Taking Sides- Coca-Cola VS Pepsi

not bad considering I got my 15 shares for only 30 7/8

They have been discontinued? Aw, I haven't had either for a really long time. – Sad. Why? Teeth.

Actually a couple of years ago KFC, Taco Bell and Pizza Hut split off from Pepsi to be their own company (YUM! brands inc.), But they were once owned by Pepsi.

today: YUM 29.09 +0.29

http://www.yum.com/

Am I punk rock?

Christian Vasbotn Braaten for CA governor.

How did an innocuous soft drink, more than 99% sweetened water, come to wield such enormous economic and marketing power and assume such significance in so many people's lives? What does it say to us about who we are and what we are becoming?

The Cola Conquest tells the story of Coca-Cola - the "sublimated essence" of all that America stands for - and the century-long competition with its rival, Pepsi. Shot in the United States, Canada, Russia, England, France, Mexico, and China, The Cola Conquest takes us from Coca-Cola's invention by a morphine-addicted Civil War veteran to the 21st century and China, where Coke is trying to wipe out the 3000 year-old tea drinking habit. "

I've seen it and agree with this review that says it's not a left-wing filmmakers' attack on a corporation but their point of view on history + were amazed of the power of their influence.

Pinkpanther, you're joking about the Daily Mail, aren't you?

Man, pepsi is some nasty shit.

Yum! pwnd by mafia t/f?

Dr.Pepper, obviously.

In May of 2002, Yum! Brands (then known as Tricon Global Restaurants, Inc.) acquired Long John Silver's and A&W Restaurants to accelerate the Company's multibranding strategy and drive global growth by offering consumers two brands and more choice in one restaurant.

Wonder why they changed name was it 'cause Tricon Global Restaurants sounded too much like MOB?????

The terms KenTaco Hut, Kentucky Fried Taco Hut, and Colonel's Taco Hut are used colloquially to refer to a building that includes a KFC, a Pizza Hut, and a Taco Bell, all Yum! properties. The menu at each restaurant may be more limited than at the standalone versions. Also, in the same sense, locations with a KFC and Pizza Hut are often known as Kentucky Fried Pizza, a KFC and a Taco Bell are referred to as Kentucky Fried Taco, KenTaco, or KFBell, and a Taco Bell and Pizza Hut as Taco Hut.

Did not know dat.

ice cold pepsi or coke okay when hungover. mostly dud and big massive dud if not cold or served in those horrible unrefreshing plastic bottles.

give me 'cloudy' lemonade any day, or ginger beer.

Anyone ever see an A&W + KFC + Taco Bell? WHY NOT????

http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/061113/061113_kfc_logo_vmed5p.widec.jpg

HE'S NOT DAVE THOMAS. HE'S THE FUCKIN' COLONEL.

THAT BETTER BE HIS MASONIC APRON HE'S WEARING.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7985/kfcpi0.png

A startling coincidence, wouldn't you say?

Pepsi's new look:

http://www.onefloorup.com/uploaded_images/January09/0106-Pepsilogos.jpg

what say you

Is that for the States? If so I think it's too effete and European looking to sell with the kind of Americans who still drink cola.

The diet ones, maybe.

Do you think people would stop buying Pepsi over something like design? It's not like they made it pink.

It's also bizarre -- though interesting -- that there are different variations on the circle logo, which, incidentally, is slightly reminiscent of the profile of a woman with long red hair.

I don't think people will consciously stop buying it because of the design but I think it could cause a slight shift toward coke.

But is it really more effeminate than this?

http://moon.ouhsc.edu/dthompso/namics/gifiles/coke_can.gif

Sleek and modern I can see (and I can see these things maybe turning people off, also), but effeminate? Tab is effeminate.

No the coke logo is totally manly cuz it has a thingy going into a hole. Plus the name's sound is reminiscent of "cock."

Ok, I guess "manly" can still describe totally gay things.

The American consumer's response to homoeroticism =/= the American consumer's response to effete European-looking stuff.

Hey, don't blame the messenger, I'm just telling it like it is.

If it turns out you designed it I'm going to feel really bad.

Yeah, I'm sure if I was in charge of Pepsi's design overhaul I'd be really upset about ILX poster Hurting's critique of the cans' relative manliness.

Effeminate is something different than it used to be, and so is manly. By your definition, I guess Axe Body Spray is also effeminate.

This is not my definition.

I wouldn't drink Pepsi if it came in a platinum statuette of Randy Macho Man Savage piledrivering Hulk Hogan.

I just think that the design is not going to work for the typical American Pepsi consumer. I actually think it's a nice design.

