Freaks & Geeks

I really wasn't expecting that hermaprodite bit, that was an interesting twist.

The $120 special edition boxed set even has table readings, for pete's sake.

xpost; slutsky, I thought the same thing, but $120!

(Not to mention the hugely overpriced Prisoner discs.)

i thought that was sort of a weird story.

but you're crazy to diss the beautiful and talented Busy Phillips. Whenever she would utter "Like I give a care," I'd fall in love all over again.

I think she is on ER, but I can't say for sure since I don't watch that show.

(xp)

(woah, the photo on her IMDB page is scarrrry)

that may have been the best moment in the entire decent, but overrated series. I kinda liked the Dead episode, of course.

The anachronisms (this one didn't seem so off) are really annoying.

That Kim episode is pretty goofy but it doesn't get too out there in terms of destroying the momentum of the show.

But that Stiller episode is soooo bad. 1) sam dumping the cheerleader, 2) george bush makes an "appearance", 3) ben stiller overacts, 4) A HERMAPHRODITE! W?T?F?, 5) haverchuck jumps over that shark on his motorcycle.

*END SPOILERS*

I will admit that knives are out for Ben Stiller. I was just afraid watching every episode that he would pop up as a 'favor' to Apatow and when he did, it bothered me. Plus, I don't find him credible as an actor so I think that his acting style contrasts highly with the other much more believable actors.

The hermaphrodite storyline is just so bizarre. It also seems highly contrived to me since their relationship pops up again in this episode and guess what? She's a hermaphrodite. OOPS! So funny.

I guess my main complaint is that it seems like they packed an entire second season into the last few episodes. Maybe they did that because they knew that the show was going to be cancelled and wanted to at least get their storylines on the screen, but to me it feels rushed and corny in a way that didn't fit with the previous episodes.

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/511/511505p1.html
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/509/509708p1.html

I wish there were more Lindsay/Sam scenes where they interact without the parents around, there's a warmth there that seems really natural. Pretty much my favorite scene so far in any episode is when Sam is freaked out from finding out that Neil's dad is having an affair, and he asks Lindsay whether she thinks their dad could have an affair. The dad walks up in his undershirt, boxers, and dark socks and says "Did someone say my name?" The kids look at him and just start laughing, mostly from relief.

We've started watching them again with commentaries. Watch out world!

This makes me laugh everytime I open this up.

(xpost - tep i love u and i kiss u)

and freaks & geeks is awesome u r all tep.

my box set arrived today, what a package! thirty commentary tracks, old adverts, outtakes, audition reels, deleted scenes, well packaged etc.

the hermaphrodite episode is done reall well actually, a lot better than I thought it would be. in fact I think the only ep that's stuck in my craw was 'kim kelly is my friend'. all that running about and arguing in the weir's house is too far-fetched and not even very useful.

http://idg.communication.utexas.edu/flow/?jot=view&id=508

here's another:

http://idg.communication.utexas.edu/flow/index.php?issue=Volume%201,%20Issue%203&searchbyline=Heather%20Hendershot&jot=view&id=465

I saw an e-mail/posting from Apatow that the DVD company had authorized funds for them to start clearing music last summer, so maybe spring/summer '05.

Joe Flaherty was the worst thing about the show.

stroker represent!

the little kid that maureen sits next to on her first day at school (with the glasses on)!

the guy that tells franco abt the dude who broke his leg in gym class!

Cindy Sanders is looking pretty cool in that picture! (n/a, just cutting and pasting the location worked for me.)

Also - SHE'S INDIE HOT! I'D HIT IT! UNGH UNGH UNGH!

http://www.asuh.com/images/IMG_3777.jpg

also another great minor character: eli!

Did all teenagers listen to The Who back in 1981 tho'?

The anachronisms (this one didn't seem so off) are really annoying.

The anachronisms really don't bother me at all

This isn't an anachronism. 1980 was still part of the classic rock era. The number one song in the yearly poll on WNEW-FM, "Where Rock Lives," (but my cabdriver was playing it yesterday, instead of a classic rock station, now it is a classic disco station!) was "Won't Get Fooled Again" year after year back in those days. In fact, the only quibble I've found is when Ken says to Nick "Why would you even know that song?" about Chicago's "25 or 6 to 4." I don't see any good reason why Ken wouldn't know it himself.

I'm into the second half of my marathon viewing- last episode on fourth disc. Wish me luck.

