IT'S TIME
(concept half-stolen from matt #2 bcz i can't think in this heat)
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 13:30 (two months ago)
Talent borrows, genius steals.
Starmer apparently staying for the full term as my MP.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 24 June 2026 13:34 (two months ago)
Did someone mention This Heat?
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 June 2026 13:48 (two months ago)
NEW - MPs say Bridget Phillipson and Liz Kendall confronted Kemi Badenoch about her language at PMQs today where she called Phillipson “spiteful” which Kendall said was outrageous. Badenoch reported to have said “I’m never going to stop talking about how spiteful you are”
The Tories want my vote.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 13:52 (two months ago)
tbf Badenoch, who you'll remember was working class when she worked at McDonald's, called Phillipson a "spiteful class warrior". If only!
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 June 2026 14:03 (two months ago)
spiteful towards..the rich? I wish a bish would
― nashwan, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 14:17 (two months ago)
Phillipson is from a working class background much like Badenoch was when she worked in McDonald's for a couple of weeks.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 June 2026 14:23 (two months ago)
Burnham's dad was a British Telecom engineer doing the hard graft of 2nd-fixing category 5 cable to RJ45 wall sockets. Kind of like a less hard working electrician/plumber type trade. Less likely to get fucked up by asbestos as well!
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 14:32 (two months ago)
Kemi Badenoch goes hard after Rachel Reeves. “She didn’t even bother to come out into Downing Street to watch the PM deliver his resignation speech.“Then she turned up to get a selfie with Andy Burnham.“She let him down.”
“She didn’t even bother to come out into Downing Street to watch the PM deliver his resignation speech.
“Then she turned up to get a selfie with Andy Burnham.
“She let him down.”
lol, some of the hardcore Starmeroids are agreeing with Badenoch
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 15:29 (two months ago)
What the hell is Badenoch's deal? There must a skeleton key to understanding her ideology, who she is contrarian to and when and why.It seems to be just Spiked magazine, or is there more to it than that?
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 15:39 (two months ago)
She actually is a spiteful class warrior.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 June 2026 15:40 (two months ago)
She's in the terminally online right, so her ideology is shaped by so many conspiracy theories and weirdness it's a fool's game to try to understand her.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 24 June 2026 15:45 (two months ago)
Patrician Nigerian family, brought up to look down her nose at plebs + Christian to boot.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 June 2026 15:52 (two months ago)
Badenoch is extremely horrible but on the anthropomorphic quotient she scores higher as a human being than BP, who is literally an automaton.
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 16:03 (two months ago)
Badenoch seems to be in politics for the chance to attempt to humiliate others. Given the current state of UK Pol, she has had a few opportunities to try this. However because she's about a millionth as smart as she thinks she is and lacking in any charisma, nothing particularly lands apart from how incredibly nasty she is. The fact that this exposes how opposition leader is her dream role and the highest level she'll ever reach may or may not be lost on her.
And if she was leader of an opposition that had a hope of winning an election, they'd have to fire her so somebody who cared about that or was mature enough to pause the juvenile hectoring and pretend to could take her place.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 17:21 (two months ago)
So many Universities are on the brink. Might be worth having a plan.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2djnz3y47o
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 18:09 (two months ago)
xpost She's like Rik Mayall, not as in 'New Statesman' but 'Young Ones"
"Urr look at bogey face over there...."
― Mark G, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 19:22 (two months ago)
(another politics thread with 'smart quotes' in the title that'll look bad for years)
― Bog Dork (koogs), Wednesday, 24 June 2026 19:51 (two months ago)
Well, Kasabian have outlasted Starmer..
― Mark G, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 21:45 (two months ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HLoowvCWoAAnyGe?format=jpg&name=medium
"It was a fatally prosperous forensic year."
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2026 05:27 (two months ago)
Harris might have eaten shit but starmzy managed to fit quite a lot of extraordinary prosecutions into his short and dismal reign tbf
― Karmic posing as I always do 🧘 (wins), Thursday, 25 June 2026 05:37 (two months ago)
Kieth will always lament that he could never match Kamala's extraordinarily absolutely fucking evil feat of using her office to block evidence that would have prevented an innocent black man from being consigned to death row. But sometimes the achievements of a prosecutor is more about who doesn't get prosecuted rather than who does!
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2026 05:57 (two months ago)
Lol how did Kamala ever lose
― Russia did Epstein, prove me wrong (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 25 June 2026 10:31 (two months ago)
FT reporting that Unite and GMB are pulling out all the stops to prevent Miliband from becoming Chancellor because they don't like his commitment to Net Zero.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 25 June 2026 11:22 (two months ago)
... on the hottest day since records began
― Bog Dork (koogs), Thursday, 25 June 2026 11:29 (two months ago)
the express has had several front pages damning net zero in recent weeks. they really have a bee in their bonnet about it.
― Bog Dork (koogs), Thursday, 25 June 2026 11:30 (two months ago)
It's a standard right wing hate totem
(Hence Unite etc etc)
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 June 2026 12:02 (two months ago)
Jobs Jobs Jobs
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 June 2026 12:24 (two months ago)
After last night's incumbent losses to upstarts in NYC, my sources tell me Dem party leadership is reaching out to an individual they refer to only as "The Fixer", and that making that call is a "break in case of emergency" situation, but he's available and ready to go to work pic.twitter.com/AFsBLUFawJ— Will 🦥 Menaker (@willmenaker) June 24, 2026
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 June 2026 12:27 (two months ago)
UK unions being pro fossil fuel, anti-green energy is not in the interests of the working classes, its purely to serve the billionaires and is so on brand for them.
Sharon Graham organised a Unite protest for a more equitable share of the weapons of death industry blood money for workers, after Italian unions had organised blockades for Gaza. It's a shameful bootlicking country is this and Graham is despicable and the other unions are all right-wing garbage as well. Which goes to show how the unionisation of BAE is a trojan horse for the UK elites and how apolitical labourism without anti-imperialism and class politics is always going to serve the interests of the scumbag elites. And this all comes the back to the complete destruction of the Labour Party also cannot come soon enough.
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2026 12:33 (two months ago)
The Economist here is providing more hallucinations on 'Red Ed'
https://archive.ph/32o0q
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 June 2026 12:42 (two months ago)
still grumbling about David Miliband losing 16 years later, and then the deranged rambling from some parallel universe where somehow Ed had pulled a soft coup and is the de facto unelected leader of the UK, lol a joke publication
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2026 13:08 (two months ago)
Laughing so hard at this AI-slop I nearly forgot to ask where he was between October 2023 and April 2024. https://t.co/GM0d2R4Uur pic.twitter.com/CGbphjflRY— bread and poses (@breadandposes) June 25, 2026
this long twitter post by AI Carns quite obviously is 90% LLM generated slop, it's quite hilarious that he would put something so incredibly stupid out. Just lots of jaunty vacuous slogans in series, and all kind of centred around the idea that there is a consensus for the UK to become an insane permanent warfare state.
Here's the lesson I learned from Ukraine and in government, and it never changes. We invent things. Other countries build them. Other countries decide. We're brilliant at the first mile and absent for the next ninety nine.
^^^this is one of the bits he wrote himself I think, lol
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2026 16:07 (two months ago)
As talked about here, Burnham will need to fight his MPs
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/25/bond-markets-andy-burnham-afraid-own-mp-labour
This is misreading Burnham's willingness to do a radicalism. Beside all that though, Lab MPs will not get rid of him if he went with Ed Mil and then there was some kind of radical plan for the markets and The Bank of England.
Going with Streeting as chancelllor is, needless to say, suicidal.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 June 2026 16:27 (two months ago)
fully expecting eye-rolls for sharing monbiot content, but this analysis of the different political strands within the broader green movement is pretty good i think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ic1KVmryY
― Ash Ra Pimples (NickB), Thursday, 25 June 2026 17:28 (two months ago)
Shabana Mahmood is set to sack Mike Tapp as Immigration Minister for "unauthorised remarks" It comes after he wrote an article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her immigration reformsA source says he's expected to be sacked for breaching the Ministerial Code "He has taken possible ideas that the Home Secretary and her team were working on, and briefed them as his own to try to win a job in the new administration
It comes after he wrote an article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her immigration reforms
A source says he's expected to be sacked for breaching the Ministerial Code
"He has taken possible ideas that the Home Secretary and her team were working on, and briefed them as his own to try to win a job in the new administration
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2026 18:16 (two months ago)
tapp’s aff weather
― golp: a roundel purpure (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 June 2026 18:32 (two months ago)
about 90% of Tapp's schtick used to be "here comes the deportation hardman, let's go deport some subhuman scum" and now he's getting sacked for pretending to be more nuanced on immigration!
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2026 18:40 (two months ago)
Keir Starmer is currently refusing to sack Mike Tapp despite Shabana Mahmood's request It’s understood No 10 see him as a Minister commenting on a policy that falls within his remit
It’s understood No 10 see him as a Minister commenting on a policy that falls within his remit
this is getting funnier
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2026 19:02 (two months ago)
None of this fuckery about immigration and settlement was even in the manifesto. I hope she gets pissy and quits.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 25 June 2026 19:43 (two months ago)
was going to say I hope she falls in a hole, but let's extend that to the entire house of commons
― Here is the mentioned donkey, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 25 June 2026 19:52 (two months ago)
When I moved to the UK, it was on a freelancer visa which cost nothing to get or to renew. After FOUR years, ILR. No NHS fees, and no income minimums. Just letters from regular clients saying they were happy to carry on working with you. After the first renewal, the next three were basically rubber-stamped
John Major’s Britain, people…
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 25 June 2026 20:21 (two months ago)
Farnworth (Halton) Council By-Election Result:🌹 LAB: 51.0% (+14.6)➡️ RFM: 36.4% (-0.0)🌳 CON: 7.7% (-5.7)🌍 GRN: 4.7% (-9.0)🦅 LBT: 0.2% (New)Labour HOLD.Changes w/ 2026.— Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) June 25, 2026
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 June 2026 07:50 (two months ago)
My rudimentary maths tells me that Labour only won that by like 10 votes or fewer the previous time
― miserable pessi reign (imago), Friday, 26 June 2026 07:52 (two months ago)
If Burnham does the minimum around cost of living, gets privitization of utilities going, is seen to mean business around cost of living and so on, we may still get a hung parliament xp
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 June 2026 07:53 (two months ago)
If Labour didn't have such a stonking majority I'd have put money on them calling an election before the end of the year. As it is, I think they'll sit it out.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Friday, 26 June 2026 08:14 (two months ago)
Greens have just overturned a Labour majority in a council by-election here (Goldsmid), so much for any Burnham bounce
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/26232410.greens-take-council-seat-goldsmid-by-election-hove/
― Ash Ra Pimples (NickB), Friday, 26 June 2026 15:52 (two months ago)
Uh, explain?
One of the adjudicated ballots which was called for Labour read “The least harming to this country”.
― Mark G, Friday, 26 June 2026 15:55 (two months ago)
Keir Starmer will not sack Mike Tapp as Immigration Minister despite Shabana Mahmood’s request No 10: “It is not for any Secretary of State to determine whether the Ministerial Code has been followed, it is a matter for the Prime Minister alone.
No 10: “It is not for any Secretary of State to determine whether the Ministerial Code has been followed, it is a matter for the Prime Minister alone.
lol, the line between lame duck and already dead
― calzino, Friday, 26 June 2026 18:20 (two months ago)
Greens are basically a version of the Lab left, but they are meant to be their own thing.
Burnham must meet 3 key tests: Will redistribution of power mean ditching the broken electoral system?Will redistributed resources mean a real wealth tax and protecting the poorest?Will a focus on local areas come with an end to the gutting of local authorities' budgets?— Zack Polanski (@ZackPolanski) June 29, 2026
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 June 2026 13:27 (two months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jun/30/unite-union-sharon-graham-leadership-challenge-reform-uk
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 June 2026 09:34 (two months ago)
How could this have happened?
The situation in Gaza is desperate. Today the UK is announcing £23m for @UNRWA to deliver vital support including food, water, education and medical support for Palestinian refugees.There must be more aid, all crossings opened, and humanitarian agencies able to operate safely.— Yvette Cooper (@YvetteCooperMP) June 30, 2026
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 July 2026 08:57 (two months ago)
What you gonna do if the Israeli government doesn't comply, Yvette?
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 July 2026 09:34 (two months ago)
England play at 1am and Starmer calls on businesses to let workers start late to let everyone watch— Y (@tinscognito__) June 2, 2026
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 July 2026 20:46 (two months ago)
A rare lapse in class and perspective from the forensic idol
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 July 2026 21:10 (two months ago)
🚨 NEW: Peter Mandelson has reportedly been in contact with Russian spies for over 35 yearsHe was considered a "privileged contact" and "one of the most significant Russian achievements in manipulating UK politics" in the last 30 years[@Telegraph]— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) July 1, 2026
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 July 2026 10:10 (two months ago)
Good things are still possible
Via Christopher Steele, the Trump Pee Tape guy.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 July 2026 10:32 (two months ago)
His relationship with Deripaska is pretty well established but the rest looks incredibly weak. No idea what the supposedly payoff in ‘manipulating British politics’ is supposed to be.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 2 July 2026 14:44 (two months ago)
Sure, just reading it as a ppl washing their hands off him piece
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 July 2026 16:21 (two months ago)
Mcsweeney interviewed for the first time ever, have only engaged with it (will only engage with it) via a flyingrodent summary thread too lengthy to reproduce here but rest assured it seems no lessons have been learned by anyone
― Karmic posing as I always do 🧘 (wins), Thursday, 2 July 2026 21:39 (two months ago)
Here is someone else who isn't learning.
Like everyone, I want this vile criminal out of the country. Victims must come first.I will ask the Home and Foreign Secretaries to review all possible options - and they should consider nothing is off the table.https://t.co/u42MdjrX65— Andy Burnham (@andyburnham) July 1, 2026
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 July 2026 09:09 (two months ago)
Got to abolish prison I guess.
― nashwan, Friday, 3 July 2026 10:12 (two months ago)
Abolish Labour at least
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 July 2026 13:39 (two months ago)
a portion of the melt left protesting that the state pension isn't a welfare benefit - which it is - presumable either because they're stupid and believe that NI is a savings account or because they're fans of means testing and don't want to face the extended consequences of that
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 July 2026 13:29 (two months ago)
Our next pm did an AMA on r/ukpol last week. All of the top-voted questions were about abolishing the triple lock. Points ranged from fairer distribution of wealth from old to young, to specious copmplaints that some pensioners are "millionaires" etc. The sub is fairly right wing in general, but it's def astroturfed to hell, and pretty reliably represents Overton window movement directions pushed in the media using bad faith, superficially populist talking points ("how can it be fair that when young people are struggling the state is rewarding millionaire pensioners" "oh also we need to give money to our US arms manufacturer friends"). As you say NV, it's a first and hugely symbolic step towards attacking other benefits, for people at whatever age, at which point arguments about redistributing wealth from old to young will have disappeared in a puff of smoke, as if they never existed.
