What jobs did/do your grandparents do?

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My mum's dad was a GP (doctor) in the Warwickshire and my paternal grandfather had an optician's practice in Bombay. Both my grandmothers were housewives, though my mum's mother also did some clerical jobs once. I've never asked my dad whether his mother ever had a job outside the home. I suspect not.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

what jobs didn't they do! My mom's mom worked retail for a while, between marriages, and my dad's mom ran a daycare centre while raising 7 kids.
but all of my grandfathers held down plenty of jobs. all were in the armed forces during the War. My mom's dad eventually opened a shoe store and stayed with that for a long time, and my dad's dad did about a million things.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

which I'd get into but I need to leave work soon.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

On my father's side:

My grandmother was mostly a housewife, in the '70s owned a ceramic shop that burned down in '79 (note - my grandfather just found out last week that she was the one who torched it for the insurance money). Spent the '80s and '90s teaching ceramics classes at home, selling jewelry at flea markets, running insurance scams on occasion.

My grandfather was a sheetrocker in California after WWII, I guess he eventually ran his own small company. When my father went to college in the late '60s, he and my grandmother moved to Las Vegas and then Iowa, helping start an RV company that would eventually become Winnebago (in a roundabout way, after the original corp had folded). In '71, he and my father moved to Texas, where they worked construction for a while, started Southern States Roofing in '74, and kept that up doing commercial roofing until the last big hail storm at the beginning of the '90s. Now the business is mostly commercial remodelling and one or two homes every year for the commercial clients, mostly contracting. A total of four direct employees, the two of them, an old hippie and on occasion, me. Turned 80 this spring, still works every day.

On my mom's side:
My grandmother worked at the Post Office for 30 years, retired in 1990, gets a $24k/year pension, plus some social security. I wish Civil Service was still around.

My grandfather, uh, I don't really know. He passed away in 1989, had his first bypass in '75 and retired soon after. Had worked in factories and in ranching before that, I think. Mostly raised chickens and took them to shows when I was alive.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Paternal grandfather: Hard to explain really. Kind of like a primitive form of night watchman, he was paid to wander around big farms at night to keep thieves/drunkards/beastialitists off the ground.

Paternal grandmother: Never had a job, too busy having 13 children.

Matenal grandfather: Gardener, farmhand, prisoner of war.

Maternal grandmother: Long-running chain of various village shop jobs. May have worked as a butcher's assistant at one point, I can't remember.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

My father's father was a professional con artist.

My father's mother worked for what has become Verizon as a telephone operator.

My mother's father was a merchant seaman who jumped ship to come to America. He then became a fireman and construction worker.

My mother's mother was a seamstress in a factory in NYC.

Ally-zay, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

My paternal grandfather owned a rendering plant (neither a slaughterhouse nor a meat-packing place but the middleman of the two, more or less), which smelled nearly as bad as Pittsburgh the one time I visited it. My paternal grandmother didn't work.

My maternal grandfather was a banker, the latest (last, actually, I think) in a long line of them; my maternal grandmother was a receptionist for the same company for something like fifty years. The first and only job she had, I believe. (I can't even imagine living in the same town for fifty years, much less working for the same company.)

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Paternal Grandfather - butcher

Maternal Grandfather - Engineer

I am not sure what either of my grandmothers were employed as.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Kind of depressing to note how much more I know about one set of grandparents, even though I've lived in the same city as both sets my entire life.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

my dad's dad was a ballroom dancing teacher, amongst other things.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I just realized I phrased all of mine in the past tense even though my grandfathers are still alive: the banker is now retired and has lived a few years longer than his prostate cancer diagnosis told him he should (go him); the rendering plant owner retired and plays golf -- he gets money for it occasionally, but I don't know much about golf, I assume there are amateur contests or some such thing and that he isn't on some pro-circuit-for-eightysomethings.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

You know, I'm not really sure.

My maternal grandparents met while working at the Merchandise Mart in Chicago. My grandma quit to raise her children and then fucked up her leg which made her semi-immobile and unable to work for the most part.

My paternal grandfather was a bus driver and streetcar engineer. Nana didn't work as far as I know.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Weirdly, I have no idea what my grandfather did as a banker nor what company my grandmother was a receptionist for or what they did -- but I know tons of stuff about their siblings (my namesake uncle was a cartoonist and painter; my grandfather's sister was a teacher and her husband was OSS/CIA).

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Maternal grandmother worked in some kind of market selling sunglasses.

Maternal grandfather was some kind of gambler/entrepreneur.

Paternal grandmother was a housewife.

Paternal grandfather used to own a large clothing factory but lost it all when he went to trial for dipping quite extensively into his employees' insurance funds.

adaml (adaml), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Maternal grandpa owned his own farm supply and feed store, Shorty's Farm Supply. I used to climb on the stacks of feedbags in that place. Which is how I broke my nose the second time.

Maternal grandma was a high school teacher. She was a good teacher but she could be mean, I've heard.

Paternal grandpa is buried in Vegas. He's not spoken of much and I have no idea what his profession may have been, if he had one.

Paternal grandma is still hanging on, she worked in a doctor's office most of her life to support 5 boys and is now retired.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

maternal grandfather: carpenter
maternal grandmother: housekeeper
paternal grandfather: basically worked any job that would have him; seemed to enjoy moving his family to another city/state every few months in the process.
paternal grandmother: housewife, mainly, with odd clerical jobs here and there.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

maternal grandmother - cashier at a small store when not having/raising kids (I think she was able to stay home for most of the kids' childhood but would pick up jobs when my grandpa was on strike)

maternal grandfather - took over the family farm when he was 17 and his dad died, but then joined the army for WWII, was a POW, came home and started working for GM, first on the floor, later as a tool & die maker. UAW.

paternal grandmother - cashier/stocker in a five & dime forever, including while raising five boys; more or less sole wage-earner.

paternal grandfather - not much I think; he was in the military for the war but is an alcoholic so couldn't keep real jobs for too long. I remember my dad saying he would do loadout for bands when they played at the university, including KISS!

They are all still alive and I should visit them more of course.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread is revealing a pattern of highly sketchy father's father's among ILXORz. That's actually very interesting.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

My maternal grandmother: A clerk, then a stay-at-home seamstress when Mom was born.
My maternal grandfather: A truck driver, then a delivery man and a factory worker when they moved to S.A. (before Mom was born).

My paternal grandmother (the egg donor): A cleaning lady and serial marrier (*bitter laughs*).
My paternal "grandmother" (the one who raised Dad): Retired.
My paternal grandfather (the sperm donor): Was a career Army man (fought in Korea, IIRC); died of a heart attack while serving overseas during peacetime.

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah, and Tombot, I just added another one of those bahstid paternal grandfather types.

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

One grandfather was a research chemist in the oil industry, the other was a preacher. Neither of my grandmothers had jobs in the career sense - which is not to say that they haven't had very active lives.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

my grandparents were farmers. my maternal grandparents both spent time in the USA before they married, performing a variety of labours.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

shipyard worker/fulltime parent

merchant seaman/fulltime parent

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

The only one of my grandparents still alive is my father's mother. Her 95th birthday was last Thursday.
She retired a long time ago, obviously. Before that she used to work for a few decades for the local 'collective farm'. And prior to that, pre-WWII, she was shortly the pretty & proud housefrau of the village blacksmith's - my paternal grandfather's.

My mother's parents were both dead by the time I was born. I've only seen a couple of photos of them. They had three daughters and two sons, and ran their own farm - until the red plague was imported into Estonia in the early '40s. After the war, my mother's mother managed to keep their house and some o thef land and give a decent education to her children. Except for the eldest son who, still in his teens, had to take over as the master of the house then.
As a small kid, I spent many summers at that place. And a very beautiful place it was. (Still is. Sold years ago now.)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

maternal grandfather #1 - died many (20?) years before I was born, during my mom and uncle's teenage years. Owned factory (textiles?).
maternal grandfather #2 - (my grandmother remarried) businessman (who also owned factory?) and socialist.
maternal grandmother - operated #1's factory for some time after his death. later had some involvement in the glass industry i've never fully understood; involved traveling. current UCLA extension student. the only living grandparent.
paternal grandfather - lawyer.
paternal grandmother - i don't know? also a lawyer? died either shortly before i was born or in my infancy.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Paternal Grandfather: blacksmith then hill farmer
Paternal Grandmother: hill farmer
Maternal Grandfather: driving instructor and smallholder
Maternal Grandmother: sub-postmistress

Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

my grandfather was a war doctor in korea and then he came home and worked in a maternity ward in a small hospital while having affairs with various local society wives
my grandmother saved his money, bought floral furnature, drank a lot of liquor, and brought up children by making sure they didn't get fat.

my other two grandparents ran a small mom&pop store in a bad immigrant neighborhood in philadelphia, forcing their children off to college at 16 in the hopes that they'd find nice jewish wives. they died very young.

j c, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

later had some involvement in the glass industry i've never fully understood

The glass ears industry, yes?

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

On my father's side, my grandfather was a journeyman carpenter and a jack of all trades and my grandmother raised ten children, made bread every other day, canned enormous amounts of fruits and vegetables and was buried under laundry, mending and dishes about 16 hours a day.

On my mother's side my grandfather ran away from home at age 16 and eventually became a tenured professor of English and American literature, while my grandmother was a faculty wife who raised two children (before marrying she worked in an insurance office as a clerk.)

Aimless, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

paternal gf: printer
maternal gf: policeman
paternal and maternal gm's: housewives?

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

paternal side (the ones who immigrated from mexico)
g-father: migrant farmworker, steelworker, mechanic
g-mother: school cafeteria worker, housecleaner (and mother of 5)

maternal side
real g-father: mother never knew him although a pic exists of him looking like gene vincent on a motorcyle
step-father: carpenter
g-mother: licensed vocational nurse (not rn)

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 23:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Sam's mum is the new baby Jesus! And God is Gene Vincent on a bike!

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

PgF: was farmer
PgM: was farmer's wife
MgF: was army colonel
MgM: was army colonel's wife

My ancestors: growing food and fighting Italian occupation to serve you better.

nabiscothing, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 23:41 (twenty-two years ago)

MGF - don't know
PGF - don't know
MGM - housewife/don't know
PGM - factory worker/housewife/private income

David (David), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sorry, nabisco, but for 'PgF' I read 'pigfucker'.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

PgF - Something at First Pennsylvania Bank, later a repo man
PgM - Housewife
MgF - Foreman for Ford in Chicago, Buenos Aires, and Sao Paolo
MgM - Housewife for most of her life then a ward secretary in a hospital

David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)

PgF: coal-miner/factory worker/owned his own carpentry/construction company
PgM: housewife
MgF: accountant
MgM: housewife

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)

relatives had more interesting jobs. PgF's family had lots of soldiers, who fought in WWI (for austria-hungary, then for poland TO SAVE EUROPE FROM THE FUCKING BOLSHEVIKS MOTHERFUCKERS!) it's a point of pride on that side of the family, saying that they kicked Russian ass.

both PgF's family and MgF's family were wine merchants, apparently with some ties to some of the big Port and Madeira merchants (in Porto and Funchal, Portugal, duh). one uncle fought in the RAF during WWII, another was in the Royal Navy -- both have some really interesting stories.

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

mat.gf: bankrobber, then truckdriver
mat.gm: candyseller, clerk, single mother of 4 kids in projects
pat.gf: lawyer (pres. of cali state bar)
pat.gm: teacher (one year), then alcoholic racist society queen

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 01:14 (twenty-two years ago)

F > GF: accountant
F > GM: bank clerk
M > GF: children's book illustrator, drunk
M > GM: librarian

Barss (Jaacob), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)

'Drunk' is a viable occupation? Well hot damn. .here I was fucking around with 'teacher.'

(oh and N. if my mom's Jesus does that mean I can't be Mary Magdelene?)

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 01:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Paternal Grandfather: Lifer at RCA. Volunteer at children's hospital.
Paternal Grandmother: Housewife.
Maternal Grandfather: Various trades. Airplane mechanic in WWII. Carpenter. But my favorite story is when he sold poisonous snakes to evangelical Christians in West Virginia with his brother.
Maternal Grandmother: Housewife. Early on she was an Air Force base groupy who loved them boys with automobiles.

