Hate the stuff myself, but am wondering if we Yanks are subjecting any other part of the world to evil cheese imperialism.
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:53 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)
― No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:59 (twenty-three years ago)
I thought it was called American cheese most of the time? I mean, every diner I've been to in the US called it that when they used it in omelettes or sandwiches.
― elisabeth k, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)
― fletrejet, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:04 (twenty-three years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:09 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:09 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sarah Mclusky (coco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:13 (twenty-three years ago)
An indigenous style of cheese would have to be cheese curds. Fermented chunks of cheese that have not been aged or pressed into wheels. They are eaten as fresh as you can get them and should not be refridgerated or kept. They squeak when you eat them; if they do not squeak, they are not fresh.
― No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:15 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:25 (twenty-three years ago)
Does Velveeta count as American Cheese? Processed and strange though it is, it seems better somehow.
― JuliaA (j_bdules), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:25 (twenty-three years ago)
― No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:25 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)
Don't say that too fast.
― Sam (chirombo), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)
BTW, I was born in Wisconsin, where cheese is considered a vegetable.
― No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:29 (twenty-three years ago)
It doesn't list an origin for cream cheese, but I can't imagine Creole cream cheese coming from anywhere but here.
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:30 (twenty-three years ago)
There must be more than one kind of Farmers Cheese? The kind I used to get was soft like cream cheese, usable in cheesecakes.
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:32 (twenty-three years ago)
I know there’s a really good joke there, but be damned if I can find it.
― No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:34 (twenty-three years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:35 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:44 (twenty-three years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:46 (twenty-three years ago)
American cheese (the processed stuff), by itself, is very bland with a horrible chemical/plastic off-flavour that is usually masked when combined with other food. The true role of american cheese is to add additonal grease to something when it is required.
― fletrejet, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:47 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:53 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:16 (twenty-three years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:20 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:21 (twenty-three years ago)
Colby's alright. We can be somewhat proud of Colby. And Monterey Jack! Cheese curds, on the other hand, are a bit silly.
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:45 (twenty-three years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:51 (twenty-three years ago)
Of course they are. But a trip to the Northwoods of Wisconsin wouldn’t be the same without a bag of Squeaky Frommage, eh?
A more Curdist analogy— eating cheese curds : eating cheese :: eating veal : eating cow.
― No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:53 (twenty-three years ago)
Oh, mais non! Cottage cheese is not yet fermented.
True Wisconsin Cheese Curds are but a step in the making of Colby cheese. Once the raw curd (cottage cheese) is fermented, the curds have plumped. The cheesemaker may press the curd into blocks or wheels for aging, or may sell the resultant fat curds fresh as cheese curds (sans whey).
― No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:04 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:24 (twenty-three years ago)
― No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:30 (twenty-three years ago)
Allegedly.
― No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:35 (twenty-three years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:36 (twenty-three years ago)
cupboard's bare, i'm so hungrylife ain't fair, give me some moneymacaroni maniac, a cheddar cheese heart attack
i love, i love, i love, i lovekraf dinner
etc
― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:41 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)
Im just glad for the poutine article, proof that I was not crazy for having poutine mean something else to me through out my childhood. You can by the traditional stuff in a massive tin but its pretty groddy unlesss you make it yourself.Its not the same in Harveys and McDonalds though St Hubert's isnt half bad.
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 19:38 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)
The cheese.com list is pretty good, but they left out Humboldt Fog, a fantastic goat cheese from northern California. So, so, so good. Oh god I've got to go out right now and get some.
― Benjamin, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:17 (twenty-three years ago)
When I was living in London I made lots of grilled cheese sandwiches (buttered bread, cheese slices in between said buttered bread, and fry it up in a frying pan). I did this a lot with provolone, muenster, cheddar and one day offered one to my Aussie and English flatmates. They looked at it in disgust and said "That isn't grilled cheese, that's a fried cheese sandwich. You have to put it in the oven and let the *elements* grill it." They were disgusted by me doing something so unhealthy (hello mayo on chips!) and had been wondering what the hell I had been making for months. So question is : Did momma teach me wrong. I'm sure this is the proper way to make a grilled cheese sandwich but I actually doubted myself. And what is wrong with making a cheese sandwich this way?