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 5 July 2026 13:54 (two months ago)
the "millionaire pensioners" argument is so transparently rubbish. universal benefits ensure take-up amongst those most in need, and the tax system recovers way more than the value of the pension from those least in need. it's a Labour Right argument that aligns with the policies of other welfare state hawks. anybody who thinks they're on the left and misses this point is an idiot or a liar.
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 July 2026 15:11 (two months ago)
When is Starmer actually fucking off? Is it the weekend Eng have a potential WC final?
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 July 2026 08:32 (two months ago)
Depends if anyone runs against Burnham. If not, about two weeks.
― ShariVari, Monday, 6 July 2026 08:44 (two months ago)
#itwozburnhamwotwonit
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 6 July 2026 08:45 (two months ago)
To be fair, the last time England won the World Cup there was a Labour Prime Minister in office who was a slippery professional Northerner determined to milk the win for all the votes he could get.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Monday, 6 July 2026 09:12 (two months ago)
"i will make a statement on my future in public life at 2pm..." - NF
― Bog Dork (koogs), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 11:20 (two months ago)
take the money and run? here's hoping.
Always hope for the Mishima Yukio option
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 11:31 (two months ago)
nige isn't that cool
― miserable pessi reign (imago), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 11:32 (two months ago)
If he resigns, I presume the Oarliamentary standards investigation gets scuppered. Am I wrong?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 11:44 (two months ago)
Parliamentary ffs
with a cricket bat
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 7 July 2026 11:48 (two months ago)
House of Lords commissioner cannot investigate a complaint about a former member but I’m not sure that rule exists for the lower house, at least not that I’ve seen. The receipt and use of the money and accusations are likely something that could be pursued under other avenues. Electoral Commission scope applies to people who aren’t current MPs anyway. They can refer cases to the police etc.
― hat stays on (gyac), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 12:48 (two months ago)
Needs an electronic tag like Marine Le Pen.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 12:50 (two months ago)
what the fuck is this clown doing
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 13:27 (two months ago)
he's stepping down as an mp and then he's going to run in the by election
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 13:28 (two months ago)
there was also a whole big spiel about being the most attacked politician in britain
just about 10 years to the day sice jo cox was actually stabbed to death
classy guy
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 13:34 (two months ago)
Is he planning to lose then get his supporters to believe it was an establishment stitch-up?
― Alba, Tuesday, 7 July 2026 13:41 (two months ago)
next mayor of manchester?
― Bog Dork (koogs), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 13:42 (two months ago)
Any chance of the great folk of Clacton seeing sense this time?
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 7 July 2026 13:42 (two months ago)
no he wants to win to show that he has popular support whatever the findings of the parliamentary standards investigation xps
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 13:44 (two months ago)
Will be interesting to see if Elon puts his thumb on the scale here.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 7 July 2026 13:45 (two months ago)
If he'll genuinely be upset at losing bring it on.
― Alba, Tuesday, 7 July 2026 13:46 (two months ago)
Should the election laws be changed? resigning to re-stand is just a time wasting exercise.
― djmartian, Tuesday, 7 July 2026 13:48 (two months ago)
Tactical voting could definitely work but it would mean either the Tories or Labour falling on their swords and that's not going to happen.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 13:49 (two months ago)
all seems incredibly wasteful and self-serving, I think he might actually have a hard time boiling this whole thing down into something sellable to the general public
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 13:52 (two months ago)
meanwhile he's guaranteed that a whole lot of attention will be put on the stuff he wants everyone to ignore
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 13:53 (two months ago)
This seems very odd.
I’m not a crook, so don’t pay attention to the money. Anyway, pay attention to me while I do something very unnecessary and gives everyone an opportunity to say how much of a crook I am.
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 7 July 2026 14:02 (two months ago)
Restore could eat in to a 9k majority. Hard to see him coming out of it stronger, either way. A bunch of morons who elected you the first time around still think you’re ok? Guess you must be PM material after all.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 7 July 2026 14:03 (two months ago)
Looking pretty frazzled here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnj1GjPWbdc
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 14:13 (two months ago)
The cunt's been treated with kid gloves by the media his entire political career ... then completely falls apart when he's under a bit of long overdue scrutiny. Hilarious.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 14:18 (two months ago)
what precedents are there for this sort of shenanigans?
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 14:23 (two months ago)
am struggling to think of other examples, maybe there aren't that many because basically it's a pretty stupid thing to do?
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 14:31 (two months ago)
Churchill probably did it.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 14:35 (two months ago)
Apparently David Davis did it and won. Zac Goldsmith did it and lost.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 14:37 (two months ago)
wondering if Neil Hamilton did it but not googling
anyway, no seppuku, no interest
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 14:38 (two months ago)
Vaguely remember the Davis one, some kind of principled stand on civil liberties. Goldsmith, no idea.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 14:38 (two months ago)
In 2008, David Davis resigned as shadow Home Secretary in protest at Labour trying to increase days terror suspects could be held without charge from 28 to 42. He won the subsequent by election.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 14:40 (two months ago)
Amazing luck for Burnham.
Maybe Eng will also win the World Cup now
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 July 2026 14:59 (two months ago)
Just a farce, he's had more retirements and comebacks than Cher.
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 7 July 2026 15:10 (two months ago)
latest, bollox to the fake by-election
The Tories aren’t going to stand a candidate in Farage’s by-election. Lib Dems aren’t going to stand a candidate.Restore UK aren’t going to stand a candidate.I’m told that it’s unlikely Labour will stand a candidate, just needs to be signed off by NEC today. So…— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) July 7, 2026
― djmartian, Tuesday, 7 July 2026 17:39 (two months ago)
Would be icing on the cake if he lost to Count Binface.
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 7 July 2026 17:44 (two months ago)
haha
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 17:45 (two months ago)
Great chance for Count Binface to finally get into Parliament tbf.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 17:46 (two months ago)
xp!
Same thing happened in the by-election David Davis triggered in 2008, he ended up standing against 25 candidates, including David Icke and singer, Ronnie Carroll. The Green Party came second with 7.4% of the vote.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Haltemprice_and_Howden_by-election
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 17:59 (two months ago)
Still crazy to me that Texans have more reservations about James Talarico than Mainers have about Platner. I don't think he's the perfect candidate by any means, but he's very much a normie Democrat who is probably not going to have a bunch of awful skeletons in the closet. Why is it so important to win Susan Collins' seat at all costs, but barely seen as necessary to take Cornyn's seat?
― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 18:19 (two months ago)
Because Talarico still has almost zero chance of winning Texas
― fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 18:25 (two months ago)
or Clacton
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 18:31 (two months ago)
Ruh roh https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/07/revealed-farages-5m-gift-reported-to-uk-agency-over-money-laundering-concerns
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 18:50 (two months ago)
4 years to the day since Boris resigned
― Bog Dork (koogs), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 20:10 (two months ago)
Well, there would be political symmetry if Count Binface stood against and won. Or even if he loses by the same percentage as the brexit vote.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 7 July 2026 21:22 (two months ago)
How much of a following can the country get Binface? I feel like this is quite the opportunity
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 7 July 2026 21:25 (two months ago)
21 years since 7/7.
― hat stays on (gyac), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 21:41 (two months ago)
Cursed date
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 July 2026 22:52 (two months ago)
Tanabata :(
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2026 22:54 (two months ago)
Good luck, UK.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jul/08/two-in-five-britons-think-muslims-cannot-integrate-in-uk-poll-finds
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 July 2026 07:07 (two months ago)
only a 40% racist country, could be worse
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 July 2026 07:08 (two months ago)
It's actually worse than that.
55% of people believe Britain’s national identity is disappearing because of diversity.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 July 2026 07:10 (two months ago)
yeah but those other 15% are just gentle patriots who aren't like the bigots they just love a bit of patriotism
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 July 2026 07:12 (two months ago)
luckily all the libs can agree that Farage is a bad man and that's the only problem
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 July 2026 07:13 (two months ago)
They should do the next survey on what people think the word integration means.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 07:33 (two months ago)
Or what national identity / culture means.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 07:58 (two months ago)
Integration (AKA just another day in London) is riding the bus to Whitechapel with your hijabi neighbour to buy cheap veg and both cracking up at the take-away along the route calling itself FIVE AKHIS.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 8 July 2026 08:02 (two months ago)
You do occasionally get ‘Anglo-futurists’ trying to explain how immigrants have eroded ‘national culture’ and it rarely progresses past bananas arguments about vape shops and Turkish barbers ‘colonising the indigenous high street’, etc.
You could probably make a much stronger case for Total Yank Victory and, globally, culture being subsumed into a kind of private-equity-Mr-Beast-Labubu-CR7-Netflix consumer identity but can’t blame that one on the ‘Boriswave’ or whatever. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone from Reform actually talk about what they want to do to promote British culture other than force kids to learn about the Armada between the ages of 5 and 17.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 08:10 (two months ago)
The Armada being a purely English affair, of course.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 July 2026 08:19 (two months ago)
i guess i meant more like why is there a survey about 'integration', like what are people being asked to comment on here, rather than like questioning whether people itt know someone who is from a different ethnic or religious background.
for some people answering that survey i guess 'integration' would mean like conversion to being secular? or it would have to go further than that? idk tho. in general these surveys always seem provocative and i suspect they're made in an unscientific way. like are people itt 'integrated' into uk society? it seems a strange concept and one that should prob be rejected off the bat.
the culture or disappearing identity stuff is quite weird as it seems total fascist territory at first glance but then you think about all the softish left views about high streets, "gentrification" etc and there's a lot of preservation language there too.
don't really know how what people want from their public areas.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 08:30 (two months ago)
but then you think about all the softish left views about high streets, "gentrification" etc and there's a lot of preservation language there too.
Haven't actually ever heard any odes to the high street but I imagine the soft leftish stance you mention there to be similar to what it is elsewhere I've lived - a valuing of "traditional commerce" in the face of multinational chain supermarkets. This opposition does indeed sometimes take on nostalgic tones but I don't think it is purely reactionary in the way reform nostalgia is; after all, often the stores and stalls being defended are owned by immigrant communities.
Or, to put it in a platitude, some developments are good and others aren't.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 8 July 2026 08:40 (two months ago)
i guess i feel specific actions about shops and who owns them are different to the generalised language of people talking about gentrification. in fact, the problem with the latter is it is quite widespread but untethered from politics or action, imo.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 08:41 (two months ago)
I dunno, it feels less untethered from politics or action than most issues ppl discuss tbh, perhaps because it is so rooted in everyday life. Discussions about gentrification tend to focus on actual purported victims and culprits (fairly or unfairly), specific markets that get closed down, specific shops that move in.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 8 July 2026 08:57 (two months ago)
they really don't - half the time they're just about hipsters or food some other irrelevant shite. inequality would be a far more specific word and frame for how we discuss big cities.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 08:59 (two months ago)
So, bits and bobs im reading, suggest that Farage cannot resign and re-stand.
The traditional method woyld be to get the Chancellor to appoint them to the Chiltern 1000s making him ineligible to be an mp as its a theoretical 'for gain' position. But that means he can't re-stand.
I don't know how that squares with what happened to Dave Davis or whoever it was..
Of course, he could get his application refused, but that's not happened for 150 years...
Etc. Apologies for typos or mitsteaks
― Mark G, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 09:01 (two months ago)
Not at all my experience! There's like half a dozen markets in areas of London I don't even go to that I know of entirely because of all the discourse around their possible closures.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 8 July 2026 09:06 (two months ago)
The gentrification bit seems strongly weighted towards London and Manchester, i think. The wider 'death of the high street' is much more likely to be around boarded-up shops, betting parlours or fly-by-night businesses catering to stuff you can't easily buy online. Like the 'death of the pub', it's probably more about further atomisation than anything else. Drinking at home, ordering from Amazon and driving to an out-of-town supermarket has none of the sense of being part of a living community that going down the high street on a Friday night / Saturday morning does - but, equally, the reaction to 'fifteen minute cities' shows a pretty strong rejection, on the right, of actually wanting to change that.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 09:20 (two months ago)
Nothing worse than work peeps or others wanting to discuss l'affaire Farage and I just wanna shrug and go "he's a cunt, that's all I got to say"
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 July 2026 11:41 (two months ago)
yeah it's annoying because they want to connect on a personal level and of course farage is a cunt, but if they think he's in any way the only problem we're dealing with then at best they are ill-informed and I'm not going to be the guy at work ranting about politics
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 12:08 (two months ago)
"At the launch of the report – titled Britain Under Strain: The Broken Social Contract, Democratic Distrust and the Mainstreaming of Extremism"
Love how this policy researcher dreck gets ample reporting.
Ofc it definitely feels true -- by discourse and the way people vote, as well as anecdotal things I hear --that much of British society is racist, but it would include the establishment and governments that have been more than happy to lend a hand at incinerating Muslims in the middle east for the last two decades, to give one example.
If you were positively in favour of that you might also think Muslims here would not want to "integrate" either. A thing that might not at all follow, but it would be a perfect jumping off point to then say lets deport foreigners that don't speak English, for example.
The fracturing of Reform and elevation of Restore would seem to be where we are going.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 13:29 (two months ago)
tbh, I think there’s a lot of people who have generally bad views if you press them on certain things but don’t necessarily build their entire political and social identities around them in a way that being ‘a Restore guy’ kind of encourages.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 14:02 (two months ago)
yeah i think that's why these surveys, and the more daily grind ones like yougov, are mainly intended to drive things rightward. like set up to then report the worst possible corners of what might be people's views and connect them to politics and news and then to an extent policy-making, when otherwise it'd just be stuff people might vaguely think.
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 14:04 (two months ago)
this is also why "improve people's material conditions" usually drives down the extent to which the average voter is preoccupied with legitimate concerns. the surveys and the news cycle are helping to centre this stuff which has been at the margins of politics for a long time prior
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 July 2026 14:36 (two months ago)
the "Muslims aren't integrating" crowd have clearly not met many Muslims.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 14:41 (two months ago)
So, bits and bobs im reading, suggest that Farage cannot resign and re-stand.The traditional method woyld be to get the Chancellor to appoint them to the Chiltern 1000s making him ineligible to be an mp as its a theoretical 'for gain' position. But that means he can't re-stand. I don't know how that squares with what happened to Dave Davis or whoever it was..Of course, he could get his application refused, but that's not happened for 150 years...Etc. Apologies for typos or mitsteaks
That’s not actually true, I don’t think. Zac Goldsmith resigned and forced a by election over Heathrow I think a good few years back and then lost his seat to a Lib Dem in the subsequent by election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Richmond_Park_by-election
― hat stays on (gyac), Wednesday, 8 July 2026 14:42 (two months ago)
Nv otm, also like as much as it's bleak, people's thoughts are not illegal, think whatever you want tbh, but trying to draw out everyone's instinctive take on shit they might not ever have even really considered is agenda-setting and grim. It's an erosion of privacy, as is the notion we all need some collective national opinion about "integration"
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 14:44 (two months ago)
but, equally, the reaction to 'fifteen minute cities' shows a pretty strong rejection, on the right, of actually wanting to change that.
