JESS DO YOU LIKE YUENGLING??

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― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:12 (twenty-three years ago)

*swoon*

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:20 (twenty-three years ago)

sweet ambrosia how long has it been since your sticky brown goodness dribbled carefree down the back of my pate?

(a: new years eve)

apparently its williamsburg hipster drink of choice these days

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:21 (twenty-three years ago)

there are hipster drinks? wuh? isn't it cheapest beer = coolest beer? thus, yl, pbr, high life and bud (my fave) rool the skool!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:24 (twenty-three years ago)

aside from williamsburg, it is also very popular at SHARKEY'S KARAOKE SPORTS BAR in/near hummelston, PA (the next williamsburg?) where they have porn behind glass above the men's room urinals.

$5 a pitcher.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:24 (twenty-three years ago)

it is philly-brew is it not?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:26 (twenty-three years ago)

pottstown pa

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:28 (twenty-three years ago)

and america's oldest brew?

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:28 (twenty-three years ago)

people look at you funny if you order something else in my hometown.

one of the (the only?) plusses of oly over penn: you can buy booze in the grocery and convenience stores.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:28 (twenty-three years ago)

It's swiftly become my favorite beer.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:29 (twenty-three years ago)

There are several breweries, including one here in Florida. Its one of the better swill-beers, but still swill.

― fletrejet, Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:32 (twenty-three years ago)

:-o

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:33 (twenty-three years ago)

(fletrejet, a member of the microbrew of the month club, says)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:33 (twenty-three years ago)

>(fletrejet, a member of the microbrew of the month club, says)

Not a member of any beer of the month club because Florida doesn't let people ship alcohol by mail out of state.

And if big brewers made good beers I'd drink them, but they don't (in the US), probably because the market for them is too small.

― fletrejet, Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyone out there had Natty Bo? I'm speaking to people in the Maryland/No. Virginia areaz...

― jm (jtm), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:39 (twenty-three years ago)

YUENGLING ROOLZ!!

the question for Jess is, do you like Stegmeyers?

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I like Yuengling. *sniff*

― hstencil, Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:31 (twenty-three years ago)

oh i love you so, sweet lager

$6.75 pitchers + karaoke = many many runious nights ca mid-'01 for maura (and my little gut too, but now they make light haha hooray)

― maura (maura), Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:40 (twenty-three years ago)

i like the way it's kind slightly leaning over in a coquettish fashion

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:47 (twenty-three years ago)

</mouseover>http://yuengling.com/images/fine_beers/lager.jpg

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:54 (twenty-three years ago)

ok that's not so coquettish

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:07 (twenty-three years ago)

try this

http://yuengling.com/images/fine_beers/lager.jpg

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:33 (twenty-three years ago)

and yet it's stock still

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:34 (twenty-three years ago)

the first image is after 8 of them

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:52 (twenty-three years ago)

i wish there were a way to turn auto-linebreaks off, Graham!! </grump>

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 21 February 2003 00:04 (twenty-three years ago)

fletrejet is an elitist fuck I KNEW IT

― Millar (Millar), Friday, 21 February 2003 01:32 (twenty-three years ago)

>fletrejet is an elitist fuck I KNEW IT

If i were elitist, why would I even bother talking to you cretins?

― fletrejet, Friday, 21 February 2003 02:38 (twenty-three years ago)

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― moogoogaipan, Friday, 21 February 2003 03:53 (twenty-three years ago)

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 21 February 2003 03:55 (twenty-three years ago)

WOW

Floored by googlerboardbotspam!

― Millar (Millar), Friday, 21 February 2003 03:56 (twenty-three years ago)

well this thread has taken a turn for the bizarre since 3

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 21 February 2003 04:41 (twenty-three years ago)

it is philly-brew is it not?

its not Chinese?

― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 21 February 2003 07:56 (twenty-three years ago)

fletrejet: cheap /= swill. Yuengling is cheap and yummy, a sort of American beer that's nearly died out.

Natty Boh hasn't REALLY been Natty Boh since 1989 or something.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 21 February 2003 09:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Damn...so Natty Boh has changed? Ou sont les bieres d'antan?

(I never could get the accent marks right.)

― j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 22 February 2003 01:18 (twenty-three years ago)

wooo! Yuengling is BIG here in State College!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 22 February 2003 01:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I miss my beer oohh so much :( They don't sell Yuengling in MA.
I stick to Steel Reserve 211 High Gravity casue it does the job in small doses.

― brg30 (brg30), Saturday, 22 February 2003 19:29 (twenty-three years ago)

brg you should try the new st. ides hg. it's 8.2%. that swill will twist your face up though.

