Christian Bale Cast As New 'Batman'

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September 11, 2003
Christian Bale Cast As New 'Batman'
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 8:02 p.m. ET

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Holy casting news! An ``American Psycho'' has been picked to star as Bruce Wayne in a new ``Batman'' movie.

Christian Bale will don the cape and mask in a film that will chronicle the early career of The Dark Knight, Warner Bros. Pictures announced Thursday.

``Memento'' filmmaker Christopher Nolan will direct the movie, which is set to begin filming in early 2004.

``What I see in Christian is the ultimate embodiment of Bruce Wayne. He has exactly the balance of darkness and light that we were looking for,'' Nolan said in a statement.

Bale, 29, made his breakthrough in Steven Spielberg's ``Empire of the Sun'' in 1987, playing a boy trying to survive in a Japanese-run POW camp in China.

His other credits include ``Swing Kids'' (1993), ``Velvet Goldmine'' (1998) and ``Shaft'' (2000). Bale's most infamous role was as the yuppie serial-killer in 2000's ``American Psycho.''

Warner Bros. is trying to resurrect the ``Batman'' franchise. The character became a top box office draw after director Tim Burton and star Michael Keaton made two hit movies ``Batman'' (1989) and ``Batman Returns'' (1992).

The films got a little campier when Joel Schumacher took over for 1995's ``Batman Forever,'' with Val Kilmer as the Caped Crusader. The next installment, 1997's ``Batman & Robin,'' was a critical disaster that alienated many fans. It starred George Clooney.

― Sam J. (samjeff), Thursday, 11 September 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

The idea that if things had turned out differently I could now be Batman is the weirdest thing yet.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 September 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

why's that?

dunno what to think of this, on the good side christian bale's hot and on the other side i can't not think of him as arthur from velvet goldmine. (even when i was watching american psycho i was like 'dude, he grew up weird.')

― Maria (Maria), Thursday, 11 September 2003 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I nearly got the part in Empire of the Sun, Maria.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 September 2003 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

My mother's response: "He looks more like Robin to me."

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 11 September 2003 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

But, N., the chain of events also hinges on you signing up for "Swing Kids." And "Newsies."

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 11 September 2003 23:35 (twenty-two years ago)

(shudder)

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 11 September 2003 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't actually think I would have ended up playing Batman. CB ended up somewhat beefier than me, but with Hollywood gyms, who knows?

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 September 2003 23:38 (twenty-two years ago)

For the record, I was shuddering at the news, not at your potential roles in Swing Kids and Newsies.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 11 September 2003 23:40 (twenty-two years ago)

hell, Bale sounds as good as anybody. Though frankly I'd wish they'd give up on Batman and Superman for awhile. We ain't DYING for either.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 11 September 2003 23:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Has Christian Bale ever been in a good movie? He's 0-for-6 per this thread (though Empire of the Sun might not be as bad as I remember - I really hate Spielberg aside from Indiana Jones).

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 11 September 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd shudder at the thought of N. in Swing Kids and Newsies.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 11 September 2003 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm deeply entertained. Because it would mean that the Saddest Fan of Movie Musicals Ever By Her Own Description would have rushed out to see N. on the screen.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 September 2003 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm curious about this statement:
The films got a little campier when Joel Schumacher took over for 1995's ``Batman Forever,'' with Val Kilmer as the Caped Crusader. The next installment, 1997's ``Batman & Robin,'' was a critical disaster that alienated many fans.

I didn't even notice a downward trend, they were all acceptable, if underwhelming and disappointing, and the first one seemed almost as campy as the last...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 12 September 2003 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)

it's hard to see how bale acting suave as bruce wayne isnt gonna mean bateman again rather than batman. he's too snivelly

― Chip Morningstar (bob), Friday, 12 September 2003 00:16 (twenty-two years ago)

My shudder was as much for the Nolan thing as the Bale.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 12 September 2003 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

but with Hollywood gyms, who knows?

hahahahaha.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 12 September 2003 00:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh. My. God. Some people...

Compared to the other people they were thinking of casting (Joshua Jackson???? WTF?!?!?), I think CB is an good choice.

Because it would mean that the Saddest Fan of Movie Musicals Ever By Her Own Description would have rushed out to see N. on the screen.

Seeing Newsies was traumatic enough without all of that unpleasantness.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 12 September 2003 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Wasn't Darren Aronofsky supposed to be doing the next Batman movie? Or just the script?

― David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Friday, 12 September 2003 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

(shudder redux)

― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 12 September 2003 01:20 (twenty-two years ago)

this movie is gonna stink to high heaven.

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 12 September 2003 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)

in my opinion,the first film was a masterpiece,one of the best films i've ever seen,and one of tim burton's greatest achievements
the second was good but not as good
the third and fourth were the worst things ever
ever

― robin (robin), Friday, 12 September 2003 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)

"ice to see you"

― robin (robin), Friday, 12 September 2003 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked the first movie when it came out, but when I saw it again years later I didn't think it held up that well.

The rest of the movies I didn't bother with, except to laugh at Batman and Robin when I caught a few minutes of it on cable.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 12 September 2003 01:52 (twenty-two years ago)

"Batman and Robin" is one of the funniest movies ever. It's one of the few things I've loved Uma Thurman in.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 September 2003 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)

batman forever is a seriously great film, almost my favorite... batman is hilarious too, batman returns really weird and sad... batman & robin is kinda boring but its fun enough to watch, its not nearly as bad as everyone says and it would be more interesting if it was. the first three though, wow!!

― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 12 September 2003 02:10 (twenty-two years ago)

and i will go in see this one even though it will probably be all 'gritty' or something

― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 12 September 2003 02:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Batman Returns is weird and sad in a good way, I think, it looks really fantastic all the way through though it seems to get pretty confused partway through.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 12 September 2003 02:12 (twenty-two years ago)

this is a given for any movie he's in, but christopher walken is good too

― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 12 September 2003 02:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Coming soon--Catwoman with Halle Berry! you know of this? summer 2004!

― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 12 September 2003 02:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Sharon Stone will be in this too...

― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 12 September 2003 02:16 (twenty-two years ago)

in the end none of them are ever as good as the animated series

― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 12 September 2003 02:16 (twenty-two years ago)

The animated series is great.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 12 September 2003 02:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it based on the "Batman: Year One" story as written by Frank Miller? That's seriously one of the best Batman stories I've read, and I'm a pretty big Batman fan.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 12 September 2003 02:22 (twenty-two years ago)

"batman returns" is a twisted masterpiece, easily tim burton's creepiest film. i'm a bit sick of the "the first one was the best!" mantra, it was good but not THAT good. the too-many-villains argument is a valid one (c. walken is great but he doesn't really need to be in the movie) but i think the penguin and catwoman are WAY more interesting than the joker. trife is right, it's a very sad film, which may be why a lot of people really hated it. (roger ebert didn't like it because "i always thought it would be FUN to be batman!")

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 12 September 2003 05:17 (twenty-two years ago)

``What I see in Christian is the ultimate embodiment of Bruce Wayne. He has exactly the balance of darkness and light that we were looking for,'' Nolan said in a statement.

I love living in a world where somthing like that gets "said in a statement."

And yeah, fucking Batman Returns is so much better than all the other Batman movies combined that, you know, if it were any more better than them, it would be something else entirely. Which it is. I respect Tim Burton because he did his time on the first one, made the money to make the money guys happy, then made the movie he really wanted to make, and fucked off. And it's the movie that kind of gets lost when people talk about the "Batman movies," which is probably as he intended.

― JesseFox (JesseFox), Friday, 12 September 2003 07:06 (twenty-two years ago)

(My memory of seeing Batman Returns was colored by going to a matinee and sitting behind a mom with two sub-8-year-old kids who was clearly horrified and spent the whole movie trying to distract her kids from the screen, "Don't you want more popcorn? Don't you have to go to the bathroom?" And one of the kids, during the great bonadage sequence, asking, "Why is she hurting him?")

― JesseFox (JesseFox), Friday, 12 September 2003 07:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Batman Returns is totally the indie boy choice but it is the best.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 12 September 2003 07:17 (twenty-two years ago)

i find them all to be kind of ... noisy.

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 12 September 2003 08:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know why I never got round to seeing Batman Returns, I think it had something to do w/Siouxsie and the Banshees.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 12 September 2003 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)

the penguin rocket army is heartbreaking!

― Chip Morningstar (bob), Friday, 12 September 2003 10:20 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm going to watch it RIGHT NOW

― Chip Morningstar (bob), Friday, 12 September 2003 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i prefer the first one for the zany comic-book element

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 12 September 2003 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)

When I went to see Batman Returns, I stupidly forgot to bring my glasses (I had only just started wearing glasses when I was 13 and wasn't used to wearing them everywhere) so the film looked awfully fuzzy to me.

Also when Batman Forever was released, Digitiser's Mr Biffo wrote something along the lines of "from the title alone, this film sounds like a mid-70's production by the Children's Film Foundation".

― Chriddof (Chriddof), Friday, 12 September 2003 12:05 (twenty-two years ago)

"Batman Returns" is ferociously classic. Everyone in the movie (Keaton, Pfeiffer, DeVito, Walken) was fantastic.

The biggest problem I had with "Batman Forever" was the fact that Two-Face was Tommy Lee Jones instead of Billy Dee Williams. (Jones also played him like he was a second-rate Joker, which is just not the right take for that character AT ALL.)

I would be more excited about Halle Berry as Catwoman if she hadn't been so stiff as Storm.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 September 2003 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)

(What the hell am I saying???? Halle Berry in leather catsuit = BEST MOVIE EVER)

(inner nerd vs inner pervert FITE)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 September 2003 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)

The other Dan wanted Thandie Newton to be Storm!

― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 12 September 2003 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

It's called Batman:INTIMIDATION.

Batman becomes involved in a deadly battle of wits with a relentless gang of school bullies.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 12 September 2003 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

who shout things out of car windows

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 12 September 2003 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

BOOOO!
(though I said the same thing when they case Keaton, and he was the best)
Bale is just such a prissy little twerp though.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 12 September 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Y'know who they should've got? Steven Wright. That would be awesome.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 12 September 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it had something to do w/Siouxsie and the Banshees

Embrace your inner goth. You know you want to!

The other Dan wanted Thandie Newton to be Storm!

The other Dan is an unparalleled genius.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 September 2003 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm, anyone note the obvious American Psycho = Batman joke (what with Batman being a psycho, obv - or at least a Goth).

― Pete (Pete), Friday, 12 September 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

whatever, as anyone who's seen my stand-up routine knows, Batman is a richie rich sellout who exploits the death of his parents in the service of a class war. Ever notice how often he stops bank robberies? Or beats up on drug addicts?

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 12 September 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

batman forever = blueprint2
batman returns = the blueprint
batman = reasonable doubt
batman and robin (i havent seen it) = roc la familia (which i quite like actually)
new movie = the black album

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 12 September 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Aronofsky is/was working on a "Year One" movie (which will now probably never get made), and this was WB's "other" Batman project. Then there was the "Batman vs. Superman" movie they were also talking about. (That "Superherohype" site probably has all the details.)

I think Bale may be good; I just hope Nolan (never seen his movies) starts with a fresh aesthetic (no more black body armor/sculpted abs).

― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 12 September 2003 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Why didn't they just cast Michael Keaton in every one?

― Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 12 September 2003 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

s1utsky, why do you dislike Nolan?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 September 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't hate him or anything, I'm just not sure this is a good fit. But we'll see.

Wasn't Aronofsky going to cast Ben Affleck? That would be the worst thing ever. Seriously, I can't imagine a worse movie.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 12 September 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know, given the bleak noir of 80% of the comic book stories, he seems like a decent fit to me.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 September 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

They could make a special mask for his ass chin.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 12 September 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

he seems like a decent fit to me.
Affleck or Bale?

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 12 September 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I think he meant Nolan.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 12 September 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

"insomnia" was basic-cable-level crap.

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 12 September 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

mitch where does vol. 3 fit into things?!

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 September 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I never saw the Nolan version of Insomnia. It looked kinda dreary.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 12 September 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Though I should probably check it out someday, seeing as I love the latter-day works of Al Pacino so much. The original was OK I guess.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 12 September 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

(What is the original Insomnia like?)

I agree with them co.

― David. (Cozen), Friday, 12 September 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

it's a cop ON THE EDGE OF HIS SANITY
he's tormented by a SERIAL KILLER
they are THE FLIP SIDE OF THE SAME COIN
it is set in ALASKA
it is light ALL NIGHT LONG
the cop CANNOT SLEEP

do you SEE?!?!

(sole redeeming feature: Martin Donovan, and he's killed off in the first 20 minutes)

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 12 September 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

everything good about memento, i think, was in its script.

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 12 September 2003 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

also it features nü robin williams, who is actually somewhat like old robin williams, only passed through the self-importance of medium robin williams.

