NaNoWriMo 2003

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We're a little into October, figure it's time for the thread.

I'm in, and I'm rebooting/revamping/redoing an old abandoned story from a few years back which I've since cannibalized everything from except a couple of the ideas. I'll have to write at least part of a final paper and grade a few hundred freshmen papers in the midst of this, and I'll be away from computers for eight days while I'm in New Orleans, so this'll be ... interesting. But I'll get it done.

The girlfriend's in, so that helps, and a friend of ours who'll also be at the New Orleans wedding is in, which means at least three of us will be scribbling at the reception.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 6 October 2003 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Hurray!

I'm going to spend this month, as I know you are also Tep, doing notes and getting a decent structure happening so I at least have something to work with/hang onto if I flounder at any point in November. I'm still wavering nervously over the topic I've picked, but at this late stage I don't want to start changing my mind again.

Looking forwards to it though. I feel like the literary equivalent of an impatient driver at the blocks, revvin' my engine.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 6 October 2003 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Yowsa. Still pondering the details but the basic idea for me is set.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 October 2003 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

This looks really interesting and maybe just the motivation that I need. I won't have a day job in November and the only thing on my plate is moving out of my apartment and finding a new place to live - I can probably work that in somehow. Good luck y'all.

calstars (calstars), Monday, 6 October 2003 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

this project always reminds me of BiMonSciFiCon from the simpsons

robin (robin), Monday, 6 October 2003 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, I've just signed up too. I'll make it even more interesting for me by posting what I've written in installments on assm, so that I'll have even more incentive to finish it up.

Pray for me, everyone.

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Monday, 6 October 2003 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't think I'll have time to do this now. Oh well.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 6 October 2003 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Explanation, please. I would be up for some sort of writer's motivational tool. You could all save my life.

adaml (adaml), Monday, 6 October 2003 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, where do you go to sign up? I didn't know there was any kind of official sign-up thing. Sarah's got all these notes for her book, I still don't really have an idea yet. Well, I've got an idea, but I'm not sure if I want to use it. Guess I better get to work.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 6 October 2003 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.nanowrimo.org/

jel -- (jel), Monday, 6 October 2003 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, I probably should've included a link in the first post there; thanks jel :)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 6 October 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, I'm in.

adaml (adaml), Monday, 6 October 2003 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I will not be doing this because I really want to try my hand at freelancing an article!

teeny (teeny), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm in, too.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I still don't "get it".

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

You write a novel in November. 50,000 words or more.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah but why?

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean I guess I am saying there is no actual contest involved and also it's not like anyone's going to help you out or read bits of it or whatever, you still are just writing by yourself and giving it to your friends to edit if you even do that, what exactly is the point?

I ask this every single year, btw.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

To write a novel ...

... what's the point of ever writing a novel?

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

(Or I guess I don't get what you're not getting.)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Why:

A) Sign up for their website
B) Announce it to everyone
C) Write specifically Nov 1-Nov 30?

Basically I'm asking what people are meant to get out of rushing out a shitty novel and submitting it to a website where no one will read it or help you with it or anything, you just get an online sticker to put on your blog.

I'm not knocking anyone DOING it, I want to know why! Every year I get like this horrified confused reaction to the question!

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know, Ally. I totally understand what you're saying.

It's a motivational thing for me. When you're as blocked as I am, you'll try anything. But to each his own, right?

adaml (adaml), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It's supposed to be the final excuse you need to sit down and write the novel you've fantasized about for the past 10 years.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

they should have this for screenplays!!

ugh

Vic (Vic), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

You get a novel out of it! I mean, forget the website etc.; it's all just an excuse to get yourself motivated to actually finish a novel. Well, it's a couple of things -- a) it's that, b) it's something you can bring up to annoying college kids going on about how great their writing would be if they ever got around to doing it (I know of more than a few people who haven't brought up "their writing" again since getting a couple thousand words into November and quitting).

You get a certain degree of moral support out of it; not people reading your novel, necessarily, and no, no one's going to help you with it per se, but they can't anyway. You get understanding -- you can blow everyone off and just write with much less complaint than at other times of the year, believe me.

Mostly you get a sense of accomplishment, and if you pay attention to what you're doing and don't just write aliens coming in to blow up the love triangle you don't know what to do with, for the sake of hitting 50K, you learn enough about novel-writing to figure out if it's something you really want to do again.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)


they should have this for screenplays!!

ugh

I hear you, Vic.

adaml (adaml), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Tep pretty much called it. For me, for a long time I wasn't sure I could write a novel or carry an extended narrative. The fact that I could and that people reacted positively to it I regard as a specific boon.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 October 2003 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned you wrote a novel?! [Want someone to film it??]

Vic (Vic), Monday, 6 October 2003 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh, two.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 October 2003 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

?? do u have a link to an introduction or anything, like on some webpage

Vic (Vic), Monday, 6 October 2003 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll just send you them tonight, easier that way. The links currently up for them are for rough drafts.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 October 2003 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

coolio!

Vic (Vic), Monday, 6 October 2003 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

You get a certain degree of moral support out of it; not people reading your novel, necessarily, and no, no one's going to help you with it per se, but they can't anyway. You get understanding -- you can blow everyone off and just write with much less complaint than at other times of the year, believe me.

True enough, I suppose. Though I can never remember to enter the competition myself, it's always interesting to read what mates have spent so much time agonising over---then give them further validation when you're done.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 6 October 2003 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I just signed up. Thanks for reminding me. I need a deadline to accomplish anything and now I guess I have it.

BrianB, Monday, 6 October 2003 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

What Tep and Ned said :) And what Brian just said there too - deadlines are a great help, for me anyway. As I'm not a paid writer (well 98% not paid) I never have any structure motivating me.

Why do this? Its like why climb everest? Because its there. No one cares if I finish this or not or its even readable - except me. And that self-discipline is something I need a lot more of.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 6 October 2003 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm all signed up and I'm excited. :) Also, our new laptop (which I hope we'll be buying tonight) won't hurt.

To me, writing a novel just always sounded like a neat thing to do. When I'm 80 I'll be able to say I wrote a novel at some point. I don't know. I love to read, but I'm getting really tired of a lot of the plot lines. I am interested in romantic comedies, but it's hard for me to find ones that seem geared towards me in particular. It's the same reason I started playing music. I needed something more for myself, something that spoke to me. So, basically, I hope to write a book I'd want to read.

I think the point of having it all in one month is to force yourself to get words out on paper. That's probably the hardest part. You can always go back and edit and do re-writes. It's getting that word count out there so that you can have something to work with that's difficult. I've tried writing stories a few times, but I usually ended up just staring at the computer screen for a long time and then getting bored. I hope I can actually push myself to reach some sort of closure this time.

Who knows, maybe some day I'll be sittin' at home, eating bon-bons, cat in lap, writing romance novels. And it will all start next month. Whoopee.

Sarah MCLUsky (coco), Thursday, 9 October 2003 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

*considers that this entails writing 1500+ words a day*

adaml (adaml), Thursday, 9 October 2003 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Nonsense, nordicskillz! I'm sure you'll have huge brainstorms, far exceed your daily quotas, and even have some days off. That's my plan anyway.

So how much of a plotline does everyone here have going? I had fun reading through some of the NaNoWriMo forums, but it's more fun discussing it with my fellow ILXors as I feel I sort of know some of you.

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 9 October 2003 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I have a couple of old film script ideas that I'm gluing together for the novel, more character sketches than anything else. I have no idea how I'm going to structure this or end it or anything. I am an awful procrastinator, and I want my story to have a really solid foundation. No more "floating narratives" for me.

adaml (adaml), Thursday, 9 October 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm restarting an old story from scratch that I'd never figured out an ending for, and ditching all the bits that would've led up to the original ending anyway; pretty much just keeping some of the basic setting concepts. So, right now -- not much figured out by way of plot. I've been sick; I brainstormed a bit today at lunch, and am getting enough of a handle on it that I'm not too worried.

1666 words a day (if I remember right) is not as hard as it might sound. If you can write it, dialogue can make things go quicker.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 10 October 2003 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

oh dear

adaml (adaml), Friday, 10 October 2003 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I decided to very slightly cheat(ish), and take the basic bones of a short story I wrote ages ago, make that character just one of a whole story, and turn it into a novel. I've drawn up this sort of flowchart thingy to visualise what I want to do, but it'll be about 10 chapters - one on each characters viewoint of the story. Rather Tarantinoesque I suppose, been done before etc etc but it gives me a solid structure to work within, which is more than I usually have.

I must say Tep, some of your "what I'm doing" tips on LJ have been a great help too.

I just need to lead up to this with some reasearch, as the core idea Ive come up with has some psychological and theoretical things I need to know more about.

Or maybe I could just talk shit. Who knows.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 10 October 2003 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Where are these Tep Tips, Trayce?

adaml (adaml), Friday, 10 October 2003 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I'll leave that to him to divulge ;)

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 10 October 2003 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, I wish I had the time to do this in November.

s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 10 October 2003 05:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, I wish I had the imagination to do this. I could not even comprehend sitting down to write a novel. I love the idea of it & good luck to you all that are going to do it. I just oculdn't think of a good enough story that would be long enough. How on earth do you start?

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 10 October 2003 07:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I really, really would like to do this. It would be a great kick in the seat of my pants to get me over my writers' blot. BUT! Christ? Why November? The month that looks set to be my busiest yet?

Writing 1500 words a day? Christ, that's easy. That's nothing. I could do that in the bath. When I was writing, I used to be able to bang out 10,000 words on a good day. Hah! So if I could get 5 days solid work, then I'd have a novel. Maybe I should do it. I'll think about it at the weekend and maybe sign up on Monday.

kate (kate), Friday, 10 October 2003 08:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I just signed up. I've got loads on anyway so an extra 1500 words isn't going to hurt anyway. Could be interesting.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 10 October 2003 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Dope. I'm basically going to use a very vague idea that I've had in my head for like two years and expand on it. I had a minor epiphany this morning regarding how the novel will start, which is good, because it gives me some solid ground to begin with. Alright. And now we have a new laptop to write on.

NA (Nick A.), Friday, 10 October 2003 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I can paste my tips, but don't think I'm trying to sound condescending or anything. They were initially addressed to a friend who'd asked for advice. Bit lengthy:

1) You don't need all THAT much planning. It's hard for me to gauge: mine was about Jesus. I pretty much knew the tentpoles[a], and I knew how it ended. Figure out the clock -- I should've put that entry into memories, but the clock of a story is the thing that has to happen in order for the story to end (and likewise, once it happens, the story is over except for wrapping up, and wrapping up should be quick without being rushed): the clock of Saint of Daybreak is Bishop figuring out what happened to him, and getting Nicky and Leah off his back. The clock of Die Hard is Bruce Willis defeating the terrorists (or more to the point, getting himself and his wife to safety).

Figure out what the clock is pretty soon into the story, if not ahead of time -- that way, any time you're stuck, just ask yourself, okay, I'm thirty miles from the clock right now, how do I move towards it?

[a] Tentpoles are probably obvious, but: don't think about plot as an inevitable progression, exactly -- yeah, there's the clock, but there are lots of ways of getting there, depending on what happens in the vast expanse of story. Think of plot as a collection of events that occur to lead up to the clock: the major ones -- or the fixed, inevitable ones, if you want to think of them that way -- are tentpoles. They hold everything up. You're always moving towards at least one -- and the stuff you're writing right now doesn't have to lead to the next one, necessarily, but the things you set in action can't ignore that next one, either.

