grey coat officer take the gun away before the shooting in extremely clear footage

watched here: https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qlvpbr/footage_of_the_grey_coat_officer_retrieving_the/

obvious old hat (rob), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:41 (one week ago)

The action is a little hard to track, but looks like Pretti was trying to protect two other observers after an ICE goon violently shoved them — and by trying to protect, I mean just stepping between them, I didn't see him make any kind of contact at any time. But the ICE goon then lunges at them and pepper sprays all three of them while Pretti is trying to help the second observer to her(?) feet, and then suddenly a bunch of ICE guys are grabbing Pretti and taking him down. Then one of the agents finds the gun in the waistband and pulls it out and yells "Gun! Gun!" And then one of the guys behind Pretti pulls out his gun and shoots Pretti. Then there's like a half-second pause and then they all start shooting.

There's been talk about how it's legal to open carry, but I can't even tell that he was open carrying. I don't think they even saw his gun until they pulled up his shirt.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:43 (one week ago)

They yelled gun and then unloaded

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:44 (one week ago)

Cowardly pieces of shit. Defunding ICE is the absolutely minimum, but if these assholes don't get prosecuted for blatantly murdering people then lying about it then defunding by itself is worthless.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:46 (one week ago)

This seems to be the chain of events. He tried to put himself between the ice agents and the women and then they maced him, dragged him to the ground, found his gun and disarmed him, yelled “gun!”, and then executed him.

treeship., Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:47 (one week ago)

The fact they spin it as he was the aggressor is designed to be enraging. They don’t even believe it. Trump wants to provoke people into attacking ICE agents so he can escalate even more. It’s obvious.

treeship., Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:50 (one week ago)

I don’t know what to do but Trump cannot continue in his position for three more years. This has to stop.

treeship., Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:52 (one week ago)

not sure vance would put a stop to it

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:55 (one week ago)

a pretty well known local rapper Nur-D was taken at the location of the shooting

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 January 2026 19:57 (one week ago)

God, I saw that on a livestream earlier (he's yelling his name as they take him, it matches Nur-D's name.) He asks for an ambulance as he's on the ground, and they put him in the back of a fucking pickup truck.

jmm, Saturday, 24 January 2026 20:10 (one week ago)

The other thing re: the gun is that they said it was legal to conceal carry the specific weapon he had

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 20:16 (one week ago)

NYT has already done an analysis and stated official statements contradict video

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 20:21 (one week ago)

Just saw another video that clearly shows Alex with both hands on the ground when he is murdered

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 24 January 2026 20:30 (one week ago)

if there was a gun they planted it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 January 2026 20:31 (one week ago)

I don't think they planted it, because they seemed surprised to find it. But they had already disarmed him. So it's 100 percent true that he was unarmed, unresisting, and lying face down on the pavement when they murdered him.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 January 2026 20:35 (one week ago)

Gov. Tim Walz said the claim by federal officials that the man agents killed on Saturday in Minneapolis had posed a threat to the agents was false. “Thank God we have video!” Mr. Walz told reporters. “It’s nonsense people, it’s nonsense and it’s lies.”

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 20:41 (one week ago)

Bovino and McLaughlin probably feeding vids into Gemini to try and alter them as we speak

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 20:41 (one week ago)

Walz, you need to call for an indefinite state wide general strike right now.

octobeard, Saturday, 24 January 2026 20:44 (one week ago)

If killing a white man on the streets execution style in broad daylight is justified now in this country I really don’t know what to even think.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 24 January 2026 20:49 (one week ago)

A legally armed white man no less.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 January 2026 21:22 (one week ago)

An intensive care unit nurse no less.

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 January 2026 21:27 (one week ago)

They’re going to have a tough time painting him as a threat. If that even matters anymore since ice will be pardoned for anything and everything.

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 24 January 2026 21:32 (one week ago)

We just had a crew of a couple hundred protestors walk by our intersection on the way to a central meeting spot. They looked cold but pissed. Some old dude down the street came out to shake his fist in counter-protest, then I tried to listen in as he and another neighbor yelled heatedly at each other across the street.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 January 2026 21:34 (one week ago)

Some old dude down the street came out to shake his fist in counter-protest

There will always be some people whose attitude will be 'if you only let ICE agents do their job in peace, then everything would calm down and be fine again, instead of this chaos.' Not much you can do with people like that.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 24 January 2026 21:47 (one week ago)

I couldn't hear what he was yapping about; I'll ask my immediate neighbor, who I think went out to at least try and deescalate. The guy across and down the street is someone I wave hi to twice a year, so don't know him, but but he has an American flag hanging, drives a truck and I think has a kid in one of the armed services, so my armchair profiling identifies him as One Of Them.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 January 2026 21:50 (one week ago)

Charlotte Clymer‬ charlotteclymer.bsky.social‬

Both of Nevada's senators--Catherine Cortez Masto and Jacky Rosen--have officially come out against the DHS funding bill following the execution of Alex Pretti by ICE agents in Minneapolis this morning. This effectively ends the DHS funding bill in the Senate.

lag∞n, Saturday, 24 January 2026 22:07 (one week ago)

Good.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 January 2026 22:07 (one week ago)

It is good but also too bad they already gave ICE $140 billion of which they still have like $75 billion in the bank.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 January 2026 22:12 (one week ago)

there have been 3 murders in Minneapolis in 2026, two of them by ICE

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 January 2026 22:15 (one week ago)

yeah it wouldve been better if they didnt create this police state hand in hand with republicans xp

lag∞n, Saturday, 24 January 2026 22:18 (one week ago)

we're organizing a candle light vigil on our block, there's an effort to do it city wide tonight, I think it's important we keep showing up on the streets in our neighborhoods, even if it's just symbolic to show they can't break us

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 January 2026 22:24 (one week ago)

<3

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 22:24 (one week ago)

I’m sick from this! They murdered another person in cold blood for caring about thier neighbors, it’s so fucked up.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 24 January 2026 22:27 (one week ago)

Schumer of course says less forceful things than others —

Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the minority leader, wrote on social media: “ICE out of Minnesota NOW.”

Some Senate Democrats went further, saying they would not vote for a package of spending bills that includes funding for the Department of Homeland Security that lawmakers are expected to consider next week, ahead of a Jan. 30 deadline.

“When is enough enough?” Senator Ruben Gallego of Arizona wrote on social media. “I will do everything I can to get these goon squads out of our communities and hold them accountable — starting by not voting to give them another dime.”

Senator Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, wrote on social media: “Congress must cut-off funding for these heinous acts now!”

From NY Times

curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 January 2026 22:46 (one week ago)

Noem is now claiming, in all seriousness, that an agent's finger was bitten off during the skirmish.

They are trying to find a new way to spin this.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:05 (one week ago)

Not his trigger finger obviously.

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:09 (one week ago)

The right’s mop up operation is incredibly feeble. There’s now a talking point that because Pretti didn’t have ID on him he was illegally carrying. As if any of the ICE goons knew that before they murdered him.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:09 (one week ago)

Noem is now claiming, in all seriousness, that an agent's finger was bitten off during the skirmish.

My wife when I read this to her just now: "I don't give a fuck if it was!" (The only sane reaction.)

Tell me who sends these infamous .gifs (bernard snowy), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:15 (one week ago)

They had just pepper sprayed him, I think mostly what he was trying to do before they shot him was clear his eyes and breathe.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:16 (one week ago)

Maybe Noem was confused that the goon only had five fingers, since she’s so used to using AI videos.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:21 (one week ago)

In terms of public perception, they're going to have a harder time with this one than Renee Good because complete, unambiguous footage got out quickly and they didn't get AI-altered footage out quickly this time. Likewise, the video contradicts the narrative much more severely.

There will still be bootlickers who defend this on grounds that he "interfered with ICE", "attacked them", "resisted", etc, but I'm noticing the bootlickers/bots aren't out as loudly or as on message this time, though they're obviously still there in great numbers. The press is also essentially eulogizing Pretti in their articles right now, and most have already pushed back on the DHS narrative, much sooner than with Good.

DHS isn't going to be moved by that, no, but getting them on TV to force them to lie repeatedly would get more people engaged in the long-term fight. Also makes it easier to pressure our public servants to act up.

But in the moment...it feels so fucking scary

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:23 (one week ago)

Xxxxpost seriously fuck his finger

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:24 (one week ago)

In terms of public perception, they're going to have a harder time with this one than Renee Good because complete, unambiguous footage got out quickly and they didn't get AI-altered footage out quickly this time.

was there AI-altered footage of the Good murder released? My god!

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:28 (one week ago)

I do think some people are going to hang on to the fact that he had a gun, which makes him seem more dangerous than Good.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:32 (one week ago)

Xpost On revisiting, I might have to walk back AI, but there was an altered video that slowed down footage and zoomed in and sped up as the vehicle approached the officer to give the appearance that he was hit.

This was the first video Trump shared when he said the officer was almost killed

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:33 (one week ago)

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:sefgphqp2xqwh2hawaixykwz/bafkreic24daajkayb72oky2mjlnpa47xn7ebwprgmy2exsavvhwvambfz4@jpeg

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:34 (one week ago)

Xpost On revisiting, I might have to walk back AI, but there was an altered video that slowed down footage and zoomed in and sped up as the vehicle approached the officer to give the appearance that he was hit.

This was the first video Trump shared when he said the officer was almost killed

Jesus. I wasn't aware of that. That's appalling.

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:35 (one week ago)

Tim Pool of all fucking reprehensible people is saying "I don't think Trump's going to win this one." So the videos are at least penetrating into right-wing media space, which is hard to do.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:36 (one week ago)

some consolation imagining these demons down at evil fuck HQ drawing straws to see who's going to be the finger biter and who's going to get bitten

obvious old hat (rob), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:41 (one week ago)

I mean it was a 37 year old white guy exercising his right to concealed carry, that could be any number of conservatives

the narrative def falls apart a lot quicker on this one, for the Renee Good one you at least have to follow which way the car's going and use a little logic, here they're straight up trying to tell us a phone was in fact a gun and that this man was a threat despite being face down on the ground getting beaten by officers, at least with Renee Good if you could argue she *could* have hit him. it's a piss poor argument but somehow it's stronger than what they're trying to argue here

frogbs, Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:42 (one week ago)

one killing can be written off as some random event, two looks like a pattern

lag∞n, Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:43 (one week ago)

Xpost Here's the thing though - cops aren't supposed to just yell "gun" just because they SEE a gun. They're supposed to yell it when it's out of the holster, either in a position where it could be used against them or accidentally fire.

Cops regularly find concealed guns on people they arrest and don't shout "gun!" when they do it.

These ICE agents are untrained goons. One of them saw a bolstered weapon, yelled "gun!", another disarmed him and took it away, probably without communicating it to anybody, so these fucking assholes heard "gun" as in "he's going to shoot" (even though his hands were on the pavement) and shot.

I'm not saying that to absolve ICE...but point out how dangerous they are because of how hair-trigger they are.

Actual police have executed civilians for legally carrying a weapon before. The shooting of John Crawford III was a famous example. They have way more training than ICE, but even regular cops tend to overreact in tense situations and know they will probably be cleared by their own superiors.

ICE get a fraction of the training, most already have fucked up beliefs and wouldn't pass a police psych exam, and have already been told they have absolute immunity (a lie, but nonetheless). So they are way more likely to use illegal, excessive force in mundane scenarios.

(I'm not ruling out them just killing him "just 'cause", but early comments from DHS initially claimed they were told by the officers they were fired at, and this detail was quickly retracted. I would not out gross incompetence past them - it's murder anyway you slice it)

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:43 (one week ago)

*holstered

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:44 (one week ago)

otoh Cops shoot people all the time who are legally carrying because they are jumpy cowards.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:46 (one week ago)

also because they like to shoot people

lag∞n, Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:46 (one week ago)

‘Insane Claim’: Conservatives Call Out DHS Second Amendment Hypocrisy — Amid Claims Man Shot and Killed Was https://share.google/6GozEBkVmJbeKeHzx

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:47 (one week ago)

fuck all cops, fuck all ICE, this is not hard

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Saturday, 24 January 2026 23:51 (one week ago)

otm

Hegseth put "ICE > MN" in a tweet in case you know anyone whose brain is mush and doesn't understand what's going on

obvious old hat (rob), Sunday, 25 January 2026 00:06 (six days ago)

he thought he was ordering a smirnoff ice

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 25 January 2026 00:08 (six days ago)

Maybe Noem was confused that the goon only had five fingers, since she’s so used to using AI videos.

Or maybe she is just used to hiring (or working with) six-fingered inbred mutants.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 January 2026 00:09 (six days ago)

‪Sahil Kapur‬ sahilkapur.bsky.social‬

SCHUMER just now: “Senate Democrats will not provide the votes to proceed to the appropriations bill if the DHS funding bill is included.”

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 January 2026 00:12 (six days ago)

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The man shot and killed by ICE in Minneapolis has been identified as Alex Jeffrey Pretti, 37, a US citizen from south Minneapolis.

HE had a nursing licence and no serious criminal record.

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CORRECTION: he had no criminal record. Just a speeding ticket.

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Trump trying desperately to make everything worse.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonald Trump
This is the gunman's gun, loaded (with two additional full magazines!), and ready to go - What is that all about?
Where are the local Police? Why weren't they allowed to protect ICE Officers? The Mayor and the Governor called them off? It is stated that many of these Police were not allowed to do their job, that ICE had to protect themselves
- Not an easy thing to do! Why does Ilhan Omar have $34 Million Dollars in her account? And where are the Tens of Billions of Dollars that have been stolen from the once Great State of Minnesota? We are there because of massive Monetary Fraud, with Billions of Dollars missing, and Illegal Criminals that were allowed to infiltrate the State through the Democrats' Open Border Policy. We want the money back, and we want it back, NOW. Those Fraudsters who stole the money are going to jail, where they belong! This is no different than a really big Bank Robbery. Much of what you're witnessing is a COVER UP for this Theft and Fraud. The Mayor and the Governor are inciting Insurrection, with their pompous, dangerous, and arrogant rhetoric! Instead, these sanctimonious political fools should be looking for the Billions of Dollars that has been stolen from the people of Minnesota, and the United States of America. LET OUR ICE PATRIOTS DO THEIR JOB!
12,000 Illegal Alien Criminals, many of them violent, have been arrested and taken out of Minnesota. If they were still there, you would see something far worse than you are witnessing today!
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The lies are intensifying.

Department of Homeland Secretary Secretary Kristi Noem: "This looks like a situation where an individual arrived at the scene to inflict maximum damage on individuals and to kill law enforcement."

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The National Guard has been deployed to Minneapolis.

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Ca Governor Gavin Newsom: “Kristi Noem must resign.”

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Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman: “ICE agents are just doing their job and I support that.”

6:42 PM · Jan 24, 2026

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 January 2026 00:37 (six days ago)

Sorry, not sure what happened.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 January 2026 00:38 (six days ago)

From the victim’s parents:

https://bsky.app/profile/jeffrueter.bsky.social/post/3md7iqqr5622i

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 25 January 2026 00:53 (six days ago)

xpost Fetterman isn’t either.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Sunday, 25 January 2026 00:53 (six days ago)

woke bill kristol is a character from some loony comic book

Bill Kristol billkristolbulwark.bsky.social‬

Also, may I say that I don’t agree with people saying ICE and CBP need “more training.” They’re doing exactly what this administration has trained them to—impose a reign of fear in blue cities. They don’t need more training. They need to be ripped up root and branch.

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 January 2026 01:01 (six days ago)

one killing can be written off as some random event, two looks like a pattern

― lag∞n, Saturday, January 24, 2026 5:43 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

the other thing is they don't have ID badges and wear masks to cover their faces which gives the impression they're all the same

frogbs, Sunday, 25 January 2026 01:18 (six days ago)

from a friend who's there

What cannot be erased is that tens of thousands of people marched through the city yesterday. 100 clergy got arrested at the airport. Other clergy sat in at Target HQ (I was there) and at US Bank demanding that they stop cooperating with ICE. We witnessed truly, truly incredible systems of mutual aid and community safety. I am bringing home a lot of learning.

And both on Thursday and Friday I was within blocks of ICE abductions on the street when they happened, but would have had no idea if others hadn't been on the street to witness them. The community watch efforts are so critical.

This morning I saw an old friend who lives here, and she talked about what it feels like to live here right now -- and she's a white US citizen. She said in conversations with friends in other places it felt like they just didn't really get what is happening, that it actually feels like an occupation, a war zone.

she linked to these orgs
MARCH Minnesota - https://www.marchminnesota.org
MN Together Mutual Aid Fund - https://givebutter.com/mntogether

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 25 January 2026 01:22 (six days ago)

That statement from Alex's parents is devastating. I can't even imagine what it must be like trying to deal with the shock and heartbreak, but also realising they had to get a statement out immediately just to try and undo the lies being spread about their son.

kitchen person, Sunday, 25 January 2026 01:44 (six days ago)

dc

🖼

https://bsky.app/profile/musicologyduck.bsky.social/post/3md7ehbhw3224🕸

that must be one of those “professionally made without misspelling” signs that Noem was talking about.

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 25 January 2026 01:45 (six days ago)

xp amazing that the local news read that out

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 25 January 2026 01:47 (six days ago)

even the king of cowards and collaborators is out

Sahil Kapur‬ sahilkapur.bsky.social‬

Sen. Dick Durbin, another one of the 8 Democratic YES votes on Nov funding bill, is a NO on this DHS measure: “I will not vote to fund the illegal DHS and ICE operations that terrorize Chicago, Minneapolis, and many other communities.”

This bill doesn’t have the votes.

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 January 2026 01:53 (six days ago)

start having conversations with everybody in your life about how everything needs to grind to a halt, or this is never going to stop. doesn't matter if it's called general strike or something else

budo jeru, Sunday, 25 January 2026 02:05 (six days ago)

I mean it was a 37 year old white guy exercising his right to concealed carry, that could be any number of conservatives

let me explain something: he could have been a card-carrying member of the NRA and a lifelong Republican and these utter chuds would still circle the wagons around ICE because conservatives do not understand solidarity and anyway there's no twisting of truth and logic that they won't abide. if they can't find a way to make you a martyr, they're going to dispose of your corpse

budo jeru, Sunday, 25 January 2026 02:09 (six days ago)

https://i.postimg.cc/qRGQB2fF/IMG-20260124-203154.jpg

great turnout for our block candlelight vigil my gf organized, -6 out. love my South Minneapolis community

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 25 January 2026 03:03 (six days ago)

We do too ums. Y’all make me so proud

Heez, Sunday, 25 January 2026 03:07 (six days ago)

<3

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 25 January 2026 03:18 (six days ago)

John Mitnick, who once was the head attorney at the Department of Homeland Security in the first Trump administration, criticized his former agency on Saturday night. “I am enraged and embarrassed by DHS’s lawlessness, fascism, and cruelty,” he wrote on social media.

Hours after the Pretti shooting, Representative Andrew Garbarino, Republican of New York and the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, formally requested that the heads of ICE, Customs and Border Patrol, and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services testify at a full hearing. Republicans have been generally supportive of the Trump administration’s immigration policies and have conducted few formal oversight efforts.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 03:53 (six days ago)

Officers can be heard shouting “he’s got a gun” when the unidentified agent reaches into Pretti’s waistband as the pile of officers try to subdue him. Just over one second after the officer emerges holding the weapon, a shot rings out, followed by at least 9 more, according to videos.
Video incl.:
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/24/us/invs-videos-show-federal-officer-recovered-gun?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc&recs_exp=most-popular-article-end&tenant_id=popular.en

dow, Sunday, 25 January 2026 04:18 (six days ago)

dunno if it means anything but virtually every subreddit is talking about this, even subs like "Simpsons shitposting" are like 75% about ICE right now. this definitely seems to be galvanizing normal non-politically engaged people and there's a ton of sentiment along the lines of "every Trump supporter needs to be shunned", people aren't taking this laying down

https://www.reddit.com/r/all/

frogbs, Sunday, 25 January 2026 05:22 (six days ago)

i do think the fact that he was a va nurse and armed and not threatening or defending by arms will reach and move a segment of people to whom i’ve got some exposure.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Sunday, 25 January 2026 05:27 (six days ago)

R/medicine popped off too, for obvious reasons, despite the mods having deemed it an apolitical sub

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 05:29 (six days ago)

A federal judge in Minnesota has blocked the Trump administration from "destroying or altering evidence" related to today's fatal shooting of Pretti.

The ruling comes after Minnesota state officials filed a lawsuit against Department of Homeland Security officials and others in Minnesota’s U.S. District Court seeking a temporary restraining order that would prohibit federal officials from destroying evidence.

Judge Eric Tostrud's order includes any "evidence that Defendants and those working on their behalf removed from the scene and/or evidence that Defendants have taken into their exclusive custody," it states.

The suit, filed by the state attorney general, includes the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office and the state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension as plaintiffs and names among its defendants the leadership of several federal agencies, including the DHS.

The lawsuit alleges evidence was taken from the scene of today's shooting, and it argues "Plaintiffs will suffer irreparable harm to their ability to investigate and enforce state criminal laws and protect the people of Minnesota" unless relief is granted.

“Our office has jurisdiction to review this matter for potential criminal conduct by the federal agents involved and we will do so,” Hennepin County Attorney Mary Moriarty said in a statement announcing the lawsuit.

The DHS did not immediately respond to a request for comment sent late tonight.

A hearing is scheduled on the matter for Monday in Minnesota federal court.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 05:29 (six days ago)

I mean even Tim Pool and the Barstool guys are calling out the DHS statement, once you start losing the support of the most credulous morons on planet Earth you may actually be in trouble

frogbs, Sunday, 25 January 2026 05:33 (six days ago)

Brandon Straka too.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 05:39 (six days ago)

The NRA still blamed Walz/Dems for what's happening in Minnesota cos of fuckin course but they publicly called out one of his appointees in CA for saying that bringing a gun to a protest gives cops legal authority to shoot you. And called for an investigation.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 05:41 (six days ago)

they probably think it's a brilliant catch-22 strategy, turning up this shit until people protest enough for the insurrection act to be activated and then cancel the midterms

StanM, Sunday, 25 January 2026 05:47 (six days ago)

feel like Bovino immediately coming out and saying this guy had drawn his weapon and was planning to kill as many ICE agents as possible is going to backfire, maybe they could've gotten away with it before the Renee Good murder but I think even the usual stooges are scrutinizing the official narrative now. they are losing control fast and they know it

frogbs, Sunday, 25 January 2026 06:00 (six days ago)

ny times says video “appears to contradict federal accounts”; guardian goes ahead and says video “directly contradicts” them and calls noem’s account “observably false”

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 25 January 2026 08:09 (six days ago)

we have multiple videos and two sworn statements from witnesses that pretti was not “brandishing” a gun but nytimes simply incapable of actually rendering a judgement on the facts i guess

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 25 January 2026 08:54 (six days ago)

Don’t look at wapo then

Heez, Sunday, 25 January 2026 09:24 (six days ago)

New coinage for everyone - malicious, lying statements from officials in government which would be perjury if made by anyone else:

FASHBARA

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 25 January 2026 09:34 (six days ago)

I like "observably false", thanks guardian

Tell me who sends these infamous .gifs (bernard snowy), Sunday, 25 January 2026 09:40 (six days ago)

Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-La., called for a full investigation after a federal agent fatally shot a man who was allegedly armed in Minneapolis on Saturday, calling the incident "incredibly disturbing."

Cassidy joined a chorus of Democratic lawmakers raising questions following the shooting death of 37-year-old Minneapolis resident Alex J. Pretti, who was killed by a Border Patrol agent on Saturday. Pretti allegedly confronted officers during a Department of Homeland Security operation in south Minneapolis and was carrying a gun, according to the agency.

"The events in Minneapolis are incredibly disturbing," Cassidy said in a post on X. "The credibility of ICE and DHS are at stake. There must be a full joint federal and state investigation."

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 January 2026 10:32 (six days ago)

I’m happy to see that Republicans and pro athletes are beginning to say, basically, “fuck this shit” in a public way.

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 25 January 2026 12:11 (six days ago)

This guy.

Bill Kristol

Dems should introduce legislation now defunding ICE and CBP operations in Minnesota, so they have to leave the state. One sentence bill. Demand an immediate vote. Maybe refuse to vote for cloture on any funding bills (or other bills) until a vote. Make the GOP Congress break w/ Trump or own it all.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 January 2026 13:55 (six days ago)

That would strongly undermine the spirit of collegiality in congress.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Sunday, 25 January 2026 15:02 (six days ago)



dunno if it means anything but virtually every subreddit is talking about this, even subs like "Simpsons shitposting" are like 75% about ICE right now. this definitely seems to be galvanizing normal non-politically engaged people and there's a ton of sentiment along the lines of "every Trump supporter needs to be shunned", people aren't taking this laying down

https://www.reddit.com/r/all/



most of NFC North Meme Wars is Packers, Lions, and Bears fans pledging solidarity with Vikings fans, it's serious

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 25 January 2026 15:08 (six days ago)

CNN host puts Greg Bovino on the spot over why 'an unarmed man' was shot by agents - Raw Story https://share.google/OAT3UBLhNE7Qsovpe

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 15:17 (six days ago)

The mad king posted "HE HAD A GUN, ONLY CRIMINALS CARRY GUNS ON OUR STREETS, WE NEED LAW AND ORDER."

We're getting a gun ban!

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 25 January 2026 15:29 (six days ago)

Apparently fake:

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2026/01/fact-check-trump-truth-social-only-criminals-carry-guns-on-our-streets.html

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 15:38 (six days ago)

Maria Baritromo of all people just grilled Kash Patel on the administration's version of events

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 15:41 (six days ago)

dunno if it means anything but virtually every subreddit is talking about this

the Genesis subreddit is talking about it, w/r/t the lyrics of the Knife which (I did not know this) was about Kent State.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 25 January 2026 15:43 (six days ago)

it won't be long before ICE kills a child

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 25 January 2026 15:44 (six days ago)

Speaking of Kent State, I wonder if the Nixon admin immediately came out and called the victims domestic terrorists who deserved what they got.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Sunday, 25 January 2026 15:50 (six days ago)

if anything Nixon almost had a nervous breakdown trying to square what he thought of the bums versus a sense that he had blood on his hands. This was the weekend of his infamous late-night visit to Congress and the Mall.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 January 2026 15:53 (six days ago)

the lyrics of the Knife which (I did not know this) was about Kent State

Oh, that's interesting. Obvs an antiwar song, did not know that Kent State specifically was the inspo.

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Sunday, 25 January 2026 15:58 (six days ago)

So the current stance of the administration is to blame local government and law enforcement for forcing them to kill people in the streets because they are not being helpiful like the cops in Texas and other red states.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:02 (six days ago)

It is obvious that they are trying to start a civil war

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:04 (six days ago)

https://www.tpr.org/border-immigration/2026-01-24/protest-breaks-out-at-dilley-immigration-detention-facility-holding-5-year-old-liam-ramos

pretty amazing

A protest broke out Saturday at the South Texas family detention complex in Dilley, about 70 miles south of San Antonio, after guards abruptly ordered attorneys to leave while detainees — many of them children — poured into open areas of the facility chanting “Libertad,” or "Freedom," according to an immigration attorney who witnessed the event.

Immigration attorney Eric Lee said he was at the Dilley facility for a confidential visit with clients — an immigrant family of six, including five children — when guards began shouting for everyone in the waiting area to leave, citing what they described as “an incident.”

As the Michigan-based attorney walked toward his car, he said he heard what sounded like “hundreds of children” shouting, with voices he described as "high-pitched" and "urgent." He said he could see children streaming from dormitory areas behind a chain-link fence and chanting “Libertad."

Lee said clients he later spoke with told him the protest was triggered by concerns over the treatment of Liam Conejo Ramos, a five-year-old who was taken into custody with his father in Minnesota earlier this week and transferred to the Dilley facility.

obvious old hat (rob), Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:04 (six days ago)

Fox News even reporting that Pretti was disarmed prior to the shooting. They're obviously being a lot more passive than other media but even they aren't carrying water.

I still don't see any path where the ICE agent gets thrown under the bus by DHS. Republican Congress is more or less parroting Fed talking points.

But I think they're seeing the people will not tolerate this.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:15 (six days ago)

Well they're seeing people don't want to tolerate this, to which their natural inclination is to tighten the screws even further. What "won't tolerate" actually looks like we have yet to see, because that requires ICE to actually stand down.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:19 (six days ago)

IIRC there were polls after Kent State where a good percentage of the respondents thought the victims deserved it and there were non-governmental groups saying that the crying teen in the photo was a commie plant, but the actual government wasn’t trying to do the actual outrageous and easily falsifiable lies that this government is doing.