But I don't hate it, I just feel strangely disconnected from it. And I do think it's fairly flawed. But something about it just doesn't ring quite emotionally true.

do you trust this instinct (assuming its an instinct)?

I'm a bit in the Melissa camp and think I've realized my particular issues. yes, it rings a bit true, but one, i'm just a little too young for it. two, the people i went to high school with were a lot smarter. also, urban. also, richer.

Cue Slacker thread. They may have been "richer" and "urban," but the unique group of geniuses you grew up with exists primarily in your head.

this is interesting too. I think big-city kids may find the show off because they grow up faster, in certain respects.

I don't want to insult you, mel, it's not what I'm trying for, cs if I was I wouldn't hand around this thread and argue with you, or talk with you, but this seems a silly line to take to me. a reaction that when I have it, I immediately distrust it and start to examine why it is and how its come to be tht I'm feeling it. but this may be a mere difference in temperament & feeling.

lindsay's issues are those that the whole of the educational archipelago & the rest of thence-informed society urgent & key needs to move past, or rather address. when lindsay says she might not want to attend the academic summit because 'it's dumb!' she might be articulating in a really adolescent way but what she's articulating is maybe so powerful because of the juvenility of the idea and because it's so obvious, so there: that a summit of the 'greatest young minds' of the country sitting around class learning might just be 'dumb' (clue: it's not dumb but it does help replicate - by being another part of the mechanics of replication - more of the shit tht holds these people (clue: 'freaks') (clue: 'geeks') (tho tht power line doesn't split equally) in sway). i.e., the summit is not the way out of the mire lindsay's already in, it's not a way forward but a way to remain still. the writer's of F&G may only half know this, the writers of 'if....' may be set in horror at it, but (brecht brecht) (as in jaw jaw) desquirrelling (how many ls, how many rs) this or these ideas are now our job, because culture is full of little bombs for the future's past.

But when my mild feeling of "eh" comes slamming up against a chorus of oohs and aahs, it makes my reaction stand out in such stark contrast that it almost begins to feel like hate.

3xpost

You don't even have a point. Because I was depressed and fucked up in high school over things I couldn't control means I have to sympathize with Lindsay's mild angst over nothing at all? Means you have the right to demean my feelings and bring up my REAL issues (AS IN THEY ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO ME) because you have a hard-on for a tv show that I don't happen to like?

When the hell did I say this?

My god, you are such a cunt. You're the one who wants to feel superior right now.

I'm not talking about being advanced. I'm talking about Freaks & Geeks being so cursory compared to what that time is ACTUALLY like. I'm sorry if Freaks & Geeks more accurately reflects my middle school experience and can't measure up to the fucked upedness of my high school experience and I'm fucking sorry if therefore I have a little bit of a problem relating to a pretty little princess and her perfect family and her bullshit angst. High school isn't cute and awkward. It's just fucking not.

high school can be horrid, esp. without perspective, i.e., lowered expectations.

Linda C. played an ingenue in a Hollywood-behind-the-scenes drama on AMC called "The Lot." This was shown almost in parallel with F & G. It was cheesy but I kind of liked it anyway.

Lupton, I think I'm in agreement with you.

my wife was asking me when we watched it if i had fun at make out parties and i told her i never went to one. basically i grew up looking like Gordon Crisp until I hit my junior year in high school and lost 100 lbs. A really good looking freshman girl decided that she liked me and we went out and then went back to her house and she sort of jumped me on the couch. I had no idea what to do, and the part where Neil said "if you do it right, you'll know" made me think of that. it was a great moment in my life.

We watched the first episode again last night and loved the free-stylin dj kid.

Oh man and the indian manager at the cafeteria.

im getting these episode at an annoyingly slow rate since netflix only send one disc at a time and there are only 3 episodes on each disc. my first impression was A)none of these people are good looking! wtf? (busy excluded, of course) B) what is this? an americanized, 80s via 90sfied degrassi? but im really enjoying it now. i still get uncomfortable with the millie and sam's crush scenes because my high school was packed with girls like that and it gives me some bad deja vu. i like nick a lot. i had two friends in high school that had drumkits just like his. anyway, i just watched the episode where lindsey's mom accidently breaks up with nick for her. waiting for more.

you are crazy!

-- carly (carlygoodma...) (webmail), Today 11:55 AM. (carly) (later)

hey, i like my tv pretty. i wont apologize.