I don't know that those people have actually sat down and considered whether their lives would be better or worse if most of the things they needed were within a 15-minute walk of where they lived. The hatred just seems to be a knee-jerk paranoid conspiracy theorist response.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 15:51 (two months ago)
The 15 minute cities dreck seems like inane Americanisation that actually has very little to do with British life.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 17:40 (two months ago)
NBS otm just another term that if you asked a hundred people what it meant you'd get a hundred different answers, even if the group you chose were all people who consider themselves opposed to "fifteen minutes cities"
― LocalGarda, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 17:45 (two months ago)
From what I can tell 15 minute cities is explicitly trying to avoid UK cities becoming like American cities, god knows towns here in the UK are already car-dominated enough, I welcome anything (within reason) that stops that getting worse.
― Tim, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 18:20 (two months ago)
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 July 2026 bookmarkflaglink
Agreed in principle and certainly this was a driver for Corbynism. Like to think it can be driven down, to an extent. Although racism wasn't extinguished in times where the UK was growing and you had near full employment. The far right was causing damage in the late 70s and so on.
But also I think it will take a lot of political will and energy to turn back from austerity. Things like climate change will make that also harder.
All of this means taking the constituency that votes Reform seriously. It would be good to stand a candidate against Farage instead of a fucking bin.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 July 2026 19:23 (two months ago)
yes you need a two-pronged response. tackling inequality reduces the far right's constituency among casual racists - the voters for who white supremacy isn't the primary driver - but politicians also need to stand strongly against racist narratives and say so publicly, not pandering to legitimate concernism. the latter is probably politically more *possible* in the UK because it doesn't threaten capital directly, but it doesn't feel much more likely than dismantling the austerity state. the dainty "let's ignore Farage and his low class chicanery" stance at this by-election is the centrist uni-party at its worst.
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 July 2026 21:03 (two months ago)
Hello, small North Yorkshire market town dweller here. Most of the things I need are within a 15 minute walk, and my life is definitely better for it.
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 9 July 2026 08:34 (two months ago)
Although racism wasn't extinguished in times where the UK was growing and you had near full employment. The far right was causing damage in the late 70s and so on.
The UK was in no way in great shape in the late 70s!
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2026 08:48 (two months ago)
No but in the period between post war and the 70s there was more social housing, for example, the unemployment levels were not as high as in the early 80s, as Thatcher went through her 'reforms'
But I wouldn't say that Black and Asian ethnic minorities were freer from racism then. It's a constant that the people that came here for work (because there was more demand for exploitative manual labour) were subjected to racism.
So, from all that the notion that racism could be dialled down by restoring the health of public services, a mass housebuilding program and so on...feels faulty to me.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 09:21 (two months ago)
Surprised people think parties should run candidates against Farage. It's a stupid stunt to get him attention and the best possible outcome is him having his jolly prankster vibe undercut by the only other candidate being a bloke dressed up as a bin. Also, it isn't going to make the stories of financial impropriety go away, whatever the damage they do to him turns out to be.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 9 July 2026 09:34 (two months ago)
There will be nothing else to talk about but financial impropriety in an election campaign against a bin.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2026 09:41 (two months ago)
Hard to know what will come up but running people against him would just allow him what he wants, to reiterate his key messages, energise his base, and say look nobody cares about this financial stuff while changing the news cycle.
The more this is ignored or a farcical sideshow the better.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 9 July 2026 09:48 (two months ago)
So he'll avoid all hustings, because the general public aren't bound by whatever rules and Farage will only end up repeating "I have done nothing wrong" like some Eighties Tory Politician who cannot definitively say "I have done nothing illegal"....
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 July 2026 10:20 (two months ago)
So, for all the fun&games of Count Binface, there's a chance he might not run so Farage gets elected unopposed, no cost of a by-election, and the rozzers are straight round...
However:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLucdKkYRwkcBM68Z60bLOxmH_V8TzFslpKwr0dQF0LQ&s=10
.. comes in as a stalking horse and ensures this happens.
Hmm....
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 July 2026 10:30 (two months ago)
https://www.homerton.cam.ac.uk/homersphere/news/jovan-owusu-nepaul-battle-clacton
This is what happened in Clacton last time. A black Lab candidate was ordered to stop campaigning against Farage.
The danger of ignoring constituencies deemed safe or unwinnable is that it risks sending a message to marginalised communities – whether they are minoritised or poor white areas – that their votes do not matter. This leads to a “sense of antagonism towards politicians”, he added.
I know it's a different situation than an election but regardless not running a candidate and a good campaign against a party that is still odds on to form the next government shows contempt.
Elections are about accountability and the Greens and any progressive electoral movement runs a candidate, asks the questions, talks to voters that will have those different opinions. And if we want an electorate that will vote right wing parties out we better approach them at election time, for a start.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 10:38 (two months ago)
I get the cenrist uniparty argument but Restore, who you would have assumed would have much to gain from running against Farage, were the first party to say they wouldn't be running in the by-election. FWIW.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2026 10:39 (two months ago)
Not running a candidate is just fun & games.
The hard work would be running on your message, showing you want to defeat the right at the doorstep, asking the voters whether this MP has done anything for them in the last couple of years.
This is why this democracy is a joke, and why Reform will get close to forming a government.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 10:43 (two months ago)
It's a completely different situation to a normal election. There is no good outcome from running candidates in this scenario.
This election is not about accountability, it's someone drawing attention to themselves. They would be idiots to run against him based on some abstract principle gleaned from a situation that was not this one.
The fun and games is this by-election but it doesn't surprise me there's some theories as strong as a wet balloon suggesting the reverse.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 9 July 2026 10:45 (two months ago)
Yeah I think main parties not running is the least worst response in a bad system. You can't allow the incumbent to dictate terms so much (part of me thinks Reeves should've blocked it even - you should not be allowed to resign just to re-run). Even after GE24 it's not exactly a swing seat.
― nashwan, Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:00 (two months ago)
At least we will pour scrutiny on the bin fella.
The joke isn't the bin. The joke is pretending the man inside it is some random eccentric. Jonathan David Harvey is an Oxford-educated writer with three decades at the heart of the BBC comedy establishment, writing for programmes such as The Thick of It, Have I Got News For You and Yes Minister. He's won awards, been celebrated by the media, and is hardly an unknown outsider.So let's stop pretending Count Binface is just a bloke who wandered into politics wearing a wheelie bin.The costume is the gimmick. The career behind it is anything but.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:02 (two months ago)
I’m of the belief that running against Farage would actually make it harder to talk about your own beliefs here. He thought he was setting up some tremendous trap and tbf to him, if they put their foot out, they would have got caught.
Instead, by ignoring him, he looks like a fucking ignoramous being out talked by a bin and they can say they aren’t pissing around (lol) and busy actually trying to get stuff done (lol) and actually talking about the issues (lol) instead of not taking dodgy money (lol)
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:08 (two months ago)
Remember when we all used to say Starmer won't still be leader come the next GE? Well, I seriously think Farage won't be leader come the next GE.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:20 (two months ago)
would be interesting to know what specifically Nige did to upset the Murdochs
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:21 (two months ago)
The other reason for not running in this by-election is risk of contesting the seat again in another few months when NF gets recalled for violating parliamentary standards.
He keeps doubling down on how very dare you judge me to broadcasters and the Commons, which if he is found guilty will see a harsher punishment. Boris Johnson was down for a 90-day ban for calling the committee a ‘kangaroo court’ and resigned to avoid that censure.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:28 (two months ago)
xp rumour mill says NF might not actually be alive at next GE.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:29 (two months ago)
Yes, I've heard his health is poor.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:31 (two months ago)
Reason for running a candidate isn't to do with avoiding or falling into traps, or what the commission does or doesn't do. You do it because you might like to talk to voters and engage them and show you are there, as one would think it's part of accountability in an electoral democratic process. Farage laying a trap is just a media narrative.
But as the people on top of the parties are very much from a professional class who have shown contempt for voters, and are very much singing to the tune of agendas set by the media you get a guy in a bin. Easier not to knock on doors.
It's August, time to go on holiday, its silly season, right?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:40 (two months ago)
Even if Farage dies the narratives and the racism stay. Meloni in Italy is running a very stable government, I hear.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:41 (two months ago)
it is to do with not falling into traps. you can make up whatever you wish in order to spout the same points you wish to make regardless, but that is why all the parties are not indulging this stunt. and let's be honest if all the parties were running candidates you'd have some other way of making the same point which could be the exact opposite to what you're saying today.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:42 (two months ago)
You keep spouting the same dumb shit about traps too.
We just disagree on this, no need to say I am making this up or whatever.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:44 (two months ago)
I am interested in a progressive movement -- like the Greens, which is the closest we have -- running a candidate. Lab and Tories practically agree with a lot of the Reform narrative.
And I'll keep saying that, because I am interested in how to get places from not voting for far right talking points. Which is still where we are going.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:47 (two months ago)
i didn't say you're making it up and i never mentioned traps. i pointed out that whatever the situation you would find a way to reiterate the same point. the events are not relevant to the point being made. you don't have to agree with that, why would you? i'm sure others can decide themselves.
your view, fwiw, is farage's view also as quoted today.
xpost
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:47 (two months ago)
"it is to do with not falling into traps."
?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:49 (two months ago)
technicalities won't save you here
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:51 (two months ago)
just admit all of your takes are based on 'what would my enemy think' and forming the opposite pov. in this case farage's view.
Actually I don't care what Farage thinks, I just see this in line with political parties and their contempt for voters.
The very contempt that led to the Brexit vote and is leading to a Reform government.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:52 (two months ago)
Binface’s creator chose Peter Cook for Great Lives:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002vx3y
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:55 (two months ago)
the contempt for voters is calling a by-election to try to get a win about the media zoning in on your dodgy financial dealings
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:56 (two months ago)
^^^^
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:57 (two months ago)
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 9 July 2026 bookmarkflaglink
How is it a technicality to say you never mentioned traps, when you are agreeing with not running a candidate because it's a trap?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 11:59 (two months ago)
You do it because you might like to talk to voters and engage them and show you are there, as one would think it's part of accountability in an electoral democratic process. Farage laying a trap is just a media narrative.
You can do all that outside of an election campaign. Farage deciding when you do it is not the way imo.
― nashwan, Thursday, 9 July 2026 12:02 (two months ago)
Actually a by election where you could put in good resources is a great time do it?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 12:03 (two months ago)
And this goes for the Greens when not making a proper run against Burnham too. He is currently ready to carry on with the racist Home Office policies under Starmer.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 12:05 (two months ago)
i responded to a post of yours with the word 'trap' in it, has nothing to do with the broader argument just more risible shit. maybe your post was a trap omg i fell in the trap, oh no, you've got me.
you say labour shouldn't run a candidate, only the greens, because they are the same as reform along with tories, but earlier you cited 'a black lab candidate' being victimised by reform as an example of why parties should be running candidates? is that out the window now you've thought about it more? is that candidate pro-reform?
and given you repeatedly say reform will win the next election, and have said this at every possible juncture for an increasingly long period of time, like a few years, then what matter are events like this? if the greens ran a candidate, should that candidate be certain that reform are winning the next general election, as part of their electoral strategy?
or is that just a comfortaing way of thinking itt/when arguing online?
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 9 July 2026 12:07 (two months ago)
Well yeah so maybe focus resources on that pragmatically, not this sideshow that progressives don't have enough control of. xp
― nashwan, Thursday, 9 July 2026 12:09 (two months ago)
einstürzende louboutin (suzy) at 12:55 9 Jul 26Binface’s creator chose Peter Cook for Great Lives
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 9 July 2026 12:11 (two months ago)
LG - It matters because unlike you I don't think what is good today or this week or month. I am interested in how places like Clacton go from voting Tory and Reform long term, as the situation is dire.
I focus especially on the Greens as I refine my correct initial point because they are the progressive choice. Not running is a big disaster especially for them, as it was not properly giving it a good go against Burnham.
Reform are currently very much on to either get a majority or close to. They have repeatedly polled well and made good on this in the last local elections. That's not me saying it. But long term, if we are interesting in having a functioning democracy this needs to be called out as stupid.
And long term the fight is against far right talking points and fascism. Would be good to not hold voters in contempt.
but earlier you cited 'a black lab candidate' being victimised by reform as an example of why parties should be running candidates?
Not sure what you are saying, but iirc that candidate seemed to be doing well on the doorstep and engaging the constituency but Starmer's lab forced a wind down of that campaign at the last GE. Not sure of the ins and outs of it, but from the quote I pulled out he doesn't think like a lot of them, which as we've seen is to put a Reform-lite layer in proceedings, listen to concerns and dish out racist Home Office deportations and prisons for migrants.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 12:27 (two months ago)
Talking of comedy candidates, Laurence Fox might be standing?
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2026 12:52 (two months ago)
As a Green member in Makerfield, we had no chance of victory or even a substantial vote share. It was the right decision to save resources and energy for the Mayoral election campaign.
― AlanSmithee, Thursday, 9 July 2026 13:04 (two months ago)
No, no it was "a great disaster" according to our own free riffing Donald Trump.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 9 July 2026 15:13 (two months ago)
Wanna be a mass party actually act like one challenge
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 15:19 (two months ago)
Seems their strategy has been good so far and is working for the. I remember a time not so long ago when their membership drive etc was being ridiculed here, even compared to a party that barely exists still, but seemingly they've had some success since and gained credibility there too. Perhaps they can continue to improve their electoral strategy even without help from us on this messageboard and our deep knowledge of this area.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 9 July 2026 15:38 (two months ago)
for them*
They can do what they like.
I'll keep riffing away as I like.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2026 15:45 (two months ago)
Today's riff.
Ofc Lab are not going to stop selling arms and gathering intelligence for Israel. Anything else is words. Forget this 'reset'.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/09/burnhams-apology-over-gaza-marks-reset-moment-as-labour-seeks-to-win-back-progressive-voters
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 July 2026 12:44 (two months ago)
Police treating Ann Widdecombe's death as murder and hunting for white male suspect after body found with serious injuries https://t.co/mQGmMLO5bn— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) July 10, 2026
Very odd.
― ShariVari, Friday, 10 July 2026 15:30 (two months ago)
It is, I'd be bragging like fuck if I'd done it
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 July 2026 16:20 (two months ago)
lmfao
― out of the cradle endlessly party rocking (the table is the table), Friday, 10 July 2026 16:45 (two months ago)
Apparently not politically motivated, according to the cops? Boo, I was hoping it'd be the start of guillotine season.