Tentpoles in Die Hard: Bruce Willis evades the terrorists when they first take everyone hostage; terrorists become aware of Bruce Willis; BW makes contact with outside world via Twinkiecop; FBI becomes involved. That last one is an inevitable one, pretty much: in the world this story takes place in, the FBI necessarily gets involved in things like this, and so that's an external tentpole -- it isn't something that the other characters deliberately cause (although we quickly find out Hans's plans depend on it, but the point is no one in the story calls the FBI up and tells them to come over), but it affects everything. The others sound inevitable, but only because they define the story so well: if you stop thinking of Die Hard as a fait accompli, and think of the story as "an estranged husband who's a cop on another coast has to protect himself and his wife from clever crooks posing as terrorists," there's no reason why Bruce Willis would have to evade the terrorists initially, nor be separated from his wife, nor involve the outside world ... etc.

2) Dialogue fills up space quicker than action or description do, and still moves the story forward and develops character. Choose a story that puts the characters around each other as much as possible -- if I remember right (I have it right next to me, but I don't think I need to flip through to check), mine was basically all dialogue scenes with only one action scene, and then the expository epilogue.

Dialogue does so much of your work for you. Mind you, I don't mean your whole story should be in quotation marks -- dialogue scenes still need to have some kind of physical action going on, and plot in the sense that what people are saying needs to matter and needs to create and reflect conflict -- but it writes fast, and the pages fill up, and it's easier to let a dialogue scene go on longer than you'd originally intended than it is to try to beef up an action scene.

(Action doesn't have to mean vampires and guns, of course.)

3) It's 1666 words a day, on average, which means if you write 2000 words a day you have, what, five days off. It's even better if you can write a couple hundred words on those "days off" -- you'd be surprised how quickly you can write 200 words, if that's all you're writing that day.

4) The main thing you want to figure out before you start is where you need to start. Again, with mine, I was doing Jesus: but I didn't start with the birth, or the infancy, or the "lost years" ... I started with Jesus leaving John the Baptist's camp. That gave me pretty much exactly as much story as I needed -- but putting that aside, it set things up so that my story wasn't about Jesus's life, it was about Jesus's work. His baptism of/by John is when he sets out on his own, and that's ultimately what leads to his crucifixion. Figure out where your story needs to start in order for the clock to start ticking either right away, or in the first three thousand words, or to have been ticking from the start (in Bishop, the clock's ticking from the start, you just don't know what it is until the end of chapter one.)

5) If you do it in just November, it'll be over before you know it. Two months is a long time. One month, when you've got a wedding and Thanksgiving, goes quick. Next thing you know, you've written a novel.

6) I did it when I was sick! My gallbladder had gone kaput and I didn't even know it for months. I was in pain and not sleeping! If I could do it, you can do it.

(I also did 90% of my research as I wrote, but I didn't have many other committments, and most of them were things I could let slide; this year, I can't do that, and so I'm putting things together now by rewriting an old story from scratch ... probably. Still haven't decided for sure if I'm doing that or Space Robot.)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 10 October 2003 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

(the "you don't need that much planning" wasn't dismissing planning but was countering her worry that she'd need months to plan it in order to write it in 30 days.)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 10 October 2003 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I read on the forums (or maybe it was here?) that sometimes it's best not to have everything worked out TOO much ahead of time. If you already know exactly how everything will lead from Point A to Point B, then you might get too bored with the story to finish it. Exploring different options as you go along can add excitement and you can always change things later.

Of course, I'm just talking shit. I read that somewhere, I've never written a novel before.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 10 October 2003 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Tep is your novel on-line? It sounds cool.

Sam (chirombo), Friday, 10 October 2003 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Not planning too much ahead has always proven to be to my advantage -- it means that as I'm writing a sidetrack or new conversation suggests itself that proves to be just plain perfect! :-)

Ack, I never sent Vic those earlier novels. :-( Must do that before I leave today.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 October 2003 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Tep is your novel on-line? It sounds cool.

Only for sale, unfortunately; http://www.cafepress.com/kingdomnovel -- overpriced, but it's self-published and print-on-demand, so I didn't have much control over that.

And yeah, the overplanning -> boredom thing is on the money, in my experience. I know there are authors who claim to plan everything out in advance, but I'm not sure I believe them.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 10 October 2003 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I just clicked your link, Tep, and was shocked to read in the description that this historical fiction account of Jesus includes RAPING. Ha ha. It really says RAPPING.

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 10 October 2003 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, I probably should've gone with raping, though!

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 10 October 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Sarah has a bright future as a literary editor!

teeny (teeny), Friday, 10 October 2003 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

We went down to the Bay Area inaugural meet-up today, and it was cool. met up with Chris, the guy that started the whole thing and he was suitably effusive and caffeinated (though my wife didn't realize who he was and asked him if this was his first year). We're going to try and get to the weekly write-ins as its just a short bus ride into Oakland.

The people were nice but very cagey and reluctant to talk about their ideas. Also a lot of wacky NorCal faux-literary types reading their character sketches off of their PDAs.

I hope this thread keeps going because I for one need motivation and inspiration. Sarah is already sat behind me bashing out ideas on her laptop, but she has written a couple of short novels before, and can easily crank out 10-15 pages a day. As evidenced by my presence on this board, I am a master of procrastination. So...hassle me. Give me hell. I will of course reciprocate if required.

adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I forget all about the meet-ups -- once something like this gets going, the last thing I want to do is go socialize with writer folks! But it makes sense as a pre-thing. I should've checked into a Bloomington one.

I'll hassle you if you want. I've been making notes today, trying to get things together enough for an outline that's more extensive than what I have now -- a breakdown of the first couple pages, and some scattered "much later, THIS happens!" type notes.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 19 October 2003 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

...looking through all my notebooks now, and it is all such utter CRAP...oh well...

adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

See, nothing is crap until December at the earliest. You'll be surprised, once you get into the groove, it's weird how ... well, in the groove you can get.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 19 October 2003 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Things progress for me. I'm at the "shit, I have a lot that needs to be done before November starts, or I'll ignore it in favor of the novel" stage, which overlaps with the "I'm going to have inevitable time to kill in airports and on airplanes during this, what should I read/listen to?" stage. Looking forward to it.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 20 October 2003 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I've also practically-quit smoking (not a drag since Thursday), which could be either good or bad.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 20 October 2003 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's face it, I am never going to do this.

adaml (adaml), Monday, 20 October 2003 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

well congrats on the not smoking bit at least!

teeny (teeny), Monday, 20 October 2003 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

No worries, it'd be best to keep this thread going largely to kick all fellow participants up the arse. I know I'm going to need a lot of kicking along to get it done.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 20 October 2003 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Nordic, you can totally do it.

Don't congratulate me on not smoking, cause it makes it sound like I've quit, which I haven't quite; the idea right now is just to only smoke when I'm on campus. That way I don't think I've myself as having quit ... and then December will come along with its three week break when I won't be on campus at all ...

We'll see.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 20 October 2003 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm very dubious about the plot/structure I've come up with too - but at least its enough to prevent me running out of steam unlike last year where I just came up with a mega-vague idea and started writing without any forethought.

My HUGE fear is lack of discipline. If I come home from work as it is and flop on the couch in exhaustion and dont touch my PC, wtf difference is it gonna make in 2 weeks time? Oy.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 20 October 2003 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I still haven't hashed out the final details, but I like that. My idea will still work, I just need to know how best to approach it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 October 2003 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

My HUGE fear is lack of discipline. If I come home from work as it is and flop on the couch in exhaustion and dont touch my PC, wtf difference is it gonna make in 2 weeks time?

One of my tentative plans right now, especially since I'm in a wedding in early November and am handling many Honor Guy chores, is to get up an hour earlier and work. I'll be tired earlier, yeah, but I think it's more likely to work than my usual plan of "stay up late working," which can snowball quickly when my ideal work period is 10pm-3am, and I teach twice a week at 8am.

We'll see. It's been months since I've managed the kind of intense focus I've had in the past, but there are a dozen factors responsible for that.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 20 October 2003 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, and Easy Speed Tip, in case it helps anyone: stop re-reading. Yeah, don't give me that look, you know what I mean. It's the easiest way to feel productive without actually producing, and I think most of us are more motivated by the desire to feel productive than the desire to produce. Stop re-reading, don't even think about re-writing, just hit the keys. If you made a continuity error or accidentally called your protagonist Peter Palmer, fix it in December.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 20 October 2003 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

GOod point on both counts. I like the get up earlier idead actually - I find that once I first wake up (after the coffee kicks in) is when I feel most energetic.

Am also angling for a week holiday in November which will help trmendously if they let me have it.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't do this.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Everyone can do this! [might not apply to heads of state or med students]

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

books suck

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Bush is so signing up for this. And much as I want to read the novel he's been dreaming of finding the time to write...

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn, after reading my last post it looks like I'd forgotten that morning coffee! What a load of typos.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

At least you took the hint about not re-reading :-)

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I occasionally get this feeling that I won't be able to do it, but damn it starts Saturday! And I am excited. I see it as a huge challenge.

I don't have too much of a structure. I mean, I have some basic themes I want to explore and I've thought about my characters a bit, but I don't really know yet where I'm going with it. I'm sticking to the advice that if you figure out too much ahead of time, you'll kill your inspiration, or something...

I'm going to a party Saturday night (a late Halloween party). I plan to celebrate my first day of novel writing. :)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, y'all, I'm in.
Check the progress on my blog
or DON'T! write yr own!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm thinking I should maybe just stay up for 24 hours straight and do it then, then on Nov. 2nd I can just be like, "Guess what, losers? I'm done!" plus it would probably be better that way.

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

You better not call me a loser!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, you better not hog the laptop!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Likewise coastalblog will be keeping interestied parties up to date with my progress (or lack thereof)

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

And my works-in-progress LiveJournal will probably have mine as I go (it's possible this will cease to be true when I spend eight of my writing days computerless), but you need to have a LiveJournal account and I need to add you.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I have yet to create the page, but it'll happen...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I couldn't have a blog of my progress because every entry would just be like "Ohmigod. I am sooo smart. This book kicks ass. Marcel Proust, you can suck it, you Frenchie momma's boy."

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I signed up!

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't wait to read the new madness. I would sign up, but I'm afraid I'd forget to keep to the schedule.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

This is getting scarier by the day.. Not sure about the blogging thing, wouldn't that be a bit stifling?

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll probably just report back here. Oh, and on my diaryland site (accessible from the USERS page).

Sarah Mclusky (coco), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I think my book is going to be called "Invisible Touch." Seriously.

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

It's basically going to be 800 pages of fan porn about Genesis. (OK, this isn't true. But the previous post is.)

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

OH, come on! That sounds good!