Dale the Titled (cprek), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)

paternal gf - physician
paternal gm - lawyer (one of the first women to practice in chicago)
maternal gf - truck driver. later ran the company
maternal gm - housewife, cubs fan

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't know about my dad's parents, but my mum's are solid working class! Grandad was a plumber, but they went on to own a kind of ironmongers come building supplies shop, and had a builders supplies yard. Grandma always worked, and with 8 kids it was my mum (second eldest child, but eldest female) who looked after the house and the kids. Whenever I'm near a house that's being done up the smells of plaster etc. evoke childhood memories of being above the shop, playing with my uncles old toy cars on the lino, with the odd rag rug strewn around, and the coal fire crackling.

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 06:57 (twenty-two years ago)

My father's parents were both mathematicians. They ended up teaching maths on mission stations in the South African bush. My grandmother had a successful career writing maths textbooks. (The textbooks that she wrote were adopted by the state schools, and used for a generation of kids, from the end of WWII to the advent of New Maths.)

My mother's parents were both botanists, and university professors. Actually, my grandfather ended up Vice Chancellor of the University of Singapore, and my grandmother was head of the Botany Department of the University of Natal.

It gets posher a generation back. A Doctor, A Minister, An Adventurer, A Town Mayor, and "nothing, they were just rich".

(How the heck am I supposed to live up to that? But at least it's not as strange as HSA's family which is full of poets, publishers and cookery writers.)

kate (kate), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:06 (twenty-two years ago)

My father's parents both worked as examiners for a correspondence college, then they set up a bicycle shop that in the later years sold, wool and drapers and haberdashers supplies as well. They also owned a couple of flats in Manchester which they rented out.

My mother's father owned and ran a pharmacists in Acton (it's still a chemist's today) and my mother's mother was a house wife.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Which explains the terrible disagreements between the in-laws in my family! Maths vs. Science: FITE!!!

kate (kate), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Paternal grandfather: ran away age 18 to Hollywood to make it in movies, didn't, eventually became executive in an insurance company instead.
Paternal grandmother: fashion buyer for Peck and Peck. Both only children with socialite tendencies.

Maternal grandfather: went on WPA projects during the Depression, became hardware store owner, wound up with group of friends in commercial property cartel and at one time owned the land that became Mall of America. Oldest of five boys and Always Right, so bossy as hell.
Maternal grandmother: housewife/mental patient. Was sent to art college and secretary school and was sewing/cooking MACHINE until she got loopy (sez my mum).

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:25 (twenty-two years ago)

maternal gf - worked at service station (the tam'o'shanter in riverside tas!) (mechanic etc), raced motorbikes in australia
maternal gm - nurse until had twins one of which was my mum then had two more kids
paternal gf - paint store(s)/business
paternal gm - ?
all dead

cuspidorian (cuspidorian), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Father's father = tobacco farmer
Father's mother = farmer's wife
Mother's father = cotton mill manager (after Navy)
Mother's mother = housewife I suppose (after WAC or maybe WAAF)

Sam (chirombo), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I only recently found out what my paternal grandpa did. I asked my Dad and he told me that he was a foreman in a factory which made hair-restoring cream. I asked my Dad if the cream worked and he laughed like a drain and said "No, of course it didn't!". However, by happy coincidence he was a good advert for the product as he had a full head of hair until the day he died. I'm hoping I've inherited those genes (if I have they certainly missed a generation!).

AFAIK, my paternal grandma was a housewife.

My maternal grandpa worked as a clerk in the City of London - Aldersgate Street I believe. And Nan, my maternal grandma, who was the only one of the four who was not deceased by the time I was born (marrying late being a constant in my family) was also an office clerk...she worked for a firm of meat wholesalers at Smithfield Market called Borthwicks.

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:33 (twenty-two years ago)

side note: I've always heard that baldness is inherited from your maternal grandfather.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:50 (twenty-two years ago)

PgF: Organist in big churches, also teacher
PgM: Housewife
MgF: Truck driver (also when young: drove car for rich man)
MgM: Housewife

Hanna (Hanna), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 08:04 (twenty-two years ago)

mgf: lt col in american air force; liberated dachau, moved onto being a farmer (sheep, grain, canola), then driving school bus, and odd jobbing.
mgm: housewife
pgf: self made multimillionare, mostly construction, some real estate. (sold his company to Stuart Olsen for 15.5m when he retired)
pgm: socalite, hoster of dinner parties, housewife (she does have a dr. in pysch.)

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 08:11 (twenty-two years ago)

My mum's dad was a tailor and had a shop somewhere near Petticoat Lane. Her mum made chicken soup and was a housewife. My dad's dad worked in a foundry near Birmingham making bits of aeroplanes and stuff and apparently spending lots of time reading manuals about the Lost Wax Process in French, pogoing round the boardroom and having 19 hour boozy lunches since these are the main anecdotes he has about his working life. oh and telling us about the long hours he worked during the war while we all mutter 'yeah well at least you weren't living in a trench and getting shot at'. My dad's mum was a housewife.

Emma, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 08:12 (twenty-two years ago)

(all in Canada, btw...)

My mum's mum was an opera singer, but gave it up to raise a family. My mum's dad was a postman and also served in WWII

My dad's mum became an orphan at 17, moved to Canada from Scotland and ended up becoming a housekeeper for the Eaton family (yes, the department store Eatons) before settling down into raising her family. She then became an avid bowler and had one of those great satin team jackets.

My dad's dad moved to Canada from Lithuania in the 30s and was a very skilled carpenter and builder. He helped build our family cottage in northern Ontario.

elisabeth k, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 08:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I read that as "a housekeeper for the Easton family"!

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 08:38 (twenty-two years ago)

* Methodist minister / fulltime parent
* radio announcer + advertising "idea man" + insurance salesman / fulltime parent

so predictable, really!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 08:43 (twenty-two years ago)

As in Sheila Easton or something?

elisabeth k, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 08:50 (twenty-two years ago)

pgf: university professor, studied tree diseases and wrote several books. Also wrote a book about driving cross-country in 1921.
pgm: died in the early 1930s. Don't know much about her.

mgf: general practitioner M.D.
mgm: housewife basically

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 08:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Carpenter, miner, factory worker, potato picker.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 11:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Housewife, farmer, housewife, farmer/IRA.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 11:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Mgf - french polisher/antique restorer
mgm - devout jumble saler - buyer and seller
pgf - carpenter
pgm - ran a clean, upmarket bordello (god rest her soul)

Saskia, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 11:27 (twenty-two years ago)

paternal grandfather: carpet salesman/part time mafioso(carpet store was a front. Still alive...barely.
paternal grandmother: housewife/died in 1978

maternal grandfather: worked in a factory after coming home from WWII, some sort of flooring company. died in 1986
maternal grandmother: was a professional dancer in Canada for a while, then sold shoes when she moved to the states with my grandfather. Still kickin it in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia. Walks 5 miles a day at 75.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 11:38 (twenty-two years ago)

My maternal grandfather was a Westmoreland farmer and kept on farming until he was in his early 80s, at which point he sat in a rocking chair reading large print Wilbur Smith novels instead. His wife did traditional farmer's wife things and had children, she has become my template for being grebt when old too.

My paternal grandfather was a diplomat and economist. He was involved in setting up the UN and worked for it for the rest of his working life, generally in Africa (he still lives near Geneva). He was mates with Haile Selassie, knew Ian Smith and I think met Idi Amin a few times too. He was by all accounts not a great husband and divorced my grandmother when my Dad was in his teens - she didn't work after the divorce, I don't know what she did before her marriage though I know she'd been to University and had worked.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

When American posters' knowledge of their paternal grandfather's career isn't sketchy then it seems to involve some kind of criminality! I am coming to the conclusion that the prosperity of 20th Century USA is built on some very dodgy foundations.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)

On my Dad's side, My Grandfather was a bank manager and my Grandmother was Miss Scotland nineteen forty something and was a model for my Greatgrandfather.


Davel, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Mum's parents = Gents outfitters salesman/soldier (WWI)/churchwarden + housewife

Dad's parents = Merchant seaman + housewife

Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Maternal grandfather worked in a British Gas showroom and went to North Africa and the Middle East in the war (I don't know exactly what he did, but I know he considers himself very, very lucky that it wasn't nearly as life threatening as it could have been - his brother was blown up in a tank in the desert). He's still the only member of the family to have seen the pyramids.

Paternal grandfather worked for British Rail all his life, starting at age 14 by washing down the engines and at the end of his career he was in charge of the line between London and York (I think). Train drivers essential at home, so didn't get conscripted.

Both grandmothers housewives.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Incidentally both of my Grandfathers fought in WW2 in India. One in the Army and one in the RAF

Davel, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 11:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Paternal (Italian) grandfather - Aeronautical engineer
Paternal (Italian) grandmother - Housewife
Maternal (English) grandfather - World's leading cardiologist!!
Maternal (Scottish) grandmother - Physiotherapist

Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Dastoor, my grandfathers were legit! Their parents were legit, too: one G-G founded a hospital in v. northern Minnesota, and was therefore the most respectable person in the top third of the state (not difficult), the other was a Swedish homestead farmer.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 12:05 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, I was exaggerating. But there do seem to be quite a lot of people happy to declare that their grandad was a shyster. It seems quite glamourous and exciting to me and my boring respectability.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

My paternal grandfather was a major shyster. Sharkskin suits, fedora's, cadillacs. And always a wad of cash in his pocket.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Hell, but boring respectability gives you something to rebel against! Hence why I'm a layabout trusta!

kate (kate), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 12:17 (twenty-two years ago)

(Also, how much of the shyster-hood is actually grandparental boasting, "What did daddy do in the war" stylee? Because Americans would much rather seem a crook than a genuine boring member of the working class/farmer/etc.)

kate (kate), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

pan-galactic cloneslavers in seething exile

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

But there do seem to be quite a lot of people happy to declare that their grandad was a shyster.

TS: being "happy to declare" the fact vs being asked the question and answering it!! Should we not take part in the thread? Anyway, it's only my paternal grandfather who was a "shyster" (this isn't even the word to describe him, he was a disgusting excuse for a human being and he deserved the painful, drawnout death he received, albeit he deserved it far sooner, but this is neither here nor there). My mother's father was a very sweet, respectable, hardworking man, not in any way a shyster.

Ally-zay, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

"But there do seem to be quite a lot of people happy to declare that their grandad was a shyster"

A distant relative of mine (a great Uncle I think, maybe great great?) was researching our family tree a few years back and was asking all of the older members of our family what knowledge they had and my Grandfather claimed that his grandfather spent some time gun-running in Africa, which apparently was completely false but many an hour was wasted trying to un-earth facts about him from African sources.

Davel, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry if that came out wrong, Ally. I'm not criticising anyone. I am very interested in all this stuff.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

i WISH my grand-dad
hadn't gone all criminal,
or at least I wish

that he had been good
at what he did; we'd be rich!
but: three-time loser

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

N., it wasn't yours that pissed me off, but it was yours I could write a more reasonable reply to--sorry if it came off that I was bothered by what you said.

I'm just thinking that what this thread "reveals" is that, shocker, there are a lot of dodgy dads in America.

Ally-zay, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I am a naive Englishman, remember. It's interesting to me.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, one thing I think it does disprove is the notion that "the 60s" and all that destroyed the family unit. I think we can assume from the ILX demographic, that most of our grandparents entered the work force pre-60s social revolutions. The fact that so many grandfathers were dodgy or shysters or whatever back then goes to disprove the 1950s Leave It To Beaver Nuclear Family myth.

What's interesting to me is not necessarily class, but female roles. Females that had careers two generations ago - are they polarised around any particular class? (For example, more female careers in subsistence level classes, or "vanity" careers in classes that could afford females not to be full-time homemakers?)

kate (kate), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought that notion was disproven to everyone besides really dumb hippies?