(Actually, I was hoping it was one of their own and would indicate an escalation of infighting that would lead to the collapse of all the fash parties, but obv that's a rather stupid daydream.)
― emil.y, Friday, 10 July 2026 17:42 (two months ago)
they've arrested her nephew who came asking her for money last night, but it will turn out to be her jealous best friend who discovered the body. oh hold on, no, that's The Sittaford Mystery
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 10 July 2026 17:45 (two months ago)
be terrible if she was murdered by a white heterosexual guy who blugeoned her to death with nothing but the sheer irony of it
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Friday, 10 July 2026 18:21 (two months ago)
sorry that's quite a bleak thing to write in the context of violence against women, she was fucking bleak person though
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Friday, 10 July 2026 18:24 (two months ago)
nah you're ok
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 10 July 2026 18:31 (two months ago)
Farage statement: ok maybe second most attacked
― Karmic posing as I always do 🧘 (wins), Friday, 10 July 2026 19:32 (two months ago)
First rule of Morse - motivation is generally petty
First rule of 2026 - Nazis will weaponize anything
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 July 2026 21:17 (two months ago)
They just created a million Ann Widdecombes
― ShariVari, Friday, 10 July 2026 21:25 (two months ago)
Guillotine season plz
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 July 2026 21:49 (two months ago)
led by donkeys new stuff is edgier than i expected https://t.co/4ZCgLCWYyw— jake (@jakecumbrian) July 10, 2026
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 July 2026 04:49 (two months ago)
The guy arrested for this has now been released.
Looking forward to the true crime bollocks around this one.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 July 2026 06:27 (two months ago)
maybe he lost money betting on her in Strictly
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 July 2026 07:43 (two months ago)
keep seeing the BBC news feature headline describing her as "fun feisty and formidable"
which part of wanting to find a cure for being gay was fun exactly
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 11 July 2026 10:42 (two months ago)
Reform UK’s leader Nigel Farage said Widdecombe’s alleged murder showed that life for politicians in Britain had become even more dangerous. He said:Our nation is a much, much poorer place without her. Reform UK is certainly a much worse place without her. I was expecting to see her in Clacton over the course of the next few days. Sadly, that is not going to happen.Rest in peace, Ann. A remarkable, principled woman, and a truly dreadful way to die, and a terrible reflection on modern Britain.And I do fear that for anybody in public life, or especially the political space, things have become even more dangerous.
Our nation is a much, much poorer place without her. Reform UK is certainly a much worse place without her. I was expecting to see her in Clacton over the course of the next few days. Sadly, that is not going to happen.
Rest in peace, Ann. A remarkable, principled woman, and a truly dreadful way to die, and a terrible reflection on modern Britain.
And I do fear that for anybody in public life, or especially the political space, things have become even more dangerous.
Maybe it's you next, yes.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 July 2026 10:53 (two months ago)
Load of bollocks, it's either some smackhead burglary gone wrong or someone she knew with a grudge.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 July 2026 10:55 (two months ago)
I was expecting to see her in Clacton over the course of the next few days. Sadly, that is not going to happen.
Wait, he was gonna be in Clacton?
But also lol making it about him as usual.
― nashwan, Saturday, 11 July 2026 11:03 (two months ago)
No, he was looking forward to getting the Clacton Enquirer and seeing a picture of her doing hustings...
― Mark G, Saturday, 11 July 2026 12:00 (two months ago)
JE SUIS WIDDECOMBE
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 11 July 2026 19:54 (two months ago)
Counterterrorism police have taken over the Widdecombe investigation.
― ShariVari, Monday, 13 July 2026 12:49 (two months ago)
Spicy!
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 July 2026 12:54 (two months ago)
A second plane has hit the widdecombe
― stick your cheffing job (ledge), Monday, 13 July 2026 13:00 (two months ago)
I wish Dawn Foster was here to troll Reform pols about maybe being Freemasons 🙃
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 13 July 2026 13:05 (two months ago)
I know I say this about everything but ‘vulnerable, socially-isolated white guy commits weird, semi-random crime’ makes me wonder which Discords he was in.
― ShariVari, Monday, 13 July 2026 13:08 (two months ago)
in a sense lol but also ffs nigel might have his stab in the back narrative after all
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 13 July 2026 13:09 (two months ago)
She doesn't feel like the most glaring of targets for a politically motivated attack in 2026
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 July 2026 14:26 (two months ago)
just imagine if this person is trans or a member of the green party, it will be bad. otoh if they are a nazi we will have another campaign to be more polite on the internet and use real names online.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 13 July 2026 14:32 (two months ago)
Immigration and asylum bill sounds like another dark episode..
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 July 2026 09:36 (one month ago)
It’s horrible. People already pay huge amounts of money every year for visa renewal and NHS fees, and now they’ll double it.
Before 2003 charges for visas were minimal.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 14 July 2026 10:37 (one month ago)
its fine though because its with a northern accent
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 14 July 2026 11:26 (one month ago)
my wife has ILR, does this mean I can no longer claim UC or any other benefits? because it's the whole household that is assessed. don't think they've thought this through at all.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 14 July 2026 11:29 (one month ago)
You can still apply/receive benefits like any settled taxpayer.
I am still kicking myself for not doing postgrad at UK rates when I got ILR 30 years ago.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 14 July 2026 11:34 (one month ago)
sorry what is this news about benefits etc for non-citizens?
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 14 July 2026 11:53 (one month ago)
Because right-wing parties have trailed taking benefits away from ILRs, and/or deporting ILRs who have claimed, a few people are so freaked out they think something similar has already happened.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 14 July 2026 11:58 (one month ago)
right okay
you don't have to be a taxpayer to receive benefits btw!
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 14 July 2026 12:15 (one month ago)
They’re gonna give him one of those perfect days you give your dog before having him put down https://t.co/yRVnl1hs7b— Agent 4ft 7” (@nathersjones) July 13, 2026
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 July 2026 13:05 (one month ago)
Feels kind of cruel to dangle a bank holiday and take it away if England get to the final and lose. Scotland had one just for playing Haiti!
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 14 July 2026 14:34 (one month ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jul/14/ann-widdecombe-killing-police-investigating-possible-leftwing-motivation
"Investigators are considering whether leftwing, anarchist and single-issue terrorism (LASIT) played a role in the suspect’s alleged motivation, but are keeping an open mind as new material emerges."
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 July 2026 22:05 (one month ago)
"LASIT"?????
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 14 July 2026 22:06 (one month ago)
there is literally like one site on the internet that uses this term. here's a chart from that site, very deep thinking going on here
https://www.protectuk.police.uk/sites/default/files/inline-images/LASIT.png
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 14 July 2026 22:09 (one month ago)
surely it should be LWASIT, I'm not going to stand for this nonsense
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Tuesday, 14 July 2026 22:18 (one month ago)
‘Could be left wing, could be a crank Catholic, could be an incel’ doesn’t strike me as a particularly useful category. Seems wildly irresponsible of the Guardian to frame that as ‘left wing’ when the police don’t appear to have done anything of the sort.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 14 July 2026 22:30 (one month ago)
Yeah BBC going with the quote "targeted attack"
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 July 2026 22:35 (one month ago)
Dead on arrival.
EXC: Andy Burnham's team has “pretty much locked in” senior Cabinet picks - Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood is now expected to become Chancellor of the Exchequer- Opponents of Ed Miliband campaigned to stop his appointment as Chancellor. He is expected to be offered Foreign Secretary.- A Labour insider sympathetic to Miliband said his prospects of becoming Chancellor had suffered not so much because of scepticism about his net zero agenda, but because many in the party had not forgiven him for Labour's 2015 general election defeat.- Also in line for Cabinet positions are Louise Haigh who will be in a “beefed up" role as Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, a senior Cabinet Office minister who drives cross-government policy and collaboration.- Former Health Secretary Wes Streeting, Labour’s deputy leader Lucy Powell and former Housing Secretary Angela Rayner are all in line for Cabinet positions.- Cabinet expected to be announced late Monday afternoon
- Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood is now expected to become Chancellor of the Exchequer
- Opponents of Ed Miliband campaigned to stop his appointment as Chancellor. He is expected to be offered Foreign Secretary.
- A Labour insider sympathetic to Miliband said his prospects of becoming Chancellor had suffered not so much because of scepticism about his net zero agenda, but because many in the party had not forgiven him for Labour's 2015 general election defeat.
- Also in line for Cabinet positions are Louise Haigh who will be in a “beefed up" role as Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, a senior Cabinet Office minister who drives cross-government policy and collaboration.
- Former Health Secretary Wes Streeting, Labour’s deputy leader Lucy Powell and former Housing Secretary Angela Rayner are all in line for Cabinet positions.
- Cabinet expected to be announced late Monday afternoon
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 July 2026 17:18 (one month ago)
Starmer called Labour under the previous leader "institutionally antisemitic" at pmqs today.
Meanwhile Andy Burnham is interviewed by Gary Lineker who was smeared in the same way.
All a bit fucking schizoid really
xpost that stuff is more important, obv
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 15 July 2026 17:40 (one month ago)
Aberdeen University employee Heather Herbert has now been arrested over online posts celebrating Ann Widdecombe's death
🚨 BREAKING: Aberdeen University employee Heather Herbert has now been arrested over online posts celebrating Ann Widdecombe's death pic.twitter.com/rTK4FzHtYG— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) July 16, 2026
Meanwhile, remember this:
https://www.facebook.com/speechfirstorg/videos/ann-widdecombe-on-free-speech/857344429674785/
"Nobody has the right to live their lives being protected from offense or from insults or from hurt feelings. It is an occupational hazard of living in society." - Ann Widdecombe, Former Member of the European Parliament
― djmartian, Thursday, 16 July 2026 12:46 (one month ago)
Yeah, but Farage was also saying it's wrong that people should be arrested for expressing personal opinions online. oh wait.... (but not for too long).
― Mark G, Thursday, 16 July 2026 13:44 (one month ago)
Rare good news.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg7gg2zdexo
― ShariVari, Thursday, 16 July 2026 14:28 (one month ago)
about time. i see they're still discussing room for fudging but publishing a guaranteed minimum salary plus expected hours should be compulsory
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 July 2026 14:38 (one month ago)
also ban the "what are you earning now?/what do you expect to earn?" questions from applications
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 July 2026 14:40 (one month ago)
Many civil service posts will show a pay range. So reasonably someone applying thinks that if they keep their nose clean and do a good job they’ll reach that at some point. In reality they’re likely to be stuck at the salary they joined at for years. The higher salaries in the range only for those who do a transfer from another government department so that their salary doesn’t drop from their old job to new job
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 16 July 2026 14:49 (one month ago)
"what is your expected salary?" is such a fucking annoying question, ridiculous that it's allowed at all.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 16 July 2026 14:58 (one month ago)
Lord Sadiq Khan.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 July 2026 15:50 (one month ago)
... and Dame June Sarpong!
Bob Stanley’s ex-wife apparently secretly runs the country now. We’re never escaping the long 90s.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 16 July 2026 15:55 (one month ago)
― ShariVari, Thursday, 16 July 2026 15:55 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 July 2026 16:57 (one month ago)
if there's a finer compiler of melt ex-wives i don't want to know about it
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 July 2026 16:59 (one month ago)
(xp) LOL that was meant to go in the St Etienne thread.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 July 2026 17:16 (one month ago)
nothing can stop us now, barring an election
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Thursday, 16 July 2026 17:21 (one month ago)
People, you're in a bad way
― Mark G, Thursday, 16 July 2026 21:58 (one month ago)
unfortunate that the spaceballs thread got bumped just when shabana mahmood's helmet-like head is all over the news
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Friday, 17 July 2026 07:16 (one month ago)
anyway woke up thinking that my hate for these fucks will still be strong, after the boys of starmer have gone
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Friday, 17 July 2026 07:26 (one month ago)
Mostly because they haven't gone, just swapped seats
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 July 2026 08:56 (one month ago)
Wigan Keir
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 17 July 2026 12:00 (one month ago)
One thing that’s already very notable is that government by leak and counter leak is going to continue.
― ShariVari, Friday, 17 July 2026 15:21 (one month ago)
Survation poll had LAB and Reform on 25% each.
Only one bit of data but from that you'd think ppl want this to succeed..
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 July 2026 15:39 (one month ago)
Burnham isn't Starmer, that's worth a few percentage points without him even doing anything.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Friday, 17 July 2026 15:43 (one month ago)
the Fell For It Again Society has a sizeable membership it's true
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 July 2026 16:13 (one month ago)
it's not unlike the England football cycle, we should be due a few opinion pieces saying Burnham is the greatest politician of the 21st Century in a couple of weeks
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 July 2026 16:14 (one month ago)
Well, it’s a pretty low bar to beat.
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 17 July 2026 16:30 (one month ago)
sadly we are only weeks away from the first new statesman/observer articles from former Melody Maker journos telling us how much of a sexual frisson AB gives them.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 17 July 2026 19:54 (one month ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/18/nigel-farage-clash-times-editor-reform
First let me say lol Farage is disgusting and I hope he tanks it all.
But second, it is going to be really fucking annoying that as Farage chokes so close to potentially taking over the country that we are gonna drown in northern right wing coded centrist bullshit like burnham did something amazing while still fucking the country, just because Farage has started stepping on rakes.
― a hoy hoy, Saturday, 18 July 2026 10:22 (one month ago)
Green Party regretting not seriously fighting the Makerfield by-election yet?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c935yx2z9d4o
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 18 July 2026 10:45 (one month ago)
Polanski's 'tests' for Burnham a few weeks ago didn't even include climate stuff!
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 July 2026 10:46 (one month ago)
xxp yes the murdoch papers have decided to turn on farage, sadly this is the most important factor here and the one which will be completely ignored
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 18 July 2026 10:47 (one month ago)
Lol why oh why did New Order agree to having their song played game's gone
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 July 2026 11:05 (one month ago)
Breathtaking from Burnham, straight in with full cunt credentials established
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 July 2026 11:48 (one month ago)
I think "Blue Labour" is going to be Burnham's thing
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 18 July 2026 11:50 (one month ago)
kier starmer going to see the king
"it's a deeply personal thing and you can tell that because he's brought his kids along, which he never normally does" (tv presenter, for the same of something to say)
i suggest that's because they've just broken up for summer and it saves on childcare
― koogs, Monday, 20 July 2026 10:43 (one month ago)
The number one rule of a political adviser is keep quiet in public. To keep off social media and to be the voice behind the scenes. But just for today I’m breaking that rule. I first met Keir Starmer more than twelve years ago when he was standing to be the Labour Party candidate in Holborn and St Pancras. Since then I have had the privilege of being by his side. From Brexit to the pandemic, leadership campaign to election, opposition to government. Changing Labour from a party of protest to a party of change. Having the chance to do what politics is really about: improving people’s lives. Keir is a man of extraordinary strength, determination and decency. I’m so proud of what we have achieved together. Others will judge his time in politics as they see fit. But for me I see a Britain today that is a better country because of his leadership. Right, back to staying quiet.