I find basically every female on this show attractive, including Millie. I don't know what's wrong with me.

Come to think of it, that happens a lot on this show.

boo, hiss!

Something is wrong with me.

Lindsay Weir is Andy Garcia's daughter; I am blur in green jacket in crowd scene.

if lindsey weir became real i would date her no matter what

she is tight

I have a friend who says she can't watch Freeks and Geeks because her fiance is unhealthily obsessed with Lindsay Weir.

I would date her after she went to college and got a little more relationship experience, maybe. But she probably has a rule against drummers.

I would rescue her from those deadheads she disappeared with in the last episode

BONAROOOOOO

That's one of the most authentic high-school things about her -- how she probably won't have friends who are particularly like her until college.

Possibly also some part of why the show's audience was small but fervent -- there's a huge identification factor for the subset of people who grow up kinda splitting the difference between freaks/geeks, navigating a smart-but-uncool group on one side and a cool-but-losery slacker set on the other. (I get the feeling more kids do that kind of navigating than we'd imagine, though.)

yeah i identify pretty strongly with lindsey

also want to marry her

I was definitely closer to Sam than Lindsey.

I think I am most like Judd himself, who said he based Sam on his early high school years, and Lindsay on his later HS years.

Also how did lindsey get so much less hot when she was in brokeback mtn and ER :(

blonde does not suit her its true

I think I am most like Judd himself, who said he based Sam on his early high school years, and Lindsay on his later HS years.

yeah this is def. true for me too - by senior year I was growin my hair long and discovering the joys of beer

navigating a smart-but-uncool group on one side and a cool-but-losery slacker set on the other

Word.

I was a lot more like Kim personality-wise in high school, but I went through a lot of the same situations as Lindsay. My brother is so much like Daniel Desario it's scary (he even looks like him!).

Don't they even imply that Lindsay was like Sam in early school, w/ the whole mathletes thing?

I dunno, I never envisioned Sam, Bill, and Neil as particularly good students (like most of the real geeks I knew)--either Paul or Judd point this out in the DVD notes. Being an academic nerd and a cultural nerd (if you will) are two very different things.

Apart from maybe Neil, though, Sam seems slightly less likely to have a big split from his early-HS "dork" friends -- whatever he winds up doing, you kinda imagine Bill heading there too, right? Which seems like a pretty accurate split between boys and girls around those ages: you don't as much see guys having splits like the Lindsay/Millie one. (If only because ... Sam's friends aren't dorks because they're "good" kids or rule-followers or prim -- they're just, like, big goofy dorks.)

(Ha, there's kind of a level where you could half-imagine Sam turning into a Desario, Bill turning into a Nick, and Neil turning into a Ken.)

I had a bit of a Lindsay moment when I went from hanging with nerdy science kids to ELMO'S DRAMA CLIQUE OF SEXXXXXXINESS. Also one of my nerd friends described me as a slacker like it was an accepted fact u_u

see, thought lindsay w. was always kind of annoying

not as annoying as angela chase, though.

millie's hot!

Angela Chase's teenage annoyingness is the greatest thing about that show, though, especially if you watch it now. Her sister puts on her shirt for Halloween and comes out all like "OMG you don't understand, don't you ever feel like everyone's, like, ice skating, and you're the only one who can see that the ice is ... like ... cracking" (*) and it's the BEST THING EVER

(*) = not a quote, just a made-up "deep" Angela Chase metaphor

who the hell is angela chase?

My So-Called Life, Claire Danes

ugh that show

(I don't know if the writers intended Angela voice-over to actually scan as deep, but it's so fucking hilariously teenagey and kinda stoned-sounding that you get the sense they're winking at you a little: "People are always saying you should be yourself, like yourself is this definite thing ... like a toaster.")

(Haha also her initial description of why Jordan Catalano is hot is actually a description of how Jordan Catalano is stoned all the time, with the salient points being that she likes the way he leans on things -- "he's, like, a good leaner" -- and that he's always closing his eyes "like it hurts to look at things." He is then pictured several times over the next few episodes putting Visine in before class.)

more like it hurts to look at Claire Danes amirite

<i>I think I am most like Judd himself, who said he based Sam on his early high school years, and Lindsay on his later HS years.</i>

UGO: How much insight did Linda Cardellini give into the writing for her character?