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 12 September 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

They need to go back to Tim Burton.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 12 September 2003 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

s1utsky the latter-day AP is lamentably wasted in Insomnia; amateurist pretty much OTM. It's an r.williams vehicle with AP going "HO-ah i could use a nap" for texture.

The charge that Nolan's affinity for pathology-as-main-character is a schtick seems further borne out by this casting (patrick BATMAN do you see) but it could be good, who knows. I thought his amnesia movie was just the Long Kiss Goodnight with all the fun sucked out of it, but the batman pics could use a little less fun if you ask me.

― jones (actual), Friday, 12 September 2003 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

(What is the original Insomnia like?)

― David. (Cozen), Friday, 12 September 2003 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Martin Donovan should play Batman!!

― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 12 September 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

With Bill Sage as Robin, Thomas Jay Ryan as the Penguin, James Urbaniak as the Riddler, and Parker Posey as Barbara Gordon/Batgirl.

Hal Hartley should be cloned multiple times and those clones should be handed all film franchises.

― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 12 September 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

jess, i don't know. i'd say the animated series but it doesn't really fit and i'm not willing to compromise when it comes to batman: the animated series.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 12 September 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

That guy from Flirt (Hal Hartley) should play Batman! Or at least a baddie.

― David. (Cozen), Friday, 12 September 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Apparantly the Villains will be Ras Al Ghul and Scarecrow, who should both be played by Colin Farrell, just because he's in every fucking movie nowadays.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 12 September 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Ras Al Ghul? Really? That's pretty sweet.

― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 12 September 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

nice to see you back in action jones!

― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 12 September 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Martin Donovan would make a pretty decent Batman.

Bale is just such a prissy little twerp though.

Dude, he know gunkata. Gunkata.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 12 September 2003 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Martin Donovan would be Batman plagued by obsessive self-doubt and logorrhea. Which is not that far off from the Michael Keaton characterization.

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 12 September 2003 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't see Donovan as Batman.

(unless Robert Burke was Robin!)

― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 12 September 2003 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

At least it's not Tom Cruise.

― Kim (Kim), Saturday, 13 September 2003 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Gunkata?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 September 2003 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)

how about Robert Blake as Batman?

― amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 13 September 2003 00:39 (twenty-two years ago)

And Harry Dean Stanton as Robin!

― s1utsky (slutsky), Saturday, 13 September 2003 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)

"most people spend their lives getting out of tense situations -- batman & robin spend their lives getting IN to tense situations"

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Saturday, 13 September 2003 05:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Chris Cooper as Batman! OMG.

― David. (Cozen), Saturday, 13 September 2003 07:36 (twenty-two years ago)

there's a q+a interview extra on the dvd of memento with
your boy nolan and i'll be jiggered if it isn't the most boring, waffly, self absorbed, and pompous interview i ever did see.
he was like whit stillman only blond and rubbish.

― piscesboy, Saturday, 13 September 2003 08:47 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...

http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images3/batman14.jpg

First pictures of Bale as Bruce Wayne. Pfff. Talk about 'Man at C&A'. He looks more like the guy who played Lex Luthor in 'Lois & Clark'.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 9 April 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

this is where I get to say "Bateman is Batman" and assume noone has EVER thought that :)

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Friday, 9 April 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

who's playing The Scoutmaster?

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 9 April 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

harvey firestein

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Ken Watanabe .... Ra's Al Ghul
Michael Caine .... Alfred Pennyworth
Katie Holmes .... Rachel Dodson
Cillian Murphy .... Dr. Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow
rest of cast listed alphabetically
Christian Bale .... Bruce Wayne/Batman
Morgan Freeman .... Lucius Fox
Rutger Hauer
Liam Neeson .... Henri Ducard
Gary Oldman .... Lt. James Gordon

i feel like i've been waiting my whole life to see Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, Gary Oldman and RUTGER MOTHAFUCKIN HAUER in the same movie together.

― Clubber Langston (Adrian Langston), Friday, 9 April 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently Rutger Hauer is playing himself.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 9 April 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

(damn xpost rendered my observational comedy completely unfunny)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 9 April 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

christian bale should always play secondary roles. he doesn't have zee karisma to play batman.

― jesus nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 9 April 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Gary Oldman as Lt. Gordon?

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 9 April 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

gary Oldman could play Katie holmes and it'd be great. and hot, frankly.

― Clubber Langston (Adrian Langston), Friday, 9 April 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Katie Holmes is playing a character named after a real-life comics pro?

― Barima (Barima), Saturday, 10 April 2004 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Hotttman

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Saturday, 10 April 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

donna, pete's was bad enough! bah

gary oldman, like does he just get to choose whatever he thinks is funny

― prima fassy (mwah), Saturday, 10 April 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

from Imdb's trivia section for "Batman Begins" (gawd what a horrible title): "The Batman costume was so tight, it took three squirts of talcom powder to get Christian Bale to fit it."

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 10 April 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

squirt squirt squirt

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 10 April 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe they thought that no one would get "Batman: Year One".

cuz they suck the dilznick.

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Sunday, 11 April 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

So the next Batman movie is based on B:YO?

― Leee O'Gaddy (Leee), Sunday, 11 April 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

baby's day out?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 11 April 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

http://batmanbegins.warnerbros.com/images/batimage1.jpg

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

"no more scenes until somebody FINDS MY DANISH"

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

http://batmanbegins.warnerbros.com/images/batimage2.jpg

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"don't go in there for a while"

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Nolan: "Listen Christian, we're gonna do this scene again. I want you to put more standing up into it."

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

"Okay, your motivation in this scene is...you're a bat. And a man. You're, to use the popular colloquialism, a bat-man."

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"Who am I kidding, I can never get married"

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.tultw.com/pics/wile270.jpg

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

As long as he doesn't sing and dance like he did in Newsies, it should be okay.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

was that coyote meant to symbolise comic disaster?

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Re: the first pic - in all my time following Batman, I have never seen him sit on a table and sulk like someone took away all his wonderful toys.

― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe N. would have done a better job? Nah.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, he must spend a lot of time sitting around in the shadows being bored so that he can be there at the right moment to jump out at the crooks or whomever.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

That's what the Tamagotchi is for.

― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

batman sits like that on rooftops and looks like a gargoyle when he wants to chill he sits in front of all those screens in the comfy office chair in the batcave everyone knows this.

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

do you think the batsuit has a trapdoor?

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

he can pee and poop inside of it astronaut style

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

That's what the Tamagotchi is for.

― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

It's hard to sneak up on the Penguin when you've got a load in your drawers.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

trust me

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

But usually he looks ready for action or on a mission. Up there, it's all "Go to your room for 72 hours, son!"

Buncha x-posts - I thought that was what all the Zen mastery was for!

― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Bale isn't quite getting the hang of playing Bats as "young and energetic", is he? Those slumped shoulders...

― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

have you ever worn a 20-foot-long, kevlar-lined cape? they're heavier than they look.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

trust me

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Bathuck.

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

this is going to be the fucking worst

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 6 May 2004 05:23 (twenty-one years ago)

which, Batman Begins or Bathuck Forever?

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

After the shit they took for the last franchise, and with the climate of the genre so radically different now (Warner Bros/DC has competition in superhero/comic book movies), even if it's bad it's gonna be different bad, and no way is it going to be worse than the last two.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

at the very worst it'll be Daredevil (+cape, -Ben Affleck).

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

That's pretty worst, though. Still, the best sign about this Batman movie (they should stop aliasing it Batman 5 if they have any sense) is the lack of A-list stars as villains.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Liam Neeson, Ken Watanabe? Okay, just L.N. isn't he a-list? At least as A-List as what's-her-nugget-big-feet was when she was Poison Ivy?

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing about Christian Bale is that he's a nice looking guy unless he's all BUFFED UP HUGE AND GI-NORMOUS, in which case he just looks like some generic Hollywood beefcake with a mouse face.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

For the hell of it:

http://img.slate.msn.com/media/1/123125/123050/2076385/2079552/Slide7_midnighter-appolo-ki.jpg

― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Liam Neeson playing a villain? I didn't think Henri Ducard was a bad guy (he's one of the guys who trains Bruce Wayne, isn't he?)

(Watanabe, definitely not A-list.)

Poison Ivy had to be downgraded cause they got the Terminator for Mr Freeze, I figure. Even casting Uma Thurman -- getting someone semi-hot post-Pulp Fiction -- was continuing the "It's the Batman show, with your host Batman!" habit as surely as if they'd cast Tony Randall and Red Buttons.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know, I've still got high hopes. Christopher Nolan hasn't messed up a movie yet, has he?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope it's better than the mess that was the last two Batman movies. I liked the darker nature of the first two, and Keaton. hated Kilmer and Clooney.

― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

A lot of people bitch about Memento, but I think they're mixing up "disappointed reaction to critically overrated film" with the "exclusively commercial film with no aspirations, plot structured to suit the sets and casting, fails even as spectacle" flaws of the last franchise.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought Ducard eventually turned on him. Around Detective #600? Maybe I'm way off.
Watanabe would be A-List if there was any justice though. Maybe this film will get him there, unless it's a big cock-up.
Gary Oldman as Lt. Gordon will probably be an adversarial role for the beginning. THough isn't Oldman old enough by now to play the Commish?

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, I think Ducard does eventually become a dick, I'm just not sure he does in this movie (or whether Neeson will be billed as a villain if he does).

Oldman's gotta be old enough to play him as Commissioner, and I'm hoping they do a good makeup job with him (he's not leathery like Nicholson or Brian Keith, he can get away with playing younger), because it really changes the dynamic if Gordon is more than a little bit older than Bruce Wayne.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Howcome Gordon's aged so much more than Bats? He was pretty young in Year One, but now he's freakin' retired. Meanwhile Bats is tearing through his FOURTH youthful ward right now? Vampiric?

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

It's the stress, man! Batman's got his nightly slugfest to work it out, it keeps him spry and supple.

Year One's not even canon anymore, is it? They changed Catwoman's origins or something. Or I imagined that. (I haven't read Batman regularly since ... uh, I think since Year One came out, in fact. Although I really, really liked Contagion, and made an exception for that.) So God only knows how they explain that. But I really do chalk it up to stress -- Gordon's more burdened than Wayne, and after a long enough time it starts to show.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh wait, I read Year Two and Three, I forgot about them. I kept reading longer than that, then.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Memento rocked. props to a popular film in using Korsakov's syndrome

― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

uh is completely OTM; best use of Trinity and Joey Pants since the first Matrix movie.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I kept reading until about halfway through the first Robin mini-series, but I've lately picked up a few trades and the odd issue, like the "Made of Wood" team-up with the Golden Age Green Lantern last fall in 'Tec. The Robin: Year One is really good as are the Jeph Loeb & Tim Sale minis. I've just read the first vol. of the Knightfall story and I'm not sure if I'll ever finish it. But there's a girl Robin now.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Joey Pantalianisssimofortegrandomambojumbo. Mostly on his Sopranos role, though I found him fab in Memento as Teddy. He's just so perfect in his weasel-like state. Perhaps that's why I never got excited about his show portraying a good cop. I just DIDN'T BELIEVE IT, man! :) (then again, I never saw it.)

― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

BY THE WAY, NOBODY SPOIL SOPRANOS FOR ME FROM SEASON 4 ONWARDS CUZ I HAVEN'T SEEN PAST 3...I NO HAVE HBO ...

― uh (eetface), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I read the Knightfall/Knight's End/whatever stuff just for the sake of completion. I don't know if I liked any of it except Prodigal, when Dick Grayson took over.

... whoa, wait, a girl Robin? The hell happened to Tim? I liked Tim!

uh is completely OTM; best use of Trinity and Joey Pants since the first Matrix movie.

... and still unbeaten, for that matter (except maybe Joey Pants in Sopranos).

(And for the record, I love Memento -- and Following. Insomnia, less so.)

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Tim's dad found him out last month. This month Tim quit to protect all concerned or some shiznit.

― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

... whoa, wait, a girl Robin? The hell happened to Tim? I liked Tim!
His dad thought he was involved with drugs (y'know, sneaking out at night, coming home covered in bruises and stuff) and searched his room only to find the secret panel or whatever. And he made Tim quit being Robin or something. I'm not really following the storyline, but I think the new Robin is Tim's girlfriend, formerly known as Spoiler or something. But I'm pretty sure it's just a temporary thing, though I think it sort of fits with Tim's character as he was originally written (like I say, haven't read much between 1991 and last fall, so I'm not sure how he's changed) that he could walk away from it and have a normal life. He's always seemed much more even-keeled than his mentors.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Sweet crap. Yeah, Spoiler was pretty decent as a supporting character, and it was nice to have a female crimefighter in Gotham who wasn't the drastically inconsistent Huntress. But that's just weird.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a Batgirl now too. I have no idea what her deal is, but she's at issue #50 already.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I caught mention of her, she's like mute or something, introduced during the No Man's Land stuff? Psh.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a new Supergirl now too. Mort Weisinger must be laughing his ass off in heaven.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Newer than the Peter David one, or ... ? (Actually his was cancelled, I think. Man, you look away for a little bit and everything changes.)