I first met Keir Starmer more than twelve years ago when he was standing to be the Labour Party candidate in Holborn and St Pancras.
Since then I have had the privilege of being by his side. From Brexit to the pandemic, leadership campaign to election, opposition to government. Changing Labour from a party of protest to a party of change. Having the chance to do what politics is really about: improving people’s lives.
Keir is a man of extraordinary strength, determination and decency. I’m so proud of what we have achieved together. Others will judge his time in politics as they see fit. But for me I see a Britain today that is a better country because of his leadership.
Right, back to staying quiet.
Posting like this is certainly a choice
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 July 2026 12:01 (one month ago)
Well, he's sacked Lammy and Reeves, so brownie points for that.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Monday, 20 July 2026 15:32 (one month ago)
And Steve Reed, who does very unsubtle mafia-style threats in his letter
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 20 July 2026 15:36 (one month ago)
Now to see who is in *screaming begins*
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 July 2026 15:41 (one month ago)
... and Liz Kendall.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Monday, 20 July 2026 15:46 (one month ago)
Liz Kendall out too! With maximum cliche effusivity.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 20 July 2026 15:46 (one month ago)
Now don't hold this against me but if Andy Burnham keeps sacking shites like Lammy, Reed and Kyle I might say something nice about him.— Rangzen (@revoltinghippie) July 20, 2026
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 20 July 2026 16:30 (one month ago)
Hilary Benn get tae fuck.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Monday, 20 July 2026 16:51 (one month ago)
A Chancellor called Healey? Not sure about that one.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Monday, 20 July 2026 17:26 (one month ago)
Jesus, every bit the same level of cunt as the ghouls he's sacked
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 July 2026 17:52 (one month ago)
Healey specifically resigned because of, in his opinion, insufficient defence spending. The only reason Burnham would stick him in the treasury is to facilitate increased defence spending. How this squares with tackling cost of living, increasing tax thresholds, lowering energy bills, massive council house building programmes, is anyone's guess. So either Burnham's bullshitting everyone, or he hasn't got a clue and it's going to fall apart imminently.
As I said, "war socialism"/economic stimulation via rearmament is a specific Blue Labour objective. But it's a disastrous policy and won't fulfil any of Burnham's other objectives. Assuming they're not out and out lies.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 20 July 2026 18:10 (one month ago)
As I understand it defence spending is a terribly inefficient way of growing the economy, as opposed to pretty much any other government investment. But it's the usual "impossible to tell whether they're evil, stupid or both" stuff from Labour
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 July 2026 18:15 (one month ago)
Healey apparently big on housing which is another of Burnham’s priorities. Not in love with the appointment but at least it’s not Streeting.
― AlanSmithee, Monday, 20 July 2026 18:38 (one month ago)
…who hasn’t yet made an appearance!
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 20 July 2026 18:52 (one month ago)
Healey is being put in because he’s a nobody who will do what he’s told, imo.
― ShariVari, Monday, 20 July 2026 19:27 (one month ago)
Maybe, Wes Streeting will be appointed Business Secretary (with expanded responsibilities for Technology and Innovation, and Science?) as the Department of Science, Technology and Innovation is going.
Department for Business & Trade - will maybe be renamed.
― djmartian, Monday, 20 July 2026 19:28 (one month ago)
― ShariVari, Monday, 20 July 2026 20:27 (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
so why didn't he do this under Starmer and supposedly resigned on principle? Secret Burnhamite?
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 20 July 2026 19:44 (one month ago)
Jonathan Reynolds in at the new expanded Business Department.
The Department title:
🚨 UPDATE: Andy Burnham has scrapped the Department for Science, Technology and Innovation It has been merged into Business and Trade, which will be renamed as the Department for Business, Innovation, Science and Trade— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) July 20, 2026
― djmartian, Monday, 20 July 2026 21:08 (one month ago)
Dbist is yet to come
― nashwan, Monday, 20 July 2026 21:10 (one month ago)
We are running out for big jobs for Wes
Defence SecJustice SecTransport Sec
Nandy stays at DCMS
🚨 NEW: Andy Burnham has reappointed Lisa Nandy as Culture, Media and Sport Secretary pic.twitter.com/pjQLBfNLt9— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) July 20, 2026
― djmartian, Monday, 20 July 2026 21:18 (one month ago)
ah, Wes Streeting to be appointed as Deputy Prime Minister?
― djmartian, Monday, 20 July 2026 21:23 (one month ago)
Update: No 10 says "Digital" has been added to Lisa Nandy's department
It's now named the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport
Update: No 10 says "Digital" has been added to Lisa Nandy's departmentIt's now named the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) July 20, 2026
however in the expanded Business depart includes Innovation (surely Innovation includes Technology?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_for_Culture%2C_Media_and_Sport
It was renamed to Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport on 3 July 2017, staying DCMS under the premiership of Theresa May to reflect the department's increased activity in the digital sector.[5] The department was renamed back to the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) in February 2023, with responsibility for digital moving to the new Department for Science, Innovation and Technology.
― djmartian, Monday, 20 July 2026 21:31 (one month ago)
Must admit to wondering if he'd made Chancellor so he could see how little money there is to spare to play soldiers.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Monday, 20 July 2026 21:32 (one month ago)
Healey did his bit to hasten Starmer's downfall and is being rewarded.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 20 July 2026 21:38 (one month ago)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/andy-burnham-makerfield-labour-defence-welfare-starmer-b2995000.html
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 20 July 2026 21:42 (one month ago)
yeah i'm really not gonna work my way thru the Legion of Doom ranking them from worst to least worst
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 July 2026 21:47 (one month ago)
Anyone heard any more?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jul/20/man-charged-with-murder-ann-widdecombe-joshua-kerry
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 July 2026 21:49 (one month ago)
strange appointment, Wes Streeting as Defence Sec
Wes Streeting has been chosen as the new Defence Secretary in the cabinet.— LBC News (@LBCNews) July 20, 2026
― djmartian, Monday, 20 July 2026 22:00 (one month ago)
Got to stick the cunt somewhere I suppose.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Monday, 20 July 2026 22:01 (one month ago)
only that he appears as a signatory on this open letter to Your Party from last year
https://openletter.earth/sign-the-open-letter-baf85a5c?limit=0
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Monday, 20 July 2026 22:05 (one month ago)
...
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 July 2026 22:09 (one month ago)
Doesn't seem much doubt where he lies in the political spectrum.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Monday, 20 July 2026 22:24 (one month ago)
Jeremy crombyns off to the tower tomorrow then
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 20 July 2026 22:24 (one month ago)
Such a pity that 90% of the UK's freshwater is in one nation.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jul/21/not-enough-water-for-uks-datacentre-plans-trade-body-says
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 July 2026 10:21 (one month ago)
The UK will not have enough water for future datacentres, the water industry has said in stark criticism of the government’s AI growth plans.
this is simply untrue - the uk has more than enough water for datacentres if the thirsty oafs who live here restrict themselves to the sensible, healthy six thimbles of water a day recommended by the department of health and start shitting in holes they dig in the ground instead of using wasteful toilets
― egg + sound/vibration + hug = harmonic egg (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 July 2026 11:07 (one month ago)
look, ensuring the uk population is adequately hydrated is the old politics
― egg + sound/vibration + hug = harmonic egg (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 July 2026 11:08 (one month ago)
Ap brief moment of optimism: This is genuinely the kind of thing the government - any party government - are extremely vulnerable over, and I think the public fucking hate datacentres. We've already seen the results of the Green surge in pushing gov policy the tiniest bit left, even before Burnham. I think Greens under Polanski know how to exploit this, and I think Burnham does feel that pressure on his neck hairs. Ok optimism over.
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 11:42 (one month ago)
> I think the public fucking hate datacentres
the daily express lampoons milliband on a weekly basis because he's against datacentres that will earn the country billions of pounds.
"Red Ed's 'suicidal energy policy' blamed for £31B data centre blow to UK" etc
― koogs, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 13:12 (one month ago)
The messaging is a lot more 'left-wing' in a Corbyn sorta way around cost of living, no more rough sleeping etc. Definitely the first government in a while that are looking at household bills and struggles as a day one priority.
Obviously they need to put cold hard cash back in people's pockets if they are going to have any hope of saving themselves...has to go far beyond pretty words and speeches.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 15:34 (one month ago)
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 28% (+8)RFM: 28% (=)CON: 18% (+1)LDM: 10% (-2)GRN: 10% (-3)SNP: 3% (=)
Via @DeltapollUK, 17-20 Jul.Changes w/ 12-15 Jun.
The early polling is like thank fuck Starmer has been given the boot lol, but also you have your sometime back don't fuck it up
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 16:58 (one month ago)
Where have they gained the 8 points from if the Conservatives have also gained 1 and the losses from the other parties only add up to 5?
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 July 2026 17:22 (one month ago)
I noticed that too - do they include undecided voters and people who weren't going to vote?
― emil.y, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 17:29 (one month ago)
13% undecided. I guess 3% have decided...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 17:32 (one month ago)
Or whatever
There's no way there's only 3% undecided in any poll about anything.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 July 2026 17:34 (one month ago)
Well, if people "don't know" they're less likely to fill in an online voting poll.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 18:25 (one month ago)
The answer when someone asked
'Others' down 2%, rest will be rounding.— Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) July 21, 2026
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 19:00 (one month ago)
That's some serious rounding.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 July 2026 19:07 (one month ago)
let's assume the numbers are broadly accurate - the new improved dead count bounce will probably last a month or two tops
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 July 2026 19:26 (one month ago)
dead cat bounce
dead count is Rentoul, obv
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 July 2026 19:27 (one month ago)
Never noticed the similarity between Rentoul and Renfield before.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 July 2026 19:29 (one month ago)
"Others" down two percent, from what? To What?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 22 July 2026 08:35 (one month ago)
bins
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 22 July 2026 08:37 (one month ago)
I see the £2 bus fare cap back - seemed like a ridiculous self-own to get rid of it at the time especially considering how little it relatively costs.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 22 July 2026 08:40 (one month ago)
Here’s where I remind Londoners that weekends from now to September, bus travel is £1.75 per day for as many rides and routes as you need.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 22 July 2026 09:59 (one month ago)
Londoners as in those who live there?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 22 July 2026 11:00 (one month ago)
Yes, obviously but also people visiting. I plan to get a few decent outer-zone dog walks out of it.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 22 July 2026 11:06 (one month ago)
Oh, fine.
I'm at the age where I could get free trav on the London, but I'd have to live there to get it...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 22 July 2026 11:34 (one month ago)
https://www.london.gov.uk/mayor-announces-new-weekend-hopper-fare
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 22 July 2026 11:54 (one month ago)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-07-21/burnham-approves-use-of-uk-bases-for-some-us-strikes-on-iran
EXCLUSIVE: Andy Burnham has approved the use of British military bases by the US for what the UK calls defensive strikes against Iran, in a continuation of Keir Starmer’s policy even as Trump ramps up his war.
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 22 July 2026 14:36 (one month ago)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2dg54vprno
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 July 2026 12:53 (one month ago)
In 2023 when he was the mayor of Greater Manchester, Burnham called for freezes to private sector rents until the cost of living crisis was over.But Rayner told the BBC on Friday: "I don't think that rent freezes, rent controls, is a way forward at the moment."Three years ago, Andy called for that because there was a significant crisis in the rental market."We implemented between then the Renters' Rights Act which is giving renters more power and control."
Ok glad the crisis is over Angie thx
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 24 July 2026 13:25 (one month ago)
Perfect scenario for mayors to be given extra powers, eh Andy?
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Friday, 24 July 2026 13:53 (one month ago)
My two, living in Brighton, have just about settled into new accommodation after having been evicted in a "No fault, but just-in-time" eviction.
I know of a few others that have had to do that. But, at least that's now gone as a threat.
― Mark G, Friday, 24 July 2026 14:20 (one month ago)
Maybe have a look at how the LHA - the cap that determines how much people can claim for housing costs on Universal Credit - is hundreds of pounds below the average market rent in many places now. Nah, I'm sure that's not a problem.
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 July 2026 15:40 (one month ago)
well polly toynbee says that's actually fine and not a problemhttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jul/24/british-people-andy-burnham-goodwill-gestures
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 24 July 2026 15:50 (one month ago)
Toynbee gonna Toynbee ffs
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 July 2026 16:25 (one month ago)
Burnham choosing to display a gold disc of The Queen is Dead on the walls of No 10 huh
― bruich, a stór (gyac), Saturday, 25 July 2026 11:46 (one month ago)
Christ this thread title is absolute shit though, we should take the Burnham era as an excuse to jettison this one early and not endure it for the next half decade
― bruich, a stór (gyac), Saturday, 25 July 2026 11:47 (one month ago)
Burnham and Morrissey like-minded on immigration
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 July 2026 12:20 (one month ago)
Winning Reform voters it's happening
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 July 2026 12:45 (one month ago)
I mean this was always the case, it's just whether the crumbs are just enough to see off Reform. It was never going to be socialism.
Burnham is doing exactly what Starmer did to become leader of the Labour Party. Pretend to support socialist policies but do the opposite. If he was genuine about ending 40 years of neoliberal policies he would not surround himself with Blairites. He is throwing us some crumbs.— Pamela Fitzpatrick (@pamelafitz4HW) July 26, 2026
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 July 2026 16:05 (one month ago)
Meanwhile in Islington.
https://i.postimg.cc/FzXxkYXV/Save-Clip-App-752619944-17948228313247924-2887378459383436595-n-jpg.webp
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 July 2026 16:17 (one month ago)
OK now it's a cult
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 July 2026 17:13 (one month ago)
Swinging by.
― Mark G, Sunday, 26 July 2026 17:39 (one month ago)
I like that it only commits to him swinging by. Don't get any ideas folks, he won't be at this event which bears his name for long.
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 26 July 2026 17:50 (one month ago)
Doesn’t he hold one of these every year?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Sunday, 26 July 2026 18:53 (one month ago)
Two whole hours, huh?
― mahb, Sunday, 26 July 2026 19:33 (one month ago)
Socialism begins with socialising in person. Nice.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 July 2026 20:09 (one month ago)
Here it is. My manifesto for the 2026 Clacton By-Election. It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Join me, clean up Clacton and let's make 13th August Bin Day! #VoteBinface #VoteyMcVoteface #YesWeTinCan pic.twitter.com/rNMB5xszH8— Count Binface (@CountBinface) July 27, 2026
i've seen worse
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 27 July 2026 11:25 (one month ago)
LAB 28% (+4) REF 24% (-2) CON 22% (nc) LIB DEM 12% (+1) GREEN 8% (-3) SNP 2% (nc)
Lab has taken the vote away from both Reform and Greens, but the handouts and racist messaging on migration will be an act they'll need to keep going for a long time.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 July 2026 17:33 (one month ago)
https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/lord-glasman-wrote-song-exiled-crown-prince-iran-played
fuck is wrong with this freak?
