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Following on from the 'The ilx admin situation' thread, should ILX close? I for one would be gutted if this happened. Sadly I do not have the technical wizardry to contribute in that way to the running of ILX, but if a monetary contribution is needed to keep it going then so be it. So opinions please.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Pinkpanther don't worry about Tim he's just a sentimental old Jam fan.

I don't know of any financial reason for ILX to close but all donations to its hardworking founder and its moderators are gratefully received, perhaps in liquid form at a FAP.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:22 (twenty-two years ago)

U are more than welcome to tap me for a pint of 2, I'd be more than happy to provide!! :-)

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll take it over with some mates if you want.

― Spoonered (Spoonered), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i think this is a good idea

― gareth (gareth), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha Tom generally drinks 1s.

I'm not *just* a sentimental old Jam fan.

― Tim (Tim), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Gareth ILX to close? or Spoonered to take it over?

― james (james), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Gareth wants either of those options!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:25 (twenty-two years ago)

The current plan we are discussing is either a subscription model (cheapish at approx $5 per month - with discounts for year payments) or a tarrif version where each post is charged at $0.005 - revenue collected via either Paypal, credit card or a favour bank system which would allow for people to put up other people when they are in the country. There would also be a premium service which would have added functionality - as is the way of all premium services it will be a bit of a swizz.

The main arguement at the moment is whether we should be charging per post or per word (or - some anti-intellectuals amongst us - feel charging by the letter may be the best route to go down).

We do not envision any of these changes coming for quite some time - the pirate treasure we found near Eastbourne will keep us running for another six months or so - still this is a future we will have to face.

― Pete (Pete), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:26 (twenty-two years ago)

i would subscribe!

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Pete the "bit of a swizz" section was meant to be confidential.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:28 (twenty-two years ago)

its not that i want any particular outcome. i am playing devils advocate for alternative suggestions

― gareth (gareth), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:28 (twenty-two years ago)

You're just worried cos we all keep flirting with your bird.

― Pete (Pete), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Pete - what?

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Come on, you know.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Gareth's bird? I'm lost, but i guess that's the point!
Yeah fuck it, ILX to close!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I've heard rumors of ILX's death, but I've also heard rumors that rumors were vastly over-stated.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:40 (twenty-two years ago)

The premium rate subscription may well involve an"Ask N," icon where you can send the UK's number one researcher off on a pointless paper trail for you. Better than the best search engine anywhere. The man with ILx Search hard wired to his cerebral cortex.

It'll also have an auto Dan Perry dirty comeback button and a real actualy Stats Cock for your surfing pleasure.

― Pete (Pete), Friday, 25 July 2003 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Would we have to pay extra to be able to see Ned's special winky face emoticons?

― C J (C J), Friday, 25 July 2003 09:16 (twenty-two years ago)

No, he pays you for that.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 25 July 2003 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)

What's the going rate for a wink these days?

― C J (C J), Friday, 25 July 2003 09:18 (twenty-two years ago)

pay for it? are you mad? it would be like paying for bbc every year only more dull and boring ....

close the fucker down.

― doom-e, Friday, 25 July 2003 09:18 (twenty-two years ago)

What are you doing, pete?
My mind is going

― I-Hal-X (Alan), Friday, 25 July 2003 09:22 (twenty-two years ago)

*salutes stoically as the ship slowly sinks*

― Alex K (Alex K), Friday, 25 July 2003 09:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I have an idea: let's all pretend ILX has died and see how long we can go on without posting here. I bet it wouldn't be that long.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 25 July 2003 09:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I lasted three and a half minutes

― C J (C J), Friday, 25 July 2003 09:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Having said that, my pasty complexion might actually benefit from ILX dying. I can't believe it's the hottest summer in ages and I'm sitting inside posting here.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 25 July 2003 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd be happy to subscribe provided it wasn't outrageous. I've enjoyed wasting time on ILX over the last year or so.

― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Friday, 25 July 2003 09:33 (twenty-two years ago)

ILX is to close at midnight on sunday. It will reopen 9am on monday morning. I have given admin/mod passwords to spooner/calum already

― gareth (gareth), Friday, 25 July 2003 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)

well, i'm glad it' not closing i like the fact that i'm constantly interrupted at work by nice folks talking rubbish all day...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 25 July 2003 09:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I forbid ILX to close.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it's a capital idea. Give the old rusty-bones a breather, like. Well I'll see (some of) you chaps over in the [deleted by moderator]! koritfw indeed!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't stand so near too the computer, then.

― Mooro (Mooro), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

there is no way i'd ever pay for this thing to continue to ruin my life

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I would gladly pay a premium rate for an 'Ask N' button and even more for a 'Get Asked By N' button. I'm still hoping to stumble across that half-remembered French film.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah oui, don't remind me...

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

If payment had to be involved, I think it should be monthly. Per post would be ridiculous! I mean, then all the posts would have to be thought-out and meaningful and who wants that??

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

There is absolutely no plan to charge for the use of ILX and there never has been.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh the insanity!

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Not now we've had the mystery benefactor. Yay!

― Pete (Pete), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

btw my plummy Carry-On affectations above are brought to you courtesy of the news this morning that I'm coming to London in September. I'm told that all of Britain shares a single 56K modem connection amongst themselves, so ILX's demise shouldn't affect me too badly.

x-post, I see that there is a mystery benefactor involved. A shame, really. That modem's going to be pushed to its limit.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

YOU TRAITOR BASTARD!

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

''btw my plummy Carry-On affectations above are brought to you courtesy of the news this morning that I'm coming to London in September''

kewl! for how long?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I now call him TRAITOR HAND!!!

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

For as long as that modem holds up, Julio. The Internet is crucial for my work. The choice is pretty clear: ILX or me.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

''I'm told that all of Britain shares a single 56K modem connection amongst themselves, so ILX's demise shouldn't affect me too badly.''

we are in the middle of the BROADBAND REVOLUTION so we will be all ready to go by september. do not worry tracer.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

("my work" = porn sites, obviously)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

No, yet again Julio you are getting confused between what the internet would call Broadband and our countries policy on asylum seekers and foreign travellers - the policy knwon as Abroad Banned.

Under Abroad Banned I'm not sure if Tracer will even make it into the country.

― Pete (Pete), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

HAND BANNED!

― NA (Nick A.), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)

He's going to that biker bar in the sky.

― Larcole (Nicole), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Pete that joke is even lamer than the ILX to close one!

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not quite fed up enough with ILX to close it down just yet. Sorry to any naysayers.

― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

sweet mercy

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.aquariusrecords.org/audio/nynoiseesg.mp3

― Sommermute (Wintermute), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

1. Which broad is being banned again? I've been missing the moderator discussions.
2. Tracer, we call it Internet Connection Sharing.
3. If you need a place to stay in London, just ask! I have an unused sofabed in my living room. I might even get to introduce you to my close friend who isn't called Tracer Skidmore.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 25 July 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Which broad is being banned again?

ARF!

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 25 July 2003 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

techie question?

How much bandwidth does ILX + others use per year?

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 25 July 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

all of it.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 25 July 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd like to know the daily average

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 25 July 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Ignore these spies.

― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 26 July 2003 00:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't ignor jarlr'mai - he's here to help. IN much the same way as the guy in "Harry, he's here to help" is here to help.

― Matt (Matt), Saturday, 26 July 2003 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not quite fed up enough with ILX to close it down just yet

thank goodness. andrew you are a god.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Saturday, 26 July 2003 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Finitude can be valuable.

― the pinefox, Saturday, 26 July 2003 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

A bit of quality, I suppose.

― Lara (Lara), Saturday, 26 July 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Seriously, Jarl can really, really help. Any answers?

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Saturday, 26 July 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I would imagine emailing Andrew would be the best way to get the answer.

― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 26 July 2003 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i can really help as well!

― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 26 July 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

If it's about server offers, I think Andrew has said that there is no problem with bandwidth.

― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 26 July 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

four months pass...

perhaps its time has come

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

It's just getting good!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Lease the space to a tattoo parlor

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

i will miss it of course, but all good things must end, and now might be a good time, what with christmas and a new year and all. might be good to go out with a bang so people remember it fondly, rather than petering out into nothing...

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

no way gareth.

the board's had times like this before and we've weathered. If you're tired of it than step away yourself.

― A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Gareth, that's not a bad idea.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

blimey you're maudlin to-day gareth!!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I need to step away, at least long enough to go to the bathroom and then go get some lunch. Also, I need to check myself before I wreck myself.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Gareth, are you being serious?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

no, i'm not tired of it personally, it is as good as ever to me, i was just thinking aloud, more from an aesthetic position than anything else. i sometimes like the idea of things being wrapped up after a certain amount of time. this is no reflection on the content of ilx now or at any other time.

x-post with dan. yes, serious. i think nothing should last longer than 18 months

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

*boyhugs gareth*

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.mastel.ch/andre/satire/noah.jpg

― Wintermuté (Wintermute), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

x-post with dan. yes, serious. i think nothing should last longer than 18 months

It's fortunate for you that your mother does not share this opinion as well.

― Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

what, no closing ilx! noooo!

― Maria (Maria), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, yeah, aesthetically it would be pretty cool if Jay-Z actually stayed in 'retirement'. But let's be real here, we all want another album!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahahahaha!

And we LIKE the beef with Nas, too! Encore!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: Spanish Language Serials vs. American Soap Operas.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all about Betty La Fea dude.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 17 December 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I'VE SEEN LOVE GO BY MY DOOR, IT'S NEVER BEEN THIS CLOSE BEFORE. NEVER BEEN SO EASY OR SO SLOW. BEEN SHOOTING IN THE DARK TOO LONG. WHEN SOMETHIN'S NOT RIGHT IT'S WRONG. YER GONNA MAKE ME LONESOME WHEN YOU GO. DRAGON CLOUDS SO HIGH ABOVE, I'VE ONLY KNOWN CARELESS LOVE, IT'S ALWAYS HIT ME FROM BELOW. THIS TIME AROUND IT'S MORE CORRECT, RIGHT ON TARGET, SO DIRECT, YER GONNA MAKE ME LONESOME WHEN YOU GO. PURPLE CLOVER, QUEEN ANNE LACE, CRIMSON HAIR ACROSS YOUR FACE, YOU COULD MAKE ME CRY IF YOU DON'T KNOW. CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT I WAS THINKIN' OF, YOU MIGHT BE SPOILIN' ME TOO MUCH, LOVE, YER GONNA MAKE ME LONESOME WHEN YOU GO. FLOWERS ON THE HILLSIDE, BLOOMIN' CRAZY, CRICKETS TALKIN' BACK AND FORTH IN RHYME, BLUE RIVER RUNNIN' SLOW AND LAZY, I COULD STAY WITH YOU FOREVER AND NEVER REALIZE THE TIME. SITUATIONS HAVE ENDED SAD, RELATIONSHIPS HAVE ALL BEEN BAD. MINE'VE BEEN LIKE VERLAINE'S AND RIMBAUD. BUT THERE'S NO WAY I CAN COMPARE ALL THOSE SCENES TO THIS AFFAIR, YER GONNA MAKE ME LONESOME WHEN YOU GO. YER GONNA MAKE ME WONDER WHAT I'M DOIN', STAYIN' FAR BEHIND WITHOUT YOU. YER GONNA MAKE ME WONDER WHAT I'M SAYIN', YER GONNA MAKE ME GIVE MYSELF A GOOD TALKIN' TO. I'LL LOOK FOR YOU IN OLD HONOLULU, SAN FRANCISCO, ASHTABULA, YER GONNA HAVE TO LEAVE ME NOW, I KNOW. BUT I'LL SEE YOU IN THE SKY ABOVE, IN THE TALL GRASS, IN THE ONES I LOVE, YER GONNA MAKE ME LONESOME WHEN YOU GO.

― luckie (gabbneb), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

But I wish there was somethin' you would do or say
To try and make me change my mind and stay
We never did too much talking anyway
So don't think twice, it's all right.