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes.

BTW, Hal Jordan's wearing a green ring again soon.

― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a brand new Kara Zor-El, or so she claims, in current Superman/Batman storyline. But Darkseid is involved somehow. And her spacecraft also brought many colours of Kryptonite.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh good golly.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha PAD's Supergirl! I remember having an argument with a RAC* mentalist on Usenet about the art on that book because Gary Frank had the gall to draw Linda as AN ATTRACTIVE WOMAN WHO WORE TIGHT-BUT-COMPLETELY-IN-FASHION SKATER CLOTHING OH THE SEXISM!!! Good times.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

And Firestorm is black.

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

And I've had sex. (which I hadn't when I last bought comic books regularly)

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Geez, Dan, I wish you'd been on rac* when I was reading it, I probably still would be.

I saw a Firestorm poster at the store! I can't believe they're trying to do that one over. Next, I'm sure Grant Morrison has a Blue Devil hardcover waiting for us.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

This summer, someone of "great importance" in the DCU will "die". Their "death" will have "farreaching effects" and "lasting repercussions". It will be a "superhero murder mystery", which has "never been done before".

― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, so long then, Booster Gold.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

My money's on Arsenal, formerly Green Arrow's drug-addled sidekick, Speedy. I have my reasons.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw man, he's been cool in Outsiders, bonding with Dick Grayson and having sex. (Not with Dick Grayson.)

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, EVERYONE'S money's on Arsenal. Except for the dudes betting on Spoiler. I bet Alan Moore's watching this with interest.

― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

So what's the 900 # to vote someone off?

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I know, and he just recovered from a near-fatal shooting. But GA (pere et fils) have been prominently featured in the preview art I've seen, and Identity Crisis is being written by Brad Meltzer, a mystery writer whose sole other comics experience was on GA, and supposedly the mystery involves something that the Sattelite-Era JLA covered up, like the fact that Oliver Queen was neglecting his youthful ward.
The problem with my theory is that none of the Green Arrow people really have secret identities anymore, so I'm probably way off.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Last I heard the Giffen Era Justice League were off to hell or something in I Can't Believe Its Not The Justice League.

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Best title ever.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

It's all been said, lock the thread until there's more Bale to mock.

― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

note: superhero comics talk has been reconvened, more appropriately, here: Okay, so what are the good superhero comics these days?

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I was just gonna mention that :) Sorry, Balies!

(I think I just made that up to mean "Bale fanatics.")

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

bale's bitches!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Tep, when were you there? I might have been around. (I was posting as deX!)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh hell, yes, of course you were. I even knew that, didn't I, since you've mentioned that's who you posted as on ama. I remember the name! I'm not sure how long ago this would have been, and I was never a hugely regular poster. I know I was reading/posting a fair bit when Priest was writing (and after he'd left) Deadpool and Busiek was writing Avengers, because J0anna Dr@per C@rlson bitching about Busiek's reliance on continuity was such a constant theme.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

2000-2001, it looks like, thanks Google Groups (and apparently I ripped some people off for game auctions in 1996!)

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I was still there. I liked Priest a lot; I started reading his books solely because he was so great on the newsgroups.

So, the person bitching about Supergirl was El4yne Wechs1er-Ch4put. Here's the entire nerdy argument.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I like that you punctuated your name.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

YES. Yes. Geez. A professional connection of mine now knows, and can't stand, El4yne. God, fans shouldn't be allowed to marry pros.

Priest was great on the newsgroups, and he and that connection just mentioned are why I started reading Black Panther -- unfortunately I didn't get on the Deadpool wagon until the tail end of his run. I still think he should have been the next Captain America writer, too.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's me asking where the Atom's mass goes!

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

and nobody ever answered?

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone besides El4yne like El4yne (or Rob1n, for that matter)?-

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

PAD, I think (but he had to, right?), and after awhile it seemed there were a number of regulars who -- even though they'd sparred with her -- were used to her enough that it may as well count as liking her.

Lots of people answered the Atom question! Such is the beauty of the internet.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

The Batgirl title was pretty good sometimes!

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Priest really let me down on Deadpool. But as back issues are cheap, I can always go back and reassess.

Now, Nightwing. Why did his book stop being worth buying?

― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Silliest reason to not buy a comic: I never picked up Nightwing because "Bludhaven" sounded like such a ridiculously bad name for a city.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I just read the Darker Shade of Justice Nightwing tpb (thank you public library), and it was pretty good.
But the answer to Barima's question might be that Nightwing's been way cooler in Outsiders.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Winick does a really good job in Outsiders with the whole "this is how guy is when he's trained by Batman and gets all growed up" thing -- Dick Grayson's got a lot of potential for being a really complex, developed character.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

the coolest thing in the DSoJ was the part from the Nightwing Secret Origins or whatever, where he flashes back on his life in a dream sequence guided by Robin, who is revealed at the end to be Jason Todd!

Also, let me recommend again the Robin: Year One.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Jason Todd! The George Lazenby of Robins. I'll look for that (and Robin: YO).

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

(It is really depressing to read back through the Usenet archives and realize exactly how much of a dork I am. Like, I am King Kong of Dorkania.)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

(I feel your pain so well, Dan, I was on the Buffy newsgroup. ARGUING.)

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

(I post on three different, non-ILX comic msg boards, so clearly, while you guys are kings of nerd past, I'm ubernerd for a whole new generation)

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

(not really, I mean I post to those things, but I don't ever really get too involved in any flame wars or anything)

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I posted on a prog-metal board.

*hides*

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I found SEVERAL threads where I attempted to MEDIATE USENET FLAMEWARS. I have been telling bickering internet mentalists that both sides look stupid for at least seven years now.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

(It's not even the nerd thing, it's the arguing thing that gives me the pain. I mean, yeah -- the Buffyverse was always hellaciously inconsistent, which got annoying since it invited close attention so often. But it's nothing to get into an argument about. The bastards should've just agreed with me.)

Oh God, Dan, link one!

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

THE HORROR OF IT ALL

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Dick *is* a really complex, developed character, it's just that his problems are:

Being written by Chuck Dixon, who made him v. capable in running his own city protection game but made him too fallible in fights and detective ability, plus Chuck fell off 4 years in. He put him together with Oracle and also wrote the fantastic Robin: Year 1, plus he continued the tradition of Dick being similar to Batman, but with less obsession and more relateable humanity.

Now being written by Devin Grayson, NW's become some sort of over-emotional flake (moreso than in New Teen Titans), who's only gotten hardcore (but with added Bat-angst) in the current arc. And Oracle dumped him due to his newfound ability to idealize her as the energetic, walking, former Batgirl.

Outsiders is the only place where he doesn't seem to be so hung up on himself that he'll screw up an area of his life/abilities for no good reason.

Ahem...anyway, George Lazenby got far more respect than Jason Todd.

― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

the tradition of Dick being
similar to Batman, but with less obsession and more relateable humanity.

Yeah, he seems to be the way Bruce wishes he could have turned out. I liked the way he was written in the JLA: Obsidian Age story too (even though I thought the characterization of Green Arrow was atrocious).

Dick Grayson and Wally West are probably the two best examples of the immense legacy of Marv Wolfman's run at DC during the 80s. These two former teen sidekicks have managed to evolve into just-sub-iconic stalwarts largely by the grace of seeds planted in the New Teen Titans way long ago.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

"Lord of deXness"!!

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

*hangs head*

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

It took me a long time to get used to calling him Dan. And now he's VengaDan!

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

That Vengabus is taking a ridiculously long time to get here; my legs are fucking tired.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the VengaTransmission conked out in 2000.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

one more reason to Vote Kerry!

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the guys were Vengay

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

And the girls were Venguys too

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Somewhere, Christian Bale is weeping.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

The Dan/dex conundrum, how did it resolve finally...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

In a new superhero fabric: dandex.

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Guaranteed resistant to kryptonite bootyflakes

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

(just to go back on topic for a second)
this is the new Batmobile, very Dark Night Returns:
http://batmanbegins.warnerbros.com/img/5BAS0004.jpg

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

from the front:
http://batmanbegins.warnerbros.com/img/5BAS0030.jpg

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

The deX!/Dan thing ended after I stopped posting to Usenet and started posting here (also when I told people I was getting married).

My God, I have found a link to one of the worst things I have ever written. (Do not read if you are unfamiliar with Maggott. Or if you are familiar with Maggott. Ew.)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost MY GOD NOW I REALLY WANT A BATMOBILE

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

You changed your name when you got married? How very modern-man of you.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Crossing the streams: how could would a Dick Grayson movie be? I don't care if they call him Nightwing or not, just the idea of a movie about Robin all grown up, with Batman given a brief appearance at the most (building on the "Dick is such a potentially great character" stuff we were just talking about). Christian Bale could play him! Well, if not for the Batman movie thing ...

What the fuck is with that Batmobile?

... ACK WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THAT POST!

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been staring at that link Dan posted, and at the link that says "See this message in context", for five minutes now, afraid that if I click on it, Google will blipvert me with the entirety of rec.arts.comics 1997.

El4yne won best RACer one year, by a million votes. This was back when she was still friends with J0h4nna.

haha and Vic Fluro is no fan either

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Worst thing you ever wrote... or BEST thing you ever wrote!

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't even know what to say to that.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread makes me want to go to the comic shop today, and I promised myself I would try to save money so I can take some time off work next month. curses.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 6 May 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Me being nerd shockah!

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Me being Batman-review-buddies with Leee!

Only less gay than that sounds.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually didn't review the TAS DVD, though now I think I oughta!

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I figured you were the long review! (I didn't actually check to see who it was, tho.)

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The one that uses 29 exclamation marks in the title? I've never been prouder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 6 May 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha, no, hit the "see all customer reviews" link :)

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Ahha!

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 6 May 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

ps your review is aces! I'm trying to compose one for the DVD and this is hard stuff!

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 6 May 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks! I should've been more detailed and specific with it really (like actually given a breakdown of all the essays), but this was before the internet was what it is now, especially in terms of humanities academics' presence, so I was sort of rudderless.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

So I stopped at the bad comic store (but conveniently on my way home from work, that's all it has going for it, the out-of-the-way one is awesome!)(but out of the way, like at least an hour and a half) and picked up the second Knightfall thingamajig. And outside, on the street, I ran into a friend, and we're gonna go watch sexy lady wrestling tonight at a sleazy bar. I am Dorkius Maximus.

― Huck, Thursday, 6 May 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

What have you guys done?

(Especially you, Dan)

― Barima (Barima), Friday, 7 May 2004 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

http://batmanbegins.warnerbros.com/img/logo1sm.jpg

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Friday, 7 May 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

From about 50 posts ago (before everyone started showing their buckteeth):

Tep, Priest is writing the current _Captain American / Falcon_ series. Buy 10 copies each month so it doesn't get cancelled.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 7 May 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy crap, I didn't know there was such a thing. I'll look for it!

― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 7 May 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

(Even the brief appearance of Cap in Black Panther was the best treatment of Cap since the height of Mark Gruenwald's run. Oh, that reminds me, back I go to the ILC thread.)

― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 7 May 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

revive, because there's a new batman cartoon coming soon and it looks really col!

― el Huckle-huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.legionsofgotham.org/TheBatmanPoster.jpg

― el Huckle-huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.legionsofgotham.org/THEBATMANgrappling.jpg

Hope that pic works, it's a nice, subtly new animation design.

― Lazer Guided Mellow Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Sort of Manga-Batman, no?
I'll watch it and most probably love it, but its fundamentally pointless since the recentish Batman : The Animated Series cannot be improved upon.

― David Nolan (David N.), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Now that you mention manga, yeah, that's the quality that was eluding my attempts to describe it. Those oversized forearms/feet.

There is however one area of improvement from prior TAS, it is that Catwoman will now be voiced by GINA GERSHON. !!

― Lazer Guided Mellow Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

From something else I read about this, I got the feeling they were going for a Year One sort of feel - Batman is a young, inexperienced Caped Crusader. I dread a teen Batman cartoon....

Which reminds me of the origin of "Smallville", which came from a treatment for a series called "Bruce Wayne" that Tim McCanlies pitched to WB. About Wayne's years after he returned from his travels/training in the Far East etc and befoe he donned the costume. One episode was to feature a young hick from a Kansas town called Clark Kent...

― David Nolan (David N.), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

But Gina Gershon!

(Surely Batman Beyond was the teen Battoon.)

― Lazer Guided Mellow Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but Batman Beyond wasn't even really Batman, was it?

I bow to Gina Gershon. Who voices Bats?