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:21 (six days ago)

could see trump giving up on this whole scheme he doesnt like when the publicity is bad and its just steven millers thing anyway

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:22 (six days ago)

They can't give it up though, they're still hiring, it's a massive and massively funded operation. They can pull back on these performative surges of hundreds and thousands of agents in designated cities, but we're going to continue to have ICE horror stories because the machine is just doing what they built it to do.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:25 (six days ago)

yeah i mean give up on putting cities under occupation

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:26 (six days ago)

Well they're seeing people _don't want_ to tolerate this, to which their natural inclination is to tighten the screws even further. What "won't tolerate" actually looks like we have yet to see, because that requires ICE to actually stand down.

Again, my thought that this regime, even in relation to other repressive regimes, is their immunity to public opinion. Like, if you want to hold on to power you have to adjust, even for appearances’ sake. The Nazis were going to begin mass euthanasia of institutionalized people in the 1930s, but there was societal pushback and waited until the war to do it.

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:32 (six days ago)

Hitler obsessed over public opinion through the end.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:43 (six days ago)

Yeah they have completely internalized "we can kill people on 5th Avenue" as an operating principle, and they've been right so far. They can't be changed or chastened, just defeated.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:43 (six days ago)

crazy situation to have an administration of podcasters who think the handful of psychotic influencers they follow on socials who btw are being paid to echo admin talking points are public opinion

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:47 (six days ago)

maybe it’s hopium but my thought is that such a regime is very brittle

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:48 (six days ago)

president grandpa is however still a tv guy at heart

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:48 (six days ago)

yeah I think they'll start caring about Public Opinion very soon

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:50 (six days ago)

This is the guy who stopped talking about vaccines the minute the crowd booed him

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:51 (six days ago)

dying for one of these newly brave tv guys to ask any of the major players if theyre worried about what will befall themselves in the future because of the crimes and provocation

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:53 (six days ago)

we got the dam to break on the Epstein files (not that they released them anyway) kinda looks like this is another situation that's just so black and white that anyone who supports the administration's position instantly becomes a social pariah

frogbs, Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:53 (six days ago)

Trump cares about public opinion - his minions and Stephen Miller are the ones with the steely resolve to be defiant.

He regularly reads what the press says about him, like...actively seeks it out, then stays up all night ranting about it on Truth Social. Like the other night.

He's been privately grousing to aides that his messaging on immigration is getting lost due to Minnesota, which is why he's been having CBP make frequent TV appearances to try and take the heat off.

Supposedly his own aides were scared enough by what they saw in LA last year that they advised him that the Insurrection Act would be a bad move...as opposed to just threatening to do it.

None of his caring leads to public about-faces because those are weak. Most of any Trump retreats are much more minor, done quietly and without attention drawn to it.

Things like Trump implying Good shooting may have been a mistake, DOGE flaming out earlier than planned (albeit after max damage was done), reversing on tariffs/Greenland, etc.

This one is going to be tougher because it's what he campaigned on and it's not theater for his inner circle - they REALLY hate immigrants.

If they feel the squeeze they're feeling now for a lot longer, though, I could see them fudging some excuse and leaving Minnesota and perhaps trying to be less visible. Or trying in states where they think there will be less public resistance.

Which still unfortunately means depriving people of their civil rights en masse. The key then becomes for the fatigued populace to keep fighting even when the public occupations fade. No "out of sight, out of mind". But I think this country has it in them. Or...half of it at least.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 16:58 (six days ago)

and I mean I hate to say this but Trump voters have been conditioned to hate people like Renee Good to the point where they basically dont see them as human but this guy was a 37 year old nurse who worked in the VA who only found himself in this situation because he was trying to help someone, not only that but there's somehow even less ambiguity in what happened here, he never goes for his gun and his disarmed when he's murdered, their only defense is claiming what was clearly a phone is actually a gun, idk I don't think it's gonna work out for them

frogbs, Sunday, 25 January 2026 17:01 (six days ago)

Yeah the administration is filled with incredibly stupid people who thankfully don’t realize they could get more of their terrible agenda through using more subtle means.

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 25 January 2026 17:04 (six days ago)

thing is steven miller isnt trying to reach a subtle ends hes extremely ambitious he wants a fascist white ethnostate

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 January 2026 17:06 (six days ago)

Xpost With Pretti, they will try another lie. Maybe they'll say he made a verbal threat (because of its non-falsifiability).

But with Good, they already had their narrative and never veered from it. They had an altered video by now and felt comfortable saying YES, this proves she tried to run him over.

Bovino, Noem, Patel etc have been ducking the questions about whether the weapon was brandished, when asked, and lately have been pivoting to "the investigation will reveal things", which clearly means they are trying to buy time to find an angle. Bovino actually said something like he wasn't going to "adjudicate on freeze frames", suggesting the video couldn't be trusted, and then said you couldn't prove the weapon being removed wasn't one of the officer's own. That's a hint to where they might go.

Even though there's audio of said officer confirming he had taken Pretti's gun

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 17:08 (six days ago)

Tbh Miller is probably the current most dangerous member of the administration

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 17:08 (six days ago)

KARL: He was an ICU use who worked for the VA and there's no evidence he brandished the gun whatsoever

BESSENT: But he brought a gun

KARL: I mean, we do have a Second Amendment

BESSENT: I've been to a protest -- guess what? I didn't bring a gun. I brought a billboard

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 17:10 (six days ago)

DOOCY: If he was disarmed, is it protocol to use deadly force?

KRISTI NOEM: That's all part of this investigation. They clearly feared for their lives.

DOOCY: What's your message this morning to Alex Pretti's parents?

NOEM: I grieve for them. We can't have individuals that are impeding law enforcement operations and then showing up with guns and no ID

DOOCY: Did Alex Pretti say he was going to kill law enforcement? How do you know that was his intent?

NOEM: Part of the investigation will be hearing from those agents on the ground. But we do not he came to that scene and impeded a law enforcement operation

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 17:13 (six days ago)

This is basically a modern take on the NRA supporting gun control laws in the 60s because they targeted the Black Panthers

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 17:14 (six days ago)

showing up with guns and no ID

Funny that people "showing up with guns and no ID" is exactly part of what the protesters are protesting.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 25 January 2026 17:18 (six days ago)

when you're ICE they let you do it

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 25 January 2026 17:43 (six days ago)

Guns and No ID, an interesting artifact from Axl’s flirtation with Chicago Hop Hop

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Sunday, 25 January 2026 17:43 (six days ago)

One popular theory now is that the agent accidentally discharged Pretti's gun, and the other officers, not knowing it had been removed, thought they were being shot at.

At the very least, this is the explanation we'll get from DHS after the next 10 pivots fail. Because it still allows them to victim blame

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 January 2026 17:47 (six days ago)

One popular theory now is that the agent accidentally discharged Pretti's gun

Trash theory. I find it hard to believe that anyone with a concealed carry permit would carry a handgun in his waistbelt with a round in the chamber and the safety off. That would require stupidity of Darwin Award proportions. So, how on earth would the CBP officer 'accidentally' flip the safety off and discharge a gun the moment after disarming someone?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 25 January 2026 18:01 (six days ago)

Mia Sato miasato.bsky.social‬

I'm not going to post screenshots for obvious reasons but I have been alerted that a bunch of the top posts in r/MassiveCock are anti-ICE now and anyone who defends ICE in comments is getting yelled down lol

https://bsky.app/profile/miasato.bsky.social/post/3mdbadmonts2s

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 January 2026 18:10 (six days ago)

if the gun went off wouldn't that be in the video?

frogbs, Sunday, 25 January 2026 18:53 (six days ago)

he's lost 29 points on immigration since August according to uh...Rasmussen

https://bsky.app/profile/gelliottmorris.com/post/3mdbceb7uhu2k

frogbs, Sunday, 25 January 2026 19:07 (six days ago)

The Washington Post appears to be on the brink of collapse (or controlled demolition); rumors are flying that Bezos is about to cut loose a lot of international reporters, and may close down the sports section. They've already announced that they're not sending any reporters to cover the winter Olympics.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 25 January 2026 19:33 (six days ago)

Bezos could afford to double the WaPo staff, give them twice as much salary, gold plate the entire WaPo building, give a free subscription to every resident of the USA and still be a multi-multi-billionaire.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 25 January 2026 19:39 (six days ago)

Some of this may be well known and apologies if it's been discussed here before but I found the middle segment of this On the Media episode horrifying and illuminating about the apps and tech that ICE are using to make the case that they don't need a warrant. It's an interview with Joseph Cox about his reporting from 404 Media and there are links to a bunch of his stories that go into the info from the piece in more detail.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/articles/trumps-plan-to-tank-america

fwiw I find On the Media to be one of the best of the legacy NPR shows/podcasts, as depressing as their reporting has become

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 25 January 2026 19:52 (six days ago)

Yes. And today, CNN and/or MS Now have been referring to gun being taken from "backside" of Pretti's waistband(he was face down while they were "pummeling" him; the agent reached into the "scrum" of roiling colleagues).

dow, Sunday, 25 January 2026 20:06 (six days ago)

Nurses are striking in SF on Friday, I'm assuming this will be nationwide.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 25 January 2026 20:25 (six days ago)

xpost Reveal is another good show---here, militarization of the police is traced back to Nixon, on the highway to Trump:
https://revealnews.org/podcast/radley-balko-trump-ice-paramilitary-immigration-militarization-police/

dow, Sunday, 25 January 2026 21:21 (six days ago)

(Some details I didn't know.)

dow, Sunday, 25 January 2026 21:22 (six days ago)

Reveal is terrific

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 25 January 2026 21:52 (six days ago)

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/bondi-letter-to-walz-requests-access-to-minnesota-voting-and-welfare-records-repeal-of-santuary-policies/ Also concerned about Dept. of Corrections etc.

dow, Sunday, 25 January 2026 21:58 (six days ago)

Nurses are striking in SF on Friday, I'm assuming this will be nationwide.

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm)

good

vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Sunday, 25 January 2026 22:01 (six days ago)

I think their attempt to extort MN may come back to haunt them.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Sunday, 25 January 2026 22:02 (six days ago)

Continuing to be proud of the most stubborn people on Earth, which Minnesotans are so long as they’re standing on principle.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 25 January 2026 22:08 (six days ago)

nothing ever comes back to haunt then because they don’t even have object permanence

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Sunday, 25 January 2026 22:25 (six days ago)

something apt about the ludicrous military truck skidding along on the sidewalk sign https://bsky.app/profile/dmbmeg.bsky.social/post/3mdbahkestc2s

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 January 2026 22:27 (six days ago)

fwiw

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My anecdotal sense is that something has broken through to the general public since yesterday. I have noted 5 posts on Fedbook from people I know who NEVER post anything they consider "political." All of them have posted some version of "enough is enough."

vague facial gymnastics (sleeve), Sunday, 25 January 2026 22:28 (six days ago)

fwiw I find On the Media to be one of the best of the legacy NPR shows/podcasts, as depressing as their reporting has become

otm

budo jeru, Sunday, 25 January 2026 22:46 (six days ago)

I always liked the local shows in DC. Kojo Nnamdi was the best. Plus old time radio hour every Sunday night for old eps of gun smoke and other cool radio plays. I’m sure DC funding will remain but I assume other stations in poorer areas will lose those types of shows

Heez, Sunday, 25 January 2026 23:13 (six days ago)

Me too Heez! Haven’t listened in forever since I don’t do long drives on Sunday night anymore

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 25 January 2026 23:20 (six days ago)

I got to call into to kojo one time and got to grill Jamie Raskin about gerrymandering lol. Kojo retired tho right?

Heez, Sunday, 25 January 2026 23:23 (six days ago)

I got to call into to kojo one time and got to grill Jamie Raskin about gerrymandering lol. Kojo retired tho right?

Heez, Sunday, 25 January 2026 23:23 (six days ago)

State records contradict what Border Patrol says about the target of yesterday's enforcement operation
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Joy Y. Wang
Border Patrol commander Gregory Bovino again pointed to a man named Jose Huerta-Chuma of Ecuador as the target of an immigration enforcement operation that ended with Pretti's fatal shooting.

In a graphic displayed at Bovino’s news conference this afternoon, Huerta-Chuma was depicted as having a criminal history that includes domestic assault, intentional implication of bodily harm and disorderly conduct.

But the Minnesota Department of Corrections said no one by that name has ever been in its custody, and public state court records show only misdemeanor-level traffic offenses from more than a decade ago and not the serious criminal history cited by federal officials.

“DOC records further indicate that an individual by this name was previously held in federal immigration custody in a local Minnesota jail in 2018, during President Trump’s first administration,” the department said in a press release yesterday. “Any decisions regarding release from federal custody at that time would have been made by federal authorities. DOC has no information explaining why this individual was released.”

Bovino used the example to argue that "choices made by politicians" and "weaker-minded constituents" are what brought federal agents to the city.

"Agitators, rioters and anarchists prevented us from taking this individual into custody," he said.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/live-updates-alex-pretti-shot-killed-border-patrol-agent-minneapolis-rcna255792

dow, Sunday, 25 January 2026 23:29 (six days ago)

Every single thing they do is trash and doesn't add up. Every single thing. The whole operation is like a front. Which isn't that surprising, in fact it's inevitable, because this is all happening on account of a "problem" that doesn't actually exist. There's no way it could ever add up. Though I have to admit the utter incompetence is breathtaking. That's why it makes me insane to hear the context for these killings described as "Trump's immigration crackdown". It's a misleading account of what's going on

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 25 January 2026 23:49 (six days ago)

biden’s immigration crackdown was just out of sight. this crew have no idea how to be subtle.

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 25 January 2026 23:55 (six days ago)

They don't want to be subtle, the intimidation is the point. They're obviously telling them to be as aggressive and visible as possible, they want people to see them. (Just not their faces obv.)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 25 January 2026 23:56 (six days ago)

Representative Maxwell Alejandro Frost, Democrat of Florida, was hit in the face by a man who told the lawmaker that he would be deported at the Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah, over the weekend.

The attacker “told me that Trump was going to deport me before he punched me in the face,” Mr. Frost said in a social media post on Saturday. “He was heard screaming racist remarks as he drunkenly ran off.”

The Park City police said they responded to reports of an assault just after midnight on Saturday at the High West Saloon, a whiskey distillery and bar where a private party was being held.

Danielle Snelson, a community outreach lieutenant with the Park City Police Department, identified the assailant as Christian Young in an email Saturday night. Mr. Young “assaulted Florida Congressman Maxwell Frost and a female who was attending the private event,” Ms. Snelson said.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 January 2026 00:11 (five days ago)

they're not sending their best

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 January 2026 00:29 (five days ago)

Yeah, we’re en route to a really really REALLY weird place.

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 26 January 2026 00:30 (five days ago)

Christian Young

this is just a nickname, I read his full name is "Christian Young Gamer Ethnofascist"

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 26 January 2026 00:30 (five days ago)

They don't want to be subtle, the intimidation is the point. They're obviously telling them to be as aggressive and visible as possible, they want people to see them. (Just not their faces obv.)

don’t they realize it just hardens people’s resolve to resist?

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 26 January 2026 00:43 (five days ago)

In fairness to Biden, they had a whole immigration reform bill that actually had enough republicans onboard but Trump told them all to vote no so he could run on it.

Heez, Monday, 26 January 2026 00:49 (five days ago)

i dont think theres any reason to be fair to biden or any of the other dems who enthusiastically built the police state thats currently terrorizing the country

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 01:03 (five days ago)

fuck fairness to Biden. senile genocidaire motherfucker.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Monday, 26 January 2026 01:08 (five days ago)

.

_They don't want to be subtle, the intimidation is the point. They're obviously telling them to be as aggressive and visible as possible, they want people to see them. (Just not their faces obv.)_

don’t they realize it just hardens people’s resolve to resist?

This is what they want to happen.

treeship., Monday, 26 January 2026 01:42 (five days ago)

Bovino literally is wearing a nazi jacket.

treeship., Monday, 26 January 2026 01:43 (five days ago)

He's just a really big Lemmy fan

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 26 January 2026 01:52 (five days ago)

This is what they want to happen.

Minneapolis is teaching the entire country the methods of effective resistance, the sort that gains allies and sympathizers all across the nation, while alienating increasing numbers of independents and those who are normally politically passive or disengaged. You thing that is what they want? I think they'd much rather do most of the dirty work in seclusion from the public eye, while projecting an image of irresistible force, while avoiding being seen as actively evil and murderous.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 26 January 2026 01:54 (five days ago)

tbc, alienating independents and those who are normally politically passive or disengaged from any sympathy with Trump and the ICE reign of terror

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 26 January 2026 01:58 (five days ago)

they wanted the antifa of their imagination lighting things on fire instead they got a cross section of locals blowing whistles and doing each others laundry

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 01:58 (five days ago)

i dont think theres any reason to be fair to biden or any of the other dems who enthusiastically built the police state thats currently terrorizing the country

― lag∞n, Sunday, January 25, 2026 8:03 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

fuck fairness to Biden. senile genocidaire motherfucker.

― a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Sunday, January 25, 2026 8:08 PM (fifty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Fair

Heez, Monday, 26 January 2026 01:59 (five days ago)

lol, might as well check in with some dems past

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:t46sqvutibvsmjgwn6r6izve/bafkreib2cti6i6obtny5erto6xqj2xuwbo4x77icezp7amewr7eqksejsi@jpeg

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 02:04 (five days ago)

Obama hired Tom Homan

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 26 January 2026 02:07 (five days ago)

Oh I’m aware. I worded that wrong. Just meant to point out that Trump’s a shithead that wanted to run on the border chaos. Biden folded. And yeah Obama was shameful

Heez, Monday, 26 January 2026 02:09 (five days ago)

another great job by all the dems who voted to hand tiktok over to the fascists

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:y77n77kdqzhbg647blkfypyr/bafkreiglc24qrfj2zl46iuuyl7s2pe5ipgbvfuzr2g66kuubovilemmlhy@jpeg

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 02:09 (five days ago)

xp Bidens decisions and staff directly led us here when they didn't have to, and for that I see him as the 2nd worst president in American history, and that's not even taking a single thing about Israel and his actions into account.

octobeard, Monday, 26 January 2026 02:10 (five days ago)

And honestly I don’t even know what was in that bill in the first place so I should shut up. I’d love to hear if anyone was aware and what they thought about it

Heez, Monday, 26 January 2026 02:11 (five days ago)

and then theres his senate record xp

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 02:11 (five days ago)

I’m the only one pissed about Afghanistan. Not that he got us out but it was done very cruelly

Heez, Monday, 26 January 2026 02:12 (five days ago)

xp Bidens decisions and staff directly led us here when they didn't have to, and for that I see him as the 2nd worst president in American history, and that's not even taking a single thing about Israel and his actions into account.

― octobeard, Sunday, January 25, 2026

James Polk is worse? Damn.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 January 2026 02:13 (five days ago)

Lol

octobeard, Monday, 26 January 2026 02:15 (five days ago)

garfield is the worst president for trying to eat food with his butt

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 02:15 (five days ago)

Lasagna

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 02:19 (five days ago)

He hated Mondays, if he hadn’t been assassinated, we might have a four day work week

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 26 January 2026 02:21 (five days ago)

garfield is the worst president for trying to eat food with his butt

― lag∞n, Sunday, January 25, 2026 9:15 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Is this in that new hbo show because I would totally watch Michael Shannon act that out

Heez, Monday, 26 January 2026 02:24 (five days ago)

You thing that is what they want? I think they'd much rather do most of the dirty work in seclusion from the public eye, while projecting an image of irresistible force, while avoiding being seen as actively evil and murderous.

In the pre-social media era maybe, but no one wants to do things in seclusion of the public eye anymore. It’s not like a well-thought out, considered want. It’s not strategic. But they want it all the same because they’re drunk on power and addicted to humiliating and owning their enemies in as public and uncompromising a way as possible. These people are not thinking long term. This is certainly true of the thugs in the street making a big show but I think it’s just as true of the ppl calling the shots. After all, they are being led by our famously measured and thoughtful commander-in-chief, who is excellent at knowing when it’s good for him to resist the spotlight.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 26 January 2026 02:24 (five days ago)

Is this in that new hbo show because I would totally watch Michael Shannon act that out

― Heez, Sunday, January 25, 2026 9:24 PM (fifty-nine seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk first im hearing about the show but it def should be in there

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 02:26 (five days ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_Lightning

Heez, Monday, 26 January 2026 02:27 (five days ago)

shd check that out the john adams one is classic

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 02:28 (five days ago)

they wanted the antifa of their imagination lighting things on fire instead they got a cross section of locals blowing whistles and doing each others laundry

yes, this!

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 26 January 2026 02:40 (five days ago)

I think they wanted, as lagoon said, “antifa” property destruction stuff, which they’re not getting. But they didn’t want to do this stuff in the shadows—they wanted to “trigger the libs.” Disgustingly, their defamation of good and pretti is designed, i think, to enrage.

treeship., Monday, 26 January 2026 02:43 (five days ago)

the right has cooked their brains to the extent that they forgot about the concept of bravery

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:66zrnrnuvwt64rpy6helxxmo/bafkreigt5y53zjtw4usm4sohfa54jtixgsieriy33lspdkdmzuqngkwjai@jpeg

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 03:05 (five days ago)

The roman statue avatars these maga losers use are hilarious.

treeship., Monday, 26 January 2026 03:06 (five days ago)

they are unbelievable dummies

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 03:08 (five days ago)

I am not Spartacus.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Monday, 26 January 2026 03:13 (five days ago)

lol

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 03:15 (five days ago)

I think they wanted, as lagoon said, “antifa” property destruction stuff, which they’re not getting. But they didn’t want to do this stuff in the shadows—they wanted to “trigger the libs.” Disgustingly, their defamation of good and pretti is designed, i think, to enrage.

Definitely. One of the things that really hampers them is that, like Trump, they mostly really believe the bullshit propaganda they feed themselves on Fox and across the right-wing internet. So they assume "violent leftist groups funded by George Soros" is a real thing, and they lay these plans to draw them out so they can fight them valiantly in front of the whole world. And when they don't materialize, they have to pretend that a bunch of liberal normies with phones and whistles ARE violent threatening leftists, and that becomes a hard sell when your guys have masks and guns and body armor.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 January 2026 13:37 (five days ago)

Good morning!

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 January 2026 13:43 (five days ago)

I haven't heard it from local sources (yet) but saw online that ICE have been in my neighborhood and all throughout BK and Queens, and now I'm wondering if I can radicalize my neighbors by next weekend, and how I would even do that.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 26 January 2026 14:17 (five days ago)

i think events may take care of that for you

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 26 January 2026 14:45 (five days ago)

based on what ive been reading about the other places that have been through this starting a very local signal group to report ice activity could be a good first step, im sure someone whos actually been through it would have more to say tho

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 14:53 (five days ago)

Yeah I think Signal might be a step too far but we just started a Whats App group, so maybe we should push to get everyone on that and then folks who want to take a step further might make a Signal. I think levels of entry is important bc a lot of people see themselves as "not radical" and "not the kind of person who protests." I realize that MN has demonstrated that the world has changed now but it may take time to reach people.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 26 January 2026 15:00 (five days ago)

be curious to hear where people are at as you talk to them, to what extent theyve been radicalized by just the news, which does seem to be happening

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 15:03 (five days ago)

why would signal be a step too far? you need to protect yourself and your privacy, so definitely don't be having these conversations via whats app or text

budo jeru, Monday, 26 January 2026 15:07 (five days ago)

What I've noticed is that the rapid response work has been cumulative. That is, from communications to printing and distributing whistles to know-your-rights pamphlets and so on, each time ICE moves on to a new place as their focus, the previous focus stays involves and helps support the new focus. ICE is still operating in Chicago, for example, but while ICE propaganda focus has moved on to MN, the rapid response teams in Chicago are supporting (logistically and materially) protest and resistance in MN, and are likely in communication with teams elsewhere. As ICE stretches itself thinner across the country in an effort to target and destroy communities, one effect may be that it's actually drawing communities closer together.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 January 2026 15:07 (five days ago)

in orbit please share if you hear more about bk/queens incursions - I don’t know where to keep my ear to the ground on this

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 January 2026 15:15 (five days ago)

be curious to hear where people are at as you talk to them, to what extent theyve been radicalized by just the news, which does seem to be happening

― lag∞n, Monday, January 26, 2026 10:03 AM bookmarkflaglink

my mother is screaming about ICE and perhaps only two years ago was reciting watered down versions of the shitty "illegal immigrants should immigrate the right way" received wisdom. the news has shifted her completely

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 15:20 (five days ago)

wild times

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 15:21 (five days ago)

Republican calls are growing for a deeper investigation into fatal Minneapolis shooting of Alex Pretti

WASHINGTON (AP) — A growing number of Republicans are pressing for a deeper investigation into federal immigration tactics in Minnesota after a U.S. Border Patrol agent fatally shot a man in Minneapolis, a sign that the Trump administration's accounting of events may face bipartisan scrutiny.

House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Andrew Garbarino sought testimony from leaders at Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Customs and Border Protection and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, saying "my top priority remains keeping Americans safe."

A host of other congressional Republicans, including Rep. Michael McCaul of Texas and Sens. Thom Tillis of North Carolina, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, pressed for more information. Their statements, in addition to concern expressed from several Republican governors, reflected a party struggling with how to respond to Saturday's fatal shooting of Alex Pretti, a 37-year-old intensive care nurse at a VA hospital.

Trump administration officials were quick to cast Pretti as the instigator. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem was among those who said Pretti "approached" immigration officers with a gun and acted violently. Videos from the scene show Pretti being pushed by an officer and then a half-dozen agents descend on him. During the scuffle, he is holding a phone but is never seen brandishing the 9mm semiautomatic handgun police say he was licensed to carry.

The killing has raised uncomfortable questions about the GOP's core positions on issues ranging from gun ownership to states' rights and trust in the federal government.

Cassidy, who is facing a Trump-backed challenger in his reelection bid, said on social media that the shooting was "incredibly disturbing" and that the "credibility of ICE and DHS are at stake." He pushed for "a full joint federal and state investigation." Tillis, who is not seeking reelection, urged a "thorough and impartial investigation" and said "any administration official who rushes to judgment and tries to shut down an investigation before it begins are doing an incredible disservice to the nation and to President Trump's legacy."

Murkowski called for an investigation and added that "ICE agents do not have carte blanche in carrying out their duties." Collins, the only incumbent Republican senator facing reelection in a state Democrat Kamala Harris carried in 2024, said a probe is needed "to determine whether or not excessive force was used in a situation that may have been able to be diffused without violence."

While calling for protesters to "keep space" from law enforcement and not interfere, Collins said federal law enforcement must "recognize both the public's right to protest and the highly charged situation they now face."

Even Sen. Pete Ricketts, a staunch ally of President Donald Trump, called for a "prioritized, transparent investigation."

"My support for funding ICE remains the same," the Nebraska Republican, who is up for reelection, said online. "But we must also maintain our core values as a nation, including the right to protest and assemble."

Trump and other administration officials remained firm in their defense of the hard-line immigration enforcement tactics in Minneapolis, blaming Democrats in the state along with local law enforcement for not working with them. Many Republicans either echoed that sentiment or stayed silent.

In a lengthy social media post on Sunday evening, Trump called on Minnesota's Democratic leadership to "formally cooperate" with his administration and pressed Congress to ban so-called sanctuary cities.

The White House will likely face at least some GOP pushback
Trump has enjoyed nearly complete loyalty from fellow Republicans during his first year back in the White House. But the positions staked out in the wake of the shooting signal the administration will face at least some pushback within the party in its swift effort to define Pretti, who protested Trump's immigration crackdown, as a violent demonstrator.

Deputy White House chief of staff Stephen Miller issued social media posts referencing an "assassin" and "domestic terrorist" while Noem said Pretti showed up to "impede a law enforcement operation."

At a minimum, some Republicans are calling for a de-escalation in Minneapolis.

Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt told CNN's "State of the Union" that the shooting was a "real tragedy" and Trump needs to define an "end game."

"Nobody likes the feds coming to their states," Stitt said. "And so what is the goal right now? Is it to deport every single non-U.S. citizen? I don't think that's what Americans want."

Vermont Gov. Phil Scott said the shooting was "not acceptable."

"At best, these federal immigration operations are a complete failure of coordination of acceptable public safety and law enforcement practices, training and leadership," he said in a post. "At worst, it's deliberate federal intimidation and incitement of American citizens."

Echoing criticism that local law enforcement isn't cooperating with federal officials, Rep. James Comer, R-Ky., suggested the administration focus its immigration efforts elsewhere.

"If I were President Trump, I would almost think about if the mayor and the governor are going to put our ICE officials in harm's way and there's a chance of losing more innocent lives or whatever, then maybe go to another city and let the people of Minneapolis decide do we want to continue to have all these illegals?" he told "Sunday Morning Futures" on the Fox News Channel. "I think the people of Minnesota would rebel against their leadership."