Ally-zay, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate, most of our grandparents grew up in the inter-war years when things like Communism and socialism and the labour movement were heavily subscribed to in the US. My grandmother, who matriculated at her university in 1926 at the age of 16, was born into a family where they had servants for essential roles such as arse-wiping and the like (her father owned a LARGE shipping company) but when she was four, her dad died as part of the flu epidemic and the money went elsewhere in the family (she was only child, a girl, girls didn't inherit in 1914). Her mother was given no help from the people in the extended family who inherited this money, and wound up cleaning houses to support herself and my gran. This made my gran:

1. Quite sympathetic to the aims of feminism.
2. Very aware of $$$ from too early an age.
3. Desirous of a career so that if the bottom fell out of HER life, no scullery maid option for her.
4. Really keen to keep her career once married because It's Fun To Be A Fashion Buyer.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I was thinking that the depression must have a lot to do with some of the dodgier things.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Mum's dad = miner, school caretaker, air raid warden

Mum's mum = florist, dinner lady, house wife

Dad's mum = land army, house wife

Dad's dad = Commando, business man

autobot lover -- (jel), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

actually, forgot that my mum's dad was also an engineer. And, my dad's mum helped out in the office of the family building firm.

autobot lover -- (jel), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

what is the Lost Wax Process?
& what is it in French?

cuspidorian (cuspidorian), Thursday, 16 October 2003 08:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought that notion was disproven to everyone besides really dumb hippies?

Really dumb hippies are not the people that believe this myth - I think you'll find it's really dumb Tories.

kate (kate), Thursday, 16 October 2003 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)

All you ever wanted to know about the lost wax process except what it's called in French (cire perdue).

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 16 October 2003 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)

maternal grandfather was a bookmaker (illegal here in nz).
maternal grandmother was a clerk and later a glamourous wife .
paternal grandfather apparently a builder of houses in gouroch (sp? near glasgow who swam every day in the clyde
paternal grandmother was a domestic goddess

hellbaby (hellbaby), Thursday, 16 October 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Maternal grandfather: owned a fruit&veg shop in a suburban shopping centre in the 50s (?) then sold it and started up a wholesale fruit&veg distributor selling to restaurants, hospitals etc. He sold it (and its very large valuable piece of Canberra land) some time back and I believe made a tidy sum out of it. He now does loads of good work for Rotary and the church and has recieved an Order of Australia medal. Hes in his 80s and taught himself how to use Mac computers really comprehensively. Damn cool man.
Maternal grandmother: housewife all life afaik. Very much like me. Doesn't drive. Had a depressive episode in 60s no one talks about but Ive been told she ended up having ECG and everything (yuk). I think I inherited a lot from her.

Paternal grandfather: no idea. He died when I was two, but theyre from out bush, so I think it was farming.
Paternal step-grandad: a bastard. A really unpleasant man. Dead now, too. Don't know what he did, if anything, apart from drink and gamble and yell at the kids.
Paternal grandmother: not sure, which is a worry! Housewife perhaps. She got alzhimers late in life and has passed on now.

I know a lot less about my dads family than my mums.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 17 October 2003 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Maternal grandfather: Carpenter, then Philadelphia cop, then hall monitor (as semi-retirement job). He trained to be a carpenter, I'm not sure how much time he spent actually doing it. I vaguely remember my mother saying that he wasn't able to find work (or not enough anyway) as a carpenter during the Depression.

Maternal grandfather: Methodist minister.

Grandmothers: no paid work outside of the house that I know of.

Al Andalous (Al Andalous), Friday, 17 October 2003 00:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Paternal grandfather - a mine manager in South Africa, Rhodesia, and later, Northern Ontario.

Paternal grandmother - a "flying nurse" in the South African bush. She continued in nursing throughought the rest of her life (whenever she wasn't hospitalized herself) and spent some time working at Toronto's Hospital For Sick Children (Sick Kids).

Maternal grandmother - an actress, musician (stage and some tv) elocution teacher, (apparently) domineering housewife.

Maternal grandfather - can't remember. I never met him.

Kim (Kim), Friday, 17 October 2003 00:56 (twenty-two years ago)

(Wait, that should be "paternal grandfather: Methodist minister.")

Al Andalous (Al Andalous), Friday, 17 October 2003 01:21 (twenty-two years ago)

!throughought! oh good grief...

Kim (Kim), Friday, 17 October 2003 01:53 (twenty-two years ago)

you know, I'm not really sure.

My maternal grandparents met while working at the Merchandise Mart in Chicago.

I just found this family history thing my mom typed up.
Her dad worked at American Can with his brother. Then was in the Army during WWII even though his job enabled him to receive a deferment. Met my grandma at Montgomery Wards, then back to the Can Co., then various jobs with hotel supplies companies, then tried selling cemetary plots all over Illinois, then hired by a relative to work at a glass store on the south side.
Also says he started having war flashbacks during his last year of life--he used to just tell funny stories about those times. Yet another example of the things my parents don't tell me. (I was 20 before I knew my uncle was my mom's half-brother, not, um, full-brother)

oops (Oops), Friday, 17 October 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Paternal grandfather: farmer
Paternal grandmother: housewife?
Maternal grandfather: I keep forgetting to ask, but I assume it was industrial because he was involved with a union.
Maternal grandmother: worked in a department store after her husband died; don't know if she worked outside the home before then. Her father was a pharmacist.

j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 17 October 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

You know, reading through this thread is kinda interesting. I get this vague feeling of inadequacy every time I read of grandparents who had "high falutin'" type careers, and then after a couple of posts like those I breathe a sigh of relief when I read of someone's grandparents being "factory workers" or "farmers" or similar. Hurrah for having "regular folks" for grandparents! *grins*

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 18 October 2003 02:43 (twenty-two years ago)

PG: former president of the USA
PG: former first lady
MG: former secretary of state
MG: started the first womens movement

gayson, Saturday, 18 October 2003 03:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Paternal Grandad: don't remember what the hell he did (died when I was 9)
Maternal Grandad: contractor/rogue
Maternal Gran: London post office supervisor for 25 years (retired)
Paternal Gran: Nurse for 30 years (retired)

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Saturday, 18 October 2003 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Dee I'd rather have the working-class in my past. I've never been keen to be associated with anything "high-falutin'". I'm a reverse snob.

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

It's absolutely true that a sizeable portion of the American lower class was a bit "shady". I just finished reading a great book called "The Outfit" about organized crime's contributions to American culture. Seems to be the American way, in fact. Anyway, my maternal grandmother was a steelworker, maternal gf was a steelworker & bartender. Paternal grandfather was a railroad worker and my paternal grandmother was a nanny and later worked in the Chicago stockyards.

Kerry (dymaxia), Monday, 20 October 2003 01:22 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...

My maternal grandmother was a physics teacher at a Catholic high school. She was the only physics major in her class at Agnes Scott (an all-girls' school, she wanted to go to GA Tech but they didn't accept girls at the time) and then in the '70s she went on to get a master's degree in Computer Science from GT. She was instrumental in getting me involved in computers from an early age -- she taught my brother and I to make programs in BASIC when we were kids (though obv. at the time I didn't have the complex insight to make anything useful).

Right now I'm reading through a folder of old programs she'd written in her free time. This one is labeled "Plotter Programs to Draw Circuit Diagrams" and was written in the early '80s. She died last summer; I miss her, she was the shit.

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 14 July 2007 22:42 (eighteen years ago)

great thread idea

grandfathers: truck driver/warehouse worker, milkman
grandmothers: kennel owner, housewife

very Detroit

jergïns, Saturday, 14 July 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

M. grandfather: Philadelphia cop
M. grandmother: Philadelphia housewife

P. grandfather: Methodist minister
P. grandmother: Methodist minister's wife

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 14 July 2007 22:56 (eighteen years ago)

Oops, I did this already under a short-lived name. I didn't see that because I just did a "Find."

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 14 July 2007 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

M. grandfather: electrical engineer/vice-president of Scientific Atlanta, died before I was born
M. grandmother: teacher

P. grandfather: not sure of his career history, he made signs for a while (now retired)
P. grandmother: housewife, church lady

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 14 July 2007 23:02 (eighteen years ago)

Father's father: worked for the railroad. Can't remember exactly what job, probably station agent in Quincy. (A town that doesn't exist anymore.)

Father's mother: farm wife, mother of 13. (One died in infancy.)

Mother's father: no idea, I should ask my mom sometime.

Mother's mother: nurse; in later years, live-in nurse/assistant. She occasionally took care of people 20 years her junior. (PS, she's still hanging in there, will be 111 in nine days.)

Rock Hardy, Saturday, 14 July 2007 23:10 (eighteen years ago)

oh I didn't even say back then that my maternal grandmother was also a sometime DJ on the CBC as well - some Scottish music hour I think.

Kim, Saturday, 14 July 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

this really is a great thread idea. congrats

Surmounter, Saturday, 14 July 2007 23:40 (eighteen years ago)

Maternal grandfather: Coal miner, then 4 years Army service in WWII, then railroad brakeman.
Maternal grandmother: Worked at a rayon plant for 15 years, then held various light factory jobs for several years. Currently a greeter at Wal-Mart.

Paternal grandmother: Worked in a department store in NYC, then did seamstress work at home, then worked as a secretary in various capacities.
Paternal grandfather: No idea - never met the man. I know he was an amateur boxer, but beyond that I haven't a clue.

Phil D., Saturday, 14 July 2007 23:57 (eighteen years ago)

Wow Rock, your awesome Gramma is still going strong! Thats fantastic :D

Trayce, Sunday, 15 July 2007 00:06 (eighteen years ago)

One grandad

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0191235/

The other

Laurence Bradshaw, did the Karl Marx sculpture in Highgate cemetary amongst other things

Was a feature on The Last Word, with my grandma being interviewed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/lastword_14apr2006.shtml

Jarlrmai, Sunday, 15 July 2007 00:27 (eighteen years ago)

Maternal Grandma: as a teen sang with jazz big bands, then worked for Jewish social services, became an activist/organizer and folk-singer, eventually became a psychologist/therapist

Maternal Grandpa: Also worked for Jewish social services (where he met my grandma), served in Army in WWII, became a psychologist

Paternal Grandma: piano player for silent movie houses, then homemaker

Paternal Grandpa: suitnmaker, professional old bastard

Hurting 2, Sunday, 15 July 2007 00:52 (eighteen years ago)

I posted on here before, but my paternal grandfather finally made it onto Amazon

Yes it's a book on potato diseases. Yes, I acknowlege that DNA may have affected my Devo worship.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 15 July 2007 00:54 (eighteen years ago)

Maternal grandpa rode the rails in the depression and then ran a general store and a lake ice-fishing business with my grandma.

Paternal grandpa: security guard for a car manufacturing plant. Grandma was a homemaker.

franny glass, Sunday, 15 July 2007 01:23 (eighteen years ago)

I know the move from blue collar to white collar over the past 50 years has been well-documented, but our individual stories are a pretty striking reminder.

jergïns, Sunday, 15 July 2007 01:40 (eighteen years ago)

I'm probably unusual in having had two white collar grandparents and a business owning grandparent.

Hurting 2, Sunday, 15 July 2007 01:43 (eighteen years ago)

paternal gf: postmaster
paternal gm: jr. high science teacher

maternal gf: military man turned factory-to-dealer furniture salesman
maternal gm: housewife, full-time worrier

will, Sunday, 15 July 2007 02:39 (eighteen years ago)

111!!
My grandmother lived to be 102 and her grave is awesome - born:1898 died:2001
She saw centuries and milleniums!

She was a bit dotty at the end - you can't really bitch about awareness from someone who is 102.
people tried to comfort me "Hey, so sorry that your gramdmother died."
"she was 102 years old!"
"Wow!"
"Yup."

Grandfather: Insurance. It has become a family theme. Lots of people work for Teh Hartford.