― David Nolan (David N.), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

One 'Rino Romano.' Details in an interview here.

― Lazer Guided Mellow Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

You think they went for Rino Romano and Gina Gershon because they could both conceivably be comic book character names?
I mean, doesn't Gina Gershon sound like the name of Superman's slutty girlfriend?

― David Nolan (David N.), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

You're thinking of Lina Lershon.

― Huck, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.defamer.com/topic/the-degaying-of-the-batman-016190.php

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

"Nolan pored over 65 years of comics and came up with this story: after a long exile, Wayne, now a 25-year-old scion, returns to Gotham City intent on kicking criminal butt. His family's military subcontracting business, Wayne Enterprises, has been seized by shareholders, who've relegated the company's most ambitious designs—and their inventor, Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman)—to the scrapheap. Wayne befriends Fox, using his designs to create an alter ego. And not a moment too soon because, naturally, there's a villain on the loose named the Scarecrow (Cillian Murphy of "28 Days Later"), who's hellbent on poisoning all of Gotham.

...In the movie, the suit is translucent at first: it's a futuristic military design complete with body armor and muscle-recovery devices. Wayne sprays it black to camouflage it."

I don't like this plot. Couldn't he have just made "Iron Man"?

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Monday, 21 June 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to call it "de-Schumachering," which makes it totally forgivable.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 21 June 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

muscle-recovery devices? oy.

― m. (mitchlnw), Monday, 21 June 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

It irks me how movies about superheroes have to turn them into Mechwarriors and emphasize the super-soldier gear, to make it more "believable." I just want Batman in tights and with a really good computer in his basement.

(The Wayne "military subcontracting business" angle really puts me off.)

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Monday, 21 June 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

If they create a new sense of symbolism and metaphor this might be interesting, but yeah if it just becomes James Bond-with-flair than ugh.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 21 June 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

SCARECROW OMG!!!!!!

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I swear when I read that translucent nonsense, it was referring to the Batmobile (Burton's version was referred to as a vibrator or something, which sounded like asshattery to me). Also, Lucisu Fox as an inventor rather than a brilliant financier = horseshit.

A friend of mine has been dropped from his minor duties at the England shoot. They've gone over budget, apparently they're having trouble purchasing the right kind of straw for the Scarecrow outfit.

― Crickets Dance On Tequila Booty (Barima), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Lucisu? Is he Romanian?

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)

That would explain why they got Morgan Freeman to play him.

― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/stlhwk3.gif

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

SPITFIRE YEAH!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

four weeks pass...

Gary Oldman as Lt. Gordon!
http://batmanbegins.warnerbros.com/img/02.jpg

― Huck, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

this movie will be terrible

― nostradamateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

You are so wrong.

― Huck, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

He looks great! (great=extremely Gordonish!)

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

on a related note, Ain't It Cool News reported earlier this week that Jack Black has been cast as Green Lantern. No kidding.

― Huck, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm with Jordan & Huck!

― The Dreaded Rear Admiral (Leee), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

geeks

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

This board will tolerate anti-nerdite remarks. You are now banned. Neep!

― Huck, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

JACK BLACK is the GREEN LANTERN? how does something like that happen?

― m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

http://a.abcnews.com/media/Entertainment/images/AP_JACK_BLACK_031003_NH.jpg

slap a bowl cut on him and dye his hair orange and he'll be perfect for Guy Gardner.

― Huck, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan, I've been meaning to mention that I remember the Usenet action from 98-2001 and I DO remember the deXness!

Any links to new Bat cartoon info? Will it be better than TMNT?

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I AM FAMOUS! (For things like Kitty/Eeny porn!) (sob)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan Perry, lord (deXness!) and master of 1000 slash fictions.

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

As long as you didn't drop any Kitty/Lockheed pr0n on the web, Dang it's all butter.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan's salaciousness is part of the charm.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Even I have my limits, Dave!

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

(haha because you see, it's MUCH WORSE to write an excerpt about a teenaged girl having sex with her pet minidragon than it is to write an excerpt about a teenaged girl having sex with a robotic slug that acts as her teammate's digestive system)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"Kitty, I wanna get salacious with you."

"B-but you're a dragon!"

"All part fo the charm, baby. All part of the charm."

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait a sec - Eeny was one of Maggot's slugs?

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

OH YES

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

OH GOD making a piss Iceman ain't shit compared to MUTANT SLUGS (but my standards might be a bit skewed).

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

http://superherohype.com/gallery/Batman/The_Movie/On_Set/twocars.jpg

― huck, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

The red X is a visual aid to the conversation.

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Dang. It was a photo of two cop cars marked "GPD" which stinks because everybody knows it's GCPD.
but this is cooler:
ihttp://www.dccomics.com/comics/images/July2004/pic_lrgdcpbatman1cvr.jpg

― Huck, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, like that pic. Bet this flick won't hold a candle to the Blade soon-to-be trilogy, though (the same goes for Spidey 1).

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Whatever.

― Huck, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.chud.com/graphics14/balebat.jpg

Lame.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Superawesomecool trailer here!

http://batmanbegins.warnerbros.com/

― Huck, Thursday, 29 July 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. Just watched it at work, with no sound. I like how until the very end of the trailer you have no idea what it's for, it's almost feels like a cross between an refugee movie and the Count of Monte Cristo for a while. Too bad the little kid doesn't look more like Empire of the Sun CB at that age, though.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 29 July 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad you picked up on the Count of Monte Cristo thing too. I got that with the sound on. I always have CMC on the brain anyhow, so I never trust myself. I think that CMC is a much better lit-analogue to Batman than Zorro.

― Huck, Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Were the Burton Batmans as grim 'n' gritty as this looks?

― The Dreaded Rear Admiral (Leee), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

The Burton movies were dark mainly in lighting. Batman was shown as a troubled soul, sure, but the fantastical elements of Burton's style gave the films a definite buoyancy.

― Huck, Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post Dumas novels are all about double identities and dark secrets, it seems. Milady de Winter could be a really cool superhero too, I think, she has that whole vigilante vengeance vibe.
That's what I was trying to put my finger on in the trailer, the realism of the setting.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

We should all go see this movie together.

― Huck, Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not coming cos I'm too busy sulking over that 'whatever' up there *pout, fume, folded arms, stuck-out tongue*!

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

you're asking for another...

― Huck, Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw new Bale-Batsuit photos yesterday and I wasn't feeling it. The cowl looked like it was designed for Ben Affleck and the suit reminds me of Shaq in Steel.

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

WHATEVER!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

PS I know you're sitting at home dressed in an exact replica of Dick Grayson's Robin costume, so don't mess (over me).

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe we should start a new thread where diehard batfiends refust to acknowledge any sort of criticism against this upcoming movie.

― Huck, Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Or we could just retreat to ILC. I will not have the hotness of Cheistian Bale disputed.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

oops Freudian typing slip

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

American Psycho's already confimred the hotness of Chesty Bale for all you ladies anyway.

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 29 July 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Completely Optimistic Batman Begins Anticipation Thread

― Huck, Thursday, 29 July 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Whatever.

― The Dreaded Rear Admiral (Leee), Thursday, 29 July 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, when they going to a not-rubberized costume again? Like ya auld Adam West costume, but not campy?

― The Dreaded Rear Admiral (Leee), Thursday, 29 July 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

When acting and having muskills stop being mutually exclusive.

― Huck, Thursday, 29 July 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

nine months pass...

this movie looks fucking horrible. what the hell? didn't spiderman up the bar for this kind of thing? dull and generic.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 29 April 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Ken Watanabe is clearly playing the role meant for Liam Neeson.

― The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Friday, 29 April 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

remember you said that.

― Huk-L, Friday, 29 April 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

Trekker.

― The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Friday, 29 April 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Galacticat.

― Huk-L, Friday, 29 April 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

HERBIE.

― The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Friday, 29 April 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

The car AND the robot.

― The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Friday, 29 April 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

It's just weird how Henri Ducard looks for more like Ra's than Ra's himself.

― The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Friday, 29 April 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

You think it's a coincidence? I don't want to spoil anything with speculation...but I THINK YOU ARE MAKING A VERY GOOD POINT.

― Huk-L, Friday, 29 April 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

Rocket Robin Hoodlum.

― Huk-L, Friday, 29 April 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

this movie is so so so so so so good. i can't overstate it enough. holy shit. someone give christopher nolan the congressional medal of awesome!

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)

I was gonna say, when I saw the trailer I was *damn* impressed. So it lives up to the promise of that?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:16 (twenty years ago)

it really does. well paced, bale is fantastic. neeson, caine and oldman all excellent. the story is very patient, and it justifies batman pecadillos without seeming at all contrived. definitely the best superhero movie i can recall; it even puts spiderman 2 to shame.

also, it's seriously FUCKING SCARY. i was extremely frightened during much of it -- definitely not one for kids. the seriousness and darkness of it makes me wonder how well it will do despite its excellence.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)

Nice. I admit I hadn't really been following the production much but the trailer really got me interested. Who wrote the script again?

also, it's seriously FUCKING SCARY.

Heh. Good. I like the idea those goth Matt Mahurin promo posters are going to live up to their promise.

(Meantime, having seen the Fantastic Four trailer...eurgh.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:22 (twenty years ago)

Now I'm excited!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:58 (twenty years ago)

ME TOO.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:59 (twenty years ago)

FINALLY A BATMAN THAT CAN RIVAL THE CARTOON.

― Leeeeee (Leee), Friday, 3 June 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

otm, the cartoon was by FAR the best screen version of batman.

i'm hoping that Jams assessment will be congruent with my own! i'm optimistic.

― latebloomer: Pain Don't Hurt (latebloomer), Friday, 3 June 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

I told you so!

― Huk-L, Friday, 3 June 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for that, James. Been looking forward to this for so long, such an awesome cast - Liam Neeson, Gary Oldman, Tom Wilkinson, Morgan Freeman! And MICHAEL CAINE playing Alfred!

How was Bale, though? And Katie Holmes? She seemed a bit of weird choice. Then again, I wouldn't know actually, I've never actually seen anything with her in it.

― Roz (Roz), Friday, 3 June 2005 06:18 (twenty years ago)

how does the costume move?

― Huk-L, Friday, 3 June 2005 06:27 (twenty years ago)

fingers crossed!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 3 June 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

i saw an old short "movietone" film from 1929 that had a singing sister act. one of the sisters looked exactly like katie holmes! it was crazy.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 3 June 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

cool; I thought the trailer was kind of shitty, actually, but mainly because it showed too much of the batmobile which I think is cheesy and dumb looking. but I liked the eerie bits like the glipse of the Scarecrow.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 3 June 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

Anticipatory "Wooooo" here.

― BARMS, Friday, 3 June 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

The frustration!: My son is currently obsessed with Batman, and he knows there's a Batman movie coming out (is it out already? surely not), but I don't know if this is a movie he should see, and I'm trying to explain that to him, but good lord is he persistent. "I like scary movies, dad!", he says, but by "scary movies" he means, like, Spirited Away. Ugh.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

It's out in two weeks. In the intervening time, show him Alien and The Shining and then ask if he wants to see a scary movie. You will find he has a different opinion.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

I had a dream about you, Ned! We were watching this in the theater and your source of superhumas strength had gotten a haircut.

― Leeeeee (Leee), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

yeah, nickalicious, i was thinking about my eight-year-old brother who's obsessed with batman, and i don't think he could handle it. it's seriously freaky.

bale was very funny! they did a great job of showing the duality of bruce wayne/batman, and turned it into something kinda goofy -- way better than the brooding michael keaton. honestly, after seeing this version, i wish they could go back and remake the two burton ones. totally puts them to shame.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

Alien and The Shining are two of the dullest "scary movies" imaginable.

Bale Nudity Quotient?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

there's some bale beefcake, but no bat-rod, morbs, sorry to report. american psycho had more.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

Well, I didn't expect more than American Psycho, just more than Little Women.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

I had a dream about you, Ned! We were watching this in the theater and your source of superhumas strength had gotten a haircut.

Amazing!

Alien and The Shining are two of the dullest "scary movies" imaginable.

My ten year old self would have disagreed with you (and my current self still does).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

Does it obsess much over the death of his parents? Cuz that could be pretty disturbing to the 10 and unders.

― Huk-L, Friday, 3 June 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

Ebert and Roeper are going batshit over this film right now.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Monday, 6 June 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)

but they liked revenge of the shit too

― keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 6 June 2005 01:21 (twenty years ago)

Ebert was otm re: the first four shitty Batman films, though

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Monday, 6 June 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)

the scarecrow's dad works with my mom; is he any good in this?

― fcuss3n, Monday, 6 June 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

he's.... okay. he reminds me a lot of the bookish son in the thin man.

ebert and roeper are right to go nuts over this movie.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Monday, 6 June 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

I just like that bit in the commercial where he's like, "The Bat....man!"