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

American Weirdo

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

You Are the One That's a Weirdo

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

my ideas so far:
The Nakeder and the More Dead
Bring Me the Head of Debbie Matenopoulos
The Godz Must Be Hatin': A Hip-Hop Odyssey
Although I Am Smart and Funny and a Successful Young Woman in the Publishing Industry and Possessed of Quirky If Unconventional Good Looks, I Still Cannot Find a Good Man in Manhattan
A Child's Garden of Asshat

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I vote for the second to last -- and don't hold back on ANYTHING.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

You Kake, I Kake, We All Kake For Bukake

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

EW

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Although I Am Smart and Funny and a Successful Young Woman in the Publishing Industry and Possessed of Quirky If Unconventional Good Looks, I Still Cannot Find a Good Man in Manhattan

YES! I'd read it!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Sarah's book title wins!
I like the first and fourth on that list. If you use the fourth title, the entire book must be written in that style. "My quirky best friend sure has some hilarious quirks. I fear that some tragedy may occur to my supportive yet elderly mother and/or father."

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

(but my book is really going to be called Invisible Touch).

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"I hope the new guy in my office isn't gay, as I am falling in love with him! Well, after humiliating myself in a drunken manner, it turns out that he's gay after all! But now I have a new girlfriend...and he's a guy! Ha ha ha! I need ice cream and some Xanax."

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Soundtrack by Dido.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe i'll do this with some of the stuff i've been kicking around for awhile.

(as if I have the time. . .)

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Mine is called "Word Counts are for Rockists"

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Mine is "The Little Scone That Could".

adaml (adaml), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I was thinking I'd make some sort of disturbing multi-media collage novel. Like bits hand written, doodles, typed bits, bits cut out from newspapers, painted bits, found art etc. Ya know, totally style over substance. It'd probably end up looking like a Pavement cover.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Pictures don't count for 1000 words in your multimedia novel.... do they?

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

hah, yeah.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

It'd probably end up looking like a Pavement cover.

Dear Mr. L,

Thanks for your multimedia contribution. We at NaNoWriMo are baffled by the doodles in tribute to Malkmus, though we can appreciate the amount of creativity. Please enclose a primer for the layperson.

Thank you

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

"sam you MUST do this!":
my mind boggling at the stuff
you have lying 'round

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

My Pimp Hand is Strong; or, How I Stole One Million Dollars From the Streets

Cookie Dough Has Feelings Too

My Fucked Up Family Has Exhausted Any Chance I Had For a Normal Life

rob geary (rgeary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm in & totally fucked

rob geary (rgeary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Right now my preparation for this consists entirely of trying to shake the cold I've picked up -- every time the weather dips I get a cold, this is very bad considering I'll be coming back to 40-50 degree weather from 80 degree weather in two weeks. Despite all the stereotypes about putatively creative people and alcohol/drugs/recreational wooziness, anything more than the wooze-equivalent of one drink and I can't write at all.

There was so much I wanted to get done this week so I wouldn't have to worry about it during November, and this damn cold's made it impossible to do.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 30 October 2003 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I could do more this week at work to prepare for this, but things are out of my hands. So I just wait...I've done the basic prep in my brane and will let things happen as they do.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I HAVE A WEEK OFF WORK NEXT WEEK TO WRITE! *raises fist in victory*

It was actually rather entertaining asking my boss "Hi can I have the first week in November on leave?" "probably, whats it for?" "Oh, I'm writing a novel" I said casually. He looked like I'd just insulted his grandmother in klingon or something. I think he thought I was making it up :D

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 30 October 2003 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got a two page outline ready.

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Thursday, 30 October 2003 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I seriously
have about three ideas
I can't choose between

but it's all good though.
bring it on, you heartless month:
I will knock you OUT

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 30 October 2003 06:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay I'm doing this, too, I just decided (off from work until Nov. 15th; should be PLENTY of time!). So when does it start? Tomorrow? That leaves me about ten hours to do preplanning or research. Is it a good idea to do preplanning or research? I think I'm just going to wing it, frankly. Disaster looms.

deathisahedgehog (deathisahedgehog), Thursday, 30 October 2003 07:57 (twenty-one years ago)

It's definitely a good idea to do some kind of preplanning (research varies, I guess, depending on what you're doing). There are always the people who want to do it as much by the seat of their pants as possible -- picking an idea at random on November 1st, scoffing at people who outline ahead of time, and so on -- and honestly, they usually stop by the 5th. Everyone I know who's finished had at least some notion of what they were going to do before they did it.

(Oh, and along those lines: I'm reminding myself that it's probably better/more productive to take a day to outline and not write, if I've slowed down because I'm not sure where I'm going with something, than to end up with eight days where I'm barely cracking a thousand.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 30 October 2003 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and from the Nanowrimo tips list, the one I would challenge is the "write autobiographically" one. Possibly it does work for some people, but it's one of those classic traps that provides immediately accessible premises and then no follow-through -- if it were actually interesting the way it happened, it wouldn't occur to you to write about it in a novel (that sounds counter-intuitive, but I'll stand by it as a generalization), and if it isn't you'll be reluctant to change it.

But I have trouble with even mildly autobiograhical material to begin with; my based-only-in-premise-on-fact "I found a severed finger on Decatur" story is like pulling teeth.

The movie soundtracks thing, for sentimental scenes, can be broadened to "listen to music that fits the mood you want." I have dozens of mix CDs laying around for action scenes, action scenes with guns, action scenes without guns, action scenes with Popes, etc.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 30 October 2003 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Other last minute advice: Exercise a little each day. And if you have a span of time where writing is your only/main responsibility (weekends etc.), try to write 1000 words before you eat anything. You write differently hungry, and often faster.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 30 October 2003 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Good tips, Tep. I have the basic characters, a general idea, and an ending all in my head. I'm not sure what will actually happen to get me to that ending. I'm afraid to actually write anything down ahead of time because I'm worried I'll look at it later and be like "This is shit," and get frustrated and give up. So for now, it's all in my head.

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 October 2003 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

You're writing tomorrow night, Tep? You mean, after midnight?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 October 2003 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep, I work better at night anyway, so assuming I've either slept the day away tomorrow or am no longer sick, once it's midnight, bam shazam, there I go. Even if I am sick, I want to get a lot done this weekend. November's gonna be crazy insane busy, but the way I figure it, the next thing I know it's gonna be mid-December and I'll be all, "Damn, that was something else," and then I'll sleep till New Year's.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 30 October 2003 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 31 October 2003 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

You can do it!

Tep is not Rob Schneider (ktepi), Friday, 31 October 2003 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

adam you'll be fine
because you're a being from
that weird dimension*

*yr picture, natch

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 31 October 2003 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks, but I have to look for a job at the same time as writing- how can I justify spending my time on such a "frivolous" thing when I got's to put food on the table?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 31 October 2003 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

can't look for a job
at night; nervous energy
burn-off is crucial!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 31 October 2003 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

What Haikunym said!
First you job hunt then word peck,
that's Nanowrimo.

Figure, looking for a job isn't likely going to take more time than working a nine to five job, right? So if you could do it while working, you can do it while looking for work. Unless you're reeeeeally efficient at using your time, Nanowrimo time isn't likely to cut into time that would be productive: so why guilt-trip yourself over spending time getting better at something you want to be better at?

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 31 October 2003 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

tep you are such a good cheerleader; you're tempting me to try again! esp since I can't write my big freelance article now (it was going to be on getting certified to carry a concealed weapon, and now the legislation is all tied up in the courts).

teeny (teeny), Friday, 31 October 2003 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

What Tep said, nordicskillz. Basically, I see November as a chance to get a WHOLE lot accomplished. I am going to jump back and forth between packing up the apartment and working on my novel. I seem to get a lot more done under preasure.

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 31 October 2003 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

teeny, you can totally do it. We should revive jewelly's "writers, share your abandoned ideas" thread, for people to raid at the last minute and whatnot.

All right, dig it, next post is long, cause it's the first 1667 words of an unrelated novel I wrote, just to show last-minuters and cold-feeters a) what 1667 words looks like (it's the average daily wordcount you need) and b) just how little needs to happen in 1667 words. It really can go quickly.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

There was no time for shoes if I wanted the hooker to live. I'd left them on the floor on her side of the bed, and caught a glimpse of them when she picked up my T-shirt to dry her tears on. Watching her, something -- some old habit, some new keenness -- drew my eyes to her throat, saw the artery pulse, a little twitch she wasn't aware of.

I grabbed her wrists and yanked her across the bed, rolled us both to the floor, kicked the bathroom door open bare-footed and listened to the floorboards.

"What the fuck --"

"Shh!" I covered her mouth. Shit, I'd forgotten that it hurt to land on wooden floors. My hip sparkled at me in frustration. Those little things, those little things, you could forget them so easily. "Ever been religious, Maggie?"

She spoke through my fingers. "Mass every Sun--"

"Got a cross, a crucifix, rosary beads, anything?" She didn't answer, clearly thought I was the latest in a string of Crazy Johns, but her eyes flicked to the box of costume jewelry on the bureau. I imagined I could hear footsteps in the bar downstairs, or the creak of the door to the stairwell, but of course I couldn't: of course I was being swayed by the paranoia of the pulse.

Didn't have time to be nice, so I shoved her into the bathroom and leapt across the floor, imagined footsteps up the stairs, grabbed the jewelry box, found the rosary beads with a crucifix attached and flung them to her even as I dropped the box and kicked the glass out of the window over the wrought-iron balcony.

She was screaming but it didn't matter, and it wouldn't matter if they heard the glass break, because they knew I was here and they'd find me if I was there to be found. They could smell me, sweat and sex and beating blood.

"Pray, Maggie. The Devil's real and he's on his way. Find your faith and pray, or you'll die."

Stupid storybook words for a stupid storybook night, but all I had time for. I fell through the window, leading with my shoulder and pitching myself over the balcony, slamming against the closed dumpster hard enough to have broken my arm if I hadn't rolled with the impact. Wood splintered apart in the room I'd left, and Maggie's screams became shrieks. If she found her faith, she'd live: if she died, she'd die quickly, because they didn't have time for play with the bonus levels, they were gunning for the big boss.

Idiot. I shouldn't have stayed, shouldn't have taken Maggie up on her offer. Shouldn't have been out after dark. Should've just collected my guns and gone back to the hotel. Should've known even a bitch pup like Bango would've gotten the word out this quick, when the word was what it was.

I started running without taking the time to stand up straight, bare feet smacking against the pavement, feeling the artery in my throat pulse like a beacon. I needed a crowd, a herd, something to get lost in. No one was around except a few drunks huddled by the corners, a few cars lumbering by. Bourbon Street. I had to get to Bourbon Street.

I could taste copper in the muddy air of the Mississippi River, a foul mist rising up around me.

"I can smell you on her, Bishop! You won't survive the night!" That was Vict's voice, carrying further than a human's could have across the humid streets. Not as close as I'd worried, though: they were having trouble following me. Having trouble scenting me. Good.

Bishop. I was effectively excommunicated, dead among the dead, but few of them were old enough to have any other names for me.

I reached for -- oh fuck. Oh fuck I was stupid. Near-perfect memory replayed it for me: taking off my piece at the hooker's insistence, not minding because I didn't want to sleep with a woman who lacked the sense to take care of herself, putting aside my security in a stupid moment of the meat. I could see it, black and oiled and brand-new and loaded and left in my jacket on the chair by the door. No jacket, no gun, and I had maybe four minutes to do something about it, if I was lucky.

Didn't need a watch to know it was six hours till daybreak. Old habits, old skills. You keep track of the moon and stars, like a salty sailor. Keep an internal clock you could time an atom by.

Think, Tomás.