A sensitive moment for the GOP
Pretti's killing comes at a sensitive moment for the GOP as the party prepares for a challenging midterm election year. Trump has fomented a sense of chaos on the world stage, bringing the NATO alliance to the brink last week. Domestically, Trump has struggled to respond to widespread affordability concerns.

Meanwhile, approval of his handling of immigration — long a political asset for the president and the GOP — has tumbled. Just 38% of U.S. adults approved of how Trump was handling immigration in January, down from 49% in March, according to an AP-NORC poll.

The killing spurred notable tension with the GOP's long-standing support for gun rights. Officials say Pretti was armed, but no bystander videos that have surfaced so far appear to show him holding a weapon. The Minneapolis police chief said Pretti had a permit to carry a gun.

Yet administration officials, including Noem and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, have questioned why he was armed. Speaking on ABC's "This Week" Bessent said that when he has attended protests, "I didn't bring a gun. I brought a billboard."

Such comments were notable for a party where support for the Second Amendment's protection of gun ownership is foundational. Indeed, many in the GOP, including Trump, lifted Kyle Rittenhouse into prominence when the then-17-year-old former police youth cadet shot three men, killing two of them, during a 2020 protest in Wisconsin against police brutality. He was acquitted of all charges after testifying that he acted in self defense.

In the wake of Pretti's killing, gun rights advocates noted that it is legal to carry firearms during protests.

"Every peaceable Minnesotan has the right to keep and bear arms — including while attending protests, acting as observers, or exercising their First Amendment rights," the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus said in a statement. "These rights do not disappear when someone is lawfully armed."

In a social media post, the National Rifle Association said "responsible public voices should be awaiting a full investigation, not making generalizations and demonizing law-abiding citizens."
Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., who is often critical of the White House, said "carrying a firearm is not a death sentence."

"It's a Constitutionally protected God-given right," he said, "and if you don't understand this you have no business in law enforcement or government.

The second-ranking Justice Department official said he was aware of reports that Pretti was lawfully armed.

"There's nothing wrong with anybody lawfully carrying firearms," Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche said on "Meet the Press" on NBC. "But just make no mistake about it, this was an incredibly split-second decision that had to be made by ICE officers."

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 15:35 (five days ago)

youre not supposed to kill regular ass white guys

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 15:41 (five days ago)

nope

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 January 2026 15:43 (five days ago)

WSJ just called for feds to leave Minnesota

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 15:48 (five days ago)

And no doubt go somewhere else to do the same exact thing.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 January 2026 15:49 (five days ago)

it does seem to be galvanizing a lot of older people in particular, people who aren't really plugged into social media 24/7 and therefore aren't getting their marching orders right away even if they are conservative, people who by the way do remember the Kent State massacre

frogbs, Monday, 26 January 2026 15:50 (five days ago)

Bovino might have a stroke if he does one more press conference

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 15:51 (five days ago)

one would hope

a (waterface), Monday, 26 January 2026 15:52 (five days ago)

Is sending Homan to Minnesota a sign that Trump isn't happy with Noem (or more accurately, unhappy that she hasn't made the heat go away?)

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 15:54 (five days ago)

gotta be

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 15:55 (five days ago)

WSJ just called for feds to leave Minnesota

did you watch the video? a delusional far-right fantasy world, where protesters are "lawless" and acting at the behest of a "byzantine" network of secret progressive organizations funded by leftist billionaires

budo jeru, Monday, 26 January 2026 15:59 (five days ago)

i'm not sure what it means that even people who hold these views are calling for ICE to "pause" (not leave), but i wonder how helpful it can really be when an editorial board is this detached from even the most basic facts of reality

budo jeru, Monday, 26 January 2026 16:00 (five days ago)

The unfolding debacle in Minneapolis captures an underappreciated fact about the Democratic Party: It is configured to react in unreasoning rage to everything President Trump does. The challenge of “messaging”—how to condemn roundups of illegal migrants without defending protesters’ lawlessness—is only a symptom of the problem. The problem itself arises from the Byzantine network of activist nonprofits created and fostered over the past decade and a half by liberal foundations and progressive billionaires.

why the put this video at the top of an editorial about "pausing ICE," idk

budo jeru, Monday, 26 January 2026 16:01 (five days ago)

news sites are always inserting whatever related videos in hope of someone watching them

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 16:04 (five days ago)

It is configured to react in unreasoning rage to everything President Trump does.

wonder if this is because everything President Trump does is designed to elicit rage from the left. his entire 2024 campaign was run on retribution and he is invading cities because he doesn't like the governors and mayors and wants to punish them for the way they vote. this is not my opinion by the way this is basically what Trump is saying in public

frogbs, Monday, 26 January 2026 16:15 (five days ago)

did you watch the video? a delusional far-right fantasy world, where protesters are "lawless" and acting at the behest of a "byzantine" network of secret progressive organizations funded by leftist billionaires

And I think we know what leftist is standing in for there.

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Monday, 26 January 2026 16:16 (five days ago)

also GTFO about "protestors' lawlessness", they are exercizing their constitutional rights while ICE agents are flagrantly breaking the law to the point where they're actively trying to prevent any investigation or oversight of their own activity, afaik the amount of protestors and agitators who've had charges actually stick is pretty close to zero

frogbs, Monday, 26 January 2026 16:16 (five days ago)

Yes to what everyone said. I don't think a lot of people here are seeing themselves taking action yet. Too long for here but in relation to their various identities I think it might be a spiral of deepening, like everyone said--practicing the actions and getting comfy with taking further steps. Whats App as a gateway drug to encrypted methods.

Obv this is not the case for already activated groups that folks might also know of, but I can say that they're not operating in my specific little block of blocks. There's an age and social alignment gap where some groups are deeply activated already and other demographics see this as not involving them at all. I'm thinking about...what's the path inward for them?

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 26 January 2026 16:17 (five days ago)

in orbit please share if you hear more about bk/queens incursions - I don’t know where to keep my ear to the ground on this

― duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Monday, January 26, 2026 3:15 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

This was purely from a TT video of someone reciting communities in Long Island and the 5 boroughs that have reported ICE activity. I personally haven't seen any but I go to Canal St or Jackson Heights or Sunset Park rarely if ever. But to hear that there's been ICE in Be-Stuy or East NY surprising to me, though arguably it shouldn't be.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 26 January 2026 16:20 (five days ago)

Judge Menendez hearing underway. I am skeptical that the judge is going to order the removal of federal agents because the legal pretext for it is shaky and they also know this makes it likely to be stayed on appeal.

But it's important to try nonetheless

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 16:23 (five days ago)

Dem House Members who voted for DHS funding just last week trying to walk back their dumb shit:

[img src="https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:ihpglfqq3dapqjmwl2ntktil/bafkreiexs7o4fjmyhnc2664idn4fii3pqqjn3ogypa5uyh4pz6pnswpg4m@jpeg"; /]

[img src="https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:ihpglfqq3dapqjmwl2ntktil/bafkreibxryg32l2h6xxq7ybbctbyqit4cfzjstokh6hvzrvzfyaxgvovte@jpeg"; /]

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 26 January 2026 16:24 (five days ago)

bah

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 26 January 2026 16:24 (five days ago)

"you all shoulda told me you were gonna take a stand, we woulda committed one more no vote"

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 16:30 (five days ago)

don't think Trump actually wrote this but even he seems to acknowledge the dam is breaking and that they need to find a way out

https://bsky.app/profile/ivanthek.bsky.social/post/3mddon4dslw2q

would be nice for Dems to put their foot on the gas, feel like "we got the murderous child snatching goons off the street" is a good thing to run on in 26 and 28

frogbs, Monday, 26 January 2026 16:53 (five days ago)

problem is the dem establishment loves ice its their baby, one of those washington establishment things that they just cant imagine being wrong

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 16:56 (five days ago)

yet another reason why the most important american political project is replacing the dem party with a different one

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 16:57 (five days ago)

what does it say? it's one thing to post "logged-in" only posts on the Bluesky thread, another to post them here, where a number of us simply can't see them.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Monday, 26 January 2026 16:58 (five days ago)

its a "Truth" from Trump talking about how great his phone call with Walz was and how much success they've had in other cities, etc etc, pretty far cry from the "instigator Tim Walz is killing people with his rhetoric" bullshit they were pushing not more than 24 hours ago

frogbs, Monday, 26 January 2026 16:59 (five days ago)

Governor Tim Walz called me with the request to work together with respect to Minnesota. It was a very good call, and we, actually, seemed to be on a similar wavelength. I told Governor Walz that I would have Tom Homan call him, and that what we are looking for are any and all Criminals that they have in their possession. The Governor, very respectfully, understood that, and I will be speaking to him in the near future. He was happy that Tom Homan was going to Minnesota, and so am I! We have had such tremendous SUCCESS in Washington, D.C., Memphis, Tennessee, and New Orleans, Louisiana, and virtually every other place that we have “touched” and, even in Minnesota, Crime is way down, but both Governor Walz and I want to make it better! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP

Kim Kimberly, Monday, 26 January 2026 17:01 (five days ago)

i belong to Bluesky and even I couldn’t read it

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 26 January 2026 17:02 (five days ago)

i read it it was incredible feel bad for you guys

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 17:04 (five days ago)

xpost I’m not sure you can tell that a Bluesky post is limited to logged-in users if you are logged-in, hence why people post them here.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Monday, 26 January 2026 17:05 (five days ago)

so glad that border tsar Tom Homan is being sent to International Falls to finally secure the Minnesota border

budo jeru, Monday, 26 January 2026 17:05 (five days ago)

he'll get to his hotel and get told 'go home'

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 17:15 (five days ago)

"but I just cracked open the mini-bar"

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 17:15 (five days ago)

what we are looking for are any and all Criminals that they have in their possession

A minor point but this is a weird way to talk. Like Minnesota is hoarding criminals and won't give ICE any.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 January 2026 17:25 (five days ago)

the rumor that idiot righties have been spreading is that there are 500-1500 "illegal alien" felons that Minnesota has released back into society rather than turn over to ICE on detainer. this is what we call a "lie", obviously, but this lie was used to paper over why ICE was looking for an immigrant who was already in prison *with an ICE detainer* and putting out an APB on him when they knew he was in prison. this being the case where they instead arrested a man in his underwear who was a citizen and made him go out in the freezing cold not dressed.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 17:29 (five days ago)

its a "Truth" from Trump talking about how great his phone call with Walz was and how much success they've had in other cities, etc etc, pretty far cry from the "instigator Tim Walz is killing people with his rhetoric" bullshit they were pushing not more than 24 hours ago

― frogbs, Monday, January 26, 2026 8:59 AM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

seriously Trump is a very easy mark, you just need to ingratiate yourself to him a bit and he'll maybe even wind up playing defense on your behalf

omar little, Monday, 26 January 2026 17:30 (five days ago)

re: bluesky, i just humbly request that if you're going to post the links, also give a sort of summary or précis of what the links say or contain. don't think that's out of line.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Monday, 26 January 2026 17:33 (five days ago)

yeah or if you can get in the habit of posting a screenshot instead, even better imo

budo jeru, Monday, 26 January 2026 17:35 (five days ago)

i have been c&ping bluesky posts when possible but honestly i might stop now

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 17:39 (five days ago)

Gov. Tim Walz’s office described his call with President Trump this morning as “productive,” saying the president agreed to ensure that the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension is able to conduct an independent investigation of the shooting of Alex Pretti by Border Patrol agents, reversing the administration’s previous refusal to share evidence. And Trump agreed to consider reducing the number of federal agents in Minnesota, the governor’s office said, and to work with the state in a more coordinated fashion on immigration enforcement regarding violent criminals.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 17:41 (five days ago)

there's a wide gulf between him promising to allow them to be part of the investigation and it actually happening, but...I can't imagine Noem/Bovino/etc are going to be thrilled about this reversal

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 17:43 (five days ago)

its all just pretext for ending the occupation

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 17:45 (five days ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3mddsnznkd22x

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 17:54 (five days ago)

Republican calls are growing for a deeper investigation into fatal Minneapolis shooting of Alex Pretti

Pretti's murder feels a bit similar to the Epstein files debacle in terms of why it is biting deeper into Trump's support than shit like the Greenland power grab. The key factor is that Pretti was a 'concealed carry' guy doing exactly what a few million deep-dyed NRA gun rights people do every day of their lives and now Bovino, Noem, and Patel (maybe Trump, too) are trying to blame Pretti for his own death on that basis which goes straight to the heart of their fears of "jack-booted thugs" and black helicopters. The more they try this, the worse it will be for them. The Republicans who have to win these votes are very aware of this dynamic and don't want to be crucified as anti-gun.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:05 (five days ago)

they don't really have a reason to complain since MAGAs who want to do an insurrection or shoot a couple of leftist protestors are clearly protected

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:10 (five days ago)

inshallah they are put out of their misery by the st paul liberation front

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 18:20 (five days ago)

As a former Special Forces Warrant Officer, I am understandably cozy with killing people and saying they had a gun after the fact

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:22 (five days ago)

I read that and thought, is that bad?

obvious old hat (rob), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:23 (five days ago)

lol

This is what happens when a Call of Duty loadout, a LinkedIn bio, and a ChatGPT prompt have a baby.
Point by point, let’s burn this to the ground:
1. “I infiltrated Signal groups”
No screenshots. No logs. No leaks. No arrests.
“Infiltration” without receipts is just lying on the…

— Jasen Cartwright Independent for Congress MI-09 (@JforMichigan) January 26, 2026

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:23 (five days ago)

xp Uh yeah that's just good project management and resource mobilization. Once again proving my point in life that everything is project management.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:25 (five days ago)

since at least 1977, the NRA has been a fascist organization that promotes a fascist ideology, which means that switching up the rules to hypocritically exclude allegedly "liberal" gun owners will always be paramount to defending constitutional rights in a consistent or logical way. compounding this, MAGA derives a significant amount of its appeal and its power from its willingness to state obvious falsehoods as truth, which far from garnering a negative reaction serves to invite its core adherents further into the fold: we are the masters of reality now, and if you repeat these lies along with us, you will be among the chosen. so the question isn't so much about exposing hypocrisy as it is about the diminishing returns that adherents find in repeating talking talking points that are obvious distortions in exchange for membership within a protected class. the cockroaches will scatter when it's convenient for them -- and they always have, in small groups -- but i don't think we're at a watershed moment quite yet

budo jeru, Monday, 26 January 2026 18:25 (five days ago)

lmao

Signal groups at 1,000-member cap per zone. Dedicated roles: mobile chasers, plate checkers logging vehicle data into shared databases, 24/7 dispatch nodes vectoring assets, SALUTE-style reporting (Size, Activity, Location, Unit, Time, Equipment) on suspected federal vehicles. Daily chat rotations and timed deletions to frustrate forensic recovery. Vetting processes for new joiners. Mutual aid from sympathetic locals (teachers providing cover, possible PD tip-offs on license plate lookups). Home-base coordination points. Rapid escalation from observation to physical obstruction—or worse.

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 18:26 (five days ago)

fwiw Nate Silver says Renee Good's murder had already "stuck" in public opinion and was driving up opposition to ICE even before Pretti's murder. Trump's now nearly as underwater on immigration as he is in general.

https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-is-losing-normies-on-immigration

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:28 (five days ago)

does he provide a roadmap on how to monetize that via online gambling tho

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 18:29 (five days ago)

I'm already on a "spotting" Signal group for another community and it's sooooo chaotic and has been hard to use. Mostly people join it and then leave again afaict. Like anything else it's going to require good management and planning.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:29 (five days ago)

wish he was underwater for real

xxp

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:30 (five days ago)

The second poll, which surveyed Americans on Sunday, showed that 48% of respondents believe the killing of Pretti in Minneapolis was not justified, while 20% said the opposite. The gap is larger among the 58% of Americans who have seen video footage of the shooting: 63% say the shooting was not justified, while 25% say it was justified.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:32 (five days ago)

Like anything else it's going to require good management and planning.

― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, January 26, 2026 1:29 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it is funny how the tactical geared up government chuds are getting undone by strategic/logistical neighborhood committees, just military stuff

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 18:42 (five days ago)

I read that and thought, is that bad?

lol me too

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:42 (five days ago)

signal group chat making that vet on twitter think hes looking at a well funded cabal of elite operators

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 18:43 (five days ago)

Hey, that sweet sweet Soros money goes a long way.

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:44 (five days ago)

these people are so fuckin sad man

🖼

additional lol: that bullshit thread was retweeted by the palantir guy

these people are incredibly stupid

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:46 (five days ago)

It's absolutely wild that these guys keep managing to kill people with names like "Good" and "Pretty"

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:46 (five days ago)

next they’ll kill Bib Hope

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:50 (five days ago)

(Bob’s cousin)

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:51 (five days ago)

As she grilled lawyers for the state of Minnesota, U.S. District Judge Katherine Menendez expressed continued skepticism that she has the authority to curtail the Trump administration’s immigration enforcement surge.

It’s clear Minnesota has “one set of values” while the administration has another, Menendez said. “We’re at risk of asking me to decide who is right here.”

God forbid a federal judge should be asked to adjudicate who's right.

WmC, Monday, 26 January 2026 18:51 (five days ago)

xp also 37

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 26 January 2026 18:52 (five days ago)

There's a good Bluesky thread going about how "advanced tactical planning" alarmism just shows that they don't understand or appreciate women's labor. How do they think birthday parties happen? Or any holiday celebrations, or a school event or a family play date? Ordering supplies from the internet and coordinating when and where they arrive and who will receive them is rookie stuff.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 26 January 2026 18:58 (five days ago)

def something that peppers are all guys who cant cook a bean

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:00 (five days ago)

God forbid a federal judge should be asked to adjudicate who's right.

the issue is more "how can I issue a ruling that won't be abruptly stayed 5 minutes later". a much less sweeping ruling from the same judge was immediately halted by the 8th Circuit (the one that prevented ICE from using tear gas/etc), which allowed ICE to resume doing that with little interruption.

our legal system wasn't built to withstand the Federal government abdicating its duties re: the law

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 19:10 (five days ago)

XPS This bluesky thread?: https://bsky.app/profile/sarahjeong.bsky.social/post/3mdbxlkkbx222

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 26 January 2026 19:13 (five days ago)

genuine lol at: Kirkland isn't a store brand, but a secretive communist sect.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:18 (five days ago)

lmao at that nerd calling MN an insurgency. Sure, dude, it's the people of MN rising up to stop masked goons from killing and kidnapping them at will, sounds about right. Thank god ICE was sent in there to keep that failed state from falling apart.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:19 (five days ago)

everything else aside its just funny to look at a box of handwarmers that has free written on the lid and post this is some pro shit man, obvs these guys are doing it for the clout but it just makes them look like fools

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:21 (five days ago)

and if Trump is leaving now that means the insurgency....succeeded.

ouch buddy

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 19:21 (five days ago)

Ted Cruz warned Donald Trump, his fellow Republican, that he would face a “bloodbath” in the November midterm elections if prices continued to rise, prompting the president to respond, “fuck you, Ted,” the US senator told donors, according to a secret recording of the private conversation obtained by Axios.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:27 (five days ago)

I used to think a lot of these right wing weirdos were just cynical. And they are that, but not just that, they are also astoundingly stupid and shot-sighted and selfish. Like, they have no idea how the country works, let alone other countries. They don't know what people do for a living, or what their spouses do around the house, or how hard most people work just to achieve a fraction of what they take for granted. They have no idea how money or budgets work or are supposed to work. These are the ill-informed dimwits that would commute into NYC in their giant heli-cars or whatever and then complain about the cost of gas while they fill their trunk with lobster tails. They have no self-awareness at all that they and their lame problems are luxury outliers, and that being able to complain about such small potato problems at all is just another facet of their astounding baked-in privilege. Like, the dorks complaining about paid protestors or whatever? They truly don't understand the concepts of empathy or courage or generosity or sacrifice, or why anyone would choose to do anything at all at any personal cost, let alone for the sake of a stranger or neighbor.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:28 (five days ago)

lmao credit where its due xp

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:29 (five days ago)

xxpost How many times a week do you think Ted Cruz hears someone say "fuck you, Ted"? He probably hears it every day from his kids alone.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:30 (five days ago)

I could just see some well-meaning MN mom thinking 'I'll bring this box of hand warmers to the protest, I'll bet it's gonna be cold' but the chuds read it is "having just read Che Guevara's manual on urban guerilla warfare and tactical logistics, I better order these hand warmers so my fellow street fighters will retain use of their trigger fingers.. Soros will reimburse me"

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:37 (five days ago)

someone had to carry the box there and write free on the lid, furthermore they had to acquire the box and its contents at some point, do you have any idea how hard that is

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:40 (five days ago)

how did they even get the marker to write free

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:41 (five days ago)

who provided the $28 to purchase the handwarmers

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:43 (five days ago)

who provided the $28 to purchase the handwarmers

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:43 (five days ago)

i just think men in general are pretty stupid and if they can't think something through they assume conspiracy

a (waterface), Monday, 26 January 2026 19:45 (five days ago)

not me im very smart i could easily acquire a box of handwarmers by googling it and then clicking the paypal button

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:46 (five days ago)

or if they can't figure out, how, say, disease eradication works, (instead of assuming that scientists have studied disease for years and have vaccines pretty well figured out) they stupid their way to the top of the HHS

a (waterface), Monday, 26 January 2026 19:46 (five days ago)

i saw someone yesterday (Bondi?) asking HOW DO THESE INSURGENTS GET 3M FACE MASKS when fucking Uline sells them

a (waterface), Monday, 26 January 2026 19:47 (five days ago)

Hahha yes that one.

They wouldn't be able to understand the decentralized logistics of a child's lemonade stand, much less food distributions that feed thousands of people a month (or a week!) where everyone shows up for 2 hours, food is delivered, given, then everyone cleans up and goes home. Whoever said "They think everything is orders from above" was otm. Sure, plenty of events do have central planning...but if you practice anything enough it becomes automatic; or in other words you just trained a bunch of people in how to do that thing and now they're ready to be leaders in doing it again.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 26 January 2026 19:48 (five days ago)

Meanwhile the entire administration is literally actually bankrolled by billionaires but nm about that

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 January 2026 19:56 (five days ago)

HOW DO THESE INSURGENTS GET 3M FACE MASKS

Furthermore 3M stands for Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing Company

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:57 (five days ago)

they probably mined the facemask, elite mining op

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 19:58 (five days ago)

Oh please, all the women in my mom's church get eggs from the same lady who has chickens...she brings the eggs to church and puts them in a fridge and everyone picks theirs up and leaves money. There's no boss. No one is in charge. It's free association and participation in co-created systems. Absolutely fucking spare me.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 26 January 2026 19:58 (five days ago)

(an aside, but fuck Uline and don't give those scum business)

bulb after bulb, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:00 (five days ago)

hard agree^^^^

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:00 (five days ago)

i used Uline as an example b/c they are right wing

a (waterface), Monday, 26 January 2026 20:01 (five days ago)

like it's not some leftist commerce websites hording masks

a (waterface), Monday, 26 January 2026 20:01 (five days ago)

no that's Kirkland

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:05 (five days ago)

I don’t think Trump should be able to “back out” of this.

treeship., Monday, 26 January 2026 20:15 (five days ago)

Gah, even the mask shit is sooooo dishonest, so disingenuous.

Covid: Fuck you, I won't wear a mask, it's infringing on my rights!!!!!
"Post" Covid: You libs can't wear a mask, either, you must stop, wearing a mask is now illegal!
ICE: We must wear masks for safety and to protect our anonymity!
Also ICE: But *you* can't wear masks for safety or to protect your anonymity!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:19 (five days ago)

do you mean to tell me that maga creeps aren’t being intellectually consistent in their beliefs

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:27 (five days ago)

lolll

budo jeru, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:34 (five days ago)

one con leads to another

budo jeru, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:34 (five days ago)

monarch of ashes‬ cephalopod.bsky.social‬

selling people low quality garbage and arguing "well no one else is gonna offer you anything better..."

she was destined to be an elected democrat

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:35 (five days ago)

xp the paid protestors thing is just a quick and easy way of handwaving away/minimizing/invalidating the protestors’ entire position. Also a way of reassuring their base that no, you don’t actually have to consider the viewpoint of the other side, the other side doesn't even have a viewpoint, this is just theater, no need to break your brains trying to have empathy. And also it’s pure projection, another accusation that is just a confession. The right absolutely uses paid protestors/agitators and astroturfing as a tactic.

epistantophus, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:36 (five days ago)

my apologies to RepMGP, I momentarily confused her with the scammy rep from Florida

if your representative is Glue, her dog be blue

if your representative is Luna, her grandpa was in the wehrmacht

mh, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:39 (five days ago)

xp Uh yeah that's just good project management and resource mobilization. Once again proving my point in life that everything is project management.

― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, January 26, 2026 1:25 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is seriously one of my strongest beliefs. Signed former project manager

Heez, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:39 (five days ago)

sorry guys but the revolution will not be scrummed

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:41 (five days ago)

MGP

Candidate from the Stemocrat Party

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 26 January 2026 20:42 (five days ago)

The right absolutely uses paid protestors/agitators and astroturfing as a tactic.

― epistantophus, Monday, January 26, 2026 3:36 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

whole damn thing is astroturfed everyone from podcaster to senator is getting that sweet billionaire cash, they cant imagine anyone would be different

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:42 (five days ago)

we truly are in the "I just do stuff" era, unfortunately. or "I just ask a robot"

the underlying ethos of "no one knows more than me. there are no experts" is kind of wild. just watching little videos online without evaluating whether the speaker actually knows what they're talking about, asking the robot without double-checking, etc.

mh, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:44 (five days ago)

Wingnut welfare!

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 26 January 2026 20:45 (five days ago)

tbf its not like our elites/experts have done nothing to make people question them

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:46 (five days ago)

Being reported that Bovino is leaving MN. But really, who gives a shit? What the fuck difference does that make? He is always leaving places, and then going somewhere else, and then coming back, and then doing an SS glam shot for Dipshit Monthly or whatever. The pressure needs to stay on his smug fucking face until he is in jail.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:47 (five days ago)

*hanging high

budo jeru, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:52 (five days ago)

sorry guys but the revolution will not be scrummed

― lag∞n, Monday, January 26, 2026 3:41 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It’s actually why I don’t believe in revolution. You build off (sorry) the lessons learned. It’s why trumps doing so bad. They completely ignore things that were decided by our elders, like a non partisan govt workforce. They ignore all the things that we all know were positive changes. But yeah, this does ignore the political side of things

Heez, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:54 (five days ago)

he needs to leave this earthly plane, not just MN

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 26 January 2026 20:56 (five days ago)

One thing that pissed me off about Biden was that bridge collapse in Philly. They knocked that shit out of the park. There should have parades for those ppl. One of the main things they did right was cutting through the bureaucratic bullshit which is what every good PM should know how to do

Heez, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:57 (five days ago)

one can dream

“We lost all trust,” one current ICE official said. “I’m not sure I can see how we exist three years from now.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/26/us/politics/ice-border-patrol-trust.html?unlocked_article_code=1.HVA.nCGX.g-3-SnHvLfEP

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 20:57 (five days ago)

I think what will happen short-term is they will draw down the Minneapolis surge and declare MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, and then double down on prosecuting the church protesters and investigating Frey and Walz and seeing if there's anyone left to charge in the fraud cases, keep pumping out DOJ press releases about fraud and violent rioters in Minnesota. And if they manage to not murder anyone else for six weeks or so and don't do this insane occupation thing and go back to roving squads of a few dozen rounding people up here and there, they're hoping that things can simmer down without interfering too much with disappearing thousands of people. Because they're sincere about the deportation too, it's not just a cover for military occupation. And now the occupy-blue-cities part of the agenda is interfering with the disappear-immigrants part of it, so it makes sense to pull back on that part.