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Monday, 6 June 2005 03:08 (twenty years ago)

like 11 days left?

― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 04:18 (twenty years ago)

I thought the first trailer was really awful but they've gotten increasingly more impressive and now I'm obsessed with seeing this

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 6 June 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

"even better than SpiderMan 2" clarified for me Jams' excessive respect for Roger Ebert.

Calling anything the best superhero movie is a bit like calling "Dick" the best Watergate comedy. My faves would be Tetsuo: The Iron Man, Superman 2, and Unbreakable (even with that ending).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 June 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

I get to see this tonight, hopefully it will be interesting.

― Leon hearts Crazy Frog (Ex Leon), Monday, 6 June 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

David Denby disses in the New Yorker:

http://www.newyorker.com/critics/cinema/articles/050613crci_cinema

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 6 June 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

i don't even know where to start making fun of that review

― jones (actual), Monday, 6 June 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

The original Burton Batman had Nicholson and the production design, nothing else -- which was enough for me. The second had nothing but Michelle Pfeiffer.

I'm assuming Jams' silence on Katie Holmes means she's as decorative and annoying as Kim Basinger was.

Since I grew up on the Adam West Batman, the funnier the better. (tho I have some vivid comic-book memories of R'as al Ghul)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 June 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

denby seems to be forgetting that the jokes in the burton movies were all incredibly unfunny

― jones (actual), Monday, 6 June 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

I get to see this tonight, hopefully it will be interesting.

Bah, I R jealous. Then again I'm seeing Kraftwerk tonight, so there is that. Now imagine if the two were combined.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 June 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

That review reads like Denby's just been having a bad year and is sick of trudging into theaters just to see one unsatisfying pile of shit after another. Which come to think of it I am too (I've only seen like 3 movies this year (one of them was Steamboy, even)) and I remember thinking at the BEGINNING of 2005 while clicking through nearly every trailer on the Apple site that this year had NOTHING to offer. I hate the Burton films personally but after Revenge Of The Sith Michael Keaton as... fuck it, ANYTHING-MAN seems like an endless source of amusement.

We got free HBO for 3 months with the new cable service and I finally got to see HarryPotter:POA + XMEN2, albeit on the small screen with loads of hiss; they still wiped the floor with a years' worth of attempts. Why I didn't see THOSE in the theater, TWICE EACH, as opposed to going to the third installements of shit like SW and MATRIX is perhaps exactly the problem here. I apologize to everyone.

― TOMBOT, Monday, 6 June 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

Denby: (What do Eastern martial arts have to do with Batman? Don’t ask.)

Uh...

― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

I hate the Burton films personally

At the time I thought they were cool but from a distance, god lord how trudgy and stodgy. Can't ever see myself going back (and I like Burton...half the time. The other half of the time he's dreadful.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 June 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

Excepting Ed Wood and Edward Scissorhands--oh yeah, and Beetlejuice!--, I've yet to see a Burton film that didn't, well, fail. They're great to see, but not so great to watch.

― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Dude, please. You are ignoring Pee Wee's Big Adventure and I can never trust you again.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 June 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

i just rewatched batman (the first burton one) last night for the first time in years. it's.....ok. really jack nicholson and the production design are the only things going for it.

― latebloomer: Pain Don't Hurt (latebloomer), Monday, 6 June 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Oh, see, I always forget about that one, because it's so brightly coloured. Add that to the list.

― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

And, yeah, latebloomer OTM, 90s (including '89) Batman movies were villain showcases, with Batman as an incidental figure there to punch the villain and kiss the girl.

― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

Burton films are not so great to HEAR! "Big Fish" might actually be tolerable with the sound off. (I so dig "Mars Attacks!" tho.)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 June 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

The only issues I've ever had with the Burton movies were the deployment of the source material (Commish Gordon - wasted, Batman - kills, fight scenes - average, Alfred and Bruce - underused, at least in the first, Batman - not in it enough, so to speak), but I still can't fathom everyone's distaste here.

(Huck, the UK Bat-anthology comic here have also picked up on the Ducard/Al Ghul thing in their recent piece on the movie)

― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Monday, 6 June 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

Batman is, in my opinion, the worst film Tim Burton's ever made. Planet of the Apes had more going for it. Everyone else OTM about Nicholson and design, and Nicholson really only great because putting the Joker's makeup on him makes his every-movie acting "style" of the last 25 years actually make some kind of sense.

A reviewer who actually praises that film on anything other than these most technical values is a reviewer that I cannot trust. The only way a statement like "Batman was great" makes sense is if the person likes ALL the Batman films and thinks they are ALL great, which is kind of indicitive of a completely different personality problem, I suppose.

XPOST villain showcases yes except the only people that were any good at it were Michelle Pfeiffer and maybe Nicholson. I mean wtf is Uma Thurman even attempting to do in Batman Forever or Batman Returns or whichever one of those it was. Don't get me started on Jim Carrey's turn in this film series. I was really close to never forgiving him.

― Allyzay flies casual (allyzay), Monday, 6 June 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

In fact, I might NOT have really truly forgiven Jim Carrey.

― Allyzay flies casual (allyzay), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

Is he worth forgiving at all?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

What's interesting about Ducard, if I remember correctly, was actually created by Sam Hamm, who "wrote" the first Burtman movie (I put "wrote" in scarequotes because even at age 12, I didn't feel like there was much of a story) and introduced in Detective Comics 598-600, and has since become an accepted part of Batman mythos.

xpost, and it takes a helluva a bad movie for Tommy Lee Jones to stand next to Jim Carrey and still give of the suck vibes!

― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't Robin Williams originally supposed to be the Riddler? I think we actually got off easy.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

YOU WANNA GET NUTS?!?!?! C'MON!!! LET'S GET NUTS!!!!

― michael keaton, Monday, 6 June 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Jim Carrey is a very talented man, but was apparently given some kind of powerful overdose of trucker speed while filming that movie.

― Allyzay flies casual (allyzay), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

I am in Batman.

http://www.smokemag.com/0397/celeb.jpg

― robert wuhl, Monday, 6 June 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

WAIT WAIT, Christian Bale is only 29???

― Allyzay flies casual (allyzay), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

katie holmes is fine. they do a good job of making her something more than the damsel in distress, but she's still just a boring girl with a weird mouth.

i think denby is depressed again. last year about this time he really started hitting his stride and was easily outclassing lane. but something must've happened, cuz he's turned so negative and insular again. must be the porn.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

It seems to me that outside the one with Pfeiffer/DeVito, Batman villainy is all about playing up the absolute most stereotypical aspects of some famous actor's persona, which is generally horrifyingly annoying. If they want to do that sort of thing but be entertaining (a la Nicholson), not be unwatchably awful (a la Schwarzenegger), they need to cast, like, Al Pacino, ASAP.

Robin Williams as the Riddler, keeping this all in mind, is like the most awful thing anyone's ever said. That's kind of like the cinematic equivalent of getting bayonetted in the nuts.

― Allyzay flies casual (allyzay), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Mike Myers as Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum! (if Shumacher was still making these movies)

― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

yeah batman really set the bar for nicholson's subsequent "JACK!!" coasting style – if anybody else showed up their job and gave a performance like that they'd be fired on the spot

― jones (actual), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

in fact everybody try it right now and report back

― jones (actual), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Mike Myers as anything these days is like getting bayonetted in the nuts, no need for Shumacher's help.

― Allyzay flies casual (allyzay), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

Jim Carrey utterly amused me as the Riddler. Add Val Kilmer having the best possible Batlips, and ignoring how awful Tommy Lee Jones was and the presence of Chris O'Donnell, as good as you can expect from Joel Schumacher.

I think it was One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest that set the bar for Nicholson's subsequent "JACK!!" coasting style.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

Haha xpost--a better game would be not to single out Nicholson but assign various posters different "older, formerly great actors who always play cartoonish, awful versions of themselves now" and see who gets fired FIRST.

Though honestly my money would go on whoever is assigned Nicholson. That shit is annoying as hell.

xpost again, Morbius OTM, Nicholson has been doing that for a long freaking time.

― Allyzay flies casual (allyzay), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

problem with the Batman movies is the first two were incredibly dull and inert and filled with absolutely boring-ass characters, aside from Jack Nicholson, who wasn't even that good. I liked it when I was 13, I guess, but I tried watching it a couple of years ago and realized it was just a bad movie. Michelle Pfeiffer is the best thing about the first four movies.

for comparison's sake, fucking Dick Tracy is far better than those Batman movies and, despite Warren Beatty not being a name-checked fanboy visionary, it's better to look at.

I think Nicholson has dropped a couple of good performances in the past few years but most of the time he's just coasting on the eyebrows and coke-addled grin.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Christian Bale is doing the voice of Howl in Howl's Moving Castle! Both of these movies come out in the next 2 weeks!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Wow, the Howl's release is that soon? Must make plans. Must hope for Japanese-language screening around here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

batman returns is AWFUL! there are few characters more disgusting than devito's penguin (or, honestly, devito as devito!), and yet we're subjected to him for like 18 hours!

burton is so overrated. i love several of his movies, but he's made so many awful ones. he and wes anderson post-rushmore make movies the same way: they build them not around plot or characters, but set design.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

Ok, maybe its just childhood fondness but I'd still take Batman over Dick Tracy.

I really like the "imitate older shticky actors at work" idea. I'd try to do Mickey Rourke today (only requires me to skulk, smirk a lot and occasionally close-talk with female coworkers) but I shaved and took a shower this morning.

― miccio (miccio), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

Incidentally, Warren Beatty is currently trying to retain the rights to make another Dick Tracy movie. Also, I don't think Dick Tracy has any fanboys.

― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Yeah but Michelle Pfeiffer.

err xpost

― Allyzay flies casual (allyzay), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Also, how strange is a movie where Christopher Walken is a bad guy but not a psycho, just a poofy-haired businessman?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

yeah I'm sorry both Burton Batman movies get 'this is not right for a McDonalds tie-in movie' points.

― miccio (miccio), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

That's not strange at all Ned, have you ever seen the Rundown?

― Allyzay flies casual (allyzay), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Yes, Batman Returns will always hold a special place in my pants for featuring Michelle Pfeiffer in PVC when I was 15.

― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Walken is KIng Poof. "Details" magazine ran an amusing photo spread of his hair over the years.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

That's not strange at all Ned, have you ever seen the Rundown?

I admit I have not. But how poofy was the hair there?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

and Michelle Pfeiffer was great! I couldn't believe she was Oscar-nominated for some well-meaning non-entity indie film that year and not for Catwoman.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

It's Christopher Walken. How poofy do you think it was?

― Allyzay flies casual (allyzay), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

http://membres.lycos.fr/cineteuf/batman_shreck001.JPG

"I'll be in Pulp Fiction in two years."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

The Rundown is actually really, really entertaining. The Rock, Stiffler, and Walken are all great in it.

― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

I thought the Rundown was a chore after the two initial Rock-with-no-guns bar fights, personally. or at least after the monkeyhump stuff.

― miccio (miccio), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Oh, maybe I should add that my brother and I were drinking Root Beer Schnapps in the theatre when we saw The Rundown...so that may have informed my opinion.

― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

yeah if my intoxication level was going up as the entertainment factor was going down I may not have noticed.

― miccio (miccio), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

Uma Thurman completely pwned "Batman and Robin". Much like Brittany Murphy in "Sin City", she knew she was in an all-out camp-o-rama where the more scenery you chew, the better your scene sells. Ahnuld should have been comedy gold as well but it appears he blew his acting was with "True Lies" and "The Last Action Hero"; you could have replaced him with a deck chair and gotten about the same impact. George Clooney was ABSOLUTELY WRONG for Batman. Bruce Wayne is many things but "smug" is not one of them.

(xpost Christopher Walken was far and away the best Batman villain ever. Also, MICHELLE PFEIFFER!!!)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

Kraftwerk tonight, so there is that. Now imagine if the two were combined.

"Batcave Dummies."

― Leeeeee (Leee), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

while Clooney was horrible, I'll always be glad they used him because of the scene when Robin tells him "Alfred is sick?" and Clooney retorts "I know" and makes AT LEAST THREE facial expressions in a row before the editor wakes up and cuts to the next scene. Dude was adrift, god knows Schumacher wasn't helping and his utter confusion over how to do the character is recorded for posterity.

― miccio (miccio), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Geez Louise, Dick Tracy and Planet of the Apes. WTF. I'm going to make myself miserable by watching Return of the Sith and Monster-In-Law back to back.

― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

At least Monster-In-Law has Wanda Sykes.

― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I unironically love the motorcycle racing scene in "Batman and Robin". So awesome.

On the other hand: "I got you!" "NO! I got you..." BLARGH PUKE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE SMASH THEM WITH PINS OF SODOMY

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Zesty.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

All it would have taken is for the batnipples to shoot lasers to redeem both movies entirely.

