Twin Peaks - Classic or Dud?

it went all soap opera shite in the second series, though, just about pulling back at the end.

do you actually not know who killed Laura than? HA HA HA HA HA.

Actually if I'd watched it as broadcast I'd have loved the LP mystery but somehow watching it all in one go (over the course of about a fortnight) I wasn't as gripped by that strand.

Best ending to a series ever!

i cannot get enough of the dwarf that dancing, clicking his fingers and speaking backwards in Agent Cooper's dreams...

And the film sucked.

Favorite random bit -- the cops in the diner in the Diane Keaton-directed episode turning as one and saying "Hi Ted!" or whatever it was.

chester - yes, it is v. importantto watch te pilot as everyhting feeds from that one. i'd rent it on tape and watch it first. (i'm assuming it is available on tape) um, robin i think that only applies to the european version, the US one is a direct lead into the show.

i don't agree that the second series is any worse-by the time you get to it you are so hooked on all the charcters and so on that every second of it is so enjoyable
and the last epiode terrified me to the very core of my being...(which normally i wouldn't like,but its just so good...)

isn't there an extended bit in the 2nd series where the main plot has essentially been resolved but the series still lurches on on boring autopilot, only to suddenly pick up in that episode where people's hands start shaking?

Repeated viewings have made the show's failings really glaring, almost unbearable, to me.

When I was 13 I was mad at Lynch for rupturing the continuity of the series with the final episode even as I was amazed by how much more effective it was than most of the 2nd season. Now I'm just glad he decided to end on a high note (and what a high note--it's the best 45 minutes of TV I know), continuity of plot and tone be damned.

what is included in the DVD special edition??

search: laura palmers diary, agent coopers book, the twin peaks town guide book, & the magazine; "wrapped in plastic"

also search: the episode of Northern Exposure that is a direct paradoy of TP

*damn good coffee & hot!

Great characters, amazingly creative blend of surreal & soap-opera-style plot interweavings, absurdly dream-like cinematography all throughout, with some of the most haunting images I've ever seen (and prob'ly ever will see) on a television show. Plus Angelo Badalamenti = FARKING GAWD...one of the most perfectest scores of anything ever.

and lets not forget a certain X-File person in drag!

also kudos to Lynch for totally marginalizing Heather Graham in the final episode.

You're all just terribly fascinated by this, I know.

P.S. I have the entire series on NTSC VHS (not dubbed but the actual videos that were sold). Is anyone interested in purchasing this from me? Email me if so.

I think Lynch needs a better entertainment lawyer with him next time he signs a contract. But then again he is a very unique case: an "art" director who has occasionally made contract with the mass audience, and whose films--while not costing nearly as much as any summer blockbuster--aren't particularly cheap to produce, either.

Before the series was sold to ABC in America--and long before the series was sold to Europe at all (in fact I'm not even sure when and if the series was broadcast on European TV at all)--WB sold a revised version of the pilot to the European market, which would play like a self-contained TV movie. (There was even some talk, I believe, about opening it theatrically.) That's what you get on the NTSC VHS.

Funny: I remember being excited when the VHS came out, because for once I could see the "alternate" version of the pilot.

my favorite characters are donna's younger sisters (harriet, SIGH) and van dyke parks as the lawyer (his speaking voice/accent is identical to my grandfathers').

Twin Peaks - Classic or Dud?

H I'm in Olympia WA USA which for a film-obsessed college town has crap video stores.

I find I'm the opposite Amateurist: I'm much more enthusiastic about TV shows when I can watch them all in a big clump. I never cared much for Angel - despite being a rabid Buffy mentalist - until the DVDs came out and I spent the better part of 5 or 6 days watching them straight through. I think it's the immersion, like you get with a novel or something.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6302814596.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

The bootleg DVD of the "real" pilot looks like this:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005V54S.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Oh. And I can't stand the sound of hooting owls, either.

