― william s. burroughs, Thursday, 10 July 2003 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)
Now you've never actually spoken with a woman, is this correct?
― Chris P (Chris P), Thursday, 10 July 2003 21:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― MrN (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 10 July 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 10 July 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)
me too!!
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Elmo Oxygen (elmo oxygen), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 10 July 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Thursday, 10 July 2003 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― black plastic (black plastic), Friday, 11 July 2003 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 11 July 2003 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)
Dud = having to stifle your instinct to spot the drugged-up runaways. You catch yourself doing that, it's time to go bowling or something.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 11 July 2003 01:37 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.shockwave.com/sw/content/gutterball
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 11 July 2003 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― dyson (dyson), Friday, 11 July 2003 01:57 (twenty-two years ago)
This sounds as if Tolkien is somehow involved.
― j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:00 (twenty-two years ago)
1. Me
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:04 (twenty-two years ago)
It's easier to talk about what I don't like, because I see a lot more of that while scouring the web for pics and vids. I don't like cheerleaders or Catholic schoolgirls. I don't like faux-lesbian porn, with the high heels on and all that, although real lesbian porn can be quite captivating. I don't like fake tits, not one little bit. I don't like make-up, except for the standard lights and cameras kind that the guys wear too. I don't like blondes. I like them in real life just fine -- my girlfriend's a blonde -- but in porn they always seem to be wearing too much makeup, and an expression either of extremely contrived passion or high-school play enthusiasm. I don't like fat old guys. I don't like Bang Bus gorilla shit where the point seems to be abuse. I don't under any circumstances like a man saying, "Yeah, you like that don't you, you dirty little whore." Call me Mr. Empathy.
I like girls that seem sweet but not sickly sweet. I prefer brunettes because they more often get the girl-next-door treatment, even when they're strikingly beautiful. I like a girl who looks approachable and, well, womanly, rather than some demon sex goddess or mistress. I am fascinated by the female orgasm -- it's just as appropriate an ending to a scene as a male orgasm, in my book. I dig those orgasm machine thingies that they straddle. I'm not so big on the recent trend toward "fucking machines," these locomotive-like contraptions with big scary spinning wheels and steel rods that exist to do nothing but make noise and thrust a dildo in and out of a woman who has had to assume some unnatural position just to receive the thing. It all smacks of some robot geek fantasy -- "I will build the perfect penis robot! And then, I will take over the world!" Too much work for something so simple. I digress.
A word on cumshots: they're overused and overdone. I like them as punctuation, and it's good to know at least someone is genuinely getting off, but I recoil in horror at a woman drinking sperm from a champagne glass. Semen is not an intrinsically interesting substance. With semen, it's all about the process.
And as for body types, I'm not an ass man or a breast man or anything so fetishistic. I like large breasts, sure, but they're not for every woman, and many women wear small ones just as well. Maybe it's the waist-hip ratio thing, or maybe it's just my personal tastes, but some women come together beautifully regardless of the size of one body part or another, and some women do not. Under the right circumstances, a woman with small breasts who still has her pants on can get me off three times in one day.
That said, though, I do like vaginas. Like, a lot. I'm real big on vaginas. Trimmed and coiffed, preferably -- maintenance is important. I don't like pictures of a woman holding it open -- I can find the hole just fine, thanks. But a shapely symmetrical set of labia is just so damn tasty looking.
I'll stop now.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― D@n I., Friday, 11 July 2003 03:42 (twenty-two years ago)
i sadly like soft focus sub penthouse fantasy.
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― D@n I., Friday, 11 July 2003 03:43 (twenty-two years ago)
I like stuff in books. Gravity's Rainbow and Mulligan Stew have the most ridiculous sex scenes ever, completely goofy stupid stuff, meta-porn if you will--and I will, because damned if they don't do the trick after all these years.