PAUL FEIG: Linda was so much that girl that she didn't have to do much; she just inspired. When I first wrote the pilot, I based a lot of the characters on people I knew. But the Linda character was one I just completely invented. I didn't know a girl like that, although I'd seen them around. So she was like a total invention, and was somewhat like me in my 30s. And I kind of had a picture in my head of what she should look like, and when Linda walked in it was like, "Oh my god, that's the girl." It was like this weird moment where she popped out of my head. So she was always so great to write for, and so willing to go with us on different stuff. And she'd let us know if something didn't ring true.

UGO: Was she the sister you wish you had?

PAUL FEIG: Yeah, totally, because I was an only child.

i watched this for like 12 hours straight at ATP

the guidance counselor kills me... when he breaks out the acoustic guitar to play alice cooper - eighteen wtf

hey some of those chords are really hard

I'm a boy (or girl) and I'm a man (or woman)

Lindsay I think you should start calling me Mr. Rosso again.

watching this for the first time since ninth grade and srsly judd apatow make sam weir a star already

Weir looks COMPLETELY different these days

http://www.serienjunkies.de/Seriendarsteller/John-Francis-Daley/John-Francis-Daley.jpg

lols

he is so cute on the show, it's like watching a cat macro act

still not as good as Undeclared

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1385/bizarrocodeec0.jpg

i am on the second to last disc of the box set and i don't want it to end! will undeclared fill the void?

not really. :(

no

no it wont but its still great!

really just wait a week and rewatch freaks and geeks again.

max otm

thirded

"watch it again" not "rewatch it again," altho i promise you, you will rewatch it again after youve rewatched it for the first time

depends - did you prefer the Freaks or the Geeks?

I sold my DVD set to John Justen halfway through.

Undeclared remains ace, though.

the geeks, def

that is nonsense it doesn't depend. you should watch Undeclared because it is funny and charming, but it won't fill the void; it is just not as good.

milo's contrarian position continues to befuddle

are the characters in undeclared all lovable and poignant and hilarious like in f&g?

theyre pretty loveable, only sorta poignant, but mostly hilarious. but theyre all also worse actors (for the most part) and while its a more straightforward comedy it loses all the "holy shit this is just what it was like" that f&g has

some of the characters are lovable but on the whole they're less fully-realized than the ones in Freaks and Geeks and there's less poignance because there's just less going on. sometimes Undeclared is very funny, though.

xpost or exactly what max said

screwed by the half-hour format imho

HAHA XPOST: The characters on Undeclared don't really get time to develop anywhere NEAR as much as on F&G, especially with the half-hour format. So, like, not really.

So now Bell you KNOW this is true

best characters on undeclared are all f&g alums, especially eric, who's played by nick andopolis

jason segal is a hero

also <3 david krumholz who has a bit part, why does this dude not get more work?

he has a tv show!!

I'd forgotten his bit part on Undeclared -- this helps explain why he showed up in the Firefly movie!

ARGH WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT -- apparently Whedon/Apatow just got crossed in my mind as "TV people I like"

I did not even know about this tv show! it looks dumb, though.

millie the vampire slayer. xp

"numbers" is ok. hes the best part. his bits on undeclard with segel and kyle gass are YF 4 all time tho!

esp the running gag about his slutty girlfriend who's always cheating on him

he is going to be in the Harold + Kumar sequel-yay!

Oh right, I forgot about Millie getting traded between those two.

And I still maintain that the last episode of Buffy contained a big reference to the last episode of Freaks and Geeks (everyone sitting around playing Dungeons and Dragons with Millie!).

"YF"?

YummyFresh

milo's contrarian position continues to befuddle

An entire show about the freaks I would have loved.

YODA?

the d&d bit in the last ep of freaks and geeks is one of my all-time favorite filmic moments everrrrrr

YOGA FLAME

milo if you dislike haverchuck, then i dislike you

Bill watching TV after school = kind of my top TV thing ever, maybe

i love haverchuck but i cant get enough of the dungeonmaster kid, what is his name?? hes basically the most perfect character in all of TV. i went to a summer camp for "gifted and talented" kids where 70% of the male population was literally taht dude. i love him wispy mustache and al.

Harrison? Hamilton?

his moustache is AMAZING

Harris.

http://quovadimus.blogspot.com/harris.jpg

Harris kind of reminds me of my very first boyfriend. I mean that as a compliment.

I used to tutor a kid who reminded me a lot of him. that kid was awesome.