― may pang (maypang), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, if we were going to end ILX at an optimally aesthetic time, we missed our chance a long long time ago.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, before the Autumn Catalogue picture thread.

― Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)

if we close ilx then the trolls have won.

― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)

somewhere, it was said that "ILX is not a free speech forum". Somewhere it was also said that ILX is not a democracy. It is undeniably a public forum, but I would disagree with it not being a centre for free speech and democracy. But all democratic societies need their police. And the police in this case are a good set of moderators, neither too strict (a "police state") nor too laissez faire.

I for one would be very sad if ILX closed. It's fun. Most ppl treat other posters with respect most of the time. Why should the minority force the majority to close up shop?

― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, it's not closing. It'll be okay. Fret not. See ya.

― I shall return (jel), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I would like to see ILX becoming a violent police state in the new year, just for variety.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)

ILX too close.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:51 (twenty-two years ago)

how bout starting up a "nu-ILX?"

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

ilx has been fantastic entertainment today so there's no reason to close it. and you know it gareth.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Julio, do you hate aesthetics?

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know what the word means N.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

i only wanted it to go out on a high julio

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it can reach 'new levels' gareth.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

bloody ravers

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe you are right julio. together we can make it, i just know it

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)

*cygnus x fades in, louder and louder*

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

with ronan on board, i think we can take them. but only if we stick together.

brothers on e

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

all the ingredients are there. its all down to us now.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

this is the best night of my life

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)

We all smile, we all sing.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

i feel rejuvenated, tonite has reaffirmed my life. i dont know if it is because i am still high but, you know, i'm really beginning to think maybe ilx should stay open, i havent felt this good in ages

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)

There's no limit.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)

TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry. Tom threw up the baseball.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually I had a dream last night that the blue text was green on ILX, maybe thats what we should change. It did look kinda nice.

Seriously though, as Dan keeps saying, anyone getting fed up with ILX should just log off. simple as that innit.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

you can change the colour of that text yourself

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

how ?

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry, i'm wrong. i thought you could do it through browser settings but this is in fact not the case

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

oh right, yeah its just the default link colour. its blue on Windows but its a slightly darker nicer colour on a couple of my linux browsers.

but the green was splendid. it was also displayed on a huge theater screen set up in a wharehouse and all the workers were allowed to post to it whenever they wanted. It wasn't actually ILX but a sort of spin off that someone had created, a 'son of' if you like.

see, this is why I don't post too often..

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Nobody told me I was supposed to hate ILx. I am out of the loop.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)

it's the new hating fun

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

can i have the rugs & the speakers please?
the record collection should be auctioned it must be worth a bomb

― pete s, Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Seriously though, as Dan keeps saying, anyone getting fed up with ILX should just log off. simple as that innit.

I logged off in August!! WTF!!

― ihttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003EA7.01._PE_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg, Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003EA7.01._PE_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)

(HAHA I OWN THAT)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:47 (twenty-two years ago)

DUDE, I had like 1-15 or something back in high school and I SOLD THEM ALL to some industrial music freak when I left college!!! I am now in the process of ordering as many as I can from Amazon Marketplace. I miss my stupid boom boom.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:48 (twenty-two years ago)

What I really want to know is how come I Love Music makes me hate music instead?

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

::geeky sci fi reference alert::

Does anyone else watch Babylon 5?

Do you remember the end of Season Four, where after the great battle between the older races of the galaxy, finally the young races (including the plucky humans) got together and kicked their Guardians/Moderators out of the galaxy? To go "Beyond the Rim" and leave the humans to look after themselves. (I don't know if "Beyond The Rim" was a metaphor for death, or a metaphor for moving on to pastures green, Go West, and all that, or what, but I like it.)

I've been on forums that have been destroyed by a core group splitting themselves off, and splitting themselves off, and forming a more and more elite, and therefore more and more repressive group, until they turn on each other in their quest to keep out the newbie hoards.

There comes a point where you have to let the newbie hoards take it, and make it into what they want it to be, even if that's something that destroys what you originally loved.