The flipside of that is that they have MURDERED PEOPLE, and there's going to be ongoing calls for justice and for somebody to be held accountable. The critical normie mass that seems to have arisen after two murders in a row will subside a bit, sure, but the sizable activist base will not, and Democrats are in an election year where voters should be making them take real stands on all of this. So I don't see it just fading away. Plus also, I'm not at all sure they can keep ICE from murdering people at this point even if they half-heartedly try.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 January 2026 20:58 (five days ago)

big question is does trump really care about the deportations maybe hes just like fuck it make this bad pr go away, worth noting too that their deportation plan isnt really working theyre putting all this money effort and reputation into it and not getting that much out

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 21:06 (five days ago)

I'm seeing MAGA people tryin to do a gotcha by claiming that Obama and Biden deported people at a greater rate than Trump is, dunno if it's true but I wouldn't be surprised, above all else everyone in this administration is just really bad at their job

frogbs, Monday, 26 January 2026 21:14 (five days ago)

yeah i dont think theyre releasing reliable numbers so its hard to say but it doesnt seem like theyre getting the exponential increase they want, or for that matter the civil war that some of them want

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 21:16 (five days ago)

admitting that Obama was better at being a cruel xenophobic bastard than Trump is certainly a weird species of self-own

budo jeru, Monday, 26 January 2026 21:19 (five days ago)

the defensive style in dem politics

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 21:23 (five days ago)

well I think a lot of the people they're currently detaining are either actual citizens, green card holders, asylum seekers or others here legally

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 26 January 2026 21:25 (five days ago)

i just mean as an argument, it's like saying yeah i know Trump's tactics are messy, disruptive, and deeply unpopular, but at least they're nowhere as effective as Obama at achieving our stated ethnic cleansing goals!

budo jeru, Monday, 26 January 2026 21:27 (five days ago)

as usual it just comes down to these people being big dummies who think there's a list of 20 million undocuments folks out there with names and addresses and it would be easy to just snap your fingers and make them all leave. Trump himself kept going on and on about how simple it would be and that the only reason it hasn't happened is because they vote Democrat, even though they can't vote. why he didn't just do this in his first term is anyone's guess but these people aren't really known for their logical thinking skills

frogbs, Monday, 26 January 2026 21:36 (five days ago)

no one has seriously tried to tackle immigration as a whole and I think there's the possibility for a broad consensus but I think no one attempts it because "the last guy fucked up border enforcement, I will make a show of getting it right" is the only refrain anyone has

I don't think anyone would debate that my friends who have worked with me for a decade and been in the US even longer, or the people working in healthcare who have been at it just as long, are not essential to communities and shouldn't be filing a three inch stack of paperwork every year with the possibility of getting a green card in twenty years but here we are

mh, Monday, 26 January 2026 21:38 (five days ago)

There were people around to talk Trump out of a few of his stupid ideas first term

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Monday, 26 January 2026 21:39 (five days ago)

https://www.pressherald.com/2026/01/23/ice-watchers-in-maine-say-they-were-threatened-by-federal-agents/

obvious old hat (rob), Monday, 26 January 2026 21:40 (five days ago)

The Justice Department has formally withdrawn its request for the chief federal judge in Minnesota to issue arrest warrants for the journalist Don Lemon and four other people in connection with a protest at a church in St. Paul, Minn., earlier this month. It remains unclear whether prosecutors will now seek to take a different tack and try to secure an indictment against Lemon and the other targets of the inquiry.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 21:41 (five days ago)

and more generally on Maine operations: https://www.pressherald.com/2026/01/21/ice-confirms-operations-in-maine-as-arrests-ramp-up/

obvious old hat (rob), Monday, 26 January 2026 21:42 (five days ago)

frogbs, they don't even give a shit about whether someone's documented. they're, no hyperbole, just scooping up brown people and questioning/detaining them. the high profile legal immigrant cases have gotten coverage, but not so much the people who make it out within 24 hours. some of those documented immigrants are getting deported, no doubt

my friend's one step away from someone who got scooped up over a week ago. south asian guy in Minnesota just minding his own business, and they questioned him for four hours only to begrudgingly admit he's a valid H1-B holder

after watching people submit paperwork after paperwork just to maintain legal immigration status only to get fucked with, I've pretty much gone insane

mh, Monday, 26 January 2026 21:49 (five days ago)

it made it to published articles that ice ate at a mexican restaurant in minnesota and then arrested the staff, which is both cruel and dumb, but that was not the only time they did it. they just arrested the staff at a mexican restaurant where my parents live two weeks ago, not even sure if it made the local news

mh, Monday, 26 January 2026 21:52 (five days ago)

I think the Obama line is technically true, but it’s also an example of Obama trying to look like a responsible adult who’s securing the border while pleasing no one. IIRC they changed the definition of deportation to include people picked up while trying to cross illegally and returned without detention or a court date. So facts on the ground didn’t change much, Obama’s numbers look huge (pissing off immigration activists), but it’s not like Fox News was ever going to change their narrative about Obama letting in illegals.

JoeStork, Monday, 26 January 2026 21:52 (five days ago)

big question is does trump really care about the deportations maybe hes just like fuck it make this bad pr go away

I think Trump cares about the deportations — his entire political career is built on promising violence against brown-skinned immigrants, he's a serious and sincere racist and racists get off on that. But he doesn't care as much as Miller, who's the one setting the insane quotas that are driving a lot of this insane behavior. Absent a significant sidelining of Miller, the deportation machine will keep running. Plus they've got all these new agents and they're building new detention centers, there's a lot invested in this already and people standing to make bank off it.

And yeah, ICE apologists have suddenly discovered the Obama deportations, which they may have missed at the time because they were busy calling Obama an open-borderer. Probably useless, but I've compiled some screenshots of news headlines about protests against Obama's deportations just to show people that yes, people DID protest against. Pretty much all through his presidency.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 January 2026 21:55 (five days ago)

I think Trump cares about the deportations — his entire political career is built on promising violence against brown-skinned immigrants, he's a serious and sincere racist and racists get off on that.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, January 26, 2026 4:55 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

for most people itd be perfectly logical to conclude that because theyre a bigtime racist theyre committed to deportations but with trump idk, does he care as much about deportations as he does his ballroom, does he care 10% as much

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 22:00 (five days ago)

how is Pretti's murder affecting Melania ticket sales?

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 26 January 2026 22:03 (five days ago)

deportations are generally invisible to Trump's base, because most of them are a person they haven't interacted with and don't value disappearing from the country

they want the people they hear about on fox news, or the "too many immigrants" they see when they actually leave their homes to have something bad happen. it's not about policy, it's about inflicting punishment for disturbing some imaginary status quo because these people think society is zero sum and if the bad people aren't here, their own lives will be better in some imaginary way. violence is when someone speaks to you and has an accent and you have the temporary embarrassment of repeating yourself or asking what they said

mh, Monday, 26 January 2026 22:05 (five days ago)

sorry for the ranting incoherence, it's been a tough week and I'm venting

mh, Monday, 26 January 2026 22:06 (five days ago)

I have not watched the video of Pretti's murder, and did not know until today that there is a photo of an ICE agent with his gun at Pretti's head, exactly like photos of Gestapo executions or that street execution from Vietnam. You can see it at this link, if you wan't to; I won't post the image here.

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mde2tssdik2o

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 26 January 2026 22:27 (five days ago)

I think it was aimed at his back, not his head, but yeah that freeze frame is pretty undeniable.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 January 2026 22:33 (five days ago)

All three of those armed ICE agents are clearly fearing for their lives from this kneeling man

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 January 2026 22:43 (five days ago)

no frogbs but the whole trying the "the agents were fearing for their lives" thing a second time reminds me of the season one South Park episode where Jimbo screams LOOK OUT NED ITS COMING RIGHT FOR US at every animal in the forest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaazFYTrQ_A

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 January 2026 22:46 (five days ago)

xp not that it didn't happen that way, but is that picture legit? The kneeling ice guy doesn't seem to have a head.

henry s, Monday, 26 January 2026 22:53 (five days ago)

what is this world coming to

Katie Drummond katie-drummond.bsky.social‬

Palantir employees are pressing company leadership over its work for ICE in internal company Slacks obtained by wired

"In my opinion ICE are the bad guys. I am not proud that the company I enjoy so much working for is part of this."

https://www.wired.com/story/palantir-ice-dhs-alex-pretti-killing-workers-slack-minneapolis/

lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2026 22:59 (five days ago)

good to hear but also LOL that somebody working for Palantir is just now having ethical qualms

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Monday, 26 January 2026 23:07 (five days ago)

xp not that it didn't happen that way, but is that picture legit? The kneeling ice guy doesn't seem to have a head.

It's an AI-"enhanced" freeze frame of a video still. In the (blurrier) video still, you can see the kneeling guy's head, but nothing else has changed. AI sucks.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 26 January 2026 23:09 (five days ago)

Rand Paul now asking ICE to testify in front of his Homeland Security committee

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 23:12 (five days ago)

if your representative is Glue, her dog be blue

your dog be red but wears a nice blue scarf over their collar for campaign headshots

uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Monday, 26 January 2026 23:20 (five days ago)

looks like Bovino's out? enjoy retirement bitch see you at the Hague

frogbs, Monday, 26 January 2026 23:48 (five days ago)

what's your source

WmC, Monday, 26 January 2026 23:49 (five days ago)

he's allegedly leaving MN tomorrow, but I don't think he's out of a job

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 26 January 2026 23:51 (five days ago)

The Atlantic:

Gregory Bovino has been removed from his role as Border Patrol “commander at large” and will return to his former job in El Centro, California, where he is expected to retire soon, according to a DHS official and two people with knowledge of the change.

Bovino’s sudden demotion is the clearest sign yet that the Trump administration is reconsidering its most aggressive tactics after the killing Saturday of 37-year-old Alex Pretti by Border Patrol agents under Bovino’s command.

Earlier today, President Trump appeared to signal in a series of social-media posts a tactical shift in the administration’s mass-deportation campaign. Trump wrote that he spoke with Minnesota Governor Tim Walz—whom the White House has blamed for inciting violence—and the two men are now on “a similar wavelength.” Tom Homan, the former ICE chief who Trump has designated “border czar,” will head to Minnesota to assume command of the federal mobilization there, Trump said.

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and her close adviser Corey Lewandowski, who were Bovino’s biggest backers at DHS, are also at risk of losing their jobs, two of the people told me.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 January 2026 23:52 (five days ago)

damn wow

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:00 (four days ago)

Bovino's got that cushy office job with the Christmas Adventurers to look forward to.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:06 (four days ago)

what makes us think that asshole Homan is gonna do anything differently than that asshole Bovino

henry s, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:07 (four days ago)

And here is where our arrogant hero Bovino, so proud of his assholery that he's the one that *doesn't* wear a mask, but does proudly don a Nazi-coded uniform, gets to see what it's like living out the rest of his life as an immediately recognizable target.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:08 (four days ago)

huh I assumed his SS Cosplay shit would guarantee him for a lifetime role as chief orc

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:14 (four days ago)

what makes us think that asshole Homan is gonna do anything differently than that asshole Bovino

He'll do the same shit, but he won't wear it as well as Lil' Heel. He is a legit goon about as charismatic as the guy playing Goomba #2 in a straight to streaming mobster movie.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:14 (four days ago)

her close advisor Corey Lewansowski

wiki sez:
He was the first campaign manager of Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and was dismissed by Trump during the Republican Primary...In September 2021, it was reported that he had allegedly made sexual advances towards the wife of a major Trump donor, leading to a Trump spokesman saying Lewandowski "will no longer be associated with Trump World."[4]

On August 15, 2024, Lewandowski joined the 2024 Donald Trump presidential campaign as a senior advisor.[5] However, in October he was removed from the national campaign staff, reportedly due to a staff conflict, and sent to New Hampshire to help manage Trump's local campaign in that state.

As of 2025 Lewandowski was acting as de facto chief of staff to secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem, in an unpaid special government employee (SGE) position.[6][7][8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corey_Lewandowski How do these guys keep getting back in?

dow, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:17 (four days ago)

Good news about Bovino! As bad as the Trump admin is, it's insane they let him be the face of their operation. Having the extremely nazi-coded weirdo front and center did them absolutely no favors.

As far as the talk about Obama and Biden being even worse, it's foolish of them to even play this game. It doesn't matter how many people Democratic presidents deport, the line will always be that it is not enough, so why even bother? Focus on reforming immigration laws and celebrating immigrants in general instead of acting like you're tough when no one cares.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:18 (four days ago)

Homan is a fuck but he has been the one internally advocating for a more targeted immigration operation that focuses more on "criminals" than Noem et al wanting to deport literally everyone that isn't a citizen even if they have asylum claims or came through DACA etc. He also took a more measured tone in reaction to the Pretti shooting than his colleagues (which isn't saying much, but still)

Obviously that's still bad - but I do think he's trying to shrink the profile of ICE. There's still major risk because ICE are mostly psychotic but he's less likely to instigate it than Bovino

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:18 (four days ago)

Then again, he takes bribes

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:20 (four days ago)

As far as the talk about Obama and Biden being even worse, it's foolish of them to even play this game. It doesn't matter how many people Democratic presidents deport, the line will always be that it is not enough, so why even bother?

― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Monday, January 26, 2026 7:18 PM (twenty seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

they do it because they think its good and serious politics

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:21 (four days ago)

A refresher:

ICE Barbie’s Furious Feud With Trump’s Border Czar Explodes https://share.google/1eQMG3fQfH7MRpoHc

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:21 (four days ago)

mh, your posting was not incoherent at all!

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:21 (four days ago)

Bovino taking the fall for Miller and Trump's order. luckily for him, he doesn't have very far to fall

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:23 (four days ago)

I mean i don't see him as a fall guy, he wanted this as much as they did

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:23 (four days ago)

Lewandowski and Noem are fucking and have been for a long time

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:24 (four days ago)

(was just starting to realize, thanks)(but how did he get back in before she was hired?)

dow, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:27 (four days ago)

(bait?)

dow, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:28 (four days ago)

noem next to be taken out back and shot like a dog?

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:31 (four days ago)

they are just flailing so bad with the Pretti as a 'domestic terrorist'... especially with that video of him reading that eloquent eulogy to a deceased veteran

Heads should roll

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:32 (four days ago)

what makes us think that asshole Homan is gonna do anything differently than that asshole Bovino

― henry s, Monday, January 26, 2026 7:07 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

could be a sign of them changing directions but who knows

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:33 (four days ago)

noem next to be taken out back and shot like a dog?

IDK, Trump likes to be surrounded with the Mar-a-lagoo ladies

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:33 (four days ago)

im sure hes got some more on deck

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:34 (four days ago)

Huh

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:39 (four days ago)

Was he just getting too much attention, and a certain somebody couldn’t stand having attention drawn away from *him*?

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:39 (four days ago)

prob didnt help

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:40 (four days ago)

Any attention that makes him look bad = you're gone.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:41 (four days ago)

That tracks

Just like that, under the bus

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:43 (four days ago)

Goodbye you loathsome fuck

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:44 (four days ago)

guys

Susan Collins is concerned.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:46 (four days ago)

I could actually see Noem getting exiled to Siberia... this second murder of a US citizen, a 2nd Amendment dude who worked helping veterans, is not playing too well with the faithful

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:50 (four days ago)

saying that it was ok to execute him because he had a gun prob wasnt the smartest

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 00:52 (four days ago)

Man o man, I shoulda read that xpost wholllle Corey wiki, for Adventures in American Anklebiter Assholer, gradually rising, and once he's in with Trump, he never quite leaves---quite the access/influence peddler---also something of a lush, and a crafty little cuss who nevertheless can go off the rails on camera (more often as commentator than interviewee, maybe, but is still versatile that way), mocking an immigrant child with Down's, is one of his Greatest Hits of media, but, fucking aside (also mentioned by wiki), some other things re Noem:

While DHS Secretary Kristi Noem was participating in an immigration raid on April 8, 2025, she was accompanied by Lewandowski, who introduced himself to the federal agents as “chief of staff.” DHS later clarified that he is an adviser to DHS and a Special government employee (SGE).[99] The Wall Street Journal subsequently described Lewandowski as Noem's "de facto chief of staff," adding that there were "White House concerns about their relationship".[100] When then-FEMA administrator Cameron Hamilton testified before Congress on May 7, 2025, stating, “I do not believe it is in the best interest of the American people to eliminate the Federal Emergency Management Agency", a position which differed from the Trump administration, he was summoned to Noem's office the following day, and was fired by Lewandowski, sitting at Noem's desk.[6][7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corey_Lewandowski
Also charges of brutalizing female reporter for Breitbart News etc. etc.

dow, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 01:07 (four days ago)

would obviously like to see many more heads roll, but I will take a certain satisfaction in seeing bovino be the public fall guy. worthless, subhuman fascist

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 01:08 (four days ago)

Apparently there is a point at which the optics are a smidgen too naziesque?

Ordinarily their thing is to double down and not give heads to "the left," but, perhaps...

Hard to claim it's what they meant to do all along (like backing down on Greenland), maybe it is a sign of things cracking under electoral gravity and the polling trouble.

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 01:08 (four days ago)

gop electeds must be absolutely losing their shit

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 01:09 (four days ago)

have to say tbh as a person with sensible gun opinions the fact that a lot of this is blowing up because of lack of respect for “second amendment rights” is cold comfort

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 01:09 (four days ago)

They should send Bovino to Greenland. By himself. With nothing but a bag full of damp socks.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 01:10 (four days ago)

Internecine tension on the right / GOP civil war stuff has given us false hope before but it can't be helping.

Cold comfort, yes, and we would obviously prefer a world where it didn't take the senseless murder of an innocent person to wake people up....

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 01:13 (four days ago)

I've seen the main (?) video slowed down---even NBC Nightly News showed it frame-by-frame this evening---and the impression that several, maybe all, agents fired at him, but Democracy Now! incl. this:

Six agents surround Pretti on the ground, and at least one appears to fire at him at close range. They then step away from Pretti’s body, and one officer appears to fire six shots at Pretti’s motionless body.
So, maybe if it's less than all of them, the Feds could make that distinction, between those who were overcome in the fog of something etc.---not nec. for overt blame, unless the politics of all this are looking even worse---see I'm afraid of a bit of brain lodged in the skull, even though we're talking Trump and trumpers: they're actually starting to indicate a tad more rationality.

dow, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 01:49 (four days ago)

I knew McArdle wrote a bullshit piece last week (printed before the Pretti shooting), but my god, this should be career ending

“The threat of mass migration is civilizational,” Ms. McArdle wrote on X on Sunday, adding: “It sucks that ICE shoots people sometimes. If we don’t deport illegal aliens and stop Democrat fraud, we will be Canada in less than 10 years.”

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 01:56 (four days ago)

oops...that's Angela McArdle, not Megan McArdle......too many McArdles

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 01:57 (four days ago)

even the libertarians kicked her out, utter trash

budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 02:14 (four days ago)

basically a white nationalist

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 02:15 (four days ago)

i didnt know there was a second worse mcardle

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 02:22 (four days ago)

rough showing by the mcardles of the world

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 02:22 (four days ago)

canada is nice what’s with people?

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 02:26 (four days ago)

Megan did write a poorly timed op-ed that posted the morning of the Pretti killing which basically said libs just needed to stop using the F word to describe Trump

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 02:26 (four days ago)

Fun fact: a group of McArdles is known as a Fardle.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 02:29 (four days ago)

mcardle is like 1/3 of high school female libertarians. as in, no one has met more than three and one of them is always sad ayn rand

mh, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 03:09 (four days ago)

“high school libertarian,” regardless of gender, sounds like a terrible idea

tobo73, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 03:14 (four days ago)

yeah libertarians are supposed to be interested in high school students not the other way around

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 03:15 (four days ago)

Given the weather, with another storm coming up after Fern (this one), is now a good time to be talking up, memeing up, climate disruption? Given also other disruption, or would it be too much for now?

dow, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 03:32 (four days ago)

prob not a good moment to try to wedge that into people's psyches

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 03:57 (four days ago)

total climate disaster is the only thing i can have faith in for bringing this entire shit show to an irrevocable end ... i can't let the libs take that from me

budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 04:28 (four days ago)

best thing the Dems can do right now is go full court press on Miller. he's the most loathsome person in this administration, nobody likes him, and I feel they get at least a little less pure evil after he's gone

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 04:35 (four days ago)

we will be Canada in less than 10 years.”

...you should be so lucky...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 04:56 (four days ago)

It's too late...we've got Tim Hortons in Texas now.
I believe I believe I believe we're turning into Canada

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 05:02 (four days ago)

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:rra7fxa4ojghjl3ohdnmnzz7/bafkreicztidoiwsv65ssofg2nemvbab5b2mkc46bv7afqrn5qhrw3wwsxi@jpeg

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 12:47 (four days ago)

did he post that out of spite or incompetence?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 13:39 (four days ago)

I'm guessing more incompetence but your theory holds too

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 13:45 (four days ago)

Adam Serwer:

Perhaps the Trump-administration officials had hoped that a few rabble-rousers would get violent, justifying the kind of crackdown he seems to fantasize about. Maybe they had assumed that they would find only a caricature of “the resistance”—people who seethed about Trump online but would be unwilling to do anything to defend themselves against him.

Instead, what they discovered in the frozen North was something different: a real resistance, broad and organized and overwhelmingly nonviolent, the kind of movement that emerges only under sustained attacks by an oppressive state. Tens of thousands of volunteers—at the very least—are risking their safety to defend their neighbors and their freedom. They aren’t looking for attention or likes on social media. Unless they are killed by federal agents, as Pretti and Renee Good were, other activists do not even necessarily know their names. Many use a handle or code name out of fear of government retaliation. Their concerns are justified: A number of people working as volunteers or observers told me that they had been trailed home by ICE agents, and some of their communications have already been infiltrated, screenshotted, and posted online, forcing them to use new text chains and code names. One urgent question among observers, as the videos of Pretti’s killing spread, was what his handle might have been.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 13:54 (four days ago)

I think they've poisoned their brains for five years with fairy tales about how "BLM and Antifa burned cities to the ground" in 2020, and they have assumed that it would happen again under armed occupation. Instead, that wily George Soros told his troops to stand down and drew ICE into a trap.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 14:15 (four days ago)

still waiting for my Soros check to clear

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 14:27 (four days ago)

President Trump met Monday evening in the Oval Office with Kristi Noem, the homeland security secretary, and Corey Lewandowski, her top aide, for nearly two hours, as his administration tries to shift its strategy after federal agents killed a second Minneapolis resident over the weekend, according to two people briefed on the meeting.

The meeting came after Ms. Noem requested to see the president, the people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a private meeting.

Mr. Trump did not suggest during the meeting that either Ms. Noem’s or Mr. Lewandowski’s jobs were at risk, the people said. But it was the latest sign the president is concerned about the bipartisan criticism of the administration’s response to the killing of Alex Pretti, who was shot at roughly 10 times by immigration agents on Saturday after he was apparently filming them with his phone camera.

Ms. Noem has been the face of the administration’s immigration crackdown, and she has been among the most vocal in spreading false accusations against Mr. Pretti, including labeling him a “domestic terrorist.”

The Oval Office meeting also included several of Mr. Trump’s top aides, including Susie Wiles, his chief of staff, Karoline Leavitt, his press secretary, and Steven Cheung, his communications director. Stephen Miller, a top aide to Mr. Trump who oversees the administration’s immigration strategy, was not part of the meeting.

The meeting came the same day Mr. Trump announced he was sending Tom Homan, his border czar, to oversee the operation in Minneapolis. The move was seen as a way to elevate an official who is steeped in Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s longstanding practice of prioritizing targeted arrests, rather than the kinds of sweeping raids that the Trump administration has carried out in cities across the country.

At the same time, the administration was planning to move Gregory Bovino, a Border Patrol official whose harsh tactics have drawn sharp criticism, out of the city, according to two officials with knowledge of the matter who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 14:37 (four days ago)

Bovino has been Maduroed.

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 14:40 (four days ago)

The nonviolent resistance we are seeing in Minnesota is incredibly inspiring.

treeship., Tuesday, 27 January 2026 14:42 (four days ago)

Jimmy Kimmel and Jon Stewart were pretty good on this last night. obviously we all know the myriad of ways the government is lying to us and how insane their talking points are, but seeing it all en toto like that is really something. because it's not like they have weak arguments, they have no arguments at all. both monologues seemed directed specifically at Republicans, like is this the hill you really want to die on, smearing a VA ICU nurse exercising his 2nd amendment rights who was clearly not a threat to anyone based on the multiple angles of clear video evidence we have, all in service of an 80 year old pedophile who spent the weekend posting about his ballroom?

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 14:59 (four days ago)

don’t know why he’d keep noem and her co-regent

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:00 (four days ago)

I think there might be a simple equation here: for every one ICE watcher, there are two people running mutual aid to people staying indoors, and 20 at home willing them on.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:08 (four days ago)

Whh keep Noem?

Perhaps to see whether sending Bovino to Siberia, and standing down in Minn, calms the wolves.

Firing Noem remains an option for later.

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:09 (four days ago)

xpost
I think there is a higher volume of people running mutual aid then commuting, I think it is closer to 10-to-1, at least in my neighborhood it feels that way

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:11 (four days ago)

prior to this, whenever it came to police killings, the thought was "the only way a cop sees justice is if you somehow get the entire thing on tape".

now even that isn't enough.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:14 (four days ago)

The entire Rodney King beating was captured on tape and all the officers were acquitted after the defense attorneys painstakingly deconstructed the video evidence using freeze frames and indicating things like King's foot moving up a half an inch etc

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:21 (four days ago)

Sorry just checked THREE officers were acquitted and verdict was not reached on the fourth

That said at least they faced criminal charges

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:24 (four days ago)

In the last six months there have been 16 shootings by DHS personnel. Not one has faced charges.

https://wapo.st/45scxnC gifty gift

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:34 (four days ago)

If you fire Bovino, the message is Bovino failed (most importantly, he failed Trump) but the mission continues.

If you fire Bovino and Noem, the message is that the mission itself is a failure, and that's intolerable.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:46 (four days ago)

Oh the balls on this chode

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/01/27/us/minneapolis-shooting-ice-minnesota/da5ac368-befd-518e-ad22-34aed04dd220?smid=url-share

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:47 (four days ago)

Paywalled. What did he say?

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:51 (four days ago)

Fetterman now asking Trump to fire Noem, whom HE VOTED YES ON

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:52 (four days ago)

His wife must’ve laid down the law.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:53 (four days ago)

His wife must’ve laid down the law.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:53 (four days ago)

sorry, this is an instagram video, from mother jones, but this is one of the only times, ever, i have seen a white evangelical apologize in a serious way and then take steps to address the damage they caused

https://www.instagram.com/p/DT8967LDyaR/

"Being here, in solidarity, is part of the repair work in my own soul," says Rev. Rob Schenck, an Evangelical minister who spent decades helping build America's Religious Right—commingling church and state to advance conservative causes like the anti-abortion movement.

Now, he says he must confront the damage he helped cause, including what he believes was his role in delivering "the entities that are now inflicting all of this suffering on so many people." One example: Schenck's organization, Faith and Action in the Nation's Capital, created "Operation Higher Court," which trained wealthy couples as "stealth missionaries" to befriend Supreme Court justices to preserve, in his words, a Christian nation.

"So now I have to do the work of repair," he told Mother Jones digital producer @sam.vp in the icy streets of Minneapolis on Friday during the city's "Day of Truth and Freedom"—a citywide strike and march in which clergy played a prominent role.

"These folks are showing more grace in accepting me than I would have ever extended to them," Schenck says, flanked by organizers shouting, "Whose streets? Our streets!"The next day, after learning of federal agents shooting and killing Alex Pretti, Schenck extended his stay in the city. More from his journey, and the clergy's fight against ICE, coming soon.

"This is redemption," he told Sam. "This is redemption.”

z_tbd, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:53 (four days ago)

I think there is Another who will judge that but it's never too late to save your soul, Rev Schenk

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:57 (four days ago)

and that someone is Ed Koch

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:58 (four days ago)

Glenn Beck in a NYTimes interview, 11/27/16:

You’ve admitted that you were part of the problem that paved the way to Trump — you’ve expressed regret, for example, for calling President Obama a racist — but I see your role in all of this as a bit more than just “a guy who insulted the president.”

I could excuse it, to some degree — I won’t — but I could excuse some of it by saying that I was trying to, in some ways, accomplish what Jon Stewart can accomplish: draw huge crowds, make points and then encourage you to do your own homework. I know I wouldn’t believe me if I heard myself apologizing, so I’m telling you now: Don’t take my word for it. Watch my actions. I don’t care what you think about me. All I care about is saying, Please, don’t make the mistake I made.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 16:00 (four days ago)

didn't he double back a few years later

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 16:03 (four days ago)

Must be nice to leisurely pursue your redemption in your evil deeds-funded retirement.

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 16:05 (four days ago)

xpost Exactly, I posted that in the context of that Evangelical minister's mea culpa. Or any of these recidivist grifters and opportunists.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 16:08 (four days ago)

I’m not saying this is the right reaction but that excerpt from the thing with schenk which z just posted caused me to burst into tears on the subway

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 16:10 (four days ago)

During the ‘00s there was a post-evangelical guy called Frank Schaeffer who called out Palin’s Dominionist bullshit.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 16:11 (four days ago)

The bit about these people have accepted me with more grace etc etc

duolingo ate my baby (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 16:11 (four days ago)

xp jon not jon

it made me feel good too. i don’t think there’s any ‘right reaction’.

i don’t think beck is a great comparison (he built his name on hatred and had/has dozens of people depending on him to be hateful so they can help him sell it). and yeah, rev. schenck’s woke period will probably end soon, most likely when he faces his family and church again and they wonder where the good old righteous hatred went. being cynical is the winning move, if we were playing a game and the game was about who was correct.

but i also think that, since it’s so exceeeeeeedingly rare for a white evangelical to have a saul -> paul moment, it’s worth rooting for. if even like 5% of white evangelicals would stop being so fucking hateful it would make a huge difference

z_tbd, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 16:21 (four days ago)

Gift link for Times judge story

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/01/27/us/minneapolis-shooting-ice-minnesota?unlocked_article_code=1.HlA.NfV-.M2A4z3d_xXnr&smid=url-share

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 16:54 (four days ago)

Fox really IS non-personing Bovino, kinda hilarious:

https://bsky.app/profile/mmfa.bsky.social/post/3mdg7vxcjzk2a

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 16:59 (four days ago)

they’re gonna have to dig back into their bovino stock footage to find still where he isn’t dressed exactly like a nazi

z_tbd, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:01 (four days ago)

Xxpost that judge is especially pissed because of the end around the DOJ tried to do around him to the 8th circuit on top of this malfeasance.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:02 (four days ago)

Be prepared for a wave of brain poisoning among America's grandparents; Bari Weiss is planning to cut loose a bunch of newsroom reporters and hire 18 "commentators."