I ran while I thought, feet slapping, hitting puddles of beer and shards of bottle and fuck but I hoped I wasn't bloodletting, wasn't giving them more trail, more scent. Four minutes would be tough enough to catch as it was.

Rampart Street.

I headed away from the river, forgetting Bourbon for the moment, sticking to the outskirts of the French Quarter where tourism and T-shirts gave way to tattoo parlors and biker bars. Time to get into character.

There was a guy coming out of a bar without a sign, nothing identifying it except the neon Dixie logo twinkling like green glass fireflies. Looked the type. Just drunk enough, just burly enough, unnecessary leather jacket in the September heat. I ran up to him -- and almost collapsed, forgetting how lungs worked, that when you ran and ran and ran they'd stop giving you enough oxygen, make your head go empty and your muscles dumb.

I raised my hand, the universal symbol for "gimme a second here" since time immemorial, and like a good boy he waited, hands reaching not for the right side but the left, for a pack of cigarettes, thinking I was going to bum one. God bless the international confederacy of smokers.

"Need --" I wheezed. "Your -- gun." Southern rock was blaring from the bar and he couldn't hear me, shook his head, gave me The Concerned Look which usually prefaces "you okay there, buddy?" God but I'd marked him, just like the old days of last week and the century before, and if it were then instead of now I'd be --

But it wasn't.

"Your -- gun!" I wheezed again, and he shook his head slowly like maybe he'd heard me this time but figured he couldn't possibly have.

Fuck it. I'd lost too much time. I drew the gun from the waistband of his jeans, smacked him in the side of the head with the butt, let him fall and took the jacket. Too big and smelled like whiskey but it'd give me a little bit. He was groaning, which meant I hadn't hit him as hard as I'd wanted to. It was too soon, I wasn't used to this yet, wasn't compensating.

How far away were they?

I ran again, down the side streets, crossing over an alley towards the sounds of noise and drunk and too many bars with too many jukeboxes: Bourbon Street, blessed Bourbon Street, where I was just another guy in jeans and leather and bare feet.

"Bishop!"

Shit. Shit, I'd doubled into their path. How many? I weaved through the crowd as I hit it running, stealing a look down the street as I moved. Four. Only four? No, don't think like that: think four, four you gotta take care of. Don't get weighed down by ego tripping.

I recognized Vict and Stepping Razor but not the girl or the long-haired skinny kid. Didn't know if that was good or bad and didn't have time to decide.

Ducked through the crowd into the bar with the most bass, which would make it tougher for them to follow my heartbeat. Breathing exercises. Remembered my breathing exercises, which I hadn't had long to come up with. Hoped they'd work to keep the panic out of my pulse, keep me focused. The butt of the gun jutted comfortably against my side as I moved through the bar crowd, jostled through the dance beats, and buttoned the jacket all the way up to cover my throat with leather. Better safe than buried.

Christ, it'd only been a couple nights and they were already after me without so much as asking for my side of things. Not that I had a side, but shit, couldn't I get the benefit of the doubt?

There was a fire exit just beyond the trail of beer and butts leading to the restrooms. Unless the girl or the skinny kid had pulled alpha, Stepping Razor would be there waiting for me, figuring on the other three flushing me out.

Good. Stepping Razor was a guy I felt like hurting. Near-perfect memory flashed again to a devil in a powdered wig, slashing at soldiers on both sides of a civil war they'd call revolutionary later, slashing with the saber he'd replace with a razor later, blood hanging in the air around him like greasy smoke.

Grabbed a girl waiting in line for the ladies' room, clutched her by the throat and couldn't help but notice that flash of panic and something warm across her eyes, but I was all business right now, just feeling her pulse, feeling for that rhythm. There it was. Yes. The beat inside the beat. They were here. Either it was Stepping Razor outside or it wasn't, but either way my four minutes were up and it was time for the show.

The furniture in the bar wasn't wooden because metal and plastic hosed down easier. Plan B was dangerous, not because it wouldn't work but because it was going to show more of my hand, remind them that no matter what my status now in the underchurch or the world at large, I was still the Bishop and would not go gentle into that good night.

[Okay, it's 1651 words, but I hit a paragraph break and it was a good time to clip. Easy-peasy. Guy jumps out window. Run. Run. Punch. Run. All done.]

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not holding that up as an example of the Great American Novel, I'm just demonstrating length :)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Hell, wasn't nabisco's Buffy post longer than that? C'mon, a nabisco Buffy post a day! You can even write a novel about nabisco posting about Buffy!

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

My jobs for today, pre-midnight: translate Umberto Eco essay for Italian class; make meatballs; lock Gameboy in closet (note: find closet with lock on it). At midnight, shazam!

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

That was an exciting read, Tep. ACtually, it turns out 1667 words was a lot more than I thought.

I'm excited about hitting the laptop (ha ha, not really hitting). I've had lots of ideas bouncing around my head about this story for a while now.

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Unfortunately, my Alizee CD only just shipped from Amazon (that's another thing ILE introduced me to. Ally and ... I forget who else.) I like to have new music when I'm starting a writing project, and I keep forgetting to buy a soundcard for the computer. I do have some mix CDs I haven't listened to much yet, though.

This probably varies a lot for people, but finding the right music can be incredibly key for me. The story the above bit is taken from? Whole thing turned around when I heard "England 2 Colombia 0" and ended up playing that while writing most of the fight scenes. In high school, I wrote almost all of my horror stories to the Cure's "Lullaby," although really that has more to do with the fact that I was in high school and listening to the Cure's "Lullaby" all the time. (But seriously, I think hearing that song made me go, "Oh, you know what? I think I want to creep people out. Yes. For the rest of my life. Oh, but without going to prison.")

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

That's great, Tep!

I guess I'm going to have to listen to the romantic comedy soundtrack mix cd my sister made me for xmas many years ago on repeat...

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh. To say what will be soundtracking my novel actually gives it away a bit...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 October 2003 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know what would be appropriate for mine. Some boring minimalist music probably. Brian Eno and Keith Fullerton Whitman. But then I will fall asleep instead of write.

NA (Nick A.), Friday, 31 October 2003 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

In my heart of hearts I am hoping for three thousand words tonight post-midnight. We'll see. I still haven't shaken the cold, but am eating tangerines by the fistful in between translating this Eco essay.

If I am well enough in time, I'll break out the tried and true secret combo maneuver power-up: Red Bull & tequila. Rrrawr.

Haven't decided on music yet. Probably Nick Cave, cause it's Halloween, and I think it might be Halloween in my story too.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I might be doing this as a 'work on the weekdays, 2 chapters at a time' thing. Hm. Decisions, decisions.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

It's my early finish at work tonight. I shall be home for ten thirty giving me plenty of time to get myself sorted for the ineivitable ONSLAUGHT come midnight. Bring on it fuckfaces. Get in!

Matt (Matt), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Sound's like Matt's got his title!

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

It took Nabisco weeks to write that Buffy post!

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not staarting til mid November, genius can't be rushed.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

It took Nabisco weeks to write that Buffy post!

Shh! I was hoping no one would remember that. Don't heckle the pep talk!

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Tep! Your sample post roxx. I've been wondering how the hell I'm going to just physically churn out that much each day and now it seems, well, not easy, but reasonable. I'm now much more excited for the clock to hit midnight.

rob geary (rgeary), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I tend to soundtrack very randomly when I write fiction. If the music I'm listening to falls into my specialty I wind up writing about the music instead out of habit. So it's new stuff on low volume and probably lots of dub.

rob geary (rgeary), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I took my boyfriend out to breakfast and told him about NaNoWriMo, but he was half an hour late and so I had like five cups of coffee waiting for him:

"So NaNoWriMo is where you write a 50,000 word novel, like you just do it and you don't worry about it being shitty, because you've just got to do it and not put it off for the rest of your life, right? Okay, so I had this idea for it, it would be like the Bhagavad-Gita but set in New York City after 9/11, so I would get to do all this research into Hindu epics and New York City, which I love, right? Like the Gita was great when I studied it in college, except I don't remember much of it, but there have got to be some good story lines and a bunch of parallels that I can exploit, right? Like Shiva! Destroyer of Worlds...Trade Centers!"

Him: "So is the point for it to be shitty?"

teeny (teeny), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

How mean of him!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Lysistrata time, Teeny

rob geary (rgeary), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was funny!

xpost haha rob!

teeny (teeny), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost: I think sometimes the point is to be shitty! Unless you're very very fast or have absolutely nothing else to do, you can't really get to 50K without turning off the critical filters a bit. Easier to revise something finished than to continually restart something until it gleams.

I've been wondering how the hell I'm going to just physically churn out that much each day and now it seems, well, not easy, but reasonable.

It's definitely reasonable. That's the thing, different kinds of scenes are different ... what, densities? Dialogue can eat stuff up quickly. Action scenes can eat stuff up quickly -- that scene up there, that's just action and exposition, and the action is almost entirely running around. And the exposition barely covers anything! (I think it stopped before it got to where he says he used to be a vampire, right?)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, my core page is up and running.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

teeny's boyfriend OTM

my life is too short to generate more shit

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 31 October 2003 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

See, you're always going to generate shit when you write a novel. Part of the goodness of Nanowrimo is getting over the hump that keeps you from realizing that: there's a reason for revision. Inspiration is bullshit; craft is everything.

This Eco translation is going slow as hell. I was hoping to get some outlining done today, but I've barely cracked this thing ... I may be starting tonight's Nanohooptie without really knowing where to go next if I do get those 3000 words written. That's all right, but I wish I had managed to get ahead on work this week.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Good luck tonight (tomorrow morning), Tep!

And everyone else. :)

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah word up you freaks
I'll be scribin' and vibin'
My Homonculus

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Midnight (ish) GMT.....so...GO.

Matt (Matt), Saturday, 1 November 2003 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

It was a dark and stormy night.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 November 2003 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

1.28 a.m. 1513 words.

Matt (Matt), Saturday, 1 November 2003 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Not bad!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 November 2003 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Get in Matt! Too early yet here, so I've just watched 28 Days Later, will watch Carnivale in 20 minutes, neither has anything to do with my story, and then an hour after that, bam shazam, I'll see what I can do.

I have not even looked at my notes for this all week. That's very unlike me, but I'd been trying to focus on getting other things done, and then got suckerpunched by the cold. Sheesh. I'll go do that now. Possibly I've been brilliant without remembering it.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 1 November 2003 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

It's now 12:0something in the US Eastern Time Zone. Ready, set, go!

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Saturday, 1 November 2003 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Turkey time.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 1 November 2003 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I might actually start tomorrow. I was thinking of Monday but plans have changed a bit, so hey.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 November 2003 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I haven't started yet, but I did buy a really nice spiral bound notebook.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 1 November 2003 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh shit. It's on. Has anyone else gotten the opening email about ten thousand times?

rob geary (rgeary), Saturday, 1 November 2003 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't get it at all, weirdly (I'm registered). They mentioned something about that on the homepage, though.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 1 November 2003 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't get it either.

Chapter 1 is up.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 November 2003 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm at about 1400 words, which isn't much, but a) the first thing I did today was strike 150 words I wrote last night (which is totally against all my suggestions, yes) and b) I'm still sick, and the kind of sick where I have to keep reminding myself to have a tangerine or something or I start to wobble and get faint. So I think I'm doing all right. I really, really want to be somewhere in the 12K - 15K range before I leave for New Orleans Thursday morning.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 1 November 2003 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I hit 2000 and am leaving it there for now.

luna (luna.c), Saturday, 1 November 2003 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Excellent!