― Aaron A., Saturday, 22 February 2003 19:38 (twenty-three years ago)

i got drunk on "hard lemonade" last night...it was a poor substitute

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 22 February 2003 21:05 (twenty-three years ago)

According to the NYT, Rheingold is the return of the retro NY state beer --fools!

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 24 February 2003 00:40 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

oh man i want some right now.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 March 2004 03:53 (twenty-two years ago)

pissy lager-drinking pansies.

O what i wld do for a nice Hoegaarden verboten vrucht right now...

― petra jane (petra jane), Friday, 5 March 2004 06:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it pronounced "youngling"?

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 5 March 2004 06:49 (twenty-two years ago)

yee-ngling

i was drinking it in central PA not far from the brewery when i imagined this thread.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 5 March 2004 07:22 (twenty-two years ago)

and i mentioned that already up above sorry

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 5 March 2004 07:23 (twenty-two years ago)

gawd, i would love some yengling right now

― H (Heruy), Friday, 5 March 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

i had some last night, but it's not as good out of cans

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 March 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

it's a nice beer but surprisingly not always available in NE Ohio, for some reason Straub is easier to come by.

For mass produced American beer, Rolling Rock is my hands down favorite.

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 5 March 2004 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Rolling Rock is crap. I was dumbfounded to learn that anyone outside of western PA drinks it. Yuengling is good and not too pricey. Best mass-produced American beer = the High Life!

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 5 March 2004 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

i think much of the love for yuengling in the p-dot-a comes from the fact that it's a beer you can get for $1-2 at most bars that doesnt taste like bear urine

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 March 2004 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)

The High Life is second to mighty Rolling Rock. Oh, Latrobe!

― 33 4 Life (lawrence kansas), Friday, 5 March 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

haha yuengling is $4 in dc--but everything else is $5!

http://www.trayman.net/Images/Logos/Iron%20City.jpg

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 5 March 2004 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

oh dear god I had some IC Light a couple months ago. see bear urine comment above

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 5 March 2004 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

well, that's what you get for drinking IC Light. my dad claims that the single worst thing he's ever seen in his life was a guy drinking a can of IC Light through a straw.

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 5 March 2004 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

but Mario Lemieux's picture was on the can! The only thing missing was some cheese fries from the Big O.

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 5 March 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Had some last night. Night before too. Drinking some in those pics in the What Do You Look Like thread. Can't get enough.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 5 March 2004 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

It's great.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Friday, 5 March 2004 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

props to you, lawrence, for stepping up for Mario. but he should know better than to be on a lite beer can. (actually i've heard that he's got quite a wine cellar in his palatial mt lebanon mansion...)

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 5 March 2004 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

i'ma go have one when i have my dinner

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 March 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

One or the Rolling Rocks tastes just fine. It'll turn on you after that.

― Aaron A., Saturday, 6 March 2004 00:47 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

Yuengling should partner up with MIA to do a commercial...

yuengling a ling a ling

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 13 June 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

this is the only thread devoted to yuengling.

yuengling.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Yuengling should partner up with MIA to do a commercial...

they'd do a lot better to partner with LL

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

lord i want a beer

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

you and me both. fuck why did i ever take up breastfeeding? i want ALCOHOL.

http://www.alisonprice.co.uk/images_for_html/drinks/d_recipes/mojito_top_pic.jpg

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

i'm actually licking this thread now.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

oh my

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

HOTT

― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

that glass of ecto-cooler has a rectal thermometer on it

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. That is one funny lookin' mojito (and I love me some mojito).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

for all i care there can be oil inside that glass, i'm okay with it as long as there's fucking RHUM inside it as well.

shit, i remember, i can't drink.

ARGH!

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

I grew up in the heart of Yuengling county, strike that, Schuylkill.
America's oldest brewery they used to say. It certainly tasted true.
From Schuylkill to Luzerne, the mini-regional beer that marketed itself pretty smartly. Its 'other' brands were Bavarian and Chesterfield Ale.

The biggest brewery in the region was Schaefer, near Trexlertown. I probably drank more Piels, which was one of their alternative brands, dieing with Schaefer, I think, although maybe someone else bought the rights to it. Strohs took over Schaefer in the 80's and enjoyed a mercilessly brief run in the area. The last I knew, the Trexlertown vats were being leased to Yuengling.

http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/07/hazelton-town-in-pennsyltucky-coal.html

― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Monday, 24 July 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Piels still exists, or at least it did up until 2002. My grandfather went through a few cases a week right up until he died.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 July 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

RIP GRAMPS. U R A GRIM SPECTER OF MY FUTURE.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 July 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

Piels! For drinking in the bank seat on the way down the Schuylkill Expressway to see Black Sabbath at the Spectrum.