― miccio (miccio), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

Ludatits Batnipples!

― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Nipples shooting laser would redeem ANY movie.

(xpost I wasn't going to go there since there's no longer an attendant picture but HAHAHAHAHAHA!)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/27350111.html#cutid1

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 16:46 (seventeen years ago)

why

― Jordan, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 16:51 (seventeen years ago)

gr8!

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

four months pass...

Bale Went Ballistic

Posted Feb 2nd 2009 2:58PM by TMZ Staff

WARNING: THIS AUDIO CONTAINS GRAPHIC LANGUAGE

You may remember that Christian Bale went nuts on the set of "Terminator Salvation," a few months back, threatening to stop production and beat some serious ass.

The incident was audiotaped, and it's amazing. It happened on the set, after a director of photography accidentally ruined a scene by walking onto the set. Bale lost it, screaming, yelling and threatening to quit if the bosses didn't fire the dude.

Film execs sent the tape to the insurance company that insured the film in case Bale bailed.

Audio (NSFW): http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/020209_christianbale.mp3

― youcangoyourownway, Monday, 2 February 2009 21:54 (seventeen years ago)

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/27350111.html#cutid1

still lolling at this

― HI DERE, Monday, 2 February 2009 21:56 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, thats amazing

― youcangoyourownway, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:29 (seventeen years ago)

now only if some genius could sync that mp3 with some video footage of kermit

― as much dandelion as you can put in there (latebloomer), Monday, 2 February 2009 23:57 (seventeen years ago)

so apparently bale's got rage issues!

― as much dandelion as you can put in there (latebloomer), Monday, 2 February 2009 23:59 (seventeen years ago)

what a dick

― as much dandelion as you can put in there (latebloomer), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:40 (seventeen years ago)

"a director of photography"? if this was _the_ DOP of a big budget film he's screaming at then this is quite a tantrum. also, i got from the recording that they guy hadn't walked into the shot. he had checked a light out of shot which had distracted bale.

― caek, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:47 (seventeen years ago)

jesus christ is he talking to THE DP of the movie??

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:49 (seventeen years ago)

he was in bale's eyeline or something

― as much dandelion as you can put in there (latebloomer), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:53 (seventeen years ago)

i hope he makes him look fugly for the rest of the movie

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:54 (seventeen years ago)

kinda hilarious hearing his accent go in and out

― as much dandelion as you can put in there (latebloomer), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:57 (seventeen years ago)

what a fanny

― cozwn, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:00 (seventeen years ago)

Cinematography by Shane Hurlbut

― sean gramophone, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:00 (seventeen years ago)

This guy is off the rails. Didn't he physically threaten his mother last year in some hotel altercation?

― sam500, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:01 (seventeen years ago)

No, the thing with his mother and sister wasn't actually his fault, from what I read.

His accent is vile.

― caek, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:04 (seventeen years ago)

this is the guy he was screaming at: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0403397/

― caek, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:06 (seventeen years ago)

if i were him i'd hurl all over his but next time he was doing a tough shot

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:08 (seventeen years ago)

Shane Hurlbut grew up on Goose Lane Road on a 250-acre farm in Aurora, New York. Before moving to Boston to pursue a degree in film from Emerson College, he spent many hours tapping maple trees and produced mouth-watering Grade A maple syrup.

― the maximum value that ZS obtains given its constraint is 8 (Z S), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:08 (seventeen years ago)

I love the "McG, do you have anything to say about this?" Just hearing Christian Bale say "McG" is gold for reasons I can't even articulate.

― Pancakes Hussein Obama (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:09 (seventeen years ago)

gotta love the director pussing out and letting the primadonna star run the show

― as much dandelion as you can put in there (latebloomer), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:11 (seventeen years ago)

lol @ this happening on the set of terminator: salvation

― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:13 (seventeen years ago)

i dont get ppl who have temper problems like this, like... can't you just talk to a dude reasonably without yelling? the mix of apologetic and asshole was especially deft there and i bet they talked it out afterward. im sure id be on edge if i was stuck doing terminator: salvation too

― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:15 (seventeen years ago)

― cozwn, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:16 (seventeen years ago)

I think this is acceptable behavior in Hollywood. My roommate is an assistant and dudes he works for and tells stories about are all stereotypes fueled by rageahol.

― mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:17 (seventeen years ago)

Wait...being rich and famous makes people feel self-centered and over-entitled?

Maybe I'm rich and famous after all!

― Dear Tacos, how are you? I am fine. The weather is nice. I miss yo (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:18 (seventeen years ago)

the david o russell thing is still the best of these

― caek, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:20 (seventeen years ago)

without video i worry this is a viral

― caek, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:20 (seventeen years ago)

i think a lot of the people who come to hollywood view the stakes of fame and fortune as particularly high and feel they have to be that type in order to achieve them. also a lot of them are deluded and incredibly stupid and assholes to begin with.

― steve goldberg variations (omar little), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:21 (seventeen years ago)

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:25 (seventeen years ago)

yeah this is great

― eman, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 02:02 (seventeen years ago)

"you and me we're done professionally" is the new "you'll never work in this town again"

― eman, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 02:10 (seventeen years ago)

The inevitable techno mashup:

― Huey in Bristol (Huey in Melbourne), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:27 (seventeen years ago)

Oh yeah.

― Huey in Bristol (Huey in Melbourne), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:28 (seventeen years ago)

So what, he is an actor, and I would rather have a good movie with a jerky actor that I am never going to meet then a nice guy who makes me waste my money on a terrible movie. I think it is cool that he takes his job serious and proves why he is so good. Unless your hanging out with him, then who cares. Miles Davis was prick but I am not going to stop listening because of it.

Posted by: whatever | February 02, 2009 at 02:57 PM

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:36 (seventeen years ago)

haha id like to see him try pulling this on michael mann's set.

― display name fatigue (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:48 (seventeen years ago)

Hollywood, where is our Sam Peckinpah???

― Pancakes Hussein Obama (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 12:03 (seventeen years ago)

miles davis was prick

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 14:02 (seventeen years ago)

wait, Bale is doing a Terminator movie? doesn't he know better? Is this supposed to be a "serious reboot" or something?

― akm, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 15:29 (seventeen years ago)

come anticipate and then bitch about Terminator Salvation

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 15:30 (seventeen years ago)

Ingrid, it's only a McG movie

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 15:34 (seventeen years ago)

The accent thing is weird. I wonder if he talks like that all of the time, or only if he's screaming at people.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 15:36 (seventeen years ago)

i didn't realize he was welsh until i heard this and looked it up on wiki. thought he was yank from day 1

― now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 15:45 (seventeen years ago)

McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG McG

― ledge, Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:58 PM

― eman, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 16:51 (seventeen years ago)

In 2006, a remake of the cult comedy hit Revenge of the Nerds was being planned for a release on 2007 with a budget of $12.5 million. McG was set to produce along with Adam Brody and filming was set to begin at Emory University. However, after reveiwing the script, university officials backed out two weeks before filming, citing it to be "too bawdy".

― SS Peer Bork (gnarly sceptre), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 16:56 (seventeen years ago)

Didn't c/p nearly enough there, I should've managed a screen's worth. xp.

― talk me down off the (ledge), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 16:57 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/06/03/mcg-denies-t4-spoilers-apologizes-for-ridiculous-name/

― n00bian princess (some dude), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:00 (seventeen years ago)

McG sounds like an mid nineties band name, like Smashmouth.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:01 (seventeen years ago)

you do realize, of course, that McG rose to fame directing videos for Smashmouth and Sugar Ray?

― n00bian princess (some dude), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:06 (seventeen years ago)

I was trying to forget.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:07 (seventeen years ago)

"fame"

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:07 (seventeen years ago)

sorry, "prominence," you fuckwit

― n00bian princess (some dude), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

haha id like to see him try pulling this on michael mann's set.

Bale's in Public Enemies, so he had his chance...

― Eazy, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:15 (seventeen years ago)

All of this gives me more appreciate for his kinda heatless Batman.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:19 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/baleflag

― welcome to the own zone population you (cankles), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:46 (seventeen years ago)

haha id like to see him try pulling this on michael mann's set.

Bale's in Public Enemies, so he had his chance...

― Eazy, Tuesday, February 3, 2009 6:15 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is why i brought it up!

― display name fatigue (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:51 (seventeen years ago)

with Johnny Depp in the background, smirking.

― Disco/Very (Roz), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:53 (seventeen years ago)

You mock, but when the chips are down, isn't this really the man you want defending you from the Director of Photography?

― M.V., Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:56 (seventeen years ago)

there's got to be an old Batman villain called that

― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:58 (seventeen years ago)

(probably a henchman for Film Freak)

― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:00 (seventeen years ago)

michael mann seems like he'd probably be an asshole

― steve goldberg variations (omar little), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:26 (seventeen years ago)

arent there a million stories about how mann is this unrelenting a-hole on-set?

― welcome to the own zone population you (cankles), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:28 (seventeen years ago)

the dude nearly ran over one of my co-workers in the parking garage, he didn't see her because he drives so goddamned fast

― steve goldberg variations (omar little), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:31 (seventeen years ago)

he's apparently a hard-on to all and sundry, but he gets results.

― display name fatigue (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:37 (seventeen years ago)

^^^

― steve goldberg variations (omar little), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:39 (seventeen years ago)

"Ah-ta-ta-ta-da"

That is how people really walk around

― i'm shy (Abbott), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:40 (seventeen years ago)

― DavidM, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 20:06 (seventeen years ago)

^^ documentary

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

"Ah-ta-ta-ta-da"

That is how people really walk around

http://img.tfd.com/wn/4D/5FA4E-prance.gif

― The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 20:30 (seventeen years ago)

It gets indirectly better:

After an excerpt is played, Letterman asks Blagojevich to clarify what was happening on the tape, because the ex-governor has claimed his conversations were taken out of context.
"I was afraid you were gonna have some of those other tapes, where I sound like Christian Bale," Blagojevich replies with a smile.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

If the DP had said to Bale, "Don't tase me, bro!" we'd have had a perfect storm of memes. It might have set off the singularity or something.

― Pancakes Hussein Obama (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 23:59 (seventeen years ago)

that clip just made me upset. i don't understand people. actors.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 02:45 (seventeen years ago)

http://chud.com/articles/content_images/5/puppybale.jpg

― as much dandelion as you can put in there (latebloomer), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 02:57 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.ugo.com/movies/christian-bale-soundboard/

― rent, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 03:01 (seventeen years ago)

lol No #2 is great

― rent, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 03:03 (seventeen years ago)

STAY OFF THE FUCKING SET MAN

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 03:06 (seventeen years ago)

I AIN'T THE ONE WALKING

HE NEEDS TO STOP WALKING

I don't know why this has become so hilarious to me now.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 03:09 (seventeen years ago)

My dad's name is Bruce. If I ever get into it over the phone with him again, I'm gonna have the Christian Bale Soundboard as my sidekick.

― the maximum value that ZS obtains given its constraint is 8 (Z S), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 03:12 (seventeen years ago)

"AAAAHH.. you don't fucking understand. that's what that is"

― eman, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 03:20 (seventeen years ago)

"i'm not asking i'm TELLING you"

― eman, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 03:21 (seventeen years ago)

― as much dandelion as you can put in there (latebloomer), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 03:26 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.orangeglitter.com/ontd/baleout.gif

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 03:29 (seventeen years ago)

lol

― eman, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 03:31 (seventeen years ago)

"...i was...looking at the light..."

"OHHH GOOOOD FOR YOUU!!!! AND HOW WAS IT?!?!?? I HOPE IT WAS FUCKING GOOD BECOS IT'S USELESS NOW ISN'T IT. FFFFUCK'S SAKE MAN YOU'RE AMATEUR"

this whole clip is fucking hilarious, it get's funnier the more i think of it

― mark cl, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 04:05 (seventeen years ago)

let's NOT take a FUCKING MINUTE let's GO AGAIN and let's not have YOU FUCKING WALKING IN

― mark cl, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 04:07 (seventeen years ago)

i really thought insulting someone by calling them an amateur was something that only happened in er, the movies.

― Disco/Very (Roz), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 04:08 (seventeen years ago)

i was disappointed by the clip, it sounded like kinda actor-outrage-by-rote. after the first outburst especially, it's like he's trying to stay in character as hissy-fitting prima donna. doesn't this shit go on all the time on movie sets?

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 04:53 (seventeen years ago)

Hasn't Gordon Ramsey basically made a career of doing this? But to underlings and noobs.

― DavidM, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:14 (seventeen years ago)

there is nothing about this that isn't hysterical

― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:19 (seventeen years ago)

cant believe it hasnt been polled yet

― max, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:21 (seventeen years ago)

i think i would vote for "you and i are done professionally"

― max, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:21 (seventeen years ago)

mostly because of the implication that they might still be able to hang out and be buds

― max, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:21 (seventeen years ago)

i don't understand people. actors.

which?