― Neudonym, Friday, 11 July 2003 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)
But I actually prefer written porn to most other forms - photographs don't seem to get much out of me, except for comments about poses and lighting and such (everyone's a critic). Movies are okay, if I am already in the mood - if not then they don't hold my attention. But give me a decent book of raunch and I am off in lala land, no matter what my mood was before I started reading.
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)
i can only boggle as to what the pron equivalents of Jandek and Whitehouse and the Field Mice are
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:51 (twenty-two years ago)
In visual porn, male/male, with both of them cute and twinkish. Realistic enthusiasm. I'd just as soon not focus on body fluids, and please, please, take off your damn socks.
The funniest thing I've seen in a porno: boys doing it in a garage or something spraypainted with graffiti advertising 4 Non Blondes.
― Layna (Layna Andersen), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)
I guess that I should mention the leather stuff, too - some of it I like, some of it I don't - I am a sadist but with limits. Oddly, though, S/m porn isn't sexually arousing for me - it's more of a power-rush situation than "Ooohhh baby, let's go get raunchy" (er, and I don't think I've ever utter that line except as a joke) thing.
But yes - normal, average people - scars and sags and wrinkles - it's exciting to think that we're all sexual beings, at some level, and that we're all seeking out ways of expressing just that. Of course, I am noticing some voyeuristic tendencies within myself, too, so I've no idea where the turn-on zone will move to from here. (Fluid sexuality = never say never.)
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 11 July 2003 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 11 July 2003 04:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 11 July 2003 04:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 11 July 2003 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 11 July 2003 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 11 July 2003 04:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 11 July 2003 04:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 11 July 2003 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Friday, 11 July 2003 06:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 11 July 2003 06:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 11 July 2003 06:39 (twenty-two years ago)
and after discovering downloadable videos i'm not that interested in photos, thoughi guess their the best option for those poor souls who still have dialup connections.
― william s. burroughs, Friday, 11 July 2003 06:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 11 July 2003 07:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― dyson (dyson), Friday, 11 July 2003 07:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 11 July 2003 07:42 (twenty-two years ago)
as far as my own tastes go...hmmm. I don't rule out any non-extremist-for-extremism's-sake activity out of hand, but I pretty much actively dislike facials as a rule, though it can be nice watching a man come on other body parts. not often, though--come shots are just punctuation most of the time, and about as interesting as punctuation tends to be in writing. girl-on-girl action is generally pretty unconvincing; I don't think I've ever seen more than a few minutes of male-male so I have no real opinion of it. a convincing female orgasm is the greatest thing in the world ever. I like a lot of "types"--short haired brunettes and redheads and black women especially. (never been so much into Asian women or Latinas but obviously exceptions can be made.) blondes with a Midwestern girl-next-door vibe get me every time as well.
favored breast size for me generally tops out at medium-large though exceptions can be made if they're natural (fakes = bleh + sad). age is similarly flexible--I have a dual weakness for women who appear a bit older and who appear very young. shapewise, I'm definitely an ass man, though if a woman has nothing but (natural) breasts--and looks GREAT--I'm not going to argue. I dislike the runway patch while acknowledging its usefulness, and totally hate wiry little quarter-inch strips. give me a full (or neatly trimmed) bush or a completely shaved pussy every single time, please.
the only makeup that should be worn is lipstick, though that's sort of a rule that carries over into real life as well. men I'm not as worried about, though the better they look the better I'm going to like watching women fuck them. I'm with Kenan on the disliking "dirty little whore" type stuff, probably because I haven't seen anything where it was said with any real conviction. that kind of talk can be very hot, but I have yet to see it be so in any porn.
the robot-fantasy fucking machines can be really exciting in a very compulsive way for the duration it takes to watch and get off on the porn but viewed in a more sexually sober light can just seem really grotesque. extreme camera angles aren't inherently interesting; one thing I like about '70s porn is that the close-ups are a bit fuzzy-focused, which is more erotic and less medical-manual-ready. and yes, enthusiasm is key.
threesomes can be a real turnon, particularly two men/one woman. used to be I preferred two women/one man so maybe I'm just getting old and jaded. ditto oral sex--watched pussy eating almost exclusively at one point; now I want to see women sucking cock, having their mouths fucked, etc., often the more awkward the position the better. I do hope this doesn't mean there's something wrong with me.