This is somewhat harsh:
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An old school name from Brooklyn, NY now contract brewed by Pabst. (What else is new, right?) At $1.29, it was cheap, but there are far better beers and malts, even in THIS price range. Not horrible, but it didn't impress me either. 2/10

this was an average 'bad beer'. i had comparisons to old style in my mind before i even drank it, and that wasnt far off. i got this really cold but it didnt have as much carbonation as i would have liked. i havent had old style recently and cant remember if its quite this bad. piels kind of sucks, golden aniversary you would think to be real bad but it was WAY better then this shit, golden aniversary rules

Piels is just another average beer 40 like Bud or Coors. yields no significant buzz but seemed pretty smooth going down with a normal beer taste. I'd rate Piels 5 of 10 Swills.

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Brooklyn? Definitely was made by the gigantic tub in Trexlertown for awhile.

― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Monday, 24 July 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Piels still exists, or at least it did up until 2002.

Piels or rather pils is a flemish word for beer.

WTF. Just learned more about this:

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pils

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilsener

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 24 July 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

Ah sweet drunkery.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 July 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

"lager"

― mts (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

lord i want a beer

-- david allen grier (wt...), July 24th, 2006 11:45 PM. (dubplatestyle) (link)

I was convinced Jess had been assimilated by the Lordi arockalypse until I saw there was a space in there.

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

Yuengling = beer shits. DISCUS

― Lmaoborghini (eman), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

did you see what happened to rolling rock? (not that it was that great anyway, but still sad)

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

whenever I'm in NY or Boston I forget that you can't just ask for "lager."

One of my best friends was born & raised in Pottsville. There was a rumor that the people who go to the church next to the brewery get boozed up afterwards, but she says that's not true.

― Zwan (miccio), Monday, 24 July 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

eman otm but it's kinda worth it, it's beer

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 24 July 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

plus pooping is fun

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 24 July 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

maybe in whatever pussy city you're from

― Zwan (miccio), Monday, 24 July 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

haha x-post

― Zwan (miccio), Monday, 24 July 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

pooping is fun in pussy city

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 24 July 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

i bought non-yuengling tonite

shame

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

bastard

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

i had this in carolina, was obliv to it prior, really really wish you could get this in georgia - so solid.

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

solid is the perfect word, really

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

how do you feel about the blackandtan

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

i am drinking some belgian shit right now, and while it's tasty, i couldn't drink it all day at a barbecue from 2 to 10.

xpost: i got no problem with it, but i dont search it out

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

One of my best friends was born & raised in Pottsville

Me to thread. Did you know that before you were born some natives of Pottsville were known to entertain the fancy that P-ville was the Rome of southeastern Pennsylvania, because, they said, like Rome, it was built on "Seven Hills"? I spent my summers on one of them. I did not fully appreciate its Rome-like nature.

Downtown Pottsville, sucked dry by suburban shopping malls, scratches the eyes. The signs of municipal putrescence are everywhere. Along Centre Street, main and hardened artery, vacant stores beg for tenants with desperate red telephone numbers stenciled on plywood where windows used to be. Automobiles, peppered by coal trucks and salted by PennDOT, wait impatiently at traffic lights, eager to get out of town. Even the parking meters look cold and penniless.

William Ecenbarger, Philadelphia Inquirer, May 16, 1984

A decade later, the first time I visited the small city with the unmusical name of Pottsville, I was struck by a regional exhaustion awesome in its frank display. It's too easy to curl my lip, I know. Pottsville had been obliged to accustom itself to disdain and condescension enough from John O'Hara, its most famous citizen. I resolved to remember that if the Region was sooty, grim, and used-up. . .

-- from a review of a biography of John O'Hara, who said more bad things about Pottsville than anyone could

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Sometime during the late Nineties someone clever at Yuengling recognized the snob boutique microbrew boom as a marketing opportunity. "America's oldest brewery" would resonate with people who viewed themselves as hipsters.

The result, bars in New York City and Philadelphia who sell Yuengling as a premium beer to rubes with no taste but a desire to be seen as cool. If you're one of these and reading this, listen up! Yuengling was never hip. It is made in a region inhabited by people who hate you and everything you stand for.

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May you vacation, some fall, in Pottsville.

― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:19 (nineteen years ago)

i have never understood this "yuengling as hipster beer" thing!! it was always just...beer. like ordering water or something.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

As for drinking after church, in Schuylkill country, Pennsy: If you did it, and it was done, it was in the firehouses, the equivalent of private clubs or beneficial societies, until well into the mid-Eighties. "Blue laws" were in effect in most of this part of the state until I left for soCal, making it somewhat difficult to drink to excess on Sunday spur-of-the-moment unless you had stockpiled your booze in the home or made a special advance purchase for Sunday party or picnic.

like ordering water or something.

Yeah, there were a number of beers like that in Schuylkill, Yuengling being the dominant brand. Often among "old people," or those whom you think fit the definition.

― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

i REALLY like their light beer! [when i drink, that is]

― mts (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

i am drinking some belgian shit right now

hoegaarden? jupiler? stella? *insert a million other types of belgian beer*

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

hoegaarden. it's given me a headache this morning.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Yuengling's black 'n' tan was virtually indistinguishable from what's bottled and marketed as Mississippi Mud in soCal. Reading had a bar frequented during my Albright College years that went crazy for Yuengling b'n't and with bowls of salted peanuts specials. And there was a corner bar outside Moravian College in A-town called the Little Big Horn that went for the same. It kept the owners and the patrons happy. It was a cheap night out, a lot of blue collar drink bang for buck.

I'm surprised I actually still remember this stuff.

― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

i'm surprised hoegaarden is so popular abroad. probably due to the freudian pronounciation. ho ho ho.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

there are hipster drinks?
- yanc3y, 2003

Oh what an innocent time 2003 was.

― the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

I drank Singha at the ballpark last night. Singha in an American ballpark!

― jergins (jergins), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Tries hard. Fails. Misspells "sieg heil" while citing Rheingold as Nazi beer. Doh! Rates beer as "taut."

http://www.blacktable.com/beerrun030123.htm

Yuengling Traditional Lager
Although its brewed in a small Pennsylvania town, Yuengling tastes like it was brewed in a larger, more industrialized town. Perhaps Pittsburgh? Or maybe Allentown? After only two Yuenglings I feel I have the strength to take on a Puerto Rican gang, kill them, and steal *their* hubcaps.

Rating: Taut.

Coors Light
More than half of the women in New Jersey can blame their unwanted pregnancies on Coors Light. It's also universally known as the beverage of choice for men who wear braided belts and Co-Ed Naked Volleyball T-shirts. Despite its popularity, this beer is as flaccid as an impotent monk with testicular cancer. I'd rather have somebody pee in my mouth after they've just won an asparagus-eating contest.

Rating: Soulless

Rheingold
It's so elegant. I feel like I'm in the Fatherland. Mein gott! Those Nazis must have put up a tougher fight than we remember. The white can makes this look like a pussy beer, but it's surprisingly hearty.

Rating: Seig heil.

Yeungling Light
For those wanting to stay trim while drinking, Yuengling Light guarantees fewer calories by making you piss out the beer within 20 minutes of cracking the bottle. The hills of Western Pennsylvania are reserved for Rolling Rock and Philadelphia and the eastern part of the state go for Yuengling lager, leaving Yuengling Light for … Delaware? Perhaps the brew, with its acidic tang and not-quite-beer flavor, is tearing up Philly's gayborhood. Or frequenting gatherings of high school girls with Tri Delt aspirations doing some "experimenting." Either way, Yuengling Light is a frisky beverage. Like drinking a basket full of kittens who scratch your hands and then pee on them.

Rating: Diuretic

― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

when i moved to philly in 1988, i didn't actually drink yuengling that much. we drank old german, blatz, iron city, and meister brau. in 16 ouch cans. that stuff was the cheapest. later, we drank yuengling all the time.and i got fancier later on. working at the foodery in philly made me plenty fancy. and fat! and drunk! i was glad to be out of there and working in a wholesome korean deli. take things down a notch. that foodery was gonna kill me.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

aw, the foodery. were you there when the center city rapist lived above it?

Perhaps the brew, with its acidic tang and not-quite-beer flavor, is tearing up Philly's gayborhood. Or frequenting gatherings of high school girls with Tri Delt aspirations doing some "experimenting." Either way, Yuengling Light is a frisky beverage. Like drinking a basket full of kittens who scratch your hands and then pee on them.

finally, an adequate description of myself!

― mts (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Where are the Old Milwaukee fans? Old Milwaukee 16 ouncers were the drink of choice on the south side of Bethlehem until '91 or so. They're still budget brand in the soCal supermarket, but have developed an ugly vegetal taste that I don't recall being present when we were playing the southeast Pennsy rock scene.

It's possible my tastebuds have either mutated, died or shifted. But I think it not likely. The formulation of the fermentation changed.

― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

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