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:22 (seventeen years ago)

I have to repost this because it is awesome

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― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:23 (seventeen years ago)

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb52/The_Playlist/movies_music/bale.gif

― nate woolls, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:25 (seventeen years ago)

This is all viral marketing for the documentary feature about this clip on the BluRay version of the DVD, you realize.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:25 (seventeen years ago)

(Not that I'm complaining.)

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

oops

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb52/The_Playlist/movies_music/bale.gif

― nate woolls, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

i wonder if bryce was looking around awkwardly

― Gukbe, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:28 (seventeen years ago)

well this has effectively killed my gf's #1 celebrity crush, one she's harbored since Newsies loooool. we were wondering if mr. bale was experiencing some 'roid rage. i mean he was fit in AP, but he is ripped tha fuck up in the Batmens.

― now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:29 (seventeen years ago)

I know yelling at the DP isn't the same as a star yelling at the director, but here's what Robert Downey, Jr. said last month:

The best directors are the ones you can have the heated, fucked up, gear-grinding moments with. Because that way it's not passive-aggressive, you're not nurturing a resentment. Guy Ritchie was like, "Mate, I gotta tell you it's so toxic, you're such a cunt, everyone feels it." I was like, "Really? And you're like Rain Man, you dumb motherfucker." And we had it out. Then my wife was there, and she's like, things are getting really edgy. But then you let it blow off, and the next day you go, that was yeseterday, and here we are.

Having an actor who gives himself entirely over to his emotions in the present might be just the actor you want to star in a movie.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:31 (seventeen years ago)

well this has effectively killed my gf's #1 celebrity crush, one she's harbored since Newsies loooool.

Me too. :-( It's pretty awesomely hysterical though.

― Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:36 (seventeen years ago)

well she still has RD Jr, Paul Rudd ...and Jeff Goldblum. yeah.

― now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:37 (seventeen years ago)

There's a threesome.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:38 (seventeen years ago)

IT'S FUCKING DISTRACTING.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:41 (seventeen years ago)

Jeff Goldblum would be very distracting in a threesome, probably.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:42 (seventeen years ago)

And not in a good way. Not that this is something I should be spending any time thinking or speculating about.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:43 (seventeen years ago)

Depends on whether or not he's already become Brundlefly.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:43 (seventeen years ago)

i bet he would talk a lot.

― now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:44 (seventeen years ago)

He would! I hate people who talk a lot. IT'S FUCKING DISTRACTING, as Bat(e)man would say.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:45 (seventeen years ago)

Fucking distractions.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:47 (seventeen years ago)

Em loves Bale (not as fanciable object, but as actor in fillums she likes and guy she respects for being quite private about personal life in face of OK magazine etc), and she's OK with this, thinks it's funny even. As she says, he was a child actor, and they're always fucked-up, plus he's pretty method (The Machinist!), probably loaded on steroids for the beefy roles, and spends half his working life playing emotional fuck-up sci-fi / comicbook anti-heroes - of course he's (haha) batshit.

― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:51 (seventeen years ago)

Guy Ritchie was like, "Mate, I gotta tell you it's so toxic, you're such a cunt, everyone feels it." I was like, "Really? And you're like Rain Man, you dumb motherfucker."

RDJ otm though.

― special guest stars mark bronson, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 16:21 (seventeen years ago)

He's an asshole, but then he says the guy's done it before? Anger issues yes, but maybe the DP... Ah fuck it, why am I defending CB, I hate the dude.

plus he's pretty method

Oh woop. He went on a diet and suddenly the guy's a method actor.

He's not batshit, he's got anger issues. So do many people but then we're not actors. heh

― Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 16:44 (seventeen years ago)

have said all of these things to fellow call centre operatives in previous job, i think

― Redknapp out (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 16:48 (seventeen years ago)

on the "celebrities...at their worst" scale, this is somewhere between orson welles ("who the hell are you, anyway?") and paul anka. nowhere close to buddy rich territory.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 16:53 (seventeen years ago)

Hahah, I was thinking about this would be destined for a future entry by default.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 16:54 (seventeen years ago)

IT'S FUCKING DISTRACTING.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, February 4, 2009 10:41 AM

thats one of my favorite parts because of the way he stretches out "disTRAAAACtiiiiiiiing"

― eman, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 17:40 (seventeen years ago)

I wish Bale the actor channelled this level of aggression more often.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 17:41 (seventeen years ago)

i wish bale the actor was good in movies

― Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 17:45 (seventeen years ago)

GIMME A FUCKING ANSWER

― eman, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 17:47 (seventeen years ago)

i have to say, i always thought he seemed incredibly arrogant onscreen, even when he wasn't like supposed to be. he just seemed full of himself.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 17:48 (seventeen years ago)

he really needs to be told off.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 17:51 (seventeen years ago)

I've listened to that "Bale Flag" song about ten times now.

― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 17:51 (seventeen years ago)

fuckin ass

― eman, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 17:52 (seventeen years ago)

this was on local news at the bar last night & they cut in scenes from american psycho over the audio i was l-ing my ao

― and what, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 17:52 (seventeen years ago)

Someone please run the audio through MS Songsmith?

― snoball, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 17:56 (seventeen years ago)

You’re a nice guy, you’re a nice guy, but that won’t fucking cut it when you’re bullshitting and fucking around like this on set.

― steve goldberg variations (omar little), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 17:59 (seventeen years ago)

xpost

― eman, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:00 (seventeen years ago)

No! NO! Don't shut me up!

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:02 (seventeen years ago)

Love the sing-songy way he says "why the fuck is Shane walking in there? What is he doing there?". Thought I would be bored of this by now. Nope.

― DavidM, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:09 (seventeen years ago)

it's like was he high?

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:11 (seventeen years ago)

he really needs to be told off.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, February 4, 2009 12:51 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

seems like from what ive heard the attitude amongst the crew in these situations and perhaps in general is to regard the talent as someone elses spoiled children - speak softly be calm roll eyes whatever - cause obv they can cause u professional trouble and basically theyre just irredeemable assholes and not worth it anyway

btw love this clip wish there was video so hard

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:11 (seventeen years ago)

Ah, you don't fuckin' understand what it's like working with actors, that's what that is. THAT'S WHAT THAT IS, MAN, I'M TELLIN' YOU. I'm not asking, I'm telling you! You wouldn't have done that otherwise!

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:12 (seventeen years ago)

it's true, that is what it seems like. i'm so glad it was caught on tape tho. now everyone can see what a shitparty he is.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

let not take a fucking minute let's GO AGAIN

― eman, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

(xxxxxxxpost) excellent!

― snoball, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, you might get it; he doesn't fuckin' get it.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

i was iming w/a friend a couple hours after this broke and he was all someone need to splice this w/the bill oreilly meltdown - of course some utuber had already done so

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

the thing that bugs me about this personally, tho, is that in the past, when female actresses were reputed to behave this way, i was all "ooh glamorous actress goes ballistic" and not so much "what a bitch i really hate her."

double-standard, i think...

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:16 (seventeen years ago)

"Really? And you're like Rain Man, you dumb motherfucker."

^^^can't decide it this is a great or terrible comeback

― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:17 (seventeen years ago)

fame fucks people up more than anything else this side of meth imo

― steve goldberg variations (omar little), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:18 (seventeen years ago)

I kind of love it. xp

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:18 (seventeen years ago)

its pretty awful imo especially since downey jr is telling the story and has prob already shaped it up to come off better than it did originally

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:18 (seventeen years ago)

it makes him sound like he doesnt know abt life he just knows abt movies

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:20 (seventeen years ago)

Mostly I just like the idea of people verbally abusing Guy Ritchie.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:21 (seventeen years ago)

i think it depends on whether or not guy ritchie is really like rain man

― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:21 (seventeen years ago)

those are both valid points imo

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:23 (seventeen years ago)

i've heard guy ritchie was some kind of borderline aspie

― steve goldberg variations (omar little), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:23 (seventeen years ago)

david mamet wrote a whole thing abt how aspieness is essential to being a successful movie making person and speculated that the high rates of the disorder amongst jews explained their domination of hollywood fwiw

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:25 (seventeen years ago)

aspie rube -> aspie heeb?

― eman, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:32 (seventeen years ago)

This whole thing almost reads better than sounds better now.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:32 (seventeen years ago)

AT TA DA TA DA still killing me.

― Disco/Very (Roz), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:35 (seventeen years ago)

― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:46 (seventeen years ago)

<3 kinski

― eman, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:50 (seventeen years ago)

"was a real problem for the Indians, ho had their own very different way of resolving problems"

― snoball, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:51 (seventeen years ago)

lol later narrator herzog claims the indian chief offered to have kinski killed

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:52 (seventeen years ago)

christian, I worked with klaus kinski, I knew klaus kinski, klaus kinski was a friend of mine. christian, you're no klaus kinski

― velko, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:00 (seventeen years ago)

having now watched other interviews, I didn't realise that Bale defaulted to talking in this Dutch Australian New Yorker accent

hearing that whenever you talk would make anyone cranky!!!

― Glans Kafka (MPx4A), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:12 (seventeen years ago)

I thought he left Wales when he was older and I think I was secretly hoping he sounded like Tom Jones

― Glans Kafka (MPx4A), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:13 (seventeen years ago)

ok yeah London

― Glans Kafka (MPx4A), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:16 (seventeen years ago)

He forgot "fail"

― Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:29 (seventeen years ago)

now my officemates are listening to this for the first time

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:55 (seventeen years ago)

"i love a band called the manic street preachers and every time I play it my wife says it sounds like night ranger" HAYO

― da croupier, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 21:17 (seventeen years ago)

there's so much in life.

― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 21:48 (seventeen years ago)

this is kind of embarrassing but i just watched that bill o'reilly thing for the 1st time... what a dummy!

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:53 (seventeen years ago)

I don't know who Bill O'Reilly is, 'cause I'm a Britisher), but I've just watched the clip and what a dickhead! I love the way he says "FUCK IT!!!", gets up to leave, can't because the mic cable is still attached, sits back down, and the floor manager calmly counts him back in again!

― snoball, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:59 (seventeen years ago)

WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!

― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:00 (seventeen years ago)

There needs to be a O'Reilly/Bale mashup...

BO: Play us out? I don't even know what that means.
CB: What don't you fucking understand?!

― snoball, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:04 (seventeen years ago)

no epic freakout just lols

― steve goldberg variations (omar little), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:04 (seventeen years ago)

YOU GOT ANY FUCKING IDEA ABOUT, HEY, IT'S FUCKING DISTRACTING?

― special guest stars mark bronson, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:08 (seventeen years ago)

There needs to be a O'Reilly/Bale mashup...

― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:10 (seventeen years ago)

ya i was gonna say ;)

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:19 (seventeen years ago)

hahaha

― snoball, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:22 (seventeen years ago)

serious irl lolz @ rodney stanger

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

― caek, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:38 (seventeen years ago)

love this ^

― caek, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:38 (seventeen years ago)

lol @ pursed lipped reaction to 33 feet

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:45 (seventeen years ago)

love that movie! a friend of mine was really into it to an unhealthy degree for a while

― goole, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:55 (seventeen years ago)

quietly saying "god damn your fucking eyes"

― caek, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:56 (seventeen years ago)

i think we need a catch-all thread for celebrity meltdowns. like check out ed harris here get a little psycho

― eman, Thursday, 5 February 2009 04:01 (seventeen years ago)

sometimes i really don't know what to do with actors

― Surmounter, Thursday, 5 February 2009 04:05 (seventeen years ago)

the seriousness

― Surmounter, Thursday, 5 February 2009 04:05 (seventeen years ago)

I hate to do the "actors are just like us" thing but sometimes they really are. dudes like bale are like the obnoxious, high-strung Type A personalities found near the top of the hierarchy at large law firms. it's not entirely surprising that the same types of people are successful in hollywood. The only difference is that actors' meltdowns get recorded for posterity and lulz.

CB's accent is really bizarre though - I'm watching that one upthread from '02 where he sounds kind of typically British but then he sounds completely different in his dark knight interviews and again completely different in the T3 clip.

― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 5 February 2009 04:50 (seventeen years ago)

you're right but some actors are just NOT like us

― Surmounter, Thursday, 5 February 2009 05:01 (seventeen years ago)

then again i spend like half my free time deriving intense gratification from watching actors do their thing onscreen/stage, so i should just hush.

― Surmounter, Thursday, 5 February 2009 05:08 (seventeen years ago)

My first experience working on a set as part of a crew was saved by the fact that the prima donna lead actor didn't have any sort of fame at all until I had already made my rookie mistakes. The first day of filming it was a really lean eight man crew just filming a few pick-up shots, and I walked right into the actor's line of vision and just stared at him - judging his facial expressions and reactions as he did take after take.