Oh, and:

So...hassle me. Give me hell. I will of course reciprocate if required.

-- adaml

HASSLE HASSLE HASSLE.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 1 November 2003 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok, so I've written about 700 words or so, which is kind of disappointing. I'm about to do more. But I mainly came on her to say that currently Sarah has written 3678 words. BECAUSE SHE IS ON CRACK APPARENTLY. In case you can't tell, this has turned into a sort of competition at our house, made worse by that fact that only one person can use the laptop at a time. Not that I've been exactly harassing her to give it to me, since I bought Tony Hawk: Underground today (bad idea for creativity). OK. Back to work.

NA (Nick A.), Saturday, 1 November 2003 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I mainly came on her

Agh! Delete! Delete!

NA (Nick A.), Saturday, 1 November 2003 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Rah, chapter 2.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 November 2003 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I got up to 1500 words. I don't know how I will keep up during the week.

NA (Nick A.), Sunday, 2 November 2003 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I found I was being too "writery" last night rather than just getting on with it. As the month goes on I think I'll get more into the mode of just writing, and using December for edits.

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 2 November 2003 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, good call, Matt. I think I might be having the same problem.

Nick, dude, you can't let Sarah beat you! (Sarah, get in!)

And Ned, you're a machine, but you knew that.

My Alizee CD came today! It's like it knew it was needed.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 2 November 2003 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Scarily enough, chapter 3 is done too. I might be on a roll here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 November 2003 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Go Ned!

I have the mostly-description preface done and the very first scene. Sex in a Funhouse, so far. Violence and WTF forthcoming.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 2 November 2003 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Rah! Let the blood flow, etc.

Lo, chapter 4.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 November 2003 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Ive done lots of notes but no bulk yet - am sitting here attempting some now though. Its Sunday afternoon. I suddenly have an idea for a creepily fantastic children's eye view short story I want to write that IS NOT MY NOVEL IDEA and I'm procrastinating like all fuck. But I've also been quite sick since Sat morning, which hasn't helped.

Thank god I have the week off to catch up...

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 2 November 2003 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Getting ideas for Story Y while working on Story X is ... classic, in the sense of "traditional," not in the sense of "good." It's like suddenly remembering that really hot substitute teacher you had in 8th grade, when you're already in the midst of fantasizing about the blonde daughter on Too Close for Comfort, except that with stories you have to start from scratch every time you shift gears.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 2 November 2003 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, chapter 5, and any more this evening and I'll wig out a bit. Time to zone for a while...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 November 2003 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

holy shit ned. way to go, all of you!

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 2 November 2003 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw, Nick gave you my update! Humph!
Well, I'm about to go crazy on the keyboard again, so I'll be back with an even more amazing update soon!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Sunday, 2 November 2003 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I've up to like 2300 words, so that's not too bad. Only 1000 to go for today to get up to par. But I'm running out of the parts that I had planned in my mind. So I think I'm going to brainstorm each day while I'm at work and write out some notes so that when I get home I can just bang stuff out.

NA (Nick A.), Sunday, 2 November 2003 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay, chapter 6.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 November 2003 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Good God, Ned, if I don't click on that link and find out chapter 6 is two sentences long, I'm gonna kill you out of envy!

Damn sideburns are slowing me down...

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 2 November 2003 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Hoho I'm writing about a guy who is writing a novel and has no ideas. So far I have digressed into the differences between major supermarket chains, and the dreadful horror which can be wreaked by longshore drift. I love digressing.

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 2 November 2003 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I barely cleared 1600 words yesterday. Argh. Insufficient planning is rearing its stoppered head. I think I'll do more planning today then just bang away an hour or two this evening. I'm trying to keep the digressions under control- if I'm not careful I'll have 50K of nothing but digressions!

rob geary (rgeary), Sunday, 2 November 2003 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

What I'd originally planned as a digression has become my first 3500 words! I haven't undigressed yet. Digressions are great.

Where's The Ilx0r Formerly Known As NordicSkillz?

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 2 November 2003 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

He'd better be writing, or there's gonna be trouble.....

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 2 November 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Chapter 7 for your perusal.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 November 2003 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Digressions are great things! When they form sections on their own is especially great, but avoid that whole 'custom house in Scarlet Letter' thing if you can help it, ie, make the digressions entertaining at least.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 November 2003 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Ladies and gentlemen, Neal Cassady is dead, and Ned Raggett is The Fastest Man Alive. Now I have to buy "reads the almanac" just to find out if he sounds like that guy who used to do the Micro Machines commercials.

Watched most of White Oleander this morning while doing dishes and having coffee and etc., and while Michelle Pfeiffer was very good, a not-specific-to-Nanowrimo reminder: avoid porridge. You know, when one character is too nice, and the next is not nice enough, and the third is just right? Or any too-X, too-Y, just-right combo like that. It's fine for freshman essays and fairy tales and nothing else.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 2 November 2003 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

The trick with writing in a certain style/mode like this is pace and opportunity. In this case this weekend turned out less busy than I expected, so I decided to go to town. But I'm not writing all the time -- I'm getting a chapter or two out, then doing something else. Yesterday I hit up a Wherehouse clearance sale for a few hours, for instance (got some great DVDs, I'm very pleased with myself), and in between the two chapters this morning I finished watching one of said DVDs, the John Waters documentary Divine Trash. Now I'm off to get some brunch as well as getting some food at Trader Joe's. Each chapter is taking me about thirty to forty minutes to write, convert to HTML and load up, which is great because it's fitting in with the exact pacing and structure I had hoped in terms of its specific inspiration.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 November 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

You are insane.
I can't decide whether to incorporate this Nabokovian stylistic device that would make my novel more interesting but also much more complicated to write. I guess I shouldn't.

NA (Nick A.), Sunday, 2 November 2003 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Do it! I just had to create a chart to track my nested flashbacks. I feel dirty

rob geary (rgeary), Sunday, 2 November 2003 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

You are insane.

Well, yeah.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 November 2003 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I was up til all hours last night, and so just cleared 6300. I'm done for now.

luna (luna.c), Sunday, 2 November 2003 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)


Where's The Ilx0r Formerly Known As NordicSkillz?

*Stumbles in*

Sorry guys, I've been boozing in the Napa Valley all weekend. But I'm home, and starting now!

*glares with envy at Ned's progress*

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 2 November 2003 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned is the Flash of this Justice League, but I am determined not to be Aquaman.

Glad you're starting, Nordic!

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 2 November 2003 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Chapter 8 and Chapter 9. Now for a movie break.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 November 2003 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned writes faster then I read!

A Nairn (moretap), Sunday, 2 November 2003 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

fucking A

rob geary (rgeary), Sunday, 2 November 2003 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

When it happens, it happens, what can I say?

Chapter 10

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 November 2003 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, you're supposed to take a month to do it, not a week. Slow down there, Speed Racer!

luna (luna.c), Monday, 3 November 2003 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

But I like it when stories take you over! You have to write it to figure out how it ends. Though in this case I know what the final chapter is, so I'm most interested in the second to last one.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 November 2003 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm at 200
words you prolific bastards,
but soon my pretties....

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 3 November 2003 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't write it all in haiku! That'll... well, you can do it if it helps.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 November 2003 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Chapter 11. Hm, maybe I AM insane.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 November 2003 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I got the flu on Saturday and I'm only just starting to feel human again. I've only just started writing anythign except notes. WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN?!? I haven't been sick in almost a year! Grrr!

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 3 November 2003 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

*jaw drops*

Ned, hon, I'm building you a shrine so you can be my literary icon. You are obviously squandering away your talents by not being an insanely popular and prolific novelist. Eleven chapters in two days -- oh my God, I am amazed and impressed and my mind is swimming. I will immediately have to print out all these chapters and read them the first chance I get.

If it's as good as the one story of yours I read... wow.

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 3 November 2003 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh...twelve.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 November 2003 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

*gets off computer now so she can really build Ned a shrine*

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 3 November 2003 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I've heard stranger!

Chapter 13 -- I'm past the halfway mark! All downhill from here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 November 2003 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I was about to ask what your wordcount was, now I don't have to. Geez, Ned. I mean, I have my fast days, and I'm still saying geez.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 3 November 2003 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, what do you get if run the following BASIC prgoram:

10 PRINT "Hello!"
20 GOTO 10

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 November 2003 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

You get EIGHTH GRADE HIJINKS IN THE COMPUTER LAB!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 November 2003 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Right now I am listening to Plug - "The Life of the Mind" on repeat and wrenching pt 2 free from the ether.

Ow

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 3 November 2003 05:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I have to drop out:
call it fate or circumstance
or just bad planning

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 3 November 2003 06:07 (twenty-one years ago)

what it's third day in and i'm still thinking about it? hmm.

one of the boys mentioned on the 'this is the thread where i say' threads is proposing we partner up and each write a version of the same plot or something. Hmm. . .

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Monday, 3 November 2003 06:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"partner up"

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 3 November 2003 06:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually that's kind of a hot idea! I'd love to write parallel novels with someone. Have one person start two weeks ahead, then the second novel is all backstories and digressions and what the characters are doing when they're not in the "main" novel. Like instant fan fiction. Oh, actually this sounds like a bad idea now.

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 3 November 2003 07:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not sure how this might pan out. we're just discussing it. i was thinking of proposing a novel about a girl who's dating two boys on the sly. I could write as the girl and he could write as one of the boys and. . . Hmm. . .hope he never reads this thread.

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Monday, 3 November 2003 07:04 (twenty-one years ago)

flip the genders and you've got something

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 3 November 2003 07:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I am clearly avoiding finishing my daily dose right now

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 3 November 2003 07:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Do it though Sam! Even if it's just you. It sounds cool. I would probably write about a girl who's dating two robots instead, but this is why I'm single

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 3 November 2003 07:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm just, you know, writing what i know.

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Monday, 3 November 2003 07:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha, I don't know anything. So I write about self-aware robotic sea anemone and shit like that

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 3 November 2003 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha, I'm writing weird dirscursive shit which has just veeered from river erosion to gerontopr0n to WI jam making in the last thousand words.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 3 November 2003 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Sam, it could totally be like one of those teen romace novels with the girl's perspective on one side of the book. You flip the book upside down and over and there's the guy's pic with his story on that side. With the exception, of course, that your stories would rock.

I reached 4700+ words yesterday, but compared to lots of people on this board I feel way behind! I am a little worried about what I'll be writing mid-month, since I think this first part is the easiest. I am really enjoying it so far though. I might do something during my lunchbreaks like Nick and just brainstorm for an hour for my nightly typing. Maybe later on, I'll even bring the laptop to work for lunchbreaks...

My major concern with my book right now is that it won't be funny. It's supposed to be a romantic comedy, but I want it to be more fresh and intelligent than most. I tend to consider myself a pretty funny girl, but it's hard to translate that on paper.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 November 2003 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Comedy is always a trick, Sarah, but fret not -- remember, this is an exercise in getting the act of writing to be something more easy to do, or at least more familiar. Usually it can take a couple of chapters for the right tone to assert itself.

Anyway, Chapter 14.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 November 2003 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, you can always revise in some bananas and accidental clowns in December, don't worry -- I'm no good with comedy myself, but it can't be any different in that respect than the rest of the kettle.