Great. Now I've creeped myself out. I need to watch "Winnie the Pooh" or "The Muppet Movie" before I go to sleep.

ok-right, thanks. i dont know what i was thinking earlier, ive seen this a few times.

FITE!

Soundtracks are even more classic (including the first Julee Cruise album here.)

That said, i've never really felt the urge to watch it again. Though i'd line up to see watch Lynch/Frost 'finish' the story, should that ever happen. Hell, i'd throw lottery winnings at it.

It's maybe 15 seconds long.

Ask me why I'm whittling.

completely fucking classic.

i also missed out on this the first time around---not merely because i was too young (would've been 11 when it was on), but moreso because i didn't really have control over the TV or radio in my house at the time, apart from watching cartoons on Saturday mornings. my mom was vastly overprotective and we only had the one TV---plus, IIRC, she was too busy watching Beauty and the Beast at the time (and in retrospect, the Ron Perlman factor amuses me---should show her La Cité des enfants perdus sometime and watch her squirm...XD). plus, she'd heard about *gasp* incest being involved, and so she immediately condemned it as Something We Should Never See.

skip forward quite some time, after i'd found i really liked Lynch's work. was in first year of college, and had smartly arranged my classes so that i only actually had class to go to three days a week---and never before noon. :) not having a job and having an excess of free time, i spent a lot of time renting videos---and it was in this time that Twin Peaks was watched in its entirety. i'd learned about the differences in the broadcast pilot and the European version beforehand, so i knew when to stop it---later on, i went back and watched the alternate ending just to have seen it (and in fact, we've got this on laserdisc at home).

while the second season is problematic in many respects, the series as a whole is rather brilliant---i think the main problem with it was ABC's insistence that Laura Palmer's murder be resolved. i think that's really what killed it, what took it away from what it could have been. mind, what happened was still fairly great, but there was so much more possibility where the Frost/Lynch original intentions were concerned. Fire Walk With Me, i also like a lot. i know a lot of people don't, but it worked fairly well for me. for anyone in the US who gets the Independent Film Channel, they absolutely love to run it at odd hours, and/or occasionally back-to-back with Lynch's daughter's film Boxing Helena.

Angelo Badalamenti = genius. adore, adore, adore. FWIW, my boyfriend has also got Industrial Symphony No.1 on LD. the US LDs of the TV series weren't so great, but the Japanese ones---oooh. there's extra stuff, too. there were all sorts of tours and weird pop cultural artifacts surrounding TP that came out of Japanese fandom. :) i unfortunately don't have these LDs myself, but someday i'd like to---along with the Millennium boxes put out in Japan. (IMHO, Millennium was a far better show than The X-Files ever was, up till the third season when it got ruined by introduction of Emma Hollis---but i've digressed horribly. XD)

also of note is the Agent Cooper diaries on audiotape that were put out. it's the only bit of merch (apart from the series itself) that i ever wanted, and it was my first-ever eBay purchase. that tape is hilarious.

I'm working-up the stomach to watch the series again - I think. But I am still going to skip certain parts. But they'll still be in my memory banks, somewhere, and pop-up and scare the crap out of me in the middle of the night.

And yes TP is still stone cold CLASSIC

AS mentioned on another thread, we followed up the viewing of the first 7 episodes with a much-needed cherry pie run. And, sadly, we did not listen to Warrant on the way, Chris V.

http://flavorwire.com/532389/david-lynch-shooting-twin-peaks-as-one-long-movie-and-more-from-showtimes-tca-panel

http://media.giphy.com/media/yidUzlJEo5043CmC0o/giphy.gif

hopefully this means that each episode will end in the middle of a sentence and resume on the next syllable during the next one

:D

but i'm guessing they won't do it that way because they lack COURAGE

assorted Brooklynites freaking out

http://gothamist.com/2015/08/17/twin_peaks_2.php

that place is a block or two up the hill from my first NY apartment.

why would he need to come to NYC to find a banquet hall?