My 8th-grade Dungeon Master looks pretty much exactly like that. Except he had an awesome gift for malapropisms. He once said he had "some cream of wheat of mushroom soup, in a thermostat."

Umm, "looked." No really, I passed 8th grade and stopped playing D&D, I swear.

Harris = Bill Murray's test subject in Royal Tenenbaums

no, that's Haverchuck!

no, it's Harris.

if you listen to the audio commentary on Freaks & Geeks they talk about it.

/geek

It's Harris. It's the only other acting job he's ever had, IIRC.

I smell an unnecessary poll.

its not unnecessary, its MANDATORY

wait WHAT? I have been thinking it was Haverchuck for YEARS. my world is topsy turvy.

haverchuck was in knocked up, tho

hahaha his redeye scene. it was barely a joke but he made it happen. they should have given him more to do.

the 6th F&G dvd just came from netflix, it will soon be over :(

the only really bad ep in the whole series (IMHO) is the fake ID ep, which is all sorts of weirdly dark and badly shot

the bar stuff was dumb (and badly shot) but kevin corrigan's scenes were great

the fake ID photo set is teh awesome

haha man a while back I found a porn actress who bore a not insignificant resemblance to Lindsay Weir, if I could remember her name probably half the dudes who've posted to this thread would pay me cash money for that information.

Melissa, have you decided on the DVDs yet?

where's that poll nabisco

in all but appearance, i was sam weir and i find his plots really hard to watch.

where's that porn nabisco in baltimore

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, November 6, 2007 2:50 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

waht

Sam Weir is a recurring guest on the delightful Bones now.

in all but appearance, i was sam weir and i find his plots really hard to watch.

i was sam for the first two years of high school and lindsey for the last two, and i find the show really cathartic in a weird way. most of the time i just want to shout at the screen, "wait till college lindsey!!! it gets better than this!!!"

haha yeah fr reals

okay so i finally watched all of this show! and miss it so much right now :(

Anyone else catch the reunion in SF??

Martin Starr deserves more attention.

man, undeclared mostly sux dix

and the second post in this thread is always awesome

Joe Flaherty was the worst thing about the show.

-- Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:26 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

ban

saw ep last night where nick writes a song called 'lady l': possibly funniest thing ever, topped when ken stops him playing it by pretending to be pete townshend and smashing hisn guitar.

I've been rewatching this - something that seemed a lot funnier this time: episode that begins with Nick playing to a Rush song and rocking out, his dad comes downstairs and just gives him a look.

http://ziza.ru/2008/07/30/lica_podrostkov_14_foto.html

Russian remake

[sam weir] is so cute on the show, it's like watching a cat macro act

-- A B C, Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:33 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

SO otm. Just got into this 2-3 months ago and am trying to pace myself.. I saw the one last night where the gym teacher starts dating Bill's mom.

many amazing haverchuk moments in that episode.

yeah the "I'm One"/Garry Shandling/dinner sequence is great

that is a serious contender for best episode

yeah that Garry Shandling stareoff thing actually kind of gave me the chills!

Also - Coach drinking out of "BILL" coffee cup was classic.

lauren loves haverchuck

i do!

that is one scary unibrown at the bottom

unibroW

Bill Murray? That guy's a wiseass.

haverchuck is so loveable!

Adult Sam Weir kind of makes me feel uneasy. I miss the lolkid. Grownup Neal is unfortunate looking. We need haverchuck mohawk photos!

http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/m/O/P/knockeduppic21.jpg

oh wow TOTALLY did not recognize him! This is the guy whose girlfriend is the giggling stoned idiot and couldn't shave for a month or whatever right? Must go rewatch.

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/SFSketchfest2008_002_JMM.jpg

Oh yeah, the guidance counsellor is pretty much my uncle and it kills me!

haha wow

Yeah first time I saw the guidance counsellor I said something like "Come on, there's TWO of you?" Best part is my Aunt, his ex wife, is world's biggest Alice Cooper fan so I probably have heard my uncle do Eighteen - don't remember if he did the "I'm a man (or a woman!)" bit though.

hah that is awesome!!

I think I made the mistake of finishing my MFA program the semester before James Franco enters it.