My Scottish side:
grandfather trained race horses at Ayr and worked in the mines in Ochiltree.
Fierce grandmother birthed 10 children. The first died in WWI.
Both grandparents died before I was born.
(My father was the youngest of the ten children, and he was 44 when I was born).
My father served in WWII - wacky! His brother died, etc.
And he is also dead.
As are most of his sisters.
I have one lovely auntie left, and one awful auntie who will live to be 186 years old because she is so mean and awful.
All of my aunts are/were nurses.
I think I have ruined this thread.
It was totally worth it.

aimurchie, Sunday, 15 July 2007 03:08 (eighteen years ago)

Mother's father 1: Constructing/contracting (I think)
Mother's father 2: Farmer
Mother's mother: Didn't work, as far as I know

Father's parents: Actually, a good question - no idea: died before I was born/when I was v. young

mitya, Sunday, 15 July 2007 05:58 (eighteen years ago)

maternal grandfather: merchant seaman
maternal grandmother: housewife

paternal grandfather: naval officer
paternal grandmother: housewife

my dad was a naval officer too, and so was his dad's dad.

jabba hands, Sunday, 15 July 2007 06:07 (eighteen years ago)

MAT GRNDF: farmer
MAT GRNDM: farmer's wife
PAT GRNDF: aircraft mechanic
PAT GRNDM: aircraft mechanic's wife

iiiijjjj, Sunday, 15 July 2007 06:08 (eighteen years ago)

GF (dad's side): worked at the railroad (?). Not sure what he did exactly, something with maintenance or electricity.
GM (dad's side): Teacher, but had to take an (alchololic induced) break

GF (mom's side): *drawer* at boat factory
GM (dad's side): housewife (before marriage used to make and sell her hats)

nathalie, Sunday, 15 July 2007 11:31 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, mom's side in the last line of course

nathalie, Sunday, 15 July 2007 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

paternal grandfather -- worked for Black Star Coal Co in Kentucky for 50 years, beginning as messenger boy age 14 around 1907 and retiring as an executive in 1958.

paternal grandmother -- worked as secretery for a few years before marriage, then did the homemaker/childrearing thing.

maternal grandfather -- accountant/bookeeper for PennElec, the electric company for about 40 years. a genius autodidact, upon retirement he indulged his longtime hobby of (verrrry cautiously) playing the stockmarket. well into his 80s down in Florida the local stockbrokers were calling him for tips.

maternal grandmother -- afaik she never had a job besides wife/mom.

m coleman, Sunday, 15 July 2007 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

Paternal grandfather - farmer (in Nebraska; moved to California during the dustbowl years)
Paternal grandmother - farmer's wife and mother of three; I'm named after her

Maternal grandfather - served in the Merchant Marines in WWII as captain, loved it
Maternal grandmother - wife, mother of three, later worked as insurance adjuster after their divorce

2for25, Sunday, 15 July 2007 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

M grandfather and grandmother - both were religious teachers.

P grandfather - made tons of money in telecommunications from the late 1950s right up to the 80s. Unfortunately after his death in '91, most of it was subsequently squandered away by my dad's siblings through a series of bad investments.
P grandmother - housewife.

Roz, Sunday, 15 July 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

Very much 'unskilled' working class:
1)worked in a cake shop for several decades
2)various: inc. delivering doughnuts and something or other in a gasworks
lived in tiny rented place with outdoor toilet
3)various: inc. window cleaner and school caretaker
4)various: inc. cleaner and working in a munitions factory during the second world war
lived in council house and then (from mid-70s) council flat

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

grandmas both housewives mostly

p grandpa: dairy farmer turned real estate agent

m grandpa: phone company

p grandma's father: miner in nevada

strgn, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

Maternal grandmother: homemaker, married quite late, was told she'd never have kids then had 4
Maternal grandfather: draftsman, Seabee during WWII, worked his way up to head gear designer @ GM, reason #1 I became an engineer.

Paternal grandmother: farm wife, took over being postmaster after my grandfather was killed until forced to retire at 72, died last year aged 93. I dreamt of her last week, we were doing laundry, sorting socks. It was such a peaceful dream and I was happy when I woke up, then so sad when I remembered she was gone. She was a force of nature and I lived in terror of her judgment.

Paternal grandfather: farmer, school bus driver, postmaster of our small town. Killed when I was 3 1/2 by an exploding food stand at a Holiday on Ice show, 3 weeks before JFK was shot.

Jaq, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

:0

strgn, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

here's my grandfather's book

No wonder Elvis Telecom and I have always got on, with grandfathers who wrote about botany. Though I suspect potato blight is somewhat cooler than orchids and rare grasses.

Gosh, he was a handsome devil, according to his official biography...

http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/history/gilliland.jpg

Masonic Boom, Monday, 16 July 2007 10:16 (eighteen years ago)

My mum's dad left school, went straight into National Service, worked in a shoe factory for the next 45 years (while also raising my mother on his own, which was no mean feat for a single man in the Fifties) then died about three weeks after retiring.

Hello Sunshine, Monday, 16 July 2007 10:19 (eighteen years ago)

- grandfather i: voice of superman, various radio gigs, "idea man" for ad agency, insurance salesman, full-time retiree
- grandfather ii: methodist minister

neither grandmother worked a day in their lives

Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 July 2007 10:20 (eighteen years ago)

Maternal:
Grandmother - I don't really know what she did. I know she worked in a pickle factory for years. Also she went to work as an au pair in the USA just after WWII (in Brooklyn)
Grandfather - he ran away from home, so I don't really know. But, I just remembered, my mum telling me that, during WWII, he used to tour the back courts of Glasgow doing a close harmony singing act with a couple of women and people would throw them coins and stuff - unbelievable! - but my great granny wouldn't allow my mum or my uncle to talk to him

Paternal:
Grandmother - ran away from home. No idea.
Grandfather - he was a labourer. My dad told me used to "tim sand boats" and I had no idea what he was talking about

Tom D., Monday, 16 July 2007 10:26 (eighteen years ago)

I've been trying for ages to google my granny's books, but can't find them. :-(

Masonic Boom, Monday, 16 July 2007 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

At risk of reviving another thread, I'm compelled to point out:

http://www.facade.com/celebrity/photo/John_Dillinger.jpg
+
http://www.facade.com/celebrity/photo/George_Orwell.jpg
+
http://www.methuen.co.uk/images/475/0413750000.jpg
=
http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/history/gilliland.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 16 July 2007 10:59 (eighteen years ago)

Well, you get the idea

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 16 July 2007 11:00 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/40/106764847_c8b0947d98_o.jpg

My grandfather and me. (Mother's side.)

nathalie, Monday, 16 July 2007 11:05 (eighteen years ago)

Maternal GF: Red Cross disaster relief worker
Maternal GM: housewife

Paternal GF: WWII combat vet/Cleveland radio "personality"/alkie
Paternal GM: Substitute teacher in Cleveland school system

All are deceased.

Bill Magill, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

Maternal GF: worked in office of fire station, not sure what exactly he did
Maternal GM: cleaner/home help for elderly

Paternal GF: no idea, don't think he had a job since I was born
Paternal GM: various factory/warehouse stuff I think

Only maternal GF is dead, but I don't see the paternal ones anyway so they might as well be, really.

Colonel Poo, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

Maternal GF: Roofer.
Maternal GM: Shop detective, worked in a carpet factory, etc.

Paternal GF: Civil engineer.
Paternal GM: Nurse.

Grandmothers are still alive.

jim, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

Maternal GF: Insurance Agent
Maternal GM: Nurse

Paternal GF: Jazz Guitarist
Paternal GM: Jazz Vocalist. Later, Nurse

All no longer with us.

John Justen, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

Maternal GF Biological: professional drunk
Maternal GF Step: Pharmacist
Maternal GM: Housewife

Paternal GF Biological: Soldier killed in WW2 - professional diver
Paternal GF Step: Chef/restaurant owner
Paternal GM: Chef/restaurant owner
All of the paternal ones were German and lived/live there.

Only maternal GM still alive.

ENBB, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

maternal grandfather - served in the army in WWII, then had a working class job but I don't know what precisely, something in railroad or shipping iron ore
maternal grandmother - housewife

paternal grandfather - electrician in the iron ore mines, iron range of minnesota. UMWA. those guys went in the newly dug mine shafts to rig up lighting so the actual miners could go in and work.
paternal grandmother - housewife mostly, also hospital volunteer

daria-g, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

Wait - that's wrong. Only PATERNAL GM still alive. My maternal GM died in 1958. Oops. xpost to self.

ENBB, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

Maternal grandfather = account executive for Royal Bank of Canada in Cuba (pre-Fidel), then New York
Maternal grandmother = worked at RBC; in the States she was a food stamp adminstrative manager for HRS.

Maternal grandmother = still working (at 83! yay!) as a nurse for Miami-Dade County.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

*"Paternal" grandmother is the third entry

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

As previously but liking the revived thread:

*paternal side (the ones who immigrated from mexico)

g-father: migrant farmworker, steelworker at US Steel, mechanic, Catholic deacon
g-mother: school cafeteria worker, housecleaner (and mother of 5)

*maternal side

real g-father: mother never knew but he was a motorcycling bad boy from Austin
step-grandfather: carpenter (deceased)
g-mother: licensed vocational nurse (deceased)

Ms Misery, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

Maternal GM - Nurse, then mom and housewife for 25+ years for five kids. BUT, and this is one of my favorite stories about her, without a driver's license her whole life in suburban Philly (Norristown, mostly), she would, each and every year, come downtown and renew her nurses license just in case. She was AWESOME.
Maternal GF - Sales rep for Merck, then real estate salesman.

Paternal GM - Emmigrated from Poland in the 20s (I believe), worked secretarial and retail jobs (Including Strawbridge and Clothier) for most of her working life, I think.
Paternal GF - Philly Cop (some GREAT photos of him on his big, old Harley back in the day), then bus driver, then driver for various older folks. Was a Mason.

Despite some addiction issues here or there, but some solid folks, the four of them. Just lost the last one, PGM, about two months ago - she was 90 and still kickin' ass at cards. I miss her a lot.

B.L.A.M., Monday, 16 July 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

Maternal grandmother - housewife (I think she DID do paid work at some stage but I don't know what) (alive)
Maternal grandfather - accountant and Worshipful Master of local Masonic Lodge (dead)

Paternal grandmother - no idea (might be alive)
Paternal grandfather - no idea (dead)

Archel, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

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and what, Sunday, 19 October 2008 21:41 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

My grandad at work

http://images.google.com/images?q=Lawrence+Bradshaw+source:life

Jarlrmai, Sunday, 7 December 2008 13:30 (seventeen years ago)

paternal grandfather: lawyer/city official
paternal grandmother: housewife (4 kids)

maternal grandfather: business owner (store, restaurant)
materanal grandmother: housewife (7 kids)

redmond, Sunday, 7 December 2008 13:35 (seventeen years ago)

Paternal Grandfather: manufacturing engineer
Maternal Grandfather: worked in a factory, not sure doing what exactly

both Grandmothers: housewives

Me and Ruth Lorenzo, Rollin' in the Benzo (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 December 2008 13:44 (seventeen years ago)

paternal grandfather: cattle rancher until disabled
maternal grandmother: ranch wife, I guess, and then spent most of her later years taking care of my grandfather
maternal grandfather: some kind of drifter
maternal grandmother: did civil service office work

akm, Sunday, 7 December 2008 14:47 (seventeen years ago)

Paternal GP: Air Traffic Controller (interesting fact: one of the first 13 black men picked to integrate the military)
Paternal GM: Cleaning lady
Maternal GP: Circulation manager of the Seattle Times
Maternal GM: Baker/Caterer

Super Cat (The Reverend), Sunday, 7 December 2008 15:03 (seventeen years ago)

maternal: my grandfather was a writer and ended up as an ad executive. his father was an emmy award winning directer and producer and general manhattan gadfly. his father was a london banker. my grandmother was dutch old money, new amsterdam style, and I think was a teacher at some point. her parents were god knows what.

paternal: my grandfather boxed during the great depression, saved up money, became a business and property owner in an upscale NYC suburban town, and eventually mayor for life. grandmother: homemaker.

burt_stanton, Sunday, 7 December 2008 15:08 (seventeen years ago)

both grandmothers psychologists one grandfather a geologist the other a concrete salesman WILL U LOOK AT THAT PEOPLE

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Sunday, 7 December 2008 15:13 (seventeen years ago)

maternal gm: illustrated department store ads for the newspaper, later worked in framing shop.
maternal pf: carpenter. built lots of things, including their house. he also had a real knack for doing crown molding (actual molding, not putting up a piece of wood). wanted to be an artist, but it was not allowed.

paternals: no idea. i think salesman (lol generic) and housewife?

very quotatious (tehresa), Sunday, 7 December 2008 15:33 (seventeen years ago)

Maternal Grandma worked as a Real Estate agent, a Tax preparer, ran an antique shop, and now sells homemade jewlery and antiques online.
Maternal Grandad is a Nuclear Pharmacist. He does mostly regular clinical work at a hospial, but he' sometimes called in to do research and run The Cyclotron.

Srsly, Cyclotron.