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:07 (four days ago)

the fault of course lies not with his royal highness but his wicked advisors

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:08 (four days ago)

Duckworth on Senate Republicans: "I gotta be honest with you. When I talk to a few of my colleagues, they had not even seen the videos. It's almost like they put blinders on. They're uneasy."

from video on post Aaron Rupar shared

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:10 (four days ago)

It's interesting that Miller wasn't at the meeting with Noem yesterday, seeing as how he's the one actually running this entire deportation show.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:15 (four days ago)

this was during his session in the bacta tank

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:16 (four days ago)

Hopefully he is getting axed

treeship., Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:18 (four days ago)

have we talked about the growing call for a World Cup boycott of the U.S.?

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:20 (four days ago)

the fault of course lies not with his royal highness but his wicked advisors

If only the Tsar knew

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:21 (four days ago)

xpost I wish they'd just take it away from us. I love the World Cup, I was excited for years about it coming back here, but I can't imagine cheering on the US right now, much less fans feeling comfortable cheering on their team here.

give the entire thing to Canada/Mexico

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:24 (four days ago)

this is a great video that really captures what's been going on in Minneapolis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1dyNcRGRXY

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:24 (four days ago)

the most chilling quote from the officer in that video who said "if you raise your voice, I'll ERASE your voice"

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:33 (four days ago)

yeah I had not seen that clip before, really chilling

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:34 (four days ago)

holy shit

"why are you asking for my papers?"

"because of your accent"

"you have an accent too, sir"

"where were you born, sir?"

"where were YOU born?"

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:36 (four days ago)

thanks for sharing this, it hit hard. this needs wide circulation

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:39 (four days ago)

holy shit

"why are you asking for my papers?"

"because of your accent"

"you have an accent too, sir"

"where were you born, sir?"

"where were YOU born?"

― Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, January 27, 2026 11:36 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

My neighbors a couple doors down are all East African cabbies and they are all like this, they are very funny

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:41 (four days ago)

Thanks for that video, UMS - I know we're seeing only a fraction of what's really going, but that's a pretty good snapshot of the fucking brutality of these proud boy assholes

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:41 (four days ago)

Philip Glass pulls world premiere from Kennedy Center
https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/2026/01/27/philip-glass-kennedy-center-lincoln-premiere/

“After thoughtful consideration, I have decided to withdraw my Symphony No. 15 ‘Lincoln’ from the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts,” Glass wrote in a statement provided to The Washington Post. “Symphony No. 15 is a portrait of Abraham Lincoln, and the values of the Kennedy Center today are in direct conflict with the message of the Symphony. Therefore, I feel an obligation to withdraw this Symphony premiere from the Kennedy Center under its current leadership.”

WmC, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:44 (four days ago)

have we talked about the growing call for a World Cup boycott of the U.S.?

Boycott or no boycott the number of fans planning to travel to the US for it must be dropping precipitously every day.

anvil, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:44 (four days ago)

Man, them scooping up NATIVE AMERICANS is fucking dark

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:48 (four days ago)

xp yes, I've heard anecdotally about a bunch of hotel cancellations already happening

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:49 (four days ago)

After thoughtful consideration

did you really have to think that hard?

budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:49 (four days ago)

an empty World Cup would be great

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:56 (four days ago)

Dems could literally fundraise on "the GOP is going to take your guns" right now

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:59 (four days ago)

growing call for a World Cup boycott of the U.S.?

...but FIFA went to the trouble of inventing a Peace Prize for Trump. doesn't that mean anything?!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:59 (four days ago)

xp we're already nostalgic for the early days of Covid

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:00 (four days ago)

Dems could literally fundraise on "the GOP is going to take your guns" right now

― Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, January 27, 2026 11:59 AM (twenty-six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

probably for another thread, but all this gun shit has made me uneasy. it's one thing to call out hypocrisy, but i'm going to stand by my conviction that not carrying a gun around makes my community safer

budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:01 (four days ago)

thanks ums, i’ve been hoping for that kind of piece to arrive. i’ve shared already.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:05 (four days ago)

Xpost To be clear, I hate guns and gun culture. I want am outright repeal of 2nd Amendment.

But in times where it feels like we live in two different countries and our own federal government is opposing us and their allies are armed to the teeth...

...then I understand why more leftists are carrying now.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:05 (four days ago)

Btw...why i said that

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mdgcnfmnmc2c

Trump: "With that being said, you can't have guns. You can't walk in with guns. You just can't. You can't walk in with guns. You can't do that. But it's just a very unfortunate incident."

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:06 (four days ago)

Trump: "With that being said, you can't have guns. You can't walk in with guns."

just what Gov. Reagan said about the Black Panthers lol

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:08 (four days ago)

and budo otm for me. the fact he was armed helps to reach “personal” 2nd amendment dickheads, but personal gun rights as currently are not legit.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:09 (four days ago)

yes unfortunately I think he might still be alive had he not been carrying

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:13 (four days ago)

I'd seen a lot of those videos before (the one with the kid they snatch from a Wal Mart, torture and dump at a Target really gets to me) but damn I hadn't seen the footage of the agent clapping after Pretti is murdered

obvious old hat (rob), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:13 (four days ago)

yes unfortunately I think he might still be alive had he not been carrying

Yeah. And I'm not victim-blaming in any way. I understand someone who has a gun deciding to carry it when dealing with this shit. He might have quite reasonably thought he'd need it to protect himself or someone else. But imo the reality is that having more guns in any situation increases the likelihood of one of them being used. I don't love any messaging to the effect that "We should all be going armed to protests." (Where I part ways with some more militant friends.)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:14 (four days ago)

ICE will have “security role” at Olympics

https://apnews.com/article/ice-milan-cortina-olympics-immigration-enforcement-us-110fa4b2066e1fb920dba2a71c3a89e0

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:16 (four days ago)

Boycott or no boycott the number of fans planning to travel to the US for it must be dropping precipitously every day.

I had an invite to go to Tribeca this year and, hyped though I was to experience Mamdani's NYC, after enough stories of ppl getting sent back for having clicked like on some meme making fun of JD Vance or whatever, I've decided not to go. US customs always an unpleasant experience anyway, the thought of those types now getting to do whatever they feel like is terrifying.

And that's me, a comfortably off white guy with fluent english and a UK passport. Can't begin to imagine how scary travelling to the US would now feel for anyone who doesn't tick those boxes.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:16 (four days ago)

idk about Pretti still being alive if he hadn't carried, the not being armed part didn't help Renee Good. or the detainee who was choked to death. ICE killing people is about dominance, demanding submission, and reacting with rage when they don't get it.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:18 (four days ago)

I've decided not to go. US customs always an unpleasant experience anyway, the thought of those types now getting to do whatever they feel like is terrifying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rw7WBelV9g

Scottish YouTuber refused entry and deported after travelling Edinburgh-Boston. (Though he did have photos on his phone posing with the Taliban in Pakistan which won't have helped)

anvil, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:22 (four days ago)

https://www.ajc.com/news/2026/01/more-than-1000-alleged-rights-abuses-in-immigration-detention-ossoff-finds/

Officials with U.S. Sen. Jon Ossoff’s office say its investigation of ICE detention facilities found 1,037 credible reports of human rights abuses between Jan. 20, 2025 and Jan. 12, 2026. Those include:

206 reports of medical neglect
181 reports of overcrowding and unsanitary conditions
139 reports of denial of adequate food or water
102 reports of imposed sleep deprivation
88 reports of physical and sexual abuse
50 reports of exposure to extreme temperatures
44 reports of family separation
40 reports of mistreatment of children
26 reports of mistreatment of pregnant women

I have problems with Ossoff, but it would be very very encouraging to learn that lots of Dems are doing this kind of thing with the future in mind

obvious old hat (rob), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:23 (four days ago)

usa may somehow climb off this shitpot, but aint no bidet dudewipes gonna get this clean. it’s different forever.

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:24 (four days ago)

well remember we jailed the Japanese and somehow came back from that awful moment

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:27 (four days ago)

did we though

obvious old hat (rob), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:27 (four days ago)

idk about Pretti still being alive if he hadn't carried, the not being armed part didn't help Renee Good. or the detainee who was choked to death. ICE killing people is about dominance, demanding submission, and reacting with rage when they don't get it.

yeah, this is salient. and honestly it comes across as deeply victim-blaming and echoing the rhetoric of the administration to write anything resembling “he might still be alive if he hadn’t been carrying.” tfoh with that nonsense.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:32 (four days ago)

idk about Pretti still being alive if he hadn't carried, the not being armed part didn't help Renee Good. or the detainee who was choked to death. ICE killing people is about dominance, demanding submission, and reacting with rage when they don't get it.

― Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, January 27, 2026 12:18 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:33 (four days ago)

ICE providing "security" at the Olympics has Altamont written all over it

henry s, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:33 (four days ago)

did we though

the US literally engaged in a propaganda campaign to turn Japanese Americans into model minorities, approximating them with whiteness.

this certainly doesn’t constitute “coming back” from such horrific acts, though. some plaque in a desert waste like Manzanar is cold comfort

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:35 (four days ago)

Japanese internment camps were a training video for Trump's ICE

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:38 (four days ago)

yeah I was thinking more broadly, as in: if you're looking at the US post-WW2 and thinking about the confluence of race/racism and incarceration, we didn't "come back" from anything

obvious old hat (rob), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:42 (four days ago)

absolutely

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:43 (four days ago)

Pretti alive? Without a gun? I dunno. ICE decided that Good's car was a weapon. When these guys wanna kill, they'll find a reason.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:45 (four days ago)

they've killed dozens of people inside their concentration camp walls, so yeah

obvious old hat (rob), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:49 (four days ago)

i really don't think it's worth speculating about what could've kept Alex Pretti alive.

in my opinion, the discourse around 2A has basically nothing to do with his death apart from exposing the shameful hypocrisy.

budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:51 (four days ago)

i think it’s okay if republicans are coming around to the idea that carrying a handgun in public isn’t a great idea

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:55 (four days ago)

my understanding is he was shot the moment they noticed the gun, so I suspect he probably would be alive otherwise. of course I'm not 100% sure of that fact but that does seem to be the moment they unloaded on him. obviously they would've beaten him up pretty bad and probably landed him in the hospital regardless. they are violent thugs who exist to hurt people.

why it matters is pretty obvious. as much as Trump has hollowed out the entire conservative belief system the 2nd amendment is the big one, it's the one thing they've based most of their identity on, they have to be aware how unprincipled this is making them look and I suspect being okay with feds being allowed to murder anyone who sports a gun is not really a road they want to go down. I know these people do not care about being hypocrites and that their entire worldview is "we can do it, you can't" but this was a white guy in his 30s and everyone knows that ICE is not exactly doing their due diligence here

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 18:57 (four days ago)

Philip Glass pulls world premiere from Kennedy Center
https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/2026/01/27/philip-glass-kennedy-center-lincoln-premiere/

“After thoughtful consideration, I have decided to withdraw my Symphony No. 15 ‘Lincoln’ from the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts,” Glass wrote in a statement provided to The Washington Post. “Symphony No. 15 is a portrait of Abraham Lincoln, and the values of the Kennedy Center today are in direct conflict with the message of the Symphony. Therefore, I feel an obligation to withdraw this Symphony premiere from the Kennedy Center under its current leadership.”

Yay, Phil!

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 19:03 (four days ago)

Boycott or no boycott the number of fans planning to travel to the US for it must be dropping precipitously every day.

I wouldn't even dream of visiting the USA for any reason these days, never mind doing it to spend a fortune on ludicrously overpriced football tickets.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 19:12 (four days ago)

Yay, Phil!

I noticed he pointedly did not use the 'updated' name that honors Trump.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 19:13 (four days ago)

xpost a recent poll showed 80% of respondents from abroad stated they would not consider visiting the US for any reason at the moment

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 19:17 (four days ago)

But they will and they do. My sister in law recently visited and then published an op-ed in a prominent paper arguing (convincingly) that now is not the time to visit the US.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 19:32 (four days ago)

The National Symphony, the last semi-independent tenant of the Kennedy Center, has seen several soloists cancel (most recently Bela Fleck) and Renee Fleming because of the name change. Now they are losing world premieres. They need to move out, like the Opera dod, to survive.

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 19:34 (four days ago)

Now this fucking asshole has seen the light:

The Trump administration’s immigration crackdown over the last year has gone from uncomfortable to untenable for Ileana Garcia, a Republican state senator in Florida.

A Transportation Security Administration officer at the Tallahassee airport overheard her speaking Spanish and asked whether Ms. Garcia, who was born in Miami, was an American citizen. She worried for the first time that Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents might stop her son, a young adult, because he looks Hispanic. Constituents have asked her for help finding immigrant relatives arrested by ICE.

Ms. Garcia, 56, has had enough. The Republican Party is in trouble, she said in an interview, predicting that it will lose this year’s midterm elections if the White House does not soon reconsider its harsh immigration enforcement tactics.

“We should not be afraid as a party to speak up, to course correct,” she said. That was before Saturday, when Border Patrol agents shot and killed Alex Pretti, a 37-year-old I.C.U. nurse who was protesting in Minneapolis, and federal officials sought to portray him as a “domestic terrorist.” Ms. Garcia said she was “dumbfounded.”

“It’s gone too far,” she said. “What happened Saturday was abhorrent.”

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 19:37 (four days ago)

I know the co-founder of Latinas for Trump, thanks to her brother. She's a fucking loon

Ileana Garcia, who barely won her 2020 election (check it out), was almost my state senator. Oops.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 19:38 (four days ago)

Fleming cited "a scheduling conflict," Bela said "performing there has become charged and political." Martha Graham Company "regrets that, for a variety of reasons, we are unable to perform at the Kennedy Center in April." Phil Glass was at least more pointed. "Hamilton" has been the most explicit.

At this rate it's going to be like the redneck Sphere, with Kiss and Kid Rock playing there every weekend.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 19:46 (four days ago)

"It’s gone too far ..." "... agents might stop her son, a young adult, because he looks Hispanic..." " ... "'I never thought leopards would eat MY face ..."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 19:48 (four days ago)

Fleming also had,almost immediately, cancelled the vocal performance series she sponsored at the Center last year when Trump installed himself as Chairman.

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 19:49 (four days ago)

i can already hear the pundits talking: the democrats wanted an open border, the republicans were too harsh, we need a sensible immigration policy for the middle, without any extremism. and we will end up with a form of hidden and well-coordinated fascism and de-humanization that no dem pol will have the backbone to speak up against

budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 19:51 (four days ago)

"It’s gone too far ..."

The inability of so many MAGA adherents to imagine the future consequences of turning their unhealthy reactionary impulses into government policy doesn't surprise anyone any more.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 19:51 (four days ago)

aka what we already have and have had for a long time xp

budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 19:51 (four days ago)

that's me, a comfortably off white guy with fluent english and a UK passport

I'm a fairly broke white guy with a UK passport and an iVisa to visit the US, but I wouldn't until Trump is gone, at least. The last time I visited, on a work trip in 2019, the customs official, upon discovering I was a journalist, grinned, told me that a journalist had been murderded in LA the week before and told me to "be careful" while miming loading a rifle.

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 19:59 (four days ago)

This is feeling a bit like 2006 when impending electoral doom caused a few Republicans to suddenly start talking about how the Iraq War was not going so well.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 20:03 (four days ago)

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/person-shot-border-patrol-involved-arizona-rcna256137

Details murky on this one. Seems like the FBI was pursuing a suspect and called in CBP.

In Tucson

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 20:09 (four days ago)

though the Pima County Sheriff's Office is leading the investigation on this one, per the FBI

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 20:20 (four days ago)

Fleming also had,almost immediately, cancelled the vocal performance series she sponsored at the Center last year when Trump installed himself as Chairman.

Oh and the Kennedy Center Head Toady cancelled three symphony concerts, a whole weekend, so that FIFA could give Trump a tongue bath.

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 20:33 (four days ago)

soon it will be Kid Rock, Aaron Lewis, and the guitarist from Three Doors Down playing in front of 125 people in tuxes

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 20:34 (four days ago)

I guess there's now some plan to put Trump on the stump, traveling weekly until the midterms. It's a questionable strategy, as it puts him in front of more microphones to say more stupid and offensive shit, but also shows that they're nervous

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 20:34 (four days ago)

god, and I'd just gotten over my rage about Elf on the Shelf

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 20:35 (four days ago)

Maybe he'll die

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 20:47 (four days ago)

lol immediate same thought

obvious old hat (rob), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 20:49 (four days ago)

"If it's me and Kid Rock, Aaron Lewis, and the guitarist from Three Doors Down playing in front of 125 people in tuxes, it's the Fall."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 20:50 (four days ago)

we need Mark E. Smith right now

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 20:52 (four days ago)

The Kennedy Center has Fallen

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 20:59 (four days ago)

Maybe he'll die

I was going to say all that flying would give him more opportunities for a fatal thrombosis

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:02 (four days ago)

also: what they say they're gonna do and what they actually do may not be the same... he's gotta get some golf in there and there

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:08 (four days ago)

Putting Trump on another rally tour at this point seems so Weekend At Bernie’s

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:12 (four days ago)

hes gonna be a large gelatinous hematoma being carted around the course but i say grip it and rip it hoss

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:12 (four days ago)

FAKE GNUS

Consumer confidence falls to lowest level in more than a decade

The Consumer Confidence Index fell in January to 84.5, its lowest level in more than a decade, reflecting Americans’ persistent concerns about the U.S. economy.

The index — which measures how Americans feel about current and future economic conditions — fell 9.7 points this month from the upwardly revised 94.2 recorded in December.

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:12 (four days ago)

Hegs Ethduction Hour

budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:13 (four days ago)

oh that’s just vibes biden told me to look at economic numbers

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:14 (four days ago)

look i think putting Trump out there more frequently in front of crowds can only be a good thing

omar little, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:18 (four days ago)

if he finally shits himself in public the final headline from the Post might finally give him a widow-maker

TRUMP DUMP ON THE STUMP

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:19 (four days ago)

I think Trump should go on an epic arena tour, just drop the security and mingle with his people like the regular guy he is. He can perform "in the round," like classic Def Leppard, so that everyone gets a good, clear view. You know, one for the fans.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:27 (four days ago)

Noem can hear footsteps behind her; she's ratting Stephen Miller out to Axios:

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem is under fire for issuing misleading and incendiary information that claimed immigration agents killed an armed Minnesota protestor Saturday because he wanted to "massacre" them.

But that language was dictated to Noem and her department by the man most responsible for the controversial operation: Stephen Miller, the White House deputy chief of staff and top Trump adviser, four sources tell Axios.

Why it matters: The episode illustrates the sheer power of Miller, Trump's close and longest-serving political adviser whose dominion in the White House far exceeds his title.

His influence extends to de facto oversight of Noem, though she's a Cabinet secretary who technically outranks him.

"Everything I've done, I've done at the direction of the president and Stephen," Noem told a person who relayed her remarks to Axios.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:31 (four days ago)

Also, you know, there’s some crazy flus floating around out there so yeah, TOUR TIME

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:32 (four days ago)

they should all be outdoors in cold weather states.

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:33 (four days ago)

if he finally shits himself in public

Hasn't this happened? people standing next to him often look ready to projectile vomit. (But maybe it's just sharting)

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:33 (four days ago)

I think Trump should go on an epic arena tour, just drop the security and mingle with his people like the regular guy he is. He can perform "in the round," like classic Def Leppard, so that everyone gets a good, clear view. You know, one for the fans.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, January 27, 2026 3:27 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

“An Intimate Evening with Donald J. Trump”

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:33 (four days ago)

He can perform "in the round"

YMCA extended remix

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:36 (four days ago)

"Everything I've done, I've done at the direction of the president and Stephen," Noem told a person who relayed her remarks to Axios.

noem taking a serious shot here, might just be desperate but maybe miller is vulnerable considering his stupid evil plan is tanking the presidency

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:42 (four days ago)

yeah in a sense I think Miller is actually the president, a bit like Cheney under Bush... he's definitely the architect of the cruelty but Trump likes it or he wouldn't go along with it

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:45 (four days ago)

does seem to be agreed that miller is running the show

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:46 (four days ago)

“An Intimate Evening with Donald J. Trump”

Just one man in a room, getting back to basics.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:48 (four days ago)

Man woman camera TV

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:49 (four days ago)

out of all of the administration crises this go-around, the first one that landed any sizable blow was Epstein. the tariffs caused a lot of internal turmoil, but the impacts from the tariffs took a while to become visible and he TACOed on several of them. resistance was effective but Trump's approval ratings, while declining month over month, mostly stayed in the 'safe' range, and most all noise got dismissed as "lib tears".

Epstein actually drew a little blood from his own side, but Good/Pretti actually seems to have done a lot of internal damage with the potential to alienate allies and precipitating a mid-term bloodbath. the latter? I feel like they always talk themselves into "we'll fix it by election time", but actually having your water-carriers dump their buckets on the ground, your power weakens significantly.

I don't know that *this* will be the moment that Miller gets axed because he's stayed around this long through many other controversies...also, who is the most likely between Noem and Miller to leak?

Probably Noem is my guess. Miller, I could see keeping tight-lipped due to his actual creepy obsession with his Nazi mission and saving his barbs for behind closed quarters, but Noem is enough of an opportunist that I could see her selling him out. she won't sell Trump out directly, but Miller and other cronies, maybe. she'll frame it as Trump getting 'bad advice' while being careful about the level of detail she gets into, which will still paint unsavory pictures of the administration that play that way to their allies.

so my guess is...Noem will go, Miller will stay. because he's misogynist.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 21:59 (four days ago)

Fetterman says he won't abolish ICE

the stroke might abolish him though

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 22:02 (four days ago)

President Donald Trump’s Justice Department has decided there will be no civil rights investigation of the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti. Instead, two units of the Department of Homeland Security will investigate their officers and the man they killed, according to three people briefed on the steps and internal records reviewed by MS NOW.

A Customs and Border Protection office will investigate whether its own officers followed agency policy in the shooting, according to the people. Another DHS unit, Homeland Security Investigations, will investigate whether Pretti broke any laws, according to two people familiar with the decision. That unit is part of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and normally focuses on tracking down human-trafficking and narcotics rings and threats to national security.

It was widely assumed that the Justice Department would also not conduct an independent civil rights probe of Pretti’s shooting, after choosing not to launch a similar probe of the fatal shooting of Renee Good by an ICE officer on Jan. 7. That view was reinforced when news broke this weekend that DHS would take the lead in the Pretti probe.

An FBI document described to MS NOW says that Border Patrol officials requested FBI help gathering evidence after the shooting, but that “all evidence, excluding firearms and casings, were turned over to DHS.”

So no real investigation what to ever?! This is fucked

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 22:04 (four days ago)

Well, why would they conduct a civil rights probe? He was white. Nothing to see here, nothing at all.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 22:08 (four days ago)

this would be a good time for our Congressfolk to begin beating this hammer too

there's going to be a Committee hearing in the House on 2/10, but we know that will be a farce because lol Republicans running it.

but they've got to make threats in regards to the no civil rights investigation. no funding bill whatsoever if there's no investigation. not just no funding for ICE....

I sincerely doubt Minnesota is going to press state charges because the supremacy clause means they're going to actually have to prove to a federal judge that the agent didn't have a reasonable belief that he was authorized to do what he did ...and shooter's lawyers would pivot and say they were told they had absolute immunity and were led to believe they had authority to act in that way.

that being said, I really hope they try it even if it fails.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 22:09 (four days ago)

"Everything I've done, I've done at the direction of the president and Stephen," Noem told a person who relayed her remarks to Axios.

this is good. run, kristi noem. you’re just as guilty, regardless of what your white supremacist friend/boss told you do (and you did so, so willingly, over and over, without a hint of protest)

z_tbd, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 22:15 (four days ago)

the Eva Peron of white supremacy

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 22:18 (four days ago)

i would be interested in hearing some leaks about just how much miller is running the presidency, this would be a good thing for colleagues who have an interest in injuring him to start talking to their favorite reporters about

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 22:19 (four days ago)

its interesting that axios is reporting this story insofar as theyre a good barometer for where the shit for brains washington consensus is at

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 22:21 (four days ago)

especially since its hardly a story considering that miller made the assassin claims publicly himself its obvious that he came up with the idea the only thing thats really a story is noem throwing him under the bus

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 22:23 (four days ago)

this whole thing def feels like a turning point, not that things were exactly going swimmingly for them before this but this shit is radicalizing people in a way I don't think I've ever actually seen before in my life.

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 22:37 (four days ago)

otm

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 22:38 (four days ago)

to keep (proudly) using my mother here but...

My mother *made* me go to church in high school. up until a few years ago, asked me occasionally if I worshipped Satan. She voted Clinton both times, and then Gore, but voted Dubya in 2004, McCain in 2008, Romney in 2012. She regularly complained about people who don't speak English (ok, still does - not all habits die easily). She was as center-right as you could be - even got angry when I took her to South Park movie when I was 18 because she was offended by all the profanity. she was a prejudiced woman as was dad, and I regularly fought both of them on it growing up. she also had the typical church prejudice against the LGBTQ+ community (the "love the sinner, hate the sin" bullshit).

I remember vividly when Michael Moore got on the Oscars and screamed at Dubya about the Iraq War, mom got angry and told him GET OFF THE TV, THE AWARDS SHOW ISN'T MADE FOR THIS. she was as much a low-info voter as existed, a "don't talk politics" person...unless her Christian sensibilities were offended of course. then Trump happened.

Now, mom has always been relatively feminist underneath it all - so when Trump ran, she voted Hillary. and when she lost, she was angry and spiteful and started paying attention, a lot more. at first, she mostly reacted to how he treated women, which....she should, we all should!

Then she started moving further and further left with every little thing he did the first term, and by second term, she wasn't voting FOR Biden, she absolutely hated Trump. when Biden was in power, her anger shifted to DeSantis - particularly his hate campaign against the LGBTQ+ community (I wouldn't say mom has moved to full throated support here, but...it's a near 180 about face from 20+ years ago). Mom actually canvassed for Florida House rep Anna Eskamani, and had a sign in her yard for several months.

one day, we're watching SNL reruns and System of a Down is playing "B.Y.O.B." and mom takes a pause from whining about the 'screaming vocals' to say "They're right, they DO always send the poor" (which made me do a spit-take).

nowadays? I finish work and go to eat with her, and she's SCREAMING about ICE. "what are they doing? they're killing people! how is this helping us? I wanna go out there and yell at them!". she's screaming about Greenland, telling me about all of her conservative friends that she trolled on Facebook.

a 72 year old woman who in high school once grounded me for saying "fuck" is saying "fuck ICE"

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 22:53 (four days ago)

<3

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 22:58 (four days ago)

Trump is going to try to have noem and miller take the fall for him

treeship., Tuesday, 27 January 2026 22:59 (four days ago)

he will say the Democrats elected Miller and if only he could have picked his own advisors this wouldn't have happened

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:00 (four days ago)

That is my worry. He will oust them, distance himself from this policy, re-consolidate his GOP base, and then when his approval raging sneaks back up to 40 or so, he will do some other unconscionable thing.

Meanwhile, I think an issue that needs more attention and light shed on it is what is going on in the detention facilities.

treeship., Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:02 (four days ago)

I mean - that may have worked in the first term, but people have longer memories now.

like...he selected these two. and he already knew who Miller was in the first term. the anger and disruption will not stop simply because he takes his brutality off camera.

Republicans who have fled and some Independents will come back but people who had friends/family deported aren't going to forget that just because he fired a few people

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:05 (four days ago)

Noem could go but it’s hard to imagine Trump without Miller at this point. I suppose he could get a reduced portfolio, but … this entire administration is built on “Mass Deportation Now.” They’ve committed billions of dollars to detention centers that aren’t even built yet and ICE agents they haven’t even hired yet. It’s not something he can pivot away from and declare victory like Greenland. Without brutalizing immigrants, what’s it all even about?