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 July 2026 23:31 (one month ago)
I remember some vox pop piece in Hackney from Diane Abbott’s first suspension and one pro-Abbott response came from a young Corbynite who was very quickly IDed as Glasman’s student-age son.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 29 July 2026 23:47 (one month ago)
Let's hear him singing instead.
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 July 2026 06:37 (one month ago)
Infamy/in for me should result in a lawsuit from the Williams estate
― crisp, Thursday, 30 July 2026 06:45 (one month ago)
no, I just said it out loud so I own the copyright now
― uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Thursday, 30 July 2026 09:44 (one month ago)
Today I’m announcing a major investment in our nuclear deterrent, supporting 22,000 apprenticeships.Keeping this country safe is the first responsibility of any government - but security isn’t just about what we build, it’s about who builds it.The submarines produced in…— Andy Burnham (@andyburnham) July 30, 2026
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 July 2026 12:26 (one month ago)
jerkoff_motion.gif
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 30 July 2026 13:12 (one month ago)
tired of people boosting starmer itt
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 30 July 2026 13:19 (one month ago)
Is it worth it, a new winter coat and shoes for the wife?
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 30 July 2026 13:31 (one month ago)
There's a bright future in the nuke manufacturing sector
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 July 2026 13:36 (one month ago)
Many Homer Simpsons born today
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 July 2026 13:36 (one month ago)
Burnham will do bad things but there's an agenda here, he will do quite a bit with the power he has.
https://bsky.app/profile/acjsissons.bsky.social/post/3mrwx73n6x227
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 31 July 2026 17:17 (one month ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/31/labour-wins-decisive-victory-in-greater-manchester-mayoral-byelection
Lol @ how the Greens laid over and died for this guy
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/31/andy-burnham-risks-labour-revolt-north-sea-drilling-rosebank-jackdaw-climate
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 1 August 2026 10:33 (one month ago)
lol at the number of feebs still bending over for Labour
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 August 2026 11:59 (one month ago)
I don’t know what you expected the effectively non-existent Green Party in Makerfield to do. Greens got less than 5% of the vote in Wigan in the Mayoral election. This is not a Green constituency.
― AlanSmithee, Saturday, 1 August 2026 19:52 (one month ago)
I'd expected the Greens to attack Burnham every day during that campaign. They wouldn't have won but again, hate 'strategy' and these resource management excuses for not trying.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 1 August 2026 20:13 (one month ago)
Kemi Badenoch defending the Tories selecting this guy btw
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Bonehill-Paine
Badenoch said: "So I want to be very clear, and I think people can look at me and know that I'm not a person who would be recruiting neo-Nazis to the Conservative Party."Joshua Bonehill-Paine is someone who actually has been certified by the Home Office to train police officers on anti-Semitism and on countering extremism."Yes, he is somebody who had been previously convicted for this, but he is someone has shown contrition for his crimes, has been rehabilitated and is spending every day working to solve the very problem which he knew he had caused previously."He's going up and down the country training people and the Conservative Party believes in second chances."This is not just someone that we've picked up who's a convicted criminal, this is somebody who is actively working to help communities, especially Jewish communities and this is what I want to see."I want second chances for people, for people who've learned their lessons, for people who are showing that they know what they did was wrong.
"Joshua Bonehill-Paine is someone who actually has been certified by the Home Office to train police officers on anti-Semitism and on countering extremism.
"Yes, he is somebody who had been previously convicted for this, but he is someone has shown contrition for his crimes, has been rehabilitated and is spending every day working to solve the very problem which he knew he had caused previously.
"He's going up and down the country training people and the Conservative Party believes in second chances.
"This is not just someone that we've picked up who's a convicted criminal, this is somebody who is actively working to help communities, especially Jewish communities and this is what I want to see.
"I want second chances for people, for people who've learned their lessons, for people who are showing that they know what they did was wrong.
― bruich, a stór (gyac), Tuesday, 4 August 2026 11:07 (one month ago)
Oh well, that's alright then.
He later apologised for his past antisemitism, stating: "I felt very angry at how I had treated the Jewish community in this country".
― stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 August 2026 11:26 (one month ago)
I think people can look at me and know that I'm not a person who would be recruiting neo-Nazis to the Conservative Party
Ima stop you right there
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 4 August 2026 11:38 (one month ago)
Joshua Bonehill-Paine
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 4 August 2026 12:36 (one month ago)
What year did subtlety die?https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/talking-to-britains-leading-political-satirist/
― rob, Wednesday, 5 August 2026 12:30 (one month ago)
no idea what the appropriate thread would be but the Amanda Knox comedy show feels like the most textbook example of psychopathic behaviour
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 August 2026 17:30 (one month ago)
could someone unpack all this jason arday business for me?
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Thursday, 6 August 2026 19:27 (one month ago)
I mean a lot of what i'm reading seems like a whole lot of racism, white supremacism and anti-wokism, but wondering if someone had a more nuanced take
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Thursday, 6 August 2026 19:32 (one month ago)
I think Priyamvada Gopal on this is probably correct. Cambridge has consistently failed to build a diverse academic base and, as a way to mitigate criticism, made a high-profile, media-friendly, appointment to a senior position without taking analysis of his professional and personal credentials as seriously as they should. In doing so, they’ve basically engineered a situation that’s being leveraged by the worst people in the country to attack all black professors.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/aug/06/jason-arday-cambridge-dons-demand-accountability-grotesque-racism
― ShariVari, Thursday, 6 August 2026 19:59 (one month ago)
The people who control change in powerful institutions escape scrutiny to a large extent imo. Like their idea of change or diversity or whatever is quite lacking. Jason Okundaye in the Guardian was good on this today I thought.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 6 August 2026 20:02 (one month ago)
Thanks SV, that's useful. Any thoughts on whether theres any substance to the allegations themselves?
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Thursday, 6 August 2026 20:15 (one month ago)
He was cleared of the plagiarism allegations, I believe, but he’s pretty obviously embellished a lot about his early career and personal back-story.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 6 August 2026 20:27 (one month ago)
Gopal was really good on this whole incident, yes
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 August 2026 21:10 (one month ago)
I think the university where he did his PhD announced that it had investigated and dismissed the plagiarism claims, but it's baffling that it did - it looks like a pretty clear-cut case, with dozens of unattributed big chunks of text reproduced with only the lightest of editing. He also had some already published journal articles corrected to add references, e.g. https://www.mdpi.com/2076-0760/12/12/672, and it looks to me that the extent of the 'correction' required would have been grounds for retraction in many other fields or at other journals. I don't think this discredits his scholarship entirely (or discredits the field entirely, as some of the reactionary voices have claimed), but it is something much more substantial than some previous social media-driven plagiarism uproars (almost always targeting people of colour), where what's been identified is often more like run of the mill sloppy scholarship.
One of the strange things is that in the absence of public outcry the universities don't really seem to care about these cases, or don't have the procedures in place to deal with them effectively (or both). The William O'Reilly case that The Guardian article notes (where he copied from his students' essays, and I've read that there's a lot more from him that hasn't been fully reported on yet) is a particularly egregious one, but there are many more examples out there.
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Friday, 7 August 2026 10:45 (one month ago)
it seems a problem that all the made-up stuff about running through a forest without breaking any twigs or whatever appears to have been taken seriously and considered part of this person's qualities, like i guess suggests kind of weird racism refracted through a hiring process that's trying to show that institution isn't racist. also just like, i assume they don't have white professors who propagate this sort of heroic borderline-magical personal branding.
i feel like this kind of thing has happened a lot in recent years tho prob in smaller ways to this. idk about others but my experience of large organisations trying to be anti-racist was it seems like they just do some stuff that won't actually change anything structural or significant but will have the appearance of taking, eg, black lives matter, seriously.
idk how that played out in cambridge uni and hiring this person seems a particularly bad misstep but in general i guess it would be good if it means we focus on the people who have the power to decide what change looks like. this scrutiny would be welcome in other fields too imo.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 7 August 2026 11:01 (one month ago)
one thing i dont understand is how this basically became like the biggest news story of the week. Do university professors warrant such a scandal? It's not like idk the second week of a new prime minister, with fifa at civil war or half of europe on fire, i guess. slow news week innit.
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 7 August 2026 11:13 (one month ago)
It's August so..
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 August 2026 11:14 (one month ago)
I believe institutions especially Oxbridge have always prided themselves on having some performative characters on the academic staff, i don't think that aspect is new tbf altho yeah how that presents thru the lens of horrible racialised assumptions might look different
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 August 2026 12:03 (one month ago)
one thing i dont understand is how this basically became like the biggest news story of the week
cos it fires up all sides of the political spectrum? and prob gets loads of clicks as a result. also cos tbf some of it is pretty funny. the stuff he made up is honestly worth a read.
― LocalGarda, Friday, 7 August 2026 12:06 (one month ago)
Yeah I guess so. People get so heated about any old shit these days
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 7 August 2026 12:07 (one month ago)
takes attention away from Joshua Bonehill-Paine
― mahb, Friday, 7 August 2026 12:16 (one month ago)
its simply that newspapers know they will get clicks by appealing to racists
― . (jamiesummerz), Friday, 7 August 2026 13:10 (one month ago)
There are stories like this once every 2/3 months but they are usually not at the v top of the headlines because there's some political/proper thing that's happened.
Decreases in August so we get this.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 August 2026 13:28 (one month ago)
race riots in Thetford, media seem to be losing interest in this kind of story, done it all before nowhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74g1gxvwlvo
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 7 August 2026 13:45 (one month ago)
xp I'm not sure there are stories 'like this' exactly. Racist and reactionary critics of woke academia everywhere are endlessly poking at whatever they can find, but I don't know that there's been another UK-based case where they've managed to corral around something that seems to have some substance to it (even if the substance it does have isn't the substance they claim it has). 'Woke academics are woke' isn't much of a story, 'woke academics are frauds and university chiefs are blind to their fraudulence' has a bit more to it. (All of the fantastical life story details are a good selling point too, I'm sure.)
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Friday, 7 August 2026 13:49 (one month ago)
I certainly think we've had the gender critical academic who resigned over some free speech type row.
But nothing quite like, or exactly, this. But I feel the narratives, debates, responses and their corrosive effects are things I've seen.
Just an iteration that is meant to stir shit...but is also matter within a university department, which (depending but mostly) shouldn't be at the top of the news.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 August 2026 16:21 (one month ago)
I live in Cambridge & I can’t be bothered to even learn what this is about, if someone tries to explain it to me in the pub tonight I’ll cut them off. Meanwhile as CaAL says the fash are rioting again
― Karmic posing as I always do 🧘 (wins), Friday, 7 August 2026 16:28 (one month ago)
Yes I meant to mention that Kathleen Stock was the one other specific case that managed to get some momentum behind it, though that was five years ago now. Distinctly British TERFism aside I think a lot of this comes down to just another attempt to set American culture wars stuff loose in UK contexts where it doesn't really make sense.
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Friday, 7 August 2026 16:46 (one month ago)
God they are really milking the Arday thing. Can't get away from it. To be frank, I suspect the allegations probably do have substance, but it's painfully obvious that none of these people would give a tenth of a fuck if some white guy got caught plagiarising, even though that probably happens all the time.
― mirostones, Saturday, 8 August 2026 17:24 (one month ago)
They’re currently not giving a fuck about a white Cambridge academic accused of plagiarism.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Saturday, 8 August 2026 17:30 (one month ago)
this was good I thought: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/aug/08/black-academics-respond-to-jason-arday-affair
and this rings true to my experience:
“But it’s a mistake to think of any of this as a meritocracy – there’s lots of people in academia who don’t deserve to be where they are, and there’s lots of people who should be more advanced in their careers than they are.”
Academia even at the top is an easy target, and those looking for a UK Claudine Gay were always likely to find something they could use.
― sous-vide summer camp (seandalai), Saturday, 8 August 2026 23:19 (one month ago)
It seems obvious to me that Arday embellished much of his life story and plagiarized freely in his scholarship, evidencing obvious tokenism on Cambridge’s part in giving him his position. This tokenism is contiguous with white supremacy, but whereas the universities tokenize in an attempt to visibly “wipe their hands clean” of their own inherent white supremacy, conservative white supremacist types universalize these kinds of incidents in order to make spurious eugenicist/white supremacist claims about non-white academics.
TL;DR: this whole thing is a shitshow and nothing good can come from it— either way, white supremacy wins.
― out of the cradle endlessly party rocking (the table is the table), Sunday, 9 August 2026 20:55 (one month ago)
good way of putting it. in general i wish this scandal or these type of scandals led to more scrutiny of the people who decide what change looks like in big orgs.
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 9 August 2026 20:58 (one month ago)
https://metro.co.uk/2026/08/09/hundreds-beachgoers-fall-sick-swimming-uk-waters-29334294/
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 August 2026 19:28 (one month ago)
Can see this going very, very wrong.
Vape shops. Betting shops. Dodgy businesses.If you look at your high street these days and think ‘who asked for this?’, you’re not alone.I’m doing something about it. We’re giving local people and councils more control over what opens, and tougher powers to crack down on…— Andy Burnham (@andyburnham) August 11, 2026
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 August 2026 11:29 (one month ago)
Sure there's an independent artisan bakery ready to pop up on every abandoned high street, and a woolworths.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 11 August 2026 11:43 (one month ago)
Cut my vape supply off and I'm coming for you you pathetic ee bah gum cunt
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 August 2026 11:53 (one month ago)
You could just...ban betting shops...
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 August 2026 11:54 (one month ago)
I wonder whose businesses ‘local people’ will decide to ‘crack down’ on. What even is a ‘dodgy business’?
― crisp, Tuesday, 11 August 2026 12:15 (one month ago)
long periods away from England made it very clear to me that the country is in decline, people are struggling, many are even homeless, loads of businesses have closed, local councils are cutting everything they can, rent and utilities make it almost impossible to run a cafe or a butcher or w/e, but telegraph readers only seem to experience this as "the high street is full of vape shops and nail bars and Turkish barbers, i don't like it, something must be done!" and absolutely refuse to consider the reasons behind this, or that they should count their blessings that anything has survived on the high street at all, also they probably buy everything on amazon anyway.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 11 August 2026 12:25 (one month ago)
xp there are nail bars that "employ" trafficked women, vape shops that sell bootleg ciggies and the "American candy stores" which are blatant money-laundering fronts
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 11 August 2026 12:33 (one month ago)
generally they're more annoyed about the Turkish barbers, though, think we all know why.