Sherilyn Fenn also freaked out on Twitter a couple of days ago that they apparently still haven't signed any of the old cast except Kyle.

That's so weird

I'm fairly sure she and most if not all of the actors in the save twin peaks video will be back

But also like... Do these ppl not have telephones?

nobody had a cell in 92, no one has returned Sherilyn Fenn's calls since gilmore girls

apparently lynch was angry with the writers for having agent cooper remove the suit. he was never supposed to be seen in anything but a suit.

Having just watched it, we see Cooper in a tank top and boxers in the second episode.

That's different

i still want to know why TP2.0 is shooting in NYC

Well now, I'm not gonna talk about shooting. In fact, we're not gonna talk about shooting at all, we're gonna keep it out of this.

xp lots of pie and coffee?

that stage with curtains

what Twin Peaks actor appears in Brando's One-Eyed Jacks? (not difficult)

the old mayor?

tsk tsk, no

This guy is in the opening scene robbing a bank with Brando and Karl Malden, and is killed shortly after.

Hank Worden aka senor droolcup

also in the Searchers etc

I'd call him the Shakey Waiter.

Was Missouri Breaks the one with a cameo by a much younger Evolution of the Arm?

I'd call him the Shakey Waiter.

I think we're all surprised that Morbs doesn't identify more with Albert Rosenfeld.

Lol I've seen (even own iirc) One-Eyed Jacks and was thinking Jack Nance. Kinda wish he'd played a small role in everything

wot, sic? love Albert

"say please"

I may have used 'Look, it's trying to think' at work a time or two.

xp señor droolcup is albert’s epithet for the waiter

wow, sheriff truman sure does yell a lot late in S2

i'm beginning to understood why he declined to come back for The Return

Classic, but S2, whew, I had to force myself on that one.

i'm beginning to understood why he declined to come back for The Return

― Karl Malone, Monday, November 12, 2018 5:32 PM (one hour ago

Not sure what you mean. I think The Return was one of the greatest things I've ever seen. His not being there was a disappointment for me (although pretty much made up for by Robert Forster)

i was just being silly, i loooooove the return!

i just meant that truman's character takes a nosedive in the second half of S2 (like many other character arcs), and it really hits a low point when he yells at the top of his lungs 4 separate times across two episodes. so my hilarious joke was that he didn't come back for the return because he was afraid of what lynch would do to his character

(yes, i know the story about what happened during the last half of S2 and why it went haywire, and yes, i know that Michael Ontkean didn't come back because he's pretty much retired from acting, not because he has something against twin peaks or is mad about his character temporarily getting bad during S2)

ok lol, have to watch S1/S2 again

it's weird, i swear i had seen all of S2 once before, a long time ago, but as i'm watching i've realized i must have completely skipped over several episodes. when billy zane showed up in a scene with his sweater tucked in, it was brand new to me, and i KNOW i wouldn't have forgotten that

i have never forgotten a scene of this show with billy zane in it. seared into my mind. the private plane. the fireplace. all of them

Remember when Pete just hung out in his truck all night so Audrey would have a ride home after her all-night lovemaking sesh, remember that

um, pete wasn't just hanging out in his truck, snapping his fingers and whatnot. he was working on his GAME

https://i.imgur.com/tV2HK79.jpg

in case you haven't heard of it, there's a box in the background that states the name of the game

you see, if pete wasn't a secret chess master, than they wouldn't be able to trap windom earle using the ooool' stalemate strategy

then!

http://twinpeaks.popapostle.com/images/episodes/Double-Play/newspaper-article.jpg

the actual text of that article is amazing

wow

Hot new track from Kent Swaip just dropped, called 'Pink Sweat'

Stank wipe?
(We spank it)
Weak pints?
(We spank it)
Ape twinks?
(We spank it)
Tweak nips?
(We spank it)

Pink sweat, we tap sink
Pink sweat, we spat ink
Pink sweat, past I knew
Pink sweat, tank I spew