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:08 (four days ago)

They're not getting any smarter

https://bsky.app/profile/mmasnick.bsky.social/post/3mdgtwok4i22u

1/27/2026 - Minneapolis

ICE just attempted an illegal entry into the ECUADORIAN CONSULATE to abduct someone

They did not have a warrant

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:08 (four days ago)

Josh posted that in other thread, yeah.

i can't wait for this one to get picked up by Marisa Kabas and other media.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:10 (four days ago)

"i don't care if you're the constellation, you're on American soil"

not really said but I feel like it's something they probably said off camera

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:12 (four days ago)

If he dumped Miller (which is a huge 'if'), he may attempt to do more unconscionable things, but I'm not so sure he'd be able to pull them off. He might just start floundering around in his lame duck era, which is likely the best thing we could hope for.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:16 (four days ago)

Honestly I wish the midterms were sooner. Americans have serious short term memory issues. If they backed off, which it sounds like they will, I could see everyone being like, what was that ICE stuff again? I’m voting for the ones that make the economy go boom

Heez, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:19 (four days ago)

"Everyone but me is stupid" is my favorite political philosophy. It's so optimistic and motivating.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:24 (four days ago)

i would like them to back off so that people stop being deported and killed, so if that accidentally happens in the process, i'm for it

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:24 (four days ago)

that said...they're not gonna 'back off'. even reducing what they do is still brutal

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:24 (four days ago)

I’m def not saying they need to keep it up until the midterms so we can get more shitty democrats elected. I’m just doubting whether this leads to some huge blue wave

Heez, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:26 (four days ago)

Honestly I wish the midterms were sooner. Americans have serious short term memory issues. If they backed off, which it sounds like they will, I could see everyone being like, what was that ICE stuff again? I’m voting for the ones that make the economy go boom

― Heez, Tuesday, January 27, 2026 5:19 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is where i'm at too. like ... we've already had a moment like this, it was called january 6th

budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:27 (four days ago)

Who has Trump fired from this administration that has ever actually left? That super villain asshole Matt Whitaker, who was briefly attorney general? Even he is still around.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:28 (four days ago)

i guess if you bring up that they tried to overthrow the government then you have TDS though so ... i guess we should all get back to finding common ground and trying to heal this great nation

budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:28 (four days ago)

I’m “the liberal” amongst my cohort of high school friends, who I rarely talk to nowadays, but when Jan 6th happened, one of my huge Trump fan friends called and was telling me how he thought it was fucked up and too far. I saw him the same weekend that Trump got grazed by a bullet and we of course got in a borderline shouting match and I said weren’t you disgusted by Jan 6th? What happened.? His response was, that’s before I learned about how it was all a set up by the FBI. Some ppl will go to any lengths to deny what’s right in front of their faces.

Heez, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:33 (four days ago)

this is where i'm at too. like ... we've already had a moment like this, it was called january 6th

Which most of us saw stuck at home while on lockdown and which unless you were right there in DC didn't immediately have an impact on the day to day beyond the obviously symbolic once everything was more or less calmed down that evening. Don't get me wrong -- it was a horrible day. But now we're talking about things on site in 'regular' neighborhoods -- however defined -- happening to 'regular' people -- however defined -- all over the country. The differences add up from there.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:37 (four days ago)

Honestly I wish the midterms were sooner. Americans have serious short term memory issues. If they backed off, which it sounds like they will, I could see everyone being like, what was that ICE stuff again? I’m voting for the ones that make the economy go boom

― Heez, Tuesday, January 27, 2026 6:19 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

But consider: at this point in 2006, Bush already had Katrina and Social Security "reform." We already knew the House was lost to them

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:38 (four days ago)

Like Heez's friend can lose himself in that excuse for what happened then. What's the excuse here? They already tried some over the weekend and they all fell flat; that FBI that Heez's friend distrusts is run by Patel now, etc. There's no relative cover. You've even got James O'Keefe going "They actually believe in supporting each other and are motivated!" and then calling out people who want to think it's all paid for.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:39 (four days ago)

I hope you’re right!

Heez, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:39 (four days ago)

i'm not trying to equate the two things, there are differences, but as Heez example illustrates, they will find a way to brush this too under the rug, and gaslight those who say otherwise. the fact that nowadays Reagan is lionized on both sides of the aisle as a paragon of "sensible" Republicanism pretty much tells you all you need to know. fascism needs to be crushed like a cockroach -- appeals to decency and anything else are not durable solutions because the media is complicit in the whitewashing

budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:44 (four days ago)

Tillis and Murkowski calling for Noem to resign. Don't see how she survives this. But shit will continue as long as Miller survives.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:45 (four days ago)

xp i've spent the last 10 years hearing, "ha! trump can't wiggle out of this one! the tide has turned!"

i'll believe it when i see trump, noem, miller, and bovino behind bars or hanging from their necks

budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:47 (four days ago)

think youre supposed to hang them from their feet

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:49 (four days ago)

correct, apologies

budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:50 (four days ago)

crack open trump with a bat and see all the aspirin tumble out

omar little, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:53 (four days ago)

depends what we mean by 'tide has turned'.

in the first term, we mostly meant "for this nightmare to be over", and we were wrong each time.

now, I feel like we mean "we actually are having some material effect on the atrocities of this administration rather than having to watch it helplessly in horror, even though we aren't able to outright stop what is happening"

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:54 (four days ago)

I think everyone knows Noem is just a scapegoat here, and that nothing will get any better if she leaves.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:56 (four days ago)

Nine progressive prosecutors from cities around the country are launching a coalition to assist in prosecuting federal law enforcement officers who violate state laws, one of the prosecutors, Larry Krasner in Philadelphia, said on Tuesday.

The organization, which is called the Project for the Fight Against Federal Overreach, will also include Mary Moriarty, the elected prosecutor in Minneapolis. Its acronym, F.A.F.O., references a slang term for negative consequences, and its formation was spurred by “growing concerns about warrantless entries, unlawful detentions, and coercive enforcement tactics by federal agents,” according to a news release.

The handling of potentially criminal actions by federal agents has become a major issue in Minneapolis after two protesters, both U.S. citizens, were killed there this month by Department of Homeland Security officers.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation said it would not investigate the first killing, of Renee Good, a 37-year-old mother of three. She was killed in her S.U.V. on Jan. 7 as she appeared to be steering away from federal agents during a tense confrontation. Trump administration officials said that the officer who shot Ms. Good had been under attack and was acting in self-defense, and state investigators have been blocked from accessing evidence related to the episode.

After a second resident was killed — Alex Pretti, a Veteran Affairs nurse who was also 37 — federal officials initially appeared to use the same playbook. They blocked state investigators from the scene and declined to provide basic facts, like the identity of the agents involved. In both instances, bystander video contradicted key elements of the Trump administration’s account of what happened.

Facing a wave of criticism, President Trump on Tuesday promised a “very honorable and honest investigation” into Mr. Pretti’s death.

As videos and reports of ICE officers acting with aggressive force have flooded the country, a small but growing number of law enforcement officials have warned that they would arrest and prosecute federal officials who break their laws. One of the first to do so was the district attorney in San Francisco, Brooke Jenkins, after the president threatened to send National Guard troops there last October. In Minneapolis, protesters have demanded that the local police arrest ICE officers.

On Tuesday, John Choi, the top prosecutor in Ramsey County, which includes St. Paul, said his office was investigating reports of crimes by federal agents.

Trump administration officials say that ICE officers are making cities safer by removing criminals from the streets.

Normally, the F.B.I. and the Department of Justice’s Office of Civil Rights determine whether the use of deadly force by a federal agent was justified. State prosecutors also have the power to investigate and prosecute state crimes like murder, and they have often done so in cooperation with the federal government.

But that cooperation has broken down as Trump administration officials have denied that the federal agents committed any wrongdoing and accused Minnesota leaders of thwarting their immigration enforcement efforts and allowing fraud in federally funded programs.

After local officials were blocked from the investigations, Ms. Moriarty, the elected prosecutor for Hennepin County, resorted to opening a web portal to allow the public to submit evidence like cellphone videos. She has said that she expects to have enough evidence to decide whether to pursue charges in the two killings. Her office is also investigating a third incident in which a Venezuelan man was shot in the leg.

Prosecuting any police officer raises significant obstacles, since officers are authorized to use deadly force when they reasonably perceive a serious threat. The Constitution’s supremacy clause gives federal agents additional protection, though they do not have absolute immunity, as Vice President JD Vance initially claimed. They can ask for a federal court to shield them from prosecution if their actions were authorized under federal law, and if they can show that they did “no more than what was necessary and proper.”

Mr. Krasner said the new organization would provide “mutual support” to prosecutors who are “up against the might of the federal government.” So far, nine prosecutors from around the country have signed on.

“We are a very substantial tool against what I consider to be a pretty clear attempt to normalize fascism and to overthrow democracy in the United States,” he said.

Other locations whose elected prosecutors are participating include Austin; Dallas; Pima County in Arizona, which includes Tucson; and several cities in Virginia: Fairfax, Falls Church and Arlington, Portsmouth and Norfolk.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:57 (four days ago)

I’m “the liberal” amongst my cohort of high school friends, who I rarely talk to nowadays, but when Jan 6th happened, one of my huge Trump fan friends called and was telling me how he thought it was fucked up and too far. I saw him the same weekend that Trump got grazed by a bullet and we of course got in a borderline shouting match and I said weren’t you disgusted by Jan 6th? What happened.? His response was, that’s before I learned about how it was all a set up by the FBI. Some ppl will go to any lengths to deny what’s right in front of their faces.

― Heez

thank you for sharing this heez and yes, i know many people like this

Like Heez's friend can lose himself in that excuse for what happened then. What's the excuse here? They already tried some over the weekend and they all fell flat; that FBI that Heez's friend distrusts is run by Patel now, etc. There's no relative cover. You've even got James O'Keefe going "They actually believe in supporting each other and are motivated!" and then calling out people who want to think it's all paid for.

― Ned Raggett

all respect, but there will always be another excuse. i don’t see it now, maybe no one does, but there will be an excuse. if you’re viewing them through the perspective of conspiratorial/cult thinking, it makes sense. if you’re viewing it through the perspective of reason and logic, law, justice, etc, it doesn’t! so, i HOPE that they’ll see it through logic,law, justice, and will have no excuse, but i EXPECT them to view it through cult thinking, and find an excuse and never back down.

z_tbd, Tuesday, 27 January 2026 23:59 (four days ago)

*meat pinching sounds*

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:03 (three days ago)

xp to lagoon

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:04 (three days ago)

fafo! i love it!!

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:04 (three days ago)

The tsar cannot fail, he can only be failed or betrayed by his advisors and subordinates.

treeship., Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:04 (three days ago)

i watched some dumbass comment on a FB post by a friend re: the autistic woman who was dragged out of her car while trying to get to the doctor and every statement he made was 100% wrong, when people were like "she was just trying to get to the doctor" he was like "I cannot believe that is true". LIke, they just put on blinders and dig in. It's insane.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:07 (three days ago)

Her name is Aliya Rahman and she rules. But that was one of the more horrifying visuals that wasn't murder related. She was literally less than .1 of a mile from her destination and the thugs viewed split second non-compliance with their incomprehensible commands as license to brutalize her and she lost consciousness while being held.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:09 (three days ago)

Obviously they got the directive to brutalize people, anyone who seems liberal. And they were told they’d get immunity. Was this trump’s idea or miller’s?

treeship., Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:15 (three days ago)

Trump just more or less defers to others. Vance walked back the immunity thing a week ago so it's def Miller

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:19 (three days ago)

budu jeru, when did you join the board? No criticism intended; I just don't remember your name, unless you used another one.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:22 (three days ago)

My late cousin’s best friend just posted a reel saying she was nearly boxed off by ICE agents. She lives in Hopkins. Account is Liv Lane - she is a former children’s broadcaster - her husband is Programming Director at WCCO radio so maybe her account will get some traction.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:27 (three days ago)

Trump just more or less defers to others. Vance walked back the immunity thing a week ago so it's def Miller

Does he or does he play dumb so if something doesn’t work out he can push someone else onto the train tracks?

treeship., Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:40 (three days ago)

dont think the bigman is driving the ship these days hes not awake enough plus the alzheimers

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:42 (three days ago)

have we ever thought about Trump’s mental health struggles. really makes you empathize

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:47 (three days ago)

Trump still has ideas he has to be talked out of but they never come from him, they come from advisors. I.E. Peter Navarro.

Trump probably had more "original" ideas in first term but he's very much grandpa being told to take his coumadin now

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:52 (three days ago)

Her name is Aliya Rahman and she rules. But that was one of the more horrifying visuals that wasn't murder related. She was literally less than .1 of a mile from her destination and the thugs viewed split second non-compliance with their incomprehensible commands as license to brutalize her and she lost consciousness while being held.
-(Neanderthal)

My late cousin’s best friend just posted a reel saying she was nearly boxed off by ICE agents.
-(suzy)

Yeah, this is the thing, even if you're not getting involved/trying to help/packing/arguing ("Just do what they say" was the most common online advice 'til recently, and maybe still is). Even if you're at home, asleep, like some people who have been taken in, maybe released later, maybe not. Oopsy.

dow, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:52 (three days ago)

Some Minneapolis residents got gassed through walls and doors; it was seeping in from the streets---

dow, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 00:54 (three days ago)

“just do what they say” sounds great until you hear them barking contradictory orders. I’ll never forget Radley Balko posting bodycam of a cop telling a man to simultaneously “show me your hands” and “crawl towards me” before he shoots him

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 01:01 (three days ago)

Yeah, Renee Good got contradictory orders---maybe the last words she heard, except for "fuckin bitch."

dow, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 01:10 (three days ago)

Trump still has ideas he has to be talked out of but they never come from him, they come from advisors. I.E. Peter Navarro.

Trump probably had more "original" ideas in first term but he's very much grandpa being told to take his coumadin now

I think he is crazy but I am not convinced of this. Throughout his life he has always arranged things so others took the fall, cf michael cohen

treeship., Wednesday, 28 January 2026 01:15 (three days ago)

Even though some people do get released later, as I mentioned, you gotta make those quotas of arrests:

The Trump administration has set aggressive new goals in its anti-immigration agenda, demanding that federal agents arrest 3,000 people a day – or more than a million in a year.

The new target, tripling arrest figures from earlier this year, was delivered to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) leaders by Stephen Miller, the White House deputy chief of staff, and Kristi Noem, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) secretary, in a strained meeting last week.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/29/trump-ice-arrest-quota

dow, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 02:15 (three days ago)

Rep. Ilhan Omar attacked during town hall meeting in Minneapolis
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/01/27/ilhan-omar-attack-town-hall-minneapolis/

The tiny bit of footage with the story shows her going at the guy who rushed her. If the security guy hadn't grabbed him, I think she was prepared to pull his eyes out of his head.

WmC, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 02:21 (three days ago)

Yeah, and The Guardian reports:

In the moments before she was attacked during a town hall in Minneapolis, Congresswoman Ilhan Omar was calling to abolish US Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

“ICE cannot be reformed. It cannot be rehabilitated. We must abolish ICE for good. And DHS secretary Kristi Noem must resign or face impeachment,” Omar said, moments before a man lunged toward her, spraying an unknown substance with a syringe before security tackled him to the ground.

In video footage of the incident, individuals seated behind Omar urged her to get check out before continuing, but she refused to stop, saying “please don’t let them have the show”.

dow, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 02:26 (three days ago)

only charged with 3rd degree assault?
I liked Omar going after him

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 02:37 (three days ago)

Surely we’ll hear condemnations from the White House of those who inspired this act of political violence.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 02:41 (three days ago)

Yeah, and meanwhile:

U.S. Homeland Security officials have provided assistance at past Olympic Games, but critics including Milan's mayor say after the violence in Minneapolis, ICE agents are no longer welcome.

"This is a militia that kills, a militia that enters into the homes of people, signing their own permission slips," Milan Mayor Giuseppe Sala told local media. "It is clear they are not welcome in Milan, without a doubt."


https://www.npr.org/2026/01/27/nx-s1-5690100/winter-olympics-ice-agents-milan-italy

dow, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 02:42 (three days ago)

budu jeru, when did you join the board? No criticism intended; I just don't remember your name, unless you used another one.

― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, January 27, 2026 6:22 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

almost a decade at this point!

budo jeru, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 02:53 (three days ago)

enough time at least to get used to many creative misspellings of my user name

budo jeru, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 02:53 (three days ago)

Mostly about denouncing and investigating Omar:
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/politics/ilhan-omar-town-hall-attack-minneapolis-trump

dow, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 03:35 (three days ago)

God she’s a badass. I’m so grateful people like her exist

Heez, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 03:38 (three days ago)

“Minnesotans are showing up for one another in ways that people didn’t expect. We are showing the country and the world what real solitary looks like. And we should be goddamn proud of ourselves,” she said.

i know times are tough but can we get a copyeditor on the scene please?

budo jeru, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 03:38 (three days ago)

I understand the pessimism but i actually think voters will not forget about this in November and even if they did these guys were getting their asses kicked in every election before this

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 04:08 (three days ago)

Part of the reason people won't forget about it is that ICE is going to keep doing violent asshole shit every day. And that will just make people madder.

Also I just watched the Ilhan Omar video, jfc. I hope she's OK, whatever it was that he sprayed her with. But yeah, she was fierce. Righteous anger, as the moment demands.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 04:10 (three days ago)

hope that video makes the rounds if only to show her being a badass in the face of what was objectively a scarier situation than what these fucking pigs have been murdering people over

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 04:15 (three days ago)

otm

budo jeru, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 04:46 (three days ago)

and she's not a very large or imposing person, physically speaking, while the assailant certainly was

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 04:49 (three days ago)

I hope this doesn’t come off weird but I find her very beautiful

Heez, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 04:53 (three days ago)

I hope this doesn’t come off weird but I find her very beautiful

You're not alone in this. And she's funny as hell too. She's often got really good jokes in interviews, when the interviewers aren't hostile assholes trying to pin her to the wall with some bullshit Trump said.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 05:44 (three days ago)

Good music taste as well iirc

Heez, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 07:03 (three days ago)

So proud of her, and happy to give her my vote in both primaries and general elections.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 07:15 (three days ago)

i wrote her in for president last time around, best politician weve got

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 13:16 (three days ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/26/us/politics/ilhan-omar-investigation-finances.html?unlocked_article_code=1.HVA.iCCI.-0Ecff-JUKfB

Under Biden Administration, Justice Dept. Began Examining Ilhan Omar’s Finances

The inquiry, initiated by the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington, appears to have stalled for lack of evidence.

jfc these people

obvious old hat (rob), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 13:48 (three days ago)

Trump says Ilhan Omar 'probably had herself sprayed' in syringe attack

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 13:54 (three days ago)

that's a tell

obvious old hat (rob), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 13:55 (three days ago)

trump mad that he let his advisors talk him out of personally taking out his own fake assassin with his bare fists

obvious old hat (rob), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 13:57 (three days ago)

Whatever happened to that shooter guy?

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:06 (three days ago)

the secret service killed him

obvious old hat (rob), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:10 (three days ago)

jfc these people

― obvious old hat (rob), Wednesday, January 28, 2026 8:48 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

dem party conduct re omar has been altogether shameful the president will say crazy shit about her and you dont hear a peep from them

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:11 (three days ago)

xp if you meant the golf course guy, he's awaiting sentencing after being convicted

obvious old hat (rob), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:13 (three days ago)

I hope this doesn’t come off weird but I find her very beautiful

― Heez, Tuesday, January 27, 2026 11:53 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

if this was your first thought of something to post after someone was attacked, i've got news for you...

My homies buttthole surfers' record sounds like a f (Western® with Bacon Flavor), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:28 (three days ago)

that wasn't even Heez's first post after the attack was brought up, so deciding it was their "first thought" is unkind. If you don't like someone commenting on a female politician's physical appearance — which is a perfectly reasonable objection to make — why don't you say that instead of trying to make Heez seem like a pervert?

obvious old hat (rob), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:40 (three days ago)

i think it might have something to do with the way she handled getting attacked and the way she handles herself in general is what they found beautiful though

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:42 (three days ago)

xp

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:42 (three days ago)

that wasn't even Heez's first post after the attack was brought up, so deciding it was their "first thought" is unkind. If you don't like someone commenting on a female politician's physical appearance — which is a perfectly reasonable objection to make — why don't you say that instead of trying to make Heez seem like a pervert?

― obvious old hat (rob), Wednesday, January 28, 2026

otm

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:43 (three days ago)

so the chud line on this is that it was staged thankfully the response to that mostly seems to be "you morons believe ears grow back"

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:43 (three days ago)

trump saying it was staged def gives credence to the idea that his ear shooting was

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:47 (three days ago)

lots of people are saying it

obvious old hat (rob), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:48 (three days ago)

The MAGA base long ago crossed into denial of clear evidence contrary to their beliefs as a badge of faith and honor. Something the large evangelical portion of the base has long practiced anyway, so it's not much of a leap. Every fact that doesn't accord with beliefs is just God testing you or Satan tempting you.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:50 (three days ago)

I mean I was a Young Earth fundie for 3 or 4 years and they actually sought out bible verses that made references to something that could be construed as a dinosaur so that they could claim humans were alive as the same time as dinosaurs and make the 6,000 year old earth work

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:55 (three days ago)

which means Jesus was fatally injured by a T Rex, we got the whole story wrong

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:55 (three days ago)

Ecuador has filed a note of protest over the attempted incursion into their consulate yesterday

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:59 (three days ago)

Stephen Miller, a top aide to President Trump, has suggested that federal agents “may not have been following” protocol before the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti, after days in which he and other Trump administration officials portrayed the shooting as justified.

Mr. Miller said in a statement that the White House had provided “clear guidance” to the Department of Homeland Security that federal agents deployed to Minnesota as part of the administration’s immigration crackdown be used to protect “arrest teams” from people he described as “disruptors.”

“We are evaluating why the CBP team may not have been following that protocol,” Mr. Miller said in the statement, referring to agents from U.S. Customs and Border Protection, a law enforcement agency under the department. The statement was provided to The New York Times on Wednesday by a White House spokesperson and was reported earlier by CNN.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 15:01 (three days ago)

hmm very interesting, feds still running wild in minnesota despite media reports of otherwise

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 15:03 (three days ago)

never acknowledge a protocol it just opens an argument to lack of due care. or a here, an evil, maniacal, homicide based policy core. basic torts

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 15:06 (three days ago)

so uh if they're publicly admitting this his family (and Renee Goods as well?) could sue the federal government for a ton of money couldn't they?

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 15:09 (three days ago)

VARNEY: Noem accused Pretti of being a domestic terrorist. Is the admin standing by that language?

McLAUGHLIN: Initial statements were made after reports from CBP. It was a very chaotic scene

V: Would you use that expression again?

M: We have to have the investigation leading the way on this

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 15:10 (three days ago)

"In the chaos we were required to say the first thought that came into our head"

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 15:10 (three days ago)

more https://bsky.app/profile/analogkid66.bsky.social/post/3mdih5uryw22u

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 15:17 (three days ago)

post doesnt say who the emails are from fwiw

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 15:18 (three days ago)

if they’re real, they’re probably from scummy scam PACs

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 15:40 (three days ago)

“gop-way.com”

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 15:41 (three days ago)

These weasels, just so desperate to escape any trace of accountability. Noem gets shit for calling him a terrorist, she leaks that she was just repeating what Miller told her to say, and then Miller, Mr. “You have complete immunity,” turns around and punches it back down to the agents on the scene “not following protocol.” How about, you’re ALL fucking guilty. Plus Trump too of course.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 15:41 (three days ago)

Omar attacker has a lengthy history of posting the sorts of shit you'd completely expect on FB, anyone who thinks it's 'staged' is a moron. Guy is a dimwit.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 15:52 (three days ago)

the media needs to stop printing quotes from lying coward dipshit Stephen Miller

mh, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 15:53 (three days ago)

the guy who did it texted his friend to ask if he could watch his dogs for the night and told him he 'might get arrested'.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 16:09 (three days ago)

These weasels, just so desperate to escape any trace of accountability. Noem gets shit for calling him a terrorist, she leaks that she was just repeating what Miller told her to say, and then Miller, Mr. “You have complete immunity,” turns around and punches it back down to the agents on the scene “not following protocol.” How about, you’re ALL fucking guilty. Plus Trump too of course.

Again, we will eventually win because we have solidarity and each other’s backs. The fascists don’t.

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 16:10 (three days ago)

I really don't know if I'm ready to "vote blue" for any candidate who doesn't promise to put people in jail over this

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 16:16 (three days ago)

it would be such a hugely winning campaign promise and yet were seeing very few dems saying it, odd

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 16:17 (three days ago)

"Oh but we need de-escalate the rhetoric" — against the administration that came to power by leading arena chants of "Lock her up"? gtfo

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 16:22 (three days ago)

you cant expect them to say why they really dont want anyone powerful arrested

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 16:23 (three days ago)

agreed

Vicky ACAB‬ vickyacab.bsky.social‬

Bovino was an easy fall guy, pure utility player for the admin, but they have thus far been adamant about not replacing cabinet folks, its part of the whole promise of dictatorship and dictatorial immunity. FFS Hegseth is still at DoD. If Noem falls it will be a sign of true retreat, imo

https://bsky.app/profile/vickyacab.bsky.social/post/3mdhn3q5p4226

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 16:25 (three days ago)

xxp "fuck your feelings" is a good one too

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 16:26 (three days ago)

Whiney OTM

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 16:35 (three days ago)

_Trump says Ilhan Omar 'probably had herself sprayed' in syringe attack_

I am so sick of these defamatory lies.

treeship., Wednesday, 28 January 2026 16:42 (three days ago)

fuck zuck sorry if that offends

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:03 (three days ago)

he’s my dad

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:11 (three days ago)

sorry i got a little carried away

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:11 (three days ago)

zuck your feelings

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:13 (three days ago)

the guy who did it texted his friend to ask if he could watch his dogs for the night and told him he 'might get arrested'.

'a night'? that seems wildly optimistic of him to assume he'd only be arrested for the evening.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:21 (three days ago)

expecting pardon

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:23 (three days ago)

guess he was expecting to bond out

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:25 (three days ago)

can you watch my dogs forever im going to do a chemical attack on a congressperson

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:25 (three days ago)

he'll probably get a cabinet position

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:28 (three days ago)

"America's most gullible man...he probably had himself shot at", scoffed Trump later, seemingly oblivious that he was referring to himself.

nashwan, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:29 (three days ago)

Nobody's as loyal as a pet

Take my dog

please

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:29 (three days ago)

if there was any justice in this world, Omar rushing the assailant and then saying she wanted to continue would get 3 times the press Trump's fake defiant fist pump did

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:31 (three days ago)

The Department of Homeland Security agents involved in the shooting death of a protestor in Minnesota over the weekend have been placed on administrative leave, according to a D.H.S. official who emphasized the move was standard protocol.

it is standard protocol, but as of a day ago, Bovino was saying they were still out in the field

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:31 (three days ago)

crazy nobody actually cared about this dude

Candace Owens released leaked audio from Turning Point USA in which Erika Kirk is heard giggling and cheerfully discussing attendance figures, merchandise sales, and performance metrics from Charlie Kirk’s memorial event just 11 days after his death...

https://bsky.app/profile/djblack21.bsky.social/post/3mdieoynp2c25

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:34 (three days ago)

she probably has a 3D printed Charlie at home

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:34 (three days ago)

tough when your whole thing is being a callous lying pos

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:35 (three days ago)

if there was any justice in this world, Omar rushing the assailant and then saying she wanted to continue would get 3 times the press Trump's fake defiant fist pump did

― Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, January 28, 2026 12:31 PM (one minute ago)

I do hope to see this photo in wide circulation:

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:wpdti66qcvzywaum55sucghw/bafkreialqiqvlobotmh7oftuf3522mbhhasrdvtsx5yb5p5pbz5rub77hu@jpeg

obvious old hat (rob), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:37 (three days ago)

"3D Printed Charlie" one of the best Bill Orcutt albums in recent years

budo jeru, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:40 (three days ago)

The Boss responds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWKSoxG1K7w

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:52 (three days ago)

when I saw the title without the artist I thought it was a parody (song's not bad).

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:52 (three days ago)

Rubio flailing at his Senate hearing.

it's remarkable how someone this bad at speaking and with this much nervous energy ever got appointed to anything other than "video game tester"

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:55 (three days ago)

he’s on his cousin’s coke

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:57 (three days ago)

https://i.postimg.cc/HsHV23hW/io.png

budo jeru, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:57 (three days ago)

crazy nobody actually cared about this dude

tbf he was a piece of shit

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 17:59 (three days ago)

he only rose into view because people with deep pockets were looking for a pos to sponsor

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:06 (three days ago)

lol for serious she not only squared up she actually advanced on him. She did everything but take off her earrings, and to be fair she didn't have time.