All in all much of this stuff sounds like a mayor with a bit more power would do, and the biggest announcement like devolution could amount to merely giving mayors a bit more power.
As a PM he'll be faced with way bigger problems.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 August 2026 16:29 (one month ago)
Devolution = rewiring state paper I posted about last week.
Giving authority to a local level.
But PMing is confronting your enemies too.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 August 2026 16:34 (one month ago)
Good luck, Clacton.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crlw69p6lyeo
Joseph 77 (Independent)Adham Alkhatip (The Forward Party)Count Binface (Count Binface Party)Nick The Incredible Flying Brick (The Official Monster Raving Loony Party)Tony Cane (Independent)Woke Trump Carrzee (Independent)William Stuart James Clouston (Social Democratic Party)Rees Cowne (Independent)Glenn Charles Cummings (Independent)Martin Davies (Freedom Alliance - Real People, Real Alternative!)Andy Erlam (Independent)Nigel Farage (Reform UK)Attieh Fard (Independent)Laurence Fox (The Reclaim Party)Tony Francis (Independent)Robin Green (Independent)Abi Hookway (Independent)Howling Laud Hope (The Official Monster Raving Loony Party)Stephen Richard Ingram (Independent)Amy Morris (Independent)Derrick Norbert Morris (Independent)Michael Noel O'Keeffe (Independent)Martyn OBrien (Independent)Nick Pelas (Independent)Ketankumar Pipaliya (UK VOICE safer and stronger UK)Daniel Pocock (Independent)James Ransley (Consensus Party Candidate)Gerry Smith (Independent)Kai Stephens (British Democrats)John Stevens (Rejoin EU)Baron Von Thunderclap (The Official Monster Raving Loony Party)Pamela Walford (Independent)Marcus White (Everyone is God Party)Marc Wilkinson (Independent)
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 August 2026 09:34 (one month ago)
That's a lot of lost deposits, could be a promising new source of revenue for the state
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 August 2026 09:35 (one month ago)
Banana republic levels.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 August 2026 09:39 (one month ago)
Nick The Incredible Flying Brick (The Official Monster Raving Loony Party)Tony Cane (Independent)Woke Trump Carrzee (Independent)Nigel Farage (Reform UK)Laurence Fox (The Reclaim Party)Daniel Pocock (Independent)
Lol @ all the silly made up names!
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 13 August 2026 09:48 (one month ago)
First name on the list and the person I'd vote for:
His real name is Tom Darwood who says, in a post on his website, external, that he calls himself Joseph as his life reflects the biblical Old Testament figure Joseph "who in effect became a surrogate prime minister". He says he will campaign around Clacton "in song and verse".
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 August 2026 10:09 (one month ago)
Perfectly normal country
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 13 August 2026 11:15 (one month ago)
Good chance of someone getting 0 votes here, which apparently hasn't happened since 1865 in a parliamentary election. Hope it's Fox.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 13 August 2026 11:44 (one month ago)
Depends if he can be arsed to vote for himself. They're gonna need a bigger podium here that's for sure, or do they not all get to go on it?
― lols ulrich (Matt #2), Thursday, 13 August 2026 11:50 (one month ago)
"hasn't happened since 1865 in a parliamentary election"
Who doesn't vote for themselves?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 August 2026 11:54 (one month ago)
Ummm if you don’t live there, obviously you can stand but can you vote?
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 13 August 2026 11:57 (one month ago)
I would think you could turn up on the day?
But who knows. What we have now as democracy isn't a ton better than 1865..
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 August 2026 12:00 (one month ago)
most of these candidates don't live in the constituency
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 13 August 2026 12:14 (one month ago)
you need to get nominated by 10 people in the constituency to stand there, but you don't need to be registered to vote there.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 13 August 2026 12:15 (one month ago)
I guess most comedy candidates stand where they also live, possibly Baron Von Thunderclap doesn't. Or Nigel Farage.
― lols ulrich (Matt #2), Thursday, 13 August 2026 12:35 (one month ago)
Rayner was paid £20,000 for two hours work appearing as the keynote speaker at Property Mark's Property Mark one conference in June this year pic.twitter.com/1gmS11NCtD— Ben Smoke (@bencsmoke) August 12, 2026
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 August 2026 12:43 (one month ago)
xp for notable by-elections where joke candidates stand, they rarely live in the constituency. the MRLP will always stand a candidate in every by-election, until recently William Hill paid their deposits.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 13 August 2026 12:55 (one month ago)
What's farcical is the deposit is £500 and hasn't changed since 1985. It should be at least 10x that.
― Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 13 August 2026 14:09 (one month ago)
counterpoint: UK democracy is already undemocratic enough
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 August 2026 16:13 (one month ago)
Lol yeah don't get why there should be that barrier on entry.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 August 2026 16:15 (one month ago)
farage wins, with more votes than last time.
― koogs, Friday, 14 August 2026 05:27 (four weeks ago)
But he’s not going to the announcement because he thinks someone’s planned an embarrassing stunt.
Who needs irony?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 14 August 2026 05:29 (four weeks ago)
they claim the police told him it wasn't safe. police deny this.
― koogs, Friday, 14 August 2026 06:16 (four weeks ago)
Start as you mean to go on.
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Friday, 14 August 2026 06:18 (four weeks ago)
Yeah he has unsurprisingly picked “what’s the most fascist thing I could do?”
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 14 August 2026 06:24 (four weeks ago)
heartbreaking for the anti-cockwomble faction
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 August 2026 06:32 (four weeks ago)
He’d better learn to do the hokey-cokey because we’ll doubtlessly be back here again in a few months. Am sure most of the posturing about security is an attempt to seed the idea of his vulnerability before he has to answer to the standards investigation.
ACAB but Essex police statement is a masterclass in telling Reform to STFU.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 14 August 2026 07:05 (four weeks ago)
So basically Nigel is not going to turn up to anything because of Anne.
Whereas what happened to Jo didn't worry him because...
― Mark G, Friday, 14 August 2026 07:06 (four weeks ago)
Xpost the police said "there's a threat but don't tell everybody"?
― Mark G, Friday, 14 August 2026 07:15 (four weeks ago)
Another wonderful day in our democracy, where constituents get to actually vote for no one serious.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 August 2026 07:19 (four weeks ago)
Well as long as we uphold a long standing tradition
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 14 August 2026 07:37 (four weeks ago)
hearing Nigel Farage has resigned again
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 14 August 2026 10:24 (four weeks ago)
Apparently first by-election winner not to attend a count since Bobby Sands in 1981. Sands was unavoidably detained elsewhere.
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 14 August 2026 10:48 (four weeks ago)
Bobby Sands never suffered as much as Nigel Farage has these last few months tbf.
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Friday, 14 August 2026 11:06 (four weeks ago)
Was looking for the ‘Laurence fox: the idiot’ thread, but maybe I hallucinated it. But 347 votes. Doubt his financiers will be too interested in carrying on.
― a hallan shaker loon (dowd), Friday, 14 August 2026 14:00 (four weeks ago)
Burnham has sprung into action re:climate crisis, and has put a temporary ban on the sale of disposable BBQs.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 14 August 2026 14:28 (four weeks ago)
Thing is, did Winston Churchill go on about the risk to his safety in a personal capacity, during WW2? No, he just ferreted himself out of harms way. Not stand out there going "I'm at severe risk more than anybody, people..."
― Mark G, Friday, 14 August 2026 14:40 (four weeks ago)
hearing Nigel Farage has resigned again― glumdalclitch, Friday, 14 August 2026 10:24 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 14 August 2026 10:24 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Nah, Rachel Reeves would tell him to "sling his hook" this time.
― Mark G, Friday, 14 August 2026 14:44 (four weeks ago)
I mean, the ban on disposable BBQs is a response to the fires, not climate change. Sure, the fires are the result of climate change, but that doesn't make banning disposable BBQs a bad idea.`
― a hallan shaker loon (dowd), Friday, 14 August 2026 14:54 (four weeks ago)
they should be banned completely, not temporarily
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 14 August 2026 14:55 (four weeks ago)
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 14 August 2026 15:28 (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/aug/14/burnham-temporary-ban-barbecues-tinderbox-britain
And asked about North Sea drilling, said he would take a “pragmatic” approach, and argued: “We won’t be able to stop using oil and gas for some time, that’s just a fact.”
Thoroughly Starmeresque answer. Doesn't answer the question or address the issue, just blurts out a broad factoid as if that provides support for politically-motivated policy.
As far as I can see, nothing about extra reservoirs, food storage, climate preparedness, workplace rules, home restructuring
Just terrifying how happily these people abandon the public
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 14 August 2026 15:03 (four weeks ago)
they should be banned completely, not temporarily― Camaraderie at Arms Length,
― Camaraderie at Arms Length,
otm
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 August 2026 15:08 (four weeks ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/aug/14/why-is-andy-burnham-so-reluctant-to-talk-about-climate-crisis
Yet he has avoided any comment about the failure of the same political class over the same period of time to ensure our hospitals, schools, public buildings and homes were adapted to cope with the sort of extreme heat the country is now experiencing.The result of those years of neglect is that: a key government department in charge of protecting our food supplies and environment has just 20 staff working on climate adaptation; nurses are fainting as they treat patients in A&E departments receiving record numbers of summer patients; school teachers have taught in classrooms where temperatures are over 40C (104F); and farmers are warning of low crop yields, livestock feed shortages and potential domestic food price increases.All of these things are happening to the ordinary people that Burnham has famously championed throughout his political career.In order to thrive, they require a healthy environment, a safe and cool place to work and the assurance of affordable food on their plate: yet it is these which are increasingly threatened by the impact of the climate emergency.
The result of those years of neglect is that: a key government department in charge of protecting our food supplies and environment has just 20 staff working on climate adaptation; nurses are fainting as they treat patients in A&E departments receiving record numbers of summer patients; school teachers have taught in classrooms where temperatures are over 40C (104F); and farmers are warning of low crop yields, livestock feed shortages and potential domestic food price increases.
All of these things are happening to the ordinary people that Burnham has famously championed throughout his political career.
In order to thrive, they require a healthy environment, a safe and cool place to work and the assurance of affordable food on their plate: yet it is these which are increasingly threatened by the impact of the climate emergency.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 14 August 2026 15:09 (four weeks ago)
There's no hint of a national strategy to wean ourselves off oil and gas.
Might as well have a climate change denier as PM
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 August 2026 15:11 (four weeks ago)
He should be looking at schools getting air source heat pumps and air conditioning fitted as standard. Crazy that schools having to close with the knock on effect on child care because they can’t stay a safe temperature.
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 14 August 2026 15:16 (four weeks ago)
he's not gonna look at shit
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 August 2026 15:43 (four weeks ago)
Sad, but true
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 14 August 2026 16:37 (four weeks ago)
Any thoughts on the police coming to Anneka Svenska's house advising her to do a thinking skills course (for reporting about beagles being killed by MBR)? On search I'm mostly seeing rightwing news about it but there's a video of it happening. Apparently this was the online safety act being enforced but was she breaking any actual laws? Can politicians or Ofcom just call the police to do this? Are there previous instances of police asking people to do a thinking skills course?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 14 August 2026 17:47 (four weeks ago)
Should I know who Anneka Svenska is?
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Friday, 14 August 2026 17:49 (four weeks ago)
Animal rights activist, new to me
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 14 August 2026 17:51 (four weeks ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/aug/14/andy-burnham-new-ev-sales-targets
Andy Burnham’s government has said it will look at cutting electric vehicle sales targets, in proposals that could add millions of tonnes a year to the UK’s carbon dioxide emissions.The government launched a consultation on Friday on cutting the target for new EVs to as little as 50% of all new cars in 2030, down from 80% under existing rules. The consultation will include several options, including leaving the headline target unchanged, or cutting it to 70%, 60% or 50%.The decision to consider weakening one of the UK’s key climate policies was announced hours after the country recorded its hottest day of the year so far – and the fifth hottest ever – after five heatwaves that scientists have said are almost certainly worsened by global heating caused by carbon emissions.
The government launched a consultation on Friday on cutting the target for new EVs to as little as 50% of all new cars in 2030, down from 80% under existing rules. The consultation will include several options, including leaving the headline target unchanged, or cutting it to 70%, 60% or 50%.
The decision to consider weakening one of the UK’s key climate policies was announced hours after the country recorded its hottest day of the year so far – and the fifth hottest ever – after five heatwaves that scientists have said are almost certainly worsened by global heating caused by carbon emissions.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 14 August 2026 17:51 (four weeks ago)
My phone just bleeped with a severe wildfire alert. ILY, 2026.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 14 August 2026 18:02 (four weeks ago)
we have five phones in the house right now and they all went off at the same time
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 14 August 2026 18:04 (four weeks ago)
"well it's either nuclear war or some bullshit"
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 14 August 2026 18:05 (four weeks ago)
I didn't see what it was because I was too busy trying to make the fucking racket stop. guess I'll die
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 14 August 2026 18:06 (four weeks ago)
the wildfires are bad but i feel like whoever gets to press the "fuck with everybody's phone" button might be abusing their authority here
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 August 2026 18:58 (four weeks ago)
also what's MBR?
MBR Acres is in Huntingdon Cambridgeshire, apparently they breed dogs and send them out to labs and people have been trying to get it shut down for years
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 14 August 2026 19:20 (four weeks ago)
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 August 2026 16:43 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 14 August 2026 17:37 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Proved us all wrong, didn't he!
Make phone go BARR BARR job done!
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 14 August 2026 19:39 (four weeks ago)
Jason Arday has died. What a sad story.
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 14 August 2026 20:25 (four weeks ago)
Fuuuuuck :(
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Friday, 14 August 2026 21:02 (four weeks ago)
really grim - so many people who have done so much worse, and they weren't hounded this way I wonder why
― sous-vide summer camp (seandalai), Friday, 14 August 2026 21:07 (four weeks ago)
Hounding a person to death is like a national pasttime here
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 August 2026 07:19 (four weeks ago)
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 14 August 2026 bookmarkflaglink
Didn't get this. Maybe because mine is an old Huawei phone I've had for about seven years #thankYouPresidentXi
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 August 2026 07:22 (four weeks ago)
My wife got the alert in Welsh first, accompanied by an automated voice reciting the Welsh in a very heavy American accent. I've turned off such alerts in my settings, so didn't receive it.
― dubmill, Saturday, 15 August 2026 08:19 (four weeks ago)
Andrew Neil's tweeting about how sad it is etc. after bullying him for a week, even has the gall to talk about a "duty of care"
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 15 August 2026 09:21 (four weeks ago)
To those saying the Jason Arday coverage wasn't racist...compare and contrast the coverage when a white Cambridge professor was found to have plagiarised. If you google this there's about 5 stories about it, one in the local student newspaper, and it blew over in a few days. pic.twitter.com/hOIocWaNmr— Rosalynd Southern (@rv_southern) August 15, 2026
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 August 2026 11:00 (four weeks ago)
I don't recommend reading the replies to that tweet.