Haven't written yet today, gotta finish the Eco translation since it needs to be typed and I won't be near computers tomorrow. Argh. I was awake all night coughing, which isn't helping any.

Did write chapter 2 yesterday, though. Yes, 2, not 14. I am sub-Epstein at best compared to Ned's Freddy "Boom-Boom" Washington.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 3 November 2003 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't edited anything I've written so far from NaNoWriMo that hasn't been at least a year old (and is therefore after another NaNoWriMo thing is under my belt). I figure it's good to have that sense of thorough distance before going back.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 November 2003 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Can anyone else tell how sucky their novel is? Mine's pretty sucky so far. I hope that I can fix it in the edit.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

The execution is pretty poor so far, but that's only to be expected. Some of the ideas which are coming out are, on the other hand k-classic.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think my novel is great, even though it's fun to write. I keep reminding myself though of all of the horrible books I've read and that mine is at least better than some of them!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

if you have more than
200 words yours beats mine.
damn hell crap poop shit.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

But I'm sure you're focusing on QUALITY, right Haikunyn?

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I think mine doesn't suck at the moment, but a) I'm not very far in (plotwise, I have one conversation, one sex scene, one disappearance, one what the fuck, and one death) and b) I really don't want to think in those terms until December.

Finally finished my Eco translation and am going to go buy some more cough medicine before starting to Nanowrime for today. Aren't my updates thrilling?

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 3 November 2003 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

aw McCluckski. your
faith in me is cute but oh
so sadly misplaced

if nothing tonight
(distinct possibility!)
then I'm out for sure

but out on my shield:
late-night visits last two nights
from troubled people

plus my wife is gone
on vacation so I'm all
alone with the kids

shoulda named this thing
laundry and dishes or baths!
then: it writes itself

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 3 November 2003 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Bad luck man, I've been very lucky with having relative peace and quiet so far.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 3 November 2003 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I wrote exactly 666 words this morning and stopped cold. Huh.

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 3 November 2003 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Sarah, comedy in novels is damn near impossible! Think of how low the bar is- how many books really make you laugh the same way as a comic film or standup, or what have you? What I'm saying is to not sweat it. Let your setup come, get your characters in funny situations and the funny will out.

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 3 November 2003 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Haik, that's a great title, start over again! Laundry And Dishes, or, Baths!

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 November 2003 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

quelle Victorienne!
such a great "issue novel":
housework makes her swoon

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

It would be beautiful, sir. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Bathing The Dog: An epistolatory novel.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I need to find that perfect balance of humor that is not too over the top, but is definitely noticeable.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Give yourself a few chapters and let it come -- that's a matter of tone, and ... well, you're a musician, I'm not, but would it make sense to say "think of the first few chapters as getting your instruments in tune"? If not, don't think of it that way. It's how I think of it, cause I know dick and gum about music.

Hai, you could do it even if you don't get anything done tonight! Look at how fast Ned "Professor Zoom" Raggett is going! (The Lightspeed Librarian, The West-Coast Whizzer! Excelsior!)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck it, I think I'm going to stop even trying to write a "good" novel and just write a bunch of gibberish. It will be "experimental."

xpost - Yeah, I know, I think I painted myself into a corner. For example: I only have three characters and one setting, and I can't add any more without using flashbacks/dream sequences/etc. due to the ramifications of my bullshit plot. So I'm going to abandon the rigors of writing a "good" novel or even one that makes sense. I'll string it all together in December. For now, it's pure hallucinatory goodness.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Can you back up in the plot? Like, take what you've written so far, and make it the end instead of the beginning, and write what comes before it? (That doesn't have to be flashback, just move the cursor :))

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Not really. I could start the story earlier than where it is now, but also I have an ending in my head, I just don't know what to write between where I am now and the ending.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick, you need a digression about swans mating in the moonlight. NOW! it's OK if you need to make them drown for it to "work" for you.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Or you can add some talking animals.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Well I guess I'll need to do some research on swan mating for my novel here, ok, let's see, I'll just get on Google and put in "swan sex" and click enter and ok, let's see OHMIGOD MY EYES.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I am hoping to be the "creative wack pack" for you all. When you get stuck, I will suggest random shit for you to throw into your story. It will be good, just trust me, truuuuuuuuust meeeeeeeee.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll try and toss the mating swans in there somewhere. Can't make it any worse.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick, stop worrying about the quality. That's not the issue here. Make it as godawful as possible if it'll help keep the wordcount rising.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

B-but Chris! I'll have to read it!

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Totally, that's my plan from now on.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but Sarah, you can taunt him about it. You both win!

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay all around victories!

Chapter 15. A bit of stock-taking chapter, a bit of a time-killer, but it's helping me figure out where the final ten chapters should go.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

ned you are nuts.

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned is a writing fool.

Nicolars (Nicole), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay! Wristguards at my work computer help, I have to say.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

And the insanity continues. Chapter 16. Thank heavens for quiet days at work!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 November 2003 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned is our very own Barbara Cartland.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"At Ned's peak he was pumping out a novel a day."

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

(None of which is meant to discourage you, of course!)

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned is our very own Barbara Cartland.

Without the prerequisite pink puppy.

(Apparently, I've much reading to catch up on. I'm getting comfortable.)

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

C&P 7 chapters of Ned's novel thus far, as I can use summat to mentally nibble on with dinner.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm assuming Ned has a L. R*N H**bard type keyboard with special keys for
"and" and "or" and "the" and....

300 words so far. Arrgh.

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, Christine, your next 1000 words words clearly need to be two of your characters arguing about the benefits or tragedies of circumcision. Go!

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

And where are yours, CP? Or are you only the cheerleader?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, Christine, your next 1000 words words clearly need to be two of your characters arguing about the benefits or tragedies of circumcision. Go!

Well, first my two ovoparious female humanoids have to have sex, and then get interupted by the invasion of their homeland, and then...Maybe somewhere around the 50,001st word?

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

It can be the epilogue. :-)

Rah. Chapter 17.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

As said above, if people aren't writing, it's because they're too concerned about quality and what to write about. I suspect Christine could write 300 words in her sleep if she didn't care about how good they were -- and that's the point.

I have other things I need to write this month, and am crazy busy, so I can't take part. Also I have no real desire to write a novel. But if people say they are stuck, it just means they don't know what to write next, and I am offering (awful but hopefully doable) suggestions for people for what to write about.

Because, come on: If you're at 300 words and don't have anywhere to go, it's because your characters don't have anything to respond to, right? So I'm offering a digression or a subplot (and even if they're all females, there's such a thing as female circumcision; and even if they're not really human, obviously some part of them could be ritually removed).

I mean, obviously you don't have to listen to me.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, that was 177 words, and I was holding back. C'mon, write!

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I am out. Here's why.
Now I will have time to read
everyone else!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm 1000 words in and my story's turned into Ghost World. Argh, help.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh and I just smoked my last cigarette. OK, I suck at this.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 08:21 (twenty-one years ago)

My novel is shit. Urgh. I only wrote like 300 words last night and I might have to erase them.

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm ahead of the game at the moment, and it's still interesting (I'm aiming at 1900 words over per day, so I'm still writing within myself but I develp a buffer for when the ineivitable block arrives). Things are still just being set up, the story proper shouldn't start until around the 15000 mark, hopefully.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick, your novel is supposed to be shit. It's OK. You'll edit it later, just keep writing so you have something to edit.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Chapter 18 -- I hope I got the tone right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Depends what tone you were/are reaching for: Confused me, at the start of it: suddenly wondered if you were channeling John Edward, but no....

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I should hope it would make sense having read the rest of the chapters.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Haven't had time to read past the first couple chapters -- Ned will probably be finished by the time I get around to reading the rest!

Nicolars (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Other than the leap to peek at this last one, I've read up to Chapter 3, so far.

But I should slog though my email, first....

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I brought the laptop and got out some words at Starbucks over lunch. I'm at 6752 now, just barely over my daily quota.

Sarah MCLUsky (coco), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Onward, the McLusky Machine! Go, Sarah!

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Rah! It is all good, Sarah. :-) And Nick, steal the laptop back from her and get writing tonight!

Chapter 19 has emerged.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Breaking with usual Faustian tradition, I've read all of the Raggett opus (thus far).

Off to play catch up on the rest of ILX.

Interested to see what dramas the rest of you get into prose.....

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I keep thinking this will have to be a story edited down rather than up in terms of length. We'll see. Hrm.

Chapter 20.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

And disturb the "rule of 24"? Tossing some chapters may disturb the story's flow, though.

(check your email, BTW, when you've time)

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

If ya sent a message, hasn't arrived yet. usa.net acting up again, maybe?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Not more than usual. Sent from yesterday; hmm. Will resend in a sec, then. Check usual email.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

8500. Oy.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

(Ned, resent it to you.

Luna, now you are officially over the hump. You go, girl!)

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Message received, thanks! Yay Luna!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Chapter 21 -- four chapters to go.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, today was my first day of working on this longhand. Didn't get a LOT done, but not bad, either. And it was in Budapest! I am more confident of how I'm going to handle Nanowriming during my New Orleans trip now.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm totally failing

rob geary (rgeary), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, Ned, I think you're gearing up to write a trilogy.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

C'mon, Rob, you're not failing. It's way too soon to fail -- it's only the 4th or something! Even if you started from scratch tomorrow, you could do it.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Yus, what Tep sez! Do not give up, Rob. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Who can resist an imperative tag-teaming with an emoticon? I'm still in, just despairing a bit. This is a normal and healthy part of my writing process. What I need to do is drop the self-editing and put on the afterburners. No biggie. Thanx for the support.

rob geary (rgeary), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, I think your reward (punishment?) is that you have to KEEP writing for all of November!

rob geary (rgeary), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

AHEM

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha, just messin' with you, you krazy speed demon you.

rob geary (rgeary), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

:-) And keep writing, Rob, it will all be good.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned should hire himself out to other NaNoWriMoers who are stuck. He could rattle off a thousand words for them for a sawbuck.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 07:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm doing very badly, but whatever happens I am using this month as an excuse to write. Wordcounts be damned.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 07:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Then you're not doing badly at all :)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm at 8016. I didn't get to take the computer with me today though, because it's Nick's early day and supposedly he'll work on his novel when he gets home.

Is anyone else sick of their characters already?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I think by mid-month, I'll probably want to start killing them off, but it's supposed to be a romantic comedy! :)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Sarah, if you kill all of your characters off, I will read it.

I think when I get home today, I am going to start from scratch. I know, bad idea, but fuck it.

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you have an idea yet?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sick of mine, but my novel's this ... thing. With dead people and stuff. And I think I'm writing another sex scene today, actually (not that that's why I'm not bored of the characters yet).

No, Nick, you can still afford to start from scratch. Better not to, yeah, cause you could keep what you have, but better to start from scratch now than to putter for another week, not be into it, and then start something new and never get near 50K. You can totally do this starting today.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't have a plot idea, but I've got a framing device idea for each chapter and avery very loose subject, and I think that's better because I think maybe I planned out the plot too much for the first one and wrote out all my ideas and got bored.