I was standing very close with two men who almost got into a physical fight about a month ago, and I reacted by stepping back from the building confrontation (I wish I had stepped forward to de-escalate on behalf of one of them, in hindsight) and I'm trying to prepare myself to do better next time. Rep Omar is #goals.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:10 (three days ago)

yeah her instincts were infallible -- you can't plan what she did.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:12 (three days ago)

That series of Omar freeze frames should be available as literal wallpaper.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:16 (three days ago)

jesus rough stuff

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:27 (three days ago)

The master race.

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:30 (three days ago)

weird and eyeroll-y to blame "the algorithm" based on that depressing as hell list

obvious old hat (rob), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:30 (three days ago)

he's hardly a victim

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:31 (three days ago)

not trying to excuse his actions but he is a victim of the dog eat dog world as we all are *except for billionaires senators etc

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:32 (three days ago)

i feel like there's a missing part in there where the NYT interviewed him trying to understand the perspective of trump voters

omar little, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:32 (three days ago)

or the dog eat dog country as it were

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:33 (three days ago)

I already felt bad for the people of Minneapolis, but now that they've had a Bruce Springsteen song inflicted on them...

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:34 (three days ago)

Didn't the last thing happen on 1/27?

* Loudly rumbles about jailhouse cheese & bologna sandwich 1/28/26

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:34 (three days ago)

Should say, dunno the origin of that list, could all be BS.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:37 (three days ago)

that did cross my mind, awfully detailed for something that happened last night

obvious old hat (rob), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:47 (three days ago)

it's a list of things Soros agents need to insert in his social media history

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:51 (three days ago)

I just sent Ilhan Omar $50, making her still the only politician I've ever given money to. I sent her some during Trump's first term when he made that comment about how she should go back where she came from. Only downside is now I will get 10,000 messages a day from other Dems wanting money.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:52 (three days ago)

If he had his FB set to public, would’ve been easy.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:52 (three days ago)

I haven't been on FB since 2015, are people really out there posting "today I got a DWI" "oopsie happened again! ROFL"

obvious old hat (rob), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:53 (three days ago)

That stuff seems like public records

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:54 (three days ago)

So apparently the ICE fascist who was recorded as saying "If you raise your voice, I'll erase your voice" was identified

https://bsky.app/profile/pacantifa.is/post/3mdh5pfsc622b

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:56 (three days ago)

making her still the only politician I've ever given money to.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, January 28, 2026 1:52 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

salute

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 18:58 (three days ago)

two ICE officers involved in the Pretti shooting have been put on administrative leave

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 19:01 (three days ago)

That stuff seems like public records

― Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Wednesday, January 28, 2026 1:54 PM (six minutes ago)

ah right. and actually I read one of those "what we know about" articles and it could def be legit

obvious old hat (rob), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 19:02 (three days ago)

https://www.episcopalchurch.org/protesting-faithfully-toolkit/

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 19:24 (three days ago)

So apparently the ICE fascist who was recorded as saying "If you raise your voice, I'll erase your voice" was identified

https://bsky.app/profile/pacantifa.is/post/3mdh5pfsc622b🕸

Good.

treeship., Wednesday, 28 January 2026 19:28 (three days ago)

not trying to excuse his actions but he is a victim of the dog eat dog world as we all are *except for billionaires senators etc

He is not a victim of the algorithim. He is the kind of person MAGA has been actively cultivating for a decade. They purposefully translate people’s despair into anger toward minorities. That is their strategy.

treeship., Wednesday, 28 January 2026 19:33 (three days ago)

Same as it ever was.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 19:53 (three days ago)

lol

"Fanatics" are now just people who enforce the law, apparently. Maybe this guy should read up on the actual history of the Catholic Church, which at various points (the Reconquista, etc.) has not only sanctioned but actively participated in mass deportations. https://t.co/EHwA8DgG6P

— Notre Dame College Republicans (@NDRepublicans) January 27, 2026

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 19:59 (three days ago)

oh putting minorities in the iron maiden is bad now i guess

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 20:00 (three days ago)

"Between the Christianity of this land, and the Christianity of Christ, I recognize the widest possible difference—so wide, that to receive the one as good, pure, and holy, is of necessity to reject the other as bad, corrupt, and wicked."
- Frederick Douglass

Tell me who sends these infamous .gifs (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 20:02 (three days ago)

The Vice President has St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas, and indeed the entire mainstream Christian and natural law traditions on his side. His critics have, on their side, woolly liberal bromides and foot-stomping.

^ Feeser tweet. what a charmer this guy is

budo jeru, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 20:03 (three days ago)

hilarious that ND college turds think he's a RINO fink tho

budo jeru, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 20:04 (three days ago)

as a Lutheran, I regretfully inform you the Pope is the Antichrist and Catholics are going to hell

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 20:06 (three days ago)

circular firing squad going on between the right wingers who like a little violence and the ones who want all the violence

mh, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 20:07 (three days ago)

Rats in a sack is SOP.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 20:17 (three days ago)

The man accused of attacking Rep. Ilhan Omar during a Tuesday evening town hall meeting in Minnesota is a “piece of s**t” with lifelong anger issues who has been fixated on the Somali-born lawmaker – and the Somali diaspora in general – for years, his younger brother told The Independent.

“I’m not surprised this happened,” Anthony James Kazmierczak’s brother said Wednesday morning in a phone interview from his home in North Carolina. “Not at all. Unfortunately, he and my mother are both right-wing extremists.”

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 20:21 (three days ago)

I do like how the go to quote for stories like these has evolved from "he was a such a quiet guy" to "oh he did? yeah that makes total sense, he was an assshole"

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 20:23 (three days ago)

people are def more willing to let you when someone is a pos these day

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 20:25 (three days ago)

Would it be cruel and unusual punishment to get Ilhan her gundam and let her drive it over this schmuck?

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 20:27 (three days ago)

the fact that his little brother came out and said this makes me feel better about cutting my older brother out of my life for being like that

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 20:31 (three days ago)

Brad Lander spotted in NE Mpls on patrol with City Council president Elliott Payne

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 20:37 (three days ago)

Hey Josh, where is that quote from?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 20:44 (three days ago)

gluesenkamp doesnt seem like shes doing great https://bsky.app/profile/gluesenkampperez.house.gov/post/3mdj336uf5c27

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 21:10 (three days ago)

“He needs help, period... In my mind, he’s a piece of s**t.”

akm: here
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ilhan-omar-attack-anthony-kazmierczak-brother-b2909613.html?test_group=lighteradlayout

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 21:12 (three days ago)

xpost Auditioning for "strung-out politician" role in new Linklater film?

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 21:16 (three days ago)

after all this time, Dem politicians still think smug videos are what their fatigued voters want

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 21:19 (three days ago)

“Self-own” doesn’t quite say it

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 21:24 (three days ago)

couldnt have come close if they tried

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 21:25 (three days ago)

free Adam Duritz

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 21:29 (three days ago)

that's a shaggy terror cell for sure

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 21:32 (three days ago)

(xp) And stop that guy from taking a piss beside him

Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 21:43 (three days ago)

kinda has a Blair Witch vibe

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 21:49 (three days ago)

Might as well have posted their agents in the cuck chair

colonic interrogation (gyac), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 22:13 (three days ago)

those photos are incredible

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 22:15 (three days ago)

They think it makes them scary, not showing their faces. imo it was definitely disconcerting at first, like in the video of Rumeysa Ozturk being grabbed on the street by masked men, it really was a "what the fuck" moment. But we've had a year to see this shit and they're still scary because they're brutalizing and killing people, but not because they won't show their faces. That just makes them look scared.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 22:19 (three days ago)

do they really not understand the symbolism of this

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 22:20 (three days ago)

it's crazy that all these people are just posting mugshots straight to their twitter feed

budo jeru, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 22:21 (three days ago)

do they really not understand the symbolism of this

― frogbs, Wednesday, January 28, 2026 5:20 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

theyre way on the other side of the looking glass

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 22:30 (three days ago)

it's crazy that all these people are just posting mugshots straight to their twitter feed

Sharing these photos publicly (and they were shared by Pam fucking Bondi herself) is a direct violation of DOJ policy and may be grounds for all these cases being thrown out of court; never mind the fact that they're virtually guaranteeing jury nullification.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 22:43 (three days ago)

I think the degree to which ICE agents are treating all this like a videogame is even greater than people imagine. The report about them counting bullet holes in Pretti's body made me think of the text sent by the goon who shot Marimel Martinez in Chicago, where he gloated about how many bullets went in and came out. These weird faceless trophy hunter photos, I'm sure they trade all this shit back and forth and keep counts. At some point we'll probably get a leaked text chain or something. They don't give a fuck, they think they're doing cool stuff.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 22:50 (three days ago)

prob a non-zero part of posting peoples' mugshots is a reaction to the doxxing works that people are doing to ICE chuds. "see we can do it too" except all these protesters seem sexy and ICE chuds look like arthritic thumbs

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 22:50 (three days ago)

https://i.ibb.co/q3td5c9H/Screenshot-2026-01-28-at-6-20-55-PM.png

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 23:21 (three days ago)

Some reports are saying the guy just sprayed apple cider vinegar on ilhan omar. Thank god, of course, but also why?

treeship., Wednesday, 28 January 2026 23:30 (three days ago)

gotta be some 20 levels deep conspiracy shit

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 23:31 (three days ago)

or i guess just old fashioned mental illness or some combination of the two or really whats the difference

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 23:33 (three days ago)

maybe he thought the vinegar would make him invisible and impossible to arrest

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 23:34 (three days ago)

you actually need to use rice vinegar for that

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 23:35 (three days ago)

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/28/immigration-minnesota-order-00754053

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 23:36 (three days ago)

Liam Ramos is sick with a fever and half the elected Democrats are still tiptoeing around shit huh

colonic interrogation (gyac), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 23:36 (three days ago)

Alex Pretti, the intensive-care nurse shot by federal agents on Saturday, appears to have been filmed at a protest against immigration agents in Minneapolis days before his fatal encounter in footage that was published Wednesday by a news outlet called The News Movement and verified by The New York Times.

In the video, a man is shown kicking a taillight on an S.U.V. and cursing at federal agents in the vehicle, prompting agents to push him to the ground and hold him there for about 20 seconds before letting him go. The man’s clothes and appearance match those of Pretti’s when he was killed, and when he gets back to his feet in the video, it appears that a gun is sticking out from his waistband. The news outlet said the footage was taken on Jan. 13, which is 11 days before Pretti was killed.

here we go with the character assassination and the planned defense

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 23:39 (three days ago)

I am a little annoyed at the 'backed down/away' framing I keep seeing because the original order specifically was about one guy being released and Schiltz said if that happened then great, no need to question in this specific case. He was released, ergo, so this is Schlitz essentially going "Yeah it took that for the release to happen, your overall record is terrible, and now that has been specifically spelled out by me here in this order, that's where you all now stand for next time and I've spelled out what happens if this happens again." The whole point is to establish a further record in writing and he's clearly done that here, so DOJ drones can't whine and say they didn't know.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 January 2026 23:40 (three days ago)

agreed. people are going to get frustrated and say he let them off the hook, but that isn't really what happened. it was always stipulated that this request would be rescinded if the individual was released, it was a mechanism to make it happen. he also knows if he demands the government gets into compliance on the other 95 clients by Friday 'or else' that they'll appeal to a higher court who'll stay it (even if the order isn't appealable)

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 23:43 (three days ago)

a judge has already gotten pissed off at Bondi over the pics

In a Minneapolis federal court where 16 protesters were charged on Wednesday with assaulting immigration agents, Judge Dulce J. Foster said she was “deeply disturbed” that Attorney General Pam Bondi had published photographs of some of the defendants on social media.

Judge Foster said images of people who are presumed innocent should not be shared. “This conduct is not something that the court condones,” she said.

Ms. Bondi, who said on social media that she was in Minneapolis on Monday, posted photographs of 11 of the defendants shortly before Wednesday’s hearing, calling them “rioters.”

The defendants “have been resisting and impeding our federal law enforcement agents,” she wrote on X. “We expect more arrests to come.”

“Nothing will stop President Trump and this Department of Justice from enforcing the law,” she added.

In court on Wednesday, prosecutors asked Judge Foster to order the defendants not to contact the federal agents whom they are accused of assaulting. The judge refused, because prosecutors have not revealed the identity of those agents.

Lisa Lopez, a lawyer who represents several of the defendants, said Ms. Bondi’s post was “very dangerous.” Sharing the photographs, she said, could bring harm to her clients.

“They don’t get the same courtesy,” Ms. Lopez said, “as masked agents.”

About 50 people, including the defendants’ family and friends, watched the proceedings. As each defendant went before the judge, some of them sat close together, gently patting one another on the back.

One of the women who was arrested had a seizure on Wednesday morning, and was hospitalized.

After the hearings, Mohamed Ahmed, 55, the father of Nasra Ahmed, who is accused of assaulting a federal agent, said his daughter had sustained a concussion during her encounter and had to go to a hospital for treatment.

“I’m grateful she’s still alive,” Mr. Ahmed said.

“To watch your daughter intimidated and harassed is very sad, very emotional,” he added. “She’s scared.”

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 23:47 (three days ago)

Kicking a taillight? Cursing! Such violent acts! The man was a terrorist. And he brought his perfectly legal gun to that protest, so you know he was planning a massacre of federal officers, despite his not having made any move to draw his weapon, aim it, or fire it. He was so consumed with murderous rage he forgot he was armed.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 23:48 (three days ago)

Trump administration officials invited a handful of Senate Democrats to meet with White House staff to discuss a path forward on the bill to fund the Homeland Security Department ahead of Friday midnight deadline, according to two officials. Those Democrats, who voted in November with Republicans to reopen the government, declined the offer, they said.

Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader, said at a news conference at the Capitol on Wednesday that the White House had so far offered “no specific, good concrete ideas” on reforms to rein in ICE.

countdown to Fetterman going on tv and bitching about them not meeting with the White House in 3...2...

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 January 2026 23:51 (three days ago)

All they’re looking for is an excuse

treeship., Wednesday, 28 January 2026 23:52 (three days ago)

https://www.lawdork.com/p/hennepin-county-attorney-mary-moriarty

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 January 2026 01:47 (two days ago)

This FBI raid (with Tulsi in tow) seizing 2020 election ballots from Fulton County, Ga., is obviously bad.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/28/politics/fulton-county-election-office-fbi-warrant

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 January 2026 02:17 (two days ago)

it’s obviously bad, it’s also like what a sore fucking loser. such a pathetic excuse for a human being

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 29 January 2026 02:28 (two days ago)

I feel like it mostly has to do with fucking with this year's and 2028's Georgia elections. Giving the state's Republicans an excuse to do I don't know what — take over the count in Fulton County or something.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 January 2026 02:32 (two days ago)

And of course furthering the We Wuz Robbed mythology, throwing both past and future elections into question.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 January 2026 02:33 (two days ago)

he's such a piece of shit, we were 6-7 inches from all this being a bad dream

omar little, Thursday, 29 January 2026 02:35 (two days ago)

6-7

symsymsym, Thursday, 29 January 2026 02:49 (two days ago)

pretty sure Stormy said Trump was much shorter than that

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 29 January 2026 02:51 (two days ago)

this is the kind of common sense solution so missing from our politics these days

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:zk4c7oxwdsw72v7u2njve7kh/bafkreidoh4njmg4o4rfi6ckbgddwuq355lza7fps2rsr7zyayn5sie5fhq@jpeg

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2026 02:53 (two days ago)

anyway the Bezos Post back then did great reporting about Trumpworld fuckery in Georgia in 2020. Will they now? Will they fuck.

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 29 January 2026 02:53 (two days ago)

that guy has quite a wiki page:

Controversies
In June 2023, Forhan came to the home of Representative Juanita Brent unannounced with the stated purpose of discussing complaints levied against him to House Democratic leadership by local labor groups. Brent characterized the visit as "inappropriate" and "upsetting." Following this incident, Forhan was removed from his position as ranking member of the House Government Oversight Committee.[6][7] Brent also filed a civil protection order against Forhan.[8] On November 16, 2023, House Minority Leader Allison Russo announced that she was stripping Forhan of his committee assignments and access to House Democratic caucus staff for displaying a "continued pattern of harassment, hostility, and intimidation of colleagues and staff." This decision was made following a confrontation with Representative Munira Abdullahi over a video that Forhan had posted online regarding a request from caucus staff to remove an Israeli flag that he had placed outside of his office door.[7]

On November 20, 2023, House Speaker Jason Stephens announced that he was suspending Forhan's badge access to the Ohio Statehouse and the Vern Riffe Center, where the offices of state representatives are located. Dave Yost, the Ohio Attorney General, appointed a special counsel to investigate Forhan's behavior at Stephens's request.[9] The Ohio Attorney General found the legislature's punishment to be appropriate.[10] In April 2024, the Cuyahoga County Court of Common Pleas found that Brent failed to prove that Forhan knowingly engaged in a pattern of conduct that caused her to believe that she would be physically harmed or caused mental distress.[10]

On September 15, 2025, Forhan posted an image on his personal Facebook page with a red background and the words "F*** Charlie Kirk", who was assassinated five days before the post was made. Forhan’s social media posts have prompted significant pushback, both on the internet and from Republicans in the state, with many calling on him to withdraw from the race for Ohio Attorney General.[11]

On January 27, 2026, Forhan stated, "I am going to kill Donald Trump." Specifying that, if elected as the Ohio Attorney General, he would prosecute US President Donald Trump with treason[12] and seek capital punishment.[13]

Personal life
Forhan is the son of two women whose wedding he officiated after the Obergefell v. Hodges Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage.[2]

symsymsym, Thursday, 29 January 2026 03:17 (two days ago)

Some reports are saying the guy just sprayed apple cider vinegar on ilhan omar. Thank god, of course, but also why?

― treeship., Wednesday, January 28, 2026 5:30 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

he was trying to give her the jordan peterson treatment, hopefully she doesn't spiral into a manic depressive episode for the next seven years

budo jeru, Thursday, 29 January 2026 03:17 (two days ago)

look in politics everything is a negotiation, this is a good starting point but we could be negotiated down to shooting him in the leg

frogbs, Thursday, 29 January 2026 03:37 (two days ago)

really startin to dawn on me how fucked up the whole "nobody must know the identities of our lawless goons" thing is, that's the part I cannot believe conservatives are actually accepting, that said I just don't think this shit is gonna fly in America for very long especially since it's gonna make law enforcement look really bad. I mean the other day I'm seeing this stuff from Sesame Street about how to talk to kids about traumatic events and it's obviously about the fact that government agents murdered two people, pretty far cry from the "cops are your friends" era I remember

frogbs, Thursday, 29 January 2026 04:00 (two days ago)

well, they wouldn’t be a secret police then if their identities weren’t secret

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 29 January 2026 04:14 (two days ago)

When I read Fohran saying "I will kill him" it was obvious he was a loon. The fact that he is a Democrat candidate for Attorney General of Ohio only means he ponied up the filing fee. Presumably there will be at least one non-loon Democratic candidate in the primary.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 29 January 2026 04:22 (two days ago)

Some reports are saying the guy just sprayed apple cider vinegar on ilhan omar. Thank god, of course, but also why?

There was also supposed to be someone with a cruel full of extra virgin olive oil, but that guy accidentally went the wrong way on the interstate and arrived too late.

The guy with who was going to offer fresh-ground black pepper wussed out.

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 January 2026 04:30 (two days ago)

*cruet dammit

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 January 2026 04:30 (two days ago)

that glusenkamp perez lady enrages me. that video is enraging, her stupid face and smug shitty way of speaking. fuck off into the sun!

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 29 January 2026 05:35 (two days ago)

What a country!

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/28/nx-s1-5691764/fulton-county-fbi-search-election

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 January 2026 09:21 (two days ago)

Heartened that the word "baseless" appears twice in that NPR story

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Thursday, 29 January 2026 09:52 (two days ago)

Would they really keep 2020 ballots there this long?

nashwan, Thursday, 29 January 2026 09:55 (two days ago)

If they didn't I'm sure someone could magic some "new" ones up

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Thursday, 29 January 2026 10:20 (two days ago)

"Hmm, amazing how the ink is still wet on these"

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 January 2026 10:43 (two days ago)

Heartened to hear the DA of Pennsylvania saying (regarding ICE),

“There will be accountability now. There will be accountability in the future. There will be accountability after Trump is out of office. If we have to hunt you down the way they hunted down Nazis for decades, we will find your identities. We will find you. We will achieve justice, and we will do so under the Constitution and the laws of the United States.”

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Thursday, 29 January 2026 11:00 (two days ago)

Odd passive voice constructions.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2026 11:19 (two days ago)

More politicos need to say what the PA guy said, and say it repeatedly, and mean it (and maybe getting like one extra staffer edit before saying it)

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 January 2026 11:23 (two days ago)

From the fourth sentence on it's fairly explicitly non-passive.

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Thursday, 29 January 2026 11:36 (two days ago)

the shit that matters is active transitive tho it’s fine

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Thursday, 29 January 2026 11:48 (two days ago)

xp what stevie said

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Thursday, 29 January 2026 11:48 (two days ago)

everyone otm.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 January 2026 12:06 (two days ago)

Just saw someone literally doing the "He's no angel" bit about Pretti because of the video where he kicked an ICE car. And it's like, what are you suggesting? That they would have been justified murdering him then for kicking their tail light? Or that they were justified killing him 10 days later for kicking a car 10 days earlier?

I imagine that will play for the Fox crowd in terms of demonizing him, but it just makes him seem more righteous to many of the rest of us. He kicked ICE, good for him.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 January 2026 12:14 (two days ago)

I keep thinking about the videos we have of Pretti, from these different angles, and of the people holding those phones, and how Pretti himself was holding a phone. How they were all essentially doing the same thing. It could have been any of them. And Pretti's phone would have been the phone that captured the key video evidence of someone else being killed. But that's not how it happened because of essentially randomness, that ICE shoved someone down right next to him, and he went to try to help. All these people with their phones, knowing it could be them next but doing it anyway, it's very moving to me

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 January 2026 12:26 (two days ago)

From the fourth sentence on it's fairly explicitly non-passive.

― the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie),

Yeah, I missed it. Thanks.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2026 12:53 (two days ago)

Chyron on Fox: "The Left Won't Stop Calling ICE Nazis."

I think Fox should use ICE and Nazis in headlines together as much as possible, thx.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 January 2026 13:39 (two days ago)

I’ve been having smokes with this random German dude recently and I asked him about AFD and his response was, in English with a heavy German accent, “if you like them people call you a nazi!” So I found a new smoking section

Heez, Thursday, 29 January 2026 13:45 (two days ago)

All these people with their phones, knowing it could be them next but doing it anyway, it's very moving to me

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, January 29, 2026 6:26 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

yea one thing that is at least a little inspiring is knowing the entire country hasn't fallen victim to internet brain, these are real people in real communities seeing atrocities committed against their neighbors, it goes beyond partisan politics and I suspect it's why he isn't trying this shit in swing states yet. if he sends the goons to Wisconsin he is going to get crushed here in 2026 and 2028. even worse than he already is.

frogbs, Thursday, 29 January 2026 14:29 (two days ago)

This Homan guy continues to prove himself to be a huge pile of shit. He needs to go.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 January 2026 14:34 (two days ago)

maybe we can start a GoFundMe for him, stuff all the money into a sack and give it to him to fuck off forever

frogbs, Thursday, 29 January 2026 14:49 (two days ago)

I thought i was losing my mind when they were acting like bringing in the bribe taking ham head in was some kind of godsend, that will fix the situation there.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 29 January 2026 15:04 (two days ago)

You get what you get and you don't get upset.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 January 2026 15:09 (two days ago)

Just saw someone literally doing the "He's no angel" bit about Pretti because of the video where he kicked an ICE car. And it's like, what are you suggesting? That they would have been justified murdering him then for kicking their tail light? Or that they were justified killing him 10 days later for kicking a car 10 days earlier?

I imagine that will play for the Fox crowd in terms of demonizing him, but it just makes him seem more righteous to many of the rest of us. He kicked ICE, good for him.

The opinion of conservatives is that people who aren’t perfect according to their definition deserve to die. This isn’t new with them.

treeship., Thursday, 29 January 2026 15:29 (two days ago)

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that anyone associated with this administration is also corrupt--what's Homan done, graft-wise?

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 29 January 2026 15:30 (two days ago)

I feel like it's getting lost among the ultraviolence, but people need to realize just how corrupt this whole administration is

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 29 January 2026 15:31 (two days ago)

Unprecedented levels of corruption. I don’t think we have a clear picture of how DOGE played into it all—the selling off of our government for profit.

treeship., Thursday, 29 January 2026 15:33 (two days ago)

what's Homan done, graft-wise?

Homan literally took a bag of cash in an FBI bribery sting right before he was appointed. Won't even say what happened to the money.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 January 2026 15:35 (two days ago)

re Homan: https://www.ms.now/news/tom-homan-cash-contracts-trump-doj-investigation-rcna232568

this is a long look at one deportee from Alabama, lots of enraging and heartbreaking details:
https://www.al.com/news/2026/01/football-referee-forced-to-leave-alabama-for-mexico-how-many-kids-would-get-deported-for-that.html

obvious old hat (rob), Thursday, 29 January 2026 15:36 (two days ago)

you could read that ms article or just look at Homan's "I take bribes" face

obvious old hat (rob), Thursday, 29 January 2026 15:37 (two days ago)

corruption IS virtue in this regime. because then you are not a fuckin sucker loser. it is so welded into maga and trumpists.

in a way it is the very essence of grift. in fact, if as a grifter you not see the grift and tolerate it, you are in trouble because you are the mark.

i learned this at age 22 by watching The Grifters

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Thursday, 29 January 2026 15:51 (two days ago)

fuck Obama forever for giving Homan some stupid presidential award. piece of shit alcoholic my kids don't talk to me ass loser

budo jeru, Thursday, 29 January 2026 15:54 (two days ago)

yeah what an embarrassment

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 29 January 2026 16:00 (two days ago)

I read that the Obama administration after giving Homan an award did though draw the line on Homan’s suggestion that they do family separations . Evil Homan had better luck with that horrendous idea during Trump 1st administration

curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 January 2026 16:04 (two days ago)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUEgpeCEaYt/?igsh=MXRvMXJjZmRvY3p4aA==

Meanwhile while Dem Tom Suozzi has now attempted to backtrack and sort of apologize for being 1 of 7 Dem house votes for full ICe/ DHS funding, some protesters gave him an earful at an event he was talking at

curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 January 2026 16:06 (two days ago)

xpost We'll draw the line at giving you an award but not a Waffle party.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 January 2026 16:07 (two days ago)

how about a lemon party

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 29 January 2026 16:12 (two days ago)

https://www.al.com/news/2026/01/football-referee-forced-to-leave-alabama-for-mexico-how-many-kids-would-get-deported-for-that.html

^ tremendous article, thank you Rob. absolutely heartbreaking but in a weird way it's positive that these kind of articles are being written up in big mainstream publications now. shit like this has gone on for so long.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 January 2026 17:19 (two days ago)

and for what? for what??? fucking shit man

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 January 2026 17:19 (two days ago)

every time I read a story about people being deported to countries they aren't from, I want to know "and then what?!" quite literal nightmare fuel, I feel sympathetic anxiety imagining it. so yeah I was glad, so to speak, to see this

obvious old hat (rob), Thursday, 29 January 2026 17:22 (two days ago)

wonder if he's still a Trump supporter

budo jeru, Thursday, 29 January 2026 17:28 (two days ago)

Wow.

The massive government funding package just failed badly in the Senate, 45-55.

Needed 60.

Zero Democrats voted for it.

SEVEN Republicans opposed it:

Budd
Johnson
Lee
Paul
Moody
Rick Scott
Tuberville

(John Thune switched his vote to no for procedural reasons.)

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 29 January 2026 17:49 (two days ago)

every time I read a story about people being deported to countries they aren't from, I want to know "and then what?!" quite literal nightmare fuel, I feel sympathetic anxiety imagining it. so yeah I was glad, so to speak, to see this

Seconded, also ppl getting sent to countries they have citizenship in but moved early in life so do not speak the language or know anyone.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 29 January 2026 17:53 (two days ago)

nightmare fuel is definitely the right word for it

budo jeru, Thursday, 29 January 2026 17:55 (two days ago)

what's tuberville's angle?

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 29 January 2026 18:13 (two days ago)

He needed to get to a Klan meeting

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 January 2026 18:25 (two days ago)

ppl getting sent to countries they have citizenship in but moved early in life so do not speak the language or know anyone

I remember hearing a story years ago about some small time criminal being deported to the Canary Islands, where he left as a toddler... he knew absolutely no one, didn't speak the language and was sleeping in a bus shelter until some church group or something found him accommodations

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 January 2026 18:29 (two days ago)

Surprised that Tillis isn’t on that list considering how critical he has been of Trump, Miller, and Noem lately

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 29 January 2026 18:30 (two days ago)

Too busy blaming Ilhan Omar for being attacked.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 January 2026 18:32 (two days ago)

And where are the queens of concern, Collins and Murkowski?