― HRH Queen Kate (kate), Thursday, 18 December 2003 09:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Well I'm puzzled for a kickoff..

Ive been here since Sept. I have enjoyed the music discussion, and am sort of in the process of picking my fave threads for a nice book for my shelf.. It was great then, the current args are interesting in a 'reality TV' sort of way, and it's just like being down the pub and joining in someones conversation without everyone staring at you and saying "excuse me this is a private conv". Particularly with some names you recognise from other places (famous/obscure). And the ability to continue a conv. from 6 months to a year or two ago.

The 'angry/insulting' posts are watta off, but then they havent invlved me so that's easy to say. I havent gone to the Saddam thread but even when it was "3 new messages" or summat, I guessed it would be a case of hang the bas no don't hang the bas hey youre a pinko wot im not an assban oh yeh and so on. Presumably the debate on Huntley is going the same way.

Like that pub I mentioned, the threads expire off the board and people calm down. Some that stomped off come back and maybe moderate (small m) their own postings to avoid misund.. and some go and do something more int instead as the TV show would have it.

Anyhow, don't delete the board/archive. that's it.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 18 December 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah, and I stil hate that "No Message" go back and type it again....

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 18 December 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

WTF is with all you people? Kate is OTM. I've seen it happen elsewhere. If you don't like it, as Barry said on the locked "Shout for the Moderator" thread, leave. Or alternatively, and more productively, make it the kind of place you want it to be. Forums (fora?) like these are only as good as the contributions made - wasting time and effort by wringing your hands and gnashing your teeth and saying "it was better in the old days" isn't helping anyone move on. Make it like it was. Trolls and coming across people you don't like aren't new concepts, but learn to deal with, ignore or tolerate it. Or leave.

(also, what mark g said)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 18 December 2003 10:03 (twenty-two years ago)

It's already too late.

― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 18 December 2003 10:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I've misinterpreted me, Ailsa. I'd never say something so simplistic as "if you don't like it, leave!" That is NOT what I am saying.

If you love something, it's worth struggling to preserve those things you love about it.

If you have stopped loving it, to the point where you would rather destroy it than work to change it or because you can no longer control it (which is what happened in B5, and what) then it is time to leave. There's a subtle difference, but an inportant one.

But enough of this meta shit. Maybe I should start or revive a thread about Babylon 5.

― HRH Queen Kate (kate), Thursday, 18 December 2003 10:10 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, stop it tim.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 18 December 2003 10:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes. I mean, whatever you say, M'Lud.

― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 18 December 2003 10:14 (twenty-two years ago)

B-but Kate, I didn't say you said that. Barry said it. Here

And then I said it was a bit drastic and suggested trying to make things better instead. Jeez, I was only trying to help.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 18 December 2003 10:16 (twenty-two years ago)

(er, above that)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 18 December 2003 10:18 (twenty-two years ago)

If that's the Admin thread, I am not allowing myself to post to it any more.

Sheesh, I cannot believe, with all this searching, that I can't find a Babylon 5 thread! Star Trek, Star Wars, even freaking Tron, get their threads, but no B5.

― HRH Queen Kate (kate), Thursday, 18 December 2003 10:18 (twenty-two years ago)

start a new B5 thread then, tho i will never post to it, shocker!

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 18 December 2003 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm with Mark G.

As a comparative (about 15 months) newbie I have never felt anything except welcome. Nobody has told me I've carelessly wandered into the Members Stand, and would I mind sodding off and reading the signs more carefully in future? This despite the fact that I have sometimes been outspoken, and grabbed the wrong end of the stick and trodden on the odd toe.

For that reason I'd miss ILE like hell if it disappeared, and if it turns out that the dreaded C-person, or any other ADD-addled dickhead of his ilk, has caused ILX to close down, he has WON and that would stick in my craw worst of all - it would be a victory for stupidity.

― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Thursday, 18 December 2003 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

i was top of the statscock yesterday. this seems as good a reason as you're gonna get to close ILX

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 18 December 2003 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm #114 currently. No way on God's green earth is ILE closing until I've cracked the Hot 100.

― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Thursday, 18 December 2003 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm in the Hot 100! I think we should do what someone recommended earlier, and make ILX a private board just for the 100 most regular posters. That way we would have only committed ILXors, not those nasty trolls.

(I'm kidding.)

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 18 December 2003 11:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate, maybe I should rephrase what I said. If you are making life shitty for other people because you're not getting anything out of ILX and are scattergunning bad voibs everywhere, then it's time to leave.

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 18 December 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

it should have been a 7", it's turned into a gatefold concept album.

― chris (chris), Thursday, 18 December 2003 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

why the fuck is the shout for the moderator thread locked? jesus!

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 18 December 2003 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Er, cos there's a new one?

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 18 December 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Because there is a new one and it was a little bit off topic (SFTM is for emergencies).

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 18 December 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, fair enough, Barry. That makes more sense. Like I said, I stopped even reading the now locked moderator thread because it was doing nothing but upsetting me, and the board.

― HRH Queen Kate (kate), Thursday, 18 December 2003 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)

fair enough! you never know lately. I presumed it disappeared

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 18 December 2003 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha, this is how my friends felt about B5 itself during season 5.

Anyway, I am down with your metaphor Kate, OTM. And you should start a B5 thread...I know I was going to when I got into it a few years ago, I don't know why I didn't.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 December 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Someone should moderate those moderator threads some of these days...

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 18 December 2003 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

A B C - A-Always, B-Be, C-Closing. Always Be Closing.

― Enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 18 December 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

How bout a nice half-off sale before the actual closing?

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 18 December 2003 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

What I really want to know is how come I Love Music makes me hate music instead?

"if this is what it's like to love music..."

― ron (ron), Thursday, 18 December 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

i hid it from you ronan

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 18 December 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

it feels like something heating up, can i leave with you?

― stevem timberlaken (blueski), Thursday, 18 December 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

If you're going to shut down stuff, leave ILM. ILM has always been nice to horse around in for me, but on ILE I've honestly never felt comfortable, welcome, or that there was a point, or that anything could be fun unless you started sucking up to the right people first. Have fun with your moderator royal-rumbles and cutesy pic-fests, I'm outta here. I really tried to enjoy ILE.

― DarrensCoq (DarrenK), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Bye.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry seems to be the hardest word

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

When is it closing?

― Deal Sale, Monday, 19 December 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

Tomorrow!

― Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 19 December 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

NOES!!!¬¬¬`1

― snowkitten (g-kit), Monday, 19 December 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

Closing down sale! Everyone must go! Buy one poster, get one free!

― Kate Classic (kate), Monday, 19 December 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

Five Go-old Rings

― Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Monday, 19 December 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

it's GOLDRINGS+5 if you're l33t.

― snowkitten (g-kit), Monday, 19 December 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, you're right.

― Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Monday, 19 December 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 19 December 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

twice in one day!? i retire.

― snowkitten (g-kit), Monday, 19 December 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

What day of Christmas is this?

― Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Monday, 19 December 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

The Days of Christmas don't start until *after* Christmas!

― Kate Classic (kate), Monday, 19 December 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

spoilsport.

― snowkitten (g-kit), Monday, 19 December 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Are you sure?

― Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Monday, 19 December 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

yep. she definitely is.

― snowkitten (g-kit), Monday, 19 December 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Yes! They start at Christmas, and run through until Ephiphany.

My mum is a priest, I know all these festival things. (OK, I lose track of how many Sundays there are after Trinity, but the 12 Days of Christmas is an easy one.)

― Kate Classic (kate), Monday, 19 December 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

"My mum is a priest"?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 19 December 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

mum is a priest
is a priest
a priest
priest
...

ECHO, SLOTH!

― snowkitten (g-kit), Monday, 19 December 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Kenan's ass picture opened the hellmouth.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Monday, 19 December 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

Are you trying to exorcise my mum, g-kit? that's not very nice!

― Kate Classic (kate), Monday, 19 December 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

i dunno what the fuck is going on, to be honest. i'm just glad i haven't been banned or shot yet.

― snowkitten (g-kit), Monday, 19 December 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

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