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 August 2026 12:33 (four weeks ago)
Prime Minister Andy Burnham says following the death of Jason Arday, it's not a 'moment for any rushing to judgement', but a moment to 'reflect on how things came to this'
Inadequate as usual.
Kathleen Stock is saying something similar too
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 August 2026 14:30 (four weeks ago)
can't rush to judgement until your comms team have come up with the best triangulated platitude to appease yr imaginary racist supporters
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 August 2026 14:41 (four weeks ago)
In unrelated news, Burnham has written two columns for The Times since May.
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 15 August 2026 14:51 (four weeks ago)
the emergency warning was front page news this morning, specifically the "chaos" it caused and how the new PM was bad for using it.
jrm, remember him, tweeted instructions on turning the warnings off.
it's a strange world
― koogs, Sunday, 16 August 2026 13:39 (four weeks ago)
oh and the bbc radio news led with reform's proposed benefit cuts
― koogs, Sunday, 16 August 2026 13:40 (four weeks ago)
Which could have been sent as an alert.
Imagine the DM front page!
― Mark G, Sunday, 16 August 2026 14:07 (four weeks ago)
I keep staring at this catastrophic graph, produced by the UK national security establishment for a report blocked by the Starmer government until FoI forced a redacted version pic.twitter.com/SdvptyaROo— Daniela Gabor (@DanielaGabor) August 18, 2026
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 August 2026 18:39 (three weeks ago)
Burnham unveils plan to get rough sleepers off streets for Christmas
with the necessary political will you could end rough sleeping in a month, and i believe that's a conservative estimate. you could end it permanently, but then you'd have to tackle homelessness, which would take longer and would "cost money" in the short to medium term. there's no necessary political will in the PLP to do this. anything less is just a bit of philanthropy cosplay for his tongue-clucking dimwit fanbase.
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 August 2026 08:17 (three weeks ago)
Maybe but thank fuck he even noticed its a problem worth tackling, after 16 years of it growing into a worse and worse problem
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 19 August 2026 08:41 (three weeks ago)
i'd argue that "a roof over your head for Christmas, as a treat" suggests he isn't as outraged by it as he ought to be. but i'm bad at grown-up politics so
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 August 2026 08:48 (three weeks ago)
oh i assumed it was towards a more long term solution lol egg on my face
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 19 August 2026 09:10 (three weeks ago)
ah right. i don't read it as that
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 August 2026 09:12 (three weeks ago)
the Graun implies it's permanent, the BBC doesn't, Burnham's words are ambiguous surprise surprise. whole thing feels wishlist-y
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 August 2026 09:14 (three weeks ago)
Where I live in Central London there’s a huge rough sleeping issue and whatever TPTB can do about it will be welcome.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 19 August 2026 09:23 (three weeks ago)
Think The Guardian should be looking at it's role in how they could've written better about Jason Arday. Not feeling like this cuts it.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/aug/19/rightwing-witch-hunt-jason-arday-legitimate-journalism
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 August 2026 14:13 (three weeks ago)
too little too late but the creepy nazi shitstain who started this whole thing has been suspended by his employer...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/aug/20/academic-who-accused-jason-arday-of-plagiarism-suspended-by-his-university
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Thursday, 20 August 2026 22:08 (three weeks ago)
I saw Will Self's very long article, very on point, about that accused basically using Jason Ardley as confirmation bias
― Mark G, Friday, 21 August 2026 06:46 (three weeks ago)
https://willself1.substack.com/p/2089334077635641747
― Mark G, Friday, 21 August 2026 07:51 (three weeks ago)
I read that too, thought it was excellent.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 21 August 2026 07:52 (three weeks ago)
The Jason Stanley one is excellent too: he is an academic in philosophy and talked about Arday’s excellence here: https://jasonstanleyantifascist.substack.com/p/it-sure-looks-like-jason-arday-was
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 21 August 2026 08:45 (three weeks ago)
Thought it was a cop-out by Self not to mention Arday tormenter Toby Young, his former editor on the Modern Review and possibly the UK fash most aligned with Cofnas-style eugenics.
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 21 August 2026 08:49 (three weeks ago)
I was also a Modern Review contributor and had only one interaction with him, just before he spiked the final issue in favour of turning it into his CV (he printed an issue with all his past pieces instead, and used it as a calling card for eg. Vanity Fair). My editor there (for music stuff) was Kodwo Eshun!
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 21 August 2026 08:53 (three weeks ago)
I was wondering if this was the right thread to mention Julie Burchill's "I deserve every penny of my PIP - most people don't" article in the i* but I thought no that'll probably be too lunch of a segue...
*which I'd somehow missed had been bought by the Daily Mail's DMG on 2019, which makes some sense of how it's been recently.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 21 August 2026 11:21 (three weeks ago)
much! too much of a segue!
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 21 August 2026 11:22 (three weeks ago)
Hilarious to see these 'fares frozen till March 2027' ads.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 August 2026 14:04 (three weeks ago)
BREAKING: Ofgem has announced a 4% rise on July's price cap, which will see billpayers in a typical dual fuel home pay £1,723 - up from the previous cap of £1,663
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 August 2026 12:53 (two weeks ago)
Gosh Martin Lewis is going to be absolutely fuming about this!
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 26 August 2026 13:26 (two weeks ago)
But he'll probably explain how you can save up to 10 bob a month by having yourself declared a listed building and signing up with an online energy company based in Rockall
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 August 2026 13:27 (two weeks ago)
People are going to die while Burnham Pied Pipers kids into providing free supermarket labour with his acoustic fucking guitar
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 August 2026 13:29 (two weeks ago)
A Cambridge prof can't get his head around austerity and racism (German edition).
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/aug/27/fellow-east-germans-frustrations-afd-state-elections
This opening is priceless.
It was in the summer of 2004 that I stopped understanding my own people. I was standing on a sweltering market square in Aschersleben, the town where I was born, picturesquely situated on the northern edge of the Harz mountains. A large crowd of angry people had gathered in front of a stage to protest about the welfare reforms (or, as many saw them, welfare cuts) introduced by the Social Democratic-Green coalition government under chancellor Gerhard Schröder. They chanted “We are the people!”, waved handpainted placards and seemed utterly beside themselves.I had gone to secondary school nearby, volunteered at the local hospital and interned at the local newspaper: I knew this place. And yet I found myself bewildered. What, exactly, did these deeply aggrieved people want – standing on a freshly renovated, almost idyllic market square? Weren’t things going reasonably well for them? Where did this burning resentment toward the west come from? Wasn’t the east-west divide supposed to be disappearing by now?
I had gone to secondary school nearby, volunteered at the local hospital and interned at the local newspaper: I knew this place. And yet I found myself bewildered. What, exactly, did these deeply aggrieved people want – standing on a freshly renovated, almost idyllic market square? Weren’t things going reasonably well for them? Where did this burning resentment toward the west come from? Wasn’t the east-west divide supposed to be disappearing by now?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 August 2026 11:30 (two weeks ago)
know your shitlib audience i guess
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 27 August 2026 11:48 (two weeks ago)
news on oddball contrarian, Frank Furedi
Head of Viktor Orbán’s favourite thinktank quits over unpaid wagesFrank Furedi announces resignation from MCC Brussels after organisation’s staff ‘not paid in July or August’
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/aug/31/viktor-orbans-thinktank-mcc-brussels-crisis-frank-furedi-quits
― djmartian, Monday, 31 August 2026 18:36 (one week ago)
His son is a journalist who has just married a former Edgy Style Mag assistant editor.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Monday, 31 August 2026 19:26 (one week ago)
Hungarian contrarian quits.
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Monday, 31 August 2026 20:45 (one week ago)
Can I continue that in a Danny Kaye way rendering things meaningless?
― Mark G, Monday, 31 August 2026 22:15 (one week ago)
Kieth stepping down as MP, going to "turn his focus to international affairs"
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 1 September 2026 11:57 (one week ago)
Trilateral commission?
― bruich, a stór (gyac), Tuesday, 1 September 2026 12:07 (one week ago)
he's going to accidentally join the Build-a-Bear Group
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 1 September 2026 12:15 (one week ago)
well you can’t say he doesn’t have his constituents’ interests at heart
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 1 September 2026 12:23 (one week ago)
a woman in every port
― egg + sound/vibration + hug = harmonic egg (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 1 September 2026 12:41 (one week ago)
A rare glimpse of a more pompous, vain, self-important Starmer than his heretofore warm affability has hinted at
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 September 2026 12:45 (one week ago)
Twat should never have gotten involved in politics in the first place. In other news, Reform down to third in the latest opinion poll.
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 September 2026 15:03 (one week ago)
https://bsky.app/profile/gregk.co.uk/post/3muhhdutzws2j
definitely worth a punt I reckon
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 1 September 2026 15:21 (one week ago)
Gregk FoleyImagine if they hire him as the replacement for Karim Khan at the ICC and he immediately drops the genocide charges against Israel lol13:47 · 1 Sept 2026
the lay of the land, Holborn & St Pancras
🟢Lots to weigh up for Zack Polanski in deciding whether to run for selection as the Green Candidate in Holborn & St Pancras. Will Andrew Feinstein - the left-wing independent who came 2nd to Starmer put himself forward? (My understanding is that this is unlikely now Starmer…— megan kenyon (@meganekenyon) September 1, 2026
― djmartian, Tuesday, 1 September 2026 16:05 (one week ago)
I hope Polanski runs in Stoke Newington and Hackney (his actual constituency) when Diane Abbott retires.
As a H&StP constituent, I have no idea who’ll get picked to stand by Labour.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 1 September 2026 17:09 (one week ago)
As we consider the Bayeux Embroidery we should remember the many killed by this French invasion. English men and women had their lands stolen. Many were put into serfdom by a new Norman governing class.— John Redwood (@johnredwood) September 3, 2026
Comrade Redwood
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 September 2026 16:29 (one week ago)
What goes around comes around, I'm sure the Anglo-Saxons understood that.
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 September 2026 16:52 (one week ago)
hm wonder how he does not join the dots to "this ruling class are still in charge and need to be guillotined"
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 3 September 2026 16:54 (one week ago)
slimebag Farage investigation by C4
Coming tonight: Channel 4 News and @Verbatim_Media reveal an undercover investigation inside Reform UK.Watch at 7pm on Channel 4 or YouTube. pic.twitter.com/WNqIVfmDes— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) September 3, 2026
― djmartian, Thursday, 3 September 2026 17:04 (one week ago)
Full Video:
Our yearlong investigation reveals Nigel Farage courting illicit funding as part of a plot to bring foreign money into British politics, orchestrated by his top aides and caught on hidden camera. pic.twitter.com/YBJm4CBg8A— Verbatim (@Verbatim_Media) September 3, 2026
― djmartian, Thursday, 3 September 2026 18:25 (one week ago)
more dodgy stuff:
Crypto billionaire pardoned by Trump gives Reform UK another £4mhttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/sep/03/reform-uk-crypto-billionaire-ben-delo-pardoned-trump?CMP=share_btn_url
― djmartian, Thursday, 3 September 2026 18:29 (one week ago)
It's policy like this that could swing the election for them.
Farage has indicated that the body of the first president of France, Napoleon III, could be repatriated to France if he becomes prime minister.
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Friday, 4 September 2026 14:50 (one week ago)
there's oddly a blue plaque for napoleon iii here in leamington spa
― nxd, Friday, 4 September 2026 15:41 (one week ago)
He was a populist proto-fascist clown so Farage's concern for his postmortem whereabouts checks out.
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Friday, 4 September 2026 16:26 (one week ago)
a shame on us, the birth place of aleister crowley, for having that blue plaque up then lol
― nxd, Friday, 4 September 2026 16:42 (one week ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/sep/04/canary-staff-not-paid-amid-fears-for-news-websites-future
But the outlet faced significant financial challenges in July after it announced that it was unable to pay staff and contractors as a result of Lloyds Bank unexpectedly blocking access to “a substantial amount” of its money. The bank did not give a reason.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 September 2026 18:44 (one week ago)
Isn't "your shit aaaaahhhh" a reason?
― he composed genius songs and all the rest was a crap (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 September 2026 19:27 (one week ago)
Lol yeah not exactly in mourning but I wonder what happened here
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 September 2026 20:37 (one week ago)
It was a while back i think? I can imagine political bias and "this is not a going concern" both being true in this case. Obv I'm not cheering for a bank
― he composed genius songs and all the rest was a crap (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 September 2026 20:40 (one week ago)
They got debanked.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Friday, 4 September 2026 20:41 (one week ago)
If true, possibly sounds more like a formal investigation than ‘please take your business elsewhere’, particularly if they still don’t have access to the money two months later.
― ShariVari, Friday, 4 September 2026 21:11 (one week ago)
what the actual fuck
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/sep/05/black-clad-protesters-balaclavas-block-road-port-of-dover-kent
― Angine de Postecogloutrine (NickB), Saturday, 5 September 2026 12:26 (one week ago)
It's a good job they weren't protesting against genocide or environmental destruction or else they might have gotten arrested.
― mirostones, Saturday, 5 September 2026 12:43 (one week ago)
It's been "condemned by the government" though so all's well
― grobbing thistle (Matt #2), Saturday, 5 September 2026 12:47 (one week ago)
Schools are back I hear
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 September 2026 12:50 (one week ago)
idk if Mike Huckerbee, Randy Fine and Itmar Ben Gvir all threatening the U.K. with varying degrees of specificity is going to work out well for the Israeli cause here.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 8 September 2026 07:51 (five days ago)
They already think the UK is full of Muslims stabbing and raping people willy Milly so no big loss.
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 September 2026 08:12 (five days ago)
Willy nilly, that is.
Milly is what they call our foreign secretary
― Karmic posing as I always do 🧘 (wins), Tuesday, 8 September 2026 08:24 (five days ago)
Missed opportunity for a Milly Molly Mandy lineup
― he composed genius songs and all the rest was a crap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 September 2026 09:54 (five days ago)
completely bonkers:
Deranged Danny Tommo and his barmy blackshirts:
"Danny Tommo, surrounded by masked men outside the Daily Mail, has reportedly given the newspaper 48 HOURS to buy his mother a new house, threatening continuous protests “with everyone” until it does."
🚨 What on earth is going on? Good grief! Danny Tommo, surrounded by masked men outside the Daily Mail, has reportedly given the newspaper 48 HOURS to buy his mother a new house, threatening continuous protests “with everyone” until it does.Whatever his grievance with the… https://t.co/MkcTNiNrRo— Liz Webster (@LizWebsterSBF) September 9, 2026
― djmartian, Wednesday, 9 September 2026 15:35 (four days ago)
two 36m pound donations to reform in a week
is that it for British politics?
― koogs, Sunday, 13 September 2026 14:00 (four hours ago)