Pats, steelworker and a homemaker (6 kids).

en i see kay, Sunday, 7 December 2008 16:07 (seventeen years ago)

my geologist grandpa fukd w/nukes for real up at livermore

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Sunday, 7 December 2008 16:09 (seventeen years ago)

I don't know what any of my grandparents did except my mom's dad who was an asst sec of labor during the Eisenhower admin

beyonc'e (max), Sunday, 7 December 2008 16:31 (seventeen years ago)

Grandads fuckin' w/ nukes chest bump to jho.

en i see kay, Sunday, 7 December 2008 16:37 (seventeen years ago)

booya!

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Sunday, 7 December 2008 16:39 (seventeen years ago)

dad's dad: blacksmith, farmer, puttin babies in ladies
dad's mom: housewife, baby factory (14 kids, y'know)
mom's dad: POW camp guard in WWII, no idea what else he did
mom's mom: housewife, presumably

reggaeton shark (salsa shark), Sunday, 7 December 2008 16:45 (seventeen years ago)

they was all teachers

warmsherry, Sunday, 7 December 2008 16:51 (seventeen years ago)

Mom's dad: banker
Mom's mom: cleaning lady, wallpaper hanger, housewife, person who sat in the fire tower to watch for fires, convenience store manager

Stepdad's mom: cafeteria lady
Stepdad's dad: I don't know, actually. He died young, before I came along.

Dad's dad: Baptist preacher, all around creep
Dad's mom: I don't know this either. I don't talk to these people.

atty at LOL (Jenny), Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:22 (seventeen years ago)

Dad's Dad: Owned a bicycle store, later ran a bike wholesale company.
Dad's Mom: Housewife.

Mom's Dad: Ran several different Italian-American restaurants.
Mom's Mom: Worked in restaurants with Grandpa, later worked in a nursing home.

Moodles, Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:36 (seventeen years ago)

Mom's dad - Farmer
Mom's mom - Farmer's wife, after he died worked at a grocery store

Dad's dad - Farmer
Dad's mom - Elementary school teacher

M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:41 (seventeen years ago)

Interesting thread!

paternal grandfather: metal spinning
maternal grandmother: I don't know but now I want to know
maternal grandfather: carpenter
maternal grandmother: shop worker

Almost all the women on my mothers side worked in Woolworths. Very handy when I was a child. Also my grandfather was a carpenter for Maynards sweet manufacturers and so I got lots of free sweets!

Holden McGroin (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:48 (seventeen years ago)

pgf: worked in a power plant like homer j. simpson
pgm: cleaned houses, i think she still cleans houses at age 74 (this side is stereotypical workaholic irish immigrants i guess)

mgf: independent trucker, mechanic, landscaper
mgm: owned/ran an ice cream store

schwww im tired (harbl), Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:52 (seventeen years ago)

later had some involvement in the glass industry i've never fully understood; involved traveling

was a sales rep of some kind, i think. also has always been/is still involved in neighborhood/condo boards.

gabbneb, Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:55 (seventeen years ago)

maternal grandfather #2 - (my grandmother remarried) businessman (who also owned factory?) and socialist.

textiles, including/especially(?) sequins

gabbneb, Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:58 (seventeen years ago)

#1 may have lost business in the depression?

gabbneb, Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:58 (seventeen years ago)

maternal grandfather: newspaper typesetter, navy in wartime
maternal grandmother: domestic servant, housewife, shop saleswoman, auxiliary firefighter(!) in wartime

paternal grandfather: fisherman, sailor, navy in wartime on same ship as other grandfather by complete coincidence (actually, on seeing that written down it seems so unlikely that I'm coming to doubt it myself - need to check that out)
paternal grandmother: housewife, all-round matriarch

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 7 December 2008 19:09 (seventeen years ago)

maternal grandfather: worked in the printing business (movable type probably)
maternal grandmother: housewife mostly, some sewing

paternal grandfather: small-time farmer, tons of different jobs besides that including rat catcher
maternal grandmother: housewife with lots and lots of kids (like 10 or something)

Ludo, Sunday, 7 December 2008 20:31 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

my grandma was a "donut girl" w/ the red cross during WWII-- enlisted right out of high school and went overseas pretty much.

my mom just sent me this badass picture of her check it out:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x18/gr8080/grandma_monkey.jpg

gr8080, Friday, 16 January 2009 03:59 (sixteen years ago)

I love this photo!! She's quite beautiful (your grandmother, not the monkey).

My maternal grandfather was a bridge builder...I don't know the word for it but he poured the concrete that formed the foundations of rural bridges over creeks, etc...helped to build the breakwater in Warrnambool, etc. Then was a driver in WWII, and a prisoner of war. I don't know if he went back to his original job after the war or not.

Maternal grandmother was a bit of everything...telephone operator when she left school at 16, i think she worked at the post office for a while too, then worked in an artillery factory during the war...then housewife mainly when my aunt and mum were born, though she did a ton of charity work around town, lots of sports clubs and social clubs and church organisation...she was a busy lady. And my hero.

Paternal grandparents: don't know a ton about them. My paternal grandfather was a farmer, and my grandmother was a nurse, then housewife. But they turned out to be my dad's adoptive parents and as I've gotten older I've learned that they were jerks to him [wrote him out of the will, sent him to live in town when he was 16, etc] so I have soured on them over time.

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 16 January 2009 04:07 (sixteen years ago)

GILF

ichard Thompson (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 January 2009 04:07 (sixteen years ago)

^yellowcard

gr8080, Friday, 16 January 2009 04:34 (sixteen years ago)

three years pass...

I just found this photo of my grandparents inside of a plastic bag with a bunch of other photos in it. I can't stop looking at it.

My grandma was a dietician at the hospital and she met my grandpa when he came through and needed to be fed. Grandpa was a (??) at a company that manufactured (??).

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7075/7188363541_4259ff5202_z.jpg

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 15 June 2012 02:34 (thirteen years ago)

That is a fucking cool photo, period.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2012 02:35 (thirteen years ago)

Wow. Amazing photo.

emil.y, Friday, 15 June 2012 02:41 (thirteen years ago)

i can see u!

mookieproof, Friday, 15 June 2012 02:47 (thirteen years ago)

Maternal Grandfather: Psychologist
Maternal Grandmother: Psychologist
Paternal Grandfather: Suit maker
Paternal Grandmother: played piano in the silent movie houses

eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 15 June 2012 02:49 (thirteen years ago)

Grandpa's name was Furman, but everyone called him Tom. I like the creepy shadow and the placement of their hands.

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 15 June 2012 02:59 (thirteen years ago)

hell of a photo

call all destroyer, Friday, 15 June 2012 03:00 (thirteen years ago)

why is she in bed? who is taking the photo? where is his left hand?

mookieproof, Friday, 15 June 2012 03:01 (thirteen years ago)

LL that rules!!

maternal grandfather: electrical engineer
maternal grandmother: computer programmer
paternal grandfather: sign maker

and I just realized my maternal grandmother's father has his own wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Rosselot

mississippi joan hart (crüt), Friday, 15 June 2012 03:05 (thirteen years ago)

p. grandfather worked for the irs
p. grandmother was a secretary at harvard biz school

m. grandfather worked for the phone company
m. grandmother was a homemaker

call all destroyer, Friday, 15 June 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)

why is she in bed? who is taking the photo? where is his left hand?
i have no idea
i don't even know if he had siblings or what his parents' names were

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 15 June 2012 03:10 (thirteen years ago)

wait yes i do
there was theodore and gail
they have a family graveyard in florida

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 15 June 2012 03:11 (thirteen years ago)

p. grandfather somehow involved mining
p. grandmother housewife
m. grandfather chief of police
m. grandmother housewife

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 15 June 2012 03:14 (thirteen years ago)

here is another one of them playing ping pong
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7215/7373697818_4f88d1577f_z.jpg

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 15 June 2012 03:15 (thirteen years ago)

Maternal grandmother: HRS administrator until retirement in 1990.
" grandfather: executive for Royal Bank of Canada's Havana and NYC offices

Paternal grandmother: county nurse and caregiver until retirement in 2008.
" stepgrandfather: trucker

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 June 2012 03:18 (thirteen years ago)

p. bio gfather Olympic athlete and soldier killed in war
p. step gfather chef/restaurant owner
p. grandmother chef/restaurant owner

m. grandfather pharmacist
m. grandmother housewife

wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 15 June 2012 03:21 (thirteen years ago)

Dad's dad was a fireman. He was sent to WW2 and ran a flamethrower in a foxhole. He died of cancer, family is pretty sure it's because he helped clean up the SL-1 nuclear meltdown. He died when my dad was eight.

His wife started working for the post office after my grandpa died, and worked her way up into almost the highest position at the post office. Retelling these stories of my dad's about people who died decades ago makes it clear to me I have no idea what's going on. Anyway, she was going to get promoted and the man interviewing her intimidated her out of the position by saying there was just no way she could meet the job requirement of lifting 80 lbs.

My grandma on my mom's side joined the Navy when she was younger. I talked to her about it a few years ago and it was the only time I'd heard her sounding cheeky. It was a real rebellion against her parents. She worked various kind of housecleaning and janitorial jobs after she got married.

My mom's dad was an alcoholic and a self-employed crazoid, by all accounts. He kept bees and pigs in the tiny yard of their 500 sq ft house. He was really into finding valuable coins and I guess he thought of it as kind of a career. He got kicked out of a lot of banks for harassing tellers about trading in coins.

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Friday, 15 June 2012 03:27 (thirteen years ago)

p. grandfather was a scout for the Cleveland Indians for a while.
p. grandmother worked at an employment agency.

m. grandfather was a steel worker.
m. grandmother was a homemaker.

to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Friday, 15 June 2012 03:28 (thirteen years ago)

LL's photos are fantastic

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Friday, 15 June 2012 03:29 (thirteen years ago)

also at least three of my grand'rents worked in tobacco for at least a while, which is kinda what everyone round those parts did.

to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Friday, 15 June 2012 03:30 (thirteen years ago)

x-post Yeah they are. So many mysteries in the bed one. It looks like a movie still.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 15 June 2012 03:30 (thirteen years ago)

I have no idea what most of my grandparents did. One worked for the Wildlife Service. The rest just sat around a lot.

Jeff, Friday, 15 June 2012 03:33 (thirteen years ago)

A+ photos gr8080 & LL!

brödinger's cat (Pillbox), Friday, 15 June 2012 03:43 (thirteen years ago)

p grandfather was in the free french forces during ww2 and met my grandmother in a hospital where she was nursing. he then worked in the paper manufacturing industry and my grandmother became a housewife

m grandfather was in the army as a fighter pilot and then when he left ended up working in paper manufacturing.
m grandmother was housewife and then started working in local politics.

only 1 of my 4 grandparents is still alive and i really regret not having being old enough to talk about all those things they did. i know one my older cousins got my grandfather to talk in detail about his time in the free french forces & how he escaped occupied france (he might have recorded it too, not sure) and i also remember a couple of stories but i'd love to know more.

Jibe, Friday, 15 June 2012 08:48 (thirteen years ago)

On my mother's side, my grandmother was a journalist after the war but gave it up to raise a family. My grandfather lied about his age when he was sixteen to get into the army during the war and served in the Desert Rats in Italy and North Africa. There are some great photos of him cycling around the Pyramids. Afterwards, he became a property surveyor and ran an estate agency.

On my father's side, my grandmother raised eleven children (i think). My grandfather was a politician of some description but gave it up when he was sixty to become an imam and community leader of sorts. He also ran a charity undertaker's, burying people whose families couldn't afford to pay for it to be done. I helped out with making some coffins, one summer.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:08 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/1lSOM.png

The family hearse.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:14 (thirteen years ago)

woah

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:21 (thirteen years ago)

One of my grandfathers was an English teacher, the other was a craftsman for Slazenger and made crossbows and longbows in the days when that sort of thing was made out of wood.

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:24 (thirteen years ago)

Shari thats amazing and awesome :)

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:31 (thirteen years ago)

Also I'm always in awe of stories about young men of times gone by signing up willingly to head off to war. I guess they saw an opportunity to see the world and defend their country? Its sad to think we know better now, I guess. Not that I'm at all demeaning anyone who chooses the forces as a career, I have friends who have.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:32 (thirteen years ago)

dad's parents, both teachers. mum's dad a teacher and mum's mum a housewife.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

pat gf - industrial chemist
pat gm - possibly a translator
mat gf - manager of a market garden
mat gm - various, last job was in a supermarket

George Peppard Steak (snoball), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

Also I'm always in awe of stories about young men of times gone by signing up willingly to head off to war.

