UK Digibox: Classic or Dud

he loves it for the digital radio.

Good channels on Freeview:

BBC4
BBC3 (for nightly Liquid News, anyway)
BBC News 24 and Sky News
2 run of the mill wall to wall pop video channels
ITV2 for 24 hour I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here coverage and other things when that finishes
The History Channel (never actually watch this)
All the normal national radio channels in interference-free hifi sound.
BBC6 music radio for repeats of old sessions and concerts.

The other crap:
Some gameshow repeats channel, a Travel channel, and Shopping.

Also handy for speedy digital teletext and quick to view info on what's on now and next.

i have real grown up (sky) digital so get all these and several squillion others, but obv this is more expensive...

From the website:

What is Ftn?
The Ftn Channel is a frank and uncompromising television experience with an eclectic mix of gritty reality, celebrity gossip, full on talk, hard hitting drama and real life fly on the wall documentaries. Pushing the boundaries of entertainment, Ftn features some of the most original and exciting programmes from LivingTV, Bravo,Trouble and Challenge? and broadcasts from 6pm to 6am.

I have not noticed it being frank and uncompromising, but it certainly pushes the boundaries of entertainment.

and yes, buy it, it's good.

They'll be broadcasting E4, Bloomberg, Discovery, UK Gold and a few others on four 24-hour DTTV streams which were previously thought reserved for Freeview stuff. £20 for a decoder card (£10 if you buy online), £8 a month thereafter, no annual contract. Here's the rub - you need a set-top box which accepts a decoder card, i.e. an old OnDigital or ITV Digital contraption. All the people (me included) who've bought the new-style boxes since Freeview was launched in late 2002 are out of luck. Oh, or you can buy an even newer box, which *will* accept a TUTV card, which will be in the shops in the next few months.

In the short term, this means (presumably) lower bitrates for existing Freeview channels on the two multiplexes TUTV have bought space on (channel five for instance - no more near-DVD-quality CSI) and no chance of any more free-to-air channels on those streams. In the long term, who knows?

I may have had three

It's basically "Old Ladies? Let us Leech off you.. Look Jewellry... mmmmmmm ... !"

"Aaaah !! I'm on the TELLY!! I'm a Salesman!!!! on TELLY !!! HEEllllPPPPP!!!!"

QVC never seems to sell anything but women's things these days.

Connected it all up to find that it can't receive any of

BBC1
BBC2
BBC3
ITV1
ITV2
4
BBC News 24
ITC News
Sky News
Sky Sports News
CBBC
UKTV History
Sky Travel
Price-Drop TV (wtf?)

Now I have to see if I can return it. I have a feeling they will try & stick the blame on me for not checking coverage fully first ...

So you can get BBC4? That's odd.

I'd blame N. for encouraging you against Web advice. Good luck getting a refund, DM.

Sky uses a standard that it created all by itself and uses a bit rate of 4 Mbps Variable nominal.

Here's an explanation of how it works (this is how sky works at least DVB is very similar though):

Channels are arranged in bouquet of 8 channels. The 8 channels are supplied to a statistical multiplexer as 270Mbps SDI lines. The multiplexer dynamically assigns bandwidth to the channels, 32Mbits to assign in the case of sky. Each channel has a bandwidth floor and a nominal badwidth. The multiplexer decides where bandwidth should be allocated to get a picture quality of a certain level and dowcodes the SDI to the appropriate bandwidth. So channels with lots of movement get higher bandwidth and other channels get less. Some channels in a bouquet get priority and bouquets are normally organised with a couple of premium channels and a few lower value channels and maybe a data service.

As far as an objective assessment of quality BBC 1 looks better on freeview than it does on sky but the difference is not stark as the BBC not on the main sky satellite and I think they give it higher nominal bandwidth. The difference between bbc1 and one of the less premium channels is starker on sky. There are lots of other factors; the original footage has a lot to do with picture quality, but modern all digital 50 and 270Mbits footage obviously provides the best end product.

Blimey! How does this work.? I was thinking that there wasn't too much quick moving action on QVC, but have you seen how fast that steam cleaner blasts away grime??