I mean one time when I was in Edinburgh, I was in a pub and asked if they could heat up my cheese sandwich and they warned me "The cheese is going to wrinkle if you do that." I am just so taken aback by these things. It's like those couple of times I did drugs haven't worn off yet and people are just too nice to tell me that I went mentally ill many years back.
― Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:22 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:25 (twenty-three years ago)
― Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:26 (twenty-three years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:28 (twenty-three years ago)
oops, swiss doesn't have the right amount of moisture for a grilled cheese.
― Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:32 (twenty-three years ago)
When I make grilled cheese sandwiches for the British nobody is stupid enough to call them fried cheese. Ed basically steps aside. I use all kinds of different bread depending on the level of plasticity required, but it could be anything from rye and black bread to Italian round loaves and sandwich white. I spread mayonnaise (and occasionally grain mustard) very thinly on the cheese side and then GRATE whichever harder cheese I want onto each slice, or do thin sliced brie. Soft Italian cheeses beg for tomato or prosciutto. Brie likes cooked mushrooms. Don't put additional ingredients on the frying cheese-up slices until you're about to flip, and shake a bit of pepper on. You need a very hot, solid nonstick pan and you need only butter the non-mayo side of the bread very lightly, either before laying down fillings or mixed with a very small amount of veg oil in pan to keep from burning the butter. Fry until you can see the cheese melt 1/3 of the way in, then flip one slice into the other. Flip whole sandwich every minute or so until you like the colour and you're satisfied it's all melted through. Then eat.
How To Tell If Your Landlord Is A Prole: minging sandwich toaster. Unless they are Italians who know how to make Roadkill sandwiches. Roadkill can be searched for in ILX so I don't repeat.
― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:11 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:15 (twenty-three years ago)
isn't this why you have a GRILL, to GRILL things on???
mind you, this so-called grilled cheese sarnie sounds like my kind of food, although cooking it in lard would surely improve the flavour no end, mmmmm, lard...
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:23 (twenty-three years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:09 (twenty-three years ago)
― Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:11 (twenty-three years ago)
― David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:23 (twenty-three years ago)
― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:46 (twenty-three years ago)
Cheese on toast on the other hand... now that is tasty. But you have to use a decent melty cheese, it's horrid with kraft singles.
― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:39 (twenty-three years ago)
Reveal your secret, kitchen yoda!
― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 01:14 (twenty-three years ago)
― minna (minna), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 03:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 05:41 (twenty-three years ago)
Don't bother asking him directly! Get Suzy and Kate to make him surrender it.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 05:49 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 07:01 (twenty-three years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 09:41 (twenty-three years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 12:45 (twenty-three years ago)
What's wrong with flattened toasted sandwiches anyway? Bacon, cheddar and mango chutney is particularly tasty in panino form. Begone, Foreman hataz, or he will grill yo' ass good, hear?
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 12:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 12:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 12:54 (twenty-three years ago)
If you go to 7-11 to shop for groceries, that in itself is a huge mistake. There's nothing there that hasn't been processed (or marked up fantastically).
I remembered watching a program several years ago on CBS' Sunday Morning program featuring a distinguished American cheese taster. Doing a quick google search on it brought me to http://www.cheesesociety.org/ which in turn linked me to the person I believe to be the individual profiled and the store he runs in NYC (David Zabar, www.zabar.com). What I roughly remember of the program had him denouncing the cheese of entire countries (Sweden, for instance) while praising the American Cheese equivalent of the microbrewed beer.
- Alan
― Alan Conceicao, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mandee, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:49 (twenty-three years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:51 (twenty-three years ago)
processed cheese slices
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:04 (twenty-three years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:35 (twenty-three years ago)
I also love a Colby/Monteray Jack blend for making Nachos!
― marianna, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)
― Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:15 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 17:16 (twenty-three years ago)
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 18:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)
um
― so sick of the fucking V8 commercials (surm), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 13:58 (fifteen years ago)
first of all that picture in the opening post is not american cheese, that is Kraft. real american cheese is very different and fucking amazing.
what is this real american cheese you speak of
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)
kraft singles = the single grossest food ever to exist on earth
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)
altho i've never had spam so i might be wrong
or vegemite
or manwich
― so sick of the fucking V8 commercials (surm), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)
kraft cheese, spam & vegemite = decent toasted sandwich
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)
holy hell
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)
no point wasting good quality foodstuff in a toasted sandwich imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)