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 11 July 2003 07:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 11 July 2003 07:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 11 July 2003 07:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 11 July 2003 07:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 11 July 2003 07:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― masta ace, Friday, 11 July 2003 08:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― kate (kate), Friday, 11 July 2003 08:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 11 July 2003 09:16 (twenty-two years ago)
that said ILX is way more fun than internet pron.
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 11 July 2003 09:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 11 July 2003 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Friday, 11 July 2003 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 11 July 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― NA. (Nick A.), Friday, 11 July 2003 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)
he can't go past the buttbongs bit
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 11 July 2003 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Friday, 11 July 2003 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)
change "lipstick" to "corpsepaint" and I think you're onto something
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 11 July 2003 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 11 July 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 11 July 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)
I have a bad case of objectifying the skinny rawk boys, like that one in the Strokes or whatever. I might as well be a dirty old man looking at schoolgirls.
― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Friday, 11 July 2003 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)
Anyway, I like group stuff, as you will probably know. MMF, FFM, foursomes, etc. The women are of course almost always bi in these things, which is great, but the men very rarely are (that's a specialist interest, it seems). I don't like anything with any abusive content, verbal or physical, unless it is presented as game playing and appears fun, which I do like - I find bondage particularly appealing, when done in this spirit. I don't have a very specific physical type - I've not seen so many women in most porn that I find unattractive, though the men are much better looking in gay porn. The male standards have risen in most classy mainline hardcore porn, though. I like seeing oral particularly, but a bit of variety and imagination is the thing that pleases me most.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 11 July 2003 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)
Acc. to Tristan Taormino, bi porn is a real taboo zone in the porn industry, from both sides of the fence. Str8 and gay (men) have their thing but never the twain should meet.
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Friday, 11 July 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 11 July 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Scaredy Cat, Friday, 11 July 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 11 July 2003 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Friday, 11 July 2003 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 11 July 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)
damn right!
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 11 July 2003 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Leee (Leee), Friday, 11 July 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 11 July 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 11 July 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― sean g, Friday, 11 July 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 11 July 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 11 July 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)
nichole was 'off her tits' when she posted this BTW.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 12 July 2003 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Douglas (Douglas), Saturday, 12 July 2003 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 12 July 2003 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― JuliaA (j_bdules), Saturday, 12 July 2003 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Saturday, 12 July 2003 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 12 July 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 12 July 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 12 July 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Saturday, 12 July 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― dyson (dyson), Saturday, 12 July 2003 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― That Girl (thatgirl), Saturday, 12 July 2003 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)
We have still not got around to watching it yet though.
I would like to mention though that I do like cheerleaders and catholic schoolgirls. I have a real actual authentic games skirt I keep meaning to wear out somewhere but note this will probably not be to a FAP so STEADY ON (your vomit).
I am not telling further details without being in a pub.
― Sarah (starry), Saturday, 12 July 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dada, Saturday, 12 July 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 12 July 2003 23:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― duane, Sunday, 13 July 2003 04:29 (twenty-two years ago)
Shh! No, no! You'll blow my cover!
Just for that, I'm going to call you "sweet tits" from now on.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 13 July 2003 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)
Said boyfriend showed me a passage from a novel called Undone by Michael Kimball in which there is a ridiculously hot scene involving sex and chocolate. Makes me all tingly every time I read it. I keep meaning to read, you know, the rest of the novel -- Scott says it's actually quite good and all -- but somehow I haven't gotten around to it.