Mooro, I am sorry to hear about your problems. Although it's on an entirley different technological level, I recently bought a set-top (AKA indoor) aerial on special offer and then took it back to exchange it for a daft 'all-in-one' remote control, which was slightly more expensive. I had the extra three pounds all ready to make up the difference, BUT THEY REFUNDED ME AS IF IT HAD BEEN FULL PRICE, so I was quids in there then. I reckon they might refund you full price, Mooro.

(see upthread)

"Ftn is available on FREEVIEW solely dedicated to general entertainment with a mix of talk, drama, comedy, reality and documentaries. Broadcasting from 6pm to 6am, Ftn features quality original programming from Living TV, Bravo, Trouble and Challenge."

Sounds like the TV equivalent of a tea bag.

Top Up TV Channel 60 11pm - 5am

Television X - The Fantasy Channel (Adult Only)

available for a separate monthly fee - terms and conditions apply.

(* Do people still say TV station?)

We get pretty good reception through our aerial but the lady at the DTG suggested it needs an upgrade cos it can't receive the digital frequencies - is this likely to be the case? Should we just give up now and beg Argos to take the box back?

Will Digiboxes work with a set-top aerial?

I would persevere a bit, all these things are a bastard to get working.

this morning i came into the room with the tv to find the digibox was on channel 60 when i could've sworn i left it on 70 last night before going to bed (to tape 'peel'). the tivo is capable of turning the digibox over but doesn't know about channel 60. poltergeists, obviously.

robster, don't you have 14 days grace with argos? i'd give it another go. try a signal booster.

In theory, but not always in practice. 'Oh, you've broken the seal!' etc.

I used to have a digibox that worked fine with a portable aerial so I could give it a go.

You peed on your set top box?

Actually I would quite like to get started on broadband - we've yet to establish quite what all the holes coming into our living room do.

You may need to upgrade your ariel, and the down cable from it. I spend some of last night fixing the 80s vintage ariel cable and we still only got the BBC bouquet. Go for the highest gain ariel you can get (£40 from homebase, Maplin etc.) Get double screened cable and use distrbution amplifiers whereever you split.

What can this possibly mean (when ITV News is still available on other platforms)?

What is the difference between an expensive Digibox and a cheap Digibox?

Maybe consult a WHICH? guide and your local library...?

you probably only need one scart socket. you can get multiple tuners now so you can watch one channel and record another, which probably needs two scart 'out'. having a scart 'in' would allow you to chain your dvd player / video / ps2 through the digibox, which is useful if you have more boxes than your tv has inputs.

Just the interactive question to go. I assume this has something to do with the notorious red button.

I think I like this one, but it's a bit pricey:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000TEV88/ref=wl_it_dp/026-1079273-2068421?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=IN2ICUPK4RHZR&colid=2B1C4OVP871PI

i haven't heard of non-interactive digiboxes. mine (an old nokia itvdigital box) is dog slow. fuck jenson button and his bbc adverts.

I think the Steady One is too stressed out to contribute.

what about a universal remote? might be cheaper. might be an idea to take advantage of argos' no-questions asked returns policy though. (i have a six-in-one but the digibox is the one thing that i don't use it for)

I would prefer to pay less too, but I have never heard of Humax or Digifusion and everything cheap I've ever bought has been shit.

There is a Philips one at £60-ish.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000A0D8HM/qid=1129887698/sr=1-30/ref=sr_1_0_30/026-1079273-2068421

I like the Topfield TF5800PVRt, which lets you record two channels while watching a third, records 90 hours or recordings, and perhaps just as importantly allows you to transfer those recordings over to your PC for archiving.

yeah me neither.

Anyone have any HD recorder box recommendations, or should I cut out the fannidangle and go for the route one cheapy thirty quid knock it long to the big lad approach? Well?

ED: I only have an indoor ariel but it's a booster and I think it will be OK (friends' experience in similar areas seems to bear this out). The 80gig Humax looks the one for me. Surely any more gigs than 80 is simply self indulgence? 80 seems a lot of gigs.

COLETTE: my pooter is not that clever and the whole upgrade-the-pooter project is something I am trying to ignore at the moment.

We have it to the side of the telly rather than on top; Ava likes to slap it about; the Sony remote is the one she likes to shove in her mouth too. Both have survived infant manhandling and droolage.

80 gigs? I reckon Carsmile can beat that. In a week.