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 29 January 2026 18:48 (two days ago)

https://prospect.org/2026/01/29/congress-democrats-determined-squander-advantage-dhs-funding/

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 January 2026 18:56 (two days ago)

Collins got Trump to pull ICE out of Maine, so she’s on side.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 29 January 2026 18:57 (two days ago)

man can we clone her?

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 29 January 2026 20:36 (two days ago)

I've never been a huge fan of her one way or another, tbh. No real issue or anything like that, just hadn't thought that much about her. But what I want in a leader, especially someone that could get us out of this morass, is a fighter, someone that won't roll over after (or before) a punch, someone that will push back. So folks like Omar, AOC, Crockett, afaict Juliana Stratton, who is running for senate here (and I think is the only candidate for the open seat who has said "abolish ICE"), I am all-in on that shit. Probably not a coincidence that they are all female POC and don't have the luxury of being all mealymouthed about policies that will directly affect them and their families.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 January 2026 20:45 (two days ago)

Glusenkamp looks like she's done some fighting with the imaginary roaches crawling on her skin.

Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 January 2026 20:47 (two days ago)

https://www.reuters.com/world/ice-officers-minnesota-directed-not-interact-with-agitators-new-orders-2026-01-29/

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 January 2026 22:14 (two days ago)

if thats all true they might as well just go home

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2026 22:31 (two days ago)

but theres a lot of pretending going on right now lot of people in washington of both parties would very much like this story to go away without actually doing anything to change the conditions that are causing it

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2026 22:33 (two days ago)

otm

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 January 2026 22:41 (two days ago)

The opinion of conservatives is that people who aren’t perfect according to their definition deserve to die. This isn’t new with them.

― treeship., Thursday, January 29, 2026 10:29 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Masha Gessen had a really good piece recently about this in Russia. Even families of the people who were murdered do this, just to make sense of the senseless

Heez, Thursday, 29 January 2026 22:45 (two days ago)

not sure what the dems are up to here

Sahil Kapur‬ sahilkapur.bsky.social‬

🚨 The Senate has agreed to a deal to vote on 5/6 full appropriations bills and replace the DHS funding measure with a 2-week stopgap bill, per multiple sources. That gives time to negotiate on the Dem demands for ICE and CBP restraints.

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2026 22:49 (two days ago)

aiui it's to narrow the showdown to DHS funding, not hold up the funding for other parts of the government. The Dem demands aren't enough to start with imo and losing any of them to "negotiation" will make them less sufficient still. But also it's good they're not just letting it glide through like the House did, they have some awareness of the broader politics.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 January 2026 22:57 (two days ago)

Glusenkamp looks like she's done some fighting with the imaginary roaches crawling on her skin.

she twitches like someone I know who has a neurological issue

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 29 January 2026 22:59 (two days ago)

We all know how the Georgia thing is going to go down right? They are going to “find” those ballots and say he should have won the state, then try and use that as pretext to justify a 2028 run.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 29 January 2026 23:02 (two days ago)

I don't know. That's the most cartoon villain scenario, and so definitely can't be ruled out. I think it has more to do with giving the state an excuse to take over Fulton County elections, which the state election board (dominated by Republicans) already wants to do. Fucking with polling places and times and mail-in ballots in the county with the state's largest Black population could be enough to tip some races.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 January 2026 23:12 (two days ago)

You don’t think we have a buck of cartoon villains in the highest offices?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 29 January 2026 23:19 (two days ago)

bunch*

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 29 January 2026 23:20 (two days ago)

Can I make this bet somewhere?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 29 January 2026 23:21 (two days ago)

I heard some pundit conjecture that it was more of a dress rehearsal for the midterms, to see what they can get away with

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 January 2026 23:22 (two days ago)

Probably both

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 29 January 2026 23:34 (two days ago)

Fucking with polling places and times and mail-in ballots in the county with the state's largest Black population could be enough to tip some races.

OK, so you cheat your way to victory in one county in Georgia? You don't think that pisses off enough people in other counties, in other states, that other close elections then flip against you? That's the problem with this nefarious plan, to me - that it will provoke a reactionary backlash in favor of Democrats everywhere else.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 29 January 2026 23:50 (two days ago)

I'm not saying it's a great strategy. These guys are thugs, not geniuses.

You don’t think we have a bunch of cartoon villains in the highest offices?

Oh absolutely, that's why I said it couldn't be ruled out. I mean, it's really just the 2020 playbook revamped, trying to create chaos and doubt in swing states with the hope of either suppressing vote to their advantage or creating "plausible" grounds for post-facto challenges.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 30 January 2026 00:11 (yesterday)

I don't know, I think this is even more sinister than what happened in 2020, and it has already been taken further

Dan S, Friday, 30 January 2026 00:17 (yesterday)

It's definitely more sinister! They didn't get to seize the ballots in 2020. By my math, if they can engineer doubts about just 3 percent of the Democratic Fulton County ballots from 2020, that would be enough to claim Trump should have won the state. But relitigating 2020 is the vanity part of the equation, it's creating doubts about the next ones that really matters.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 30 January 2026 00:25 (yesterday)

yes, they want to fuck with the midterms

Dan S, Friday, 30 January 2026 00:34 (yesterday)

There’s a million people in Fulton county, 3% of the ballots would be a ton and I’m sure many of those people would come forward

frogbs, Friday, 30 January 2026 00:53 (yesterday)

this is the official ICE website, i mean we all already know, i know, but it's just so pathetic

https://i.postimg.cc/2yBrDVjW/join-ice.png

budo jeru, Friday, 30 January 2026 01:03 (yesterday)

xp Yeah that's the problem for them, there's not anything at all for them to actually find. That's why I don't think they'll make specific allegations about 2020 ballots that they would have to actually prove anywhere. It's more about creating a sense of distrust.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 30 January 2026 01:04 (yesterday)

'You do not need an undergraduate degree' lol

or even a high school degree

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 30 January 2026 01:09 (yesterday)

Today on C-SPAN, which has been v. on point lately, I saw immigration attorney Eric Lee making a statement while flanked by relatives of detainees at a family jail---also backed by a chorus of child detainees demanding freedom---here he and Javier Hidalgo describe conditions in the jail, plights of certain detainees, historical context (incl. Obama Admin, and limitations of the Flores Decision)
https://www.democracynow.org/2026/1/29/dilley_tx_ice_jail_family_detention

dow, Friday, 30 January 2026 02:05 (yesterday)

They are going to “find” those ballots and say he should have won the state, then try and use that as pretext to justify a 2028 run.

that doesn't make any sense, he ran again in 2024 and won so he'll still have finished 2 terms and therefore can't win again. If he'd won in 2020 he wouldn't be qualified to have run in '24.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 30 January 2026 02:16 (yesterday)

There's no legal justification, just a framework for semi-plausable excuses.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 30 January 2026 02:22 (yesterday)

that doesn't make any sense

first, it completes his vindication narrative and his "worst-treated president of all time" narrative that he cherishes so much. it would also open the door to revenge through DOJ prosecutions, leading to the chance his enemies would be imprisoned.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 30 January 2026 02:34 (yesterday)

Autopsy results on this guy, whom I suspect will remain unknown to many:

n Texas, several prisoners at an ICE jail on the Fort Bliss military base have testified they heard Cuban immigrant Geraldo Lunas Campos pleading for medication shortly before guards tackled him to the ground. One of the witnesses said in a sworn court declaration he heard a guard tell Lunas Campos, “Shut up or we’re going to make you faint.” He added, “The last thing I heard was Geraldo speak in a voice that sounded like he couldn’t breathe. He said, 'Let go of me. You're asphyxiating me.’” ICE claimed the 55-year-old father of four died while staff were attempting to save him after he attempted suicide, but an autopsy found Campos died from asphyxiation due to neck and torso compression. And the Associated Press reports a witness saw Lunas Campos handcuffed as at least five guards held him down while one put an arm around his neck and squeezed until he was unconscious.

https://www.democracynow.org/2026/1/29/headlines/autopsy_finds_cuban_immigrant_in_ice_custody_died_of_homicide

dow, Friday, 30 January 2026 03:09 (yesterday)

Jesus christ they think everyone is as stupid as them

Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents were conducting an enforcement operation in Minneapolis on Tuesday, targeting an undocumented immigrant from Ecuador when they followed the man to a building that they did not know was the country’s consulate, the agency told CNN.

“Unknown to the ICE officers at the time, the building housed the Consulate of Ecuador, however, the building was not clearly marked as the Ecuadorian Consulate,” according to a statement from ICE. “At no time did the ICE officers enter the consulate.”

Some background: The Ecuadorian government had said an ICE agent attempted to enter its consulate, which prompted it to send a formal protest note to US authorities. The Ecuadorian foreign ministry had said consulate officials prevented the ICE officer from entering the premises, “thus ensuring the protection of the Ecuadorians who were present at the time.”

What ICE says: The man has a conviction for driving while intoxicated in 2022, along with two previous arrests for sexual assault and assault, ICE said in a statement to CNN. When agents approached him and identified themselves as law enforcement, he fled to the consulate building. He is still at large.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 January 2026 03:55 (yesterday)

I used to live nearby in Northeast Minneapolis, that place is definitely clearly marked as the Ecuadorian consulate

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 30 January 2026 04:06 (yesterday)

But what if you were stupid?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 January 2026 04:09 (yesterday)

As expected...

Trump: “Agitator and, perhaps, insurrectionist, Alex Pretti’s stock has gone way down with the just released video of him screaming and spitting in the face of a very calm and under control ICE Officer, and then crazily kicking in a new and very expensive government vehicle, so hard and violent.”

No depths he won't plumb

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 January 2026 06:31 (yesterday)

Also the compromise that was struck on the funding bill is temporarily dead, not because Dems decided to strike a harder line, but because Lindsey Graham threw a last minute hissy

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 January 2026 06:32 (yesterday)

Absolutely insane that we have footage of Pretti kicking a taillight from like two weeks ago and absolutely no idea on the identity of the man who murdered him

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 30 January 2026 08:54 (yesterday)

"worst-treated president of all time"

I mean, several presidents were assassinated, so if he really wants this prize...

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Friday, 30 January 2026 09:29 (yesterday)

this flagrantly illegal shit is absolutely insane

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/30/technology/tech-ice-facial-recognition-palantir.html?unlocked_article_code=1.IVA.5U1j.JfcDyiWav_Uu&smid=nytcore-ios-share

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Friday, 30 January 2026 11:18 (yesterday)

(gift link)

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Friday, 30 January 2026 11:18 (yesterday)

yeah, their goal is to destroy the left so they are tracking people's online behavior, presence at protests, and other data points like that and treating these things like crimes.

treeship., Friday, 30 January 2026 13:18 (yesterday)

DHS has always been a very lawless agency but now they are being directed almost exclusively at the american public itself... with the help of palantir.

treeship., Friday, 30 January 2026 13:18 (yesterday)

this is where the connection with Israel/Palestine becomes more clear.

almost all of these tools were first employed by Israel to spy on and suppress Palestinians.

there’s a lot about this now but this book is illuminating:

https://www.versobooks.com/products/2684-the-palestine-laboratory

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Friday, 30 January 2026 13:21 (yesterday)

we're arresting reports now

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/former-cnn-anchor-don-lemon-arrested-cbs-reports-2026-01-30/

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 30 January 2026 13:45 (yesterday)

The most flagrant of First Amendment violations. I don't see the case sticking but the chilling effect is real

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2026 14:06 (yesterday)

and it also just so happens to be an openly gay black man

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 30 January 2026 14:08 (yesterday)

...once employed by CNN.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2026 14:09 (yesterday)

its def an attempt at a chilling effect but could backfire

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2026 14:10 (yesterday)

yeah this is not going to lead to a good outcome for them

a (waterface), Friday, 30 January 2026 14:10 (yesterday)

What was he arrested for? Being alive?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 January 2026 14:23 (yesterday)

Don Lemon is dumb but locking him up for this is so blatantly illegal (at least one other journalist has also been arrested) it fucking boggles the mind.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 30 January 2026 14:29 (yesterday)

as a poster on bsky put it "this is for the Trump Reality Show" and is probably not going to stick. I'm hoping they're correct

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Friday, 30 January 2026 15:13 (yesterday)

its not going to stick itll get tossed out asap theyre doing it to flex and intimidate

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2026 15:16 (yesterday)

This is terrifying.

Phil Lewis on Bluesky

Georgia Fort, an independent journalist and vice president of the Minnesota NABJ chapter, was also arrested by federal agents this morning

I was sent this video of agents at her door:

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Friday, 30 January 2026 15:23 (yesterday)

https://bsky.app/profile/cwebbonline.com/post/3mdniusvaxs2e
^^^ the journalist, speaking as the FBI wait outside her house

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Friday, 30 January 2026 15:25 (yesterday)

"they can't keep getting away with this"

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 30 January 2026 15:34 (yesterday)

BREAKING: Federal judge has ruled that Luigi Mangione will not face the death penalty. pic.twitter.com/VeeuNDEKxJ

— The Luigi Case (@LuigiCaseFiles) January 30, 2026

calzino, Friday, 30 January 2026 15:53 (yesterday)

I can believe don lemon got arrested for doing journalism

z_tbd, Friday, 30 January 2026 16:09 (yesterday)

Sorry, “can’t”

z_tbd, Friday, 30 January 2026 16:10 (yesterday)

You were right the first time!

Vast Halo, Friday, 30 January 2026 16:12 (yesterday)

Where are the supposed "free speech absolutists" now?

octobeard, Friday, 30 January 2026 16:18 (yesterday)

whether you like don lemon or not, he is being targeted by the trump administration because he criticized trump. so i stand in solidarity with him and any other enemy of the regime.

given what we know about the facial recognition technology that ICE is using, is it possible that pretti was deliberately targeted after his prior interaction with ICE? is this going to be investigated?

treeship., Friday, 30 January 2026 16:19 (yesterday)

we should throw him some kind of party

"Bengla Desh" LP Deliveries To Meet Santa's Deadline (President Keyes), Friday, 30 January 2026 16:20 (yesterday)

I don't think I've ever watched a Don Lemon clip.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2026 16:23 (yesterday)

https://www.dailynews.com/2026/01/29/lapd-wont-enforce-ban-on-federal-law-enforcement-officers-wearing-masks-chief-says/

Los Angeles police do not plan to enforce recently enacted state and local bans that prohibit federal law enforcement officers from wearing masks during enforcement operations, the police chief said Thursday.

Chief Jim McDonnell, when asked at a news conference about mask bans, which Gov. Gavin Newsom signed into law in September and which separately won approval by Los Angeles County supervisors, said he disagreed with the policies, citing the possibility of conflict between police and other agencies if they were to be enforced.

“The reality of one armed agency approaching another armed agency to create conflict over something that would be a misdemeanor at best or an infraction, it doesn’t make any sense. It’s not a good public policy decision and it wasn’t well thought out in my opinion,” McDonnell said.

budo jeru, Friday, 30 January 2026 16:45 (yesterday)

damn maybe giving the police all the money and letting them do whatever they want wasnt the best idea

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2026 16:48 (yesterday)

someone should call the cops on these cops who aren't arresting the cops

obvious old hat (rob), Friday, 30 January 2026 16:48 (yesterday)

how about the reality of letting an armed agency approach and detain and terrorise people just going about their business over a paperwork issue???

Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 January 2026 17:04 (yesterday)

s it possible that pretti was deliberately targeted after his prior interaction with ICE? is this going to be investigated?

it def won't be investigated by this DOJ. But also I kind of don't think there was time for that to happen. He walked up while that woman was thrown to the ground and they just immediately attacked and shot him. Unless they targeted him earlier and were following him.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 30 January 2026 17:08 (yesterday)

The justice department’s Epstein Library now includes an age verification, asking users if they’re over 18.

Blanche earlier told reporters that some of the content being released includes pornography, with redactions.


distributing pr0n across state borders eh?

nashwan, Friday, 30 January 2026 17:08 (yesterday)

Blanche now saying there will be a civil rights investigation for Pretti

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 January 2026 17:42 (yesterday)

About Pretti violating the civil rights of a headlight?

"Bengla Desh" LP Deliveries To Meet Santa's Deadline (President Keyes), Friday, 30 January 2026 17:44 (yesterday)

Confusing people a bit, Scott Horton reported a 2 day old article on BlueSky about their initial determination that there wouldn't be one, and now people are reading that after the Blanche news was posted by others, and thus incorrectly reporting that the investigation was already closed.

Naturally...I expect the investigation to clear the officers. It's Harmeet Dhillom

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 January 2026 17:44 (yesterday)

what if the car was a fucking rental you’ll never pay for don because your a dick scofflaw. an outlaw rly

madame defarge supporters club (Hunt3r), Friday, 30 January 2026 17:51 (yesterday)

this is where the connection with Israel/Palestine becomes more clear.

almost all of these tools were first employed by Israel to spy on and suppress Palestinians.

^^table very much otm here and it’s wild how incapable or unwilling the centrist/ center “left” media are at pointing out the obvious

frontier always comes home/ colonialism turned inward = fascism, etc

OG Bobby Sacamano (will), Friday, 30 January 2026 18:31 (yesterday)

otm

budo jeru, Friday, 30 January 2026 18:44 (yesterday)

that’s what I was trying to get at when table got mad at me :(

admittedly I put no nuance on it but when did this borad do
nuance

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 30 January 2026 18:58 (yesterday)

sorry boring, i am rarely if ever “mad” at anyone on here, fwiw

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Friday, 30 January 2026 19:01 (yesterday)

tho in my defense, yr post stated something about how this is the same as Gaza, but didn’t give context— if something was mentioned about the surveillance state first tested on Palestinians being used on those in the US, i would have heartily agreed

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Friday, 30 January 2026 19:03 (yesterday)

good piece by max, dont want to sound alarmist but our society might not be in the best shape https://maxread.substack.com/p/suicide-rightism-and-the-penguin

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2026 19:35 (yesterday)

Yeah, that was a very sobering read. It's been clear for years the prevailing philosophy on the right is "if I can't have the America I want, you can't have the America you want." *grabs control of US and flies it into ground*

WmC, Friday, 30 January 2026 19:40 (yesterday)

yeah, great work max. brrr!

the important "maybe his head just did that" theory (stevie), Friday, 30 January 2026 19:47 (yesterday)

As long as they don't take anyone else with them, I encourage every MAGA to walk into the nearest forest with their favorite gun and never come back out. We could set up a new WPA program to bury them all! Plus, once they're gone, we could nationalize their car dealerships and HVAC repair companies! Imagine the boost to the economy!

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 30 January 2026 19:59 (yesterday)

t's been clear for years the prevailing philosophy on the right is "if I can't have the America I want, you can't have the America you want." *grabs control of US and flies it into ground*

― WmC, Friday, January 30, 2026 2:40 PM (twenty-three minutes ago)

https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/digital/the-flight-93-election/

obvious old hat (rob), Friday, 30 January 2026 20:06 (yesterday)

linked in the first sentence of maxs piece

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2026 20:09 (yesterday)

yeah sorry I just saw that

obvious old hat (rob), Friday, 30 January 2026 20:12 (yesterday)

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2026 20:13 (yesterday)

batshit essay btw, even in 2016, but especially deranged now

obvious old hat (rob), Friday, 30 January 2026 20:14 (yesterday)

Just catching up and reading a Jan 23 email from some organization called Common Dreams.org that noted that while many House Dems objected to DHS/ICE funding, sadly 70% of Dems in House voted FOR a military Defense bill that increases that budget (thanks a lot Jeffries, Schumer et al) --

149 Democratic members of the US House of Representatives on Thursday night joined with 192 Republicans to pass a sweeping military spending bill—a vote that progressive critics say exposes the fecklessness and hypocrisy of what claims to be an opposition party.

The 341-88 passage of the $828.7 billion fiscal 2026 military spending bill came over the objections of progressives who warned that the bill—now headed to the US Senate for final passage as soon as next week—is a tacit endorsement of the president’s policies, even as he has ordered federal agents to terrorize US cities, deployed US soldiers on domestic soil in the face of lawful protests, threatened to annex Greenland and other nations by force, and conducted overseas military operations—including overt acts of war over the last year against both Iran and Venezuela—without congressional notification, authorization, or oversight....While 149 Democrats voted for the $840 military spending bill, 64 Democrats voted against it.

curmudgeon, Friday, 30 January 2026 20:41 (yesterday)

as a poster on bsky put it "this is for the Trump Reality Show" and is probably not going to stick. I'm hoping they're correct

I think this is right, and I very much do not think it will stick legally, but the fanatical white Evangelical base that completely lost their shit over the "church invasion" will be overjoyed at the idea of Don Lemon in cuffs. So much of what the administrtation does is driven by reaction not to anything real but to what gets play on right-wing media. The Minneapolis ICE surge was presaged by that influencer kid's bullshit videos, which every MAGA saw within 24 hours. The Charlotte, N.C., ICE surge was presaged the outrage over the white woman being killed by a Black man on a Charlotte bus. Some of these viral bits are things that barely register outside the right-wing media bubble, but are huge deals within it. And that base is the only one that Trump's people know or care about, so they do all this performative cruelty to keep them happy. A huge amount of this is about identifying some victim — ideally white Christian female or white Christian child — and then rallying outrage against the alleged perpetrators. It's just lynch mob stuff, basically. And boy is Lemon an attractive target for that.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 30 January 2026 21:03 (yesterday)

idk, i'm not calling you out specifically, but a general trend on pol threads over the last few days that amounts to, "this won't stick," "they won't get away with this in the long run," etc., has really bothered me, as if being arrested isn't that bad if your case gets thrown out or you're released pending charges. anybody who's had the misfortune to interact with the carceral system understands that every part of the process is humiliating and terrifying, the idea that it's not that bad because these cases get thrown out or people get acquitted i think is seriously underestimating how horrifying of a place we're presently in

budo jeru, Friday, 30 January 2026 21:15 (yesterday)

I've been arrested and it's horrible. I'm not downplaying Lemon's misery. He does have excellent legal representation, though.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2026 21:18 (yesterday)

It's not that it's not horrible, the horribleness is the actual point. The point is not to convict or jail Lemon or the other people arrested, it's to humiliate them in the moment, force them to comply in the moment, disrupt their lives, subject them to harassment and intimidation. Same with the bogus prosecutions of Comey, James, etc. It's not that administration wouldn't lock them and throw away the key if it could, but under existing conditions it mostly can't. So it settles for what it can do. Saying something won't stick in a legal sense is not to say it's not bad. It's very bad.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 30 January 2026 21:29 (yesterday)

tho in my defense, yr post stated something about how this is the same as Gaza, but didn’t give context— if something was mentioned about the surveillance state first tested on Palestinians being used on those in the US, i would have heartily agreed

yeah, I was ham handed def.

Gentler Death Squads Please (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 30 January 2026 21:33 (yesterday)

I didn't mean to downplay the horror of the present moment

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Friday, 30 January 2026 21:34 (yesterday)

Speaking of reporters covering protests, today I went down to take photos of an anti-ICE march organized by local high school students and teachers. They encouraged kids across the county to walk out of class and come downtown. It was a pretty big crowd for a frigid Friday morning, somewhere in the 800-1,000 range — probably half kids and half grown-ups supporting them. And I got to see my own kid walk by, which was cool. He told me he and his friends were going to join, I told him it was the only time I won't give him any grief for skipping school.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 30 January 2026 21:42 (yesterday)

it's to humiliate them in the moment, force them to comply in the moment, disrupt their lives, subject them to harassment and intimidation

Similar to what's happening to Mark Kelly over his retirement, and to a lesser extent to Bolton who I don't care about

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 30 January 2026 21:43 (yesterday)

it's not that it's not horrible, the horribleness is the actual point. The point is not to convict or jail Lemon or the other people arrested, it's to humiliate them in the moment, force them to comply in the moment, disrupt their lives, subject them to harassment and intimidation. Same with the bogus prosecutions of Comey, James, etc. It's not that administration wouldn't lock them and throw away the key if it could, but under existing conditions it mostly can't. So it settles for what it can do. Saying something won't stick in a legal sense is not to say it's not bad. It's very bad.

The Trumpian strategy in this regard feels very similar to Scientology imo. Litigate first, countersue, demonise, shame your enemies etc. I know these aren't entirely new strategies but when mixed with total and utter destruction of truth as core to the game there's a weird resonance there for me.

LocalGarda, Friday, 30 January 2026 21:46 (yesterday)

ghost of Roy Cohn

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 30 January 2026 21:47 (yesterday)

James Woods is still with us.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2026 21:53 (yesterday)

Newsom files civil rights complaint against (turkish) Dr. Oz for targeting Armenians. What a fucking world we live in

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/29/us/newsom-oz-fraud-armenians.html

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 30 January 2026 22:03 (yesterday)

Regarding the concept of "downplaying" things, we're in a unique age where an authoritarian takeover of the United States government is being meticulously documented almost frame by frame across every communication channel possible. So everyone that cares about what's happening and is emotionally affected by it is being smacked in the face with the reality of it 24/7 now. With intense prose describing the events.

The descriptions are accurate, but anybody's brain can turn to mush when constantly pummeled by grief and misery. The solution is not to turn away. But to remain engaged to fight rather than shut down and accept things as pre-ordained is to hold onto hope.

Sometimes that leads to well-intentioned wish-casting. Sometimes it leads people to try and find that rose in the concrete, or to read the tea leaves looking for an inflection point that turns the tide. Or to be overconfident in the abilities of the resistance.

Perhaps it's an argument that it's sometimes better to process things privately first before committing ideas to the public square, but...I really don't think anybody here is downplaying anything. By now, we've had a year to take in the fresh new horrors and we've all seen the floor of depravity sink lower and lower by each passing day.

We know it's awful. We all have different ways of responding to it. My brain usually attempts to bury my feelings, then I wind up crying a day later over something dumb. And I know it wasn't the dumb thing but the emotions I denied myself the right to feel the day before. And I don't even consciously do it, it's just years of wiring.

Long-winded way of saying...you're all good people. We're just all varying degrees of fucked up by this now.

Bertolt Blecch (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 January 2026 23:00 (yesterday)

i mean, the guy who leaked trump's tax returns is currently serving a five-year prison sentence. people stick their necks out and put their livelihoods on the line and the world just moves on and forgets about them. don lemon will be fine but it makes me sick to think of others who will get mired in one way or another, and the world just moving on and then somebody smugly posts, "see? the courts held up! we were overreacting"

budo jeru, Friday, 30 January 2026 23:07 (yesterday)

i'm not saying this as a critique of anybody's particular posts, it's just more like something that haunts me, the idea that we're focusing on these abstract questions of "Will our democracy hold up" but then there's all this collateral damage and people fall through the cracks. it's just fucking awful

budo jeru, Friday, 30 January 2026 23:10 (yesterday)

or to read the tea leaves looking for an inflection point that turns the tide

I feel like I'm in this camp, for better or for worse... maybe a bit naively, but I basically believe the MLK quote about the arc of history and all that, and stubbornly hold on to the idea that these bastards WILL pay. But I can see why people become numb when the bar is dropped lower and lower and still they're able to slither under it again and again

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 30 January 2026 23:18 (yesterday)

I don't believe in tides turning -- Neanderthal and I live in Florida -- but I believe in lunar cycles and thr sea changes when they occur, albeit briefly. I'm here to make life easier for people like Kate, Neanderthal, and my nieces.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2026 23:23 (yesterday)

also, Neanderthal, your post was thoughtful and wise and i thank you for it

budo jeru, Friday, 30 January 2026 23:24 (yesterday)

Brandon, you said it plain.

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 30 January 2026 23:25 (yesterday)

Neando autcorrected to to “Brandon”

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 30 January 2026 23:26 (yesterday)

neanderthal is biden

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2026 23:29 (yesterday)

I haven’t cried in years but have several times since this shit in Minnesota started

Heez, Friday, 30 January 2026 23:45 (yesterday)

Although one was out of pride for the ppl fighting back

Heez, Friday, 30 January 2026 23:47 (yesterday)

Every Senate Democrat + Collins and Murkowski just voted for the Bernie Sanders amendment to remove the $75 billion in additional ICE funding that was provided under Trump’s “big beautiful bill,” and re-allocate it. But The measure failed 49-51.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 31 January 2026 00:11 (fifty-nine minutes ago)

well thats pretty interesting

lag∞n, Saturday, 31 January 2026 00:12 (fifty-seven minutes ago)

sick and injured people can just put actual ice on their elbow or toothache

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 31 January 2026 00:15 (fifty-four minutes ago)


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