― jewelly (jewelly), Sunday, 13 July 2003 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Bryan (Bryan), Sunday, 13 July 2003 05:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Sunday, 13 July 2003 08:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― masta ace, Sunday, 13 July 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 13 July 2003 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― man, Monday, 14 July 2003 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― duane, Monday, 14 July 2003 11:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― duane, Monday, 14 July 2003 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)
you can't even begin to fathom how much this initially disturbed me. and not for the obvious reasons..
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 14 July 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sarah (starry), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― That Girl (thatgirl), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― That Girl (thatgirl), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 07:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 07:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― That Girl (thatgirl), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 07:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 07:08 (twenty-two years ago)
As far as written porn is concerned, Pat Califia's stuff can usually send me right over the top - especially the more taboo topics that she's anthologized. The same goes for Laura Antoniou's books and anthologies, and for Cecilia Tan, too. There's also an excellent collection of bi erotica put together by Carol Queen and Bill Brent. Basically, I just want stuff that's a bit off from centered, straight porn.
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 17:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)
I see an underserved market. Does anyone here want to pose for this new site? I'm also looking for emo guys willing to pose wearing hornrimmed glasses...and nothing else.;^}
― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― chuy_loco (chuy_loco), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)
Please sleep in my brain and whisper all your tender perversion directly to my cerebral cortex.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)
There's more than meets the eye in a field of growing porn. One way to look behind the scene is to consider the pornfield as a complex and constantly changing community.
It is a manufacturing community with many thousands of highly organized and highly efficient "factories" per hectare or acre in California. Basically, the raw materials for the factories are water and mineral nutrients from the soil and carbon dioxide and oxygen from the atmosphere and slappers from the mid-west.
The internal machinery that transforms these raw materials into useful products (yield) is powered by sunlight/cocaine. The products, called dry matter, consist of different combinations of carbohydrates, proteins, oils, and the mineral nutrients and sex oil. Differences in growth and yield between hybrids are a result of differences in factory internal machinery and budget.
The overall concept of porn production is that the raw materials and sunlight (power), combine with the internal machinery of the hybrid being grown to yield dry matter. This means that growth and yield of a porn plant are functions of the plant's genetic potential to react to the environmental conditions under which the 'plant is grown'.
Although nature provides the major portion of the environmental influence on porn growth and yield, a porn producer can manipulate the environment with proven managerial practices. Such operations include tillage and fertilization of the soil (ahem), irrigation, weed and insect control (cough cough), and many other practices.
Combinations of these practices vary over different production situations and management levels.
Regardless of the specific situation, however, a producer needs to understand porn growth and development. A producer who understands the porn plant can use production practices more efficiently to obtain higher yields and profit.
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)
The National Porn Growers Association (NPGA) is a national organization founded in 1957 and represents more than 32,300 dues-paying porn growers from 48 states and the interests of more than 300,000 farmers who contribute to porn checkoff programs in 20 states.
NPGA is a federation of state organizations, porn boards, councils and commissions developing and implementing programs and policies on a state and national level to help protect and advance the porn producer’s interests.
When did the NPGA start?
In 1956, Iowa farmer Walter Goeppinger began to organize the association with porn farmers from nine states because of minimal public recognition, appreciation and political support U.S. porn growers received in producing America’s largest crop.
One year later, the National Porn Growers Association was formed, with offices in Boone, Iowa. In 1984, leaders moved the headquarters from Iowa and established a national office in St. Louis, Missouri.
What is the NPGA Today?
NPGA is the largest trade organization in the United States representing porn growers. Since its inception the NPGA has successfully represented porn growers, throughout the entire porn industry, the U.S. government, and consumers and throughout the world.
Today, NCGA is working to develop new uses for porn through RESEARCH AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT programs. It is also the leading voice for porn growers in the promotion of BIOTECHNOLOGY products to U.S. and international government leaders. NPGA and your state association is committed to supporting FARM POLICY. By being your advocates, we can work to ensure government policy is fair so you can compete in a global economy. The NPGA and your state association also work to open new markets through TRADE and work on providing access to these new markets by improving our TRANSPORTATION systems.