How about this one, Captain Pegleg? £10 off.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00076WG8G/qid=1129899254/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_3_1/026-1079273-2068421

my 40G tivo was only 12 hours on Best quality (although Good (19 hours) was fine and medium was also watchable.). i upgraded two weeks ago to a 200G drive and it now records more than i can sensibly watch (i think there are 3 solid days worth of things i haven't got around to yet) but i don't have to worry about missing anything.

but, yes, 80G probably ok unless you're a square-eyed hermit like myself.

(Arsenic And Old Lace on this afternoon if you're stuck for something to watch btw)

my digibox was, for a long time, used almost exclusively to record Peel into the computer. worked like a treat but the radio 1 feed via freeview isn't the most reliable thing in the world - a decent fm or dab tuner would be better.

http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/products/pvr-8000t.asp

Koogy I don't like the thought of you worrying about missing television programmes, so I am pleased you have a vast pulsating hard drive now.

Ugh, decisions.

What's more Aamazon are kind enough to offer a few compatible leisure tips, I see:

Customers who shopped for this item also shopped for:

100 Naked Girls; Hardcover ~ Petter Hegre
Shaven Angels 2; Hardcover ~ Peter Lorenz
Natural Beauties; Hardcover ~ Eolake Stobblehouse
Stripped Naked; Hardcover ~ Peter Gorman
Sony PlayStation Portable (PSP) Handheld Console Value Pack (Includes Memory Stick, Battery Pack, Headphones, Demo Disc and More); Video Game ~ Sony

I can't decide. Not that I can afford any of them really.

Meanwhile...

Book Description
Traditionally there have been two kinds of nude art: fine art nudes and erotica. Both have their place in the world, but they are not the only options, not any more. The third kind of nude art, what photographer Stobblehouse calls "simple nudes". This kind of nude art is special in that the primary...

I did plug it into my telly. It was easy. My pictures come from Crystal Palace!

Last night I watched Winged Migration. Without even pressing the red button I got extra commentary from my mother-in-law.

I think it is true though, that you get what you pay for. Our remote control is unpleasant and feels as if it has come from a pound shop, and the menu screens could be nicer.

It is Digilogic. Remember the name!

It is confusing, as I am unsure whether my reception is good enough for it anyway. I had imagined that digital TV was a panacea.

Here is another question: is it better to have a DVD / VHS in one box, or as two separate items? More wires the second way.

Our "normal" reception is pretty bad (multi-Hansen effect), but the digibox works a treat (one Hansen, but speaking with greater clarity of vision and purpose than ever).

as for the DVD Video query, i'm of the opinion that it's almost always better to seperate items. if one bit get's buggered at least you're not losing 2 pieces of technology you need. also they are a bit gimmicky and tend to be impossible to fix.

xp

I've had an LG combined VHS/DVD thingy for 18 months, and I love it - and although it isn't mentioned in the instruction book, it lets you record from dvd to vhs if you want!

With analogue ghosting, you might have won 8-0.

"YES!

FREEVIEW covers your area for the postcode **** ***.

You should be able to use your existing rooftop aerial and wiring provided they are in good condition but you may need to get them checked to ensure good quality digital reception.

Your local electrical retailer should be able to arrange an aerial survey and aerial upgrade if you need one and advise you of any related charges."

I've been looking at some of the Hauppage ones but the write-ups on them are very varied.

Good info here:

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=119

Yesterday I pressed the red button hoping for all the goalmouth action, but all I got was a load of souped-up Ceefax reports.

PF, go on, take the plunge.

I am intrigued to see which way you go on Saturday afternoons, PJM - to BBCi's Score Interactive with Stubbsy or Sky Sports News with Stelling(sy). Or out, to the shops.

Incidentally, I think they must have those laptop gadgets. Or is that just my imagination getting the better of me?

I ask because I am having difficulty training my family to switch it off when they switch the telly off and I need to get just the right level of psycho dad-ness.

One piece of information that has been mentioned which is true is that there is little difference in power consumption etc between the on and standby modes of a Sky box. All standby does is switch off the video output, the box is otherwise completely functional.

Is a Sky box the same as a Freeview box, only with different channels?

But then I'm the sort of person who's convinced that all this talk of the oncoming "energy crisis" could be solved by everyone switching off their computers when they leave work at night.