I was politely told by a grip not to ever be in their line of vision just staring at them, which obviously made sense once I actually thought about how awful and distracting it was. Within a few weeks the actor was almost nearly famous because his first big movie came out and, what was before just a general sense of hostility you picked up from him on the set, now became threats towards the crew for not moving their belongings away from his belongings, etc etc. He became a total baby because now he felt like his bad behavior would be tolerated. Had I made those stupid mistakes when he was famous I don't want to think about what the actor might have tried to get away with in the way of a tantrum towards me.

― Cunga, Thursday, 5 February 2009 05:32 (seventeen years ago)

Much better that Bale did this than be distracted and cause a $200 million summer tentpole to bomb.

― Eazy, Thursday, 5 February 2009 05:36 (seventeen years ago)

Is he taking over for Edward Furlong? I'd really rather watch this movie with Furlong than with an actor playing the typical GI Joe action figure.

― Cunga, Thursday, 5 February 2009 05:47 (seventeen years ago)

technically, he's taking over from Nick Stahl. have you seen Furlong lately though? Dude's a bit of a mess. This was taken two years ago but i'm not sure if he's looking any better now: http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2946/furlongmd4.jpg

― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 5 February 2009 06:00 (seventeen years ago)

Ah, I see. But then who better to fight this technologically corrupted future of ours than a neckbeard? He may not sell posters but it'll be a victory for verisimilitude. I still take it nobody would see that movie, alas.

― Cunga, Thursday, 5 February 2009 06:12 (seventeen years ago)

Christian Apologetics

― post-bloghouse, or maybe post-Merriweather-post-core (latebloomer), Thursday, 5 February 2009 08:31 (seventeen years ago)

ok i hadn't realized that "bryce" in the clip is actually bryce dallas howard but that makes this about ten times funnier and i don't know why.

― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 5 February 2009 08:45 (seventeen years ago)

Harry Knowles holding himself to a high moral standard by not leaking those clips and tarnishing Bale's rep. Of course, no such qualms about leaking reviews of unfinished, and possibly outmoded, film scripts in the midst of rewrites and letting anybody so much as comment on the dailies of films still in production - both petty habits having the ability to ruin a film's "buzz" months, if not years, before release. Only when he has nothing to lose will he "take a stand against tarnishing an actor's legacy" right before he goes back to killing expectations for a movie because he's going to leak someone's review of a script that wasn't even being used in the first place.

― Cunga, Thursday, 5 February 2009 09:01 (seventeen years ago)

The scene in question, was a very emotional and tough scene between Christian Bale and Bryce Howard. A scene that required soul bearing and a deep level of immersive concentration.

Hahaha...and I thought they were making Terminator Salvation.

― The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 5 February 2009 09:25 (seventeen years ago)

Just imqgine this shit happening at your workplace. I wonder what excuse he came up with when he went berserk in the summer. The guy is JUST an actor but also has a serious anger problem. Sure the dude had done it before but is that a pass to go all mental? FFS

― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:00 (seventeen years ago)

yeah this is getting me really riled up. how dare he.

― special guest stars mark bronson, Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:05 (seventeen years ago)

― p-noid (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 5 February 2009 11:53 (seventeen years ago)

― snoball, Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:32 (seventeen years ago)

lol @ ed harris / pretentious moderator dynamic

u wanna see something guy ill show u something WATCH ME HIT THIS TABLE SEE I WILL THROW A GLASSSS

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:14 (seventeen years ago)

It's so inevitable it's scary, the fucking direction we're going in.

Look what happens when Hollywood makes movies like Glengarry Glen Ross and Pulp Fiction.

It's only a matter of time before some loose nut yells up a room full of 30 people.

― Eazy, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:31 (seventeen years ago)

(In truth, though, last fall I yelled up a room full of about 25 people. Felt great. The guy I yelled at was being unprofessional, rude, was holding up a tight schedule, and deserved it. And it felt great. And it let me to my job on a crucial day instead of having things simmer. And he did a good job after that, instead of the bad job he was doing before that.)

― Eazy, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:37 (seventeen years ago)

it's apparent you guys prefer this shit to actual cinema

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:38 (seventeen years ago)

haaahh

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:39 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.aintitcool.com/files/HARRYvalentine.gif

― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:43 (seventeen years ago)

tbh the bale freakout seems at least somewhat in the range of a normal person just losing it and behaving poorly - oreilly/o russell are def on some weirdo narcissist shit

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:44 (seventeen years ago)

― cozwn, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:45 (seventeen years ago)

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/61931/thumbs/s-ETTA-JAMES-large.jpg

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:51 (seventeen years ago)

― eman, Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:16 (seventeen years ago)

― eman, Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

― eman, Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:28 (seventeen years ago)

tbh the bale freakout seems at least somewhat in the range of a normal person just losing it and behaving poorly - oreilly/o russell are def on some weirdo narcissist shit

^this

― double bird strike (gabbneb), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:30 (seventeen years ago)

This honestly does get funnier every time I hear it.

"I was checking the light."

"Oh GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD FOR YOU! AND HOW WAS IT?"

I really want him to say, "Great, thanks!"

― Pancakes Hussein Obama (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:36 (seventeen years ago)

"Really great, thanks for asking. And how is it getting paid a huge stack of money to pretend to be a soldier from the future?"

― snoball, Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:46 (seventeen years ago)

lol berman complaint same as bale

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:51 (seventeen years ago)

This honestly does get funnier every time I hear it.

"I was checking the light."

"Oh GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD FOR YOU! AND HOW WAS IT?"

I really want him to say, "Great, thanks!"

bahahahahahaha

― Surmounter, Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:54 (seventeen years ago)

how have we not polled this?

(ohhhhhh goooooood ftw.)

― special guest stars mark bronson, Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:55 (seventeen years ago)

"a ta da ta da" ftw

― eman, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:34 (seventeen years ago)

bale freakout seems at least somewhat in the range of a normal person just losing it

Apparently, BBC Breakfast time broadcast the uncensored version by accident this morning.

― Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2009 10:24 (seventeen years ago)

It's like a perfect storm of mash up possibilities

― snoball, Friday, 6 February 2009 10:38 (seventeen years ago)

Thread of Christian Bale Mash-up Concepts

― special guest stars mark bronson, Friday, 6 February 2009 10:40 (seventeen years ago)

apparently his dad wasm arriad to gloria steinem. awesome.

Bale and Gloria did not always see eye to eye. 'Gloria liked to pontificate and was going on about something for ages at their table one night,' Cheung says.

'Christian suddenly let out a huge sigh and said, "For God's sake woman, shut up."'

― Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:03 (seventeen years ago)

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7874161.stm

― Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:12 (seventeen years ago)

BBC 'sorry' over Bale swear gaffe

The BBC has apologised after an unedited clip of the leaked tape of Christian Bale swearing was played on BBC One's Breakfast programme.
"A technical error led to us broadcasting an unacceptable swear word," said a spokeswoman.
Presenters Charlie Stayt and Susanna Reid gasped as the unbleeped clip of the Batman star's tirade went out.
A clearly stunned Reid said: "An enormous apology, that was definitely supposed to be edited."
Seconds earlier, Stayt had introduced the clip, saying "people may want to block their ears" because he expected it to be heavily bleeped.
The tape, of star Bale berating a colleague for ruining a shot on the set of Terminator Salvation, was leaked earlier this week.

― Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:13 (seventeen years ago)

OHHH GOOOOOOOD

― talk me down off the (ledge), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:14 (seventeen years ago)

fucking amateurs, man.

― special guest stars mark bronson, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:15 (seventeen years ago)

Seriously, the BBC and me are done professionally.

― The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:52 (seventeen years ago)

thread needs the vid of the irish pundits talking tht ronan posted once

― ^once had to actually listen to this post in my head (cozwn), Friday, 6 February 2009 12:23 (seventeen years ago)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20090206/en_movies_eo/98799

Los Angeles (E! Online) – There are at least two men with whom Christian Bale is not professionally done: Los Angeles DJs Kevin and Bean.

After a week of unrelenting press coverage in the wake of his leaked onset rant, Bale unexpectedly chose to break his silence over the incident on KROQ radio's popular morning show, taking full responsibility for his Terminator: Salvation explosion.

"It's been a miserable week for me," Bale told hosts Kevin Ryder and Gene "Bean" Baxter. "Listen, I know I have a potty mouth; everybody knows this now.

"The thing that I really want to stress is I have no confusion whatsoever. I was out of order beyond belief. I was way out of order. I acted like a punk. I regret that.

"There is nobody that has heard that tape that's been hit harder by it than me. I make no excuses for it. It is unexcusable. I hope that that is absolutely clear."

As for what brought on the much-played rant, Bale said that the day's shooting was particularly intense and that "I put so much into what I do and care so much about it and sometimes the enthusiasm just goes awry.

"I'm embarrassed by it. I ask everybody to sit down and ask themselves, have they ever had a bad day and have they ever lost their temper and really regretted it immensely."

Not that he doesn't understand the public's insatiable desire to hear—and mock and remix—the audio.

"Feel free to make fun of me at my expense; I deserve it completely."

Bale, who could easily have chosen any worldwide media to deliver his mea culpa, said he selected KROQ because had been listening to the morning show's mockery and incessant playing of his rant all week.

"I spoke with you guys a few years back; you seem like good guys and I wanted to talk with you about it," he said, before adding that the DJs' take on his rant made him laugh. "Believe me, this is no punk."

Kevin and Bean, meanwhile, had a slightly more humbling take on why they were chosen.

"You can talk to a guy who tries to high-five a blind dude or you can talk to Kevin and Bean; those are your options in the morning," they said.

(For those doubting the validity of the scoop, Bale's rep Jennifer Allen has confirmed that it was the actor, and not the station's dead-on Bale impersonator, Ralph Garman.)

As for any residual hard feelings between Bale and the object of his on-set rant, the actor said it ceased being an issue shortly after the outburst.

"We have resolved this completely...I have no intention of getting anyone fired. There is no problem whatsoever."

― latebloomer, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:11 (seventeen years ago)

Shane Hurlbut's side of the story.

(Yeah, it goes to cracked.com, but I lol'ed. It's Friday, sue me.)

― Nebuchadnezzar Strychnine (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

lol

― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:22 (seventeen years ago)

worst part of the apology: The actor insisted he does not have an oversized ego.

"Please, if anybody ever sees that I really am thinking that I'm better than anybody else, stick a fork in my backside, turn me over, I will be done. That is not me."

He said he has not yet adjusted to "this notion of being a movie star."

"I'm an actor and I don't quite know how to handle this movie star thing," he said.

― Surmounter, Saturday, 7 February 2009 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

Sometimes the Enthusiasm Just Goes Awry

Ooh, that is such a fantastic phrase!

― Joe, Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:29 (seventeen years ago)

http://myqueue.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/aguirre1.jpg

― Joe, Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:32 (seventeen years ago)

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/061020/132524__head_l.jpg

― Joe, Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:33 (seventeen years ago)

Be more fun had he called into the Adam Corolla show

― kingfish, Sunday, 8 February 2009 08:18 (seventeen years ago)

Bale also used Friday's call to come to the defense of swimmer Michael Phelps, who has come under fire after a photo surfaced in a British tabloid showing the Olympian smoking a bong.

“Please, Michael Phelps, swim in the next Olympics,” Bale said. “This guy has a God given talent. So he’s smoked a bit of weed, plenty of our presidents have.”

Phelps has since apologized for acting “in a youthful and inappropriate way,” and Bale hopes the incident will not impede the swimmer’s career.

“Everybody makes mistakes. Bounce back from it,” Bale said. “Do not waste that Godlike talent. Swim in the next Olympics, please.”

― eman, Sunday, 8 February 2009 08:59 (seventeen years ago)

Please, Michael Phelps, swim in the next Olympics

― my heigl-lohan girl (who's also latina and half-jewish) (cankles), Sunday, 8 February 2009 18:07 (seventeen years ago)

the inevitable tracy (jordan) morgan parody

― jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 February 2009 18:12 (seventeen years ago)

ugh bale just needs to shutup now. if i have to hear anything else from him about God, morals or his lack of conceit, i might puke.

― Surmounter, Sunday, 8 February 2009 19:11 (seventeen years ago)

did terminator 3 really happen then?

― piscesx, Sunday, 8 February 2009 19:17 (seventeen years ago)

all a dream.

― Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Sunday, 8 February 2009 19:17 (seventeen years ago)

nightmare.

― Surmounter, Sunday, 8 February 2009 19:21 (seventeen years ago)

I think I like this DP. He worked on a few John Stockwell films, and JS films pretty much always look great! Also, Anton Yelchin is in this film, so duh i'm seeing it

― Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Sunday, 8 February 2009 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

― DavidM, Monday, 16 February 2009 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

nine months pass...

Hypnotic:

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1710/43402059.gif

― James Mitchell, Saturday, 21 November 2009 20:51 (sixteen years ago)

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