I think it is a nice design, too. I hate Pepsi, but I would probably drink it if it started coming in a platinum statuette of Macho Man Randy Savage piledriving Hulk Hogan (provided the expense stayed low). I would say that the average American Pepsi consumer has rolled with the punches so far and will probably not do anything but keep drinking Pepsi as normal. I am glad we had this lengthy talk, though.

That would be appropriately manly AND homoerotic, eh?!

Perhaps Pepsi ought to start listening to ME a bit more.

It looks a lot like the Obama logo to me.

^^^^^^Thank you.

America bought Obama, didn't they?

How could you look at that and think "profile of a woman with long red hair" (??!!!?) and not "Obama campaign"?

In May of 2002, Yum! Brands (then known as Tricon Global Restaurants, Inc.) acquired Long John Silver's and A&W Restaurants to accelerate the Company's multibranding strategy and drive global growth by offering consumers two brands and more choice in one restaurant.

It's a Krusty Kinda Khristmas, brought to you by ILG - selling your body's chemicals after you die - and by Lil' Sweetheart Cupcakes, a subsidiary of ILG.

Hmm, interesting point. But moreso than the old Pepsi logo?

i gues its fitting that lil sweetheart cupcakes is a sub of i love games

xpost Yes, because it's on a plainer field.

Also: http://www.adweek.com/adweek/photos/stylus/65090-PepsiL.jpg

Probably intentional, I'd say.

http://www.sff.net/people/raymund/uploaded_images/Obama-logo-712385.jpg
http://www.amazingskies.org/Images/PepsiLogo2.jpg

Uh yeah, those look rather different in design terms, lol.

Old pepsi logo is ugly as sin, btw, imho

Yeah, agreed the new one looks more like the Obama logo

PHEW

I don't think 'effeminate' is the problem, I think the problem is it looks more like a luxury soda to me. And it seems like a particularly poor time to be re-branding yourself as a luxury item. The font choice is a bigger mistake than the logo.

Yeah, agreed. It looks more appropriate for a new brand of fitness water.

I don't think it says luxury. I think it says "simplicity", and that it is probably a v v good time to be branding yourself as such.

Pepsi always be changin' it up on 'em. Coca-Cola stay real.

Also Americans love ugly graphic design.

It needs like some digitized shiny metal effect or something.

Also Americans love ugly graphic design.

There is a change happening, though. Tastes change, zeitgeists shift, especially in design. Nothing looked like this:

http://www.langleycreations.com/andrew/kick-ass-stuff/codered/images/codered_logo.gif

in the 60s. Things were still ugly some of the time, but streamlined and simple were v much marketable and in fashion.

That's not bad -- it has a terrible color scheme and it looks alarming like it might be able to cut you or something. Extra points for shitty gradient effect. I say it's a winner.

Sorry Roxy I am in a bitter mood. Luv ya!

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you don't sound bitter you just sound blind

http://antemeridiem.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/windowslivewriterspiderman3-f706spiderman342.jpg

This is what Pepsi should go for.

also, you being rong is just you being rong, it does not hurt my tender feelings so stop apologizing

xpost omG

Sort of reminds me of this...
http://www.allnations.ac.uk/upload/OUlogo230.jpg

It'll probably look better IRL. Also, I think that the clean design is simply a way of having more can-side real estate to clutter up with "TXT THS NMBR get ringtones/iTunes/blahblahblah"

I think it's very nice looking. But who drinks Pepsi -- regular Pepsi, anyway -- at this point? Not people who like sleekness and slimness.

Seattle bus tunnel atations (underground) are FULL of new Pepsi logo banners, enormous on bright not-quite-primary-colored backgrounds, as the "O" in phrases like "OH WOW" etc. So nice, clean, simple, graphic, soothing - the best advertisements ever. Like nice public art, but with Pepsi logos. Feels like being in a museum display based on minimalist Hong Kong.

"atations" = stations

the world will end in a cola war, hurting

we didn't start the fire...

new font is old font, more or lessly

http://www.plastic-society.com/shop/images/products/diet%20pepsi-cream.jpg

http://www.plastic-society.com/shop/images/products/diet%20pepsi-cream.jpg

maybe I just fear change

and hope!

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we've gotten this far w/o mentioning pepsi's demographic orientation?

People with no taste buds?

fags apparently

http://www.amazon.com/Real-Pepsi-Challenge-Inspirational-Breaking/dp/0743265718

well don't that just BEAT ALL

::puts hands on hips::

Oh the "Negro market"

http://www.pepsico.com/Purpose/Diversity-and-Inclusion/Timeline-of-Diversity.aspx

Diversity isn't just the right thing to do. It's the right thing to do for our business.