Yeah, I always wanted my grandfathers to tell me more about their wartime experiences. I know that one of them served in Egypt in WW2, but he'd never tell us a thing about and I sensed he was still quite traumatised by his time there, as he supposedly lost a lot of friends.

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:53 (thirteen years ago)

yeah I hear that a lot (not surprising!) and it makes me sad to think that maybe there was a more innocent time where men thought "I want to do the right thing by my country!" and strode into absolute horror. Now, with the advent of widespread media and hindsight, it'll never happen that way again. we lost way way too many good, innocent, well meaning men in their prime to such shit.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:58 (thirteen years ago)

mat gf- panzer division german army ww2, captured in France. Not sure what job he did after the war, tho he settled in England, because he was killed in a motorcycle accident long before I was born.

mat gm- also in the German Army, signals division stationed near the Russian front, apparently when the end of the war was in sight her and her friends were desperate to flee westwards to ensure they were captured by the Americans rather than the Russians. Moved to England became an accountant.

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 10:11 (thirteen years ago)

mat gf, ran a pharma company called carter-wallace...their big product was condoms
pat gf, no clue, hardly knew him
neither grandmas worked

Iago Galdston, Friday, 15 June 2012 10:19 (thirteen years ago)

My mum's dad ran an engineering firm, invented the horizontal bandsaw, provided the materials for the Lloyds building, bits of the barbican, St James' Park, Stamford Bridge and Watford's stadium. Also helped develop the machine that puts Maltesers in their packets. Also also developed and produced a range of motorised cars (that used petrol and everything) for children.
My mum's mum was a housewife.

My dad's dad was a university librarian.
My dad's mum was a teacher who was sacked for painting a student green.

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 15 June 2012 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

Father's side:
My grandfather was in the mines at 13, ran away to join the navy at 14, in 1914, and served as a career navy man until he retired at 50. He was a rating, then an NCO, until the advent of the second world war made the admiralty realise they needed competent seamen with commissions, not just public schoolboys. He became an officer in 1939. Absolutely no idea what he did after the navy. It was never mentioned in our family.
My grandmother was a housewife.

Mother's side
Grandfather worked on wholesale fruit markets in Liverpool and then Birmingham. Which meant my mum was the unusual child who ate fresh fruit during the rationing years. My grandmother worked in a munitions factory, then for many years in the Jacobs biscuits factory. Before she met my grandfather, she was for a couple of years the sweetheart of future England manager Joe Mercer, when he was an Everton player.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 15 June 2012 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

PS Paternal grandfather did the Arctic convoys to Murmansk and Archangel in the second world war.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 15 June 2012 11:05 (thirteen years ago)

That route sounds nightmarish.

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

So did mine. He was then involved in liberating Denmark in some fashion. We still have some swastika-emblazoned nautical equipment looted from German ships before they were scuttled. Being a practical man the booty is sextants and so forth, the big oil paintings of Bismarck were left in place to be consigned to the deep. Afterwards he skippered a fisheries protection vessel.

My maternal grandfather was also in the navy and ended the war based in Udine, but I don't know what he did there and it's all lost to memory I'm afraid. Afterwards he was a compositor, which aiui was the typesetting of newspaper pages for printing. We have a cartoon of him, carrying a ladle of hot metal, drawn by the resident cartoonist on his retirement.

My maternal grandmother worked at C&A. She was some kind of auxiliary firewoman during the war. When I went to register her death I was so tempted to put the latter for 'occupation', but was sensible and boring instead.

My paternal grandmother was probably the cleverest, but was mostly housewife and erstwhile schooldinnerlady. I believe she was in a munitions factory in the war, which other than visiting family may have been the only time she left her island.

I wish they were still around. I wish I'd asked them more stuff when they were.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 15 June 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

maternal grandfather: returned from ww2 with no real work history, and wound up owning a steel mill. some real horatio alger shit, at least until the steel market collapsed in this country. which explains to some extent was how i was born into a working poor household while my mom grew up wearing kiddie fur coats. i dont think my grandfather's heroic boozing really helped with the business stuff either, mind you.

maternal grandmother: betty draper, essentially, until aforementioned collapse of business, after whic she worked in a department store.

paternal grandfather: fuck if i know. took off when my dad was a kid.

paternal grandmother: literal shut-in.

me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 15 June 2012 11:32 (thirteen years ago)

my grandfather also signed up for service rather than be drafted.

actually i think he signed up before the u.s. was even in the war.

me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 15 June 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)

Paternal grandfather: owned a restaurant through the '40s and '50s, later turned into my dad's/uncle's milk store.
Paternal grandmother: stay-at-home.
Maternal grandfather: because of poor health, I think he mostly took whatever he could get--odd jobs, handyman, etc.
Maternal grandmother: baked pies during the depression, later a switchboard operator.

I wish they were still around. I wish I'd asked them more stuff when they were.

I didn't really have the chance with my grandfathers, both died around the time I was five, but with my grandmothers, absolutely.

clemenza, Friday, 15 June 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

When you read down this thread and read the same thing so many times - "he served in WW2" – it's hard to quibble with the notion of a greatest generation. I know most of them had no choice in the matter, but still …

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 15 June 2012 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

Paternal grandfather: lots of odd jobs/manual labor, could never keep a job for very long because of his chronic health problems
Paternal grandmother: Country club hostess, she had a lot of gossipy stories related to the crazy rich people that went there

Maternal grandfather: Construction work, the highlight of which was going to Russia to work on the construction of a government building there. I have a lot of great communist memorabilia thanks to this.
Maternal grandmother: Homemaker

I found him in a Bon Ton ad (Nicole), Friday, 15 June 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

According to the internet, my maternal grandfather was gainfully employed by the Royal Australian Air Force from 12 July 1940 to 20 August 1945.

Gentlemen Take Instagram Photos (King Boy Pato), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

oooh beautiful and amazing photos LL, gr80! I must demand to see all grandparent photos available.

not sure what my mom's dad did except drink after korea.. I didn't know him well and he died when I was young :(
mom's mom did not work, but when my parents were ballers in the 80s they used to pay her to do our laundry/watch me
mom's stepdad was a truck driver

dad's mom worked in insurance, used computers in the 1980s like a boss (manager) and is still pretty handy with a computer
dad's stepdad was a carpenter and taught me to be handy and to appreciate graphic design. He used to build sets for Sears catalogues and the like, as well as their house and their cottage!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

My Grandparents' house flooded in the 90s and most of their photos were lost ;_; I have this great one of my Grandma but -not- Grandpa - scandalous! They installed a dance floor in their basement and a bar called 'the Dicks* Inn,' these people could party.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/61000_444925658577_5371505_n.jpg

*My maiden name

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

oh and I remember that my Grandma (pictured) was going to become a nurse but a transit strike kept her from being able to get to school, so she dropped out and started working in an office.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

i have a ton more -- those were just in the first batch to be scanned.

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

- my maternal grandpa was a pharmacist, owned his own store in small-town ontario and then did other pharmacy work when he sold the business. was in the navy during the war but his eyesight was bad so he ended up mostly playing piano and singing for everyone! he had over 100 songs memorized, mostly boogie-woogie 30/40s jazzy stuff and could play them all even in his last year of life at 88 years old. so i guess he was a pharmacist-musician.
- my maternal grandma went to pharmacy school but got pregs + married and then worked in my grandpa's shop and raised kids and then did other community things
- my paternal grandpa, did some airplane mechanic things, then real estate things, i'm totally vague on this one but he was a pretty smart guy
- my paternal grandma, i sadly really don't know and have never opened that conversation up with my dad, she smoked a lot and died in her early 50s :(
- my paternal step-grandma, from when she married my grandpa also did real-estate stuff, before that raised kids, sang in groups during the war effort.

it amazes me how much the war played a part in all of their young lives, but hey, Canada in the 30s/40s... world war: a really big fucking deal.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

I love this thread.

to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

what small town in Ontario, rrobyn?? god I wish I could walk around 1940s Canada just for a day.. a week.. my Grandparents were all just a bit too young for the war so had the odd jobs in the cities. I know my paternal Grandfather started off at the Heintzman's Piano Company when he was about 14, making deliveries! Grandpas & pianos! Mine never played, though.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

Han0ver!
yeah, i think people my age (mid-30s) are generally the tail-end of people who had grandparents in the war

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

Aww! I love little H! I've had to go there a few times for work.. so peaceful. I think owning a pharmacy in a town like that would be amazing. Would that I could switch between 2012 Toronto and let's say 1930s Markham on a whim.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

xpost no way rrrobyn. i'm 26, i have cousins as young as 15 and my grandparents were in the war. though my grandfather was quite young (17) when he left to take part in the war.

Jibe, Friday, 15 June 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

wow, i guess i am just always amazed by how far WWII reaches into the present day, even though i guess i shouldn't be surprised at all

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

xp I guess it all depends on if they were young or old brides - my Grandma had Dad at 21 but I guess your Grandfather would've been overseas around the time, so couldn't start the family til later!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

Here's my grandma washing dishes -- there are other b/w ones, but they're still buried in the box.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5336/7374743972_0f78dd3421_z.jpg

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

paternal grandfather was an engineer, i think at raytheon
paternal grandmother was an engineer too, not sure where but i know she got to work on one of those early mainframe computers

maternal grandfather was a biologist and chemist, during the war he worked on uranium extraction for the manhattan project, then was a college professor for most of his life
maternal grandmother is a crazy socialist/marxist, not sure what she did for work but i don't think she held any job for very long since she's unpleasantly argumentative

ciderpress, Friday, 15 June 2012 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

oh also my paternal grandparents retired early, moved to vermont, and ran an apple orchard for 15 years, which was the inspiration for my ilx username

ciderpress, Friday, 15 June 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

that's so funny that you know Han0ver, ffm! i lived there with my brothers for a year when i was 10 (long story) but otherwise hardly know it. it's pastoral, true, though there are some quainter towns in the area - really i think i'm just affected by my mom's dislike for it and why she left ontario and came out west after university!

that is a great pic!

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

Both grandfathers were farmers in Ohio and Pennsylvania, and both grandmothers never worked a day in their lives--they married in their late teens and were born ~1885-1905. (My mother was born in 1935 and my father was born in 1929.) All have been dead since the late Eighties.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 15 June 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

Well, at my old job I had to schedule routes all over Ontario & oversee scheduling for all over Canada so if there's a Dollarama, chances are I know it! So I didn't get to spend a lot of time there but we drove around, in the small towns we'd always tour a little as well as do our actual work. :)

xp
Love the dishes shot. Must convince husband to take pictures of me for grandkids to ooh and ahh over!

nice, ciderpress!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

Wait, I meant ~1895-1905. Sorry.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 15 June 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

Paternal grandfather - ran government printing press in Zanzibar
Paternal grandmother - housewife I think
Maternal grandather - worked in a munitions factory
Maternal grandmother - housewife and ran a dance school

Matt DC, Friday, 15 June 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

loving all these la lechera pics

my maternal grandfather was born in 1899 in london, moved to the US in the 20s or 30s and worked at the GE plant in erie PA for something like 50 years. he lived until 2001, so he saw 3 centuries, from gaslamp london to the internet age.

here's a picture of him circa 1909

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/1909.jpg

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

Awesome! And love the insane colourization in that!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

That is so cool! Esp the 3 centuries part.

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

my mother tinted the photo sometime in the 60s I think? I guess she invented colorization lol

my maternal grandmother worked as a sales clerk at the boston store in erie for many many years

not sure what my paternal grandparents did tbh

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

Paternal gran - stayed at home as far as I can tell
Paternal grandad - worked for the GPO, which coincidentally eventually morphed into the organisation I work for now.
Maternal gran - mainly organising posh military dinners and so-on - I am not sure whether she was ever paid for this or if it was just seen as a military wives responsibility?
Maternal grandad - teacher, brigadier and yacht deliverer

thomasintrouble, Friday, 15 June 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

amazingness on this thread

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it kind of boggles my mind that this laidback old guy I grew up hanging around with was like 23 when nosferatu came out

xps

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

xp It just looks like ordinary Victorian style tinting to me.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 15 June 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

making a list of stuff invented in his lifetime also bonkers

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

Maternal grandfather - my mum never met him, but I gather he was a solider when she was conceived/born. We've seen photos of him from a couple of decades later that appear to be marketing / press matrial for some kind of business, people round a table signing a document or something, but I have no idea what.