Why do porn growers belong to the NPGA?
NPGA is the VOICE for the porn grower’s concerns in national legislative, judicial and regulatory agencies’ decisions.
Today, international leaders, industry leaders and national media, recognize NPGA as the leading porn grower organization on Capitol Hill.
― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)
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― Chris P (Chris P), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 06:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 04:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 04:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 05:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 05:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 06:11 (twenty-two years ago)
because of my history of sexual abuse, i do not like pentration, at all. i often find myself wanking to objects not intended as porn--the odd scene in films, country music videos, dreamcap forums, but when i approach porn, i like it to be long, with much taking of clothes off, and i often orgasm before any fuck scenes.
also, i tend to watch much j/o porn. because it seems non heriachal and more responsive--and i find myself really attached to j/o.
sometimes i wank to spanking porn--and sometimes, i think its revenge for the homophobia, i watch porn about straight guys being punished by being spanked or bound (but never gagged) and sometimes i watch tickling stuff...i feel guilty for the spanking stuff, it seems closest to my id.
i tend to like v. clean cut, slightly geeky looking guys, with hair in the right places, either ohama farm boys or english rent boys. they need to be either short and slight or tall and imposing--if it features both in the same video, thats a bonus.
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 29 May 2005 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)
i also really like suits, and uniforms in genral, but you knew that...and red heads are a huge turn on, but that happens rarely (i find good red headed porn that isnt hard core suprisngly difficult to find)
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 29 May 2005 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)
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― I like bukkake! (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 29 May 2005 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)
The Red-Headed Porn should be a Sherlock Homes slash title.
― caitlin (caitlin), Sunday, 29 May 2005 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― StanM, Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)
www.loverboysusa.com is the hottest (and despite the name it's not gay porn)
― nobody, Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Unfortunate Prankster (Unfortunate Prankster), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 29 May 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Unfortunate Prankster (Unfortunate Prankster), Sunday, 29 May 2005 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 29 May 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 29 May 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Unfortunate Prankster (Unfortunate Prankster), Sunday, 29 May 2005 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Sunday, 29 May 2005 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 29 May 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 29 May 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)
My porn tastes are pretty vanilla, echoed by most of ILX - attractive women believably enjoying whatever activity is going on is U&K. Other than that, I don't care so much.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 29 May 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 29 May 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― strng hlkngtn, Sunday, 29 May 2005 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― strng hlkngtn, Sunday, 29 May 2005 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Cool Hand Luuke (ex machina), Sunday, 29 May 2005 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― LeCoq (LeCoq), Monday, 30 May 2005 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― so loggged out it's not even funny, Monday, 30 May 2005 05:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― ()ops (()()ps), Monday, 30 May 2005 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amon (eman), Monday, 30 May 2005 05:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― hey there fuckface-ah! (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 May 2005 05:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amon (eman), Monday, 30 May 2005 06:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― hey there fuckface-ah! (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 May 2005 06:06 (twenty-one years ago)
That'd be ideal if I wasn't so jealous that no one would ever invite me to that party.
Is it me or do women think heels are sexier than men do? (Esp. for something claimed by some to be invented by men to fetishize women.)
― even more logged out than you, Monday, 30 May 2005 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 30 May 2005 06:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amon (eman), Monday, 30 May 2005 06:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― peronista (peronista), Monday, 30 May 2005 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― peronista (peronista), Monday, 30 May 2005 06:43 (twenty-one years ago)
your ideal totally creeps me out. sorry.
― Amon (eman), Monday, 30 May 2005 06:46 (twenty-one years ago)
"Noone's about! Let's fuck in the shrubbery!"
― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 30 May 2005 06:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huk-L, Monday, 30 May 2005 07:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Pinup Girls of YANK (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 May 2005 07:05 (twenty-one years ago)
Add celebrity and you have me as a definite fan.
― nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Monday, 30 May 2005 07:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― peronista (peronista), Monday, 30 May 2005 07:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huk-L, Monday, 30 May 2005 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)
Especially the live fish ones.
― even more logged out than you, Monday, 30 May 2005 07:23 (twenty-one years ago)
i like girls that are robust, both in a physical sense ("zaftig," but not necessarily fat as long as there's some curves and meat there) and personalitywise ("vivacious," visibly sensual, etc). i like guys who look like men -- no underdeveloped teenage boys for me, thanx. older men can be really hot, though this probably tops out somewhere in the mid-forties. bodywise, maybe just on the slightly stocky side of athletic (mesomorphic, not muscleheaded). i like people who are perverse about their perversions, who look like they're having fun and stimulating their brains as well as their naughty bits. aside from that, i prefer certain things more than others, but if the right ingredients are there, it's all fair game.
― The Pinup Girls of YANK (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 May 2005 07:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Pinup Girls of YANK (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 May 2005 07:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 30 May 2005 07:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Pinup Girls of YANK (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 May 2005 07:38 (twenty-one years ago)
it's celebrity amateur porn. for example the pamela tommy video. This wasn't intentionally made as porn, but as soon as it *left their house* and appeared on the streets/online, it became porn.
― nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Monday, 30 May 2005 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― percypisspants, Monday, 30 May 2005 08:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huk-L, Monday, 30 May 2005 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)
no seriously, i like that company vivid. their cream on films dont take themselves too seriously and they dont make a point of needlessly degrading the women.
― blahbariantheoriginal, Monday, 30 May 2005 08:49 (twenty-one years ago)
When Vivid degrades women, they damn well had it coming!
― Huk-L, Monday, 30 May 2005 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Monday, 30 May 2005 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm talking about the unbelievable porn scene where some guy just starts ripping off a woman's clothes and she's poorly acting, "No, stop, I'm trying to get away!" and then he eventually forces her to suck his dick and of course she complies without putting up much of a fuss -- turns her head to the left and to the right and then just accepts with her mouth. This is followed by "forced" sex and probably anal sex and then a facial and the woman can figure out if she's supposed to act turned on or violated, but it's supposed to be a little of both, I guess.
It's basically the caveman fantasy of "I'm going to take you whether you like it or not. And happily for the caveman, she DOES like it!"
― Unfortunate Prankster (Unfortunate Prankster), Monday, 30 May 2005 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)
i've been thinking about this. the answer is a resounding NO as long as somewhere in your mind you're aware that the "mock forced sex" is consensual for both participants and they both look like they're having a good time. there's some serious psychological shit behind real rape; otoh, sometimes normal ppl just like to play-act at harmless domination stuff.
― The Pinup Girls of YANK (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 May 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)
I recently joked with my girlfriend the other day about those cheesy romance novels, since the topic had just come up at the office, and I was mentioning to her that I didn't realize that's what they were like. And joking to her, the way a guy will when he is serious about something to gauge someone's reaction, "So would you like it if I just took you and had my way with you?" Her answer, "If the timing is right, it could be hot." My response was that it would never happen because she would most likely shoot down my first attempt and I would be too embarrassed to ever try it again. I could never be a rapist!
― Unfortunate Prankster (Unfortunate Prankster), Monday, 30 May 2005 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)
This seems to be a huge trend in Japanese porn.
Another good thing about 70's - 80's porn -- intercourse scenes are much shorter. On another thread, I said something about finding undressing and foreplay really hot in porn films, but after the girl is naked, I don't want to see her getting fucked for 12 minutes. So much contemporary porn contains extreme genital closeups that go on FOREVER -- who can watch that? I don't want a six minute rearview closeup of some guys' balls -- get it over with, and let's either return to the plot or move on to some other girls.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 30 May 2005 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Pinup Girls of YANK (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 May 2005 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― peronista (peronista), Monday, 30 May 2005 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― xxxx, Monday, 30 May 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 05:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Pinup Girls of YANK (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 07:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 07:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Unfortunate Prankster (Unfortunate Prankster), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)
Visual porn is a movie, a film - there usually has to be some kind of narrative (I don't mean story, necessarily, just that the various positions and acts have to add up to something before the climax), men have to have large penises in order to show up on camera, etc.. So it's not surprising that the, uh, climax is going to be a visual enhancement of what most people experience.