(the tivo has real problems with grass, smoke, fire, tv static and especially water on lower qualities)

There's the Little People inside mine.

I switch my computer off at night and I have recently started going round switching off lights.

Do I really have to wait until March for a choice of two football matches?

grass, smoke, fire, tv static and especially water

I wish to make a poor quality joke out of this.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1573979,00.asp

Not the fridge.

I can't believe some people don't even turn their computers off.

I read years ago that modern computers have very low power consumption, so don't feel too guilty about leaving it on. Is that correct?

i fear that if i switch off my tv or vcr at the mains, they will forget all their presets. is that insane?

If that is not true, though, then I think Alba is being rather impatient. Surely you can switch it on and use it a minute later, and save power, rather than leave it on the whole time. But again, what do I know? When I try to put my computer on standby it basically shuts down - it returns to life frozen and unusable, and must be, I think, Reset.

Why a laptop computer is not using power, I don't know. But again - what do I know?

I have erased Community TV and Teachers TV and Bloomberg. Perhaps I am becoming reckless. I am tempted to erase the pop video channels too.

I think the VCR will forget the time if you switch it off at the plug.

i unplug it, it uses battery power while asleep.

Back in the days when I had an attention span.

ITV3 has been superceded in our affections by More4 and ITV4 (all yr ITC/RAI needs).

They're talking about debut hat-tricks on Sky Sports News. I bet they don't mention Tony Cottee OR if they mention Ian St John they neglect to point out that Everton beat Liverpool 4-3 in that match.

Hang on, I have email, they have email...

I have taken to watching National Geographic's rubbish list programmes (Top 10 "when bears fall out of trees onto trampolines", that sort of thing - seriously, the other night I watched a bear fall out of a tree onto a trampoline. It bounced off the trampoline and fell head first onto the ground. Then they followed it with some people who nearly drowned trying to rescue a cow off a cliff. Do you even get National Geographic on Digibox?

I still haven't watched anything on ITV4. Too many channels!

An old-fashioned valve amplifier would definitely last longer if it was kept switched on all the time - valves are really just a sophisticated sort of lightbulb, and valve failure nearly always occurs at switch-on.

Middling? Vehicle?

It's a terrific picture!

I'm now watching a Snow show on one of the normal channels about land ownership. Pam is getting quite angry.

(I shamefully have left my CD player, phono pre-amp, line-level pre-amp, and monoblocs switched on for weeks at a time. The CD player has a class A output stage so it's probably sucking power from the wall like nobody's business 24 hours a day. It's the only concession to audiophile lore I make thesedays. I accept I'm also killing the planet).

Seeing as we are picking on your writing, you also made 'thesedays' into one word. Is that a new usage, like Morrissey's 'Everyday' meaning ... 'every day'?

I suppose I can meet you halfway on Quick Change.

The MOD owns 600,000 acres of land in the UK - cor! The mods own only a few promenades.

Another parallel is 'Inbetween Days', where I am not sure the first word is quite a proper word.

It is only now that I understand what you meant by 'Snow show'.

The rockers, I suppose, own only a red guitar, three chords and the truth?

See http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/terrestrial/mux/

If you can't get BBC3 (Mux1), you probably can't get BBC1, BBC2 or News 24 either?

I call serial commas, "the Oxford Comma". Sounds much posher.

This morning: red button goals galore action from the likes of EVERTON.

In the near future:

Friday 20 January - 1900-2030 GMT, BBC THREE
Group A: Egypt v Libya

Saturday 21 January - 1900-2110 GMT, BBC THREE
Group A: Morocco v Ivory Coast
Group B: Cameroon v Angola
Group B: Togo v DR Congo

Sunday 22 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group C: Tunisia v Zambia
Group C: South Africa v Guinea

Monday 23 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group D: Nigeria v Ghana
Group D: Zimbabwe v Senegal

Tuesday 24 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group A: Libya v Ivory Coast
Group A: Egypt v Morocco

Wednesday 25 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group B: Angola v DR Congo
Group B: Cameroon v Togo

Thursday 26 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group C: Zambia v Guinea
Group C: Tunisia v South Africa

Friday 27 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group D: Ghana v Senegal
Group D: Nigeria v Zimbabwe