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

That sounds like a good idea, yeah -- I have exactly the same trouble, if I know everything that's going to happen, the thing never gets written (novels and short stories both). With this one, I know what my protagonist needs to do, I know why it isn't easy, and I know how it ends, and I'm just sort of letting it fly.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll have ten thou broken by tomorrow I think, I need to store some words up before the g/f's b'day next week. It's going very slowly today, but I'm enjoying it being a bit of a graft, it's almost like waiting for the plot to show itself (I too hate knowing precisely what will happen)

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I was going to ask something like "what's everyone's first sentence?" and then realized I think mine is pretty boring. I'll ask anyway. Let me go get mine.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

New Orleans has only about five hundred thousand year-long inhabitants, a seasonal bulge of another one million transients, and an unsteady perimeter of muddy scrunch that prevents the strict-minded from calling it an island.

Actually the first sentence is a quote from Kobo Abe, "Even if you lose your way, you cannot go wrong," but I haven't decided yet if that really counts towards the word count (in other words: if the story is less than 50,010 words long, it DOES.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the first sentence of my new novel will be "A priest, a nun, and a rabbi walk into a bar." Yes, I am serious.

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

So long as the last line is "What, and give up show business?" you're golden.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously, my framing device for my new novel is going to be that the first line of every chapter will be the first line from a famous old bad joke. I haven't decided if every chapter will end with the punchline or not. I don't even know the punchline of the priest, nun, rabbi joke so that's a problem. If anyone wants to contribute jokes for me to use, feel free.

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

The last line's goinbg to be "Of course, I could just be making all this up"

The first line is:


And on the seafront, nothing happening, nothing important, anyway, there is a newspaper wrapping itself around a bench on which an elderly couple share a sandwich and stare grimly out to sea, trying to discern a view in the whipping mist.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh. That's a really good framing device. Google probably has oodles of priest, nun, rabbi jokes, etc.; there must be a rec.humor archive or some damn thing.

Excellent, Matt! (I'm biased in favor of stories that open by the water. Genuinely. And no, I don't know why.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been starting every chapter by quoting a Minutemen song and then kind of letting that drive the plot. I've decided to title it "Shit from an Old Notebook". It's working out pretty well. I have a little over 10,000 words.

BrianB, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I fully approve of this approach, BrianB. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Chapter 22. Into the home stretch.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Chapter 23. Nearer. And I like how it's wrapping up.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I got home and started a new novel from scratch, starting with the line "A priest, a nun, and a rabbi walk into a bar." and ending the chapter with the line "The bartender says 'Get the hell out of here!'" I wrote 1900 words in an hour and a half and am having a lot more fun with this one.

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Hurrah! Well done Nick! :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Excellent. Fun's a good compass in this, as in all, things.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Chapter 24. All that's left is the final chapter now, and I have that pretty well thought out. Rah. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Cool, you can write three more novels this month and have your own little "The Hobbit"+"Lord of the Rings" thing.

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

It's actually funny because there IS a way that applies to other writings I've done/thought about. Not this one, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Today's been difficult, but I find that when I get past the allotted amoutn for the day I can write more easily, it's like the pressure's off.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 6 November 2003 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I am still awed that Ned has essentially written a 50,000 word novel in a week.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 November 2003 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

It's been crazy but the ideas, the writing, the words all came together. I like that it did. :-) (Am finishing up the final chapter now.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 November 2003 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm definitely reading yours in December, Ned -- no time to do so until then, unfortunately. Congratulations very slightly in advance :)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Why thanks. Much appreciated and all feedback will be welcome. :-)

Chapter 25 is done, the novel is done. I'll post a message reflecting on it and pointing out useful strategies later on, but I'm going to have a celebratory meal at Wahoo's to reward myself. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 November 2003 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

My golly.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Write another one! This time, write about a fancy waitress and her inbred lover as they trek across the veldt looking for cheese.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 November 2003 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

That's next year! ;-)

Seriously, next year will be a comic one, as so far my efforts have alternated serious/comic/serious. I presumably will also allow myself to relax then, but this was a story that just happened...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 November 2003 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I am off to New Orleans in the morning, and hope to come back to tales of wordcounts in the mid double digits. I'm sure you can all manage a week without pep talks :)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Pep talks, tep talks. ;-) Best of luck with the writing/thinking while you're away!

Also, if this hadn't been mentioned on the thread yet, everyone please donate if you're participating. They only ask for $10 and it does help them cover the costs; I think it's worthy. Just sent mine in.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 November 2003 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

8500. Oy.
-- luna (luna_cee...), November 4th, 2003 3:51 PM. (later)

Today: 8506.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 6 November 2003 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I've changed the security settings on the entries, so that my Nanowrimo novel thus far can be read at http://www.livejournal.com/users/the_remix -- unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to get to the explainy bits of exposition yet, but I like what's there.

And yes, this is me killing time waiting for the girlfriend to be ready to go :) It's easier for me to pack, my clothes can all be rolled into balls and put in my backpack.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Have fun on your trip, Tep!

I can't remember my final word count as of this morning, but it's over 9000.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 6 November 2003 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

that's the ten thousand mark broken. In self-amusing game I contrived to make the ten thousandth word "landmark"

Matt (Matt), Friday, 7 November 2003 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, a brief array of thoughts and reflections...

As my disclaimer on the main page for the novel states, this whole thing came out of a random thought involving the musician Jandek, who has (very carefully) maintained a specific public image of not telling anyone anything if he can help it. I really wasn't too sure what to do beyond a general thought of tracing time via his albums, idea being a chapter an album (as there are much more than 25 albums at this point, I decided to edit a bit). I knew I didn't want to do an actual attempt to tell his story per se, and I wasn't sure if I wanted to make it comic or completely weird or what.

The two most important parts of the story came after I started it, though -- first was the decision to completely steer clear of actually calling him Jandek or referring to him by name (as well as his label, Corwood, his hometown (?) of Houston or any of the actual album names). Second was to steer away from anything other than the most basic biographical details to let whatever the story was develop. I knew I wanted to end the story in Ireland partially due to a bemusing shift in Jandek's cover art pattern where just a couple of years ago he started showing some photos of a trip to Cork, so I figured I wanted to get him away from his 'place,' generally described.

The whole important of the house as obsessive focus of his attention and the story's grew out of a similar obsessiveness in the cover art examples, but if it wasn't for my random thought about ghosts at the end of the first chapter, it wouldn't have turned into the exercise in psychological horror that it eventually turned into. I guess if there's a line of descent it's Poe to Shirley Jackson, but trying to transform Jackson's waking world terrors into something much more ambiguous -- I'm not aiming at determining the reality of the main character's visions and I don't want to explain everything in them, whether dream or reverie. I kept resisting the temptation to put something obvious in the dream sequences in particular -- some sort of specific thing encountered, some kind of symbol -- in favor of trying to freak myself out with a series of set pieces that never resolved into an answer. I got enough chills up my back at points to know that it worked for me at least, hopefully it will work for others.

How this came out so quickly and thoroughly I'm still not sure -- I think what happened was once I found a rhythm I just kept at it, and as I said above I wasn't sure how or what it would all resolve into, and I wanted to find out. There's a hell of a lot to tweak and edit, possibly expand and maybe contract, but at least it's something to work with.

To everyone else still writing -- just set aside the time, keep plugging away and don't worry about the loose ends or the perfection or any of that, as has been said. If you want to do something more about that, you will, just get the words, the actions and the thoughts on the page. After that, editing and expansion will be so much simpler.

Best o' luck and I hope to read all of what you've got as I can. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Wrote 4300 words of the new thing in 24 hours. Second chapter is "Why did the chicken cross the road? To get the other side." and the third chapter, which I'm writing now, is "My dog has no nose. How does he smell? Terrible."

NA (Nick A.), Friday, 7 November 2003 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I've hit the 10000 mark too, Matt! Boo yah!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 7 November 2003 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Get in!

Matt (Matt), Friday, 7 November 2003 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

NA you should have a running joke wherein people keep knocking at the door to be answered with a "who's there?" each time.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 7 November 2003 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll totally use that. At least once.

NA (Nick A.), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

AARRGGH I accidentally deleted 600 bloody words last night AAAARRRGGGHH!

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 9 November 2003 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG NED WTF!!!

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 9 November 2003 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Huh?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 9 November 2003 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I wrote 1,400 words today! Shame it was for an essay :(

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 9 November 2003 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm just saying, your entire project (especially the part where you bang it out in a week) is shocking and depraved! Maybe I will just read the chapters that correspond to the Jandek albums I own.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 9 November 2003 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I am shamed!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 9 November 2003 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Somehow I am still on target with my daily quotas. Boo yah.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm way behind, didn't do much over the weekend. I'm still at around 5,000 words, just starting chapter 4: "What's black and white and red all over? A newspaper."

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 10 November 2003 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely it's a zebra with sunburn?

Matt (Matt), Monday, 10 November 2003 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be a little harder to work in.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 10 November 2003 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

AAAAAAARGH.

My notebook PC has very kindly decided to DIE ON ME as of yesterday. No warnings, no obvious reason why - it just refuses to boot up, do a POST test or ANYTHING now :(

Its still under warranty so Im not concerned - except I assume I'll be sans-PC while it is being fixed.

I am really fscking PISSED off. I have another perfectly good PC but I didnt back up what I'd written so far, did I?

I'm going to cry now.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 November 2003 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

OH NO! God Trayce, you have my utmost sympathy

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 13 November 2003 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I just feel like a dickhead for not backing shit up :( Even just my docs and email.... *sigh*. Oh well. I dont think I'll lose my data, but I could be without it a while.

Maybe I should just start a different story, heh.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 November 2003 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be pretty intense.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 13 November 2003 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Trayce, if Ned "the Machine" Raggett can do it in a week, you've still got time to start from scratch if you need to. Or just pick up from where you remember leaving off, and try to hit 50K new words.

(And Ned, your concept is really cool; I promise I'll read it in December.)

I'm back from New Orleans and I'm way behind; I just didn't have nearly as much time to myself while I was gone as I expected I would. I wrote a couple hundred words at the wedding reception, a thousand or so the night before, and so on, but I've got a lot of catch-up to do. It's fun, though.

Sarah, are you still on target?

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 14 November 2003 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

And Ned, your concept is really cool; I promise I'll read it in December.

Thanks! :-) Hope everyone is doing well with theirs!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 November 2003 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep, I'm still in there! I was caught up on my word count as of yesterday. I was nice enough to leave the laptop home today since I knew NA would be home early (and he has LOADS of catching up to do!).

I am getting to the point where I'm spitting out my ideas as fast as possible, which makes me think there might be quite a lull in the chapters to come!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 14 November 2003 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a bit of a slog at the moment, I was in a lull having gone through the idea spitting-out phase so I just upped sticks and moved the location of the narrative, it seems to have given me fresh impetus. I'll be ahead of the word-count as of an hour from now 23,000 is in my sights..it's just important to try and remember that it's just rough at the moment and not worry too much about specifics...but it's easier said than done.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 14 November 2003 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

TEP! How often does Nickalicious guzzle zombie cum?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 14 November 2003 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, how I wished that was the title of Nick's novel title.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 14 November 2003 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

... the title of his Nanowrimo novel, that is. Although titling your title might be a good way to inflate wordcount.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 14 November 2003 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I seem to have successfully quit smoking, btw; the gum works wonders. If you'd told me a year ago I'd be writing without smoking every couple hundred words, I would've laughed at your pants and punched you in the kidneys like a manic leprechaun who doesn't believe things you say.

jel, have you started yet? If not, write about Transformers and Poison. I'm so not kidding.