"doing diversity"

http://www.slate.com/id/2198198/

establishment Coke

otm, now we get somewhere

http://www.refresheverything.com/

I would say that the average American Pepsi consumer has rolled with the punches so far and will probably not do anything but keep drinking Pepsi as normal.

Pepsi design is just about the art, then? That's kind of interesting.

i prefer the taste of coca-cola, but do not drink soda

Ok, I guess "manly" can still describe totally gay things.

― roxymuzak, Friday, January 9, 2009 10:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This reminds me of 300 doing way better business than The Spirit because the guys who loved 300 think The Spirit is too gay, despite the fact that 300 is way gayer. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything though.

Pepsi design is just about the art, then? That's kind of interesting.

― Sundar, Friday, January 9, 2009 7:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

That's not exactly what I'm saying, but I do think it would take a pretty O_O design change to change much at this point in Pepsi's trajectory as a company. I think the design is not only inoffensive enough to not put people off, but is actually appealing to prevailing aesthetic tastes. Things can't look XTREME!!!!MONSTERMEGABEASTSODAhereisagradienteffectLOL forever.

This reminds me of 300 doing way better business than The Spirit because the guys who loved 300 think The Spirit is too gay, despite the fact that 300 is way gayer. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything though.

― caek, Friday, January 9, 2009 8:00 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

Which is funny, because iirc both have logos in the same shite font

I'm not a shill, but wow does Coca-Cola have an attractive site!! I like Coke better, although I'm not a cola drinker.

I notice Coca-Cola is still paying for a 24-year old marketing blunder, having to slap the word "classic" on all their labels.

i like the 'minimalised' styling of the new cans. i don't like the altering of the wavy line tho - apparently it's so it represents a smile better (with a thin smile for diet and a bigger open-mouthed smile for the MAX), doesn't work for me.

http://www.authorsden.com/NewsImage/8547.gif

Coke > Pepsi
but
Diet Pepsi > Diet Coke
but
Mexican Coke [cane sugar] > American Coke [High Fructose Corn Syrup]

but
Diet Pepsi > Coke
and yet
Brain without tumors > Aspartame
so
Tea or Coffee > Soda

we were at my mother in laws for an xmas lunch and i asked for a coke and my brother in law pulled out a mexican coke from the fridge. such a golden moment. suprise mexican coke. it felt like christmas or something.

but
Diet Pepsi > Coke
and yet
Brain without tumors > Aspartame

not saying that shit's good for you, but:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/265559_soda05.html

http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/pepsi_new_bottles.php

lmao the bottle look like a dick

coke.

it kind of pisses me off when ppl go "i never drink soda, ugh, the idea of filling my body with something so awful" when you know like 80% of those people can't go a day without coffee.

even worse is when smokers pull that shit

http://www.suckatlife.com/images/pepsiLogoBlowatlife.jpg

I just bought a Diet Pepsi because of the new design. Thought you should know.

The design is actually quite a coup on Pepsi's part. I've bought a few because my eye was drawn to the bottle or can even before I even knew it was Pepsi.

the only cola i drink these days is pepsi max

Do you crush the can on your forehead when you're done with it

pepsi throwback!

pepsi RAW ugh

tastes like sugared water with ground black pepper.

* Sparkling water.
* Cane sugar.
* Apple extract.
* Colour: plain caramel.
* Natural plant extracts (including natural caffeine and kola nut extract).
* citric, tartaric and lactic acids.
* Stabiliser: gum arabic.
* Thickener: xanthan gum.

So basically what cola bottles would taste like if cola actually tasted like that?

went for this taste test last week:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3594/3670699334_7e10140354.jpg

green tea coke vs. shiso pepsi

wuz gnarls dudes

coke

i guess pepsi is cheaper tho cuz everybody fuckin has it

the movie theater, the diner, other places

i drink coke all the time

pepsi is garbage

vanilla coke 4 lyfe

i miss drinking soda s0 much r.i.p.

diet pepsi tastes like sweetened windex

Do you mean Pepsi Max? CauseI quite like that. Diet Coke is awful to my stomach. Chemical warfare.

green tea coke -> the bomb. but didn't find it anymore when i was in tokyo the other month. BAH

I like Pepsi max a lot (thanks UYD!) but I really dont need that much caffiene. OTOH, plain old diet pepsi tastes good, but fucks with my stomach.

pepsi max >>>> diet coke

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/business/media/31adco.html

http://i.imgur.com/dVIBIEq.png

Awwww sheeeit.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/mar/28/coca-cola-police-human-waste-drinks-cans