Saturday 28 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group A: Egypt v Ivory Coast
Group A: Libya v Morocco

Sunday 29 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group B: Angola v Togo
Group B: Cameroon v DR Congo

Monday 30 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group C: Tunisia v Guinea
Group C: Zambia v South Africa

Tuesday 31 January - 1900-2100 GMT, BBC THREE
Group D: Nigeria v Senegal
Group D: Ghana v Zimbabwe

R.W. Burchfield - The New Fowler's Modern English Usage.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4614598.stm

"The guy who owns it really should do the lottery because the chances of sending out a signal from a digibox and sending out precisely and exactly on a major emergency channel are far more than 14 million to one."

Today:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4712122.stm

SO JUST WHAT ARE THE ODDS?

It's ironic that this thread has turned into a bit of an S.O.S. list.

More digibox excitement: the other day I put it on top of the DVD player, and when I tried to play a DVD it wouldn't work, just kept saying "CLOSE" and flickering about. Took DVD back to library as "damaged". Got replacement DVD. Also refused to work. Tried DVD that is personal property and known to work. Would not work. Moved digibox. All was sweetness and light again.
That was a bit longwinded. To sum up:

a) I am a joey.

b) My digibox lacks some kind of "shielding".

c) funny old world.

I want one of those Humax recording things.

I wonder if ITV Digital boxes are collectors' items?

3-way at Argos sounds absolutely delightful. Brings a whole new meaninglessness to "please go to your collection point".

-- PJ Miller (pjmiller6...), January 4th, 2007.

Directly after last night's opening episode of gritty kidnap drama FIVE DAYS, a disembodied voice suggested that I "set [my] recorder" to make sure I managed to catch "all the episodes".

Did anyone else hear this, or was it a subliminal message?

It's just my impression, because I don't actually know, but isn't the US pretty far behind when it comes to digital broadcasting in general? Clinton signed a bill that said all transmissions had to be digital by a certain year (I think it was 2007) but Americans have never even heard of digital radio, much less TV.

The other thing that occurs to me is that maybe that's a good thing! Digital television seems like the final nail in the coffin of "the public airwaves", i.e. the idea that no-one can own the magnetic fields of Earth, and no-one can own all the air one must vibrate in order to broadcast radio and television signals. Because governments are "auctioning" the spectrum off. Am I misled in the thought that this is a very different concept from what has heretofore prevailed, i.e. that broadcasters used the frequency spectrum at the public's pleasure?

a) your aerial is crap or badly aligned
b) it is in the shadow of something
c) Signal strength is poor till analogue switchoff occurs (although this is not much of a problem in London, compare to the other two).

Government are auctioning licences rather than selling off spectrum, but it does amount to the same thing. Multiplexing is what is centralising the airwaves. Bouquets of channels need to be broadcast from the same place rather than in a distributed fashion so there are gate keepers other than the government and TV-Channels in the mix.

I also worry that because digital broadcasting has been taken up in a climate where the spectrum has been auctioned, rather than... what, borrowed? - then there will bo no obligation whatsoever to provide public service programming, i.e. educational programming, programing for kids, etc. And government requirements, both in the US and the UK, for broadcasters to permanently switch off their analogue transmitters forever, seem like a government enforcement of this privatization (not to mention an enforcement to buy expensive new kit).

indeed the bbc was explicitly made into a govt propaganda outlet during the general strike, and then during ww2.

there was a huge row re. coal mines being under private property. iirc the landowners got paid.

the biggest constitutional upheaval since 1688 (1910-14) ended in a weird kind of stalemate (in which the authority of parliament had to be maintained *against* the public (women, unions).

Does reception affect things like bitrate? I didn't know it worked like that - I thought you either got the picture quality as broadcast or you got break-up. I thought what Tracer was complaining about was things like 1980s drama serials on ITV2 looking like they've been converted on someone's laptop in ten minutes by some freeware.

I get more drop-outs on less premium AKA shit channels. Is that for the same reason, or am I doolally?

Have had no drop-outs so far, except when I thought the sound was out on Big Brother, having not realized that's just the way the show is.

That is artefacting and has to do with the channel purchasing a paltry amount of bitrate.