Maternal grandmother - worked in a shop, like a corner shop or post office or something.

Paternal grandfather - machined steel tools in a factory in Sheffield.

Paternal grandmother - I don't know.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

There were almanacs from 1905 in my paternal grandfather's house, and old-fashioned fire extinguishers (a glass bulb that you threw to the ground and smashed) in the barn.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 15 June 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it kind of boggles my mind that this laidback old guy I grew up hanging around with was like 23 when nosferatu came out
this is what i'm talking about!

these are my grandparents as i remember them. my grandpa died when i was 4, so this is a year before that. (they're both dead btw)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8011/7189510489_175ff3cf54_z.jpg

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Forgot to mention--how, I don't know--that my paternal grandfather served in the war too, I think, as a medic.

Paternal grandfather died when I was thirteen. Both grandmothers when I was in my early 20s. Maternal grandfather still alive. All things considered, I guess I was quite fortunate to have gotten to know all of them.

to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

Dad’s side: gpops was a boxer during the Great Depression and later became a successful businessman in the city where he lived. He was elected mayor of that city for two terms and left under mysterious circumstances. There’s a park somewhere in that city named after him.

Mom’s side: granddad started his career as a psy-ops officer in the army and ended it as the VP of public relations for an energy corporation (global warming isn’t real kinda crap). Love him all the same.

Spectrum, Friday, 15 June 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

old-fashioned fire extinguishers (a glass bulb that you threw to the ground and smashed) in the barn.
I know about these because of Auction Hunters or whichever random storage war show has Ton and the skinny brown haired dude on it, heh. They found a bunch in a Chicago storage unit.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

LL's photos are fantastic

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blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

Should we be instagraming these photos? Would make them look more authentic.

Jeff, Friday, 15 June 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

I am scanning original prints. Also, it pleases me that anyone is enjoying these pictures -- I'm the only grandchild of these people and my parents have let these photos sit in a bag inside a pink storage carton on the landing for 25 years, so someone should enjoy them.

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

i love those photos.

estela, Friday, 15 June 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

exactly what I was thinking of, Christine!

my great grandfather was a minister in Fernie, BC - I have a picture of them with my Grandma with unfortunate overexposure in the centre:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/61000_444925648577_5170794_n.jpg

Keep it coming, LL. The stuff I've posted is what I scanned when I lived with my Grandparents for a few months - wish I had more!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

Most of what my grandparents had disappeared when the bulk of the family moved to Minnesota in the Eighties. Sad to say.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 15 June 2012 14:32 (thirteen years ago)

I'm gonna bump this thread up to hippies! Grandpa, Grandma and my Dad (in overalls) on the far right. Grandma is same little girl as in above picture.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/61000_444925663577_5804223_n.jpg

I love old photos. I document everything so that in the future ours will be charmingly retro.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

who's top left in the back shirt? nice hair on that one!

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

That's my Aunt's exhusband (she's the one in the yellow shirt beside him.. my Dad's sister.) He ended up being gay. 0_o*

*0_o at him marrying her and the heartbreak that followed!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

My Grandma is channeling Little Orphan Annie there. Dog's the wrong colour though.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

paternal gf was an ESB overseer, he brought electricity to the island in the ?40s?. was also a fisherman, had a couple of boats. the family home was also a guesthouse, but my grandmother ruled that roost.

maternal gf was a small farmer, grandmother a farmer`s wife (ie a farmer but with kids and the house to look after too)

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

farmer / farmer / factory worker who sold eggs on the side / bartender

nuts spats (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

Both of my maternal grandparents own and run nurseries (of the botanical type). My maternal grandpa used to do some sort of hop chemistry thing for Guinness before that. He invents plants.

Don't really know about my paternal grandparents, I stopped seeing them when I was a kid and my dad buggered off, but I have a feeling that paternal grandfather was a fireman or had something to do with firefighters in general... this could be a completely and utterly wrong lateral-childhood-brain-move, though.

emil.y, Friday, 15 June 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

He invents plants.
so totally awesome

i have another set of grandparent photos to get to, but they are buried under a bunch of other stuff. eventually.

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 15 June 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

xpost no way rrrobyn. i'm 26, i have cousins as young as 15 and my grandparents were in the war. though my grandfather was quite young (17) when he left to take part in the war

Heh: I have cousins who are 5 years old, and our common grandfather would've been nearly thirty when the war broke out, so there must be plenty kids yet unborn whose grandparents were running convoys and breaking out of pow camps. What a long shadow.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 15 June 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

I have uncles that were in WWII. And my father 4F'ed out of Korea because of rheumatic fever. I r old.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 15 June 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

both grandfathers inherited businesses, both grandmothers suffered

one was a drunkard, spendthrift, firearms enthusiast, violence enthusiast, fan of country pursuits, raconteur, philanderer, avoider of debts and pathological slacker

the other one was considerably more unpleasant

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

m. grandfather was a clerk of some kind in the court system. my mom has called him a "magistrate" but i think she really means clerk.

m. grandmother was a teacher in a one-room schoolhouse.

p. grandfather--not entirely sure? my dad's family was historically carpenters, but i think my grandfather might have just made do? like, subsistence farmed, done a little carpentry here and there and bartered it for food and other goods. my dad has a huge extended family and they all lived together at that time so it's kind of hard to separate out individual occupations. and backwoods village in incredibly corrupt region=basically feudalism; not sure what the economy was even like.

m. grandmother--housewife, eight kids, living with her husband's family, can't even imagine.

horseshoe, Friday, 15 June 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

sorry that last one was p. grandmother. feel like rural kashmir in the early to mid 20th century kind of = appalachia

horseshoe, Friday, 15 June 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

it occurs to me that my dad never talked much about his dad's occupation, even though he told me that his dad was a great man, etc., maybe because he was made to feel ashamed of where he came from by his peers at school, medical school, etc. when he was growing up

horseshoe, Friday, 15 June 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

and his teachers for that matter

horseshoe, Friday, 15 June 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

p grandfather owned a bike store and later a bike wholesale business
p grandmother was a housewife

m grandfather ran a restaurant
m grandmother worked in same restaurant and later worked at a nursing home

Moodles, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

nakh`s irish heritage comes again to the fore

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

pretty sure drunk grandad was an irish nationalist if only to overcompensate for half his ancestry being english or german

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

mom's dad - field geologist in iran for BP subsidiary, chief consulting geologist for bechtel engineering during construction of karadj dam, professor of geotechnics at universities in san diego and southern louisiana

mom's mom - english major in college, became secretary and english translator. now works as a cafeteria lady.

dad's dad - worked as a middle manager and bureacrat for the national phone company in iran that ross perot set up, so i suppose he worked for ross perot. from the stories he tells it sounds like they basically just did paperwork until 11 am lunchtime, went home for two hours for lunch, then came back sat around and shot the shit for the rest of the day, sort of the teetotaler equivalent of the three-martini lunch.

dad's mom - also english major in college, also worked as secretary and translator. when came to america worked as a professional seamstress doing high-end alterations.

the late great, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

most impressed w/ mom's mom's sister - worked first as a therapist for marines suffering from PTSD, then worked as senior CPS psychologist for SD county. would ride along with sheriffs and swat team when they would bust down the doors to arrest people for drug crimes and violent crimes. her job was to take custody of any children and try to make the experience not too badly traumatizing (good luck) and then she would follow the children through the foster care system until the age of emancipation as their therapist.

the late great, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

maternal grandmother - worked in an office at Sears Roebuck.
maternal grandmother - Army dude.

paternal grandmother - nurse.
paternal grandfather - odd jobs - delivered milk, delivered beer (sometimes the beer delivered him), ran a gas station. Retired from the U.S. Postal Service.

Supposedly I've got a great-great grandfather who was sheriff of Shelby County, Tenn., but Lord knows how to look that one up for sure.

pplains, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

My maternal grandparents ran a farm. They both died before my mother was 20.

My paternal grandfather was a publican/undertakers who, judging by a photo of him I saw recently, also enjoyed a little crossdressing on the side. My paternal grandmother ran the pub with him and raised eleven children along the way. She's the only one still living.

gyac, Friday, 15 June 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

paternal grandfather
maternal grandfather

paternal grandmother was a homemaker, in the parlance of her times, and died in 1964, before I was born. Here she is kicking up her heels on New Year's Eve in 1961 (she is in the middle, in black w/glasses)
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6022/5885234179_971a803be7_z.jpg

maternal grandmother was a social worker, lived to 101 and only recently passed away.

a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

maternal gf - WW2 veteran, later spent 30+ years working in "the plant" (Dow Chemical)
paternal gf - WW2 veteran, later spent 25+ years working in "the plant" (Edwards Electronics)
maternal gm - housewife
paternal gm - housewife

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

Also, interestingly, maternal grandparents married a pair of siblings - ie. two Brown brothers married two Haley sisters. And Grandpa Brown was a friend of James "Scotty" Doohan.

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

paternal grandfather - coal miner
paternal grandmother - schoolteacher

double-paternal great-aunt - farmer, flew (non-combat) planes during ww2

paternal/maternal great-uncle - infantry in ww1

maternal grandfather - scientist at dupont; went to germany at the end of the war to assess the nazis' scientific advances
maternal grandmother - studied fashion design, but her true calling involved gin

mookieproof, Friday, 15 June 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

My paternal grandfather was a publican/undertakers who, judging by a photo of him I saw recently, also enjoyed a little crossdressing on the side.

I still want to go know what was going in in that photo but i have no idea how to raise it with your father.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

maternal grandma - blow jobs
paternal grandma - hand jobs
maternal grandpa - rim jobs
paternal grandpa - unemployed

the late great, Friday, 15 June 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

Married siblings have the cutest back stories (in my head).

What is a double paternal? You have two dads with the same sister?

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

just an awkward way of saying my paternal grandfather's sister

mookieproof, Friday, 15 June 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

Double paternal
What does it mean

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

Found a picture of my dad's father (and that side of the family)

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2421/3860576983_9f5ab65367_z.jpg

(grandfather at top. grandmother is holding my Uncle Ben. My dad is on the bottom-left. This picture was taken in 1919 when my dad was 4 years old). Both of my dad's parents had passed away long before I was born.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 16 June 2012 01:27 (thirteen years ago)

What's cool is that botanists are still referencing my grandfather's work even a 100 years later... Every so often I'll search and find a reference to his work on potato diseases or bean anthracnose. My favorite title of all of his books is "Observations On The Pathological Morphology Of Stinking Smut Of Wheat."

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 16 June 2012 01:40 (thirteen years ago)

That's a great photo!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 16 June 2012 02:01 (thirteen years ago)

paternal gf was a bridgeworker (spans, not teeth) -- and a WWI veteran

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 16 June 2012 02:05 (thirteen years ago)

Observations On The Pathological Morphology Of Stinking Smut Of Wheat
This could be a NWW album

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Saturday, 16 June 2012 02:06 (thirteen years ago)

Paternal grandfather: owned a bar
Paternal grandmother: homemaker

Maternal grandfather: psychologist
Maternal grandmother: psychologist (both for the military/government)

Want to say one generation before that everyone washed clothes.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 June 2012 04:25 (thirteen years ago)

dug up more pics from that photo shoot + another one

mmmm foods
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7278/7417618212_dd0fcdaa78_c.jpg

dining room
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7259/7417617946_ab23bcf279_c.jpg

on the beach
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7114/7417618348_db75cd32ac_z.jpg

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 22 June 2012 02:41 (thirteen years ago)

Those are dreamy!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 22 June 2012 03:15 (thirteen years ago)

Grandma made Grandpa sit on the floor?
What does he have behind his back?
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5465/7417618044_ac7391676c.jpg

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

grandfathers: chemist, mechanic
grandmothers: typist, secretary

carly rae (flopson), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

secretary gm had the second highest grades/entrance exam score in the province when she applied to med school but was denied because of sexism

carly rae (flopson), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

these old pictures are fantastic. wish i had access to some of my own here. pls keep them coming

paternal grandfather: farmer, wwII marine
paternal grandmother: odd jobs here and there, not sure

maternal grandfather: owned the local shoe store. sold some real estate?
maternal grandmother: stay at home mom until the kids were grown up. got a job as a secretary and worked her way up to vice president (briefly) of #&R B10ck

arby's, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

Paternal Grandfather: Quantity Surveyor, rugby internationalist (when it was an amateur game)
Paternal Grandmother: Old Money Edinburgh Matriarch
Maternal Grandfather: Merchant seaman (lots of stories about Cuban brothels), crofter
Maternal Grandmother: District nurse (there is an entire generation of people in the village that she delivered).

calumerio, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

My grandfather (the banker) would never talk about his time in WWII, either. I heard one pretty gruesome second-hand story from my grandmother about being stuck in an enclosed space with some dead bodies for longer than one might prefer, and my mom took him to see Saving Private Ryan and he cried in the theater, and that's all I knew.