Trayce, have you decided what to do about your computer crisis?

We have not lately heard from Adam or Christine, I think. Or Rob!

Aimee and Brian got off to quick starts, how're you guys doing now?

Yesterday I wrote about a fictional chocolate company based in a fictional Louisiana town. I think it satisfied some odd urge that's been lingering since I read Charlie and the Chocolate Factory 22 years ago. Today I'll find out if the new Pink album makes for good writing music.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 15 November 2003 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess I have the rest of November free now, so I have no excuse for not writing! I'm thinking heavy on decription, low on direction, vaguely depressing with sidetracks. I shall put my thinking hat on.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 15 November 2003 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

28,300

luna (luna.c), Saturday, 15 November 2003 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

and three.

luna (luna.c), Saturday, 15 November 2003 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Excellent! That's twice as many as I've got, I'm afraid. You're more than halfway there.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 16 November 2003 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Rah for Luna! :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 16 November 2003 07:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I have my first line!

"I never liked Wellington boots"

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 16 November 2003 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

My lappy will be out of action at least a week, and I've not yet sorted out where to put my other PC so it'll be more conducive to use/writing. The wind kinda fell out of my sails actually - I've been having more fun spring cleaning and rearranging my flat, this week!

Oh well.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 17 November 2003 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

hit a wall due to unforeseen circumstances. decided to largely junk my premise and start over, but this seemed semi-organic b/c i was able to use large chunks of what i had plus characters. i am now writing about spies and fashion, continuing in the vein of things i know absolutely diddle abt.

~5000 and counting, here we go.

rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't remember my exact word count, but I'm only about a day behind quota-wise.

I was pretty worried about getting to this point where the next bit of real action is quite some time ahead, but it is actually pretty easy to make up every day scenarios as I go along.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 17 November 2003 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

In lieu of even attempting to write a novel I've been recording a new song every day. Of course all but 3 of these songs are total ass.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 17 November 2003 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

My lappy will be out of action at least a week

My lappy!! You Aussies are too cute. (btw, i really hate using the term 'aussie')

oops (Oops), Monday, 17 November 2003 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh :)

Der beast is being taken by my loverly boyfriend to the fixit shop today (32 degree heat and he's going out in it to trudge out to the burbs, what a dear)... hopefully all will be well by weeks end!

Bit too late for Nano goals now though :( This is the third time Ive tried to write a novel - nano or otherwise - and I just dont think I'm cut out for it. Short stories are my thing. *sigh*

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh-uh, you can do it. Maybe not this month, but that's because of technical problems: the computer wonked out, you didn't wonk out. If you can't do it this month, you can still do Nanowrimo next year, or you can take January or something and I'll be happy to nag you just as much then.

As for me, I've redone the math, and in order to catch up ground lost while I was in New Orleans, I need to write about 2500 words a day till the end of the month (I'm not counting tonight because I may take tonight off and catch up on school nonsense).

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

(Feedback is good so far from the people who've read it, though, so that's encouraging.)

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah to be honest I'd still like to give some kind of novel a red-hot go. Maybe not finished in 30 days, but I can try. I just need to find that one story that really wants to unravel and tell itself. I'm not finding one I love, and thats frustrating me.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

As of this morning, I had 28700 or so words down. I'm thinking of changing the direction of the next couple of chapters a bit to make it more interesting.

I got my NaNoWriMo newsletter over email this morning and it made me all excited. I'm doing it! I'm really doing it! (ha ha)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm at 27,075 and I'm running out of plot. I was planning on going back and padding what I've done so far with more details, because it needs it anyway, but I don't really want to take the time to do that, and I don't know there would be enough padding to reach 50,000 anyway. So I'm hoping that some inspired twist of fate will make last part of the story longer than I expected.

BrianB, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Just develop a more Proustian style. Talk about a bagel or something for like 50 pages.

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

That could come into play. Also, there is something about language and hypnotism or elevated consciousness going on, so I was thinking that I could just have someone repeat a mantra over and over for 12 pages if need be.

BrianB, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Repeat the plot so far backwards!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit!

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I want to read about bagels for 50 pages!

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

What's that about bagels? Tell me more!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Brian, breathe! You could create a plot revolving around hypnotism....or at least, it could have an hypnotic effect on your readers.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Wrote a chapter I like very very much at lunch today. (I like it when I'm not at lunch too.) I like where this story is going, and I like that it's very unlike other things I've done (no vampires; only one gun so far and it hasn't even been fired, although it has been jabbed threateningly). Lots of sex scenes, somewhat accidentally.

Brian, I can't make a specific recommendation re: running out of plot since I haven't read your story (my first instinct: "kill someone off in the next chapter"), but there are always ways to keep things going, especially when we aren't desperately concerned with quality. As long as everyone's alive when the plot "ends," there's still more stuff that can happen. Jump forward ten years.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just digressed about how restaurants have changed for about a thousand words, get in. also, this weird substory about mystical shopkeepers staring out to see hoping for a revelation has emerged. So it's all good. This is fun. Hard, but fun.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

How's everyone coming along?

I'm still way behind, but I think I'm more or less caught up to my revised catch-up-from-being-behind schedule, if you see what I mean -- and I've turned in the only paper I have to write before December, and am done with classes for the rest of the month, other than the one I TA for Tuesday morning. I've got a hundred and something papers to grade this weekend, and the morning of December 1st I have to start working on a research paper (cause it's due the morning of December 4th), but... I'm still on the bus.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Supposedly the new verification method kicks in later today so I'll take care of that tonight...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 November 2003 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I need about 1k more words to catch up to today's quota, so I feel like I'm doing pretty well. :)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 21 November 2003 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I really need to do this some day. Bah. I suck.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 21 November 2003 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Do it in February! Hell, if Canadians can't get Thanksgiving into the right month, we can cut you some slack for Nanowrimo.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 21 November 2003 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

My biggest thing is that I've got these stories that I want to get out of my head, but that--because I spend all day writing as part of my job--when I get home I just want to not have to do that any more. Oh well.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 21 November 2003 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm falling behind. I will try to make a big push this weekend, but things don't look good at 28,550 with a project due at school next week and a baby due in December. I don't want to cop out because I knew timing would be a issue, and I tried to get a jump on it early in the month, but since I reached the halfway point I've really gotten bogged down. It's not like I can make my 8-mo pregnant wife watch our two-year-old daughter and do all the housework. I tried that approach earlier in the month and it did not go well. But at the same time, I just haven't been very productive when I do sit down to write lately, so any excuses I make ring hollow in my head.

BrianB, Friday, 21 November 2003 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

You can totally still do it! You're more than halfway through, for one thing, and that leaves, what ... 2150 words a day for the rest of the month? That's manageable, especially when you've got so much already done.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 21 November 2003 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Hell, Ned manages 2150 posts a day!

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 21 November 2003 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, yes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 November 2003 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Exactly. My emergency plan is to suddenly introduce recipes for Moxie zombie blowjobs into my novel if I fall too far behind, and then WHOOM.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 21 November 2003 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Long story short, so to speak, I'm still behind; but I think I can do it. Even though I try to steer clear of stimulants other than caffeine and its helpmeets, I half-wish I had a few of the yellowjackets I had in New Orleans, which were pretty much ephedrine and St John's wort.

Anyway, though. Right now I'm speeding up by writing things entirely out of sequence, just writing the scenes I know will happen, and then I'll fill in the blanks that become obvious. It's worked for me before, although usually when I'm closer to the ending.

How's everyone else doing, in the final stretch?

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not. :( Laptop came back fixed, wind out of sails.

Funnily, I've been writing short story stuff again though, with pen and paper. But I've had a crappy time of it creatively lately, and I'd hoped this would fix everything magically. It didnt.

Still, congratulations to all of you for sticking it out! :)

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 05:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Still, congratulations to all of you for sticking it out! :)

Except for me. I quit a few weeks ago. I've been writing other things, though, so it isn't a total loss.

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 06:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm still going, mounting a last week charge to make up for falling behind on weekend of g/f's birthday (well, no-one could reaosnably have expected me to do anything then, surely?) Just wrote the epilogue, and I expect to marshal the three or so scenes which are left to write into place this week. I need to have it done in the next couple of days because I've got a reading next week to prepare for, but I think I'll do it.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I finished my story over the weekend and it was still 120,000 words short of 500,000 so I tried to go back and add more stuff in the middle but that was very painful and time consuming. So I decided to just go back through and write stream-of-consciousness commentary at the end of each chapter until I hit 500,000. Is that cheating?

BrianB, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: 50,000 vs 500,000

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not cheating, but if you don't actually mean 50,000, I'm gonna beat you with a chair, dude.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

50,000? WTF? I finished before Ned and I didn't even realize it!

Sorry, I'm bad with numbers. It certainly feels like 500,000 at this point.

BrianB, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Just making sure :)

That's definitely not cheating! I'm gonna be doing something similar.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, so youre bad with numbers and you meant 50,000 or you really have just written 380,000 words!?!

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 27 November 2003 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I've done it. 50000 as of this morning. Get in.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 1 December 2003 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Well its Dec 1st here now and I stoofed it. Poops.

Congrats, Matt!

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 December 2003 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

A few words over the finish line, with forty minutes to spare, and I'm done.

The final 20,000 words of it were written this weekend.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 December 2003 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

See, all that talk about being amazed at how fast I can write and you do the business just as well! So smile. And congratulations all who finished! Trayce, fret not -- next year. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 December 2003 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I only kept the pace up for two days :)

Glad to have finished, though. I wasn't as good about keeping with things as I wanted to be during New Orleans and then catching-up-from-New-Orleans, so I'm glad it worked out.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 December 2003 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Well done Matt.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 1 December 2003 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I made it to 50,525. In addition to adding commentary throughout, I ended up totally rewriting my first chapter and leaving the original one in there just to make the word count. kind of anti-climatic, but I'm glad I got it done.

BrianB, Monday, 1 December 2003 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

My whole past week was totally whiped out, but NaNoWriMo was the least of my concerns. I played with it a tiny bit this past weekend, so now I'm at over 40,000 words. I still plan on finishing it up over the next month.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 December 2003 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Congratulations, Brian!

I am belatedly getting in Matt cause I was so up in my own deal last night I didn't even see he'd won! Excellent.

Sarah, 40,000 words is still great, and having stayed on track so long is an accomplishment in of itself. Glad you're going to finish it.

In March: Nanoedmo, which I'd never heard of before, so maybe they didn't do it in 2001, I don't know.

Next up for me -- a research paper due Thursday which I haven't done any reading for yet, another batch of papers to grade, exams, and then I'm going to take a look at this past month's puppy and see if it at least makes sense. Or at least makes sense in the places where I want it to.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 December 2003 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

well done people!!!

I think I got about 50 words, oh dear :/

jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 December 2003 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

(insert game show "loser" noise here- wah waah wah waaaaaah)

didn't make it, for various reasons. about halfway though, and i intend to do the other half in the first couple weeks of this month before holiday insanity takes hold again. screw these "rules" maaaan.

i like the march revision idea, i think that could be very helpful. i have a lot of stuff that'd be definitely readable w. some revisions.

rgeary (rgeary), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 07:57 (twenty-one years ago)


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