Which channel was it?

ha, i spent last night doing exactly that. (although was bbc2 comedy from 1995)(and it was taking about 14 minutes per half hour)

> Bitrate is different. The less premium channels run at lower bitrates and are prone to artefacting.

this is what i thought tracer meant upthread - artefacting / pixelation.

oddly the worst picture i've seen is on csi on five via analogue - facial shadows were a lot darker than they should've been - like they'd been digitised on a 16 colour amiga or something. without dithering.

sounds like a dodgy scart connection to me.

TV was better at 405 lines. There must be a sloganed T-shirt I can get to that effect.

(Give me a break - 3 hours of sleep a night for the last six nights!)

xpost - pixellisationing up is so hard to do.

ebay. they stopped making new ones about two years after they started (which is a pity because it's a great bit of kit). other (inferior) boxes that do the same thing (after a fashion) are available... the humax seems popular.

(the one thing that does bug me with the tivo is the american use of channel numbers. bbc is 21 for instance. which is fine and you get used to it quite quickly because the names are there next to the numbers. but then the digital channels come along and are also numbered in the same range as the terrestrial channels so instead of bbc1, itv1, bbc2 etc being adjacent they are now interleaved with filum4 and fiveUS and the like. fiddly.)

and they're finally giving her an Oscar after decades of neglect.

just shoved a hoooge disk in it because 40 hours wasn't enough. it's open enough so that you can do that. i think later models and all the imposters are locked down tightly so you have to go the official upgrade route. or don't bother.

all the major manufacturers do them now, the sony thing won awards in christmas "What Hifi (And Surround Sound System And Half A Dozen Other Categories)" thing. can get them with dvd burners and hard disks and stuff but they tend to be expensive (tivo was £400 when i bought, £200 a year later, £99 for one weekend in some obscure chain about a year after that that was getting rid of theirs)(that said, first nicam video recorder i bought was £399 so...).

i wouldn't've thought volume would affect bitrate. besides, audio bitrate and video bitrate tend to be independant. the compression trick is the reason mute buttons were invented. if they try and grab my attention that way they get muted out. see also: flashing banner ads and adblock

Audio compression: when audio signal peaks are brought below a certain level to prevent clipping in the audio signal when it is digitised or otherwise transmitted. This is usually accompanied by some gain normalisation to make sure that the sound power level is brought back up to what it was before compression. Heavy compression and normalisation is what makes the adverts sound louder

Compressing the audio: Using a codec, (AC3 and MP2 are the most common for TV) to reduce the bitrate of the audio signal.

Video Legalising, brinigin the video signal to within the parameters of the tranmission system, i.e. making sure that the Luminance, Chrominance and Variage of the signal all fall within specified limits, in a modern all digital workflow this is normally done at the editing stage.

Video Compression: Using a codec (MPEG-2) to reduce the bitrate of the video signal.

Artefacting: blockyness, blotchiness brought on by over compression of the video signal or inexpertly applied compression. In general older poorer video sources compress poorly and show more digital artefacts because they don't have the sharp focus and bright tones footage of modern digital material and because of existing analogue artefacts You can also get artefact with high motion video at low bitrates.

Blocking or Pixilation: If the MPEG-2 transport stream is interrupted then data integrity will break down. The picture is encode by block of pixels, if it can maintain the picture by holding a block for a few frames then the system will try to do this in an effort to keep something on screen whilst this system tries to recapture the stream. this causes squares on the screen to appear to freeze, go black or change to unexpected colours.

"Don't forget to set your *digital* recorder so that you catch every episode."

I half expect them to say "don't forget to set your Humax PVR 500..." tonight.

Sometimes the picture goes away but the subtitles stay. What's all that about?

part 2 (universally judged inferior i think) is on film4 on saturday:

http://www.channel4.com/film/reviews/film.jsp?id=132014

in related news (kinda), ftn is showing Takeshi's Castle starting in a week or two. first time on freeview.

Yeah, cos it's supposed to be one better, innit? That's the point.

15:35 Relocation, Relocation
16:40 Relocation, Relocation
17:45 Relocation, Relocation
18:50 Snowmail
18:55 Relocation, Relocation
20:00 Relocation, Relocation
21:00 Inside Waco
23:05 GBH
00:40 Relocation, Relocation