Oh man.. a lifetime of regret

at first i thought the guidance counselor was chris elliot in a wig

YES!! I couldn't remember who other than my Uncle I was being constantly reminded of... thank you

why is patton oswalt in that photo?

that's who millie grew up to be

just got round to watching the first two episodes of this on youtube (major pain in the arse cueing up every ten minute section, tho)cuz i'm a apatow fan anyway... and it's really good! the fake beer party episode is well funny. the fight scenes with the geeks and the bully are spot-on in terms of what most school fights were actually like, grabbing people's legs and stupid shit like that. hehe

I think I made the mistake of finishing my MFA program the semester before James Franco enters it.

aw man

the fake beer party episode is well funny.

"we'd like a keg of beer please."

"don't see that happening."

maybe i should transfer...
xpost

Bill as Jamie Somers = BEYOND CLASSIC

I think I made the mistake of finishing my MFA program the semester before James Franco enters it.

-- nabisco, Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:32 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

you're at nyu? i thought you were at columbia for some reason.

(i read in US weekly that JF is going to nyu next year)

(also i <3 him)

it really is the best show ever isn't it? for all it has its failings

I love TV

Anonymous said...

there is a girl that lives in my city and she lures alts back to her den by inviting them over to watch "freaks n geeks" and drink stella artois.

once they are lured inside they watch freaks n geeks for like 10 minutes before she straddles them and then she makes her way with them.

after she has her way with them she cooks them breakfast in the morning and they leave never to hear from her again.

this happened to 6 of my friends and she tried it on me, but i already knew she did it to my friends so i didn't go over because i assumed one of those dirty dudes had the clap or something and also because i knew Freak N Geeks is too mainstream now.

its kinda sad to see who's had huge subsequent success out of this cast - the guys by and large have done really well (with a couple exceptions) but the girls seem to have gotten the shaft. Linda Cardellini has what - the Scooby Doo movies and ER? I wonder how uncomfortable "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" made her...

besides seth rogen & jimmy franco who else is doing good? you think lindsey weir is mad she's on ER instead of how i met your mother?

meanwhile sam weir is guesting on the pam anderson sitcom "stacked" and neil schweiber did a 2 episode run on the steve harvey show

she was also in Grandma's Boy

"Forgetting Sarah Marshall" grossed $63 million in the US. I think that counts as "doing good" for Jason Segel. John Francis Daley is a regular on "Bones" now. Don't know what their ratings are like. OTOH, Busy Phillips is on "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles."

sam weir is on that one show with the dudes and the microscopes and the white erase boards

martin starr had some apatow movie cameos

well the show essentially had 1 female lead (arguably 2 including Busy Phillips) and half a dozen male leads, so that's not really fair. but being on post-'90s ER is almost like a theoretical success; the ratings are decent and i'm sure it pays well and you're technically famous, but who gives a damn?

basically what it comes down to is Apatow bro'd down with the bros, not the chicks, and thought of them when it came time to cast his film projects.

Rogen/Franco/Segel are all doing really well and look to be bringing Martin Starr along for the ride. John Francis Daly is on a fairly successful primetime TV show. Schweiber seems like the lone male castmember who should resign himself to sitcom guest spots.

As for the girls, Linda's on a show that's on its last legs and is about to be cancelled. Busy Phillips I haven't seen in anything. Haven't seen Millie in anything either, but I dunno if she counts as a "major" character.

basically what it comes down to is Apatow bro'd down with the bros, not the chicks, and thought of them when it came time to cast his film projects.

^^^exactly. which is kinda sad considering how great the girls on the show were. that's all I'm sayin.

yeah i wish busy phillips was in more stuff

i think she just had a baby? she's great.

one love, tuba girl

http://www.iplugin.org/typo3temp/pics/9be2966f6e.jpg

omg

O_O

hotsa hotsa!

woah tammy metzler lookin fly

i found that pic on a page from an "interactive cinematic installation" she did in 2004 (her last imdb credit is '02), btw, so that's some supporting evidence for shakey's premise.

interactive cinematic installation

sounds kinky

nobody from undeclared got famous except rogen

jay baruchel pops up in stuff (tropic thunder, and i think he's in nick & norah's infinite playlist too)

that one chick was in CARNIVALE

that british dude sucked anyways

i said famous homie not "in nick and norahs infinite playlist"

probably more people saw him in tropic thunder than they did on undeclared

homie

british dude was the evil hippie in Children of Men

haha i almost brought up his dreadhead role in that but i figured that isn't really any more an indication of fame than nicky'n'nora's totally kickin' ipod or whatever

also co-starred in the hilarious Green Street Hooligans (hobbits get violent)

He was also Nicholas Nickelby in Nicholas Nickelby.

i did appreciate it when whats-her-face from undeclared was one of the random chicks that jason segal does it with in forgetting sarah marshall

Jay Baruchel was in a movie that won Best Picture:

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Being on ER rather than riding the Apatow-crew comedy train might look like a bad turnout in hindsight, but c'mon: that was big-time career success that far outstripped the others, at a time where no sane person would have bet on Seth Rogen ever getting to star in anything, anywhere.