When I was proof reading his eulogy that my mom wrote, I learned he had been in the 1st Infantry Division, landed on Omaha Beach, and earned a Medal of Honor for staying awake for a truly ungodly length of time to non-stop operate a radio. He would never talk about any of it.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

Ack thinking about my 70-something grandfather crying while watching Saving Private Ryan after years of silence about the war is making me a little verklempt. Also I miss that guy a lot.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

aww man :(

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

that is super raw, carl

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

my grandpa talked about WWII a fair amount, but only about his buddies there, the good times they had on the ship between what what probably some horrifying stuff. one of the only photos i'd seen from his WWII days everyone looked grim and awful, except for him, hat crooked and making some silly face at the camera. he liked to show us the shrapnel still in his arm and brag about how he could dive off one end of the ship and swim underneath it to the other side.

arby's, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

pretty gruesome second-hand story from my grandmother about being stuck in an enclosed space w--COVERING MY EARS AND EYES

arby's, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

brag about how he could dive off one end of the ship and swim underneath it to the other side.

I love this.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

cool thread!
one grandpa was a pilot for pan-am.
other grandpa was a pediatrician.
i wish i had known them better, they probably had good stories.

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

my pictured grandma wasn't in any war, but she also refused to talk to me. i think it's just something grandparents do? i would ask questions and questions about the way things were but she just never wanted to tell me anything.

i have a set of photos of the other set of grandparents too, but they are more fraught (and one is still alive) so imma hold off on those

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

my grandma would talk to us a LOT, but it became clear from an early age that she had kind of soap opera-fied a lot of events. when talking about my dad's first wife, she was always like, "one day she just walked out and no one ever saw her again" and my dad would later tell us that he had lunch with her the week before.

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)

paternal grandfather: farmer in later life but I don't know before that
paternal grandmother: nurse
also they are my father's adoptive parents.
I've known his birth mother for longer than I knew my grandmother, but I still to this day don't know her backstory or how she came to have my Dad. She was related to Dad's adoptive parents, I believe a cousin or something like that, and that Dad's birth father might have been a returned soldier though I have NO idea.

Maternal grandfather: worked in concrete I believe, building local bridges. Had his own business before the war doing this. A lot of them are still standing, which is p cool.
Served in WWII as a driver, was shipped to Singapore and was captured as a POW during the fall. Spent the rest of the war in a POW camp in Burma. Worked on a section of the Burmese railway until he fell ill with Beri Beri and remained in the infirmary til the close of the war. He lived for another 30 years after that but he died right before I was born so I never got to talk to him about any of what he went through. Mum said he never talked about it. but we found out later that he kept a sort of diary of his time in the POW camp, and we have that along with some of his belongings from the war. that's about as close as I've gotten to realy knowing him.

Maternal grandmother: left school at 16, worked as a post office clerk and a telephonist that I know of. During the war she worked at an artillery factory in Sunshine just outside Melbourne. We have newspaper clippings of the notices she posted in the local papers requesting information on the whereabouts of my grandfather, and we have a letter from a returned soldier who told her he had seen my Grandad in the Burma camp in the infirmary, and that he was still alive.
After grandad returned home, she worked mainly as a housewife, but was heavily involved with Legacy (a charity for the families of deceased servicemen), as well as a local orphanage and quite a few sporting organizations like the loca tennis club, as well as church fundraising.

It's funny, even though Nan didn't have a 'job', I always remember her being busy. She died when I was 16, so by the time I was old enough to know, intellecutally & emotionally what my Grandad had lived through, she wasn't around for me to talk about it with her. And it's sad, because she would talk to me about pretty much anything, and told me lots of stories about her life so I know I would have learned a lot about Grandad from her.

I really miss her.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

maternal grandfather: fireman
maternal grandmother: alcoholic

paternal grandfather: he did "tool and die" in factories, first in Germany, then in Detroit and finally in Connecticut. Also worked as a chauffeur during the depression.
maternal grandmother: homemaker, but worked as a cook during the depression, I think for the same rich people my grandfather chauffeured for

interesting things about my grandparents:

maternal grandmother's father was apparently an extremely wealthy industrialist of some sort, but he disowned her for some reason and I think she always hated my grandfather for not being rich. perhaps this partly led to the alcoholism.

my paternal grandfather died in the 60s and my paternal grandmother later married an ex-jesuit priest (who, from what I gather, basically left the priesthood because my grandma was too foxy), but he then died less than a year after they got married.

i invented steampunk (askance johnson), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

strangely I have no idea if either of my grandfathers were ever in WW II or any other war really

i invented steampunk (askance johnson), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

my maternal grandfather was asst secretary for labor
my maternal grandmother was a librarian

i dont really know what my other grandparents did, cocktail parties i guess

max, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

Paternal Grandfather - Worked for the Gas Company, painted a lot in his off-time
Paternal Grandmother - Worked for MGM as a producer's assistant

Enatic Grandfather - Federal Judge
Enatic Grandmother - Worked for the State of CA but I don't remember exactly what

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

My maternal grandfather has a wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pallett

He was the son of a grocer, friends with Donald Sutherland and very popular in his riding. He resigned from Parliament in disgrace, though, after accusations of cronyism surfaced regarding the construction of YYZ airport. He also played a role in the cancellation of the Avro Arrow's development, and was depicted as an antagonist in a documentary.

Call me Ishmael (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

My paternal grandfather dug up the hills of Devonshire for coal, then he had a change of heart, and built a kiln and sponsored local potters.

My maternal grandmother was briefly a member of the chorus of the Canadian Opera Company; I have no idea what my paternal grandmother did but she was an imposing figure who drank gin and smoked cigarettes and had a garden in rural Northumberland.

Call me Ishmael (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

I'm a bit ashamed that I don't know all the answers to this. Questions to ask next time I'm home. My maternal grandmother was a ropeworker and my paternal grandmother was a french polisher. Good grandparent jobs, both of them.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

maternal grandfather: WWII, worked for the VA after that
maternal grandmother: nurse, then full time irish catholic baby machine.

paternal grandfather: jazz guitarist
paternal grandmother: big band singer, eventually nurse

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

paternal grandfather: secondary school teacher
paternal grandmother: housewife, mother, IRA sympathiser

maternal grandfather: civil engineer
maternal grandmother: housewife, mother

Early-20th-century small-town Ireland not a place of great opportunity for women, I think. I never met either of my maternal grandparents and I really know very little about them, might ask some questions next time I'm home.

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

One odd side-effect from having older parents (my dad was 50 when I was born) is that whenever I see "WWII" in conjunction with someone's grandfather I keep thinking of my dad (who was in the Merchant Marines during the early Battle Of The Atlantic days) and suddenly feel older than I am.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

White grandfather was a cabinet maker.
Not 100% sure about black one but I think either him or his wife had a shop in the Kenyan village my dad grew up in. Never met him , think I did meet her.

Lived with white one for a few years as a child. Or maybe more my family did.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

Paternal grandfather: farmer
Maternal grandfather: university professor

Both grandmothers were housewives, though I seem to recall my maternal grandmother taught school for a few years.

Brad C., Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

maternal grandfather: returned from ww2 with no real work history, and wound up owning a steel mill. some real horatio alger shit, at least until the steel market collapsed in this country. which explains to some extent was how i was born into a working poor household while my mom grew up wearing kiddie fur coats. i dont think my grandfather's heroic boozing really helped with the business stuff either, mind you.

maternal grandmother: betty draper, essentially, until aforementioned collapse of business, after whic she worked in a department store.

paternal grandfather: fuck if i know. took off when my dad was a kid.

paternal grandmother: literal shut-in.

Strongo is basically Sally and Glen's son

Alba, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

five months pass...

at my parents' for christmas and my (english) mom who grew up in colonial singapore visited england the other month for first time in many years and i have pictures of (pictures of) my maternal grandparents now, plus i have been checking w her re: details, so

grandfather was royal navy ww2, and then a writer of high-seas-adventure novels and a history of singapore, and also was a kind of impresario (such that my dad who is from ohio and was putting up and taking down tents for a traveling production of peter pan met my mom cuz her dad was producing its singaporean stop), while

grandmother (chic as fukk there imho) was a textbook author and gallery owner who died in a car crash decades before i was born that also killed my mom's older sister but which my mom survived. eventually my grandfather remarried and moved back to oxford and by then i don't think there was very much money anymore. met him a few times when i was young; he looked like cuba-era hemingway and i made a "radio drama" where he voiced a wizard.

i don't have pictures handy of my dad's parents but grandfather returned from the war and bought/ran a bar in shelby, ohio; grandmother was i think a housewife but my dad talks about her very little. i met her as a little kid, but never him; he died when my dad was in his 20s. none of these people survived long enough for me to get a clue about asking them to tell me stuff, which i feel p dumb about; but they were always very far away and i only occasionally saw the two i met.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 24 December 2012 06:17 (thirteen years ago)

Farmers/

your damn bass clarinet (Eazy), Monday, 24 December 2012 06:23 (thirteen years ago)

Played the organ on the radio, was apparantly a very big deal.

Three Word Username, Monday, 24 December 2012 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

Maternal grandfather - Fisherman. Died 1965, before I was born
Maternal grandmother - Housewife

Paternal grandfather - Butcher. Died 1994, his funeral was the day my son was born so didn't go to it.
Paternal grandmother - Housewife. Died 1991.

He appeared in the October 1952 edition of National Geographic magazine on an article on Holy Island, Northumberland.

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i329/yorkshiresky/IMG244.jpg?t=1356355303

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Monday, 24 December 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

He was itinerant in more ways than one as he divorced my grandmother in the late 50s and moved in with a woman who was about 20 years younger than him. In late 1950s Berwick that just wasn't the done thing and caused a lot of friction within the family at the time.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Monday, 24 December 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

psychologist
geologist
psychologist
cement salesman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW7Z20fJH6I (lag∞n), Monday, 24 December 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

opera singer
forest ranger

iatee, Monday, 24 December 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

My gran worked at Linotype from the age of 15 until 60. I find this incredible.

djh, Monday, 24 December 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

Great-great grandfather - drove a streetcar
Great-grandfather - drove a truck
Grandfather - drove delivery trucks, mail vehicles
Father - Real estate sales, delivery

I'm the first one stuck in an office. At least now I know where my desire to be a trucker has always come from.

pplains, Monday, 24 December 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

Grandma: Doughnut shop during the war, GM after

Grandpa: Sailor during the war, fireman after, installed water heaters and sump pumps after smoke inhalation during rescues caused him to lose a bit of lung and retire.

"It's the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Drunk!" (kingfish), Monday, 24 December 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

six months pass...

I found out during my parents' visit last week that my paternal great-grandmother (who was a lifelong liberal and lived on the gulf coast of FL) was still mowing her own lawn at 87, and one day on her walk to the market got run over by a truck. She was hit from behind so she probably had no idea what happened. Not a terrible way to go, but I hope it doesn't run in the family.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 8 July 2013 14:22 (twelve years ago)

Me in 2007:

Paternal GF: no idea, don't think he had a job since I was born

Found out at his funeral last year the reason for this was he got PTSD after serving in the Malayan Emergency as a 20-ish year old. Which apparently was why he didn't turn up to my wedding or see us ever. Although, as my dad said, he could make it out to the pub alright.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 8 July 2013 16:18 (twelve years ago)

maternal GF: barber/barbershop owner
maternal GM: homemaker, volunteer pollster
paternal GF: bartender/waiter
paternal GM: nurse

I also had a paternal step-grandfather but I have no idea what he did besides drink; I believe my paternal step-grandmother was also a homemaker but I'm not 100% sure

big black nemesis, Puya chilensis (DJP), Monday, 8 July 2013 16:36 (twelve years ago)


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