There's also a health aspect and a question of how far the actress is willing to go. I suspect that most women doing a porn film would prefer C on Ts than C inside, added pregnancy risk, presumably an added STD risk, etc..
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)
Haha, IRL nobody has sex in a swimming pool with a police detective while wearing a vampire costume and surrounded by dry ice smoke, either.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Inspector Van Helsing (afarrell), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine's exploding hamster zeppelin! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― g e o f f (gcannon), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)
That totally turns me off. I just don't get double penetration. Isn't it painful for the woman?
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 30 December 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 30 December 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 30 December 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 30 December 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 30 December 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 30 December 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)
Oh. The female members will be having male bits too, I suppose. Nevermind then.
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 30 December 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 30 December 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)
― [use of street parade as pivotal set piece] (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 December 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)
That's just creepy.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 30 December 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)
― Mike Hanle y (mike), Friday, 30 December 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)
like brian eno's postcards?!?
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 30 December 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)
― Mike Hanle y (mike), Friday, 30 December 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 30 December 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 30 December 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 30 December 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 30 December 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)
― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 30 December 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 30 December 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 30 December 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 December 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)
― truck-patch pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 31 December 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 31 December 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 31 December 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)
"ILX doesn't want pussy with good taste, ILX wants pussy that tastes good!"
― truck-patch pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 31 December 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 31 December 2005 02:19 (twenty years ago)
― remy (x Jeremy), Saturday, 31 December 2005 02:21 (twenty years ago)
Well, I don't collect them, but I do have half a dozen antique porn cards. Maybe you were thinking of me cause I think I have mentioned this before on ILE. My parents got them through a sale or something and I more or less *stole*'em. I also have a few porn comics. They are quite funny: for example a bloke in slippers and socks with a gigantic cock and a naked woman at his side. I can't help but think at times: this guy is now probably dead or too old to remember having posed for this card. :-)
Thanks for replying, Martin. I figured as much but didn't realize that anal penetration would tighten the vagina and, hence, make the experience more pleasurable. I'm dumb. :-)
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 31 December 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)
― ian j (laurah), Sunday, 1 January 2006 02:58 (twenty years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 1 January 2006 07:36 (twenty years ago)
― Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 1 January 2006 07:38 (twenty years ago)
― Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 1 January 2006 07:41 (twenty years ago)
― Wiggy (Wiggy), Sunday, 1 January 2006 09:24 (twenty years ago)
so loggged out, you are Tuomas and I claim my five.
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 2 January 2006 00:19 (twenty years ago)
― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Monday, 2 January 2006 02:18 (twenty years ago)
when i was sorting through my grandma's belongings after she passed on, one of the first things i grabbed from her bookshelf was sir richard burton's the perfumed garden of the shaykh nefzawi: the classic arabian treatise on physical love.
― it was jody that killed the beast (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 2 January 2006 03:45 (twenty years ago)
― it was jody that killed the beast (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 2 January 2006 03:49 (twenty years ago)
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 2 January 2006 16:48 (twenty years ago)
Suggestions:Make sure all words are spelled correctly. ...
Damn!
― nickn (nickn), Monday, 2 January 2006 21:48 (twenty years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Monday, 2 January 2006 22:10 (twenty years ago)
― it was jody that killed the beast (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 2 January 2006 22:32 (twenty years ago)
― it was jody that killed the beast (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 2 January 2006 22:34 (twenty years ago)
― Mestema (davidcorp), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 10:48 (twenty years ago)
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 11:12 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:00 (twenty years ago)