Busy Phillips was on Dawson's Creek, was on ER for a while, and had a major role in a shitty sitcom about a dating agency that rapidly got canceled, which I saw one episode of and Phillips was not exactly saving anything.

Jay Baruchel's in Apatow stuff, Nick and Norah etc., and starred in I'm Reed Fish, and I suspect his current career as a sort of teen-movie Jimmy Fallon is going to work out just fine for him.

The girl who played Vicki Applebee was on Reba forever and is set to star in some newish thing and is probably doing better than Cardinelli, actually.

Millie was on Buffy for a while but is, let's face it: (a) not some kind of stellar acting talent, plus (b) odd-looking in a way that surely makes her pretty hard to cast right now. (Maybe this will change as she gets older.)

I saw tuba-hermaphrodite in something, at some point, and I'm not sure why there's any surprise here that she's hot; she was hot with the tuba, too.

I suspect Jay Baruchel spends a lot of time saying to his agent "lemme guess...Justin Long got the part."

sort of teen-movie Jimmy Fallon

this is really mean

And yes, Sam has a significant recurring role on Bones.

I think the cast members of this show have had a better overall career turnout than most anything I can think of, including a few shows that were kinda huge!

xpost - not mean at all!

Linda Cardellini was in a movie that almost won Best Picture:

http://sp1.fotologs.net/photo/49/50/22/linda_cardellini/1217028167288_f.jpg

yeah, I think in some ways being in a well-liked show that gets cancelled quickly is better career-wise than being on a ratings bonanza that locks you into that job for 5-10 years. you don't get the syndication money, but you're open to a lot more opportunities as far as jumping into film.

c'mon jaymc, Legally Blonde was shortlisted but i'd hardly say it "almost won" Best Picture.

I saw tuba-hermaphrodite in something, at some point, and I'm not sure why there's any surprise here that she's hot; she was hot with the tuba, too.

― nabisco, Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:08 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

TAMMY METZLER

hi guys i'll be right back, i'm gonna scroll up and gaze at that picture for a few seconds

ok, i'm back

Ladies and gentleman, Shia LeBoeuf:

http://s4.tinypic.com/qs1v6e.jpg

look to be bringing Martin Starr along for the ride

well, sort of. he's basically doing bit parts.

yeah i kind of doubt Apatow's got a lead role for him in the pipeline

Additional things learned from IMDB

- surprising number of them have worked through Seth Macfarlane voice-acting machine
- Harris was in The Royal Tenenbaums
- Natasha Melnick was on Boston Public as a character named Rainy (and there is kind of a resemblance!) </old-school ILX reference>

- Harris was in The Royal Tenenbaums
You needed IMDB to tell you this?

Neal Schweiber's going to be in Tarantino's WWII movie, I think.

Haha given that I last saw Tenenbaums before ever seeing more than 3-4 episodes of Freaks & Geeks taped off of ABC Family, yes, IMDB came in handy on that one

yeah i kind of doubt Apatow's got a lead role for him in the pipeline

― some dude, Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:26 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i bet he does

I bet he does too cuz the dood is awesome

easily the best male lead in F&G, with the possible exception of Segel

Charlie Hunnam just popped up recently to star in Sons of Anarchy on FX - he's pretty good in it!

I am pretty pumped for Neal Schweiber in that Tarantino movie

i did appreciate it when whats-her-face from undeclared was one of the random chicks that jason segal does it with in forgetting sarah marshall

― max, Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:02 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

she has similarly short and skanky parts in 40 year old virgin and superbad

i heard the first bit of this
on a recent studio 360. it made me realize how much i miss this show.

is segel on how i met your mother? i should start watching this because i love him, but that show seems kind of bad to me...

what the fuck is wrong with veoh and why did they take the last episode of this down????

Haverchuck 4eva

I had never seen all the episodes before now (thanking u google video) and now I am very sad there are no more to see.

Clip up there makes me want to reread On The Road and like it.

this overshadows the whole Rogen/Apatow/etc comedy entourage's subsequent output embarrassingly imo.

agreed x1000

truth detonation of epic force

bs

not quite bs, but, yeah, wrong

I don't know, while I enjoyed those movies they didn't seem to have the heart or character depth that the show did.

Well, the format is kinda on Freaks & Geeks side with regards to establishing character depth.

yeah agreed except for maybe superbad, which is probably the closest to f&g of any of the apatow movies.

I think one of them claimed they started working on the Superbad script when they were 14 or something.

Is this show really as good as everyone says it is? I've never seen it.

I think you'd like it, Mr. Snrub.

i remember watching this when i was like 14(?), forgetting almost all about it until last year, and re-watching every episode in about a week on veoh last year. i've got it on dvd now. one of those things that you think cant be as good as everyone says but i just love it

last year...last year

I didn't watch this show until a few years ago but burned through the DVDs in one weekend. I should probably rewatch them again soon.

after all this time, STILL NO REGION TWO DVD. hurrah for other ways to watch this in the UK.

this is the mitochondrial eve of quirky cinema, right, yeah, right?

no that would be Woody Allen

that's like the first mammal. this is the small band of 100 ppl that migrated from africa

its certainly mitochondrial something for Apatow's stable of current stars

i think it might be undeclared tbh

After 10 years of delaying watching this for no good reason, I've spent the last week falling in love with the show and just a few minutes ago finished the last episode. Sad it's over.

Favorite scene of the entire series: Bill stuffing his face and laughing at the same time to Gary Shandling doing stand-up on tv. Sounds ridiculous, but that scene had a lot of weight to it.

And speaking of Bill, he and Kim were that show's secret weapons. I thought I was going to fall in love with Lindsay after the first couple episodes, but it developed into a big love for Bill and Kim equally.

It won't be anytime soon, but I'm sure I'll mark off a week sometime in the future and watch the whole series again.

I also watched this for the first time recently. I don't have anything interesting or new to say - yeah yeah, basically as good as anything I've ever seen.

I also hopped on this bandwagon in the past couple of weeks. great show, almost everything rang pretty true for me.

BILL FUCKING HAVERCHUCK - why is Martin Starr not riding the crest of the Apatow wave?

srsly

I only realized about half way through watching Freaks & Geeks that I'd just seen Martin Starr in in Adventureland playing a not-entirely-different kind of character. I assume he'll be instantly recognizable to me if I go back and watch some of the Apatow movies again as well. <3 that dude.

Literally just started watching it for the first time after being brow-beaten into it by a friend (also all the James Franco love around here lately wasn't discouraging). I thought it would be uncomfortably awkward and hard to watch, but it isn't, at least not so far. Definitely ringing true.

"I prefer to get high on life!"

Martin's doing really well, though, Pillbox - the great Party Down series on Starz, Knocked Up, Adventureland, and I spotted him in the trailer for the upcoming Ricky Gervais movie as well. He does deserve a lead role in something big, for sure (more so than Rogen, of that cast).

http://10.media.tumblr.com/GC6hrM4xRoagrx3hORJmQRW1o1_400.gif

awesome

Is this show really as good as everyone says it is? I've never seen it.

― Mr. Snrub, Monday, April 13, 2009 2:33 AM (8 months ago) Bookmark

Three episodes/one disk in (fuck a Netflix), it's not THAT good but it's okay. Why is the blond girl such an insufferable bitch?

the geeks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the freaks

I don't understand what's so "freak"y about the freaks. I expected there to be, like, dyed hair and tottoos and tons of boy piercings and shit.

So I got this box set for Christmas, and I'm watching it all for the first time. Does the editing ever get any better? Or am I doomed forever to watch 10 second reaction shots after each line?
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, December 26, 2004 1:45 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ This is completely OTM.

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Why is the blond girl such an insufferable bitch? If she doesn't become your (at least) second-favorite character by the end of the show's run, you're doing it wrong.

Gosh Mr Snrub and Melissa don't like one of my fav shows, I cry and cry and cry

Btw Snrub it is set in like 1980, v few boy piercings at the time

also in suburban michigan

Wait until the last disc for the punk stuff.

BTW I just saw Gruber (who played Mr. Rosso, the guidance counselor) as the warm-up act for Cinematic Titanic (with two other F&G actors.) He did a piece set to "Year of the Cat"--pretty funny.